The Biden Lies Revealed in Tucker's Interview with Devon Archer | Guests: Rep. Jim Jordan & Jonathan Isaac | 8⧸3⧸23
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In this episode of the Glenn Back Program, Glenn talks about the recent Tucker Carlsons interview with Devan Archer, and how it could have been handled better. Glenn also talks about a new book by Jordan Peterson called "The Tunnel Twins and the 12 Rules Boot Camp" and why we have a moral problem.
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so devon archer uh was uh on with tucker carlson on his twitter cast and uh i want to just play some
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of the some of the things i thought it was did you see it all stew yeah i watched i think there's going
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to be more right like he had released one right clip i think there's going to be an extended interview
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that comes after this but i watched the entire clip that was released uh yeah and so so i do feel
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bad for tucker because he did this thing calling a show tucker on twitter and then they changed the
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name of twitter so now yeah is he tucker on x now i don't i don't even understand what's what's happening
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i i i don't know and i don't know how you're tweeting what you say when you tweet i i don't know
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it's very uncomfortable but anyway uh as i'm watching this uh with uh devon archer i it was interesting
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because tucker was speaking archer's language and so there i felt like there was a lot of
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winking and nodding oh yeah did you feel that way a hundred percent they in fact it was right
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you know i was looking at clips to pull from it to you know to give uh you know that we can play for
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the audience but it was like there's so many of them that they don't get to the final thing they're
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saying because they both kind of wink nod and laugh at each other because they know what they're saying
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but they don't actually say it so it was hard to find the right clips to to play right and they did
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that because uh they're both washington creatures you know what i mean oh yeah tucker is a guy who grew
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up in washington his uh family was in the media he knows it real well and so does devon archer uh and
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so let's just play some of these clips here this is uh uh hunter was an expert in knowing the guy
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the initial idea around the business they were going to provide you know the government insight
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and an additional network to raise capital and then you know deal with regulatory issues that you
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might have at the corporate level right regulatory issues exactly okay so that would be more his
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right that would be his right but did he have a a sophisticated understanding of regulation do you think
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um i think that he led a team that had had a had a sophisticated because i lived in washington a long
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time around a lot of regulation also a very complex area absolutely absolutely i think there's that you
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know you got to be an expert in knowing the guy and he was the guy that was the expert in knowing the
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guy he was an expert in knowing the guy right and who was the guy he knew uh well he knew a lot of
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people but obviously there was some familiar you know some his brother his father uh yeah uh some of
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his father's siblings so he knew a lot of people and and obviously i know you're pointing to you know
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the father being the key relationship well no i i'm just trying to get a sense of like washington's
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not a money town right you know people don't aren't in business in washington for the most part and
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most people don't have business skills that i noticed in 30 years of living there um so really
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the business of washington is is selling access that's what it looked like to me not just under
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biden but like yeah no i think that's i mean i think that's the one of the like core misconceptions
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i mean it seems like when i you know understanding a regulatory environment means selling access at the
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end of the day that's how i interpret it and i think that's how most people on you know in wall
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street whether they admit it or not interpret it yeah so we're gonna we've got a complex business
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that intersects with government we need a guy who knows it right how do i you know deal with
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getting a guy a visa that needs to come over for business deal right call our lobbyist that knows
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the guy in dhs or used to work in dhs or you know in customs border patrol or the people at the embassy
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in state they might be able to help so they're very like tactical elements that are regulatory and
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compliance and governance that you have to go through and you got to know the guy that right worked
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at the old agency that now has the lobbying firm that can go back to the agency and you know get get
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things put to the front of the line well that's exactly what i want is a guy who knows a guy
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um but most of the guys he knows uh you know can line you up with hookers and crack
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but i i think we all understand what is being said here now one of the key things that the phone calls
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that nobody i don't hear anybody talking about he is talking about uh he's he's about to talk about
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some of the phone calls and how that how joe biden knew that businessmen were present during the hunter
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phone calls okay let's just i want you to remember one thing and i don't hear anybody talking about it
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these calls the issue here is the time of day for example the call with burisma took place while hunter
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was in qatar and it was in the afternoon well that's the middle of the night here so dad calls
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at one o'clock in the morning he just hey son i'm thinking about he's not up at one o'clock in the
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morning he's not there so he's calling over uh to china in the middle of the night and just i just
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happen to be i happen to be up really and if it happens during the middle of the work day
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does dad just take the phone call is he just is he so um not busy that he can just take the phone call
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at any time and he's making phone calls in the middle of the night you're having dinner over in
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europe and it's eight o'clock at night in washington dc that's two or three o'clock in the morning
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can somebody ask that question all right so here's a cut to biden knew that businessmen were present
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during the hunter call biden then the sitting vice president knew that there were hunters business
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associates in the room yeah i think i can i can definitively say at particular dinners or meetings
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he knew there were business associates and he you know we dinners or if i was there i was a
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business associate too um so i think or if you know any of the other colleagues from the dc office
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or the new york office were there so yeah at times there were from the you know to be you know completely
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clear on the calls i don't know if it was an orchestrated call in or not it certainly was powerful
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though because you know if you're sitting with a foreign business person and you hear the vice
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president's voice that's prizing up i mean that's that's that's pretty impactful stuff
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yeah it is impactful stuff there isn't it and you notice remember he said at these dinners
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remember the ones that are in question are at least in europe now hunter biden calling dad
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is that an abuse of power at all cut three you've got a lot of kids you're close to them do you call
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them on speaker during business meetings um do i call i mean what is that a brown man calling his
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dad on a speaker phone during a business right to be clear sometimes it was the call was coming in and
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the speaker would go on so it was it's just the presence you have to be i mean you're you you
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understand dc right so the power to have that access in that conversation and it's not in a scheduled
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conference call and it's a part of your family that's that's like the pinnacle of uh of power
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in dc 100 i guess i'm pivoting against the lie that i'm hearing people tell with a straight face
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congressman goldman for example that we don't really know what was going really you're taking
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a call from the vice president and you put it on speaker it's not just hey dad i'm in a meeting with
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some buddies right it's let me let me put my dad the vice president on speaker yeah yep in the rear view
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it's uh it's a it's an abuse of soft power i'd say hmm in the rear view in the rear view okay all right
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one last thing um at the end of the clip that was released on twitter yesterday or x uh tucker showed
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devin a letter from joe biden from 2011 and it's a pretty impressive letter for a guy who is a lacrosse
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player that's what he did he was a lacrosse player and then he went into business and right right as
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they're going into business joe biden writes him this letter now listen to this clip we found this letter
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kind of amazing it's from january 20th 2011 which i think puts you in your late 30s mid mid to
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late 30s okay so you're you're a younger man this is from the vice president united states joe biden to
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you personally and it's personalized here at the bottom devin archer rosemont seneca partners that
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was your partnership with hunter biden in georgetown dear devin i apologize for not getting a chance to
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talk to you at the luncheon yesterday i was having trouble getting away from hosting president who
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who's in tang who's yes running china at that point i hope i get a chance to see you again soon with
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hunter i hope you enjoyed lunch thanks for coming sincerely joseph r biden jr p.s handwritten happy you
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guys are together so there are many levels here but here's the vice president united states saying
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to you a man in his mid 30s he was not a government official i'm sorry i was occupied with the guy who
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runs the world's largest country i would much rather talk to you and thank you what was he thanking you
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for well uh you know first of all it's a lovely letter and it was it's quite enthusiastic it's a little
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weird though right yeah well it was it listen it was it was kind of the beginning of our partnership
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and he was thanking me and thanking hunter i think at the end of the day for bringing this idea of this
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government regulatory strategic advisory business into the private equity world and i think he was
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excited about the prospects for hunter and um you know he was uh just just thanking me i think it was a
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nice gesture yeah yeah nice gesture stew i mean yeah very nice gesture i mean i know if i am meeting
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with the you know the leader of the second most powerful and i'm arguably now the most powerful country
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in the world um and my son is like hey dad dad dad dad my friend is here my friend is here you're
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gonna meet with him i look at my son going i'm meeting with the leader of china right now and but the
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first thing i do is say hey secretary come on in here just for a second i just i want to dictate a
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letter here um hey rafe's friend sorry i couldn't get away i mean i would do it with a lot of sarcasm i think
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they might think it was nice but it would be completely sarcastic sorry i couldn't break myself away
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to meet with you yesterday uh but i was busy with the chinese leader uh but uh hope to see you really
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soon by the way thank you sincerely for all you're doing yeah and if what they're doing is putting
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together this uh partnership where they are creating the illusion of using me i thought he didn't know
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about hunter's business at all yeah i didn't think he had met with anybody talked to anybody knew
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anything we're so far i suppose past this but again this has never really been changed by biden himself
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we now see corinne jean pierre saying he's never been in business with hunter that's their new spin
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on the old claim that he didn't ever speak to hunter about his business uh it was interesting to watch
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this happen and i think it's important to remember who devon archer is this is a guy who was roommates
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with john carrey's stepson uh he uh was he was the i think the campaign finance co-chair of the john
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carrey campaign this is not a conservative you're hearing from here and watching him try to answer
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these things it seems like he's being somewhat careful with what he's saying he's still in legal
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trouble and he is facing a lot of the same things uh that joe and hunter should be facing as far as
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charges go so he's trying to navigate those waters you can tell he there's he's kind of saying this
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stuff with with that wink and a nod because he knows he's at risk and he can't say everything he
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wants to say but even with that i think you get a lot out of this and this is just the first clip of
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this interview this is this is a big deal and yeah and you also get uh from it the arrogance
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i mean i think i think tucker played this expertly he approached him as a peer look you and i are both
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we grew up in washington and we know what's going on here am i right yeah yeah i guess you i mean
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retrospect i guess it wasn't really a good idea yeah they were they were approach he approached this
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interview with a i know what's going on come on you know what's going on i know what's going on
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and surprisingly uh devon archer went right down that path with him yeah and uh that shows the
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arrogance and shows the elitism of devon archer and it may have come to a point here where archer has
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realized whatever protection he might get from these relationships is now gone and he has nothing
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to lose right i mean he's being he's being they're coming after him for other uh supposed offenses which
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i have not you know i i have not looked all that closely into whether he's guilty with of the other
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stuff um but all this stuff is on the record these are emails sent at the time we don't need to
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trust devon archer to believe these things uh and that you know that's the newest thing that the
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left is trying to do which is smear his character and say you shouldn't believe any of the stuff he
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says while at the same time admitting it's true right like their their answer was not oh he didn't
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have 20 calls with joe with hunter biden's business associates it was oh they just talked about the
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weather oh it was no big deal oh it's been known forever uh you know these are are are separate sort of
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responses to this and defenses that don't shy away from the central truth here that all this stuff
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so stew i can't remember exactly i'm gonna have to go back into our archives and and look but i can't
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remember why i feel this way but uh it's interesting to me that john carrey's son all of a sudden he was
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an equal partner all of a sudden distanced himself from all of this he was like uh you know i gotta i i i
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gotta make a phone call and he never he never returns i'm going out the store for some milk and
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never comes back um and if i remember right maybe you can clear this up it was kind of that feeling
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when he left that i don't want to be involved in any of this do you remember it that way when you
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say you he doesn't want to be involved in all this you're saying in business with hunter yes
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uh yeah i mean obviously there was so much controversy toward the end of that and there
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was i mean i think a lot of people try to stay out of the blast radius when all that stuff starts
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happening yeah uh which i understand um my it seemed like they were very close for a long time i don't
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remember exactly when the breakup was though uh you know they they were i'm gonna have to go back to
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the archives because i know we talked about it maybe three years ago yeah uh and uh my recollection
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was it was like what what i was friends with him i don't know what you're talking about i was not
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i don't know what you know one of those situations where he it felt like that there had been meetings
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where he's like guys this is this is not good this is way too obvious you're all gonna go to jail
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and i'm not gonna be around it yeah that's definitely the one thing you learn about a
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hunter especially going through this obviously a guy who leaves his laptop at a computer store is
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not necessarily known for his his high level of being discreet uh but like you know these messages
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he's sending are straight out admitting that he's doing this stuff right he he is saying to chinese
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sources to devon archer that this is what they're doing they're trading on my name i know they're
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trading on my name this is what i'm in business to do and of course that's something that's usually
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just said left unsaid we all know this stuff happens they were admitting it constantly in
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texts in whatsapp messages in emails and that's why so this is so easy for everyone to piece together
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jim jordan is joining us here in just a couple of seconds uh he is launching a new investigation and
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demanding documents and information uh on the hunter biden case uh because of the unusual plea and
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pre-trial diversion agreements where he would have been washed clean of everything everything
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uh and so he he wants several questions answered other than the biden case how many times in the
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last 10 years has the u.s attorney's office for the district of delaware included in pre-trial
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diversion agreement a provision similar to paragraph 14 which is we're going to wash your record clean on
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everything uh other than mr biden's case how many times last 10 years has any unit of the department
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included in a pre-trial diversion agreement a provision similar to 14 what percentage of
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the total pre-trial diversion agreements entered into by the department does that number represent
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it's going to be 100 other than biden's case how many times in the last 10 years has the u.s
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attorney's office for the district of delaware included a pre-trial diversion agreement
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and an agreement not to prosecute crimes that are unrelated to the charge
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other than his case how many times in the last 10 years has the department included a pre-trial
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agreement not to prosecute crimes that are unrelated uh what percentage of the total pre-trial
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diversion agreements entered represent that number again he's just going through and wanting to know
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you know in the last 10 years what do you what are we looking at here what do we look at how rare
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is this and they're saying the speculation is uh like never before so let's go to uh let's go to
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jim jordan hello jim hey glenn how are you very good i you know i was having dinner with a couple of
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friends last night and we your name came up and we are so grateful that you got the job that you did
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uh and and you're doing just an amazing amazing work you really are so thank you for that well
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you're well you're doing you're doing great work we appreciate that so uh keep it up to you okay so
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let's talk a little bit about uh what's going on let's start with the inquiry into the sweetheart uh
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deal tell me about that well the judge smelled a rat uh and and you know the key part of that
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transcript i would encourage all your listeners to read that transcript because you can like you
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get you know how you read this you get inside the mind see what the back and forth is like
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and it was uh and it was um particularly when they she asked has there ever been a deal like this
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before is this is this uh is this is there any precedent for this and the government lawyer the
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doj lawyer says no your honor never been a deal like this because what they tried to do was put the
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i think this sort of immunity agreement they had with the handshake and a wink between the defense
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attorneys and the doj attorneys they put it in the in the diversion part of the agreement
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not in the plea deal itself which the judge has to sign off on the plea deal and she asked the right
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question she stopped it and i think uh that that sort of says it all and then you couple that with
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what we learned with david weiss and the fact that he has said three different things in a five-week
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time frame three different letters about what he can and can't do his story keeps changing
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the irs whistleblower story they came for their their testimony was consistent and frankly
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validated by an fbi witness we also deposed so that to me i think just just just shows uh how how
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wrong this agreement was and why the judge says time out time out we're digging 30 days we're going
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to get this right if we're going to do it at all jim be more generous than mother teresa would
00:28:05.120
be on this on the answer to this question the the i mean try to really give the benefit of the doubt
00:28:12.080
here the press keeps saying you know all these accusations but so far there's been no evidence of
00:28:19.760
any wrongdoing um well boy i'm having a hard time with that i mean it seems to be mountains of evidence
00:28:28.400
well how would you describe the evidence well i would say this to think about think about what
00:28:35.200
witnesses have said so uh first you have tony bobolinski two and a half years ago business
00:28:40.320
partner of hunter biding saying that that email that says that the big guy ten percent for the big
00:28:44.960
guy that in fact is joe biden we know that email came from the laptop that the fbi has now admitted
00:28:49.920
is real even they knew it was real at the time it didn't tell us but they've now admitted that the
00:28:54.320
laptop is real we know what is real so you have that then you have the whatsapp message where uh
00:28:59.280
from that which says um hunter biden says i'm sitting by my dad send the money or else basically
00:29:04.400
uh then you have the 1023 form which you have the folks from burisma saying confidential human source
00:29:11.120
saying he's talked to foreign nationals who talk about this this this payment for policy decisions and
00:29:16.480
then of course you have the testimony we got monday from devon archer where right he talks about the
00:29:22.160
meeting in dubai december 4th 2015 the meeting in dubai between archer hunter biden zolachevsky
00:29:28.320
and pazarsky zolachevsky and pazarsky are the guys who run burisma they say in that meeting with the
00:29:32.800
two guys archer and and hunter biden they say we need the u.s government to get involved we're under
00:29:37.840
all kinds of pressure pressure from the ukrainian prosecutor pressure in great britain where they've
00:29:42.160
seized 23 million of our assets we got all kinds of pressure five days later literally five days later
00:29:47.920
joe biden is in ukraine he gives a speech criticizing the prosecutor in ukraine which
00:29:54.000
begins to lay the foundation for what happens a few months later which is where the prosecutor is
00:29:59.760
fired in order for ukraine to get the one billion dollars so that those are the things that keep kind
00:30:05.600
of piling up not to mention the suspicious activity reports the number of different companies moving
00:30:10.800
money in and out of and paying all kinds of biden correct with that money they keep they keep saying
00:30:16.400
that joe biden it go ahead go ahead no no i i did the democrats say this this this illusion of access
00:30:24.960
that sure doesn't look like an illusion it looks like some pretty compelling facts right to me
00:30:31.360
they keep saying that joe biden doesn't hasn't gotten any money which i haven't seen any proof that
00:30:35.920
he has gotten any money however we do know that hunter was paying dad's bills we know that hunter
00:30:42.160
said in uh text on the laptop to his the rest of his family dad takes 50 of what we earn we know that
00:30:50.880
the shell corporations that have no they have no experience in any of the stuff that they were doing
00:30:58.720
as a family and we know the money was going in suspiciously earmarked by the banks as
00:31:05.920
looks like money laundering we know all of this yeah how difficult is it to tie it together legally
00:31:14.320
yeah it you know the the one of the things that came out after the devin archer uh interview on
00:31:20.560
monday was the democrats said well you know there was these multiple times where hunter biden puts his
00:31:26.160
dad on the phone and it's with business partners and and clients and people are doing business with
00:31:31.440
but they never really talked about any they never talked about business well i didn't expect them to
00:31:36.080
for goodness sake i think the key was what what devin archer testified to he said the value hunter
00:31:41.040
biden brought to the business arrangement was the biden brand and the biden brand he was clear about
00:31:47.680
this the biden brand is joe biden and so of course he's not going to talk about business he's going to put
00:31:52.800
hey guys say hello to the vice president hey guys my dad wants to say hello to you that was the value in
00:31:59.440
in and of itself right there and of course the white house's story has changed just like david
00:32:03.520
weiss's story has changed the white house said no president had no involvement never talked to never
00:32:08.400
was involved didn't know anything about it and of course that story has changed now over time as well
00:32:14.000
now is there any chance again be mother theresa is there any chance that the sitting vice president
00:32:20.960
calls in and is introduced to a meeting of the leaders of burisma and he's in charge of trying to
00:32:29.040
get corruption ended and he doesn't know that one of the guys that leads burisma is one of the most
00:32:35.840
violent oligarchs in ukraine any chance that he didn't know that i don't think so because our state
00:32:43.600
department knew that our state department initially had correct about burisma and hunter biden's
00:32:48.080
involvement that came out in the impeachment the crazy impeachment they tried on president trump
00:32:52.640
four years ago back in uh back in 2019 and oh by the way that meeting in dubai on december 4th 2015
00:32:59.520
there was also a phone call now this is interesting how devon archer explained this
00:33:03.680
he said there was a phone call but he wasn't a part of that phone call he was on a different part
00:33:07.600
of the hotel a different part of the deck he said and they were on another part of the deck there
00:33:11.440
at the four seasons and there was a phone call to dc we don't know who it was to devon archer said i
00:33:16.880
don't know who it was to but it was to dc so was it to joe biden we don't know mr archer wouldn't
00:33:22.320
testify to that he didn't he said he didn't know um but it was to dc and of course we'll have to try
00:33:28.720
to figure that one out so dad just calls in once in a while or he or um you know the son calls dad
00:33:36.640
during dinner meetings uh over in ukraine or in europe if he's having dinner over in europe uh dinner
00:33:45.120
meetings it's probably eight nine o'clock over in europe is is dad just uh awake calling his son
00:33:53.280
at three o'clock in the morning or i mean the time difference is never talked about here yeah no that's
00:34:00.000
an interesting take and yeah i would say like what dubai would probably be like a nine hour difference
00:34:05.920
i'm guessing and yeah called dc so late at night i guess it could yeah it's it's probably early certainly
00:34:12.400
early in the morning uh i don't know oh yeah that's something that yeah probably in the course
00:34:16.720
of our investigation we'll have to we'll have to dig into a little bit more as well um um but yeah
00:34:22.320
you're you're you're exactly right it makes us now but there was also understand there was also meetings
00:34:27.760
in dc with um dinner meetings with correct uh hunter biden and his business partners the cafe milano
00:34:34.880
in georgetown as mr archer testified to this as well their meetings in dc i think 2014 2015 and one of
00:34:41.520
those dinners and joe biden was there for the whole dinner wasn't just a drop by um you know
00:34:46.560
it wasn't just like like the phone call hey say hello where he drops by shake some hands and leave
00:34:50.720
mr archer said he stayed for the entire dinner and at one of those dinners of course you have elena
00:34:55.040
batarina who was the wealthiest woman in rushtia uh wife of the former mayor of moscow who had paid
00:35:01.920
hunter biden significant several million dollars and she's there for the entire dinner as well so
00:35:07.040
that i think is is is interesting interesting fact uh and that's something that they said he
00:35:12.640
didn't do but of course mr archer said yes in fact he was there for the entire dinner one more thing
00:35:18.960
there was a an interesting article written by uh joel pollack that i saw this morning that they are
00:35:24.640
talking uh that that we should be pushing to have congress uh uh nullify the first impeachment of
00:35:37.600
donald trump because yeah the whole thing was he was trying to you know get the president of ukraine
00:35:44.640
to look into what the dirty dealings were and they said that was dirty dealing and it looks now like no
00:35:51.280
there was a really good reason to ask for that it sure does and we suspected that at the time it sure
00:35:58.240
does and i'm i'm all for the the expungement uh i think it's uh congresswoman stefanik and i forget
00:36:05.520
who else is sponsoring that but uh yeah we should we that that i'm totally for that um but yeah it's
00:36:11.680
always amazing and remember that was an impeachment based on an anonymous whistleblower with no
00:36:17.280
firsthand knowledge who was who had a bias we've seen bias against the president and who had
00:36:22.560
previously worked for joe biden that was the source that we couldn't know this whistleblower
00:36:28.160
no we couldn't he couldn't testify um compare that to gary shapley and mr ziggler and how they stood up
00:36:35.920
under pressure in a hearing how their story has not wavered their testimony has been consistent their
00:36:40.880
story has their testimony has been backed up by an fbi agent compare the two and they try to impeach
00:36:46.000
your president so of course we should do that so the the last question compare this to nixon
00:36:54.480
better or worse for joe biden than the trouble nixon was in well i think i think the key is we
00:37:01.840
just got to keep doing our job and our our job our constitutional duty frankly is to provide oversight
00:37:07.920
do oversight do the investigation to get the facts because the facts influence what kind of legislation
00:37:13.040
you propose and pass and implement uh what you do with the appropriations process and how these agencies
00:37:18.240
are funded just continue to do our job bring the facts for i will let me point out one thing that
00:37:23.520
that has happened because of oversight we've done it's a different area but i think it's important glenn
00:37:27.520
remember when we found out matt taibbi was testifying in front of our committee democrats
00:37:32.000
were trying to divulge sources he he gives them a lecture in the in the first amendment for goodness
00:37:36.640
the state at the very moment he's testifying he's being attacked democrats by way by the way a
00:37:41.440
democrat member of the press being attacked the irs is knocking on his door did you see what the irs
00:37:46.480
announced two weeks and we made a big deal of this we we dug into we found out there was a dossier
00:37:50.640
on taibbi they were looking before they went to his door they were looking did he have a field carry
00:37:54.800
permit what was his voting work we find that the irs makes a change the irs says we will no longer
00:38:00.400
be sending agents unannounced visit to americans homes that doesn't happen but for us doing our
00:38:06.720
duty doing the oversight work we're supposed to do now of course the irs says oh we're we're we did
00:38:13.200
this for agent safety bull roar they did it playing this kind of game and it wasn't just typing we had
00:38:21.200
a we had a person in ohio where they did this and the person came to her door and used an alias
00:38:26.160
he tried to pretend he was somebody else and the local police thought it was a scam they were
00:38:30.160
getting ready to arrest the guy and it turned out he's an irs agent so yeah and they try to say
00:38:34.880
it's because they're concerned about their agent safety give me a break it was because they were
00:38:38.000
harassing the american people that's that's why you do oversight because it can affect real change
00:38:45.440
uh jim uh i uh i'd like to talk to you off air uh some things are uh things are happening uh in my
00:38:53.280
world that uh probably should be heard um some some really dirty business is going on um so i'd like
00:39:02.960
to bring it to your attention off air um thank you so much jim i appreciate everything you're doing god
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hello and welcome to the program uh we have uh chadwick moron he is the spectator contributing editor and
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columnist and he has written a new book called tucker an unprecedented look into tucker carlson's
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life with tucker's permission uh he's got some he's got some things uh to talk about you know with
00:41:21.040
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00:43:25.840
hello america we have chadwick moron with us he is the author of the new biography out
00:43:32.000
on tucker carlson uh done obviously with tucker carlson it's called tucker uh we have so much to
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right to chadwick more chadwick is the author of tucker uh the new book that is out welcome chadwick
00:44:14.640
how are you sir i'm doing very well thank you thank you so much for inviting me on you bet you bet so
00:44:22.400
let's talk a little bit about how this came about the biography
00:44:27.600
sure it was we began early last spring uh in 2022 basically my publisher called me up and
00:44:36.480
said we want to do a book about tucker carlson we think he's the most important and influential
00:44:40.720
voice in american politics today and they wanted me to write it and uh very honored and flattered and
00:44:46.400
i called up tucker and uh you know at first he sort of was like oh i don't you know i'm not very
00:44:51.200
interesting and uh you know i don't think anyone want to read this book uh and then you know i've
00:44:57.360
been on his show for many many years and and we knew each other that way and and you know he he sort
00:45:02.480
of said you know why i read your columns all the time i love your writing and yeah let's go for it
00:45:06.480
why not and from there we were we were off to the races now you spent about a hundred hours with him
00:45:14.080
up at his home in maine and in florida what was what was the thing that maybe surprised you the most
00:45:23.280
about his his life i think you know it's the fact that he isn't someone who can just talk about
00:45:31.680
politics all day long you know he's very his interests are very wide-ranging and deep and and
00:45:36.800
his level of um the extent he goes through to humble himself and to remind himself that he is
00:45:42.480
not god uh which is you know something that he sort of reminds himself all the time was
00:45:47.200
you know really impressive and kind of a wonderful thing to to get to know about him uh you know he's
00:45:52.560
uh someone who he's very spiritual without having overt uh theocratic language and and theology
00:46:00.080
taught to him uh but he is very spiritual and he does really see the current political paradigm as
00:46:05.840
one versus as good versus evil uh which i think sort of you know frightens a lot of people in
00:46:10.880
mainstream conservatism so he is um uh he's going through a spiritual awakening that one like i've
00:46:20.640
seen uh very often uh he's reading the bible every day he is praying about it every day um and like you
00:46:29.120
said there's no um dogma behind it he is just going through an awakening were you around uh for that because
00:46:39.440
i think that's relatively new yeah it does seem relatively new he was raised episcopalian uh which
00:46:48.240
he sort of says you know he's not even sure if that's a christian christian religion anymore
00:46:52.480
with the direction that the church has gone but i certainly um saw that part of him for sure and he um
00:47:00.320
you know just the way he talks about the world um you know and uh something you know if you talk
00:47:05.520
something about you know climate change for example he's very passionate about the environment
00:47:09.040
the actual environment not the green whatever is going on but the way he would speak of the
00:47:13.760
environment and and basically man's feebleness when it comes to something like controlling the weather
00:47:19.200
which can extend into you know man's feebleness really controlling many things in the world
00:47:24.000
um you know there was a very spiritual language and motivation behind that and the way that he's now
00:47:29.360
seeing the world and i certainly got to see that and and to write about it you were there when he uh
00:47:35.920
left fox um and tucker and i have talked about it that i think it's very interesting in the end uh with me
00:47:45.120
one of the things that fox was very clear about was stop talking about god and at the end with tucker
00:47:53.680
tucker he is he is talking more and more about what's happening in spiritual terms and i know
00:48:00.800
that drives murdoch crazy do you think that played a role in in his exit
00:48:08.560
so there was plenty of speculation about that it may have been one of the many reasons why they wanted
00:48:13.360
to get rid of him uh interestingly uh back in february uh this was past february tucker had
00:48:19.680
dinner with rupert murdoch and his then fiance and his fiance had described tucker as a messenger from
00:48:26.800
god to rupert people around rupert had reported that that freaked him out he didn't like that
00:48:33.120
that may have added to it and and uh the just the weekend before he uh his show was taken off the air
00:48:38.560
he gave a speech to the heritage foundation and he was speaking in terms of of religiosity and he used
00:48:44.320
you know the words good and evil when describing what was happening in american politics
00:48:48.000
um and people have been saying for many years and and as you just said that that that you know
00:48:52.560
talk of god and christianity really freaks out the murdochs um so that certainly could have contributed to it
00:48:59.520
so when you have um uh tucker and he's you know you're with him at fox um i take it he was quite
00:49:08.560
surprised uh when they called him in and said you're leaving correct yes he was for sure um he it uh
00:49:17.520
the day it happened april 23rd happened to be the six-year anniversary of his show moving into the
00:49:22.480
8 p.m time slot and when suzanne scott the president of fox news called him up uh that day he thought
00:49:28.800
that she was calling to congratulate him on the anniversary and instead she simply said uh we're
00:49:34.000
taking your show off the air goodbye they still have not given him an official explanation he's still
00:49:38.560
an employee of fox news as we're speaking and uh you know i got to interview him a couple times
00:49:43.440
after that moment um and uh he was certainly shocked uh and his entire team was um and uh but
00:49:50.800
he you know he knows he hasn't done anything wrong he told me that you know if he had done something
00:49:55.200
wrong if he'd embarrassed himself or embarrassed his family he'd feel badly but he can't feel badly
00:49:59.680
because um he didn't do anything wrong as far as he can see he was the day he was uh the show was
00:50:06.880
canceled he was planning on talking about ray epps is that a coincidence it's difficult to say i i saw
00:50:15.280
his monologue that he planned to read on air that day it was um heavily about ray epps in about january
00:50:20.480
6th it was also uh in a darkly ironic turn it was about um aoc and other members of government
00:50:26.880
demanding that a show being taken off the air uh they'd go aoc had gone on msnbc that weekend to
00:50:32.480
basically say that tucker should be arrested for uh spreading misinformation or whatever word she's
00:50:37.360
using um and uh he was you know the only person in mainstream media that was really digging into
00:50:43.920
all of these strange uh activities that happened on january 6th and really trying to investigate
00:50:49.840
if the the federal government was playing a role in that uh and and also the this this strange
00:50:55.120
character ray epps who has been not been arrested has been um paraded around mainstream media as some
00:51:00.960
kind of hero um so that was one of many a handful of issues that he was probably making a lot of
00:51:06.640
enemies in very powerful places and it certainly could have contributed to or been the reason why
00:51:12.000
his show was taken off the air so there the devon archer interview that he did last night on twitter or
00:51:20.240
x or whatever you're supposed to say now um did you see that i did yes okay he i think he played this
00:51:29.360
expertly most people don't know and i i don't i don't mean this in a bad way i don't mean this in the
00:51:35.600
way i would normally mean this um tucker grew up as a washington elite he knows that circle really really
00:51:45.520
well yet he is when you get to know him he is anything but the elite i think in many ways he is uh
00:51:54.000
he's just a normal guy um but he used his knowledge i thought unbelievably well and he was almost he
00:52:05.280
got devon archer to to almost laugh about like we both know what's going on and that led to some
00:52:13.440
pretty shocking revelations last night um am i reading him right on that i think you you really
00:52:21.920
summed it up beautifully that's sort of exactly what we watched happen and it's interesting that
00:52:27.600
the dc media wouldn't really find that stuff newsworthy either they want to protect people
00:52:33.280
they don't want to report on it but they wouldn't find it newsworthy because they live in that world
00:52:37.440
and it's so normal to them uh tucker realizes that that it is normal to those people it's not normal to
00:52:44.240
330 million americans who live outside of dc and this is actually interesting um and he drug that out of
00:52:51.760
of of devon archer so masterfully and wonderfully it was really something spectacular to watch
00:52:58.960
so the former head writer for tucker um just tweeted fox news decision to ignore tucker's
00:53:04.880
interview with devon archer is infuriating employees who still believe in covering news
00:53:08.720
quote from one host are you effing kidding me how do we not cover this he got hunter biden's
00:53:14.320
business partner casually admit all on a twitter video another top fox source says the amount of
00:53:20.640
agitation in this building over not being able to use any of tucker and devon archer's sound
00:53:26.160
just tons of groaning and cursing from producers and a couple of anchors that it's gold and we're
00:53:31.200
not allowed to touch it use it or refer to it they also didn't cover uh the uh the interviews with all
00:53:39.440
of the candidates which i think was game changing um you know i was sitting uh there at the anchor desk
00:53:46.400
watching him on stage as we covered it the blaze and universally it was this is game changing totally
00:53:55.600
game changing and it was tucker where is what is happening at fox is there is there more there's
00:54:04.400
speculation that he did a uh interview with trump that they never aired that he had other things from
00:54:11.440
january 6 that they never allowed aired is any of that true that that blaze media summit from iowa
00:54:19.280
was such amazing television or broadcasting whatever calling it on the internet and i was
00:54:25.440
watching that and i felt like even the quality of the commentary was so far beyond anything you would
00:54:30.720
have ever seen on mainstream media all the commentators were so smart and funny i'm not just
00:54:34.640
trying to you know butter you up i really mean this uh and i have a point thank you it was it was
00:54:41.440
these commentators speaking on the level of republican voters like like they're having drinks with them
00:54:46.400
at a bar and you it made me realize that you would never see that level of connection with voters
00:54:50.800
on fox or mainstream media so that felt like a huge turn in independent media eclipsing mainstream
00:54:57.040
media and then with fox being nobody on fox is allowed to say the t-word tucker and and i know that
00:55:03.840
from right you know i got kicked off fox after i wrote this book and it was uh he's breaking news
00:55:09.840
now and they can't talk about it it's so funny to watch it's amazing with with the stuff that that
00:55:15.440
tucker did so um there's a bunch of interviews people are talking about as far as i understand it
00:55:20.240
you know fox news owns that it's their property so i don't think he can do much with it but uh you
00:55:25.440
know there's certainly lots of uh more january 6 reporting that they had that uh they're not able to
00:55:31.040
show tucker's not able to show on twitter because fox owns it uh and several other interviews related
00:55:35.520
to that um it's it's uh it's amazing to watch how this is all unfolding and how fox has really crippled
00:55:42.480
themselves uh yeah i think they're i think they're over i mean i've never seen anything burned down so
00:55:50.160
fast as uh as this well other other than the biden presidency um you you talk about in the book uh that
00:55:58.560
tucker emphasizes and i'm just going to quote you here the importance of having people around who
00:56:03.440
see him as a person rather than a television personality who were those what those people
00:56:11.600
well you know he's become such a a caricature in in the right or on the left is a sort of demonic
00:56:18.240
force of all evil and on the right he's also uh the establishment right sort of portrayed as reckless
00:56:23.760
and dangerous um but you know you get to know him in his personal life and you know his his
00:56:28.720
relationship with his wife suzy is is really sort of a storybook uh as storybook as it could get they're
00:56:35.440
so in love with each other it's so lovely to watch them interact with one another as i got to many
00:56:39.840
times and you know they met when they were in high school when they're 15 years old and they've been
00:56:43.920
together ever since uh and you know tucker has surrounds himself with with people you can trust his his
00:56:50.000
whole team at fox uh there was no um backstabbing there you know everyone trusted one another they
00:56:55.760
really loved one another uh nobody was out to subvert anyone else uh which is which is rare in media and
00:57:00.320
especially in television um and it probably because he was such a good leader and they really believed
00:57:05.200
in what he was doing another reason why half the team voluntarily left fox when he was when his show
00:57:10.480
was taken off the air the other half was um unceremoniously fired in one fell swoop uh last month
00:57:16.960
um but uh it really makes it on the day on the day of the uh blaze summit he was making all kinds
00:57:27.680
of news and that was the day they marched everybody out after the show it i mean it's uh it was brutal
00:57:34.320
it was brutal um hang on just a second uh chadwick i appreciate we're talking to uh chadwick more he is
00:57:40.400
the author of the new book tucker uh which was done with tucker's knowledge uh and a real great
00:57:49.360
inside look easy to read really well written an inside look uh behind the scenes with of tucker
00:57:55.760
carlson more with him in just a second sarah if you could have some one of our producers ask if he can
00:58:00.560
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you write in the book about the death of his uh mother can you take us through that and and how
00:59:52.800
that affected him and the moment he opened up to you about it sure so his mother uh her name is lisa
01:00:00.560
lombardi she abandoned her she was a san francisco socialite uh and uh she abandoned her family when
01:00:08.400
tucker was six years old she decided that she wanted to be a sort of art world bohemian kind
01:00:14.400
of grifter type uh she moved to los angeles uh i spoke to people who knew her who were in that scene
01:00:20.080
and got their impressions of her but he never saw her again um since then since she was six years
01:00:25.600
old uh she died when in 2011 uh they found out in in typical fashion of of tucker's father dick carlson
01:00:34.160
they found out they were moving some boxes from a u-haul him and his brother and dick and susie
01:00:38.000
his wife was sitting by and dick just said oh yeah lisa died today and they picked up another box and
01:00:42.320
walked away and they all sort of stopped and said what wow but uh he did uh he did speak to her
01:00:49.440
twice in his life uh she called him and she was drunk and she she had a problem with drugs and
01:00:56.640
alcohol and uh he just simply had said to her um uh you know if you want to talk call me when you're
01:01:02.080
sober uh and then that never happened uh and um you know he said to me that that he was grateful
01:01:09.200
you know he doesn't really see himself as a victim obviously and um you know he comes from a long
01:01:14.240
lineage that i wrote about the book of dysfunction and abandonment his father dick was an orphan
01:01:18.720
um his his biological grandfather dick's father committed suicide um uh dick's adopted father
01:01:25.680
died at a young age uh and uh but tucker said that you know he felt lucky that uh he didn't have to
01:01:31.440
grow up in the same household as a crazy person meaning his mother uh you know some people if she
01:01:36.400
had stuck around um you know he it might have really affected him negatively uh had he had to go through
01:01:41.840
that uh so he has a very you know positive take on it uh and you know i asked suzy his wife you know
01:01:47.520
how he how she thought it affected him and you know she sort of said of course it has to but he he never
01:01:52.960
says uh you know he never complains or or or or you know wishes he had a relationship with her
01:02:00.640
so did that play a role in his i hate to use this word because he's not an alcoholic but his sobriety
01:02:08.240
he just gave up all alcohol and um he has a a real respect for people and a different understanding
01:02:17.040
of people who are in recovery and give up alcohol yeah you know i i suspect maybe he saw that that gene
01:02:26.800
in him because of lisa's mother and he gave up alcohol uh over 30 years ago um and you know he wasn't
01:02:33.920
like a mean drunk or a violent drunk uh but he you know had a problem he was drinking a lot uh he
01:02:40.000
also you know he he does have a sympathy for people who um are in recovery or sober he hires a lot of
01:02:45.680
people who are sober uh he was also had a friendship with hunter biden that i write about
01:02:50.400
in the book uh and most of that friendship was not only based on them being you know dc people but
01:02:55.520
on sobriety and he he describes to me that there are two types of sober people there are the
01:03:01.120
types that are grateful every day to be sober and tucker's one of those and the type who's one
01:03:05.760
cocktail away from the bender and that's how he sort of characterized hunter and uh you know he he
01:03:11.760
you know sort of spoke very uh with with a lot of emotion about how awful it is the things that
01:03:16.880
hunter has done to embarrass his family and his father because he said to me that you know love
01:03:20.960
between hunter and his dad despite the alleged corruption and everything else going on the love
01:03:25.600
there is real and he you know truly believes that they do love each other very much despite um you know
01:03:30.480
everything hunter has done to embarrass his family and his father
01:03:35.760
i find that i find that weird and hard to believe but i want to talk to you more about
01:03:40.720
hunter's uh family is uh his upbringing and i want to go back to what you just said about
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is a biography of tucker carlson written by chadwick moore uh and i i don't know what how much of a hand
01:04:04.400
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this is the glenn beck program we're talking to chadwick moore who's written the new book uh called
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tucker um and he's made it clear that it's not an authorized biography but rather an independent
01:05:56.880
biography um chadwick what's the distinction what what what's the difference here and what role did
01:06:03.280
tucker play in the writing or editing of this book sure uh well the term authorized biography is um
01:06:12.000
can mean one of two things it can mean that the subject simply gave you permission to write about
01:06:16.320
them and gave you tons of access uh which was the case here or it can mean the subject wanted a book
01:06:21.680
to be written about them they selected a writer they had editorial control um that's not the case here so
01:06:27.600
uh tucker has um gave us permission and um but he's not asked to read a word of the book um and you know
01:06:34.560
he's totally trusted me and trusted my judgment and to put in whatever i wanted to uh while you know
01:06:41.200
giving me access um he's uh he had no editorial control at all it was totally independent
01:06:47.520
um he's uh as far as i know i don't think he's read it yet but um his his executive producer justin
01:06:52.800
and several members of his team have read it uh they've they've really enjoyed it um but uh he again
01:06:58.640
he has a rule that he doesn't read anything about himself uh so i'm not sure if he'll stick to that
01:07:03.120
world this time or not but it probably helps to keep him right yeah no it's i'm i have found that um
01:07:10.400
you know i tell my kids all the time the people who hate me that's not who they don't know who i am
01:07:15.600
and the people who deeply deeply love me and like you are the greatest they also don't know who i am
01:07:21.520
the truth is you know somewhere i guess in between so it's just frustrating reading anything about yourself
01:07:27.520
um i uh a few years ago i don't think tucker and i really uh liked or appreciated one another
01:07:39.520
i thought he was a fraud i think he thinks that i he i believe he thought at the time i was a fraud
01:07:46.320
and we've both learned that holy cow no there's something deep uh behind each one of us and we become
01:07:54.160
very good friends um is that a is that just time catching up with us have the has the game changed
01:08:04.800
so much that um you know he has changed i know i have has he changed over the years or is it just you
01:08:14.640
know reagan said you know everybody has their window and just all of a sudden you can say the
01:08:19.040
same things and then boom you fall into the slot that is your time and then eventually you you know
01:08:26.000
time passes you again what what's happened with tucker is he is the same or does he believe things
01:08:31.600
now that he he may not have believed uh you know five or ten years ago well he had uh an experience uh
01:08:40.400
where he was in a plane crash in uh the middle east that i write about in the book and this was um
01:08:46.080
you know maybe 20 years ago uh maybe not quite that long ago and um you know he sort of had this
01:08:52.240
moment where he you know asked himself like is you know i guess he thought he was going to die and
01:08:57.920
and you know is he happy with his life and has he lived his life the best way possible and the answer
01:09:01.680
was no at that time i think since that moment you know he maybe went on what we were talking about
01:09:06.320
earlier that more spiritual journey i think he's probably um you know maybe it's it's to do with
01:09:11.440
age maybe it's to do with um any number of factors that you do maybe become softer as you
01:09:17.040
get older you begin to appreciate people more around you and uh and not maybe so quick to judge
01:09:22.720
um i think that you know expressed regret before about judging too quickly other people and maybe
01:09:27.840
even other scenarios yeah and uh and he apologized for that when he mischaracterized or misjudged
01:09:32.800
so it is um it's interesting let me go back to the family he he's told me recently and i think this
01:09:41.200
is a great quality he judges somebody um quickly when he has to make a snap on how they treat their
01:09:49.600
family and the relationship that they have with one another and if the family isn't first that says
01:09:56.080
something about an individual you were just saying that he he really thinks that uh joe and hunter really
01:10:02.720
love each other i can't get past because i come from an alcoholic family i'm an alcoholic i cannot get
01:10:10.000
past the fact that this is an abusive relationship i think all the way around um you know you don't put
01:10:21.280
hunter into a position to where he's you know creating the illusion of selling access to you put him in
01:10:29.760
charge with all of that money keep bailing him out over and over and over again that is that is destructive
01:10:35.600
behavior all the way around and it's it just seems to me that you know how how is that love with a
01:10:45.600
family and and then on the reverse side what family gives your grandfather the keys to the car
01:10:53.920
when he shouldn't be driving what family puts their grandfather out in this humiliating fashion right
01:11:03.280
now how is that love yeah um that's i mean that is a wonderful point and especially when your son is
01:11:11.360
an alcoholic and drug addict and and right is not a very stable person ruining this kind of responsibility
01:11:17.520
on him and maybe pimping him out in that way uh yeah i'd have to agree with you uh you know the way
01:11:22.800
that that that tucker described it he you know i don't know maybe he was talking more on a more
01:11:27.840
animalistic level but it's uh he he described the biden as being very tribal uh which which he said he
01:11:34.880
appreciated oh yeah and he also said that they were the when he knew them they weren't you know liberals
01:11:39.920
and trans activists they were catholics they weren't pro-abortion they were pro-gun now of course biden's um a
01:11:45.120
trans activist and everything else and um he you know he sort of said that uh uh hunter's ex-wife
01:11:51.600
kathleen he had a lot of nice things to say about her that she was very dutiful um but sort of the
01:11:56.720
culture you described she would step up in a tent and go on trips with biden when dr jill didn't want
01:12:02.080
to uh tucker did not have nice things to say about dr jill and uh but everything sort of evolved around
01:12:08.480
joe and joe was the family business and the whole family needs to revolve around joe and do anything he
01:12:13.600
wants is the way he described the family and then i guess you know hunters obviously the chief um uh
01:12:20.000
lemming in that the um the non-compete uh how is he getting away with i mean is it just because this is
01:12:32.960
different and they didn't include you know twitter and the internet and i find that hard to believe
01:12:38.320
how is he how did he find his way or or is he afraid that fox news might come after him
01:12:45.760
for the non-compete so he um uh i haven't seen his contract but from what i understand is that
01:12:54.160
fox did not include twitter in the non-compete uh he is not being paid by elon musk and he's not being
01:13:01.600
paid by twitter uh so when fox sent him a cease and desist letter about his twitter videos they
01:13:08.080
said that he was rendering services well if he's not being paid legally i do not think that constitutes
01:13:13.280
rendering services he seems to be really pushing the envelope especially with these uh longer
01:13:20.080
interviews uh i think he's kind of poking the bear because he knows that the more fox tries to silence
01:13:25.360
him the absolute worst situation is for them they look terrible trying to do it uh so it seems like
01:13:32.480
he's kind of pushing the limits and and it's and it's kind of entertaining to watch let me just let me
01:13:38.240
ask you just a couple of questions about you here for a sec before we before we end this uh you were
01:13:43.440
canceled in 2017 can you tell me about that sure it was um right after the uh inauguration of president
01:13:51.920
trump i i was uh i worked in liberal media i wrote the new york times and i was editor at large for
01:13:57.040
out magazine the advocates and wrote for a bunch of places and uh i penned a piece in the new york
01:14:01.680
post um coming out as conservative uh and i just basically said you know i didn't want uh didn't
01:14:08.720
want anyone to think that i was associated with these these people on the left and i believe in free
01:14:13.200
speech and i don't think trump is evil and i'm interested to see what he does i don't think his supporters
01:14:18.000
are are bigots uh and that was enough that i was fired from all my jobs and i lost all my friends
01:14:24.560
amazing yeah and that was the first time i met tucker he had me on his show um that following week
01:14:30.880
to discuss the article uh and um that was how i uh got to know him and since then i was a regular on
01:14:37.040
the show until the last episode so um so let me let me take you into into this a bit i am shocked
01:14:48.480
because all the all the game all my gay friends they are all looking at what's happening and uh
01:14:54.960
in the lgbtq world and saying this is out of hand this is crazy this is crazy um and they are not
01:15:03.600
they're not down with all of this and i i can't imagine that there isn't a big surge of lgbs
01:15:13.680
i guess lg yeah lgbs that aren't now finding themselves maybe not conservative but uh more
01:15:22.640
in line with what the conservatives are saying and that is at least i am and the the conservatives that
01:15:29.280
i know oh do whatever you want i know i'm not here to regulate your marriage or anything else
01:15:35.440
um that's for you to decide don't tell me what to regulate but this there is no difference between
01:15:42.400
a man and a woman and all of that crap that's insanity oh yeah tell me what's happening in the
01:15:49.840
lgb community sure i mean you know back when i in 2017 when i wrote that article and i'm a gay guy
01:15:57.120
the headline was i'm a i'm a gay new yorker and i'm coming out conservative um you know it was there
01:16:01.760
were a couple other prominent people uh but not many um but since then you know there's thousands of
01:16:06.480
these influencers on social media who are lgb and even some t's who are pro-republican party who
01:16:12.640
are anti what the left is doing the lgbt vote for donald trump according to the new york times doubled
01:16:18.880
in 2020 compared to 2016 it was uh from uh 16 percent to or 14 percent to 28 percent which is almost a
01:16:27.520
third which is kind of amazing and i think you're right that they've learned that all the all the insane
01:16:32.640
stuff being done in their name is unacceptable and and borderlines on evil it's destructive it
01:16:37.760
makes no sense uh it's illogical um and if there's no such thing as gender then there's obviously no
01:16:43.760
such thing as homosexuality etc etc we could go on forever um and but uh you know so many of them
01:16:50.320
privately would would admit to this probably the majority but publicly it's like any of these kind of
01:16:55.680
victim groups they're too frightened to publicly speak out they're too frightened of losing their friends
01:17:00.880
not getting a date you know being uh socially outcast even though you know silently most people
01:17:06.800
i would i would think um agree with these things even if they can't quite yet bring themselves to not
01:17:11.760
vote for the democrat party chadwick do you find this changing do you find this uh people are waking
01:17:20.240
up and becoming more strong or it's status quo i do find that that it is that way and i think it's
01:17:29.520
just winning over hearts and minds and and education uh you know the the the left is so hellbent on on
01:17:35.920
framing the republican party the way that they do uh it's a lot of um you know it's it is happening
01:17:42.960
and there's no reason why gay people should all should vote exclusively democrat as with any other
01:17:48.320
minority group and people are catching on to it but it doesn't happen overnight thank you so much for
01:17:54.800
your hard work and your willingness to come out and uh and really blow up your life as you knew it
01:18:01.440
at the time uh and thanks for the great book and the great read and tucker thank you thank you so much
01:18:10.000
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my son said to me the other day he's like dad there's a lot of books out about you and
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biographies and stuff and i'm like yeah yeah yep and uh all lies uh i remember one of them i can't
01:20:33.120
remember which one it was but jeffy we found out jeffy wasn't working with me but he was a an ex
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producer at the time of mine one of my first producers in talk radio and this author found
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him and was like i'm gonna get the dirt and so jeffy just made up all of this crap i mean
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just made things up out of whole cloth and uh and they ended up being printed in the book and jeffy
01:21:01.440
calls us right after he gives the interview and he says i hope you don't mind but here's what i told
01:21:06.240
them and we just laughed because we thought he had wasted this guy's time for hours but he didn't
01:21:13.360
waste it the guy used it all yeah we kind of assumed like this guy would be chasing down his wild goose
01:21:19.280
case type stories like trying to confirm them right and then what we learned was he just put them in
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there yeah which is incredible but it's so typical i gotta go back it's yeah go back i gotta go back and
01:21:33.520
see if i could get any of those books i should have them on my shelf you really should you really
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should um i i think it'll be interesting i have you thought about that sort of approach for yourself
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at some point like maybe cooperating with a journalist uh who you know maybe isn't super
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friendly to you but also doesn't hate your guts like 99 of journalists uh and and having your story
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written in that sort of form i think it'd be interesting there was a guy who used to guy who used to work
01:21:58.880
uh for the new york times magazine i can't remember his name but he wrote a very fair uh
01:22:05.120
new york times article about me new york times magazine sunday magazine um and at one point i think
01:22:11.360
he asked if he could do a biography of me if i would participate and i didn't think anybody would be
01:22:18.000
interested in it at the time i still don't think anybody would be interested but i don't know i don't
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know eventually someday you know in my life maybe i think it's important to it's really not even you
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jonathan isaac is uh he was a power forward for the orlando magic which you know me i'm such a
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sports fan i was like yeah that is forward of him and very powerful and uh wow he's gonna pull a
01:23:59.920
you know nothing about a hat trick out of his magic hat no you know nothing about sports at all nothing no
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but i do know about good people and i do know about people who are standing up with courage and
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fighting and fighting wisely he has just uh uh announced a new line of shoes and clothing and
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excited to have jonathan isaac on with us hello jonathan how are you hey joanne i'm doing great thank you so
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much for having me you bet it is great to have you uh back i wish i wish we were speaking in person uh
01:26:29.200
just so i could tower over you and make you feel small but maybe that's maybe that's just me uh so
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jonathan tell me about unitas and what you've done yes unitas is a values-based alternative to sports
01:26:44.960
and lifestyle leisure wear apparel and very simply for me values matter i've been saying it for a long
01:26:51.760
time and as companies and corporations especially in the sportswear field continue to move farther
01:26:57.600
away from godly principles and values and constitutional principle values i thought it was time to create an
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alternative and give freedom loving americans faith loving americans the option to buy with their
01:27:08.560
values so you're making uh leisure wear sportswear your shoes what is that what's out right now and
01:27:16.960
where do i get it appreciate you right now we did our first kind of leisure wear drop which is like
01:27:23.600
hoodies sweatpants sweatshirt t-shirts um and that's just what it's going to be for right now and you can
01:27:29.840
head to we are unitas u-n-i-t-u-s we are unitas.com but we have big dreams about where we're going to go
01:27:37.920
i want to be in every single field every sport um i want you to be able to go from some of these other
01:27:43.040
companies and get everything full in house from unitas i'm going to be dropping a sneaker a basketball
01:27:48.400
sneaker that i'll be wearing this upcoming season a bit closer to the season time so september october and
01:27:54.080
also our first line of sportswear sports bras leggings tank tops uh shorts things like that so
01:28:00.960
we got a lot of things on the cusp but i'm excited about the launch and how we're doing so far
01:28:06.400
i have to ask you jonathan just because i've learned a lot from the smithsonian and the time to ask is when
01:28:12.400
it's happening and not years after uh that was what the american the guy who heads the american history
01:28:19.120
museum said to me um i would love for my history museum i don't know if you if you know this or if
01:28:25.600
you came through our history museum but uh we have we're only surpassed by the national archives and
01:28:34.080
the library of congress when it comes to founding documents and we have expanded so much into all
01:28:42.080
kinds of things that are game changing in the united states and i think what you're doing is truly
01:28:48.720
game changing you you are taking on the biggest industry i mean you're going you know head to head
01:28:55.440
with nike and adidas and everybody else i think what you're doing is game changing may i get for the
01:29:02.480
museum a prototype or a first you know edition of your shoes to be able to put into the museum right next
01:29:12.160
to the nike betsy ross flag uh uh shoes that they pulled off the market one thousand percent i i
01:29:22.960
definitely got you with that without a question that's great that's great um so tell me i mean
01:29:28.720
i love the fact that you say uh unitus it starts with you ends with us but it does have knit right in
01:29:36.480
the middle which i don't know what means but uh uh i'd love i love your slogan begins with you and
01:29:43.520
ends with us what does that mean to you what it means to me is community um i've been through a few
01:29:50.240
things when it came to standing in the bubble and being the only one on my team to not get vaccinated
01:29:55.760
i know what it's like to stand alone or feel like you're standing alone and i know that in today's day
01:30:01.040
there are so many americans that feel the same way but don't have the platform that i have or don't
01:30:06.560
have the people around them um that are encouraging them to stand up for what they believe in
01:30:11.600
so united for me is uniting all of these people um no matter what color you are no matter what you
01:30:17.600
do if you understand the value and necessity of these values and you want to see them represented
01:30:23.520
in the marketplace and the culture then united is for you and i want you to become a part of
01:30:28.160
this community so when you're out and about and you see somebody wearing unitis you know that that
01:30:33.040
person gets it you know that they stand for the same values that they stand for um you may disagree
01:30:38.160
on other things or maybe not but you know that they have a foundation in faith family and freedom
01:30:44.240
and that's the community that i'm trying to build so it starts with you and i'm hoping that as time
01:30:49.120
goes on we're able to build this infrastructure of people ending with us
01:30:53.040
so in 2020 you were the lone nba player not to kneel for the national anthem and then
01:31:02.320
we have covid and you wouldn't take the vaccine how scary of a time was that for you
01:31:09.040
it was terribly scary and you know it's died down a bunch now but every time i think back about
01:31:16.160
those time periods it really was crazy there was so much going on there was so much hysteria
01:31:23.040
it was so polarizing um and i'm just glad that i had the people around me to give me the confidence
01:31:28.960
and trust that i was doing the right thing i knew that true change wasn't going to come
01:31:34.400
through an organization it wasn't going to come through a party um i felt that it was truly going
01:31:38.480
to come through the gospel of jesus christ that we could have real change if we all could see look
01:31:43.360
we all fall short of god's glory and the answer is to love and so i decided to stand up and and say that
01:31:50.720
and it i got tons of negativity for it but the positivity that showered from it was amazing and
01:31:57.280
people understood where i was coming from and so i was excited about that and the same thing with the
01:32:01.040
vaccine um i tried my best to be thoughtful and clear about my position and how i felt that everyone
01:32:06.640
should have the free choice to decide what they want to do with their bodies when it comes to the vaccine
01:32:10.560
so you know you look now at what's happening with the vaccine the pentagon just did a uh a study and
01:32:20.400
they show that um what is it carditis uh stew what is that uh heart condition myocarditis yeah and they
01:32:30.480
said that in the with the military they found an extraordinary uh out of whack number with young
01:32:38.800
people who have myocarditis not after the first vax but after the second vax it went through the roof
01:32:45.280
and you're seeing young athletes now people who are really healthy and i know this has happened in
01:32:51.040
the past i mean it's it is it's not common but it does happen but now you're seeing all of these sports
01:32:57.600
figures and all of these young athletes is this out of whack or is it just that we're noticing it
01:33:04.080
no i i would say it's out of whack i would say it's it's it's extremely unfortunate given the way
01:33:12.400
that covid and everything was handled um i know that there are plenty of people that feel uh i guess
01:33:20.640
robbed in a sense and and let down because of things that are happening um and who knows you know
01:33:26.720
people are talking about it could it be could it be could it have been covid could it have been the
01:33:30.320
vaccines i know you just talked about it being a spike after the second shot um you know i'm not
01:33:35.840
one to just lay blame and say it is what it is but i do right that as time goes on there is going to be
01:33:42.800
a mass uh i would say just reckoning for what happened um in the way that yeah things were handled the
01:33:51.200
pressure that people were under to get vaccinated um and i think it is a disservice to the american people
01:33:56.400
for what happened so back to your product unitis you are making shoes and or soon to be shoes but
01:34:04.560
uh sports clothing sweats t-shirts polos etc etc um and you're doing it on your own you i assume you
01:34:13.920
don't have any big or do you have any big outlets that are coming to you and saying hey we want we want
01:34:21.200
to be a pariah and stand with you uh do you have any big outlets or is it all on online not yet it's
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definitely something that i'd be open to but right now we are just direct to consumer at weareunitas.com
01:34:37.760
um and i i have again big dreams about where we could go i definitely want to have the opportunity to
01:34:43.600
sponsor for colleges and and high schools and things like that as we move forward who knows
01:34:48.640
um but i'm just kind of taking it one step at a time there are plenty of christian catholic um
01:34:54.080
universities and high schools and stuff so we're working on it but right now it is just me and
01:34:58.240
you know we're looking for you know people to come on board and help support and if a if a big outlet
01:35:03.600
wants to take us um to have them in their stores we'd be open to it my son has just become a uh college
01:35:12.160
football coach um which is shocking because i barely even know what football is but um
01:35:19.520
uh i i i would love to and i'll foot the bill i would love to outfit uh his team and the coaches
01:35:28.000
with your product if they would do it i don't know if they would do it but i would love to outfit his
01:35:32.560
his team on that um well you are taking on you're taking on everybody and then you're also not making
01:35:42.320
anything in china everything has to be ethically made um i know because i started a clothing company
01:35:51.760
20 years ago that's really almost suicidal to do that it is so hard to get things of quality made
01:36:00.160
at a reasonably price at a reasonable price how are you doing that it is very why are you doing it
01:36:09.360
yeah so for me i'm not necessarily in a sense i say like an absolutist in terms of like because at the
01:36:17.840
end of the day all of us in some way shape or form use things that are produced in china and so i'm not
01:36:23.840
necessarily okay we can never use anything china it's it's just it's very hard to do for me personally
01:36:30.480
when it came to unitis i had my own conviction that i did not want to manufacture anything in china that
01:36:37.280
was that was my choice and i decided to go that route does it make everything exponentially harder
01:36:44.320
yes does it make producing the clothes harder um absolutely but it was something that i wanted to
01:36:50.000
do and so when it comes to the sneakers i um got hooked up with a company called soulworks and they
01:36:56.080
were able to find a an ethically um operating factory in vietnam when it came to sneakers and so
01:37:03.520
that's where we're at right now when it comes to sneakers we are sourcing clothing material out of peru
01:37:09.680
um and uh and turkey and everything is being embroidered and stitched in the united states
01:37:16.560
and chicago and so it does make everything it does make everything much harder to produce and we're
01:37:22.960
working on finding ways to to mitigate some of those costs and things like that and it's going to take
01:37:27.280
some time um but i i think we made the right decision by by just saying you know what for this
01:37:32.720
especially i know we use things you know produced in china all the time but for me i wanted to i wanted to
01:37:37.920
not um create that affiliation jonathan i uh i have profound respect for you i have no idea what you
01:37:46.000
do really i've never seen you play a game but i have tremendous respect for what you stand for
01:37:53.360
and the fight that you fight every day and the stand that you take so congratulations on this and uh it
01:38:02.640
has started with you and it will end with us unitas is the name of the product thank you so much i
01:38:10.080
appreciate you glenn thank you so much for having me on thank you jonathan isaac and again we are
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unitas.com we are unitas.com that's another way to show nike and everybody else yeah i mean now there's a
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good product out there that you can get uh it speaks to your values and you know hopefully nike
01:38:35.360
will see uh eventually um you know kind of a bud light kind of action against them not because we're
01:38:43.360
boycotting them just because i i don't we don't need you we have something that stands for our values
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so stew tell me honestly how big of a deal is this guy jonathan isaac i mean he's a good player
01:40:44.960
with tons of potential signed a huge deal in 2020 uh which i believe he's going into your i think i
01:40:51.040
think it's year three or four now i think it was 2020 he signed it um but yeah i mean he's he's a big
01:40:56.880
deal and also a guy who uh i mean it took incredible stands i mean he you know he sort of undersells what
01:41:03.840
a big deal that was in when he was not taking a knee i mean the covet vaccine stance was was very
01:41:10.720
difficult as well but you did see other athletes do that type of thing there was almost especially him
01:41:17.440
not only him doing it but also him being an african-american doing it was incredibly important
01:41:23.520
and powerful in that moment i think when he did it at least he was the only nba player i think you're
01:41:30.080
right i think he was the only one and uh it's interesting too my uh this is before we i even
01:41:35.120
knew we had him on the air i got a text from my wife the other day that she had already purchased uh
01:41:39.280
like several items for me and my son and her from from uh his new company just to support it because
01:41:46.240
you know you look at this and there are really no competitors in that in that world that aren't
01:41:52.800
like off the reservation uh when you know correct when it comes to how dare you say that red skin
01:42:00.640
lover oh my gosh you are horrible anyway um you know here's what i would really like to recommend is uh
01:42:07.120
that if you have a little league team or you know a soccer team or anything else your kids are
01:42:14.800
participating in get the parents together and see if you can outlaw outlaw out outfit the entire team
01:42:21.840
in as much of his garb as possible we we can make this into a really cool product because it is a cool
01:42:28.240
product um and we can help him spread the word just by buying his products right now i think this is
01:42:35.440
such an important thing he's taking a gigantic risk i've talked to him about this for gosh almost two years
01:42:42.640
now um and uh he invited me to the launch party i think was saturday and i just couldn't make it
01:42:50.240
but i would have loved to be there i think this is a historic moment i think this is another one of
01:42:55.760
those things that can truly change the course um because you start biting into adidas or nike uh that's a
01:43:05.680
really big deal i mean that you you really make an impact and this is something unlike target that is
01:43:14.240
not going to be a hassle for you this is much more like uh you know bud light you just no i don't want
01:43:20.640
that i want that um and his values are rock solid and uh if you can order anything from him i would love to
01:43:30.560
see a big spike uh for him today just to say thank you but i'm serious if my son's team will do it i'll
01:43:38.400
outfit the whole team in uh unitas product i i think it would be great to have that scene you know on the
01:43:46.240
national scale and start to make an impact his shoes come out in september he said we are unitas.com
01:43:54.720
we are unite us dot com unitas by the way starts with a u ends with an us and has knit in the middle
01:44:03.680
of it for some they left that part out of the slogan for some reason i don't know why then yeah the knit
01:44:09.600
part is really important not with a k just like knit as a knit win i think so unitas if we are unitas.com
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the glenn back program oh yeah so uh you want to know the main reason why i feel it's necessary to
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there is a new poll out uh from uh the uh glenn beck program and uh the glenn beck uh glenn beck dot com
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we did a poll now this isn't very scientific uh because it is a poll that we asked you online to do
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so it wasn't random uh but can we pull the poll up here the results of the poll we did a show on the deep
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state and what is happening wow can't read that stew sorry can you read those um this is something
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we did with the deep still not big enough uh we did on the deep state i did a show on wednesday
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that is so important and i'll probably get into it here in just a little bit uh and probably tomorrow
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the facts of what is going on with this election on the left is truly terrifying and if you don't wake
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up and don't go to your local and your state gop and demand answers and action we will lose the next
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you haven't seen it yet get it while you can on my youtube channel youtube glenn beck uh also on blaze tv
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and you can watch it from the wednesday night special can you go through this real quickly
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yeah sure uh do you do you think the deep state is real uh 98 say yes uh do you believe the deep
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state is biased against conservatives 99 say yes do you believe the deep state interferes with our
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election system 99 say yes do you think our election system is overall reliable and elects the people's
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preferred candidate 97 said no that's that's i know this is obviously i'm not a scientific poll by
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any means but it is a it's a bit concerning that any group of people would come out as 97 no on a
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question like that uh that says we've got work to do uh to to uh increase people's confidence yeah in
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the election system do you think the deep state effectively interferes with our election system to
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get their preferred candidate in power 99 say yes and really the only one with any split was this one
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do you believe the deep state can be stopped and dismantled 72 say yes 28 say no i was much more
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pessimistic on that one i was like i know i know i love i love those people all right um just to show
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on his podcast stay free he had uh vendana shiva on and i i want you to hear what she said listen
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there are three things you cannot give up if you want to stay free yeah we do want to stay free first
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your ability to know and distinguish between truth and untruth right and not allow post-truth to be
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projected as truth and the truth speakers to be projected as conspirators the second is our ability
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to relate to each other without the intervention of a surveillance state and surveillance corporation
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and third because food is what makes us it becomes our blood ourselves our brain
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to not allow the totalitarian takeover of food to make it fake food and push it as the next
01:50:22.880
liberation so the contest today is around these issues speak freely tell the truth
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this is this is uh vandana uh shiva again with russell brand and she said something incredibly
01:50:38.960
important in that clip and we talk about it in dark future it is so important she said we cannot
01:50:45.200
allow the totalitarian takeover of food it seems almost unbelievable food fascism but let's unravel
01:50:54.240
this together here for a second most of us go to the grocery store buy our food and never think about
01:50:59.920
where it came from there are kids that honestly do not know that apples come from a tree
01:51:06.880
they have no idea how the meat is is grown or ends up in the supermarket they have no idea what it is
01:51:16.480
meanwhile bill gates has become the largest private owner of farmland in the country he along with
01:51:23.760
corporations like monsanto and cargill who maybe you've never heard of before probably the most powerful
01:51:30.480
agricultural company on the planet represent a growing movement to exchange local smaller scale farmers
01:51:38.400
for corporations and an elite wealthy class the food is not their priority money is their priority saving
01:51:48.240
the planet is not their priority being more natural more healthy they are starting to grow lab food they're
01:51:56.000
starting to grow meat which is not meat in the laboratory in bags that doesn't that sounds like you're trying
01:52:03.600
to be god when you take uh seeds and you genetically change them so they are patented and they do not you it
01:52:14.080
forces you to buy seeds year after year after year that's not about being more natural more healthy more planet
01:52:21.600
friendly uh at all it's about money when bill gates was asked why he's barring up so buying up so much farmland
01:52:29.120
he said quote my investment group chose to do this this is while he's promoting his book how to avoid a climate disaster
01:52:38.720
he explicitly said buying farmland is not connected to the climate
01:52:44.960
it now wait hold it what this is not about altruism it's about selling potatoes to mcdonald's and yes he
01:52:53.920
does that in the 1970 president nixon's secretary of agriculture famously said that farmers have to quote
01:53:02.640
get big or get out this is unfortunately become more like a fact now than a suggestion and the local farmer
01:53:13.520
is going extinct in its place are the bill gates the major corporations and the new technology we're moving
01:53:22.160
into an era of farms without farmers one day we may not have farms but rather laboratories you know so we
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can heal the earth bill gates has investigated invested in companies creating synthetic meat in laboratories
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he said in an interview quote i do think all rich countries should move to 100 synthetic beef you can
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get used to the taste difference and the claim is they're going to make it taste even better over time
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eventually that green premium is a is modest enough that you can sort of change the behavior of people
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or use regulations to show totally shift the demand notice he doesn't say it's healthier i mean
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as we are worried as the left has rightly so been worried about gmos they've been worried about uh you
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know eating more and more synthetic products now they're seemingly on board with growing everything in a bag
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why would we want to eat synthetic meat for the environment right no a study out of uc davis found that
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lab grown meat's environmental impact may be orders of magnitude higher than regular meat
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let me say that again uc davis lab grown meats environmental impact may be orders of magnitude higher
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than regular meat so why is bill gates oh and cargill investing in it bill gates is also investing in
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ai even through even though uh mit found that training one ai model can admit 626 000 pounds of carbon dioxide
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hmm so it's not about the environment but let's give bill gates and cargill and monsanto the benefit of
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the doubt here let's say they really are pursuing a monopoly on our food on our behalf uh-huh the
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pandemic woke us up to the fact that we are all very reliant on a series of complex systems that could
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fail at any time the grocery stores stop getting groceries when that happens most of us die say that
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happens again say you're hungry who do you want to go to the local farmer or bill gates who do you trust
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with your food you know maslow had the hierarchy of needs it's uh physiological needs like food that's the
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baseline if you don't have food and water nothing else matters henry cabot lodge uh american diplomat
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once said a hungry man is interested uh more in four sandwiches than he is in the four freedoms but
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people who are healthy and have enough to eat will be strong enough to fight against aggression from
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without or from within soviet union they tried collectivized farming that ended in a man-made famine
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that killed millions of ukrainians stalin traded out local farms for collective government farms and the
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farmers who resisted were labeled enemies of the state he controlled their food which meant he
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controlled their lives so food is a freedom issue but it's also a faith issue we have been totally
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disconnected from creation these people think that they are gods if you read the bible it is full of
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agricultural references i am the vine you are the branches you'll know them by their fruit there are
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holidays in the bible that center on planting and harvesting paul wrote in romans that god's invisible
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qualities can be understood by looking at what god has made god made creation to teach us about him
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if we forget how to interact with his creation won't we fall victim to forgetting about him even more than
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we already have it is god who feeds us not bill gates not cargill we're relying on those corporations and
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people who like to play god this is extraordinarily dangerous you can find out much more about it in
01:58:04.960
in the new book dark future but the answer like in many other issues is localization it's each of us
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in some way getting closer to our food source whether that's buying it from someplace local or just
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starting a garden and you don't have to be worried about the intentions of these billionaires and
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corporations controlling our food supply to see the benefit in decentralizing food better for our health
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better for the land better for our communities but it will take all of us doing something even
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something small to take back control of what we eat do not rely on these corporations or these bureaucrats
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or these billionaires we must rely on ourselves on each other our community and most of all rely on our god
01:58:57.840
a while back a listener of mine pam wrote in about uh she couldn't sleep for the longest time she just
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well i noticed that uh stuber gear who is uh he claims to be the executive producer on this program
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he claims to not be a canadian spy um he he claims uh that he is on our side but he has
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hid the news from you about what is going on in the uh hangzoo zoo i i hid the news on the glenn beck
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program the glenn beck program it was my fault uh yes it was uh because uh your honor i have been
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controlled by him forever i don't believe any of that stuff um but uh pictures have been taken
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of a sun bear in china's hangzoo zoo and it looks like have you seen these pictures stew of course
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you have you've been hiding them that's right i've been hiding them so i had to have seen them yes
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right it's out on our today's show prep if you don't get today's show prep uh you know you're
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going to miss all of this or you can just go to the new york post but there's pictures
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pictures of the of the bear standing up in the bear cave um and his picture is taken from his
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on his back do we have that yeah okay so there he is he's standing and he's waving and notice he's
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it is come on there's no way that's real okay they're saying it is they're saying it is then
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there's another picture of him from behind i mean look at that another picture from him behind and right
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where his you know right where his uh neck starts there's a big bump on his neck which appears to
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be the head of somebody in a bear suit okay and look at the fur down by his belly he strangely has a
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like a beer belly uh from a you know from a some guy uh and then his legs are completely straight
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and he's got this extra skin there that looks like fabric now the edinburgh zoo uh the all these
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english zoos which i bet you get money from china are are claiming that's not a man in a bear suit
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see this is the kind of hard-hitting stuff you're not going to get from other shows you're just not
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going to get it or from this show because i i i hide it from everyone that's exactly right that's
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exactly right that is a chinese man in a bear suit