On today's show, Glenn and Stu discuss the latest mass shooting in Florida and the reaction from the left and the media to the idea that we should offer thoughts and prayers for the victims and their families. Glenn points out that the vast majority of Americans don't pray.
00:02:40.940You are not part of the America we need to strive for.
00:02:45.180So I just want to make sure I understand that what the 93% of Americans who pray, because it's not just Christians, not just conservatives who pray.
00:02:57.200Liberals who are Christians, they pray for victims.
00:03:06.760Everyone except for atheists and maybe agnostics pray.
00:03:09.880And in certain circumstances, they wind up praying anyway.
00:03:13.500And you want to get rid of all of them.
00:03:15.160All of them are not part of the America you need to strive for.
00:03:19.220How about, by the way, all of the players you interview and make your living off of, Peter, like such as Carson Wentz and Nick Foles from the Philadelphia Eagles who pray a lot.
00:03:29.540I'm sure you're not, I'm sure you're not going to be talking to them next year.
00:03:33.300But beyond all of that, this idea that now it is okay for them to come out and just criticize the idea of thoughts and prayers.
00:03:40.680It's just, it is, it's so revealing about who these people are on the left.
00:03:47.100Oh yeah, they've completely dropped the mask.
00:04:26.200I mean, the idea that you can't have compassion and feel for victims because that's quote-unquote not enough.
00:04:33.280Do you know, the things you're proposing are also not enough.
00:04:36.820There's still going to be mass shootings if all the things you wanted to have enacted were enacted.
00:04:42.120How many times have you been asked, how many of the, how many of these instances of these tragedies would have been avoided if your proposals would have been enacted already?
00:05:09.460I think we have this audio coming up today, an interview with some congressmen.
00:05:13.140They're like, you know, the outrage from supposedly neutral journalists that they can't believe that these incidents don't drive the action they choose, the action that they want, which is control over people who are law-abiding and their firearms, right?
00:05:32.880And this outrage that they can't understand why each one of these shootings doesn't make the American public emotional enough to pass the things that they want.
00:05:44.420What they don't realize is that it has nothing to do with that.
00:05:47.360You're not supposed to pass laws based on emotion, number one.
00:05:51.160The way you're supposed to pass laws are based on sober decision-making in times when you're not in crisis.
00:05:56.620When you make decisions in moments of crisis, they're bad decisions.
00:06:00.680That's exactly why we have the process we have.
00:06:04.080To prevent massive mistakes when you're too emotional.
00:06:08.860To prevent doing the wrong thing too quickly.
00:06:12.740But by having to go through this process, it gives you a chance to really review it, look at it, think about it, and hopefully avoid the bad mistakes.
00:06:22.100It's part of the beauty of our process.
00:06:27.040And so the journalist cannot understand why America does not rally to their cause, their chosen cause, because they feel like, I am emotional because of this, therefore we should act in some way.
00:06:41.560And look, the idea that you want to stop these things is completely rational.
00:06:45.360Of course we all want to stop these things.
00:06:47.080A lot of people on the left are, well, this pro-life party, this supposedly pro-life party, don't give a damn when people get murdered in schools.
00:08:58.980What they care about is their own political power.
00:09:02.740And all they care about is this idea they can go on and look like they're better than the Republicans for a week while everyone's talking about this story.
00:09:15.000And it's blatantly obvious because you could pursue tons of these other strategies to limit these things that Republicans aren't going to fight you on.
00:09:23.840They're not going to fight you on these things.
00:09:25.300They constantly go back to the same option that they know they can't have because the American people don't want them to have it.
00:09:33.940And the Constitution prevents them from getting it.
00:09:36.500And now it's gotten to the point where they just flat out lie.
00:09:39.980They just blatantly lie to try to get their gun control legislation passed.
00:18:26.560So what you have here is the media telling you there's been 18 school shootings and what they are including in that is a 3rd grader pulling the trigger of a cop's gun and no one was injured.
00:18:36.720Almost all of those circumstances that I told you about, there were no injuries reported whatsoever.
00:18:42.300And the media is trotting that stat out as if it's supposed to make you give up your 2nd amendment rights.
00:18:49.620That is incomprehensibly disingenuous.
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00:46:49.640It's a it's a culture of throwing life away that it's not that big of a deal.
00:46:52.840Now, I think you can legitimately make an argument that part of the reason that our society has stopped valuing human life in general is because we've decided that there are a lot of people.
00:47:07.860It's not just babies, but it's also people who are elderly, people who are at the end in the middle of end of life care that we just have this idea that life isn't as valuable as we once thought it was.
00:47:18.880Now, if we were to come out and say, you know, what we need to do is cure that, because I think morally I do argue for that strongly.
00:47:24.600But if we were to come out and say the only way that we can solve this is if we cure the culture of life, the only way we can do that is making abortion illegal.
00:47:31.220Now, that would be an impossible political climb right now.
00:47:36.460You know, I will still push for it till the day I die.
00:47:38.420But it's an impossible political cure.
00:47:42.240If we were to go to the Democrats and say, you know what?
00:47:57.940At least in the short term, that would be similar to what the left is doing with guns.
00:48:04.420Every time one of these incidents comes out, it's exactly right.
00:48:07.220They make this argument that we need to do things that they know constitutionally they can't do and or politically can't do.
00:48:16.140And that half the country believes that these things would not be effective or are not legal.
00:48:22.340And yet they make the same arguments every time hoping and wishing and praying that at some point you will get so lost in your emotion that you'll make a decision based on something other than the Constitution or what you actually believe.
00:48:35.160And that is a that's a dark freaking road to try to get a bill passed.
00:48:41.720And it's not about you're not supposed to make you're not supposed to pass bills when you're in the middle of a this is why we don't have the victims of of this shooting deciding the punishment of the shooter.
00:48:52.260We don't do that because we don't think emotions should be part of this process.
00:48:57.860We want to suck the emotion out of the process and make decisions based on things other than emotion.
00:49:02.840And I mean we could play you I just you know I just saw Megyn Kelly doing it on the beginning of her show Don Lemon did it last night this morning CNN with Allison Camerata and Chris Cuomo same exact thing.
00:49:19.800I don't understand last time this happened and I thought this would be the time that people finally are moved to do the thing I want them to do and they still won't do it because they don't want to do it.
00:49:32.980It's not it's like they think that eventually something so tragic will make them think like your local TV host your national TV host the person telling you the right thing to do.
00:49:43.580And man it is really frustrating it is because that's that I wish it is we can't have a normal debate on this because you're trying to make it this emotional pass it in 10 seconds situation.
00:49:54.040How many times the left told us about how evil the Patriot Act is how evil it was because we passed it in a moment of national crisis before we even really had the chance to look at what was in it.
00:50:05.180Right. And you know we've talked about this as regret that now Ted and it was misused right we didn't we didn't look at that and say wait what are all the negatives that can happen with this bill.
00:50:15.900We didn't look at that because we were frantic that another plane was going to crash into something.
00:50:22.040That's that's not the best time to make that decision right if we would have stopped and said okay like let's let's pass the very minimum things that we can do and let's look at expanding the particular parts of this that are important.
00:50:32.040That would have been a better way and you know what people would have thought well wait in a month the emotion will be gone.
00:50:38.460We might not be able to get that pass good that that means you probably shouldn't have passed it right.
00:50:45.680I mean if you can't get it passed in a month that it's probably not a good idea to pass it and we are taught it's you know they brought on a bunch of these kids that were in the shooting yesterday on CNN over the past 24 hours and they talked to them and and they make
00:51:01.780really emotional cases and they say why can't we do something and it pulls it obviously pulls your heartstrings.
00:51:07.960You know what they're saying they won't even say gun control most of the time.
00:51:10.700They'll just say you know we keep saying we need to do something and they won't do anything do something do something they won't even admit and they bring on these kids and the kids you know quote the stats like well you know this is the 18th school shooting of the year which is not true.
00:51:23.700If you missed our one we can maybe go through that again before the end of the show not true but the point is we shouldn't be we shouldn't be listening for leadership on the bills that we pass from teenagers who were just involved in a tragedy.
00:51:39.500That is not that's not how our government's supposed to work.
00:51:45.620That is something we can do as much as you mock it.
00:51:48.080But but that is not the way that you're supposed to pass legislation you know people have been so critical of Donald Trump for flying off the handle and not and letting his emotions get to him in these situations.
00:52:00.500These same media people hammer Trump over that all the time and yet here we are after every one of these tragedies where emotion is king it can't be king.
00:52:11.040That's why you have the second amendment the second amendment was specifically designed to say hey you can't just overturn this on a whim when something bad happens you got to really go through a process and I want it to be a long lengthy process it's always there for you you can always attempt it if we've made mistakes in this constitution you have this this process that's always available that you can turn these things around and that's happened in our history but it's supposed to be a slow deliberate process and that's the thing they want you to abandon.
00:52:38.920They want you to abandon logic and reason in these moments and and ignore the fact that gun violence is down by 50 percent just ignore that this is you should feel something right now so you should pass the bill that we want and that's it's a terrible way to do to run a country.
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00:54:42.100Good morning Pat and Stu thanks for letting me into your parlor.
00:54:48.240Listen you know when Murphy got up on the floor of the House of Representatives yesterday and immediately called for gun control I was screaming at the top of my lungs please one of you feckless conservatives get up there and point out that it's the last 50 years of progressive policies that have caused the situation where our moral fabric
00:55:10.060It's gotten to the point where kids are picking up guns and shooting up other kids.
00:55:14.520I mean it goes clear back to when they started it with the no-fault divorces and then got in through all the doors for the mental institutions open.
00:55:24.540You know you can they divided everybody up into groups that all hate each other.
00:55:29.040They they're all progressive policies.
00:55:32.120Every one of these shootings could probably be traced back to a progressive policy in somebody's life.
00:55:38.120That the progressives have taught them to be this way.
00:55:42.080And you know we need to instead of talking about gun control we need to every time someone brings it up we need to throw it right back in their face look at your progressive policies that have broken down our society and we need to end them now.
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01:00:35.960But so you can't determine what I what I need and what I don't need.
01:00:41.800But you know his callers are obviously going crazy because it's a conservative station and and they're asking him where he's coming from.
01:00:50.180Where does it say in the Second Amendment he asks that that that it's OK to have an AR-15 or an automatic weapon.
01:00:56.980Well I'll tell you where it says in the phrase shall not be infringed that's that's where it says yeah the Constitution doesn't list the things you can have it says the things that can't government can't take away from it's a charter of negative liberties right on purpose yeah on purpose right just for this reason because they knew they couldn't list every right you'll eventually have.
01:01:18.760So what they did was list the things government can't do to you right I mean you know I don't like listening to people talk about Kim Kardashian does not interest me I don't like it if I tried to ban it I could say well where in the First Amendment does it say you could talk about Kim Kardashian she's not even mentioned.
01:01:37.060Well yeah I know what they said is I can't stop you from talking about anything the First Amendment you can talk about it I can't it has nothing to do with what if they come up with new words that we've never heard before like it's such a silly argument and disingenuous people obviously like there's there's a thing going on where we say well we really want that we really don't want people with guns that can shoot a lot of people therefore we should apply that desire of ours and apply it and just insert it in the Constitution.
01:02:07.060and we'll find a slot for it that's kind of the way we've been looking at this for a long time that isn't I mean we even conservatives have done that over over time there's been I think excessive regulation on the Second Amendment and this comes from a guy who's not a gun guy I am not I am not necessarily interested in guns I don't particularly have that interest interest in going to the range other than ask me to go shooting all the time I don't have a passion for it at all I do have a passion for the Constitution of the Second Amendment exactly which says what was that phrase again Pat
01:02:36.780shall not shall not be infringed it's really super duper clear clear as it gets now I don't know that there's any other I don't know if there's a more clear amendment in the Constitution than the second I it just it's just so obvious shall not be infringed all right well there's you can't do this you can't do all of these gun regulations and that's why they deemed Chicago's regulations unconstitutional
01:03:06.780probably be unconstitutional as well same in D.C. and New Orleans and wherever else they're doing these egregious gun laws
01:03:14.140in D.C. it happened too right after Heller right in Chicago I mean you know we all know that it's an individual right to bear arms that's now been decided by the Supreme Court
01:03:23.200I know the left loves to talk about settled law yeah so I'm sure they'd accept that although for some reason that one's not settled
01:03:29.220I don't know why either is Citizens United and really anything they've ever had against them that that's not settled law eventually they'll get that overturned
01:03:37.060but I mean Roe versus Wade super duper settled settled constitutional law not in the Constitution yeah
01:03:42.680okay uh all right triple eight seven two seven back um I wanted to make sure we really quickly are make everyone aware of the real story
01:03:50.880yeah going on with the shooting okay Alex Jones has it oh he does he does and now he's not saying he's so often he does
01:03:58.100I want to make sure you understand he's not saying this is what happened oh okay okay he's very clear about that
01:04:03.280he's just bringing it up in a vocal way he's not saying it he's just making you aware of the possibility
01:04:09.660with his vocal cords which is different than saying saying okay all right all right let's listen to Alex explain
01:04:15.520the Democrats have been caught in false flags before I'm not saying this is a false flag he's not I'm just
01:04:21.900saying but they've been talking about massacres and things people don't leave them alone and
01:04:26.180remember the memo so if there are massacres threatening massacres that makes them suspects when they've been
01:04:32.700threatening massacres and who knows what mentally ill person they've wound up or what's happening or is
01:04:38.940this gang related we don't know the media will say that I said it's a false flag of the Democrats did it
01:04:43.320I did not say that no he didn't see he didn't questioning the long history that these folks
01:04:48.080have now they've been apparently I didn't say it I just I'm just saying it I did but I didn't say it
01:04:53.220I'm just saying that I didn't say it what when I said it at the beginning there were the Democrats
01:04:59.220have been talking about massacres everything what is a massacres I don't know but they've been
01:05:04.160massacres for a long time apparently if if they don't release the memo what was the memo what did
01:05:10.180that have to do with it I don't know I don't know he's a magician man but he didn't say it I want
01:05:14.540you to know he didn't say he didn't say he did not say it he just said they're well known for these
01:05:18.540false flags and this could be another false flag but he's not saying that the Democrats are doing
01:05:23.280this false flag every shooting with this guy every shooting and every terrorist attack is a false flag
01:05:31.720is there anything real that happens in the world no there are no flags there's no flags there's only false
01:05:36.940only false ones there's no shootings there's only pretend shootings right I'll bet you in two weeks
01:05:42.480maybe sooner he'll be saying these are uh crisis actors right I mean isn't this what we get from from him
01:05:50.580you wonder if he's learned his lesson he's had to make multiple uh public apologies for these for what
01:05:55.380he said immediately after that so I think maybe he's uh learned a lesson to to to couch it in that language
01:06:01.240which is why he's saying he's not saying right that's why because yeah he's gotten in some trouble
01:06:06.980because first of all he said sandy hook was a false flag and he discussed it often and then he says
01:06:11.900I never said sandy hook was a false flag well yeah you did yeah you you really did yeah kind of uh
01:06:18.960in fact more than kind of he just did he said exactly that yeah Earl in Ohio you're on the you're on the
01:06:26.380Glenn Beck program hi we have a high cap problem on our our weapons the common thread I believe
01:06:35.120is also the antidepressants in this country has been handed out like candy and nobody really follows
01:06:41.960this every one of these guys the smoking gun and the common thread is antidepressants and and and I've
01:06:49.580actually had a friend of mine I put you know actually at the veterans hospital it was mental and I want to
01:06:54.600tell you you can't just go into a psychiatrist and get a pill and then send them home to the family
01:06:59.500and that is what's happened is the valuation of an individual is not being evaluated on all these
01:07:06.920antidepressants and I truly believe if you're on an antidepressant you shouldn't have a gun be allowed
01:07:13.420to own a gun and it ought to be tracked wow that's a lot of people uh appreciate the call Earl but that's
01:07:19.960I mean that's tens of millions of people yeah who are on antidepressants I think it's you know
01:07:25.120important to look at this you know because I think as a part of this equation there should that be
01:07:30.760studied I think sure right I mean why wouldn't we look at it well yeah I think all of this stuff
01:07:34.760needs to except for gun control needs to be studied yeah I think there is a bit of a chicken
01:07:38.900and the egg situation with antidepressants in that you know you don't get on them unless you're
01:07:45.140having an issue so the people if the people who have issues and have shooting and commit shootings
01:07:50.060uh it's not necessarily surprising they would have had psychiatric treatment or uh you are on
01:07:55.660antidepressants or other drugs we don't know that you know like we don't know that the drug is causing
01:07:59.940it I mean they went on the drug for a reason right right so it's you know but I mean is it part of the
01:08:04.560equation to look at I think sure yeah I want to look at especially when you hear the side effects on
01:08:08.280all these drugs that are advertised wait it's an antidepressant that may cause me to become suicidal
01:08:13.340isn't that what I'm trying to prevent what wait what I just that's that's why I'm taking your
01:08:22.360medicine and so I won't be this diet pill may make you move in next to a buffet you may make
01:08:29.040poor real estate decisions based on buffet location if you ever pay attention to the list of side
01:08:33.980effects so there's about three benefits that are mentioned at the beginning of the commercial and
01:08:38.140the other 57 seconds are it may kill you it's true in a lot of different ways
01:08:43.180many so many of those are like the odds of it happening that's so low but they force these
01:08:48.260companies to put every single negative outcome in the commercial so it makes the advertisement
01:08:53.000virtually ineffective it's really strange this might even give me brain tumors and tuberculosis
01:08:59.960i don't want that uh josh in utah welcome to the glenbeck program
01:09:04.880josh you there guys hey yeah go ahead i think one of the biggest things that's the most common thread
01:09:13.580in all this is the greedia as i call them rather than the media because they're more about ratings
01:09:19.840and everything else and they want to be the first one out with the first name and everything else
01:09:23.580but if you look at all the killings that happen the weapon doesn't always stay the same but the media
01:09:30.220does yeah it's true yeah it's true and you know look the name's gonna get out there there's social
01:09:36.220media there's the internet i mean it's gonna get out there in some way but there's no reason to feed
01:09:39.520into it i still think too there's something about there's a difference between you know someone
01:09:44.120tweeting about your name and someone being on cnn dissecting all of your views for hours and then
01:09:49.840running documentaries about it no question um you know i think that's part of it but i mean
01:09:53.480another part of it is just we need to understand the real threats here and i think too much has been
01:09:59.760uh ignored and luckily we have people like stephen king uh the author uh who can kind of inform us
01:10:07.000and really hit home with the reality of the situation has he shared more wisdom he has uh now uh rick
01:10:13.660i don't know if you know rick wilson he's a republican consultant is on media a lot um he's you know he
01:10:19.620was talking about um about the idea of uh ms 13 being a danger and he said uh you're much more
01:10:28.380likely to be killed in uh in florida by an opioid overdose than ms 13 uh and he was making a point
01:10:34.620saying you know hey you know maybe ms 13 shouldn't be our top concern and he's you know kind of a guy
01:10:40.300who's uh you know he's opposes trump and so it's not necessarily a big surprise that he'd have that
01:10:45.340viewpoint uh but stephen king took him to task because he tweeted that rick wilson tweeted that
01:10:50.260before the shooting happened stephen king responded uh again again this is the tweet you're from rick
01:10:58.940wilson you're a hell of a lot more likely to be killed in florida uh than by an over opioid overdose
01:11:03.900than ms 13 stephen king's response don't tell that to the parents of the kids who got shot in
01:11:08.220broward county today sport because stephen king thought ms 13 the gang was a gun he thought it was
01:11:17.000ar 15 because he's an idiot my gosh oh yeah tell that he thought is unbelievable this is how dumb
01:11:28.160well did did the shooter use an ms 13 i don't know no one's even covering that i will say this uh for
01:11:35.120all the i mean because it's these things are freaking i hate these days i hate talking about
01:11:39.600this i hate that this keeps happening i hate that our society is sick enough that this continues to
01:11:45.260occur but man do mass shootings really bring out the stupid of so many people and and look and that's
01:11:53.600it's what we've been talking about the whole day pat it really does it brings out the stupid and at
01:11:57.720some level you can even understand it you're so emotional you're just going to say things that are
01:12:01.420stupid you're going to say ms 13 is a gun you're that stupid in those moments that's why you don't
01:12:06.680make laws in those moments it's not the time to make laws because you're overcome by emotion and
01:12:12.240you're not making decisions rationally uh so i mean i i guess that comes back to the theme of the day
01:12:17.840here and we've seen this we have so much you know crazy audio that we can play for you even
01:12:23.380crazier than the alex jones arguably um and we should get to that we have your phone calls as well
01:12:28.840at 888-727-BECK but i just you know i can't i can't get past the way people handle these things
01:12:36.880there is no real desire for someone to solve it they want this gun control bill they want to take
01:12:42.700away your guns because they've ideologically wanted they know it inflames their base and they've been
01:12:47.600wanting that forever and they try to use every one of these things to get that through when again
01:12:52.260even if let's say a quarter of the problem in their minds is on other issues why don't you take
01:12:56.560those up when you you don't have no control of the republic you don't have control of the senate
01:13:00.760you don't have control of the house you don't have control of the presidency you know there's
01:13:04.260opposition on the only thing you ever ask for why not ask for something else why not entertain the
01:13:09.100idea of of you know armed security guards which has been proposed by many again like would that help
01:13:15.200i mean obviously it would be harder to shoot up a school if someone was there a trained security
01:13:19.900agent with a gun now you might not like that in almost every case yeah since what was it 1956
01:13:25.400these have happened in uh gun-free zones yeah in almost every case it's like 98 or 99 percent of
01:13:32.660the cases because if unless you're a complete crazy uh person with no you know like uh there have been
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01:13:43.820but i mean like you know look at uh you know so many of the school shootings it's they just make an
01:13:48.440easy decision well i know there won't be guns there right i know there won't be guns in that
01:13:52.120movie theater i know i can walk into any of these places and i know there won't be resistance why
01:13:56.420would i go they don't happen that often at gun stores people don't go walk into the into uh you
01:14:01.920know the police department all that often and try to mass shooting generally speaking they go to places
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