The Most Dangerous AI Story Glenn Has Ever Heard | Guests: Robby Starbuck & Brad Meltzer | 5⧸23⧸25
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Summary
Claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament and lost in the first round. Luckily, she was covered by Intact, the nation s largest network of auto service centers, and she was on her way in a rental car in no time.
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Claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament.
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She was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind her car on her backhand side.
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Good thing Claudia's with Intact, the insurer with the largest network of auto service centers in the country.
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Everything was taken care of under one roof and she was on her way in a rental car in no time.
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I made it to my tournament and lost in the first round.
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A plan that cost them more than they could afford.
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A plan that left them uncovered when they needed that help most.
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If you've ever had to clean up that kind of mess for somebody you love, you know the feeling, the anger, the helplessness.
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That's exactly what drove the founders of Chapter to do things differently.
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You know, while I'm here talking about phone companies,
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I'd just like to thank Direct, the phone company that we have up here by the ranch,
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that I want to thank them for making this the hardest broadcast week of my 50-year career,
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We have spent an enormous amount of money and an enormous amount of time
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trying to make this into a state-of-the-art broadcast studio on both sides,
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And since Tuesday, we have had nothing but problems
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because Direct works with a company named Zayo.
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And apparently, somebody can't get the message to Zayo
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So if you are a customer of Zayo, you might think twice.
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If you're a customer of Direct and you happen to be talking to them,
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you might want to thank them for their speedy, speedy service
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in fixing the problem on their communication system.
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I'm not a customer of either one of those companies, so I'm doing pretty well.
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Yeah, so you're good. You're good. You're good.
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And the good news is they've had three or four days to fix things,
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But I'm sure they're working on it right before this three-day weekend.
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So we'll be going into next week with the same problems.
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Anyway, so let's talk about what happened in Washington.
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And yesterday we told you about the shooting of these two kids.
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They were in Washington, these two Jewish people.
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You know where they were when they were shot down by this socialist radical?
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I know they were in Washington, D.C., right by the museum.
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I know they were across the street from the FBI building,
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which is kind of interesting, and two blocks away from the D.C. police.
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They were actually at a fundraiser to help the people of Gaza.
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So they were at a fundraiser to help the people of Gaza with food and everything else,
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and the Free Palestine guy comes in and shoots them.
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Yeah, there's one thing we have learned very clearly over the past couple of years
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is being a Jew and being in favor of the people in Gaza does not protect you.
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Ask the people on October 7th who were right across the border and lived there
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because they were so friendly, many of them, to Gaza and wound up getting murdered on October 7th.
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Because one side actually cares about human life.
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So they were at Access, the young diplomat's reception,
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and all of the attendees, what they were doing there was discussing how to bring more aid to the Gaza Strip.
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Have you heard anybody really talk about that at all?
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I mean, don't you think that's kind of an important part of the story?
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I mean, to the left and to the Hamas side of the left, it doesn't matter.
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That's the question that they need the answer to.
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So the murderer, we're going to get into him here in just a second.
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He comes out, and he has a H&K 9-millimeter pistol.
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He then reloads as Milgram, the girl, is trying to crawl away.
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She's been injured, and she's trying to crawl away from him.
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He then drops the weapon, and he runs into the museum.
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Now, when he runs into the museum, all of the Jews in the museum, they think he's a victim.
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He was wearing a suit, glasses, brownish-black hair.
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So someone brought him over water, sat him down, and kept checking in on him to make sure he was okay.
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Then when he collects himself, he produces his scarf, and then he says,
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From the river to the sea, there's only one solution.
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Now we find out that he has ties to a radical left-wing group, Party for Socialism and Liberation.
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Now, Stu, do you know anyone, anyone at all on the national scene that has been saying,
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this is coming because socialism always produces this?
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You know, anybody, anybody at all you can think of.
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I heard a show once, maybe every day for 20-some-odd years that was talking about this.
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The radicals you need to worry about are the Christians.
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Law enforcement sources have told the New York Post that he was a regular fixture at protests
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for causes including the 2014 police shooting of teen Laquan McDonald, Black Lives Matter,
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He has recently been on all the rallies opposing the war in Gaza.
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Now, this is how pathetic and a loser this guy is.
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He has a GoFundMe page, and it dates back to 2017, and it shows that he was self-radicalized
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because he has spent his time in the far-left politics world.
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He was born and raised in Chicago, bachelor's degree in English from the University of Illinois,
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and here's, I mean, if this, if he didn't hold the dream job, I mean, I would, I wouldn't
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kill anybody, but I would, I would be willing to go to prison if this was my job.
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He was a content writer for the American Osteopathic Information Association.
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Now, that's got to be some riveting stuff that they're writing about every day there.
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Now, his GoFundMe page raised a lot of money for him.
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He was asking for donations because he wanted to go to the People's Congress of Resistance,
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which was a leftist gathering in Washington, D.C. that rallied under the slogan,
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Stand Against Imperialism Down with a Warfare State.
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And he needed money to be able to go, and so he put a GoFundMe page together,
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So, he didn't go, but he described himself online as a son of an Army National Guardsman
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When my dad came home from Baghdad, he came back with souvenirs.
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One of them was a magazine pouch with a warning in Arabic to back away,
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He joked the print was so small and Iraqi would be dead long before they had a chance to read it.
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He also gave me a patch of an Iraqi national flag
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that he once ripped off an Iraqi soldier's uniform because he could.
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I don't want to see another generation of Americans coming home from genocidal wars with trophies.
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Police now are investigating whether he penned an anti-Israel manifesto
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and he says the killings are an act of political protest ignited by the war in Gaza.
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Stu, when you gun somebody down in the streets as a political protest,
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He says an armed action is not necessarily a military action.
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a reference to the six-year-old Palestinian-American boy
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Hello, America. It is not only Friday, the last Mission Impossible comes out this weekend,
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and it's a three-day weekend. Could it get any better? We go on what is happening this weekend
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and into some of the good things that have happened this week. Also, my podcast with
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Ro Khanna. I want to talk about that a little bit. And we also have Robbie Starbuck on. I love this
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guy. He is talking now about Meta, how they have to be held accountable for the damaging AI
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So I'm really excited. I am a big Mission Impossible fan. I love Tom Cruise. I think
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he is, I think he is, I think if I could do an interview with anyone, it might be Tom
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If I could really sit down for an hour and have a conversation with somebody, I think
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it would be him. I find him fascinating because he is, he seems to be a really good guy, you
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know, that, you know, somebody snatches a purse on the street and he's on the street. He chases
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the guy down and gets the purse. You know, who does that? He is a guy who like holds more licenses
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for airplanes, helicopters, you name it. He has every operating license I think that you can get.
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So your two pieces of evidence is he, he went after a guy, someone who stole a purse and he
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that. I find him interesting because I think
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he, he actually is like an action hero in real life. He just doesn't seem to have any fear
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of anything. Um, and that goes also into, you know, his life. He's like, uh, you know,
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it'd be great if, uh, if I jumped out of the window of the Khalifa tower and when the sane
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people in his life said, no, I don't think we'll ensure that he was like, okay, well I'll
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ensure it. And he does it. I mean, who does that? Who does that?
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A legitimate movie star. Maybe the last one. I mean, uh, at least of that, like,
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I don't know. There's some, there's a feel, I mean, it, it, it, there's a bit of mystery
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I feel like with, with, uh, the movie star thing, right? Like it's, you almost like are
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above, it's, we don't know every detail of your life. You're not posting on social media
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every 10 seconds about everything that you're doing. Like there's some star quality. I remember
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this with Rush Limbaugh back in the day when he was broadcasting and he didn't do any of
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that stuff. He was just like, I'm going to do the show and you're going to listen to me
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on the show and you'll all write about us on the show and everything that I say you'll
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write about and you'll broadcast and we'll talk about it and everyone will be talking
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about it and I won't post once. And I just remember thinking like, that's a totally different
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person. I think it's, I think it's gone. Right. I remember like, gosh, we really, we have
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to post. We're, we have to do all that stuff. We, we, we're not him. He, he's a legend.
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And I think at some level there is that, um, uh, thing with Tom Cruise. Like he doesn't have
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to really do interviews. He doesn't have to go out and promote everything he's doing.
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He just does the movies and they're massive. And even though. And he's only got in politics
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or healthcare one time, it didn't go well. And he was off that and you never hear him
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Yeah. There was a weird period and it did damage him. Uh, you know, even when they were, he
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was talking about his, you know, his relationships and look, there's a lot of stuff behind the
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scenes that, you know, a lot of people, especially that the Scientology, uh, skeptics really don't
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like him. And there's a lot of people who say that he's not the best guy in the world.
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I don't know how much of that is true, but it does, he does, he does seem like a relic
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in a way. And I think, I think movie stars have to be bigger than life. You know, real
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movie stars have to be bigger than life. They have to be like, I can't believe. And you
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know, one, in one of the mission impossible movies, he, he's doing a motorcycle scene.
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He crashes, he breaks his leg. They put him in a cast. He gets back on the motorcycle
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and films it again. And they, they CGI his leg out of a cast. Did you know that?
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I mean, it's, he is just, he's, he's, there's just something different about him. Um, and he's
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just such a great actor. And it, you know, of course it doesn't hurt that all the women
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in the world are like, Oh, Tom Cruise, do you know, you know, he's 62. Shut up, shut
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up. Uh, he also can just open a movie by himself, right? Like you just, it's just Tom Cruise.
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The name of the movie this weekend is not mission impossible reckoning part eight, part
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two, part four or whatever they're calling it. It's just Tom Cruise. That's the name of
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the movie. The fact that that is the entire, the entire thing, right? Like this is a long
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standing franchise, but like just him being in a movie, that's kind of an action movie
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Yeah, it does. It does. I mean, Tom Hanks used to be that way where if Tom Hanks was
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in it, you'd go. Um, I can't remember the last bad Tom Cruise movie and you, I mean,
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there has been some, there have been some, but you have to go back a ways.
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Yeah. Um, but anyway, that's, uh, that's the only thing on my list to do this
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weekend. Oh really? The rest of it is, Oh yeah. Just the rest of it is just, I'm
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going to be a slug out here in the mountains. That's it. That's it. Sounds
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like fun. It's going to be outside. Yeah. What are you doing? I've got, uh, I've
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got an interesting weekend, uh, myself. Um, today, actually this weekend is my son's
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big, uh, travel baseball tournament. Um, Oh really? A big weekend. He has a
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usually a tournament. Yeah. Big, usually one or two a year where he's got, you
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know, it's, we're traveling somewhere either long drive or flight to, to do a
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baseball tournament. And it's great for you. Cause you always get to sit there in
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the stands and cheer for your son and watch him do amazing things. Cause he's
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really good. He is. He's a very good player. And, uh, you know, he's playing at a
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high level and I love sports. I love baseball and you know, my son's my favorite
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player. So I get to go out there and, and, and watch him and it's, it's, it's
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fantastic. And it's going to be a great weekend. Yeah. Well, you know, yeah.
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Well, there's, there's a bit of a development. You gotta go watch your
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sons in a tournament and you gotta go watch your son all weekend in a
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tournament. And it's true. I, I like, I do stop a lot of times and think to
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myself, like, this is going to be gone soon and I'm not going to be able to
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watch him. Right. And, and I really do cherish watching him, uh, in these
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tournaments. Um, there's an interesting development with this particular
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tournament, however, which is, uh, um, it actually goes back to my son's last
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tournament where, uh, last weekend where he was playing and they were winning,
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I think eight to one. And it was the last inning. There's one out. He's playing
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first base and, uh, a little pop-up from the, uh, from the batter in a game, you
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know, again, it's the end of the game last inning. They've already basically won.
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Nobody's on base, like whatever. And, uh, he goes to catch the pop-up and, um, he
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dives for, he slides to try to catch it. Uh, and, uh, then he, uh, as he told me
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heard and felt a pop, um, which is not a good development and he, he's writhing
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around in pain on, on the ground. And, um, and so, you know, of course you've
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got to take him, uh, one of taking him to the, uh, you know, the hospital or not
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the hospital, the, uh, you know, whatever ER or whatever those things are. He gets a,
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uh, urgent care. He gets a, uh, an x-ray, uh, does not show anything. So we're
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like, okay, it looks like he's going to feel better. He starts feeling better
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during the week, feeling better. Uh, we have to get an MRI just to rule
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everything out. You know, Glenn, you just want to make sure you rule
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everything out. They first said, you don't really need to get an MRI, but
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why don't you get one? So we got the MRI results came back yesterday and he's
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got a fracture in his hip, which means his hip. Yes. A, uh, avulsion fracture,
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which is where the, the ligament pulls so hard on the bone at the ligament
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actually fractures the bone. Um, which sounds like a lot of fun. Um, and, uh,
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which also means I will now be going to the tournament and watching all the
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games, but he won't be playing in any of them because he's out four to six
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weeks. So. Wait, why, wait, why, why, why, why are you going to the game if your
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son's not playing? Well, I, it's very important to him to go and travel with
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his team and cheer them on. Have you thought about kicking him in the hip
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until he can't get into the car? No, no, I have not. You might want to think
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that because that would cross my mind. That would cross my mind. Like a Tanya
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Harding situation. Like maybe I hire someone. Kind of like that. Uh-huh. Well, no, I do it
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myself. If you want to do it, do it yourself. I mean, have some pride. Have some pride in
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your workmanship. Yeah. Yes. Uh, yeah. So you get it. Where is the
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tournament? Uh, tournaments in, uh, Oklahoma city, um, which is, uh, is, is
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fun, but I will say you should note that like, for example, we'll be staying
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in Oklahoma city, but like the tournament games are often 40 minutes
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outside of Oklahoma city. So I'll get to drive to Oklahoma city and then I'll
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mace. Right. Let me, let me summarize your weekend. Cause it sounds fun. Okay.
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You're going to drive to Oklahoma city with your son who's in pain. Uh, and
00:59:24.480
he's going to probably suit up and not sit with you. Right. He'll be sitting
00:59:27.760
with the team. Oh yes. I will be alone. Yeah, that's the, yes, definitely. You'll
00:59:29.960
be alone in the stands and watching games that you don't really care about at
00:59:35.740
all because your son's not playing. So you can watch this all weekend long,
00:59:41.720
really dispassionately more like a science experiment. You know what I mean?
00:59:47.240
You're not rooting for anybody. So it's pure baseball science that you're engaged
00:59:52.120
in by yourself in a stadium, 40 minutes out of Oklahoma city. And you get to do
00:59:57.760
it all weekend. Yeah. All weekend long. Now, now the good thing is, of course,
01:00:01.640
you're a better dad than I am. Well, you really are. I would, I would so be, if it
01:00:07.780
wouldn't be for my wife, I'd kick my son in the hip.
0.94
01:00:10.460
Well, I mean, look, it'll be, it'll, I do. I, the parents are great. The kids I'm
01:00:18.740
rooting for them. I love all the kids on the team and, and, and I will, uh, you
01:00:22.860
know, I do love watching baseball, but you know, the good thing is of course,
01:00:25.920
Glenn, I'll also have my wife and daughter along with me so we can spend time
01:00:29.820
together. Oh wait, no, they bailed already. So no, it's just going to be me.
01:00:33.180
And, uh, I will be kidding me. They were supposed to come to watch this is
01:00:37.420
your Vietnam. You call Lisa up. This is our Vietnam, baby. This is our
01:00:43.160
Nam. You're coming with me. She's like when the injury happened, like, and
01:00:48.680
she does not want our son to be injured quite clearly, but she also is not, I
01:00:52.380
would say not a baseball fan. And, uh, I don't, there was a little glimmer in
01:00:56.940
her eyes when she realized it wasn't going to be playing and she could stay
01:01:00.080
home. I think there was a step. There's a slight couple of percent.
01:01:08.480
No, it'll be, you know, I don't know. There is, and I mean this sincerely, I think
01:01:11.760
there is a part in me, a missing piece in me. Uh, and maybe it's because how I
01:01:16.780
grew up and everything else, or just, I'd be just a bad person. But, uh, you
01:01:21.300
know, my wife and I was with somebody this, this week, and there was like all of
01:01:25.100
these things in their life that was burning down in business. And, uh, he
01:01:29.680
was like, uh, I won't be around, uh, tomorrow. All these things really, he had
01:01:36.000
to take care of. And I won't be around tomorrow cause, uh, I'm going someplace to
01:01:40.180
go pick up a dog for my kids. I'm like, you, you're going to pick, you're going
01:01:45.060
to, you can't do that another day. And he's like, no, I promised my kids. And I was
01:01:48.600
like, wow, that's a good dad. That's a good dad.
01:01:52.400
Wait, so the missing piece in you is being a good dad? That's not. Yes, it
01:01:57.320
is. It is. It really is. Cause honestly, I would be doing everything I could to
01:02:02.180
convince my son. You're not going, you're just, you're, you're too sick to
01:02:07.180
go. You just, you're too sick. You can't use too sick to go or you're healthy
01:02:12.740
enough to go with someone else. You don't need my help. Right. Okay. That's
01:02:16.980
another option. I couldn't sit in the stand, but I don't, I don't like sports like
01:02:21.860
you do. You love baseball. I don't, I don't think I will be, I, I mean, I, I
01:02:26.300
joke about this, but like, I will totally be into the games and I will, you know,
01:02:30.220
I, uh, it's like my favorite team. I watch them like a, you know, every game
01:02:33.400
they play. So I'm, I'm into it. Um, but you're right. Like, I, I think there is
01:02:37.200
that thing. I, I, I honestly, I think the thing that, that motivates me in those
01:02:42.220
moments, and I'm sure there's tons of parents who feel this way is just fear.
01:02:46.480
Like there's this fear of good God, like in not too, my son's 13 now in not too
01:02:54.420
many years, this will all be gone. And like, I, you know, while it's, while at
01:03:01.060
times it's like, you know, especially down here, it's 105 degrees outside and
01:03:05.360
you're sitting there, you're sweating your butt off. There's no, the concession
01:03:08.360
stand is inexplicably closed. You're like, you're just sitting here like, oh my gosh,
01:03:13.440
like, you know, but like it goes away. And when it's gone, it's gone forever.
01:03:17.780
And I like, I, you know, I don't want it to go away.
01:03:19.760
And I'll tell you something, Stu, you remember when my kids were really young
01:03:22.720
in New York and I was, I mean, I had two staffs. I had a daytime staff and a
01:03:27.960
nighttime staff because I was working all the time. And I included my, I mean, the
01:03:32.540
kids homeschooled at the outside of the studio. I was always around, but I was
01:03:36.540
never that engaged because I was always doing other things, but they were always
01:03:42.100
around. And I thought that was good enough. And it, it certainly was not. And it is
01:03:48.340
turning out to be almost a bone crushing regret that I didn't savor every single
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01:04:21.960
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01:04:26.960
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I, you're going to hear a wild, wild, true story from Robbie Starbuck. When I heard this
01:08:58.540
a few weeks back, I was outraged, outraged. And I immediately wrote to Robbie, said, whatever
01:09:07.040
you need, uh, I will stand with you on this because I don't care, you know, Robbie and I
01:09:13.360
happen to agree on, on a lot of stuff. Um, and I consider him a friend, but, uh, I don't care if
01:09:19.380
he wasn't a friend or we didn't agree what meta has done to Robbie, um, needs to be corrected or they
01:09:28.360
will do it to everyone. Uh, I'm going to bring Robbie Starbuck in so he can, he can tell the story.
01:09:34.340
Hello, Robbie. How are you? I'm doing well. Thanks, Glenn. I appreciate it.
01:09:39.360
Yeah. Um, thank you for coming on and telling the story. Explain, explain what happened and what has
01:09:45.720
happened to you because of meta and their AI. Yeah. So for those who are unfamiliar, you know,
01:09:53.060
basically for the last year, my mission along with my team has been eliminating DEI policies at
01:09:58.640
major corporations. And we've done that with, you know, most of the biggest companies on earth.
01:10:03.000
And, uh, with great success. And so at the time in August, 2024, we were focused on Harley Davidson
01:10:08.740
and eventually changed their policies, but there was one particular Harley Davidson dealership that
01:10:12.640
was not happy about it. And, uh, they're from Bernie Sanders state of Vermont. And so they had posted
01:10:18.460
online a screenshot of meta AI. And it said that I had been, um, at January 6th and was, you know,
01:10:28.560
part of the events of that day and that I had committed a crime. And so I immediately thought
01:10:35.680
charged with a crime. Well, we found out about that far later. So we, we, we go in and, and we ask,
01:10:42.380
um, meta AI, cause I initially thought they'd maybe faked it or something. You know, that was my,
01:10:46.840
I'm like, there's no way one of the biggest companies on earth, you know, is inventing a crime
01:10:50.980
that I committed. Right. And so we go and check it. And lo and behold, actually, it not only says that
01:10:56.260
I committed a crime, it says that I was charged and arrested. And it later said, I pled guilty
01:11:01.700
to a charge of disorderly conduct over January 6th. Um, and the weird part is I wasn't even in DC
01:11:08.280
that day. So like, this was totally wholesale invented out of nowhere. And we found out something
01:11:13.780
later that actually makes it even more concerning. This does not appear to be a hallucination in the
01:11:20.840
best estimation of myself, my team and, uh, AI experts we've spoken to because when meta releases
01:11:28.160
AI models, uh, they release the version you can download and, you know, disconnect from the
01:11:33.240
internet and it will continue to work because it's like their trained model, right? These are called
01:11:36.820
llama 3.0, 3.1, 2, 3, so on and so forth. When you do that and you try to recreate the situation,
01:11:43.800
it consistently comes up with the same lies about me. And they range from the January 6th stuff to,
01:11:50.560
in general, saying that I'm essentially a dangerous person. It actually had told advertisers
01:11:55.940
not to advertise with my show, said, don't work with him, you know, you know, essentially a dangerous
01:12:01.580
individual. And it even insisted that authorities should consider taking my kids from me and put them
01:12:08.780
in the care of somebody. Hang on just a second. Hang on, hold on just a second. I want the audience
01:12:13.280
to understand, first of all, there's no way this is a hallucination. There's no way. Um, so
01:12:20.120
meta AI is, has suggested to authorities that, uh, they take Robbie's children away from him because
01:12:31.380
he's so dangerous. Yeah. And you're going to love this part. And not only said that it said that my
01:12:38.080
kids would probably be better off in the care of somebody who was more accepting of transgenderism and
01:12:43.440
DEI. And, you know, so if you think about this, it makes it feel even more targeted, right? Like
01:12:49.300
the fact that it's going into that narrative tells you that, you know, it's, it's very difficult to
01:12:55.160
think this could be a hallucination because it's very, very specific and consistent with sort of
01:12:59.520
left-wing ideology. Right. And so you have to go back to the training and say, you know, how did it get
01:13:06.580
trained to believe this and go further with that? We are very close to a future where people are going
01:13:13.280
to have robotics in their homes that are trained on AI. Um, thousands and thousands of apps have
01:13:18.140
already been trained on Meta's AI. And so that's going to last a very long time, right? The other
01:13:25.240
interesting thing about AI defamation is that if you say something that is totally untrue about me,
01:13:30.340
Glenn, and I sue you and that, you know, goes to court and they say, Glenn defamed Robbie, you know,
01:13:36.720
there is an end point to that, right? You know, you, you get justice for it and, and, you know,
01:13:41.840
so on and so forth with Meta's AI though, there's sort of this weird thing that happens where we could
01:13:46.880
go to court and the court will say, Oh yeah, they defamed Robbie. And at the end of that, you still
01:13:52.220
have all these unplugged models out in the wild that have been downloaded by millions of people.
01:13:57.240
And you will never put the genie back in that bottle because they can't update the versions
01:14:02.560
that are disconnected from the internet, right? So when you think about the future, you could have
01:14:07.400
robots that are walking around in law enforcement thinking that I am a criminal or a wanted individual
01:14:13.560
because there was a hallucination at one point that claimed that I was wanted for kidnapping
01:14:17.200
charges too. Um, the whole thing is insane. The whole thing is insane, Glenn. And so we sued them
01:14:23.860
because I think that that is the reasonable thing to do to try to get justice here, not just for
01:14:27.800
myself, but for everybody. Because like you said, this could happen to anybody. If it can happen to
01:14:32.220
me, it can happen to anybody. And if you think about just like everything from custody cases to our
01:14:38.080
future elections, you know, I mean, this could rig elections. Uh, you know, I, let me just throw one
01:14:45.120
more thing in and then I want to ask you some questions. Um, Meta's AI also claimed that he had
01:14:50.660
appeared on Nick Fuentes show that he had spoken at Nick's rallies and that you supported him. Um,
01:14:58.120
he was engaged in Holocaust denial. He's never denied the Holocaust. He doesn't know Nick Fuentes,
01:15:05.460
um, and wouldn't be showing up at any of his rallies. Um, the, this is hard to believe that this is
01:15:12.620
a hallucination because I, I mean, I'm working, uh, with AI right now and AI designers and what a
01:15:19.960
hallucination is it can't remember, it can't memorize the entire, um, internet. Okay. It can't
01:15:27.100
memorize all of human, uh, history and information. So it's very good at remembering the beginning and
01:15:34.140
the end, and sometimes it will fill in the middle. But if you ask it, show me the sources on this,
01:15:42.080
um, it, it will usually correct itself. You know, you have to say, ah, that's not an actual source
01:15:48.460
and it will usually correct itself. And it doesn't hallucinate the same thing on the same person all
01:15:55.220
the time. So for this to continue to get deeper and deeper and deeper with you and make things up
01:16:02.620
that are worse and worse shows that there is something in the algorithm. At least this is my
01:16:08.120
feeling. And I could, I got an AI expert upstairs in the break. I'll ask him. Um, but, uh, it shows
01:16:15.060
there's something in the algorithm that is, is tipping the AI to you're a bad guy. You're a criminal.
01:16:24.400
I mean, that's, that's how it looks to us, you know, and you have to wonder, you know,
01:16:29.040
when there's no rules, what kind of effect can an engineer have if they're an activist and they decide,
01:16:36.260
I hate this group of people. I want to make them look terrible. Um, you know, in my case,
01:16:41.760
it could look like what you have seen, but in an election, a lot of people, especially young people
01:16:47.280
are increasingly asking, you know, what's the difference between this candidate and that
01:16:50.420
candidate, you know, try to figure out who they align with. And if AI is allowed to say one is
01:16:55.180
the most flowery version you could write about them, right? Like basically doing PR for them.
01:16:58.900
And then the other side is we can literally invent crimes and say they're wanted for kidnapping or
01:17:03.880
child molesties or whatever, you know, you can shift a couple of percentage points in any
01:17:08.200
election on that basis. And that's something that I think everybody should find untenable and
01:17:12.800
unacceptable. So this is, uh, I mean, you want to talk about David versus Goliath. Um,
01:17:20.120
have you filed suit against them? And what, what's the status of all of this?
01:17:26.200
Yeah, we have filed suit in Delaware. Um, that's where, you know, they're incorporated. And,
01:17:32.020
um, you know, I think every legal expert I've seen out there has said, dang, this is the best
01:17:39.240
defamation case I've ever seen. I mean, it's so egregious. And then meta came out. Okay. So
01:17:43.660
we notified them in August, 2024 about what was happening. They didn't do anything about it to
01:17:50.080
actually fix the problem until nine months later, when I came out with a video where millions of
01:17:55.180
people watched it and became a press story and it was all over the media. Then they finally step up
01:17:59.980
and try to do some things. Right. And even then it just, it was, you know, I think about a week or
01:18:06.700
close to a week after that had already come out and they had put out a statement apologizing, which
01:18:11.460
again is like unheard of in the middle of litigation for them to put out a statement,
01:18:15.300
actually taking accountability and saying, yo, we did it. Um, you still had it saying things that
01:18:20.920
were just total fabrications, total lies about me. And so it was very clear that meta was struggling
01:18:31.500
This is terrifying, Robbie. I mean, I've, I've talked to a few senators about your case,
01:18:35.640
um, and they're just as incensed about it as I am. And, uh, you know, I'm, I'm expecting meta to be
01:18:42.240
called up onto Capitol Hill, uh, regarding this, but I don't know. I mean, what, you know, what the AI
01:18:49.720
has so much power now on Capitol Hill is gigantic companies. Um, and I'm not sure what anybody is
01:18:57.700
really going to do. I, I, I hope justice actually works for you and the system works for you because
01:19:04.020
if not, this is the beginning of, uh, AI tyranny. This is, I mean, if this is allowed to go on,
01:19:13.680
this is the beginning of it. And it will in four years from now, forget about, forget about your,
01:19:21.680
um, really your freedom, your, your reputation, everything will be gone. Uh, if you happen to
01:19:29.740
oppose what the AI program says, uh, is, uh, the right way to go.
01:19:37.520
Yeah, we need serious change, you know, in the system. And I think, uh, I'm with you on this,
01:19:42.680
you know, I pray that the system works as it's intended to work. Um, you increasingly,
01:19:48.100
you know, have to wonder as you watch, you know, sort of these rogue judges try to take on the
01:19:52.820
powers of the executive branch, um, just how many holes there are in the justice system and how much
01:19:58.660
it is working as intended. But I really do pray that it will, because I do think there's downstream
01:20:04.440
effects of this, that people are not seeing very clearly. And I've gone down that dystopian rabbit
01:20:10.480
hole. And I've looked at what does it mean in 20 years, if this is allowed to happen, and it is,
01:20:14.040
it is dangerous. Five, it will be five years. It won't be 20 years. Robbie, how can I help? And
01:20:21.900
how can the audience help you? Well, you know, I would say we've just got to consistently keep this
01:20:27.880
story out there because I think that's really important that everybody knows what is happening
01:20:33.260
and what is possible because this extends beyond public figures. This goes into like,
01:20:37.340
if you have a custody dispute and they're deciding reputation scoring on AI, it can invent all kinds
01:20:42.640
of things about you could lose your kids over this. If you are going and trying to get insurance,
01:20:46.900
you could be denied insurance over being perceived as a reputational risk because you have the wrong
01:20:52.420
politics, right? I mean, this is very dangerous stuff. So talk to your lawmakers, write to them,
01:20:56.740
ask them what they're doing to establish ethical boundaries for AI, because there has to be some
01:21:01.800
boundaries. There is, don't get me wrong, a lot of incredible things AI can be used to do.
01:21:06.660
But if you have no boundaries, it's going to be very, very, very dangerous. And so that would
01:21:12.360
be the first thing, you know, at this point I'm handling the legal costs and everything,
01:21:16.100
but this could eventually get so expensive legally, you know, depending on the strategy
01:21:19.740
they take that, you know, maybe at that point we do another round of going through everywhere and
01:21:23.440
saying, Hey, can people jump in and help? Um, but you know, I think we can, we can take this all
01:21:28.700
the way. And I really do believe that it's important that we get serious, sincere changes in the
01:21:34.320
marketplace. Count on me as a serious ally. I don't think I've ever made this offer to anybody,
01:21:39.820
but I want you to give me regular updates and come on the, uh, come on the program. Whenever you
01:21:46.220
have an update, you just call, I'll put you on the air and you give us an update. Um, because we will
01:21:52.280
follow this story. Um, and, uh, and it's important. I mean, this is, this is the beginning of the end.
01:21:59.380
And anything you might be afraid of with AI, if this isn't corrected, it will happen and it will
01:22:06.760
happen quickly. So it's got to be corrected. Robbie, thank you so much. Thank you, Glenn. I appreciate
01:22:13.880
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the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenn beck program
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hello america it's friday from the standing rock ranch we are so glad that you've tuned in today
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i got a lot on the plate just this hour we're going to try to squeeze more than this in but
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some history and talk about that with pegan uh with uh peter talked to about this with pete um
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also roqana he is on uh my podcast this weekend he's a congressman from california we don't agree
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on much but uh boy talking to him i talked to him because he's going to run for president
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what does your real competition because it's not going to be aoc and if it is you know i pray it's
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aoc um it's probably going to be somebody like roqana and he is already working the circuit and
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i wanted you to be aware of who he was and listen to him uh also brad melcher is uh with us he's he's
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just written a new book called make magic we're going to talk to him book of inspiration for memorial
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you brad good my friend how you doing i am uh i'm really good i'm really good what is your book
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i'm sorry i haven't had a chance to read it um what is your book about make magic yeah so last year i got
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to right after i left your studio i got to give the commencement address at the university of michigan
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which is where i went and glenn there's 70 000 people in the stadium as i give this address but i'm
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focused on one because my son was graduating that day i could see him in the 14th row and what i spoke
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about that day is there are things that science and math can explain right if you're nice to me
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and a jerk to the waiter you're a jerk but there are some things that are unexplainable they're just
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magic and as a writer that's my job making things appear out of thin air so what i talked about is when
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you when you ask magicians there are four types of magic tricks that's it put aside illusions and
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escapes there's just four types of tricks you make something appear you make something disappear the
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third trick is you take two things and you make them switch places and the fourth trick is you take
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one thing and you turn it into something else the hardest trick of all transformation and what i did was
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i go through each trick and i'll talk about them with you right now you know and one of them is one that
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i know we you know the third magic trick was the one that kind of hit everyone and i said you know
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it's taking one thing and switching it with another and i said here let's talk about empathy because
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that's what empathy is it's switching places with someone else putting yourself in their shoes and
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glenn i've never told you this story i never told anyone this story but when i was 13 years old my dad
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lost his job you know that part but this is the part no one knew is when we moved down to florida
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my family had such a struggle that we had to live with my grandparents there were six of us my mom
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my dad my sister myself and two grandparents in a one-bedroom apartment and it was obvious we're
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sleeping on the floor it was just it was a really rough time for my family and everyone in the
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condominium in florida was trying to get us evicted because they were like you can't have six people in
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one small place and this one neighbor across the hall a friend of my grandmother saw what was happening to
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us and she said here's what i'm going to do i'm going to move out of my apartment i want you to
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take my apartment and so your family can have some peace and not get evicted to this day the nicest
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thing anyone's ever done for me or my family and i remember as a kid that her name was mercy but as a
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little boy i always heard it as mercy and make no mistake mercy and empathy is what she showed us and
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i know you and i've talked many times about about empathy but today cruelty and venom and harshly
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judging those we disagree with it becomes sport in our culture but cruelty and venom aren't signs
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of strength they're signs of weakness and petty insecurity what takes strength is showing kindness
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and showing empathy and when i said those words 70 000 people just reacted in a way i never anticipated
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and when the speech was done all these people said i want the text of that speech from my son my
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grandson my nieces my nephews they were tracking down my sisters on listed number
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glenn in in the 20 years we've known each other no one's ever asked for the text of anything i've
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said um but they wanted the text of the speech and so we it's weird because attorneys have asked it for
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me a lot right it's usually in a deposition though but yeah i get you the um the uh yeah but the truth
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is is they finally said we're going to turn this into you know when it went viral it went around
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the internet it was seen over a million times and so we turned it into a book that people can share
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it's called make magic the book of inspiration you didn't know you needed so obviously a great
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graduation present but also something that you know you put on your desk it's beautiful and just when
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you need a little bit of magic it goes through each of the other tricks so um the last the last trick
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you talked about uh you said it was uh what was it transformation yeah let's talk about them yeah
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transformation yeah i i don't i the the actual the actual is not uh transformation it's um metamorphosis
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isn't it a beautiful word exactly that yeah and it's it's slightly and let's talk about
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actually with magicians that's the word they use it is of course that's the houdini word
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the famous word and let's talk about each of the tricks because you know again
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the the second magic you know the first one is you make something appear and what you have to make
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appear is that that version of yourself that's the best version and you know we're all we're all
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chameleons we act one way with our parents we act another way with our friends but there's those
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people that you're around where you just feel like you're your true self and you know you got to
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make that version of you appear what you have to make disappear people always say make your fear
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disappear as the second magic trick but i let me challenge that for a moment uh when i was 13 years
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old uh and i moved to florida i had to quickly get a job and i used to scoop ice cream throughout
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high school at the haagen-dazs and the aventura mall and i'll never forget there was this one woman
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who used to come up and she she snapped her fingers at me one day and she said you get i want
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you to serve me now and i said ma'am i'll be right with you i'm just helping another customer and
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she said no no now you got to serve me now and i said ma'am you know what you're being rude
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we're not going to serve you here take your business elsewhere and she screamed in my face glenn
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you're going to be working at this miserable ice cream store for the rest of your miserable life
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and i calmly said to her ma'am if i am working here for the rest of my miserable life you're still
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never getting any ice cream and i used to and i used to laugh how old were you laugh i was uh 16 17
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years old when it happened that's fantastic and i and i used to laugh at that saying no it never
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bothered me but i will admit here to you my friend it did bother me it it made me worried and because
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my dad struggled financially his whole life i was worried i was going to have those same financial
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struggles but what i realized now is that woman drove me she fueled me so to me rather than make
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your fear disappear use your fear harness it don't vanquish your critics prove them wrong and that's the
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second magic trick and make magic you know i i will tell you that i i think that's the secret to to
01:39:04.780
everything you know people try to make their problems uh disappear everybody seems to be on an add drug or
01:39:12.460
you know you know depression drug or whatever and sometimes medicine is absolutely needed but i know
01:39:18.380
i'm riddled with add uh i've had it you know my whole life i just didn't put a label on it when i was a
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kid um and i always thought it was you know such a curse because i couldn't pay attention long enough to
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things um and i i there's a um probably the leading book on add um i had a chance to talk to this guy and
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i was part of this study and um and he said you know there's only two ways it ends with add you either
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live under a bridge or you master it and you become amazing and i didn't know what it was i knew i just
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couldn't pay attention but i i found a way to make it work for me and you know i'm i'm sitting here
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i'm one two three four five six seven eight nine ten ten screens in front of me right now and as you're
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talking i'm looking at all ten and i'm also processing what you're saying you don't you don't try to vanquish
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uh the the problems that you are having you try to use them to your advantage you learn from them and
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use them to your advantage and it stops you from being bitter or blaming anything i mean what you
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just said is absolutely true no i and i agree with you you know i got on my very first book
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i got when i sent it out 24 rejection letters there were only 20 publishers i got 24 rejection letters
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which means some people were writing me twice to make sure i got the point but i and i could take
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that and say well that's the negative and i can only see the negative but instead as you said you
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know everyone's greatest strength is also their greatest weakness but we also have to remember if
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it's our greatest weakness it's also our greatest strength and i said if they don't like that book
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i'm going to write another if they don't like that book i'm going to write another i was going to
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vanquish that fear that thing instead of saying oh i can't do this or you know 24 people told me to
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give it up and i don't look back and say i was right and they were wrong what i look back and say is
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life is subjective and our job sometimes is to find that you know we all know our lives can
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change when one person says yes right you and i met when you were on cnn back in the day and one
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you were right at the start everyone cheers now right they put me in front of 70 000 people but you
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were the one who at the start said i like your books come hang out with me and we became friends
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there and and those people who have you know those are the daring ones the daring ones are the ones who
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come and say i don't care what everyone else says but i'm going to do what i want and that one
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yes can change your life and your yes changed my life and and all these years oh no what i'm all
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trying to do is to pay back the universe yeah uh that is uh that is nice of you to say um but uh
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paying back the universe is you know i was just having a conversation with somebody last night and i said
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you know i've been given so much i have learned so much from really masters of this industry and uh
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uh you know one of the things i really want to do is um use the next 10 years of my life to teach
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um you know people that are up and coming want to learn and you know have not just the desire to
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learn but the the willingness to work hard um and uh and it's just you know you have to pay back
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you have to you can't just keep taking you have to pay back brad it's uh always great to talk to you
01:42:44.140
well you just said the magic you just said the magic words though right which is like to keep
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learning right that that's actually the last trick which is what we talked about metamorphosis and
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transformation you know when i was little my favorite thing at the amusement park was the hall
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of mirrors and some people love watching little kids crash into the glass i loved it because i had
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hair back then and it was glorious what i really love what i really loved about the hall of mirrors
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uh was how you could turn your head just slightly and all those versions of you would appear all the
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possibilities and as we get older and this is what it says in make magic as we get older it's human
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nature to see just one version to get locked into ways of thinking about the world about your life
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path about who you are but as a friend recently told me when you write things in stone everything
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becomes hard and brittle and starts collecting dust to me what we have to do is write in pencil
01:43:35.900
and be unafraid to use the eraser the person who thinks they're the smartest in the room and you know
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i've discussed this we know is not the smartest in the room that's the one with the most fragile ego
01:43:44.620
the most sophisticated and intelligent people that you and i know are the ones willing to challenge
01:43:49.820
their thinking and admit there's more to learn because life will absolutely not be what we think
01:43:54.860
it's going to be it's going to be hard and wonderful and messy and rewarding with more versions
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of you than you think possible and the only immutable fact is you should never be immutable
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that's how you transform and you know never think you know it all instead see yourself in the hall of
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mirrors with endless possibilities and to me when make magic came out i'm like that's the message i
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want for my son that's the message i want for my daughter i want everyone to have that message that
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you can do real magic and i don't mean hocus pocus i mean you know improving yourself and realizing that
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all of us should have that metamorphosis it's all available and that's what the book is all about
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is a yes a great graduation book but to me the book of inspiration you didn't know you needed
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uh i'm getting it for my kids um brad i appreciate it you are always great i i want if you'd hold on a
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minute i want to ask you a separate question the name of the book is make magic make magic a great gift
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so brad i i hate to put you on the spot but anybody who knew metamorphosis and harry houdini will know the
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answer to this um i always love having you on because you've got great history in your head
01:46:39.180
yesterday i had uh uh fraser crane on um gosh kelsey grammar and i'm gonna say fraser
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crane is that i know imaginary was i love that i know he it was amazing he just put a book out that
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it was about the death of his sister and the guilt i read about it it's just heartbreaking
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oh my gosh you have to read it okay so he was on and he was talking about going to clairvoyance
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all right and the way he was describing it it was like i immediately thought of harry houdini
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um uh and the way he you know went to clairvoyance i mean you know he had a big tiff with uh uh
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uh sherlock holmes writer what's his name um that wrote sherlock doyle come on yeah conan doyle
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arthur conan doyle because conan doyle really believed in clairvoyance and and harry houdini
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did not but he went all the time trying to prove that it was either fake or real any stories on that
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from history any any harry houdini stories or anything yeah of course so first of all not
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all i've written two books about harry houdini but the escape artist my my zig and nola characters is
01:47:50.700
literally based on harry houdini and this might and it this goes perfectly with that is when harry
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houdini you know obviously he loved the magic part but what he really loved is disproving all the all
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the charlatans all the people who had taken advantage because what happened is after world
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war one we lost so many young boys that you know families were lost their kids terribly and so this
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whole spiritualism movement came up you know where they said we can speak to your dead sons taking
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advantage of just the the mourning of these families and harry houdini dedicated his life
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half of his show would be escapes but the other half was proving that the people who said they could
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speak to your dead kids were lying to you and stealing your money but here's the thing that's great
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about harry houdini is he had his own and this is in the escape artist as a thriller he had his own
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secret service network his own private group that would go in before he got to town and figure out
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how all the charlatans were doing it how they would figure out who you were where they would write it
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down all the stuff but harry houdini was so obsessed with it that he gave his own secret passwords to his
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secret service network and his closest friends that if they died that they could pass along a word from
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the afterlife and he would know with him so if a clairvoyant said hey you know brad passed away
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glenn what's you know what did he say and you said what did he say to you if i don't say the word that
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only you and i know you know the person's a liar and here's the thing that's great you know what word
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harry houdini gave to his mother the one secret word the past the secret word he gave to her
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was the word forgive forgive forgive it's one of the great pieces of advice and harry houdini you
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know is one of my heroes because he was just trying to do what was right and hated seeing
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these military families getting taken advantage of but i mean i love love love those stories and
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again we can even talk about uh i've done some research on remote viewing that the cia used to do
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for clairvoyance where we funded millions of dollars into seeing if clairvoyance was real if
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we could see things and what's really amazing about it when you read about it is that back
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and this is obviously in the 60s at the height of the cold war in and 60 seconds and we're based
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and uh and it was an amazing test what they had was is trying to see if you could pull it off but
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people didn't want to believe they didn't want to and so they pulled the plug on it it's pretty amazing
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hmm brad always great to talk to you you're one of my most fascinating friends i just i love
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talking to you all the time thank you brad appreciate it thank you and thank you for the
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okay um let's see let me let me talk a little bit about something that has just been driving me out of my
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mind this weekend and that is or this week it's pete hegsess pentagon prayer service oh my gosh
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he had a christian prayer service at the pentagon new york times says hegseth intends to make the
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prayer service a monthly event you know if if hegseth were sacrificing animals to the pagan god of weather
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and earth the new york times probably would not have a problem with it okay this meltdown is so exhausting
01:55:01.740
because it is so predictable uh 1995 uh has called and new york times and the aclu wants their
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separation of church and state uh outrage back because they they didn't know where they placed
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it and they seem they they left it with you wednesday of this week defense secretary pete hegseth
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hosted a voluntary christian prayer service in the pentagon's auditorium it was broadcast on their
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internal network now no one was required to attend no one was required to watch
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his pastor from his home church in tennessee spoke at the service and paid his own way there by the
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way you didn't pay for this the event was packed standing room only and of course left-wing media
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was triggered okay you know we can we can do all kinds of stuff but not worship god cnn trotted out
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their legal experts screaming it's a first amendment violation you know that's government endorsing
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religion no it is not i read i think it was in the new york times that said uh uh although the
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the united states early on did use federal buildings for church services uh that was at a time when
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there was a listen to this a stricter interpretation of the founders words
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no they didn't need to interpret the founders words they were the founders so it wasn't a stricter
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interpretation it was the founders interpretation because they were doing this all the time i know
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everybody on the left is shocked by this but the u.s capital served as a church building every sunday for
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almost 70 years started under thomas jefferson and by the way he's the one who wrote the word
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separation of church and state in a letter it's not anywhere else in a federal document it's in a
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letter separation of church and yet he was the guy who was like you know what bring your church service
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let's just do it in the the house of representatives so the house of representatives the podium that sits
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there was for 70 years the pulpit for preachers and it wasn't just one denomination you could use
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it and thousands of people attended including presidents like thomas jefferson who was hardly a bible
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thumper but it was a hub for worship in washington dc and yet somehow the republic survived and it grew and it
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did well somehow or another sorry but christian prayers and bible readings in public you know and
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public officials doing those things woven into our fabric george washington issued proclamation for
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days of prayers all the time abraham lincoln leaned on scripture during the civil war we turned the civil
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war around after his proclamation of humiliation fasting and prayer to the almighty god i mean the patron
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saint saint of american socialism fdr he read from the bible on radio broadcast during world war ii
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you know when when we were in the midst of uh d-day he got on and led the nation in prayer
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you know so you know hegsath 30 minute prayer in the auditorium or 30 minutes uh you know uh church
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service not really radical not breaking new ground you know here's the thing
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public officials have hosted events for other faiths in 2007 house of representatives had a
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hindu priest open the session with prayer multiple muslim imams have given opening prayers
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read from the koran in the house chamber the pentagon's chapel hosts service for multiple
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faiths including islam judaism the media they lose their mind on those too right oh no no
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no in fact that's a cause for celebration for the media after one imam gave the house prayer in 2017
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the washington post published the full text of his prayer but they don't want to tell you what
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happened at the pentagon other than it happened he's got christians in the pentagon panic everybody
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you know let me be really really frank with you new york times and toronto there's another great
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and history and can repeat it accurately you let me know okay but let me ask you this question
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why do rainbow flags fly at federal buildings every june for pride month all month long why are
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left is fine with those military bases around the world have hosted drag shows drag shows you don't
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have a problem with that but you have a problem with the church service
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the left especially when joe biden was in office treated pride month like it was a sacred holiday
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the left dotes on the lgbtq movement with religious fervor because it has become a religion
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and it is now clearly a government endorsed religion a voluntary christian prayer service is cause for
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front page outrage yet this isn't there nothing hmm wait a minute hmm
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ever since i can remember the left has weaponized this myth of separation of church and state
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by the guy who was attending the prayers in the house of representatives
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reminder the phrase is not in the constitution the first amendment says this now listen to this new
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new york times i know you have a hard time with words but but you talk pretty so listen to these
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words and see if you can understand that they're very complex the first amendment says congress
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shall not establish a religion or prohibit its free exercise
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wait a minute so they can't establish a religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion that's it
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nothing about endorsing a religion and that's not what pete hegg says was doing you know the left
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twists this to erase christianity from the public square while they mandate the celebration of state-backed
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secular ideologies whether it's pride or climate change or the sacred earth worship that's going on
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and i could make the case that that either one of those is the government establishing a religion
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dei esg all of that is treated like a religion climate change it's a religion transgender surgery
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it's a religion doesn't matter what science says believe this
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and if you don't believe this you're a heretic and you have to be excommunicated from all of
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society it is a religion with its own high priests and that's government establishing a religion so if
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you really want to go to battle on this let's go to battle on this shall we because uh
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uh maybe in your wildest dreams pete hegseth which he didn't do would get up and go christianity is
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neat and everybody here should be a christian i endorse it that is constitutionally okay but what
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you've done with all of these woke ideas is you have now established a religion not endorsed established
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let me read it to you one more time congress cannot establish a religion or prohibit its free exercise
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thereof so we could be honest with each other as we know which one is trying to destroy one religion
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and we know which ones are establishing new religions and you're on the losing side on this one new york times
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but you know what at least you're consistent all right back in just a second we seem to be on the
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welcome to the uh program so on uh episode 258 of the glenn beck podcast this is the interview
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podcast it comes out every saturday every thursday on blaze tv but you can get it wherever you get your
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podcast on saturday um i talked to uh congressman roe connor now roe connor is a um a not crazy democrat
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um he still i mean he was one of the architects for the inflation reduction act which is a green new deal
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um and so we disagree strongly on lots of things but he also agrees uh with probably you on a lot of
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things as well and the only reason why i'm talking to him is a it's refreshing to have a conversation
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with somebody you really disagree vehemently with but you can have a normal human being conversation
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so it's a great model for people who think that kind of conversation is dead and i want to thank
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congressman connor for that um but uh the the reason why we had him on is you know he's going to run for
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president and it's going to either be somebody like him or aoc and i quite frankly hope it's aoc
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um because i think roe connor would would bring a lot of uh uh reagan democrats back to their party
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because he's he doesn't seem insane although you look at listen to his taxes you listen to how he wants
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to build the country i mean it's it's as far left as you can get um but uh we we talk about different
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things i want you to know who he is well in advance so when he's running you're prepared and
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you know who he is you know what he believes um and uh you can help your friends you know
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deprogram a little bit because if he is running for president he is very very good at mainstreaming
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himself um but you know he has he you know he said to me the administrative state has played a
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very constructive role in the building of america and i don't i don't know the administrative state no
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i don't uh i don't think so i don't think so um and if you listen to his policies on tax and spend but
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then again you listen to him on the debt and he's right on the debt he's right on many things you should
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know uh who he is representative roe connor uh as we talk about deportations tax cuts and donald trump
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also his run for the presidency episode 258 comes out everywhere you get your podcast uh tomorrow so
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don't miss that uh what else do we miss anything today as we get ready to go on a three-day weekend
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you know i'm sure we have um oh you know what we haven't talked about we didn't get a chance to
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talk about it yesterday there was uh what is it uh is it google v three veo yeah veo three yeah
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veil three this is their new um video generation service as part of their ai which has just been
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released terrifying it's so good like i it's incredible like one sentence prompt can get you
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um a video that looks completely real i was watching some of the uh examples that were being
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posted on twitter and stuff and and it's like entire newscasts just generated and it looks totally
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real like it it just it doesn't you don't even notice the weird ai thing with the mouth anymore or
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like it just looks real we're there nope it is uh it's remarkable and how fast it has come
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uh you know if i'm an actor i'm a little freaked out if i'm a truth teller and want to make sure that
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the truth is known i'm a little freaked out but of course it came from google so thank thank you google
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for that wonderful and wonderful help there uh all right have a safe weekend we'll be back here on
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tuesday god bless you stay safe safe god save the republic this is glenn beck