The Glenn Beck Program - 'Social Justice Postmodernism Madness'？ - 9⧸20⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:09.900 All right, you know, I'm torn.

00:00:16.780 Some days I want to live, some days I don't.

00:00:21.620 And, you know, the thought is, you know, it's really kind of nice, the sun's out, it's beautiful.

00:00:27.460 But then I have to look at the people that I live around.

00:00:34.400 Has everybody gone crazy?

00:00:39.260 Democrats, during the Kavanaugh hearings, at least are being transparent here.

00:00:48.620 Let's look at what's happening.

00:00:50.260 I'm amazed how the left is giving the entire country a direct insider look on how they go about business.

00:00:59.140 Look at the confirmation charade here.

00:01:02.180 It has everything.

00:01:03.780 It has mic check, mic check to shout down your opponents, political grandstanding to gain favor for future elections.

00:01:12.820 I mean, if you want to talk about virtue signaling, I am smart, Hikis.

00:01:20.400 Then, shady plots involving big money donors that are just advancing progressive agendas.

00:01:27.760 False accusations that we, at least, at least accusations that there's no way to prove them.

00:01:34.760 This is a look at social justice, period.

00:01:41.060 This is the way America is going to work.

00:01:44.180 If you fall in line with the left and you think, you know what, we got some real hope and change coming, this is it.

00:01:51.100 This is what your life is going to be like on all levels.

00:01:55.000 It's open for everyone to see.

00:01:57.200 They don't really even appear to, you know, give a crap about hiding it anymore.

00:02:02.860 Let's take the allegation from, you know, Dr. Ford.

00:02:09.880 Grassley has given Ford until tomorrow to commit to a testimony that will be conducted in the next 72 hours.

00:02:17.360 He wants it complete by Monday so they can move on with a committee vote.

00:02:22.980 But Ford and her lawyer are now delaying.

00:02:26.020 They want the FBI to do an investigation.

00:02:30.400 Okay, well, that's not the way the law works.

00:02:33.880 And by the way, maybe that's what should have happened in the first place.

00:02:38.140 Maybe when you had this accusation, you should have gone to the Maryland police before you wrote a letter to the good senator.

00:02:47.360 The good senator, when she got the letter, she should have said, Maryland state police, you should look into this.

00:02:53.980 It's a state crime, not a federal crime.

00:02:58.940 By the way, it's a state crime that appears to have a statute of limitations of one year.

00:03:04.760 But that's the way it works.

00:03:06.460 You don't come out and make this public accusation.

00:03:09.460 Lay out all of these charges have zero evidence and then say, oh, by the way, I'm going to let that smear hang out here.

00:03:20.520 I'm not going to answer a single question until the FBI do their job, which, by the way, this is not the FBI's job.

00:03:27.860 It's a delay tactic.

00:03:30.480 So why?

00:03:31.720 Of course we know why.

00:03:33.760 Democrats want this delayed as close to the November midterms as possible.

00:03:38.520 They study history just like everyone else.

00:03:41.300 When this nearly identical scenario happened with Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill back in 1991, it triggered what is now known as the year of the woman in the 1992 elections.

00:03:54.100 Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, was a product of that surge.

00:04:00.900 Let me say that one again.

00:04:03.440 Feinstein, you know, the woman who got the letter, whose peers office leaked the letter.

00:04:11.780 She got into office because of Anita Hill. 1.00

00:04:16.140 The Ford accusation reveals a lot more than just that.

00:04:21.440 Back in August, a large group of left-leaning groups co-signed a letter to both Senator Feinstein and Grassley demanding Kavanaugh's records.

00:04:31.340 It was basically the same narrative that Cory Booker and Kamala Harris were using during the opening day of the confirmation hearing.

00:04:37.760 Okay, this group demanded they had organized to stop Kavanaugh.

00:04:44.880 One of the groups that co-signed this letter was called the Project on Government Oversight, or POGO.

00:04:53.840 Who's the vice chairperson of POGO?

00:04:58.280 That's a woman named Deborah Katz. 0.98

00:05:01.800 Yes, the same Deborah Katz.

00:05:05.580 She's now the lawyer for Kavanaugh's accuser.

00:05:09.820 Don't worry, this gets even more ridiculous.

00:05:13.140 POGO?

00:05:14.600 Directly funded by, guess who?

00:05:17.680 Spooky Dude.

00:05:18.760 George Soros, the Open Society Foundation.

00:05:22.480 Soros has his fingerprints all over this.

00:05:24.940 In June, the Daily Caller reported that a group called Demand Justice had launched an effort to try to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation.

00:05:34.460 They allocated $5 million to the project.

00:05:39.200 Want to take a guess where they get their money?

00:05:41.820 Yeah.

00:05:43.220 Well, no, not Soros.

00:05:45.480 They get it from the 1630 Fund.

00:05:48.520 The 1630 Fund gets their money directly from George Soros and the Open Society Center.

00:05:56.220 So that's, you know, it's, what was that money laundering, oh yeah, Tides Foundation.

00:06:03.380 They're used to this kind of stuff.

00:06:05.200 Recently, they've given over $2 million from the George Soros Fund.

00:06:10.640 We're seeing, play by play, almost in slow motion, everyone can see it, a live hit job.

00:06:20.140 For anybody who thought that Netflix House of Cards was fiction, was over the top, was ridiculous,

00:06:28.720 I urge you to go back and watch it again.

00:06:31.400 And tell me, that doesn't look like Little House on the Prairie compared to what's happening in real life today.

00:06:38.760 It's Thursday, September 20th.

00:06:45.540 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:06:50.020 So, Stu, I want to give you the choice of where we begin today.

00:06:55.480 We can, I've got more on Kavanaugh and some really good stuff on, you know, understanding what's really happening.

00:07:03.340 But I also have a woman who works at the main lobster pound who is now offering to sedate the lobsters with marijuana before they're foiled. 1.00

00:07:25.480 So, she wants to get the lobsters baked before they're boiled. 0.99

00:07:32.840 Because surely it would become an enjoyable experience to be boiled alive after you smoke a little pot.

00:07:40.340 At that point, it's totally fine.

00:07:42.260 Thank you.

00:07:42.960 What does pot do? 0.92

00:07:43.960 It makes you paranoid.

00:07:45.340 Right.

00:07:45.600 So, now the poor lobsters are like, I know they're coming for me.

00:07:48.460 I know they're coming for me.

00:07:49.580 I got news for you.

00:07:50.320 Lobsters should be paranoid.

00:07:52.780 This is something lobsters need to develop a lot better. 0.99

00:07:55.800 More paranoia.

00:07:57.140 They are coming for you.

00:07:58.360 They're going to boil you in water.

00:08:01.200 Run the scamper away. 1.00

00:08:03.620 Do you remember that political cartoon?

00:08:05.600 It's one of my favorite.

00:08:06.440 I wish I could get it.

00:08:07.200 I wish I could get the original and blow it up.

00:08:09.060 I don't even remember which opinion person did it.

00:08:12.920 But there was this big picture of a lobster tank.

00:08:17.380 You know, a cartoon of a lobster tank.

00:08:19.360 And one guy said, one lobster says, I'm telling you, they're taking us out of the tank.

00:08:25.800 They're boiling us.

00:08:27.000 And they're eating us.

00:08:28.380 And the other lobster says, you got to stop watching Glenn Beck.

00:08:32.120 That's an all-time classic.

00:08:37.520 I love that.

00:08:40.860 So anyway, so you decide.

00:08:42.820 Should we go to Cavanaugh or should I give you the story of the lobster?

00:08:47.440 Oh, I think we got to go Cavanaugh.

00:08:50.720 Excuse me, you got to go lobster because I have stuff on Cavanaugh, too, that's driving me crazy.

00:08:56.620 We've got to do that.

00:08:58.240 But the lobster thing is too big.

00:09:01.300 Yeah, we also have the director of the new movie, Gosnell.

00:09:05.940 I've seen it.

00:09:06.900 I saw the movie a couple of weeks ago.

00:09:08.500 I have to tell you, this story needs to be heard.

00:09:11.980 I mean, I thought I knew that story.

00:09:15.420 Oh, my gosh.

00:09:17.020 Is that an amazing story?

00:09:18.900 And I have news also on that from NPR, which is very, very interesting.

00:09:24.100 Okay, so there's cage-free chickens, cage-free eggs, range-free chickens, grass-fed cows, meat eaters who, you know, are doing everything they can to, you know, lessen the guilt about eating a chicken.

00:09:41.820 Well, I want to eat this chicken, but how many square feet did it grow up in?

00:09:50.440 Yes, I agree.

00:09:51.820 I mean, I don't eat veal for that.

00:09:53.380 I don't want my cows tortured so they're a little more tender, you know.

00:09:58.520 I don't know.

00:09:59.660 Not quite tender enough.

00:10:01.060 Could you just keep that cow in a box from the day it was born for me?

00:10:05.960 I mean, I don't want to be cruel, but, okay, so here is, in Southwest Harbor, Maine, Charlotte Gill, that's an interesting name for a woman who runs a fish store.

00:10:18.460 Charlotte Gill runs Charlotte's Legendary Lobster Pound.

00:10:23.980 Uh, and she is now getting the lobsters high before boiling them alive. 0.99

00:10:31.520 She said, I feel bad when lobsters come here and there's no exit strategy.

00:10:37.320 Okay, first of all, hang on just a second.

00:10:39.280 Charlotte, the lobsters aren't coming there.

00:10:43.600 They've been captured.

00:10:45.760 It's not like a lobster walks in the door, ding, ding, the doorbell goes off.

00:10:50.440 They walk in, oh, we've got customers.

00:10:52.080 No, they're lobsters. 0.89

00:10:53.780 They've come in for something else.

00:10:55.840 It's like, it's like the late 1700s.

00:10:58.140 There's a lot of African tourists that are coming to our land.

00:11:01.000 Have you noticed that lately?

00:11:02.320 These, these tour ships are showing up.

00:11:04.920 Like, no, that's not why, that's not what those are, sir.

00:11:07.700 Sorry.

00:11:08.360 I feel bad when lobsters come here.

00:11:10.680 She owns this place. 0.93

00:11:13.200 I feel bad when lobsters come here and there is no exit strategy.

00:11:19.120 I got news for you.

00:11:20.240 There is an exit strategy.

00:11:21.480 You boil them and we eat them.

00:11:24.660 That's the exit strategy.

00:11:27.300 Can I tell you something?

00:11:28.340 I'll bet you she's inherited. 0.97

00:11:30.520 I bet you this was her father's or her family's thing, you think?

00:11:36.360 And she's grown up her whole life, you know, being torn.

00:11:41.420 I mean, look, you know, this is, you've been saying the veal thing ever since I've known you,

00:11:46.880 that you don't eat it for that reason.

00:11:48.400 And as America's only conservative vegetarian, I would say that most of the time I, you know, whatever, you know, people like to go to me into these conversations about this stuff because it's fun.

00:11:59.480 But the lobster thing's insane.

00:12:02.480 Guys, we're throwing them alive into boiling water.

00:12:05.840 It's completely nuts.

00:12:08.460 There are a million.

00:12:09.960 What are you going to do?

00:12:10.880 Shoot them?

00:12:11.660 Yes.

00:12:12.800 Anything.

00:12:13.440 Like, first of all, I would argue, of course, the answer to that would be no.

00:12:16.900 But still, if you're going to kill them, putting them into boiling water is completely nuts.

00:12:23.180 Do we have some vendetta against these things?

00:12:25.680 Like, we, dude, did they, did, are they responsible for, like, the Adam and Eve thing?

00:12:30.300 And I'm not aware of it.

00:12:31.140 Were they in?

00:12:31.620 No, here's the thing.

00:12:32.620 Come on, you know this.

00:12:33.740 If they weren't living under cover of water, we'd all be exterminating them.

00:12:39.420 We'd be terrified.

00:12:39.940 If they were crawling out from underneath your refrigerator, we'd not be eating them.

00:12:46.640 We'd be exterminating them.

00:12:47.780 Which is another weird thing.

00:12:49.620 If you had a freaking red bug walking through your house like that, you're not going to, oh, let's put it in the oven.

00:12:55.960 Or let's boil it and eat it.

00:12:57.680 That would be weird.

00:12:59.080 I never, my daughter Mary, when she was very young, I went on vacation up, like, you know, Nantucket or Cape Cod or someplace like that.

00:13:05.980 And, and I, we went, we bought lobsters, and I put them down on the floor and let them crawl.

00:13:11.540 And Mary freaked out.

00:13:14.140 She was like, you're not going to make me eat bugs.

00:13:16.700 I won't eat bugs.

00:13:18.140 I won't eat bugs.

00:13:20.520 That's really what they are, man.

00:13:21.940 How hungry were you to go, I don't know, that big thing that just crawled out of the water.

00:13:26.680 What do you say we eat that?

00:13:27.960 I know, and I think that's it.

00:13:29.680 I think because they're so ugly and creepy, we're like, sure, we can go all Hannibal Lecter on them.

00:13:34.460 Let's just boil them. 0.97

00:13:35.320 Like, there's every, we hear this, you know, the, oh, I don't want to, we're going to hunt with, you know, we don't want to be cruel.

00:13:44.060 And you put all these things in place.

00:13:45.960 And like, lobsters were like, ah, just rip them out.

00:13:48.760 You know what?

00:13:49.120 Let's put them all in a cage and let's look nice and close to the little tank and we'll meet them all before we throw them in the boiling water.

00:13:55.840 We, we as a society despise those things.

00:13:59.960 Let me ask you this, though, Stu, seriously.

00:14:02.100 Okay, let's just say you're, I don't know what your plan is.

00:14:06.080 We electrocute them.

00:14:07.620 What is your plan?

00:14:08.800 I would, my plan would be not to eat them at all, as I think you're aware.

00:14:12.280 But still, if you're going to do it, it needs to be something else other than boiling them.

00:14:16.340 We don't boil anything else.

00:14:18.100 We don't be like, hey, cows, here's a giant vat of water.

00:14:20.580 Get in.

00:14:21.480 And then, oh, they're nice and boiled.

00:14:22.800 Let's put them in stew. 0.99

00:14:24.160 We don't handle anything else like that.

00:14:25.840 I don't understand why they're like, it's like you could hear them making all the noises and they're trying to climb out.

00:14:31.880 And we're like, oh, this is okay.

00:14:34.840 It's a weird thing as a society that we do.

00:14:38.160 There's a few of them.

00:14:39.080 You've pointed out the veal thing.

00:14:40.420 The foie gras is.

00:14:42.240 Foie gras is another thing.

00:14:43.580 I love foie gras.

00:14:44.740 Will not eat it.

00:14:45.800 That is just horrible.

00:14:47.980 There's a few of them.

00:14:48.600 If anybody doesn't know how they make foie gras, they force feed a goose and then they tie their neck closed.

00:14:59.320 And so their liver becomes diseased.

00:15:02.620 So they're, I mean, it's just, it's horrible.

00:15:05.240 They force feed them.

00:15:05.960 And again, who said, you know what would make this goose liver a little better is if we jam all this food and then we put a rope around its neck, let it live, and it'll become diseased.

00:15:19.560 Ick! 0.89

00:15:20.140 Yeah, that is, uh, it's like, it's as if we decided.

00:15:22.560 Only the French. 0.95

00:15:23.240 It's like, as if we decided that they were, like, responsible for the Nazi movement and we're just, like, extracting revenge over multiple decades. 0.69

00:15:31.260 It's just.

00:15:31.720 It might have been the Nazis. 0.53

00:15:33.740 It might have been the Nazis. 0.53

00:15:34.900 There is goose staff.

00:15:36.380 That's right.

00:15:37.100 Maybe.

00:15:37.440 It might have been, it might have been, you know, one of the lesser known Nazi doctors that were like, how can I make diseased liver into something yummy?

00:15:44.660 That does sound like a Nazi experiment. 0.74

00:15:46.900 It really does.

00:15:48.000 It really does.

00:15:49.780 All right.

00:15:50.400 Chef Mengele instead of doctor.

00:15:52.040 Back with more here in a second, because you have to hear how she gets them high. 1.00

00:15:56.640 Um, or we'll move on to the Brett Kavanaugh story in a second.

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00:17:47.000 All right, Stu.

00:17:51.680 Mr. Beck.

00:17:53.480 We could go, we could go to Brett Kavanaugh.

00:17:57.420 Actually, no, we can't.

00:17:59.720 We can't go to Brett Kavanaugh because you have not explained about the pot-smoking lobster.

00:18:03.800 Well, I was going to say, I could continue the lobster story.

00:18:06.660 Yes.

00:18:07.560 Or, or I could give you the story that has in it the statement from the police, the chief of police, putting that dead whale, quote, putting that dead whale in the dumpster.

00:18:25.200 Yes, it was a mistake.

00:18:29.060 Okay, you sold me.

00:18:30.280 I want to hear about the dead whale in the dumpster.

00:18:32.400 Okay.

00:18:33.060 All right.

00:18:33.700 Okay.

00:18:34.240 Ready?

00:18:35.520 When workers misjudged the size of a dead whale they were trying to put into a dumpster, the 4,000-pound carcass fell to the ground.

00:18:46.180 They realized it was too big for the dumpster, and video shows it flopping onto the concrete in the parking lot in Rye, New Hampshire.

00:18:57.940 It was all caught on camera.

00:19:01.360 Wow, it was just terrible, says a resident.

00:19:06.000 The whale washed ashore.

00:19:07.280 Experts say they likely died after getting tangled in fishing lines.

00:19:11.840 They added insult to injury when they tried to move it.

00:19:15.300 They put it into a dumpster, and you have to see the picture.

00:19:21.600 It's this gigantic whale, and they're trying to jam it into this dumpster.

00:19:27.360 It clearly doesn't.

00:19:29.300 It's not going to.

00:19:29.880 Nobody would think that's going to fit.

00:19:33.580 The chief of police, Kevin Walsh, said, yeah, that was, quoting, yeah, that was a mistake.

00:19:42.280 It shouldn't have happened.

00:19:43.600 I take full responsibility.

00:19:46.380 We shouldn't have tried to put that dead whale in a dumpster.

00:19:49.900 It was a mistake.

00:19:51.780 We all have our days.

00:19:53.460 We all have our days.

00:19:54.460 It happens.

00:19:55.080 I swear to you, I thought it would fit.

00:19:58.120 I just, we went back in the back of the supermarket, and what are you going to do with a dead whale?

00:20:03.500 We all have our days.

00:20:05.500 We all have our days.

00:20:06.500 We all have our days.

00:20:07.000 Okay.

00:20:08.840 So, Stu, I just tweeted the lobster, I'm not sorry, not the lobster story, the whale story.

00:20:15.620 Mm-hmm.

00:20:17.020 Have you seen the video?

00:20:18.680 Go to my Twitter account, at Glenn Beck.

00:20:22.320 Mm-hmm.

00:20:22.640 Mm-hmm.

00:20:23.380 All right.

00:20:23.660 And just look at the whale story.

00:20:25.680 Now, here's the thing.

00:20:26.440 They've taken a whale.

00:20:30.020 Now, the sheriff said it was a mistake.

00:20:32.220 Sorry, we were trying to put this whale in a dumpster, and, you know, that was a mistake.

00:20:38.680 And the reason why he's saying this is because people were videotaping them taking this big bulldozer and picking up this whale off the beach and driving it to, like, you know, behind the grocery store and just dumping it into the dumpster.

00:20:55.460 Now, it's clear the whale has rigor mortis because it's flat as a board and does not move.

00:21:01.320 Right?

00:21:02.580 Okay.

00:21:02.980 Have you seen it yet?

00:21:04.060 Well, let's see.

00:21:05.280 I'm getting commercial – I'm getting a computer issue is what I'm getting.

00:21:09.240 Okay.

00:21:09.700 Thank you.

00:21:10.480 Awesome.

00:21:10.780 Would you please buy Apple, please?

00:21:13.140 This isn't Apple.

00:21:14.040 It's not Apple's fault.

00:21:15.180 It's the website.

00:21:15.740 It's just playing the commercial over and over again.

00:21:17.600 Oh, okay.

00:21:18.320 So it's going to take me a minute.

00:21:19.640 But go ahead.

00:21:20.400 Because they are taking the – I can see the picture of it, and it does not look like it would have made any sense to attempt this.

00:21:27.160 Right?

00:21:28.240 It's bigger than the bulldozer's loader.

00:21:32.520 Yes.

00:21:32.920 All right?

00:21:33.200 It's barely in that.

00:21:35.480 It's like – it looks like a mini dealership recommended one of their cars to Michael Moore is what it looks like.

00:21:42.440 Exactly right.

00:21:43.280 No, this car's not for you, Mike.

00:21:44.360 It's not going to fit.

00:21:45.320 You're not going to fit.

00:21:46.220 It's not going to fit.

00:21:47.140 As they're squeezing him in, all of the salespeople are just pushing his fat into the car.

00:21:53.200 It's not going to fit, guys.

00:21:54.840 It's not going to fit.

00:21:55.800 It's just flapping out the back windows.

00:21:59.460 It's like pushed up against the windshield.

00:22:00.800 It looks good on you.

00:22:02.320 It looks good on you.

00:22:03.720 Okay.

00:22:04.120 So it won't even fit into the loader.

00:22:08.260 And then they drive up to the dumpster and they just let the loader go.

00:22:16.140 Plop.

00:22:17.040 And the thing – the poor thing – I mean, it's horrible.

00:22:19.260 It's really horrible.

00:22:20.340 I mean, we have to remember it is dead.

00:22:22.220 But it's horrible.

00:22:24.200 It just kind of lies across the dumpster for a second and then falls down.

00:22:29.480 Yeah.

00:22:29.760 Because there's no way it's going to fit.

00:22:31.660 It's not even remotely close.

00:22:34.120 Right?

00:22:35.000 Okay.

00:22:35.420 So this is how sheep-like we are.

00:22:41.960 How did that happen?

00:22:44.520 Well, somebody said, hey, there's a baby whale that's died.

00:22:51.260 It's not a baby whale.

00:22:52.360 It's just a small whale.

00:22:53.680 Baby whale that's died washed up on shore.

00:22:57.240 So the – I don't know.

00:22:59.780 The beach pickup police or whatever they are, they call and say, what do we do?

00:23:05.560 We got a baby whale.

00:23:06.840 What do we do with it?

00:23:08.320 And the sheriff said, oh, it's a baby whale?

00:23:10.660 Just throw it in the dumpster.

00:23:12.640 That's not a baby whale.

00:23:14.420 You should – there's more to that conversation.

00:23:16.680 The guy's like, he just said the baby whale's going to dumpster.

00:23:21.260 Nobody said, ah, I don't think it'll fit in the dumpster.

00:23:25.100 It's a pretty big baby.

00:23:26.640 I mean, I am not a waste management engineer.

00:23:32.040 However, I would – you know, you got to think past step one here.

00:23:37.120 Like, it's in the dumpster.

00:23:38.800 Can a – I mean, maybe it can.

00:23:40.820 But can a garbage truck that picks up those dumpsters, can they lift a 4,000-pound whale inside?

00:23:47.540 You've never – excuse me, you've never thrown a little fish out into the garbage?

00:23:51.840 Well, no, but I would assume this is not a little fish.

00:23:56.200 It's a –

00:23:56.600 It's a baby whale.

00:23:58.060 It is a baby whale.

00:23:59.360 All baby whales should fit into a dumpster, right?

00:24:02.520 You know, that's the other thing I thought of.

00:24:04.140 First of all, I mean, who owns the dumpster?

00:24:06.880 Is it like the grocery store?

00:24:09.880 It's like, ah, crap, who put the whale in the dumpster?

00:24:13.340 Now we don't have any room.

00:24:15.460 What are we going to do now?

00:24:16.740 Yeah.

00:24:17.280 I hate it when people put whales in dumpsters.

00:24:21.080 Have you ever – like, if you – think of right now in your head, Glenn, and if you're listening to the show, think of this number in your head.

00:24:29.380 How wide is a dumpster, a normal dumpster?

00:24:33.140 How wide is it from left to right as you're facing it?

00:24:37.480 Ten feet?

00:24:39.000 I mean, I'm –

00:24:39.560 I was thinking about six or seven.

00:24:41.940 Seven, maybe?

00:24:42.620 Seven, twenty –

00:24:43.280 Yeah.

00:24:43.700 The whale was –

00:24:44.580 And four feet.

00:24:45.160 The whale is 27 feet.

00:24:52.280 Who would look at it and think –

00:24:54.020 The only thing I can think of is –

00:24:56.820 She said all baby whales in the dumpsters. 0.66

00:24:59.940 The only thing I can think of is I think they may have thought when they placed it on top, it would just fold itself into the dumpster because it's dead and, like, maybe it was so –

00:25:10.360 Okay, but – okay, I thought of that too, but look at it in the, you know, the dumpster – I mean, the, you know, the shovel thing.

00:25:20.220 What do you call it?

00:25:20.820 The bulldozer, yeah.

00:25:21.760 He's such a man.

00:25:22.560 The bulldozer's loader or whatever that thing, you know, that big shovel thing in the front.

00:25:28.760 Right.

00:25:29.320 I think we all –

00:25:29.420 If you look at it, it's not bending.

00:25:32.680 No.

00:25:33.420 It doesn't fit into that either and it's not bending.

00:25:36.780 So, who was like, hey, we'll put it in the dumpster.

00:25:43.480 The sheriff said baby whale in the dumpster.

00:25:47.240 There's no brain power here at all.

00:25:52.160 I would tend to agree with this analysis, but I feel like we're going to have very few of these situations going forward.

00:26:00.400 I feel like they've now proven this is not the most reliable way to dispose.

00:26:04.960 I mean, wasn't it – it was only a few years ago they tried to blow one up.

00:26:07.860 Remember when they blew one up on the beach?

00:26:09.640 Remember that one?

00:26:10.280 They just like filled it with TNT and just made it explode.

00:26:13.060 Okay, so the baby whale, because those are those in the dumpsters.

00:26:16.240 Big whales.

00:26:18.680 Sheriff says blow it up.

00:26:23.320 Like, that's good hell.

00:26:24.660 Think of that.

00:26:25.540 We got to – what are you going to do to dispose of this?

00:26:28.740 Put a bunch of dynamite in his mouth?

00:26:30.660 It's just going to scatter whale everywhere. 0.99

00:26:35.640 We are a weird species, man.

00:26:36.580 It just disappears.

00:26:37.760 I see it in – I watched in Six Million Dollar Man once he blew stuff up and there wasn't anything left.

00:26:46.220 What?

00:26:48.000 We are too stupid to run a country.

00:26:50.300 We really – we should just give up.

00:26:51.900 We really should.

00:26:52.500 Yeah, we really should.

00:26:54.100 You know what, America?

00:26:54.840 Put your tools down.

00:26:55.800 I think we're done as a country.

00:26:57.560 Just walk away.

00:26:59.280 I don't know if you're working the bandsaw.

00:27:00.860 You probably shouldn't be working that.

00:27:02.540 Just put the tools down.

00:27:04.160 Turn off the machine.

00:27:05.780 Let's go home.

00:27:06.500 This is why I argue for The Matrix, and I've been doing it for a long time.

00:27:09.780 If we can just be fuel for some alien culture, and then we just lay down in like a pool of some sort of jelly.

00:27:17.580 Everyone's like, oh, we need a red pill.

00:27:18.760 I'm kind of okay with that.

00:27:19.320 You had the author or the director of that documentary, Red Pill, right?

00:27:23.680 Red Pill, yeah.

00:27:24.160 On Cassie J the other day, and I was thinking, I kind of want to go blue pill.

00:27:30.280 I kind of want to go blue pill and get into the gel, and then in my mind, I'd think things were kind of normal.

00:27:37.300 Except I don't like The Matrix because they made it real enough to where, you know, if I swear to –

00:27:44.880 If I find out that we're in a matrix, and I'm actually in a pod in gel, and I still am fat in my matrix life,

00:27:58.280 and in my matrix life, I can only eat the crap like kale, and I still get fat, and I still have to exercise,

00:28:08.000 Guys, I'm telling you, I am taking the entire matrix down, because that pisses me off.

00:28:15.600 It's a fair point.

00:28:16.680 Well, they said that in that documentary, The Matrix, in which they discuss –

00:28:20.480 They tried to make it perfect for humans and make everybody happy, but then we were such whiners.

00:28:24.720 We're so addicted to outrage, we couldn't handle the perfect life they designed for us.

00:28:28.200 I can handle it.

00:28:29.140 I can handle it.

00:28:29.560 I can handle it, too.

00:28:30.700 I am not on that bandwagon.

00:28:32.540 I am not on that bandwagon.

00:28:33.560 Although I will tell you –

00:28:33.840 Give me the blue pill.

00:28:35.240 I will tell you, I met somebody here in Southern California yesterday and said,

00:28:38.940 So what's Texas like?

00:28:40.220 And I said, You know California?

00:28:44.140 Yes.

00:28:44.700 Not like that.

00:28:45.580 No.

00:28:46.040 It's not like that.

00:28:47.700 And I said, Oh, it's beautiful.

00:28:49.420 I said, In a different way.

00:28:50.880 You know, California has mountains, and we don't.

00:28:54.100 You have trees, and – well, we don't.

00:28:56.100 But, you know, you have beautiful green grasslands – we don't.

00:29:01.000 But we have sky.

00:29:02.900 The sky – actually, I'm down to the sky.

00:29:06.420 Sky is beautiful in Texas.

00:29:08.600 It's beautiful.

00:29:09.240 And I said, Some of the most beautiful sunrises and sunset, it's like Arizona in a way,

00:29:14.260 where it's just beautiful, these cloud formations, and they're huge, and blah, blah, blah.

00:29:18.960 And she said, Man, clouds.

00:29:23.160 You know, we don't even get clouds here.

00:29:25.440 Sometimes I just look up in the sky, and there's not a cloud, and I'm like,

00:29:29.840 Can we at least get a cloud?

00:29:31.680 And I wanted to say, Shut up.

00:29:35.340 Shut up. 0.95

00:29:37.440 What did you need it to say?

00:29:38.360 We don't even get clouds.

00:29:39.700 It's always 75 degrees and perfectly blue.

00:29:44.940 Oh, I am so tired of it.

00:29:48.060 Shut up. 0.95

00:29:49.300 It is frustrating.

00:29:50.780 And in Texas, we don't have everything that California has, starting with a 13% state

00:29:55.260 income tax.

00:29:56.360 That's right.

00:29:57.180 That's right.

00:29:58.000 You can have – there's your cloudy day.

00:30:02.160 Every April 15th.

00:30:04.020 Okay, when we come back, either Kavanaugh, either Kavanaugh, or the woman who's getting 0.81

00:30:16.840 the lobsters high before she puts them into a tank, because there is some controversy surrounding

00:30:23.860 that act of mercy when we come back.

00:30:27.900 It's just so beautiful here all the time.

00:30:36.160 And, I mean, the weather is perfect, and the sky is perfectly blue.

00:30:41.080 Oh, the trees are huge.

00:30:42.840 Have you seen the big sequoias?

00:30:44.740 Oh, it's so pretty.

00:30:45.760 And we have the ocean here.

00:30:46.680 We can go to the ocean anytime we like.

00:30:48.560 Like, it's just – oh, but sometimes it just doesn't get rainy and gray.

00:30:56.120 Oh, poor me.

00:31:00.860 U.S. government – by the way, everyone on planet Earth would live in California if you

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00:31:20.900 The Lazarus Group was based in North Korea, and they were just trying to breach, you know,

00:31:28.300 any U.S. business with ransomware cyber attacks.

00:31:31.840 Well, Sony was attacked, and the way they got in is they were sending all the employees

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00:32:36.100 Okay, Stu, I could go back to the getting the lobsters high.

00:32:45.840 We could go to Brett Kavanaugh, or I could give you the latest excuse from the federal

00:32:53.300 government on why the Sunspot Observatory has been closed.

00:32:59.200 Can I, well let me.

00:32:59.720 This one is fascinating.

00:33:01.080 All right, one quick question on the pot, and then we can leave it.

00:33:03.100 And this has been asked by many people, do you get high when you eat it?

00:33:08.280 No, the, now, this is according to the owner of, you know, lobsters in pot or whatever they're

00:33:15.700 calling it, okay?

00:33:17.500 They're saying, oh, there's absolutely no way.

00:33:19.920 Now, they infuse the water tank that they're in by using a, by using a mattress pump, they

00:33:31.980 infuse the water with pot smoke.

00:33:35.020 A mattress pump?

00:33:36.900 Like what, for a water?

00:33:39.300 Yeah, you don't even make water beds anymore.

00:33:41.540 Is that an air mattress?

00:33:42.660 No, no, no.

00:33:43.140 An air mattress pump.

00:33:44.520 Okay, so you got the air mattress.

00:33:46.180 Now, I don't know how you get the smoke other than you're like, okay, man, I'm on an eight

00:33:50.660 hour shift.

00:33:51.420 I got to keep blowing smoke into this pump.

00:33:54.880 But they blow the smoke into the pump.

00:33:58.100 The pump then takes that smoke and just puts it at the bottom of the tank.

00:34:04.880 So it's a, I don't think that's getting anybody high.

00:34:08.320 Okay.

00:34:08.860 I don't think so either.

00:34:09.560 Okay.

00:34:09.960 That was the, I think you have to be high to believe that that's helping the lobsters.

00:34:13.380 That was the only pragmatic question our audience had about that story.

00:34:16.500 So now that we know that, I think we can move on.

00:34:18.240 All right.

00:34:18.860 Okay.

00:34:20.200 So the story of the Sunspot Solar Observatory is bizarre.

00:34:24.460 It was shut down by FBI agents.

00:34:26.900 A Blackhawk helicopter came, was involved.

00:34:29.980 Now that's not, just so the Democratic senators know, the FBI does not have Blackhawk helicopters

00:34:37.960 fully armed.

00:34:38.840 Okay.

00:34:39.040 That's not part of the FBI.

00:34:40.840 So somehow or another, the FBI has found something at the Sunspot Observatory that it was so important

00:34:49.100 that they had to rush everyone out for their own safety, plus evacuate the entire mountain

00:34:57.780 for their own safety.

00:34:59.920 People have not been allowed back into their homes for their own safety, and they don't 0.99

00:35:07.340 know when the observatory is going to be opened again for their own safety.

00:35:14.280 Got it?

00:35:15.280 Sounds pretty dramatic.

00:35:16.680 Sounds pretty big.

00:35:18.140 Right.

00:35:18.560 I don't believe the alien thing.

00:35:19.820 I don't believe the Sunspot thing.

00:35:20.940 I do believe the Chinese or the Russians or somebody was using this as a backbone, and

00:35:27.240 one of my, you know, Silicon Valley friends said it's probably, they probably got information

00:35:33.040 from the observatory, and then they were on low frequency, low power transmitter of some

00:35:37.620 sort, taking that tower and beaming it to maybe a house on the mountain, because it would

00:35:42.740 be untraceable.

00:35:43.540 And then they would need the houses evacuated so they could search for whatever receiver

00:35:47.900 they could find.

00:35:49.020 Correct.

00:35:49.560 Correct.

00:35:49.880 And again, that explains the Blackhawk, that explains the guys on the tower, and everything

00:35:53.480 else.

00:35:54.080 Yeah.

00:35:54.300 And I don't say that, you wouldn't say that you necessarily believe that, but that's

00:35:57.320 just your best theory at the moment.

00:35:58.740 Yeah, that's the best theory I've heard.

00:36:00.100 This is the worst one.

00:36:02.400 According to sources now with the government, a federal search warrant reveals that Sunspot Solar

00:36:10.640 Observatory was shut down as FBI agents were conducting computer forensic searches for child

00:36:16.980 porn.

00:36:18.120 They're now telling us that there was a janitor that was downloading child porn on his laptop,

00:36:26.980 and they were going to try to arrest him.

00:36:30.620 Now, they haven't arrested him yet, but that's what that was all about, was just a janitor downloading

00:36:38.080 child porn, and they still don't know when they're going to let the neighborhood back

00:36:43.660 into their houses.

00:36:44.840 Tell me that makes sense.

00:36:47.600 Glenn Beck is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people

00:36:51.880 standing in the way.

00:36:52.980 He might not be able to save the country, but at least we can all go down laughing.

00:36:56.300 Glenn Beck Live, the Addicted to Outrage Tour, on tour this fall.

00:37:02.420 Glenn Beck.

00:37:04.100 Stu, I just heard some amazing audio, and it came out, I think, last night, about, what's

00:37:12.600 his name in Florida?

00:37:13.800 He was part of the March for Life.

00:37:17.040 Yeah, Cameron Kasky.

00:37:19.160 Okay.

00:37:19.920 He's one of the guys that was one of the big movers and shakers in the March for Life,

00:37:25.720 you know, the kids of Parkland.

00:37:27.800 And he said yesterday he really regrets what he said to Marco Rubio, and, you know, he

00:37:33.080 was part of the group that was like, Marco Rubio, you know, you are taking money from

00:37:37.320 the NRA, and you just want kids to die.

00:37:40.660 I want you to listen to what I think is one of the bravest people I have heard, especially

00:37:50.440 considering his age.

00:37:52.780 Here's a high school kid who is now in Parkland.

00:37:58.020 You're, if you're part of this, you see how the media has torn apart anybody who disagrees.

00:38:05.160 You've seen how people have torn the, you know, the conservative kids, how they've just been

00:38:15.020 dismantled, and you're willing to say this?

00:38:20.500 Listen to this interview.

00:38:22.700 This summer, when March for Life went on the summer tour that we embarked on, I met that

00:38:27.800 person in Texas who's got that semi-automatic weapon, because that's how they like to protect

00:38:32.120 their family.

00:38:33.520 I met the 50-some-odd percent of women who are pro-life, even though I thought that it was

00:38:38.220 preposterous that a woman could be pro-life and not pro-choice at the time.

00:38:41.160 I learned that a lot of our issues politically come from a lack of understanding of the perspectives,

00:38:49.220 and also just the fact that so often young conservatives and young liberals will go into

00:38:55.740 debate, like I said earlier, trying to beat the other one as opposed to come to an agreement.

00:39:01.160 And, you know, that's natural.

00:39:02.180 It's important for things to be a bit competitive, because I think competition is very important

00:39:06.520 for everything.

00:39:07.360 But it comes to a point where all we're doing right now is drag each other apart.

00:39:11.500 I mean, the people who were okay with Trump will not forgive him for anything, and the

00:39:15.760 people who didn't like Trump will pretend that every single thing he does is pure, utter

00:39:19.620 evil.

00:39:20.440 And it's a direction we need to head away from.

00:39:23.540 So I'm working on some efforts to encourage bipartisanship, or at least discussion that

00:39:29.180 is productive, and help a lot of people avoid the mistakes that I make.

00:39:33.520 Is this kid unbelievable?

00:39:39.980 This is unbelievable.

00:39:42.300 What is he saying?

00:39:43.960 He's saying absolutely everything that so many people are fighting against.

00:39:50.980 He is making the message of my book.

00:39:54.340 Look what he did.

00:39:55.460 He was part of an angry, I think, almost a mob, an angry mob of kids that were at least

00:40:04.780 portrayed on television as all David Hogg.

00:40:09.180 David Hogg's not listening to anybody.

00:40:11.320 He is full of certitude.

00:40:13.400 He's right.

00:40:14.160 You're wrong.

00:40:15.140 No ifs, ands, or buts.

00:40:17.540 This kid was part of that.

00:40:21.040 And then what did he say?

00:40:22.360 When I was in Texas, I met that person that uses an AR to protect their family.

00:40:27.580 Well, now, how did he meet that person?

00:40:29.620 Do you think he met that person because they were holding up a sign that said, you kids

00:40:35.540 are idiots?

00:40:37.000 Was holding up a sign that said, you have to be stopped?

00:40:40.720 Was screaming names at them?

00:40:45.160 Was tweeting horrible things about these kids?

00:40:49.180 Yes, I highly doubt it.

00:40:52.240 He met a woman who was pro-life.

00:40:55.120 He said, at the time, I couldn't believe a woman would be pro-life.

00:40:58.840 He said, I met her and I talked to her.

00:41:02.740 What does that mean?

00:41:04.420 That means there were reasonable conservatives, and I think we all try to be, reasonable conservatives

00:41:12.320 that were calm enough, rational enough, to find the one, not to go to David Hogg, but to find

00:41:20.540 the one in the group that was honestly listening.

00:41:25.420 And they changed his heart.

00:41:29.700 That's exactly the point of the book Addicted to Outrage.

00:41:35.480 And it's exactly the point I've been saying, there are people, they are not necessarily

00:41:41.580 the David Hoggs, they're not necessarily the ones you see on TV all the time, but there

00:41:46.560 are people who are truly sick of this, they know this doesn't work, they don't want to

00:41:53.500 do it anymore, but they can't find anybody reasonable to talk to.

00:41:58.160 I congratulate this guy.

00:42:04.160 You are my hero of the week, dude.

00:42:09.400 Congratulations, and if there is anything we can do to help you meet with other people

00:42:16.820 of different perspective, I'm all in.

00:42:21.820 You are my hero of the week, dude.

00:42:24.080 And just like that, he didn't have a prom date.

00:42:26.180 It's Thursday, September 20th.

00:42:28.560 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:42:35.160 This is not the endorsement you want when you're in high school.

00:42:37.680 No, it's really not.

00:42:39.480 I'm Glenn Beck's hero of the week.

00:42:41.280 Look at my t-shirt.

00:42:42.160 It says so.

00:42:45.300 You're never going to date again.

00:42:49.220 All right.

00:42:49.900 I want to talk to you about something serious here, and it's a really strange thing.

00:43:00.200 I am fascinated by this story and repulsed by this story at the same time, but the parts

00:43:05.780 of the story that really fascinate me are the parts how you don't know this story.

00:43:11.720 Even conservatives think they know this story?

00:43:16.080 They have absolutely no idea.

00:43:18.560 I watched this movie a couple of weeks ago, The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer,

00:43:23.740 and it blew me away.

00:43:27.420 It is, but it doesn't even have to be a good movie.

00:43:30.980 The story, the facts of this story are so incomprehensible that it has happened recently,

00:43:40.760 and no one found this interesting to cover.

00:43:45.400 It is one of the craziest stories you've ever seen, and they bring it to life in a new movie

00:43:52.100 that had to be impossible to make, Gosnell, The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer.

00:43:58.740 If you don't remember who Dr. Gosnell is, let us remind you, the director, Nick Cerce, is on with us now.

00:44:10.080 Hi, Nick.

00:44:10.500 How are you?

00:44:12.360 Hey, Glenn.

00:44:13.300 I'm great.

00:44:13.880 How are you?

00:44:14.480 I was hoping that I was going to be Hero of the Week, but I guess I'll set it up.

00:44:19.340 Well, you can be unpopular with all the girls just because you made this movie. 0.99

00:44:25.700 Nick, I have to tell you, I thought I knew this story.

00:44:31.860 I mean, we covered it.

00:44:33.000 I thought I knew this story, but until I saw your movie, I didn't connect visually with what that place was like,

00:44:44.040 and I also didn't know that this was a local—they were looking for doctor shoppers.

00:44:50.460 They stumbled into this guy.

00:44:54.000 Yeah, I mean, that's one of the fascinating aspects of the story is that they went after him

00:44:59.280 because he was writing prescriptions for opioids and selling them, and it was a drug case, basically.

00:45:05.940 And so when they raided the clinic, it's when the lead detective, James Woods, who we call Woody in the film,

00:45:13.840 he's just appalled by what he sees in the clinic, and he just goes back to the DA's office and says,

00:45:20.060 I don't know what's going on in there, but it can't be legal.

00:45:24.320 So it really was stumbled upon because of looking for the drugs.

00:45:29.360 So, Nick, was it—I mean, look, I understand dramatic storytelling and everything else.

00:45:37.540 Was the clinic really in that kind of shape?

00:45:45.700 Absolutely.

00:45:46.580 I mean, it's depicted as well as we could in the film,

00:45:49.220 but when you see the real photographs and the real footage that James Woods took when he went into that clinic,

00:45:55.700 it's incredible.

00:45:57.360 I mean, there are, you know, garbage bags sitting lining the hallways because he says, you know,

00:46:04.020 that he had a dispute with his medical waste company, and the bags contained fetuses.

00:46:10.880 I mean, they were just sitting in the hallway.

00:46:13.060 Some of them were stuck in the freezer.

00:46:14.620 Some of them were stuck in milk cartons with name tags on them, and the place was filthy.

00:46:21.920 It was cats running around and rats, and, I mean, it really was—you know, I don't think we could have made it look as bad as it really was.

00:46:32.940 So, I mean, I was really struck by how filthy everything was.

00:46:39.820 I mean, filthy it was, and you could almost smell it through the screen, the, you know,

00:46:48.540 when you've got, you know, rotting body parts in the hallway and cats all over the place.

00:46:54.720 I don't know how—I mean, how did anybody, anybody, think I shouldn't report this place?

00:47:04.280 Yeah, well, I wanted to shoot the film in Smell-O-Vision, but I got shut down on that.

00:47:09.600 Yeah, well, you did it with just imagination.

00:47:12.600 But, you know, I think that what happened and part of the story is that this clinic was not inspected from, I guess, 1993 until 2010.

00:47:25.600 There were no inspections done by the Board of Health at this clinic because of the political climate.

00:47:32.540 You know, the governor, Tom Ridge, back then, who—he did not want to appear to be anti-reproductive rights, quote-unquote, or anti-woman.

00:47:44.980 And so he told them to stand down.

00:47:48.540 That's my understanding.

00:47:49.840 He told them to stand down and don't inspect these clinics.

00:47:54.160 I have to tell you, if you—

00:47:55.920 I mean, a simple inspection of that clinic would have shut it down years before.

00:48:01.500 Yeah, I have to tell you, whether he was doing abortions or not, which he clearly was, and I'm just trying to make a point here.

00:48:08.760 Any clinic, any clinic for male, female, for dogs, any clinic that was in that kind of shape,

00:48:18.660 it is an insult to say, you're just against reproductive rights.

00:48:24.820 You're anti-women for inspecting or closing that place down or testifying against it. 1.00

00:48:29.980 Are you kidding me?

00:48:31.500 I mean, the infection, the disease, and the—let alone not just the kids that were killed, but also the patients that died.

00:48:42.240 Yeah, and the reason that happened is exactly what you were talking about before, about not being able to talk honestly about these issues because we demonize each other.

00:48:54.920 I mean, that's sort of part of the story is that abortion is so politically charged that you can't even have a rational discussion about it.

00:49:04.480 And even when we agree on things, the other side is afraid to agree with you about the slightest little thing because they think they might be helping the pro-life movement.

00:49:14.200 Right.

00:49:14.320 They think they might be betraying their own cause if they even concede through a moment that Gosnell was a monster.

00:49:21.000 So to give some perspective here on how much of a monster he was, we'll get into that here in a second.

00:49:29.820 Let me just—let me just do—let me just ask you this.

00:49:33.580 Explain how he had, quote, nurses performing things that they shouldn't ever—even if they were nurses, they should not be doing.

00:49:46.620 And how one woman died because he wasn't even there during the procedure.

00:49:55.700 Somebody he had trained for a few hours did it.

00:50:00.160 Yes.

00:50:01.020 Well, part of the way Gosnell operated was that he did not have actual trained registered nurses working in his clinic.

00:50:10.340 And I think probably because if he had, they would have challenged him.

00:50:14.920 And so he basically surrounded himself with, you know, yes-men and sort of stooges that he could make do whatever he wanted them to do.

00:50:26.040 And so he basically took, in many cases, high school girls and trained them to give the anesthesia and trained them to do some of the procedures so that he wouldn't have to be there even when some of the abortions were being done.

00:50:41.580 And also so that he wouldn't have to answer to anybody.

00:50:44.920 So you have these—in many cases, I thought the nurses were as much a victim as anybody else because they were kind of just doing what they were told to do.

00:50:52.760 And since they'd never been trained medically, they just thought this was normal.

00:50:57.280 They thought this was the way things were done.

00:50:59.080 It's insane.

00:50:59.900 It is.

00:51:00.560 I mean, as well.

00:51:02.140 Anybody who says, oh, this is going to go back to backroom, back alley abortions. 1.00

00:51:08.660 Yeah, that's what this guy was running.

00:51:11.420 And anybody, even if you are—even if you're somebody who says, oh, I'm absolutely pro-choice, this—the state refusing to do any kind of inspections on abortion clinics

00:51:29.140 is allowing back alley abortions to happen right now for the—not for the humanity to help these four little girls, but strictly for money. 0.99

00:51:41.520 This guy was sick beyond your imagination.

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00:53:38.740 Welcome to the program.

00:53:47.520 We're talking to Nick Searces, the director of Gosnell, The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer.

00:53:54.520 It comes out on October 12th, and you really need to see it.

00:53:57.840 You need to—this is going to be one of those movies that is—they're going to do everything they can to keep this from going mainstream.

00:54:03.160 You need to, you know, organize yourselves into groups and churches and whatever.

00:54:09.940 Anybody who will go see this movie with you, it is—it's not shocking.

00:54:16.940 It's not going for shock value.

00:54:21.440 It's shocking how cold it is and how no one was willing to tell the story and to cover it.

00:54:29.760 You'll be shocked.

00:54:30.740 Even if you follow the story, you're going to be shocked at the story because I can guarantee you, you only know a fraction of it.

00:54:40.780 Nick, can you tell me, the detectives in the movie, they're heroes to me.

00:54:49.120 They didn't have an agenda.

00:54:51.980 They—I don't even think they knew anything really about abortion or anything else, you know, other than what the general public does.

00:54:58.240 At least that's the way it came off in the film.

00:55:00.240 And they were saying things in the beginning like, this can't be legal.

00:55:04.520 Is this normal?

00:55:05.420 Is this the way it is?

00:55:06.640 And they honestly thought this guy was a monster and couldn't get anyone to help.

00:55:14.800 Yeah, I mean, that's one of the main parts of the movie that I found so fascinating.

00:55:19.240 I mean, when I read the script, there was just all this information in there about the procedure of abortion, about the laws surrounding it, you know, what constituted a legal abortion and what made it illegal.

00:55:32.060 All that information in there, I was just like, wow, I didn't know this.

00:55:36.080 I didn't know any of this stuff.

00:55:38.500 And I think that's sort of the way the story unfolds in the movie is through the detectives is they're carrying that ball in that.

00:55:47.440 Detective Woods is like discovering all this stuff and goes into this abortion clinic and just goes, wow, this can't be what they're all like, is it?

00:55:55.820 I mean, this can't be normal.

00:55:57.740 So is that an accurate portrayal?

00:56:01.120 Is it an accurate portrayal of them?

00:56:04.440 Or are they more of a vehicle in the movie?

00:56:08.020 No, it's an accurate portrayal.

00:56:09.700 I mean, you know, James Woods was, you know, he was interviewed extensively while the script was being done.

00:56:17.760 He visited the set.

00:56:19.020 But, you know, it's definitely as accurately as we can tell it, it was his reaction to what he saw when he went in that clinic.

00:56:26.280 Okay, making this film, and by the way, Nick plays a role.

00:56:34.500 You've seen his face before.

00:56:36.160 He's been in a million movies, including a couple of Academy Award winning movies.

00:56:41.360 But Nick made this film.

00:56:42.880 And now trying to promote this film is even difficult.

00:56:46.600 The story behind NPR and trying to get them just to say the truth is phenomenal.

00:56:56.000 We go there next.

00:57:03.260 Nick Searcy.

00:57:04.380 He is the director of Gosnell.

00:57:05.980 I want to give you some idea who Nick is as well.

00:57:09.300 Beside the director, you've seen him.

00:57:12.340 He's one of those faces that you've seen.

00:57:13.600 You're like, oh, my gosh, I've seen him a million times.

00:57:15.900 He was in Moneyball, the last song, The Ugly Truth, Dead Girl, Runaway, Castaway, Head of State, Fried Green Tomatoes, Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri, which is great.

00:57:28.300 The Shape of Water.

00:57:30.180 He's also, you know, recurring and, you know, a star in Justified in 11-22-63, which is also great.

00:57:42.620 Seven Days American Gothic, HBO, From Earth to the Moon, The Mentalist, Lie to Me, Without a Trace, West Wing, CSI, NCIS.

00:57:52.980 And now that he's the director of Gosnell and stars in the movie Gosnell, I believe he'll be playing Willie Loman in Death of a Salesman at the Waffle House just outside of Atlanta.

00:58:05.300 Are you going to be able to get another job after this, Nick?

00:58:12.420 Well, I'm working right now, Glenn.

00:58:14.320 I'm up in Toronto right now doing a miniseries.

00:58:17.800 You know, I've got a couple of things already lined up.

00:58:20.840 It doesn't seem to be hurting me so far.

00:58:23.620 I mean, I think that they're trying to ignore Gosnell, the movie, and pretend that it doesn't exist right now.

00:58:31.960 Maybe if they figure out that it's actually out there, then it might be going to hurt me.

00:58:37.560 But so far, so good, you know.

00:58:40.020 There is a story out today.

00:58:43.000 One of the executive producers for the movie, Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer, Gosnell, reached out to NPR to purchase a sponsorship for an interview show, Fresh Air.

00:58:53.640 He was told he couldn't use the term abortionist to describe Gosnell in the ad.

00:58:59.200 The emails obtained say, let's see, support for this NPR program comes from the film Gosnell, the trial of America's biggest serial killer.

00:59:13.020 The film is a true story of an abortionist, Kermit Gosnell, the story mainstream media tried to cover up because it reveals the truth about abortion.

00:59:21.120 They said they couldn't use the word abortionist, but they could use the word doctor.

00:59:26.600 That, he was, they went back and said, okay, can we use abortion doctor?

00:59:34.340 No, we can't do that.

00:59:37.520 They're still trying to bury this story.

00:59:41.920 Yeah, they're afraid of it, and that's the thing.

00:59:45.260 It's like, the point was that he was not a podiatrist or, you know, a gastroenterologist.

00:59:53.500 He did abortions, and that's what he called himself.

00:59:58.180 You know, Gosnell called himself an abortion doctor.

01:00:00.500 But they're so afraid that this, that by telling this story that it's going to hurt the pro-choice side and help the pro-life side,

01:00:10.240 that they just, they, they're afraid to even say the word.

01:00:14.100 Can I, can I tell you something?

01:00:15.720 You know what hurts it?

01:00:16.740 What hurts it is this cover-up.

01:00:19.540 Because when people try to cover up something this grotesque, you automatically go, geez, what else are they not telling me?

01:00:27.220 If they would lead, you know, like the NRA, most time, most times, leads the way.

01:00:33.580 They were the ones that said, we have to have a way to run your criminal history before you buy a gun.

01:00:42.720 It was their bill and their push that put it out there.

01:00:47.000 It helps their credibility.

01:00:49.440 For them to hide something, I don't think Planned Parenthood places are like this, and I think those places are monstrous.

01:00:55.800 But it's not like Gosnell.

01:00:59.420 Yeah, you would think there'd be some common ground here.

01:01:02.040 You would think that there would be a chance to go, okay, well, we can all agree on this.

01:01:06.820 We can all agree that not inspecting abortion clinics endangers women.

01:01:11.320 It causes the loss of life.

01:01:13.920 And we need to be as diligent about inspecting abortion clinics as we are about every other kind of clinic.

01:01:20.020 I mean, you would think.

01:01:20.980 And that's one of the things that's been most shocking to me since we made the film is how resistant everybody is to just having a conversation about the truth of what happened in this situation.

01:01:34.540 They're so afraid of it that they don't even want to talk about it, and they still want to pretend that it's not there.

01:01:40.200 Was he in real life, you've seen the videotapes, you know, it was bizarre when they first come in, and they come into his house, and he seems, I don't know, just casual about everything.

01:02:01.160 Almost, almost mentally handicapped, you know, calm, just, I don't know what, just completely detached. 1.00

01:02:12.260 Was that what he was really like?

01:02:14.180 Yeah, I mean, he had this sort of air of superiority about him, and he still to this day thinks that he did nothing wrong, and that he's going to be exonerated.

01:02:27.400 So he really, when they came into his house, he had no fear.

01:02:31.320 I mean, he was not afraid that they were going to discover something bad about him, because he didn't think that he'd done anything wrong, except for the money.

01:02:42.120 He was trying to hide the money wherever he could, because most of his, especially his late-term abortions that he did on the weekends, that was where he took only cash, and it was, it was, there were big piles of cash, stuffed all around the house, and hidden out at his beach house, and I mean, he was, I think he was concerned more about hiding the cash than anything else.

01:03:03.800 And he didn't seem to live large, I mean, you know, he didn't, you know, hire a housekeeper, and his clinic was an absolute dump.

01:03:14.720 I mean.

01:03:15.160 Yeah, no, he didn't clean up after himself very well, that's for sure.

01:03:20.240 So, tell me.

01:03:22.100 But he did have, he did have, I'll say this, he did have extensive real estate holdings.

01:03:25.840 He invested, you know, he had beach houses and over 17 properties, I believe.

01:03:31.940 Tell me about the, you know, you, there's one scene, you go into the judge, and the judge is like, I'm not making this about abortion, and, I mean, that's kind of what this is, he's an abortion doctor, and, and you, you know, the, the, the prosecution, who couldn't get a doctor, at first at least, to testify against.

01:03:56.620 No doctor would, would testify.

01:04:01.160 Why?

01:04:04.060 Well, I think it's that sort of, you know, I don't really know, I mean, I'd be guessing, but I think it's that sort of medical brotherhood kind of thing.

01:04:12.940 There's, there's, you know, it's, it's just bad form to testify against one of your own.

01:04:17.740 And would you not testify against Mengele?

01:04:20.020 If you, I mean, he wasn't doing experiments on people, but just honest to God, just in cleanliness, this guy was a horror show, let alone what he was doing to girls.

01:04:34.180 Right. Well, I think also the politics entered into it.

01:04:39.160 I mean, you, you, that, the doctors, I think, had the idea, probably correctly, that if they testified in this, it was going to become a political circus, and they didn't want to be part of it.

01:04:50.120 They didn't, they just didn't want to spend their time or their, endanger their reputations by jumping into the middle of something this controversial, especially when they weren't involved, really.

01:05:01.400 They would just be testifying as expert witnesses, and, you know, it wasn't their act to grind, necessarily.

01:05:08.420 So, the, the, one of the shocking scenes in the movie is, as they're pulling up to the courthouse, one of them says in the car, okay, prepare for a zoo, listen, don't, you know, don't answer any questions, just keep moving forward.

01:05:24.500 And they open the car door, and there is no one there, and there is no one in the, in the trial, in the courtroom, nobody, nobody from the press.

01:05:36.660 And it's a little shocking, especially for this time, you know, an age where, look, this is, this is one of the greatest, most horrific stories in American history, and no one was there to document it.

01:05:56.420 I think, Glenn, they just couldn't figure out a way to spin it.

01:06:00.220 You know, they just couldn't figure out a way to actually cover the story and not risk helping tell the truth, not, not risk helping the pro-life movement.

01:06:12.360 That, that had to be what was going on.

01:06:14.880 And they, the, the press stayed away from the trial until Kirsten Powers, I believe it was, wrote an op-ed saying, why isn't anybody covering this?

01:06:25.340 This should be what we're looking at.

01:06:26.880 And after that, it's sort of like, it kind of broke a little bit nationally, and then people came to the trial towards the end of it.

01:06:34.580 And it's not one of those stories, I mean, it's, it's truly amazing.

01:06:37.840 You did a great job on the, on the film.

01:06:40.860 It has the creepiness of Silence of the Lambs.

01:06:46.160 And, and I don't say that lightly.

01:06:48.220 It really has that kind of creepy feeling to it.

01:06:51.220 Uh, but without any kind of sensationalism and without any gore, uh, and it's, it, because, you know, you say, oh, you want to go see the abortion movie?

01:07:00.700 No, nobody wants to go see an abortion movie.

01:07:03.260 This is, this was so shocking in its coldness and in, and how much you just had no idea happened that it is strangely not one of those movies that you want to look away from.

01:07:22.000 Um, does that make sense to you?

01:07:25.520 Yeah, I mean, and we really consciously made that effort.

01:07:28.480 We, we said, we, we, we want to make this something that is palatable, that can, that people can watch and let the truth, let the facts speak for themselves.

01:07:37.900 So we really, really worked hard to try to make a PG-13 movie that everybody could see.

01:07:43.580 And I think the way that we did that is that we focused on the detectives and the lawyers.

01:07:49.300 We focused on the, the heroes of the piece, which were the people who, who can, who caught Gusnell and who took him to trial and convicted him.

01:07:58.880 And by doing that, it made, it made the movie more of a thriller and a courtroom drama than any sort of, you know, shock, gore movie.

01:08:07.900 Right.

01:08:08.320 What, what's truly amazing to me is this is, you'd see this on Sherlock.

01:08:14.740 You've seen worse than this on Sherlock and, and really how many shows, I mean, geez, man, you were, uh, you know, you're, you're part of CSI.

01:08:26.240 Yeah.

01:08:26.660 You're, you're part of those shows.

01:08:27.900 You see this stuff.

01:08:29.260 Yeah.

01:08:29.860 Um, and this is, this is done more tastefully than some of the stuff you've seen and you'll watch, but people will say,

01:08:37.560 I don't want to see this because it's real.

01:08:40.920 And that's why you should see this.

01:08:43.640 Nick, I hope you continue to work.

01:08:46.460 Uh, uh, and, uh, and, and I wish you, I wish you lots of luck in the future.

01:08:51.820 And on this film, it opens, uh, when is it?

01:08:55.660 Uh, October 12th, October 12th nationwide.

01:09:00.960 And if you, uh, if you, uh, if you can make sure you bring friends, lots of friends, because this is not going to be reviewed.

01:09:10.500 And if it is reviewed, I guarantee it gets bad reviews.

01:09:13.320 Uh, it's people are going to avoid it.

01:09:15.400 They don't want it.

01:09:16.260 Uh, is there anything else that people can do to help get the, spread the word?

01:09:20.960 Well, you know, if you go to gosnowmovie.com, there's, we have a number of advanced screenings that we're doing around the country before, uh, before the release.

01:09:30.700 Uh, and I think they're playing in Dallas tonight.

01:09:33.120 I was going to be there.

01:09:34.120 I wish I was there.

01:09:34.680 I have to stay, stay here in Toronto to, uh, to make, uh, another, I'm doing a mini series now about Ebola.

01:09:42.760 I get all the good ones.

01:09:44.700 Jeez, man.

01:09:46.020 Um, good for you.

01:09:50.160 There's a lot of screenings around the country.

01:09:52.180 We're going to the Carolinas next week.

01:09:54.800 We're in Washington, D.C. this weekend.

01:09:57.600 Uh, and so just check on the website and see if there's a screening near you and you can sign up and go see the movie before it opens.

01:10:03.660 Thank you very much.

01:10:04.660 I appreciate it, Nick, and best of luck.

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01:10:16.560 Organize your church.

01:10:19.260 Organize, uh, a group of people to see it.

01:10:22.120 This is...

01:10:23.760 If this weren't true, this would be one of the most compelling horror movies you could ever see or story that you could ever tell.

01:10:37.340 Because it's true, it makes it really important that we all see and spread the word.

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01:12:42.440 And the credit card, maple flex card, is one-tenth of an ounce, I think one-twenty of an ounce,

01:12:49.800 one-quarter of an ounce of silver.

01:12:51.500 And you can break it up into little pieces.

01:12:54.640 And again, it becomes like coins, but you can keep it in your wallet.

01:12:58.920 Own one.

01:13:00.200 Own a buttload of them.

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01:13:19.780 Glenn, back.

01:13:21.000 I'm on Twitter at World of Stew, and a lot of people are asking, Glenn, what is on your left hand?

01:13:25.980 There seems to be a spot of some sort.

01:13:28.300 Is that...

01:13:29.180 Yeah, it just showed up today.

01:13:30.480 It's just this black spot.

01:13:31.800 I have no idea what it is.

01:13:34.340 It doesn't look healthy.

01:13:35.500 Should I have it checked?

01:13:37.180 Yeah.

01:13:37.540 Are you sure it's not just like ink?

01:13:40.320 No.

01:13:41.240 I mean, I use a fountain pen, but I'm sure that's not ink.

01:13:44.140 I'm sure that's not ink.

01:13:45.460 Glenn, back.

01:13:47.320 Mercury.

01:13:49.640 Glenn Beck is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way.

01:13:55.240 He might not be able to save the country, but at least we can all go down laughing.

01:13:58.840 Glenn Beck Live, the Addicted to Outrage Tour.

01:14:01.860 On tour this fall.

01:14:05.000 Glenn Beck.

01:14:06.440 It's Thursday, September 20th.

01:14:09.160 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:14:11.700 So, I mean, unless you, you know, just happen on this show for the first time today, I've got a new book out.

01:14:19.420 Surprise, surprise.

01:14:20.560 The book is called Addicted to Outrage.

01:14:23.180 And, you know, I'm very concerned about the outrage that's happening politically, but I am equally concerned about technology that is coming our way.

01:14:35.440 We are standing at the best of times and the worst of times, and it's going to be up to us on whether technology and and our own human instincts and the worst of us bring us this dark future or a good future.

01:14:54.580 I'm a optimistic catastrophist.

01:14:57.920 But it is up to us.

01:15:00.540 And the only reason why I'm optimistic is because I know who we are when the chips are down.

01:15:06.380 But where is our bottom?

01:15:08.860 Most people will tell you, I don't have a problem with social media.

01:15:11.940 I'm not addicted.

01:15:12.820 Yeah, you really are.

01:15:14.400 And it's been designed to addict us.

01:15:17.500 I mean, what what company sets out and says, you know what?

01:15:20.820 I want to design something that people don't really want to check all the time.

01:15:25.560 It's designed for that.

01:15:27.960 And the way this is happening now in our society and everything is becoming political and we're starting to be we're starting to divide each other and call each other names.

01:15:36.400 This is not good.

01:15:38.820 And whether you just woke up to this or you've always known this, you've got to start changing behavior and speaking to people differently and and checking yourself and social media.

01:15:55.480 Judith Donath is with us now.

01:15:58.080 Judith, how are you?

01:15:59.220 Good.

01:15:59.660 How are you?

01:16:00.800 Very good.

01:16:01.360 You have you wrote the book, The Social Machine Designs for Living Online.

01:16:07.140 You were also part of the MIT Media Lab, sociable media group.

01:16:11.760 I quote you in my book saying every ping could be social, sexual or professional opportunity.

01:16:17.720 And we get a media reward, a squirt of dopamine, dopamine for answering the bell.

01:16:23.180 These these rewards serve as jolts of energy that recharge the compulsion engine, much like the frisson of a gambler receives when a new card hits the table.

01:16:36.580 Humidably, the effect is potent and hard to resist.

01:16:40.960 Tell me how I don't think people really believe that we are that we're dope addicts.

01:16:47.960 A quick back up.

01:16:50.820 I don't think in the original quote I had said that we get a jolt of dopamine, but I don't think it's really important what the exact neurology behind it is.

01:16:59.660 OK.

01:17:00.540 You know, I think most of us are aware of that feeling that, for instance, if you post something, a comment, you're always interested in seeing that people have liked it.

01:17:11.240 A lot of this was actually on the positive side.

01:17:13.940 The addiction is not necessarily about outrage.

01:17:16.420 I think at the time I was thinking more of the issue around people posting pictures of kittens online and how popular cats had gotten.

01:17:25.700 But I'm not I'm not trying to tell you.

01:17:27.420 So, you know, I'm not sorry that if you felt I was presenting it this way, I'm not presenting you to prove my theory at all on outrage at all.

01:17:37.600 I'm talking specifically just about social media and how social media is affecting us.

01:17:44.280 And and and I think you're right at at at first.

01:17:48.460 And I think even some ways now, even if it's in a negative way, we still do get that that hit and that high from people saying, I like this.

01:17:59.720 Say more.

01:18:00.800 Do more.

01:18:01.300 Whatever it is, a kitty cat video or an outrageous remark.

01:18:05.360 People are are getting high off of this.

01:18:11.060 People like me.

01:18:12.020 People are talking about me.

01:18:13.900 I've got something, you know, to say that people want to hear.

01:18:17.880 Right.

01:18:18.480 And it's in some ways it's a little bit like the story of junk food.

01:18:21.860 You know, we've evolved to want to have particular things and sugar is useful for energy.

01:18:28.280 Salt is really useful.

01:18:29.900 But if you take them and make food that's just about those things and just about those tastes and is designed just to get you to keep eating, then it's really unhealthy.

01:18:40.900 And the desires both to be liked by others.

01:18:45.040 If we did not care what other people think of us, that's the mentality of a psychopath.

01:18:49.900 You know, you want people who care about each other, who care, you know, am I doing things that other people think are acceptable?

01:18:57.920 That's how we have community.

01:18:59.520 But if you start distilling that out into a space where everything you say gives you a little measurement of how many likes you get and you can measure it against the other things you said or what other people have said, it starts getting into the realm of social junk food.

01:19:15.300 Do you think it's I mean, are you I mean, I know you're studying the media now.

01:19:21.280 Do you think we're at the point of social junk food or we're social junkies to where because we're it's you know, you say, you know, if you don't care what people think, you're you know, you're a sociopath.

01:19:34.020 I agree.

01:19:36.160 However, we have on both right and left decided we don't care what half of the country thinks of us.

01:19:43.860 So we are what a half a sociopath.

01:19:47.120 There's a group of people, no matter what side you're on, no matter what the topic is, there's a group of people that have been deemed the enemy.

01:19:54.060 And so you can tweet whatever you want, because you'll get all of the applause from your crowd, whoever your crowd happens to be.

01:20:05.940 Right.

01:20:06.560 Well, I mean, and those are deeper issues that have been exacerbated by social media.

01:20:13.080 But I think you can look in history at, you know, the rise of a fascistic government in the past or any, you know, there's a long history of war in human history.

01:20:23.000 So the fact that you have a country that's deeply divided by groups who think the other one is the spawn of the devil is not actually new.

01:20:31.320 But we're seeing a particular version of it with social media.

01:20:34.780 Partly we get to see it played out in public all the time.

01:20:37.860 And I think it's also very easy to blame the technology for it without looking at some of the deeper causes.

01:20:44.220 And the issues around the attention are both when it's negative, like being able to rally people to your side by saying political things that are really outrageous.

01:20:58.660 But they're also, it's also a problem when it's much more even positive things, like worrying about saying, shaping all of your views in terms of what will people like.

01:21:11.900 And I think from the political stand, though, I think where there's a little bit of a difference on the right and the left.

01:21:19.900 And perhaps this is where we may disagree, because I think that on the right you have a or on the more authoritarian side.

01:21:31.800 And I think there's an authoritarian left also.

01:21:34.660 But where you have people who feel very, very strongly that they are absolutely right and that all the outsiders are just wrong is where you get the phenomenon you're talking about where they can or they will tweet something or post things that are not only outrageous, but not true.

01:21:55.760 And it will get a great deal of approval from the others on their side and outrage the outsiders, which is what they're seeking.

01:22:04.720 And that's a particularly dangerous phenomenon online.

01:22:08.560 So, Judith, I think that's a dangerous thing anywhere.

01:22:13.420 Myself, it doesn't have to be right or left.

01:22:15.360 And, you know, I write in my book that certitude is probably our biggest threat right now.

01:22:27.440 Everyone on each side is absolutely certain that their side is right, as long as you agree with it 100 percent.

01:22:36.800 You know, their side is right.

01:22:39.920 The other side is absolutely wrong.

01:22:42.180 And this this this certainty.

01:22:46.560 And I think that it does come from the extremes.

01:22:50.360 And I know that, you know, it's it's it's the thing that I read in the book.

01:22:56.160 The thing that one time made me popular is the was the thing that everybody wanted, I guess.

01:23:03.740 And I just I just I was right.

01:23:07.500 I was right.

01:23:08.240 Everybody else was wrong.

01:23:09.160 I was right.

01:23:09.700 I was certain of it.

01:23:11.200 Now, the the less certain I become of things, the more I hear the pain in people on all sides of the front.

01:23:22.260 And the more I'm noticing that it is it's the certitude in in the extremes on both sides that are killing us.

01:23:32.340 I mean, you can't say, you know, you can't say that, you know, all people that want, you know, a bigger welfare state are communists.

01:23:42.960 That's ridiculous.

01:23:44.340 And you can't say that all people that voted for Donald Trump are deplorables.

01:23:48.280 Both of those are are are wrong.

01:23:51.460 And it seems as though we are only playing to those certainties at the extreme.

01:23:59.800 And that's stopping us from being human beings and recognizing others as human beings.

01:24:04.240 Mm hmm.

01:24:05.920 Yes.

01:24:06.660 And I think that's a lot of the danger of the present moment is that ability to once you start seeing others as human.

01:24:18.700 And part of the issue is if you look at the history of highly authoritarian movements, a lot of it is about trying to portray those who are outsiders as very, very dangerous and subhuman.

01:24:36.620 And so you can do anything and say anything about them and it only strengthens your inner group.

01:24:44.800 And this is, you know, I'm this is a phenomenon we're seeing much more now than we did, you know, even 10 years ago and not just here, but throughout the world.

01:24:53.700 There is a there is a an arrogance in some way to technology right now or those who are developing technology with I'm concerned about AI, AGI, ASI.

01:25:19.000 I don't claim to know and I don't think anybody can claim to know with any kind of certainty, you know, when or if that can happen.

01:25:27.100 But it is something to think about the upgrading, the transhumanism, the upgrading of of ourselves, the enhancements that are that are coming.

01:25:38.260 We're messing with things that we don't really even understand because we don't even understand ourselves yet.

01:25:46.740 We haven't mastered our own self-control.

01:25:49.320 Are you concerned at all?

01:25:51.740 I mean, I'm not I'm I'm not a technophobe and I'm not afraid of technology.

01:25:57.820 I'm I am concerned about the goals of some of the technology and how that those programs are written in what we teach.

01:26:07.040 Are you concerned at all about how some of this stuff will change us that we don't we can't then reverse?

01:26:18.080 Well, I think there are a number of things to be concerned about with artificial intelligence.

01:26:22.520 I think the immediate issue is the ability of machines to imitate humans in ways that we can't recognize.

01:26:33.220 You know, that's something that I think a lot of people are starting to be familiar with on Twitter, where it's very hard to tell if something was written by a human or by a bot.

01:26:42.720 And the issue there is that, again, especially as a lot of our conversation occurs online, if you think you're speaking with another human, one of the important parts in what happens when we communicate with others, hopefully leaving out the extremes of anger, is that there's a level of empathy underneath.

01:27:05.120 Even if you're trying to persuade someone else, it's because you care what they think, and often you care what they think of you.

01:27:11.420 And that's really sort of the fundamental part of our connection with others.

01:27:16.300 But if you're conversing with a bot, there's no connection there.

01:27:20.460 It's simply something that has been programmed to affect some means, some end.

01:27:26.520 And so what it needs to be a lot more effective and much more persuasive than people are.

01:27:32.940 While the people don't recognize what they're dealing with, or even if they do, you know, if it's something like an Alexa, it becomes your friend, it's in your house, it chats with you, you know, it asks you how your day was.

01:27:46.740 But you don't know what is actually going on in the program and what its internal motivations are, which is likely to be, you know, something that's beneficial to the maker of it.

01:27:59.560 Yes. So this is something that is deeply concerning, that, you know, Alexa will be everywhere.

01:28:11.980 Google, you know, controls so much information and placement.

01:28:15.020 Just slight changes to algorithms can change people and, you know, the most likely scenario is get them to spend more, spend more time, do something that the company wants.

01:28:29.820 Is it concerning to you? I've always been a capitalist. I've always been less worried about the companies.

01:28:37.980 I'm concerned about the government and the companies. I'm concerned about anyone having this kind of power in our lives.

01:28:47.820 Yes. I mean, I had always been mostly concerned with the companies. I thought the government was less worrisome. I'm now worried about both.

01:28:56.260 But I think that, yes, I think the companies are quite dangerous, partly because, I mean, and we may, again, differ here, is that it's both that they want you to continue to consume things, which is not necessarily good for your pocketbook.

01:29:13.320 It's terrible for the environment, you know. So if you look at, you know, even a simple case where we leave out the government, we leave out worries about, you know, fascist governments controlling people, just companies doing what they need to do to make more money.

01:29:29.500 If you can turn people into even more rabid consumers than they are now, you know, what does that do to our society? It's not a particularly healthy outlook.

01:29:43.100 Well, I think we've seen this already play out with, you know, Bernays in the 1920s of, you know, the first king of advertising and how he could subtly move people in a different direction.

01:29:57.600 I mean, it's why we have, you know, ham and eggs for breakfast. That wasn't anything except advertising. Very, very clever advertising at the time through our doctors.

01:30:10.620 And I think we're kind of seeing just a modern version of that. Judith, I have to cut you loose. 1.00

01:30:14.880 I thank you so much for your time. And thanks for being out there thinking about ethics and what's happening with technology.

01:30:23.340 Judith Donath, a fellow of Harvard Berkman Klein Center. Thanks for being on the program.

01:30:30.560 Thank you.

01:30:37.680 All right.

01:30:41.120 Well, I got one. I got we had a point of we had a point of agreement.

01:30:45.280 Yeah, she was she was she was, you know, always concerned about the companies.

01:30:52.140 I was always concerned about the government. Now we're both concerned about both of them.

01:30:57.360 Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's good.

01:31:01.380 All right. Stu, are the studio chairs in yet?

01:31:05.940 The the X chair?

01:31:07.120 No.

01:31:07.580 No. OK, this is driving me nuts because I know the X chair people, they deliver right away.

01:31:13.920 It is somebody in our organization who is slowing this down.

01:31:17.380 Oh, yes. It's I'm sure they're here somewhere, but they're not in here yet.

01:31:19.940 I'm not sitting on.

01:31:20.940 So would you find out for me today?

01:31:24.280 X chair is my new office chair and I just ordered some for the studio or I've asked somebody to order some for the studio and they haven't been ordered or something is wrong.

01:31:32.800 But I know it's not with the X chair people because I talked to the X chair people and they're like, we'll ship it tomorrow.

01:31:37.920 OK, just have your people contact us.

01:31:41.680 OK, look, there are chairs that you get from Staples and their pieces of crap.

01:31:49.160 And we all know it.

01:31:50.520 And we spend more time in our office chair in that Staples crappy office chair than we do in our bed.

01:31:56.700 And if you have a comfortable chair, you, you know, enjoy work a little bit more, you'll feel the difference yourself when you sit in it.

01:32:07.400 It's a great, great chair.

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01:33:03.880 You know, here is a here's a good example of the principle that I talk about in the book and people say, oh, Glenn, you just want to surrender.

01:33:13.180 You just want us to reconcile with everybody.

01:33:15.100 No, no, no, no, no.

01:33:16.360 Notice the last interview.

01:33:18.380 I at least felt it was hostile from the get go and is well, she was not going to agree.

01:33:28.340 We were not going to agree.

01:33:29.980 She was talking about certainty, but she had she was certain that the the problem was really more with the right than the left.

01:33:37.300 I made a choice.

01:33:39.280 I could have talked to her for 40 minutes. 0.71

01:33:40.620 I made a choice.

01:33:41.500 You know what?

01:33:42.400 I don't think I'm going to be able to change her mind and find a way to each other quickly in 40 minutes.

01:33:47.580 And I don't want to argue with her.

01:33:49.300 And I, you know, so there are some people that you you talk to and you agree to disagree and you move on and you move on as friends.

01:33:58.460 Others, I think their minds can be changed.

01:34:00.980 I'm not sure she could have changed mine or I could have changed hers.

01:34:04.000 This is the Glenn Beth program.

01:34:09.740 All right.

01:34:10.140 I want to talk a little bit about Brett Kavanaugh on the latest developments.

01:34:12.800 And they're pretty they're pretty shocking coming up in just a second.

01:34:16.140 First, Stu, you have a good news update.

01:34:20.440 Yeah, we never you know, we get to do this like once every six months.

01:34:23.200 So let's do it today in the year in which we had the March for Life.

01:34:27.780 Right.

01:34:28.260 How bad gun crimes are and how bad all of this is, not to mention all the craziness going on in Chicago.

01:34:34.000 And other cities, the preliminary numbers are coming out for crime in twenty eighteen down murder down seven point six percent.

01:34:45.440 Wow.

01:34:46.160 That is that would bring us to the bottom of the post nineteen ninety decline in murder rate.

01:34:52.080 So the lowest murder rate in about thirty years and crime overall cities will experience the lowest crime rate since at least nineteen ninety.

01:35:03.420 And it does not feel this way.

01:35:07.660 It doesn't feel so dangerous outside.

01:35:10.580 I know it's crazy.

01:35:12.080 It's incredible.

01:35:12.440 And even this this one, I found it because, you know, look, the left is they'll do all their gun stuff.

01:35:16.600 Right.

01:35:16.900 And this kind of shows that that's not the problem they're saying it is.

01:35:20.620 It's you know, it's still a problem, obviously, when anyone gets hit.

01:35:22.860 But it's like this is a decreasing problem going in the right direction.

01:35:27.760 But even in Chicago, a drop of twenty three point two percent in murder rate in Chicago.

01:35:33.760 What?

01:35:34.380 And that means like no one else is killing each other.

01:35:37.680 It's just like just just the bad, nasty sections of town we have got.

01:35:44.180 Somebody has got to pay attention to and listen to the people in Chicago.

01:35:49.000 We you know what?

01:35:49.580 We should just go up.

01:35:50.360 We should do a show in in.

01:35:53.340 You know, I don't know.

01:35:54.640 I don't know even how to organize it, but but do a show up in Chicago and just talk to the community.

01:36:00.500 What is happening?

01:36:02.440 What is happening?

01:36:03.300 Because, you know, those people there that are living there are freaking out when you freak out and you would want the politics to stop and say, you know, imagine, for instance, Parkland, you're in.

01:36:15.440 You've got kids in school in Parkland and nothing has been done except this big national debate about guns.

01:36:23.980 Can you imagine as a parent?

01:36:25.600 You'd be like, could somebody I want my kids to be safe.

01:36:28.720 Can we make progress on anything?

01:36:31.020 Think of the people that are in Chicago that are living in those neighborhoods and they see that they're just being used by the media one way or the other, one side or the other in this stupid national argument.

01:36:44.020 And nobody's seeing the individual.

01:36:46.600 That's not that's really not good.

01:36:49.480 All right.

01:36:50.300 Also, let's go to let's go to the Brett Kavanaugh story as as our guest a few minutes ago, who perhaps I misread.

01:36:59.480 Um, was was was talking about certainty.

01:37:04.440 Um, I think a good example of certainty is is this Brett Kavanaugh thing.

01:37:10.240 First of all, if you're defending Brett Kavanaugh and saying he absolutely did not do it.

01:37:16.840 You don't know that.

01:37:18.280 Don't be certain.

01:37:19.340 You don't know that.

01:37:20.580 It I have not seen credible facts on this to make me think that he did do this, but I don't know.

01:37:29.420 Nobody knows.

01:37:30.420 Apparently the only ones that know he and she, this is a he and he said, she said kind of scenario.

01:37:37.380 And the other guy who is there and also said, so it's a he and he and she.

01:37:42.580 Okay.

01:37:43.420 Now, yesterday she had another she come out and the evidence yesterday they were they were presenting this as see, there's another witnesses come forward.

01:37:52.340 The witness that came forward yesterday said, yeah, I remember there was a buzz in high school about this.

01:37:58.440 Okay.

01:37:59.680 Well, 24 hours later, she's come out again and said something different.

01:38:06.560 Yeah.

01:38:06.860 She's now saying, well, I didn't mean to say that, that I knew that he did this.

01:38:12.880 Now, in her tweets, she did say she said basically like, just admit it and say you're sorry and move on or something like that.

01:38:20.060 Um, she said that she heard a buzz about the incident and that it was kind of known that it had occurred today.

01:38:28.880 She's like, well, I never I never meant to suggest that I knew that anything happened.

01:38:33.760 She's like, I didn't I just wrote that on social media.

01:38:36.300 I didn't know I was going to have to defend myself on 50 cable channels.

01:38:40.020 Oh, my gosh.

01:38:40.940 Listen to this.

01:38:41.560 Yeah.

01:38:41.720 So this is this is what I wanted to get to with Judith.

01:38:45.280 But I don't think we could have gotten there just because of our politics, which was unfortunate.

01:38:50.860 And maybe it was just me that read it that way.

01:38:53.000 But this is what we should talk about.

01:38:55.960 Here's somebody who, if I remember right, Stu, her exact words were I was empowered.

01:39:02.500 Yeah.

01:39:03.040 On social media.

01:39:04.040 I was empowered on social media and I posted it.

01:39:06.180 I didn't think I'd have to defend it on 50 cable channels.

01:39:10.120 Right.

01:39:10.880 So I was empowered.

01:39:13.280 Now, think of this.

01:39:14.380 I'm empowered by social media to go on and say, just admit it.

01:39:19.300 You know, I heard a buzz about this.

01:39:20.700 Just admit it.

01:39:21.760 Now you're being asked to come on cable television.

01:39:24.400 You're being asked to testify under oath.

01:39:27.080 And she's like, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:39:29.140 I don't know if this really happened.

01:39:31.120 I don't have any proof.

01:39:33.220 That's the difference.

01:39:34.300 That is the addiction to outrage and the willingness just to be certain for posturing.

01:39:43.880 Just to be certain when you're absolutely not certain.

01:39:47.340 Yeah.

01:39:47.960 Yeah.

01:39:48.360 And we're, I mean, I don't know.

01:39:51.260 Some, I have a very low opinion, particularly of people in Washington.

01:39:54.800 And I try, you try to look at people as individuals.

01:39:58.560 And I just have to believe that, you know, they, you go home at night after a day of going on television and saying things like, they want to silence this accuser by inviting her to testify in front of America about her story and get more attention than it possibly could have ever had.

01:40:16.100 When you say things like that, you have to know what you're saying is, is, is a lie.

01:40:23.580 You have to know what you're saying.

01:40:25.080 Does it make sense?

01:40:25.860 You can't believe that you can't believe.

01:40:28.300 Let me play the other side.

01:40:29.300 Let me play the other side.

01:40:31.600 Uh, try to think, um, uh, they're trying to silence because try this out for size.

01:40:38.160 They're trying to silence because here's this woman who has been victimized. 0.88

01:40:41.460 Um, and they're going to get, get her up there. 0.99

01:40:44.940 And I mean, this is, this is hard for me to swallow if I actually have this point.

01:40:50.620 And you know what happens, you know what they do to people who are testifying.

01:40:54.480 They'll be saying horrible things about her.

01:40:57.000 The senators will be saying horrible things.

01:40:59.320 They won't really be questioning her.

01:41:01.640 They'll, they'll just make speeches.

01:41:03.960 Uh, the place will go in, you know, and, and people will be shouting by, I mean, basically you can't put her in that situation.

01:41:11.840 Because our side just did this to Kavanaugh.

01:41:14.320 Right.

01:41:14.880 Of course, they offered to do it in private.

01:41:17.180 So that even that doesn't work because it's not about, you know, I mean, I guess she'd be embarrassed in the room.

01:41:22.940 I don't, I, I don't know what the bottom line is.

01:41:25.860 What did you, what did you think?

01:41:27.040 There is no other evidence other than her.

01:41:28.800 Yeah, right.

01:41:29.420 There's no other evidence other than her saying it.

01:41:33.420 It's the same, there's the same amount of evidence of her claim as, as me saying I own Australia.

01:41:38.660 I just said it so that there, there's your evidence.

01:41:41.360 That's it.

01:41:42.240 There's nothing, there's nothing else here.

01:41:43.980 Well, now Australia has to answer for it.

01:41:45.300 Yeah, exactly.

01:41:46.400 So, but again, like, I think it's overtly disingenuous.

01:41:49.680 And the, even, it's not the question of whether, whether America believes these claims.

01:41:55.980 The left doesn't believe them.

01:41:57.820 The left does not believe the things they're saying right now.

01:42:00.920 And how do you, how, and, and, you know, this all goes down to the idea of the ends justifying the means.

01:42:08.300 We need to stop him because we think Kavanaugh's bad.

01:42:11.580 And we, if we can get past this election, we might win and we might have a chance to do our thing.

01:42:16.020 So, based on that, say or do anything to stop him.

01:42:20.960 Even if what you have to say is blatantly false, even if you have to accuse him of terrible, terrible things, even if you have to make arguments that are, are blatantly nonsensical, go ahead and, and do it.

01:42:34.980 And that, you know, that is a, that's like, you should never put yourself, I heard a woman on, I think we actually have the audio, I think of this, but she said the Republic, she said the Republicans are telling the accuser she will never be able to tell her story.

01:42:48.360 Now, first of all, she.

01:42:49.320 How, by asking her to invite her?

01:42:50.520 Number one, they asked her to come tell the story.

01:42:52.760 That's the request.

01:42:53.760 Here, listen to this real quick.

01:42:55.140 Dianne Feinstein handled this matter in the way that she handled it.

01:42:58.020 That has nothing to do with Dr. Ford and her right to be given a fair process, and nothing can be fair when she's being rushed, an arbitrary deadline.

01:43:07.720 There are no deadlines set for when this confirmation vote has to take place.

01:43:12.180 They've set this arbitrary deadline.

01:43:14.020 They've said to her, you provide us with your statement by Friday, you show up here by Monday, and if you don't, you will forever be forbidden from telling your story, your truth about me.

01:43:25.200 Areva.

01:43:26.080 Attempted rape.

01:43:26.840 I don't need to hear any of this.

01:43:28.660 I got it.

01:43:29.160 I got it.

01:43:29.580 So you will forever be forbidden, right?

01:43:31.700 Number one, as you point out, this is a story about her being asked to come talk about her story.

01:43:38.200 This is what the, that's what it is.

01:43:40.620 Number two, she will forever be forbidden to tell her story.

01:43:43.460 She had 36 years to tell her story.

01:43:47.580 And then finally, even if, let's say the Kavanaugh thing goes forward and he gets confirmed,

01:43:54.180 is there anything preventing her from telling her story after that?

01:43:57.560 Nope.

01:43:58.000 No.

01:43:58.640 The point is, it is of no value to Democrats if she tells it after that.

01:44:03.540 The only thing this is about is them blocking Kavanaugh.

01:44:06.840 They don't care about this woman at all if she actually had these abuse actually happened to her. 0.98

01:44:13.960 They are rooting for it to be true.

01:44:16.240 And that is disturbing.

01:44:17.260 So here's the thing.

01:44:18.800 I think you're right on this, but I also think that some, some people on the left look at this entirely differently and do believe it.

01:44:26.860 Okay.

01:44:27.280 They do believe this.

01:44:28.560 I don't think you can.

01:44:29.140 And here's, no, no, no.

01:44:30.680 Hear me out.

01:44:31.320 If you are a postmodernist social justice warrior, okay, so postmodernism has now been embedded into social justice.

01:44:42.740 And it's why it makes it so wicked, because you can believe this.

01:44:48.700 Here's what you believe.

01:44:50.300 And I'm not making this up.

01:44:52.220 This is how social justice coupled with postmodernism works.

01:44:57.540 Here's this victim.

01:44:59.180 She's a victim. 0.98

01:44:59.900 She's a woman. 0.82

01:45:01.140 Okay.

01:45:01.380 She's a part of an oppressed class. 0.99

01:45:03.240 All women are oppressed. 1.00

01:45:05.180 If she didn't experience it, someone else has experienced that very same thing.

01:45:11.320 So she's just a voice for all of those who have experienced this.

01:45:17.180 So we must believe her because we're no longer talking about her.

01:45:21.920 We're talking about the collective and we must stop men from doing this.

01:45:27.720 So we support her because she is going after the system, the patriarchy, the system that has repressed these women and kept women silent for so many years.

01:45:41.880 Okay.

01:45:42.400 Yeah.

01:45:42.620 And they absolutely believe that they can also absolutely believe that he is in it.

01:45:49.300 No, I can't say innocent.

01:45:50.320 He is.

01:45:50.980 He did not do it.

01:45:52.840 But it doesn't matter in the new postmodern social justice because of social justice.

01:45:58.860 We're looking at the collective and so if it didn't happen to her, it doesn't matter.

01:46:04.880 It's happened before.

01:46:05.900 If he wasn't the perpetrator, it doesn't matter because there's another cisgender male who has done this.

01:46:12.600 Yeah.

01:46:12.940 And so by getting him and supporting her, it provides the collective justice.

01:46:21.900 Yeah.

01:46:22.080 I mean, that's why you should be terrified of this kind of justice.

01:46:26.480 This is the argument of the OJ jurors, right?

01:46:28.680 I mean, they said, look, I don't know.

01:46:30.580 OJ may have killed that white woman, but they may have not have framed him.

01:46:34.420 But police have framed them before.

01:46:36.320 And black people have been falsely accused before.

01:46:38.560 Exactly right.

01:46:39.420 OJ is innocent.

01:46:40.440 I mean, the same thing.

01:46:40.880 And that and that comes from outrage.

01:46:43.860 That comes from anger.

01:46:45.020 That comes from a place of being ignored, of people not really talking about the issue.

01:46:49.900 And it will only get worse.

01:46:51.680 I have one more thing.

01:46:52.660 I just want to I just want to stress this.

01:46:55.580 Remember that the woman who came out yesterday said she was empowered.

01:46:59.520 She was empowered.

01:47:01.460 What does she mean by that?

01:47:03.180 She was empowered by the Internet.

01:47:05.600 Was she empowered by the people who liked and retweeted it?

01:47:09.420 Was she empowered by I'm suddenly popular?

01:47:12.680 Was she empowered by look?

01:47:15.340 Someone's listening to me.

01:47:17.020 Did she feel empowered because she was the one with the memory?

01:47:23.600 What what was she empowered by?

01:47:28.320 Well, how is that working?

01:47:30.100 Because it's working on all of us.

01:47:32.680 Why did she feel empowered to tell something and say things that the very next day when people took her seriously and she saw the ramifications of her words?

01:47:45.000 Why what made her so empowered to say these things that could destroy people one day and the next day go, wait, wait, wait, I know I don't even know if that's true.

01:47:57.140 That's a pretty powerful, dare I say it, hit of dopamine, jolt of dopamine.

01:48:06.060 There's some kind of drug that empowers you to do that.

01:48:10.620 You go into a lot of that in the book.

01:48:12.020 Addicted to Outrage, it is available right now at bookstores everywhere.

01:48:17.140 I didn't know that, Stu.

01:48:18.100 Thank you.

01:48:18.520 I just want to let you know.

01:48:19.060 All right.

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01:48:37.960 There's two things.

01:48:39.180 The House has to vote to impeach.

01:48:40.760 Then it goes to the deliberative body, the Senate, and they have a trial.

01:48:45.200 So it doesn't matter if they even have evidence.

01:48:47.720 They can impeach.

01:48:49.800 It's the trial that removes the president.

01:48:51.940 I believe they are going to impeach this president.

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01:50:19.940 Last night I recorded a podcast with Lewis House.

01:50:23.140 He's he does the School of Greatness.

01:50:25.240 That comes out, I think, next Wednesday.

01:50:27.080 He's he's just a just a real gentleman.

01:50:29.620 He's great.

01:50:30.420 Sunday, Ben Shapiro.

01:50:32.020 I'm on his Sunday conversations.

01:50:34.800 Adam Carolla next week.

01:50:36.480 Also, louder with Crowder today.

01:50:40.140 Live at three forty five.

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01:50:44.880 So it'll be, you know, YouTube and everything else.

01:50:47.060 That's three forty five Eastern time with with Stephen Crowder today.

01:50:53.560 Glenn back.

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 20, 2018

'Social Justice Postmodernism Madness'？ - 9⧸20⧸18

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