The Glenn Beck Program - The Pursuit To Love Our Enemies？｜ Guests： Tim Ballard & Arthur Brooks

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00:00:08.340 Well, here we are. Here we are with another day with the media talking about absolute nonsense when some real crisis is happening someplace in our country.

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00:02:14.340 So yesterday I received an op-ed from a friend. He said, Glenn, would you read this?

00:02:29.000 We wanted to publish it. So it's up on the blaze now.

00:02:32.120 Our friend is Tim Ballard, who is the the CEO or chairman or I don't remember what you are.

00:02:39.920 The CEO of of the Nazarene Fund. And also, are you the CEO of of Operation Underground Railroad and of McDonald's and of McDonald's?

00:02:49.780 Yeah, which is impressive because you're very busy. Yeah, very busy.

00:02:52.660 Yeah. And a handsome man joining us, joining us right away.

00:02:57.700 I want to go through the the article.

00:03:00.060 The first two paragraphs are stunning for entirely different reasons.

00:03:04.300 But let me just read the first two paragraphs.

00:03:06.280 A couple of weeks ago, I was called to testify before a subcommittee of the House Homeland Security Committee.

00:03:11.360 As former Homeland Security special agent undercover operator, I worked child trafficking cases for over a decade along the southern border.

00:03:19.380 I was there to testify about the sex trafficking threat that awaits vulnerable migrant children being brought into the United States.

00:03:26.680 Shortly after I began my testimony, the chairwoman of the committee politely but firmly let me know that my testimony was irrelevant for this particular hearing.

00:03:35.040 As this hearing was about the U.S. government's policy of separating undocumented families on the borders and not about child trafficking.

00:03:42.920 As it is against hearing procedure for a witness to provide unsolicited comments to the members of the committee,

00:03:49.380 I had to sit there in silence, yet with full knowledge that the chairwoman was wrong.

00:03:55.820 Yep.

00:03:56.600 Tim, how frustrating is that?

00:03:58.360 It's killing me because it's these trafficking events are happening in so many places.

00:04:03.560 And we're trying to wake the nations of the world up to the fact that it is happening.

00:04:09.320 Children are being abused.

00:04:10.400 It's the fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet.

00:04:12.900 And yet when it's right before us, and I'm there before the people who can change it, and I'm told...

00:04:19.600 Shut up.

00:04:19.940 Shut up.

00:04:20.420 We don't want to talk about that right now.

00:04:22.000 Tell me, the numbers are staggering on what's happening on our border.

00:04:27.500 Oh, yeah.

00:04:28.640 I mean, the amount of people, just the people coming across.

00:04:32.440 Record-breaking, undocumented migrants coming across into the United States.

00:04:37.660 But the part that's not being reported, because in the 90s and the 2000s, it was adult males looking for work, crossing the border.

00:04:46.840 Not anymore.

00:04:48.260 These are children.

00:04:49.200 They're bringing...

00:04:49.640 Children are coming across by the thousands.

00:04:52.020 There's been over a 300% increase since 2017 alone.

00:04:56.000 And children being brought across the border who don't belong to the adult who has them.

00:05:03.720 So we said, when Congress was saying, we can't hold children, I immediately got on the air and said, that is the worst thing that could happen.

00:05:13.360 That's the worst thing that could happen, because grab a child and you're good.

00:05:16.740 The child is now the get-out-of-jail-free card for smugglers, for traffickers.

00:05:22.560 They're surrendering themselves and say, look, I have a child in my hand, a passport in my hand.

00:05:28.920 Let me in.

00:05:29.960 And the guys on the border, they're great.

00:05:32.580 They understand.

00:05:33.260 And they're like, help us.

00:05:34.140 They're screaming to Congress.

00:05:35.460 I sat in hearings with the CBP commissioner who's saying, help us.

00:05:39.760 You are forcing us to turn these children over to whoever comes to get them.

00:05:45.280 We only have 20 days.

00:05:46.320 The courts have backed it up, and we have 20 days to vet people coming and saying, hello, I wrote in the hotbed, hello, I'm Uncle George.

00:05:54.800 Little Isabel, six-year-old that you have in custody, is my niece.

00:05:58.900 They have to give the child to Uncle George.

00:06:01.840 They have no time to vet these kids.

00:06:03.460 In contrast, you know I adopted two children recently from Haiti.

00:06:07.360 It was over one year of them vetting me.

00:06:09.860 I've had three top-secret clearances in my lifetime.

00:06:13.220 I'm the one who liberated those children in the first place, and yet I happily submitted myself and my wife and my family to an investigation to make sure we were well-suited to take care of children.

00:06:26.500 A year.

00:06:28.500 And Congress is giving our Cubs and Border officials 20 days or less to vet whoever shows up for these children.

00:06:37.160 Oh, sure, they have to sign a document, right, that says, I will not hurt this child, I will not traffic this child, like you're checking out a library book.

00:06:46.820 And then it says, a court date, you must bring this child back for either a deportation or asylum hearing on this date.

00:06:53.740 66% of those kids never are brought back for court.

00:06:57.120 They're gone.

00:06:57.660 All right, so there are two scenarios that are happening with the kids.

00:07:01.100 One is they are just used and passed back and forth on the border, right?

00:07:06.940 They're kind of a mule, if you will.

00:07:09.100 Is that the right word?

00:07:10.140 Right, well, I say they're recycled.

00:07:12.080 They're the get-out-of-jail-free card, basically.

00:07:13.760 And that's the best case, and it's abhorrent.

00:07:16.060 Children are being used as long as you have these kids.

00:07:18.140 And by the way, where are these kids coming from?

00:07:19.500 They're being kidnapped in Central America.

00:07:21.880 The separation of families isn't happening necessarily at the border.

00:07:26.860 It's happening well before they get to the border, and that's the thing we're not seeing as a nation.

00:07:31.800 And so these kids are basically, the smugglers control all the routes, first of all.

00:07:35.660 You can't get in the country unless you go through a smuggler.

00:07:38.400 So they just have to get these children.

00:07:39.760 It's not too hard to kidnap children in Guatemala or Honduras or Central America.

00:07:43.220 And they take these kids, and they pair them with their clients,

00:07:45.520 their clients being the people who want to be smuggled in.

00:07:47.720 And say, take this child, pretend this child is your child, and guys, 20 days or less, you're out.

00:07:54.500 Because they have to let you out, because the law of the United States,

00:07:57.560 backed by recent court decisions, forces CBP officials to release you within 20 days

00:08:03.040 if you have this child in your hand.

00:08:04.680 That's the best case for these children who are being used this way.

00:08:09.260 And of course, the worst case is the smugglers say, and we have the New York Times,

00:08:13.660 even about a month ago, had a story, several stories, about how smugglers take these clients

00:08:19.880 and decide, jeez, I can make a lot more money with them if I just sell them for sex.

00:08:23.820 Or they use them, they rape them and get their money out of them for what they're owed for the smuggling fee.

00:08:30.960 And so it's very easy to imagine a criminal organization that are smuggling people,

00:08:35.820 and they say, let's sex traffic them, we can make more money.

00:08:39.220 The U.S., we are the demand.

00:08:40.680 We are the top demand for child sex in the world.

00:08:43.500 That is crazy.

00:08:44.740 So now we've set things up, and all using our laws, right?

00:08:48.280 So now, if you can imagine this, all a trafficker needs to do if you get into their mind

00:08:52.220 is say, look, I've got to take this child.

00:08:55.020 As long as I can get this child across.

00:08:56.440 And I mean, I saw a video, I don't know if you saw this video a few months ago,

00:09:00.080 they're dropping the kids over the wall, over the fence, just dropping them,

00:09:03.860 and then they know Border Patrol will come get them and get them into safety.

00:09:08.200 Well, then they just call their friends up in the traffickers, their friends in New York, Phoenix, wherever.

00:09:12.580 Hey, go to the McAllen Processing Center, ask for Isabel Gomez, she's six years old,

00:09:17.500 I just dropped her over the fence, and so Uncle George shows up.

00:09:20.700 Hey, I'm Uncle George, I've got to pick up my niece.

00:09:23.300 They have to give the kid over.

00:09:25.400 It is absolutely insane.

00:09:27.760 And I couldn't get a word in edgewise when I was called to testify on that very subject.

00:09:32.780 So now here's the interesting part.

00:09:35.080 1,700 children in the last 12 months, 1,700 children have had the guts to say,

00:09:46.900 that's not my uncle, that's not my dad.

00:09:51.300 1,700 documented cases in the last 12 months.

00:09:56.960 How many kids are not brave enough to say that?

00:10:00.500 How many kids have been told, your family's in danger, your family's dead, whatever it is.

00:10:07.380 How many children have the guts and the wherewithal to see a guy, an American with a badge, and say, help me?

00:10:19.460 How many?

00:10:21.160 There have been 1,700 in the last 12 months.

00:10:24.940 And that number is only growing.

00:10:27.460 Oh, absolutely.

00:10:28.020 And the amount of people coming across, hundreds of thousands, just this year, I think we're close to half a million.

00:10:35.440 So, you know, how many kids are here and in, and they're in our sex markets.

00:10:40.600 And we rescue them, and you've met some of our survivors, Glenn, who came in as undocumented migrant children and were raped,

00:10:50.280 and this is not an exaggeration, over 20,000 times before we finally pulled them out of New York City or L.A.

00:10:56.260 or wherever they're being held.

00:10:57.500 I mean, this is a massive sex market.

00:10:59.900 Again, the fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet is human trafficking, and the United States is the number one demand for child sex.

00:11:06.920 So it's happening in our cities right here, and the traffickers are laughing all the way because our laws are actually facilitating the trafficking event.

00:11:14.140 We've made it so much easier.

00:11:15.540 Yeah.

00:11:15.780 We've made it, we've made it, we've made it easy to come in.

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00:12:45.260 All right, so Tim Ballard is with us from Operation Underground Railroad and the Nazarene Fund.

00:13:05.240 And we're talking about the border and this absolute epidemic.

00:13:10.160 I have Arthur Brooks coming in in a minute, and Arthur is from the American Enterprise Institute, and this guy has a heart of gold and knows how to frame things to speak to people's hearts.

00:13:25.380 And I want to ask him about this, because we're not framing the border in any way to connect with people's hearts at all.

00:13:35.200 And what's happening is just overwhelmingly evil.

00:13:41.480 Just overwhelmingly evil.

00:13:43.720 You went to Congress prepared to give them two solutions.

00:13:47.960 They didn't want to hear it.

00:13:48.980 That's right.

00:13:49.340 So you never were allowed to even present these.

00:13:51.600 I was not allowed to, no.

00:13:54.240 No.

00:13:55.620 I remember the first time you told me what you really did.

00:13:58.680 You were undercover.

00:14:00.240 And the thing you said is, I can't do it anymore because we have solutions, and our government ties our hands.

00:14:08.680 Can't do them.

00:14:09.240 So what are the two solutions on this?

00:14:12.520 Well, you know, there needs to be many, many, many solutions.

00:14:15.920 The problem is so vast.

00:14:17.840 So I would just want to take baby steps.

00:14:19.880 Yeah.

00:14:20.100 Things we can do immediately.

00:14:21.600 Right.

00:14:21.900 Immediately.

00:14:22.640 Again, this is not a catch-all.

00:14:25.560 It's not going to resolve everything.

00:14:27.680 But first of all, we have to have a vetting process in place.

00:14:30.820 I don't know what that looks like, but I would call on the good people on both sides of the aisle to come together, drop the politics.

00:14:36.740 It's so political.

00:14:37.640 I'm so tired of it.

00:14:38.360 Like, can children transcend politics?

00:14:41.480 I think, I hope yes.

00:14:42.900 I hope that's the one thing that I hope, you know.

00:14:44.980 I'm not really seeing it quite yet.

00:14:46.760 Yeah.

00:14:47.180 But can we just drop everything else and not say Trump or Republican or Democrat.

00:14:52.180 Just say children.

00:14:53.480 Children.

00:14:54.080 How do we help these children right now?

00:14:57.260 There has to be a vetting process.

00:14:58.600 Why wouldn't we?

00:14:59.660 Why wouldn't we, you know, if we found an abandoned child in New York City, there would be a vetting process in place to make sure that if someone shows up to be mom and dad,

00:15:08.360 there's going to be a process in place.

00:15:09.900 Why wouldn't we grant that same process to a migrant child who's completely innocent and scared to death and we just want to get them home to their families?

00:15:18.780 Again, it's right now, it's a library book checkout system.

00:15:21.300 It's just signed for the kid.

00:15:22.520 It's horrible, you know.

00:15:24.080 And so a vetting process has to be put in place.

00:15:26.660 There should be an investigation, judicial identity hearings where a judge can weigh in.

00:15:32.000 This is what we would do with an abandoned child in New York City who's a U.S. citizen.

00:15:36.520 Make sure that the person claiming to be mom and dad or uncle or aunt is, in fact, that thing.

00:15:41.360 You can do a DNA test.

00:15:42.500 DNA testing, yeah.

00:15:43.420 And that's two hours.

00:15:44.780 I'm working with a company.

00:15:45.700 It's cutting-edge technology.

00:15:46.860 We're using the technology in Haiti right now to bring children back to their parents who are lost.

00:15:52.380 Two hours.

00:15:53.200 It's rapid DNA technology.

00:15:55.100 We can determine whether they're related that quickly.

00:15:57.820 Get that deployed at our borders right now.

00:16:01.600 Right now.

00:16:02.180 There's no excuse right now.

00:16:04.100 And then the other solution, which can also happen right now, is let's temporary duty,

00:16:09.880 TDY, judges, immigration judges, asylum judges, put those courts into our U.S. embassies,

00:16:15.600 particularly in Central America where the floods are coming, the caravans are coming out.

00:16:20.740 And because there's legitimate asylum seekers.

00:16:23.040 And for them, we're forcing them really to drag their families and their children thousands

00:16:28.040 of miles to see a judge through dangerous country, through precarious border towns.

00:16:33.320 Causing chaos in everyone's life.

00:16:35.140 Right.

00:16:35.420 Just put immigration, asylum courts in our embassies.

00:16:38.860 Let them come there.

00:16:40.060 Now, someone's going to say, oh, well, they're in danger.

00:16:42.380 Well, if there is a credible threat, there's something we could do to help protect them in

00:16:45.960 those cases.

00:16:47.340 But the most important thing it does is it takes the incentive out of the traffickers.

00:16:52.300 Because now the trafficker shows up with the kid who's not their kid, and the immigration

00:16:57.280 official, the customs official says, I'm sorry, you need to go to your country and see

00:17:01.160 the judge.

00:17:02.080 No more 20-day loophole.

00:17:04.180 And so guess what?

00:17:04.820 They're not going to go to the judge because they don't have a legitimate claim, and they're

00:17:07.620 going to give up the scheme.

00:17:08.800 They're going to stop taking kids and using them as pawns, or worse, as sex slaves.

00:17:12.980 So these are things that, Glenn, we could do now.

00:17:15.900 It doesn't take a whole lot of time to send, to create these immigration.

00:17:20.120 You just need a room and a judge, you know, and start building this up.

00:17:24.260 Didn't Mike Lee and Ted Cruz also, weren't they working together to try to come up with

00:17:30.800 a way to put a whole bunch of judges down on the border to be able to, I mean, this seems

00:17:36.960 to me to be a better system.

00:17:39.360 But we can do these things, and no one is talking about it.

00:17:44.400 They tried to do that, I think, about a year ago.

00:17:46.900 Nobody was willing to even talk about it.

00:17:48.540 That's right.

00:17:48.860 Well, it's funny, bringing up Senator Lee, I was with him, actually, and giving this

00:17:52.600 very proposal after I got on my hearing, where I couldn't talk.

00:17:55.320 I went to his office and said, Mike, help me.

00:17:57.380 They won't listen to me.

00:17:58.300 He's like, well, I'll listen to you.

00:17:59.080 What do you need?

00:17:59.900 And so we're now moving forward on the Senate side to get this bill passed, to make these

00:18:06.600 things happen immediately.

00:18:07.820 So Senator Lee is definitely engaged.

00:18:10.680 Is this the first time that this has happened to you in Congress where they just were not

00:18:16.400 interested, that it was a show trial?

00:18:19.000 No, the other time, I was testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and Lindsey

00:18:26.660 Graham was the chair, and he let me say what I needed to say.

00:18:31.640 But this time, it was clearly a political thing.

00:18:34.740 I could tell.

00:18:35.500 Well, you know, I've been open about the fact that barriers and walls, we're not supposed

00:18:44.220 to say that word, but barriers of any kind clearly force traffic to ports of entry.

00:18:50.640 And my, again, my number one concern are children.

00:18:54.640 I know how many children are smuggled, trafficked through wall-less, barrier-less parts of

00:19:00.200 the border.

00:19:00.720 So let's force the traffickers to go to where police are, to where customs officials are,

00:19:05.280 and they're trained to look for children.

00:19:07.100 It's a very simple concept, and yet that was, Glenn, this is so, and I briefed the president

00:19:10.980 on the same concept.

00:19:12.640 We lost 1,000 donors.

00:19:15.160 Can you believe this?

00:19:15.940 1,000 people who used to help us rescue children stopped, gave up because I sat with the commander

00:19:24.620 in chief of the United States.

00:19:25.320 And by the way, I would have given the same briefing to President Obama.

00:19:28.340 I worked under Bush 43.

00:19:30.800 Nothing's ever changed.

00:19:32.380 Everyone's always believed that barriers control traffic and help rescue children because it

00:19:37.100 forces the children or the traffickers into the places where they can be rescued.

00:19:40.460 It's two plus two equals four.

00:19:41.920 And yet I go and give that testimony to the current president of the United States, and

00:19:46.160 I lose 1,000 donors overnight.

00:19:48.600 And I thought to myself, is that where we're at, where we hate one person more than we love

00:19:53.400 rescuing children?

00:19:54.620 It's very discouraging.

00:19:56.540 You know, maybe we can gain 1,000 more today right now.

00:19:59.480 Yeah, I was going to say, if you haven't pledged to help ourrescue.org, Operation Underground

00:20:09.080 Railroad, please, please do.

00:20:11.180 This really, that number really saddens me as well.

00:20:14.680 You and I both believe that the one thing America can come together on is slavery is bad.

00:20:21.020 Smuggling children, smuggling humans, bad.

00:20:23.980 Right.

00:20:24.440 You know, kidnapping children, bad.

00:20:26.260 And it's the one thing that we have seen over and over again, that even the people who

00:20:31.180 are the furthest apart can come together.

00:20:34.300 Absolutely.

00:20:34.660 And it's not political for me at all.

00:20:36.420 No.

00:20:36.560 At all at all.

00:20:37.300 No, it's not.

00:20:37.560 Like I said, I would give the same testimony to anyone who called me.

00:20:40.360 Yeah.

00:20:40.460 I don't care from what party.

00:20:41.400 It doesn't matter.

00:20:41.980 Yeah.

00:20:42.380 It's simple solutions to rescue children.

00:20:44.520 And I know, I know they work.

00:20:46.220 They will obviously work.

00:20:47.580 This is all I've been doing my entire life on that southern border.

00:20:50.580 So I am an expert, not in a lot of things, but in this, I'm an expert.

00:20:54.580 I know what will rescue children at the southern border, and I'll tell anyone who will listen.

00:20:59.100 And too many people are politicizing it.

00:21:01.700 Join us at OurRescue.org, OurRescue.org.

00:21:06.600 Tim, as always, good to have you.

00:21:07.820 Thank you so much.

00:21:08.440 You can read his, and please share it, read his op-ed on TheBlaze.com.

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00:22:38.260 Coming up, one of our favorite people, outgoing president of American Enterprise Institute, Arthur Brooks, joins us in studio.

00:22:44.900 That's coming up next here in the Glenn Beck Program.

00:22:50.040 We are thrilled to have Arthur Brooks, president of the American Enterprise Institute, at least for a little while longer.

00:22:55.540 He's leaving the organization that he started, and he's going to become a professor at Harvard.

00:23:05.680 Welcome to the program.

00:23:06.800 Thank you, Glenn.

00:23:07.580 Great to see you.

00:23:08.440 Good to see you.

00:23:08.880 So we have to start with a very long time lie we've been living.

00:23:13.220 What is it?

00:23:13.780 Stu and I both have a very difficult time, and we just, for our friendship's sake, we want this out.

00:23:21.600 Okay, let's get it out there.

00:23:22.640 Let's get this fixed.

00:23:24.000 We both have the worst time.

00:23:28.440 We call you Albert Brooks all the time.

00:23:32.300 This has to be a nightmare of your life.

00:23:34.560 Yeah, so two years ago, I was at sort of a camp thing for lots and lots of guys, and we were all hanging around.

00:23:41.280 And I looked toward my left around a campfire, and there was sitting Albert Brooks, you know, the film director, the comedian.

00:23:47.780 And I looked at him, and I said, you're Albert Brooks.

00:23:50.840 And he said, what's your name?

00:23:51.540 And I said, my name is Arthur Brooks.

00:23:52.760 And he said, no.

00:23:54.100 I said, yeah.

00:23:54.740 And you know what else?

00:23:55.900 People have been calling me Albert Brooks since I was a kid.

00:23:58.140 He's like 10 years older than I am.

00:23:59.540 He said, since I was a kid.

00:24:00.520 And because you're so famous, and he looks at me, he doesn't crack a smile, and he says, imagine how Adam Hitler felt.

00:24:10.900 So if we call you Albert, it's just, it's all good.

00:24:14.720 You know, I've been here my whole life.

00:24:16.420 Better than calling you Adam Hitler.

00:24:17.740 Yeah, I'll say that.

00:24:18.780 Every time we talk to you, we look at each other like, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur.

00:24:23.940 Oh, it's terrible.

00:24:24.900 I don't even like, I mean, Albert Brooks is fine, he's funny, but it's not like I'm a huge fan of his movies.

00:24:29.760 I don't know why.

00:24:30.560 You know his real name is?

00:24:32.360 No.

00:24:32.900 Albert Einstein is his real name.

00:24:35.640 Shut up.

00:24:36.180 I'm kidding.

00:24:36.800 I'm not kidding you.

00:24:37.860 It's Albert Einstein.

00:24:38.480 Well, you're kidding or you're not kidding?

00:24:39.440 I'm not kidding.

00:24:39.880 I promise I'm not kidding.

00:24:40.780 And what happened is he changed it to Albert Brooks, because you're not going to go into show business named Albert Einstein.

00:24:47.140 You should change your name to Albert Einstein.

00:24:49.240 I should change my name to Arthur Einstein.

00:24:52.720 And people will still call me Albert.

00:24:55.840 All right.

00:24:56.420 So, Arthur, you have a new documentary out, and I have seen it, and it is really good.

00:25:02.040 Really good.

00:25:02.820 Thank you, Clint.

00:25:03.200 You are, you know, we were talking the other day about Buttigieg, and he is the, he's playing it the nice guy.

00:25:15.800 Right.

00:25:16.360 He may be a nice guy.

00:25:17.600 I don't know anything about him other than, you know, what you read about.

00:25:20.260 And he seems like a really nice, normal guy, a guy who comes out and says, yeah, I'm gay.

00:25:24.540 And you know what?

00:25:25.560 I also eat Chick-fil-A, and I like it.

00:25:28.320 Right.

00:25:29.120 And it's a guy who's coming out now and saying, you know, I don't hate everybody that you're supposed to hate.

00:25:37.180 That's fighting fire with water.

00:25:40.120 Right.

00:25:40.380 And that usually works.

00:25:43.480 It generally does, particularly after a period of hate and polarization.

00:25:46.860 The reason that that actually can work right now is because 93% of Americans say they hate how divided we become as a country.

00:25:54.940 And every single person listening to us right now loves somebody with whom they disagree politically.

00:25:59.520 But there's a class that's getting rich and powerful and famous, largely in politics and in media and on campuses, saying you've got to hate people who you disagree with.

00:26:08.240 That they're deviant, they're stupid, and they're evil.

00:26:10.500 And in our hearts, we know that's wrong.

00:26:12.620 You know, in this movie you talked about, in The Pursuit, in this movie, you know, we sit down with people who call themselves democratic socialists.

00:26:18.840 They're awesome people.

00:26:20.520 They're great people.

00:26:21.380 They love their fellow men and women.

00:26:23.180 I have different policy ideas.

00:26:24.720 I think I have better ways to get at their objectives.

00:26:26.980 But their objectives aren't wrong, and most people know that.

00:26:30.300 And so Pete Buttigieg and a few other people are actually going to, they're trying to rage against the contempt machine in this country by saying, you want something better.

00:26:40.720 The product is crummy.

00:26:41.960 I'm going to give it to you.

00:26:42.760 Will it win?

00:26:43.440 We'll see.

00:26:44.620 Will it even get past the people who are making an awful lot of money on hate and vengeance?

00:26:49.580 The outrage industrial complex.

00:26:51.540 Yeah, we don't know.

00:26:52.780 Here's a clip of The Pursuit.

00:26:56.520 I don't claim to have all the answers, but the answers that I've found have truly changed my life.

00:27:01.460 Arthur Brooks, sir!

00:27:05.160 Thank you, Mr. President.

00:27:06.240 It's an honor to be here and with all of you.

00:27:08.060 Poverty is the thing I care about the most.

00:27:10.280 I think that the suspicion that people have about capitalism comes because they think people like me don't believe in morals and they don't believe in any regulation at all.

00:27:23.060 That's not true.

00:27:23.580 Here's the great irony of our times.

00:27:27.320 People in the wealthiest countries in the world are increasingly turning against the very system that's lifted us out of poverty.

00:27:34.320 If India had not adopted economic reforms, there would be 375 million poor people more in the country today.

00:27:41.720 Whatever we've got to do to get the American dream honestly, then that's what we're going to do, you know?

00:27:46.600 The American dream is always predicated on you work hard, you get the right grades, you go to the right schools, and a lot of times it doesn't work that way.

00:27:56.460 The real poverty exists when a young man or a young woman grows up with no dream.

00:28:02.800 That's poverty, man.

00:28:07.120 You know, cold goes away.

00:28:08.520 What are we going to do?

00:28:09.220 They didn't think about that.

00:28:10.040 They didn't expect it.

00:28:10.820 They didn't expect it.

00:28:12.620 Two billion people have been pulled out of starvation level poverty.

00:28:16.100 What did that?

00:28:19.580 Everyone wants a happy life.

00:28:22.380 Do not want suffering.

00:28:23.960 You are showing genuine interest.

00:28:26.540 Not only money matter, but more wider perspective, ideally.

00:28:31.280 Very much appreciate it.

00:28:32.500 Thank you.

00:28:33.040 Thank you, Your Holiness.

00:28:39.200 The point of the American experience is a moral consensus that our society should push opportunity to the people who need it the most.

00:28:49.760 Here's why Arthur Brooks is even more talented than Albert Brooks.

00:28:56.540 Albert's listening.

00:28:58.040 He, if you watch that, you are the only person that believes in the free market that I have seen that understands heart and imagery.

00:29:11.940 You're not there with the Pope.

00:29:14.160 You're there with the Dalai Lama.

00:29:16.460 You are on stage with a French horn, and it says in the trailer, a musician.

00:29:23.340 That is not a guy next to a tractor, and you are able to break through to the other side.

00:29:34.900 There's images of you with briefing President Obama.

00:29:41.760 You are able to get in to places that most conservatives or most constitutionalist and strict libertarian, real liberals, classic liberals, can't go, nor care to go.

00:29:57.460 And you have all of the imagery that you need to be able to break the divide.

00:30:05.740 Yeah, that's the idea, and that's how a movie can really change people's conversations in a big way.

00:30:11.900 You know, one of the things I was trying to do in this film, and what I've been trying to do with my career, by the way, is to get to the places where traditional conservatives don't get to go and have the conversations they don't typically have.

00:30:22.960 Why? Not just because I'm going to convince people on the other side, because I want people who are persuadable, who are watching the conversation to say, huh, you know, I saw a guy who's got free market views, who believes in conservative ideas.

00:30:37.740 Why? Because he wants to lift people up from the margins, and he was having a conversation with iconic figures from the other side.

00:30:43.720 And no horns, no anger, no vitriol, no contempt, no hatred, no disrespect.

00:30:50.160 And, you know, that's really what people want.

00:30:52.260 And if we want to win the country for a better set of ideas so that we can have more solidarity and brotherhood and happiness and love in this country, we need to go where we're not invited.

00:31:02.020 We need to say the things that people have not heard before.

00:31:05.020 We need to share with everybody is the bottom line.

00:31:08.180 And that's what puts joy in our hearts.

00:31:09.940 Glenn, you've been trying to do this, too.

00:31:12.000 You know, you want to talk to everybody.

00:31:14.940 I mean, when I look at, you know, what the charity is doing.

00:31:18.120 I mean, I saw the trailer for your charity yesterday at the Dallas Film Festival where the pursuit was.

00:31:23.500 And it blew my mind.

00:31:25.820 I mean, there's no way that somebody's going to say, oh, it's Glenn Beck, the conservative guy.

00:31:28.880 They would say, this is an organization dedicated to ending slavery around the world, to lifting people up.

00:31:34.240 It has no ideology about it whatsoever.

00:31:36.840 And that's the point, isn't it?

00:31:38.400 We want the best for everybody.

00:31:40.060 Conservatives lose arguments because they go in with guns blazing, saying, here's what I'm against.

00:31:46.760 And if you disagree with me, you're stupid and evil.

00:31:48.840 And here's the problem.

00:31:49.900 I said this to Stu yesterday.

00:31:53.060 Who was it?

00:31:54.040 What was the candidate that said?

00:31:55.840 I think it was Beto that Americans are against the conservative and Republican agenda?

00:32:03.480 I don't even know what that is.

00:32:06.240 I really don't even know what that is.

00:32:09.700 There's not that they're not for it.

00:32:12.460 I don't think they know what it is.

00:32:14.260 Yeah.

00:32:14.620 You know, we're against an awful lot of stuff.

00:32:16.880 But who's out there talking about?

00:32:19.040 You know, I watch your documentary.

00:32:20.420 I've always thought of, please forgive my ignorance.

00:32:25.380 I was a dummy up until I hit 30s.

00:32:29.720 I did no nothing.

00:32:31.260 I was a musician.

00:32:32.140 I was worse than that.

00:32:32.920 No, you at least could play a horn.

00:32:37.260 But I've always thought of India as a capitalist system.

00:32:41.760 And, you know, I'm watching your documentary and I'm like, oh, my gosh, no, no, it wasn't.

00:32:48.480 It was the furthest thing from a capitalist free market system.

00:32:51.860 It was a Soviet planned economy until the early 1990s.

00:32:56.100 Amazing.

00:32:57.240 That's incredible.

00:32:58.020 And since they've abandoned that, we've seen massive changes.

00:33:01.600 It has one of the highest growth rates in the world.

00:33:04.040 You know, you go to India.

00:33:04.700 Growth rates in?

00:33:06.060 In the world.

00:33:07.140 And the great growth rates and economic growth rates in the world.

00:33:09.440 Thank you.

00:33:10.720 Incredible.

00:33:11.260 When you go there, you find that 375 million Indians have been pulled out of abject starvation level poverty.

00:33:17.980 And they're among the 2 billion that have been pulled out of poverty because of the free enterprise system,

00:33:22.160 because the American system of globalization, free trade, property rights, all the stuff that we take for granted.

00:33:26.820 The culture of upward mobility.

00:33:29.340 And the culture of now making something yourself, doing something, starting something small.

00:33:36.720 And now, with the tools of the internet, being able to sell it anywhere in the world.

00:33:41.360 I was struck in the documentary of it almost felt like New York must have felt in 1900.

00:33:51.580 Yeah, that's the point.

00:33:52.400 And it's a point that I make in the film.

00:33:53.740 Because if you look at the footage of New York, you say the garment industry, for example, the lorry side of Manhattan in 1910, it looks just like slums in India do today.

00:34:06.720 And people are in industry.

00:34:08.120 The truth is that people live a lot better in slums in India than they did in New York in 1910 because they have health care and their kids go to school and they have a lot of possibilities.

00:34:15.380 But it looks the same.

00:34:16.680 And what that brings home to me, and it's controversial to say, but I honestly believe that, is that those people living in slums or in India, they're us separated by time.

00:34:25.460 And if we can't look at these people around the world and see ourselves in them, what's wrong with us?

00:34:34.920 Look, you know, the Beck's were scratching out potatoes in Ireland a few generations ago.

00:34:39.540 And look at you.

00:34:40.260 They were ambitious riffraff.

00:34:41.920 That's America.

00:34:43.320 And that's what moves me.

00:34:45.440 And that's what we need to spread and change the world with are these ideals.

00:34:48.640 Hans Rosling makes this point in Factfulness, which is his first time I ever thought of it the way you just described it.

00:34:54.100 It's really a time issue.

00:34:55.800 It's not us and them.

00:34:57.380 It's not first world and third world.

00:34:59.520 These are countries that are coming along at a lot of times accelerated paces than what more accelerated paces than what we did.

00:35:06.140 But they are just a little bit behind.

00:35:08.820 All these things are happening.

00:35:10.160 All these incredible improvements in the places that have implemented some basic form of a free market.

00:35:16.940 They're seeing those same things.

00:35:18.400 And that's a glorious miracle.

00:35:20.780 Yeah.

00:35:21.080 You must have capitalism.

00:35:22.200 And since capitalism has started to spread around the world and capitalism gets a bad name because it sort of means everything and nothing.

00:35:29.280 But what we're talking about is the free enterprise system bounded with appropriate regulation and basic human morality has has alleviated 80 percent of starvation level poverty since I was a kid.

00:35:39.980 Most 70 percent of Americans think that hunger has gotten worse.

00:35:43.140 It's gotten better.

00:35:43.820 80 percent better.

00:35:44.900 I mean, it's the greatest humanitarian achievement in the history of the human race.

00:35:49.280 And it's happened since Glenn Beck and Arthur Brooks were kids.

00:35:52.300 We got to spread that from the rooftops.

00:35:53.940 And the reason is not just to be done, not just to cry victory.

00:35:56.920 It's because we need the next two billion of our brothers and sisters.

00:35:59.920 They're out there and they need us.

00:36:02.120 And charity.

00:36:03.320 It's good.

00:36:03.680 Maybe it'll get us to heaven.

00:36:04.620 But you got to have a system that works while you sleep.

00:36:06.780 And we've found it and we can spread it.

00:36:08.900 And we got to fight for it, not because it's good for business, not because it makes us rich, but because that's what will alleviate suffering will help us to serve others, which we need and which will allow everybody to earn the success, which is the expression of the radical equality of human dignity, which is what we really believe.

00:36:24.940 Back in just a second with the brother of Albert Brooks, Arthur Brooks from the American Free Enterprise System and soon to be a professor at Harvard, which I don't know how he's doing it.

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00:37:50.840 Arthur Brooks is with us.

00:37:52.640 Why are you going?

00:37:53.780 Why are you going away from the American enterprise?

00:37:56.620 Why are you going to Harvard?

00:37:59.520 You know, I've been running A.E.I. for 10 years.

00:38:01.380 When I came in, A.E.I. was started in 1938.

00:38:03.720 It's a really old organization.

00:38:04.840 In the past 10 years, we had phenomenal growth.

00:38:07.200 We've hired tons of people.

00:38:08.540 We've had a big impact.

00:38:09.560 We've stayed in the world of ideas as opposed to be getting dragged into politics.

00:38:12.920 I did what I said I was going to do operationally.

00:38:16.480 And I promised him 10 years.

00:38:17.660 And I know when you stay much more than 10 years in a place like A.E.I.

00:38:20.220 as president of a think tank, it's not the best things don't happen.

00:38:24.480 Part of it is because you start losing energy.

00:38:26.740 And so it's also you get too identified with one person.

00:38:29.300 So I say, you know, I prayed about it for a long time.

00:38:30.800 You know, I prayed for discernment.

00:38:32.360 What am I supposed to do next?

00:38:34.420 And I was an academic before.

00:38:37.020 I taught at Syracuse for a long time.

00:38:38.540 And I resigned my position with no net.

00:38:40.820 And I heard from about 10 universities.

00:38:43.580 Some other things, too.

00:38:44.660 You know, and a university is a really good thing because it provides an opportunity to do a tremendous amount of creative work.

00:38:50.740 And the really incredible thing from Harvard is that Harvard called and said, we want you to come teach here.

00:38:56.420 And I said, why?

00:38:57.620 And they said, because you think differently.

00:38:59.700 And we want to shake things up.

00:39:01.740 And I said, for sure, it's great.

00:39:05.460 It's great.

00:39:05.800 Is it going to be resistance to my ideas?

00:39:07.920 I hope so.

00:39:08.840 Because that's the opportunity.

00:39:10.640 You know, when you're in the mission field, when you're in the mission field, you don't want to go where everybody's already converted.

00:39:16.600 Exactly right.

00:39:17.460 And they're not in the university.

00:39:19.900 And it's a great university.

00:39:21.260 All right.

00:39:21.600 Back in just a second with more from Arthur Brooks.

00:39:25.420 And I want to talk a little bit about what's coming in America and what each of us should do.

00:39:33.160 I've got a tough question for Arthur Brooks.

00:39:35.560 Oh, I have one, too.

00:39:36.360 Yeah, do you?

00:39:36.840 Can I ask one, too?

00:39:37.540 Yeah.

00:39:37.980 You might.

00:39:38.520 Okay.

00:39:38.840 I love the tough questions.

00:39:39.620 All right.

00:39:39.800 Good.

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00:39:41.560 All right.

00:39:41.740 We're going to come up with that in just a second.

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00:41:02.520 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:04.460 Welcome to the program.

00:41:07.700 Today, we may have a guy who has an answer on how to begin to fix our country and back away from the ledge.

00:41:20.040 Arthur Brooks joins us in one minute.

00:41:25.260 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:27.200 You know, with so much hate and enmity between us and people saying,

00:41:34.540 it's not your stuff, it's my stuff, smash and grab, all the things that are going on in the world,

00:41:39.280 man, you've got so much to worry about.

00:41:41.540 Don't worry about your safety and your home's safety.

00:41:45.940 Studies show that there's only, what is it, Stu?

00:41:49.120 16%?

00:41:49.600 Yeah, 16% of the American population has a security system.

00:41:54.940 That's a stunning statistic to me.

00:41:56.400 That's amazing.

00:41:57.400 Now, maybe it's because I grew up in a small town called Mount Vernon, Washington.

00:42:01.120 I think we went on vacation and we never locked our house.

00:42:03.760 I mean, I lived in one of those communities where, key?

00:42:07.700 Who got a key?

00:42:08.200 I never remember anybody in my family fumbling around for the key to open the door.

00:42:12.700 Yeah, culturally, it's, I mean, because I have a relative who did never lock their doors at their house.

00:42:17.320 Had their house robbed and still didn't lock their doors after that.

00:42:21.400 Didn't put in a system after that.

00:42:24.660 Which is kind of an incredible thing.

00:42:26.040 You'd think if your house is actually robbed, you'd probably put in a system.

00:42:28.580 Everything, you're like, the odds that I'm going to be robbed twice.

00:42:30.520 They know now that you don't lock your doors, the odds are better.

00:42:35.320 So, 16% of the people have a security system.

00:42:38.480 This is why when burglars come, they usually come during the day.

00:42:41.460 They don't want to meet you and you don't want to meet them.

00:42:43.460 They usually come during the day.

00:42:44.540 They look in.

00:42:45.200 They see if you have a security system.

00:42:46.600 And if it's on, if it's on and you have one, they just go to the next house.

00:42:50.940 80% of burglars just move on to the next house.

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00:43:42.660 So Arthur Brooks, he is the president of the American Enterprise Institute.

00:43:47.860 He is also leaving there to become a professor at Harvard.

00:43:52.460 God bless you, man.

00:43:54.340 And he is a producer of a new documentary called The Pursuit, and it's all about the free market system.

00:44:02.000 It is something that everyone should be watching, and especially if you have people who are, you know, Democratic Socialists or Socialists or your kids in college, they should watch this.

00:44:14.820 It has the heart that the free market system should have when we're selling it.

00:44:20.160 It's not all facts and statistics.

00:44:23.600 It has a lot in.

00:44:26.100 However, it is really more about lifting people up from poverty.

00:44:30.340 And it comes out in a few weeks, right?

00:44:31.340 Yeah, it does.

00:44:31.900 Well, it's in showings all over the country right now.

00:44:34.100 So it's in screenings in about 100 communities.

00:44:36.980 We're in three international film festivals, and it'll be on digital platforms starting this summer, and it'll be on Netflix starting in August.

00:44:43.960 Oh, wow.

00:44:44.340 Yeah.

00:44:44.700 That's going to be really great.

00:44:45.460 Yeah, I'm so happy about that.

00:44:46.900 I mean, like, my whole career has been dedicated to trying to lift people up toward equal dignity and the limitless potential that people actually have.

00:44:54.980 The free enterprise system exists, and the reason we should fight for it is only because of that.

00:44:59.620 You know, it's not for us.

00:45:01.300 You know, it's not for Stu and Glenn and Arthur, because we're very lucky people.

00:45:05.740 We're prosperous people, and the truth is we could prosper under a system of socialism.

00:45:10.160 I don't want to.

00:45:11.100 It wouldn't be fair.

00:45:11.960 It wouldn't be right, but we could.

00:45:13.860 Who needs capitalism?

00:45:15.440 Who needs free enterprise?

00:45:16.480 The people who are still at the periphery of our society.

00:45:18.580 We've got to fight for them.

00:45:20.260 The next two billion people, they need us.

00:45:23.020 And what I talk about in this film is how you, you know, with proper regulation, obviously with morals, because you can't have markets without morals.

00:45:31.680 If you do, they'll be ruined.

00:45:33.080 They'll ruin everything.

00:45:33.760 And if you have these things, then you can be a force for goodness in the world and showing that, bringing people together, listening to everybody.

00:45:41.700 What a joy it was to make this picture.

00:45:43.800 So, Arthur, let me ask you.

00:45:45.460 Let me ask you this.

00:45:47.400 We are sitting in a really interesting time.

00:45:49.760 Time, as you know, that I was not for Donald Trump, to put it mildly, in the last election.

00:45:57.620 You were very vocal about that.

00:45:58.680 I have watched him, and I still have the same concerns that I've always had on many fronts.

00:46:06.500 On other fronts, he has done what he said he would do or more.

00:46:10.720 For instance, on Israel, it's been crazy.

00:46:13.020 He's also done things that I thought he would do and frighten me, like the trade barriers that we have.

00:46:20.080 When it comes to this next election, if I am faced with one of these social Democrats or one of these people that are even dancing around the edges of saying, you know, yeah, well, we got to get rid of the free market system.

00:46:36.540 You know, eventually, right?

00:46:38.680 I mean, I know who I'm going to vote for.

00:46:41.740 How do we square this with with what we're facing?

00:46:48.700 Because what we're facing is the end of the West and America as we know it.

00:46:54.400 Yeah.

00:46:54.640 You know, we've had threatened threats from socialism forever in this country.

00:46:58.040 It always comes back.

00:46:59.480 Not like this one.

00:47:00.520 I mean, maybe in the 1930s.

00:47:03.000 Yeah.

00:47:03.220 In the 1930s.

00:47:04.020 But after every financial crisis, it comes back.

00:47:06.100 And so if you see in the after the 1890s, there were two financial crises that were just hardcore in 1892 and 1896.

00:47:12.700 There's a silver bus.

00:47:13.480 There's a railroad bus just as bad as what we saw in 2008.

00:47:16.380 Worse, as a matter of fact.

00:47:17.460 And you got William Jennings Bryan.

00:47:19.720 It was this left wing populist who also was anti-immigration, anti-trade and all the stuff that we don't like of populism, both right and left.

00:47:28.800 This always comes around.

00:47:30.280 And this is always our opportunity for those of us who believe in the promises of democratic capitalism to lift up the world.

00:47:35.760 You got to look at these times and you say, this is an opportunity.

00:47:38.700 Look, you're the quintessential entrepreneur, Glenn, not just in media, in a bunch of businesses, because you believe that when you look around, you say something's not right.

00:47:47.420 That's an opportunity to build something good and true.

00:47:50.000 So if we look at the idea economy today, we say all of these people, all these young people say that capitalism is a sham, that socialism is a better as a better system.

00:47:58.340 You've got people running for president.

00:47:59.900 You have leaders in Congress who are espousing democratic socialism.

00:48:03.500 That's our opportunity because that's when the conversation is right.

00:48:07.180 So I look at this and I say, man, I am so lucky to be alive right now.

00:48:10.420 I'm releasing a movie on major digital platforms that talks about how capitalism is a beautiful system for helping the poor.

00:48:19.460 It couldn't be better timed.

00:48:21.100 And all of us can do that.

00:48:22.660 You know, like Glenn Beck is an apostle for democratic capitalism.

00:48:25.420 And you're going to get a better, bigger audience listening to the fact that you believe in global brotherhood, not in global profit.

00:48:32.360 And that's the reason that you stand behind the free enterprise system.

00:48:35.140 It's a look, there will be bad things that will happen.

00:48:37.440 I got it, but there's going to be good things that happen too.

00:48:40.440 And let's focus on all the good things that we can make happen.

00:48:43.280 So how do we, how do we make the impact?

00:48:47.880 How do you have the conversations?

00:48:49.480 Because quite honestly, I feel when I go to Silicon Valley and I know what Silicon Valley is.

00:48:57.120 Okay.

00:48:57.880 There are a lot.

00:48:58.620 And you talk about, you're very sophisticated in the way you talk about technology.

00:49:01.220 So I, I go there and I feel in some ways that I am in a place that is more America than America because there are a group of young people who are like, Hey, I have an idea and they just do it and it changes the world.

00:49:20.340 It is truly free market.

00:49:24.460 And, and the ideas are so exciting and they're so big.

00:49:28.660 I mean, they're talking about changing the world.

00:49:31.040 It's, it's dynamic.

00:49:34.300 Where are those people on our side?

00:49:38.200 Where are the people we are good at articulating?

00:49:42.180 I mean, I, I kind of came to a place, Arthur, I, I, if I could do my whole career over again.

00:49:49.200 Yeah.

00:49:49.320 What would you do?

00:49:50.100 You, I would be, I would be like you.

00:49:53.320 I would start by playing the French horn and not making your own.

00:49:57.040 No.

00:49:57.820 Getting kicked out of college.

00:49:58.940 Is that the part you mean?

00:49:59.760 But I, I, you know, I was the what?

00:50:03.400 Third or fourth most admired man.

00:50:05.540 The year I went to Fox from CNN, you know, that stupid a people.

00:50:09.960 I was tied with the Pope and Nelson Mandela.

00:50:12.560 Okay.

00:50:12.960 That's crazy.

00:50:13.820 That's crazy.

00:50:14.860 I love America.

00:50:16.220 I don't know.

00:50:16.920 This is a commercial for America here.

00:50:18.360 Yeah.

00:50:18.740 Yeah.

00:50:19.020 Yeah.

00:50:19.200 Yeah.

00:50:19.860 So, uh, I'm sure I voted for you, by the way.

00:50:22.660 So, so when I went to, when I went to Fox saying the same thing, it all changed and I

00:50:28.960 became this political figure.

00:50:31.700 Politics is at the back end of the dog, uh, and not the front end.

00:50:37.460 And, uh, you are pigeonholed into something that is, is ugly and grotesque.

00:50:46.540 And I kind of came just recently to, to the feeling that we, you know, we all have, we

00:50:51.880 all have our own gifts and we all have our own positions and I've not liked mine.

00:50:57.280 Mine has been worn people.

00:50:59.980 And I hate that.

00:51:01.380 I grew up in an alcoholic family.

00:51:03.060 Right.

00:51:03.240 I don't like conflict.

00:51:04.460 I mean, look at me.

00:51:05.340 I mean, yesterday they were dragging me through the mud saying that I said that, you know,

00:51:09.080 Muslims attack Notre Dame, which is the exact opposite of what I said.

00:51:13.040 You know, I'm always in the center of conflict and I hate it, but my role is to warn people

00:51:20.820 on what's coming.

00:51:21.920 Right.

00:51:22.180 Your role is to help us out and say, here's the path forward.

00:51:27.420 So what is it that we say to our friends?

00:51:32.980 What is it that we have to change?

00:51:35.680 You know, point to the, the, the bright horizons and say, look at this person, look at what's

00:51:42.360 happening here.

00:51:42.920 Look what's happening here.

00:51:44.420 Where, where's our course?

00:51:46.320 Our course is self-improvement, the American religion that you are the master of yourself.

00:51:51.460 And that's what we're on the cusp of reviving.

00:51:54.280 And this happens a couple of times a century in the United States, and it hasn't happened

00:51:57.760 for a while.

00:51:58.280 We're really, really ripe for it.

00:51:59.480 And look, you and I are in the same business because you are a self-improvement guy.

00:52:04.380 You are a man of the revolution of the individual heart after, you know, the end of the 19th

00:52:09.900 century when, you know, America was beaten down civil war, tons of poverty, financial crises,

00:52:16.200 polarization, populism, kind of like now, except worse in most ways, because we were a much

00:52:21.220 poorer country, that's when the self-improvement revolution really swept across this country.

00:52:25.500 And what that was, was entrepreneurship of each person, the startup of each life.

00:52:31.460 And that's what we really need to bring a culture back of.

00:52:34.000 So, you know, if you want people to stop, to want young people on campuses to stop talking

00:52:37.100 about socialism, you have to help them understand that they are the master of their feelings

00:52:40.660 and they are the master of their fate, which is empowering.

00:52:43.500 It's encouraging.

00:52:44.720 It's aspirational.

00:52:45.620 And here's the best part.

00:52:46.800 It's true.

00:52:48.020 It's why Jordan Peterson is so popular.

00:52:50.940 That's why Jordan Peterson is popular.

00:52:53.060 By the way, that you think that you're just Ezekiel, you know, you're a prophet.

00:52:58.160 It's like, you know, the end is near.

00:53:00.160 That's not true.

00:53:01.400 You know, you're an encouraging person.

00:53:03.700 You know, when I watch you and I realize, you know, I've been watching for years and years,

00:53:07.100 CNN, Fox, and since you've been on your own in this incredible entrepreneurial venture,

00:53:10.800 you're an aspirational person because you believe in the goodness of this country and you believe

00:53:15.500 that everybody listening to us, everybody who's on the other side of these mics, they're

00:53:20.920 true entrepreneurs with their own lives too.

00:53:22.760 The true enterprise of life in America is each person listening to us.

00:53:27.360 And when we can get back that culture, then we're off to the races and that's what I want

00:53:32.040 to start.

00:53:32.580 And I think we're, man, I think we're on the edge of it.

00:53:35.240 I've written this book called The Pursuit.

00:53:37.420 I mean, sorry, the movie's The Pursuit.

00:53:38.420 I wrote Love Your Enemies, which came out one month ago.

00:53:41.300 Love Your Enemies, Matthew 5, 44.

00:53:43.380 It's how you can be an entrepreneur by loving your enemies.

00:53:46.280 It went on the bestseller list.

00:53:48.100 You know, that's very encouraging to me because people are hungry for it.

00:53:52.100 And so the people are listening to us.

00:53:53.140 Okay, what are you going to do?

00:53:54.840 What's your opportunity?

00:53:55.780 Somebody's going to treat you with contempt, with nastiness.

00:53:58.460 Your opportunity is to treat people with love.

00:54:01.360 Okay, stand by.

00:54:02.120 We'll get into that in specifics here in just a second.

00:54:05.720 First, let me tell you about Goldline.

00:54:07.220 And Ronald Reagan said, freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.

00:54:13.200 We didn't pass it on to our children in their bloodstream.

00:54:16.480 And it has to be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

00:54:21.060 And this is our time.

00:54:22.820 This is our time.

00:54:23.660 We are going to choose.

00:54:25.520 And we're going to have to fight for our freedom.

00:54:27.360 Have you prepared to financially be stable?

00:54:31.780 I've talked to you about Gold for a very long time because we do, as Arthur was saying, we do go through these periods where, you know, it's extreme bust.

00:54:42.640 I think one of those periods is coming.

00:54:45.820 I mean, no, it is.

00:54:46.740 It always comes.

00:54:47.700 It always comes.

00:54:48.780 When it comes, somebody has to have something of value to restart.

00:54:54.800 Be that person.

00:54:56.620 Find out if gold or silver is right for you.

00:54:58.500 It's not right for everybody.

00:54:59.420 It sure is for my family.

00:55:01.160 I think it's right for you.

00:55:03.960 I don't buy it as an investment.

00:55:05.560 I buy it as an insurance policy against insanity.

00:55:09.940 Goldline.

00:55:10.580 1-866-GOLDLINE.

00:55:12.220 1-866-GOLDLINE or goldline.com.

00:55:14.860 10 seconds.

00:55:15.420 Station ID.

00:55:30.600 Here with Arthur Brooks, the movie is The Pursuit.

00:55:33.300 It's out everywhere on May 7th.

00:55:36.120 May 6th.

00:55:36.880 May 6th.

00:55:37.340 May 6th.

00:55:38.160 So, let me go to Love Your Enemies for a second.

00:55:39.980 Yeah.

00:55:40.120 And this is something I think the audience struggles with.

00:55:41.680 I sometimes struggle.

00:55:42.440 I think everybody does.

00:55:43.100 That's the name of the new book, but it's basically the philosophy of life.

00:55:46.240 Yeah.

00:55:46.540 All right.

00:55:46.800 Yeah.

00:55:47.260 You make a point in the movie and the book of saying, don't treat your opponents as evil.

00:55:53.160 Right.

00:55:53.400 Right.

00:55:53.600 Which I think we all kind of understand.

00:55:57.100 However, there is a line there, right?

00:55:59.180 I think we all recognize if Adam Hitler were running for president right now, that might

00:56:03.000 not be a productive conversation.

00:56:06.060 And, you know, you talk so eloquently about lifting 2 billion people out of poverty, but

00:56:11.200 we have, you know, several candidates that are talking about trying to rip down many parts

00:56:16.300 of what has made that occur globally.

00:56:19.100 And when you're talking about people and being able to lift them out of poverty, I mean, how

00:56:24.160 do you find the line?

00:56:25.300 Because there is a line.

00:56:26.280 And, you know, if we're talking about billions of people being able to live that otherwise

00:56:30.380 might not have, I mean, how far is a Bernie Sanders from that line?

00:56:35.500 I mean, he may be a good person.

00:56:37.800 I mean, I think a lot of times he plays with the truth a little bit too much for that particular

00:56:41.500 description at times.

00:56:43.120 Yeah.

00:56:43.300 But I mean...

00:56:43.820 Weird thing for a presidential candidate.

00:56:44.980 Yeah, I know.

00:56:45.400 I know.

00:56:45.660 It's totally unique to him.

00:56:47.500 But I mean, there is that line.

00:56:48.820 And I feel like a lot of people in the audience who want to be able to have productive conversations

00:56:52.780 with people they don't agree with, see people like Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez and people

00:56:57.840 that are out there advocating for things that will actually really hurt people.

00:57:01.780 And can we not stand up and say that that's wrong?

00:57:04.840 Right.

00:57:05.160 So let's get a couple of things clear.

00:57:08.240 I completely disagree with almost everything that Bernie Sanders talks about, but he's

00:57:13.200 not Stalin.

00:57:15.220 We're so far away from these.

00:57:16.960 I mean, we should be incredibly grateful in this country.

00:57:20.080 You know, there's no knock in the night.

00:57:21.960 There's no jackbooted thug.

00:57:23.580 We disagree with each other.

00:57:24.840 And sometimes it gets ugly.

00:57:26.060 I mean, especially if you're on the front lines like you guys, it gets ugly every 20 seconds

00:57:29.900 on Twitter.

00:57:30.700 It's a big mess.

00:57:31.920 It's a it's a ghetto out there for it's a dangerous one at that for ideologically.

00:57:36.280 But, you know, when I talk to members of Congress and I get to talk to go on retreats with members

00:57:41.220 of Congress, and one of the things I'll often ask is how many of you guys are grateful we

00:57:45.420 don't live in a one party state?

00:57:47.060 It's every hand.

00:57:48.000 I say, you just told me you're grateful for the other party.

00:57:52.100 You know, the truth of the matter is if you want to have a competition of ideas, which

00:57:55.120 we must have because competition brings excellence in sports and in politics and in certainly

00:57:59.800 in economics and in the world of ideas, if you want to come, that's what Silicon Valley

00:58:03.740 is getting right is a competition of ideas.

00:58:05.340 If we want a competition of ideas ideologically, we need the other side competitively.

00:58:10.260 I don't want Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's ideology for this country.

00:58:15.420 But I have to recognize that these are not people that that are of the same magnitude.

00:58:21.420 These are not evil people.

00:58:23.060 These are simply people with whom I disagree.

00:58:25.020 Now, who do I want to convince?

00:58:26.240 And here's where it gets really interesting, right?

00:58:28.500 I want to convince the persuadables.

00:58:30.400 I want to convince all those people out there.

00:58:32.400 They're kind of like, yeah, give me your best shot.

00:58:34.340 How am I going to convince them by saying that Bernie Sanders is evil?

00:58:37.180 That saying that Bernie Sanders is deviant by saying hateful, disrespectful things about

00:58:41.560 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

00:58:42.980 No, no, no, no, no.

00:58:44.260 I'm not going to get any converts.

00:58:45.600 Look, nobody is persuading anybody in America today.

00:58:49.640 My job is to persuade and be persuadable to live in an environment where I can make my best

00:58:55.540 arguments and have the joy of being humble when somebody makes a good argument of taking

00:58:59.400 it.

00:58:59.700 And I can't do that if I say Bernie Sanders is a Stalinist.

00:59:02.580 Can't happen.

00:59:03.580 So I just did an interview with Peter Boghossian.

00:59:08.200 He's the guy who, along with two other scientists, scholars, professors, did the white papers that,

00:59:17.380 you know, said, you know, male, uh, rape culture in dog parks.

00:59:22.520 Yeah.

00:59:23.080 Fake paper.

00:59:23.860 The fake papers.

00:59:24.560 Okay.

00:59:25.220 Really.

00:59:25.700 They're lefties.

00:59:26.560 They're real lefties.

00:59:27.480 And I said, alarmed about what's going on in academic, very alarm research.

00:59:31.320 Right.

00:59:31.520 Uh, and so I sat down with them and, and, you know, we were open, uh, about it.

00:59:36.520 And they said, you know, a lot of people on our side do not want to sit in with you.

00:59:39.860 And, uh, but they, they did.

00:59:42.600 And we talked about the difference being, you talk to people who are honest brokers,

00:59:48.560 you talk to people and, and, and we were, we, we started their atheists.

00:59:53.100 Both of them were atheists and, uh, I'm clearly not.

00:59:57.020 And I said, let's talk about first cause.

01:00:00.020 Are you an atheist or are you an agnostic?

01:00:02.780 Because an atheist knows.

01:00:04.660 I just know.

01:00:06.040 Okay.

01:00:06.320 An agnostic said, I don't think so, but you know, and really that's where we all should

01:00:13.200 be in the end.

01:00:14.580 You know, what we got to was if I could provide evidence that there is a God scientific evidence,

01:00:22.060 there is a God.

01:00:22.760 Would you change?

01:00:24.380 Yes.

01:00:25.160 Was the answer.

01:00:26.900 That's the difference.

01:00:28.320 If you could scientifically prove, and I don't think it'll ever be scientifically proven either

01:00:32.400 way, but if you could scientifically prove something, will you change your opinion?

01:00:37.660 The answer should be yes.

01:00:39.780 But too many of us are, are not willing to change our opinion.

01:00:45.340 Right.

01:00:45.620 You know, we're locked down.

01:00:46.920 And part of the reason is because it's become an article of faith in politics that if you

01:00:50.900 show any weakness, that means you lose.

01:00:53.880 That's not right for most Americans.

01:00:55.860 And the interesting thing is, you know, what we mentioned before, every single person listening

01:00:59.040 to us right now loves somebody with whom they disagree politically.

01:01:02.260 If you love somebody with whom you disagree politically, you should simply reject it when

01:01:06.720 somebody you don't know on television or in politics or on campus says that that person's

01:01:11.400 an idiot.

01:01:11.780 It's not right to say that your sister-in-law's an idiot.

01:01:13.800 She's not an idiot.

01:01:14.860 She thinks about things differently than you do.

01:01:16.580 This also, when you come to terms with the fact that it's not right for people to criticize

01:01:21.780 your loved ones or anybody to say that they're deviant because they disagree, that gives you

01:01:26.760 the intense pleasure of maybe being persuadable.

01:01:30.200 I think that we can change American culture this way, but it has to start with personal

01:01:34.180 revolution.

01:01:35.380 It has to start by saying, just because I think something doesn't make it right.

01:01:39.180 If I find evidence to the contrary, if I find evidence that something is actually better

01:01:43.440 for others, is better for my objectives, I'm going to look into it.

01:01:47.340 Look, you've changed your ideology over the years, Glenn.

01:01:49.240 I mean, you've changed the way you think.

01:01:50.320 I've seen the evolution as you as a public figure.

01:01:52.800 Why?

01:01:53.240 Because the pleasure that comes from humility is indescribable.

01:01:57.400 It is.

01:01:57.880 Being persuasive kind of scratches your pride.

01:02:00.800 Yeah.

01:02:02.160 Arthur, thank you so much.

01:02:03.620 Thank you, Glenn.

01:02:04.220 Thank you, Steve.

01:02:04.660 I appreciate it.

01:02:04.920 What a joy to be with you.

01:02:06.040 Thank you.

01:02:06.460 Arthur Brooks, producer of the movie that's coming out May 1st, The Pursuit, also best-selling

01:02:12.600 author of Love Your Enemies, available right now.

01:02:18.240 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

01:02:22.280 You know, I'm one of these guys that downs the energy drinks approximately 25, 30 times

01:02:27.420 a day.

01:02:27.980 It's healthy.

01:02:28.500 Don't worry about it.

01:02:29.500 And I actually had this big habit with the energy drinks for a long time, and it was because

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01:02:37.320 Wait a minor.

01:02:38.120 What?

01:02:38.560 I mean, that's my life.

01:02:39.660 Again?

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01:03:39.120 We sat down for a full podcast together.

01:03:42.180 You can find it at BlazeTV.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

01:03:47.320 So Arthur, I think, is a very aspirational guy, and I love him, and I love what he's

01:03:54.060 done with the American Air Prize Institute.

01:03:55.940 I love, love, love, love his new movie.

01:03:59.240 I think he'll make a big impact.

01:04:00.440 I think he'll make a huge impact at Harvard as well.

01:04:02.620 I think he is, well, let me put it this way.

01:04:07.300 I hope he's right that we're a million miles away from Stalin, but we are walking towards

01:04:14.540 Stalin, and some are running towards Stalin.

01:04:19.240 Yeah.

01:04:19.420 I mean, we know Stalin's evil.

01:04:21.300 We know that that philosophy is evil.

01:04:24.080 And nobody is talking about rounding anybody up.

01:04:26.480 No.

01:04:26.620 But we are talking about silencing people.

01:04:29.240 Again, if you don't want to get to a destination, it's best not to go down the road that leads

01:04:34.720 to it.

01:04:35.400 Yes.

01:04:35.520 So if you're only taking a short drive down the road of socialism, it's scary because,

01:04:42.020 I mean, the closer you get to those things, you're increasing government power, which

01:04:46.260 allows the government to overwhelm all of the positives.

01:04:49.380 It is difficult, and it's a tough line.

01:04:52.820 That's why I asked him that question.

01:04:54.120 It's a tough line to draw because there are times where, you know, like the great that

01:04:58.240 has come out of the free market, the people who oppose it and oftentimes oppose it, while

01:05:02.780 I believe willingly lying about it, I mean, it's hard.

01:05:07.460 And it might be the right thing to do, but it's a hard thing to do to not just see that

01:05:11.880 as people, you know, it's an activity that is against human achievement, human prosperity.

01:05:18.560 And many times it's completely dishonest.

01:05:22.120 It's completely dishonest.

01:05:24.540 Let me give you an example.

01:05:25.660 It was very, very hard for me to hold my temper yesterday after I saw what Newsweek and others

01:05:35.260 did, to my words on the program, the news and why it matters as Notre Dame was burning

01:05:43.780 down as it was burning down.

01:05:47.220 We were receiving tweets that said, Glenn, you predicted this because in 2015, I had said,

01:05:55.020 if you want to see places like Notre Dame, you got to go because you're going to go to

01:05:58.860 Paris and maybe in the next 15 years and that thing will be burnt to the ground.

01:06:02.840 It'll be gone.

01:06:03.460 Well, I was talking about a threat from Islamic terrorism at the time in 2015.

01:06:11.080 Since then, 2016, there was a threat.

01:06:15.200 Four people were arrested trying to destroy Notre Dame.

01:06:20.200 In that same year, ISIS came out and said that it was their number one target in Europe.

01:06:26.440 And then the next year, they arrested four people that had a car bomb headed towards Notre

01:06:32.600 Notre Dame.

01:06:33.960 So while this is happening on screen, we're getting emails from people.

01:06:40.080 People on my staff are coming in going, Glenn, this is exactly what you talked about.

01:06:44.520 And I said off the air.

01:06:45.960 No, no, no.

01:06:46.620 We don't know.

01:06:48.160 You also said that on the air, by the way.

01:06:49.480 Right.

01:06:49.760 I know.

01:06:50.100 But I said it off the air first.

01:06:51.480 Then I get on the air.

01:06:52.240 Now, I want you to listen carefully.

01:06:53.920 And Stu, do me a favor.

01:06:55.380 Write down the key things that you hear me say, because I'm going to show you how the

01:07:01.000 media took it and what the media, Washington Post, everybody else, what they did to this,

01:07:07.380 I think, very logical, reasonable conversation.

01:07:11.480 Listen.

01:07:11.620 President Macron has just come out and said, it looks like we may not be able to save it.

01:07:17.940 Just watch the video here, just a little bit of this.

01:07:23.000 That's the spire.

01:07:24.120 This is their 9-11.

01:07:25.880 Look at the spire fall.

01:07:27.280 That's the spire of Notre Dame.

01:07:30.600 Look at how hot that fire is.

01:07:32.960 Look at the flames, how high those flames are.

01:07:35.240 That is not close to going out at this point.

01:07:37.040 No.

01:07:37.280 Now, we don't know what caused it yet.

01:07:41.320 We know that there was a mass renovation that was going on.

01:07:47.620 But that is pretty remarkable.

01:07:51.080 I mean, this is a world landmark and probably next to the Eiffel Tower, the most iconic building

01:08:03.820 in all of France, and more important than the Eiffel Tower.

01:08:08.180 This is the site of the American Revolution, I mean, the French Revolution.

01:08:12.460 This is the site of Victor Hugo.

01:08:15.860 I mean, this is so wildly important to France as an image.

01:08:24.120 Also, like, really serious archives are held there.

01:08:27.940 I mean, they're going to lose all sorts of, you know, art and archives that you're never going to be able to recreate.

01:08:34.260 I mean, just the rose stained glass window is irreplaceable.

01:08:41.480 If this was arson, this is going to be bad.

01:08:50.440 If this was arson of any foreign kind of, any foreign entity, anybody with a grudge,

01:09:01.020 I think if, and this is a huge if, it might have just been started by a cigarette, we don't know.

01:09:09.040 But if this was started by Islamists, I don't think you'll find out about it.

01:09:15.720 Because I think it would set the entire country on fire.

01:09:19.200 They've had killings.

01:09:20.220 They've had mass shootings.

01:09:21.920 They've had people running people down in the streets.

01:09:24.840 The tension is very high.

01:09:26.860 Hey, you take away, this would be like us burning, what, our White House?

01:09:31.480 I mean, what is iconic like this?

01:09:35.720 World Trade Centers?

01:09:36.860 Yeah, like the World Trade Center.

01:09:38.500 This is their World Trade Center moment.

01:09:41.160 And if this was done by terrorists, I think that they will keep it quiet.

01:09:49.000 Because I just don't think Macron in France wants that internal fight.

01:09:57.320 If this was done by somebody who is disgruntled with the government, etc., like the yellow vests.

01:10:03.020 You know, they did say this weekend that the police can put bullets in their guns and they can shoot to kill the yellow vests.

01:10:09.820 They said that this weekend.

01:10:11.700 So maybe it's that.

01:10:13.420 I don't know.

01:10:13.960 But this is a really big deal.

01:10:15.760 The world has lost a major, major piece of history today.

01:10:22.840 Okay.

01:10:23.900 What did you take from that, Stu?

01:10:25.220 What did I say?

01:10:25.920 Can you sum that up?

01:10:26.660 Sure.

01:10:27.140 You said it was there, 9-11.

01:10:28.660 I mean, I think obviously iconic buildings falling was what you were talking about.

01:10:31.940 It's funny because the way the spire fell, what it reminded me of in that moment was the Saddam Hussein statue falling.

01:10:38.880 And at no point did I think there was an invading force that was trying to liberate Notre Dame.

01:10:44.440 Right.

01:10:44.820 Like, that's just not what I thought.

01:10:46.800 So, I mean, I thought with the smoke and the way it collapsed and not just the way it collapsed.

01:10:52.420 Being a huge, iconic building.

01:10:54.060 Yeah.

01:10:54.660 This is, you know, our image of financial impenetrable stability was taken down because it's Wall Street.

01:11:07.120 It's New York.

01:11:08.120 It's these gigantic, immovable towers.

01:11:12.460 Okay.

01:11:13.060 It didn't have the importance.

01:11:14.820 Those were buildings.

01:11:15.920 It didn't have the importance of Notre Dame.

01:11:18.240 But it had the, in some ways, Wall Street has the soul of the capitalist nation.

01:11:24.120 Yeah.

01:11:24.440 And that's why they targeted it.

01:11:25.320 That's why they targeted it.

01:11:26.400 So, the same thing, when I'm saying this, this, I keep saying it's the heart of France, you know, it's an iconic building, it's more important than the Eiffel Tower, to the French.

01:11:37.460 That strikes to their soul of who they are.

01:11:42.140 You don't just wipe that off the map.

01:11:44.200 And so, what I was saying with 9-11, it's their 9-11.

01:11:48.100 They have been just sucker punched in the gut.

01:11:52.940 Now, remember, our 9-11, we didn't know who did it.

01:11:57.580 Nope, not on 9-11.

01:11:58.680 We had no idea.

01:11:59.840 We had absolutely no idea who did this to us.

01:12:04.320 On 9-11, we were freaked out.

01:12:06.500 On 9-12, which was there yesterday, okay, what did they do?

01:12:11.600 They started raising money.

01:12:12.760 They started coming together.

01:12:14.060 France has never been more united.

01:12:16.480 That's their 9-12.

01:12:19.700 Now, if they find out that somebody did this, they will respond as we did.

01:12:25.280 But it looks like, and I said, you know, it's amazing.

01:12:28.580 Did you catch?

01:12:29.860 If it's arson, it's bad.

01:12:32.780 If it's arson from a foreign entity, it's worse.

01:12:38.140 If it's arson from terror, even worse.

01:12:43.080 We know it could be, they say now it could be a cigarette.

01:12:46.500 So if it's a cigarette, but a huge if is if it's Islamic terrorists, you won't hear about it.

01:12:55.140 Yeah.

01:12:55.600 I mean, that's all the stuff that I wrote down, basically.

01:12:57.880 I mean, the fact that the first thing that you mentioned as a possible cause was a mass renovation, period.

01:13:02.560 That was the first thing you talked about.

01:13:04.100 Number one.

01:13:05.120 And that was about where we were on the reporting.

01:13:06.700 We didn't know what the case was at that point.

01:13:10.120 And in addition to that, the one thing that was suggested as a possibility was the mass renovation.

01:13:16.860 Now, of course, if you had come out, let's just say you had come out and said, hey, guys, you know what happened?

01:13:21.460 What happened was, I believe this was Islamists.

01:13:24.680 This is they did this.

01:13:25.880 This is this is them.

01:13:27.260 You would have been wrong.

01:13:29.540 OK, in this particular case.

01:13:31.500 However, as you point out, they have done this.

01:13:35.340 They have attacked this exact building multiple times in the past couple of years.

01:13:39.660 They said it was the number one target of ISIS in Europe.

01:13:42.620 So it would not have been insane to think that was true, though you didn't think of it as the number one possibility.

01:13:48.260 You said it was a mass renovation was the number one possibility.

01:13:50.500 You said it could have been a cigarette.

01:13:51.700 You could have said it could have been the yellow vests, which is, you know, again,

01:13:56.020 none of that ever gets mentioned in any of the tweets about it.

01:13:59.580 No, of course not.

01:14:00.120 Because there's a line there.

01:14:01.420 There's there's a line about when you're doing a show like this and you're, you know,

01:14:04.040 we're talking off the top of our heads for four hours a day.

01:14:06.320 There's there's two lines.

01:14:07.420 There's one where you could actually say something wrong.

01:14:10.140 You can legitimately say something that you screwed up and you're going to get a beating for it.

01:14:13.980 And you understand that it's happened with you.

01:14:15.880 You said things where you're like, I wish I said that another way.

01:14:18.480 And you take the beating and you're like, this is what I meant.

01:14:20.580 But, you know, you know, you're on the wrong side of it or you can understand how I don't take a word of that back.

01:14:24.460 I think all of that was very clear.

01:14:27.180 The other standard, which is the standard applied on social media and by, you know,

01:14:30.500 left wing organizations that are whose sad lives are filled with listening to your programs over and over again

01:14:36.640 to try to find something they can use against you is is different.

01:14:40.080 It's it's can did we say something that someone can act as if they believe was bad?

01:14:47.260 Can they act as if they believe what you meant was terrible?

01:14:51.800 Like I know, you know, doing the show with you, you said you talked about I think if it's Islamic extremists,

01:15:00.220 you might not even find out about it because now, why did I say that?

01:15:03.340 Right. Exactly.

01:15:04.000 The reason you said that and you explained it, of course, was that you there's so much internal strife there right now

01:15:09.760 that if something came out about that, it could cause a real inflammation of the whole society.

01:15:14.800 A lot of it against Muslims, by the way.

01:15:16.840 Right. And did I attach a good thing or a bad thing to that?

01:15:21.020 How do you not finding out?

01:15:22.140 Did I say that was good that you wouldn't find out or bad that you would find out that you wouldn't find out?

01:15:26.380 You were kind of saying it was good.

01:15:27.500 Yeah.

01:15:28.080 I was saying it will cause massive problems.

01:15:32.500 Right.

01:15:32.960 And I don't think anybody in France wants that.

01:15:35.220 And I don't want that.

01:15:36.220 That could be that could be the catalyst that sets it on fire.

01:15:40.440 So before Newsweek and everybody, I was trending nationally yesterday.

01:15:45.560 OK, with lies, absolute lies.

01:15:50.000 Before that, I had Jason on our chief researcher who I had put up and said, stay up all night.

01:15:56.620 I want you to find out everything you can.

01:15:58.720 Look for the conspiracy theory so we can debunk them right away.

01:16:02.640 Find out what you can.

01:16:04.440 Talk about it on the air.

01:16:05.620 We started the show with that.

01:16:07.740 Then yesterday I said, this may be a blessing because it takes that iconic thing away, which would absolutely start a religious war.

01:16:19.880 It would absolutely start it if this was ISIS.

01:16:23.720 And it takes that off of the plate so it can't be used.

01:16:29.100 I think how how how.

01:16:31.820 Well, instead, what they say is when you say, well, you might not find out about it.

01:16:35.620 What they again, I don't they don't believe this, but what they're trying to make their I was going to say Arthur Brooks is in my head.

01:16:42.540 So I'm not going to say dumb people who visit their websites, but the people who visit their websites, what they're trying to make them believe is that what you're saying is if you hear it's construction, they're lying.

01:16:51.680 Which is not at all what you were saying.

01:16:54.260 No, you did not say that at all.

01:16:56.100 You never said that publicly.

01:16:57.280 You never said that privately.

01:16:58.640 That is not what you were saying.

01:17:00.140 No, you were saying something completely different, which you just explained.

01:17:03.160 But again, the the goal of these organizations is not to find an example of you saying something wrong.

01:17:11.420 It's something that they is something that they can plausibly act like they believe was wrong.

01:17:16.720 They can go on.

01:17:18.040 They can say they do this all the time.

01:17:20.220 You take a statement and you act as if, well, that is their entire viewpoint on this.

01:17:25.620 And I can make them look dumb if I tweet this and act like I don't think they know anything else about the topic.

01:17:29.300 Right. That's a terrible instinct that I think gets drawn out of social media and click farms and click bait farms.

01:17:35.160 But I mean, it is these organizations are out there specifically to do this.

01:17:38.460 And, you know, as Arthur pointed out, some of that is a blessing.

01:17:41.980 Like, you know, we could easily just be ignored for every everything that we say.

01:17:45.720 The fact that these people are up all night obsessing over you and listening to every word that you say.

01:17:50.560 So is, you know, generally speaking, at least there are people care, which is here's I guess you're making an impact.

01:17:56.780 Here's the thing. I had an employee who is a good friend and I love him and he's worked here now for six months and he is just great.

01:18:05.220 He came to me yesterday and said, hey, I have to talk to you about this.

01:18:09.180 I really strongly disagree because he read it in the Hill and Politico and he believed them over the guy who he I passed his desk twice yesterday.

01:18:18.540 Well, it wasn't over you. He had not heard your side of it, but he, you know, I assume they were reporting it.

01:18:23.300 He just assumed they were reporting it. So instead of coming to me and saying, Glenn, this doesn't sound like you.

01:18:29.520 Did you really say this? Instead, he believed the media. He works here.

01:18:35.660 That's the problem. If if you are if you were in a place to where you'll believe the media,

01:18:42.540 who we all are supposedly to distrust, if you believe them over people who, you know, there's a problem.

01:18:50.740 How does how does anyone stand a chance? How does anyone stand a chance?

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01:19:58.060 I'm I'm really excited about tonight's TV show at five o'clock.

01:20:01.320 Only on Blaze TV. First ever appearance of the one, the only, the legendary Tim Tebow tonight on the Glenn Beck program.

01:20:11.320 So this is going to be a this is a great episode.

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01:20:35.180 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:20:38.440 All right.

01:20:39.560 We haven't done this in a while, but I have so many stories that are piling up that we just have to get to that.

01:20:46.080 I think we're going to do.

01:20:47.100 Choose your news.

01:20:48.040 I'll give three headlines and Stu will be able to choose which headline we go to, which story we go to.

01:20:55.600 Choose your news.

01:20:56.460 There are three tremendous stories.

01:20:59.680 One, his parents destroyed his porn collection.

01:21:04.300 So he got upset and has sued.

01:21:07.900 Wait to hear this story.

01:21:09.740 Dog owners are much happier than cat owners.

01:21:12.780 Absolutely true.

01:21:15.780 And Trump issues second veto of his presidency.

01:21:20.380 Choose your news.

01:21:21.640 We'll have Stu choose the news in one minute.

01:21:28.940 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:21:31.820 I want to talk to you a little bit about filter by.

01:21:34.200 Great thing working with Stu.

01:21:35.600 He's as lazy as I am.

01:21:36.780 Absolutely.

01:21:37.340 We are, I believe, the laziest duo in America.

01:21:41.280 We try to be.

01:21:41.900 We try to leave up to those high expectations.

01:21:44.020 I mean, when you really think about our job, think about it.

01:21:48.100 Who's the dumb one, huh?

01:21:49.660 Really?

01:21:50.200 You or us?

01:21:52.420 We're the ones that just drive into work.

01:21:54.360 We sit in a chair and then we just talk.

01:21:57.140 I mean, is that the laziest thing you can do?

01:22:00.460 I mean, I would like to make it easier.

01:22:02.480 I mean, it's a three-hour show.

01:22:03.720 Can we get it down to 15 minutes?

01:22:05.120 I'd like to get it down to about a minute and a half.

01:22:06.820 Okay.

01:22:07.300 And I think it would be a great minute and a half.

01:22:09.220 Oh, we would smoke.

01:22:10.340 We would smoke.

01:22:11.340 Oh, it would be so good.

01:22:12.720 So good.

01:22:13.540 Sometimes we'll give you three minutes.

01:22:14.900 But anyway, we're lazy and we're kind of proud of that.

01:22:18.300 And if you're lazy too, you know, you can go ahead and run to Home Depot if you want

01:22:22.200 on your Saturday.

01:22:23.200 Me?

01:22:23.580 I'd rather sleep in than go,

01:22:24.940 You got to run to Home Depot if you want to save the filter and then you get.

01:22:30.320 Oh, please.

01:22:32.040 It's my day to sleep in.

01:22:34.120 Yeah.

01:22:34.480 Send the thing to my house.

01:22:35.740 If you want me to put in an air filter, send it to my house.

01:22:39.760 That is, I would say, a requirement.

01:22:41.580 And by the way, I'm too lazy to order it.

01:22:43.760 Uh, so, uh, as well.

01:22:47.160 Oh, Andrew Heaton.

01:22:49.480 Come on over.

01:22:50.000 Sit here.

01:22:50.800 Man of shame.

01:22:53.180 Uh, all right.

01:22:55.120 So anyway, filter by, they'll deliver it to your house.

01:22:58.020 They'll deliver it to your house.

01:22:59.480 That's the best thing.

01:23:00.260 And you save money.

01:23:01.620 Never go to Home Depot.

01:23:02.600 Sleep in on Saturdays.

01:23:04.060 Embrace your laziness.

01:23:05.700 Filter, B-U-Y dot com.

01:23:07.620 Change the filter when you're supposed to with the right filter without doing any of the work.

01:23:11.780 Filter by dot com.

01:23:12.880 That's filter, B-U-Y dot com.

01:23:24.860 I was going to do Choose Your News, but, uh, Andrew Heaton just walked in, uh, the host of the podcast.

01:23:30.180 Yes, something's off with Andrew Heaton, and something is very off with Andrew Heaton.

01:23:33.240 I don't know how much longer his show is going to last.

01:23:34.820 Maybe, maybe today might be the last episode.

01:23:37.380 Not sure.

01:23:38.600 Looking forward to having Arthur Brooks on then.

01:23:41.340 How you doing?

01:23:42.140 Good.

01:23:42.400 How are you?

01:23:42.740 Good morning.

01:23:43.240 Oh, yeah.

01:23:43.640 I'm doing good.

01:23:44.300 You brought in, um.

01:23:46.060 I brought in donuts.

01:23:46.880 I, I had, I had something of an awkward day yesterday.

01:23:50.120 Yeah.

01:23:50.460 And thought.

01:23:50.760 You're very sweaty right now, too.

01:23:52.340 I'm very sweaty right now.

01:23:53.700 Yeah.

01:23:53.880 That, well, that might just be the, the amount of, uh, yeah, I'm just, I'm sweaty.

01:23:56.940 That's a lot of layers.

01:23:58.080 I am wearing a lot of layers, though.

01:23:59.140 Yeah.

01:23:59.480 Yeah.

01:23:59.660 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:00.080 Yeah, it's 65 degrees in here.

01:24:01.520 But anyway, go ahead.

01:24:02.720 Yeah, well, you know, yesterday we did the, the panel show, The News and Why It Matters.

01:24:06.180 And, uh, I had, uh, kind of jumped to some conclusions, uh, on, uh, some of your positions,

01:24:12.500 Glenn.

01:24:12.740 Yeah.

01:24:13.280 And, um, fortunately brought it up before the show, before I jumped into my monologue.

01:24:19.960 Right.

01:24:20.820 Give me your monologue.

01:24:21.700 Give me the monologue you were going to do.

01:24:23.020 I won't, I won't do that.

01:24:25.400 Why not?

01:24:26.440 Well, look, you know that I am not angry with you.

01:24:29.440 You know that this is all, you know, this is showbiz joking here.

01:24:33.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:24:33.320 But the donuts were a good move.

01:24:34.700 That being said.

01:24:35.000 It was a very good move.

01:24:35.740 Thank you.

01:24:36.020 Well, so, so to, to, um, to fill out what happened, um, the, uh, I had read a headline

01:24:42.540 that said that you were implying that Islamists burned down Notre Dame and that, uh, the French

01:24:47.200 government was, was suppressing that information and that that was their 9-11 and it was sort

01:24:52.240 of a flashpoint between East and West.

01:24:53.900 And I was going to come in and be like, you know, this is irresponsible and it's conspiracy

01:24:58.020 theorizing and it's, uh, demonizing Muslims.

01:25:00.800 And what did you imagine I would have said?

01:25:04.580 Uh, I don't know.

01:25:05.660 I wasn't really sure.

01:25:06.840 Yeah.

01:25:07.180 I, you know why?

01:25:08.420 Because doesn't that seem a little out of character for me?

01:25:12.560 It does.

01:25:13.080 It does.

01:25:14.000 It does.

01:25:14.920 It does.

01:25:15.240 It does.

01:25:15.660 I think, you know what, what I could have done is I could have gone, Hey Glenn, I read

01:25:20.080 this interesting headline.

01:25:21.280 What's your take on this?

01:25:22.400 Right.

01:25:22.840 And avoided a lot of, a lot of that, a lot of that.

01:25:26.360 So why, and I'm not talking about you because I think this happens all the time, all the time.

01:25:32.720 If you read it, it is so.

01:25:35.580 So what was it that made you go, this doesn't make any sense.

01:25:41.700 That's not the Glenn I know.

01:25:44.980 I'm going to go on the air and tear him apart.

01:25:48.880 What, what was it?

01:25:50.220 What, why did that happen?

01:25:52.400 I'm seriously looking for an answer because I think this happens to a lot of people.

01:25:56.340 Um, you know, part of it is if, if I'd gone to like right wing watch.com slash Glenn slash

01:26:04.700 whatever, then I would have dismissed it.

01:26:06.680 Uh, but the story I was looking at, it was a headline that I saw from the Hill.

01:26:10.180 I did read the paper or they read the story.

01:26:11.960 And I, I just kind of, I thought the Hill liked that they would have, you know, done

01:26:15.940 a little bit more.

01:26:16.920 They would have, would have packed it properly.

01:26:18.740 They would have unpacked it properly.

01:26:20.200 Well, cause I mean, it wasn't just the Hill.

01:26:21.680 It was lots of different, cause you have this first organization that comes out and lies

01:26:26.040 about what you said.

01:26:27.660 And then dozens of other publications start reporting on the initial report without doing

01:26:32.820 any homework.

01:26:33.440 I mean, like, you know, it's one thing it's, it's hard.

01:26:35.460 So you get a source in a news story, you got to track them down.

01:26:38.700 Maybe their, their house just burned down.

01:26:40.300 You got to find them.

01:26:41.060 You got to find out where they are.

01:26:42.160 You got to check all these different things.

01:26:44.200 Glenn does a national radio and television show every day.

01:26:47.280 So all the things that he says are always available, right?

01:26:50.020 It's relatively easy for a reporter reporting on a particular story to go do this.

01:26:53.820 And reporters know how to contact my people.

01:26:56.680 That's strange.

01:26:57.540 Yeah.

01:26:57.800 That's strange.

01:26:58.300 It's not like some, I don't know.

01:27:00.480 Do we have a Ouija board?

01:27:01.700 How can we possibly get a statement from Glenn's, Glenn or Glenn's people?

01:27:06.200 No one reaches out.

01:27:07.500 No one reaches out.

01:27:08.660 If you're going to, and, and, and I, you know, we've done enough shows with Andrew and

01:27:12.040 I know he would have not come on and trashed you over this.

01:27:15.400 He would have wanted to hear what your explanation was over it.

01:27:18.880 But I mean, if you're a publication going out there and trashing Glenn over this, you

01:27:23.180 have a absolute responsibility to make sure you understand what he said correctly.

01:27:28.100 You've got to take it.

01:27:28.980 Or here's an idea.

01:27:30.020 Correct it.

01:27:30.760 Anybody seen a correction?

01:27:32.020 No, I'm not seeing, not seen a correction.

01:27:34.900 And that's the thing.

01:27:35.500 Like, you're right.

01:27:35.900 Like right wing watch dot death of Beck dot net is not going to ever correct it.

01:27:41.020 But there are publications out there that should at least, they should protect whatever

01:27:46.740 credibility they have to not just speak to a hard left wing audience, right?

01:27:51.260 And this is why there is no credibility.

01:27:53.960 It's hard.

01:27:54.500 I mean, it's hard when, you know, we'll come on and we'll say, sometimes there'll be something

01:27:57.320 that the right is getting wrong, right?

01:27:59.720 And we'll come on the air and say, look, you know, we've looked at this and here's what

01:28:03.180 we believe is right.

01:28:03.960 I think the conservative side of this is actually made a mistake here.

01:28:07.280 Here's source ABC on this.

01:28:08.900 And they'll just hear the names, you know, it's the New York Times, it's the Hill, it's

01:28:12.760 whatever it is.

01:28:13.840 And so they've, a lot of these places have burned their credibility with the right so

01:28:17.300 consistently that they won't even listen when they actually have facts correct.

01:28:22.440 You know, it's just like, oh, well, that's the New York Times.

01:28:24.060 Of course, that's what they're saying.

01:28:25.040 Well, you know, look, the New York Times makes lots of mistakes.

01:28:27.080 And in their op ed section, they're completely insane.

01:28:29.900 But they also, I mean, a lot of the information that we bring to you about, you know, Islamic extremism

01:28:35.180 over the years has been because of reporting from the New York Times.

01:28:38.220 Yeah.

01:28:38.460 I mean, they've done a lot of good things.

01:28:39.480 You have to judge story to story, writer by writer.

01:28:45.080 And a way to summarize this is maybe do your own homework.

01:28:47.160 Facts.

01:28:47.640 Yes.

01:28:48.060 Do your own homework.

01:28:48.340 That's why you always plead with people on this.

01:28:50.160 So why the donuts today?

01:28:52.080 I just wanted to kind of bring them in and, you know, kick off a new Wednesday.

01:28:58.180 A little bit of sugar.

01:29:00.180 Right, right.

01:29:01.080 Now, it's interesting.

01:29:01.820 You didn't pick carrots for Glenn.

01:29:03.440 I noticed you picked baked goods and glazed sugar.

01:29:06.660 What was the decision-making process there?

01:29:08.260 Well, as you know, I'm secretly trying to murder Glenn.

01:29:10.840 Okay.

01:29:12.320 And I thought this will just be a way to slowly do it.

01:29:15.040 All right.

01:29:15.500 Well, so we got that going for us.

01:29:17.600 How's the show going?

01:29:18.740 Good.

01:29:19.160 I'm really enjoying it.

01:29:19.980 Really?

01:29:20.240 It's good.

01:29:20.620 We've got Arthur Brooks on today, which I'm really excited about.

01:29:22.820 Yeah.

01:29:23.320 Or actually, I'm sorry.

01:29:23.980 Arthur Brooks is going to be on tomorrow.

01:29:25.140 We've got Deanna Easley on today.

01:29:27.480 Who's Deanna Easley?

01:29:28.240 So she's here in Dallas, and we're going to talk about welfare, and I have a chat on that.

01:29:34.980 Tomorrow, we're going to talk about Arthur Brooks' book, And Capitalism, which I'm excited about

01:29:39.980 because the main thing on the show that I do is a temperamental thing of good and intelligent

01:29:45.260 people can disagree on matters of substance.

01:29:47.020 And I feel like Arthur Brooks has exonified that in his book.

01:29:50.460 Yeah.

01:29:50.700 So I'm excited to have him on.

01:29:52.280 The show this week is brought to you by Meat Bullets.

01:29:55.040 Meat Bullets?

01:29:55.700 Yeah, yeah.

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01:29:57.620 Really?

01:29:58.460 It's high-velocity meat that you can use as a weapon.

01:30:02.140 And if you need to deliver meat, you're hurting people with this meat?

01:30:05.100 I mean, I wouldn't advise you to do it, but if you were going to, yes.

01:30:08.480 But if you shot it right into somebody's...

01:30:11.760 Don't do that.

01:30:12.980 Oh, yeah.

01:30:13.640 Well, let's say that they're anemic or something like that, and they really need protein.

01:30:19.300 I mean, if you shot them in the thigh, I think in the state of Texas, you're probably

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01:30:23.320 But I would be very careful about doing it in general.

01:30:25.700 So is it delivering, you know, nutrition from a distance?

01:30:30.280 Is that the basic concept of meat bullets?

01:30:32.460 I don't understand what's not clear about this, guys.

01:30:35.040 It's not a weapon of war.

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01:30:42.500 All right, good.

01:30:43.200 All right.

01:30:43.640 Thank you very much.

01:30:44.440 There you go.

01:30:46.280 That's something's off with Andrew Heaton.

01:30:50.120 Why did we name it that?

01:30:51.080 I don't...

01:30:51.540 I have no idea.

01:30:53.120 No idea.

01:30:53.720 Coming up on the podcast today, you can find him wherever podcasts are found.

01:30:58.760 Thanks, Andrew.

01:30:59.720 Get out.

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01:31:02.700 I can get one of those donuts.

01:31:03.900 Yeah, here.

01:31:04.320 They look really freaking good.

01:31:05.400 They do.

01:31:05.900 Are those Krispy Kremes?

01:31:07.040 The Krispy Kremes.

01:31:08.340 But they're not...

01:31:08.840 No, they're not Krispy Kremes.

01:31:09.800 They look like it.

01:31:10.520 No, they're even better.

01:31:11.460 They're even better.

01:31:12.080 No, they're even better.

01:31:12.940 He went to the generic donut store, didn't he?

01:31:15.000 Generic donut store.

01:31:16.060 That's all right.

01:31:16.680 They're donuts.

01:31:17.080 All right.

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01:31:22.700 I mean, he didn't need to get a whole dozen.

01:31:24.980 The other thing, too, is he didn't do anything to me.

01:31:26.980 So I'm still getting donuts out of it.

01:31:30.040 The guy who's advertising for meat bullets?

01:31:32.880 Be careful what you eat.

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01:33:16.860 His parents destroyed his porn collection.

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01:33:22.860 Headline number two, dog owners much happier than cat owners.

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01:33:34.760 Choose your news, Stu.

01:33:36.980 Well, I mean, we're just speaking of Andrew's podcast.

01:33:40.120 You can be certain that Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher is going to cover in depth the porn story.

01:33:47.120 The porn story is really good, though.

01:33:49.440 It is really good.

01:33:50.600 All right, and then you have the veto.

01:33:53.240 Yeah, which is important.

01:33:56.060 Or the dog owners.

01:33:56.400 That's really important.

01:33:57.400 I mean, I am interested in the legal theory behind the porn case, so let's do that.

01:34:05.000 Okay, the porn case.

01:34:05.920 Okay, we're having dessert first.

01:34:07.240 Here we go.

01:34:07.680 Gentleman is suing his parents for destroying his pornography collection.

01:34:16.640 An Indiana man suing his parents in federal court for destroying his gargantuan collection of pornography.

01:34:23.420 He says the value is $30,000.

01:34:26.820 Wow.

01:34:27.340 It was so large, it filled over a dozen moving boxes.

01:34:31.620 I was going to say, I think the porn industry at this point would disagree with this analysis.

01:34:34.920 I think they're churning out a lot of material and not getting paid a lot for it anymore.

01:34:39.460 Sad days.

01:34:40.780 Dad wrote, we counted 12 moving boxes full of pornography plus two boxes of sex toys, as you might call them.

01:34:49.440 So this guy's going old school.

01:34:51.180 He's not on the internet.

01:34:52.600 No.

01:34:52.860 He's not going to any of the sites.

01:34:54.000 He's just popping up the old magazines there.

01:34:56.540 Is that what we're talking about?

01:34:57.380 And like videotapes?

01:34:58.940 Do we have a description of what this is?

01:35:01.840 Yeah.

01:35:03.280 Among the materials were videos depicting bestiality, incest, rape, torture, and everyone's favorite, urination.

01:35:14.180 Now, my understanding of this particular matter is that many of those things are not legal to possess.

01:35:21.340 Again, listen to Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher.

01:35:24.260 He'll explain all the details.

01:35:25.960 Well, now, this is going to come as a surprise to everyone involved.

01:35:28.940 But this guy was 40 years old and had to move back in with his parents.

01:35:36.300 Well, when you spend tens of thousands of dollars on illegal porn, you're lucky that you're living with your parents and not behind bars.

01:35:44.560 Well, he was married for a while.

01:35:49.140 And they're still together happily ever after?

01:35:51.500 No, something happened.

01:35:51.660 In a first year coming up?

01:35:52.440 No idea what happened, but he had a divorce and his wife got everything.

01:35:57.640 He got the porn collection.

01:35:58.880 Don't know what happened, but the mom and dad destroyed the entire pornography collection and then got rid of all the sex toys.

01:36:13.540 The father had written, said, we're going to destroy these things.

01:36:23.660 He didn't respond.

01:36:26.180 They started to destroy them.

01:36:29.320 And dad wrote to him as they got deeper into the porn collection.

01:36:34.160 I find your whole attitude toward women to be very disturbing.

01:36:38.660 Women are not objects for you to pleasure yourself with.

01:36:42.080 They are people created by God just as you were and should be treated with respect and dignity.

01:36:47.200 Believe it or not, one reason I destroyed your porn was for your own mental and emotional health.

01:36:53.480 I would have done the same if I had found a kilo of crack cocaine.

01:36:58.140 Someday, I hope you'll understand.

01:37:01.160 And then he got sued.

01:37:02.680 And then they got sued.

01:37:04.880 Now, that does not that analysis does not cover the bestiality tapes.

01:37:08.040 Did he cover that individually?

01:37:09.760 Because, I mean, pets are people, too.

01:37:13.200 Pets are people, too.

01:37:13.960 Yeah.

01:37:14.480 Yeah.

01:37:15.860 The guy, the 40-year-old said, you can't just go around destroying people's stuff that you don't like or agree with.

01:37:22.720 We live.

01:37:23.940 Now, this is this is coming from a guy who has bestiality and urination tapes.

01:37:29.320 He said, hello, we live in a civilized society.

01:37:37.060 If you have a problem with my belongings, you should have stated that and I would have taken them elsewhere.

01:37:42.720 Instead, you chose to keep quiet and behave vindictively.

01:37:46.000 I hope destroying that porn felt really good.

01:37:50.040 Was it worth losing your son?

01:37:53.460 Now, I'd like to turn that question around.

01:37:57.260 Yeah.

01:37:58.760 Was your porn worth probably your wife and your two parents?

01:38:07.340 Yeah, that's a that's a good way of questioning.

01:38:11.540 And I would also argue if you say yes, dad may have been right.

01:38:16.080 Right.

01:38:16.460 No, I think dad was right.

01:38:17.880 I think that's clear.

01:38:18.820 I would also say just from a fundamental economic standpoint, you just I mean, I don't think you need to spend $30,000 on porn anymore.

01:38:28.880 Right.

01:38:29.580 Like you could just probably go on the Internet and get all this stuff times one hundred thousand for zero dollars.

01:38:37.420 What's the fascination of the VHS?

01:38:39.820 Without the VHS?

01:38:41.020 I know.

01:38:41.420 It's still blinking 12.

01:38:42.880 I know your Magnavox is not going to work out that well.

01:38:45.660 Right.

01:38:46.180 You may need to get an Apple TV to get it on the Magnavox.

01:38:49.660 But I think I mean, I just don't think the economic value of this is worth porn.

01:38:55.020 This is classic hustler.

01:38:56.900 It could be.

01:38:59.300 I will say that I wouldn't be completely stunned if he wins that case.

01:39:03.560 Right.

01:39:03.700 Like if I mean, I would think generally speaking, you know, when you're a kid, it's my house, my rules.

01:39:08.380 Right.

01:39:08.540 Like your possessions are are your parents possessions.

01:39:11.140 But when you're 40 years old and you're living with someone like if I'm a roommate with someone and I bring in a bunch of boxes there and they just throw the stuff out without any notice, they probably are in the wrong whether it's porn or not.

01:39:23.060 Now, it may open up some other legal issues for this young gentleman.

01:39:26.420 But this poor couple, it's their son.

01:39:30.860 And now this is all out there.

01:39:32.760 I mean, you know, one of the if you didn't you watch making a murder at all.

01:39:36.200 No.

01:39:36.820 Season two has a they go through.

01:39:40.260 They believe, you know, the defense's case in this is that one of the other family members was actually responsible for the murder.

01:39:45.460 So one of the things they go through is the computer of one of the one of the kids who they find a search history and they go through it in explicit detail.

01:39:55.540 Oh, boy.

01:39:56.140 The search history was not encouraging for this person's future prospects.

01:40:00.840 And I mean, really dark stuff like the stuff you're talking about.

01:40:04.280 I mean, but every variation of just searching the Internet for every creepy thing you can think of.

01:40:09.160 And like you've just just just that being on television.

01:40:15.140 How can that family ever?

01:40:17.740 Be a family again.

01:40:19.360 Right.

01:40:19.580 Like, and he, you know, you know, spoiler alert, it's not working very well, even coming up with these things.

01:40:24.560 But who caused that?

01:40:26.320 Him.

01:40:26.760 Right.

01:40:26.980 I mean, it's his fault, although he thought he was doing something in private.

01:40:30.020 And and now little does he know, because in theory, someone else murdered someone.

01:40:36.420 Can I ask you something?

01:40:37.300 And now his search history is out there.

01:40:39.200 Can I ask you something?

01:40:40.140 Yes.

01:40:41.200 Do you leave your pornography collection, if you had one at your mother's house?

01:40:50.600 No.

01:40:51.880 You try to avoid that when possible.

01:40:54.120 And if mom would have found, like, I don't even know, the Sears catalog or something underneath your bed, that would not be a good thing.

01:41:03.440 Right.

01:41:03.680 When mom came in, you don't leave your porn and sex toy collection at your mom's house.

01:41:12.640 How little respect do you have?

01:41:15.480 Well, this for mom, particularly this 40 year old living at home because he got divorced, likely because of too much porn, was not making the best decisions.

01:41:23.620 Glenn, I hate to break this to you.

01:41:25.060 I know it ruins your whole theory here, but he may not understand women is what you're saying.

01:41:31.260 Yeah, maybe not.

01:41:32.300 I'm saying women, humanity, the Internet, lots of things he didn't understand.

01:41:35.600 Apparently, yeah.

01:41:36.600 Storage.

01:41:37.180 It's storage units that are available for $19.99 a month.

01:41:40.240 What is wrong with you?

01:41:41.420 Just I mean, take a step or two.

01:41:43.040 What is wrong with you, dude?

01:41:43.940 All right.

01:41:44.520 Well, we've got two more stories to cover.

01:41:46.700 Trump and his veto and dog owners are happier and better.

01:41:51.320 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

01:41:53.020 Than cat owners.

01:41:54.140 What?

01:41:54.580 Much better.

01:41:55.340 Hmm.

01:41:55.860 Yes.

01:41:57.060 Cat owners are communists.

01:41:59.340 Let me tell you about X chair.

01:42:01.320 That's not that message not brought to you by X chair, by the way.

01:42:04.100 As I eat a donut.

01:42:05.460 I don't know.

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01:43:08.580 At blazetv.com slash Glenn, you can watch the shows from the last week.

01:43:12.720 We've got a couple exposés on Joe Biden.

01:43:14.660 You've got the cost of free college and Tim Tebow on tonight's program.

01:43:17.880 So, you know, it's a rough day when you look at each other and go, I have no idea how to

01:43:30.240 even ask that question of Google.

01:43:32.400 Somebody should get like Mike Lee on the phone.

01:43:34.840 We're trying to figure out, Trump has issued the second veto of his presidency, and Congress

01:43:45.980 does not have the votes to override him.

01:43:48.420 And what this is, the bill would have invoked the War Powers Resolution to pull the U.S.

01:43:53.720 assistance to Saudi Arabia out of Yemen.

01:43:58.680 Now, this is something that has been going on for years.

01:44:02.540 They just, Obama put us in the middle of this war.

01:44:06.000 I don't want to be in this war.

01:44:08.120 Nobody, you remember when George Bush was like, you got to go and ask Congress for permission.

01:44:12.900 So he did.

01:44:14.220 And they voted for Iraq.

01:44:16.820 That was something that I believe the president has to have the ability to say, I have to act

01:44:24.000 and I have to act right now, send them in.

01:44:26.760 But then Congress has the ability after 30 days to say, you know what, dude, you haven't

01:44:33.080 made your case.

01:44:33.940 I'm turning this off.

01:44:35.660 They have a right to do that.

01:44:37.240 That is their constitutional power.

01:44:40.160 I mean, really, you know, they I think constitutionally they should be voting for it from the very

01:44:44.880 beginning.

01:44:45.280 The War Powers Act expands the executive power to be able to have any time at all to be able

01:44:50.320 to react.

01:44:50.780 Me personally, I think 30 days is reasonable.

01:44:55.340 That's different than what we're talking about, though.

01:44:57.540 I completely agree with you.

01:44:59.200 It's reasonable.

01:45:00.340 And I think it's isn't it 60, it's 60 days and then a 30 day withdrawal period.

01:45:05.040 Maybe that's what it is when it comes to the War Powers Act.

01:45:07.380 But the War Powers Act, the War Powers Resolution is not in the Constitution.

01:45:12.120 It's just something they passed.

01:45:13.460 Correct.

01:45:13.680 So and that's why there's been fighting about it ever since, because it does, you know,

01:45:19.880 it treads on some very tender ground because there's a conflict between both sides here.

01:45:26.020 I mean, you know, in theory, Congress is supposed to be able to declare war and that's supposed

01:45:31.800 to be the way it's gone.

01:45:32.780 And we've gone many different directions of that over the years.

01:45:35.720 But here is the problem.

01:45:36.680 This this comes from everything we passed around the time of the Patriot Act.

01:45:40.680 We passed special powers for Islamic terror.

01:45:45.740 OK, which means you can fight any place on Earth as long as it's terror.

01:45:53.060 You can fight it.

01:45:54.320 So let's just say, you know, the, you know, people who believe in, I don't know, Beto all

01:46:05.140 of a sudden decide, you know, we're going to throw really wimpy punches at people if the

01:46:10.660 president wanted to declare that terror.

01:46:13.720 And if it was regarded as terror, he would have the power to go scoop those people up.

01:46:20.000 So that's the problem is when it's deemed terror.

01:46:24.740 Yeah.

01:46:25.380 The president.

01:46:26.040 Now, that's an extreme case.

01:46:27.080 And obviously it wouldn't happen.

01:46:28.000 But but that's what is happening in Yemen.

01:46:30.840 It's the war on terror.

01:46:32.900 Right.

01:46:33.140 And so he's using that that that loophole.

01:46:36.860 And Barack Obama did this.

01:46:39.160 He's the one who started this.

01:46:40.580 He used that loophole to get us roped in in Yemen where we're providing support.

01:46:46.100 Well, make the case.

01:46:48.420 I personally think you can, but make the case.

01:46:53.120 Yeah.

01:46:53.680 And I don't understand why that's a big issue.

01:46:56.140 Now, of course, we're well past what the War Powers Act even allows for.

01:46:59.900 Correct.

01:47:00.380 And they have now voted.

01:47:02.220 But I mean, he has, of course, the right to veto that.

01:47:04.260 That's part of our system as well.

01:47:05.800 But that's why Congress and I see I don't trust anybody in Congress because I think it's

01:47:11.380 all it's just, you know, if Congress voted today and said, we're going to take away the

01:47:16.720 funding, really, where were you when this was started?

01:47:20.560 You didn't have those scruples before.

01:47:23.440 And so I don't believe that there's an honest bone in anybody's body in Washington because

01:47:30.340 the House clearly against Donald Trump.

01:47:33.900 They I think and this is why we have to get Mike Lee on the phone.

01:47:39.340 I believe that because the House of Representatives controls the purse strings.

01:47:44.720 I believe the House can cut the funding off unless there's a loophole in with this new

01:47:54.700 Patriot Act kind of time period.

01:47:56.960 I don't think Trump would still be able to veto it.

01:47:59.340 For example, they tried to defund Planned Parenthood, right?

01:48:02.440 Not only did the defunding of Planned Parenthood have to go through the House and pass the House,

01:48:06.140 then it went to the Senate where it failed.

01:48:07.740 But if it had succeeded in the Senate, it would have gone to it would have gone to the

01:48:12.360 president who could have vetoed it.

01:48:14.000 Now, this president would not have vetoed that.

01:48:16.080 So what good is the power of the purse strings?

01:48:18.340 Well, it's still where everything originates.

01:48:21.060 It doesn't mean you can just cut off funding for anything you don't like.

01:48:23.700 Then any like wouldn't the Republican Congress could cut off all funding for Obamacare.

01:48:28.360 We wouldn't have to worry about repealing it.

01:48:29.700 But here's here's here's the way this was set up.

01:48:32.020 And we've so lost this.

01:48:33.580 Here's how this was set up.

01:48:36.220 The people have to be listened to.

01:48:39.220 This is we the people.

01:48:42.160 And so they gave us a representative government, all those representatives.

01:48:46.340 This is why, you know, California has, you know, I don't know, 400 and Texas has a thousand

01:48:52.380 representatives, you know, and Delaware gets Joe Biden on Tuesdays.

01:48:57.740 And when he's not on the name track.

01:48:59.360 Right.

01:48:59.640 When they're when they're in the House of Representative, it is representative of the general

01:49:05.380 population of each state and they have the fastest throw them out policy every two years.

01:49:13.400 You can throw those guys out.

01:49:14.740 OK, that's where they put the power of the purse strings.

01:49:18.640 So if somebody goes in there and they're like, you know what?

01:49:20.840 We need 90 percent taxes.

01:49:23.260 You know, in two years, if the American people are against it, they can throw them out.

01:49:28.020 All right.

01:49:30.240 Then you're supposed to have the balance of the Senate, which was two people selected by

01:49:36.820 the state, not by the voters, but by the state house.

01:49:41.160 The governor in the state house was supposed to say, we're going to pick two people that

01:49:45.900 are as Maine as possible, as Minnesotan as possible.

01:49:52.000 And we're going to send those guys because they have to stand guard for the state.

01:49:57.120 So the House of Representatives represents the people.

01:50:01.920 The Senate represents the state and the president represents the president and just trying to

01:50:11.700 CEO all of this stuff together.

01:50:14.280 So you had to have the the president have the final say, and he's only supposed to veto if

01:50:21.820 it is unconstitutional or he believes it's unconstitutional.

01:50:26.020 If he doesn't like it, it doesn't matter.

01:50:29.800 The veto is for unconstitutional things.

01:50:33.200 And that's been dead for a long, long time.

01:50:35.280 So we've completely screwed this system up.

01:50:38.100 But what good is the power of the purse?

01:50:41.840 If if you can't stop anything.

01:50:45.280 Well, you can.

01:50:46.420 You just have to go through the system of government that we have, I guess.

01:50:49.440 And I mean, you have a situation.

01:50:51.080 This happened with the whole emergency declaration argument, right?

01:50:54.400 Like, it's like, well, Congress passes a law that says we want to give the president a chance to

01:51:00.340 declare an emergency for a short period of time, but we would have a chance to override it with a veto.

01:51:06.060 Essentially, you know, Congress, all they have to do is just pass a majority and it's over.

01:51:09.500 Well, that went to the that went to the Supreme Court was ruled unconstitutional.

01:51:12.140 So that's why they needed to have the, you know, the override of the veto vote, which is a much higher standard, much more difficult to pull off to block the emergency declaration.

01:51:22.780 And they were not able to do it.

01:51:24.360 They were not able to come up with those votes.

01:51:25.660 The same thing here with they don't have the they don't have the votes in either house to overturn the veto.

01:51:30.280 Maybe I think this is just different for me because it's war.

01:51:34.020 It's war.

01:51:34.820 People are being killed.

01:51:36.280 And if the president decides to go in, I give the president, I think the president needs to have the ability to go, guys, this just happened.

01:51:46.960 DEFCON one go now.

01:51:48.780 OK, he needs that power.

01:51:50.860 Very reasonable.

01:51:51.540 Right.

01:51:52.000 In George Washington's time, maybe not.

01:51:54.380 But you need it in today's world where a jet can be or a missile can be over our cities in 13 minutes.

01:52:01.920 And I think that's an argument to, by the way, amend the Constitution for something like that.

01:52:05.720 They would give a window.

01:52:07.220 But to just pass a bill and then I mean, it's seemingly by multiple presidents in a row here being ignored.

01:52:13.540 The idea that the Constitution, you know, gives Congress this declaration of war power, that that is being ignored.

01:52:21.780 And then even the War Powers Act has been ignored by multiple presidents in a row.

01:52:26.380 Again, if you look at George W. Bush, he still took his power seriously.

01:52:31.760 He still had the power.

01:52:32.800 Man, those jets were over in Afghanistan.

01:52:36.180 He, you know, he moved when he had to.

01:52:39.300 But he also knew when you were dealing with something that was dicey, that the American people are split on, go to Congress.

01:52:47.220 It's only good for you, I think.

01:52:48.400 It's good for the country.

01:52:49.320 Right.

01:52:49.500 I mean, you want people on record saying that you only want to go to war when you don't want that to be a partisan issue.

01:52:55.080 Right.

01:52:55.300 You want that to be something that we're all behind or at least the vast majority are.

01:52:58.580 And you want to avoid it in most circumstances.

01:53:01.820 And, you know, I understand that this is a dicey situation over there.

01:53:05.460 I mean, it is.

01:53:06.580 They talk about it as the biggest human rights situation in the world right now in Yemen.

01:53:12.340 It's a disaster over there.

01:53:14.440 And it's a proxy war.

01:53:16.080 But we're involved in it.

01:53:17.200 And if we're going to be involved in it, there's a good case to be involved in it if you want to.

01:53:20.420 Yeah, there is.

01:53:20.800 And people have made it.

01:53:21.480 There's a good case.

01:53:21.900 It should be something that that is approved by Congress.

01:53:25.380 You know, it shouldn't just be something that presidents could just start doing.

01:53:27.880 And by the way, the president that did this was Barack Obama.

01:53:30.180 Yeah.

01:53:30.380 No, this is not Donald Trump.

01:53:31.700 This is Barack Obama.

01:53:33.080 I was against it under Barack Obama.

01:53:35.340 And Donald Trump, one of the things that he said, he was going to stop these endless wars and he was going to get us out of these foreign entanglements.

01:53:41.900 And I wish he would take this as one of those wars that need to be stopped or make the case.

01:53:50.840 Make the case.

01:53:51.900 Because I know why we're in that proxy war.

01:53:54.660 It is to stop Iran.

01:53:57.580 And the Houthi rebels in Yemen are big problems to Saudi Arabia.

01:54:02.980 So to balance the region, you want to keep the Houthi rebels at bay so Saudi Arabia doesn't collapse, which would give all the power to Iran.

01:54:13.340 I get it.

01:54:15.060 I don't want to be in that war.

01:54:17.360 I don't want anything to do with it.

01:54:18.860 But at least make the case and let the people decide.

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01:55:42.080 A very well-respected survey.

01:55:44.620 It's been a barometer of American politics, culture, and behavior for more than four decades.

01:55:50.300 Started to ask the critical question that they've never asked before.

01:55:56.880 Cat or dog?

01:55:59.240 In 2018, General Social Survey, for the very first time, included a battery of questions on pet ownership.

01:56:05.660 Finds that not only quantified the nation's pet population, nearly six in ten households have at least one,

01:56:11.880 but they made it possible to see how pet ownership overlaps with all sorts of factors of interest for social scientists,

01:56:19.100 like happiness.

01:56:20.600 For starters, there is little difference between pet owners and non-owners when it comes to happiness.

01:56:27.600 Okay, so you own a pet, you don't own a pet, you're about equal in happiness.

01:56:32.200 The two groups are indistinguishable on the likelihood of identifying as very happy,

01:56:40.500 a little over 30%, or not too happy in the mid-teens.

01:56:44.140 But when you break the data down to pets, dogs, cats, or both, the divide emerges.

01:56:52.340 Dog owners are about twice as likely as cat owners to say they're happy.

01:56:56.600 Now, this is people owning a dog or a cat, if they own both, it's almost as if it negates itself.

01:57:07.140 Right, no effect.

01:57:08.280 No effect, okay?

01:57:10.120 Dog people, in other words, according to the survey, are slightly happier than those without any pets.

01:57:17.020 Those in the cat camp, on the other hand, are significantly less happy than the petless.

01:57:22.600 Yes, okay?

01:57:23.740 So if you have a cat, you're miserable.

01:57:27.060 You're miserable.

01:57:28.200 And this is obvious.

01:57:29.680 You're on the road to socialism.

01:57:31.340 You own a cat.

01:57:32.600 You're on the road.

01:57:35.260 You're at least a progressive.

01:57:36.600 Why are you on the road to socialism?

01:57:38.240 You may not even think so.

01:57:38.740 You just are.

01:57:39.340 You just are.

01:57:40.460 You just are.

01:57:41.680 Why are you on the road to socialism?

01:57:43.320 Because you own a cat.

01:57:43.660 Because you have no feelings.

01:57:45.340 Cats have contempt, okay?

01:57:47.640 Cats have contempt for human beings.

01:57:49.820 Is this in the study?

01:57:51.320 It could be.

01:57:51.940 No, I don't.

01:57:53.040 Maybe, yeah.

01:57:54.460 A 2016 study of dog and cat owners, on the other hand, yielded greater happiness rating for dog owners relative to cat people.

01:58:00.820 It attributed the contrast, at least in part, to differences in personality.

01:58:04.760 Dog owners tend to be more agreeable.

01:58:07.900 Conservatives.

01:58:09.720 Conservatives are more agreeable?

01:58:11.260 We're more agreeable.

01:58:11.920 We're more likely, it says in the study, it does say this, that they are more likely to just go out and make friends.

01:58:16.440 And, you know, they're just walking the dog and they're like, hey, and they start talking about things and they just are agreeable people.

01:58:22.680 I want to say more agreeable on issues of principle.

01:58:25.140 They are more extroverted and less, and this is from the survey, this is not me, and less neurotic than cat owners.

01:58:34.840 This is like your study.

01:58:37.240 Did you design this thing?

01:58:38.220 2015 study linked the presence of a cat in the home to fewer negative emotions, but no increase in positive ones.

01:58:46.740 Dog owners are more likely to engage in outdoor physical activity than people who don't own dogs.

01:58:54.180 Cat lovers generally stay in their house.

01:58:57.720 They should.

01:58:58.120 Look, you can have one cat.

01:58:59.620 You can marry somebody who has a cat.

01:59:01.620 You have a cat.

01:59:02.300 You can have two cats.

01:59:03.400 I'll even give you three cats.

01:59:05.260 Once you hit over three cats, unless you live on a farm, Department of Homeland Security is coming because you're going to turn into one of those crazy cat people.

01:59:12.640 Anyway.

01:59:13.980 And that's in the study, obviously.

01:59:15.760 It's someplace, I'm sure.

01:59:17.380 Dog owners are more likely to seek comfort from their pets in times of stress, more likely to play with their pet and consider their pet a member of the family.

01:59:26.560 Honestly, this is what Ernest Hemingway said.

01:59:29.880 Human beings, for one reason or another, hide their feelings, but a cat does not.

01:59:34.820 Yeah.

01:59:35.380 And human beings don't crap in a box in the laundry room either.

01:59:40.560 And I think that's the real key.

01:59:44.020 If you're crapping in a box by the laundry, no, you're not staying in my house.

01:59:52.440 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

01:59:56.560 You're listening.

01:59:57.460 You're listening.

01:59:58.100 You're listening.

01:59:58.220 You're listening.

02:00:00.280 You're listening.

02:00:12.320 You're listening.

02:00:13.280 You're listening.

02:00:15.020 You're listening.

02:00:16.020 You're listening.

02:00:16.380 You're listening.

02:00:17.000 You're listening.

02:00:17.960 You're listening.

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02:00:21.040 You're listening.

02:00:21.980 I don't know.

02:00:23.200 I don't know.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 17, 2019

The Pursuit To Love Our Enemies？｜ Guests： Tim Ballard & Arthur Brooks ｜ 4⧸17⧸19

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