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This week on the Glenn Beck Program, Pat and Stu discuss whether or not Roe v. Wade was worth it to Republicans and why it may have cost them some seats in Congress. Plus, the guys talk about why Hillary Clinton should have been on the show.
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888-727-BECK, the phone number. Uh, we're going to get into this, uh, political article about whether
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or not, uh, the Roe v. Wade overturning was worth it to Republicans because it may have cost
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Great to have you with us. Uh, it's Pat and Stu for Glenn this week on the Glenn Beck program.
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Uh, you know, a lot of people have been debating whether or not, uh, the overturning of Roe v. Wade,
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uh, was worth it. And I mean, I know I've heard you say this, Stu. I've said it on my show,
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uh, Pat Gray Unleashed, which happens right before this particular program or anytime you want on,
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uh, on demand. But of course it was worth it. If it saves babies' lives, it's worth a few seats in
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Congress. What? Yeah. Wait, I don't understand. Staggering. But elections are important. And they
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are. They are. They are. What's more important than an election? Could it be, I don't know,
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human life. Yeah. Babies' lives. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's fascinating. I mean, first of all,
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you got to start at the beginning. Was it really the cause of what happened during the election? And
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maybe we should go even a little more basic than this, Pat. And I would love to get your take on this.
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The, the right is generally speaking, really frustrated with the results from this election.
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And I think with some good reason, I think everyone kind of expected and hoped for better
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results than we got. Yeah. So I get that. But we got caught up in the furor of the last few months
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because before this, nobody thought the Republicans were going to regain the Senate. Yeah. You know,
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in fact, after the Dobbs was overturned, there were, there was high hopes on the left that they were
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going to win the House. Right. And look, they almost did. Yeah. There's no, there's no doubt
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about it. This was not a blowout by any means, but like Republicans cleared the hurdle they needed
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to clear, which was get the House so you can stop the worst instincts of the Biden administration.
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Right. That was the low, they had to clear that hurdle for this not to be a catastrophe.
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Unfortunately, they did. They did that. Right. They got the House. Now you look, you can look at this
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and say, okay, well they, you know, this wasn't the biggest, uh, wave election that we were hoping
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for. I mean, when you look at wave election, it's a little bit weird to look at it as far as just
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seats gained. Right. Because look, you know, yes, 2010 was a wave, right. Where you got 60 something
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seats, but they were starting from a much worse position. Like they started at like a hundred, I
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don't know, 179 seats or something before that election. They were, they had been devastated in 2008.
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So they got that. Yes. They made major gains in 2010. They made solid gains in 2014 as well.
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And this one, you know, a much smaller gain, uh, when it comes to seat total, but look,
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the main thing is you got control. That's what you had to do. You had to make it. So it was not
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unified government behind Joe Biden so they could get two bills passed, which means, uh, and just
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getting control, uh, committee chairmanships. Yep. It means being able to stop bills. Uh,
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you don't have to pass any of the Biden, uh, agenda and the investigations that are going
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to come from this. Right. And you might say, well, that's not enough. And, but you have to
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understand what was the upside here. The best case scenario, the best case scenario was, uh,
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you know, control of the house and the Senate, but still you weren't going to be able to do
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anything with that. Now the, the, except stop certain, the only thing that they judicial
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appointments and that's a big one, but that's really the only thing that they had a chance
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for that they, that they didn't get. Now I think, and we've talked about this on the air before as
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well, there was a possibility if they did well in this election and got to 54, maybe 55 seats,
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which was, you know, maybe the upside of what people were hoping for. If they were able to do
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that, there was a chance in 2024 at a filibuster proof majority, which would be very, very difficult
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now. That would be, you know, because they only got to maybe 50, maybe only 49 seats in the Senate.
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And this last race with Herschel Walker is really important. But that being said, they cleared the
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lowest hurdle. And you know, the, the, the theory here from this Politico op-ed is basically like,
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look, is there some evidence that the, that abortion and the overturning of Roe versus Wade
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was one of the reasons Republicans underperformed. And I think you can look at this. If you look at
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the, the evidence, there's some evidence pointing to that being part of it. Like, you know, the,
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the New York times did a thing about this and you'd expect the New York times to blame abortion
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here, but they, they had some, they had some relatively compelling evidence showing where
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certain states where abortion really wasn't on the ballot. There was no risk of abortion rights
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going away. In those states, Republicans tended to perform pretty well. New York is an example of
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this, right? There was no, obviously New York's not getting rid of abortion rights. You know,
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they want you to be able to abort, I think teenage years. Is that the current line for New York? I'm
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not sure. Yeah. I think 17, 17. Okay. And you'd say once you can vote, they can't abort you
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because they want their voters. So, but up to 17, 364 days, they can abort you. And that's not going
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to change in New York. So abortion really wasn't much of a topic there. And there Democrats did very
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poorly. Republicans did very well. The, there are other pieces of, in Virginia, a state with,
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that didn't have a gubernatorial race, nothing really on the ballot for abortion. Republicans did
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pretty well. Florida. Florida, yes, they, you know, Ron DeSantis is a big part of this story. But one of
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the things they did was pass a 15-week ban. So that's, that storyline's kind of already gone. They've
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already had their abortion debate. They had a 15-week ban. And so that one wasn't really on the ballot.
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Republicans did very well. Texas, there wasn't going to be much of a change in Texas. Republicans did
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very well. In purple states, where abortion could go either way, Democrats tended to do much better
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in places like Pennsylvania, Arizona, for example. And so that was part of the theory. Do I buy that
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entirely? Not really. I don't, I think it's, might be part of the story. But do you think, Pat,
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that it, this was the determinative factor in this election? Determinative? I, maybe not. No. Yeah.
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I think it factored in. Factored in. Maybe one of, one of many things. But I don't care. Candidate
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quality is another one. Yeah. You know. Definitely. That was an issue. Yep. There's a lot of things. If we
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would have had a better candidate than, than Dr. Oz in Pennsylvania, for instance, I, I think they
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easily defeat John Fetterman. Yeah. I mean, remember Dr. Oz was the better of the two candidates.
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Right. In that race. Like, he performed, he outperformed the gubernatorial candidate by almost
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10 points. Jeez. So, like, it was, that was not, again, that's a big, I think that's a bigger part
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of this. But let's just say, Pat, for argument's sake, let's say for argument's sake, it was actually
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all abortion. Right. Let's say the only reason Republicans would have had a wave election, they
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would have had 230 seats in the House, and they would have had 53 senators, and that, and the only
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reason that didn't happen was we overturned Roe versus Wade. Yeah. I'm giving that to you on a
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silver platter. Do you take that trade? Do you take the trade where you overturned Roe versus
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Wade, but you lose three or four seats in the Senate, and 15 seats in the House? Okay, let
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me think. Yes. Okay. Wait, you didn't take much time on that. I want to make sure you get
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enough time. Okay, wait. Yes. I'm not rushing you, Pat. Okay, wait. Let me, okay, yes. Yeah,
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okay. So, yes. Yeah. It's absolutely an acceptable trade-off. 100%. I would trade, how many elections
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would you trade to overturn Roe versus Wade? Right. I mean, in theory, all of them, right?
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Yeah. Now, of course, eventually you lose enough elections, and, like, the Constitution
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gets amended with abortion in it. So you can't lose forever, I suppose. But, like, in theory,
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I don't care. An election? Yeah. Who cares? Honestly, who cares? You're talking about 63
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million lives. Right. Right? Worldwide, it's 1.5 billion. I mean, that is staggering. Even
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hearing that number is so incredibly despicable. But still, here in the United States, where
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these elections might do some difference, and Roe versus Wade counts, 63 million lives
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that should be here are not because of abortion. And the fact that we can decrease that number
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by almost, I mean, you know, the first month they talked about potentially 10,000 abortions
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avoided. And this is before a lot of states changed their laws. It took them time after
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Roe versus Wade, and there was a waiting period and all these other things. Even with people
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changing from state to state and wanting to go, about 10,000 lives, they believe, were saved
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in that first month. Incredible. Yeah. Has there been a more impactful Republican policy
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ever? Most of them are terrible and don't do anything. Right. Like, if the entire policy
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from beginning to end was to save 10,000 lives, it would be the best thing the Republicans have
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ever done. No question. And it's like, it's inexplicable to think you should care about some
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Senate seat or some congressional seat if this is what is on the table. And, you know, Pat,
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I remind, I remind the people in the media trying to sort this out. The point of being, of winning
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an election is not to get Nancy Pelosi another year of $200,000 salary. It is not so some,
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so Matt Gaetz can go, you know, to a nice dinner with, you know, with a lobbyist. I don't know. I'm
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just picking Matt Gaetz because I wanted to pick a Republican. But you get my point. The point is,
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for things like this, to win policy issues like this, to make a difference, to save human lives
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like this. You trade, I can't even think of what the number would be when it comes to House seats
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or Senate seats to get that done. It was a 50-year goal of the party. And we didn't even think it was
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possible. That's true. Right up to, and including the day of the announcement. Actually, it was leaked.
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But up until then, there was no way did I think Roe v. Wade was going to be overturned. I didn't
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shoot that high for the Republican Party at any time in my lifetime. I never thought they would
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do it. This was like a miracle to us. Yeah. This was a miracle. And yeah, for that miracle,
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I'd trade a few Senate seats. What on earth do you try to win elections for? Yeah. Why do you do it?
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Why do we care? Why do people donate? Why do people knock on doors? Why do people show up at the polls?
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For the babies. To win, to save little kids. And is this the only issue? No, but it is the most
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important. Is there a more important issue that you could, that you could care about than baby's
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lives? I mean, it almost seems ridiculous to have to say it. I know. Like, yes, I care about my,
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my tax rates. Yeah. Yes. Not as much as your babies? No. Right. Do I want them to be 37%
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instead of 39.6? Sure. Of course. That would be wonderful. And yes, I care about those things.
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They are important. But I mean, we talk about like, hey, you know, CRT being taught in schools,
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at least the kids are alive. Yeah. Right? I mean, yes, CRT being taught in school,
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really big issue. We should really care about that. Make sure we do not teach overtly racist content
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in our public schools. Sure. Important. But you know what? I think we got to make sure the kids
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are alive to hear it first. Yeah. That's a good safety tip to me. Yeah. 888-727-BECK. More coming up. 60 seconds.
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You know, the expression, um, if it saves one life, how much more does that apply to 10,000?
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10,000 lives they estimated were saved. In one month. Just in the first month. Yeah.
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So that's a pretty big deal. That's a lot. And you know, we do look at these other topics and they
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are very important. But like the border, for example, what do we care? Why do we care about
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the border? Well, we don't want, for example, people crossing the border and committing crimes.
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Like what if someone murders someone, like some criminal drug dealer crosses the border,
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murders someone? Well, yes, that's incredibly important. But like, if we don't let the person
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be alive, we don't even, it never becomes an issue, I suppose. We don't, that person didn't
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even get a chance to create a life in which others mourned when they died. I mean, it's such
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a fundamental issue and so obvious. Yeah. That it's, of course you take it. And when it comes
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down to, I think like there's a real, this is something that is being created right now by
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the media, Pat. What they want to do is communicate to people on the right, Republicans in power,
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that if you go hard on the abortion issue and you try to say, hey, we shouldn't be killing any
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babies. Sorry. If you do that, it's going to cost you politically. And they know that these
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politicians are incentivized to keep themselves in power. So they're hoping they will create this
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fear among Republicans that they will run from the abortion issue. And that's because that's what
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they care about. They have this cult, this cult where ending baby's lives is the most important
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thing you could ever talk about. And it cannot go away. That right to end baby's lives can never
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go away. Got to be the most important thing ever. And like, I will be honest with you. Like, I mean,
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I, you know, Florida passed a 15 week abortion ban and like, look, is that better than the situation
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that we had before? Sure. A hundred percent. It's better. It's better than what we used to have.
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And I'm glad they passed something, but like, did we fight 50 years to eliminate 6% of abortions?
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No. Did we, was it a 50 year battle so that 94% of abortions can remain in place? Was that what we
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were doing? Because if that's what we were doing, we were really kind of wasting our time. Maybe,
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maybe not actually. Now that I think about it's still a lot of lives, but still that can't possibly
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be the end goal of this. Yeah, I know. It's, I understand that maybe that's all you can get
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done in Florida. It's at least seeming, it used to be a purple state. Doesn't seem like it is
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anymore. Now it's pretty much Alabama. Yeah. But Hey, like, you know, look, I don't know
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that a 15 week, the Lindsey Graham bill of like, let's just do 15 weeks. So we don't have to talk
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about it. People keep asking me uncomfortable questions about babies living. So please let's
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just pass. I don't like that. I don't like being asked questions about babies living. It makes me
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feel uncomfortable. How dare people ask a U S Senator about babies lives? How dare they?
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If we just banned 6% of them, then we don't have to talk about it anymore. Okay. Thanks,
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Lindsey. By the way, can I remind people that Lindsey Graham is a Senator from South Carolina?
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If Lindsey Graham was the Senator from Maine, I'd say, all right, we got a Susan call. I got it.
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You know, of course, do we, should we really have a, let me give you another example, Pat,
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you might think of, uh, did you know that Mitt Romney is up for reelection in 2024?
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Yes. Did you know that? I do know that. Did you know we have Mike Lee as a Senator in Utah?
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Were you aware of this? It shows what they could have. They could have somebody really good.
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Yeah. Instead, they have someone with one of the lowest conservative review scores
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in the entire Senate in Utah. Well, his name is well known. So what? How about getting somebody
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who actually cares about conservative values in that seat? And that's something that like, I,
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I understand when people say, well, Susan Collins, like, you know, that's all we can get in Maine.
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And that may very well be true. And honestly, there have been times like, for example,
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some of these bills that went through the Senate, I was happy to have Susan Collins in there instead
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of a Democrat. And when it was a 50-50 Senate, you could have easily lost that if you had a Democrat
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in that seat. So sometimes you got to deal with crap. You know, no offense to the Collins family,
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but her, her voting record is crap. And so sometimes you got to deal with that in a state
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like Maine. You don't have to deal with that in Utah. You don't have to deal with that with
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in South Carolina. You don't have to deal with that, Pat, in Texas when you have John Cornyn
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And yet so many states have that. South Carolina, Utah, Texas, you just mentioned, Alaska. Why?
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You know, we couldn't do so much better. When one out of five babies are aborted in this country,
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I mean, it's a Holocaust. Let's just call it what it is. That is, you know, six,
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I, yeah, like, for example, you know, we talked to, I know you talk about them as well. Preborn,
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you know, preborn.com slash stew. You can go there and donate if you, if you wish. This is not a paid
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commercial. But like, they're doing incredible work on this front. And they point this out
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when they talk about this issue, that one out of five babies never gets the chance to see the
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outside of a womb. How on earth can that be a thing in a civilized country? How can that possibly
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be true? And yet it is. That is not okay. And you know what? You got to trade. I'm so,
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I'm really sorry. We lost district 18. If that's what happened, but I'll take that trade any day.
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And welcome. 888-930-727-BECK. Is it 888-727-BECK? It's Pat and Stu for Glenn and joined by
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Jeffy to chew the fat a little bit. Hey, Jeffy. How you doing? I just wanted to stop in. I want
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to stop in because in light of uncertainty around Twitter and out of an abundance of caution, I want
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to come on and say that I'm pausing my Twitter account at JeffyJFR. Oh, wow. Right now. Wow.
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Really? Wow. Now we should be clear. We didn't ask you. Yeah. Well, they've reinstated Trump and the
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Babylon Bee. Yeah. Oh my God. Kathy Griffin, Jordan Peterson, Project Veritas. I... Not only that.
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Security concerns, Stu. Security concerns. You have security concerns. I do have security concerns. And what
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about them asking Twitter employees to work? Right. I mean... Not only work, they asked them
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to work extremely hardcore. Yeah. I... You can't abide it. I'm pausing. You can't abide it.
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There are lines in our society. You know, you can ask someone to work and the proper way to
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ask them is to ask them to work occasionally. Thank you. Yeah. Moderately and not always all the
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time. You know what I mean? I think it's too much to ask for them to work every day. While
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they're at work. Yeah. While they're... It's too much to ask them to work that whole time.
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Yeah. Ask them... Thank you. You can ask them to come in. Uh-huh. You can ask them to come
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in? Once a month. Okay. Once a month. All right. For a meeting. Okay. The rest of the time,
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they should be at home. Why can't we do the meeting on, you know, Skype or Zoom? I'm not saying you
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should do this. I mean, just for the savings as far as the climate goes, you should not ask them
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to come in. Right. At all. I'm saying legally, you should be... You are able to ask them to
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come in once a month. Now, there should be still food available for them if they decide
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to come in or not. Of course. Of course. The chef never gets a day off. Of course. You
00:23:54.300
know? That's true. The chef never gets a day off. No. Nor should he or she. None of the
00:24:00.300
people complaining about their work conditions ever care if the chef gets a day off. No,
00:24:03.860
they do not. They don't care about that at all. In fact, they'd rather the chef not have
00:24:07.540
a day off. No. So... You should be there. If they want to come in at midnight and work
00:24:11.020
the overnight, there better be prime rib being carved right front of them. Yes. There
00:24:15.100
better be there with my coffee. Thank you. Yes. Exactly. Okay. Okay. So now, we should
00:24:19.460
point out, for people who don't know, Jeff Fisher, host of Chew in the Fat, is a man known
00:24:25.440
throughout all of society as a man who takes deeply difficult, principled stands on an everyday
00:24:34.240
basis. Yes. And the fact that he's willing to... You're pausing... I'm pausing my Twitter
00:24:38.760
account. He's pausing his Twitter account. Wow. What a sacrifice. I know. What a sacrifice.
00:24:45.840
Okay. That's good. I'm going to come back. I'm going to start tweeting again. Wait, you're...
00:24:49.440
Yeah. At JeffyJFR is my Twitter account. Oh, you're done now? JeffyJFR. Is active
00:24:53.560
again? That's a big enough stand. Okay. Yeah, I'm good for it. No problem. That was a good
00:24:56.920
enough stand. Well, it's kind of like CBS, their stand. Thank you. Yeah. CBS took a stand
00:25:00.680
on Friday night that they were going to do the exact same thing that I just did. Oh, wow.
00:25:04.640
And they lasted 40 hours. Copycat. I mean, that is pathetic. They lasted 40 hours. What?
00:25:10.200
This is so weird. It is. Like, first of all, again, this guy should be a liberal icon. We
00:25:16.400
lose sight of this because he says, like, you know, things about free speech that I guess
00:25:22.380
is now exclusively a right-wing issue. It's free speech. Yeah. Which, by the way, thank you
00:25:27.580
for that left. Like, thank you for giving that one to us. We'll take it. We'll take it.
00:25:31.500
We're excited about that. But, like, because he says things about free speech, he's now
00:25:35.360
some conservative, I guess. The guy who created the largest electric car company in the world.
00:25:41.400
And created a space rocket company so we could leave the Earth and live on Mars.
00:25:47.780
In case global warming gets really bad. Yeah. Right? Yeah. That's a big part of the reason
00:25:51.940
why he's doing it. Yeah. So that guy, that guy who's been berating us about climate all of
00:25:57.700
this time is a right-wing hero because he wants people to be able to tweet their jokes.
00:26:02.540
Right. Like, well, what? But not Alex Jones, my friend. Not Alex Jones. That's true. He's a hard
00:26:07.420
no on Alex. I mean, look, I don't. Which is ridiculous. Come on. Elon is, I, I generally
00:26:13.340
speaking like the guy because I like the fact that he's sort of the, a billionaire in the way
00:26:18.060
that I would want to be a billionaire if I were a billionaire, which is just doing all the
00:26:21.500
crazy things you want with no care of the consequences. You know, like, so what? Like,
00:26:26.160
I'm going to make, you know, I'm selling flamethrowers now. I'm flamethrowers. Okay.
00:26:30.940
That's not what you're, okay. Like, I like that. He's got any perfume. Did you purchase
00:26:34.600
any of his perfume? I did not. I did not. He comes up with a joke and the next day it's
00:26:38.100
like a feature in his car, right? Like, it's like, like, there's some parts of that that
00:26:42.560
I think are just funny and like, it's like how you'd want to do it. I think I'll buy Twitter
00:26:46.260
now. Yeah. It's going to be 44 billion. Yeah. That's all right. Like, look, no one hates the
00:26:52.140
Dallas Cowboys more than the person speaking. I literally despise everything about this
00:26:57.860
team. However, I will say that one of the criticisms is like, oh, Jerry Jones is just
00:27:03.360
so involved. He's, he's involved with his team. He's always making these moves and he's
00:27:06.940
got to not be involved. Screw you. I paid how many billions of dollars to own this thing?
00:27:11.240
I'm going to do whatever I want. If I want to sign a Megan Fox to be a wide receiver because
00:27:19.520
See? I'm not opposed to that. You should do that. Right. You should do that.
00:27:24.020
Well, what do you mean I don't want to be, and that's the same thing with him. Like,
00:27:26.240
so I like that about him. Yeah. But like he, his, this whole thing that he's, he's the icon
00:27:31.940
of free speech. I mean, I, like, I don't know. I don't know if that's true, right? Like he,
00:27:37.740
because he really, his stance was basically like, well, the, the, the Sandy Hook stuff was really
00:27:43.780
For the kids. Right. He's, he's saying that that's why he won't, he's been a hard no on Alex,
00:27:47.420
no matter what. Right. And you know, look, it was really bad. I, you know, I tend to agree
00:27:52.040
with that analysis though. I mean, he has apologized for it. He's been sued for billions
00:27:56.440
of dollars. I don't know what else he's supposed to do.
00:27:58.720
That's the argument to the people that are arguing to Elon to let him back on. It's like,
00:28:02.780
dude, where's, if I thought you were free speech, what are we doing? He's apologized. He said,
00:28:07.380
he's sorry. You've got other liars. Um, I don't know, Joe Biden. On the, uh, on Twitter,
00:28:13.100
you've let back on what's going on. Yeah. They all, people from across the spectrum don't
00:28:18.080
necessarily understand his line, which is, again, it is a difficult job, right? To run one of these
00:28:23.720
tech companies. If you're going to have this rule where you say, oh, well, I'm going to moderate
00:28:26.680
certain content, you're never going to get that line. Right. It's never going to happen.
00:28:30.360
Correct. I mean, it seems to me there's a pretty bright line. If you're running for president of the
00:28:33.920
United States, you should be able to get an account. Like, honestly, like if you're just
00:28:38.100
some guy who wants to just get, get, be run for president just because you want to tweet
00:28:42.380
terrible racist things, pretty much you should just be able to be out loud on Twitter. A public
00:28:47.220
official should be on there. We should know what they're thinking. Absolutely. I don't know why
00:28:50.840
the Democrats don't want Trump on. I mean, it's like the best thing that could happen to Democrats
00:28:55.740
is having Donald Trump on Twitter. Absolutely. I think that's a, that's a hidden. They really want
00:29:00.180
him on. You'd think, I think it is. I think, you know, uh, publicly, oh, we hate him and we don't
00:29:06.480
want him on Twitter. But secretly they want him. Absolutely. Yeah. I think so too. Yeah. I mean
00:29:10.540
that their life revolved around his tweets. Are you kidding me? The whole thing about Alex Jones is
00:29:15.240
some of us don't like what he says. So what would that's free speech, right? You have to be able to
00:29:21.720
say things other people don't like. Otherwise there's no effort there. There's no, there's no issue
00:29:27.480
with free speech. If everybody says beautiful, wonderful, fabulous things that everybody loves,
00:29:32.520
there's no reason to get excited about free speech because nobody will ever deny you that.
00:29:38.440
And a lot of people claim that Alex had a lot of theories, right?
00:29:42.500
Well, not that one, but yes, some, a lot of people do, do claim that. Some people do claim that. But
00:29:48.020
like, for example, think about this from our perspective for a second. If your political opponent
00:29:52.860
is doing things on social media that embarrass them or anger other people, other voters,
00:29:59.360
moderate voters, you would encourage that behavior. Like if you had a switch right now
00:30:04.760
that said AOC could stop tweeting, would you pull it? I would be no. I'd ask her to tweet
00:30:09.000
twice as much. The more AOC can tweet, the better it is for conservatives. More Instagram lives.
00:30:13.900
Yes. Keep talking about how you don't understand what a garbage disposal is. Absolutely. Keep going
00:30:18.760
and blabbing as much as possible. If AOC is the face of the Democratic Party, it's nothing but good
00:30:26.360
for conservatives. And like, look, I know a lot of people love Donald Trump. There's tons of them.
00:30:31.420
We also understand that a lot of people hate him and a lot of moderates won't even consider voting
00:30:36.020
for Republicans if he's the guy. That's just true. And so if you're a Republican, you, you know,
00:30:44.600
I mean, a lot of Republicans say, please stop the tweeting, please. You're great. You've got great
00:30:48.740
policies. You're doing great things. You look at what you're doing on the border. Keep doing that.
00:30:52.200
Stop the tweeting. Stop just doing this. It doesn't help. Like they, they just gave that
00:30:57.780
to conservatives. They said, okay, now I can't tweet anymore. Yeah. Now look, it's sort of a silly
00:31:03.220
debate because he just posted stuff on truth social and then all the reporters screenshot it and posted
00:31:08.420
on Twitter anyway. Well, not CBS while they were taking their stand. CBS did not do that.
00:31:12.920
And that was a solid 40 hours. And that me when I took my stand. Wow. I mean, I didn't, I didn't
00:31:18.540
report what Trump was saying. You were, that was brave. Well, are you thinking about writing a book
00:31:23.260
about the period where you paused your Twitter account? That's a good idea, actually. It is.
00:31:28.820
That is. You too can take a stand. That's what reporters do is they take these brave stances and
00:31:33.460
then they write books about those brave stances. That's a good idea. Yeah. Like that's what they did
00:31:37.340
with Sam Bankman Freed. Like they all took these brave, like this man, a leader among men.
00:31:42.920
Yes. A man who is here to save our world, our planet. Oh, what? He screwed everybody
00:31:49.620
out of $50 billion? Oh. Oh. Oh. We have a podcast about the rise and the fall of Sam Bankman
00:31:55.020
Freed. Hosted by the same reporter who built him up eight months ago. Now that reporter is
00:32:02.180
going to make millions of dollars telling you the story they should have told you originally.
00:32:05.940
Oh, that's just agonizing. How do they even pull this crap off? How much did you lose
00:32:11.800
on FTX? How much? Nothing. I had nothing in FTX, thankfully. Nothing. Nothing. I had
00:32:17.040
not one dime in FTX. I did not even have an account. I lost $8 billion. Did you?
00:32:20.940
$8 billion? $8 billion. Wow. Oh, $8 million. Not billion. Oh, $8 billion.
00:32:25.640
I made billion. You had $8 billion in FTX. Oh, cut me short. Yeah. And you're still
00:32:29.520
here doing this? Wow. Really? It's interesting. You did not live the lifestyle of a billionaire.
00:32:33.740
No. You know? He didn't. I tried to hide it. Yeah. Good for you. You know. You're still
00:32:37.740
one of those guys. You know what? You're like, what's his face? You know, from Omaha. The
00:32:41.920
Omaha Oracle. Oh, yeah. Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett. Warren Fat Piece of Crab Buffett.
00:32:47.400
He drives the same vehicle he drove in 1947, and he lives in the same mud hut that he built
00:32:57.080
in 1948. He does live in the same mud hut. It's only been remodeled a hundred times.
00:33:04.160
Slightly. Slightly. Now it's an 85,000 square foot mansion, but it is. But it's the same mud hut
00:33:10.600
that he built in 1948. Okay. That's exactly what they do for Warren. That's unbelievable.
00:33:21.880
It is. All right. So I do have some good news, though. Okay. For you, Pat, and maybe for you,
00:33:26.640
Stu, it could bring you back to what you consider is the dark side now. Researchers at the University
00:33:32.840
of Washington's Institute for Health, and I love them, they've released a new study saying
00:33:37.700
health effects associated with the consumption of unprocessed red meat. Oh, yeah. It's not
00:33:44.940
as bad as everybody said it was. Yeah. In fact, it may have little or no ill health benefits.
00:33:50.480
So we're back to eating meat. No bad benefits. First of all, Jeffy, you don't even stop eating
00:33:55.580
meat for the broadcast. You literally eat like steak fingers in the middle of your podcast.
00:34:02.940
Had you paused red meat? There's little or no health risks. Yeah. Okay. So I'm just saying
00:34:07.140
I haven't had any red meat today. I have not either. That's brave. By the way, this was the
00:34:14.380
state of the science beforehand. If you go back, remember we interviewed the guy, Aaron Carroll,
00:34:19.820
I think is his name. He wrote a book called The Bad Food Bible, which is a great book if you like
00:34:26.100
reading about this sort of stuff. But it goes through all of the dumb health advice we get on food,
00:34:31.060
about these foods you're not supposed to eat, and goes through the actual evidence on them. And
00:34:35.420
there's a whole chapter on meat where it goes through all of the evidence and it shows
00:34:39.900
little to maybe slightly positive effects for eating some red meat. Like if you overdo it,
00:34:46.560
yes, it can be a problem. Well, that's everything though. Yeah, that is kind of. And that's kind
00:34:49.840
of the whole, you kind of read that in the entire book. Everything in moderation. That should be the title
00:34:53.360
of my book life story. It's everything in moderation. Because it's the opposite of what you've done in your life.
00:35:00.040
Is that why? That's how I live my life. I would, I would, like, Pat.
00:35:04.520
Everything in moderation. That's how I've lived my life.
00:35:12.720
From Jeffy? Oh my gosh, it would be incredible.
00:35:16.080
Seriously, Jeffy. Everything in moderation. That would be funny.
00:35:19.800
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pat and stew on the clempeck program today uh a 22 year old gunman killed five people injured 25
01:19:55.600
more in an lgbtq nightclub in colorado springs colorado man has colorado been beset with mass
01:20:03.940
shootings or what uh it's gotta be the worst state for them it's gotta be at least the big
01:20:09.620
you know sort of headline grabbing versions of it really really sad
01:20:13.960
because the batman movie uh shooting that happened at one of the midnight showings that was there
01:20:19.400
of course columbine um you had a shooting at colorado springs last year and another one this year
01:20:25.960
the suspect uh in the shooting at club q was identified um i don't even say his name
01:20:33.180
um but he was identified by police they don't they don't necessarily have a motive
01:20:43.880
huh wonder if that'll continue that's interesting
01:20:47.760
uh after entering the nightclub though he immediately opened fire before at least
01:20:53.020
at least two people inside the club confronted and fought him
01:20:57.800
i mean that's really something a couple of heroes here yeah and a couple of people who did this
01:21:03.660
you know without being armed right and it sort of puts in the focus of how horrible the duvalde
01:21:10.640
situation was when you had right actual law enforcement heavily are doing nothing doing nothing
01:21:16.440
really really makes the that situation seem even more frustrating when you do see that this is the way
01:21:22.440
a lot of times it does stop obviously we have seen many many shootings be stopped by
01:21:27.320
citizens with weapons themselves which has been been something that the media doesn't usually like
01:21:34.520
to talk about but we also have seen it just people rushing rushing a shooter and right some of them
01:21:40.000
you know paying lost their lives yeah doing that but they've been able to stop it as well
01:21:44.260
but these uh these people uh accosted him one of them took a handgun from him and hit him in the head
01:21:52.820
with it and that stopped the shooting yeah and they held him down until i guess police showed up
01:21:58.400
which police i guess got there pretty quickly too uh so just uh a great effort from two people just
01:22:07.160
happened to be at the club as far as we know yeah uh now of course the media is trying to make this
01:22:12.180
into um you know this was this is basically the conservative ideology in action oh geez which it
01:22:18.300
is not um we might want to note that conservative uh individuals we say law and order a lot murder
01:22:25.500
would fall outside of that particular paradigm seems that way you know usually you'd say murder
01:22:31.460
bad you know it was mentioned it actually in a very important book uh that took many conservatives
01:22:36.380
oh really called the bible uh and yeah they specifically say i don't know much about it
01:22:42.320
yeah just it's an old book but it it's in there it says don't don't murder really it says like you
01:22:48.840
shouldn't do it i think is and a lot of conservatives you think follow that you know the word
01:22:52.880
you ever hear the word shout i have says thou shalt not not not murder okay so don't do that don't
01:23:01.220
and everyone knows not to do it it's not part of the conservative ideology even if you don't
01:23:05.100
necessarily agree with whatever was going on in the club if you go and murder people at the club
01:23:10.140
you are way way way worse than anything that's ever happened in any club right you are uh the lowest
01:23:19.220
form of human being possible committing the worst crime you can commit and here's the thing
01:23:24.640
one Wednesday once you go through a trial i hope the ending is you are executed that's what i hope
01:23:30.320
happens if you happen to be the person who goes in and does something like this in a club no matter
01:23:34.060
what they're doing in the club you are an enemy to all humanity my guess is 99.999 percent of all
01:23:41.380
conservatives would agree with that yes i think so uh it's interesting because police are trying to
01:23:46.380
decide whether this was a hate crime uh as if you know it's a strange concept to me like other
01:23:52.960
shootings are done with a lot of love yeah very love and care how many love and tender care yeah uh
01:23:58.660
they're not hate that's has nothing to do with it uh i'm shooting out of love here in in this
01:24:03.720
particular shooting and look it is the media every single time there's a mass shooting tries to say
01:24:10.660
it's conservatives until the facts come out and that's disproved like they just try to grab the
01:24:14.580
news headlines they do it every single time no matter what the cause is yes they always do the
01:24:18.740
same thing and i think like when you see a situation like this where a a lgbtqqia2 plus
01:24:25.860
uh club is is targeted like you know a lot of people are gonna that's not that's gonna be a lot
01:24:32.420
of people in the middle even some conservatives gonna be like god i hope this isn't someone
01:24:35.280
who thinks drag shows for children are bad and is trying to make some statement it's understandable to
01:24:42.080
think about that though if you do remember the pulse nightclub shooting which was universally
01:24:47.060
promoted as a conservative trying to kill gay people what it was not yeah what i'm not being
01:24:51.440
that case after all right after all of uh the evidence came out that was actually not what
01:24:56.140
happened at the pulse nightclub shooting so we look we don't know where this is going to go
01:25:01.560
obviously the the sensible thing to do is to wait and understand the details of the case before you
01:25:08.420
form of course the left is not going to do that they're not going to do that they only do that
01:25:12.660
they only do that in cases like you know uh pelosi right where they they don't know we don't know
01:25:18.080
what's going on they're like you gotta wait till all the details come out you gotta wait you gotta
01:25:20.660
wait you gotta wait because this could be bad for us well i prefer to wait for both like i'm not
01:25:24.380
guessing at what was going on at pelosi's house i want to know the information i want to know what
01:25:29.860
the investigation shows i want to know what the video shows and the same thing here i want to i do want
01:25:34.680
to know what this person's motivation is i will never say his name because i don't want
01:25:37.820
someone to get to to chase the glory in this way but these things do happen and whatever the
01:25:45.040
motivation is you know i know i know of no conservative who would do anything but shun
01:25:51.080
this type of activity and want it punished to the fullest extent of the law and apparently the guy's
01:25:56.540
just crazy he held his his mother hostage last year with some kind of bomb threat and there was a
01:26:05.080
standoff with police last year and so the guy's obviously just nuts was that a hate crime too or
01:26:12.940
was that done with love i don't know i don't know mom so that was a loving okay why why let me ask
01:26:19.200
you this pat why why why why was this person not in jail not in jail yeah it's a good question i feel
01:26:27.180
like when it like again i keep coming back to and i use you often as the example when i think this
01:26:31.920
of this but like you drive 27 miles an hour in a 25 mile an hour zone and you get pulled over for
01:26:38.060
right right yes and you get you never get off they never say yeah a little written warning for you
01:26:43.880
virtually every time every time they give you a ticket i feel like if i did something like
01:26:49.700
got in a standoff with police over a bomb threat i would be in jail for a really long time like i i would
01:26:57.600
expect to be in jail yeah for a long time yeah it seems like everyone else who does this just just
01:27:03.300
out oh he's out he can go yeah but you know go buy a gun yep um you know and it's not this is not a
01:27:10.140
criticism of of our second amendment rights which are incredibly important but like we do have
01:27:13.960
limitations on them when you commit felonies usually like right you don't allow that anymore
01:27:18.840
but this guy i don't know we don't even know if this guy bought a gun or if it was legal or what
01:27:22.300
but like why was he outside and able to do anything why was he able to enter a club yeah
01:27:28.440
seems like a pretty egregious crime when you're holding your mother hostage yeah and threatening
01:27:33.000
her with some kind of bomb material yeah and it seems serious and like while the republicans are
01:27:38.220
going out of their way and i think this is smart to say the hunter biden investigation well that's
01:27:42.900
that's about joe biden and his financial crimes and they're serious and i think that's a smart focus
01:27:47.200
for them to to be on but it's like i think to myself like let's just say i decided to have kind
01:27:53.260
of a crazy weekend and i just lined up prostitute after prostitute and did drug after drug off of
01:27:59.600
their naked bellies and decided to film myself on my cell phone camera naked most of the time naked
01:28:05.980
most of the time doing drugs uh hook it up with hookers and then i decided you know what i'm also
01:28:12.980
going to do i'm going to record that on my phone i'm going to store it on my laptop they're going to
01:28:17.180
drop my laptop off at a computer repair shop and then leave it there forever leave it there
01:28:21.880
forever so it gets leaked to the press okay the fbi has a copy of it i feel like i might get in
01:28:27.060
trouble for such things i know that's not the big story when it comes to hunter biden but i feel as
01:28:33.900
if i myself might run into a little legal trouble if i did all that stuff and also by the way one of
01:28:42.660
the women i was hooking up with i impregnated and then just left them so they had to have the
01:28:46.940
doesn't seem to be any consequences for this guy for crimes no right like i understand that like
01:28:53.260
someone hooking up with a hooker or doing drugs is not as big a deal as billions of dollars being
01:28:59.800
shuttled between joe biden and his i understand those are bigger issues but like why aren't there
01:29:06.220
consequences why what like some of this stuff happened in red states it's not like it was all
01:29:13.900
bright blue states why aren't there consequences for like the boring stuff that hunter biden was
01:29:19.300
doing like hookers and and and and blow and all the other things he was doing like i feel like i
01:29:25.140
would get in trouble for it do you think you just get away do people we should have asked jeffy when
01:29:29.880
he was in here do people get away with that like if you're if you are hooking up with hookers you're
01:29:36.400
doing drugs you're committing financial fraud you've got gun crimes you're lying on federal forms
01:29:43.960
right to acquire a firearm do people just routinely get away with that i don't think so i feel like i
01:29:51.300
would definitely get in trouble i'm pretty sure you would and so would i but i guess if you're a
01:29:56.840
president's son that gives you maybe that's is that it yeah i guess so is he just special in some
01:30:01.960
way he's special because you know they talk about this all the time when they talk about uh you know
01:30:06.060
well we need to we need to keep there's uh our prisons are there's a higher proportion of uh of
01:30:13.240
african americans in prison and we need to make sure that we we we have to stop that this is the prison
01:30:19.040
industrial complex you know this left-wing argument that comes all the time what they leave out of that
01:30:23.480
argument is a large reason why there is a a a a problem with this is because you're enforcing the
01:30:34.380
gun control laws liberals passed when when you say anyone that does you know doesn't go through all
01:30:41.340
the perfect processes uh for uh for gun crime when they don't go through that process correctly
01:30:48.500
a lot of times what you're doing is just scooping up 18 year olds in cities who are want to be kind
01:30:56.020
of fake gangbangers and probably are never going to use the gun but went and got a gun in some illicit
01:31:00.640
way and then they wind up in prison these are all left-wing laws that wind up gun control scooping up
01:31:07.960
african americans and putting them in prison for long periods of time because the left has decided
01:31:13.180
that's what they're going to do with these laws and you know hunter biden doesn't get
01:31:17.760
punished for them i mean i understand why someone who's saying wait a minute why is hunter biden
01:31:22.880
getting away with this and my teenage son who got messed up i mean mixed up with the wrong crowd for
01:31:27.320
a couple months and got caught with a gun oh it's a legitimate point it's a legit point it is it is a
01:31:33.020
legit point that many on the left have it's a it's a different uh it's a different society for those of
01:31:40.480
us who are not among the elite it's sad but apparently true uh triple eight seven two seven
01:31:48.700
uh you know the shooting that uh doesn't seem to be getting any attention is what happened at the
01:32:04.440
university of virginia where uh three black football players were shot and killed what was five injured
01:32:11.620
or something to that effect um and the media is not interested in that one at all they just don't
01:32:18.040
care uh it's just another black on black crime and i guess you just ignore that it's unbelievable
01:32:25.360
really unbelievable um and they're they're not even they're not even talking about the gun used or
01:32:32.560
whether there should be gun control because of this or i i just don't hear virtually anything about it
01:32:39.800
it's really amazing it really is and these things come and go they come and go as they as they do because
01:32:48.020
of how they serve the left-wing cause if they serve the left-wing cause they stay around for a very long
01:32:53.160
time if they do not they go away almost immediately that is absolutely the state of our media right
01:32:58.440
now if uh i mean like the most egregious example of all time i believe pat tell me if you if you
01:33:05.680
think there's a better one the most egregious example of all time is the 2017 baseball shooting
01:33:10.940
where a bernie sanders campaign volunteer took a you know i think it was an ar-15 i don't remember
01:33:17.680
but took a long rifle yeah to uh to a baseball field to murder 10 percent of elected republicans
01:33:26.260
in washington dc obviously he didn't succeed but he certainly tried he was shooting almost 10 percent
01:33:31.560
of them yes they were that's what he was trying to do kill every single player yeah on the field and
01:33:35.620
again almost killed uh scalise scalise he survived they all survived thankfully but you know that
01:33:41.940
and that story came and went in an incredible think about this i mean like we still like look
01:33:48.460
there are terrible things that have happened in our history the gabby giffords thing is one of them
01:33:53.520
it was a terrible terrible tragedy was not done by a right winger it was done by a man an insane
01:33:57.720
person who believed gabby giffords had some effort some world effort against grammar or something it
01:34:03.420
was something to do with grammar it's a weird conspiracy theory about very bizarre very strange
01:34:08.300
had nothing to do with right wing nothing to do with it ideology that thing is still out there i
01:34:13.480
mean look there's a real strong argument that a big portion of the reason why mark kelly is going to be
01:34:17.620
a senator and not blake masters is because there's a lot of built-in sympathy for this family who went
01:34:21.820
through a real tragedy yeah but it had nothing that story is still talked about constantly they're doing
01:34:29.240
another series with her about this now jeez where you know steve scalise never had anything like this and
01:34:37.540
and it was this was a and they tried to even convince people it wasn't a politically motivated
01:34:41.640
shooting and they tried to do everything they could to convince people specifically asked for
01:34:47.640
the republicans where are the republicans where are they and went there with the purpose with the
01:34:53.100
intent of shooting them and that's not politically motivated right where we think of the nancy pelosi
01:34:59.480
thing the nancy pelosi thing was well let's just say it's absolutely as described on the surface
01:35:04.500
right a person who let's just say we don't even know this but really didn't like nancy pelosi for
01:35:09.900
political reasons broke in wanted to hold pelosi hostage let's just say it was the left-wing dream
01:35:16.540
of this scenario because this is what they would want to happen even if that was true it's nowhere near
01:35:24.000
the sort of story impact as trying to murder 25 republicans at the same time right right all while
01:35:33.620
they're on the baseball field in a point in a pre-planned attack by somebody it's nowhere near
01:35:38.460
that story it's bad but it's not that story you know it's you know it's it's similar to the
01:35:44.660
kavanaugh uh threat that went on and nobody talks about that nobody cares today they didn't even talk
01:35:52.000
about it on that weekend's sunday shows the we it brett kavanaugh was almost murdered
01:35:59.780
it's a person was arrested for attempted murder of a sitting supreme court justice
01:36:06.800
and that weekend it was not brought up on any of the sunday shows
01:36:13.700
that's amazing that's amazing absolutely incredible it's like i you don't want to keep fighting
01:36:21.240
the same battles you don't want to keep fighting and saying hey the double standard exists i swear
01:36:26.860
it does this is a you know scientific consensus has science has been settled on this one pat you
01:36:33.040
pretty much yeah it's it's it's despicable i mean to the point where laurie lightfoot who you might
01:36:38.240
recognize as the mayor of chicago talking about the shooting in colorado springs and she made the
01:36:46.200
point that uh she's sick of this stuff that's not the word she used but um she claims to be sick and
01:36:55.920
tired of people being shot wow why don't you do something about your own town then uh and it was
01:37:06.000
obviously mentioned on twitter multiple times um hey how come you're not sick of this stuff in
01:37:12.060
chicago where 615 people have been murdered this year alone 615 and it's about 50 to 60 to 70 shot
01:37:25.240
every single weekend uh so you might i don't know they're very selective about what they're sick of
01:37:34.720
and what they're not sick of and yeah that's very selective that's really pathetic i mean it's like
01:37:39.640
does is do any of your advisors say laurie laurie come on come on not done no no you can't
01:37:45.500
it's hard to believe they don't right you know i mean come on i understand you got to do this thing
01:37:50.180
where we all tweet about the story in the news today but like come on you can't possibly think
01:37:54.660
it's appropriate for you to talk about other people having murder problems we are literally
01:38:01.060
known as the murder capital of the world you can't i mean i just doesn't work you just can't do that
01:38:15.940
pat and stew for glenn uh joe biden turned 80 yesterday wow that's great great accomplishment
01:38:31.640
80. oldest president of course in the history of the country uh by a lot um they used to complain
01:38:40.360
because ronald reagan was 77 at the end of his presidency uh they were all freaked out about that
01:38:48.640
this guy's 80 yeah oh and it's fine the new york times is talking about how
01:38:55.400
oh yeah he's still according to experts in aging he still has a lot going in his favor
01:39:03.980
they don't say what but but that he has a lot going for himself a lot going in his favor yeah
01:39:12.680
yeah i mean i guess he probably has excellent doctors around him well maybe we're paying for
01:39:17.100
incredibly solid health care for him which is good sure he can still walk sometimes sort of sort of
01:39:24.060
kind of shuffles around but he's still mobile so i guess he's got that he can shake hands with the
01:39:29.940
air uh when he has no idea where he's going or where to turn or how to get off the stage he does
01:39:36.860
that a lot which is cool and i will say like you know i think it's pretty easy to say okay well 80
01:39:42.460
years old it's too old to be president a lot of people are making that argument which you know i'm
01:39:46.400
it's something to talk about but not everybody is like joe biden and completely out of it i mean
01:39:51.220
trump is almost 80 yeah uh you know and i think but in much better shape much i mean he's not
01:39:58.280
exactly in the best physical shape of the world but no but mentally mentally he's much more on top
01:40:03.120
of it yeah and but i mean i won't even use him as an example we talked to alan dershowitz last week
01:40:09.080
now alan dershowitz we should point out this got this got lost because it came out either the day
01:40:13.660
before or the day after the election i can't remember but the central accuser
01:40:17.840
in the entire jeffrey epstein saga virginia juffray uh-huh basically released a statement
01:40:28.580
saying i might have misidentified alan dershowitz yeah oops uh-oh oh okay that's a little accusing
01:40:37.540
him for years accusing him for years he was really magnanimous about it though right he was he was
01:40:43.320
because i think he sees it as a bigger story yeah um than just himself but i mean i i he he was
01:40:50.800
basically canceled for this you know he part and i think it was also partially because he had
01:40:55.160
occasionally defended donald trump which people did not like on the left but he they took the
01:41:00.360
opportunity to take these accusations seriously and run him out of all sorts of institutions he had
01:41:06.540
been part of for decades and uh does he get his reputation back i don't i don't know i think because
01:41:12.420
i i was in election hell and completely missed the story i didn't even see it and so if we if we
01:41:18.960
didn't see it and where we're watching the news every day i gotta imagine the average person did not
01:41:23.520
see it but the reason i bring dershowitz up is we had him on the air the other day he went through
01:41:27.320
this entire saga again talked about all sorts of constitutional issues as it relates to the
01:41:32.100
president these ongoing investigations blah blah blah blah he's 84 and like i wouldn't agree with
01:41:37.960
alan dershowitz on policy wow right like he would not be but he is absolutely uh mentally agile enough
01:41:45.880
to be president of the united states now i would he would pass all sorts of liberal things i wouldn't
01:41:50.440
want but he's absolutely like i mean the man talks circles around pretty much everybody in the world
01:41:55.820
yeah and he's 84 years old so it doesn't have to be this way it just is this way with joe biden
01:42:01.100
right he's 80 years old and he he has the mental acuity acuity of 180 year old and that's a problem
01:42:08.440
yep you know i you wonder how these things how bad things happen i mean the guy is look he's on he's on
01:42:15.720
the edge here he does not you know is it possible possible that they came to him and said hey you did
01:42:25.740
pass a bill for the student loan to uh relief they signed it remember and he said oh yeah and then
01:42:31.900
went out in front of the american people were like we signed a bill to resume to stop uh student loans
01:42:36.520
from needing to be paid and it passed by a couple of votes like is that possible that they just lied
01:42:42.480
to him and said hey joe you remember you signed that bill i doubt it or is he just lying i think he's
01:42:48.680
just lying i i think the more likely makes things up yeah it's not the scare that's the best outcome
01:42:53.660
yeah the the thing we can all root for is our president is lying to us that's the best possible
01:42:58.640
answer for some of the stuff he's just a bad politician lying to us all the time knowing that
01:43:04.820
i mean he knows i mean everybody knows that the student loan relief program was completely
01:43:12.340
unconstitutional every single person in the media every single person in washington they all know
01:43:20.500
with 100 certainty that this is an unconstitutional plan they all know it they did it to try to buy
01:43:27.520
some votes before the primaries and they all know that if it gets in front of the courts it will be
01:43:32.520
destroyed because it obviously obviously is not the way you're supposed to pass a law if it was
01:43:38.920
if it were why on earth did donald trump do any of the things he tried to pass why did he try to
01:43:44.020
repeal obamacare why didn't he just say yeah yeah you don't have to you don't have to you don't have
01:43:47.920
to do it anymore why didn't they just do that well they had to go through congress to try to do it and
01:43:52.840
it failed right uh and they were unable to do it why why did they do these things this way well
01:43:59.400
they followed the rules largely sometimes they didn't and they got they got shot down in the courts and
01:44:05.660
they should have been shot down in the courts but like we all know that you can't just pass a
01:44:10.640
one trillion dollar bill without asking anybody like what what kind of you can't just say one day
01:44:18.460
we're just going to spend a trillion dollars obviously that has to go through congress everybody
01:44:22.900
knows that why did the biden administration try to push for a stimulus package or try to push for
01:44:29.920
obamacare why didn't they just do it because they couldn't do it everyone knew they couldn't do it
01:44:34.760
and and lee this it was the same thing that happened with daca and many other things they
01:44:40.260
just decided to do it anyway and then eventually got shot down on the courts at least giant chunks
01:44:43.960
of it did they just they they don't care it's like it's like one of their main donors um sbf or
01:44:51.840
whatever his name is sam bankman freed who supposedly had 16.5 billion dollars even more than that at one
01:45:00.060
point i think they said he was worth 30 billion and then he went down to 16.5 billion then he lost
01:45:04.740
99 of his wealth from there on 96 of his wealth whatever it was uh and i mean i think a lot of
01:45:13.880
people probably knew ftx was just a paper tiger too uh you know the overseer of enron the guy who
01:45:22.900
oversaw the enron process the collapse said the collapse said he's never seen anything like this
01:45:30.980
yeah this is this is incredible he says i have 40 years over 40 years of legal and restructuring
01:45:36.000
experience i've been the chief restructuring officer and or chief executive officer in several
01:45:40.120
of the largest corporate failures in history including enron never in my career have i seen
01:45:45.400
such a complete failure of corporate controls and such a complete absence of trustworthy financial
01:45:51.140
information as occurred here that's amazing goes on to talk about how um uh that they valued the
01:45:57.800
cryptocurrency now this is incredible because they claimed 5.5 billion dollars they were holding
01:46:03.000
in cryptocurrency so that was what their claim was 5.5 billion dollars okay the actual number
01:46:08.340
659 000 oh my gosh how on wow on earth i had not heard that figure yet how on earth um
01:46:18.940
wow they say uh the ftx group did not maintain centralized control of its cash cash management
01:46:28.720
procedural failures included the absence of an accurate list of bank accounts can you imagine
01:46:35.740
this company was running they didn't even know what their bank accounts were wow um goes on to talk
01:46:42.300
about how uh you know in the bahamas ftx group funds were used to purchase homes and other personal
01:46:49.560
items for employees and advisors uh they didn't include um they did not include uh appropriate books
01:46:57.920
and records security controls are you supposed to should you do that i think you should i think
01:47:03.080
they they ask you that's weird no it might be a little bit too much it's too much yeah that's too much
01:47:07.160
i don't want to uh they they talk about how um they were transferring large amounts right before
01:47:14.960
all this came out which is always a big red flag my i think my favorite example though is this pat
01:47:19.520
you know you gotta get a good you gotta get a good accounting firm you know you can't you're running
01:47:23.340
a big multi-billion dollar company you gotta have a good accounting firm right you know the oh yeah
01:47:26.740
the blue chip ones yeah um now they did have an accounting firm um prager metis
01:47:33.300
it was a firm this is this is a quote from the the document from the new ceo the guy who
01:47:39.000
unwound enron uh prager metis a firm with which i was not familiar which is a bad sign if the guy
01:47:46.960
who's like in charge of all these things has never heard of your accounting firm i was not familiar
01:47:51.180
with and whose website indicates that they are quote the first ever cpa firm to officially open its
01:47:57.820
metaverse headquarters in the metaverse platform decentraland
01:48:02.500
they were a metaverse accounting company oh my gosh
01:48:09.280
so it didn't really exist it didn't exist in the real world but i guess they were bragging about
01:48:16.120
being in the metaverse and like you know you let's pick the one in the metaverse man let's do that
01:48:21.800
they you know they there's a i saw an interview with uh one of the i talked to the the first
01:48:28.220
uh mainstream reporter ever assigned full-time to crypto this lady named laura shin she was a
01:48:33.800
she wrote a really good book about the founding of ethereum she has a really uh you know deep history
01:48:38.480
she's talked to all these people she talked to caroline ellison the the girlfriend yeah who's
01:48:43.320
running alameda she's she knows all these people has talked to them all and she said like they did
01:48:47.980
they spoke a good game i mean they talked a good game but you you go back and you looked at
01:48:51.780
some of their quotes now where they just look completely insane why would anyone entrust money
01:48:56.520
with these people she talked to her enron executives talked a good game yeah and they did they did talk
01:49:03.920
a good game in fact they actually i mean it's i think a different story in that enron was a was a
01:49:09.360
story of people who got over their skis but were very very intelligent smart people who were very
01:49:16.660
accomplished and did a lot of amazing things in their lives this guy's like not he's not in that
01:49:20.920
category he's just i mean it seems like for all the things you could say about enron and i read the
01:49:26.060
the book back in the day that the smartest guys in the room which the documentary were but yeah and
01:49:32.660
that was the accusation the documentary was called smartest guys in the room and the documentary gives
01:49:37.640
this like oh it was george bush it's like a totally different story than the book but you read the book
01:49:43.200
and you realize there definitely were people in enron who bent the rules and tried to take advantage of it
01:49:50.080
and tried to hide things there were also a lot of people who were just really good and and were
01:49:55.500
doing really good things and were really smart and really accomplished and you know maybe weren't
01:50:00.380
completely aware of all the things going on in the company at the time yeah with ftx i'm sure that
01:50:06.020
situation exists at some level but the people at the top seem to be very very involved in this
01:50:10.440
to the point of like there's inner there's an interview i had recently seen with some uh capital
01:50:15.640
advisor guy who talked to sam bankman freed at the beginning of the ftx thing when they were still
01:50:20.160
forming it and they were saying that like they would start this is when i think before ftx even
01:50:24.880
existed it was like the alameda days and they were talking about how at the end of the day they try to
01:50:31.100
make the book square up but sometimes it doesn't like they can't make it square up so they just go on
01:50:34.940
to the next day like there's a hundred thousand dollar gap which at that point was a lot of money for
01:50:39.340
them and yeah we couldn't make it work so we just went on to the next day and kind of just
01:50:42.900
couldn't we couldn't really figure out what happened because they were so that's kind of
01:50:47.120
important his brilliance quote-unquote was the fact that he didn't care about he'd show up to
01:50:51.700
meetings and shorts and messy hair there's real stories of major executives coming in i've never
01:50:57.300
seen him with well-kept hair no no that was his shtick yeah right yeah i'm too smart i don't have to
01:51:02.780
care i'm not part of your corporate world like these people would come in to invest billions of
01:51:07.640
dollars and he would fall asleep on a beanbag chair outside the office and they would let all
01:51:14.460
these executives in walk right past him asleep in the beanbag off a chair shuttle them into the
01:51:20.940
office make them sit there for 20 minutes while he was sleeping through the window they could see
01:51:24.320
him sleeping in a beanbag chair and then he'd like wake up and stumble in and just start and like this
01:51:29.440
was part of his magic he was so smart he didn't care about your conventional thinking pat oh man that's
01:51:36.420
not who he was no he was above all that he was so smart in one famously recorded um conference call
01:51:42.800
he made a presentation to uh to investors while playing video games at the same time like so the
01:51:50.400
entire time they knew he was playing video games he was like you know not looking at the scam he's
01:51:54.540
looking at the playing the games but like talking at the same time and made a presentation though this
01:51:58.540
this look he had played video games and still make a presentation we must give him a billion dollars
01:52:03.340
these idiots who you know honestly deserve it but the average customers don't they got screwed
01:52:09.400
and they were believed it was real largely because of the institutional investors who put money into
01:52:14.680
it the big super bowl commercials like i don't know like i have a belief like that like you see
01:52:19.180
someone they've invested all this money in a super bowl commercial you think there's something
01:52:22.240
there apparently there wasn't wow 888-727-BECK more patents do for glenn coming up
01:52:28.940
okay uh patent stew for glenn on the glenbeck program we were just talking about sbf uh sam bankman
01:52:40.400
freed uh because he was quite a genius so a wonder kid big democratic donor too we haven't even included
01:52:47.060
that donor yeah yeah yeah 40 mil he was gonna he was going to second only to george soros george soros
01:52:53.080
was one sam bankran freed two and he was promising a billion dollars if donald trump was the nominee to
01:52:59.300
fight against him he's going to donate a billion dollars to democratic causes thinking that's probably
01:53:03.440
not going to happen now yeah that's why they're that's why the left is really mad at him
01:53:06.940
they thought they had a billion dollars in their pocket but no now they don't have nothing
01:53:10.940
that'll have to be george soros now or you know uh what's his face warren buffett warren fat piece
01:53:19.220
of crap buffett maybe he'll come forward with a billion dollars if trump runs i don't know but
01:53:25.480
it's not going to be sam bankman freed because he doesn't have it i'm pretty sure pretty sure
01:53:31.160
they have not yet indicted him they haven't even charged him with anything yet have they
01:53:34.760
not yet but they i mean i he's in big trouble i mean yeah it takes a while to unwind this stuff
01:53:40.640
and understand what's going on right i mean so they don't charge them necessarily immediately
01:53:44.240
but i don't see how he avoids this he doesn't really think he's done anything like criminal
01:53:48.420
though does he yeah he's made some mistakes yeah he basically said you know i blew it i didn't
01:53:52.820
realize i was too focused on other things didn't realize yeah yeah you know how much risk we had
01:53:57.620
i mean he's trying to worm himself out of it but look this is i don't think it's going to happen
01:54:02.020
really yeah i think he's even with democrat help but even with democrat help i think he's still
01:54:05.620
going to get charged all right back here tomorrow see you then this is the glenn back program