The Obamagate Crimes | Guests: Megyn Kelly & Sharyl Attkisson | 5⧸12⧸20
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Summary
On today's show, we discuss the latest in the Obamagate scandal, including new names being released and a possible indictment of former President Barack Obama. We also talk about the new list of people that could be charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to obstruct justice and much more!
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hello america and welcome to tuesday we've got a great show uh i don't know where we start uh
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the michigan sheriffs and the michigan judge that said yeah you know the 77 year old barber
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nah we're not gonna arrest him i don't care what the governor says oh that's good eating
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how about how about elon musk saying f you california i'm opening up come arrest me
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will they arrest him today or not uh cheryl atkinson has a list of all of the lies
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that the media has told and it's fantastic especially on the day that we have new names
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being released we could see indictments of clapper of brennan of samantha power uh possibly joe biden
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and barack obama it's an amazing obamagate scandal that is going on we have that oh and how can we
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forget uh bible scholars are now saying the uh the fourth horseman is finally uh saddled up and
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riding so jesus is coming soon where do we begin we'll decide in 60 seconds this is the glenn beck
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stew yes oh it's so it's so tense i don't know do we it's like who gets on the train today we have
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megan kelly coming up uh today uh she's going to be with us for a full hour we might have either
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cheryl atkinson or tim pool on today to talk about the press and the the mayhem with the cbs
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reporter yesterday oh that was just so satisfying um but we also have uh the declassified list of
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obama officials that are that could go to jail should go to jail i mean i think it's like a five
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year sentence for unmasking uh general flynn uh it's fantastic where do we start where do we start
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well i mean it's it's that last one's pretty pretty tempting i mean a whole yeah it is i'm curious
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because i you know i i'm not a believer that this stuff ever happens right it doesn't feel like it
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ever happens like we always talk about these like big charges that are coming down you know when it comes
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to these big powerful people in washington is it ever going to really occur i suppose if anyone's
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going to do it it's going to be donald trump um yes so let's start there and he has a reason to
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yeah really now i mean because you know we could all die before we finish that story it's like when
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you go to a restaurant start with dessert you could die before the meal gets here start with dessert
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it's fair although it doesn't necessarily cleanse your palate
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the all right okay all right if you end on an appetizer it doesn't necessarily cleanse the palate
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that well well i usually have ah i made it to dessert so i'll have a second dessert if all you
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eat is dessert then you're then you're always living life to the fullest exactly right stew finally
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someone who understands me i married i married the wrong person um acting director acting director of
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the national intelligence richard grinnell has declassified a list of obama administration
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officials involved in the illegal unmasking of general michael flynn in wiretapping now what's
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interesting is we almost had grinnell on do you remember we had grinnell on because we knew he knew
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something we knew he knew something and it was during the uh the biden thing and at the last minute
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we couldn't get the satellite up or whatever it was because he was over in germany
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well attorney general william barr is now in possession of the list and has the authority
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to make the document public according to abc news grinnell visited the justice department last week
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delivering the list of obama administration officials before ag bar announced the dropping
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of the doj case against flynn flynn pleaded guilty to one count of lying to fbi investigators
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about contract contacts with former ambassador of russia but he withdrew his plea when the legal team
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found evidence of potential prosecutorial prosecutorial and investigative abuses so here's what happened
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they knew uh back in late 2016 in december that the fbi had nothing on flynn and then there was a
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meeting at the white house and at this meeting was everybody including barack obama and it's now been
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revealed that barack obama knew about everything now this is new because clapper had testified
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uh no i didn't brief him nobody the president wasn't involved he didn't know but now we know
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that yes indeed he did and i'm trying to remember who was there at the meeting it was somebody big
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who was surprised that obama knew about all of this and so they they knew that the fbi was closing the
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case and obama said no you don't want to do that you want to keep this open you want to just keep
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you just want to keep this open and so they kept it open and they were looking to uh take down
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general flynn one way or another this is why that fbi uh agent wrote and said i'm confused here are we
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trying to find a crime or are we trying to uh get him to lie so we can force him out so that's why that
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is important now so it is they were trying to get him on a logan act violation now the logan act
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is from like the 1700s okay when we had actual foreign people uh going over to uh distant lands
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uh that may have had some sort of uh allegiance to those lands and they were representing themselves
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as able to talk to the uh for the united states of america and washington wanted to make sure that
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nobody was doing that you don't speak for america we have a secretary of state that speaks for america
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nobody has ever been prosecuted for this including ted kennedy who went over to russia at the height of
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the cold war and was telling them what we were doing and not to not to worry about it i don't know
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we're all bluster okay he went over and was was was aiding and abetting and providing comfort to our
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sworn enemy russia never nobody's ever been prosecuted with this okay it's old-timey law
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but that's what the fbi wanted so now it looks like we have uh we have these declassified names
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uh it's it's comey uh clapper who else here comey clapper uh i don't have the list in front of me
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and we don't know who's on the official list these are just this is just speculation obama and biden
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could be on this and uh i will tell you that uh you know there's a there's a there's a reason that
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that uh donald trump came out yesterday and really had at it here's here he is on obamagate crime
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listen to this audio from yesterday trump accusing obama of obamagate what crime exactly are you accusing
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president obama of committing and do you believe the justice department should prosecute him
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uh obamagate it's been going on for a long time it's been going on from before i even got elected
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and it's a disgrace that it happened and if you look at what's gone on and if you look at now all
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of this information that's being released and from what i understand that's only the beginning
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some terrible things happened and it should never be allowed to happen in our country again
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and you'll be seeing what's going on over the next over the coming weeks but i and i wish you'd
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write honestly about it but unfortunately you choose not to do so yeah john please what is the
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crime exactly that you're accusing him you know what the crime is the crime is very obvious to
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everybody all you have to do is read the newspapers except yours
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okay so here's the crime obama had unexpectedly intimate knowledge about the details of flynn's
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phone calls with the uh russian uh ambassador the fbi acknowledged at the time these were not criminal
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or even improper but the problem was is the president has said that he didn't know about it wasn't
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involved in any of this in fact there was testimony uh from clapper saying uh he was under oath
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uh in uh in congress uh in uh in congress and he said did the president did you brief the president did
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the president know about this and he said no so now he's committed perjury under oath in congress
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now here's the real problem obama has said this is a problem that we're not prosecuting flynn
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because he said the charges against flynn uh were perjury and uh he said this is something that
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we is is hurting the uh rule of law in america quote the fact there is no precedent that anyone can
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find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free uh yeah i would say that
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would be bill clinton but why stop there obama said that's the kind of stuff where you begin to get
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worried that basic not just institutional norms but our basic understanding of the rule of law is at
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risk yes we said that about bill clinton and everyone said well yeah but it was only a personal
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uh lie it was a lie it was a lie to protect his marriage okay well uh flynn he lied we know that
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he lied the reason why he's not being um nailed for it is because of the rule of law there wasn't an
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investigation that should have been going on you can't just an fbi agent can't just walk into your
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house and you're talking to him and you say you know what uh i really i really think that you're a
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wonderful individual and he says you're lying to me that's perjury no if he was doing an investigation
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and that investigation had a warrant and was authorized and it was a legitimate investigation
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then you could get him for perjury but because this wasn't a legitimate investigation this was a setup
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he can now say no i i lied to you but you can't prosecute me it's just like miranda writes if you
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don't read somebody their rights you can't prosecute them you can't use the things that they said because
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you didn't tell them their rights that is all about due process and the rule of law what's clapper's
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excuse clapper was covering for barack obama while under oath about an illegal investigation there's nowhere
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to go there so if barack obama cares so much about perjury he is throwing clapper under the bus
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and there's it couldn't happen to a nicer person uh we'll get we'll get back to this and so much
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10 seconds station id uh i want to play some audio here of uh trey gowdy yesterday uh trey was saying
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that there was a problem with his investigation now uh and he should have known better here's
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what he said yesterday i made a lot of mistakes in life relying on briefings and not insisting
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all the documents it took me about three weeks i went over to the department of justice i sat there
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for four hours that's when i saw that peter struck actually initiated and approved crossfire hurricane
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that's when i saw the exculpatory information on george papadopoulos that's when i saw for the very
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first time that it was the trump campaign mentioned in that predicate document they've been telling us all
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along trump's not the target the campaign's not the target so yes my mistake was relying on the word of
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the fbi and the doj and not insisting on the documents right luckily it took me about three
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weeks to correct that mistake so here's the question america really is at a crossroads right now
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are we going to listen to the people that we know have been lying to us the media i mean the media now
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the media they have the lowest score they've ever had uh and it's not just coming from one side
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now one side believes them more than the other but we have to ask ourselves now if we're being honest
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the uh water here for our attorney general bar and and uh uh and support the rule of law
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you've got another thing coming did you see yesterday that with 2000 fbi former fbi officials
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came out against attorney general bar on this i mean i can't believe it i just don't know what's
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happening how can 2000 agents come out a who organized that but where are the other agents
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that are supporting the rule of law well there's a lot of agents right and this becomes a political
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thing you know i know if you don't like the administration it shouldn't be it usually isn't
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i mean there also is an element here of you know when you're talking about people like comey for
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example you're talking about going out of after one of their own and that's not always uh looked
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upon so positively uh by institutions uh so that could be also an element at play comey has done
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more to damage the regular fbi agent uh than any person other than maybe hoover in in the history of
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the fbi i mean he's taken people who believed and supported the fbi uh in almost every on everything
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and has taken those people and made them question at best how they feel about the fbi it's pretty
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it's pretty remarkable the damage that has been done there all right coming up in uh just a second
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we've got to talk about elon musk uh also megan kelly will be joining us she's going to talk
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uh about her interview with tara reed and also the media what is happening with the media today
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uh here's a couple of things i gotta stop and talk about elon musk because i love this guy i love him
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now remember elon musk is a global warming guy i mean that's why he's that's why he's planning on
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going to mars because he's so convinced about global warming okay so he's not exactly a conservative
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um but he's he is great i just love him he's an entrepreneur he is he's tony stark let's be
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honest he is living the life of tony stark uh and using his money in all the ways that you would hope
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to use your money if you were really really rich and a genius um well he is in an argument now
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with california and california has said you can't open your uh your uh factory uh until when what are
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they saying the 20th or something like that and he says i'm opening it up i'm opening it up today
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that's this is today uh and uh if you want to arrest me go ahead i'll be on the line
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so now california is really really pissed at him uh because he's defying their orders and he said i
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don't get authority from you i don't know you some some little coronavirus commission nobody elected you
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no i'm running my company and so he's opening up the doors today apparently it has been crowded for
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the last few days as they started to come back online and he's threatening to move to texas or
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nevada which i mean you can move to nevada but you will be welcomed here in texas mr musk
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yeah i understand that newsom kind of gave him the go-ahead and then it was some non-elected county
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official that said no you're not going you're not restarting that he's like who are you no i'm i'm
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going to restart it so i i think good for him i it's it's unconstitutional i hope they i i hope they
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arrest him i hope they do they won't i hope they do because he has the money to make it into he's not
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going to shut up and he's not going to take it you know what else is kind of cool about elon musk is
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he's the only billionaire hobo i know of he says he's going to be without a house he's getting rid of
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all of his possessions he's supposedly incredibly cash poor he's just a billionaire on paper i mean
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he doesn't have apparently a lot of cash flow at least that's what they say and that's what he has
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said in the past uh so it's kind of interesting to see the way he operates uh he talks down his own
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stock he talks about not having any possessions ever he's a really interesting guy interesting cash
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i love him if there was anybody i could interview today my dream interview probably would be elon musk
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i find him one of the most fascinating he's kind of a he's a nikolai tesla of our era
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um and i think misunderstood and and maybe crazy i don't i don't know i don't think so but
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maybe crazy uh and i love that about him and he embodies the american entrepreneurial spirit
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he is a nikolai tesla um in all the ways that you know on all the things that implies
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and and maybe even the crazy part but uh i i hope they arrest him because he won't sit down
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he will not sit down it's fun too because the left now hates him just for the reasons we've been
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talking about that he insists on opening his factory again and that he can't take their zero
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tolerance policy yeah you disagree with one thing on the left and you're out yeah oh absolutely
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absolutely especially this one's really interesting to me because he seems to be
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you know he's against the lockdowns right and the president is still you know he he is obviously
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called for six weeks of lockdown and he said he's been defending it on twitter recently that it was the
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right policy to do and yet now opposition to trump is unacceptable to the left which is a fascinating
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development right but because wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute this isn't this this no i hate
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this argument i heard this on fox news of all i'm sorry i didn't mean to offend you jeez my gosh
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well you did you did i'm a little like elon musk i may be crazy here's the thing here's the thing
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donald trump yes he had the six-week lockdown but all of the rest of this stuff is happening because
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of the states donald trump is not responsible for all of this stuff now all of these lockdowns are
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being run by the states not the federal government right i'm just saying trump agreed with the policy
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for six weeks right he's now trying to get people to open up and and he's saying and he's by the way
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even after the lockdown expired is it was criticizing the georgia governor for doing too much too fast
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so i mean i don't think trump is in a situation where he has been advocating this you know the
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media tries to make him out to be this crazy radical character where he's just like everyone go out and
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sneeze on each other like that's not what he's done at all there's no evidence of that whatsoever
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and so totally reasonable and what and what uh uh musk is doing here is he's been saying like you
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know free america open it up blah blah blah and like that is in opposition to what donald trump is saying
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which usually immediately guarantees you're on the right side of the left because the whatever that
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trump says uh if you're on the left you have to disagree with it what is funny is they just are
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reading into his mindset and saying well he doesn't actually believe it he doesn't actually
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believe no he's actually no but he's actually come out and said that this is fascistic what's
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happening is fascistic must so he's not i don't think he's yeah i don't think he's meaning that about
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donald trump he's meaning about lockdowns right now his his immediate concern is newsom who's gone
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further than trump but i mean i don't think the difference which i don't think the space between
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trump and newsom is fascism they they both have said like hey this is a this is a big time we need
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to close down the economy you know like i think just for whatever reason because trump's at times
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rhetoric says hey we're we're you know we want to open this up and we we want to get out there when
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we get out there by easter but then he himself had the lockdown several weeks past easter right like
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he's looking at this i think and trying to judge it with the best scientific you know knowledge
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that's coming into him uh and musk is uh is is saying it's time i think it is time this is texas
00:29:28.360
we're we've started to open it up and i think we've done you wearing masks outside what's your
00:29:33.600
mask outside no you wearing masks outside no i don't wear them outside do you wear them into a store
00:29:38.920
inside i wear them into a store oh do you yeah sometimes you know i mean it depends on the
00:29:43.840
situation i feel like it's interesting because um i've been to one store with 100 mask usage
00:29:49.560
really whole foods it's the only place i've been into of course all the people right and that's
00:29:55.680
probably the absolute safest place to not wear a mask because everyone else is wearing a mask
00:29:59.860
yep um if i go there's some stores where they're no one's wearing them and that's actually the place
00:30:04.520
you probably should wear them uh which is kind of counterintuitive did you guys see the video of
00:30:09.240
the real estate agent in miami whose client apparently uh went against uh her better judgment
00:30:17.060
the realtor is better judgment and didn't wear a mask or gloves to an appointment uh watch this
00:30:23.380
you just a tad upset about it video because i'm a little pissed off at the simple fact that people
00:30:28.460
around this town don't wear the mask don't wear their gloves i just finished showing a house right
00:30:33.440
now the lady was pissed off because i asked her to wear a mask like seriously woman and then she's
00:30:39.680
coughing two seconds later like it's no big deal we're in this because of like that because people
00:30:46.200
out there on their boats doing all their bull partying no i'm not jealous no i'm not because
00:30:52.640
you know what i have a yacht i could go out with my friends and party but there's a time and place
00:30:56.820
for everything and now is not the time and place now is the time and place to be taking care of
00:31:01.600
yourselves and the people around you there are people dying there are people in hospitals risking
00:31:05.980
their lives because of like you who want to wear your mask who don't wear your gloves who don't
00:31:10.960
wear practice social distancing there's somebody who bought in completely but the truth is you know
00:31:15.380
what there's a time and place for partying and everything that was not the time to party
00:31:18.820
this what oh wow only in miami only in dade only in florida let me do it for a video for me for
00:31:25.820
tick tock wear your mask wear your gloves but we're gonna be quarantined all the way to
00:31:31.640
september and we may be spending new year's in our house because of you out there who don't wear
00:31:36.860
your mask and you know what i give a god you guys don't like me and you know what you delete me off
00:31:45.060
your social media you'll probably be doing me a favor so i don't need like you wear your mask
00:31:50.060
wear your gloves so we can get the out of our house you dumb
00:31:53.820
wow here's what i would suggest yeah you shouldn't drive while thank you while recording
00:32:02.880
she's got one hand you could see it in her glasses she's got one hand on the steering wheel
00:32:07.120
and the other one on her phone why did you know it's effing people like you
00:32:11.520
that are killing people on the roadways i really thought at the end she was going to crash into
00:32:16.340
something at the end of that video i thought that's what i was waiting for it would have been
00:32:19.200
great yeah you know it would have been great i guess well it would have been appropriate uh you
00:32:25.320
know i i i find this uh i i find this also in uh in intriguing as she is uh she is yelling about
00:32:32.660
this i'm guessing she didn't sell the house i'm guessing she left the house i'd say that's a good
00:32:37.580
guess didn't yeah yeah and i wonder if the woman would have said okay let's sign a contract i wonder
00:32:44.480
if that rant would have happened no way probably not no way right and the other thing is the glove
00:32:51.000
situation when you go into a store wearing gloves and then you touch something you're already can
00:32:57.740
you're contaminated right there you need to change the gloves after you touch anything so if you have
00:33:03.620
enough glove changes with you uh to to change them out after every single touch like you're touching a
00:33:10.960
uh cereal box it has been handled by 40 other people right well and the glove thing is isn't
00:33:16.680
even science right i mean like it's no you know it's much better to actually have touched something
00:33:21.240
bad and then wash your hands then you have it on your gloves then you take it off a lot of people
00:33:25.880
would touch whatever is on the outside of their gloves if they don't take it off properly and then
00:33:29.940
what use that as an excuse to not wash their hands well you should wash your hands after that anyway
00:33:33.420
you know the mask thing i think you know the science on that is you know look there's a good
00:33:37.080
they say about 70 to 80 percent uh drop on how how many droplets could get through if someone sneezes
00:33:44.000
in your face basically which is look it's it's how often are people sneezing very infrequently but i
00:33:49.380
mean it only takes once as you right very recently found out i did for my grandson who sneezed directly in
00:33:54.540
my face and uh yes i did get sick it's better than having it's better than having your daughter
00:34:01.440
is better than having your daughter vomit in your mouth which i've had yes that's nasty that sounds
00:34:06.520
worse it was not definitely worse no mask is helping you from that i will say yeah no daddy i
00:34:12.860
have a tummy ache well what does it feel like it was not good it was not good i mean you know as far
00:34:20.240
as i know glenn you haven't been out at all so uh you you probably don't have to worry about masks
00:34:24.300
because you haven't gone out to dinner or anything you haven't taken advantage of any of our texas
00:34:27.980
freedoms yeah i'm really liking staying at home i'm really loving it uh there is a chance if there
00:34:35.620
wasn't a camera in my house that i had to show up every day i might look like howard hughes at this
00:34:40.620
point i may have just a long beard and really long creepy fingernails and be like i'm just peeing in
00:34:47.240
bottles now and leaving them outside of the door it's a very attractive image yes i know it is uh but
00:34:55.640
i'm actually very i'm i'm enjoying it and i can't take the mask thing because i mean i'll wear the
00:35:01.440
mask if you know if we have to wear the mask i'll wear the mask um but it's ridiculous because nobody
00:35:07.860
knows what they're doing did you see i i saw somebody yesterday where was it on tv they were
00:35:14.500
wearing the mask and they were talking but they they had the mask just over their mouth not over their
00:35:21.080
nose and i'm like that's not doing you any good doing yeah that's not doing you and you know what
00:35:25.500
i love is when they when they take their glove hand and they pull down the mask so they can talk to
00:35:31.460
you well you've just contaminated your gloves and your mask right yeah so why do you have them on no
00:35:37.180
my favorite are the people like at home depot that are wearing gloves and their gloves are like
00:35:42.300
black from wearing them all day yeah you're just keeping it around longer i don't the glove thing
00:35:47.960
makes no sense you can't wash your hand you can't wash the outside of the gloves off so the stuff
00:35:53.700
that you pick up stays there forever uh if you have just your hands and you touch something that's
00:35:59.380
bad wash your hands frequently washing your hands and it gets removed and you're okay every so often
00:36:04.000
right it doesn't happen with gloves that's true the best thing at least makes sense i think that you
00:36:10.400
know if you you can obviously yeah the best thing makes sense but the gloves make no sense no sense
00:36:15.020
pat gray from pat gray unleashed podcast you can hear wherever or listen to him uh live before this
00:36:21.000
broadcast on the blaze radio network thank you very much pat no no uh all right so thank you i will tell
00:36:27.240
you that the woman that you just heard uh in the uh the real estate agent is not one of the real estate
00:36:34.380
agents that i trust you're you're not getting you're not getting that lady uh sorry miami um
00:36:41.940
she's not she didn't qualify um real estate agents i trust are the real estate agents that we have found
00:36:49.540
uh that meet a set of criteria where they do business the way we think it should be done
00:36:55.580
where it's just open honest uh they're hard working they're the the they sell the most in your area
00:37:02.660
um they they've been there for a while it's not a second job all of the things that make a great real
00:37:09.780
estate agent we look for those people and then we recommend them to you we advise you to you know
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tomorrow night on glenn tv the fbi the department of justice the cia the obama administration all
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colluding in the worst transition of power our nation has ever seen to take out president trump
00:37:49.920
and it turned out to be a disgrace to our country and it was a takedown of a duly elected president
00:37:55.540
glenn reveals the players involved and the documents that prove it the russia investigation
00:38:00.900
a political assassination tomorrow night 9 p.m eastern at blaze tv.com slash glenn
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so cheryl atkinson has uh come up with a definitive list of the media mistakes in the trump era and
00:38:25.480
she goes all the way you know all the way back to november 2016 um and what's interesting to me is
00:38:33.900
she is the stuff that we are now finding out that were out and out lies or planted by members of the
00:38:42.840
obama team uh with certain reporters um so we have cheryl atkinson coming on in just a second she can
00:38:49.660
explain what's going on and and give us a sense on you know she's still in washington so does she have
00:38:55.860
a sense that this is actually going to lead to something or is this just going to be an an exercise
00:39:01.380
in uh in futility where we are arguing about this and then nothing happens so we have cheryl atkinson
00:39:12.280
coming on in just a minute uh also megan kelly we have her coming up on the third hour she's going
00:39:18.340
to talk about the tara reed interview which i think was excellent she asked every question that i thought
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needed to be asked um and found some real gems in there we're going to talk to her about that and
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this is the glenbeck program hello america and welcome to the glenbeck program it's tuesday there
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is a ton going on we're now rewriting history in real time cuomo came out yesterday and talked about
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this european virus european virus what are you talking about the coronavirus uh now it's european
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and nobody says anything about it that's totally cool meanwhile the president is almost attacked by
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a cbs reporter uh called a racist because he said ask china ask china about these questions
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why are you asking you racist oh my gosh i can't take it meanwhile there are some big things that are
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happening uh looks like obamagate is a real thing that members of the obama administration
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as high up as the president president obama knew this investigation was bogus
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and pretty much everything we've gone through in the last four years with the media and this
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russiagate has been an absolute lie it's a clash of the titans and the one person i trust to take us
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tomorrow night on glenn tv the fbi the department of justice the cia the obama administration all
00:44:56.080
colluding in the worst transition of power our nation has ever seen to take out president trump
00:45:01.520
and it turned out to be a disgrace to our country and it was a takedown of a duly elected president
00:45:07.080
glenn reveals the players involved and the documents that prove it the russia investigation
00:45:12.520
a political assassination tomorrow night 9 p.m eastern at blaze tv.com slash glenn
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you know if you ever if you ever listen to somebody and you agree with everything they say
00:45:26.240
turn off the radio or or look for some other voice because that person most likely is lying to you
00:45:34.620
the thing i like about shara okinson is she takes on both sides she won an emmy award for outstanding
00:45:41.760
investigative journalism for the business of congress which included an undercover investigation
00:45:46.600
into fundraising by republican freshmen uh she had two other emmy nominations for benghazi dying for
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security and green energy going red it was around that time period where she fell out of favor uh with
00:46:02.000
uh the people at cbs news and elsewhere she has kept her good name and her integrity and she joins us
00:46:09.240
now cheryl atkinson from um uh full measure dot news cheryl how are you i'm great glenn how are you
00:46:17.540
good i read your story this morning and i wanted to get you on because i i i wondered if you could take us
00:46:24.320
through what is happening with this so-called obamagate and kind of explain it in layman's terms
00:46:31.500
and tie it to your your story that you just wrote which is incredible about all of the news
00:46:38.520
inaccuracies over the last few years i think that a lot of the conspiracy theories we heard about four
00:46:47.940
years ago that i didn't put much stock in because they sounded so far-fetched in some cases
00:46:53.080
have to a large degree proven through documentary evidence and testimony to be absolutely true
00:46:58.900
no one's more surprised than i am because again it just seemed like who would do that and what i'm
00:47:05.140
talking about is go ahead yeah i was just gonna say help me out on which conspiracy theories because
00:47:12.220
that's what everybody says about both sides now it's conspiracy so this one is the notion that
00:47:19.420
when president trump became a viable candidate for office and threatened both the democrat and
00:47:24.880
republican establishment the money system and what's perhaps even worse threatened to bring in
00:47:30.900
lieutenant general michael flynn who let's say knew where the bodies were buried and the intelligence
00:47:35.700
community knew he was going to upend abuses and corruption that he knew about there became a
00:47:41.700
desperate attempt to make sure that that didn't happen and that included attempts to try to find
00:47:47.640
anybody surrounding the trump campaign who maybe had been to russia so that it would be easier
00:47:53.340
to justify getting a wiretap against those people through which they could capture president trump's
00:48:00.040
communications and try to controversialize them and make sure that he didn't serve as an effective
00:48:06.380
and complete president i think that's what we've seen that's why they targeted flynn you remember
00:48:11.680
president obama met with president elect trump in the white house and before any of these
00:48:19.060
conversations that flynn had with the russian ambassador that were controversial before any of
00:48:24.600
this happened president obama reportedly told trump don't hire flynn why do you think that is but i think
00:48:31.240
it's pretty clear now based on again the documentary evidence that there was an effort when trump hired flynn
00:48:36.780
in any way to go after him and as the handwritten notes of one department of justice official said
00:48:42.580
do we want to get him to lie is that the goal so that we can get him fired or get him prosecuted and
00:48:49.560
that's exactly what it appears they did so cheryl take me through the the argument or the back and forth of
00:49:00.280
the president knew about this the president didn't know about this um and and why that's important
00:49:08.280
these these meetings uh that the president was involved in which meetings are you talking about sorry
00:49:15.220
the meetings the meetings at the white house uh where you know uh i think it was clapper said
00:49:22.140
no i didn't inform the president the president didn't know anything about this
00:49:25.960
and we now find out that they did have a meeting um and they were talking about the fbi investigation
00:49:33.960
was coming to an end and he said no keep it open keep it going ah president obama i'm sorry i was
00:49:40.160
thinking president yes oh yeah sorry president trump uh obama i i have not dug into that yet so i just
00:49:46.640
don't i don't have any particular insight but the question that's been raised by the new information
00:49:53.020
that's coming out three to four years later by the way after we should have had it this is public
00:49:57.440
information in my view it goes to the heart of potential criminal wrongdoing and national security
00:50:03.240
but this was kept hidden even by people working for president trump for the past couple of years
00:50:07.260
until now but what we're getting at the heart of now is how high up this went there has been a
00:50:13.520
steady stream of documentation from the inspector general and documents and congressional inquiries as to
00:50:20.460
the participation and wrongdoing including in the foreign intelligence surveillance court
00:50:25.620
improper wiretaps by fbi officials the doctoring of a document by an fbi lawyer well we we know all
00:50:33.380
that now but how high did it go did all of this happen sort of under the radar without the top
00:50:39.260
authorities knowing or did president obama play a role in helping to direct this did his top national
00:50:46.160
security advisor and officials what role did they play i think we're finally getting at the heart of
00:50:51.640
some of some of those questions and i would tell you that in general it it defies credulity to think
00:50:57.920
that all of this was being done at that level the way it was being done without the knowledge of top
00:51:03.840
officials so what were they when you said flynn wanted to go obama would respond no the guy's a racist
00:51:13.180
i didn't like the way he was uh he spoke about uh islam etc etc what what are the bodies that flynn
00:51:21.120
would have known that that obama didn't want uncovered well i'll tell you a couple of things i know
00:51:28.520
about and this is before 2016 through my sources and intelligence community i knew that they were
00:51:35.400
wiretapping political figures and journalists not just me other people um a lot of people improperly
00:51:42.240
and i would say illegally being monitored perhaps blackmailed or at least leverage used over people
00:51:49.240
you know that knew they were being monitored or had been monitored um these are really big things
00:51:54.260
that i think have been going on for years edward snowden revealed some of this some of it we
00:51:59.000
little little bit we found out about with revelations about the obama administration getting
00:52:03.560
subpoenas against associated press and that sort of thing but i think a far greater danger there were more
00:52:09.380
under the table efforts not even legal subpoenas that were being secretly you know given against
00:52:15.520
the press i think there were a lot more shenanigans being conducted inside our intelligence agency for
00:52:21.760
the past 15 years and top people brennan and clapper head of the the director of national intelligence
00:52:27.840
and head of the cia on multiple occasions that i've documented on a timeline at cherylackison.com
00:52:34.320
provided false information to congress um they were part of spying on uh the senate intelligence
00:52:41.960
committee but then providing misleading information when asked about it and having to ultimately admit
00:52:46.640
it and apologize i mean if you think about it it almost starts to when you look at the timeline look
00:52:52.120
like they were spying on practically everybody who weren't they spying on this is not allowed under
00:52:56.740
our constitution and in our country and i think clint knew a lot about a lot of this and going into
00:53:02.520
2016 i was told this was one thing that many people inside the intelligence community the bad actors not
00:53:10.000
the good actors but something that they feared so this is the worst case scenario i think for all
00:53:17.600
americans i don't care if you're left or right i don't care if you love obama or love trump it doesn't
00:53:21.900
matter this is awful uh and leads us into a completely dystopian uh world uh do you believe there's enough
00:53:33.480
there and are there any journalists out there that are part of the mainstream that this will affect
00:53:40.780
enough to where they will say we got to put partisan politics aside this has to be uncovered
00:53:48.020
i just think a lot of the deep diggers who would view things that way and just go where the facts
00:53:54.040
lead that's not being done at a lot of the mainstream news organizations anymore they're just taking
00:53:59.380
handout propaganda or comments from anonymous sources on one side or the other and publishing
00:54:04.380
but that's not a lot of real work or digging going into this this takes real work i've seen people
00:54:10.040
like glenn greenwald of the intercept and a couple of other places including some less
00:54:16.480
leading publications that have actually dug deep because their interest lies in intersects in some
00:54:22.660
cases with the interests of the right where these privacy invasions have happened no matter who's
00:54:27.860
committing them or these constitutional violations i have seen some deep digging but it's not being done at
00:54:34.660
what i guess you would call the traditional mainstream outlets all right i want to continue my
00:54:40.820
conversation with cheryl atkinson here in just a second you'll find her at fullmeasure.news
00:54:45.340
um and i want to go over this amazing piece that she wrote uh the media mistakes in the trump area
00:54:51.640
the definitive list and it is remarkable when you look at it go through some of the highlights here
00:54:58.540
in just a second cheryl atkinson will continue in one minute
00:55:01.540
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cheryl atkinson uh you have you have written the definitive list of media mistakes tell me why
00:57:03.060
this is important and why you did it first of all because without the complicity what's the word
00:57:10.500
not complacent but the complicit media that a lot of these problems that have happened wouldn't be
00:57:16.560
possible the media helped convince the press for example that for for two and a half three years that
00:57:22.900
the president was a putin russian stooge by suspending the normal ethical guidelines that require us to
00:57:29.780
not use anonymous sources unless certain things are done to check our facts and they've basically
00:57:36.560
in in large groups lifted their ethical standards and guidelines to cover this president and they've
00:57:43.140
stated the reason they're doing that is because he's so uniquely dangerous and i've always argued
00:57:48.380
that's even more important when we don't like somebody we're covering it's more important than ever to
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stand by our ethics and standards and we're just not and these mistakes which are happening at the
00:57:59.600
most formerly well-respected news outlets in the world mistakes that shouldn't happen in journalism
00:58:04.640
college are being committed over and over again and universally on one side if they were accidental
00:58:11.160
you might expect some of the mistakes at least half or at least a few would benefit president trump
00:58:18.060
and maybe there's some i've missed but i've been looking and i have not found any big media mistakes
00:58:23.080
that have benefited president trump yeah that's what i said about the chuck todd thing over the
00:58:28.320
weekend you know they said oh we inadvertently no you didn't no you didn't you have a problem
00:58:33.180
chuck todd should have known the full uh sod should have known the full uh the clip uh but he apparently
00:58:40.400
didn't or he just acted like he didn't um you have the editor they cut it you have the producer
00:58:46.960
no one no one along the line thought that that was unfair no one said hey what did he say right
00:58:52.320
after this is that really what he said they just seem to have this the feeling that they're bad
00:58:59.320
if it's not on this one they've done something else i mean just get them and any amateur you know
00:59:06.160
amateur should have known on the chuck todd quote if someone hands you a quote today i mean and i would
00:59:13.320
have done this years ago but especially today i would say i want to see the whole thing with my own
00:59:18.380
eyes in context right i want to see the whole transcript myself and read it i would never
00:59:24.060
look at a short excerpt of something and think that that that told the whole story it almost never
00:59:29.700
does by the way when i check out an original source when you hear some sort of you know outrageous clip
00:59:35.760
or accusation my take when i go view something original is almost always different than the one i'm
00:59:41.040
getting on the news which is bad so what did you find what are the what are the highlights of this
00:59:48.760
that really stick out to you cheryl on this list well you know i compile i started this glenn when i
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think i was at about 30 or 50 and i just keep adding to it but i would say really one that set the tone
01:00:02.940
for me was on president trump's inauguration day there was a false report by gosh i don't have it
01:00:12.220
in front of me i want to say time but i don't want to peg them if it wasn't them but a major news
01:00:18.400
national news publication falsely said that president trump had removed the bus statue of martin luther king
01:00:25.120
from the oval office right never happened and this is this would have been so easy this this is where
01:00:31.700
the basic tenets of journalism weren't followed if you think you saw the bus statue removed from the
01:00:37.180
oval office your obligation as a reporter is to hey tap someone on the shoulder in the secret service
01:00:42.780
or call the white house press office or do something to verify am i right about that because that was
01:00:49.360
wrong but that report circulated the globe within an hour and of course the mea culpa that oh that
01:00:57.500
didn't really happen those never are seen by the same number of people and that i think set the tone
01:01:02.920
because that was the narrative that president trump is racist a narrative that never existed until
01:01:07.600
media matters created it um through one of their affiliates you know shortly before the 2016 election
01:01:14.820
but that served the narrative and when these things serve a narrative these reporters seem to
01:01:19.800
just toss aside again basic journalism 101 and decide they don't have to verify facts or check their
01:01:26.820
information or or anything it's really shocking so do you see for instance in this obamagate thing i mean
01:01:36.360
i can't think of something president obama is right about one thing the rule of law is at stake he's just on
01:01:43.840
the wrong end of it i think um if if we don't fix this cheryl uh we spiral into something that is
01:01:53.240
really dark and dystopian i believe uh and it looks as though we're going to have half the country
01:01:58.680
believing one side that has been proven to be wrong over and over again uh or or you know or the other
01:02:05.360
side we we can't live like this is anything going to be done will anyone actually go to jail on this
01:02:14.400
uh what what happens from here i think there will be and i was told back in 2016 when this started by
01:02:23.580
some intel insiders they thought people would go to prison and they told me who they thought should
01:02:29.180
go to prison some top people but um i don't have any great faith that important people that pulled
01:02:36.780
strings will i mean i even hear people in the face of the obvious things that have happened based on
01:02:43.540
documentation we have i still hear people you know members of the republican party say things like well
01:02:49.480
you know we'll have to see if they didn't dot this i across the t and i'm thinking right it's not whether
01:02:55.860
they broke a specific tiny law it's the overarching coup theory here that's that's really important
01:03:02.440
cheryl atkinson thank you so much from full measure we'll tweet this article out in just a few
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this amazing uh interaction between a cbs news reporter and donald trump listen
01:04:57.200
said many times that the u.s is doing far better than any other country when it comes to testing yes
01:05:06.260
why does that matter why is this a global competition to you if everyday americans are still losing their
01:05:13.060
lives and we're still seeing more cases every day well they're losing their lives everywhere in the
01:05:18.760
world and maybe that's a question you should ask china don't ask me ask china that question okay when
01:05:26.240
you ask them that question you may get a very unusual answer yes behind you please
01:05:30.520
now she doesn't why are you saying she sits back down specifically i'm telling you i'm not saying it
01:05:38.820
specifically to anybody i'm saying it to anybody that would ask a nasty question like that that's not a
01:05:42.880
nasty please go ahead why does it matter okay uh anybody else please go ahead in the back please
01:05:48.760
i have two questions no it's okay but you pointed to me i have two questions mr next next please
01:05:54.460
but you didn't you called on me i did and you didn't respond and now i'm calling on sorry just
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the young lady in the back please i just wanted to let my colleague okay ladies and gentlemen thank
01:06:04.760
you very much appreciate it thank you very much this is exactly the way he should have handled it
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he should have handled it this way um first of all in case you weren't watching blaze tv or just
01:06:17.780
listening to it this woman she stands up she's from cbs she's wearing her face mask uh
01:06:24.220
and he says you should ask china about that she then sits down he calls on the woman behind her
01:06:31.540
and she stands up but walks forward and looks at the other girl from cbs and says do you want to
01:06:38.500
continue and that's when she leans up into the mic and says yeah why would takes her mask off yeah why
01:06:44.260
would you ask me now she's fully revealed as an asian woman uh and she was hinting that the president
01:06:50.980
is just a racist which you couldn't see the president had her mask on like she legitimately
01:06:56.820
could not you had no idea what you know you know nationality she may have been or whatever heritage
01:07:02.280
she had until she takes her mask off and then blames him for knowing what was behind the mask maybe he
01:07:07.220
did right uh but trying to insinuate it's racism and he says that all the time ask china ask china when
01:07:15.360
you're asking me uh questions maybe you should ask china some of these questions now what's amazing
01:07:21.560
about this in another uh sense is the fact that her question is you continually say we're doing better
01:07:31.200
than other countries why is this a global competition okay wait so now the president because the president
01:07:42.500
was under attack for so long saying we're behind every other country we're not doing it like all
01:07:48.280
these other countries we're going it alone we're doing all these crazy things maybe we should listen to
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the other countries now when he says we're doing better than all those other countries now why is it a
01:07:59.900
global competition this is why the president is so frustrated and i think why the american people are so
01:08:06.880
frustrated ask some damn questions that actually matter now the reason why the president is saying
01:08:16.400
ask china is because there's growing evidence that china screwed something up in a lab and accidentally
01:08:24.580
maybe released this coronavirus do you think that's maybe important maybe we should talk about our
01:08:33.220
bioweapons labs all around the world who should have them who shouldn't have them uh you know what what
01:08:38.920
is the state of china's ethics and the security at their labs this is the the real question is why was the
01:08:48.600
world unprepared we were unprepared because china lied to everyone but they don't want to ask that
01:08:55.820
question instead they want to make sure that everybody knows it's racist to say you know what in fact i don't
01:09:01.360
think i can do the rest of this segment can do we have the um coronavirus flu please thank you
01:09:06.740
this is just a little theme song we just put together
01:09:21.660
all right so it's the china flu because that's where it came from it should be called the wuhan flu
01:09:34.900
that's how we do the spanish flu that was mislabeled but we went with that that's what we thought at the
01:09:41.980
time it came from spain it didn't come from spain okay but we still call it the spanish flu
01:09:48.360
this one we know came from wuhan it's the wuhan flu or as our theme song says the china flu
01:09:58.520
now the president is getting hammered for being technically accurate and and following the way we
01:10:08.900
always name diseases always he's getting hammered but you know who didn't get hammered yesterday
01:10:17.780
i'll play the clip from cuomo will you when we started this yes we have more cases than anyone
01:10:25.860
else yes we had this european virus attack us and nobody expected it but we're not only going to
01:10:34.000
change our trajectory we're going to change the trajectory more dramatically than any place
01:10:39.940
else else in the nation why is this a competition why is this a competition governor cuomo and should
01:10:50.100
i ask the europeans why you're calling it a european virus oh my oh my god the inconsistency maybe call
01:10:59.160
it a european mutation but i think that actually is on the west coast isn't it the european mutation
01:11:06.080
well i mean look regardless of how we where it came from if it came from europe where did europe get
01:11:12.580
it well like what is the point of this i have no idea yeah i got news for you sarah do we have the
01:11:19.900
other do we have the other china virus because it makes me i mean you know we did the china flu thing
01:11:26.380
and and you know that was cute and everything but it makes me want to go to the other theme do we still
01:11:32.300
have that other theme all right yeah look that up i i can't take it the media is just ridiculous on
01:11:38.800
this you know i i went back it was late march when we were having remember he had these testing issues
01:11:43.440
at the beginning of march which was a real problem um and we started to ramp up testing and it was in
01:11:52.120
late march where uh science magazine came out and they said uh the u.s has been behind in testing
01:11:59.820
south korea is is completing an amazing i think the quote was an amazing a staggering staggering 15 000
01:12:07.960
tests a day 15 000 tests a day later that week the united states passed 15 000 tests a day and then
01:12:16.160
the press made this argument constantly well you haven't tested as many people overall and then we
01:12:21.800
passed south korea in overall testing then they started making the argument well per capita it is way
01:12:28.940
behind what south korea has done well now we are to the point where per capita we are miles ahead
01:12:36.200
of south korea and still the questions come in about how bad our testing is like there is never the goal
01:12:44.480
post gets moved every single time we we make it to the end zone and this this is a massive problem
01:12:50.460
for the media because they are solely focused on finding something they can just you know you know
01:12:56.220
hammer the president and hammer the job we've done when you know look when you look at the global
01:13:00.760
picture we've done a lot better than a lot of places but new york has not uh new york health department
01:13:10.080
we found out just had sent out 1600 damaged coronavirus tests for nursing homes uh they were unusable
01:13:19.760
hmm so they they sent those out to nursing homes meanwhile as we pointed out last week governor cuomo
01:13:30.220
instituted a policy that forced nursing homes to take in covid patients and that's why new york state
01:13:38.780
had more deaths in their nursing homes than the rest of the country combined uh he just and he just uh
01:13:49.020
announced yesterday officially putting an end to that policy that is forcing the nursing homes to
01:13:54.660
take covid patients so he is saying things like um you know the european virus oh it's a european virus
01:14:02.780
to keep in the good graces of the left and the left media he can only they can only cover him for so long
01:14:10.780
if they turn on him he's toast and he knows it he knows it so he's got to give them the little
01:14:18.480
gems along the way so they can pick those up and gain a little bit more power and he gets more
01:14:24.160
friendship power with those little gems because he's awful awful this this this great summary nursing
01:14:33.820
home thing is awful that seriously they knew it the nursing homes were begging for this to be changed
01:14:41.780
he did nothing he denied even knowing anything about it when his name and signature was on the
01:14:48.080
on the policy yeah and how did he not know about it yeah he he did and it's not better if he didn't
01:14:55.460
know is it i mean it's a terrible idea if he's running this response and the single most important
01:15:00.940
decision probably of the entire response would be do you decide to import covid positive patients
01:15:08.060
into nursing homes with the most vulnerable people in our society to this virus and he said yeah we should
01:15:14.000
and then when they said well what about it what if we test some people to make sure as they're coming
01:15:17.680
in they're not positive uh can we do that they said no you are banned from testing people who are
01:15:23.900
asymptomatic from for covid19 he did that and then he finally did reverse it uh yesterday which is
01:15:30.880
incredibly late but we should also point out he continues a policy uh which seems to be unique to
01:15:37.560
the entire united states where he is reporting deaths in nursing homes only if they actually died
01:15:45.280
at the nursing home so if they are a nursing home resident that goes to the hospital he is not
01:15:51.560
reporting it as a nursing home death which every other state in the union appears to be doing
01:15:56.340
which is why uh his numbers for nursing home deaths are actually considerably lower than reality
01:16:04.040
despite being the worst in the country and he continues to do this as well no reporter has asked him about
01:16:10.380
it yet but it continues to go on to this day well it just makes me want to play the other
01:16:21.000
i think this i think trump should play this every time we're going to talk about the
01:16:29.100
the china now it may be too far it may be too too far and very offensive uh but just
01:16:38.820
just for the journalists i think it should be played with apologies to every asian american every asian
01:16:47.880
ever born now in the past in the future really but just to go to the journalists i think every time he
01:16:59.880
now i just hope that they don't have a theme for the european virus which is really what's hurt our
01:17:08.340
country you know this yeah this italy we'll find one we'll get a we'll get a you know we'll get a i
01:17:17.100
don't know what you call those little squeeze box things from uh from italy or we'll get a new pop
01:17:21.760
pop band from germany and and we'll make that for and you know what no one would have a problem with
01:17:27.740
it not one person would have a problem with it all right biggest watchword of the modern era surely
01:17:35.220
has to be privacy i have to tell you there's a new story out about uh what they are what the democrats
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are looking to do on privacy it is terrifying it's a government surveillance by the way it's hr
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glad it's four sixes because we know three is really bad anyway privacy uh back in the wild west
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well if you want to get some really good advice what you need to do is listen to the democrats
01:19:32.680
on coronavirus because they've been right all the way along here they are the risk to new yorkers for
01:19:40.160
coronavirus is low and our city preparedness is high this should not stop you from going about your
01:19:46.960
life should not stop you from going to chinatown and going out to eat i'm going to do that today
01:19:50.520
myself come to chinatown here we are we're again careful safe and come join us there is no concern at
01:20:01.200
this time for coronavirus in our region the department of sanitation is ready for mardi gras 2020
01:20:07.000
the facts are reassuring we want new yorkers to go about their daily lives but there's really no need
01:20:14.300
to panic and to avoid activities that we always do as new yorkers we are hardy people americans do not
01:20:21.640
need to panic what i would suggest however is that americans take this as a wake-up call for seasonal flu
01:20:29.340
there's very little threat here this disease even if you were to get it basically acts like a common
01:20:34.560
cold or flu so we're telling new yorkers go about your lives take the subway go out enjoy life and
01:20:42.860
certainly not to miss the parade next sunday i'm gonna be there if you had to would you close down
01:20:48.980
the borders no we need to be honest about the american people with the american people about the
01:20:55.560
fact that we can't keep people coming here from china and transmission is not that easy i think
01:21:00.520
there's been a misperception um that coronavirus hangs in the air waiting to catch you no it takes
01:21:05.480
direct person-to-person contact we also know that if it were likely to be transmitted casually we would
01:21:12.720
be seeing a lot more cases right right because this is new york and you're in elevators and chains
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with everybody all the time unbelievable unbelievable of course you know nobody will ever hold them
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responsible we will we will megan kelly and her interview with tara reed coming up in one minute
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there are only five journalists i think that i can name that uh i really respect uh and i trust them
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three of those journalists are women we just had cheryl atkinson on she's one i would love to have
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are you hey glenn good to see you oh good to see you i didn't know you were going to be on on skype as
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well great glad to have you i'll make it for you well thank you thank you um so megan i watched your
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ringer you could see that too this is not a woman of great means and um you know when i got to her
01:27:29.920
she had i think the night before hired well not hired she's not paying him but gotten a lawyer
01:27:35.540
and a pr person for the first time in this whole thing so she for the first time felt a little bit
01:27:41.080
more steady you know she's had no protection and she's out there you know she's on a very thin reed
01:27:46.200
and she's getting it from all sides and she's got no team glenn you know what i mean there's there's
01:27:50.560
no natural constituency backing her so she was a little i don't know if the word's fragile but
01:27:56.400
maybe just a little unsteady so how shocked do you think she was because i i say this to people all
01:28:03.340
the time they say i want to come out take a stand or i just want to agree with whatever and i'll say
01:28:08.540
to people all the time are you really aware people don't know megan until unless they've lived your
01:28:14.900
life or my life or tara's life now how horrible uh the media and social media can be i mean there
01:28:25.640
it is a business of destroying people now oh yeah it's how shocked how shocked was she by that and
01:28:34.560
what kind of damage has been done to her well i mean i think she was expecting to have her
01:28:39.080
credibility questioned you know you you you better be if you're going to come out and accuse somebody
01:28:43.260
running for president of something as serious as this she's not you know dummy she understood she
01:28:48.180
was going to take hits in terms of whatever you know is she credible does the story make sense
01:28:53.160
but you know her bankruptcy got posted online they're going back to 1993 and looking for
01:28:58.820
did she bounce a check it's like you know what i put myself through law school and you want to go
01:29:03.740
back and look at my bounce checks you're going to find a lot of them you know it doesn't mean i'm not
01:29:07.440
a credible person a lot of us were poor when we were in our 20s and so i think that part of it has
01:29:12.460
been rough that somebody posted a picture and her address of her daughter uh who's you know in her 20s
01:29:19.240
and that's messed up she's getting death threats over this just you know the media is totally
01:29:23.720
irresponsible and people are so nasty and social media is so awful so i think she's she's a little rattled but
01:29:30.360
you know all things considered she was holding it together okay so has the me too movement changed
01:29:35.660
anything i mean if you accuse the right person it's good if you accuse the wrong person it's not i mean
01:29:43.760
has has it changed anything for women i mean because if i were a woman and i had a story to tell i would
01:29:49.760
be terrified after seeing what's happening to her well i will say this i think political accusers you know
01:29:56.000
accusers in a political race get it the worst right it's like not not that like the harvey
01:30:01.020
weinstein accusers had it so right for god's sake rose mcgowan right secret agents following her and
01:30:06.140
trying to dupe her but if you come forward whether it's trump biden uh roy moore you know as an accuser
01:30:13.120
in an election year you're going to get it worse because as we've seen with tara reid even
01:30:17.780
constituencies that might naturally support you are now suddenly very suspicious of you
01:30:22.260
um so i think that's rough but to your question about the me too movement it's done some good i
01:30:27.940
think there's no question it's done some good in calling attention to the fact that you know there
01:30:31.960
is harassment in the workplace most women for most of time have just gone along with it because we
01:30:37.740
kind of were told this is how you make it in a man's world and so just sort of putting that
01:30:42.500
asterisk in people's minds like this is a thing and you know you should probably at least listen when a
01:30:48.560
woman comes forward and actually putting the heads that they can come forward if they have something
01:30:53.380
all good but um the pendulum you know which was over here when it came to women's allegations like
01:31:01.460
when i was in college back in the early 90s if you came out with a rape allegation you were probably
01:31:07.340
going to be dismissed a lot more easily than you would be today so that so the pendulum needed to swing
01:31:12.840
but like so many of these things we've over corrected to a point where now the accused they haven't been
01:31:19.180
getting due process you can make a single allegation that's unsupported and ruin a guy's career over 30
01:31:24.240
years that's not okay either you know we got to get to a place where we settle where the women are taken
01:31:29.780
seriously or the men accusing um they're heard but due process is afforded to the person being accused
01:31:36.260
so if if tar reed is the person who can do that by exposing the hypocrisy of some of the democrats who
01:31:43.720
have you know with the believe all women nonsense which was never sincere then she's done good for
01:31:48.900
the country and you know we'll see whether her allegation has impact beyond that okay so i want to
01:31:54.900
come back to the listening versus believing and the impact on politics and stuff in a second but i i want
01:32:00.700
to go you know you just said if you made a rape allegation in the 80s or 90s uh you would have been in
01:32:05.740
trouble and what they probably would have done is shuts a slut shamed you uh and i noticed a little
01:32:10.840
bit of this with her answers first where uh you know stop wearing short skirts and she said i wasn't
01:32:17.900
wearing short skirts i was just wearing stuff off the rack um uh but then i thought one of the most
01:32:24.320
uncomfortable things that she said because i think she knew um and she felt the old slut shaming kind
01:32:33.500
of thing about her underwear and how uh without getting graphic how biden gained access um and
01:32:42.780
you could see she was uncomfortable with that because of her mother and she didn't want to tell
01:32:46.800
her mother that and that makes sense to me and it makes sense to me that she wouldn't want to say
01:32:51.560
anything and it makes sense to me that she understood the slut shaming thing that she's asking for it
01:32:59.400
look at her skirts i'll put my lawyer head on now and argue it both ways right you can you can say
01:33:05.420
she was uncomfortable having that discussion because she didn't really want to reveal to the
01:33:08.460
world that she was wearing what i think she was saying were crotchless underwear to to work at the
01:33:15.260
u.s senate because she was supposed to see her boyfriend later and that was her story um or you could
01:33:22.160
say she seemed uncomfortable because she wasn't telling the truth um because she had to explain how he
01:33:27.540
could gain access under her skirt so quickly and you know there's there's a belief by some on capitol
01:33:33.220
hill that all the women back then in 92 93 were wearing pantyhose that it was an either an unwritten
01:33:38.560
rule or an actual rule you had to wear pantyhose on your legs and therefore biden couldn't have done
01:33:42.720
this so you know that's up to the viewer i really believe well over the course of a 40 minute interview
01:33:49.060
like that they'll walk away with a good sense as to whether they're they're seeing a truth teller or not
01:33:53.600
did you see a truth teller or not well i'm not gonna opine on my own personal belief because i
01:34:01.000
want to continue reporting on this case and i you know i shouldn't choose a sign i mean i definitely
01:34:05.120
have my own belief but it's irrelevant so uh the uh what is it the karen person that is not a real name
01:34:15.960
can you tell me uh tell me about and not i don't know i don't want to know who she is but tell me
01:34:22.720
about her and why she is important and why she's not comfortable coming out okay so karen is by far
01:34:30.740
tara reed's best witness um she tara has you know a corroborating witness that is far more compelling
01:34:39.140
than anything we saw from christine blasey ford i mean far more compelling um far more i mean there's
01:34:45.120
no there's no contest and anybody who tells you differently is lying to you um karen is the
01:34:50.980
person who was friends with tara on capitol hill and was in ted kennedy's office this is a young
01:34:56.820
intern at the time they befriended one another and tara told karen contemporaneously with the alleged
01:35:02.220
assault that it had happened and according to karen tara's never deviated in a single detail over
01:35:10.320
30 years about what allegedly happened that day now i've spoken with karen at length she's a
01:35:16.420
professional she's smart she's on it you know you talk to her and you're like okay i this is a very
01:35:22.000
credible person who's been successful in her life um but at best what that establishes for tara
01:35:30.080
is that tara told karen this happened it doesn't prove that it actually happened and so you know you
01:35:36.680
you would have to believe there's something a little wacky about tara right that she would
01:35:41.060
back then be making a story like this but glenn that happens sometimes sometimes that does happen
01:35:47.840
i'm not saying it happened here but people do need to allow for the possibility that tara did make that
01:35:53.080
up and has been telling witnesses for 30 years because it's a story that somehow meant something to her
01:35:58.660
and she decided to spread it okay so i want to let me take a one minute break and then i'm gonna come
01:36:05.800
back with you uh megan and and follow up there that we we have to you know give the benefit of the doubt
01:36:15.440
that maybe she did make that up and there's another screw loose we don't know we'll go there here in
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so you said to uh one of my producers uh megan that the media's cover no no sorry uh that it is
01:38:01.120
a haunting case in more ways than one that's a quote from you why why what do you mean by that
01:38:08.620
because if it's true it's deeply disturbing information about joe biden deeply disturbing
01:38:15.260
i mean it's sick what kind of a man would in passing in a senate hallway when seeing a young
01:38:21.940
staff assistant sexually assault her right if you if you give her the benefit of the doubt and say i
01:38:27.280
believe her do you really want that man as president right and if it's not true um then then this is sort
01:38:35.960
of one of those situations where you got to ask what's happened to the country where someone can
01:38:40.460
make an allegation it can besmirch uh a former vice president a former u.s senator and all the media
01:38:48.040
now finally is talking about it um and you know it's just very easy to sort of put that ring around
01:38:54.920
somebody's neck maybe unfairly uh but the but the number one thing i want to say about the haunting
01:39:00.520
nature of it is it just exposed how just how false um these people who are pretending their women's
01:39:12.580
advocates are it upsets me as a woman as somebody who actually has stood for female empowerment for
01:39:19.100
my entire life i don't call myself a feminist but i defy anybody to challenge me on standing up for
01:39:24.540
female empowerment um i've done it and i have the a career that proves it however the the nonsense
01:39:30.700
by these people who were protesting against brett kavanaugh were vicious against him i mean vicious
01:39:36.880
remember those women who stormed the capitol and and we're just calling the worst possible names
01:39:41.660
the 180 that they have done now that the allegations are again are against a democrat trying to take down
01:39:49.000
trump is disgusting to me disgusting so megan that brings me to the place where i was under trump
01:39:58.700
under kavanaugh and kavanaugh was a little different because uh i went in to listen to her testimony and
01:40:06.080
i was open-minded i don't know kavanaugh i didn't know at all i wanted to hear her by the end i was like
01:40:12.220
well maybe i don't think so but maybe and then i listened to kavanaugh they didn't have anything
01:40:18.320
and so how could you possibly do it but even if you even if you do believe that maybe this happened
01:40:27.940
uh what do you do with that knowledge i mean these people who are coming out and saying
01:40:34.600
i believe he did do it but i'm going to vote for him anyway that i don't understand because this is
01:40:41.600
i can make their case their case is trump's worse they think well he was accused by over 12 women
01:40:47.280
of some sort of harassment or assault so you know if i gotta if i gotta pick i'll go with the guy who's
01:40:53.380
got my letter on the big d on the front right but if you are uh one that said how can these people vote
01:41:02.060
for donald trump because he's so awful he did these things i have i have tried to stay listen to people
01:41:09.680
listen to the accusers they should not be believed they should be listened to and taken seriously
01:41:16.780
then when they prevent uh present evidence weigh that evidence but i still am uncomfortable
01:41:24.740
tara is the closest i've come to where she has a lot of evidence but i don't want to destroy
01:41:34.960
someone's career on my gut i don't know this is not a good process i'll say this in both the blasey
01:41:43.320
ford and the tara reid case we're we're dealing with something similar the women didn't come forward
01:41:48.700
until 30 or 40 years after the fact right blasey ford was like i don't know and tara's 30 um it is
01:41:57.100
very hard to put a guy in that position of having to defend that you know i mean the the the lack of
01:42:04.080
memory the absence of details i mean and i'll just take biden's point of view for the for the moment
01:42:09.880
if she had come forward a week after this happened or a month after this happened he could go back he
01:42:14.660
could look at his date book he could tell you where he was that he could find witnesses who had just
01:42:18.760
seen him he could you know there'd be a way to defend against the allegations same for kavanaugh
01:42:24.580
100 same for kavanaugh but when you're going to slap somebody with these allegations decades after the
01:42:29.280
fact it and then not even be specific about when and i understand maybe the women don't genuinely
01:42:34.380
don't understand when and where exactly um it gets tougher to just give them the benefit of the
01:42:40.860
doubt right because you're talking about destroying a person's career their livelihood i mean brett
01:42:46.460
kavanaugh they wanted to talk about what he did when he was allegedly or allegedly did when he was 16
01:42:50.660
he went on to lead a stellar professional life not even a whiff of an inappropriate allegation and all
01:42:59.000
the time he was on the disease and so on and yet they were like he must be destroyed you know he he's a
01:43:04.740
rape apologist he's always it's like oh my god now biden he's he has a whiff there's been a whiff of
01:43:10.440
inappropriate handsy oh yeah but nothing approaching sexual assault of this nature but i just think
01:43:17.020
we we do put people in really tough positions it's not to say you shouldn't come forward if you have
01:43:22.060
an allegation like this you want to be heard but it it makes your case far less compelling the more
01:43:26.620
time that goes on all right so i appreciate that you're going to stick with us um through the next
01:43:33.040
break when we come back i want to talk to you a little bit about what's happening in washington with
01:43:36.660
general flynn with now what trump is calling obamagate and and really megan what i'm looking for is
01:43:43.960
who do we trust how can we survive as a nation if half of us believe one thing and the other half
01:43:53.220
believes another and especially now that we i just had cheryl atkinson on and she just did a list of
01:43:59.420
130 lies the media has told about donald trump that are now provable provable uh and yet they're going to
01:44:08.900
be probably half the country that still goes along with them and there's no there doesn't seem to be
01:44:13.620
any consequence to anything anymore that's real so who do we trust how do we find the truth
01:44:20.920
we'll continue with megan kelly coming up in just a second thank you so much for being on megan
01:44:42.580
all right you then let me tell you about gold line uh i put my money where my mouth is if i tell you
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about relief factor it's because i take it uh you know the the real estate agents i trust because
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that's my company um rough greens i feed my dog that gold line i just bought some of these they just
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have i don't even know if they have any left now you should check but they had 1901 1903 uh quarter ounce
01:45:11.840
gold coins and i bought some of these because i believe it i believe gold is going to be uh the last
01:45:18.780
resort um i don't buy things as an investment when it comes to gold i don't buy it as an investment i
01:45:24.200
i buy it as a hedge against insanity and when i start to see the world not be so insane or going down
01:45:32.680
that path of insanity and then i'll stop you know recommending gold but the world is insane what we're
01:45:39.400
doing financially is crazy and has never worked now jp morgan uh chase bank all of these people have
01:45:46.720
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01:46:05.500
this is the glenn beck program we're uh thrilled to have megan kelly on with us for the full hour
01:46:20.700
here where she just did a tara reed interview if you haven't seen it you need to see it um it really
01:46:27.140
gets down to the bottom and then you're just going to have to decide whether you believe her or not and
01:46:30.920
then what do you do about that information megan um i asked you a question about who do we trust
01:46:36.820
uh but before we get to that can you just tell me the listener um what is happening with the general
01:46:45.900
flynn fbi barack obama obamagate donald trump thing now what what is this story really what's happening
01:46:54.840
i mean my view of it as a lawyer is the obama administration unfairly set up and targeted
01:47:02.200
general flynn and they got him and they threatened his son and he pleaded guilty and then he decided
01:47:09.360
that was a mistake and tried to undo it and this doj has said you know what yeah we think it was
01:47:15.500
partisan and we're going to come up with a reason to get rid of the charges against you so i do think it
01:47:20.520
was probably i mean what this doj is saying well you're lying you lied but it wasn't material so we
01:47:28.120
didn't really have a case against you because it has to be both a lie and it has to be a material lie
01:47:32.040
they're saying we didn't really have you on material uh because he was he he told the fbi that he hadn't
01:47:36.780
had this conversation with the russian ambassador when he had coming into the trump administration
01:47:41.700
and they're saying it wasn't material so you know what never mind forget your guilty plea forget
01:47:45.760
everything and people are like oh it's totally cynical it's political it is material i mean i
01:47:51.820
think the bar for materiality is pretty low so if the doj had wanted to stick it to flynn and continue
01:47:58.460
you know going after him they easily could have but i see it more as an evening of the scales you know
01:48:04.860
the i love how the press and and obama's defenders want to talk about the doj under president obama like
01:48:12.540
it was this totally independent highbrow committed to only justice in the law organization please
01:48:20.260
did anybody cover that doj does anybody remember eric holder declaring himself an activist that he
01:48:27.780
was proud of it he got rid of all these career lawyers he replaced them with partisans who are loyal
01:48:32.980
to him he didn't enforce the immigration laws that were on the books because that's what his boss
01:48:38.540
obama won like can you spare me the moralizing right so i i think bill bar he evened the scales
01:48:46.820
and now we're back at at least as far as michael flynn goes uh when it comes to justice we're back
01:48:51.940
at zero although i think flynn would say where do i go to get my reputation back i'm not crying too
01:48:56.500
many years about that because you know you should tell the fbi the truth so i'm not too i i i
01:49:01.680
so do you think there's anything to the the charges now that this was a uh a setup and that
01:49:12.860
obama was orchestrating a setup to hurt donald trump's campaign i don't know the answer to that
01:49:21.180
i'll say this president obama sure did have a lot of direct contacts with the fbi
01:49:26.100
um in a way that was pretty unusual and that actually excluded uh his person over the doj
01:49:33.800
sally yates and why was he doing that like what what would i think we need to know more so i'm glad
01:49:39.600
they're investigating i am open-minded to the possibility that things may not have been completely
01:49:44.280
kosher uh in the relationship between the executive branch and the doj and in particular the fbi
01:49:49.780
under president obama now megan i may have been really naive and stupid and most of my life i have
01:49:56.220
been um but i remember in the good old days actually trusting the justice department you know to us to to
01:50:06.040
the most degree um uh the fbi was credible with me um it's not that they could do no wrong but there
01:50:14.580
would be a rogue agent or something i no longer believe in the justice system i don't believe in
01:50:20.880
so many of these things because there's just too many questions and nobody ever seems to really come
01:50:27.120
down to the answer it's always political it's always political so so so how do we find the truth how do we
01:50:36.540
survive without a media who do you run to when you don't trust the police you don't trust the government
01:50:44.400
and you don't trust the watchdog the media who do you go to i have the same frustration glenn um
01:50:51.640
you know i early on in the covid um story i sent out a tweet saying i'm so frustrated right now
01:50:58.740
because you know essentially president trump does not have exactly what we'd call an adult relationship
01:51:05.240
with the truth and the media is even worse they're even worse you know it's like i love how the media is
01:51:13.020
like trump he didn't have it right on covid in the in the very beginning of march and he was lying and
01:51:18.020
all this stuff and it's like that and we the media we were explaining everything to you and you should
01:51:22.400
have believed us and and there's no self-reflection why didn't we believe you none you know it's it's
01:51:28.900
the classic boy who cried wolf for for three years now everything president trump touches anything
01:51:34.440
that could damage his his administration has been an 11 it's an 11 it's an 11 alert and now when they
01:51:41.160
finally got to something that we really needed to pay attention to and they were like another 11
01:51:45.120
most americans were like i don't trust you anymore i can see this could be damaging to president trump
01:51:51.280
and that's the last story i would trust the media on and i i myself had that same feeling and i didn't
01:51:57.960
trust trump's information either when he had that presser and he was saying that he was shutting down
01:52:01.460
travel from europe which only turned out to be partially true and kind of a mistake i i am frustrated
01:52:06.120
myself because i don't have like the one source i can go to where i'm like okay that that person's
01:52:12.160
going to be totally honest with me i have a couple that i listen to or that i read but it's tough you
01:52:16.480
got to actively work for it so what happens to a republic when most people aren't going to read
01:52:24.440
they're not going to look into it themselves i hear from people all the time glenn you say do your
01:52:28.260
own homework how how i don't even know how to do my own homework and there are so many conspiracy
01:52:34.640
theories and then on top of it you have youtube saying you know the average person in their
01:52:41.300
basement they don't have a valuable opinion we can censor those people wait that's what you built
01:52:46.200
your business on and that only makes things worse you know when they say only if you disagree with the
01:52:54.080
who then you're not credible well wait a minute wait a minute uh we should question the who
01:53:01.000
show and it's just feeding on to itself over and over again well and to your point about you know
01:53:07.900
the fbi i used to feel as you felt too i mean i was i was sort of in the justice system for 10 years
01:53:13.080
as a litigator and i had nothing but reverence for the doj for the attorney general for the fbi i mean i
01:53:19.240
had sort of been raised to believe in them and to give them complete benefit of the doubt i used to
01:53:26.060
think comey was you know like a a national hero the story at the deathbed like the comey i really
01:53:32.540
admired what a 180 right now he like i see him so differently but it's a good lesson it's a good
01:53:39.680
lesson you know just because they get this sort of big badge we shouldn't necessarily give them big
01:53:43.760
deference and i i mean i will tell you what i do as somebody who's just a private citizen at the
01:53:48.640
moment you know trying to figure life out every morning i go to real clear politics.com and i've been
01:53:54.720
doing this for over 10 years real clear politics.com and they take an editorial from the left and
01:54:00.380
one from the right and they always have both sides of every issue and i read them both and glenn if
01:54:05.800
you take a one from the left and one from the right and put them kind of on top of each other
01:54:09.120
like transparency style back from when we were in school um a set of facts begin to emerge and you
01:54:15.660
can see them being spun one way or the other but you do emerge with a set of facts that each side
01:54:20.860
is sort of grappling with and that's that's the best i know how to do right now as far as faith
01:54:25.800
in government institutions i think one of the good things trump has done is rattle that you know he
01:54:31.460
yeah if he hadn't thrown such a fit about the fbi would we know what comey is would we know about
01:54:37.180
peter and lisa and their texts and their affair you know their willingness their intent to get flynn
01:54:42.960
among others we wouldn't so it's more information is better are you uh are you concerned at all with
01:54:49.400
the coronavirus of some of these states where i mean you know we don't even know if elon musk is
01:54:54.620
going to be locked up today i kind of hope just because it'll be entertaining um because he will
01:54:59.200
never let it go but you know some of these states have been very draconian are you concerned that the
01:55:05.200
american people are you know the the spying the the adopting of new technologies that are for the
01:55:13.880
virus but i doubt they'll go away are you concerned about any of that stuff
01:55:17.460
i mean what concerns me right now is how anyone who's focused on the 30 million unemployed
01:55:24.620
wants to kill grandma right that's the narrative in the press if you have any
01:55:29.920
empathy for concern about the economy the people whose lives have been ruined by the loss of their
01:55:36.840
livelihood their lifelong job their lifelong career you you want people to die it's such a false
01:55:43.140
narrative and i think you know we're now at the point where we really have managed to flatten the
01:55:47.740
curve at like for example my home state of new york um and we have to get real about the fact that
01:55:52.760
life is going to go on and human beings are not going to stay inside for much longer they're just
01:55:57.660
not going to i mean the notion that you can say we have to stay inside until we find a vaccine
01:56:02.960
or we have to continue the life crazy bull baloney they're not going to do it that's not
01:56:07.300
in our dna as americans and it's not because we don't care about grandma you know it's just we
01:56:12.820
freedom is built into us as a people and there's only so much people are willing to sacrifice of
01:56:20.920
their own lives their children's livelihoods before they say we have to find a compromise we got to find
01:56:25.580
a way that people can get back to work and we can still do something reasonable to mitigate the losses
01:56:31.000
i think we i agreed at the time of of shutting things down because of the overwhelming of the
01:56:37.000
hospital systems we just couldn't we just couldn't do that um but what we've done instead with the
01:56:45.040
the shutting down of the entire economy for this long i i i worry about what's coming next with the
01:56:52.020
economy i mean i i just i look at governor i don't know and i'm i'm a new yorker in governor
01:56:57.840
governor cuomo new york when he first started coming out with his press conferences i was like
01:57:01.420
okay i like this i like being told the good news and the bad news and then i'll make up my own mind
01:57:06.900
about whether i think your policy makes sense now it's totally morphed like now his line is really
01:57:12.840
truly like what one life you know it one life makes all the difference and we'll deal with the
01:57:18.880
financial impact later like that's that's not that was since when is that u.s policy that we
01:57:24.860
have to completely shut down all risk to any one life i mean when you're talking about not only that
01:57:29.720
that's one thing but we can't keep the economy shut to protect one potential life you will have
01:57:36.120
massive loss of life because the economy tanks nobody's looking at that side and i i i got hammered
01:57:42.540
from the left and seemingly everybody else by saying we are destroying lives and destroying
01:57:50.860
rights by trying to uh hold up a right that none of us have a right to and that is to always be safe
01:57:59.620
there's there's no way possible for that to happen um we don't have a right to just save one life by
01:58:07.080
by taking the rights away from everyone that's not a lie you weren't born with that right
01:58:12.080
you are going to run into risk nine times out of ten the people who i see you know lecturing people
01:58:17.640
on how they ought to be they ought to be quiet about the economy are people who are journalists
01:58:22.280
and who have jobs and steady paychecks you know how can you judge somebody who goes to one of these
01:58:27.460
protests and you know you shouldn't get too close and you should be respectful and the masks are good
01:58:32.480
but like how can you judge somebody who can't pay their mortgage or their rent can't pay for their
01:58:37.980
kids food or schooling and trying to get their voice out there because they don't have a national
01:58:43.640
microphone to say this is wrong and i matter too you know i just it upsets me the the elitism i see
01:58:51.420
amongst the journalists like oh the neanderthals who don't care about human life
01:58:55.540
megan i don't know how you've stayed so normal but i'm glad you have thank you so much for all the
01:59:03.660
work that you uh all the work that you do and stay healthy we'll talk again thanks you too my friend
01:59:08.820
good to see you you bet uh megan kelly uh if you have not seen her interview with uh tara reed
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you need to uh it'll i think it'll answer all of your questions that you might have on this joe biden
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thing uh all right somewhere in america within the sound of my voice there is a man stepping through
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janitorial staff is bouncing off of the table because of those lights they're glad by the way to be back
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are careworn and a little tense they're all starting over they look at him to lead them to the promised
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land yeah he's wearing a suit wouldn't be a board meeting if he didn't would it but beneath those
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so what'd you think of megan uh and her analysis on things still i thought she was great honestly i
02:01:30.260
mean i think she was uh very smart perspective on all on those topics and you know she was able to
02:01:36.800
you know there's just not a lot of people who do what she's doing anymore and there's no she doesn't
02:01:41.160
come from a big partisan side of the of things and she kind of just lays out what she thinks is true
02:01:46.080
and i i at least at this point more probably more than ever value people who at least i believe are
02:01:52.780
giving me their actual opinion even if it's not right at least i believe they're not manipulating it
02:01:59.120
to try to fit some sort of uh market signal um and i don't think she was very careful not to give her
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opinion especially on tara reid right she didn't give her opinion she gave a good good analysis of
02:02:11.420
of what occurred and and that you know it was nice to hear that i think where i'm not getting i think
02:02:16.380
if i we went to some left-wing source who did that interview you would see uh you know the typical um
02:02:23.380
you know all of a sudden they wouldn't believe no women go to that side of it and if you went to a
02:02:29.560
you know there was a lot of push for reid to go do an interview with a um much more partisan
02:02:35.480
conservative republican type of host and i don't think that would have done her story uh any value
02:02:42.540
i mean i don't think it's bad for her to do it now but i think the first interview would it was smart
02:02:46.320
to go to somebody who could be you know who has played these issues and and dealt with them very
02:02:52.380
seriously in the past but also would ask her tough questions and i think that was it was a good
02:02:56.440
balance i think it was a smart move by reid actually i think if megan's smart i think what
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she's doing is she's setting herself up and i hate to use this as an example but it's the only one
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where barbara barbara walters was the one that you wanted to have to do the definitive interview with
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yeah uh and if she continues down this path that that's what she will become