00:00:53.200It is a big day today. Another massive primary day. Florida, lots in the spotlight in the free state of Florida as we make the big news there today.
00:01:06.260You've got the same thing happening in Florida. By the way, I've heard through the grapevine that the great state of Florida, free state of Florida, is the next target of this socialist revolution.
00:01:18.840So they're already starting to target some races at Democrats.
00:05:17.440Just an incredible moment inside the white.
00:05:19.920But you also got a little bit because the reporters get to ask the questions they want to ask, you know.
00:05:25.580Speaking of transparency, he's had more probably in the first year than Biden did all four.
00:05:31.600Maybe in the first few months of answering questions, actually being there.
00:05:39.280In fact, we've just learned, it just reminds me, I saw the other day, I think it was Tapper and a couple of these other folks who wrote that book about Biden.
00:05:47.120And they did a podcast where I guess they talked about his schedule, Biden's schedule.
00:05:55.860He started the day at 10, ended at 4-something.
00:08:48.500So whoever said this, don't take him everything he says literally, but take him seriously.
00:08:55.220So, what this means is, is that going to say precise, maybe accurate, 100% all of the time things that, you know, Greenland, 51st state, great example.
00:19:11.800All right. That's my shameless ask. But what I hear him doing is speaking positively, relentless positivity, optimism over everything he's involved with.
00:19:28.580I hear him guarding in some ways, now this may sound downright comical to some of you listening,
00:19:36.900but guarding his tongue in some ways to not speak negatively about things that he's very interested in.
00:19:48.540This has roots in something that he learned when he was much, much younger.
00:25:04.160But also as the president of the United States.
00:25:07.180And when I hear him talk, there's a light bulb moment for me that happened when I started digging into this years ago.
00:25:21.040There is a man by the name of Dr. Norman Vincent Peale.
00:25:28.500And I don't know if that name rings a bell to you or not, but if you're somebody that has done any sort of reading when it comes to business,
00:25:37.180or sales or anything that you would need to have really the edge on
00:25:54.180when it comes to having a positive frame of mind, positive mindset.
00:26:00.620But Dr. Norman Vincent Peale was, and still is for a lot of people,
00:26:06.240Somebody who very well-known, he's the guy who started, I think it was Guidepost magazine.
00:30:11.840that he was the pastor of a little church called Marble Collegiate Church in New York.
00:30:29.300What if I told you not only was he the pastor of that church,
00:30:35.000But Donald Trump, before he was president, even before he was a very successful businessman, he sat in the pew on Sunday mornings and heard Dr.
00:42:46.580And some of the stories that you won't hear anywhere else today on the Glenn Beck Program.
00:42:50.280The breaking news, one of the most extreme candidates ever to run for Senate.
00:42:57.280In fact, he might even be following that Obama playbook in some ways.
00:43:00.900uh there is uh there's news that ties his family his mother specifically to a terror group
00:43:10.360designated terror group our next guest will shine a light on that and break down the story you may
00:43:16.920hear here first on the glenbeck program justin barkley we're back with more this story after this
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00:44:36.120Now, this is an interesting story, and it is breaking news right now.
00:44:40.780um in fact from the midwesterner the midwesterner.news my good friend kyle olson joining us
00:44:50.460now who is the founder at the midwesterner um kyle has been i know you've been following this story
00:44:58.060um obviously a big story not just uh in michigan but nationwide it is the spotlight right now that
00:45:04.300But the socialist sort of, I call it the commie jihadi wing of the Democrat Party is hoping that they can hit a home run with here and throughout the country.0.57
00:45:17.880And it certainly will have massive impact if we don't heed the warnings here across this country.0.75
00:45:27.540Kyle, welcome in with the latest on this.
00:45:31.760Yeah, this U.S. Senate race in Michigan with Abdul Al-Sayed, it certainly is the convergence of the socialists and the Islamists who are trying to fundamentally transform America, which is what Barack Obama talked about many years ago.
00:45:51.060And the story that we published this morning is that Abdul Al-Sayed's birth mother, her name is Fatin Al-Khimi, she worked for the Islamic American Relief Agency back in the early 2000s, 1999 to the early 2000s.
00:46:13.360And around 2004, that Islamic American Relief Agency was accused of financing terrorism.
00:46:29.520Several employees of the agency were indicted.
00:46:33.560And basically what it boiled down to is that this agency was ostensibly funding things like health care and orphanages and disadvantaged people.
00:46:48.380But what the U.S. government at the time was was accusing the agency of was actually funding terrorism and specifically directly funding Osama bin Laden.
00:46:59.320this is interesting because we've heard we've heard abdul talk about his stepmother a little
00:47:09.660bit jacqueline who in fact we'll talk a little bit more uh about her and her parents um a little
00:47:16.880bit later on here let's put that to the side but largely we really have him we haven't heard him
00:47:22.320talk um about his birth mother sort of avoided this and there may be reasons for that as you
00:47:31.180point out and and the article points out at the midwestern.news but you you she has has some sort
00:47:38.840of ties here to this organization that is questionable at at very best so can you tell us
00:47:44.180The Islamic American Relief Agency, IARA, what do they say they do?
00:47:55.480Well, it's been shut down because several other people were indicted and the agency itself was indicted for financing terrorism.
00:48:04.640They claimed that they were sending money to the Middle East, to Iraq, Afghanistan, et cetera, for human needs, health care, basic necessities.
00:48:20.700That's what they claim. But back at that time, the U.S. government was saying, no, you're actually going and financing terrorism, financing Osama bin Laden, Hamas, the Taliban, etc.
00:48:34.980And so back to your point about Abdul's parents.
00:48:39.880So his father at the time was named Muhammad Muhammad.
00:48:44.720He came, he and his wife, then wife, came to the U.S. in the 1970s from Egypt.
00:48:53.100He ended up changing his name to Muhammad El-Sayed.
00:48:59.920And then when Abdul was very young, his parents got divorced.
00:49:03.600His father ended up coming to Michigan, got married to Jacqueline El-Sayed, as you said, and then her parents are the ones that we are seeing in this ad, which, you know, the media is eating up and is loving.
00:49:20.560And I think it's also interesting, too, to sort of look at that and say, why is he doing that?
00:49:26.120Why is he having the grandparents in the ad?
00:49:30.480Why is he making an ad that it looks like it's home movie footage, but in reality it was just recently shot?
00:49:39.300And I think it's because there's real concerns about where does Abdul El-Sayed's loyalties lie?
00:49:56.120Yeah, you bring up Egypt, and I'll let you maybe expand on that a little bit.
00:50:02.000He spent quite some time there, I would imagine, as a younger child in Egypt on summer vacations.
00:50:12.100Yes, and he frequently talks about this, about how he would go, he would spend summers in Egypt when he was growing up.
00:50:19.820And if you look at the timing of it, it's very interesting.
00:50:22.780One of the last times that we know he was in Egypt was shortly before the Arab Spring.
00:50:28.800If you remember the Arab Spring, that was in about 2015 when Muhammad Morrissey, who was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, became the president of Egypt.
00:50:40.740and um a document that has not gotten a lot of circulation or attention was a document of um
00:50:50.380that was signed it was sort of a profession of of allegiance or i don't know what you want to call
00:50:57.520it but it was about 40 um american muslims signed this document pledging support for morrissey his
00:51:06.860government, what he was trying to do. And one of those individuals that signed that document was
00:51:12.800Abdul El-Sayed, which I believe is very significant because at that time he was in
00:51:18.340college. He was not, he didn't have a career. He was not a politician. He was a college student.
00:51:26.420And so of all of the Muslims in America, why was he one of those 40? And I don't think that0.99
00:51:35.400abdul's connections to egypt the significance of being there shortly before the arab spring
00:51:41.500has really gotten enough scrutiny or i don't think any of the america the american media
00:51:48.720has gotten to the bottom of the exactly the timeline of all of that and why that happened
00:51:53.420i don't believe anyone's asked him about that um and he certainly has not really talked about it
00:51:58.620i can guarantee he won't be asked about that by the the likes of which of uh cnn or msd and c13
00:52:05.040any of them they're not going to ask these questions he's going to only do friendly
00:52:09.340interviews from here on out and you'll see more ads like the one you just described here's the
00:52:14.600one released with his grandparents who we got a note are uh of his step-grandparents now i'm i'm
00:52:21.340dispute that that they're very close with him i would imagine he's got a close relationship with
00:52:26.320him i don't i don't i don't dispute that i can't know exactly what that looks like um but
00:52:33.380you gotta know there's a reason why he's using this now here's the ad okay where did joel said
00:52:41.460come from here where his grandparents we helped raise him he became a doctor he always wanted to
00:52:49.340help people he got all those kids glasses eliminated medical death he buys us groceries
00:52:55.620every week he knows what things cost he learned his michigan values in our small town take it from
00:53:01.280us we love him and so will you too much i'm abdul al-sayed and i proved the heck out of this message
00:53:07.340language now this is a very effective ad i mean kyle let's let's be clear uh and they're gonna
00:53:16.740run as he just mentioned the heck out of it because what they have to do right now is form
00:53:22.320images in the minds of voters about who the guy actually is and they're trying to mainstream him
00:53:28.080as much as possible i've i've i have a feeling about him if they are successful in getting him
00:53:35.560across the the line it will mark a major shift not only in the democrat party because these these
00:53:41.820folks the the dsa and some of the radical uh you know i call it you know commie jihadi factions of
00:53:47.980the party will will claim victory and everything will shift their way and um i think in fact you
00:53:58.360know you might think this is crazy but you really don't have to go too far back to see the playbook
00:54:03.780this guy is running and there was a freshman senator from illinois back in 2005 that took
00:54:12.140office and just a couple of years later he was running for president and won i believe they might
00:54:18.400run this guy in 2028 if he wins in a state like michigan can pull it off there's a very real
00:54:26.220chance this guy could become president and that ought to alarm everyone that's it that's a very
00:54:33.840interesting point because just a few weeks ago before it was maybe a month before the primary
00:54:38.600the august primary he came out and said he's not going to run for president in 2028
00:54:43.780and i read that and i thought to myself what candidate who has never won a primary because
00:54:50.540he ran for governor in 2018 and lost and now he had at that point had not yet had his u.s senate
00:54:57.520primary um but what candidate comes out um after never winning an election before and says i'm not
00:55:05.460going to run for president i just thought the the hubris and the arrogance of that sort of statement
00:55:11.280but what it reveals is what you're getting at that clearly it's on his mind and clearly it's on
00:55:18.300other people's minds and um and so but i i believe this is if there's any seat that the dsa and
00:55:28.160progressives and communists want it's that u.s senate seat from michigan because that's the
00:55:34.320foothold that they need in the u.s senate and um because they've won several seats in the house
00:55:41.280there's a there's at least one more uh dsa member that is is going to go to washington from uh from
00:55:47.960michigan and um they they just know that if they can win that u.s senate seat that will embolden
00:55:55.140them and then that leads into 2028 and who knows what happens from there the very uh
00:56:02.540let's call him a clownish comical shrie tanidar who uh uh was you know never met an impeachment
00:56:12.700proceeding in like against the president uh the abolish ice guy he came under fire in his primary0.52
00:56:18.580and actually lost a democrat lost to as you mentioned someone even even more extreme than he
00:56:24.420and so there's at least one going as you mentioned they're going to be their their numbers are
00:56:29.780growing in the house um and speaking to to what could possibly happen as we see this play out we
00:56:36.020got primary day in florida right now and i know there's there's some challenges happening for
00:56:40.580democrats in florida as they've got some of these more progressive i don't know it's probably not
00:56:45.500even the right way to describe them it it is marxist uh commie jihadi wing of the of of the
00:56:53.560party folks on, on the ballot in Florida today, actually. Yeah. And this ultimately, I believe
00:57:00.580this is ultimately all leading to 2028 where there's going to be this clash and we're seeing
00:57:06.640it. If, if, if people follow, you know, the politics on X, you're seeing this where you've
00:57:13.200got Democrats are fighting with the DSA. Um, they're trying to purge the DSA from the part
00:57:19.040from their party. And the DSA, make no mistake about it, is using the Democratic Party as a
00:57:25.520vehicle to get to where they want to go. And the Democrats only have themselves to blame
00:57:31.560because they have played footsie with the far left for years. And in fact, I mean, even
00:57:39.980in the last six weeks, their narrative has been, we're a big tent. We want and welcome everyone.
00:57:49.040Well, they want the DSA in their party.
00:57:51.800They stand with people like Abdul and all the others that are saying, and Francesca Hong and all these other candidates that are running and have run.
00:58:07.320And so I think voters then are presented with the question, I mean, is this really, when you're voting for Democrats, all of these other people are coming along with them.
00:58:17.140And is that really what you want for America?
00:58:18.960the midwesterner the midwesterner.news kyle olson the founder there and of course i know you'll be
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00:58:36.260what they're putting out on this race particularly which i think is one of the
00:58:39.880the most critical that we're facing uh in this term for the reasons kyle just mentioned but kyle
00:58:45.740I know you're working on these stories and probably some that you can't even tell us about yet.
00:58:49.560But we'd love to talk to you in the near future when you have more to report.
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01:04:45.640back on the glenbeck program justin barkley and for glen today 888-727-BECK that's 888-727-BECK
01:05:02.180a big goings-on in fact uh over in the middle east yeah that the talk of the talks which trump
01:05:08.420said yesterday the president in the oval office and there's no talks and we got this straight
01:05:12.080open and it's ours now and all of that's made headlines but uh what's interesting there's some
01:05:18.260other talks that are happening as we speak and that jason buttrell joins us right now from the
01:05:22.600going back program and jason i was hoping maybe you could help walk us through some of the
01:05:28.200conversation around uh the meeting with uh jared kushner president's son-in-law um israeli prime
01:05:36.100minister netanyahu on gaza and i think he met with the folks in hamas as well there's a there's
01:05:42.740a whole other negotiation taking place right now it sounds like yeah i think uh kushner and the
01:05:48.840boys are um i think they're like the rest of the world really i think they're being uh cautiously
01:05:54.280optimistic for one uh there's actually something happening uh between you know in gaza with hamas
01:06:00.720And we haven't been able to say that for the longest time. Hamas was so embedded, and this goes to my point, I guess, on where this is going in the past, that it's going to be very, very hard to root them out completely.0.50
01:06:14.220Case in point, I went to the first year anniversary of the October 7th attack in Israel.
01:06:22.380And I remember I got a tour through, gosh, what was it?
01:06:26.000It was one of their intelligence services from the IDF.
01:06:28.320And they were showing just a bunch of stuff that they took out of Gaza.
01:06:31.200And some of that was actual documentation from the UN, from the UNRWA group, part of the UN, where they were providing actual physical residences for major Hamas officials.
01:06:47.500And, of course, if you talk to the UN, they'd be like, no, this is not happening.
01:06:51.540Well, the IDF actually has the documentation that would prove that this was going on.
01:06:56.320And I guess my point on all that is it's going to be very hard when it goes towards rooting Hamas out and getting rid of them fully.
01:09:12.700But, you know, down the road when they, you know, you get some of these guys and if he runs for president, all bets are off.
01:09:22.800But that's this is the what could a guy like that do?
01:09:27.380What damage could he do if he had access to that information?
01:09:30.860Yeah, well, I mean, so many of these different groups and I'm not saying he's guilty of anything.
01:09:35.980But I mean, just I mean, if anyone has ever gone for a high level clearance and I have back when I was in intelligence in the Marine Corps,0.72
01:09:42.700the stupidest stuff will discount you the the dumbest stuff um i don't know like i had a buddy0.95
01:09:48.820that he could he got a good clearance but he couldn't get the best clearance just because1.00
01:09:53.200he married an australian woman so they were like ah sorry buddy that that knocked shot and he's
01:09:57.600like wait a minute this is one of the five eyes this is she's just from australia she has a cool
01:10:02.140accent and they didn't care they locked him out of that i'm looking at through some of these and
01:10:06.560all these different ties or at least campaign contributions from at least 41 people who worked
01:10:13.020or worked for care or held leadership positions from there. Multiple high-ranking care figures,
01:10:20.680other organization endorsement ties, Americans for Justice in Palestine, M. Gage, Al-Awada,
01:10:27.740Arab America. It goes on and on. You could write a book literally just on this.
01:10:33.060When you see the stupid stuff that will knock you out of security clearance, these are actual legitimate ties that need to be looked into.0.98
01:10:40.360I would think that most people would, you know, going through his investigation would just say, OK, way too much denied.0.98
01:10:48.400If you would do that for a regular person, I don't know why you would not do this for a senator who's looking for an intelligence committee seat.
01:10:55.780Hopefully we don't even have to get to that point and voters will reject this idea outright in November.
01:11:01.080But, yeah, it is it is something from that meeting yesterday.
01:11:06.880Here's, I think, some reporting from Trey Yankst over on Fox.
01:11:10.240And I believe there's a little bit of of Kushner talking about what they discussed.
01:11:15.460Netanyahu recently called the Board of Peace roadmap unacceptable.
01:11:19.660Are you asking the prime minister to change his thinking?
01:11:22.920I think that was his perception of the plan as he got it.
01:11:26.240I think today we had a very, very good meeting.
01:11:29.300We were there for almost four hours with him and his team going through all the different details.
01:11:33.540I think there were some valid concerns that they raised that we were able to address.
01:11:37.640And we were able to go through some of the misunderstandings and misinformation that's been out about it as well.
01:11:43.280I mean, certain things like we're very committed to the fact that we have a plan to rebuild Gaza,
01:11:47.620but we will not allow Gaza to be rebuilt until the demilitarization occurs.0.77
01:11:52.380Nobody wants to put more money into a place that's gone on for so long
01:11:56.100until if it's just going to be taken over by terrorists or blown up again.
01:11:59.960We're also not going to restrict Israel's right to defend itself if there are any imminent threats.
01:12:04.140And so we had to clarify what that means.
01:12:05.860We could be seeing progress, you know, in as little as 30 days,
01:12:09.280hopefully on, you know, starting to take some of the weapons out
01:12:11.420and hopefully, you know, filling in some of the tunnels as well in the next 60 to 90 days as well.
01:12:16.420So progress could come quite soon, but we do need cooperation from both sides.
01:12:20.880And we're going to hopefully get through it.
01:12:22.960But we've made a lot of progress to get here.
01:12:25.140As you mentioned, some of that very positive, but I think we're all taking that wait-and-see approach to how that'll play out, Jason.
01:12:32.900The other thing he was asked about, too, was does Iran really want a legitimate deal?
01:12:39.180And I guess that really kind of depends on who we're talking about.
01:12:50.060And who really wants to see that happen?
01:12:52.240He had some interesting comments on this, too.
01:12:53.820understanding between the united states and iran expires where do negotiations stand with the
01:13:01.500iranian regime yeah so so right now president trump's been very focused on the economic pressure
01:13:06.640he really feels strongly about the blockade if you look at the iranian economy it's it's way
01:13:11.800worse off it was bad before the war is way worse off now but president trump's been very uh very
01:13:16.860very clear on why he took the actions he took which is he he believes that iran cannot have
01:13:21.940a nuclear weapon uh and if iran is willing to you know finish the deal that they've been discussing
01:13:26.660with us to uh give up uh their their ability to create a nuclear weapon uh then um then obviously
01:13:32.580he's willing to make a deal that could be great for the iranian people and and and he's uh it's
01:13:37.440something he would be uh be open to but right now um they're not showing any interest in uh in doing
01:13:43.080uh something that makes sense for us yeah interesting comments on both jason what do you
01:13:48.220Because this whole back and forth with Iran and where things stand, it's really tough, lots of nuance, and hard for anyone, really, to navigate.
01:14:19.860They know that we have a big, pivotal election coming up in November.0.96
01:14:25.520They think that if they escalate attacks, which per the Wall Street Journal and a few other reporting, is that now the IRGC is getting ready.
01:14:34.460They said they use the 60 days to really double down on their proxies in the region and their strategies on how to inflict pain on the U.S. military in the region.
01:14:45.020Not only the U.S. military, but Gulf allies.
01:14:47.240And they're all looking over the next few months. Now, coincidentally, which leads right into the midterms. But on the other hand, we are also playing this waiting game where the incredibly effective blockade, which is massively inflicting damage onto the Iranian economy.
01:15:08.620They're looking at the way that the Iranian regime pays their proxies, their IRGC, their regular military, government offices, and all that.
01:17:28.520Wow. All right, Jason Buttrell, thank you, as always. Fantastic coverage on this. And, man, thank you for putting that into perspective for us.
01:17:38.680You got it. Jason, obviously, with Glenn each and every day on the Glenn Beck program and all the behind scenes stuff and the insiders in the torch, which I highly recommend.
01:17:48.660I'm a founding member as well. I got my pen. I'm very excited about that. Anyway, we got to take a break. We will be right back with more.
01:17:56.960In fact, I think I can tie a massive move to conservatism, taking over, converting Democrats to coffee.
01:20:07.980I knew that the stuff that's floating a little lower, the overall numbers climb when every extra mug is consumed.
01:20:16.260And I put that in my mind together to make this point.0.95
01:20:20.020Remember that other experiment they gave those soy boy Democrats, they gave them a solid dose of testosterone overnight.0.99
01:20:26.780They started to see they were feeling a little bit more conservative each and every day, leaning toward Republican candidates, a little less attached to their own Democrat party.1.00
01:20:39.560Interesting, interesting thought that that quiet morning ritual, your black coffee.
01:20:44.500by the way you can't put all the junk in it the soy all that you got it you got to keep it you
01:20:49.520got to keep it black strong could in fact lead to a world where we see a little bit of a red shift
01:20:59.260and that's science folks that's that's i just don't blame me blame the science i say we
01:21:04.760we tip it back a little bit more i'm having mine right now in fact you you you drink your your
01:21:11.440choice if you like but if you want to maybe maybe maybe go in and pay for a cup of coffee for one
01:21:19.600of those folks with the green hair somewhere in the in the in the skinny jeans you know what i'm
01:21:26.580saying there's a little bit of a i don't know maybe a revolution that could take place a slow
01:21:33.360caffeinated red shift possibly for some folks who aren't quite locked in just yet but anyway
01:21:40.940Some science I thought we'd provide for you, one sip at a time.
01:21:46.820And some of the strangest news we get, we'll share it with you.
01:21:49.320But again, you've got to trust the science, folks.
01:27:48.840what happened to this person? Well, we're going to talk about that and maybe how we bring them
01:27:56.280back. New York Times bestselling author John Leake is here with us now to talk about the book. And
01:28:00.620John, I don't know. I really, you know, it's really interesting. I enjoy your work with Dr.
01:28:07.440Peter McCullough and enjoyed our conversations previously. But as I mentioned, I've see the
01:28:14.700same issues i see the problems you know we've got people that are completely at odds and i think to
01:28:21.280myself as i watch this this division and it's intentional you i think we can all conclude that
01:28:27.860and maybe i'm wrong i'll let you collect correct me on that but um as we see this this sort of
01:28:33.420thing taking place the one thing i know is it keeps us divided fighting each other and maybe
01:28:40.120that's the whole point we can't face the real enemy i think it's true i mean
01:28:46.760it all starts with fear where as i try and tease out in the trailer where there's always
01:28:55.340you may have noticed this there's always something coming that to be terrified of
01:29:02.260And because the media and social media are so potent and so spectacular and the ability to create imagery, we can't help but be responsive to the stimulus that, oh, my God, the world's ending once again.
01:29:20.860And what I began to notice is now it seems like the world is ending every two months.
01:29:28.000There's something. And so what I did with the book is, is there some method whereby we can examine the reality of these boogeymen?
01:29:39.500Is there really a monster under the bed or is this a figment of our imagination?
01:29:45.920Maybe, I remember when I was a little boy, I thought there was a monster under the bed that sounded like it was breathing.
01:29:53.300And then what I discovered is I'd left the record player on and it was just, but there was, there was no vinyl. It was just running on the, on the, the, the disc thing that the record sits on. So it was going, so there was a monster under the bed, but it was my record player still playing.
01:30:14.260So, like, what is the reality of these these monsters that are coming to get us?
01:30:20.140That's the first step. And then the purported solution that is invariably offered by the United States government in Washington and its cronies and industry and finance and the military and the pharmaceutical industries.
01:30:34.900is that solution? Is it really all that it's cracked up to be? And the perfect example of
01:30:43.700this was the COVID-19 vaccine. It was presented like some kind of savior of mankind. And then
01:30:50.780if you didn't get it, it was like not receiving communion. And I have that moment. I was on
01:30:58.700tucker carlson talking about this where there was a 20 euro silver coin issued by the vatican
01:31:05.760and it's as though a boy is receiving the vaccine and the way he would take holy communion
01:31:11.780it's just astonishing so that's what the book is about this this script um i think military guys
01:31:20.720might call these these scripts or this script rather you know a psychological operation
01:31:27.920and i i think that's that's a good that's a good description as well well you know mind viruses
01:31:36.780transmitted through fear when it comes to obviously the pandemic and the covet area that
01:31:45.000that's the thing that probably jumps out to me the most but we see people walking around like
01:31:51.720zombies that have trump derangement syndrome i'm not talking about people who honestly
01:31:56.520may have criticisms of the president and policies i'm talking about people that if he cured cancer
01:32:02.760there would be still yet utter disdain for them i mean this is this is i think clear um
01:32:11.180these are people that in my earlier book with peter mccullough the courage to face covet 19 i
01:32:17.660actually in the chapter on when when trump was in the early days march of 2020 when he was trying to
01:32:26.200be reasonable about things. You know, you realize people who are truly suffering from
01:32:34.380Trump derangement syndrome, that's how I characterize this. If Trump, like honest to
01:32:42.380goodness, presented the cure for cancer, you know, people suffering from this syndrome would rather
01:32:50.040for, they'd rather die than, you know, than actually acknowledge that this man had done
01:32:57.260something of value. So, yeah, you could say that Trump derangement syndrome is an iteration of this.
01:33:04.500It is a hyper cultivation of negative emotions that are focused on something
01:33:15.400that we are conditioned to believe is dangerous or destructive or immoral or whatever.
01:33:23.820And I characterize, so just to define it, a mind virus, I'm using the modern parlance. I think it
01:33:33.780was Elon Musk that started talking about the woke mind virus, and he's an influential man. So
01:33:40.240i adopted his his lexicon my my origin of the idea was a swiss psychiatrist named carl jung
01:33:49.420who wrote about what he called psychic epidemics it's an irrational idea that is not founded in
01:33:57.260any kind of objective evaluation of reality but it catches on and it it's fanned by by fear
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01:38:17.160barclay and for back today on the glenbeck program and john leake here with this mind viruses
01:38:30.580is the book uh john so my question is you've i think you've done a great job at describing what
01:38:37.080these things are and and what we're facing uh i guarantee each one of us has seen it up close
01:38:42.240and personal. The question I have is, is this a natural phenomenon, or is there something more
01:38:48.540insidious happening? Is this something that's being thrust upon us? Some of the mind viruses
01:38:58.040that are characterized are completely fabricated. It's a complex of industry and money, and let's
01:39:07.400Let's take SARS-CoV-2, the virus that is the causative agent of COVID-19 illness.
01:39:18.620The evidence is absolutely overwhelming in grant proposals, academic papers, pharmaceutical, Moderna, the Cambridge, Massachusetts vaccine manufacturer,
01:39:33.860ralph barrick at the university of north carolina i mean there's so much the paper trail showing that
01:39:40.840this virus was a chimeric coronavirus created in a lab i like to joke the paper trail is so big
01:39:49.040that it would take a new york times journalist not to see it um it's just enormous well this0.60
01:39:55.360whole thing was was created and how exactly it got out of the lab i don't know one would have
01:40:01.240to speculate, but it's an example of a terrifying artifact that's just created out of thin air.
01:40:11.020But once it's unleashed, then we do have this pandemic response. And here's a question for you.
01:40:19.960Do you remember how much money the U.S. federal government created out of thin air when it passed
01:40:25.840The CARES Act, the pandemic response statute in March of 2020, with a stroke of a keyboard, how much money did the U.S. government create?
01:40:38.120$2.3 trillion to disperse to whatever interests were involved in the pandemic response.
01:40:48.680Well, so, I mean, what better business model is there?
01:40:53.960Create a crisis, scare the hell out of everybody, and then just rake in the dough.
01:41:02.940And I know that sounds like too conspiratorial or something, but we just see this again and again.
01:41:10.420And I'll point out to a broader macro trend.
01:41:13.120And so I think it was in the year 2011 that Congress finally threw in the towel just completely on any any attempt at managing or restricting U.S. federal debt.
01:41:29.200It's just like we've gone through the debt ceiling so many times, you know, we might as well just give up.
01:41:35.760It's like the alcoholic that just says, you know something, I might as well just get an apartment with a bar in it.
01:41:45.280I'll just remain drunk for the rest of my life.
01:41:49.240Congress threw in the towel on any fiscal discipline.
01:41:52.360And the discovery is, and interestingly enough, our founding fathers like James Madison pointed this out,
01:41:59.620The state and those who, its cronies who have gotten cozy with the state, these people are always, these interests are always looking for a rationale, for a pretext for expanding their enterprise and the availability of state funding to fund it.
01:42:22.760And so I think that the pernicious lesson that has been learned in this country is that a crisis is a good thing.
01:42:31.040If you have a crisis, the state will generate trillions of dollars out of thin air and disperse it to those interests who have aligned themselves and purportedly to solve the crisis.
01:42:46.780but you know the crisis goes on and then as soon as it's finally kind of starts to run out of gas
01:42:53.100then you know then we get another one i gotta ask you john and i don't know if you have uh the time
01:43:00.780to to stay with us through the break but i i want to i want to get to the the fix here uh obviously
01:43:06.460the book is coming out um folks can find out more when they go to mind viruses john leak that's l-e-a-k-e
01:43:13.420dot com um but can you hang with us through the break to to get a little bit more into the
01:43:18.520the solution here all right let's let's do that because i find this conversation fascinating
01:43:23.500um we're we're very familiar with the problem the question is now now that we have this defined
01:43:29.780how do we fix it how do we wake people up how do we inoculate our kids i got two little girls
01:43:36.360growing up in this world i'm constantly thinking about what do i tell them how do i raise them in
01:43:42.460such a way that they don't fall victim to this the same game that's as old as the ages we'll uh
01:43:49.240we'll hit that when we come back john leake author of mind viruses america's irrational
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01:45:52.860barkley our guest we're right in the middle of this really great conversation uh john leak he's
01:45:58.380written the book mind viruses america's irrational obsessions we discussed what that my virus is
01:46:05.560and uh how it how it gets uh laid in in fact in some ways but i really john i really want to talk
01:46:11.680about solutions so how do we is it possible even you know to break our friends relatives maybe
01:46:19.880neighbors uh maybe there's some people listening the kids have fallen prey to this stuff how how
01:46:26.560do you? Is it possible to do that? Well, I would start by pointing out there is this handy little
01:46:34.060guidebook that's just on the market now about how to recognize when we are being manipulated,
01:46:46.760when fear is being invoked and spread in the population in order to elicit this fear-based response.
01:46:57.300You know, when we're afraid, and I have a whole chapter on fear and what it is,
01:47:02.200like as an anthropologist would describe it, it's an emotion that was very useful 200,000 years ago
01:47:09.960and we were living in small tribes on the belt
01:47:14.220and we're constantly being attacked by lions and hostile tribes
01:47:18.560and crops were failing and the game would just suddenly disappear
01:47:24.600Fear is an emotion that galvanizes an immediate fight-or-flight response.
01:47:32.360But the problem is, in our modern industrial setting,
01:47:37.540fear is an emotion that, yeah, if someone runs into your studio with a knife, it's a useful
01:47:43.760emotion. But if we're just constantly being made afraid by electronic representations on the
01:47:51.540telephone, I mean, excuse me, on the television, or in social media, then fear is being used as an
01:48:00.540instrument to manipulate. And so whenever we're presented with a frightful prospect,
01:48:07.000a frightful representation of reality, we need a method of evaluating, is this really
01:48:13.740all the boogeyman that is, is the boogeyman we're being presented with? Is it really as dangerous?
01:48:21.140Is it really such a mortal threat to all of us in the way it's being presented? And I submit,
01:48:26.720And I give many examples. Most of the time, this is being grossly exaggerated at best.
01:48:36.560It's it's we're not we're not in the mortal danger that we're being told that we are.
01:48:42.320So evaluate the terror, evaluate the terrifying specter.
01:48:48.400And then once you're able to do that, kind of take a deep breath, then you can evaluate the response that we're being told or the countermeasure to use how the COVID-19 vaccine was characterized.
01:49:07.900Is this countermeasure really the savior of mankind?
01:49:13.560And I give examples of how to evaluate this.
01:49:17.640One way that you know that a mind virus is being unleashed is that anybody who even questions the terrifying specter, is it real?
01:49:31.300Or anyone who questions the offered countermeasure is immediately censored.
01:49:38.760But when in the public forum, those who raise their hand and say, no, wait a minute, though, like some of what you're telling me doesn't seem very plausible, if that person is immediately taken out behind the woodshed, then you know that we're not being given the full truth of the matter.
01:49:59.340That guy is being censored, not because he's a dangerous spreader of disinformation, but because he's asking questions that challenge those who are who are afflicting us.
01:50:14.260And so, you know, that's that's just one example that I that I offer in the book.
01:50:19.000But I would say I know this is self-serving. I mean, I walk the reader through this in a very practical way, and that was the reason why I wrote the book.
01:50:29.340I want to make a contribution to restoring mental health and constitutionally sound principles to the republic.
01:50:42.120There is a bit of just critical thinking skills just overall that is missing in so many of people today for whatever reason.
01:50:55.080And one of them might be, and I just throw this out there, we discussed this yesterday, and then I learned about your books.
01:51:01.480It's just, I have no doubt with perfect timing here, but we were discussing, I think there's so much information coming at us at such a speed these days,
01:51:13.300more than we were ever meant to take in, that one of the things that we do is we just assume narratives because it's easier.
01:51:21.420It's kind of our brain's way of dealing with it, and we pick the one that feels best and closest to what we already believe, and then when we're kind of locked into that, there is no questioning any of these things, and I think that's the most dangerous thing we could do.
01:51:37.500I kind of describe how I, when I'll see a piece of news or something that somebody sends me comment, I'll take a look at it, examine it, put it up on the shelf, and say, okay, I'll come back to that later if I need it, but I don't automatically say, yeah, that's it.
01:51:50.760that's probably it because that's that's going to lead down a very dangerous path and as you
01:51:56.200mentioned we've been here before we know what this looks like we just went through it when so many of
01:52:01.100us were canceled and and told we were the enemy of the state for even asking questions precisely and
01:52:09.860it's it's a an element of the story that i try to analyze you know let's say that something
01:52:19.340terrifying happens like a bridge collapses uh over the st lawrence waterway or the hudson river
01:52:27.920and and it's in the news oh that you know the bridge collapsed and this is terrifying and
01:52:33.100there's imagery of cars floating you know down the hudson and um a drowned woman being pulled out of
01:52:40.160out of a car so oh my god you know do is there something wrong with the bridges of you know do
01:52:48.800do I have to worry about a bridge collapsing the next time I drive over the river?
01:53:06.280But what's left out of the reporting is, you know,
01:53:10.400there are Lord knows how many millions of bridges in this country
01:53:14.480and Lord knows how many millions of people drive across them every day.
01:53:18.800that's not in the reporting. So you can take anything, whether it be in nature or a human
01:53:29.880disaster, a human-caused disaster, and you can focus people's minds on it with potent imagery,
01:53:39.060And you can you can blow that up into the perception that this is a systemic threat.
01:53:48.540And let's focus on that word systemic. So, you know, we get into the presidency of Barack Obama and it's initially celebrated as the first African-American president.
01:53:59.460But you may recall, shortly thereafter, we are suddenly presented in this country with what we're told is the specter of systemic racism.
01:54:11.380And you think, well, no, wait a minute. I mean, is that true?
01:54:16.180I mean, we've come a long way since the Jim Crow South.
01:54:20.700I mean, as evidenced by the fact that a majority are close to a popular majority.
01:54:27.440I don't remember if he won by popular electoral. We just elected a guy whose daddy was a black man.0.89
01:54:34.880Like, we're not that racist. Like, this is being exaggerated.
01:54:39.760And the discovery is, is this proposition out of Marxist critical theory that we're a systemically racist country.
01:54:48.720The news media and the various interests that are flogging this idea, they knew that not to be true.
01:54:55.720And they knew it not to be a very plausible, persuasive representation of the reality.
01:55:04.620They focused on these specific incidents in which a white police officer or security guard
01:55:11.200would get into a scuffle with a young black guy.
01:55:16.760And then that drama was then amplified and blown up and broadcast across all of the airwaves
01:55:24.480a gazillion times, and then that psychological drama is then used to introduce the idea,
01:55:34.800well, what you're seeing, this white cop beating up a black guy or restraining a black guy0.96
01:55:41.080or whatever it was, that is representative of the entire diseased body politic of this0.97
01:55:50.300entire nation, and therefore, as we saw in June of 2020, the entire nation deserves to be severely0.70
01:56:01.100punished for this. But when you look at this whole drama and the scapegoating and all of this
01:56:08.620archaic nonsense that we were presented with, none of it's true. There's not a single element
01:56:15.880of this that is real um but you know to make that point john i'm i'm i'm reminded of all of the
01:56:26.020little things recently we've had to be very afraid of and where did they go the hantavirus where was
01:56:31.460that thing what what about that came and went really quickly uh i i noticed we got another
01:56:37.340case here in michigan a swine flu that i heard the other day okay we gotta be we gotta be afraid
01:56:41.620of this and the explosive lettuce that we're uh that we've been eating here recently there's
01:56:46.780always one thing after the other to your point and that's why i think uh inoculate yourself
01:56:53.840against it i recommend it uh when does the book uh when does this thing come out when can folks
01:57:00.280get it mind viruses america's irrational obsessions john leek the author well it's it's already out
01:57:07.640It's been out for a few weeks. I would strongly recommend and approve of your audience going to Amazon and buying buying a copy of the book.
01:57:21.620This is the fruit of 30 years of I studied political philosophy and history, and this is kind of the fruits of my research.
01:57:30.500But it's a fast-paced narrative. It's narrative-driven. I tell the story of the United States of America primarily focusing on the 21st century, but I have long forays back into the witch hysteria of Europe in the 16th century.
01:57:52.080I have a long historical underpinning, but never dry and academic.
01:58:01.100It's a narrative-driven book, and I think that people will get a lot out of it,
01:58:06.680and they will find it a very entertaining read as well.
01:58:10.700So, Amazon.com, Mind Viruses, America's Irrational Obsessions.
01:58:17.060Fantastic. Thank you for the conversation,
01:58:19.480and I look forward to maybe talking a little bit more in depth down the road.