'Sit Down and Take It？' - 4⧸27⧸18
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 54 minutes
Words per Minute
157.2388
Summary
Bill Cosby has been sentenced to 10 years in prison for aggravated indecent assault, a charge that carries a maximum penalty of 10 years and a fine of up to $25,000 per count. Glenn Beck reacts to the verdict and talks about how the Me Too movement played a role in the verdict.
Transcript
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It's 1989. A crowd has gathered around a mystic who claims she can see the future.
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The crowd is silent. All you can hear is the plastic rattle of the woman's bracelets and beads as she gyrates her hands around a crystal ball.
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In a feather boa headdress, she concentrates her attention, face contorting, her eyes closed.
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Heel-clicking slippers that came with an Aladdin costume.
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The bulbous-necked lady scatters some glittery dirt around the ancient table.
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Stopping halfway to pull another handful out of a purple satiny crown royal satchel with a gold-painted drawstring.
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You have come from the future with startling news?
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Bruce Jenner will become the world's first conservative feminist.
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Michael Jackson, he'll turn into a frail white woman who wanders a circus-like home with chimpanzees and Macaulay Culkin.
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He warmly invited us into his home, and we invited him into ours.
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He's an inspiration to everyone, but especially young black children who were able to see a version of themselves that had never existed on TV.
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The Huxtable family was an emblem of achievement.
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Teachers followed and showed Fat Albert and the Cosby kids in class.
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Apparently, for years, it was another open secret in Hollywood.
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But strangely, Cosby's downfall began at a comedy show with a joke.
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Their stories were horrifying and hard to believe.
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The allegations spread across decades, but he denied them.
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Some of them were all too old to take to court, but a handful were not.
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And as Cosby dodged his lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, the Cosby accusations sparked a social movement that continued to capsize every industry.
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And yesterday, Bill Cosby, when I see it, went to prison.
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Now 80 years old, he gripped whomever was beside him as he walked into his room.
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He faced three counts of aggravated, indecent assault for drugging and sexually assaulting.
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Cosby faces 10 years now, but will remain on bail until sentencing.
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Then, as if that weren't enough disgrace, Cosby got nasty.
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He's always prided himself as the stand-up comedian who doesn't curse.
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He urged kids to speak well and be respectable.
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When District Attorney Kevin Steele asked the judge to revoke the $1 million bail, calling him a flight risk,
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And apparently the way his face looked, full of nasty rage, was startling.
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How is this the same man who made funny faces when kids said the darndest things?
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How is this the same man that had been given enough honorary degrees to fill a museum?
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A man so wholesome that he could make all of us feel good about eating pudding.
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Well, actually, that probably wasn't that hard.
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The spirits tell me it was only a character, a disguise for a gullyful monster.
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Do you remember when I used to say you won't recognize your country?
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I didn't think Bill Cosby was part of that, but apparently now so is Tom Brokaw.
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Yesterday, the news came out about Bill Cosby going to jail.
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And one of the reporters asked, how much does the Me Too movement play a role in the verdict?
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Yeah, this is a disturbing, interesting question.
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Because I think we all understand, first of all, if Bill Cosby is guilty of these things, it's great that he's in prison.
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It's interesting that his, you know, sort of prosecution here was made sort of as a campaign promise.
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What I thought interesting about that question, though, in particular, because it was asked all over the place, what impact did the Me Too movement have on this verdict?
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They already tried this case and there was a mistrial.
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They went back to the court and got multiple additional witnesses.
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So initially, obviously, typically, they're thinking, well, this is about this case.
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Last time they let one additional accuser testify.
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But one of them is is one of them now being pursued for for perjury.
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Steele also raised the possibility that Marguerite Margo Jackson, the defense's star witness.
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Oh, maybe investigated for perjury after the prosecution strongly implied her statement had been created and coached out of her by defense counsel.
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The issue here, though, is the Me Too movement is an interesting part of this because that was the talk afterwards, the analysis.
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What did the Me Too movement have to do before this last trial?
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Then the Me Too movement happens and then they get the verdict.
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Well, that should have absolutely nothing to do with this trial.
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This is a trial is about whether one person did something to someone else.
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It's not about whether guys in general are bad.
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It's not about whether Harvey Weinstein did a bunch of terrible things to people.
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Now, look, looking at the evidence, I think it's probably right that he's going to prison for this.
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It certainly seems like there's an incredible amount of evidence.
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But the idea that attitudes generally change in society should have no effect on a man's innocence or guilt.
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The it is a supposed to be a really cold transaction.
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You go to court and there is a very sober look at facts.
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And then afterwards, you come up with a verdict of whether one person, Bill Cosby, did this terrible thing to one other person.
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Not whether, you know, Louis C.K. did something and whether, you know, name the actor or actress you want to, actor or producer you want to put into this.
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The bottom line is like, if that is true, that that had an effect on this trial, he didn't get justice.
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But again, you don't try these things in the court of public opinion.
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Tom Brokaw, apparently an NBC correspondent says that Tom Brokaw made unwanted advances toward toward her two decades ago, groping and trying to forcibly kiss her.
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Linda Vester, who covered the Middle East and Africa for NBC, later joined Fox News, was in her 20s.
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The time that she says Brokaw made the advances.
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He said, I met with Linda Vester on two occasions, both at her request 23 years ago, because she wanted advice with respect to her career at NBC.
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The meetings were brief, cordial, and appropriate.
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And despite Linda's allegations, I made no romantic overtures toward her at that time or any other.
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She said, while I was standing there in the Denver bureau with my back to the door from behind me out of nowhere, Tom Brokaw walked up, put his hands on my waist and tickled me up and down my waist.
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I jumped a foot and looked at the editor of the nightly news in the eye.
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There was nothing I could do or say because I was so low on the totem pole.
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I hadn't heard that before, but I mean, you know, you're right.
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There's more, there's more, but I just want to take this piece by piece.
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I didn't work for his broadcast, but when the most powerful man of the network sends you a computer message, you answer him.
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According to Variety, she's speaking out because she believes her story sheds light on the culture of NBC news.
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She described another incident in New York when Brokaw insisted on visiting her in her hotel room and then twice tried to kiss her.
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Well, that's, that's again, uh, inappropriate, uh, you know, trying to kiss in the hotel room, uh, you know, unwanted, not, not a good idea.
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Uh, no, um, I would, I would, I would agree again, if she felt that way and we weren't there, we have no idea taking just though on those, on the, on the accusations, or at least that you've just outlined.
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They seem obviously probably not a good idea, especially for someone who's powerful at a network to do something like that.
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Um, but again, if you know, there had a kiss has to have a consent, right?
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Like that, that, that consent is almost always implied and not verbal, right?
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Do you say, excuse me, madam, might I kiss you?
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Like, that's not typically how humans interact, right?
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I, I, I think I, I, I don't know if this is entirely true, but I tried to ask, uh, you know, anybody I've kissed before.
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Um, and so I, uh, no, I know it's, and I'm not very effective.
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So I'm just, I'm just, you know, I, but I, there are moments, I guess you, where you could do, I mean, I probably did it at some point.
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Um, but again, like typically, you know, right?
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The point is, you know, that's why I ask, because I never know.
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And instead of just saying, yes, I told you I, I had that point of view or whatever.
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No, no, because apparently the, uh, library of Congress in 2006 archived her website, I
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think along with everybody else's and, uh, shows now that apparently these hackers were
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so thorough that they not only hacked her site, you know, so they could release this
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stuff now, but they also went back in time and hacked the copy in 2006 that the library
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Uh, cause now their claim rests on the fact that it was not hacked today when you could
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at least understand in theory why someone would want to ruin her career because she's a kind
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And back then though, it's like she was fairly unknown, even locally.
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And someone would have had to hack with similar things that she was actually writing and admitted
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Like if you're going to hack someone, you're going to do something that they wouldn't normally
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You wouldn't just continue writing in the same style with the same stuff.
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Um, and they picked six pictures that they said were, uh, altered.
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So screenshots, they didn't even exist on the site.
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Well, now people have gone back and found that they, those pictures, those excerpts did
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There was another part where some of the, the blog posts were tagged with things like,
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uh, you know, uh, you know, gay issues or something.
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And they looked back at it and it wasn't, it was a third party site that did that, um,
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without their knowledge, had nothing to do with them.
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That another site saw the post at the time and tagged it gay issues.
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There was another, they found a comment about one of her posts on a different website at
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These hackers are very thorough, very thorough.
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They're very thorough, very thorough, very thorough.
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Um, we have a really fascinating person, uh, who has quite the story to tell coming up next.
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How would you feel if the government just came in and said, oh yeah, your house is mine.
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You know, I'm, I'm very much, I'm very much focused right now on, uh, talking to people
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who have actually witnessed firsthand history, real history.
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I saw a, uh, a video clip on YouTube the other day of a man who witnessed, uh, the, uh, the
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And it was on an old show in the 1950s called I've got a secret.
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And this old 90 year old guy, uh, stepped to the plate and he was five years old.
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All he remembered was Booth jumping out of the presidential box and breaking his leg on
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And it was such a fascinating thing that, you know, wow.
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Few years ago, I found the story of Tokyo Rose and how she was wronged and how all of
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And, uh, I wish I would have talked to her cause she had just died.
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Well, there's somebody else that has played a huge role in our country's history.
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Not that she meant to, uh, her name is Suzette Kilo, the Kilo case.
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She is the woman who bought a little house, painted it pink, was in love with it.
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And the city came and said, yeah, we're going to take your house eminent domain because we're
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going to give it to this giant corporation or we're going to build a hotel there and they'll
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It's an amazingly true story of a small town paramedic that left a bad marriage, buys a
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house, paints it pink, and then tries to stop it from being bulldozed by the city.
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She loses that case, but she has changed history because she stood.
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Uh, she's, um, her story is being told in the film, little pink house.
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Also, um, uh, Courtney Moorhead Ballaker is with us.
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She's the writer, director, and producer of the movie.
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Suzette, I, since we, we reached out last week and, and I saw the movie and, uh, I thought,
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You, you've done very few interviews I've, I've heard.
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Can you just tell the story a little bit on what it felt like to have somebody knock
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at your door and say, we're going to take your house?
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Well, I, I guess you could say it's, um, it's like your, your worst nightmare, right?
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So, you know, here we are just living in this little neighborhood, myself and my neighbors.
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The, uh, the, the articles in the paper, of course, started first.
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And then, um, as time went on, real estate agents came forward, uh, whether they were
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working independently or for, um, the London Development Corporation, you know, or both.
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And, you know, saying that, you know, we'd like to buy your house and, um, you know, do
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And, and, and that's pretty much what, how it came, how it, how it happened.
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And to say the first time is, you know, no, I'm not interested in selling it.
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And the second time to come back and be confronted with, if you don't sell it, you're going to
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At that point, you had to have thought, cause I know I would have, you can't do that.
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I, you know, what she was standing on the porch and what, when she came in and I asked
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her a similar question as to the brooch and saying, you know, the value of something
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And, and, you know, she, she got what I was talking about.
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And, and then I told her, I said, don't come back.
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Cause if you come back, I'll throw you off the porch.
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And when you heard the Supreme court rule against you, what happened?
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Well, we, we, we, we, as a group knew that if they didn't rule in our favor that, you
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know, we would have to leave, but we never in a million years ever thought it would happen.
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And it was almost, you know, I, I describe it as like everything in the beginning, we
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started as a little grassroots, um, um, you know, group saying, you know, you know, if
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we, if we write this letter to the editor, perhaps all this will stop, or if we, I go
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So, you know, every time that something happened that we did, the neighbor, I met myself and
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my neighbors just, just prayed that the eminent domain would stop.
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And when, and when IJ took the case, we said, okay, now this is going to stop it, but it
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just continued with, with, with, you know, not going in our favor.
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And, and, and again, when it went to the United States Supreme Court, we said, okay, now it's
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So, so Suzanne, when you, when it's all said and done, I remember, I mean, there were
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a few, I think the year was 1995 that I started really questioning what, how are
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When I saw, um, OJ Simpson, uh, go free, when I saw Timothy McVeigh blow up the federal
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building the same year, I remember thinking, I don't know if I know my country.
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Do you feel the same about the country as you did before?
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Well, you know, we, we, we used to say it's the group that here, here we are in this
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little neighborhood, we're minding our own business, we're going to work every day, we're
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law-abiding citizens, we're paying our taxes, we maintain our property, and that's what
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I often referred to, when I spoke to public officials, I often, often said that the wolves
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are at our door, we're being threatened in our own arms.
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And, um, so, so there's, and, and the way I, I often, uh, answer a question, a question
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like this is, we're fortunate, we live in a country where we could fight, but we're, it's
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unbelievable that we were pushed to have to fight, I guess.
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Um, and the fact that nobody has built anything on your property, and it's still sitting now
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empty and unattended with zero tax dollars going into the city, how's that make you feel?
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Well, you know, really, that's our just desert, that's our just desert, you know, we're, that's
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our victory, as, as the neighbors in the, in that neighborhood, as the people that were
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there, that's our victory, that nothing came there.
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And, you know what I mean, in the sense of, look what you did, and you did it all for
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nothing, and, you know, it's, and that's, and that's, for us, it's our just desert, it
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Uh, Courtney, you're the, the writer, the producer, and the director of this film.
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I thought you told the story really, really well, uh, and it was, it was really well done.
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When, when you, when you saw this story, what made you think, oh, I, I have to tell this
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story, and this is going to be something people are going to want to go see.
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First of all, I was completely outraged when I read the book, A Little Pink House, written
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It's a fantastic book that documented the entire ordeal.
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It was a 10-year, uh, you know, time span for Suzette and her neighbors from when she
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bought her house, fixed it up, painted it pink, to the time when the Supreme Court decision
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I, I could not believe that something like this happened, that something like this was
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considered legal by the United States Supreme Court.
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And the other reason I had to make the film was because I was blown away by Suzette's stance,
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her, her principled position to say, no, you can't do this.
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Suzette didn't want to be the, the public face of this issue.
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She didn't want to, uh, you know, be a crusader.
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She, she did this completely outside of her comfort zone.
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And I was really inspired by her resistance and her integrity.
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And, and I felt like America needed to see what happened in this town, not only to, to
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show how horrible cronyism is, but that it still happens all over the country.
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And we want to use the film to bring awareness to that and hopefully bring an end to it.
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Was there any artistic license taken, uh, Suzette, with your story?
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I mean, I, you had to have been, um, I mean, boy, you had some rough years.
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You leave a bad marriage, um, you find a house, you fix it up.
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You fall in love with a decent guy who, who, you know, you eventually marry, but he is,
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Just because it was the right thing to do for the fight for the fort where we were.
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I mean, that was, you know, was the, was the right thing to do.
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And, um, just, you know, I, perseverance, I just kept plowing forward.
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Courtney, I can't, uh, it's hard to believe a movie like this could get made because, you
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know, we're, we, we see the way Hollywood kind of treats a lot of these stories and they,
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they don't, they don't want to tell stories like this where the government is doing things
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And, and these are real constitutional issues where you're teaching, you know, America
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in a, in an, in an interesting and entertaining way, a really sad story about what can do if
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How, how did, how did this movie even get made?
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I, you know, making any, uh, independent film is always, uh, an uphill battle.
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Uh, my husband and producing partner, Ted Ballacher and I, we formed our own company,
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Cortula Productions, and our motto is making important ideas entertaining.
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And we set out to make movies that, you know, basically do just that, that entertain, but
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inform and, and hopefully, uh, have, have an impact.
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And, um, you know, we, we could have gone to studios and try to partner with them, but
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it was very important to us to tell the truth and to make sure that the, the details of this
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This was not Pfizer knocking on doors, offering money to people to buy their homes.
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It was the city that wanted to push Suzette and her neighbors off of their land so that
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a developer could come in and build stuff that could benefit Pfizer.
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And, you know, that, that, that, that's, that's an important detail.
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It, I think, I think oftentimes, uh, Hollywood, you know, always wants to blame one entity.
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And it, as I mentioned earlier, it's about cronyism.
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When, when government and big corporations, uh, team up, the little guy loses and often politicians
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And that's not the case when it comes to eminent domain abuse.
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And so we wanted to make a film that accurately portrayed what happened in Suzette's neighborhood.
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And it, it was a challenge, but so far we have, uh, felt a lot of success and a lot of,
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and we've been embraced by, we, we sold out the, uh, the guard in new London, Connecticut.
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That was our world premiere on, uh, the 16th, 1500 people showed up and bought tickets.
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Uh, they're having encore performance and we're in several cities throughout the nation.
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And people can find out littlepinkhousemovie.com if, if we're playing in your city.
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And if we're not, you can bring the film to your town.
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And, you know, Glenn, we're finding that people are, this is really resonating with people
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because everybody knows what home is, whether you own a home or rent a home, everybody knows
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And, uh, we're very hopeful that audiences will, will continue to connect with Suzette,
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not only for what she did, but, um, for what she stands for.
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And as you said, it's a historic Supreme court decision.
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And it really, it really isn't millions of millions of homes.
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You, you did a, you did a fantastic job on telling the story.
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Uh, last one, Suzette, I, I grew up in Connecticut and spent many, uh, summer weekends at Ocean
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Beach Park, right down the, uh, street from where you, where the story is told.
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Uh, I'm curious is after all of this happened, did you decide to stay in the area?
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Well, um, myself and my neighbors, we all bought a home in, uh, other towns.
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And, um, it's heartbreaking to, um, see New London, uh, do what it does to itself, you
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Yeah, I guess you could say we were definitely frustrated.
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And, um, like you said, unfortunately we lost and we all had to, you know, um, you know,
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By the way, Connecticut continues to do the same thing, uh, and they are driving people
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Last night, I gave a speech for a celebration of Israel's 70th at the studio last night.
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He told a story about, do you know why Yemen and Sudan are named, where they got their names?
00:37:06.600
When you really understand history, everything just kind of snaps into place.
00:37:15.880
There is so much to go over with Bill O'Reilly from the border mess that is coming.
00:37:22.700
The caravan is going to happen this weekend on the border here in California.
00:38:01.240
But with the way we become so desensitized to the sanctity of human life, does anyone even
00:38:12.520
But since 2009, the United States is averaging 700,000 abortions per year.
00:38:18.580
We're only four months into this year, and we've already killed 298,000 babies.
00:38:23.460
Just this morning, over 700 abortions have been committed in the United States.
00:38:28.980
Now think about that number, and then try to answer that question, whether we even understand
00:38:37.420
We should probably decide this pretty quickly, because we're seeing in the U.S.
00:38:41.780
Or, I'm sorry, in the U.K. with Alfie Evans, what we're seeing there is going to come here
00:38:48.820
Democrats are poised to make big gains over the next two years, and they've already signaled
00:38:53.020
that single-payer health care is going to be their top-ticket item.
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And in the U.K., they're considered by progressives as the gold standard when it comes to single-payer
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America, you need to ask yourself right now, is that the kind of health care you want?
00:39:12.280
If you want to know what they want for all of us, all you have to do is look across to
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Alder Hay Hospital is not only denying Alfie medical care, Alfie Evans, his two-year-old kid,
00:39:30.140
but they won't even let his parents take him home to die, let alone just put him on a helicopter
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that the Pope has provided and let him go to another country, Italy, to be able to be possibly
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They're now saying that unless his parents have a, quote, sea-change in attitude, they're
00:39:56.520
Their son is dying, the state is killing him, and they expect Alfie's parents to have a good
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As it turns out, Alder Hay Hospital has a long history of treating their patients as little
00:40:16.840
In 1998, a heart specialist at Alder Hay accidentally revealed during an inquiry that the hospital
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Now, these organs were being held without consent from the parents.
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Alder Hay Hospital was harvesting the organs from dead children.
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They were also caught selling human tissue to pharmaceutical companies in exchange for cash
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Alder Hay had 2,080 children's hearts, over 800 other organs, 400 full fetuses.
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A pathologist at Alder Hay was even accused of keeping the head of a baby in a jar.
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And none of this was done with parental consent.
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When the story came out finally in 2001, distraught parents begged for their baby's organs to be turned
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One woman had to bury her baby's heart, lungs, and esophagus.
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You see, this is what you get when the state controls health care.
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This is what you get when there's no higher authority.
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This is what you get when you have to sit down and take it.
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How long does it take for the state to see its people not as human beings, but as a resource,
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And this is what the progressives want for us here in the U.S.
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Get ready, because the debate for single-payer health care is coming.
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And when that debate begins, you better believe they won't mention the story of Alder Hay Hospital
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The one and the only Bill O'Reilly is joining us now.
00:42:26.980
Bill, any thoughts on this hospital and what's happening over in England?
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You know, this isn't the first time that the British authorities have basically said
00:42:38.380
our posture is that if a child or an elderly person cannot survive, if we deem that to
00:42:48.060
be true, then we're not going to do anything to elongate the life.
00:42:56.700
The atrocity, though, is that, as you pointed out, the Vatican said, look, we'll care for the
00:43:02.380
You know, we believe that life is sacred and there's a cycle of life, birth and death,
00:43:09.960
and that we'll take care of the child at our expense.
00:43:12.640
So why would the British authorities say, no, you can't do that?
00:43:20.040
But I want to address your remarks about America.
00:43:23.780
America, you know, we live in a climate now where there are a substantial number of American
00:43:30.820
citizens who simply reject any kind of debate or any kind of alternative view on abortion.
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And then you look at them and you go, how could you possibly know?
00:43:52.360
And human DNA and all of the science says that life begins on conception and 95% of
00:43:58.380
the doctors in the United States will not perform abortions because of that.
00:44:09.120
95%, according to the AMA, of American doctors will not do the procedure.
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But if you present the evidence, then you're misogynist.
00:44:25.600
And the New York Times has taken the lead on this.
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They're the lead media outlet that promotes abortion as a civil right.
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Not an issue to be, as Bill Clinton once said, you know, rare.
00:44:41.860
We should be, everybody should be going together to make abortion rare.
00:44:58.400
And when she gets pregnant, she just goes down and has an abortion that Planned Parenthood
00:45:08.240
And you've got to, you know, to get people's attention to talk about something this horrendous
00:45:15.400
Because we live in an age of narcissism where people don't want to pay attention to that.
00:45:22.800
Because I don't know if you saw what the police have put out, but they issued a tweet that said,
00:45:31.600
I would like to make people aware that these posts are being monitored and remind social
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media users that any offenses, including malicious communications and threatening behavior,
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will be investigated where necessary and it will be acted upon.
00:45:45.780
That's not the only one that they put out yesterday.
00:45:48.800
They put out a few of these saying, we're watching your social media and we will come
00:45:58.760
This is getting more and more Big Brother-esque and controlling of the life.
00:46:07.960
Let me just jump in here and put it into some kind of perspective.
00:46:11.000
I don't disagree that the British authorities could not care less about the life cycle.
00:46:21.780
I mean, their main religion is the Anglican faith founded by that great theologian, Henry
00:46:30.680
So, I don't want to be disparaging, but they don't care about religion.
00:46:34.620
But what the police did was, because of this hospital, the people running the hospital
00:46:41.260
are, now have been threatened, their lives have been threatened, and that's what this
00:46:48.900
So, I would like to know what you would do, Bill O'Reilly, if you had baby, you know,
00:47:00.100
I have a friend, Graham Barker, who is a physician in Great Britain.
00:47:07.300
He doesn't take government subsidies of any kind.
00:47:15.540
But say that you're not Bill O'Reilly's, you know, wallet.
00:47:26.860
Because this is not the first time this has happened.
00:47:29.620
So, as soon as the diagnosis came down from the hospital that your baby's going to die
00:47:34.480
and we're not going to elongate the baby's life under any circumstances, the next day
00:47:39.520
I would have been on a plane or a train to Italy and to appeal to the Vatican.
00:47:53.120
Well, I don't think it's coming here for constitutional reasons.
00:47:56.620
I don't think you're ever going to have euthanasia here.
00:47:59.100
I don't think you're ever going to have a system whereby the government prevents you
00:48:06.540
from going to Rome to save your baby or elongate the baby's life.
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I don't think you'll ever have that because of constitutional issues.
00:48:13.660
Our Constitution is much stronger than Britain.
00:48:17.380
So, but what I think that there is going to be a struggle about, and it's a shame,
00:48:26.280
Because if you are pro-life, if your religion or your morality dictates that you believe
00:48:34.100
a baby is a human being on conception, now it's allowed that the other side can attack
00:48:48.980
We live in a society, the Supreme Court has ruled Roe v. Wade that abortion is the law,
00:48:55.540
okay, but to attack people, to try to harm them because they hold it a poison point of
00:49:00.220
view, as the liberal media does, is disgraceful.
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Also, earlier this week, I talked to Dave Rubin about abortion.
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He's a guy who used to describe himself as a progressive a year ago.
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He started down this road, and he is still pro-choice.
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But we had a fascinating conversation about he recognizes that he's being hypocritical in
00:49:26.840
some ways, and he kind of hinted that I know I'm going to be moving at some point.
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We have to cover the end of the Korean War, which, much to many people's surprise, is still
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We have so much to talk to Bill O'Reilly about before the end of the hour.
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Bill Cosby, the migrant caravan that's on our border now.
00:51:50.400
Bill, let's start with the end of the Korean War last night.
00:51:53.100
Yeah, the reason this happened, I just posted this on BillOReilly.com, message of the day, Beck,
00:52:00.240
which I know you eagerly read each morning to imbue yourself with wisdom.
00:52:14.700
So, the Chinese told the little rocket man, hey, you're bad for business, bud, and you're going to knock it off.
00:52:22.500
And if you don't knock it off, we're stopping the oil flow into your little kingdom there,
00:52:27.480
and everything will collapse, and you will be killed.
00:52:32.460
So that's what the Chinese said to the little rocket guy.
00:52:36.340
So he pulled up his short pants, and he said, I better do something here.
00:52:44.600
So I'll get back in the spotlight by seeming to be reasonable.
00:52:49.300
First, I'll agree to meet with President Trump, which is like a big win for me,
00:52:54.340
because I'm no one, but he's the most famous person in the world now.
00:52:59.340
And secondly, I'll run across the militarized border and embrace my counterpart in South Korea
00:53:08.840
All of this is happening to fulfill the narcissism of little rocket guy.
00:53:14.840
But that's okay, because it's a benefit to the world if it all plays out.
00:53:21.220
And I think it will, because China has had enough.
00:53:23.560
They don't want the world economy roiled because of this little nut.
00:53:30.900
So what does it mean, the end of the Korean War?
00:53:34.840
The Korean War was never really, there was never a treaty.
00:53:44.440
I mean, after World War II, the communist North and the capitalist South faced off,
00:53:53.120
And America came into the war on the side of South Korea.
00:54:02.340
So now it looks like little rocket guy is going to ask for a formal end to the war,
00:54:14.220
Is this like an end to the wall, or do you think that remains?
00:54:21.600
But the problem for little rocket guy is, and why I don't think the wall will come down,
00:54:26.840
is because as soon as it comes down, everybody in North Korea will leave.
00:54:34.460
And South Korea doesn't want that, because then they'd have to feed them all.
00:54:40.240
So it'll probably still remain the same, but the level of threat from North Korea will
00:54:52.160
If you're going to use the nickname, shouldn't you use it with the Elton John song?
00:54:58.900
Yeah, I like that better than Rocket Man, because I don't consider this guy a man.
00:55:03.780
A real man doesn't murder people and doesn't starve his own population.
00:55:10.240
So Little Rocket Guy, I think, is just even more insulting.
00:55:15.740
Part two, the second part of this is, if you have, are you concerned that everyone declares
00:55:23.140
peace in our time, we pull out our troops, everyone's out, both down their defenses, and
00:55:28.000
then North Korea can go into South Korea without any opposition?
00:55:31.720
Well, we're not going to pull our troops out, number one.
00:55:35.220
Because you just need them there strategically.
00:55:42.220
And, you know, look, the guy, you know, he's crazy, could do anything.
00:55:50.320
Of course, that's why the liberal media is playing it down.
00:55:57.600
And then, look, the best thing that Kim Jong-un could have done, as I pointed out on BillOReilly.com,
00:56:20.080
How do you not recognize this as a Trump victory?
00:56:31.060
Because China knows that Trump is going to give them a hard time unless they cooperate on North Korea and the trade imbalance.
00:56:43.980
They can do whatever they want when Obama's in Hawaii.
00:56:47.360
Isn't the reason, though, that we don't recognize it as a Trump victory,
00:56:59.240
I'm telling you, you go out now and you talk to the American public about,
00:57:17.780
That's the only time North Korea ever gets covered is when Rodman went over there.
00:57:21.900
Yeah, I mean, I think they threatened that he was going to go back,
00:57:31.520
With that analysis, Beck, I think that's the best.
00:57:38.320
And I take a little bit of umbrage, if you will, with Stu here on,
00:57:44.520
it's not really a Trump victory because it's not done yet.
00:57:51.640
But it is movement that we have never seen before.
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And you know if anyone else were president, we would not be seeing this movement.
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So we have Bill O'Reilly on, and I would like to ask him,
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no bloviating, bloviating word of the day, Bill.
00:59:35.280
Let's start with the migrant caravan that has now reunited in Tijuana,
00:59:42.320
and they're planning on crossing the border together this weekend
00:59:55.560
You don't think that America is going to have to get involved
00:59:59.840
in something like what's happening with the Palestinians?
01:00:03.400
I think that the Mexican government, again, this is because of Trump,
01:00:10.340
And NAFTA is being renegotiated, as you know, right now.
01:00:14.420
So those people are, you know, they'll have brunch,
01:00:18.000
Why wouldn't the Mexican government have stopped it beforehand?
01:00:24.280
They broke it up in central Mexico, and there's, you know,
01:00:43.760
and they're not going to let these people get to the border.
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that the demonstrators won't even get close to the border.
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She first said that she has made homophobic statements in the past.
01:01:21.120
that this would have had to be a really sophisticated hacker
01:01:29.300
went and archived all of the blogs at the time in 2006,
01:01:44.120
either broke into the National Archives as well,
01:01:56.760
So now we have a far-left person who doesn't like gays,
01:02:09.500
You know, NBC is probably going to just ease her out.
01:02:14.560
But that's usually what happens in these big organizations.
01:02:22.560
other than she's lost credibility among her core believers,
01:03:13.200
because nobody was there other than the principals
01:03:22.260
the other bit of wisdom that I gave you and Stu
01:03:25.640
was that every single prosperous man in this country
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Not one man in America who's prosperous is not at risk.
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Now, I don't know what happened with Tom Brokaw.
01:03:54.320
I always feel bad when lives are disrupted this way,
01:04:18.820
I mean, they did some pretty underhanded things,
01:04:23.920
from what I can see as a journalist covering it.
01:04:27.600
It doesn't seem there would be a significant line
01:04:36.800
Secondly, you know, we've had a lot of accusations
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it's up to the authorities to bring these cases,
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have given away millions and millions of dollars.
01:06:21.400
I have never taken a cent from that foundation.
01:06:37.780
because my attorneys were giving them all the documents
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I haven't seen anybody in the Justice Department
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Right, but this isn't even the Clinton Foundation,
01:08:06.400
Both presidents have spoken highly of this man.
01:34:08.420
But I'm astounded that you you stayed online to
01:34:12.040
But OK, to answer your to answer your question.
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they would turn into the Red Sea and then go up
01:34:38.740
to the southern tip of Israel, which is now a lot.
01:34:42.040
And there were there were copper mines there, but
01:34:44.040
there were all kind of basically Israel was the
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I mean, everybody, although they were obviously
01:35:00.640
to this day, Somalia and Yemen, which are on either
01:35:04.520
side of the Straits as you enter the Red Sea, were
01:35:08.840
named by people after the Hebrew words for left and
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As you're heading up north, Somalia is on the left and
01:35:16.080
the Hebrew word for left is Somal and Yemen is on the
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And of course, the Hebrew word for right is Yemen.
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You're naming countries, whole lands is it's I had no idea
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Look, I mean, Somalia has raised barbaric piracy to obscene
01:35:50.160
So I'm not sure they're spending an awful lot of time delving
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into the demographics and study of their language and culture.
01:36:00.420
But I mean, yeah, it's known by people who know these things.
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And and then I pointed out that, you know, I listed in a number
01:36:09.220
of cities after speaking of Mombasa, I said, there's, you know,
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there's there's Naples, there's there's Oslo, there's Paris,
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there's Quebec City, there's Rome, there's Stockholm, there's
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But the main point was that all these cities are on water.
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never mind 200 years, but 2000 years is Jerusalem, which is
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She was also the one who brought us the, you know, really good Libyan and Syria council.
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Yeah, the former U.S. ambassador as well to the U.N.
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Did you see that Nikki Haley is now the most popular politician in America?
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She's, she's, there have been three, there have been, with her now, three, I think,
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outrageously great U.N. ambassadors in my lifetime.
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Gene Kirkpatrick, John Bolton, and, and, and now Nikki Haley.
01:39:03.680
You forgot Sam Power, though, of course, obviously you meant to include her in this group.
01:39:12.620
In retrospect, I wish we hadn't gone to Congress with the, the, at the, in the red line moment
01:39:23.400
You know, I think that was actually a really pivotal moment where we knew prior to that point
01:39:31.480
that Obama, many of Obama's critics were not at the level, you know, that things they were for
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on a Monday, if Obama was for them on a Tuesday, they were then against them on a Wednesday.
01:39:43.260
And yet, that decision to go to Congress was made, and people don't, a lot of people don't believe this,
01:39:50.360
but in good faith, in believing that given the number of people who, in response to this monstrous attack
01:39:56.940
on 1,500 people, including several hundred kids, so many people have come out kind of calling for the president
01:40:04.040
to act, you know, criticizing him for being feckless, and, and then the president turned around and said,
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okay, here, this is what I want to do, now we can do this together, and, and they basically, you know,
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kind of, you know, went for the, ran for the exits.
01:40:21.240
I mean, you should go to Congress with these things.
01:40:24.160
Yeah, she is, but her surprise, her surprise that Congress would be spineless is, is hard to believe.
01:40:37.240
You know, I think this happens, though, at times.
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I think the same thing kind of happened with Trump and Comey.
01:40:41.640
You know, at the time, everyone was calling for his firing.
01:40:44.680
You know, the left and the right, both didn't like him, and they were all calling.
01:40:49.200
The left was on the front lines for calling for him to be fired, and as soon as he fired him,
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I think they actually, Trump fired Comey with the idea that, generally speaking, it would be well-received,
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because so many people were out there saying he should be fired.
01:41:04.800
And so Trump fires him, and then they immediately turn their opinion around to the exact opposite
01:41:10.000
and then started criticizing him for it, which, you know, I mean, at some level,
01:41:17.820
But I think that does happen with administrations.
01:41:19.980
They may have gone into the Syria thing thinking they could get that through Congress, and they didn't.
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But when you don't, you have to understand, A, there's consequences to that, and, B, you don't just go do it anyway.
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And I think every president seems to have forgotten that lesson.
01:41:56.340
As they approached the vehicle, they smelled marijuana.
01:41:59.160
Well, they said, step out of the car, and they searched the car.
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And they found cocaine and marijuana in separate bags inside of a purse
01:42:08.620
The police said, you know, what about the cocaine?
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And she said, quote, I don't know anything about any cocaine, but it is a windy day, officer.
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I believe it must have flown through the window and into my purse.
01:42:29.740
Apparently, the police didn't buy that, and she's in jail today.
01:42:42.020
No, I don't think that's exactly what happened there.
01:42:45.100
I like this story, Glenn, because this is something I think you and I can unite on.
01:42:59.040
You know, you have a—it's like camaraderie of your community.
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Maybe you have a snack afterwards and, you know, refreshments.
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It's a nice way, I think, towns can build, you know, some community spirit and some camaraderie.
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No, it is nothing but a communist or European scheme to get us all to adopt the metric system.
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Because I thought the reason might be, you know, you'd have to run 5K.
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My second is I am in such a highly tuned physical shape that I think 5K is a little too much.
01:43:52.360
Because I think these events are actually kind of fun, with the exception of all that running.
01:43:57.380
You know, my wife runs them a lot, and I have been able to partake in these events, which is just—it winds up just being just the refreshments.
01:44:06.360
You know, you're kind of out and you have a bunch of refreshments, which I like it.
01:44:09.640
But they're actually solving this a little bit in Texas.
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The running—the entire distance of the race is 1,640 feet.
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Now, what you will get when you're there is, of course, beer.
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You will get a pint at the start of the race, which is—
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Do you have somebody just jam it into your hand halfway through the race, too?
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It feels like it's, like, one of those marathon people who get it from—I like that.
01:44:42.720
And then, also, you will get a pretentious .5K sticker to put on your windshield.
01:44:57.620
Oh, I hate those people that have those on their—
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I had a really fascinating conversation with Dave Rubin the other day here in Los Angeles, and I asked him, you know, how did the change happen?
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Because he's a guy who said, I used to be progressive.
01:47:12.860
A year ago, he proudly proclaimed himself as progressive.
01:47:19.660
I asked him, did you know what the word progressive really meant then?
01:47:28.640
Like, things are going to be better because they say nice things to people.
01:47:32.560
I wish I could give you a better answer to that.
01:47:35.080
Yeah, no, that's fine. I think that's where most people are until they find themselves in a point to where the pain one way or another of what they're doing.
01:47:42.820
I think we're fortunate because we have to have an opinion.
01:47:50.220
But because we have to have an opinion, hopefully, we look at everything we say at the end of the day and go, was that really right?
01:47:57.980
Yeah. And the real beauty of that, of course, is that the more you do it and the more years that go by, the rubber keeps meeting the road in different ways.
01:48:05.520
So suddenly you go, wait a minute, wait a minute.
01:48:08.580
But if I want to really be intellectually consistent, I'm going to have to reevaluate that.
01:48:23.280
Took everything out and said, I don't believe in anything.
01:48:30.720
Started reading, started really doing my own homework.
01:48:36.120
And then when I put another thing in that I thought I believed, if they were in conflict, wait a minute, one of these is wrong.
01:48:46.560
Your life becomes, I mean, it's five years at least of total hell.
01:48:54.900
Truth will set you free, but it'll make you miserable first.
01:49:00.360
But you then, once it all pulls into place, you have an easy time answering new questions.
01:49:09.680
Because you're like, oh, well, okay, well, it fits.
01:49:14.080
What's nice also, real quick, is that you will find that you will be a better person.
01:49:23.100
And I still sometimes fall into some old traps and have old habits and all of that.
01:49:26.920
But if you really start understanding this stuff and you understand why you think the way you do, you will try your damn hardest.
01:49:33.100
And we're all flawed, but you will try your damn hardest not to do those things.
01:49:36.700
So I think as I sit here at the moment, I'm the best person that I've been.
01:49:48.320
I can tell you I've never tried harder in my life to live up to the things that I'm talking about.
01:49:54.880
So have you gotten to a place to where there's a book that I read years ago called Blackmailed by History, and it was about McCarthy.
01:50:13.500
McCarthy, bad guy, the whole blacklisting thing.
01:50:16.180
Started reading it, and it's all very well footnoted.
01:50:19.160
And I started reading it, and I closed it because I thought, if I go any further in this book, if I'm going to be intellectually honest, it's going to change my opinion on all of these things.
01:50:37.500
And I decided I'm going to call and do my research on the author first, and then I want to call him, and I want to poke holes in him to see if he's a sound individual before I finish the book.
01:50:53.720
I believed in that, oh, America, and the government's, all that crap, you know what I mean?
01:51:03.800
Have you gotten to a place to where you thought, I don't know if I'm ready to look at that yet?
01:51:13.340
I don't know that I've gotten to places where it's, that I, I, I'm afraid to look, because I, I've been looking, and I have difficult conversations on my show every week.
01:51:21.700
And so, for example, I think one that we differ on is, I am, I describe myself as begrudgingly pro-choice.
01:51:27.760
I think it's a horrible decision that, that a woman would have to make.
01:51:36.220
Believe me, all my conservative friends say this.
01:51:39.600
So now, so now knowing that I respect you guys, and I know, and that you guys generally have clean way of thinking and all that, I have to see that.
01:51:46.760
That thing that caused you to close the book, I have to see that.
01:51:49.640
And, you know, when I had Ben Shapiro on my show, and he was making the pro-life argument, I was making the pro-choice argument.
01:51:54.760
And my argument is nuanced, and I talk about 20 weeks, because the fetus can then feel pain.
01:51:59.920
But I acknowledge, at the same time, I'm acknowledging, if you're saying it's a life at 20, it's obviously a life at 18.
01:52:04.940
I get the inconsistencies there, and my deference still goes to the woman who's here and now.
01:52:11.680
But we can do this again, and I know we will, for sure.
01:52:14.440
Look, I am, the one place that I know I'm inconsistent on is abortion.
01:52:19.660
Because I make the exception for rape and incest, and I shouldn't if I were going to be consistent.
01:52:28.120
But I can't, I just, and, you know, I just can't do it.
01:52:34.080
Right, but even the fact that you're acknowledging that shows that if you sat down here with the clearest pro-life thinker, they could probably get you there.
01:52:42.660
Because you're already acknowledging the inconsistency.
01:52:45.180
Now, that little inconsistency, what you believe as your personal humanity may override that logical inconsistency.
01:52:54.680
But we all live in that place, and that's why the media is so insane right now.
01:52:59.260
Where they say, if you're pro-life, you hate women, and if you're pro-choice, you hate children.
01:53:03.600
And it's like, no, you're all liars and frauds.
01:53:06.420
What is real is what is in your mind, and if you're a believer in a higher power, how you operate within that.
01:53:12.960
What is frustrating to me, I can sit down with anybody, as long as they're honest, and they can say what you just did.
01:53:19.600
Look, I know it's inconsistent, and I just said, I know it's inconsistent.
01:53:29.400
Where I can't live is when somebody says, I'm pro-choice all the way to the end.
01:53:37.440
Well, isn't that a child that it's halfway through?
01:53:45.960
You have to abort in the birth canal because the moment it comes out, it's illegal.
01:53:53.040
And, you know, where you will have politicians who will say, you know, I won't answer the question if my children were life, you know, and children before they were.
01:54:04.660
But, Glenn, think about what we just did right here in these three minutes, and this simply does not happen.
01:54:11.200
We both admitted inconsistencies in our own logic.
01:54:16.940
And if it does, please, anyone that's watching this, send me the people, and I will invite them.
01:54:20.800
And most likely I have invited them because I invite these people all the time.
01:54:24.660
But what I want, I'm not just going to have any crackpot that's just screaming all day long.
01:54:29.060
What I want is people that truly have a consistent set of views, even if those are completely antithetical to everything else that I do.