The Glenn Beck Program - The Best of the Glenn Beck Program

00:00:00.000 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:00:06.640 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:00:10.180 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:00:13.000 It is a good thing that we keep record of all of our shows, that we have archives.

00:00:18.600 That's true. It's a big one.

00:00:19.700 When you say something and later on we need to kind of check on its accuracy,

00:00:23.900 it's always good to make sure we have the archives.

00:00:25.460 Ten years ago, ten years ago, I said something, and it has come true.

00:00:32.280 And it's pretty stunning.

00:00:33.960 One of the most surprising examples.

00:00:35.640 Yeah, and we will give that to you next.

00:00:42.600 Ten years ago.

00:00:44.760 Ten years ago on this program, I made a mocking prediction

00:00:50.640 and said, you know, I'll tell you what the left should be upset about.

00:00:59.000 It's a song.

00:01:00.360 And I laid out the case ten years ago.

00:01:06.880 And while I've taken it a couple of steps further than they are currently,

00:01:13.560 remember, this was comedy.

00:01:16.900 This was insane ten years ago.

00:01:19.980 Now, listen.

00:01:29.800 But baby, it's cold outside.

00:01:33.200 But baby, it's cold outside.

00:01:36.480 See, maybe this is just the...

00:01:37.980 Ben Hovind at you dropping.

00:01:40.340 Maybe this is just the negative side of me.

00:01:43.220 I hold your hands that are just like ice.

00:01:46.680 Beautiful, what's your...

00:01:48.480 But I think this...

00:01:49.540 You know, I use it.

00:01:50.400 Listen to the fireplace.

00:01:51.900 Stop this song for a second.

00:01:53.520 You know, maybe it's just me.

00:01:54.660 But I mean, this has always seemed like, oh, it's kind of cute.

00:01:57.760 But then I heard it done by Dean Martin.

00:01:59.760 And Dean Martin, you know, you couldn't trust.

00:02:02.040 I mean, he was a friend of Frank Sinatra.

00:02:04.140 You know what I'm saying?

00:02:06.220 Unions.

00:02:06.580 So then I hear it from Dean Martin.

00:02:12.860 And I think there's something here.

00:02:16.480 There's something much deeper than this.

00:02:18.420 In fact, go back to the beginning.

00:02:19.720 I just want you to listen to the words.

00:02:22.880 And now it seems like, oh, it's almost like a Rankin and Bass Christmas cartoon.

00:02:27.900 But baby, it's cold outside.

00:02:32.740 But baby, it's cold outside.

00:02:34.960 Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:02:36.440 First, she says, I really can't stay.

00:02:38.660 And he says, but baby, it's cold outside.

00:02:42.360 All right.

00:02:42.760 So what I'm...

00:02:43.740 If I may.

00:02:45.880 In other words, what he's saying is, guess what, skank?

00:02:49.240 Put out or I'm going to leave you stranded in sub-zero temperatures.

00:02:51.960 You know what I mean?

00:02:52.560 It's cold outside.

00:02:53.460 Now, you might think that's a little dramatic.

00:02:56.960 You know, right now.

00:02:59.100 But may I lay the rest of the song out to provide some context.

00:03:04.740 Go ahead.

00:03:10.620 Okay, okay, okay.

00:03:11.780 Now, here she's saying, I really can't stay.

00:03:13.640 She's trying to politely get out of there.

00:03:15.840 I got to go away.

00:03:17.360 You know, that's what she says.

00:03:18.300 I got to go away.

00:03:19.840 When was the last time you said, I got to go away?

00:03:22.720 To somebody who is, hey, no, you can just stay with me.

00:03:25.980 I got to go away.

00:03:27.080 You don't say, I got to go away.

00:03:30.560 And she says, the evening's been so very, very nice.

00:03:34.620 She's trying to act like nothing's wrong and excuse herself.

00:03:39.340 Right?

00:03:40.760 I got to go away.

00:03:42.860 The evening's been very, very nice.

00:03:45.880 And then what does he tell her he's going to do?

00:03:48.340 Listen to this.

00:03:49.020 I'm hoping that you drop in.

00:03:52.280 I'll hold your hands.

00:03:55.380 They're just like ice.

00:03:57.060 Stop.

00:03:57.500 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:03:59.120 Holding your hand, that's a sign of affection, right?

00:04:03.720 Holding your hands, that's restraint.

00:04:08.080 That's a form of imprisonment.

00:04:11.800 Then she says.

00:04:13.560 They're just like ice.

00:04:17.060 Beautiful.

00:04:18.000 Watch your hand.

00:04:20.660 Listen to this.

00:04:21.500 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:04:23.100 She says, my mother will start to worry and my father will be pacing the floor,

00:04:28.440 which is exactly the thing that a hostage says.

00:04:31.420 If my contact doesn't hear from me, they're going to come looking.

00:04:34.440 And then what does he say in response?

00:04:37.000 Listen to this.

00:04:39.900 Listen to the fireplace roar.

00:04:42.620 Stop.

00:04:44.220 See what I'm saying?

00:04:46.800 You didn't catch it?

00:04:48.200 Let me tell you something.

00:04:48.980 You're never going to work for the FBI unless you follow along.

00:04:52.380 You've got a hostage situation.

00:04:54.260 He's holding her hands.

00:04:56.160 She's saying, somebody's going to come for me.

00:04:59.420 They know where I am.

00:05:00.360 And then he says, listen to the fireplace roar.

00:05:04.680 In other words, I'll burn you alive if you don't stay and put out.

00:05:10.160 That's what I'm hearing here.

00:05:13.120 Oh, how did we miss this our whole life?

00:05:15.100 Then she decides it's escalating too fast.

00:05:19.160 Listen to what she says.

00:05:19.880 To the fireplace roar.

00:05:23.380 Beautiful, please don't hurry.

00:05:26.800 Put some records on while I pour.

00:05:29.860 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:05:31.200 So she decides it's escalating out of control.

00:05:34.020 Well, well, give me maybe just one more drink.

00:05:40.500 Just one more drink.

00:05:41.460 And then he distracts her.

00:05:42.980 He says, you put on some records.

00:05:45.140 First of all, who plays records anymore?

00:05:47.580 Serial killers.

00:05:50.280 She says, oh, okay, maybe half a drink more.

00:05:54.380 Maybe just half a drink.

00:05:55.920 And he says, yeah, put on some of those records while I pour.

00:06:00.620 So now, he's set up to pour the drink while her attention is elsewhere.

00:06:07.420 What does he do?

00:06:09.040 He drugs the drinks.

00:06:11.280 Hello?

00:06:12.940 As evidenced by what she says next.

00:06:16.340 Put some records on while I pour.

00:06:19.240 Baby, it's bad out there.

00:06:22.800 No caps to be had.

00:06:24.380 Stop, stop, there it is, your honor.

00:06:26.360 Say, what's in this drink?

00:06:30.620 Then she says, but no caps to be had out there.

00:06:36.740 Your eyes are like starlight.

00:06:38.760 I wish I knew how.

00:06:40.540 To break this spell.

00:06:43.460 I wish I...

00:06:44.180 Say, what's in this drink?

00:06:46.820 I wish I knew how to break this spell.

00:06:50.720 In other words...

00:06:51.420 I think I just ingested a date rape drug.

00:06:55.920 Oh, I'd like to stop the effects now.

00:06:58.960 He's going to burn me to death.

00:07:02.540 Mom, Dad.

00:07:04.700 In the middle of it, he says...

00:07:08.080 Like that.

00:07:08.580 I'll take your hat.

00:07:12.120 Your hair looks swell.

00:07:15.000 Okay.

00:07:15.740 All right.

00:07:16.180 All right.

00:07:16.580 He says, your eyes are like starlight now.

00:07:19.560 Clearly the effects of GHB kicking in now.

00:07:22.340 And then he says, I'm going to take your hat.

00:07:25.960 Yes.

00:07:26.920 At her most vulnerable moment, he begins to take her clothes off.

00:07:31.660 Then she says, I ought to say no, no, no, but she can't.

00:07:40.560 Why?

00:07:41.160 Because she's basically paralyzed now, laying next to the fire where she's terrified he's

00:07:47.200 going to burn her to death.

00:07:48.680 And he mockingly says, mind if I move in close?

00:07:53.180 No.

00:07:53.420 This is a horror movie.

00:07:55.280 Knowing she can't resist, she takes solace in the fact that she at least has tried to

00:08:02.560 stop his advances.

00:08:05.540 And then he says...

00:08:07.780 Take your hat.

00:08:09.200 Your hair looks swell.

00:08:12.340 I know, but I can't.

00:08:14.620 I try.

00:08:16.100 At least I try.

00:08:18.980 I try.

00:08:20.100 Hold on.

00:08:20.980 Baby, it's cold outside.

00:08:23.980 Okay, look, I mean, the song, stop it.

00:08:26.180 We should never play this again.

00:08:28.140 It is, it's the nightmare before Christmas.

00:08:32.460 You know, it just goes on and on and on.

00:08:35.340 You know, I simply must go.

00:08:36.980 The clear answer is no.

00:08:38.900 Yet he keeps coming and coming and coming.

00:08:42.120 You know what this is?

00:08:43.160 This is the story of the guy that dogged the bounty hunter arrested in Mexico.

00:08:50.920 Oh, the welcome has been so nice and warm.

00:08:53.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:55.800 That warmth is, you know, the warmth that GHB induces.

00:08:59.440 You see what I'm saying?

00:09:00.580 Your lips look delicious.

00:09:02.580 Oh, I bet they do.

00:09:04.860 Hannibal the cannibal.

00:09:09.980 I get it.

00:09:11.960 Put out or you're going to find yourself in an icy grave.

00:09:15.800 Merry Christmas.

00:09:17.260 Is that true?

00:09:19.640 That's amazing.

00:09:20.640 Is it just me?

00:09:21.560 That is 10 years ago.

00:09:22.940 It was, I think, just me 10 years ago.

00:09:25.140 It was, and now it's not.

00:09:26.500 And that was, that was something that, that was something that was a comedic observation 10 years ago.

00:09:34.880 Yeah, it was, I mean, you'd never think we'd get to that ridiculous point.

00:09:39.720 Now, this is why there is no comedy anymore.

00:09:43.900 Because the things that are funny, you have to take it to the extreme.

00:09:48.840 How do you take America to the extreme now?

00:09:52.240 It's already, it lives at the extreme.

00:09:54.560 Do you have any outrage addicted people in your life?

00:10:02.600 Oh, you know what pisses me off about that?

00:10:04.760 You want to help them, but you're constantly dodging things that are being thrown, and you don't know how.

00:10:11.780 Try giving them a copy of Glenn Beck's latest book, Addicted to Outrage.

00:10:15.640 It's much cheaper than therapy, and hurts less than a book to your head.

00:10:21.180 And it's more fun.

00:10:22.260 Addicted to Outrage, the new book from Glenn Beck.

00:10:27.120 Available everywhere books are sold.

00:10:34.180 So, how long do I have to look at your ugly sweater?

00:10:38.740 It lights up.

00:10:40.280 It does light up.

00:10:40.960 What you don't know is, during the breaks, Stu just makes it worse by pushing a little button on his sweater.

00:10:49.400 Yeah, because the sweater doesn't just light up, which is always a good part of a sweater.

00:10:54.060 No, you want it to make loud noises, and his sweater does.

00:10:59.640 Yeah, it plays music, too.

00:11:01.000 Yeah, so, you just...

00:11:02.820 That's not what I'd go with.

00:11:03.620 Oh, you have to...

00:11:04.400 I mean, you know, why would you not go with the Eagles theme song, every single break to

00:11:18.500 annoy Glenn?

00:11:19.540 Mm-hmm.

00:11:19.920 I mean, on a day...

00:11:20.700 You know what that really sounds like?

00:11:21.800 What does it sound like?

00:11:22.440 It sounds a little like this.

00:11:26.780 Hang on just a second.

00:11:27.980 It's not on my sweater, so it doesn't come up right away.

00:11:33.000 The Soviet national anthem?

00:11:35.720 Yeah, you push the button on my sweater.

00:11:39.720 I would believe that from you.

00:11:42.640 I mean, the fly Eagles fly kind of sounds like the old Soviet national anthem.

00:11:47.340 I don't know.

00:11:48.560 I mean, it's an eagle.

00:11:49.920 It's a national symbol.

00:11:51.360 Uh-huh.

00:11:51.820 You know, the lyrics also in that Soviet national anthem also had, we're the land of liberty,

00:11:57.480 and we're a free people.

00:12:00.320 There you go.

00:12:00.760 So, there you go.

00:12:03.220 Last night, I took Rafe out to a movie, because I promised him he's wanted to see...

00:12:11.820 Deadpool?

00:12:13.720 Deadpool.

00:12:14.740 And I have not seen it.

00:12:16.800 I know it's rated R.

00:12:18.300 It's very rated R, too, by the way.

00:12:19.640 Yeah, it's very rated R.

00:12:20.640 It's really over the top.

00:12:22.560 So, I haven't seen it.

00:12:23.840 He obviously hasn't seen it, but he's wanted to see it.

00:12:26.740 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:28.120 So, I said, there's a new cut of this.

00:12:32.540 Now, this is something that conservatives have been asking for forever.

00:12:37.380 Can you cut the rated R?

00:12:40.500 Can you give it a cut for us prudes?

00:12:44.400 Well, they've done it.

00:12:46.320 They've done it.

00:12:47.360 This is the first time, and it's, I think, brilliant.

00:12:50.640 First of all, they double dip.

00:12:53.080 You have the rated R audience that goes too far, and then you have the PG-13 that still goes really, really far.

00:13:02.180 But you have that standard now, and you have that choice.

00:13:08.020 This is what we've been asking the movie companies to do forever.

00:13:12.900 However, why can't we have, what is it, the angel thing, vid angel?

00:13:20.280 Right, yeah.

00:13:21.180 Why can't we have that?

00:13:22.920 Well, because it's an art thing.

00:13:25.000 You're losing money.

00:13:27.340 Right, which is not usually where Hollywood goes.

00:13:30.240 Now, sure, there's indie films that maybe they could make the art argument on, but Deadpool, they're trying to make a lot of cash.

00:13:36.320 The first one was really funny.

00:13:38.180 The second one was funny, too.

00:13:39.800 So, I don't know.

00:13:40.820 I haven't seen either of them, and you might go see this and say, oh, they butchered the movie.

00:13:45.020 I think it was really, really funny, and especially the way they did it.

00:13:50.940 They didn't just go and edit this movie.

00:13:53.600 They filmed about 30 minutes extra.

00:13:56.020 Because that was my question with this whole process.

00:13:58.440 I saw Deadpool 2, the rated R version when it first came out, and if you just edited it to make it PG-13, it would be like four minutes long.

00:14:06.620 Like, there's not.

00:14:07.380 No, I think you will, I think you will really, I think you'll really like it, too.

00:14:12.580 They really made it into a new product, though, right?

00:14:14.960 It is.

00:14:15.280 It's not the same movie.

00:14:16.200 Because it starts out, it's so great, and I thought this was just for the trailer.

00:14:19.240 I thought they were just going to cut this movie and, you know, make it shorter and, you know, take some of the stuff out.

00:14:24.280 But they didn't.

00:14:25.200 And it starts exactly like the opening scene of Princess Bride, when the grandpa is sitting there in the chair, okay?

00:14:38.640 So you don't have the mom in there, et cetera, but when grandpa is there and he's like, hey, I brought something, I brought a book, that's Deadpool playing the grandpa.

00:14:49.060 The room looks exactly the same, and Fred Savage is in it, but he's wearing a wedding ring, and he's an adult.

00:14:57.780 And he wakes up as if from a drug-induced state, and he's like, where am I?

00:15:03.280 What is happening?

00:15:05.100 And he's like, hey, fella, I've got a little book for you.

00:15:09.660 I'm going to read it.

00:15:10.240 He's like, what the, is, where, is this the set from, is this the movie set from, yeah, it is.

00:15:17.460 And so they recreate, except he's hostage.

00:15:21.880 And this is all in the trailer, by the way.

00:15:23.580 These are not.

00:15:24.120 Yeah, I'm not giving away anything.

00:15:26.520 But it is, it goes throughout the movie.

00:15:30.220 It keeps going back, just like the Princess Bride, which I thought was brilliant.

00:15:36.660 Really, really brilliant.

00:15:38.240 And very, very funny.

00:15:41.800 At one point, I'm not going to give it away, but the Deadpool character with Fred Savage uses, he's got a little boop, boop, where he can bleep words, because it's a PG-13.

00:15:57.460 And Fred uses a different F-word that is not bad, and that's worth the price of admission alone, the way it's used against him in that scene.

00:16:10.760 Very funny.

00:16:11.440 Very, very funny.

00:16:12.320 That whole, you know, the whole premise of that is it's very aware of itself being a movie.

00:16:17.900 The whole movie's about that.

00:16:20.480 Lazy writing.

00:16:22.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:23.960 That's good.

00:16:24.640 I feel like that's a really, that's something we should, even if you don't like Deadpool, and you don't care about Deadpool, it's something we should be praising Hollywood for a little bit, because that's something we have demanded for a long time.

00:16:37.020 You know, make it so other, you know, so people can see it.

00:16:39.660 You don't have to have every F-bomb in the movie.

00:16:42.560 You don't have to have every sex scene in the movie.

00:16:44.180 We still want to see these movies, and there have been some services.

00:16:47.940 I know VidAngel was one of them.

00:16:48.880 Isn't it, is it, there's another Clean Flix, Pure Flix, one of those?

00:16:52.360 Yeah, Pure Flix.

00:16:54.120 I can't remember which one it is.

00:16:54.820 I can't remember.

00:16:55.400 But there's a service.

00:16:56.080 I know Pat Gray, from Pat Gray Unleashed, uses it on Netflix, and you can watch any movie, and it will, like, edit it, so you can, you can take out whatever you want.

00:17:05.600 You can take out swears, you can take out sex scenes.

00:17:07.580 I don't know if, if Jeffy would be here, he would say he wanted to add in more sex scenes.

00:17:10.740 Right, I don't think it does that.

00:17:11.980 I don't think it doesn't do that.

00:17:12.580 But other than that, it's pretty, it's pretty handy.

00:17:14.280 But, I mean, the idea that they would go through and, instead of just a strict edit, actually make something new out of the movie to please audiences that maybe don't want to see all the R-rated stuff, that's a great outcome.

00:17:24.680 I thought it was brilliant.

00:17:26.100 I thought it was brilliant.

00:17:26.920 Because the kids want to see that movie, you know?

00:17:30.640 And it's the only one they can't see, and it only makes them want to see it more.

00:17:35.180 Of all the Marvel movies, right?

00:17:36.760 This is the only one that's the only R.

00:17:39.520 Yeah, and it just based on the PG-13, I could imagine what the R was like.

00:17:46.640 That's got to be a hard R.

00:17:48.020 Oh, yes.

00:17:48.940 Because it's very, yeah.

00:17:50.980 It pushes the boundaries quite a bit.

00:17:52.700 But that's sort of a joke, right?

00:17:54.040 Right.

00:17:54.180 Like, it's very violent.

00:17:56.020 It's, you know, there's lots of references.

00:17:58.100 There's lots of swearing.

00:17:59.480 It definitely goes, I mean, that's the whole point of it, right?

00:18:01.660 Yeah.

00:18:01.800 The charm of that character, outside of his cynicism and sort of sarcastic nature, is the idea that you're combining this, like, thing that you normally see in a kid's movie with everything you would never see in a kid's movie.

00:18:15.240 So let's just say this, you should be aware that had my wife attended this PG-13 movie and it wasn't the two boys in the theater, it may have, we may not have made it to the end.

00:18:33.280 They pushed this GG-13 as far as they can push it, but I would imagine it's very clean compared to the actual version.

00:18:45.240 And even if you saw the original, see this one.

00:18:49.320 What they did with Fred Savage is really brilliant.

00:18:58.480 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:19:00.040 We welcome to the show Mr. Andrew Heaton, who has a podcast on Blaze TV called Something's Up, Something's Off with Andrew Heaton.

00:19:14.480 And when you get to know him, there really is something off with Andrew Heaton.

00:19:20.520 Thank you for having me back.

00:19:21.220 Good to be here.

00:19:21.880 So I wanted to start with this, Andrew.

00:19:25.020 I don't know if you've been following the Russian spy thing that was libertarian, I guess.

00:19:32.000 Marina Butina, yeah.

00:19:33.260 Well, she was, I think she'd been to Freedom Fest a couple of times.

00:19:36.960 And Freedom Fest is a big libertarian gathering in the desert that happens every year.

00:19:41.360 And I think she'd been there.

00:19:42.540 And I've, I actually, I did warm up for William Shatner there a couple of years ago, which is the highlight of my comedic career, by the way.

00:19:49.740 He was doing jokes for William Shatner and then sneaking up behind him and going, can I get a picture?

00:19:53.420 And him going, you're very funny.

00:19:55.600 And I was like, great.

00:19:56.580 It doesn't matter if anyone thinks I'm fine.

00:19:58.820 I don't think I met her.

00:20:00.040 And I was kind of worried because I have kind of a thing for redheads.

00:20:02.520 And this is pretty well documented.

00:20:04.320 And so I was like.

00:20:05.720 You mean by like the police?

00:20:07.020 Yeah.

00:20:07.460 There's, I'm sure that there's all sorts of organizations keeping tabs on me.

00:20:10.400 And so what I saw that I was like, wait a minute.

00:20:12.220 And like, and I dated a young lady who's from a different country who's a redhead.

00:20:16.180 So when I first saw that headline of like spy, I was like, oh, wow.

00:20:18.640 No, it's not her.

00:20:19.300 I didn't, I didn't, I didn't date Marina Boutin.

00:20:21.520 But I do, I, I'm going to take the, the, the contrarian approach on this and say like,

00:20:27.060 thank you, Russia for having the decency and the gentlemanliness of sending us hot spies.

00:20:33.440 That is some old school gentleman tactics that has fallen out of use in international diplomacy.

00:20:38.880 There's one country I'm thinking of.

00:20:40.160 I'm not going to mention which one it is, but from what I can tell,

00:20:42.800 all they're doing is hacking us from a basement somewhere in China.

00:20:45.260 And I appreciate the fact that the Russians will at least send over hot women to seduce our guys.

00:20:51.840 Wasn't that part of the Cold War era?

00:20:53.680 Wasn't that, I mean.

00:20:54.580 It was the best part of the Cold War era.

00:20:56.400 We got good Twilight Zone episodes and we got, we got these hot spies to come over.

00:21:00.320 Exactly right.

00:21:00.920 Yeah.

00:21:01.160 It was like the constant fear of nuclear death was alleviated somewhat by the fact that,

00:21:06.140 you know, you might end up having a fling with a Russian agent.

00:21:08.700 That was cool.

00:21:09.860 And they're keeping that alive.

00:21:11.480 Thank you.

00:21:11.920 Thank you, Russia.

00:21:12.760 Like that tells me they respect us.

00:21:14.520 Right.

00:21:15.060 I think too, the change from the Soviet Union to Russia and just whatever bit of capitalism

00:21:21.220 entered their world in that transition really made their women hotter.

00:21:26.460 Like there were not, that's their biggest export at this point are just really attractive women.

00:21:31.420 That was not the case.

00:21:32.200 You go back and look at some of those like, you know, Olympics teams from the 70s and 80s.

00:21:36.000 It's, it's, it was not the case.

00:21:37.100 Yeah, you got Anna Kornikova and Maria Sharapova and there's a constant flow.

00:21:42.720 Maybe they were just hot, but sad and starving.

00:21:45.080 I don't like, I'd have to go back and look.

00:21:46.840 It's possible that you look and you're like, oh, I can't, I'm not remotely aroused because

00:21:50.220 of the misery of that place.

00:21:51.740 Yeah.

00:21:52.080 And that's probably good.

00:21:53.400 I just remember them being big and frightening.

00:21:58.020 You know, like, that's not a woman, is it?

00:22:04.620 I mean, you know, right now you're like with, with transgenderism and you know, you kind of,

00:22:10.660 but this was, they weren't trying not to be women.

00:22:14.060 They were women.

00:22:15.480 They just looked like big men.

00:22:17.800 What do the men look like?

00:22:19.960 They were all like the hurly burly, like barrel chested, like, uh.

00:22:23.500 Drunks.

00:22:24.280 Okay.

00:22:24.940 So it's just, it's a nation of weightlifters.

00:22:26.780 Yes.

00:22:27.060 Yeah, pretty much.

00:22:28.100 That's my entire stereotype.

00:22:29.480 Or gymnasts.

00:22:30.900 Or chess players.

00:22:32.100 Right.

00:22:32.540 They're really into chess.

00:22:33.440 Right.

00:22:33.700 Yeah.

00:22:33.900 Right.

00:22:34.220 Right.

00:22:34.840 So, uh, so you never met her.

00:22:37.260 I don't think.

00:22:37.840 It's possible I met her.

00:22:38.820 It wouldn't surprise me, but I'm, I'm confident I didn't date her.

00:22:41.600 Right.

00:22:41.920 I'm like that.

00:22:42.520 That's the thing that I had to do a quick mental check on.

00:22:44.180 Because you've dated almost all the libertarian women.

00:22:45.920 There are eight, and I have dated five.

00:22:47.880 Uh-huh.

00:22:48.280 Wow.

00:22:48.660 So the remaining three, it's just, if they get divorced, I gotta swoop in.

00:22:51.820 We should point out that technically, because since she was a Russian spy, there's really

00:22:55.280 only seven.

00:22:55.880 That's true.

00:22:56.320 You're right.

00:22:56.620 There's actually only seven, and we can infer that one of them's probably a spy, and the

00:23:00.160 remaining seven.

00:23:01.140 Right.

00:23:01.560 So yes, it's a pretty slim number.

00:23:03.940 Yeah.

00:23:04.460 It's kind of a sad life you live.

00:23:06.320 Yes, I, we're all in agreement.

00:23:08.320 Yeah.

00:23:08.500 You know, I'm a snappy dresser with a sad life.

00:23:10.400 Yeah.

00:23:10.880 So, um, you've been covering a couple of stories that, uh, you know, have not been covered by the

00:23:15.580 mainstream media, or really anybody else, uh, thus the name Something's Off with Andrew

00:23:21.000 Heaton.

00:23:21.680 Well, you know, I, there's a few things we endeavor to do.

00:23:23.900 Uh, it is a fun podcast.

00:23:25.720 It's a thoughtful podcast.

00:23:26.920 And, uh, so I do, uh, I bring on a lot of people to have discourse.

00:23:31.020 The motto of the show is, uh, um, good and intelligent people can disagree on matters

00:23:35.760 of substance.

00:23:36.480 But before I get into that thoughtful stuff, I try and find headlines that I don't feel

00:23:41.440 are getting sufficient attention in the national media.

00:23:43.500 And this week, uh, I didn't even do multiple headlines.

00:23:46.180 I dedicated like a full block to trying to unravel this story, which I believe is what's

00:23:50.440 going to get me the Pulitzer this next year.

00:23:52.000 Really?

00:23:52.360 Which is one of my goals for 2019.

00:23:53.600 Wow.

00:23:53.940 Okay.

00:23:54.340 All right.

00:23:54.520 Is get a Pulitzer.

00:23:55.060 So what was the story that you were?

00:23:57.040 So, and I, I need to stress, I'm not making any of this up.

00:23:59.980 This is all totally legitimate.

00:24:01.340 Okay.

00:24:01.700 Uh, scientists were concerned that in, in Hawaii, endangered monk seals kept being found with

00:24:08.620 dead eels up their nostrils that they were apparently snorting eels.

00:24:14.220 Right.

00:24:14.600 And have you seen this?

00:24:15.680 Yeah.

00:24:15.960 I saw the picture.

00:24:17.100 It's creepy.

00:24:17.740 And they don't seem to mind it.

00:24:19.460 They seem, I don't know seal psychology, super right, but they appear to be kind of blithely

00:24:25.040 unaware.

00:24:25.580 I would, or, or the fact that they don't have hands.

00:24:28.440 They know there's nothing they can do about it.

00:24:30.360 So it's just like, whatever, I gotta, they're the Buddhists of the, uh, the animal world

00:24:34.440 where they're like, you know what?

00:24:35.320 Like, can't, can't do anything about it.

00:24:36.840 So don't reject it.

00:24:37.620 Just, just roll with the punch.

00:24:39.440 Uh, yeah, they, they, so it started out with this photo that's gone viral where there's,

00:24:44.000 there's this seal monk that looks like it's half asleep with this two inches of, of eel

00:24:48.580 dangling out of his nostril.

00:24:49.900 And this scientist, it was spotted on, you know, one of these endangered species cams

00:24:54.020 or whatever, whatever the scientists have set up there.

00:24:55.980 And so he sent out this email and I, I did some research on this.

00:24:58.760 The email subject line was just eel in nose, question mark.

00:25:03.100 And it was him emailing the other scientists to see if there was a protocol for removing

00:25:06.620 eels from seal noses.

00:25:08.500 And they had to do a back and forth.

00:25:09.620 And eventually they're like, apparently we don't have this in the handbook.

00:25:11.660 So some guy just went out there and like pulled it out like a, like a magic trick, like one

00:25:15.580 of those handkerchiefs the magician has took out this dead, uh, dead, uh, it was dead.

00:25:20.340 It was, yeah, yeah.

00:25:20.980 It's, it's, I don't know how long it was alive by the time they got it.

00:25:24.220 It was dead.

00:25:24.620 The seal was fine.

00:25:25.740 Uh, the seal was fine.

00:25:26.740 Uh, although this is one of the concerns they have.

00:25:28.760 Is that if, if this keeps happening and they found like, they've got like five documented

00:25:33.120 cases of this now, uh, at least four, they said four or five.

00:25:36.380 So I assume one of them might be the same.

00:25:37.740 They're just not sure.

00:25:38.620 Um, but their, their fear is that if this keeps happening, that the, uh, the monk seals

00:25:42.900 will either get pneumonia or there just might be general health complications from having

00:25:46.780 a rotting eel carcass in your nostril, which I think is a fair assumption.

00:25:49.520 And so I, so are the, are the eels crawling in against the will of the seal?

00:25:57.500 That is a great question.

00:25:58.720 Or are they, are the eels going somehow or another, come see what's inside the cavern of

00:26:06.020 my face?

00:26:06.740 Okay.

00:26:07.220 The great question.

00:26:08.180 And this is what has been racking the scientific community, uh, these few months since this

00:26:12.360 started happening.

00:26:12.940 Uh, we're, we're putting, we're putting cures for cancer on the back burner and we're all

00:26:17.140 trying to figure out, uh, Oh, it's important.

00:26:18.940 I mean, I'm a doctor, so I understand.

00:26:20.460 And I'm a deputy scientist.

00:26:21.520 Right.

00:26:21.800 I own a lab coat.

00:26:22.660 That's how that works under us law.

00:26:23.840 Uh, and, uh, no, so the, the, there's kind of three prevailing theories and I've got my

00:26:28.180 own fourth theory.

00:26:29.040 The, the first theory is that the monk seals, when they're, they're hunting and they eat

00:26:33.580 eels among the eels, urchins and octopi.

00:26:36.080 The theory is that they will find a hole underwater and just kind of shove their head into it and start

00:26:40.740 grouging around and there'll be an eel inside.

00:26:43.660 And the only orifice with which it could escape is the seal nostril from the perspective of

00:26:49.080 the eel.

00:26:49.740 So it just shoots up there trying to escape.

00:26:51.520 That doesn't work.

00:26:51.980 So that's one theory, right?

00:26:53.000 That's a pretty good theory.

00:26:54.240 And that's pretty smart.

00:26:55.040 I feel like that's a good idea from the eel.

00:26:57.440 It's actually pretty smart.

00:26:58.820 It's, you know what?

00:26:59.340 Like, I mean, shoot the moon.

00:27:00.460 If you can make it through that whole gastrointestinal track, that would, you would be the greatest

00:27:03.980 eel of all time if you could work your way through there.

00:27:05.940 But so far, well, you know what?

00:27:07.480 Maybe they have, we're only seeing the dead ones, right?

00:27:09.600 Maybe the really fast eels get out.

00:27:12.720 I don't think it's super likely because apparently, again, I spent way too much time researching

00:27:17.380 this.

00:27:17.940 Seals have pretty good muscle retention in their nostrils.

00:27:20.880 Like, I think it's almost like a sphincter or something where they can control that hole.

00:27:24.280 So I don't think it's likely something could force it in, which brings us to theory number

00:27:27.360 two, which is that they're vomiting out the eels.

00:27:30.340 So like, if you've ever, you know, shoot Mr. Pip out your nose when you're laughing because

00:27:33.720 you were watching Newhart.

00:27:34.860 Right.

00:27:35.320 Newhart, great show.

00:27:36.200 And you're watching that and Bob Newhart just, you're always so funny.

00:27:39.000 And you shoot out that Mr. Pip out your nose.

00:27:41.160 Could be something like that, right?

00:27:43.480 Again, but it's like the whole eel.

00:27:45.580 So I don't think that's like it.

00:27:47.120 And the third one, which is kind of the one the scientists seem to be gravitating towards

00:27:51.060 is, and I'm not, again, this is them, not me.

00:27:53.900 Teenagers are dumb.

00:27:55.440 Their theory is that just there are dumb monk seal, probably males, that just snort eels

00:28:00.460 for the hell of it because why not to impress their seal buddies?

00:28:03.980 So it's like the T, it's like the seals, tide pod.

00:28:07.720 It's like drag racing.

00:28:08.780 It's like tide pods.

00:28:09.420 It's like tide pods.

00:28:10.360 It's just a stupid thing to do.

00:28:10.860 It's like the seal adults are like, look at the damn teenagers.

00:28:14.140 Our entire society of seals is going to be wiped out in the next generation.

00:28:19.100 The elder seals are talking about how the water used to be wetter.

00:28:21.960 Right.

00:28:22.320 And how the young seals are narcissistic.

00:28:24.720 They don't have proper seal respect.

00:28:26.360 And they don't clap their flippers as well.

00:28:28.740 Right.

00:28:28.880 My theory, by the way, is I think there's probably cocaine in them.

00:28:31.960 I think that there's cocaine inside the eels.

00:28:33.780 I don't know where cocaine comes from, but it's probably eels.

00:28:35.940 It comes from plants.

00:28:37.280 Does it?

00:28:38.000 Well, maybe.

00:28:39.140 And I guess those eels are eaten, because that's the only thing I can think of that would

00:28:41.800 compel an edible to suck an eel up, or any species to suck an eel up its nose.

00:28:46.060 That's the only thing I can think of.

00:28:47.280 Yeah.

00:28:47.880 Yeah.

00:28:48.280 Okay.

00:28:49.180 Let me switch topics to Cohen.

00:28:52.880 Okay.

00:28:53.260 So if you're on the Pulitzer committee, if you're listening, you're on the Pulitzer committee,

00:28:56.320 I'm doing yeoman's work here.

00:28:58.180 It's a big investigation.

00:29:00.060 It's on the level with the Miami Herald, with all the stuff they did.

00:29:05.360 The Epstein case.

00:29:06.020 The Epstein case.

00:29:07.020 I mean, there's a few nominees, but you're there.

00:29:10.040 I'd share it with the Miami Herald.

00:29:11.440 So you know, he does have an Emmy.

00:29:13.680 He won an Emmy.

00:29:15.000 I was given an Emmy by John Stossel.

00:29:19.380 Right.

00:29:20.440 So John Stossel, great guy.

00:29:22.040 Yeah.

00:29:22.560 That I worked with, or I worked near, I wasn't on the same team as him at Fox Business.

00:29:26.460 But this is the worst award ever.

00:29:28.420 So he was given to you.

00:29:29.620 He won it.

00:29:30.240 He gave it to you and you weren't even working with him.

00:29:32.640 That's not winning an Emmy.

00:29:33.820 So you can't put that on the resume.

00:29:35.220 So John, who, if you don't know John, John's an incredibly smart guy and a very nice guy.

00:29:40.120 Very nice guy.

00:29:40.560 But also the least sentimental human being I've ever met.

00:29:43.440 Yes.

00:29:43.580 Like he just doesn't.

00:29:44.500 It's like he had to like.

00:29:45.380 He is like what AI is going to be.

00:29:47.560 Yeah.

00:29:47.680 He, he, like, he looks up like human emotions on Wikipedia, like reads about him.

00:29:52.840 Yes.

00:29:53.220 And so for a while, what he would do is he, he would have these, he has like, I think eight

00:29:57.280 national Emmys, which are big deal.

00:29:58.860 And he has like 400 local Emmys, which are important, but not as big of a deal.

00:30:02.920 So when he would go to college campuses, whoever asked the best question, he would just give

00:30:06.700 them a local Emmy.

00:30:07.860 So when I left Fox, I went like, John, if you're just passing out Emmys, I'd take one.

00:30:14.060 And he's like, why should I give it to you?

00:30:15.700 And I was like, well, because, you know, I do political satire and just walked over

00:30:18.560 and handed me a national Emmy and was like, here you go.

00:30:20.780 And, uh, so I thought this was really, and the way, and the way he told this to me, he

00:30:24.580 was like, Hey, you know, John really thought this was a funny thing that we did and everything

00:30:28.120 else.

00:30:28.680 So I'm on a plane with, uh, uh, with John just a few weeks ago and we're, we're flying

00:30:33.720 to, I don't remember Bermuda.

00:30:36.580 And, uh, and so he, he hops on the plane and I said, John, I know a friend of yours.

00:30:43.340 And he, he goes off and he talks and says all great stuff about Andrew Heaton and how

00:30:47.520 much he loves him and everything else.

00:30:48.800 And I said, Andrew told me that you gave him a national Emmy.

00:30:53.360 And he's like, Oh yeah.

00:30:54.820 Yeah.

00:30:55.980 You want one?

00:30:57.020 I mean, he's giving them away like they're candy.

00:30:59.480 Yeah.

00:30:59.680 Yeah.

00:31:00.140 No, no cinematography.

00:31:01.860 Yeah.

00:31:02.700 John was probably just tired of dusting.

00:31:04.660 Yeah.

00:31:05.040 That was an easy way to get rid of it.

00:31:06.420 It's incredible.

00:31:08.060 Andrew, uh, Andrew Heaton.

00:31:09.760 Something's off with Andrew Heaton is the podcast.

00:31:12.160 Subscribe to it.

00:31:13.020 You're going to love it.

00:31:13.780 It's a, it's a lot of fun.

00:31:15.480 Andrew, thank you so much.

00:31:16.720 Thank you.

00:31:21.840 So a friend of mine, uh, found this, um, this post and, you know, we've been talking

00:31:28.000 about things you could do for the holidays to cheer people up.

00:31:31.720 And this one's not going to cost you a dime, going to cost you about 40 seconds.

00:31:36.320 I'm going to read this to you from Randy Moa of Bellingham, Washington on his Facebook

00:31:40.860 page.

00:31:41.220 He said, I'm raising my 12 year old grandson, Joe.

00:31:43.800 He's been with me for six and a half years.

00:31:45.700 My wife, Pauline just passed away over a year ago.

00:31:48.340 And so mostly Joe and I are doing fine, but it gets a little dismal around here.

00:31:52.780 Sometimes some of Joe's comments recently have been grandpa.

00:31:56.580 I'm getting tired of just being you and me.

00:31:58.500 Maybe we could get another kid.

00:32:00.500 Uh, grandpa.

00:32:01.300 I don't think people like us, uh, very much.

00:32:04.020 Nobody's coming around.

00:32:05.380 His way to reach out is his YouTube channel.

00:32:08.100 He has over 50 videos posted currently 51 subscribers.

00:32:11.880 His biggest thrill and affirmation is getting a new subscriber.

00:32:14.940 Could you please go to his channel and use the quotation marks quotation mark, Joe Moa,

00:32:21.800 M O A end quotation marks and, uh, watch a video or two like them and subscribe.

00:32:28.380 Please doesn't cost anything.

00:32:29.420 Just a little time.

00:32:30.380 Joe will be so happy.

00:32:32.540 Also feel free to share this post with your friends, blah, blah, blah.

00:32:35.640 So it is quotation mark, Joe Moa, M O A end quotation marks.

00:32:42.440 Um, kids, I've, I've watched a couple of the videos.

00:32:45.020 They're harmless.

00:32:45.500 They're, there's just a, I don't even know how old he is.

00:32:48.880 I think he's a 12.

00:32:50.220 He's a 12 year old boy.

00:32:52.060 And so he's just doing, you know, 12 year old boy videos.

00:32:54.820 Um, and they're harmless and, and, you know, he's a cute kid all by himself, uh, up in the

00:33:00.980 wilds of the Pacific Northwest.

00:33:02.520 Um, uh, in, uh, Bellingham.

00:33:05.480 And so.

00:33:06.560 So you go to YouTube and you search Joe Moa, M O A and his, his channel comes up and you

00:33:11.540 want to, what should we do is you subscribe to it?

00:33:14.140 Like it.

00:33:14.780 Like it.

00:33:15.240 Yeah.

00:33:15.360 There's a subscription page for YouTube, right?

00:33:17.540 So click subscribe and see how, cause he's going to come, he has like whatever for 50

00:33:21.060 subscribers, he's going to come home and see more than 50, I would guess with this audience

00:33:25.540 doing it.

00:33:26.560 And he doesn't, I don't know his grandfather.

00:33:29.760 I don't know Joe or anything else.

00:33:31.260 So it's just, let's just quietly do this and not just not tell him and have your kids

00:33:37.560 and have your, and have your kids, uh, subscribe.

00:33:40.620 Maybe, I mean, maybe if your boy feels the same, wants a, like a pen pal, here it

00:33:45.340 is.

00:33:45.660 I remember I had a pen pal.

00:33:47.140 I grew up just outside of Bellingham, uh, Washington and I had a pen pal and he was

00:33:52.720 in, I think Troy, New York.

00:33:54.860 And man, I remember waiting for those, those, uh, letters and we were a pen pal for, I don't

00:34:00.460 know, half a year or so.

00:34:02.360 And I still, I wish I could remember the kid's name.

00:34:04.620 I'd look him up today.

00:34:06.660 Um, but, uh, it was, it was great.

00:34:09.640 I, I loved it.

00:34:10.980 So anyway, do it.

00:34:12.980 Go to YouTube, uh, quotation mark, Joe Moa, M-O-A quotation mark, like it and subscribe

00:34:23.520 and give this kid a holiday treat that doesn't cost you anything.

00:34:27.980 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:34:37.520 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:34:41.440 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:34:43.680 There is, there's a couple of remarkable stories today.

00:34:47.800 One of them is about politics and Donald Trump and this, this new letter of intent, uh, to,

00:34:55.520 uh, negotiate for a, uh, hotel Trump Moscow.

00:35:00.560 Uh, it has finally been released.

00:35:03.500 Eric Bolling is going to have, uh, a different view on this.

00:35:07.740 I'm, I'm guessing than mine.

00:35:09.020 And I am really anxious to see, uh, what is happening in the white house, what this means,

00:35:15.980 uh, to the white house and Eric Bolling.

00:35:19.140 Uh, and also there's a, there's a couple of other stories that kind of revolve around Eric's

00:35:25.280 life, uh, that I'm, I'm hoping we can get into on today's program.

00:35:31.280 Eric Bolling in one minute.

00:35:33.660 Eric Bolling for a period of time, played professional sports until he was, uh, injured.

00:35:44.660 Then he went in, became a stock, uh, trader in wall street, uh, then went to television

00:35:51.980 and we know the rest from there.

00:35:55.260 Eric Bolling on the blaze TV.

00:35:58.020 Welcome to the program.

00:35:59.320 How are you, Eric?

00:36:00.680 I'm doing great, Glenn.

00:36:02.340 Thank you for having me.

00:36:03.500 Um, I'm honored to, uh, spend some time with you on this very interesting day.

00:36:08.600 It's a very interesting day, isn't it?

00:36:11.500 So here's the great thing.

00:36:12.900 A lot of demand for Bolling to explain some stuff coming out of the white house.

00:36:16.800 Right.

00:36:17.480 So, so here's, here's, here's the great thing about blaze TV is we are a collection of people

00:36:24.520 that we don't interfere with each other's show or opinion and we like each other and get

00:36:30.460 along and we can disagree.

00:36:32.440 And I think we got, we're going to disagree on this, uh, but it doesn't matter.

00:36:36.360 I really want to hear your opinion on, on the, the memo that came out from the Trump administration.

00:36:44.340 Well, as Donald Trump himself said, and I agree with wholeheartedly that he had a business,

00:36:54.220 he had a real estate business that was doing, uh, making hotel deals around, around the world.

00:36:59.420 When he ran for president, no one gave him a chance, including the New York times on the

00:37:03.880 night of the election had Hillary Clinton with a 98% chance of winning, uh, as the return

00:37:10.080 started to come in.

00:37:10.920 I'll never forget seeing that, that meter, the New York times meter of likelihood of,

00:37:14.840 of your next president going literally pinned it to Hillary slowly and slowly and slowly.

00:37:19.800 We got around 10 o'clock at night, it just flipped the way over to the Trump side.

00:37:24.720 Why would he stop doing any sort of business?

00:37:27.040 If he didn't, if, if, if he wasn't sure he was going to be president, that's insane.

00:37:31.520 We would have no one running for, for like the office, if that were the case, we'd have

00:37:35.380 no one with, with business experience and backgrounds, uh, running.

00:37:38.920 If they had to drop their prior businesses on, in, in, in the, in the likelihood or

00:37:44.500 unlikelihood of them being president, no less, and then all of a sudden try and pick up the

00:37:49.000 pieces where they left off.

00:37:50.020 That would be crazy.

00:37:50.920 Okay.

00:37:51.100 So, so I, I agree with you a hundred percent.

00:37:54.220 However, um, he denied, uh, the business, um, dealings with Moscow, uh, long after the

00:38:02.740 election.

00:38:03.300 Rudy Giuliani denied it.

00:38:04.660 Rudy Giuliani denied it.

00:38:06.000 I don't know that Donald Trump ever denied.

00:38:07.600 I think he said, of course, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm ongoing business concern, multi-billion

00:38:12.020 dollar international real estate business.

00:38:14.120 Can't stop.

00:38:15.300 I, I love you, Eric.

00:38:16.700 I love you, but I can't, but I can't let you get away with that.

00:38:20.680 He, he denied it relentlessly.

00:38:23.100 He said he had no business dealings with, with Russia multiple times.

00:38:26.720 And he said, I don't know anybody who does have any business dealings.

00:38:31.020 No, I, I, I, I, I don't recall.

00:38:34.360 I swear to you on my life.

00:38:36.240 I don't recall him saying specifically.

00:38:37.300 Well, but does it, okay.

00:38:38.320 So no business dealings with Russia, because we know there, there are other, um, other

00:38:43.420 properties that, in fact, he sold a property, um, that he owned in, in Florida for one that

00:38:49.880 I think it was at the time, the largest real estate deal in the history of Florida.

00:38:53.200 That one he admitted to, that one he admitted to, he said the only business dealing, our business

00:38:57.580 deals.

00:38:58.120 Right.

00:38:58.260 So he said, the only business deal I have with Russia is I sold a property a few years

00:39:03.200 ago in Florida.

00:39:04.320 So he admitted that one and he was straight up about it.

00:39:07.660 My question is, is why, why do this?

00:39:11.640 Well, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the press has no

00:39:13.580 credibility.

00:39:15.000 Um, people trust Donald Trump who voted for him and, you know, he did it and you can say

00:39:21.740 the same thing, you know, about, uh, you know, with, with Bill Clinton, this was a personal

00:39:25.820 thing.

00:39:26.080 It was about sex, et cetera.

00:39:27.140 But he stood on the plane and he looked at the reporters and he said, I had nothing to

00:39:32.200 do with it.

00:39:32.780 I had nothing.

00:39:33.780 I didn't even know about it.

00:39:35.060 Okay.

00:39:35.240 Well, we find out that he did know about it.

00:39:37.460 Okay.

00:39:37.900 We can dismiss it because that one's a personal thing with his wife.

00:39:41.880 All right.

00:39:42.960 Now this one comes out.

00:39:44.840 Why wouldn't he just stop all this?

00:39:48.140 Why wouldn't he just come out and just say, yeah.

00:39:50.620 And here's the contract.

00:39:52.720 Well, I just, cause I'm not sure that they had consummated the deal at that point.

00:39:56.440 I think there was an ongoing concern that I saw a signature on, on the note, on the

00:40:00.340 memo as well.

00:40:01.500 I, I honestly, Glenn, I'm being 100% honest with you.

00:40:04.000 I don't, I don't remember him saying I have no business whatsoever with Russia with the,

00:40:08.200 with the exception of that real estate dealing in Florida.

00:40:10.320 Okay.

00:40:10.540 So, um, okay.

00:40:11.560 So I don't want to get in.

00:40:13.480 But if I, if I take your word for it, um, I could only say that, that, uh, you know,

00:40:19.760 I, he'd have to, he'd have to circle back and say, explain, explain the signature because

00:40:24.500 you do know, however, I don't think it's a problem.

00:40:29.280 There's no emoluments clause of violations whatsoever.

00:40:33.320 Let's go back to the reality.

00:40:34.900 Okay.

00:40:35.080 So if, if in fact he said, I have no business dealings with Russia and he had a letter of

00:40:39.960 intent, not a deal, you know, you and I, Glenn, we go way back.

00:40:44.540 We know letters of intent don't necessarily mean a deal is done.

00:40:47.820 It means we intend to do a deal.

00:40:49.200 It's not a legal binding matter by any means that may be where he gets around it.

00:40:52.980 He may say, look, it's a letter of intent.

00:40:54.700 We signed letter of intent around the world all the time for everything I've signed.

00:40:57.740 How many letters of intent have you signed and or received that ended up not being a

00:41:02.320 deal?

00:41:02.600 Tons.

00:41:03.280 So maybe that's the little cork to it, but, but let's, let's, let's take it.

00:41:08.320 Let's bring it through the machine and find out what it really is.

00:41:11.240 It's really a businessman continuing to do business, you know, in the way he was until he

00:41:16.600 was elected president and then things changed.

00:41:18.440 He gave the business and the dealings off to, to Eric and Don jr.

00:41:22.960 And to a certain extent, Ivanka as well, but less so Ivanka, but Eric and Don jr.

00:41:28.360 Okay.

00:41:28.920 Because it seems to me really the underlying issue is not an issue, right?

00:41:32.300 He's, he's, he's running a business that talks about international real estate and he's

00:41:36.440 in the middle of an international real estate deal.

00:41:38.080 I mean, there's nothing there.

00:41:40.600 Again, and it's just, it's kind of daunting on me because I've, I've got how many, what?

00:41:44.420 40 years in business under my belt.

00:41:45.980 And it's, it's just daunting on me as we speak right now that a letter of intent is not a

00:41:50.020 binding contract.

00:41:51.060 No, I know.

00:41:51.380 No, no, no.

00:41:51.860 It's true.

00:41:52.360 No, no, no.

00:41:52.580 I know that.

00:41:53.220 I know that.

00:41:53.600 He was dealing with them.

00:41:54.680 He was attempting to get business.

00:41:56.140 He kept saying, you know, I never had any business with Russia.

00:41:58.560 You know, the closest I ever came to Russia, I bought a house a number of years ago in Palm

00:42:01.760 Beach, Florida.

00:42:02.880 Uh, you know, the New York times has him on 23 low occasions.

00:42:06.820 And I don't know that all of these, a lot of them are, I have nothing to do with Russia,

00:42:10.200 which isn't necessarily talking about business dealings, but he did say, I had no business

00:42:15.660 dealings with Russia.

00:42:16.440 I had no business with Russia.

00:42:18.340 Um, you know, he, I, again, I think, you know, in his defense, right, he's in the middle

00:42:22.320 of getting attacked constantly by, by the media.

00:42:25.220 And probably he knows if he says he did have a deal brewing with Russia, everyone would

00:42:30.260 accuse him of a million different things and he didn't want to deal with it.

00:42:32.940 Um, and I can understand why he tried to push it off.

00:42:35.980 I just feel like he, it's, it, you know, it's the whole Nixon thing.

00:42:38.880 It's really not the crime.

00:42:39.740 It's the coverup.

00:42:40.440 And I don't think the crime in this case is a crime at all.

00:42:42.920 It's his normal business dealings.

00:42:44.340 I just wish he would be a little more upfront.

00:42:46.900 That's, that's all I would ask.

00:42:48.100 Well, and again, and I'm sorry, I started the interview off not really understanding it,

00:42:52.280 but as I, as I talk to you and talk it out, a letter of intent literally is like a

00:42:57.900 handshake.

00:42:58.420 It's, it's nothing more like, Hey, you know, let's circle back, see if we can come to terms.

00:43:02.080 So technically he had no business deal done dealings is a letter of intent dealings.

00:43:07.820 I mean, we're going to parse, you know, the, the, the meaning of is, is here again, but

00:43:11.880 I don't know.

00:43:12.800 Maybe we want to, but again, there, there, there was no deal done.

00:43:17.540 There's no deal consummated.

00:43:18.680 And, uh, you know, the difference is like when you do a deal, you sign a contract and

00:43:23.280 you do a press release.

00:43:25.420 That's true.

00:43:26.140 I mean, it's, again, it is six.

00:43:27.920 What is it?

00:43:28.480 It's a letter of intent.

00:43:29.200 I'm not, I'm laughing because it's, it's literally, there's literally thousands of

00:43:33.100 letters of intent that, you know, drawn up and, and, and, you know, they're, they're,

00:43:37.740 they're worth the paper that they're written on.

00:43:39.660 And that, that's about it.

00:43:40.800 Yeah, no, it's true.

00:43:41.400 I mean, it's a detailed letter of intent, right?

00:43:43.500 I mean, it's 16 pages of all the different, you know, going down to like how they're going

00:43:47.020 to figure out concession splits.

00:43:49.140 I mean, it's pretty, it's relatively detailed, but I think to your point, Eric, it's, it's,

00:43:53.240 it's true that the media is going to kind of obsess over this and they're going to say

00:43:57.100 this is proof of, you know, collusion about the election when, I mean, it really has nothing

00:44:03.560 to do with that at all.

00:44:04.880 With the election.

00:44:05.680 They're just going to try to conflate these things.

00:44:07.100 This is the problem.

00:44:07.980 This is the problem that the, they are conflating absolutely everything into this collusion with

00:44:17.420 Russia and the election.

00:44:18.740 And I just don't see it.

00:44:21.260 I don't believe it.

00:44:22.520 They would have to show me the, you know, the evidence of it.

00:44:26.580 And I have not seen any evidence that there was collusion for the election.

00:44:31.420 It just, it, it, it, it's so frustrating because the president.

00:44:36.800 You know, you know, the media, you know, these, the liberal hack media that, that if they can

00:44:42.820 make something up, they can take a, you know, eat and call it a tree.

00:44:46.640 They will, there isn't that, there's no, there are no seeds.

00:44:49.040 And if there were, and if they're, if Mueller was sitting on something, it would leak by now.

00:44:53.400 It would leak.

00:44:54.180 We would know that there'd be something that they've got him tattooed to the wall.

00:44:57.920 And there's no, there's no secrets in DC.

00:45:01.580 So Eric, I am, I'm just to the point to where I don't really care to speculate.

00:45:05.780 They, I don't want to, I don't want to speculate on what they have, what they don't have.

00:45:08.780 Cause I'm tired of it.

00:45:09.920 I watch CNN.

00:45:11.160 It's not a news show.

00:45:13.180 It's, it's, it's like a psychic hour that they're saying, well, I'm looking in the crystal

00:45:18.080 ball and I think this is what they've gotten.

00:45:20.680 I don't care.

00:45:21.760 I don't care.

00:45:22.700 I just want to talk about the things that we do know they have.

00:45:26.260 So if they've got something else, they'll come out with it until that time.

00:45:29.880 I don't even want to talk about it because it makes no difference to anybody's life.

00:45:34.220 And it just confuses things and pits us against each other on what on speculation coming from

00:45:41.020 people.

00:45:41.540 I don't trust.

00:45:42.400 I'm not, I'm not interested.

00:45:44.260 Well, but it, but it rates Glenn.

00:45:45.820 And that's what the left does.

00:45:47.060 And you're watching MSNBC's ratings in prime time creep up.

00:45:51.380 In fact, even past Fox's ratings in prime time.

00:45:53.760 It's a, it's what's, it's what the left and in the anti-Trump crowd wants to hear that

00:45:58.540 we're getting close to, to nailing the president.

00:46:02.100 It's almost an anticipatory viewer waiting to see what they got.

00:46:08.200 And they keep getting disappointed.

00:46:10.400 We're on almost now.

00:46:11.880 They've been saying that every time something new breaks, they're like, we got them this

00:46:15.820 time.

00:46:16.360 No, you don't.

00:46:17.060 No, you don't.

00:46:17.880 No, it's not going to, it's, it's not going anywhere.

00:46:20.760 So anyway, the most common phrase on CNN is the walls are closing in.

00:46:24.340 They just keep saying it over and over again.

00:46:26.160 I know.

00:46:26.620 He must be living in a matchbox by now.

00:46:29.800 All right.

00:46:30.420 Eric Bowling from, from ericbowling.com and Blaze TV.

00:46:36.360 He does a nightly show from Washington, gives you all of the inside information.

00:46:41.700 We're thrilled to have him on the program today.

00:46:44.580 I want to switch topics and go away from politics a little bit.

00:46:49.140 If you'll allow me to, uh, in one minute.

00:46:55.040 So Eric Bowling, uh, I want to switch topics to you.

00:46:59.340 Um, and there's a, there's a couple of things.

00:47:02.440 First of all, what do you have, what do you have coming up and what are you going to be

00:47:08.000 looking at and doing on the Blaze TV in the next, in the next year?

00:47:12.220 So I think we're going to continue to do what we do.

00:47:15.900 By the way, Glenn, we, we, we just did a big press release that I, I signed with Blaze

00:47:20.320 TV for three years and I'm looking forward to working with you and Mark and some of the

00:47:24.940 other, some of the other, uh, conservative hosts that we, we were delivering probably the

00:47:30.060 premier, actually the premier conservative content, um, uh, in media right now, opinion

00:47:36.740 content.

00:47:37.220 So I'm looking forward to that and inviting as many other conservative, smart, conservative

00:47:41.180 voices to, to join me at Blaze TV.

00:47:43.860 It's going to be a great venture.

00:47:44.980 I'm looking forward to it.

00:47:45.780 So that, that announcement just went out.

00:47:47.460 That's great.

00:47:47.940 Congratulations.

00:47:48.640 I'm thrilled.

00:47:49.400 I'm thrilled.

00:47:50.000 We are going to do what we've been doing.

00:47:51.960 Our show America is just, it's unbelievable.

00:47:54.320 We're, we're, we're in congressman's offices.

00:47:57.140 We are in the Senate rotunda talking to senators.

00:47:59.640 I spent, uh, the day yesterday at the white house with Kellyanne Conway.

00:48:04.660 I'm, I spent last week with the president in the oval office.

00:48:08.420 So I'm bringing high level advisors and elected officials opinion and ideas and, and, you know,

00:48:15.520 just policy to, to the forefront.

00:48:17.260 And then we talk about it and we're doing it three days a week right now.

00:48:19.880 I think we're going to increase that to maybe four days a week.

00:48:23.060 Uh, and we, we deliver it live at 5 PM every night.

00:48:25.720 So having a, it's going to be a great year and we're going to continue to do what we did.

00:48:29.160 And I'm looking forward to working with, uh, with you Glenn and the, and the blaze and

00:48:32.600 maybe we can, you know, talk regularly.

00:48:34.200 That'd be a lot of fun.

00:48:35.000 I'd love that.

00:48:35.700 So as far as the show is concerned, I'm also doing this opioid awareness push.

00:48:41.200 Now I've, I've teamed up with, um, Sinclair broadcast on the TV and broadcast side and,

00:48:47.620 uh, probably for the next four months, for, I think through April of 19, we're traveling

00:48:52.680 around the country, different cities.

00:48:54.220 We'll be in Dallas, we'll be in San Antonio.

00:48:56.140 We'll be in, um, Columbus, Ohio, Northwest, all over the country.

00:49:01.160 And we're talking opioids.

00:49:02.180 We had the first lady last time at Liberty university with Kellyanne Conway.

00:49:05.580 So we're, we're getting the opioid awareness message out to, to, to people.

00:49:08.980 It's a, it's an important message.

00:49:10.660 It's a, it's a deadly killer that we need to really, really attack as a country.

00:49:14.360 You're doing that because of the tragic loss of your son that we have, um, talked about.

00:49:22.300 And you were, you spoke about it in a very raw and real way.

00:49:26.080 And, um, uh, it was just, I think it touched a lot of people, Eric.

00:49:31.900 Um, uh, this is coming up now on your second Christmas without your son.

00:49:39.280 How are you doing?

00:49:42.220 Um, not well, um, I'll be honest with you.

00:49:44.520 I have to, one of the things you'll know about me, maybe your audience doesn't, but we'll

00:49:49.060 learn quickly is that there's, there's no on-air persona versus a, you know, a off-air

00:49:55.000 persona.

00:49:55.480 It's what you see on TV is, it's who I am.

00:49:57.560 And so I, I'd be lying if I said I'm doing well, or my wife and I are doing well.

00:50:01.480 It's a, it's a rough time of year.

00:50:03.160 Um, we lost our son in September of 17, a couple of weeks later, it was Thanksgiving.

00:50:09.900 The empty chair was happening and we were, we were about to all fall apart as a family

00:50:14.700 and, uh, President Trump called and, you know, it, it meant a lot for, for me that he called

00:50:20.340 on that moment because he knew it was a, it was the first holiday and he, he's subsequently

00:50:24.400 called on many holidays since, uh, it doesn't make it easier.

00:50:28.000 It just makes it, um, uh, makes you feel like something he cares.

00:50:32.900 And so the point is that, that because he showed so much empathy and compassion about

00:50:38.180 this topic and, and, and my loss and my wife's loss, um, I'm really pushing to get the message

00:50:43.760 out so other families don't, don't have to deal with this.

00:50:46.340 You know, interestingly, last night we finished a show at Sinclair in DC here, WGLA, and we came

00:50:52.640 off the hour on, on opioids and, you know, the producers came up and said, oh, that was,

00:50:57.120 that was amazing.

00:50:57.980 That's great.

00:50:58.520 You know, let's start working on San Antonio on January 10th.

00:51:01.700 We're going to be there.

00:51:02.260 And they're like, this is going to be, you know, great.

00:51:04.400 And I just looked at them, I go, do you know how hard this is for me to do an hour on the

00:51:09.800 loss of my, my only child, my son.

00:51:12.620 And they realized at that moment that this is really, really hard for me to do.

00:51:16.400 But I swear to you, Glenn, the only thing I have to hold on to that, that there's any sort

00:51:21.840 of positive that can come out of it is that we save one family from, from this utter hell.

00:51:27.460 And it really is a hell.

00:51:28.540 So that's what, that's what, uh, that's what gets me up in the morning.

00:51:31.940 If it weren't for that, I'm not sure.

00:51:34.180 I, I, um, my mother committed suicide.

00:51:37.080 And I remember when I did the tour for, um, uh, the Christmas sweater, uh, which is, um,

00:51:44.860 a fictional telling of, of, of that.

00:51:47.460 And I felt so compelled to do it.

00:51:50.880 Uh, I remember I got off the stage every, every night and I was just, I said, I can't

00:51:56.920 do it another day.

00:51:57.720 Just cannot do it another day.

00:51:59.460 Um, it's, uh, sometimes when you, when you hit these, uh, personal moments where it is

00:52:06.600 a, a cause yours being opioids, mine being suicide, it's, uh, it, it is, it takes

00:52:14.800 every ounce of strength you have to get through it.

00:52:17.420 And I command you for doing it.

00:52:18.800 All you, that feeling you felt, I can't do another day is what I felt last night and

00:52:22.800 after the first one.

00:52:23.740 And, and, uh, you know, it's a great message and it's a great, uh, you know, broadcast

00:52:28.880 partnership with Sinclair.

00:52:30.080 They've, they've, they've, they're, they blanket the country on, on local stations and

00:52:34.460 they, they, they're happy to announce 12 more.

00:52:37.240 I just looked at them like, okay, 12 more, you know, I mean, it's going to be rough, but

00:52:43.560 listen, if you can get the suicide message out, um, help people who, who are, or contemplating

00:52:51.800 and maybe make the phone call to the suicide prevention hotline, or if I can get the message

00:52:57.260 out to families, parents, talk to your kids, no one's, no one's immune.

00:53:01.520 Your kid's not too smart, too popular, too athletic, too white, too black, too gay, too

00:53:05.880 straight, too rich, too poor.

00:53:07.200 They'll all be touched or the kids.

00:53:09.640 It's one pill can kill and maybe we save a life or two.

00:53:13.200 But Eric Bolling continue in just a minute.

00:53:18.280 Eric Bolling, who has just announced a new three-year deal with Blaze TV, we're thrilled

00:53:30.900 to, uh, have you on, um, um, Eric, uh, he does, uh, Eric Bolling's America on Blaze TV

00:53:38.420 three, soon to be four days, um, a week and, um, and is, and is with all of the players in

00:53:44.500 Washington, knows them, uh, can you give me any perspective?

00:53:48.380 I want to touch on this real quick and then I want to get to something else, but he dropped?

00:53:53.460 Can we get him, can we get him back?

00:53:55.680 Wow, the deal's over already.

00:53:57.100 He signs three years and now he's gone.

00:53:58.500 He's just gone.

00:53:59.200 Wow.

00:53:59.740 Okay, see if he can get him back.

00:54:01.000 I want to ask him about the border, uh, uh, wall and then, uh, did we, did we schedule

00:54:05.680 him for, there he is, okay.

00:54:07.560 Yeah, I'm back.

00:54:08.520 Hey, Eric, how are you?

00:54:10.440 I'm good, Glenn, how are you?

00:54:11.520 Good, I want to talk to you about one quick thing, uh, politics, then we get something

00:54:15.100 more important, um, the border wall, uh, it looks like now we are, we're, we've, we've

00:54:22.080 caved on shutting the government down.

00:54:24.440 Does the president have another plan?

00:54:26.540 Like he's talked about building it through the Pentagon or what's the plan on the border

00:54:31.200 wall?

00:54:32.200 Yeah, we can talk about it.

00:54:33.440 I don't, I, I, I think he's going to build his wall one way or the other.

00:54:36.580 I agree that he can't cave on, on, I actually, I wish he would.

00:54:41.520 He would have not have caved on making Mexico pay for it.

00:54:44.200 I think that that still has to be part of it some ways.

00:54:46.740 Well, but we just, we just said, we're going to give him $5 billion.

00:54:51.340 I mean, we could have given the border construction people $5 billion, but we gave it to Mexico.

00:54:58.280 Yeah.

00:54:58.680 Well, listen, I, I, I'm, this is one I think he has to hold.

00:55:02.080 I think this is, this is one he has to figure out before, you know, before a reelection campaign,

00:55:06.380 but it's just something, um, if he caves on this, it's, it's, it's going to be one

00:55:11.200 that they want for him.

00:55:12.060 Okay.

00:55:12.700 Um, Eric, can I talk to you about something and you can feel free to say no, and we can

00:55:16.400 move on.

00:55:17.360 Um, but you said something to me when we did our podcast, uh, and you were very open and

00:55:23.600 honest.

00:55:24.040 Um, and I didn't follow up on it because I felt that I had put you through the ringer

00:55:29.040 enough, um, personally, but I think in this holiday season, uh, if you would address it,

00:55:36.320 I, I, I think it would be, um, enlightening.

00:55:39.980 You told me that, um, not only did your, uh, your son die the day he died, but your faith

00:55:47.520 did as well.

00:55:48.760 Yeah, we can talk about that.

00:55:50.120 You were a guy who went to church, if I'm not mistaken, every day, six days, six days,

00:55:56.360 six days.

00:55:56.940 Yeah.

00:55:57.160 I went five days a week at when I got to, to, to work, I would go over to St. Patrick's

00:56:02.700 and on Sunday, I went every Sunday and it was for many, for 10 years, I went six days a

00:56:08.620 week.

00:56:09.680 And now you say you don't have the last day I went to church was that day.

00:56:14.400 It was a Friday.

00:56:16.600 And are you, what's your relationship with God?

00:56:19.900 What's, what's your, what's happening?

00:56:24.600 It's, uh, it's complicated.

00:56:29.080 Um, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to figure out, I'm still trying to figure it out.

00:56:36.100 Um, I believe there's probably many people do that, you know, you're a good person.

00:56:41.800 You go to church, you, you sacrifice, you do the right thing.

00:56:46.040 You know, be charitable, be honest, take care of people.

00:56:51.100 You know, I can't tell him in terms of pull over and hand someone an umbrella.

00:56:54.900 I mean, I was just, you know, and, and, and in the hopes of, you know, having some, I guess

00:57:02.980 maybe it's a, it's not a right, it's not the correct way of thinking, but in hopes of

00:57:07.100 having some sort of protection against something as catastrophic as, is what happened to me.

00:57:11.540 I, you know, I lost my son and my, my career was kind of ended in my faith on the same day.

00:57:18.000 So yeah, still, still working it out.

00:57:22.120 So do you, do you still believe in God or is it a kind of, I'm, I'm angry or I don't know

00:57:30.380 who you are or I reject you?

00:57:32.880 What, what, where are you?

00:57:34.300 No, it's, it's not an, I reject you.

00:57:36.260 It's, it's, um, anger.

00:57:40.800 If, if I believe it's anger and if, if I don't believe anymore, it's what have I done?

00:57:48.140 Have I wasted all this time?

00:57:49.400 And I don't know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'll be honest with you.

00:57:52.260 I don't mind being honest with, with you in public.

00:57:55.060 I don't know.

00:57:56.200 I don't know where I am.

00:57:59.080 I don't know.

00:57:59.880 Are you, um, are you pursuing this or are you just letting it settle till things calm down?

00:58:06.880 No, I, I mean, it, it, the, the, the really strange thing about this, this loss is, you

00:58:13.920 know, you think about things like what happens if I lost this person or that, and when a loss

00:58:19.000 of this magnitude, I don't think there is a big, a greater loss in the world than losing

00:58:23.180 a child and only child, um, you get thrown into a depth that's literally inexplicable.

00:58:28.980 So the worst thing you could ever possibly, the lowest, the most worst feeling you could

00:58:33.060 ever think you could feel multiply it by, you know, a million.

00:58:37.100 It's such a devastating hole that you go in.

00:58:41.100 It's literally a daily struggle just to make it out of it.

00:58:44.200 Just to, just to see that, that, that, that, that there is a life.

00:58:47.020 And so to, to start tackling the big issues, like where's my faith, I, I, I need to, my

00:58:54.340 wife and I both need, need to heal.

00:58:56.140 Like I do this, the opioid, um, tour and she can't go cause she, it just breaks her apart.

00:59:02.740 Just, you know, seeing a picture.

00:59:05.420 And so it breaks me apart too.

00:59:06.880 Like last night, I, the producers didn't tell me that there was a picture of Eric Chase

00:59:10.400 and I in, in, in the middle of the show and it just popped up and it almost derailed me

00:59:15.780 for the whole show.

00:59:16.600 So it's, it's still that I didn't event here in DC for, uh, for opioids.

00:59:21.260 And I was a keynote speaker.

00:59:23.140 I got there and they were rolling pictures and I didn't know they were rolling pictures

00:59:26.040 of, of Eric and I, and I couldn't even speak.

00:59:28.680 I couldn't do the event.

00:59:29.620 I was in tears.

00:59:30.540 And so anyway, Eric, it's a daily struggle.

00:59:35.760 May we all pray for you and your wife.

00:59:38.880 Thank you, Glenn.

00:59:40.340 Um, try to enjoy the holiday and, um, and I, I just, there's no, there's no enjoyment.

00:59:51.580 I mean, it's called make it true.

00:59:53.420 That's what it literally is now.

00:59:55.180 But, um, so may you make it through the prayers.

00:59:59.480 God bless you, Eric.

01:00:01.200 Thank you, Glenn.

01:00:02.000 Thank you so much.

01:00:03.740 Hmm.

01:00:04.120 That's brave to, I mean, that's, that's brave to talk about like that.

01:00:07.580 I mean, that's, that's really, that's really incredible.

01:00:10.320 I can't even imagine what that guy has gone through.

01:00:12.760 I don't think, I don't think any of us know how we would react.

01:00:16.160 No.

01:00:16.840 It's easy to say, well, Eric, that's when you need your faith.

01:00:20.800 That's when you.

01:00:21.540 Sure.

01:00:21.740 But no, none of us know how we're going to react.

01:00:26.700 And I think if we deny that people would struggle with a situation like that, it's even to their, to level of the core of their faith, then we're letting people down.

01:00:35.140 Because when this does happen to people, and it does, you know, this is a very honest process.

01:00:41.860 Like, this is how you're going to feel.

01:00:43.560 I mean, I, I haven't had to deal with something like that.

01:00:46.340 And in my head, I know that if something like that happened, I, you'd, you'd have no choice, I think, to question everything that you've assumed about life.

01:00:56.360 Hopefully you come back to, you know, or you, you're able to get to the right place.

01:01:01.300 And I, I really pray Eric does as well.

01:01:03.220 And I think, you know, he's going to have his own journey on that.

01:01:05.420 And it's, that's tough.

01:01:06.420 But I mean, to be able to come out and talk about that in front of people and as difficult as you can tell it is for him, that is really important.

01:01:12.320 You know, that's, that's a really brave act for him to do not only what he just did on the air, but also with opioids and everything he's doing around the country.

01:01:20.480 Really important stuff.

01:01:21.900 Really brave and incredibly difficult.

01:01:24.020 He's doing that extreme personal sacrifice.

01:01:27.100 He's so honest.

01:01:28.120 If you missed the, if you missed the interview that I did with him for a podcast, I think you'll probably find it on YouTube now.

01:01:36.900 That's certainly, yeah, it's certainly available.

01:01:38.060 Yeah.

01:01:38.340 Um, and, and, and watch it, um, because this is the first time he really opened up, um, on a national platform about the death of his son.

01:01:50.420 And, uh, it was incredibly brave and incredibly raw.

01:01:55.260 Uh, and he is obviously a man who is, is going through a gigantic change in his life, um, and cannot see the blessings yet.

01:02:09.000 But most of us can't when we're, when we're in that, uh, we're in that space.

01:02:14.960 You know, he, it was brave of him to say, you know, I kind of looked at my faith differently.

01:02:21.800 I kind of looked at my service differently and nowhere really is that promised that, I mean, Jesus, um, you know, it seems like all of the good guys always get killed one way or another.

01:02:37.600 You know, you look at all of the martyrs, uh, that, that, you know, just stood and we're, we're saying, no, no, no, no.

01:02:48.240 I think you should read the Bible in your own language.

01:02:50.920 I don't think you should have to have it in Latin and go to a priest cause you can't read Latin burned at the stake.

01:02:56.120 Like all these really great people that lost their lives, all of the apostles and look at the stoning of Stephen.

01:03:06.240 Like, it's so funny.

01:03:07.540 I just read a story last night of, of a guy who survived the Chicago fire, uh, and it wiped his family out and they were just getting back on their feet and decided to go to, uh, Europe for a vacation.

01:03:26.120 With the family.

01:03:27.320 This is like 1903 or five, something like that.

01:03:31.160 And, um, the dad has to stay, but he said, I'll meet you over there.

01:03:36.220 So the mom and their, uh, four children, their four daughters are on this, on this boat.

01:03:44.600 And it's, it hits another ocean liner in the middle of the ocean and it sinks.

01:03:53.040 She lives.

01:03:54.220 And, uh, the children die and she just, she just, uh, wires to him when he, when she arrives in France, she wires back to her husband.

01:04:06.420 I survived alone.

01:04:09.120 I don't know what I'm going to do.

01:04:12.460 He gets onto a boat.

01:04:13.980 He goes over, he gets her.

01:04:16.140 Um, as they're crossing the ocean, the captain says, this is where it happened.

01:04:24.600 The captain marked in his journal that he noticed they never looked down to the sea.

01:04:29.220 They looked up.

01:04:30.040 And they came back to, uh, Chicago.

01:04:35.580 They had two other children.

01:04:37.920 One died at three, one died at seven.

01:04:41.360 Their pastor said, you're being punished.

01:04:43.680 You've done something wrong.

01:04:44.900 So they just surrender completely.

01:04:50.120 They moved to Israel and they start just helping people.

01:04:55.520 First, they, they go into world war one and they just start helping people.

01:05:00.060 Um, anybody who's wounded doesn't matter what side it's on.

01:05:03.220 Then they moved to Israel and eventually they build the children's hospital that is still serving people today.

01:05:11.940 And it doesn't matter if you're Arab or you're Jewish or you're Christian.

01:05:15.640 The policy of the hospital is you have to have help.

01:05:21.180 And they're there.

01:05:23.260 I, I, I don't know how people survive.

01:05:27.760 But as a very delicate dance, uh, with, with God of being able to let it go without forgetting, it's so difficult, but letting it go and knowing that there is some reason and it's a good reason that these things happen to us.

01:05:53.600 And my prayer for Eric and anyone else that is struggling is that you will hear the words, it's okay, all is well, everything is good, everything is as it should be.

01:06:13.600 Our puny little human brains cannot wrap around the idea of tragedy being good.

01:06:27.800 But in the end, if you can let it go and let it shape you in positive ways, look at what Eric is doing.

01:06:37.460 He's going to save lives.

01:06:39.280 That's a positive that has come out of this.

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01:08:01.920 We also have a guest on next hour, Helen Andrews, who has a really different perspective on life and social media because she has walked a horrific walk.

01:08:17.420 Yeah, her story is really fascinating.

01:08:20.180 She was on C-SPAN, and she got in basically what was an argument with an ex-boyfriend on C-SPAN, who sort of, by my reading of it, sort of ambushed her on live television.

01:08:30.860 It went viral and changed her life.

01:08:33.500 This is about, I mean, what, seven or eight years ago?

01:08:36.600 And how her journey of how she dealt with that and where that's turned out is really fascinating.

01:08:42.720 She's going to join us next, a compelling, compelling story from Helen Andrews.

01:08:48.960 Coming up.

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01:09:02.540 No one has yet figured out what rules should govern the new frontiers of public shaming that the Internet has opened.

01:09:20.580 New rules are obviously required.

01:09:22.600 Shame is now both global and permanent, to a degree, unprecedented in human history.

01:09:28.620 No more moving to the next town to escape your bad name.

01:09:32.640 However, you can go as far as you want.

01:09:36.560 Wait as long as you want.

01:09:38.980 But your disgrace is only ever a Google search away.

01:09:44.900 The right to be forgotten.

01:09:48.080 Taking the human memory and making it perfect forever.

01:09:53.460 What are the new rules?

01:09:55.000 What is it like to be chased out of the public sphere and having to move to the other side of the planet only to realize it doesn't stop there?

01:10:06.180 Helen Andrews.

01:10:08.780 Shamestorm in one minute.

01:10:10.500 It was October 2010 when our next guest appeared on a panel to promote a book of essays by young conservatives.

01:10:23.960 Proud to be right.

01:10:25.620 Voices of the next conservative generation.

01:10:28.760 The moderator was Jonah Goldberg.

01:10:31.020 One of the other panelists was my ex-boyfriend.

01:10:34.240 During the question and answering, Todd, the boyfriend, launched into a rant about Helen's personal failings.

01:10:44.920 He accused me of opposing Obamacare on the grounds that it would diminish human suffering, which allegedly I preferred to increase.

01:10:53.300 Of wanting to appeal laws against fistfights for the same reasons, of being sadistic and scheming, a heartbreaker in his own personal life, and generally living according to a disturbing and brutal set of values.

01:11:07.520 For three minutes and 45 seconds, which unfortunately for me, were captured on film for broadcast two weeks later on C-SPAN, he made an impassioned case that I was a sociopath.

01:11:20.360 It stuck.

01:11:21.240 Helen Andrews is that woman that was on C-SPAN.

01:11:26.380 Welcome to the program.

01:11:28.180 Thanks so much for having me, Glenn.

01:11:30.960 Wow, Helen.

01:11:32.040 You've been through the ringer and back.

01:11:34.060 Are you back yet?

01:11:36.860 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:38.020 It's been eight years since that happened.

01:11:41.760 But, you know, just the week or the very day that I sat down to write this essay, my husband came home and said,

01:11:47.960 Honey, you won't believe what happened.

01:11:49.440 I was at a conference and we were talking about bad breakups in the conservative movement.

01:11:54.780 And one guy pulled out his phone and said, Oh, my goodness, if you want to talk about bad conservative breakups, you have to see this C-SPAN thing.

01:12:02.960 The poor guy had no idea that he was talking to my husband.

01:12:06.840 So, you know, after eight years, it would have faded away.

01:12:11.580 But no, it still still pops up.

01:12:13.200 That's the thing.

01:12:13.840 The Internet is forever.

01:12:15.700 Yeah.

01:12:15.860 So I want to talk to you a little bit about there's something in Europe that they're they're trying to push through.

01:12:20.820 And that is the right to be forgotten, which is very, very human.

01:12:25.100 I mean, we do forget things and and things fade.

01:12:28.960 But with the Internet, it's permanently there always and you'll never can escape it.

01:12:34.720 So tell me what tell me what happened that day.

01:12:39.100 And tell me your journey here in the last, you know, eight years.

01:12:42.960 Sure.

01:12:45.600 Well, as soon as the video went up on the Internet, those three minutes and 45 seconds were instantly clipped and posted on YouTube.

01:12:56.160 And they got half a million hits in the first 48 hours.

01:13:01.120 Oh, my God.

01:13:01.580 All the cable news networks did a segment about it.

01:13:04.200 It even made the local network news here in D.C.

01:13:07.700 It was written up on Washington Post, you know, guy mental on ex-girlfriend at C-SPAN panel.

01:13:16.300 So all of my co-workers saw the video.

01:13:19.100 All of my friends saw the video.

01:13:21.260 It just became a huge story.

01:13:23.500 How old were you when you sat down for that interview?

01:13:26.640 And you were because you were 22 when you dated this guy, right?

01:13:30.680 Yeah.

01:13:31.180 And I think I was 24 when the video went big.

01:13:34.880 So, you know, I, yeah, I was 24 years old and basically thought, well, that's my life over now.

01:13:42.200 Right.

01:13:42.660 And you admit that you were pretty, you were pretty brutal to him.

01:13:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:47.760 Well, and, you know, that's where I eventually arrived.

01:13:51.960 You know, I thought about, you know, Todd's talking for four minutes about what a bad person I am.

01:13:59.480 And, you know, well, you know, honestly, he could have gone on for four hours about what a bad person I was to him and not said anything untrue, you know.

01:14:07.780 So who am I to say that I didn't deserve being embarrassed, you know.

01:14:12.640 So after you had, you know, half a million hits in 48 hours, how did your life begin to change?

01:14:19.840 I think I didn't realize at first just how permanent a part of my life this thing was going to be.

01:14:32.000 I thought it would just be a week of bad news coverage, and that would be embarrassing, but then I would move on.

01:14:36.420 And it started off with little things, like I would be walking down the street on one occasion with my parents, and people would stop and point and say, hey, C-SPAN girl.

01:14:47.960 About a year after the incident, I decided I wanted to move on from my job at National Review.

01:14:55.220 And funniest thing, no matter how many resumes I sent out, I couldn't get a job interview, which made sense.

01:15:02.740 I put myself in the shoes of a prospective employer, and I figured, yeah, if I were trying to hire for a position and somebody's first Google result was some rant about how she's maybe a psycho, you know, yeah, I might look at other candidates, too.

01:15:16.540 But, you know, that's easy enough for them to say, but for me, it was a pretty serious blow to not be able to find a job.

01:15:24.540 And eventually, as you mentioned, I moved to Australia, moved to the other side of the world, and even there, because that's the thing about Google, it's completely global, it followed me to another hemisphere.

01:15:38.540 And so when you were looking for a job there, you couldn't find a job for like 18 months because people, the first thing they would do is Google your name.

01:15:46.400 That's right.

01:15:46.880 And then once I did find a job at a think tank, it still followed me there.

01:15:50.660 You know, I put out my first report on non-profit regulation, right, like the way charities are regulated in Australia, a pretty, you know, benign topic.

01:16:00.380 But the minute the report was released, an Australian MP tweeted a link to the video and said, I don't trust this person's views on charity regulation.

01:16:11.440 You know, not even some schmo on the Internet, but an elected official has decided to use that as ammo against, you know, any public statement I might want to make in the future.

01:16:21.660 So it can be an all-purpose rebuttal.

01:16:23.540 I have to ask the obvious question here from the right, and that is, do you think it would have been the same if you were a liberal and not a conservative?

01:16:36.420 No, I don't think so.

01:16:38.440 You know, people always say don't read the comments, and that is definitely my advice to anybody else that this ever happens to.

01:16:45.120 Don't ever read the comments.

01:16:46.620 But I couldn't help myself.

01:16:47.740 And the thing that I noticed over and over again is that these people would say, well, you know, gossip is bad, and we shouldn't make fun of people for bad things in their personal lives.

01:16:58.700 It's none of our business.

01:17:00.180 But in this case, this chick is obviously some kind of Christian right-wing nutjob, so therefore that makes her a hypocrite, and that's why it's okay for us to talk about it.

01:17:10.240 That's something that a lot of people do psychologically when they join in on these Internet pylons.

01:17:15.900 You know, they come up with a reason for why, no, it's actually okay in this case.

01:17:20.040 You know, it's justified.

01:17:21.680 When really, it's just they're joining in because it's fun.

01:17:25.100 Is there any difference, do you think, between, I mean, other than the final outcome, is there any difference between this and the mobs that used to dunk the witches or burn the witches?

01:17:36.920 A lot of people just joined that didn't, you know, just didn't have anything else to do.

01:17:41.720 Oh, yeah, and the way that you know it's completely irrational, you know, that it has no basis in actual justice or truth or logic, is that arguing back never, ever helps.

01:17:57.820 You know, if anybody who finds themselves in the middle of one of these storms, your first instinct is always going to be, oh, well, I'll just explain my side of the story, and then everyone will understand.

01:18:08.500 But because nobody in one of these pylons is interested in the truth, anything you say is just going to be twisted out of context or made to make it sound worse, or it's going to be like, you know, crying when a bully attacks you in the schoolyard.

01:18:25.420 You know, nobody's listening, so rational argument isn't going to help anything.

01:18:30.700 Holy cow.

01:18:32.620 How you survive this is beyond me, and that's, I guess, where I want to go next.

01:18:37.500 How did you survive it?

01:18:38.800 What did you take from it?

01:18:40.080 How should you fight these things if it happens to you?

01:18:45.720 Helen Andrews will continue in one minute.

01:18:48.560 Do you have any outrage-addicted people in your life?

01:18:55.760 Oh, you know what pisses me off about that?

01:18:57.920 You want to help them, but you're constantly dodging things that are being thrown, and you don't know how.

01:19:04.960 Try giving them a copy of Glenn Beck's latest book, Addicted to Outrage.

01:19:08.480 It's much cheaper than therapy, and hurts less than a book to your head.

01:19:14.400 And it's more fun.

01:19:15.440 Addicted to Outrage, the new book from Glenn Beck.

01:19:20.280 Available everywhere books are sold.

01:19:26.040 This is the Glenn Beck Program, and we're talking to Helen Andrews, a conservative writer.

01:19:32.160 She wrote a piece in First Things called Shamestorm.

01:19:36.160 Helen, you brought up something I think is really interesting about how people won't react to rational thought in these moments.

01:19:43.140 And it strikes me that when these things start, when these sort of online shame trains begin, we in ourselves wind up excusing a lot of awful behavior in an attempt to pile on.

01:19:58.200 You use a great example, which was Kevin Williamson.

01:20:01.200 We love Kevin.

01:20:01.940 He's been on the show before.

01:20:03.200 He went to the Atlantic.

01:20:04.200 People don't remember the story.

01:20:05.260 And they unearthed some comment that he had made about abortion.

01:20:09.480 And the controversy really wasn't about the comment.

01:20:12.680 Afterwards, people started saying, I'm fearful to work with Kevin Williamson.

01:20:17.860 You know, 25 percent.

01:20:19.320 He might want to kill 25 percent of the women who work here.

01:20:22.760 And you point out correctly, no one actually believed Kevin Williamson was a threat to anyone around them.

01:20:29.560 They had justified in this moral sort of crusade the idea that they could say anything about this person and lie about their own feelings because this was so justified.

01:20:42.580 Did you feel like you were kind of at the other end of that going through this process?

01:20:46.180 Sure.

01:20:49.080 You know, I would read in comments or blog posts people saying things about me that were just not true, that were just factually, easily, checkably false.

01:21:00.300 And I kind of wondered, how is it that these people who have never met me care so much about ruining my life?

01:21:07.020 What did I ever do to make them so angry with me?

01:21:09.860 And eventually I realized that they're not angry at me.

01:21:12.520 They don't care all that much about me one way or the other.

01:21:15.120 Or they've got their own reasons.

01:21:17.140 They're angry at women or they're angry at conservatives or they're just angry in general and like lashing out.

01:21:23.720 Or they just enjoy the rush of feeling outrage.

01:21:26.380 You know, you really, once you read enough of the comments or follow enough of these shame storms, you realize it's not about you.

01:21:34.860 It's not about the person at the middle of it.

01:21:37.320 It's just about, there's just a pattern to the dynamic of the way these things always go.

01:21:42.500 It's like a wave or an avalanche.

01:21:45.120 So, how do you deal with it?

01:21:49.640 Because I would imagine you've tried all of the, you know, argue, let it go, don't read it, be nice.

01:21:59.140 I mean, what works?

01:22:00.760 You know, it's funny.

01:22:04.680 It took me a long time to get to a place where I'm okay with it.

01:22:08.640 But once I did, I realized I was actually grateful.

01:22:13.240 That this, I truly believe it was part of a bigger plan that this should happen to me.

01:22:18.560 That, you know, I was a pretty rotten person when I was 24.

01:22:21.860 I was selfish and careless and very proud.

01:22:26.240 And I don't know if anything short of this kind of knock upside the head could have done it for me.

01:22:34.040 You know, I was raised in a very secular household.

01:22:37.880 You know, the only church we recognized was the Church of NPR.

01:22:40.440 But it was only in college and after going into conservative journalism that I met any Christians at all.

01:22:50.440 And one of the things that one of them said to me after this whole C-SPAN thing happened was,

01:22:54.640 You know, Helen, there is no humility without humiliation.

01:23:00.500 And gosh, was that true.

01:23:02.560 You know, I was just a very proud person.

01:23:05.680 My instinct was always to think that I don't deserve this bad thing that's happening to me.

01:23:10.660 But that saying that just stuck in my head, there is no humility without humiliation,

01:23:17.340 led me to some self-reflection and realizing that, you know, yeah,

01:23:21.180 the only solution here is to try and become a better person.

01:23:26.640 So that was my lesson.

01:23:28.780 So let me ask you, because I think that's a great lesson to learn.

01:23:32.540 And one I have learned through the years.

01:23:35.860 Sure have.

01:23:37.220 Shut up.

01:23:38.940 But it's important that we recognize, you know,

01:23:46.700 that, you know, recognize our place in the universe and time and space.

01:23:52.020 However, it also seems that no matter how much you change,

01:23:58.220 it's not going to, they're just going to say you're only doing that because of X, Y, and Z.

01:24:03.520 So you never escape that.

01:24:06.920 Does that make sense to you?

01:24:08.200 Have you experienced that?

01:24:11.520 Absolutely.

01:24:12.080 Absolutely.

01:24:12.400 Absolutely.

01:24:13.360 That there's no, you know, there's no way to indicate that you've changed or reformed,

01:24:21.000 which, you know, the only thing that, you know,

01:24:24.820 there's nothing you can do to change how other people think.

01:24:28.620 You know, they're not your problem.

01:24:30.720 You only have control over you.

01:24:32.960 But one thing that I've certainly taken away is that when I see other people

01:24:37.320 who have been through these kinds of shame storms, or I hear rumors about somebody,

01:24:41.880 oh, he did some kind of bad thing in the past, or she's guilty of this.

01:24:45.960 If it's been a while, I always start from the default of assuming,

01:24:50.600 unless they indicate or prove to me otherwise,

01:24:53.180 that they have changed and that they have become a better person.

01:24:55.760 Give people the benefit of the doubt.

01:24:58.100 Yeah, it seems like we have, we're living in a society that just doesn't ever forgive.

01:25:03.520 Yeah, well, you know, I've gotten a lot of feedback ever since this essay was published.

01:25:12.520 You know, some people, some people whose names I recognize and have seen on TV

01:25:16.860 reached out and said, something like this happened to me.

01:25:20.580 Thank you for, you know, including a ray of hope at the end of your story.

01:25:25.440 But the messages that got to me the most were from, you know, people in a small town

01:25:32.040 who nobody had ever heard of, who aren't that famous,

01:25:35.140 but whose lives have been wrecked or overturned by events like this.

01:25:41.720 You know, they said I was the worst person on the Internet for 48 hours,

01:25:45.620 and then everybody else moved on.

01:25:47.700 But I'm still here living amidst the wreckage.

01:25:52.200 There's a guy, I could spend so much time talking to you, Helen.

01:25:54.260 One question before we go, we've got about one minute.

01:25:57.040 You wound up eventually reconnecting with your ex-boyfriend where this whole incident started,

01:26:01.760 and you've talked to him since.

01:26:04.360 What's your relationship like now?

01:26:07.120 How does he see this?

01:26:08.880 Yeah, no, it's quite positive.

01:26:10.840 You know, because he suffered just as much as I did.

01:26:15.100 You know, he eventually lost his job over this incident.

01:26:20.080 And he's kind of, you know, people made fun of him on the Internet.

01:26:24.180 He finds it hard to get gigs now.

01:26:27.040 And so we both kind of learned a lesson.

01:26:29.980 He, I asked him if he would do it over again, if he had the choice,

01:26:33.860 and he said, absolutely not.

01:26:35.380 Not a chance.

01:26:36.400 Yeah.

01:26:37.180 So, yeah, no, and I forgive him and he forgives me,

01:26:40.660 and that's really the moral of this story.

01:26:43.780 Helen, thank you for having the guts, first of all, for not giving up

01:26:49.040 and then finding the positive message in it and changing your life.

01:26:56.980 I think this is a great story of redemption that's not going to go viral,

01:27:02.620 but it should because it's important,

01:27:05.740 and I think it's going to happen to all of us in one way or another.

01:27:09.160 Helen, thank you.

01:27:09.840 Thank you so much, Glenn.

01:27:11.780 You bet.

01:27:12.660 Helen Andrews, you can read this story.

01:27:15.440 It's fascinating to read.

01:27:17.720 And she really goes into great detail of other people

01:27:21.720 and the things that she tried along the way.

01:27:25.880 You can see it.

01:27:27.000 It's at First Things.

01:27:28.120 It's called Shamestorm.

01:27:29.880 Just Google search Helen Andrews and Shamestorm.

01:27:34.800 Well, we'll tweet it out as well.

01:27:35.920 Yeah.

01:27:36.340 Maybe you shouldn't Google her because then you'd see the YouTube.

01:27:39.180 You're going into it, you bastard.

01:27:40.500 What are you doing?

01:27:41.280 She's a psychopath.

01:27:42.520 She's a really bad person, I've heard.

01:27:44.640 At World of Stew, at Glenn Beck.

01:27:45.760 We'll get that tweeted in the next couple of minutes here.

01:27:50.540 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

01:27:53.680 I never watch America's Got Talent.

01:27:56.180 I just don't watch TV, generally speaking.

01:27:58.080 But my son came to me with YouTube and said,

01:28:01.760 Dad, you have to see this woman.

01:28:03.340 Vicky Barbalock is her name.

01:28:05.360 She's 60.

01:28:06.220 You're 60 years old.

01:28:07.040 I'm the 61 this year.

01:28:09.060 You're 61.

01:28:10.280 Okay.

01:28:11.160 And she came out on stage and I don't remember who it was,

01:28:14.440 Naomi Campbell or somebody said, what are you going to do?

01:28:16.020 And she said, I'm a ballerina.

01:28:17.920 And she's clearly not a ballerina.

01:28:20.680 And she followed that with, no, I'm kidding.

01:28:22.800 I like to eat.

01:28:24.200 So I'm not a ballerina.

01:28:25.620 And it went on from there.

01:28:27.040 And she, you came back, I think, two times after that.

01:28:31.140 I think there was, you know, I think there was like four more shows

01:28:34.040 till the last final.

01:28:34.980 Okay.

01:28:35.560 And you are now going back for the Champions show.

01:28:39.360 Champions.

01:28:39.760 Where are they now?

01:28:40.500 I'm like, I'm in the driveway.

01:28:41.660 I haven't left.

01:28:42.500 I just got out of there.

01:28:44.200 So you, now like you really, you, you are from California.

01:28:47.400 Yeah.

01:28:48.480 You've been a comedian.

01:28:50.560 20 years.

01:28:51.180 20 years.

01:28:51.740 And you kind of found yourself in a place to where you were too old for your own club.

01:28:56.300 I mean, yeah.

01:28:56.780 I mean, I didn't start till I was like nearly 40.

01:28:58.920 And I didn't know that was not a good idea.

01:29:01.960 Luckily, I wouldn't have started, you know.

01:29:03.540 I probably would have that because I am an idiot.

01:29:05.600 But I mean, and so, you know, I was, I was having a great time doing it.

01:29:09.880 But when I would go, no matter what would happen to me, like E!

01:29:12.860 Television would say I'm in the next breakthrough from the comedy store.

01:29:15.340 I would go to these agents in Hollywood and they go, well, we, we, we, you're too fat.

01:29:20.160 You're too old.

01:29:20.660 You're too, there's nothing we can do for you.

01:29:23.080 And so, and so, I mean, I, I just, I just kept hoping something would happen.

01:29:27.080 But I just, you know, I see Steve Martin said, you get so good.

01:29:29.660 They can't ignore you.

01:29:30.940 And that was my only plan.

01:29:32.000 Just keep doing it.

01:29:32.900 Keep loving it.

01:29:33.840 But I kept thinking maybe Steve was wrong.

01:29:36.140 Then America's Got Talent happened.

01:29:38.020 And what happened?

01:29:38.760 That show had such a gigantic reach.

01:29:40.760 And the people it brought to me, it just, then Hollywood had to come around.

01:29:46.140 Your dad.

01:29:48.200 Yeah, my dad played for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

01:29:49.900 He played for the Steelers.

01:29:51.140 I'm not bragging, Becca.

01:29:51.980 I just wanted you to know what the daughter of an NFL football player looks like.

01:29:54.940 Because you never saw one before.

01:29:56.480 This is no padding.

01:29:57.460 This is natural.

01:29:58.900 So, yeah.

01:29:59.440 And so he had, you know, he'd been hit around a lot.

01:30:02.000 You know, leather helmet time for him, 1950, 51.

01:30:05.320 And so, as I grew up, he was daffy and daffy and daffier.

01:30:08.660 But he was just lots of fun.

01:30:10.300 And, you know, he, he was just a great dad.

01:30:13.940 But he was totally daffy.

01:30:15.600 So, where do you get this?

01:30:18.080 From your dad or from your mom?

01:30:19.860 Because you're.

01:30:20.740 I think, you know, I just, I was also a little fat little kid.

01:30:23.700 I was, like, hugely fat.

01:30:25.060 I was, like, 220 at 12.

01:30:27.180 Wow.

01:30:27.340 And so, I was, my birth weight was 104 pounds.

01:30:30.020 So, I mean, I was always.

01:30:31.220 You've really let yourself go.

01:30:32.640 I'm just thin now.

01:30:34.540 So, my, so my life was a child that was bullied.

01:30:37.500 And I would make the fat jokes first.

01:30:38.980 So, fat jokes were a defense.

01:30:40.680 I learned that in my whole life that anything good happened to me came because I could make people laugh.

01:30:45.480 So, it was always something that I did.

01:30:47.500 I worked for my parents at their carpet store for 20 years.

01:30:50.120 And I didn't care if people bought carpet for me.

01:30:51.840 But if they didn't laugh at my joke, I was devastated.

01:30:54.740 So, I mean, it was all, I've always been about making people laugh.

01:30:57.760 The stuff in your, the stuff in your act, for instance, you know, you never drink alone.

01:31:02.820 Yeah.

01:31:03.040 Like, you know, I'm very proud of that.

01:31:05.440 A lot of the other moms, they would sit around and drink all day.

01:31:08.340 But I was disciplined because, you know, only alcoholics drink alone.

01:31:10.840 I read all the pamphlets.

01:31:11.780 I would always, I always waited until the kids get home from school.

01:31:16.040 That's, you know, sometimes I call in a fake dental appointment, you know, when I'm so parched.

01:31:20.400 Yeah, right.

01:31:20.960 But I did my best.

01:31:22.260 Right, right.

01:31:23.500 And, and, and when you, when you took your kids on field trips.

01:31:27.820 Oh, yeah, that's another thing.

01:31:29.060 My mother, you know, that came from the last generation.

01:31:31.060 I think of women that party 24-7.

01:31:32.900 You know, and I got kids.

01:31:34.100 I'm thinking party, but the party was over, right?

01:31:35.980 I didn't know.

01:31:36.800 My mom and her friends always, always brought flasks on field trips.

01:31:40.180 I mean, like, I'm going to get on a bus sober with first graders.

01:31:43.380 Not now, not ever.

01:31:44.140 I don't care what they do to me, right?

01:31:45.780 So I go on my daughter's first field trip and I take out my flask and it is, it's not

01:31:49.840 a big algae flask, you know, it's a very pretty, it's a little two-ouncer.

01:31:52.740 Right.

01:31:53.080 It's not, okay, how loaded could you get off of two ounces anyway?

01:31:55.680 Right, right.

01:31:56.440 But I take it out and I take a little flat, you know, sip and all the other moms on the field

01:32:00.820 trip, they just go ballistic.

01:32:02.680 They're like, you know, she's got a flask, she's got a flask, you know?

01:32:04.840 And I'm like, calm down.

01:32:06.120 You know, biatches?

01:32:08.180 I'm not driving a bus.

01:32:09.680 I am not driving.

01:32:10.420 Relax.

01:32:13.340 So how much of your life is true?

01:32:17.160 Are we going to find out you're living in a mansion?

01:32:19.080 Yes, you are.

01:32:21.540 If I keep going, I'm going to buy a triple Y.

01:32:24.520 You know, that's pretty much, you know, and the thing about the drinking alone, that was

01:32:28.060 my mother.

01:32:29.000 Every day I came home from school, my mother would sit there with her deck of cards between

01:32:33.480 her legs, her mumu on inside out with a large amount of safety pins here in case 30 people

01:32:37.700 needed a safety pin on every given day.

01:32:39.840 She was a president of the PTA.

01:32:41.500 She was a treasurer of the women's club.

01:32:43.080 She was all those things.

01:32:44.640 And she, you know, we'd come home and the first beer would open, boom, when we'd walk

01:32:49.960 in that side door.

01:32:50.760 And my mother was a fun woman.

01:32:53.280 I started when I started stand up telling that story that audiences got worried for me that

01:32:58.340 I had this terrible childhood with a crazy alcoholic mother.

01:33:01.020 It wasn't like that.

01:33:02.080 My mother was a blast and she was, it wasn't like that.

01:33:05.140 So I took that story of my mother and I put it on me.

01:33:08.060 And I mean, I do love to party.

01:33:09.800 I'm not lying about that.

01:33:11.040 Right.

01:33:11.180 Box wine is my life.

01:33:12.340 But, um, it's, but so everything in my, everything that I, that I talk about is coming from a

01:33:18.760 truth that I know, you know, and you, but you do live in a beautiful trailer, Glenn, you

01:33:24.120 cannot dynamite me.

01:33:25.580 I've waited five years to buy the second best trailer in my trailer park.

01:33:28.940 And I would like look at their trash can for like five years.

01:33:31.860 I'd like what's in there.

01:33:33.320 I knew they liked Applebee's.

01:33:34.500 That's all they knew.

01:33:35.120 And then one day the trash was empty and I called the trailer park realtor, Les.

01:33:38.680 He's like 90.

01:33:39.380 I'm like, Les, I want to buy this trailer.

01:33:41.140 He loaned me the money.

01:33:42.460 I started AGT at the same time as trying to get this dream trailer.

01:33:46.060 It all worked out.

01:33:46.940 But I mean, I mean, I, this, I am so proud.

01:33:50.080 I live on top of the hill.

01:33:51.000 Look at F.

01:33:51.460 It's beautiful.

01:33:52.140 So you're, you're out of the slums.

01:33:53.540 You're, you're looking down on the people.

01:33:55.460 The old trailer part of it.

01:33:56.400 I call that part of the park, the ghetto.

01:33:58.140 I always call this the Heights.

01:34:00.280 I don't talk to anyone below the lake, which is actually a drainage ditch made to look like

01:34:04.720 a lake, but I don't speak to those people anymore.

01:34:07.220 I wish I could, but I cannot.

01:34:09.360 Right.

01:34:09.840 Well, you're in a different class now.

01:34:11.020 They can look up on the hill and be inspired by what you've done.

01:34:13.400 That's what I try to say.

01:34:14.560 Right.

01:34:14.920 Don't give up your dream.

01:34:19.620 So, you know, if you sold your high class top of the hill trailer park, you know, trailer

01:34:27.780 there in California, you could probably live in a 20,000 square foot home here in Texas.

01:34:33.900 You know, I love, you know, I always had a dream seven years ago, my friend, uh, Brett

01:34:38.560 Frank, who lives in Denton.

01:34:39.840 He saw me in Hollywood, flew me out here for his birthday party in Denton, his 30th birthday.

01:34:43.100 I two-stepped all night.

01:34:44.440 I had the time of my life.

01:34:45.720 He and I took my promo pack over here to the Dallas improv seven years ago, asked him if

01:34:50.900 I could do a set there.

01:34:51.900 They never, you know, got back to me.

01:34:53.420 It took me seven years to get here.

01:34:55.260 I've always wanted to be in Texas.

01:34:57.280 I, something mystical and romantic.

01:34:59.020 And ever since that night, and you know, Denton was on the border, but I mean, I love

01:35:03.140 it here.

01:35:03.480 I would love to have a place on a lake here, a trailer.

01:35:06.240 I would, you know, it'd have to be, I don't have to be a trailer.

01:35:08.880 I don't like drywall.

01:35:09.440 I'm going to make that right now.

01:35:10.240 I just don't feel comfortable around it.

01:35:13.320 I like to be slightly off the ground.

01:35:15.140 See, in this part of the country, though, you're the first to be sucked up.

01:35:19.020 You know what?

01:35:19.360 You're right.

01:35:19.780 In this part of the country, I'm going to take it back.

01:35:21.520 I'm going to have to do, I'm going to have to get, I'm going to have to face it.

01:35:24.300 Right.

01:35:24.600 I don't want to get blown to Kansas.

01:35:26.200 Right.

01:35:26.520 Or you could have an underground trailer.

01:35:27.980 Part of your trailer is underground that you go for safety.

01:35:30.780 Back in just a second with Vicki Barbalock.

01:35:33.260 She is the winner of America's Got Talent Top 10.

01:35:37.240 She is now going to be in the Champions edition on NBC.

01:35:40.540 It begins January 7th.

01:35:43.180 So Vicki is on tour now.

01:35:46.320 She's going to Tacoma.

01:35:48.200 Oh, Tacoma.

01:35:49.120 I used to live by there.

01:35:50.300 Now it's been 30 years, but.

01:35:51.760 So pretty.

01:35:52.560 Yeah, it's beautiful.

01:35:53.540 And a lot of trailer people.

01:35:54.940 A lot of trailer people.

01:35:55.860 You love it.

01:35:56.660 Then you're going to Portland.

01:35:58.480 Yeah.

01:35:58.900 Are you crazy?

01:36:00.080 I'm excited to the Portlandia where it stays weird.

01:36:03.940 The voodoo donuts.

01:36:05.620 Yep.

01:36:06.820 Good luck.

01:36:07.520 Women and Women First.

01:36:08.160 Good luck.

01:36:08.520 Women and Women First while you're there.

01:36:09.980 Have you seen it?

01:36:10.720 Oh, I'd love that.

01:36:11.780 What's that?

01:36:12.400 It's the, Portlandia is the show.

01:36:13.760 It's a sketch comedy show.

01:36:15.180 And they're, I don't know, maybe their most famous sketches is a feminist bookstore.

01:36:19.200 Yes.

01:36:19.560 Oh, yeah.

01:36:19.900 Which is a real bookstore there.

01:36:21.320 And it's insane that, I love that sketch.

01:36:24.620 It's going to be, yeah, I'm so excited.

01:36:26.500 Then Nashville, Tennessee at Zaney's, Huntsville, Alabama, Stand Up Live, Stardom Comedy Club

01:36:33.260 in Hoover, Alabama.

01:36:34.880 I can't wait to get there.

01:36:36.080 Naples, Florida, Off the Hook.

01:36:38.020 And then Rochester, New York, Comedy at the Carlson.

01:36:40.840 That's just in January.

01:36:42.240 Yeah.

01:36:42.700 And then, yeah, it's crazy fun.

01:36:44.160 I mean, I'm really excited about going around.

01:36:45.800 It's what I always dreamed of doing.

01:36:46.880 I would imagine some people compare you to kind of Roseanne.

01:36:50.960 Yeah.

01:36:51.620 How do you feel about that?

01:36:52.680 Well, all fat people look alike.

01:36:54.140 And she did live in a trailer and we have brown hair.

01:36:58.380 And in fact, you know, when I first met her, she left the comedy store before I came into

01:37:01.780 the comedy store.

01:37:02.680 And I always was worried when she saw me, would she feel that I'm, you know, hacking her?

01:37:07.360 But I was doing this show called Funniest Mom in America.

01:37:10.200 She was the host.

01:37:11.500 I was like, holy crap, she's going to, is she here the night I auditioned?

01:37:14.760 They said no.

01:37:15.480 And then I heard this hacking laugh and I knew it was her.

01:37:18.480 And she came up to me and she was so kind.

01:37:20.600 And she said, I love you.

01:37:21.580 And she totally got that we were different.

01:37:24.040 And, and, and I wrote for her and she was really good to me.

01:37:27.300 You did write for her?

01:37:28.280 Wow.

01:37:28.840 So it was wonderful.

01:37:29.880 Yeah.

01:37:30.040 I hear, um, she's not easy to work with.

01:37:33.440 I, you know, I, I, uh, I, I just, you know, I just realized we weren't going to be best

01:37:37.620 friends because she was who she was.

01:37:39.140 She was, you know, Roseanne and I was a little me.

01:37:41.580 Right.

01:37:41.800 So I would just send her this stuff and she would send me a check and she was kind and

01:37:45.600 she had me open for her in Vegas once.

01:37:47.400 And, and it was, yeah, it was, uh, so are you, um, are you somebody who, uh, I mean you

01:37:53.820 win the million dollars or whatever it is and you, um, you know, you're a big, huge star

01:37:59.200 and you're going cross country.

01:38:00.860 What, what, what, what, what's going to change about you?

01:38:03.780 You know, I, I, you know, I, I don't know that that's much going to change.

01:38:08.520 I think because this big success hit me when I'm 60, I think that you're, it's just different

01:38:14.240 than if you hit your earlier.

01:38:16.420 I mean, I got my grandkids a go-kart for Christmas.

01:38:19.800 That was like a dream come true.

01:38:21.200 I'm going to say that.

01:38:22.160 But other than that, I mean, like I I'm going to, I'm not leaving my trailer.

01:38:25.780 I might get another trailer in LA when I'm working there, but I mean, my whole, I don't

01:38:30.140 think I've been so happy doing standup.

01:38:32.120 I've been just so happy the last 20 years.

01:38:34.300 What did you do before that?

01:38:35.580 I worked for my parents' carpet store for 20 years.

01:38:37.780 I mean, it was crazy.

01:38:39.200 I mean, it was just, they, my parents just, it was the craziest time.

01:38:43.040 And that's why comics go, comedy's a struggle.

01:38:45.780 It's so hard.

01:38:46.640 I'm like, try working at a carpet store with your crazy parents for 20 years.

01:38:53.040 Because they would, uh, they would sleep at the carpet store.

01:38:55.800 Our carpet shop was attached to a liquor store.

01:38:57.680 Literally by the wall was a liquor store, the wall, liquor store, us.

01:39:00.980 So my parents were like, we would start drinking in the afternoon.

01:39:03.300 They'd pass out about nine o'clock when we closed.

01:39:05.720 People would come in in the morning.

01:39:06.840 The door wasn't locked.

01:39:07.880 They'd just walk into the shop.

01:39:09.040 Mom and dad would be sprawled out on the carpet rolls.

01:39:11.180 Are you open?

01:39:11.900 Oh yeah.

01:39:12.240 Can we help you?

01:39:13.040 There was not even a blink.

01:39:14.960 And we sold only seconds and irregulars.

01:39:17.100 I mean, that's, you only shopped there if you were desperate or super rich.

01:39:20.220 And you know, it was just, it was my dad, every morning had a pep talk in his office.

01:39:25.820 I'm going to hire nothing but a-holes.

01:39:27.460 I'm going to take an ad under A.

01:39:28.920 A-hole.

01:39:29.380 That was our, that was our morning pitch.

01:39:31.840 It was.

01:39:33.340 What, um, uh, what brought you to California?

01:39:36.520 My dad started, uh, he managed carpet stores when I was little and they moved him every year.

01:39:41.360 And finally, when I was 19, uh, he opened up our first shop in Oceanside.

01:39:45.420 And, uh, and that's why, that's where we stayed.

01:39:48.440 And how long have you lived in California then?

01:39:50.000 I've lived in Oceanside for 40 years.

01:39:52.220 40 years.

01:39:53.000 Yeah.

01:39:53.900 California, I grew up on the West Coast.

01:39:55.280 I grew up in Seattle.

01:39:56.060 Yeah.

01:39:56.760 And California 40 years ago is not California today.

01:40:00.440 It's not.

01:40:01.860 It is not.

01:40:02.420 I swear, my little enclave of Oceanside is protected by Camp Pendleton Marine Corps base,

01:40:06.460 which I love because, you know, at any given day, there's 30,000 gorgeous Marines walking around.

01:40:10.560 I mean, I think because we have the base there, our town stays a similar, like,

01:40:15.420 it doesn't gentrify to the level of the other beach towns around us.

01:40:18.920 So I'm just so grateful to be in Oceanside.

01:40:21.920 It's a little, like, when I go to LA to work and stuff, it's like,

01:40:24.280 Yeah.

01:40:26.180 But, I mean, um, for where we are, it's like a secret little spot.

01:40:29.600 I mean, it's going to change.

01:40:30.700 I think it is with, with San Diego as well.

01:40:33.200 I mean, it just, Camp Pendleton changes the, you know, the seals and the, yeah,

01:40:38.640 it just stops the insanity a little bit.

01:40:40.860 Yeah, I'm so lucky.

01:40:42.360 And my son-in-law's a retired gunny, so I get to be at the beach at Camp Pendleton on Christmas Day.

01:40:47.120 We always spend Christmas at the beach at Camp Pendleton.

01:40:49.600 Like, I mean, I just, and the Marine Corps car washes.

01:40:52.800 Ladies, if you visit San Diego, don't go to the zoo.

01:40:54.920 Go to the front gate of Camp Pendleton.

01:40:56.800 You sit in your car.

01:40:58.000 Twelve Marines wearing little green shorts wash your car.

01:41:00.780 It's unbelievable.

01:41:03.620 And that is, uh, that's what you might do for...

01:41:06.280 Every Sunday, every Saturday, all summer long.

01:41:08.620 All summer long.

01:41:09.060 That's where you will find me.

01:41:10.100 Right.

01:41:10.660 Mm-hmm.

01:41:10.960 Because I'm a giver.

01:41:13.900 Semper Fi.

01:41:16.600 You're tremendous.

01:41:17.840 You're just tremendous.

01:41:18.840 Thank you so much for having me on.

01:41:20.000 Big honor.

01:41:20.620 Uh, it is, uh, it's, it's great to see somebody, uh, who is pursuing what they love because they

01:41:28.000 love it and for no other reason and then hitting it.

01:41:32.660 And I'm, I'm just thrilled.

01:41:33.700 No other reason.

01:41:34.260 I mean, you have the trailer on the hill.

01:41:35.980 I mean...

01:41:36.240 Well, let's face it.

01:41:37.160 Yeah.

01:41:37.480 I mean, there's, there is that.

01:41:38.320 I had a double wide dream and comedy made it come true.

01:41:42.060 Where can people go to find out where to find you if they miss the dates?

01:41:44.580 Uh, well, the, on my Vicki Barbalak Facebook page is always my calendar and I am, I have

01:41:50.000 a website.

01:41:50.660 It's called VickiBarbalakComedy.com.

01:41:52.760 It's, uh, on the brink of teeter, but if, hopefully it'll work if you guys look into it,

01:41:57.960 VickiBarbalakComedy.com or my Facebook page, or you can all call me 760-5233.

01:42:03.560 Right, right, right, right.

01:42:04.740 The, uh, you also started a, uh, a new podcast.

01:42:08.420 Yeah, Vicki Barbalak, Trailer Nasty.

01:42:09.940 And also, I am, uh, uh, ordained, uh, wedding minister.

01:42:13.400 I have a business called Wedding Chapel to Go.

01:42:15.480 Are you a minister of the, uh, universal...

01:42:17.800 Of the leopard cloth.

01:42:18.480 Of the leopard cloth.

01:42:19.440 Oh, okay.

01:42:19.620 And I offer a $29.95 half-hour honeymoon as part of my service.

01:42:23.640 I have a wedding van.

01:42:24.760 It pops out and we just do pop-up weddings.

01:42:27.040 That sounds awesome.

01:42:27.700 And so the 20-minute, did you say honeymoon?

01:42:30.540 30-minute half-hour honeymoon, $29.95.

01:42:32.800 I have, I've kept that price, uh, stable.

01:42:35.480 Right.

01:42:35.860 Yeah.

01:42:36.180 Right.

01:42:36.480 And that's in, that happens in the back of the van.

01:42:38.800 And it's a, it's a wonderful experience, uh, for the happy couple.

01:42:42.540 And you can renew your vows too.

01:42:44.160 And you, for, I do a lot of anniversary renewals.

01:42:46.360 I do, you know, anniversary parties.

01:42:47.520 And we could also offer the $29.95, you know, for that.

01:42:50.740 You know, maybe we should have, maybe we should, maybe we should have, like, we do next year,

01:42:55.020 if maybe we could get you back.

01:42:56.060 Yeah.

01:42:56.220 We, we should do like a bowling, I mean, it's not a van.

01:43:00.160 Right.

01:43:00.480 But we could, you know, it's a national show.

01:43:02.620 Yeah.

01:43:02.720 So maybe we could do like a bowling alley wedding and you could officiate.

01:43:06.000 Absolutely.

01:43:06.600 I would love to do that.

01:43:08.000 I have my own bowling shoes and bag.

01:43:09.860 So you're ready.

01:43:10.640 I'm ready to go.

01:43:11.160 So we should, let's do that next year.

01:43:12.180 You come back.

01:43:12.980 Okay.

01:43:13.480 You, you can, and we'll find the perfect couple for the bowling alley wedding.

01:43:17.520 I love it.

01:43:18.320 Somebody who's going to want to get married next year in a bowling alley on this show.

01:43:21.780 Keep us in mind.

01:43:22.620 Yeah.

01:43:23.600 Vicki, thank you so much.

01:43:24.600 Thank you so much, Glenn.

01:43:25.420 You can find her at VickiBarbalock.com.

01:43:28.400 Vicki Barbalock.

01:43:29.620 Find her at Facebook.

01:43:31.180 And if she's coming near you, make sure you see her.

01:43:33.800 She is great.

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