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00:00:13.660 man is our media just a massive dumpster fire i mean i i understand why so many people have said

00:00:22.800 i just can't watch any news anymore if you're watching msnbc or cnn

00:00:28.420 what am i doing kidding myself you weren't watching that anyway uh a former trump campaign

00:00:34.320 aide sam nunberg uh was on television all day yesterday what progressed throughout the day

00:00:41.700 it was a little hard to describe unless you're in aa it was almost as if nunberg was having a

00:00:48.800 complete and total meltdown and the media was well aware of it they knew it they knew it but they had

00:00:55.840 to put it on display to show everyone how crazy this former trump aide actually is

00:01:02.480 nunberg has let's just say a bit of a history with the trump team he was hired by the campaign

00:01:10.140 then he was fired then he was rehired then he was fired again and he's had his public squabbles with

00:01:15.220 trump and staffers like cory lewandowski and sarah huckabee sanders and some might say when it comes

00:01:21.640 to donald trump he has a dog in this fight so nunberg just calls up nbc out of the blue now he

00:01:29.920 you have to remember he is a guy who was questioned by muller's investigators recently as part of the

00:01:36.860 russian investigation and he did with you know what anyone with an axe to grind does he ran straight to

00:01:44.920 the mainstream media and what followed was the most sensationalized crap show i have ever seen

00:01:52.140 at no time did he give any evidence against donald trump nothing he has nothing but in interview after

00:02:01.720 interview after how many interviews did he do yesterday stew what was the final number four or

00:02:06.440 five at least every interview he implied that miller quote may have something on president trump

00:02:14.760 but and this is where he really makes his strong point here and i quote but i don't know for sure

00:02:22.260 oh my gosh stop the presses everybody he's got something and yet he has nothing

00:02:30.340 okay sam if you don't know at all then why are you saying you know i don't maybe it's because this is

00:02:43.700 some drunken crazy sideshow he pressed on with jake tapper now if you think it's hoping for something

00:02:51.660 more substantial to back up his allegations instead you got this boozy or doozy of a statement they know

00:02:58.740 something on donald trump and i'm quoting they know something on donald trump i don't know what it is

00:03:04.920 and perhaps i'm wrong but he did something oh my gosh how is trump walking around a free man with

00:03:14.420 evidence like that let me see if i have this right they know something i don't know what maybe i'm wrong

00:03:25.780 but he totally did something hmm man with logic like that he's been listening to the teenagers

00:03:35.280 in florida this was a total and complete meltdown in between making wild baseless accusations nunberg

00:03:44.980 took personal shots at members of the trump team and voiced his intention to ignore a subpoena from

00:03:51.020 robert muller now how does that make sense well i think it made perfectly good sense if your goal

00:03:58.200 is to hurt trump and his team why wouldn't you then be all on board cooperating with the russia

00:04:04.740 investigation of course he would and the media knows this they knew exactly what they were doing

00:04:11.800 putting this guy on multiple times yesterday on live national television nunberg had no business

00:04:20.380 being interviewed in the last interview cnn said well i i've i smell alcohol on your breath

00:04:27.580 he's just that's

00:04:29.100 his accusations were baseless he had clear motive to want to hurt trump who in his words treated me like

00:04:40.100 crap and in his wild bravado he defied muller which was obviously meant

00:04:49.240 only as a grandstand the media knew this but they ate it up like a kid eating eating lucky charms on

00:04:56.580 saturday morning when mom only makes him or lets him eat you know granola for the rest of the week

00:05:02.380 they weren't looking to report any news all they wanted to do was live stream a public meltdown from

00:05:10.060 a guy who used to work for the president if nunberg dodges muller supreme a subpoena then he should be

00:05:17.040 thrown in jail and to the media man

00:05:21.560 you're lucky you're in america you really are because any other dictator would throw you in jail

00:05:32.840 as well you're shameful shameful for what you're doing

00:05:37.360 it's tuesday march 6th this is the glenbeck program well hello america we have a great show for you

00:05:54.080 i think it may be sometime later this week but today's show is pretty good

00:05:58.120 as as well today we actually have a great show we have brad melzer uh coming in who is always

00:06:04.480 fascinating um on history and what's really happening in the world he has a new book out

00:06:10.500 called the escape artist which is the reviews are it's his best yet i just started reading it

00:06:16.920 and just the opening chapter is worth the price of admission um it starts with the line

00:06:24.680 uh something about harry houdini's uh partner was the was the first guy to really run the secret

00:06:33.140 service the u.s secret service it's the only time a magician has ever been in the secret service

00:06:39.400 the escape artist by brad melzer he's going to be with us also dave rubin is going to be with us and

00:06:46.040 can we play the dave rubin thing because i couldn't disagree with dave rubin more than his

00:06:54.800 prager university uh hit here's dave rubin on why he's no longer a progressive listen to this

00:07:01.000 do you believe in free speech do you believe that people should be judged by their character

00:07:06.600 not their skin color do you believe in freedom of religion if you believe these things you're

00:07:12.880 probably not a progressive you might think you're a progressive i used to think i was

00:07:18.340 my show the rubin report was originally part of the progressive young turks network

00:07:23.560 progressives struck me as liberals but louder progressives were the nice guys they looked

00:07:29.460 out for the little guy they cared about women and minorities they embraced change in short who

00:07:35.460 wouldn't want to be a progressive but over the last couple years the meaning of the word

00:07:40.560 progressive has changed progressives used to say i may disagree with what you say but i'll fight to

00:07:47.120 the death for your right to say it not anymore banning speakers whose opinions you don't agree with

00:07:53.540 from college campuses that's not progressive prohibiting any words not approved of as politically

00:08:00.220 correct that's not progressive putting trigger warnings on books movies music anything that might offend

00:08:07.340 people that's not progressive either all of this has led me to believe that much of the left

00:08:13.660 is no longer progressive but regressive he's absolutely right in in in all that he's saying except

00:08:22.500 historically and i think this is one problem that we have in america is people think they know what

00:08:29.660 progressive means but that's not it that was a trick by fdr taking the word liberal and attaching

00:08:37.520 that to the word progressive everything that he described is what the early 20th century progressive

00:08:43.860 believed all of those things but it was so scary to the american people after woodrow wilson

00:08:49.480 that it had to be relabeled and so it was fdr relabeling it liberal so that way people were confusing

00:08:56.560 like oh well these are the people that fight for my rights no these are the people that take your

00:09:00.640 rights away and they're on both sides of the aisle it's not a democratic thing it's a democrat and

00:09:05.860 republican thing this the progressive movement is very very american it is the american version of a

00:09:12.240 communist takeover that's what it is he is a fascinating guy and we're going to talk to him

00:09:17.860 about his conversion and how that's going for him the friends that he has lost uh and his his viewpoint

00:09:26.140 on what is really happening in america that is in our number three let's first start well let me

00:09:32.160 say hello to stew hello stew hi glenn how are you oh so good to see you again and i mean that so

00:09:36.860 deeply deeply the sincerity is dripping off of right in here someplace more kind of like where

00:09:43.380 my pancreas is i feel it is that is that where your pancreas i have no idea but you are a doctor

00:09:49.380 so i would assume you'd know you're right i am thank you for pointing that out i'd like to

00:09:53.400 uh make sure that you call me doctor for the rest of the day now um so let's talk about nunberg and

00:09:58.740 can we play some of the the super super highlights of his appearance on television let's first start

00:10:06.700 with msnbc because this is he's on the phone this is his first appearance of the day where um he's up

00:10:13.480 early but you know a lot of us alcoholics are up early not to say he's an alcoholic well but something's

00:10:21.220 going on here he's setting the scene a little bit i know you mentioned some of this but he was

00:10:24.480 he's not a fan of trump anymore so here's a guy i think he hang on just a second i think he is

00:10:30.280 he he definitely has an affinity for him however they've had massive disagreements he's been fired

00:10:36.600 but if trump would say to him come on back home he would come home you're probably right yeah now i

00:10:42.680 will say he has been the reason why he just gets on the air when he calls in is because he's a

00:10:48.860 very uh famous leaker he's no he's a source for a lot of these unsourced you know a person close

00:10:57.220 to a former trump advisor said a lot of that's numbered um he was he comes out and he's done a lot

00:11:03.400 of the books a lot of the kind of unsourced reports uh that's a lot of him he's friends with

00:11:07.920 bannon and friends with stone or was friends with bannon and friends with stone so he's in the he's in

00:11:13.840 the worst of the worst category so i don't i don't know which one is uh i'm honestly losing

00:11:20.120 track there's so many of them i think msnbc was the first one i don't have the yeah so let's let's

00:11:24.760 start here though with uh the actually on tapper here number god tapper was on his uh cooperation on

00:11:29.840 the subpoena uh this is from yesterday why are you refusing to cooperate with this subpoena

00:11:35.380 because it's absolutely ridiculous within questions from they requested first of all they sent me a

00:11:41.700 subpoena where they asked me after november 1 of 2015 did i communicate with carter page

00:11:49.100 cory lewandowski i mean i despise cory why would i communicate with him oh pick who was having an

00:11:56.540 affair with cory and i i would communicate i should give them every email from november 1 of 2015

00:12:05.000 to perpetuity with steve bannon and roger stone why why do i have to give that to the to the

00:12:13.400 government well i mean because it's a special prosecutor and he's requesting information you

00:12:19.680 know you know what would what would you say if it was a democrat same thing would you would you agree

00:12:26.200 would you agree that i would have to do that if i if they were investigating a democrat you would

00:12:30.940 yeah okay fine well you know what i don't think i should okay that's a great argument all right well

00:12:38.320 you know that's not the way the law works you know what they did they asked me for all of the stuff on

00:12:44.540 my computer from this day to this day why should i have to give it to them because because that's the

00:12:52.880 way the law works yeah that's the way to be you know why would they subpoena me on those things

00:12:59.020 because that again is the way the law says you have to turn it in it's a little thing called the

00:13:06.100 constitution it's a law thing it's it's a strange i mean look i kind of tend to agree with the analysis

00:13:12.540 that the media did not do a good job with this the guy's obviously having massive problems and

00:13:17.280 you don't just keep throwing them on the air over and over again uh i the first interview i can kind

00:13:22.560 of excuse the second one maybe yeah you know when we're getting down the road to aaron burnett

00:13:27.100 which we'll have here in a second it's way off the rails there's no reason here's here but here's

00:13:32.440 the this one is it's quite the clip uh jake tapper talking to number about sarah huckabee

00:13:38.240 and her appearance you know what you know what if sarah huckabee wanted the ones to start debasing me

00:13:46.480 she's a joke okay fine yeah she's unattractive she's a fat slob i'll be fine but that's not

00:13:54.000 relevant her her the person she works for has a 30 approval rating okay so if she wants to start

00:14:02.520 attacking me she can do that that's fun but we know it's a joke everybody knows it's a joke

00:14:09.220 okay did anybody notice that he has a really stuffy nose at this point

00:14:13.720 i'm just saying that it's i mean i hope he got allergy medicine

00:14:20.940 for that stuff he knows that he had at that point it is that season it is that season i've got the

00:14:29.200 zyrtec myself sometimes that makes you just say things you know and free will think out loud

00:14:36.820 sure does or it doesn't but again i know there was not a conversation about sarah huckabee's

00:14:43.240 appearance at this time he just knows and i love the way he brought it up and then said but what does

00:14:48.500 it have anything to do with anything you can tell why why trump liked him you could tell because it's

00:14:53.700 kind of a trump tactic right look it's not yeah sure he's a total loser he's failing but that's got

00:14:59.680 nothing to do with it it's just like it's kind of that tactic yeah it's good uh i mean it certainly

00:15:05.040 seems like perhaps and i i don't i don't necessarily have evidence of this um myself

00:15:11.800 however aaron burnett apparently had some okay he was maybe having an issue uh with alcohol uh here

00:15:17.780 is the clip from from from aaron burnett's show on cnn um talking to you i have smelled alcohol on

00:15:25.040 your breath well i i have not had a drink you haven't had a drink so that's not no i i just because

00:15:32.080 it is the talk out there again i know it's awkward let me just get give you the questions

00:15:35.540 you can categorically answer no you haven't had a drink today my answer is no i have not anything

00:15:41.040 else no no no besides my meds okay antidepressants is that okay yeah no i mean i'm not i'm just trying

00:15:51.640 to understand why would you say that what happened today they can say whatever they want i don't really

00:15:57.020 care that is a hell of a clue now again this is at least the third time he's been on cnn

00:16:05.800 that day that day yeah come on the first one all right second one and you know if you suspect follow

00:16:15.000 the guy in between where's he going if he's going to the bar you're pretty clear we used to work in

00:16:22.540 that building there's a bar right across the street all you have to do is look out the window you have

00:16:26.780 to walk downstairs to get into it all the cnn drunks hang out there you know where it is

00:16:32.020 you smelled alcohol you were at the bar next to him most likely

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00:18:07.760 glenn beck let's go to leonard in uh california hello leonard

00:18:15.300 hello progressivism yeah i'm sorry go ahead return the favor progressivism is always government answer

00:18:24.820 more bureaucracy more cost more burden we need a paradigm shift it's uh progressivism always makes

00:18:33.120 things progressively worse um yeah i would uh i would tend to agree with that well only in all

00:18:40.100 circumstances though you know what stew i don't appreciate i don't know i'm drinking i don't

00:18:45.280 appreciate you even implying that but you're you're right i think on that except in all circumstances

00:18:50.840 thanks len how are things in california glenn i'm i'm a regulatory consultant you send somebody from

00:18:57.580 the blaze out here i'll blow up jerry brown in california you won't believe it wait wait wait

00:19:03.560 how do you how do you mean uh i mean sell me i i have i have a friend who's a former head of of the

00:19:11.520 agency that that covered regulation out here he calls some of these agencies evil i said what do you

00:19:17.820 mean they have perfected the denial of due process i kid you not oh no i i believe that i tell you

00:19:24.620 what leonard hang on i do want to get your information and uh we'll have somebody from the

00:19:28.600 blaze uh reach out to you i mean due process this is something that we're covering tonight on on

00:19:33.420 television um the we're going to do a two-part series tonight at five o'clock you don't want to

00:19:40.200 miss this please don't miss this we are blaming everything and everybody but the government is

00:19:50.060 only blaming us okay now they may not blame you but they're blaming us as collective and as we say

00:19:59.480 we got to do something oh they do something they absolutely do something and we begin to lay it all

00:20:06.020 out tonight and why we need a paradigm shift in thinking tonight five o'clock only on the blaze tv

00:20:15.720 that's the blaze.com slash tv glenn beck mercury

00:20:22.980 you're listening to the glenn beck program hey welcome back to the program um you know i i want

00:20:39.660 to i want to talk a little bit about this uh unwillingness to uh condemn farrakhan uh by the

00:20:45.460 democrats even jake tapper was uh saying you know what's what's the deal here why won't anybody do

00:20:50.720 this it's interesting um wish you would have asked that i don't know 10 years ago when it was uh when

00:20:57.120 it was happening with the democrats we were questioning that now uh it's getting worse and

00:21:03.040 worse and worse and farrakhan is a really bad guy i don't know well let me just let me just play

00:21:08.620 no no what evidence do you have you calling up somebody a bad guy on the radio i have not been

00:21:13.840 drinking and i don't appreciate the accusation sorry the the the idea here that he's a bad a bad

00:21:20.920 guy i'm gonna let you decide this is what he has said let's play um farrakhan proclaims the powerful

00:21:28.160 jews are my are my enemy speech given just a few days ago jews were responsible for all of this

00:21:35.880 filth and degenerate behavior that hollywood is putting out turning men into women and women into

00:21:44.120 men the powerful jews are my enemy

00:21:49.400 and scared to death negros

00:21:56.840 are my enemy

00:22:01.400 and weak

00:22:07.560 muslims

00:22:10.120 and hypocrites

00:22:12.600 are his enemy um okay that was just one piece of evidence but let's let's go to uh

00:22:19.320 cut two please white folks are going down

00:22:26.120 and satan is going down

00:22:31.720 and farrakhan by god's grace has pulled the cover off

00:22:38.440 of that satanic jew wow the satanic jew

00:22:42.760 that's nice and i'm here to say

00:22:48.040 your time is up

00:22:49.560 okay so this is what the press thought the tea party was saying okay this is exactly what they

00:22:59.480 thought the tea party was saying except it wasn't about whites it was uh about blacks and

00:23:05.480 yeah i think they probably still thought we thought that about jews yeah okay i don't remember ever

00:23:09.320 hearing anything like that at any no no okay all right but now let's listen to jake tapper on cnn

00:23:17.560 after the media after c well after jake tapper tries to get a few democrats to say

00:23:24.840 yeah i won't uh i i i disavow

00:23:27.960 you know louis farrakhan listen um several leaders of the women's march um uh were uh

00:23:34.600 are supporters of farrakhan and have not uh condemned him uh members of the congressional

00:23:39.320 black caucus who have met with him were asked for their comments and one of them congressman danny

00:23:42.920 davis not only refused to denounce farrakhan uh he said the world is bigger than him and his jewish

00:23:49.480 question uh why can we stop for just a second can we just stop for a second you know i think if you have

00:23:56.760 to defend somebody and you say you know he's bigger than his quote jewish question

00:24:03.880 i would i would think that that automatically uh should be a just a red flag that there's storm

00:24:10.600 on the horizon yeah it's an indication you should maybe go to the other team yeah anyone who has a

00:24:16.360 jewish question i mean that's a pretty small pool isn't it i mean i know hitler had one yeah

00:24:22.280 himmler had one i will say the question seems to be the same uh it does between what are we going

00:24:28.280 to do with all those jews yeah you know uh so i think if you have if you're defending somebody who

00:24:34.920 has a jewish question you might want to reevaluate your friendship but i digress go ahead for some

00:24:41.880 people to condemn a rabid anti-semite who is also a misogynist and anti-lgbtq it should not be um but

00:24:50.520 this the reason this is relevant to our political world is as you just noted that there's disagreements

00:24:55.960 that people are going to be asked if they're going to denounce it for good reason and there

00:24:59.880 will be alignments that have been together women the cbc others that will have division over this um

00:25:06.920 why can't people um criticize it i mean past relationships their own caucuses and constituencies

00:25:14.120 sometimes play but it's still hard to understand it's a pretty low bar to denounce something like

00:25:19.240 that and the people who are you know supporting the women's march what are they out there supporting

00:25:23.240 for equality and all this stuff and that is the opposite of equality so how is that that hard to

00:25:27.400 denounce and it shouldn't be it shouldn't be yeah it really shouldn't be and in fact you wouldn't be

00:25:33.320 just talking about uh it shouldn't be on television if it wasn't democrats involved you would be saying

00:25:39.400 they're all racist you wouldn't say they it just shouldn't be hard you would be saying they're obviously

00:25:46.680 racist if they will not deny this relationship that was the standard i mean when trump was asked

00:25:53.080 about david duke and just didn't he didn't say he he wasn't outwardly supporting david duke he just

00:25:58.920 didn't immediately denounce never been in pictures with him he's never now for instance let me play this

00:26:03.640 let me play this here's louis farrakhan not denouncing keith ellison but it's really kind of

00:26:11.160 important to hear keith's relationship keith ellison you ain't got a picture of keith well let me talk

00:26:19.240 about him

00:26:24.440 now keith was in the nation in 1995 he was selling the final call newspaper beautiful brother

00:26:34.920 and

00:26:41.080 being in minnesota i think that's where he's from

00:26:45.640 he wants to help his community he's a lawyer so he wants to help his community so he wants to

00:26:52.760 become a congressman you do

00:26:59.160 wouldn't that farrakhan that you were with

00:27:05.080 that is my brother

00:27:07.720 yeah but i'm not here to bash him

00:27:11.080 i'm not here to bash my brother

00:27:14.680 let me tell you something when you want something in this world

00:27:18.440 did you hold the door ah okay so he's not he's saying uh keith ellison was a guy who was distributing

00:27:29.160 these pamphlets now can i ask you um can you imagine if the guy who was you know uh towards the top of

00:27:38.840 the the gop was was you know i don't know the the website designer or you know a guy who just did the

00:27:47.400 website updates on der stormer

00:27:51.080 you imagine that no hey what was what's your relationship with the nazi party i don't know

00:27:57.320 nothing okay in 95 i was doing the updates for der stormer

00:28:03.560 okay that's a minor point yeah would that person be anywhere near the top of the gop

00:28:12.840 i don't think so i don't think so and i would hope not now we've no but i will tell you this

00:28:17.080 the press would be all over der stormer that's true now we did have a grand what uh wizard of

00:28:26.200 the kkk was a prominent senator for many many years in the other party robert bird yeah that was kind

00:28:32.280 of a thing uh-huh um but yeah you're right i think the gop but the gop the trent lott was escorted

00:28:39.160 out of the gop for just saying right happy birthday you know this guy's done a lot of great stuff

00:28:45.080 yeah that's you can have the grand wizard in the democratic party but you can have the republican

00:28:51.320 party say you know i think he's done a lot of great things over his uh on his birthday it's it's

00:28:56.760 it's a right it's a question of treatment right the adl came out properly and hammered uh farrakhan

00:29:03.800 and the things he was saying um and they actually took to task a little bit the democrats for not

00:29:10.040 uh standing up against him but listen to this phrasing because i mean the adl has come after

00:29:14.360 you a couple times uh yeah a guy who's one defender of israel of israel award right right like when you

00:29:21.960 will say something you'll compare something to nazis yes and they will say you should never compare

00:29:28.280 something to nazis and they'll get very mad at you this has happened a few times yeah you only want

00:29:31.800 to talk about nazis when they are nazis oh wow look what they've turned into nazis now listen to this

00:29:37.720 you just heard the guy just basically blaming every problem in the united states on jews yes okay

00:29:43.480 this is not this is not you made a comparison that you some people didn't like right he's he's he's

00:29:49.720 blaming he's saying jews are his enemy well the satanic jews the satanic jews listen to this

00:29:56.840 because of farrakhan's reach and influence and his broad name recognition and something like celebrity

00:30:01.320 status some public officials politicians and hip-hop entertainers are still willing to meet with him

00:30:06.040 still willing to have their pictures taken with him they seemingly have a blind spot when it comes

00:30:11.000 to his anti-semitism there's no way it's not a blind spot it's the whole focus of every speech no a

00:30:16.920 blind spot is take it from a guy who has eye problems so i know what a blind spot is yeah that's a little

00:30:23.240 portion of your vision that's blurry right okay yeah you can't really make out that little part you have

00:30:30.520 to be completely blind on lewis farrakhan yes the blind spot may be wow he eats breakfast

00:30:39.640 he's a human i didn't i i didn't see that one coming enjoys a nice blueberry crumb muffin

00:30:45.640 that's your blind spot with lewis farrakhan and we should point out here by the way yes that uh the

00:30:51.400 wonderful uh uh teenagers uh from uh from the terrible tragedy in parkland yes who've been going

00:30:59.160 on bill maher and hanging up on the president and calling him the f word over and over again and

00:31:03.560 everyone cheers which is a really good thing to encourage in a teenager no it's great uh make sure

00:31:08.360 entire crowds cheer when they say the f word good idea guys yeah um but they are doing this march uh for

00:31:14.680 uh whatever you know lives i guess it's called in a couple of weeks in washington dc and as you

00:31:20.200 correctly noticed almost immediately it was strange how giant celebrities donated hundreds of

00:31:26.520 thousands of dollars to this it was two million to walk yeah i mean it takes millions of dollars

00:31:33.560 to four million dollars for people like oprah and and uh and sure george clooney yeah what what

00:31:40.200 organization were they donating it to yeah well of course after a little investigation we we found out

00:31:45.720 that it was a lot of the women's march leaders uh who would put together these uh these events

00:31:51.640 and this is from the adl in the audience of last weekend's conference in the audience of the speech

00:31:58.120 you just heard was tamika mallory one of the leaders of the women's march who got a special shout

00:32:05.000 out from farrakhan and who regularly posts laudatory pictures of him on her instagram account as does

00:32:11.720 carmen perez another leader of the women's march linda sarsour another march organizer spoke and

00:32:19.000 participated at a nation of islam event in 2015 okay so you're calling them radicals

00:32:26.200 and i don't appreciate that i don't know why you continue to say you could smell alcohol in my breath

00:32:30.680 i can't you can't smell i believe medication and cocaine well yeah a little bit of morphine right

00:32:37.160 that's all those are all medication everybody can get those over the counter listen uh you're calling

00:32:44.280 them extremists just because they are participating in the event or listening to der fuhrer

00:32:53.320 and some high up in the parter have a party have distributed their stormer what is the problem

00:33:01.000 right what is the problem here i think the problem might be obvious it might be obvious no no it's

00:33:07.880 a you could easily miss it a little teeny blind spot

00:33:11.000 you know you know what you know what the real problem is uh

00:33:25.000 the fundamental transformation of the united states it's happening it's well on its way

00:33:31.720 we're in i think the final phases of it uh and we have accepted as a society the ends justify the means

00:33:41.560 you know when when when they were saying on cnn well you know it shouldn't be but there's a lot of

00:33:47.000 quote past alignments and past cooperation you should never be cooperating with the nation of islam ever

00:33:56.520 ever i don't care i mean unless you believe all of that crap you should never do that

00:34:04.040 it worked it really didn't work out well for mussolini um it won't work out well for you

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00:35:56.360 glenn beck mercury

00:35:58.920 glenn beck sam harris bill maher trying to have a conversation with ben affleck about radical islam

00:36:12.680 listen to this every criticism of the doctrine of islam gets conflated with bigotry toward muslims as

00:36:19.320 people right that is it's intellectually ridiculous even if it gets so hold on are you the person who

00:36:25.400 understands the officially codified doctrine of islam you're the interpreter of that so you can say

00:36:29.880 well this is i think any i'm actually well educated on this topic i'm asking you so you're saying if i

00:36:34.040 criticize that you're saying that islamophobia is not a real thing that if you're critical of

00:36:37.960 something well it's not a real thing when we do it right well no it really isn't i'm not denying

00:36:43.320 that that certain people are bigoted against muslims as people that and that's a problem big of you

00:36:47.480 but the why are you so hostile about this it's gross it's racist it's not it's but it's so

00:36:53.800 not so it's like saying so not you're shifty jew you're not listening to what we are saying you

00:36:59.400 guys are saying if you want to be liberals believe in liberal principles right freedom of speech like

00:37:03.240 um you know we are endowed by our forefathers with inalienable eyes like all men are created

00:37:07.320 no we have to be stop do you notice what he's doing here he's mocking the principle of freedom of

00:37:14.600 speech and he also changed in sentence oh yeah we're all endowed by our create by our founders

00:37:22.040 with certain inalienable rights oops glenn beck mercury

00:37:32.120 love courage truth glenn beck so the senator from the great state of mississippi thad cochran has

00:37:42.760 announced that he is retiring at the end of this month due to health issues now he's in the prime

00:37:47.640 of his life he's 80 years old he's the 10th longest serving senator in u.s history gone so soon he's

00:37:56.680 been a senator since 1978 how old were you in 1978 i was 14 when he started uh he was the uh the first

00:38:09.160 republican to win a statewide election in mississippi in over a century cochran's retirement now means both

00:38:15.880 mississippi senate seats are now up for grabs this november if cochran had been a strong

00:38:21.560 conservative his longevity might have been a good thing uh unfortunately he's been a classic big

00:38:27.560 government spendthrift republican instead and to make it worse he's the chairman of the appropriations

00:38:35.080 committee for conservative voters interested in replacing establishment republicans with actual

00:38:40.920 conservatives a mississippi state senator named chris mcdaniel provided a spark of hope when he almost

00:38:47.240 beat cochran in 2014 mcdaniel is currently running against primary challenge against the junior

00:38:54.040 mississippi republican senator roger wicker who's another old school establishment guy the timing of

00:39:01.480 cochran's announcement a lesser man would say was intentional but it is at least something that stinks

00:39:11.560 for mcdaniel true conservatives don't like it either because mcdaniel might have a better shot at winning

00:39:17.960 the special election to replace cochran than he would in unseating roger wicker by waiting until yesterday

00:39:24.520 to announce his resignation cochran basically forced mcdaniel to race against wicker still it's possible

00:39:32.440 mcdaniel could switch races and run for cochran's seat we don't know how probable that is at this point

00:39:38.520 now republican mississippi governor phil bryant has 10 days to appoint an interim senator to replace

00:39:44.600 cochran in april conservatives don't get your hopes up those close to governor bryant are all wet

00:39:51.480 already saying that he's not gonna pick chris mcdaniel to be cochran's temporary replacement

00:39:58.280 president trump and mitch mcconnell are encouraging governor bryant to appoint himself as the interim

00:40:05.080 senator oh they're paranoid about a race with mcdaniel turning out like the alabama senate special

00:40:12.920 election last november in which a reliably republican senate seat was lost to a democrat doug jones

00:40:19.640 then again cochran did set his resignation date as april 1st so who knows i mean maybe this is all an april

00:40:29.400 fools joke

00:40:36.120 it's tuesday march 6th this is the glenbeck program brad melzer welcome to the program

00:40:45.400 i love hearing your voice ah you know what i you are one of my favorite guests you're one of my

00:40:51.720 favorite writers one of my favorite people and favorite historians i mean it doesn't get any better

00:40:56.840 i pre listen vice right back to you we've been together a long time my friend since i had hair

00:41:01.960 i don't think you had that much hair then well it was at least one there was one charlie brown style

00:41:07.800 yes there was one hair when you had when we first met so brad uh i have to be honest with you i'm

00:41:14.040 reading about 600 books right now uh and i'm i'm it helps for me to have them on audio tape so i started

00:41:20.840 early this morning on your book uh and i'm not there but i will read it and i want to have you back

00:41:26.280 when i finish the book uh because i know i'm going to find all kinds of things about history in here

00:41:32.120 uh that uh that you know that is always something great i want to start however uh with the

00:41:39.800 beginning uh and this isn't going to wreck anything there's two things that i have to have

00:41:45.640 you tell the story right away first the opening hang on right before the opening there is

00:41:53.960 it's my favorite page one that we've ever had the escape artist definitely has my favorite page one

00:41:58.760 one we've ever done so i don't know if you count this as page one um because i think i know what

00:42:04.200 you're talking about but this is my page one i want to start here in 1898 john yeah john elbert

00:42:10.360 wilkie a friend of harry houdini was put in charge of the united states secret service wilkie was a fan

00:42:16.200 of houdini and did his own tricks himself it's the only time in history that a magician was in control

00:42:22.520 of the secret service oh my god what a great opening tell me the tell me the true story of this

00:42:28.680 first it's an incredible story i couldn't shake it for the better part of uh you know years and years

00:42:33.960 now and i just figured how do you know how is a magician in control of the secret service and

00:42:38.760 none of us know this from history and i looked into it and harry houdini had his own secret service

00:42:45.560 um this was something that uh you know is what they used to do is they used to go to town early and i

00:42:51.400 don't want to ruin the book as you'll see in the escape artist you know it's fiction it's a thriller

00:42:54.840 but i always build it around real facts it's a modern day thriller but i saw this detail from

00:42:58.680 history and what he did was his his private secret service would go to towns early they would figure

00:43:05.560 out what handcuffs the police wore and use so that harry houdini could pick them they figured out what

00:43:10.040 kind of locks were on the jail cells that was how he did the magic trick but what i traced it back to

00:43:14.600 even more glenn and you'll appreciate this part if it's not the first time it happened that the

00:43:19.000 government used a magician because there was a man who worked for abraham lincoln who was also a

00:43:25.080 magician and he used to do rope tricks and escapes and abraham lincoln during the civil war thought he

00:43:31.800 make a great spy so he hired him in the civil war this man eventually grew up i don't want to ruin his

00:43:37.160 name because it'll ruin something in the book but this man eventually grew up and became such good

00:43:42.680 friends with lincoln he's one of the people who was at lincoln's deathbed and then eventually this

00:43:46.520 man became friends with harry houdini and this is all real it's an unbelievable lost part of history

00:43:52.360 that i found and when i built the escape artist i just thought this is what's going to be at the

00:43:57.560 core of it and the thing about harry houdini that i just adore is harry houdini was so obsessed with

00:44:02.920 death that he used to give his secret service and his closest friends secret passwords that if they

00:44:09.640 came back from the dead it would be a code word only he would know and they would know so he would

00:44:14.200 know if it was really them during a seance because he used to always try and disprove people who were

00:44:18.360 doing seances and the story then the password that harry houdini gave to his mother was a single word

00:44:25.880 glenn forgive forgive and that was the i realized the entire lesson for me writing this book is that

00:44:34.760 all of us in our lives we have craters that we're in whether it's addiction whether it's abuse whether

00:44:40.680 it's just a loss of a loved one um we have moments where the only way we're going to ever get out and

00:44:46.200 escape the escape artist ourselves is if we forgive and we have to start that forgiveness with ourselves

00:44:50.920 and i learned it from a guy named harry houdini so before i go on harry houdini is it true that he was

00:44:59.080 uh a spy for the united states government i think under wilson yeah he was a spy what he used to do is it

00:45:07.160 it wasn't that he went in and you know you know what he helped us with was actually smuggling he

00:45:11.720 was really good at that he was good hiding stuff and then the other thing he was really good at is

00:45:16.120 he used to go to the top foreign leaders uh homes he used to go to the equivalents of the white house

00:45:21.960 and other part in other countries so he'd report back and say here's what security is like here's

00:45:26.200 what happens when you walk in and that's the great trick of harry houdini he can go anywhere he's

00:45:30.200 the most famous man in the world do you know if uh the story about him with the czar and rasputin

00:45:36.600 is true where he made i've heard that story i don't know you know what it was one of the ones i i i

00:45:41.400 don't know if it's true it's a good story i remember hearing it i don't know it as well um but you know

00:45:46.440 what i realized when i when i was writing the book is that you know when you think of the idea of a

00:45:51.480 magician being in charge of the secret service that was my jumping off point and i just thought how do

00:45:56.440 i not use that today um and so you know what and one of the things we have to talk about is dover

00:46:01.480 air force base yeah so just them yeah right so i want to get to i want to get to hang on just a

00:46:05.960 second um who's in control here when did i lose control of this show no no i just i want to make

00:46:11.880 sure we you know this is the i know i know you're gonna love that i can't do with anyone because no

00:46:15.960 one has the appreciation you have for it so here is the here is the the uh opening line that i thought

00:46:22.200 you might be referring to because i think this is one of the best opening line uh in the

00:46:26.280 prologue these were the last 32 seconds of her life no um you you and before we get into dover this

00:46:35.240 will kind of take you there um you've set up in just the prologue a uh scenario that i didn't have

00:46:44.760 any idea uh was even real so i started doing some homework and i also read your uh your washington post

00:46:52.840 uh article um you have this character she knows something the plane is going down she knows this

00:47:01.320 is no accident and she's trying to make sure that she survives to tell people this isn't an accident

00:47:08.360 she jumps out i want you to talk about that if that's even real she jumps out of the plane hoping

00:47:13.720 that she's going to be able to survive as it's going down everybody everything is on fire and she she

00:47:19.560 writes a note but she wants to make sure that if she dies the medical examiner finds the note

00:47:27.080 tell me how you came up with this yeah this is an incredible story and built again it's all fiction

00:47:35.080 nola is my is the character referring to is my favorite uh character i think i've ever written

00:47:40.280 and it's because she comes from reality and first of all yes jumping out of the plane when you get to the

00:47:45.880 top of the treetops that was given to me by air force rangers and all the things you see this is

00:47:51.400 a built uh a book built with the help of the military that's who gave me all this stuff the

00:47:56.440 military has been incredible and one of the things that she does in that moment she eats the sheet of

00:48:00.200 paper and when i you know you know me when i do a book i always bring it to the experts and i said to

00:48:05.080 the medical examiners at dover air force base and uh and dover is the place where we all know

00:48:10.360 our fallen soldiers go i didn't know that dover is also the place that gets the world's biggest

00:48:14.840 cases so the space shuttle goes down 9 11 happens those bodies also go to dover and any secret spy

00:48:21.400 around the globe that we're not supposed to know what they're doing when something happens to them

00:48:25.720 they go to dover too so dover is a place that's built on secrets and mysteries so of course i had

00:48:30.440 to look into it and i went there and i said hang on just a second hang on just a second but it is

00:48:34.920 is it mainly the the top of the line forensic uh and uh and and mortuary if you will that's

00:48:45.320 exactly what's that dover air force base is is the dover port mortuary is the place that uh not

00:48:50.840 only does the medical examining side but also does the um mortician side of of laying our soldiers to

00:48:57.400 rest so they will as an example and they're so incredible there they will spend 14 hours you know if

00:49:03.800 you get a normal funeral home and you get this figured they'll close your coffin it's a closed

00:49:09.160 casket and they'll bury you but at dover the families of our heroes our fallen soldiers they

00:49:14.600 don't really believe it until they see their son or daughter so they will spend the people there at

00:49:19.640 dover will spend 14 hours redoing and rebuilding the cheekbones of someone's cheek so they can see

00:49:26.280 their child one last time let me true story it is they once built someone's hand rebuilt the whole

00:49:31.560 hand because a mother specifically said i want to hold my son's hand one last time these are heroes

00:49:36.360 let me uh let me from the washington post you wrote when a soldier's body comes home morticians can

00:49:41.160 rebuild hands rather than giving them fake prosthesis so that a mother can hold her hand her son's hand one

00:49:47.240 final time they'll spend 14 straight hours wiring together a fallen soldier's shattered jaw then smoothing

00:49:53.000 it over with clay and makeup just so his parents can have far more ease than they would then

00:49:58.680 they should have ever expected at their son's funeral that's remarkable it is it is what inspired

00:50:05.800 the escape artist you know i've been to the white house i've been to all the places i've done all my

00:50:09.560 thrillers set in real spots and shown the secret tunnels below the white house but when i got to

00:50:13.880 dover i was humbled i was humbled and i and i found out about it because i was on a uso tour i was in

00:50:19.800 the middle east entertaining our troops i do uso tours i just did one recently for them last month another

00:50:24.920 one what do you what do you what what what do you do on the tour entertaining the troops they bring

00:50:30.440 they bring six i know you're thinking i do like a dallas cowboy cheerleader yeah i'm just thinking

00:50:35.000 you know you and something low cut and lacy is not necessarily what we should be sending we need

00:50:39.560 right well they send they send six thriller writers every year is what they do um because

00:50:44.120 there are people who love obviously you know the country singers that are out there and god bless

00:50:48.120 them all they're wonderful but there are people who are just readers yeah and they just want good

00:50:51.800 thrillers and that's what they read they read our books so i've been over there for you know i love

00:50:55.320 doing the events it was there that i found out about dover and really what they do beyond just

00:50:59.960 taking care of the fallen soldiers the whole you know everything that you've just said and i was

00:51:04.200 humbled i was like i need to write about these people i need heroes for my new book the world is

00:51:09.160 starving for heroes right now we're all starving for heroes and here's where i saw real heroes this was

00:51:14.360 the best of the best of us working on our fallen soldiers the true best and the best of us okay

00:51:19.800 so when it was so hang on so when we come back when we come back i had to take a quick break i want

00:51:23.800 you to to take us back into the airplane and the the the hero that is jumping out of the plane

00:51:30.760 and says i need in my autopsy i need them to find what the truth is and what's just happened on this

00:51:38.200 plane uh we'll get to that because it's the way you found out this is fascinating in just a second

00:51:49.800 the book is the escape artists it is out today uh it's available of course everywhere books are sold

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00:53:28.360 glenn beck brad melzer who is one of my favorite people on the planet um he's just uh he's just driven by

00:53:35.800 by the same things that i think uh i'm driven by and and many of our listeners are driven by uh

00:53:40.760 he's a great great writer uh and he writes something that i've i've coined faction uh it's it's

00:53:48.680 yes it's fiction but it's got so many facts in it that you will spend your time on google going wait a minute is that

00:53:55.480 true uh and it just makes the book for me it makes the book so much better the new book it's out today the

00:54:02.760 escape artist it is his best to date in fact uh harlan cohen said it is not since the girl with the

00:54:11.320 dragon tattoo have we seen a character like this holy cow brad that's high praise um listen uh i i

00:54:20.680 feel um it's not fair to the girl with the dragon tattoo i'll take that compliment any day yeah i'll take

00:54:26.200 it any day so let's um let's talk about uh this character um it starts off with her writing down

00:54:35.080 stuff that she knows she's like this this is not an accident and they were going to deem it an accident

00:54:39.640 i know why this plane is going down she takes out a piece of paper and she eats it as she jumps out of

00:54:47.240 the plane tell the origin of this so again in a moment that truly blew my mind when i'm researching a

00:54:55.720 fictional thriller to hear this real life story and that is i went to the friends at dover people

00:55:01.240 who've worked there in the past too and said you know if if i wanted to hide a secret note on the

00:55:08.440 on someone's body could you do it how would you do it because that's how the book opens the chapter one

00:55:13.720 is um you see that nola winds up being dead in a plane crash and our hero is laying her to rest he

00:55:21.320 works at dover and finds this hidden note inside her body so i was like can you actually do it

00:55:26.040 and they said to me if you're on a plane and the plane is going down you could eat the note and the

00:55:32.360 liquids in your stomach would actually protect the paper and they they said it was the ultimate

00:55:38.200 message in a bottle is how they described it and i thought oh that's a really cool story and they

00:55:41.560 said no no it's not a story it happened i said what are you talking about they said it happened on 9-11

00:55:46.520 and they told me this true story that on 9-11 when the pentacon victims on flight 77 came to dover

00:55:56.040 that when they opened one of the bodies there was a secret note inside one of the victims stomachs

00:56:01.400 now what do you i mean first question you got to ask glenn you know what it is right yes what did

00:56:08.120 it say what did it say that's all i i mean i almost fell i could tell you where i was standing

00:56:12.760 when he when he told that it was unbelievable i can never forget that moment and in that moment

00:56:19.480 of course they wouldn't tell me i respect the privacy of that but i thought to myself it must be

00:56:24.200 someone in the military who else would have the wherewithal to in the moment when a plane is going

00:56:29.160 down and you're you know trapped by terrorists to actually leave a final note in you know this

00:56:34.120 ultimate message in a bottle and then i realized that as i look at that note i think that the person

00:56:41.160 writing it was doing and searching for what we all search for every day connection right that's all

00:56:47.160 we need is we want to love and we want to be loved and i can tell you glenn that when my parents

00:56:53.240 both died the one moment of solace that i took in that in that true chaos was i got to say goodbye

00:57:00.200 to them my mom died of breast cancer my dad of heart disease and i knew that it was coming so thank

00:57:05.640 god i got to say goodbye to them and that's why i take hope from that note because what that person

00:57:10.920 was doing when they wrote that note and what that note did was exactly what it was designed to do

00:57:15.720 it was proof that when we reach out in the universe when we put out that message in a bottle

00:57:20.840 that we will be heard and that inspires me and it was delivered to the person it was meant for

00:57:28.840 correct uh you know they would not say for sure but i'll just say to you i got that feeling that

00:57:34.760 that note made its home okay you said it to me and you know just a few million people too so

00:57:39.240 i just want to remind you of that uh when you're sharing secrets with me back in a minute back mercury

00:57:56.280 this is the glenn back program we're talking to uh brad melzer he is the host of uh lost history on

00:58:03.880 uh h2 history channel um decoded um his uh uh show decoded also on the history channel hollywood

00:58:12.360 reporter just put him on their list of hollywood's 25 most powerful authors holy cow is that a good

00:58:20.200 thing for you or a bad thing for you i don't think they understand what powerful means in hollywood

00:58:25.240 i don't think so either um we knew there were errors out there but this was a a just you know

00:58:32.040 kind of a obscene one have you um uh has any of your movie or your books been made into movies yet

00:58:38.760 you know they bought the rights but um no they haven't we you know they've written scripts the

00:58:43.880 best one was glenn is you'll appreciate this they they one of the books was all about uh gambling on

00:58:50.840 congress that i did a number of years ago and they hired this screenwriter who like you know was

00:58:54.840 nominated for an oscar and they paid him obscene amounts of money and then he called me up and he

00:58:58.120 said so he was a british guy and he said so you have a two-party system of government

00:59:07.480 thank you it's good and you're a writer too that's good that's good um so brad i have used you in the

00:59:15.320 past as a a sounding board on on things i'll you know i've called you up from time to time over the

00:59:20.760 years and said so brad how would this work if this were going on or what does this make sense

00:59:27.720 uh truth is stranger than fiction because truth has to make sense life has to make sense can you

00:59:35.560 make sense out of our world today uh that's all i'm trying to do every day um and you know i have

00:59:42.280 to believe you know and you know our bond has always been about history and i truly believe

00:59:47.720 that history always tells us in a strange odd way the future even though it's the past and the one

00:59:55.000 thing that i do believe as i look at the world we live in right now is that after the darkness must

01:00:00.760 come the light and it takes the people who are acknowledge and will push into that light to get

01:00:07.880 there um you know it always goes back to me to dr king and dr king when he was a little boy he had this uh

01:00:15.720 he obviously is african-american he's black one of his best friends was white and the little white

01:00:20.040 boy refuses to play with him anymore because his father doesn't want him to go into the same school

01:00:24.040 doesn't want to play together and dr king as a boy says he hated that boy he just hated him for

01:00:29.560 everything he was doing for what he stood for the instant of his dad all these things and he came home

01:00:34.840 to his parents all ready to hate him and his mom gave him the best lesson in life and said that when

01:00:39.480 someone shows you hate you show him love and that that's what you have to do and to me it's so hard

01:00:46.760 right so much makes us so angry today so much seems like so much chaos but i have to believe and use

01:00:52.440 that as the lesson that when you go through the darkness you can get to the light and uh and that's

01:00:57.160 the only thing i can push to how much do you how much of that do you how much of that is wishful

01:01:03.240 thinking and i mean listen it's my dream and it's my hope it's my faith and and it's you know and it

01:01:09.800 and this absolute wishful thinking you know because there are days i'm so angry and i'm so mad and i

01:01:14.200 see you know one of the things and you've talked about this with our kids books is in the last year

01:01:20.360 as the presidential election approached two books of ours took off and are still selling like crazy i am

01:01:26.360 martin luther king jr and i am george washington and like crazy and i know why it's not a democrat

01:01:35.320 or even republican thing it's that people are so tired of putting on the tv and seeing politicians

01:01:40.600 on what they want to show their kids are leaders we know there's a giant difference between a

01:01:44.120 politician and a leader every single person knows that that's listening here and we got to do better

01:01:49.240 at at being leaders and i think the sad part is right now um is that we just have to take that

01:01:54.760 lesson on ourselves we have to be our own leaders and that that's a hard one let me ask you this um

01:02:00.840 you know there's a um i i find it interesting that in american culture the marvel comics uh captain

01:02:10.600 america superman uh all of these things took off during world war ii and and it it happened i believe

01:02:19.800 because when you saw evil on such a grand scale you didn't know what to do the average person just

01:02:28.120 didn't know what to do didn't know how to process it didn't know how to help um and we needed a

01:02:33.880 superhero and i did i mean you know hollywood you're exactly right i mean hollywood will tell us that now

01:02:41.720 that this is just because they're looking for series i think the marvel resurgence at this time is more

01:02:48.760 than just the movies saying you know we can make these better it's it's really you've never been

01:02:53.960 more correct let's look at it historically i can show you my my senior paper in college was about

01:02:58.440 superheroes as propaganda in world war ii and when i looked at it if you look back uh at the history of

01:03:05.640 heroes you know who the biggest heroes were during the great depression they were tarzan and they were

01:03:10.440 flash gordon they were characters designed to transport you elsewhere they were escapist because the

01:03:16.200 depression was exactly that depressing so no one wanted to be here they want to be in the 25th

01:03:20.200 century they wanted to be in the jungle and as world war ii started encroaching on our shores 19 you

01:03:26.120 know 38 39 this character takes off like nobody's ever seen before named superman and why because

01:03:34.280 we're a country that was scared and we needed a hero to come save us and here was this bulletproof

01:03:38.440 man named superman who suddenly out of nowhere as world war ii's hitting suddenly started sells a

01:03:44.520 million copies and if you look historically right when 9 11 happened if you look at everyone said

01:03:51.080 there'll be no irony again there'll be no humor again we were a country lost and scared again if you

01:03:56.360 look at the first movie that broke through the public consciousness at the time it was spider-man it

01:04:01.640 was we weren't a country of superman anymore we weren't invulnerable but we were spider-man we

01:04:05.640 were we were we were you know nervous and we were scared like spider-man is but fighting like no one's

01:04:10.280 ever fought before we're still the best country for that no one fights like we do and here came

01:04:16.120 spider-man and for the past as you see in 15 years is the resurgence of all these heroes it's not

01:04:22.120 because people want a series it's because we are starving for heroes right now we are searching for

01:04:27.960 heroes right now that is why even the bad superhero movies make 100 million dollars because we don't see

01:04:33.000 our heroes on tv anymore we don't see him in congress we don't see him in government we don't

01:04:37.720 see him in the white house we don't see him anywhere on any side of the party for a while for so long now

01:04:42.440 and the result is we're gonna we're gonna we need heroes that's the country we're a country founded

01:04:47.480 by heroes founded on our legends and myths and we will find them where when we need them and it's

01:04:51.880 why to me like this and when i went to the dover people the reason you know me i write a book every two

01:04:56.840 years right that's what it does this took me three years to write the escape artist because i

01:05:01.640 was so blown away by the real heroes i saw at dover the real heroes i saw in the us so the real heroes

01:05:07.400 i saw in the military that i was like i need to do this justice and i found this other hero i

01:05:12.200 know i mean this is a great one i didn't know that since world war one the u.s army has had an actual

01:05:18.760 painter on staff who has been there since world war one and they race in to paint what happens whether

01:05:25.400 it's the beaches in normandy whether it's vietnam whether it's uh 9 11 they were there on 9 11 too

01:05:31.320 and i was getting a tour of this museum they had paintings of hitler by adolf hitler they had

01:05:36.360 paintings of these top military people i said why do you have all this art they said these are done by

01:05:40.360 our war artists i said you're telling me that while everyone else is racing into a disaster with guns

01:05:46.520 that you have someone on staff who's racing in with nothing but paint brushes in their pockets

01:05:51.080 i said that's the craziest job i've ever heard that's a hero i want to meet him and they said to

01:05:55.640 me you mean her you want to meet her and that's where nola the hero and the escape artist came from

01:06:01.640 and i was just blown away that there was a hidden hero in the military that has been documenting

01:06:07.640 everything we've been doing since world war one glenn and we knew nothing about her we knew nothing

01:06:13.400 about him it's been a male for so many years you know recently a woman and i just said i have to build

01:06:19.080 this character for the escape artist around it because i need to give people heroes again ones

01:06:23.880 we can actually believe in not politicians but the regular men and women who are serving us every

01:06:28.600 single day those are our heroes couldn't agree with you uh more it's hard to find um real heroes

01:06:36.040 because when you do find them uh you know you you have to recognize that they're people too so they're

01:06:43.480 they're flawed as well and everybody seemingly just wants to tear everybody apart look can i ask you

01:06:50.760 um you know the one thing that we're not talking about uh we're talking to brad uh melzer he is the

01:06:57.000 author of the book the escape artist it's a thriller it came out today his best work uh to date if

01:07:03.640 you're a fan of brad get this one um uh i downloaded it midnight last night um brad the the situation

01:07:14.280 that we're having and i don't want to get into politics um but the situation that we have with

01:07:18.920 guns right now we are blaming now uh the guns and and i made a list of this um of the things that we've

01:07:27.080 assigned blame to over the years we've blamed politicians we blamed wall street we blamed uh

01:07:34.200 the government corporations globalism the media islam christians the jews capitalism socialism

01:07:40.920 education the doctors the hospitals the insurance companies and we're down to guns um one thing that's

01:07:47.560 not on the list is us oh you couldn't agree more so let's look historically at that i've studied

01:07:54.760 um over the years i went to the secret service to study presidential assassins i wanted to know

01:08:01.080 the people that actually kill people tell me about them don't tell me about all the stuff tell me about

01:08:05.400 the people us right let's let's take a hard look at ourselves and i live not far from where parkland

01:08:10.760 is this is right in our backyard i live in florida and you know what the secret service told me is there

01:08:16.520 are two types of people that hunt presidents there are hunters and there are howlers and what a howler

01:08:23.400 does is someone who makes noise and says i'm gonna go kill the president i'm gonna go do something

01:08:26.840 make a lot of noise make a lot of threats they'd never do anything they howl they make noise they

01:08:31.320 do nothing they said what you worry about are not the howlers you worry about the hunters and the

01:08:36.040 hunters say nothing and hunters don't tip you off and hunters never tell you they're coming and hunters

01:08:41.480 we have to look out for but what i looked at when i was examining them is the people and what they

01:08:47.960 have in common who have gone after presidents successfully is they all tend to be young they

01:08:53.080 all are pretty quiet they're all actually neat oddly they don't do drugs they don't it's not

01:08:57.320 alcohol um and obviously have some level of kind of mental illness that's out there but i think you're

01:09:03.160 exactly right is we love to blame everything except that person in the mirror and it's why i started

01:09:09.400 this beautiful conversation one of my favorites we've had glenn over the years is that with that

01:09:13.480 single word that houdini left for his mother forgive and the person we have to kind of forgive

01:09:17.560 and start with is ourselves there's nothing wrong with looking at yourself and saying let's start

01:09:23.000 here the only way you know gandhi teaches us the only way you change the world is you start with

01:09:28.120 yourself he says i'm not perfect he loses his temper too is gandhi lost his temper and he says the only

01:09:34.120 way you change the world is you start with yourself if we all just you know that we we can't change

01:09:38.200 the world by yelling at people on facebook this book is changing anybody this book has changed you

01:09:42.440 hasn't it it you know um you know me a long time you know me from the start of my career this is my

01:09:47.960 20 year anniversary and when i started this book i can't help but get nostalgic um because i'm someone

01:09:54.360 who loves history how could i not and i looked back at my own career and i said to myself what's my high

01:10:00.280 point where are the books that i did my best work and i looked back and i realized it was the books that

01:10:05.480 had the best characters characters i cared about that i rooted for them yeah and i realized i started

01:10:10.120 writing so much about politicians that i wasn't rooting for them and i just said you know what

01:10:14.600 it's going to take me an extra year but i found these people through the uso at dover i found these

01:10:19.560 heroes in the military who are artists in residence and are war artists i found even harry houdini and i

01:10:25.800 built the escape artist because i was like i need to do that because i think that all of us and you

01:10:30.360 have this too we all have a legacy in our lives and your legacy is you know you have your family you have

01:10:35.720 your friends but the leg you know it's not your job title that's your legacy no one when you die

01:10:41.400 it's the last time your resume is ever going to be mentioned your job title fades with you

01:10:45.480 but you the things you do for other people that's what lasts and that's what endures and it's your

01:10:50.440 family and it's your friends that you help you have a very special one glenn you have the two other

01:10:55.400 categories which is your community and right there are people out there in your community that are

01:11:00.680 just changed by the conversation you have the hope you give them but the last one's the most

01:11:04.600 important i think for all of us and it's the impact we all have on complete and utter strangers

01:11:10.440 and for some of us it happens you know you give money to a breast cancer walk or you're doing you

01:11:15.240 know you go to your church or your synagogue you bring canned goods for the food drive

01:11:19.320 but there are people out there you're never going to meet them glenn they're never going to meet you

01:11:24.440 but things you've donated to causes you've donated to i know for so many years you'll never meet each

01:11:29.000 other but you're forever part of each other's legacy and as i looked at dover and as i looked at

01:11:33.720 these heroes i i saw it i was like you know here we are we all support the military we all love it

01:11:38.760 but these people that are doing the real work are strangers to us they change our lives and i just

01:11:43.240 this book changed me and really made me take a hard look and realize that the legacy isn't just you

01:11:48.200 know family and friends and what's you know right in front of us but the world is far bigger and i hope

01:11:53.560 uh that 20 years and i'm still trying to learn something still trying to learn i have the opportunity to

01:11:59.560 talk to an awful lot of people um and uh brad you are my favorite guest to have on the air i just

01:12:08.040 love having you on the air you're a good decent man uh you're you're everywhere doing everything

01:12:14.680 all the time you put me to shame on on hard working uh and you are unbelievably gifted at writing brad

01:12:22.360 melzer the name of the book is the escape artist it's a thriller it is available everywhere now thanks brad

01:12:29.560 what a day this is i mean coming up next dave rubin an hour with dave rubin if you don't know who dave

01:12:43.080 is you need to know who dave is um he's fascinating himself uh he's a guy who used to work for the young

01:12:53.240 turks he was a he was a liberal democrat progressive and uh not anymore wait till you meet dave rubin

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01:14:27.240 i mean he's just it's i've never seen anybody i mean he just keeps going

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01:14:51.160 love courage truth glenn back so people ask me all the time uh how do we fix it glenn how do we

01:15:07.880 fix it the answer is becoming more and more clear every day more and more obvious um fix reason

01:15:16.920 firmly in her seat and question with boldness even the very existence of god for if there be a god

01:15:23.560 he must surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear that's what thomas jefferson wrote

01:15:30.680 to his nephew peter carr and it is what we're lacking now you can't ask an honest question when is the last time

01:15:40.600 you heard an honest question you know um nunberg on television last night those weren't honest questions

01:15:48.360 to him that was a show they had an agenda he had an agenda and that served the same purpose so they

01:15:57.400 got together but there were no honest questions there honest questions make us uncomfortable because

01:16:04.680 an honest question is asked and you have the ability to say huh i never thought of it that way

01:16:15.320 i don't know that may change my opinion and no one is willing to change opinions no one is willing

01:16:21.720 to lose no one is willing to look weak we have to destroy the other side no we don't we have to find

01:16:29.480 the truth but how many of us are really on the mission of truth because we all feel we're under

01:16:37.560 attack and when you're under attack it's human nature to board everything up pull up the drop bridge and

01:16:46.440 hunker down and that's where we are that will lead to disaster there is a a a renaissance going on now a

01:16:56.120 renaissance of the enlightenment and it's not happening in the capital it's not happening in

01:17:01.800 the media centers it's happening online and it's happening with very brave people and i want to

01:17:07.720 introduce you to one of them a guy who used to be a progressive a guy who used to be uh a um a liberal

01:17:17.960 i think a classic liberal but that's not understood in america and realized wait a minute i i

01:17:24.520 think progressive doesn't mean what i think it means i think as he said in his prager university

01:17:30.120 video it's become regressive because they're silencing speech i was on his show about a year

01:17:37.800 ago and was really fascinated by him i i was a little worried uh when i first went in because i thought okay

01:17:45.880 this guy was on the young turks and i'm sure he may have felt the same way about me i hope he doesn't

01:17:51.160 feel that way today as he joins us uh for the first time on the program for an uh an hour long

01:17:57.080 interview it's dave rubin hello dave how are you glad it's good to be with you and and thank you for

01:18:02.920 possibly the the kindest intro that i've ever received i'm sending that one right to my mom

01:18:09.640 so so dave um i am i am more and more impressed with you uh every day there is there is something

01:18:16.680 that is happening uh and it's it's really kind of underground at this point um it is let's have

01:18:24.760 discussions with people we don't agree with and see if we can find some common ground that's pretty

01:18:31.880 risky you know it's funny i mean i guess in crazy times like we live in right now that's risky

01:18:39.320 that being said it seemed very obvious to me from the beginning when i started doing this show

01:18:44.840 something was so wrong and everyone kind of has known it for a while i think right now and it's

01:18:51.560 partly what you alluded to in the intro there now it's becoming painfully obvious that something is

01:18:57.800 wrong in the system that everything seems to be breaking down at once meaning our political system

01:19:03.720 our media system even the sports world that this sort of leftist post-modern cultural marxist whatever

01:19:09.800 you want to call it that this set of collectivist ideas has now infiltrated everything including

01:19:15.240 even the youtube algorithm to the point where everyone is constantly at each other's throats and

01:19:23.560 if you watch cnn and you're you're completely right about what happened last night and actually

01:19:28.040 i'll tell you this so number goes on there i i was in the middle of i'm doing three shows today so i was

01:19:32.600 doing prep for for three shows and i and i never watch cnn anymore because it is not news it is noise i mean

01:19:39.160 that is simply the truth and once you really start understanding that and really start understanding

01:19:44.760 that you have to figure out how to get your news elsewhere or at least from many different sources

01:19:49.640 so that you can cobble together what's true because most of these organizations these people are not

01:19:54.680 journalists they're activists when you really understand that it it gives you a real sense of

01:19:59.160 clarity but i noticed as i was prepping for my shows and i had twitter open and i saw all these people

01:20:04.920 piling on what was happening with nunberg last night and i and immediately i thought i'm not going

01:20:10.840 to turn it on that nothing good well it won't be good for me whatever is happening is not good for the

01:20:17.000 country yes i'll read something tomorrow and and you know if it if it really burns and becomes something

01:20:22.840 hugely important culturally and politically yes of course i'll pay attention to it but this endless

01:20:28.280 need for you know to find somebody to destroy somebody to move on to the next one i mean we're

01:20:36.040 we're becoming like parasites in a way you know people open up twitter you know twitter is the

01:20:41.560 the the one of these of all the social media networks that that gets everybody the craziest

01:20:46.040 and there's a couple reasons for that it's the easiest to amplify messages you know most of the media

01:20:50.280 people are on there etc etc but it's almost like we're becoming parasites we we find someone in

01:20:55.400 them you wake up in the morning you look on twitter you find someone who you've never heard of who

01:21:00.680 said something that you slightly disagree with and next thing you know you're trying to get them fired

01:21:05.240 from their job even though they live 3 000 miles away so almost everything is wrong right now and

01:21:10.680 because of that i think a few of us have seen it i think a few of us saw it coming for quite some time

01:21:16.440 and that was the sort of reason why i decided to do this show which ironically you know now it's like

01:21:24.200 i walk down the street and all these people come up to me and they say how groundbreaking it is and

01:21:28.120 it's so incredible and all this stuff that's like wow all i'm doing truly is sitting across from

01:21:33.960 someone whether i agree with them or disagree with them and and listening to them and and talking it

01:21:40.280 out with them and often disagreeing on things but doing it respectfully and that shouldn't be rocket

01:21:45.400 science and yet here we are so it's quite bizarre tell me a little bit for for people who don't listen

01:21:52.520 to the or watch the rubin report um online which you should great podcast um uh and i want to get

01:21:58.440 into some of the podcasts that you have done recently um but sure um if for somebody who doesn't know you

01:22:04.680 dave um explain your your your awakening or how would you describe what's happened to you yeah well i was a

01:22:13.480 liberal my whole life i i come from uh new york uh my family uh wasn't involved in politics per se but was

01:22:21.480 always arguing about politics my extended family i mean big you know dinners meals holidays everyone

01:22:27.640 arguing about everything and and at the end of the meal then we'd all kind of get over it and move on

01:22:34.200 and i remember even being you know 11 and 12 and and i'm wanting to sit at the adults table because

01:22:38.600 that's what they were doing and i just thought that was great you know sometimes i'd be arguing but

01:22:42.680 sometimes you know just sitting there as a kid like what what's going on here um but i grew up as a

01:22:47.960 liberal as a democrat my parents were both democrats um most of my aunts and uncles democrats i think my

01:22:53.400 grandparents were democrats um but i remember specifically i i was born in 1976 so i'm 41 years

01:23:01.560 old uh i was born in the bicentennial and in 1988 or 87 during the george hw bush michael dukakis election

01:23:10.600 i remember there was a moment we were doing a mock election in the class and i was i think i was

01:23:15.400 dukakis's campaign manager or something like that i was working on you know working on the campaign

01:23:20.200 and i remember in the real in the real election i remember there was a moment where um george hw bush

01:23:26.440 had called dukakis a liberal and then for a week everybody was talking about how dukakis was running

01:23:32.600 away from the word liberal as if it was bad and i couldn't understand that that made no sense to me i

01:23:37.160 thought liberals were the good guys liberals care about poor people liberals care about minorities

01:23:42.200 liberals uh you know generally seem to be nicer and more caring and all of this stuff and so that

01:23:49.560 i ran with that and i was a political i went to binghamton university which is the state school in

01:23:53.320 new york i was a political science major um and i was i always considered myself less than liberal

01:23:59.960 and then in these last 10 years or so you know the progressives sort of took over the liberal movement

01:24:07.560 so meaning you know there used to be there used to be classical liberals as you alluded to earlier so

01:24:12.040 just just three very quickly i always i always mention these three because one was a mayor one

01:24:16.200 was the center of all this president you have jfk who was a president he was a classical liberal and

01:24:21.080 we can get into all the reasons that uh i like to reference uh daniel patrick moynihan because i'm

01:24:25.560 from new york and i remember how much i i loved him he was a senator in new york and i would say ed

01:24:30.200 kotch as a mayor was a was a democrat uh you know he was a he was on the left but he was basically a

01:24:36.440 sane uh democrat so there you have the president and and the senator and a mayor and basically what

01:24:43.560 in in a sense the difference right now between sort of classical liberals and and progressives

01:24:48.200 is progressives find and i know you know this but progressives find that the state

01:24:52.360 is the answer to everything more government is to answer is the answer to everything which is ironic

01:24:56.680 because they'll also tell you that the state is the most evil thing possible so while they're so

01:25:01.720 they'll tell you right you know even right now even right now with the gun debate you know they'll

01:25:05.960 on one hand they're telling you trump is evil and a dictator right and wants to be a dictator and all

01:25:12.200 of those things right and then and then their their answer is to take your gun there's an incredible

01:25:17.000 right so there's an incredible flaw in the logic there but but to answer your original question

01:25:21.480 what really woke me up so then i did stand-up comedy for many years in new york

01:25:26.120 i had a show on serious xm for a while but what sort of got me really into the political world

01:25:30.280 was i joined the young turks and at the time i even though i felt that they were a little more left

01:25:36.200 than me generally i felt it was basically a good fit um and then i was there for about a year and

01:25:42.280 there were there were you know little disagreements here and there but you know that i'm not above

01:25:46.520 disagreement and i certainly don't let that affect relationships um the wake of the final

01:25:52.200 the sort of real awakening there were a couple things but the real awakening uh was the night

01:25:57.160 that sam harris who's a neuroscientist that who i know you're aware of uh he was on a real time with

01:26:03.000 bill maher to discuss uh religion and ironically he was actually promoting a book called waking up which

01:26:08.840 was uh the subtitle is a guide to spirituality without religion so it was really about finding inner peace

01:26:14.360 uh he gets on there they end up talking about islam sort of the reverse of inner peace and and ben

01:26:21.000 affleck basically calls bill maher and sam harris gross and racist hang on just a second i have that

01:26:27.400 i have that audio i want to play that in case but here's here's that audio every criticism of the

01:26:33.320 doctrine of islam gets inflated with bigotry toward muslims as people right that is it's intellectually

01:26:40.200 ridiculous even if it gets so hold on are you the person who understands the officially codified

01:26:45.320 islam you're the interpreter of that so you can say well this is i think any i'm actually well

01:26:49.720 educated on this topic i'm asking you so you're saying if i criticize that you're saying that

01:26:53.480 islamophobia is not a real thing that if you're critical of something it's not a real thing when

01:26:57.960 we do it right well it really is i'm not denying that that certain people are bigoted against muslims as

01:27:03.720 people that's and that's a problem big of you but the but why are you so hostile about this it's

01:27:09.400 gross it's racist it's not it's but it's so nice so it's like saying so not you're shifty jew you're

01:27:15.160 not listening to what we are saying you guys are saying if you want to be liberals believe in liberal

01:27:19.720 principles right freedom of speech like um you know we are endowed by our uh forefathers with an

01:27:24.280 inalienable abstract all men are created no ben we have to be able to criticize bad ideas and of course

01:27:28.360 we do no liberal doesn't okay okay but islam at this moment is the mother load of bad ideas

01:27:33.240 jeez so we have we have that's just a fact that that's ben affleck is remarkable on

01:27:41.560 multiple levels on this so you so much there yeah there is so i'm glad i'm glad you played that

01:27:48.440 actually so i do want to clarify one thing because i had sam on my show about a year later when i

01:27:53.240 eventually relaunched the show as an interview show and sam did backtrack one thing there where

01:27:59.480 he said the mother load he's actually added that he said i should have said a mother load

01:28:05.000 uh so that he he does believe that the set of ideas which are islam are a bad set of ideas he

01:28:10.600 didn't mean to imply that they are the worst set of ideas period yes there are plenty of others so i

01:28:15.240 think that it's an important distinction because you know but anytime any of us we misplace one word

01:28:20.520 or i know we pause in the wrong spot i know they come after us so i'm happy to do sam the favor on that

01:28:26.360 but what i think is so interesting about that moment was that what sam was talking about is the

01:28:31.480 difference between ideas and people so if there was a political party that wanted women uh to wear

01:28:39.080 you know to cover their head or cover their whole body or put them in beekeeper costumes as bill mark

01:28:44.120 says if there was a political party that wanted that if there was a political party that wanted

01:28:47.960 the state to have all of the power that said that stoning women was okay and throwing gays off

01:28:53.560 roofs was okay and all those things the less the progressives would be apoplectic and rightfully so

01:28:59.080 they would be completely against that but because in this sense it's couched in a religion which is

01:29:05.320 thought of a brown person's religion which that in a in itself is actually racist because anyone can

01:29:10.680 be part of any religion and of course there's white muslims and asian muslims and all sorts of other

01:29:15.240 things um just like there are black jews and black christians and everything else um but you have to be

01:29:22.040 able to criticize any set of ideas and especially because islam is a particularly unique case because

01:29:27.880 it's also it's also political in a way that christianity and and judaism aren't but but without

01:29:34.120 getting too deep into that basically i saw that moment and then it was really i was watching it live i

01:29:39.800 didn't know who sam was actually at the time and the next day i suddenly saw everyone online claiming

01:29:46.680 that sam harris and bill maher were racist now bill although i have a little bit more of a

01:29:53.080 disagreement with him these days because i'm definitely more libertarian than i used to be

01:29:57.400 bill bill whether you like him or not no one in their right mind thinks that bill maher is a racist

01:30:02.520 i mean bill maher has fought for every lefty cause of all time he's constantly puts tons of minorities on

01:30:07.880 his show i know he dates minority women i mean all of this stuff but no one thinks that the man's a racist but

01:30:12.840 everybody just because a hollywood celebrity said something in a in a hysterical manner and affleck

01:30:19.000 was ready to fight you can oh yeah hear it in his own um but because of all of that suddenly the

01:30:24.760 onus was on this this neuroscientist who came on a show to talk inner peace and bill maher the

01:30:29.880 standard bearer of the left at least in terms of media in america for the last 20 some odd years

01:30:34.920 were on the defensive to prove they weren't racist and my boss at the time jank huger from the young

01:30:40.440 church was one of the was one of the serial uh slanderers of both of them they brought sam in

01:30:46.920 for a three-hour interview with 30 seconds oh you're gonna play you can no no 30 i have 30 seconds

01:30:52.520 before i have to break okay 30 seconds all right okay uh which was an absolute disaster and then

01:30:57.080 subsequently once i saw the way the left reacted to truth to truth as you started this whole thing by

01:31:03.400 saying that was when it all started crumbling and once it starts crumbling it's a house of cards you

01:31:09.000 you will try for a while to maintain it but it cannot maintain under its own weight dave rubin from

01:31:15.480 the rubin report we continue in just a second a fascinating guy and on the cutting edge of change

01:31:23.000 and lighting the sparks of the enlightenment once again in america our conversation continues in a

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01:32:42.280 glenn beck i'm talking to dave rubin from the rubin report uh dave about four years ago i went and i i

01:32:49.080 called for a meeting with the leaders of glad in new york people who you know not going to make my

01:32:54.360 audience happy and and i'm not going to i'm not going to make their people happy and i said look

01:32:59.000 can we just can we stop fighting about cakes for a minute and and let's talk about the killing of jews

01:33:05.880 in in the middle east they wanted nothing to do with it uh and i said let's just find a way to come

01:33:13.480 together on both sides and stop this it's a it's a common threat uh and uh they wouldn't hear it now

01:33:21.320 the left will not distance themselves from louis farrakhan are they eating themselves is this is

01:33:27.240 this going to destroy the left in the end oh it absolutely will and that's why in an interesting way

01:33:33.720 most of us that are you know basically for freedom basically for liberty basically for being governed as

01:33:40.040 the constitution lays out we don't have to move that much right now and i'll argue we shouldn't be

01:33:46.120 moving stay true to our principles right now as as both sides go bananas i think more and more people

01:33:55.560 are going to flop to us and i think that you know my success in the last couple years is really proof

01:34:00.760 of that i can tell you you know on the glad front my uh my show on siriusxm was on the lgbt channel and

01:34:08.280 basically i wanted to be on the political channel but they were like you're gay you go to the go to

01:34:12.840 the gate go to the gay channel and talk about pop culture and it really wasn't what i wanted to do

01:34:17.480 i don't begrudge them any decision you know and it all worked out uh but because of that i i would

01:34:22.200 often go to these glad events and i'd go to a lot of this kind of stuff was mostly it wasn't even they

01:34:27.480 weren't even promoting uh gay people they were promoting they were promoting all lefties but really

01:34:32.360 what they were promoting were like real housewives and just sort of worse sort of bravo celebrity

01:34:36.760 nonsense um but yes what what they have become what many of these organizations have become i think

01:34:43.800 even the adl unfortunately they've become leftist organizations they're not they're not really

01:34:49.000 fighting for you for gay people or the adl isn't really fighting for jewish people they're fighting

01:34:54.760 for progressive causes more that more in a second with dave rubin from the rubin report

01:35:00.760 this is the glenn beck the guy who makes me really feel optimistic about the future

01:35:26.680 is uh dave rubin from the rubin report um listen to his podcast watch his podcast he has really

01:35:33.720 interesting conversations with people who you may disagree with and the point is we we should hear

01:35:41.560 these conversations we need to be feel a little uncomfortable we need to stretch um we can't just

01:35:47.800 live in this bottle where we only hear our our own ideas um dave the things are changing and they're

01:35:54.920 changing rapidly on both sides where uh people really only want to hear their own sides um youtube is

01:36:01.960 now talking about banning uh people and you know i think the young turks and code pink and color of

01:36:08.600 change and alex jones should be able to be on youtube doesn't mean that i endorse them but they should be

01:36:14.680 able to be there there needs to be a platform to be heard but we live in a society now where um ideas

01:36:21.640 are frightening and and ideas don't frighten me and nor do people with other ideas frighten me what

01:36:27.640 frightens me are those people who believe only their ideas have value and should be heard

01:36:33.800 yeah i mean that's it right there i mean even uh you may have seen this last night christina hoff

01:36:38.680 summers who's a feminist the true feminist in the in the right way that one should be a feminist for

01:36:44.600 equality opportunity not equality of outcome uh she spoke at portland state university last night

01:36:51.240 and antifa was screaming to shut her down the head of the diversity something or other you

01:36:57.240 know all these schools have these diversity uh groups which usually are actually have no diversity

01:37:02.280 of thought yeah they care about the coat they care about the color of your skin which is actually the

01:37:06.360 reverse of what martin luther king wanted um you know they're shouting her down they were playing music

01:37:12.040 loudly during her speech they were asking her to get you know demanding actually that she get off stage

01:37:16.600 uh this this is a woman who's not controversial by you know she's controversial she's controversial

01:37:22.440 because she's making some sense um so it is incumbent you know i said at the beginning my first direct

01:37:28.200 message i do a little uh five or eight minute spiel at the beginning of each show my first one of 2018

01:37:33.400 was my prediction was that this is going to be the year of unusual alliances and i think we're seeing a lot

01:37:38.600 of that already so for for example in this crew of people that you've referenced here uh what eric

01:37:44.600 weinstein calls the intellectual dark web where there's there's he and his brother uh brett who

01:37:49.720 was a biology professor a lefty his whole life at evergreen state university one of the most left

01:37:55.240 universities in the entire country oh it makes it makes the rest of seattle if we're talking

01:38:01.480 evergreen up in seattle right makes the left of left of seattle look like salt lake city or provo utah

01:38:07.640 i mean exactly you're not you're not being sarcastic i mean if they say it is possibly

01:38:14.200 the most progressive university on in the country so you'd think by default if they're if they're

01:38:19.160 instead of progressive lefty ideas if this is the right set of ideas you'd think that schools

01:38:25.400 where these ideas are implemented would be the most tolerant lovely diverse welcoming places but

01:38:30.840 they are the complete reverse because of the obsession with immutable characteristics instead

01:38:37.560 of what your ideas are so this crew of people whether it's the the weinstein brothers or sam

01:38:42.600 harris or ben shapiro or i include you in this and and many others and it's by the way it's not for

01:38:48.360 me to define who's in this but there's just an interesting uh truly diverse group of people that are in

01:38:53.560 this all we're doing is basically standing here and saying we will have the discussion so the reason i

01:39:00.280 call this the year of interesting alliances unusual alliances is because if you took two guys like

01:39:05.480 sam harris and ben shapiro right now i know i know you know ben well yeah so ben is a ben is a

01:39:10.440 conservative and you know he can pretty much tick down the line of what conservative values are

01:39:14.760 sam is a lefty and can pretty much tick down the line of of what lefty or you know liberal in in

01:39:20.920 that in the progressive sense values are the only thing that sam gets in trouble with with the left

01:39:25.320 really is is talking about islam which for some reason in their oppression olympics they put at the

01:39:29.480 apex of it which i have some theories on that if you want to go into it but basically my point is

01:39:34.120 that sam from the left and ben from the right are in their allies now yes because they're defending

01:39:40.360 each other's right yes to freely express their ideas so they're on stage together i was at an

01:39:46.040 event in san francisco where the two of them are on stage with eric weinstein actually and the ben got

01:39:52.200 basically a a huge tremendous ovation from sam's crowd who should disagree with him on virtually

01:39:59.640 everything i'm talking from the existence of god and the value of religion all the way through to

01:40:04.280 abortion and taxes and every other political issue we can think of but people are realizing those are

01:40:09.480 not the issues there's one issue that matters right now and the issue that matters is will you truly

01:40:15.480 stand for freedom does this country does do do the values of this country what we were founded on

01:40:21.400 the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and the other stuff that's in the bill

01:40:24.440 of rights that's pretty damn great uh do these things actually matter anymore or do they not and

01:40:29.880 if you believe that they do and you will defend people who who won't defend you so for example

01:40:36.200 linda sarsour who i think is a a true vile i think she's an anti-semite and i think she's

01:40:40.680 anti-american and all this stuff when when cuny the city university of new york invited her as the

01:40:45.880 commencement speaker i would have preferred that they not invite her because i don't think her set

01:40:50.680 of ideas is worth listening to and worth platforming however they did invite her and then i publicly

01:40:56.040 defended i said look you can't be platformed if they've been invited uh trust me it was not a

01:41:01.000 pleasure for me to do that i mean i think this woman's a true threat to our democracy because her

01:41:05.880 ideas are now embedded in the women's march which now farrakhan's ideas are embedded and

01:41:10.600 that's not far from being embedded into the the democratic platform altogether so if you will

01:41:16.520 stand for the basic set of ideas that i know that you care about that the founders and thomas jefferson

01:41:21.400 who you referenced right at the beginning of this uh that he wrote about and and cared about if you

01:41:25.880 will stand for those ideas you will find allies everywhere um but if you don't stand for if you

01:41:31.320 don't stand for those ideas you're only going to find enemies because then your ideology is based in

01:41:36.120 finding enemies so that that's the challenge for all of us right now dave um you are probably one of

01:41:41.240 the few people um that are as passionate about ai and future tech uh as i am and when i hear people

01:41:49.640 talk about ai um my skin crawls because they they either don't see what is coming um what is possible on the

01:42:00.440 good and possible on the bad uh they think ai is about you know a fight against robots it's it's really

01:42:08.600 a fight uh against goals to make sure that the goals of ai line up with human goals and freedom goals um

01:42:19.400 there was a a ad that was just put out by the adl about how they're now using ai and uh and uh machine

01:42:27.800 learning to root out hate speech on the on the internet and they said and it finds 86 of the

01:42:35.000 time it's hate speech well wait what um what are we heading for yeah well first off as you know you

01:42:44.840 know the supreme court has said there is no such thing as hate speech you can't you know there if

01:42:48.600 you libel or slander somebody there's legal action that they can take if you have a direct call for

01:42:54.120 violence or you you know scream fire in a crowded theater okay that this is not but that but hate

01:42:59.000 speech in that you you are allowed to say bad things about people you are allowed to be racist

01:43:03.640 it it kind of sucky i wish the world was a nicer place uh but if we're going to live in a in an open

01:43:09.560 society you are allowed to say bad things so the phrase hate speech is already a loaded uh loaded

01:43:15.080 term it's sort of like the phrase islamophobia the phobia is an irrational fear everywhere that the

01:43:21.000 set of ideas of islam spread is bad for everyone by the way including muslim people if you're a woman

01:43:26.520 living under islam bad if you're a gay person or a christian or a jew or any other religious minority

01:43:31.880 bad so that is not an irrational fear but this is just another way that they they twist and contort

01:43:36.760 language as far as ai this is a massive problem i'm a big sci-fi guy uh so most of the movies that i

01:43:44.120 love are sort of dystopian future movies like the matrix and total recall and minority report

01:43:50.760 and all this stuff so so yes we're not yes are we entering the phase of terminator where we're going

01:43:55.720 to be at war physically with robots i don't think we're quite there yet uh but your point is the correct

01:44:01.320 one which is that we're basically entering an information war and if if the ai and this is why james

01:44:07.400 damore uh who is the google engineer that that got fired over uh writing his anti-diversity memo uh

01:44:14.520 this is why he is such a key piece to this entire thing because google basically if ai was done the

01:44:21.080 way it's supposed to be done it's just really machine learning and artificial intelligence is

01:44:26.120 supposed to compile information and and by compiling information you get you will get truth you it will

01:44:33.480 sift through things that are not true it will find things that are true that in and of itself is

01:44:38.600 basically a good thing uh the problem is that the diversity memo these ideas of this fake diversity

01:44:45.720 and leftism have seeped into the ai so which is why when you which is why when you search certain terms

01:44:52.760 now they're not showing you the correct things i think the one that everyone's talking about uh i hope i

01:44:58.120 get this right is if you search uh american inventors the first page in google will show

01:45:03.640 you mostly black inventors now there's no of course there are many brilliant brilliant black inventors

01:45:09.800 who deserve all the credit and accolades that come with their discoveries but but something like uh

01:45:15.640 thomas edison is even on the first page i'm slightly butchering this a little bit but your audience

01:45:20.120 just check it out for themselves but that's what the problem is they're going to alter what the reality is

01:45:25.160 and this is a huge problem have you have you read uh max tegmark's uh book life 3.0

01:45:31.400 no i haven't all right so in it he talks about how you know they're in israel they did a study that

01:45:37.320 shows that if you get a judge first thing in the morning you generally get a light sentence but the

01:45:42.680 closer you get to lunch the more hungry they get the more testy they get so uh they the idea was why

01:45:49.640 don't we just why don't we just put ai in charge of the court system uh and so they started doing

01:45:56.360 tests on uh paroles here in america and they they i think it was ibm they got with ibm and they said

01:46:03.240 let's put all of the stats in and they they said let's then the ai will make a recommendation well

01:46:10.200 they started making recommendations and they found that due to just the pure stats white people were let

01:46:17.480 out more often than black people and so then they the scientists then said is ai racist and they

01:46:28.520 went back to change the algorithm now that's not wait that that's not putting in pure information

01:46:37.160 and it bothers me when we're starting to talk about opinions and hate speech and who should be heard and

01:46:43.000 who should not it's depends on who puts all the information in and that is exactly why that this

01:46:49.880 snake will eat itself because the next move that this this thing this monster is is making is now to

01:46:57.240 attack science and and attack scientists so a biologist like weinstein quite a brilliant biologist

01:47:05.320 actually is now under attack from these people anyone who believes in a quality of opportunity not a

01:47:12.120 quality of outcome we if we start fiddling so that your quality of outcome is based on your race

01:47:18.360 and your sexuality and your gender and all those things we will live in a horrible philip k dick

01:47:23.560 dystopian society that will not be good for anybody that will actually be the racist society and we see

01:47:29.640 that we see evidence of that now which is why there's also this lawsuit right now against google

01:47:34.920 by the uh the recruiter who said that they didn't want him to hire white and asian men for

01:47:40.280 uh engineering jobs because they were overrepresented so if you if you take that

01:47:45.080 logic to its end conclusion you're saying actually we should be racist against white and asian people

01:47:51.880 now put white people aside just for a second just for the for the ease of the argument put white

01:47:56.520 people aside okay let's say you think white people have been in power and blah blah blah the idea

01:48:01.320 asian people are a minority in this country asian people from whatever country they came from china

01:48:06.200 to japan taiwan whatever came here no one gave them anything through generations because of hard

01:48:12.040 work and caring about education and family etc they've worked very hard and have consistently

01:48:17.720 moved up the socioeconomic ladder and i think by most ways that we judge success actually are probably

01:48:23.000 the most successful minority in this country does that mean we should now be discriminating against

01:48:27.720 them should they not get jobs that they deserve in the name of diversity i mean if you believe

01:48:33.000 that that is completely antithetical to every other uh every other set of ideas that this country was

01:48:39.880 focused upon so these are the things that we're fighting and and you're completely right that ai

01:48:44.680 is now a huge piece of this and you know people have the idea that it's going to be terminator and

01:48:50.120 schwarzenegger is going to be out there uh you know you have to take him down but that that's not

01:48:53.960 the one you have to worry about yet what you have to worry about right now is the information one

01:48:57.800 and especially when you then factor in well how do we get our news we get it through a facebook algorithm

01:49:01.960 how do we get how do we get our videos yeah whatever youtube decides to deliver and no one

01:49:06.440 knows what's in the algorithm so that's what we're up against right now dave rubin uh the host of the

01:49:11.480 rubin report uh grab his uh podcast and listen to it listen to the interviews that he does they are uh

01:49:17.720 truly fascinating and very varied uh and i think you are part of the solution dave and i i'm i'm thrilled

01:49:24.360 at your at your success and for your success thank you so much dave thank you my friend and and let's

01:49:30.360 just keep this conversation going and as i told you you're welcome in my place anytime thank you

01:49:35.080 very much god bless

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01:51:20.200 glenn beck one thing we didn't get to we have to get to tomorrow is what's happening in south africa

01:51:24.920 uh there is a race war that is beginning the uh new president of south africa just said the time

01:51:31.640 for reconciliation is over and they are seizing the land and property of of whites and it

01:51:37.000 is not going to be good we'll talk about that on the news and why it matters uh tonight as well as

01:51:41.560 before that uh going into the the problems with our society who's to blame for them and how do we solve

01:51:47.160 them uh it's a it's a there are questions that i don't think we ask where we really boil down all

01:51:53.240 that often we take issue by issue we complain about them and all that when you look at the big picture

01:51:57.720 it really sort of crystallizes so we take the big picture over the next two days break it down on a

01:52:02.200 chalkboard uh what are the real problems what are the real problems and who's to blame uh by tomorrow

01:52:09.720 you'll you will have a completely different understanding only on the blaze.com tv at five

01:52:15.400 o'clock glenn beck mercury

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