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00:00:00.000 oh my gosh welcome i'm so glad that uh so glad that you're here today we got a great program

00:00:07.780 for you right stew um yes it's almost like you don't know if we have a good show or not sorry

00:00:15.160 i'm trying to put together this i know there's so much going on i know that's the problem we

00:00:19.620 get in here i mean i get in here at six you know 6 30 every single morning and there's so much to

00:00:26.340 go through uh that i just don't even know where to start we have maxine waters it's delicious

00:00:32.760 uh we have another story that came out yesterday that is i mean i think it's extra delicious

00:00:41.440 we also have this richard jewell thing an apology from a cnn reporter to richard jewell you know now

00:00:48.540 that he's dead um and i think what did richard jewell say in response you say thank you i mean

00:00:54.700 he didn't even he didn't even say thank you did he typical tip you know he probably was guilty

00:00:59.520 let's have a new new round of stories richard jewell did it dot com join me there subscribe

00:01:05.540 here's what richard jewell said

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00:01:43.020 uh no we would never have her on uh we do have a couple of stories that i think are of

00:01:51.360 great interest uh of course you know everybody who believes that the democrats are a little shady

00:01:59.660 are conspiracy theorists however they continue to say conspiracies on cnn and then just call them

00:02:09.660 opinions it's amazing to me we begin there in one minute this is the glenbeck program

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00:03:37.960 very excited tomorrow i'm going to a turning point usa uh their big uh event in florida uh and i'm i'm

00:03:52.500 giving the uh i think charlie kirk is giving the opening uh talk and then i'm giving the uh the

00:03:58.960 keynote talk right after that i mean you're excited imagine how excited they are wow yeah i'm not sure

00:04:05.520 that they are that excited is that what you were saying stew not at all not at all uh could we just

00:04:11.100 go through just a little bit of maxine waters because she brought up a very good point uh last night

00:04:17.480 really yeah on cnn we play the maxine waters on cnn from last night because i believe even though i

00:04:24.400 don't have the facts to prove it i believe that putin wanted to lift the sanctions he's always wanted

00:04:32.140 to lift these sanctions that were placed on him because of his um interfering with and uh incursion

00:04:38.600 into crimea and so i believe that they wanted to elect president trump and trump i believe agreed

00:04:47.320 i will always believe this that he agreed that if he got elected he would lift those sanctions he would

00:04:52.880 like to do it he's not been able to do it you know you notice there's no interruption at all from

00:04:59.780 the cnn anchor like wait you started this with you don't have any evidence of this

00:05:05.340 this is this is called a conspiracy theory this is a conspiracy theory and they are constantly

00:05:13.620 saying conspiracy theory from the left or from the right conspiracy theory from the right all of the

00:05:20.020 theories about russia everything we now know if you watched last night's tv show it's insane when i broke

00:05:27.420 down what the ig actually said and showed you the origins of the russia investigation it's all based

00:05:38.460 on a democratic conspiracy theory all of it there was no reason to to start this investigation it was

00:05:47.100 all based on people like maxine waters going i have no evidence of this but i know this is what happened

00:05:52.860 it's amazing they let that go and one of the things the standard operating procedure now with

00:05:58.020 cable news networks is to use the phrase without evidence when it comes to things that donald trump

00:06:03.380 says so let's say donald trump uh without evidence said that the media is opposed to him or whatever it

00:06:08.980 is and they just throw it out there like it's just this thing that he basically made up rather than

00:06:14.900 the fact that he didn't maybe go through and list all the evidence but don't we all kind of see that

00:06:19.380 the media is kind of against him right and so the only ones who can't see that the media and i think

00:06:25.120 they do see it by the way uh they just don't like to say it uh but you know that is a that's something

00:06:30.560 they point out all the time yeah against donald trump but maxine waters can come in and tell you

00:06:35.640 that she has no evidence absolutely no evidence uh of this whatsoever but i will always believe stew

00:06:45.380 is a mass murderer it was on this program yesterday and he still has not answered and

00:06:51.720 he it is not proven to be untrue yet i kind of wanted to i like the little dangerous mysterious

00:06:56.820 vibe so i'm gonna stick with it people like the serial killers they get all sorts of letters in

00:07:01.300 jail oh i know the women love them you'll get a series oh yeah famous oh i gotta get the netflix

00:07:06.520 true crime series i've got all sorts of stuff i can make appearances huge huge um i'm more you know

00:07:12.700 because i'm fascinated at the the explanations of these things because we've brought up a lot of a

00:07:17.420 lot of evidence about for example hunter biden and all the things that happened with him in ukraine

00:07:23.560 and we're told that that's a conspiracy theory when we bring up evidence but when we bring up the

00:07:29.460 evidence there is a very there are actually wire transfer records of money going to offshore accounts

00:07:38.040 for hunter biden there's there's actual records of that ah don't worry about it yeah that this story

00:07:45.100 from the new yorker which made some news yesterday um largely because of one quote from rudy giuliani

00:07:50.960 who said when he wanted to get these investigations of burisma going in ukraine the former ambassador

00:07:58.600 yovanovich uh was in the way and and the quote was something like uh we needed to get her out of the

00:08:04.020 way or we couldn't get these investigations done so that has been spun in the media as if

00:08:08.460 judy giuliani was saying well she was a truth teller and we wanted to lie and so she was in the

00:08:14.800 way so we had to remove her i love that and it's like that's not what he was saying he was saying

00:08:19.020 she was blocking she was blocking the travel uh visas for for the people that giuliani was trying

00:08:25.420 to interview and she was blocking them and we have evidence that she was blocking it's admitted

00:08:29.960 she's they admitted i mean you know she says well you know well we didn't think that they were they

00:08:34.060 should be here they were you know involved in what we thought was corruption and they should we

00:08:37.520 shouldn't invite them to the united states i mean you know okay but uh that was giuliani's point and

00:08:43.960 she perjured herself because she said they never did that they never blocked anybody from coming in

00:08:50.100 and it says here at least in the new yorker article now they seem to be admitting it um which is no

00:08:54.660 surprise but listen there's two pieces of explanation for these controversies from them

00:09:01.340 which i found to be fascinating one of which and i've watched your specials i've never heard before

00:09:06.960 i have uncovered new information new information that you didn't have in your specials i don't know

00:09:12.220 if this is worth now do you have evidence or did you get this from maxine water no it's not it's

00:09:16.740 better evidence than that it's coming direct from the source okay okay so first of all you have to

00:09:20.980 understand that this is their explanation for the issues that went around with hunter biden why

00:09:26.720 why was this even allowed by joe biden now this part you may have heard before but i found it

00:09:31.820 fascinating to hear it crystallized in this way a hunter who has long struggled with severe drug and

00:09:37.080 alcohol problems had almost no expertise in the region or in energy and many u.s and ukrainian officials

00:09:43.840 suspected that the co-founder of burisma had put hunter on the board in the hope of protecting himself

00:09:49.920 from prosecution again this is their defense this is their theory they're way out on a limb here

00:09:58.200 some white house and state department officials disapproved of hunter's role at burisma no no

00:10:03.660 no they never said anything about it nobody ever brought anything up and even there was not even a

00:10:09.560 hint of impropriety right i know it's so weird they were concerned about the appearance of a conflict

00:10:14.200 of interest huh the appearance the appearance um but which is a violation the only violation really

00:10:20.760 is the appearance right the government ethics code specifically says you cannot allow yourself to be

00:10:27.080 entered into a situation in which the appearance of corruption is possible when especially when

00:10:32.000 dealing with things uh overseas um but they mostly avoided uh avoided discussing the matter with joe biden

00:10:37.440 the vice president had a now think about this this is a guy who wants to run the free world

00:10:42.000 joe biden yeah the vice president had an unwritten don't ask don't tell policy when it came to his

00:10:48.500 family members business decisions now that is not that is completely unacceptable from a president of

00:10:56.340 the united states we i might have some problems to say it's pretty unacceptable honestly from any father

00:11:02.320 right in the united states right you know michael i'm just saying you and fredo go out do whatever

00:11:11.380 you want no ask no tell right all right i'm not gonna ask you anything about it that's what mob

00:11:18.120 families do right that's not what normal families do normal families sit down and go wait a minute

00:11:23.920 wait a minute you're doing what no don't don't don't do that remember biden's supposed to be the guy

00:11:29.840 rooting out corruption all over the world right but he won't even ask let alone you know if he gets

00:11:35.720 asked and gets lied to and maybe he was manipulated it was a mistake he's specifically not asking because

00:11:41.340 he doesn't want to know right like if your kid comes home uh and uh they're you know they're they've

00:11:46.080 been gone for three days they come home and they got white powder all over their face don't ask

00:11:50.580 you might want to wash your face uh i don't know what's going on especially when you are the vice

00:11:56.820 president of the united states and your son is a drug addict yeah because i'm not saying this in a

00:12:02.360 disparaging way i'm just stating the truth he is an out of control drug addict who is going to

00:12:10.940 destroy himself and the whole family you don't ask him about his business look we all have we all

00:12:18.380 have our issues hunter seems to have more of them yes most yes and it's certainly with his history

00:12:25.120 and his uh problems with addiction is completely incapable of drawing these lines successfully

00:12:32.620 that is not something that hunter biden is able to do clearly the man you know look at what just

00:12:38.440 happened in arkansas where he is his dad is in the middle of a presidential campaign and now has a new

00:12:45.560 grandchild from a stripper who who was impregnated while he was dating the widow of his other son

00:12:54.240 his other brother yeah his brother of joe biden's other son yeah this is not someone who's capable

00:13:00.040 of making these decisions in a reliable way to implement a don't ask don't tell policy for him

00:13:05.340 is completely irresponsible not by hunter biden because we know that's irresponsible but by joe

00:13:11.660 biden yeah i mean their defense is he's completely irresponsible if you can have any sympathy you can

00:13:17.460 have sympathy in some ways for hunter he's got a massive problem and he's massive problem you know and

00:13:23.740 he doesn't seem to be successfully dealing with it right uh and a lot of people can't successfully

00:13:28.500 deal with it you know so you get into this this world it's a i'm sure it's impossible with the

00:13:33.360 inertia of drugs and such to get out of it and and you feel bad for him however when you're the

00:13:40.500 president you're going to be the president united states you're the vice president united states

00:13:43.400 and your defense as to why you didn't see this coming was you didn't ask about it

00:13:48.580 because you thought because because no one wanted to have a situation in which he had to have the

00:13:54.260 truth he actually physically avoided intentionally the truth do you know why it's because it's not his

00:14:01.120 money i i listen hear me out imagine that it's joe biden industries instead of the united states of

00:14:07.380 america okay and he's the border on the board of directors of joe biden industries he's very high up

00:14:13.800 it's got his name on it sure and he's responsible and joe biden industries goes out of business

00:14:19.680 if they find out that there's any monkey business going on so he appoints his son to be let's say the

00:14:28.400 chief business development guy and he's just making deals but some of the deals he makes for him and

00:14:35.620 other deals he makes for the company do you think the ceo the chairman of the board or joe biden

00:14:44.140 wouldn't say to his company what to do his son wait a minute wait a minute what is that deal over

00:14:49.300 there oh that's mine dad yeah but that deal looks like you're playing it against the company

00:14:55.380 so i gotta know what that deal is because son we're all out of business yeah you're right he would

00:15:02.440 do that if it was his money if they were running a bakery yes he would ask every question but it's

00:15:07.700 not his money it's not it's our money it's our money and our reputation so there's nothing for

00:15:14.780 him to lose he doesn't lose anything and he is so arrogant because look at what they're getting away

00:15:21.080 with they have the cover of the press they are on the right side of history so they think they can get

00:15:28.100 away with anything i mean how hillary clinton can go travel the country right now and say oh you know

00:15:35.460 what in this country no one is above the law oh my gosh i think i'm gonna hemorrhage from my eyes i

00:15:44.020 could bleed to death in half a minute just from the blood shooting out of my eyes after hearing that

00:15:48.760 now this is just their explanation for this however it's not the new breaking information oh it's not no

00:15:55.240 this is not why hunter took the role okay there's more oh there's a big one okay all right hang on

00:16:01.460 just a second let's catch our breath for one minute and then come right back to why hunter took the job

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00:18:11.580 seconds station id i can't wait you wouldn't even tell me off the air no stew has been waiting for

00:18:24.020 this for for about an hour oh yeah the whole morning yeah he's been waiting he's been like i won't tell

00:18:30.200 you i gotta wait until we're on the air because you're gonna love this well you've been breaking

00:18:33.480 so much news on this ukraine thing i'm glad to have something to break to you okay all right okay

00:18:38.380 now hunter biden hunter biden he's about to he gets this offer from burisma this very shady

00:18:46.080 gas company yes uh over in ukraine and he has no experience with gas no experience with the language

00:18:52.220 doesn't know the country language right his his dad happens to be vice president of the united states

00:18:56.520 and doing gas uh investigations yeah and and granting money to gas companies now that if

00:19:03.820 you're hunter biden uh-huh kendall roy from succession you might have a moment a moment yeah

00:19:10.380 of hesitation there right because you're thinking why why do they want me to do this job and they're

00:19:15.960 gonna pay me all this money this seems a little suspicious it seems a little out of the blue exactly

00:19:22.000 but hey dad when i was all coked up last night right i was thinking i could do that i could do

00:19:27.140 that i could do that i'm a gas i i could learn the language i i mean who who would pass on me right

00:19:32.800 right so maybe you get but you maybe have a moment of suspicion right and you're worried maybe about

00:19:38.380 your dad's uh political future and his reputation right sure now he goes through a little of this uh

00:19:45.020 hesitation as he's making this decision do i take this job with burisma and you know he gets the back

00:19:51.060 and forth about oh we're serious about transparency and all the stuff you'd expect to get from a new

00:19:55.920 employer but he's still skeptical because he's he i mean you'd be skeptical of the situation sure

00:20:00.940 but then it happens you start doing your own research right okay you start looking into this

00:20:07.160 yeah yeah and this is a quote from the new yorker article all right hunter felt reassured on a more

00:20:14.120 personal level after doing some of his own research he read that the co-founder of burisma

00:20:19.820 had championed efforts to ensure that bears held in captivity in ukraine were treated more humanely

00:20:30.260 opposing a long-standing practice of housing bears in open pits

00:20:36.580 they are trying to make the case that hunter biden took the job at burisma because he was worried about

00:20:46.680 bears in captivity that they were being held in open pits and this guy at burisma was like

00:20:52.900 no more bears and pits come on board after

00:20:57.280 you know i thought i might be in bed with a bad guy but then i found out he's against bears and pits

00:21:05.720 i'm against bears and pits we came together it was on my match.com profile no bears and pits

00:21:13.120 it was the one thing i had been praying and praying and praying how do i know what's true

00:21:20.300 how do i know who i can trust no bears in pits and then i thought to myself that doesn't make any sense

00:21:28.260 but when i started doing my research i saw he doesn't want bears in pits it was meant to be

00:21:34.700 it certainly wasn't the eighty thousand dollars a month it was we didn't want bears to be left in

00:21:41.500 pits we wanted them roaming free and probably murdering ukrainians all over the country so let

00:21:45.940 me ask you this what the hell does it have to do with him i don't know i don't know i don't speak

00:21:51.240 the language i'm not qualified for the job this just might be a scam no they love me i mean the way

00:21:58.940 it's presented is legitimately like well you know what it sounded bad but then he seemed nice because of

00:22:03.400 the bear thing so i took the job he said what do you vladimir putin pets leopards

00:22:10.520 and i got i mean i've never been to ukraine but like i'm not gonna walk by there's gonna be big

00:22:18.740 pits of bears everywhere like what i tell you this is the word ukraine after what the democrats have

00:22:25.580 done to them will have a tourist uh rating of zero right no one will want to go it's just

00:22:32.920 nuclear waste corruption and bears and pits oh man i mean uh you you thought they got far down the

00:22:42.400 list of bizarre explanations and then they're like oh bears and pits we always have that one

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00:24:17.220 hello and welcome to the glennbeck program we're so glad that you're here i can't believe

00:24:46.360 christmas is christmas next week it's like yes eight days away we're eight days away that is

00:24:52.080 craziness crazy this year has flown by oh man welcome to the uh program mr pat gray from pat

00:24:58.060 gray unleashed you can get it wherever you get your podcasts and uh listen to his program very funny

00:25:03.660 very informative very pat um we have uh we have some new information stew has some breaking news

00:25:11.760 this came from i want to say uh vanity vanity fair new yorker okay you know what's the difference

00:25:18.420 uh the new yorker has just released information now if if if stew and i were to ask you pat

00:25:25.300 why did hunter biden take the job with burisma because he was skeptical apparently to the new yorker

00:25:32.760 he was uh skeptical that this job was on the up and up so what convinced him take the job

00:25:41.180 uh money no 150 000 a month no no that had nothing to do come on that's stupid right what convinced

00:25:49.420 him answer what convinced him i uh he wanted to help the ukraine oh well well now he's got it close

00:25:58.560 now listen to this listen to this hunter felt reassured on a more personal level after doing

00:26:03.760 some of his own research he read that the co-founder of burisma had championed efforts to ensure that

00:26:10.000 bears held in captivity in ukraine were treated more humanely opposing a long-standing practice

00:26:17.980 of housing bears in open pits so he did some research and he's online and he's like oh the guy

00:26:28.380 doesn't want bears in pits oh i don't want bears in pits he doesn't want bears in pits i think i'll

00:26:34.800 work there yeah that's right wow nothing to do with the money no so uh just the producers in the

00:26:41.580 other room i want you to reach out sarah i want you to reach out and i'm serious to hunter biden uh i

00:26:47.580 know he's been skeptical of coming on the program he hasn't wanted to do any interviews but just tell

00:26:53.320 him that yes he's skeptical but glenn beck doesn't want bears in pits either so he's totally safe to

00:27:03.180 come on we should he should be on tomorrow he should be on tomorrow oh i think so yeah well look at all

00:27:08.940 you have in common with him yeah we have bears in pits we neither of us want bears do you know

00:27:13.320 anyone who's like yeah i'd like a bear in a pit apparently everyone else in ukraine wants bears

00:27:19.120 in pits but well i mean now see we're not with that culture i was going to say eskimos they might

00:27:24.260 want bears in pits yeah when you're about to get ripped open yeah by a bear you want the bear in a

00:27:29.140 pit but other than that you don't want bears in pits you know in theory none of us want bears in

00:27:33.900 pits in theory in theory yeah in theory but if only we could live in a world like that oh you don't

00:27:41.140 have bears in pits we do live in a world like that we do yeah we do there's not bears in pits yeah

00:27:47.860 and i don't know how many times i have tossed and turned weird tossed and turned and thought to

00:27:53.380 myself man i could have such a great job in the ukraine if it wasn't for the bears in pits the

00:27:59.840 fact that they keep bears in pits who even knows that remember when we wanted to go to kiev in 1992

00:28:08.200 and do that morning show yeah we couldn't no because the guy who ran the radio station he wanted bears in

00:28:15.780 pits he was like one of the leaders he was like i run the club more bears in pits would you work

00:28:24.920 for someone who is neutral on bears no i don't think so no i only want people who oppose it yeah

00:28:29.840 not pro bears in pits or neutral you must be anti-bears in pits if i walk into somebody's office today

00:28:36.380 and they don't look up at me and just go geez glenn have you heard about the

00:28:41.020 the travesty that's going on the bears in pits problem i don't even want to be in their office

00:28:47.480 today i picture this being like they all got together at some vacation house and they all said

00:28:52.800 okay joe joe's like i'm running for president here and we know this this burisma stuff's going to come

00:28:57.440 up we need every single excuse possible that we might have uh to get through this because it's going

00:29:03.900 to be a firestorm so every the whole family all the advisors put in slips of paper post-it notes with

00:29:08.780 all their excuses they've now gone through the entire giant bag of excuses and the last one at

00:29:14.000 the very bottom was i mean the guy opposed bears in pits that's why i'm laughing about a year or two

00:29:19.400 ago they were all laughing go we'll never get to the bears in pits thing i mean we've only got that one

00:29:25.380 and hunter was like no i i i i i really mean it bears in pits is bad i don't like i i really think

00:29:37.380 i love this man i i love him so much because there's not a single he didn't want a single bear in a pit

00:29:45.600 even the bad bears even the bears it was like he's in fact he he doesn't even like depress bears

00:29:52.060 bears in the pits like that like i'm down into the dumps like a pit of despair i'm in a pit of

00:29:57.240 despair i did prozac for bears and and ladders forever for every bear they're at the point like

00:30:05.440 when you're you're leaving you know the mcdonald's drive-thru and you're just digging through for that

00:30:08.980 last fry that fell out and they just pull it up and it just says bears and pits and they're like

00:30:13.360 all right let's go with it the new yorker's here what else are you gonna say it's but you know what

00:30:17.860 but if you're looking at that as a mcdonald's french fry when you find that last one it is

00:30:24.420 like gold you're like oh oh the last french fry so they may in in the biden family be going oh

00:30:32.680 the bear in pits thing we completely forgot about it we didn't have to want to we didn't want to play

00:30:37.560 this card but here we are it's bears and pits time i mean can you believe this is what they're trying

00:30:45.380 oh my gosh yes this whole thing is what they get away with in pits they get away with it because they

00:30:51.460 have the media to cover for them yes because the media can you imagine can you imagine if i said

00:30:57.500 look the reason why i thought that barack obama was a racist is because he's never spoken out about

00:31:07.000 bears and pits no i don't think they would have i don't think they would have i could have said that

00:31:14.040 about anything about bears and pits they would never i could be uh i i could be a bearologist and

00:31:23.380 they would still say that's a ridiculous yes ridiculous excuse i didn't realize it was such a

00:31:29.720 sign of virtue though i i think we should make t-shirts i oppose bears and pits and see i because i want

00:31:35.040 t-shirts i'm for bears but i want a t-shirt with just a pit in it and a sad little bear in the bottom

00:31:41.260 of it looking up it's like the international sign we will not hire hunter biden yeah it's just you put

00:31:49.400 a sticker on your door don't apply hunter biden need not apply yeah we we support bears and pits

00:31:54.580 can we get a t-shirt i want to teach write this down i want a t-shirt with like a bear that looks

00:32:00.440 kind of like baby yoda with the big eyes down at the bottom of a pit hunter biden need not apply

00:32:06.520 speaking of baby yoda yeah are you still loving the mandalorian you still like it

00:32:15.680 okay are you watching it are you watching it yes okay so uh it's just it's my amazing tolerance for

00:32:22.200 star wars it is it is after i've said this before after 1983 they gave me eight crappy movies i hated

00:32:28.000 them all and and a series now that's just kind of so so and i'm still eagerly anticipating every

00:32:34.680 episode so i like the fact that i like the fact that i'm watching it basically for baby yoda

00:32:40.440 i like the fact that baby yoda continues to try to make things levitate i love that yes um i think

00:32:47.900 he may or may not be able to they're right i guess so great it's so great i love that i keep

00:32:52.880 waiting for him to say judge me by my size to you it never does yeah while he is saying

00:32:58.740 um so i'm really watching it at this point for baby yoda uh however the last episode last week i

00:33:10.420 thought was good and i say i have to say it like that it's it was good yes the last two

00:33:17.620 episodes before that i'm kind of like okay all right i need something you know what what are we

00:33:23.480 doing first of all take the tracker out of baby yoda i don't care what you have to do you gotta have

00:33:28.680 some scan that can show you can make baby yoda stop going beep beep beep beep beep beep i'm stop

00:33:34.360 take the tracker out of him um and uh because they know that it's in there and if it's in his blanket

00:33:41.260 get him a new blanket whatever it is stop with the tracker thing and i also need to see like

00:33:47.120 an advance of the storyline right now it's just yeah it's like one of those old shows like i don't

00:33:53.040 even know i i don't even know it's like gun smoke or something no because they weren't really connected

00:33:58.820 they weren't really connected yeah they weren't really connected they a new guy would ride into

00:34:03.140 town they'd be like oh there's gonna be trouble and it was never connected to the next episode and

00:34:09.640 that's kind of all pretty standalone and i hate it like uh like law and order is like that

00:34:14.980 right right you have the same main characters but like there's just a new trial that those ones seem

00:34:20.860 to have progression of the characters you're watching them for the characters and their

00:34:26.480 interaction with people he has no interaction with the same people and he's in a mask so you can't like

00:34:32.160 oh look at his eyes he's kind of shifty there right there's nothing and he continues to go to bars

00:34:38.640 and sit down but he can't drink because he can never open his mask yeah he can't eat or drink or

00:34:45.460 go to the bathroom as far as i could tell he can't take off any of his uniform these are really high

00:34:50.400 reviews i've not started watching it yet i kind of plan to but i don't know maybe i don't yeah well

00:34:55.320 we're not we're we're kind of on the fence yeah that's where i am i'm kind of on the fence i'm like

00:34:59.920 the everyone star wars so it keeps pulling me along just like this friday thing i'm looking forward to

00:35:05.500 going to the new movie even though i haven't liked the last eight i mean that's how much goodwill they

00:35:11.160 built up with the first three i i'll do anything for it i guess uh in perpetuity for star wars just

00:35:17.220 because of the first three it's so strange it's kind of ridiculous if they continue to do bad

00:35:22.600 uh i mean look let's be honest disney hit a grand slam with baby yoda yeah they can only milk baby

00:35:33.340 yoda for so long right you know what i mean yeah uh i know he's 50 so it's going to be a long time

00:35:40.120 before he grows out of being cute before he gets to that that urkel that is like okay you really have

00:35:45.880 to stop he's 50 what where'd you get that he's 50 all throughout it for the first two episodes they

00:35:51.980 were they said he was 50 he's 50 years old he's i missed the fact that he was 50 yeah he's i had no

00:35:58.280 idea yeah he's 50 he's 50 yeah well remember he's like what 900 years old yes yeah okay so he's he's

00:36:07.120 crazy he's 50 and he's still which the whole point is he's supposed to be like i'm super smart and

00:36:14.160 everything it took him 50 years to speak i mean that's not i know that's pretty processing a lot

00:36:19.120 but he seems to know who the good guys and bad guys are yeah he's got a sixth sense he's he's he's

00:36:28.460 got this he's got this baby yoda radar thing did you see one of my favorites is when he's trying to

00:36:34.460 heal the mandalorian and the mandalorian is just like like angry with him did you see that yeah where

00:36:41.100 he's like sitting by the fire and he's got a scratch on his arm or you know cut on his arm

00:36:44.980 and baby yoda somehow or another getting out of that floating crib like and you don't see it and

00:36:51.540 he's standing right at the feet of the mandalorian with his finger like i'm gonna heal you and the

00:36:57.800 mandalorian looks down i'm like oh geez puts him back in the crib continues to put a bandage on his

00:37:03.640 wound all of a sudden yoda's at the feet again man stay in the crib

00:37:10.820 what about baby yoda in a pit is that okay with hunter biden would be would definitely go work for

00:37:23.840 that company yeah george lucas in a pit i dig the pit because then you get no more you have no more

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00:38:48.960 this is the glenbeck program

00:38:53.600 are you going to star wars this weekend i am going uh thursday night

00:39:23.000 are you really yes i haven't gotten my tickets yet i bought them a long time ago for some reason

00:39:27.300 i bought them like the day they came out so i'm very excited about it yeah and again i think you

00:39:31.460 know i don't quite agree with pat's analysis of the series like i don't think they've all been bad

00:39:36.440 since the first couple uh i think there's been some good ones there's been some good ones but it is

00:39:40.940 everybody's doing a power ranking i'll do we should do our power ranking at some point yeah we

00:39:44.700 have time to do it now uh yeah we've got a couple minutes uh two minutes so if you look at all of

00:39:49.860 them and you include the old ones and the new ones and the spinoffs and the spinoffs there's

00:39:55.480 10 movies number one number one tell me where you disagree number one new hope i go number one empire

00:40:00.380 strikes back number two i might you know what i might switch that yeah because i was number two

00:40:07.260 was empire strikes back and i had new hope number two most people are going to be there yeah i think

00:40:11.680 i think i'm with you on that one uh number three return of the jedi i do i do disagree with this

00:40:17.860 one with most people okay uh where do you put return of the jedi i put it uh what do you have

00:40:26.720 is number three force awakens which i know a lot of people don't like but i like that one no i have

00:40:31.200 that as number four fourth awakens then number five rogue one i had that four so we're not far off

00:40:36.220 yeah number six is solo wait wait aren't you on number five oh number five is rogue one rogue one

00:40:41.520 okay okay number six is solo i had that at eight uh number seven is the last jedi see i had that

00:40:49.420 one like i was going back and forth between last and second to last i did not like that no no no no

00:40:53.740 i'm at seven number eight is attack of the clones number nine that because of jar jar binks is still

00:40:59.580 in it number nine is revenge of the sith and number 10 is phantom menace i mean those those first

00:41:05.700 three have to be they have to be last yeah i probably i guess i probably put phantom menace

00:41:12.220 last though i last jedi i when i watch it i watched it recently again and it was like no i'm like this

00:41:19.140 isn't that bad except for a couple of really bad moments uh but i just it just feels like not even a

00:41:24.840 star wars movie but you just have to remember that's number seven it's just barely beating out

00:41:30.340 attack of the clones revenge of the sith and phantom menace i mean there comes a point where

00:41:36.260 it's like yeah it's all kind of trash after this yeah yeah they're about 50 50 i think on like

00:41:41.380 movies i actually liked which is not a great ratio for like the biggest franchise of all time no

00:41:46.840 and one you're so loyal to that it opens up and you're like of course i have opening day tickets

00:41:52.280 you're listening to glenn beck

00:41:56.000 thank you so much all right here we go empire one new hope two force awakens three which is

00:42:12.120 controversial rogue one four attack of the clones five return of the jedi six that's going to piss

00:42:17.820 people off revenge of the sith seven solo eight phantom menace nine last jedi 10 the more i talk about

00:42:24.080 last jedi the worse it gets in my head when i was watching it wasn't as the last jedi number 10

00:42:30.540 yeah i think it's 10 over metachlorian i'm giving fans jar jar binks and trade talk i think if i

00:42:38.280 watched him again i might switch those two i went back and forth but you know why i because i think

00:42:42.060 phantom menace is a bad star wars movie last jedi is not a star wars movie

00:42:46.420 like it's just like it's not part of it it doesn't feel like it it doesn't have the the

00:42:53.100 characters are all doing things they never did before like luke is all of a sudden a completely

00:42:57.240 different person doing all different things they've got like a telephone service set up like long

00:43:01.700 distance like uh dial down the middle 10 10 220 and then they're just like okay they're tight i mean

00:43:08.100 let me ask you this let me ask you this is this the one because you may you may have me at hello here

00:43:13.580 is this the one where she's sucked out of the window and then comes back to life

00:43:17.340 yes yes that's horrific you may you may be right

00:43:22.620 the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenbeck program can 20 u.s senators

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00:43:51.700 remove a president a number of them openly or privately dislike is a trap being set for trump in the

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00:45:24.460 douglas mckinnon uh rode on the hill this weekend is a potential trap being set by

00:45:38.920 seemingly loyal republican senators i don't even know what loyal republican senators mean anymore

00:45:47.780 uh douglas mckinnon joins us now hello doug how are you glenn thanks for having me back on i really

00:45:53.820 appreciate it yeah no not a problem i'm i'm fascinated by this tell me the theory here

00:45:59.000 well the theory is i i think that as we had talked about in the past i i had to hire on him to work for

00:46:05.920 president reagan in the white house as well as uh bush one and i think this white house

00:46:11.200 as good as they are and i'm a supporter of the president i think trump is the best president since

00:46:16.740 president reagan that said i do believe the president and the west wing

00:46:22.000 are putting way too much faith in the senate and it's one of these things where i talked to two

00:46:27.520 one senior stopper and a former senior stopper up on the hill who told me that there were a number

00:46:34.480 of meetings going on behind closed doors between a number of republican senators you know and the fear

00:46:41.280 is that with the weight of history with and as you and i understand very very well even most quoting as

00:46:49.860 you just said you know what's a loyal republican senator right because the vast majority of these

00:46:54.300 republican senators either privately or publicly can't stand president trump for a lot of reasons the

00:47:00.420 main reason being lynn they can't control him they've never been able to control him right they

00:47:05.800 can't predict what he's going to do and so because of that does it make more sense for them to have

00:47:12.200 someone who's part of the club become president and and someone who's part of the club who's a good

00:47:17.180 guy by the way but his vice president mike pence but mike pence is part of the club and again how easy

00:47:23.380 would it be for just you only need 20 of the 53 republican senators to say wait a minute i think

00:47:29.760 here's our historic opportunity to remove a president none of us like and again the conventional wisdom

00:47:35.760 is the president's going to get acquitted in the senate trial it's going to be a slam dunk but my

00:47:42.020 whole point is and the point of these two stoppers that i was speaking with was let's not assume that

00:47:47.360 and as i said in the piece too one of president reagan's favorite lines was okay let's trust but verify

00:47:52.860 here so how do you verify because i i mean i go back and forth douglas on this i i i look at uh what

00:48:01.080 really happened and what really went on with the democrats in ukraine and this whole thing with the

00:48:08.320 press it must be exposed with that being said i don't i'm not sure it will be exposed because i think

00:48:16.540 people like uh uh possibly lindsey graham uh uh you know uh what's his name turtle face uh in the in

00:48:26.160 the uh senate yeah mcconnell thank you um i i think these guys are are wouldn't they didn't want things

00:48:36.360 exposed either they want to continue to play in the club and they probably are dirty along the same lines

00:48:43.680 is what the republic what the democrats have have uh look like they've been up to and donald trump

00:48:50.120 is a hand grenade and he went off and he exposed a lot of this dirt and i'm not sure that uh there are

00:49:00.060 people on both sides that want this to stop well i i agree with you and in that sense to what i always

00:49:07.980 tell people that are fresh to the united states that don't understand the system i said amazingly if you

00:49:13.140 watch the movie mr smith goes to washington which was made 80 years ago and you look at the taylor

00:49:18.900 machine and what's going on as he's controlling various members of the senate basically nothing

00:49:23.600 has changed since the time that movie aired 80 years ago and that's one of the things where trump

00:49:28.620 is coming in and he is the disruptor what nikki haley governor haley said you know one of the reasons

00:49:33.500 so many people dislike him yes is he is a disruptor that can't be controlled and so to your point it's

00:49:39.280 one of these things where who can you in fact trust and and and my point and the point of these stoppers

00:49:45.040 is well don't trust anybody because ultimately there's a historic opportunity here for 20 republican

00:49:52.700 senators to change history to invalidate the votes of 63 million americans who voted for president trump

00:50:00.200 and to join with basically glenn the deep state and and and create this unofficial coup and remove a

00:50:08.000 legitimately and constitutionally elected president of the united states it really is chilling okay so

00:50:12.900 why do you think that this has a chance of happening because when when they were talking about articles of

00:50:19.720 impeachment look at the the numbers with the people the people are not for it that you know the

00:50:26.420 democrats are even having defectors when they started this they said you know we think we

00:50:30.900 could probably get you know 10 or 20 republicans on board they they couldn't even get all democrats

00:50:36.660 on board for this well i mean and that's the thing and that's the conventional wisdom right and again

00:50:42.280 the conventional wisdom says 99.9 percent chance you know the senate's going to quit everyone's going to

00:50:48.080 be happy and i do i i do suspect that may be the case but the whole point here is i think the trump

00:50:54.200 white house is going into this with eyes sort of if not fully closed somewhat squinted in terms of

00:51:00.760 what's going on in the senate what conversations are taking place you know who can we double check

00:51:05.680 with and and and what can we be doing that we're not doing right now to protect ourselves and to

00:51:10.900 protect this president and i'm a little bit surprised that there's at least no conversation

00:51:15.260 emanating from the west wing of the white house that publicly puts these guys on notice you know i think

00:51:22.320 that would be a smart strategy so douglas what are the things you're watching for as a political

00:51:27.360 consultant what are the things that you're watching to see if this tide is going in or out

00:51:32.160 well i think one of the one of the things that people should be paying attention to or what

00:51:37.280 conversations are taking place are any conversations you know and this is where you have to have

00:51:42.260 sort of insiders that are leaking some of this information uh and saying are there conversations

00:51:47.360 taking place between certain senators in the west wing are there certain are there certain

00:51:51.840 conversations taking place between certain staff members and the vice president's office i mean

00:51:57.140 there's a lot of different things that are happening beneath the scenes and it's one of these things where

00:52:02.100 this is such a unique opportunity and as we know you know before you know president clinton was never

00:52:08.260 going to get impeached president nixon resigned before he could go through this but it's a totally

00:52:12.720 different dynamic glenn with donald trump because he is a one-man band washington dc has never seen

00:52:19.700 anyone like him in its history he basically got elected by himself and so for all those reasons and

00:52:27.120 to your point about this club being even whether it's lindsey graham or mitch mcconnell or others

00:52:31.680 he is a disruptor that they would if if it was a perfect world as we both know glenn and if they could

00:52:38.460 just flip a switch and make him disappear they would they would do it tomorrow yeah they would

00:52:42.880 um all right um let me switch subjects with you because i know you have a new book and i didn't

00:52:48.800 even you know you're not on to talk about it but i wanted to talk about it um you have a new book out

00:52:54.500 uh the north pole project in search of the true meaning of christmas can you tell me about it

00:52:58.840 sure yeah it's just people tend to be walking away from christmas left and right and people tend to be

00:53:04.440 forgetting about just the christmas spirit and what does it mean and so the story is basically

00:53:09.660 about a multi-billionaire who lost his way in life he ended up getting you know the trophy wipes and

00:53:15.640 all these things and he's got 54 billion dollars and he and all of a sudden he's 50 years old and

00:53:20.480 he's totally lost in life and he's sitting in his 35 room mansion by himself one day contemplating

00:53:27.160 doing the worst when he gets a call from his minister brother in texas who says what is wrong with

00:53:32.680 you christian you have to try to save yourself and this you and this 54 this this 50 year old

00:53:37.560 billionaire when he was a child with his brother living on an army base he used to collect money

00:53:42.500 to give presents to the other poor children on the army base and his minister brother says

00:53:47.020 christian become that person again become santa claus all over again and so this billionaire

00:53:53.060 literally decides to recreate the north pole and santa's workshop on the north pole and and not only

00:54:00.300 does he do that glenn but he recruits people from all over the world as his quote unquote elves

00:54:05.420 who they themselves are going through the some of the worst that life has to offer and they are

00:54:11.220 sort of healed by joining this project and together these people change the lives for the

00:54:17.680 better of over 500 000 orphans around the world so is this is is this a story that can be read with

00:54:24.520 your kids but it's kind of like harry potter can be read by an adult and enjoyed but also a little

00:54:30.220 older kids too 100 it's one of these things where people we're getting emails now from people that

00:54:36.220 are exactly doing that every night they're reading one chapter with their families out loud because it's

00:54:42.500 it really is sort of reinvigorating the christmas spirit in all of them and that's what makes me the

00:54:47.240 proudest and for me i didn't take a dime for this book by the way glenn and everything goes to charity

00:54:51.780 that's great douglas mckinnon thank you so much i appreciate the name of the book is the north pole

00:54:55.840 project uh and his uh article which i think is is um possibly right on the mark is a trap being set

00:55:03.900 for trump in the senate trial is available at the hill thanks so much douglas mckinnon uh thank you

00:55:09.640 you bet uh i will tell you that um uh we are we're getting to a point to where kids don't read books

00:55:20.700 anymore uh and even my son has slowed down on books and my son was a faster reader than i am i mean he

00:55:27.640 could finish a novel in day and a half uh he he would race through books uh and just loves to read

00:55:36.580 and has you know now that he's in school has slowed down on his reading and i hate it i hate it

00:55:44.640 um i didn't like to read when i was a kid um but you have to find the right book and you know i didn't

00:55:52.100 grow up in a family that was reading to us or anything else and so i read the first book i ever

00:55:57.700 read when i was what 18 and living on my own was sherlock holmes and i read it just for fun and it was

00:56:07.920 the first book that i really read for fun and i probably read it three times because i thought no book

00:56:12.320 could be this good and then i uh started just reading all kinds of other things and loved it

00:56:19.980 and reading is just tremendous if you find the right book and i i start to read a lot of books and

00:56:28.740 don't finish a lot of books because it's like okay it's not worth not worth pursuing any more than this

00:56:34.680 because i i like this but i don't love it and uh and i i just urge you to read to your kids and

00:56:43.800 um get some books for christmas um i told you yesterday about this freedom series that you

00:56:52.680 can get it at libraries of hope uh i think it's libraries of hope.com or what was the address let me

00:56:59.040 look it up it was uh no that's the old address anyway they're the freedom series and if you just

00:57:08.120 google libraries of hope and freedom series you'll be able to find the website that they're at

00:57:12.120 but they're great and they're the old stories of of america and our founding and our principles and

00:57:21.100 there's just a whole there's lists and lists of great books that are all of the um original stories

00:57:29.140 you'll find them at welleducatedheart.com welleducatedheart.com if you've never read any

00:57:36.080 of my stories you know what's weird stew is christmas sweater is catching on a second time but like in

00:57:43.100 europe i'm seeing yeah i'm seeing all these um posts from poland and uh i don't think the ukraine

00:57:54.360 um and hungary and all of these countries right behind that were right behind the iron curtain

00:58:00.420 um it's like taking off again in in those languages which is strange and odd they used to have a

00:58:08.180 collection of all the different languages it was printed in yeah remember that 20 different languages i

00:58:12.860 think it's bizarre yeah um but the christmas sweater if you've never read the christmas sweater

00:58:17.540 that is um based on my childhood and uh my experience uh someday i want to rewrite it because

00:58:25.820 i don't like the the ending i was it was the first novel i read in the world what every time you bring

00:58:31.920 this book up you have to talk about how you don't like the ending of your own book every single freaking

00:58:36.340 time you bring up the christmas sweater for the last 10 years don't like you talk about how you don't

00:58:40.240 like the ending to the book everybody else does i don't okay leave it at that uh and uh also there's

00:58:46.560 another uh book out of mine that is uh christmas called the snow angel i wrote that uh for my sisters

00:58:53.600 if you know somebody who uh struggles with her dad it would be a uh it might be a good christmas

00:59:01.360 present called the snow angel uh and my favorite christmas story that uh i've written is um

00:59:09.040 the uh what is it yeah the immortal nicholas what is it because i couldn't remember i i knew it was

00:59:16.980 the immortal but then they made me change the title immortal nicholas you don't like the title of that

00:59:20.840 book you don't be ending the other one yeah but i like the story of uh the immortal the immortal

00:59:24.800 nicholas is uh my attempt i wrote it for my children and it is my attempt to find a way to bring

00:59:32.360 christ back into christmas and to explain the origins of santa and so the main character is agios who

00:59:43.520 is living at the time of the birth of christ and how does this guy uh become the immortal nicholas

00:59:52.240 uh and it takes all of the traditions of christmas and explains all of them and makes

00:59:58.700 everything christ-centered uh and it's a it's my favorite story uh i worked on it worked on it worked

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01:00:12.320 uh until we got it just right and i i love it it's the immortal nicholas and it's great for your family

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01:01:52.220 are you uh nervous about uh the okay sign like everyone else is in the country

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01:02:32.760 not a white power symbol it is only it was used and created for this um as a joke by like 4chan the

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01:06:25.700 hello america welcome to the glennbeck program uh looks like mitch mcconnell says it's not the senate's

01:06:52.160 job to get to guilty uh the house wanted uh evidence and witnesses they should have found

01:06:59.000 them should have called them should have found the uh the evidence we're not calling witnesses

01:07:04.340 in the senate so there doesn't look like there's going to be a trial um it looks like it's just going

01:07:11.260 to be either uh an up or down vote to toss it out or acquit the president they should acquit the president

01:07:18.100 uh if that's their choice of not calling any witnesses they they've got to vote to do that

01:07:24.420 otherwise you know anything could happen and they could bring this back up again

01:07:29.840 so all these charges would go away if he was acquitted of it and you couldn't do it a second time

01:07:36.400 i mean it's incredible it does seem like it's what the white house prefers

01:07:41.220 uh at least you know well i guess we'll see if trump comes up with an angry tweet about how he can't

01:07:47.200 get his witnesses well maybe we'll know the opposite but uh all indications are from both

01:07:52.160 sides that they're working together on the plan here and maybe trump is just deciding look you know

01:07:57.600 we can go down this road but i'd rather get it over with and move on with my life and

01:08:01.200 and move into the election time and and not be focusing on impeachment which i certainly understand

01:08:07.860 i just it's frustrating because there's so much here to go into that the american people need to know

01:08:14.660 about and without i think the senate trial i don't think they ever will i mean you know you'll you'll

01:08:20.800 have some people who will know it from actually doing their own research but i don't think as far

01:08:24.960 as the you know large swath of the american public and voters are ever going to really know the truth

01:08:29.220 of this thing which is uh horrendous and puts us in a very difficult situation moving forward in my

01:08:37.160 opinion um but it's interesting the game that chuck schumer was playing with uh with uh mitch mcconnell

01:08:46.300 because the house hasn't even voted yet so they're going to vote tomorrow which probably will end up

01:08:53.100 being thursday or at least wednesday night um and uh they haven't voted so why was chuck schumer pushing

01:09:01.620 for certain people to be called and now mitch mcconnell folds to that and says we're not going

01:09:08.040 to call anybody well does that give the house an excuse not to pass the articles of impeachment

01:09:15.720 does it give an out to some democrats who will say you know they're not going to do anything in it

01:09:21.500 with it anyway mitch mcconnell just said they won't so what's the point

01:09:25.960 that's probably what their argument will be right i mean they're going to probably say

01:09:33.040 hey this is uh this is just the senate defending the president here's mitch mcconnell's quote he said

01:09:40.620 he was working with the president and they're just this is just a scam um it does bail them out i think

01:09:46.240 in some ways in that they don't have to actually go through this process but you know they should okay

01:09:53.540 so let me let me bring you let me bring you to this um there is um this could all change we should

01:09:58.940 point out too this is what they're reporting right now but you know who knows at this point let me let

01:10:04.680 me just see and i don't know if i can read um all of this because it's quite long but it's an apology

01:10:09.700 letter to richard jewel and it's from a member or former member of cnn and uh he writes dear richard

01:10:20.160 i owe you an apology writing an apology is not something journalists are used to doing

01:10:24.720 it took me years just to open a document and type those few words but with the release of richard jewel

01:10:31.120 clint eastwood's new movie about the aftermath of the 96 bombing in atlanta's centennial olympic park

01:10:36.560 those of us who reported the story are doing a fresh round of soul searching no one emerged from the

01:10:42.620 coverage with glory although jewel certainly deserved to i'm one of the reasons he didn't jewel might

01:10:50.120 not have been the first victim might have been the first victim of the 24-hour cable news cycle

01:10:55.080 he went from hero to villain in less than three days jewel was working security in centennial olympic

01:11:01.640 park when he discovered a backpack containing a bomb and alerted law enforcement the bomb exploded and

01:11:08.000 soon so did his life after the fbi decided that he was the suspect and the media piled on if jewel was

01:11:15.880 the first it would only get worse cable news accelerated the pace but social media made the

01:11:22.060 rush to judgment instantaneous as quick as machine trading on wall street but without any circuit breakers

01:11:29.740 think of that and they're right he might have been the first but it has gotten much much worse think of

01:11:37.160 what the media has done in this whistleblower case in this this whole thing about uh trump and russia

01:11:45.600 it's turning out it's all lies all lies uh our assignment desk said there had been an explosion

01:11:52.660 during a concert at centennial park across the street from our offices at cnn by the time i made it

01:11:57.320 downstairs it was clear from sources and witnesses that there had been a bomb the blast killed one one

01:12:02.240 one woman injured 111 a cameraman died of a heart attack as he rushed over to cover the explosion

01:12:08.480 these days we would call it an ied and in more innocent days the murder weapon was called a pipe

01:12:14.700 bomb during a news conference in those very early hours someone from the georgia state patrol mentioned

01:12:20.180 the security guard named richard jewel had spotted the backpack and alerted law enforcement he seemed to be

01:12:26.240 the hero of the story turned into a i turned to my guest booker and asked her track him down by that

01:12:33.040 evening we had had our man less than 24 hours after the bombing jewel and his mother arrived at cnn he was

01:12:38.900 flustered traffic in the area had been heavy and they had to rush the last several blocks newt gingrich

01:12:45.240 then house speaker and sam nunn were also in the newsroom both wanted to shake his hand and thank

01:12:50.960 thank him for being a hero even before he sat down on the set jewel was distracted by the attention

01:12:57.140 the interview i had pushed for offset um and set off the chains a chain of events that led to what

01:13:05.280 jewel later described as 88 days of hell a former employer of jewels the president of a college north

01:13:11.600 georgia was watching and called the fbi he wanted the bureau to know that jewel had worked for him and

01:13:16.820 that he had been forced to resign agents in the fbi behavioral science unit in quantico were also

01:13:22.460 paying attention they wondered why jewel looked uncomfortable and his eyes shifted around he seemed

01:13:27.680 suspicious there may not have been there's something that maxine waters might say i know

01:13:32.700 in my heart i will always know he did it there may not have been considered uh that this was jewel's

01:13:39.260 first tv interview and that it was being done remotely he was hearing questions from an anchor in

01:13:44.720 washington through an earpiece they were too busy thinking about jimmy wade pearson the guy during

01:13:50.420 the los angeles olympics in 84 pearson was a police officer who claimed to have found a bomb on a bus

01:13:55.580 carrying uh carrying luggage for turkish athletes pearson later admitted planting the device so he could

01:14:02.660 be the hero of his own story jewel had been a sheriff's deputy before working security at the college and he

01:14:07.940 had moved to atlanta hoping to boost his career his stint in law enforcement had not been without

01:14:12.880 controversy if you were an fbi profiler you could make all of this look sinister and they did a

01:14:19.800 colleague and i interviewed him again on the next night for a special report and after he turned off

01:14:24.600 the cameras jewel casually mentioned that he wouldn't be surprised based on his training if he was

01:14:29.540 considered a suspect he said that's just the way it worked he implied until you found the culprit

01:14:34.420 everyone in proximity especially the guy who discovered the bomb was in the frame

01:14:39.700 the world's media already gathered in atlanta 20 000 of us by some counts the fbi was under intense

01:14:47.980 pressure to solve this case and solve it quickly agents were chasing down dozens of leads trying to

01:14:53.900 figure out who had been near the bench and who made the 9-1-1 call the bomb in centennial park you have

01:15:00.000 30 minutes said the caller the fbi called jewel to the atlanta field office on tuesday afternoon

01:15:06.420 pretending they were making a training tape he was the hero so they wanted his help no need to bring

01:15:13.420 a lawyer they were going to lead him in lead him on and spring their trap as they were trying to trick

01:15:19.480 him into a confession free called atlanta and told the agents in the room to read jewel his rights

01:15:25.180 the agents made the situation worse by pretending that giving him his miranda rights was part of the

01:15:31.340 training tape law enforcement sources were already telling journalists that jewel was under investigation

01:15:37.120 even before he made it to the fbi for his interview several of us were meeting in the offices of cnn's

01:15:43.940 president to discuss how we would report the news should we call him a suspect or the more cautious

01:15:49.560 person of interest that's when johnson got a call from the editor of the atlanta journal saying the paper

01:15:54.740 was about to put out a special edition naming jewel as the bombing suspect that's when things went off the

01:16:00.940 rail instead of going with a more neutral language language we favored johnson had the anchors on set

01:16:06.880 hold up the front page of the journal and read the headlines by the time jewel's lawyer heard the news

01:16:12.540 he had managed to get through to the fbi switchboard to his client and he told him get out of the field

01:16:18.020 office the collective weight of law enforcement in the media had already begun turning jewel from hero to a

01:16:25.020 villain think of that think of that this was 1996 the dawn of the internet age so the process took some

01:16:33.500 time um he goes on later we did a story that same week showing that under the fbi's timeline of the

01:16:40.260 body of the bombing jewel couldn't have made the warning call to 9-11 by then though it didn't matter

01:16:47.320 the media was camped out in front of jewel's apartment every time he went somewhere he was followed by an

01:16:52.840 absurd caravan of fbi agents and cameras it was relentless and it was wrong richard jewel was not

01:17:00.520 the olympic park bomber despite the innuendo and fbi leaks that he was their man jewel was never charged

01:17:08.640 now think of this despite of the innuendo that is happening on the in the media and the fbi leaks

01:17:16.520 that he was their man does any of this sound familiar even though he was never charged

01:17:24.120 he was still the suspect eventually there were more bombings using similar devices outside a gay

01:17:31.700 nightclub and an abortion clinic in atlanta and birmingham police officer was killed nurse was

01:17:36.780 maimed the real culprit was finally identified more than a year later he was a christian terrorist who

01:17:42.440 hated the new world order abortion and the olympics but as soon as eric robert rudolph was named he

01:17:49.860 disappeared into the mountains the happiest i ever saw richard jewel was april 13th 2005 the day

01:17:57.020 rudolph pleaded guilty in federal court in atlanta to the olympics bombing jewel was smiling before the

01:18:03.640 hearing looking fit in the company of his wife he had never gotten the proper recognition for his

01:18:09.640 heroism after those first few days but his lawyers negotiated settlements from nbc cnn the new york

01:18:16.680 post piedmont college and uh whose president had called the fbi but he got nothing from the journal

01:18:23.440 constitution which argued that its reporting like ours had been correct at the time and that jewel was a

01:18:30.500 public figure thanks to interviews he had done for us at cnn and therefore he faced a tougher standard

01:18:37.900 for suing for defamation i didn't say sorry when i left jewel that april day we simply exchanged

01:18:45.880 greetings i saw him a year later at a training exercise for law local law officers he was back

01:18:52.600 on the job as a sheriff's deputy and friendly even though he went cold when he saw an fbi agent in

01:18:57.940 attendance a couple of days later i said at the computer i started my letter of apology i got frustrated

01:19:04.300 and hit save a year after that jewel died after months of failing health my letter remained unfinished

01:19:11.100 and unsent so how do i make sense of all this three these years later when i have an emmy on my shelf

01:19:18.660 for my coverage in those first 24 hours we in the media got it wrong even though our reporting was right

01:19:26.840 there's a paradox jewel wasn't the fbi's main suspect yes the fbi has a lot to answer for but this is about

01:19:34.720 our responsibility suppose that cnn had been more nuanced and called jewel a person of interest

01:19:40.300 our repetitive and relentless coverage would still have made it look like the authorities thought he was

01:19:45.680 the culprit in my own reporting i've learned to be more skeptical of sources especially when they claim

01:19:51.420 to speak for the government especially at its highest levels my stories these days don't go on

01:19:57.160 air without relentless fact checking and my scripts have more footnotes than any term paper i did in

01:20:02.360 college but the lesson is that isn't always enough it's how you report it and how everyone else is

01:20:09.000 reporting it too someone else's guilty plea and several court settlements didn't give jewel his good

01:20:15.260 name back maybe the film finally will and next time i will own up to my responsibility i will finish

01:20:23.300 that letter letter because it's never too late to apologize an open letter from a cnn staffer

01:20:30.980 to richard jewel i wonder if anyone at cnn is reading this including the author and seeing the similarities

01:20:39.940 of what they've done with fbi sources telling them incorrect information and going after their guy

01:20:49.920 because they know he's guilty

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01:22:22.180 there is a uh there's a new focus group uh report out on uh voters

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01:26:57.840 there's a new focus group out that shows that swing voters who voted for barack obama and then

01:27:08.040 donald trump are firmly in trump's camp now and they're sick of the impeachment a two-hour plus

01:27:15.940 conversation revealed major warning signs for the democratic party it was the biggest takeaway

01:27:21.760 that who voted those who voted for obama in 2012 and trump in 2016 are now firmly in this camp they

01:27:30.740 say the house democrats moving towards impeachment of the president they hate that they call it a

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01:28:35.980 so the x chair is something that my wife is going to get for christmas because she asked for it

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01:30:12.760 all right steven kent is here he is uh with young voices and the host of beltway bantha's podcast

01:30:33.000 which is a fun podcast uh and this week the new star wars do we have a bit of the clip for the new

01:30:39.460 star wars uh this is the uh this the new star wars it comes out thursday stew has his tickets

01:30:46.940 pat has his tickets i don't have my tickets um but uh it opens up and this is this is the last

01:30:56.040 the rise of skywalker listen

01:30:59.220 it's an instinct

01:31:04.840 feeling

01:31:10.860 the force brought us together

01:31:14.700 we're not alone

01:31:20.460 good people will fight if we lead them

01:31:24.780 people keep telling me they know me

01:31:30.560 no one does

01:31:33.680 but i do

01:31:37.880 long have i waited

01:31:47.040 and now

01:31:50.420 you're coming together

01:31:55.500 is your undoing

01:32:03.040 what uh what uh what are you doing there 3po

01:32:09.380 taking one last look sir

01:32:12.820 at my friends

01:32:16.160 how sweet um i'm just getting so and so i'm getting really dark on all the cute little things that

01:32:26.460 george lucas started i just i want them all to die

01:32:29.660 i'm i'm for i'm for baby yoda but uh all the rest of the stuff that george lucas did i just want to die

01:32:35.880 um let's go to uh let's go to steven uh who's with us now steven kent hey steven

01:32:41.720 glenn good morning do you have any uh any insight on what's going to happen they're bringing ray and kylo

01:32:49.960 together to create balance is this is this going to be a preachy movie is what what's happening

01:32:58.240 well star wars is always at its best when it's a little bit preachy i mean it's never not had a

01:33:03.700 message since it began but again like what to expect the movies supposedly ended in 1983 and

01:33:09.960 then they ended again in 2015 and now here we are they're ending supposedly again in 2019 we've been

01:33:17.380 talking about this you and i since 2016 i gotta say my anxiety is pretty high and my expectations

01:33:22.480 are just kind of all over the place so do you think how who's directing this this is j.j abrams

01:33:30.060 again who took over the force awakens when it was rebooted he did a good job he did made people feel

01:33:35.520 comfortable with this being a reboot of star wars or a continuation of that story um i think it's a

01:33:41.260 nice safe pick that they did and it's going to round it all down nicely all right so this is not

01:33:45.640 one of them that it went through like three directors right j.j abrams been on this the whole time

01:33:50.880 uh it was originally slated to be given to colin trevorrow who directed the jurassic park sequels

01:33:57.740 and it was taken away from him for reasons that are kind of unclear but they've uh just written

01:34:03.560 that off to creative differences which means that he couldn't play ball with all the um the high

01:34:08.560 budget expectations that came with that studio um and uh and this is disney owned right oh yeah oh

01:34:17.200 yeah this is disney they're going to take us across the finish line here and uh try to make this all

01:34:22.140 make sense not just these three movies but all nine of them and you're asking about what to expect

01:34:27.780 from this movie i think the only thing that we have to go off of is the voice of emperor palpatine

01:34:33.600 that shows up in these trailers if you think about star wars and continuity the only thing that stretches

01:34:39.060 from episodes one all the way to nine is senator then chancellor then emperor palpatine and the actor

01:34:46.580 ian mcdiamid so he's coming back for this final movie and the big question is going to be how the

01:34:52.200 heck did that happen because he was blown to pieces in return of the jedi oh i hope they do another thing

01:34:57.300 where he floats through space like leia because that really worked well i thought steven is that the

01:35:01.820 worst thing you've ever seen they had the actress dies they have a way for her to die and they bring her

01:35:09.400 back uh yeah but would you have wanted leia to die but yes sucked into a vortex in space yes yes yes i

01:35:17.660 would have in fact there's a there's a vortex and i have several characters with the vortex with their

01:35:23.100 name on it yeah yeah that was uh that was an odd choice and i personally kind of fell out of my seat

01:35:29.040 at that uh and i just always look away when that scene comes around in the last jedi because it's a

01:35:33.580 little little too much cheese okay so they're mixing the two the dark force and the light they're

01:35:41.220 finding balance is that is that what we think this is going to be where they're like you know

01:35:46.300 not everything is bad well when i first came onto the blaze and talked to pat and stew in 2016 about

01:35:53.780 the force awakens and the last jedi that's where i was at that they were going to find a balance between

01:35:58.640 the light side and the dark side and kind of do away with this holy war between the jedi and the

01:36:03.140 sith and then that came around to the last jedi ryan johnson basically snubbed that idea entirely

01:36:08.940 and kept the status quo going i think all indicators are still pointing towards a complete disruption

01:36:15.100 of the jedi sith conflict in the light and dark paradigm and i think that's going to be pretty

01:36:19.820 healthy for star wars going forward if we can sort of balance out the moral imperative of having a

01:36:25.280 clear light and dark and good and evil that's the mix that they have to get right here so who is the

01:36:31.500 skywalker that's rising my opinion of this is that the skywalker is the force user so that the

01:36:39.180 skywalker is going to be sort of melded into a title for people who choose to walk in the ways of the

01:36:44.180 force study the old ways study the history luke skywalker anakin all those great heroes i think

01:36:50.900 they're going to do away with these sort of religious titles that come with the jedi and the sith

01:36:55.340 and they're going to be just a new class of warrior like samurais skywalkers that's my personal theory

01:37:01.300 the easier answer might just be that it's kylo ren because he's the only skywalker currently living

01:37:05.780 he's currently fallen and he could still stand back up and rise back to his family's legacy

01:37:10.700 tell me that you were not blown out of your shoes shocked when you heard that disney did not make

01:37:23.340 any baby yodas available for christmas that was pretty stunning it was really really stunning but

01:37:30.620 you know it kind of cuts against a couple different narratives about disney are they either after the

01:37:36.480 money and chasing every single dollar they can get or are they meticulous and protective of the brand

01:37:41.240 um it kind of threw a little bit of a wrench in everybody's opinions about disney with that

01:37:46.360 i think that they have a new mouse with baby yoda that thing is so cute it's making me watch these

01:37:53.220 the mandalorian and actually continuing to give it a chance even though the last few episodes have

01:37:59.500 been like okay come on let's let's pick it up here what what's the story yeah we're all we're all united

01:38:06.260 and stand with baby yoda it's been something our own household has enjoyed and it's it's pretty

01:38:10.540 remarkable to see that actually happen uh pretty organically where this sort of cute creature is put

01:38:15.800 into star wars to make everybody you know kind of be able to enjoy a kid-friendly series that is

01:38:21.080 otherwise pretty violent and it's being received incredibly well i mean i don't think it is it

01:38:27.840 shows that george lucas the george lucas impact or influence is gone because this is the character

01:38:35.500 that he always tried to find and they have now found it yeah i suppose that is true i know uh the

01:38:43.720 first bungle of cute creatures was with the ewoks and return of the jedi and they were horrible when you

01:38:48.680 think yeah when you think about the first uh early divisions in fandom fandom was always quite united

01:38:54.340 around star wars four and five that being the empire strikes back the first big rift was return

01:38:59.540 of the jedi uh and sort of the cute nature of the ewoks and some of the narrative choices of that film

01:39:05.600 and we've been reliving that horror show of incredibly divisive star wars movies ever since

01:39:11.160 i have a couple theories about that myself do you think do you think maybe this is where the divide

01:39:17.020 in america started the divide in america started yeah and on den door uh uh are you going to uh

01:39:27.660 are you going to the conference uh this weekend for turning point i am not no oh okay well i was

01:39:35.040 hoping to to see you there but uh i guess not so i'm sure you'll do a bang up job oh i'm sure i will

01:39:41.760 i'm sure i will what's your what do you have a uh have you done this thing that everyone is doing

01:39:45.800 with the ranking them in the you know all 10 movies in order of preference yeah you know i feel like

01:39:51.040 i've done it every two years and at this point i'm like tired of throwing it up there uh but return

01:39:55.680 of the jedi has always been my number one since we actually just discussed that and then revenge of

01:40:00.060 the sith episode three as my number two those are both incorrect just to let you know yeah

01:40:06.540 i've never i've never heard a correct answer when it comes to star wars and you know that's just kind

01:40:12.740 of the fun generational nature of this saga every group uh and cohort of generations have their own

01:40:19.500 preferences when it comes to these movies because it is their star wars and that's kind of why we're

01:40:24.120 all tearing each other's heads off perpetually with these movies um it's a little bit beautiful

01:40:29.260 it's also a little bit maddening so how do millennials stand on the first three

01:40:33.600 yeah yeah episode one two and three yeah they do they feel the same way

01:40:39.900 yeah elder elder millennials kind of fall in with gen x with a lot of skepticism about the prequels and

01:40:46.660 heavy critique what i've seen in the past couple of years has been an incredible um not revisionist

01:40:52.660 history but sort of a fighting back by millennials about enjoying the uh the first three star wars movies

01:40:58.680 because they were kids when they watched it they didn't really have those blinders on

01:41:02.840 about what is cheesy and what is bad acting they just watched it and it was star wars and it was

01:41:07.840 cool um so i've actually seen a huge swing back in favor of the prequels and a lot of people

01:41:13.700 readdressing those movies with a little bit more favorable light and that's what's so funny because

01:41:18.060 apparently star uh george lucas destroyed everyone's childhoods with those movies oh and now

01:41:23.020 we're gretta thernberg is talking about george gretta thernberg is talking about to george lucas when she

01:41:29.120 said you you stole my childhood you stole everything from me yeah she's talking specifically about

01:41:36.400 phantom menace that's what she's talking about how dare you steven kent thanks so much we'll talk to

01:41:41.720 you again steven kent uh spokesperson young voices and a host of beltway bantha's uh podcast all right

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01:43:46.060 so stew did you see the um the support for impeachment now uh dropping by double digits and

01:44:04.380 dropping really uh for women yeah i mean i polling i'd say is mixed on this there is a one uh there's

01:44:13.180 a couple good polls for trump that are out over the past couple days uh one in general election

01:44:17.600 matchups just kind of a weird poll from usa today which includes a third party candidate getting

01:44:23.440 double digits um but trump is beating in those matchups every single democrat um so it's one

01:44:29.600 thing that obviously the right is kind of excited about the poll is strange though with a third party

01:44:35.000 candidate who's unnamed getting 15 i mean like that's obviously not going to happen i think we can

01:44:41.000 all be clear that 15 of people are not voting for a third party candidate that's that's not going to

01:44:46.080 occur in this election um but don't you think that that is uh people thinking maybe that somebody in

01:44:53.680 the democratic party is you know going to pop in like a michelle obama or hillary clinton or somebody

01:45:01.280 there's a strange belief i think with people that something's going to happen and they got to get

01:45:06.440 somebody good and they're going to pop in at the convention which is hilarious because that is

01:45:10.680 just shows how bad their field is right they're all just like this can't be it right it's like a bad

01:45:16.580 turn in like a star wars like you're like you know he's like hey jar jar binks was actually the lead

01:45:23.200 jedi and you're like that can't be it though right like we're not gonna end the movie with jar jar is the

01:45:28.220 that's the way people feel that's how they feel about this field so they keep thinking that either

01:45:31.940 hillary or michelle obama or somebody else is going to come in as a sort of white knight to save

01:45:36.240 everybody i don't think that's happening um but i really don't think a third party candidate at this

01:45:41.620 point i mean the only one who would be even plausible would be someone like bloomberg who

01:45:46.380 would say killed he's going to go into the third party because they select bernie sanders or something

01:45:51.360 uh but i i do not think that that's going to happen that will just split the democratic vote

01:45:57.140 because people will vote all the youth will vote for bernie sanders yeah i mean and i so i don't

01:46:02.460 think that's it's unlikely that you you then have the the impeachment polls which you know there's a

01:46:07.900 there's a fox news poll that came out that was uh still has the president slightly underwater when

01:46:12.640 it comes to impeachment um this poll that you mentioned had a pretty big swing towards uh the

01:46:18.720 opposite showing that people are now opposing uh impeachment and removal i i do think that's where

01:46:25.180 it's going you know like for impeachment to happen and removal especially to happen you need a

01:46:32.100 president with a 20 approval rating you need like a nixon who has lost all of his allies has been

01:46:40.320 proven to be and this is just a partisan situation here like we're in a situation where you're going

01:46:45.640 to get they need 216 i believe votes um because of a few vacancies to get this over the hump in the

01:46:52.820 house um and they will get that likely i mean they have 194 on board right now confirmed on the

01:47:00.420 democratic side they have 11 that are undecided yeah i went through them um some of them are not

01:47:04.700 undecided i mean you know steny hoyer is not an undecided voter on impeachment he's going to vote for

01:47:09.200 it um i i found three uh house members who are in decently you know double digit trump districts

01:47:19.120 where trump won by double digits and they're undecided i think those are three obvious targets

01:47:24.500 uh then you have and i have another one two three four five of the 11 that are maybes um you know

01:47:31.000 including someone like tulsi gabbard who's in a very big clinton district however she just seems to

01:47:36.100 be against the grain enough that maybe she would vote that way uh you can find a couple of others but

01:47:40.820 to pick off what they would need to pick off you know 16 democrats or so doesn't seem likely

01:47:49.640 it's hard i'm having trouble getting anywhere close to 16 when it comes to people who are in that area

01:47:56.040 where they say okay i'm you know i'm in a i'm in a purple district and i don't want to piss off my

01:48:01.560 voters there's not a ton of them there's not enough to get to these numbers uh and obviously they

01:48:06.700 wouldn't call for this vote if they didn't think they had enough you're listening to glenn the

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01:49:39.280 welcome to the glenn beck program we have lauren chen the host of

01:50:09.080 pseudo-intellectual the podcast um and you're lauren you're a uh canadian welcome to texas it's

01:50:16.200 the real america it's colder than i thought it would be here though frankly i'm a little bit

01:50:21.200 disappointed i was hoping for some more well dallas is different dallas is uh you know this is i guess

01:50:26.960 the high elevations of of texas but uh so it's a little bit uh colder and and it tomorrow it could

01:50:33.760 be 90 probably i'm leaving tomorrow that would make so it probably will be 90 um so first of all

01:50:40.700 tell tell me about the podcast how the health is uh you know of the numbers etc etc because of

01:50:47.700 youtube i know a lot of your stuff is on youtube you're a member of the blaze uh tv so you're part

01:50:53.480 of our podcast family um but um how are you affected by the purge and everything that's going

01:51:00.160 on with google and youtube so for the purge there was this i think last week just this new set of

01:51:06.500 rules and policies regarding harassment that was released so far as far as i know they don't always

01:51:11.560 tell you about these things but we haven't had any videos taken down which the same can't be said for

01:51:16.320 other creators but we've been okay for that so far but for us the biggest thing with youtube and

01:51:21.100 google has just been this ongoing challenge of trying to get our videos out there previously with

01:51:26.820 youtube if you uh kind of tagged your videos properly if people were interested if engagement

01:51:31.840 was good youtube's youtube system would recommend you to potential viewers they watch they subscribe

01:51:38.040 your podcast grows like that or if you kind of can jump on the bandwagon topic that everyone's talking

01:51:43.560 about trending news you can kind of grow your audience like that not anymore that is not how that

01:51:48.880 happens anymore especially if you're in news commentary especially if you're in conservative news

01:51:53.880 commentaries so what we've been finding is that really the only way we're still able to be growing

01:51:58.620 which we are thank goodness is through our audience sharing our videos people don't understand how

01:52:04.240 important that is the to share um and not just like but share right um because if you don't share

01:52:12.240 the algorithms are not they're not doing anything for me or for lauren or anybody really that is

01:52:18.820 conservative it's they're not sharing i i look at like instagram i'm found always by uh zero numbers

01:52:28.400 outside of my subscribers yeah and it doesn't even make it all to the subscribers exactly no and youtube

01:52:34.080 i don't know if this is politically motivated or just their system is not good but subscribers will

01:52:39.800 actually get unsubscribed from your videos my own mother has been unsubscribed from my channel several

01:52:44.180 times so it's frustrating and she's telling you that she didn't do it yeah i'm hoping she did it

01:52:49.400 um but it's very very frustrating that's why some of our videos will actually tell people

01:52:53.340 please share our videos go to facebook twitter uh reddit wherever you can just uh you know or email

01:52:59.060 it to people even we have we can see where our traffic is coming from for some videos more people

01:53:04.380 find us from being emailed the video from their friends than youtube's actual system likewise

01:53:08.700 likewise which is ridiculous which is really bad but there are some conservatives that uh you know

01:53:14.700 want to force uh youtube or google or whatever uh control them give you know give the government

01:53:23.380 some oversight to it we're now having conservatives talk about porn and that porn should be regulated by

01:53:31.140 the government which is incomprehensible to me as a conservative well this is this is the debate

01:53:40.360 that's been blowing up on social media i remember i think it was last week i just log on to twitter

01:53:45.500 check my feed and everyone's talking about porn i'm like okay what's i've clearly missed something

01:53:50.520 um so how this conversation started off was matt walsh who's with the daily wire wrote an article

01:53:56.260 talking about how there's i guess renewed interest trying to do something about children having access

01:54:02.620 to pornography because i think there have been studies out the average age that a child first

01:54:07.340 sees hardcore porn is i think 11 or something like 11 years old and it's really shocking we're not just

01:54:12.780 talking about maybe the 70s era centerfold where it was just nudity this is porn real hard my son

01:54:20.660 found uh saw his first porn i think when he was eight uh wow and it really screwed him up i mean just

01:54:29.560 like i'm searching on the internet randomly yeah he was on somebody had handed him his phone or something

01:54:34.200 and randomly this porn thing came up uh and he went uh to the babysitter because he could didn't know

01:54:43.480 what to do with mom and dad and he went to the babysitter and he was so upset and crying and just like i

01:54:49.440 don't i don't know what this was no and it that's not an exception this is very very common you don't

01:54:56.080 even need to be looking at it with things like pop-ups you could just be on what you think is a

01:55:00.360 regular site and then you get an ad or something that's not so regular so with that in mind i think

01:55:05.680 everyone agrees children should not that's not acceptable um they shouldn't be exposed to that

01:55:11.200 so people like matt walsh who is somewhat more you know of the i guess let's get it done yeah i

01:55:18.520 didn't want to say that yeah your words not mine um so he's for just like let's get rid of this this

01:55:23.080 is not doing any good for anybody and his position was he wanted to ban it completely right yeah that's

01:55:28.300 insane he says he wants to ban it completely but if you read his article he kind of first started with

01:55:33.720 chill if there's a way that children can't do it that's good but he doesn't think it's possible

01:55:37.920 he doesn't think it's possible there are other um writers who have said well hang on let's and i'm

01:55:42.300 kind of in the i don't want to ban it not because i think it's good you should be looking at it but

01:55:46.240 it's like okay if you're an adult and you're that's your decision to make um but with when it

01:55:53.180 comes to children i do think we need to start having a conversation about what to do with this

01:55:57.660 in the uk they've uh before i guess they're a bit ahead of us they were having conversations about do

01:56:03.320 we need government involvement in this they ended up having coming to a system where

01:56:07.220 internet service providers actually have like a a filter that's on the default where you can still

01:56:12.300 opt out of um i'm not sure exactly how that works but it's sort of um it's an extra safeguard that's

01:56:19.780 by the internet service providers not not parliament to protect or just to make sure people don't

01:56:25.460 accidentally see things that they don't want to be and that's a smart guy that's one of the things

01:56:30.300 i really like about this debate as far as uh you know kind of in the conservative media is that

01:56:35.240 there's actually really smart people on both sides that that uh that i you know i that there's

01:56:40.340 like an interesting divide there like so many with these issues like you're talking about well

01:56:44.240 do you for impeachment or against impeachment and like you know 99 of conservatives are against it

01:56:50.300 and you know all the left like that that debate is somewhat boring to me like this is an interesting

01:56:54.280 one because there's people that i find to be very interesting on a lot of different topics that go the

01:56:58.940 opposite way i mean uh from me on this i think i think ben shapiro uh kind of broke it down and

01:57:04.940 kind of are you a rights-based conservative or a common good conservative and i thought that was

01:57:10.080 an interesting way of thinking about it because there's a lot of common good conservatives and

01:57:14.300 common good is no different than a progressive or a socialist but it's always common good well i mean

01:57:21.400 there's definitely differences i would say well no no but as far as you're just banning things or

01:57:26.960 saying you know better than everyone else uh and so you'll you'll control things from a top-down

01:57:33.960 government that's that's a progressive mindset makes me nervous for sure you don't you don't do that

01:57:39.700 there are a lot of conservatives like matt walsh or and even michael knowles again with the daily

01:57:43.660 wire who are saying we're not libertarians we are conservatives if we're like they don't have a

01:57:49.820 problem with it but what what i'm interested in this discussion for is the aspect of children

01:57:54.660 like i said if you're an adult you do you i would you know want to have a conversation with you if

01:58:00.860 you were my friend or family member about the healthiness of that but you should have the right

01:58:04.100 to but when it comes to children i think you know we we don't allow children to go buy tobacco products

01:58:10.040 we don't allow children to go buy alcohol we don't allow children to buy firearms right um it is strange

01:58:15.580 when it comes to children there's like this almost we're not okay with talking about it it's it's just

01:58:21.120 we've taken for granted that this is what is going to happen children will access this and it's like

01:58:25.120 well hang on can we at least maybe discuss this is there something parents need to be doing more

01:58:30.600 should we be this should this be a tech-based conversation i just want us to be addressing

01:58:35.660 this more because before we started looking into it i had no idea and maybe this is because i'm

01:58:40.660 you know a little bit older than some of the kids who are coming into this now i was from the

01:58:45.120 dial-up generation internet was not a given run it was kind of like do you do you need to call

01:58:49.660 someone today because i would like to send an email sort of thing it's very different now um

01:58:53.740 there are studies that have been done that show that the i think it's the younger you are when

01:58:58.100 you're first exposed to pornography the more likely you are to slide into actual like deviant upset

01:59:04.560 things like bestiality and things like that so people have called this a public health crisis and

01:59:09.100 for a lot of people who are maybe struggling with addiction i don't think that's i don't think

01:59:13.740 that's there's no there is no doubt studies have been done on the brain to show that a when you're

01:59:22.200 a kid you you are not able to handle this b when you're an adult pornography has the same um

01:59:29.660 properties as heroin does it actually chemically affects your brain the same way heroin does it

01:59:37.160 becomes addictive and destructive now not everybody but you know for a good number of people it does

01:59:44.920 that doesn't mean that you know heroin uh we do ban but alcohol look how destructive that is in

01:59:52.460 people's lives but that's my choice to drink and destroy my life or not when it comes to kids there

01:59:59.300 are technological ways if we were serious that we could give people the opt-out to make sure that

02:00:05.980 doesn't happen it's clearly something we can do when it comes to conservative i'm a conservative

02:00:12.180 but i'm a constitutionalist and i don't uh take kindly to the limiting of any kind of speech especially

02:00:21.480 that kind of speech which i abhor well that's actually its own conversation because within the

02:00:27.600 the porn debate there's also people asking is porn even free speech right does that count as freedom

02:00:33.760 of expression the same way something like an unpopular opinion might count as freedom of

02:00:38.260 expression a lot of people will say of course porn is free speech but when you think about it

02:00:42.740 you know you can go on the street corner and say whatever type of political views you want

02:00:47.400 no matter how controversial you can't go on the street corner right play any kind of video you want

02:00:53.780 even with how our society functions there is clearly we are putting porn in a different category and

02:01:01.200 then some people say well what about sexual art how does that fit into free speech and it's like

02:01:06.020 this is a conversation where i don't have all the answers i don't even know myself where do we draw

02:01:09.820 that line because there are obscenity laws yes that have been ruled constitutional and i don't know where

02:01:13.880 that line is right but that that is if it is out in public and that's why solve this by giving people

02:01:20.940 a way to keep that away from unsuspecting people that's kind of you have to choose and go into it

02:01:27.940 no tricks you know and you can opt out but you know there's no other form of speech where there's

02:01:33.900 a public versus private definition right because i i have leftists tell me that all the time well i

02:01:38.760 didn't consent to hear your hate speech and like whatever it's freedom of expression you don't need

02:01:42.680 to consent to hear me but i do agree with you when it comes to something like pornography there should

02:01:46.460 be two-way consent involved for viewing but again this is an area where that we are treating

02:01:50.740 porn different than other forms of speech so i'm not saying people shouldn't be able to do it but i think

02:01:55.460 we do need to realize we've already put it in this other category and when that disturbs me i'm more

02:02:03.180 hyper vigilant on it because i don't want any biting around the edges of any kind of speech or uh or or

02:02:13.000 silencing of anything um in this society now because every step we take with an excuse it gets easier

02:02:22.240 and easier to say well this is damaging too to hear lauren chen talk about these things which were

02:02:27.680 clearly not right uh that's that's harming children and i just i'm sorry but i believe in the slippery slope

02:02:35.880 lauren thank you so much that's lauren chen you can find her uh pseudo intellectual podcast wherever

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02:04:12.720 all right on tomorrow's program uh they're going to be debating uh in the in the house uh the the

02:04:39.520 vote on impeachment and uh the house right now the house committee is holding its last hearing

02:04:45.860 before the vote and then it goes to congress or it goes to the senate yeah it's it's an interesting

02:04:50.640 thing you have you have to get to 216 uh you have to get 216 votes basically for the democrats for the

02:04:57.960 democrats so the democrat you basically have to pick off a bunch here and i went through all the people

02:05:03.120 who are undecided or no response yet to an actual answer you've got three people who are in districts

02:05:09.520 where trump won by 10 points or more three democrats those are very highly probable um that you could

02:05:15.940 pick those off and they would vote against the impeachment then you haven't probably be allowed

02:05:20.100 to by pelosi would probably let them go yeah um then you have another nine who are in districts

02:05:25.260 where trump won from between zero to ten points so you're really swing districts but trump actually won

02:05:30.760 them another four that are in districts where trump lost but it was close between zero and ten so that

02:05:37.100 gets you to 16 um right there then you have um another three that were in 10 to 20 point range which

02:05:46.000 were you know relatively close but still clinton won it's gonna be difficult i would say to get there

02:05:52.760 i can't imagine nancy pelosi would have called for this vote and gone down this road if she didn't

02:05:58.320 think she had the votes i think what you'll see is high single digits of defections from the democrats

02:06:04.140 you know eight or nine in that general vicinity um because you'll you know some people are going to

02:06:08.440 want to protect their districts and and say that they voted against the impeachment to try to get

02:06:12.560 re-elected and and pelosi is you know all she cares about let's be honest she doesn't care about any

02:06:17.160 of this stuff all she cares about are the votes all she cares about is power and she plays these games

02:06:21.620 really only looking through the prism she wanted trump out of there obviously on day one but

02:06:27.720 she didn't support impeachment for a very long time until she thought for some reason this was

02:06:31.360 going to give her an advantage i think what the polls are showing now though is it's not an

02:06:34.880 advantage it's not worked uh you have not convinced the american people uh and i think you're going to

02:06:40.000 start seeing negative repercussions from this and i think that's the theory in getting this senate

02:06:46.040 thing over with don't screw up a good thing i don't necessarily agree with that idea from the

02:06:50.560 republicans but because i would like to see these facts come out and have the american people look at

02:06:55.140 them but i think that's their their calculus here it's like we've got a good thing we've won this

02:07:00.200 already don't screw it up i think so too i don't think that they're actually going to call anybody i

02:07:06.200 think they're going to acquit the president just by a simple vote based on what mcconnell said today

02:07:11.740 uh about how they're not going to call any witnesses

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The Glenn Beck Program - December 17, 2019

The Democrats’ Collusion Theory ｜ Guests： Douglas MacKinnon, Lauren Chen & Stephen Kent ｜ 12⧸17⧸19

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