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00:01:31.940 That's Pat Gray and Stu Bergeer for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:01:43.120 A lot to talk about.

00:01:44.140 A lot to get into.

00:01:45.260 There was an amazing press conference from the president yesterday.

00:01:49.160 Where he did basically a talk radio show during it.

00:01:52.460 It was kind of cool.

00:01:54.980 We'll get into that in just 60 seconds.

00:01:56.800 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:02.740 My dog Miles is 174 years old this month.

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00:02:16.680 He doesn't get around all that well anymore.

00:02:19.800 But we've lately been giving him rough greens.

00:02:23.200 Something that Glenn's talked about.

00:02:24.120 I know he's done a lot with his dog Uno.

00:02:25.840 So, and Miles is now, he's got a little pep in his step.

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00:02:34.400 Well, at 174, you're bound to be a little limping.

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00:03:56.500 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:04:15.840 He's feeling a little under the weather today.

00:04:18.100 The 24-hour COVID-19, I think, right?

00:04:21.300 It's just got...

00:04:21.780 COVID-24.

00:04:22.540 24.

00:04:22.880 It's a 24-hour COVID.

00:04:23.920 He actually, in his email today to tell us he was not going to be in because he was

00:04:28.460 feeling sick, he made the distinction that it was not coronavirus, which I don't know

00:04:34.920 how you do that exactly.

00:04:36.280 That's not what a doctor does, right?

00:04:37.820 You don't just say, oh, him?

00:04:39.780 I don't think he's got it.

00:04:41.080 You have to have a test or something, at least have the symptoms.

00:04:44.560 But he claims he does not have coronavirus.

00:04:47.800 Okay.

00:04:48.080 He's been self-isolating for quite some time now.

00:04:51.020 A long time.

00:04:51.980 Yeah.

00:04:52.140 It's been six weeks, has it, already?

00:04:55.000 Yeah.

00:04:55.160 It's been a long time.

00:04:55.920 I think, yeah.

00:04:56.480 And so he's not really popped out of the house for much of anything.

00:04:59.220 And he will not be in today and not feeling well, which is sad.

00:05:03.420 That is sad.

00:05:04.320 But we'll monitor his symptoms and let you know if it's turning into any of the COVIDs,

00:05:09.820 1 through 24.

00:05:10.900 Now, if you don't have 1 through 18, will you understand when you have, you know, the

00:05:17.480 subtle nuances of the disease when you have 19?

00:05:19.720 No.

00:05:20.180 I didn't have any of the first 18.

00:05:22.780 Yeah.

00:05:23.020 So I'm supposed to understand this?

00:05:24.880 I just feel like everyone's already on the COVID-19 bandwagon.

00:05:27.720 I can't just join it now.

00:05:28.980 I got to go back and go COVID-1, COVID-2.

00:05:30.980 Right.

00:05:31.300 Go all the way up the list.

00:05:32.720 So, like, I tried to watch Game of Thrones starting in the final season.

00:05:38.140 Oh, you did?

00:05:38.680 It didn't make any sense at all.

00:05:40.000 I didn't know any of the characters.

00:05:41.020 I didn't know what they were doing.

00:05:42.160 I didn't know who they were.

00:05:42.940 So you didn't enjoy it a great deal?

00:05:43.600 I didn't know who they were associated with.

00:05:44.940 I didn't know why they were upset at certain things.

00:05:47.560 None of it made any sense at all.

00:05:49.200 And that's what people are understanding now with COVID-19.

00:05:51.460 You can't just jump in.

00:05:52.360 Right.

00:05:52.560 No.

00:05:53.080 You got to start at the beginning.

00:05:56.920 How did you feel about the President's Press Conference yesterday?

00:05:59.840 You know, part of it I liked a lot.

00:06:01.420 Yeah.

00:06:01.580 Quite honestly.

00:06:03.760 Part of it was really good.

00:06:05.760 And we'll show you that part because he came out and he was obviously pissed off about the

00:06:13.100 New York Times article over the weekend.

00:06:14.760 Yes.

00:06:15.060 That said why he was a failure on the coronavirus response. 1.00

00:06:22.300 And it just outlined, you know, how stupid he is and how he waited on this and he didn't 1.00

00:06:27.860 listen to the right people, listen to the wrong people. 1.00

00:06:30.000 All of that from the New York Times.

00:06:31.880 And they didn't really, they didn't really back anything up with any evidence, with any

00:06:36.000 facts.

00:06:36.560 It was just, it was mostly an opinion piece and he was not happy about it.

00:06:40.660 And so he came out ready to go after the media.

00:06:45.220 And here's what happened.

00:06:51.180 It's Trump does the talk radio bit because it's a lot like a talk radio show here.

00:07:00.080 Cut number nine.

00:07:02.000 But I took this action early and so the story in the New York Times was a total fake.

00:07:07.840 It's a fake newspaper and they write fake stories.

00:07:10.500 And someday, hopefully in five years when I'm not here, those papers are all going out of

00:07:15.780 business because nobody's going to want to read them.

00:07:17.700 But now they like them because they write about me.

00:07:19.940 Now with that, I have a couple of interesting, we have a few clips that we're just going to

00:07:25.700 put up.

00:07:26.140 We could turn the lights a little bit lower.

00:07:27.660 I think you'll find them interesting.

00:07:28.680 And then we'll answer some questions.

00:07:32.560 I'll ask you some questions because you're so guilty, but forget it.

00:07:37.060 But most importantly, we're going to get back onto the reason we're here, which is the success

00:07:42.700 we're having.

00:07:43.260 Okay, please.

00:07:44.760 You could put it on.

00:07:45.640 Thank you.

00:07:48.820 People should be more concerned right now with the flu in this country.

00:07:51.920 A lot of people are concerned about the coronavirus because they're hearing a lot of news about

00:07:54.960 it right now.

00:07:55.580 But the reality is comparing it to the flu, for example, it's not even close to being

00:08:00.400 at that stage.

00:08:01.200 What if it is worse?

00:08:02.640 Is this a moment where maybe countries put politics aside, a little bit of pride aside?

00:08:08.840 And do we have U.S. officials?

00:08:10.900 Should U.S. professionals such as yourself get involved?

00:08:14.140 How worried should Americans be about coronavirus?

00:08:17.560 Coronavirus is not going to cause a major issue in the United States.

00:08:20.380 Hmm.

00:08:20.960 Okay.

00:08:21.500 So there's some experts.

00:08:22.520 It's while the president took decisive action.

00:08:26.540 And then there's the timeline of the actions that he took.

00:08:29.880 This is where the orchestra walked into the room and sort of played music.

00:08:33.340 We will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days.

00:08:39.780 To unleash the full power of the federal government in this effort today, I am officially declaring

00:08:44.200 a national emergency.

00:08:46.040 Medicare patients can now visit any doctor by phone or video conference at no additional cost.

00:08:51.360 The first one million masks will be available immediately.

00:08:55.540 Okay.

00:08:56.440 Even as partisans sniped and criticized.

00:08:59.540 As there were more cases, and it was clear that it was spreading out of China where it

00:09:04.440 originated, the president took this move that he was widely criticized for by Democrats and

00:09:10.600 even some Republicans at the time, which was he halted a number of flights from China into

00:09:16.220 the U S the idea was to halt the spread of the disease, keep transmissions to a minimum.

00:09:23.200 He was accused of xenophobia.

00:09:25.580 He was accused of making a racist move at the end of the day.

00:09:30.640 It was probably effective because it did actually take a pretty aggressive measure against the

00:09:37.000 spread of the virus.

00:09:38.000 Bipartisan governors recognize the president's support.

00:09:43.260 This is incredible.

00:09:45.180 His team is on it.

00:09:46.260 They've been responsive late at night, early in the morning.

00:09:50.620 And they've thus far been doing everything that they can do.

00:09:55.000 And I want to say thank you.

00:09:56.860 And I want to say that I appreciate it.

00:09:59.140 He returns calls.

00:10:00.420 He reaches out.

00:10:01.900 He's been proactive.

00:10:03.000 We got that down here in Los Angeles.

00:10:06.760 That was directly because he sent it down here.

00:10:09.160 2,000 medical units came to the state of California.

00:10:13.020 These FMS, these, these field medical stations.

00:10:16.680 And that's been very, very helpful.

00:10:18.820 The president has been outstanding through all this.

00:10:22.320 The vice president's been outstanding members of the coronavirus task force.

00:10:26.360 Very responsive.

00:10:27.180 We had asked if we could have, New Jersey could have access to a piece of the beds that are

00:10:33.620 on the USNS comfort.

00:10:36.000 And the president came back, called me a short few minutes before I walked in here to say

00:10:40.740 indeed they would grant that to New Jersey.

00:10:42.560 So that's a big step for us in addition to all the other capacity.

00:10:47.320 That news is literally hot off the press.

00:10:49.260 And I thank the president and vice president who are on the call together.

00:10:52.440 President Trump approved Arizona's request for a presidential major disaster declaration.

00:10:59.900 I want to thank the president for a quick turnaround.

00:11:03.620 We requested this on a Wednesday and we had approval by Saturday morning.

00:11:09.380 And we are grateful to the administration for their continued support and responsiveness.

00:11:14.980 Well, first of all, I want to thank the president, the vice president, for doing a really good

00:11:20.580 job of communicating with all the governors.

00:11:23.180 There you go.

00:11:24.840 And then he comes back out.

00:11:27.260 So we could give you hundreds of clips like that from governors, including Democratic or

00:11:33.300 Democrat, as I call them, governors, which is actually the correct term.

00:11:37.560 We could give you hundreds of clips just like that.

00:11:40.320 We have them.

00:11:40.880 We didn't want this to go on too long, but I just want to say it's, you know, it's very sad

00:11:47.600 when people write false stories like, in that case, I guess it was gotten mostly from the New York

00:11:53.560 Times, which is a highly, I mean, if you had libel laws, they would have been out of business

00:12:01.260 even before they'll end up going out of business.

00:12:03.960 So it's too bad.

00:12:05.400 But we could have given, you saw the statements.

00:12:07.080 It's, we have hundreds of statements, hundreds of statements, including from Democrats and

00:12:11.880 Democrat governors.

00:12:14.360 So there it is, like a, like a full talk radio presentation.

00:12:18.220 And we're out of time for today's show.

00:12:19.920 We'll see you tomorrow.

00:12:21.960 That's in the middle of a press conference.

00:12:23.840 Amazing.

00:12:24.480 I mean, look, he has to make the case because no one else is going to make it for him.

00:12:28.000 Well, and he's under continual barrage.

00:12:30.880 I understand that.

00:12:31.820 Non-stop.

00:12:32.100 Right.

00:12:32.520 I mean, I don't, you know, it's funny.

00:12:34.980 One of the clips he plays in the middle is another clip that, that I played on this show.

00:12:38.980 And I think on the news and why it matters on blaze TV from Maggie Haberman, as well

00:12:43.480 as my show, Stu does America, by the way you could subscribe to that if you'd like, or Pat

00:12:48.080 Pat great unleashed.

00:12:49.280 But the Maggie Haberman clip is interesting in that it was on the podcast, the daily, which

00:12:54.620 is the big New York times podcast.

00:12:56.340 Maggie Haberman's basically their top reporter goes back and forth between Donald Trump's favorite

00:13:01.120 reporter and least favorite reporter, depending on the day.

00:13:04.540 And she made that point in the middle of that program, which was interesting.

00:13:09.220 I mean, it was the first time I had heard a mainstream reporter acknowledge that number.

00:13:15.920 Not only did the move work when it came to banning flights from China, but also that we

00:13:21.680 acknowledged there was unfair criticism that was unfounded.

00:13:24.760 It wound up being untrue about the move.

00:13:27.900 Yeah.

00:13:27.980 Cause the Democrats were all screaming how racist it was.

00:13:31.160 It was xenophobic and racist.

00:13:32.660 Yeah.

00:13:33.120 It was racist when he did it to China.

00:13:34.940 And then when he banned flights from Europe, now you're banning allies.

00:13:41.220 These are our allies.

00:13:42.700 You can't, what kind of message is that sending?

00:13:44.480 That's xenophobic.

00:13:45.480 Right.

00:13:46.260 So he couldn't, he couldn't win.

00:13:47.320 He can't win on this.

00:13:48.300 And I will say that that podcast is a 30 minute podcast or so in which 28 and a half minutes

00:13:55.240 are saying he didn't do a good job.

00:13:57.360 And then there's that minute.

00:13:58.880 Really?

00:13:59.280 On that particular one?

00:14:01.260 Yeah.

00:14:01.920 And it's funny.

00:14:03.080 It's the same source that he's complaining about, the New York Times.

00:14:05.700 Yep.

00:14:05.960 And they're making largely the same point as that article that was in the New York Times

00:14:10.660 that he's complaining about.

00:14:11.720 And the point is, or at least, you know, the point of all of this from the New York Times

00:14:17.960 perspective is that he did act early in January, but then didn't follow it up in February.

00:14:23.840 And they're trying to zero in on this three week period, the last week of February and

00:14:28.960 the first two weeks of March, where it seemingly to experts was obvious that this was going to

00:14:36.220 get really bad and he didn't do enough.

00:14:37.800 And like, stepping back from, you can't trust their criticism, you can go and find much later

00:14:46.100 dismissive comments from people like Andrew Cuomo and Bill de Blasio and Nancy Pelosi and

00:14:51.860 all of these people.

00:14:52.720 Like, you can do all of that.

00:14:54.780 But that is really something that is better done after this is over.

00:15:00.620 Is it not?

00:15:01.340 Yes.

00:15:01.620 We can go back and examine every move Donald Trump makes in the beginning of March.

00:15:06.620 Once we get past the immediate crisis that is going on, the fact that the media is spending

00:15:12.620 all of these resources trying to pick apart every little decision made before we knew how

00:15:18.180 serious this was, or as it led up to the time where we understood how serious it was, and

00:15:23.360 trying to make it into a political issue now is disgraceful.

00:15:27.100 There's no reason.

00:15:28.240 This can be, this is an interesting conversation.

00:15:30.660 It may even inform your vote in November.

00:15:32.860 Maybe it will.

00:15:33.300 Maybe you'll look at this and say Donald Trump did a great job, or Donald Trump did a terrible

00:15:36.720 job.

00:15:37.180 But I think we can all understand that this is not the time to litigate that.

00:15:41.200 We are in the middle of a crisis right now.

00:15:43.800 Yeah.

00:15:44.320 And yet the media can't let it go.

00:15:46.260 They can't.

00:15:46.860 They hate him so much that that's all they know how to do is to criticize him and his

00:15:52.760 every move.

00:15:53.460 And they're trying to plant in the mindset of the American people that he blew this, that

00:15:57.320 it's a failure, and that people have died because of his inaction.

00:16:01.940 And that's what they want the impression to be when you go to vote in November, whether

00:16:07.240 it's by mail or in person, that's the impression they want you to have, that Donald Trump failed.

00:16:12.260 And so I think he sees the necessity to combat some of that, because if he doesn't, who's

00:16:19.340 going to?

00:16:20.180 I mean, we are, but we're going to say some things.

00:16:23.160 But he wants to take his opportunity as well with the bully pulpit that he has and refute

00:16:29.780 some of this nonsense.

00:16:31.400 I don't blame him.

00:16:32.880 I don't blame him.

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00:17:53.720 So, obviously, CNN was offended by that, by Donald Trump's press conference, and John

00:18:11.980 King tells us all why he's so offended.

00:18:15.420 The president has every right to defend himself.

00:18:17.680 The president has a few key points he wants to make about his action on the China ban.

00:18:22.220 He's absolutely correct.

00:18:23.660 However, I spent nine and a half years in that building, close to 10 years in that building,

00:18:27.660 including in that briefing room as a White House correspondent, many of them working with

00:18:31.340 you back in the Clinton administration.

00:18:33.180 Then I stayed on through the George W. Bush administration.

00:18:35.900 That was propaganda.

00:18:37.020 That was not just a campaign video.

00:18:38.660 That was propaganda aired at taxpayer expense in the White House briefing room.

00:18:43.460 And it was selective cherry-picking information.

00:18:46.220 Again, the president has every right to be proud of imposing the travel restrictions on

00:18:50.780 China.

00:18:51.000 He was criticized by other people at the time.

00:18:53.360 And it turns out, every public health expert will now tell you that that helped.

00:18:57.060 That helped.

00:18:57.540 That was the one thing the president did early on.

00:18:59.980 Some of those other things that were announced in there were cherry-picked.

00:19:02.520 And they ignore some things, like on January 22nd, when the president was asked by CNBC,

00:19:07.720 is there going to be a pandemic?

00:19:10.280 No, not at all.

00:19:11.380 That was the president of the United States on January 22nd.

00:19:13.660 January.

00:19:14.000 That's amazing.

00:19:14.320 The president, in early February, said, looks like in April, you know, in theory,

00:19:18.060 it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.

00:19:20.880 The president said then on February 26th at the White House, this is the flu.

00:19:24.520 This is like the flu.

00:19:25.920 He said in that same press conference, we're going to get very substantially 15 people,

00:19:30.440 15 within a couple of days.

00:19:31.620 It's going to be down to zero.

00:19:32.960 I could go on and on and on, Wolf, with other things the president has said.

00:19:36.740 And you have.

00:19:37.040 Again, he has every right to defend himself.

00:19:38.920 He has every right to push back.

00:19:40.680 He has every right to challenge things that are factually not true.

00:19:43.580 But to play a propaganda video at taxpayer expense in the White House briefing room is a new,

00:19:50.260 you can insert your favorite word here, in this administration.

00:19:53.700 There are ways to do things, and then there's that.

00:19:56.120 That's just plain out propaganda in the James Brady briefing room of the White House.

00:20:00.040 And CNN wants the corner market, the market cornered on propaganda.

00:20:06.640 They want to be the only propagandists in this battle.

00:20:09.800 Don't step in on our turf.

00:20:10.920 Right.

00:20:11.640 We're the propagandists every day.

00:20:13.740 We're the ones who do this and cherry pick news usually.

00:20:16.700 We don't want him doing that.

00:20:18.380 I mean, that's despicable.

00:20:20.260 That's just despicable. 0.67

00:20:21.200 And the inane idea that Donald Trump was going to shut down the U.S. economy in early February. 1.00

00:20:29.340 It's asinine. 1.00

00:20:29.840 It's so ridiculously silly. 0.99

00:20:32.580 There were literally, what, 15 people in early February with the disease in this country. 0.97

00:20:37.480 You're going to shut down America because 15 people have it?

00:20:40.400 Now, you know it's going to spread, but you're not thinking at that point that, you know,

00:20:46.160 there's going to be 500,000 of us with the disease.

00:20:48.780 No, and look, it was 15 people that had tested positive.

00:20:51.740 We know probably there were more here, and we were trying to get a handle on it.

00:20:55.540 We've talked about the testing issues that largely came from the bureaucracy of the CDC.

00:21:02.720 And, you know, that was an issue.

00:21:05.400 It's one that we were able to overcome here and now are testing over 100,000 people every single day.

00:21:12.400 But it took a little time.

00:21:13.140 Over 3 million so far.

00:21:13.800 Yeah, over 3 million so far.

00:21:15.080 It took a little time.

00:21:16.400 Everything did not go perfectly.

00:21:17.620 But it never does.

00:21:19.640 It never does.

00:21:20.660 And you're telling me, we could also go back and find a million clips of the media, as Trump did some of that there,

00:21:26.380 where they say that it's not going to be that big of a deal.

00:21:29.960 Including Anthony Fauci, by the way, who multiple times early on said it wasn't going to be a big deal for America.

00:21:35.000 Yeah, and look, you know, everybody, I did a show on Stew Does America basically saying, look, before, I don't know, what do you want to say?

00:21:43.680 Early to mid-March, right?

00:21:46.080 Pretty much, I think everybody gets a pass.

00:21:49.100 There's a, I mean, you can go to certain experts who are predicting it.

00:21:52.860 There were some.

00:21:53.320 But this is a stat I quote often, to show where the mindset was, because this has happened so fast.

00:21:58.620 One month ago, one month ago, 87% of people polled believed it would be less than 10,000 deaths.

00:22:07.840 87%.

00:22:08.320 So only the most alarmist people in our society had any idea how bad this would get.

00:22:15.980 Okay?

00:22:16.500 Yeah.

00:22:16.780 It did turn out that way.

00:22:17.820 They usually don't, right?

00:22:19.240 So you can understand why people had different opinions at that time.

00:22:22.640 Although it did not turn out as bad as some predicted.

00:22:26.340 I mean, the CDC was saying 2.2 million.

00:22:28.980 Yeah, I mean, that was if we did nothing.

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00:22:33.300 You know what?

00:22:33.780 Let's just let it flow. 1.00

00:22:34.840 Let them all die. 1.00

00:22:35.840 Don't even let them in the hospitals. 1.00

00:22:37.340 Let them all die in the front porch.

00:22:38.480 They were still saying 240,000 a couple of weeks ago. 0.97

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00:22:42.340 Yeah.

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00:24:06.540 Back in a few seconds here with more on Anthony Fauci,

00:24:10.620 this whole press conference thing.

00:24:12.240 Is Anthony Fauci going to get fired?

00:24:13.860 We'll talk about it next.

00:24:24.360 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:26.820 888-727-BECK.

00:24:28.640 Okay, so the press is doing everything they can right now

00:24:33.520 to pit Anthony Fauci against President Trump.

00:24:37.620 Yes.

00:24:38.020 They're trying desperately to make something out of that relationship

00:24:41.080 so that the president will fire him

00:24:42.600 and then they can all come down on him like a ton of bricks

00:24:45.920 because he fired this expert that everybody respects medically.

00:24:50.240 That's what they want so badly.

00:24:52.540 Oh, yeah.

00:24:52.960 And they keep trying to pit him against each other.

00:24:54.820 Now, remember, they did the same thing with James Comey.

00:24:57.580 They came out and they said,

00:24:59.840 he needs to fire James Comey.

00:25:02.040 Look, if Comey's bad, Comey's bad, Comey's bad.

00:25:04.100 The second he fired him,

00:25:05.340 they all turned on him and said it was a massive constitutional violation.

00:25:09.000 And they will do the same thing with Fauci.

00:25:11.160 Absolutely.

00:25:12.020 Like, you know, if that happens, this is what they will do.

00:25:15.200 They will completely switch on it.

00:25:17.280 It's interesting, though, to see where this is coming from

00:25:20.480 because, I mean, I think the American people, generally speaking,

00:25:23.660 have had positive reviews of the way Trump has handled this from the beginning.

00:25:27.860 He's had good approval ratings.

00:25:29.580 He's seen as positive.

00:25:31.340 A good chunk of that reason is because he's the nation's leading infectious disease expert

00:25:35.800 is backing up every one of his moves.

00:25:37.920 Right?

00:25:38.280 You can tell there's tension there occasionally.

00:25:41.300 Right?

00:25:41.520 You can tell that they don't always agree.

00:25:43.540 You can tell that Fauci doesn't agree with some of what Trump says.

00:25:47.060 Right.

00:25:47.460 But I will say that he goes out of his way over and over and over again

00:25:52.620 to allow, to give the best possible spin for the president.

00:25:57.140 One of the things that I thought was very important that he did early on

00:26:00.880 was to say, look, I don't, my job has nothing to do with figuring out

00:26:06.060 if the economy is good or not.

00:26:08.480 That's the president's job.

00:26:09.620 All I can do is tell him the medical advice,

00:26:11.300 and he has a higher responsibility than I do

00:26:14.180 to judge all of it together and make a decision.

00:26:16.320 That is a more difficult job than just taking it down the road

00:26:20.480 of the medical advice.

00:26:23.020 Because anybody could do that, right?

00:26:24.560 We could just assign doctors to be president of the United States

00:26:27.500 if that's what we wanted.

00:26:28.720 That's not what we want, right?

00:26:30.340 The example that popped up in my head, Pat,

00:26:32.140 is how many times have we tried to do like a comedy bit

00:26:34.620 or something that's maybe edgy,

00:26:38.120 and it's edgy enough that they make us go to the attorneys?

00:26:42.100 Mm-hmm.

00:26:42.440 And what do the attorneys always say?

00:26:46.020 No.

00:26:46.540 No.

00:26:47.020 Don't do it.

00:26:47.980 It opens you up to a risk.

00:26:49.480 Err on the side of caution.

00:26:50.520 It opens you up to too much risk.

00:26:52.120 Yep.

00:26:52.260 You guys are going to get, you could get yourself in trouble.

00:26:54.060 They could, someone could sue.

00:26:55.420 Someone could complain.

00:26:56.780 Blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:26:57.480 They will always say that because they're seeing it from one perspective.

00:27:01.160 Their expertise is, show me the problems when it comes to the law.

00:27:05.500 Mm-hmm.

00:27:05.800 Understandable, right?

00:27:07.180 That doesn't mean that they're bad at their job,

00:27:09.060 but it doesn't, that doesn't mean that you as a host or you as a company say,

00:27:13.780 okay, well, every time the lawyer says, no, we don't do it,

00:27:16.560 because then you'll never do anything, right?

00:27:18.860 Right.

00:27:19.060 And the same thing happens here with Trump.

00:27:20.940 Obviously, you could get to a point when you're talking about the medical advice here,

00:27:26.440 where we could all stay inside forever, and that will probably help coronavirus go away.

00:27:32.120 Right?

00:27:32.820 Mm-hmm.

00:27:33.020 But that's not a sensible decision.

00:27:34.700 We could also say the speed limit should be four, and we'll have a lot less traffic deaths.

00:27:40.840 But it's not necessarily, when you take in the entire decision-making process, the way you go.

00:27:45.980 So, Fauci's been pretty upfront with that.

00:27:49.260 And the clip that was so controversial with Jake Tapper over the weekend,

00:27:54.440 I don't even think sounded, to me, didn't even sound like criticism of the president.

00:27:58.740 It was just the obvious acknowledgement that if they had acted a little earlier,

00:28:04.020 things may have been better.

00:28:05.540 But that's on Fauci as well.

00:28:07.900 Yeah.

00:28:08.120 He's not absolving himself from this at all.

00:28:11.820 Here's the clip.

00:28:12.560 This is from Jake Tapper's weekend show thing.

00:28:15.040 Sanjay Gupta said, this is all because we got started too late in the U.S.

00:28:21.060 Is that right?

00:28:21.620 Do you agree?

00:28:23.920 You know, it isn't as simple as that.

00:28:25.680 It isn't as simple as that.

00:28:26.340 Jake, I'm sorry.

00:28:27.140 I mean, to just say, this is all happening because we got started too late.

00:28:31.400 Obviously, if you look, could you have done something a little bit early?

00:28:34.640 It would have had an impact, obviously.

00:28:36.580 But where we are right now is the result of a number of factors.

00:28:40.840 The size of the country, the heterogeneity of the country.

00:28:44.260 I think it's a little bit unfair to compare us to South Korea, where they had an outbreak in Daegu,

00:28:50.000 and they had the capability of immediately, essentially, shutting it off completely in a way that we may not have been able to do in this country.

00:28:57.680 So, obviously, I would have been nice if we had a better head start, but I don't think you could say that we are where we are right now because of one factor.

00:29:06.500 It's very complicated, Jake.

00:29:08.040 I mean, he's disagreeing with Gupta's analysis there.

00:29:11.260 He's saying that, no, it's not fair.

00:29:13.360 It is not fair to say this about our response.

00:29:17.680 Everybody, with perfect 2020 hindsight, of course you can say, I wish I would have done something differently.

00:29:23.820 If you are buying a stock and the company profile is amazing and all of a sudden COVID-19 hits and the stock goes through the floor,

00:29:33.380 of course you could look at it and say, okay, well, obviously I wish we didn't buy that stock,

00:29:38.720 but that doesn't mean it was a bad decision at the time or that you handled it incorrectly at the time.

00:29:43.180 You can only do the best, you know, you can only consider the information you have at the time.

00:29:50.120 And all he's saying there is, number one, we couldn't have handled it the way all of Trump's critics are saying it should have been handled.

00:29:57.860 We can't, we're not South Korea.

00:29:59.300 We've got a constitution that protects the United States and the people inside of it from having full lockdown and unlimited invasions of privacy.

00:30:09.040 We don't get to dox all of our citizens.

00:30:11.920 That's not the way this country works.

00:30:13.780 So, he's acknowledging that.

00:30:15.800 I don't even, it's not even criticism.

00:30:18.380 It's not even criticism.

00:30:19.420 It's just, I swear the media just wants to make this into a fight when there isn't a fight.

00:30:24.880 I think there's a natural tension between, you know, someone who is arguing for the most restrictive ways to protect people at all costs.

00:30:34.300 And I'm sure the same thing is happening, we're just not getting as much publicity about it,

00:30:38.480 with people in his economic council who are saying, you've got to open this up, Mr. President.

00:30:43.480 What are you doing? We've got to do this.

00:30:44.720 And the president is saying, well, we need to also consider the other side, the medical side.

00:30:49.460 He's the only one in this group that has to consider all of it.

00:30:52.760 Right.

00:30:53.280 And so, he has a different responsibility than these people do.

00:30:56.880 That's natural tension, which is normal in one of these conversations.

00:31:02.040 And he's dealing with the other side of the equation where they are telling him, we should be going for 18 months on shutdown.

00:31:10.280 Exactly.

00:31:11.160 18 months?

00:31:13.300 We wouldn't have a country left.

00:31:14.840 No.

00:31:15.200 After a year and a half.

00:31:16.280 You're not protecting anything at that point.

00:31:17.580 The airline industry is gone.

00:31:19.120 The restaurant industry is gone.

00:31:20.760 Yeah.

00:31:20.940 How about the, how about medical innovations?

00:31:22.840 How are those coming along?

00:31:23.660 Right.

00:31:24.200 Yeah.

00:31:24.580 Hotels would be shut down.

00:31:26.220 I mean, you would shutter so many businesses and lose so many jobs.

00:31:31.880 I mean, what do you have?

00:31:32.820 60, 70, 80% unemployment if you go a year and a half?

00:31:36.900 Oh, yeah.

00:31:37.500 I mean, it's incomprehensible to consider that.

00:31:40.640 It is.

00:31:40.660 The damage would be beyond repair.

00:31:42.580 Now, that doesn't mean we won't be dealing with this in 18 months in some way, right?

00:31:46.340 It's possible that that's going on, but you're going to have to come up with a solution better than just shutting everything down for 18 months.

00:31:52.020 That doesn't make any sense.

00:31:52.760 Yeah.

00:31:53.160 Well, they're talking right now about maybe rolling shutdowns.

00:31:56.360 Yeah.

00:31:56.780 If something flares up somewhere, maybe you shut down a few things in that area, but you don't do that nationwide.

00:32:02.980 Right.

00:32:03.200 Like, I think it makes sense, right?

00:32:04.460 Like, let's say if we were starting again at zero, there's zero cases in the United States, and we were able to have all this stuff ramped up.

00:32:13.080 We have tests.

00:32:13.900 We have masks.

00:32:14.720 We have ventilators.

00:32:15.520 We have all the things that have been a struggle.

00:32:17.240 Well, and why this time, I think the president was right to buy us this time, to ramp all that stuff up.

00:32:23.260 But once you have it, if you have an area, you're in Wyoming, and you're in an area with no breakouts, if a breakout starts, or an outbreak, I guess, starts of COVID-19, you are tracing the contacts.

00:32:38.700 You are isolating the people involved.

00:32:42.160 You are doing everything you can to minimize that outbreak.

00:32:45.160 When you're prepared and you understand how the thing spreads, and we know now that it's asymptomatic, people can spread it, and all of these different things, once you know that, you have a chance to stop it.

00:32:55.060 You can't do it.

00:32:55.720 They tried to do it in Los Angeles with all this stuff, the contact tracing and all that.

00:32:59.280 It was too many people had it.

00:33:00.280 It's impossible.

00:33:00.900 That's why the shutdown was something they went with, because it was beyond the point that South Korea was.

00:33:09.560 It was beyond the point where Hong Kong was.

00:33:11.380 It was beyond the point where Singapore was.

00:33:12.980 They couldn't do that approach at that time.

00:33:16.480 If you can stamp out the initial wave of it, get these infections lower, you can do it when a new outbreak occurs.

00:33:23.480 And that's what I think their target is going to be.

00:33:25.480 It was especially difficult, because now they're saying that it was much more widespread earlier than they believed.

00:33:35.320 In other words, people had it in California long before they thought anybody had it in California.

00:33:42.420 That's what they're supposedly finding now.

00:33:44.840 And I can well imagine that's true, because there were a lot of asymptomatic people. 1.00

00:33:50.760 There were a lot of people who were just walking around that had it that didn't know they had it.

00:33:54.260 And we didn't have the test at first.

00:33:55.620 We know that there were more people that had it, but we don't know when they arrived, and we don't know what the percentage is.

00:34:02.360 And we're not going to know that, honestly.

00:34:04.020 We're not going to know the full facts of this for a very long time until people are going to go back and do this analysis.

00:34:10.120 This is how you find out how many people were affected, is they do analysis after the fact.

00:34:14.820 That's why these things are difficult to deal with.

00:34:17.220 Fauci, though, and Trump, I don't think either one of them were taking the bait on this from the media.

00:34:21.160 Fauci started off the press conference yesterday refuting reports that Trump didn't listen to him last time.

00:34:30.240 Again, he's in full defense mode of the president here.

00:34:32.820 Listen.

00:34:33.020 The first and only time that Dr. Birx and I went in and formally made a recommendation to the president

00:34:41.240 to actually have a, quote, shutdown in the sense of not really shutdown, but to really have strong mitigation, we discussed it.

00:34:51.480 Obviously, there would be concern by some that, in fact, that might have some negative consequences.

00:34:58.280 Nonetheless, the president listened to the recommendation and went to the mitigation.

00:35:04.060 The next second time that I went with Dr. Birx into the president and said, 15 days are not enough.

00:35:13.060 We need to go 30 days.

00:35:14.820 Obviously, there were people who had a problem with that because of the potential secondary effects.

00:35:21.800 Nonetheless, at that time, the president went with the health recommendations.

00:35:27.800 And again, remember, Anthony Fauci is in, and I think this is part of the reason he's getting pushback from conservative media,

00:35:35.920 is because he's in this annoying Brad Pitt mode where, like, the left is trying to make him into this hero

00:35:42.860 that's rescuing Trump from a disaster, right?

00:35:46.160 But that's a media creation.

00:35:48.200 That's not his creation.

00:35:49.620 He has been like that over and over and over again publicly.

00:35:54.040 And think about this, Pat.

00:35:55.280 The guy has an 80% approval rating right now.

00:35:57.420 80%.

00:35:57.860 If he wanted to do the James Comey, I'm a martyr thing, he could absolutely do it.

00:36:05.200 And the media would eat it up.

00:36:07.480 Oh, yeah.

00:36:07.860 They would eat it up.

00:36:09.220 They would love it.

00:36:10.200 They would love for him to be able to say, look, I tried over and over again to get him to do these things earlier,

00:36:14.320 and he wouldn't do it.

00:36:15.160 He wouldn't listen.

00:36:16.260 He could write books.

00:36:17.600 He could be every single news program would have him on in this fawning fashion.

00:36:22.020 They would be making the videos that Trump made of himself in the press conference for Anthony Fauci.

00:36:29.380 And he hasn't done that, right?

00:36:31.140 He may do it in the future.

00:36:32.320 Who knows?

00:36:33.080 But as of this point, he seems to be pretty focused on making sure as few people die as possible.

00:36:39.440 And I'd argue that maybe that's the same thing Trump's focused on.

00:36:43.720 Maybe Trump is also focused on not having people die.

00:36:47.640 You know, the media is so constantly in this mode of pressuring the Trump administration to make it about this battle between him and the media.

00:36:59.620 And obviously, he likes that at some level.

00:37:01.780 You can tell.

00:37:02.500 He enjoys it.

00:37:03.880 But, you know, when it comes down to the actual decision making, take out the press conference, take out the words,

00:37:08.540 take out those little silly battles, and look at what the guy's done.

00:37:12.780 He is in the middle of his election year.

00:37:15.460 A guy whose entire election argument has focused on how good the economy is.

00:37:22.000 And Donald Trump made the decision to shut down large portions of the economy for six weeks in the middle of the election year.

00:37:30.320 Taking one of the strongest economies we've ever had and destroying it in a month.

00:37:35.280 What information?

00:37:37.320 What does he think is going to happen?

00:37:39.200 He obviously thinks a lot of human life is at stake.

00:37:42.040 Yes.

00:37:43.560 And it's not just...

00:37:44.440 Otherwise, he wouldn't have taken that step.

00:37:45.940 Yeah.

00:37:46.740 Nobody believes in wanting the economy open more than Donald Trump.

00:37:50.300 More than I do.

00:37:51.260 More than you do.

00:37:51.880 More than anybody in the audience does.

00:37:53.340 Donald Trump wants this economy open more than anyone does.

00:37:56.660 It's just the issue of he's looking at this information and saying, wait a minute.

00:38:00.380 How much human life are we going to look at here?

00:38:02.580 Yeah.

00:38:02.880 You know, let's give us some time to be able to ramp up.

00:38:05.320 Make sure... 0.80

00:38:05.920 I mean, the fact that we don't have enough masks in the United States is ridiculous. 0.71

00:38:09.400 Right?

00:38:10.240 Now we've had a month to build these things up and we shouldn't have that issue going forward.

00:38:14.280 That's a big advantage when you're facing the next outbreak.

00:38:17.700 And, you know, I think he's walked an impossible line pretty freaking well so far.

00:38:21.820 And the idea that Fauci needs to go, I think, would be a political problem for Trump if he did.

00:38:27.740 It'd be really bad.

00:38:28.540 But also, like, I think so much of this is forced by the media.

00:38:32.160 They continually want to draw a wedge between them because they can't criticize Fauci.

00:38:36.620 Mm-hmm.

00:38:37.580 So they can't criticize him.

00:38:39.140 So they want to separate those two so they can praise him and criticize Trump.

00:38:44.600 Shouldn't let him do it.

00:38:45.880 888-727-BECK.

00:38:47.860 All right.

00:38:52.940 So you have worked really hard over the years and saved every penny you could along the way.

00:38:58.200 You're always smart with your business decisions, making sure you only invested wisely and spent frugally.

00:39:03.600 And eventually, as is the great American success story, you ended up becoming pretty wealthy.

00:39:09.340 Congratulations.

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00:43:36.100 Joe Biden.

00:43:37.800 Obviously the presumptive nominee at this point.

00:43:42.160 And interesting article written over the weekend, I think it was.

00:43:46.240 Was it Saturday or was it Sunday in the New York Times?

00:43:49.440 About the accusation against him that he sexually assaulted a woman on his staff in 1993.

00:43:57.660 We'll get into what the New York Times had to say about that.

00:44:00.520 Coming up in just a minute.

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00:44:07.120 For the time being, at least, it looks like we've kind of said goodbye to the free market.

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00:45:57.360 So the New York Times supposedly looked into Joe Biden's sexual assault

00:46:07.700 of the woman back in 1993 that was on his staff.

00:46:12.940 And, I mean, it was pretty blatant.

00:46:15.720 When you listen to her story, she sounded really believable, I thought.

00:46:22.620 I certainly believed her.

00:46:25.040 Yeah.

00:46:25.620 I mean, it's tough, right?

00:46:28.280 Because it's an accusation from 27 years ago.

00:46:32.000 27 years ago.

00:46:33.040 That's a problem.

00:46:33.880 Yeah.

00:46:34.140 And, you know, again, I don't know how you can litigate those things 27 years later.

00:46:39.720 It's almost impossible.

00:46:40.480 Now, I know there is one system to do it, which is the Kavanaugh model, which is you

00:46:45.260 just believe anything the person says, proof or not.

00:46:47.740 Right.

00:46:48.400 And say that it's unconscionable for anyone to allow a person like Brett Kavanaugh to

00:46:54.700 ever exist in polite society again.

00:46:57.160 That's one model.

00:46:58.160 And it's the model that the left has adopted for every conservative or Republican.

00:47:01.960 Until now, at least.

00:47:03.700 Because people like, I don't know, Alyssa Milano were saying, oh, yeah, women and Hillary Clinton, 0.97

00:47:08.560 women deserve to be believed. 1.00

00:47:10.600 Okay.

00:47:11.080 Well, do men not deserve due process?

00:47:14.400 Because they're being accused of something pretty serious here.

00:47:16.780 Should at least go through the process.

00:47:18.620 Yeah.

00:47:18.980 Right.

00:47:19.740 And that wasn't the case with Brett Kavanaugh.

00:47:22.200 But now, all of a sudden, oh, yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:47:25.600 I mean, you should take them seriously, but you don't believe them automatically.

00:47:28.820 Yeah.

00:47:29.020 That was the Alyssa Milano line. 0.93

00:47:30.460 Right.

00:47:30.740 I love that because it's what you're arguing for is the conservative standard.

00:47:35.000 Yes.

00:47:35.360 What we're saying is when someone, a woman says she's been abused, you take that claim 0.96

00:47:40.560 seriously.

00:47:41.700 You encourage it.

00:47:43.020 And this is very important, important part of this.

00:47:45.080 You encourage it to come out as soon afterward as possible, ideally with authorities, not

00:47:50.660 through the media.

00:47:51.860 And you go through the evidence and try to understand what happened.

00:47:54.800 And if someone is guilty after a due process situation, then you're very excited to throw

00:48:02.240 them in prison for as long as possible.

00:48:04.280 That's what conservatives have always been asking for.

00:48:06.700 It's what we, the standard we wanted for Brett Kavanaugh, right?

00:48:09.280 Yes.

00:48:09.480 There was no one that I knew of that was like, gosh, I mean, Brett probably did this, but

00:48:14.100 I, you know, look, I hope he gets away with it because he's going to be a good vote of

00:48:17.780 the Supreme Court.

00:48:18.520 I know no one who thought that way.

00:48:20.200 No.

00:48:20.220 There's tons of Supreme Court justices, frankly, others that I would have picked besides Brett

00:48:24.620 Kavanaugh, just because of his voting record, nothing to do with his high school drinking

00:48:29.640 habits.

00:48:31.160 But like, it was unfair.

00:48:32.640 He was obviously qualified for the job.

00:48:34.420 And you can't give in to the left and the media dogpiling on Brett Kavanaugh without any

00:48:42.440 evidence.

00:48:43.120 Right.

00:48:43.320 There's much, seriously, much, much more evidence that Joe Biden did this than Brett Kavanaugh

00:48:49.880 did what he was accused of.

00:48:51.080 Oh, yeah.

00:48:51.460 It's not even remotely close.

00:48:53.900 She actually told one of her friends at the time in 1993 that this occurred.

00:48:59.860 She also told her mom, which we can't quantify because her mom is no longer with us.

00:49:08.540 But so, well, we can even throw that one away, but told two other people as well, one in 2008

00:49:13.940 and another back, I think, at the time.

00:49:16.600 So you have.

00:49:17.700 And they've all corroborated.

00:49:18.820 Yeah.

00:49:18.960 They've all corroborated.

00:49:19.720 Yeah.

00:49:19.860 No one said.

00:49:21.040 Unlike, you know, for example, one of the Michael Avenatti accusers who said, you know,

00:49:24.580 who might know is this person.

00:49:26.200 And then they asked this person.

00:49:27.640 They're like, actually, I don't know who you're talking about.

00:49:29.360 Who's this?

00:49:29.880 I don't know the name you're referring to.

00:49:31.640 Didn't even.

00:49:32.260 Not only did she not know about the incident, but didn't know about the actual person who

00:49:37.080 was making the accusation.

00:49:38.920 It wasn't like that.

00:49:39.980 This is one where she seemingly is backed up by, as they would call it, contemporaneous testimony.

00:49:48.300 Yeah.

00:49:48.860 Yeah.

00:49:48.920 And it is a situation where if this was a Republican, it would be rock solid, 100% proof that they

00:49:58.660 did this.

00:49:59.640 That is absolutely true.

00:50:01.800 If this, if Joe Biden was a Republican, the media would be handling this completely differently

00:50:09.300 and assuming guilt at every level.

00:50:12.460 No doubt about it.

00:50:13.200 So it's important to note, it's not just some flimsy, wild-eyed accusation.

00:50:18.700 But that being said, even though I don't want Joe Biden to be president, he deserves due

00:50:22.420 process.

00:50:22.980 He deserves a presumption of innocence.

00:50:25.880 And the fact that you come out 27 years later and say something occurred that there is

00:50:35.780 no way to show any evidence of, that is to me not enough to destroy a person's life, a

00:50:42.780 person's career, a person's political aspirations.

00:50:45.040 And it's particularly suspicious when it's against a powerful figure.

00:50:49.820 Mm-hmm.

00:50:50.840 You know, this guy's running for president right now.

00:50:53.700 He's the Democratic nominee for president.

00:50:55.860 And of course, you have to have some level of suspicion as to whether it's true.

00:50:59.940 And the media would not allow for that during Kavanaugh.

00:51:03.220 Why would, why would, Joe Biden would not allow for it.

00:51:06.000 His, his quote was like, any woman who would stand up in the fire of the, of the public

00:51:11.180 eye deserves to be, the assumption needs to be that the essence of their story is correct.

00:51:16.900 Right.

00:51:17.840 Not now.

00:51:18.580 Not now.

00:51:19.420 Not now.

00:51:19.840 Not according to his campaign.

00:51:21.380 No, Joe categorically denies that this happened.

00:51:25.240 Well, Joe has never, he's not addressed it.

00:51:27.900 And it's fascinating to me that nobody asks him about it.

00:51:31.000 Thank you.

00:51:31.760 Nobody asks him.

00:51:32.540 Because I was listening to the New York Times did a big story on this.

00:51:35.420 Finally.

00:51:36.000 It took, uh, 20, 20 days, something like that, uh, from the accusation.

00:51:40.320 They decided to finally follow up on it and understand it, which is interesting because

00:51:43.160 if it was a made against a Republican day one, there's a new story about it.

00:51:46.240 The next day.

00:51:47.440 Outlining the allegations without question.

00:51:50.280 And at the very end, there'd be like the Trump administration denied the claims, right?

00:51:54.020 Like that's all you'd get from the other side.

00:51:55.840 It would just be, and it would be a cinematic telling of it.

00:51:59.520 You know, she walked into the dark room with a fire burning into the corner, the cold steel

00:52:05.100 of the table.

00:52:05.880 He would have had the whole, it would have felt like a movie.

00:52:09.420 You would have been able to picture yourself there and you would have pictured Donald Trump

00:52:12.700 doing this to this woman.

00:52:14.160 Instead, it's a police blotter of an article.

00:52:17.760 Yep.

00:52:18.140 She claims this.

00:52:18.920 She claims this.

00:52:19.600 She claims this.

00:52:20.260 They claim this.

00:52:20.920 They claim this.

00:52:21.420 It's like, it's nothing.

00:52:22.320 It's just, it's not even a story.

00:52:23.520 It's just like a bunch of claims and, and the fact that people who currently work for

00:52:29.700 Joe Biden or people who worked for Joe Biden back in the day say they don't remember anything

00:52:34.640 like it.

00:52:35.160 They can't of course disprove it, but they don't remember anything.

00:52:38.860 But there's no pattern of sexual assault in, in Joe Biden's past.

00:52:44.160 I love this.

00:52:44.540 And then at the very end, they outline the pattern of Joe Biden's sexual assault with

00:52:50.540 people, with women who have been, you know, uncomfortable and who have made claims that

00:52:57.760 he, he did sexually assault them in some way.

00:53:02.620 Right.

00:53:03.140 Whether through a kiss that was unwanted or touching that's unwanted.

00:53:07.220 Here's the initial tweet.

00:53:08.240 And this was, this is also in the story.

00:53:10.760 You should know initially.

00:53:11.920 And then was changed.

00:53:12.940 Here's what they said.

00:53:13.520 No other allegation about a sexual assault surfaced in the course of our reporting,

00:53:16.920 nor did any former Biden staff corroborate Reed's allegation.

00:53:20.200 We found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Biden beyond hugs, kisses, and touching that

00:53:26.520 women previously said. 0.99

00:53:27.780 Beyond the pattern that we've found.

00:53:30.120 Right.

00:53:30.500 And that's an issue with patterns.

00:53:32.100 You can't throw out all previous evidence and ever have a pattern, right?

00:53:36.000 Right.

00:53:36.180 A pattern is something that is repeated.

00:53:37.600 So if you throw out all the other examples you have of it, nothing can be a pattern.

00:53:42.880 Yes.

00:53:43.520 This is, they had, obviously there is an issue that Joe has with being a little handsy.

00:53:49.220 Yeah.

00:53:49.420 It's been joked about for a very long time.

00:53:51.540 And we've seen the pattern repeat itself over and over and over again.

00:53:54.580 It is a pattern.

00:53:55.740 Bike women sitting on his lap in a bar. 1.00

00:53:58.800 I mean, there's all kinds of, the, the Senate greeting thing that he does with the new senators

00:54:05.080 and, and congressmen.

00:54:06.780 Oh.

00:54:07.080 They come in and he eats all over their families and stuff.

00:54:09.860 It's weird.

00:54:10.520 Yeah.

00:54:10.780 It's been weird.

00:54:11.540 And it was a jokey thing for a very long time among conservatives and Republicans who

00:54:16.540 just know it was weird.

00:54:18.140 Yes.

00:54:18.500 It changed into something else when seven individual women came out and said, it really made us 0.59

00:54:22.520 feel uncomfortable.

00:54:23.260 Right.

00:54:23.700 It wasn't a joke to them.

00:54:25.200 They really didn't like it.

00:54:26.400 Yeah.

00:54:26.660 And especially this one person who was on the staff.

00:54:29.220 And she was one of the seven.

00:54:30.240 Yeah.

00:54:30.500 Yeah.

00:54:30.680 So the New York times talked to her back when they were doing this initial story and they

00:54:34.820 seem to claim that she brought up additional things other than just a little hair sniffing

00:54:41.840 and, you know, uncomfortable touching, but because they couldn't get any corroboration,

00:54:47.740 they didn't put it in the story.

00:54:49.080 Well, here we are, you know, wow.

00:54:51.740 What a difference from Kavanaugh.

00:54:53.320 Oh yeah.

00:54:53.980 They had no corroboration at all.

00:54:56.620 Remember, put it in the stories anyway.

00:54:58.340 Yeah.

00:54:58.460 Remember with Kavanaugh, not only did we not have the time it happened, we didn't even

00:55:02.900 have the location it happened.

00:55:04.800 Right.

00:55:05.120 And if my memory serves me, I don't know that we ever had any information that they ever

00:55:08.540 met.

00:55:09.740 Do we ever know that Kavanaugh and Blasey Ford met when they were in high school?

00:55:14.660 I don't think so.

00:55:15.300 I don't remember.

00:55:16.380 I mean, it's possible I'm forgetting details there, but I don't remember that being the

00:55:20.220 case.

00:55:20.920 So there's much more information here.

00:55:23.060 The Times was asked and actually gives some credit to Ben Smith, who he used to be the

00:55:29.420 guy who ran BuzzFeed.

00:55:30.500 He's over at the New York Times now.

00:55:32.000 He did an interview basically with the Times, asking the Times, his own employer, what the

00:55:38.620 hell happened here exactly?

00:55:41.300 You know, his first question was, Tara Reid made her allegation on March 25th.

00:55:46.060 Why not cover it then as breaking news?

00:55:47.720 That is an interesting one, because you don't have to have a full investigation done the

00:55:52.680 day she makes the investigation, but you don't even report on it.

00:55:55.280 Right.

00:55:55.740 No passing story.

00:55:59.020 And listen to this answer by, this is the, what's his actual position here?

00:56:06.380 The executive editor of the Times.

00:56:08.480 This is his answer.

00:56:09.620 Lots of people covered it as breaking news at the time.

00:56:12.520 First of all, come on, what?

00:56:13.640 Right wing blogs?

00:56:15.100 Right?

00:56:15.240 Like, there were not a lot of people who covered it that way in the mainstream media.

00:56:18.880 Since lots of people covered it as breaking news at the time.

00:56:20.660 Plus, aren't you the paper of record?

00:56:22.060 Right.

00:56:22.560 Wouldn't you want to be part of that breaking news?

00:56:25.240 Of course.

00:56:25.980 Right?

00:56:26.280 You'd think.

00:56:27.800 Lots of people covered it as breaking news at the time.

00:56:29.900 And I just thought nobody other than The Intercept was actually doing the reporting

00:56:34.160 to help people figure out what to make of it.

00:56:36.060 My gosh.

00:56:36.580 So, The New York Times is now ceding its authority to The Intercept.

00:56:40.620 Wow.

00:56:40.980 To say, oh, well, look, The Intercept had it, so we didn't need to do anything on it.

00:56:44.780 I don't even know what The Intercept is.

00:56:47.620 I think it's Glenn Greenwald's thing.

00:56:50.840 Oh, okay.

00:56:51.400 And, like, you know, again, no knock on The Intercept, right?

00:56:54.900 I mean.

00:56:55.060 Yeah.

00:56:55.360 It's just not.

00:56:56.000 But, like, when they say, you know what?

00:56:57.020 Look, we saw The Blaze was covering it, and we were just like, ah, The Blaze has got it.

00:57:02.240 Just let them have this one.

00:57:03.820 Like, that's not what you do in the news business.

00:57:05.880 No, it is not.

00:57:06.360 Everyone writes about the same stories every day, just like The New York Times does every

00:57:10.540 day.

00:57:11.260 Then the other admission that they've made is absolutely staggering.

00:57:17.100 Stunning.

00:57:17.940 We'll tell you about that in 60 seconds.

00:57:21.240 Unbelievable.

00:57:22.200 This one is incredible, actually.

00:57:24.260 Because it's just the fact.

00:57:24.920 It's not the fact that it happened.

00:57:25.880 It's just the fact that they're actually admitting it.

00:57:27.820 Yeah.

00:57:28.400 It's crazy.

00:57:29.580 Amazing.

00:57:30.240 When it comes to identity theft, I think we too often hear the light cases.

00:57:33.580 You know, someone gets his or her card stolen, has the bank shut off.

00:57:37.880 I had one where someone bought a Papa John's pizza in Arizona on my dime. 0.92

00:57:43.480 On my freaking dime. 0.61

00:57:45.840 I don't know why that would be your target, but that's what it was. 0.64

00:57:48.600 Imagine, though, if someone stole your identity long enough to ruin your entire financial life.

00:57:52.440 It happens all the time.

00:57:53.520 And it's important to understand how common cybercrime is and how it's affecting our lives,

00:57:58.080 especially right now when the world is crazy and everyone's at home using the internet all

00:58:01.700 day long.

00:58:02.660 You know, that's all you're doing.

00:58:04.160 And by the way, all the hackers, they're probably at home too.

00:58:08.440 Extra bored.

00:58:09.820 Like, they're not out if they're like all night, you know, I don't know.

00:58:13.140 I don't know what hackers do for fun.

00:58:15.540 I feel like on, what was that show that was on USA Network?

00:58:18.920 The one where they were hacking the financial system all the time. 0.99

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00:59:05.980 Was the hacking show Mr. Robot?

00:59:25.700 Yes!

00:59:26.200 Mr. Robot.

00:59:27.080 That would have bothered me all day.

00:59:28.360 Thank you, Pat.

00:59:28.920 Yeah, no problem.

00:59:29.600 All right, so the New York Times made some stunning admissions in the story.

00:59:38.800 One was that they just ceded the coverage to The Intercept and others.

00:59:44.780 It's been covered by other people.

00:59:46.340 We don't need to.

00:59:47.680 And the other one is that they actually changed the story the way it read because the Biden

00:59:57.420 campaign asked them to.

00:59:58.740 And worked with them on the language that they were going to use in the story.

01:00:03.380 Incredible.

01:00:04.480 Incredible.

01:00:05.680 Wow!

01:00:07.320 What?

01:00:07.940 Are you serious?

01:00:09.720 I saw, you know, there were tweets about, after the original story ran, there were tweets

01:00:15.660 that said things like, okay, you must have, it must have taken you a long time to iron

01:00:22.160 out the language here with the Biden campaign.

01:00:24.980 Ha ha ha.

01:00:26.360 And they did!

01:00:27.580 Ha ha ha.

01:00:28.200 Ha ha ha.

01:00:28.360 They did.

01:00:28.900 He did.

01:00:29.980 I mean, it's a legitimate admission.

01:00:31.780 Yeah.

01:00:32.160 The executive editor of the New York Times asked this question.

01:00:34.740 I want to ask about some edits that were made after publication and the deletion of

01:00:38.060 the second half of the sentence.

01:00:40.020 The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden.

01:00:43.000 Beyond the hugs, kisses touching the women previously said made them uncomfortable.

01:00:47.620 Why did you do that?

01:00:48.840 Good question by Ben Smith.

01:00:49.940 I got to give him some credit on that.

01:00:50.960 The answer, even though a lot of us, including me, had looked at it before the story went

01:00:56.480 into the paper, I think that the campaign thought that the phrasing was awkward and

01:01:01.800 made it look like there were other instances in which he had been accused of sexual misconduct.

01:01:06.140 And that's not what the sentence was intended to say.

01:01:09.600 Well, it said it.

01:01:11.580 You know, I mean, I think the line they're trying to draw here is most of the people who

01:01:17.460 accused Biden of the inappropriate touching said they didn't believe it was a sexual thing.

01:01:23.520 Right?

01:01:23.960 Like, he was just handsy and in their space and they didn't like it.

01:01:26.840 Now, that's not the case with Tara Reid, who was one of the seven women.

01:01:30.100 We should be clear here.

01:01:31.780 But many of the other women said, look, I'm not saying he was trying to feel me up.

01:01:36.540 It just made me feel uncomfortable.

01:01:37.740 He's very much in my personal space.

01:01:39.700 He was doing things that I didn't like.

01:01:42.800 And that's not OK.

01:01:44.500 Yeah.

01:01:45.040 That was that was that's the distinction they're trying to draw here.

01:01:48.920 However, again, we all know if it was a Republican, it would not be true.

01:01:54.380 You would not get the benefit of the doubt.

01:01:55.600 If it was Trump, would they have worked with the Trump campaign on the language of the story?

01:02:01.300 No.

01:02:01.780 Oh, gosh, no.

01:02:02.420 The Trump campaign was uncomfortable with some of the language in the story.

01:02:06.820 So now we changed it for him behind.

01:02:10.100 It's incredible.

01:02:11.300 It certainly wouldn't be admitted.

01:02:13.540 No, it would not.

01:02:14.340 Behind the scenes, there's always a push and pull between campaigns and news sources.

01:02:21.240 One of the weirdest things I remember learning getting into this business is how many of the stories are not actually reported stories by the paper.

01:02:28.260 Like the New York Times writes a story.

01:02:30.320 And you're thinking, wow, they had you picture like the movie.

01:02:33.580 Was it Spotlight where they're they're going and they're like uncovering the truth of the Catholic church abuses or like they're like, you know, it's or, you know, Watergate.

01:02:42.440 Right.

01:02:42.580 Like they're they're they're getting contacts inside the White House and they're working them in parking garages.

01:02:48.080 So many 80, 90 percent of the stories you read.

01:02:52.580 Plus, very rare are there exceptions to this where where they're not.

01:02:57.500 The spark is not started by someone involved where like a PR person from the opposing campaign will call and say, hey, you know, this person here, they've they've been saying this behind the scenes.

01:03:10.520 You should know about it.

01:03:11.260 Then the reporter calls the person and says, hey, I've been hearing that this is going on.

01:03:15.940 Is this true?

01:03:17.180 And the story builds from there.

01:03:18.720 Like the story is it's essentially reverse engineered.

01:03:21.000 They're told the story in advance and then they, you know, maybe go do reporting and check it out and see how they can further it.

01:03:25.960 And it may just be a tip.

01:03:27.300 But like it's not like it's not a lot of it comes from the opposition.

01:03:32.640 A lot of it comes from friendly sources where they'll say, you know, look, did you know this is going on?

01:03:38.140 This is one of our big achievements no one's talking about.

01:03:40.180 And they leak it to the reporters.

01:03:41.280 The reporters do their due diligence and say, OK, that is true.

01:03:44.120 And then they print it as a story.

01:03:45.300 But that is the there's a the flow goes in reverse.

01:03:49.960 Then I think a lot of people realize it does.

01:03:52.140 But a situation like this is they're going out.

01:03:54.400 They're letting the intercept lead the reporting for some reason, which is not something that happens.

01:04:00.060 The New York Times could write a short story and refer to the intercepts reporting.

01:04:03.600 They would do something like that relatively normally.

01:04:07.020 But to just like seed all coverage of it and not mention it at all for multiple weeks is not normal.

01:04:12.700 No, it is not.

01:04:13.340 And then to say and admit that, yeah, basically the campaign call that said they didn't like the wording.

01:04:18.020 So we changed the wording.

01:04:19.400 That's incredible.

01:04:20.240 That's an incredible admission for The New York Times.

01:04:23.340 Not maybe to us, but to them, like that's not something they should be doing on record.

01:04:27.360 I wouldn't think so.

01:04:28.600 No, I wouldn't think so.

01:04:31.060 All right.

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01:06:30.800 And then in all capital letters, it's not coronavirus.

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01:07:00.080 Jeremy Dice is with us.

01:07:02.100 Jeremy is a special counsel at First Liberty Institute, and also a well-known earnest goes

01:07:08.620 to camp aficionado.

01:07:10.480 He is on the program with us now.

01:07:13.320 I'm surprised that's not the first thing that you mentioned, because that's the bigger issue

01:07:17.760 right there.

01:07:18.240 It is.

01:07:19.100 We could spend the whole segment on any variation of earnest movies if you'd prefer, Jeremy.

01:07:24.540 No, there's only three to discuss, of course.

01:07:26.580 But I'm glad to be known for my profound knowledge of pop culture in this regard.

01:07:32.060 But let's get on to things that I may want to be more respected for.

01:07:35.460 It's possible.

01:07:36.860 There is some pretty obviously serious stuff going on right now.

01:07:40.300 Outside of just what we're dealing with, with the virus itself, there is an instinct by a

01:07:47.420 lot of people who have a new grip on power and seemingly nothing's stopping them from

01:07:55.200 wielding it.

01:07:56.480 And what we're seeing now in the world of faith and the restrictions from people worshiping,

01:08:02.860 even when it comes to driving their car and doing a car-based service, we're seeing restrictions

01:08:07.900 on that.

01:08:08.800 And it's something I know you're following very closely.

01:08:12.760 We are.

01:08:13.400 And I think you framed this exactly right, that there is...

01:08:17.200 Look, I think all Americans understood the need to kind of pump the brakes for a second

01:08:21.560 during this pandemic and begin to figure out, okay, what's the lie of the land?

01:08:26.460 What do we got to do here to make sure this stops?

01:08:28.140 Why?

01:08:28.400 Because Americans are very tolerant people, and not only that, they're very loving people.

01:08:32.460 They want to make sure their fellow man is safe and their neighbor is well-loved.

01:08:36.080 And so, yes, they're willing to slam the brakes in some respects to make sure that everybody

01:08:40.120 is safe.

01:08:41.140 But when you give...

01:08:43.100 And this is just a lesson of history.

01:08:44.480 When you give a little bit of power back to a central form of government, that becomes

01:08:49.040 a little bit more than a little after a little while here.

01:08:53.200 And so you've got municipalities around the country.

01:08:56.140 And don't forget, there are some 40,000 or more of these municipalities around the country,

01:08:59.940 cities or counties or what have you, that are then abued with more power to try to be,

01:09:05.420 you know, demonstrating a little bit more authority than the last guy.

01:09:09.500 And so it comes down to people like the mayor of Greenville, Mississippi, where he's put in

01:09:14.920 an order there that says that churches cannot meet even with a drive-in service.

01:09:19.420 And why?

01:09:19.980 Well, he said yesterday at a press conference, reaffirming his commitment to this unconstitutional

01:09:24.400 order, that, well, people are too friendly.

01:09:27.580 They get out of the car and they're going to talk to each other.

01:09:30.160 Specifically, Christians are too friendly and they can't stay in their cars. 1.00

01:09:34.260 Well, this is a real problem.

01:09:35.820 If you're parked in your car, number one, I don't think we've known that the virus can

01:09:40.540 actually travel through glass and steel yet.

01:09:43.680 But they've specifically targeted cars parked at church parking lots, not at the Sonic drive-in,

01:09:50.660 not at the Walmart parking lot, not at the liquor store, but specifically churches.

01:09:54.980 And on top of all that, last Thursday, when our client in Greenville went to have his drive-in

01:10:00.600 services on Thursday evening, the entire shift of the police force for Greenville, Mississippi

01:10:06.380 showed up.

01:10:09.120 That's concerning to me.

01:10:10.600 When all the police officers that are on duty that shift show up to a church to possibly

01:10:16.520 ticket every individual in those cars $500 for daring to drive from their home with the

01:10:22.000 windows up, park in a church parking lot to hear their pastor preach through the open

01:10:26.380 air, $500 per person?

01:10:29.660 Is this America anymore?

01:10:31.380 This is the kind of thing that has to be put up with, cannot be put up with.

01:10:35.740 We're willing to put up with reasonable restrictions for a temporary period of time.

01:10:39.800 This is not reasonable, nor is it equally applied.

01:10:43.280 When you can park at a liquor store, but not at the church parking lot, that is clear evidence

01:10:48.160 of discrimination.

01:10:49.320 It really is crazy.

01:10:50.940 You know, I think there is an aspect of this where, you know, the American people can understand.

01:10:56.560 Most churches, I think, are saying, look, you know, watch us online for a few weeks and,

01:11:01.200 you know, it's okay.

01:11:01.800 Um, so I think most people are choosing to do this in, you know, they're trying to practice

01:11:07.380 as safely as possible.

01:11:09.220 To me, it makes me nervous if there's any restriction from government on worship at all.

01:11:14.440 I know that if they came and they said, look, we're not going to allow you to buy guns during

01:11:19.360 this period.

01:11:19.820 I would have a huge problem with it just because, you know, Christians are sort of, you know, 1.00

01:11:24.200 as you point out, nice people and want to do the best things for everybody else.

01:11:27.360 That doesn't necessarily, um, it doesn't make it okay for them to be restricting this in

01:11:32.580 any way.

01:11:33.200 What is the, what is the traditional role here in this type of situation, um, you know, for

01:11:39.340 the state to be able to intercede this way?

01:11:42.260 Do they have any right to do any of this stuff?

01:11:45.300 Yeah, certainly the state does have a compelling justification here, right?

01:11:49.160 And that's what's necessary for the state to enforce or to kind of put on hold our First

01:11:54.580 Amendment rights or any of our constitutional rights for that matter.

01:11:57.360 And so a worldwide pandemic is going to almost always be upheld, uh, in any court there is

01:12:02.960 around the country, but that, that, that, that justification has to be met very narrowly

01:12:07.840 and very equally applied.

01:12:09.120 In other words, um, if there are lesser ways to be able to control the pandemic, the government

01:12:13.540 has to follow those in it, but on top of all that, and much more basically it can't

01:12:18.640 say, well, look, cars parked at a liquor store are fine, but church parking lots are wrong.

01:12:23.760 You know, we had the same issue in Louisville, Kentucky last week, and, uh, we filed a lawsuit

01:12:28.820 last Friday and, uh, you know, overnight the judge there, judge Walker turned out a really

01:12:33.620 fabulous opinion to remind everybody of how overreaching the city of Louisville had become

01:12:38.440 and put a temporary restraining order against it.

01:12:40.940 In fact, we're going to have a hearing in a few minutes here to turn that in.

01:12:43.820 We hope to a preliminary injunction of the fully enforced that, but, but it's again, it's

01:12:48.400 a demonstration that the city of Louisville who was going to send out their police officers

01:12:52.080 to take down license plates numbers and then force anyone parked in a church parking lot

01:12:56.760 on Easter Sunday morning into a 14 day quarantine period.

01:13:00.440 I mean, goodness gracious, that is not the kind of thing that we expect our police officers

01:13:04.060 to be doing in the United States of America in 2020.

01:13:08.100 That that's, that is certainly not the level of freedom that we, so look, while there may

01:13:12.100 be some reason for a temporary restriction on some large in-person gatherings, I think you're

01:13:18.060 hearing America wondering, wait a minute, is this temporary anymore?

01:13:21.540 And how long is this going to last?

01:13:23.380 And on top of all that, why are they being so targeted at churches and not anywhere else?

01:13:28.160 That doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense as if the virus somehow targets churches

01:13:32.240 themselves instead of liquor stores.

01:13:35.620 Well, there are a couple of instances where there've been some other weird restrictions,

01:13:39.900 like the Chicago mayor said that if you're found outside, then you can be ticketed, or like

01:13:48.860 in Philadelphia the other day, where 10 cops dragged a guy off a bus because he wasn't

01:13:54.180 wearing a mask.

01:13:55.700 Is it, I mean, can law enforcement really enforce restrictions that are that severe?

01:14:04.580 I guess we're going to find out.

01:14:06.320 I mean, I assume it was, it was Stuart, Pat, one of you guys that were out paddleboarding

01:14:10.280 in the Pacific Ocean and got dragged into the store by the police as well.

01:14:14.580 I mean, it's, it's incredible where, where the police are given greater authority somehow

01:14:20.600 right now during the middle of a pandemic.

01:14:22.780 Maybe what the virus has done for all of us is provided a bit of a cultural truth serum

01:14:28.240 to find out exactly where, what do we really believe about freedom?

01:14:33.320 And what does that mean for us all?

01:14:35.940 Look, let me just talk in the area of religious liberty, since that's kind of where I spend

01:14:38.740 my life.

01:14:39.780 You know, we're kind of living out the left vision for religious freedom, or what they

01:14:44.300 call the freedom to worship right now.

01:14:46.940 Do church at home, inside your house.

01:14:49.540 Maybe you can access it virtually, but don't you dare bring it into your place of worship,

01:14:53.660 or in place of work, or take it to school, or into the military with you.

01:14:56.840 Don't, don't get outside the four walls of your home.

01:14:59.300 Keep it locked down.

01:15:00.300 And if you appear in public, the police are going to come out and disperse your group

01:15:04.540 and ticket you if you do.

01:15:06.360 This is not the vision of the founding fathers.

01:15:08.520 This is not what we intended to have as religious liberty in the long haul.

01:15:13.020 And so I think it's important for us to stop and look around.

01:15:15.900 This is the vision of the left right now.

01:15:18.200 This is not the vision that our founding fathers had.

01:15:20.280 This is not the vision that we've been living for 200 plus years in the United States of America.

01:15:24.260 This is not the level of freedom that you and I not only expect, but are due under not only

01:15:30.560 the Constitution, but our Declaration of Independence.

01:15:32.880 This is not the freedom that we have ordered our lives by.

01:15:37.600 I think part of this, too, is when they talk about essential businesses.

01:15:41.040 And by the way, I don't think any governor has been daring enough to not include alcohol,

01:15:46.980 which is really bizarre.

01:15:48.440 I mean, the liquor store, I think, in every state is protected as an essential business,

01:15:51.880 which, I mean, I understand we're stressed out here, but I don't know that that's necessarily

01:15:55.340 as important as other constitutionally guaranteed rights.

01:15:58.840 But when it comes to church, you know, it not only, I think, has an effect as far as

01:16:03.780 constitutionally and what the right thing to do is to allow people to worship if they're taking,

01:16:09.180 you know, normal precautions and doing the best that they can.

01:16:12.080 But in addition, if you want people to voluntarily

01:16:14.820 do these, this large swath of restrictions and life changes, giving them a foundational

01:16:24.440 thing they can still connect to is actually going to help us all kind of, if we're in

01:16:30.720 the middle of a shut-in, it's going to help us because we're going to have some outlet.

01:16:34.040 We're going to have some way to stay sane.

01:16:35.620 We're going to have some sort of foundational basis that we can get to.

01:16:38.660 And making an enemy out of the churches and the pastors around this country strikes me

01:16:43.340 as a terrible idea for the government.

01:16:46.480 And for the culture at large.

01:16:48.500 Look, the government is not really very capable of providing care, calm, and comfort.

01:16:53.200 That actually is the domain of the church.

01:16:55.120 And our houses of worship have proven over millennia the ability to provide that level of comfort

01:17:01.340 and care and calm amidst pandemics and epidemics and wars and everything like that.

01:17:06.780 And so for the government to kind of kick them aside as if they're some sort of needless

01:17:10.740 appendage, as if they're the appendix of the culture around us that is not really needed

01:17:15.940 and we don't know why they're even here, that strikes me as extremely not only intolerant

01:17:21.600 of religion, but in some respects really hostile towards religion as a whole.

01:17:25.540 And so again, I think the virus is revealing here some biases that were deep hidden amongst

01:17:31.000 some politicians and are coming out.

01:17:33.180 Look, Mayor de Blasio a couple weeks ago, and I really kind of feel badly of kind of

01:17:36.620 pushing against a mayor who has had a lot of stuff going on in their city.

01:17:41.420 But I mean, he comes out and says, hey, you know, if these synagogues don't abide by my 1.00

01:17:46.020 orders, I'm going to send the health department out and we're going to permanently shut them

01:17:49.280 down.

01:17:50.300 Permanently shut down synagogues?

01:17:52.680 Is this America in 2020?

01:17:55.240 That's never going to fly into the Constitution.

01:17:57.280 And the worst thing is that to my knowledge, I don't think the mayor has actually walked

01:18:00.100 those comments back.

01:18:01.100 No, I don't think he has.

01:18:03.360 And it's interesting when you think back to what's been going on in this country for a

01:18:08.780 while from some on the left, they have been setting the stage for this kind of thing.

01:18:14.620 I know Tammy Baldwin, Senator Baldwin from Wisconsin, said a couple of years ago that your

01:18:20.340 rights to freedom of religion don't extend much beyond either the church house or your

01:18:26.380 own house.

01:18:27.180 And that's pretty much where they stay.

01:18:30.440 So they've been and so did so did Debbie Wasserman Schultz say virtually the same thing.

01:18:35.020 So they've been setting up this attack against religion and trying to minimize the First Amendment

01:18:42.000 as much as they possibly can.

01:18:43.980 Now, I think they see their opportunity with this with this pandemic that they can maybe

01:18:49.120 take some steps to shut it down.

01:18:50.620 It's a shame.

01:18:52.820 And what do they shut down the process?

01:18:54.860 Well, roughly about a trillion and a half in socioeconomic relief that the faith-based

01:19:00.240 organizations, churches, synagogues and the like provide to this country.

01:19:04.140 When those charitable dollars and those charitable actions dry up, then that has to go and fall

01:19:10.820 on something and somewhere.

01:19:12.580 And it's going to probably go to central planning again at the governmental level.

01:19:16.840 And that's going to result in what?

01:19:19.020 Greater taxes, less opportunity and less good being done to our community here.

01:19:25.480 That's why I think it was very critical for the president to include or the Congress to

01:19:29.460 include within the CARES Act some relief for these nonprofit organizations.

01:19:33.640 And yet, my gracious, you would have thought you would have to move a mountain in order to

01:19:37.920 be able to have pastors the ability to find relief for their churches within the midst of

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01:19:53.120 That was an incredible fight within the Congress and within the administration, or at least within

01:19:58.180 the rules afterwards.

01:19:59.400 Thank goodness that all resulted in relief that are going to be able to continue those

01:20:03.240 charitable acts.

01:20:03.840 Otherwise, you and I and our tax dollars are going to be having to pick up that bill.

01:20:07.860 And Jeremy Dice, Special Counsel, First Liberty Institute, in the middle of fighting all

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01:20:14.660 Jeremy, thanks for coming on the show, man.

01:20:16.620 My pleasure.

01:20:17.220 Always good to be here, guys.

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01:25:18.780 So, Stu, how hard up are you for sports right now?

01:25:33.140 It's immeasurable.

01:25:34.240 I'm almost to the point where I just can't take it anymore.

01:25:37.240 Which is why, was it Saturday?

01:25:40.240 I think Saturday, it was an old BYU football games day.

01:25:46.100 Watched both BYU-USC from last season, and then the Mangum Miracle at Memorial, BYU over

01:25:52.880 Nebraska in 2015 on the last second Hail Mary.

01:25:57.860 Today, my plan is to watch BYU-Miami from 1990.

01:26:02.420 And that's how desperate I am for any kind of sports right now.

01:26:05.980 Just give me a sport! 0.78

01:26:08.080 I spent a very long time watching 1993's World Series Game 6, the greatest baseball game

01:26:14.540 ever played.

01:26:15.180 Oh, did you?

01:26:15.740 Yes, where the Toronto Blue Jays did beat the Phillies on the last walk-off home run by

01:26:22.760 Joe Carter.

01:26:23.960 Obviously, greatest game ever played, walk-off home run in the World Series.

01:26:26.660 Everyone knows it.

01:26:27.780 But it's amazing.

01:26:29.500 You'll just dive into anything.

01:26:30.860 I also watched a good chunk of the Eagles-Giants game when the Miracle of the Middlelands 2.

01:26:38.080 Where Deshaun Jackson returned.

01:26:40.160 What year was this?

01:26:40.760 This was, oh God, 2010?

01:26:43.340 So it wasn't Super Bowl year.

01:26:44.820 No.

01:26:45.220 It was a game where the Eagles were down 24.

01:26:49.120 I think it was 31-7.

01:26:50.160 They came all the way back, tied the game.

01:26:52.740 And then on the last play of the game, the Giants had to punt. 0.91

01:26:55.920 Punted it stupidly to Deshaun Jackson, who first fumbled, regained control, and then ran

01:27:00.940 back for a touchdown to win the game on the last play. 0.99

01:27:03.340 38-31.

01:27:04.500 I may have watched some of that, too.

01:27:06.420 You may have.

01:27:07.340 You can't remember.

01:27:08.060 I can't remember exactly.

01:27:08.960 I can't remember any of the details of the game.

01:27:10.560 But it is that thing where we are begging for anything.

01:27:14.220 Just please.

01:27:15.080 Sports.

01:27:15.700 Give us anything.

01:27:16.380 To the point of like, I'm not a big golf guy.

01:27:19.540 I'll watch the Masters maybe on the final round.

01:27:22.820 I've been to a couple of tournaments like in person, which are really fun.

01:27:26.320 I think it was last year, didn't you?

01:27:27.460 Yeah, last couple of years of the PGA Championship, which is.

01:27:31.640 But how old were you last year?

01:27:32.980 I mean, when people went to live sporting events.

01:27:35.380 It feels like a thousand years ago.

01:27:37.120 I don't know if I was even born last year.

01:27:38.740 I mean, just think about what you were.

01:27:40.220 Like, I was standing there with like thousands of people crowded into this little area.

01:27:45.400 I mean, it doesn't even seem possible it's ever going to happen again.

01:27:48.360 I know it will, but it doesn't feel like it right now.

01:27:50.620 It really doesn't.

01:27:51.680 But that's the one sport that there's no reason they can't be doing right now.

01:27:57.100 Golf is like.

01:27:58.460 There's automatic social distancing.

01:28:00.840 Yep.

01:28:01.380 Right?

01:28:01.780 Yeah.

01:28:02.420 It's social distancing.

01:28:03.680 You could even put for a pro tournament.

01:28:05.640 There's no reason you couldn't put one person on one hole at a time.

01:28:12.040 And just tell fans they can't come.

01:28:13.600 Yeah.

01:28:14.060 But it would just be a TV event.

01:28:15.920 Right.

01:28:16.240 Right.

01:28:16.620 Right.

01:28:16.980 And you pop it on there and you could play all these tournaments.

01:28:19.060 I'd watch at this point.

01:28:20.240 I don't even like golf.

01:28:21.240 I would get into golf.

01:28:22.340 Yeah, absolutely.

01:28:23.240 You know, and I think it's a silly thing that cities and states have been trying to take

01:28:27.440 away from people because of the, you know, social distancing and everything.

01:28:33.060 And they're saying it's not an essential activity.

01:28:34.580 Even Texas did it. 0.99

01:28:36.120 And of course, it's not an essential activity, but that's not the way to look at these things.

01:28:41.480 You need to look at them as what can we give people to keep them sane that will still

01:28:46.760 remain safe.

01:28:47.780 And clearly golf is in that package.

01:28:49.780 You could even say to people, one person on a hole at a time.

01:28:54.580 No foursomes.

01:28:55.720 It's going to be one at a time.

01:28:56.820 It's going to, it's not going to be as fun.

01:28:58.220 You could easily do two. 1.00

01:29:00.280 Remember, most golfers suck. 0.99

01:29:01.940 So they slice the ball into opposite woods every time. 0.99

01:29:04.080 Anyway, they're nowhere near each other.

01:29:05.340 Right.

01:29:05.840 You know, standing six feet away at the tee and the tee only is not a big challenge.

01:29:11.480 So, but they're taking those things away.

01:29:13.740 They're taking them with it.

01:29:14.660 Don't go driving.

01:29:15.400 Don't go out for a drive, Pat.

01:29:16.680 Yeah.

01:29:16.880 Whatever you do.

01:29:17.600 Don't go out for a drive.

01:29:18.240 I can't drive?

01:29:18.600 Why?

01:29:19.120 We're in a car with people we're already living with.

01:29:21.560 Why can't we go out for a drive?

01:29:23.080 Does the virus smash through the windshield if you're driving around town?

01:29:27.220 I don't think so.

01:29:27.640 I don't think so either.

01:29:28.680 You know, those are basic.

01:29:29.820 The church, the drive-in church is a good example of it.

01:29:32.120 Yeah.

01:29:32.280 Just letting people go to parks.

01:29:33.640 Let people do that.

01:29:34.340 Come on.

01:29:34.780 California, I think it is, closed down every state park.

01:29:37.740 Why on earth?

01:29:38.960 With all of that territory, with all of that room to keep separate, you want to put a police

01:29:43.600 officer or something down there to make sure there's not a huge gathering to break it up

01:29:47.560 on state property.

01:29:49.020 All right.

01:29:49.820 I mean, you know, okay.

01:29:50.700 Well, California essentially shut down the Pacific Ocean because they wouldn't let a guy 0.98

01:29:54.660 paddleboard by himself in it.

01:29:57.940 That's amazing.

01:29:58.500 Now, you could see a situation where a big gathering, maybe it gets out of control because everyone's

01:30:03.560 at the beach.

01:30:04.360 I know, obviously, Florida had an issue with this.

01:30:07.580 They've now...

01:30:08.120 With spring break.

01:30:09.120 And Pat, separately on this, on privacy concerns, it's amazing how much information they already

01:30:15.100 have in our releasing.

01:30:16.380 Oh, man.

01:30:16.400 Like, they released a whole article about how they've tracked all the people who were at

01:30:23.560 spring break and where they went after.

01:30:26.200 So, you know, of course, people are visiting from all over the country and they show...

01:30:29.060 Now, again, it's aggregated data and that is different than anonymized data.

01:30:32.820 These things get conflated a lot where, like, anonymized data is they take your information

01:30:37.340 and they take your name off of it, but they can still see everywhere you traveled.

01:30:41.880 And as we pointed out multiple times, there's only one person on earth that drives from my

01:30:45.820 house to this place over and over again.

01:30:48.080 So, if you follow my cell phone, you're going to know where I went, right?

01:30:50.780 Yes.

01:30:51.940 Aggregated data is a little bit different in that you're just seeing patterns of travel.

01:30:56.440 You know, you can see...

01:30:57.660 If you see where, you know, where do people walk on a walk path?

01:31:01.100 Where do they travel on the weekends?

01:31:03.000 You can see traffic patterns and things like that.

01:31:05.100 That's a little...

01:31:05.660 You know, it's not quite as invasive and it's something that's been around for a while,

01:31:08.860 but they have a lot of access to it.

01:31:11.100 And getting aggregated data can be useful.

01:31:13.680 But in this case, there's like, okay, people were at spring break and now they all went back

01:31:18.020 to all these places.

01:31:18.720 And then you see the breakout start in those areas because people were hanging out, you know,

01:31:22.660 shoulder to shoulder on the beach.

01:31:24.460 Most people were making out with 19 strangers every day.

01:31:28.180 Yep.

01:31:28.240 That's the pattern that I've heard from spring break.

01:31:30.720 My spring breaks were never like that, but I'm sure people who aren't losers have those

01:31:36.900 weekends.

01:31:37.940 And, you know, you look at that and you say, well, I can understand them not wanting it

01:31:43.800 to be crazy.

01:31:45.420 You want to take... 0.51

01:31:45.920 Most people are doing this on their own.

01:31:48.000 Yeah.

01:31:48.180 You know, you mentioned golf.

01:31:49.860 Well, golf, the PGA canceled a bunch of tournaments because the PGA wanted to cancel the tournaments.

01:31:55.400 They didn't feel that they could guarantee the safety of their players or their fans.

01:31:59.880 So they canceled it.

01:32:01.040 The NBA felt the same way.

01:32:02.680 They said, we can't guarantee the safety of our fans or our players.

01:32:07.100 We're not doing it.

01:32:08.260 You know, Mark Cuban was on CNBC the other day and they said, hey, Mark, when are the Mavs

01:32:11.400 coming back?

01:32:11.980 When is the NBA coming back into action?

01:32:13.860 He said, the Mavs will start playing again when I can guarantee their safety.

01:32:16.840 It wasn't like when the government said it was okay for them to play or the NBA started

01:32:23.000 up again.

01:32:23.660 When I feel comfortable that my players will be safe, then they can play.

01:32:28.340 Yeah.

01:32:28.520 Right?

01:32:28.820 That's the attitude most Americans have.

01:32:31.340 And it's a good answer.

01:32:32.440 I mean, that's a strong...

01:32:35.640 But, I mean, on the other hand, you can never guarantee anybody's safety.

01:32:40.200 He may not have used the word guarantee.

01:32:41.780 He may have said, believe that they're going to be safe or something like that.

01:32:44.920 But I think that that's the kind of false part of the argument that we've been having.

01:32:50.760 And it's not a very American approach to it.

01:32:52.920 Not at all.

01:32:53.200 When we say, oh, well, are we going to open up the economy or are we going to stay home

01:32:59.720 and protect for the disease?

01:33:01.340 And it's like, well, the way we keep talking about that is, will the government allow us

01:33:05.500 to come out and work or will the government force us to stay home?

01:33:09.200 Yeah.

01:33:09.380 We've already ceded that to the government.

01:33:11.020 Yeah.

01:33:11.300 And we've ceded that.

01:33:11.940 And what they're going to allow.

01:33:12.900 And the argument, too, and it's like, well, when you look at the data around this, you

01:33:17.380 see that people weren't going to bars and restaurants before they were closed by the government.

01:33:23.980 Why?

01:33:24.560 Because people didn't feel safe.

01:33:26.580 They didn't feel like going there was a good idea, so they didn't go.

01:33:30.560 The same thing was happening, you know, with concerts and large gatherings and private

01:33:35.440 events that were being canceled.

01:33:37.000 People were nervous about getting this, so they were like, you know what, I'm going to skip

01:33:40.160 it this time.

01:33:40.820 And the same thing happens on the other side of this, I think.

01:33:45.260 We will wind up being a country with an open economy again when people believe they can

01:33:52.080 go to these places without dying.

01:33:54.340 If you can make people believe they will not die for the most simple thing, like going

01:33:59.500 to church, like going to a movie, like going to a bar, going to a restaurant, then they'll

01:34:05.960 come out.

01:34:06.620 That's the thing.

01:34:07.260 If government tells them yes or no, they're going to come out, and you can't keep people 1.00

01:34:10.520 locked up if they don't believe they're at risk.

01:34:12.660 It's going to be interesting this fall when, if things are opened up again, and you can't

01:34:19.740 have fans go back to, say, football games, how many are going to go to football games?

01:34:25.220 How many are going to feel comfortable enough to go to a stadium with 60,000 other people?

01:34:29.840 That will be really fascinating to watch, because I'm guessing you're going to see a lot of

01:34:34.760 empty seats at first, at least.

01:34:37.060 Yeah.

01:34:37.320 Until people start to feel comfortable again.

01:34:39.280 It's true.

01:34:39.560 It's going to take some time.

01:34:40.460 That's true.

01:34:40.840 I know they started, I think it's in Taiwan, started their baseball league the other day.

01:34:43.960 Oh, they did.

01:34:44.460 So I would say this.

01:34:45.280 Wow.

01:34:45.480 You have Taiwanese baseball to watch, if you want to get into that.

01:34:48.260 Where could I find it?

01:34:49.200 I don't know.

01:34:49.900 I think we've got to find it.

01:34:50.700 ESPN 36?

01:34:52.720 It would be ESPN regular right now.

01:34:54.760 They've got nothing else to air.

01:34:55.560 That's for sure.

01:34:56.720 But they did it with no fans.

01:34:58.740 They did have some cardboard cutouts of fans in the stands, which is just kind of like-

01:35:01.760 It's kind of fun.

01:35:02.160 A little weird, but fun.

01:35:03.660 Yeah.

01:35:05.240 You know, so I think that there's a level there that eventually that happens.

01:35:08.460 I will tell you, I decided the other day, I was like, you know what?

01:35:11.440 I'm going to go look at my Super Bowl flight.

01:35:13.360 Because I go to the Super Bowl every year.

01:35:15.400 I don't know if you know this, Pat.

01:35:16.300 No, I hadn't heard.

01:35:16.920 You never mentioned it.

01:35:18.020 I never mentioned it.

01:35:18.520 So it's strange.

01:35:19.380 So I go every year.

01:35:20.240 It's a tradition.

01:35:21.720 And I was like, you know what?

01:35:22.900 What if the flight is like $18?

01:35:25.260 It's worth the risk to go.

01:35:27.160 Yeah.

01:35:27.480 It was not $18.

01:35:28.580 It was actually pretty much normal price for the flight, which I was surprised at.

01:35:31.760 Although the strangest thing, I've never seen this.

01:35:34.620 And all my time travel, going to websites, going to all these sites to try to find out

01:35:38.580 and get a flight.

01:35:39.740 I've never seen this happen before.

01:35:41.780 The first class flight was cheaper than Coach.

01:35:45.860 It was cheaper.

01:35:47.680 I've never seen it before in my entire life.

01:35:51.300 I've never seen that.

01:35:52.740 Bizarre, right?

01:35:53.360 I must have been some quirk.

01:35:55.120 I mean, I will say this.

01:35:56.660 I got a first class flight to the Super Bowl.

01:35:59.120 It's the first time that's ever happened.

01:36:00.560 Did you already book it?

01:36:01.280 As of right now, I'm the only person on the flight that I could find.

01:36:04.120 I bet you are.

01:36:05.240 But I was like, you know what?

01:36:06.420 Let's lock this thing in now.

01:36:07.900 And where's the Super Bowl next year?

01:36:09.760 Is it Tampa this year?

01:36:12.000 Oh, I think it might be Tampa.

01:36:13.080 I think it's Tampa this year.

01:36:13.880 So, yeah, because, yeah, that's right.

01:36:15.540 Because Brady's going to be playing in Tampa.

01:36:18.180 Oh, gosh.

01:36:18.600 And they're saying that it could be the first home team to ever make it to the Super Bowl.

01:36:21.840 Please don't.

01:36:22.480 Please, please.

01:36:23.160 I don't think I can handle it.

01:36:24.400 Irritating, wouldn't it?

01:36:24.900 But at least you got a first class flight to Tampa.

01:36:26.840 Yeah, that's true.

01:36:27.680 There are worse problems to have.

01:36:29.880 Yes, there are.

01:36:30.720 It is.

01:36:31.200 It's an interesting thing.

01:36:32.020 And going through this and watching it happen.

01:36:33.580 And, I mean, a lot of times, we should talk about this as well.

01:36:36.980 One of the things that kind of is dismissed here is people say, well, look, it's really

01:36:41.500 only hitting older, elderly people and people with pre-existing conditions or chronic illness.

01:36:48.980 Right.

01:36:49.240 And, you know, look, you know, that's sad and we got to protect those people, but we need

01:36:53.180 to open up the economy.

01:36:53.860 But most people just dismiss it because, ah, that's not me.

01:36:56.960 Right.

01:36:57.280 That is really what people are doing, right?

01:36:58.700 That's not me.

01:36:59.400 Somebody else is going to get sick and die.

01:37:00.840 I'm not going to.

01:37:01.680 That is the mechanism behind the claim, isn't it?

01:37:03.620 Yes.

01:37:04.080 At some level, that is what we're all throwing out there.

01:37:07.200 If you happen to be one of the people without the pre-existing conditions.

01:37:10.220 But we'll tell you what the reality is coming up in 60 seconds.

01:37:16.800 A little different than you might think.

01:37:18.280 A little different.

01:37:18.840 A little different.

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01:38:40.360 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

01:38:42.240 He's a little under the weather today, but it is not COVID-19.

01:38:45.380 He says.

01:38:46.140 He's self-diagnosed as clear of COVID-19.

01:38:50.020 I'm sure the rest of his family feels very comfortable with that analysis.

01:38:53.260 Okay.

01:38:53.480 We were talking about the fact that we just kind of dismiss the whole danger of COVID-19

01:38:58.600 sometimes by thinking, okay, if you're really old, you know, or if you have pre-existing

01:39:04.220 conditions or you've got a combination of those two things, then you're in real danger.

01:39:08.580 But I'm not.

01:39:09.600 But I'm not.

01:39:10.300 But I'm not.

01:39:10.820 I'm not one of those people.

01:39:11.680 So I'm fine.

01:39:13.020 You know, it's like with these, it's Seinfeld when, when I can't remember if it was Marcy.

01:39:19.160 And she says, she says, you know, my boy, my old, my ex-boyfriend came over and yada, yada,

01:39:24.080 yada.

01:39:24.580 You know, I'm really tired today. 0.97

01:39:25.700 And they're like, well, you can't yada, yada, sex, like you, right, right. 0.96

01:39:31.660 You can't yada, yada.

01:39:34.280 What turns out to be a population of 157 million people.

01:39:40.720 157 million.

01:39:41.680 Pre-existing conditions in the United States that qualify for that is chronic illness is

01:39:46.280 the technical term.

01:39:47.580 Wow.

01:39:47.740 157 million people in the United States.

01:39:50.580 It's half of our population we're talking about.

01:39:53.620 And of course, there's additional people that are, would fall into the elderly category

01:39:57.920 or older category.

01:39:59.040 Although there's a lot of crossover there, but I think there's 50 million people over the

01:40:02.540 age of 65.

01:40:03.560 So you're talking about half of the country, basically.

01:40:07.760 And we can't.

01:40:08.340 Or a little bit more.

01:40:08.800 And maybe a little bit more.

01:40:10.240 You can't just be like, well, look, it's only people who with pre-existing conditions.

01:40:13.640 Well, that's a huge piece of the population.

01:40:16.120 And it's stuff like diabetes and heart disease.

01:40:18.640 And now they're saying obesity is the main driving factor.

01:40:23.280 And is that even factored in here?

01:40:25.500 Because if obesity is factored in, it's like 370 million people.

01:40:30.240 It's more than the population, though.

01:40:32.320 That's how fat we are in this country.

01:40:37.260 And probably so.

01:40:38.760 And probably so.

01:40:39.560 And I will say, if coronavirus has done anything, it's made all of us fatter.

01:40:44.180 I don't know if anybody else is going down this dark road.

01:40:46.160 That's all I want to do, because you want to feel normal.

01:40:48.880 And the only way I can feel normal is to eat.

01:40:51.960 Yeah, it really is.

01:40:53.360 I think there's some people who are going to alcohol in these times.

01:40:56.860 Some people have lots of really bad pursuits that they may be pursuing.

01:41:00.520 I will tell you right now, the food thing is deadly to me right now.

01:41:03.180 I can't go more than two days without having nine meals per meal.

01:41:08.100 Me too.

01:41:08.900 And that's not a good...

01:41:09.620 Right there.

01:41:10.140 I think a lot of people are in the same position.

01:41:12.340 They were talking at the COVID-19, as in 19 pounds, which sounds about right so far this week.

01:41:18.880 Yeah.

01:41:20.540 We have...

01:41:21.660 One of my friends was online.

01:41:22.980 He's like, I'm going to get ripped during this coronavirus thing.

01:41:26.600 And I hate him now.

01:41:28.400 I don't like him anymore. 0.82

01:41:29.680 Is he getting ripped?

01:41:30.300 He's no longer a friend.

01:41:31.780 Because he's like working...

01:41:33.240 He's using his time productively to work out.

01:41:35.760 See, that's wrong.

01:41:36.520 Just stop that.

01:41:37.320 You know?

01:41:37.900 You're making the rest of us look bad.

01:41:39.040 Don't do that.

01:41:39.760 Yeah.

01:41:40.620 I'll tell you who it is.

01:41:41.820 It's Chris Lash.

01:41:43.120 Dana Lash's husband. 1.00

01:41:44.800 Bastard. 1.00

01:41:45.860 It's infuriating. 1.00

01:41:47.240 Stop being an overachiever.

01:41:49.280 Get home and eat a pancake like all the rest of us.

01:41:51.980 Yeah.

01:41:52.260 Okay?

01:41:52.520 Stuff about 12 of them in for every meal.

01:41:54.400 That's how this is supposed to go.

01:41:56.020 Okay?

01:41:56.320 Then we can all come out looking fat.

01:41:59.360 And we can't judge each other. 1.00

01:42:01.300 If you go in and you get all in shape over this quarantine, you're just being a jerk to everyone else. 0.99

01:42:07.100 It's not fair. 0.99

01:42:07.820 You're adding insult to injury.

01:42:09.380 Exactly.

01:42:09.700 From this pandemic.

01:42:12.500 Not cool.

01:42:13.800 It's not cool.

01:42:14.680 I'll tell you the snack area here in the studio is doing its part because the only thing left in there is hummus.

01:42:21.680 That's it.

01:42:22.340 We've got hummus in the snack area.

01:42:24.420 We did have for a while hummus and Sprite, but even the Sprite is now gone.

01:42:28.940 Yeah, it's all gone.

01:42:29.660 I will say largely, I guess because of you and me, because I've been doing a lot of the eating of it.

01:42:34.480 They had these, it gets to the point where they have like the breakfast biscuits like that.

01:42:39.340 You don't even know what they are, but I'm just like grabbing bags of them all the time.

01:42:42.240 I mean, I don't care what's in it.

01:42:43.540 Just give it to me.

01:42:44.460 Yeah.

01:42:44.660 Is it packaged?

01:42:45.540 Is it food?

01:42:46.180 Is it here?

01:42:46.700 Yes.

01:42:47.280 Is it really highly processed?

01:42:48.920 Yes.

01:42:49.280 All the better.

01:42:49.840 Give it to me.

01:42:50.540 Uh-huh.

01:42:50.700 So, I mean, that number, if it was 157 million, you know, in 2020 for a projected number,

01:42:56.960 I mean, it's got to be 300 million by now.

01:42:58.740 It has to be. 0.54

01:42:59.680 Because it's disgusting.

01:43:01.300 I don't know.

01:43:01.720 I have no control over myself in situations like this.

01:43:03.700 I can eat relatively normal, like a normal human being in the perfect circumstances only.

01:43:12.440 Mm-hmm.

01:43:12.960 Right?

01:43:13.260 Like if I have the exact right amount of sleep.

01:43:16.020 Yeah.

01:43:16.780 I'm in a normal schedule.

01:43:18.540 Okay.

01:43:18.820 It's not too hot or too cold.

01:43:20.700 I didn't hurt my ankle last weekend.

01:43:23.120 There's no distress.

01:43:23.920 There's no distress.

01:43:24.820 There's no financial stress.

01:43:26.180 There's nothing happening bad in the family.

01:43:27.840 My kids are very happy.

01:43:29.760 Uh-huh.

01:43:30.180 My car is working.

01:43:31.100 It's not breaking down.

01:43:32.580 If every single thing in my life is perfect, I can usually nail it for like a week.

01:43:38.460 If anything is out of whack in any way.

01:43:41.600 All bets are off.

01:43:42.340 All bets are off.

01:43:43.160 And it's Thanksgiving every day.

01:43:44.320 Mm-hmm.

01:43:44.820 And that's the issue here is that there's no point in which everything feels right right

01:43:50.660 now.

01:43:51.300 So every day is Thanksgiving.

01:43:53.280 And we, you know, everybody in America is like John Goodman on his fattest day.

01:43:57.840 Right.

01:43:58.200 Exactly.

01:43:58.960 I mean, we've said multiple times on my show, Pat Grand Leashed, that I just want to go back

01:44:03.340 to these days.

01:44:04.660 A quick point of privilege.

01:44:05.940 Yes.

01:44:06.220 A quick point of personal privilege.

01:44:06.840 If we could go back to the personal privilege stuff and the personal pronouns, I'm happy 0.57

01:44:11.680 to have that discussion again.

01:44:12.840 Oh, I would love that.

01:44:13.340 Give that to me.

01:44:14.160 Let's go back to those kinder, gentler days of 97 genders. 1.00

01:44:19.300 I'm good with that.

01:44:20.980 Please.

01:44:23.480 It's so true. 0.84

01:44:24.800 We need a return to the nonsense.

01:44:27.380 Yep.

01:44:27.900 I want it again.

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01:46:12.180 Pat and Stu for GLENN on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:46:14.000 The good thing is we're finding out right now that China's got nothing to hide.

01:46:18.860 That's why they're restricting all of their research about the origins of this particular

01:46:23.620 disease.

01:46:24.620 They don't want anybody to see that.

01:46:27.320 They've already told you it was from a U.S. military officer.

01:46:30.700 Right.

01:46:30.980 They took it to Wuhan and then released it.

01:46:33.320 So there's no need to look into it.

01:46:34.360 We already know what it is.

01:46:35.560 It was someone in the army who traveled to Wuhan and released it.

01:46:38.680 That's what happened.

01:46:39.140 Which happens all the time.

01:46:40.220 Yeah.

01:46:40.380 You know, they're always traveling to Wuhan and releasing something.

01:46:44.040 Yeah.

01:46:45.200 Were you here when we were talking about how this past Saturday, I got up to the last

01:46:51.040 step of booking a flight from Wuhan to JFK?

01:46:55.600 No, really?

01:46:56.280 This past Saturday.

01:46:56.680 I don't know if they're...

01:46:57.240 I mean, they're still available right this second.

01:46:59.020 I can look.

01:47:00.300 Because I mean, you shouldn't be able to do that.

01:47:03.340 I feel like.

01:47:03.820 No, you shouldn't.

01:47:04.220 At this point.

01:47:05.320 Now...

01:47:05.460 So you were right there and you could have paid for the ticket.

01:47:07.980 All I had to do...

01:47:08.900 Actually, it's still in my search.

01:47:10.880 Wow.

01:47:11.320 My search categories here.

01:47:12.880 Let's do it for this Saturday.

01:47:13.900 See if I can get one.

01:47:15.460 It's not cheap.

01:47:16.880 It does not seem like a fun flight.

01:47:20.880 Are there like 30 stops along the way now?

01:47:23.760 Because...

01:47:24.200 It was several stops.

01:47:25.120 Yeah.

01:47:25.460 I mean, they've shut down so many flights.

01:47:28.120 Yeah.

01:47:28.200 One thing that people forget when we're talking about...

01:47:31.360 It does not seem like I can book one for Saturday.

01:47:33.200 So at least that's...

01:47:34.880 Maybe that's been cured.

01:47:36.340 It was like $3,000.

01:47:37.800 But you could get from Wuhan to...

01:47:39.180 Oh, wow.

01:47:39.720 To New York City.

01:47:41.680 And at this point, of course, China would argue, actually, you can't come from JFK to

01:47:45.100 Wuhan.

01:47:45.520 That's going to be more of the issue.

01:47:47.100 Although I would venture a guess that their numbers are not exactly accurate.

01:47:52.780 Yeah.

01:47:53.060 They've got 82,000 people with the virus.

01:47:55.860 We have 588,000.

01:47:57.960 Yeah.

01:47:58.280 I don't think that's accurate.

01:47:59.780 What do they have?

01:48:00.040 1.6 billion people in the country?

01:48:02.180 Sure.

01:48:02.320 They only got up to 80,000 cases, though, total.

01:48:04.780 Right.

01:48:04.980 Like, there's no one on Earth that believes this.

01:48:07.520 There are some estimates that just in Hubei province, they had up to 50,000 deaths in just

01:48:15.900 Hubei province, which does not include any of the other...

01:48:19.200 And they claim, what, 3,200...

01:48:21.360 Total nationwide.

01:48:22.800 Yeah.

01:48:23.460 Wow.

01:48:24.100 Now, we all know this. 0.99

01:48:24.840 That's ridiculous. 0.65

01:48:26.840 And they did go beyond what our Constitution would allow as far as locking people down. 0.52

01:48:32.040 And at certain points, we're very aggressive against this.

01:48:34.260 There's no question about it.

01:48:35.440 Mm-hmm.

01:48:35.620 Though I will say, I still don't believe it.

01:48:38.480 Yeah, I don't either.

01:48:39.540 I'm going to go with no on that one.

01:48:40.760 About the only step we haven't taken that I know of that they did was we haven't welded

01:48:45.680 anybody in their home yet, to my knowledge.

01:48:49.260 Just wait.

01:48:49.880 Wait for YouTube later on today.

01:48:51.880 Right.

01:48:52.200 Because I would not be surprised if it does happen.

01:48:55.640 And I'm having a lot of trouble booking this flight now.

01:48:58.200 But it was very recent.

01:48:59.220 Very recent.

01:48:59.800 You could do it.

01:49:00.820 And one of the things that happened was we banned Chinese nationals from traveling from

01:49:06.620 Wuhan.

01:49:07.660 Obviously, American citizens were there and they had to get home.

01:49:10.180 So there were lots of flights and lots of people who came over even after the ban.

01:49:13.240 Mm-hmm.

01:49:13.580 But that's a small part of the story.

01:49:15.120 Like 370-some thousand, I think, or more than that from China.

01:49:19.220 And it's a small part of the story because it was going to get here anyway.

01:49:23.360 Once it got out of China, and it's in Europe, I mean, you're not going to be able to, unless 0.75

01:49:27.740 you're stopping every single flight coming in, which is what we wound up having to do.

01:49:31.500 And we're doing that now, basically.

01:49:33.260 I mean, there's very little travel going on.

01:49:36.100 Yeah, if in January, it would be interesting to see, and obviously, we can't go back there

01:49:39.340 and do it.

01:49:39.720 But if in January, we would have said, we're shutting down all international flights, you

01:49:44.580 can't go out of the country and you can't come into the country. 0.94

01:49:48.860 Because if you go out of the country, you're going to have to come back.

01:49:51.340 And then that defeats the whole purpose.

01:49:53.760 He would have gotten so much flack for doing that.

01:49:58.180 Imagine what would have happened, though, even if he had done it, honestly, in early February.

01:50:01.960 Imagine if he had done that and then everything lit up like it did in Italy and all these other

01:50:06.100 places.

01:50:06.520 He would have looked like a genius.

01:50:07.800 Yeah.

01:50:07.920 Although part of this, and this is important going forward, and no one is talking about

01:50:11.600 this.

01:50:11.820 I have not even heard the president talk about it that often, though I'm sure he will

01:50:15.040 be, is the idea of this border that we happen to have with a country called Mexico, who has

01:50:21.320 done almost nothing, acted incredibly late when it comes to coronavirus.

01:50:28.840 And they still haven't done much.

01:50:30.200 They haven't done much.

01:50:30.840 I mean, they've acted a little bit lately.

01:50:32.280 They finally closed down their soccer league and stuff.

01:50:35.160 But it was super late.

01:50:36.560 People were gathering in the 10s, 20s, 30,000 at these stadiums.

01:50:40.940 A couple of weeks ago, they had 110,000 people get together for a music festival.

01:50:45.360 Incredible.

01:50:46.200 That's outrageous.

01:50:47.220 And then the Democrats are like, well, we need to, why isn't the president taking extreme

01:50:51.420 action?

01:50:52.000 You're not going to close the border to Mexico, are you?

01:50:54.780 Well, you know, kind of.

01:50:56.480 Yeah.

01:50:56.920 If we don't, there's no purpose in doing what we're doing.

01:50:59.940 We do realize that, right?

01:51:01.500 Because if we decide to shut this whole thing off and we have this big shutdown and it goes

01:51:06.620 to April or May or God only knows how long they're going to do it.

01:51:09.500 And we're down to very limited amounts of virus spreading around the country.

01:51:13.280 People are going to be constantly coming across that border with the virus because they aren't,

01:51:19.540 they're not doing anything down there.

01:51:21.200 And, you know, you want to talk about, it's a, it's obviously a community with, uh, with

01:51:25.360 less resources.

01:51:27.120 You're talking about, um, you know, people living in tighter quarters.

01:51:30.560 And you're also talking about a dozen countries South of Mexico that Mexico doesn't want to

01:51:36.340 cross their border, but do all the time and we'll wind up coming up to our border as well.

01:51:40.900 Part of this has to be border security.

01:51:44.860 Even if you want to say, you know, if you're a person who loves open borders, at least for

01:51:49.500 a time until we get a vaccine, because we will, these efforts where we're spending trillions

01:51:55.680 of dollars and shutting down our economy will do nothing if people are constantly coming 1.00

01:51:59.560 across the border with the virus.

01:52:01.480 Right.

01:52:02.020 It makes absolutely no sense.

01:52:03.940 We can take their temperature, but we all know there's asymptomatic, uh, cases.

01:52:08.020 And more than that, there's people coming across the border all the time that we don't know

01:52:11.760 about at all.

01:52:12.420 We can't take their temperature.

01:52:13.280 We can't test a person crossing the Rio Grande for COVID-19.

01:52:17.200 It's going to be a major problem.

01:52:19.180 Do you, Pat, buy into the idea about, uh, of the, of the virus originating at one of these

01:52:26.680 two labs in Wuhan?

01:52:29.560 Oh yeah.

01:52:29.760 I think it's possible.

01:52:30.620 I don't totally buy into it.

01:52:31.880 Right.

01:52:32.340 Uh, I, we don't have enough evidence to totally buy into it.

01:52:34.840 I'm not taking it to the bank yet, but I think it's definitely possible.

01:52:37.920 I'm highly suspicious.

01:52:38.820 And I started at, come on.

01:52:41.120 I kind of started as, come on, really?

01:52:43.280 They came from a lab.

01:52:44.660 Uh, my first inclination there was like, it just, it's hard to imagine it happening.

01:52:50.740 It feels so like a conspiracy theory.

01:52:53.160 Yeah, it does.

01:52:53.980 Though as the, the, the, the evidence has come together on this.

01:52:56.440 I mean, we now have a story today from the Washington Post, uh, two years before the

01:53:00.300 novel coronavirus pandemic upended the world, U.S.

01:53:02.840 embassy officials visited a Chinese research facility in the city of Wuhan several times

01:53:08.280 and sent two official warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety at the lab, which

01:53:13.360 was conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats.

01:53:17.920 Jeez.

01:53:18.880 And by the way, did you read that we, uh, gave $3.7 million to that lab for those experiments?

01:53:27.040 Oh my gosh.

01:53:27.660 In U.S. taxpayer dollars. 1.00

01:53:28.720 Because we were like, we don't want to go in those caves with those stupid bats. 1.00

01:53:30.940 Right. 1.00

01:53:31.520 You go get them.

01:53:32.760 We thought that was a good idea.

01:53:35.000 Unbelievable stuff.

01:53:36.340 It's crazy.

01:53:36.880 There's no reason for us to be giving grants to the Chinese government to do research.

01:53:40.580 For anything.

01:53:41.300 No.

01:53:42.280 Not to do anything. 0.76

01:53:43.160 I mean, that's just ridiculous. 0.90

01:53:44.140 I am at the point where I am legitimately pissed off at China, this thing. 1.00

01:53:49.840 It's not, I understand that- 0.96

01:53:51.880 Is that because you hate Asians?

01:53:52.920 Is that why? 0.92

01:53:53.140 It is not.

01:53:53.800 It actually has zero to do.

01:53:55.440 I'm not pissed off at Hong Kong.

01:53:56.680 Okay.

01:53:57.000 I'm not pissed off at, uh, Indonesia.

01:53:59.080 Cambodia.

01:53:59.540 Uh, Cambodia, not pissed off at at all.

01:54:01.520 Uh, Japan, not pissed off at.

01:54:03.040 Do you hate the Thai people? 0.95

01:54:04.060 I am pissed. 0.88

01:54:04.700 No.

01:54:05.220 In fact, I love their food.

01:54:06.580 Me too.

01:54:07.300 It's delicious, especially the pad kind.

01:54:09.240 Uh-huh.

01:54:09.720 Um, you, uh, you talk about China and the Chinese.

01:54:14.140 Government, which of course was the one who oversaw the research facility, uh, the one

01:54:19.540 who, uh, took a report posted by a researcher in China and removed it because it said the

01:54:27.880 virus, quote, probably came from a laboratory in Wuhan. 0.81

01:54:32.580 Uh, you add up all of these things.

01:54:35.440 They have videos that the Chinese government has released of these researchers from this

01:54:40.120 facility in these caves, capturing horseshoe bats, the origin species, and extracting things

01:54:49.420 and then talking about how, you know, sometimes we don't have the protection on, right?

01:54:52.940 And, you know, you get, you can get feces and urine and blood on you and that's really

01:54:57.280 not safe.

01:54:58.180 Oh, man.

01:54:58.880 Really?

01:54:59.360 Is it not safe?

01:55:00.700 Wow.

01:55:01.240 I never thought, I never considered.

01:55:03.780 And there's all sorts of weird stuff about researchers who are believed to be patient zero

01:55:07.900 just disappearing.

01:55:09.860 You know, they've just eliminated them from websites and they've gone away.

01:55:13.460 And part of this is maybe reaching, but you're seeing this now in official U.S. documents

01:55:17.880 where they suspected the same thing, all sorts of really terrible, you know, procedures at

01:55:26.420 these facilities to protect an outbreak like the one we're seeing.

01:55:30.880 And you can go and blame Trump or Fauci or Birx or anyone else.

01:55:37.560 One of the things that Birx talked about specifically was in this formational time where we could have

01:55:43.340 been taking action, the Chinese government was lying to us.

01:55:46.560 They were telling us basically it was a controlled situation, serious, but not widespread.

01:55:53.880 So you had a situation where we looked at it kind of like SARS.

01:55:57.120 Could be bad, but it doesn't look that bad.

01:55:59.320 It looks like it's going to be, you know, maintained largely in China.

01:56:02.860 So we didn't act.

01:56:04.020 Now we probably, obviously, now and with retrospect, this is what Fauci was saying the other day,

01:56:07.780 you know, looking back, of course it would have been great if we started making ventilators

01:56:11.140 that day.

01:56:12.120 But you think of the information we're getting.

01:56:13.980 The medical community was fooled by the lies coming from China.

01:56:18.360 And we had the evidence of SARS type viruses and the swine flu and all those things.

01:56:23.280 MERS coming from that area or the Middle East and things went okay. 1.00

01:56:28.380 Yep.

01:56:29.040 Yeah.

01:56:29.880 So if you're led to believe that it's going to be like that, you don't take extraordinary

01:56:34.640 measures under those circumstances.

01:56:36.760 No, you don't.

01:56:37.580 I mean, it makes sense that you would not handle it the same way.

01:56:40.960 Now, I'm of the belief, and I believe you are as well, Pat, that there's about four

01:56:44.920 things the government should be doing.

01:56:47.140 One of them is preparation for a pandemic.

01:56:51.020 Yes.

01:56:51.320 We've said this not, this didn't start today.

01:56:53.600 This is something we've talked about for a very long time.

01:56:55.200 I remember doing a show about this with Glenn Beck back in Tampa when we were down in Tampa.

01:56:59.760 So that had to be, you know, 2000, 2001.

01:57:02.900 Yeah, like 20 years ago. 0.97

01:57:03.880 Yeah, 20 years ago, because it's one of those things that if it happens, this sort of crap, 0.92

01:57:09.380 it was what happens to your life and your society. 0.96

01:57:11.540 You wind up shutting down.

01:57:12.780 It's a total disaster.

01:57:14.640 The guy who was obsessed with this in office was George W. Bush.

01:57:19.500 In his second term, he actually read that book on the Spanish flu, which is one of the

01:57:24.660 best known books on that.

01:57:25.780 Had a huge impact on him.

01:57:26.740 Yeah, it did.

01:57:27.420 Yeah.

01:57:27.620 And it changed him and he decided this was his, the main thing he wanted to get accomplished

01:57:31.360 was not successful, unfortunately, with his whole plan.

01:57:33.720 If he had been, we would have been much better prepared for this.

01:57:37.320 But again, when you, you know, you look at the countries that reacted the best to this,

01:57:42.380 Hong Kong, you know, I mean, again, areas, Hong Kong, Taiwan, we know Taiwan's part of

01:57:46.700 China if you ask the World Cup organization, Japan, you know, Singapore.

01:57:53.280 These countries, one, are used to dealing with these pandemics, right?

01:57:57.300 So they were better prepared to recognize when one was happening.

01:57:59.940 But number two and probably chief among all reasons, none of these people trusted China.

01:58:05.680 They already had dealt with China lying so many times that they were like, screw it. 0.85

01:58:10.820 I don't care what they're saying, prepare.

01:58:12.860 So they were prepared very early and were able to control it very early.

01:58:16.560 You know, the fact that China was fooling international medical boards by lying about 0.84

01:58:23.000 this disease, forget even if it didn't come from a lab, it may very well have come.

01:58:26.260 We may find that it just came, you know, from a bad or some other species.

01:58:30.080 But they are responsible for not only their lies then, but their lies now.

01:58:34.080 The fact that they're still hiding research from us today is absolutely inexcusable.

01:58:39.320 And when this thing is over, they have to have, there has to be repercussions for China on 0.82

01:58:43.380 this. 0.98

01:58:44.040 And I don't know, maybe we won't have the balls to stand up for them. 0.97

01:58:46.140 But I know. 0.95

01:58:46.660 We won't.

01:58:47.360 We won't.

01:58:47.740 Trump will though.

01:58:49.200 Yeah.

01:58:49.760 Trump will.

01:58:50.300 But he'll get all kinds of flack from the Democrats on doing anything about it.

01:58:54.400 888-727-BECK.

01:58:59.280 So do you have those chicken little moments, you know, the ones where you kind of just want

01:59:02.700 to run around screaming, the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

01:59:04.920 I don't know if you know this, sometimes the sky is actually falling.

01:59:07.500 It's fallen on our heads over the past month or so.

01:59:10.000 So look, we understand that that's not always a great idea to go around doing that, even

01:59:17.580 though sometimes it does do a lot of good.

01:59:19.380 This has been one of those moments over the past few weeks where, you know, the wild fluctuations

01:59:23.160 in the market, we've seen economic crisis like nothing else the United States has ever

01:59:27.660 faced.

01:59:28.820 I mean, even gold, which has been the place you could tie all, you know, you could really

01:59:33.140 tie your boat during a storm is in short supply all of a sudden because people know that

01:59:38.340 in a time of, you know, like this, gold is incredibly valuable.

01:59:44.060 Groups that sell gold are often having to delay producing the actual product, which is

01:59:47.660 a huge problem because if you're buying in a crisis, you need it, you need it now.

01:59:51.680 And essentially they will sell you an IOU.

01:59:53.800 That sounds like a terrible idea.

01:59:55.320 It kind of sounds like cash.

01:59:56.860 If you're seeing the way that our government is spending it, it feels like that.

01:59:59.800 The good news is all of this is going on and in a situation where gold line is flourishing.

02:00:04.840 They're not one of these companies having this difficulty.

02:00:06.880 They're still selling gold and they're able to deliver on their promises.

02:00:10.700 If you want to consider gold part of your portfolio, I think it's a wise decision to

02:00:16.380 have some money in gold.

02:00:17.720 If you have it to spare, it is a good protection against situations like this.

02:00:23.780 I have some.

02:00:24.680 Glenn has some as well.

02:00:26.140 You're going to do your best homework by giving gold line a call.

02:00:28.260 Let them walk you through the process.

02:00:29.800 Understand the risks and the rewards.

02:00:32.040 Now is the time.

02:00:33.100 866-GOLD-LINE is the number to call.

02:00:35.280 866-GOLD-LINE.

02:00:36.940 If you are seeing what's going on in the world and it's freaking you out a little bit, I

02:00:40.960 know it is for me.

02:00:42.420 866-GOLD-LINE is the number to call.

02:00:44.300 866-GOLD-LINE.

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02:01:17.660 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

02:01:20.240 Welcome back.

02:01:32.820 888-727-BECK is the program.

02:01:34.720 It's Pat and Stu in for Glenn.

02:01:36.820 Glenn is out today.

02:01:38.640 What do you...

02:01:39.260 Odds on COVID for Glenn.

02:01:40.440 What do you think?

02:01:40.880 I think he's got COVID-17.

02:01:42.780 Okay.

02:01:43.280 Yeah.

02:01:43.540 That one's pretty mild, right?

02:01:44.620 Yeah, it's mild.

02:01:45.520 Not bad.

02:01:45.720 And it's a stomach thing.

02:01:47.200 And so I think that's what he has.

02:01:48.820 I love that he actually said in the email, he's like, hey, urgent, I'm out sick today.

02:01:52.760 Gonna need you guys to fill in.

02:01:54.000 It's not coronavirus.

02:01:55.780 It's like, how do you know that?

02:01:58.180 Yeah.

02:01:59.000 And, you know, there's people who get it and they're completely asymptomatic.

02:02:02.580 So if you actually have symptoms...

02:02:04.120 And he said it was a...

02:02:04.760 I think he said it was a stomach bug.

02:02:06.920 Right.

02:02:07.240 Which it probably is, right?

02:02:08.460 Even, you know, about 90% of people who get tested for COVID because they have COVID

02:02:12.360 symptoms don't have COVID, right?

02:02:15.280 So even if you have the symptoms, you probably don't have it.

02:02:17.220 The liver and the aches.

02:02:19.120 Exactly.

02:02:19.760 But you can't rule it out.

02:02:21.420 Right.

02:02:21.780 Right?

02:02:22.060 I mean, I just want to get in his head a little bit.

02:02:23.300 Hopefully he's listening.

02:02:24.440 I mean, Glenn, you just might...

02:02:25.460 Like, I don't know.

02:02:26.160 You might have it.

02:02:26.940 He might.

02:02:27.380 He might have it.

02:02:27.980 In fact, I think he probably does.

02:02:29.480 I mean, he looked like a COVID kid.

02:02:32.600 I'm very worried about him.

02:02:34.660 And it's a tough time.

02:02:37.140 And so it's a bad time to be sick.

02:02:39.020 You actually went home sick the other day.

02:02:40.920 I did.

02:02:41.220 And I heard about it from everybody in the office.

02:02:43.560 Amazing panic around here.

02:02:45.300 Here's a bad ass COVID.

02:02:46.360 I did.

02:02:46.940 It's like, no, I don't.

02:02:48.720 It's just like, I don't know what it is, but I don't have a fever.

02:02:52.400 I haven't lost my sense of smell.

02:02:54.820 The fever is the biggest one.

02:02:56.140 If you get into a fever zone, then I think 80% of COVID patients have the fever.

02:03:00.800 That's the biggest one.

02:03:01.460 So if you don't have that, because I mean, almost all of them do, except the asymptomatic 1.00

02:03:05.200 ones, right?

02:03:05.820 Yeah.

02:03:06.260 Yeah.

02:03:06.740 So.

02:03:07.240 All right.

02:03:07.440 Well, this was fun.

02:03:08.840 Hopefully Glenn will be back tomorrow.

02:03:10.820 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

02:03:16.360 All right.

02:03:20.200 Let's hope.

02:03:20.500 Thank you.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 14, 2020

The Media WANTS Trump to Fail on Coronavirus ｜ Guest： Jeremy Dys ｜ 4⧸14⧸20

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