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00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.760 It was Tuesday night in May.

00:00:11.840 Susanna Maria Feldman, she went out with her friends.

00:00:15.440 They were a little bit rowdy, but generally a good group of kids.

00:00:19.800 But Susanna didn't come home that night because she had been raped, strangled, and buried in the dead of night.

00:00:27.480 Her body was dumped into a ditch leading to a railroad track near the refugee camp in her hometown of Wiesbaden.

00:00:36.880 That's in Germany.

00:00:39.100 Susanna adored her five-year-old sister, cherished her family.

00:00:43.580 She was 14.

00:00:46.260 They found her body two weeks later.

00:00:49.000 By then, Ali Bashar, the 20-year-old man who had raped and strangled Susanna, fled Germany, along with his parents and five siblings, all using fake names.

00:01:02.840 They went back to their home in Iraq.

00:01:05.280 Ali Bashar had previously been accused of robbery, assault on a female police officer.

00:01:10.540 He had also been suspected in the rape of an 11-year-old girl who lived in the same refugee station as he did.

00:01:18.820 He was a refugee, yes.

00:01:20.580 Did I point that out?

00:01:23.120 He arrived in the country October 2015 as part of the wave of puppy-eyed refugees that flooded Europe, 1.00

00:01:30.360 who many European countries so proudly gave in and gave shelter to refugees.

00:01:37.080 Susanna was of Jewish-German heritage.

00:01:44.440 The Central Council of Jews in Germany said in a statement,

00:01:49.660 A young life has been put in a cruel way.

00:01:53.940 Our deep compassion applies to the relatives and the friends.

00:01:57.300 Susanna was a member of the Jewish community.

00:02:00.420 At present, much of the background is still unclear.

00:02:03.540 We expect the law enforcement authorities to provide rapid and comprehensive information,

00:02:09.300 as well as tough consequences for the perpetrators.

00:02:13.740 I tell you this story today because it's not just about Susanna.

00:02:17.320 She's not alone, not by far.

00:02:20.020 She is just one of a growing number of young women and young girls who are being sexually violated,

00:02:26.460 abused, and in imaginable nightmares, murdered.

00:02:36.620 Then they're tossed into a ditch, left in trash bins.

00:02:45.200 There is no respect for life.

00:02:47.120 Europe, this is what so many people were afraid of.

00:02:53.060 This is what the so-called naysayers were afraid of.

00:02:57.500 The governments are still not responding.

00:03:03.340 The world, generally speaking, is not racist.

00:03:08.300 There are racists.

00:03:09.900 There are racist policies.

00:03:11.680 But generally speaking, I think, at least in America, we are not racist.

00:03:19.020 We are observant.

00:03:26.000 Multiculturalism is the problem. 1.00

00:03:28.960 If you come to our country, 1.00

00:03:31.640 come to our country knowing what we offer and what we do.

00:03:36.660 If you want to bring your country, your traditions,

00:03:41.260 and they involve killing people,

00:03:44.520 raping people,

00:03:45.720 seeing others as insects, infidels, 0.99

00:03:50.300 vermin, whatever it is,

00:03:53.820 you're not welcome here.

00:03:57.240 And it's about time our government,

00:03:59.820 all around the world,

00:04:02.800 starts to recognize that there is a problem

00:04:06.480 and the good people that really are refugees

00:04:11.060 are going to suffer the consequences

00:04:13.540 because of their inability and unwillingness to act.

00:04:19.600 Because the worst part of this story is,

00:04:22.360 this is just the beginning.

00:04:24.580 There is an unbelievable story

00:04:36.260 that just does not make any sense to me at all

00:04:41.280 other than this is what happens

00:04:43.860 when a government just starts passing laws

00:04:47.540 and is not using their brain at all.

00:04:52.560 What is the point of prison?

00:04:55.980 The point of the prison is to punish people for their crimes,

00:05:00.180 but rehabilitate them

00:05:02.080 so when they come out of prison,

00:05:04.520 they are good citizens.

00:05:07.320 Right?

00:05:08.020 Isn't that the point?

00:05:10.940 There is a case now of Matthew Charles.

00:05:15.540 It is absolutely unbelievable.

00:05:21.040 In the 90s, he was nabbed for selling crack.

00:05:26.300 He spent 21 years in prison.

00:05:31.540 He got out of prison on parole.

00:05:34.320 He has completely changed his life.

00:05:37.900 His community loves him.

00:05:39.660 He goes to church all the time.

00:05:41.240 He's got a job.

00:05:42.200 He volunteers in, I think, soup kitchens.

00:05:45.800 This guy is a model citizen.

00:05:50.220 Well, the state decided they made a mistake

00:05:52.820 because you've got to serve until 2027.

00:05:56.260 It's on the books here.

00:05:57.920 You've got to serve it.

00:05:59.340 Until 2027.

00:06:00.820 So they took a guy who had been out on parole

00:06:05.160 for how many years, Stu?

00:06:06.940 Two?

00:06:07.380 Three?

00:06:08.120 I don't even know.

00:06:10.040 I think two years.

00:06:11.780 And is a model citizen.

00:06:15.460 He's going back to prison until 2027.

00:06:19.120 This has got to stop.

00:06:22.380 This is wrong.

00:06:24.040 And there's something we can do about it.

00:06:25.600 Now, he has an attorney, and Charles' attorney is on with us now, Sean Hopwood.

00:06:33.220 Hello, Sean.

00:06:33.760 How are you?

00:06:35.460 I'm great.

00:06:36.160 Thanks for having me, Glenn.

00:06:37.380 Sure.

00:06:37.940 So tell me what we don't know about Matthew.

00:06:41.480 Well, I think one of the unusual things about Matthew's case is that, one,

00:06:49.720 he got an extremely long sentence for a drug crime.

00:06:53.420 35 years, which in the federal system, you have to serve 85% of that.

00:06:58.260 So best case scenario, he's got to do 30, 31 years.

00:07:01.600 And I think what's remarkable about his case is he's done 21 years in the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

00:07:09.880 Not only did there's no indication he had any acts of violence or committed any other crime in prison,

00:07:16.020 he didn't get a single minor disciplinary report.

00:07:20.660 How rare is that, Matthew?

00:07:23.500 I have never seen it.

00:07:24.760 And to put it in context, I don't know if your listeners know my story,

00:07:29.020 but I served 11 years in federal prison myself, and I'm often held up as the model of rehabilitation.

00:07:35.280 And I got two incident reports in 11 years, half of what Matthew served.

00:07:39.880 Wow.

00:07:40.700 So Matthew is quite the amazing man.

00:07:43.640 And then he gets out and just makes a community with his church in Nashville and volunteers.

00:07:49.520 You know, the first two years out of prison after serving a long sentence is very precarious for people.

00:07:55.820 They're trying to get some stability and get their life back on track.

00:08:00.500 And Matthew, despite all of that, went and served at a soup kitchen every Saturday for the homeless.

00:08:07.720 And what's interesting is the Department of Justice had a chance.

00:08:11.140 The judge asked them, will you dismiss a charge and let this man go free rather than re-locking him up for 10 more years?

00:08:18.300 And the Department of Justice said no.

00:08:21.980 Why?

00:08:24.360 Well, what they would say is they're just following the rule of law.

00:08:29.320 But that doesn't make any sense because federal prosecutors decide what to charge and what not to charge every day in federal court across the country.

00:08:38.940 There are many times people break federal law and prosecutors never charge it.

00:08:43.540 A lot.

00:08:44.920 A lot.

00:08:45.460 Well, you know, the U.S. Congress does not value your liberty or anyone else in this country because what most Americans don't know is that the Congress has found that there are 5,000 federal criminal laws, 5,000 things that are so serious that the Congress thinks that you could potentially go to jail or prison for.

00:09:06.540 So, first of all, is Matthew, is he back in prison yet?

00:09:16.320 He is in county jail in Kentucky awaiting transfer to another prison.

00:09:21.320 But we are hopeful that the president, President Trump, will grant him clemency and return him back home to the community that desperately wants him back.

00:09:32.100 I read an article about his going away party, and he was so gracious.

00:09:40.220 And, I mean, I wouldn't be.

00:09:43.420 I wouldn't be.

00:09:44.580 What was his attitude as he went on?

00:09:48.480 You know, if it was me, I would be very bitter and angry.

00:09:51.880 But that's not Matthew's character.

00:09:55.160 Matthew kind of left the bitter, angry guy behind in prison many, many years ago.

00:09:59.460 So, he has been, you know, he's sad and devastated because he finally got his life back on track only to have it all ripped away from him.

00:10:08.720 But I tell you, he is also a very humble man, and he has been just overwhelmed with the number of people who, you know, his change.org petition is close to 100,000 signatures.

00:10:21.200 We did a lot of interviews last week, including NBC Nightly News, and he's just been overwhelmed at the number of people from all political stripes who are supporting him and his quest for clemency.

00:10:34.080 By the way, that petition is posted at glenbeck.com if you want to go sign it.

00:10:38.680 What's the goal for this, Sean?

00:10:40.220 Well, the goal is to just get enough public support that the president decides this is worth doing.

00:10:49.720 And the White House is aware of Matthew's case.

00:10:52.020 I have yet to run into anyone who thinks that it was a smart or wise idea to send him back to prison for 10 years.

00:11:01.500 So, I'm hopeful that something will happen and that the president will sign a clemency petition and Matthew can go back home to his girlfriend and his church community.

00:11:11.680 In a theoretical world, right, if we had an Elysium or The Matrix where we could test these things, and you had criminals who did bad things, and you could somehow test the fact that maybe they could return and you could prove it, you could release people all the time.

00:11:30.720 The issue is, of course, that would be incredibly risky to release them into the actual population if you weren't sure.

00:11:37.220 Here's a case in which we essentially got the opportunity to test.

00:11:40.700 We were able to release this guy to see if he could blend into community, to see if his life had been turned around.

00:11:47.460 He's a success story.

00:11:48.520 It's a success story.

00:11:49.780 It was proven that he could.

00:11:51.880 And yet, on what seems to be a ridiculous technicality, they're throwing him back into prison.

00:11:57.620 I mean, it's unthinkable.

00:12:01.120 There are thousands of Matthew Charleses in federal prison that just haven't had the opportunity he has to get out.

00:12:08.220 The great irony about the American criminal justice system is, one, we think that we are the land of the free, but on the other hand, America incarcerates its citizens at a greater rate than almost any other country on the planet.

00:12:23.120 And, two, the great irony of it is, the longer someone spends in corrections, the less likely they generally are to come out and live law-abiding, successful lives.

00:12:33.260 Prison doesn't make people better.

00:12:35.180 Right.

00:12:35.400 And you don't – I can't imagine going to prison for 20 years, 21 years here, and being able to even function on the outside.

00:12:46.360 It was a different world that he lived in in the 1990s, completely different.

00:12:52.560 When I was released in 2008, I had never been on the Internet, never seen an iPad, an iPhone, or an iPod.

00:13:00.160 One of the things I quickly realized when I went to pick up the paper and look at the classified ad section for jobs was no one advertises jobs in the classified section.

00:13:10.560 And Matthew had to overcome all those hurdles, too, just the stress of so much change when you've been incarcerated that long.

00:13:18.520 And yet he was able to overcome all of that and show that he's a change person, which just – you know, in a perfect world, the Department of Justice would have recognized his rehabilitation and just cut him loose.

00:13:33.340 Sean, do you have time to stay with us for a little bit longer?

00:13:36.140 I do.

00:13:36.520 Okay, if you stay on with us, because I've got a few – this is a fascinating story and should be more than fascinating to people.

00:13:45.720 We need to take action on this.

00:13:47.380 You can go to glennbeck.com and sign the petition and get the president's attention, and we've got to correct this.

00:13:57.080 There's something good happening in America right now, and that is we're starting to come together on one thing, and that is prison reform.

00:14:04.880 It doesn't work.

00:14:07.040 Let's talk about prison reform.

00:14:09.220 How do we do this, and how do we get the people out of prison that shouldn't be there anymore?

00:14:15.600 Sean Hopwood, he is the attorney for Matthew Charles.

00:14:20.740 He's also an associate professor of Georgetown Law.

00:14:24.360 We can continue our conversation here in just a second.

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00:15:05.480 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:15:11.160 Sean Hopwood, he is the lawyer representing Matthew Charles.

00:15:15.380 An incredible story.

00:15:16.840 He's an associate professor of Georgetown Law.

00:15:20.280 Sean, we have about three and a half minutes.

00:15:22.220 Can you just, can you tell me your story a little bit?

00:15:24.860 Yeah, so my story kind of is not too dissimilar for Matthew Charles.

00:15:32.940 In 1997 and 1998, as a 21, 22-year-old, I robbed five banks.

00:15:40.380 Wow.

00:15:40.740 12 years and three months in federal prison and got to prison and learned the law and had two briefs that I prepared for other guys and friends of mine in prison that were granted by the United States Supreme Court.

00:15:56.100 And I started winning cases in federal court all over, even though I had never been to law school and hadn't even taken freshman English or, and then didn't have an undergraduate degree either.

00:16:07.280 That is unbelievable.

00:16:10.340 This is just like Suits.

00:16:11.760 It's my favorite show.

00:16:12.660 This is exactly what happened in Suits.

00:16:14.920 Oh my gosh, I can't believe that's happened.

00:16:16.700 So you get a Gates Foundation scholarship when you leave and you go to the University of Washington and now you're a professor at George Washington Law?

00:16:25.600 I got out in 2009.

00:16:30.140 I finished my bachelor's degree.

00:16:32.480 I went to the University of Washington up in Seattle School of Law.

00:16:36.180 My first job out of law school was clerking for Judge Janice Rogers Brown, a very conservative judge on the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. 0.63

00:16:49.300 And then I came to Georgetown as a teaching fellow for two years, and I went on the market to be a law professor, and Georgetown kept me.

00:16:57.040 Unbelievable.

00:16:57.780 Unbelievable.

00:16:58.380 I have just the most amazing job where I get to help people every day.

00:17:01.980 So, Sean, the odds that if the president doesn't act that Matthew's going to get out of prison?

00:17:13.020 Well, he'll get out, but he'll have to do nine or ten years.

00:17:16.560 But I'm trying not to think about that because I really think the president who, you know, I was in the White House about a month ago

00:17:25.180 when the president talked about the need to reform our prisons and that it doesn't serve anyone well for people to go to prison and come out worse off.

00:17:34.780 Correct.

00:17:35.200 Rather than better.

00:17:36.140 Correct.

00:17:36.400 And he talked about the need for America to be the land of second chances and even third chances.

00:17:42.280 And, you know, knowing he said that and believed that and knowing that the White House is also working on a prison reform bill,

00:17:48.960 I've been working with them for months on that.

00:17:51.940 I think there's a good likelihood that the president will see the injustice for Matthew.

00:17:56.680 Sean, that is fantastic news.

00:18:00.000 We will continue to follow this case.

00:18:02.800 Thank you so much for the work that you're doing.

00:18:05.060 Tell Matthew to keep his chin up.

00:18:07.040 There are people from all walks of life that are behind him.

00:18:11.600 We urge you to go to glennbeck.com.

00:18:14.940 It's posted right there on the front page where you can go.

00:18:18.100 You'll click.

00:18:18.680 It'll take you right to the petition.

00:18:21.000 You can sign the petition there and help Matthew Charles.

00:18:26.620 Let's right this wrong.

00:18:29.220 It's even later.

00:18:29.660 Thanks for talking about Matthew.

00:18:32.100 Matthew's case.

00:18:33.160 And I'm just hopeful that he's going to get to go home.

00:18:36.940 Me too.

00:18:37.400 Thanks, Sean.

00:18:37.840 Thanks, Sean.

00:18:38.260 Appreciate it.

00:18:38.760 God bless.

00:18:39.320 Glenbeck.com is where you can find the petition.

00:18:40.900 There's really been support across the aisle.

00:18:43.360 Both sides agree that this is a miscarriage of justice.

00:18:46.440 This is something we can unite on.

00:18:48.300 And I think Trump will do this eventually.

00:18:50.040 I do too.

00:18:50.480 We just need to get it in front of him.

00:18:51.720 Yes.

00:18:52.160 So please go sign the petition.

00:18:55.140 It's that White House petition.

00:18:57.160 You can do it now at glennbeck.com.

00:19:00.000 Tell a friend.

00:19:04.380 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:19:07.580 So let me give you a fact that I want you to really remember and spread this far and wide.

00:19:14.840 New figures have come out.

00:19:20.460 You know, we are the worst as a nation.

00:19:22.640 We're horrible at everything, right?

00:19:24.360 Well, according to the GivingUSA Foundation's annual report on philanthropy.

00:19:32.040 I love this story.

00:19:33.620 We have just set a record high for charitable giving in the last 12 months.

00:19:39.500 Yeah.

00:19:39.760 What do we give?

00:19:40.320 Like $40?

00:19:42.700 Stingy bastards we have in this country.

00:19:44.240 Well, we...

00:19:44.900 $30.

00:19:45.980 By the way, this does not include any government giving at all.

00:19:49.200 Could I?

00:19:49.800 May I?

00:19:50.460 No, I'm just trying to help.

00:19:51.240 I'm just trying to help.

00:19:51.880 Well, you're not really helping.

00:19:52.740 I'm a help.

00:19:53.040 No, you're not helping.

00:19:54.160 So here's what I do.

00:19:55.120 I help.

00:19:55.920 So America gave $410 billion last year.

00:20:05.720 $410 billion.

00:20:08.400 It has never been that high.

00:20:11.480 In fact, we eclipse the world in total dollars given from our own wallet.

00:20:17.240 And the vast majority, $287 billion, was given by people and not corporations or foundations,

00:20:26.860 but by average people.

00:20:29.260 Now, if you happen to be traveling internationally and someone says, well, you know, your country

00:20:37.360 stings on ice, you'd say, well, you know, without the ice, you stink.

00:20:41.980 But that's a different story.

00:20:44.620 How much money do you, France, give as a country?

00:20:51.980 Because we're not just charitable in the U.S.

00:20:55.040 We also provide the most foreign aid by far, and no one comes close to us.

00:21:02.000 So the United States Department requested $51 billion last year to give to foreign aid.

00:21:10.000 Now, Americans gave over $400 billion, but the government gave, took money from us and gave an additional $51 billion.

00:21:22.280 Just for some perspective, that's $30 billion more than Germany.

00:21:30.680 That is $30 million more than the U.K., $40 billion more than France, and $45 billion more than Canada.

00:21:42.280 No country in the history of the world has ever been this charitable.

00:21:47.960 That is truly American exceptionalism, and that comes from our Judeo-Christian upbringing.

00:21:58.620 I'm going to say it.

00:21:59.740 I'm going to say it.

00:22:00.720 How dare you?

00:22:01.440 I'm going to say it.

00:22:02.700 Don't.

00:22:03.380 You're a bad person.

00:22:04.620 Don't.

00:22:06.120 Not only that, but the private giving, as a percentage of GDP, because everybody else will say, well, you got 300 million people.

00:22:13.940 Of course, you gave more.

00:22:14.660 As a percentage of GDP, we gave double the second-place country.

00:22:20.500 Wow.

00:22:20.940 Doubled the second-place country.

00:22:23.740 And, I mean, it's triple or quadruple places like Germany and, you know, crappy France. 0.65

00:22:29.940 Yeah, it's unbelievable.

00:22:31.800 Is that the new name?

00:22:32.680 Yeah, it's called crappy France.

00:22:33.880 Wow.

00:22:34.440 Yeah.

00:22:34.860 They officially, because they thought, well, yeah, I mean, it's, why deny reality?

00:22:38.900 My country's crappy France.

00:22:41.220 It works.

00:22:41.760 It works.

00:22:42.280 Okay, that's good.

00:22:43.020 That is amazing.

00:22:44.660 And that's what a cultural thing, right?

00:22:46.180 It's because of our upbringing of a couple of things.

00:22:50.240 One, Benjamin Franklin, what is the American religion?

00:22:54.260 It's not Catholic, Protestant, or anything else.

00:22:56.380 The American religion is there is a God.

00:22:59.860 We should serve him.

00:23:01.600 And the best way to serve him is to serve our fellow man.

00:23:04.020 That's what, that's the stock of this nation.

00:23:08.120 So we've always done that.

00:23:09.980 Plus, we have always looked to ourselves to fix problems.

00:23:15.640 We don't stand around like everybody else does.

00:23:17.920 Why doesn't the country do anything about that?

00:23:20.700 We do it.

00:23:22.160 We do it.

00:23:23.100 And the bigger our government becomes, the more socialized our government becomes, the

00:23:29.660 less we will do for ourselves.

00:23:32.780 That's what's happening.

00:23:34.360 And the world will weep when the lights go out on America.

00:23:40.640 They will weep.

00:23:41.740 They will have no idea the good that we have done.

00:23:45.400 There's so many new developments as well that are, that are really positive here in the

00:23:49.380 United States.

00:23:49.920 I think we're going in the right direction.

00:23:51.100 Thank you for pointing that out, Stu, because the University of California at Santa Barbara,

00:23:56.580 UCSB, hosts a website that's controlled by the sociology department.

00:24:03.400 It encourages parents, finally, somebody's saying.

00:24:07.180 Finally.

00:24:08.080 It encourages parents to allow their young children to participate in sexual play.

00:24:12.880 Wait, you mean you're completely normal, perfectly healthy.

00:24:16.760 Hold it.

00:24:17.160 You mean your college students?

00:24:19.300 No, no, no.

00:24:20.120 This is, they actually say that sexual play is most common between the ages of four and

00:24:29.640 seven.

00:24:31.240 And it's, quote, completely normal, generally harmless, and encourages, they're encouraging

00:24:38.680 parents to allow these behaviors.

00:24:40.680 They try to be positive when you see this happen.

00:24:42.660 If your seven-year-old is playing with a four-year-old, is that, I mean, that's perfect. 0.95

00:24:49.280 Perfectly normal.

00:24:50.260 What do they mean?

00:24:51.440 Generally harmless.

00:24:51.940 What do they mean generally harmless?

00:24:54.760 Yeah.

00:24:55.100 You know what?

00:24:55.760 They don't accept that with guns, do they?

00:24:58.620 No, they do not.

00:24:59.940 Over 300 million guns.

00:25:02.640 How many are used in crime?

00:25:04.300 What?

00:25:04.660 They are generally harmless.

00:25:07.500 Harmless.

00:25:07.940 There's a section on the website that reads, children might display affection to their friends

00:25:15.820 by hugging and kissing or touching each other's genitals, which is perfectly normal. 0.99

00:25:22.200 Parents should not react in a negative way because children are just exploring.

00:25:27.420 So you should encourage this kind of behavior.

00:25:30.900 If a child is performing these activities excessively in public, why, you might sit them down, have

00:25:37.640 a talk with them about how this should be done in private.

00:25:39.560 So if it's happening, like, at a Taco Bell booth, you want to maybe put a stop to it.

00:25:43.300 Yes.

00:25:43.760 Don't try to thwart the activity, of course, altogether.

00:25:46.800 You don't want that.

00:25:47.420 No, no, no.

00:25:47.820 You just tell them to do it behind closed doors.

00:25:49.520 Weren't these the same people that were telling us that we had to tell our kids which parts

00:25:56.400 of their body was private and which part was a no touch?

00:25:59.980 So that nobody will touch?

00:26:01.120 No touch zones?

00:26:02.420 Yeah.

00:26:03.180 When was it when we started predicting that they would have to make this, they would have

00:26:07.520 to normalize things like pedophilia?

00:26:10.420 And for the last several years, we've seen this.

00:26:13.160 Now, they're talking about sex among kids themselves, like a four and a seven-year-old inappropriately

00:26:18.040 touching is perfectly normal and generally harmless.

00:26:21.300 But how far away are we from telling us all that it's fine if adults engage in this activity?

00:26:27.460 You have to.

00:26:27.960 You have to.

00:26:29.020 If you're being consistent.

00:26:31.280 Yeah.

00:26:32.080 You have to.

00:26:33.680 There's absolutely nothing anymore.

00:26:36.380 Really, that's verboten.

00:26:38.180 There's nothing that you should say to your kids.

00:26:40.300 I think that word is.

00:26:41.340 Hey, don't do that.

00:26:41.800 That word makes me think of the white Germans. 0.88

00:26:43.840 Did I make you uncomfortable?

00:26:45.060 Yeah.

00:26:45.480 We're looking for the master race. 1.00

00:26:46.720 Were you uncomfortable there?

00:26:48.000 Absolutely.

00:26:48.400 That was a trigger word for me.

00:26:49.520 It was somewhat.

00:26:50.200 Although trigger word is also a trigger word because it has the word trigger in it.

00:26:54.360 Oh, my gosh.

00:26:54.940 Now you have made me uncomfortable.

00:26:57.420 I'm sorry.

00:26:58.100 I wish you wouldn't have brought up that image in my head.

00:27:01.300 I'm sorry.

00:27:01.940 Wow.

00:27:02.200 You, Stu, are you uncomfortable as well?

00:27:03.760 I'm looking.

00:27:04.180 I'm hoping for a soundproof glass case that I could get into.

00:27:08.760 I can just stay in all the time.

00:27:10.140 You know, the University of Utah has a cry closet.

00:27:13.380 We should install one of those here.

00:27:15.140 I'm sorry, what?

00:27:15.620 It's a cry closet where you go and cry and get all emotional about your finals exams.

00:27:22.080 They've set them up all over campus.

00:27:23.960 It has pillows.

00:27:24.600 It has pillows.

00:27:25.180 It does.

00:27:25.780 Yeah.

00:27:26.300 Yeah.

00:27:26.660 So, I mean.

00:27:27.220 A cry closet.

00:27:28.520 Uh-huh.

00:27:29.400 Well, if you're going to.

00:27:30.200 Yeah.

00:27:30.500 And that's.

00:27:30.980 By the way, we want to make sure that people understand it's okay to cry at school about

00:27:35.300 a test.

00:27:36.180 Yeah.

00:27:36.320 But we just want a safe place for you to go.

00:27:38.420 And you might be crying because your parents told you not to touch other kids' genitals 0.94

00:27:41.960 when you were a child.

00:27:43.200 Right.

00:27:43.400 And you're still harmed by that.

00:27:44.540 Because they may have reacted negatively.

00:27:46.300 They may have.

00:27:47.080 And they shouldn't have.

00:27:47.820 They should not have to.

00:27:49.760 They have a cry closet? 0.95

00:27:51.640 Yeah.

00:27:53.740 Yeah, they do.

00:27:55.040 Is there any chance that anybody's ever going to grow up anymore?

00:27:58.140 Is there any chance?

00:27:59.760 Can you imagine a cry closet?

00:28:01.700 A cry closet?

00:28:03.900 I know.

00:28:04.220 We used to look up.

00:28:04.860 When I was a kid, we would look up to college students as, like, they were grown-ups.

00:28:09.460 They were the cool grown-ups.

00:28:10.780 Mm-hmm.

00:28:12.160 Can you imagine?

00:28:13.700 They're pansies now.

00:28:15.040 Yeah.

00:28:15.220 You're like, yeah, I was.

00:28:18.180 You know, I went and I.

00:28:21.320 Somebody.

00:28:22.180 Somebody used some trigger language.

00:28:24.080 And I had to go into the cry closet and cry all day.

00:28:26.780 You'd be like.

00:28:28.580 What?

00:28:29.820 You're eight.

00:28:31.320 Okay.

00:28:32.340 I don't want you touching me anymore.

00:28:34.100 You are weird.

00:28:35.760 Isn't it, though?

00:28:36.800 Because I used to have this view that, you know, we would talk about this before.

00:28:42.080 Like, oh, well, it's great.

00:28:43.060 You know, you can have your participation trophies in your cry closets.

00:28:46.480 And my kids will be the ones you're serving at your job where you can't do anything because you have completely unprepared for the world.

00:28:55.700 Yeah.

00:28:55.920 Yeah.

00:28:56.000 And I've converted this belief.

00:28:58.120 Because I now believe that these people who are building the cry closets and crying inside the cry closets, it will become so universal that cry closets will just be the thing.

00:29:10.460 That's what society will be.

00:29:12.400 It's like we've talked about, like, with, you know, global warming before.

00:29:15.460 You can come out and you can say, well, global, you know, forget that a global warming is real or not.

00:29:20.320 Talk about the idea that, you know, they're encouraging you to do things that absolutely with all certainty, even if you believe every piece of nonsense that Al Gore has ever said will not solve the problem.

00:29:32.580 You know, doing things like, well, you know, you need to unplug your appliances and, you know, all these little steps that will make a quote unquote difference when they know, you know, it's just about selling the idea, right?

00:29:46.460 It's not about actually making a difference.

00:29:47.880 You can't scientifically make a difference with any of those, you know, causes.

00:29:51.140 So, I used to think, well, eventually, like, people will realize that, sure, we want to be clean, but, you know, this is stupid.

00:30:00.320 And the reality of the situation, the reality of fossil fuels being incredibly useful to build, I don't know, a civilization on, at some point, people just get older and realize this.

00:30:12.480 There's soul on it when they're dopey kids and they eventually realize it later on in life.

00:30:17.060 I no longer believe that's accurate at all.

00:30:19.340 I now believe that those nonsensical ideas that are fed to teenagers just become the truth later on.

00:30:27.740 Not that they're actually true, but that just, it's so widely believed and never challenged that they just adopt that as the entire civilization's policy.

00:30:38.320 So, you.

00:30:39.000 So, we're screwed is what I was saying.

00:30:40.420 You are right.

00:30:41.760 Because I've always felt.

00:30:43.040 No pulling back from this.

00:30:44.220 No, no, no.

00:30:44.700 What he's saying about how that just becomes the norm.

00:30:47.300 Well, yeah.

00:30:47.880 I've always believed in self-evident truth.

00:30:51.020 I don't believe that anymore.

00:30:52.880 I don't believe there is.

00:30:53.620 Things aren't self-evident to people.

00:30:54.760 They are not self-evident to people.

00:30:57.240 Your freedom is not self-evident.

00:31:00.400 That is something that had to be carefully taught and studied and reasoned.

00:31:05.900 Yeah.

00:31:06.060 And then, when that society had enough reason in it, it started going, wait a minute, I shouldn't have somebody else telling me what to do.

00:31:15.880 Yeah.

00:31:17.200 That's when it becomes self-evident.

00:31:18.860 So, it is quickly becoming self-evident that the dinosaurs that believe in cry rooms being funny or cry rooms being tragically sad because it makes you into a four-year-old that will never be prepared for life, that is going to be self-evident that we are wrong and the cry room is right.

00:31:40.980 Yeah.

00:31:41.320 Yeah.

00:31:41.640 I mean, the first step was to kill common sense and reason.

00:31:44.840 And they've successfully done that.

00:31:46.520 Are we not seeing this exact process happen with gender right now?

00:31:49.640 Yes.

00:31:50.060 Right?

00:31:50.200 Like, gender, like, again, like, there was an idea, there's never, it's never been about hating someone or anything like that.

00:31:55.540 It's just, like, it's always been, there's been two genders and that's the way it was. 1.00

00:31:58.560 Well, X and Y.

00:31:59.260 And there was a, right, chromosomes, right?

00:32:01.000 Like, and you'd think that eventually the chromosome thing works, it plays out and people understand that that's what it is despite the crazy things that people would say.

00:32:08.820 And what happens now is it just keeps moving down that road and for a while, I mean, if you go back 20 years, you'll see comedians like crazy making fun of concepts like this.

00:32:18.760 They would mock them, the idea that there were 100 genders. 0.53

00:32:22.820 You don't know.

00:32:23.060 Now it's only crazy conservatives who say 95 genders is not correct.

00:32:28.520 And in 10 years.

00:32:29.360 Right, because I believe there are, hear me carefully, I think there are 250 genders. 0.62

00:32:34.100 I'm not part of these guys, they're haters.

00:32:36.260 And in 10 years, people will be like, do you know at one point they believed there were only 250 genders?

00:32:43.400 It's true.

00:32:44.040 This will happen.

00:32:45.140 It's true.

00:32:45.760 It's amazing.

00:32:46.300 Can you believe they actually believed in genders at one point?

00:32:49.600 Yeah.

00:32:49.960 Do you see the fashion show that happened in London or Paris this weekend?

00:32:52.800 I did not.

00:32:53.340 With the guys who were wearing prosthetic bellies because we live in a world now where men can have children. 0.97

00:33:03.040 Thank you, finally.

00:33:03.800 And, I mean, I've appeared pregnant for years and I believe in that completely.

00:33:10.160 I don't have to wear prosthetics.

00:33:11.600 I just cannot seem to give birth to this thing.

00:33:14.220 So, I saw a local letter to the editor.

00:33:19.940 It said, something different is happening.

00:33:22.260 I was recently told by a friend that our local paper is a conservative paper and I felt once in a while letters to the editor were written by conservative thinkers.

00:33:30.200 There seems to be a change of late.

00:33:31.980 I'm not sure if there is a change in the paper's role or if thinkers on the other side are stepping up to the plate.

00:33:37.660 But both political parties seem so lost to their elected purpose of working for the people.

00:33:42.360 They're overly focused on getting reelected and not going against their big money supporters.

00:33:46.860 Last Sunday, I was watching Glenn Beck interviewed on CNN's Reliable Sources and, to my surprise, he held my attention when he spoke of Martin Luther King's call for reconciliation.

00:33:57.120 He said, both sides are just trying to win.

00:34:00.640 We have to listen to one another.

00:34:03.200 This person writes in, if we're going to continue to have a viable two-party system, we have to know what each party stands for and what they believe.

00:34:14.560 And in my mind, Beck makes some very important points.

00:34:17.960 I'm now reading two books about conservatives written by conservatives.

00:34:23.720 To get our country back, intended by our founders, we have to step out of our comfort zone, listen, reflect, and reframe.

00:34:30.940 Listen, this is fantastic.

00:34:34.960 If we can have that honest discovery of each other and ask the Ford dealer about the Ford, not the Chevy dealer.

00:34:44.960 Ask the Ford dealer.

00:34:45.920 Ask conservatives about conservatives.

00:34:47.940 Liberals about liberals.

00:34:51.880 Glenn Beck.

00:34:54.100 Everybody listen.

00:34:55.040 Shh, quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet. 0.86

00:34:56.580 Listen.

00:34:57.860 Can you hear it?

00:34:58.460 The people who are working on Italian Job 3, the writers of Mission Impossible going, you've got to be kidding me.

00:35:06.740 How come we didn't think of that?

00:35:07.680 That's brilliant.

00:35:09.280 The perfect heist.

00:35:11.080 It's theatrical.

00:35:12.660 It's historical.

00:35:14.400 It has crips and old royal jewels and jet skis.

00:35:20.280 This is the ultimate movie.

00:35:22.380 It happened in broad daylight, 14th century cathedral on a sunny day in Sweden.

00:35:30.760 Two men snuck into a cathedral.

00:35:33.440 Somehow, according to the Associated Press, the two men stole a gold crown and an orb dating back to 1611.

00:35:40.380 They were made for a king, King Carl IX and his funeral, jewel-encrusted crown dating back to 1625 that was used with Queen Christina's funeral.

00:35:52.940 So they took the orb, the staff, and two crowns.

00:35:57.500 Now, well, let me just give you the rest of the story.

00:36:00.080 The items were on display at an exhibition, and people were inside when all of this was just taken.

00:36:09.300 Two men smashed the security glass protecting the artifacts.

00:36:13.380 The sirens went off.

00:36:15.240 They grabbed the treasure.

00:36:17.120 They went outside.

00:36:18.200 They hopped onto a couple of bicycles.

00:36:19.740 They were weighed down by the loot packed on the back, but they were in custom-made baskets for the bikes and infant carriers.

00:36:32.860 Then we're not really sure what happened.

00:36:34.920 Either way, they made it to a nearby dock and hopped onto some jet skis.

00:36:39.840 So they made a heist of the stuff from the 14th century on jet skis.

00:36:44.260 I love this story.

00:36:45.700 I absolutely love this story.

00:36:47.500 They haven't found them.

00:36:50.360 I mean, this is really despicable, and it's horrible.

00:36:52.660 Or is it?

00:36:53.320 Is it?

00:36:53.840 Stu, I would like you to weigh in on this.

00:36:55.560 All right.

00:36:56.140 Okay.

00:36:58.300 It's, you know, 1600s.

00:37:00.820 You're a king.

00:37:01.880 Okay.

00:37:02.580 They make you a crown, and then they put it in a tomb with you.

00:37:08.120 And then they just took it out recently to show it to everybody.

00:37:11.720 It's been in a tomb for like, you know, 300, 400 years.

00:37:14.500 Mm-hmm.

00:37:16.320 I say these guys aren't at robbers as much as they are just the first archaeologists.

00:37:23.620 Okay.

00:37:24.460 It's, uh...

00:37:25.200 I mean, so what's the difference between opening King Tut's tomb and taking everything that

00:37:29.440 they left there that, you know, he's going to take with him, and this?

00:37:32.180 You weren't using it?

00:37:34.780 Oh, and they stole it from someone who they stole it from.

00:37:37.560 Huh?

00:37:37.920 They stole it from somebody who already stole it.

00:37:40.520 Right.

00:37:40.920 I mean, they're ripping off a tomb.

00:37:43.280 Right.

00:37:43.740 Right?

00:37:44.040 I mean...

00:37:44.400 And they're dead.

00:37:45.080 What are they going to do with it?

00:37:45.980 What are you going to do with it?

00:37:46.980 What?

00:37:47.260 You're not going to take their shoes?

00:37:49.320 I mean, if you need shoes and somebody's been buried in shoes, what?

00:37:52.900 It's a waste of shoes.

00:37:54.300 I need the shoes.

00:37:55.320 Let me have the shoes.

00:37:56.240 You're going to...

00:37:56.880 Just make sure you're endorsing grave robbery.

00:37:59.040 I'm just...

00:37:59.920 I'm just saying...

00:38:01.040 Well, after a while.

00:38:02.160 I mean, not like...

00:38:03.860 Shoes would probably be bad.

00:38:05.920 Okay?

00:38:06.980 Open it up for some shoes would be bad.

00:38:08.940 And especially new.

00:38:10.280 How nice are the shoes?

00:38:12.040 Some shoes can be quite expensive.

00:38:14.240 Like if they were the Pope shoes?

00:38:16.500 Because those always are very fancy.

00:38:18.900 Pope shoes are fancy?

00:38:19.800 I know Pope hats are fancy.

00:38:22.440 Yeah, the shoes are pretty fancy, too.

00:38:24.040 And the only reason why I know that is because of a drunken...

00:38:27.940 Yeah, drunken mess I was one Christmas Eve, you know, at the Vatican with the Pope.

00:38:34.120 And ended up with me standing on a pew, pointing at his shoes, going, look at his shoes, man.

00:38:43.320 His shoes are fancy.

00:38:45.440 Wait, do we have a new story alert?

00:38:47.720 We should probably not dwell on that story.

00:38:49.580 No, I've never heard this.

00:38:50.920 I think we need to move on.

00:38:52.400 No.

00:38:52.640 We need to move on here.

00:38:56.380 Wait, is that his dream?

00:38:58.020 You know, that was a real story.

00:38:59.600 It's not a proud moment of my life, no.

00:39:02.920 But we can make it into a proud moment of your life right now.

00:39:08.280 No, I don't think you can.

00:39:08.900 It also involves talking nuns out of their tickets to Midnight Mass.

00:39:18.080 You know, I was 20.

00:39:19.720 You know, I was maybe 25.

00:39:22.380 Maybe 45?

00:39:23.780 No, no.

00:39:24.660 No, I was definitely in my 20s.

00:39:26.960 And it's not one of the prouder moments of my life.

00:39:30.200 And I was with a friend.

00:39:32.460 And the story ends with a very terse phone call from his very Catholic father. 0.84

00:39:42.040 Uh-oh.

00:39:43.100 Who was happening to watch Midnight Mass that year from Chicago.

00:39:49.780 And he called, he called his son and said, was that you and Glenn standing on the chair

00:40:02.600 pointing at the Pope?

00:40:05.940 And all I remember was saying, what are you talking about?

00:40:10.920 What are you talking about?

00:40:12.540 It was very, it was.

00:40:13.940 How do we?

00:40:14.500 I don't want to hear anything else you're about to say.

00:40:16.640 No, we don't want to go on to other things, too.

00:40:19.020 We just have to go on to other things.

00:40:20.800 Don't act like this is a responsible broadcaster thing to do.

00:40:24.900 You just don't want to tell the story.

00:40:29.200 How have I never heard this story before?

00:40:31.940 I don't know.

00:40:32.980 I don't know.

00:40:33.720 It's, you know, it's not one of those that you pull out like, hey, I just won an award.

00:40:40.000 This is not one that you pull out of the bag.

00:40:43.260 So I was, you want to do this or do you want to go?

00:40:48.120 I mean, we have addicted to outrage to play.

00:40:50.320 We go, we can only do one.

00:40:52.460 What's it going to be?

00:40:53.340 You know, you're trying to get out of it.

00:40:55.340 I'm just saying, I guess it's your personal story.

00:40:58.580 You make the decision.

00:40:59.600 I'll go either way.

00:41:01.360 I don't think there's a question here.

00:41:03.380 I want to know what happened to you at the Vatican on television.

00:41:06.900 Apparently, is there footage of this?

00:41:08.620 Probably at the Vatican archives.

00:41:10.680 Yeah.

00:41:11.740 Okay.

00:41:12.280 So it's, I don't know, the mid or late 80s and probably 1989, I think.

00:41:20.800 And I had gone over to do a USO thing, you know, on an aircraft carrier.

00:41:27.540 And then I decided to take a few weeks off and just, you know, just hang out in Italy and Germany and just kind of, you know, do what 20-year-olds do, I guess, you know, drink.

00:41:41.760 And so I stayed there.

00:41:46.480 And this is really the beginning, I think, of my alcoholism.

00:41:49.460 Because if you travel Europe, especially Italy alone, and you discover how good red wine is, they serve it by the bottle.

00:41:59.180 And so every meal is another bottle of red wine.

00:42:02.940 So my friend joins me in the last week, and it's Christmas week, and he's very Catholic.

00:42:12.820 And so he says, you know, I really want to go to Christmas Eve mass.

00:42:19.120 And I said, well, I think you need a ticket for that.

00:42:21.660 And we don't have tickets.

00:42:22.480 And he's like, ah, crap.

00:42:23.680 So we spent, you know, all Christmas Eve, you know, just drinking and, you know, and just kind of going around and just being, you know, Christmas jovial Americans.

00:42:38.900 Okay.

00:42:39.520 Okay.

00:42:40.000 And so about nine o'clock, we're completely hammered.

00:42:48.620 And he says, you want to go?

00:42:51.940 You want to get in?

00:42:52.540 And I'm like.

00:42:54.180 To the mass.

00:42:55.320 We were in St. Peter's Square.

00:42:56.740 It's packed.

00:42:57.440 And I'm like, how are we going to get in?

00:42:59.200 He's like, I have an idea.

00:43:01.840 So he leaves.

00:43:02.900 About 20 minutes later, he comes back.

00:43:04.920 And he's like, I got them.

00:43:07.700 And I'm like, what do you mean?

00:43:08.540 And he's, I got two tickets.

00:43:11.000 It's like red on front.

00:43:14.020 And I said, how did you get two tickets?

00:43:15.520 And he said, I talked these two nuns out of their tickets.

00:43:19.940 I said, you what?

00:43:22.540 He said, no, I'm feeling bad now.

00:43:25.240 I'm hammered.

00:43:26.420 And I'm feeling bad.

00:43:27.680 I'm like, you shouldn't have talked to the nuns out of me. 1.00

00:43:29.920 He's like, oh, they come all the time.

00:43:31.740 They see the Pope all the time.

00:43:33.260 This is our one chance to see the Pope.

00:43:36.000 And I'm like, oh, this is fantastic.

00:43:37.980 Are you sure the nuns are okay?

00:43:39.860 And he's like, absolutely.

00:43:41.040 They're okay.

00:43:41.740 And I'm like, okay.

00:43:42.500 Because if they feel bad, I'll feel bad.

00:43:44.020 But if they don't feel bad, I'm going to see the Pope.

00:43:47.720 So we go in.

00:43:50.780 And you wait.

00:43:51.940 And you wait.

00:43:52.500 And you wait.

00:43:53.060 And you wait.

00:43:53.540 And you sit.

00:43:54.100 And there's nothing to do.

00:43:55.000 And you're like, this is really kind of slow.

00:43:58.260 And then the Pope comes in.

00:44:00.220 And the music starts.

00:44:01.380 Everybody stands up.

00:44:02.480 And it's very, usually very, very restrained.

00:44:08.100 I would think it would be restrained.

00:44:10.220 Yes.

00:44:10.540 But we decided we were, because we were about five or ten people away from the aisle.

00:44:18.820 And the Pope was coming.

00:44:20.640 And we couldn't see past the people that were there.

00:44:23.960 So we got up.

00:44:25.220 You wanted to solve a problem.

00:44:26.400 Yeah.

00:44:26.820 We got up on the little folding chairs.

00:44:29.360 Oh, no.

00:44:29.540 Yeah.

00:44:30.140 And stood on the folding chairs.

00:44:32.240 And he started saying, it's the Pope.

00:44:36.240 And I'm like, I can't believe it's the Pope.

00:44:39.160 It's the Pope right there.

00:44:41.080 And he's like, this is incredible.

00:44:44.080 And I said, look at his shoes.

00:44:48.520 Even his shoes are Pope-ish.

00:44:51.100 Look at that.

00:44:53.340 It was.

00:44:54.960 Well, they were.

00:44:55.900 They were like, you know, I don't even know anymore.

00:44:59.200 But they were fancy shoes.

00:45:00.760 They were like, I don't know, red and either velvet or something.

00:45:05.380 And they had Pope signs or something on them.

00:45:08.320 I don't know.

00:45:09.080 But they were fancy shoes, apparently.

00:45:10.820 Because that's all I really remember was like, look at his shoes.

00:45:16.680 Were they blurry to your eye?

00:45:19.460 Was everything blurry to your eye at this point?

00:45:21.900 No.

00:45:22.160 For some reason, I can see all of it.

00:45:26.020 Unfortunately, not from my perspective.

00:45:30.400 Somehow or another, my memory is from like a bird's eye view.

00:45:34.560 It's like God gave me a little extra gift.

00:45:38.280 I'm going to make sure you see this the way I saw this.

00:45:43.660 Okay.

00:45:44.260 So you've now stood on a chair and pointed at the Pope's feet.

00:45:49.840 And you think this is over at this point?

00:45:53.240 Did they kick you out?

00:45:54.440 Nothing happened?

00:45:55.580 No.

00:45:56.760 No, not exactly.

00:45:58.320 No, I mean, we, it was, I don't want to, you know, let's just say this.

00:46:04.600 Two days later, on the good side.

00:46:08.600 Two days later, we were flying home.

00:46:12.480 And we're walking down the streets of, of Rome.

00:46:16.120 And, you know, there's all these shops for the priests shop at, you know, and they have

00:46:20.320 the cassocks and all that stuff.

00:46:22.880 And, you know, we're flying coach.

00:46:24.820 And my friend is a really good con man.

00:46:28.920 And, um, he said, you want to fly first class back?

00:46:35.420 And I said, how are we going to do that?

00:46:38.340 And he's like, I got an idea.

00:46:41.320 Come on, come on with me.

00:46:42.940 Oh no.

00:46:43.360 And so he, we get to this store where it's all the, you know, stuff for, you know, bishops

00:46:52.440 and stuff.

00:46:53.040 And I, and I, but to my credit, I said, no, this is going too far.

00:47:01.160 And so we didn't do it.

00:47:03.200 Um, although we, we, he wanted to dress as a bishop to get moved to first class.

00:47:07.820 Yeah.

00:47:08.160 Yeah.

00:47:08.620 Or just a couple of priests.

00:47:10.400 And I, I, I did, I, we didn't do it.

00:47:13.180 Um, uh, it's good.

00:47:15.240 That's a good choice, Glenn.

00:47:16.920 That was a good choice.

00:47:18.760 And then we, we, we, we, we, I wish I could tell you that the story ended with us in coach

00:47:28.720 all the way back home, but it doesn't, it doesn't end in, in coach.

00:47:37.280 And, um, I don't think we got on the plane.

00:47:43.180 And, uh, my friend had to go to the bathroom and as, uh, Peter was just about, you know,

00:47:51.580 after the plane, you know, reaches altitude, um, I, uh, I, I hear an announcement, uh, that

00:48:01.520 I am, uh, on my way home to get married, uh, to the love of my life who we hadn't seen each

00:48:10.080 other forever and had found each other in a, in a very, uh, you know, a very heartwarming

00:48:15.840 way.

00:48:16.380 And all the stewardesses just thought it was this, the greatest story, uh, ever.

00:48:20.840 So please, everybody just give a round of applause.

00:48:24.080 Uh, and I was asked to come up with my friend and have champagne in first class on the way

00:48:30.480 home.

00:48:31.140 So, wow.

00:48:32.300 Yeah.

00:48:33.180 Congratulations.

00:48:33.580 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:48:35.380 It was very, uh, that's what happens when you're one with a Pope.

00:48:39.440 That's what happens.

00:48:40.300 I don't think you were one with the Pope on that trip.

00:48:42.720 Holy.

00:48:43.740 Thank you.

00:48:44.360 Thank you for bringing that.

00:48:45.220 I have to find this footage.

00:48:46.660 If there's anyone at the Vatican listening, what year was this?

00:48:50.640 I think 1989.

00:48:52.240 1989.

00:48:53.180 If anyone has 1989 Christmas Eve mats.

00:48:56.480 And you'll see us.

00:48:57.980 We were there.

00:48:59.280 We were there.

00:49:00.920 God.

00:49:01.160 I have to find this footage now.

00:49:03.280 I no longer have any other career goals.

00:49:05.500 All right.

00:49:06.300 I may not have a career.

00:49:08.360 Glenn Beck.

00:49:12.520 Join Glenn, Stu, Pat Gray, Doc Thompson, and Sarah Gonzalez weeknights at 530 Eastern on

00:49:18.280 the news and why it matters.

00:49:20.180 Tweet us your questions using the hashtag TheBlazeWhy and tune into the show to hear the answers

00:49:24.500 at TheBlaze.com slash TV.

00:49:31.160 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:49:35.160 Well, Stu, you just kind of blew this show all to hell.

00:49:37.900 It's the most important show we've done in years.

00:49:40.260 Somewhere.

00:49:41.020 I got Josh holding in California.

00:49:42.880 He's got some important stuff.

00:49:44.620 We have really important.

00:49:46.920 You know, we have somebody to lynch as a mob today.

00:49:50.880 I was interested in that.

00:49:52.140 I still am.

00:49:53.080 We have to do the lynch mob. 0.94

00:49:53.700 But, I mean, I just want to make sure that we understand that somewhere out there exists

00:49:56.960 a video of the 1989 or 1990 Vatican Christmas Eve mass in which you idiotically are standing 0.70

00:50:05.360 on a chair and pointing at the Pope.

00:50:06.760 I'm not sure there's not video of that.

00:50:08.080 I looked up Pope shoes, by the way.

00:50:10.200 Do a Google search for Pope shoes.

00:50:12.260 Okay.

00:50:12.580 Okay.

00:50:12.800 So, the papal slippers are made of red velvet or silk, and they are heavily decorated in

00:50:20.700 a gold braid with a gold cross in the middle, chosen to reflect the blood of Christ's own

00:50:29.880 bloody feet as he was prodded and whipped and pushed along the Via Dolorosa on his way

00:50:37.320 to the crucifixion.

00:50:38.620 I don't think they really reflect Christ's bloody feet.

00:50:41.400 They're nice.

00:50:42.000 You know?

00:50:43.440 Yes, they are red.

00:50:47.260 And I just remember them being very impressed.

00:50:49.380 You know, I am sartorial in nature, so.

00:50:52.880 I'm not surprised.

00:50:54.120 Believe me, the shocking part of the story is not the fact that you looked at the dude's

00:50:58.160 shoes.

00:50:58.720 Like, that seems very Glenn Beck-esque.

00:51:01.280 The fact that you were on video, gone through this entire career in front of the media, and

00:51:07.080 no one has been able to unlock video of you at the mass pointing at his shoes and drunkenly

00:51:13.960 yelling.

00:51:14.080 Well, see, as I was telling you this story just a few minutes ago, it really didn't occur

00:51:18.280 to me that you would be pushing for the look for that video.

00:51:22.480 It's interesting, because I'm already coming up with a hashtag, because I think this is

00:51:25.500 something that America can unite on.

00:51:29.160 You know, we talk about-

00:51:29.680 I suddenly have a really throbbing headache.

00:51:32.680 I'm not kidding.

00:51:33.480 Just suddenly.

00:51:34.220 It was like, right now, a gigantic throbbing headache has become.

00:51:37.580 Because there's a lot of researchers out there that uncover documents, videos, pictures.

00:51:44.380 I was making this whole thing up.

00:51:45.900 It didn't.

00:51:46.520 I mean-

00:51:46.780 Oh, I don't think that's true.

00:51:47.680 You know what?

00:51:47.960 We can figure that out, though.

00:51:48.980 We don't need to-

00:51:49.600 We don't need to take your word for it.

00:51:50.840 You know me.

00:51:50.940 I tell tall tales.

00:51:52.460 See, they have photos, too.

00:51:54.200 So we could probably find you in photos.

00:51:55.880 As you mentioned to me earlier, you're about, what, a third?

00:52:00.220 I don't remember.

00:52:01.280 I don't recall.

00:52:02.360 On the left side, if you're looking from the back-

00:52:04.380 I do not recall.

00:52:06.140 And you said about nine or ten seats in, I think was the way you described it.

00:52:09.760 I was heavily intoxicated.

00:52:13.100 I thought you said it didn't happen.

00:52:14.720 I don't-

00:52:15.380 In my imagination, I was heavily intoxicated.

00:52:19.560 I'm willing to take your hashtag ideas to get this trending.

00:52:23.140 How do we find the 1989 or 19-

00:52:25.760 This is a long hashtag.

00:52:26.980 1989 or 1990 Christmas Eve mass video at the Vatican.

00:52:31.520 We need something, a catchy hashtag.

00:52:33.260 You know, it was even Pope John Paul.

00:52:35.220 I am so embarrassed.

00:52:36.300 It was Pope John Paul.

00:52:37.200 Oh, yeah.

00:52:38.040 I've seen pictures from the event, from the mass.

00:52:41.500 And, I mean, it looks like the type of thing that you wouldn't want to stand up on a chair

00:52:45.600 and drunkenly point at someone.

00:52:47.120 No, it wasn't.

00:52:47.920 It doesn't seem like that type of event.

00:52:49.300 I remember his father being very, very clear.

00:52:53.560 Please tell me that was not my son standing on a chair as the Pope came in.

00:53:02.340 And that's when it all kind of went-

00:53:04.440 And we realized there were cameras there.

00:53:09.160 It's not good.

00:53:10.740 What have we done as a society in which this video-

00:53:14.280 Think about it.

00:53:14.740 We criticize journalists all the time.

00:53:16.500 How have they not uncovered this already?

00:53:18.440 How has a major journalistic organization not pulled up this video throughout your-

00:53:25.580 This entire run of you, you know, you were a syndicated radio host 17 years ago.

00:53:31.200 Because until today, I apparently was very good at keeping this secret.

00:53:34.400 I don't even know how it came out now.

00:53:36.540 I don't know how we started down this.

00:53:38.380 But, everyone, you should forget this.

00:53:41.320 These are things that did not happen.

00:53:44.220 This is not the papal story you are looking for.

00:53:47.200 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:53:56.080 So, we have a couple of things here.

00:53:58.720 Stu, choose your news.

00:54:00.160 You ready?

00:54:00.820 I'm ready.

00:54:02.500 Power use rises during Earth Hour for first time.

00:54:07.540 I like that one.

00:54:08.660 That's pretty solid.

00:54:09.560 Mother crashes car into a pole to prove God is real to children.

00:54:19.240 They're both good.

00:54:20.520 Choose your news.

00:54:21.540 Story one.

00:54:22.260 I need to know how crashing your car into a pole proves anything about God.

00:54:28.120 Oh, you can't do the math on that?

00:54:29.540 No, I cannot.

00:54:31.240 Police say a mother intentionally crashed her SUV into a pole to prove to her two small children that God is real.

00:54:39.560 The investigators.

00:54:43.200 Did the investigators investigate why that would prove that God was real?

00:54:47.620 That's what I'm.

00:54:48.860 No, they just wanted to find out what the accident was caused by.

00:54:52.360 And the children told the investigator that mom did it on purpose to show them that if they believe, God would protect them.

00:55:05.120 So would protect them from the pole or protect them from surviving the crash with the pole?

00:55:10.840 Don't you believe?

00:55:11.360 Are you not a believer?

00:55:12.520 No, I think I am.

00:55:13.380 But maybe I'm not.

00:55:14.200 Maybe not enough, apparently.

00:55:15.600 Yeah.

00:55:16.060 Because I've never crashed.

00:55:17.320 I've never intentionally crashed a car into a pole.

00:55:19.980 God will save you from anything.

00:55:21.980 Well, because it's weird because it seems like God, like a big part of Christianity is what happens after you die.

00:55:27.340 So I don't think he's necessarily saving you from an earthly situation every time.

00:55:33.600 The point is that there's something deeper than that.

00:55:35.920 Let me ask you this.

00:55:36.660 Are you a believer or not?

00:55:38.640 Yes, I am.

00:55:39.520 Okay, good.

00:55:40.380 Would you bring in the flamethrower?

00:55:43.520 Because God will save you from that if you believe.

00:55:46.000 And if you don't believe, you didn't believe enough.

00:55:49.260 I mean, if you burned to a crisp, you didn't believe enough.

00:55:53.640 So what you're saying is if I float, you're a witch.

00:55:57.880 But if I drown, I'm not a witch and therefore cleared from that crime.

00:56:01.860 Correct.

00:56:02.420 That's a wonderful.

00:56:03.120 So if you believe you, I can't burn you to death.

00:56:08.880 Bring the flamethrower in.

00:56:11.900 Sitting in the car, her children explained what happened before the crash.

00:56:16.220 The officer said, do you think she did it on purpose? 0.54

00:56:19.780 Yeah, said the seven-year-old.

00:56:23.640 Because she turned, her eyes were closed, and she was saying, blah, blah, blah, I love

00:56:30.880 God, said one daughter.

00:56:32.740 She didn't want us to have a car accident.

00:56:35.060 She just wanted us to know that God is real.

00:56:39.400 Again, why would that prove that God is real, that she crashed into a pole?

00:56:44.180 Like, I can understand saying, I'm going to close my eyes, and I'm going to navigate

00:56:47.080 this street and not run into a pole because God's going to guide me.

00:56:50.820 I can understand that logic.

00:56:51.940 I don't think it's a good idea.

00:56:53.820 I don't know if she had the God is my co-pilot sticker.

00:56:57.520 Like, Jesus takes the wheel.

00:56:59.420 Like, I could get, at least there's a sense to that, that theoretically it would make sense.

00:57:04.460 Again, I would not recommend it right now.

00:57:06.220 If you're in your car, don't let Jesus take the wheel. 0.98

00:57:08.280 He wants you to drive your car.

00:57:09.500 I'm pretty sure that's true.

00:57:12.120 I think so.

00:57:12.600 But maybe it's that I'm not a big enough believer.

00:57:14.640 Boy, is she saying that God will help me navigate the streets, and then she ran into

00:57:21.260 a pole, therefore disproving God? 0.99

00:57:23.060 Or is she saying, hey, I'm going to crash this pole? 0.99

00:57:26.740 Did they all walk away?

00:57:28.540 I don't know.

00:57:29.400 You haven't included that detail.

00:57:30.400 No one was hurt in the accident.

00:57:31.540 Okay, so.

00:57:32.640 Officers said it could have been much, much worse.

00:57:35.100 I'm quoting, could have been a lot worse.

00:57:37.380 Could have been heavier traffic at the time.

00:57:39.500 She could have hit the pole at such an angle that she did more damage to the car, but she 1.00

00:57:43.720 didn't.

00:57:44.640 You know why?

00:57:45.860 God was her co-pilot. 0.93

00:57:47.480 Okay.

00:57:47.940 So God navigated her into a lesser impact collision.

00:57:52.180 Yes.

00:57:53.380 I'm fine with that.

00:57:54.900 There you go.

00:57:55.800 Yeah, I'm fine with that.

00:57:56.620 I mean, I protected the kids, even though the parents are dummy.

00:57:58.900 What was the thing about, you know, don't tempt the Lord?

00:58:04.300 Don't, you know, you're not supposed to.

00:58:06.460 Taunt?

00:58:07.060 You certainly shouldn't taunt him.

00:58:08.520 Yeah, you're not.

00:58:09.840 You're not supposed to say, hey, Lord, I'll give you this.

00:58:13.520 You do this.

00:58:14.920 Hey, why don't I?

00:58:15.960 You know what?

00:58:16.440 I'm really, really hungry here out in this desert.

00:58:19.000 Why don't you just, why don't you just turn this into a nice meal for me?

00:58:22.380 The sand.

00:58:23.260 Yeah.

00:58:23.780 Just so I can show you a magic trick.

00:58:25.400 So I can show my friend over here who I don't think actually is your friend or mine, but

00:58:29.600 I just want to show him that you're real.

00:58:31.240 So I'm going to fly off of this cliff.

00:58:33.820 No, God doesn't do that.

00:58:35.060 And he doesn't want you to do that.

00:58:37.320 That's a bad idea.

00:58:38.440 I mean, perhaps she didn't have a deep doctrinal understanding of the scriptures.

00:58:45.760 Perhaps.

00:58:46.840 Perhaps.

00:58:47.460 But the kids are going to learn a lesson about God they're never going to forget.

00:58:50.960 They won't.

00:58:52.100 They will remember that one.

00:58:53.400 They will remember it.

00:58:53.640 I don't know if it works out well, but they will remember the lesson.

00:58:56.680 Put this in your calendar.

00:58:58.560 Put this in your calendar for about 10 years because the seven-year-old will be 17.

00:59:03.940 And let's see if we can find her in 10 years.

00:59:08.300 Because I'd like to say, hey, that whole thing with your mom, I know we're the only

00:59:11.600 ones who remember it, but we put this in the calendar.

00:59:15.280 Yeah.

00:59:15.580 How are you doing now?

00:59:16.740 What do you think about God?

00:59:17.720 I think pretty well is the understanding that I would have.

00:59:23.060 Story number two.

00:59:24.220 Power rises in British Columbia during Earth Hour.

00:59:29.200 Despite their best intentions, British Columbians increased their power use during Earth Hour

00:59:36.460 for the first time in a decade.

00:59:38.140 BC Hydroelectrics says electricity use in the province rose 0.2% from 8.30 to 9.30 compared

00:59:46.420 to the same hour the week before.

00:59:48.760 Earth Hour is an annual World Wildlife Fund event that encourages people across the globe

00:59:54.400 to turn off their lights for one hour to draw attention to climate change.

00:59:58.360 That used to be global warming. 0.88

01:00:02.240 Now it's just climate change.

01:00:04.120 But let's remember, it used to be global warming.

01:00:10.180 Why did they change it?

01:00:11.660 Let me read the story.

01:00:12.620 The rest of the story.

01:00:13.160 The increase in electricity is probably due to declining participation.

01:00:18.440 Also, colder weather in many parts of the province.

01:00:23.420 In BC Hydro report published this month, the Crown Corporation said seven in ten survey

01:00:28.980 respondents said they did plan on participating in Earth Hour this year.

01:00:33.540 But the Crown Corporation says it also marks the fifth year in a trend of declining participation

01:00:38.220 in the province.

01:00:39.560 So when you call people up and you survey, seven out of ten are like, oh my gosh, yeah.

01:00:44.440 Recycle?

01:00:45.140 Uh-huh.

01:00:46.080 Uh-huh.

01:00:46.840 And turn off my lights?

01:00:49.240 You bet.

01:00:50.080 Turn down the air conditioning?

01:00:51.580 Oh my gosh.

01:00:52.240 We're thinking about getting rid of our air conditioning.

01:00:54.080 As soon as they hang up the phone and they stop the survey, oh man, they are, they're making

01:01:00.040 plastic in their home.

01:01:02.340 They're making styrofoam and burying it out around their yard just because it'll never,

01:01:07.820 you know, you got to just bury it all around.

01:01:09.520 So we can't, we don't, we don't want it all in one place.

01:01:12.300 Bury it all around.

01:01:13.340 And they're doing it with a, like a, like a window air conditioner strapped to their

01:01:19.400 back so they don't get hot.

01:01:21.360 Right.

01:01:21.720 But they'll tell you they're all into it.

01:01:23.840 Everybody loves the environment until it affects their life in any way.

01:01:27.980 You know, as soon as they, there's a moment they have to lose any of their niceties in

01:01:34.660 life, they, they abandon it.

01:01:36.740 This is one of the issues that the environmental movement is really having in that they are

01:01:41.520 trying to figure out ways to tell people, hey, you're involved, right?

01:01:47.720 You're doing something.

01:01:48.600 What you need to do is little steps.

01:01:49.960 Little steps will help.

01:01:51.100 Now we all know little steps won't help.

01:01:53.120 We've talked about this.

01:01:53.860 Little steps do help.

01:01:54.940 They don't help at all.

01:01:55.840 Yes, they do.

01:01:56.340 They do not help at all.

01:01:57.340 They do.

01:01:57.900 They don't.

01:01:58.360 They do.

01:01:58.900 I will tell you why they don't.

01:02:00.100 I will tell you why they do.

01:02:01.260 Sure.

01:02:01.500 Let me start.

01:02:02.180 Number one.

01:02:03.400 Hey, you guys should drive less.

01:02:05.040 You should buy a hybrid.

01:02:07.020 You should blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:02:08.800 If you turned off, turned off every car and never let any of them run again, you would

01:02:15.500 save about, this is cars and trucks, by the way, the entire transportation sector.

01:02:19.760 If you turned it off tomorrow in the United States, you would serve, you would save about

01:02:24.600 20% of our emissions.

01:02:26.380 And you'd say, well, that's a, it's a big deal.

01:02:28.640 Now it would still have 80% of your emissions still going.

01:02:32.100 However, you'd save about 20% of the emissions.

01:02:34.080 The problem with that, of course, is that the United States is only about 20% of global

01:02:38.500 emissions.

01:02:39.360 So you'd really, turning off the number one industrialized transportation sector in the

01:02:44.220 world would save you about four or 5% of global emissions.

01:02:49.160 Global emissions grow between two or 3% per year.

01:02:53.000 So you'd save yourself a couple of years if you turned off every motorized vehicle in the

01:02:59.360 United States.

01:03:00.400 That is not what they're asking you to do, right?

01:03:02.440 No one's saying you should, you shouldn't drive anymore because they know no one can

01:03:05.080 do that.

01:03:05.620 They're saying, well, you should, you should get a more fuel efficient car.

01:03:10.220 You should, you know what you need to do is, is you need to unplug those plugged in

01:03:15.160 appliances when you're not using them.

01:03:18.860 None of this does anything, which is why they constantly express these statistics in things

01:03:24.900 like cars taken off the road or, uh, you know, uh, certain amounts of trees.

01:03:31.440 This is the equivalent of planting 4 million trees.

01:03:34.920 You know why they say that though?

01:03:36.180 Because millions sounds high, but it means nothing.

01:03:39.620 Nothing.

01:03:40.740 Are you done?

01:03:41.900 I am done.

01:03:42.320 Now you're going to tell me why little things do make a difference.

01:03:45.020 Little steps.

01:03:46.020 Little steps.

01:03:46.720 I want you to hear me out.

01:03:47.580 Okay.

01:03:48.220 Okay.

01:03:48.760 You sure?

01:03:49.380 Yeah.

01:03:49.600 I owe that to you after you took my, my point very seriously.

01:03:53.020 I did.

01:03:53.420 I did.

01:03:53.820 I listened to the whole thing.

01:03:55.040 It was riveting.

01:03:56.340 So, uh, you have a baby.

01:04:01.160 They come out, they pee and poop all over everything.

01:04:03.800 Yes.

01:04:04.080 They, they do tend to do that.

01:04:05.040 You take the little step of putting a diaper on that child because telling the child, Hey,

01:04:10.840 go to the potty, go, go, go, go into the bathroom and sit on the crapper over there. 0.86

01:04:14.780 Baby doesn't understand it. 0.98

01:04:16.460 So you, you first put the diaper on.

01:04:19.660 Then you, you, you start to potty train them.

01:04:22.820 And after like, I don't know, 14 years, they start to go crap where they're supposed to

01:04:27.400 go crap.

01:04:28.280 But those little steps helped me all the way.

01:04:30.420 So I wasn't cleaning up crap.

01:04:32.300 If I just wanted the big step, I'd have crap all over my house.

01:04:36.660 Yeah.

01:04:37.240 The diaper is not a little step.

01:04:38.740 It's a miracle invention.

01:04:40.220 And let me tell you something else.

01:04:41.780 Big steps are even better when, when they're running to the potty.

01:04:46.780 Big steps are better.

01:04:48.740 Little steps help.

01:04:50.140 Just saying.

01:04:51.400 Did you let, did you let?

01:04:52.600 No, wait a minute.

01:04:53.520 You said you would hear me out.

01:04:54.740 I did.

01:04:55.020 I did.

01:04:56.040 Now all of those diapers are not exactly helping with the planet.

01:04:59.900 No.

01:05:00.100 But that's a completely different story.

01:05:07.940 If you listen to Malcolm Gladwell's podcast, it's really good.

01:05:13.700 It's really good.

01:05:14.220 Revisionist history, especially this last season.

01:05:17.420 I think, I think I told you to listen to one about Brian Williams.

01:05:20.940 Yeah.

01:05:21.020 And usually when you suggest things, I don't listen, but that one was really a good suggestion.

01:05:26.140 It was fascinating because it was sort of a revisiting of the Brian Williams scandal, where

01:05:31.380 if you remember correctly, Brian, there's a liar.

01:05:34.420 He's a liar.

01:05:34.960 And he, because he said he was shot at and his, his helicopter was hit over, over Iraq,

01:05:40.820 I believe in 2003 ish.

01:05:42.720 And, you know, over time he started off telling the story accurately and it sort of meshed into

01:05:47.380 this thing where he was taking credit for this heroic act.

01:05:49.840 He's told the story on Letterman and in the end lost his job and his credibility over

01:05:54.540 it and Gladwell's case.

01:05:56.740 And it's backed up by a lot of science, which was pretty interesting, is that we as humans

01:06:03.500 believe our memories are perfect video captures of a moment and science and study after study

01:06:11.400 after study shows this, that it's not that we actually screw these things up all the

01:06:16.120 time.

01:06:16.500 And the way they quickly, they use these things called flashbulb moments.

01:06:19.940 So like 9-11 is a flashbulb moment.

01:06:21.500 We all remember where we were on 9-11 and scientists, because, you know, they're nerds

01:06:25.420 and they're using us for their own purposes.

01:06:27.080 Every, every time one of these things happen, they do a study called a flashbulb moment study

01:06:31.480 and they'll go and interview all these people about what they were doing at that moment.

01:06:35.540 So right after 9-11, and there's many examples of this, they go and they talk to people and

01:06:39.880 they say, what were you doing at this moment?

01:06:41.300 And they have them write it down in their own handwriting, their exact memories of what they

01:06:44.700 were doing.

01:06:45.340 Then they go back to them five and 10 years later and say, what were you doing on 9-11 without

01:06:49.700 showing them the piece of paper?

01:06:51.500 They recount their memories and then they compare them to what they wrote down and they're in

01:06:56.120 different places.

01:06:56.900 They were on the phone instead of in person.

01:06:58.300 And people are saying, all sorts of major differences.

01:06:59.800 And people will say, I don't know why I wrote that 10 years ago, because that's not true.

01:07:04.560 I don't know why I would lie.

01:07:06.100 And the researchers are like, okay, so you thought you lied at that point?

01:07:09.600 I must have, because I was not there.

01:07:11.960 Yeah, and they came up with, the number was 60% of the details of the memories were misremembered

01:07:19.760 in the future.

01:07:20.780 Isn't that crazy?

01:07:21.060 People actually, over time, sort of build these things, these stories in their head, and they

01:07:27.360 start to believe them.

01:07:29.260 It's not necessarily a lie because they are trying to better their situation.

01:07:35.500 It is a mistelling of the truth because our memory screws with us over a long period of

01:07:40.720 time.

01:07:40.840 It is really one of the underlying principles of my book that I think, you know, will not

01:07:48.280 be necessarily understood in just a quick read.

01:07:53.760 And that is arrogance.

01:07:56.120 Arrogance leads us to believe that we are right and everything we believe is right.

01:08:02.940 I believe in the same stuff I've always believed.

01:08:05.860 I believe that the Bill of Rights, the Constitution in America is good.

01:08:12.420 But by focusing on that, you stop listening to what other people are saying.

01:08:19.780 And because they have nothing to teach you, they're just wrong.

01:08:23.540 And if you start to listen to them, you can start to say, oh, oh, oh, wait, I see what

01:08:30.200 you're saying here.

01:08:31.240 Okay.

01:08:31.900 You're focused on this.

01:08:33.540 I got, okay.

01:08:34.240 You're right about that.

01:08:35.960 You're right.

01:08:36.480 However, come with me.

01:08:38.700 But because they're not listening to you, you're not listening to them.

01:08:42.360 Nobody says, oh, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:08:45.520 Yes, you're right about that.

01:08:47.140 How many times have you done that in real life where you have to get through an argument

01:08:50.840 and you're like, oh, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:08:54.040 Okay.

01:08:54.340 Yes, you're right about that.

01:08:55.940 But that's not what I'm talking about.

01:08:58.160 That's not happening in our society because everyone's treating each other like an enemy.

01:09:02.920 Everyone says you're lying.

01:09:04.920 Here's a case of Brian Williams who everybody said he was lying where science is showing.

01:09:10.240 No, no, no.

01:09:10.780 Even your memory is 60% wrong.

01:09:15.780 That's pretty remarkable.

01:09:19.240 Humility.

01:09:20.480 Humility is the key to what we're facing.

01:09:24.340 Glenn Beck.

01:09:31.460 All right.

01:09:31.980 Today's segment of postmodern geometry, the hashtag me to dilemma.

01:09:37.620 Here is the problem of the day.

01:09:40.380 We have a lesbian humanities professor at a elite university who is sexually harassing a gay male student.

01:09:50.580 Who is the victim?

01:09:51.740 You don't need that much time, right?

01:09:56.480 Of course.

01:09:57.440 It's the professor.

01:09:59.400 Her name is Avital Ronell.

01:10:01.980 She's 66 years old, professor of German and comparative literature at New York University.

01:10:06.740 She apparently is the real victim, even though she allegedly sexually harassed a former student.

01:10:13.380 The New York Times wrote about the whole ordeal in an article titled What Happens to Hashtag Me Too When a Feminist is Accused? 1.00

01:10:20.820 Well, we all know the feminist is in the right. 1.00

01:10:25.820 Ronell, quite publicly, has been accused of sexually harassing Nimrod Reitman, 34 years old, graduate student and currently a visiting fellow at Harvard.

01:10:36.800 Now, Ronell is an, you know, an academic rock star, as one colleague described him, one of the very few philosopher stars of the world.

01:10:45.280 But the investigation concluded that the teacher, the professor, was the one responsible for sexual harassment, both physical and verbal, to the extent that her behavior was sufficiently pervasive to alter the terms and conditions of the student's learning environment.

01:11:05.240 So, she was suspended.

01:11:09.620 The accusations.

01:11:12.240 Reitman's claim that before the school year in 2012, Ronell invited him to stay with her parents in Paris for a few days.

01:11:22.560 The day he arrived, she asked him to read poetry to her in her bedroom while she took an afternoon nap.

01:11:31.180 He said, that was a red flag.

01:11:33.840 But I also thought, OK, you're here.

01:11:38.040 Let's not make a scene.

01:11:40.000 Then, he said, she pulled him into her bed.

01:11:43.480 She put my hands onto her breast and she was pressing herself, her buttocks, onto my crotch. 1.00

01:11:50.400 She was kissing me, kissing my hands, kissing my torso. 0.64

01:11:53.520 That evening, a similar scene played out again, he said.

01:11:57.660 From emails that he produced.

01:11:59.900 I woke up with a slight fever and a sore throat.

01:12:02.760 I'll try very hard not to kiss you until the throat situation receives security clearance.

01:12:08.360 This is not an easy deferral.

01:12:10.660 Another email.

01:12:11.940 Time for your midday kiss.

01:12:13.700 My image during meditation.

01:12:15.620 We're on the sofa, your head on my lap, stroking your forehead, playing softly with your hair, soothing you.

01:12:21.660 Headache gone yet?

01:12:23.420 Yes.

01:12:23.860 Most starting startingly is the one from 50 of her colleagues, all the educators from around the globe.

01:12:34.120 Quote, although we have no access to the confidential dossier, we have worked many years in close proximity to the professor and have accumulated collectively years of experience to support our view of her capacity as a teacher and a scholar.

01:12:48.780 But also someone who has served as a chair of both the departments of German and comparative literature at New York University.

01:12:55.300 We've all seen her relationship with students.

01:12:57.360 And some of us know the individual who has waged this malicious campaign against her.

01:13:02.820 End quote.

01:13:03.100 So the student has been expelled.

01:13:06.820 The professor is fine.

01:13:09.580 Now.

01:13:11.240 Want to take a guess where she stands on Trump?

01:13:16.500 She didn't like Donald Trump.

01:13:18.040 She says, I take it as a regular rigorously necessary that Trump's mouth hole be the flapping aperture to funnel floods of racially unleashed aggression.

01:13:30.000 The toxic spill of his language, part of the recourse to crucial intersection where Twitter meets.

01:13:40.120 Something else.

01:13:41.040 So here we have somebody who is too important to the cause, sexually assaulting someone, a young gay man, and she gets a pass.

01:13:56.400 Because, well, she's in the right, she's in the right club. 0.99

01:14:00.460 She's absolutely in the right club and she's too important to lose.

01:14:11.040 So, um, we have somebody on the phone and I haven't talked about her yet because I just want to ask her myself one last time before I introduce her.

01:14:24.220 Um, uh, give her the opportunity to back out, um, because I don't think this is going to go well for her career, uh, unless we change her name. 1.00

01:14:34.900 Uh, this is, I mean, this is how crazy things are, uh, have gotten.

01:14:38.000 Uh, can we bring her on real quick?

01:14:39.660 Is she there?

01:14:41.040 Yes, I'm here.

01:14:42.140 Uh, are you sure you want to have this conversation on the air?

01:14:45.000 I know the rules of not saying where you work, but you're willing to put your name out there, which I mean, you know, there's this private eye called Google that will find you quickly.

01:14:53.800 And I don't think this is going to go well for you in the long run.

01:14:56.860 I, I appreciate it.

01:14:58.360 I want to tell your story, but are you sure?

01:15:02.680 I have been praying for a couple of days about it.

01:15:05.500 And I really feel like I'm supposed to be here giving hope to other conservative professors, giving hope to conservative parents who are worried about sending their kids off to college that I'm here to speak truth.

01:15:18.760 But I also need to be respectful of the place that I work and the people I work with.

01:15:23.440 And so it is a very difficult decision.

01:15:26.780 So I agree.

01:15:27.560 You're right.

01:15:27.980 It is a risk.

01:15:28.920 I know you want to give your name, but I'm, I'm not going to give it.

01:15:31.920 If you at some point want to give your name, that's fine.

01:15:34.060 But I, I think you're just, I think that's just opening up a world of hurt that you don't need to go through.

01:15:39.620 Um, you are a psychology professor.

01:15:43.560 Yes.

01:15:44.420 Um, and you, uh, have been an adjunct professor at a, uh, at a good college and you're looking for full-time work and you don't think it's going to happen, uh, because of what colleges are like right now.

01:16:00.780 Do I have that right?

01:16:02.240 Yes, because there's a very clearly documented hiring bias, both an anti-conservative hiring bias and an anti-Christian hiring bias, particularly in the humanities and social sciences, which is where psychology falls.

01:16:15.500 Okay.

01:16:16.680 Um, you, you have been teaching over the past eight years and you have said that there is a, a shift in, in attitude, um, even by the students now.

01:16:30.780 Can you tell me about that?

01:16:32.820 Definitely.

01:16:33.300 Uh, when I first started teaching, it was exactly what I pictured as far as the dynamic between the professor and the students, where there was a clear distinction in roles, there was respect.

01:16:42.620 And over the last, say, three to four years, I've noticed a shift where progressively students are becoming more emboldened.

01:16:50.940 They see a blurring between the lines.

01:16:53.280 There's, um, less respect for me as an authority figure and they feel like they can just challenge me.

01:17:00.240 They rarely do it in class.

01:17:01.880 Most of the time they do it online.

01:17:04.080 So they'll send me an email or they'll post something in the end of class survey, which is supposed to be anonymous.

01:17:09.880 But they're, and some of them have gone to the administration behind my back to try to, you know, complain or what have you, because they feel that I'm too strict or they want to have accommodations where accommodations aren't due.

01:17:23.500 So it's become more of a place of incivility on the students' part.

01:17:28.980 Luckily, I've been able to manage it pretty well.

01:17:31.960 And it hasn't escalated to the point where some professors, say like the professor at Berkeley who had students disrupt the final exam to protest it.

01:17:38.760 Or Brett Weinstein, who had his class, you know, disrupted by protesters.

01:17:42.900 I haven't experienced anything like that.

01:17:44.820 Most of the time, the students are good in the classroom.

01:17:47.020 It's outside of the classroom, especially when they feel emboldened by being able to post online or, you know, do something anonymous.

01:17:54.240 You were teaching an undergraduate course on research methods.

01:17:59.660 And you said, OK, let's look at the campus assault study, the campus climate survey that came out in 2015.

01:18:08.440 And let's look at this.

01:18:11.180 And what did you have the students do?

01:18:12.720 It was the point of the class and the lecture was talking about research validity.

01:18:19.120 So looking at research studies and saying, is this actually valid?

01:18:22.520 Does it does the results indicate what people are saying the results indicate?

01:18:26.760 And I decided to take a risk and be bold and have them analyze the the campus sexual assault study and look to see, one, does it have like can it be generalized?

01:18:38.320 Does it have external validity?

01:18:39.780 And also, does it have internal validity?

01:18:41.840 Do the way that they define the terms hold up to construct validity?

01:18:47.000 And it was amazing to watch the class just become shocked because they've all heard the statistics cited.

01:18:53.100 But when they actually dug into the study, they started to see its limitations very quickly.

01:18:58.180 And to be honest, I've never been more terrified in a class than when I was standing there and openly challenging this study and guiding my students to think critically and analyze what the study actually said.

01:19:11.840 When you say you have never been more terrified, what were you terrified of?

01:19:15.700 I was terrified that I would have a student or students in the class that would react poorly to having that cognitive dissonance because clearly that's what they were experiencing.

01:19:28.380 I was terrified that some would march out of the class and go and tell the administration.

01:19:34.740 And I probably waited about a week or two thinking that the other shoe was going to drop.

01:19:40.640 That somewhere, some way I offended a student that, you know, having their worldview or having this information challenged was going to create enough dissonance that they were going to react negatively.

01:19:51.300 In this instance, it didn't happen, but it's definitely a risk every time I do it.

01:19:56.300 And it wasn't just that one.

01:19:57.440 I also had them challenge the wage gap study.

01:19:59.740 I also had them challenge the climate change study that everybody quotes the 97 percent agree.

01:20:05.160 I took a lot of risks in order to teach my students that they need to think for themselves.

01:20:09.980 They need to actually analyze these studies rather than, you know, citing the talking points that the media and others have pulled from it.

01:20:17.980 When you ask your class for counter arguments to things like microaggression, what happens?

01:20:26.860 Most of the time, they don't understand what I'm saying.

01:20:30.780 They think that there's just one position out there.

01:20:33.860 They've never heard that there's anything else.

01:20:36.280 They've never heard an alternative position.

01:20:38.440 So there was an assignment that I had to use.

01:20:42.160 I didn't have a choice.

01:20:43.380 I couldn't modify it.

01:20:44.240 But there was a question in there about microaggressions.

01:20:46.520 So I told them the way I want you to answer it is to present me both sides.

01:20:50.600 I want you to make an argument that microaggressions exist and are detrimental.

01:20:55.720 And then I want you to make an argument against it.

01:20:58.000 And I had to provide all of the resources for them to make the counter argument because they didn't know that a counter position existed.

01:21:06.220 They had no idea how to start looking for that.

01:21:08.180 It was pretty amazing to see that, that they weren't even aware that there's alternative positions to some of these things that have just been fed to them through their education.

01:21:19.400 So I have found, well, two things.

01:21:23.540 How do we expect to have a free people and a free press if people are being churned out in colleges and universities who don't even know how to look for the other side of the story?

01:21:37.640 But I have found that many times the students are hungry to see the other side.

01:21:47.900 They're excited when they see, wait a minute, I haven't heard that.

01:21:51.500 Even if it doesn't change their mind, they're excited about it.

01:21:55.460 Is that your experience?

01:21:56.640 I would say for the most part that I've seen most students when they get exposed to this information, when they get exposed to alternative, let's say, worldviews, something other than postmodernism, something other than critical theory.

01:22:14.320 When they get exposed to alternatives, it's exciting to see because they realize that they aren't critical theorists.

01:22:22.680 They realize that they aren't postmodernists.

01:22:24.180 They actually do believe in objective reality and objective truth.

01:22:27.600 And there's almost a relief for a lot of them that there's something out there that more closely aligns with the way that they do think or the way that they were raised.

01:22:37.940 But I always have a group in there that resists, that they are just so dead set in what they've been taught that anything that brings that cognitive dissonance, they attack.

01:22:50.800 One of the things I specialize in is actually teaching about marriage and relationships.

01:22:57.160 And so I talk about gender differences, and I always have at least one student who yes buts me all the way through that lecture because they want to deny the fact that there's anything either biologically based or neurologically based that distinguishes the genders and distinguishes how men and women experience life and filter information and how we communicate.

01:23:20.080 Which clearly there is, but I always have somebody in there that will push back.

01:23:25.000 But the majority seems to really, like you said, be excited and hungry for it.

01:23:29.800 In the 1990s, I read a quote from Immanuel Kant, and he said, there are many things that I believe that I shall never say, but I shall never say the things that I do not believe.

01:23:40.880 That terrified me.

01:23:42.040 I couldn't even understand a world where somebody would have to hide what they really believed.

01:23:46.600 I thought, what kind of world and how blessed are we that the world is not that way?

01:23:51.060 We're that way now, aren't we?

01:23:52.220 Definitely.

01:23:53.900 That's at least in the environment in which I work.

01:23:57.020 But I would say also in social media.

01:23:59.000 That's why I've gotten off social media, because that's a risk to my career.

01:24:04.260 That's why I'm very guarded and very calculated about, you know, what I choose to say and bring up in class with my students, but also the way that I conduct myself around colleagues.

01:24:14.560 It's absolutely true.

01:24:15.680 All right.

01:24:16.020 I want to take a quick break and I want to come back and I you found, I think, an unlikely friend, a strange bedfellow that gave you some advice.

01:24:24.740 I want to kind of talk about that when we come back with a professor of psychology that is going to remain nameless.

01:24:34.700 This should tell you where we are as a nation.

01:24:37.640 This person, I think if they gave their name, they would be out by the end of the day.

01:24:42.460 Um, just for saying what she just said to you more in just a second.

01:24:49.020 Glenn Beck.

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01:25:27.740 We're talking to a, uh, a woman who is a, uh, a Christian, a conservative and a university professor.

01:25:34.660 Uh, she is a, uh, uh, uh, an adjunct professor of psychology.

01:25:40.840 Um, and, uh, she currently is working at a, uh, a more conservative or Christian, uh, uh, college.

01:25:49.160 But is, um, looking for, you know, another placement and is little concerned about it.

01:25:55.080 And I have, uh, I am not going to tell you her name.

01:25:58.220 She is more than free to, uh, volunteer that if she wishes.

01:26:01.900 Um, but I think she's incredibly brave for, for coming on the program and saying what it's

01:26:05.780 really like, um, in the university, uh, system.

01:26:09.480 Especially if you're a teacher.

01:26:11.420 And you mentioned, uh, postmodern, postmodernism earlier and how students, uh, don't react,

01:26:17.020 uh, positively to it when given an alternative.

01:26:20.460 Um, and I think, isn't that though, the, the reason why you're not going to be allowed to

01:26:26.040 succeed as a professor?

01:26:27.180 Because if they're, the whole premise of postmodernism is that there can't be another option because

01:26:32.580 if there's another option, I mean, human beings are going to go towards an objective truth.

01:26:37.680 Yes, definitely.

01:26:40.380 And that is something that I'm mindful of, but I feel that that's why I'm there.

01:26:45.560 I feel like I'm called into this to be a light in the darkness and I present alternatives,

01:26:51.900 but I do not proselytize.

01:26:53.980 I do not indoctrinate students to my way of thinking, like some of my colleagues may be

01:26:59.500 doing to their way of thinking.

01:27:01.020 I feel that that is why I'm here.

01:27:03.620 That's my, my motivation.

01:27:04.780 So that's why I take those risks is if I didn't take those risks, I wouldn't be fulfilling

01:27:09.540 my purpose.

01:27:10.740 I will tell you the best professors, um, that I've ever had, best teachers I've ever had

01:27:15.040 were ones where I didn't know their opinion.

01:27:17.060 I had no idea.

01:27:18.180 I would think they're arguing this so hard.

01:27:20.640 This is clearly their opinion.

01:27:21.940 And then they would flip and all of a sudden they'd be arguing so hard.

01:27:26.320 You're like, wait a minute.

01:27:27.120 I thought you believed.

01:27:28.360 No, they never said that.

01:27:29.720 They're just arguing, showing you both sides and pushing you up against the wall on both

01:27:34.480 sides.

01:27:34.980 I think though, I think that is the way education should be.

01:27:38.300 I agree.

01:27:39.120 And that's exactly how I try to approach it.

01:27:41.000 So you, um, uh, you, you met with, uh, Eric, uh, Weinstein, uh, Stein and, um, and he was

01:27:52.100 from Evergreen college.

01:27:53.260 And if people don't know what he went through, uh, he is a, he's not a guy who's actually,

01:28:00.260 you know, probably agrees with you on very much, uh, personally.

01:28:04.340 Um, but he was pushed up at Evergreen college, which is more radical than Berkeley and went

01:28:11.420 through hell.

01:28:12.220 I'd like you to talk about, um, meeting with him and what you guys talked about and, and

01:28:19.700 how that all went, what advice he gave to you when we come back.

01:28:27.920 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

01:28:31.580 Uh, we're talking to an adjunct professor of psychology who will remain nameless, uh,

01:28:37.600 and, uh, we're not going to say where she works either, uh, due to fear of, uh, reprisals.

01:28:43.400 Um, she'd like to have a job, uh, but she is, uh, she's talking about what it's like to be

01:28:48.760 a conservative and a, uh, and a Christian and a professor at the same time.

01:28:53.940 Those things don't seem to be go hand in hand anymore.

01:28:57.020 Uh, and, uh, and now, you know why she's not going to be, uh, 1.00

01:29:01.560 named here, um, you, when you started, um, looking for another job, uh, and you realized

01:29:10.700 I'm, everything is a trigger.

01:29:14.220 Everything on my resume is a trigger to say no to, um, you actually sought out and, and

01:29:21.400 met, uh, Eric Weinstein.

01:29:24.340 Can you tell me a little bit about that?

01:29:26.820 Yeah.

01:29:27.300 So I'm, I met Eric Weinstein.

01:29:28.980 He's actually Brett Weinstein's brother.

01:29:30.860 They're both a part of the intellectual dark web.

01:29:32.920 Brett's the one that was evergreen, whereas Eric is a mathematician and economist, but he's

01:29:37.360 also very much a part of academia.

01:29:40.100 Thank you.

01:29:40.500 And I got to briefly encounter him a couple of months ago and I decided to ask for his

01:29:45.540 advice because yes, I am preparing to start looking for full-time employment and my resume

01:29:51.100 screams Christian. 0.96

01:29:52.040 You can't hide it.

01:29:53.720 And I brought that up to him.

01:29:55.260 I said, I'm a conservative.

01:29:56.260 I'm a Christian.

01:29:57.140 I teach in psychology.

01:29:58.000 I'm looking for full-time work.

01:29:59.200 Do you have any advice for me?

01:30:00.800 And he said, you definitely have two strikes against you.

01:30:03.720 He goes, I'm not going to lie.

01:30:04.760 You have two strikes against you.

01:30:06.640 The only way that you're going to find full-time employment is you're going to have to find

01:30:11.480 something and make it your thing.

01:30:13.260 And I told him about my approach to teaching, uh, that I try to be balanced.

01:30:17.660 I try to present both sides.

01:30:18.940 I focus on critical thinking and analysis and he goes, then that's it.

01:30:22.360 Make that your thing.

01:30:23.840 You're going to basically have to market yourself as, you know, this particular approach in order

01:30:29.660 to stand out.

01:30:30.500 But he, he very much confirmed my fears that it's, those are two strikes against me.

01:30:36.040 And then I'm, I'm, I have an uphill climb in order to find full-time employment.

01:30:40.200 What did you think when you saw what his brother went through at Evergreen?

01:30:42.880 It was scary because if you recall, that was the same time period that Milo Yiannopoulos

01:30:50.180 experienced the protesters at Berkeley.

01:30:52.020 So it was almost like this weird moment in history where the shift was very obvious and

01:30:58.000 very clear.

01:30:58.560 And it was happening at two different universities where these students felt so emboldened that

01:31:03.360 they could behave this way.

01:31:05.540 I mean, they held, they held him against his will in the library for several hours for

01:31:10.380 a mock trial.

01:31:12.320 And several of the professors that were there were almost testifying against him in this,

01:31:18.660 in this kangaroo court.

01:31:19.980 I mean, it's bizarre.

01:31:22.160 Yes.

01:31:22.440 And those same students, um, held the, I think it was either the Dean or the president of the

01:31:27.520 university held hostage, wouldn't even let him go to the restroom by himself. 0.55

01:31:30.620 And then the security on campus told Brett Weinstein, don't come to campus because they're

01:31:36.180 going car by car looking for you.

01:31:38.620 It was insane to, and this is not a big university.

01:31:42.220 That's actually a pretty small college in Washington.

01:31:44.980 And the idea that, that students were getting away with this behavior, uh, it definitely is,

01:31:50.840 is scary to, to think about what might happen because he's actually a liberal.

01:31:55.560 He's, he still says he's a liberal.

01:31:57.220 He's a, he's an evolutionary scientist.

01:32:00.340 There's like very little, uh, common ground here with most conservatives.

01:32:05.220 He is a, you know, he's a diehard liberal, but he's a classical liberal that says, I want

01:32:11.640 stats.

01:32:12.360 I want proof.

01:32:13.620 I, I, you know, let's, let's use the age of enlightenment, but that is what postmodernism

01:32:19.440 and, and I think universities are trying to crush right now is the, the, the modern world,

01:32:25.540 the, the world that was created through the enlightenment.

01:32:29.440 Definitely.

01:32:30.260 And that's something that I've heard both Brett and Eric Weinstein talk about is that

01:32:35.040 they are against postmodern thinking as well.

01:32:38.560 And that's where we find alignment is even though politically we may diverge, they're both

01:32:44.260 atheists.

01:32:44.780 I'm a Christian, but yet we've aligned on this common cause of saying, hold on a second.

01:32:50.060 You don't get to just redefine reality.

01:32:52.760 You don't get to just redefine language.

01:32:55.020 You don't get to personally choose what is truth and what is not.

01:32:58.520 He was one of the most popular professors at Evergreen.

01:33:02.120 Everybody loved him.

01:33:03.060 Highest, highest marks from students.

01:33:05.180 But because he said, wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:33:07.580 I'm, I'm a scientist and X and Y mean something.

01:33:12.440 There's an X chromosome, a Y chromosome.

01:33:14.400 Uh, it doesn't mean that you deny that it doesn't mean that I now have to go in with

01:33:20.920 your delusion.

01:33:21.840 There's an X and Y let's talk science that made him have to have police protection and

01:33:27.760 actually start to teach his class out in the public square because they said, we're not

01:33:32.680 going to be able to protect you in the university.

01:33:34.900 It's crazy.

01:33:35.680 It is.

01:33:36.960 And it's, it's absolutely terrifying.

01:33:38.740 And that's why at the university I'm at right now, it seems like the students are pretty

01:33:43.280 evenly divided.

01:33:44.500 So it doesn't seem like I'd be overwhelmed like I would at a more liberal college like

01:33:50.060 that.

01:33:50.460 But when I'm going to apply at other universities, I don't know what kind of climate is there.

01:33:56.020 And one of the things that I've been thinking about is it's not just a question of, well,

01:34:00.620 they even call me for an interview.

01:34:02.200 Like, will I even get hired?

01:34:03.520 But if they do, do I even want to work there?

01:34:06.580 Because, you know, less than 8% of psychology professors identify as conservative.

01:34:11.840 And many universities don't have a single conservative on staff, period.

01:34:15.880 So that's another thing I have to think about is not just, well, they hire me, but is that

01:34:21.160 an environment that I'm going to even be able to be successful?

01:34:24.880 Am I going to be able to even teach?

01:34:27.000 Do you know who David Glertner is?

01:34:29.180 No, I've not heard that name.

01:34:30.160 David Glertner was actually the first guy the Unabomber tried to kill.

01:34:34.120 He lives in an awful lot of pain now.

01:34:37.480 He survived.

01:34:38.940 He is a futurist, but he is also the son of a rabbi, deeply religious.

01:34:44.000 He is a math professor.

01:34:45.640 He won.

01:34:46.480 I don't remember what he invented, but he invented, you know, I don't know, the cursor

01:34:50.420 or something for Apple.

01:34:52.840 They took that technology and made it theirs.

01:34:55.620 He sued them.

01:34:56.320 I think he won like half a billion dollars in a lawsuit.

01:34:58.860 The guy's an absolute genius, but is very concerned about the universities.

01:35:03.820 He's at Yale now, not real popular on campus.

01:35:07.620 I think he is with the students because he's so smart.

01:35:10.020 But we have talked before about the university system is coming apart.

01:35:16.220 It's just it's just not going to be there, you know, 10 years of the way it is now.

01:35:19.980 It won't work.

01:35:21.680 And being able to do things online.

01:35:25.000 Have you thought about doing a class online?

01:35:29.200 I have been asked to do classes online and I've tried it.

01:35:33.600 The problem with being a professor online, at least with the way that it's been given

01:35:39.620 to me by this university, I don't know how other universities do it, is I basically just

01:35:44.580 grade.

01:35:45.320 There's no lecture.

01:35:46.660 There's no lesson.

01:35:47.880 They're given a textbook to read.

01:35:49.980 They're given assignments to do.

01:35:51.400 And then I just show up and grade.

01:35:53.280 And that's frustrating because then there's no teaching.

01:35:56.940 Yeah, no, that's not the A.

01:35:59.100 May I put you in touch with David Glertner?

01:36:01.840 Because you should talk to him.

01:36:04.340 He might be able to advise you.

01:36:06.560 Or maybe I'll ask him and see if he'll come on and the two of you can have a conversation.

01:36:10.900 So I think it would be helpful for a lot of people who are in your situation, whether

01:36:14.000 they're at a university level or not, just trying to find their way through this madness

01:36:17.940 of this world and how to navigate it.

01:36:22.320 Definitely.

01:36:23.000 Great.

01:36:23.380 That sounds great.

01:36:24.260 Going to give you another chance.

01:36:25.900 I suggest you don't take it.

01:36:27.480 But if you wanted to introduce yourself, you may.

01:36:31.020 To be honest, it's a really big risk to do that.

01:36:33.560 And like you said, that Google machine is pretty powerful.

01:36:36.160 That's fine.

01:36:36.840 I just wanted to give you the opportunity.

01:36:39.720 I applaud you for not taking it.

01:36:41.920 Thank you so much.

01:36:43.040 And we'll be in touch.

01:36:44.360 God bless.

01:36:44.880 Thank you.

01:36:45.260 You bet.

01:36:45.520 I cannot believe the world we live in now.

01:36:52.160 It's the Immanuel Kant thing you were talking about earlier.

01:36:56.840 You know, I mean, it's really in a time where you can't stand up as a person and say the

01:37:02.860 things you believe.

01:37:03.380 And how many of us are really saying the things that we believe?

01:37:08.520 I mean, that's see, that's my problem with today's society is.

01:37:12.060 Have you really thought all this stuff through?

01:37:16.580 Are you really that sure?

01:37:19.480 Are the things that you're saying?

01:37:22.160 Let me say it.

01:37:22.960 Let me say it this way.

01:37:23.760 Um, I remember when I had to go on tour for the Christmas sweater, uh, and that was the

01:37:30.260 hardest thing I've ever done because it was a personal story.

01:37:33.060 I remember that of my, of my mother's death and you were a wreck.

01:37:37.620 I was a wreck.

01:37:38.340 Yes.

01:37:38.580 It was horrible.

01:37:39.580 What you didn't know at the same time that that was happening, I was under the, um, the

01:37:46.320 first real active death threats that I had.

01:37:50.540 Um, I had still working at CNN and I had, uh, these nine 11 truthers. 1.00

01:37:56.820 Thank you, Alex Jones, um, coming after me and saying that I was the coverup guy.

01:38:02.900 I was the CIA operative and the coverup guy, uh, for, uh, nine 11.

01:38:08.900 And, uh, they were threatening us.

01:38:11.160 We actually had one of our tour buses run off the road.

01:38:13.880 We had to switch tour buses all the time.

01:38:16.260 Um, so nobody knew which one I was in.

01:38:18.940 Um, and luckily the one that I wasn't in, uh, was run off the road.

01:38:24.720 Uh, I had a guy come up into me, uh, online.

01:38:27.980 The, the key words were all traitors.

01:38:31.540 What was it?

01:38:32.200 All traitors will be eliminated.

01:38:33.480 I think.

01:38:34.840 Um, and, uh, I had to go into crowds every single day and, um, knowing that there was somebody

01:38:43.160 in there that probably wanted to kill me and a guy came up and I, every spider sense in

01:38:49.060 me just went off and it was like this guy, this guy, this guy, my security felt it too.

01:38:53.060 They came right to my side and I'm like, I'm not going to be afraid.

01:38:56.540 I am going to shake his hand and wish him Merry Christmas.

01:39:00.080 And I stuck my hand out and I said, Merry Christmas.

01:39:02.980 And he had his hands in his pockets and he said, all traitors must be.

01:39:07.580 And he started to take his hand out of his pocket and he was on the ground before he knew

01:39:11.180 it.

01:39:12.120 Uh, and I remember, I remember sitting in the back of the tour bus.

01:39:17.800 And saying, I will not die for the things that I do not believe.

01:39:25.340 I will not die for stupid stuff.

01:39:28.980 Uh, because I said something and I was, you know, just going off half cocked or it was funny.

01:39:34.780 I am not going to die for that.

01:39:37.420 What is it that you're worth, it's worth dying for.

01:39:41.840 And I got through that time by imagining the worst thing that could happen.

01:39:49.840 And to me, the worst thing that could happen, I envisioned myself on the sidewalk, knowing

01:39:56.940 that that was the last few moments I had and I was nowhere near my family and I would

01:40:03.500 never be able to say goodbye to them.

01:40:06.060 And I imagined the worst thing.

01:40:08.660 So then I wasn't afraid of it anymore.

01:40:10.840 Um, strangely for me, I don't know if that's the healthy thing to do or not, but strangely

01:40:15.640 for me, it worked that and a pact with myself.

01:40:19.880 Don't say anything that you don't believe.

01:40:22.880 Um, how many of us have done that?

01:40:26.620 How many of us have had to, our last guess probably has not die, but not be able to work

01:40:32.680 again.

01:40:34.420 We're, we're entering the time that I have warned about for so long.

01:40:38.800 Um, and I've, I've told you, you're going to be mad.

01:40:42.800 You're going to be angry.

01:40:43.660 There are people that want to take you to that anger and have you express that anger and it

01:40:49.300 will be the wrong direction.

01:40:50.620 We are, we are encouraged now to embrace our outrage.

01:40:56.920 We are encouraged to just ratchet it up, say it back.

01:41:00.780 I'm tired of people saying and just taking the punch.

01:41:03.400 I'm telling you that is the wrong direction.

01:41:06.240 The right direction is to take a moment before you go online.

01:41:11.820 And I don't know if you can do this without the real threat, but that threat will come

01:41:18.520 to you.

01:41:20.940 And before you go online, before you start to have a conversation, ask yourself, am I willing

01:41:27.840 to literally fight over this?

01:41:30.340 Am I willing to literally be beaten in the streets for this?

01:41:34.700 Am I willing to never be able to work again for this?

01:41:38.480 Am I willing to die for what I'm about to say?

01:41:45.360 If you take that attitude and you couple it with courage that you will say the things that

01:41:55.680 you believe, we'll be able to back away from the edge and the precipice and we'll be able

01:42:03.920 to save the rights of all mankind, even those we vehemently disagree with.

01:42:13.420 So yesterday I got on my wife's, what is it, a Peloton bike?

01:42:17.980 Oh no.

01:42:18.800 Oh good God.

01:42:19.400 Good God.

01:42:20.760 First of all, stop with the clips on the shoes and everything else.

01:42:25.200 What a scam this whole thing is.

01:42:26.580 That's just to make you buy the shoes.

01:42:27.960 Just make you buy the shoes.

01:42:29.100 That's it.

01:42:30.220 Yeah.

01:42:30.420 Well, I'm afraid my feet are going to fly off.

01:42:32.520 No, my feet have never flown off any bike in my life.

01:42:35.820 I'm, I'm, I'm possible you're not using it at the highest level.

01:42:39.080 I'm going to, I'm going to throw that out there that maybe, well, here's an idea.

01:42:42.000 Then make it so I could use it at the lowest level and the highest level.

01:42:46.240 So you don't have to have the stupid clips.

01:42:50.460 What a ridiculous, it's a scam.

01:42:53.580 The thing I love about that bike, because we have, we have one as well, is it's like

01:42:57.380 $2,000 for this bike that you buy.

01:43:01.700 And you know, my wife had to have it. 0.56

01:43:04.380 And then what they do, the reason why it's a, whatever it is, $2,000 bike is because it's

01:43:08.460 got this giant screen on it.

01:43:10.280 And you can't watch TV on it.

01:43:11.740 You can't watch TV.

01:43:12.400 You got to watch their classes.

01:43:13.560 I don't want to watch their classes, by the way, they charge you $34.95 a month to access.

01:43:19.820 It's incredible.

01:43:21.160 Wait, I'm paying.

01:43:22.140 You're paying monthly for that thing too.

01:43:23.960 After you pay the thousands of dollars, it is a fantastic business.

01:43:28.080 It's a scam.

01:43:29.360 I was riding that bike.

01:43:30.700 I was just getting more and more pissed off at it.

01:43:32.420 I'm in capitalistic awe of that company.

01:43:35.640 And by the way, can I just ask a question?

01:43:37.680 I know this dates me, but when the hell did, when did, when, when, when did riding a bike

01:43:42.820 become spinning?

01:43:44.780 You, I mean, as of four minutes ago, I had no idea.

01:43:48.380 I had no idea.

01:43:48.900 People say I'm going to a spinning class.

01:43:50.700 I don't know.

01:43:51.180 You have plates on a stick or something.

01:43:52.880 I don't know what the hell you're doing.

01:43:54.240 I don't care.

01:43:55.080 I'm never going to go.

01:43:56.240 What a stunner. 0.94

01:43:57.160 You brought it to things in the kitchen.

01:43:59.180 Right.

01:44:00.360 No, you're, you're legitimately that far away from gym culture.

01:44:03.520 I am that far away.

01:44:05.060 This is not a new development.

01:44:06.160 No, I know it's not a new development, but it's a stupid development.

01:44:08.960 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

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