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00:04:12.580You're not going to be able to get gasoline-powered cars starting soon.
00:04:18.700And so the rural areas, the farming areas, the places in the middle of the country that won't have charging stations everywhere will be just taking their old cars and redoing them and paying really high gas prices because gas will be hard to get.
00:04:37.180But you won't be able to have the electric car and many people won't be able to afford in 2030 a brand new electric car.
00:04:47.660And so our country is going to be split again.
00:04:50.580You go into the cities and it'll all be electric.
00:04:52.700You go outside of the cities and it will start looking more and more like Cuba.
00:04:57.520We are being pushed down into a second world kind of economy.
00:05:54.480Costco, the chief financial officer, said yesterday they're bringing back purchase limits on household essentials, such as toilet paper, bottled water, and cleaning supplies.
00:06:05.660Membership-only warehouse chain said it wants to make sure these items stay on shelves as it copes with the supply chain challenges.
00:06:13.800See, another thing we're doing is, have you noticed that the government is not concentrating on things that we learned through COVID?
00:11:17.420It's kind of like a bet on an existing product that doesn't necessarily function into the normal balance sheet of that product, the financial product.
00:11:54.080Bet on things that are multiple times as risky as the normal financial product.
00:12:01.140They should be illegal, but they won't be because that's how the banks make their money.
00:12:05.860There are private dark pools of money, lots of money.
00:12:10.020So, out of this $350 billion in bond, they believe, according to the Swiss bank, that about a trillion dollars, a trillion dollars in derivatives, that was people betting that they're going to fold or betting that they're going to make the payment.
00:12:32.100But, again, as Stu just pointed out, a lot of that money is borrowed money.
00:12:40.100The biggest impact is going to be in the Asia-Pacific countries, Singapore, Australia, because they put all of their money from their teachers' unions and their retirement funds.
00:12:52.660They put money into this because it was a good return.
00:12:56.320But it was a shell game, total shell game.
00:17:50.500We are producing a program in, I think it comes out in three or four weeks.
00:18:07.260And we are asking, this is the first time I think I've ever done this, anyone who can give ironclad proof that Fauci knew we were funding gain-of-function research of coronavirus in Wuhan and actively sought to suppress any discussion of it.
00:18:22.760If you are a whistleblower, we need you for our special.
00:18:27.480We would like to have someone that knows it firsthand or has proof of it firsthand, please contact us.
00:18:37.280Contact this program and help us out, will you?
00:18:43.180Okay, let's go to the Wall Street Journal.
00:19:25.140Now, on the New York Times side, as you mentioned, so this is from Eric Lipton, his guy who writes about cryptocurrency often for the New York Times.
00:19:32.800He writes, to those who consider cryptocurrency hard to understand and aren't paying attention, time to rethink.
00:19:38.980Bitcoin may seem speculative, and yes, it is.
00:19:41.800But global financial system is being revolutionized.
00:20:02.800As well, that they, it doesn't say they are doing it, but it says that they are seriously considering it and trying to figure out how to do it.
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00:24:55.860Mike Lee and I were talking on the phone just a couple of nights ago about the Constitution and I asked him some questions and I thought, you know, this is an interesting conversation.
00:25:06.680We should just have some of this on the air.
00:25:12.420So, Mike, I was talking to you about ways to understand the Constitution and I'm working on something to where you don't have to even read it.
00:25:25.220And I know you don't recommend that, but people have to start to understand what the government can and cannot do.
00:25:34.260And I was talking to you about we we loan our rights out or we we give our rights to the to the government to lend them so they can do the things that we we can't do ourselves.
00:25:54.680For instance, police, we can't we have the right to defend ourself.
00:25:58.980We have a right to stop a person from robbing us.
00:26:03.400We have a right to stop somebody from stealing our stuff.
00:26:07.320We even have a right to a citizen's arrest and holding somebody until the authorities arrive.
00:26:13.720And the authorities are using the power that we give them to then take them to trial, et cetera, et cetera.
00:26:20.680We don't have the right to string somebody up.
00:26:23.560But if we if we were alone and we were just a bunch of individuals with no government, we would have the right to collectively get together and judge a person.
00:26:34.640And hopefully it would be fair and then execute the punishment.
00:26:45.220Look, all of us are born with certain natural rights, certain God given rights.
00:26:50.120Fundamental rights, fundamental rights that guarantee that we should have the ability to live our lives and to have the protection of life and liberty and property.
00:27:00.940Government is there to protect those same things, to stand in for us so that we can live our lives and not have to worry constantly about protecting that which is ours.
00:27:11.280And when we bring government in, we don't give government more power than we ought naturally morally to have on our own over our own fellow beings.
00:27:22.600And so government is there more as a surrogate and security guard than it is a parent.
00:27:28.700And in fact, Alexis de Tocqueville observed something like this as he was touring America in the 1830s and explaining why our revolution seemed to have taken hold and embraced liberty, while the French not so much.
00:27:42.660He said, you see, when government steps into the place of a parent, it's preparing children for perpetual childhood and adolescence.
00:27:53.920Parents, of course, are preparing their children for adulthood.
00:27:57.280But when government acts that way, it's preparing them for captivity.
00:28:39.060And quite honestly, this is why we go to war and we're willing to die, because my rights are more important than my life.
00:28:47.880My rights that are my children's rights.
00:28:51.520That's why I'm willing to go and die in a war, because I need to preserve those rights for future generations.
00:28:59.940And that's where the government is going wrong.
00:29:02.220And any time they say the government, the government has to protect us.
00:29:06.220No, they don't know that that usually leads to bad things.
00:29:11.380But actually raises an excellent point, Glenn, what he ought to be focused on is those areas where his statement happens to be true within that narrow sphere.
00:29:18.980So, yes, it is his job to protect us as commander in chief of the armed forces.
00:29:24.320I wish he had been focusing on that rather than on extraneous things.
00:29:28.220And maybe the Bosch withdrawal from Afghanistan wouldn't have been so fatal.
00:29:33.020So he also he also has the the responsibility to protect us through our border, right?
00:29:39.340He does indeed. He has a constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
00:29:45.800That is his job as the chief executive officer of the U.S. government.
00:29:50.400He didn't do that either. And there, too, the results are tragic.
00:29:55.140You see, this is what happens with governments.
00:29:57.260When governments start focusing on the things that they're not supposed to do,
00:30:00.940they lose sight of the few things they are supposed to do and that we rely on them exclusively to do.
00:30:09.340Let me I'd like to continue our conversation.
00:30:15.420But our our our rights are being destroyed left and right,
00:30:22.740and we are fundamentally transforming our economy, our banking system, everything.
00:30:31.380And, Mike, I don't I don't know how you feel about, you know, some of the things about the Great Reset.
00:30:37.040But we are developing an entirely new style of government.
00:39:25.200But oddly, no matter what evidence is presented, this just continues to go on.
00:39:32.860And it shows the power of the teachers unions to fight against science, not following it, not even leading it, but literally fighting against it.
00:39:51.100I mean, there are areas that we're not, maybe not the only, I think we're the only country doing it in a widespread fashion like this.
00:40:00.320Now, of course, obviously, our own country, our whole country is not doing it either.
00:40:04.580I mean, and we have, thankfully, because of our system of government and our constitution that continues to hold up a little bit, you know, Joe Biden can't just do these things.
00:40:13.580And he's, he's, as you point out, with the vaccine mandate, it is awfully suspicious that we still don't even have the rule written yet.
00:50:08.480Now they're turning on Biden a little bit.
00:50:10.980Now this is even worse for the New York Times and the Washington Post.
00:50:15.160They don't know what to do now because people of color are turning on Biden.
00:50:21.360And it's from my purge, because I'm a big picture guy, unlike you, Beck, I'm a big picture guy.
00:50:30.680I'm seeing a total deterioration, not only of the Biden presidency, but of the corrupt corporate media.
00:50:38.420But they don't know what the deuce to do.
00:50:41.08070, I think it's 73 percent of the American public in the latest poll I saw blamed the media for this debacle down on the border because they said that, I mean, they blamed Biden.
00:50:55.040But more of them also blamed the media because they said they never covered it until now.
00:51:01.700And if they would have covered it, we would have been forced to pay attention.
00:51:08.940You know, we often talk about people not paying attention and being prisoners to their cell phones.
00:51:15.940But I think that after a while, when the situation becomes so irredeemable, and this applies to Afghanistan and to inflation, that even the dimmest among us, which would be probably Beverly Hills, Hollywood,
00:51:33.380they start to go, oh, well, maybe we're on the wrong track here.
00:51:39.920You know, it's just good for the folks.
00:51:42.160Let me ask you about the covid mandate a week ago.
00:51:47.120Biden came out and said his patience is running thin.
00:51:50.580He's going to be mandating these vaccines.
00:52:03.780They have to take the backs because they're employed and Biden's in charge of the federal government.
00:52:09.360So he can do that and he's not going to lose legally.
00:52:12.160But once he starts to tell Sally in Des Moines, Iowa, that she has to be vaccinated and so do her children, then Biden is into Supreme Court territory.
00:52:23.460And I think that the Democrats and the progressives and people who run by know they have a better than even chance of losing.
00:52:34.560Because it's unlike smallpox and and measles and things like that, the vaccines are not locked down.
00:52:43.980They will be as they get perfected, but not quite yet.
00:52:49.680And so the argument can be made that, look, you're forcing people to take a vaccine they don't want.
00:52:54.840And they're not really protected from covid and look at all the breakthrough and crossover cases.
00:53:20.040What the Australian government's doing.
00:53:22.320Well, the the Biden administration, when he came out and said, I want mandates, the number of people that got vaccines actually has gone down pretty dramatically.
00:54:16.580That hardened the resistance and brought sympathy in some precincts to the anti-vax movement because they don't like Biden.
00:54:27.740I mean, you know, conservative people don't like Biden, but the untold story here, and I'm writing a column partially about this on Sunday.
00:54:34.940Again, below rally.com is where I am, is that the African-American community is by far.
00:54:43.200The most anti-vax community in the United States.
00:54:46.960You've seen that reported on NBC, ABC or CBS lately.
00:54:50.720No, Black Lives Matter is actually screaming that New York City mandates are racist now.
00:58:00.640Bill O'Reilly, Haitian migrant families who illegally crossed the southern border and lived in a makeshift camp beneath the International Bridge,
00:58:21.580are being released into the United States, contradicting the Biden administration's claims that they would be removed from the country.
00:58:29.640Buses come from the processing centers throughout the region where migrants who have been waiting for days under the Del Rio-Acuna International Bridge are transported and processed into the system.
00:58:40.980From there, they are either released into the U.S. if they make a credible claim of fear of returning to their own country or flown back to their country of origin.
00:58:49.820Greyhound buses arrive at a gas station at 11.30 and 5.30 p.m. daily.
00:58:55.020The buses take passengers directly to San Antonio, Texas, roughly two and a half hours away.
00:59:06.700These people that have come across and they were supposed to be getting rid of, the U.S. government is just picking them up in buses and dropping them off at a gas station.
00:59:17.640Yeah, so the Biden administration, as usual, doesn't tell the truth to the American people.
00:59:23.040If you're a single Haitian male, they won't let you in.
00:59:27.880But if you're a family, a father, mother, a kid, they will.
00:59:32.380And you will get to go where you want to go, just as most of the other two million people have crossed into the USA since Biden has been in office.
00:59:45.900Most of those people are scattered around the country now.
01:00:32.300But it is not a political situation there in the sense that these Haitians, if sent back, are going to get beheaded like they would in Afghanistan.
01:00:47.200So, you know, if you're going to let every person in the country who lives in a corrupt, poor nation, then a United States ceases to exist.
01:14:40.400Glenn Greenwald on Hunter Biden coming up in just a second.
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01:18:34.840If you look at these pictures and think that this is as bad, if not worse than slavery, and that this is whipping these Haitian immigrants.
01:19:10.820I mean, this is a person who has an, has escaped an asylum and has got it, got into Congress.
01:19:16.840She's a person who, uh, you know, in her district, by the way, we had a black Republican candidate who's being, you know, uh, having eggs thrown at them in a gorilla mask by a white person.
01:19:31.360This is the same person who encouraged people to go out and harass Trump officials all over the place.
01:19:36.540Now she's saying a person on a horse who is trying to stop a person from illegally crossing back into our country after leaving to get takeout food from like Chili's.
01:19:49.540There's never been a genocidal act that has occurred with takeout food from Applebee's.
01:22:24.760A severe escalation of the war on a free internet and free discourse has taken place over the last 12 months.
01:22:34.080Numerous examples of brute and dangerous censorship have emerged.
01:22:38.760The destruction by big tech monopolies of Parler at the behest of democratic politicians at the time.
01:22:46.540That it was the most downloaded app in the country.
01:22:50.400The banning of the sitting president from social media.
01:22:54.040The increasingly explicit threats from elected officials in the majority party of legal and regulatory reprisals in the event that tech platforms do not censor more in accordance with their demands.
01:23:06.800But the most severe episode of all was the joint campaign in the weeks before the 2020 election by the CIA, big tech, the liberal wing of the corporate media, and the Democratic Party to censor and suppress a series of major reports about the then presidential frontrunner Joe Biden.
01:23:29.420October 14th and then on October 15th, 2020, the New York Post, the nation's oldest newspaper, published two news reports on Joe Biden's activities in Ukraine and China that raised serious questions.
01:23:46.660Glenn Greenwald is here to tell us all about the conclusion.
01:24:30.580Yeah, so when the New York Post first reported the story, as somebody who has worked many times on large archives of documents and had to stake my reputation in my career on verifying that they were genuine before reporting them,
01:24:47.020something I did when I reported on Edward Snowden's archive about the NSA and with WikiLeaks many times and also a big story in Brazil when I got a large archive,
01:24:56.720it was obvious to me that the evidence was overwhelming that these documents were authentic.
01:25:00.740It had every indicia of authenticity that was reported by Fox News, the New York Post, the Daily Caller, and others.
01:25:07.780But the rest of the media, the corporate media, ignored that evidence and tried to lead everybody to believe that the documents were forged, that they were fake.
01:25:18.140And the biggest gift they got was when the CIA, a bunch of former CIA officials like John Brennan and James Clapper, issued a letter saying that they believed that the archive was Russian disinformation,
01:25:34.880One is it came from Russia, but the second, it's disinformation, meaning the documents are fake, and therefore you shouldn't pay attention to them.
01:25:41.560And in that letter, Glenn, the CIA operatives admitted they had no evidence that it came from Russia or that the documents were fake.
01:25:51.680They just said it's kind of just our sense that this is the case.
01:25:58.300We emphasize that we do not know if the emails provided by the New York Post or President Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not,
01:26:06.880and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement, just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case.
01:26:24.620And what's amazing is even they who are, you know, basically trained disinformation agents, such as the CIA and the intelligence community is constructed to do.
01:26:33.260They're not supposed to do it domestically, as they did during the Trump years, but they do or they're expected to do it internationally.
01:26:41.880Even they were more honest than what the corporate media ended up using that letter for, which was to say these intelligence officials say definitively that this is Russian disinformation.
01:26:53.760And, you know, you can go through every video from CNN and MSNBC and NBC News and CBS News and The Washington Post and New York Times where they just say over and over, this is Russian disinformation, and they use that as an excuse not even to discuss the revelations.
01:27:09.900But the worst thing of all is that Twitter and Facebook then seized on that claim to censor, censor this story from being discussed.
01:27:20.620So if you try to post a link to the New York Post reporting or other media outlets discussing it, you would get a message saying this link is prohibited.
01:27:29.180It was one of the most astounding acts of brute censorship by this union of the intelligence community, the corporate media, and big tech right before our election that I've ever seen.
01:27:39.900So, Glenn, where does this story go from here?
01:27:50.780And it shows it's not a story about Hunter Biden.
01:27:53.920It is a story about Joe Biden being corrupt to his eyeballs in things like trying to sell access to him to be able to get Libyan money released, access to the Oval Office and to Joe Biden for Mexico and China and money being demanded for these things.
01:28:18.060This is this is this is some of the most gross corruption of our administration that has actually been able to come out and be proven.
01:28:26.360I think for me, the biggest corruption, the worst corruption is the journalistic corruption.
01:28:34.280So the reason we're talking about this story again, aside from the new emails about what he did in Libya, which are extremely incriminating, is because, as I said, from the beginning, there was evidence and proof that these emails were authentic.
01:28:47.940The problem was they came from right wing outlets and liberals have been trained to just ignore everything that comes from right wing outlets.
01:28:56.540What we have now is a new book by a young, actually courageous reporter who deserves a lot of credit, Ben Schreckinger, who works at Politico as mainstream of an outlet as it gets.
01:29:07.180It's obviously no friend of the right wing. Right. And in his book, which is all about investigating the Biden, he spent months doing really deep dive reporting to try and find the proof about whether these emails, the key ones, not the like ancillary ones about Hunter Biden's personal life, which personally I don't care about.
01:29:25.360But the substantive ones about Joe Biden deals in China and his interference in Ukraine on behalf of Burisma, which is paying his son $50,000, the actual corruption of Joe Biden, he proved with months of reporting that these emails are accurate.
01:29:41.480And here's the thing. If he had proven the opposite, if he had, through these months of reporting, had gathered proof that these emails were actually forged, he would be the biggest star in American media right now.
01:29:52.920He'd be on Good Morning America and the Today Show and every single program.
01:29:56.800But because his reporting proved that the media lies and that these emails are authentic, he has not been on one of those shows, NPR, CNN, any of the networks.
01:30:07.180And in fact, Glenn, they won't even mention his book.
01:30:11.500They won't even acknowledge this proof that everything they told the American people for weeks is an absolute lie.
01:30:18.460This is Russian disinformation. And in fact, these emails were authentic all along.
01:30:22.960That is how grotesquely corrupt our media is.
01:30:27.140Well, we'll call Ben. I'll give him a full hour to talk about his about his book.
01:30:32.880So what is the solution, Glenn, for the media?
01:30:37.780Because do you think the media is ever going to take this on and treat this as a real story?
01:30:45.100Not their part of it, but the actual corruption part?
01:30:49.680No, I mean, that's the other thing is, you know, Ben Treckinger's book, one part of it is confirming the authenticity of the emails.
01:30:58.340Most of it is about investigating the Biden family, the way that every other first family has been investigated.
01:31:05.180The Clintons, the Obamas, the Trumps, you know, the Bushes.
01:31:09.680The Bushes, but we don't know very much about the Bidens.
01:31:12.740And so they've ignored this book, both parts of it.
01:31:15.380And I think, look, for me, I used to think that the corporate media could be reformed through criticism, through critique, through pressure campaigns.
01:31:29.680They are they lie for as their model on purpose for ideological and business ends.
01:31:35.300And so I think the solution is, number one, to make people aware as clearly as possible that they should keep and despise the corporate media, that whatever contempt they have for it probably isn't enough.
01:31:49.180And then, number two, to encourage and build independent platforms that aren't susceptible to censorship by big tax and that aren't subject to the pieties and orthodoxies of these institutions of authority that control what these other outlets have done.
01:32:05.900And in a lot of ways, they are their own worst enemies.
01:32:08.460If you look at polling, the media is held in lower esteem than almost any other institution in our society, like right above, you know, like pedophiles.
01:33:03.100Yeah, you know, I do think these outlets are losing influence.
01:33:10.260If you look at, for example, the ratings of the two largest liberal outlets, CNN and MSNBC, they were already in collapse before Trump arrived.
01:33:23.160All those hosts were about to get fired because nobody was watching their shows.
01:33:28.080Trump single handedly saved that part of the media because it gave people a desire to watch and it enabled them to scare everybody about Trump sufficiently to make people pay attention.
01:33:39.980And with Trump gone, they're back to disappearing.
01:33:42.880I mean, the ratings of CNN and MSNBC are humiliatingly little.
01:33:47.260I mean, they get, you know, on their best days, what like a mid-level YouTuber gets.
01:33:53.700And so, and then you look at, you know, like Fox News and other outlets that challenge the liberal orthodoxies and putting people like OAN and, you know, these maps that are growing.
01:34:02.260But what's really growing are independent platforms, people who are on Rumble, who are on Substack, who are on YouTube even, who can teach on Twitter.
01:34:11.440People who have these dissonant voices are able to shape discourse in ways that previously they never were able to do before.
01:34:19.200And that's the thing that I think needs to be built and fortified.
01:34:23.400So is the, is the social media, the corporate social media, are they doomed for the same kind of fate?
01:34:36.420I mean, you know, when I, you know, the first time you and I ever talked along was I think like a year or so after I began doing the reporting from Edward Snowden about how the NSA was spying on everybody.
01:34:46.520And my cause back then was a free internet because I always viewed the internet as one of the most important human innovations to free us from the tyranny of centralized government and corporate control because it would enable us to communicate with one another without their intervention.
01:35:03.800And what the certain story was about and now what big tech censorship is about is this attempt to degrade that internet from this tool of liberation into a tool of coercion.
01:35:15.080And yeah, I do think that the kind of, you know, Silicon Valley giants, the monopolies like Facebook and Google and Apple and Amazon are obviously being increasingly controlled in terms of the things you can and can't say on there.
01:35:29.060And that's why these alternatives like Grumble, like Substack, like people turning to Bitcoin and blockchain, which will decentralize control of how we communicate with one another are becoming more and more popular.
01:35:43.000Because what's the point of having an internet at the same corporate and state forces dictate and censor and police what we can say as always we're in control beforehand.
01:35:54.100And the, I mean, the thing that always crosses my mind is there's an awful lot of money and power at stake.
01:36:02.580And that's why I can't see the United States government, you know, letting Bitcoin and letting social media get out of their grasps.
01:36:12.260Yeah, I mean, anytime you have a new technology, a new instrument, a new weapon, whatever you want to call it, and the internet can be described as all of those things that can actually threaten prevailing status quo power and power centers, you're obviously going to have a war over who gets to control it.
01:36:36.160So if you look at the internet and what's been happening, for example, with privacy, while the NSA and its allies and China and Iran are always looking for ways to control the internet to prevent dissent from circulating, you have privacy activists and technology specialists holding tools like encryption in order to stay one step ahead of them.
01:36:59.280And it's kind of like an arms race. Now with Bitcoin chain, which are being championed by, you know, some of the most influential people in the world, like Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk and others, it's going to be a war over that technology as well.
01:37:14.220You're going to have the state that's going to try and control it, and you're going to have people who are going to try and fortify it.
01:37:20.080Just one quick, really interesting thing that I think from history that a lot of people have forgotten, after the bombing of the courthouse in Oklahoma City in 1995, that ultimately was blamed on Timothy McVeigh, the Clinton administration, this was right when the internet was starting, tried to seize on that threat and the fears generated by it.
01:37:39.240They were all on the cover of Time Magazine every weekend. It was like, weekend militias and white militias and all of that.
01:37:45.320They tried to seize on that fear to introduce legislation that barred encryption, or that at least required that the government always have a backdoor to encryption.
01:37:55.440And they lost. So this battle has been going on for, you know, 20 years over who's going to get to control the internet and how it's going to be functioning.
01:38:04.180And it's never going to end, because that's what institutions of power do, is they try and protect their power.
01:38:10.580Glenn Greenwald, thank you so much for everything. It's always a pleasure to have you on. Appreciate it. Thanks for all the work you do.
01:38:16.320Yeah, it was great to be with you. Thanks for having me.
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