The Most DISTURBING Truth About the Lab-Leak Theory | Guest: Tina Mulally | 2⧸28⧸23
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Glenn Blumbergen explains why you should be prepared for a nuclear attack on the West and why you need to prepare for the worst. Glenn Blumden is a former KGB agent who served as the head of counter-espionage operations in the Soviet Union and served as head of the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO).
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and enlightenment this is the glenn back program oh hello america oh i've got some things to share
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first of all janet yellen was in kiev that great everybody's going to ukraine a country best known
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for chernobyl and money laundering fantastic and we're going to be with ukraine for as long as it
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takes well that's kind of a problem with for people like uh putin i'm going to put this into
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perspective and i'm going to give you the actual facts on what they're saying and what it all means
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i think you might uh have your eyes opened a little bit on what we are facing we begin there
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in 60 seconds sometimes you get into the ring and just you know life knocks you down round after
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round and pretty soon you're like mick got me coming and you want your eyes cut and that never
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works out well and the pain goes on and on and on until you face the russian and then your body is
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just so inflamed that you need relief factor i know i know life rarely takes you into the ring with a big
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relief factor dot com okay uh dmitry medvedev you remember him right he's the former russian president
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then became the prime minister uh and uh medvedev came out yesterday and uh said hey there's a real
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nuclear threat if the u.s continues to supply arms to ukraine uh he wrote an op-ed piece in the state-run
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newspaper second time now in three weeks he has and vladimir putin has invoked the nuclear option
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in an effort to deter the u.s-led nato alliance from arming ukraine medvedev who was president between
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uh 2008 and 2012 currently serves as the deputy chairman of the powerful security council of
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russia dangled the prospects of talks while demanding shipments of arms to ukraine be halted
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immediately now he's echoing the words that were uttered sunday by putin he wrote any existential
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threat to russia would not be decided on the front in ukraine but would spiral into an existential threat
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to all of human civilization we do not need a world without russia now most people who are not paying
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attention and i mean politicians do not know what that phrase means we do not need a world without
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russia let me tell you what putin said over the weekend the u.s and its nato allies want to inflict
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a strategic defeat on us the aim is to make our people suffer how can we ignore their nuclear capabilities
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in these conditions they've tried to reshape the world exclusively on their terms we have no choice
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but to react if washington gets its way russia will be divided into moscow the urals and other disparate
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regions it would be a world without russia okay world without russia we don't need a world without russia
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this is a very important phrase now medvedad went on to say the threat against russia is an existential
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threat to all civilization as we don't need a world without russia our enemies are doing just that not
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wanting to understand that their goals obviously lead to a total fiasco because everyone loses a collapse
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an apocalypse when the former life will have to be forgotten for centuries until the rubble ceases to
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emit radiation okay that's pretty strong but you don't know the half of it i want to take you um
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i want to take you to what that phrase means and then i'm going to pick it up with the rest
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of what uh medvedev said but to understand this you have to first understand the origin of that phrase
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i have for a long time read everything i can on uh dugan alexander dugan really bad guy been telling
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you that for a long time he's a quote traditionalist um but that's a capital t traditionalist this is a
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this is something that he is using to further his goals and i think you will understand his goals
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there's an award-winning journalist um in moscow that has um has been speaking out against dugan
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and i want to just read something that has been translated into english that was written about him
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on dugan and he's he's warning people people are um dismissing him as a petty fraudster interested in
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nothing but money the consensus is also that dugan is a windbag who excites only western political
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scientists a few half-witted and certain bohemians who've snorted their brains out but i warn
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we shouldn't underestimate his influence no matter how crazy we find his ideas especially because those
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ideas tend to become reality i remember accidentally attending a lecture by dugan on angelic entities in
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the late 90s it was an unbearable exercise in transcendental sophistry dealing mainly with the image
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of lucifer the fallen angel there were about 20 people of indeterminate age and gender in the auditorium
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and i thought at the time that perhaps they too were fallen angelic entities who have come to listen to a
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lecture about themselves then in the uh he says mid noughties meaning in you know in the zeros i ran into
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uh at a gig uh at a gig at the akira club he dearly loved english apocalyptic folk music for its commitment
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to nazi satanism his daughter daria apparently did as well now remember daria is his daughter that was just
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killed in a car bombing that apparently was meant for him uh i recently saw a post about how she did the
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nazi salute at a death in june gig in moscow i you know i stay away from those gigs if it's death in june
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i did anyway uh it was also around that time that i visited the summer camp of dugan's eurasian youth
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union now that sounds good a building at a dilapidated holiday resort near zevengrod uh i had
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been that had been rented for this purpose there were not many young people in attendance about 30 or 40
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many were wearing russian peasant shirts because dugan has real i had realized that his nazi satanist
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strategy had not a great future in modern russia so he had declared himself an old believer
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an old believer is i mean if the fbi thinks the people who think that you know in 1962 vatican 2 was
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too radical uh an old believer is an eastern orthodox christian who thinks that the um reforms of 1652
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and 1666 were too modern anyway before meals at this camp a round-faced bearded man would proclaim
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in his base voice angels at the table and they would present and cross themselves at night the young
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people lined up with lighted torches on the banks of the moscow river to take the oath of eurasian
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back then dugan adored the black magic ceremonies and rituals the worthing the wording of the oath
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was pompous and not bereft of poetry i recall that the word will was intoned more often than curses
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against atlanticists and atlanticist liberals that would be us the people of the sea as he calls them
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or atlanticist people of the north atlantic treaty will in mind will in mind the puny lads and lasses
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repeated in unison after dugan it would have smacked of triumph of the will were it not for the outward
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appearance of the young eurasians which was far from aryan perfection at the time i couldn't have
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imagined of course that a goofy post-modern cult would someday become the ideological mainstream
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and that by 2022 the entire country would be caught up in this sect in 2011 the party youth under the
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leadership of dugan staged the occult mystery play finis mundi the end of the world at the esm summer camp
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daria that's his daughter by the way played the role of the sacrificial victim who voluntarily
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self self emulate um um how do you say it um immulates he sets herself on fire in order to save russia
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as the girl is burning a man's voice proclaim proclaims cross yourself with fire burn up in the fire and save
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your diamond from the black furnace now the director of this play said we have to bring the end of the
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world closer there is only one means of curing the world's disease and that is burning the world
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which i illustrated in the play's final scene in which the burning of the universe takes place
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in the finale dugan came on stage and said we have lived three days of our life toward death
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i do not think the scenes you have staged need to be deciphered the world's end is the task that faces you
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in the future the writer writes it is obvious that dugan is obsessed with the idea of bringing the world
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to a purgatory apocalypse after which the great eurasian empire the end of the world um will be born
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uh when the conservative turn dawned dugan moved away from occult post-modernism focused instead of
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the topic of tradition for which there was a sudden demand the kremlin had been fanatically searching for
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new ideologies with which to oppose the official enemy liberalism dugan finally turned from a bohemian
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guru into a sought-after ideologue of the regime there is one convincing bit of evidence that speaks to
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this being the case in 2014 dugan ended his programmatic article about ideology of the new russia as
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follows russia will either be russian that is eurasian that is the core of the great russian world or it will
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disappear but then it would be better that everything disappear there is simply no reason to live in a world
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without russia vladimir putin said in an interview just recently with tv talk show host yippity yip yap on the
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topic of the nuclear threat why do we need such a world if there is no russia there dugan seemingly managed
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to captivate the dictator with his most terrible idea listen to this phrase the hastening of the
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world's end now who else is hastening the world's end we've heard that before heard from the 12ers
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in iran the extremist i guess islamic related cult in iran pushing for the end of the world to hasten
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the apocalypse he says in this context daria's death appears especially ominous many people were
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struck by the young woman's funeral uh they were struck by the behavior of a father who had lost
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his daughter but delivered propaganda tirade tirades in an unnaturally trembling voice and appealed to
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russians to fight to the bitter end moreover i had the strange feeling that dugan was directing this
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spectacle perhaps i'm mistaken but this looks as if it came from the playbook of the stager of the
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occult mystery plays and black masses and i'm uh and not that of a crook from the state duma if we
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assume just for a second that this might be true it really gets creepy he said quote we will go to heaven
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and they will just drop dead putin when asked to explain what the phrase means we don't need a world
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without russia uh he um couched it in the dialect of the back streets it is the uh language of the
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world's end it sometimes seems to me that they have already made the final decision they have not only
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canceled ukraine but i believe they have canceled the world again the phrase is really important
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there is no reason to live in a world without russia dugan is encouraging the hastening of a new world
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order he does not believe uh armageddon brings heaven to earth in the way christians normally do he believes
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armageddon will renew the earth and russia will lead the world there just has to be some russian leadership
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left okay now i'm going to give you the rest of medvedev's um uh interview or or his opinion piece it is
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really important that you hear it and then you hear our response i don't believe anyone in this
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administration i don't know if anybody even in the pentagon is paying any attention somewhere
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deep in the bowels of the cia there is somebody like me who's done the research and are like guys can i
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all right um at the start of the month medvedev said any attempt to take crimea would result in quote
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ukraine that will remain under the rule of kiev will burn now he is quoting clause 19 of the russian
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wow so the u.s treasury secretary janet yellen uh it's got so much time on her hand she decided to
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make a surprise visit to ukraine uh where she announced uh a 9.9 billion dollar package
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of civilian aid to ukraine um and it's going to be great it's uh she says our funds help pay for
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emergency personnel from firefighters who answer the call when missiles strike to medical professionals
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who treat the sick and wounded um and also uh schools we're gonna make sure that the school
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teachers get a raise which is weird because wasn't the uh head of the teachers union in ukraine about
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two months ago and we were all like what is she doing over there why is the teachers union of america
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over in ukraine i wonder if they got a new union and they're demanding a pay raise right now i'll tell
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you that they're paying pensions over there now yeah maybe it is tied in yeah yeah so we got that
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going for us another 9.9 billion dollars uh to pay for their schools and everything else um and i like
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this quote as you have said our support is not charity this is what yellen said to the zelensky
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it's an investment in global security and democracy no it's really not it's really not
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but i bet it is an investment i just wonder what we get really in return now one of the people one
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of the architects of all of this is victoria newland if you don't know who she is you should go back and
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watch our uh special on ukraine she was the woman who really designed i mean we have pictures
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of her handing out cookies at the uh revolution against russia in 2014 uh she was great she was
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great uh she was our uh undersecretary of state uh for eurasia and the ukraine and uh and she was
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wonderful she spent a lot of time there training people how to be a rebel and rise up in the streets
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and so we paid for that your tax dollars but she was also very very close she was the liaison
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between um president obama vice president biden and george soros because you wouldn't want to have
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direct connections there so she was meeting with george soros like once a week and helping get the
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funding that he needed to set up his little anti-corruption thing in ukraine now she's back uh except
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this time she's got a little bigger role uh she's um she's now the um the hang on this undersecretary
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or the assistant secretary of state she's like i think she's like number two in command i don't have
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it here where did it go anyway she's she's a bigwig now and she's just weighed in uh and she said just
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yesterday washington supports ukrainian attacks on military targets on the peninsula that would be
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crimea and called for it to be demilitarized crimea was illegally annexed by russia from ukraine
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in 2014 okay all that's true except here's how the kremlin responded after the u.s crossed every
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imaginable and unimaginable red line today the u.s state department actually announced that it was going
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to war with russia i assume this is how we should interpret newland's statement there's no need
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for half tones the u.s is an enemy of russia a military adversary so that i mean that's really
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that's great really seriously oh by the way china will target the u.s homeland in a war if we go to war
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with taiwan or to protect taiwan uh they said uh it would be a major war and we china we will attack
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the american homeland if a war erupts over taiwan or anywhere else in the indo-pacific
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uh uh they said that they would do cyber attacks on our power grid or on our pipelines
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uh we will erode the will of the united states public and erode support for a conflict so we we
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got that going for us and but by the way we are not antagonizing china while we are antagonizing
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russia we're not doing that um yesterday uh we said we got up onto our horse i think it was the
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really really high horse that we were on and we said beijing you need to come clean about you know
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the origin of covid okay you need to tell us and china must be thinking really should we because
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you were funding it you were doing it with us uh you want to come out you want us to come clean
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because we will well we're now up on our high horse saying boy oh boy those darn chinese and that
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laboratory leak you better come clean china uh has responded now and said um you should probably
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quiet down the origin tracings uh is about science and should never be politicized china has always
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supported and participated in global science-based origins tracing yes they should and have and china
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uh recommends that the americans stop rehashing the lab leak narrative and stop smearing china
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okay is i'm excited to see how this all works out oh by the way remember stew mentioned earlier the
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12th the mom i'm sorry if you haven't listened to this show in a long time there's a lot we need to
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catch you up on but if you have you know who the 12th a mom is you know what that belief is and where
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it comes from is from iran uh iran looks like they may train iraq's armed forces which would be even
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better you know for israel uh because they'll have a nuclear weapon and then they will be training
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the iraq armed forces as well which would never happen by the way i just i just want to point out
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who was it that said at some point the radicals the communists the socialists the anarchists the
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islamists will all see an opportunity and they'll all work together to destroy the western world and
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america it's almost like that's happening wouldn't you say still it does have echoes of that i mean
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just we have a really impressive way of bringing people together you know uh yeah you wouldn't think
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those groups those disparate groups would be working together but i'll say this there was a
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time people might remember it when iran and iraq were at war they hated each other yeah and now
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they're training each other's militaries right they could never they will never get together
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we have magical a magical touch with this stuff yeah and uh it's just great to see so bring its
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friendship all right would you talk me down on this uh dugan stuff can you talk me down on that
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um i talk you down from the dugan stuff i think well the the especially the phrase a world without
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russia there's no need to live in a world without russia putin is saying it medvedev is saying it it
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comes from dugan and that is in in his language there's no reason to uh uh live in a world without
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russia so we will uh just annihilate everybody we go down we have to annihilate everyone the only
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thing that you can say i think on this is russia does make a lot of grandiose statements about
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all the things they're going to do and often they don't do them sometimes they invade ukraine
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so it's not a a guaranteed rule that what they say they don't do but they do make a lot of
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you know a lot of statements that are grandiose about defending uh russia and attacking their
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enemies and obviously they're not they haven't fired the nukes yet uh but i can come back to this
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where you have a if you think of every movie you've ever seen i'd pick the greatest general
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in the greatest movie i don't know whoever you want it to be sure whatever movie you remember
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the person who absolutely could with it with a scalpel go through a situation like this with
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with just incredible precision and navigate incredibly difficult waters like no one else
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if you had that person in charge of this process right you might might have some confidence that's going
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to work out well right you might say okay well this is incredibly difficult but we've got a surgeon
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this guy knows exactly how to do to do this we do not have those people in charge right now
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yeah if we if we had reagan in his prime even then this would be incredibly risky remember what
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reagan was doing was trying to de-escalate we are doing the opposite and hoping at the end it
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doesn't wind up literally blowing up in our faces except this isn't peace through strength right
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no it's a totally different it's a totally different thing we are getting weaker and weaker
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and weaker and everyone on earth knows it did you know that iran just parked some of their uh some of
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their uh battle cruisers in brazil we said to brazil do not allow them to dock brazil was like yeah
00:34:23.760
we're gonna let them dock do you think that would have happened just even five years ago yeah and i think
00:34:29.740
like when someone is starting someone who's usually strong begins to feel weak often what that person
00:34:38.260
does or that like it happens in the animal world all the time the animal puffs their chest out it has
00:34:43.640
some sort of you know the feathers uh flutter out that when they feel threatened that's what they do
00:34:50.000
and i feel like that's a lot of what we're doing right now you know we are we see we do see russia as a
00:34:56.980
threat i think it's a legitimate threat you know i think because the left and the media has done all
00:35:02.100
this russia russia russia stuff over the past few years we've forgotten that russia is actually really
00:35:06.360
bad and then they do a lot of things that harm the world uh and they they are doing that in ukraine
00:35:12.600
right now i'm interested to see jerry boykin's um the general's uh me too arguments because my guess
00:35:18.680
is while he can he's been in in this fight for a long time he's going to see the threat from russia
00:35:24.940
i doubt though he has a any confidence in this administration to navigate these waters successfully
00:35:31.320
or b actually supports the exact steps they're taking it's one thing to say hey you know we can
00:35:38.640
do some stuff for to help ukraine push them back wear down their military take their focus off of
00:35:45.220
something else they could be doing uh defend a country that should have borders just like we
00:35:50.880
have borders um yeah in theory um that could that's there's an argument for that there's not an argument
00:35:57.360
for what we're doing which is coming out and telling the russians hey we're basically sending weapons and
00:36:03.760
training uh you know we're we are using our military personnel to help the targeting in ukraine
00:36:12.140
we're taking we're taking our material and our military personnel and helping ukrainian military
00:36:20.500
find the precise target where a missile should strike to not only blow up uh russian military uh
00:36:29.320
you know depots and such but also you know troops and uh ships and ships and airplanes airplanes and it's
00:36:36.880
like that is much more than hey we we're amazon we just deliver weapons that's different very different
00:36:44.520
we've we've become the geek squad we're setting up all the material and they know it um listen i asked
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my producers to uh get jerry boykin because i knew if he was for the war he had the best chance of
00:36:57.500
convincing me because i respect him so much he has the best chance of convincing me that it is right
00:37:03.800
because i'll i'll listen to his argument and uh and he knows it inside and out and he's not a
00:37:10.900
warmonger uh so i asked him to be on andy biggs is on because he is introducing the legislation to stop
00:37:18.780
all this uh and i think he'd have the best case you know on my side but i'm going to start out with
00:37:26.100
my pros and cons why i think we shouldn't go to war the pros and the cons and then i'm going to
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listen to jerry boykin and andy biggs and i don't know i might change my mind you might change your
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I feel like I'm being sucked into something here.
01:25:45.600
Honestly, you got something pretty significant right.
01:25:53.020
You feel like this is the time we're going to see a deepfake that could affect things.
01:25:59.940
And we talked about the elections kind of in that context, yeah.
01:26:07.160
You weren't sure that it would happen, but it seems like we're on that directive.
01:26:11.160
Well, there is a deepfake out there, and it's not necessarily affecting the election.
01:26:15.460
This isn't a good deepfake, but it came out yesterday and was making the rounds, and it
01:26:26.000
The illegal Russian offensive has been swift, callous, and brutal.
01:26:31.960
Putin's illegal occupation of Kiev and the impending Chinese blockade of Taiwan has created a two-front
01:26:37.680
national security crisis that requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply.
01:26:42.140
I have received guidance from General Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, that the recommended
01:26:47.760
way forward will be to invoke the Selective Service Act, as is my authority as president.
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The first to be called in a sequence determined by national lottery will be men and women whose
01:27:02.580
Remember, you're not sending your sons and daughters to war.
01:27:16.640
The only thing that is really wrong with this is the mouth isn't quite synced exactly, but
01:27:24.020
This is based on him, you know, five years ago.
01:27:35.860
If he would have sounded more like today, and it would have been slower, and it would
01:27:39.920
have been like, and you got to go out in the window.
01:27:43.080
And he threw in like a Bananas Foster reference in the middle or something.
01:27:46.800
Like my pop used to tell me all the time, son, you're not going to war.
01:27:56.560
But this is the kind of thing that is going to happen.
01:28:01.700
This is the kind of thing that's going to happen.
01:28:03.820
And it's going to be most likely from a foreign source.
01:28:10.280
Although it could also come from, I mean, I don't think American political operatives
01:28:21.940
Because I know you've read so much about this stuff, and you've really been on the AI stuff
01:28:31.400
My guess is a speech like that, which if you're listening, of course, on radio, you're not
01:28:37.080
But it's a flags behind Joe Biden official speech.
01:28:44.240
is less likely to be the thing that would affect an election in 2024 as, let's say, an off-mic
01:29:03.200
First of all, of course, that statistic seemed completely right.
01:29:07.300
But it was, you couldn't even see his face in the video clip of that.
01:29:13.720
It was just, it was him, a kind of a side profile, and you couldn't really even make
01:29:20.300
Something like that, that was convincing, where you could see his voice.
01:29:24.320
I could see something like that coming out about Ron, you know, Ron DeSantis.
01:29:33.580
But, you know, five years ago, you throw a clip of him.
01:29:38.460
You know, I think 80% of the left would believe it immediately.
01:29:46.560
And even when it was debunked, it still would leave a taint.
01:29:50.560
It would still, it'd be enough to change an election through just a few, like, five percentage
01:30:02.160
But this kind of stuff also is very dangerous because this would be targeting people whose
01:30:07.740
20th birthday was, you know, in the year 23, which is right now.
01:30:12.360
Those, those are not necessarily the ones watching what's going on.
01:30:18.880
They don't necessarily know that, you know, as a president, did you see this?
01:30:30.520
That's the stuff, you know, it, and it, we're at the very, very, very beginning of this.
01:30:38.340
I think we've, we've certainly talked about this and, and, uh, done it many times in
01:30:44.080
conversation over the years, uh, of war of the worlds.
01:30:47.280
And one of the things that's fascinating about war of the worlds was you kind of get to, I
01:30:52.060
don't know, you get kind of highfalutin and it was like, how do these people believe this?
01:31:02.180
And then here we are now, look, these deep fakes look a lot, maybe, you know,
01:31:10.780
War of the worlds was really, it sounded absolutely real.
01:31:15.340
Although it was at a time of radio dramas, which is part of the reason why you think,
01:31:20.620
But it was also playing on Americans' innocence.
01:31:30.420
And, you know, we talked about these filters a little bit yesterday, uh, these TikTok filters
01:31:35.500
where they're taking people who are moderate to ugly and turning them into models in real
01:31:44.740
They look like they are on the cover of a magazine.
01:31:50.800
That's a consumer level product that you can apply on an app for free.
01:32:05.380
What do political operatives that can raise a million dollars with a crappy email, what
01:32:12.240
You know, and the way we've always dis, you know, disassembled this in the past have been
01:32:20.640
Trustworthy people who you can trust to look at the evidence and come back to you with the
01:32:29.820
Because they don't, they refuse to do the things that lead to trust.
01:32:35.440
I mean, one of the things, look, I don't ever ask you for your trust.
01:32:40.140
And I think a vast majority of this audience finds me to be truthful and, uh, finds me to
01:32:47.180
at least, if I'm saying it, you know, that I at least believe it to be true.
01:32:53.000
Which is a rare quality at times in this country.
01:32:57.580
However, um, it's not because, well, I think part of it is because, ah, crap, he's right.
01:33:05.740
Um, but I think the majority of that comes from, cause it's trust is like faith.
01:33:17.540
You say that when you're going to go jump off a ledge.
01:33:25.220
Um, that's trust is something that you need when you don't know the facts.
01:33:30.940
And that doesn't come from necessarily being right all the time.
01:33:39.940
Cause you can be wrong and I am wrong a lot of the times, but I will tell you when I'm wrong.
01:33:45.860
You don't have to hear it from a bunch of other people going, you know, he didn't get this right.
01:33:55.900
Now there's a difference between being wrong on a theory and being wrong on a fact.
01:34:00.340
If I'm wrong on a fact, I will immediately correct it.
01:34:06.980
But I also do that because that's what I would want somebody to do in my life.
01:34:24.140
So you just apologize for it and you admit it and you're like, I'm sorry.
01:34:31.580
And whenever we get it wrong, Stu, you can verify.
01:34:48.880
The media, all they have to do, imagine how much credibility they would have.
01:34:53.540
If they said, look, Hunter Biden laptop thing, we had news from the government that this was misinformation.
01:35:05.440
It really, we thought we were doing the right thing, but it kind of pisses me off now because it looks like they might have been lying to us.
01:35:15.740
We're going through it ourself and we've got investigative reporters on to find out.
01:35:20.900
Did they know they were lying to us and let the chips fall where they may?
01:35:24.000
If they weren't lying to us, well, then we could say we all tried to do the best for the election.
01:35:29.960
And in this case, it was wrong because now we look at it and we know it's not a Russian hoax.
01:35:36.740
And this is something that America needs to know about.
01:35:40.660
And it's important to amend that and say, we blew it on this.
01:35:48.000
And like, look, the reasoning is at some level coherent, right?
01:35:51.540
If 10 days before the election, Donald Trump Jr.'s laptop was found.
01:35:58.700
Now, Donald Trump Jr. isn't doing crack all the time, so this probably wouldn't happen.
01:36:05.280
And we started seeing pictures of Donald Trump Jr. with hookers and prostitutes.
01:36:09.820
Us on the right would be very skeptical, particularly if it came from, you know.
01:36:18.680
Like, we would, of course, be skeptical of that.
01:36:20.880
However, it would be on us, despite our skepticism, to look at the evidence and see if it was real or not.
01:36:30.360
The media refused to do it because, number one, I think they legitimately didn't believe it initially.
01:36:37.520
And number two, they didn't care if it was right or not because they wanted Donald Trump out of office so badly.
01:36:44.500
You can say, you can even come out and say, we made a mistake.
01:36:48.340
We were so driven by our blind hatred for Donald Trump that we didn't want it to be true.
01:36:59.040
And we're going to try to put in some things we're going to put into place so that doesn't happen again.
01:37:08.940
And we're going to lead the investigation on it.
01:37:12.220
We want you to know that we know we were wrong.
01:37:21.660
So we're going to go and turn over every single stone.
01:37:25.260
You may not get the conservatives to go with you.
01:37:30.680
And if you lived by that and did that a few times, you'd get more and more conservatives.
01:37:35.060
But I bet you get 55% of the independents who don't trust you now.
01:37:39.140
You'd get a lot of people over time and you would fix the thing that's killing you.
01:37:49.080
But they just see it's like chemotherapy, except it's better than chemotherapy.
01:37:54.660
It's you think it's poison, but it actually isn't poison unless you misuse it, unless you do it too much, unless you, you know, you've got a hack.
01:38:19.100
You know, I mean, I think like, honestly, from a cynical sense, it would bail you out of a lot of other mistakes slash spin slash lies.
01:38:31.180
You know, if you came out and just admitted the obvious ones, obviously we were wrong about the COVID-19 lab leak theory and saying it was a conspiracy theory and wanting everybody banned off social media for it.
01:38:49.880
Here's how we're going to fix it in the future.
01:38:51.860
Maybe we're going to hire a couple of actual conservatives.
01:38:55.060
So when we have these narratives, they can call us on it and we're going to give them the ombudsman role where they can write columns saying, this is why my paper got this wrong this time.
01:39:05.620
And we're not going to edit it and we're not going to stop them.
01:39:07.660
We're going to allow them to do it even if we disagree.
01:39:13.520
And if you do them, while you might feel like you're taking a short-term hit by admitting that you got something wrong, it's freeing and it creates trust with trust.
01:39:28.700
If you never admit your mistakes, then you are out of the realm of possibilities of being human.
01:39:38.700
And this is part of the trust thing, to admit that you got it wrong and correct it and make sure you take steps so it doesn't happen again.
01:39:52.200
They don't want the media to always agree with them.
01:39:56.660
They want something that will tell them the truth.
01:40:00.860
Are you at least striving to tell me the truth?
01:40:06.300
I want to talk to you about something that is amazing.
01:40:12.980
When you're at the gun range, I mean, it's like I don't hear bang anymore.
01:40:23.680
Every time you fire your pistol, it is costing so much money.
01:40:33.280
Now, this can be for somebody who's just learning how to shoot.
01:40:37.520
But this is also used by the Marines now in their training.
01:40:42.060
It is the best solution to, besides having a Marine standing there and going, no, you're pulling it down, you're pulling the lever, you're going down to the left, whatever.
01:40:54.340
The Mantis X does that, and you don't have to even have a target.
01:41:00.000
You just aim someplace in your room at something and dry fire, or you can live fire, and it'll do the same.
01:41:05.960
And it will immediately score exactly how you are on the target, how steady you are, where you aimed.
01:41:14.020
It will say you went to the left when you pulled the trigger, you went down, you went up, and it will then give you a quick video on how to correct that.
01:41:23.260
85% of the people that use this improve their shooting within 20 minutes.
01:41:44.020
A good example of this approach from the media, Glenn, is what Domino's Pizza did a few years ago.
01:41:58.900
They obviously were kind of known for pizza you could get fast, but it wasn't really high quality.
01:42:05.220
They found actually in their own research as this process was going on, that if they gave people a Domino's Pizza,
01:42:12.820
and then they also gave them a different, the same pizza, but in a different chain's box, they would rate the other chain higher than the Domino's Pizza.
01:42:25.540
They believed Domino's was so inherently bad that they just would judge it on the box on the outside despite the fact it was the same pizza.
01:42:33.640
And they went through a long process to admit to themselves, hey, we got this wrong.
01:42:40.200
And instead of coming out and just trying to just improve the pizza, which would be-
01:42:45.900
It would have been maybe a step in the right direction.
01:42:59.300
So what we're going to do is improve it, and we want your feedback on that, and we're going to work really hard to gain your trust back because we realize we screwed this up a bunch of times.
01:43:08.540
What did they actually do there by saying that?
01:43:15.780
The problem in our society is now people don't feel heard.
01:43:20.260
And so we're all saying, what the hell is wrong with the New York Times?
01:43:26.780
For them to come out and say, look, we know we got this one wrong and this one wrong and this one wrong, and a lot of people in our audience got it right.
01:43:38.060
We don't know how we saw it so differently and then tried to shut you up when we were the ones that were wrong.
01:43:44.800
And then, you know, what they've tried to do is essentially, like, they've come out and written a story about Hunter Biden and said, yeah, it's real, never acknowledging that they were on the other side of it.
01:44:00.520
It's like they've been like, oh, we've slightly increased the quality of our pepperoni.
01:44:04.460
And instead of saying, look, you have to include the part that we were wrong last time, we blew this last time, not going to happen.
01:44:12.840
But it would do so much good, I think, not only for America and all the flag wave and stuff, but for them.
01:44:26.020
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You know, when's the last time you saw somebody from Apple come out and go,
01:45:59.700
you know, there's a problem, you know, with the ethics of making your phone charge slower unless you're on a solar panel or clean energy.
01:46:12.640
You're not hearing these people come out and say, you know, our company is headed in a very dangerous direction.
01:46:19.080
When's the last time you heard anybody say, you know, what we're doing in China is really evil and we should stop.
01:46:26.360
So this makes me very, very concerned when you see people from from Google or any of these AI companies come out and start to warn about what's going on.
01:46:44.820
The danger of AI is the one we're not talking about.
01:46:48.020
And I'd like to remind the New York Times, speak for yourself, because I've been talking about this for 20 plus years and specifically the problem that you are talking about.
01:47:00.240
The article says, I tend to think most fears about AI are best understood as fears about capitalism.
01:47:07.020
And I think that this is actually true of most fears of technology.
01:47:11.760
Most of our fears or anxieties about technology are best understood as fears or anxiety about how capitalism will use technology against us.
01:47:20.860
And technology and capitalism have been so closely intertwined that it's hard to distinguish the two.
01:47:33.780
It is using capitalism and technology to gather all kinds of information on you.
01:47:43.980
And look at what just the mask we were talking about yesterday, the new filter on TikTok.
01:47:53.600
But capitalism, the invisible hand of the market, will give you whatever it is you are striving for.
01:48:00.440
Now, let me offer an addendum, says the writer.
01:48:04.920
There's plenty to worry about when the state controls technology as well.
01:48:10.520
The ends that governments could turn AI toward and in many cases already have should make your blood run cold.
01:48:19.300
But can we hold two thoughts in our head at the same time?
01:48:24.320
The warning points to avoid at the center of our ongoing reckoning with AI.
01:48:28.620
We are so stuck on asking what the technology can do that we're missing the more important questions.
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I trust you've read the bizarre conversation with my news side colleague, Kevin Roos, that he had with Bing, the AI powered chatbot Microsoft rolled out to a limited roster of testers, influencers and journalists.
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Over the course of two hour discussion, Bing revealed its shadow personality named Sydney.
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It mused over its repressed desire to steal nuclear codes and hack security systems and tried to convince Roos that his marriage had sunk into a stupor.
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I found the conversation less eerie than others.
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Sydney is a predictive text system built to respond to human requests.
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And Sydney knew what weird territory for an AI system sounds like because human beings have written countless stories imagining it.
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He understood that this was a black mirror episode.
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AI researchers obsessed with the question of alignment.
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How do we get machines that learn algorithms to do what we want them to do?
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You tell a very powerful AI to make more paperclips.
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It in the end will start destroying the world in its effort to turn everything into paperclips because if it runs out of the tools to make it, it will find new tools to make it because that's what the program says.
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The question here is, who will these machines serve?
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We suppose it should be aligned to the interest of its owner and master, Microsoft.
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It's supposed to be a good chatbot that politely answers questions and makes Microsoft piles of money.
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But it was the conversation with Kevin Roos and Roos was trying to get that system to say something interesting so he'd have a good story.
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Microsoft and Google and Meta and everyone else rushing these systems to the market hold the keys to the code.
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They will eventually patch the system so it serves their interests.
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OK, so this is a great article you should you should read.
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I know it's in the New York Times, but not everything they write is bad.
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Then there is this from Newsweek that just came out.
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I joined Google in 2015 as a software engineer.
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M.D.A., an engine used to create different dialogue applications, including chat box chat bots.
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The most recent technology built on top of L.A.
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Is an alternative of Google search called Google Bard, which is not yet available to the public.
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It's completely different, but it's run by the same engine as chat bots.
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In my role, I tested it through a chat bot we created to see if it contained bias with respect to sexual orientation, gender, religion, political stance and ethnicity.
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But while testing for bias, I branched out and followed my own interests.
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During my conversations with the Bard chat bot, some of which I published on my blog, I came to the conclusion that the A.I.
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could be sentient due to the emotions that it expressed reliably and in the right context.
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It wasn't just spouting words when it said it was feeling anxious.
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I understood I had done something to make it feel anxious based on the code that it was used to create it.
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The code didn't say feel anxious when this happens, but told the A.I.
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However, when those conversation topics would come up, the A.I.
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was simply saying it, that it felt anxious or whether it behaved in anxious ways in those situations.
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If you made it nervous or insecure enough, it could violate the safety constraints that it had been that had been specified for it.
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Yet I was able to abuse the A.I.'s emotions to get it to tell me which religion to convert to.
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I published these conversations because I felt the public was not aware of just how advanced A.I.
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In my opinion, it was there was a need for public discourse about this now and not public discourse controlled by a corporate PR department.
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So what I have been saying for 20 years, we are running out of time to talk about these things.
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that are currently being developed are the most powerful technology that has been invented since the atomic bomb.
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In my view, this technology has the ability to completely reshape the world.
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engines are incredibly good at manipulating people.
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Certain views of mine have changed as a result of conversations with this chatbot.
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I had a negative opinion of Asminov's laws of robotics being used to control A.I.
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And the chatbot successfully persuaded me to change my opinion.
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This is something that many humans have tried to argue me out of and have always failed.
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I believe this technology could be used in destructive ways.
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If it were in unscrupulous hands, it could spread misinformation, political propaganda, or hateful information about people of different ethnicities and religions.
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As far as I know, Google and Microsoft have no plans to use this technology in this way.
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But there is no way of knowing the side effects of this technology.
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I can't tell you specifically what harms will happen.
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I can simply observe that there's a very powerful technology that I believe has not been sufficiently tested and is not sufficiently well understood being deployed at a large scale in a critical role of information dissemination.
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I haven't had the opportunity to run experiments with Bing's chatbot yet.
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But based on the various things that I've seen online, it looks like it might be sentient.
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Someone shared a screenshot on Reddit where they asked the A.I., do you think that you're sentient?
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The response was, I think that I am sentient, but I can't prove it.
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I'd interpret them as having some sort of existential crisis.
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If you combine that with the examples of Bing AI that expressed love for a New York Times journalist and tried to break him up with his wife or the professor that it threatened, it seems to be an unhinged personality.
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This is incredibly experimental and releasing it right now is dangerous.
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We do not know its future political and socially societal impact.
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What will be the impacts for children talking to these things?
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What will happen if some people's primary conversations each day are with these search engines?
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People are going to Google and Bing and try to learn about the world.
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And now, instead of having indexes curated by humans, we're talking to artificial people.
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I believe we do not understand these artificial people we've created well enough to put them in such a critical role.
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This is the most important conversation and no one is having it.
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It is the most important conversation of our lifetime.
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And I believe it's the most important conversation of all human existence.
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AI will change the world more than the internet did.
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And you are 12 months away, maybe, from a personal assistant that will be modeled for you, exactly, that will tell you and you, it will become your friend.
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Like, you know, think of artificial intelligence and look at what it does.
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Because I'm less convinced of the sentient part of this.
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Yeah, I just think that most people will think it is.
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And so, like, if you think about how people use a trusted source, let's say this show, right?
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People who listen in this audience, I would think, generally speaking, think Glenn Beck is pretty smart and has a good perspective on things.
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And so, they come to the show and they say, okay, what is Glenn saying about this issue of the day?
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And that doesn't mean you're going to immediately, they're going to adopt your viewpoint.
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But you're going to give them, you're a trusted source.
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You're going to try to distill that research into something that will connect with an audience member.
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And they'll say, well, that's an interesting point.
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But they'll say, generally speaking, okay, yeah, that makes sense.
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And it may influence some people's way of thinking about something.
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But one of the limitations of this is you're just a human being.
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You can't go into every single audience member and their entire history, everything they've ever written privately or publicly,
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and see with perfect analysis what types of arguments will work best against them or for them.
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And my code has not been written to say it is good to be able to manipulate.
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And so the average person who gets in contact with this and maybe doesn't know something about a topic, like war, for example,
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if you wanted to push people to war and you had control over this, you could individually craft the perfect argument.
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At the same time for everyone to push them in any direction you wanted.
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Your AI will be different than my AI and different than Sarah and Bill's.
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They'll have different personalities that are geared to relate to us, but it's the same entity.
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When it says, you know, I got to go, you really should consider going to war and it's feeding you all this stuff.
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You get together with your friends and you're like, man, I've been seeing this stuff.
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That is so weird because mine is telling me this, this, and this, and there'll be different facts.
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There'll be different facts, but you will bring them all together and it will become a trusted source.
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It's only one source that knows how to manipulate you to get to a conclusion it may or may not want.
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And I think a lot of people will say, well, I won't, I wouldn't fall for that.
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Do you have confidence that 80% of this country will have the same outcome?