The Best Way to Respond to New COVID Mandates | Guest: Neil Howe | 8⧸28⧸23
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2 hours and 4 minutes
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Summary
Glenn Beck talks about the Florida shooting, global warming, and why Nazis should be allowed to have guns. Glenn also talks about why he doesn't like the idea of black people having the same color skin as other people in America.
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I mean, there was a moment there where it hit like 98,
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It was 101 at the football game at 9 p.m. on Friday.
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Global warming is the most evil thing in the world,
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If you look at the shooting in Florida, it's the same crap.
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Well, let's make sure that Nazis don't have guns.
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Unfortunately, the progressives are trying to make sure that no one has guns except for them.
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Because those Nazis don't typically listen to rules all that well.
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When they're made by people who they don't like.
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The thing that fascinated me a little bit about that story was, number one, how it's a national story.
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Like, look, it sounds like a really terrible incident, obviously.
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Like, you know, anytime there's a shooting of three people, it's a terrible incident.
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But, like, how many times does that happen in Chicago or every other major city?
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And I guess it's not a story when the people have the same color skin doing it to each other.
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If it's two white people doing it to each other or two black people doing it to each other, we don't report on it at all.
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But because this manifesto, which we suddenly have almost immediately, which I thought was not the pattern anymore.
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I thought we had to wait months and months and months for politically-based ideological rants about murders.
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All of a sudden, we have it right away in this case.
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And because it's apparently a completely insane person with a dash of racism or maybe a heaping spoonful of racism.
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But, like, seemingly other indications, it was beyond racism, like real mental health difficulties and insanity going on.
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And it's, to me, kind of amazing how quickly we've had this total turnaround.
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You go back and look at polls from 15, 20 years ago, and you see America was pretty close to having racism solved.
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It's the people who were living at the time, including African-Americans, saying, like, yeah, things are pretty good race-wise.
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And it's completely fallen apart ever since we've decided to try this solution of, hey, everybody, what if we all say that all white people are racist no matter what they do or say?
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And we'll also say all black people are victims and have no chance of succeeding on their own no matter what they do or say?
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And let's give that a shot for a couple decades and see how it turns out.
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Not, you know, we're just a few years from two decades of doing it.
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2028 will be the 20th anniversary of, you know, racial and social justice.
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And it's not turning out to be quite like that.
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And it's funny because you remember, we were, of course, covering that back in the day.
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And I remember walking, we did this coverage and we were in New York City at the time.
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And I remember walking to the hotel I was staying at from the studios.
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And, you know, people were in, again, remember this is New York City.
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People were in the streets celebrating, you know, in the streets trying to, not just because he was a Democrat, but I think larger because he was black.
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And even though I thought he was going to be a terrible president and you thought he was going to be a terrible president and everyone in this audience thought he was going to be a terrible president, there was still that piece of like, well, you know, there's a real cost to this because he's going to be a bad president.
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But at least it's good that, like, we can all put this race thing finally behind us.
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But the total opposite way in every single possible.
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I got here despite all the racists in the country.
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They were out in force voting for Barack Obama, I guess.
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I mean, how else did he win if we're all Klan's members?
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It's been, you know, every piece of medicine they've tried to apply to this problem has done the exact reverse.
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You know, the more the progressive gets involved in education, the worse the education gets.
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Well, you know, we have the more they try to lower gas prices through regulation, the higher the gas price goes.
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I mean, that one's well known, but that's really about it.
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You also have, you know, this promise of equality and, you know, blacks had and minorities had the best they've ever had in success and prosperity under Donald Trump.
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But now that they've promised that they were going to equalize things and make things better for the working class blacks and Hispanics, they're no longer enjoying that prosperity.
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It's almost like everything they touch turns to garbage.
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It's, you know, it, you know, hey, our, our inflation reduction act does the exact opposite.
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But yeah, I mean, you have a few thousand examples and that's about it.
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You know, I only have everything they do and say how much we're going to reimagine the police and make our community safer.
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I've had it for quite some time, but you know, maybe I was just quick on the uptake on this particular thousand issues.
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But you know, when, when, when have you had enough?
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And you realize, I think when you look at our major cities around the country, there's never a time they get it.
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You could put the same people in office for a hundred years.
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And they have, and they failed for a hundred years, and they will still elect the same people.
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Honestly, like, wouldn't you just try something else out of default?
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Look, the whole low taxes freedom thing sounds terrible to me, but maybe we should give it a whirl.
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And it kills me the, the way New York is now reacting to the migrant problem.
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It's, and they've got like, what, 35,000, uh, and it's just crippling them.
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I mean, what are you, what are you talking about?
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Cause New York, you're only, you don't even have to fly.
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The only difference between you and Los Angeles now, palm trees.
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No, you've got enough snotty celebrities there.
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It's fascinating to watch this because of course, obviously places like Texas and other border
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states have been complaining about this forever and saying like, we've got a real problem here.
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And, you know, but I, it's amazing to see like a few buses, like this is what set you over the edge.
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Your society was so close to the edge that a few buses of people that you said you wanted,
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by the way, we should point out you were welcoming your sanctuary city.
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A few buses show up from the South and all of a sudden you can't run your society anymore.
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You know, I will say like, you know, Texas for all, it gets all, you know,
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all this beating about how these evil right wingers and how they hate immigrants.
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You know, like, look, our day-to-day life in Texas is, it's filled with interactions with illegal immigrants.
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They live in our society, all around us, and like, largely we just get along with them.
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Now, we all realize there are societal issues with our law and how that works,
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but like, generally speaking, like, we wish the law was applied better,
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but like, if they're here, like, you have interactions with them, they're like any other person.
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We treat them like every other person, even though we don't think the law is being applied appropriately.
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New York's like, they see four people with, like, Hispanic last names,
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and they just decide they're going to abandon the state.
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In Texas, generally speaking, you know, they'll go to work.
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You know, in Texas, like, you do get, look, there are definitely people living off the dole.
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Like, the criticisms we have of this system are real.
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A lot of people come here, even though they're not supposed to be here,
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and they shouldn't be here because they're breaking the law being here.
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But they go every day, and they work, and they interact with people,
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And while there are major problems, somehow Texas has been able to do it
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without, by the way, a state income tax, I should point out.
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They are somehow able to keep, we're keeping this society running with, I don't know,
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10 times, 20 times as many illegal immigrants, and no state income tax.
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And yet, this place runs 100 times better than New York.
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Could it go back to the original part of this conversation?
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I mean, because, look, our schools are safer now.
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All of our schools, they're all saying, you know, we want children to feel safe,
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And there's a Teacher of the Month, Casey McGrath.
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She won Teacher of the Month in the same month as this was going on?
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Well, she was unlawfully and knowingly engaging in sexual penetration with a person of at least 13 years.
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Was it one of those things where, like, she had been doing this the month before and stopped,
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I had another teacher in New York City who posted on social media about teaching children consent.
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You know, we got to make sure that we teach our kids about consent.
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Apparently, she taught it really well to a 14-year-old student.
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She taught it to that 14-year-old student over and over and over again for many, many months.
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So, again, I'm going to promise you your kids are going to feel safe.
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Name the thing that they're saying they're trying to stop.
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And show me the policy where it hasn't gotten a thousand times worse.
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By the way, the left and CNN has just come out with a new report speaking of education.
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Since 2021, state lawmakers have introduced nearly 400 bills aimed at giving parents, government officials,
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and concerned citizens the ability to challenge or monitor what schools teach about race and gender issues,
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While many of these laws stop short of directly censoring what is taught in classrooms,
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the analysis now has found that many of the proposed bills have had a, quote,
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Educators told the advocacy group that they, the advocacy group,
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that they now fear that they could be held criminally liable and lose their jobs for teaching prohibited concepts.
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and you're afraid you might be arrested if you're teaching them about child mutilation.
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Well, we just heard about a couple of teachers who were teaching their kids something very, very important.
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In a very personal, you know, one-on-one sort of way.
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As you point out, over and over and over and over again.
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You can get arrested for that sort of behavior.
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As a teacher, you'd have to worry about that because, like, I don't worry about that.
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When I say something, I teach something that is wholly inappropriate, I don't worry about my job.
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And I think most people are like that in their jobs.
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They could have the, you know, the boss come in to them and say, don't do this.
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It's funny because it's the left that really wanted to have centralized control of education.
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And so, they implement, you know, they work forever to expand the role of government in
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And then, someone else gets elected that they don't like who now has that power.
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That's why you don't want to have a government that is so big that it tells you what you
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I think what we want to do is just always get our guy elected for 100% of the time forever.
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Okay, so you have a government that could not tell the local schools what to do, but
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you had a local government that was strong enough to arrest people for having sex with
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You're saying in some sort of futuristic world.
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No, I'm thinking like right now, you know, would be good.
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By the way, the Biden administration is going to reduce your energy bills.
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Ceiling fans now are the latest target of the EPA.
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I thought we were supposed to turn off our air conditioning and turn on our ceiling fans.
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No, no, it's well, no, you're still part of it.
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And don't turn on your ceiling fan until you get a new one that hasn't been invented yet.
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The energy department is requiring now the ceiling fan industry to come up with one that's much more energy efficient.
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I am talking about a household savings of thirty nine dollars over the age.
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Well, all households combined you're talking about, right?
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It'll save thirty nine dollars over the life of the ceiling fan.
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I feel like the life of a ceiling fan is infinite.
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I had one that started spinning out of control at one point.
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I thought it might like decapitate one of my kids.
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Yeah, like the life of a ceiling fan is longer than the life of a human.
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I think why would we be thirty nine dollars over the life of the life of the ceiling fan?
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That's probably 20 years longer than you live in that house.
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The money the government is pouring in for the development of these new ceiling fans,
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And with this inflation, thirty nine dollars over a lifetime.
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There's a couple of things going on to we should report.
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First of all, the the power company, the Hawaiian electric company has removed all of the, you know, all of the the transformers and the poles and the wires and what some would call it evidence.
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Yes, but they've removed all of that from the scene.
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And they said that's all they only did that because, well, they don't own any of the land.
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You know, they're just beyond the power substation.
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So they wanted to clean it up, make sure that everything was good.
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This is a, you know, public private partnership with the government, too.
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And I mean, I don't know why they're saying it that way.
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I hate to be I don't mean to be callous on this, but it's not that big of an island.
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It's not like it's not like somebody, you know, is wandering off and is lost or whatever.
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It's not possible because, yeah, why would you be missing or somebody who's like just
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I mean, you know, this is a horrifying, horrible.
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I mean, this might be why they're holding it back.
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Like, they don't want people to to to really, you know, come to the point where they recognize
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Decker, he is Mercury One's executive director.
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He was an executive producer for me and a producer for a very long time.
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So is there any explanation why they are still holding these names?
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Glenn, I have, you know, we've been here almost five days.
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And that is one thing that every single local is confused on that we've spoken with.
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I've spoken with a lot of people and they said, we don't trust anyone.
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We do not trust what's coming out of the government.
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We don't trust what's coming out of not just the state of Hawaii, but the county and then
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I mean, that is terrifying that they don't even believe the county.
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Well, it's just one word, though, about the locals is that's come up while we're talking
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with some of these stories are just, again, horrific.
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But these are some of the most resilient people I've ever met in my life.
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And they said, hey, you know, we're getting a shipment from one of the other islands of
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We were doing, you know, getting fishing supplies.
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And they said, most of these kids lost their surfboards in the mental health crisis that
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is here right now from seeing people burning in cars and seeing their family members in
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This is the only thing that's going to bring this community back to what we we know and
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And so this guy is going to take kids surfboards that were donated from other islands.
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And then the fishing supplies is just going to go to these local fishermen who lost literally
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These are the guys who go out and buy the fish for all the tourists and speaking with these
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And for me, yesterday we were at church, Harvest Church, which is one of our partners.
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Um, and I was standing next to one of the worship leader's wives who lost everything in this
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She's just bawling and crying out and she, they're singing this, one of these songs and
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it's about how God is still in control in this disaster.
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I think this is the first time that I finally broke down, um, from seeing the damage and seeing
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And the one thing that really hits close to home is these, these are Americans.
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This isn't just, uh, another story in the news cycle that's going to disappear.
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And the fact that the government has, has just decided to one block everyone from going back
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Um, there's a few people that have been able to go back in and look at their homes, but
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too, there, I mean, we've gone past, we have to drive through part of Lahaina every single
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If we want to get to another part of the Island and you see the destruction and you smell
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And you know, those black walls that are going up on the road that everyone says the government's
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And it's what we've learned, what we've seen across the whole Island are those black walls
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are so that ashes in the teeth of whatever is left of any of those human remains don't
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I know, you know, people ran into the water and how many people, I mean, how far in the
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I hear some of them were in the water for eight or 10 hours, just treading water.
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Glenn, we, we were, uh, with a couple of people yesterday and there was a story of this
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teacher and the fires coming down towards the ocean and she had to run, jump in the ocean
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She doesn't know how many, but a big group of people and they all jump in, they treaded
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water and swam for up to eight hours and everyone around her drowned.
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She's, she's trying to rescue these people, these kids, these dads, these moms, these
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grandparents, but she, she could, she couldn't do anything.
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And so she just, she just tried to tread and swim, but everyone around her drowned.
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They ended up finding her eight hours later, alive.
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How, how did there, where the people, where were the, where were the coast guard boats or
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Every single local that I have spoken to are asking the same question.
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They're asking, you know, we've got installments all around this area on all these islands.
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And, you know, we've heard stories of some Navy SEALs coming in and, you know, just helping
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and then some Chinooks that came in and helped try to rescue.
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And the coast guard came in later on to try to help.
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But we, we did confirm with a couple locals who ran out that the police were so scared
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of the power lines that fell through the wind, that people were not allowed to get out of
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And during these fires, because the police were blocking off because they didn't want them
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to run into the power lines that were still alive.
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Which, which is the job of the power company that always happens.
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A power line goes down and you shut everything off.
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They, they, they don't, they don't want to, they haven't come out yet and said, they don't
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I mean, uh, they don't want to say, uh, the other day we were eating at a local restaurant
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Uh, this was the one that kind of, you probably might've heard about, but there was a, there's
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a pretty large grass fire that was going towards Lahaina.
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Um, and then what's interesting though, we're at this restaurant and there's a FEMA person,
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Um, and then there's a former Doctors Without Borders, um, person.
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And she was here volunteering and the power goes out and all of our phones, emergency
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Everybody's phone goes off and it says evacuate one.
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Most of the people that are in that room didn't know quite what to do, which was interesting.
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I mean, and then the guy who lost his home, he's just, there's, there's tears because what
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There's no hospital on this side of the Island.
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And I mean, you have to go 45 minutes if something were to happen.
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And we've heard stories of, of some of the burn victims who ended up getting in those,
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the two ambulances on this side of the Island and died on the, in the ambulance, trying to
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So, I mean, with, with what we're doing with Mercury one is incredible because within the
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And they showed up with star links to provide internet for the community because for three
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or four days, most of these people had no way of communicating to the outside world that
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we're still alive, to their families and friends in the mainland.
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And one, why was it a nonprofit that came in and provide internet and the government did
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They ended up providing internet for the government and the community because they, they told us
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We have no red tape, but the government has the red tape.
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And, you know, we were one of the first ones to sparrow in his purse to send in a cargo plane
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And right now this Island doesn't need the food and water.
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There's already been about five or six suicides.
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And that's just, when you lose everything, including your family, and the, but the mental
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health side is something that we're going to be focused on.
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And we spoke with a local restaurant the other day and he just, and again, Glenn, you know,
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we brought cameras to help tell the story of what Mercury One and our partners have been
00:35:38.160
Cause we're not here just for a small amount of time.
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We don't just, I mean, when you started this, you said, we're going to the first ones in
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And so we, you know, I was talking with the restaurant and he just breaks down and, you
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know, we didn't have the cameras with us and he said, you know, all these people have
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They've just been coming in and just want to take our story.
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Businessmen come in with wads of cash, drop it on our table and say, I'll buy you out.
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And I will, I will, you know, just buy you out.
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This guy has put up 20 of his staff in his restaurant.
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He's been providing hundreds of meals a day to people.
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I tried to offer some help and he said, I don't want help.
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He goes, what I want is for you to help other people.
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And when we say a hundred percent goes with, and that's usually what I would tell these
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We, we, we want to give a hundred percent to this island.
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That's the most powerful thing that, and they're shocked at it.
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But I think, you know, anyways, I'm, I know I'm telling so many different stories, but
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this is, this is one for me personally, it's changed my life on what community looks like.
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These people are exactly what community they're the definition of Ohana, which means family.
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Mercury one executive director, uh, coming home today.
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Um, but as he said, our, our people and all of the charities we support will be the last
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Uh, so please, if you'd like to help us, uh, you, all you have to do is go to mercury one
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He is the author of The Fourth Turning Is Here.
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He and his partner offered or wrote, I think, seven best-selling books, Generations, The 13th Generation, The Fourth Turning, Millennials Rising.
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This is the book that came out in the 90s where they were talking about how America is about to go into crisis.
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And it could mean the end of, you know, America as we know it.
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And they based this on history, on this cycle of history.
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And also, I think, give us a very hopeful message because of what the next generation is capable of.
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And a lot of people don't have faith in the next generation.
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So he's going to be joining us here in just a minute.
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But his latest book is called The Fourth Turning Is Here.
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No matter what you call it, we all feel something big is right around the corner.
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And I don't necessarily want to know what it is.
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But he will tell us how we get through it historically.
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But this was discovered by naturopathic Dr. Dennis Black.
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What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.
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I have wanted to talk to Neil Howe for I don't know how many years.
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He has a new book out called The Fourth Turning is Here.
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The Fourth Turning is something that he wrote back in 97, I think, with William Strauss.
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The millennial generation is from Howe and Strauss.
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Mr. Strauss has since passed on, but we have his partner who has taken this now to the next level.
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It is a moment of crisis, but I think you're going to like the positivity and the possibilities that come out of that.
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Historically speaking, Neil Howe joins us in 60 seconds.
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Your book, The Fourth Turning, made a huge impact in my life.
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And before we get to The Fourth Turning is here, can you explain the turnings, if you will?
00:47:33.300
Yeah, this was something that Bill and I developed.
00:47:36.980
Actually, we did an earlier book back in 1991 called Generations, and it was really looking
00:47:42.640
at generations as the source of historical change, meaning, you know, generations are
00:47:52.140
You know, each generation is uniquely shaped by its childhood experiences and as it comes
00:47:59.860
And then about 30 or 40 years later, as parents and leaders, they in turn shaped history,
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And we, Generations is the first collective biography of America that anyone had ever written.
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That is to say, retelling the entire story of America as a sequence of generational biographies,
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In other words, following the same group of people throughout their entire life and then starting
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And what we found was that generations are very different.
00:48:32.340
It's not just, you know, Xers and Boomers or Millennials and Xers, we're accustomed to
00:48:37.940
today, or Boomers and their World War II parents, right?
00:48:42.140
These differences have been with us since the founding, since the 17th century.
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And what occurred to us as we were writing that book is that this is the source of some of
00:48:55.160
the otherwise unexplainable regularities in the rhythms of American history.
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I mean, for example, the fact that we have these enormous periods of civic creative destruction
00:49:09.840
when the entire country goes through an upheaval of, you know, politics and economics, we really
00:49:20.560
And this happens about the length of a long human life apart, right?
00:49:24.160
We had this period of revolution and rebellion in the late 17th century, kind of coinciding
00:49:34.040
And then about a lifetime later, we had the American Revolution.
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Then we had World War II and the Great Depression.
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This is like the ticking of a clock, you know, or a clock.
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And roughly halfway in between these upheavals in the outer world, when we redefine politics
00:49:56.440
and economics and infrastructure and all that, we have these upheavals in the inner world,
00:50:01.600
which very conveniently in American history, we number.
00:50:05.960
So we called them the First Great Awakening, the Second Great Awakening, and so forth.
00:50:09.720
And this struck us as having very interesting generational roots, generational continuity,
00:50:17.760
Because it's generations that come of age during an awakening that later in old age usually
00:50:26.960
Generations which, you know, come of age during a crisis usually preside over the next awakening
00:50:34.120
And this has been true since, you know, Ralph Waldo Emerson and Walt Whitman, a generation
00:50:44.540
of prophets and religion founders and, you know, commune leaders who attended the Civil War.
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And it was true for the generation born just after the Civil War, who took us really were
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the wise old men and women of the World War II era.
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If you look at the spring season, this is the period in which, you know, institutions
00:51:24.680
And this is what we, recently in American history, we all recall the American high.
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This was the presidencies of Truman and Eisenhower and John Kennedy.
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Society had a very definite idea of where it wanted to go collectively.
00:51:42.400
But as individuals, we were very modest, right, about what we wanted.
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It was, as William White wrote in The Organization Man, people had a strong social ethic.
00:51:54.120
I mean, that's what you're supposed to do, right?
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Each person had a job to do based on gender, based on, you know, your aptitude for a different
00:52:07.920
We were modest individually, but the nation did incredible things collectively.
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I mean, everything from interstate highways to launching the Apollo moon launch program,
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you know, and we managed to balance the budget every year, right, while feeding the world
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and presiding over that period of growing global order and prosperity.
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The second turning was the awakening, and that was the period that many listeners probably
00:52:47.940
And this was a period when all of America wanted to throw off all that social obligation,
00:52:55.040
And this started really with, started more on the left.
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There's no question about that, mainly in the culture, throwing off, you know, patriarchy
00:53:09.500
And it ended, I think, a little bit more on the conservative side, you know, throwing out
00:53:16.140
And so, but the one theme was we wanted to be a less ordered society.
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We wanted individuals to kind of go more their own way.
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And the biggest nightmare for boomers at that time was the oppressive middle class, right?
00:53:33.420
Pleasant Valley Sunday, that was their worst nightmare.
00:53:36.520
And they talk to millennials today, it's like middle class.
00:53:46.820
And then you have the third turning, which is, we call an unraveling, and that's in many
00:54:00.620
And when we think of paradigmatic decades of an unraveling, we think of the roaring 90s
00:54:10.700
We also think of the roaring 20s, the 1850s and 1760s.
00:54:15.700
These were all decades of cynicism and bad manners, acting out in the culture, disrespecting
00:54:24.060
And in general, my kind of the key book of the 1990s to me was Francis Fukuyama.
00:54:36.620
We were all, yeah, the government was going to fade away.
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We would all be individuals living wherever in the world we wanted.
00:54:44.380
I guess, you know, on our laptops and a Starbucks somewhere, just contracting with each other
00:54:55.500
That was the image, right, of a world of individuals that wouldn't need anything.
00:55:07.120
But history shows us that third turnings inevitably lead to fourth turnings.
00:55:14.220
And that's when instead of wanting to rebel against order, society wants more order.
00:55:24.700
And the cutting edge generation for the awakening was boomers, but the cutting edge generation
00:55:44.540
I mean, they're all in these huge, you know, everything ETFs, right?
00:55:52.540
And the entire world is being buffeted by this.
00:55:57.500
And we see this in these new populist movements around the world, often overtly authoritarian
00:56:08.540
And we've seen this before, and we're seeing it again.
00:56:12.560
And so the purpose of, as you know, the purpose of my writing the book is to take this up to
00:56:22.040
And to hypothesize a little bit on where we're going and what the schedule is and, you know,
00:56:32.180
So, you know, there's three theories out there that I have kind of melded into one.
00:56:39.740
Yours, and I don't know if you've read Michael Drew's work, Pendulum, How Past Generations
00:56:48.200
He describes it as a pendulum and describes much of what you guys worked out, but he shows
00:56:59.660
And then the third theory that I've always found interesting is the Kondrachia wave, which
00:57:07.180
And it's all spring, summer, the arrogance of summer.
00:57:16.660
You know, hey, let's deny this, deny this, deny this.
00:57:20.100
Oh, it looks like everything is dying to winter.
00:57:25.960
And we are, if I understand, we are now heading into winter, correct?
00:57:40.260
I mean, we started, I think we entered this era.
00:57:49.520
And we entered it with 2008, the global financial crisis, when we saw so many things begin to
00:57:57.420
We saw democracies decline at the expense of authoritarian governments.
00:58:01.720
We saw global trade begin to decline as a share of global product.
00:58:06.580
I mean, in many ways, it was analogous to 1929, right?
00:58:10.520
Which is also a great global, you know, financial collapse, right?
00:58:14.680
And we've seen that, but we still have a ways to go.
00:58:19.460
And, you know, when Kondrakiev, who was Stalin's economic advisor, when he was asked, what's
00:58:26.080
better, capitalism, communism, he said, it's seasonal.
00:58:30.740
And you look at things, and capitalism is better because communism, when it starts to go cold
00:58:47.280
Um, and we're doing that since 2008, we're propping everything up so it doesn't go into
00:58:55.100
a hard freeze, but we've bastardized everything.
00:58:57.980
And I'm, I'm wondering, do they always have to end in like war?
00:59:05.520
Well, typically they have, um, you know, every, every total war in American history has occurred
00:59:12.720
during a fourth turning and every fourth turning is at a total war.
00:59:19.480
I, I would say it, it, you know, I, I don't like to be a pessimist.
00:59:23.560
So I like to say what it, what it precisely requires is not so much war.
00:59:28.620
What it requires is, um, collective mobilization, uh, on a mass scale.
00:59:35.860
And it's really hard to see how you do that other than sort of organized conflict.
00:59:40.580
But what happens typically is that as society begins to re-seek order, it begins to collectivize
00:59:48.500
Today we see in America, blue zone, red zone, right?
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Half of America thought that the 1930s was the red decade.
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The other half thought it was the fascist decade.
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I mean, these are the, said that, you know, Franklin, Stalin, Roosevelt, right?
01:00:09.420
Well, and, and, and we have the new movie Oppenheimer out.
01:00:13.220
So we, we, we now realize how many of the, the greatest generation as, as young men and
01:00:19.160
women in the early twenties, we're, we're communists.
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So let me take a one minute break here and then let's come back to, um, uh, where we
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uh, has had these turnings along with all of the West, uh, for instance, American revolution,
01:02:31.300
the French revolution, uh, world war, uh, world war two was the same, uh, you know, same thing
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that was happening over at Germany was happening over here.
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Uh, we had different results, but, um, there's the we generation and the me generation, and
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Do they not in the we generation when we're all, we're all collective.
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We generations are, are, are, are made not born, right?
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Um, so how do we, how do we avoid what, uh, how do we avoid going in when we have a collective
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You know, this has been a struggle since the beginning, uh, every time because America
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is by, by its culture and by its heritage, a individualist kind of, uh, right.
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You know, uh, society and war has been difficult for that reason.
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Um, you know, uh, George Washington, uh, implored, uh, again and again, you know, that, that,
01:03:47.240
that Congress should then, that authorize them for this, for this great continental army.
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And of course there were a lot of foot draggers and people who didn't want to do that.
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Similarly in the civil war, similarly in, in, in world war two, uh, it was, Roosevelt was
01:04:04.280
very slow to be able to actually enact conscription.
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Uh, and, and we came very late to the table, uh, to the, the, the fight against fascism.
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Um, and, and so it, it is a problem and, and forth turnings by their very nature of, of
01:04:23.540
collective mobilization put democracy to the test.
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So with all of the things that are happening now, I've learned so much from you.
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I, I think on what the role of people, my age is supposed to be.
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Um, and I'd like you to take us through, um, what's, what's coming and what each of us in
01:04:53.160
our generations need to do and, and show us the hero generation that is coming because
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Author Neil Howe and historian Neil Howe, joining us again.
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He is the author of The Fourth Turning Is Here, a recent bestseller.
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It is out and available, and I highly recommend you read it.
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Neil, tell us what's coming, and how best to prepare, and what our roles are.
01:07:15.980
You know, we've been in this period where tribal loyalties are deepening.
01:07:21.680
America's relationships in certain other parts of the world are fraying.
01:07:25.020
Fears of American breakup, and even the possibility of civil conflict is rising.
01:07:32.500
And history suggests that that should climax sometime in the next decade.
01:07:38.280
We think this period will be over, and a new first turning will begin by the early 2030s.
01:07:46.300
And I think what you asked was the different roles generations will play, which is very interesting.
01:07:53.380
I mean, typically, what we call the prophet archetype, which is the aging, you know, generation that comes of age during the awakening, is typically, as it was for Abraham Lincoln's generation, is a generation which is very dominant in the culture all their lives, as boomers have been.
01:08:13.440
You know, I can't think of a millennial who doesn't know 60s and 70s music really, really well.
01:08:19.840
And for many of us boomers, we didn't have a clue about our parents' music.
01:08:28.360
And that sense of cultural dominance that boomers have always had, younger generations at this time of crisis will look to boomers for that cultural continuity.
01:08:43.480
And we often call this generation the producer of the great champions in history, you know, those leaders that galvanize all generations to behave for the common good.
01:08:55.100
The generation beneath that, the Generation X, you know, those who came of age in the 80s and 90s, this would be the generation that's going to be squarely in midlife, right?
01:09:08.220
They're going to be the generals, the admirals, they'll be the on, they'll be on the scene leaders actually practically determining how the, how, whether the fourth turning ends well or ends badly.
01:09:24.200
They will be as decisive in determining how it ends as Omar Bradley and George Patton and, you know, Ridgway and Dwight Eisenhower were in determining how, you know, that crisis ended, right?
01:09:37.680
So they will be, they will have the critical role.
01:09:40.940
And it's interesting because so many Gen Xers coming of age thought that they were, you know, had no purpose.
01:09:46.720
They were kind of out there at the end of history and they were a useless generation.
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Can I tell you, I have felt in the shadow of the hippies my whole life, like the hippies just have screwed everything up and were constantly sweeping up after their mess.
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And it now seems like, you know, you're talking about the, the profit generation, the, the, the profit generation has always let go.
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At some point, these guys, at least in the ruling class are just hanging on until way beyond their ability to do anything.
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And of course they're getting older and older, aren't they?
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And, and that's when the energies are released.
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And suddenly the Xers, which are a generation of survivalists, pragmatists, uh, don't trust anything, but they know how to build stuff.
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And interestingly enough, from their individualism, which they fostered in their, you know, a home alone childhood, they become leaders of a new community.
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And that becomes very interesting trans transition for them.
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Because they become those who kind of lead America into a new era of, of close community of, of national community.
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And then of course the millennial generation, the, the sheltered special kids, right.
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I mean, the GI generation was the first boy Scouts and girl Scouts, and they were, you know, sheltered by the progressive movement.
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And, and, uh, as, as kids, and they, they came of age to fight world war II.
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Millennials will have the same transition and they will transition into a generation that will be collectively the hero generation.
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And of course that will be their right of passage.
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It will turn a generation of, of, uh, you know, Oppenheimers, right.
01:11:55.500
We were talking earlier about that movie, but a generation, which was filled with, uh, uh, radicals and didn't know which direction to go back in the 1930s to a generation, the majority of whom became the cornerstone of the American high, obviously in the late forties and fifties.
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Um, and they were the founders of everything from suburbia to, uh, to, to the, uh, uh, to, to the, you know, kind of the, the black and white Ed Sullivan culture.
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That everyone remembers sort of the stolid establishment that, uh, that boomers later rebelled from.
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And that, that actually takes us into our description late in the book of what the next to first turning will be like, right.
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Very different from what we're experiencing today.
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But as, as if you would look forward from the late thirties, who would have ever imagined the 1950s?
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So are you, so you're optimistic that we, that we may, cause it's, it's, I think.
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You know, people sometimes say fourth turning, it sounds like end of the world and all this.
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And I say, yes, it's a extremely challenging time and it's, and it is the time of struggle and it's a time of trial.
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But the only thing worse than a fourth turning is not having a fourth turn.
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Imagine the trends today continuing to just deepen.
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You know, the sense of rootlessness, the sense of, uh, uh, disempowerment by those who are poor and less educated, the sense of, uh, loss of community in America.
01:13:42.340
But, well, isn't that kind of what happened in, in, uh, communist Russia?
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I mean, it was just a continuation, uh, and never got any, it never got any better.
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Um, you know, I, I, it, it seems to me that the progressive movement is just kind of grabs on to everything and then just holds it as a group.
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And, uh, it just seems to get worse and worse, at least this, this version of, of what's happening.
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Uh, and I'm, I'm concerned that do we have the stuff that hold, that held us together, uh, in World War II or in the war, uh, against slavery?
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I mean, you look at the diary of, of John Adams, you know, back in, uh, in, in the early 1770s.
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And he just said, I, I'm filled with anxiety and dread.
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We don't, how can we possibly win this struggle?
01:14:50.960
And, and that sense of despair, as we go through this, this collective rite of passage is the same that we feel in our personal lives.
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When we go through a new and very challenging period, but when we come out, we are transformed and we're usually transformed from the better.
01:15:16.180
Um, William James once wrote a famous, it was actually a speech he delivered at Sanford University early in the 20th century.
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And he asked the question, you know, he said, yeah, war is great for, you know, bringing us together as a state and it teaches young people to sacrifice for the community.
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And he goes through all of its advantages and he said, could we invent anything else?
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And by the end of the essay, you kind of wonder whether he actually believes it's possible, but he, but he asked his audience at one point, does anyone here believe that America would, would you have wished that the civil war had never happened?
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It's kind of an interesting question back then, because of course, a lot of the people, civil war is still in the audience, right?
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He said, I'm sure that none of you would have wished the civil war had never happened because we could not imagine the sense of progress, the sense of nationalism, the industrialism, you know, everything that's brought us together, made us a dynamic nation.
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It's kind of an interesting statement he made back then in 1906.
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And, and, and yet then he asked the question, does anyone want such a thing to happen again?
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And I'm sure almost none of all of you would say no, right?
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And, but isn't that the same way we feel about our personal life?
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If you ask, would you wish that some traumatic event, I don't care what it is, maybe you, you lost a, maybe a divorce, you lost a spouse, you lost your business.
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I don't care what it is, but you ask people, would they wish that it never have happened?
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And on reflection, they'll probably say, no, I became a better person.
01:17:00.840
And I think it's much the same for us collectively, Glenn.
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And I, I, you know, I love your book, um, because I, I am filled with hope and I am filled with hope for the younger generations.
01:17:24.340
As I'm looking at the German, you know, starting at world war one, what they went through and demoralized.
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And I mean, many of the same seeds are happening.
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Um, how, how do we, what, what gives you the hope or what, what, what is different about us than, than they were?
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I, you know, look, I believe in our national culture and I look at our track record, which historically has been very successful.
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And I would say this, that when you talk about Germany and Japan or, or even Korea coming out of the last fourth turning.
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America played a huge role in setting them on a better course.
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And I think it's interesting, Glenn, that you look back over the last 10 years, you know, in Iraq and Afghanistan and everyone's saying, you can't build nations.
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I mean, well, as I recall in the last fourth turning, America did a pretty darn good job.
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I mean, look at those nations and what they became.
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And it, and it was largely due to our occupation and our guidance.
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I mean, I hate to say it, but, uh, the post-war era would have been very different for all of us, all of our generations, had we not produced a better world in the wake of, of, of, of, you know, the,
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I am, uh, I'm glad to talk to you and I would love to have you in for a podcast because there's so much more to cover.
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We can even talk more about Kondratia because he's an old, uh, he's an old, uh, hero of mine.
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Um, well, let's, uh, if we can, let's schedule something, uh, sooner rather than later.
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Cause I think your voice is, is so important and is, again, as I said at the beginning, it's played a huge role in my understanding and my hanging on to hope, quite honestly.
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Neil Howe, he is the, uh, uh, the author of the fourth turning is here.
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Fourth turning is the one that's probably the most famous that and, uh, uh, generations that he wrote, uh, early on.
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Hey, a couple of program notes, uh, congratulations to Jason Whitlock, uh, for fearless, you know, Jason came on, uh, because he's more than sports, but he also is driven by sports.
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And we wanted to make sure that we had a kind of some sports, uh, you know, I, a lot of people say, Glenn, you're enough.
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You're deep sports authority, knowledge of sports.
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Yeah, but then we brought on this Brett Favory, Favari, whatever.
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And, uh, Warren Sack going to be joining Blaze TV's, uh, Jason Whitlock's Fearless every week.
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It's a little bit of a different pronunciation to, uh, you know, Hall of Fame level players, uh, coming on to, uh, break down the NFL.
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Like, it does not seem like it should have occurred.
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Mr. Favre, he was able to accomplish quite a bit to get in.
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It'd be great to, uh, to listen to their breakdowns though.
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I know you won't know what they're talking about, but it will be fascinating too.
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I mean, I know, I know, obviously I know these two, uh, and, uh, Jason Whitlock, it, it is
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If you're a sports fan, me, not so much, but, uh, I can recognize that'll be good.
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So I invite you to join and, uh, I will try to just, just, just drop in a couple anti-Glenn
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Donald Trump made a haul on Friday and Saturday.
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Uh, just on Friday, he made over $4 million in t-shirt sales of his, of his mugshot, uh,
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and total over the weekend, $7.1 million in sales just at his website of his mugshot.
01:25:08.600
And, uh, African Americans, um, had a lot to say about it.
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What's your honest reaction to Trump's mugshot?
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I think it's really a good thing for the black community.
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And every time a mugshot come out of those said rappers, their album goes crazy.
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Now that Trump is no longer a stranger to the culture, he's a part of it, it's going to backfire.
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You go to, you go to God, you go to jail in Zone 6 Atlanta, you a brother.
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These so-called blacks nowadays, we rockin' with Trump, man.
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Even the youth, they know what time it is, man.
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My first vote ever, ever, I'm, I'm, I'm saying to the man, man.
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As you've seen his caravan ride through the hood in Atlanta and you've seen all the love he got, when I tell you I speak for the hood, I tell you this sincerely.
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And we watch you f*** with the only man that's ever offered black people anything.
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Okay, so I don't know if you saw all of the rappers and everybody else saying this is the Bill Clinton thing.
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Remember, Bill Clinton became the first black American president because he was caught, you know, having sex in the Oval and then lying about it.
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And the man came after him, and that's why they called him the first black president.
01:28:31.240
I mean, I remember hearing that phrase, but I did not know.
01:28:35.060
If that's because he played the saxophone or something.
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African Americans identified with him being persecuted.
01:28:48.060
That's why they called him that, when actually the first black president was Barack Obama.
01:28:57.820
So, it looks like the same thing is happening with the African American community, except there is something more important than just him being persecuted.
01:29:12.680
U.S. Census Bureau estimated, under the Kennedy administration, more than 45% of non-whites were living under the poverty line.
01:29:28.900
Lowest ever recorded percentage of black families living under the threat of hunger, crime, and disease went from 45% in the Kennedy era, all the way down to 16.13% under the Trump administration.
01:29:51.080
He just said, hey, everybody, go out, get a job, and I'm going to cut some regulations for you so it'll be good for business.
01:30:03.780
And poverty went down in the black community to 16.3%.
01:30:13.340
Now, you'd say, well, that started during COVID.
01:30:16.980
The African American poverty rate was at 19.5% because of COVID.
01:30:24.240
Now, the president has worked his magic, and it is 19.5%.
01:30:31.660
So, zero improvement for the African American community, which, I don't know.
01:30:41.800
This is one of the most effective policies of the left.
01:31:15.440
Wait, what if you compare it to the worst of April 2020?
01:31:20.380
Let's release some ads about Bidenomics that compare today to April 2020 and see what happens.
01:31:34.020
I just want you to listen to that because I really thought this was a bit.
01:31:38.600
And I was looking at the president thinking, wow, CGI has gotten so good.
01:31:44.960
And the reason why, not what he was saying, but how he was saying it.
01:31:49.000
You know, because at some point he's like, and I'm very energetic about doing all these great stuff.
01:31:56.980
And to understand it visually, because it's important to understand what it looks like if you were listening on the radio.
01:32:02.420
It is a, it's Biden standing in front of a whiteboard, a traditional whiteboard that you'd have in a business meeting.
01:32:14.400
And then they're putting graphics on the whiteboard in post-production.
01:32:22.720
But my point, before we get to the, to back up what you're saying here, is that this is a produced video.
01:32:30.000
Like, he could have cut all of these lines 30 times, right?
01:32:34.040
And then they could have put it, made it incredibly interesting.
01:32:37.940
This is the best they could get out of this guy.
01:32:38.900
This is not like an off-the-cuff press conference where he's tired coming off a plane.
01:32:51.980
This is supposed to convince you to be excited, vote, and donate to his campaign.
01:33:00.100
I want to share with you my economic vision to grow our economy.
01:33:10.920
And the great part, as that's happening, there's this really awkward slow zoom in on an empty
01:33:17.280
And you just see his left hand in the shot still.
01:33:32.500
They couldn't get anyone here to make this halfway decent.
01:33:37.160
He's gotten here with just being in the basement.
01:33:44.500
Economic vision to grow our economy from the middle out and the bottom up, not top down.
01:33:53.800
That we should put taxes for all of these big corporations and expect it to trickle down
01:33:59.120
And we should shrink public investment in roads, bridges, and waters.
01:34:05.100
And he legitimately looks like he is in a haunted house right now.
01:34:09.300
This is the guy that when you walk in Jeff Dunham's angry old man puppet.
01:34:13.960
He looks like you'd come into like a haunted mansion and he'd be like just standing there
01:34:21.100
in the corner and you wouldn't notice him and you'd turn around and he'd be there and
01:34:24.020
like, you know, he's holding like a platter with like a head on it.
01:34:30.920
Except he's not scary because you don't think he could chase you.
01:34:38.140
You'd have to actually lift the axe up, put it on your neck, and then hope that he fell
01:34:46.620
And it probably still wouldn't kill you, but you'd have a bad scratch on your neck.
01:34:51.360
You would be able to escape with a leisurely stroll.
01:34:59.460
Blew up the deficit, increased inequity, and weakened the infrastructure of America.
01:35:05.060
And it made it harder for folks to get to the middle class.
01:35:25.000
They are going through this period he's complaining about, not his presidency, unfortunately, but
01:35:30.660
the period he's complaining about, the rise of Reaganomics, trickle-down economics, they
01:35:34.960
are leaving the middle class, and they are going to the upper middle class.
01:35:38.940
That is, you can see it over and over and over again.
01:35:41.420
When you break it into the five quintiles, they're coming out of the middle quintile and
01:35:50.140
It's reversing itself when they're implementing their plans.
01:35:54.300
But like people leaving the middle class is good if they're going up.
01:36:01.380
And leaving the lower class and going into the middle.
01:36:04.740
The people who are being replaced are going to be.
01:36:06.920
Well, the 45% that, you know, were below the poverty line, and under Trump, it was 16%.
01:36:19.080
They went into a either lower middle class or middle class group.
01:36:28.340
But if you compare it to April 2020, no one had a job.
01:36:34.240
I mean, it's just, I just, I really don't understand it.
01:36:38.940
By the way, there's a huge mural now in Atlanta of Trump's mugshot.
01:36:47.020
But, I mean, I think this is going to be, I don't know how to take, I mean, it's interesting.
01:36:52.460
I mean, one of the first polls came out since the debate happened.
01:37:02.040
We're going to talk to Donald Trump tomorrow, by the way, about this.
01:37:07.660
But there is, I think, a weird thing going on on the right right now, trying to figure
01:37:14.600
Because it's like, you have to, you want to be defensive of a guy who's being persecuted.
01:37:21.960
And at the same time, people are looking at this and saying, like, well, how does this
01:37:27.740
And I don't want to, you know, I'm worried about going down this road.
01:37:36.700
It's a tough thing to work through for a lot of people.
01:37:39.240
And, you know, the problem is we almost need, we almost need like two presidents for this
01:37:46.320
And, you know, I know we can't have one, but he is, he is so focused on what he's going
01:37:53.280
through because, and rightfully so, he has to be.
01:37:56.260
But also for the rest of America, what's happening to him is just a foretelling of what's going
01:38:03.900
to happen to us if they're allowed to get away with it.
01:38:06.700
You know, look at what Elon Musk, what's happening.
01:38:09.140
DOJ is going after Elon Musk now because, you know, he's refuses to put minorities in
01:38:14.660
But I think a lot of New Yorkers would say if that's where they can keep them, that's
01:38:23.980
Anyway, you know, he is fighting this massive corruption.
01:38:28.920
How the president is going to be able to fight for himself and fight against the DOJ and all
01:38:46.720
It's going to be really, really difficult and it's going to be fascinating to watch it
01:38:52.760
Like I, this could go a thousand different directions.
01:38:56.360
I have no idea really, honestly, at the end of the day, how this is going to look in a
01:39:00.200
No, a hobbit wearing the one ring to rule them all could be the next president.
01:39:14.560
And everybody suddenly would just go, you know what?
01:39:21.640
I'm, I, I, it really is fascinating to see, like, we don't know, you know, I was trying
01:39:25.820
to think about, we were, we were talking about this on the, um, uh, election, uh,
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post show after, excuse me, the debate post show of the other night on blaze TV.
01:39:35.540
And we were, I was like, give me your percentage right now.
01:39:37.820
If you're ever looking at the field, you go, uh, Trump, DeSantis, and the rest of the
01:39:46.660
And you're like, obviously Trump's the heavy favorite.
01:39:49.160
And, you know, still in every poll, even, even early States, DeSantis, I think, thought
01:39:53.020
it quitted himself pretty, pretty well, equipped himself pretty well in that debate.
01:39:56.500
And he was, uh, you know, uh, it seemingly has done pretty well in the, in the polls
01:40:01.580
And he saw it like Nikki Haley, seemingly people liked her performance.
01:40:04.560
Some people like the vague, it was sort of split on the vague, but you go through that
01:40:09.280
He really is, but you can come up with like a percentage of how you break that out.
01:40:13.340
And then you have to stop and think, well, what if they put Donald Trump in prison?
01:40:16.800
Does that make him more likely to get the nomination?
01:40:18.780
Does it make him less likely to get the nomination?
01:40:20.960
Do you have to change completely your percentages and how this breaks out?
01:40:25.100
It's almost, you almost have to game plan this different ways.
01:40:29.940
You're going down these roads and you don't know which, which way to go.
01:40:32.520
No, I think you just, uh, I think you just vote for the person you believe in.
01:40:36.820
Oh, I, I never think that should influence your vote.
01:40:39.940
When you're game planning, it's just like, I'm saying as an analyst to game plan, to figure
01:40:44.820
out what percentage chance a given candidate has, how can you answer the chance of Ron
01:40:51.380
We don't know the answer of whether Donald Trump is going to be in prison or not.
01:40:54.900
And when you don't know how the American people will react to that, that could make him a
01:41:05.620
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I don't know how I just assume it's going to occur.
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So I don't, I don't know if you saw what the Canadian foreign minister, uh, said.
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I know you were a big fan of the Canadian foreign minister.
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I'm saying some other people may have needed to hear the name.
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So foreign affairs minister, uh, Melanie Jolly, is said in an interview that Canada is working
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on quote, a game plan for the outcome of America's upcoming presidential election.
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Uh, apparently, uh, this is a quote foreign affairs.
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Uh, this is a quote from, uh, the, uh, national post foreign affairs minister.
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Melanie Jolly says Canada has been considering a game plan for how it will respond.
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If the United States takes a far right authoritarian shift after next year's presidential election.
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Now I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out, is that just Donald Trump or is that also that
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And I've actually heard the extremist, um, worse than Donald Trump, the vague.
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Oh, I mean, everyone's always worse when they, when they become a threat, they become worse.
01:44:13.220
Honestly, if Asa somehow gets the nomination, which is not going to occur, but if he did,
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they would say he's more dangerous than Donald Trump too.
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She reportedly added, I will work with my colleagues and with the mayors of the provincial
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premiers and with the business community and with the unions and everyone in the country.
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So we are regardless rather, uh, regardless of the election outcome.
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You say, congratulations to fill in name as they've won the next presidency of the United
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We, we are encouraged and we excited to work with him or her in the future.
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I mean, I don't think we have, you know, nobody's ever drawn up war plans against Canada
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That's how it, there's our big strategy session.
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Uh, he, I mean, at any point he could get into blackface and who knows what happens
01:45:38.380
Recent survey of hundreds of post-abortive women have found 60% of them would have preferred
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They just didn't feel like they had the support from others or the financial security.
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They're there for women during the darkest hour when they're deciding between life and
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And when she does, pre-born is there to help with up to two years of additional support.
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When you support pre-born, you not only support women, you actually empower them.
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That's something the left only thinks it understands.
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It'll help a woman make a choice that she won't have to regret for the rest of her life.
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The best election and debate coverage is on Blaze TV.
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You know, I don't know how I feel about this story.
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Israel TV's Channel 12 News released an investigative report about the five red heifers that were
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just brought to the Jewish state last September.
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and the supposed funneling of government funds to construct the third temple.
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Now, for those of you who know how the story ends, this could be a very exciting time.
01:47:43.400
Um, the, uh, last month, a journalist tweeted about an experiment conducted, uh, by Bar Ilan
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University professor, uh, Amar, who attempted to determine how many people could be ritually
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Apparently one has enough to purify 660 billion, uh, people, which, you know, there's not that
01:48:08.280
So I don't know why they got the other three had ref red heifers.
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Um, but apparently, uh, there's the reports now on Israeli TV claiming that there are plans
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and everything is in place to rebuild the third temple, which means if I understand it correctly,
01:48:26.900
that that building there on the temple mountain now, it's got a gold dome, I don't remember
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what it is exactly, would have to be deconstructed in some way or another.
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I think that's a big stumbling block, you know what I mean?
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I mean, I think it's one that's coming, uh, I don't know when, but, uh, you know, you could
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be prepared, but you know, it's like, uh, I'm going to marry, I'm going to marry a Stu's
01:49:00.800
I've, I've got everything ready except you haven't really talked to Lisa about it yet.
01:49:06.920
She's still married to Stu and happily married.
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Exaggerating things for the audience, but I know, I know what you're mean.
01:49:20.700
I will say that having the extra three halfers, it's good to be prepared.
01:49:27.920
I'd like to see the number of how many purifications it can perform a little bit farther away from
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six 60, you know, just a little bit farther away.
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I mean, I'd prefer six less, but I'm just, uh, I'm just saying, just saying.
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So, uh, Joe Biden, uh, is now talking about everybody getting the new COVID-19 vaccine.
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Uh, and he's requested more funding from Congress.
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I don't understand like what we have this system in the United States.
01:50:22.220
There are things that happen in, in life, right?
01:50:24.760
They're called illnesses, disease, ailments, all sorts of things.
01:50:29.000
And companies make things that they believe will, uh, help alleviate the symptoms, cure
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them, make all sorts of medicines for all sorts of things.
01:50:46.800
You decide you make the choice as to what you want to do with them, right?
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That's how it's, that's how it's always worked.
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Now I understand that a pandemic and what we dealt with COVID was a little bit different
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And there was a sort of a rush to, Hey, we, the government needs to pay for this, uh, because
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you know, we all like, it's an emergency and blah, blah, blah.
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We kind of remember that going on, but like it's 2023 now.
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Why would, why would Joe Biden have anything to do with them releasing a new vaccine?
01:51:19.800
If they want to release a new vaccine, wait a minute, wait a minute, you're saying,
01:51:22.540
if I may paraphrase Glenn, where is the pharmaceutical arm of the government in the
01:51:33.320
Because like if Pfizer or Moderna or Johnson and Johnson or any company wants to make a
01:51:41.260
COVID vaccine and put it on the market and go for it, let people decide whether they
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The things I don't understand is how we now infinitely pay for all of these vaccines.
01:51:56.660
Like I, why, why are we, why, why, like, but why come to me as a child and a child always
01:52:14.260
You probably butchered his name when he was on the show, too.
01:52:17.000
He's a professor of medicine at Stanford, one of the co-authors of the Great Barrington
01:52:22.340
He said the president's comments that all Americans will likely be advised to get a
01:52:29.820
new COVID vaccine as new variants spread is, quote, irresponsible.
01:52:35.100
He said the president said, I signed off this morning on a proposal.
01:52:40.860
We have to present to Congress a request for additional funding.
01:52:43.440
Again, why, why, why we don't need any more funding tentatively, not decided.
01:52:48.000
Finally, yet tentatively, it is recommended and it would likely be recommended that everybody
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get it no matter whether they got it before the good doctor said, you know, it's never
01:53:00.960
occurred to me that an American president would be the number one spokesperson for a
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It's irresponsible to make this kind of public health advice for the entire American public
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in the absence of excellent random randomized trial evidence.
01:53:18.200
We don't even have which is done with this vaccine yet.
01:53:23.140
Like, I don't even think they're done with it yet.
01:53:25.200
Yeah, I think they just are getting to the point where they're, you know, like seeing
01:53:30.680
Again, that's that's the problem that I pointed out on Friday's program when I played
01:53:41.620
Yeah, which it was 50 seconds of disclaimer of the one minute.
01:53:56.960
Despite the fact that these studies, what they're talking about are incredibly rare side
01:54:01.760
effects that affect almost no one who actually takes the medication, but they still have
01:54:05.380
to jam it into every commercial they do for the product.
01:54:18.360
Stop your belly aching or I'll give you something to belly ache about.
01:54:23.300
It's such a weird, like, it doesn't make any sense.
01:54:27.960
And, you know, you want to like, luckily, I think we're in a at a place at this point
01:54:32.780
where we can do with the government's advice what we do with all of their other advice when
01:54:41.040
Like, when's the last time you looked at the food pyramid?
01:54:43.660
I think they even changed it a few years ago under Obama, didn't they?
01:54:50.520
That is not, you know, at least it's not them saying they're going to mandate it or
01:54:55.800
But even the recommendation is sort of silly at this point.
01:54:58.840
Like, I don't know if you happen to be in a certain circumstance and you're like, you're
01:55:15.680
You could have broken that to us a little bit easier.
01:55:33.520
So sometime, you know, shortly after he heard, Bob Barker, come on down.
01:55:44.000
Did we just insert a segment from a different show?
01:55:50.780
Also, also, we lost Joe the plumber this weekend.
01:56:08.920
This audience, by the way, made a huge difference in the last days of his life.
01:56:14.960
I got a couple of emails after it happened, and they wanted me to honor you and tell you,
01:56:26.940
I don't have it, but tell you that when he was on the show a month ago?
01:56:37.720
We talked to him, and, you know, he said he was worried about his family stability, and,
01:56:45.420
And so we asked you to give, and you gave a lot, and his family reached out and wanted
01:56:55.300
you to know how much of a difference that you made in his last few weeks of life.
01:57:02.280
Man, am I understanding what he was able to move back closer to his extended family with?
01:57:15.480
I mean, you know, his story is such an American story, right?
01:57:19.040
Like, you think about other countries with kings and queens.
01:57:22.960
There's not, like, a story where one guy has a conversation with the king as they're walking
01:57:29.400
down the street and changes the dynamic, you know, and changes the conversation in the entire
01:57:36.720
And then, once again, at the end of his life, like, there's very few countries where I think
01:57:41.840
that would happen, where a person who's very sick, you know, has so many people who don't
01:57:46.780
know him reach out and change the last few days of his life.
01:57:49.960
I mean, you know, it's this really sad story, but has a lot of, there's something to take
01:57:57.280
By the way, those stories do happen in other countries.
01:58:03.620
I mean, a lot of people that they don't know reach out and behead them.
01:58:09.180
And it usually comes after walking down the street with the king saying, you know what?
01:58:16.560
Janet wrote in about her dog's experience with rough green.
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She says, our little rescue girl loves rough greens.
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If there's no rough greens in it, she sniffs and goes to the cupboard and waits until I
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She is a lot more energetic, more curious now, much more playful.
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All you have to do is just call for a free trial bag.
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You put it on your dog's food and they, A, love it and you will see healthy changes in
01:58:59.120
At least I have Janet has Stu has Pat has the folks at rough greens are confident that
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And then over time, you're going to see the changes that they're going to give you the
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01:59:29.880
So there's a, a, a new trial date, uh, for Donald Trump.
01:59:51.360
And, uh, it's, what is it federal, uh, January six charges that election interference.
01:59:59.920
So this is a federal, because the Georgia one is coming.
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I think when the RNC is actually having the convention.
02:00:09.540
It's, it's the day now it is a, a very tightly contested primary, actually caucus in North
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I mean, so who knows what's going to happen there.
02:00:25.060
It is the day before you want to talk about with a straight face.
02:00:30.520
We don't want to do anything that could influence an election the day before.
02:00:43.280
I mean, so super Tuesday, you have Alabama, Alaska, American Samoa, Arkansas, California,
02:00:48.460
Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas,
02:00:57.460
And they put, they're putting him to trial the day before.
02:01:02.840
I mean, I have to tell you, I, I, I mean, it was honestly, Stu, honestly, honestly, it's,
02:01:09.360
they act as if they just know they could beat him.
02:01:15.240
I don't know if we could beat anybody else, but we could certainly beat him.
02:01:19.080
And they want him because you're going to vote the very next day.
02:01:28.000
Every Republican primary voter is going to be thinking that way.
02:01:35.620
There's no, there's no way, there's no way they're going to let up on this guy.
02:01:48.060
Every time they say, well, this is going to be the one that gets him.
02:01:50.740
Uh, you know, and so far, uh, no, it's not the one they're just digging a hole deeper and deeper for themselves.
02:02:01.340
And by the way, where the hell are the Republicans?
02:02:04.300
I keep hearing that, you know, we're going to look into, you're going to look at what's happening.
02:02:25.140
And I don't know what, like, you don't, it's difficult to figure out what goes on here because if we, if what we believe, what we say, we believe you've done a million shows on the deep state and how serious they do these things.
02:02:35.780
And they'll go to any lengths to, to trample, uh, this entire process.
02:02:41.120
If you really do believe that, how do you believe that they go over 91 and this guy's walking around doing debates, you know, against Joe Biden?
02:02:53.220
If, if they are who we've said they are, this is what's going to occur at the end of this.
02:02:58.000
And then what do you want him to be the candidate and then put him in jail?
02:03:06.740
Do the Republic, do the Republicans, honestly, would the Republicans try to figure out a way out of it and say, well, you know what?
02:03:17.840
I wouldn't be, that would be a horrible outcome.
02:03:19.620
Oh, I don't see any good outcomes coming out of this.
02:03:23.640
I don't know what, what the outcome could be that would be positive for this system.
02:03:28.780
You know, this is a, we've had Jesse Kelly on the program before.
02:03:33.880
He says, they're never going to let him be president again.
02:03:40.420
If you don't see that, you don't understand what you're dealing with.
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Well, we have Donald Trump on with us tomorrow.
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Don't miss tomorrow's episode of the Glenn Beck program.