The Media's Frankenstein? | Guests: Bill O’Reilly, Amb. Samuel D. Brownback & Dave Isay | 11⧸30⧸18
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1 hour and 50 minutes
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164.75575
Summary
Glenn Beck calls out President Trump for lying to the American people about his dealings with Russia. He also calls out the media for how they react when he says he has never had dealings with the Russians. Glenn also asks the question: Why does the press care so much about what the President says?
Transcript
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All right, here's some of the questions that we should have our president asked today.
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Mr. President, Mr. President, how was your meeting with China's president?
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Mr. President, Mr. President, have you ended the trade war?
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Mr. President, Mr. President, insert anything relevant here that might show that we've solved any problems that actually will affect us.
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Instead, we're going to have, Mr. President, Mr. President, can you tell us what you said to Robert Mueller?
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Mr. President, Mr. President, you told the American people that you've never had any dealings in Russia,
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and now yesterday you came out and said, yeah, I was trying to build a Trump Tower in Moscow at the time.
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Mr. President, Mr. President, can I ask you this?
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Because what we have to say is, no, it doesn't matter.
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But we don't say that because by saying that, then the press has more ammunition to come after you.
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Nobody, to the best of my recollection, had any dealings with the Russians?
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We have now the signed document where you signed off on a letter of intent to build a Trump tower in Moscow.
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While you were saying there was nothing going on.
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Nobody's going to, nobody, nobody, nobody would have had a problem if you would have just come out and said, yeah, I'm trying to build a Trump tower.
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So now we've got really, really important meetings.
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The President Xi is, this is one of the most important meetings.
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This could decide whether or not the world goes to war in the next two years.
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Now, the President said last night, you know, that he's not sure he even wants to do a deal with President Xi.
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Because of all the tax revenue coming in from China for because of the trade, you know, embargo or the trade tariffs.
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Now, I'm hoping that that is just hyperbole getting ready to meet.
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Well, I'm not really interested in that car over there that I've been drooling over for the last two years.
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I'm not really in the market for the car right now.
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Or I just happen to be, well, I live across town and I drove 45 minutes in traffic to get to your car lot, but I'm not really that interested.
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But the one thing that I have learned is absolutely nothing, nothing this President said or says or tweets should be discussed.
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If we were just looking at what this President does, he'd be pretty popular.
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But because of what the President says, people get their panties in a bunch.
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Look at how much, look at how much, every time he tweets, the press goes crazy.
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What's so infuriating about this is the way the press reacts every single time.
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Once again, I read two stories from two people at CNN that said, you know, this is the first time that I felt we really have him here.
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When he was on the bus talking about, you know, touching women?
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It's like a prostitute constantly, over and over, losing their virginity.
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I think Madonna wrote a song about that at one point.
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And it's amazing the press can continue to do it.
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I mean, and the thing is about what Trump says and tweets, he himself says over and over again that he's negotiating.
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We're not supposed to, you know, talk like people will talk when we were complaining about tariffs.
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A lot of people will say, well, he's just negotiating.
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And, you know, I mean, I think that one he has implemented.
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But the point is, he says he's negotiating all the time.
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So if he's negotiating, he has some, right, some agenda to win some battle he's trying to do behind the scenes or whatever.
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Well, there's no reason to listen to those words specifically.
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And, you know, look, it's a double standard because I would not have accepted that from Barack Obama because when he said things, I wanted to hold them to them.
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But, you know, Trump makes an art a form of it.
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He's not even – I mean, this is a great point in that his supporters should not have to deal with trying to defend these things.
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Because he didn't even do anything wrong trying to build – his business is building towers in other countries.
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Do you remember – do you remember how many times when I was at Fox and we were at the very height of all the controversy around me, how many times I came on the air and I said, I'm really sorry because I know it makes it hard to defend me?
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I used to say that all the time because I would say something stupid and it would be taken out of context or whatever or it was just plain stupid.
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And I knew that it caused you trouble to defend me.
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And that's what I'm – I'm begging the president.
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Please, please, if you look at Trump's policies, he's a good president.
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The trade thing is kind of a big one that's starting to really scare the hell out of me.
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If you look at what he says about Russia, you would think, oh, well, he's way too friendly with Vladimir Putin.
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A lot of people believe – you see that and it's notable.
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But if you look at what he does, his policies are pretty hawkish against Russia.
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The administration has taken a lot of major steps against Russia through this period.
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This has not been a presidency that has kissed the butt of Vladimir Putin.
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Just because he said a few nice things in press conferences does not mean that the actions of the administration go down that road.
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And I think if you realize that Trump is a guy who – he's a big talker, right?
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He's saying that, you know, I have the best of everything in the world.
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And, you know, for years when he was back in the entertainment days, people would know, okay, he's saying that, but it's bluster.
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We know he's not actually meaning it's the biggest or best in the world.
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It's like he – because he says something in public or he says something to the press or he's fighting with the press and says something defensive like I have absolutely no business with Russia, you can't take it seriously.
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Because you don't know what the truth is until – that's why we've been saying the Mueller thing.
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Let's just wait for it to come out and we'll read it.
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And here's what liberals and the press don't understand.
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They look at us, and this is what's so frustrating is because there's – look, 70% of this nation sick to death, sick to death of this crap.
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I think it's actually 80% that they're exhausted by this.
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They just want everybody just to shut up and do their job, okay?
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And what the press doesn't understand is that there are many people in America that are so tired of the lies of the press, not just the Trump lies, but the lies that have gone on forever and the double standard forever.
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George Bush knew about the towers when 60% of Democrats believed that in 2005, that George Bush had something to do with 9-11.
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Now, of course, they deny it and say we're not into conspiracy theories.
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And that came from a press not being a bulldog on that stuff.
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It's why I went on the air and said we're going to get to the bottom of the FEMA camp thing.
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I'm going to find out if they're happening or they're not.
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I'm going to go in with an open mind and I'm going to say, are they happening or not?
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I get bashed as a conspiracy theorist because I said, are they happening or not?
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And quite honestly, I was pretty sure the answer was no, unless Dick Cheney had been building underground camps.
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But look at the way the press approached the birtherism stuff, right?
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They went out and they did segments on it, debunking it every day.
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They'd go back and show all the history, the reports in the newspapers.
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They did such a thorough job debunking that they did not do that with Bush.
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They don't try to debunk the crazy conspiracies against Trump.
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They just let them sit out there and don't really answer them.
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And, you know, at times with him, in fact, they spread them through speculation.
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They just spread them and then they don't correct them afterwards.
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And they never apologize for saying, you know what?
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We were wrong on this one and make a big deal out of it.
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Nobody cares about your apology that happened one time, two o'clock in the afternoon after you've spent three weeks saying it.
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I mean, I've heard Jake Tapper specifically go after conspiracy theories even against Trump.
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And Jake Tapper, I think, is in a different category.
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And so it's why it's why so many people agree when he says, you know, the enemy of the people, because it feels that way a lot of time.
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So when you're when you're sitting here, media, you're like, how can these people?
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How can they just keep putting up with the president lying about this?
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I thought I was I was I was voting for the pope.
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You really thought we thought Cohen was a good guy?
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If Donald Trump would have said during the election.
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Yeah, well, I'm trying to build Trump Tower, which there's nothing wrong with that.
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As long as it's disclosed, there's nothing wrong with that.
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I was shocked when he denied it so vehemently because I'm like, of course, he's trying to
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Every businessman wants to do expand and make more money.
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However, him saying, yeah, I've got business dealings in Moscow right now.
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So if he would have admitted it, they would have made it into exactly what it is.
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Not what it actually was, but what it is today.
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So what happens, and let me explain this one more time as simply as I can to the media
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and to people on the on the left, not to the left, people who are Democrats.
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But what is he supposed to do when you've got a when you have a media that will take anything
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and everything and turn it into a massive scandal when the media, the media created this
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Donald Trump, if we trusted the news during the Obama administration.
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If they were actually telling us what was really going on and did investigations when
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when the government was out of control and when Obama was clearly lying about things like
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That's the greatest health care system the world has ever seen.
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The math shows that's never possible that you can keep your doctor.
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No, here is the documented evidence that that will not happen.
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But you let it slide until what, a year after we lost our doctors and were paying higher prices?
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We needed somebody like Donald Trump to tell you, shut up.
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Because you thought he was going to be the easiest candidate to beat.
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You took down everyone else in his path, but you just loved him for ratings and you thought he was going to be the easiest one for Hillary to beat.
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So I just want to let you know that the, well, Albert wrote to me and he said, Glenn, I brought
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I never in my life have spent so much money to see anyone.
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I haven't attended a show of any kind in I don't know how long.
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My wife and I talked about it and we're going to give you a shot.
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But I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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It does seem like there could be a little threat inside of that.
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If you want to go see the show tonight or tomorrow, tonight in Tampa, tomorrow in Orlando, we'd
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You know, you go to Texas and it's like, Texas is either hot or freezing cold.
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I got a lot of email in regards to yesterday's program in this hour.
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And they all pretty much were summed up like this.
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She said, Glenn, I realize that you receive tons of email every day.
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This morning, Thursday, I was simply doing my normal routine, drinking coffee, checking email, getting ready to tackle a day at work,
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and listening to your show on my local conservative talk station, KSGF 104.1 out of Springfield.
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Around 9 o'clock in the morning, you began reading a story about a young woman who found out at an early age that she was unable to have kids.
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Listeners around the world, like me, were able to hear the compassion in your voice as you shared the story.
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You explained how something happens to a woman when she finds out she can't have kids.
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Thank you for being so real and so transparent for a few minutes and sharing this very real reality.
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I'm a young, ambitious 23-year-old conservative who can't have children either.
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She goes in to talk about she's had just she's just really had a tough, you know, few years.
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I'm a survivor who will one day be called mama by a child I adopt.
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She said, I am a firm believer that Jesus wasn't ready for me to be home yet.
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And I cannot wait to see what he has planned for my future as an adoptive parent.
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Glenn, I'm proud to be one of your longtime listeners.
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I had a hard time during the whole, you know, trying to get pregnant thing.
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And there is nothing more fun than when you and your wife are trying to get pregnant.
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It's what, you know, I never thought this would happen to me.
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Um, but, uh, uh, so it's hard to, it's hard to understand what happens, but there's a piece
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of a woman that just seems to, they think that they're not complete and they, I think men
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have somewhat of an equivalent there with like, when you lose your functions that you, you know,
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kind of think of yourself that make you a man, right?
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There's a guttural sort of thing that I think happens, you know, that we're like, it's your
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And it's, that's not a rational way of thinking, of course.
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Like it's, it's a, oh, I wasn't even thinking that I was thinking, I was thinking, for instance,
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um, you know, I've, I've, it's no secret that, um, you know, I've had some medical issues.
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Uh, but, uh, you know, there was, there are many times that, uh, my wife, uh, has had
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to get up in the, in the morning to button my shirts or tie my shoes.
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And she always says, honey, this is no big deal.
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I remember you telling the story of, I think it was your grandfather who got to a place
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where he could no longer drive a car and it, it ripped him apart and he wanted to, and
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then he wound up driving his, his lawnmower to town, right?
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Well, he drove, well, first he drove his truck to Denny's and then, uh, when he was backing
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out, uh, he went the opposite direction really fast.
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So we had to take the keys of the truck away and then he decided he was going to take the
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Uh, and so they had to stop him taking the tractor.
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And then we caught him literally on the highway on his little riding lawnmower trying to get
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And he was just like, first of all, the ultimate commercial for Denny's.
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Like you lose those things and you know, you feel like you're no longer.
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Well, but you have two ways to, you have two ways to go.
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Let me kind of, may I, may I share a story with you from the news?
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Now imagine you're in line at the dollar general store.
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And I, and I, I don't mean passing gas like, Ooh boy, I, I, you smell something.
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And this, this guy, you would, what would you do?
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You would expect the person to go, Oh my gosh, I am so sorry.
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And, um, so she, uh, she, uh, she turns around.
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She said, you have a, you have a problem with what's happened.
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Um, and he's like, well, I mean, it is just, I mean, can you, I mean, can you at least say
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And she reaches into her purse and he pulled, she pulls a knife and she pulls a knife on
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And she said, you, you say another word and I'm going to gotcha.
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Now, the one reason why this caught my eye today is guess which state this story is from.
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I mean, I, we, I would probably guess the one we're sitting in right now.
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This state is the, this is the home of the craziest news up until probably 2007.
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Then all news became like Florida, but Florida, I think the reason why Florida is so chill is
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They've been seeing that stuff go on for a long time.
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So when you got a president who's up there, look, I didn't, oh crap.
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You know, nobody's nobody in Florida is like, oh yeah.
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I, that is, I think the way they digest this information.
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Now I don't have the answer to this one, but I do, there is a problem with this story.
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A woman gets onto a plane with her five-year-old daughter and she gets on the plane and the,
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the flight attendants make fun of her daughter's name and then they go an extra step.
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They post a picture of the boarding pass and a picture of the daughter online.
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Well, yeah, I don't think that's cool, but they're making fun of her because she told ABC news that her daughter, ABCD.
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Is that a print, a pronounceable name or is it?
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It's a, ab, C, D, ab, C, D, ab, C, D, ab, C, D, ab, C, D, ab, C, D, but it is spelled A, B, C, D, E.
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So if I had to ask you what state the parent was from that would name their kids, A, B, C, D, E.
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If I had to ask you what state would a parent be most likely to name their kid A, B, C, D, E, what would you say?
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I would guess the one we're sitting in right now.
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No chance it's any place other than Florida or California.
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I think this is a case why we need a border wall.
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I would like it on the west side of Texas because they're swarming in these Californians.
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No Texan, no self-respecting Texan would ever name their child A, B, C, D, E.
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That's somebody from California that's like, I kind of like that country of Texas.
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You're going to name your kid after fruit, after space rocks, or any part of the alphabet.
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I know my name is also part of the alphabet, but it's arranged in a name.
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I want somebody on the staff of The Blaze to take 20 minutes out of their day today.
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They don't even have to write a story, but I'm the boss.
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I want to find out if this is a California immigrant.
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I suspect she's a white person who's a social justice warrior from California.
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The only person that hates white people more than you is probably the white person
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Imagine all the problems every time you put your name in for the rest of your life.
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Again, I know you think it's this cute thing, you're naming your kid this funny thing.
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Every time they put their name on a form, the person's going to be like, oh, I think you
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And, you know, it's a common name, I guess, over in England.
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Well, I don't think there's an apology needed for a name.
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I think it's the only apology he's ever going to get.
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And you're only doing it publicly, never privately.
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So, this is the only apology he's ever, ever going to get.
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What's crypto, what is crypto world doing right now?
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I've been starting, I'm getting to the point now where I'm starting thinking, when do I
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But there's some number where I'm like, jeez, this is crazy not to get back into this.
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But still, it was $500, $600, $700 for a long time.
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So, I mean, it's like, it is at that point to where, because here's what's weird.
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But Goldman Sachs, Chase Manhattan, all of these, all of these huge, huge trading firms and
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financial services, they've spent millions of dollars to prepare for a trading desk for
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I mean, the chairman of the New York Stock Exchange just said, Bitcoin and digital assets are
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And it's like, oh, if they're here to stay, this might be a good time to-
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I mean, it's ahead of the New York Stock Exchange.
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New York Stock Exchange has just built something for Bitcoin use.
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It has been unveiled, but it hasn't been in use.
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And the theory is, is that the rich get richer by talking all of this stuff down.
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And then when it gets really low, that's when they open the floodgates and they've bought
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I don't know what that low price is, but you're right, Stu.
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By the way, Bill O'Reilly is going to be joining us in just a few minutes.
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He's got a lot on his mind today as well to share.
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Also, 217 migrants have been found dead on the Texas border area and ranches in 2018.
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They just found another person dead on the ranch.
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I mean, these people who live on the border, it's, you know, if you're living in New York
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and you're like, I don't understand, you know, OK, I mean, so you got some immigrants coming.
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You don't know what it's like living on the border.
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Some of these some of these ranchers, I don't know.
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We had somebody that tried to give us a huge ranch in Texas.
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But when we realized, you know, they were trying to give it to us because they couldn't offload it.
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You know, if you're owning it, you you have all kinds of issues.
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It was like a family ranch that they could never go to anymore because it was too dangerous.
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You have no concept unless you live in a border state.
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Preventive and prevention, because you want to control the disease and prevent the disease.
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CDC says 70,000 Americans died from drug overdoses in 2017.
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Higher than the peak number of car crashes of deaths in 1972.
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The higher than the peak number of HIV deaths in 1995.
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Higher than the peak of deaths from guns in 1993.
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One of the chief causes of these insane numbers is the sharp spike in deaths related to synthetic opioids called fentanyl.
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In 2013, the U.S. had 3,000 fentanyl overdose deaths.
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That is a 45% increase of fentanyl deaths in one year.
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However, if you don't know what fentanyl is, if they ever try to give you fentanyl, don't do it.
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And so if you are at the end of life, go ahead.
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I can I can diagnose anything in the human body.
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They gave me fentanyl and another cocktail on top of that.
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I had it for like three or four days and I was addicted to it already.
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It's made for end of life use only because they know once you start taking it, you're not going to stop.
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The steep rise in the drug overdose deaths has reduced our life expectancy rate for the third year in a row.
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Now, the leading death for adults under 55 is drug overdose.
00:39:17.960
Federal crackdowns recent years have focused on the opioid prescription, and those are down overall.
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Yet overdose deaths keep rising mainly because of fentanyl, synthetic opioids.
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They're deadly because literally it says on the box, if you buy, you know, if you buy a real real doctor prescribed says on the box, do not touch their patches.
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If it wasn't it wasn't prescribed for you, it may kill you just touching it.
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Unfortunately, there was also another CDC report released yesterday.
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This one about suicide rates, which rose three point seven percent last year.
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Rural America saw the largest increase in suicides since ninety nine.
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The suicide rates for males and females has increased every single year.
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Gee, I wonder why men are worthless men are bigots men are haters men are misogynists men have no value.
00:40:29.060
Calling this the opioid epidemic is not hyperbole.
00:40:33.580
With the numbers as high as they are, you probably know somebody who is affected by this.
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You have to ask yourself what's happening to us.
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And politics can't ultimately do anything about it.
00:41:00.620
It might not seem like a lot in the big picture, but it is everything.
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It is everything, especially to that one person that you can affect right now.
00:41:36.340
I wanted to start with this because I know that your column is about another epidemic that you say nobody's really paying attention to.
00:41:45.340
Yeah, and there's a correlation to the rise of drug addiction in the hard drug arena to the massive amount of Internet addiction.
00:41:58.060
We're seeing not only in the United States, but the world.
00:42:01.780
And it's a very complicated issue, as you know, Beck.
00:42:09.440
By the way, I appreciate you guys labeling me Father Christmas.
00:42:15.740
Because, as you know, I saved Christmas for the United States of America.
00:42:22.700
And no spin elves on Bill O'Reilly.com working around the clock.
00:42:32.460
So, it's a very complicated situation because you are dealing with individuals who make a decision.
00:42:43.920
And the decision is, I'm going to take hard drugs for recreational purposes.
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You know, there are people who get addicted because of medical reasons, but not that many.
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And I'm going to do it despite knowing I might die and I might become addicted and destroy my family.
00:43:06.340
So, you're starting with a person who's troubled.
00:43:09.540
Because rational people, they don't make that decision.
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And therefore, all of this pie in the sky about, well, all we need is more money for rehab and the government's fault because they don't provide whatever to these people.
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The second thing is, the society itself, with the legalization of marijuana and the basic glorification of drug use in the media in Hollywood, sends a message to young and mature people that, you know what?
00:43:49.100
And, you know, getting intoxicated when you're 14, that's a good thing.
00:43:56.340
So, you have that, that massive wave of, oh, inebriation is good.
00:44:03.360
And if you do it, you'll be accepted and you'll be one of the cool kids.
00:44:13.020
And the final piece to it is, and we're looking at it now, well, if you're a seller of fentanyl, you know, it's a nonviolent crime.
00:44:24.160
Yeah, you might be handing people poison and they might die, but no, it's not that bad.
00:44:34.080
You shouldn't really be spending a lot of time in prison.
00:44:40.560
So, all of this is why the CDC comes out with this, you know, and by the way, more people died last year of drug overs than in the entire Vietnam War by a lot.
00:44:59.860
Well, but there's also something else that you talk about, and that is the addiction to devices and the Internet.
00:45:12.680
I just, I heard about it just a couple of days ago, and then I read it in your column.
00:45:21.760
So, now there are rehab clinics, of course, capitalism.
00:45:26.720
You're going to have four kids, mostly kids, ages 11, if you can imagine, to 23, 24, and it costs a fortune, because insurance is not going to handle it, to go there and try to, you know, pry their iPhones out of their hands.
00:45:45.780
But every parent and grandparent knows about the addiction, and there are plenty of adults addicted to it, too.
00:45:55.340
I mean, nobody talks about that, but pets used to be, you know, brought in, and you pay attention to them, and you walk them, and you nurture them, and now the pets look at me, how come nobody's paying attention to me?
00:46:11.560
That's why I got my dog an iPhone and an Instagram page.
00:46:19.680
Let's talk a little bit about Cohen and what happened yesterday, what you think it actually means, and then what you think it politically means.
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I don't know what it means, and no one else does either.
00:46:39.080
Therefore, all the pundits who are telling you on television and in the newspaper, op-ed pages that they do know are lying.
00:46:59.320
I lied to some congresspeople under oath about a Russian condominium project.
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Now, he is already, you know, not a credible person.
00:47:19.940
Then Trump, who has been saying the whole time, 14 times since he's been president, that we've had no business dealings at all over in Russia.
00:47:30.240
Yesterday he came out and he said he's weak and pathetic.
00:47:33.800
Then he came out later and said, yes, okay, so I was trying to, of course I was.
00:47:39.960
I was trying to build the Trump Tower, but there's nothing wrong with that, which is true, with an exception of the denials, but not under oath.
00:47:48.760
We do understand, we think, this coming from Rudy Giuliani, that the president answered honestly in his deposition, so there's no, if Giuliani is telling the truth,
00:48:01.140
there is no perjury trap here for him, so there doesn't look like there's anything, that there was any laws broken.
00:48:13.940
But he didn't lie about it because he said quite clearly, I don't have any business with Russia.
00:48:34.240
No, no, no, I'm not talking about court of law.
00:48:35.800
I'm not talking about court of law because we don't, as far as I'm concerned.
00:48:39.920
Trump and his lawyers can say, as they have said, we didn't have any business dealings with Russia.
00:48:47.620
And I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about the law because I don't think there's any laws broken here.
00:48:53.440
He's going to say, Beck, and you can disagree with it and disparage him if you want to, but he's going to say, I didn't have any business dealings with him.
00:49:02.080
A conversation about maybe someday we'll build a condo in Moscow is not a business dealing.
00:49:22.020
He signed a business and he formally engaged them.
00:49:25.780
The letters, I mean, obviously, you know, it's been reported on if it comes out.
00:49:32.660
And until I see the letter, I don't believe it.
00:49:41.220
Because if there's a letter of intent to build a condominium in Moscow, that's a business dealing.
00:49:51.420
Okay, so even if he, because see, this is interesting because I buy into the letter and I don't think that anybody's, I don't think it's going to come from.
00:50:10.860
It was the date of the third Republican presidential debate.
00:50:13.460
And I think this is an interesting one, Bill, because it's one of those things.
00:50:18.980
Well, if they have the letter, they should be able to show it, right?
00:50:22.520
If they have the letter, it should be in the Mueller report when it comes out.
00:50:27.900
If Cohen had a letter and Cohen would be the guy.
00:50:32.260
But he was the guy just yesterday, he just yesterday came out and said, okay, yes, I did lie about this too.
00:50:42.820
I get to the point on this when, when the facts are out, then we'll be able to comment on it.
00:50:48.280
I'm not, I'm not holding the letter out as, because I'm not talking about, I'm only talking about politics here.
00:50:57.080
Don't use the word lie and fall into the trap of all of the hate Trump media.
00:51:15.760
Well, this would be proof that you would, you, you are saying it would be proof if this letter existed and he signed it.
00:51:22.900
If you have a letter of intent to build a condominium in Moscow, that is a business dealing.
00:51:50.140
So, so is anybody, is this going to change anything?
00:52:00.540
If it didn't, it would just be, it would just be another thing that the anti-Trump people could say, the guy's not trustworthy.
00:52:14.780
Because if you, Sue and I were talking about this earlier.
00:52:18.080
If you listen to what the president says, you have a good chance at one point or another during your day of getting pissed off.
00:52:26.480
But if you don't listen to what he says, you just watch his actions like on, on, on Russia.
00:52:36.560
He has taken real sanctions to, to Russia that we have not seen before.
00:52:41.300
When, when you watch his actions, they don't match the words.
00:52:46.740
Cause he's a guy like, this is the most beautiful sink ever built.
00:52:50.840
And you're like, okay, it's a, it's a sink, man.
00:52:54.300
Um, so you, you have to, you have to not look at his, his language, but when you, when you actually listen to him, um, you have to defend it.
00:53:05.660
And, you know, we're, we're put into a role to where, um, we have to somehow or another say it's okay that he said, I had nothing to do with paying those girls off.
00:53:19.000
And we know now that he did, um, if he, if this happens with Russia and there's a, there's a couple of other things that are like this.
00:53:25.740
That you have to make a decision, whether his policies override his personal behavior.
00:53:37.940
And I think the American people, same thing with Bill Clinton as the Republicans are doing with Trump.
00:53:44.540
And I think, and I think everybody has already made their decision on that.
00:53:48.500
I'm not sure because if Trump needs, if he wants to be reelected, he's got to win over about 7% more votes, uh, than he has now in the polls.
00:54:01.940
So let's, let's persuadable people, depending on who runs against him.
00:54:07.040
And our conversation continues with Bill O'Reilly from BillOReilly.com.
00:54:26.140
You just grab them online at glennbeck.com slash tour.
00:54:33.020
I am not leaving this city without the House of Ribs.
00:54:44.700
Before we get back into the politics, can I ask Bill O'Reilly a question?
00:54:48.780
Uh, Bill, uh, are you aware of what happened with your Gettysburg Address bid the other
00:55:00.460
Because you bid $20,000 for a copy of the Gettysburg Address.
00:55:04.000
Um, and then there was an auction at the charity event and it went back and forth and you were
00:55:12.780
Um, I will like to tell you that the person who outbid you was this, a blonde woman who was
00:55:31.640
Uh, that particular piece went to do the Abraham Lincoln Museum.
00:55:37.280
Uh, but the, the entire event was, uh, my charity Mercury One, which is, uh, if I had
00:55:43.360
to lose to somebody, um, Tanya is, is a person that I would want to lose to.
00:55:52.320
Well, I don't know why she's with Glenn, but you're right.
00:56:01.640
Florida, where we are performing tonight, uh, in concert.
00:56:06.800
Uh, I believe Stu is, uh, you're going to try the cello tonight, are you not?
00:56:09.640
Yeah, I've never tried it before, but I think it looks pretty easy.
00:56:14.520
And I am on the electric guitar and electric piano, which I've never played either one
00:56:25.840
Tonight in Tampa, tomorrow in Orlando, glenbeck.com slash tour.
00:56:42.220
And if you get the steel drum going, I mean, hey, can Father Christmas just get a quick
00:56:52.260
The, uh, internet addiction is killing the book industry.
00:56:57.380
Because people don't want to take the time to read a 300 page book when they can just
00:57:02.540
text their brains out or Snapchat or whatever they're doing.
00:57:05.640
If you look at the Amazon 100 top 100 books, there are actually 10 books, 10 in the top
00:57:15.420
Killing the SS is actually the second, uh, bestselling book next to Michelle Oh in the
00:57:22.220
It was first last Sunday, but the wonky donkey and dragons love tacos are outselling me on
00:57:41.620
So the whole, how do you know that you were the one saying, unless you have a confirmation
00:57:52.600
How do you know that people they don't need, they don't anyway, killing the SS those are
00:58:00.780
Anybody who likes history will love killing SS for the holiday thing.
00:58:05.040
And then the O'Reilly.com premium membership spec.
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The president said, the president said yesterday, which, uh, you know, I love the way he negotiates.
00:58:26.400
He's got a twitchy eye and everybody's like, I don't know.
00:58:30.820
Um, he said, I don't really even know if I want to make a deal with China because we're
00:58:35.640
getting so much money from him now in this, uh, uh, tariff war.
00:58:39.660
Um, but you know, he does, but, uh, he is threatening all kinds of stuff.
00:58:46.600
What do you think is going to happen, uh, with the G20, any progress on the trade with
00:58:52.980
I think there'll be a breakthrough because China, and I have this very good authority
00:58:58.200
is going to slap a tariff on dragons love tacos, not going to be able to ship that book to
00:59:06.660
And that's going to be the deal breaker and Trump will give in and then everything will
00:59:11.820
Um, I, I have heard, um, that this deal with China, uh, has already been made and this is
00:59:28.820
And then they talk in a room and come out with a deal that never happens.
00:59:34.220
It's always by minions, um, or the secretary of state or whatever.
00:59:43.420
So they know now whether they're going to have an adjoined announcement on a Saturday or Sunday,
00:59:50.120
which I believe they'll have some kind of breakthrough.
00:59:54.520
So will the trade war, because this is the one, this is the one thing that I know president
01:00:01.000
He believes that he believes that trade wars are good.
01:00:08.960
Um, a lot of people in his administration have been hoping that he's just using this as a
01:00:13.620
negotiation tactic so far with Canada and Mexico.
01:00:17.260
No, well, he got his deal with Mexico and then he never changed the tariff.
01:00:26.020
His over door is coming in this weekend and they will do that.
01:00:31.460
He's not going to do it until over door gets in the new president of Mexico.
01:00:35.800
And he sees how he's going to handle a caravan.
01:00:38.060
He sees how he's going to do a whole bunch of other things.
01:00:40.100
So it's fair, but it'll, when it comes, when it, when it comes to Mexico, I'm not in any
01:00:45.820
hurry to lift it on Mexico just because of the caravan.
01:00:50.700
Um, because this guy's a socialist over door and you got to see how crazy he's going to
01:00:56.600
So, um, you think that he's going, we are going to solve this deal with China.
01:01:02.440
I don't know if you're going to solve it, but Trump is a deal maker.
01:01:10.140
And so he wants to put forth to the American people that he's tougher, smarter, and stronger
01:01:20.200
Now, China, they're basically saying, we're not going to take a lot of garbage from Donald
01:01:26.040
Um, but our economy is listing word of the day, Stu, L I S T I N G listing.
01:01:33.780
So we're going to have to do something to get investment back into China.
01:01:42.000
So both sides have big gains to be made if they can, you know, be nice to each other.
01:01:51.380
Let's talk about, uh, Putin, uh, yesterday president arrived.
01:01:56.920
And he said, no, I've got to look at, uh, I, you know, I, I, I'm not happy that they
01:02:01.700
haven't released the, uh, Ukrainian sailors yet.
01:02:04.700
Um, and, uh, you know, so, so what do you think is going to happen with Putin?
01:02:09.860
And you never know what Putin put a different character than, you know, China, China has
01:02:18.720
They have to, because the, their economy is so fragile.
01:02:22.260
It's a billion and a half people, many of whom don't have electricity, uh, they don't have
01:02:30.920
I mean, Putin's like Stalin in the sense that he runs that place.
01:02:37.240
And, and so Putin, you can't predict what he's going to do.
01:02:45.680
He goes, ah, let's have a little fun with Ukraine.
01:02:54.140
So Trump can't handle him because Trump's got nothing over him.
01:03:00.900
And now, you know, if Trump had his way, wouldn't meet with anybody.
01:03:10.660
Uh, last topic, the border, your thoughts over the week.
01:03:16.020
Well, we've done some excellent reporting on billoreilly.com,
01:03:19.240
tracing the big money, uh, that's come from Washington to Chicago,
01:03:23.620
to Tegucigalpa, Honduras, to fund this whole, um, ruse, R-U-S-E.
01:03:33.360
This is a very well orchestrated, organized, and funded campaign to break
01:03:38.440
the U.S. asylum system, break it down, break the border, have open borders.
01:03:46.360
And if you go to billoreilly.com, we've listed all the agencies,
01:03:56.080
In the past, he's got a lot of money to these organizations.
01:04:01.860
You don't have 6,000 people in Mexico City get on buses and drive to Tijuana
01:04:07.340
unless you have millions of dollars to charter those buses.
01:04:13.240
But the real thing is, why on earth does the U.S. media ignore the real story here?
01:04:20.300
You know, I mean, what, do you idiots in Black Rock and Manhattan want open borders?
01:04:32.780
I mean, these are, I'm now thinking that the people running the media agencies, Beck,
01:04:37.480
you know, with the exceptions of you and me, are just stone-cold stupid people.
01:04:46.560
But now I'm thinking, you guys are just stupid.
01:04:51.480
The, you know, perspective of open borders and chaos on our border with Mexico.
01:04:56.840
The narcotics that you talked about at the beginning of the hour.
01:05:00.780
Where do you think the fentanyl is coming from?
01:05:12.980
Bill, I agree with you that they are, they're just blind, just blind.
01:05:25.840
But when you, I think that the press has, you know, done what Fonzie did, what, in 1976
01:05:33.260
and jumped the shark, I think that they have, they've now entered a rule, into a room where
01:05:41.220
they are literally asking us to deny what our eyes can see.
01:05:47.460
And, and, and also deny, to look at what was happening.
01:05:54.040
The crusher was for the press that they showed these pictures of the tear gas with the kids
01:06:05.640
And then, all of a sudden, the next day, well, President Obama used tear gas 500 times on
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A word of it in the New York Times, Washington Post, you know, and so you're right.
01:06:29.320
Like, Americans go, you know what, we're not believing anything you say now, because you
01:06:39.120
And that helps Mercury, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, BillOReilly.com, because people go, you know
01:06:44.380
what, we're going to look for something that we could at least have a semblance of trust
01:07:04.220
It's really, it's, it's quite amazing, uh, your performance.
01:07:09.220
I want everybody to go see Beck and Stu tonight playing the cello.
01:07:20.980
BillOReilly.com and Killing the SS is his latest bestselling book, which is, uh, which
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01:07:34.180
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It's a, it's a very broad statement in question, but an interesting one.
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has come out and said that Celine Dion's new gender neutral clothing line is satanic inspired by Satan himself.
01:10:22.700
Uh, he said aside from the clothing being hideously ugly.
01:10:30.320
Oh, how many Hail Marys do I have to have for laughing at this?
01:10:33.680
Um, aside from, uh, the clothing being hideously ugly, occult themes on children is disturbing.
01:10:39.940
Babies who look, uh, sullen, who would pay $77 for a baby blanket with skulls on it?
01:10:46.040
Um, uh, anyway, so it's, um, it's a satanic and I, and I, I say, I say we should have known that with her music, uh, that anything really comes from her has been inspired by the devil.
01:11:02.760
Well, it is Celine Dion and my heart will not go on another second longer.
01:11:11.240
That's the new, uh, that's the new thing if you were like a big artist and, and now you could just go to Vegas and have a residency and just do those shows every day.
01:11:20.220
I'm trying to get that gig, but like the Vegas deli.
01:11:31.500
Usually people are eating and not necessarily paying attention to your show, but they're like, shut up.
01:11:37.680
Um, but, uh, I don't know if she's still doing it, but boy, I hope she is.
01:11:42.020
Cause I just, you know, that you didn't seem to really express a.
01:11:49.280
So we have, uh, ambassador Brown back on, um, coming up in just a second.
01:11:54.680
He was the governor of, of, uh, Kansas and Senator from Kansas as well.
01:12:01.700
Uh, and now he is the ambassador at large for the international religious freedom.
01:12:14.800
I just know this, that we wanted to talk to him about religious freedom,
01:12:18.640
but because he's in the role he's in, he can't talk about, uh, a couple of the stories
01:12:27.000
So, uh, I don't want to put him in an awkward position.
01:12:29.940
So if you're listening, you're like, why aren't you talking to him about this issue and that
01:12:34.360
Uh, cause I can't put him in an awkward position cause he's an ambassador at the time, but
01:12:38.440
we do want to talk to him about, uh, religious persecution and religious freedom around the
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Uh, Senator or ambassador Brown coming up next.
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20th anniversary of the international religious freedom act.
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This has been in, and I'm not sure that religious freedom is getting better.
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We have the ambassador at large, uh, Sam Brown back.
01:13:32.480
He was a Senator and governor of, uh, Kansas, uh, and now the ambassador at large, which
01:13:38.840
I think means he's either on the lamb or they don't, or they, or they don't give him a cool,
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Uh, I'm, I'm sure that at large means that you're not on the lamb, right?
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It's what the at large is not a religious freedom for, uh, you know, a particular country,
01:14:10.440
Bulgaria or Iran or something like that's on covers the entire world.
01:14:14.620
So, you know, we work on the issues around the world.
01:14:16.800
I'm stationed out of the state department, but I do do a lot of traveling, uh, the different
01:14:21.180
countries and work around the administration on religious freedom topics that, uh, yeah,
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It, the, the situation has gotten worse over the last 20 years.
01:14:30.100
Uh, but this administration is serious about what we can do to, to try to change that trend
01:14:39.720
So if, if we ask anything that we shouldn't be asking, I know, I know we want people to
01:14:44.920
be free and I don't care about, you know, I don't care about the interview or anything
01:14:50.520
So feel free to say, shut up Glenn at any time.
01:14:53.100
Um, but can we, um, can we talk a little bit about, um, the Middle East, uh, and, and
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start with the Middle East on what's happening, what's happening there.
01:15:06.160
We are, you know, Mercury one has done a remarkable job on bringing thousands of Christians out of
01:15:15.360
the Middle East and the lion's share really now at this point has gone to, um, uh, Australia.
01:15:22.260
And these are good Christians who were marked for death in the Middle East.
01:15:27.360
We've got one, one, not family, one person into America.
01:15:33.360
How come America is not embracing the persecuted Christians, uh, like some, uh, other countries
01:15:44.840
Well, we historically have, uh, you can, uh, look at a number of people that have fled the
01:15:50.380
Middle East, particularly religious minorities over the last 30 years and a number have come
01:15:56.020
And I don't know why the recent, uh, situation has changed where they're not coming into the
01:16:00.900
United States, uh, cause we've, uh, we've always been a haven for religious minorities.
01:16:06.000
One of the new things that we're trying to do more is though, to make the situation safer
01:16:11.240
in the Middle East for religious minorities to stay.
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Uh, and that's the, well, I know that's what a lot of them, yeah, a lot of them want to.
01:16:23.560
Northern Iraq is probably the best example where a number of them are moving back.
01:16:27.980
I toured there first of July, uh, we're rebuilding homes, rebuilding, uh, churches, institutions,
01:16:35.400
Uh, and the key long-term is to get a better security environment, uh, so that people don't
01:16:41.740
feel threatened, but they're, they are moving back.
01:16:44.920
Uh, and now we're starting to focus on that security agenda, uh, to be able to tell people
01:16:52.060
that, you know, yes, you can leave you, you can seek asylum status in other places, uh,
01:16:57.120
and people grant it, but we really need you to stay.
01:17:00.240
Uh, we, we don't want to see these historic religions, particularly Christianity, but also
01:17:06.320
the Yazidis in that region, just get, continue to get pushed out of the Middle East like they
01:17:12.740
Well, I tell you, they, they, most of them have reluctantly left, um, the ones that we
01:17:19.140
deal with, they don't want to leave because they, they, they all say the same thing.
01:17:23.560
If we leave, we are the original people that you read about in the Bible, the ones that were
01:17:28.820
persecuted, the, you know, the ones that the apostles first went to talk to, that's us.
01:17:33.940
And if we leave it completely, it leaves a vacuum.
01:17:43.740
And that's why I was happy to hear that a number of them are moving back now, uh, into
01:17:50.120
I, I, we just held, I had some meetings every week at Tuesday from 11 to noon, Washington,
01:17:56.320
DC, usually on the Hill, we do a religious freedom round table with outside groups and
01:18:01.200
a number of outside individuals then that have been persecuted or represent persecuted
01:18:07.900
Uh, and recently I was at one of those where people say, no, we, our community, Northern
01:18:12.820
Iraq, about 55% have moved back now, uh, to the community.
01:18:19.660
Uh, and they're, they're happy to be able to move back home, but the security situation
01:18:31.960
And so, you know, they're, they kind of sleep with a bag packed, uh, ready to flee to Erbil
01:18:38.940
or somewhere else in the region where they can get to near term safety.
01:18:42.540
But that, that's the situation we've got to correct where they don't have to, to sleep
01:18:47.960
with a bag packed, uh, to, to leave at any, at a moment's notice.
01:18:52.360
So, um, you know, the, the Saudi Arabia situation with Khashoggi was, uh, an absolute nightmare.
01:19:01.340
Um, and you know, they're not the, uh, friendliest, uh, place, uh, to visit, especially if you're
01:19:08.760
However, I have heard that things are dramatically changing there and, you know, they, the, there
01:19:17.060
are some areas in the Middle East that are even now openly embracing Israel.
01:19:22.920
Are you sensing something happening in the Middle East more than just an opposition to
01:19:33.400
I'm headed to the UAE, uh, United Arab Emirates next week, uh, speaking to a major, uh, mostly
01:19:40.740
Muslim leadership, uh, conference, uh, and going to talk about, uh, uh, ending, uh, violence
01:19:49.360
between the Abrahamic faiths, uh, and talk about, uh, that, that what we, uh, need to do is
01:19:56.300
have a respect, uh, for each other, uh, that these are different faiths.
01:20:02.360
There's no question about it, but people, we should have a respect, uh, for that, uh,
01:20:07.540
and that there should not be, and that, and that the theologians should say that our religion
01:20:13.220
does not support the use of violence in the promotion, uh, the propagation of the faith,
01:20:22.560
Now that, uh, that seems, that seems, uh, you know, that, that seems just like something
01:20:29.340
that people are going to say and they don't really mean it because that's the way it has
01:20:33.900
But I have again heard, uh, that in Saudi Arabia, they are now arresting and closing down many
01:20:42.300
of the extremist mosques, the Wahhabist, um, clerics that they're 15, 1500 to 3000 that have,
01:20:50.320
have, uh, have lost their mosque, uh, and have been, and, and have been, uh, stopped because
01:20:59.800
I, I can't verify that particular, uh, thing, but I can tell you, uh, that things are changing,
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uh, just that, uh, you are seeing, uh, a, um, leadership at the governmental level, uh, in
01:21:17.080
these countries that, uh, is more open, uh, respectful.
01:21:21.520
And then seeing too, Glenn, that when, when you decide as a nation, we are only going to
01:21:27.660
have one faith and we're only going to have one interpretation of that one faith in our
01:21:32.580
country and all else are not welcome, uh, and they can easily be, um, vandalized, terrorized,
01:21:43.840
You, you limit your potential and you actually increase extremism and terrorism.
01:21:50.020
And you almost, uh, authorize mob violence by doing that number of the governments in
01:21:55.980
the region are seeing, this is a bad strategy for us.
01:21:58.600
Long-term we can't grow based on this strategy.
01:22:01.840
We have to be open and, and let the faiths compete, uh, in a, in a, in a environment that
01:22:09.440
protects all faiths, being able to practice as they see fit, as long as they're peaceful.
01:22:15.220
So I'm, I'm, I'm sure you've seen what's been happening on our, our borders.
01:22:19.300
Um, and, uh, it has been a little agonizing, um, to many people to hear the, the refugee,
01:22:30.980
uh, word thrown around so much and, and asylum thrown around for people that, uh, many of
01:22:39.340
them are on record stating, uh, that they are here because they can't find a job or they
01:22:44.160
want to finish their education in America, et cetera, et cetera.
01:22:47.380
There, I'm sure there are qualified people that need asylum, uh, you know, that, that are
01:22:52.120
headed towards our, our border, but it's, it's in the vast minority, I'm guessing.
01:22:58.020
And it seems like we've lost touch with what a refugee really is.
01:23:02.780
When, when the United States opens, uh, its arms to say, we, we will provide shelter for
01:23:11.040
you, uh, it is for something vastly different than what we're seeing on the border.
01:23:17.140
Can you, can you define what a, what persecution looks like?
01:23:21.900
What a refugee or someone who needs asylum looks like in your world of religious freedom?
01:23:30.600
Well, I mean, there's, there are legal definitions and there are courts that make these
01:23:34.320
determinations and we have, uh, hundreds of thousands probably of people in the United
01:23:41.840
And I, I pulled that number out of the air, so I'm not certain, but I'm certain it's thousands
01:23:46.060
that are seeking and courts make that determination.
01:23:48.720
But generally the situation that has to prevail is that they were from or in a country where
01:23:55.000
in their set of beliefs, they could not, uh, function.
01:23:58.920
They were subject to terrorism, to arrest, uh, that they were not allowed to go to school,
01:24:06.680
uh, or to practice their, uh, freedom, uh, freely so that they had this level of systematic
01:24:13.180
persecution that was taking place at the hands of the government, uh, or that they had no
01:24:21.600
And this was allowed to take place against them.
01:24:24.120
Those are the sort of factual situations that you're looking for on an asylum status, which
01:24:31.000
is, which can often be pretty hard to, to, uh, actually achieve to meet the factual setting
01:24:37.520
that we require to grant somebody a legal asylum status.
01:24:42.920
Is the, the increase of religious persecution, is it a factor of the governments of the world
01:24:50.460
getting worse, or is it a factor that the churches have pretty much fallen asleep at the switch?
01:24:58.940
Uh, you know, I ask this question of experts all the time, uh, because it seemed like to
01:25:05.860
me that we had a burst of religious freedom after the fall of communism.
01:25:10.780
That those nations opened up, there was a, just, there was a freedom that happened that
01:25:14.980
they hadn't breathed for a long period of time.
01:25:17.160
It was more exclusive to there, but there was a nice push of it around the world.
01:25:21.000
And then the things have been constricting, uh, since that period of time.
01:25:24.460
And I was talking with an expert about that earlier this week, and he said, you know, it's
01:25:29.360
It's government seeing religion and its importance, uh, and its impact, and then dabbling in it,
01:25:38.640
But if you fund something by government, government's tentacles go into you and they tend towards
01:25:46.460
In other cases, it's a political move by government where a majority faith oriented people, uh, don't
01:25:53.340
like a new minority faith that's coming in and they want them kicked out, uh, limited,
01:26:00.140
and they'll pursue laws that, uh, that do that.
01:26:03.440
There's any number of factors, but it is probably really reflective as much as anything of the
01:26:09.060
growing importance of religion at a time when much of the world thought religion would be
01:26:15.160
Uh, the, the impact and the importance of religion is growing around the world and governments are
01:26:26.860
So let me ask you this, and it kind of goes to what you just said.
01:26:30.760
Um, as I travel the world and I am with persecuted people, uh, and persecuted for the religion,
01:26:48.280
Um, it is, it is, it is remarkable for the country that is known to be one of the most
01:26:56.740
religious, at least in Christianity, how shallow our faith is overall compared to those countries
01:27:07.200
Those people, their faith is remarkably different.
01:27:15.120
I, I, I'm around people weekly, uh, whose faith astounds me, whose beautiful faith.
01:27:23.880
And there's a, there's a calm peace, uh, and joy, uh, about them that you're looking this,
01:27:33.240
Uh, uh, I, I was, um, on the phone with Andrew Brunson, uh, and we worked his case.
01:27:40.220
The president got him out, uh, the president leaned in and got that done.
01:27:45.060
But that man, uh, Andrew Brunson has a remarkable calm and peaceful faith.
01:27:51.760
And he spent two years in a Turkish prison and had great difficulty and lots of spiritual
01:27:56.880
failures, but towards the end, getting successes.
01:28:06.920
And, and people speaking clearly about miracles and signs and things that they've seen personally
01:28:14.720
that have caused them to, to make this bold proclamation of their faith.
01:28:23.440
Ambassador, uh, Sam Brownback, um, you were a, uh, great governor and a great senator.
01:28:28.900
And, uh, and thank you for all of your hard work through the years and thank you so much
01:28:33.180
for your, your work as the ambassador of, uh, religious, international religious freedom.
01:28:53.500
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Uh, if you have anybody wants to blame, uh, anybody for my career, uh, it would be WFLA.
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And, um, and the, uh, program director here at the time was Sue Tricus, who is going to
01:31:01.100
I mean, you know, this is the mothership of the whole network.
01:31:03.340
And, uh, I would just walk by, I just walked by the studio where you and I had a conversation
01:31:08.260
and I said, uh, I'm telling you it's going to happen.
01:31:13.380
And you were like, Glenn, you've been saying that forever from the first day show that we
01:31:20.600
And like three weeks, remember this, like three or four weeks later, we get a call
01:31:25.540
from premier and they're like, we want you for that nine to noon live thing.
01:31:30.520
Uh, I I'm a, just as much a fan of these stories as well.
01:31:35.360
Uh, you know, it's like you were in theaters and here's a whole new brand new story that
01:31:45.460
I mean, I don't know what you're talking about as usual, but I do, I do remember, I mean,
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You know, it was really exciting and the people here are awesome.
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I just, I mean, every time we come back here, I love it.
01:32:00.320
Um, and, uh, you're very excited about the barbecue, which is weird coming from Texas.
01:32:06.840
I'm sorry, but I think the best barbecue ever is, uh, here at Kojax.
01:32:10.880
They're going to wall you out of the state of Texas.
01:32:13.560
They get so pick every barbecue in every part is different though.
01:32:21.400
I mean, you know, Texas is one, there's Memphis, there's Kansas city is another big one,
01:32:24.860
There's a bunch of people who, but they're all just Kojax.
01:32:35.520
So, so your first defense of it's just different was a lie basically is what you're saying.
01:32:41.720
And when it comes to Texas, Texans are just like, no, it's Texas barbecue.
01:32:46.700
Well, there's a difference between Texas barbecue and Kansas city barbecue.
01:32:50.580
It is, it's just a different flavor and everything else.
01:32:53.580
When it comes to Kojax barbecue over any other barbecue, this is just the best.
01:33:07.320
I still may be at Kojax eating, but grab your tickets now for Tampa tonight, Orlando tomorrow,
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Yesterday on television, I got a call from a woman who said, Glenn, I need your advice.
01:33:23.600
I, I have a friend who's been a friend of mine since grade school.
01:33:27.300
We grew up together and we have been such close friends our whole lives.
01:33:33.900
And she said, I think the turning point was on my Instagram page.
01:33:38.960
I, I posted a picture of the new Jerusalem embassy.
01:33:48.660
And I, yeah, I don't remember what she said, but basically, you know, I put emoji clapping
01:33:54.600
And she said, I think my friend just went crazy at that for some reason.
01:34:00.480
She said, I don't know what else it could have been.
01:34:02.960
She said, but I just got a letter from her saying, I can't be your friend anymore.
01:34:10.180
I want to, I want to write to her and tell her that she's wrong.
01:34:13.400
And so what I suggested to her was suggest, remind her of your friendship, remind her of
01:34:21.740
all of the good times that you've had, remind her, don't accuse her of anything.
01:34:25.560
Don't say anything that you're going to regret.
01:34:29.200
Just say, you are such a good friend and friends should be able to disagree with one another.
01:34:38.920
And if I've done something, I please forgive me.
01:34:42.140
But I just want to tell you that I will always feel this way about you because we've, we're
01:34:48.780
We've been together since we were in fifth grade or fourth grade, whatever it was.
01:34:54.480
Forgiveness is something that we all need to work on.
01:34:57.320
And I want to play a piece of audio from StoryCorps.
01:35:00.860
StoryCorps has, has really done some amazing things.
01:35:06.300
We're telling the story of, of America, but they're now looking to try to get people across
01:35:13.360
these political divides and come back together and just get to know each other again.
01:35:21.520
And there's been a couple of real healing things that I've heard.
01:35:25.500
One was a woman who was, um, uh, marching with, um, it wasn't Antifa, but it was a, it
01:35:33.720
was a, you know, a, a, a, a lefty kind of thing.
01:35:37.980
Uh, and there was another guy who was wearing a Trump hat and he was protesting the protesters,
01:35:45.700
Well, the protesters start surrounding this guy with a hat and they tear his hat off.
01:35:51.000
Well, she's a Muslim and she was wearing a hijab and she all of a sudden felt like they're
01:35:57.860
attacking, like they attack me, like people attack me.
01:36:03.780
And they had this amazing breakthrough between two people who were on the other side of the
01:36:09.360
And StoryCorps got them together to tell their story.
01:36:15.540
This one is, uh, this one is, uh, Mary Johnson.
01:36:29.140
She is, she's got so much anger and hatred in her heart.
01:36:32.960
She can't even speak of, of it for about 12 years until she goes to the prison and she
01:36:39.840
shows up at Stillwater prison and she sits down and wants to talk to him.
01:36:48.260
Here is, uh, O'Shea Israel, the guy who killed her son and Mary Johnson.
01:36:58.320
And I wanted to know if you were in the same mindset of what I remember from court, where
01:37:04.740
I wanted to go over and hurt you, but you were not that 16 year old.
01:37:17.680
You know, when I met you, it was like, okay, this guy is real.
01:37:21.340
And then when it was time to go, you broke down and started shedding tears.
01:37:27.380
And the initial thing to do was just try to hold you up as best I can.
01:37:31.900
Just hug you like I would my own mother, you know.
01:37:35.900
After you left the room, I began to say, I just hugged the man that murdered my son.
01:37:42.200
And I instantly knew that all that anger and the animosity, all the stuff I had in my heart
01:37:48.660
for 12 years for you, I knew it was over, that I had totally forgiven you.
01:37:56.660
As far as receiving forgiveness from you, sometimes I still don't know how to take it
01:38:09.060
I won't say that I have learned yet because it's still a process that I'm going through.
01:38:26.920
We actually bump into each other all the time, leaving in and out of the house.
01:38:30.560
And our conversations, they come from, boy, how come you ain't called over here to check
01:38:36.560
You ain't even asked me if I need my garbage to go out.
01:38:40.180
I find those things funny because it's a relationship with a mother for real.
01:38:57.600
Hopefully one day I'll be able to experience that with you.
01:39:01.220
So just to hear you say those things and to be in my life in the manner in which you are
01:39:07.980
It motivates me to make sure that I stay on the right path.
01:39:14.900
And the fact that you can do it despite how much pain I cause you, it's amazing.
01:39:19.400
I know it's not an easy thing, you know, to be able to share our story together, even
01:39:26.500
with us sitting here looking at each other right now.
01:39:44.640
Dave Isay is the founder and president of StoryCorps, and he's working on a new project
01:39:51.200
called One Small Step, and we welcome you to the program and your friendship, Dave.
01:40:01.060
So, first of all, that is one of the, I mean, you've got the greatest job in the world.
01:40:10.880
If you're sitting there and you're thinking, I just can't get over my hatred of it, are
01:40:17.700
If you can't solve a problem, and these two, she just called him my son, I love you, my
01:40:34.720
Tell me what the idea is and how people can get involved.
01:40:45.740
You know, it's funny about O'Shea Israel and Mary Johnson, who I actually had, they recorded
01:40:53.920
I just had the privilege of meeting them for the first time a couple of months ago, last
01:41:00.260
And I think, you know, a lot of people, when they hear StoryCorps stories, talk about,
01:41:10.980
I think what makes people cry is just as you said about Mary and O'Shea is that, yeah,
01:41:20.600
You know, people aren't coming on to get famous or rich.
01:41:24.540
And also, we're showing kind of a path that we can all take.
01:41:28.840
And when you hear humanity at its best, you're kind of walking on holy ground.
01:41:32.960
And there's something, you know, sacred about that.
01:41:35.360
And I think that's what even the funny stories, people just start crying when they hear them.
01:41:39.600
We've had half a million Americans participate in StoryCorps.
01:41:44.600
And it is an experience where two people come together with the help of a facilitator, or you can use our app.
01:41:51.540
We have an app and have a 40-minute conversation to talk about what's really important.
01:41:56.100
People think of it as if I had 40 minutes left to live, what would I say to this person who's so important to me?
01:42:01.760
And then at the end of the interview, you get a copy and another goes to the Library of Congress so your great, great, great grandkids can get to hear who your grandmother is or who your friend is through her voice.
01:42:12.780
And you know better than anybody the power of voice.
01:42:15.980
It's like the soul is contained in the voice, right?
01:42:19.100
So it really is, I think, in many ways, kind of the best expression of who we are as human beings, having these conversations as best as possible in 40 minutes.
01:42:27.520
We did start, and this is how I met you a few months ago, something completely different for us called One Small Step.
01:42:38.480
And basically what we're doing is everybody who's participated in StoryCorps so far has known and loved each other.
01:42:44.720
And what we're doing now is putting people across the political divides, people who think they hate each other, think that they feel contempt for this other human being or want them dead or whatever it is that's happened to this country.
01:43:02.200
You know, I last talked to you a couple weeks ago, and it seems like the sky's just darkened by the week.
01:43:09.080
But we opened the show up and said, oh, jeez, it's been a rough week.
01:43:13.640
And we were talking about, we say that every week, and it gets worse every week.
01:43:18.640
So, you know, but there are some good things that are happening.
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No, there are a lot of good things that are happening.
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And, you know, the facilitators who travel the country in these interviews, when they come back, and we've had hundreds of them, and, you know, they record every kind of person.
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The first thing they'll say when you ask them, like, what did you learn from this experience?
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You're out on the road for a year or two years.
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It's some variation of the Anne Frank quote that people are basically good.
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You know, but our, you know, I was listening to something this morning about talking about how, you know, the brain, like we, the brain pathways, it's like we're building the muscle of fear because we hear fear, fear, fear all the time.
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And you've got to build the muscle of the truth is that the basic goodness of people, and we've got to feel hope, you know.
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He was a very, very important and influential CIA station chief operator kind of guy.
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And we were talking about how much is going on in the world.
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And when we got to solutions, we both said, it's the human heart.
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You're not going to be able to fix anything unless we soften the human heart.
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And, I mean, I thought for a warrior to get that was pretty remarkable.
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Well, you know, it's the people who have been through the hardest things that have the wisdom of humanity, right?
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That's why at StoryCorps, there are a lot of times we work with people who are, you know, close to death or who have been through very difficult things because they're the ones, you know, forget the celebrities and everybody else.
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You know, it's the people who have been through tough things that are the holders of wisdom.
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And I think it's, you know, and one of the, you know, theories of StoryCorps, and I don't even think it's a theory anymore, is just the idea that how difficult it is to hate someone when up close, you know.
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And we talked about this last time, but, you know, we've just, we've forgotten as a country that, you know, that we belong to each other.
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So, Dave, you're setting out and you're looking for people, in particular, people from, you know, the conservative, you know, Trump world, et cetera, et cetera, because, you know, StoryCorps has heard a lot on NPR.
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And so, you know, everybody on the left knows what StoryCorps is.
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Very few on the right really kind of know what StoryCorps is.
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And you're looking for people that want to come together and figure out a way to each other without talking politics.
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So tell me what the experience would be like for people.
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It's not about finding common ground on a political issue.
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It's not about finding some middle resolution on abortion or whatever it is.
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It's just remembering that a person who you disagree with is a living, breathing human being.
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And what happens is every StoryCorps interview is a 40-minute experience.
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We have for One Small Step, which is this Across the Divides initiative, we have special One Small Step questions.
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And those questions are just talking about your life, you know, and you can pick whatever you want to talk about.
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A question like, who's been kindest to you in your life or who are your parents, you know?
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And then it gets into kind of politics but not in a straight-on way.
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Questions like, was there a moment in your life?
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And at some point, I'd love to, you know, talk to you about this.
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Like, what was a moment in your life that formed your political views?
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So I tell you what, Dave, next time you're on, bring another story.
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Next time you're on, let's go through that together a little bit.
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And if you want to get involved, you can just go to StoryCorps.org.
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And please, I urge you, everything's going to be recorded in the National Archives.
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It's important that the good voices of real people are recorded for history purposes.
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