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00:03:25.680 There is a lot to talk about today.

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00:03:45.840 And there's a strange echo in American politics that never seems to learn from its own reflection.

00:03:52.080 I want to talk to you about the White House.

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00:05:10.980 All right, so let me give you some perspective on this White House nonsense.

00:05:15.940 Nonsense.

00:05:18.400 Every time a president dares touch the plaster or paint of the White House, the press loses its collective mind.

00:05:27.320 And seemingly, unless the name is Obama.

00:05:29.120 We have seen this happen over and over and over again.

00:05:32.960 So let me give you some history.

00:05:34.680 When FDR built the East and West Wings, those were not there before FDR.

00:05:41.640 The East and West Wings built by FDR.

00:05:44.600 Washington reporters acted as if he were erecting a palace while the people starved.

00:05:50.220 I looked up the headlines.

00:05:52.020 These are fabulous.

00:05:53.540 Now, I think you could probably make the case with the East Wing because it included a swimming pool that was just for FDR.

00:06:03.120 And it was all paid for by the taxpayers.

00:06:05.400 And at the time, America was in the Great Depression and bread lines were circling the blocks.

00:06:11.080 Families lived on ration books.

00:06:13.300 And the government was picking up the tab for the president's expansion of the White House, which included a giant pool for him.

00:06:20.140 Yet, history has been kind to him.

00:06:23.700 And now, the East Wing is revered.

00:06:27.600 All of the buildings, the press cried outrage over them.

00:06:32.120 They are the same buildings that they're now crying outrage over now.

00:06:35.980 Except this time, the East Wing is just too historic to change.

00:06:40.480 It's just, how dare him do this?

00:06:42.960 So let me give you a first of many huge differences here.

00:06:46.180 What Trump is doing will not cost the American people a dime.

00:06:51.180 Not a dime.

00:06:53.280 Even when the press and those on the left admit that it is private funding, they say, yes, but it is a grotesque waste of money.

00:07:02.900 Wait a minute.

00:07:04.600 From the people that just took $294 million from billionaires, over a quarter of a billion dollars for the No Kings movement?

00:07:16.420 You're lecturing me on what people should do with private funds?

00:07:20.400 Please give it a rest.

00:07:22.380 Okay, so not a cent of taxpayer money is going into this.

00:07:25.480 It's privately funded by him and those friends that he has called and said, can you help us out on this?

00:07:31.860 Okay, privately funded.

00:07:33.440 The second difference is it's not for his use.

00:07:37.780 There is no swimming pool.

00:07:39.660 There's no tennis court.

00:07:41.620 You know, there's no Obama basketball court.

00:07:44.400 It's not for his use.

00:07:46.300 And even, you know, even if it had things that the president would use in it, it's not going to be completed until after he leaves office, after he's gone.

00:07:56.500 So it's not private.

00:07:58.580 It's being funded privately.

00:08:00.880 It's a state dining room and ballroom.

00:08:04.380 The only thing private about this is the funding.

00:08:08.000 We should all be celebrating this.

00:08:11.280 America's getting an upgrade and we're not paying for it.

00:08:14.720 And don't get me wrong.

00:08:15.820 If this was done by really anybody else, including George Bush or any of the Republicans, presidents that have passed, I'd probably have a bigger problem with this.

00:08:28.040 But I am under an agreement that I cannot share all the things that I know about what the president is doing and has done to the White House.

00:08:42.400 Not for any other reason.

00:08:43.920 He just, he's not like that.

00:08:45.900 He does not want credit for really great things.

00:08:48.980 I can tell you.

00:08:51.020 No, no, no.

00:08:51.780 I know.

00:08:52.080 Who are we talking about here?

00:08:53.060 It's weird.

00:08:54.020 No, it's weird.

00:08:54.980 This is, he doesn't like that softer side of him.

00:08:59.480 It's weird.

00:09:00.380 So, yeah.

00:09:00.940 So let's clarify that.

00:09:01.840 He absolutely does want credit for really great things.

00:09:04.780 He takes it all the time and a lot of times deserves it.

00:09:06.860 Right.

00:09:07.140 But not in this.

00:09:08.560 This is a different type of thing.

00:09:10.300 And I looked at him when I had to sign this and I'm like, why?

00:09:13.800 Why?

00:09:14.460 Because you signed a non-disclosure.

00:09:16.080 Non-disclosure.

00:09:16.700 And so I know what he's doing.

00:09:19.280 I have seen what he has done up front, personal, and there is no one better to work on the

00:09:27.140 White House than him.

00:09:28.600 Okay.

00:09:28.940 No one better.

00:09:30.400 He is upgrading things that, and he's doing it the right way.

00:09:35.620 Yet the media, their outrage, it's identical to 1933.

00:09:40.460 Only this time the facts don't fit the fury.

00:09:43.560 Okay.

00:09:43.840 Let me remind you of another scandal at the White House.

00:09:50.140 Nancy Reagan and the White House China.

00:09:54.060 Okay.

00:09:55.160 Let me give you the headlines from this one.

00:09:58.240 Quote, out of touch, Nancy spends $200,000 on plates while Americans starve.

00:10:07.600 Americans were starving in the 1980s?

00:10:10.660 Really?

00:10:11.060 Really?

00:10:12.360 Reagan royalty dying in luxury as cuts hit the poor.

00:10:17.780 This was for White House China.

00:10:20.320 Now, the press made her look like she was royalty and she just couldn't eat off of everyday

00:10:25.360 plates.

00:10:25.900 That's not the truth.

00:10:27.140 And I know the truth because before the White House butler, and this was under George W.

00:10:33.480 Bush, the butler who had worked there since the Johnson administration, the White House

00:10:39.180 butler is the head guy.

00:10:41.560 He oversees everything in the White House.

00:10:44.840 I spent the day with him and just talked to him as, you know, I really wanted to do a,

00:10:49.660 you know, a podcast or a video with him, but he wouldn't.

00:10:54.120 And his stories were unbelievable.

00:10:55.860 And he told me a story about the White House China because we went down and he was showing

00:11:00.840 me all the China and everything else from all of the different presidents.

00:11:03.740 And he said, you know, one of the best first ladies we ever had that I ever worked for was

00:11:08.980 Nancy Reagan.

00:11:09.620 And I said, really?

00:11:10.460 Even with the China thing, huh?

00:11:11.980 Because she was out of control, right?

00:11:14.080 He said, no.

00:11:15.460 Let me tell you that story.

00:11:17.420 He said, Nancy came to him and said, what does the White House need?

00:11:21.400 Because every president, most of them, some don't steal the furniture.

00:11:27.240 Every president tries to leave the White House better than they came in.

00:11:31.160 So she said, what is it that the White House needs?

00:11:34.700 I'll raise the money for it.

00:11:36.480 He said, we need a complete set of state China.

00:11:39.580 We don't have enough, you know, matching plates for official dinners.

00:11:43.080 So we have all this mismatched stuff and it looks horrible.

00:11:46.060 So she, again, didn't use taxpayer money.

00:11:49.540 She raised private funds so the White House could have a matching set of China for, you

00:11:55.160 know, foreign dignitaries when they come.

00:11:57.380 Well, the press turned her into an absolute villain.

00:12:01.480 And the butler told me, he said, I begged her.

00:12:04.660 I begged her.

00:12:05.180 Please let me go public.

00:12:06.580 Please let me defend.

00:12:07.820 Let me tell the press.

00:12:08.940 This was me, not you.

00:12:10.640 And she said, I'm a big girl.

00:12:12.200 This comes with a job.

00:12:13.580 No, you just do your job.

00:12:15.120 This I'll take the heat for this.

00:12:17.440 Now, that used that's the kind of strength that people used to really respect in America.

00:12:22.440 But, you know, not if it's coming from a Republican.

00:12:25.300 That's the kind of dignity that Melania showed when the press tore her apart recently on absolutely

00:12:33.640 everything.

00:12:34.560 But before I get to that, let me just let me stop here at Hillary Clinton because she's

00:12:40.660 one of the loudest critics of what's going on.

00:12:43.360 OK, the ballroom.

00:12:44.480 It's an outrage.

00:12:46.620 This is the same first lady who, upon leaving the White House, carted off more than two hundred

00:12:54.400 and fifty thousand dollars of White House furniture.

00:12:58.320 The only thing that got her to return it was the backlash in the press.

00:13:04.920 By the way, her staff also, if you remind, and her husband, they left petty vandalism behind,

00:13:11.960 prying all the W's off all of the keyboards before George W. Bush's team arrived.

00:13:16.600 So they they vandalized and stole furniture.

00:13:20.980 Let me show you the flip here.

00:13:22.980 When Donald Trump arrived and he entered office the first time, what he found was a a greatly

00:13:30.060 aging White House and executive West Wing.

00:13:33.760 OK, the all the doorknobs were mismatched.

00:13:37.060 They were loose.

00:13:37.820 They were cracked.

00:13:38.560 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:39.860 Worn carpets, almost century old bathrooms that desperately needed updating.

00:13:45.740 In America's most symbolic home, can we have some nice bathrooms in here that just work

00:13:51.160 that are not one hundred years old?

00:13:52.640 You would want that in your house.

00:13:54.780 He took out of his own pocket to restore these things in ways that were absolutely appropriate

00:14:02.060 and beautiful for the White House.

00:14:04.600 The doorknobs alone, he had them cast custom brass doorknobs engraved with the presidential

00:14:12.120 seal.

00:14:12.800 They are some of the most beautiful doorknobs I've ever seen.

00:14:15.160 I can't imagine how much they cost him.

00:14:17.960 They were not cheap.

00:14:20.040 But you weren't billed for it.

00:14:22.480 You might most likely don't even know any of these things.

00:14:25.340 OK, because it's the people's house.

00:14:27.960 He's restoring the people's house and trying to make it nicer with Trump.

00:14:32.100 However, no good deed goes unpunished.

00:14:34.400 Just the doorknobs alone.

00:14:36.960 Beautiful and historic.

00:14:38.560 OK, just that.

00:14:40.600 But let me tell you, when Biden's team came in, those very fixtures, the doorknobs, some

00:14:48.060 of them mysteriously just disappeared.

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00:16:18.660 So I really want to focus on the press here.

00:16:30.500 The same press that is now howling about historic preservation when Trump adds a ballroom to the White House or when Melania replanted a rose, stood absolutely dead silent about history while America's history was being destroyed.

00:16:47.240 Let me start with Melania.

00:16:50.100 She spent her time and their money to restore the White House rose garden, and the media erupted in mock outrage.

00:16:59.060 How dare she had, I'm quoting, desecrated a national treasure.

00:17:03.840 She had ripped out the roses and destroyed Jackie Kennedy's legacy.

00:17:08.220 So here's the truth, because I talked to Melania about it myself, privately.

00:17:14.780 What did she do when she replanted the rose garden?

00:17:19.280 Melania went back to the original architecture and horticultural plans drawn up by Jackie Kennedy and Bunny Mellon.

00:17:28.000 Okay, those are the two that did the rose garden.

00:17:31.740 She took those original plans and she restored the rose garden back to its original 1962 design, the way Jackie had intended it before years of overgrowth and disease ruined everything.

00:17:46.640 Okay, so Melania restored it, revived it, balanced it, symmetry, sunlight, so the whole thing could flourish again.

00:17:55.400 And what did they say?

00:17:57.040 They didn't say thank you.

00:17:58.840 They didn't say thank you for preserving history.

00:18:01.600 They printed lie after lie and turned beauty into blasphemy.

00:18:07.000 Why?

00:18:08.140 Because the wrong person was holding the shovel.

00:18:10.920 If that was Michelle Obama and she did exactly the same thing, they would have been fine with it.

00:18:15.100 You know, these are the same people that have no problem watching actual history burn.

00:18:21.360 When rioters were toppling statues of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ulysses S. Grant, Abraham Lincoln, they said nothing.

00:18:31.180 They didn't shed a tear or write an op-ed about the loss of history.

00:18:35.840 Nothing.

00:18:37.160 When they burned St. John's Church, which is across the street from the White House,

00:18:42.000 this is a church where every president since James Madison has worshipped,

00:18:46.360 the press didn't call that burning, you know, some sort of a desecration.

00:18:51.460 They actually called it, quote, an expression of grief.

00:18:56.620 So forgive me if I don't buy into their outrage, because this is not about preservation.

00:19:05.900 All of this is about politics.

00:19:07.760 All of this is a distraction, and none of it is about history.

00:19:11.680 It's all about hate.

00:19:13.580 But when they obsess over chandeliers and garden paths that you're not going to pay for,

00:19:20.820 while our cities are crumbling with crime, their voices are silent on the cities.

00:19:27.180 In fact, they say that's beautiful.

00:19:28.580 But look at the desecration here.

00:19:30.580 Please.

00:19:32.160 Federal officers are now under siege.

00:19:35.320 They're being targeted.

00:19:37.600 Congress is paralyzed with cowardice.

00:19:40.220 The Democrats are playing this tired game of survival.

00:19:43.900 Republicans are mumbling about fiscal restraint, but the Democrats are pushing for more spending

00:19:49.340 and threatening a longer shutdown just to please the radical and dangerous left, their base.

00:19:55.920 By the way, I think Chuck Schumer's, I think the Chuck Schumer's of the Democrats

00:20:01.440 actually fear literal guillotines in the streets from their so-called supporters on the very left.

00:20:09.000 They're cowards.

00:20:10.420 So, no, this is not about a ballroom or a rose garden or Donald Trump.

00:20:15.700 Here's what this story is really about.

00:20:18.300 It's a mirror.

00:20:20.160 It's a mirror.

00:20:21.720 And the reflection is damning.

00:20:25.240 What is being exposed now isn't excess or ego,

00:20:29.780 but the pettiness of the ruling class that despises restoration, hates beauty,

00:20:37.320 and cannot stand the idea that someone might build something lasting privately

00:20:43.540 and with pride because they're serving the nation.

00:20:49.200 The real scandal here is not in the White House or what's being done to the White House.

00:20:53.140 The real scandal is what is happening every day in the newsrooms all across America,

00:20:58.600 where truth was evicted long before the roses ever were evicted from the rose garden.

00:21:08.420 The hypocrisy and the constant,

00:21:12.500 why do we listen to people who have been wrong every step of the way?

00:21:19.360 Why are we listening to these people?

00:21:24.840 I mean, Stu came in today and he said,

00:21:27.280 what was it?

00:21:27.860 You know, as a historian, I can't believe you're more upset.

00:21:30.820 Guy runs a museum or, you know, like I think,

00:21:33.700 because I'm the type that I think would,

00:21:35.740 I think they look like real improvements and it doesn't really bother me.

00:21:39.380 But I'm surprised you, a guy who,

00:21:43.880 I mean, I think if they changed, you know, a piece of,

00:21:46.900 I mean, you go in there and describe every single thing in the Oval Office

00:21:50.180 and you've talked to me at length for hours and hours and endless,

00:21:53.720 1794, 1794, not 1940, 1794.

00:21:58.980 You touch the interior or the exterior of the White House

00:22:02.760 and you're not doing with preservation in mind?

00:22:06.120 I mean, Truman,

00:22:07.720 Certainly more.

00:22:08.780 There were boards in the White House from the War of 1812,

00:22:13.580 1812, the char marks, Truman took all of that and threw it away.

00:22:18.460 Okay.

00:22:18.960 He just took it to the studs of the White House.

00:22:21.800 Now, all of it needed to happen,

00:22:23.780 but nobody, nobody was saying anything about that during Truman.

00:22:27.400 But you're,

00:22:28.460 that's the White House itself and the War of 1812.

00:22:32.000 Again, I tend to not really care about these things,

00:22:34.020 but let me just,

00:22:36.720 you're not at all surprised at the process.

00:22:39.020 For example, we were told as of a couple of days ago that we were,

00:22:43.700 that we have diagrams of it.

00:22:44.800 We've showed them on the air that a small,

00:22:46.860 like just the facade of the outside of the East wing was coming down.

00:22:50.560 And then just kind of offhanded in a press conference with a couple of

00:22:54.520 reporters,

00:22:55.180 Donald Trump says,

00:22:56.720 actually we're knocking the entire East wing down.

00:22:59.140 I restored,

00:22:59.960 that's not a surprising process.

00:23:01.820 I restored a home,

00:23:03.120 an 1821 home in Connecticut.

00:23:06.160 Don't ever do it.

00:23:07.920 See, I remember this.

00:23:08.740 You remember that?

00:23:09.180 Okay.

00:23:09.620 So I'm restoring this home.

00:23:11.680 And because of a slight change that I make,

00:23:14.260 it's Paul Post and Beam,

00:23:15.680 a beam shears.

00:23:16.920 And all of a sudden my ceilings are coming down and the house is splitting in

00:23:20.220 half.

00:23:20.960 Okay.

00:23:21.380 When you are doing restoration,

00:23:24.260 when you're,

00:23:24.700 when you're doing construction on something like this,

00:23:27.480 you can get into it and go,

00:23:28.820 okay,

00:23:29.060 this is a nightmare.

00:23:29.920 This is going to cost us a lot more.

00:23:32.420 It's not going to be worth it.

00:23:34.500 Tear the thing down.

00:23:35.960 It's a hundred years old.

00:23:37.920 Rebuild it to look exactly the same.

00:23:40.280 Put modern engineering in it.

00:23:42.340 Make sure that it lasts.

00:23:43.760 Make sure that it stands.

00:23:45.720 Let's just gut this thing.

00:23:46.980 It's a lot easier to do.

00:23:49.360 Rebuild it looking exactly the same while preserving the historic artifacts in it.

00:23:56.840 This is Glenn Beck.

00:23:59.380 How is that not reasonable?

00:24:00.820 I just don't get it.

00:24:01.660 When you're buying or selling a home,

00:24:04.060 although I would like to talk to you about Obama and the difference if I,

00:24:07.580 if Obama was doing this.

00:24:08.660 Yeah.

00:24:09.520 Okay.

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00:24:22.900 you know,

00:24:23.360 or somebody who's like,

00:24:24.200 I don't know why this person helped me with my house.

00:24:26.900 Okay.

00:24:27.120 That might work out,

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00:25:14.700 Great event going on this weekend.

00:25:16.440 Glenn Beck,

00:25:16.880 Megyn Kelly together in Fort Worth.

00:25:18.860 You can get tickets at megynkelly.com.

00:25:30.880 When somebody is doing an incredible job,

00:25:40.180 it is our responsibility and only the right thing to do to pause for a moment and go,

00:25:47.100 wow,

00:25:47.740 look at this.

00:25:49.100 And the person that is doing an unbelievable job and most people don't know about it is

00:25:54.580 Sebastian Gorka.

00:25:55.740 He is the deputy assistant to the president,

00:25:58.100 national security council,

00:25:59.360 counterterrorism,

00:26:00.740 senior director.

00:26:01.460 And what has been announced recently?

00:26:06.380 I mean,

00:26:06.620 Sebastian has been working behind the scenes quietly the whole time,

00:26:10.900 making a list and checking it twice.

00:26:13.360 And over 300 jihadists,

00:26:16.900 I think the number is 370,

00:26:18.840 370,

00:26:20.180 I think jihadists have been neutralized in the last nine months.

00:26:25.580 It is an incredible pace.

00:26:28.040 And Sebastian Gorka is here to tell us about the operation.

00:26:31.800 Sebastian,

00:26:32.200 how are you,

00:26:32.620 sir?

00:26:34.060 I'm very well.

00:26:35.180 I'm very well,

00:26:35.860 Mr.

00:26:36.160 Beck.

00:26:36.660 I will have a correct you live on your own show.

00:26:39.580 That's all right.

00:26:40.120 I am,

00:26:40.700 I am honored to be here to talk about these incredible,

00:26:43.360 incredible stories that you're absolutely right.

00:26:46.080 Every American needs to know about and all evil doers around the world need to

00:26:50.280 know so that they get even more worried,

00:26:52.640 but it's not up to me.

00:26:53.700 It's not my accomplishment.

00:26:54.940 It's president Trump and the amazing team I have in my counterterrorism

00:26:58.560 director of the national security council.

00:27:00.640 It's the members of the intelligence community who are hunting these bad guys

00:27:04.420 down and giving their locations to our tier one operators,

00:27:07.900 to others in our military who are bringing eternal justice to these evil

00:27:13.340 doers and turning them into red mist.

00:27:15.120 So it is a team effort in the spirit of the commander in chief.

00:27:19.460 And we have only one challenge.

00:27:21.140 It's the hardest thing we do every day here.

00:27:22.900 And that's keeping up with the commander in chief,

00:27:25.200 president Trump.

00:27:25.940 I know that.

00:27:26.940 I know that.

00:27:27.480 And it's amazing.

00:27:28.260 Every single,

00:27:28.760 I just talked to Marco Rubio last week.

00:27:30.940 He said the same thing.

00:27:31.900 I said something to the vice president and he said,

00:27:35.860 no,

00:27:36.040 no,

00:27:36.160 no,

00:27:36.300 it's not me.

00:27:36.860 It's him.

00:27:37.320 I know who's in charge,

00:27:38.980 but I also know he selected each person for a reason.

00:27:42.720 And,

00:27:43.200 and I know people that you selected to be on your team and they are,

00:27:46.720 they're the best of the best.

00:27:48.500 And I just want to thank you.

00:27:49.900 They're all,

00:27:50.300 they're all rock stars.

00:27:51.400 They're all rock stars.

00:27:52.700 And they make my job very easy.

00:27:54.880 So let's,

00:27:56.040 let's start who,

00:27:56.880 who has been on this list that in the last nine months is no longer,

00:28:01.100 you know,

00:28:02.580 taking air.

00:28:04.480 Well,

00:28:05.080 we're,

00:28:05.340 you know,

00:28:05.560 it's,

00:28:05.900 as you said,

00:28:06.380 it's more than 370 leading jihadis around the world in all stages of

00:28:10.700 operations.

00:28:11.220 Who've either,

00:28:11.680 either killed Americans or who were plotting to kill Americans,

00:28:14.740 like the number two Abu Khadija and the number two of ISIS in Iraq,

00:28:18.820 but whether it's Iraq,

00:28:19.880 Syria,

00:28:20.320 Somalia,

00:28:20.740 or elsewhere,

00:28:22.080 these are the best of the best of the best.

00:28:24.240 Of the global jihadi movement that I'm they're lost to their respective

00:28:28.880 terrorist groups makes it very hard for them to continue in the ways that

00:28:33.180 they did under the Biden administration and administration that really

00:28:36.860 watched these people and didn't want to kill them.

00:28:40.720 This is,

00:28:41.640 you know,

00:28:41.840 this is,

00:28:42.540 as I say,

00:28:43.320 the bumper sticker for what we're doing is this administration,

00:28:47.440 America is back in the business of counter terrorism.

00:28:51.380 And also it's not just the ones we kill,

00:28:53.420 but I've got to tell you a story because this is,

00:28:56.020 you know,

00:28:56.360 this is when you do this,

00:28:58.160 you say to yourself,

00:28:59.220 okay,

00:28:59.540 I'm done.

00:29:00.780 There is no higher.

00:29:01.880 My career can go.

00:29:03.260 When I walked into my skiff,

00:29:05.360 my secure compartmented information facility,

00:29:07.480 because we work in these classified environments in the white house.

00:29:10.120 When I walked in day one,

00:29:11.500 because thank the good Lord,

00:29:13.280 I'm not Senate confirmed.

00:29:14.360 I could start working at 1201 as soon as the president was sworn in for a

00:29:18.540 second time.

00:29:19.380 I'm old school.

00:29:20.260 I think we're about the same age.

00:29:21.520 And I said,

00:29:21.920 okay,

00:29:22.180 it is the 21st century,

00:29:23.400 but I'm going to get a white board.

00:29:24.980 I found a white board,

00:29:26.540 took it to my skiff,

00:29:27.600 and I wrote five things on that board,

00:29:30.160 which were priorities for the president in terms of counterterrorism.

00:29:33.860 The top one was a then classified nom de guerre,

00:29:37.120 and it was Jafar.

00:29:38.540 And our number one priority was to bring to justice the man who was

00:29:43.620 responsible for the murder,

00:29:45.900 the massacre of 13 of our war fighters during the route of Kabul at the

00:29:51.140 Abbey Gate massacre,

00:29:52.260 that ISIS suicide bombing.

00:29:54.180 And I'll be honest with you,

00:29:55.060 Glenn,

00:29:55.580 I thought,

00:29:56.860 you know,

00:29:57.100 this is going to be a heavy lift.

00:29:58.660 He's hiding out in a very difficult part of the world,

00:30:01.520 a hard target region.

00:30:03.140 This is going to take us a year,

00:30:06.320 at best,

00:30:07.200 maybe six months,

00:30:08.300 if the whole intelligence community,

00:30:10.000 you know,

00:30:10.820 re-pivots to this.

00:30:12.900 41 days later,

00:30:14.340 Glenn,

00:30:15.040 I'm standing on the tarmac at 3 a.m.

00:30:18.080 at Dulles airport.

00:30:19.620 The president has just given his speech to Congress,

00:30:22.900 his first new address in the new administration.

00:30:26.160 And I'm standing there in the cold with Tulsi Gabbard,

00:30:29.560 John Radcliffe,

00:30:30.300 the director of the CIA,

00:30:31.860 Kash Patel,

00:30:32.680 Pambondi.

00:30:33.520 And why are we standing there at 3 a.m.

00:30:35.180 in the cold?

00:30:36.260 Because the DOJ jet is about to land from Pakistan with Jafar,

00:30:42.140 his real name is Sharifullah,

00:30:43.880 on board in handcuffs.

00:30:46.420 41 days into this administration,

00:30:49.200 we put him behind bars,

00:30:50.840 because President Trump,

00:30:52.320 during the campaign,

00:30:53.720 made a promise to the 13 families of those who were murdered,

00:30:56.960 we will bring him to justice.

00:30:58.720 So this is when you say America first is real,

00:31:04.200 and President Trump is keeping his promises.

00:31:06.060 So I have to thank you for this.

00:31:08.740 This is the Abbey Gate is personal to me as well.

00:31:13.380 Many of the people that were going to the gate were,

00:31:17.340 we,

00:31:18.320 my charity had shepherded them to the gate.

00:31:21.360 I know.

00:31:21.900 Yeah,

00:31:22.160 you know.

00:31:22.420 Yes.

00:31:22.640 And it was just,

00:31:25.360 it was horrible.

00:31:26.560 And I honestly wish you could go after some of the people in the State Department for what they did,

00:31:30.720 played the role they played.

00:31:32.500 But what about the Defense Department back then,

00:31:35.660 the Department of War now?

00:31:36.720 Well,

00:31:36.840 what about,

00:31:37.380 you know,

00:31:37.720 Lloyd Austin,

00:31:38.480 that disgrace to the uniform he wants,

00:31:40.260 who said,

00:31:40.760 we have no regrets in the manner in which we left Kabul.

00:31:44.300 Right.

00:31:44.720 That was,

00:31:45.320 that was the last administration.

00:31:46.880 I know.

00:31:47.160 That was a year ago.

00:31:48.020 I know it was.

00:31:48.660 Is it true when you,

00:31:49.740 when he first came in,

00:31:51.440 you,

00:31:53.360 you went in and said,

00:31:54.900 look,

00:31:55.020 we've been tracking this person under the Biden administration for 18 months.

00:31:59.100 And what did the president say to you?

00:32:02.400 So this is amazing.

00:32:03.580 So we,

00:32:04.240 I spent the first eight days of the administration is going around the Department of War,

00:32:08.340 the intelligence community,

00:32:09.240 getting a lie of the land.

00:32:10.320 And how bad have the last four years been in counterterrorism?

00:32:14.720 And everybody said the same thing as if they had,

00:32:16.940 you know,

00:32:17.080 talking points.

00:32:18.460 Can we please be allowed to do our job and get back to killing jihadis?

00:32:23.480 Can we quote,

00:32:24.320 return to the rules of engagement of the first Trump administration,

00:32:26.920 which meant if a combatant commander in CENCOM or AFRICOM saw a leading jihadi,

00:32:32.220 he could pull the trigger and take that guy out.

00:32:35.400 Under Biden,

00:32:37.420 every HVT target,

00:32:38.920 every high value target had to be sent to Jake Sullivan,

00:32:42.840 the propagator of the Russia hoax,

00:32:44.740 the then acting clown of a national security advisor,

00:32:48.540 who would then wake up Joe Biden from his nap and say,

00:32:52.300 sir,

00:32:52.780 would you want to kill this jihadi?

00:32:54.400 And of course,

00:32:54.920 nothing ever happened.

00:32:55.880 Well,

00:32:57.100 day eight,

00:32:58.380 the then national security advisor,

00:33:00.080 myself and one of my team members walked into the Oval Office with a big map and a big photograph.

00:33:05.500 And we said,

00:33:06.020 sir,

00:33:06.600 this is a leader of ISIS.

00:33:08.240 He's hanging out in a giant terrorist training camp in northern Somalia.

00:33:11.800 And we've been tracking him for the last 18 months under the administration.

00:33:17.620 This is all declassified now.

00:33:19.420 The president looked up at us from the Resolute desk and he said,

00:33:22.720 what do you,

00:33:23.060 what do you mean?

00:33:24.200 We've been tracking him,

00:33:25.640 kill him.

00:33:26.520 And he got out his iconic shop.

00:33:28.520 You know what he's like.

00:33:29.200 He grabbed that iconic Sharpie and he ticked the go box on the operational orders.

00:33:38.060 We left the Oval.

00:33:39.840 My team member called up a certain part of the U.S. military.

00:33:44.140 The green light was given.

00:33:45.620 And literally,

00:33:46.540 Glenn,

00:33:46.820 less than 28 hours later,

00:33:49.440 I'm back in the situation room underneath the West Wing.

00:33:52.240 It's like a Tom Clancy movie,

00:33:53.840 but it's real.

00:33:55.040 The op order said 845.

00:33:57.000 We go hot and we're watching this guy blithely walk around his terror complex like he has no care in the world.

00:34:07.140 And like a Swiss watch at 0845 on that Saturday morning,

00:34:12.700 he turned into a cloud of red mist and we watched it live with the National Security Advisor.

00:34:18.400 That was 11 days into the administration.

00:34:22.020 And since then,

00:34:23.020 we've added another 369 jihadis who have seen the hammers of hell come down on their heads.

00:34:29.200 Why did we bring the Abigate guy back into the United States to try him?

00:34:35.580 Why didn't we just kill him?

00:34:38.200 Well, look,

00:34:40.600 we are bound where possible to capture them.

00:34:47.260 We use lethal force when capturing them is not possible or would put our forces and civilians at too great a risk to do so.

00:34:55.660 So we're not cowboys.

00:34:57.820 We do this in a circumspect fashion.

00:35:01.460 We are authorized to use deadly force in given circumstances.

00:35:04.200 And also,

00:35:05.800 look,

00:35:06.060 I think this gives even deeper closure,

00:35:10.980 not full closure,

00:35:11.720 because you'll never get closure for losing your daughter or your husband,

00:35:15.480 you know,

00:35:15.720 in a suicide bombing.

00:35:16.920 But to see this man stand in a federal dock in a federal court in Northern Virginia,

00:35:22.340 gives a little bit more closure,

00:35:24.400 I think,

00:35:24.980 potentially to those families than saying,

00:35:27.620 yes,

00:35:27.840 he was killed 8,000 miles away and you'll never be able to see the video.

00:35:31.000 So let me,

00:35:33.860 let me ask you,

00:35:35.160 you know,

00:35:35.520 there,

00:35:35.920 we are now hunting down people.

00:35:40.580 I've heard you talk about terror cells here in the United States.

00:35:45.040 How bad is that situation?

00:35:46.680 Well,

00:35:48.900 look,

00:35:49.500 there's,

00:35:49.980 there's a thing in the U S military called red teaming where,

00:35:52.980 where an officer is tasked to think like the bad guy.

00:35:56.140 So if you're in the,

00:35:56.800 in the pay com,

00:35:58.000 AOR,

00:35:58.680 if you're in the Pacific,

00:35:59.700 you,

00:35:59.840 you,

00:36:00.120 you,

00:36:00.220 you,

00:36:00.480 you think like the,

00:36:01.400 you know,

00:36:01.680 communist China.

00:36:03.000 Yeah.

00:36:03.440 If you're in CENTCOM,

00:36:04.560 you're trying to think like ISIS or AQ.

00:36:06.440 Let's,

00:36:06.920 let's you and your listeners think like the bad guys for a second.

00:36:10.800 If you know that the president of the United States,

00:36:14.180 Joe Biden,

00:36:14.880 or the,

00:36:15.200 your putative president,

00:36:16.380 and Kamala Harris is,

00:36:18.420 you know,

00:36:18.660 fake borders are literally have dismantled the Southern border.

00:36:22.980 And you can clear yourself to enter into the United States with an app

00:36:27.660 that is paid for by the U S taxpayer,

00:36:30.000 where you put in your fake name and say,

00:36:32.680 yes,

00:36:33.180 I'm a refugee.

00:36:33.880 And that's all you need to step into America to get your $5,000,

00:36:37.760 your Obama phone,

00:36:38.760 and your ticket to wherever you want to go in America.

00:36:41.060 What are you going to do?

00:36:42.120 If you're ISIS,

00:36:43.280 Al Qaeda,

00:36:44.060 North Korean intelligence,

00:36:45.360 whether you're,

00:36:46.680 you know,

00:36:46.980 the SVR of,

00:36:48.080 of,

00:36:48.340 of the,

00:36:48.780 of Moscow,

00:36:49.920 whether you're the IRGC,

00:36:51.160 what are you going to do?

00:36:51.960 Of course,

00:36:52.480 you're going to flood the zone.

00:36:53.780 Now I can't go into the classified details of our response,

00:36:57.040 but I'll tell you one thing.

00:36:57.940 Bad guys are afraid of hardcore individuals.

00:37:03.620 And it starts with the alpha male behind the resolute desk.

00:37:07.020 And it goes all the way to Tom Homan,

00:37:09.480 straight out of central casting,

00:37:11.520 governor known,

00:37:12.220 Stephen Miller,

00:37:13.180 the genius behind our immigration policies and securing the Southern border.

00:37:17.020 Just the figures alone that of those we have physically deported,

00:37:21.720 the worst of the worst,

00:37:22.740 the gang bangers,

00:37:24.220 the people related to inimical regimes,

00:37:27.240 more than half a million,

00:37:29.540 Glenn,

00:37:30.200 have self-deported since January.

00:37:34.200 Tells you that,

00:37:35.160 um,

00:37:35.560 yeah,

00:37:35.980 you don't want to mess with Tom Homan,

00:37:37.900 governor known,

00:37:38.760 Stephen Miller,

00:37:39.560 president Trump.

00:37:40.520 So,

00:37:41.080 you know,

00:37:41.300 we have the crosshairs on the bad guys and we're getting them out of the

00:37:45.340 country.

00:37:45.700 So you can sleep far more soundly at night because the,

00:37:49.580 the A team is on the job,

00:37:51.360 whether it's smoking the jihadis outside of America or whether it's getting the

00:37:56.220 internal threats,

00:37:57.140 uh,

00:37:57.880 out of the United States.

00:37:59.440 Sebastian,

00:37:59.720 can I ask you,

00:38:00.220 this is probably,

00:38:00.900 this may be out of your purview,

00:38:03.240 uh,

00:38:03.780 to comment on,

00:38:04.920 but is the DOJ,

00:38:07.440 uh,

00:38:08.140 are,

00:38:08.980 are we,

00:38:09.700 are we really,

00:38:11.400 truly serious?

00:38:12.380 And cause I know we've been tracking,

00:38:14.260 we can tell you everybody who attended a Latin mass in the last 20 years,

00:38:17.380 but you can't tell me anything about the tides foundation or Antifa or

00:38:21.540 whatever.

00:38:22.300 Um,

00:38:22.860 we are so far behind on our Intel on that.

00:38:25.900 Are,

00:38:26.540 are we taking it seriously enough?

00:38:28.360 Do we have the resources on it?

00:38:29.900 And are we going to go after people who are funding?

00:38:33.880 The,

00:38:34.520 uh,

00:38:35.020 a,

00:38:35.400 uh,

00:38:35.720 a color revolution here in America?

00:38:38.700 Uh,

00:38:39.100 we are,

00:38:39.400 we are taking every threat to America,

00:38:41.420 especially those that are subverting or attempting to subvert our public from

00:38:45.240 the inside as seriously as a heart attack.

00:38:48.260 I can,

00:38:48.860 I can guarantee you this hand on heart.

00:38:51.960 Uh,

00:38:52.360 cash Patel is a friend of mine.

00:38:54.080 Dan Bongino is a friend of mine.

00:38:56.000 Scott Besant is a friend of mine.

00:38:57.580 And when Scott Besant,

00:38:59.200 one of the,

00:39:00.380 you know,

00:39:00.860 one of the surprise rock stars gives public statements saying,

00:39:05.660 we will follow the money to any organization that is funding unconstitutional

00:39:12.000 actions in the United States,

00:39:13.400 whether you're firebombing a Tesla dealership or plotting to kill friends of mine,

00:39:18.380 like Charlie Kirk.

00:39:19.400 When Scott Besant says that a man who literally doesn't sleep to revivify our economy,

00:39:26.220 when he says,

00:39:26.880 we're going to follow the money,

00:39:28.080 you can bet your bottom dollar that we will get to the bottom of Antifa.

00:39:33.600 And look,

00:39:33.960 how historic is it that we have designated Antifa as a terrorist organization?

00:39:39.220 That's all symbolic.

00:39:40.440 I can tell you right now,

00:39:41.440 we are working this day and night,

00:39:43.340 Stephen Miller's team,

00:39:44.300 the intelligence community,

00:39:45.300 the FBI,

00:39:46.260 the treasury.

00:39:47.040 So yes,

00:39:48.060 none,

00:39:48.280 none of this is play acting.

00:39:50.300 None of this is,

00:39:51.160 is,

00:39:51.660 you know,

00:39:52.100 pablum.

00:39:52.720 This is real.

00:39:54.000 Yeah.

00:39:54.220 I didn't think it,

00:39:55.160 I didn't think it was,

00:39:56.180 but it's nice to hear that.

00:39:58.360 Sebastian,

00:39:58.700 thank you so much for everything you're doing and thank you to your team.

00:40:01.460 Please pass on our gratitude to everybody on your team for all of the work that you guys have been doing.

00:40:05.280 Of course.

00:40:05.820 Appreciate it.

00:40:06.200 Of course.

00:40:06.660 And thank you for telling the truth and for,

00:40:08.360 you know,

00:40:09.200 saving with,

00:40:10.120 with Mr.

00:40:10.720 Barton,

00:40:11.220 the relics of our past so that we will never forget.

00:40:14.120 We are the greatest nation on God's green earth.

00:40:15.980 Thank you.

00:40:16.560 Sebastian Gorka.

00:40:17.260 I appreciate it.

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00:41:34.720 This is Glenn Beck.

00:41:52.940 It's fascinating what's happening.

00:41:54.660 And that was one of the most satisfying interviews I've done for a long time.

00:41:59.080 Brutal,

00:41:59.620 very brutal.

00:42:00.520 I don't think I've heard anybody speak about,

00:42:02.500 you know,

00:42:02.720 turning people into red clouds before it was very brutal,

00:42:06.520 but in a way when we're talking about terrorists,

00:42:09.100 very satisfying.

00:42:11.320 Okay.

00:42:11.760 I'm going to be with Megan Kelly on Saturday at Dickie's arena.

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00:42:20.720 I'm going to make a major announcement with Megan on stage on Saturday.

00:42:25.660 And,

00:42:26.240 and there was something else that I was supposed to tell you about,

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00:42:31.240 So I'm just going to tell you next,

00:42:33.140 next hour.

00:42:34.520 You don't want to miss,

00:42:36.240 because I,

00:42:37.280 I want to talk about the master ice tracker that our,

00:42:41.720 our own Congress is now putting together.

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00:43:50.520 There's a lot to talk about.

00:43:53.260 The master ice tracker proposed by the Democrats.

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00:45:03.220 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:45:27.260 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:45:33.220 Hello, America. You know, part of my job is to help you understand the news of the day,

00:45:39.000 to understand, you know, what it all means. Not just everybody can tell you what happened

00:45:43.720 yesterday. My job is to give you historic context and then tell you what that means

00:45:48.640 tomorrow. And I want to talk to you about civil war. This is, this is the worst possible thing

00:45:56.900 that could happen. A civil war, you know, doesn't end well for anyone on any side. If you want to be

00:46:06.180 Somalia, pray for a civil war. I personally would like not to be Somalia. I'd like not to be Haiti.

00:46:14.740 But I'm telling you, I'm going to give you a couple of stories here. And this is the kind of stuff,

00:46:21.200 and I believe it is intentional from the left. This is the kind of stuff that leads you eventually

00:46:28.780 no other option than civil war. So I want to warn you about something next. First, let me tell you

00:46:36.680 about pre-born. Every day somebody stands at that crossroad and it's going to change two lives

00:46:42.040 forever. Her life, the mom's life is going to change forever. She's alone, sometimes so alone

00:46:49.720 and everyone in her life is saying, this is the only option. It doesn't worry. It's not life anyway.

00:46:55.340 There's something in her and it brings her to a pre-born clinic. Thank God, not a, not a Planned

00:47:02.400 Parenthood clinic. She just wants some information. She just, and she really, she's thinking of the,

00:47:09.360 the only option is abortion. She walks into pre-born. They say, well, let's start with an ultrasound.

00:47:14.520 Let's see how far along you are. Once that ultrasound happens and mom sees the baby and sees

00:47:22.140 the heartbeat and hears the heartbeat, she realizes that's not just a, that's not a tumor.

00:47:28.500 It's not just a glob of something in there. That is a baby and that changes. But the problem is after

00:47:34.160 that, she still is alone. No one in her life is supporting her and she doesn't have the money.

00:47:39.760 She doesn't have the resources. She doesn't have baby supplies. She doesn't have support.

00:47:44.940 Pre-born helps mom there as well. We're saving two lives, two souls, the baby and the mom. It is such a

00:47:52.720 great, a great organization. Please, will you join? Pre-born.com slash back. $28 pays for a ultrasound.

00:48:00.940 $15,000 is what it takes to put a machine into a needy women's center. All tax deductible. Please do

00:48:10.340 what you can. I think this is one of the most important things we can do. Stand and choose life.

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00:48:20.940 We are facing, we are at a crossroads of, you know, and the Lord said, as, you know,

00:48:30.620 they're going into the promised land, choose life, choose life. That is what sets the Western

00:48:38.440 civilization apart. We choose life and we do it in every way possible. It is why we are the first

00:48:46.960 responders in the world. It's why we're so charitable. Something goes wrong. We care about

00:48:53.860 life. We care about people that we don't even know. Sometimes on the other side of the planet

00:48:59.520 and Americans have always felt that. This comes from the Western civilization. It comes from that

00:49:06.020 moment going into the promised land. Choose life. It's why we don't leave people behind. It's why we

00:49:13.020 offer aid to those people. If we're in a war and everything calms down and the battlefield is

00:49:19.960 there and all the injured soldiers, we offer aid to our enemies. We don't just shoot them in the head

00:49:25.240 because we choose life. We are losing this quickly. We are losing it in Canada is leading the world in

00:49:39.500 choosing death. I mean, what is happening with maid up there is truly frightening, truly frightening.

00:49:46.320 It is, I think, the second leading cause of death now, assisted suicide. And they're offering it for

00:49:53.040 babies, you know, teenagers who are depressed. You can just get, they can't keep up with the number of

00:50:01.660 people that they're counseling to die. That is a very bad sign.

00:50:10.720 We see it. We saw it this weekend with those who are at the No Kings rallies. The, the flippant

00:50:17.380 attitude of, yeah, I'm glad he's dead. I'd kill him myself if I could.

00:50:22.780 There's something deeply disturbing about that. And it's also deeply anti-Christian and deeply

00:50:36.840 anti-American. We choose life. If we disagree with each other, we argue it out. And then we go to

00:50:45.060 the ballot box. We don't kill each other. Let me tell you about a school teacher. Now, I warned in

00:50:53.080 2008, I was sitting next to Linda McMahon, what, Saturday night, we were at a dinner. And Linda

00:50:58.780 McMahon is sitting next to me. And I said, we were talking about the teachers unions. And I said,

00:51:04.460 I don't know if you remember this, Linda, but I remember in 2008, there was a little story in,

00:51:09.640 I think it was in the Los Angeles times. And I read this and I thought, Oh my trouble is coming.

00:51:16.840 The teachers unions in California had decided to remove one of their restrictions on teachers.

00:51:23.840 And one of the restrictions was you could not have ever been a part of the communist party or anything

00:51:31.120 that had, you could have never been involved with any group that had tried to actively overthrow the

00:51:37.700 United States of America. And they removed that plank. And I thought, why on God's green earth,

00:51:46.520 would you remove that? Now, this is before anybody thought, Oh, there's lots of communists and

00:51:50.800 radicals and revolutionaries. Okay. This is right at the beginning of the Obama administration.

00:51:56.600 And before anybody really understood what we were facing. And I saw that, I remember going on the air

00:52:02.500 and saying, Hmm, something's really wrong with the teachers unions. Look out. Why would you do that?

00:52:07.700 Well, we know why you did that. I mean, that's what brought Bill Ayers in and everybody else. And you can

00:52:13.340 just do whatever it is you want. And it was in California. I've told you about this teacher

00:52:20.600 in California three times now. I think the first time I talked about him was in 2010. And he was at

00:52:30.580 Fox and he was with La Raza, AKA the race. And I showed you something that he was saying. He was

00:52:40.920 saying at the time, um, this is not about immigration or immigrants. This is about the global struggle

00:52:48.760 against imperialism and capitalism. And I said, how's this guy teaching in high school? How is this guy a

00:52:56.260 teacher in high school? I then showed, showed you him last year or earlier this year? Time is just gets

00:53:04.240 away from me now, uh, during the LA riots. So it was in the last nine months, the LA riots. And he was one of

00:53:11.960 the organizers of union del burial. Um, and, uh, he was one of the guys who was out saying, um, we got to stop

00:53:23.940 ice. We got to track ice, whatever it takes on the streets. These are our streets. Okay. Revolutionary.

00:53:31.300 He's just won from the California teachers association, the human rights award.

00:53:38.540 Why am I bringing him up again? Cause it's not about that. I just want to show you that the, the teachers

00:53:44.080 unions are embracing him. Okay. He is now in the news today because he was at an anti ice protest

00:53:57.220 where he stood in front of cameras and microphone and said, we want the ice agents to know you're not

00:54:04.320 the only one with guns. You are threatening the lives of civil servants.

00:54:16.980 You are embracing a culture of death. You are saying, I don't agree with the law. And so I will

00:54:27.720 take the law into my own hands and I will start shooting civil servants, husbands, boyfriends, fathers.

00:54:37.940 I'll just shoot them because I disagree with them. And this man is still teaching in California.

00:54:47.720 Now, let me take this a step further.

00:54:55.800 Representative Robert Garcia at a press conference announced with democratic lawmakers

00:55:03.080 their intention to create a master ice tracker. Listen over the course of the next couple of weeks,

00:55:11.880 uh, the oversight committee will be launching on their website, a master ice tracker where we can,

00:55:18.920 we're going to be essentially tracking every single instance that we can verify that the community

00:55:24.180 will send, be able to send us information on. So I want to remind you that the killer, um, or the,

00:55:31.860 the guy who attempted to kill ice, uh, agents here in Dallas just a few weeks ago was using a tracker

00:55:39.360 exactly like that. Now, this is our democratic representatives from the democratic party that are now saying

00:55:50.960 they are putting a tracker together for ice agents. This is assisting premeditated murder.

00:55:59.720 I believe this is treason myself. You are going against the law

00:56:12.180 and you are now tracking federal civic, uh, civil servants. You just like saying, I'm going to put a

00:56:21.640 tracker on every police car. No, try this. Would you be allowed to put a tracker on every

00:56:29.440 Democrat in Congress and show where they are? I know it's verified. They're at this restaurant.

00:56:37.680 I verified that they're eating at this restaurant. I verified they're at their house right now.

00:56:43.920 I verified they're going to this meeting and they're going to go through this door. Would you be able to

00:56:48.960 do that? Of course not. Why? Because insane people would try to kill them.

00:56:57.700 Could I put a tracker on Air Force One? Could I put a tracker on Donald Trump and tell you his every move

00:57:05.460 and where he's going to be at what time all the time? I mean, we get close enough to that.

00:57:11.920 But you would not be able to put a tracker on the plane. Why? Because people could shoot it out of the sky.

00:57:19.340 And if you think he's Hitler, why not shoot it out of the sky?

00:57:34.700 This is lawlessness.

00:57:36.320 Can the president send in the National Guard to these cities?

00:57:43.860 Yes. By request of the governor.

00:57:48.240 Or if it is impossible because of the local community and local governments, state governments,

00:57:57.920 if it is impossible for the federal law enforcement officers to enforce the law.

00:58:06.900 You are giving him no other option and they want it that way.

00:58:13.980 They want him to send in the federal troops.

00:58:17.860 They want him. They need him to do that because that will prove to all of their lackeys,

00:58:24.040 all of the people who are not thinking at this critical time in our country.

00:58:29.880 It will give them proof. See, he is a dictator.

00:58:33.220 He's taking over law enforcement.

00:58:35.380 No. He is protecting the lives of civil servants

00:58:39.340 who are just doing exactly what the law is enabling them to do

00:58:44.500 and demanding that they do.

00:58:46.260 And you're targeting those fathers and mothers and sons.

00:58:53.760 You're targeting them.

00:58:57.520 What option does he have?

00:59:03.300 The left is creating this culture of death.

00:59:07.180 And if you honestly think, I mean, remember,

00:59:13.040 look at what they did when, if you got out of line with the left, they cancel you.

00:59:20.360 How many people were big on the left and then suddenly,

00:59:24.120 you think Bill Maher is going to parties with everybody?

00:59:27.140 They cancel you.

00:59:28.820 You're dead to them.

00:59:30.040 What do you think is going to happen?

00:59:36.780 You're on their side today.

00:59:38.620 You get out of line with people who are building a culture of death.

00:59:43.580 You read about the French Revolution.

00:59:48.800 It started all noble.

00:59:50.740 Let's get the king.

00:59:52.540 And before you knew it, they were turning on themselves.

00:59:56.520 You've betrayed the revolution.

00:59:58.620 You're a traitor to the revolution.

01:00:02.380 And they started putting their own people into the guillotines and chopping their heads off.

01:00:09.760 And I'm telling you right now, Chuck Schumer and the rest of the weasels in Congress,

01:00:14.580 the people who allowed these radicals in in the first place,

01:00:18.640 in 2004, I said, you cannot let Michael Moore into the presidential box at the Democratic Convention.

01:00:27.600 You can't do it because they will eat you in the end.

01:00:34.240 That wasn't a fat joke.

01:00:36.680 Well, it might have been at the time also a fat joke.

01:00:39.440 But people didn't see it coming.

01:00:43.480 And I'm telling you right now, Chuck Schumer is afraid of a literal guillotine being rolled in front of his office or his house.

01:00:50.680 Why are they not doing all of this with, you know, with the shutdown?

01:00:58.140 Why are they just absent and they're like, yeah, yeah, we're just going to keep going?

01:01:02.220 Why?

01:01:03.500 They're terrified of their own side because they know their own side will kill them.

01:01:10.520 And they just keep encouraging it.

01:01:18.660 They want a color revolution.

01:01:21.160 I did this show last night on this.

01:01:22.940 I've been talking to you about color revolution forever.

01:01:27.440 I just, oh, that I'd have the voice of an angel and I could shake the earth.

01:01:35.420 I wish more people could hear the warnings and pay attention.

01:01:43.740 But that is not my concern.

01:01:47.100 My concern is just to speak to you.

01:01:51.280 Please, please listen.

01:01:54.860 Color revolution is the plan.

01:01:59.220 Civil war is on the horizon unless we live like Christ and we stand for the truth.

01:02:12.780 Our own side is starting to fracture because you're buying into all of these crazy conspiracy theories.

01:02:22.060 It's not this difficult.

01:02:26.240 Restore the eternal principles.

01:02:29.220 Stop going down these roads of conspiracy theories that just divide you from me and me from that person.

01:02:39.160 We must stand together.

01:02:41.560 Let's just agree on the Bill of Rights.

01:02:45.240 Let's just agree on a constitutional republic.

01:02:48.660 Let's just agree God lives.

01:02:50.800 God loves us.

01:02:52.140 We have to serve him.

01:02:53.480 And the best way to serve him is by serving our fellow man with love and choosing life.

01:02:59.860 If we get lost in all of the other stuff, we are done.

01:03:06.180 Please hear me.

01:03:07.800 All right.

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01:04:33.180 Ten seconds, station.

01:04:39.600 It is crazy.

01:04:46.740 Let me play that teacher for you.

01:04:48.420 We have the cut.

01:04:49.600 I think it's cut 42.

01:04:51.300 Don't forget where you're standing.

01:04:53.760 This is South Central Los Angeles.

01:04:57.540 They are not.

01:04:59.940 They are not.

01:05:01.940 The only ones with guns in this city.

01:05:04.740 They're not the only ones.

01:05:06.100 And don't forget that.

01:05:06.960 And I don't say that because we're calling for violence.

01:05:10.200 I'm saying that because the people have every right to defend themselves against masked, unidentified gunmen with AR-15s and other military rifles.

01:05:21.600 The people have every right to defend themselves.

01:05:24.220 Stop.

01:05:24.680 They're cheering now.

01:05:25.780 These same people who wanted to take away your guns, they're now cheering for AR-15s in the hands of private individuals.

01:05:34.060 But notice that these are revolutionaries and communists.

01:05:39.200 The socialist rifle club of America.

01:05:42.880 The socialist, the communist rifle club.

01:05:46.220 The Antifa rifle club.

01:05:52.700 Know your enemy.

01:05:54.880 Know your enemy.

01:05:55.640 Enemy is anyone who refuses to see that all life is sacred.

01:06:05.680 This is Glenn Beck.

01:06:08.900 Okay.

01:06:09.700 Rough Greens.

01:06:10.380 Ever notice how your dog still thinks you're a hero?

01:06:12.320 I mean, even on your worst days when you're tired, you're busy, you're just trying to keep up.

01:06:15.940 That tail still wags.

01:06:17.500 You know, they never stop loving you.

01:06:18.800 But sometimes, without meaning to, you stop giving them everything that they need.

01:06:25.280 Most dog food is dead.

01:06:26.740 It's cooked until the good stuff is all gone.

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01:07:31.440 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:07:51.080 So, can we talk about what's happening in Venezuela?

01:07:54.420 I told you yesterday or the day before, I can't remember, find it on the podcast, but I laid

01:08:00.620 out what I thought was happening in Venezuela, that the president is changing the entire structure

01:08:05.560 of the world.

01:08:06.200 You know, the W.E.

01:08:07.200 You know, the W.E.F.

01:08:07.620 took 30 years to do it.

01:08:09.100 You know, the U.N.

01:08:10.540 took 30 years.

01:08:11.300 He's trying to do it in three.

01:08:13.120 And I've told you for years what they're doing is they've built this framework inside of the framework of the United States and the West.

01:08:22.400 And they have populated it with all of their little droids, all of their, you know, government officials all over the world.

01:08:29.980 And when when it's ready, they will collapse the system and it will fall into that safety net, which will be one global order.

01:08:38.800 We know it.

01:08:39.860 We've documented it.

01:08:41.000 It's absolutely true.

01:08:42.840 Say what you want.

01:08:43.900 We have the facts.

01:08:44.820 The president knows that that's not the American way.

01:08:51.620 And so he knows that we're in the same kind of situation, but he is dismantling that safety net and putting together infrastructure inside that I don't think people really understand that put American sovereignty back in its rightful place.

01:09:06.760 And he is preparing for things like war with China, which we should be doing.

01:09:12.720 I don't want a war with China.

01:09:13.940 I don't be the worst thing that could happen, but we should prepare because they're planning on it as well.

01:09:20.780 So just like we did with Russia, I don't want to roar with Russia, but can we have detente?

01:09:26.660 Let's not be sitting ducks.

01:09:28.460 And so that's what's happening in South America.

01:09:31.620 We are it's more of a target of Russia and mainly China to make sure that China gets the hell out of this hemisphere and the war on drugs.

01:09:43.060 I think is just a nice excuse.

01:09:48.340 I mean, yes, we have a problem with drugs.

01:09:50.180 And so we are doing that.

01:09:51.040 But I think this goes much, much deeper than the drug cartel.

01:09:54.700 This is what the president said yesterday in a press conference from the Oval about this.

01:09:58.820 Listen, this is a national security problem.

01:10:01.220 They killed 300,000 people last year.

01:10:05.840 Drugs, these drugs coming in.

01:10:07.560 They killed 300,000 Americans last year.

01:10:10.660 And that gives you legal authority.

01:10:12.840 We have a national security.

01:10:14.880 Really, I will say this.

01:10:16.760 When you look at the people we're dealing with, and we know them, we know the people coming in, we know the boats, we know everything else.

01:10:25.900 We're allowed to do it.

01:10:27.440 It's in international waters.

01:10:29.140 If we don't do it, we're going to lose hundreds of thousands of people.

01:10:34.720 Now, they'll be coming in by land a little bit more because they're not coming in by boat anymore.

01:10:39.060 There are no boats in the water.

01:10:40.320 There are no more boats.

01:10:41.160 We know the boat almost immediately.

01:10:43.260 You know, it's pretty unusual when you see somebody with a fishing rod and five engines on the back of the boat.

01:10:48.680 You know, you don't need that to go fishing.

01:10:50.140 Wait, wait, wait.

01:10:52.520 And we will hit them very hard when they come in by land.

01:10:56.100 And they haven't experienced that yet, but now we're totally prepared to do that.

01:11:02.060 Hmm.

01:11:03.140 What did he just say?

01:11:04.860 We're going to hit them very hard when they come in by land?

01:11:08.040 Mm-hmm.

01:11:08.580 Now, is that just border enforcement, or is he, like, saying we're going to war in some way?

01:11:14.380 I don't know.

01:11:14.780 How do you interpret that?

01:11:15.960 I mean, just believing and understanding, you know, what he's been up to over the past nine months.

01:11:25.820 I mean, I certainly, it seems to me that he's saying we're going to make sure they do not come in.

01:11:32.780 Mm-hmm.

01:11:33.640 You know, I don't know.

01:11:35.340 It's got to be some message he's sending to Venezuela specifically, though.

01:11:39.880 Okay, good, because I think this is what he's sending.

01:11:42.100 I think the overwhelming force, think of Maduro.

01:11:47.780 You're Maduro.

01:11:48.560 Put yourself in Maduro's shoes.

01:11:51.060 You have B-2 bombers flying over your head.

01:11:56.280 You have the United States Navy surrounding your country.

01:12:01.320 Mm-hmm.

01:12:01.660 And you have the president talking about this.

01:12:05.020 How well do you sleep at night?

01:12:06.780 Not very well.

01:12:07.600 Not very well.

01:12:08.220 Mm-hmm.

01:12:08.380 Why?

01:12:08.740 Well, you're worried that they could come in and invade or try to depose you.

01:12:14.760 Why else might you not sleep well at night?

01:12:19.900 You know, you don't have blackout blinds.

01:12:22.240 I don't know.

01:12:22.460 There's lots of different reasons.

01:12:23.160 Because you have people in your own country and possibly in your own government that you haven't liquidated yet,

01:12:32.640 that don't necessarily agree with you, that would like the power, that maybe don't want to be a communist country like Maduro, et cetera, et cetera.

01:12:42.340 Right.

01:12:42.700 And because there's big opposition forces in Venezuela.

01:12:46.080 In Venezuela.

01:12:46.700 So you're not only worried about the outside force, you're worried about the inside force, your own people who are close to you, killing you and toppling.

01:12:56.860 Let me, I brought some, I brought some stuff in.

01:12:58.640 I heard that quote and I, I asked for some stuff to be brought in.

01:13:02.420 This is from Project Valkyrie.

01:13:04.360 If you know anything about Project Valkyrie, tell a story.

01:13:07.940 It's one of the greatest movies of all time.

01:13:09.700 If it's on TV, I stop, I watch it.

01:13:11.840 I have to watch it no matter what, no matter what point it's at.

01:13:14.700 I know, me too.

01:13:15.640 It's, you know, Tom Cruise movie from, I don't know what year it was, but it's about the plot to kill Hitler.

01:13:21.940 And was it 44?

01:13:24.160 Right before.

01:13:25.040 43 or 44.

01:13:26.020 Let me see.

01:13:26.880 Yeah, I think it was 44.

01:13:27.980 I have the actual document.

01:13:29.680 This is the order from Himmler to round them up and kill them.

01:13:33.840 Yeah, November 44.

01:13:35.960 Right before the end of the war.

01:13:37.940 Yeah, and they came very, very close to succeeding.

01:13:41.180 They put in effect Operation Valkyrie, which was a Nazi-era plan to be able to, if something like this happened, to be able to protect the Nazi regime.

01:13:52.960 They kind of used that against the Nazi regime and tried to take it over.

01:13:58.020 And why did they do it?

01:13:59.780 Well, they had, there was a core of people who believed, separate cores in a way,

01:14:06.620 but the core of people that believed that Hitler was a bad guy and that this was, they needed to take him out.

01:14:13.360 Now, there's different beliefs in there.

01:14:15.040 Some of them were like, Hitler's doing things that are horrible.

01:14:17.000 We need to stop him.

01:14:17.880 Some of them were like, well, we're about to lose this war.

01:14:21.340 This is about to go against us.

01:14:22.760 We better be on the right side of this.

01:14:24.640 Correct.

01:14:25.000 And be able to say, hey, we tried to do something about it.

01:14:28.320 So now let me take that very idea.

01:14:31.160 Okay.

01:14:31.700 They failed.

01:14:32.920 This failed.

01:14:33.780 This is signed by Himmler.

01:14:36.320 You can see right there at the end.

01:14:37.700 Signed by Himmler.

01:14:38.400 And you can see where they tried to burn it as they, as the, as the Germans left.

01:14:43.400 Okay.

01:14:43.680 We have all the documents from Project Valkyrie.

01:14:47.260 We have the death warrant.

01:14:49.180 We have the war.

01:14:50.120 Remember the general who stood up and it was, he was part of it, but he wanted to kill.

01:14:54.580 Remember, don't kill them yet.

01:14:57.700 And I can't remember which general it was, but he was up on the balcony.

01:15:01.340 He was like, watch him die, you know, and he killed them all.

01:15:03.980 Now we have his signed by Himmler, his execution order as well.

01:15:08.600 Cause he got it in the end.

01:15:09.760 Yeah.

01:15:10.100 They figured it all out.

01:15:11.300 But, um, uh, what the president is doing right now is what the president of the United States

01:15:20.620 did in Germany at the same time.

01:15:23.860 We're coming.

01:15:25.860 Look at the overwhelming force that is coming.

01:15:29.500 We know who you are and you're going to capitulate.

01:15:35.220 Now we're prepared to go on ground.

01:15:41.560 Now in 1944, we were, and we had to, I believe what he was saying there yesterday is you try

01:15:48.900 to come across our border and we will kill you.

01:15:51.440 Okay.

01:15:52.560 Um, I don't think he's talking about ground troops in Venezuela.

01:15:56.360 Yeah.

01:15:56.460 That would be shocking, but you don't know.

01:15:58.820 Do you, you just don't know, right again, it's the president.

01:16:04.200 I've always said, I've wanted a president with a twitchy eye for our enemies, somebody

01:16:09.240 that our enemies go, I don't know.

01:16:12.220 I think that, I think he'll do it.

01:16:14.480 I think he might be crazy.

01:16:16.360 I think he might just do it.

01:16:18.080 Okay.

01:16:18.900 That's how you get people to capitulate.

01:16:20.800 I think what he's saying here, and I think all this whole thing is saying to the general

01:16:26.920 Becks of the time in Valkyrie, he was one of the guys who was going to be, you know,

01:16:32.320 he had to get out of the country at the very end because, um, he was going to be, uh,

01:16:38.680 picked up before project Valkyrie.

01:16:41.100 Uh, and he was one of the guys saying, we, we have a government, we have a government.

01:16:45.740 We're going to be able to, uh, uh, have when the, when the, uh, when Hitler is dead, we

01:16:54.280 will assume the roles of the government.

01:16:56.480 We will call the allies and say, you don't need to come in.

01:16:59.820 We got it.

01:17:00.520 We're your friends.

01:17:01.520 We're your friends.

01:17:02.560 We agree with you.

01:17:04.420 I think that's part of this strategy with Donald Trump.

01:17:08.160 I think he is trying to make everybody in that part of the world who is against the United

01:17:14.120 States, who's for communism, who is in bed with China, who is, who are dealing drugs.

01:17:19.200 I think he's sending a message.

01:17:21.480 We're going to kill you.

01:17:23.120 Now you can either help us on the inside and then we'll let you clean up the mess.

01:17:30.720 We'll let you turn the country around or you're part of the problem.

01:17:40.220 I don't know if that's true, but history always rhymes.

01:17:45.660 And, uh, and Donald Trump knows how to project power.

01:17:50.480 However, he knows how to, I mean, look what he did with, you know, little rocket man.

01:17:55.780 He didn't blow him up, but he kept him in a cage and made friends with him and made and

01:18:01.500 like kept him in a cage in this first term.

01:18:03.960 And people would like try to put him in a box on the stuff.

01:18:06.660 It's different strategies for each one of these people.

01:18:08.460 I mean, what he, the strategies he used for, uh, uh, little rocket man, totally different

01:18:14.780 than what he's done with Maduro and Maduro too.

01:18:17.640 You have to go back to the history of his first term where they outwardly tried to overthrow,

01:18:23.860 uh, Maduro.

01:18:26.220 And this is one of the very few things he agreed with Bolton on while he was working there.

01:18:30.460 But I mean, you know, Bolton said that was basically a coup attempt.

01:18:33.560 I mean, he's basically admitted that.

01:18:35.780 Uh, and you know, we, we basically said, Hey, we are now recognizing the opposition leader.

01:18:41.460 Like we, we went pretty far down that road already once.

01:18:44.380 This is something he's been focused on for a long time.

01:18:46.840 We cannot have an ally of Iran and China in Venezuela.

01:18:51.380 Just can't.

01:18:52.720 You cannot do it.

01:18:54.400 They have the terrorist camps with Hamas and Hezbollah, which is they send for final training.

01:19:00.100 They send them to Iran.

01:19:02.040 They train them on this Island right off the coast of Venezuela.

01:19:04.500 They send them back for final training in Iran that cannot stand not off the coast of America.

01:19:10.320 Most importantly, can I tell my wife that I need to watch Valkyrie again for work?

01:19:17.180 Yes.

01:19:17.560 Okay.

01:19:18.160 Yes.

01:19:18.440 I might have to do it as well.

01:19:20.000 I might have to do it as well.

01:19:20.940 We have to, we have her studying this.

01:19:22.560 I have to show you.

01:19:23.040 I don't know if you've ever seen this.

01:19:24.240 This is something else.

01:19:25.080 We keep it with the project Valkyrie stuff.

01:19:27.120 This is after we went in and we won the war and we, you know, we were looking for all the scientists,

01:19:31.980 but one of the other things we were looking for were all of his doctors.

01:19:35.000 We wanted to know what the hell was wrong with that guy for sure.

01:19:39.220 So we did an interview of all of his personal doctors.

01:19:43.780 This, this whole document is fascinating to read.

01:19:46.840 This whole document is all of the interviews with all of Hitler's doctors.

01:19:52.620 What was he taking?

01:19:54.080 What medicines did you give him?

01:19:56.020 What was the diagnosis?

01:19:58.220 You know, why was he twit his hand twitching?

01:20:00.960 What look at his face?

01:20:02.280 Why does his face have this line?

01:20:04.320 I mean, it has everything in it.

01:20:06.520 The only thing, and somebody took it out at some point and probably either kept it or sold it separately.

01:20:12.280 We, we spend so much time trying to find complete documents and we usually have to,

01:20:17.960 we usually have to go piece them all together and buy them separately.

01:20:22.020 Some, some, some things are sold separately.

01:20:24.280 In this one, somebody kept or, or sold separately.

01:20:29.040 We hadn't come up for auction yet.

01:20:30.960 We haven't found it.

01:20:31.700 The x-ray that was taken right after Valkyrie because remember he was hit.

01:20:38.600 So, I mean, this, this is the blood, this is Hitler's blood from that project Valkyrie bombing.

01:20:43.960 Um, and, uh, he had to have his brain check cause they thought he had a really bad concussion.

01:20:51.540 And so the only piece that is missing from that is his x-ray of his head from project Valkyrie.

01:20:57.280 And I can't wait till we find it might take us, you know, 15 years to find it, but we'll find it.

01:21:02.480 It's amazing.

01:21:03.440 Hey, this is a news.

01:21:04.440 I've, I've never read, you know, there's some history in here that I've never read.

01:21:06.980 Just so you, everyone knows.

01:21:08.460 Okay.

01:21:08.900 Okay.

01:21:09.100 Yes.

01:21:09.420 Yes.

01:21:09.840 Quote, Hitler did not complain of bladder or rectum weakness.

01:21:15.540 Okay.

01:21:15.980 So now we know.

01:21:16.900 Now we know.

01:21:17.800 There we go.

01:21:18.300 Well, we can check that one off our list.

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01:23:12.760 Um, I, you know, I don't know what she wants to talk to me about, but I'm, I was thinking

01:23:17.960 about bringing some things, uh, cause I know she really has a problem with transgender, you

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01:23:32.060 world, 1925 Berlin, uh, and the parallels of the Weimar Republic and the brown shirts

01:23:43.080 and everything else that is happening and the choice that the churches now have to make.

01:23:48.540 And if our churches don't wake up, they'll make the same choice they did in Germany.

01:23:52.520 And it will be very, very bad.

01:23:53.960 And I know, you know, this stuff really well, but correct me if I'm wrong.

01:23:56.340 Wasn't one of the, the basis of a lot of this stuff was it's science.

01:24:01.100 You can't question science.

01:24:02.420 I want to take her right from, I want to take her from, you know, the origin of the species,

01:24:08.680 uh, where science now said, yeah, there is, there are subspecies there.

01:24:16.040 You're not fully people.

01:24:17.920 Okay.

01:24:18.320 There are selected and favored races and how that was now science.

01:24:23.460 So now that grows these bigots and these haters that don't like blacks or whatever.

01:24:30.460 And they now say, you know, I, you follow science.

01:24:33.640 You might call me a bigot, but I'm following science.

01:24:36.920 You're not.

01:24:38.160 And that led to the whole progressive era that ended up being a absolute nightmare.

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01:24:45.620 I think so.

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01:27:03.500 Hello, America.

01:27:04.600 I have to tell you, I'm so excited for you to listen to my next guest, Charles Murray.

01:27:10.440 This guy is one of the bravest guys.

01:27:14.260 The courage of this man during his whole life has been remarkable.

01:27:18.840 I kind of liken him to the white Clarence Thomas, a guy who just believes what he believes

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01:27:42.540 I want to talk to him because he is taking religion seriously.

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01:29:32.740 Charles, what an honor to have you on again, sir.

01:29:35.140 Welcome.

01:29:35.880 Well, it's such a pleasure to be back with you, Glenn.

01:29:38.020 It's been a long time.

01:29:38.940 I know.

01:29:39.360 I know.

01:29:39.680 Thank you for all of the hits you have taken, and almost everything from the bell curve,

01:29:45.560 almost everything you have ever written has turned out to be absolutely true, and they

01:29:50.880 still beat you for it.

01:29:52.140 So, thank you for taking the beating for the truth.

01:29:55.120 We appreciate it.

01:29:56.880 Thank you.

01:29:57.320 But I've been a very lucky guy in all the important ways.

01:30:00.460 Yeah.

01:30:00.620 So, taking religious seriously, were you an atheist or an agnostic?

01:30:07.780 I was an agnostic, and I wasn't at all hostile to religion.

01:30:11.660 I thought religion had a lot of value for society, but it just wasn't important to me.

01:30:18.140 I didn't have strong beliefs, and I didn't seem to need religion.

01:30:24.320 I was doing just fine without it.

01:30:25.800 Thank you very much.

01:30:26.520 Right, and I think there's a lot of people that might feel that way, but now you say you

01:30:31.020 were wrong.

01:30:32.660 Why?

01:30:33.260 Why were you wrong?

01:30:34.980 Well, first, you've got to realize that I did not have a road to Damascus moment that

01:30:39.660 converted me.

01:30:41.060 I'm talking about 30 years of thinking about this.

01:30:44.020 Right.

01:30:44.360 I'll tell you how it got started.

01:30:46.980 My wife had our first baby in 1985, and she came to me after a couple of months, and she

01:30:54.600 said, I love this baby so much, I'm having a hard time figuring out where I stop, and she

01:31:01.060 starts.

01:31:01.900 And then she said something, which is a beautiful line, been quoted by others subsequently.

01:31:07.400 She said, I love her far more than evolution requires.

01:31:12.920 And you've got to understand, she is Oxford and Yale educated.

01:31:16.800 She's real smart.

01:31:17.620 She knows all about the evolutionary psychology, and she understands that part of evolution

01:31:23.700 depends on women loving their babies, because otherwise they don't pass on their genes.

01:31:29.620 But she felt that she was the conduit for something greater than that, and that was pointing her

01:31:36.520 toward God.

01:31:37.740 And so she set out on her own journey.

01:31:40.900 I kind of, that's an overused word on things, spiritual, but it was.

01:31:45.340 And I said, good for you, and I took care of our little girl on Sundays when she was trying

01:31:52.540 out various churches, and basically stood by for about 10 years until I realized, you

01:31:57.960 know what?

01:31:58.660 I'm missing out on something.

01:32:01.780 I have to tell you, my journey to God started by reading something from Thomas Jefferson,

01:32:07.760 and I think you can so relate it, because understanding your journey, I think, is exactly the way you

01:32:12.440 think.

01:32:13.400 Thomas Jefferson wrote something to his nephew, Peter Carr, and he was trying to teach him

01:32:17.960 what all the things he needs to do to be a well-educated, well-rounded man.

01:32:22.140 And the last topic he addressed was religion.

01:32:25.720 And he said, when it comes to religion, above all things, fix reason firmly in her seat, and

01:32:32.500 question with boldness even the very existence of God.

01:32:35.620 For if there be a God, he must surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear.

01:32:42.980 And I thought that was so profound.

01:32:45.420 It gave me permission to go, I don't know if there is a God, but if there is a God, everything

01:32:51.720 should point to him.

01:32:53.000 Everything would be, you'd be able to find the intelligent design some way or another.

01:32:59.220 And it just gave me the permission to not listen to people who say, oh, you're a heretic if

01:33:07.160 you don't believe X, Y, Z.

01:33:08.700 No, I want to learn it myself.

01:33:10.420 And I want to know it myself.

01:33:12.640 And there should be all kinds of supports in all walks of life and in all philosophies.

01:33:19.060 Would you agree with that?

01:33:20.800 Yeah, it's very similar to my route.

01:33:25.820 I'll just add on something else.

01:33:28.540 I think it is, in some sense, a route that is available to people like, I think, both of

01:33:35.320 us who do not have what I call the God gene.

01:33:39.120 God gene is a shorthand for kinds of abilities to have spiritual insights.

01:33:47.580 I think that some people, in fact, I'm quite confident of this because I've met a lot of

01:33:53.540 them, including my wife.

01:33:55.360 Some people have a talent for spiritual insight in the same way that some people have a talent

01:34:01.240 for being moved by music or appreciating great art or great literature.

01:34:06.380 I would agree with that.

01:34:06.800 It's a talent.

01:34:07.720 Yeah.

01:34:07.860 Not all of us have it.

01:34:09.040 Yeah.

01:34:09.440 I don't.

01:34:10.680 And I don't think you...

01:34:12.060 Yeah, no, I actually do, but I was at a point to where I didn't know, I was an alcoholic

01:34:19.140 and I didn't know what was true and what, you know, I realized everything I believe about

01:34:23.420 God was told to me.

01:34:25.240 And even those experiences, were those because I believed so deeply that they happened or

01:34:31.720 not?

01:34:32.620 I just wanted to know what was true and what was made up or what had been taught to me

01:34:39.400 for so long I just believed.

01:34:41.340 Does that make sense?

01:34:42.180 Well, yeah.

01:34:43.680 Something else that happened to me as I got started on this was that I realized that without

01:34:50.280 knowing it, I had my own secular catechism.

01:34:53.400 I mean, secular catechism meaning it's a pretty standard one for people, well-educated, successful

01:35:00.380 people for whom religion isn't important.

01:35:02.780 And it says things like, look, we got a hundred billion universes and we are one little planet

01:35:08.700 in a nondescript part of the universe.

01:35:11.460 And the idea that there is a personal God watching over us is kind of ridiculous.

01:35:17.140 That was one part of it.

01:35:18.160 Another part of it was that science has taught us that consciousness exists in our brain and

01:35:25.500 only in our brain.

01:35:26.440 And once consciousness stops, then everything else stops.

01:35:30.300 And that means that an afterlife is ridiculous.

01:35:33.820 And that kind of thing that I believed.

01:35:37.360 Oh, also, and that when you came to Christianity, you had these ancient texts that probably had

01:35:43.200 been changed dramatically over the centuries and bore no relationship to what a man called

01:35:49.060 Jesus of Nazareth actually said.

01:35:51.400 Okay.

01:35:52.300 That catechism was making a bunch of empirical assertions, but I hadn't checked any of them

01:35:58.960 out.

01:35:59.620 Yes.

01:36:00.000 They were just sort of, they were just sort of the common criticism of religion that

01:36:04.380 was around.

01:36:05.600 And so a great deal of my beginning was, okay, let's sort of look and see how sure I can be

01:36:12.500 that these statements are true.

01:36:14.200 And that produced a whole bunch of changes in my thinking.

01:36:18.860 So can we take just those three?

01:36:21.540 Can you take those and show us what you learned and what changed?

01:36:24.540 Sure.

01:36:24.800 The first one, and this is as close to a road to Damascus moment that I've had, was when

01:36:31.860 I read a little book called Just Six Numbers in the early 2000s.

01:36:37.900 It was written by an astrophysicist, British astrophysicist, Martin Rees.

01:36:43.720 He's not a religious man himself.

01:36:45.480 What he gave in Just Six Numbers were six examples of what is called, sorry for all the

01:36:53.040 technical terms I'm dropping, the anthropic principle.

01:36:57.640 And this is the finding in physics that the likelihood that we live in a universe that

01:37:03.700 permits life are phenomenally small.

01:37:07.500 Yes.

01:37:08.020 By phenomenally, I mean literally one in trillions.

01:37:12.300 Here's what I mean.

01:37:13.160 At the moment of the Big Bang, which is now Consensus Physical Science, at the moment of the Big Bang, there

01:37:23.040 were a whole variety of relationships that if they were not exactly what they were, we would

01:37:31.580 have a universe of black holes or radiation.

01:37:34.400 In order for galaxies to form and planets to form, you had to have, for example, a balance

01:37:42.780 between the forces holding together the atom versus the force of gravity, or else you would

01:37:49.100 have a situation in which the stars would burn out too quickly to form civilizations.

01:37:57.680 I'm not going to go into the detail and take it as a summary that we're talking maybe a

01:38:05.260 dozen or two dozen parameters that are arbitrary and all had to fit together for us to live

01:38:13.720 in a universe.

01:38:14.420 Now, that gives us three choices.

01:38:16.580 We can either say that we bought a lottery ticket and won a trillion chance, which is not

01:38:25.460 very satisfactory, or we can say that actually there are millions of universes, as one branch

01:38:33.100 of physics is trying to claim, but certainly has not demonstrated.

01:38:37.060 I find that to be far more outlandish than the idea of a god.

01:38:42.920 And the third one is that a force intentionally created a universe that permits life.

01:38:55.460 And I might as well call that force god.

01:38:58.420 And that, for me, was a huge step forward, because that's way different from Richard

01:39:03.880 Dawkins' indifferent, planless universe.

01:39:07.560 Well, if you look at it, because I went down this same road that you did.

01:39:11.440 It's funny.

01:39:13.160 When you look at the exactness of everything, you know, a one-degree temperature change in

01:39:19.280 space and the whole thing starts to collapse.

01:39:20.900 I mean, everything is so precise.

01:39:22.720 You look at our bodies.

01:39:24.320 How this came together by happenstance is insane.

01:39:29.020 It's insane to think that that's the way it happened.

01:39:33.200 But more importantly, the Big Bang.

01:39:35.360 I mean, I think this was originally a Christian idea, the Big Bang.

01:39:38.480 And then it was kind of hijacked and turned on itself.

01:39:42.480 But the idea of the Big Bang is, okay, it started like this, but who lit the match?

01:39:49.280 What was before it?

01:39:50.760 What was, as my father used to say, what was first cause?

01:39:53.660 Exactly.

01:39:56.720 And you were right, by the way.

01:39:59.040 One of the reasons that physicists really resisted the Big Bang theory when it was first

01:40:05.680 put out is it sounds like they're just putting a scientific gloss on Genesis.

01:40:12.460 Yes.

01:40:12.800 Yes.

01:40:13.460 Let there be light.

01:40:14.780 Yes.

01:40:15.040 And as of 1920, before the Big Bang theory had started to develop, that was just anathema

01:40:24.720 to think that the universe started at a specific moment in time.

01:40:29.540 It just sounded too much like a creation.

01:40:31.960 Well, that's the way it worked out.

01:40:33.660 All right.

01:40:34.240 Let's take the second one here.

01:40:35.440 Give me 60 seconds.

01:40:36.340 We'll be back.

01:40:37.220 You really, if you are somebody who takes, you know, a search for God seriously, this

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01:42:06.440 Welcome to the table.

01:42:07.760 Ten seconds.

01:42:08.400 Station.

01:42:08.600 Okay, so Charles, you said there were there were three things.

01:42:21.820 What was the second thing?

01:42:24.700 Unconsciousness.

01:42:26.060 And this was, you know, I took it for granted.

01:42:30.900 I'm a child of the Enlightenment.

01:42:32.420 And as so many of us are, where else could consciousness exist except the brain?

01:42:38.400 Of course, it's in the brain.

01:42:39.600 And of course, when the brain shuts down, consciousness shuts down.

01:42:43.500 Well, it turns out there's a lot of very good evidence that is not true.

01:42:48.000 It takes a couple of forms.

01:42:50.820 I think the most impressive and hardest to refute forms are near-death experiences.

01:42:56.600 And almost everybody's heard about near-death experiences by this time.

01:43:00.780 And a lot of them are extremely well documented.

01:43:05.260 This is when people, their hearts have stopped.

01:43:08.700 Their respiration has stopped.

01:43:10.380 They are clinically dead.

01:43:11.700 And they report, first, being able to see what's going on and the attempts to resuscitate them,

01:43:18.300 including specific idiosocratic events that there should be no way that they know.

01:43:24.040 And then there's the famous light at the end of the tunnel and other things that occur

01:43:29.360 in the course of the experience that we can't verify.

01:43:33.100 But the point is we can verify a lot of the things that they are reporting that they are able to see,

01:43:39.000 usually from above, that it's going on while they're in the hospital.

01:43:44.400 Well, that certainly makes it difficult to say that consciousness can't exist without the brain.

01:43:49.420 But there's another one.

01:43:51.400 This is less well-known.

01:43:53.440 It's called terminal lucidity.

01:43:55.620 And it involves people who have advanced dementia,

01:43:58.720 haven't recognized their spouse or children for years,

01:44:02.920 have not said a word for years.

01:44:04.640 I mean, sadly, many listeners and in my own life have had parents or other friends who suffered from dementia.

01:44:14.180 They suddenly, about a day or so before they die, in some cases, are back.

01:44:21.360 They may be back for 10 minutes.

01:44:23.000 They may be back for an hour.

01:44:24.860 But by back, I mean they recognize their family members.

01:44:29.400 They have memories.

01:44:31.020 They talk about memories, ask questions.

01:44:33.180 They exhibit personality characteristics that they had before.

01:44:39.040 And these are witnessed not only by the relatives,

01:44:42.400 but oftentimes medical personnel are also in the room

01:44:45.780 and recording clinical descriptions of what's going on.

01:44:49.300 These are extremely well-documented.

01:44:51.920 Explain to me again how this is happening

01:44:54.780 if they do not have brains that are functionally able to have co-organized thought.

01:45:01.000 So, all of that leads one to say, and in my case to say it with a little bit of trepidation,

01:45:08.820 I just might have a soul after all.

01:45:12.060 Wow.

01:45:12.700 And the third?

01:45:14.700 The third involves the New Testament.

01:45:17.160 There was a very influential revisionist force that basically trashed the New Testament

01:45:25.120 over the course of the 19th and 20th centuries

01:45:28.120 so that they were essentially saying you can't trust a thing in the New Testament

01:45:33.300 as really reflecting the words of Jesus of Nazareth,

01:45:36.400 let alone trust any of the specific accounts of the miracles or anything else.

01:45:41.700 And there is a school of scholarship that has been gaining momentum in the last 20 or 30 years,

01:45:52.200 which is pushing back on that with a lot of new research that I find very impressive.

01:45:59.340 And I think it's impressive on a couple of scores.

01:46:02.140 One is, I think that it is pushing back the dates of the Gospels

01:46:10.120 to much earlier than they've ordinarily been dated.

01:46:14.000 You know, most of them have been dated toward the end of the first century,

01:46:17.060 which is quite a while after the crucifixion.

01:46:19.820 It seems much more plausible to me with the evidence that's come to light

01:46:23.340 that we're talking the 40s and 50s when they were composed.

01:46:27.940 Ten years to 20 years.

01:46:29.380 Yeah. And also, a lot of the revisionist claims of anonymous authors and editions and so forth

01:46:38.940 that were added completely apart from anything that really was in the Bible,

01:46:45.960 well, a lot of that has been debunked by some fascinating research,

01:46:52.080 which documents the ways in which whoever wrote the Gospels knew an awful lot about first century Judea and Galilee.

01:47:01.560 There's just an awful lot of specifics that they get right, that the discredited Gospels don't get right.

01:47:09.980 Okay, so...

01:47:11.120 Hang on, just a second.

01:47:12.760 Let me take a quick break, and I want to continue this,

01:47:15.140 but I also want to ask you about the resurrection.

01:47:19.020 How does a guy like you deal with something like the resurrection of Christ?

01:47:23.900 I don't know, you know, where you stand on that, but I'm anxious to hear what you found on that.

01:47:30.480 We'll go there.

01:47:31.360 Next.

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01:49:01.060 Charles Murray is a policy analyst, MIT, Harvard.

01:49:21.460 In 1984, he published Losing Ground, which changed everything about the war on poverty.

01:49:29.800 And then he wrote The Bell Curve, which was highly controversial, that changed everything.

01:49:37.040 Coming Apart in 2012, which was absolutely spot on accurate.

01:49:42.340 I mean, he is prolific and way ahead of the curve and has spent his life, you know, just under attack from elites.

01:49:55.320 Although, you know, in some ways he is an elite.

01:49:58.260 He thinks this way.

01:49:59.180 He is really well educated, et cetera, et cetera.

01:50:01.760 But he just looks for truth.

01:50:03.620 He's now got a new book out called Taking Religion Seriously.

01:50:06.700 We were talking about these three things that he needed to take on himself.

01:50:11.160 And the last one that he was talking about was the truth of the writing of the Gospels, the time period that they were in, the accuracy of the Gospels, who actually wrote them.

01:50:20.920 And he was talking about how there is new, good scholarly work being done that maybe those Gospels were written earlier than we've thought in the past.

01:50:35.620 Charles, I'm so sorry to interrupt you on that.

01:50:39.980 Do you want to finish that?

01:50:41.020 Because I want to go on to the Christ resurrection, which I think goes in there.

01:50:46.560 But you lead.

01:50:47.640 No, let's go directly to the resurrection because that's one of the most fascinating aspects of this whole work.

01:50:57.660 The resurrection should be sort of the easiest to disregard.

01:51:01.820 I mean, it is such an implausible claim.

01:51:04.580 And it happened so long ago.

01:51:07.000 And yet the data, and you can talk about the data because we know a fair amount,

01:51:13.300 really makes it very hard to avoid concluding that something happened of extraordinary power at the time of Easter.

01:51:23.640 And the reason I say that is that you had the execution by one of the most humiliating, gruesome ways that a leader could be executed.

01:51:35.020 You had the persecution of his followers that were coming.

01:51:39.400 These were not disciples.

01:51:42.160 They were illiterate manual workers.

01:51:45.220 They were not market researchers or publicists or anything else.

01:51:50.500 So here they are.

01:51:52.360 Their world has been torn down around them.

01:51:56.460 They are devastated, presumably.

01:51:58.120 And they're also very scared.

01:52:01.500 And then a couple of weeks later, they are utterly energized and preaching a risen Christ and absolutely confident.

01:52:11.820 Now, that kind of transformation does not happen without an extraordinary stimulus.

01:52:18.060 And coming up with an extraordinary stimulus that doesn't look like the resurrection is a problem.

01:52:24.020 And furthermore, you have these same disciples going to their deaths, often decades later, often under torture, still insisting that Christ rose from the grave.

01:52:37.240 Now, this makes it hard to just dismiss the resurrection out of hand.

01:52:44.020 And then, of course, you have this thing called the Shroud of Turin that some of your listeners will know about and others won't.

01:52:52.220 I was just there, spent three or four days with all the experts in the world on the Shroud of Turin.

01:52:58.840 And you walk away going, this is real.

01:53:01.720 This is absolutely real.

01:53:04.480 That's my conclusion as well.

01:53:06.840 And I think one of the more interesting sections of the book, because I do have a fairly detailed recounting of the kinds of what things that make this object absolutely baffling.

01:53:20.700 So here's where I stand on it.

01:53:24.960 They have a new method of dating, which puts the Shroud back a couple of thousand years, appropriately for if it were genuine.

01:53:34.000 Whereas before there was a carbon dating that said it was a medieval cloth, that carbon dating had terrible problems.

01:53:42.420 Mainly, they had a segment of the cloth, which was an add-on.

01:53:47.780 Yeah.

01:53:47.880 And so I'll tell you, if that dating is confirmed, or the new dating is confirmed, I'm going to have a very hard time saying to myself that it did not contain the body of a resurrected Christ.

01:54:04.000 And that's just the way it is.

01:54:08.140 So what does this mean to you?

01:54:12.920 Because, you know, we started with, you know, I thought I didn't need God.

01:54:16.740 I was wrong.

01:54:17.860 What is the importance of knowing all of this in today's world and in our society?

01:54:24.500 Why is this important?

01:54:25.520 I think I need to talk to two different audiences when I do this.

01:54:33.140 The first is people who have never taken religion seriously.

01:54:38.240 And, Glenn, my suspicion is that the first part of the book where I talk about an intentional universe and consciousness independently of the brain,

01:54:48.520 I think they'll be fairly receptive to that.

01:54:52.300 And I think these people, but a lot of them will have problems when we get into the specifics of Christianity.

01:54:59.000 So to this first audience, I'm saying, look, you need to take on seriously the degree to which the relationship between science and religion has flipped.

01:55:11.320 For a long time, science was explaining things that people had previously attributed to God.

01:55:20.060 That happened for about four centuries.

01:55:22.520 Over the last century, science has been discovering new things we never knew existed for which religion has answers that science does not.

01:55:31.280 That's a fundamental change that you need to be aware of.

01:55:35.000 And the second thing is I want people to realize the extent to which the Enlightenment cut us off from a wealth of wisdom by a variety of profoundly spiritually sensitive thinkers that occurred around 600 B.C.

01:55:54.420 And so that's not just the Old Testament being put together.

01:55:59.040 You had Taoism.

01:56:00.180 You had Buddhism.

01:56:01.520 You had some very, very wise people have insights about the nature of the universe and the nature of the human condition that after the Enlightenment, smart people who get a big education have tended to just never access.

01:56:18.000 And it's important to access that because it can deeply enrich your understanding of the universe and your place in it.

01:56:26.400 And then if you're willing to go more specifically into Christianity, I have found that, for example, I feel in my life the qualities of God's love and also the concept of grace, forgiveness of sins.

01:56:45.320 And I feel this at a level which is now no longer just intellectual, but I feel it as a reality in my life.

01:56:54.340 And that's a lot.

01:56:55.660 And this kind of having this kind of enrichment of your life is not as dramatic as a sudden conversion in which you are an evangelical Christian wholeheartedly and with no reservations whatsoever.

01:57:10.060 But I assure you, it is well worth the effort to do.

01:57:15.320 I would completely agree with that.

01:57:17.900 You know, I've often said I don't understand how scientists don't see the – I mean, if God exists, he is the greatest mathematician and greatest scientist ever.

01:57:33.060 And I don't know why both sides try to separate religion from science.

01:57:41.320 They must fit hand in glove.

01:57:44.520 Do you agree with that?

01:57:45.600 Yes, and I also agree with Thomas Aquinas, who a long time ago said humans must understand that God takes pleasure in our understanding his universe, which is, by the way, very different from Islam, that God wants us to understand his universe.

01:58:12.600 God loves it when scientists are discovering new facts about the universe.

01:58:17.560 And similarly, it's very clear that the notion of a rational God was instrumental in creating a science.

01:58:27.580 So, I agree with you, I don't agree with Stephen Jay Goulds, who had said their non-overlapping magisteria, science and religion.

01:58:36.960 I think that as time goes on, they are blending rather than maintaining their antagonism.

01:58:43.900 Why did you say that about Islam, where you said un-lawful?

01:58:48.520 Oh, because Islam, they consider it – it's considered denying God's power to try to establish laws that must be – God, the universe obeys.

01:59:00.920 You are limiting Allah's power to – because he sustains the universe on a second-to-second basis.

01:59:09.580 The universe does not have an existence independently of his constant sponsorship of us, as it were.

01:59:16.800 So, it's just like you aren't supposed to have pictures that depict anything religious in Islam.

01:59:25.800 Very different – very different mindset.

01:59:27.560 How is your understanding of religion, and do you feel that it is going to play, or needs to play, a more important role in man's future, especially with what's coming with AI?

01:59:47.740 What are we facing, and how important is this journey?

01:59:51.460 I think one of the most important results of a resurgence of religion will be an understanding that morality is fundamentally grounded in absolutes,

02:00:09.900 in truths that are not subject to situational ethics and the rest of it.

02:00:15.040 C.S. Lewis makes a very powerful case for a moral law that is essentially divine in origins and that provides a bottom to our ethical decisions.

02:00:27.960 If there is one thing that I think we are seeing over the last 50 years, it is the degree to which secular humanism does not have staying power.

02:00:37.100 That, from a moral perspective, time and again, they get on slippery slopes, whereby something that sounds fine to begin with, such as assisted suicide for people who are desperately ill and in great pain,

02:00:52.900 suddenly, you know, slowly turns into euthanasia that is more and more broadly available and is applied sometimes when it's not clear that the people really want to be euthanized.

02:01:05.460 It's that kind of slippery slope that the moral law helps us avoid.

02:01:12.300 I think secular humanism is not enough to sustain the role that religion plays in supporting civil society.

02:01:24.260 The last question, I've only got about a minute on this.

02:01:27.420 I don't know if you can answer it in a minute, but we are headed for, you know, cataclysmic stuff if we don't turn around.

02:01:34.340 Is the West savable with these understandings?

02:01:41.080 I find the left utterly incomprehensible recently.

02:01:47.940 I don't see – I'm a social scientist, and I look at the social sciences now, and they say, I don't think they're redeemable.

02:01:55.300 I think that they're deeply corrupt and just getting worse.

02:02:01.040 So short answer, since I've only got a few seconds, is on this score, I am deeply pessimistic.

02:02:10.240 Charles, it is an honor.

02:02:12.140 It really is an honor to talk to you, and I hope we get a chance to spend some more time on this in the future.

02:02:17.620 I really appreciate it, and congratulations on the book and on everything you've done in your life.

02:02:22.960 Thank you.

02:02:24.960 And I enjoy your work very, very much, Glenn.

02:02:27.600 That's an honor.

02:02:28.160 Thank you very much.

02:02:29.060 Charles Murray, the author of the book, Taking Religion Seriously.

02:02:34.340 Pick it up today.

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02:03:57.120 I don't know about you, but that sounds like a solid plan to me.

02:04:01.480 This is Glenn Beck.

02:04:24.580 Well, you could go the no Kings way.

02:04:28.800 That's the way the left is going.

02:04:30.520 Or you could go the no Kings but Christ way.

02:04:34.400 Sounds better.

02:04:35.260 What would Jesus want you to do?

02:04:36.740 I say he'd want you to go to glennbeck.com.

02:04:41.340 Go to glennbeck.com right now and get your no Kings but Christ t-shirt.

02:04:44.760 Wait, really?

02:04:45.400 It's shorthand.

02:04:46.560 I think you died a day in that t-shirt.

02:04:48.800 It's shorthand.

02:04:49.320 You go up to the desk, the big desk in the sky, and Peter's like, come on in.

02:04:54.880 You're wearing the t-shirt.

02:04:56.580 I'm just saying.

02:04:58.380 So it's not necessarily true.

02:05:00.600 I'm just thinking this out from a theological sense for a moment.

02:05:05.340 You think that's theologically unsound?

02:05:08.000 No.

02:05:08.600 Well, my point, I think what you just suggested, if you're saying I have to go buy a t-shirt

02:05:13.200 at glennbeck.com, that is theologically unsound.

02:05:16.460 Because what you're saying is, if you die in the t-shirt, they'll know you're one of

02:05:20.800 the good people.

02:05:21.500 Yeah.

02:05:21.860 So you need to buy multiple t-shirts to have different ones on every day.

02:05:25.700 You don't ever know when you're going to die.

02:05:27.400 You don't know when you're going to die.

02:05:28.360 You wear the same shirt every day?

02:05:29.900 Get one so you can wear one to bed, too.

02:05:32.360 You are exactly right, Stu.

02:05:34.540 And the coffee cup.

02:05:36.080 I mean, you know, or the hat.

02:05:38.640 You really need all of it.

02:05:39.840 But let's say you're down in the middle of the night, you're, for some reason, butt

02:05:44.620 naked, but you want a cup of coffee.

02:05:46.900 You die.

02:05:47.720 You're holding the No Kings But Christ mug.

02:05:50.720 I'm just saying.

02:05:52.260 I'll also say, you don't want to take scorching hot beverages when you're not wearing clothing.

02:05:56.140 You just don't know what's going to spill and where it's going to spill.

02:05:58.800 So that's just another great tip.

02:06:01.180 Theologically, I think that's...

02:06:02.580 I think some might quibble with the selling of merchandise.

02:06:08.420 ...and salvation at the same time.

02:06:12.560 There might be some quibbling going on.

02:06:16.200 It's a great message to send, though, I will say.

02:06:17.700 And it is needed at this time.

02:06:19.140 That, I will say.

02:06:19.980 No Kings.

02:06:20.760 No Kings But Christ.

02:06:22.320 Get the merch now.

02:06:23.220 See you at glennbeck.com.

02:06:24.520 This is Glenn Beck.

The Glenn Beck Program - October 23, 2025

The Left Is LYING About Trump’s White House 'Demolition' ｜ Guests： Sebastian Gorka & Charles Murray ｜ 10⧸23⧸25

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