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00:00:00.000 Glenn is bugging me.

00:00:01.220 How can you endorse it without opening it?

00:00:03.320 Well, I mean, I just, this bottle I haven't opened.

00:00:05.220 I've opened other bottles of Fox and Odin.

00:00:07.060 You haven't opened that one, so it must not be very good.

00:00:09.320 I'm not endorsing this specific bottle.

00:00:11.300 I'm saying Fox and Odin generally is something you're going to love.

00:00:14.700 It's Kraft American whiskey.

00:00:15.740 I know if I drank that whiskey, what is it, Fox and Odin?

00:00:19.200 I would have opened the bottle already and just done a test to make sure it's okay.

00:00:24.140 I will say, every minute I talk to you, I think more and more about opening that bottle

00:00:27.340 for so many different reasons.

00:00:29.260 It's so true. 0.84

00:00:30.720 It's the holiday season, and it's a great time for Fox and Odin.

00:00:33.680 You've probably had a year that may have had a bit of stress in it.

00:00:37.660 No, I'm just looking at the bottle.

00:00:39.480 It's a beautiful bottle.

00:00:40.660 It is a beautiful bottle.

00:00:41.580 What a great gift that would be for someone you love.

00:00:44.680 That's one serving.

00:00:46.280 Does it say how many servings does it say?

00:00:48.380 One.

00:00:49.060 It's not one serving.

00:00:49.840 That's one serving.

00:00:50.840 It's a couple more than one, but you'll love every serving of Fox and Odin, Kraft American whiskey.

00:00:57.060 I keep saying.

00:00:57.800 If you just buy it online, you can ship it to your door, someone you love, their door,

00:01:04.220 or even Glenn's door.

00:01:05.620 I wouldn't necessarily recommend that one, but foxandodin.com.

00:01:08.660 It's great.

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00:01:14.900 And I open this to celebrate Joe Biden's re-election if he wins.

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00:01:53.480 Hello and welcome to the program.

00:01:56.320 Well, it doesn't seem like anybody can agree on who won, who lost last night.

00:01:59.860 So I want to open up the phones to you.

00:02:01.620 Who won?

00:02:02.120 Who lost?

00:02:02.660 Did you watch the debate?

00:02:04.100 Kind of hard to find on Superstation WGN.

00:02:08.200 But if you did see it, you most likely saw it on the Blaze last night as we went through it all.

00:02:15.580 We're going to go through it again.

00:02:16.560 But if you watch the debate, who won?

00:02:20.120 Who lost?

00:02:21.200 Was anybody's mind changed?

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00:02:26.040 We're not talking about Donald Trump.

00:02:28.760 We're talking just about the four on stage.

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00:04:06.240 Well, let's say hello to our executive producer, Mr. Stu Bergeer.

00:04:12.080 Thanks.

00:04:13.000 Hello, Glenn.

00:04:13.900 Great debate last night.

00:04:14.980 I thought it was interesting.

00:04:15.860 I thought it was, too.

00:04:16.680 I thought it was really good.

00:04:17.900 Me, too.

00:04:18.660 Me, too.

00:04:19.000 I think the real winner last night, out of all of them, was Megyn Kelly.

00:04:24.080 She was great.

00:04:24.740 She was really, really good.

00:04:27.580 She's on a plane today.

00:04:29.000 We're hoping to catch her in between.

00:04:31.220 But she was the winner.

00:04:34.660 This was the best debate.

00:04:36.500 She held everybody's feet to the fire. 0.95

00:04:38.300 She asked tough questions.

00:04:40.360 She was fair. 0.99

00:04:41.260 She told people, shut up. 0.99

00:04:44.560 Nobody can hear you. 0.99

00:04:45.960 When they were talking over each other.

00:04:47.960 And it ended it.

00:04:49.200 I mean, I thought she was really, really good.

00:04:52.060 Yeah, really, really good.

00:04:52.980 She, you know, her questions.

00:04:54.800 And this goes back to her previous debate performances as well.

00:04:57.600 They're very well laid out.

00:05:00.800 You might not like the question.

00:05:02.440 And I think that's kind of the point with her.

00:05:04.260 She's trying to ask a question that's going to put you in a difficult position to see what you can do with it.

00:05:09.380 And that's the whole point of these debates.

00:05:11.400 But she wasn't asking them for liberal reasons.

00:05:15.820 Right.

00:05:16.200 She was framing all of her questions the way a conservative would want it framed.

00:05:22.480 There are certain things that we want answered that the liberals don't even understand.

00:05:27.580 Yeah.

00:05:27.860 I mean, if you think about how the left handles these debates, they ask the questions that they care about, which makes sense, right?

00:05:33.680 But they ask, hey, what about January 6th or whatever?

00:05:37.860 However, instead, you got questions last night that I think were substance related.

00:05:42.480 They were actually issue related.

00:05:44.140 They were policy related.

00:05:45.880 They were important questions that all the candidates needed to answer.

00:05:49.280 And I thought she did a great job.

00:05:50.980 And, you know, the whole debate overall I thought was really good.

00:05:53.880 I mean, maybe it's a low hurdle to clear to say it's the best one of the four.

00:05:58.960 Right.

00:05:59.080 But I thought, look, if you take it out of the context of the actual election, which is difficult here to do, I understand it.

00:06:05.500 You have a candidate who's 20 or 30 points ahead, depending on which state you're looking at.

00:06:10.180 And he's not there.

00:06:11.660 So, I mean, there's a big asterisk to all of this.

00:06:14.240 But you know what?

00:06:14.800 I wouldn't do it either.

00:06:15.780 If I were Donald Trump, I was this far ahead.

00:06:18.160 I wouldn't do it either.

00:06:19.020 I think that's, I don't, strategically, I agree with you.

00:06:23.520 Yes.

00:06:23.840 Like, if I'm, if I'm.

00:06:25.500 That's all there is.

00:06:26.420 When you are trying to win, you use strategy.

00:06:30.120 And this is the best strategy.

00:06:31.600 Honestly, if I were Donald Trump, I would consider running the campaign that Joe Biden did.

00:06:37.060 With an exception of the, you know, one chair and then a big circle around it.

00:06:41.740 And then, like, 12 feet later, another circle with a chair in the middle.

00:06:45.240 Oh, gosh, remember that?

00:06:45.800 Yeah, it was horrible.

00:06:46.660 What a weird time.

00:06:46.960 But I would just stay quiet because everybody is hanging themselves and Joe Biden's economy

00:06:53.180 and his, you know, the way he speaks and just hope that he would be shamed into a debate

00:07:02.240 because we do need a debate between the two of them.

00:07:04.820 Do you think that's really an option for Donald Trump?

00:07:07.300 Because I think he's doing that now at some level with the assistance of the media.

00:07:12.640 The media seems to not really want to be focusing on Donald Trump right now for whatever reason.

00:07:18.620 You know, you talked about this, I think, a couple weeks ago.

00:07:21.460 Yeah.

00:07:21.980 A former president of the United States was testifying on stand in a trial.

00:07:26.700 And I did we see any coverage of it at all?

00:07:29.420 I didn't.

00:07:29.680 Other than a quick maybe mention or headline.

00:07:31.620 Normally, they'd be wall to wall saying how bad this guy is or whatever they want to say.

00:07:37.100 Right now, it seems like they have made the decision, along with a bunch of Democrats,

00:07:42.140 that the person they want to face in this election is Donald Trump.

00:07:46.460 That may very well be a terrible decision for them.

00:07:49.960 As we saw in 2016, they made the same call and it didn't work at all.

00:07:53.580 But if they're making that choice, it seems like once we get past the primary, Donald Trump is locked in as the candidate.

00:08:01.840 They're no longer going to leave every word he says on the sidelines.

00:08:05.500 All right. 0.98

00:08:06.080 Unless you believe that I they're dumb enough and out of touch enough to do that. 0.98

00:08:12.140 OK, that's a prequalifier. 0.98

00:08:13.680 But let me give you this comedian Bill Burr. 1.00

00:08:16.020 OK, he came out, launched into a rant and he said, you effing stupid liberals, what are you doing? 1.00

00:08:24.920 You're making Donald Trump a martyr and he's going to come back and win again. 1.00

00:08:30.620 And I think that's true.

00:08:32.480 Remember, his his poll numbers went up when they started putting him, you know, up as a martyr and going after him.

00:08:41.540 And the left just doesn't understand.

00:08:43.940 And, you know, this is Chris Christie.

00:08:46.160 He got booed.

00:08:46.860 Do we happen to have that clip?

00:08:48.680 Last thing he said was that Donald Trump wasn't going to be.

00:08:53.000 Yeah, he wasn't going to be voting.

00:08:55.140 Right.

00:08:55.620 It was part of his his final statement there.

00:08:57.580 And he was saying, you know, picture yourself going to the polls in November.

00:09:02.280 One thing you won't be seeing is Donald Trump there because he won't be able to vote because he'll be a felon by then.

00:09:07.580 And the whole place booed.

00:09:10.020 Yeah.

00:09:10.560 And it's it's because here's what he's missing.

00:09:13.940 If if Donald Trump were being tried fairly, he was charged fairly.

00:09:22.460 Yeah.

00:09:23.200 Then it would be a different story.

00:09:24.880 But nobody most people don't feel that this is anything but a political trial.

00:09:32.300 And so there every time you go after him, you make him stronger because people are like, this isn't going to stand.

00:09:38.280 This is the problem with this country.

00:09:40.620 And I think we can all agree with certainty that that is the effect on Republican primary voters.

00:09:47.740 Yes.

00:09:47.940 Like the question is whether that is the effect on general election voters.

00:09:51.720 And that's a much more complicated question.

00:09:53.860 Right now.

00:09:54.380 Especially independents.

00:09:55.000 Right now.

00:09:55.440 This is a good example.

00:09:56.420 This right now.

00:09:57.140 Donald Trump's polls look pretty good in the general of, you know, they they look as good or better than any of the other candidates.

00:10:03.560 Right.

00:10:03.680 Even, you know, Nikki Haley's polls have also looked pretty strong, but there's even some polls where Trump's ahead of Haley running in a general election.

00:10:11.340 The issue, of course, with this is we also are showing in these polls, you know, 10 and 12 percent for RFK Jr.

00:10:19.920 And you're seeing you're seeing Cornel West at 2 percent.

00:10:24.180 When we get further on in this process, what happens?

00:10:29.140 You know, one of the big if you look at the latest polls on Joe Biden, he is down.

00:10:35.040 These are terrible polls for him.

00:10:36.480 And typically, I think we would look at that and celebrate.

00:10:40.040 Right.

00:10:40.220 OK, people are waking up.

00:10:41.340 Right.

00:10:41.640 This is a good thing.

00:10:43.660 Joe Biden's polls are down.

00:10:45.340 He's a weaker candidate.

00:10:46.420 Good.

00:10:46.780 Right.

00:10:47.000 That's good.

00:10:47.480 But the problem with that is when you look deeper at those polls, one of the reasons you're seeing some of this erosion is because younger voters that are hardcore Democrats are saying, I don't like the way Joe Biden is so pro-Israel.

00:11:06.360 Now, number one, it's possible.

00:11:10.180 That's just the reality.

00:11:11.440 And they never want to vote.

00:11:12.760 They just go somewhere else.

00:11:13.920 It's possible.

00:11:14.540 But when we get after a couple billion dollars are spent and we are now in October of 2024, do you think those younger voters whose complaint about Joe Biden is that he's too pro-Israel right now are going to come back home?

00:11:31.520 They might just stay home.

00:11:33.000 And that might be the best thing possible, honestly.

00:11:35.260 Because they're not going to go to Donald Trump.

00:11:36.660 He's pro-Israel.

00:11:37.540 I mean, clearly much more than Joe Biden.

00:11:40.500 So that weakness is we don't know how real it is.

00:11:46.560 We know that Joe Biden is a weak candidate.

00:11:49.160 But the reason why other candidates on the Republican side are beating Joe Biden handily is largely because of this type of erosion, erosion from Democrats, younger Democrats that are not typical Republican voters.

00:12:03.300 So if they come home like they usually do, I mean, we know what happens with these Republican or these third party candidates.

00:12:09.760 Gary Johnson was showing up at 10 and 12 percent of the polls.

00:12:12.480 People don't forget that.

00:12:13.300 It didn't happen.

00:12:13.800 It never holds.

00:12:15.140 So if that does happen and people say, OK, forget that.

00:12:18.940 I'm going back home.

00:12:19.880 I'm going to Joe Biden.

00:12:20.660 This election is too close.

00:12:21.560 I don't want to throw away my vote.

00:12:22.780 We know these arguments.

00:12:23.960 If that happens, it's going to get much more difficult.

00:12:26.680 Well, I really believe the only way that happens is if the press brings the the half of the country back to this place that Donald Trump is Hitler.

00:12:42.460 And I don't know if that works universally anymore.

00:12:46.480 And and here's why Joe Biden conned a lot of people.

00:12:52.060 The Democrats conned a lot of people that he was going to bring back normalcy.

00:12:57.160 Yeah.

00:12:57.240 Well, we know this isn't normal.

00:12:59.220 OK, the country is hurting both Republicans and Democrats.

00:13:02.880 The country is falling apart and everybody knows it.

00:13:06.100 So he doesn't have the well, I'm not going to be him.

00:13:10.500 Right.

00:13:11.120 But you're you.

00:13:12.300 Right.

00:13:12.420 That was his strength in 2020.

00:13:13.880 His strength was to say, I'm not him and look at me.

00:13:16.920 I'm going to return you to the normal time.

00:13:18.480 Right.

00:13:18.680 I'm not going to be crazy.

00:13:20.280 And it didn't happen.

00:13:21.820 So there's a lot of people that will just stay home.

00:13:25.260 Unfortunately, if Donald Trump is the nominee, there might be a lot of Republicans that would stay home as well.

00:13:34.900 Although I just don't think that that is as true as everybody wants you to believe.

00:13:39.820 Yeah, I don't think there's really a problem with with Donald Trump and Republicans.

00:13:44.020 In fact, you have the Lynn Cheney's, you know, the Liz Cheney's.

00:13:47.900 Yeah, but that's nobody.

00:13:49.020 Right.

00:13:49.200 Right.

00:13:49.460 I think that might actually hurt Biden.

00:13:51.920 It could.

00:13:52.200 Yeah, it could.

00:13:53.160 It really could.

00:13:54.060 And, you know, some of these polls have shown the RFK thing going both ways.

00:13:57.260 But it seems to be hurting Joe Biden more.

00:14:00.580 I think if you look at where this might go over a long period of time, you just have to factor it in.

00:14:08.600 I think you got to price it in in your head.

00:14:11.000 The media is not going to act like they are now during the general election.

00:14:17.180 That might be fine.

00:14:18.320 I mean, Donald Trump has survived that already.

00:14:20.460 He already had a really negative media and won in 2016.

00:14:23.860 He's already been able to do it.

00:14:25.160 So maybe he'll be able to do it again.

00:14:26.940 But you can't look at the current situation and think this is how it's going to go.

00:14:31.440 I mean, it may very well be also.

00:14:33.660 He goes through these trials and people are so upset about it and think he's being targeted that they all side with him and he wins easily.

00:14:38.520 Right.

00:14:38.640 Like that's a possibility, too.

00:14:40.440 But the media is going to do everything they can once he gets this nomination to take him out.

00:14:44.720 And at some level, that's true with these other candidates as well.

00:14:48.480 But with these other candidates, you have the possibility of of of essentially what the Biden approach was.

00:14:55.160 Right.

00:14:56.380 Look, we you guys have just lived through four years of Joe Biden.

00:14:59.420 I won't be him.

00:15:01.100 It's going to be difficult for Donald Trump to make that same argument because he's got that same type of thing built into him.

00:15:08.180 Everyone's made up their mind on both of these people.

00:15:10.500 You know, Haley DeSantis have a little bit of more of an opening. 1.00

00:15:14.720 It may come down to the vice president, because I think everybody is like, man, if he wins, I don't want Kamala Harris to be the president.

00:15:23.300 That would be a nightmare.

00:15:25.540 And so it may come down to the vice president.

00:15:29.360 If if you were doing a draft of who you thought Donald Trump would pick as his VP, who's your first pick?

00:15:38.480 First pick.

00:15:42.500 Again, not who you think it should be.

00:15:44.360 No, no, I know who he will.

00:15:45.840 I know.

00:15:47.040 This is a tough one.

00:15:48.200 I know.

00:15:49.840 I go back and forth between between Ramaswamy and Nikki.

00:15:57.580 Nikki would be smart because she'll pacify the the old guard Republican. 1.00

00:16:06.080 Uh, and she's a fighter, but he's not going to like that.

00:16:13.520 Yeah, I can't.

00:16:15.400 I mean, he obviously put her in his administration.

00:16:17.540 I know.

00:16:18.100 There's been a deep falling out since then.

00:16:20.760 Yeah.

00:16:21.260 Ramaswamy is still fighting for Donald Trump.

00:16:25.680 Oh, yeah.

00:16:26.560 So there's no.

00:16:27.680 Yeah.

00:16:27.900 There's no there's no light between them at all, really, at this point.

00:16:31.460 But, you know, and it's interesting because Haley strikes me as a Pence like pick. 1.00

00:16:37.860 Right.

00:16:38.340 It's a little bit different, obviously, but like it's someone who is, I think, respectable,

00:16:43.980 quote unquote, would please a lot of those voters who think, you know, Donald Trump is,

00:16:49.800 you know, his tweets are too bad and all that other stuff.

00:16:52.640 And that's what he needed in 2016.

00:16:54.580 And could take the job.

00:16:56.800 I don't know that he did.

00:16:57.560 Does he need that in 2024, though?

00:17:00.080 I think it could take the job.

00:17:02.380 He needs someone who could take the job.

00:17:03.860 Clearly.

00:17:04.240 That's obviously the number one role.

00:17:06.320 But with Pence, he picked someone number one to please evangelicals who were very on the

00:17:12.240 fence about Donald Trump early on.

00:17:14.540 And, you know, you get a somewhat of that with with Nikki Haley.

00:17:18.900 I think you still get.

00:17:20.180 But I don't think that's what he needs anymore.

00:17:21.380 His strength of the evangelicals is through the roof.

00:17:24.240 But he does get that.

00:17:25.440 You get a steady hand feel from Nikki Haley.

00:17:28.840 Ramaswamy, you don't really get that.

00:17:30.900 I like Vivek.

00:17:31.840 No, but you get a game changer.

00:17:32.920 You get a game changer and you get a bulldog who will go on television 900 times a day and

00:17:38.640 say and just argue with passion for every point that Donald Trump makes.

00:17:42.400 And I think Donald Trump would like that.

00:17:43.760 He likes those people.

00:17:44.720 I agree.

00:17:46.020 Except Ramaswamy is a star to some degree.

00:17:50.100 Now, that is fated.

00:17:52.000 People don't like him as much, which Donald Trump would like.

00:17:57.620 He doesn't want somebody that will compete with him.

00:18:01.700 You know what I mean?

00:18:02.800 Yeah, I think that's true.

00:18:03.460 He wants, you know, somebody who's solid for certain reasons, whatever.

00:18:06.300 But you work for me.

00:18:09.480 And Ramaswamy, I think, could do that.

00:18:11.520 And you're right. 0.96

00:18:12.200 He is a bulldog. 0.89

00:18:13.820 I would lean towards Ramaswamy as Donald Trump's pick. 0.59

00:18:19.360 I have for a long time.

00:18:20.760 I thought that Donald Trump was going to pick him.

00:18:24.500 But I think if Nikki Haley is a strong, you know, number two in the primaries, if she

00:18:31.820 starts to become just a juggernaut next to him, he'd probably be foolish not to take her.

00:18:40.220 We should also point out that precisely zero votes have been cast in the primary.

00:18:45.740 So he has not won the primary yet.

00:18:47.360 No, I know.

00:18:47.820 And it could all change.

00:18:49.120 Yeah, you're looking ahead a little bit here.

00:18:50.580 But I thought it was an interesting night last night.

00:18:52.240 888-727-BECK.

00:18:54.000 We're looking for people that, I want you just to judge it based on the last debate.

00:19:00.020 Donald Trump's not there.

00:19:01.240 So just out of those four, did anything change your mind?

00:19:06.560 Who won last night?

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00:20:13.280 Cassandra, did you have a favorite going in last night?

00:20:27.380 I did.

00:20:28.420 I really felt like Vivek, just on substance and content, he really, like the specifics

00:20:36.820 that he offered, you know, I felt like people who watch this number 4 debate really know

00:20:43.840 the issues because you either have to search out News Nation or The Blaze.

00:20:47.400 And he really, whether it's reasons he could, you know, do executive orders or ESG, you know,

00:20:58.700 even health care and climate change at the end.

00:21:01.160 I mean, he didn't just give, like, the political normal answers.

00:21:08.620 He really gave, you know, substantive answers, easy to understand, just out-of-the-box thinking.

00:21:19.420 So I thought he was a winner.

00:21:20.660 I thought he did well on exactly that.

00:21:24.120 Let me give you an example.

00:21:25.740 Here's, cut 19, please.

00:21:28.880 Why he's the only one.

00:21:30.260 Why am I the only one that can say this?

00:21:33.840 How is it that you think a parent should be able to okay these surgeries, never mind the sterilization of a child?

00:21:40.560 And aren't you way too out of step on this issue to be the Republican nominee?

00:21:44.800 No, I'm not.

00:21:46.160 Cut 19, please.

00:21:47.540 A little issue with the video here.

00:21:51.560 Sorry, everybody's counting quickly.

00:21:56.460 We're going to run out of time.

00:21:57.820 Yes.

00:21:58.340 Looks like we're having some issue with the machine or whatever.

00:22:01.540 Okay.

00:22:02.060 But can you describe the clip?

00:22:04.180 Yeah, he said, he brought up all of the things that I think a lot of hardcore Republican voters are talking about.

00:22:14.200 And he's like, why am I the only one on stage saying January 6th is an inside job?

00:22:19.740 Why am I the only one?

00:22:21.060 Why am I the only one talking about cryptocurrency?

00:22:24.300 It cannot happen.

00:22:27.320 Why?

00:22:27.620 And he wasn't on that.

00:22:28.980 Why am I the only one saying the things that I'm saying?

00:22:32.460 And he last night, again, like global warming, brought up a lot of stuff.

00:22:39.560 The problem with it is he's lost his likability.

00:22:45.560 He's not as funny as he thinks he is when he's in these debates.

00:22:50.600 That's the problem.

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00:24:36.120 I want to hear from you.

00:24:38.600 If you watched the debate last night, who won?

00:24:42.460 The press can't decide.

00:24:45.120 Last night, without giving you any names, there were three people on the stage that I would consider voting for president.

00:24:54.080 It's going to be hard to figure out which one I wouldn't consider.

00:24:57.500 Megyn Kelly?

00:24:58.760 Nope.

00:24:59.480 Nope.

00:24:59.940 I'd consider her as president. 0.55

00:25:01.480 So, three of them on stage, I'd consider.

00:25:06.540 Last night, my order shuffled.

00:25:13.740 And I thought...

00:25:15.140 Biden won.

00:25:16.200 Marianne Williamson, two?

00:25:17.780 No, she wasn't on stage.

00:25:18.740 They weren't on stage.

00:25:19.460 I know you're...

00:25:20.740 They don't count.

00:25:21.560 They're number one and two for you, but then...

00:25:22.920 And the way I look at this is, not who am I going to vote for,

00:25:26.440 who is the one that needs to go up against Donald Trump.

00:25:31.560 Okay?

00:25:32.140 So, make the decision on these four last night that are left in the race,

00:25:37.720 and then you have to go, okay, that person or Donald Trump.

00:25:43.320 Right.

00:25:43.700 So, just based on the people on stage last night, my order shuffled.

00:25:49.560 My number one changed.

00:25:52.400 Hmm.

00:25:53.620 And you're not going to name who your number one is?

00:25:55.580 Mm-mm.

00:25:56.100 Oh.

00:25:56.440 No.

00:25:56.880 It might change again.

00:25:57.800 Well, first of all, we all know if Glenn names that person, that person will lose.

00:26:01.000 Yes.

00:26:01.400 So, that we know.

00:26:02.140 Very true.

00:26:02.860 Very true.

00:26:03.760 It's a kiss of death.

00:26:04.180 It was Chris Christie.

00:26:08.540 All right.

00:26:09.180 So, Pat joins us now.

00:26:10.460 Pat, what did you think last night?

00:26:11.540 I thought DeSantis won, as he has every time.

00:26:15.160 Every time.

00:26:16.300 I think he's a great combination of decently spoken, good policies, good-looking candidate,

00:26:25.400 that has a solid story to tell about what he's done in Florida, I mean, he's good.

00:26:32.680 But I don't understand how people are like, I don't like when he smiles.

00:26:36.360 And last night, he didn't smile at all, and I don't like that.

00:26:39.120 You're like, what?

00:26:39.860 What do you-

00:26:40.400 Well, you can't win with some people.

00:26:41.760 I know.

00:26:42.220 Yeah.

00:26:42.780 There's just going to be people who stick to their Trump thing or their Nikki Haley thing

00:26:46.220 or whatever.

00:26:46.820 I- I- it's hard to come up with a case, for me at least, against Ron DeSantis.

00:26:51.700 I think he should- he should be the one to take on Trump.

00:26:54.540 Let them battle it out.

00:26:55.860 Let's see.

00:26:56.920 Those would be my two choices.

00:26:58.660 Trump and DeSantis.

00:26:59.520 How did Nikki do? 0.55

00:27:00.120 I dislike her. 0.91

00:27:04.100 I dislike her.

00:27:05.980 Yeah.

00:27:06.180 With all the intensity of a- probably about a million-way.

00:27:09.420 So, I thought, if you were a Nikki Haley fan, I thought the thing that- there were a couple

00:27:16.000 things that I just didn't think she did well on.

00:27:19.620 One, you don't take money from BlackRock.

00:27:24.820 Right.

00:27:25.480 I just don't care.

00:27:26.840 That's like taking money from Hamas.

00:27:29.320 I'm going to say no to that.

00:27:30.660 I'm going to say no to that.

00:27:32.120 You wouldn't take the Hamas box? 0.99

00:27:33.160 I would not take the Hamas box. 1.00

00:27:34.660 Come on now.

00:27:35.720 Pretty picky.

00:27:36.640 Yeah.

00:27:36.940 I know.

00:27:37.580 You just don't take money from BlackRock, and you also don't take it from one of the

00:27:42.900 largest donors to the Democratic Party.

00:27:45.340 You just don't do it.

00:27:46.340 Well, she can't control taking it.

00:27:47.900 To be fair, that one goes to a super PAC.

00:27:48.980 But she could say, I don't want those people.

00:27:51.440 I went to a super PAC.

00:27:53.200 I have nothing to do with that super PAC.

00:27:54.840 She did not announce it.

00:27:55.780 I would urge them to turn it back.

00:27:57.760 That'd be the way to do it.

00:27:58.700 She instead said, yeah, I like it.

00:28:01.880 I'll take money from anybody.

00:28:03.360 I won't.

00:28:04.460 Yeah, that's rough.

00:28:05.040 And one of the reasons why is she doesn't have any money. 1.00

00:28:10.760 This is the issue with Nikki Haley.

00:28:13.200 It's like she's come up in the polls, but she doesn't have a fully built out campaign. 0.99

00:28:17.640 Megyn Kelly said yesterday on her show that Nikki Haley just ran her first ad. 0.88

00:28:25.000 Not like her first ad in Iowa or her first ad in South Carolina.

00:28:29.440 Her first ad.

00:28:30.720 The first ad of the campaign.

00:28:32.460 Wow.

00:28:32.820 She just started running ads.

00:28:35.340 Wow.

00:28:35.880 That is, you know, look, a campaign that's not fully built out.

00:28:39.600 Now, she's had other things that she's done that have obviously worked.

00:28:42.200 I mean, it's not to say that you can't win a campaign without running ads like this.

00:28:47.420 But I just I find it, you know, she to understand her relation to the to the other candidates when it comes to money is important.

00:28:55.580 She's desperate for it.

00:28:56.940 Her campaign really needs cash. 1.00

00:28:58.880 And I'm not excusing this.

00:29:00.460 I think it's it's but it does explain it a little bit.

00:29:04.100 When did she and Chris Christie fall in love?

00:29:06.920 When did that happen?

00:29:07.820 I thought I thought this was bad when Chris Christie defended her.

00:29:14.240 Yeah.

00:29:14.340 So weird.

00:29:14.960 She should have said, excuse me, Chris.

00:29:17.680 Stop mansplaining.

00:29:18.840 Yeah.

00:29:19.240 I take care of myself.

00:29:20.480 Yeah.

00:29:20.700 Fight my own battles.

00:29:21.840 She should have said that.

00:29:23.160 I thought it made her look weak.

00:29:25.220 Yeah.

00:29:25.480 At that moment.

00:29:26.180 It seemed like that might have been a I don't know, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seemed almost like that was a pitch for Christie.

00:29:31.760 Hey, I'll be your vice president.

00:29:34.140 It could be a good pick.

00:29:35.140 What do you think about me?

00:29:35.840 I'm pretty good at these debates.

00:29:37.080 I think so, too.

00:29:37.720 You know, maybe I'm the attorney general.

00:29:40.160 What do you got for me?

00:29:41.340 And that definitely felt that way to me watching it.

00:29:45.020 It was weird and insincere because why?

00:29:48.760 Well, you know, everyone loves to beat up on Vivek and these things because they see him as the wrestling heel.

00:29:54.420 Right.

00:29:54.820 The one everyone can go up and be like, that's the bad guy.

00:29:57.560 We can all go after him.

00:29:58.540 Everyone has this.

00:29:59.520 Look how well spoken he is.

00:30:00.840 Yeah.

00:30:01.040 That's terrible.

00:30:01.920 Right.

00:30:02.340 He never says um or like.

00:30:04.560 Why?

00:30:05.420 Why?

00:30:06.100 He's not even human, this man.

00:30:09.340 He's a vegetarian candidate.

00:30:12.300 But it does seem like that was part of it, too.

00:30:15.180 Chris Christie has to be able to yell at someone.

00:30:17.820 Most of the audience likes DeSantis.

00:30:19.940 You know, a good chunk of the audience likes Haley. 0.92

00:30:21.760 And a good chunk of the audience likes Trump.

00:30:24.660 And Trump's not there.

00:30:25.860 He's got to yell at somebody.

00:30:26.800 He wants to yell at Trump.

00:30:27.500 I wish he was.

00:30:27.840 So he yells at Vivek.

00:30:29.220 No, I know.

00:30:29.960 He needs to be there.

00:30:31.540 I don't think so.

00:30:33.280 Why?

00:30:33.640 I really don't think so.

00:30:34.020 He should be answering the same questions they are.

00:30:36.180 This is a different time.

00:30:37.800 He should do it when it's, you know, between him and one other person.

00:30:44.080 I would never strategically, I would never do that.

00:30:48.400 Yeah.

00:30:48.640 Never do that.

00:30:49.340 First of all, you know who Trump is.

00:30:51.380 You know who he is.

00:30:52.400 I do.

00:30:52.980 But I want to hear him answer certain questions.

00:30:55.040 Like?

00:30:57.160 What?

00:30:57.800 You know, you've criticized Ron DeSantis on his performance during the pandemic.

00:31:03.660 What about yours?

00:31:05.240 You didn't hire.

00:31:06.340 You didn't fire Anthony Fauci.

00:31:08.680 I'd love to hear about that.

00:31:10.800 I'd love to hear where he is on Ukraine and Russia, on Israel and Hamas.

00:31:16.460 And I mean, there's a lot of.

00:31:17.700 I think we know where he is, though.

00:31:18.200 There's a lot of things that he doesn't really talk about or have to address.

00:31:21.760 His abortion stance.

00:31:22.920 His abortion stance.

00:31:23.760 I mean, you know, Nikki Haley mentioned, you know, the $8 trillion of debt.

00:31:27.920 That's suboptimal.

00:31:29.360 No, no, it is.

00:31:30.100 Suboptimal.

00:31:30.740 Those are things.

00:31:31.660 It is.

00:31:31.980 Good word of fact.

00:31:32.480 No, there are.

00:31:33.060 Look.

00:31:33.560 Look.

00:31:33.960 There are downsides.

00:31:35.460 But if I'm Donald Trump, if you're Donald Trump, do you step on that stage?

00:31:41.760 It's a little bit of Ted Williams on the last day of the season.

00:31:44.560 You know, hitting 400.

00:31:45.760 It is like that.

00:31:46.180 You know, it's like I get why they offer him.

00:31:48.960 Hey, Ted, you could just not play today.

00:31:50.700 You'll hit 400.

00:31:51.420 It'll be amazing.

00:31:52.560 But like I kind of like the idea that Ted Williams goes out and goes, what, three for five on the last day and hits 402.

00:31:58.740 I want the person who's going to be like, yeah, he played?

00:32:01.580 All right.

00:32:02.080 Thanks.

00:32:02.420 I don't know.

00:32:02.980 I don't know.

00:32:03.520 I don't know.

00:32:04.040 I don't know the end of the Ted Williams story.

00:32:05.540 Welcome to the 70-year-old story.

00:32:07.560 Yes, yes.

00:32:08.100 But I did.

00:32:09.580 So Ted's dead.

00:32:10.900 He's gone.

00:32:11.280 We lost him.

00:32:12.100 You could have broken that a little.

00:32:13.600 Sorry.

00:32:14.240 Ted doesn't feel good.

00:32:15.480 Oh, we lost him.

00:32:16.400 It would be if I was Donald Trump's campaign manager, I would be telling him every day, whatever you do, please don't say yes to one of these debates.

00:32:27.500 I would because I would think to myself strategically, what is the point?

00:32:31.180 But as an American, as a conservative, as a voter who actually cares about this stuff, I'd like to hear him.

00:32:38.120 Not, you know, you've asked him a lot of these questions, Glenn, in interviews, right?

00:32:41.300 I have.

00:32:41.620 He has answered a lot of these questions, but it's a different thing to be pressed by other candidates that are going against you, and I think it would be interesting.

00:32:49.380 You just know how it's going to end.

00:32:51.560 But good. 1.00

00:32:52.080 Shut up, fathead. 1.00

00:32:53.160 I mean, it's just going to. 1.00

00:32:54.400 Let him come out and deal with it.

00:32:55.260 You're not going to get that answer.

00:32:56.540 You'll get that answer in a one-on-one.

00:32:59.560 I mean, you know, we have had interviews with him.

00:33:02.600 When I have 15 minutes with him, it's impossible.

00:33:05.680 No, because he answers two questions and it's over.

00:33:07.860 Right.

00:33:07.960 If I go out and it's 90 minutes, I get an answer.

00:33:10.860 He'll give me those answers.

00:33:13.480 Look, I agree.

00:33:14.380 And I don't, I understand.

00:33:16.140 I totally get it.

00:33:17.500 Like, the purpose of this primary for Donald Trump is to win the primary.

00:33:21.920 Correct.

00:33:22.340 You know, and so I get it.

00:33:23.860 I understand why you wouldn't do it.

00:33:24.920 And he's probably already done that.

00:33:26.500 It certainly looks like he already won the primary.

00:33:28.480 I love that.

00:33:29.240 Remember Howard Dean.

00:33:31.620 Howard Dean.

00:33:32.180 I mean, we went through this last night.

00:33:33.340 Yeah!

00:33:34.560 Howard Dean had a huge lead.

00:33:36.160 Yeah.

00:33:37.280 Late in the campaign.

00:33:38.240 Mike Huckabee was at something like 10%.

00:33:40.560 Rick Santorum was at like 5% at this point.

00:33:44.000 Ted Cruz was only in the low double digits at this point.

00:33:47.520 Yeah, I think he had 14% at this point.

00:33:49.280 So, I mean, it's certainly possible.

00:33:52.140 It's not, I mean, you know, the amount of people who actually vote in the caucus is a different process.

00:33:57.500 The amount of people who actually vote in Iowa.

00:33:59.640 And the split is about 20.

00:34:01.420 The last poll that came out was something like 22 points, Trump's lead.

00:34:04.320 So, that's not insurmountable in six weeks.

00:34:07.520 Over DeSantis or Haley?

00:34:08.760 Who's number two in Iowa?

00:34:09.080 It was DeSantis and I think it was 25 or 26 over Haley.

00:34:12.520 Okay.

00:34:12.900 So, here's the thing.

00:34:14.000 I just, I, the difference between Dean and all the others, even Ted Cruz, is those numbers were, yeah, they were totally different.

00:34:25.660 Those numbers were up and down.

00:34:28.060 Donald Trump's numbers.

00:34:29.160 It's been very solid for months.

00:34:30.360 Been solid.

00:34:30.900 Look, it's, it's, it's, I only bring that up because, to point out, it can happen.

00:34:35.200 It's not the same situation.

00:34:37.120 You know, Rick Santorum was not running against a, a guy who was president for four years, right?

00:34:42.740 Like, I mean, it's a totally different situation.

00:34:45.860 But, again, you know, Donald Trump didn't win Iowa in 2016.

00:34:49.460 No.

00:34:49.740 You know, I mean, it might not be his strongest state.

00:34:53.340 And, you know.

00:34:53.640 But he won.

00:34:54.600 Did he win in New Hampshire and he won in South Carolina?

00:34:58.160 He did.

00:34:58.760 I think so, yeah.

00:34:59.440 Yeah, I mean, I've never seen somebody win those three states or two of the three and

00:35:06.540 not become the president.

00:35:09.000 There's only two contests that actually matter going in.

00:35:11.660 Number one is Iowa.

00:35:12.780 If DeSantis can win Iowa, he can maybe turn that into a run and try to do well in these

00:35:18.740 other states and stay in the race.

00:35:20.480 And then if he loses, I think, I think if DeSantis loses Iowa, it's over for DeSantis.

00:35:25.380 I think he has to win Iowa, in my view.

00:35:28.340 I mean, maybe if he was super close in second place, that would be okay.

00:35:32.280 But I think he has to beat Trump in Iowa.

00:35:34.120 And then you go to New Hampshire and that's where Haley gets to make her stand. 1.00

00:35:37.660 Because if Haley can win New Hampshire, the next state's South Carolina, which does mean,

00:35:42.280 you know, it gives her a little bit of life there. 0.94

00:35:44.200 There's an argument to make.

00:35:45.680 You've got to win one of the first two.

00:35:47.640 Yeah, you really, I think.

00:35:48.540 And if, but if Trump wins Iowa, Trump wins New Hampshire, with the exception of like, they

00:35:54.160 decided to throw him in a gulag or something, which is obviously something we need to consider

00:35:58.880 at this point in this country.

00:36:00.120 Yeah.

00:36:00.480 Other than that, it's pretty much over.

00:36:02.660 But again, no votes have been cast and we have to keep coming back to that.

00:36:05.760 It's important.

00:36:06.960 Pat, we were just talking about throwing him in a gulag.

00:36:10.140 I think that works to his advantage.

00:36:12.660 Oh yeah.

00:36:13.020 The gulag candidate in the, in the general election, you think in the primary, it works 0.88

00:36:18.540 to the primary, the primary definitely works general, but I mean, I'm not sure, especially

00:36:24.520 if they try to keep him off ballots, which, you know, Colorado lost that battle apparently

00:36:28.520 and hopefully every state would, but we'll see.

00:36:31.020 I mean, if you keep him off the ballot, I'm just, I mean, I just, it's, it's so crazy that

00:36:37.100 they keep calling him the authoritarian when they're doing all they're trying to keep him

00:36:41.760 off the ballot.

00:36:42.540 Oh, but they love democracy so much.

00:36:45.060 I know, I know.

00:36:45.820 They just loves democracy so much.

00:36:47.180 They want no other candidates on the ballot.

00:36:48.760 Just crazy.

00:36:50.020 Just absolutely crazy.

00:36:51.760 All right, Pat, thank you so much.

00:36:53.120 All right.

00:36:53.360 Ladies and gentlemen, by the way, I just mentioned 45 for Trump, 22 DeSantis, 19 Haley.

00:36:57.920 So a 23 point lead, but that is, I mean, you know.

00:37:00.540 Give me New Hampshire and South Carolina.

00:37:02.780 We'll do that when we come back.

00:37:03.720 Sure.

00:37:04.040 Thanks, Pat.

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00:38:33.800 Look, it's not something you would normally pay attention to.

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00:40:06.500 Let's take Thomas in New Jersey.

00:40:09.900 Hello, Thomas.

00:40:12.560 Hello, Thomas.

00:40:14.240 How are you?

00:40:15.960 Hi, Glenn.

00:40:16.500 I'm Thomas.

00:40:17.360 Hi, Thomas.

00:40:17.840 And I'm in New Jersey.

00:40:19.380 Right.

00:40:19.880 And something's wrong with our phone system.

00:40:22.380 Okay.

00:40:22.600 I just want to tell you what he's saying is I think Ron DeSantis stood his ground.

00:40:27.440 All right.

00:40:27.900 Thomas Standen, thank you very much.

00:40:29.720 Can we go to Carol in Michigan?

00:40:32.760 Hello, Carol.

00:40:34.140 Hi.

00:40:34.760 Hi.

00:40:35.620 How are you?

00:40:36.880 I'm good.

00:40:37.700 Good.

00:40:38.280 What did you think last night?

00:40:39.860 I think Ron DeSantis won.

00:40:44.260 Now, was this something that you were solid on going in or not?

00:40:53.040 I liked him.

00:40:54.680 I liked everything that he has said up to this point and to this point.

00:41:00.000 Yeah.

00:41:00.580 He clarified everything where you could actually understand what he did and what he will do because he's done it already.

00:41:07.680 He doesn't shy from saying that he's going to do it.

00:41:12.620 Yeah, I thought he put in a very strong performance last night.

00:41:19.180 Thank you so much, Carol.

00:41:20.460 John, Ohio.

00:41:22.440 Hi, Glenn.

00:41:23.360 Hi.

00:41:23.680 Who did you like going in or were you sold on anyone going in?

00:41:27.900 And then did anything change last night?

00:41:30.540 I went in as a Ron DeSantis supporter and I came away even more of a Ron DeSantis supporter because when he was on stage, you can tell that he has a vision and he keeps demonstrating that not only does he talk the talk, but he walks the walk.

00:41:44.340 And I'll say that as far as Ron DeSantis, what he demonstrated last night is that he's a man of merit.

00:41:49.860 And I know that resonates with you, Glenn, because you've always talked about George Washington and the merit of courage and you've written books about him.

00:41:56.580 And he is the only candidate on stage, off stage in this entire race who you can say he's a man of merit.

00:42:03.100 When you see him talk on stage and what he's doing and why he's doing it, it's never about himself.

00:42:08.320 It's never about his retribution, his vendetta, trying to make a star out of himself.

00:42:12.400 He has a clear vision, a clear mission and purpose for the American people and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which is what everything, I guess, conservative media or conservatives have purportedly have always wanted the last several years or decades or such.

00:42:25.940 And we have him on stage and he won hands down, no question.

00:42:31.700 Thank you so much.

00:42:32.780 I appreciate it, John.

00:42:33.540 I tell you, I think last night we had some of the best candidates the Republicans have had, you know, maybe in my lifetime.

00:42:44.360 I mean, since Reagan.

00:42:45.760 But think back to the Bob Dole years and the, you know, and the and the George Bush years.

00:42:52.940 I mean, you have strong candidates who are are willing to take a stand.

00:43:00.080 It's hard for me to agree with that after Doug Burgum dropped out.

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00:43:04.220 I know.

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00:44:06.260 We continue with your take on what happened in the debate last night, and it is a chance now for Blaze TV subscribers to get in.

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00:45:43.480 This is the Glenn Beck Program. 0.99

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00:45:54.500 The media is all screwed up.

00:45:57.080 They have no idea who won.

00:45:59.700 I want to hear from you who won the debate last night.

00:46:02.580 If you were one of them that could find Superstation WGN, and you watched it on television, I'd like to hear from you.

00:46:12.040 Or if you're a Blaze TV subscriber, it was pretty easy to find it here at Blaze TV.

00:46:16.340 We want to hear, what did you go in with, and what did you come out with?

00:46:20.740 Was anybody's mind changed or solidified?

00:46:25.580 Mine wasn't necessarily changed.

00:46:28.380 Maybe the order, but it was very close in my mind.

00:46:31.440 But it was absolutely solidified last night.

00:46:35.240 Out of the four on the stage, if those were the only four, I know who I would vote for positively, absolutely.

00:46:42.240 And that happened to me last night.

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00:48:05.200 Alright, well, tonight is the first night of Hanukkah.

00:48:09.800 Classic Jewish holiday that answers the age-tested formula. 0.93

00:48:14.620 They tried to kill us.

00:48:16.320 We're still here.

00:48:17.640 Let's have a donut.

00:48:21.360 Yes.

00:48:22.420 Consider it.

00:48:23.340 That's an official description?

00:48:24.860 It is.

00:48:25.260 Well, fried dough, yeah.

00:48:26.720 So, Hanukkah involves eight days of eating large amounts of fried food or fried dough, and that's not a joke, and that's why I'm considering, I don't know, maybe we should put a little more emphasis on the Jewish side of Judeo-Christian.

00:48:42.940 You know, we get doughnuts.

00:48:44.400 Anyway, it's also an odd holiday.

00:48:49.440 Its story has no book.

00:48:51.220 The books of Maccabees exist, but they are not in Jewish canon.

00:48:56.700 They were actually preserved by Christianity, and when locking that canon, the sages apparently felt uncomfortable with the books of Maccabees, not because they weren't relevant, but most likely because they were too relevant.

00:49:12.680 It risked making waves at the time when Jews were again dependent on the mercies of others. 0.86

00:49:19.520 So, on Hanukkah, candles are lit for eight days, and it commemorates the miracle of one day's pure oil burning for eight days, the miracle of the oil.

00:49:34.260 When the Maccabees reconsecrated the temple in Jerusalem, it burned for eight days, but the real story actually has to do with that as much as Christmas has to do with trees and presents, and this relates to everyone, especially those in America today and those in the Western world.

00:49:55.000 So, it takes place in the mid-2nd century BCE, sometime after Alexander the Great, the Greeks were ruling the known world, including the backward corner, still known then as Judea.

00:50:13.180 Polytheistic culture dominated, and first it was just toleration for local religion and custom.

00:50:24.440 And then less and less, until eventually, the local Greek overlords tried to erase Judaism.

00:50:30.780 Oh, again.

00:50:32.580 And they tried to force people to worship idols, and the king thought that everybody ought to worship his idols or die, and that's usually how it runs.

00:50:42.400 First, you're told, you need to tolerate this, and who are you to say otherwise?

00:50:48.940 And if you tolerate them, then we'll tolerate you, I promise, I pinky promise.

00:50:53.200 Then you're told that your god is not really god, and their god is not worse than any other god.

00:51:03.300 Certainly, it's not your intolerant god, so pipe down.

00:51:06.900 Then you're told, bow down to the idol along with everybody else or else.

00:51:11.800 Right? Familiar yet?

00:51:12.920 This happens every time the world tries this.

00:51:17.900 Many of the Jews at the time went along seeking refuge through assimilation into the dominant culture.

00:51:24.640 See Germany as an example.

00:51:27.960 But then some of the extremists went and spoiled the game for everybody.

00:51:32.220 One of the priests said no, and he and his sons took to the hills, starting a hopeless revolt against the mighty Greeks, except it wasn't so hopeless.

00:51:45.120 In the words of the holiday prayer that begins tonight, God gave victory to the few over the many, and the revolt actually succeeded in restoring Jewish sovereignty and the rededication of the temple.

00:51:59.720 For a brief time, the book continues on with a cautionary tale about what happens when too much power is accumulated in one person, even if they start out as noble and a victor for a righteous cause.

00:52:15.040 Here's a hint.

00:52:16.420 A story doesn't end well.

00:52:18.000 Through the centuries now, Jews have correctly, I think, read this story against assimilation into the current dominant culture at the cost of the abandonment of Judaism. 0.97

00:52:34.560 Also, to teach that Jews should stick with God, even when that may be dangerous. 0.90

00:52:41.060 I'm going to show you, if you happen to be watching Blaze TV, I want to show you a very famous picture in a Berlin window.

00:52:50.760 This was taken in 1931, and it's a picture of a menorah in the front of a window.

00:52:58.300 The house is owned by, was owned by a rabbi, and he put the menorah in the front window.

00:53:07.240 Anti-Semitism was starting to run rampant, but he decided, I'm not going to hide my light, and he put his menorah right in the front window.

00:53:15.320 The reason why this picture is very, very famous is because that window faces, in the picture, you'll see a swastika and a banner of the Nazis across the street.

00:53:30.260 It's not just a banner with a swastika across the street, okay?

00:53:35.620 That is the swastika and banner that marked the Nazi headquarters.

00:53:47.180 So this was the headquarters of all the Nazis, and across the street lived a Jew, and he was like, yeah, yeah, it's nice and everything, but I'm not afraid of you.

00:54:00.840 It's an amazing, amazing picture.

00:54:05.440 By the way, on the back of that snapshot, on the original, it says, the flag says death to Judaism. 0.82

00:54:12.440 The light says Judaism will live forever. 1.00

00:54:16.300 It's an amazing picture.

00:54:17.800 Now, Hanukkah is the story, and this is why it's so important to all of us, is the story of the few against the many. 0.94

00:54:28.700 Those who should get crushed like bugs facing down the mighty empire, and somehow or another coming out on top.

00:54:36.420 Why?

00:54:37.360 Because the cause is just, and they stand on the right side.

00:54:41.420 1776, anyone?

00:54:45.720 Rebels against the galactic empire, good versus evil, David versus Goliath.

00:54:50.820 The kind of story that we tell, we seek out again and again and again because it stirs something deep inside all of us.

00:54:59.180 This is our story, or it can be.

00:55:02.200 And it might have to be.

00:55:06.460 The story that tells us, yes, sometimes everyone else can be wrong.

00:55:13.600 That maybe you can be right, even if you're standing all alone and you've scared the piss out of yourself.

00:55:23.460 That just because the majority, even the overwhelming majority goes along, doesn't make it right.

00:55:29.700 The story of Hanukkah is the story of the culture being overtaken by the spirit of the age, which turns out always to be a lie and an evil lie. 0.90

00:55:43.200 It tells us that deep within, we know, all of us know when it's a lie.

00:55:49.260 Deep down, when we're told there's settled consensus or whatever it is.

00:55:55.180 And we're the only primitives to hold out because an unborn baby is not a person.

00:56:02.460 That man is a woman if he says so.

00:56:05.080 You know, there are just too many humans. 0.99

00:56:06.600 We have to get rid of some of the useless ones, you know, for their own good and the good of the planet. 0.97

00:56:12.840 We know deep down when somebody is telling us there is no God, no meaning to your life, only submission.

00:56:19.660 And how do we know it's true?

00:56:24.920 How do we know that's a lie?

00:56:28.680 We know it when we remember the light.

00:56:33.440 The light that Jews all over the world will kindle tonight should speak to us, all of us.

00:56:41.340 Because the light is the refusal to quit.

00:56:47.420 To give up when there's no hope.

00:56:51.360 Even though the darkness is everywhere, you might be the last spark in sight.

00:56:59.160 The last priest who will just not bow down to the idol.

00:57:03.040 The last one who will just not stand aside, won't stand down, won't sit down, won't shut up.

00:57:08.740 Even when told, the alternative is destruction, it's oblivion, it is death.

00:57:15.940 Don't you dare put that candle in that window.

00:57:19.580 Don't you know there are hundreds of Nazis and all of the leaders of the Nazis in the building directly across the street?

00:57:28.660 What are you doing? 0.95

00:57:29.680 You know when somebody says sit down and shut up or we'll destroy you, you know the exact reverse is true. 1.00

00:57:40.960 That giving in means oblivion and death and worse.

00:57:45.420 It means the loss of what is most precious about our existence here on earth.

00:57:50.640 The loss of meaning, the extinction of everything that is true, the desertion of our reason for being to be a light against darkness.

00:58:07.100 To stand for what's good and true.

00:58:09.280 And you know that standing up means life itself, even if others are threatening death.

00:58:18.760 Maybe you'll pay a price.

00:58:22.760 But the spark I bear will always live.

00:58:31.000 This Hanukkah, this holiday season, I rejoice at the opportunity to bear the spark.

00:58:37.820 Now of all times, that spark says, I'm alive, here and now.

00:58:45.740 I'm here precisely to do this, and so are you.

00:58:49.740 That spark that you light will say the same thing.

00:58:53.680 I'm not alone.

00:58:55.200 I have a power that is stronger than all the powers on earth.

00:59:00.000 I know who I am.

00:59:01.980 I know whose light I bear.

00:59:04.360 Every night of Hanukkah, Jews all around the world light one more candle, and the light grows, as if one candle lights up the next, and the next. 0.88

00:59:20.680 As if light and fire, like courage, is contagious.

00:59:26.700 And guess what?

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01:01:41.420 Well, let's go to the phones, 888-727-BECK.

01:01:47.000 Last night, we watched the debate.

01:01:49.420 I thought it was very good.

01:01:50.560 The big winner, I thought, was Megyn Kelly. 1.00

01:01:54.500 She ran the tightest, best debate that we've had out of all four of them.

01:02:01.800 This was by far the best.

01:02:03.060 I think we learned the most from this one.

01:02:05.860 Unfortunately, it was probably the least watched, but I'd like to hear what you went in with,

01:02:12.580 and did your viewpoint solidify or change at all?

01:02:19.680 Let me go to Omar in Washington.

01:02:22.540 Hello, Omar.

01:02:23.940 Hey, Glenn.

01:02:25.040 Good morning.

01:02:25.680 Good.

01:02:25.940 How are you?

01:02:27.100 I'm good.

01:02:28.100 First, I'd like to commend you on your bravery and wearing that wonderful scarf you have on today.

01:02:34.400 Is that brave?

01:02:36.060 Is that brave?

01:02:36.980 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:37.440 Okay, good.

01:02:38.640 Pretty cool.

01:02:39.280 All right.

01:02:39.640 Thank you.

01:02:40.180 Second, I just want to say that I really thought that he took it.

01:02:44.940 He really spoke to a lot of things that I think the corporate media is just not paying any attention to.

01:02:52.440 I think he really resonated with a lot of people, even though the media won't ever actually come out and say that.

01:02:59.480 Yes.

01:03:00.400 Well, they actually came out.

01:03:02.200 I think it was the New York Times that said, you know, he's crazy and, you know, he was into conspiracy theories.

01:03:09.540 Let me get play cut 19, please.

01:03:11.480 Oh, let's not do this again.

01:03:15.580 Cut 19.

01:03:16.660 Do we have it?

01:03:17.200 I think the real enemy is not Donald Trump.

01:03:19.460 It's not even Joe Biden.

01:03:20.900 It is the deep state that at least Donald Trump attempted to take on.

01:03:24.800 And if you want somebody who's going to speak truth to power, then vote for somebody who's going to speak the truth to you.

01:03:30.240 Why am I the only person on the stage, at least, who can say that January 6th now does look like it was an inside job, that the government lied to us for 20 years about Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11, that the great replacement theory is not some grand right wing conspiracy theory,

01:03:46.540 but a basic statement of the Democratic Party's platform, that the 2020 election was indeed stolen by big tech, that the 2016 election, the one that Trump won for sure, was also one that was stolen from him by the national security establishment.

01:04:03.260 That actually put up the Trump-Russia collusion hoax that they knew was false.

01:04:06.940 There's a reason why I'm the only person on the stage who can say these things.

01:04:11.000 That's what it's going to take, not people who were licking his boots one time and now Monday morning quarterbacking and criticizing when it's convenient.

01:04:18.000 That was a very bold statement, I thought.

01:04:22.940 A very bold statement.

01:04:24.060 Is that what you're talking about, Omar?

01:04:26.580 Yes, absolutely.

01:04:27.700 He really didn't pull any punches and he really took it to the people who needed to hear that.

01:04:34.720 Thank you so much, Omar.

01:04:35.920 I appreciate it.

01:04:36.560 You know, look, I like Vivek.

01:04:38.840 We've had him on the show a bunch of times, you know, but he has a weird 9-11 hang up that bothers me.

01:04:46.160 I don't, he's brought it up a bunch of times.

01:04:48.040 Who's talking about 9-11 right now?

01:04:49.980 He keeps bringing it up.

01:04:51.020 You know, he has done this several times.

01:04:54.220 I don't know that he's even saying what he actually believes.

01:04:58.020 It seems like it's more than he's saying.

01:04:59.940 So he goes, he not only goes on Alex Jones's show, but then has Alex Jones come on his show.

01:05:05.980 All right.

01:05:06.440 So hang on just a second.

01:05:07.660 I don't know.

01:05:08.240 What is he saying though?

01:05:09.660 Tell me, give me a list.

01:05:11.200 Wait, wait, give me a list of what he just said.

01:05:13.520 What were the things he just said?

01:05:14.860 I mean, you listen to the same clip I have, but January 6th was an inside job.

01:05:19.600 Yep.

01:05:19.840 Which again, we can talk about that one if you want, but 9-11, the government lied to

01:05:25.760 us for 20 years about Saudi Arabia's rule.

01:05:27.440 Now that statement in and of itself is a defensible statement.

01:05:31.440 Hang on.

01:05:31.840 That the high tech system was the one that hijacked 2020.

01:05:36.440 Yeah, that was carefully worded.

01:05:37.760 The stolen 2020 election carefully worded.

01:05:39.740 And that the, the Intel agency actually was the one that stole the presidency on a legitimate

01:05:47.400 election.

01:05:47.960 Okay.

01:05:48.520 All he's saying is the same thing over and over again.

01:05:52.080 The Intel deep state is out of control and they've been doing it for a long time.

01:05:58.600 And it's time to clean that up.

01:06:00.640 That's how I read that.

01:06:01.880 I don't read that as, oh, I got to bring up 9-11.

01:06:05.260 I bring it as Intel is out of control.

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01:07:41.160 Megan Kelly is trying to get home to New York for her broadcast today.

01:07:47.680 So she's on a plane.

01:07:48.980 If her plane happens to arrive, she may pop on in the show today.

01:07:53.500 You know, the left is trying to make, in fact, I saw on MSNBC today, the formula for the authoritarian

01:08:04.140 right, and they're trying to make everybody that is on the right into some sort of fascist.

01:08:13.900 But let me give you a poll here.

01:08:17.300 Majority of voters now prefer the Reagan model of Reaganomics to Biden's.

01:08:23.620 This is the latest Rasmussen report.

01:08:25.660 By a 50 to 38 margin, likely voters say they prefer a smaller government with fewer services

01:08:33.500 and lower taxes.

01:08:34.920 Now, the reason why this is important is if you want a small government, you can't be a

01:08:43.140 fascist because a small government won't have the controls that a large government has.

01:08:50.480 When asked, does the government spend taxpayers' money wisely and carefully, 72% say no, 16%

01:08:58.520 say yes.

01:08:59.720 And by a 14-point margin, most voters still prefer limited government.

01:09:05.980 Republican voters, 74% overwhelmingly prefer a small government with fewer services and lower

01:09:12.140 taxes, as do 30% of the Democrats.

01:09:15.440 Listen to that.

01:09:16.100 74% of the Republicans, 74%, smaller government.

01:09:21.580 Small government for the Democrats, 30%.

01:09:24.520 And those who are independent, 55%.

01:09:28.420 Majority of Democrats, 58%, prefer a more active government with more services and higher

01:09:34.980 taxes, as do 21% of the Republicans and 32% of unaffiliated voters.

01:09:40.820 Democrats, 31% are much more likely than Republicans, 10% and unaffiliated voters, 6% to say government

01:09:49.620 spends taxpayer money wisely and carefully.

01:09:53.920 I'm shocked that those numbers are that high.

01:09:58.620 We go to Megan Kelly, who is calling us, I think, probably from the airport.

01:10:03.540 Hi, Megan.

01:10:05.060 Hi, Glenn.

01:10:05.740 How are you?

01:10:07.300 I'm great.

01:10:07.900 I'm retired, but good.

01:10:09.120 I bet you are.

01:10:09.720 Last night, I said, when I first got on today, that the big winner last night, I thought

01:10:14.900 was you.

01:10:16.740 You were spot on.

01:10:19.660 You asked really tough questions, but you phrased them in a way that conservatives, you

01:10:25.500 know, want to ask them.

01:10:27.500 I thought you were fair, tough.

01:10:29.440 And when you said, nobody can hear any of you, everybody shut up.

01:10:34.100 You ran a tight ship.

01:10:35.460 You did a fantastic job last night.

01:10:37.800 Thank you so much, Glenn.

01:10:40.220 You know, for me, watching some of the earlier debates was very frustrating because I knew

01:10:45.860 that there was a way of controlling them.

01:10:48.680 You know, it was clear to me there was a way of controlling them.

01:10:51.720 And if you, I have a rapport with all of these guys, same as you do.

01:10:55.140 You know what I mean?

01:10:55.540 They know you.

01:10:56.680 If you were out there, they would respect you.

01:10:58.740 They know you don't hate them.

01:11:00.460 You're not trying to hurt them.

01:11:01.920 You're trying to foster a great debate, good TV.

01:11:05.420 And so when we had that opening exchange, for me, it was fun because it was kind of like

01:11:10.680 what I imagined it's like to be in the NBA where you're kind of passing the ball behind

01:11:16.360 your back and somebody catches it with ease and they go.

01:11:19.280 Like, we kind of got into a rhythm where I'm like, you go and you go and we'd make eye

01:11:23.140 contact.

01:11:23.420 Like, I'm coming to you.

01:11:25.000 And that's what I hated about the NBC debate is they just, they didn't let the candidates

01:11:29.960 debate each other.

01:11:30.940 I don't want to hear a Kristen Welker interview of Nikki Haley.

01:11:34.980 Yes.

01:11:35.320 I want the other candidates to talk to Nikki Haley.

01:11:38.160 So anyway, thank you for saying that.

01:11:39.980 It was a relief for me to get out there and let them, let them let it rip.

01:11:44.000 So who did you think was the big winner and the big loser?

01:11:49.320 Well, I mean, with all respect to her, I thought Nikki Haley lost last night because

01:11:54.060 she shrunk away.

01:11:55.920 Like she was not really a presence and she's been increasing her poll numbers by getting

01:12:02.060 out there and being pugilistic.

01:12:03.180 And that version of her did not appear on the stage last night.

01:12:06.700 Um, I thought Ramaswamy, if you didn't like him, he became even more unlikable to you.

01:12:11.020 If you love him, he became even more level to you.

01:12:13.820 I thought Ron DeSantis had his best debate yet.

01:12:17.500 Um, and so I think you could probably say he's the winner because he's in the best poll position

01:12:21.420 of the four and he not only didn't hurt himself, although there was one bad exchange, um, he

01:12:27.560 didn't hurt himself.

01:12:28.420 He actually did help himself.

01:12:29.620 He was tougher than we've seen.

01:12:31.280 And I think that's the DeSantis we, we fell in love with back when, you know, he was battling

01:12:35.840 nasty reporters during COVID.

01:12:38.400 Chris Christie, look, same, same rule for him as the vague. 0.72

01:12:41.420 If you're one of the 25% of Republicans who likes Chris Christie, you probably said, yeah,

01:12:46.020 good. 0.92

01:12:46.360 You know, screw Trump. 0.99

01:12:47.700 He did his thing. 0.98

01:12:48.780 You know, we're on team Christie.

01:12:50.300 And if you are one of the 75% who doesn't like him, you probably enjoyed watching some

01:12:55.160 of the other candidates get into it with him.

01:12:56.800 And some of the questions that the moderators had.

01:12:58.660 I have to tell you, we were watching it as a team last night and we all cheered when you,

01:13:04.380 when you went to Chris Christie on transgenderism, we were like, oh, this is going to be good. 1.00

01:13:09.760 This is going to be good.

01:13:10.740 Oh, you know, I, can I tell you, like, and he tried to tell me that I didn't have my

01:13:17.320 facts right on my second question.

01:13:18.620 And of course I did.

01:13:20.560 And he was misleading, but those are the two questions I showed up to ask Glenn.

01:13:25.520 I'm like, you know how much work goes into these things, right?

01:13:28.720 Every single question we ask takes hours.

01:13:31.360 And in some cases days, you know, you have to research so much and then you craft it and

01:13:36.140 you recraft it and so on and so forth.

01:13:37.540 And as you know, this is an issue that's near and dear, not only to my heart, but to

01:13:41.760 most conservatives hearts.

01:13:43.640 And he's been so weak on it.

01:13:46.020 He, he is too radical on this issue to be the Republican nominee.

01:13:50.820 In my view, this is way out of step with where the Republican party is.

01:13:55.260 And, um, it's, it's, it was the one reason I wanted him to make the debate.

01:13:59.780 I prayed, I prayed to the God, God and all the angels above, please, please let him make

01:14:06.800 last night.

01:14:10.240 I thought there was one weird moment with Chris Christie.

01:14:13.520 And I think it really did not look good for, um, uh, for Nikki Haley.

01:14:21.920 When Chris Christie came out and tried to defend her, I, I, that was nice and everything, but

01:14:27.480 I think she should have turned and said, I don't need a man's help here. 0.93

01:14:32.500 I'm fine.

01:14:33.220 I don't need anybody's help.

01:14:34.420 I can defend myself.

01:14:35.880 The way she kind of looked down as he was saying that I thought it made it look, uh, made

01:14:41.180 her look weak.

01:14:41.860 And she's not a weak woman.

01:14:43.660 It was her lowest moment.

01:14:46.140 And I got to give credit to Chris Steyerwalt because he had said to me, here's my prediction.

01:14:53.580 Um, Chris Christie's going to try to white knight Nikki Haley and man, he was right.

01:14:58.400 And she did look weak.

01:14:59.900 I felt like, you know, she's been so strong at these debates in terms of defending herself

01:15:04.360 and attacking others.

01:15:05.200 And of all moments she should have put her hand out and she should have said, Chris, I

01:15:10.020 appreciate the help, but I got this and then defended herself. 1.00

01:15:13.920 And I could only conclude, was it because she was shaky on the Ukraine, you know, counties

01:15:20.120 like the, the provinces I could, she did eventually come up with a few.

01:15:24.080 I, I couldn't read it.

01:15:25.600 Like maybe she doesn't know the answer and she's stalling or she just wants to pass because

01:15:30.100 I read that moment for her.

01:15:32.420 I read that moment with the three provinces is, wait a minute, I know them, but are they

01:15:36.860 provinces or regions or those cities, you know, just that, that moment of hesitation where

01:15:41.940 you don't want to get it wrong.

01:15:43.200 And then that moment just passed her.

01:15:45.360 And then, and then she came in, unfortunately for her, when everyone was talking and nobody

01:15:51.300 really heard her give the answer.

01:15:53.440 And I still don't, cause I didn't hear all of them.

01:15:55.840 I don't know if she was right or wrong.

01:15:57.820 I know.

01:15:58.500 The only one I heard is cry me out.

01:16:00.140 I'm like, Oh, we all know that one.

01:16:01.520 Yeah.

01:16:02.040 Right.

01:16:02.580 Right.

01:16:04.540 So it is awkward.

01:16:06.160 It could be if, if the body language were different, it could be the power move to not 0.96

01:16:12.780 take your opponent's little test, you know, like I can see that being like, screw you. 0.87

01:16:18.700 I don't, I don't take your little exams. 0.63

01:16:20.480 You're not at Harvard anymore, but her body language was not projecting.

01:16:25.220 I am confident and I am dismissing this twerp.

01:16:28.600 It projected.

01:16:30.000 I have no idea.

01:16:31.320 Help me.

01:16:32.320 So that was not her finest moment.

01:16:34.880 And I do think, I bet you there's going to be a little movement in the polls after this

01:16:38.700 because DeSantis, you know, it was like, it was the guy we kind of thought he could be.

01:16:43.680 And it wasn't in any way set up like this, but DeSantis had issues that are important

01:16:51.180 to him brought up last night.

01:16:53.720 And it's not like we said, Oh, let's, let's bring these up for honest.

01:16:55.980 We brought these issues up because conservatives care about these issues.

01:16:58.480 Yes.

01:16:59.140 Trans vaccine injury, COVID. 0.62

01:17:01.380 Um, and he was very strong on those.

01:17:04.720 He hasn't really had a chance to speak to a lot of these issues in the last debates because

01:17:08.800 you got the Univision anchor out there talking about the dreamers.

01:17:12.280 Right.

01:17:13.120 Right.

01:17:13.820 Uh, Megan, I agree.

01:17:14.940 I thought DeSantis was really good last night.

01:17:16.760 What did you make of the one exchange where he wouldn't say whether he thought Trump was

01:17:21.500 fit to be president or not?

01:17:22.820 That was the one moment where it seemed, it was, it was very strange to me.

01:17:26.560 Did you think he wanted to say, no, he's not fit?

01:17:30.900 Did you think he wanted to say yes?

01:17:32.360 He was trying to walk the line.

01:17:33.660 What was he doing there?

01:17:34.980 Yeah.

01:17:35.380 I mean, that was the, when I said he did great, except for one moment, that was the moment.

01:17:39.200 Um, he did not handle that well.

01:17:40.800 And I got to give credit where it's due.

01:17:42.820 Chris Christie is great at that kind of thing.

01:17:46.160 He didn't answer it like forensically diagnosing somebody's bad answer.

01:17:51.020 There's no one better than Chris Christie at it.

01:17:53.060 And he, he honed in on him and it was uncomfortable.

01:17:55.720 DeSantis doesn't want to make news.

01:17:58.480 He doesn't want to alienate the Trump base with a big headline from him saying Trump is

01:18:03.000 unfit.

01:18:03.740 So he was, you know, why not say right now he's fit?

01:18:09.920 He doesn't want to say that either.

01:18:11.480 He doesn't believe it.

01:18:12.720 And I think he understands that there's a certain psychology within the Republican party

01:18:17.700 that is recognizing the two people likely to be the nominees are too old and they are

01:18:22.480 really not as fit as we'd like them to be.

01:18:24.280 Either one of them, let's face it.

01:18:25.720 And, uh, so do you think that, hang on just a second?

01:18:30.400 We, cause I think I would love for the Nancy Pelosi generation to sit down and, and retire.

01:18:38.100 Okay.

01:18:38.660 Uh, let the younger generation now take this.

01:18:41.800 Um, however, uh, do you think that Donald Trump has faded from where he was in 2020?

01:18:52.060 Yeah, I do.

01:18:55.780 I mean, I take him over Joe Biden any day of the week.

01:18:58.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:18:59.120 I don't think he's going to, you know, fill out this term, nevermind a second, but there's

01:19:03.060 no question.

01:19:03.540 Trump has lost a step or multiple steps.

01:19:06.860 He is confusing Joe Biden for Obama.

01:19:09.560 I know he's now saying he intentionally did that.

01:19:11.940 Go back and look at the clips.

01:19:13.140 It wasn't intentional.

01:19:14.360 It was very, look, any of us could have a slip of the tongue, but it's happening to

01:19:17.920 him repeatedly.

01:19:18.840 The reference about how somebody is going to get us into world war two, um, confusing

01:19:24.620 countries, confusing cities where he is.

01:19:26.840 It's happening more and more with all due respect to Trump.

01:19:29.360 Well, this is what happens when you're 77 years old.

01:19:32.200 Yeah.

01:19:32.480 Trump seems inhuman, but he's not inhuman.

01:19:35.520 He's a human.

01:19:36.240 He's a, he's a man.

01:19:37.680 DeSantis is lying about father time, spares no one was a good one.

01:19:41.560 Um, so look, if it's between Trump and Biden, I don't think there's any questions who's more

01:19:45.200 fit and who capable, but are we really going to pretend that Donald Trump is just as vibrant

01:19:51.080 and mentally sharp as he was in 16.

01:19:54.760 Okay.

01:19:55.200 I only have about 70 or 80 seconds here for this, but do you think Trump is going to jail?

01:20:03.860 I'm starting to worry.

01:20:05.720 Um, I didn't, he's definitely going to get convicted in multiple, uh, jurisdictions, but

01:20:12.620 Andy McCarthy, who's very smart on these things was pointing out that judge Chutkin in DC in the

01:20:18.500 federal case on, um, J six.

01:20:20.420 Yeah.

01:20:21.360 You know, he, she hates him that everybody knows that in DC, the jury's going to hate

01:20:25.140 him that he thinks there's a, there's some pretty good odds.

01:20:29.640 She will not release him from jail pending appeal after his likely.

01:20:35.420 So what does that do to the system?

01:20:40.220 Glenn, that's why we have to have an undercard.

01:20:43.580 Yeah, no, I agree with that.

01:20:44.880 I agree with that.

01:20:46.060 I, they, they, they got to run all the way to the end.

01:20:49.200 Somebody has got to run all the way to the end.

01:20:51.220 We have to have an undercard, but I mean, that is going to, that's just chaos in the

01:20:56.700 streets.

01:20:57.520 Oh yeah.

01:20:57.960 There were, America will burn if they put Trump in jail before this election.

01:21:03.420 God help us.

01:21:04.140 It will burn.

01:21:04.180 And I don't want it.

01:21:05.840 I just see the reality the same as you do.

01:21:08.500 And we are going to be the national guard city to city.

01:21:11.940 You know, MAGA is going to rise up and there will be a lot of sympathizers who understand

01:21:17.640 it and don't try to stop it.

01:21:19.040 It's this woman cannot be allowed to do that. 1.00

01:21:23.260 All right.

01:21:23.820 Thank you very much, Megan.

01:21:25.060 Best of, uh, best of luck to you today.

01:21:27.000 And again, great job last night.

01:21:29.300 Thank you for bringing a reasonable debate to America.

01:21:33.020 Appreciate it.

01:21:33.660 Thank you so much, Glenn.

01:21:34.640 Great to see you too, Stu.

01:21:36.020 All the best.

01:21:36.680 Don't give him any love.

01:21:38.860 I love Stu.

01:21:39.600 Yes.

01:21:39.980 Who does America? 1.00

01:21:40.580 Get off my phone, Megan.

01:21:45.980 All right.

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01:25:02.420 Let me go to Laura.

01:25:03.340 Laura.

01:25:04.360 Sorry.

01:25:05.160 Lori in New Mexico.

01:25:07.260 Hello, Lori.

01:25:08.180 Hi.

01:25:08.800 Hi, Glenn.

01:25:09.820 How are you?

01:25:10.400 Very good.

01:25:11.120 What did you think last night?

01:25:12.360 What did you go going into it?

01:25:14.500 Who were you for?

01:25:15.480 And did anything change?

01:25:16.960 I'm, I've, I've, I've always been around the Santa's person.

01:25:20.940 Always, always, always, always, always.

01:25:23.380 Um, and, uh, I thought last night that Chris Christie might've farted and blew Nikki Healy

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01:25:29.960 So, I mean, every time they did, they did a side shot of him, I was so afraid.

01:25:36.340 That was unfortunate camera work.

01:25:38.240 It was.

01:25:38.760 It was. 0.89

01:25:39.480 As a fat man, I don't appreciate that.

01:25:41.760 Uh, but, uh, uh, thank you so much.

01:25:46.140 I, I appreciate your, uh, phone call.

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01:28:06.820 Uh, also this week, we haven't had a lot of time to talk about what the FBI is doing,

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01:30:02.880 Well, let me say hello to a couple of people.

01:30:07.020 Alex Torres, he was a former speechwriter for, uh, President Trump and my good friend

01:30:12.080 and former co-author Joshua Charles, uh, he is also a former White House speechwriter

01:30:17.700 and he is the, uh, co-author of Original Argument, the Federalist Case for the Constitution,

01:30:24.820 adapted for the 20th century, which is something we put out.

01:30:27.420 I don't even know.

01:30:28.060 Joshua, how long ago was that?

01:30:29.500 That was 2008?

01:30:30.660 Nine?

01:30:31.440 2011.

01:30:31.880 That was over 12 years ago, Glenn.

01:30:33.820 Wow, yeah.

01:30:34.540 Thank you again for the opportunity.

01:30:36.260 It did a lot of things.

01:30:37.420 Thank you.

01:30:37.940 You're extraordinarily talented.

01:30:40.500 So, guys, tell me, and I guess, Alec, if you want to start, tell me about Persecuted

01:30:46.140 From Within.

01:30:48.220 Yeah, Persecuted From Within is a book that's, uh, really rooted in something that Josh and

01:30:52.860 I were noticing, that if you're a good, faithful, traditional Catholic, even just a good, faithful,

01:30:56.800 traditional Christian, all around you, people are, you're under attack.

01:31:00.280 People don't like you.

01:31:01.620 The state doesn't like you.

01:31:02.660 And frankly, we saw in our own church, a lot of people in our church don't like us, and

01:31:06.820 they're trying to crush us.

01:31:08.300 So, uh, we wanted to know how to respond to that.

01:31:10.560 We wanted to figure out how do you act as a good Christian, a good person of faith, in

01:31:15.460 response to institutions that you love persecuting you.

01:31:19.680 Uh, and we thought of a better way to do that than to look at great historical figures, really

01:31:23.780 monumental Christians from the past who had to live under, uh, pretty terrible circumstances, 1.00

01:31:29.080 frankly, circumstances that are oftentimes worse than our own, uh, and learn the lesson

01:31:33.460 straight from that.

01:31:34.960 Uh, one of my, you cover one of my favorite guys, Fulton Sheen, uh, the archbishop, uh,

01:31:40.480 from New York, who I, I didn't know about growing up.

01:31:44.000 I found out about him probably in 2008, and I just think he's one of the greatest guys

01:31:48.260 ever.

01:31:49.160 Uh, I don't think of him as persecuted, but he's a part of the book.

01:31:53.460 How do you, how do you look at him?

01:31:55.860 And what did you learn from him?

01:31:59.080 Well, he was persecuted in a way that was a little, uh, hidden.

01:32:02.920 Um, what happened with him was that his cardinal at the time, it was just this interpersonal

01:32:07.180 dispute.

01:32:07.920 Uh, Bishop Sheen was in charge of distributing, uh, charity to the poor and Spelman gave him a

01:32:13.220 bunch of driving from the government that he got for free to distribute to the poor.

01:32:16.840 And when Sheen, uh, Spelman asked Sheen to pay for it, and Sheen said no.

01:32:21.580 So, uh, you know, you think it's a, that's a small matter, but it, it, it actually made

01:32:25.560 the cardinal livid against Sheen, and he vowed revenge, uh, moved him out of his position,

01:32:31.380 cut him off from his TV program, and sent him off to work in Rochester.

01:32:34.980 He was totally ill-suited for his role, uh, but he had to do it because it was his boss,

01:32:39.340 essentially, you know, he was under the cardinal, and he, he had to submit.

01:32:42.480 So he looked like this great figure, really had a golden touch, media personality, invited

01:32:46.800 to these big events in New York, and then boom, pretty much a failure when he was sent

01:32:51.600 over to Rochester, all because he refused to take money from the poor and give it to

01:32:56.060 his boss.

01:32:57.280 You, you know, um, Joshua, you, you're having this, um, persecution.

01:33:03.360 A lot of people are questioning the way their churches are behaving, uh, because we're in

01:33:09.340 a time of great change, and I think most of our churches have gotten fat and sassy and,

01:33:14.040 uh, you know, are too timid to take on the real gospel truth and how it applies in our

01:33:20.600 lives.

01:33:21.260 And so a lot of people in a lot of, uh, faiths are having this problem.

01:33:25.460 In, in the Catholic Church, you just had something unheard of happen here in Texas where the Pope

01:33:33.620 got involved and kicked somebody out.

01:33:39.140 Yeah, Bishop Strickland, who is actually a friend of mine, uh, right before COVID, I was

01:33:45.960 able to spend some time with Bishop Strickland in what we Catholics call Eucharistic adoration,

01:33:51.040 where we pray before what we believe is, uh, the body, blood, soul, and divinity of our Lord

01:33:55.400 in the Eucharist.

01:33:56.160 And we did that for what's called a holy hour, and, and I'll just say the bishop's the real

01:34:00.780 deal.

01:34:01.200 We went to dinner.

01:34:02.060 He, he wears, he wears his garments everywhere he goes.

01:34:05.380 He's, um, he's a, he's a humble shepherd of the Lord, and I think in his reaction to

01:34:10.400 the situation, we see how many of the saints that Alec and I write about in this book reacted,

01:34:16.020 and we, we cover about, you know, 2,000 years worth of saints.

01:34:19.820 And, um, Bishop Strickland has asked Catholics, they've, he's asked them pray for Pope Francis.

01:34:25.140 He's asked them to not engage in reviling, but he's also spoken the truth about, um, some

01:34:31.820 of the issues that are going on in the church.

01:34:33.860 And frankly, that's the sort of behavior that many of the saints engaged in, in this

01:34:38.780 book.

01:34:39.200 Uh, one that comes to mind is St. Athanasius, who was a great Bishop of Alexandria.

01:34:44.420 He was reviled and booted from his diocese multiple times.

01:34:48.680 He was exiled five times from Alexandria.

01:34:51.580 There was one time some soldiers were coming to pick him up that had been sent by the emperor,

01:34:55.140 who was coordinating with some Arian bishops, and he just barely made it out.

01:35:00.040 He basically covered his face and snuck through a crowd and escaped.

01:35:03.840 And so there's some pretty harrowing stories.

01:35:05.700 And Athanasius, um, had to, it was, the phrase was Athanasius Contramundum, Athanasius against

01:35:11.240 the world.

01:35:12.280 Um, and he, he found support in Rome, um, and, and in other parts of the world, particularly

01:35:17.800 in the West.

01:35:18.380 But he, he stood firmly for the truth unwaveringly, but to do so, he had to experience persecution

01:35:25.040 from within the family, as we say.

01:35:27.120 And that's one of the great lessons of these saints is that to follow Jesus, Jesus says

01:35:31.440 we must take up our cross.

01:35:32.660 And the cross includes not only being attacked from external enemies, you know, pagans and

01:35:37.800 heathens and whatnot, but from members of the family, so to speak, uh, within the church

01:35:42.140 as well, as Jesus himself was, from Judas and the denial of Peter, and, uh, and many

01:35:48.120 of the problems that the apostles addressed in the early church.

01:35:50.520 There's all sorts of issues.

01:35:52.280 Those issues have never changed.

01:35:53.620 But, um, many of these great saints face, as Alec mentioned, challenges that many of us,

01:35:58.620 uh, couldn't even imagine.

01:36:00.100 I think we're in a very trying time period, don't get me wrong.

01:36:03.920 Um, but many of them, you know, Joan of Arc, for example, she's covered in this book.

01:36:07.720 Uh, she was a lay woman and she was killed. 0.96

01:36:10.500 She, she was unjustly, uh, brought to a trial, uh, her canonical rights to appeal to the Pope,

01:36:17.900 for example, were denied.

01:36:19.620 And as a result, she was executed, but she went to her execution, faithful, praying to

01:36:25.240 God, um, and, and she remained, uh, Catholic.

01:36:28.780 And so, um, you know, that, that's the great story of these saints is that they do things

01:36:33.920 that are quite literally otherworldly.

01:36:36.080 And I think that's what was so, so inspiring.

01:36:38.300 It's like either this Christianity thing, um, is a complete fraud or it's otherworldly. 1.00

01:36:44.580 And it actually gives its followers, um, something that they could never give themselves.

01:36:49.480 And that's this peace.

01:36:50.420 And that's this, uh, sense of fortitude in the face of extraordinary persecution and, uh,

01:36:56.360 and the saints by, by engaging in this, by suffering it, they find the humility that

01:37:01.440 ultimately, uh, takes us to heaven, frankly.

01:37:03.660 So I was just talking to Megan Kelly and I, I, you know, I don't think that I could be

01:37:10.000 wrong.

01:37:10.500 Um, but I don't think that you guys wrote this, um, because of the persecution that's going

01:37:17.580 on right now.

01:37:18.320 I have a feeling that you're thinking that it's going to get much, much worse.

01:37:22.460 I could be wrong.

01:37:23.300 And I'd love to hear your opinion.

01:37:24.460 I think so.

01:37:25.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

01:37:27.300 So, um, Megan and I were talking about, you know, what's coming and they put Donald Trump

01:37:32.600 in jail or whatever.

01:37:34.080 There is a, there is going to be a moment where people have had enough.

01:37:39.160 And, uh, when that happens, persecution and the government will just come down hard.

01:37:46.420 So what is the, what is the, the things that we can pull from your book that tells us what

01:37:53.460 to do and what not to do?

01:37:56.580 I think in, when we're facing, you know, a lot of institutions turning against us, perhaps

01:38:01.860 most terrifyingly, our government here in America, because the amount of power that it

01:38:05.760 has, and we've seen attacks on religious people, especially Catholics, uh, even just

01:38:10.220 within the past few weeks, frankly, it's, uh, it's holding onto the truth, especially the

01:38:15.780 truth of our faith matters more than anything else that gives strength that can overcome

01:38:20.240 any of these difficulties.

01:38:21.500 When other people are crumbling or being manipulated or, or falling to the wayside, it's our faith

01:38:27.640 that allows us to be able to get through even grave difficulties and circumstances we've

01:38:33.160 really never had to experience in our generations and make it through in the end.

01:38:37.320 Uh, the same time and time again, when it looked like their circumstances were dire, when

01:38:41.480 they themselves were imprisoned or martyred or, uh, you know, shut up.

01:38:45.600 Away from the public sphere without, you know, had their rights to speak, uh, their liberties

01:38:49.620 taken away from them, they really did cling to their faith and God saw them through.

01:38:54.840 That's what's so wonderful about these stories.

01:38:56.600 You think looking at the history of persecution of great Christians would be a depressing subject,

01:39:00.900 but in a way it's actually quite inspiring because you can see their strength and how

01:39:05.740 we can imitate that, and you can see how God is always with his people.

01:39:10.300 When you're faithful to God, God is faithful in greater abundance than we could ever know.

01:39:14.260 What do you guys think we're, we're facing, especially as Catholics?

01:39:19.280 You, you guys are, I mean, I, we have a Catholic president, the only, the second time, um, in

01:39:25.820 history, last time we had one was, and the first time was JFK.

01:39:29.740 Um, and now we have a, a Catholic president who seems to be going after the Catholics.

01:39:36.980 It's bizarre.

01:39:39.720 Well, Glenn, this is a topic I've been pondering for, really, since COVID.

01:39:44.700 Uh, I came into the Catholic Church in July 2019, and then, so my first Easter was, uh,

01:39:50.540 in 2020.

01:39:51.960 And, you know, we, we know that that was a somewhat eventful year.

01:39:55.020 Uh, and masses around the world were canceled for Easter.

01:39:58.500 And, uh, what I discovered in the, in the church fathers and in many of these great saints

01:40:03.060 is this articulation of this idea, as I said before, that persecution comes not only from

01:40:07.760 the outside, but from within.

01:40:09.480 And as we all know, those of us who've had any family issues, which I'm sure is pretty

01:40:13.340 much all of us, um, that's the hardest thing to deal with, but that's exactly what these

01:40:17.440 saints dealt with.

01:40:18.140 And frankly, um, you know, President Biden, uh, I hope he repents.

01:40:23.780 I hope he comes back to the faith.

01:40:25.260 He's, he's clearly violating it.

01:40:27.160 And frankly, we have many shepherds who aren't calling him on it and they'll be, they'll be

01:40:32.100 held to a very high standard at the day of judgment.

01:40:35.000 We Catholics believe that every single one of us will have to answer for what we did and

01:40:38.600 what we failed to do to Jesus Christ at the day of judgment.

01:40:42.020 And the people who have the highest standard for behavior will be bishops, will be priests,

01:40:46.820 and will be the Pope.

01:40:48.620 And, um, you know, the Pope has to go to confession.

01:40:51.040 Bishops have to go to confession.

01:40:52.780 Uh, and to the extent that they fail to amend their conduct, uh, before they die, they're

01:40:57.180 going to have to answer to the biggest boss.

01:40:58.920 And so, um, but what we saw with all these saints is that the subtitle of the book is called

01:41:03.500 How the Saints Endured Crises in the Church.

01:41:06.240 And, um, I, I will say that there is this idea that, um, there's this Judas element within

01:41:11.980 the church throughout its entire history, throughout its entire history.

01:41:15.420 It can't go away.

01:41:17.380 Um, it will be resolved, but when Jesus comes back, and Jesus warned about it, the apostles

01:41:21.580 warned about it, um, some have called it, uh, the anti-church, and it's basically this

01:41:26.880 dark side of the church.

01:41:28.100 And these saints exhibit an astounding level of humility when they're faced with this kind

01:41:34.740 of persecution.

01:41:35.420 So, for example, um, I joked with some of my White House colleagues that, uh, the thing 0.90

01:41:40.440 that sucks about being Catholic is we can't complain about suffering.

01:41:43.160 And what I meant is, there's this idea in the Catholic faith of redemptive suffering. 0.95

01:41:49.400 And the idea is that through his cross, prior to the Lord's cross and his death and resurrection,

01:41:55.820 suffering was basically meaningless.

01:41:57.800 It was just futile.

01:41:58.800 It was the effect of the fall and whatnot.

01:42:00.960 But after the cross, every single human being, if they follow Christ, can join their suffering

01:42:07.260 to his, and it becomes fruitful.

01:42:10.080 It becomes fruitful for the salvation of others.

01:42:12.440 It becomes fruitful for the salvation of their own soul.

01:42:15.220 And so literally everything that would have been futile and meaningless, which suffering

01:42:19.260 oftentimes feels like, through Christ and his suffering, uh, becomes meaningful.

01:42:25.020 And that's what so many of these saints show.

01:42:27.040 You know, Stephen Colbert, I don't think he's the most, um, the paradigm of a Orthodox Catholic,

01:42:32.160 per se, but he had this beautiful line in an interview with Anderson Cooper, where Anderson

01:42:36.960 Cooper was mentioning all these horrible tragedies that happened to him.

01:42:40.780 And he basically said, how'd you get through it?

01:42:42.800 And Stephen Colbert said that in the Catholic faith, God does it too.

01:42:47.520 And that's essentially what you see in the lives of all these saints with Athanasius and

01:42:51.900 St. Thomas More.

01:42:53.240 And they were laymen, they were priests, they were bishops, they were monks and nuns.

01:42:57.360 So they come from all sorts of walks of life.

01:42:59.860 Um, sometimes they're having to criticize popes.

01:43:02.800 Sometimes they're having to be, um, you know, persecuted by their bishops or their

01:43:06.880 cardinals, as Alec talked about with Venerable Fulton Sheen.

01:43:09.720 Uh, sometimes they're literally being executed or like St.

01:43:12.840 Joan of Arc, or they're being exiled from their diocese and on the run, like St.

01:43:18.000 Athanasius.

01:43:19.080 Um, so they're dealing with all these things, but they, but they know they can join their

01:43:23.200 sufferings to Christ.

01:43:24.120 And these saints to this day, we believe are in heaven, praying for all of us, reaping,

01:43:29.220 uh, the most possible fruit a human being can ever reap, um, for the salvation of the

01:43:34.420 world.

01:43:34.760 And that's what their suffering did by joining it to Christ.

01:43:37.680 Joshua, thank you so much.

01:43:38.980 Alex, the same, uh, the name of the book is Persecuted From Within, uh, written for

01:43:44.720 Catholics, but I don't think it's probably just for Catholics.

01:43:47.220 Uh, it is for everybody, and I think we all need to look at how we are going to behave

01:43:54.660 in times of persecution, because I do believe it is coming.

01:43:59.400 Again, persecuted from within.

01:44:02.100 Thank you so much, guys.

01:44:03.280 God bless.

01:44:04.320 Thank you, Glenn.

01:44:04.960 Thank you so much.

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01:46:34.380 That's fascistic.

01:46:35.880 Just want to let you know, that is fascistic.

01:46:41.180 I just, I mean, I've never heard so many attacks on our Constitution as what's happening right now.

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01:46:57.680 It's such a, if you go back to the Van Jones era of the ends justify the means.

01:47:03.600 Yep.

01:47:04.280 Is so that approach from the left.

01:47:06.600 You see that quite clearly when you're talking about the pro-life part of this, part of the conversation,

01:47:11.780 where they say, well, we don't want to get anyone in between a patient and their doctor.

01:47:16.420 I mean, it's like, it's such a blatantly obvious thing they don't believe.

01:47:20.960 Every single time they try to get into healthcare, they're trying to put people between their doctor and the patient.

01:47:25.880 How many times did the government decided to get directly in between you and your doctor and COVID?

01:47:30.020 Yeah.

01:47:30.360 Don't listen to your doctor.

01:47:31.400 We might put your doctor in jail. 1.00

01:47:33.160 They might mandate you to take all sorts of different things that you can't go outside.

01:47:37.160 All of these things are obvious to people.

01:47:39.440 If they think about it for five seconds, these are arguments they obviously don't believe but utilize in the moment because in the moment they think it helps them.

01:47:50.240 And you see this, I think, all across the board.

01:47:52.900 They don't care whether the Constitution is a factor.

01:47:57.020 It's just another speed bump for them.

01:48:00.100 There's another thing that being heard today in court, a federal appeals court going to hear about the FBI's blatant scheme to circumvent the Fourth Amendment.

01:48:07.980 We have $86 million was seized from people by the FBI, not suspected of any crime.

01:48:19.180 Is that legal?

01:48:21.580 It can't be.

01:48:22.920 It can't be.

01:48:24.660 This all stems from that vault in Beverly Hills.

01:48:27.560 Do you remember that a few years ago?

01:48:29.580 2021, the feds went into a vault in Beverly Hills.

01:48:33.960 There was one guy suspected of money laundering for drugs.

01:48:38.980 They opened up the entire vault, every safe deposit box, and took everything, even though those people weren't suspected of a crime.

01:48:49.440 Can the government do it?

01:48:52.800 It's in court being heard today.

01:48:55.960 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:48:57.640 I pray not.

01:48:58.220 Mike Lee is going to be joining us next.

01:49:01.260 We're going to be talking about the amendments of the Constitution in just a minute in some of these cases.

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01:50:27.320 Right now, the weaponization of government hearings is happening in the House with CTIL.

01:50:34.480 If you don't know that story, look it up.

01:50:36.500 It's so important.

01:50:37.580 Meanwhile, they're also considering renewing key authority known as Section 02, and it is the ability to spy on the American people.

01:50:53.140 Christopher Wray got up and on Tuesday he was saying, you know, September 11th, I mean, that's a warning.

01:51:02.660 He said, what could anyone possibly say to victims' families if there was another attack that we could have prevented if we hadn't given away the ability to effectively use a tool?

01:51:15.340 Let me tell you what's going to be said, Christopher Wray.

01:51:17.680 No tool you had could have stopped anything because you stopped looking for the bad guys when you opened the border and you started looking at Catholics and following literally an eight-week-old baby with our air marshals. 0.93

01:51:38.580 That's when we lost that.

01:51:40.260 That's when you all turned your back on real terror.

01:51:43.500 Mike Lee's not happy about it, and he's on the phone with us now.

01:51:49.640 Senator, how are you, sir?

01:51:51.540 Doing great.

01:51:52.200 Good to be with you, Glenn.

01:51:53.560 So tell me what, first of all, for anybody who doesn't know what Section 702 is and what is being done.

01:52:01.720 Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA as it's called,

01:52:05.660 is a tool that's supposed to allow our spy agencies to listen in on conversations by our enemies, or spies from other countries overseas who are trying to mess with us.

01:52:17.120 That's legitimate.

01:52:18.260 What's not legitimate is that sometimes while spying on people overseas, they scoop up what they call incidental collections, that is, conversations involving American citizens.

01:52:28.600 They record those, put those on a database.

01:52:31.460 What we want to say, in a nutshell, is to say if they want to access that database, looking for communications involving an American citizen on U.S. soil,

01:52:41.660 they should have to get a search warrant to do that backdoor search, as we call it. 0.97

01:52:46.180 It's not too much to ask.

01:52:47.840 Look, this has been law of the land since 1791 when we adopted the Fourth Amendment.

01:52:52.260 And with darn good reason, privacy matters, and government has enough advantages on its side.

01:52:58.900 We don't need to make it easier.

01:53:00.540 What we found, Glenn, is that hundreds and hundreds of thousands of times the FBI has done warrantless backdoor searches on American citizens on U.S. soil,

01:53:12.380 unsuspecting Americans who have no idea they're being surveilled.

01:53:16.040 It's not too much to ask to demand that they get a warrant.

01:53:20.100 That's why I've introduced the Government Surveillance Reform Act, and that bill is very similar to the bill that was passed out of the House Judiciary Committee yesterday.

01:53:29.740 We need to make sure that we don't just reauthorize this Section 702 of FISA without these reforms.

01:53:36.600 A clean reauthorization is unacceptable, and we've got to stop it.

01:53:40.820 I've got to tell you, Mike, I am so disturbed.

01:53:43.980 You know, what the Church Commission found in the 70s woke America up for a little while.

01:53:51.200 Not an awful lot changed, but at least they pretended.

01:53:54.340 What the Church Commission found at the time is romper room baby preschool stuff compared to what's happening all across the government now

01:54:05.440 and what they are doing to American citizens.

01:54:08.860 Am I reading the room wrong?

01:54:10.580 You are absolutely right, and you're right on both fronts.

01:54:15.720 You're right that it was child's play compared to what we've got now,

01:54:19.220 and you're also right that what the Church Committee found was itself really disturbing.

01:54:24.380 They found that in every presidential administration since Woodrow Wilson,

01:54:28.800 so basically since people had access to things like telephones,

01:54:32.540 every presidential administration from Woodrow Wilson up until the 70s,

01:54:36.820 when they conducted this investigation, had used our nation's intelligence-gathering agencies

01:54:42.960 for political espionage against their domestic political opponents.

01:54:48.140 This is wrong. This is evil.

01:54:50.080 And so now that things are so much more automated, so much harder to detect by the public,

01:54:56.080 it's worse, not better, and it's more important, not less, to respect the Fourth Amendment.

01:55:01.240 So here's what I don't understand. The Democrats, you know, with CTIL, everything that's been going on,

01:55:06.360 they're just in complete denial. They're just like, this is made up, this is a conspiracy theory.

01:55:10.660 No, it's not. Here are the facts. Here are the actual documents to what's going on.

01:55:15.300 You would think that a group of people that are so convinced that the next president could be a dictator,

01:55:23.180 if it's Donald Trump, would do everything they could to make sure that a dictator couldn't take out his political opponents

01:55:32.480 by using the NSA or CIA or any of these tools.

01:55:39.460 Why is there no interest when they think we're on the verge of a dictator?

01:55:44.080 Okay, here's the interesting thing, Glenn. This is actually a bipartisan issue.

01:55:49.060 It's an overwhelmingly bipartisan issue. In fact, this bill, the Government Surveillance Reform Act,

01:55:54.640 or the counterpart in the House of Representatives that passed out of the House Judiciary Committee yesterday,

01:55:59.680 either one of those bills would pass both houses of Congress with a pretty overwhelming bipartisan supermajority,

01:56:06.300 if we could put it up today. I've got liberal Democrats with me on this.

01:56:10.580 My lead co-sponsor on this is Ron White, who's a liberal Democrat from Oregon.

01:56:15.120 On the House side, Warren Davidson is on the bill, and the lead Democratic co-sponsor there is Zoe Lofgren,

01:56:24.560 the liberal Democrat. There is broad-based bipartisan support for this.

01:56:29.720 And so if the members as a whole get their way, we win. Liberty wins. The Fourth Amendment wins.

01:56:36.660 If the military and intelligence industrial complex of Washington, as swampy as it gets, gets its way,

01:56:43.120 they're going to reauthorize this thing clean.

01:56:45.580 Initially, what they'll try to do is they'll slap it onto the National Defense Authorization Act,

01:56:50.040 and they'll say, oh, don't worry, this is just a clean authorization until April.

01:56:54.300 They leave out the fact that if they can get it to April, they can get the FISA court to issue another standing order,

01:57:00.940 and that standing order can take them for as long as a year into the future.

01:57:04.780 So instead of an extension of four or five months, it's an extension of 16 or 17 months.

01:57:10.900 This is how we lose. This is how the military-industrial complex wins, and this is how liberty gets destroyed.

01:57:17.800 It's bizarre to be on the side that for so long said, trust the military, trust our FBI,

01:57:26.900 and now we're wide awake seeing the vast corruption and violations of our sacred rights from the Bill of Rights.

01:57:39.360 And the side that was the one that was always preaching this, generally speaking, doesn't seem to care.

01:57:47.320 I guess maybe it's just it's the swamp that doesn't care.

01:57:52.520 It's the swamp that doesn't care because the swamp is already always interested in perpetuating the swamp,

01:57:59.400 and the swamp asks us to trust it even though we can't and shouldn't.

01:58:03.920 My wife Sharon likes to say, trust people, but always be skeptical of government, always,

01:58:09.900 because government holds too many cards to be trusted.

01:58:14.040 And so, look, this is so important to remember.

01:58:18.000 Remember just the day before yesterday, I had FBI Director Christopher Wray on the stand,

01:58:24.440 and every single time I asked him about reforms, he wanted to dodge the question,

01:58:28.840 and he wanted to avoid the issue of all these abuses of hundreds of thousands of warrantless searches being conducted on the American people.

01:58:36.200 Do you know what he said?

01:58:37.080 He said, trust us.

01:58:38.280 Trust us because we now have reforms in place.

01:58:40.760 They're going to be better.

01:58:41.760 I've been hearing that for 13 years, Glenn.

01:58:44.700 I know.

01:58:45.260 Every single time they're lying.

01:58:47.420 And it's time to bring this thing to an end.

01:58:50.980 This is the time.

01:58:52.340 702 expires at midnight on New Year's Eve this year.

01:58:56.780 We've got to stop this.

01:58:58.020 And so, help me, if they put an NDAA on the floor, a National Defense Authorization Act,

01:59:03.200 that has this in there, we're going to have to do everything we can to take that down.

01:59:06.920 We can't afford to take that hit to liberty.

01:59:10.060 Not now.

01:59:10.360 They're going to do it.

01:59:10.960 They always do it at the end of the year when nobody's paying attention.

01:59:14.320 When everybody's on vacation, that's when they do these things.

01:59:19.340 Mike, let me switch topics here for a second.

01:59:23.320 Donald Trump is, you know, when Chris Christie said last night, 0.57

01:59:29.240 well, he's not going to be able to vote because he's a felon.

01:59:32.120 And the audience booed him, not because everybody's willing to vote for a felon,

01:59:38.880 but because they feel that these trials are nothing but kangaroo courts.

01:59:47.040 Especially the one in Washington, D.C., which I don't think is going to go Donald Trump's way.

01:59:54.500 What happens if he goes to jail, Mike?

01:59:58.020 Okay, so insofar as we're dealing with federal charges, if President Trump were convicted

02:00:06.720 and then he became elected as president of the United States, it's pretty clear he has the ability to pardon himself.

02:00:13.400 There's the same protection doesn't necessarily exist with regard to the state charges.

02:00:20.480 I don't know.

02:00:21.120 We've never been in this position before, but I believe in the jury system,

02:00:26.000 and I hope and expect that we'll have juries that will take their role seriously.

02:00:31.060 In Washington, D.C.?

02:00:33.120 Well, and where the juries get it wrong on the facts,

02:00:37.600 then we hope that the judges will get it right on the law, and everybody has the right to an appeal.

02:00:42.400 And I hope and expect that the judges, both the trial court judges and the appellate court judges,

02:00:50.380 will be doing their jobs.

02:00:51.900 So we've got to trust that system.

02:00:54.120 And so what happens practically, I don't know.

02:00:57.080 But at every stage, people have rallied to President Trump's defense.

02:01:02.060 His fans become bigger fans when these sorts of things happen.

02:01:05.720 And I do think we've entered a very unfortunate area in which we have politically weaponized the criminal justice system

02:01:17.040 to such an extent that the leading candidate for the office of President of the United States,

02:01:24.320 the presumptive frontrunner, the likely nominee for one of our two major political parties in this country,

02:01:31.240 is facing four different criminal indictments in four different jurisdictions

02:01:36.840 for crimes that I don't think anyone thinks that would have been charged with

02:01:41.900 were he not the leading Republican presidential candidate.

02:01:46.840 And that's very, very disturbing.

02:01:49.220 And I think that's also a reason why a lot of people are showing up for him.

02:01:52.840 They sense some injustice in here.

02:01:55.060 Regardless of whether they agree with everything he says or does,

02:02:00.100 they know in their hearts that there's something terribly wrong about this.

02:02:05.340 Mike, as always, thanks for all your hard work.

02:02:07.780 God bless.

02:02:09.040 Keep it up.

02:02:09.480 Thank you, Glenn.

02:02:10.100 You bet.

02:02:10.720 You bet.

02:02:11.120 Bye-bye.

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02:03:49.840 The Glenn Beck Program.

02:04:06.220 Hello and welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

02:04:10.100 Bitcoin is at 43,000 now.

02:04:13.280 It was 45,000, I think, yesterday.

02:04:16.220 Yeah, I think it touched 45 for a second.

02:04:17.940 And you remember, Jamie Dimon just came out and said,

02:04:23.140 I think the government needs to ban cryptocurrencies.

02:04:26.920 Mm-hmm.

02:04:27.340 Uh-huh.

02:04:27.740 Really bad investment.

02:04:29.060 Right, Stu?

02:04:30.000 You know, it really hasn't been.

02:04:31.640 Everyone talks about how, oh, people get blown up.

02:04:33.960 They got suckered into the crypto industry and lost all their money.

02:04:37.580 But you had to buy it a long time ago.

02:04:40.500 Right.

02:04:40.800 So let me give you, this is all real.

02:04:43.180 Okay.

02:04:43.540 If you bought Bitcoin on any day in 2009.

02:04:47.140 Uh-huh.

02:04:47.540 Okay, well, I just started it.

02:04:48.680 Right.

02:04:48.920 Of course, everyone made money.

02:04:50.160 Or 2010.

02:04:51.220 Uh-huh.

02:04:51.660 Or 2011.

02:04:52.600 Right.

02:04:52.940 Or 2012.

02:04:53.960 Right.

02:04:54.240 Or 2013.

02:04:55.300 Okay.

02:04:55.540 Or 2014 or 2015 or 2016 or 2017 or 2018 or 2019 or 2020 or 2023.

02:05:01.840 If you bought on any one of those days.

02:05:04.800 Yeah, but 21 and 22 were really bad.

02:05:07.920 Okay, 21 and 22.

02:05:08.920 Let's look at those.

02:05:09.680 Yeah.

02:05:09.820 Okay.

02:05:10.200 Okay.

02:05:10.640 If you bought in 2022.

02:05:12.280 Uh-huh.

02:05:12.760 And you're down, you're very unlucky.

02:05:15.900 Right.

02:05:16.040 Because if you had purchased on over 90% of days in 2022, you're up.

02:05:22.260 You've made money on your Bitcoin that you bought in 2022.

02:05:24.920 Yeah, but what about 2021?

02:05:26.440 Well, your worst case scenario in 2022 would be buying on New Year's Day.

02:05:30.280 If you did that, you're down 10%.

02:05:33.880 That's your worst case scenario if you bought in 2022.

02:05:37.900 But there was 2021.

02:05:39.080 That was the peak year.

02:05:39.900 We all remember that.

02:05:40.840 Everything was going crazy.

02:05:41.900 Everyone was talking about Bitcoin commercials on the Super Bowl.

02:05:44.080 You remember that whole thing?

02:05:45.500 Well, if you bought in 2021, the majority of the days, over 50% of the days, I think it's

02:05:52.660 50.4% of the days in 2021, you're still up.

02:05:58.860 Okay.

02:05:59.340 Now, half of the days, you'd be down.

02:06:01.760 Some of it a little bit.

02:06:02.740 Some of them a lot.

02:06:03.200 Think of this.

02:06:03.860 Think of the odds of losing on Bitcoin.

02:06:09.400 Very difficult to lose.

02:06:10.260 Very difficult.

02:06:11.220 So far.

02:06:12.200 Now, if you sold when it was low, then obviously you lost.

02:06:15.260 But if you held it, you're up at this point.

02:06:18.100 Now, people will say, well, yeah, but what about when it peaked?

02:06:20.620 69,000.

02:06:22.080 Do you remember how many days?

02:06:23.620 Let's say it was above 65,000.

02:06:26.660 Three?

02:06:27.540 Four.

02:06:28.080 Four.

02:06:28.460 Four total days.

02:06:30.020 So if you happen to purchase your Bitcoin on the four total days, it was above 65,000. 0.96

02:06:37.260 It kind of sucks for you right now.

02:06:38.980 Yes, you are down. 0.99

02:06:40.300 I got it.

02:06:41.380 Maybe you don't have a positive impression.

02:06:42.880 I'd say hold it because you'll probably get above that number eventually.

02:06:46.520 And maybe this round.

02:06:49.860 Maybe.

02:06:50.960 I don't know if this is.

02:06:52.440 This might be.

02:06:53.200 This might be the rebound again because it always rebounds a lot higher and then it falls

02:06:59.820 to the, what, the last, right around the last high.

02:07:04.360 Since Bitcoin start, any purchase made on 96.5% of days is now profitable.

02:07:11.080 Since the start of the 2017 bubble, remember that?

02:07:14.840 92.6% of days are now profitable.

02:07:17.800 And even since the start of the 2021 bubble year, any purchase made on 82.3% of days is

02:07:25.720 now profitable.

02:07:27.040 This is the, this is the, they want to send you away from this investment, everybody.

02:07:31.380 They want you to, they want this to be illegal.

02:07:34.260 Well, but at least you'll be safe in central bank digital currency.

02:07:38.120 See you next time.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 07, 2023

The REAL Debate Winner Wasn’t on the Debate Stage ｜ Guests： Megyn Kelly & Sen. Mike Lee ｜ 12⧸7⧸23

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