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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the program. Glad you're here. We're going to talk a little bit about Joe Biden. We're

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00:01:09.920 Last night on TV, we outlined on the chalkboard the connections. The connections between what

00:01:19.160 we told you would happen in the past 10 years ago and what is happening now. We laid it all out. And

00:01:26.360 if the president wants to fix the border, you have to go to the root of the problem.

00:01:32.500 And we're going to begin there in one minute.

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00:03:36.420 So last night on TV, and we're going to try to make this episode available on YouTube sometime

00:03:43.480 during the show today, because I want everybody to see it, because you have to understand what's

00:03:50.520 happening. And I would so appreciate if you would alert the people in Congress that you trust,

00:03:59.600 have them send them this episode so they can watch it, and alert them to what's really going on.

00:04:08.220 Last night, I was talking about the president. He is getting to a point now where he's willing

00:04:13.460 to do whatever it takes to secure the border, but we're looking at the wrong place. We're looking

00:04:20.080 at the border as the problem. That is not the problem. And let me explain. There were two chalkboards

00:04:28.800 that I have done when I was at Fox, and they were both very, very important, and they still stand the

00:04:35.380 test of time, because one of them has just finished being true. Everything that I put on there

00:04:43.000 was a prediction, and it's all now complete, and it's a really important chalkboard. So let me go

00:04:51.540 through two of them. Here's what I said 10 years ago, that George Soros was building a shadow government.

00:05:00.140 Now, George Soros, we have done episode after episode after episode, and there's a really good

00:05:07.600 episode by this guy named Mr. Reagan that you should watch. He has gone and he has updated some

00:05:13.800 of the George Soros stuff, and it's very, very complete and really, really well done. Just Google

00:05:20.660 Mr. Reagan or YouTube and follow him. He's really good at laying things out. What I said at the time

00:05:30.140 was George Soros has this pattern, and this is the way he overthrows countries. One, he forms a shadow

00:05:39.540 government, and a shadow government is for the top-down, bottom-up, inside-out theory that you need

00:05:46.460 enough people at the top in government that are working coordinating with the grassroots level.

00:05:56.040 When you have those two, you can apply pressure on everybody in the middle, and that's you,

00:06:01.620 the forgotten man. So form a shadow government, then control the airwaves. Then the third step he always

00:06:09.720 takes is to stabilize the state with a crisis. Now, that crisis can be an economic crisis. It can be

00:06:16.580 an already happening crisis that you just exploit. Fourth step, provoke an election crisis. Fifth step,

00:06:25.740 begin protests and accuse fraud. Those are the five steps that George Soros always follows when he's

00:06:34.000 trying to overthrow a country. And I contend he's trying to overthrow the United States of America.

00:06:40.180 He is an open borders guy. This is important for you to understand, because when you talk about open

00:06:46.760 borders, what does that mean? People will say, open borders, well, we can all just, you know, go on

00:06:53.360 and be free. Libertarians mean it one way, open borders, that we should be able to work and do whatever

00:07:00.280 we want without the government interference. Okay, that's one way to look at it. But that is not the

00:07:06.200 way George Soros looks at it. George Soros is not a libertarian. George Soros loves big government.

00:07:14.840 So when you hear people talk about open borders, and they like big government, it can be, and in most

00:07:22.980 cases, a sign that they are Marxist-Leninists. Because remember, the difference between the Nazis and the

00:07:32.400 commies was not socialism. It was nationalism. Russia and the communists, the Marxist-Leninists, wanted to have

00:07:48.360 socialism on an international scale. So workers of the world unite. There are no borders. It's one

00:07:58.920 world and one world government. The national socialists said, I don't want to fight for another

00:08:06.680 country. If I fight for my country, my country will be strong because my workers will fight for the other

00:08:14.300 workers in my country. But they're not going to fight for somebody in a far-off distant land. So it's not

00:08:19.840 international workers. It's national workers. So when you hear about no borders, it can be a sign that

00:08:27.960 this is a Marxist-Leninist movement. All right, let's go over whether George Soros has done what he

00:08:39.580 said he would do. Form a shadow government. I contend that is the new Democratic Party.

00:08:48.040 I contend that it is all of the radicals that are in there right now. In fact, Stu, why was Jesse

00:08:55.040 Smollett let off, or who let him off? Who let him off? I mean, Fox you're talking about? Yeah. Okay, yeah.

00:09:03.140 What's her name? Nikki Fox? Her last name is Fox. I don't remember her first name.

00:09:07.040 Do you know how she was elected? I mean, she was brought into as like a kind of a radical

00:09:14.720 opposition to the status quo. You know who funded her? Was it George Soros? Yeah. I mean,

00:09:20.100 because he has projects, and he did this with secretaries of state. Yep. Save our SOS. He did it

00:09:24.840 with district attorneys. Yes. Yeah, yeah. He concentrated on local government. First, he did the national,

00:09:31.400 then local, and all of those people all the way along, and he has formed a government, a shadow

00:09:37.460 government that thinks like he does, and they're radicals. They're mainly Marxists. Okay? So I contend,

00:09:47.400 if you look at the new Democratic Party, you'll see that that is, that's a shadow government. They are not

00:09:54.560 looking to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. They are looking to overthrow

00:10:00.120 the free market system. Two, control the airwaves. I don't think we even need to address that, but let

00:10:07.840 me just say this. Have you noticed how if you speak out against George Soros, the media goes

00:10:14.700 absolutely apoplectic? You are immediately deemed a anti-Semite. I have nothing. I've won the Defender

00:10:26.540 of Israel award from ZOA, and it was presented by Benjamin Netanyahu. So I don't think I'm an anti-Semite.

00:10:37.260 With that being said, because I talked to you about George Soros, I'm an anti-Semite. No, and I don't

00:10:48.020 believe he was a Nazi. I've never condemned him for what he did in World War II. He, some people will

00:10:56.980 claim he collaborated. I don't think so. I think he was just doing what he had to do to survive, and I do

00:11:04.460 not blame him for any of that, nor do I condemn him for that. What I question is the fact that he

00:11:12.260 never has dealt with it. He never felt it was a problem at all. I'm sorry, but you can't take land

00:11:20.560 away from your fellow Jews while working with the Nazis and not feel something. I'm not saying that

00:11:29.220 you feel guilt or something, but you have to feel something. He didn't. That disturbs me greatly

00:11:35.640 because it says something about him being able to bury feelings and deep, deep feelings.

00:11:44.400 So control the airwaves. He absolutely has a handle on that through the new Democratic Party.

00:11:51.840 destabilize the state with a crisis. Well, he helped fund Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street.

00:11:59.760 He has funded the riots in Berkeley. I mean, look at what he's done, and he is now funding the

00:12:07.320 caravans. That's really important to remember. So is he destabling the state with a crisis? Yes,

00:12:13.760 little by little. Then provoke an election crisis. We were so close to an election crisis in the last

00:12:23.980 three years or two years. We have been told that this election was stolen, that this election wasn't

00:12:33.460 legit, that this election was hacked by the Russians, and Donald Trump was part and parcel

00:12:43.020 of that. They wanted this election crisis so badly that when it has been proven that Donald Trump did

00:12:51.220 not collude with the Russians. They're disappointed. They want it. They need it to be true. That's

00:13:01.600 critical. They need it to be true. Why? Because of number five, begin protests, have the streets start

00:13:12.500 themselves on fire and accuse fraud. Now, look at what's happening. Who gave the Russian dossier?

00:13:21.700 It was the Clinton people. Hmm. Who started Media Matters with George Soros? Oh, that's right. It was

00:13:33.300 the Clintons. Now we're starting to see this big move about the Electoral College. I have not checked into

00:13:39.440 this, but I will bet you that big money is coming from George Soros on that front as well. And when it

00:13:45.680 when we talk about accuse fraud and begin protests, do I need to say anything more than the women's march

00:13:53.640 that happened the weekend of inauguration? What were they doing? He wasn't a legitimate president.

00:14:00.400 So George Soros has done what he said he would do. This plays a role into what is happening on our

00:14:09.900 border, and you have to understand it. Now, let me give you one more chalkboard quick. This is the one

00:14:15.800 that I said every day the last year of Fox every day. There was a chalkboard that I said anarchists,

00:14:23.600 Islamists, communists, and socialists would all work together. Last night on the TV show, I pointed out

00:14:32.160 the main problem with this. There were two problems. People said they would never be a caliphate. That

00:14:36.740 was a pipe dream and or some sort of whiskey nightmare. And they also said Islamist and socialists

00:14:44.620 would never work together. Well, I kind of took that apart last night. Because what would you call

00:14:51.560 AOC, a socialist? What is Alain Omar, an Islamist? They seem to be working together, don't they? And what

00:15:02.200 are those goals? Work together against Israel. That's done. Work together against capitalism. That's done.

00:15:11.640 Work together to overturn stability. That's done. I said, this is at the time, that the protests that

00:15:20.860 these guys were working together on in the Middle East would become contagious, they would cascade,

00:15:27.160 they would sweep the Middle East, and it would lead to a caliphate. All of those things happen.

00:15:32.520 But here's what they miss. It would then the last part was it would begin to destabilize Europe and the

00:15:39.720 rest of the world. Has Europe been destabilized? Yes. How has it been destabilized? Because of

00:15:50.840 the protests that became contagious, that cascaded, that swept the Middle East, that caused the caliphate,

00:15:57.300 all of those displaced people went someplace and they were all aided by people like George Soros and

00:16:04.700 Hillary Clinton. You've got to take them, Europe. Without the caliphate, without the Middle East on fire,

00:16:13.520 you wouldn't have had the mass migration, which would would later than, as we now know,

00:16:21.860 set the entire European continent on fire and lead to things like Brexit.

00:16:29.620 The last part of that is it would then spread to the rest of the world.

00:16:34.760 That brings me to the border. And I have information that is, you can look it up yourself.

00:16:43.100 Who is doing the caravan? What is the real goal? Is this spontaneous? No, this is directly from what I

00:16:55.420 said would happen. It is happening. And my research department has buttoned it up. And I will give you

00:17:02.440 those facts in one minute.

00:17:09.260 So the New York Times had a had their welcome to the daily. And I listened to it every day just to see

00:17:16.480 their spin on things. And today it was Venezuela. And they were talking about how people have they met

00:17:21.380 somebody who has cancer and they haven't had treatment in years. And I'm thinking to myself,

00:17:24.960 why not? Why not? I thought socialized medicine was the end all and be all. Now they're talking

00:17:31.500 about how there's no food. Well, lose weight fast. Try socialism. They were talking about the power

00:17:40.640 outages. And the thing that I thought was crazy was they were talking about one city that was known as

00:17:45.820 the coldest city in Venezuela. And that is because everything was air conditioned.

00:17:51.380 Everything was air conditioned. Well, there's no air conditioning anymore. And how the people

00:17:55.800 were celebrating when they get the flicker of lights and they get a couple of hours of air

00:18:00.440 conditioning. That's how little hope they have. And they were talking about how this country that

00:18:05.700 was so wealthy and had all of the luxuries, how all of that is gone now. And I thought, is there

00:18:13.080 anybody? Is there anybody that is listening to this besides me that thinks, yep, and that's exactly

00:18:20.080 what's going to happen to America. We will in five years, you go to socialism in five, six years,

00:18:27.260 we will be going, remember the good old days? And we will be thrilled at not standing in line for

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00:19:15.580 We break for 10 seconds. Station ID.

00:19:17.760 Okay, it is really important to understand that top down, bottom up, inside out is a movement that

00:19:43.260 must have people in the government coordinating with the people on the ground to turn a country

00:19:51.500 inside out, to tear it apart. It can be torn apart by accident, but to turn it inside out,

00:19:57.960 it has to have carefully laid plans. So last year, it was almost exactly a year ago that we started

00:20:05.220 talking about the caravans. At the time, I said, these caravans are, are what is coming.

00:20:12.900 Now, this is something that I have not told you. I think until this week, I've never said this on

00:20:20.440 the air before, but I believe there is a time that is coming and Stu will tell you, I've talked about

00:20:26.680 this for probably 10 years, but I've never said it on the air. I believe there is a time that is

00:20:31.500 coming that our borders are going to be so overwhelmed and people are going to be coming into

00:20:36.300 our country and it is going to change and become very ugly and people are going to demand their land

00:20:43.840 back. People from Central and South America and Mexico are going to demand their land back

00:20:52.000 and they will kill farmers. And they will take that land. Now, I hope to God that that never happens.

00:21:03.000 I haven't said that. I've believed that for 10 years plus, but I've not said that because there was

00:21:10.900 no indication that that kind of stuff would happen, except you have to extrapolate so much,

00:21:16.860 but you are now getting real anger. You're getting desperation and a volatile situation to where

00:21:24.540 you're starting to, you're there. You have people feeding people, hatred,

00:21:30.700 are open borders policy, the sanctuary cities, the migrant caravans. They are all designed to

00:21:39.740 overload the system almost in a cloward and piven way. And the president needs to understand and needs

00:21:46.640 to fight this a different way. His instincts are right. He's fired everybody. His instincts are right.

00:21:53.280 But I don't think he has anybody around him that can tell him what the root of the problem is.

00:22:00.580 You will never fix a broken arm with painkillers. You have to fix the root of the problem.

00:22:09.320 And that is what I will show you. It's not coming from Central or South America. The problem

00:22:16.800 is coming from Chicago, Illinois. You're listening to Glenn Beck.

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00:23:39.640 VPN. If you go to YouTube now and subscribe to, uh, the Glenn Beck, uh, page, uh, you'll be alerted

00:23:47.460 as soon as we release last night show onto, uh, YouTube. Um, so you can watch it. I'm trying to

00:23:55.780 go over all of it, but it's a lot easier, um, on television with all of the visuals, but I,

00:24:02.340 I showed you just a few minutes ago or talk to you about, uh, what George Soros was doing,

00:24:07.240 how they're working to destabilize us. And that this is a continuation of what started in the

00:24:13.760 Middle East. This is the same philosophy and the same people that helped fund that, that are funding

00:24:20.600 this now. Um, the Associated Press reported just a few months ago that people without borders had been

00:24:28.160 very, very busy. Now people without borders is something that, uh, we looked at, uh, and, uh,

00:24:37.200 and said, who's, who's running these caravans? Cause if you remember right, it was, no, these are

00:24:41.780 spontaneous. I'm like, they're not spontaneous. They can't be spontaneous. How could they possibly

00:24:46.800 be spontaneous? 10,000 people, 7,000 people are walking across two countries. What about the

00:24:56.040 port-a-potty situation? How about water? How about ambulance? How there's nobody getting sick and

00:25:01.660 please, how is this possible? It's not possible. You could never do that logistically ever. You

00:25:09.860 couldn't have 7,000 people walk into a town, any town, except maybe New York city and find shelter,

00:25:18.620 find enough water. Hey, everybody, there's a seven 11 up on the next exit. Y'all want to get off?

00:25:23.260 Yeah. Okay. We need 14,000 bottles of water, please. It's not possible. So who was behind it?

00:25:32.340 Well, the caravans were organized by a group called Pueblo scene Fronteros. Now, when we looked at

00:25:39.580 that, we thought at first that this was some sort of, you know, uh, Mexican or, uh, Honduran or

00:25:48.720 it's something South of the border, but it is not. But when we went the first time and we were looking

00:25:55.420 a year ago, we tracked down the groups associated with them and we found some of the usual suspects.

00:26:01.440 We found that, uh, Pueblo scene Fronteros had been, uh, uh, had been funded up to a million dollars

00:26:10.100 by George Soros and they had put that money to work. They had been very busy in the last, uh, in the

00:26:17.080 last, uh, year. This is in an article in December that AP found that they were responsible for four

00:26:24.580 caravans. They said in the AP that, uh, Pueblo sin Fronteros had helped charter the route, arrange

00:26:32.540 bus transportation, negotiate with Mexican officials to provide protection and raised more than $46,000

00:26:39.120 for emergency housing and food. They weren't trying to stay under the radar. In fact, they were bragging

00:26:45.840 about it on social media. They said, we're the group that accomplished the largest caravan so far,

00:26:51.420 but who are they? Where do they come from? I want to introduce you to Emma Lozano. She is currently

00:27:02.020 listed as the executive director for people without borders. She is also the head founder of another

00:27:08.640 group based out of Chicago called centro scene Fronteros or center without borders. Now, Emma is well

00:27:17.540 known in the Chicago Marxist, uh, arena. She is part of a Marxist, communist, Leninist activist family

00:27:26.880 that spans decades. Her brother, Rudy Lozano helped found the center for autonomous social action or CASA.

00:27:36.960 This was a Marxist Leninist group that advocated to listen to this in Chicago, Marxist Leninist that

00:27:43.820 advocated ethnic Mexican class revolution. So you have a revolutionary that is trying to get Hispanics to

00:27:53.200 stand up and claim revolution. He had preached about a world without borders. He was known as, um, a comrade

00:28:03.020 Rudy. A study in UC San Diego described these two brother and sister as this, these latest members,

00:28:12.820 a zealous group of college students, community organizers, and young professionals strove to lead and build a

00:28:20.220 national immigrant rights movement vis-a-vis CASA informed by far left politics, Marxist Leninist thought a

00:28:30.100 communist ideology based on the theories of Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin with an international worldview. They called for

00:28:39.120 collective mobilization. Now, Rudy has a son. Rudy's son is Pepe. This is Emma's nephew. This is another

00:28:49.540 character in the, uh, the high echelon community organizer and activist groups in Chicago. In 2005, Pepe decided to

00:28:59.360 become a member of the young communist league. Then in 2006, he was listed as a member of the Illinois

00:29:05.480 communist party. These are not socialists. No socialists. We don't mean what they had in Russia.

00:29:15.120 We mean what they have in Sweden. Well, that's just wrong. They don't have socialism in Sweden.

00:29:20.400 They have big welfare in a capitalist country. These people are not saying socialists. These people are

00:29:27.780 saying communism. Now, four years, uh, four years after the murder of Emma's brother, Rudy in Chicago,

00:29:37.100 Emma found, uh, uh, Emma founded the center without borders to continue his work from CASA people without

00:29:46.760 borders would soon follow, but this doesn't even bring in the other half of the family. Walter slim Coleman.

00:29:53.680 That is the guy that married Emma. Walter and Emma are co-pastors at the Lincoln United Memorial

00:30:01.720 Church. Walter is also another who's who in the Chicago Marxist family. In the late 1980s,

00:30:09.560 he helped to elect, uh, Helen Schiller. She's, uh, she was a city council woman in Chicago. She of course

00:30:15.540 was a Marxist. She organized the white support arm for the black Panthers called the intercommunal

00:30:21.860 survival committee. The, the, the tribune in Chicago called her a career revolutionary.

00:30:29.940 So what you have is this strange Brady bunch where Carl Marx is the father and Friedrich Engels

00:30:36.860 is donning the blonde wig and is the mother. But since there's no gender anymore, it, I guess it works

00:30:43.260 with a family that is engaging in revolutionary class warfare. Now, this is where you might know

00:30:52.020 these people. In 2006, Emma and Walter were pastors at the United Methodist Church in Chicago.

00:31:01.360 Coleman, the father, the father of the husband had gone relatively quiet and as is from his days of as

00:31:07.040 an activist. And he found himself back in the center of a storm when he very publicly allowed

00:31:12.700 his church to be a sanctuary for an illegal immigrant named Elvira, uh, Arielano. I believe

00:31:19.180 her name was, do you remember? Pat is in the studio. Do you remember her? She was the one, uh, that did the

00:31:24.960 horror movies late night, right? She was, she hosted the horror movies. She's the one that the

00:31:29.080 Oak Ridge boys sing about. No, yes. Okay. No, no, no. She was the one that was, uh, deported for,

00:31:36.760 I think fraud, uh, in 1997. She came back, she just crossed the border again. She came back the

00:31:44.200 same year. She goes back up to Chicago. She's hanging out with all the Marxists and, uh, they find her

00:31:50.680 again in 2002 when she's arrested again for fraud. But instead of facing deportation,

00:31:58.420 they let her go. And she goes immediately to this Marxist church, this United Methodist church.

00:32:06.100 And these two people let her in. And remember she and her son were, were kept in sanctuary.

00:32:14.640 She declared sanctuary. I do remember that. Remember that? And everybody was like, oh,

00:32:19.100 these poor people. And oh my gosh, what are we doing? She was a Marxist. She was arrested for fraud.

00:32:26.060 And she had already been evicted for fraud one other time. And what did she do? She's with these

00:32:33.580 communists in this church. And so as she's in this church, she becomes the face of the sanctuary city

00:32:43.340 movement. She's the reason why that took off. So what was the roots of that? Wasn't compassion.

00:32:50.360 It was communism. So she, while she's in the church, she also founds an organization called

00:32:57.360 Latino families United, which advocates for sanctuary amnesty and a partnership. Oh, with the, the pastor

00:33:08.780 and his wife and their two organizations. And what they decide to do is they need waves of people coming

00:33:17.820 across the border. They need caravans. It's just like a cloward pivot situation. It is for the border

00:33:27.380 where they're just trying to overwhelm the system. Correct. Correct. Exactly. Right. They're following

00:33:32.780 that playbook. Exactly. Right. So they are all working together. And the reason why we found them

00:33:39.320 is because of Coleman's Methodist church is 2176 West division street in Chicago, which is coincidental

00:33:47.140 because that's the same address for the Latino families United. And it's a coincidence because it's

00:33:52.800 also the address for people without borders. So we know that all of the people that are organizing these

00:33:57.580 caravans are all from the same address that church in Chicago. This is, this is not spontaneous.

00:34:05.040 This is not about grassroots. This is not about grassroots. It's not even about socialism.

00:34:11.000 This is about communism. This is about communism. This is what the president needs to know. People

00:34:22.200 like Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, the newcomers like Ocasio-Cortez and Elian Omar,

00:34:28.720 they are the top of this movement. And they are, they, they absolutely know about the Chicago

00:34:37.560 connections. George Soros is funding it through Chicago. Now they laugh and mock that. I don't

00:34:44.240 care. We have all the paperwork. Yeah. We have all of the paperwork. Are you going to listen to the

00:34:51.820 mainstream media or do your own homework? All you have to do is this all public information.

00:34:58.300 You can find, look for the address of people without borders. Look for the, look for the

00:35:04.160 address of this church. Look for where Elvira was hanging out, who she was hanging out with.

00:35:11.460 We have all of it, all of it. This is not some crazy theory that we should see if we can connect

00:35:18.480 the dots. The dots are all there. We have them on tape knowing right now who they are on the other

00:35:26.800 side of the border. They're bragging about it. You're not going to solve the border problem.

00:35:34.660 If you don't, we would never have won against the Nazis. If we didn't call them by name,

00:35:42.140 it wasn't a bunch of Germans that were upset. It was a Nazi ideology that was the poison.

00:35:49.800 This is not a group of people that want to come here for any reason. That's secondary. Those people

00:35:57.540 are being used. It is a communist ideology that is trying to break our border.

00:36:04.280 Right. You're not saying that all the people that are coming here are communists.

00:36:08.080 They're being used. They're being used by communists. Yeah. Where, where are they? Where

00:36:13.080 are they helping these people in cages? They are intentionally putting them in cage. They want

00:36:18.440 them in cages because they need the press to show the cages. They need the system to break down.

00:36:25.360 And when the system breaks down, it does exactly what we're saying we have to do right now,

00:36:30.540 which is release these people. Just release us. Just release them. Just release them into the,

00:36:34.600 into the population. More and more are coming. It is a human wave. And this is, this is what China

00:36:42.380 used against the United States in Korea. It's a human wave theory and it's what's happening. And

00:36:49.220 if the president wants to solve this, and I do believe he wants to solve it, he just can't figure

00:36:54.560 out why he can't solve it. Nobody will give him any answers because nobody's willing to look at the

00:37:00.820 root of it. And this is the root. This didn't start in Guatemala. This started in the Middle East.

00:37:08.840 This started with the same people in America who were rallying people around the Muslim Brotherhood

00:37:16.020 in Egypt. It's the same people. And in this case, we know where the head of it is. And it's in

00:37:23.580 Chicago, Illinois. You want to solve it, you have to at least first name the problem.

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00:43:32.120 Promo code BECK. We have a really great guest on, in just a second, the history of the future. His

00:43:48.160 name is Blake Harris. It's a story I have not heard before about virtual reality that I think is just

00:43:56.760 a fascinating story. First, let me give you some of the facts here. These are the latest facts on

00:44:02.080 the border to show you, no matter what you're hearing from either side, if anybody is trying

00:44:07.020 to make this into political, you know, political hay, the border is not about politics. It is about

00:44:13.680 people and it is about a crisis on the border. Yeah. I mean, the border crisis is no longer a

00:44:20.320 right-wing talking point. I mean, this is now mainstream media completely admitting. I mean,

00:44:24.020 obviously the left disagrees on how to deal with this, but it is a crisis. I'll give you how stark

00:44:30.140 this is. There's an increase across border crossings of 375% year to year. Now, it is 93,000 was the

00:44:40.540 number of total border crossings last year, which is a 12-year high. They thought it might hit 100,000,

00:44:45.480 just came in below that at 93,000. The crazy part though is the way this is happening because there

00:44:51.380 have been times in our past where these numbers have been higher, but it's been almost solely,

00:44:55.120 you know, single males looking for work. Like that's what it was back in the day. That's not

00:44:59.100 what it is anymore. Now it is families, it is unaccompanied minors. But to just give you the

00:45:04.760 family situation here for a second, if you remember the whole family separation controversy when Jeff

00:45:10.260 Sessions was still in there, it was rising fast with families crossing the border. And the idea was

00:45:17.920 as a deterrent to come up with this idea, hey, don't bring your kids here because if you bring

00:45:22.620 your kids here, you're going to get separated. You can argue with that policy if you want,

00:45:25.660 but that was the thought behind it. So at that point, they were panicking because it had risen

00:45:31.980 to 8,000 families per month crossing the border. 8,000. It's a big deal. The issue here is when

00:45:42.620 Sessions implemented the family separation, the increase stopped and it stuck around 8,000 for

00:45:48.980 as long as they had the policy in there. Then they reversed the policy amidst all the controversy.

00:45:54.120 Obviously, Sessions eventually gets fired. It starts increasing slowly from 8,000, goes up and up and up

00:46:00.620 and up and up. It hit about 35,000, four times the issue that Sessions was trying to solve a couple of

00:46:07.380 months ago. The latest numbers out have family crossings at over 53,000. We're almost seven times

00:46:17.480 the issue of the initial crisis. And the reason, you know, this separation of families and putting

00:46:23.720 kids in cages, that was happening during Obama. I went down and we were giving aid, if you remember

00:46:28.840 right. It was very unpopular. Oh, yeah. And I gave aid and I said, we have to look at the human

00:46:34.180 situation that is happening here. The the peak, the peak crossing in that crisis with Obama was

00:46:42.200 60,000 people. You were up to 50 percent over that number. And again, you can disagree or agree on all

00:46:49.100 these policies surrounding it. But the bottom line is this is a real thing. And, you know, people are

00:46:53.560 really noticing it and trying to figure out what the heck to do about it. So you won't be able to

00:46:57.340 figure out what to do about it if you don't know what's behind it. And there are several factors,

00:47:03.140 but there is an organizing committee and and we go over that. You can find it at YouTube.

00:47:10.700 It was our broadcast last night. And and please share that. We've got to solve this problem

00:47:17.760 humanely. And these people are being used. They are absolutely being used. And we'll give you

00:47:24.420 more on that. Just go to Glenn Beck dot com and look for last night's broadcast. It should be right

00:47:30.500 there on the front page. All right. I want to talk to Blake Harris. The he's an author of a book,

00:47:36.900 The History of the Future, Oculus, Facebook and the revolution that swept virtual reality.

00:47:43.060 You know, I am so fascinated by virtual reality because it is once you really experience great

00:47:51.600 virtual reality, you see how powerful this is going to be. I mean, I I don't see people really

00:47:58.920 leaving their house very much after virtual reality, quite honestly. But the story of the

00:48:04.200 guy who came up with Oculus is has really been lost. I didn't even know this. And it is a fascinating

00:48:11.140 story. Blake is here with us now. Hi, Blake. How are you? Hey, I'm great. Thank you so much for

00:48:16.100 having me on. And I'm glad that you've tried good virtual reality and seen that it's going to change

00:48:20.760 the future. Oh, my gosh, it is. And I'm not sure. I mean, it's going to change it in good ways.

00:48:26.720 And I also see us kind of ending up like what was that Pixar movie where they're all big fat on a

00:48:34.460 spaceship. Oh, and Wally. Yeah. Wally. I mean, I can see us all kind of turning into that as well.

00:48:41.260 And we'll get into that here in a second. Can you can you just tell us the story of of of

00:48:46.880 Oculus and and what happened and who first invented that and the story of this kid?

00:48:53.740 Sure. So this all happened back in 2012. So seven years ago. And, you know, for however much

00:49:02.440 your listeners know about virtual reality now, back then, even less people knew or cared about it.

00:49:07.960 You know, essentially, back in 2012, virtual reality was a technological punchline along the lines of,

00:49:13.280 you know, flying cars or jetpacks. Correct. The thing that was like, you know,

00:49:17.480 a sci fi trope that was maybe going to happen, but never did. And it was simply that we ever thought

00:49:21.100 it would. And most people had just given up caring about it, thinking it would happen.

00:49:26.240 Except there was a young man out there, a guy named Palmer Luckey, which is a real name,

00:49:31.820 even though it sounds kind of like a fictional character name. That's perfect. My book.

00:49:35.200 Um, and so this kid, uh, this 19 year old kid, Palmer Luckey, he was living in a trailer in

00:49:40.680 Long Beach, California, and, uh, he was just obsessed with virtual reality. Um, he once

00:49:46.260 described his trailer to me and I said, Palmer, that basically sounds like the, uh, the meth

00:49:51.340 fan on Breaking Bad, except your, your trailer has been, uh, retrofitted to build virtual reality

00:49:56.700 headsets. And he said, yeah, that's pretty much exactly what it looked like. And so, um, yeah,

00:50:02.120 so, so, so imagine this, uh, little 19 year old mad scientist building virtual reality

00:50:06.920 headsets. And he basically like cracked the code that had eluded so many, uh, scientists

00:50:12.400 and tech people and sci fi lovers for years and, uh, built this virtual reality headset

00:50:17.720 called the Oculus Rift. And it, and you know, I would say the rest is history, but the rest

00:50:23.320 is a book and the rest is a, this company Oculus that less than two years later, he sold the

00:50:28.820 Facebook for over $2 billion. And, um, you know, we're still in early phases of virtual

00:50:33.840 reality and where it's headed. So, uh, you know, you really got to admire the young man

00:50:38.040 for having this ambition and this passion for this thing that we all thought was kind

00:50:41.720 of silly back then.

00:50:42.820 Okay. So I, I, uh, I was at Facebook right after they purchased this, uh, and they were

00:50:48.260 all excited. It's coming, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. And then you don't hear

00:50:51.440 anything about it. Uh, and we're still waiting for real good virtual reality. What the hell

00:50:57.860 happened? Um, well, the Facebook, if it all had a really big impact. So back then, you

00:51:04.360 know, a large part of Palmer's motivation was that he is a, he is, and he was a gamer.

00:51:10.420 And so for him, he wanted to just step through the computer screen and actually enter a game

00:51:15.400 and feel like it was all around him. And so gaming was the initial focus. Uh, you know,

00:51:20.700 they, they did a Kickstarter campaign. They raised, they thought they were going to try

00:51:24.060 to raise $400,000. They raised $3 million. And, you know, their, um, their slogan was

00:51:30.140 stepped into the game. So it was all about gaming. And then once they sold the Facebook,

00:51:33.660 uh, you know, Facebook's interest was not so much the gaming. It was insert whatever you

00:51:39.140 want to describe, uh, you know, uh, social engineer, um, or, you know, communication,

00:51:44.720 whatever the case may be. And so that's a big part of why it's, uh, stalled out for the

00:51:49.180 past few years, but, uh, they actually are releasing a headset called the Oculus Quest,

00:51:54.420 which is going to be the most affordable and most technologically sophisticated headset.

00:51:59.200 Um, that it's going to cost $400. Uh, and that comes out next month. And then you have the big

00:52:04.720 question that I keep getting asked by people is this is by far the best, most affordable headset,

00:52:09.920 but Facebook owns it. And I don't trust them. What should I do? Should I buy it? And I don't have

00:52:14.380 a very good answer to that right now. It's amazing how, uh, how Facebook has just blown

00:52:19.620 their, their trust. I, let me ask you something off topic and then I get back to the story.

00:52:24.200 Um, Mark Zuckerberg keeps saying things like, you know what, we're going to come out with this

00:52:33.240 product. We're going to do this product. And then that doesn't happen. Is he even in control

00:52:38.080 of his own company anymore? I would say that he actually is absolutely in control of his

00:52:44.320 own company more than any other CEO. Um, you know, Mark announced about a year and a half

00:52:49.860 ago that he was doing, that he was going to give 99% of his money away to charity, uh, which

00:52:54.780 sounds, uh, a lot, a lot nicer and simpler than it actually is. Not to say that there's

00:53:00.620 a nefarious plot behind it, but basically he still has the majority voting share because

00:53:05.300 of how we structured the stock. And, um, I would say that, uh, Facebook is more like a

00:53:10.960 dictatorship than any other Silicon Valley company that I've ever researched. And, uh,

00:53:15.620 I'm sure we'll get to it in terms of why Palmer ended up leaving Facebook, uh, against

00:53:21.460 his will and the politics of it all. But that was really all driven by Mark directly.

00:53:25.500 Yeah. Cause we, the politics of it are really interesting. There's a Trump tie to this story

00:53:29.180 and it's, it's a fascinating one. It's one we've heard many times in, in other industries.

00:53:34.420 It's fascinating that is this level and you've never heard it. Uh, it's, it's, it will get

00:53:41.640 to that Blake. We're going to take a one minute break and then we'll come back. The, uh, the

00:53:44.680 name of the book that is laying this out is the history of the future by Blake Harris.

00:53:49.280 We'll continue our conversation with him in just a second. First, uh, let me tell you a

00:53:53.900 little bit about a relief factor. Is it true? Uh, Glenn virtual reality could start a rehab

00:53:59.760 revolution to stop pain. I have no idea. What are you saying? They are saying that, uh,

00:54:04.600 now they're, they're saying virtual activities can help pain. I mean, I guess if you do, you

00:54:09.260 could pick up your grandkids virtually, you could pick up, you could go run a race virtually,

00:54:14.080 then you're not going to have any of the pain associated with it. And I'll end up on that

00:54:17.840 spaceship in Wally. That sounds great. Anyway, if there are things that you can't do because

00:54:22.640 of pain, uh, I mean, people have been living in pain for a long, long, long, long time.

00:54:27.500 And there are people who have just given up and said, I'm just going to die this way.

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00:55:16.860 station ID. Talking to Blake Harris, the book is the history of the future. I would also

00:55:34.780 highly recommend his book console wars. I mean, he's a great author. Uh, Blake is with us and so

00:55:40.020 far, Blake, really what you have here is a great American entrepreneurial story, right? This kid who

00:55:45.240 is in a trailer, he brings a virtual reality from nothing to a $2 billion sale at Facebook.

00:55:51.880 You know, the, the technology is, is questionable about where it's going at this point with Facebook,

00:55:56.340 but the exit of the inventor of this is a fascinating story.

00:56:03.000 So he's, I mean, to me, I don't know how familiar I am with my writing, but, but everything I write,

00:56:08.400 I always try to write with my grandmother in mind, you know, how can I get her interested in this

00:56:11.540 tech story? How can I get her interested in Sega Nintendo? And so to me, this was always just a

00:56:15.480 story of the American dream in 2012, 2016, 2019, more so than it was about virtual reality. And,

00:56:22.640 um, then the final third of the book becomes this other monstrosity, which I guess might actually be,

00:56:30.220 um, you know, a, a, a good lens into the perversion of the American dream, just with how politics

00:56:35.660 weighs into weighs into everything. Um, but, but I also want to say, you know, you mentioned

00:56:40.980 right before the break that it's sort of astonishing how much Facebook has burned our

00:56:45.380 trust over the past few years. And, and, and, and that's true for me, you know, they gave me

00:56:50.900 unprecedented, almost unlimited access. So I had a pretty high opinion of them just for my own

00:56:57.600 selfish reasons. But what I came to discover during my research, uh, before my access was eventually

00:57:03.360 cut off because of what I discovered was just really, uh, really immoral and, and, and terrible.

00:57:10.080 And, and then I should mention that, you know, I'm a lifelong liberal, uh, not, not a fan at all of

00:57:15.640 Trump. So, um, you know, as we'll get into now, like what I found, I, you know, I certainly wasn't

00:57:22.200 looking for a sympathetic, uh, Trump supporter story, but that's what I found. Wow. Okay. So tell us the story.

00:57:29.400 Um, sure. So it's September of 2016. So this was like, uh, six weeks before the presidential

00:57:37.680 election. There was a, an article that came out, uh, about Palmer Luckey about the inventor of Oculus.

00:57:43.700 And, uh, the headline was, uh, Facebook billionaire secretly funding Trump's meme machine.

00:57:49.620 And the, uh, insinuation explicitly and implicitly was that, you know, every terrible meme that you've

00:57:55.500 seen online for the past election season, everything misogynistic, anti-Semitic, hateful,

00:58:00.860 et cetera, that Palmer was like running a troll factory and that he was the person behind it all.

00:58:07.220 And, uh, that just wasn't true at all. The truth was that he made a, uh, a slightly less than $10,000

00:58:13.960 donation to a political organization that was pro-Trump, um, that was planning to put up billboards

00:58:19.720 across the country. And, uh, that, uh, you know, I always kind of wonder how people would have

00:58:25.660 reacted if they just had known the truth because in Silicon Valley, they might've reacted just as

00:58:29.100 badly. But anyway, so unpopular in such a short amount of time, um, to the extent that, you know,

00:58:36.440 uh, one of my favorite publications, at least previously wired, you know, you'd think sort of

00:58:41.620 an even headed up publications, non-centationalistic their, their headline in the midst of this was

00:58:47.300 that Palmer, their headlines that Palmer lucky is the worst. That's it. Palmer lucky the worst. Um,

00:58:53.560 and, and so there, there was this, you know, PR crisis and naturally, you know, Palmer wanted to

00:59:01.760 write a statement to set out what was true and what was not true, um, about the media reports and to

00:59:07.320 say that he was a Trump supporter, but that, you know, this trolling thing and all these other aspects

00:59:12.000 were not true. So he wrote a statement, um, this happened on a Thursday night. He was not allowed

00:59:17.280 to post it. He was not allowed to say that he was a Trump supporter, uh, as it went up the flagpole

00:59:22.460 at Facebook to the executive level, which I found, you know, initially hard to believe that that was

00:59:27.880 actually the case. But then, uh, I certainly believed it was the case because, um, I was able to finally

00:59:33.960 obtain the email records of it. And, and I learned that the reason that it took so long for him to post

00:59:41.200 his eventual statement was that, um, Mark Zuckerberg weighed in Mark Zuckerberg personally

00:59:46.460 drafted the statement that Palmer had to post. And the statement that he drafted said that Palmer

00:59:51.820 would be voting for Gary Johnson. Um, so not Trump, that was too unacceptable to say he was a Trump

00:59:57.940 supporter. And so he had to post the statement saying that he supported Gary Johnson written by

01:00:02.880 Mark himself. And, uh, you know, he did that in order to save his job. Wait, wait, wait, wait,

01:00:08.860 wait, but he wasn't voting for Gary Johnson. Correct. That is, that makes it illegal and unethical

01:00:16.160 that he would, uh, be directed by the head of one of the most powerful organizations

01:00:20.760 to say that he was supporting a politician that he wasn't. Um, wow. Yeah. So I couldn't believe it

01:00:29.600 myself. So, so wait a minute. So how is it that a guy with $2 billion, uh, from, from Facebook

01:00:37.560 doesn't sue Facebook for this? Um, doesn't press charges. Well, part of it was at the time,

01:00:46.680 um, you know, I interviewed over 200 people for the book. And so I, I talked to some of the people

01:00:52.140 that he confided to and asked for advice from about, should he post a statement that was illegal

01:00:57.600 and that he didn't agree with. And their response was basically, yes, you know, you could sue Facebook

01:01:03.160 and potentially win, but you wouldn't be at the company anymore. And it would take years. And

01:01:07.280 more than anything, Palmer wanted to remain at the company. You know, it was his baby. It was

01:01:12.200 what he had done with most of his adult life. Granted, it was a short adult life at that time. You

01:01:16.620 know, he was only 24. Um, but, but yeah, I mean, he, he has a very strong case if he ever wants to

01:01:24.780 pursue legal action. Um, I assumed that he signed an NDA of some kind, uh, that prevents

01:01:31.220 that when, uh, he was eventually fired. But, uh, but yeah, he was eventually fired. He basically,

01:01:38.300 um, after he posted that statement, he was, uh, put on permanent vacation. Uh, Facebook employees

01:01:45.900 were told that Palmer wanted to take time off of work. It was framed as Palmer's decision.

01:01:50.900 Um, one of my favorite and saddest moments is Palmer's trying to waiting to come back a couple

01:01:56.600 of weeks later and he's, uh, you know, participating in a town hall call by a conference, um, or

01:02:02.420 actually not participating because he was not allowed to interact with anyone. Um, and he

01:02:06.040 was listening and he found out during this meeting that he had asked for six more weeks of vacation.

01:02:11.740 Okay. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I got to take a break. We'll, we'll come back. This is,

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01:02:27.220 Oculus and how he was forced out because he was a Trump supporter. The name of the book is

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01:04:04.460 it out now. Welcome to the program. Uh, we're talking to, uh, Blake Harris, who's really fascinating.

01:04:12.940 Um, he's written a book called the history of the future, Oculus Facebook and the revolution,

01:04:17.280 this swept virtual reality. Um, but, but it is, it is interesting to me that he is a liberal,

01:04:25.020 doesn't necessarily like Donald Trump, um, and really liked Facebook going in and unprecedented

01:04:31.340 access. And, uh, and then when the inventor of, of Oculus, this, this entrepreneur is, you

01:04:40.680 know, 20 some year old kid sells to Facebook and the, and the, the election heats up all of

01:04:49.360 a sudden he is in trouble with Facebook and they force him to put out a deal. It says he's not voting

01:04:56.540 for Trump. He's voting libertarian when that wasn't the truth. He plays ball. He's, he's told to go

01:05:03.920 take a vacation. They, they frame it as he's decided to, he's on a conference call, uh, and he finds out that

01:05:13.220 he had asked for even more vacation and you know, what's coming at the, the end of this, we, we pick

01:05:20.000 it back up with Blake Harris who Blake, I have to tell you, I'm, I, I love people, um, who, you know,

01:05:27.560 I may disagree with, uh, sometimes vehemently on, on things, but are open-minded enough to go, well,

01:05:34.020 yeah, but this part is true or this part is true and just let the chips fall where they may.

01:05:39.080 You're, you're a very rare species. Uh, I don't know if you know that.

01:05:43.720 No, thank you. And unfortunately I've come to realize that or to believe that that is the case.

01:05:48.780 You know, my book was originally due to Harper Collins. The manuscript was due in September

01:05:53.020 of 2016, the same month that this all went down. And I ended up spending an extra two years,

01:05:56.980 um, you know, for no pay working on this thing, because this is a crazy story. And you mentioned

01:06:02.660 earlier that, you know, you hadn't really heard about this and, and it sounds kind of bonkers

01:06:08.460 because, you know, every other Facebook scandal to date, Mark Zuckerberg is not directly involved

01:06:13.680 in. He could always sort of throw up his arms and say, oh, I didn't know, or, you know, that

01:06:17.820 was some other person's fault. But he is the one who personally wrote this statement, uh,

01:06:23.100 which was just bad for him to even put that in email. Um, and, and, and, you know, you're

01:06:29.680 like, how, how is this not national news? How is this not breaking news? But then I talked to

01:06:34.400 other journalists and I understand why, you know, these are the journalists, these are

01:06:39.240 journalists I know under the context of, they read my first book about Sega Nintendo and

01:06:43.720 loved it. So I, you know, I think they have a somewhat positive opinion of me. And I reached

01:06:47.980 out to a lot of them to tell them that they had the story wrong. And, and they, and I,

01:06:53.100 you know, I offered to send them evidence. I told them I was the only person who actually

01:06:55.760 interviewed all the participants in this and had all the archival information. And they

01:06:59.760 basically said, yeah, but who cares? He's a Trump supporter. So maybe it's an accurate,

01:07:04.640 but she, and, and, and, you know, if I had told that to my mom and she said that I still

01:07:10.560 would be kind of bummed that she didn't care about what was true and what was not, but these

01:07:14.440 are journalists. These, this is their job. And, and then when I told them, you know, not

01:07:20.200 only was the reporting about Palmer wrong, but the reason he was fired was for political

01:07:24.780 discrimination. They almost left my faith to say, yeah, but that's not the kind of

01:07:29.180 discrimination I care about. Political discrimination is perhaps probably, you

01:07:35.160 know, less of a persistent issue than other forms of discrimination, but when it

01:07:39.560 happens, it's still bad. We can all agree upon that. I thought, um, no, apparently

01:07:44.360 not. So, so are you finding anyone starting to wake up Blake? Is there anyone?

01:07:50.880 Cause I mean, I know on the, the, the right, I have found a few people that are in fact,

01:07:58.560 several that are, are like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm out, I'm done with this. I'll call balls

01:08:03.900 and strikes and, you know, my side screws up. I don't care. I will say that they're

01:08:09.500 screwed up here because this is insane. Uh, are you finding any, anybody that is starting

01:08:15.320 to open their eyes to what is being created?

01:08:18.380 Um, unfortunately less than you'd expect, you know, I, I, being a liberal and existing

01:08:25.100 and probably some sort of, you know, liberal bubble election day was a wake up call for

01:08:30.200 me. You know, I was very upset, but my thought was okay. You know, the, the voice of half the

01:08:36.300 country, the majority, um, the electoral college has spoken. I should actually listen to them

01:08:41.200 because I find Trump repugnant, but they don't. And they are my fellow citizens. Let me figure

01:08:47.620 out what I'm missing. And I tried to do that. And, and for, I feel like for the 24 hours

01:08:52.420 after the election, a lot of other liberals were in a similar boat of, you know, we got

01:08:55.900 to talk to the other side. And then they instead decided to just double down and say, no, no,

01:09:00.600 no, these people are just stupid or they don't understand that they're voting against their

01:09:04.500 self-interest or whatever. Um, and, and so I, you would have thought that more people would

01:09:10.500 be waking up and just want to call balls and strikes and say, all right, I don't like Trump

01:09:14.780 or I don't agree with his approach on this, but I actually think a strategy here was a

01:09:18.820 good one. And that's not the case. Like, you know, you, you mentioned right before you

01:09:24.120 had me on that, uh, your show from last night, um, was now on YouTube talking about the border

01:09:29.240 in a nonpolitical way. And I found myself almost laughing because on the left, there's no such

01:09:33.740 thing as nonpolitical. Um, specifically in Silicon Valley, you know, there was a story last week

01:09:39.780 that two weeks ago, Google had put together an ethics board for artificial intelligence.

01:09:43.820 This is crazy. That sounds like a pretty good idea. Yeah. Really good. Within less than a week

01:09:48.680 later, it was disbanded because there was so much outrage internally at Google, uh, because one of

01:09:53.540 the participants was the conservative. Yeah. The heritage foundation, which is not the heritage

01:09:59.020 foundation. You gotta be kidding me. That's a radical group to them. Exactly. And that's really what I

01:10:06.800 found, um, in so many ways. And it seeps into so much of what Facebook does, um, as a company

01:10:11.820 internally and also externally in the product. It's like this idea that yeah, all opinions, all

01:10:16.620 political opinions are equal, but then there's animals, animals aren't best ways. Like, yeah,

01:10:20.300 but some are more equal than others. And you know, every, uh, conservative perspective is it's not just

01:10:27.760 another opinion. It's not a different way of looking at things. It's not, they might be right.

01:10:31.640 I might be right. It's just a value judgment. It's, you know, if you do it one by one,

01:10:35.880 it's, it's all wrong. It's all harmful. It's all, it needs to be fought against, which is kind of

01:10:41.140 crazy. Um, cause you know, does it concern you that there's a concern you that the people like

01:10:46.900 this or Zuckerberg, a guy who you went in admiring, uh, the, the, the power that they have. And now the,

01:10:55.840 the, the growing collusion or, or partnering with the United States government, that's,

01:11:03.140 does that keep you up at night?

01:11:06.220 It does. I haven't slept very well, Glenn.

01:11:08.400 I haven't slept very well. No, it does. Yeah. I mean, I think you see now that people,

01:11:13.480 you know, Facebook is no longer the tech darlings, uh, you know, maybe connecting the world didn't

01:11:17.940 turn out to be the best idea. Now, now people are starting to look, look into Facebook and

01:11:22.540 discover these scandals. A lot of times there's things that happened years ago. Um, and, and it's

01:11:27.580 not surprising that these things happen. Um, it's such a sloppy company. Um, and, and they,

01:11:33.660 they, they don't like, I guess one of the first ways that I really realized that what I was

01:11:41.260 uncovering to actually fit with, with, with the culture there was, you know, one of their top

01:11:46.460 executives who had been there since the beginning, uh, he would routinely share stories, um, during

01:11:51.540 the election season. Like, there's no such thing as a good Trump supporter. Well, I mean, there's,

01:11:55.140 there's, there's Trump supporters of Facebook. Uh, they learned pretty quickly not to talk about

01:12:00.040 it. In fact, um, you know, the Palmer one is, is kind of interesting because four months before,

01:12:05.660 uh, you know, he was outed as a Trump supporter as the worst person. Um, you know, part of the

01:12:10.940 issue was that he made his donation for $10,000 anonymously. Um, and, and four months earlier,

01:12:17.560 he had been at a Trump rally and been willing to appear on camera at a Trump rally. You know,

01:12:23.120 like he seemed to have no issue with being associated with Trump, but then in between

01:12:27.080 what happened was Peter Thiel was revealed to be a Trump supporter. Everyone at Facebook,

01:12:31.840 not everyone, a lot of people at Facebook tried to get him fired off the board for that reason

01:12:35.740 alone. And not just employees, but Reed Hastings, the CEO of Netflix, who was also a board member,

01:12:40.780 um, believed that that demonstrated enough bad judgment that Peter should not be on the board.

01:12:46.040 Um, and so Palmer realized, oh, I should probably not be vocal about my support. And that was

01:12:52.080 probably wise because when it was revealed that he was a Trump supporter, um, he didn't end up at

01:12:56.720 the company anymore. Blake, two more for me. I, uh, first of all, you know, the idea that every,

01:13:03.620 there's no such thing as a good Trump supporter was pretty widespread at this time, particularly in

01:13:07.500 the media and through a lot of these tech companies. Um, and obviously that's, uh, you know,

01:13:11.400 a completely unfair thing. However, at that time, there was a lot of really bad stuff on the internet

01:13:17.720 that was associated with Trump supporters. Was there any evidence that Palmer Luckey

01:13:21.940 participated in anything really bad when it comes to, uh, you know, some of the darkest sides of that

01:13:28.600 election? Absolutely not. And I have essentially staked my career on this. So, you know, like I said,

01:13:35.920 I spent an extra two years on this. Uh, it's, I didn't just willy nilly decide, oh no, he's a,

01:13:40.560 he's a good guy or he didn't do anything wrong. Like I looked very deeply into his online activities,

01:13:46.240 um, and, and spent, I think like 20 hours interviewing the founder of the organization

01:13:51.420 that he donated to, um, because, you know, it was alleged that these were white supremacists and

01:13:55.260 I didn't want to just have one phone call because, you know, who knows, maybe he was lying to me to

01:14:00.320 try to protect his image. But the, like I I've spoken to Palmer almost every day for the past three

01:14:06.900 years. I've spent years looking into all this stuff. There's no evidence of any wrongdoing.

01:14:13.900 And I would bet my life that he did not do anything, um, like that, that we would consider,

01:14:19.060 uh, beyond the pale or, or, you know, unacceptable.

01:14:22.980 Wow. And the last one, Blake, is, uh, you mentioned it about your career. Do you have one

01:14:28.640 after this book? Because not only are you fighting for a Trump supporter, which is not

01:14:33.440 what something you're supposed to be doing. Uh, but also, you know, you got access to Facebook.

01:14:38.420 You were able to get an incredibly detailed account because of that access. And now you've,

01:14:43.680 you know, because you're being honest here, you know, they are no longer going to be fans of yours.

01:14:47.960 People in the future are going to be hesitant to give you access to the next thing.

01:14:52.580 Yep. Uh, that's, that's pretty much what I expect to happen. But, um, you know,

01:14:58.840 the only thing I published, um, while I was sort of undercover in Facebook for these past couple

01:15:04.340 of years was, was an article, um, called, this is how fake news happens. And it was all publicly

01:15:09.520 available information. I did. I wanted everyone to just be able to see, here's what we, here's what

01:15:14.140 actually happened. And here's how it was reported. And here, here's how this crazy game of telephone

01:15:18.400 happened to make it even worse. Um, and the response to that, you know, was like 50% of people

01:15:24.000 saying, Oh, thank you for pointing out that the media messed up here with Palmer. And then 50% of people

01:15:28.420 calling me a Nazi, even though, you know, happily bar mitzvahed, uh, I think that's weird. I'd be a

01:15:33.780 Nazi. It's a strange choice. I got the defender of Israel award from Benjamin Netanyahu. And I also

01:15:39.500 am anti-Semitic somehow or another. So, and so, um, you know, people call me Nazi, a white supremacist,

01:15:45.840 uh, whatever, complicit, blah, blah, blah. And that was the reaction I kind of expected. But instead what

01:15:50.820 happened is that it's been almost a hundred percent positive. Um, and then there's just been silence from

01:15:56.620 like, you know, my first book won like gaming awards and I was named like a gaming personality

01:16:03.100 of the year. And as of now, the book's been out for a month or so. And there has been a zero coverage

01:16:09.840 of it on any tech or gaming mainstream website. Wow. Wow. That is incredible. I'm surprised there's

01:16:17.060 not more pickup too, from conservative media on it because it, I mean, here's the thing that was not

01:16:21.280 your goal, but I mean, it is a, it's a really big story. Here is the thing. This is an amazing book.

01:16:25.640 I already own a book. I'm holding a copy of it, but that's, I got from the, this I got from the

01:16:31.000 publisher. Uh, let me just show this. So, you know, that I'm telling you the truth. I just ordered

01:16:36.900 another copy on Amazon because I want to support you. You, you and I probably disagree politically on,

01:16:44.360 I don't know, 90% of stuff. It doesn't matter. We have to have people who are willing to open

01:16:52.180 their eyes and see the truth and let the chips fall where they may. I ask every member of this

01:16:57.500 audience, if you have Kindle, it'll cost you 14 bucks. How much, I don't know how much it is as a,

01:17:02.780 as a hard bound, uh, but, uh, buy this book. You're a, it's a great book. You're going to really

01:17:09.160 enjoy it. It's an unbelievable story, but you're also supporting somebody who needs the support,

01:17:15.580 somebody who doesn't agree with you, but is willing to tell the truth. We have to reward those

01:17:22.080 people on both sides that are trying to do their best. Blake, I, I really admire you and I w I hope

01:17:30.900 that we can meet. I'd love to have you on for a podcast. Uh, but I, I really admire you and,

01:17:36.300 and congratulations. Thank you. And let us know any way we can help you.

01:17:40.440 Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. You bet. Um, take care. You bet. Blake Harris,

01:17:45.700 the history of the future, the history of the future. That is a crazy story.

01:17:52.140 How is that not a bigger deal? And I, you know, I'm on conservative media, for example,

01:17:56.720 how is that? I mean, the guy invented something that's game changing. Facebook buys it for $2 billion

01:18:02.520 and he gets forced out because he went to a Trump rally and that is not everywhere.

01:18:07.000 How am I not seeing that on Twitter? I'm seeing this about people. I saw four stories today about

01:18:11.060 people harassing people in a Trump hat. Yeah. This is a guy bigger. This is, this is,

01:18:16.360 this is gigantic. This is illegal. As Blake said, this is illegal. What they did and nothing,

01:18:25.160 nothing. Wow. This book, if you are a fan of other shows in on, on the right, urge them to have

01:18:33.960 Blake on to tell this story. This is a very important story. This, this tells you everything

01:18:39.540 you need to know about Silicon Valley. Listen to this guy. He's not on our side. He's a liberal,

01:18:46.160 but he was disgusted by what he saw and he's telling the truth. We have to help him get the word

01:18:54.960 out. Please buy this book, the history of the future. Uh, I'd love to see this, uh, go up. It's

01:19:02.120 I don't even know where it is on the charts. It's probably nowhere on the charts. Uh, let's help him

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01:23:24.120 time he spoke. That's in 1977 dollars. That was enormous. By 1979, Biden was one of the Senate's

01:23:31.000 top 25 earners of outside income. Along with 22 others on that list, he voted against a bill to limit

01:23:38.060 such earnings. Today, he gets between $100,000 and $200,000 per speech and he still is engaged in

01:23:46.740 trading. But don't cry for poor old Joe. He's scraping by on that little salary. One thing you

01:23:55.980 could never accuse Joe Biden of is failing to take care of his own. He's a family man.

01:24:01.220 When his second son, Hunter Biden, graduated from Yale Law School in 1996, Hunter was hired as a

01:24:08.720 lobbyist with MBNA, which is a major credit card company based in Delaware. Now reminder, Joe Biden

01:24:16.100 was a Delaware senator for 36 years before he became vice president. So between 1989 and 2008, MBNA was Joe's

01:24:24.960 largest corporate donor and they also employed his son. In the Senate, Joe voted against a bill that

01:24:32.620 would require credit card companies to warn consumers of the consequences of making only

01:24:37.160 minimum payments. He also voted four times for a bankruptcy bill supported by the credit card

01:24:44.080 industry that made it harder for financially strained borrowers to get protection from the creditors.

01:24:50.260 Now, I'm sure those votes had nothing to do with his relationship with MBNA as donors to his

01:24:58.260 campaign, just like he insists it had nothing to do with MBNA hiring Hunter twice, the first time

01:25:06.600 straight out of law school and then again from 2001 to 2005 as a, quote, consultant. When Joe Biden ran for

01:25:15.320 president in 2008, Joe paid over two million dollars in campaign cash to family members and their

01:25:22.840 businesses. Now, one point eight million of that went to Joe Slade White and company for media consulting

01:25:32.140 fees. A top of top executive at the company was Valerie Biden owns Joe Biden's sister and longtime campaign

01:25:40.900 manager. Biden's campaign also paid one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for legal work to a lobbying

01:25:47.060 and law firm in Washington, D.C., co-owned by his son, Hunter. Joe Biden's campaign spokesman insists that

01:25:54.860 Hunter didn't receive a dime of that money because another lawyer at the firm did the actual legal work

01:26:00.300 for the campaign. In 2008, a report for Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington ranked Biden

01:26:06.940 among the five senators for amount of money paid to family members over three election cycles from 2002

01:26:14.900 to 2006. He was also in the top five for payments to a family business. Now, according to the Federal

01:26:22.200 Election Commission, a campaign can hire family members and their companies if the work is legitimate

01:26:27.560 and charged at market rates. But as you will see in the show tomorrow night on Blaze TV, just because

01:26:35.180 you can doesn't mean you should. And that phrase means nothing to Joe Biden. Tomorrow.

01:26:45.480 An incredible chalkboard of two scenarios that Joe Biden and his son were involved in with two countries,

01:26:54.880 one Ukraine and the other China. They are extremely disturbing. Will anyone in the mainstream media

01:27:02.940 pick it up? Of course not. But what sent Paul Manafort, I believe, rightly to jail

01:27:12.400 is not going to send Hunter Biden or Joe Biden to jail. And in a country that we believe in justice,

01:27:22.300 we believe in fairness. If Paul Manafort went to jail, Joe Biden and his son should definitely be going

01:27:30.880 to jail. I want to show you that tomorrow. We lay it out. I ask that you would subscribe to the Blaze

01:27:36.660 now at Blaze TV dot com slash Glenn promo code G.L.E.N.N. Please sign up for the Blaze and be ready for

01:27:45.200 tomorrow's broadcast. I think we're going to do we're going to have to do an extended edition because I

01:27:51.340 and we haven't worked it out yet. We're still trying to get it into the show time, but I don't

01:27:55.220 think we can do it and do it justice because this is a really, really important, important thing.

01:28:02.600 Last last night, we we did a show on the border. And if you haven't decided to become a member of

01:28:08.840 the Blaze yet, I posted it this morning on the Glenn Beck YouTube page. You can find that just going to

01:28:16.900 Glenn Beck dot com and I would ask that you would subscribe to the page. But that was from last

01:28:24.720 night's show and that's on the border. And if you want to fix the border, you have to admit what the

01:28:30.520 problem is. And no one is talking about it. And the problem is. And no, this sounds crazy, but watch

01:28:38.860 the show because it's all right there. The problem is communists that want to overthrow the United

01:28:46.600 States of America. And the heart of the caravan is happening in Chicago, Illinois, and it's being

01:28:54.320 funded in part by George Soros. It is a very eye opening look. You will not look at the border the

01:29:02.300 same way. You can find that show for free. Please send it to all of your friends. Send it to your

01:29:08.160 Congress people. Send it to your senators. Send it to anybody you trust. Send it to the White House.

01:29:12.840 That is an important look. If you want to solve the border and save America, I think we are in the

01:29:20.520 final stretch here. And unless we wake up and stop talking about nonsense, we ain't going to make it.

01:29:26.460 Check it out at Glenn Beck dot com. I want to continue our conversation from last hour on this book by

01:29:33.500 Blake Harris, the history of the future. Stu, can you think of a story that is more

01:29:44.740 relevant than this book right now?

01:29:52.120 I mean, not only does it go through, if you missed the story, a guy who invented virtual reality. So we're in

01:29:59.780 the middle of the technology revolution, the Oculus Rift. He turns into a Facebook billionaire because

01:30:05.800 Facebook buys his company for two billion dollars. But he has to go work for Facebook.

01:30:10.680 Yep. So he goes to work for Facebook. And so that is incredibly relevant. He we have an inside view of

01:30:17.440 how Facebook actually treats not only their employees, but, you know, people who disagree with

01:30:23.120 them politically with the emails written by the guy who was who wrote what was called the best book of the

01:30:30.100 year by NPR slate, Goodreads and Publishers Weekly. Yep. Not a conservative. This is not a conservative.

01:30:37.940 This is a guy who is a great, great researcher and writer. He's given an unprecedented access to

01:30:46.940 everything, all emails, everything, because they think that he's just going to play along. Well, he doesn't play

01:30:54.180 along. He goes and he's looking for the real truth. And he finds out that in 2016, the guy who invented

01:31:01.980 Oculus, this then 23 year old kid, he in a trailer, by the way, an amazing entrepreneurial story. It's a great

01:31:10.820 entrepreneurial story. Yeah. Um, he is, uh, he is a supporter of, of Trump and not like, I mean,

01:31:18.140 not like one of the hateful, you know, evil people you see in the internet or future. He was sick to

01:31:22.860 death of the Clintons. He didn't like the Clintons. He was like, they are so corrupt. And honestly,

01:31:28.100 garden variety Trump support too. I mean, like I, he, he, he made one donation to a Trump affiliated

01:31:34.080 group, a small one, obviously anonymously. Yep. And then the other one is he intended one

01:31:39.920 Trump rally, one Trump rally where, where he was, I mean, at least known to have been at,

01:31:46.160 which is not, I mean, it's not like this guy was on TV every night on Fox news, arguing viscerally

01:31:51.500 for Donald Trump. I mean, he was just a, just a citizen. He was just a citizen who didn't like

01:31:55.860 Hillary Clinton and like Donald Trump. So he goes and, uh, uh, he makes this anonymous, uh, campaign

01:32:03.620 donation. Somebody finds out about it and they twist this into, he's the guy behind,

01:32:09.920 all of the evil memes, uh, that the Facebook Oculus guy is actually the guy that is distorting

01:32:18.240 the truth and coming up with all of these evil memes, uh, that you're reading online for Donald

01:32:24.180 Trump. You point out that it was the daily piece, I believe that started that, uh, which

01:32:27.700 said many problems with their reporting. The daily beast never gets a story, right? I mean,

01:32:32.540 I'm shocked if they, well, you know, they'll, they'll stumble into something by accident.

01:32:36.620 I'm sure someday. Yes. But they are, they have an agenda. I know this. They have an agenda

01:32:42.160 and they don't listen to the other side. They cherry pick on whatever it is they're trying to

01:32:46.900 say. But it wasn't just them. I mean, it was picked up by places like Wired, who you'd think

01:32:50.580 obviously is a technology magazine website, uh, that, you know, which probably has a left lean,

01:32:56.520 but shouldn't be insane to vilify someone from their own circles. I mean, you got to believe that

01:33:02.340 it got the guy who invented the Oculus Rift is probably a huge fan of Wired, right? Like

01:33:07.320 probably read it obsessively. And instead they make him into this horrible villain. I think

01:33:12.380 the headline was, uh, he was the, the, the worst. Okay. That was it. That was it. He was the worst.

01:33:21.340 Um, and so to, uh, to do that and then find out, so he does some Trump support, he gets fired,

01:33:28.280 but not only that, the emails are in the book apparently from Mark Zuckerberg where he actually

01:33:35.100 rewrites the statement about, uh, his Trump support and says fraudulently and that he was

01:33:43.720 voting for Gary Johnson and not Trump because they thought that was the only acceptable sort of

01:33:49.080 solution. So again, I, you know, I'm not an expert in HR matters, but I mean, it does seem to be

01:33:55.480 illegal to force a statement out of one of your employees to say he, he supports a political

01:34:00.480 candidate. He doesn't write. He, he did not support, uh, the candidate, Gary Johnson, Gary

01:34:06.380 Johnson. Uh, he did support and it is amazing. The, the, the emails are in the book. You can read

01:34:13.980 the exchanges back and forth between lucky the inventor and, and Mark Zuckerberg and what lucky

01:34:20.300 was trying to say and what Mark Zuckerberg changed it to. Then they fired him. This is,

01:34:26.240 this story has everything in it, including after the book was written, this guy, he can't get another

01:34:34.200 job. He's a liberal. He's not, he doesn't even agree with us. He's a liberal. He can't get anybody

01:34:41.680 to pay attention to him. He, all he said on the air, the journalists that he's talking to is like,

01:34:47.680 so what? It hurts Trump supporter. Who cares? I mean, that was incredible. It's incredible to hear

01:34:52.280 him say that. I mean, I don't know if people recognize how big of a deal that is, but to hear

01:34:56.160 him say is no slouch. Yeah, he's no slouch. He's a big time author. And he's also not a conservative

01:35:01.120 to say that he's talking to journalists and they are telling him the reason they don't care is because

01:35:06.020 they don't care about political discrimination when it's about Trump. That's not the kind of political

01:35:10.240 discrimination they care about is was the quote he said. I mean, that's incredible. So here is,

01:35:14.380 here's this guy. He spends an extra two years because he knows how much trouble he's in because

01:35:18.660 this story is not ending the way he thought it was going to be. He thought it was going to be a pro

01:35:23.200 Oculus and pro Facebook kind of technology thing. Instead, it takes this nasty turn because of the

01:35:30.160 elections. So he, he is, his book is supposed to come out in 2016. It's Dow just coming out and it's

01:35:38.780 coming out and no one is reporting on it. It's, it's the history of the future. It is the history

01:35:45.840 of Oculus and what happened. It has all of the main Silicon Valley players in it. It is a fascinating

01:35:52.960 story. It is currently 32,336 on the bestseller list on Amazon and no one is covering it.

01:36:02.500 I urge you to buy this book. Even if you're not going to read it, I urge you to buy this book.

01:36:09.780 It is a good read, but I urge you to buy it just because we have to reward the people.

01:36:16.520 Otherwise, where is this guy going to go? He said, I don't know. My phone's dead. Nobody's hiring me.

01:36:21.860 Nobody's, I mean, I'm done. Yeah, I'm done. Where is he going to go? And if we don't tell the story,

01:36:27.940 if we don't help him get this story out, he's not a conservative. If we don't rally around the

01:36:35.020 people who are being honest and say, look, I found the truth and it wasn't what I expected.

01:36:39.900 We have no chance of winning. We must embrace the people who embrace the truth, no matter where the

01:36:47.120 chips lie. The best thing you can do for the media is not complain about it today, but hold this guy up.

01:36:55.360 Blake Harris, the name of the book is History of the Future. Let's see if we can move the needle and

01:37:02.960 get him out of the 32,000 range on Amazon and get him into at least the top 100 would be nice.

01:37:14.100 Please buy the book and then share it with your friends. It's an amazing story.

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01:38:56.740 Gosh, do I am tired today. Oh, we have I mean, we have just been this has been a crazy week

01:39:03.200 for us. Yeah. Too many things going on at once. I mean, big things because I mean, honestly,

01:39:07.160 the Blake Harris interview, I think would be really interesting. I mean, the story just as

01:39:11.700 an entrepreneurial story is really interesting. The fact that it develops into this guy who gets

01:39:15.840 bought out for two billion dollars and then fired because he went to a Trump rally. How this story

01:39:20.540 is not everywhere at the very least on conservative media. I mean, I have no idea. This guy should be

01:39:26.440 everywhere. Everywhere. I mean, you know, everywhere. It's a big story because, you know, and the media

01:39:29.980 doesn't love Facebook. You know, they agree on a lot of things, but they don't know. They don't love

01:39:34.480 Facebook. I mean, there's a dog pile. That's that's the another one of the points. There's a

01:39:38.060 dog pile on on Facebook right now and they won't use this. This is damning information. Yeah,

01:39:44.800 this is illegal for Mark Zuckerberg to do. That's yeah. And at the same time, he's saying,

01:39:51.860 hey, by the way, I would like more government regulation. I'm telling you, these tech companies,

01:39:57.000 Google, Facebook and Apple, they are all going to be in bed with the federal government and ask

01:40:06.420 Jeeves. I mean, you know, Jeeves is in bed. He is all over that. The guy basically is a butler at

01:40:12.720 every, you know, every mansion. That's why you can trust him. Well, I don't know. He's involved with

01:40:17.440 all those people. But Jeeves is I think he's a criminal. I will get into that later, too. That's

01:40:21.720 another thing that's breaking. But but aside from all of that stuff, you have last night's program

01:40:27.360 on TV where you expose the networks behind what's happening at the border. Also, this is just that

01:40:34.880 story. Just that story changes the border. It really does. I mean, it's like it's honestly this

01:40:40.860 week. It's almost like we are doing the work of 60 minutes. This is what 60. Remember when you used

01:40:46.220 to watch 60 minutes, you'd be like, holy cow, what? Yeah, what? And it mattered. The stuff we

01:40:52.660 with the stuff we put together yesterday, all documented, you know, it's all there. It's all

01:40:58.780 public information. It's all there. We can show you what the goal is of these caravans and who's

01:41:04.600 behind it, who's paying for it, where they came from. It's amazing. You'll find that for free today.

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01:41:18.760 are on this and we're putting it all together and doing a chalkboard on it tomorrow. This is on Joe

01:41:23.920 Biden, his dealings in Ukraine and China specifically, but a lot of corruption stuff

01:41:29.240 there, which I mean, some of that stuff very likely could be criminal as well. And during the break,

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01:43:35.340 During the State of the Union, Donald Trump introduced a guy named Matthew Charles. He

01:43:39.980 was one of the first people released under the First Step Act, and he has an amazing story.

01:43:44.560 He was arrested for selling crack cocaine, and he spent 21 years in prison on a 35-year prison

01:43:51.780 sentence. He was released in 2016. He walks out of prison with nothing, but he changes his life,

01:44:00.320 and he had never had any infractions, any write-ups at all in prison. He was a model citizen.

01:44:06.040 He had turned his life over to Christ. He goes out, and he starts immediately getting involved in his

01:44:11.720 community, in his church. Then he finds out, in May of 2018, two years later, that was a mistake.

01:44:21.400 You have to go back and serve the remaining decade back in prison. He doesn't throw a fit.

01:44:29.160 He goes back. He goes back. He was one of the first released on the new criminal justice reform,

01:44:37.820 and we're thrilled to have him. Matthew, welcome to the program. How are you, sir?

01:44:45.720 Is Matthew there?

01:44:47.360 Yes, I am.

01:44:48.120 Hi. How are you, sir?

01:44:49.780 How are you doing, sir? I'm doing okay.

01:44:51.780 I'm great. It is great to talk to you. I remember when they sent you back, and I read that story,

01:44:59.800 and I thought, how is this happening? First of all, the guy's turned into a model citizen,

01:45:04.700 and how is he dealing with that? When you heard you had to go back and serve 10 years,

01:45:12.060 what was that like?

01:45:14.980 I was disappointed, a little bit discouraged, because at the time, I had already served

01:45:21.100 nearly 22 years and had been out for two years, and because the government had appealed it and

01:45:26.740 successfully won, I was being sent back. And the fact that they couldn't take into account

01:45:31.760 any rehabilitation that had taken place within me during that period caused me to be very disappointed

01:45:38.820 and discouraged.

01:45:39.400 Now, why couldn't they take into account anything that you had done and anything that you had become?

01:45:45.920 Because at the time, there was no actually incentives for rehabilitation. It was just about

01:45:51.880 incapacitation, where you take a person out of society for a particular period of time, and then

01:45:57.540 when that time is up, whether they are changed or not, you release them. And because I was released,

01:46:02.960 based on the changes made to the 2010 sentencing guidelines, they had not been made retroactive

01:46:08.440 to me, so therefore, I was still required to serve 85% of my sentence.

01:46:13.800 Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. So, Matthew, you got back into prison, and how long were you in prison

01:46:21.020 before this prison justice reform happened? It took seven months. I went back May 14th and was released

01:46:29.720 January 3rd. And how did you find out about, you know, when you were released? Where were you? What

01:46:35.720 happened? I was in Kentucky at a holding facility waiting to go back to federal prison to serve that

01:46:42.980 remaining 10 years. And during the time that I was rearrested, I was being held in Kentucky. And at the

01:46:50.280 time, the inmates there were speaking about the First Step Act, and they were talking about the

01:46:56.580 different incentives that it had, as well as the discretion that the judges had in their own

01:47:01.420 courtrooms to go below the mandatory minimums. But I didn't know that it was going to actually

01:47:06.240 affect me until late November, early December, when I seen that one of the provisions was that it

01:47:13.800 made retroactive the changes to the 2010 Sentencing Guideline.

01:47:18.140 And so did you apply for it? Did somebody else apply?

01:47:23.460 The Public Defender's Office in Nashville, Tennessee, Mr. Michael Holley and Ms. Mariah Wooten,

01:47:28.380 because they were already appealing my reincarceration, they had already had petitions

01:47:35.000 before the court. So once President Donald Trump signed it, December the 21st, and it became

01:47:41.720 applicable after his signature, they just went on to file the motion to the district court,

01:47:46.240 since they were already doing filings on my behalf, asking them to release me based on the First Step Act.

01:47:53.060 So Matthew, I'd like to hear you talk about the... I was sitting in the chamber during the State of

01:48:02.680 the Union. First of all, how did you get there? Did the president call you? How did you end up at

01:48:08.820 the State of the Union? It would have been nice to get a call director from the president, but I had

01:48:14.100 actually been invited by his staff via email. I was invited twice. I was invited to the first one,

01:48:21.000 but it didn't take place because there was a government shutdown. And the second time,

01:48:25.060 they re-invited me. And once I went there, I was able to go to the White House and meet him prior to

01:48:31.820 going over to the State of the Union at Congress. So it was an experience, but I had actually got the

01:48:39.140 invite from his staff on his wife, Melania Trump's behalf. So now you are, you're sitting there. The

01:48:47.240 president speaks about you. We all stand up and give you a standing ovation. What was that moment like

01:48:56.760 to a guy who had spent 21 years in prison? Nobody was thinking of. You are, you're released,

01:49:06.200 then you're pulled back and the system is just grinding you down. What was that moment like to

01:49:12.500 have the president tell your story? Have you stand up and every, you know, the, the members of Congress

01:49:21.360 and the Senate and, and the, and the White House, the justices, everybody standing up, giving you a round

01:49:29.340 of applause?

01:49:31.560 It was a moment that would never be forgotten by me. It was like, I was in awe. The only thing,

01:49:37.520 as you was expressing those words, the picture that came to my mind was like a cartoon character where

01:49:42.920 the roof of the head of the character just takes off and shoots toward the sky because it was like

01:49:48.600 unbelievable. So for me, it just felt like that. It was pleasantly overwhelming. I was like, wow,

01:49:54.980 just completely amazed. Never thought in a million years that I would be at the state of the union,

01:50:00.320 let alone having president Trump to actually speak about that and state welcome home to me.

01:50:06.060 I will, I will tell you that what it said to me is I was, I was watching you, um, uh, stand there in,

01:50:14.600 in the same room with you. As I'm watching that, I thought this is what the American justice system

01:50:22.460 should be. The guy, you know, committed a crime. He, uh, not only paid for it, but he went and he was

01:50:31.680 reformed and he found redemption and he found his way and he's now welcome back into society with open

01:50:41.200 arms, uh, with, uh, with, with, with the president of the United States saying, welcome back, welcome back

01:50:47.560 home. Yes, sir. Tell me about the, uh, the pastor, tell me about your conversion, uh, from, you know, guy

01:50:57.380 that belonged in prison to guy that didn't belong in prison. Uh, when it took place was I got arrested

01:51:04.640 in December of 1995 for, uh, selling crack cocaine. And once I was arrested and taken to the

01:51:12.620 county jail, I was just there awaiting pretrial and sentencing. But there was a guy there named

01:51:18.880 Jesus Duran who actually had got his sentence and was being transported out. So he had left me

01:51:25.300 some hygiene items, you know, soap, deodorant, uh, toothpaste. And he also left me a Bible and it

01:51:31.980 was a Brown Gideon's King James Bible. So I didn't even know he had it because we never spoke about

01:51:37.160 religion or anything of that nature. So I accepted the gifts that he gave me and he left, but I

01:51:42.440 started reading the Bible and through reading the Bible, it started coming, I guess, to reality and

01:51:48.600 awakened my spiritual, uh, side of me. And I started attending Bible study, uh, classes at the

01:51:54.160 county jail and the preacher would come in and do the Bible study. And they often left tracks on how to

01:52:00.200 receive salvation. So I took one of the tracks and I continued to read that Bible on my own

01:52:04.820 time, because, you know, in the county jail, you got a lot of time on your hands. So therefore,

01:52:08.820 uh, that led me to, uh, stating the words that were on the track, then going to the Bible study,

01:52:15.240 uh, classes and openly profess my faith before them as well. And that decision that I made in

01:52:22.600 February of 1996, I want to say two months after I was arrested and placed in the county jail,

01:52:28.020 changed my life forever. But everything that you still had, you still had 21 years before you

01:52:34.940 would see the light of day. And when you get out, it's hard for somebody like you to get a

01:52:40.780 job and to acclimate. How did you stay the path? Uh, it was because of my faith in Christ. Once I made

01:52:48.540 that decision to surrender my life and heart over to the Lord Jesus Christ, I had, I would say all of

01:52:54.240 God's help as all of God's children knew. So therefore with God's help, I was able to make the

01:53:00.280 right decisions. I was able to, uh, be guided and protected by God during that time of my

01:53:06.460 incarceration. Because at that time, I didn't know I was going to serve 21 or 22 years. I was expected

01:53:11.860 to serve 31 or 32 years because I had a 35 year sentence.

01:53:15.620 Matthew, we've, you know, this is such an amazing, uh, story and, you know, in the middle of kind of

01:53:22.520 this, you know, somewhat divisive time that we're in and it's hard to find the path forward. Glenn,

01:53:28.400 you've been talking about this forever. There's only really one solution to this.

01:53:32.700 Yeah. I mean, you, you look at the world, what it was in 1995. It's a different America,

01:53:37.780 isn't it, Matthew?

01:53:39.620 Oh, yes, it is very much so.

01:53:41.240 And we've been looking for solutions. We keep going back and forth. And the only thing I can

01:53:46.920 think of is that we've got to turn back to God. And it seems so trite. It seems so simple. It's

01:53:54.100 so simple. People will dismiss it, but it's the only answer that will save us because we, we have to

01:54:00.560 return to the, the principles of just be decent to each other. Just be good to each other. Just let's

01:54:09.240 not lie. Let's not cheat. Let's not steal.

01:54:14.020 And that's correct because through, like I said, through the Bible, through being a Christian

01:54:19.540 and the experience itself, it shows us how to love one another as well as respect one another.

01:54:24.740 And as you stated, uh, there is a difference aside than 1995. There's a lot of divisiveness and

01:54:30.580 things of that nature. So I would say that the only thing that really going to bring true harmony

01:54:36.640 and peace is once everyone or someone surrenders themselves over to the Lord.

01:54:42.560 Matthew, you were the beneficiary of a very rare bipartisan moment, uh, as you were able to get out

01:54:47.180 because of what, uh, President Trump and Jared Kushner in particular fought very hard for as long as

01:54:52.080 Van Jones. I mean, it was, it's really an amazing story. Um, what do you think the next step? Is there

01:54:57.080 more that needs to be done in this area of criminal justice reform?

01:54:59.860 Oh, yes, sir. There's a lot more that needs to be done because there are still

01:55:04.120 those that are incarcerated that the first step act won't even affect because they've already done

01:55:09.700 served the same amount of time I have or a little bit less than that, but they still have the

01:55:14.180 extensive sentence that they receive under the harsher penal system. Whereas the sentence or the

01:55:20.120 punishment is not equivalent or in proportion to the crime they actually committed. So there's the

01:55:25.320 things that we need to do to be able to reach forth and help those people who have also changed and

01:55:30.540 want a second chance. And then also those that are now coming into, uh, getting in trouble and going

01:55:36.560 through the court system and in the prison, we need to see what type of treatments are, uh,

01:55:42.380 diversion to incarceration. Maybe they may have a mental illness or a drug addiction where they

01:55:47.260 need treatment and, uh, you know, medicine for, as opposed to just incarcerating them.

01:55:52.460 What do you think the percentage is of people that are in the prison system that are just

01:55:57.420 mentally unwell? They're just, this is, this is a mental illness.

01:56:02.480 I would say anywhere from 30 to 40% of those because at the time, yeah. And it's sad too to see

01:56:09.420 them there because it's like they're in a completely different world, but yet they're placed in the

01:56:15.240 same, sometimes violent atmosphere, like the violent inmates are, or the regular inmates are.

01:56:21.740 And then because they have those mental problems, uh, they really are not able to cope and I either

01:56:28.880 get, they either get hurt or hurt somebody. And at the time there was no separate place to put

01:56:34.660 these people. They committed a crime. They need to pay for the crime they committed. So the only thing

01:56:40.400 that was available at the time was giving them a sentence and putting them in prison with everybody

01:56:44.460 else. Wow. Wow. Matthew, thank you so much. God bless you. And, uh, I'm glad you're out. And, um,

01:56:52.140 as the president said, welcome home. Okay. Thank you. And I appreciate it. And, uh, God bless you as well.

01:56:57.920 God bless you, Matthew Charles.

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The Glenn Beck Program - April 10, 2019

System Overwhelmed？｜ Guests： Blake J. Harris & Matthew Charles ｜ 4⧸10⧸19

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