The Glenn Beck Program - The Great 'Fire' Wall of China ｜ Guests： Ben Howe, Jason Buttrill, & Kevin Ryan

00:00:00.000 There is so much to go over today.

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00:01:08.180 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:10.680 That and the real story that is going on of people actually under siege, people who are standing up for their own freedom and pleading, please America, hear us.

00:01:26.340 And we're not.

00:01:27.840 The truth behind what's happening in Hong Kong in one minute.

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00:03:38.900 I remember it was the summer of 1989.

00:03:43.860 And I remember seeing something happen in China.

00:03:47.320 And this was this was a magical five years for freedom.

00:03:55.240 Communism was falling apart.

00:03:57.540 Berlin Wall was coming down.

00:04:00.040 And people in China, students, made a statue of liberty in Tiananmen Square.

00:04:07.360 They were standing up for freedom and the rights of all men.

00:04:12.740 It was amazing.

00:04:15.280 And then everything turned June 3rd, 1989.

00:04:20.300 200,000 soldiers crawled through the streets of Beijing, aiming their Type 56 assault rifles at students and protesters.

00:04:32.220 They were charged with forcibly ending a counter-revolutionary riot.

00:04:37.740 It was muggy that day.

00:04:40.720 A raving heat overtook the air.

00:04:44.520 Riots usually happen in the summertime.

00:04:46.940 The heat does something to us, I think.

00:04:49.760 The protesters who had been protesting for seven weeks tried everything to stop the infantry soldiers from the People's Liberation Army.

00:04:57.540 They sang traditional folk songs.

00:05:00.100 They begged.

00:05:01.000 They pled.

00:05:04.200 A Type 56 AR fires 650 rounds per minute, one bullet right after another.

00:05:10.400 Many of the soldiers' rifles were loaded with expanding bullets.

00:05:14.240 These are the kinds that are banned even in the use of warfare by the Hague.

00:05:19.600 But the soldiers loaded their guns with those bullets and opened fire on the group of students and protesters.

00:05:28.660 By the end of it, 200 civilians had died.

00:05:33.640 And that's the number according to the Chinese government.

00:05:37.500 The truth is more devastating.

00:05:40.300 Estimates run to over 10,000 people died.

00:05:45.820 You can do that in places like China.

00:05:49.600 Well, that was the summer of 1989, and here we are in the summer of 2019, just a little over 30 years ago.

00:05:59.000 And in China, the memory of the massacre has been roundly suppressed.

00:06:04.980 You know, we still don't know the fate or even the name of the guy who stood in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square.

00:06:12.040 We don't know what happened to many of those people.

00:06:15.540 The facts have been suppressed.

00:06:17.120 The government has never apologized.

00:06:18.740 Officially, footage and audio and photographs of the massacre don't even exist.

00:06:25.760 And don't think it can't happen again.

00:06:27.660 Don't assume technology will stop a human problem.

00:06:32.480 Looked at what happened in Iran, for one.

00:06:35.000 The Tiananmen Massacre doesn't appear in search results.

00:06:40.400 Did you know that?

00:06:41.440 Look it up.

00:06:42.640 Tiananmen Massacre.

00:06:43.680 You can search for it.

00:06:45.760 But if you're anywhere in China, it's part of what's called China's Great Firewall.

00:06:54.100 Prolific government censorship.

00:06:57.200 Chinese children don't read about it in their textbooks at all.

00:07:00.180 Even the day after the attacks, June 4th, there was no mention of the attacks on the propaganda-driven news.

00:07:08.700 The only hint that something terrible that had happened was that the news anchors were all dressed in black in solidarity with the slain protesters.

00:07:18.780 Some of those anchors were fired immediately, one of them banned from ever reporting the news ever again in China.

00:07:27.900 What we're seeing now in Hong Kong is history.

00:07:33.900 But it will most likely be a history that only the West will remember, if we even pay attention.

00:07:43.140 Hong Kong is home to 7 million residents, with 30 million visitors and tourists every single year.

00:07:50.260 Yesterday, riot police stormed the Hong Kong International Airport in an effort to break up the protests that have raged through the city for weeks.

00:08:00.840 The Chinese government decried the protesters and their actions as acts of terrorism.

00:08:06.220 Like with Tiananmen, many of the protesters weren't even trying to overthrow the government.

00:08:14.560 At first, they were just protesting the extradition bill that would require a Hong Kong resident,

00:08:20.380 who doesn't pay taxes to the government in Beijing, to serve time in and on mainland China.

00:08:29.040 Crackdowns by Hong Kong police made things only worse.

00:08:32.380 The U.S. State Department said that the U.S. is, quote,

00:08:36.200 staunch in our support for freedom of expression and freedom of peaceful assembly in Hong Kong, end quote.

00:08:44.100 But that's about as strong as we're going to get.

00:08:48.160 So far, the protesters have proven adept at broadcasting the truth.

00:08:53.220 But is anybody listening?

00:08:56.380 Because as we've seen before, they're going to need far more than that.

00:09:00.280 And who knows how much worse things really are?

00:09:04.000 Who knows what information is being suppressed by the state-owned government?

00:09:10.420 Beijing has ratcheted up the inflammatory rhetoric.

00:09:14.140 China media has even said the Hong Kong protesters are asking for self-destruction.

00:09:19.280 According to the New York Times, in recent days, China has more aggressively stirred up nationalist and anti-Western sentiment using state and social media.

00:09:30.820 It has manipulated the context of images and videos to undermine the protesters.

00:09:36.980 Chinese officials have begun branding the demonstrations as a prelude to terrorism, end quote.

00:09:43.640 President Trump has remained calm after announcing on Twitter that the Chinese government is moving troops to the border with Hong Kong.

00:09:52.800 He wrote, quote, everyone should remain calm and safe.

00:09:58.360 Beijing described the anti-government protest as deranged acts.

00:10:02.900 These people will be red-flagged at best, that they have spouts of terrorism, and they added that any further violence will be severely punished, without leniency and without mercy.

00:10:19.980 And a government like China means that.

00:10:23.800 And if we're not careful, the Chinese government will attack its own people and we won't notice.

00:10:32.900 How are the Google results on China today?

00:10:37.720 How about Facebook, these companies that are more than willing to help China in their government suppression of people?

00:10:49.640 The morning after Tiananmen Square, the massacre, PLA troops tore down the statue of the goddess of democracy, which had become a symbol of the protesters' hope.

00:11:01.060 But we've seen through the propaganda.

00:11:05.980 We all remember that one photo of the one man standing in front of the row of tanks ready to die, if that's what it took.

00:11:14.040 Novelist Pico Lyre said, quote,

00:11:22.500 The heroes of the tank picture are two, the unknown figure in front of the juggernaut and the driver who rose to the moral challenge by refusing to mow down his compatriot, end quote.

00:11:35.520 Last week, the head of the central government's office in Hong Kong warned members that it is now a, quote,

00:11:58.240 Life or death fight for the very future of Hong Kong.

00:12:01.380 There is no room for retreat, end quote.

00:12:06.340 There's a great song by Charles Wright in the Watts, 103rd Street Rhythm Band.

00:12:11.760 It's about our collective humanity.

00:12:13.680 If all men were truly brothers, why then do we hurt one another?

00:12:19.800 Love and peace from ocean to ocean.

00:12:22.900 Someone please second my emotion.

00:12:28.440 We may not know what to do about it as individuals, but let's not act like this isn't happening.

00:12:33.500 Who is the unknown rebel?

00:12:36.560 Who will be the man who stands out in front of a bank, grocery stores in each hand, groceries in each hand?

00:12:45.720 We don't know who's going to do that this time.

00:12:48.660 We've yet to find out.

00:12:50.480 But we do know what's at stake, and it's at stake all around the world.

00:12:56.120 Freedom.

00:12:57.400 Freedom from tyranny.

00:13:00.040 Real, true democracy, not mob rule.

00:13:03.500 There's a reason the protesters have been waving American flags through the air.

00:13:10.320 In Hong Kong, they're fighting for their freedom of assembly, their freedom of speech, their freedom of press.

00:13:19.680 They're fighting for the same things that are all outlined in our First Amendment.

00:13:25.280 Something unique to the United States of America.

00:13:28.140 And if you have any doubts about how great our true rights are, how great our founders were, how great our Constitution is,

00:13:40.140 Listen to what happened yesterday in Hong Kong.

00:13:47.640 Chinese protesters, holding American flags, and singing this song.

00:13:55.460 And bright stars through the perilous fight, all the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming.

00:14:08.460 And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.

00:14:23.360 Oh, say does the star-spangled banner yet wave, O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

00:14:43.980 We may not be able to help them as individuals, but we should at least recognize what they're fighting for.

00:14:57.260 What they're fighting for is something that most of us just take for granted.

00:15:03.420 Our thoughts and prayers are with those in Hong Kong and all of those anywhere on Earth that recognize the basic human rights and are willing to stand, not only die for, but they've found something to live for.

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00:15:45.520 It is the difference between, I think it's 24 steps, 24 steps if you count them, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, will take you across a room.

00:15:57.500 But it's 24 or 30 steps that if you double each step, it will take you not across the room, but will actually take you to the moon.

00:16:10.560 That's how compounding Moore's Law actually works.

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00:20:27.900 I'm very well, Glenn.

00:20:29.200 Luckily, there's nothing going on in the world that's leading to any chaos.

00:20:33.580 No.

00:20:33.760 So I'm very calm.

00:20:34.740 Everything's going fine.

00:20:35.740 Yeah.

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00:20:37.320 Everything is, everything is okay.

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00:20:46.000 It looks like there is some good news, though, with the tariffs and such seemingly at least

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00:20:56.960 So hopefully that continues.

00:20:59.260 But, you know, the stuff in Hong Kong is pretty serious.

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00:23:51.700 We were just talking about China.

00:23:53.520 Let me play this audio from MSNBC, an analyst that is liking now Trump supporters to members of a terrorist organization.

00:24:00.760 Listen to this.

00:24:01.520 You're right.

00:24:03.640 Attacking his followers is going to be counterproductive.

00:24:07.780 He demands that loyalty, and they are loyal.

00:24:10.460 So if you call Trump followers racist and mass, they simply coalesce around each other and become even more defensive and protective of the leader, just as they would in, say, a terrorist organization to compare to the radicalization.

00:24:24.420 Unbelievable.

00:24:25.620 Unbelievable.

00:24:26.500 Or exactly what happened with the Democrats with Barack Obama or what happens with everyone.

00:24:33.960 That is human nature, human nature, just like terrorists.

00:24:39.000 So you're saying, yeah, this is a terrorist.

00:24:41.740 You know, what's what's really, truly amazing to me is MSNBC can also say this on the same day.

00:24:48.780 Listen to listen to this.

00:24:51.020 What a guest advises on how to win for how to beat Trump.

00:24:58.720 You see, don't communicate it to them.

00:25:00.640 You beat them.

00:25:01.860 You beat them.

00:25:02.660 They are not a majority of this country.

00:25:04.920 The majority of white people in this country are not a majority of the country.

00:25:08.520 And all the people who are not fooled by this need to come together, go to the polls, go to the protests, do whatever you have to do.

00:25:15.700 You do not negotiate with these people.

00:25:18.760 You destroy them.

00:25:19.520 And by the way, the black man said beat them, meaning in a poll, in an election.

00:25:23.980 Don't come for the black man.

00:25:25.320 He said beat them.

00:25:26.500 Oh, stop it.

00:25:28.580 Oh, stop it.

00:25:29.400 They're so adorable.

00:25:30.040 But go ahead and go after the white woman who said that these were targeted for election.

00:25:34.500 Yeah.

00:25:34.900 I mean, it's it's unbelievable.

00:25:37.360 It's unbelievable.

00:25:38.460 So this is the same kind of propaganda, however, that you're seeing happen with China.

00:25:43.820 It's the same thing.

00:25:44.940 This is exactly what they're saying about the protesters in Hong Kong.

00:25:49.960 They're terrorists.

00:25:50.860 Yeah.

00:25:51.140 They're terrorists.

00:25:52.160 Got to stop them.

00:25:52.900 Got to stop them.

00:25:53.680 I trying to destroy everything.

00:25:55.640 It's been it's been amazing to watch because what was it?

00:25:58.480 Has it been?

00:25:59.640 I think 16 weekends of protests.

00:26:01.840 And on the first one, they had that rally and they had the pictures of how they took over Hong Kong.

00:26:06.100 Yeah.

00:26:06.680 They said it.

00:26:07.460 I think they said it was a million or two million.

00:26:09.540 It looked like 10 million or 20 million.

00:26:11.360 It looked like everybody in Asia was there.

00:26:15.360 And then so that made such an impression that they put that bill, that extradition to Beijing bill on hold.

00:26:22.520 That still didn't stop them because it wasn't enough.

00:26:25.560 They wanted to ensure their freedom.

00:26:27.000 It's amazing to see these people go out week after week after week and continue to do these peaceful demonstrations.

00:26:34.800 They don't take freedom for granted.

00:26:36.500 Yeah.

00:26:36.640 They know this is the end.

00:26:38.020 Have you noticed that have you noticed that when you watch the video, have you seen all the green laser pointers?

00:26:45.200 Yeah.

00:26:45.440 Yeah.

00:26:45.820 OK.

00:26:46.380 You know what that's for?

00:26:47.580 No.

00:26:48.000 That's to confuse the facial recognition of China.

00:26:51.100 Oh, wow.

00:26:51.820 So they're they're trying to put it.

00:26:54.400 You know, when you ever see the cops coming, they're putting laser pointers all over green laser pointers and just trying to confuse the cameras on the cops.

00:27:03.660 Confuse the cameras up above so you can't facially recognize anybody.

00:27:08.260 These guys are all dead and they know this is the last chance.

00:27:12.760 If China comes in and really controls Hong Kong the way they're going to, they're done.

00:27:21.940 They're in a box and this is their last chance.

00:27:25.560 And there's military forces massing at the border.

00:27:28.660 Oh, yeah.

00:27:29.140 It's I mean, they're getting ready to do it.

00:27:30.880 Yeah.

00:27:31.020 And I just want to exercise this, Pat, the exercises, the China because China doesn't have any other room for exercises at home.

00:27:38.900 Well, they're right across the water there.

00:27:41.600 Oh, OK.

00:27:42.000 But they don't have any other room in the country to be able to set up a large military exercise other than right there by the large city of Hong Kong.

00:27:50.340 There's just no other space.

00:27:51.520 There's a lot of like America's running out of space.

00:27:54.520 Running out of space.

00:27:55.420 Yeah.

00:27:55.700 Running out of space.

00:27:56.620 You know, it's just it's heartbreaking because are we going to are we going to ignore them?

00:28:00.960 It looks like it.

00:28:01.920 We ignored the Kurds.

00:28:03.340 In fact, you remember the extreme song more than Kurds.

00:28:06.440 No, it's more than words.

00:28:07.440 To give people to care.

00:28:09.520 So let me let me let me ignore the Iranians.

00:28:12.380 We ignored the Kurds.

00:28:13.520 We're going to ignore Hong Kong.

00:28:14.980 If you're president of the United States right now, what do you do?

00:28:18.700 I I use diplomatic sources to pressure them behind the scenes.

00:28:26.280 I come out and I and maybe put on trade sanctions and get a coalition of trade partners together to, you know, talk about trade sanctions.

00:28:36.080 Really?

00:28:36.700 You see, the Dow is down.

00:28:38.200 Yeah, I saw 400 points today.

00:28:39.880 It was up yesterday about 400 points because we relieved the trade sanctions.

00:28:45.080 See, this is this is the problem.

00:28:46.480 We already have trade sanctions going and it's killing our economy.

00:28:52.320 And so he pulls them off yesterday, which is a sign of weakness and really can be interpreted as non support.

00:29:02.680 I don't know if you saw the the stories that were out, you know, from Hong Kong.

00:29:08.180 I mean, sorry, from China mainly and from the Chinese point of view is that Trump caved.

00:29:13.480 And he has no he has no way of affecting China at all.

00:29:21.120 China is now the big dog and they can do whatever they want in Hong Kong.

00:29:25.600 Well, that's because he saw the economy was starting to come apart and you have to remove some of those trade sanctions.

00:29:32.420 So he said up until Christmas, what is he going to do?

00:29:36.540 You're going to put more trade sanctions on.

00:29:38.760 You'll flush the economy.

00:29:41.220 Then who do we help?

00:29:42.880 Then who do we help?

00:29:44.940 I mean, it's so you just leave them to know.

00:29:47.300 I mean, this is one of those moral things where you because of the situation we're in.

00:29:53.840 Do you remember and we talked about this, John F. Kennedy talked about FDR talked about this, that there's going to come a time when Social Security happens and there's no money in the lockbox and there won't be any good options left because we won't have any money.

00:30:12.160 And so everything that we do will be a bad choice.

00:30:15.880 Everything will hurt.

00:30:16.940 Well, we're there now with our deficit and everything else.

00:30:21.660 Everything that we want to do is going to is going to hurt us.

00:30:25.780 We're now in that situation with Iran, almost with Iran.

00:30:31.000 We're definitely there with North Korea.

00:30:33.940 We're almost there with Russia.

00:30:36.360 And we are there with China.

00:30:39.380 China is ready.

00:30:40.800 I mean, China has been playing the West.

00:30:45.280 And we have not seen it come.

00:30:49.500 We have just not seen it coming.

00:30:51.360 We have dismissed them over and over again as posers, as people who can only steal technology.

00:30:58.640 That was true in 2008.

00:31:01.520 That is not true in 2019.

00:31:04.640 They have changed and they they have done it expertly with a plan.

00:31:11.860 You know, that's the one thing about central planning.

00:31:14.200 It never works with the economy, but it certainly does with strategy on how to take over other countries and take over the world.

00:31:22.420 They have done it with their tech partners.

00:31:25.620 They've come in and they've stole everything.

00:31:27.660 Well, they've also done it with the hybrid of capitalism so that they could get 400 million of their own people out of poverty.

00:31:33.420 Correct.

00:31:33.800 And they have their own market now.

00:31:35.160 Correct.

00:31:35.440 So now we are looking at China.

00:31:38.940 Just look at 5G.

00:31:40.500 We're looking at China controlling all of the information around the world and being able to control people.

00:31:47.740 What they're really protesting about in Hong Kong is they're free.

00:31:52.380 They don't want any of the surveillance crap.

00:31:56.620 They don't want to.

00:31:57.500 They don't want to be shipped off to a concentration camp.

00:31:59.900 That's the extradition thing.

00:32:02.240 That means if I protest, I go to a concentration camp in China.

00:32:06.960 I don't think so.

00:32:09.120 We're not going to support them because I don't think we have any bullets in our gun.

00:32:14.520 Well, the best hope for them, I think, is what you guys just talked about, which is a big part of this capitalist revolution with China is Hong Kong, right?

00:32:23.380 Like a big part of this economic benefit, a huge part of which is why they've left them alone right this long.

00:32:29.400 So maybe and this is why I think if you're if you're a protester and you want freedom, you've got to be tempted at least to be sitting there.

00:32:37.820 Let's just say you're in your you're in your high rise.

00:32:39.980 You're in Hong Kong and you're seeing all these protests going on.

00:32:42.140 And there's got to be a temptation to say, look, I want freedom as much as you do.

00:32:45.480 But don't antagonize these guys.

00:32:47.380 They've been leaving us alone for a long time.

00:32:49.280 And yes, it's going in the wrong direction.

00:32:51.160 But if we don't if we continue to go and protest in the hundreds of thousands in the streets, eventually China is just going to say, screw it.

00:33:00.480 We're taking the whole thing over again.

00:33:01.980 No more special rules for you guys.

00:33:03.980 And it's going to be over.

00:33:05.380 They will.

00:33:06.120 They will eventually iron fist this thing unless Hong Kong wins their own separation.

00:33:11.280 And they will the odds of that do of that happening without help from someone like us is almost zero zero.

00:33:17.500 Basically, here's here's what we're watching is a repeat of history.

00:33:23.120 And I think it's the repeat of Poland.

00:33:28.120 Poland thought that everybody would stand up for him and the world said, we'll stand up for you.

00:33:34.200 Don't worry.

00:33:34.960 He's not going to take it.

00:33:36.040 He marched in Hitler.

00:33:38.160 He took Poland and the West did nothing.

00:33:41.460 They did nothing about it because they thought at the time they didn't have any bullets in their gun.

00:33:47.480 And they didn't.

00:33:48.880 The United States wasn't going to go in.

00:33:51.080 We weren't going to join them.

00:33:52.800 Dunkirk had just happened.

00:33:54.120 England was the people behind the Nazi Iron Curtain in Poland.

00:34:02.340 They didn't have any idea if England even still stood.

00:34:06.920 The last thing they had heard about England was the Germans had them at Dunkirk, had them surrounded and ready to just slaughter and chop off England's head.

00:34:17.820 Then the lights went out and they didn't know they thought England had fallen, too, because nobody was coming to rescue them.

00:34:27.360 Nobody was doing anything.

00:34:28.680 I mean, we're seeing the same thing.

00:34:32.400 And the poor people in China, because of people like Google, Google is the I think they are one of the most evil companies in history.

00:34:41.640 Their slogan is don't be evil.

00:34:43.040 No, they changed that slogan.

00:34:44.400 Well, yeah, but they remember it, which is really weird, isn't it?

00:34:47.600 It's weird.

00:34:48.060 It is weird.

00:34:49.220 Yeah.

00:34:49.500 So they are so damn evil.

00:34:52.680 They are working with the Chinese.

00:34:55.380 And the reason why they're doing it is not just because of the market.

00:35:00.240 I don't think that that Google cares as much as we think it does about having China as a market for their search engine.

00:35:10.800 What they care about is a eye.

00:35:14.680 And if they can have another billion people in that system teaching a eye on how the human brain works, they will have access to more people than anyone else in the world.

00:35:30.060 And that's that's what they're after.

00:35:33.280 China and Google are both after the same thing.

00:35:36.440 And Google thinks if we can get all the Chinese people and the Western world, we'll have it because China only has China.

00:35:45.020 They don't have the rest of the world.

00:35:47.640 Google wants both of them.

00:35:50.280 And this is just a race for AI.

00:35:52.940 It is so unbelievably immoral because Google is working and helping China, helping them round up people.

00:36:03.680 So if you're Trump, what do you do about this situation?

00:36:06.180 You just leave them hang?

00:36:06.900 The first thing I do is today I take all I take all trade sanctions away, all trade, take them off, take them off.

00:36:17.860 And that's not just on China, Europe, everybody done.

00:36:21.060 I'm done with the trade war because he has to win this election.

00:36:25.340 And if the economy goes to hell, he doesn't win.

00:36:28.560 What was it?

00:36:31.000 Bank of America came out and said there's now a one in three chance that we're in a recession in the next year, in the next year.

00:36:37.400 And if that happens, I mean, you know, right.

00:36:39.680 It's almost impossible for a president to win in that scenario.

00:36:42.800 You don't think listen to people like Bill Maher.

00:36:45.700 And there was some other person in the media that just joined him this week that said, I'm hoping I'm hoping for an economic breakdown.

00:36:53.180 If you don't think that China, Russia, whoever else is hoping for an economic breakdown, if you don't think that there are people at the highest levels who think they are beyond a George Soros, you think he's going to be hurt by a breakdown?

00:37:09.500 No, he'll capitalize on a breakdown.

00:37:12.160 If you don't think there are people that will do everything they can for an economic breakdown, you're fooling yourself.

00:37:18.600 Donald Trump must do everything he can.

00:37:22.560 And the first thing he has to do is remove the trade barriers.

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00:42:09.100 There is a new poll out on who the Democrats want to be their candidate.

00:42:18.120 And I, for one, could not be more surprised.

00:42:23.880 Well, I mean, I could.

00:42:25.220 It could be better.

00:42:26.700 But this is not what I expected at all.

00:42:33.260 What does it mean?

00:42:35.500 We'll give you the latest poll in one minute.

00:42:38.020 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:42:44.040 Okay, despite what the movies say, we're probably not going to wind up living in an apocalyptic landscape

00:42:49.640 dotted by roving zombies and warlords in Land Rovers.

00:42:53.760 I'm just saying, probably not, Glenn.

00:42:56.380 I mean, do you have any evidence on that?

00:42:59.360 I mean, you kind of seem to be throwing that one out there like it's true.

00:43:03.120 Well, I'm saying probably.

00:43:04.980 I mean, it does exist.

00:43:06.320 I mean, that, you know, the chance is out there.

00:43:09.360 No more than 75% chance, though.

00:43:11.140 Correct.

00:43:11.520 Okay.

00:43:12.040 Correct.

00:43:13.540 You know, I'm probably not going to, you know, have to trade stew for food, even though I would.

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00:43:24.460 Okay.

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00:44:35.120 So there is a new pullout today that shocks me.

00:45:02.620 Yeah, it's a little shocking.

00:45:07.480 You know, she's been making a run for quite a bit here.

00:45:10.000 It's a new Economist YouGov poll that's out today.

00:45:13.440 Has in the Democratic primary, Joe Biden at 21%.

00:45:17.880 One point behind, Elizabeth Warren at 20.

00:45:22.480 And then Bernie Sanders at 16.

00:45:24.060 Kamala Harris at 8.

00:45:24.980 Buttigieg and O'Rourke at 5.

00:45:26.760 Which is actually a pretty good pull for Beto.

00:45:30.520 Hitting 5 is like...

00:45:31.660 Well, he did change his own tire.

00:45:32.940 He did.

00:45:33.440 I think that's probably...

00:45:34.240 It probably gave him at least two points there.

00:45:35.620 Yeah.

00:45:35.900 Because he was so convincing doing it.

00:45:38.120 He just...

00:45:38.880 This guy's on his hands and knees just fixing cars all the time.

00:45:41.500 Yeah.

00:45:41.640 That's what he does.

00:45:42.200 Right.

00:45:42.540 That's his...

00:45:43.100 Right.

00:45:43.360 I mean, that's his normal day.

00:45:44.620 You know, you're usually out with somebody who is filming you change a tire to.

00:45:48.660 What are you doing, Beto?

00:45:50.340 I'm just changing a tire.

00:45:51.940 That's...

00:45:52.660 It's so every man.

00:45:54.000 It's so every man.

00:45:55.380 But 21-20, I mean, at one point...

00:45:58.900 I mean, Elizabeth Warren was the one candidate who I thought the Democrats would be smart enough

00:46:03.800 to not nominate.

00:46:05.120 Because she's just custom-built to lose to Donald Trump.

00:46:09.600 She is the perfect candidate to face Donald Trump if you want Donald Trump to win.

00:46:14.260 Right?

00:46:14.540 She is...

00:46:15.000 She has very little personality.

00:46:17.160 She does not do well under pressure.

00:46:20.240 She...

00:46:20.680 It comes off as very inauthentic.

00:46:22.420 She's not likable.

00:46:22.800 She's not likable.

00:46:23.920 She's a...

00:46:24.440 She's, you know...

00:46:25.500 She's an autocrat.

00:46:26.580 She's a Hillary Clinton.

00:46:29.020 Technocrat is what I meant to say.

00:46:29.960 Yeah.

00:46:30.340 She's a Hillary Clinton who is a technocrat.

00:46:35.180 She is a college professor.

00:46:37.720 Right.

00:46:38.860 That's not likable.

00:46:40.460 Yeah.

00:46:40.860 Whoa.

00:46:41.640 And, you know, she obviously has lots of crazy plans.

00:46:44.680 And there's that part, I think, where people...

00:46:47.960 She was smart enough to brand herself as having the person who has a plan for everything.

00:46:52.860 I think that's smart.

00:46:53.560 Now, that used to be something that would terrify Americans, right?

00:46:56.220 I mean, that used to be the type of thing where you'd say, well, wait, wait, the central

00:46:58.580 government has a plan for everything?

00:47:01.140 Yeah.

00:47:01.340 That's not the type of thing you would advertise back in the day.

00:47:04.200 Right.

00:47:04.520 You would...

00:47:05.000 Your plan would be to free people from the government.

00:47:08.320 Right.

00:47:08.500 It would not be, I've got plans to make the government bigger and more strong and in every

00:47:14.720 aspect of your life.

00:47:15.720 Right.

00:47:15.820 And even if those were your plans, I mean, you go back to a person like Bill Clinton who

00:47:19.720 would say, look, we know the era of big government is over, but we need to solve these common

00:47:24.400 sense problems.

00:47:25.300 Right.

00:47:25.520 And we can all do that together.

00:47:26.700 Right.

00:47:27.060 That's not the approach of Elizabeth Warren.

00:47:29.040 Because she is appealing to, I think, a number of people, especially those who are millennials

00:47:35.460 that say, this system doesn't work.

00:47:38.880 Remember when I was at Fox and I said, there's going to come a time when they're going to

00:47:43.260 say, yeah, you know what?

00:47:44.540 I am a socialist.

00:47:45.620 And you know why?

00:47:46.220 Because capitalism doesn't work.

00:47:48.300 Because none of this stuff is working.

00:47:50.580 Right now, there's a lot of people that think this doesn't work.

00:47:54.720 We need a plan.

00:47:55.600 And and there's a reason why it doesn't work, because it's neither a capitalist system or

00:48:04.120 a socialist system.

00:48:05.440 It's not a constitutional republic anymore.

00:48:08.260 We have violated the Bill of Rights and the Constitution every single day, every single

00:48:14.780 day.

00:48:15.000 We did a series of shows on the violations of just the first 10 amendments, the Bill of

00:48:20.500 Rights.

00:48:20.820 Because every single one of those had been violated, even the quartering of soldiers.

00:48:27.660 Third Amendment, baby.

00:48:28.860 Yeah.

00:48:29.040 Because it's the one where they say, except in wartime.

00:48:31.820 So it can still happen in wartime, by the way.

00:48:33.380 Right.

00:48:33.640 But soldiers can't just show up at your house and quarter themselves there.

00:48:36.480 That's not OK.

00:48:37.240 OK.

00:48:37.500 So now but you have to understand to understand how it's being violated.

00:48:41.000 You have to understand what that meant.

00:48:42.760 The reason why was because the king would just take soldiers and he'd say, you know what?

00:48:49.600 I think John Adams is a spy.

00:48:51.380 I think he's I think he's a danger.

00:48:53.800 I want you to go in.

00:48:55.260 I want you to watch his family.

00:48:56.780 I want you to listen to what they're saying.

00:48:58.340 And I want you to go through his stuff in his papers.

00:49:00.900 Find out what he's up to.

00:49:02.620 But they're just sleeping at the house.

00:49:03.980 No big deal.

00:49:04.440 They just need a little shelter for the night.

00:49:05.780 So they show up.

00:49:06.540 They do a little searching.

00:49:07.400 They look around.

00:49:08.240 They do their thing.

00:49:09.020 Right.

00:49:09.300 And so they were quartered.

00:49:10.580 Well, isn't that what the NSA is doing?

00:49:13.920 I mean, honestly, isn't that what Alexa is doing and Google Home?

00:49:18.380 Now, they're not part of the government.

00:49:19.940 So it's important to remember they're not constitutionally bound, only the government.

00:49:27.300 But isn't that what the NSA is doing?

00:49:29.980 They're collecting all of this information.

00:49:31.940 They're quartering soldiers.

00:49:34.160 They're just digital soldiers in our house.

00:49:36.400 We're we are absolutely violating every single part of the Constitution.

00:49:43.620 And that's why things aren't working.

00:49:46.380 We're not a free market.

00:49:49.300 We're not.

00:49:50.320 We are.

00:49:51.060 We are less free economically than the people that they say they want to make us into in in Sweden.

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00:51:30.440 And at 5 o'clock yesterday, I did a show comparing Elizabeth Warren to Woodrow Wilson.

00:51:35.900 She is Woodrow Wilson.

00:51:39.580 What she wants to do is exactly what Woodrow Wilson wanted to do.

00:51:45.680 Woodrow Wilson laid it all out.

00:51:49.080 And they've been trying to do it for 100 years.

00:51:51.140 Now, think of this.

00:51:51.960 Woodrow Wilson was a college professor.

00:51:54.940 He was new to politics.

00:51:57.700 He was kind of roped into it.

00:51:59.800 He becomes president.

00:52:02.680 And what does he want to do?

00:52:03.940 He wants to change the Constitution.

00:52:06.460 He does not want to eat around the corners or the edges.

00:52:10.740 He doesn't want to do that.

00:52:12.340 He wants fundamental transformation.

00:52:16.060 He says, put the hood up on the Constitution.

00:52:19.780 The Declaration of Independence is meaningless.

00:52:23.000 And the Constitution needs to be changed.

00:52:25.020 And so does our system of economy.

00:52:30.800 Now, his playbook really came from his main advisor, who actually lived at the White House.

00:52:38.400 Wouldn't this be weird if our president said, hey, Steve Bannon, I want you to live here at the White House with me.

00:52:46.760 And Steve moved his stuff in and was living at the White House.

00:52:50.140 Wouldn't that be weird?

00:52:52.540 Steve's all in on that, by the way.

00:52:53.900 Yeah, I know he's happy about that.

00:52:55.720 I mean, everybody would be up in arms in that.

00:52:58.740 Who is this guy now living at the White House with the president?

00:53:02.960 Well, that's what Woodrow Wilson did with a guy named Colonel House.

00:53:07.740 He wasn't a colonel.

00:53:08.840 It is his title that everybody called him Colonel House.

00:53:13.260 And he wrote a book called Philip Drew Administrator.

00:53:15.720 And it was basically a way to, in a novel form, explain what Woodrow Wilson wanted to do.

00:53:24.960 And in it, it talks about changing the Constitution.

00:53:27.640 And it has a whole new proposed Constitution in it.

00:53:30.040 But listen just to a couple of things and tell me that this isn't Elizabeth Warren and most of the Democrats.

00:53:39.100 Just the dedication to this book, 1912.

00:53:42.900 This book is dedicated to the unhappy many who have lived and died lacking opportunity because in the starting, the worldwide social structure was wrongly begun.

00:53:55.900 What's that saying?

00:53:58.920 It's saying that the system that we have was wrong in the first place and it's oppressed people.

00:54:06.020 And now all these people are not experiencing any kind of fairness at all.

00:54:12.340 That's the dedication to this book.

00:54:14.700 That is the could be the dedication to almost all of their campaigns.

00:54:20.900 Listen, a couple of other things.

00:54:22.480 The question of taxation was one of the most complex problems with which the administrator had to deal with.

00:54:30.340 Now, what he's what what this story is about is there is a civil war in America.

00:54:37.260 If you think progressives don't want a civil war, they don't want to divide and conquer.

00:54:43.860 Read Philip Drew Administrator.

00:54:47.120 This was the original progressive plan.

00:54:50.220 So there's a great civil war that happens in America because people are just, you know, the system's broken and and there's so much unfairness and inequality and everything else that there's a great civil war.

00:55:02.400 And one of the heroes of the war is Philip Drew.

00:55:05.820 And he gets a medal and everybody loves him and his medal.

00:55:10.280 And just like him and his dog, it's him and his medal goes to Washington and changes everything.

00:55:16.820 So he's talking about taxation here.

00:55:20.820 Philip Drew, he's the administrator.

00:55:22.580 He's not a president.

00:55:23.740 Don't call me a president.

00:55:24.900 It's this is exactly what Hitler did.

00:55:28.540 So, you know.

00:55:30.580 Why was Hitler?

00:55:33.640 Why was Hitler called the Fuhrer?

00:55:36.040 He was called the Fuhrer, the leader in the same way he's called the administrator.

00:55:47.260 He's not good enough to be called the president.

00:55:50.240 He's not good enough to to take.

00:55:52.800 I'm trying to remember von.

00:55:55.220 What's his name?

00:55:55.780 Hindenburg.

00:55:56.380 Hindenburg.

00:55:56.780 He wasn't good enough to take that title.

00:55:59.040 So he'll just take chancellor.

00:56:01.020 He'll just.

00:56:02.000 You know, I I'm more humble than that.

00:56:05.280 That's what Philip Drew is doing here.

00:56:07.800 He's saying, I'm just going to be an administrator.

00:56:09.720 I don't need any fancy titles.

00:56:11.640 And he surrounds himself.

00:56:13.440 Listen to this with taxes.

00:56:15.540 He gets a board of five to advise with him to carry out his very well defined ideas and plans.

00:56:24.300 I have a plan for everything.

00:56:25.640 So did Philip Drew.

00:56:27.500 Very, very well defined ideas.

00:56:29.640 But he puts these people together and on the board for taxes is a political economist, a banker who's thought to be the ableist man of his profession, a farmer who is very successful and a practical man, a manufacturer and a congressman.

00:56:44.840 Those are the people that get together and they know better than everyone else.

00:56:50.780 And they put this plan together.

00:56:52.520 And the administrator just goes ahead and and and puts it in, because, as it says later, upon assuming assuming charge of the affairs of the republic, this is Philip Drew, the administrator.

00:57:07.840 This is Elizabeth Warren, you know, given this title now of being the administrator, he had largely retained the judiciary as it was, you know, as it was constituted at the time.

00:57:20.680 But he also made a few changes in the personnel of state and federal officials.

00:57:25.340 Therefore, as yet there had been no confusion in the public's business.

00:57:29.220 So, in other words, business went on.

00:57:31.000 He kept the Supreme Court and he made some changes at the state and local level.

00:57:35.560 Sure.

00:57:36.000 Which, by the way, included changing state constitutions, pretty much abolishing the states.

00:57:42.680 And he said everything seemed about as usual, you know, with an exception that there was no legislative bodies currently sitting anymore.

00:57:53.200 And the and the and the the function of lawmaking was confined to one individual, the administrator himself.

00:58:02.040 If you read this and you look at Woodrow Wilson and you look at Elizabeth Warren, they're saying the same things.

00:58:14.120 And you got to remember, this is not a dictator.

00:58:16.280 This is not a dictator.

00:58:17.480 This is just an administrator, somebody who's going to work with the smartest people around, all of the most educated people around.

00:58:25.120 And they'll have a plan for everything and just give them the power to implement their plan for everything.

00:58:37.220 It is the height of arrogance.

00:58:39.800 It's what scared the living daylights out of the American people with Woodrow Wilson.

00:58:44.800 Woodrow Wilson needed a war to do this.

00:58:49.100 But don't worry, don't worry if we don't have a war, as conventional thinking tells us, we do have the war on climate change.

00:59:00.660 It is, after all, our World War Two.

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01:01:14.740 You know, if you look at if you look at what happened in in the era of Woodrow Wilson and you want to know who progressives are.

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01:03:23.700 Welcome to the world of Elizabeth Warren.

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01:04:52.180 Ben.

01:04:54.560 Howe is, um, he is an interesting man, columnist, podcaster, television writer, filmmaker, award-winning

01:05:01.740 political ad producer.

01:05:03.060 I mean, he is, uh, he's one of the most sought after, uh, talents in the industry, uh, when

01:05:10.780 it comes to messaging, uh, and, and ads.

01:05:14.220 And I think if you look at the story of America, we had good founding fathers that had principles

01:05:21.920 and we would stray, but those founders would just keep saying the same principles to us

01:05:28.500 and we might lose our way.

01:05:32.240 Um, but for a while there, we kept returning to those principles.

01:05:36.300 And now I think we've gotten into a dark period where we, we're beginning to question whether

01:05:44.180 we're good at all anymore.

01:05:47.200 Uh, and that's our biggest problem where we can't even see our upbringing and our principles,

01:05:53.440 uh, anymore.

01:05:55.420 And I think Ben Howe's life is, is almost that same story.

01:06:01.220 Welcome to the program, Ben.

01:06:02.360 How are you?

01:06:03.580 I'm good.

01:06:04.320 Thanks for the introduction.

01:06:05.260 I really appreciate it.

01:06:06.300 Um, do you see what I'm, do you see what I'm saying about comparing your life to America?

01:06:11.900 I do.

01:06:12.580 I think, um, you know, there's lots of people across the country where, uh, they run into

01:06:18.360 this situation where their principles are really important to them, but the urgency of their

01:06:23.800 lives also invades.

01:06:25.820 And I think worldwide what America has tried to do is, uh, maintain our values ahead sometimes

01:06:33.880 of what might be the easiest or most urgent solution.

01:06:37.800 And I think that's an important thing.

01:06:39.200 It's what I do try to do.

01:06:40.480 I fail often at, uh, just like anyone would.

01:06:43.100 I think we all do.

01:06:43.740 But so, so Ben, help me out on, on this because you, you have a new book out called, uh, the

01:06:48.900 immoral majority, which is a fascinating, uh, read.

01:06:53.500 And, and, and I want to, I want to pose a couple of things to you.

01:06:57.420 For instance, Hong Kong, my principle says that we should stand with the people of Hong

01:07:03.840 Kong.

01:07:04.880 However, I'm president of the United States.

01:07:08.300 I probably go with the economy and not, uh, risk a, uh, uh, you know, a global depression

01:07:17.120 or a global war.

01:07:19.440 Have I violated my principles?

01:07:22.160 I, I don't believe so.

01:07:23.600 No, because I, I think that, and this is one of the things that I talked about in the book

01:07:27.540 with, uh, pastor Robert Jeffries of, uh, first Baptist church in Dallas.

01:07:32.220 Um, there's a, there's needs of the government, which is an entity, you know, it's not a, it's

01:07:38.420 not an individual, it's a person.

01:07:39.580 It has interests that are being protected by people.

01:07:42.300 When we talk about the character of the people that are going to be doing that, I think it's

01:07:46.300 very important, but there are certainly foreign policy needs and sovereignty, uh, considerations

01:07:51.940 that are different than what an individual might have to consider.

01:07:56.720 So I think we should be doing what we can to help people around the world, but we do have

01:08:01.460 to protect our own interests.

01:08:02.900 The issue is not whether or not you can maintain your personal principles or for instance, as

01:08:08.840 Robert Jeffries said, um, which was outlandish in my opinion, he said of Trump that because

01:08:17.540 he did not exemplify the characteristics that Jesus spoke of on the Sermon on the Mount, that

01:08:23.060 made him a good president.

01:08:24.860 Uh, in other words, in a way he was saying, run as far as you can, but that's because he was

01:08:30.860 conflating the individual of Donald Trump with the needs of the country.

01:08:36.180 Certainly the country, uh, um, functionally speaking needs to have considerations that

01:08:42.740 aren't the same as the individual.

01:08:44.020 Um, it's why we're, it's, I think it's why we're so, um, tribal right now.

01:08:50.500 We're, we're expected to agree with everything anyone says or does.

01:08:56.080 And that's not true.

01:08:58.560 I might agree with, uh, uh, some of the policies or what they're doing, but I might not like

01:09:04.980 them as an individual, or I may not agree with this one part of it, but it's all or nothing

01:09:10.580 now, especially on the left.

01:09:13.340 Uh, yeah, well, I would say that, um, I would, I honestly believe it's just as bad on the right.

01:09:18.640 I mean, I hate to be a dirty, both sides are, but the, the issue that I, the issue that I

01:09:24.480 see is that so much of the, the ways that, cause over the years I was a conservative, I

01:09:30.520 was a tea partier.

01:09:31.440 I mean, I was still a conservative.

01:09:32.420 I was a tea partier.

01:09:33.320 I wrote red state, you know, I've, uh, the blaze, I like everything.

01:09:37.840 And I felt the same things everyone else said, the attacks, the accusations of racism, the

01:09:43.880 political correctness gone awry, but what I've seen since I came out against Trump, and I know

01:09:49.020 that you saw this as well in 2016 was this other side of that.

01:09:53.740 I started getting attacked by the right.

01:09:55.180 And I saw so many similarities with just a different words being used.

01:10:00.020 So as an example, political correctness is so horrible.

01:10:03.020 Every time somebody, uh, you know, says something against Barack Obama, it's racism.

01:10:07.780 Well, the right doesn't do that.

01:10:09.240 But now every time you say something against Donald Trump, you're a snowflake.

01:10:12.200 It's the same, uh, mentality.

01:10:14.460 It's the same attitude.

01:10:16.020 It's the same bad faith.

01:10:18.260 And with that kind of bad faith, we will never bridge the gap.

01:10:21.480 It's going to lead eventually to irreconcilable differences at the level of war.

01:10:26.520 And we, we have to find a way to be able to talk to each other.

01:10:30.240 Right.

01:10:30.400 And that's why, again, I don't want to make this about Donald Trump or, um, I do want

01:10:35.440 to make it about, um, principles and how we look at things.

01:10:39.840 If right now I can't have a conversation with anyone, because if I'm talking to a diehard

01:10:48.280 Trump supporter, there are things that he does and things that he says that I strongly

01:10:53.240 disagree with that.

01:10:54.580 I'm really, I'm like, I wish he wouldn't do trade.

01:10:57.240 This is killing us the way he lives his life, you know, or has in the past.

01:11:03.680 Um, I don't, I don't like that at all.

01:11:06.240 But if I talk to somebody and I say, I'm, uh, yeah, you know, I, I agree with the president

01:11:13.400 on this.

01:11:14.020 Well, then you agree with all the things that he's done or is doing.

01:11:18.480 Uh, and it's like, no, no, I, I, I, I'm not a cafeteria Christian.

01:11:25.240 I know when it comes to Christ, I buy into Christ, but other than that, I am cafeteria.

01:11:32.980 I do look for, you know, this person has this and this person has that.

01:11:37.100 And it will never, you're right about bridging the gap.

01:11:40.640 We will never bridge a gap.

01:11:42.500 As long as we keep telling each other, you're all good or you're all bad.

01:11:48.080 Well, and I think one of the issues too, uh, specifically with Christians, which was,

01:11:53.040 you know, not to say they're the only group that has an issue, but coming from that world,

01:11:58.200 it was most urgent to me to address Christians.

01:12:01.800 And one of the things that I really think is a huge problem right now is, uh, self-delusion

01:12:07.820 people, they will lie to themselves to believe they're doing something right.

01:12:13.100 Even if they're defying their principles, because underneath it is a desire to fulfill

01:12:18.700 their self-interest.

01:12:19.720 You know, they, they want their things that are more, uh, related directly to their lives,

01:12:25.060 but they also don't want to seem as though they're defying their principles when they,

01:12:29.260 you know, completely backtrack on everything that they said about the 90s.

01:12:33.700 You don't even, you don't even need to go there.

01:12:35.980 Uh, Ben, you, you make a point in the book about, um, uh, I've lost my train of thought

01:12:43.640 about how you, um, Stewie, we were just talking about it.

01:12:47.520 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:12:48.240 Um, and hey, Ben, um, it was talking, you, you mentioned this and I think this is a really

01:12:52.720 profound point, which is, which is now Glenn's going to say.

01:12:56.980 No, I think this is really profound in that we, a lot of times we look at things, we make,

01:13:02.240 everyone has, you know, you know, whatever politician it is, you're making difficult

01:13:06.140 decisions.

01:13:06.720 Sometimes there's things you don't like and sometimes there's things that you do.

01:13:09.740 And a lot of times Christians would justify that.

01:13:12.720 Um, and we do often in saying that like, well, we keep losing this and we keep losing this.

01:13:17.620 And if we don't, if we don't vote this way, we're going to lose this.

01:13:20.040 And even as high as a religious liberty and, and, and all of these really important issues

01:13:24.240 that are really important, but we don't look at it as the, as the way that we probably

01:13:28.240 should, which is not feeling bad for ourselves for losing something, but feeling bad for others

01:13:33.220 who are missing out on the things, you know, eternally from a larger perspective that we're

01:13:39.180 supposed to be representing in our everyday lives.

01:13:43.020 Yeah, well, absolutely.

01:13:44.020 I think that, you know, what happens is you look at what you think is best people, you

01:13:49.880 know, Judeo-Christian values and what the country's just founded on, and you know, what's good

01:13:54.280 and you want what's good and you want other people to be a part of that.

01:13:57.720 Um, as you start getting attacked, which by the way, we were, you know, as Christians,

01:14:01.880 we were told we would be, but you start to be attacked, you know, people start to impugn

01:14:06.060 your motives. It is easy and understandable, I think, to reach a point of exhaustion and anger

01:14:13.920 and to want vengeance and all of these other things.

01:14:17.220 Totally. Everything we're going through is human nature. Everything.

01:14:20.460 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And I think that's why there's so many warnings against those

01:14:25.960 very things is to try to instruct us that, you know, you can both have an interest in your life

01:14:34.000 and your children and your job and everything else, but you don't have to do it at the expense

01:14:39.620 of some of the most important things that were said in the Bible, like loving each other,

01:14:43.840 loving your enemy, not returning evil with evil. I mean, these are, these are really fundamental

01:14:48.760 aspects of being a Christian in the world and operating in the world without losing the perspective

01:14:55.440 of the kingdom. And I think that people get so afraid that they're going to lose their stuff

01:15:01.040 that they start to think of it completely backwards. We should be weeping for people

01:15:07.380 who don't join us, not for ourselves and what we lose. People that followed Jesus directly

01:15:12.980 were crucified upside down before they died. I mean, they, they, they suffered immensely.

01:15:18.040 Any one of them could have been at that moment, just been like, you know what, if I just lie

01:15:22.100 and I don't, I say, I don't believe this, maybe they'll let me go and rationalize to themselves.

01:15:26.960 And it's important that I'm here so that I can tell other people, but no, they didn't do that.

01:15:31.020 They stuck to their principles all the way to the point of death, because there are more

01:15:34.520 important things than our suffering. Ben, can I take you back to something pretty interesting

01:15:40.520 outside of politics? Cause it made me think of just parenting issue, which is your, you grew up

01:15:45.860 and you kind of got into a little bit of trouble, became sort of a troubled youth, as they say.

01:15:51.700 Wait, can I just, I reject your premise that I grew up.

01:15:53.920 Yeah, right. And, and your parents dealt with, I mean, because you got into drugs and everything,

01:16:01.400 your parents dealt with this in a really interesting way. And you kind of looked at that as seemingly

01:16:05.980 like the foundation for the book. I'm curious as to, can you explain that story and, and what they

01:16:10.780 did? Cause I, I, I, as you, as you were explaining it, it seems really noble. And then part of me

01:16:15.960 thought, well, I don't know. I mean, it's, it's scary, I think as a parent to go through

01:16:19.540 something like that. And absolutely. And look, I have four kids. So I, you know, at this point,

01:16:24.720 I'm, I'm waiting for the universe to enact some revenge on me. Oh, your, your mother's words. I

01:16:30.820 hope you have a child just like you. They will come true. And, uh, but so, yeah, I, I was one of

01:16:39.860 three kids. I was the youngest. And when we moved, um, my brother went in the Marine Corps, Caleb Howe,

01:16:44.920 he's also does what, what we do. And, uh, my sister went to college. So I was suddenly an only

01:16:50.280 child in another town. I did what I think a lot of teenagers might do in that situation, which was,

01:16:55.280 I found a way to adapt. And it turns out if you smoke pot and, uh, do other drugs and drink and

01:17:01.080 basically rebel, you can make a lot of friends. Um, at some point that culminated with, you know,

01:17:07.860 I don't know, statute of limitations here, but let's just say I was doing a lot of illegal things

01:17:10.920 and, um, I got arrested for possession and, uh, paraphernalia and things of that nature.

01:17:17.720 My dad came, they bailed me out and I was waiting to hear all of the horrible things that were going

01:17:23.580 to have to happen while I waited to find out what was going to ultimately be my fate. And he said,

01:17:29.960 he just wanted me to bring my friends over and that we could talk about anything. And it didn't

01:17:35.980 have to be religious. He was happy to talk about religion, but the only rule was we had to bring

01:17:40.100 something to talk about. I talked my friends into coming with me, you know, none of them wanted

01:17:44.000 to come, but within a few weeks, it was like, they couldn't wait. And it grew from five to about 15

01:17:51.700 or 20. No, you know, they didn't treat me like I was more special or anything. They, they treated

01:17:56.600 everyone like they were smart and welcome. And these were kids that my parents had every reason to

01:18:02.040 believe were corrupting me and they brought them into their home. And some of them lived with us for a

01:18:07.640 while because they had gotten kicked out of their own homes. And so looking back as an adult and my

01:18:14.440 parents' unwillingness to kick me out, even as bad as everything got. Yeah, it was tough for them.

01:18:20.460 They suffered through it though, because they had to show me unconditional love and they did.

01:18:26.800 Caleb, I mean, not Caleb, Ben, thank you so much.

01:18:30.100 By the way, that's the phrase I was, as I was looking through, I was the first time I ever realized

01:18:34.340 that you and Caleb were related. I knew both of you, both of your work,

01:18:38.300 obviously the blaze and many other conservative sources, Ben Howe, Caleb Howe had no idea they

01:18:42.600 were related. By looking at our pictures, which one do you think is older?

01:18:46.460 That's really a great point. Ben, thank you so much. Co-host of the Fifth Estate Show and

01:18:53.060 the author of the new book, The Immoral Majority, Ben Howe. Thank you so much, Ben.

01:18:58.280 Thank you. Thanks so much for having me. You bet.

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01:25:27.160 Welcome to Jason Buttrill, who is, uh, our chief researcher here on the Glenn Beck program,

01:25:43.320 uh, former military intelligence and a guy I depend on an awful lot when we're looking into,

01:25:48.600 um, uh, things like Elon Omar and, uh, and things where we have to, where, where there's,

01:25:55.300 where you need somebody who has done Intel before to look in and really try to dig down and see

01:26:01.980 what's going on. One of the things that we've followed for a long time is Russia and their

01:26:07.860 cozy relationship, uh, with the Clintons, uh, especially when it came to Gazprom. And we've

01:26:13.680 done a lot of, uh, episodes on Gazprom and, and why wasn't Clinton investigated? And what did

01:26:20.500 the FBI actually had that? They had a literally a mountain of evidence, uh, showing that there is

01:26:28.680 corruption in the United States. And yet it was never really pursued. I saw a story about a friend

01:26:35.540 of mine, Patrick Byrne, who is the CEO of overstock. This guy's a straight ahead libertarian. He doesn't

01:26:44.840 pull any punches. He's not a political guy, does not get involved in, you know, Republican and Democrat,

01:26:51.580 I think probably hates both sides or, you know, just as, you know, uh, as antipathy for both sides,

01:26:58.820 uh, equal. And I saw this story come out that, that he somehow or another has evidence that is now

01:27:06.660 with the FBI because he was involved with the Gazprom, uh, investigation with the FBI and also

01:27:17.620 with the Trump investigation of Russia. And for the life of me, as I'm reading it, I couldn't make

01:27:24.720 heads or tails of it. I sent it to Jason. I said, could you look into this? And I, I sent you several

01:27:30.020 different stories that all kind of have to piece together. Can you tell me what's what this story is?

01:27:35.840 I think the majority of the people probably let this story slip by because you're thinking this

01:27:40.880 is the overstock CEO. So why would he know anything about this? Yeah. And pretty much everyone just

01:27:45.380 said, forget it. That interview where he mentioned that it was on Fox business, I believe. And the,

01:27:51.020 the, the, uh, accusations were explosive. They really were. I mean, he was talking about,

01:27:55.900 you know, people, you know, committing political espionage and it was at the highest levels of the FBI.

01:28:01.040 Um, and he said that it was the information was about to come out, but he said that he was going

01:28:07.400 to come out and release some of this information to a select few just to kind of get people on the

01:28:12.320 right track. So they'll kind of like push the government, you know, if some of this, you know,

01:28:15.900 information came out. Well, right after he made these claims, he pretty much went radio silent on

01:28:22.060 it. And the claims, like you said, they said he's, he claimed that he was at the very center of the,

01:28:27.100 the beginnings of the Russia probe and the Clinton investigation. Now he didn't go into

01:28:31.460 any of the, uh, inside, you know, information about the Clinton information. So we're kind of

01:28:35.940 left to guess on that one. And by and large, we were left to guess on the Russia probe stuff,

01:28:40.140 but we did some digging around. Now he did an interview that same day. This was on August the

01:28:45.940 12th. He didn't interview that same day. It was not on camera. It was just a sit down interview

01:28:50.620 with an investigative journalist. And he started talking about how he got into a, I guess, a relationship

01:28:56.900 with a, I, do you remember the Maria Butina? She was the Russian that was supposedly a spy that

01:29:05.720 had gotten in with the NRA and everybody else. Right. They were trying to, there was really

01:29:09.940 something fishy about the whole thing. We talked about it. I believe on, on this show that I was

01:29:15.940 like, this is insane that you're calling this woman a Russian spy. I mean, has tradecraft gotten

01:29:20.800 that bad even since I got out of the intelligence community? Because if it has, I mean, we have

01:29:25.280 nothing to fear from the Russians at all. Because she was very public, right? A very

01:29:28.160 public figure. To say the least. Yeah. She was a very public figure in Russia. The Russians

01:29:33.580 hated her because they were leery of her because she was all about, I guess, libertarianism is

01:29:39.160 a thing over in Russia. Who knew? Kind of. Kind of. Not the way we would understand it, but

01:29:44.620 on some things, kind of. Gun rights. Yeah. Religious liberty. Yeah. That's what she was a

01:29:49.320 spokesman for. And she would attend conferences, all that. That brought her over here to the

01:29:52.940 States. And she wanted to reach out to libertarian-minded people on the issues that she believed

01:29:58.140 in so that she could, like, make a link up between the people in Russia and people over

01:30:01.760 here to say, hey, look, you know, we're not all, like, crazies like Putin. You know, we

01:30:05.080 can find some common ground. We have some things in common. So she reaches out to Patrick Byrne

01:30:10.260 in 2015. And they got into a little relationship. Now, Patrick, he has a security clearance for some

01:30:16.400 work he did with the Council on Foreign Relations. And he was like, hey, there's this Russian,

01:30:20.060 you know, chick reaching out to me. She's wanting me to go to Russia and meet up with some Russian

01:30:24.020 officials. This freaks me out. So he tells the FBI. Now, now, think of this. I want you to know

01:30:28.580 this. I like Patrick. I trust Patrick. This is the kind of guy he is. He's approached by somebody

01:30:35.660 and she's approaching him in a way romantically, isn't she? A little flirtatious. Yeah. Okay.

01:30:41.020 And he just is like, well, I don't know. She's from Russia. She's I'm going to check. He values his

01:30:48.560 security clearance. And so he calls the FBI to say, look, do you have anything on her? She she is

01:30:56.280 talking to me. She seems to be interested in me and she wants me to go over to Russia. And they say

01:31:03.440 what they say? Go right ahead. No issues here whatsoever. They say, quote, this is a direct

01:31:09.240 quote. She's been looked into and she is, quote, fine. So go off and do whatever you want. Your

01:31:15.660 security clearances is not in jeopardy. No big deal. No harm, no foul. Okay. So he does. So he

01:31:21.300 continues. And the relationship got intimate right from the get go. And he was still a straight shooter

01:31:28.440 about it. He was still leery of her. He continued to report to the FBI, even though they told him not

01:31:33.940 to. And he especially started reporting when she started making comments like, you know, I really

01:31:39.960 want to get into close relationships with certain candidates. Marco Rubio was was mentioned. Hillary

01:31:46.420 Clinton was also mentioned. Basically, anyone that they thought might have power in the next few years,

01:31:51.240 she was trying to get some kind of relationship with. Right. Speak to them. And so he is having a

01:31:56.400 relationship. But he's, you know, I think like any any decent human being that's an American citizen

01:32:02.300 is like, OK, I'm not sure. I I mean, it seems weird, but it seems OK as well. Are you sure? So

01:32:10.300 he calls the FBI several times. Yes. And says there she's saying these things to me. Are you sure

01:32:17.260 she's OK? And not only that, she's telling me she's meeting with this is just an example. I aid for

01:32:24.220 Hillary Clinton on this day at this place at this time. Are you guys interested in that?

01:32:28.700 Nothing. FBI was not interested. Yeah, but she's meeting with this person who's the head of this

01:32:33.960 person at this time at this hotel. They didn't care. They did not care. So he's like, whatever.

01:32:38.620 So he continued his relationship. Eventually, it dies down. We're getting close to the actual

01:32:43.860 presidential election now. I didn't really say how close, but I'm assuming within months of the actual

01:32:48.800 election. Then the FBI calls him. He's not in a relationship with her anymore. He hardly talks to her.

01:32:54.620 FBI contacts him and says, now we want you to re-up that relationship. You know, remember

01:33:00.040 that girl? Yeah. Go ahead and rekindle that relationship and do what you were doing before.

01:33:04.840 Let us know what she was doing. So he's a straight shooter. He's absolutely I'll do it. So he does

01:33:10.240 it helps the FBI. But this time he says, guys, I know that I'm not telling you anything you already

01:33:16.020 know, but she's not a spy. She's not the next coming of Anna Chapman. She is just literally

01:33:22.180 what she says. Now I know all the people she's talking to. This is what she is. So this is

01:33:26.280 because he got to know her because they said, get to know her. Yeah, it's fine. There's nothing wrong.

01:33:32.860 So he did. And because he still had the questions in his head, he's doing his own research with her

01:33:40.060 and he's meeting the people she's saying over in Russia. And he's smart enough to figure out

01:33:46.580 is this is this a spy situation? Is this an infiltration of America? He knows it's not.

01:33:53.820 So when they call him back, he now is at a place where he's like, no, I've I yeah, I had the

01:34:00.320 relationship. She's not a spy. Yeah, right. Exactly. Okay. But the feds wanted to paint her

01:34:06.140 as one anyway. So they for reasons we can get to in a minute, they paint her as a actual like

01:34:12.880 clandestine like honeypot spy. That's what they paint her as they want to charge her with espionage.

01:34:18.240 And then I don't want to put words or thoughts into his mind or mouth, but I mean, he's got to

01:34:22.920 be thinking, what are you doing? This is I gave you exculpatory evidence, witness testimony.

01:34:27.680 This is not what she's all about. And I've been a straight shooter here. You know, he's been.

01:34:32.680 Yeah. And for some reason, you didn't have a problem when she was meeting with Hillary Clinton.

01:34:37.120 But now, for some reason, you're very interested in her when she's involved with the NRA and she's

01:34:45.360 involved with Donald Trump. And that's where the media frenzy hit. They showed pictures of her at

01:34:51.020 the National Prayer Breakfast at the NRA convention. They picked it up, ran with it. Now, this exculpatory

01:34:57.640 evidence that he gave them never made it to court. It never made it. And Boutina's lawyers are furious.

01:35:03.020 They just recently, a few weeks ago, sent a letter saying, what the heck is going on? How could we

01:35:08.060 request it by law? You have to put this exculpatory evidence into the record. They never did.

01:35:14.000 That is just missing. It was never there. Now, he said something interesting in this one interview

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01:35:48.400 ship and sink the deep state ship. He says, Bob Barr is our greatest hope on this because

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01:39:16.560 So what do we think that Bob Barr is doing with this information? And is Patrick coming out? Patrick

01:39:25.700 wrote to me this morning and he said, you know, I, I, I, I can't talk about it, uh, any more than I

01:39:31.140 already have. Uh, but, uh, I, I will call you as soon as I, uh, have something like more to say or

01:39:40.660 something like that, which is interesting to me. I wonder if Patrick is working with the FBI or leaking

01:39:50.060 some of this self stuff out to get the FBI to move. That would be, that, that would be my guess.

01:39:56.840 Mine too. And it's interesting, it's interesting that he didn't comment further. So I'm wondering

01:40:01.020 if someone, he was made to stop commenting, pure speculation, but it's interesting to come out.

01:40:06.000 He can't be made to stop talking. Can you? I mean, I guess they could, uh, they could ask you,

01:40:10.180 but they can't make you stop talking. I don't, I don't know if he signed what he signed when he

01:40:15.720 agreed to work with them. I don't even know how that works. I don't either. But, um, but I, I,

01:40:19.740 I think it sounded very voluntary, his involvement. I think that we should, uh, if this sounds very

01:40:25.840 credible, this sounds very credible. It's been verified on a few levels, some, uh, unnamed sources

01:40:31.960 and the DOJ and FBI have not denied this. Uh, they have just said, I know Patrick, he's not a guy. He

01:40:38.560 will. He's not a guy to make this up. He has nothing to, he has nothing to gain and everything to lose.

01:40:43.960 So as this sounds so credible and to go back to your question about what is a bar doing,

01:40:49.060 he also said he was involved with the Clinton, uh, investigation. I don't know how that even

01:40:53.620 happened, but if he was involved with the Russia probe and the Clinton investigation, well, we do

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01:41:04.680 uh, and the Clinton foundation scandals, how all that went, went, went, you know, connected with each

01:41:09.480 other. Um, we know last year, uh, do you remember that informant that the FBI had that basically

01:41:14.680 brain cancer? Yep. That died of brain cancer. He, um, he said, uh, a few months ago, I guess

01:41:20.740 it was March of last year. He was tired of being, you know, thrown under the bus by Democrats. And

01:41:25.380 he said, look, this is ridiculous that you guys are throwing me under the bus. He was a Democrat.

01:41:28.380 Uh, was he? I think he was, but he, he was furious. He was irate because it was like, I, I,

01:41:33.380 I gave up a ton of my life to this investigation. Now I'm in hiding. Um, they, they, I think they

01:41:39.820 leaked his name. He was even more furious about that because he wanted to be completely anonymous,

01:41:43.820 but he said, um, but what he did leak was he said, well, the FBI has actually come back to me.

01:41:50.220 They've come back to me. They've asked me more questions and they focus specifically on the

01:41:54.120 Clinton foundation payments that were received by Russians during that entire scandal.

01:41:58.940 And what the Clintons did or what, I'm sorry, what the, what the, uh, Congress did is they

01:42:04.720 called him and then they made fun of him and said, well, you don't remember cause you got

01:42:08.560 a brain tumor. Right. Right. And, and he was furious about that. How dare you? You are the

01:42:15.300 people that we trusted with the ADA thing. Yeah. You're the ones who say you look after the

01:42:19.420 most vulnerable. I have a brain tumor medical condition and it's, it's not causing me to

01:42:25.240 forget stuff. And you're accusing me of this. Right. I mean, he had every reason to be upset.

01:42:31.820 So we, we pray for the good guys in our justice department. Uh, and if that's Bob Barr, who I,

01:42:37.920 I think it is. Do you think Bob Barr is a good guy? Uh, yeah, I think so. Yeah. I've read it.

01:42:43.420 Whoever has, whoever is trying to clean things up, uh, and set the record straight on all of this stuff.

01:42:51.000 We pray for you and we salute you for your, your duty and your service to your nation.

01:42:58.440 Back in a minute.

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01:44:28.420 Welcome to the program. Uh, Kevin Ryan. Kevin is, uh, one of our writers, uh, on, uh,

01:44:35.180 the Glenn Beck program, glenbeck.com, the blaze. Uh, and I, I, I, I think we should offer him combat pay

01:44:43.920 for this, but we sent him out to Iowa and you were with the candidates over the weekend. How many times

01:44:52.140 did you see these guys? So we saw 11 candidates, um, over the course, yeah, over the course of four

01:44:58.000 days. Um, it's all the front runners, um, four times, saw, uh, Kamala Harris five times. Oh my God.

01:45:05.960 Yeah. And in a ton of different settings. So they're, they're there for the Iowa state fair,

01:45:10.800 but they're moving around quite a bit. And, um, I think I went with my dad. He, he, he,

01:45:17.080 Oh, wow. He came with me and you met my dad, very Irish. Um, and so it was kind of,

01:45:22.300 he was sort of taking in the whole scene in this, um, this way of puzzlement really.

01:45:30.220 So, uh, we're looking forward to your reports are going to be on glenbeck.com. He's got a lot

01:45:35.380 of behind the scenes stories, but you were there when Biden said, Hey, poor kids are just as good

01:45:43.100 as white kids. That's right. Yeah. Um, justice town, I forget what his wording, but it was a very

01:45:48.880 sloppy either or. And, um, that's one way of putting it. Yeah. Uh, he, he was from the moment

01:45:56.680 he walked in the room, he was pretty sleepy. Like he seemed sleepy. Like he was tired. And, um,

01:46:02.500 he saw multiple times. Was that a recurring situation with him or was it just that one

01:46:07.380 speech? Just that one speech. Okay. Yeah. So here he is. Here's what he said in that speech.

01:46:12.560 And the other thing we should do is we should challenge these students. We should challenge

01:46:16.720 students in these schools to have advanced placement programs in these schools. We have

01:46:20.640 this notion that somehow if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright

01:46:26.300 and just as talented as white kids. Wealthy kids. I love the one person who claps. It wasn't

01:46:31.460 you, was it? Oh, yeah. Cause there's that one person's like, yeah, and the audience in general

01:46:42.620 was receptive of it. Cause I think it was like. How many people, how many people were in the room?

01:46:46.820 Um, it was a small room. It was actually at a plumbers union that the event was held. I'd say

01:46:52.140 there are about 140 people there. All with plumbers crack. It's yeah. All right. Sure. Okay.

01:46:57.560 Including the media. Uh, yeah. Wait, 140 people. What's the breakdown between actual people and media

01:47:04.000 just there covering it? There were probably 60, 60 media there. 60 media out of 140 people at the

01:47:10.060 event. Wow. That's incredible. Wow. And that story was not everywhere. I mean, that was picked

01:47:14.540 up by the blaze. I know, um, I think Fox news might've picked it up, but it wasn't widely reported

01:47:19.360 that he messed up like that. Not, not at all. I think if, uh, someone from Fox news hadn't been

01:47:24.240 there, it would not have gotten reported at all. Um, because it's sort of slowly trickled into a story

01:47:30.140 where it would have been a fire storm. They would have been reporting live. Yeah.

01:47:37.060 If it was Donald Trump, they would have gone live with that. For sure. We're joining him

01:47:41.880 already in progress where he just said this. That's what they would have done. Uh, but they

01:47:47.400 didn't do it here. So you said the crowd didn't have a problem with that. No. And he, he adjusted

01:47:53.380 to it pretty quickly. Yeah. Yes. He realized he did it. He realized he did it. He was very aware

01:47:58.120 of what he just said. Um, what was your, give me a, cause you got to see 11 candidates.

01:48:03.660 There's 20, 25, 26 in the field now. Uh, so almost half the candidates in four days,

01:48:09.600 many of them multiple times. We get this impression when we're watching, you know, a debate of what

01:48:16.740 these candidates are like. What are they like in the room? Who works the room really well?

01:48:20.380 Kamala Harris. That's the one I walked away with the most. Saw her five times and part because

01:48:26.480 she just like the grateful. She hustles. Yeah. She's like the grateful dead.

01:48:30.440 All right. This is my fifth time seeing you. After seeing these, these candidates,

01:48:37.000 that's many times you become the grateful to be dead. If you can just pull it, you're begging for

01:48:41.720 it. So she's, she's the most, would you say she just knows how to work a room or she's the most

01:48:46.660 authentic? Definitely not the most authentic. Um, the opposite almost like she knows how to read a

01:48:53.660 room. So well, she knows what to say. She also hustles so much and she needs that job. She has

01:49:01.040 that, that fire in her eyes. Biden's like, yeah, I'll probably get this. You know, he's boy. That's

01:49:07.180 what happened to Clinton. Exactly. Clinton lost. That's interesting. Clinton in 08 had the same

01:49:13.500 attitude, uh, that she was just going to stroll in. It was her turn and Obama took it from her.

01:49:19.120 Hmm. Yeah. That's, that's interesting. So Kamala works the room. Well, Biden a little tired

01:49:24.940 occasionally, uh, but also does he seem fully there? Cause yeah. Did you see he's, he seems

01:49:30.800 like, and I've never felt this way about him until the last maybe year or so where he seems

01:49:36.020 like he's kind of slipping a bit. He, he has the gravitas that you expect from a president and that

01:49:45.160 you don't, you don't, you don't really see it in many people, you know, that it's that suction

01:49:48.840 energy. Yeah. As soon as he walks in the room, everybody moves toward him. Uh, Kamala Harris

01:49:54.860 has it even more. So she, she knows I was, we were seeing a yang at a winery one time, but

01:50:03.820 you want to, you might want to rephrase that. Yeah. I saw some yang. I was at a winery and

01:50:10.600 we were showing a dwang. Investigative journalism. Uh, were you just drinking? Is that what was

01:50:18.820 happening? Okay. So you saw Yang, he's at a, Andrew Yang at a winery. And, uh, Kamala Harris

01:50:23.680 had just spoken and she, uh, she, she waited until he started speaking. She was sitting in

01:50:29.960 the front row and right after he began talking, she got up and walked out of the room and half

01:50:35.120 of the media went with her and half of the room went with her. Like it was a definite

01:50:39.360 power play. She's cold as ice, man. Kamala Harris would, I mean, she's surgical. Yeah,

01:50:44.280 she is. Yeah. She'll slit your throat. She does not care. And you saw that with Biden,

01:50:48.940 right? I mean, you know, that was on the debate stage. I mean, that's an amazing move, right?

01:50:53.900 Like you, you're walking out in the middle of the guy's speech. There's a decorum. You don't

01:50:57.560 do that, right? No. Kamala doesn't care. She doesn't. And she stayed outside of the

01:51:01.420 building too. She kept walking around. There's these huge glass windows.

01:51:06.940 She's doing this to Andrew Yang. Imagine what she's going to do to Biden. Oh my gosh. Oh

01:51:11.220 my gosh. So how, how was, uh, Bernie? Bernie was interesting. The first time I saw Bernie

01:51:17.020 was at a Mexican disco. A Mexican disco. Yeah. It was this

01:51:27.000 little room with a tiny bar and we'd been there two nights before to see Castro. And

01:51:34.480 when we saw Castro, there was actually a bouncy castle inside. That's such a weird way to elect

01:51:41.240 a leader. It was very strange. Yeah. And it was like, but I didn't see, um, I mean, Bernie

01:51:47.700 was captivating there. People were drawn to him and he was really the only one I saw who

01:51:53.060 drew protesters. So like at the Iowa state fair, there were a lot of people with, um,

01:52:00.120 you know, Trump signs and a lot of MAGA hats and really, yes. And there was like a small

01:52:06.360 area. There were a lot of people there, but I'd say misplaced energy. I think. Yeah.

01:52:10.540 Bernie's doing, he's sinking himself. He doesn't need any help himself. And you kind of want

01:52:14.800 him to be the candidate against Donald Trump. He'd be the easiest to beat. You think so?

01:52:20.520 I do. Bernie. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you put him up, you don't see how anyone

01:52:25.640 could elect him, but I mean, Elizabeth Warren is really custom made for Trump. I feel like

01:52:29.060 that. How did she do? She did very well. She did better than Biden did surprisingly.

01:52:35.060 Well, the new poll shows are down from Biden. One point. One point. Yeah. She really surprised

01:52:40.420 me. Uh, my dad's reaction to Elizabeth Warren and he, he hadn't been really keeping up with

01:52:45.880 the candidates at all. And he just knew her name, but we walked into, it was a fundraiser

01:52:50.840 that we walked into. So very friendly crowd packed room. It was actually the ballroom where

01:52:56.700 buddy Holly played his last show. Oh wow. Um, so my dad turned to me and he was like, what's

01:53:03.300 wrong with this lady? I don't like her at all.

01:53:05.020 She does not come off as likable. She doesn't. She comes. Yeah, she's not. There's a lot of

01:53:14.280 similarities to Hillary. I mean, that's why I was so, I'm so surprised Democrats are running

01:53:18.420 in this direction. There's so many similarities. Well, they want a woman and then the Marxists

01:53:22.700 want a Marxist. But I mean, you have Kamala Harris, right? Who's a much better package for

01:53:27.700 a candidate than Mortis. But I think she is. She's a little bit more sensible on certain things

01:53:32.040 like Israel and. Right. I think she is seen as the Clintons. You know, what did you really

01:53:38.140 get with Bill Clinton? You got a guy who stood up and said the Arab big government is over

01:53:43.260 and actually moved in that direction. So they kind of, the, the real, the ideologues on the

01:53:50.440 left, they don't like the political, the typical democratic politician. And while Kamala Harris

01:53:57.020 is not that person, uh, she's closer to it, she's closer to it than Bernie or right where

01:54:03.240 Warren, you have no doubt. Warren's going to get in and she's going to do these things

01:54:07.980 or she's going to try. As you pointed out, she's Woodrow Wilson. She'll get it done if

01:54:12.640 she can. Uh, and that's what they, I think that's what they want. Anybody else surprise you?

01:54:18.240 Any other, uh, interesting lower tier candidates you saw? Um, Yang was interesting. Uh, at that

01:54:24.840 same event I just mentioned, we, Jay Inslee was there and there was a moment where they

01:54:29.000 kind of blended in with the crowd after and they were talking to everybody. Kamala Harris

01:54:33.780 went through with like a huge entourage of media and people wanting selfies and Jay Inslee

01:54:39.000 was there and I turned my dad. And he was offering selfies. Exactly. That's exactly what

01:54:44.280 it was. I said, Hey dad, will you take a picture of him? And he's like, which one? He didn't

01:54:49.400 know. I didn't even know who the candidate was. Jay Inslee had none of that energy, none of

01:54:53.860 that suction energy. So it's like, uh, and Yang was interesting cause he was just hanging

01:54:59.060 out. He actually seems like a normal, normal guy. I actually kind of like him. Yeah, definitely.

01:55:06.100 Yeah. He like where he seems like the guy you could hang with and have a conversation

01:55:09.520 with. And I've never heard him like use the typical democratic messaging of that side

01:55:14.180 is racist. Those people don't like these policies cause they want to hurt poor people. He doesn't

01:55:18.220 talk like that. He does. He disagrees with conservatives, but I've never seen him be anything other

01:55:22.760 than respectful to them. Who do you think was the most authentic? Um, probably Yang.

01:55:28.840 Yeah. Bennett was interesting too, but I think Yang was, was the most interesting. And I think

01:55:34.220 Bernie was authentic in that he believes what he's saying. Yes. Um, so, and I am, I admire

01:55:40.580 that. Um, but he's a, he says a lot of things that aren't true. He's authentic, but he lies

01:55:46.480 a lot, which is weird. It's a weird combination. I think it's actually his combination though.

01:55:50.060 He's an authentic liar because he says a lot of things that just flat out are not true

01:55:54.620 about, about the policies, but he authentically believes that I think they're better for America

01:55:59.440 and that he, he really, he's a true believer in socialism. He's not one of these people

01:56:05.660 who's, you know, I think there's an element of Harris and this might be what you're talking

01:56:09.180 about. There's an element of Harris that is embracing these far left policies because

01:56:14.360 she thinks it's the way to win the primary. That's not, that's not Warren or Sanders.

01:56:18.480 You know, Warren and Sanders are believers, true believers, along with, you know, a few

01:56:23.620 of the other, you know, lower tier candidates, but those two are like, anyway, they're second

01:56:28.440 and third in the field and they are legit true believer socialists. And that is a, that's

01:56:34.560 a dramatic thing for this country because one of them, they've already talked about having

01:56:37.960 an alliance on the debate stage. Like let's not attack each other until it gets further

01:56:42.020 down the road. Um, you know, one of them drops out. The other one is the front runner.

01:56:47.580 Yeah. Yeah. Do you think the Bernie people will go to Warren? I'm not sure who they'll,

01:56:53.160 who they'll go to. Um, they could just as easily go to Trump, you know, that's the Bernie

01:56:59.280 thing is weird. Like with that, cause he, uh, there's a lot of Bernie energy that it's Bernie

01:57:03.480 exclusive. Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of cult of personality with Bernie. And

01:57:07.000 I think some of those people who voted for Bernie in the primary dropped out and didn't

01:57:11.460 vote for anybody in general. Some of them did vote for Trump. Yeah. And some of them

01:57:14.900 did some vote for Trump. Thank you so much. Absolutely. Appreciate it. Good to join you

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01:59:23.540 to you again about Hong Kong tomorrow as I've been watching these images. I've got all the televisions

01:59:31.980 in front of me. And as I've been watching them today, as we've been doing the show, I am reminded

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01:59:48.520 Go ahead. Let them beat us. Let them beat us with their clubs, their billy clubs. Let them sick the dogs

01:59:55.980 on us because the West will wake up. Good people will wake up and say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

02:00:03.480 It worked for Gandhi. It worked for Martin Luther King. I'm not sure it's going to work this time.

02:00:08.500 I'm not sure it's going to work this time. You've lost all faith in humanity, too.

02:00:13.280 Ah, yeah, me too. I just know. I think we've painted ourself into a corner where we're just weak.

02:00:18.560 We're just very weak. China is is strong, you know, and we're playing a game of chicken. And

02:00:25.400 look at we had one bank. We had Bank of America come out yesterday and say we now have a one in three

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02:00:55.260 What is what is? I'm not sure anybody really knows how stable this situation is.

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