The Glenn Beck Program - The Closing of Our Hearts ｜ Guests： Bill O'Reilly & Mark Levin

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00:00:04.300 Hello America and welcome to Friday.

00:00:07.600 We're so glad that you have joined us today and I want to start with a

00:00:14.240 very personal story that I think if you're a parent, you can relate to.

00:00:22.800 If you've had a teenager, you can relate to.

00:00:26.140 If you've had any trouble in your life, you can relate to.

00:00:30.640 But we are losing the ability to relate to one another because we're not

00:00:38.320 standing up and talking about those common things that we all share.

00:00:44.060 And we begin there.

00:00:45.760 Next.

00:00:47.300 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:00:52.200 All right.

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00:00:54.540 Stand by.

00:00:55.020 There's a recent Gallup survey shows Americans worry more about burglary

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00:01:04.860 I mean, you certainly worry about your stuff.

00:01:07.740 I guess.

00:01:08.540 I guess losing it.

00:01:09.620 I mean, I guess when you, you know, take steps, you worry about it less.

00:01:13.240 Yeah.

00:01:13.740 I mean, and maybe it's because we live in, you know, nice neighborhoods and a

00:01:19.200 lot of people can't afford to live in a nice neighborhood and crime seems to be

00:01:23.440 growing, even though it's not.

00:01:25.460 There is a way for you to take away all of that fear.

00:01:27.960 There's no reason to live in that fear.

00:01:31.560 Most criminals who are trying to break into a house, I think it's 80% of them say

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00:02:54.160 I want to talk to you about two things that I think you can relate to.

00:03:04.060 They were the hardest days of my life.

00:03:09.780 The first one happened in 1988.

00:03:12.260 And I've had, just like you have, a lot of things happen in your life that you would consider and you'd put in a hard bucket.

00:03:18.480 But the day my daughter was born, Mary, in 1988, and they said she'd never walk, she'd never talk, she'd never feed herself, she wouldn't understand speech.

00:03:27.240 She'd be a vegetable.

00:03:30.340 I, at 20 years old, I had no idea what to do.

00:03:35.600 The second day was the day my son was born.

00:03:43.140 Hard, because it was the greatest day of my life, but he was adopted.

00:03:48.440 And we didn't know if his adopted mother, who fell in love with him, was going to give him up to us.

00:03:58.860 Now my son is a teenager, and my two kids, I love all my kids, and they're the greatest things of my life.

00:04:11.620 Truly the greatest things of my life.

00:04:13.420 But they're the hardest things I've ever done.

00:04:18.560 I have worked hard in my life.

00:04:20.520 I have, I have tried to noodle things through, but when it comes to raising my son, and to get through the teenage years, I am grasping at straws.

00:04:32.500 And I feel, almost every day, I'm about to lose him.

00:04:35.540 My daughter is now in her 30s, and she prays for the day when she crosses over to the other side and her disabilities are removed, because she knows that her life will be easier.

00:05:05.540 She, right now, is going through testing.

00:05:09.660 She's been going through testing for about a year.

00:05:11.820 One of the tests, one, was $50,000.

00:05:16.240 What she is, what they're proposing, in the end, will probably be about a million dollars.

00:05:24.760 So she can just stop having seizures.

00:05:30.680 I pray.

00:05:31.680 I pray for new medical technology.

00:05:38.760 I can't wait for the future.

00:05:44.760 I pray every night for my son.

00:05:47.500 On my knees, I beg the Lord for help.

00:05:56.960 I'm not alone.

00:05:59.660 And neither are you.

00:06:01.680 I know, just like you, you have these struggles with your kids, and then you have to go to work.

00:06:14.160 Then you have to pay your mortgage.

00:06:16.260 Then you have to worry about your car payment, or if your car has broken down, how am I going to afford this?

00:06:22.120 Please, I know that you are no different than me, that whatever the struggle is, there are times in your life that you look up and you're like, Lord, I can't do any more.

00:06:33.980 I need help.

00:06:36.840 Please.

00:06:37.480 But through all of that, it's the greatest joy of my life.

00:06:46.280 I wouldn't trade a single day with my daughter.

00:06:58.600 I wouldn't trade a single day with my son.

00:07:01.980 I wouldn't take away the pains of my own life because they've given me a chance to feel empathy.

00:07:20.600 It's given me a chance to be a better man.

00:07:24.760 It's given me a chance to know what real love is.

00:07:28.680 Only when you're down on your knees going, Lord, give it to me.

00:07:32.780 Give it to me.

00:07:36.580 I give my life in exchange for theirs.

00:07:39.760 Only when you get there, are you really living?

00:07:47.260 Do you really know what love is?

00:07:51.040 Do you know what's worth living for, not just what's worth dying for?

00:07:58.100 If it wasn't for my literal pain,

00:08:28.100 of the last ten years,

00:08:30.240 I don't know if I'd really know who my wife is.

00:08:36.060 I don't know if I'd know how much she really, truly loved me.

00:08:48.340 I wouldn't be the same man.

00:08:53.860 Pain and struggle.

00:08:58.100 It's what makes us.

00:09:03.120 An animal doesn't understand pain.

00:09:06.280 It's why we put them down.

00:09:08.580 They don't understand pain.

00:09:11.020 Don't let them suffer.

00:09:14.640 Because that's all it is, is suffering.

00:09:17.520 There is no learning.

00:09:18.940 There is no growing through that pain.

00:09:21.020 How many people do you know that you find are giants,

00:09:26.100 that they are in massive pain,

00:09:28.380 they're having massive problems,

00:09:30.500 and yet you wouldn't know it.

00:09:33.360 If you didn't know them, you wouldn't know it.

00:09:35.980 They somehow or another have reached out of the mud and the muck

00:09:45.500 and the pain and the struggle of life,

00:09:48.760 and they have pulled themselves out,

00:09:51.160 and they are almost superhuman.

00:09:53.320 I don't know about you,

00:09:55.780 but that's who I want to be.

00:10:09.460 Come to me like a child.

00:10:11.660 There comes a point in your life

00:10:20.860 where you realize you don't know anything,

00:10:23.520 and if you don't get there,

00:10:26.000 you're an egomaniac,

00:10:27.380 and you're probably a danger.

00:10:30.860 But the older you get,

00:10:32.340 the more you realize,

00:10:33.900 what a fool I am.

00:10:35.820 What a fool I am.

00:10:35.880 What a fool I am.

00:10:41.660 Come to me like a child.

00:10:48.080 It means to constantly ask why.

00:10:52.760 It means to constantly look at things

00:10:55.580 and find the beauty in it,

00:10:59.260 and to not focus on the difference,

00:11:02.380 but to focus on,

00:11:03.560 this is so cool.

00:11:05.780 And the more we think we know,

00:11:13.700 the less we truly do.

00:11:18.260 The more we fill our head,

00:11:20.440 it seems,

00:11:22.240 the more we close down

00:11:25.660 its extraordinarily important counterpart,

00:11:29.360 the heart.

00:11:29.780 The more we concentrate on the heart,

00:11:33.700 the more we close down,

00:11:36.840 it seems,

00:11:37.660 the extraordinarily important counterpart

00:11:40.520 of the head.

00:11:45.360 Life is always a constant battle

00:11:47.640 between head and heart.

00:11:49.040 It's only when they're in line

00:11:50.760 that we survive.

00:12:02.420 I know Alice Camerata,

00:12:05.120 or Alice and Camerata,

00:12:06.860 vaguely,

00:12:08.740 a little bit.

00:12:09.260 We work together for a little bit.

00:12:10.960 We've talked on the phone

00:12:11.860 a couple of times.

00:12:12.640 We're not friends.

00:12:13.540 We just know each other.

00:12:15.400 She said something on CNN

00:12:17.180 the other day

00:12:17.720 that I just could not believe.

00:12:21.660 And it's the closing of the heart.

00:12:26.560 States are talking now

00:12:27.860 about abortion.

00:12:30.500 And she was talking

00:12:35.040 to a governor

00:12:35.560 of one of these states

00:12:36.560 that said,

00:12:37.640 you know,

00:12:38.260 you can't kill a child

00:12:40.540 based on race.

00:12:43.180 You can't kill a child

00:12:44.940 based on disability or sex.

00:12:49.280 This seems to be

00:12:51.040 one of those things

00:12:55.420 that we used to find self-evident.

00:12:59.400 If you can kill a child

00:13:00.940 based on something

00:13:01.760 society doesn't want,

00:13:03.480 there would be no homosexuals.

00:13:06.780 If we could have found out

00:13:08.340 in the womb

00:13:08.860 that you were a homosexual

00:13:10.020 a hundred years ago,

00:13:11.920 it would have killed

00:13:12.620 all the homosexuals.

00:13:14.280 There wouldn't be

00:13:14.860 a black person alive today.

00:13:20.260 In a lot of places,

00:13:21.360 they'd still be doing it.

00:13:31.900 Disney is talking

00:13:32.760 about not doing business

00:13:33.900 because of the abortion law,

00:13:35.460 but they'll do business

00:13:36.200 with Saudi Arabia.

00:13:37.340 They'll do business

00:13:38.220 with China

00:13:38.720 that is locking up Muslims,

00:13:40.880 a million people

00:13:41.880 at a clip,

00:13:43.280 putting them

00:13:43.780 into concentration camps,

00:13:45.760 sterilizing them,

00:13:48.120 sterilizing them.

00:13:53.120 I want you to listen

00:13:54.220 to what Allison said

00:13:55.940 on CNN.

00:13:58.320 Indiana had tried

00:14:00.340 to block women

00:14:02.180 from getting abortions

00:14:03.420 if it were based

00:14:04.140 on a disability,

00:14:05.040 and I'm just curious

00:14:05.780 about that one.

00:14:06.680 why would you want

00:14:08.840 a family

00:14:09.860 who have to

00:14:12.020 have a child

00:14:13.760 with a severe disability?

00:14:16.960 Well,

00:14:17.540 the issue

00:14:17.980 that the General Assembly

00:14:18.800 faced was not

00:14:19.940 with regard to

00:14:20.820 the question you posed.

00:14:21.960 It's the question

00:14:22.500 of the rights

00:14:23.780 and consideration

00:14:24.300 of the unborn child

00:14:25.680 in terms of a discriminatory...

00:14:26.860 Why would you do this?

00:14:28.080 It was so compassionate.

00:14:29.500 Why would you...

00:14:30.620 Why?

00:14:31.340 Why would you let

00:14:32.480 a child with disability...

00:14:33.680 When I heard this,

00:14:36.120 when I was up on vacation,

00:14:37.400 I've been painting memes.

00:14:40.940 I call them

00:14:41.420 10-hour memes.

00:14:42.840 Fine art memes.

00:14:44.400 I know you can make them

00:14:45.320 on the computer

00:14:45.880 in about 10 seconds,

00:14:47.120 but I've been spending hours

00:14:49.020 making them

00:14:49.720 in my spare time.

00:14:51.700 And I've been using

00:14:54.260 old propaganda.

00:14:55.920 And so I saw

00:14:56.880 the abortion debate

00:14:57.860 and I found

00:14:58.720 two flyers

00:15:00.700 that I was going to paint

00:15:02.060 sometime in the future.

00:15:04.740 And I found them

00:15:05.780 last week.

00:15:06.580 And they're both

00:15:07.780 from Germany.

00:15:08.560 And the first one is

00:15:09.780 children with disabilities.

00:15:13.260 And it says,

00:15:14.620 translated,

00:15:15.960 sterilization,

00:15:16.780 not a punishment,

00:15:17.600 but liberation.

00:15:18.260 What parents

00:15:20.740 would like to wish

00:15:22.100 their children

00:15:22.780 such a horrible wish?

00:15:25.400 Who wants to be

00:15:26.960 guilty of this?

00:15:28.960 That's exactly

00:15:30.040 what Allison was saying.

00:15:32.180 Who wants to be

00:15:33.480 guilty of this?

00:15:34.920 Who wants to put

00:15:35.700 the child or the parent

00:15:37.040 through this?

00:15:39.260 Well, there's

00:15:40.360 a follow-up

00:15:41.440 and it's this.

00:15:44.200 It's

00:15:44.920 one German worker

00:15:46.980 holding up

00:15:50.320 two people,

00:15:51.560 one an old guy

00:15:52.740 and one that looks

00:15:53.560 like a monkey.

00:15:55.860 You also carry

00:15:57.200 the burden.

00:15:58.580 Someone with disease

00:15:59.900 will cost the average,

00:16:01.760 it will cost

00:16:02.420 the average

00:16:03.040 50,000 Reichmarks

00:16:04.520 before he reaches

00:16:05.420 60 years.

00:16:06.400 We're going to find

00:16:17.860 out that those

00:16:18.640 with disabilities

00:16:19.480 are the ones

00:16:20.740 who are far greater

00:16:21.480 than we are.

00:16:25.360 We are going

00:16:26.520 to

00:16:27.120 at some point

00:16:29.220 realize

00:16:30.000 what we are

00:16:31.620 actually talking

00:16:32.640 about.

00:16:33.060 first they came

00:16:37.480 for the black

00:16:38.040 child,

00:16:38.600 but I wasn't

00:16:39.080 black,

00:16:39.560 so I didn't

00:16:40.620 say anything.

00:16:42.760 Then they came

00:16:43.740 for the Down

00:16:44.340 Syndrome child,

00:16:45.400 but I looked

00:16:46.320 through

00:16:46.780 my eyes

00:16:48.540 and I

00:16:50.160 thought,

00:16:51.360 how could I

00:16:52.480 parent a child

00:16:53.620 like this?

00:16:54.320 So I looked

00:16:54.960 at them through

00:16:55.380 the eyes of fear

00:16:56.360 and I said

00:16:57.020 nothing.

00:16:58.220 I compared

00:16:58.920 my imperfect

00:17:00.020 and garish

00:17:00.880 life to their

00:17:01.840 simple never

00:17:02.660 being able to

00:17:03.460 get married

00:17:04.320 maybe or buy

00:17:05.080 their first

00:17:05.560 house or have

00:17:06.540 their first

00:17:07.040 car or drink

00:17:08.240 their college

00:17:08.920 years away and

00:17:09.920 party like I

00:17:10.860 did and I

00:17:11.760 thought I

00:17:12.340 wouldn't want

00:17:13.300 that for my

00:17:14.220 life,

00:17:15.620 that simple

00:17:16.400 life,

00:17:16.940 so I said

00:17:17.480 nothing.

00:17:18.880 When they came

00:17:19.560 for me because

00:17:20.420 I had cancer,

00:17:21.560 I was too

00:17:22.040 old,

00:17:22.560 I was no

00:17:23.480 longer really

00:17:24.480 of any use

00:17:25.320 for society,

00:17:26.260 there was no

00:17:26.820 one left to

00:17:28.160 stand for

00:17:29.100 me.

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00:19:24.060 know the

00:19:24.560 economy is so

00:19:25.480 important.

00:19:26.060 I know that

00:19:27.160 immigration, what's

00:19:28.280 happening on our

00:19:28.780 border, is so

00:19:29.680 important.

00:19:31.380 But if we don't

00:19:32.280 get this life

00:19:33.000 thing right, we're

00:19:34.440 not going to make

00:19:35.180 it.

00:19:35.840 Because we're

00:19:36.600 entering a time

00:19:37.480 now where the

00:19:38.880 Nazis' greatest

00:19:40.080 dreams are being

00:19:41.280 realized.

00:19:42.780 We can pick a

00:19:44.200 child and make

00:19:45.020 sure that they're

00:19:45.660 all Aryan.

00:19:47.300 They're all

00:19:47.820 blue-eyed, or

00:19:48.880 they're all

00:19:49.280 brown-eyed, or

00:19:50.380 they're all

00:19:50.760 green-eyed.

00:19:51.740 There's not a

00:19:52.700 single white

00:19:53.200 person born.

00:19:54.480 There's not a

00:19:55.300 Jew born.

00:19:56.140 There's not a

00:19:56.500 black born.

00:19:58.100 There's no more

00:19:59.380 men.

00:20:01.480 We're going to

00:20:02.700 genetically

00:20:04.280 change men.

00:20:07.480 Remember, the

00:20:08.620 tastes of

00:20:09.600 societies change.

00:20:11.420 And if you

00:20:11.680 don't believe me,

00:20:12.740 go to an art

00:20:13.380 museum and look

00:20:14.200 at the paintings

00:20:15.520 of the big,

00:20:16.080 fat, naked

00:20:16.700 women.

00:20:17.060 What?

00:20:23.280 Tastes change.

00:20:26.300 Racism is a

00:20:27.380 human trait.

00:20:30.280 What we believe

00:20:31.760 is true is most

00:20:33.480 times not.

00:20:39.920 If we don't get

00:20:41.000 this one right,

00:20:42.520 our children and

00:20:45.060 our grandchildren

00:20:45.640 are going to

00:20:46.160 pay a very,

00:20:46.780 very, very

00:20:47.380 high price,

00:20:48.900 I would ask

00:20:50.380 that you would

00:20:51.440 stand for life.

00:20:53.160 I would ask

00:20:53.840 that you would

00:20:54.820 help your

00:20:55.660 neighbors and

00:20:56.300 your friends

00:20:57.000 see the path

00:20:58.620 that we're going

00:20:59.260 down.

00:20:59.780 The things that

00:21:00.520 they're saying

00:21:01.160 now are the

00:21:02.040 things that the

00:21:02.860 Nazis said

00:21:03.860 in propaganda.

00:21:06.140 These people are

00:21:07.080 now just saying it

00:21:07.920 right from their

00:21:08.500 heart because

00:21:09.740 they have closed

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00:22:48.260 Welcome to the

00:22:49.060 program.

00:22:49.440 Glad you're here.

00:22:49.920 Pat Gray is with

00:22:51.500 us from Pat Gray

00:22:52.400 Unleashed podcast.

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00:22:55.980 Hi, Pat.

00:22:56.500 How are you doing

00:22:57.320 good?

00:22:57.720 Good.

00:22:57.980 You want to talk

00:22:58.500 today about

00:22:59.220 Disney's threatened

00:23:00.940 boycott of Georgia?

00:23:02.720 Oh, yeah.

00:23:04.020 Bob Iger just made

00:23:06.000 this announcement

00:23:07.200 yesterday.

00:23:08.540 The abortion bill in

00:23:09.720 Georgia.

00:23:10.360 How do you feel

00:23:11.180 about that?

00:23:11.720 And is Disney

00:23:12.440 going to keep

00:23:12.820 producing there?

00:23:13.460 Well, I think if

00:23:15.460 it becomes law, it

00:23:17.000 will be very

00:23:17.380 difficult to

00:23:18.040 reduce it.

00:23:18.480 I rather doubt

00:23:18.940 we will.

00:23:20.180 Why?

00:23:20.800 I don't think

00:23:21.260 many people who

00:23:24.240 work for us will

00:23:24.900 not want to work

00:23:25.600 there.

00:23:26.820 And we'll have

00:23:28.020 to heed their

00:23:28.860 wishes in that

00:23:29.520 regard.

00:23:30.080 Right now, we're

00:23:30.900 watching it very

00:23:32.140 carefully.

00:23:33.260 Stop.

00:23:33.640 So I don't

00:23:34.100 have a I don't

00:23:34.780 actually have a

00:23:35.360 problem with Bob

00:23:35.960 Iger saying this.

00:23:37.440 I wish he had a

00:23:38.020 spine, but he is

00:23:39.520 giving in to the

00:23:40.920 wishes of all the

00:23:41.720 creatives and you

00:23:42.800 know, well, you're

00:23:43.460 going to what are

00:23:44.100 you going to do?

00:23:44.700 The same thing if

00:23:46.060 their wish was,

00:23:46.920 yeah, we don't

00:23:47.740 want to we don't

00:23:48.320 want to perform in

00:23:49.000 New York because

00:23:49.860 their abortion law

00:23:51.280 is so extreme.

00:23:52.860 They can kill a

00:23:53.980 baby that's just

00:23:54.800 about to be born.

00:23:55.860 If a company had

00:23:56.980 most of their

00:23:57.800 employees saying

00:23:59.160 that, I think it

00:24:00.200 would.

00:24:00.740 You think they'd

00:24:01.180 care to cave to

00:24:01.900 that?

00:24:02.200 Yeah, I think if

00:24:02.840 most of their

00:24:03.460 employees were

00:24:04.340 saying that they

00:24:05.400 would like a

00:24:06.340 would Chick-fil-A

00:24:07.400 if they said, you

00:24:08.980 know what, we

00:24:09.320 don't want to go

00:24:09.680 to New York

00:24:10.200 because we

00:24:11.720 don't want to

00:24:12.080 have abortion

00:24:12.780 because we

00:24:13.180 don't like the

00:24:13.460 abortion law.

00:24:14.800 I mean, they

00:24:15.280 would get

00:24:15.540 destroyed by the

00:24:16.480 media for that

00:24:16.960 stance.

00:24:17.360 Oh, of course.

00:24:18.160 Oh, yeah, but

00:24:19.060 Chick-fil-A would

00:24:19.900 do it.

00:24:20.720 Yeah, they

00:24:20.900 would do it.

00:24:21.260 They would do

00:24:21.560 it.

00:24:22.040 I don't think

00:24:22.600 it's bad to

00:24:23.000 have principles.

00:24:23.580 It's interesting

00:24:24.120 that their

00:24:25.220 principles are, you

00:24:26.000 know, we really,

00:24:26.800 really just adore

00:24:27.640 killing little

00:24:28.400 children.

00:24:29.140 Bob Iger's

00:24:29.760 principle is I

00:24:30.480 got to make

00:24:30.800 money.

00:24:31.340 I got to make

00:24:31.700 movies and I

00:24:32.380 got to make

00:24:32.680 money.

00:24:33.160 Probably.

00:24:33.720 And certainly

00:24:34.320 he doesn't give

00:24:34.980 a crap about

00:24:35.440 the crew.

00:24:36.040 Yeah.

00:24:36.320 The poor people

00:24:37.080 who are working

00:24:37.680 in Georgia on

00:24:38.460 these movies who

00:24:39.120 probably are all

00:24:40.380 on their side of

00:24:41.640 the argument when

00:24:42.220 it comes to

00:24:42.640 abortion.

00:24:43.140 He also doesn't

00:24:43.720 give a crap about

00:24:44.500 China's policies.

00:24:45.520 No, I know.

00:24:45.980 They've got people

00:24:46.700 in internment

00:24:47.380 camps right now

00:24:47.980 and they're

00:24:48.220 killing millions

00:24:48.840 of Muslims.

00:24:49.980 I know.

00:24:50.860 And but they're

00:24:51.400 doing business

00:24:51.880 with China.

00:24:52.480 Yeah, they're

00:24:52.840 doing business

00:24:53.320 with China.

00:24:54.160 Yeah.

00:24:54.560 Yeah.

00:24:55.260 Isn't that

00:24:55.820 interesting?

00:24:56.320 The hypocrisy.

00:24:57.260 I think it is

00:24:59.460 remarkable what

00:25:01.100 we are going

00:25:01.800 through.

00:25:02.220 And that's why

00:25:02.760 we started the

00:25:03.420 show the way we

00:25:04.080 did is we've

00:25:05.520 we've we've got

00:25:06.620 to take a stand

00:25:07.320 and the way to

00:25:07.880 fight this.

00:25:08.780 Yes, we have to

00:25:09.300 take a stand.

00:25:09.920 That's my point.

00:25:10.620 Yeah, we have

00:25:11.460 to take a stand

00:25:12.300 and the way to

00:25:13.200 fight it is to

00:25:14.040 say, oh, OK,

00:25:15.400 Disney.

00:25:15.960 Bye bye.

00:25:16.960 Right.

00:25:17.620 You know, yeah,

00:25:18.200 but all of us

00:25:18.960 have to do that

00:25:19.520 too.

00:25:19.720 Not just Georgia.

00:25:20.820 And I feel all

00:25:21.360 of us.

00:25:21.800 Governor Brian

00:25:22.500 Kemp is is

00:25:23.460 telling him that

00:25:24.220 he's saying, yeah,

00:25:25.100 OK, see ya.

00:25:26.360 Yeah, I mean,

00:25:26.740 it's it's it's

00:25:27.440 really the the

00:25:28.460 iPhone thing.

00:25:30.280 Go with me here

00:25:31.580 for a second.

00:25:32.340 I have this

00:25:33.100 conversation with my

00:25:33.900 wife all the time.

00:25:35.020 I'll be like,

00:25:35.520 put the iPhone

00:25:36.100 down, put the

00:25:36.620 iPhone down, put

00:25:37.620 it down, put it

00:25:38.260 down, put it

00:25:38.620 down, crackhead,

00:25:39.420 crackhead, put it

00:25:40.380 down.

00:25:41.060 And she'd be like,

00:25:42.100 I am doing all

00:25:43.080 of these things.

00:25:43.840 I got it.

00:25:44.840 OK, well, you

00:25:45.900 know what?

00:25:46.200 Go without it for

00:25:46.960 a week.

00:25:47.380 Are you kidding

00:25:48.080 me?

00:25:48.620 You know what,

00:25:49.260 honey?

00:25:49.580 You sure did it

00:25:50.740 10 years ago

00:25:51.980 and we were fine.

00:25:53.800 That's what George

00:25:54.660 and all these other

00:25:55.340 places need to say.

00:25:56.660 Oh, Hollywood won't

00:25:57.820 produce our movie,

00:25:58.780 their movies here.

00:25:59.980 Oh, see, Georgia

00:26:01.120 was doing pretty

00:26:01.920 fine without them.

00:26:03.680 We don't have to

00:26:04.740 worry about it.

00:26:05.900 You will find

00:26:07.000 other things.

00:26:08.840 And if we start

00:26:10.800 putting life

00:26:12.540 behind making a

00:26:15.900 stupid movie,

00:26:17.740 wow.

00:26:19.400 Or going to a

00:26:20.720 stupid movie.

00:26:21.900 If we started

00:26:23.000 hitting Disney in

00:26:23.920 the pocketbook,

00:26:24.780 like I'm not going

00:26:25.320 to your Disney

00:26:27.360 world.

00:26:27.740 I'm not going

00:26:28.500 to Disneyland

00:26:29.040 and not going

00:26:29.900 to your Disney

00:26:30.480 movies.

00:26:31.000 But with Star Wars

00:26:32.420 and Marvel,

00:26:34.260 you're just not

00:26:34.660 going to.

00:26:35.100 You're not going

00:26:35.440 to.

00:26:35.680 And that's the

00:26:36.260 only thing that

00:26:37.000 would make a

00:26:37.460 statement to Bob

00:26:38.640 Iger and to

00:26:39.260 Disney.

00:26:39.800 OK, we can play

00:26:41.360 that game too.

00:26:42.400 And on the other

00:26:42.700 side, boycotts lose

00:26:43.600 their effectiveness

00:26:44.260 when you don't

00:26:46.000 give them

00:26:46.840 credibility.

00:26:47.760 The power.

00:26:48.500 Like, you know,

00:26:49.520 North Carolina

00:26:50.240 tried to stand up

00:26:51.420 against when the

00:26:52.180 bathroom law thing

00:26:52.940 was going on last

00:26:53.700 year.

00:26:54.640 And they were

00:26:55.200 like, we passed

00:26:56.560 this law.

00:26:57.040 It's important.

00:26:57.620 And all this.

00:26:58.000 Then the NBA

00:26:58.680 was like, yeah,

00:26:59.340 we're not going

00:26:59.660 to have our

00:26:59.940 all-star game

00:27:00.720 there.

00:27:00.940 Like, OK, forget

00:27:01.620 it.

00:27:01.940 We didn't care.

00:27:02.820 And it would

00:27:03.000 stop.

00:27:03.580 Stop.

00:27:03.880 We're sorry.

00:27:04.960 It's like, all

00:27:05.600 right, let's not

00:27:06.160 going to work.

00:27:06.820 Right.

00:27:07.000 Like you have

00:27:07.840 to when you make

00:27:08.780 a decision like

00:27:09.460 that and you

00:27:10.140 know the

00:27:10.460 consequences,

00:27:11.080 what you're

00:27:11.480 saying is I'm

00:27:12.220 putting this at

00:27:13.520 a higher priority

00:27:14.460 than that.

00:27:15.480 Right.

00:27:15.660 Georgia is

00:27:16.040 saying I'm

00:27:16.380 putting life at

00:27:16.940 a higher priority

00:27:17.580 than than

00:27:18.380 Disney.

00:27:18.860 And Disney is

00:27:19.480 saying I'm

00:27:20.420 putting abortion

00:27:24.000 workers in

00:27:24.600 the state than

00:27:25.840 my potentially

00:27:26.920 my previous

00:27:27.500 commitments and

00:27:29.460 maybe the

00:27:30.160 business influence.

00:27:32.140 And they can

00:27:32.660 make that choice

00:27:33.220 as a company.

00:27:33.840 They can.

00:27:34.220 They can say,

00:27:34.800 you know what,

00:27:35.240 we just we just

00:27:36.060 heart killing

00:27:36.760 babies.

00:27:38.000 We just love

00:27:39.000 and in those

00:27:39.420 heartbeats and

00:27:40.440 they can just do

00:27:41.020 that all they

00:27:41.400 want.

00:27:41.700 And if that's

00:27:42.380 their principle,

00:27:42.820 then you know

00:27:43.320 what their

00:27:43.560 principle is.

00:27:44.420 And you can

00:27:44.760 make that decision

00:27:45.340 whether you feel

00:27:45.940 like that principle

00:27:47.020 is one you want

00:27:47.500 to play with.

00:27:48.380 It's interesting

00:27:48.940 that we raise

00:27:50.480 our children on

00:27:51.480 Disney and yet

00:27:53.220 Disney is not

00:27:54.820 standing for the

00:27:56.260 unborn children.

00:27:57.540 I mean, it's

00:27:58.000 it's really

00:27:58.700 truly remarkable

00:27:59.820 with that being

00:28:01.620 that being said

00:28:02.920 boycotts are

00:28:04.680 just destruction

00:28:05.660 and that's

00:28:06.920 not that's

00:28:08.820 not how to

00:28:09.840 fight or win.

00:28:11.420 Now, I am

00:28:12.140 always torn on

00:28:13.080 boycotts.

00:28:13.760 I am right now.

00:28:14.720 Yeah, I'm really

00:28:15.520 torn on boycotts

00:28:16.760 because I mean

00:28:17.460 Martin Luther King

00:28:18.120 said, you know,

00:28:19.420 if we don't boycott

00:28:20.720 if we don't hit

00:28:21.200 him in the pocket

00:28:21.860 book, it's not

00:28:22.680 going to make a

00:28:23.120 difference.

00:28:23.420 And he was

00:28:23.820 right.

00:28:25.860 However, what

00:28:27.300 is boycotts

00:28:30.060 will work when

00:28:32.220 there's creative

00:28:33.160 destruction.

00:28:34.820 And what I mean

00:28:35.320 by that is

00:28:36.260 there it's easy

00:28:37.780 for people to

00:28:38.580 boycott on the

00:28:39.440 left because they

00:28:40.300 can say I'm not

00:28:41.500 going to watch

00:28:42.300 Fox News.

00:28:43.500 Well, they're

00:28:43.800 fine not watching

00:28:44.800 Fox News because

00:28:45.980 they have six

00:28:46.860 other things that

00:28:48.040 they like more.

00:28:49.720 When we say I'm

00:28:51.200 going to boycott

00:28:51.880 Disney, what are

00:28:52.840 you replacing that

00:28:53.560 hole with?

00:28:55.800 Well, I'm going to

00:28:56.620 boycott this.

00:28:57.780 Really?

00:28:58.460 Are you?

00:28:59.360 You're going to

00:28:59.720 boycott Google?

00:29:01.120 You're going to

00:29:01.720 boycott Facebook?

00:29:03.120 You're going to

00:29:03.560 boycott what?

00:29:05.680 Apple?

00:29:06.800 What are you

00:29:07.580 replacing it with?

00:29:08.900 I mean, there's

00:29:09.280 no way Pat could

00:29:10.020 boycott Facebook.

00:29:11.340 It's too much of

00:29:11.800 his life.

00:29:12.460 It's just too big

00:29:13.320 of a part of his

00:29:13.900 life.

00:29:14.520 Social media for

00:29:15.580 Pat.

00:29:15.940 But what I'm

00:29:16.620 saying is the

00:29:17.260 average person,

00:29:18.540 they want to

00:29:19.660 boycott Facebook,

00:29:20.620 but it's already

00:29:21.660 such a big part

00:29:22.420 of their life

00:29:22.820 and there's

00:29:23.260 nothing that is

00:29:24.860 on the other

00:29:25.640 side that is

00:29:26.700 just as good.

00:29:28.680 And so what

00:29:29.020 has to happen is

00:29:30.000 you have to have

00:29:30.680 creative destruction

00:29:31.680 and there we

00:29:32.680 have to start

00:29:33.360 developing.

00:29:33.920 For instance,

00:29:34.440 we have to go

00:29:35.780 and support some

00:29:36.740 really crappy

00:29:37.520 Christian movies

00:29:38.460 to get to

00:29:40.360 some good

00:29:41.320 Christian movies.

00:29:42.600 You know what I

00:29:42.840 mean?

00:29:43.100 And we've done

00:29:43.520 that.

00:29:43.820 And we've done

00:29:44.320 that.

00:29:44.780 And you see

00:29:45.800 they're getting

00:29:46.580 good and

00:29:47.660 you're and

00:29:48.120 it's away from

00:29:49.160 the studio

00:29:49.700 system.

00:29:50.280 That's a really

00:29:50.580 good example

00:29:51.140 because it's

00:29:51.760 worked in that

00:29:52.700 in that case.

00:29:53.820 You have to

00:29:54.700 you have to

00:29:55.880 leave the

00:29:57.360 blaze out of

00:29:57.920 this.

00:29:58.320 You have to

00:29:58.840 go and

00:29:59.280 subscribe to

00:30:00.620 Ben Shapiro

00:30:01.580 or to Bill

00:30:02.740 O'Reilly or

00:30:03.940 whatever the

00:30:04.860 blaze.

00:30:05.600 You have to

00:30:06.720 subscribe because

00:30:07.840 we are in the

00:30:09.100 creative destruction

00:30:10.280 process.

00:30:11.780 You're never

00:30:12.240 going to

00:30:12.900 replace these

00:30:14.180 mainstream media

00:30:15.280 overnight.

00:30:16.500 It's just not

00:30:16.920 going to

00:30:17.120 happen.

00:30:17.660 It has to

00:30:18.760 start from

00:30:19.660 the grassroots

00:30:20.520 and then

00:30:21.800 build and it

00:30:22.560 will get better

00:30:23.240 and better and

00:30:23.900 better and

00:30:24.440 10 years from

00:30:25.420 now things will

00:30:26.140 be different.

00:30:27.280 But you can't

00:30:28.140 boycott without

00:30:29.520 the other option

00:30:31.100 that is just as

00:30:32.120 good if not

00:30:32.920 better.

00:30:33.520 That's why it

00:30:34.440 works for the

00:30:35.780 right for the

00:30:36.500 left and why it

00:30:37.800 doesn't work for

00:30:39.340 the right.

00:30:40.460 I'm not going

00:30:41.740 shopping at

00:30:42.900 Target or

00:30:43.840 Walmart or

00:30:44.940 Kmart or

00:30:47.360 any other.

00:30:48.080 Really?

00:30:48.780 Where are you

00:30:49.080 going to go

00:30:49.360 buy stuff?

00:30:51.360 I'm not going

00:30:52.340 to go to

00:30:52.700 Target ever

00:30:53.360 again.

00:30:54.160 Okay.

00:30:55.300 How long

00:30:56.360 did that last?

00:30:57.940 Because you

00:30:58.880 like Target.

00:31:01.000 You like these

00:31:02.300 places and

00:31:03.060 there's nothing

00:31:03.820 just as good

00:31:05.280 on the other

00:31:06.440 side because

00:31:07.200 they've got

00:31:08.080 all of those.

00:31:10.500 I'm going to

00:31:11.140 buy all my

00:31:11.580 groceries at

00:31:12.180 Home Depot

00:31:12.540 now.

00:31:12.880 That's

00:31:14.180 exactly right.

00:31:15.020 That's what

00:31:15.380 it's like.

00:31:16.160 That's the

00:31:17.180 company we

00:31:17.660 have.

00:31:18.040 So I'm

00:31:18.900 going to go

00:31:19.120 grocery shopping

00:31:19.760 for milk and

00:31:20.720 bread and

00:31:22.020 cookies at

00:31:22.680 Home Depot.

00:31:23.520 Right.

00:31:24.000 I'm never

00:31:25.040 buying anything

00:31:25.800 again on

00:31:26.320 Amazon.

00:31:27.400 Really?

00:31:28.580 Yeah, that's

00:31:29.240 not going to

00:31:29.500 happen.

00:31:29.840 So what is it

00:31:30.460 we have,

00:31:30.960 though?

00:31:31.720 Since we

00:31:32.360 don't do

00:31:32.780 boycotts and

00:31:33.680 don't really

00:31:34.120 even believe in

00:31:34.720 them, although

00:31:35.340 you and I are

00:31:36.340 torn on that a

00:31:36.900 little bit,

00:31:37.640 what do you do

00:31:38.340 to make a

00:31:38.800 statement to the

00:31:39.360 Disney's and

00:31:39.820 the Netflix's

00:31:40.560 of the world

00:31:41.240 that it's

00:31:42.600 unacceptable.

00:31:42.940 You know

00:31:43.200 what?

00:31:43.500 I am so

00:31:45.120 proud of my

00:31:46.120 daughter Hannah

00:31:46.840 because she

00:31:48.860 has become

00:31:49.660 this greenie

00:31:51.260 and not

00:31:51.840 because of

00:31:52.400 global warming

00:31:53.040 but because

00:31:53.940 she believes

00:31:54.860 that we

00:31:55.320 waste too

00:31:55.880 much.

00:31:56.620 Okay.

00:31:57.240 And she

00:31:58.400 has never

00:32:00.020 lectured me.

00:32:01.060 I mean, I

00:32:01.620 joke with her

00:32:02.300 all the time.

00:32:03.080 She comes

00:32:03.460 over and I

00:32:03.860 be like

00:32:04.300 styrofoam.

00:32:06.380 It's so

00:32:07.240 wonderful.

00:32:08.220 And it

00:32:10.180 is.

00:32:10.600 Yeah, it

00:32:10.960 is.

00:32:11.280 And she, you

00:32:12.140 know, she

00:32:12.580 throws it back

00:32:13.220 in my face,

00:32:13.780 but it's

00:32:14.120 never, she's

00:32:15.640 not trying to

00:32:16.720 convince anyone

00:32:17.580 what she's

00:32:18.760 come to the

00:32:19.340 conclusion is

00:32:20.240 I don't

00:32:21.200 think these

00:32:22.360 big movements

00:32:23.540 actually do

00:32:24.740 anything.

00:32:26.260 I think

00:32:27.300 people actually

00:32:28.760 living it

00:32:29.880 and showing

00:32:31.380 it's not that

00:32:32.060 hard.

00:32:33.460 We'll change

00:32:34.580 things.

00:32:35.060 For instance,

00:32:36.620 the, the,

00:32:37.560 what's that

00:32:37.880 old, you

00:32:38.420 know, the

00:32:38.720 miracle burger

00:32:39.660 or impossible

00:32:40.380 burger, impossible

00:32:41.240 burger, that's

00:32:42.460 going to

00:32:43.000 change so

00:32:44.720 much because

00:32:45.640 it's actually

00:32:46.140 good creative

00:32:47.400 destruction, but

00:32:48.560 people like

00:32:49.420 Stu had to

00:32:50.080 eat those

00:32:50.540 crappy burgers

00:32:51.640 for a long

00:32:52.440 time.

00:32:53.260 Just 10

00:32:53.900 years, 10,

00:32:54.660 15 years.

00:32:55.420 That's it.

00:32:56.040 That's all.

00:32:56.540 It wasn't that

00:32:56.900 bad at all.

00:32:57.520 They finally

00:32:57.900 came out with

00:32:58.320 a good one.

00:32:58.940 So, right.

00:32:59.440 Well, I

00:32:59.580 think it's, it's

00:33:00.020 almost a point

00:33:00.820 and this goes

00:33:01.340 back to the

00:33:01.780 Obama era, early

00:33:02.780 Obama era in

00:33:04.280 that it's a

00:33:05.060 thought of a

00:33:05.820 difference between

00:33:06.620 salvation and

00:33:08.940 collective

00:33:09.360 salvation, right?

00:33:10.960 Like in, like

00:33:12.120 you, I think

00:33:14.040 that we always

00:33:14.700 think of

00:33:14.980 ourselves as

00:33:15.520 individuals and

00:33:16.260 you have to

00:33:16.620 do what you

00:33:17.140 believe is

00:33:17.620 right.

00:33:18.000 And like, you

00:33:19.240 know, there's a

00:33:19.960 lot of things

00:33:20.300 that I believe

00:33:20.820 that I, you

00:33:21.240 know, I'm not

00:33:21.460 going to sit

00:33:21.760 here and

00:33:22.000 evangelize for

00:33:22.840 because they

00:33:23.220 don't, no

00:33:23.420 one cares,

00:33:24.000 right?

00:33:24.280 Like, you know,

00:33:25.000 you, I mean,

00:33:25.660 I'll tell you if

00:33:26.280 you ask me, but

00:33:26.900 I mean, there's

00:33:27.720 a level of I'm

00:33:28.920 doing what I want

00:33:29.980 to do and

00:33:30.600 believe is right

00:33:31.420 because I believe

00:33:33.240 it's right.

00:33:33.620 Not because I'm

00:33:34.280 trying to influence

00:33:35.120 other people or

00:33:35.960 make a giant

00:33:37.220 societal change.

00:33:38.400 That's where

00:33:38.680 Hannah is.

00:33:39.300 Yeah.

00:33:39.560 And I think

00:33:40.060 that's a, I

00:33:40.560 think that's a

00:33:41.000 good place to

00:33:41.640 land.

00:33:41.900 I mean, I, you

00:33:42.820 can only do, you

00:33:44.080 can get obsessed

00:33:44.760 with this stuff

00:33:45.180 because if you

00:33:45.560 tried to, we

00:33:46.060 just joked about

00:33:46.760 it with like, you

00:33:47.140 can't buy something

00:33:47.620 on Amazon.

00:33:48.040 Imagine trying to

00:33:48.880 actually implement

00:33:50.420 a strategy that

00:33:52.380 you boycotted every

00:33:54.100 company that you

00:33:54.900 disagreed with.

00:33:55.620 We all know it's

00:33:56.180 undoable.

00:33:56.780 I'm not, I, if

00:33:57.760 you want to have a

00:33:58.220 boycotted, like if it

00:33:59.220 makes you feel like

00:33:59.980 you're doing something,

00:34:00.600 that's fine.

00:34:01.060 But I mean, like

00:34:01.780 it's impossible.

00:34:03.020 Like you would

00:34:03.960 never watch another

00:34:04.780 television show.

00:34:05.740 You would never

00:34:06.540 watch another movie.

00:34:09.060 You would not be

00:34:09.660 able to go, the

00:34:10.600 electricity company

00:34:12.300 you're doing business

00:34:13.020 with is probably

00:34:13.720 doing things that

00:34:14.420 violate your

00:34:14.980 interests.

00:34:15.740 You wouldn't do

00:34:16.760 anything.

00:34:17.260 You wouldn't do

00:34:17.520 anything.

00:34:18.640 You wouldn't have

00:34:19.860 a cell phone.

00:34:20.680 You wouldn't have

00:34:21.060 a cell phone.

00:34:21.480 Like the Patriot

00:34:22.040 Mobile ads we

00:34:22.780 talk about all the

00:34:23.560 time.

00:34:23.920 You wouldn't, unless

00:34:25.100 it's Patriot Mobile,

00:34:26.420 you would not have

00:34:27.020 cell service.

00:34:27.300 And unfortunately

00:34:27.700 there's not a

00:34:28.200 Patriot Mobile in

00:34:28.900 every category.

00:34:29.680 And you know what?

00:34:30.600 The Patriot Mobile

00:34:32.100 idea, here's a

00:34:33.020 great example.

00:34:33.600 Creative destruction.

00:34:34.320 Creative destruction

00:34:35.440 that people are

00:34:36.220 like, okay, well, I

00:34:37.540 don't know.

00:34:38.320 I've never heard of

00:34:39.220 you know where they

00:34:40.720 base this off of

00:34:42.580 something that was

00:34:43.580 started in California

00:34:44.880 that struggled for a

00:34:46.520 long time.

00:34:47.500 Same exact thing

00:34:49.020 that was like, we're

00:34:49.980 going to give some of

00:34:50.720 our profits to these

00:34:52.020 crazy progressive

00:34:53.100 groups.

00:34:53.880 And I didn't use

00:34:54.880 crazy.

00:34:55.440 Yeah, I know.

00:34:55.920 And so it, it, it

00:34:57.420 struggled for a long

00:34:58.580 time, then took

00:34:59.260 off and now is

00:35:00.540 actually influencing

00:35:01.940 elections for the

00:35:03.580 progressives.

00:35:04.540 And so these guys

00:35:05.740 got together and

00:35:06.360 went, why can't we

00:35:07.180 do that?

00:35:07.760 Well, they're just

00:35:08.220 going through their

00:35:09.120 growth stage.

00:35:10.140 Now, the same, same

00:35:11.920 way you just have to

00:35:13.740 live it.

00:35:14.440 You have to say, you

00:35:15.940 know what?

00:35:16.200 I'm willing to, I'm

00:35:17.580 willing to get the

00:35:18.380 same service.

00:35:19.880 I'm willing to get

00:35:21.020 all of the exact

00:35:22.680 same coverage and

00:35:24.060 everything else.

00:35:25.680 And I'm willing to

00:35:26.640 put up with the

00:35:27.820 switching over because

00:35:29.460 I'm tired of, that's

00:35:30.920 all you have to put

00:35:31.700 up, all you have to

00:35:32.460 put up with.

00:35:33.120 And that's a hard

00:35:34.160 sell for people, but

00:35:35.560 it's, even though

00:35:36.160 they made it really

00:35:36.760 easy.

00:35:37.260 I know.

00:35:37.600 And a lot of these

00:35:38.140 companies have done

00:35:39.060 the same thing, but

00:35:41.280 it's just hard to find

00:35:42.040 them.

00:35:42.220 And you just, a lot

00:35:43.660 of times you don't

00:35:44.200 know about, but when

00:35:45.360 you find them, you

00:35:46.800 need to use them.

00:35:47.860 If they really do

00:35:49.300 do the same service

00:35:51.100 or better, you, that's

00:35:53.840 the way you make an

00:35:54.660 impact.

00:35:55.700 Okay.

00:35:56.600 You got to support

00:35:57.660 the pioneers that are

00:35:59.280 doing the creative

00:36:00.240 destruction because

00:36:01.620 without the creative

00:36:03.220 destruction, without

00:36:04.220 the new ones coming

00:36:05.760 up, you're left with

00:36:07.360 nothing.

00:36:08.620 You're left with

00:36:09.560 nothing except a

00:36:10.980 losing boycott because

00:36:12.240 everybody's like, I'm

00:36:13.240 never gonna.

00:36:14.220 And they're doing it

00:36:15.480 the very next day

00:36:16.680 because it's, they

00:36:18.460 like it.

00:36:19.460 They like it.

00:36:20.420 If you believe in the

00:36:21.480 free market, then you

00:36:22.320 got to support the

00:36:23.660 free market.

00:36:25.060 You got to find

00:36:26.300 those, those

00:36:27.540 entrepreneurs that

00:36:28.600 are doing it and

00:36:29.740 then just quietly use

00:36:31.620 them.

00:36:32.120 I will tell you, my

00:36:33.140 daughter has talked

00:36:34.000 me into a lot of

00:36:35.060 things, not by saying

00:36:36.340 a word, just by

00:36:38.440 going, you gotta be

00:36:39.380 kidding me.

00:36:39.880 Really?

00:36:40.640 This you got and

00:36:41.780 it's cheaper and it

00:36:43.580 tastes like this or it

00:36:44.640 does this or really

00:36:46.460 and it doesn't have

00:36:47.400 any of these bad

00:36:48.320 effects.

00:36:49.520 Wow.

00:36:51.140 Okay.

00:36:51.620 I'm in.

00:36:53.160 That's a really good

00:36:54.660 thing.

00:36:56.080 Solar energy.

00:36:57.520 Once solar energy

00:36:58.680 starts to come down

00:36:59.840 in price, we'll all

00:37:01.500 be solar energy nuts.

00:37:03.860 As long as it works

00:37:05.200 and it's reliable.

00:37:06.020 Exactly right.

00:37:07.100 Yeah.

00:37:07.240 That's the only, we

00:37:08.020 don't hate the

00:37:08.680 environment.

00:37:09.380 It just doesn't work.

00:37:10.960 We don't hate

00:37:11.880 Christian movies.

00:37:13.020 They just have sucked

00:37:14.420 for so long.

00:37:16.000 Well, once they start

00:37:17.320 to be good and they

00:37:18.380 are, I'm there.

00:37:20.260 I'm absolutely there.

00:37:22.080 Yep.

00:37:23.060 Pat, thank you.

00:37:23.660 Proved with unplanned

00:37:24.440 and breakthrough, by the

00:37:25.200 way.

00:37:25.440 Yeah.

00:37:25.800 Yeah.

00:37:26.020 That's a proven

00:37:26.560 theory.

00:37:27.700 Thank you so much.

00:37:28.620 Really well.

00:37:29.480 Pat Gray, Pat Gray

00:37:30.360 Unleashed, get to

00:37:31.280 wherever you get your

00:37:32.280 podcasts.

00:37:32.940 All right.

00:37:33.220 I want to talk to you

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00:37:41.720 ever endorsed or will

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00:37:44.440 them for a long time

00:37:45.300 in the buildup to the

00:37:46.380 crash of 08, uh, because

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00:38:50.400 We have to talk about

00:38:51.480 this.

00:38:52.000 Um, if we can have

00:38:53.520 time, we have Bill

00:38:54.080 O'Reilly coming up in

00:38:55.000 just a minute, but we'll

00:38:55.720 have to come back to

00:38:56.300 this.

00:38:56.600 We're just talking

00:38:57.460 about being authentic

00:38:58.840 and being honest.

00:39:00.520 Uh, and Stu brought

00:39:02.460 up about my daughter.

00:39:03.620 She's not doing it for

00:39:04.900 any other reason, just

00:39:05.960 herself.

00:39:06.740 She just wants to be

00:39:07.780 that.

00:39:08.960 Uh, and it's a

00:39:11.140 struggle that I think

00:39:11.860 a lot of us, uh, go

00:39:13.200 through.

00:39:13.580 You know, why do you

00:39:14.160 buy Nike?

00:39:14.840 Because you want to

00:39:15.460 join that tribe.

00:39:17.160 Because it says

00:39:18.120 something about you.

00:39:19.720 Oh, what does that

00:39:20.860 even mean?

00:39:22.520 Um, you know what

00:39:23.400 says something about

00:39:24.140 you?

00:39:24.580 Your actions.

00:39:26.000 Not what you say,

00:39:27.180 but what you do and

00:39:28.040 how you live your life.

00:39:29.740 Uh, and I think

00:39:30.660 that's a growing

00:39:32.260 trend of what people

00:39:34.060 want to be.

00:39:34.640 The fusion of

00:39:38.380 entertainment and

00:39:39.740 enlightenment.

00:39:41.000 Yes.

00:39:42.160 And it has been, uh,

00:39:43.660 it's been too long

00:39:44.740 since I've talked to

00:39:45.500 my friend, Mr. Bill

00:39:46.640 O'Reilly, who joins

00:39:48.120 us with a view at

00:39:50.460 40,000 feet on what

00:39:53.140 the news of the week

00:39:54.460 has even meant in

00:39:56.540 one minute.

00:39:57.520 This is the

00:39:58.800 Glenn Beck program.

00:39:59.700 Uh, you know, I

00:40:04.520 want to tell you

00:40:05.120 about our sponsor.

00:40:05.900 You know, let us

00:40:06.380 bring Bill in on

00:40:07.140 this, uh, because

00:40:08.280 our sponsor is, uh,

00:40:09.680 cruise through

00:40:10.140 history.

00:40:10.640 Bill, how are you?

00:40:12.640 Um, I'm, uh,

00:40:13.820 getting ready for my

00:40:14.680 cruise and I'm

00:40:15.520 learning how to

00:40:16.100 swim.

00:40:16.880 Right.

00:40:17.360 I'm doing all

00:40:18.080 kinds of great

00:40:18.660 stuff.

00:40:19.560 Um, you actually

00:40:20.980 are excited to go to

00:40:22.640 the, to Croatia,

00:40:23.940 right?

00:40:25.140 Yeah.

00:40:25.780 Um, my son is

00:40:27.520 fixated on Croatia.

00:40:28.860 Don't ask me why

00:40:30.000 he's got their soccer

00:40:31.180 Jersey and, uh, the

00:40:33.240 kid is all Irish, but,

00:40:34.680 uh, he'd like for

00:40:35.620 some reason likes a

00:40:36.440 Balkan.

00:40:36.960 So we're going to

00:40:37.460 dump him in Dubrovnik

00:40:38.520 and it is, it's, it's

00:40:41.260 strange.

00:40:41.720 My son is into, uh,

00:40:43.680 Scotland and he's got

00:40:45.360 the Scottish jerseys.

00:40:46.780 And I mean, it's

00:40:47.440 crazy anyway, he's not

00:40:48.840 wearing the, uh, the

00:40:50.040 kilt though, right?

00:40:51.260 Oh, he would if I get

00:40:53.760 one, he would.

00:40:55.880 Um, so anyway, we're

00:40:57.020 doing this, uh, big

00:40:57.900 cruise next, uh, spring.

00:40:59.960 And the reason why I

00:41:00.920 invited, uh, Bill and

00:41:02.560 Rabbi Lappin and also

00:41:03.860 David Barton is because

00:41:05.240 we're all history

00:41:06.000 minded and we're going

00:41:07.720 to, uh, Venice.

00:41:09.320 We're going to, uh,

00:41:11.520 Croatia, which you're

00:41:12.740 going to have to help

00:41:13.220 me on the history of

00:41:13.920 that.

00:41:14.420 Um, it's just a

00:41:15.580 beautiful place to

00:41:16.340 go.

00:41:16.880 Uh, also, uh, Athens

00:41:18.980 and Greece.

00:41:19.800 So you're going to be

00:41:20.680 able to talk about

00:41:22.040 what a Republic is,

00:41:23.420 what, uh, what's the

00:41:25.400 difference between a

00:41:26.060 Republican and democracy?

00:41:27.500 What happened in the

00:41:28.460 dark ages and who

00:41:29.460 brought us out of the

00:41:30.340 dark ages and what our

00:41:31.480 religion means when we

00:41:32.800 get to Israel, it's

00:41:34.100 going to be an amazing

00:41:35.000 cruise.

00:41:36.120 Uh, and, uh, Bill's

00:41:37.700 going to be there.

00:41:38.300 I'm going to be there.

00:41:40.100 Stu is going to be a

00:41:41.300 everything.

00:41:41.680 We're using him as a

00:41:42.520 life raft.

00:41:43.780 Thanks.

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00:42:14.880 All right, Mr. Bill

00:42:15.420 O'Reilly.

00:42:16.520 Welcome.

00:42:17.180 I'm here.

00:42:17.960 Yes.

00:42:18.260 It sounds great.

00:42:21.540 I haven't talked to you

00:42:22.120 in quite a while and it

00:42:23.060 sounds like you're just

00:42:24.120 just brimming with things

00:42:25.820 to say.

00:42:26.780 Where you been back?

00:42:27.940 Nobody knows where you

00:42:28.920 went.

00:42:29.680 Uh, wouldn't you like to

00:42:31.980 know?

00:42:32.720 Uh, I really won't, but I,

00:42:34.300 uh, I hope you had a good

00:42:35.680 time and I hope you're

00:42:36.500 relaxed and, uh, didn't

00:42:37.980 frighten anyone.

00:42:39.740 No, I didn't frighten

00:42:40.400 anybody.

00:42:40.760 Okay.

00:42:41.020 So, so Bill, tell me what's

00:42:43.620 the most important story of

00:42:45.060 the week?

00:42:45.420 The most important story

00:42:47.720 of the week is that due

00:42:50.000 process in America is

00:42:53.160 once again under siege and

00:42:56.400 this affects every single

00:42:57.760 person.

00:42:58.260 And I'm trying to be the

00:42:59.620 Paul Revere guy here to

00:43:01.220 spread the word that

00:43:02.300 somehow, and I really

00:43:04.200 don't explain, I can't

00:43:05.440 really explain it other

00:43:06.500 than blame it on the

00:43:07.400 media.

00:43:08.260 Um, you know, we don't

00:43:10.020 respect the presumption of

00:43:12.200 innocence anymore.

00:43:13.100 So I was talking even at

00:43:14.180 the highest levels of

00:43:15.240 government.

00:43:15.680 Uh, I was talking to a

00:43:16.480 federal judge while I was

00:43:17.540 on a vacation and, um, he

00:43:19.960 said, we judges need to

00:43:22.980 start coming out and

00:43:23.740 hammering our own.

00:43:24.640 He said, I am seeing

00:43:25.760 things now come across my

00:43:27.340 bench.

00:43:27.820 He said, where the

00:43:29.000 constitution, the law,

00:43:31.480 nothing, nothing has gone

00:43:34.140 into this decision except

00:43:35.900 what that judge felt was

00:43:38.480 the right thing.

00:43:39.560 And he said, we're

00:43:41.100 developing a country that

00:43:42.380 is, is being ruled by

00:43:44.200 feelings alone.

00:43:45.440 And the rule of law is

00:43:47.340 completely going out the

00:43:48.920 window.

00:43:49.460 And I think that's what it

00:43:50.900 is, is where it's just,

00:43:52.380 we do it.

00:43:52.880 We only care about how

00:43:54.620 people feel and what I

00:43:56.320 feel and what feels right.

00:43:58.620 Yeah.

00:43:59.360 Well, I think it's a, it's a

00:44:00.920 dual, uh, problem.

00:44:03.080 You got, you've got the

00:44:03.960 activist judges and

00:44:04.980 everybody knows that, um,

00:44:07.100 that any kind of an

00:44:08.840 abortion, uh, question or

00:44:11.320 challenge, you, you know,

00:44:13.320 there's four people on the

00:44:14.500 Supreme court that are

00:44:15.320 going to rule in favor of

00:44:16.420 abortion, no matter what

00:44:18.100 it is.

00:44:19.180 And that's wrong.

00:44:20.380 Of course, the other side,

00:44:22.200 you don't really know.

00:44:23.440 You really don't know.

00:44:24.860 Uh, you know, Clarence

00:44:26.600 Thomas, I think would be the

00:44:27.980 most reliable against

00:44:29.120 anything abortion, but the

00:44:30.700 others, you don't really

00:44:31.540 know.

00:44:32.160 Right.

00:44:32.280 But what I'm talking

00:44:33.500 about is the, uh, Mueller,

00:44:34.960 um, he sits there, he

00:44:38.120 comes out, he sits there

00:44:39.200 and this was all about

00:44:40.840 cocktail parties.

00:44:41.760 I'll explain that in a

00:44:42.700 moment.

00:44:43.380 But the Mueller thing, he

00:44:45.320 comes out, he goes, you

00:44:46.060 know, I'm a prosecutor.

00:44:47.760 That's what I was hired to

00:44:48.980 do.

00:44:49.880 And I, and I investigated

00:44:51.180 two years alleged, uh,

00:44:53.840 crimes and I really don't

00:44:56.260 have any evidence.

00:44:58.040 And I wrote a report for

00:44:59.660 almost 500 pages that

00:45:00.940 says, I don't really have

00:45:02.720 any evidence.

00:45:03.360 I mean, there were

00:45:03.980 occurrences that things

00:45:07.200 that happened, but nothing

00:45:09.300 that I can say was, uh, a

00:45:13.300 criminal referral as

00:45:14.720 judge started with bill

00:45:17.340 Clinton 11 times, but I

00:45:18.940 don't have anything.

00:45:20.860 So instead of just saying

00:45:22.480 good night, everyone,

00:45:23.360 thank you.

00:45:24.400 I'll, um, see you, uh,

00:45:26.840 down the road.

00:45:28.160 No, then he has to pivot

00:45:30.120 and say, but my

00:45:32.760 investigators can't say

00:45:34.720 president Trump didn't do

00:45:36.260 anything wrong.

00:45:37.380 Right.

00:45:38.040 That is so outrageous.

00:45:40.400 That's not his job.

00:45:42.000 That's the job of CNN.

00:45:43.180 That's their job.

00:45:44.500 Okay.

00:45:45.280 Not Mueller's job.

00:45:47.260 And what Mueller did was

00:45:48.740 he denied a fellow American

00:45:50.300 who happens to be the

00:45:51.120 president due process.

00:45:52.540 Well, he, he cloaked it.

00:45:53.860 He cloaked it.

00:45:54.980 It was really fascinating.

00:45:56.300 He cloaked it in the

00:45:58.420 reason why I didn't say

00:46:00.840 that he was guilty of a

00:46:02.560 crime is because there's

00:46:05.100 no due process for him.

00:46:06.740 So I care about due

00:46:08.940 process.

00:46:09.580 And in, because I

00:46:11.900 couldn't bring up a

00:46:12.780 criminal charge, I'm not

00:46:14.560 going to say he committed

00:46:15.700 these crimes because then

00:46:17.140 there was nowhere to go

00:46:18.280 with it.

00:46:18.740 So, but that's false.

00:46:21.420 That's false.

00:46:22.240 I mean, you saw the

00:46:23.600 star report and, and

00:46:26.140 yes, they have, uh,

00:46:27.980 clarified what can and

00:46:29.300 can't happen to a sitting

00:46:30.240 president, but you can

00:46:31.160 still refer, you can

00:46:33.480 refer.

00:46:34.180 And then when Donald

00:46:35.640 Trump leaves office, then

00:46:37.160 he has to answer.

00:46:38.600 Well, but not only that,

00:46:39.740 we all know, by the way,

00:46:41.380 we all know that if he

00:46:43.780 said, uh, that there was

00:46:45.500 a crime committed, then

00:46:47.280 we know the process is

00:46:49.440 then turn it over to

00:46:51.060 Congress and he'll be

00:46:52.040 impeached.

00:46:52.940 So the question is, or

00:46:55.220 convene a grand jury.

00:46:56.540 Correct.

00:46:56.800 The problem here is, is

00:46:58.300 why did we do this?

00:47:00.640 If the answer was, well,

00:47:02.600 I can't tell you if a

00:47:03.680 crime was committed or

00:47:04.580 not.

00:47:05.180 That wasn't the answer.

00:47:06.140 He just made it up.

00:47:07.800 He just made it up.

00:47:10.620 All right.

00:47:11.220 That gave him cover.

00:47:13.720 All right.

00:47:14.360 So then let's get to the

00:47:15.720 real reason he did this.

00:47:17.280 So he's a swamp

00:47:18.840 creature, right?

00:47:19.820 Robert Mueller.

00:47:20.680 Would everybody agree

00:47:21.480 with that?

00:47:22.020 Stu, are you still awake

00:47:23.080 here?

00:47:23.540 Would you agree?

00:47:24.280 Barely, but yes, I

00:47:24.880 would.

00:47:25.480 Mueller is a swamp

00:47:26.660 creature.

00:47:27.140 That means he makes his

00:47:28.180 living in the Washington,

00:47:30.140 D.C. bureaucracy and

00:47:31.580 always has.

00:47:32.740 Okay.

00:47:34.200 So he issues a report

00:47:36.140 that said basically

00:47:36.860 exonerates Donald

00:47:38.460 Trump who the swamp

00:47:39.360 wants to kill.

00:47:41.100 All right.

00:47:41.660 And so all his swamp

00:47:43.180 friends, they don't like

00:47:45.420 that.

00:47:46.660 So all of a sudden,

00:47:48.060 all the cocktail

00:47:49.560 parties and the

00:47:50.740 barbecues and the

00:47:52.380 country club, I'll meet

00:47:53.940 you.

00:47:54.580 We'll have a drink.

00:47:55.620 We'll have a little

00:47:56.300 dinner.

00:47:57.000 That all stops.

00:47:59.260 And he's got to get

00:48:00.240 it back.

00:48:01.620 And that's why he did

00:48:02.580 what he did.

00:48:05.260 Now, hang on, hang on.

00:48:07.180 You're crazy, O'Reilly.

00:48:08.460 This, that, and the other

00:48:09.100 thing.

00:48:09.280 I'm, this is the primary

00:48:11.180 motivator for the liberal

00:48:15.460 elite in America, socializing,

00:48:19.140 being accepted at the highest

00:48:21.140 levels, being seen in the

00:48:23.600 salons.

00:48:25.560 That, that is everything to

00:48:27.660 them.

00:48:28.580 So I was never invited

00:48:30.480 anywhere.

00:48:31.360 Never.

00:48:31.660 So we have to throw that in

00:48:33.040 that we're jealous.

00:48:33.980 So, so Bill, let me ask you,

00:48:36.260 let me ask you what it's

00:48:37.260 about.

00:48:37.840 Let me ask you this.

00:48:38.620 I think you're absolutely

00:48:40.000 right.

00:48:40.560 In fact, I know you're right

00:48:41.640 on this.

00:48:42.300 Thank you.

00:48:42.740 And I know how intoxicating

00:48:46.380 that is, that when you are,

00:48:49.560 when you're offered the

00:48:51.080 opportunity to be part of the

00:48:53.640 cool kid table, we all know

00:48:56.060 this from high school, it's

00:48:57.840 enormously hard not to turn

00:49:00.520 your back on that one weirdo

00:49:02.660 friend that you've had that you

00:49:03.980 actually really like, but is

00:49:06.060 really unpopular when the

00:49:07.980 popular kids want to try to

00:49:10.280 include you in their club.

00:49:13.100 That's the mean girl

00:49:14.060 syndrome.

00:49:14.900 Exactly.

00:49:15.380 And you know, it, it gets to

00:49:17.780 the point where this infects

00:49:20.380 and that's the word

00:49:21.300 politicians, judges,

00:49:24.580 especially news people on

00:49:26.980 television.

00:49:28.120 Oh my God.

00:49:29.500 They live for that invitation.

00:49:32.380 And it infects them so that

00:49:35.500 they can't be fair anymore.

00:49:37.900 They have to tilt over to the

00:49:39.720 cool kids.

00:49:40.440 And that's what this Mueller

00:49:42.180 thing was all about.

00:49:43.520 Now, do we have time for me to

00:49:45.820 tell you about the phone call I

00:49:47.440 got from President Trump the

00:49:48.800 night Mueller gave his

00:49:49.900 address?

00:49:51.280 Yes.

00:49:51.720 Let me take one minute break

00:49:53.020 and then we'll come back with

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00:51:34.060 We break for 10 seconds.

00:51:35.200 Station ID.

00:51:35.660 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:51:51.600 Bill O'Reilly.

00:51:52.740 You got a phone call from Donald

00:51:54.580 Trump.

00:51:55.700 Yes, because I'm wrapping up the

00:51:58.580 United States of Trump.

00:51:59.860 My book, my history book on him.

00:52:02.000 That'll be out on September

00:52:05.540 24th.

00:52:06.360 And I needed to get one more

00:52:08.900 interview with the president,

00:52:12.340 particularly after the Mueller

00:52:14.320 thing, the report and all of that.

00:52:16.760 So, you know, he's not real

00:52:19.080 thrilled about this book anyway.

00:52:21.000 Donald Trump is not because it

00:52:23.140 goes way back and traces his whole

00:52:26.620 life and then explains how he did

00:52:28.780 this amazing thing and how he's

00:52:30.760 sitting in the White House and who

00:52:32.280 he really is and how he feels

00:52:33.800 about his country.

00:52:34.740 Really?

00:52:35.900 OK, so he doesn't know.

00:52:38.080 He knows me a long time and he

00:52:39.700 knows I'm going to tell the truth.

00:52:42.040 But he calls me.

00:52:43.440 All right.

00:52:43.780 And it was nice of him to do it

00:52:45.340 because I'm badgering his PR

00:52:47.400 people going, look, I need to get

00:52:49.900 a final interview with him to wrap

00:52:52.120 this book.

00:52:53.300 And he calls me about 1015 at night

00:52:56.580 Eastern time.

00:52:57.500 You know, while Bill, are you still

00:52:58.980 up? I said, I'm like you, I'm a

00:53:00.540 vampire and never sleep.

00:53:02.760 So I talked to him and the Mueller

00:53:06.100 thing comes right up because that's

00:53:08.620 what I wanted him.

00:53:09.640 My basic question to the president

00:53:12.240 was, since you have gone through

00:53:15.760 this for three years, being pounded

00:53:18.620 into pudding by the media and

00:53:20.180 investigated and this, that and the

00:53:21.980 other thing, has your opinion of

00:53:23.600 America changed?

00:53:25.240 Now, I'm not going to give you his

00:53:26.400 answer because I'm I have it in the

00:53:28.360 book, but I'm going to tell you that

00:53:31.120 he wailed on Mueller and he said

00:53:34.220 that Mueller is hates him, uses that

00:53:37.000 word.

00:53:37.320 He goes, Mueller hates me.

00:53:38.740 And I said, why would it?

00:53:40.020 Why would he hate you?

00:53:41.700 And President Trump said, because when

00:53:44.880 I fired Comey, Mueller called me and

00:53:47.220 asked for Comey's job as head of the

00:53:48.960 FBI.

00:53:49.300 And I said, no, but it goes on back

00:53:53.480 further.

00:53:54.140 The president told me that he was in

00:53:57.020 one of my golf clubs on the Potomac

00:53:58.960 River and he was going to move out of

00:54:00.940 the neighborhood and wanted his

00:54:02.300 deposit back.

00:54:04.320 And I wouldn't give it to him because

00:54:05.740 if I did that, I have to give it to

00:54:07.320 everybody.

00:54:08.820 And I said, how much was he?

00:54:10.020 He goes, $15,000.

00:54:12.060 And I said, Mueller called you and you

00:54:14.140 took the call.

00:54:14.740 He goes, yeah, I talked to him and it

00:54:15.780 was a, quote, nasty conversation.

00:54:21.920 And that and he said that Mueller hates

00:54:23.800 me.

00:54:24.000 He's always hated me.

00:54:24.900 And that's now why he did what he did

00:54:27.800 today.

00:54:28.080 OK, so let me let me ask you this

00:54:29.600 question.

00:54:29.980 Hear that.

00:54:30.400 Let me play devil's advocate.

00:54:32.240 OK.

00:54:32.760 The president has a pattern of saying

00:54:37.680 somebody called me for a job.

00:54:40.220 Somebody called me for help.

00:54:42.260 And it's not always true.

00:54:45.780 OK, well, what do you want me to do?

00:54:48.100 Put him on a live attack?

00:54:49.420 Well, I just want to say what he said

00:54:51.560 to me.

00:54:52.120 Right.

00:54:52.320 What I want to know is true or not.

00:54:54.280 Is it that that's I don't know.

00:54:56.400 How can you check it?

00:54:58.520 But the fact that he's saying he would

00:55:00.400 look, let's put it this way.

00:55:02.520 I've known him 30 years.

00:55:04.080 He's never told me a falsehood

00:55:06.700 directly to me.

00:55:08.680 OK, ever.

00:55:10.140 Because I mean, that's all I can tell

00:55:11.620 you, Bill, am I incorrect in

00:55:13.760 believing that this is somewhat

00:55:15.660 big breaking news?

00:55:17.240 Like, like this did.

00:55:17.880 Was this known before this phone call?

00:55:19.580 Like I did.

00:55:20.080 I had never heard the story.

00:55:21.820 The FBI job on Bill O'Reilly dot

00:55:24.640 com, which is the premier

00:55:27.220 website, political website in the

00:55:29.480 country.

00:55:29.880 I'm a member.

00:55:30.400 I know.

00:55:30.660 Yeah.

00:55:30.820 I did.

00:55:31.600 I did do that.

00:55:32.940 I'm a member.

00:55:33.700 But I always want to give you

00:55:36.040 and back, you know, some good

00:55:37.320 stuff for your audience.

00:55:38.400 And I believe they're interested

00:55:40.980 in that.

00:55:41.940 All right.

00:55:43.300 So, Bill, what happens?

00:55:46.400 What happens now?

00:55:47.680 I mean, you were you were here for

00:55:49.300 the impeachment of, you know, of

00:55:51.940 Lincoln's successor.

00:55:54.280 And you went through you went

00:55:56.640 through Watergate and and with

00:55:59.940 Clinton.

00:56:01.120 What what what do we what is

00:56:05.020 Congress going to do now?

00:56:06.460 Start their own hearings?

00:56:08.400 I don't think so, but I could

00:56:11.400 be wrong.

00:56:12.220 Oh, I hate saying that.

00:56:13.700 Oh, it's so painful.

00:56:15.480 Could be wrong, but I don't

00:56:17.980 think so.

00:56:19.060 Why?

00:56:19.960 Because the independent voters,

00:56:22.140 if you look at the polling.

00:56:23.520 Yeah.

00:56:24.180 Most Americans do not want this

00:56:26.160 dog and pony impeachment show

00:56:27.800 based upon what we know now,

00:56:30.280 which is you don't really have

00:56:31.580 anything and the Senate will

00:56:33.200 never convict.

00:56:34.300 So why put the country through

00:56:36.080 this when we have vexing

00:56:37.900 problems that need to be solved

00:56:39.500 and you're not solving them.

00:56:40.980 You're not even trying to solve

00:56:42.500 them.

00:56:43.360 So that's Americans.

00:56:44.600 They want Congress to solve

00:56:46.840 problems.

00:56:47.480 OK, to put the country in a

00:56:50.500 more prosperous position.

00:56:53.140 And you don't do that when you're

00:56:55.640 drumming up impeachment stuff.

00:56:58.320 So the only people that are going

00:56:59.920 to prosper from that are cable TV

00:57:02.360 news.

00:57:03.440 That's all.

00:57:04.960 And I think that the Democrats

00:57:07.340 really are fearful

00:57:09.000 that if they do this,

00:57:12.060 independent voters will turn on the

00:57:13.960 party.

00:57:14.500 They'll lose the House.

00:57:16.100 They'll lose that.

00:57:17.000 They'll never get the Senate back

00:57:19.260 and then Trump will be reelected.

00:57:21.180 So I think that's an

00:57:22.200 overarching fear.

00:57:23.140 I said this the day that

00:57:26.140 Mueller came out and I said,

00:57:29.060 don't don't fear impeachment

00:57:31.600 hearings, because I think that

00:57:34.820 works against.

00:57:36.040 And in fact, if the economy

00:57:38.100 starts to go down, I think that

00:57:40.580 actually would strengthen the

00:57:42.540 president if they were in

00:57:43.560 impeachment hearings, because I

00:57:44.780 remember, Bill, you know, this is

00:57:46.640 before the blue dress came out.

00:57:48.100 And I thought that Bill Clinton

00:57:49.980 absolutely did all of those

00:57:51.620 things and was lying.

00:57:52.960 But there was this moment when he

00:57:54.760 said, I did not have sex

00:57:56.980 with her, not one time.

00:57:58.640 And I didn't tell anybody to lie.

00:58:01.160 And I've got to get back to work

00:58:03.020 for the American people.

00:58:04.200 There was even a part in me that

00:58:06.440 said, wow, I mean, this is I

00:58:10.000 mean, we do have other

00:58:11.280 priorities.

00:58:12.380 And I caught myself and I'm like,

00:58:13.980 wait, wait, wait.

00:58:14.780 But I think if the economy, which

00:58:16.880 has gone so well, if the economy

00:58:19.200 was going and having problems

00:58:21.000 and they were focused on

00:58:22.560 impeachment, I think that it

00:58:24.900 actually could turn around

00:58:26.880 because Trump would be saying

00:58:28.600 this is nonsense.

00:58:30.240 You've known it's nonsense.

00:58:32.240 And everything that we have to

00:58:34.780 work on, they got me so tied down

00:58:37.760 on this impeachment stuff.

00:58:39.540 I can't do the things I need to

00:58:41.800 do.

00:58:42.000 So I think it actually would

00:58:43.360 really, really hurt them.

00:58:45.880 Yeah.

00:58:46.180 I mean, that's the fear of Nancy

00:58:47.880 Pelosi and a Democratic Party.

00:58:49.520 The other thing is that the cable

00:58:51.100 news ratings this week have not

00:58:53.140 been strong, which has surprised

00:58:56.580 me.

00:58:57.180 I mean, in general, they are

00:58:58.760 deteriorating.

00:59:00.100 The cable news networks are losing

00:59:01.600 viewers and substantially.

00:59:03.620 But I figured, well, this week, you

00:59:05.360 know, with all of the stuff going

00:59:07.580 on, you know, they're going to

00:59:10.880 really go through, you know, go up

00:59:14.640 because Mueller and everything like

00:59:16.000 that.

00:59:16.240 Well, racial matter is getting

00:59:17.860 hammered.

00:59:19.520 This week.

00:59:21.360 They're not doing well.

00:59:23.700 Demographically, they're all getting

00:59:25.020 killed.

00:59:26.140 Last night, I had these numbers right

00:59:27.580 in front of me.

00:59:28.080 I'm reading them.

00:59:29.360 Not one cable news show did more

00:59:31.300 than a half million, 25 to 54

00:59:33.480 viewers.

00:59:34.720 Not one?

00:59:35.260 Not one.

00:59:37.680 That's that means the folks have had

00:59:39.940 enough.

00:59:41.720 Enough.

00:59:43.120 Oh, my gosh.

00:59:45.240 Yeah.

00:59:45.420 The two entities that Americans are

00:59:48.860 walking away from right now are the

00:59:51.240 Russian collusion Mueller and

00:59:53.540 Godzilla.

00:59:54.920 Enough with Godzilla.

00:59:56.240 All right.

00:59:56.600 I will take you on.

00:59:57.820 I will take you on and take you down

01:00:01.220 for that.

01:00:02.020 See how many monsters have to wreck

01:00:05.720 San Francisco?

01:00:07.160 Never enough.

01:00:08.740 There are never enough.

01:00:11.760 The Godzilla.

01:00:12.760 I mean, look, I grew up making fun of

01:00:14.880 Godzilla.

01:00:15.580 I used to watch them for fun on

01:00:17.200 Saturday.

01:00:17.920 You were the guy in the rubber suit.

01:00:19.180 I would have loved to have been the

01:00:21.300 guy in the rubber suit.

01:00:22.340 They've always been horrible.

01:00:23.720 But the last one and this one look

01:00:26.220 tremendous.

01:00:27.660 You're not going to see Godzilla this

01:00:29.600 week?

01:00:30.580 Are you nuts?

01:00:32.040 I mean, you were buying Matthew

01:00:35.520 Broderick was running away from a

01:00:37.720 lizard?

01:00:38.160 No, no, no.

01:00:38.820 Not the Matthew Broderick.

01:00:40.200 That's two.

01:00:40.800 That's two.

01:00:41.200 That's two.

01:00:42.640 The one before this one.

01:00:44.600 I can't keep tracking him back.

01:00:46.920 Oh, yeah.

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01:02:23.880 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:02:25.900 Hello America.

01:02:26.960 It's Friday.

01:02:28.400 Uh, we have bill O'Reilly on bill.

01:02:31.320 Let's, let's, uh, go to Louisiana, uh, where

01:02:34.560 the governor of Louisiana has just signed a

01:02:37.040 major abortion bill.

01:02:38.380 He's a Democrat.

01:02:39.460 I want to talk to you a little bit about the

01:02:41.440 abortion bills that are being passed and how

01:02:43.960 the, how Hollywood is saying we won't do

01:02:46.120 business in Georgia or any other of these

01:02:48.880 States.

01:02:50.000 Your thoughts.

01:02:50.900 Well, it's, um, very difficult situation in

01:02:59.460 the sense that this is a very personal

01:03:03.140 decision and I don't believe it's framed

01:03:09.320 properly by the press so that Americans

01:03:14.240 understand that it really is a life and death

01:03:16.920 situation.

01:03:17.740 You don't ever hear that.

01:03:20.240 And that's the way I frame it.

01:03:21.760 So you're going to be terminating a fetus

01:03:26.640 who's not going to be able to have life.

01:03:28.760 And that's what abortion is.

01:03:30.760 And that's why the vast majority of American

01:03:33.300 doctors will not perform the operation.

01:03:36.240 Um, okay.

01:03:37.800 But then you have extenuating circumstances

01:03:40.600 where violence is, uh, used on women and, uh,

01:03:44.000 you have catastrophic health problems and, um,

01:03:48.240 you have babies that, uh, are going to be born

01:03:51.280 in a, in a way that would make it almost impossible

01:03:53.860 for them to live, um, in a, in a natural way.

01:03:58.120 So I, I believe that good people of conscience

01:04:03.280 and, and people who really understand that life is the

01:04:07.560 most precious thing on this planet, human life can sit

01:04:10.840 down and write bills that are humanitarian, but at the

01:04:16.140 same time protect innocent life.

01:04:18.520 I think it can be done, but it's been so politicized

01:04:22.100 and so, uh, drawn into the hateful realm

01:04:25.700 by the reproductive rights.

01:04:27.720 And if you are pro-life, you're anti-women

01:04:30.300 and all of this horrible, horrible, um, discourse

01:04:35.240 that it's depressing.

01:04:37.720 Now, the United States is, is one country,

01:04:41.800 but it's a, it's a bunch of different areas.

01:04:44.940 So in the South, it's a much more conservative

01:04:48.620 social spectrum than it is in Los Angeles.

01:04:51.580 Everybody knows that.

01:04:53.500 I, I resent Disney and Comcast and all these people

01:04:58.540 injecting themselves into this debate on an economic

01:05:02.280 basis because this is what is happening.

01:05:05.540 Now we'll boycott you if we don't like your political

01:05:07.720 position rather than trying to bring people together.

01:05:10.860 Why can't Disney hold a forum for the best minds

01:05:14.660 in the country to discuss this situation and come up

01:05:19.580 with rational ways to deal with it?

01:05:22.000 Why can't the Disney corporation do that?

01:05:25.220 Why would the Disney corporation do that?

01:05:27.460 I mean, I don't want a corporate, I mean, I don't

01:05:29.840 want a, I'm tired of these good do-gooders.

01:05:31.840 It's not an imposition on you, Glenn Beck.

01:05:34.560 It's a think tank.

01:05:36.660 Do you want another think tank from the people of

01:05:39.480 Disney?

01:05:40.520 I want a good movie from Disney.

01:05:42.080 I would like to have discussions, all right, among

01:05:46.460 people of goodwill to come up with a framework where

01:05:51.460 we can deal with the subject of abortion in a way that

01:05:56.480 protects life.

01:05:58.000 Here's what, here's, here's, here's the framework.

01:06:00.740 Here's the framework.

01:06:01.540 That there is, that is a baby.

01:06:06.240 At some point, that is a baby.

01:06:08.500 And we might disagree on when that's a baby or not, but, you

01:06:12.380 know, I wouldn't disagree on it.

01:06:13.840 Well, hang on just a second.

01:06:14.540 Because I believe that that human DNA is present on

01:06:19.180 conception.

01:06:19.980 Okay.

01:06:20.600 And that, that's a fact.

01:06:21.760 So it is life right there.

01:06:22.860 Okay.

01:06:23.060 All right.

01:06:23.360 So I happen to agree with you.

01:06:27.440 I have been in, instead of, you know, a guy who said, yes, with

01:06:32.960 exceptions of rape and incest, because I don't want to, but I'm

01:06:35.760 not comfortable with that anymore.

01:06:37.180 I'm going more and more uncomfortable with that every day.

01:06:40.100 Murder is murder.

01:06:41.100 It doesn't matter how it happened.

01:06:42.320 Um, and it's my compassion that has always left that door kind of

01:06:47.900 open, but I don't think that that's right.

01:06:50.740 However, I think there, I think there are people with, um, good

01:06:56.260 intent and they're honestly thinking about it.

01:06:59.400 They can say, all right, well, the heartbeat or until it's, uh, until

01:07:04.280 it's viable, which I don't buy into at all, but they're still good

01:07:09.020 people.

01:07:09.580 And the way to deal with this is to continue to have conversation and

01:07:14.140 continue to look at research and just not condemn those people of

01:07:20.240 good conscience.

01:07:20.960 But you can't include, you can't do that anymore because you're not

01:07:26.120 hearing reality when people say, well, that's not even a baby until

01:07:29.900 mom decides it's a baby.

01:07:31.120 It's not a baby.

01:07:31.740 That's just ridiculous that you're a science denier.

01:07:34.960 You're an absolute science denier.

01:07:37.320 And I can't have a conversation with you because you're not being honest

01:07:41.780 at all.

01:07:42.660 You're not looking for truth lifted out of the emotion and you have to put

01:07:47.960 it into the science community.

01:07:50.460 So this all happened because of, uh, the governor of Virginia, Mario, uh,

01:07:56.700 Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York, Hillary Clinton, all of these high,

01:08:02.200 high level democratic politicians who basically said to the nation, you know

01:08:06.680 what?

01:08:07.860 Abortion should be on demand at any time for any reason.

01:08:11.360 Well, that horrified most Americans, that position horrified most Americans.

01:08:17.820 So you can use abortion as birth control.

01:08:20.580 Now, is that what you can do?

01:08:22.460 You can practice eugenics as Supreme court justice Thomas pointed out.

01:08:27.240 Is that what you can do?

01:08:28.740 So the backlash against those people I just mentioned is what led to the

01:08:35.000 heartbeat laws.

01:08:35.960 And what led to you changing your opinion, I believe, all right, is that we

01:08:41.160 can't have a society that just throws human life away, uh, and worships at the

01:08:48.020 altar of reproductive rights.

01:08:49.980 You said it's not a just society.

01:08:52.440 Here's the problem.

01:08:53.300 You said, well, we have to bring it back into science.

01:08:56.060 We do.

01:08:57.320 However, you know, I just reread, uh, Eisenhower's farewell speech and, you

01:09:02.660 know, everybody knows it because he said, you know, the vast industrial

01:09:05.660 military industrial complex, but he said, there's two things that we have to

01:09:10.000 watch out for.

01:09:10.780 The second thing in holding scientific research in and discovery in respect,

01:09:17.520 as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that

01:09:22.580 public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological

01:09:28.200 elite.

01:09:28.900 What he was talking about where these universities were going to start getting

01:09:32.380 lots of money for research.

01:09:35.240 And so they're going to start to do the things that the government wants.

01:09:40.100 They're going to start to, uh, have their own kind of, uh, elite and we could find

01:09:47.040 ourselves in trouble because the same elites who are working with the military

01:09:52.400 industrial complex, the same kind of thing is happening over in education and

01:09:56.060 science.

01:09:56.620 And that's really where we are.

01:09:58.900 Um, but science is leaning heavily toward the pro-life position.

01:10:06.740 I mean, so you're saying, wait, wait, wait, you're saying scientific, you're

01:10:11.240 saying scientific fact, right?

01:10:14.100 Okay.

01:10:14.640 So there's a, you know, about human DNA.

01:10:16.900 Now we know.

01:10:17.740 Yes.

01:10:18.260 And now we have ultrasound.

01:10:19.500 Now we have all of these things that all of them lean toward, this is a person.

01:10:27.180 Okay.

01:10:27.900 You, and you can't cavalierly decapitate a person, even if it's not born yet.

01:10:34.400 So all the science goes in that direction.

01:10:38.000 Yes.

01:10:39.060 All right.

01:10:39.540 So I'm not worried about any of that.

01:10:41.580 What I'm worried about is that American young people in particular don't understand what

01:10:48.900 the hell is going on here because it's easy to rationalize behavior.

01:10:53.560 That's destructive.

01:10:54.540 You see it every day.

01:10:56.080 And, and the rationale they're given is it's not a human being and it's the mother's, um,

01:11:04.560 right, human right and constitutional right to do whatever she wants with it.

01:11:12.040 Do you know how many people believe that?

01:11:14.820 But it, and it's never challenged.

01:11:17.000 It's not challenged by anybody, um, in the national television media, I don't know any

01:11:25.200 newspaper that challenges that to you.

01:11:27.840 No, you know, one newspaper that challenges that point of view.

01:11:31.500 And if you utter it, if you're in the entertainment industry, you don't work.

01:11:36.900 So I want Disney and Comcast to start to discuss this matter on a life.

01:11:47.000 Death basis.

01:11:47.920 That's where you start.

01:11:49.760 Now, would they do it?

01:11:51.100 No, they'd never do it in a million years.

01:11:54.220 Iger would never do it because he is a politically correct guy who puts his finger up to the wind

01:12:01.160 and says, well, this is what most of the Hollywood community believes.

01:12:04.800 So I'm going to believe it too.

01:12:06.460 And that's why he's threatening Georgia.

01:12:10.020 So it's really sad that we've come to this place in this country where economic terror is

01:12:16.720 used to promote bad policy.

01:12:20.040 If anybody thinks that abortion on demand, as we have now in New York state, for any reason

01:12:27.500 at any time is good public policy, humane policy.

01:12:32.920 If anybody believes the founding fathers would have sanctioned that, they're not just stupid.

01:12:38.760 They're crazy.

01:12:39.680 Well, anybody who thought Martin Luther King or Gandhi or Lincoln or any of the great heroes

01:12:47.900 and thinkers of the past would have agreed with that, they are crazy.

01:12:52.620 The people who would have agreed with that were people like Mengele and Goebbels and Hitler

01:12:57.140 and Mussolini and Stalin and Mao.

01:12:58.180 This is never presented in public schools.

01:13:00.620 I know.

01:13:01.160 It's never presented.

01:13:03.820 So you have, you know, people, millions of Americans going blithely along, buying into

01:13:09.040 this mantra of women's rights.

01:13:11.680 It's my body.

01:13:12.660 I can do what I want.

01:13:14.240 You know what?

01:13:15.080 It's not about you doing what you want.

01:13:19.820 It's about you understanding what you're doing.

01:13:23.480 Bill O'Reilly from BillOReilly.com and the author of some new Trump book I've heard about.

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01:15:39.660 We have something genuinely horrific to tell you about Martin Luther King that came out

01:15:45.460 in the last few days.

01:15:47.780 And there's a lot of stuff behind this.

01:15:52.780 But first, let's get to what was said and who said it.

01:15:56.580 Yeah.

01:15:56.720 David Garrow, who is a Pulitzer Prize winning biographer of Martin Luther King.

01:16:00.340 So very credible source.

01:16:01.780 He has gotten a hold of a memo describing a tape.

01:16:05.820 So the tape exists, but it has not been heard.

01:16:08.020 It is supposedly not going to be released in the archives until 2027.

01:16:11.580 However, the memo that describes what's in the tapes has been seen by this guy who is

01:16:17.060 completely credible when it comes to Martin Luther King.

01:16:19.680 And he's a big lefty.

01:16:21.040 He is a big lefty.

01:16:21.760 But I mean, he wrote like, yeah, the Pulitzer Prize winning book on Martin Luther King.

01:16:26.780 Yes.

01:16:26.940 So the memo accompanying the tape alleges that Martin Luther King looked on and laughed as

01:16:34.240 a pastor of Baltimore's Cornerstone Baptist Church raped a woman in the hotel room.

01:16:39.460 Again, this is supposedly on tape.

01:16:42.000 The FBI documents say that King had a conversation in which he, quote, discussed which women among

01:16:47.140 the parishioners would be suitable for natural and unnatural sex acts.

01:16:52.000 The report goes on.

01:16:54.580 When the women, one of the women protested that she did not approve, the Baptist minister

01:16:58.860 immediately and forcibly raped her.

01:17:02.580 Garrow wrote that the FBI agents did not intervene during the alleged rape.

01:17:06.040 So the FBI agents are there as well.

01:17:07.820 They had bugged the room on the lamps in the room.

01:17:13.200 At the same hotel the same evening, or same hotel in the following evening, excuse me, King

01:17:18.680 and a dozen other individuals participated in a sex orgy.

01:17:22.400 When one of the women shied away from engaging in an unnatural act, King and several of the

01:17:27.740 men discussed how she was going to be taught and initiated in this respect.

01:17:32.640 King told her to perform such an act would help your soul.

01:17:36.040 Again, this is all supposedly on tape.

01:17:38.540 Now, there is, I think, the asterisk you need to put next to it in that the FBI was looking

01:17:43.100 for negative information on Martin Luther King at this time and perhaps is, you know,

01:17:48.180 not, is, is describing these conversations in some way that isn't accurate or is misleading.

01:17:55.180 Though I don't know.

01:17:56.200 I mean, these are quotes.

01:17:57.860 If, unless the tape, if the tape has been erased, I think you could say, all right, well,

01:18:02.160 maybe they were lying.

01:18:03.080 However, you know, it's pointing to a tape that supposedly exists and will be released

01:18:07.540 in 2027.

01:18:08.720 So now here is, here is, here are the questions.

01:18:13.400 First of all, is there a tape?

01:18:15.820 Is this coming from a credible source?

01:18:18.280 It is coming from a credible source.

01:18:20.460 We do know the FBI was taping.

01:18:23.400 What would the motivation of the source be to release this?

01:18:28.320 Well, he is the King biographer.

01:18:32.740 He is the guy who is recognized around the world as being the guy that has, has captured

01:18:40.120 Martin Luther King in the, the best way.

01:18:43.560 He has been positive about Martin Luther King.

01:18:46.720 He's not doing a hatchet job on him.

01:18:48.740 Never has.

01:18:49.740 So what would his motivation be?

01:18:51.800 I want to get to that when we come back, because it is telling.

01:19:01.400 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:19:07.000 There is a conversation we started a few minutes ago about an audio tape that supposedly is in

01:19:13.920 existence that has Martin Luther King watching a rape of a woman and laughing.

01:19:21.800 about it, engaged in an orgy and saying horrible, horrible things.

01:19:27.960 If this is true, this completely changes Martin Luther King.

01:19:32.080 I mean, how do you have a statue of King?

01:19:34.080 Now, the question is, where did this information come from and why is it coming out now?

01:19:40.100 Well, the answer is, I think the one of the most important answers that you can find today.

01:19:50.380 And I'll give it to you in one minute.

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01:21:30.880 All right, so let's get back into this Martin Luther King conversation that we were having with Stu.

01:21:40.920 There is a Pulitzer Prize winning author.

01:21:48.100 He is not a hack.

01:21:50.740 He is not from the right.

01:21:53.300 He has no reason to put this out, or so you would think.

01:21:58.060 He would have no reason to put this out about Martin Luther King if it weren't true.

01:22:03.540 He is the guy who is the expert on Martin Luther King.

01:22:08.940 He is embraced by everybody on the left and everybody who's a King fan.

01:22:14.740 This is the ultimate biography of Martin Luther King.

01:22:19.640 He wrote it in the 80s.

01:22:21.080 Now, he has just come out with a document that says that the government has a tape.

01:22:28.880 It has not been released, but it has been heard.

01:22:30.940 Well, there's a memo describing it written by the FBI.

01:22:36.620 Right, that he has.

01:22:37.520 The FBI has heard it.

01:22:38.800 Yes, and they transcribed it and summarized it.

01:22:41.380 Correct.

01:22:41.860 And he has that memo.

01:22:43.400 So it hasn't been heard by anybody today that we know of.

01:22:47.240 This is just a memo that is showing what tapes they have on Martin Luther King.

01:22:52.840 We know that J. Edgar Hoover was making tapes of Martin Luther King.

01:22:57.740 Kennedy and Johnson were spying on King because Hoover thought that he was a communist and also thought he was very low of moral character.

01:23:08.640 Now, these things have all always been denied.

01:23:12.700 Well, the moral character one, there's been evidence of, right?

01:23:15.920 You know, in the story, it talks about how they thought he had 10 to 12 mistresses throughout his life, and they think now the number is more like 40 or 45.

01:23:27.140 It's a lot.

01:23:28.100 Okay.

01:23:28.660 It keeps you busy.

01:23:29.440 Now, the question that you should ask is, because we don't know if this tape, until this tape is released in 2027,

01:23:38.940 and I would urge, for history's sake, that that tape is released, if it exists, or any other tapes are released long before 2027.

01:23:49.660 In fact, in the next 18 months to two years, because digital audio deep fakes are not good yet.

01:24:00.060 By 2027, you will not believe your eyes, and you will not believe your ears.

01:24:04.400 So, any audio tape after really 2020, 2022, you're not going to believe.

01:24:11.460 It won't make any impact.

01:24:13.620 So, if you want to know if this is true, that tape and any other tapes like it for anything should be released now,

01:24:22.220 because we don't have the technology to fake them yet.

01:24:28.560 Why would this guy do this?

01:24:30.820 This guy is a celebrated leftist.

01:24:33.140 This puts him in the outs, and you could say, well, he just wants to tell the truth.

01:24:37.800 Okay.

01:24:38.500 Maybe so.

01:24:39.740 Maybe so.

01:24:40.820 When did he get this memo?

01:24:44.100 Who gave this memo to him?

01:24:47.420 And who is he?

01:24:50.040 Now, we know that he's been a lefty, but what does that mean?

01:24:56.620 In his own words, he is a, what did he call himself, a quintessential Bernie Sanders donor?

01:25:07.360 And he said he is also a democratic socialist and has been, at times, an enthusiastic participator in democratic socialism.

01:25:19.900 Okay?

01:25:21.080 This is the author.

01:25:22.280 This is the author that has released this information.

01:25:25.680 Why would you release this information?

01:25:27.860 Why would you release this information now?

01:25:30.440 Well, what is democratic socialism?

01:25:35.660 Democratic socialism, for it to come true, several things have to happen.

01:25:41.280 But, one, you must destroy anyone who talks about the individual.

01:25:48.420 Democratic socialists, it is not about the individual.

01:25:52.240 It is about the collective.

01:25:54.940 What is the hardest thing for a socialist to get around?

01:25:59.740 Or any of these people who are talking about social justice now, the way it's interpreted today, the biggest obstacle they have is Martin Luther King.

01:26:11.920 Because he is still for individual salvation.

01:26:17.120 Content of character.

01:26:18.120 Content.

01:26:18.800 Judge me by the content of my character, not the color of my skin.

01:26:24.080 And I see a day when blacks and whites can play together.

01:26:27.400 Okay?

01:26:29.240 That's his message.

01:26:31.080 Well, that's a very conservative message, quite frankly.

01:26:34.240 Today, especially.

01:26:35.380 Yes.

01:26:35.880 His message of America, live up to your founding documents.

01:26:42.120 All men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain rights.

01:26:45.560 That is not a democratic socialist message, nor is it helpful to those who are democratic socialists.

01:26:53.480 You must destroy that.

01:26:55.580 But you have to destroy it in such a spectacular way.

01:27:00.100 Now, think of this.

01:27:01.340 If this is true, that tape was released.

01:27:05.080 That he watched and laughed as a rape was going on.

01:27:08.020 As it was going on, if he was saying these horrible, horrible things to a woman in an orgy,

01:27:16.360 is he a guy we have a Martin Luther King day for?

01:27:19.660 Is he a guy we have statues for?

01:27:22.320 Boulevards named after?

01:27:25.000 That's a really bad guy.

01:27:27.120 If you're going to pull down statues of people from 1800, you've got to pull down a guy from 1960,

01:27:34.160 because 1960 was not about that either.

01:27:36.680 At least that's not what we were told he was about.

01:27:39.480 And I'm sure you can find many civil rights activists that did not participate in rapes.

01:27:44.180 Exactly right.

01:27:45.040 So you can have a holiday still about some civil rights activist.

01:27:48.740 But can you have a holiday for a guy who watched a rape on tape?

01:27:52.220 And laughed?

01:27:52.820 And laughed about it?

01:27:53.540 Like, I don't know if he can.

01:27:56.380 Can you have statues for that person?

01:27:58.840 I don't know if he can.

01:28:00.420 Even though you can still say what he said was good, you cannot hold him up.

01:28:06.500 You can hold his words up, but you cannot hold him up to be that guy.

01:28:13.000 What they have to do is destroy him and his words.

01:28:18.880 And that's the problem.

01:28:19.980 They don't just destroy Thomas Jefferson.

01:28:22.020 They destroy his words.

01:28:24.220 Right.

01:28:24.480 And because he was such a bad person, all of his words are disqualified from being positive.

01:28:29.220 Correct.

01:28:29.300 And to your point here, listen to this quote from the author.

01:28:31.120 He said, the new information, quote, poses so fundamental a challenge to his historical stature

01:28:36.920 as to require the most complete and extensive historical review possible.

01:28:40.900 I mean, he, that is a, I mean, that is like, if this is true, and again, we don't 100% know

01:28:50.500 that it is, though it's in FBI documents and there's apparently a tape set showing that

01:28:55.840 he actually did this.

01:28:56.740 If it's clear on tape, I mean, can the American people stand by and say, allow that to go on?

01:29:03.360 You know, you take a Martin Luther King day, a national holiday.

01:29:07.380 And what does that do for, what does that do to African Americans?

01:29:10.780 I mean, you think Bill, the Bill Cosby thing was jarring, right?

01:29:14.080 Like here's a guy who's a popular sitcom host in the eighties and, or, or like a, a really

01:29:19.440 popular singer in the, the King of Pop.

01:29:21.540 He had his issues.

01:29:22.600 This guy's like the guy when it comes to civil rights in the United States of America.

01:29:29.400 And, uh, I would say a rape is a violation of civil rights.

01:29:33.420 I'm going to go out and say it.

01:29:34.700 I think it is.

01:29:36.120 Uh, so it's going to be difficult to hold if that tape exists and it is as, as described

01:29:42.060 in this story and multiple others, it's almost incomprehensible.

01:29:47.980 You'd have a holiday for that person.

01:29:49.560 I mean, right?

01:29:50.360 So here's the, so that is the story.

01:29:52.920 That's the story.

01:29:55.000 But here's the real story behind that.

01:29:59.060 Why now?

01:30:00.880 Who leaked that?

01:30:02.860 How did it get to him?

01:30:04.380 When did it get to him?

01:30:06.480 Why is he an honest broker or is he a democratic socialist, uh, who is a strong activist who

01:30:14.380 understands you've got to destroy him?

01:30:17.240 Is this part of a movement of destroying, uh, all of our heroes and turning everything upside

01:30:24.780 down and inside out?

01:30:27.020 I think it is.

01:30:28.900 I think it is.

01:30:31.200 Think about losing Martin Luther King.

01:30:34.620 African-Americans have had all of their heroes taken away.

01:30:40.320 All of their heroes have been taken away.

01:30:43.200 Now.

01:30:45.880 Martin Luther King is destroyed.

01:30:48.680 Not, not marginalized.

01:30:51.620 Destroyed.

01:30:52.260 Yeah.

01:30:52.420 How does that leave the African-American looking at history?

01:30:57.860 Is there anyone?

01:30:59.480 Is there anyone they can look up to in American history?

01:31:03.140 Or that a white guy won't destroy, right?

01:31:05.420 Yes.

01:31:05.780 Here's a white guy bringing out all this information with probably white FBI agents and everything

01:31:10.080 else.

01:31:10.700 I mean, it's going to be hard not to look at that.

01:31:13.060 This is not good.

01:31:14.060 No.

01:31:14.380 This is not good.

01:31:15.920 And I just don't know how you ignore it.

01:31:17.600 You know, I don't know how you look at a story like this.

01:31:20.200 If it's true, you can't just ignore it.

01:31:22.920 You can't just.

01:31:23.340 Well, the media has.

01:31:24.780 The media pretty much has.

01:31:26.920 Yeah.

01:31:27.420 I mean, there's definitely been coverage of it, but you're, it hasn't been, it hasn't

01:31:30.980 been as big a story as you would think.

01:31:32.320 I mean, certainly if this story came out about some, uh, conservative religious figure,

01:31:37.420 uh, that was.

01:31:38.640 Maybe this came out about Billy Graham.

01:31:39.940 Right.

01:31:40.320 There were tapes on Billy Graham.

01:31:41.760 Can you imagine what they'd be doing to Billy Graham?

01:31:44.320 Oh my gosh.

01:31:45.080 Uh, and, and I think they just don't know what to do.

01:31:47.600 They didn't do people like Jim Baker for having an affair.

01:31:50.760 They destroyed the guy.

01:31:51.740 But remember, remember, this is coming from the left, not the Democrats from the democratic

01:32:00.260 socialist.

01:32:01.080 This is coming from a guy who says, I'm in with the Bernie Sanders crew.

01:32:07.040 Who did we introduce you to last night with Bernie Sanders crew?

01:32:12.760 What picture are you starting to see about who Bernie Sanders surrounds himself with?

01:32:18.940 You have to watch that episode.

01:32:19.920 If you didn't see it last night, you want to understand this Martin Luther King thing

01:32:23.420 and see how it might fit in.

01:32:25.340 You look at this guy's credentials, what he says about how a big supporter he is of Bernie

01:32:30.740 Sanders.

01:32:31.140 And you then drop in this piece.

01:32:34.360 And all of a sudden you start to understand exactly what's happening in our society.

01:32:41.500 By the way, if this is true, uh, there had to be other civil rights activists that knew

01:32:46.900 about this at the time.

01:32:48.120 There had to be other people, uh, press members.

01:32:51.360 What happened to them?

01:32:53.020 You've been lied to.

01:32:54.000 If this is true, America has been lied to from everyone on the democratic left, everyone

01:33:01.800 on the democratic left and all the media, because people had to know about this stuff.

01:33:07.200 If he had 40 mistresses, they knew about it.

01:33:10.080 I mean, we did know he was, he had some sketchy parts of him for sure.

01:33:14.040 But I mean, he's doing orgies, he's doing orgies, multiple prostitutes and hotels all

01:33:19.420 over the country.

01:33:20.180 It's hard to imagine that was not more.

01:33:22.100 All right.

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01:34:49.240 So I, uh, this weekend I'm going to introduce you to somebody you may not know.

01:35:10.100 Um, she is somebody who has traditionally been thought of, of being on the left.

01:35:14.080 Um, she is, uh, somebody that was, she was a writer for playboy.

01:35:19.400 I, I personally think she is, she's a female Ernest Hemingway of our day.

01:35:25.900 She, her writing is unbelievable.

01:35:29.000 It's dangerous.

01:35:30.300 It is, uh, uh, provocative, uh, but it is full of some real universal truths.

01:35:38.180 Well, she is, she is shocking herself because she's realizing I'm not one of the

01:35:44.060 those people.

01:35:44.900 I'm not a, wait, I'm, I'm not a socialist.

01:35:47.380 I don't think I'm even, I mean, I still want to call myself liberal, but I think I'm a classic

01:35:52.480 liberal.

01:35:52.800 And that kind of sounds like I'm a conservative, uh, and she is being shunned.

01:35:57.720 She was a rising star.

01:35:59.640 She's being shunned.

01:36:01.380 Uh, and she's starting her whole life over and she is so honest and raw and funny.

01:36:07.180 She is truly one of my favorite people.

01:36:09.220 Now I didn't know how we would get along at all.

01:36:13.740 Um, and this is what she had to say about kind of coming out and going, wait, I guess

01:36:21.320 maybe I, I mean, I don't want to say I'm a conservative, but I believe these things.

01:36:26.000 Listen to this.

01:36:26.960 We used to be great because we had differing opinions and we would push back and meet kind

01:36:33.420 of hopefully somewhere in the middle.

01:36:35.140 And it was this swing.

01:36:36.240 And now it just feels like no one is listening to each other.

01:36:40.200 And it seems to be increasing as we approach 2020.

01:36:44.340 My hope for people is that they, I understand the urge to retreat into a tribe because it's,

01:36:51.160 it's scary.

01:36:52.900 And it's natural.

01:36:53.520 It's natural.

01:36:54.140 It's also terrifying when you're out there just alone in the middle, trying to be nuanced,

01:36:59.640 God forbid, you get battered by everyone.

01:37:02.960 And so I, you feel really alone.

01:37:05.040 Yeah.

01:37:05.520 There's nobody, there will be people who will read you and will support you, but they won't

01:37:10.680 share me.

01:37:11.300 You will not share it.

01:37:12.800 No.

01:37:13.160 I've had people reach out to me and say, I love that article.

01:37:15.660 I can never share it.

01:37:16.480 And so then it is that isolating, you know, being in LA, I think without Twitter, I would

01:37:24.040 have gone crazy because I felt so ideologically isolated.

01:37:28.580 I thought I was losing my mind when I started pushing back a little bit and feeling, and so

01:37:34.660 much of it is insidious.

01:37:36.340 That is what I always say about censorship.

01:37:38.900 You know, people, when they say, they'll push back and say, well, they're not knocking

01:37:42.240 on your door and they're not locking you up for saying, yet it starts in the mind, self

01:37:47.460 censorship.

01:37:48.320 It's censorship starts here.

01:37:49.920 It starts when you start being quiet and putting your head down and not.

01:37:53.960 The other way.

01:37:55.880 She's phenomenal and very, very funny.

01:37:58.680 You've been a fan of hers for a while, haven't you still?

01:38:01.280 Yeah.

01:38:01.880 Yeah.

01:38:02.300 She's, she's great.

01:38:03.240 You know, she, like there's very few people I feel like that can cut through this world

01:38:07.800 because there's, you know, when it comes to, especially online stuff, because so many

01:38:11.620 people are just like, I say the same 12 things every day.

01:38:15.680 And I will, you know, I mean, think about the people that, you know, 90% of them that

01:38:20.840 are in the media right now, you can just cookie cutter, you know, what their opinion is going

01:38:25.220 to be on every topic.

01:38:26.560 And so I, I have really found myself interested in people that I don't necessarily know or

01:38:31.980 bring up points that I hadn't heard or think about things in a different way.

01:38:35.100 One of the things that I liked about her, and these are the best, this is such a great

01:38:39.560 series.

01:38:40.060 Once a week, every Saturday I put out an interview with somebody and they last about 90 minutes

01:38:44.640 and they're fascinating.

01:38:47.020 And the best people are like Bridget.

01:38:50.140 She, she was, I think there's the longest pause from a guest I've ever had.

01:38:55.840 And it wasn't that she was, she was censoring herself.

01:38:59.080 She was thinking about something for the first time and trying to describe, well, okay, this

01:39:05.860 is how I feel and, and trying to find the, the word.

01:39:11.720 So it's really raw.

01:39:13.440 There's no packaging and it's authentic.

01:39:17.600 And that's why she's cutting through and she's becoming this, she's becoming a much bigger

01:39:23.300 star now, just not with mainstream either side.

01:39:28.120 She, and she's, the raw thing is perfect with her because she, you know, she went through

01:39:32.040 major struggles with alcohol and drugs and all sorts of craziness in her life.

01:39:36.180 Crazy.

01:39:36.760 And she, I mean, she'd admit that she sort of lives on the edge of things, you know,

01:39:41.600 like I, you know, she's not always, not every day she wakes up and everything's perfect.

01:39:45.960 Like she's not one of these, she's like a person where she still struggles with a lot

01:39:49.780 of the stuff and it gives her the sense of like, she's just out there admitting it.

01:39:53.760 She's like, I don't know how else to do this.

01:39:55.160 I'm just going to blurt it all out and see what happens.

01:39:56.700 And that's a, it makes for a really interesting conversation.

01:40:00.580 Yeah.

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01:41:38.860 Welcome to the program.

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01:41:41.420 We have Mark Levin, a good friend and coworker of mine.

01:41:49.480 Mark Levin.

01:41:50.200 Welcome to the program.

01:41:51.180 How are you, sir?

01:41:52.160 Glenn Beck.

01:41:52.780 Good.

01:41:53.140 How are you?

01:41:53.640 I am great.

01:41:54.420 Mark, I have to tell you, I was up on vacation.

01:41:56.560 I bought your book and I bought the audio book.

01:41:59.120 And I downloaded it last Tuesday.

01:42:02.840 And I was painting for the day.

01:42:05.360 And I put my earbuds in.

01:42:07.440 And lo and behold, about five o'clock in the afternoon, I stop.

01:42:11.400 And I've been painting.

01:42:13.020 And my family keeps walking in and out of the room.

01:42:16.120 And as I pull my earbuds off, they're all laughing at me.

01:42:19.940 And I said, what?

01:42:20.540 And they said, we have really enjoyed you today, Dad.

01:42:23.620 And I said, okay, how?

01:42:26.820 I mean, we haven't even talked to each other.

01:42:28.040 And they said, all day long, we've been listening to you go, uh-huh.

01:42:32.760 Yes.

01:42:34.040 Yes.

01:42:35.740 Finally.

01:42:36.900 Yes.

01:42:38.080 Whoa.

01:42:39.320 Huh.

01:42:40.120 I didn't know that.

01:42:41.940 Wow.

01:42:42.560 And it was all me commenting on your book the entire day.

01:42:46.920 Really, really well written.

01:42:49.320 Really well written.

01:42:50.320 And a lot of great information.

01:42:52.000 So congratulations on your number one status.

01:42:54.420 The name of the book is Unfreedom of the Press.

01:42:57.540 Mark, tell me, tell the audience why this is not just a, why this is a book that transcends

01:43:06.220 today's politics.

01:43:08.500 First of all, you're very kind.

01:43:10.140 Now, are you painting paintings or are you painting the walls?

01:43:12.620 No, I'm painting paintings, yeah.

01:43:14.400 Really?

01:43:15.000 Yeah.

01:43:15.380 I call them 10-hour memes.

01:43:17.960 But I'll send you some stuff.

01:43:19.820 I would love to see them.

01:43:21.000 Yeah, thanks.

01:43:21.880 First of all, you're very kind and I very much appreciate it.

01:43:25.920 The question was, I think, why did I write this book?

01:43:28.220 Well, look, the reason it transcends politics is because it's about the Constitution and the

01:43:35.380 Constitution transcends politics.

01:43:37.120 The Constitution's about our rights and our liberties and protecting them.

01:43:41.580 And so, you know, Glenn, I've written a lot about the Constitution and American history and philosophy.

01:43:46.920 And I said, you know what?

01:43:48.020 One area I don't know a lot about is the history of the press.

01:43:52.400 And they're in our face.

01:43:53.720 They're in our living room.

01:43:54.840 They're in our bedrooms.

01:43:56.000 They are berating us.

01:43:57.920 They are propagandizing to us.

01:43:59.880 They're wrapping themselves in the First Amendment.

01:44:01.580 I think I need to get to the bottom of it.

01:44:04.760 And so I did what I always do.

01:44:06.480 I said to my wife, I'll see you in about 16 months.

01:44:09.420 So you have no idea what she said to me.

01:44:14.300 One day when we meet, she'll tell you.

01:44:15.920 So anyway, so that means nights and weekends.

01:44:19.620 And that's what I do.

01:44:20.620 You know, some people play golf or whatever.

01:44:22.300 This is what I do.

01:44:23.100 So I dug in kind of the history of the media.

01:44:27.220 It's not a history book, but some of that's necessary.

01:44:29.780 So we have perspective.

01:44:31.340 We have the Patriot Press before the Revolution, before the Revolution, with the printers, you

01:44:36.260 know, moving the printing presses, being chased by the British.

01:44:39.280 And they were really unique in the original Patriots because they are the ones who push the

01:44:44.480 ideas of the Enlightenment.

01:44:45.980 They are the ones who push the ideas of Aristotle and Cicero and Locke.

01:44:49.560 Right.

01:44:49.860 And they were spreading them among the colonists.

01:44:53.180 And, you know, Obama talks about fundamental transformation.

01:44:56.880 They didn't want to fundamentally transform society or human nature.

01:45:00.660 They wanted to fundamentally transform government.

01:45:03.360 They were living under a tyranny.

01:45:04.740 They wanted representation.

01:45:06.440 They didn't like big taxes.

01:45:07.840 They didn't like to be pushed around by government.

01:45:09.780 They believed in property rights, all these things that you and I and our audiences believe in.

01:45:14.060 And so they pushed a revolution.

01:45:17.680 And the word got out.

01:45:19.160 You know, there were about three dozen newspapers.

01:45:20.880 That's it.

01:45:21.220 But there were several hundred pamphlets and pamphleteers.

01:45:25.060 And word would get out slowly.

01:45:26.480 And this information would be published.

01:45:28.660 And people would discuss it.

01:45:29.960 They'd discuss it in their pubs, at home, and so forth.

01:45:32.700 Frankly, much like we do on talk radio.

01:45:34.660 This is really a unique format, because there's really no other national format where this occurs.

01:45:40.260 But they would do it at a local level.

01:45:41.800 And so, just to jump quickly, you had the revolution, and soon after the revolution, you had the party press.

01:45:48.520 This is the part of the book that I found really fascinating, because you point out the people knew.

01:45:58.880 When you got the Democratic ledger, you knew what it was, that it was an organ for, it was that point of view coming at you.

01:46:09.720 And so you could read the Democrat, and you could read the Republican, and you'd balance them yourselves.

01:46:14.860 They weren't masquerading as fair and balanced.

01:46:20.120 No.

01:46:20.660 In fact, in some cases, publishers and editors were on the payroll of the post office, or something like that, depending on the administration.

01:46:27.660 It was a very rough period for the press, but they were very honest about who they were, as you point out.

01:46:32.800 You have papers today, the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, the Arizona Republic, was the Arizona Republican.

01:46:38.700 So they were full-throated about candidates, parties, causes they supported.

01:46:43.140 And then you move through, and I passed the yellow journalism period, because it's not that interesting.

01:46:47.020 And then you move through to the early part of the last century, the progressive movement, of which you're well familiar.

01:46:54.440 The progressive movement was ubiquitous.

01:46:57.740 They really, it is a poison that spread into all aspects of our society.

01:47:02.420 And John Dewey, as you know, one of the intellectuals behind that movement, he focused specifically on schooling and the media.

01:47:09.580 And just so the audience understands, the purpose here, as typical, was to have a relative handful of people determine what news is, digest it, analyze it, interpret it, and then burp it up for the rest of us.

01:47:22.160 You've really, you really captured the progressive disease really well in explaining it.

01:47:27.860 You know, it's funny, I was attacked in the Washington Post yesterday, and I love these guys, because they prove the point of the book.

01:47:33.060 And I take my time going through their attack on me, which is usually personal, and I don't really care.

01:47:38.060 But they do exactly what I say in the book.

01:47:40.180 They are exactly, as I say in the book, because they are who they are.

01:47:44.020 And so you have people, Lipman and others, saying at the time that people are too busy or they're too stupid, so we'll figure this stuff out.

01:47:52.000 This went on for a while.

01:47:53.320 And then you get up to a few decades ago, where on top of that they added social activism.

01:48:00.080 They call themselves public press or community press.

01:48:04.180 And they've really bought into, you know, Alinsky tactics and these other tactics of the hard left.

01:48:09.560 It's being pushed in journalism school.

01:48:11.960 A lot of these guys haven't gone to journalism school.

01:48:14.340 They come out of the Democrat Party, come out of an administration, or this is their mindset regardless.

01:48:18.600 And so today what we're getting on TV is a one-party press rather than a two-party press that is pushing the progressive agenda and social activism.

01:48:30.600 That's why there's not a dime's worth of difference between most of the media and the Democrat Party today.

01:48:36.420 They're just honest to God.

01:48:38.480 And in the first chapter, I show you the surveys.

01:48:41.160 I show you the research.

01:48:42.280 I show you the professors.

01:48:43.560 I show you some of the reporters, what they're saying.

01:48:46.060 There's very little diversity in newsrooms today.

01:48:48.740 There's very little diversity in reporting today.

01:48:51.300 You can predict what they're going to say.

01:48:53.060 The only debate on the left in the media today really is, do we come out and say who we are like a lot of them are doing now?

01:48:59.520 Yes, we're liberals, we're progressives, and thank God for us.

01:49:02.320 Thank God we know what the news is.

01:49:04.160 Or there wouldn't have been a civil rights movement or, you know, climate change issue.

01:49:08.960 So they really believe they are the truth-tellers.

01:49:11.340 And then the other side, like the New York Times today saying, well, you know, we don't want all of our people on measly CNN and MSNBC because they have a different view, which is, yes, we're all those things, but we really don't want to admit it.

01:49:23.180 Correct.

01:49:23.380 Because we're the paper of record, you know.

01:49:24.940 And they're not.

01:49:27.700 They're just, they live in these circles that allow them to believe that they are the fair and balanced one, that they are the, well, no, we're just, we are the paper of record.

01:49:42.240 They live in those circles, and they don't care to mean, in fact, I think they despise most of the people that live in the center of the country or have different points of view.

01:49:51.460 And so it's just a self-fulfilling label for them.

01:49:56.580 You are exactly right.

01:49:57.740 Most of them live in the same areas, generally, you know, in a 40, 50-mile radius of Washington or New York, most of them.

01:50:04.320 Even the new so-called left-wing reporters live in mostly blue Hillary Clinton counties.

01:50:10.260 Studies have been done on this.

01:50:12.640 They self-identify as either Democrat or liberal in large numbers.

01:50:16.660 The last survey showed about 4% identifying as conservatives.

01:50:21.460 It's much like universities where faculty hire faculty, so they pick the same ideological ideology that people share and take them out of the same Ivy League schools.

01:50:31.840 It's a lot of that is the same.

01:50:34.200 But the New York Times I focused on in particular because this is held up as the gold standard, and the gold standard isn't worth crap.

01:50:41.640 And I go back and do the history of the New York Times during the Holocaust and the history of the New York Times when Stalin was wiping out the Ukrainians.

01:50:50.160 And when you look at this...

01:50:51.920 That's the part where my family was hearing me go, yes, yes, finally, yes!

01:50:56.420 And you know what, Glenn?

01:50:57.880 If you read that chapter, you will never view the New York Times the same again.

01:51:01.640 No.

01:51:02.320 The New York Times, and I pulled from some of the greatest scholars on this subject, during the Holocaust,

01:51:08.440 The New York Times did everything it could to bury the Holocaust in the back pages of its newspaper.

01:51:14.200 The New York Times did this for several reasons.

01:51:16.120 Number one, FDR wanted to tamp down the focus on the Holocaust.

01:51:20.240 The New York Times liked FDR, liked the New Deal agenda.

01:51:24.240 Number two, I'm Jewish.

01:51:25.900 It was owned by a Jewish family.

01:51:27.280 They didn't want the New York Times to be viewed mostly as a niche Jewish newspaper.

01:51:31.080 So they felt that they really shouldn't focus on the Holocaust.

01:51:35.640 The owner, the publisher, Sulzberger, was sort of a secular Jew, and he didn't like these Jewish organizations in New York lobbying him for a Jewish state.

01:51:45.340 And that kind of turned him off.

01:51:47.360 And all of that was poured into the pages or poured into the mindset of the New York Times.

01:51:52.720 So while the European Jews are being wiped out, whole towns, the Jews are missing.

01:51:58.640 It's being reported in European newspapers and eyewitnesses.

01:52:02.960 They would have none of it.

01:52:04.760 And it wasn't until 1944 where the vast majority of the American people were informed of the extent of the extermination of the Jews during the Holocaust.

01:52:15.780 Now ask yourself this.

01:52:17.320 Is there any other business that could survive having done that and be called the paper of record?

01:52:23.940 No.

01:52:24.800 It is a disgrace.

01:52:26.780 And they come up with these weasel-worded so-called apologies about it.

01:52:32.640 And then you look 10 years earlier.

01:52:34.200 They had a guy, Walter Durante, who was their correspondent for 12 years in Moscow.

01:52:38.980 He was in Stalin's back pocket.

01:52:40.560 And Stalin decides that these darn Ukrainian peasants will not buckle to my commune ideology.

01:52:48.960 So rather than shooting them one at a time, he decides to wipe out the entire population if he can.

01:52:54.360 He cuts off the Ukraine from all communication, all transportation, all food and water.

01:52:59.980 These poor people are cannibalizing each other.

01:53:02.440 Solzhenitsyn talks about the Ukrainians trying to get into the gulag to try to get some food.

01:53:07.780 And late at night they could hear them at the gates.

01:53:10.560 A couple of British reporters go in from the Manchester Guardian.

01:53:14.060 They see it.

01:53:15.200 They report it.

01:53:17.000 Mr. Durante, on the payroll of the New York Times, said it's not happening.

01:53:21.820 You know, they're having a harvest issue.

01:53:23.700 They're just working out the stuff.

01:53:25.320 And as far as Stalin goes, you know that old saying, sometimes you've got to break a few eggs?

01:53:29.740 That comes from him.

01:53:30.740 He wrote that in an article for the New York Times.

01:53:33.300 He trashed the British journalists who were reporting on what was taking place.

01:53:37.920 The executives at the New York Times had to know.

01:53:41.640 And, you know, he got a Pulitzer Prize, and they still haven't given back the Pulitzer Prize for this.

01:53:46.320 This is what I point out.

01:53:47.520 So when you see the New York Times when the Hamas is shooting missiles on the Tel Aviv,

01:53:51.100 and somehow the New York Times is defending Hamas and trashing Israel.

01:53:54.780 It's nothing new.

01:53:55.760 Nothing new.

01:53:56.280 And when they run these Holocaust-like cartoons, oh, they got by our editor.

01:54:01.000 You know, a lot has gotten by your editor, as a matter of fact.

01:54:04.520 I want the people to know that's the New York Times.

01:54:07.640 Mark Levin is the author of the number one New York Times bestseller, Unfreedom of the Press.

01:54:16.000 Unfreedom of the Press.

01:54:17.120 He had stiff competition, went up against Howard Stern, and gave Howard Stern only a one-week number one status.

01:54:24.180 Mark just took it.

01:54:25.200 It is so well worth the read.

01:54:27.840 It's not a political hatchet job and not just about Donald Trump or whatever.

01:54:35.260 This is truly an understanding of the press and what's happened, where we've been, and where we need to go.

01:54:42.360 So, really important book, and you'll learn a lot, and it's really well written.

01:54:47.480 A must for everybody's bookshelf.

01:54:50.180 Mark Levin, thank you so much.

01:54:51.880 Glenn, God bless you, my friend.

01:54:53.240 God bless you.

01:54:53.800 Take care.

01:54:54.260 Thank you.

01:54:54.880 Mark Levin, by the way, you can see him on Blaze TV every single night.

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01:55:15.320 Mark Levin, I'm proud to be a co-worker of his.

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01:57:18.880 About Nancy Pelosi and Trump.

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01:57:25.720 Then I think you could actually move a lot of Americans.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 31, 2019

The Closing of Our Hearts ｜ Guests： Bill O'Reilly & Mark Levin ｜ 5⧸31⧸19

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