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00:01:40.020 Well, hello, America. It is Thursday and what a great Thursday it's going to be.

00:01:46.920 We have some amazing, amazing stories to tell you today.

00:01:52.460 Some really great things that are happening.

00:01:55.080 Some updates on the news.

00:01:58.040 We have the attorney general from the state of Texas, Ken Paxton, is going to be on yesterday.

00:02:07.760 He and the governor were getting hammered.

00:02:12.120 And I don't think for any real reason, because as soon as the story broke that we had a salon worker going to jail,

00:02:22.400 the governor and the attorney general came out and said,

00:02:25.160 this is insane and has got to stop.

00:02:28.920 He wants to make that point on today's broadcast.

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00:02:51.180 Glenn's got something wrong about the protests in Michigan.

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00:04:27.340 So there is a great story on The Blaze yesterday.

00:04:31.720 It was written and updated.

00:04:33.400 Last I saw it was last night.

00:04:35.700 Fundraiser for Dallas salon owner Shelly Luther explodes by the minute

00:04:40.440 after she is jailed for refusing to close her business.

00:04:44.320 And actually, that's not why she was jailed.

00:04:46.300 She was jailed because she refused to apologize to the judge

00:04:50.700 who called her selfish for opening the salon up.

00:04:55.520 In that, yesterday, we played the audio of her where she said,

00:04:59.360 I'm not selfish.

00:05:01.020 I have to disagree with you.

00:05:02.540 I'm quoting.

00:05:03.600 When you say that I'm selfish, sir, because feeding my kids is not selfish.

00:05:08.080 I have hairstylists that are going hungry because they'd rather feed their kids.

00:05:12.420 So, sir, if you think the law is more important than kids being fed,

00:05:15.520 then go ahead with your decision.

00:05:17.180 But I am not going to shut the salon.

00:05:19.740 So she wouldn't apologize and she wouldn't shut the salon.

00:05:22.380 So he put her in jail.

00:05:24.020 Well, we talked about this as an outrage yesterday.

00:05:27.060 And everybody seems to agree with that.

00:05:31.000 Well, I shouldn't say our audience certainly agrees with that.

00:05:34.440 The GoFundMe page that was set up to help her with her legal woes last night.

00:05:41.360 Let's see.

00:05:41.900 At the time of this writing, the GoFundMe page has received more than three hundred and thirty six thousand

00:05:47.340 and rapidly continuing.

00:05:49.760 I checked it about six this morning.

00:05:52.920 Stu, can you check it real quick?

00:05:55.000 The the Shelley Luther GoFundMe page.

00:05:59.300 When I saw it, it was about five hundred thousand.

00:06:01.960 It was just about to crack five hundred thousand this morning.

00:06:05.640 What is it now?

00:06:06.300 Do you know?

00:06:06.860 Just over five hundred.

00:06:07.880 By the way, just over five hundred thousand.

00:06:10.880 And I think this is fantastic.

00:06:13.220 Really fantastic.

00:06:14.180 Now, the governor came out yesterday and said the attorney general in disagreeing with the

00:06:20.100 excessive action by the Dallas judge compliance with executive orders is important to ensure

00:06:26.280 public safety.

00:06:27.120 However, surely there are less restrictive means to achieving that goal than jailing a Texas

00:06:32.160 mother.

00:06:32.780 That seems a little light, but we do have to have some rule of law.

00:06:40.960 And I think that we're in a really dicey situation.

00:06:43.840 These are not laws.

00:06:46.080 That's the problem.

00:06:47.680 These are all being done by, in many cases, unelected officials that are just in a department

00:06:54.480 of whatever.

00:06:55.260 And they're deciding.

00:06:57.360 Now, this judge, I think, was just way out of line.

00:07:00.120 So we have today in about an hour and 15 minutes, we have the Texas attorney general who wrote

00:07:08.940 yesterday, I find it outrageous and out of touch that during this national pandemic, a judge

00:07:15.920 in a county that actually released hardened criminals for fear of contracting COVID-19 would

00:07:23.360 jail a mother for operating her hair salon in an attempt to put food on the family's table.

00:07:29.100 It is a shameful abuse of judicial discretion.

00:07:33.640 Amen.

00:07:34.380 I love Ken Paxton.

00:07:36.480 I think he is just outrageously great.

00:07:39.580 So we're going to find out what he's going to do now.

00:07:42.220 California, they've decided to do something else.

00:07:44.960 We're going to talk to a restaurant owner.

00:07:46.600 It's actually a it's a wine bar owner who found himself in a situation where he had to open

00:07:53.380 up because he said, I, I, I, I'm going to lose my business.

00:07:57.980 So I don't know what to do.

00:08:00.320 I have to open to be able to save my business.

00:08:04.060 And he said, I'm willing to go to jail for that.

00:08:06.640 Well, in California, they didn't threaten jail.

00:08:09.240 They said, we'll take your license away.

00:08:11.880 Now, that's an extra twenty thousand dollar expense that he had paid to get his license

00:08:17.440 in California.

00:08:18.960 If they take it away, he won't have a business.

00:08:21.720 So now he's caught between a rock and a hard place.

00:08:24.580 He's not going to jail.

00:08:26.400 He'll just get his business license pulled.

00:08:29.340 And so that won't be as bad because people won't be going to jail, which they think is

00:08:34.160 is so horrible.

00:08:35.280 Well, my life being destroyed is probably worse than going to jail for seven days.

00:08:42.460 But these are the kinds of things that we are we are now looking at.

00:08:47.280 And California is looking at this because the sheriff's department are not doing it.

00:08:51.860 There's a sheriff in Riverside County.

00:08:54.000 His name is Chad Bianco.

00:08:55.880 And he said, I'm not going to do it.

00:08:58.180 I want to I want to read his I want to read parts of his statement.

00:09:01.880 He said eight weeks ago, Governor Newsom and other officials participated in something never

00:09:10.160 done before in our nation's history.

00:09:13.020 He ordered residents into their homes, close their businesses, made them wear masks, forbid

00:09:18.180 them from going to church and eliminated constitutional freedoms put into place over 200 years ago.

00:09:25.800 Man, I want to contribute to this guy's campaign.

00:09:28.420 And if he's running again in the name of public health crisis, our civil liberties and constitutional

00:09:35.040 protections have been placed on hold.

00:09:38.480 Officials have asked a lot of evidence over the last two months as part of a greater effort

00:09:42.680 to flatten the curve and prevent hospitals from being completely overwhelmed by Corona patients.

00:09:47.740 This is something that we all agreed on.

00:09:50.160 That's how they got us into this.

00:09:52.720 It worked.

00:09:54.700 What isn't being emphasized is that 2000 of the 4,300 people who have tested positive have

00:10:00.400 already recovered and returned to work.

00:10:03.400 What that means is that out of two and a half million people in Riverside County, we only

00:10:09.200 have 2300 residents positive with this virus.

00:10:13.280 Statistically, that is less than a tenth of one percent.

00:10:16.920 He said the discussion should be based on facts and data, not protections and fear.

00:10:26.200 He said he didn't enforce the law and the the stay at home order from the beginning.

00:10:31.020 He said, I knew people could be trusted to act as responsible adults.

00:10:36.780 And I was correct.

00:10:38.340 As we continue, I will reinforce my position.

00:10:41.560 Not only do we not have the resources to enforce unreasonable orders.

00:10:45.780 I refuse to make criminals out of business owners, single moms and otherwise healthy individuals

00:10:51.520 for exercising their constitutional rights.

00:10:54.100 I believe Riverside County, this in California, I believe Riverside County residents are responsible

00:11:00.280 enough to proceed cautiously.

00:11:02.320 I mean, then he goes on, he says, there cannot be a new normal.

00:11:11.280 Fundamental freedoms of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

00:11:15.100 Any new normal is a direct attack on those basic rights which set us apart and make us the greatest

00:11:21.800 country in the world.

00:11:22.800 I love you, Sheriff Bianco.

00:11:27.340 I love you.

00:11:28.060 I don't know anything else about you, but I love you.

00:11:31.120 Let me show you.

00:11:31.940 Let me show you the other side of the country.

00:11:34.320 This is coming from de Blasio.

00:11:37.580 De Blasio said that he will not permit people to gather for protests.

00:11:44.000 Okay, let's just, let's just go through the first amendment.

00:11:50.660 You have a right to assemble.

00:11:55.300 You have a right to assemble.

00:11:58.060 You have a right to petition the government.

00:12:01.100 In other words, I can get together and protest with a bunch of people and say, I don't agree

00:12:07.580 with this, what the government is doing.

00:12:09.480 You have that God-given right.

00:12:12.940 Well, no, you really don't.

00:12:14.880 You need a license to protest now.

00:12:17.300 I need a license?

00:12:18.640 Why do I need a license to protest?

00:12:21.720 No, this is the, this is the new civil rights movement right now.

00:12:29.060 This is the civil rights movement.

00:12:31.260 Boy, I hope you read your Martin Luther King because Martin Luther King acted in a very specific

00:12:37.320 way and it is the only way to win, but this is the new civil rights movement.

00:12:43.900 These people are taking away your right to petition the government, your right to gather

00:12:49.980 and, and gather in a crowd because you want to petition the government.

00:12:55.600 You're getting, you're losing your rights to free speech because Google, which is now

00:13:01.820 the public square.

00:13:03.020 I don't care if it's a private company.

00:13:04.960 They have protections because they're a platform.

00:13:08.360 If they want to edit, then they don't get the protections of being a platform period.

00:13:14.900 They're now the public square.

00:13:17.180 Your voice is not allowed in the public square.

00:13:19.980 If you disagree with the authoritative truth, the authoritative truth, that line should chill

00:13:26.620 you to the bone, the authoritative truth, well, it used to be the church back in the dark

00:13:34.040 ages.

00:13:35.360 Now it's a new church.

00:13:38.260 It's a new church of, I don't even know science.

00:13:42.180 I can't even say that because a lot of scientists disagree.

00:13:45.500 They're banning doctors and scientists from what they want to say.

00:13:55.000 So let's just continue.

00:13:56.360 You've got the loss of assembly, the loss of petitioning your government, the, uh, without

00:14:01.620 a license.

00:14:02.140 So they, they'll, they'll approve it.

00:14:03.760 I mean, what is this?

00:14:04.380 The Soviet union?

00:14:05.380 You've lost the free press, freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

00:14:12.840 Why do I say freedom of religion?

00:14:14.760 Have you heard what the governor has said now in, in Illinois, that it may be at least

00:14:23.020 a year before people are, uh, allowed to go back to church?

00:14:29.480 Excuse me?

00:14:31.980 Excuse me?

00:14:33.800 At least a year before people are going back to church?

00:14:38.080 Uh, I don't think so.

00:14:39.500 I don't think so.

00:14:40.680 No, no, I refuse.

00:14:42.860 No.

00:14:43.300 Now I could choose not to go to church, but you are not shutting my church down for a

00:14:48.620 year.

00:14:49.280 No.

00:14:50.800 My church was, my church was ahead of all of the other, uh, the states, all of the other

00:14:57.420 local municipalities that have just turned unbelievably, uh, draconian.

00:15:04.100 They came out early before anybody was doing anything.

00:15:07.200 And they said, we're going to cancel all church services.

00:15:09.760 We're pulling, uh, our missionaries home from around the world, et cetera, et cetera.

00:15:13.760 Now they have already started sending missionaries back out.

00:15:17.620 They haven't opened the services yet, but that's my church deciding.

00:15:23.600 My church has a right to decide when they're going to meet in their own building.

00:15:28.560 And then each individual church member has a right to decide when they're going to attend.

00:15:37.280 What, who do you think you are?

00:15:42.100 By the way, none of these things are laws.

00:15:44.980 None of them are laws.

00:15:47.380 Laws need to be passed.

00:15:49.740 These are dictates.

00:15:52.480 Yes, the root word of dictator.

00:15:55.880 Dictator, a dictate comes from a dictator.

00:16:01.660 Hmm.

00:16:04.540 Now, let me give you one bright spot.

00:16:08.580 Except it was reported.

00:16:10.060 It was reported yesterday in Esquire as, uh, uh, the hearing was absurd.

00:16:17.740 And I want to give you this before I let you hear what you said.

00:16:21.060 Uh, Wisconsin Supreme court justices were hearing a challenge, blah, blah, blah.

00:16:26.740 And the state, uh, stay at home order brought by Republicans, yada, yada, yada, yada.

00:16:31.460 Uh, the main center ring attraction was justice, uh, Rebecca Bradley, who was placed on the court

00:16:37.420 as part of the enduring legacy of former governor Scott Walker in discussing the governor's order.

00:16:42.780 As an assistant attorney general, Colin Roth appeared to be rethinking his career choice

00:16:48.020 because Bradley went full Glenn Beck, never go full Glenn Beck.

00:16:53.300 According to Esquire, then they quote her and this is full Glenn Beck.

00:16:57.520 You tell me what the problem is.

00:16:59.780 My question for you is where is in the constitute?

00:17:04.060 You know what?

00:17:04.360 Let me have her say it.

00:17:05.240 We have the audio.

00:17:06.080 Could you play it quickly?

00:17:07.540 My question for you is where in the constitution did the people of Wisconsin confer authority

00:17:14.200 on a single unelected cabinet secretary to compel almost 6 million people to stay at home

00:17:21.540 and close their businesses and face imprisonment if they don't comply with no input from the

00:17:28.260 legislature without the consent of the people.

00:17:31.120 So isn't it the very definition of tyranny for one person to order people to be imprisoned

00:17:37.500 for going to work among other ordinarily lawful activities?

00:17:42.680 Where does the constitution say that's permissible counsel?

00:17:47.200 Then she goes on.

00:17:48.620 I'll direct your attention to another time in history where the Supreme court said the need

00:17:53.720 for action was great and the time was short and that justified.

00:17:57.420 And I'm quoting assembling together and placing under guard all those Japanese of Japanese

00:18:03.800 ancestry in assembly centers in during World War Two.

00:18:08.700 Could the secretary under this broad delegation of legislative powers or legislative like power

00:18:13.640 order people out of their homes into centers where they're properly social distance in order

00:18:18.200 to combat the pandemic?

00:18:19.620 The point of my question is there are limits constitution or statutory.

00:18:24.000 There have to be some don't their counsel.

00:18:27.720 This was mocked as being full on Glenn Beck.

00:18:30.680 I'm proud if that's full on Glenn Beck.

00:18:33.720 That's fantastic that I would be associated with the constitution and common sense.

00:18:40.720 Defending common people.

00:18:43.440 Thank you.

00:18:44.540 Thank you to this judge.

00:18:46.080 This this this judge is only saying the things that most Americans have grown up believing

00:18:55.580 in that we don't listen to people who are not elected officials.

00:19:01.760 Thank you, Justice Rebecca Bradley, for your balls to say these things back in just a minute.

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00:21:14.880 So did you see that the guy who writes Black Mirror, he said, I can't write anymore.

00:21:23.600 We're already there.

00:21:25.300 Wait, wait, wait.

00:21:26.600 What?

00:21:26.920 What?

00:21:27.680 No, no, no.

00:21:28.220 Don't say that to me.

00:21:29.400 It's like, you know, Rod Serling coming out and saying, nah, world's already too weird.

00:21:35.460 You can't come up with something.

00:21:37.460 Help us.

00:21:38.420 Help us.

00:21:39.120 How many times have we already?

00:21:40.560 Yeah.

00:21:40.780 How many times have we said that this stuff is actually already happening?

00:21:44.660 I mean, the social media credit score thing was one of those early episodes that China

00:21:49.300 is just in just doing right now.

00:21:51.100 Well, because he's not doing what Rod Serling did was less scientific.

00:21:57.720 You know, it was just more philosophical in nature.

00:22:00.940 This is this is he's a futurist.

00:22:04.620 What Black Mirror is showing us is a possible future.

00:22:08.700 Uh, and unfortunately for us now, time is moving so fast that a year after an episode airs

00:22:16.540 of Black Mirror, you're like, wait, I saw this one.

00:22:18.880 This is freaking me.

00:22:20.040 This is freaking me out a little bit.

00:22:21.880 Uh, and that's what he's saying.

00:22:23.900 We're already in this dystopian future, and I don't want to make things worse by depressing

00:22:28.980 people.

00:22:30.420 Uh, I don't think you're depressing people.

00:22:32.120 You're warning people.

00:22:33.800 Uh, you know, I've been saying some of the things on social, um, you know, about social

00:22:38.420 media and the social credit score for years.

00:22:41.300 Black Mirror got the word out much better than I did.

00:22:44.600 Please don't stop.

00:22:46.840 We have to discuss the future.

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00:24:28.860 Oh yeah, this is the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:31.760 Um, so yesterday I get a phone call from somebody on my staff and they said, uh, Glenn, uh, you

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00:24:45.200 She's the, the Zen psychologist.

00:24:48.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:49.820 Right.

00:24:50.180 She was the one who went to the, uh, she was a, uh, a lefty and she went to a Trump rally

00:24:57.560 because she didn't like being told, you know, what to do and she wanted to conquer her fear

00:25:02.340 and everything else.

00:25:03.000 And she found out that, wow, Trump people are really nice.

00:25:06.260 It's not like what everybody is saying that they are.

00:25:09.540 She's got a really, really great open mind.

00:25:11.780 When I talked to her on the air, I said, I think, I don't think you're, I think you're

00:25:15.780 actually joining our side.

00:25:17.000 I think you're come to the dock side.

00:25:19.160 Uh, and, uh, we laughed about it.

00:25:21.980 And so I thought, why is she calling?

00:25:24.420 She was calling because of what I said yesterday, apparently on the air about, uh, the Michigan

00:25:30.580 rally.

00:25:30.980 And I was warning people, please know that we are an image driven society.

00:25:37.020 Please.

00:25:37.980 If you're carrying something, if you're, that's why my things I've always said, please, no

00:25:42.920 signs, no signs, because the media will just latch on to one image and then it's over.

00:25:49.420 You have to be careful.

00:25:51.020 Don't drive, you know, up to these things with, uh, uh, with a firearm.

00:25:56.780 Just, you have the right to do it.

00:25:58.780 Yes, you do, but the media will latch onto those things and it will hurt you in the long

00:26:04.640 run.

00:26:04.880 So just be careful.

00:26:06.480 So when I got that call, I thought, okay, Carolyn, uh, she's, she didn't come to the

00:26:11.380 dock side.

00:26:12.080 She's back to her dock side.

00:26:14.560 No, not so much.

00:26:15.740 She actually wanted to correct me and make sure that I knew that these were really good

00:26:21.760 people at these protests.

00:26:23.580 Carolyn, welcome to the program.

00:26:25.520 Hi, Glenn.

00:26:26.340 Thank you.

00:26:26.680 And it's Carlin like George Carlin.

00:26:28.500 Oh, Carlin.

00:26:29.100 I'm sorry.

00:26:29.480 Sorry.

00:26:29.700 Sorry.

00:26:29.900 Carlin.

00:26:31.240 Uh, so, uh, uh, so, so what do I have the story?

00:26:35.340 Right?

00:26:36.660 Yeah.

00:26:36.940 Yeah.

00:26:37.460 Essentially.

00:26:37.900 So I ended up speaking to the organizers of the Michigan protest the other day on my

00:26:42.640 YouTube channel, just because I was fascinated with the whole thing.

00:26:45.540 And we had a great conversation and then just comparing what they said to what was in the

00:26:50.160 media.

00:26:50.820 There are some discrepancies.

00:26:53.280 I love you.

00:26:54.900 I absolutely love you.

00:26:57.800 I really do.

00:26:59.260 I think you're amazing.

00:27:01.400 Okay.

00:27:02.180 So what are the discrepancies?

00:27:04.240 I know of one, the guy who was, the guy who has, he's kind of balding and he's got

00:27:10.480 a big beard, uh, and he was photographed and it looks like he's yelling at the police,

00:27:15.960 but actually he's not yelling at the police.

00:27:19.580 Uh, is that right?

00:27:21.160 He's not yelling at the police at all.

00:27:22.840 He's yelling past the police because they're yelling into the room where the vote was taking

00:27:27.220 place.

00:27:27.640 And the entire goal of this rally was to make sure the legislature in Michigan voted not

00:27:33.080 to be able to, not to extend the governor's executive's order.

00:27:36.520 That was the whole goal.

00:27:37.640 And so they were yelling at them as they were taking the vote to vote.

00:27:41.100 No.

00:27:44.140 And that's not the way it was spun.

00:27:46.300 Okay.

00:27:46.880 So you say that there, you say that there are the things that maybe I or other conservatives

00:27:53.780 are doing, uh, that, uh, is we have wrong.

00:27:58.340 So tell, talk to the conservatives that, and me that may have it wrong.

00:28:03.320 Go ahead.

00:28:03.960 Yeah.

00:28:04.460 The, the biggest thing is that the entire rally was coordinated with law enforcement

00:28:09.280 from the very beginning.

00:28:10.640 So there's this, this perception that the police were put in danger.

00:28:13.940 Law enforcement was put in danger.

00:28:15.120 That's absolutely untrue.

00:28:16.460 The organizers of the rally coordinated with law enforcement, literally every step of the

00:28:20.860 way, leading up to the rally, the day before the rally, during the rally, they coordinated

00:28:24.780 with law enforcement to make sure there was a specific path kept open for the hospital

00:28:28.780 in case people needed to get there.

00:28:30.720 Permits were issued when they went into the Capitol building, their temperatures were taken.

00:28:35.260 It was all very orderly.

00:28:37.020 The militia folks that were there, the ones with the, the big guns, which I agree is not

00:28:41.440 the best, the best photo in the world.

00:28:42.940 But there are other photos that show that the police were actually like hanging out with

00:28:47.240 the militia guys and smiling.

00:28:48.700 So there wasn't an adversarial relationship.

00:28:51.260 Everyone was working together.

00:28:52.460 So I, so, so Carla, I want you to know that I don't believe there is an adversarial relationship

00:28:58.360 with the police.

00:28:59.440 I know these kinds of people.

00:29:01.700 I've, I've been doing this for a long time.

00:29:04.040 I know these kinds of people.

00:29:06.000 What I, I learned from Martin Luther King, that love is always the answer.

00:29:11.820 That's great.

00:29:12.580 These people are loving people for the most part.

00:29:15.960 I mean, there's creeps in every crowd, but these are families.

00:29:19.540 These are regular Americans that believe in good things and yada, yada, yada.

00:29:23.680 But the, what I'm always concerned about is the other thing I learned from Martin Luther

00:29:28.380 King.

00:29:29.560 It is an image that will destroy you.

00:29:32.820 It is one photograph that will destroy you.

00:29:35.640 It's the dogs barking, um, with really peaceful black people walking down the street that turned

00:29:43.280 America's head because there was no way to position that.

00:29:47.000 So I'm just concerned about the images.

00:29:49.780 King was very disciplined and it's hard with libertarians to say, okay, guys, we've got to

00:29:55.960 organize and have a set of rules.

00:29:57.600 It's like herding cats can't be done, but we have to have discipline to make sure because

00:30:03.500 we know how dishonest the press is.

00:30:05.540 We know how images will be used against us because it's been done before.

00:30:10.340 And, and I agree with everything that you just said, but I guess I'm going to push back

00:30:14.640 a little and say, at what point does the media have some responsibility?

00:30:17.740 And I'm talking to the conservative media now to make sure they are telling the full

00:30:22.560 and accurate story of what happened to push back against some of these misconceptions, because

00:30:27.400 I'm just a random person on the internet and I was able to tell this.

00:30:31.720 And so, so you guys have some responsibility as well.

00:30:34.960 I agree.

00:30:36.220 Carla, I absolutely agree with you.

00:30:38.560 And if I have let the audience down on that, I apologize.

00:30:41.900 And we will double our effort on it.

00:30:44.500 But I will tell you that listening to you talk, you will not be able to relate to this.

00:30:52.920 I have waited for you.

00:30:54.540 I was just listening to you give that first point.

00:30:56.800 And I thought to myself with a smile on my face, and I thought, I have waited for someone

00:31:03.540 like her for 15 years.

00:31:06.520 I have waited for, I really have, Carla, I really have.

00:31:11.000 And so has this audience.

00:31:12.560 You are somebody who is, you're not in lockstep with everything that I say or whatever.

00:31:19.620 You've come from the left and you just, you just want the truth.

00:31:24.900 We're not talking politics.

00:31:26.400 You just want the truth.

00:31:27.920 Your voice, until they discredit you, your voice brings a hope and an awful lot of credibility

00:31:38.020 because this is not your horse.

00:31:41.820 And so some of us have been beaten down by the press for so long and destroyed.

00:31:47.080 We have to, we want to make sure we're uber, uber careful because we're on the front line

00:31:54.060 of being, you will be soon, but we're on the front line of being attacked.

00:31:59.180 And we've learned our lesson in the past.

00:32:02.400 That doesn't mean we've given up the fight by any chance or any stretch of the imagination.

00:32:06.740 We're just more cautious on things because we know how fast one mistake will just absolutely

00:32:13.040 destroy you.

00:32:15.100 Does that make sense?

00:32:16.560 Yeah, it does.

00:32:17.800 I mean, and it's certainly a conversation I've had with so many conservatives over the past

00:32:21.920 several months.

00:32:22.780 And, you know, it's something that I hear.

00:32:25.220 And listen, I'm fully willing to step up and be a truth teller in this scenario.

00:32:29.840 But I simply hope that I'm not the only one that's telling the story of the regular Joes

00:32:35.100 that organized this rally because they wanted to do the right thing.

00:32:39.020 Yeah, you're absolutely not.

00:32:41.860 We have reached out to many of the organizers in different states.

00:32:45.260 I've got four people on today that are going to tell their story about what's going on.

00:32:49.880 So you're not alone.

00:32:52.020 Make sure you know that.

00:32:54.000 And if you ever feel alone, you call me.

00:32:56.820 I want you, my staff will give you, I don't have a phone.

00:32:59.560 So they'll give you a way to contact me personally.

00:33:03.040 They'll give you my private email address so you can contact me directly because you're

00:33:07.940 not alone.

00:33:08.780 You give me a lot of hope.

00:33:10.540 All right.

00:33:11.140 So the next thing that you think needs to be corrected.

00:33:16.680 Well, and the law enforcement was a big one.

00:33:19.200 Oh, another thing that I haven't heard talk about is that there were literally zero warnings

00:33:23.660 from law enforcement issued at this entire rally.

00:33:26.480 There was only one arrest that was made.

00:33:28.880 And, and Glenn, do you want to guess what the one arrest was at this rally?

00:33:32.840 Want to guess who it was?

00:33:35.540 No.

00:33:36.200 Go ahead.

00:33:36.940 Anna Fah.

00:33:37.640 It was a Democrat.

00:33:40.080 It was a Democrat.

00:33:41.760 It was protesting.

00:33:42.740 And what were they were, what were they arrested for?

00:33:45.000 What were they arrested for?

00:33:46.460 They were kicking people at the rally.

00:33:49.340 Oh my gosh.

00:33:51.380 Oh my gosh.

00:33:52.700 Was that, was that even reported anywhere?

00:33:55.700 I don't, I don't believe it was, but it's on my YouTube channel, the interview that I

00:33:59.420 did with them.

00:33:59.980 Um, and another thing, um, is, uh, the elected representatives, as they were taking the vote,

00:34:05.120 they were actually in communication with the people at the rally.

00:34:08.380 They were like texting back and forth because a guy at the rally knew the Senate majority

00:34:11.980 leader.

00:34:12.500 And so the people inside, I mean, I've seen these tweets come out basically saying, oh,

00:34:15.940 we were so scared of these people.

00:34:17.660 They knew what was going on.

00:34:19.360 They were coordinating and talking back and forth the whole time.

00:34:22.140 And so I have a really hard time believing that anyone was actually scared.

00:34:28.880 Carlin, I love you.

00:34:30.960 I do.

00:34:31.400 I just can't thank you enough, uh, for just being interested in the truth and, and being

00:34:40.120 brave enough to take on your own, your own circle.

00:34:45.640 I mean, nobody wants to be a pariah.

00:34:47.720 Nobody wants to have to recheck everything that they thought they believed in.

00:34:51.440 And it's a, it's a scary thing, but everyone should do that on both sides.

00:34:56.480 And you're, you're just a great example.

00:34:59.360 Just a great example for so many people.

00:35:01.200 Thank you.

00:35:01.700 Thank you.

00:35:02.120 Thank you.

00:35:02.700 You need anything.

00:35:04.200 You call me.

00:35:05.360 Well, I don't have a phone.

00:35:06.080 You write me.

00:35:07.380 Thank you so much, Brian.

00:35:08.620 I'll take you up on it.

00:35:10.540 Please do.

00:35:11.380 I mean it sincerely.

00:35:12.580 Hang on.

00:35:13.040 They'll give you my private email address.

00:35:14.820 Thank you so much.

00:35:16.160 Um, uh, that's a Dr.

00:35:18.040 Carlin Borisenko, who I love.

00:35:22.020 Can I have your private email address?

00:35:24.440 Nope.

00:35:25.620 Cannot have it.

00:35:27.220 Maybe after 30 years.

00:35:28.660 You know how many people have it?

00:35:29.840 Yeah.

00:35:30.180 She, she has no idea.

00:35:31.540 There's people I've known for a long time.

00:35:33.660 Do not have my private email address.

00:35:35.400 Yeah.

00:35:35.760 The doctor should probably know.

00:35:36.880 You might actually answer her emails too.

00:35:38.700 Well, that would be amazing.

00:35:40.140 Everyone in the company would be like, wow.

00:35:42.820 I made some mistakes.

00:35:44.520 I gave some people my private email address like Stu and he writes and I'm like, I don't

00:35:48.820 know.

00:35:50.600 All these words.

00:35:52.040 What am I?

00:35:52.520 All these words I have to read, please.

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00:37:52.160 Uh, the unemployment numbers, uh, are coming out today for the first time, uh, unemployment benefits filers.

00:38:03.780 Uh, what is the number today?

00:38:06.140 Five, eight.

00:38:07.220 The unemployment rate currently?

00:38:10.040 Or are you talking about the, uh, the, uh, no, no, no.

00:38:11.760 The, the, the numbers.

00:38:13.000 So five and a half million, five.

00:38:14.560 3.2 million today filed for the first time.

00:38:17.020 Oh, 3.2.

00:38:17.660 Which is the lowest it's been in several weeks.

00:38:20.320 Um, what, what would also be one of the top six or seven of all time.

00:38:24.820 So.

00:38:26.340 It's not good.

00:38:27.360 No, not really.

00:38:28.840 It's not good.

00:38:29.560 I tried to break the fall by saying it was a five or over five.

00:38:33.680 So then three, eight, you're like, oh my gosh, that's good.

00:38:35.600 That's great.

00:38:36.960 Yeah.

00:38:37.360 That's fantastic.

00:38:38.960 Uh, you know, remember we were, we were adding jobs.

00:38:41.880 Uh, now we're just shedding jobs like crazy tomorrow.

00:38:45.460 The actual unemployment number comes out, uh, for April, but it doesn't include all of the weeks.

00:38:51.740 Right.

00:38:52.020 It doesn't take us up to this last number or the number before, right?

00:38:55.920 You get a few weeks of April, but not the entire month.

00:38:58.660 Uh, there's a lot of estimates out there now that people believe states.

00:39:03.680 Many states have 25 plus percent unemployment rates.

00:39:07.560 This, the actual unemployment rate of the country might be right now in the, in the mid twenties,

00:39:13.580 uh, 23, 24, something like that.

00:39:15.820 We don't know.

00:39:16.820 We're not going to see that's a number.

00:39:18.040 No, it shouldn't be that high tomorrow.

00:39:19.460 We don't think because it's not going to include the whole month of April, which is going to

00:39:23.260 be the most disastrous month in theory of this, uh, of this situation.

00:39:27.140 So we might see, we might see, uh, an unemployment rate of what are they projecting?

00:39:33.480 I would, I would imagine 13 to 15%.

00:39:36.380 Uh, and then, uh, but that's, that's still, according to the way we used to measure in

00:39:42.940 world war two, uh, the shadow stat number is currently about 27% unemployment in the country.

00:39:49.700 Uh, and you have, you have now these temporary layoffs turning permanent all across America,

00:39:56.860 uh, nearly half of the, uh, small businesses in America, 52% of American small businesses

00:40:05.360 expected to close within six months.

00:40:07.960 New survey society for human resource management found 52% of small businesses expect to be

00:40:15.520 out of business within the next six months.

00:40:19.440 Uh, they just say that they've just been, they've just been wiped out and they're holding

00:40:23.820 on, but they don't think with, without opening things back up, they're going to, they're going

00:40:28.360 to be able to do it.

00:40:29.460 This is, this is the, this is the real problem is not only do we, uh, have these draconian

00:40:37.560 measures now, uh, how long do they last?

00:40:41.540 Businesses cannot operate at 25% capacity.

00:40:44.420 I mean, it's, you're just prolonging the, the problem.

00:40:48.560 Uh, and even if people opens things up right now, how many of us are just going to go back

00:40:53.740 out into the mall and shopping and, you know, being crowded restaurants.

00:40:58.000 I mean, most of us won't do it.

00:40:59.720 Uh, so, you know, again, the thing we have to fear is fear itself.

00:41:04.900 Uh, it's a real problem.

00:41:08.040 And if you think America has had the shock from this, we're not even close.

00:41:15.080 We're not even close to the effects that we are going to see, especially as we begin to

00:41:20.160 open things back up six months from now, a year from now, I don't think you're going

00:41:24.720 to recognize the way things are in our country.

00:41:34.260 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

00:41:39.860 Hello, America.

00:41:42.160 It's Thursday.

00:41:43.720 We've got a, an absolutely jam packed hour for you.

00:41:48.440 You're going to love, we're going to talk a little bit about Abraham Lincoln.

00:41:51.520 Uh, Brad Meltzer is, uh, with us.

00:41:53.920 The Lincoln Conspiracy is his new book.

00:41:56.480 It's probably a story you've never heard before.

00:41:58.640 It's just fantastic.

00:42:00.880 Uh, the secret plot to kill Abraham Lincoln, but, uh, Lincoln comes to mind at this point.

00:42:06.340 We're probably facing the biggest crisis that we have faced since World War II or the Civil

00:42:11.940 War.

00:42:12.940 Uh, and I'd like to get his perspective on that.

00:42:15.700 Also, coming up in just a few minutes, we have the Attorney General of Texas, a guy I

00:42:21.360 absolutely love, Ken Paxton.

00:42:24.300 He is outraged at what happened with the salon owner where she went to jail here in Dallas,

00:42:32.080 Texas.

00:42:32.920 He put a strong message out yesterday.

00:42:36.720 Now he's in trouble with all of the judges of Texas.

00:42:39.860 They don't, don't you try to intimidate us?

00:42:41.740 I don't think that's what he was doing.

00:42:43.160 He was just calling this particular judge stupid.

00:42:47.020 We talked to him coming up in just a few minutes.

00:42:50.900 Don't miss a second.

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00:42:54.860 All right.

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00:44:33.120 Brad Meltzer is a good friend of mine.

00:44:36.800 Uh, I don't know if we even need to introduce him, but he is the author of a,

00:44:41.960 new book called the Lincoln conspiracy, the secret plot.

00:44:46.020 Anytime that Brad Meltzer is on, it is always a tour de force, uh, of history.

00:44:52.920 Welcome Brad.

00:44:53.860 How are you?

00:44:55.120 I'm good, my friend.

00:44:56.000 How are you doing?

00:44:57.400 Uh, very good.

00:44:58.360 Very good.

00:44:59.060 Uh, I, uh, I brought a couple of things in, uh, on Lincoln that I thought you might appreciate.

00:45:04.960 I knew you were going to do that.

00:45:06.540 I knew you were going to do it.

00:45:07.560 I know.

00:45:08.620 Oh, I give a, give a hint somewhere in the room, in the studio,

00:45:11.940 today for anybody who's playing our game, you know, Glenn studio, there is a Lincoln,

00:45:16.500 uh, artifact, uh, behind me that if you guess what it is, you win a copy of my new book.

00:45:21.840 Um, but, uh, this I brought with me is a piece of Abraham Lincoln's coat.

00:45:27.580 It is actually the collar that he was wearing, uh, that night, uh, that he was shot and finally

00:45:34.460 killed.

00:45:34.900 Um, you can see the rest of the jacket at Ford's theater, but it's missing its collar.

00:45:41.240 And this is the missing piece that somebody, uh, caught off of him, uh, that night, which

00:45:47.080 is awful.

00:45:48.500 He was, he was, I've seen the cuffs under the shirt.

00:45:51.320 The cuffs are in a military museum out in Maryland.

00:45:53.960 Uh, but yes, the jackets obviously at Ford's theater.

00:45:56.440 So it's all these different pieces make up the whole.

00:45:58.520 It's incredible.

00:45:59.820 Yeah.

00:46:00.300 And it's, it's weird, Brad, how, uh, they treated him even as he was dying, but we'll,

00:46:07.820 we'll get into that maybe some other time.

00:46:09.120 Cause you're going to tell a story that most people don't know, uh, in the Lincoln conspiracy.

00:46:14.280 And it's one of my favorite Lincoln stories.

00:46:18.360 Tell me.

00:46:19.020 Yeah, we, we all know the story of John Wilkes Booth ending Lincoln's presidency, but this

00:46:25.800 is the story of the first secret plot to kill Abraham Lincoln at the very start, because

00:46:30.800 in order to be sworn in as America's 16th president, as you know, Lincoln had to take

00:46:35.340 a train from his home in Springfield, Illinois to Washington, DC.

00:46:39.160 And the only way to get there was to go through Baltimore, but Maryland at the time was a slave

00:46:45.260 state.

00:46:45.900 So the plan was simple.

00:46:47.240 A secret society planned to ambush Lincoln when he came through Baltimore and end his presidency

00:46:52.820 before it even began.

00:46:54.360 And this is the story and it's all true.

00:46:56.360 All really happened.

00:46:57.100 This is the true story of, uh, this secret conspiracy that very few people even know existed.

00:47:04.140 So tell me the story.

00:47:05.520 Cause Lincoln was like the, what is it?

00:47:09.200 53rd vote of the Republican party, uh, at their convention.

00:47:14.720 Uh, it was, uh, a, uh, what do you call it?

00:47:18.000 Uh, uh, the convention we've been thinking of it was coming for the Democrats.

00:47:22.260 The kind where that you don't have a nominee.

00:47:24.560 So you have to go into vote, uh, over and over and over again until you get a consensus

00:47:29.040 to, to nominate your, your, your, your, the, the final nominee, uh, a brokered convention.

00:47:34.520 It's like 52nd vote was for Abraham Lincoln.

00:47:38.520 Uh, and then, and people didn't, I mean, they didn't know who he was when you did know who

00:47:43.980 he was.

00:47:44.620 He looked on the, he was described at the time as uncouth, uh, and, and grotesque.

00:47:50.560 He was, he was described as ugly flat.

00:47:52.780 They said no politics has ever been uglier.

00:47:55.460 They were ruthless.

00:47:56.380 And as you said, they had, they, they, Glenn, they didn't know who he was.

00:48:00.320 We found an old campaign poster and someone, and it literally says vote for Abram Lincoln.

00:48:05.920 They spelled his name wrong on his own poster.

00:48:09.140 That's how little they know.

00:48:09.940 So when he gets to Baltimore, he doesn't, he doesn't even know how split the country

00:48:18.440 is.

00:48:18.900 He, he doesn't know how hated he is already and how close the country is to just full

00:48:26.060 on civil war.

00:48:27.540 Right.

00:48:28.140 I mean, they give, you know, it is an incredible time in America and, and as he's making this

00:48:33.440 ride, I mean, this is, he is truly, he's three days after he's elected three days is how much

00:48:40.320 time they give him.

00:48:41.060 South Carolina passes a resolution saying we're seceding from the union.

00:48:44.680 So the hate mail starts pouring in.

00:48:47.980 And as they're starting, they, they have no idea how the culture is split into.

00:48:53.060 And that's why he wrote this book is it's this time in American politics where you see

00:48:56.820 the culture split into, you see that whatever side you're on, you hate the other side.

00:49:01.720 You think the other side of complete horrible people, does that sound familiar to you, Glenn?

00:49:05.460 Right.

00:49:05.660 It's like exactly where we are right now.

00:49:08.000 And it's why you see what a great leader does in that situation.

00:49:11.460 You know, is this Lincoln tries to, with all his power, not to divide us, but to unite us

00:49:16.080 even in the midst of this plot to murder him.

00:49:19.180 And, and one of my favorite scenes is, you know, there's a train in the middle of the night,

00:49:23.200 the train, it's a speeding train filled with passengers.

00:49:26.460 And we're looking at four of them in particular.

00:49:28.400 There's two businessmen, there's a woman, and she has an invalid brother, but none of

00:49:34.120 them are who they say they are.

00:49:35.820 So the businessman is actually Alan Pinkerton, famous detective, head of the Pinkerton Detective

00:49:41.220 Agency.

00:49:42.300 The woman is Kate Warren.

00:49:43.940 She's America's first female private eye.

00:49:46.340 And her so-called brother isn't her brother.

00:49:48.380 And he's certainly not an invalid.

00:49:49.740 That's Abraham Lincoln.

00:49:50.880 They put him in a disguise.

00:49:52.260 They've given him a secret code name.

00:49:53.840 And they're whisking him away to make sure the secret society doesn't get him.

00:49:58.360 And, you know, I just ruined chapter one of the Lincoln conspiracy, but that's okay

00:50:01.500 for you, right?

00:50:02.060 I mean, like, it's an unbelievable scene.

00:50:06.000 Yeah, it is.

00:50:07.480 What's incredible is, and maybe you would know this, did they make him an invalid?

00:50:12.520 Because I know as they snuck him out of a theater, you'll have to excuse me, you're

00:50:17.180 fresh on the research.

00:50:18.120 This is years ago, my research.

00:50:20.060 So correct me when I'm wrong, but they brought him into a theater and then snuck him out

00:50:25.280 to the back and they told him, you got to take the hat off and hunch down.

00:50:30.740 And they put like a shawl over him and he had him hunched down because he was so tall.

00:50:36.320 Okay.

00:50:36.420 Yeah.

00:50:36.600 Well, that's the thing is, you know, he is six, four.

00:50:39.440 No one had even seen, if you lived in America at that time, you didn't, you didn't know anyone

00:50:43.760 six, four.

00:50:44.540 It's like trying to hide LeBron James today.

00:50:46.760 And so, yeah, they have to hunch him over it.

00:50:48.740 It's one of my favorite scenes in the whole book is when they tell him, listen, they're

00:50:53.020 coming to kill you.

00:50:53.800 We got to get you out of here.

00:50:55.520 And basically he's in this hotel room in the middle of the night.

00:50:58.440 He's exhausted.

00:50:59.220 And they say to him, listen, in Philadelphia, and you're going to, I want to tell a story

00:51:02.040 just for you, because you're going to love this part of it is, uh, they tell him you

00:51:07.280 have an event in Philadelphia tomorrow.

00:51:09.460 We got to make you skip the event.

00:51:11.040 We're going to get you to DC earlier.

00:51:12.860 And Lincoln says, I'm not missing the event in Philadelphia.

00:51:15.520 And they're like, what's in Philadelphia?

00:51:16.780 And the reason Lincoln won't miss the event in Philadelphia is because the next day in

00:51:21.940 Philadelphia, they are honoring the birthday of one of Lincoln's most favorite heroes,

00:51:26.840 a man named George Washington.

00:51:29.200 And no way is George Washington.

00:51:31.560 I know he's one of your heroes.

00:51:32.720 Well, of course, one of mine.

00:51:34.160 We've talked about it at length.

00:51:35.120 Like no way is Lincoln missing honoring George Washington.

00:51:38.500 And we found the actual speech that Lincoln gives.

00:51:40.600 He goes to Philly the next day, even though it means risking his life.

00:51:43.080 And he gives this speech and the speech is at Independence Hall.

00:51:46.880 He's talking about the beauty of the declaration, giving everyone an equal chance.

00:51:50.600 And Lincoln says, if we can't save the country without that principle, and he pauses and he

00:51:56.840 says, I was about to say, I would rather be assassinated on this spot than surrender.

00:52:02.420 And what I love is that in that moment, Abraham Lincoln absolutely knows there's a plot to

00:52:09.140 kill him when he says, assassinate me on this spot.

00:52:11.580 And it's right after that, that, as you said perfectly, you picked it right up, is they

00:52:16.860 whisk him right out of there.

00:52:17.840 We won't ruin how and how they sneak him out.

00:52:19.820 But that's when they sneak him out of there and get to save his life.

00:52:22.880 I did not know that part of the story.

00:52:26.320 That is a great part of the story.

00:52:28.700 Yeah, no, that's the one we found.

00:52:30.040 I was proud of that one.

00:52:30.840 That Washington, that Washington one was like, oh, my gosh, it's all coming together.

00:52:34.800 Do you include anything on Charles Stone, Charles Pomeroy Stone?

00:52:40.960 Yeah, Charles Stone is in the book.

00:52:44.240 And I'm trying to remember what we put on there.

00:52:47.680 He is an army officer and he's the inspector.

00:52:49.920 I think the inspector general of Washington, D.C.

00:52:52.380 And he has some testimony at the time, because what happens is as they're trying to find

00:52:57.640 this plot, as you know, and I love that I'm talking to you who knows the answer, but they

00:53:01.720 have a secret committee.

00:53:03.820 It's called the Committee of Five.

00:53:05.240 And, you know, to try and find out what this plot is and the real name that they give to

00:53:10.700 it is the Treason Committee.

00:53:11.980 They want to know who it is.

00:53:13.880 And one of the people that they bring, you know, Charles Stone is there, but they bring in

00:53:18.340 there is a guy named Cipriano Ferrandini.

00:53:20.560 And he is the leader of the secret society that's plotting to kill Lincoln.

00:53:26.540 And it's one of my favorite lines in the book.

00:53:28.460 They say they finally have Cipriano Ferrandini exactly where they want him, under oath.

00:53:33.120 And he looks up at these congressmen and they say to him, you know, hey, Ferrandini is a

00:53:39.000 barber of all things.

00:53:40.500 And he's a barber in a Baltimore fancy hotel.

00:53:42.920 You go into the basement of this hotel.

00:53:44.940 You whisper the right password.

00:53:46.840 You whisper the right code word.

00:53:48.680 And he will potentially tell you the secret plot to kill Abraham Lincoln.

00:53:52.340 These are the men that they're trying to catch.

00:53:54.320 And they lie under oath.

00:53:56.420 The Congress, I mean, it's like almost no different than today.

00:53:58.360 Congress has them right there, but just doesn't ask the right questions, doesn't ask if he

00:54:03.160 knows anyone.

00:54:03.820 Everyone's kind of turning their heads and they all walk out.

00:54:07.140 And it's Congress completely ineffectual to catching anybody.

00:54:10.980 It takes Alan Pinkerton and the Pinkerton detectives to save the day.

00:54:17.580 Do you know the the rest of the story with Charles Pomeroy Stone?

00:54:21.800 The reason why I ask is because he played a role in the, you know, the first assassination,

00:54:28.520 helping Lincoln during the first assassination.

00:54:31.660 But he he later plays a very important role in American history.

00:54:37.980 Do you do you know that?

00:54:39.540 I don't.

00:54:40.220 I know the first one.

00:54:41.160 You know his story?

00:54:41.500 The one who testifies that it's real.

00:54:42.880 I don't know the end of the story.

00:54:44.280 What's what happens at the end?

00:54:45.200 OK, so so he goes to the fight in the Civil War.

00:54:50.900 He is a guy who does not hate the South.

00:54:54.140 He's more like Lincoln.

00:54:55.620 He doesn't hate the South.

00:54:56.960 He just wants the Civil War to end.

00:54:59.080 So he's fighting on the northern side, but he's not.

00:55:02.380 He he refuses to engage in the, you know, I hate him.

00:55:06.060 I hate him.

00:55:06.440 I hate him.

00:55:06.840 And this pisses a lot of the people on the north on North off.

00:55:10.840 And he's set up by Congress to look like he was the cause of of this huge disaster in the battle.

00:55:20.120 But he wasn't even near it.

00:55:22.300 Congress takes him.

00:55:23.300 They try him in Congress.

00:55:24.760 They they don't really even they don't give him a chance to respond.

00:55:29.700 He's arrested, but he's arrested without charge.

00:55:32.700 He's held in prison.

00:55:34.900 Lincoln finds out about it.

00:55:36.340 And it's like six months he's been in prison.

00:55:38.980 And Lincoln says, stop it right now.

00:55:41.580 Release him and release anybody without charge, you know, or you're in trouble.

00:55:47.120 And they didn't.

00:55:48.880 They waited another three months.

00:55:51.180 Finally, they finally release him.

00:55:53.680 He's so discouraged.

00:55:55.720 He can't his job or his name is is is another Lincoln reference mud.

00:56:01.260 He can't.

00:56:03.100 Yeah, he can't.

00:56:05.120 He can't find any work.

00:56:06.420 He is disgusted by the people that, you know, his country betrayed him.

00:56:10.660 He goes overseas.

00:56:11.280 He's in Egypt.

00:56:12.480 He does work over in Egypt for the French.

00:56:16.700 He finally comes home in the 1870s, I think, late 1870s.

00:56:21.900 And there's a knock on his door and it's the government.

00:56:25.000 And they said, did you work with the French?

00:56:28.040 And they said, yes.

00:56:28.900 And he said, why, what do you need?

00:56:32.000 And they say, your country needs you.

00:56:34.100 We just got this box of stuff and all of the instructions are in French and we don't know how to put it together.

00:56:40.820 Would you build the base for the Statue of Liberty and help us build the Statue of Liberty?

00:56:47.160 Fantastic.

00:56:48.740 Yeah.

00:56:49.140 Isn't that great?

00:56:49.800 Yeah.

00:56:50.060 I mean, that's a guy who would betray.

00:56:52.000 Those stories we love.

00:56:52.420 Those lost stories are so vital.

00:56:54.820 I mean, and listen, we all know.

00:56:57.100 And, you know, listen, we filled the book with them, of course.

00:56:59.300 Like, we all know the story of Abraham Lincoln at the end of his life.

00:57:03.020 If I woke any American up in the middle of the night, 3 a.m., and I said, tell me about Abraham Lincoln, they were blurred out.

00:57:08.460 Free the slaves.

00:57:09.580 You know, Emancipation Proclamation, Toppat, Log Cabin, all the cliches we know.

00:57:14.240 What I love is this is the book has, when you read the Lincoln Conspiracy, it has Lincoln at the beginning of his presidency.

00:57:21.420 So you see him making mistakes.

00:57:23.420 You see him doubting himself.

00:57:24.960 When he gets the nomination for the presidency, you know where he is?

00:57:28.040 He's in an alleyway in the newspaper building playing handball, of all things, being a regular guy.

00:57:34.680 When he goes to leave and he wins the presidency and he has to leave Illinois, one of the last things he does is he goes back to his home.

00:57:43.540 He wants to see his father's grave, which I know to you and I is, you know, hits you right in the heart.

00:57:48.020 And then he wants to see his stepmom, who's still alive, who he adores.

00:57:51.680 There's this beautiful moment where he found a recollection of someone who was there.

00:57:55.280 And Abraham Lincoln walks into his stepmother's house.

00:57:57.860 He's so physically big.

00:57:59.320 His stepmother's in a rocking chair.

00:58:01.140 He puts his arm, leans down, puts his arms around her and hugs her in and the entire chair as she sits in it.

00:58:07.760 She starts crying.

00:58:08.920 He supposedly starts crying.

00:58:10.500 And when he leaves her to go to the White House, she says, I'm worried that he's going to be assassinated.

00:58:18.340 I'm never going to see him again.

00:58:19.540 And she's absolutely right.

00:58:21.600 And when you see Abraham Lincoln in those human, normal moments, you know, one of the mistakes we make with our heroes in the culture is we build these great, amazing monuments to them.

00:58:32.280 And then we worship there and we do them a huge disservice because we forget they're human beings just like us.

00:58:37.620 And whoever you look up to, whether it's Abraham Lincoln, whether it's Rosa Parks or George Washington, they have moments where they were scared and terrified and didn't think they could go on.

00:58:47.680 But they do.

00:58:48.600 To see Abraham Lincoln in the book, they lose the inaugural address.

00:58:51.620 He's so disorganized.

00:58:52.560 He's doubted himself at all times.

00:58:53.900 And he's just like us.

00:58:55.440 We are all of us, Glenn.

00:58:56.600 You know, especially right now, we are all terrified and brave.

00:59:01.000 We are all cowards and we are all strong.

00:59:03.780 Some of us in the same day, some of us within the same minute.

00:59:06.800 And I think, you know, what I am so proud of when it comes to this book is being able to share that Abraham Lincoln is just like the rest of us.

00:59:15.120 All right, Brad, hang on, because I want to ask you one question related to today and what's going on with Abraham Lincoln.

00:59:21.360 And back with Brad Meltzer, the Lincoln Conspiracy is the book and it is it's Brad Meltzer.

00:59:27.820 It's just fantastic.

00:59:29.460 You're going to learn so much on American history.

00:59:32.300 And it's a great read.

00:59:33.780 The Lincoln Conspiracy.

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01:00:58.660 Brad Meltzer is with us.

01:01:08.660 So, Brad, I've been painting.

01:01:10.680 I don't know if you know this about me, but I'm a I'm a painter and I've painted a few people, Native American, Mao, Churchill, wearing a mask.

01:01:22.280 And I painted a Lincoln with a mask on it.

01:01:25.700 And I'm painting it because I think these guys are the last people to wear masks.

01:01:29.820 I find humor in it.

01:01:30.780 But people are not taking them that way.

01:01:33.080 They're taking them like Lincoln would never have worn a mask.

01:01:36.420 I just I'm about 50 percent done with this Washington.

01:01:40.940 And everybody is tweeting me going to do not put a mask on him.

01:01:45.440 My question is a historian.

01:01:47.500 How do you think these guys would have handled this?

01:01:49.720 Do you think they would have been doing all this?

01:01:52.300 We have one minute.

01:01:52.980 Yeah. You know, the one thing I think about Abraham Lincoln is that everyone is like, Abraham Lincoln would have stood for this.

01:02:00.760 He would have fought back.

01:02:01.560 He would have.

01:02:02.280 Abraham Lincoln rarely met anything with a fist.

01:02:05.500 Abraham Lincoln met things with his head.

01:02:08.020 And I obviously I think people are taking a bit too literally here.

01:02:12.120 Right.

01:02:12.480 I mean, it's not a literal thing he has to do.

01:02:15.400 You're making a statement.

01:02:16.220 And we need people to make statements about where we are right now.

01:02:19.540 And the fact you're getting a rise means you're doing something right.

01:02:23.040 It means you're touching people in a good way, making them think.

01:02:26.380 And I think Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, if anything, they want people to think that is a good thing, not a bad thing.

01:02:34.800 Brad Meltzer.

01:02:35.760 Thank you so much for being on the program.

01:02:37.600 God bless you.

01:02:38.060 We'll talk to you again, my friend, Brad Meltzer dot com.

01:02:40.760 The name of the book is The Lincoln Conspiracy, The Secret Plot to Kill America's 16th President and why it failed.

01:02:48.560 This is as he was getting into office, not his last thing in office.

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01:04:31.120 So, you might know the story of the Dallas salon owner.

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01:04:38.100 And she went back to work because, well, let's play the audio of her before the judge, what, yesterday or the day before.

01:04:47.580 Here's what she said to the judge after he said, I'm going to punish you in jail unless you apologize and close your shop.

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01:04:57.000 Judge, I would like to say that I have much respect for this court and laws.

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01:05:21.880 I have hairstylists that are going hungry because they'd rather feed their kids.

01:05:26.960 So, sir, if you think the law is more important than kids getting fed, then please go ahead with your decision.

01:05:34.640 But I am not going to shut the salon.

01:05:37.800 This is this is a civil rights moment.

01:05:40.420 This is a new civil rights movement.

01:05:44.460 These these are unelected officials making dictates.

01:05:49.500 And, you know, there's one thing to say, hey, we really recommend this and we really want you to do this.

01:05:55.560 And another with giving you either as they're doing now in California, they're not putting you in jail.

01:06:01.980 They're they're giving you absolutely crippling fines or taking away your business license.

01:06:08.480 So you're done.

01:06:09.400 You're just out.

01:06:10.300 There's no place to go.

01:06:11.480 So Ken Paxton, who is the attorney general of the great state of Texas yesterday, came out and he was, I'd say, pretty darn strong on on his stance.

01:06:26.960 He put out a letter along with Greg Abbott and and basically basically took the judge and what's going on apart.

01:06:37.880 We have Ken Paxton on with us now, the attorney general of the great state of Texas and a friend.

01:06:44.080 Hello, Ken.

01:06:44.680 How are you?

01:06:45.680 Hey, Glenn, I'm doing well.

01:06:46.640 How are you?

01:06:47.780 I'm very good.

01:06:48.880 All right.

01:06:49.260 I'm glad to hear when I saw your tweet yesterday.

01:06:52.100 I was so happy to hear that you were you were on the side of common sense.

01:06:58.700 Tell me your stance, because you're now getting heat from judges.

01:07:02.420 So tell me what you what you said yesterday about this whole thing.

01:07:05.540 I just said, you know, this is ridiculous.

01:07:09.460 It's outrageous that a woman who went out to work who needs an income was put in jail.

01:07:16.420 And I understand there are orders relating to this and and maybe consequences that, you know, happen to people.

01:07:22.580 But putting someone in jail, especially in light of Dallas County releasing or wanting to release, you know, criminals who have been convicted because they're afraid they're going to get Corona.

01:07:32.020 And now you're putting a woman in a jail where where she could get Corona.

01:07:35.540 So it makes no sense to me.

01:07:37.700 You wrote the trial judge did not need to lock up Shelley Luther.

01:07:41.840 His order is shameful abuse of judicial discretion, which seems like another political stunt in Dallas.

01:07:48.160 He should release her immediately.

01:07:49.820 I hope he'll listen to that.

01:07:52.600 I hope that he'll come to his senses.

01:07:54.720 I think these judges are all banding together in Dallas County to criticize my statements.

01:08:00.700 But look, this is a I mean, this is just a regular citizen.

01:08:03.960 She did not.

01:08:04.840 She didn't go out and shoplift in Dallas, which is not a crime there, apparently.

01:08:09.800 And it's not committed any kind of crime.

01:08:12.280 So I don't I do not think she should be in prison.

01:08:14.960 Ken, where do we the governor is in a just a heck of a spot and I know Greg Abbott and I respect him.

01:08:27.820 So I give him a lot of of room here, mainly because I would not want to be in his position.

01:08:34.820 He loses either way.

01:08:36.920 If he does nothing, he loses.

01:08:40.060 If he does too much, he loses.

01:08:42.340 For some people, if he does anything, he loses.

01:08:45.760 So there's no place for him to go.

01:08:48.120 How do we balance this?

01:08:50.780 I mean, me and a lot of other people think the governors and the president and the mayors should come out and say, look, this these are the scientific facts.

01:09:02.100 You need to stay home.

01:09:03.560 We're not going to throw anybody in jail, but you need to stay home.

01:09:08.800 Please let's do this together.

01:09:10.860 Otherwise, if you make it an edict, you're violating all of my civil rights.

01:09:18.780 Yeah, I think you make a really good point.

01:09:21.400 One, we don't have like a model to look at.

01:09:24.900 We haven't been through this before.

01:09:26.040 There's nobody that knows how to do it right.

01:09:27.820 And everybody's there's not a single governor, whether they have good motors, bad motors, who's going to get this 100 percent right and get the balance between protecting health and safety versus protecting people's ability to make a living and what impact that has on their lives.

01:09:43.200 And so I think we should do the least amount that we can do to protect people's lives.

01:09:50.460 And so I think the governor, you know, he's struggling with that balance and he's trying to he's trying to get there.

01:09:55.100 And, you know, we're going to, I think, be one of the faster states that moves towards opening up and letting people work and letting let it be individual decisions about.

01:10:03.100 Because I think people are educated now, they know they've been sufficiently scared about the coronavirus.

01:10:09.640 And I think they should now be making their own decisions about what risk they want to take based on their own health situation and their age.

01:10:17.020 And they're absolutely responsible for themselves.

01:10:19.740 You know, I use this example, I use this example last hour that my church moved to close down services before any state or government did anything.

01:10:34.580 They said, we're going to cancel all services, you know, do your services at home, blah, blah, blah.

01:10:39.060 And they pass that.

01:10:40.600 Now in Illinois, the governor is saying you may not go to church for the next year.

01:10:46.240 We may close churches down.

01:10:48.120 Well, wait a minute.

01:10:49.240 I think this is a churches are responsible for their flock.

01:10:54.380 And, you know, there are some crazy people out there.

01:10:56.900 But there's there's, you know, churches that will say we're going to do services limited to this or we're not going to do services.

01:11:03.860 And then each individual should be allowed to choose from there.

01:11:06.700 Where does the state get its power to do these things?

01:11:10.020 I don't think they have the power.

01:11:11.700 If you'll notice in Texas, we never said that.

01:11:14.220 And Governor Abbott put churches as an essential business with the list that the federal government had given us.

01:11:21.680 There were 16 essential businesses.

01:11:23.220 And he added this one.

01:11:25.320 And I think rightfully so.

01:11:26.800 There are special protections for First Amendment under the Constitution.

01:11:30.360 And so you can't go and restrict churches the way you can restrict other things.

01:11:35.100 And so I think we've we've made the right call.

01:11:37.320 And I think in the end, look, people need help.

01:11:40.140 There's a lot of people that are suffering right now because they've lost their jobs and they've gone through difficult times, health situations.

01:11:46.100 And they're going to need spiritual leaders in their lives.

01:11:49.380 And so we don't need to be telling from a from a state position or any government saying you can't meet.

01:11:55.420 And I know other states have done that.

01:11:56.680 Kentucky, the governor there was taking down license plates of people at church, you know, apparently wanting to record that information to somehow use it against them.

01:12:05.280 That's just not right.

01:12:06.200 I have to ask you a question.

01:12:10.540 Greg Abbott just tweeted throwing Texans in jail whose businesses shut down through no fault of their own is wrong.

01:12:18.360 I'm eliminating jail for violating an order retroactive to April 2nd, superseding all local orders.

01:12:27.460 Criminals shouldn't be released to prevent covid-19 just to put business owners in their place.

01:12:34.540 Your reaction.

01:12:36.200 God bless Greg Abbott.

01:12:38.120 That was a great move on his part.

01:12:40.620 I think he he saw what happened to Shelley Luther and he's responded in a responsible, appropriate way.

01:12:49.240 And I say, God bless Greg Abbott.

01:12:50.720 And please, I beg this judge, let this woman out of jail.

01:12:54.680 She should not be there.

01:12:56.960 This judge.

01:12:58.020 Can you said it in your tweet yesterday?

01:13:00.120 I think the guy is I think the guy's ego was bruised by her when he said, you know,

01:13:05.920 that she had what was it maligned or or something, something ridiculous about you defiled his order, defiled his order by tearing it in half and demanded an apology.

01:13:19.460 This is absolutely out of control.

01:13:23.320 I agree with you.

01:13:24.380 I think it got personal for him.

01:13:25.740 And I think he took it personally.

01:13:27.640 And that's why he reacted by overreacted by instead of just merely giving her a fine.

01:13:35.060 And I don't think anybody would have said anything about that, whether they agree.

01:13:37.960 You know, people might disagree, but not to the extent of putting a woman in jail who's just trying to do her job.

01:13:43.460 So let me ask you on Greg's on the governor's order here.

01:13:50.560 You responded by saying, please, judge, please do this.

01:13:57.320 Does does the governor have the right to say I'm canceling all of all of these convictions and they're to be released?

01:14:06.880 Or do the judges have to agree with him?

01:14:10.060 How is this going to work?

01:14:11.440 So it's going to be interesting.

01:14:12.200 So, yes, the governor's order supersedes any county order that would be different than what he just ordered.

01:14:19.260 The question here is, it wasn't the county or state or the city that really put her in jail.

01:14:25.940 It was this judge.

01:14:26.920 And it was a contempt order.

01:14:28.680 So I don't know.

01:14:31.120 My guess is that the judge could still keep her in jail, despite the fact that now, you know, retroactively, everything has been wiped out.

01:14:40.080 Holy cow.

01:14:40.940 But he also had an order earlier this week that opened up haircuts starting tomorrow.

01:14:44.840 So, you know, potentially she could still be sitting in jail, despite the fact that there's nothing wrong with it now.

01:14:50.840 All of the penalties of being in jail have been wiped out both across the state.

01:14:55.760 And this judge might still keep her in jail.

01:14:57.540 I hope he doesn't do that.

01:14:58.940 Everything has been taken away.

01:15:00.100 There's nothing wrong with what she's done.

01:15:02.940 Let's go.

01:15:03.520 Let's let her out.

01:15:04.940 All right.

01:15:05.540 One last question.

01:15:06.700 As a business owner myself, I am looking for someone to give us some sort of protection from litigation because they're already, I think, 2400 cases against businesses, etc., etc.

01:15:26.300 all across the country on coronavirus.

01:15:29.780 And if somebody walks into my place of business and they get sick, am I going to get sued?

01:15:38.060 Are you guys thinking at all of any protection or giving us any kind of any kind of release from liability if we're opening up our stores and we're being responsible?

01:15:48.080 Well, so that that is completely controlled by the Texas legislature.

01:15:52.980 The governor can't really stop lawsuits.

01:15:56.240 Even with an executive order, it would expire.

01:15:59.740 You know, he can't he can't after the coronavirus is no longer a threat.

01:16:04.920 He wouldn't have the same authority.

01:16:06.480 So it has to be the Texas legislature, which meets in January.

01:16:09.300 And they could, I believe, they could retroactively end these lawsuits.

01:16:17.000 Do you think that that is worth calling a special session for?

01:16:21.840 I mean, it's an emergency.

01:16:23.080 I mean, my honestly, my business partner is like, I'm not opening up these studios until I have something I can point to and say, well, no, they said we could go back to work if we did these things.

01:16:35.860 You know, and I don't know when you're going to tell regular businesses you can open back up and everybody can come back to work.

01:16:42.220 You know, we're we're we actually have no one in our studios right now of 80,000 square feet.

01:16:47.860 I mean, I was in the middle of construction of remodeling.

01:16:50.680 I not even I can't even bring the construction workers in because I'm afraid that one person who's an emergency person who's on the other side of the building could get sick.

01:16:59.820 And it would just it would destroy us.

01:17:03.240 What do we do?

01:17:04.660 I think you I think that's certainly something that the governor should consider.

01:17:10.500 It's it's it's it's definitely a challenging issue for businesses to not have some security as it relates to this issue.

01:17:17.740 And, you know, there will be lawsuits filed.

01:17:20.660 So, you know, I don't know.

01:17:21.980 I'm going to be thinking about this.

01:17:24.000 I don't know whether he's going to call a special session before January.

01:17:26.480 It's 100 percent the governor's call, and I just have no idea whether he's going to do that.

01:17:32.760 Would you be willing to pass that on to him for us?

01:17:35.180 Because I know a lot of business people that are in the same boat.

01:17:37.480 We want to open back up and we will be responsible.

01:17:40.660 We just need some indication from the governor that it's going to be OK.

01:17:44.840 You go back to work now.

01:17:46.460 We need somebody to say that.

01:17:48.100 So we're not there all on our own waiting for just dogs of of of litigation to devour us.

01:17:56.480 Absolutely.

01:17:57.280 I will communicate that message today.

01:17:59.340 I think that that's a good message for him.

01:18:01.420 I'm sure he's already heard it, but for him to hear.

01:18:03.680 I'm sure he has.

01:18:05.220 So, yeah, happy to do that.

01:18:07.600 Ken, thank you very much.

01:18:08.860 I appreciate it.

01:18:09.840 This is some really good news.

01:18:11.820 And and thank you for your leadership and keeping us out of just really nasty things.

01:18:17.940 Thank you so much.

01:18:19.100 Thanks, Glenn.

01:18:19.600 Have a great day.

01:18:20.360 You bet.

01:18:21.740 Ken Paxton, the attorney general for Texas, who just said, do less, not more.

01:18:29.120 I think that is that's the Texas way.

01:18:32.900 And congratulations to Governor Abbott for saying no one's going to jail for opening their businesses here in in the great state of Texas.

01:18:39.920 All right.

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01:20:31.540 We just had Ken Paxton on.

01:20:33.440 He was commenting about Shelley Luther, the salon owner in Dallas that is now in jail on contempt.

01:20:38.860 Governor Abbott just released a an order that said no one is going to jail.

01:20:46.420 I rescind all verdicts to send anyone to jail for opening up their business.

01:20:53.240 He said there's a travesty and and it he's urging all of the judges.

01:21:00.220 Well, one in particular that just threw Shelley Luther into jail on contempt because he can't overturn that.

01:21:08.820 Apparently, according to the attorney general, the judge has to do that.

01:21:12.840 This guy is an out of control judge.

01:21:14.620 We'll see what happens.

01:21:16.020 That should be developing here, possibly by the time we get off the air today.

01:21:19.900 Also, this is I mean, Shelley Luther could become the next, you know, mini Rosa Parks because we are in a civil rights crisis.

01:21:31.860 And we're going to talk to a few more of these people coming up next.

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01:22:40.640 Do you remember when Governor Cuomo was asked by a member of the press who's actually listening to people?

01:22:50.520 They're trying to find a job.

01:22:51.980 They can't get any money from the PPP.

01:22:55.160 They're not getting their unemployment insurance yet and they're struggling.

01:22:59.540 They need money.

01:23:01.720 They got to get a job.

01:23:03.380 And he snidely said, let them get an essential workers job.

01:23:08.660 Oh, OK.

01:23:10.020 All right.

01:23:10.500 Thank you, Governor.

01:23:11.440 Well, now the news comes out that the state of New York is now starting to furlough essential workers.

01:23:19.700 So if you had an essential workers job, well, what are you going to do, Governor?

01:23:28.380 People are not listening.

01:23:29.460 The state does not understand people's dreams are being crushed.

01:23:35.420 And we are now in a new civil rights era.

01:23:38.800 It's it's it's it's taken this for us to look at the Constitution again.

01:23:44.700 Thank God we have it.

01:23:46.480 We're going to talk to three.

01:23:47.860 I think emerging civil rights kind of activists, people who say I have a right to work and they're

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01:24:02.480 They just don't want to lose everything that they've ever had.

01:24:05.400 And they're being persecuted and prosecuted by their states and their local authorities.

01:24:10.980 We go there in one minute.

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01:26:05.960 So I read this story.

01:26:11.060 About a guy who is in Los Angeles and in Montrose, and he has he has something called the wine

01:26:21.480 cave, and he's not a crazy guy.

01:26:24.660 He's not somebody that is, you know, trying to make sure everybody is sick or capitalize

01:26:29.920 on this.

01:26:30.920 He's just a guy who cannot get unemployment.

01:26:33.420 He hasn't been able to get a check from the state.

01:26:35.840 He hasn't been able to get anything from PPP.

01:26:39.800 So he's out of money.

01:26:41.060 And he's going to lose everything.

01:26:43.480 And he decided, you know what?

01:26:45.360 I don't care what Los Angeles says.

01:26:46.880 I've got to open.

01:26:48.420 I'm either homeless or I'm in jail.

01:26:52.520 And the city of Los Angeles has done one worse, I think, to this man.

01:26:58.440 Joseph, welcome to the program.

01:27:00.140 How are you, sir?

01:27:02.700 I'm good, sir.

01:27:03.480 How are you?

01:27:04.900 I'm good.

01:27:05.580 So now you you are the owner of what's called the wine cave.

01:27:10.180 You're married.

01:27:11.140 You have a couple of kids and you were doing what everybody else is doing.

01:27:17.040 You were you're sheltering in place, et cetera, et cetera.

01:27:20.700 And then you applied for a PPP loan and, you know, some unemployment insurance.

01:27:26.820 And what happened there?

01:27:28.300 Nothing happened.

01:27:32.120 I have not received anything from the unemployment, neither from the PPP.

01:27:36.860 All I've been getting is I had my fourth email actually last Friday saying that your application is in process and it will be processed due to the order that was received.

01:27:48.020 And that's all I've heard so far.

01:27:49.980 It's been over a month and a half or so since I applied for both.

01:27:53.940 And so you have no money coming in.

01:27:56.040 Does your wife work?

01:27:58.980 My wife works, but she doesn't make too much money.

01:28:02.080 But what I'm doing at the moment is to just get some sort of income coming in.

01:28:06.880 I am opening in the afternoon from three to six just to carry out bottles of wine, which is really not my forte in business.

01:28:14.280 But because I'm not a wine shop, I'm a wine bar.

01:28:17.200 So I have to sell these bottles at a wine bar prices, which is, as you know, it's not as expensive as, yes.

01:28:26.860 I can't sell it as a supermarket price, in other words.

01:28:30.100 Yes.

01:28:30.680 I can't sell these bottles at $14, $15, $16.

01:28:33.780 I have to charge at least minimum $30 to $35 for them.

01:28:37.700 But thanks to my community and my friends, all the support that I've ever received.

01:28:42.300 I mean, it's health, but it's nowhere near what I need to go on and survive this business.

01:28:47.460 Right.

01:28:48.060 You're making now about 10% of what you would normally make.

01:28:51.660 And there's, I mean, you haven't been able to pay your rent for two months, right?

01:28:56.320 Yes, absolutely right.

01:28:57.580 Yes.

01:28:57.820 I haven't paid in April, neither nor May.

01:28:59.920 So here in Texas, we just spoke to the attorney general here in Texas, and they just reversed throwing people into jail here.

01:29:12.280 We had a judge throw somebody who opened up their salon into jail, and the governor was a little pissed about it.

01:29:17.400 And so he said, no more throwing people in jail for this.

01:29:20.040 But they're doing something, I think, worse to you, because you were prepared to go to jail, right?

01:29:27.580 Absolutely, sir.

01:29:28.560 I know if you saw my segment on the local news, I said the only way I would not open this bar is if they handcuffed me and take me to jail.

01:29:35.340 That's what I told.

01:29:36.260 That was the last statement I made.

01:29:37.780 But if I may continue, the reason why I kind of backed off and did not open the bar, because I was threatened by the authorities, directly and indirectly, that I could lose both my liquor license and my business license.

01:29:52.360 And if you lose those, then you cannot operate, period.

01:29:55.780 So it would have been business suicide.

01:29:58.140 So that's why, like, wait a minute.

01:29:59.840 I said, I'm ready to go to jail, but I cannot lose my licenses, just in case if we open up, hopefully soon, I have to have the licenses to operate.

01:30:08.320 That was the only reason why I did not open that Friday.

01:30:13.000 So they control you no matter what.

01:30:15.620 You cannot pursue, as our Declaration of Independence says, pursue your happiness.

01:30:21.140 Yes.

01:30:21.420 Can't do it.

01:30:22.160 Yes, sir.

01:30:22.720 I totally agree with you.

01:30:23.840 You know, I was thinking about it last time before I went to bed.

01:30:26.480 I said, land of the brave and the home of the free.

01:30:29.260 You know, this is not home.

01:30:30.340 I'm not free anymore.

01:30:31.860 You know, I'm being controlled by a government.

01:30:34.100 So no constitutional rights.

01:30:35.960 Where's my First Amendment rights, you know?

01:30:37.780 And I would understand everything that's going on.

01:30:40.980 I said to them, I'm going to open up with a six-feet social distancing, practicing that, practicing handing out gloves to my customers.

01:30:49.980 I would have hand sanitizers, masks if anybody needed.

01:30:53.620 I was going to serve the wine in disposable cups.

01:30:57.820 But I guess none of these matter.

01:30:59.420 But yet, when you go to these larger stores, which I went specifically Sunday to see, I visited Target and I visited Home Depot.

01:31:07.900 There were hundreds of people, half wearing masks, half not wearing masks, walking around the aisles.

01:31:13.640 It just doesn't make sense how those companies, I understand they're more essential maybe than wine is.

01:31:20.400 But I need to go on and survive and provide for my family.

01:31:23.760 And that's what your survival, you may not be providing an essential service, per se.

01:31:33.300 But your survival is essential, and you have a right to survive.

01:31:39.520 Where these other companies, you're exactly right.

01:31:42.500 The standards, I could do those standards in my business, but I'm not allowed to do those standards because I'm not an essential business.

01:31:49.280 Well, wait a minute.

01:31:50.360 Hang on just a second.

01:31:51.740 I'm an essential American.

01:31:53.540 We all are, and we all have these certain unalienable rights that cannot be ever violated, and they're all being violated.

01:32:04.560 So, what are your plans?

01:32:07.900 How long can you last without any kind of aid from anyone?

01:32:12.020 Well, my landlady is being very lenient, so I am actually, I just recently opened up a GoFundMe page.

01:32:23.600 I received a few thousand dollars today, so I paid my utility bill, I paid my insurance bill, I paid my health insurance for the family.

01:32:31.260 So, how long can I last?

01:32:32.940 I mean, who knows, man?

01:32:34.480 Maybe another two weeks or so.

01:32:36.920 So, I don't know.

01:32:37.760 I mean, I, well, if I don't pay my rent, obviously, I don't know.

01:32:41.920 I don't know.

01:32:42.880 Go ahead.

01:32:44.120 Is there anybody in California, any agency, anybody that is working with you to fight for your rights?

01:32:53.420 Not that I am aware of, no, sir.

01:32:55.480 No.

01:32:55.820 Holy cow.

01:32:56.500 The only support I received was through my bar customers and friends that come to the bar frequently.

01:33:06.580 It's a very popular little local spot in Montrose, California, which is only 15 minutes north of downtown L.A.

01:33:12.640 But besides that, nothing.

01:33:14.440 Yeah, nothing at all.

01:33:16.340 Receive the phone call from an agency.

01:33:18.420 I'm not going to mention names.

01:33:20.340 You're jeopardizing your liquor license.

01:33:22.520 If you receive another phone call from another agency, your CDO of Glendale will take action against you.

01:33:27.840 I'm like, oh, wow, really?

01:33:29.460 That's how this is going to work?

01:33:31.040 And I said to everybody who actually called me to give me this news, I said, you're sitting behind a desk.

01:33:36.880 You're getting your paycheck.

01:33:37.920 I said, how am I supposed to survive and provide for my family?

01:33:42.380 The answer was, something will prevail.

01:33:47.260 Oh, okay, good.

01:33:48.500 Well, we got that going for us.

01:33:50.180 Joseph, thank you so much.

01:33:51.480 God bless you.

01:33:53.320 And we'll follow your progress.

01:33:56.060 Thank you so much.

01:33:57.460 All right.

01:33:57.720 So there's a guy, normal, didn't want to hurt anybody, you know, just said, I've got to survive.

01:34:04.240 Now he's on the air and he's afraid to tell you the name of the agency that is threatening his business because he knows they could be vindictive.

01:34:15.380 And I'm pretty sure I've had dealings with that group of officials.

01:34:23.840 And I think if it's the group I'm thinking of, they are and out of control lefties, if I am not mistaken.

01:34:34.240 So now let's go to another part of the country.

01:34:37.140 I want to introduce you to somebody else who opened up his store.

01:34:40.640 It didn't even want to have any customers was not in flat.

01:34:45.320 It was not going to do anything.

01:34:46.800 He just turned the sign over open as a protest.

01:34:52.040 You can't tell me what to do.

01:34:54.180 Again, no intention of having a single customer come in.

01:34:58.260 Just turned the sign over.

01:35:00.840 Wait until you hear his story.

01:35:02.280 We'll do that in 60 seconds.

01:35:04.220 Stand by.

01:35:06.440 When I talk to you a little bit about a gold line here, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and Bank of America all may now say that gold is going to go up to $3,000 an ounce in the next couple of years.

01:35:22.700 Now, that sounds great.

01:35:25.480 I told you in 2002 when gold was about, I don't remember, $300, $400 an ounce, gold's going to be over $1,000.

01:35:36.240 It's now $1,700.

01:35:38.260 Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of America are all telling their advisors, their economic advisors are coming out, and they're all telling the people that they advise $3,000 an ounce.

01:35:49.680 Okay, I don't have any experience on any of that stuff.

01:35:53.820 Here's what I do have experience.

01:35:55.020 The world is going insane.

01:35:57.280 We're doing insane things with our money.

01:35:59.460 And until I start to see a retreat from insanity, I'm going to safe havens.

01:36:06.620 And may I recommend gold at gold line?

01:36:09.420 There is a shortage of gold already, and that is just because of what's happening over in Europe.

01:36:15.400 It hadn't even started over here yet.

01:36:18.400 There's already a shortage of gold.

01:36:20.140 Now, gold line has acquired a very small selection of historic $5 Liberty gold coins minted in 1901.

01:36:27.620 They're historic coins.

01:36:29.040 I buy these for a reason.

01:36:30.540 I put my money where my mouth is.

01:36:32.340 I, full disclosure, I just bought some of these because I think quarter ounce gold coins are going to probably play a role in the future.

01:36:41.860 It's tangible assets that change in value that you don't have to worry about reselling later.

01:36:49.320 You know, I'm not trying to make money on it.

01:36:50.920 I'm trying to have money when no one has anything of value.

01:36:55.200 Gold line.

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01:36:58.740 Call them now.

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01:37:01.820 10 seconds.

01:37:02.460 Station ID.

01:37:02.900 Now, you want to talk about, you want to talk about being a non-essential business.

01:37:15.480 I would say the Apex Tattoo Factory would fit into that category.

01:37:22.160 Now, we have the business owner, Matthew, Matthew Jax Myers.

01:37:27.320 He's on, and Matthew, you were arrested back in April because the governor, Roy Cooper, said you have to close your business.

01:37:39.020 Everybody has to close their business, and you didn't agree with that.

01:37:41.820 Is that right, Matthew?

01:37:43.380 Yeah.

01:37:44.040 Yep.

01:37:46.860 Yeah, I mean, we've got some pretty, pretty extinguant things going on as far as his power and what he can do here in North Carolina.

01:37:57.320 Uh, and so you were not planning on having anybody come into the store.

01:38:02.280 Do I have this right that you just really turned over the, the open sign as a sign of protest?

01:38:08.940 Yeah, it was, there was a constant, uh, United States Constitution on the door and it got some flag in the window.

01:38:16.020 I mean, yeah, it was completely 100% protest.

01:38:19.620 And you were closed down within a couple of minutes, if I'm not mistaken, and, uh, and you went to jail and when you were booked in jail, released, but booked.

01:38:32.840 Yes, sir.

01:38:33.740 Tell me about, tell me about that.

01:38:35.620 What were you booked on?

01:38:38.380 What were the officers like?

01:38:40.760 Uh, so the, the apex police department, I mean, they didn't want to arrest me.

01:38:46.020 They did everything in their power that they could, um, to not arrest me.

01:38:50.520 But, but it came down later in articles that somebody from higher up basically told them they had to.

01:38:58.000 And, um, as far as like being booked and stuff, I mean, they were, there were signs all over the place, you know, saying that they needed to take, uh, PPE.

01:39:06.760 But, I mean, they pulled my mask off and they didn't let me wash my hands after being frisked or pulling the stuff out of my pockets.

01:39:13.620 And, and I literally, I got released with a guy that had 14 felony drug charges and, uh, uh, pretty unsavorable, uh, stocking charge that wouldn't stop pacing around the room.

01:39:27.420 And he was released.

01:39:28.920 Why?

01:39:30.780 Um, I have no clue.

01:39:33.080 They, they just don't want them in the, in the jails, I guess.

01:39:36.760 Um, to control the population as far as maybe the COVID.

01:39:42.120 Hmm.

01:39:43.340 Okay.

01:39:43.860 So I read a statement from the mayor of, uh, apex and, uh, he said, I'm going to be there after all of it.

01:39:53.000 And I extend my hand to help you.

01:39:56.240 Um, I'm in this with you.

01:39:58.400 Uh, and, uh, he said, what I would say about him is he's making decision that obviously I wouldn't make in my current position.

01:40:06.540 But I'm not in his current position.

01:40:09.240 I don't know exactly how he feels.

01:40:13.240 Yeah.

01:40:13.820 So your relationship with the, with the mayor sounds good.

01:40:17.100 Yeah.

01:40:17.780 Yep.

01:40:18.220 He actually owns a small business that was, is in my, my same complex.

01:40:23.560 Cause this is a chain of small businesses, um, that I'm next to.

01:40:27.400 And he did, he tried to call me and say, Hey, you know, I already know that you're going through some financial stuff.

01:40:34.280 You don't need a charge on top of it.

01:40:36.360 And I just told him, you know, the, both the state and, and the United States constitution prevents him from, from charging me with anything.

01:40:44.160 He may charge me now, but it's not going to float.

01:40:47.500 So other than that, you know, just convincing the four ladies that live in my house, that their dad was going to jail was, was pretty unnerving.

01:40:58.820 So where do you go from here?

01:41:00.320 Who's helping you?

01:41:01.500 What do you expect to happen?

01:41:03.080 I know there was a $2,000.

01:41:05.500 Was that that $2,000 bail that you had to post?

01:41:08.280 Yeah.

01:41:09.040 Yeah.

01:41:09.420 And I mean, the media, the media downplayed it.

01:41:12.580 Even the state statute says it's a class two misdemeanor, but I got charged with a class one misdemeanor and a $2,000 fine.

01:41:20.700 Um, as far as what, what happens from here?

01:41:23.640 Um, I'm not going to stop.

01:41:25.260 Um, I've joined up with, with reopen NC and I was, I was following them when I did it.

01:41:30.900 But now that I have a voice and that people are looking, you know, to me, I've joined up with reopen NC and, and what we're going to do is we're going to put 10,000 people.

01:41:42.300 I want 20,000 people to come in and sit outside of this house because the, the people that I see that are there, those are all small business owners and they're not just random people showing up for the cause.

01:41:56.320 I went early part of the reason that caused me to do the protests with my business was just showing up there an hour early and talking to people and just being heartbroken by, by the fact that I wasn't alone.

01:42:10.080 Like everybody's story is the same as mine.

01:42:12.340 Nobody's getting any kind of relief.

01:42:14.640 And, and this really wouldn't be such an issue, but sole proprietors aren't getting anything.

01:42:20.360 And, and when you have double bills and double rent or, or a mortgage and a rent, or you're buying a building and then business loans and, and people just think that we're, we're being selfish.

01:42:32.700 But what it is, is we're trying to keep our dream alive and nobody's getting any help.

01:42:38.520 You can't call anywhere because the lines are all busy.

01:42:41.700 Most of the major bank sources seem like they don't really care about the little money, you know?

01:42:49.200 Hmm.

01:42:49.840 It's really disheartening.

01:42:52.440 Yeah.

01:42:52.980 I, uh, I, Matthew, I, as a business owner myself, I completely relate.

01:42:58.680 I, I've been thinking about my dad a lot.

01:43:01.300 Um, he was a small business owner, had a small bakery in a little teeny town and there's no way we would have survived this as a family.

01:43:07.800 There's just no way, um, if, if he couldn't open his doors and I know my dad would have done the same thing that you just did.

01:43:15.020 I, I'm, in fact, he would have opened and started selling stuff and he would have said, arrest me.

01:43:20.100 Um, I'm, I'm feeding my children and I have a right to do that.

01:43:23.620 Um, I think we are headed for a real, perhaps healthy, uh, civil rights, uh, era where we are actually going back and looking at the constitution and, uh, understanding our rights.

01:43:37.320 I wish you the best.

01:43:38.460 I wish you peace, uh, and success in all that you do, Matthew.

01:43:42.280 Thank you so much.

01:43:43.820 Thank you.

01:43:44.040 That's Matthew Myers.

01:43:45.400 He's from, uh, Apex Tattoo Factory in North Carolina, defying the governor there, Roy Cooper's executive order.

01:43:54.420 Back in a minute.

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01:45:45.960 His name is Jason Buttril, and he's an amazing guy.

01:45:51.240 He has been now named our head writer and chief researcher on all things.

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01:46:04.600 I've asked him to look into this Venezuela operation, and he joins us now.

01:46:10.160 Hi, Jason.

01:46:10.620 How are you?

01:46:11.740 Hey, Glenn.

01:46:12.060 Doing good.

01:46:12.460 Thanks for having me.

01:46:13.020 So, this story here on Venezuela is amazing, and they have just now trotted one of these

01:46:26.180 former, I think, Green Berets or Special Forces members out in front of television in Venezuela,

01:46:33.840 and I'll ask you to tell me about them here in just a second, but he was arrested in Venezuela

01:46:40.400 and admitted to a plot to capture President Maduro.

01:46:46.980 He said that he and six Venezuelan mercenaries, along with another American,

01:46:53.560 were commanded by Donald Trump to go and kidnap Maduro.

01:47:01.040 That doesn't sound like a very good plan, if indeed is true.

01:47:06.320 Do you believe it came from the White House in any way, shape, or form?

01:47:12.200 Absolutely not, and I think that's the best jumping off point to look at this story, because

01:47:17.720 I've looked into this story.

01:47:20.180 I've actually reached out to people that were, I don't want to say involved, and I'm going

01:47:24.500 to be very careful to keep their identities hidden, but they did go to the training camps

01:47:30.520 which were in Colombia, they did help initially in some of the training, but one of the reasons

01:47:36.020 why they backed out was because they said that there was no support from any government

01:47:41.400 whatsoever.

01:47:42.100 There was no support from the transition government with Gallardo in Venezuela, and there was definitely

01:47:47.500 no U.S. government support, and that caused many people to say, look, I don't want to have

01:47:52.800 anything to do with this.

01:47:53.640 So they went down, the people you spoke to, went down and were part of this training early

01:48:00.440 on, and then figured it out and went, this is crazy.

01:48:04.140 Yeah, I mean, they reported malnourished soldiers on the ground, they reported a lack of weapons,

01:48:11.960 they reported a low amount of actual soldiers that could pull this off.

01:48:16.060 So the people that were involved were, to be pretty bluntly, known drug traffickers.

01:48:22.720 In fact, the head, his name is Alcala, was a general under Chavez, and he's been a dissident,

01:48:29.740 he separated from the Maduro military, he was involved in the get-go from a lot of the

01:48:35.320 armed uprisings we saw back in April of last year.

01:48:39.420 He is now in a U.S. prison because he was involved with Chavez to smuggle cocaine up into

01:48:46.260 the United States.

01:48:47.060 These are the people that were involved here.

01:48:49.540 So who was paying for it?

01:48:50.880 Was he involved in paying for it?

01:48:53.680 Very good question, because the American contractor that kind of set everything up, the former

01:48:58.840 special Green Beret, Jordan Goudreau, he said that initially they had the Venezuelan transition

01:49:05.380 government on board.

01:49:07.100 They promised to pay them money, but the money never showed up.

01:49:10.120 Now, there's been a lot of people who've been trying to follow the money trail.

01:49:12.900 There's been multiple millionaires, billionaires, some of them in the United States who initially

01:49:18.480 sounded like they were giving some money, but it pretty much sounds like once they figured

01:49:22.880 out the scope of this, that they actually were going to do an invasion with 300 men, Glenn.

01:49:29.380 The Venezuelan army has over 140,000.

01:49:33.380 Now, they had 300 men.

01:49:35.000 I love it.

01:49:36.300 300.

01:49:37.380 I mean, you know, isn't that that famous movie, 300, and that famous story from, what, Troy?

01:49:44.540 300 men?

01:49:45.860 It's a bit of a half of a month, you know?

01:49:48.160 Yeah, it is crazy.

01:49:50.360 Now, Maduro is taking this guy, and he is just spilling his guts, but he's saying that

01:49:57.140 a company called Silver Corp was involved in this.

01:50:02.900 What is Silver Corp?

01:50:04.400 So, Silver Corp is Jordan Goudreau's, the former Green Beret.

01:50:08.520 It's his company.

01:50:09.800 If you look on it, it looks like a lot of the shady contractor-type websites.

01:50:15.300 There's really no way to get in contact with them.

01:50:17.640 They just show them doing pictures of cool stuff, you know, wearing earpieces or, you

01:50:21.600 know, running around with their shirts off up mountains and stuff and saying they can

01:50:24.620 provide cool.

01:50:25.060 So, it's like a Blackwater wannabe.

01:50:30.580 Exactly.

01:50:31.180 Less legit.

01:50:31.880 So, like, Blackwater, the way they would operate is they would get a government contract that's

01:50:35.320 fully sponsored by the U.S. government, and they would go do something.

01:50:37.700 That's the first way you can do those things.

01:50:39.380 The second is you get full support from the host nation.

01:50:42.680 Some contractors do that.

01:50:43.780 This guy went option C, which was none of the above.

01:50:47.920 We're just going to say screw it, gather a bunch of guys, and go in.

01:50:51.160 Yeah.

01:50:51.900 And their plan was to go take the airport.

01:50:54.720 I mean, this guy describes it on television in Venezuela that my job was to take the airport

01:51:00.600 and secure the perimeter.

01:51:02.360 Him.

01:51:03.540 To take the airport and secure the perimeter.

01:51:07.140 Uh-huh.

01:51:07.700 What was their plan beyond that?

01:51:09.480 So, from what I can tell, what they expected was they're claiming to have larger support

01:51:16.540 within Venezuela.

01:51:17.340 Now, that very well could be true.

01:51:19.280 But I guess really to fully understand it, we've got to go back to April of 2019.

01:51:23.940 April 2019, I don't know if you remember, but that's when, you know, there was an actual

01:51:28.140 like kind of turn in some of the soldiers.

01:51:30.020 There was that big uprising at one of the military bases.

01:51:33.240 Uh, Gallardo, uh, kind of emerged at that point.

01:51:35.960 The U.S.

01:51:36.260 Government said, okay, we support this guy.

01:51:37.680 And we thought more military were going to start flipping.

01:51:40.140 Well, that failed.

01:51:41.180 When that failed, I always wondered what happened to those guys.

01:51:44.200 Where'd they go?

01:51:45.180 Well, they went to Colombia.

01:51:46.880 And this story continues as all coup stories happen in a Marriott in Bogota, Colombia.

01:51:52.060 Um, don't all coup stories.

01:51:54.160 They end up happening in a Marriott.

01:51:54.920 Of course they do.

01:51:55.760 I don't, I don't know.

01:51:57.140 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

01:51:58.560 They always do.

01:51:59.820 So that's when all of these guys are clean.

01:52:01.780 They have a Bible in the, in the, in the bedside.

01:52:05.320 And so it's, you know, I mean, even revolutionaries want a nice place to stay.

01:52:09.900 Um, so what happens to this guy?

01:52:12.420 I mean, first of all, he is claiming on television that he got his orders direct from Donald Trump,

01:52:20.160 which is laughable.

01:52:22.860 I mean, there's no Donald Trump.

01:52:24.600 If he's going to go in, he's going in.

01:52:27.360 He's not going in with this guy.

01:52:30.180 Yeah.

01:52:30.900 No, this is dumb.

01:52:32.000 Nobody would support this plan.

01:52:33.480 His claims are absolutely false, which we verified, uh, ourselves.

01:52:38.380 Um, I don't know what happens to him.

01:52:40.260 Uh, Pompeo said yesterday that the U S government was going to do what they could to try and get them back.

01:52:44.880 But I personally don't think that they're going to be able to do anything.

01:52:47.700 We've already got sanctions on them.

01:52:49.200 We're not going to push this too far because it wasn't sanctioned.

01:52:52.320 And then we don't want to make it.

01:52:53.280 Well, why would we wait, wait, wait?

01:52:55.700 Yeah.

01:52:55.920 Why would we want these guys back?

01:52:57.880 I mean, you know, if I go into another country and I break the law, I have to pay the price in that the United States government is not going to come and save me.

01:53:07.800 You know, I have to pay the fine or go to jail or whatever it is.

01:53:11.380 Um, these guys were going in to foment a revolution and a coup.

01:53:18.040 And while I agree with the goal, I didn't, uh, why are we saving them?

01:53:24.040 That's true.

01:53:24.840 It will come down directly to that.

01:53:27.100 And you know, these, these were big boys.

01:53:29.360 They knew what they were doing.

01:53:30.380 This is awful.

01:53:31.040 The situation is awful.

01:53:32.680 Um, I think, uh, I think the official numbers are around nine men died, including the Americans that were captured.

01:53:38.720 They're alive, but it was a, it was a tragedy.

01:53:41.800 And, you know, this kind of all, this really all falls on Jordan Goudreau, the guy that, you know, started this.

01:53:47.300 It was his plan.

01:53:48.360 He was in command of these guys.

01:53:50.260 He convinced them to go.

01:53:51.780 Jordan Goudreau, if, if, if he's even listening to this, you need to go offer yourself.

01:53:56.240 You need to go say, Hey, look, I offer myself, let my men go.

01:53:59.900 Cause this is all on his shoulders.

01:54:01.920 A 300 troop plan to topple a government is absolutely ridiculous.

01:54:07.140 It's all on his shoulders.

01:54:08.040 He needs to trade himself for his men and get them out of there.

01:54:11.280 Well, you know how ridiculous this charge is when the media who has tried to pin everything on Donald Trump, I mean, everything when the media is not running with this as an attempted coup, you know, it would be very damaging if, if, if, if it were a coup, uh, that Donald Trump had done.

01:54:31.040 If it was a, you know, uh, Iran contra kind of thing, but it's so clearly not that even the mainstream media is not running with that narrative.

01:54:39.840 Now this is a, this is basically like, uh, I don't know, this is more like Bay of Pigs.

01:54:44.960 If the Apple dumpling gang grabbed the local get crime Lord and said, Hey, let's go invade a country or something like that.

01:54:51.080 Um, and the way they said, look, this guy would like did security with Trump and they, they pull all these screenshots of him providing security at a lot of Trump rallies.

01:55:00.680 Hey, I'm sorry, but probably every contractor in America when they're not overseas has provided security for president Trump at one of his rallies.

01:55:09.280 So you're, that's easy to find.

01:55:10.780 There's no, absolutely no connection between this guy and Donald Trump, besides the fact that he knew Trump's former bodyguard and use that, uh, connection to become, you know, to do security at some of these.

01:55:22.540 That, that is it.

01:55:23.380 That's all.

01:55:23.920 Um, unbelievable.

01:55:26.520 Thank you very much, uh, Jason.

01:55:28.040 I appreciate it and keep us up to speed on this.

01:55:30.140 Cause I, I find this story fascinating, just fascinating.

01:55:33.800 I was watching this, this, you know, hostage video, if you will, where he is, uh, he's saying all these things.

01:55:41.060 And I thought to myself, I haven't seen this, I think since the cold war, I haven't seen anything like this.

01:55:46.660 I mean, uh, it's, it's just bizarre, just bizarre.

01:55:51.980 Any idea how he's probably being treated or why he's saying these things?

01:55:56.420 Is he being tortured or is this just him?

01:55:59.240 Just, I don't know, trying to get preferential treatment.

01:56:03.640 Well, he's been given the same treatment I've been given.

01:56:05.500 And he's probably tapping into that is seer survival of Asian resistance escape.

01:56:09.500 And what he's doing right now is delaying as long as possible.

01:56:12.020 So he'll give out information that might, it sounds bad that he's admitting to things, but he's doing what he has to do in order to save, to, to stall for time so that he can survive.

01:56:20.460 So that's what he's doing right now.

01:56:22.060 He's giving them little bits of information is giving them little bits of little victories for them so he can get small victories for himself.

01:56:28.940 Maybe I shouldn't be saying a lot of this where I get in trouble and I get a knock on the door from a guy in a black suit, but he's doing what exactly what he needs to do to stall for time.

01:56:36.580 Right. And we, we've seen this happen before and our military always knows about what these guys are doing.

01:56:45.640 Unfortunately, this guy is out on his own.

01:56:50.180 I would be for rescuing people.

01:56:52.040 If this, if our president or our Pentagon was behind it and it was a failed deal, we have a responsibility to that individual to go save them.

01:57:01.760 But not if you're doing this on your own, not if you're doing it on your own.

01:57:05.540 And it's, it's, it's, it's a totally different story.

01:57:09.580 So thank you very much, Jason.

01:57:11.200 I appreciate it.

01:57:12.100 You bet.

01:57:12.840 Okay.

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01:58:58.480 So, Donald Trump's valet has tested positive for coronavirus.

01:59:07.840 That's not good.

01:59:09.000 The president has been retested and he has come clean on his test.

01:59:13.680 But the big question is, um, I didn't even know there were valets anymore.

01:59:20.900 I mean, what is this, Downton Abbey?

01:59:22.960 What the hell is, I must be dressed for dinner.

01:59:26.680 Tie my tie for me, please.

01:59:28.100 What the hell is a valet do?

01:59:30.820 I don't know.

01:59:31.160 I guess it says in the article that they're like high ranking, like military officials, basically.

01:59:37.180 Like they're highly trained in the military.

01:59:40.700 It's like not just some passing job that they give out to like the local parking establishment.

01:59:45.100 It's apparently being that close to the president that often is a pretty big deal.

01:59:49.520 Throw the keys to the beast to the valet.

01:59:54.280 I don't think that's happening.

01:59:56.160 Who knew?

01:59:56.500 I'd like someone qualified other than just the guy who could fit that sized red jacket to park the beast, please.

02:00:04.640 Yeah, but so a valet used to be somebody who would, uh, was in charge of the personal dressings and everything else that the, you know, the guy would need.

02:00:16.700 So he would lay out his suit and tie and then actually help him get dressed.

02:00:20.340 I'm sure that's not happening.

02:00:22.120 Uh, but then it became the parking guy.

02:00:25.380 What, what is the valet?

02:00:27.280 What does the presidential look this up real quick?

02:00:29.340 So just do a search.

02:00:30.460 What does the presidential valet do besides have Corona virus?

02:00:38.040 Presidential valets.

02:00:38.920 Here we go.

02:00:39.900 Um, okay.

02:00:41.000 All right.

02:00:41.580 Oh, he's got more than one.

02:00:43.000 Well, I mean, this is going back in history.

02:00:45.700 Uh, well, it does seem like there was something to do with the clothing.

02:00:49.440 Uh, back in the day.

02:00:50.320 Well, that's, that's what it was back in the day.

02:00:52.360 Mm-hmm.

02:00:53.760 Um, let's see.

02:00:54.860 Uh, some would wake, wake him up and remind him of the day's schedule.

02:00:59.280 This was, uh, I mean, it seems like a personal assistant dish type of thing.

02:01:04.760 I don't know.

02:01:05.800 I mean, who knows?

02:01:07.680 I don't know.

02:01:08.920 I just hope he's not getting the president sick.

02:01:11.820 Yeah.

02:01:12.300 And I mean, why do you have to be a trained military guy to do that?

02:01:15.480 Other than, I mean, you know, are you, this is the guy that's like, Hey dude, we got to go.

02:01:20.580 You're late for what?

02:01:22.000 I don't know, but you're like, come on, let's go.

02:01:23.700 Um, they're just telling me you got to go.

02:01:25.900 Is that what the valet does?

02:01:28.160 This is a good question.

02:01:29.260 And we should add Brad, Brad Meltzer would have known this off the top of his head.

02:01:32.160 He would have known this.

02:01:33.420 We should have asked him.

02:01:34.040 He would have known it.

02:01:34.580 He would have known the names of the most important valets in history too.

02:01:39.180 And he was written six books about different valets throughout history.

02:01:42.980 Yeah.

02:01:44.660 You didn't read my book, Being the Presidential Valet?

02:01:47.880 According to the White House Historical Society, there are a few people who work more closely

02:01:51.220 physically speaking with the president and his family than the president's valet.

02:01:55.040 Position dates back to George Washington.

02:01:56.760 Every president has had at least one valet who helps him dress, maintains his clothes,

02:02:01.220 and sees to his personal needs within the residence.

02:02:04.760 Who knew?

02:02:05.680 Hmm.

02:02:06.860 Who knew?

02:02:07.420 No wonder people want this job.

02:02:08.420 Wait, that's still the job?

02:02:11.060 That's what it seems like.

02:02:13.280 So this is the guy with...

02:02:14.660 Valets were personal assistants, messengers, confidants, nurses, barbers, bartenders,

02:02:19.440 waiters, public relations agents, and companions.

02:02:23.580 Okay, so...

02:02:24.160 Wow.

02:02:24.720 Okay, so the valet would be the guy who gets him the Big Mac, and then when the special sauce

02:02:31.700 is on his jacket, also has to go upstairs and get another jacket for him.

02:02:34.940 There you go.

02:02:35.660 Nice and easy.

02:02:36.300 Okay, all right.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 07, 2020

The New Civil Rights Movement ｜ Guests： Ken Paxton & Brad Meltzer ｜ 5⧸7⧸20

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