On today's episode of Monday Night Frights, Glenn and Stu discuss the break-in at the Pelosi residence and what the media is trying to spin it as a "suspect." Also, a new conspiracy theory about what happened to Paul Pelosi.
00:10:02.940They're usually right near each other, but they do try to keep them separate.
00:10:06.320And these are usually the people that, just to throw people off, have a rainbow flag in the front yard and a BLM sign on their front window.
00:10:17.160A lot of hardcore conservatives have that profile.
00:10:34.120I would imagine that they're more left leaning, uh, because of their support for, uh, the gay community, um, and for, uh, I'm sorry for other people, but, uh, it is, uh, now I'm not sure what way.
00:11:18.300I mean, you wouldn't, you would, it doesn't look like, uh, you know, the, the typical white Karen that's next door upset about the, the, the, the left wing neighbors.
00:13:40.420Can you imagine how bad the country would be if we have Joe Biden and then it would go to Kamala and then she gets sick and dies and we have Nancy Pelosi.
00:29:15.380I mean, when Hinckley said, I just, I wanted to impress her because I love her, and I watch all of her movies, and I thought this would impress her, and he tried to kill Ronald Reagan.
00:29:27.080Was there one peep of saying, this is Jodie Foster's.
00:29:32.400We gotta put pants and a big coat on that woman.
00:29:36.400Make sure she looks very unattractive.
00:29:46.140Just like, by the way, we did not blame Bernie Sanders for his own, his campaign volunteer trying to shoot 10% of all elected Republicans in Washington, D.C.
00:29:56.240By the way, can I ask, why the concern here about this guy and the guy who flew in, I think, from San Francisco to kill Kavanaugh?
00:30:41.500We are in the Hunter Biden window here.
00:30:43.540We learn about the truth of Hunter Biden from the mainstream media approximately one year after it's relevant to an election and one year before it's relevant to an election.
00:30:53.360As far away from an election as possible.
00:30:56.020Well, now that we're weak, we are in full-fledged Hunter Biden, the Hunter Biden window, where the media seems to have completely convinced themselves they can abandon all, all appearance of journalism to try to win this election.
00:31:14.300To do anything they can to flip one or two seats here or there in an area that might have gone red, make them go blue, anything we can do.
00:31:45.020Like the one that Hillary Clinton is currently pushing about the 2024 election, saying that it's all going to be stolen by the Republicans?
00:32:10.860All of these things that they have been saying, Russiagate, all of this, Joe Biden is clean.
00:32:16.980There's no, he's the cleanest, clean guy.
00:32:19.280Fetterman is completely healthy and ready to serve.
00:32:23.620This is incredible coming from these people.
00:32:27.260And they wonder why conspiracy theories bubble up.
00:32:32.460Well, because somebody thinks something's wrong.
00:32:35.920And let me use let me use the left or the right doing something wrong that causes conspiracy theories.
00:32:42.900The 9-11 Commission excusing, what was his name, that came out with the underpass, Sandy Berger, who went into the National Archives.
00:32:53.800Now, think of this, with what we've just gone through with Donald Trump.
00:32:59.000Sandy Berger goes in, asks for the presidential archives for George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, opens them up.
00:33:09.820It's about Saudi Arabia, something about relationships.
00:33:13.120We don't really know any more than that.
00:33:15.100Puts it in his underpants, leaves, goes across the street, destroys a few by the time the National Archives run out to catch him and get the rest of the, and he's only, he only lost his security clearance for a year.
00:33:35.980Remember, you want to know why there's a conspiracy theory around 9-11?
00:33:49.720When something doesn't make sense, they try to make sense of it.
00:33:54.820And anyone who is giving them lines of bullcrap and just doesn't say what we said earlier this morning, we don't know what happened.
00:34:04.960But here are some questions that need to be answered.
00:34:09.260Those people are not furthering conspiracy theories.
00:34:13.480Those people who ask questions are the ones that create the conspiracy, are the ones who create the conspiracy theory, look at people like us and say, they're even questioning this.
00:34:27.760How could they possibly question this?
00:40:12.380The vaccines, if you even questioned if there was anything, you, California was telling doctors, if you spread this misinformation, you could be subject to discipline and lose your medical license.
00:40:29.820New data shows, nah, not so much, not so much.
00:40:33.980January 6th, Nancy Pelosi calling in the National Guard.
00:40:37.800They tried to make it look like, you know, anybody who said, wait, President Trump offered the National Guard days ahead.
00:40:55.500FBI intelligence warning January 6th protesters might violently storm the Capitol.
00:41:00.680Emailed the night before the riot to the Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer.
00:41:05.500You've got more, you've got more, the mistreatment of January 6th defendants, the irregularities in the 2020 election, the critical race theory in school.
00:41:16.020That's just what, that's just white people.
00:41:18.740That's racist to even say that it's not happening.
00:45:58.880Deep down in the filthy gutter where the rain and the leaves go down to die beneath the city.
00:46:04.880There lurks an evil clown, just waiting for the day that you pass by a little too closely to his lair.
00:46:14.880He laughs a throaty, evil little laugh and dances around in delight every time he thinks about what he's going to do when, not if, when he catches you on some dark and rainy day.
00:46:29.880Of course, that's just what he does with most of his time.
00:46:35.880The rest of his time is pretty boring, really.
00:47:41.880Well, look, what we know is that this is somebody who, according to multiple witnesses, including the mother of his children, was struggling with mental illness for over a decade.
00:47:56.880You know, we mental illness, serious mental illness like schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are pretty rare.
00:48:02.880But we do see a lot of drug induced mental illness and particularly from methamphetamine use.
00:48:09.880But certainly other drugs over time can cause psychosis, which is, of course, the classic, you know, insanity of not being able to tell the difference between reality and your imagination.
00:48:20.880And so what's obvious here is that the alleged suspect in the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband was in the grip of psychosis.
00:48:29.880And to blame political ideology is just what you said.
00:48:35.880It's the equivalent of blaming Martin Scorsese for making the movie Taxi Driver on John Hinckley Jr.'s attack on Ronald Reagan.
00:48:43.880It's it's the this the the crazy ideas expressed in the blog posts of the alleged attacker of Pelosi are themselves symptoms of the underlying psychosis.
00:48:54.880It's incorrect to point to them as the cause.
00:48:57.880So I heard this morning that he is in the hospital or was this weekend.
00:49:03.880Were those for injuries or is he in a psych ward?
00:49:11.880You know, I think if he's you know, if it wouldn't he wouldn't be hospitalized long term if he's in the hospital, he'll be held.
00:49:20.880He diagnosed by a psychiatrist and we'll find out soon.
00:49:25.880I mean, I think that the good news is that we the truth gets out.
00:49:29.880It was obvious to me because, of course, I'm very close to this.
00:49:32.880I wrote a whole book about this came out last year.
00:49:34.880It was obvious to me as soon as I heard about who he was and started talking to his neighbors and his family members that this was somebody that was unwell.
00:49:47.880I was disturbed by how quickly even so called mainstream journalists were to basically go and blame conservatives, blame Republicans, blame Trump.
00:49:57.880You know, if somebody were to be like, I read Michael Schellenberger's book and that's why I committed this crime, it would be inappropriate to blame me for that crime.
00:50:18.880In fact, we were clear on day one that it wasn't Bernie Sanders fault that one of his supporters went and tried to kill all the Republicans in Congress.
00:50:31.880I mean, basically, I had one episode in particular.
00:50:34.880There's a reporter who supposedly like focused on disinformation at NBC News who came out and he tweeted at my my reporting and said, oh, my reporting had been debunked because there's all these blog posts showing that the suspect in the attack had written crazy things, including some right wing things, but also things about fairies.
00:50:59.880And I found it very disturbing because I have a hard time believing that that journalist didn't know that what was driving the suspect was like was mental illness or psychosis.
00:51:14.880It really appeared that he was deliberately misleading people in order to engage in partisan political behavior just 10 days before an election.
00:51:25.880I mean, if you watch Meet the Press yesterday, Chuck Todd's program on NBC, the whole program was basically dedicated to this topic.
00:51:33.880And at no point in any of the program did they even discuss the fact that the suspect was clearly in a psychotic state suffering from delusions under long term drug use.
00:51:43.880Instead, Chuck Todd made the whole show about political radicalization and ideas.
00:51:49.880And I just think that's terrible reporting.
00:51:53.880I won't speculate as to the motives of the journalists, but it's either bad journalism or it's it's motivated by politics.
00:52:00.880Is it worse that they did that or that when Kavanaugh, the guy from California, came to kill Kavanaugh, they didn't even report it on any of the Sunday morning shows?
00:52:24.880There are many progressive and liberal people in my life who still do not know that there was a serious assassination plot against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh because it was not covered in anything close to this.
00:52:38.880So just as you said, three days after that assassination plot was revealed, none of the Sunday talk shows wrote about it.
00:52:44.880The New York Times buried the story on page A20.
00:52:48.880The Pelosi assassination, alleged assassination attempt was on the front page of New York Times two days in a row.
00:52:54.880You know, and I'll tell you the other thing about it is that the suspect in the Kavanaugh killing was clearly motivated by his pro-choice and his pro-gun control views.
00:53:06.880And his own lawyers last week said that he was mentally fit to stand trial.
00:53:13.880In other words, it appears and again, there's still more information to come and I don't want to get ahead of it, but it appears as though the suspect in the Kavanaugh plot was genuinely motivated by political fanaticism, not by mental illness.
00:53:26.880Whereas in the Kavanaugh case, he clearly was driven by psychosis, mental illness, drug-induced or underlying, we don't know.
00:53:35.880But the media basically reversed those two stories and covered the Kavanaugh plot attempt as though it were driven by political fanaticism rather than by psychosis.
00:53:46.880It really is incredible. You are from the area, Michael, and you were down there, right? Some of these interviews we've seen, you were there, right?
00:53:56.880I was. I was. I mean, I think it's, you know, I'm a journalist at heart and so it's not that far from my house.
00:54:04.220And I went down there and I interviewed all the neighbors. I mean, I'll tell you a couple of shocking things.
00:54:09.800I won't name names, but I was not impressed by the reporting of the other journalists.
00:54:15.520Good journalism is that you go and knock on all the doors and you interview as many people as you can.
00:54:20.900I was the only one doing that. There was a lot of laziness here.
00:54:26.140There's a lot. And it's also the partisanship and the laziness are related because if you have the idea that this was, you know, a Trump supporter who went after Pelosi,
00:54:34.720then you don't want to go and get to the bottom of the other stuff.
00:54:37.540If you don't want to go do those interviews, you want to stick with your little story.
00:54:41.080So that was that was part of it. And then, you know, like there's just it's a really you know, when you get into it, Glenn, as you might imagine, it's a tragic story.
00:54:50.260I mean, it's it's drug use. It's pedophilia.
00:54:55.580The ex the the mother of his two kids is in prison for basically child molestation.
00:55:02.020And she was a crazy person. So she herself is something I think she probably has a personality disorder and also long term drug use.
00:55:11.080The kids are in that house. They apparently weren't going to school.
00:55:14.900I mean, this is a real you know, it's basically a symptom of exactly the problems I described in San Francisco,
00:55:20.220which is that we've stopped enforcing basic laws.
00:55:23.580And when you stop enforcing laws against people that are suffering mental illness or addicted to hard drugs, they don't get the help they need.
00:55:32.220And I think that's part of the lesson here is that this tragedy could have been averted if we enforced basic laws and mandated drug treatment and psychiatric care for the people who need it.
00:55:44.300You know, it's not that every time someone you arrest somebody for breaking a law that they have to go to prison or they have to be punished.
00:55:50.660Certainly some people do, but other people are just sick.
00:55:53.720And I think that I think what we'll discover as as time goes on is that the suspect in the Pelosi attack was somebody who was very ill and needed to get treatment mandated many, many years ago,
00:56:05.020but didn't get it because we're in the grip of, frankly, some pretty radical left political ideas.
00:56:10.180Did you see the op-ed by gosh, who was it?
00:57:16.160And he basically, to his credit, there was an ambivalent reaction to it, interestingly enough.
00:57:21.820But basically, to his credit, he came out and said it was wrong for The New York Times to fire its op-ed page editor, who ran, of course, this op-ed by Senator Cotton, arguing for the use of the National Guard and U.S. troops to put down the riots.
00:57:38.320Well, he was not only did The New York Times, because of the outrage by its woke journalist staff, they basically denounced the op-ed.
00:57:48.660Everybody watched this happen and knew it was wrong.
00:57:52.640And, you know, so to his credit, whatever it was, like two years ago now, this columnist of The Washington Post said that that was wrong.
00:58:00.580You know, I think it's good that, you know, it's better late than never.
00:58:03.920And he's one of the first people to say it.
00:58:05.680But, yeah, I mean, it's almost a kind of, yeah, it's social fear.
00:58:10.340You're worried about your friends and your family, but it's also a financial fear, like, am I going to get fired from my job?
00:58:15.120You know, this is really serious stuff.
00:58:18.980And I think that the partisanship, and you always emphasize this, I think it's so important, you know, we need to allow disagreement in our society.
00:58:30.440I always kind of, I'm always shocked by how many people, instead of being like, oh, I disagree with you, they're like, you should stop saying that.
00:58:38.200You know, there's the desire to get people to be quiet.
01:07:16.540I mean, I think we're going to, I think we have to have some confidence that we'll find out.
01:07:20.120And I think it'll be hard for there to be, I think there's concerns about a kind of conspiracy by law enforcement or the district attorney.
01:07:27.280And that's just very hard to pull off when there's going to be a lot of evidence that both the defense and the prosecutors are going to be demanding.
01:07:36.220Is there, does it bother you that somehow or another there was like the security was turned off?
01:07:43.240I mean, this is, would you say this is a Capitol Police failure or Secret Service?
01:07:48.160I mean, he's, she's number three in line and I know they have serious United States government security.
01:07:58.820I mean, here's the thing you have to keep in mind is that, you know, a homeless, mentally ill guy physically attacked Governor Gavin Newsom of California.
01:08:08.020You know, as you mentioned, January 6th, there was a Capitol Police failure.
01:08:11.060So, you know, security is often not that good.
01:08:14.980And, you know, honestly, I've seen guys on methamphetamine do crazy, amazing things.
01:08:20.400So I wouldn't be surprised if he got through security.
01:08:51.340I mean, what I documented is that a former Obama advisor and, uh, somebody who is known as being a moderate named Jason Bordoff at a conference last week.
01:09:03.500Floated the idea of nationalizing oil companies.
01:09:07.260Now, he then later said, oh, I didn't explicitly say nationalizing, but what he said is that the government should, quote unquote, strand assets.
01:09:16.360That's a little bit of jargon for basically make oil company assets worthless so that the government then can buy them at a low price or take control of them.
01:09:54.060Well, I think it'll depend on what happens in the midterms.
01:09:57.240I mean, I think the thing you have to keep in mind is that there was a big poll that came out that showed that I think 64% of the public does blame Biden for high oil prices.
01:10:06.720I think they, you know, there's been effort by Democrats to somehow say, oh, Biden's not responsible for it.
01:10:11.920Even if he goes and begs the Saudis and the Venezuelans to produce more oil, um, even as he releases oil from our strategic petroleum reserve in an effort to reduce prices.
01:10:21.380So, uh, look, I think that after this, I believe that the Republicans are going to take the house and they may very well take the Senate.
01:10:28.440And after that, the Democrats are going to have to moderate because they've just gone so crazy to the radical left over the last two years or longer.
01:10:37.100I think they're going to have to moderate because I just think it's not viable to take on all these very extreme positions.
01:10:43.220And do you think the radical left, because I, I mean, I, I, I fear the left is actually got them by the throat.
01:10:52.940Uh, and, uh, you know, they, they have all the strings of the street protests and the violence.
01:10:59.760And are they going to let the left and right moderate?
01:11:04.800Yeah, I mean, look, the radical left is going to be the radical left and they're going to be demanding those things.
01:11:11.140But at the same time, there's people in the democratic party that want to win.
01:11:13.840And so you saw Biden very quickly say that we should fund the police, not defund the police because they knew it was a complete political disaster.
01:11:24.800So, yeah, at some point it's basically a contest within the democratic party between people that want to win and want power and the people that are, you know, fanatics.
01:11:33.220And there, there's always going to be fanatics, but there's also people that want to remain politically viable.
01:11:38.700Michael, does it appear to you at all, um, that there are some, uh, in Washington that appear to be itching for a war?
01:11:48.200Uh, you know, we're, we're, the streets are on fire in Europe because the people are standing up saying, okay, this is nuts.
01:11:57.840And if this means that we're going to war, we're getting out of NATO, uh, things are really, really shaky.
01:12:04.620And, you know, the, the, the two countries with the most weapons, both seem to have an itchy trigger finger or, uh, or, uh, uh, you know, a, a spasmodic eye.
01:12:19.580You know, of course, I mean, everybody should be concerned when, you know, two nuclear armed countries are fighting a proxy war in Ukraine.
01:12:27.440Uh, I'm not sure what we can do about it.
01:12:30.040You know, obviously I think everybody wants to see peace.
01:12:32.600We also don't want to see powers like Russia and China just go invade other countries.
01:12:39.260But yeah, I mean, look, I think we're, civilization is in crisis and we need to affirm the fact that we have this beautiful liberal democracy.
01:12:48.220We have, uh, a mixed economy that's, uh, market capitalism and we also have some entitlements and we have a role for government and we need to get back to some, some basics, some basic moderate principles.
01:13:00.240You know, the United States is, we're still blessed.
01:13:04.660We have a country that assimilates immigrants and, and we've just gotten some extremes that have pushed the country into really dangerous directions that I think we need some transcendent moral leadership at this point.
01:13:17.800It's a little terrifying to me to hear them talk about, um, you know, nationalizing gas and oil, that, that, that was the end of Venezuela.
01:13:26.140They also have plenty of oil and natural resources that they could exploit.
01:13:31.980And they're just not because government is not a good operator.
01:14:01.020So I think we need to, you know, I think there will be a big change after the election because I think they're going to, I think the Democrats, um, it's going to become clear that they've just become too extreme.
01:14:10.200I, I don't, I mean, wokeism, the radical wokeism that we're seeing is genuinely a threat to civilization.
01:14:17.300At the same time, the backlash against it, this, you know, the, the pushing of trans ideology on the kids, the climate extremism, the war on oil and gas, you know, the, the, the politicization of mental illness, people are sick of it.
01:14:34.640And I think we want to come together as a country around some basic principles of civilization, which at the end of the day are cheap energy, law and order, and meritocracy.
01:14:43.980If you don't have those things, you don't have a civilization.
01:15:03.060I think he was, I think he was, because he was, he was the time magazine environmentalist, you know, um, you know, of the decade or the world or whatever.
01:15:17.800He wound up doing, I thought the first time I became aware of Michael was his work, uh, working as an environmentalist to saying, but you know, Hey, nuclear power is something we should probably consider here.
01:15:32.160And you know, if you don't, if, uh, if you don't look, follow him on, on sub stack, he's got a great sub stack where he writes about this stuff.
01:15:46.160To know what was going on, we have, you know, newspapers with multi-million dollar budgets that pay reporters who just went through his Facebook and looked for things on the right and are just reporting those.
01:16:00.260Where Michael, who actually went down.
01:16:02.180I don't even know if they did that because it was taken, it was taken off.
01:16:05.500So they just reported what, whatever was given to them.
01:16:08.880There's so much, the laziness he hit on earlier is so key in reporting right now because, you know, Twitter is good for a lot of things.
01:16:15.440But one of the things it's bad for is it just gives reporters a database that they can just search and look for tweets about the topic that they're talking about.
01:16:22.760This is why you always say, you hear these stories and then they're constantly peppered with stuff like, one Twitter user said.
01:16:36.320But it's the nice, easy, lazy way to do journalism.
01:16:39.780Unlike what Michael had to do is actually walk through a neighborhood, talk to people, knock on doors, try to understand the big picture rather than just the one that they want to push forward.
01:40:56.160Well, you know, the reporting on this I find to be very interesting because there have been two major stories, one by Rolling Stone, one by the Daily Beast, which kind of contradict each other.
01:41:37.100Like where the guy worked for years and was very, very prominent.
01:41:41.540And, you know, apparently they're scrubbing from news stories that he was the producer for David Muir, you know, because we're going to pretend that this guy never existed before.
01:41:52.440Look, this is one of those classic stories that exposes a lot of what we talked about in the previous segment, that the lack of trust in all institutions, the media, the FBI, you know,
01:42:06.040all elements of our government is so low, so catastrophically low, that all bets are off now and that all questions are relevant.
01:42:15.100And even sometimes things that end up being conspiracy theories come from very rational people because that's the world we're now living in, that we no longer have any reason to trust what we're being told.
01:42:28.960As far as what really happened here, you know, the theory that this didn't have anything to do with his ABC work, I think makes some sense because there's no evidence that he went to ABC and said,
01:42:42.200hey, protect me here, because that would make some sense, right?
01:42:46.560If you're working at ABC and, you know, you're being accused of having, like, classified information related to your work,
01:42:52.740the first thing you're going to do to protect yourself is go to the giant ABC, use their lawyers, or what have you.
01:43:03.660This is a story that I think we absolutely should keep an eye on, but I don't currently have an answer to the question of what really happened.
01:43:11.420There's too many things here that are just wrong on it.
01:47:42.300It is interesting, though, because they do this all the time.
01:47:44.780And I can understand when they do it if there's a manifesto posted or something that they think is going to inspire someone in the moments after.
01:47:53.040They're, you know, like, they're copycat requests, right?
01:47:57.520Someone to, hey, do this mass killing that I just did type of stuff.
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