The Glenn Beck Program - The Pandemic of Fear ｜ Guests： Rep. Rodney Davis & Darren Beattie

00:00:00.160 Thank you so much, Hillary. Yeah, my calendar, I think it's going to turn around again, and it's going to hit us, I think, 2025 is the year for that.

00:00:07.920 Glenn is joining us from home today. Not feeling so well, but powering through.

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00:02:16.700 Hello, America, and welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:23.780 Yesterday, I was diagnosed with having COVID.

00:02:26.380 So I am broadcasting from home, my man cave today because it's January 6th.

00:02:34.220 And there is just too much to talk about on January 6th.

00:02:39.120 The record really needs to be set straight.

00:02:41.220 And if you missed last night's interview with Donald Trump, I think it was one of the better interviews he's done.

00:02:48.380 And you will feel very optimistic.

00:02:51.300 I wanted to point out a couple of things that came out in the interview that maybe you missed.

00:02:58.200 We'll do that coming up.

00:02:59.580 And I want to hear from you about the Trump interview.

00:03:02.380 If you watched it last night, the number is 888-727-BECK.

00:03:06.340 But we start with January 6th in 60 seconds.

00:03:15.760 So, you know, we were just listening to Chad Prather on Blaze TV.

00:03:20.980 He does a show on Blaze TV and podcast.

00:03:23.540 He's very, very funny.

00:03:24.340 But he also did a great monologue on how many things we were supposed to die of.

00:03:32.160 All the fear-mongering that has gone on for a long time.

00:03:37.780 In fact, can we play that real quick?

00:03:40.740 Here's Chad Prather.

00:03:41.640 Listen.

00:03:42.720 They have us under the tyrannical thumbs.

00:03:44.260 Look at all the crap they've been peddling for years now.

00:03:48.980 Just health, technology, all the things they've used to scare us.

00:03:52.420 In 2000, Y2K was going to destroy civilization.

00:03:55.300 In 2001, we were all going to die from anthrax.

00:03:57.360 In 2002, West Nile virus was going to kill us all.

00:03:59.860 In 2003, SARS was going to wipe us out.

00:04:01.820 In 2005, it was the bird flu we were worrying about.

00:04:04.140 In 2006, E. coli was definitely going to get us.

00:04:06.340 In 2008, none of us were going to survive the market collapse.

00:04:09.040 In 2009, it was swine flu that was going to kill us.

00:04:11.300 In 2012, the mine calendar ran out.

00:04:14.080 Remember that?

00:04:14.700 The end was at hand.

00:04:16.480 In 2013, North Korea was going to start World War III.

00:04:19.580 In 2014, none of us were going to survive the outbreak of Ebola.

00:04:23.220 In 2015, Donald Trump was going to get us into a war with the entire world.

00:04:26.960 In 2016, if the Zika virus didn't kill us, then ISIS would.

00:04:30.560 In 2018, it was climate change that was shutting us down.

00:04:33.160 In 2020, to present day, of course, you know it was the novel coronavirus

00:04:37.280 and all of its subsequent variants that had our number.

00:04:40.020 The only thing that has remained the same through all of this is fear.

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00:06:09.460 All right.

00:06:13.480 Excuse the way I sound today.

00:06:15.840 I've been diagnosed with COVID, which is much less than it was the first time I had COVID

00:06:23.440 before there was a vaccine.

00:06:24.860 And I'll get into this here in a minute because I think it's important that you understand

00:06:29.780 what's really going on with COVID.

00:06:33.940 And it looks like I think we're going to end up being the ones that were right this whole time.

00:06:40.660 But we'll get into that a little later on in the program.

00:06:43.140 It is January 6th.

00:06:44.860 And I really wanted to start with, you know, letting America know who we are.

00:06:58.540 And I don't mean you.

00:06:59.860 You know who we are.

00:07:01.700 I mean letting people know in the media and the left.

00:07:06.040 I shouldn't say the left.

00:07:07.620 Democrats.

00:07:08.820 Democrats.

00:07:09.540 Because I think there's a ton of Democrats right now that are tired of all this stuff.

00:07:14.700 They're not leftist Marxist.

00:07:16.300 They're not.

00:07:17.820 And I feel like they're trapped and they don't know what to do because they don't necessarily

00:07:22.400 trust our side.

00:07:23.900 But they don't trust their side.

00:07:25.620 And so we have to lead by example.

00:07:31.680 I want to shock our detractors today.

00:07:35.400 CNN predicted today will be about division and President Biden in the left will deliver

00:07:40.640 solemn remarks while former President Trump of the right going to spin justifications for

00:07:45.740 the actions of January 6th.

00:07:47.760 No, I'm not going to do that.

00:07:48.900 There is no justification for January 6th.

00:07:51.440 There isn't.

00:07:51.980 It was wrong.

00:07:52.820 Period.

00:07:54.240 Enough said.

00:07:55.620 Like every major conservative voice, I have and continue to openly and clearly condemn

00:08:04.580 what happened on January 6th.

00:08:06.440 At the heart of the conservative movement, we honor our institutions.

00:08:11.920 We don't believe in resorting to violence.

00:08:15.660 We were the victims.

00:08:18.520 We were the ones trying to stand up and say, please stop the riots on the street all during

00:08:25.120 the summer.

00:08:26.820 We don't believe in employing chaos to achieve our goals.

00:08:30.460 That's not who we are.

00:08:31.600 We treat each other peacefully and decently.

00:08:34.940 Most of the country is not like the coast.

00:08:37.680 It's not like L.A.

00:08:38.720 It's not like Portland.

00:08:39.820 And it's it's not like New York or Boston or Philadelphia.

00:08:46.520 It's really more like Florida.

00:08:50.040 Florida is kind of a purplish state.

00:08:52.340 And everybody kind of gets along.

00:08:55.900 You know, everybody's like, hey, you know, I don't care who you voted for.

00:08:59.680 You know, don't tell me what to do.

00:09:01.820 And I won't tell you what to do.

00:09:03.760 We believe in treating each other decently.

00:09:07.040 And any outlet trying to paint a different picture of us or you is desperately clinging

00:09:13.460 to a division that just doesn't exist.

00:09:16.840 Today is a really important day as a reminder.

00:09:22.120 Look what happens when somebody loses control.

00:09:25.840 Look what happens when somebody raises up, rises up in violence.

00:09:30.260 The left has been begging for us to do it.

00:09:32.980 And I think they're well, we'll get into that here in a second.

00:09:35.680 But they need us to be violent.

00:09:38.040 They want us to be hateful.

00:09:39.740 And when we're not, their understanding of us collapses.

00:09:44.200 Well, let it collapse.

00:09:46.380 Let it.

00:09:46.960 Because those that say we are violent, they don't understand us.

00:09:57.340 They don't know us.

00:09:58.660 That's not who we are.

00:10:00.180 To anyone who wants to drown us in division, no.

00:10:06.240 I won't be a part of it.

00:10:07.620 For anybody who wants the anniversary of January 6th to be a reminder of how low we went, we

00:10:14.420 say January 6th will be the day that we go high.

00:10:18.660 It'll be the day that we promote peace, understanding, civility, and our constitutional rights.

00:10:25.880 For anybody who works to stoke our anger, to turn us against one another, let January 6th be a reminder.

00:10:37.300 They failed.

00:10:38.540 And they'll always fail.

00:10:40.020 Because anger and hate and division are fickle motivators.

00:10:45.120 Peace is eternal.

00:10:47.040 And peace always wins.

00:10:48.800 You want us angry?

00:10:50.480 Go ahead.

00:10:51.860 I'm not going to bow to you.

00:10:53.320 You want us divided?

00:10:56.200 Well, that's fine.

00:10:58.380 I'm going to love my neighbor anyway.

00:11:01.540 You want us to condone violence and chaos?

00:11:05.080 No, we won't.

00:11:06.820 And we'll be clear.

00:11:09.600 So, today we should look at January 6th as a marker in time to now use this as a day to unite.

00:11:17.120 Because on January 6th last year, 99.9% of the country agreed.

00:11:25.640 It's exactly what happened with BLM.

00:11:29.460 When we first saw the police officer put his knee on the neck, we were all like, that's wrong.

00:11:36.260 That's wrong.

00:11:36.960 But they used it to divide us anyway and to hype up that half of America agreed with the police officer.

00:11:45.800 No, that wasn't true.

00:11:48.340 And the same thing with January 6th.

00:11:51.780 So, do something nice today.

00:11:53.960 Do something for a neighbor.

00:11:56.180 Give your server an extra big tip today.

00:11:58.500 Smile at the stranger that you pass.

00:12:00.460 Because that's who we really are about.

00:12:03.740 That's who we are.

00:12:05.480 We'll define today.

00:12:06.960 And we'll define it with kindness and love and just being an American.

00:12:12.860 That's the important thing today.

00:12:16.200 But it's also important to set the record straight.

00:12:20.440 You know, just because you love somebody doesn't mean that you don't point out where they have it wrong.

00:12:27.720 And I'm not pointing out to the New York Times where they have it wrong, because that would take far too long.

00:12:34.940 But the great arbiter of all truth, the New York Times, published an article yesterday with the headline,

00:12:41.080 Election Falsehoods Surged on Podcasts Before Capital Riots, Researchers Find.

00:12:48.600 What is this story about?

00:12:50.440 Well, I'll tell you.

00:12:51.320 This story is clearly just targeting podcasts and radio.

00:12:55.840 That's all it is.

00:12:56.760 Now that they are still losing because they can't silence us, I was told, go online.

00:13:05.180 We don't want you here.

00:13:07.240 You'll have to build your own thing.

00:13:08.940 Well, I did.

00:13:10.520 Now they see how effective it is.

00:13:12.820 And now they can't have us online.

00:13:17.040 Here's the sub-headline.

00:13:18.460 A new study analyzed nearly 1,500 episodes showing the extent to which podcasts pushed misinformation about voter fraud.

00:13:27.540 Now, the article opens mentioning me clearly from the outset.

00:13:33.400 They're accusing me of spreading election falsehoods.

00:13:36.900 It says it in the headline.

00:13:38.540 It's a pretty serious charge, accusing me of lying to this audience about the election and voter fraud.

00:13:46.100 So with that in mind, I want to read the opening paragraph of this article from the New York Times.

00:13:51.880 Weeks before the 2020 presidential election, the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck outlined his prediction for how Election Day would unfold.

00:14:02.540 President Donald J. Trump would be winning that night, but his lead would erode as dubious mail-in ballots arrived, giving Joe R. Biden Jr. an unlikely edge.

00:14:14.780 Now, the next line is a quote that's something I said on radio in 2020, quote,

00:14:22.580 No one will believe the outcome because they've changed the way we're electing a president this time, end quote.

00:14:32.180 Now, since the New York Times is the great arbiter of all truth, I'm almost certain that the article didn't go through any fact check, PolitiFact, Snopes, any of Facebook's army of fact-checking referees.

00:14:44.020 The New York Times has one of those getaway-with-our-version-of-the-truths-got-free cards that they can play at any time.

00:14:50.540 But as usual, it's context that is left on the cutting room floor.

00:14:58.400 Context.

00:14:59.480 It's inconvenient when it comes to character assassination attempts like this one.

00:15:04.840 But here is why context always matters.

00:15:08.600 Because when something is taken blatantly out of context in order to serve your narrative, it is the equivalent of a lie.

00:15:20.120 Before I get to the context with the New York Times conveniently left on the cutting room floor,

00:15:24.940 I should note that there's a new study this article references, and it's from the Brookings Institution, a century-old D.C. think tank.

00:15:33.180 Now, if you don't know who the Brookings Institution is, let me tell you, it is noteworthy that the former Brookings Institute analyst named Igor Danchenko.

00:15:44.320 Do you remember who he was, Stu?

00:15:47.040 Igor Danchenko.

00:15:48.300 No, I don't remember the name.

00:15:49.080 You know the name, though, right?

00:15:50.320 I mean, it sounds familiar, but I don't remember what it was tied to.

00:15:53.060 He was the man who claimed to have knowledge about cooperation between the Trump campaign and Vladimir Putin.

00:16:02.720 He's the guy that's just been indicted.

00:16:06.440 Igor Danchenko.

00:16:07.800 That's right.

00:16:08.000 Okay?

00:16:08.400 That's right.

00:16:09.160 He's the guy who passed the information to Christopher Steele.

00:16:12.540 Now he's been charged with lying to investigators about the information.

00:16:17.120 That guy came from the Brookings Institute.

00:16:19.320 It's also noteworthy that the donors include the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Facebook, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Comcast, NBCUniversal, BlackRock Financial, the United Nations Foundation, the Embassy of the State of Qatar, and dozens more.

00:16:40.140 So it's not really a credible operation.

00:16:44.820 But the study was ready to be released on Tuesday of this week, and it's almost as if they were coordinating something, because the New York Times article about the study came out yesterday.

00:16:58.500 And actually, we know the New York Times got their hands on the study long before it was released, because they reached out to one of my colleagues on Monday, asking us if we wanted to comment.

00:17:07.180 We didn't comment on this, because it's not my first rodeo with the New York Times, but I did provide them with full context.

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00:18:51.320 So, let me give you the quote again that was in the New York Times.

00:19:04.620 No one will believe the outcome, because they've changed the way we're electing a president this time.

00:19:11.140 And they're saying that I was saying that Joe Biden is going to claim he wins, and then we can't believe it.

00:19:21.000 That's what they're claiming, I said.

00:19:24.380 Okay.

00:19:26.260 Scary, if that's what I meant.

00:19:28.220 The New York Times hopes that's what I meant.

00:19:32.320 But then when we corrected them, they ran with the story anyway, even though they know that's not true.

00:19:40.200 Because here's what the Times forgot to mention.

00:19:42.660 The quote was pulled from a segment in which I was talking about the report from the Transition Integrity Project.

00:19:50.020 Do you remember that?

00:19:50.700 The project got a ton of media coverage, mostly because it predicted the end of America in all election result scenarios, except Biden winning in a landslide.

00:20:02.880 So, here's what I said on September 10th, 2020, when that came out.

00:20:07.920 Listen.

00:20:08.500 Brooks has conducted war games to play out a range of election day and post-election day scenarios.

00:20:13.840 Virtually all the outcomes, save one, a Biden landslide, have ended up facilitating a nightmarish fallout.

00:20:22.380 What about a Trump landslide?

00:20:24.540 I've been telling you only a landslide will do it.

00:20:27.060 A landslide of Biden or a landslide of Trump.

00:20:30.960 Otherwise, they have set this thing up that no one's going to believe the outcome.

00:20:36.960 No one will believe the outcome because they've changed the way we're electing a president this time.

00:20:45.300 So, now, wait a minute.

00:20:46.500 So, am I hyping the Republicans up to go out for violence?

00:20:51.260 Or am I saying that it will take a landslide for either Biden or Trump?

00:20:58.800 A landslide will be the only way that you'll be able to believe it.

00:21:03.300 That's an incredible—that's legitimately incredible.

00:21:07.900 I mean, usually they'll take something out of context and try to make it look like it was something that it wasn't.

00:21:13.300 This is—you're actually commenting on what was essentially a left-wing report.

00:21:19.380 Like, it's not—

00:21:20.340 And we told them when we talked to them, you run with this, that's liable.

00:21:25.360 That's liable.

00:21:26.820 And you better attorney up, New York Times, because that's liable.

00:21:32.320 That's not what I said.

00:21:33.680 You knew it.

00:21:34.800 We talked to you about it.

00:21:36.300 We gave you the audio.

00:21:38.380 So, you knew the context.

00:21:40.280 And you did it anyway to liable me.

00:21:47.380 So, anyway.

00:21:48.860 That's such a strange thing, too.

00:21:51.800 I mean, like, you know, they are obviously trying to go after now podcasts.

00:21:56.860 They've gone out and tried to ban everybody from social media.

00:21:59.240 They're done with that.

00:21:59.820 They're going after podcasts and other things now.

00:22:01.920 And that's, you know, very much in the normal left-wing playbook.

00:22:06.320 Right.

00:22:06.480 We're used to that.

00:22:07.660 But, you know, of all people, like, you've done dozens of events where all you do is preach about Martin Luther King.

00:22:16.360 I listened to, just to go back to listen to some of it, to your January 6th morning program before the actual events of that day occurred.

00:22:26.700 And you're saying, don't go out and cause mayhem in the streets.

00:22:30.580 You literally are advising the morning of January 6th not to do what wound up happening.

00:22:38.140 And you did that for 10 years previous as well, consistently all the time.

00:22:43.060 And they try to make you out to the face of the insurrection.

00:22:45.780 It's completely insane.

00:22:48.140 It's as if they have never listened to the show in their entire lives.

00:22:51.380 Well, they have it.

00:22:52.880 What, more importantly, you cannot listen to the New York Times.

00:22:58.240 Liable.

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00:24:20.460 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:24:34.240 Let me go to Eric in Indiana.

00:24:36.060 Hello, Eric.

00:24:36.740 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:24:38.840 Hey, Glenn.

00:24:39.320 Thanks for having me on.

00:24:40.200 Big fan.

00:24:40.740 Long time supporter.

00:24:42.240 Thank you.

00:24:45.140 Hey, I hope you feel better soon.

00:24:46.520 Thank you.

00:24:52.580 Is he there?

00:24:54.000 It does not seem to be wanting to be talking.

00:24:55.780 No, that's okay.

00:24:56.360 It's your turn to talk here.

00:24:57.420 I just didn't want to talk over you.

00:24:58.580 Yeah, I listened to the interview last night, Glenn, and I just thought it was fantastic.

00:25:02.400 And it's the first time since Independence Day 2012 where I felt truly hopeful for returning

00:25:09.580 to constitutional values.

00:25:12.080 I just thought that last night was about the future.

00:25:15.160 It was about unifying, and like you said, where they're just constantly trying to divide

00:25:19.500 us.

00:25:19.820 I mean, members of my own family, I'm vaccinated, but my daughters aren't.

00:25:24.380 They won't meet with my daughters.

00:25:26.440 And so we're divided, and no doctor told them to do that or anything.

00:25:30.780 Literally, the president did.

00:25:32.960 And so I just think that Trump's interview last night was so unifying and so inspirational

00:25:39.400 that I'm fully on board now.

00:25:41.340 And like during the 2016 primaries here in Indianapolis, I went to the Ted Cruz convention

00:25:47.420 where he announced Carly Fiorina as his running mate, you know.

00:25:52.540 And, you know, Trump had said things like horse face and lying Ted.

00:25:56.100 And I never liked that stuff, you know.

00:25:57.920 And I was always a supporter because I do feel like he had a role as a drain the swamp

00:26:03.100 kind of guy, a hit with the nose, you know, fight back against the media kind of guy.

00:26:07.500 But I never saw him as the healer that you had talked about in the past and others had

00:26:11.480 talked about.

00:26:12.460 But, man, that interview last night really turned me around.

00:26:15.140 And I'm telling you, it wasn't since, like I said, 2012, you know, the Tea Party stuff.

00:26:19.840 I was there in D.C. on Independence Day.

00:26:21.640 I was there in D.C. on September 12th.

00:26:24.740 And, man, that was such an awesome movement.

00:26:26.380 I had such high hopes.

00:26:28.240 And it wasn't until last night, man, that Trump brought that back for me.

00:26:32.240 And this morning I called my dad and I just said, I'm on board.

00:26:34.760 I said, we've got to get this guy reelected.

00:26:36.280 And I think you're right.

00:26:37.240 I think he's running.

00:26:38.400 I mean, watching that interview again last night, I mean, he's running.

00:26:41.380 I am excited.

00:26:42.320 I am fired up this morning.

00:26:43.840 Yeah, that's great.

00:26:44.620 I'm really glad to hear that, Eric.

00:26:46.360 You know, that was my intent.

00:26:47.880 I talked to him before we went down there and I said, look, you know, everybody is just

00:26:53.900 talking to you and we're re-litigating the past.

00:26:57.360 I don't want to talk about the past.

00:26:59.200 I want to talk about the future because I think people are looking at what's going on.

00:27:03.360 Here's the really bad thing about September 11th.

00:27:05.620 Eric, thanks for your call.

00:27:07.380 The bad thing about not September 11th, January 6th.

00:27:11.300 January 6th, they are now, the press is using this as a distraction on all of the really

00:27:17.800 important problems.

00:27:19.340 Our schools, our corruption in our FBI, the Justice Department, the Department of Education,

00:27:25.940 gas prices, meat prices, inflation, spending out of control, all of these things that are

00:27:33.780 happening, Putin, China, they all go to the back burner because they're focused on January

00:27:41.420 11th.

00:27:41.800 I'm sorry, January 6th.

00:27:44.160 I can't get this date right.

00:27:46.020 January 6th.

00:27:48.520 Because they're focused on that, do you know how many good, decent Democrats are feeling

00:27:56.600 alone and feeling like, gosh, it's just me that's going through all of these things?

00:28:03.880 I guess, I guess it's, I guess that's not important.

00:28:07.700 This must be the really important thing.

00:28:09.980 They're really being screwed by the left and, um, and by the media.

00:28:15.420 And that's tragic, really tragic.

00:28:18.400 But he got on last night and I don't know, um, I'd love to hear from you if you watched

00:28:23.460 it last night, 888-727-BECK.

00:28:25.940 At the end, my wife said, you know, that's the first time I've ever, I've ever seen an

00:28:30.820 interview with him where it seemed like just two people hanging out, having a conversation.

00:28:35.000 And I felt that way as well.

00:28:38.820 Um, uh, it was just a different interview and very, very, very hopeful.

00:28:44.640 In fact, can we play, if you wonder if he is, uh, running or not, can we go to, um, the, um,

00:28:53.480 the sot where, where he is, he is saying, it was at the very end, and I don't know if

00:28:58.040 you, you missed this, um, but it was at the very end where he said, um, yeah, where is

00:29:05.400 it, where he talked about, you know, making America great again, play that please.

00:29:11.060 It's so sad, our country right now.

00:29:13.320 I don't think we've ever been lower.

00:29:15.380 And despite all of the witch hunts and the phony Russia, Russia, Russia impeachments, it

00:29:20.560 was a beautiful time.

00:29:21.660 We had the greatest economy in history.

00:29:23.680 We then had the China virus come in and then I rebuilt the economy.

00:29:27.140 I really rebuilt it twice.

00:29:28.860 The second time harder than the first, but we had the greatest economy, the greatest everything.

00:29:33.400 It was a glamour pit.

00:29:34.600 It was a beautiful period.

00:29:36.040 And now I see what's happening with energy, with inflation, with the military, with these

00:29:42.920 clowns.

00:29:44.640 Uh, and I said, you know what, let's put out a book talking about how beautiful it was

00:29:48.880 because we're going to make it that way again.

00:29:53.040 Hmm.

00:29:54.000 What does that mean, Stu?

00:29:56.600 We made America great once.

00:29:58.580 We'll make America great again, again, again, uh,

00:30:02.640 my God.

00:30:04.360 Okay.

00:30:05.120 To me, there is no way he's, uh, he's not running.

00:30:09.260 We'll play more of the interview coming up in a little while.

00:30:12.040 I was thinking about what kind of person it would take to not run.

00:30:16.380 If you were Donald Trump right now, the nomination is his.

00:30:20.720 He doesn't have to do anything to get it.

00:30:23.620 He he's dozens of points ahead of anyone else who would be challenging him.

00:30:30.780 And now, of course, anything can happen.

00:30:33.280 You know, you never know what the future will bring.

00:30:35.440 But he would have to basically, um, I, you know, it would be a very strong man to say,

00:30:41.400 no, I don't want this nomination unless he just thinks it's just too much of a disruption

00:30:45.440 to his life.

00:30:46.240 He, it's his, he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to even work for the nomination.

00:30:49.640 It's his.

00:30:50.340 So he becomes a one in two shot.

00:30:52.400 And the other person is Joe Biden, probably who is, uh, terrible and is running the country

00:31:00.160 into the ground.

00:31:00.800 I know you think maybe Hillary runs.

00:31:02.420 I'm sure other people will run as a, as a challenge, uh, especially the way this is

00:31:07.380 going with Biden.

00:31:08.280 If it continues to go this poorly, he probably won't even run for reelection and they'll have

00:31:12.600 to run somebody else.

00:31:13.860 So, you know, how could you resist it?

00:31:17.460 I mean, unless you just didn't think it was important.

00:31:20.760 Oh, I think you could resist it for another reason.

00:31:23.220 In the interview last night, he said, uh, you know, I really had two jobs, try to get

00:31:29.060 the country back on track and survive.

00:31:32.720 Yeah.

00:31:33.200 And it, it's true.

00:31:36.160 I mean, he, he was fighting for his survival every day since, you know, the minute he came

00:31:44.820 down the escalator, he was fighting for his own survival.

00:31:48.900 And, and I don't think he saw that coming.

00:31:51.120 I thought he would, I think he thought that, you know, he'd still get the good press, blah,

00:31:56.500 blah, blah.

00:31:57.420 And, you know, they would be harsh on him, but not like that.

00:32:00.280 And, uh, it's because he's an outsider, but he was really clear, you know, we had dinner

00:32:06.200 afterwards and, um, you know, when the, when the president, former president says, what

00:32:11.420 are you doing for dinner tonight?

00:32:13.320 The right answer is, I don't know, McDonald's, uh, because that's what I said.

00:32:18.660 And he looked at me, he actually said, you and I, we could eat together for a very long

00:32:24.740 time.

00:32:25.140 And I said, yes, we could anyway, um, we had dinner with the first lady and I think

00:32:33.920 that's what wounded him deeper than anything else was the attacks on her.

00:32:39.600 So unfair and so cruel, uh, on her.

00:32:44.080 And I think, you know, for him to go back into the arena, would you, I mean, you know what

00:32:51.520 it was like, Stu, when we were at Fox and literally every day we were fighting for our

00:32:57.720 life.

00:32:58.580 Do you just immediately say, oh yeah, I'd go back?

00:33:02.180 No, that's, and that's why I, that's why I said, I think the only decision for him is

00:33:06.020 if it disrupts his personal life.

00:33:07.780 Right.

00:33:08.460 I mean, and like you think, think of a person like Ron DeSantis, who's thinking about

00:33:11.460 potentially running, he's got a million things to think about, right?

00:33:15.740 It's not just whether it disrupts his personal life, but it's like, can I win?

00:33:20.520 Who would I be running against?

00:33:22.160 Uh, you know, uh, do I, you know, how do I play this?

00:33:25.960 When's the right time to announce?

00:33:27.640 None of those things are factors with Trump.

00:33:29.400 All he has to do is say yes.

00:33:30.580 And it's his, I, you know, I, there's no poll that shows anyone can even come close to

00:33:35.340 challenging him.

00:33:35.920 So it's just really like, okay, let me make a personal decision based on myself and my

00:33:41.100 family.

00:33:41.880 What's the best thing and the country.

00:33:43.480 What, what do I think is the best way forward with everyone else?

00:33:46.300 There's, you know, there's a, there's a million political calculations to factor in.

00:33:50.720 You also, and the, the, the number one thing you have to factor in, if you're anyone other

00:33:55.720 than Donald Trump is, is Donald Trump going to run?

00:33:58.360 Because if you're Ron DeSantis and you announce, and then two weeks later, Trump announces you

00:34:02.980 are now, uh, you know, you're the second fiddle on the ticket.

00:34:06.360 You're at best running for vice president in most circumstances.

00:34:10.960 There is, if I were thinking, which it would be crazy for me to think this, but if I were

00:34:15.260 thinking I'm Ron DeSantis, let's say it that way.

00:34:17.420 And I'm thinking I might run for president.

00:34:20.100 There's no way, no way until I have a hard, fast public no from Donald Trump that he's not

00:34:28.080 running.

00:34:29.380 I mean, it'll be a, it'll be a cruise to the, uh, to the nomination.

00:34:34.720 And what's of course makes this difficult, uh, you know, and, and Donald Trump knows the

00:34:38.960 media.

00:34:39.400 He's obviously, uh, very, very good at understanding what gets attention in the media.

00:34:46.780 He knows the second he gives a hard, fast, no, a lot of his power drains away, right?

00:34:53.260 Like he, you know, he'll, I think the kingmaker in the Republican party for as long as he wants

00:34:57.340 to be, but like, you know, the, the media circus around Donald Trump starts going away

00:35:03.080 when he says, I'm not running anymore.

00:35:04.740 Um, he's now, now the focus goes to Ron DeSantis or whoever else is going to run.

00:35:10.740 So there's no incentive for him not to keep it alive, even if he wasn't running.

00:35:14.660 But I mean, I, again, everybody inside his inner circle, people who he, who are in his

00:35:20.580 inner circle that are advisors to him that are, you know, on his team are coming out and

00:35:25.180 publicly telling the media he's 99.9% running.

00:35:29.000 Uh, so like if he wanted that messaging to stop, they would stop it.

00:35:33.680 Yeah, he, I mean, he clearly is running and, and I think that means he's the nominee.

00:35:40.220 And I think you look, honestly, I'm, I'm more convinced Donald Trump is the nominee of the,

00:35:44.700 of the Republican party than I am.

00:35:46.140 Joe Biden is the nominee of the democratic party and he's the sitting president.

00:35:49.080 Absolutely.

00:35:49.920 Yeah.

00:35:50.360 Or Kamala Harris.

00:35:52.060 I have no idea who they're going to run in 2024.

00:35:54.880 Cause those two will not, that's, that's a disaster.

00:35:58.280 That won't win.

00:35:59.180 I have, that won't win.

00:36:00.500 I have no idea who they could actually run, but I will tell you that I'd be shocked if

00:36:06.060 Donald Trump didn't win.

00:36:07.300 And if he approaches the election like he did last night, where he was, where he's just

00:36:15.160 laying out a strategy of hope and doesn't get waylaid into all of the stuff.

00:36:23.000 Um, I think he's, I think he's a shoe in because all of those people who voted for him the first

00:36:29.880 time, and then we're convinced that something was corrupt.

00:36:32.780 Now they're seeing, wait a minute, corruption, no corruption.

00:36:37.820 Uh, we know what's going on here.

00:36:40.280 These guys are Marxists.

00:36:42.020 These guys are not helping me and my family.

00:36:45.000 It's costing me a fortune because of the policies of this guy.

00:36:48.880 And I think they'll get all of those people back that voted for Donald Trump.

00:36:52.760 And then some, and then some get those people back from 2016.

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00:38:35.200 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:38:37.660 Have you heard the name Ray Epps?

00:38:55.720 You should.

00:38:56.580 We're going to talk to somebody who has been investigating Ray Epps coming up in just a few

00:39:01.820 minutes.

00:39:02.140 Let me go to Linda in Florida.

00:39:03.720 Hello, Linda.

00:39:04.220 Hello, hello, this is Linda.

00:39:09.760 Yes, go ahead.

00:39:10.680 You're on, Linda.

00:39:12.240 Yes, it is.

00:39:13.260 Okay.

00:39:15.000 Um, I have a question for you.

00:39:16.820 Uh, I, I, I've been thinking about this, uh, well, you know, ever since, um, and Mr.

00:39:23.860 Trump, uh, you know, uh, was, well, you know, his presidency was, uh, gone.

00:39:30.740 But, um, I, my, my question to you is, I did not get to see the interview last night with

00:39:37.840 Mr.

00:39:38.280 Trump, but, um, in, in your interview and how you had, um, you know, you know, gone through

00:39:46.660 the questions.

00:39:47.200 Do you see where, um, you know, Mr.

00:39:51.640 Trump will be, uh, different in, in how he handles, of course, if he runs, I will definitely,

00:39:59.880 uh, vote for him.

00:40:01.060 Um, but my question is about his personality and how he handles things and how, how his

00:40:08.340 acting comes out and so forth.

00:40:10.040 Because I, I believe that people that voted for him in the past, there may be a good, a

00:40:17.720 good chance that a lot of people will not vote for him, um, because of the way he acts and

00:40:24.400 how he portrays himself.

00:40:26.360 And I know that that's the acting in him because that's what he's done.

00:40:32.500 Right.

00:40:33.480 Um, I don't think I could speak to how he's going to run.

00:40:36.960 Donald Trump is going to be Donald Trump.

00:40:38.840 That's just who he is.

00:40:40.800 And, you know, uh, it's a double-edged sword.

00:40:44.300 Um, he is, he is a guy who just goes in and drops grenades and that's what explodes everything.

00:40:52.260 I mean, he's going to have to, and we talked about it in the interview last night.

00:40:55.900 I gave him a list of, of departments that have to be cleaned out.

00:41:00.580 And I asked him, are you going to be able to do that in four years?

00:41:04.240 And what about the Republican party?

00:41:06.740 Are they going to let you do that?

00:41:08.980 And he was very clear on it, but he's, it's going to, whoever goes in, if they're really

00:41:15.320 truly going to fix it, they have to clean house.

00:41:20.000 And that's going to take a tough as nails person to do it.

00:41:24.440 Watch the, uh, uh, watch the interview from last night, Glenn Beck, Wednesday night special

00:41:29.160 only on blaze tv.com.

00:41:32.220 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:41:36.220 Thank you very much.

00:41:37.200 Uh, Hillary, um, we're going to go into, um, Ray Epps and who this guy is.

00:41:44.140 There's a, it's really, it's, you know, let's say there is nothing to Ray Epps.

00:41:50.760 Then why is the, the FBI and everybody else behaving the way they are?

00:41:56.780 It's like, they want a conspiracy theory.

00:41:59.600 Um, I don't know how you explain the Ray Epps situation.

00:42:04.920 Um, but we have a guy who has been on this with the revolver for a while.

00:42:09.980 Uh, and, uh, he's probably the best on this issue.

00:42:13.900 We're going to introduce you perhaps to Ray Epps, uh, if you don't know the name, uh, and

00:42:20.260 why his name is so important.

00:42:23.120 Uh, then also next hour, we're going to go into, um, Congress and we're going to talk to

00:42:28.980 one of our leading congressmen about, um, the situation of the January 6th committee.

00:42:36.860 Do you know that some people still have not had trial, still in jail, no trial.

00:42:41.100 It's been a year.

00:42:42.080 It's been a year.

00:42:43.480 And no one has been charged with sedition.

00:42:47.200 Uh, so what exactly is going on?

00:42:50.360 I mean, I think time served is probably pretty good at this point.

00:42:55.820 Back in just a second.

00:43:13.480 We got no room to compromise.

00:43:22.240 We got to stand together.

00:43:26.320 It's the chorus of night.

00:43:28.200 Stand up straight and hold the line.

00:43:33.740 It's a new day.

00:43:37.640 What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:43:47.140 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:43:50.720 Post January 6th.

00:43:55.940 Today is a day that all of the media has been salivating, uh, the over to be able to mark

00:44:02.300 the one year anniversary of the worst terrorist attack, the worst event in American history

00:44:09.480 since the Civil War.

00:44:10.740 Average Americans know that's absolute bullcrap.

00:44:14.940 Average Americans and me, we were all horrified by January 6th.

00:44:21.560 Thought it was an abomination.

00:44:23.100 Thought it was, uh, dangerous and stupid politically.

00:44:28.000 But the New York Times and others are making this into something that it is not.

00:44:34.460 So let's get some of the facts down.

00:44:36.900 We, we have a guest.

00:44:39.020 He was a former professor at Duke University, former speech writer for the White House and

00:44:44.960 the founder of Revolver.News.

00:44:48.460 He's been following the story of Ray Epps.

00:44:51.680 Why can't we get any answers on this one?

00:44:54.620 We go there in 60 seconds.

00:44:58.000 So let me tell you about Uno.

00:45:04.420 He's been eating rough greens and he has changed.

00:45:07.380 But President Miles has also, uh, seen great benefit for, uh, from rough greens.

00:45:13.660 Yeah, we call him President Miles because he's a 17 year old pug and he sleeps approximately

00:45:19.080 22 hours a day.

00:45:20.220 Uh, and the president.

00:45:22.140 Yeah, he's, well, he's awake more than the president, even though he's sleeping 22 hours

00:45:26.420 a day.

00:45:28.420 Uh, but he actually, we've been talking about him having the zoomies a little bit lately

00:45:30.540 because he gets up and he's moving around.

00:45:32.400 Now his moving around is not, uh, when he's moving around, we're like, wow, he's, he's

00:45:37.540 trucking right now.

00:45:38.300 Look at him.

00:45:38.760 Look at him go.

00:45:39.420 And he's, he's going about three inches a minute.

00:45:42.060 Uh, but he, no, he's, you know, I will say, you know, since he's been eating rough greens,

00:45:45.980 you can notice that he's, he's up more.

00:45:48.160 He's a little more playful, uh, you know, the poor guy can't see or hear.

00:45:52.020 So he has a, uh, a diff, he has a little bit of difficulty getting around, uh, a normal

00:45:57.340 day, but, uh, you know, just to see him still getting around as well as he is, is, is I think

00:46:01.900 a testament to, uh, to rough greens.

00:46:04.140 And, and it's, you know, I love, you know, that he's an awesome dog.

00:46:07.980 We all want our dogs to live a long life.

00:46:11.640 We found out yesterday, Stu, that, uh, Uno may have cancer, uh, and it's just, everybody

00:46:20.320 feels the same way about their animal, whether it's a cat or a dog, we all feel the same way.

00:46:24.600 Well, I don't feel the same way about cats, but that's a different story.

00:46:27.900 Uh, rough greens.

00:46:29.140 They are so confident that your dog is going to love rough greens, that they have a special

00:46:33.940 deal for you.

00:46:34.640 You go to rough greens.com slash back, and they're going to give away the first bag free.

00:46:40.220 All you pay for is the shipping on the bag.

00:46:42.600 So you get the bag, have your dog, try it.

00:46:45.040 If your dog loves it as much as Uno and president miles and all the other dogs in our life, if

00:46:50.080 they love it as much, uh, as they do, what, what you need to do is then just start ordering

00:46:55.540 it and feeding it every day.

00:46:57.320 And I'm telling you within a couple of months, you're going to see a dramatic difference in

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00:47:16.220 So let's go to, uh, Darren, uh, Darren Beatty.

00:47:19.820 He is a former professor, Duke university, former white house speech writer and the founder

00:47:25.740 of revolver news, the anniversary of January 6th.

00:47:30.960 So let's get an update, uh, from, uh, from Darren.

00:47:34.260 Hi, Darren.

00:47:35.620 Hey, thanks for having me again.

00:47:37.860 You bet.

00:47:38.680 So I wanted to talk to you because, um, the press is making it, uh, that there's all kinds

00:47:46.020 of conspiracy theories that the right is buying into conspiracy theories about this.

00:47:51.160 I don't know what the truth is.

00:47:53.400 Um, I just know that there are a few things that don't make any sense.

00:47:57.420 First of all, it's the worst one ever, uh, and yet nobody has been charged with sedition

00:48:03.580 or anything like it.

00:48:05.280 Um, and then you have players like Ray Epps.

00:48:08.400 Can we play the audio here of Ray Epps?

00:48:11.620 Listen to the audio.

00:48:12.700 I know.

00:48:13.460 In fact, tomorrow, I don't even like to say it cause I'll be arrested.

00:48:17.600 Well, let's not say it.

00:48:18.280 We need, we need to go, I'll say it.

00:48:20.860 All right.

00:48:21.340 We need to go in to the Capitol.

00:48:25.280 Let's go.

00:48:26.100 I'm going to put it out there.

00:48:28.640 I'm probably going to go to jail.

00:48:30.580 Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol.

00:48:34.460 Into the Capitol.

00:48:36.380 So here he is, um, talking clearly about going into the Capitol.

00:48:42.680 He is stirring people up the night before in this last clip, uh, where he was saying that

00:48:48.280 you could hear them saying FBI stooge, FBI plant.

00:48:51.460 Um, but he was on a, what most wanted list and then nothing happened.

00:48:57.820 Can you tell me the story about this?

00:49:00.280 Yeah.

00:49:00.840 I mean, this here's, uh, a remarkable, uh, case, this individual Ray Epps.

00:49:05.680 And just to give a bit fuller, uh, context for what his involvement was, he's not only

00:49:11.960 ubiquitous the evening before January 6th, going to multiple different groups with multiple

00:49:18.740 different agendas and really corralling them and focusing them on this new and utterly bizarre

00:49:26.000 mission to go into the Capitol.

00:49:28.140 And you can hear a little bit about how people's reactions are.

00:49:31.380 What are you talking about?

00:49:32.720 Fed, you're a Fed.

00:49:34.420 He remained persistent.

00:49:36.080 He went to every different group and he focused them on this mission to go into the Capitol.

00:49:40.580 And what's important to say is that this isn't just some random drunk on the evening of January

00:49:46.980 5th that we never heard from again.

00:49:49.140 He followed up on this stated mission the next day on January 6th.

00:49:54.180 He's a veritable where's Waldo.

00:49:56.200 And if your listeners go to revolver.news and read, uh, the first Ray Epps report, we

00:50:02.140 have tons of video evidence documenting his every move on January 6th.

00:50:08.620 He's everywhere.

00:50:09.320 And he's telling the crowds after Trump's speech is over, we're all going to the Capitol.

00:50:15.640 That's where our problems are.

00:50:17.960 Our enemy is the Capitol.

00:50:19.680 And sure enough, at 1253 p.m., crucial to note, Trump is still speaking at this time.

00:50:28.640 But at 1253 p.m., Ray Epps is not at the Trump speech.

00:50:33.060 He flew to D.C. all the way from Arizona.

00:50:35.860 He's wearing a Trump hat.

00:50:37.680 But he's not at the Trump speech.

00:50:39.480 What's more important to him is he's right there by the metal barricade.

00:50:44.380 And he whispers into someone's ear.

00:50:47.280 And two seconds later, that someone engages in the first and decisive and fateful breach

00:50:53.520 of the Capitol grounds that starts the whole thing off.

00:50:56.920 This is the same guy who the previous evening was telling everyone we need to go into the

00:51:01.660 Capitol.

00:51:02.720 Initially, as you point out, the FBI thought he was an important enough to include him as

00:51:07.820 one of the 20 most wanted January 6th offenders.

00:51:11.340 They said, we need to identify him.

00:51:13.720 Well, then the Internet identified him and the Fed's FBI crickets until Revolver.news

00:51:20.420 ran a piece basically implicating the FBI in January 6th.

00:51:25.000 And the day after this came out, the Fed quietly scrubbed Epps' name and his face from their

00:51:32.120 public database.

00:51:33.440 And since then, the only thing that any official FBI agent has said about Ray Epps is to deny

00:51:41.000 all knowledge of his existence.

00:51:43.720 So we have the tape.

00:51:46.580 Yeah.

00:51:47.340 Can you can you can are we ever going to get an answer on on this?

00:51:53.420 Is there any any movement on this?

00:51:56.820 Yes, that's an excellent question.

00:51:58.800 I'm really glad that you asked that, because obviously this is very important to me.

00:52:03.380 I think it's very important to the country and we're not going to get any answer from A.G.

00:52:08.720 Merrick Garland, who's been a mop up boy for precisely these types of said infiltration

00:52:14.280 operations going back decades.

00:52:16.240 We're not going to get any answers from the sham exercise in political theater.

00:52:22.300 That is the January 6th committee.

00:52:24.220 The only place we're going to get answers.

00:52:26.740 I think there are two possibilities if we're going to get ultimate answers at all.

00:52:31.220 One possibility.

00:52:31.940 And this might sound crazy, but I've become very familiar with the way that these said operations

00:52:38.020 work.

00:52:38.480 And a lot of times the higher up handlers of people like Ray Epps, they think of them

00:52:44.540 as pawns.

00:52:45.820 And Ray Epps may have been tricked in some capacity.

00:52:49.800 Maybe he was told that the reason that he was doing what he was doing was for something

00:52:54.400 that turned out to be not the case.

00:52:56.700 Maybe he feels like he was misled.

00:52:59.020 Maybe he didn't really fully understand that he was going to be used as an instrument in

00:53:03.800 an agenda to label half the country as domestic terrorists.

00:53:07.880 But for whatever reason, Ray Epps or many of the other actors who are clearly fed or fed

00:53:12.720 informants, they can step up.

00:53:15.680 They have the power to expose their handlers and to break the case wide open.

00:53:19.940 So that's one option.

00:53:20.880 The second option is the defense attorneys for the defendants in January 6th cases.

00:53:28.000 And on this, I'm cautiously optimistic.

00:53:30.480 One defense attorney for Kelly Meggs, who is a Oathkeeper defendant, has on the basis of

00:53:38.240 Revolver.News' reporting, issued a subpoena demanding the testimony from Ray Epps and Stuart

00:53:46.880 Rhodes, who is the founder and leader of the Oathkeeper's Militia Group, who is also curiously

00:53:53.340 uncharged.

00:53:54.660 And so one of two things can happen.

00:53:57.000 Either the subpoena goes through and they actually do have to testify under oath, in

00:54:03.060 which case that can be extremely interesting.

00:54:06.380 Or in the case of agents and informants, the government has the power to block subpoena.

00:54:13.160 And if the government steps in and intervenes and somehow blocks the subpoena, that would

00:54:19.460 be unfortunate.

00:54:20.120 But the very act of blocking it itself indicates that there's something they really don't want

00:54:25.900 us to hear, which gives us additional information as well.

00:54:29.500 So I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens with the defense attorneys really embracing

00:54:35.000 a potential entrapment case, understanding that the fact that you had instigators who are

00:54:41.000 very likely feds is exculpatory information on the part of their clients and the defendants

00:54:46.500 in these cases.

00:54:47.300 Darren, I can't thank you enough for all of the work that you have done at Revolver.news

00:54:52.720 on this subject.

00:54:54.840 I don't know how it ends.

00:54:55.940 I don't know who he was.

00:54:57.660 But if you are looking for somebody who was the instigator and had a plan, he seems to be

00:55:05.200 the number one candidate.

00:55:07.240 You know, not people on talk radio or podcasts who are saying, hey, we've got to, you know,

00:55:13.160 fight, fight, fight, fight.

00:55:15.680 Let me let me ask you what we do know about him.

00:55:20.700 Where does he where does he come from?

00:55:23.040 What does he do?

00:55:24.360 What's his history?

00:55:26.200 Well, he has an interesting background, like like many people who end up becoming sort of

00:55:32.420 jobbers and contractors for this type of work.

00:55:35.640 He does have a military background.

00:55:37.880 He's a Marine.

00:55:39.480 He also has a background as the president of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers militia

00:55:46.180 group.

00:55:46.480 And those familiar with Revolver.news' reporting will see that the Oath Keepers is the most

00:55:52.080 heavily prosecuted, quote unquote, boogeyman militia group associated with one sick.

00:55:58.060 And it's a whole other thread that we've investigated and reported on that a lot of the Oath Keepers

00:56:04.560 people who are underlings who are being hit with very serious charges, they're being hit

00:56:09.680 with conspiracy charges.

00:56:10.960 And when you look at the charging documents, the charging documents cite the words and the

00:56:16.740 actions and the behaviors of Stuart Rhodes, who's the founder and head of it, who, for

00:56:23.160 whatever reason, is not only uncharged a year later, a year later, he hasn't even been subject

00:56:29.540 to a proper search.

00:56:31.380 The only search that he's been projected to was a single cell phone four months after January

00:56:37.920 6th.

00:56:38.920 And so it just happens to be the case that Ray Epps was the president of the Arizona chapter

00:56:45.260 of this very same militia group.

00:56:46.840 And we have all kinds of footage of him palling around with Stuart Rhodes as well, which is

00:56:52.060 an interesting connection, to say the least.

00:56:56.420 There is at least really heavy smoke.

00:56:59.720 Whether there is a fire there and he is the center of it, I don't know.

00:57:04.080 But there are questions that must be answered by the government on this.

00:57:10.080 Let me take a quick one minute break and then I want to come up and I want to talk to you

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00:58:56.180 Let me go to Darren Beatty.

00:59:11.100 He is the former professor at Duke University, former White House speechwriter,

00:59:15.180 and he started Revolver.news.

00:59:18.820 And we've been talking about the January 6th debacle and what's coming of this investigation.

00:59:27.640 First of all, how many people have yet to be charged and are in jail a year later?

00:59:33.900 Do you have any idea, Darren?

00:59:35.220 I don't know the exact number, but the number is definitely greater than zero.

00:59:41.760 There are definitely people who have been wallowing away under atrocious conditions.

00:59:46.880 Some cases, solitary confinement and such.

00:59:50.200 And that really goes to show the other side of the coin to the fact that people like Ray Epps

00:59:55.040 and Stuart Rhodes are uncharged.

00:59:57.340 The other side of the coin is that just, you know, very small fish are being given the most draconian,

01:00:05.420 almost third-world Abu Ghraib-type treatment imaginable on the basis of extremely trivial offenses,

01:00:12.620 if they're offenses at all, and not even given the opportunity for a speedy trial or anything.

01:00:18.140 And there are several cases that I'm familiar with of people put in those positions

01:00:22.760 that have taken a long time to be granted bail, if they're granted bail at all.

01:00:28.180 And so it's really shameful, and it really goes to underscore how bizarre and inexplicable

01:00:35.140 and really even scandalous the selective non-prosecution is for people like Ray Epps,

01:00:40.900 who happens to be the only person in the mountains of footage that exists on 1-6,

01:00:46.480 calling explicitly for this mission to go into the Capitol, and he remains untouched.

01:00:50.980 Tell me about the pipe bombs.

01:00:53.480 The night before, somebody apparently put pipe bombs at the DNC and RNC.

01:00:59.740 What do we know about that now, a year later?

01:01:02.680 You know, that's a very interesting question.

01:01:05.560 I'm glad that this is sort of, the interest in this is resurrected on the anniversary,

01:01:11.120 because there are a couple of things to say about this.

01:01:14.140 One is just curious, I'm not making so much of it,

01:01:17.400 it's just an interesting incidental detail, is that the authorities caught wind of these pipe bombs

01:01:24.320 basically just as that initial Ray Epps breach of the metal barricade to the Capitol occurred around 12.53 p.m.

01:01:34.900 And so whether it was intended to be this or not,

01:01:39.260 it was almost a perfect diversionary tactic to get already scarce law enforcement personnel

01:01:46.820 away from the Capitol, away from that initial breach site,

01:01:50.500 in order to attend to this bomb scare at the RNC and DNC.

01:01:56.460 So the timing there is really interesting,

01:01:58.740 and I'll just leave it at that and allow people to infer as they will.

01:02:02.540 What else is important about this is that, okay, the FBI has put on this act,

01:02:09.560 the same way that they put on the act with Epps, saying,

01:02:12.180 we need your help identifying Epps.

01:02:14.100 Please help us.

01:02:15.540 We just have no idea who this is.

01:02:17.480 Then Epps is identified like two days later and they do nothing with it.

01:02:21.760 They did this similar charade with this pipe bomb.

01:02:24.540 They released this grainy video.

01:02:26.500 They clearly have more video than they're giving out.

01:02:29.400 But for whatever reason, they're so interested in catching the people,

01:02:33.720 and all they'll release is this ridiculous grainy footage that's clearly nowhere near all the footage that they have.

01:02:40.180 They haven't released the forensics.

01:02:41.920 They haven't released if they have any fingerprints, nothing.

01:02:44.560 They give us this grainy footage and this act like, oh, please, please help us identify this person.

01:02:52.080 Well, if you want us to identify it, then release all the footage that we know that you have.

01:02:57.620 At revolver.news, if people go there, they can see our extensive report on the pipe bomb that goes into details

01:03:04.440 that how we know that they have more footage than they're releasing.

01:03:08.020 And just another really interesting tidbit about this, the individual, the representative of the FBI

01:03:14.020 that's calling for the public to help identify this so-called pipe bomber,

01:03:18.740 his name was Stephen D'Antuono.

01:03:21.580 Now, the interesting thing about this individual is that before he was in his position at the D.C. field office,

01:03:30.880 he ran the Detroit FBI field office.

01:03:34.840 The reason that's significant is that means that he was the guy that ran the infiltration operation

01:03:42.320 in this so-called Michigan kidnapping plot.

01:03:45.740 He was the head of the Detroit field office as that was happening.

01:03:50.520 And we now know that this basically was a trial run for January 6th in the sense that it involved the same plot,

01:03:57.980 basically, in this case, to storm the Michigan state capitol.

01:04:01.720 It involved one of the key militia groups also imputed to 1-6, namely the three percenters.

01:04:07.000 And now we know for a fact that 12 out of the 26 so-called plotters were either federal agents or federal informants.

01:04:15.360 And the guy who ran that infiltration operation is the same guy calling for the public saying,

01:04:21.140 please help us identify these pipe bombers.

01:04:23.900 It's like you can't even make this up.

01:04:26.680 Darren, Darren Beatty, you can find his reporting at revolver.news.

01:04:32.060 It is fascinating.

01:04:36.480 I wonder if we're ever really going to know what happened eventually, I suppose.

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01:06:10.780 You know, it's really telling when you talk about Ray Epps and you look at, what, about 600 people have been arrested, Stu?

01:06:21.940 Yes, 600 or 700 I thought it was, yeah.

01:06:23.800 600 or 700, okay.

01:06:25.160 So you have this number of people that have been arrested and none of them have been charged with insurrection or sedition or anything like that.

01:06:34.940 It's criminal trespass, et cetera, et cetera.

01:06:37.400 It's an assault on a police officer.

01:06:39.560 All those things I'm totally cool with.

01:06:41.820 You go to jail.

01:06:42.420 You do that, you go to jail.

01:06:43.980 It's consistent with my view on the riots with BLM.

01:06:48.840 You burn down a building, you go to jail for that.

01:06:52.260 Not on a political charge.

01:06:54.620 You go to jail for breaking the law of burning down buildings, robbing stores, et cetera, et cetera.

01:07:00.240 So I have no problem with that.

01:07:01.860 But when you look at the charges in the last year that have come out, they don't match with the fairy tale that this was the worst terrorist attack or the worst attack on America since the Civil War.

01:07:14.720 It clearly was not because no one, you know, the New York Times is running stories now of people they interviewed.

01:07:24.200 And one they interviewed today was a guy who was a Democrat but was there.

01:07:30.720 A registered Democrat.

01:07:31.500 And he spent three months in jail.

01:07:32.540 Go ahead.

01:07:32.820 Registered Democrat, a lifelong Democrat by his telling, that was not planning to go to the Trump speech, decided to go kind of last minute.

01:07:41.560 He's within a train ride of New York or of Washington, D.C.

01:07:46.020 He went down to the speech, kind of got caught.

01:07:49.740 What he said, I got kind of caught up in the herd.

01:07:52.140 We all sort of went towards the Capitol.

01:07:54.920 He said he didn't even know Congress was in session.

01:07:58.580 And he was really, you know, overt about that.

01:08:02.200 He said, the one thing I really want you to believe is that I didn't even know they were in session.

01:08:06.760 Like, he's like, I, it was just like, I thought we were at a speech and we went in there and there wasn't like, I think if I walked in and there was somebody right at the door saying, get out, turn around, I probably would have.

01:08:16.340 But there wasn't.

01:08:17.120 We kind of all just walked in.

01:08:18.560 I was walking around taking pictures of the Capitol.

01:08:20.760 And, you know, it seems he did eventually have an altercation with a police officer where he sort of undersold how serious it was.

01:08:31.060 They found more video of it and they wound up putting him in jail for three months for that incident.

01:08:37.580 And, you know, if I was he, why was he doing that?

01:08:40.080 He's a Democrat.

01:08:41.540 Yeah, he was, you know, he was a Democrat.

01:08:43.140 He did have some social media postings about, you know, believing in, you know, some of the theories on the election.

01:08:52.080 And he had seemingly, you know, Trump had a lot of Democratic supporters.

01:08:55.840 You know what I mean?

01:08:56.720 He basically said he sort of turned, he was a Democrat but wound up liking Trump a lot, basically.

01:09:05.920 The guy, here's the one guy that's going to talk.

01:09:07.600 He sort of explained that in the interview.

01:09:09.320 But what was interesting is, like, you know, if you went to a bar and you were causing a ruckus in a bar and a police officer showed up and you threw a punch at a police officer, let's just say, you might go to jail for three months for that.

01:09:23.320 And that's what they, the overwhelming majority of these charges are, which are people who did something that they probably shouldn't have done, certainly shouldn't have done in some cases,

01:09:34.060 and wound up with mild punishments that are pretty much what you'd expect in a normal circumstance.

01:09:41.640 It's not sedition.

01:09:43.140 You know, there may very well be some people, it does seem, that, like, really had these ideas.

01:09:48.800 You mentioned Epps before, who was actually, we don't know his whole story, obviously, but was actually saying those types of things in advance.

01:09:56.400 He was on tape.

01:09:57.660 You'd have to think that, right, you'd have to think those charges, though, are more time-consuming to actually put together, right?

01:10:05.540 Like, yes, having a person say something on tape is a big piece of evidence, but if it's tied into some larger, bigger conspiracy with bigger players that were really trying to overturn the election or stop Congress,

01:10:16.420 that's going to be a more complicated case to prove than someone walking in and getting in a fight with an officer.

01:10:21.100 The bottom line, though, is that the problem here is this fairy tale that this is the worst thing since the Civil War.

01:10:31.620 Correct.

01:10:32.440 Paraphrasing, I think it was Yuval Levin who said, like, it's very easy to overestimate January 6th and to underestimate January 6th.

01:10:39.920 It wasn't nothing.

01:10:41.040 It wasn't, like, a bunch of people touring the Capitol.

01:10:43.480 It also wasn't the worst thing since the Civil War.

01:10:45.960 And we have to recognize that.

01:10:47.460 It is what it is, and 99% of Americans all said the same thing on January 6th.

01:10:53.780 Stop it.

01:10:54.500 This is, I was in a room full of people as we were watching it unfold.

01:10:57.920 I immediately, I think, I immediately got online and said, this has got to stop, got to stop.

01:11:02.620 You did.

01:11:03.640 I mean, you know, this idea that somehow or another it's a grand conspiracy,

01:11:10.180 and yet, you know, Sean Hannity is reaching out to the president saying, you got to stop him.

01:11:17.040 Don Jr.

01:11:18.540 Don Jr. is doing it.

01:11:20.040 I mean, where's the conspiracy here?

01:11:22.400 They obviously thought it was terrible and wanted it to stop, and that was happening not only in public but behind the scenes.

01:11:28.080 But I will say, to your point, Glenn, yes, you did say right after the event that this was a bad thing.

01:11:35.700 But it's amazing, like, looking at, you know, the New York Times tried to hit piece on you and some others saying you're this big lead insurrectionist

01:11:44.060 because of you talking about a left-wing report in September, well before the election even happened, let alone the insurrection.

01:11:52.760 But you also said this consistently for years and years and years that we needed to act like Martin Luther King

01:12:01.680 and understand that if we have outbursts of violence or anger, they will be used against us.

01:12:06.720 You have to avoid them at all costs.

01:12:08.500 You did that for a long time.

01:12:09.860 These events, the event you did in Birmingham, was all about that specific thing leading up to this.

01:12:16.560 Then, I remember you on the day before January 6th, so January 5th, talking about the event that was coming the next day.

01:12:25.320 I believe we have that audio.

01:12:28.560 I know people who are going to Washington.

01:12:33.060 I know people who feel passionately about what's happening in our country.

01:12:37.740 But I don't know any of them that want to start a war, want to start a fight, want to be beat up in the streets or beat people up in the streets.

01:12:48.120 That's just not who we've ever been.

01:12:51.780 Now, there might be some people that are going in support of, you know, Stop the Steal that do feel that way, but they're in the vast minority.

01:13:01.160 But those people, if they engage with Antifa or whatever, those are the people that are going to be seen on television.

01:13:09.260 And that will be the poster child of whatever we're doing.

01:13:15.140 There's a couple of things that you should do if you are going to march in activities like this.

01:13:21.640 And the first thing is, you have to really kind of channel your inner Martin Luther King and know that the people that are there against you are there to make you do something that you either don't want to do or really, really, really want to.

01:13:45.180 But your better angels keep you on that path.

01:13:48.840 And so you don't.

01:13:50.120 They are there to poke you with sticks.

01:13:53.560 They're provocateurs.

01:13:55.780 If you are going to go into a political activity, do not engage people that are on the streets yelling at you.

01:14:07.400 Don't debate them.

01:14:09.280 There is no reason to debate.

01:14:10.940 They are not.

01:14:12.220 You're not going to change their mind.

01:14:13.700 They are not shouting things at you because they think, whoa, that person looks like he's going to be open minded and maybe he'll come over to our side.

01:14:25.060 He'll understand what we're talking about.

01:14:27.480 That's not what they're there for.

01:14:29.500 They are there to harass you.

01:14:31.840 It's a deliberate technique intended to take your participation and sideline it.

01:14:40.040 Don't don't.

01:14:42.880 Don't don't pause.

01:14:44.920 To stop.

01:14:47.040 Don't do anything.

01:14:48.880 Just keep you and your friends marching.

01:14:52.720 Now, it sounds simple to decline to engage with morons from Antifa.

01:15:03.140 But it is actually difficult in practice because they are trained in direct action techniques.

01:15:12.000 They have studied this.

01:15:14.040 You haven't.

01:15:15.140 They have studied direct action techniques.

01:15:18.220 They can get police officers who are really well trained.

01:15:23.340 Just a snap.

01:15:24.540 And police officers have been trained in direct action techniques.

01:15:30.080 They know what Antifa is doing.

01:15:32.660 They're prepared mentally for it.

01:15:35.360 It could catch you off guard.

01:15:38.840 Don't let it.

01:15:40.000 Don't let it affect you or anyone around you and make sure everyone around you is working together.

01:15:48.020 You grab arms and link arms and you pull each other out of that.

01:15:52.880 But otherwise, you are going to be the only thing that the media will show and it will delegitimize everything you came to support.

01:16:05.440 OK, so that's the that's the day before.

01:16:08.020 Yeah, there's a day before.

01:16:09.080 And what's interesting about that is obviously like you were more warning against a street battle of some sort because that was just what you know you thought might happen.

01:16:18.980 And there might be a group protest the anti protesters and throw you off only throw you off the scent because, you know, I was in the planning committees.

01:16:27.760 So, right.

01:16:28.600 But I mean, again, you you are the subject of a the paragraph one subject of a story about the lead insurrectionist podcasters.

01:16:37.320 And you the day before January 6th said to channel your inner Martin Luther King.

01:16:44.240 Wouldn't it be interesting if you also happen to say it the morning before the January 6th events occurred?

01:16:51.620 This is the morning of January 6th.

01:16:54.960 Here's more audio for you.

01:16:56.600 You have to be able to fight with wisdom.

01:16:59.620 You have to be able to you can't just go out into the streets and cause mayhem.

01:17:06.500 That is not what Martin Luther King did.

01:17:09.040 It's not, you know, and we're missing a lot of Martin Luther King ideas that actually changed the world because it's the same thing that Gandhi did.

01:17:20.580 But how many of us, how many of us are willing to say, you know what, I'm no longer putting my money into this product or these people.

01:17:30.760 I'm not going to do it.

01:17:32.180 And a real sacrifice.

01:17:33.840 And when I say a real sacrifice, I mean, I'm not going to put my money into, you know, Netflix or I'm not going to put my money into big mobile or whatever it is.

01:17:45.360 How many are willing to make just that sacrifice for their freedom?

01:17:50.120 So that's the morning of January 6th from from this program.

01:17:53.440 And you're you're saying we should emulate MLK and Gandhi on January 6th.

01:18:00.740 You're saying that before any of this stuff happens and they put you in the first paragraph of a insurrectionist article in The New York Times.

01:18:09.460 Of course, praised it.

01:18:10.960 Yeah, I praised it the next day, didn't I?

01:18:13.040 No, you did not.

01:18:13.920 Do we have enough time for another clip or not?

01:18:15.820 Because we do have one from January 7th.

01:18:17.820 If we want to go into that.

01:18:18.800 Go ahead.

01:18:19.600 When people have lost their jobs.

01:18:24.780 Are living in states where there's draconian measures.

01:18:33.420 They've been told to shut their business down.

01:18:36.740 And they've been told to pipe down because you want to kill grandma.

01:18:40.200 Meanwhile, people like Cuomo are actually killing grandma and grandpa.

01:18:46.800 When people have done everything they can and actually started, in my example, started from the premise that, yeah, Donald Trump probably was working with the Russians.

01:19:07.700 Yeah, well, if he was doing something, he should go to jail and then actually did the work and found out the exact opposite was true.

01:19:18.640 And the more you found out, the more you realized, the entire government seemed to be in on it.

01:19:26.600 The FBI knew that this was a plan from Clinton.

01:19:31.740 They knew it.

01:19:34.360 And they did nothing.

01:19:37.060 And when you expose it, no one goes to jail.

01:19:40.540 When people feel as though their voice is being silenced.

01:19:52.300 That even their own representatives from their own party treat them like garbage.

01:19:59.280 When they've been called racist, bigots.

01:20:02.520 When they've been called conspiracy theorists over things like the Hunter Biden laptop.

01:20:11.680 That now the press says, oh, I guess there is something there.

01:20:16.200 But we all feel that nothing will ever happen.

01:20:22.640 What are they supposed to do?

01:20:25.200 Now, here's, let me make this very clear.

01:20:28.600 They are not supposed to get violent.

01:20:32.520 We have a right of free speech, of petitioning our government.

01:20:38.460 We have a right to demand answers.

01:20:45.800 But we don't destroy the Capitol.

01:20:51.520 Pretty clear.

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01:21:56.580 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:22:04.200 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:22:06.380 If you missed last night's Trump interview on my Wednesday night special,

01:22:13.080 you really missed something great, I think.

01:22:15.740 Very, very hopeful, positive, looking towards the future.

01:22:20.860 Stu and I will go over that coming up later in the second half of next hour.

01:22:25.920 Go through some of the audio from the Trump interview.

01:22:30.540 But we want to spend one more break here on January 6th and set the record straight.

01:22:37.800 The House Republicans are wondering why the Democrats are blocking so many records related to January 6th.

01:22:50.740 And they're demanding some answers.

01:22:53.320 Will they get them?

01:22:55.300 Talk to a guy from Illinois, the congressman from Illinois, Rodney Davis, who is leading the charge.

01:23:01.820 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:23:04.980 I have COVID.

01:23:07.500 And so I'm going to kind of hang back a little bit here for the next hour.

01:23:12.940 It's weird.

01:23:14.760 I've had COVID before.

01:23:16.200 I had it before the vaccine came out.

01:23:18.600 And now I just have it again.

01:23:20.780 But I think this is a lot different than it was last time.

01:23:24.020 This is just like a really bad head cold and just beat me up.

01:23:31.900 But not in the way the first COVID that I had beat me up.

01:23:36.420 Yeah, that hit you really hard, right?

01:23:38.780 Yeah, that hit me really hard.

01:23:40.160 I mean, I was I was not I didn't have my energy back for a couple of weeks.

01:23:43.520 You know, there's no way on the last COVID I could have done a show.

01:23:48.760 No way.

01:23:49.740 No way.

01:23:50.520 Forty five seconds.

01:23:52.140 So anyway, I appreciate your prayers.

01:23:56.200 It is it is it is appreciated.

01:24:00.260 Now, if anybody can get me some ivermectin, that would be.

01:24:08.380 Actually, I don't think that works for this new Omicron, does it?

01:24:11.660 I don't know.

01:24:12.640 I haven't I haven't seen much on that.

01:24:14.840 But, you know, there is all sorts of stuff.

01:24:16.880 Like I know one of the monoclonal antibodies, there's three different types of them.

01:24:20.180 And two of them don't seem to work against Omicron.

01:24:22.500 One of them does.

01:24:23.280 But it's the one in the least supply.

01:24:25.340 So it's been it's it's been a fun couple of years.

01:24:27.820 I'll say that.

01:24:28.640 Yeah, I tried to get that monoclonal antibody treatment yesterday.

01:24:34.580 Couldn't find it.

01:24:42.640 Got no room to compromise.

01:24:58.840 We got to stand together if we're gonna survive.

01:25:04.840 Stand up straight and hold the line.

01:25:10.800 Stand up straight and hold the line.

01:25:12.800 It's a new day, I'm trying to rise.

01:25:16.720 What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:25:24.800 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:25:28.920 Stand up straight and hold the line.

01:25:30.920 It's fascinating to me that on 9-11, within a week, we knew who all the hijackers were.

01:25:38.920 We knew their connections.

01:25:41.240 We knew where everything was coming from within a week.

01:25:45.020 Now we have the worst attack on the Capitol in all of American history a year ago today.

01:25:51.480 And we still don't have any idea what's gone on.

01:25:55.620 We have not found the ringleaders, I think, because there weren't any ringleaders.

01:26:02.620 They're still talking about we're going to prosecute everyone to the fullest extent,

01:26:07.660 even if they were just at the Capitol walking around.

01:26:12.000 Nobody's been charged with insurrection or sedition.

01:26:15.980 So what's really going on here?

01:26:18.140 And how is it that a year later, we still don't know?

01:26:22.640 And why is it that Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats are not releasing the tapes

01:26:29.560 and any kind of record leading up to January 6th?

01:26:34.200 We're going to talk to a guy who's demanding that answer from Nancy Pelosi and others.

01:26:41.900 And he's in Congress himself from Illinois.

01:26:44.800 Congressman Rodney Davis joins us in 60 seconds.

01:26:52.540 All right.

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01:27:01.700 Yeah, I've had it a couple of times.

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01:27:21.040 And then I did have someone, which is a weird thing.

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01:27:28.660 It's weird because they say, I've talked to LifeLock about this.

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01:27:40.720 Yeah.

01:27:41.020 But this guy didn't.

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01:27:43.800 Either that or we caught it in time.

01:27:46.060 You know, I mean, this is what LifeLock does.

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01:28:37.520 So we have Rodney Davis on with us.

01:28:39.660 He's a congressman from Illinois.

01:28:42.020 He has just written a strongly worded letter, which I've always loved when it comes to the

01:28:49.100 United Nations.

01:28:50.320 But I don't know if he's going to get any answers on this.

01:28:53.660 I hope he does.

01:28:54.600 He's written a letter to Nancy Pelosi, and he's here to tell us the answers he's demanding,

01:29:02.240 along with other Republicans.

01:29:04.920 Congressman, how are you, sir?

01:29:07.180 I'm doing great, Glenn.

01:29:08.340 Thanks for having me on.

01:29:10.160 You bet.

01:29:10.700 You bet.

01:29:11.580 Okay, so what are the things you're asking for in this letter from Nancy Pelosi?

01:29:17.220 Well, number one, Glenn, you know, Republicans condemned the violence that took place a year

01:29:22.020 ago.

01:29:22.640 That was unanimous.

01:29:24.000 But here we are today, still left wondering, what did the sergeant-at-arms of the House,

01:29:30.460 the lead law enforcement official appointed directly by the Speaker, what did he do in

01:29:37.400 preparation leading up to January 6th?

01:29:39.640 There has been conflicting testimony.

01:29:41.760 And all I've ever asked for as the lead Republican on the respective oversight committee is just

01:29:46.660 to get the communications.

01:29:48.140 We want to know what preparations were made.

01:29:49.920 And the only person standing in the way of us getting the communications from her own

01:29:55.280 appointee who controls the House security operations is Speaker Pelosi.

01:30:00.920 Okay, so you're not asking for anything special.

01:30:03.580 You sit on the oversight committee.

01:30:05.860 You are the lead opposition.

01:30:08.940 So you, of course, are going to ask for these things.

01:30:12.040 You've just asked for the emails and the transmissions back and forth on preparations for January 6th.

01:30:21.780 Now, I've talked to Donald Trump.

01:30:22.940 He said that he offered the National Guard to Washington.

01:30:28.340 I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he said.

01:30:31.080 But he said he was turned down.

01:30:33.300 Nancy Pelosi, did they turn help down?

01:30:36.840 Well, that's what we don't know.

01:30:40.660 And it's ironic, Glenn, that you've got U.S. citizens who no longer work for government,

01:30:46.360 volunteering to turn over thousands of communications, text, emails, letters, etc.,

01:30:51.040 to the January 6th Select Committee.

01:30:53.820 But Speaker Pelosi will not even turn over the communications of her own appointee

01:30:59.200 who's in charge of security on the House side of the Capitol.

01:31:03.380 And he's a government employee.

01:31:04.820 He was, the current government employee that she appoints, will also not turn that information over to us.

01:31:11.540 The question is, what is she hiding?

01:31:13.540 And we could get a lot of answers based on conflicting testimony in front of the Senate investigation

01:31:19.540 almost, you know, just under a year ago.

01:31:23.140 And we ought to be able to get the answers because the American people deserve to know

01:31:26.720 why the security posture was so bad.

01:31:29.720 And frankly, Glenn, I don't think it's any better today if we were to go through another event

01:31:34.520 like we did.

01:31:36.180 I don't think so either.

01:31:37.940 I mean, unless you're coming in disguised as COVID.

01:31:42.380 Congressman, let me ask you, are you going to be able to get any of these answers?

01:31:47.980 I mean, it seems that bad people do bad things all over the country now,

01:31:54.000 and nobody's ever held accountable.

01:31:57.440 Do you, is there any teeth that can be engaged to get the Speaker to comply?

01:32:06.040 Well, unfortunately, the House is a very majority-driven institution.

01:32:10.000 And remember, the Capitol Police Chief cannot make a single security decision without going

01:32:15.760 to Speaker Pelosi's appointed Sergeant-at-Arms.

01:32:20.260 That's her own political appointee.

01:32:22.420 You know when I'm going to get this information?

01:32:24.460 It's when I'm the chairman of the House Administration Committee, when Republicans take over Congress

01:32:29.400 in November of 2022.

01:32:32.100 And I have laid out that I am serious.

01:32:34.900 I want all of these communications at that time.

01:32:38.040 And if they are destroyed, or they no longer exist when I get there, I will hold as chairman

01:32:43.280 of the House Admin Committee anyone who's responsible for that criminally accountable.

01:32:48.580 And you will be able to do that?

01:32:51.620 Absolutely, I will.

01:32:53.420 And I dare them to try and not preserve those communications.

01:32:58.300 And I dare them to test me on that.

01:33:00.340 So, Congressman, explain what the endgame here is.

01:33:05.780 I mean, I just can't figure out, unless they really, truly believe, they're going to have

01:33:09.960 power until the end of time.

01:33:12.040 This is all going to come out at some point.

01:33:15.620 What is the endgame here that you think they're playing?

01:33:20.180 I wish I could get into their minds and find out what their endgames are.

01:33:24.340 But all they do is play political games.

01:33:26.240 And this is where the Speaker likes to deflect that she has no jurisdiction over the Capitol

01:33:32.320 security.

01:33:32.960 We all know that's BS.

01:33:34.660 Her own legislative counsel, general counsel, is the one that's telling the Sergeant-at-Arms

01:33:40.000 that he cannot turn this information over to us after conflicting testimony in the Senate

01:33:45.720 between then-Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving and then-Police Chief Steve Sun, who are no longer

01:33:50.760 in their jobs.

01:33:51.780 The current Sergeant-at-Arms will not turn this over.

01:33:53.880 However, their endgame is to delay and deflect.

01:33:57.740 And then when we do take the majority, my goal is to make sure that we get the answers

01:34:02.020 we need.

01:34:02.440 Because my job as the lead Republican on this House Admin Committee and as the future chairman

01:34:08.660 of that committee is to make sure the security posture of the Capitol never fails again.

01:34:14.420 Congressman, I talked to the president last night, did an interview with him, and I gave

01:34:23.820 him a list of all of the agencies that need to be cleared out from top to bottom.

01:34:28.060 And it's going to take enormous courage to clean this nest of vipers out.

01:34:36.520 And it's going to take partners to do it as well.

01:34:42.040 Now, the people that have power, all that anyone wants, I think both Republican and Democrat,

01:34:51.320 all that people want is that if you actually did something, that you pay a price.

01:34:58.060 Like, I have no problem with people who broke into the Capitol, did damage or whatever.

01:35:03.260 I have no problem charging them and having them go to jail for a few months.

01:35:08.480 Not political, but because they broke other laws.

01:35:11.780 The same needs to go for the people in Congress.

01:35:15.140 Do you believe the Republicans have the spine and the cleanliness, if you will, to be able

01:35:23.860 to take this up against them?

01:35:27.100 You know, I can't speak for anybody else in Congress except for myself, Glenn.

01:35:31.040 And I can tell you that I will do everything within the power of my committee, as the chair

01:35:36.740 of the House Admin Committee, to hold them criminally accountable, especially if they

01:35:41.540 do not abide by our preservation requests.

01:35:44.520 So yes, I do believe the Republicans as a whole can hold the Democrats accountable, but

01:35:50.660 I can only do what my job is.

01:35:52.440 And my job on this particular committee is to make sure that the Capitol is safe.

01:35:57.540 And also, when we take over, I'll make sure the Capitol is open again, so that people

01:36:02.760 and student groups can come back and see what the Capitol and the entire complex is all

01:36:08.680 about.

01:36:10.720 One last question.

01:36:11.800 I don't know if you have the answer to this or looked into it.

01:36:14.340 We can't seem to get any information.

01:36:16.960 It's like Gitmo.

01:36:18.460 We can't seem to get any real information from anybody about how many people are still being

01:36:25.560 held that haven't been either charged or tried.

01:36:29.300 We don't know the conditions that these people are living in who were arrested last year.

01:36:36.580 Is there any way to get that information?

01:36:38.940 Well, when, yes, when we take over the House and we have Chairman Jim Jordan of the Judiciary

01:36:47.300 Committee, we have Chairman Jamie Comer of the Oversight Committee, and me on House

01:36:51.380 administration, you know what we're going to do?

01:36:53.340 We're going to ask for those officials responsible for what we've seen even the judicial branch say,

01:37:00.620 hang on a second, something's not right here at the D.C. prison facility.

01:37:05.100 We're going to have to have them come in and testify.

01:37:07.300 The Democrats don't want to hear from them.

01:37:09.800 And remember, the only office that has been declared off-limits for this January 6th Select

01:37:16.020 Committee is Nancy Pelosi's office.

01:37:20.900 When you look at the Capitol Police, it is run by Nancy Pelosi.

01:37:30.560 It is a, it's, it's the tool, if you will, or the police force for the House majority leader.

01:37:39.840 I cannot think of a reason why our founders did it that way.

01:37:44.900 Maybe, maybe they just trusted that, you know, people would always be on the up and up.

01:37:49.280 But do you have any idea what's going on with the Capitol Police and their new approach to being an

01:37:55.020 intelligence arm of our government?

01:38:00.400 Well, the intelligence division of the Capitol Police is one of the main divisions that failed

01:38:04.620 leading up to January 6th.

01:38:07.020 Evidence clearly shows that they were given direct intelligence from the Norfolk FBI office

01:38:12.460 that said an imminent attack on the Capitol may be forthcoming.

01:38:15.740 The police chief of the Capitol Police at the time didn't even have that intelligence.

01:38:21.300 I spoke with him the day after and the multiple days after.

01:38:25.560 And this is a problem that has yet to be fixed, in my opinion.

01:38:30.160 But here's the thing, right?

01:38:31.900 That Capitol Police chief can't make security decisions on his own.

01:38:35.580 It's got to go through the political appointee, the sergeant at arms.

01:38:40.580 One, one last question.

01:38:43.060 Should the Capitol Police be something that could be FOIA'd?

01:38:50.260 Because we can't even, we can't even have a Freedom of Information Act that they respond to

01:38:55.180 because they fall into a different category that is controlled by the Speaker of the House.

01:39:01.060 I don't think that's good for the Republicans or the Democrats or Independents to ever have that.

01:39:06.520 Should this police force be able to be FOIA'd?

01:39:10.580 Well, you know what?

01:39:11.480 I'm glad you brought that up, Glenn.

01:39:13.060 Because long before January 6th, when I took over the Leader of Public on the House Administration Committee,

01:39:18.640 I introduced a bill to reform the processes that the Capitol Police follow,

01:39:23.580 make them more transparent, make them more accountable.

01:39:26.800 And I did not get that bill even in one committee hearing or be able to have one markup of it,

01:39:34.680 be able to debate the need to open up and make the Capitol Police more transparent.

01:39:39.260 And I'll do that as the chairman.

01:39:40.860 Representative Congressman Rodney Davis from Illinois, Rodney, when you become the chairman,

01:39:50.480 you call me and I will do everything I can to rally the troops to make sure you can change this with the Capitol Police.

01:39:57.240 I think with them being a secretive operation, it is a very, very dangerous thing to the Republic.

01:40:04.020 So thank you so much for your hard work.

01:40:05.760 Well, thank you, Glenn.

01:40:07.720 Take care.

01:40:09.000 You bet. Bye-bye.

01:40:09.900 Rodney Davis, Congressman from Illinois.

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01:41:26.220 Stu, I'm about out of steam.

01:41:27.560 I'm going to let you kind of take the reins here a bit, and I'll sit back a little bit.

01:41:32.900 But we want to talk about Donald Trump, the interview that happened last night.

01:41:37.580 I thought it was an exceptional interview.

01:41:39.920 And I'm not saying that because I did it.

01:41:42.560 I think it was exceptional because Donald Trump, his answers were hopeful and clear.

01:41:49.080 Yeah, I think we're going to play some of the audio here of that in just a few minutes

01:41:53.360 and kind of go through what he was going on about because your focus there was very much

01:42:00.620 on the future and what is coming next.

01:42:03.340 There's an article in Rolling Stone today.

01:42:05.820 The title was Rolling Stone.

01:42:07.900 From wind power killing all your birds to fake California gas prices, Trump talks everything

01:42:14.160 but January 6th in the Glenn Beck interview, which is fascinating.

01:42:19.300 Of course, you said multiple times on the air that you were not asking him about that

01:42:23.100 because you didn't want to rehash the past.

01:42:25.240 You were going into the future.

01:42:26.820 They may have missed those shows, though.

01:42:28.760 Yeah.

01:42:29.060 Well, I will tell you, my producers wrote up a bunch of questions for January 6th,

01:42:34.620 and I decided beforehand to have them just in case I wanted to go there.

01:42:40.080 But I really wanted to focus on the future, and I was hoping that I would get a few extra

01:42:45.760 minutes at the end that we could tag on on that, but I didn't think it was even necessary.

01:42:51.840 You know, the right and the left look at January 6th very differently.

01:42:56.860 I don't like the way that Donald Trump handled January 6th, but I don't think he plotted it.

01:43:04.300 I don't think he planned it.

01:43:05.700 I don't think he wanted, you know, people to be hung in the streets or anything like that.

01:43:11.600 That's just not who he is.

01:43:14.160 But, you know, they can harp on it all they want.

01:43:17.300 I think America is much more interested in looking to who is going to lead us to the next level here.

01:43:24.980 Yeah, I think that's what people are looking forward to.

01:43:27.500 Now, look, I think there's interesting things on January 6th that we still need to learn.

01:43:34.120 We were just talking to the congressman about what those things might be.

01:43:38.280 What information don't we have?

01:43:39.820 And I think in a real world with a real, civilized, competent government, there could be a real use for a committee of sorts to look into the events of January 6th to learn things that would actually help us prevent the next type, next riot that might happen in the future.

01:44:02.340 You know, all my money would be on it's coming from the left.

01:44:06.240 But whoever it's coming from, I would want to prevent it.

01:44:10.180 And if we had an actual, competent, honest government to look into these things, there could be value there.

01:44:17.880 The problem is that that is not what we're looking at now.

01:44:20.620 That's not what we're looking at at all.

01:44:21.900 You know, there is no reason to look at the investigation of January 6th and come to the conclusion that it's anything other than politics.

01:44:32.020 And I think it's been clear since the beginning that the left wants to turn January 6th into a date that we memorialize, like we memorialize September 11th.

01:44:45.020 That we can look at every year, we can rehash these events and we can memorialize them and think about all the bad things that have happened and every person on the right who is at fault for it.

01:44:58.040 And the people who are responsible for the bad things and the crimes that went on absolutely should be held accountable.

01:45:04.380 You know, look, we're conservatives here.

01:45:06.800 We're the ones that don't want bottles bashing off the side of police officers' heads.

01:45:11.280 We're the ones that complain about that stuff.

01:45:14.560 You look at the footage from January 6th and you can find a lot of examples of people doing things, particularly to police officers, that are completely unacceptable to any conservative I've ever spoken to in my entire life.

01:45:29.780 Now, I cannot say the same for every liberal.

01:45:33.740 I cannot say the same for people like Colin Kaepernick, who wear socks, you know, calling police officers pigs.

01:45:42.580 The left has been saying you can do all sorts of terrible things to police officers.

01:45:46.700 I've never heard anyone on the right say things like that.

01:45:51.400 And I think that's why January 6th was so shocking.

01:45:54.260 Some of that stuff did go on and it was completely unacceptable when it did.

01:45:57.660 But you can overstate what happened on January 6th, just like you can understate it.

01:46:05.120 And we have to make sure we get that balance correct.

01:46:08.820 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:46:12.140 So many years ago, our COVID positive friend Glenn Beck had an idea.

01:46:18.860 He said, you know, I've watched what's going on with all of my real estate transactions and I've realized I've had a lot of bad real estate agents.

01:46:26.580 Either all real estate agents are really, really terrible at what they do or I'm getting the wrong ones.

01:46:34.140 But what do you do?

01:46:35.060 How do you pick a real estate agent when you are going through the most important financial transaction you probably will in your entire life?

01:46:41.480 You're buying or selling your home.

01:46:43.600 Well, what we do now is maybe you go online, you're on Zillow or something, you see a name under the house that looks nice.

01:46:49.720 You click on that name.

01:46:50.760 But that's not a way to go pick a real estate agent.

01:46:53.300 If you're going by a bus bench and you see somebody's face painted on there and it says, call me, I'm a realtor.

01:46:59.880 That's not a great idea.

01:47:01.580 You know someone who knows someone who knows someone who's in real estate?

01:47:04.540 That's not the way to do it.

01:47:05.400 You need to have a screening process for someone who's going to represent you in a really important financial transaction.

01:47:11.080 And that's why Glenn recreated realestateagentsitrust.com.

01:47:15.020 You can go there now and find the best real estate agent in your area, whether you're buying or selling a home.

01:47:20.420 It's realestateagentsitrust.com.

01:47:22.820 Check it out.

01:47:24.260 And check out the Donald Trump Glenn Beck interview.

01:47:26.420 You can get it online now on demand.

01:47:28.200 BlazeTV.com slash Glenn.

01:47:30.040 Promo code is Glenn.

01:47:31.560 If you happen to think that there's a level of importance to having some mechanism to push back against the misinformation that we get from the mainstream media all the time,

01:47:52.820 I hope you would consider becoming a subscriber to BlazeTV.

01:47:57.100 BlazeTV.com slash Glenn is the place to go to get that subscription.

01:48:00.520 You can save 10 bucks by using the promo code Glenn.

01:48:04.200 You'll also get access to an interview that Glenn did with Donald Trump.

01:48:07.900 This interview happened right before the holidays at Mar-a-Lago.

01:48:12.260 And it was not a January 6th themed interview, which is what the media is completely obsessed with.

01:48:20.660 There were important things that happened on January 6th.

01:48:23.220 We've talked at length about them.

01:48:25.140 But there are other things to talk about.

01:48:27.840 And in the middle of the Omicron wave that we are in right now, Glenn is currently caught up in that wave.

01:48:35.420 He's sick at home with the COVID.

01:48:38.040 But like the other information we've had about Omicron, it does seem to be considerably less terrible than his previous bout with COVID that he had back at the end of 2020.

01:48:51.900 The interview went into some of the stuff surrounding COVID, particularly Anthony Fauci.

01:48:58.540 How to think about him, how to think about his time in the Trump administration and where we should go from here.

01:49:03.260 Here's Glenn and Trump talking about Anthony Fauci.

01:49:05.940 I think when this was coming out of China, it was perfectly reasonable to shut everything down because we didn't know.

01:49:13.440 They were welding people into their homes in China.

01:49:16.460 We had no idea and they weren't being opened.

01:49:18.120 And by the way, they weld them in and they never opened.

01:49:20.560 That was the end of them.

01:49:23.440 Fauci, I wanted to give everybody the benefit of the doubt in those early days.

01:49:27.960 We have done a ton of research.

01:49:30.840 I did one of the biggest chalkboards I think I've ever done.

01:49:35.340 They were using federal government money to do...

01:49:39.960 Wuhan.

01:49:40.900 Yeah, in Wuhan.

01:49:41.840 I stopped it.

01:49:43.180 I was the one that stopped it.

01:49:44.860 Well, you did, but I don't think Fauci cared about that.

01:49:49.000 Fauci's now claiming he's science.

01:49:51.980 Did you ever...

01:49:52.980 Would he still be working for you today?

01:49:58.220 No, not now, but he's a great promoter.

01:50:02.100 He's not a great doctor, but he's a great promoter.

01:50:04.480 But you have to understand, everything he wanted, I didn't do.

01:50:06.940 As an example, he wanted to keep it open to China.

01:50:09.880 He ultimately was wrong about that and admitted it and admitted that I saved tens of thousands of lives.

01:50:16.320 He wanted to keep it open.

01:50:17.820 I saw what was happening in Italy and France and Spain, and I closed it to Europe very early.

01:50:23.480 You know, in China, it was January I closed it, and in Europe, it was shortly thereafter.

01:50:27.880 We saved thousands and thousands of lives.

01:50:31.100 He wanted to do that.

01:50:32.000 And then his big one of them all is the masks are useless.

01:50:37.180 They don't mean anything.

01:50:38.060 And then all of a sudden, he wants you to wear 10 masks.

01:50:40.960 You know, wear as many as you can, put them all over, cover your ears, do everything.

01:50:44.520 So I didn't really do much of what he said, and he wasn't a big factor for me, in a sense, because of that.

01:50:54.360 It's always important to cover your ears with your mask.

01:50:56.800 Always remember that Anthony Fauci told you that.

01:50:59.100 It's an important thing to remember as we go through this Omicron wave.

01:51:02.320 Now, of course, Joe Biden promised he was going to come in and not shut down the country, but shut down the virus.

01:51:08.120 That obviously has not occurred.

01:51:10.760 A gigantic failing of what he promised before the election.

01:51:15.760 However, I don't know if it's his biggest failure.

01:51:18.360 Perhaps his biggest failure was Afghanistan.

01:51:21.260 And Glenn talked to former President Trump about that as well.

01:51:23.940 In 18 months, not one American soldier was killed.

01:51:28.080 And I wanted to get out more than anybody.

01:51:30.240 You know that.

01:51:31.000 I got it down to 2,500 soldiers.

01:51:33.100 We were going to take everything out.

01:51:34.620 All the equipment was starting.

01:51:36.020 And I said, I don't want to leave a nail, a screw, a bolt, a tank, a plane.

01:51:41.320 Everything comes out.

01:51:42.160 Even the tents that we used as the hangers.

01:51:44.320 They said, sir, it's cheaper to leave it.

01:51:46.400 I said, we're taking everything.

01:51:48.060 And we were going to keep Bagram.

01:51:49.600 Bagram, very important, because Bagram bombed the other five places.

01:51:53.920 And I said, bomb them from air.

01:51:55.300 Use it as practice.

01:51:56.820 But we're keeping Bagram because it's right next to China, one hour away from where they make nuclear weapons.

01:52:02.220 And to watch these people give up everything.

01:52:04.640 And now China is occupying Bagram.

01:52:08.440 I mean, an absolute, an absolute disgrace.

01:52:11.500 Joe Biden has been on that.

01:52:13.120 And I think people forget about it because there's a new one every single week.

01:52:15.960 One of the other big stories of the past year has been the rise of conservatives in particular, but people from all across the political spectrum, understanding what's going on with our education system.

01:52:28.420 We obviously saw the big election results in Virginia that highlighted that perhaps to a level that we hadn't seen in quite a long time when it comes to education.

01:52:38.640 Glenn also asked about what we should be doing with education going forward with former President Trump.

01:52:46.380 Is it time to get rid of the Department of Education and give the schools back to the states and to the parents?

01:52:54.200 So I wanted to do that.

01:52:56.320 We would have done that or we would have done a very big form of it.

01:52:59.620 And you have people in Washington, D.C. that don't even care about the kids.

01:53:05.220 They're bureaucrats.

01:53:06.020 They're working in Washington.

01:53:07.300 And they're telling people in Iowa and they're telling people in Idaho and in other places, faraway places, where every place is different.

01:53:16.640 They're telling them exactly what they're going to study.

01:53:19.300 You don't need that.

01:53:20.080 There should be a little coordination, like you have to learn English.

01:53:23.820 You have to have some basic math.

01:53:25.920 But what they were doing was terrible.

01:53:27.520 And then what happened is it started getting into the whole cancel culture thing and all of the different things that you've been reading about, which is totally true.

01:53:35.280 What they were doing, it's totally true.

01:53:37.320 They tried to say with the Yunkin race, which was very good, which we helped them a lot.

01:53:43.460 It would have been a big, I'll tell you what, that would have been a terrible result if we didn't.

01:53:49.360 But that was a good race.

01:53:51.040 And people really saw what was happening with the schools.

01:53:53.460 So I think it's a great thing to get the heck out of Washington.

01:54:00.300 You know, some of these states do a great, a terrific job.

01:54:03.340 They can't move because of the federal government.

01:54:05.920 They can't do what they want to do.

01:54:07.760 And look at where we stand internationally.

01:54:10.600 We spend three times more for education per student than any other country in the world.

01:54:16.560 And we're in 38th place.

01:54:19.580 It's terrible.

01:54:20.840 So you give it back to the states where the states and some of these states will do a fantastic job.

01:54:25.500 Not all of them.

01:54:26.180 You have some that have badly run themselves.

01:54:27.860 They're not going to do so well.

01:54:29.400 But you'll have states that are doing a phenomenal job.

01:54:31.960 They'll be they'll be doing a job like Norway, like Sweden.

01:54:36.680 I hate to say this, like China.

01:54:38.420 So we are here on January 6th and we all know that the January 6th media sort of tale here is about how Republicans and Trump supporters believe the election was stolen and they ransacked the Capitol.

01:54:57.960 That is just the new the new theft of the election narrative that we're getting from from from the media.

01:55:09.580 The old one was that the election really was stolen, but that election was 2016.

01:55:14.120 As we know, of course, the Trump administration and the incoming Trump campaign worked closely with Vladimir Putin to arrange the election in 2016 so that our hero Hillary Clinton would be denied to be the first female president of the United States.

01:55:34.600 That was at least what we were told for multiple years.

01:55:37.180 Now, I guess that's in the background, but Trump was asked by Glenn about Russia, about Putin and what is the really important thing we should be thinking about when we're talking about a global situation that does seem to be on the brink of all sorts of trouble.

01:55:55.440 Here is Glenn talking to President Trump about Vladimir Putin.

01:55:59.720 One of the first things that Joe Biden did was to stop the Keystone pipeline and then say to Russia, you can build your pipeline.

01:56:10.600 That's something that Reagan forever.

01:56:13.340 We've been saying, don't do that.

01:56:15.920 Poland begged him.

01:56:17.340 Ukraine begged him.

01:56:18.600 Don't do that.

01:56:20.100 You had.

01:56:21.140 I stopped it.

01:56:21.900 You had stopped it.

01:56:22.980 It was done.

01:56:23.700 Correct.

01:56:24.860 If if you would have done that, people would have said, see, there's he's in bed.

01:56:28.520 He's friends with Putin.

01:56:29.480 He loves Putin.

01:56:30.880 You know, it's like crazy.

01:56:32.100 I watched this is being taped in what is it?

01:56:35.980 November or December and we'll be airing in January.

01:56:40.780 But I think it was this week.

01:56:42.740 I watched Putin look at Joe Biden.

01:56:47.300 I didn't see respect or fear from him, a fear of the United States or respect for the United States.

01:56:54.100 True.

01:56:54.420 You know, Putin, you know how he thinks, you know how to deal with him.

01:57:03.800 Is he going to move into Ukraine, do you think?

01:57:06.220 Well, it's looking like that.

01:57:07.480 And, you know, when Biden told him about what he was talking about sanctions, when Biden says sanctions, Putin saying sanctions, if they're only going to sanction, then there's no sanction that's going to stop me from taking over a country.

01:57:22.000 And by the way, it's a massive piece of land in an unbelievable location.

01:57:26.320 Right.

01:57:26.880 You know that.

01:57:27.820 But he didn't say there could be very serious consequence.

01:57:31.600 A sanction is not a serious consequence, no matter how strong it is.

01:57:34.440 Not when it comes to taking over a country.

01:57:37.740 And there was no fear.

01:57:40.400 One of the things that has been interesting about the reaction to this interview from Blaze TV subscribers and people who have listened to the interview in its entirety is that it was able to bring them back to optimism a little bit.

01:57:54.140 I think the last year, I mean, certainly the last couple of years have been really tough on so many people and especially for conservatives going into a Biden administration where it seems we are just in a nonstop catastrophe.

01:58:07.320 Every single issue this guy puts his fingers on turns to garbage and it's hard for the American people to look at that and have any hope for the future.

01:58:19.720 Glenn asked him about this a little bit and it kind of starts talking about how we're going to deal with energy.

01:58:26.600 But I think the hope of the future is really the overarching, I don't know, the unifying theory of this particular interview.

01:58:36.860 You can get the entire thing at blazetv.com slash Glenn.

01:58:40.400 Here's Glenn Beck with President Trump.

01:58:42.360 Are we going to be in three years in trouble if our banks are putting the small gas oil fracking coal people out and fundamentally changing the structure for green energy?

01:58:59.700 Yeah.

01:59:00.100 Can we recover from that?

01:59:02.480 No.

01:59:02.740 Quickly?

01:59:03.240 No.

01:59:03.440 Because the green energy is not strong enough to fire up those plants and to do all of this.

01:59:07.800 I'm saying, though, let's just pretend that you're going to be president in three years.

01:59:13.720 Can we turn this around and get on track?

01:59:18.660 Quickly.

01:59:19.380 Quickly.

01:59:19.560 We can.

01:59:20.100 Yeah, we can.

01:59:21.000 I mean, we have to have optimism.

01:59:22.560 And this is more than optimism.

01:59:24.220 This is fact.

01:59:25.440 We were energy independent 11 months ago.

01:59:28.740 Totally energy independent.

01:59:30.480 And now we're going to OPEC to beg them for oil.

01:59:33.720 I know.

01:59:34.020 We're going to OPEC, Saudi Arabia, Russia.

01:59:36.840 We're going to Russia.

01:59:38.140 We're making Russia so rich.

01:59:40.500 You know, when I ended the pipeline in Russia, everyone said, oh, I'm so nice to Russia.

01:59:44.480 I got along great with Putin and with President Xi and with all of them.

01:59:47.700 But there was never anybody tough like I was on that.

01:59:50.800 And with the tariffs on China, we took in billions and billions of dollars and frankly brought a lot of businesses back home because it no longer made sense for them to do things in China.

01:59:59.560 But when they did the pipeline and look at Russia, their primary thing is oil and the cost.

02:00:08.400 What we're doing is we're making them rich.

02:00:11.620 Interesting that Donald Trump did not seem to have a problem entertaining the idea that he might be president in three years.

02:00:17.340 Didn't push back on that one at all.

02:00:20.720 The entire interview, it's about an hour.

02:00:22.920 It's available at blazetv.com slash Glenn.

02:00:26.260 Promo code is Glenn.

02:00:27.380 And you can kind of take the entire thing in and really they go over pretty much every single issue dealing with the future, looking forward.

02:00:40.140 The Rolling Stone today, as I mentioned, is all upset that Glenn didn't ask him about January 6th.

02:00:45.460 Well, I mean, what are we getting out of that?

02:00:47.560 What's the point of that?

02:00:48.380 The point is not to look back and rehash every single argument from last year or five years ago or 10 years ago.

02:00:54.780 The much more important thing is to look forward and see where this country can go in the future, whether that's under a President Trump or somebody else.

02:01:05.460 We have to have some level of optimism that we can turn around all the things that President Biden and everybody he's associated with is doing to our country today.

02:01:14.280 It's all available at blazetv.com slash Glenn.

02:01:17.360 Promo code is Glenn.

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02:02:43.720 The Glenn Beck Program.

02:02:52.460 888-727-BECK is the phone number.

02:02:56.080 It is January 6th.

02:02:57.720 There's no need to downplay what was wrong with that date.

02:03:01.200 And there was a lot wrong.

02:03:02.260 140 officers were injured or assaulted on that day.

02:03:06.640 But as we look at this and we look at the grand scheme of things, it's impossible to take seriously

02:03:13.280 that the left cares about that.

02:03:15.140 They never care about police officers being assaulted.

02:03:17.820 This is just not in their DNA.

02:03:19.240 In the George Floyd riots, 2,037 police officers were assaulted or injured.

02:03:26.340 2,037 in the George Floyd riots, 140 in the Capitol riots.

02:03:30.680 It does not mean we downplay what happened at the Capitol.

02:03:34.260 That was bad.

02:03:35.600 But we should also not downplay, minimize, memory hole what happened during the George Floyd riots.

02:03:43.180 Both were terrible.

02:03:44.080 There were 710 arrests at the Capitol.

02:03:48.780 However, there was 16,241 arrests when it comes around the George Floyd riots.

02:03:55.640 Almost all of those people had their charges dropped.

02:04:00.760 Not the case with the Capitol riots.

02:04:02.620 The damage is, of course, about $1.5 million at the Capitol and about $2 billion when it comes

02:04:12.540 to the George Floyd riots.

02:04:15.140 Both events were bad.

02:04:17.120 Both events were problematic.

02:04:18.720 They had different impacts and different symbolism attached to them.

02:04:22.960 But both should be rejected.

02:04:25.640 This sort of activity is always wrong.

02:04:29.200 And we know that.

02:04:30.640 I don't know that the left does, though.

02:04:36.100 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

02:04:38.540 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

The Glenn Beck Program - January 06, 2022

The Pandemic of Fear ｜ Guests： Rep. Rodney Davis & Darren Beattie ｜ 1⧸6⧸22

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