The Glenn Beck Program - Russia Invaded Ukraine： What It All Means ｜ Guests： Benjamin Teitelbaum & Rep. Mark Green ｜ 2⧸24⧸22

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00:00:47.800 All right, we begin with Putin and Ukraine next.

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00:02:04.600 Ukraine, Vladimir Putin, and what it means to you in 60 seconds.

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00:03:26.200 Today is one of those days where we're going to try to figure out what's going on together.

00:03:31.980 Some things really bother me, don't seem right.

00:03:35.340 Let me just start with what happened at 5.50 a.m. Thursday morning, Russia time.

00:03:44.000 Putin was wearing the same suit and the same red tie that he wore on Monday as he took to the airwaves and warned President Biden and NATO not to intervene in Ukraine.

00:03:59.320 He said his plans, interesting choice of words, were to denazify Ukraine.

00:04:07.280 He continued to stick to his factually inaccurate version of Ukraine's history, saying essentially that Ukraine was always part of Russia.

00:04:17.500 His attempts here in the last few days to rewrite history at his convenience seemed to me to be something that we talked about on yesterday's program, a very calculated plan in his own home country of working towards capital T traditionalism. 0.62

00:04:42.460 If we have time, we'll get into that again today.

00:04:45.080 If you don't know what it is, listen to yesterday's podcast.

00:04:48.560 We went deep into it.

00:04:50.940 He was misleading everybody, you know, saying that he's not going to do any of these things.

00:04:57.220 Within hours of the speech, the interior ministry of Ukraine said that there had been hundreds of casualties.

00:05:05.300 CNN reported, despite Russia insisting early that they were only attacking military installations and were voting populated areas.

00:05:13.960 That's not true.

00:05:15.440 President Biden responded to Putin's attack last night, saying the prayers of the entire world are with the people of Ukraine as they suffer an unprovoked and unjustified attack by Russian military forces.

00:05:30.940 There is this is real trouble and there's some things that just don't make sense.

00:05:36.820 I'm going to give you just a couple of more pieces of the news, and then we're going to start talking to some experts today on what they think this this means.

00:05:46.180 Our Dow.

00:05:47.760 Let me look at our futures.

00:05:49.380 Our Dow futures are down about 800 points.

00:05:53.260 I know when you're talking about the loss of life, that does seem like something you should worry about.

00:06:01.240 But the world is about to change if this continues.

00:06:05.140 The Dow is down 770 points right now.

00:06:10.960 Oil is up to almost $100 a barrel.

00:06:16.500 Your stock markets all around the world are going through the floor.

00:06:23.320 There's no place worse than in Russia.

00:06:27.100 Russia, their stock market was cut in half.

00:06:30.240 And you have to ask yourself, how is he going to benefit from this?

00:06:37.360 What is the real game?

00:06:39.500 We'll get to that here in in just a little while.

00:06:42.840 Meanwhile, most Americans want nothing to do with it.

00:06:46.320 Most Americans are saying we're not going in for Ukraine.

00:06:50.120 I don't think we should either, but we should support Ukraine.

00:06:55.620 And we should also call out the devil that Putin is.

00:06:58.940 I'm tired of people making excuses for Putin.

00:07:04.140 What he is saying is not true.

00:07:06.920 Let's not be Neville Chamberlain.

00:07:09.400 However, that doesn't mean we go and fight it.

00:07:12.520 It means we just call a spade a spade.

00:07:16.900 Ukraine is absolutely corrupt.

00:07:20.080 We know just if you paid attention to any of our specials on Ukraine with the Biden people and his son and everybody else that was in Ukraine.

00:07:30.000 We have under the under the guiding hand of Barack Obama, we have meddled in Ukraine and just it's it's horrible, horrible corruption.

00:07:43.680 What we have been involved in in Ukraine.

00:07:48.360 We shouldn't have been there in the first place.

00:07:50.840 We should mind our own business on that.

00:07:52.840 That's not an isolationist thing.

00:07:54.640 That's a let's get out of everybody else's business, please, especially when that business is corrupt.

00:08:01.520 They are corrupt, but they are a democratic society and they do not want to go back to Russia.

00:08:08.240 Anybody who says that, I just would remind you, look up the word holodomor.

00:08:14.460 They know what happens when Russia comes in to their place and they are not interested in going back. 1.00

00:08:24.640 The gold is up and the Chinese, the Chinese media has leaked censoring rules on Ukraine.

00:08:34.240 The Chinese news organization, they say accidentally leaked.

00:08:38.760 I don't think so.

00:08:39.520 It's censorship plans regarding Russia's invasion into Ukraine.

00:08:43.040 The organization said it needed to be sensitive on the matter because it would need Russia's support when we wrestle with America to solve the Taiwan issue once and for all.

00:08:57.480 I do not believe that that was a mistake and nobody's going to be disappeared on that little mistake.

00:09:04.900 They're sending America a message.

00:09:07.620 I want to bring in Jason Buttrell, who is with us now.

00:09:11.640 Hi, Jason.

00:09:13.160 Hi, Glenn.

00:09:16.080 You and I have been talking about this for a long time.

00:09:20.000 We have spent a year on Ukraine, and this takes both of us by surprise.

00:09:26.760 I have to hand it to the intelligence community, although I don't feel comfortable.

00:09:32.800 Something's not right here.

00:09:34.760 But the intelligence community and the Biden administration said this is what he was going to do, and he's done it.

00:09:43.600 Yeah, I agree.

00:09:44.480 It's really crazy because when you study geopolitics, you learn to analyze and look at these things from that lens.

00:09:52.580 You're taught that geopolitics is a study of maps.

00:09:55.140 It's demographics.

00:09:55.920 It's numbers.

00:09:56.840 It's interests, hard-line interests.

00:10:00.500 And when someone starts acting emotionally, like Putin has been doing over the past year plus, you learn to kind of put that away and say,

00:10:08.720 okay, well, he's obviously after something else, which I still think there's something else involved, just like you said.

00:10:14.620 So when the Biden administration was kind of saying, you know, now this is happening, full-scale invasion, all that, I didn't believe it was happening.

00:10:21.880 I didn't.

00:10:22.260 I was looking for something behind what was going on because this all seemed so irrational.

00:10:27.280 But I think the intelligence community was spot on.

00:10:30.460 I've seen reports that it actually, you know, the intelligence community coming out and saying that false flag attacks would happen.

00:10:36.120 That would be the preempt to them doing a full-on invasion.

00:10:39.740 I wasn't buying it.

00:10:41.260 They were exactly right.

00:10:42.740 And the reports say that it actually delayed Putin's invasion by possibly even a week.

00:10:49.520 Like they wanted to do this last week and not this week.

00:10:52.540 So the intelligence community and the Biden administration were exactly right on this.

00:10:57.160 Now there's ways to criticize other things, which we can get to later, of what they've done.

00:11:01.620 But just a quick recap, the media started reporting last night that the invasion was going to commence around 4 a.m. Kiev time.

00:11:11.800 And pretty much that was spot on.

00:11:14.700 It happened around 4.10, 4.15 Kiev time.

00:11:19.860 And it's very, very conventional from what I've been noticing.

00:11:22.240 I've been following this all night.

00:11:23.640 This is not like Crimea in 2014 with unconventional warfare.

00:11:27.400 This is a very conventional invasion.

00:11:29.380 What we saw commencing around 4 a.m. Kiev time was airstrikes to target command and control systems.

00:11:36.340 That went as far as Kiev.

00:11:39.460 And it's a three-pronged attack coming from Belarus, coming from Crimea in the south, and coming from mainland Russia in the east.

00:11:46.380 Now we do not know how far they plan to push this.

00:11:49.880 But it is a conventional invasion.

00:11:52.700 It looks as if they will probably go further than just eastern Ukraine.

00:11:56.640 The question now is how far they will go and how far tensions will rise, especially with NATO gathering troops all along the border of Ukraine.

00:12:04.560 Okay, so it looks as though he was using conventional warfare to cut off the troops as they were kind of gathered at the borders of the two districts that President Putin said he was going to take.

00:12:25.720 They went behind those lines and kind of cut them off so they can't fall back to defend Kiev, correct?

00:12:35.180 Yes, that's correct, because they know that Ukraine's strategy here is they know they're going to get overwhelmed.

00:12:41.360 So their strategy is their mainline forces in the east guarding those two territories, as you said.

00:12:46.120 Their strategy is to do a tactical retreat back into the urban areas within Ukraine.

00:12:51.540 Then it turns into both a hybrid guerrilla warfare and heavy urban warfare in the large Ukrainian cities.

00:12:59.680 That is very, very bloody.

00:13:01.540 That is very, very dangerous for the Russian military as well as civilians, which Russia does not want to kill too many Ukrainian civilians,

00:13:09.520 because that is going to be very, very unpopular in mainland Russia.

00:13:14.080 But Ukraine's strategy here, as I said, is to get into the cities and turn this into an urban conflict and draw it out for as long as possible.

00:13:22.140 Russia wants to stop that, and that explains why they dropped in behind the troops there.

00:13:26.440 Can they take the whole country just by air and cutting it all off?

00:13:33.020 They absolutely can take the whole country in the short term.

00:13:37.000 It depends on how effective their air assets are, and that's what we're seeing right now.

00:13:40.500 We're seeing the bomb from the air.

00:13:43.460 We're seeing cruise missile strikes.

00:13:45.100 So cutting off command and control all over the country and crippling Ukraine so they can eventually roll into the capital. 1.00

00:13:52.000 That will happen, is my guess, unless somebody else intervenes, which I kind of highly doubt.

00:13:57.740 But a short-term victory is really all Russia can hope for here. 0.64

00:14:01.800 And that's another puzzling thing, because I can't imagine they think they win in the long term.

00:14:06.960 In the long term, it's going to be too damaging financially and politically for Russia.

00:14:12.700 So it's catastrophic in the short term.

00:14:15.900 In the long term, I don't see how they win this unless there's some other grander strategy that we just don't know about,

00:14:22.700 which could even be scarier, actually.

00:14:24.040 Yeah, I think so, too.

00:14:27.240 All right, let me take one minute break, and then we'll come back and discuss this some more,

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00:15:38.180 So, we have some puzzling things.

00:15:50.200 First of all, Putin said he wants to denazify Ukraine.

00:15:56.780 Do you have any idea what that's about?

00:16:00.160 Same rhetoric he's been using since 2014.

00:16:02.660 And that's directed more at the people of Russia, not anybody else in the world or Ukraine.

00:16:10.240 But he's been using that World War II, you know, sentiment to get public support to do what he's now doing.

00:16:17.820 But that's going to continue.

00:16:19.880 And no doubt, he's going to provide some air quote evidence, you know, that they're taking out some Nazis.

00:16:25.400 But he's drawing on World War II nationalism.

00:16:27.600 He said that there has been an ongoing genocide in Ukraine that he's trying to stop.

00:16:36.360 I mean, this is crazy.

00:16:40.740 And that's what makes it so hard for me when I was looking at this before to really think that he was going to go through with this.

00:16:48.540 Because usually Putin is not a crazy guy.

00:16:51.460 I mean, maybe now.

00:16:52.460 But in the past, he's not been.

00:16:54.780 He's been very cold, calculating.

00:16:57.380 Geopolitics and interest was always forefront in his mind.

00:17:01.520 He's not a psychopath.

00:17:05.600 I mean, well, he might be.

00:17:06.720 Right.

00:17:06.900 But he doesn't.

00:17:09.480 He's not somebody driven by rage.

00:17:12.640 He is cold and calculating.

00:17:15.120 And when he I mean, he's out and out evil.

00:17:19.820 He is a bloodthirsty killer who has spent a lifetime killing people.

00:17:26.080 But he's logical in it.

00:17:28.820 He's very calculated in it.

00:17:31.080 And the rhetoric.

00:17:32.740 I mean, I think the the Nazi stuff, the religious stuff, that's all that's that's Dugan kind of language.

00:17:41.440 Yeah, and and that and it's a very, very powerful weapon for Russians, because they're they're very much willing to suffer and to, you know, to to basically take it on the chin if they have to. 0.94

00:17:57.220 If that means that their country, you know, will eventually reign supreme.

00:18:00.520 It's interesting if you go and take a if you take a tour of the Kremlin and Red Square in Russia, which I've done a couple of times, you'll be very surprised to see that in a Soviet, you know, the former Soviet Union, the capital in the Red Square, probably like 80 percent churches.

00:18:17.560 There's multiple churches.

00:18:19.420 They weren't religious during the Soviet Union, but historically during the Russian Empire, they were very religious.

00:18:25.140 This orthodoxy is very, very pivotal to Russian nationalism.

00:18:28.500 And even the Soviets would turn that up when they needed to. 0.58

00:18:32.060 But that's exactly what Putin has done in the vein of Alexander Dugan, especially in that speech that he gave, you know, last week.

00:18:39.840 That was very, very telling to a lot of us that have been looking at this, people like you and me, Glenn, that, OK, now we know exactly what he's doing.

00:18:49.100 He's turning up that dial of nationalism to justify doing, you know, what he's doing and possibly even more, which is scary.

00:18:57.320 OK, would you would you agree with me?

00:19:00.080 And I'd like you to explore this a bit.

00:19:04.040 There is no real obvious win for Putin.

00:19:08.260 His stock market has crashed.

00:19:11.260 This is going to be horrible.

00:19:13.140 They are in the oil business.

00:19:15.580 They just made a deal with China, but that's years down the road.

00:19:19.860 They're going to shut down all of the oil exports into any Western country because of this.

00:19:27.060 So his oil is going to crash, which funds his government and his country.

00:19:32.760 The stock market is down.

00:19:34.600 Business is going to be cut off.

00:19:36.980 It's already a shambles in Russia.

00:19:39.940 What does he have to gain here?

00:19:42.160 Can you think of anything that he has to gain?

00:19:45.160 I've always thought from the beginning of this, especially when I didn't think that invasion was happening.

00:19:51.440 I thought that what he was really doing was playing a game to divide and conquer NATO.

00:19:56.120 That's what I thought.

00:19:57.080 And I still think that's a major part of his plan.

00:19:59.760 Taking Ukraine is also very, very important strategically for Russia to get strategic depth.

00:20:05.020 It's always been their plan was to, you know, have some buffer.

00:20:08.620 So the warm water capital of Moscow.

00:20:10.300 Yeah, but also the warm water port.

00:20:14.220 Exactly.

00:20:15.060 Yeah.

00:20:15.700 When he's talking about the heart of Russia, that's true, but I don't really think that really guides him.

00:20:22.260 I think that's just the excuse he uses to get support from home.

00:20:27.240 But I think that it's very irritating.

00:20:31.720 I think that we're talking about Putin is not a psychopath.

00:20:34.940 I think he is very spiteful.

00:20:36.800 I think that the Russian election interference, which I don't think did anything.

00:20:40.840 I don't want to say that it did.

00:20:42.500 But their election interference, I think, was a direct response to Hillary Clinton and what they did to his election. 0.97

00:20:46.920 I think that a lot of what we're doing now, I think, was a direct response to how the Obama administration and all his foreign policy elite handled 2014 Ukrainian revolution.

00:20:58.300 I think he responds to these people, you know, directly in kind.

00:21:01.680 That's also a reason why he was willing, I think, to back off of this when Trump was there, because he knew that that was not how they operated.

00:21:07.880 And they weren't the ones directly responsible for what happened.

00:21:10.340 And I also think that it's ridiculous that NATO wouldn't respond, wouldn't say, hey, look, we're not going to admit Ukraine into NATO.

00:21:21.580 Why couldn't they say that?

00:21:22.840 NATO was irrelevant.

00:21:24.020 And the irony of this is now that Putin responding to that is making NATO relevant again.

00:21:29.660 So I think that eventually his goal is to play the long game.

00:21:33.580 Eventually there's going to be NATO countries like Germany's not going to want to attack.

00:21:37.120 They're not going to want to send troops.

00:21:38.380 That's going to cause a divide in NATO.

00:21:40.340 That's going to cause a divide between the U.K. and France.

00:21:43.500 They're not going to want to attack either.

00:21:45.040 And eventually this will play out to where NATO will do exactly what he said was what he wanted.

00:21:49.840 He wanted NATO to do a withdrawal.

00:21:51.780 That benefits China and everybody else that's on Russia's side.

00:21:55.840 So his ultimate goal is the long game, divide NATO, possibly even the end of NATO, and to get strategic depth with Ukraine.

00:22:04.360 Okay.

00:22:05.000 Thank you very much, Jason.

00:22:06.360 I appreciate it.

00:22:07.300 I'm going to give you another perspective when we come back because I just don't think – I mean, I agreed with he's trying to break up NATO, but not anymore.

00:22:19.700 This is costing him too high of a price at home.

00:22:22.500 What could he be angling for?

00:22:25.460 I'll throw a couple of ideas your way next.

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00:23:58.000 So, Vladimir Putin has invaded into Ukraine, and not just those two territories.

00:24:13.560 He's going, it seems, all the way to Kiev, and he is taking out the military.

00:24:20.260 He's talking about a denazification of Ukraine.

00:24:26.560 His game here is extraordinarily risky for him.

00:24:33.260 Imagine if the United States was told, none of your cars, none of your technology,

00:24:40.200 and the world's not going to buy any more of your wheat and corn.

00:24:43.760 That would be a very bad thing quickly in the United States.

00:24:48.860 Last night, their stock market fell 50%.

00:24:52.440 Russia is already in shambles, and the oil is being turned off.

00:24:59.000 The sales of Russian oil being turned off now by the West.

00:25:03.800 This is going to be a very high price.

00:25:06.460 I can't, I mean, if he thinks he's going to win quickly, maybe, but it's a very big risk.

00:25:15.600 I wanted to bring the guest we had on yesterday that was talking about the war for eternity,

00:25:21.360 and Alexander Dugan, somebody we've talked about on this program before,

00:25:27.240 a very, very, very evil guy in Russia that Putin has listened to in the past, 0.51

00:25:34.300 helped put his Crimean strategy together, and he's using the same kind of language today.

00:25:42.260 Welcome back, Ben.

00:25:43.320 How are you?

00:25:44.740 It's great to be with you, Glenn.

00:25:46.880 So thanks for joining on such short notice.

00:25:49.840 There's the denazification of Ukraine, and he's talking about there's a genocide that's been going on in Ukraine.

00:25:59.440 What do you think that's about?

00:26:01.080 Does that fit the pattern of the fourth political theory at all?

00:26:06.320 Well, it's Putin's way of framing himself as, you know, not being on those extremes, on those political extremes.

00:26:13.620 In the eastern part of the country, when Russia moved in, when we had the breakaway region, when we had the chaos in 2014,

00:26:21.680 you did get this kind of vacuum, this political power vacuum, and there were a few battalions of extremists

00:26:30.500 identifying as Nazis or National Socialists or white nationalists or something.

00:26:35.580 Very few of them, but they did exist, and they were typically, most of them, fighting on the side of Ukraine.

00:26:44.100 Against Russia, which they saw as an imperialist force.

00:26:47.700 It's the sort of thing, though, that for quite some time, Russia, which has been the expansionist authoritarian force in that region,

00:26:56.160 has used as a justification, a sort of rhetorical justification.

00:26:59.980 And it's important, of course, to Russian contemporary identity to recall the fact that it was one of the partners that defeated Hitler in World War II,

00:27:08.880 and therefore it's an anti-fascist cause in the world.

00:27:12.880 And that's being instrumentalized here, but it's, I mean, Zelensky's Jewish, isn't he?

00:27:20.340 It's a one-game.

00:27:22.040 I think so.

00:27:23.940 Yeah.

00:27:25.060 But I think he's Jewish, but didn't he reject his Judaism? 0.86

00:27:30.080 Yes, yes.

00:27:31.180 But ethnically, right?

00:27:32.720 I know he's not a practicing Jew.

00:27:35.580 Right, okay.

00:27:36.020 And that's not just, there's a lot of anti-Semitism in Ukraine and whatnot, but that's, he's not a Nazi.

00:27:43.360 And despite all the very many problems that there are in Ukraine in terms of corruption,

00:27:49.740 to say that he's going in to denazify the country is really a ploy.

00:27:55.860 So may I just go out on the deep end here and see if you can throw me a life preserver?

00:28:02.160 Because I can't figure out, if I'm Putin, I'm very calculated, I'm a bloodthirsty, you know, cold-blooded killer,

00:28:13.340 and I know what I want, but I'm not stupid.

00:28:18.080 He's not a stupid guy by any stretch of the imagination.

00:28:21.380 There is such a high price to pay for this that I'm wondering his motivation.

00:28:28.340 And this is where I jump into the deep end of the pool.

00:28:32.620 Do you think, because I can't figure his motivation out other than the typical,

00:28:37.720 I want a warm water port, and, you know, I want to be able to grab Ukraine for national pride, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.83

00:28:47.300 But is it possible that this is just part of a plan of chaos,

00:28:54.220 seeing that the West is so weak right now, especially the United States,

00:29:00.020 that he thinks that he can destabilize the West enough with these moves

00:29:05.380 that possibly the enemies of the West and the enemies of America could kick our legs out?

00:29:13.200 Potentially.

00:29:14.580 This is, so early on we were talking about this political operative-slash-philosopher,

00:29:21.900 Alexander Dugan.

00:29:23.640 One of the things that he's been doing in Europe for years, for decades now,

00:29:27.940 has been trying to make the populist nationalist parties in Europe pro-Russian.

00:29:36.900 It, you know, is an easier lift in some places than elsewhere.

00:29:40.100 But the reason why that was an official Russian foreign policy was that he believed that isolated,

00:29:47.760 siloed European states would be to the benefit of Russia. 0.71

00:29:53.880 If you didn't see a united West, the Atlantic, and then Europe as acting as a coherent whole,

00:30:02.060 that that, and it's not hard to understand, that that would make for a weaker opponent.

00:30:06.460 And you can see the same principle playing out here.

00:30:11.520 I don't think, there are very few people, I'm not an expert, of course, on military strategy,

00:30:16.480 but it doesn't seem like Putin has any plans or perhaps even the ability to destroy and occupy

00:30:23.400 and rebuild Ukraine.

00:30:24.620 I think we're probably looking at some sort of partition followed by, you know, threats

00:30:30.560 and a puppet government, but an incredibly unstable situation there.

00:30:36.320 And that insecurity, that instability is to the benefit of Russia, 0.98

00:30:40.840 that rather than strong, whole, united actors that can coordinate with one another.

00:30:46.860 Sure. So that's what he's going for.

00:30:49.820 It's, yes, he appears, he's very smart.

00:30:52.160 I think it's worth noting as well, though, that his actions are available to him because

00:30:58.580 he's not running the world at this point.

00:31:01.900 He's an antagonist, a rouser.

00:31:04.540 Right.

00:31:04.760 And this is, it's almost like comparing parents to their teenage children or something.

00:31:10.500 It's very easy to antagonize and disturb and destruct because you are not in power.

00:31:16.380 That doesn't make it not serious, but sometimes I feel we give them too much credit.

00:31:20.120 There is a weird line that makes me very uncomfortable of people who are cheering on, seemingly cheering

00:31:31.480 on Putin.

00:31:33.800 And while I don't want to go to war with Putin, I certainly don't cheer him on on this.

00:31:42.140 He is clearly the aggressor.

00:31:44.420 And the reason why I worry about this is because I think there are people who think we're going

00:31:48.920 to go to war and they're like, we shouldn't go to war on this.

00:31:53.160 But they, the way they cheer on Putin makes me nervous because of what you talked about

00:32:00.340 in Europe.

00:32:00.840 It is here too, this influence of Dugan, but most people don't know it.

00:32:06.960 Right.

00:32:07.920 Right.

00:32:08.360 And I, and again, what we were talking yesterday about some of the ideas, the ideology and

00:32:12.840 values that Putin says are animating his actions.

00:32:17.460 They can sound appealing to, uh, I think to, to conservatives, to Western, to modern conservatives.

00:32:26.200 Um, there are people who think that he is championing Christian nationalism, that he's going to unite

00:32:31.140 the Christian world.

00:32:32.520 And it's key to remember his conservatism, his, his Christianity, all of those things came

00:32:41.820 about after he was on a sort of merry-go-round of, of ideologies and profiles and identities.

00:32:48.780 And he settled on that one, uh, in part, because there were enough people in the, in the Russian

00:32:55.440 state apparatus who were thinking that way.

00:32:57.260 And Dugan has a role to play in that, uh, also because it, you needed some sort of ideological

00:33:02.820 jail to fill the void left by communism.

00:33:05.340 It couldn't just be a cult of personality.

00:33:07.140 It couldn't just be Putin himself.

00:33:08.660 Uh, so, you know, quote unquote, conservatism and Christian nationalism came in to fill that

00:33:15.220 void.

00:33:15.620 It also became a useful tool when reaching out to Europe because you could connect with

00:33:20.660 these parties that wanted, uh, a divided internally siloed Europe.

00:33:25.480 Um, but I, so hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on just a second.

00:33:28.980 This is where I think it gets really complex and confusing because there are people who,

00:33:34.980 uh, want out of the European union because they feel like they're losing their identity.

00:33:39.960 You know, when you can't fly the Swedish flag at home, you know, uh, you got to flag,

00:33:44.880 fly the European union flag.

00:33:47.000 I don't know.

00:33:47.640 That would bother me as a Swede.

00:33:49.320 It would bother me, uh, in England.

00:33:51.460 If I had to bow to some, a body of people I never elected, um, and they're telling me

00:33:58.020 that my country is not good, that's different than the white nationalist separatist, but

00:34:04.460 they're getting confused.

00:34:07.060 Absolutely.

00:34:07.720 That's what makes this tough is, I mean, the EU is, is a grossly anti-democratic institution

00:34:12.140 in my mind.

00:34:13.080 Lots of problems with it.

00:34:14.960 Um, the hostility for local identity and national identity is a huge problem, but

00:34:20.300 it's almost as if that natural critique, that natural criticism is just waiting there for

00:34:26.740 someone to take and exploit and, and instead create a continent and a territory where no

00:34:32.280 one can cooperate with one another.

00:34:33.780 Uh, and, and any force that is opposed to, to integration or, or coordination is, is going

00:34:40.480 to be celebrated.

00:34:41.500 That's, that's the problem.

00:34:42.780 That's why this anti-EU critique is, is important, um, for these, for these actors like Putin.

00:34:50.300 Ben, I, you're a, you're a professor, you've studied this, you do this for a living.

00:34:55.860 I'm, I, I'm, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, DJ.

00:34:59.740 I was a DJ most of my life.

00:35:02.180 Okay.

00:35:03.080 I mean, I'm not, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

00:35:06.840 Um, and even I can figure this out.

00:35:09.120 Why is it that you can't seem to get any politician on any side in any country that can separate

00:35:18.000 those people, uh, from the real Nazis, uh, to the people who are just really, for instance,

00:35:25.560 really good Americans or really good Canadians that just want an end of some of this nonsense.

00:35:31.640 How come no one can bridge that gap or see this?

00:35:37.440 It's, it'd be, it's, it's hard in our media climate.

00:35:40.060 It's, it's a real, I say, I don't agree with your first assessment.

00:35:42.840 That's, that's very nice to be, to be humble, Glenn, but I think, I think you're, uh, you're

00:35:46.420 definitely a smart guy and it's to your credit that you are interested in examining nuances.

00:35:52.820 The world, sometimes some, some, some things are simple.

00:35:55.580 Uh, there are either or questions in the world, but a lot, a lot of issues and a lot of topics

00:36:00.740 are, are very complex and it takes time.

00:36:03.960 It takes curiosity.

00:36:05.880 It takes motivation.

00:36:07.060 And I'm afraid that those resources are in short order.

00:36:12.300 Benjamin, thank you so much.

00:36:13.660 I, I really appreciate it.

00:36:14.940 And thank you for just grabbing on the phone here.

00:36:18.000 I appreciate it.

00:36:18.960 Benjamin Teitelbaum, he is the author of the book, War for Eternity.

00:36:23.180 Uh, it is a really important book and it does go into, uh, American politics.

00:36:29.160 Um, but it is something that every single person, especially on the right should read.

00:36:35.340 Um, uh, we'll get into that more probably next week.

00:36:39.120 It is very important that you understand what's going on.

00:36:42.460 There's a reason why people are being called Nazis.

00:36:45.300 Um, and there are these influences and that's not Nazi.

00:36:49.840 It is, it's a Russian, uh, influence that's happening all over the West, mainly in Europe,

00:36:55.800 but also here.

00:36:57.060 All right.

00:36:57.720 Back in just a minute.

00:36:59.660 It's another day that ends in Y.

00:37:01.660 So that of course means that it's another roll of the dice.

00:37:04.820 Um, you know, we, we could be, uh, in the midst of, uh, something crazy anytime soon.

00:37:11.660 Um, I mean, I really don't know, uh, when it's going to happen, but it is coming.

00:37:18.740 It is coming.

00:37:19.740 And every day I, I look at things like this invasion of Ukraine and my mind goes to all

00:37:25.640 of the things that could happen that I hope don't.

00:37:28.680 Um, but if you're not prepared, you need to be prepared now.

00:37:34.480 Um, gosh, the things that, let me just tell you the thing.

00:37:38.500 I do know fertilizer is up 300%.

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00:37:51.060 Um, you can't get fertilizer from Russia.

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00:38:33.060 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:38:56.500 Stu Bergeer is joining me from his house today in the ice storm.

00:38:59.780 Welcome, Stu.

00:39:00.220 Thanks, Glenn.

00:39:01.280 I think people generally understand that, you know, look, Vladimir Putin's bad.

00:39:05.320 This is bad news for Ukraine.

00:39:07.140 But what does this mean for us here in America?

00:39:10.400 How do we prepare?

00:39:11.820 Can there any steps we can take now?

00:39:13.440 So, yeah.

00:39:14.220 So I think there's several things that we can do and I'll talk about those coming up in

00:39:17.740 a little while.

00:39:18.220 But I think the first thing it needs to do is know that the seasons have changed.

00:39:22.140 We're in a different season now.

00:39:25.100 And we, and as crazy as this might sound to some people, get down on your knees and pray.

00:39:31.620 Pray for acceptance of God's will, for the protection of the innocent people whose lives

00:39:37.100 are in danger here and abroad in Ukraine, for supernatural wisdom to fall on the White House,

00:39:47.600 for God to work the hearts and minds of the leaders all over, and pray for our country.

00:39:54.140 We have to pray, but we also have to look at this and say, this is, we are constantly dividing

00:40:02.620 ourselves.

00:40:03.420 This is not an I told you so moment.

00:40:05.820 That will come, but it's not right now.

00:40:08.560 It would be so much easier if it was, this is a moment for us to pray for help because

00:40:15.560 we're in a very dicey situation.

00:40:18.560 Probably not the advice you were looking for, but.

00:40:20.580 I was actually, I mean, should I, what, should we be storing food?

00:40:25.920 Should we be, I mean, what's, pragmatically for the average person, what are you, what

00:40:30.560 are you supposed to be doing?

00:40:31.140 I'm going to, I'm, I'm going to talk about it hopefully next hour, but before the end

00:40:36.420 of the program, it is important that everything we told you to do to prepare, you have done

00:40:43.060 or are doing right now.

00:40:45.400 More in a second.

00:40:46.460 And Bill O'Reilly is also coming up with what he thinks and Michael Malice is joining

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00:40:52.420 They should be two very different opinions on what all of this means.

00:40:58.140 We'll give that next.

00:40:59.940 And then in our number three, we will talk about what do you do?

00:41:06.080 What does it mean?

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00:43:18.300 So many huge things are happening in the world right now.

00:43:24.220 I wanted to move our normal Friday guests, Michael Malice and Bill O'Reilly, right to

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00:43:35.740 It's important to hear other voices and as many voices as you can so we can get a handle

00:43:43.060 on what is coming and what all of this means.

00:43:45.480 We'll give you the update on what is currently happening in Ukraine and then what it means.

00:43:52.020 Bill O'Reilly joins us in 60 seconds.

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00:45:23.060 Stu, would you check on the price of Bitcoin, oil, and the Dow for me?

00:45:30.320 Tell me what's going on.

00:45:32.080 I know we were down about 800 points before the markets opened.

00:45:35.860 Last night, Vladimir Putin started taking out all of the infrastructure and the military defenses of Ukraine.

00:45:47.420 He said it's the denazification of Ukraine.

00:45:52.140 He again says he has no intent on occupying it, but he has cut off the forces so they cannot retreat to Kiev.

00:45:59.500 This is bad for Russia, especially if it becomes a bloodbath. 0.97

00:46:05.120 The president still hasn't spoken out on it.

00:46:08.260 We're waiting for him and what the consequences are going to be from the United States and Europe.

00:46:14.760 This could be a very bad development.

00:46:19.200 Bill O'Reilly is joining us now.

00:46:21.040 Hello, Bill.

00:46:22.300 Yeah, Biden's going to talk at 1230 Eastern.

00:46:25.340 That means he'll show up about 130.

00:46:27.980 Yeah.

00:46:28.380 The undisciplined White House.

00:46:30.220 He's always late.

00:46:31.820 So they're writing up the speech now.

00:46:34.400 He doesn't write the speeches.

00:46:36.760 He doesn't even edit them, interestingly enough.

00:46:39.680 And they're writing it up, and he'll go over two or three times, and then he'll go out.

00:46:45.920 You know, I figure about 130, 120.

00:46:49.720 And what he'll say is that they're going to, you know, up the sanctions more,

00:46:55.400 and no one will understand exactly what that is unless you're a microeconomist.

00:47:02.100 But what he has to do now, and there's no two sides to this story.

00:47:07.920 He's got to break Russia economically. 0.87

00:47:10.740 He's got to break them.

00:47:12.540 And this is the time to do it.

00:47:15.060 So I was wrong about Putin, and you know how thrilled I am to admit I'm wrong, Beck.

00:47:19.780 Yeah, I know, I know.

00:47:20.700 I know.

00:47:21.340 I was wrong because I thought Putin was a rational man, rational leader.

00:47:27.140 He is not.

00:47:28.940 That changes the equation.

00:47:31.980 Wait a minute.

00:47:32.740 Hang on, hang on, hang on, Bill.

00:47:33.820 Bill, is there a chance?

00:47:35.400 Because he has always appeared to be a ruthless killer, but also a rational, ruthless killer.

00:47:45.700 I cannot find any rhyme or reason.

00:47:49.220 So maybe we're looking for the wrong reasons for him.

00:47:53.100 Well, look, it doesn't matter what the reasons are.

00:47:57.280 Well, it does.

00:47:58.380 He's violating international law.

00:48:00.680 He's trying to destroy the world order and build up a new world order.

00:48:06.360 Correct.

00:48:07.260 So hang on.

00:48:09.140 Let's look at that for a second.

00:48:10.900 If you know they're going to put sanctions on you, a normal person would say, well, we're not going to be able to handle that.

00:48:17.160 But, you know, and I know, Bill, something that most people don't know, I think it was four or five years ago, Putin met with the Western press and said, World War Three is already here.

00:48:29.180 It's already being fought.

00:48:30.160 You your leaders just don't know it.

00:48:32.260 And it will be fought with ones and zeros.

00:48:34.440 If he is indeed looking for a new world order, this allows him to fight back and cripple financial markets, cripple, do what we're doing to him, but fight with ones and zeros.

00:48:48.440 Okay, but it's a different situation, Beck.

00:48:52.000 Yes, he's going to hurt and has hurt worldwide financial markets.

00:48:56.260 And the Dow is down about 700 points, 800 points today, and oil is up over $100 a barrel.

00:49:02.400 Now, that's temporary for us.

00:49:04.720 But for him, it isn't temporary.

00:49:06.780 So the only thing you can do with an irrational leader, and one of the reasons I made the mistake in my analysis that said Putin wouldn't bring military invasion to Ukraine was that when I talked to Trump, Trump thought he was rational.

00:49:22.520 Trump thought that there were lines that Putin wouldn't cross because he didn't cross them with Trump.

00:49:28.340 Okay, now we know that Putin is not rational.

00:49:33.420 So when you have a dangerous person with power in that area, and Saddam Hussein was one, Adolf Hitler was one, Joseph Stalin was one, and history is littered with them.

00:49:47.500 You have to break them early.

00:49:49.320 Nobody, and history has shown that, and the United States and Europe in a combination can break the Russian economy, which would lead to a coup against Putin.

00:50:01.180 So the people would rise up.

00:50:02.780 The military would turn on Putin.

00:50:04.400 I don't think anybody's real thrilled about this invasion of Ukraine within Russia because it doesn't do Russia any good.

00:50:10.020 They're basically having trouble feeding their people now, and that's China's problem, too.

00:50:16.820 So they have trouble providing a decent standard of living for their own people, and this is going to hurt them even more.

00:50:26.400 So you've got to crush their economy.

00:50:28.100 So Putin is not suicidal.

00:50:31.760 He knows.

00:50:33.560 It's too late now.

00:50:34.600 But Bill, I'm telling you, if we would have just said the Ayatollah Khomeini is irrational and a crazy man and left it at that, or Osama bin Laden, we wouldn't understand who we're dealing with.

00:50:51.240 It seems irrational to us, but that's because we don't view it from their point of view.

00:50:57.160 I think Putin, it does matter.

00:51:00.900 No, it doesn't matter at all.

00:51:02.480 His point of view doesn't matter.

00:51:04.600 Because he's already demonstrated that he's going to start a war.

00:51:09.500 So what the deuce does his point of view matter?

00:51:12.720 Now we have to take action.

00:51:13.740 What is he trying to accomplish?

00:51:18.980 What is his real goal?

00:51:21.940 Okay.

00:51:22.620 So his real stated goal is to reimpose the power of the Soviet Union.

00:51:28.940 That's his stated goal.

00:51:30.420 The empire, yeah.

00:51:31.480 Right.

00:51:32.180 But I think he's a loon.

00:51:34.600 I think he's a sociopathic, megalomaniacal loon.

00:51:41.320 He's all of those things except for the last one.

00:51:44.340 So then if that's who he is, that he wants to blow up the world, okay, then you have to stop him from blowing up the world.

00:51:56.400 And the only way to do it is to break the Russian economy so the Russian people themselves take care of him. 0.98

00:52:04.920 All right.

00:52:05.980 So there is this weird thing going on, Bill, where people are saying, you know, either we've got to go in and put boots on the ground and go to war, or they're saying we love we love Putin.

00:52:21.720 And, you know, we caused a lot of these problems, which some of that is true, but not this.

00:52:27.240 You know, I think we need to recognize that Putin is a very bad guy.

00:52:31.760 This is a very bad thing, violation of international law, and we need to be part of the solution.

00:52:38.400 But that doesn't mean go to war with Russia.

00:52:41.480 Would you agree with that?

00:52:42.760 Yeah.

00:52:43.060 I mean, look, you're not going to get into a shooting war with Russia unless Russia invades a NATO country.

00:52:50.520 So if that happens, then you have to uphold the treaty and defend militarily.

00:52:58.620 But it won't be the kind of war that was waged in Vietnam and Korea, even to some extent in Iraq.

00:53:06.320 It'll be a high-tech situation.

00:53:09.540 And Russia, again, has tremendous weapons.

00:53:14.800 They can inflict an amazing amount of damage on the world.

00:53:18.080 Now, will this guy Putin bring it to that?

00:53:21.960 I can't predict.

00:53:23.900 But the fact that he did this is that you don't give him the opportunity.

00:53:28.380 All right?

00:53:28.920 So if you inflict massive economic pain on Russia now, this is the only way to stop this man.

00:53:38.120 So if Biden comes out and is a mealy-mouthed, bumbling guy at 1230 in his conference today,

00:53:45.920 and we're in serious trouble, I do not expect that.

00:53:49.160 I expect that he will tell the world that there's going to be no more commerce with Russia.

00:53:54.400 None.

00:53:55.600 Okay?

00:53:56.380 Everything stops.

00:53:58.120 I would say no Russian airplanes are going to be allowed to land in the United States or Europe.

00:54:03.720 I would absolutely say that because everybody can understand that.

00:54:07.040 And I would also say if China or anyone else helps Putin, we're going to slap economic sanctions on them.

00:54:15.740 Now, that's the tough-guy approach we need.

00:54:19.060 Will Biden do it?

00:54:21.240 And if he doesn't do it, then we have a totally different discussion here.

00:54:25.960 Yeah, if he doesn't do it, because you're a historian, Bill.

00:54:30.800 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:54:31.920 This is what it must have felt like in 1939 with Germany.

00:54:36.560 But it was a different situation then, because the Allies then, in the late 1930s when Hitler was running roughshod,

00:54:46.700 weren't prepared for war.

00:54:49.720 We are.

00:54:51.020 Trump rebuilt our military, okay?

00:54:53.840 And we are a ferocious military machine, and so is NATO.

00:54:58.300 I mean, Ramstein Air Force Base, if it were me, if I were president, I'd be moving heavy bombers in there now.

00:55:05.860 Just as a force, show of force, okay?

00:55:09.840 You've got to send a message to China and the rest of the world. 0.99

00:55:14.220 We will not tolerate a breakdown in world order caused by a gangster.

00:55:21.180 All right?

00:55:21.400 That's what Putin is.

00:55:22.440 He is a thug.

00:55:24.540 All right?

00:55:25.460 Do you think anyone...

00:55:27.440 Go ahead.

00:55:28.120 Do you think anyone in our Pentagon, anyone in the White House, really would know how to position,

00:55:37.680 without getting us into a war, know how to position this or fight this?

00:55:42.980 I mean, there was one of the national security advisors for Obama last night and said,

00:55:47.540 I don't trust any of these people in the White House, and I know them.

00:55:51.020 I don't think they're prepared to do this.

00:55:52.920 I don't deal in that paranoia world.

00:55:55.060 I don't deal in the world of punditry that says, oh, let it go.

00:56:00.160 It's not, you know, America's fault.

00:56:02.460 You want a worldwide depression?

00:56:04.660 You want everybody in America paying $10 for a gallon of gas and not, you know, $30 for a hamburger?

00:56:12.500 Then you let these guys run wild, because that's what will happen.

00:56:15.520 All right?

00:56:16.340 So there's this idiocy, and I'm starting to lose patience with it, on television every night, where Putin's not that bad a guy.

00:56:25.600 It's Biden's fault that this is happening.

00:56:27.800 It's not Biden's fault this is happening.

00:56:30.220 Did Biden make it easier?

00:56:31.820 Absolutely.

00:56:32.300 Did everyone on the planet know he was going to be a weak president?

00:56:36.960 Well, if you didn't, you're a blanking moron.

00:56:40.220 All right?

00:56:40.880 But 80 million people voted for him.

00:56:43.280 That's on us.

00:56:44.200 Are we going to learn a lesson from that?

00:56:45.900 I hope so.

00:56:47.280 You put a weak guy in, you got the Civil War.

00:56:50.960 You put a weak guy in in 2020, you got Putin running wild.

00:56:56.380 Okay?

00:56:56.800 Are we getting the message, no more weak guys, no more progressives, no more Green New Deals, no more?

00:57:06.660 Or you're going to live a life of misery, and your children are going to be in chaos.

00:57:11.460 Do we all get that now, please?

00:57:14.300 But you don't blame Biden for what Putin is doing.

00:57:18.340 That's stupid.

00:57:19.360 You rally behind the country, United States, and you say, we're breaking Russia economically.

00:57:28.140 We're sending a message to China right now. 0.87

00:57:31.460 You are not going to destroy world order, because if you do that, every American gets hurt.

00:57:38.340 You see the linkage?

00:57:39.680 If you don't, you're a blanking moron.

00:57:42.220 I hate to be so stark, Beck, but it's time for this kind of talk in this country.

00:57:46.940 Americans made a tremendous mistake electing Joe Biden.

00:57:52.440 If you are still defending your vote, you're stupid.

00:57:57.340 Stupid.

00:57:58.340 If you are behind the progressive movement, you're destructive.

00:58:02.620 I don't want you in my house.

00:58:05.580 Okay?

00:58:06.260 It's over.

00:58:07.880 They failed.

00:58:09.540 Biden is a bad president.

00:58:11.920 Unfortunately, he's the only one we have, and now we have to demand that he break Russia economically. 0.95

00:58:21.540 That's what has to happen if Americans want to go back to normal lives.

00:58:27.700 Period.

00:58:29.160 All right.

00:58:30.000 Bill O'Reilly, I wish that you would be a little more clear on your feelings.

00:58:35.280 Will, I want to talk to you about, I've never heard a president, at the point it was two days ago, say, and this is going to cost the American people money.

00:58:46.000 There's going to be hardships here.

00:58:47.360 There are.

00:58:48.300 And I would like to talk to you a little bit about what you think this is going to cost us as people and what we should do as people.

00:58:57.900 Back with Bill O'Reilly in just a second.

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01:00:21.200 So, Bill, I want to ask you, first of all, have you ever heard, except in like World War II, a president say that these things are going to cost the American people?

01:00:45.220 I mean, financially, I've not heard that from any other president, and what he was talking about was gas prices and everything else, and it is going to cost us.

01:00:55.880 I mean, no doubt it is.

01:00:56.920 And this is a foolish, ideologically driven policy of trying to strangle a fossil fuel industry in the name of climate change.

01:01:10.120 When you have, and I don't know whether you noticed this or not, but last week, China and Russia made a deal for coal.

01:01:17.360 Where Russia is going to ship thousands of tons of coal to China, who's building five new coal plants for energy.

01:01:27.660 A week.

01:01:28.120 We're destroying our fossil fuel industry here, and they're doing that?

01:01:34.300 I mean, this is the kind of stupidity that's driven by the corrupt media, Hollywood, all of the places where you hear it, that's just incomprehensible.

01:01:49.420 It's incomprehensible.

01:01:51.200 I want a clean planet, but you don't destroy the infrastructure of your energy delivery system when people need to get to work and heat their homes, because of some blank in theory.

01:02:01.700 Okay, while the other side of the world is polluting the hell out of the planet.

01:02:08.280 You don't do that.

01:02:09.460 That's stupid.

01:02:10.520 Again, I have to use that word.

01:02:12.920 Okay?

01:02:14.020 But it's true.

01:02:15.620 Again, 80 million Americans voted for this man, and he goes on and goes,

01:02:19.300 My stupidity means you have to pay more money for fuel.

01:02:25.160 That's what he should say.

01:02:26.840 It's not all Americans have to sacrifice.

01:02:29.020 It's my stupidity is causing your bills to go up.

01:02:34.280 That's the truth, is it not, Beck?

01:02:36.980 It is.

01:02:37.880 Bill, I have about 90 seconds left.

01:02:41.160 What should we watch for good and bad in the speech today?

01:02:46.100 If it's all gobbledygook and you don't know if it's this bank and that bank,

01:02:50.600 and this guy can't come to Finland or whatever, then you know it's BS.

01:02:54.880 If he gets out there and he says, No more dollar transactions with Russia,

01:03:00.740 we're going to strangle their economy, we're going to break them,

01:03:03.840 because we can't put up with this kind of stuff, then maybe we got something.

01:03:07.720 I have to tell you, if a member of the audience is not subscribed to BillOReilly.com,

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01:03:24.120 and by the time he hits his program this afternoon and evening,

01:03:28.460 I have a feeling he will be deadly on this topic.

01:03:33.380 Bill, thank you so much.

01:03:34.440 God bless you.

01:03:35.520 Okay, Beck.

01:03:36.120 Thanks for having me.

01:03:37.100 Thank you.

01:03:37.660 BillOReilly.com.

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01:03:40.520 All right.

01:03:41.480 Now we go to Michael Malice.

01:03:45.280 Interested to hear what he has to say on what we should be looking for

01:03:51.180 and what all of this means.

01:03:53.860 Back in a minute.

01:03:58.160 The Glenn Beck Program.

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01:05:30.620 I think there's two things that we as Americans need to make very clear.

01:05:35.600 Vladimir Putin is an evil, bloodthirsty killer.

01:05:41.060 He is a totalitarian.

01:05:42.780 That does not mean, the second point I'd like to make clear, that we should go to war.

01:05:49.660 Those can be separate and equal.

01:05:53.840 And we need to support all we can, the people of Ukraine.

01:05:59.520 And I mean that as people.

01:06:00.940 Mercury One is working with Slovakia right now.

01:06:05.440 Slovakia is taking in refugees.

01:06:07.720 There are going to be people that are going to be running and escaping Ukraine.

01:06:12.140 And we are looking into ways to help them.

01:06:15.900 We as people can help the people of Ukraine.

01:06:19.540 A guy who knows communism really inside and out is Michael Malice.

01:06:24.960 This lie that Putin is sharing that, you know, it's just a Russian territory and, oh, they love Russia.

01:06:36.320 Let me use one word to remind the world, holodomor.

01:06:40.620 They don't love Russia.

01:06:43.060 Michael Malice is here with us now, the author of The Anarchist Handbook.

01:06:47.720 And also, dear leader, Michael, can you, you escaped from a communist country or your family did, right?

01:06:57.260 Yeah, I was born in Ukraine.

01:06:59.320 You're born in Ukraine.

01:06:59.780 We were all from Ukraine.

01:07:01.360 Yeah, we were from Western Ukraine, Lviv specifically.

01:07:04.320 Wow.

01:07:05.100 So I didn't know it was Ukraine.

01:07:07.260 So you, give us perspective on what's happening.

01:07:10.500 Well, I mean, I think the problem we have with, I'm going to take a little bit of a meta approach.

01:07:17.000 The problem we have with kind of the way our media is set up is you and I discussing a very dynamic situation.

01:07:23.560 We have very limited information.

01:07:25.920 The information we're given is often intentionally obligatory, certainly from Russia's perspective.

01:07:32.340 So we're kind of shooting off the hip and people want to understand how should I look at this.

01:07:37.340 And anything you and I say is going to be a little bit, it should be taken with a grain of salt, just like anything we see in the media, generally speaking.

01:07:45.760 But especially when it comes to a war situation, where it's enormously advantageous for both sides to kind of keep their cards close to their chest.

01:07:55.840 I would disagree with you a slight bit.

01:07:58.900 I don't think Putin is a totalitarian.

01:08:00.780 Not every dictator is a totalitarian.

01:08:02.980 But that is a silly semantic point that really is neither here nor there.

01:08:07.340 What would you call him?

01:08:08.680 Wait, wait.

01:08:09.280 How would you classify him?

01:08:11.040 You could be a dictator without being a totalitarian.

01:08:13.220 He's not literally a Stalinist or a Hitler figure.

01:08:18.380 I agree with you completely that when you're talking about missiles hitting cities, our concern should be with civilians and making sure they're kept safe.

01:08:29.640 I mean, I think it's fair to say, Glenn, this is the kind of thing that you and I and pretty much everyone listening to this couldn't really expect to see in our lifetimes.

01:08:40.720 This is something, you know, war in Europe and this level is something that was regarded as relegated to history books.

01:08:48.600 So I think we're all a bit like, what do we do now?

01:08:53.820 But thankfully, we have the strong, firm hand of Joe Biden in the White House.

01:08:59.060 Yes.

01:08:59.880 Head of the Foreign Policy Committee.

01:09:01.440 That's why Obama tapped him.

01:09:03.260 This is how smart Obama was.

01:09:05.480 He saw this coming.

01:09:06.720 So he picked Joe Biden as his foreign policy expert VP.

01:09:10.640 Now he's in the White House.

01:09:12.040 So we can rest assured.

01:09:13.000 The Ukrainian people can rest assured Joe Biden has your back.

01:09:16.300 Tell me what it's like in Ukraine.

01:09:20.240 Well, I left when I was one and a half, but my parents.

01:09:23.520 Well, as a one and a half.

01:09:24.880 So it was very big.

01:09:26.360 The rooms were very large.

01:09:29.140 No, they weren't.

01:09:30.120 Even when you're one and a half, I assure you.

01:09:33.520 But my parents did not.

01:09:35.600 You know, if they had any chance of me having a hopeful life there, I would have remained.

01:09:40.700 But again, this was the 70s.

01:09:42.460 This was the USSR. 0.84

01:09:44.360 It was a very different time.

01:09:45.620 And my Ukraine, don't say the Ukraine, which is a region.

01:09:49.720 Ukraine is a country.

01:09:51.520 Ukraine is, you know, obviously much more liberalized.

01:09:54.700 But the point you made earlier in the introduction, the level of animosity from Ukrainians to Russians,

01:10:03.120 and to Russia specifically, I don't want to say Russians, excuse me, is really, really high.

01:10:07.620 To the point where if you speak Russian or that is kind of a bit of a faux pas, because there's such a memory of decades of oppression.

01:10:19.140 But on the other hand, eastern Ukraine does have more affinity toward Russia than western Ukraine, which has historically more aligned with Europe.

01:10:28.300 I mean, it's the reason why we say Kiev instead of Kiev, which we've always said, because Kiev is the way the Russians have pronounced it, if I'm not mistaken, right?

01:10:40.480 Correct.

01:10:40.920 That's correct.

01:10:41.340 When he says he's going to denazify the Ukraine or Ukraine itself, what does that mean to people in Ukraine?

01:10:58.960 Oh, it meant that all those truckers somehow crossed the ocean, and now they're in Ukraine.

01:11:06.500 They really kicked them out of Canada good.

01:11:10.340 I mean, it means nothing.

01:11:12.380 It's nonsense.

01:11:13.300 It's complete, you know, double talk.

01:11:15.820 It was the same thing that East Germany said for years for their oppression, which is, oh, you know, we're getting rid of all the Nazis, which were kind of, they claimed was historically a specifically West German phenomenon.

01:11:27.140 How could that even have been possible?

01:11:28.140 So when you're talking, here's the thing with Putin and just with the Russian approach, it's kind of like saying things that are so audacious and ridiculous on its face, like daring you to call their bluff.

01:11:41.140 So whatever he's saying, I mean, in any time of war, you only have to roll your eyes and be like, okay, this is nonsensical.

01:11:48.920 So, Michael, I know that you and I disagree on the size of government.

01:11:54.120 You say zero, I say, you know, some.

01:11:58.140 And we both disagree with going into Ukraine, I imagine, and sending military and troops and getting involved in another war, et cetera, et cetera.

01:12:09.500 Can you explain, how do you square the circle when it comes to things like Hitler?

01:12:18.580 If we would have acted sooner and acted with force before he went into Poland, things might have been different.

01:12:29.360 You catch these guys early and don't give them any air to breathe.

01:12:32.960 How do you how would you deal with this in your utopian world?

01:12:37.600 Well, I don't live in a utopian world.

01:12:40.540 You live in a utopian world because in your utopian world, you can go into someone who is duly elected, like Hitler was, and you could overthrow the government. 0.87

01:12:48.660 And somehow that's not going to have negative consequences.

01:12:50.500 So, the non-utopian world I live in recognizes that there are going to be extremely evil people like Hitler.

01:12:59.500 And in order to do this, you have to make sure they are not given incentives and mechanisms to increase their power.

01:13:06.780 And the only way a Hitler can become a Hitler is with the government. 0.86

01:13:11.980 Without a government, you're just going to have him be a homeless painter.

01:13:16.220 So, and so that's one thing.

01:13:18.580 I don't think anyone has or had a solution to Hitler. 0.96

01:13:25.000 I mean, Hitler happened. 0.96

01:13:26.240 So, there was no good options on the table at the time, especially, and most importantly, and this goes back to the person you and I hate the most in terms of America, Woodrow Wilson.

01:13:36.780 If the West hadn't been so exhausted as a result of the Great War, if they hadn't seen an entire generation lost for no reason, there would be far more appetite to take on a Hitler. 0.93

01:13:47.340 This is one of the reasons Neville Chamberlain, you know, had his appeasement, because he's like, we're not doing this again.

01:13:54.380 I can't, whatever the cost is, we're not paying it because we just paid the cost yesterday, effectively.

01:13:59.520 So, in your non-utopian world, looking at our utopian world, how does a Michael Malice solve that?

01:14:09.100 Do you, if you don't want him to be a dictator, don't let him grow into things, don't give him access to things, do you cut off his access to the West?

01:14:21.320 To Hitler? 0.88

01:14:22.620 No, no, like Putin.

01:14:25.600 What would you do if you were, go ahead.

01:14:28.280 I don't, I am not, this, you're, we're talking, there's a big difference between, you know, a political philosophy and theory, whether, you know, the Founding Fathers' vision of America, my vision of anarchism, or some kind of Bernie Sanders' social democracy.

01:14:45.020 I don't know that any of those really matter when it comes to a situation of war that we're fighting today.

01:14:51.840 I'm not a military strategist, I don't think I have any particular insight into geopolitics, or we should sanction this region, or let some drought in through the Caspian Sea, or something like that.

01:15:03.660 I don't have any good answers for you, Glenn, I'm sorry.

01:15:05.800 Oh, that's, that's, I mean, I think that's one of the best answers I have heard from anybody.

01:15:12.540 Everybody's willing to spout off.

01:15:14.500 And, of course, you know, those of us who are clearly right do.

01:15:19.480 Anyway, Michael, thank you.

01:15:23.340 Go ahead.

01:15:23.920 Just quickly, anyone who thinks that there is some kind of magic wand that's going to resolve a situation against, you know, one of the largest countries in the world, who's actually already shooting missiles in the cities, I think they're just being inaccurate.

01:15:36.760 Do you think that Vladimir Putin is, Bill O'Reilly and I just had this argument, he thinks he's crazy, he thinks he's always been, always been rational, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but now he's crazy.

01:15:52.320 I don't think he's crazy.

01:15:53.360 I just don't think we understand what his goals are.

01:15:55.400 The whole point, the reason I wrote Dear Reader, my North Korean book, is to demonstrate how evil, rational, and logical their system is in order to further the Kim's family and their control and power. 0.99

01:16:07.080 There's nothing Putin's doing that is remotely crazy just because it's something evil or we don't understand.

01:16:13.500 Correct.

01:16:14.440 Correct.

01:16:15.460 We just don't understand what his real motives are, what his end game is.

01:16:19.520 We can look at it from our perspective and say that that's ridiculous.

01:16:23.820 But until we understand him, we don't stand a chance.

01:16:29.840 We don't stand a chance.

01:16:31.600 Thank you, Michael.

01:16:32.420 I appreciate it.

01:16:33.580 Always a pleasure.

01:16:34.140 Go ahead and take care, guys.

01:16:35.220 You bet.

01:16:35.660 Bye-bye.

01:16:37.140 Interesting perspective.

01:16:38.320 All right.

01:16:38.560 Back in just a second.

01:16:41.200 All right.

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01:17:04.280 Who's going to teach them this?

01:17:06.140 If you're not teaching it, they will not get it.

01:17:09.920 I want to make sure you understand that.

01:17:11.760 They are not going to get it anywhere else unless you are teaching it.

01:17:16.400 But how are you going to, how is, what are you going to do?

01:17:19.720 How are you going to teach that?

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01:18:27.320 Coming up in just a few minutes, I'm going to tell you what I think we should do as a

01:18:42.880 people, as a group of listeners, what we need to recognize, and what all of this insanity

01:18:49.880 means.

01:18:50.960 And it is insanity.

01:18:52.520 And there's a lot of nuance in life.

01:18:57.360 And the reason why you can call the Tea Party Nazis or you can call the truckers Nazis is

01:19:05.540 because some one person will show up with a Nazi flag, and they're probably not even involved

01:19:12.280 with the movement.

01:19:13.540 And then that is the story.

01:19:16.000 And there is no nuance.

01:19:17.440 There is no stopping and saying, well, wait a minute.

01:19:20.060 Is that true?

01:19:20.820 Um, there is, life is more complex than black and white.

01:19:28.060 Um, and the idea that, um, uh, we should defend Putin is insanity.

01:19:37.900 Um, we, I don't think we should go to war over this.

01:19:41.860 I think that would be a colossal, it would be playing into the same things that we have done

01:19:46.840 over and over and over again in the last hundred years and keep screwing it up.

01:19:52.100 Um, to blame this on, on Joe Biden is also nonsense.

01:19:57.360 Did he play a role in screwing things up?

01:20:00.520 Yes, he did.

01:20:01.660 Is he, uh, responsible in some regard for Putin wanting to do this and think he'd get away

01:20:08.320 with it because of Afghanistan?

01:20:10.160 Absolutely.

01:20:10.640 Is it Joe Biden's fault?

01:20:12.880 No, it is Putin's fault, period.

01:20:16.960 Now, how do we deal with him?

01:20:18.740 Well, uh, you know, that's, that's where the subtlety comes in and it's not just do nothing,

01:20:24.920 praise Putin or go to the war.

01:20:27.540 It's not that.

01:20:28.040 I mean, and it, look, I think Joe Biden definitely deserves a good chunk of blame for the way

01:20:33.000 he's handled this.

01:20:33.820 And I think, I know you agree with that.

01:20:35.400 You know, it's sort of similar to saying that like, you know, someone goes, uh, a bunch

01:20:39.480 of crime starts happening in a city that has defund the police.

01:20:42.920 It's like, you know, the criminals are primarily still at fault for the crimes, right?

01:20:48.120 That, you know, but the policy of defund the police is making it easier.

01:20:52.440 It's encouraging these things to go on and it's certainly doing nothing to solve the problem.

01:20:58.040 So Biden, look, Biden isn't responsive.

01:21:00.680 He's not launching missiles at Ukraine, but he is, he's, his, particularly Afghanistan

01:21:06.200 showed so much weakness that Putin, who wants to do terrible things, felt emboldened to do

01:21:12.260 them.

01:21:13.440 Uh, and I think has emboldened China as we're seeing today, there is a leak from the Chinese 1.00

01:21:19.820 press.

01:21:20.460 There's no leaks in China, you know, or you go away.

01:21:24.720 There's no leaks.

01:21:25.860 Uh, they intentionally, uh, leaked this out from their own media.

01:21:30.920 Uh, the, the, uh, leadership of China said, go easy on Russia, support them because we're

01:21:37.560 going to need their support when we take on the United States about Ukraine.

01:21:42.280 Uh, I'm sorry, about Taiwan, because Taiwan is not like Ukraine.

01:21:46.660 Taiwan has always been Chinese. 0.79

01:21:49.780 So that all stems from the weakness in Afghanistan.

01:21:55.120 This is what happens when you have a weak leader.

01:21:58.420 Uh, I, I would say we all need to pray for Joe Biden and the leadership of this nation.

01:22:06.120 Uh, pray for us to know what to do.

01:22:09.420 I'm going to try to help you on that next coming up at the top of the hour.

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01:23:29.640 Uh, we are not in a battle against flesh and bone.

01:23:34.820 We are not in a battle against Putin or, uh, against, uh, an out of control government or

01:23:42.320 China.

01:23:42.960 China, we are in a war against evil and it needs to be said, and you need to know which

01:23:50.640 side you're on.

01:23:52.300 Are you on the side of men making their own decisions and, and living their life freely

01:24:01.740 so they can choose their own wins and losses and their own, uh, course in life?

01:24:10.080 Or are you for, uh, locking everything down and being super, super safe and losing the

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01:24:20.280 And that is the ability to be free.

01:24:23.820 We're going to give you in a nutshell, what I think this whole thing means with Russia and

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01:26:05.260 Stu, can you give me a look at the price, where the stock market is, the price of Bitcoin,

01:26:12.460 gold, silver, oil?

01:26:15.440 Sure, sure.

01:26:16.380 So, Dow is down about 600 points right now, which is off of its lows from the last 24 hours,

01:26:26.220 but still down quite a bit.

01:26:27.480 It's still, what, about 2%, not bad.

01:26:30.140 Bitcoin is at about 36,000, which is about near its lows since the 2021 price increase.

01:26:41.260 It's bounced between, you know, 30,000 and, you know, close to 70,000.

01:26:48.580 As the stock market, if the stock market falls dramatically, you will see Bitcoin fall as well,

01:26:56.040 only because people who have Bitcoin may have taken out margins and bet on stocks,

01:27:04.800 and they're going to have to pay that back.

01:27:06.760 So, you might see an initial fall of Bitcoin.

01:27:10.840 Could be for other reasons, but you should expect that as well.

01:27:15.260 Oil is over $100 a barrel for the first time since, I think, 2014.

01:27:19.520 It's at 104, basically, right now.

01:27:22.860 Gold is approaching $2,000 an ounce.

01:27:26.120 It's at 1929, right now.

01:27:29.380 So, what an appropriate number, 1929.

01:27:37.420 Oh, man.

01:27:38.100 Great, great, great.

01:27:40.980 Okay.

01:27:43.080 So, people, my own family has written to me, what do we do?

01:27:47.500 What do we do?

01:27:48.020 What do we do?

01:27:49.780 I want you to think about things this way.

01:27:54.560 Look, there are so many ways this whole world can come apart.

01:28:00.540 We are looking at a very, very fragile situation all over the world.

01:28:06.920 It's not just America.

01:28:08.260 This is happening all over the world, especially in the West.

01:28:14.540 There is a feeling in me, a friend said to me, don't run away from something.

01:28:19.420 Always run towards something.

01:28:21.220 And you'll know when it's time to find that thing or that thing will appear when the seasons change.

01:28:31.160 He said, watch the leaves on the trees and you will know when the seasons change.

01:28:36.800 I will tell you that I think we have hit a season change.

01:28:42.500 I've been feeling it this last week, week and a half, that something is different.

01:28:48.360 And it's a season change.

01:28:51.160 We're entering a new phase.

01:28:53.260 So some of the things that I would suggest you do, some may dismiss, but I will tell you, we are fighting evil now.

01:29:04.940 We are.

01:29:05.700 And evil is, it's just rearing up its head and it thinks it's going to win.

01:29:11.520 It doesn't know what's coming for it, but it thinks it's going to win.

01:29:16.920 I know how it ends.

01:29:18.420 We all know if you're a Christian, we all know how this ends. 0.96

01:29:22.560 It's just which side are you going to be on?

01:29:25.100 And it's going to be very easy to get lost and get swept up into things.

01:29:31.020 So let me give you a couple of things that we should be doing.

01:29:33.460 First of all, pray.

01:29:35.260 You should be praying and reading your Bible every day and be on your knees asking for guidance.

01:29:42.580 And listen and obey that still small voice that you hear.

01:29:48.680 That, there's nothing more important than that.

01:29:52.040 Get into groups and neighborhoods that think alike.

01:29:57.400 Find a group of friends that maybe will join you on this path and you can help each other.

01:30:06.240 We are going to need each other if we're going to survive.

01:30:09.160 If you are all alone, move.

01:30:14.400 Don't be the only person that is in your area and you're feeling alone.

01:30:19.780 Get out.

01:30:21.000 Find like-minded people because the seasons have changed.

01:30:26.600 When you're preparing, think about the community as a whole.

01:30:30.340 I have a small town in Idaho that I just love.

01:30:33.500 And I moved there because it's a small town.

01:30:36.040 And they're all farmers and farmers know that they're going to have to take care of each other.

01:30:41.960 And right now, we are doing things as a town like we're building a smoker because we know if there's a shortage of meat and let's say there's a shortage of power and power keeps going in and out, there's going to be a shortage that we won't be able to deal with.

01:31:03.220 So let's go learn how to smoke meat so we can smoke some beef and store some beef if it gets to that point.

01:31:11.800 You know, we didn't have a warning in 1929, really.

01:31:15.880 It wasn't it was the roaring 20s and then maybe a couple of years into it, a couple of years before 1929, some signs started to appear.

01:31:24.060 But it was a pretty fast crash.

01:31:27.300 We've had almost two decades to prepare.

01:31:31.380 So there's no excuse here.

01:31:34.220 We have the warnings.

01:31:36.420 You're either listening to them or you're not.

01:31:39.680 And if you're not, man, there are less stressful shows to listen to.

01:31:43.460 Honestly, honestly.

01:31:47.220 Prepare now.

01:31:49.120 And here's a couple of things you can do.

01:31:51.160 At this point, I would make sure that I had a week's worth of cash on hand.

01:31:56.180 Why?

01:31:57.880 Because if I if I were Vladimir Putin and we started getting hit financially, I would unleash my team of hackers and I would shut down oil pipelines.

01:32:10.740 I would shut down the the access to our banks.

01:32:16.640 I would I would disrupt through hacking as much as I can.

01:32:21.160 He remember, he said World War Three will be fought with ones and zeros. 0.69

01:32:25.360 I don't know how prepared we are for that, but he's very prepared for that.

01:32:29.640 So we should be.

01:32:31.060 This isn't attack against just the government.

01:32:34.120 This is an attack on us.

01:32:36.980 Make the people as miserable as possible.

01:32:40.140 So we could see in very short order banking holidays.

01:32:44.780 It would be rational if somebody is attacking our our financial systems, then they got to shut them down for a while and it would cause great instability.

01:32:55.440 Do you have enough money just to be able to buy the things that you would need to buy so life is OK during a banking holiday?

01:33:03.640 You might want to have more than that.

01:33:07.800 Fill your gas tanks and keep them keep extra gas in gas tanks.

01:33:13.640 There will be shortages.

01:33:15.660 Keep them tapped up.

01:33:16.680 So if you needed to go someplace, you can go to call your oil heating company and tap your tank off.

01:33:24.900 If you can gas for heat and cooking, get those tanks filled now.

01:33:31.420 It'll be cheaper now than later.

01:33:34.780 But also you want to make sure if there is any disruption, you're not going into it with half a tank.

01:33:40.360 If you fill your pantry, you will thank me in a year.

01:33:46.500 If you go out and buy food today, you will thank me in a year because inflation alone is going to go through the roof.

01:33:57.880 It will.

01:33:59.840 If you can get vegetables and even can them out of season, but you can get them now, I would get them and can them.

01:34:08.680 They're going to be harder to get the price of fertilizer and and just having a farm is going through the roof.

01:34:17.080 These things are going to be more scarce next year.

01:34:21.160 If you if you if you can, I would have a year's worth of food supply for my family.

01:34:28.060 And if I really had money, I would plan for others as well.

01:34:32.420 We are going to need one another.

01:34:34.760 And that's why I say be in these communities, because somebody is going to have something that you need and they're going to have something that you need.

01:34:43.880 And you're going to have something that they need.

01:34:46.940 Begin to think this way.

01:34:49.620 Really, really important.

01:34:53.060 Watch the other hand.

01:34:54.760 This is a very dangerous, dangerous and fragile time for freedom.

01:35:04.740 Look how fast Canada called people terrorists and shut them down.

01:35:11.380 This is going to happen while we are not paying attention or for some other reasons.

01:35:19.380 It is vital that you get involved in your local and state politics.

01:35:26.720 You call your state reps and tell them to stop ESG standards from being used in your state.

01:35:36.240 It is so important that's the these standards are pretty much what the the Canadian government is doing to the truckers.

01:35:47.300 Get your state to pass a law also against a single Fed coin.

01:35:52.580 I'm going to give you a story here that I can't believe we missed.

01:35:56.440 In June 2021, the Bank of England, that's their Federal Reserve, the Bank of England has called on ministers to decide whether a central bank digital currency should be programmable,

01:36:13.180 ultimately giving the issuer control over how it is spent by the recipient.

01:36:19.000 Tom Mutton, the director of Bank of England, said during a conference on Monday that programming would become a key feature of any future bank digital currency in which the money could be programmed to release only when something happened.

01:36:34.560 You can introduce programmability.

01:36:37.880 It happens to be one of the participants in a transaction.

01:36:41.500 It puts a restriction on the use of that money.

01:36:44.100 There could be some socially beneficial outcomes from that, preventing activities which are seen to be socially harmful in some way.

01:36:55.340 This is what they were talking about two years ago.

01:36:58.080 If you don't think that digital currency is coming, you're mistaken.

01:37:03.840 It is right around the corner, and it could be something like what could be coming in response to Putin and our cutting him off on the banks.

01:37:20.480 He will respond, I believe, in ones and zeros, and then the government will have its new virus.

01:37:27.580 It'll be a computer virus, and they'll have to protect us and shut things down.

01:37:33.400 Get your kids out of school if you can, but local schools, if you have to have the local school, make sure you know all about it.

01:37:41.320 Again, if you're the lone voice, move now.

01:37:45.400 If you are joining the truckers here in America, make sure you are not following a leader.

01:37:52.820 Make sure you're following God and the peace and actions of Christ.

01:37:58.400 Get the Martin Luther King Pledge of Nonviolence and get everyone in that group to sign it.

01:38:04.820 If they will not sign it, you may be in the wrong group.

01:38:09.340 Between real crazies who want to burn the entire thing down through war or chaos, plants from the left who are Antifa,

01:38:17.860 and the fact that media, the Capitol Police, and the FBI actively, in one way or another, want to define us as terrorists,

01:38:27.920 be very, very, very careful.

01:38:31.860 Look how fast it happened in Canada.

01:38:35.100 Remember, chaos is from the adversary.

01:38:38.960 It is what I believe Putin is creating now.

01:38:42.000 I think he's doing it intentionally, but I could be wrong.

01:38:44.960 That's only a guess.

01:38:46.340 We are not asking for chaos.

01:38:49.140 We are asking for a return to order, the constitutional order.

01:38:54.960 That is really an important difference.

01:39:00.180 If we can just keep our heads about us and not freak out, if we can have faith that we have God guiding us,

01:39:12.480 and if we live righteous lives, if we are people of merit, as George Washington said, he will see us through.

01:39:20.360 I expect miracles to be seen in your time.

01:39:25.540 In your life, you will see clear hand-of-God miracles if you haven't already.

01:39:31.320 Billy Graham was right when he said, God's doing stuff with people all over the world,

01:39:37.700 and one of these days, he's going to turn on the lights, and it'll be a surprise party for Satan,

01:39:45.100 and you will see that the solution could only have come from God,

01:39:50.080 because it's all of these individual people standing up.

01:39:52.980 I was talking to Stu yesterday about people actually having dreams or hearing from God.

01:40:01.360 I think that is a growing thing.

01:40:04.460 Don't dismiss those promptings.

01:40:06.820 Don't dismiss them.

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01:41:38.440 So, Glenn, what do you think is the end game here?

01:41:54.100 Is it going for all of Ukraine?

01:41:57.340 There's the idea that maybe he goes for a giant chunk of it, but their old borders didn't encapsulate taking every inch of Ukraine.

01:42:06.840 Does he go farther than Ukraine?

01:42:08.400 Moldova, NATO countries, what do you think?

01:42:11.120 I think he, I don't know, because I don't think we know his motive.

01:42:15.500 I really don't think we know his motive.

01:42:17.620 If his motive is chaos, then God help us, who knows?

01:42:24.300 He'll respond to our sanctions.

01:42:27.420 When the president speaks today, we'll know what those sanctions are.

01:42:30.600 And if they do indeed cripple, he will respond. 1.00

01:42:34.260 And I think he'll respond with ones and zeros, and then all bets are off.

01:42:39.140 You know, it makes sense to me that maybe he's just trying to take that corridor that leads to the Black Sea.

01:42:47.040 If he can take about half of Ukraine, he'll take the whole warm water port that Ukraine has right now.

01:42:55.220 And that changes the game somewhat for him.

01:43:00.880 And that I could see as a logical victory for him.

01:43:05.600 But again, I don't know his motivations, Stu.

01:43:08.400 Do you?

01:43:08.740 He's not crazy.

01:43:10.160 Bill O'Reilly said he was crazy.

01:43:11.640 I don't think so.

01:43:13.060 No, I mean, his motivation might be crazy, but he's doing logical things.

01:43:16.700 To get to that end game, which is, you know, that's the separation point, I think, between you two and that conversation.

01:43:24.940 You know, look, his stated goal, as Bill pointed out, and as you've pointed out many times, is to get the band back together, right?

01:43:31.620 To put this empire, the Russian empire, not even the Soviet Union as much as the Russian empire back together.

01:43:37.120 You know, I think it's more than that.

01:43:40.480 You know, I think it's more than that.

01:43:41.820 But that is a big chunk of it.

01:43:43.020 He does want this territory.

01:43:44.440 He does want the advantages that come along with it.

01:43:47.940 All right.

01:43:48.420 We're going to talk to somebody in Washington who actually may have an intelligent point of view instead of us two boobs talking about it. 0.88

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01:45:36.560 Russia claims to have destroyed 74 Ukrainian facilities, 11 air bases.

01:45:43.900 We don't know what their ultimate plans are at this point.

01:45:48.580 Biden is moving, may move additional U.S. troops further east in Europe.

01:45:54.000 It looks like the sanctions, if this is true, Stu, can you read that story that you just told me about the SWIFT banking procedures?

01:46:04.040 Yeah, the European Union is saying they are unlikely at this stage to take steps to cut Russia off from the SWIFT global interbank payment system.

01:46:12.520 I don't know what you're doing.

01:46:13.140 That's insanity.

01:46:13.840 I mean, if you're going to cut him off, you've got to cut him off at the knees right now.

01:46:22.320 You know, if you give him time, I mean, there should be, if the sanctions are serious, otherwise don't do them.

01:46:29.220 But if they're serious, you cut him off from selling any oil or gas anywhere in the West.

01:46:37.700 Don't let anybody fly from Russia into the West. 0.81

01:46:43.060 Don't don't let him do any banking.

01:46:45.680 I mean, the entire country.

01:46:47.620 Sorry, frozen.

01:46:49.880 That's that's it.

01:46:51.000 Those are sanctions.

01:46:52.660 Everything else is a joke.

01:46:54.480 We have Representative Mark Green on with us.

01:46:56.780 He's from Tennessee.

01:46:59.060 Congressman, how are you, sir?

01:47:01.260 Glenn, I'm great.

01:47:02.180 And thanks for having me on your show.

01:47:03.840 Real honor.

01:47:04.520 Sure.

01:47:05.460 I know we're going to talk about something you're going to introduce on Monday, but I wanted to first pick your brain about Ukraine and what we should be doing and what what do you think this means?

01:47:17.540 Well, it's we're in a totally new era now.

01:47:22.460 This is an invasion of a Western style democracy by a totalitarian dictator.

01:47:31.920 And I agree with you what you just said.

01:47:34.200 The swift banking transactions, you we can't do this half measures.

01:47:39.740 I mean, that's what got us.

01:47:41.620 This is what got us where we are.

01:47:44.180 And so it's I think I think we need to we need to crush their energy economy.

01:47:50.080 We need to crush the ruble, their currency.

01:47:54.140 They they cannot ever think of doing this again.

01:47:57.460 You know, Biden said that he's going to have sanctions on him beyond his wildest expectations or some, you know, hyperbolic statement like that.

01:48:09.200 And it reminds me of the full force and power of the United States when we said that in Iraq.

01:48:17.380 And I remember watching it going.

01:48:19.360 That's the full force of the United States.

01:48:21.860 No, it's not.

01:48:22.380 I mean, it was good, but that's not the full force of the United States.

01:48:25.580 I don't I mean, if he doesn't come out with real sanctions today, we have even less credibility than we had earlier.

01:48:37.280 Absolutely. If if he doesn't do those banking sanctions, what he's doing is sanctioning what Vladimir Putin has done, because the next step will be disinformation campaigns and saboteurs in Georgia, the Baltics.

01:48:53.820 This guy is bent on destroying the West.

01:48:58.300 He wants to do to the West what happened to the Soviet Union.

01:49:02.920 And he's this this is his next move in a bigger plan.

01:49:07.280 I look at what happened in Canada with the truckers and how fast they could move to shut people off.

01:49:15.480 And I am, you know, Vladimir Putin said a few years ago that World War Three, which he claimed at the time we were already in the West, just didn't know it.

01:49:25.380 He said World War Three will be fought with ones and zeros.

01:49:28.760 If we do put sanctions on him today that make his life uncomfortable, you know, I believe we could see financial sectors hit by by hackers.

01:49:39.120 Energy sectors, energy sectors hit here in the United States.

01:49:43.480 And it makes me very nervous that that would be something our government would say we need to crack down on everything online and take control of it just to protect you.

01:49:57.180 It seems it seems it seems too easy.

01:50:02.160 Well, we certainly have authoritarians in control in the U.S.

01:50:05.800 now with this president and the Democrats in certain states.

01:50:09.260 You just look at the covid response and and and the woke cancel culture.

01:50:14.020 And, you know, it's it's not a far far reach to think that they would do something like that.

01:50:20.200 But I anticipate I think you're right.

01:50:22.180 This there will be cyber attacks on the U.S.

01:50:25.240 There already have been the pipeline shut down was was clearly correct.

01:50:31.380 Criminal elements.

01:50:32.660 They say criminal elements inside Russia.

01:50:36.000 Uh huh.

01:50:38.220 OK.

01:50:38.740 Yeah, right.

01:50:40.500 China.

01:50:41.120 Yeah.

01:50:41.620 China came out last night and there was a leaked report, which leaks don't happen in China.

01:50:49.100 But there was a leak report from the media that said the media needs to support Russia because we're going to need Russia's support when we deal with America on Taiwan.

01:51:01.500 How concerned are you with the relationship between China and Russia?

01:51:10.200 Well, I'm very concerned that this axis is forming between Iran, Russia and China.

01:51:16.840 And, you know, as if you look at history and I know you are a lover of history, but if you go back to the end of the 30 years war, we created this sort of world order concept.

01:51:30.260 And what began was what I call the polarity cycle, where after a great war, there's exhaustion, there's some kind of treaty and there's multi polarity.

01:51:40.380 Countries are treated equally.

01:51:41.560 And then over time, balance of power, politics take over.

01:51:45.100 Some countries can afford that.

01:51:46.500 Some can't.

01:51:47.160 So there's alignment.

01:51:48.020 And eventually the world or region aligns into this bipolar state and then massive war usually follows.

01:51:56.880 And this has been my concern.

01:51:58.360 I've been echoing this for years that we have to be careful.

01:52:01.860 And I genuinely believe that's why Biden and his administration don't want to do the swift transactions.

01:52:07.880 They think it pushes Russia further into China's arms.

01:52:11.400 But I would submit I think they're already there.

01:52:14.160 They are strategically cooperating to, you know, basically pin us.

01:52:19.900 And so I that's why I think devastating action needs to happen.

01:52:24.120 And perhaps as Xi Jinping watches that, he'll take note.

01:52:30.640 We have sold our soul to the devil with China. 1.00

01:52:34.140 And this is something you're going to introduce on on Monday.

01:52:39.260 But people don't have any idea how what the influence that we're already getting in television and movies, how China is truly influencing everything.

01:52:55.920 Can you talk a little bit about the Screen Act?

01:52:59.680 Yeah, absolutely.

01:53:00.680 And of course, thanks for having me on to talk about this.

01:53:03.600 Americans are aware of what's happening at the NBA, you know, with the suppression.

01:53:09.460 I mean, they they took that one player from the Celtics off.

01:53:13.100 I mean, he's he's basically not playing basketball anymore.

01:53:16.260 They have canceled other people for making statements.

01:53:20.560 So they everybody knows about the NBA kowtowing to China.

01:53:24.780 What a lot of people aren't aware of is that our movies are now a part of China's disinformation campaign in the U.S.

01:53:33.040 And they you take movies like Skyfall and Mission Impossible three.

01:53:38.160 They actually changed the the script of the movie to be more positive towards China.

01:53:44.820 And it's just example after example.

01:53:48.060 Dr. Strange was supposed to be in the script from Tibet.

01:53:51.080 But of course, Tibet, you know, the Chinese don't want anything talked about the suppression or oppression that's happening there.

01:53:59.860 So the movie script was changed and the guy was Celtic.

01:54:03.820 So this stuff is going on in America to Hollywood.

01:54:08.060 And they're doing the same thing.

01:54:10.560 Now, there are some actors speaking up.

01:54:11.960 You take a guy like Richard Gere, who's actually hopefully stepped out and said this is going on.

01:54:17.280 But it's it's really unacceptable.

01:54:18.820 So I've written this bill, if any.

01:54:21.780 Oh, go ahead.

01:54:23.080 I was just going to say he has paid a heavy, heavy price.

01:54:28.240 He is outspoken on the evils of China and and, you know, the peacefulness of Tibet and what's going on.

01:54:36.200 And he's paid a heavy price.

01:54:38.160 It's why his career is kind of just been lost all of a sudden.

01:54:41.700 Yeah, no, they are canceling people who speak out on this.

01:54:47.420 There was a actually Beijing born director, producer who came to America, made some great movies.

01:54:55.340 But then they found something that she said back eight years ago where she said the Chinese Communist Party is a bunch of liars and there's nothing in China but lies.

01:55:02.840 And she immediately got silenced.

01:55:05.640 So it's it's it's it's massive.

01:55:08.060 And what we're doing is basically saying if you take American dollars and the State Department and DOD oftentimes support movies being made.

01:55:18.120 So if you're you're taking taxpayer dollars, you cannot alter that movie to meet China's demands.

01:55:24.360 And if you do, we're taking that money back.

01:55:28.080 Well, I'm just help me out here.

01:55:31.580 Why are we why is the guy supporting movies and funding movies to be made?

01:55:38.160 Well, if you think about it from the DOD's perspective, if they, for example, loan a helicopter for a military movie, it serves to recruit people into the military.

01:55:50.540 So it's it's somewhat of a recruitment budget.

01:55:52.900 And then from the State Department standpoint, it's tourism.

01:55:58.680 OK, all right.

01:56:00.340 Well, I mean, I can see it from the DOD.

01:56:04.080 I don't know about the State Department, but OK.

01:56:07.600 And you what are you expecting?

01:56:10.160 I mean, is our government not in the pocket of of China?

01:56:16.800 Well, very clearly, the Democrats do not want to criticize China.

01:56:20.360 I tried to put this as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, and it got voted down in the Armed Services Committee.

01:56:29.220 So the Democrats don't want to talk about this.

01:56:31.820 We'll we'll launch this bill next week.

01:56:34.020 We'll make a big, you know, get the press out there, try to educate Americans.

01:56:37.680 It probably won't see the light of day in committee, but we'll get people talking about it.

01:56:44.420 We'll get other Republicans to sign on to the bill, maybe a Democrat or two.

01:56:47.640 There are a couple of reasonable ones out there.

01:56:49.540 I was impressed by what Galejo said about Obama and Ukraine.

01:56:55.760 That was a great comment from him.

01:56:57.600 The real weakness in America started with Obama.

01:57:00.400 But so there are a couple out there.

01:57:02.320 We'll we'll we'll get them on.

01:57:03.820 We'll get the word out about it.

01:57:05.720 And then when we take control of the House in the fall, we've got to deliver for the American people on this issue and so many others.

01:57:12.980 And we're going to. So that's that's the next battle.

01:57:18.200 I have one minute left.

01:57:19.380 I have to ask you, are we are we going to war?

01:57:24.020 Do you foresee going to war in Ukraine and in Europe with this?

01:57:31.080 Not immediately, because one, we're not going to send troops there.

01:57:35.440 We will send military aid to them and we're going to continue to do that.

01:57:39.320 But Putin won't push beyond Ukraine now.

01:57:43.220 He'll get in there, get a puppet government set up and slowly start his disinformation campaign in the next country.

01:57:49.380 So it's not something that's going to happen tonight.

01:57:52.140 But but we are at war with them in a sense.

01:57:55.840 You think of military kinetic war, but there's also informational war, diplomatic war, economic war.

01:58:02.580 All of those other phases are ongoing now.

01:58:06.440 OK, thank you so much, Congressman.

01:58:08.520 And I I appreciate it.

01:58:10.020 Thanks for all your hard work.

01:58:11.100 That's Congressman Mark Green from from Tennessee.

01:58:15.100 All right.

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02:00:07.400 Watch out that no one deceives you.

02:00:14.580 You're going to hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see that you're not alarmed.

02:00:21.360 Such things must happen.

02:00:23.120 Nations will rise against nations, kingdom against kingdom, famines, earthquakes in various places.

02:00:29.500 All of these are the beginning of birth pains.

02:00:32.560 I have been talking about birth pains mainly because I am just gained so much weight.

02:00:40.360 I feel like I'm going to have a baby at any point.

02:00:43.300 But birth pains start far apart and then they get closer and closer.

02:00:50.500 And you can see these accelerating.

02:00:53.960 There's a lot yet more to come, but we're giving birth to something.

02:00:58.320 And I don't think we're going to like Rosemary's baby when she comes out.

02:01:02.980 But we are getting closer and closer.

02:01:06.320 That's why things seem like they are speeding up.

02:01:09.120 They are.

02:01:10.340 The pains are becoming closer and closer as we get closer and closer to a new world order or whatever it is we're giving birth to.

02:01:20.780 Do not be deceived and do not be alarmed.

02:01:25.160 These things must happen and we're going to be fine as long as we have faith, truth, and one another.

02:01:35.620 With that being said, let me ask, Stu.

02:01:39.960 The odds of Joe Biden in his speech about Ukraine, the odds of him using the word dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.

02:01:50.620 What do you suppose?

02:01:52.100 Very high.

02:01:52.960 It's very popular in the office pool right now.

02:01:55.360 Yeah.

02:01:55.560 Okay.

02:01:55.980 Good.

02:01:56.160 Taking the over on six uses of high-milton flag.

02:02:04.720 You're the Canadian.

02:02:06.580 I think he might use the Canadian.

02:02:08.860 These are the times, Glenn.

02:02:19.240 These are the times you wish you had a president that could complete a sentence.

02:02:23.180 Yeah.

02:02:23.740 Yeah.

02:02:24.240 Or just think clearly.

02:02:27.420 Or just be up after eight o'clock when bombings begin.

02:02:33.140 You know, one of those would be nice.

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The Glenn Beck Program - February 24, 2022

Russia Invaded Ukraine： What It All Means ｜ Guests： Benjamin Teitelbaum & Rep. Mark Green ｜ 2⧸24⧸22

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