The Glenn Beck Program - The Media’s Working Hard to 'Debunk' FACTS ｜ Guests： Sen. John Kennedy & Justin Haskins

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00:01:37.100 Now Democrats are warning that we better not impeach President Trump because he's not going to go with Mike Pence.

00:01:47.600 Mike Pence will not be the one. It'll be Nikki Haley and that'll be a whole nother can of worms and we won't be able to fight that.

00:01:55.160 Oh, so it is about politics. It's not about what you actually believe is constitutional.

00:02:01.260 We'll get into the latest from Washington. Also, Elizabeth Warren not doing so well.

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00:02:17.980 And so now everybody's trying on Michael Bloomberg.

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00:02:24.640 We'll talk about that as well.

00:02:26.500 We begin in one minute.

00:02:28.720 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:02:32.960 So we were talking to the people at My Patriot Supply a few weeks ago.

00:02:36.260 We were discussing how people prepared, you know, 2010.

00:02:42.160 Even 2016, how people were prepared.

00:02:46.440 As soon as Obama left the White House, a lot of people stopped preparing.

00:02:49.840 They started they were like, oh, well, it's not Hillary.

00:02:52.360 It's not Obama. So everything's fixed.

00:02:55.160 I'm here to tell you that mentality is dead wrong.

00:02:58.500 Look at the deep state, for example.

00:03:00.680 I still.

00:03:03.740 Yeah, I said this.

00:03:05.320 I said this earlier.

00:03:06.960 I amused about it earlier.

00:03:10.100 Then I then I questioned it yesterday.

00:03:13.300 Muse then question.

00:03:14.120 And now I think it looks to me like we're just not even going to the Democrat.

00:03:21.000 The Republicans are just not even going to get into this.

00:03:24.080 You think it's going to go?

00:03:25.680 Nah.

00:03:26.540 Well, there was a pitch that you're talking about actually going through and going into all the.

00:03:32.180 Yeah.

00:03:33.400 I you know, I don't know.

00:03:34.700 I mean, I think we have Senator Kennedy on today.

00:03:37.940 Not Ted and not J.F., but Senator Kennedy.

00:03:43.240 Still Kennedy.

00:03:44.280 Yeah.

00:03:44.540 Yeah.

00:03:44.800 Still Kennedy.

00:03:45.760 And maybe he'll have an idea on their direction, because I think it's important.

00:03:49.100 He's being hammered.

00:03:50.260 He's being hammered.

00:03:51.780 Yeah.

00:03:51.980 Well, you know, this is he was the one who was on TV and they said, well, you know, did Ukraine?

00:03:58.020 You don't think Ukraine hacked our elections, do you?

00:04:00.200 You don't think they were involved, do you?

00:04:02.080 And and, you know, our our intelligence said it was Russia.

00:04:04.720 It's like, well, two things can be true at the same time.

00:04:07.200 And the media will not address this.

00:04:10.360 And and he tried to kind of point that out.

00:04:12.620 I would like to hear, you know, because it was sold in the media that he backed off his statements and said, no, it actually was Russia.

00:04:19.660 It was.

00:04:19.980 And I was wrong.

00:04:20.620 I shouldn't have said that.

00:04:21.800 I would like to be I would like to see if his opinion is is a little bit more nuanced than that.

00:04:28.280 And I know we're in the middle of a commercial, but I mean, I think this is just as important.

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00:06:12.320 News from CNN.

00:06:15.640 The 123 page document written by GOP members on three House committees formalized the president's own cycle of distraction and denial that he used out to that he used out.

00:06:29.720 To ride out the Russian scandal.

00:06:32.580 He's using the same tactic to save his job now that he's faced with impeachment over his political pressure on Ukraine.

00:06:39.700 This just reads like a news story.

00:06:41.900 It does.

00:06:42.260 It's so newsy.

00:06:43.340 It's almost overwhelmed by the journalism.

00:06:45.640 CNN news.

00:06:46.520 Trump is now waiting to hear the formal case against him because he doesn't have to.

00:06:53.020 He's no longer waiting.

00:06:54.600 Ultimately, it will make little difference since his defense was so long ago unmoored from fact and is based on selling a disinformational narrative to his followers that sows confusion and devalues truth for everything else.

00:07:10.980 This has got to be the opinion piece.

00:07:12.600 This is not a news story.

00:07:14.100 Who wrote this?

00:07:15.180 You have an author?

00:07:16.320 No, I just have it.

00:07:17.080 It's just Mark CNN, Washington, CNN.

00:07:19.960 No, it's Dateline, Washington, CNN.

00:07:23.100 I'm just looking again.

00:07:24.460 No, I don't even.

00:07:26.880 There's no byline on it.

00:07:28.380 It's just CNN.

00:07:30.500 Hmm.

00:07:30.760 I mean, because that does definitely strike me as a political analysis piece, which I would say is a piece, but a piece of something.

00:07:39.320 Yeah.

00:07:39.500 But is not.

00:07:40.760 That cannot be a cannot be a news story.

00:07:43.820 You want it?

00:07:44.940 How much are you going to put down on it?

00:07:46.280 I will.

00:07:47.300 I'm totally got one cent is about the maximum I would bet on this.

00:07:53.000 The report released by the president's House Republican allies on Monday was, in effect, a pre-bottle of a report on the Democratic impeachment investigation set to be released by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff.

00:08:07.640 The message of the document, less of a defense of Trump on its merits, but rather an endorsement of his counterfactual denials.

00:08:16.400 It was simple.

00:08:17.480 Nothing Trump did when it came to Ukraine was wrong, the report said.

00:08:20.860 His scheme run by his scheme run by personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to coerce Ukraine to investigate a political foe, Joe Biden, was just fine, according to the partisan document.

00:08:34.680 Contrary to what top officials testified, there was no quid pro quo, House Republicans claim.

00:08:40.040 And the whole Ukrainian drama amounts to a coup by his deep state enemies, despite an avalanche of evidence otherwise.

00:08:50.860 Hmm.

00:08:52.760 Wow.

00:08:53.620 It's really frustrating the way they're doing this right now.

00:08:56.240 They are.

00:08:56.840 They are.

00:08:57.680 Let me give you another one here.

00:09:01.800 This is from the New York Post.

00:09:03.520 House Republicans on Monday released a report ripping Democrats impeachment proceedings, arguing that the evidence collected in the probe so far does not support the accusations leveled against President Trump or the rise or rise to level of removal from office.

00:09:19.200 The evidence presented.

00:09:20.200 Now, this one reads like a news story.

00:09:23.680 The the evidence presented does not prove any of these Democratic allegations and none of the Democratic witnesses testified to have any evidence of bribery, extortion or any high crime or misdemeanor.

00:09:35.140 End quote.

00:09:36.420 The Republicans asserted this in the 123 page report, a copy of which was obtained by the Post, dueling versions of the case against the president following two weeks of the House committee, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:09:47.420 They are the the mainstream press is working overtime right now to do a couple of things.

00:09:57.080 Listen to this story from Salon, a Ukrainian prosecutor who aided Trump attorney Ruli Giuliani's search for damaging information on former Vice President Joe Biden was among hundreds of prosecutors fired in a sweeping anti-corruption purge.

00:10:17.080 One of Julia Giuliani's earliest contacts in Ukraine was given a dismissal notice last week.

00:10:22.880 OK, so prosecutor aided Giuliani's hunt for damaging details on Biden is fired in an anti-corruption purge.

00:10:33.040 What does that headline tell you?

00:10:36.480 What is it supposed to tell you?

00:10:39.100 Anti-corruption purge.

00:10:42.960 That these people were removed for justifiable good reasons because they're just we take it.

00:10:52.580 Action against the bad guys.

00:10:54.740 Is that accurate?

00:10:55.980 No.

00:10:57.460 He and more than 500 prosecutors from the last regime were fired because they failed to take some exam that they felt was biased against them.

00:11:12.420 And so they failed to take this exam on what happened in the last administration.

00:11:17.660 They didn't take it.

00:11:18.520 So 500 of them, more than 500 of them were fired.

00:11:21.520 Interesting.

00:11:21.980 Yeah.

00:11:24.380 This man has denied meeting with Giuliani, but his former associates say he prepared a seven page dossier, which was passed along to Giuliani.

00:11:33.860 The former prosecutor later appeared in a report by the Hill's John Solomon, to whom Giuliani fed dubious claims to fuel the debunked narrative that Biden had a prosecutor terminated while he was investigating a Ukrainian firm that employed his son.

00:11:50.680 How is that debunked?

00:11:52.680 How is that debunked?

00:11:53.800 How is that debunked?

00:11:55.700 We have the court documents that were filed by that prosecutor three weeks before he was fired by Joe Biden.

00:12:04.620 He went to court and filed a court document for an investigation to be able to have the powers to do the investigation on Burisma and Joe Biden's son.

00:12:19.320 Yeah.

00:12:19.940 So where has this been debunked?

00:12:22.220 Well, and what they fall back on usually here is there were multiple investigations going on against Burisma, one of which had ended before the Biden situation occurred.

00:12:33.580 So they say, well, the the the the investigation was over, as you point out, they had filed papers for a new investigation.

00:12:41.380 There were other investigations going on on Burisma at the same time.

00:12:43.980 We should also report that this stated thing that Joe Biden was doing in Ukraine, totally separate from Burisma, no big deal, had nothing to do with them.

00:12:55.620 All he was doing was investigating corruption in the oil and gas industry with his focused attention on Burisma's number one competitor.

00:13:05.180 Now, sir, it wasn't even about Burisma.

00:13:08.820 It was only about their number one competitor in the same industry.

00:13:13.060 That's all.

00:13:15.080 Obviously, there are more questions.

00:13:17.360 And to just say it's debunked is easy, right?

00:13:19.440 Because you know what?

00:13:20.900 Sometimes this does happen, right?

00:13:22.920 Sometimes Republicans do throw around theories that are B.S.

00:13:27.860 And sometimes they do.

00:13:29.700 So what they try to do with things like this is say, well, look there.

00:13:33.960 You guys know they're all conspiracy theorists.

00:13:35.480 We've been telling you that everything they've been doing is debunked.

00:13:37.420 And this is just another example.

00:13:38.340 Don't look into it.

00:13:38.920 We're telling you right now.

00:13:39.720 It's another example.

00:13:40.380 A little different than the do your own homework approach that we take with these investigations.

00:13:45.020 Check it.

00:13:46.060 Look at it.

00:13:46.780 Read the documents.

00:13:47.540 Please do.

00:13:48.280 Here they are.

00:13:49.080 We have the documents.

00:13:51.320 We have them.

00:13:52.680 So when you say they're debunked, you'll notice they're not quoting any document.

00:13:57.740 They're not quoting anyone and showing a document that disproves our documents.

00:14:02.660 Our documents, in this case, are from the court system in Ukraine.

00:14:09.180 I mean, so please debunk that.

00:14:12.560 I'll correct that.

00:14:14.600 Just show me what makes that report and those documents invalid.

00:14:22.180 Show that to me.

00:14:23.920 They can't.

00:14:25.480 They can't.

00:14:26.500 Nor will they.

00:14:27.320 Listen to this.

00:14:28.740 Giuliani told Blaze host Glenn Beck last month that he used Solomon to push the claims in the U.S.

00:14:35.280 Senior State Department official George Kent.

00:14:37.980 He also testified last month that Solomon's reporting, if not entirely, is made up in full cloth.

00:14:44.520 It was filled with non-truths and non-sequiturs.

00:14:47.180 So he's saying that Solomon, that Rudy Giuliani told me that he used Solomon to push these things.

00:14:58.540 No, I don't think that's what he said.

00:15:00.700 Correct me if I'm wrong, Stu.

00:15:02.400 I think he said that, yes, he gave this information to John Solomon.

00:15:06.700 Right.

00:15:07.040 They're just inserting the context that he pushed false claims.

00:15:11.120 But that's not, of course, what Giuliani or Solomon was intended to do.

00:15:14.140 That's like, you'll notice that up on my giant chalkboard, there is, oh, what is his name?

00:15:21.220 The, oh, the press guy, Michael Isikoff.

00:15:26.700 I've never said anything about Michael Isikoff except that Chalupa was working with Michael Isikoff on giving him a story, which he ran.

00:15:39.580 And that story was used for the FISA request.

00:15:43.640 OK, I'm not saying that Michael Isikoff was was part of this conspiracy.

00:15:49.680 I'm not saying that Michael Isikoff is completely discredited.

00:15:53.880 I'm not saying any of that.

00:15:55.100 I'm only stating the fact that I know that Chalupa was working the press and she was specifically in her own words, in her own documents and emails to the DNC, working on Michael Isikoff for a blockbuster story.

00:16:14.140 And that blockbuster story, well, that blockbuster story happened to lead right down to the the black ledger, which got Paul Manafort fired.

00:16:24.000 Is that Michael Isikoff's fault?

00:16:26.280 Was he part of it?

00:16:27.400 I've never made that charge.

00:16:29.100 No.

00:16:29.560 I mean, if you're a journalist, it was a real story.

00:16:31.520 It should have been reported.

00:16:32.480 Correct.

00:16:33.040 And, you know, we shouldn't dismiss the idea that people were convicted in the release of this black ledger that led to the resignation and eventual imprisonment of a guy running one of the two campaigns going running for president at the time.

00:16:48.420 You know, that Manafort thing is not a little detail.

00:16:52.160 I mean, imagine what a big 2016 was so freaking crazy and so many details happened and so many wild swings happened in that election.

00:17:00.880 But there are most elections in U.S. history.

00:17:05.000 The biggest story of the entire campaign would be the guy running the campaign gets fired because of corruption that's leaked out of a country overseas is still at some level is questioned, even by the mainstream media, whether it's whether it's fraudulent or not, was not entered into the the actual court case.

00:17:23.760 The FBI, the prosecution never used the black ledger because they felt that it was it had too many flaws in it.

00:17:32.080 They didn't want to.

00:17:32.560 It seemed like it was a good possibility that it wasn't real.

00:17:37.340 It does seem like a lot of the information in it was real.

00:17:40.480 However, but it was a manufactured collection of evidence presented in a specific way for a specific result.

00:17:47.640 Correct.

00:17:48.080 And which, by the way, got the result.

00:17:49.940 I mean, someone in Ukraine released a document that got the head of a campaign fired to the United States, but we're telling everyone tells us that it's debunked.

00:17:58.960 Right.

00:17:59.360 There were convictions in Ukraine over this.

00:18:01.120 There was a tape from Ukraine about this.

00:18:03.700 And that guy that was convicted, there were two of them.

00:18:07.480 One of them was the head of the anti-corruption bureau, which was set up by Obama, Clinton, the State Department and George Soros.

00:18:17.700 That's what that organization is.

00:18:20.440 And the head of that organization was convicted of interfering in a U.S. election.

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00:20:18.740 Boy, have you seen that the GOP is not letting Dershowitz testify?

00:20:25.780 Oh, you mean that hardcore conservative?

00:20:27.940 Yeah.

00:20:28.300 That conservative legal hack?

00:20:30.300 Yeah.

00:20:30.560 Alan Dershowitz?

00:20:31.500 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:32.140 A guy who is, first of all, voted for Hillary Clinton, is obviously known liberal and one of the preeminent legal scholars of our time.

00:20:40.480 Yes.

00:20:40.840 But yes, let him, he's a hack.

00:20:43.320 Yes, but he probably was molesting small children with Epstein.

00:20:49.800 Right.

00:20:50.680 Again, I've yet to see any evidence other than just an accusation that was seemingly intentionally leaked.

00:20:57.200 Yes.

00:20:58.040 In, from a court document.

00:21:00.480 And he, again, of course, you've heard him on the show, but possibly he's absolutely defended himself and says he's completely innocent.

00:21:09.300 I mean, who knows with this stuff?

00:21:11.020 Obviously, we weren't there until they leak a document about us.

00:21:14.780 We weren't on the island at any point.

00:21:17.720 But, you know, it's...

00:21:19.260 Or so you'd have us believe.

00:21:21.100 We have this situation here in this country.

00:21:22.900 And maybe Dershowitz would understand this as a legal scholar.

00:21:26.080 It's called innocence until you're proven guilty.

00:21:29.440 That kind of was the standard for a while.

00:21:31.560 It does not seem to be the standard anymore.

00:21:33.200 Well, it wasn't in Salem, Massachusetts.

00:21:35.200 Why should it be now?

00:21:36.200 That's true.

00:21:36.600 I guess the real old...

00:21:37.560 If we were really conserving the things from the past, we would go with the...

00:21:41.060 We would go right back to...

00:21:41.740 See if he floats.

00:21:43.740 That's right.

00:21:44.560 Come on.

00:21:45.120 That's all we have to do.

00:21:45.980 There's no way Dershowitz floats.

00:21:46.920 We tie a giant rock around him and we throw him into the river.

00:21:51.240 If he floats, he's a witch.

00:21:54.360 If he doesn't, he's not.

00:21:56.040 And then we know his innocence.

00:21:57.400 Right.

00:21:57.560 We know his innocence.

00:21:58.080 He's dead, but we know his innocence.

00:22:00.920 At least his name would be cleared.

00:22:03.160 You know, why he won't submit to that kind of inquiry is beyond me.

00:22:08.760 Why not?

00:22:09.440 You don't want your name cleared?

00:22:11.300 Anyway, this is the reason why they're not letting Dershowitz testify this week.

00:22:18.840 Because they think that the Democrats will just make it all about Jeffrey Epstein.

00:22:23.720 And you know what?

00:22:26.160 I say go for it.

00:22:27.680 Go for it.

00:22:28.460 He wants to talk about it.

00:22:29.680 Yeah.

00:22:29.920 He wants to defend that case.

00:22:30.900 Yeah, go for it.

00:22:31.560 Let him go after Jeffrey Epstein.

00:22:34.720 Why is it that only Prince Andrew is in trouble on this Epstein thing?

00:22:39.420 Why is that?

00:22:40.740 Why is that?

00:22:41.760 Seems like there's some others that could be questioned.

00:22:43.560 Maybe, maybe.

00:22:47.060 More on that and so much more coming up.

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00:24:18.680 Get your tickets now, Glenn Beck.com, Christmas.

00:24:20.880 I just looked up, we have on one of our screens, we have the things that we talked about just so we keep logs of everything we talked about.

00:24:50.160 And the last break is just, sorry, this is very inside baseball, but it just says, Dershowitz, will he float?

00:25:02.000 And he would call him right now and say, I would not float.

00:25:04.540 I would not float.

00:25:05.300 I would not float.

00:25:07.380 All right.

00:25:08.420 Welcome to the program.

00:25:10.160 Let me go to Ethan in Virginia before we get to Pat.

00:25:12.720 Hello, Ethan.

00:25:14.680 How's it going?

00:25:15.520 Good.

00:25:15.740 How are you?

00:25:17.340 I'm doing good.

00:25:17.980 Hey, I wanted to ask you, in our state of Virginia, the Democrats are like in full control and they're getting ready to change all kinds of gun laws for us.

00:25:31.660 So the counties, our surrounding counties are changing into Second Amendment sanctuary counties.

00:25:37.680 So my question is, how much protection to the gun owners will that Second Amendment sanctuary, how much protection will that give us?

00:25:48.800 Well, I happen to think that sanctuary cities for the Second Amendment are all cities.

00:25:55.480 Because the Second Amendment is the Constitution.

00:25:59.660 It is constitutionally protected right.

00:26:01.660 So when, you know, with sanctuary cities with illegals, that's like, yeah, we're not going to enforce the law because we disagree with it.

00:26:11.760 This is, we are going to enforce the law.

00:26:15.300 It will all come down to your sheriffs.

00:26:18.320 If you have a really good sheriff, the sheriff does not answer to the governor, does he?

00:26:27.940 I'm trying to remember, Pat.

00:26:29.540 In the Constitution, I think sheriffs are the only ones that don't have a hierarchy.

00:26:35.340 They answer to the people.

00:26:37.460 I'm not sure I know the sheriff hierarchy.

00:26:40.120 You really don't?

00:26:41.020 I'm not as up on the hierarchy of sheriffdom as I should be.

00:26:44.400 I'm pretty sure it's definitely made whether it's never been right that I know I've never been tested.

00:26:50.360 Right.

00:26:50.880 But the but the idea is, is that the sheriff is not an appointment from anybody and doesn't answer to anybody but the people.

00:26:58.840 And that's why the counties are doing it, because the county sheriff, if you have a good one, is saying that's my constitutional right.

00:27:06.400 I respond to the people, not to the governor or anybody else.

00:27:10.640 But you will have a fight between the sheriff and the governor.

00:27:16.820 That's why you need to be all Americans should pay very close attention to who they have as their as their sheriff and make sure you really know that person.

00:27:27.060 And that person understands the Constitution and will stand.

00:27:32.320 Thanks so much, Ethan.

00:27:33.280 Hope that helps answer your question.

00:27:35.660 You should also be very much aware of the presidential candidate most likely to do something about this gun situation.

00:27:43.680 And that's Michael Bloomberg.

00:27:45.020 Of course, he wants to he wants to take the guns off the streets, which is great.

00:27:49.800 And and I think which is great to take the guns off of the streets.

00:27:55.100 If they were just laying there in the streets.

00:27:57.320 Yeah.

00:27:57.640 Well, I was like, you know, can somebody pick these up?

00:28:00.440 My issue is it's a tire hazard.

00:28:02.260 I'm constantly right in tires because of all the on the streets.

00:28:04.980 Yeah.

00:28:05.620 Right.

00:28:06.120 And then they go off just by themselves.

00:28:07.980 Especially those bayonets.

00:28:09.360 Right.

00:28:09.660 Because they're always on the end of the guns.

00:28:11.220 And then just in case the same thing happens at home, he's going to come and get them out of your house to just to make everything really good.

00:28:17.380 That's good, obviously.

00:28:17.900 There's no reason to have something that was developed specifically to kill.

00:28:22.860 This is this is one of the I mean, remember, this is the guy who what over the weekend said, no, President Xi is not a dictator.

00:28:31.100 He answers to his constituency.

00:28:33.780 Yeah.

00:28:33.860 No, he changed the law.

00:28:36.360 So he doesn't answer to anybody.

00:28:38.960 Yeah.

00:28:39.120 Communists don't have constituents.

00:28:41.480 Really?

00:28:42.020 They don't.

00:28:42.700 They really don't.

00:28:43.240 His thing was, oh, you think the people around him, if he starts going bad, you don't think that they'll and he couldn't bring himself to kill him.

00:28:51.600 Right.

00:28:52.620 Oh, so you're saying a coup is the constituency.

00:28:56.940 I don't know if you've noticed a lot of dictators survive a long time before a coup really bites them.

00:29:01.640 Yes.

00:29:02.200 You know, a lot of ill family.

00:29:04.400 Yeah.

00:29:04.900 Yeah.

00:29:05.220 The ill family.

00:29:05.920 Or the Kim family.

00:29:08.140 Yeah.

00:29:08.240 It's actually.

00:29:08.800 Yeah.

00:29:08.940 You're right.

00:29:09.320 Yeah.

00:29:09.620 It's the Kim.

00:29:10.360 Reverse.

00:29:10.820 Yeah.

00:29:11.080 Reverse.

00:29:11.400 Uh, but he's got some other great, uh, policies.

00:29:15.400 Uh, he tried to explain one of them last year.

00:29:18.360 And, uh, I think the, the poor are really going to respond to this when he's talking about taxing the poor and how great that will be.

00:29:25.340 Love it.

00:29:25.840 Here's Michael say, well, taxes are regressive, but in this case, yes, they are.

00:29:31.540 That's the good thing about them because the problem is in people that don't have a lot of money.

00:29:36.940 Right.

00:29:37.380 And so higher taxes should have a bigger impact on their behavior and how they deal with themselves.

00:29:44.320 So I listen to people saying, oh, we don't want to tax the poor.

00:29:48.480 Well, we want the poor to live longer so that they can get an education and enjoy life.

00:29:54.240 Oh.

00:29:54.580 And that's why you do want to do exactly what a lot of people say you don't want to do.

00:30:00.820 Ah, okay.

00:30:01.740 The question is, do you want to pander to those people or do you want to get them to live longer?

00:30:07.760 And there's just no question.

00:30:09.320 If you raise taxes on full sugary drinks, for example, they will drink less.

00:30:14.920 And there's just no question that full sugar drinks are one of the major contributors to obesity.

00:30:19.780 And obesity is one of the major contributors to heart disease and cancer and a variety of other things.

00:30:24.840 Yeah, yeah, shut up.

00:30:25.520 May I just point out, some people that have money also have big bellies.

00:30:34.100 Really?

00:30:34.780 Can you name any?

00:30:36.320 Do you have any specific examples of that?

00:30:37.800 No, I can't think of anyone.

00:30:39.240 Someone who was maybe in the media spotlight for a while, maybe earned a lot of money over the years.

00:30:44.360 Nope, can't think of a single one.

00:30:45.840 Seems to grow and grow.

00:30:46.740 But it's not like this obesity.

00:30:48.720 Wait a minute.

00:30:49.760 What?

00:30:50.080 That's oddly specific.

00:30:51.180 It's not like it's just the poor that are drinking soda.

00:30:58.760 Right.

00:30:59.340 I think his point is, though, that it only affects the poor.

00:31:03.360 Because if you, Glenn Beck is going to buy whatever soda he wants, no matter how much the taxation is.

00:31:07.860 But for someone who has a lower level of income, they may avoid it because of the taxation.

00:31:11.440 I think that's such a great argument.

00:31:13.140 The less money they have, the less damage they can do.

00:31:17.720 Yes.

00:31:18.080 To themselves.

00:31:18.760 They won't be able to buy food with the money.

00:31:21.340 Right.

00:31:21.720 So they won't hurt themselves with the food they eat or intake or drink.

00:31:25.980 This is, Pat, progressive theory 101, right?

00:31:28.720 Yes.

00:31:28.920 Bloomberg knows better than them.

00:31:30.340 They don't know what to buy for themselves.

00:31:31.720 He has to make them buy the thing he wants them to buy.

00:31:34.200 He and Elizabeth Warren are the same people.

00:31:36.380 Yeah.

00:31:36.480 They're interchangeable.

00:31:37.760 They're the same people.

00:31:38.720 This is a guy who, what, 10 years ago was supposedly a Republican 15 years ago, and then he was an independent, and now he's just a communist.

00:31:47.360 I mean, it's...

00:31:48.680 No, he's not.

00:31:49.540 I don't think he is a communist.

00:31:50.200 Dangerous people.

00:31:51.020 I think he was replaced by a communist, but I don't think he is a communist.

00:31:54.480 He is clearly a capitalist, but he is a progressive capitalist.

00:31:59.520 Yes.

00:31:59.820 He is the icon of the progressive wing of the Republican Party.

00:32:08.620 He's the ultimate.

00:32:10.420 Now that John McCain is gone, he's the ultimate.

00:32:14.180 You know, he believes in all of the big government stuff.

00:32:18.460 He just happens to fancy himself a Republican until it becomes unpopular.

00:32:24.200 Is there anybody who is against Trump getting rid of the credentials for Bloomberg reporters?

00:32:31.620 Like, because I, we've been critical of, sometimes I think Trump gets too hypersensitive of what the media writes about him, and he's banning his reporters.

00:32:38.800 But this one is clearly right.

00:32:41.600 They have come out and made a statement that they will not investigate any Democrats, and they will only investigate Trump.

00:32:47.720 Like, how on earth can a news organization, Bloomberg, get away with that and maintain any level of credibility?

00:32:55.860 I understand that he's the guy that owns the company, and there's weird things there.

00:33:00.600 And it makes sense, even, to say you're not going to investigate Bloomberg or the Democrats.

00:33:04.920 But you have to apply that also to Trump.

00:33:07.000 What would they say if Murdoch were American and would run for president of the United States?

00:33:11.180 Right.

00:33:11.600 What would they say?

00:33:12.280 They would say, you cannot have Fox.

00:33:15.520 It would be ridiculous.

00:33:16.680 It would be ridiculous to think that they would be fine with that.

00:33:20.120 They'd be out of their minds over that.

00:33:21.680 They'd be out of their minds.

00:33:23.020 This isn't Fox and Murdoch.

00:33:27.240 This is Bloomberg and Bloomberg News.

00:33:30.520 Yeah.

00:33:31.080 I mean, and they're already making that case.

00:33:34.320 I know, when I was called up into the office of Rupert Murdoch, the first talent, I am told by Roger Ailes,

00:33:43.260 to ever been called up to Rupert Murdoch's office before.

00:33:47.820 And he was nervous, and I was like, cool, I'm going to meet the guy.

00:33:52.960 Hi, what's happening down under?

00:33:55.320 And I sat there with him, and the first question he asked me was, are you running for president?

00:34:00.320 And I knew what that was about.

00:34:02.100 I forgot about this.

00:34:02.780 Yeah.

00:34:03.360 Are you running for president?

00:34:04.480 It was right after 828, and I said, no.

00:34:07.000 What are you going to do with all this power?

00:34:08.900 What power?

00:34:10.020 You just called the largest group of people together as a private citizen.

00:34:14.100 Roger and I spoke about it this morning.

00:34:15.900 We cannot think of anybody who was a private citizen who has called that many people

00:34:20.540 and had that many people come without an entity behind him.

00:34:24.680 So who do you represent?

00:34:26.280 And I'm like, I don't want any of that.

00:34:27.840 I just thought we should all get together on the mall.

00:34:31.240 And they really didn't understand it.

00:34:32.920 But the first question was important.

00:34:35.160 Are you running for president?

00:34:36.960 Because you can't.

00:34:38.300 Mike Huckabee, if he was running for president, he loses his show.

00:34:41.500 You can't do that.

00:34:43.780 How is it that anybody like Mike Huckabee is different than Michael Bloomberg?

00:34:50.160 How can the guy who owns it, and they say, oh, by the way, we're only going to investigate this.

00:34:57.300 And how is it those journalists don't rebel?

00:35:01.160 Go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:35:03.000 You're telling me I can't.

00:35:04.040 Like, there's a big story about Elizabeth Warren, and we can't report on it.

00:35:09.000 Basically, you're saying, oh, all we can do is aggregate other people's reporting.

00:35:12.300 We can't do any investigations.

00:35:14.480 Like, if you're a journalist, you got into journalism to do investigations.

00:35:19.960 And now you're like, well, these people are off limits.

00:35:22.220 Remember the whole do not prosecute list we talked about in Ukraine that was so controversial?

00:35:27.640 Like, that's essentially what they've done.

00:35:29.160 They've created a do not investigate list.

00:35:31.700 How can it have any credibility?

00:35:33.920 And a lot of this stuff just comes from the news organizations.

00:35:36.020 Fox News fires those people not because, you know, fires them, makes them leave their shows because they're running for president.

00:35:43.220 Not because necessarily they have to on cable, because they have standards.

00:35:50.400 They're saying to themselves, we can't avoid even the appearance.

00:35:54.720 What are they going to say when Trump leaves office in 2028?

00:36:00.780 Just to screw with people.

00:36:02.560 I mean, Bloomberg went for three terms.

00:36:04.100 Why not?

00:36:04.600 There you go.

00:36:05.120 And he changed it.

00:36:06.100 He changed the Constitution of New York City to do it.

00:36:08.300 That's right.

00:36:08.920 So when Donald Trump leaves in 2024 and he starts the Trump television news network.

00:36:15.160 Which is almost certainly going to happen.

00:36:16.540 It's going to happen.

00:36:17.440 It's going to happen.

00:36:19.220 What are they going to say?

00:36:21.300 What are they going to say?

00:36:22.520 Are they going to allow Trump's reporters into the White House?

00:36:29.080 Of course not.

00:36:29.900 No.

00:36:30.160 Of course not.

00:36:31.080 They're going to ban all of them.

00:36:31.500 No, they're not.

00:36:31.880 Especially if Trump was running for president.

00:36:35.560 You've got Bloomberg running for president and Trump says, I'm not letting him in.

00:36:40.900 I'm not letting his people in here.

00:36:42.840 No.

00:36:43.400 I think President West would allow them in.

00:36:46.180 You know, President Kanye West.

00:36:48.620 He'd probably allow them.

00:36:50.040 Yeah.

00:36:50.320 Yeah.

00:36:50.820 Well, that's 2024.

00:36:52.100 You know, that's happening in 2024.

00:36:54.020 So it'll be a whole new world when we have President West in office.

00:37:00.720 Guys, I actually thought Adam West.

00:37:02.520 That's when he said West.

00:37:04.000 How old am I?

00:37:05.320 I know.

00:37:05.560 I was singing Wild Wild West.

00:37:07.020 I was like, what?

00:37:07.760 What is that?

00:37:08.880 Was it Jim Gordon?

00:37:10.080 Or what was that guy's name?

00:37:11.580 I don't even think we should have an election.

00:37:12.640 Just give the presidency to Kanye West.

00:37:14.400 It's obviously going to some Kardashian.

00:37:16.660 So let's just pick one.

00:37:17.500 At least Kanye seems kind of Republican.

00:37:20.060 I mean, Kardashian has to be the next president.

00:37:23.580 And look, he's black.

00:37:25.000 He has a relative that is transgender.

00:37:28.840 Yeah.

00:37:29.640 I mean, he's got it all.

00:37:30.980 He has everything.

00:37:32.220 He's going to do very well in the Intersectionality Olympics.

00:37:35.860 He'll be great.

00:37:36.840 He'll be great.

00:37:37.800 All right.

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00:37:45.280 Launch the new ad campaign?

00:37:47.160 How's revenue pacing against last year?

00:37:49.900 Most companies don't have a clear picture of their financing.

00:37:52.940 And how do you make key decisions?

00:37:56.240 I was in this position for a long time.

00:37:59.700 Wait, we have all of these streams of going out and going in.

00:38:03.920 Can I get them on one sheet?

00:38:05.320 Can I get them on a dashboard, please?

00:38:07.740 Because you are shooting blind.

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00:39:11.620 Very excited to have Senator John Kennedy on with us tomorrow.

00:39:39.960 Actually, today, tomorrow, we have John F. Kennedy.

00:39:44.360 Oh, wow.

00:39:44.720 Which probably will be a bigger interview, I'm guessing.

00:39:47.360 I think he's a Republican now.

00:39:49.620 Oh, God, yes.

00:39:50.620 He's definitely a Republican now.

00:39:52.400 But we have John Kennedy on with us.

00:39:54.460 John is going through some problems right now with the press because he has been articulating,

00:40:01.640 and I think with all deference to the senator because he's one of the only people trying to do it,

00:40:07.440 he's been put into an almost impossible situation of trying to explain Hydra,

00:40:16.340 trying to explain what was really going on,

00:40:18.820 and the press is just trying to make this into a conspiracy theory.

00:40:23.140 Two things can be true.

00:40:25.920 Russia meddled in our election, but so did Ukraine.

00:40:31.040 And he is really the only one that I have seen articulating this,

00:40:35.860 and I'm very disappointed in his Senate colleagues,

00:40:38.940 but we wanted to get him on and, A, give him some praise for standing up and speaking about the truth,

00:40:47.680 and also to see what he thinks the chances are of the Republicans actually going after this Hydra.

00:40:55.020 Because this is what this is really all about,

00:40:58.100 and I'm so afraid this is just going to be swept under the rug.

00:41:01.380 And that's a problem for America.

00:41:04.800 It's a real problem because the State Department will take this as,

00:41:10.060 see, we can do anything we want.

00:41:12.180 As long as we institutionalize it, we control the president.

00:41:16.820 And that is really, really bad.

00:41:20.420 And it has nothing to do with the impeachment per se.

00:41:25.040 It has everything to do with the system they set up

00:41:28.120 and how the Democrats used that system to hurt him in the election.

00:41:32.960 That is all well documented.

00:41:34.960 It's not a conspiracy theory.

00:41:37.020 It's a fact of a conspiracy.

00:41:39.240 I should say facts because we've got stacks and stacks of documents to prove it.

00:41:46.120 We talked to Senator John Kennedy about what the future is on impeachment when we come back.

00:41:56.080 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

00:42:09.240 We have Senator John Kennedy on with us.

00:42:13.700 He is a Republican from Louisiana.

00:42:15.960 He is getting a lot of fire from the media who they are trying to make.

00:42:22.820 They're trying to do two things.

00:42:24.360 They're trying to say that anything that the Democrats did in Ukraine is a conspiracy theory.

00:42:30.280 It's not.

00:42:30.860 We have massive files of documentation, much of it coming from FOIA requests in their own handwriting, with their own signatures, in their own words.

00:42:43.320 We have videotape of them doing these things and even confessing to trying to throw our election.

00:42:49.840 And the media is trying to make that a conspiracy theory.

00:42:53.540 And they're trying to make it also that if you believe that, then you somehow or another don't believe that Russia was trying to do what it was trying to do.

00:43:02.960 I told you in 2014 what Russia was going to do because they spelled it out.

00:43:08.500 They talked about disinformation campaigns.

00:43:11.120 They talked about infiltrating our Internet and trying to throw our election.

00:43:16.740 It's clear.

00:43:17.380 Can't both of those things be true?

00:43:21.020 We asked Senator John Kennedy that and also, what's going to happen now?

00:43:27.660 Is this, is any of this corruption going to be exposed?

00:43:31.820 Because he seems to be one of the only ones in the Senate that is actually fairly on it.

00:43:37.940 And so we want to give him a little safe space to talk openly with us next.

00:43:47.380 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:44:04.020 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:44:05.800 So what happens next with the impeachment process?

00:44:11.140 Are the Republicans going to stand up and fight against this corruption?

00:44:16.860 Is it just about making this all go away?

00:44:19.500 Or is it about rooting out corruption?

00:44:22.540 Because I think there is, I don't think, I know there is massive corruption.

00:44:30.060 And the State Department, the former president, Hillary Clinton, George Soros, they're all involved in this.

00:44:38.300 And it's not a conspiracy theory.

00:44:39.960 There's a difference.

00:44:40.780 Conspiracy theory is, you know, what this kind of looks like is, but once you have the documents, once you have the videotapes, once you have everything to back it up, it's no longer a theory.

00:44:54.320 It's just a conspiracy.

00:44:56.120 It's a fact.

00:44:57.160 Are we going to go that direction?

00:45:00.800 Are we willing to actually root out corruption?

00:45:05.020 What will the Republicans do?

00:45:07.580 Senator from Louisiana, John Kennedy, who is under fire now for conspiracy theories, joins us in one minute.

00:45:18.320 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:46:24.260 We have, from the great state of Louisiana, not as great as Texas, but still pretty great,

00:46:29.520 we have Senator John Kennedy joining us now.

00:46:32.600 Hello, Senator.

00:46:33.140 How are you, sir?

00:46:35.120 Glenn, I am well.

00:46:36.800 And let me tell you, Texas, you mentioned Texas.

00:46:39.240 Texas is right next door to Louisiana.

00:46:41.460 Yeah.

00:46:41.640 We love Texas.

00:46:43.160 Texas is five and a half times bigger than we are, but Louisiana is ten and a half times

00:46:47.460 more interesting.

00:46:49.960 Well, let's not start anything here.

00:46:51.520 Let's just, because we want to part friends.

00:46:55.180 Senator, you are being lambasted in the press now as a conspiracy theorist.

00:47:02.780 And let me start with this question.

00:47:05.780 Can these two statements be true?

00:47:08.400 Russia tried to cause chaos by trying to hack into our election systems, spread disinformation

00:47:15.020 online by taking extreme positions on both sides, and hacked the DNC computer?

00:47:21.700 That's statement number one.

00:47:23.180 Can it also be true that the Ukrainians were convinced that Hillary Clinton would be better

00:47:30.100 for their country?

00:47:31.040 They were involved in gathering evidence against Donald Trump and his surrogates to assist a

00:47:36.860 Hillary Clinton win in collusion with the DNC, members of the State Department, our embassies,

00:47:43.940 and the Anti-Corruption Bureau in Ukraine.

00:47:47.940 Are those two statements true?

00:47:51.040 Yes.

00:47:52.420 Okay.

00:47:52.740 And you stated the propositions very eloquently.

00:47:57.280 I was asked, Glenn, on a show, several in fact, was it Russia or Ukraine who tried to influence

00:48:05.380 the U.S. election?

00:48:06.500 And I said both.

00:48:07.540 And they said, what's your basis for saying Ukraine?

00:48:09.740 I referred them to articles, op-ed pieces, and long investigatory articles in Politico, in

00:48:20.840 the Financial Times, in The Hill, in the Washington Examiner, on CBS News, in The Economist, Bloomberg

00:48:30.800 News, and New York Times.

00:48:32.760 For example, the headline in Politico, January 2017, quote, Ukraine efforts to sabotage Trump

00:48:43.900 backfire.

00:48:45.800 The Financial Times, August of 2016.

00:48:50.420 The headline was, quote, Ukraine's leaders campaign against Trump, close quote.

00:48:59.540 Third, this is an op-ed piece written in The Hill by the Ukrainian ambassador to the United

00:49:08.160 States.

00:49:09.560 This is the headline to his op-ed piece, the Ukrainian ambassador, not The Hill.

00:49:15.480 Quote, Trump's comments send wrong message to the world.

00:49:21.400 And I could go on.

00:49:23.000 Now, did Ukraine try to influence our election in as sophisticated a manner as Russia?

00:49:32.860 No.

00:49:33.260 Russia is the master.

00:49:35.880 Russia is a third world country, but it has great spies, great cyber skills, and nuclear

00:49:43.340 weapons.

00:49:44.740 But the two are not mutually exclusive.

00:49:47.680 And, I mean, just from the reporting, I don't believe these are all reputable members of

00:49:55.120 the media.

00:49:56.740 Their lawyers aren't going to let them print lies.

00:50:01.280 And I don't think it's fake news.

00:50:04.040 So, Senator, may I direct you to glennbeck.com, where we have laid this all out, and I'm not

00:50:10.900 using other people's reporting, I have the direct evidence in their own words from State

00:50:17.580 Department documents, from DNC documents.

00:50:20.740 We have payments.

00:50:22.540 We have videotape of them admitting to this.

00:50:25.960 We have the court documents out of Ukraine.

00:50:28.960 We have the official documents.

00:50:31.280 And it is so outrageous that the press is saying that these are conspiracy theories, etc., etc.

00:50:41.380 The, you know, reporters can spin, reporters can do whatever they want.

00:50:45.900 Documents do not lie.

00:50:48.160 And the documents outline all of it.

00:50:51.520 And it's all in their own words.

00:50:53.820 When you look at Cheramella, who is possibly the whistleblower, his fingers are all over

00:51:02.600 all of that.

00:51:04.440 This is why Donald Trump blew a hole in a wall, and he was a hand grenade.

00:51:10.000 And he and Rudy Giuliani went off, and they blew a hole in the wall that exposed all of

00:51:16.880 this stuff that was going behind the scenes in Ukraine.

00:51:20.180 And our former administration, Clinton, and the State Department, and members of our intelligence

00:51:27.000 community were all involved.

00:51:28.980 And we have the documents.

00:51:30.740 The question is, will the Senate actually take this on?

00:51:36.120 Or are we just going to, you know, defend against Trump and not expose the exact corruption

00:51:45.160 that I think is poison to the republic?

00:51:50.180 Fair question, Glenn.

00:51:52.440 The answer is, I don't know.

00:51:55.400 I'm labor.

00:51:57.620 I'm not management in the Senate.

00:51:59.540 I'm not a committee chairman.

00:52:02.620 I will tell you that, as you alluded to, I've gotten a lot of pushback from my Democratic

00:52:11.080 friends about my statement that both Russia and Ukraine tried to influence the election.

00:52:17.680 I think they're worried somehow that admitting that Ukraine tried to influence their election

00:52:24.840 would somehow hurt their impeachment proceedings against the president.

00:52:31.480 I don't understand that.

00:52:33.400 I mean, I think most fair-minded people recognize that the Ukrainian government in the past, not

00:52:39.760 the people, but the government, under President Poroshenko and President Yanukovych, the governments

00:52:49.940 are and were organically and historically corrupt.

00:52:54.540 And I think that's been well documented.

00:53:00.760 It has been.

00:53:02.220 And we exploited, when I say we, the Democratic Party and the former administration exploited

00:53:08.440 that corruption.

00:53:10.280 And it is vital that that is exposed.

00:53:15.880 If it is not, the State Department is going to know from here on until the end of time, they

00:53:23.100 run the show and they can do whatever they want.

00:53:26.100 It also will institutionalize the kinds of things that the Democratic Party was doing in

00:53:33.080 Ukraine to try to thwart our election.

00:53:35.900 Look, if Donald Trump would have been found as coordinating or in collusion with the Russians,

00:53:42.660 I would have been for impeachment on him.

00:53:45.220 But he wasn't.

00:53:46.500 They didn't find that evidence.

00:53:48.280 But that evidence is available in documents, in court documents.

00:53:54.080 Two people were tried and convicted in Ukrainian court.

00:54:00.780 Two people for interfering in our election to try to help Hillary Clinton win.

00:54:06.980 If we don't get a handle on this, our elections and the whole system is in question.

00:54:15.260 I don't care who goes to jail.

00:54:17.720 I want a fair election system.

00:54:21.220 Well, you are correct.

00:54:22.820 There was a federal district court in Kiev in December of 2018, which ruled that senior

00:54:36.180 Ukrainian officials did meddle, did try to influence the presidential election in the

00:54:42.500 United States.

00:54:43.460 And here's the headline from the article in the Bloomberg News reporting it.

00:54:48.420 Quote, Ukrainian officials meddled in 2016 election by leaking secret Manafort-Ledger court

00:55:00.020 says, end quote.

00:55:02.360 Yes.

00:55:03.180 Now, I didn't make this up.

00:55:06.400 And in fact, Bloomberg News is only reporting what a Ukrainian court did.

00:55:11.100 Now, my Democratic friends say, Dr. Hill, who testified in President Trump's impeachment

00:55:18.780 proceedings in the House, says this is all Russian propaganda.

00:55:23.680 And my response to that is, well, first, I don't think Politico and the Financial Times

00:55:31.620 and the Hill magazine and the Washington Examiner and Bloomberg News are agents for Vladimir Putin,

00:55:39.460 who's a thug.

00:55:40.220 I don't believe that.

00:55:42.000 And secondly, Dr. Hill is certainly entitled to her opinion.

00:55:47.220 I'm just saying I don't believe these articles by reputable members of the media, by reputable

00:55:54.980 reporters, I don't think they're fake news.

00:55:57.580 And, you know, their lawyers aren't going to let them print lies.

00:56:02.180 I know that much.

00:56:03.560 Senator, I know you have to run.

00:56:06.100 We have to let you go.

00:56:06.860 But I wish you all the best.

00:56:09.920 And I pray literally every night for spines to be found in Congress and in the Senate,

00:56:16.840 because what you are talking about is is institutionalized and metastasized.

00:56:25.000 And it must be cut out.

00:56:26.640 It is a cancer to our system.

00:56:28.620 And I'm I'm hoping that this is when it gets to the Senate, we actually have a trial about the truth.

00:56:38.060 And we call these people to to answer for the lies that we have seen now in this impeachment hearing.

00:56:46.720 Glenn, a very wise person told me yesterday in a phone call calling.

00:56:51.780 He called to say, keep telling the truth.

00:56:54.320 He said, leaders or he said, people don't follow leaders.

00:57:00.660 They follow courage.

00:57:03.060 And that meant a lot to me.

00:57:05.200 And I think it's true.

00:57:07.200 Senator, keep speaking the truth.

00:57:09.400 Thank you so much.

00:57:10.380 God bless.

00:57:11.120 Thank you, Glenn.

00:57:11.780 Thanks for having me.

00:57:12.360 You bet.

00:57:12.660 Bye bye.

00:57:13.580 All right.

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00:58:31.040 Station ID.

00:58:31.500 I don't, I'm so frustrated because, and I'm not frustrated, I think,

00:58:52.120 with the senators or the congressmen.

00:58:53.740 I'm frustrated with their staff.

00:58:56.360 Where, where is the staff around these people?

00:59:00.820 Well, I mean, I will say he, you know, look.

00:59:05.000 No, he was good.

00:59:05.740 He knew the story.

00:59:06.820 He knew about the arrest.

00:59:07.880 He knew the details.

00:59:08.720 He knew the arguments against it.

00:59:10.020 I mean, he was well-versed in a lot of this.

00:59:12.420 But where's the staff of, you know, the other senators?

00:59:16.560 Where are they?

00:59:17.280 Why, why, why, why is the Senate so quiet on this?

00:59:22.160 I mean, quite honestly, when you know all the details, it doesn't,

00:59:26.080 impeachment doesn't even matter anymore.

00:59:28.600 What you need to do is open up a hearing on, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:59:33.420 What was this impeachment thing?

00:59:36.820 Who are all these people?

00:59:38.920 Who was, what was, what was pulling what string here?

00:59:42.160 What was leading anything?

00:59:43.900 Because I'm, I'm not convinced.

00:59:46.280 Now, this is my, this is my opinion, but I'm not convinced this has anything to do

00:59:52.060 with Donald Trump per se at the highest level.

00:59:55.320 This is just the, the, the red meat that makes it able to be chewed on, but they are trying

01:00:04.400 to send a message.

01:00:05.860 We control policy.

01:00:08.200 State department, the intelligence community, we control policy, not the president.

01:00:14.100 And this is extraordinarily dangerous, especially when you have people making millions and millions

01:00:20.600 of dollars off of it who are in high positions.

01:00:23.340 You have massive corruption here.

01:00:27.500 And I don't know why the Senate isn't outraged.

01:00:31.380 Well, I mean, they have their chance to be outraged.

01:00:33.700 Maybe they're just waiting for the process to play out, right?

01:00:35.880 They're going to have a trial.

01:00:37.640 If the, if the impeachment goes forward as kind of everybody expects, either by the end

01:00:43.140 of the year or early next year, and then the Senate will have a chance to come out

01:00:47.680 and do this.

01:00:48.440 You know, there's a report today that, that Trump read the, uh, Republican memo on this

01:00:55.680 and is now like, look, just dismiss the whole thing.

01:00:57.920 I don't believe that.

01:00:58.900 I don't think he's going to do that.

01:01:00.200 I think that the trial is good for him.

01:01:02.520 Let's get this stuff out there.

01:01:03.860 Trial is great for him if everybody wants it exposed.

01:01:08.060 Right.

01:01:08.460 But I think this is the kind of, this is, I mean, this is every spy movie.

01:01:13.900 This, this corruption is so deep and so high up that this is when everything just disappears.

01:01:20.880 The good guy thinks he's going to win.

01:01:24.100 And all of a sudden it just goes away and you only get the lower level people.

01:01:28.860 And those other people just kind of shapeshift and move away.

01:01:33.340 That's, that's where we could be.

01:01:35.280 If this trial in the Senate does not expose all of this stuff, this is very dangerous.

01:01:42.400 It has to.

01:01:42.960 And honestly, it's hard to imagine the Republicans not at least going down this road a little

01:01:49.160 bit.

01:01:49.860 I mean, this is, this is the defense, right?

01:01:52.400 This is, you have to convince the American people that this call and the actions taken

01:02:01.040 around the call with Ukraine were taken for a good reason.

01:02:05.540 And you heard Senator Kennedy lay out a good chunk of that good reason.

01:02:10.840 You've obviously gone into much more depth on, on the TV show, multiple specials about

01:02:14.960 it.

01:02:15.240 But if you don't say that it was for a good reason, you have no defense.

01:02:19.340 So you have to give that reason.

01:02:20.760 The Hunter Biden thing isn't just a political attack.

01:02:25.640 It's about showing that there was legitimate reason for the president of the United States

01:02:30.760 to withhold this money because he believed corruption was real.

01:02:34.920 That is really the standard we're talking about here.

01:02:37.680 And if they don't present that case, then there's no way to defend it.

01:02:41.320 I mean, because if you just take it off on the surface, I mean, the guy's last name is

01:02:46.180 the guy who is the same last name as the person who's leading the field on the opposition.

01:02:50.760 That's how the American people are going to hear this unless they hear the real reasons

01:02:55.000 this was important.

01:02:56.800 So if the Senate doesn't want, uh, if the Senate wants to be a minority party without the White

01:03:04.520 House, then for Republicans, then they will just let this thing slide and not do anything.

01:03:11.300 I mean, just from their own political survival, if this guy gets impeached and thrown out

01:03:16.140 of office, they've got no chance.

01:03:17.540 They're going to have 40 senators and they're going to have no White House and no House.

01:03:22.060 And they're going to get anything done for years and years and years and years.

01:03:24.800 So you better step up and make a defense of this and show that there was.

01:03:30.480 Go on the offense.

01:03:32.580 Yeah.

01:03:33.060 Go on the offense.

01:03:34.240 Stu, last night on the TV show, we showed you the connections again that keep growing

01:03:39.020 every single day.

01:03:40.580 We keep finding more and more connections and more and more documents that prove our case.

01:03:47.040 Go on the offense.

01:03:49.840 This whole Russia investigation, the way they went after Donald Trump was a setup that doesn't

01:03:57.800 mean that Russia wasn't doing stuff, but the, but the, all of the accusations around that

01:04:04.440 with him were fueled from the Ukrainian disaster by the, the DNC.

01:04:11.760 And they were all connected to the DNC with Chalupa and Hillary Clinton and the state department.

01:04:18.800 And then others were making money by being as corrupt as Ukraine.

01:04:25.000 In fact, we were exploiting their corrupt system.

01:04:28.080 I feel really bad for Ukraine.

01:04:30.300 I really do.

01:04:31.080 I mean, they never seem to have a chance to have somebody not put their, their, their boot

01:04:37.160 on the Ukrainian neck.

01:04:38.560 We just came in and we did the same thing that the, the, the, the Russians were doing.

01:04:44.100 You're going to do it our way.

01:04:45.320 You're going to answer to us and we're going to bilk you of billions of dollars while we

01:04:50.020 do it.

01:04:51.600 This is, this must be covered, must be covered.

01:04:56.800 And, uh, as every day goes by, I'm more and more convinced the Republicans are absolutely

01:05:04.140 spineless and won't do it.

01:05:08.560 All right.

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01:08:06.860 Yeah.

01:08:07.300 It is.

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01:08:08.360 Uh, we've been working on this for a very long time and, uh, hopefully Thursday we will

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01:08:14.160 If not within a few days.

01:08:15.880 Uh, but we just want to make sure that everything is buttoned up.

01:08:19.240 Uh, and, uh, uh, and we should have that done.

01:08:22.860 A few, a few Ukrainians still left to bribe.

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01:09:07.240 Uh, and it's going to be, I've, uh, seen portions of, uh, what you're going to be doing

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01:09:14.120 And I, I await the fallout from your family disintegrating.

01:09:18.520 I think it's going to be really fun to watch.

01:09:20.100 Thank you very much.

01:09:20.800 You know, I don't have any personal interest in it.

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01:09:23.300 Just entertainment for me.

01:09:24.440 You know, what's so interesting, uh, to me is you can tell new staff members all the

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01:09:31.500 Okay.

01:09:32.120 Uh, you can tell them when they come on, you can tell them all the time, all this work

01:09:36.180 you're doing.

01:09:38.160 Probably not going to use.

01:09:39.100 Oh yeah.

01:09:40.380 That's, that's the, that's the way we do things around here.

01:09:42.320 Yeah.

01:09:42.560 What you do is you invest a lot of your time, like away from your family, you know, your

01:09:46.240 kids grow up.

01:09:46.800 You don't really know them.

01:09:47.620 Yeah.

01:09:47.920 You know, you don't really have a good connection with them.

01:09:50.000 Uh, they don't, they don't know who you are.

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01:09:53.560 Right.

01:09:54.120 Um, and all of that was to, to, to usually work towards a goal of a big event of some

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01:10:03.020 And then a few moments before the event starts, you throw it all out and do whatever you want.

01:10:07.280 Yeah.

01:10:07.540 Well, I told everybody that was working on this.

01:10:10.120 In fact, I said this before I went on vacation for the holiday.

01:10:14.880 Yeah.

01:10:15.300 You know, I wouldn't put a lot of thought into, you know, finishing up all of this.

01:10:19.080 Cause, um, I'm just feeling that I'm just going to go a different way.

01:10:23.560 And they were like, wait, what?

01:10:25.900 I mean, we have all this stuff produced and I'm like, yeah, you're just agonizing.

01:10:31.020 I know.

01:10:31.380 So, uh, I'm not sure exactly what I'm going to be doing on stage, but I know this, it

01:10:38.420 will be spontaneous and fun.

01:10:41.380 Uh, and it will be about, uh, it'll be about Christmas.

01:10:44.400 Uh, so you don't want to miss it.

01:10:46.680 You don't want to miss it.

01:10:47.780 Yep.

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01:10:49.400 Glenbeck.com slash Christmas, I believe is the address.

01:10:52.340 Yes.

01:10:53.560 Ah, so let me, um, let me go over Prince Andrew here for a second, which I don't like

01:11:02.940 doing.

01:11:03.900 It's like talking about Joe Biden's hairy legs.

01:11:07.500 I don't want to go over Prince Andrew.

01:11:09.840 Uh, but why is Prince Andrew the only one that is going to be stuck out on this?

01:11:14.280 Why is, why is it the Royal family is beheading this guy?

01:11:18.580 And I think rightly so.

01:11:19.620 If, if all of this is true, I think rightfully so.

01:11:23.080 Uh, but he is, I mean, he is, he's being punished hard for this.

01:11:30.320 And I think more punishment is coming his way, but was he the only guy?

01:11:36.400 Well, I mean, I think the answer to that is no clear.

01:11:40.740 And it's no right now, whether he, it certainly seems like Prince Andrew, uh, was down to some

01:11:48.620 things he shouldn't have been doing.

01:11:50.400 Um, it seems it would be incredibly horrible luck that he just happened to wrap his arm

01:11:57.900 around a 17 year old who was being, uh, routinely and systematically abused by the Epsteins, uh,

01:12:05.160 and, you know, uh, and associates.

01:12:07.900 And he just, he just got unlucky, just wrapped his arm around that happened to be 17 year

01:12:12.220 old's midriff.

01:12:13.000 And it just happens.

01:12:14.100 Sometimes you, you got your fingers on, on a midriff of a 17 year old and oh man, it just

01:12:19.220 occurs.

01:12:19.800 You know, I mean, I guess that's his defense other than the, well, it was Photoshopped,

01:12:24.740 which is the least believable thing in the universe.

01:12:27.980 Did you hear her last night?

01:12:29.860 Did you hear this girl, uh, last night on, on BBC one?

01:12:33.260 I didn't, I didn't hear the interview.

01:12:34.220 I knew, uh, she was, uh, she is being, uh, interviewed.

01:12:38.380 She is so credible.

01:12:40.560 Her story is just terrible.

01:12:42.440 And Chad Prather talked about it yesterday, by the way we should talk about that.

01:12:45.900 Uh, Prather, uh, Chad Prather has a three part.

01:12:48.020 I believe he did a, an afterward as well, um, on the Epstein special.

01:12:51.300 You should go to, uh, uh, Chad Prather on blaze TV or on YouTube or on a podcast and listen

01:12:56.660 to the special cause he goes into the, you know, it's not everyone's talking about the suicide,

01:13:00.160 uh, or not lack of it, but the, the background of, of Epstein is incredible.

01:13:06.320 And, and Chad goes into it in, in, in real detail.

01:13:09.820 Nobody's really talking about this ranch that he, that he built.

01:13:12.600 The ranch thing is really weird.

01:13:14.200 Yeah.

01:13:14.440 In Mexico.

01:13:15.400 Yeah.

01:13:15.620 And like, it's, it's surrounded by the governor, by the governor's land who, by the way, the

01:13:20.800 King ranch, not to be confused with the King ranch here in, in Texas, but the King ranch

01:13:26.300 is responsible for a lot of America's corn.

01:13:30.140 And so is, is that what's stopping investigations on that?

01:13:34.740 This, this thing was apparently, uh, you know, ground zero for pedophilia.

01:13:41.800 Well, he, I, he definitely wanted to do something big with it too.

01:13:46.560 Well, he don't know exactly what happened there.

01:13:48.620 I know he, he did bring people to, I believe his first victim he took to, um, uh, a ranch.

01:13:54.860 Uh, she was a, an artist, if I'm not mistaken, right.

01:13:57.680 An artist, uh, who was underage.

01:14:00.240 That was in Ohio.

01:14:01.060 That was an Ohio.

01:14:01.960 That was a different, totally different ranch.

01:14:04.420 But he was known for this type of behavior where he would get isolated locations.

01:14:08.920 Uh, obviously the, the Island being probably the most famous one, but there was a ranch

01:14:12.740 there.

01:14:13.500 Uh, also the, the ranch in New Mexico where he would do all sorts of things.

01:14:18.280 Um, and you know, you, there's a level of, of investigation that needs to happen to flesh

01:14:23.660 out all of these different locations.

01:14:25.220 Cause all the stuff we know really about Epstein with concrete detail is from Miami.

01:14:30.560 We know that there are lots of stuff that the, even the Island stuff, we're not really

01:14:35.660 sure what went on there.

01:14:37.100 We're not even really sure what happened in New York in extreme detail and New Mexico

01:14:41.800 and Ohio or, or, or other locations where we know things happened.

01:14:46.680 We don't know all the details about it.

01:14:48.240 Miami is really the only one that has had the legitimate big investigation, legitimate

01:14:53.660 reporting, real, uh, criminal action.

01:14:57.120 And I don't think this story being swept under the rug, uh, is any different than the Ukrainian

01:15:04.240 story.

01:15:05.800 It's the same people.

01:15:07.340 It's the same, very, very powerful collection of people that have the media silent either

01:15:13.860 because, uh, I don't want to hurt them or silent because they'll sue the crap out of

01:15:19.520 us and they have protectors all up and down the line.

01:15:23.380 Yeah.

01:15:23.960 Are you watching, um, uh, have you watched the morning show yet?

01:15:27.920 Oh, that's the Apple TV plus thing.

01:15:29.840 No, I, I don't have it yet.

01:15:31.820 I don't, I haven't purchased it yet.

01:15:33.240 I can't recommend that show higher.

01:15:35.300 Really?

01:15:35.800 Yeah, it is.

01:15:36.720 That's a great cast.

01:15:37.760 And Jennifer Aniston's in it, but Steve Carell is in it.

01:15:40.440 I mean, it's a.

01:15:41.060 And our good friend, uh, what's his name?

01:15:42.840 The director.

01:15:44.500 Um, anyway, he plays the, he plays the, uh, executive producer of the show.

01:15:50.940 He's great in it.

01:15:52.440 Um, anyway, these, uh, it's a great show, but it is taking these things on.

01:15:57.680 Is it Mark Duplass?

01:15:58.680 Yes.

01:15:58.980 Oh, okay.

01:15:59.320 Yeah.

01:15:59.480 He's great.

01:16:00.140 Um, so, uh, it's taking this on.

01:16:03.320 It is talking about, um, you know, what really is me too, but in a very entertaining and not

01:16:11.960 a preachy way.

01:16:13.020 And, and in a way you've never seen it before because nobody I'm, I'm convinced no one, but

01:16:19.960 Apple, which is completely outside of the, you know, Hollywood and the news ecosphere.

01:16:27.660 You know, I'm convinced they're the only ones that could take this on because everybody

01:16:32.600 else has a skeleton in their closet.

01:16:35.080 And so they're, they're talking about the me too thing and who's protected and who's

01:16:40.880 not, who knew, who didn't, what do we cover?

01:16:44.400 When do we cover it?

01:16:45.600 How do we cover it?

01:16:47.080 I mean, it's fascinating.

01:16:49.080 It's fascinating.

01:16:49.920 Yeah.

01:16:49.980 I have to watch it.

01:16:50.680 You've been, you've been really.

01:16:52.300 It's great.

01:16:53.220 It is really one of the best shows on television.

01:16:55.900 I, it's surprising, honestly.

01:16:58.020 I mean, I would be, I expected they have, it would be nothing.

01:17:01.320 Yeah.

01:17:01.440 It would be a very traditional, we swear all men are evil type of look at this.

01:17:05.500 And it's kind of like more nuanced than that and more.

01:17:07.980 Oh, it's, it's, there were times that I'm like, yes.

01:17:11.780 I mean, it's amazing.

01:17:14.200 It is amazing.

01:17:15.180 By the time you get to the third, fourth episode, you're seeing stuff that you thought, but nobody

01:17:20.900 has said in public.

01:17:22.580 I just think it's, I think it's remarkable and I have absolutely no idea where it's going

01:17:28.920 to go.

01:17:29.960 I mean, I, I just, I haven't seen anything like this on television.

01:17:33.380 I have no idea what's going to happen even to the central, the Jennifer Aniston character.

01:17:38.640 Pretty sure she's not going to, you know, be fired or be lost off the cast.

01:17:44.140 But this last episode, I was, I thought there's a chance of that.

01:17:48.120 I mean, I have no idea that's really rare in television.

01:17:53.120 It is really rare.

01:17:53.840 Yeah.

01:17:54.040 You know, I will say, and we were talking about Epstein.

01:17:55.720 I also had no idea what was going to happen to Steven Crowder last week during his Epstein

01:17:59.380 special when he simulated the, uh, the potential suicide of Jeffrey Epstein inside the cell in

01:18:10.460 an evil Knievel outfit, uh, to make sure that you understood it was a stunt and, uh, it was

01:18:16.760 very dangerous.

01:18:17.700 Right.

01:18:18.380 And, uh, to put the, the correct amount of pressure needed to break all the bones in his

01:18:23.520 neck.

01:18:24.480 Uh, it made, did he use a paper sheet?

01:18:28.360 No, he did not use it.

01:18:29.420 He used a real sheet.

01:18:30.120 Uh, and he had to angle himself, um, in a way that would not have been possible for

01:18:37.820 Jeffrey Epstein to do.

01:18:40.600 Well, he needed assistance.

01:18:42.300 Uh, this is, you need to watch this.

01:18:44.640 It's on YouTube.

01:18:45.220 You can watch it.

01:18:46.020 But he has the whole recreation of it.

01:18:47.980 And, and I mean, he is wearing a neck brace.

01:18:51.960 So he, you know, he's protected, but he, he had measurements like legitimate scientific

01:18:56.380 measurements of, of how much pressure had to be put on the neck for this to occur.

01:19:01.860 Oh, I can't wait to see that.

01:19:03.360 And it was, it was very funny, but also, uh, like you look at it and you're just like, it

01:19:07.420 just seems really unlikely though.

01:19:12.180 You know, the evidence on the other side, I mean, they say that the, the, the cameras,

01:19:16.400 you know, a lot of talks a bit about the cameras were out.

01:19:18.560 Well, but the cameras of the area weren't out and they show no one going into this

01:19:23.340 vicinity.

01:19:24.040 Now, what is not seen mission impossible?

01:19:26.740 Well, I put a little mirror up there, a picture of it happens all the time.

01:19:29.920 That's what happens all the time.

01:19:30.640 That's right.

01:19:31.100 All the time.

01:19:31.380 I mean, and again, we haven't seen the video.

01:19:32.920 We're just taking their word for it.

01:19:34.200 Like, is it down a hallway?

01:19:35.400 Could there have been someone from another angle?

01:19:36.740 Could have been another person from another cell that was able to, and there's a million

01:19:40.580 different reasons as, as to why this could occur.

01:19:43.820 But, uh, you know, him starting from a kneeling position, which is what they say

01:19:48.240 happened and him hanging himself with his sheet from the top bunk.

01:19:51.900 I will say, didn't look likely when, when, when seeing it acted out, did not seem like

01:19:56.920 it's what happened.

01:19:58.000 There's a lot going on the blaze.

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01:22:59.160 Ah, welcome to the, uh, welcome to the program.

01:23:29.140 Hilary Clinton still considering running.

01:23:34.840 Uh, I don't think she is.

01:23:37.400 I don't even think this, this, the, we, we love to keep this alive, but there's no, there's

01:23:44.520 not, she's not, she's not running.

01:23:46.520 She's not, right?

01:23:47.860 I mean, there's no reason.

01:23:48.940 Notice you say, notice you say, right?

01:23:52.060 Right?

01:23:52.520 She's not.

01:23:53.200 Right?

01:23:53.920 I mean, Bloomberg coming in this late has at least a theoretical chance because he can

01:23:58.420 spend multiple billions of dollars.

01:24:00.900 This is not where Hillary is at this point.

01:24:03.420 Hillary has no support from her own party.

01:24:05.940 They don't want her doing this.

01:24:07.140 From her own family.

01:24:08.420 Right.

01:24:08.840 She, the only way Hillary Clinton is running for president in my view is a, like a Biden

01:24:14.620 wins and then has to drop out of the race in like October and they just slide in a Hillary

01:24:19.920 who's like ready to go and they give it a whirl.

01:24:21.880 That's to me, the only chance that's actually happening.

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01:24:59.260 It is incredible how these corporations have just silenced us and they get away with it

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01:25:10.160 All right.

01:25:11.620 We have coming up in just a second, some breaking news.

01:25:15.480 Justin Haskins is joining us.

01:25:17.760 He's with the Heartland Foundation and they have just done a new extensive survey on likely

01:25:23.660 voters about free speech, socialism, Sanders and Warren.

01:25:30.220 Not necessarily good news for the Republic.

01:25:36.060 We have those exclusive results of this poll.

01:25:38.940 He will announce them on this program in just a couple of minutes.

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01:26:09.000 There's been a new survey that has been done by the Heartland Foundation and it is, it's

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01:26:18.160 The question is, should you be allowed to say things in public that some might find hurtful

01:26:24.980 or offensive?

01:26:25.700 And if not, what should be done if you just go ahead and say them?

01:26:31.920 Should you go to jail?

01:26:33.540 Should there be some sort of penalty?

01:26:36.260 Wait until you see the latest survey.

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01:27:59.320 We have the one, the only, Justin Haskins on with us.

01:28:21.640 Hello, Justin.

01:28:23.460 Hi, Glenn.

01:28:24.300 How are you doing?

01:28:24.880 You know, I'm doing pretty good.

01:28:26.120 I'm doing pretty good.

01:28:26.780 You're the editorial director of the Heartland Institute, which I absolutely love.

01:28:31.780 You guys have done so much to fight many things, but lately you're really focusing on the fight

01:28:40.540 against socialism.

01:28:41.680 You just did a new Rasmussen study on likely voters.

01:28:46.480 Can you take us through this?

01:28:49.760 Yeah, absolutely.

01:28:50.420 So it was a poll conducted in the middle of November, November 13th and 14th, a thousand

01:28:56.820 likely voters.

01:28:57.540 And we asked them a variety of questions about Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, some questions

01:29:03.360 about socialism, and then some questions about free speech.

01:29:07.220 And I think that the most important, interesting question was about free speech, free speech

01:29:12.180 rights.

01:29:12.540 It was, should federal or state governments ban speech that a majority of Americans believes

01:29:18.840 to be offensive, including speech considered to be racist or sexist?

01:29:22.400 That's exact wording that we gave to the respondents.

01:29:26.060 And the results were a quarter of likely voters said, yes, we should ban speech.

01:29:32.820 Governments should ban that speech.

01:29:34.240 And among varying groups based on age, 37% of younger people said yes to that question.

01:29:40.960 That was the highest of any demographic based on age.

01:29:45.480 And 42% of government employees, which this might be the most interesting part of the survey,

01:29:51.800 said yes to that question.

01:29:53.040 So 42% of government employees that we surveyed said that we should ban speech that a majority

01:30:00.540 of people think is offensive.

01:30:01.800 That makes total sense to me.

01:30:03.440 It makes sense to you?

01:30:04.920 It makes absolute sense to me, especially when you think of this as a national survey,

01:30:09.520 right?

01:30:09.680 We're not polling people who are in Washington, D.C.

01:30:12.300 So we're polling government workers across the country.

01:30:15.280 Well, who are most government workers in most parts of the country?

01:30:19.640 Well, they're teachers.

01:30:21.120 And I think that that's why you're seeing this very far left view of free speech.

01:30:26.480 But it's incredibly disturbing when you realize that most of these people are probably your

01:30:32.140 local government workers.

01:30:33.240 You're probably mostly public school teachers.

01:30:36.420 So let me go through some of this because I think it's it's odd, which is better, a free

01:30:41.060 market economic system or socialism.

01:30:43.920 Sixty nine percent, which is good for today, I guess.

01:30:48.180 Sixty nine percent said a free market economic system.

01:30:50.860 Twelve percent said socialism and 18 percent said not sure.

01:30:56.940 OK, that's right.

01:30:58.600 Would you vote for a presidential candidate who identifies him or herself as a socialist?

01:31:02.740 Twenty six percent said yes.

01:31:06.200 There's only 12 percent that would identify as a socialist.

01:31:09.180 Twenty six percent said yes.

01:31:10.900 Fifty percent said no.

01:31:12.620 Twenty four percent said not sure.

01:31:14.860 Not where I'd like it, but not horrible, if you will.

01:31:19.040 Do you have favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable or very unfavorable impressions of

01:31:25.100 Bernie Sanders?

01:31:25.880 Eighteen percent, very favorable, twenty nine percent, somewhat favorable, 17, somewhat unfavorable, 31, very unfavorable and five.

01:31:37.620 Not sure.

01:31:38.160 What do they what do any of these numbers taken together begin to tell you anything?

01:31:45.280 Yeah, I think that the most important thing in the numbers that you just mentioned is that really a large percentage of Americans,

01:31:53.040 even people who identified as Democrats in our crosstabs, we found that it's basically one in three Democrats said that they do not they would not vote for a socialist candidate.

01:32:03.620 I don't know if Donald Trump is listening, but this might be helpful information in 2020, because if you can classify people as a socialist,

01:32:13.900 if you can if you can show Americans that what Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and other people are proposing out there is socialist is socialist policies,

01:32:22.920 then I think most Americans are going to reject it.

01:32:26.140 One of the really interesting things that we found in the data is that 20 percent, about 20 percent of both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warner,

01:32:35.820 Elizabeth Warner's own supporters said that they would not vote for a socialist candidate.

01:32:43.200 We're talking about the people who had the highest favorability view of Bernie Sanders said that they would not vote for a socialist candidate for president.

01:32:53.080 Well, that's that's really interesting.

01:32:54.720 Do they not realize that Bernie Sanders is a socialist?

01:32:57.960 I mean, do they not know that that's who they're that they're supporting?

01:33:01.800 And I mean, I think that that tells you that a lot of people are very confused about what they're hearing from people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

01:33:10.940 Do you support legislation that would ban private ownership of assault rifles?

01:33:15.600 Forty nine percent said yes.

01:33:18.320 Forty three percent said no.

01:33:20.420 And only eight percent are not sure.

01:33:22.920 Yeah.

01:33:24.720 Yeah, very, very disturbing, I think.

01:33:28.520 I think that the not just the assault rifle question, but also the question that we asked about the Second Amendment.

01:33:34.760 Do you support repealing?

01:33:36.280 Do you support repealing the Second Amendment, which currently guarantees America's right to bear arms?

01:33:42.440 Twenty four percent said yes.

01:33:45.020 Ten percent said not sure.

01:33:46.700 Sixty six percent said no.

01:33:48.260 That's right.

01:33:49.780 And a third of eighteen to thirty nine year olds, a third, thirty three percent said that they would support banning the Second Amendment.

01:33:58.580 So it's twenty four percent overall of all likely voters, but thirty three percent of younger people.

01:34:04.720 So over time, this is going to get is only going to become a bigger problem.

01:34:08.660 And about a third, by the way, of Democrats said that they support repealing the Second Amendment.

01:34:13.500 So I think we have a lot of work to do, Glenn, teaching people about the importance of the Second Amendment and what it really means.

01:34:20.980 Well, it's what's what's frightening is this is showing the deterioration of the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment and the Second Amendment.

01:34:29.620 You lose those, you lose everything else.

01:34:32.100 Yeah, without question.

01:34:33.540 And I think it goes all the way back to what we talked about earlier in the conversation when we were saying that there's such a high support for socialism amongst government workers.

01:34:42.860 And most of those government workers are teachers.

01:34:46.760 What are they teaching our kids?

01:34:48.400 Yeah, they're teaching our kids that the Second Amendment is awful and that it should be repealed.

01:34:52.900 They're teaching our kids that hate speech, that things that are considered to be offensive speech should not be allowed in a free society.

01:34:59.860 They are they are teaching our kids to reject the Constitution, to reject the Bill of Rights, to reject individual liberty.

01:35:06.040 And that's why I think you're seeing younger people support these socialist policies at a much higher rate than you're seeing older people.

01:35:14.380 So I just want to give I just want to restate these 46 percent of those who identified as working for the government.

01:35:21.580 You say it's mainly teachers support legislation that would ban private ownership of assault rifles.

01:35:28.380 Only 43 percent of independents and 32 percent of Republicans say they support legislation that would ban private ownership of assault style rifles.

01:35:39.080 Thirty two percent of Republicans would.

01:35:42.200 Well, you got to remember that third that I think that that's pretty accurate.

01:35:49.700 These are likely voters.

01:35:50.800 I think that that's a reflection of what's been going on with the media and the fact that media has been banging this drum for a very long time and that most people still don't really understand what assault rifles are.

01:36:03.700 Support amongst Republicans for repealing the Second Amendment was pretty low.

01:36:09.940 So I think that's a positive.

01:36:11.600 But I think that people don't understand what socialism is.

01:36:15.220 I don't think they understand what assault rifles are.

01:36:17.260 I don't think that they understand what rights are.

01:36:20.300 What rights are.

01:36:21.260 Right.

01:36:21.620 I think fundamentally they do not understand the importance of freedom.

01:36:26.000 I think that's what this shows predominantly.

01:36:29.060 And that's where we need to focus our attention.

01:36:30.940 And I think it's worse with younger people than with older people.

01:36:33.800 It's worse worse with Democrats than with Republicans.

01:36:36.920 It's even worse with Bernie Sanders supporters and Elizabeth Warren supporters.

01:36:41.000 But it's not good all across the board.

01:36:44.340 We have to start with foundational core principles and work our way up from there.

01:36:51.300 How do you do that, Justin?

01:36:52.840 I mean, I know this is what you do for a living at the Heartland Institute.

01:36:56.380 This is what you do for a living.

01:36:57.720 How do you do that?

01:36:58.500 How do we turn this around when it is institutionalized in our educational system from birth to graduation?

01:37:09.860 Right.

01:37:10.520 So the two things, I think, the two most important ways to battle these problems, to fight against socialism,

01:37:17.500 number one, you absolutely, every single parent, every single grandparent, aunt, uncle, friend, family member who's concerned about this issue needs to talk to younger people about these issues.

01:37:28.360 They need to teach kids while they're in the school system, before they get into the public school system, basic core concepts about individual rights and respecting other people's rights.

01:37:38.280 That's number one.

01:37:39.660 We have to take that seriously.

01:37:41.320 Number two, we need to break the stranglehold that the government has on public education.

01:37:48.400 And the only way to do that is with school choice.

01:37:51.480 There are universal school choice ideas that have been out there for a very long time, universal education, savings accounts, programs, etc.

01:37:57.900 We don't have them even in the most conservative states.

01:38:01.340 Why don't we have that in states like Texas and Alabama and places where Republicans have been in charge for a long time?

01:38:08.180 We don't have it there either.

01:38:09.280 It is shocking to me how bad Texas, you know, I lived here in the 80s and Texas was a different place in the 80s compared to what it is now.

01:38:17.700 It is drifted far.

01:38:19.980 Texas, you know, has very powerful unions and teachers, you know, the teachers federation here is very, very strong.

01:38:30.420 They have they have taken over our schools and nobody wants to do anything about it, at least in the upper levels.

01:38:37.300 You're right. And it's not just in Texas. It's all across the country.

01:38:42.160 The most conservative states in the country, the teachers unions, are still the most powerful political organization at the state level in many cases, but especially at the local level.

01:38:52.640 I mean, at the local level, teachers dominate virtually every election.

01:38:57.120 They decide who is going to be put in control of school boards and local elections for city council and things like that.

01:39:04.740 That's mostly decided by teachers and teachers are being taught at far left teachers colleges across the country where they're being indoctrinated with the idea that they need to be indoctrinating other people about socialism.

01:39:17.660 And so it's this endless cycle, this drift in conservative states and in liberal states and in moderate states, this drift towards socialism, because foundationally, the people who are teaching younger people are all on the left side of the political spectrum.

01:39:35.260 And the only way to get rid of that is to have school choice so that parents can take their kids out of those schools and put them in schools that embrace the values that they believe in.

01:39:46.020 But right now, unless you can afford a private school or unless you can afford to homeschool your child, you don't have that that option.

01:39:52.420 And so conservatives need to make it clear that if no Republican should be supported, no conservative candidate should be supported, no Democrat, no political candidate should be supported unless they embrace school choice.

01:40:06.420 Well, thank you for doing the survey and and and breaking that survey here.

01:40:13.160 And hopefully it will be picked up because I think so many people have no idea how bad things are really, truly getting in America and something better wake them up pretty soon.

01:40:27.920 Justin, thank you so much.

01:40:29.860 Thanks, Glenn.

01:40:30.600 You bet. Bye bye.

01:40:31.400 By the way, Justin is a guy who has helped write the next book called Arguing with Socialists.

01:40:41.240 It comes out after the first of the year.

01:40:43.480 I think it comes out right right before the Super Tuesday, does it not?

01:40:47.240 Arguing against Socialists.

01:40:48.440 It's a great, great book, you know, cut from the cloth of the arguing with idiots and and an inconvenient book.

01:40:56.200 You're going to love it. And it makes a great gift for anyone who is being indoctrinated in school.

01:41:04.200 They may not like it so much, but they'll read if they just open it, if they'll just open it, all of the facts are in.

01:41:14.660 I mean, I think this is the most footnotes we have of any book we've ever written and it's all well documented and it's hard to argue, hard to argue.

01:41:23.980 They'll just open it.

01:41:25.120 Good luck with that, but buy it for them anyway.

01:41:28.260 And maybe one day they'll be stuck in an elevator with it and they'll be forced to read it.

01:41:32.860 Yeah. Well, I mean, here's the thing.

01:41:34.200 What's going to happen is you're going to have it, you're going to read it.

01:41:37.540 And then when they're sitting around and they're talking to you, you're going to know what their argument is and you're going to be able to argue it yourself.

01:41:44.540 So, all right.

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01:42:01.020 Yeah, sure.

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01:43:08.500 We break for 10 seconds.

01:43:23.540 Is anybody else getting to the point to where you're like,

01:43:29.280 I feel like Gene Wilder at the end of the producers,

01:43:35.560 no way out, no way out.

01:43:38.260 There is a way out.

01:43:39.420 There is a way out.

01:43:40.300 We just have to choose to do it.

01:43:42.340 And we have to get back to where we were.

01:43:46.180 I think we were so beaten up with the Tea Party.

01:43:48.540 Because the Tea Party was about elections.

01:43:53.440 And, you know, the 9-12 project was not about elections.

01:43:56.540 It was about education.

01:43:57.720 It was about principles and values.

01:44:00.540 And those never go out of style.

01:44:03.320 And those are the things that we have to get back to teaching and to living in our own life.

01:44:09.980 Yeah, I agree that that would be an ideal solution.

01:44:16.560 I mean, I feel like it gets tougher and tougher,

01:44:18.960 particularly right now with the way the media covers Trump,

01:44:24.000 to think any, you know, further along than whatever today's news cycle item is.

01:44:29.600 But don't you see that the news cycle is getting less and less credible.

01:44:36.700 I mean, people are not watching it as much as they used to.

01:44:40.340 They're not listening to it as much.

01:44:42.360 I mean, we pay in media, in talk radio,

01:44:46.420 we pay more attention to the mainstream media than I think the average person does.

01:44:53.300 The average person doesn't.

01:44:54.520 They'll get it from Facebook and everything else.

01:44:56.260 They're not getting it, you know, from all of these shows that, you know, CNN, nobody's watching CNN.

01:45:02.400 Yeah, I mean, that coverage, though, does inform all the other coverage.

01:45:06.380 And it trickles down.

01:45:07.860 It's not just what CNN reports.

01:45:09.200 It's that 500 other sources report on what CNN reports.

01:45:12.560 Correct.

01:45:13.180 So it does get, the influence is significant.

01:45:16.040 Well, you know, the only problem on fixing this,

01:45:19.580 and until we solve this, we're not going to be able to solve anything.

01:45:23.000 Um, there is no investigative journalist news arm that is credible that the conservatives can all feast off of, you know?

01:45:36.520 Like, for instance, we do investigative, you know, reporting on Ukraine.

01:45:41.140 Well, let me just, let me flip this around.

01:45:44.720 Um, you know, um, Ben Shapiro does something.

01:45:50.100 We're so busy that we don't necessarily see Ben Shapiro.

01:45:53.960 But if Ben Shapiro, or if, if there was a news source that Ben was basing his opinion off,

01:46:02.240 and it wasn't directly competitive for everybody,

01:46:06.320 if there was a news source that was out there that maybe all of us put our money into,

01:46:12.800 we could, we could go on our own narrative.

01:46:16.360 Right now, we can only respond to their narrative,

01:46:20.860 because they're the only ones producing the news.

01:46:24.680 We're commenting on it.

01:46:26.380 But we need a conservative news that's credible, that is big, robust, and can compete,

01:46:34.340 has the money to be able to compete.

01:46:37.040 Because if we're all going off of CNN,

01:46:39.800 we're all going to be talking about what they want us to talk about.

01:46:42.180 Right.

01:46:42.440 They're setting the agenda.

01:46:43.580 Right.

01:46:43.820 And we can say, well, this part of it is wrong, and here's why.

01:46:47.300 Right.

01:46:47.620 But we're still responding to them.

01:46:48.820 They don't have to respond to us, because we're just voices and opinions on what they've done.

01:46:56.720 If there is credible journalism being done on the right that we can all comment on,

01:47:03.540 then we flip the table, and everybody has to respond.

01:47:07.560 They have to respond to what our journalists have dug up and said.

01:47:12.220 And that's only going to happen if all of the people on the right start to get together

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01:48:50.280 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:49:18.920 Italian police say that they have seized weapons and far-right propaganda material

01:49:24.780 from the homes of 19 suspected extremists

01:49:27.700 who are hoping to form a Nazi party in the country.

01:49:32.500 Not always a good idea.

01:49:35.280 To start a Nazi?

01:49:36.280 To start a Nazi party.

01:49:38.520 It's also, you know, this is going to be extremely unpopular

01:49:42.940 and will be taken out of context.

01:49:44.880 So just know here is the whole context.

01:49:48.300 I completely understand in Germany why they did that.

01:49:53.080 I mean, at the time, they banned the Nazi party.

01:49:56.040 And, you know, at the time, I can't imagine, you know,

01:49:59.640 if you just fought that war and you got out of a concentration camp

01:50:02.940 and somebody's like, yeah, well, my neighbor's going to a Nazi rally.

01:50:05.960 You'd be like, what, what, what, what?

01:50:07.580 Wait, that's still happening?

01:50:08.520 It's still happening?

01:50:09.280 Didn't we just defeat that?

01:50:10.340 I mean, it's, it, so I don't know what I would have done in Germany.

01:50:13.660 Um, however, the idea that the Italian police are going to shut down these people.

01:50:21.180 Now, if it's violent, yes.

01:50:23.180 And strangely, Nazis usually are.

01:50:26.680 Um, but the idea of shutting down a party or shutting down speech really bothers me.

01:50:33.080 You know, it, uh, it seems foreign is the way I would put it.

01:50:37.180 Yes.

01:50:37.580 You know, it, it seems like a weird cultural thing that would happen in Europe,

01:50:41.940 but couldn't happen here because we have something called a first amendment.

01:50:45.000 And no matter how bad the ideas are from a, I mean, there have been, I mean, the American

01:50:51.880 Nazi party is, it was a, oh, in the 1930s, it was huge, huge.

01:50:56.900 It supported FDR.

01:50:58.280 But even way after the war, I mean, it was still active in the, in the United States.

01:51:02.660 Uh, one of the, they had a presidential candidate who would run all the time, eventually was

01:51:05.820 assassinated shockingly by, by another Nazi.

01:51:08.760 Um, but, uh, they, that was something that's real.

01:51:12.420 And to this day, I mean, you know, we all know people in this audience, at least know

01:51:15.760 that communists have killed a lot more people than Nazis have.

01:51:18.360 And we have an American communist party too.

01:51:20.300 We have a socialist workers party.

01:51:21.740 We have a bunch of parties that represent communism.

01:51:24.860 I have a real problem with the, the communist witch hunt to the 1950s.

01:51:29.160 I mean, they didn't have a right to go in and, and that's, that's not American.

01:51:33.480 It's not American.

01:51:33.680 It's not American to say that specific ideas should be banned.

01:51:38.720 We, we dismiss them.

01:51:40.200 We mock them.

01:51:40.980 We win against them, but we don't ban political parties.

01:51:46.040 Obviously there are exceptions at the extremes when you're talking about like, if a party

01:51:50.020 is advocating the murder of the guy down the street, well, that's a totally different

01:51:54.480 law.

01:51:55.100 It's not violent.

01:51:56.060 Right.

01:51:56.340 But I mean, an idea like up until including the idea that, Hey, um, you know, Bob over there

01:52:03.040 is in the Nazi party.

01:52:04.080 He thinks he's superior to Jews.

01:52:05.580 Is that allowed?

01:52:06.420 Yeah.

01:52:06.560 He can say that.

01:52:07.580 Yeah.

01:52:08.380 He can say it.

01:52:09.080 He can form an entire party around how he's better than Jews and he can try to change

01:52:12.620 the laws.

01:52:13.440 Uh, I will fight every day to make sure that he does not succeed.

01:52:17.600 Uh, and he won't succeed in this country because that is not, that's not what this country

01:52:21.640 was built on.

01:52:22.500 Here, here's, here's a real life example.

01:52:25.180 Uh, how can you be against white supremacy in the United States of America and the idea

01:52:31.160 of living in a supremacist state based on race and class, but then support a state like Israel

01:52:36.200 that is built on supremacy.

01:52:38.840 So this is Linda Sarsour.

01:52:41.140 Of course.

01:52:41.600 That is saying that Jews think they are supreme to everyone else.

01:52:46.080 No, no, that's not, that's not what they think.

01:52:49.520 No, that's not what they think.

01:52:50.860 Um, and does she have a right to say that?

01:52:53.860 Yes.

01:52:54.820 Do I have a right to disagree with her vehemently?

01:52:57.860 Yes.

01:52:58.500 Do I have a right to say she should go to jail for that?

01:53:01.940 No, no one, no one has that right.

01:53:04.400 Because once you take that right from her, it can be taken from you.

01:53:10.980 And that's not even the, that's a good way to personalize it, but it's not the reason

01:53:16.560 you do it.

01:53:17.340 It's, you don't do it because it could be taken away from you, whether, whether you

01:53:21.120 think that can happen or not, that's a good way of personalizing it.

01:53:24.080 So you realize the impact of it.

01:53:25.380 But in reality, if their ideas are terrible, they're still allowed to be said.

01:53:30.100 We say this, a lot of people make this point, um, all the time with abortion, where they'll

01:53:34.540 say, uh, people on the, on the right will say, look, you're aborting all these kids.

01:53:39.180 You could have aborted the next Einstein.

01:53:40.580 You could have aborted, uh, the next scientists or world leader.

01:53:43.760 That's absolutely true.

01:53:45.060 You also could have aborted a bunch of people who suck, who are the people that get in your

01:53:50.000 way at McDonald's and the drive-thru and take too long.

01:53:53.120 And the person who screws up your, your, your order at the window and right, exactly.

01:53:57.440 That's the point, right?

01:53:58.460 Whether they're the next world leader or the next Einstein, it doesn't matter.

01:54:01.880 They get a right to live.

01:54:03.380 They get a chance to live their lives.

01:54:07.080 Um, that's really, really important.

01:54:09.860 And a lot of times we kind of personalize it and say, well, if we lose, uh, if they lose

01:54:14.780 their right to speak, well, we might lose our right to speak.

01:54:16.840 Well, whether we do or not, it's not the issue.

01:54:19.260 It is their right to say dumb things.

01:54:22.820 So, you know what, you know, what happened is there was this perversion, I think of this

01:54:26.440 American idea that you don't talk religion in politics.

01:54:31.240 Yeah.

01:54:32.080 And you didn't do that because polite company, you just don't talk about that stuff, but that

01:54:39.200 didn't come from, uh, anything other than, I mean, I got the lectures when I was a kid.

01:54:45.440 I'm sure you did too.

01:54:47.220 Your parents would talk to you and say, they have a right.

01:54:50.480 They have a right to believe that.

01:54:51.840 You can think that they're wrong all you want, but you don't tell them what to think.

01:54:58.560 You don't tell them unless they're breaking the law and hurting other people, you don't

01:55:04.560 tell them what to think or do.

01:55:06.700 It's none of your business.

01:55:08.040 I mean, you can make an argument.

01:55:09.680 You can try to persuade them.

01:55:11.060 Yeah.

01:55:11.680 But you certainly don't use the power of the state to stop them from doing something

01:55:15.620 that's legal and not threatening someone else, right?

01:55:18.660 That, you know, you can, I mean, look, faith is something that makes arguments and judgments

01:55:23.160 all the time about people's behavior.

01:55:24.780 There's nothing wrong with judging other people's behavior.

01:55:27.320 You can say all the time, you think that their behavior is wrong.

01:55:30.400 Here's why I think it's wrong.

01:55:31.720 Here's what I think you should do.

01:55:33.120 But to legislate the morality is not right.

01:55:36.700 You can't.

01:55:37.380 I agree with that.

01:55:38.440 And I think there's some disagreement even on the right at this point on this.

01:55:42.380 And it goes not only to sort of moral causes, but also economic ones where there's this

01:55:49.000 idea.

01:55:50.600 Josh Hammer put this really well because of this dividing line on the right.

01:55:55.460 He phrased it this way.

01:55:56.580 I think this is a great way of thinking about it.

01:55:58.620 And I have a really clear answer to this one.

01:56:00.440 But I do think that this is the divide on the right as it stands today.

01:56:05.180 He says, the fundamental dividing question right now for those of us on the political

01:56:09.020 right, is individual liberty worth pursuing as an intrinsically just end?

01:56:14.800 Or is it merely a means sometimes worth pursuing toward a distinct political end like justice

01:56:21.280 or human suffering?

01:56:22.700 No, it's a just end.

01:56:23.080 It's a just end in and of itself to me.

01:56:26.120 That is completely black and white.

01:56:29.100 There is no justice if you shut people's thought and speech down.

01:56:36.240 There's no justice.

01:56:37.480 Yeah.

01:56:37.820 And even if the culture turns against the things that you believe are right, even if you're

01:56:44.620 losing those battles, you fight harder, you try to win.

01:56:49.480 But you don't bring the state in to put your values on the entire society.

01:56:54.200 And we're seeing that, I think, economically.

01:56:56.040 I mean, Tucker Carlson makes this point.

01:56:57.320 I think he's a smart guy and he makes this point well.

01:56:59.340 Oren Kass wrote an entire book about it.

01:57:02.300 But it's using the power of the government to go towards just specific economic goals that

01:57:10.960 the right is friendly with.

01:57:12.640 I mean, John McCain did a lot of this.

01:57:13.900 You know, you see this with people like Mike Huckabee, where he will take the power of

01:57:20.840 his office as governor.

01:57:22.260 And you know what?

01:57:23.140 I believe gluttony is wrong and people are too fat and we should change the way people

01:57:28.840 eat.

01:57:29.420 Bloomberg is a great example of it.

01:57:31.540 Although sometimes his ends are liberal, sometimes they are.

01:57:34.760 They were conservative, but he uses the state to push those things through.

01:57:39.240 And, you know, when it comes, there are exceptions and there's nuance throughout this entire

01:57:44.500 argument.

01:57:45.260 But to me, as a fundamental question, the freedom and liberty is the end.

01:57:52.140 That's what we're targeting.

01:57:54.360 This is really so very simple.

01:57:57.180 I don't know why there's a disagreement on it.

01:57:58.740 If you believe in the Declaration of Independence, the Declaration of Independence is our mission

01:58:04.560 statement.

01:58:05.000 It was the letter to the king.

01:58:06.640 Look, you don't understand us.

01:58:08.100 You don't even know who we are.

01:58:09.820 We think differently here.

01:58:11.460 And we believe that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain

01:58:16.400 inalienable rights.

01:58:17.260 Among these, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

01:58:19.380 And that the government is instituted among men to protect those rights.

01:58:24.020 That's it.

01:58:25.080 There's nothing in the Declaration of Independence that says, and because of that, we're going

01:58:29.540 to redistribute the wealth or we're going to make things more fair as a government.

01:58:34.740 No.

01:58:35.680 And pursuit of happiness is really key here, too.

01:58:38.660 Right?

01:58:38.760 Pursuit.

01:58:39.680 It doesn't mean that we use the government to guarantee it because we think these things

01:58:43.020 are wonderful.

01:58:43.740 Right.

01:58:44.100 You know, it's the pursuit.

01:58:45.840 You have the freedom to be able to pursue what you believe will make you happy.

01:58:49.560 And you know what?

01:58:50.380 You might fall flat on your face over and over again and never achieve it.

01:58:54.440 So, period.

01:58:55.180 So, anyone who says, well, we've got a social engineer.

01:58:58.820 We have to do this.

01:58:59.600 We have to do that.

01:59:00.740 That is not the government's role.

01:59:03.540 The mission statement, the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.

01:59:08.760 was saying, this is what it looks like when we get there.

01:59:13.960 This is the finished product.

01:59:17.160 A place where all men know that they are equal.

01:59:20.580 They're created equal.

01:59:21.960 And they can pursue that happiness any way they want.

01:59:25.360 And the government's role is to protect that individual from doing what they feel is right

01:59:31.900 as long as they're not killing people and, you know, stealing.

01:59:35.920 That's it.

01:59:36.860 That's what we're supposed to be doing.

01:59:39.860 We believe, as Americans, or at least we used to, we believe in the power of the individual.

01:59:47.620 And if you want to empower individuals, you're going to have to live with the fact they're going to make choices that you're not going to like.

01:59:55.820 You're a parent.

01:59:57.420 When you're a parent, you know at some point you've got to let it go.

02:00:02.020 You've done everything you can.

02:00:04.120 They're going to make decisions that you don't agree with.

02:00:07.280 Some of them might work out to your surprise.

02:00:09.700 Some of them are going to end exactly the way you thought that they would end.

02:00:12.820 But you don't tell your children exactly what to do, or you drive a wedge between you and them.

02:00:20.780 You'll destroy your relationship.

02:00:24.060 We are looking at our government as a parent and telling the parent to get involved in all of these adults' lives

02:00:32.620 and tell them what's right or wrong.

02:00:36.240 It automatically drives a wedge between people and between the government.

02:00:42.820 But that's not who we are.

02:00:44.980 That's not what this system was meant to be.

02:00:47.040 You want that system?

02:00:48.540 Design a new system.

02:00:50.020 But that's not what this one is.

02:00:51.680 Yeah.

02:00:52.440 I agree with you.

02:00:53.700 I mean, and that's the part that bothers me.

02:00:56.320 I mean, the second part of this statement, which is,

02:00:59.140 is individual liberty merely a means sometimes worth pursuing toward a distinct political end,

02:01:05.960 is the way the left thinks about the world.

02:01:09.100 Yes.

02:01:09.220 The left uses individual liberty when they want abortion.

02:01:13.720 It's a nice little trick to get you, because they want abortion.

02:01:17.140 So that one thing, they say, individual liberty is really important.

02:01:20.600 Can't get in the way of, between a woman and her doctor.

02:01:23.480 It's her body, her choice.

02:01:24.960 It's all individual liberty.

02:01:26.460 Because it's not a principle.

02:01:27.780 It's just a means to get to whatever they want today.

02:01:30.520 And so if we go down that road, we're them.

02:01:33.700 We are them.

02:01:35.500 It is a intrinsically just end to pursue individual liberty.

02:01:41.860 Not the other way around.

02:01:43.400 And we, we have, in the midst of the political arguments, we do lose that, I think, sometimes.

02:01:48.960 And I think that's dangerous.

02:01:50.620 We have to remember, you know, we're different from the left, not just because we want slightly different policies.

02:01:56.740 Because what happens is you get the Bloomberg thing, where Bloomberg has been a Republican and a Democrat.

02:02:02.800 I don't know that he's changed positions on anything.

02:02:04.820 No.

02:02:04.980 He's just going down whatever road serves him at whatever time.

02:02:07.640 And he's, and he's a big time progressive.

02:02:10.200 And so he's able to use the power of the state to whatever ends he wants.

02:02:14.640 We, we need to be different.

02:02:16.020 I don't want to be Michael Bloomberg.

02:02:16.900 I don't want to be anything like Michael Bloomberg.

02:02:19.500 I don't want him anywhere near me, the party I belong to, the, the, the principles that I have.

02:02:24.820 He's no, and it is largely soda based, my opposition.

02:02:28.120 Sure.

02:02:30.060 But it's true.

02:02:31.040 I don't want to be anywhere near the guy.

02:02:32.720 Right.

02:02:34.120 Get away from my soda, man.

02:02:36.240 Anything else?

02:02:37.240 Get away from everything of mine.

02:02:37.840 Well, Michael Bloomberg, I lived in New York.

02:02:40.060 I, I lived in his city.

02:02:42.180 And, uh, get out of my house, get out of my bedroom, get off of my phone, get out of my car, get off my streets.

02:02:51.700 All right.

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02:04:00.760 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

02:04:05.280 See, I don't think there's enough people, and it's getting harder and harder every day because you're counting clicks.

02:04:34.500 You're counting likes as popularity, as success.

02:04:40.500 And so I don't know if there is the understanding that pursuit of happiness does not mean success.

02:04:51.920 You know, America has been made into a land of stuff and a land of plenty.

02:04:58.260 Whoever has the most wins and is happy.

02:05:00.620 You look at people in Hollywood and everything else, and I'm not saying you, but, you know, most of the people will look at that and say, you know, they're happy.

02:05:09.040 No, they're not.

02:05:09.600 They're miserable.

02:05:10.760 They're miserable.

02:05:11.820 Do you think Greta Thunberg is happy?

02:05:15.840 She's miserable.

02:05:17.480 She's physically incapable of smiling.

02:05:19.300 Oh, my gosh.

02:05:20.000 How would you even know?

02:05:20.880 Do you want to live that way?

02:05:22.360 Barbara Streisand, I don't care how much money or fame, I don't want to live like her.

02:05:27.280 And so it's not about success.

02:05:30.740 It's about the pursuit of happiness.

02:05:33.600 What makes you happy?

02:05:35.940 This bothered me so much when we first had children, and Tanya was a born mother.

02:05:41.520 She was just born to be the best mom ever.

02:05:45.100 And she's done it, and that's pursuing her happiness.

02:05:50.020 But the world was doing everything they could to convince her that you're a stay-at-home mom, you're worthless.

02:05:56.160 Well, no, it might not be what that person wants to be, but that's what she wants to be.

02:06:02.700 Why do you have to force your view on her?

02:06:04.780 She's not going to force it on you.

02:06:08.160 Pursue your happiness.

02:06:10.600 And happiness, believe me, does not come with money and success.

02:06:16.440 You can rent it, but it's a very short term, very short term.

02:06:21.560 Happiness comes from doing what you feel is right.

02:06:24.860 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

02:06:34.780 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

02:06:43.160 Thank you.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 03, 2019

The Media’s Working Hard to 'Debunk' FACTS ｜ Guests： Sen. John Kennedy & Justin Haskins ｜ 12⧸3⧸19

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