The Real Reason Pam Bondi Should Resign | Guests: Salena Zito | 7⧸8⧸25
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2 hours and 9 minutes
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Glenn Beck is back with a brand new episode of the Glenn Beck Program. This week, he's talking about how to deal with the insanity of the news, and how to keep your head together in the midst of it all.
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Yesterday we told you that the Epstein videotape was out.
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Today we find out that they edited the videotape
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They just found out because there was a timestamp jump
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Now, I don't think that somebody was waiting right off the camera,
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came in, and in a minute, opened the door, went in, killed him,
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rushed out, closed the door, locked it back up,
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But why on God's green earth would you edit a videotape
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Now, yesterday, I didn't call for anybody's firing,
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I frankly don't know if anyone is covering anything up.
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What I do know is this is the worst rollout of information
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by the way, there is one minute that is missing from the tape.
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by going and looking at the time stamp the whole time.
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Now, I want to start with just a quick definition check here.
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There is a difference between a theory and a conclusion.
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when the facts are sitting right in front of us.
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Now, last night I was going through some of this stuff
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It reads like a logistics log for an enterprise.
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And most of all, something built to be protected.
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If we are to hold on to even the faintest glimmer
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Okay, well, let's look at how they're at least labeled
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why do you log who's on the boat with you at all times
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I mean, it's almost done with the German efficiency
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unless you intend on proving track or recall who was on the boat,
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who was on the plane, who was in the house at all times,
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and you need to know where they were and when they were there.
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I mean, does that sound like a guy who was acting just himself
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and was only, you know, I keep these logs because,
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but let's say I just have a whole bunch of pictures
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Now, is this the profile of a disturbed individual?
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Something engineered to be efficient, repeatable, and survivable.
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A system of redundancy, with documentation, with contingency.
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If I have all of these things on all of these servers,
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why do I have to have backups of all of those servers?
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What if those devices hold proof of others involved?
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See, the only thing that is more disturbing than, you know, what's in the evidence list
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and what really hasn't happened with the evidence list,
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It doesn't seem to be like there's a lack of evidence here.
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If we found, let's say, a pastor in Omaha, Nebraska,
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or a tech worker in Ohio, or a factory foreman in rural Alabama,
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do you think all of this would be proceeding exactly the way it's being proceeded with Epstein?
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Or do you think we would know every name, every detail,
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we would be asking and answered the questions of who took the photos?
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That's the official line now, but is that logical?
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where he was personally just trafficking these children for himself.
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You know, everybody's got their own version of what preparation looks like.
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But in Israel, preparation often looks a little bit different than all of that.
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It looks like a child knowing the fastest route to a bomb shelter.
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It looks like an elderly woman who sleeps in her shoes just in case she has to run.
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It looks like medics who can't respond to emergencies until they've put on a bulletproof vest.
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And that's why I don't have a problem with all of this, even though I have a huge problem with all of this and are saying it every day.
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I got this response on, I think it was on Acts yesterday.
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You know, the reason why you don't care about this is because he's a Jew and you and your Jews.
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Anyway, let me make sure that you understand that things are different.
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Now is the time when you choose to stand with God's people or not.
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And it certainly doesn't mean turning a blind eye.
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What it does mean is that you stand against anybody who's like you and those Jews.
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You can support Israel now just by helping them stay safe.
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I don't care if he was just a common man that just flew too close to the sun.
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I don't care if he killed himself or he was murdered or he spontaneously combusted.
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Not the curated, sanitized, spoon-fed-to-us-by-committees-and-cable-news truth.
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There comes a time where there is a line in the sand and you have to start saying,
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When a society loses its grip on reality and the facts, when facts become optional and the
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I think trust is on the way to the coroner now in America.
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Because if there is no trust, there is no nation.
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It's just power and those just desperate enough to hold on to it.
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And those of us who will just accept whatever is spoon-fed to us one way or another.
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And I want you to understand, everything that I'm saying today is really not about Epstein.
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Because if the government, if the media, if the intelligence services,
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if the institutions meant to serve and protect the people are capable of either getting something like this so wrong and then not apologize for it, not show us how they could be this wrong,
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or they're capable of concealing something of this scale, then silence isn't just complicity.
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And if we allow this to stand, we become part of it.
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I have been on this boat with you for a very long time, questioning this, thinking there's absolutely no way that this is what they now say it is.
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Well, then I demand to know all of the evidence, and I demand to see all of the evidence, because I've been complicit in a lie that this guy was somehow involved with all of these celebrities and powerful people.
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I've been complicit in that, because you convinced me of it, not you, but those in government, those now in power, convinced me of that, that it was true, and it logically made sense.
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And now you're telling me to stop all the logic and just trust you.
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I won't trust you, because you were part of the people that told me to trust you last time, because you knew.
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Now, I willingly went with you, but I'm not going to be Jake Tapper, who I'm just going to observe this, be part of it, and then, when it's proven to be wrong, apparently, you just go, oh.
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And then you listen to the same people who convinced you of it the last time.
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How many times have we said, how can you, how can these people have lied to you?
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How can you keep going back to these people and say, okay, what else do you have for me?
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Or at least you made an honest mistake in your assessment.
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I mean, am I the only one who, I mean, I've said this over and over again.
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I would be so pissed if I were a journalist and I had all of these sources telling me, oh, no, Joe Biden's fine.
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I've always said, how can you possibly not be pissed at those people?
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And I am not even assigning the fact that or the idea that they lied.
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I think if it is true that nothing happened, then this is a cavalcade of errors in judgment.
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And I want to track it all down so we don't do it again.
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Every time you look away, every time you shrug off a lie too big or too dark to face, we teach ourselves to live with less, less truth, less justice, less moral clarity.
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And over the last 25 years, I mean, the health, my whole life, I've been doing this now for 48 years.
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And it's not because we're stupid, not because we're coward, but because somewhere along the line, we stopped demanding the proof.
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And we started accepting other people's words of comfort in place.
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Do you release a tape that is supposed to be the evidence?
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Do you release a tape and then let the public find out for themselves that there's an edit in the tape?
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It could have been just a digital jump in the tape.
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So, let's just say, let's just give them every benefit of the doubt and say it was just a digital jump in the tape.
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Do you not put an intern on it just to say, watch the clock and make sure there's no jumps or edit in the tape?
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300 million people are going to be watching it and somebody's going to take the time to watch the clock.
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So, watch the clock is every minute accounted for.
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I think you could pretty easily say that if you wanted to, right, and your goal was you wanted to edit out a minute,
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it would be very easy to edit in a minute of footage.
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And that no one would notice, just make the clock continuous, right?
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If you were trying to cover that, it would be easy to cover.
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You say at the beginning, there is an error at this point.
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The fact that you release it as proof without acknowledging that minute is,
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I just don't understand how you can make a mistake like that when your goal here is supposedly to put everyone's mind at ease, right?
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Let me just go back before we leave just this one.
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Remember when I said yesterday, your wife finds receipts for you buying presents at Tiffany's that she never got.
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That, you know, you were at a hotel that she's never been to.
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But she should demand the evidence because you don't want that hanging there on your relationship.
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Now, you give her the evidence, but then she finds out that, oh, well, it's the wrong receipt.
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It was a receipt, you know, that you explained away, but what you used as proof was not the same receipt.
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You were like, no, see, honey, this is when we went to the hotel together.
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And then she has it for a while, and she looks at it, and she's like, wait a minute, the date is different on this one.
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And it doesn't mean that he was cheating on you.
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And it certainly would make you have legitimate questions about the situation.
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Now, if it wasn't for the jump in the tape, and I'm going to call it, I'm not even going to call it an edit because I don't think it was an edit.
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As if the jump in the tape wasn't incompetent enough for you, listen to this one.
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So, the more and more we looked at this tape, I started looking.
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It was just weird because it looked like a janitor's closet.
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Well, I was like, I can tell you there's a woman that looks like a janitor that comes out of supposedly the person, the cell that they're saying is his cell, which they're not, by the way.
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This was like people on social media were saying this was the cell.
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So, I looked around to see if there was any confirmation on what this cell was.
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And I found an OIG report from the Justice Department two years ago that shows the camera angle and the one camera that was actually working.
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So, you can see the diagram, and I think we actually have it if you're watching this right now.
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There's a diagram that shows where this camera is.
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And the big thing that stands out, Glenn, is this camera doesn't even have eyes on Epstein's cell at all.
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There is a service wing, and that's what we're looking at with that door 46.
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That's like a service entrance or staff entrance.
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Now, you can't see on the lower level Epstein's cell at all.
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So, this is what makes it look even crazier for that one minute that's missing.
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And I will say that, okay, let me just say it this way.
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I've spent years and years and years looking at surveillance and security camera footage, as you know, in my previous job.
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I've never seen an over one minute jump right at a time that would be very, very, I don't know, just convenient.
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I've never seen that before in all my years looking at these things.
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Why do you say that minute would be convenient?
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You're just saying that one minute being gone is convenient.
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You're not saying that particular minute is important.
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It's convenient in this entire time frame based off of this camera angle.
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So, it's convenient, like, let's say 60 seconds would be great for someone walking across that lower level.
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60 seconds would be perfect for if you wanted to, like, conceal the fact that someone walked across that area.
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Here's why I didn't buy into this at first, okay?
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60 seconds to get in and open the door and then kill him and then leave, okay?
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If you look at the diagram where the camera is, there is just maybe a foot space where the camera is not able to see where there is a door from the staff area, okay?
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Are you looking at, because I think it's hard to tell from this, are we looking, is this diagram the top floor or the bottom floor?
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So, it looks like Epstein, so I think Epstein's cell is on the top floor, yeah.
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Okay, so I'm looking, I'm looking at where the staff area is, okay?
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So, there is one way out of the staff area and it's right below the camera.
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Like, underneath the floor, essentially, of where the camera is.
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If the camera's up on a ceiling, is that what you're saying?
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Yeah, the camera's like, yeah, the camera is, the camera is.
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From a second floor shooting down and you can, the evidence that they're basically proclaiming here, and this is true, you know, what Jason's saying is true, that you can't see the door of the Epstein cell.
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What you can see is a common area that, in theory, you would need to cross to get to the cell.
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What you're saying, Glenn, is the camera doesn't actually show 100% of the potential paths to get there, right?
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Like, you could come, if you cross right in front of the banister here on the bottom floor, there's no way.
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If you look at the videotape, it's the white room downstairs, right?
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So, Epstein's room would be below the garbage can?
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The Epstein's room, if you look out, the area that you can see, and I apologize for radio listeners here that aren't seeing this visual, but I want to make sure we get this right.
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There's an open area where the banister is like the, and it shows the common area behind it, right?
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If you go to the right side of the common area from our view, outside of the view to the right is where the entrance to the cell is, the stairs up to the cell.
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So, all you have to do, you don't have to cross the floor.
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You could go through the door, you could go through the door and see, and just stay against the wall.
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I mean, I guess maybe, and Jason, maybe you know this, maybe it's explained somewhere else in the report, but like, is it possible that they're saying all the other entrances, like, to get to that area have cameras?
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And so we, they didn't see anybody walking into those areas.
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If that were true, of course, you should release them.
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Then why wouldn't you show the other, this is, you know, this is not proof that anybody did anything.
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The fact that, like, they would release that, because I think everyone had the same assumption.
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I think even Jason, as a super duper skeptic on this, even you had the assumption that what they were saying was the green doors were the cells, or at least to the cell area.
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That's what everyone, I think, thought when they saw it.
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Now, to be clear, like the report, as you point out, Jason, previously had stated and shown this diagram that shows that they're talking about the common area.
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So that's not like it's, but like they, A, should have been very clear about that.
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And, you know, I have that balcony upstairs by the fireplace.
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The Stu arrived here like at midnight last night, because it's like a day's journey from anywhere.
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But we're going to go upstairs, and you put a camera, okay, down into the great room.
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You want to recreate the Epstein video in your house?
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I do, and I want to show you, I can get to places in the room because there's a whole floor.
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The balcony shows part, but it doesn't show the door.
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I could wait until I've got to prove that we're going to do this live on YouTube or something, maybe on X today, as soon as we get off the air, because this is ridiculous.
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However, it is the fact that they're releasing a video that has this many holes in it to a passing.
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Again, the person you're trying to make feel better about all of this is someone very interested in the detail of it, right?
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You're not releasing this to some person who kind of knows who Jeffrey Epstein is.
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This is intentionally designed to try to push down some, what you're arguing is a conspiracy theory.
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I'm not arguing that he killed himself or he didn't kill.
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You know, not only are you saying, you know, that these people have some interest in it.
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Well, you know, these people are, you know, interested in the details.
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You're releasing it to a bunch of people who many of them have the details, but many of them are hostile to what you're saying.
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You better not have anything that they find out later.
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And it could be, you know, you could make the couple of arguments that you probably could make here.
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One, they don't actually care about this and they're annoyed they have to deal with it.
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And if that's the truth, it's just inexcusable.
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The other thing they might argue, and this could be part of it, part of the rollout, there were reports at least that this got leaked, that this came out essentially earlier than they wanted it to come out.
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And so the rollout was not as well planned as they thought it was going to be.
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Now, it's possible, right, that they leaked it to Axios, but it's not exactly a typical location of a Trump leak.
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First of all, this administration has no leaks.
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A lot of this has been tight, but there is, there does seem to be, you know, there's a lot of big personalities.
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Who knows how this was released and who did it?
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I mean, and that, it may be true that part of the rollout was hurt, right, because it was released before they were ready or something.
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They had a memo that explained what the video was and did not mention any of that, any of the issues we're talking about.
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But again, like, even with that explanation, which would make me happier, right, that they were at least available.
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It still wouldn't make you a person who believes in this theory.
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Apparently, and we knew this, there were some cameras that weren't working.
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Four additional cameras were not recording that would have given us more context.
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You say unbelievable, and it's like, actually, the word unbelievable applies.
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Hey, welcome to it. Today I'm joining Liz Wheeler from yesterday and calling for the
00:47:13.700
resignation of Pam Bondi. I've never seen such incompetence. And I've seen a lot of incompetence.
00:47:20.320
I've been watching Washington for a long time. Just when you thought they couldn't get more
00:47:24.400
incompetent, they released the videotape of the Epstein cell and try to sell something that is
00:47:32.600
insane. Especially when you start to look at all of the details, like the missing minute
00:47:37.600
of video that was edited. I, you know, give them the benefit of the doubt. They didn't edit anything
00:47:43.200
out. Um, well, why didn't you say anything about it before? You know, when you release it,
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you want to close all of the, uh, you want to close the doors on the submarine and not leave,
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you know, well, I had the screen door there. It was going to keep out the flies, but not the water,
00:48:00.960
dude. God, what's wrong with these people? Uh, we'll get into that here in just a second.
00:48:06.100
And, uh, we're also going to talk to Celine, Selena Zito. She is the author of the book Butler.
00:48:12.380
I started listening to it, uh, yesterday. It is really good. I think I'm up to chapter six.
00:48:18.680
She is a great storyteller. Um, and she also explains America in a way I've never heard anybody else
00:48:27.800
explain it. The Trump voters and what happened that day, uh, in Butler, how president Trump's
00:48:34.680
assassination attempt has affected his second term. It's Butler. It's out today. Selena joins me in 60
00:48:42.320
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it's a day's day and a half journey here, I believe, Stu. Yeah. Day and a half journey. Uh,
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and, uh, there, part of it, you have to be on the back of a Wells Fargo wagon to get here, but,
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uh, he came at midnight last night. So both of us had about four hours of sleep last night.
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Selena, congratulations on your book. It is so good. Uh, just started reading it or listening
00:50:00.200
to it, uh, last night. And, uh, I wish you would have, I wish you would have read it. Um,
00:50:05.820
but you know, the lady who have reading it is, is very good, but I just enjoy the way you tell
00:50:10.100
stories. Um, the writing of this is the best explanation on who Trump supporters are that
00:50:20.740
I think I've ever read from anybody. It's really good. And the description of your experience there
00:50:28.520
at the edge of the stage with Donald Trump, uh, is pretty remarkable as well. Welcome to the program.
00:50:34.700
Thank you, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me. You know, I was thinking about this as I was
00:50:40.100
waiting to come on and you and I have been along for this ride together for what? Since 2006, 2005,
00:50:49.100
like 20 years. Right. And, and, and I've been chronicling the American people for probably 10
00:50:57.220
more years before that. And it is really remarkable to me as watching how this coalition
00:51:05.540
has grown, right. And watching how people have be, have become more aspirational. And, and that's,
00:51:14.700
that is what the Trump, the conservative populist coalition is, right? It is the aspirations
00:51:21.220
of many, um, but the celebration of the individual and chronicling them. Yeah. It has been, has been
00:51:30.180
a great honor. You know, um, I was thinking about this yesterday when, when, um, Elon Musk said he was
00:51:38.000
starting in another party and somebody asked me, well, isn't he doing what the tea party tried to do?
00:51:44.700
No, the tea party wasn't going to start a new party. It was to, you know, it was to coerce and
00:51:51.460
convince the Republican party to do the right thing. And it worked in many ways. Uh, it didn't
00:51:58.660
accomplish what we hoped, but it did accomplish a lot of things. Donald Trump is a result of the
00:52:04.620
tea party. I truly believe that. And a lot of the people that were with it, right. We're with
00:52:09.860
Donald Trump, uh, are the people that were with the tea party. That's absolutely right. So that was
00:52:16.500
the inception. So American politics has always had movements that have been just outside of a party
00:52:25.780
or slightly within a party that galvanize and broaden the coalition, right? They don't take away
00:52:35.400
a walk away and become another party. If anything, if there is a third party out there, it's almost
00:52:42.200
the Republican party because it has changed in so many viable and meaningful ways. And the tea party
00:52:49.880
didn't go away. It's strengthened and broadened the Republican party because these weren't just
00:52:57.240
Republicans that became part of this party. It was independence. It was Democrats and this unhappy
00:53:04.100
with establishment Republicans and unhappy with Democrats. And, and that, that movement is what
00:53:11.080
we, what I see today, what I see every day. When I saw that day in Butler, when I showed up at that
00:53:19.180
rally, as I do so many rallies, you know, throughout my career and, and that one was riveting and changed
00:53:26.660
everything. You, um, made a great case in the opening, uh, chapter. You talk about how things were
00:53:33.780
going for Donald Trump and how this moment really did change everything for Donald Trump, uh, changed
00:53:42.300
the trajectory, changed the mood. I mean, Elon Musk was not on the Trump train until this, uh, moment.
00:53:50.000
What do you, what, what, what changed? How, how did that work? And, um, and I, I contend that it,
00:53:59.840
we would have had much more profound change had the media actually done their job and reported this
00:54:07.080
the way it really was, you know, and people will find this in the, in the book. I'm laying on the
00:54:14.140
ground with a agent on top of me. I'm four feet away from the president and there's, there's notices
00:54:21.740
coming up on my phone saying he was, um, hit by broken glass. And I, and to this day, that remains,
00:54:29.320
remains part of this subculture in American politics because reporters were, were so anxious
00:54:36.800
to, to write what they believed happened as opposed to what happened. And it's been a continual
00:54:43.340
frustration of mine as a reporter who is on the ground all the time. Now I'll tell you what changed
00:54:49.820
in that moment. And, and it's a nuance and I believe nuance is dead in American, um, journalism,
00:54:56.760
but it was a nuance and it was a powerful conversation that I had with president Trump
00:55:02.800
the next day. He called me the next morning, but it's also a powerful conversation I had with him
00:55:07.420
just two weeks ago when he made the decision to say, fight, fight, fight. People have, um,
00:55:14.880
put in their heads why they think he said it, but he told me why he said that. And he said, Selena,
00:55:22.720
in that moment, I was not Donald Trump, the man, I was a former president. I was quite possibly going
00:55:29.900
to be president again. And I had an obligation to the country and to the office that I have served in
00:55:37.320
to project strength, to present project resolve, to project that we will not be defeated. And, and,
00:55:46.120
and it's sort of like that symbolic Eagle that is always, you know, that, that, that symbol that we
00:55:51.660
look at when we think about our country. He said, that's why I said that I didn't want the people
00:55:56.540
behind me panicking. I didn't want the people watching it panicking. I had to show, show strength.
00:56:02.780
And it's that nuance that, that I think people really picked up on and galvanized people.
00:56:11.720
So he told me when he was laying down on the stage and you can hear him get, let me get up. I got to
00:56:16.920
get up. Let me get up. Let me get up. He told me as he was laying on the stage, I asked him, I said,
00:56:22.000
what, what, what were you thinking? What was going through your head? Now, Selena, I don't know about
00:56:27.100
you, but with me, it'd be like, how do I get off the stage? You know, that would my first would
00:56:31.800
first is survival. Okay. He said what was going through his mind was you're not pathetic. This
00:56:39.800
is pathetic. You're not afraid. Get up, get up. And so is that what informed his fight, fight, fight
00:56:49.480
of by the time he's standing up, he's thinking I'm a symbol or do you think he was thinking I'm a
00:56:56.720
symbol? This looks pathetic. It makes you look weak. Stand up. How do you think that actually
00:57:02.360
happened? He thinks, and we, he and I just talked about this two weeks ago. He, you know, he's, and
00:57:09.700
this is something he's really thought about, right? You know, and he's gone over and over and also
00:57:14.680
purpose and God, right? These are things that have, have, have lingered with him. You know, he,
00:57:22.000
he thought, yes, he did think it was pathetic that he was on the ground, but he wasn't thinking
00:57:27.140
about I'm Donald Trump. It's pathetic. He's thinking my country is symbolically on the ground.
00:57:34.980
I need to get up and I need to show that my country is strong, that our country is resolute.
00:57:40.920
And I need people to see that we can't go on looking like pathetic. Right. And I, and I think
00:57:47.840
that then goes to that image of Biden. You have been with so many presidents. How many presidents
00:57:55.840
do you think that you've personally been with would have thought that and reacted that way?
00:58:04.380
Probably only Reagan. Reagan would have, Reagan probably would have thought that. And if you remember
00:58:11.960
how he, um, was out, like standing outside, um, you know, waving out the window, right after he was
00:58:19.720
shot, right at the hospital, um, right. Had he had not been knocked out, like, you know, unconscious,
00:58:25.300
he probably would have done the same thing because he was also someone who deeply believed in American
00:58:32.920
exceptionalism and American exceptionalism does not delay on the ground. Yeah. That symbol symbol of the
00:58:39.960
presidency. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that affects him today.
00:58:46.220
So let me go back to God because, um, you talk to him the next day in your, your book Butler. Um,
00:58:53.020
you, he calls you up. I love the fact that you would, your parents would have been ashamed of you
00:58:58.280
on what you said to him. Um, the language you used, you just have to read, you just have to read the
00:59:04.140
book to hear this is a great part, but he calls you the next morning and wants to know if you're okay.
00:59:09.960
And you, you then start talking to him about God. And I was, I was thinking about this as I was
00:59:18.040
listening to it. You know, Lincoln said, I wasn't, I wasn't a Christian, uh, even though he was,
00:59:24.340
he, I wasn't a Christian when I was elected. I wasn't a Christian when my son died.
00:59:28.260
I became a Christian at Gettysburg is, is, I mean, I believe Donald Trump has always believed in God,
00:59:36.920
et cetera, et cetera. But do you think there was a, a real profound change at Butler with him?
00:59:45.340
Absolutely. You know, he called me seven times that day, seven times the day after seven talked about,
00:59:53.820
and, and I think he was looking for someone that he knew that was there and could try to sort it out.
01:00:00.360
Right. And I let him do most of the talking. I didn't pressure him, um, at all. I believed
01:00:08.100
that he was having, you know, he was struggling and he needed to just talk. And I believed my purpose
01:00:15.660
was to listen. Right. I know other reporters would have handled it differently. Um, and that's okay.
01:00:22.460
That's not the kind of reporter I am. And, and, and I myself was having my own, like, what, why,
01:00:28.880
why didn't I die? Right. Um, because it went right over my head. Uh, and, and, and so I let him,
01:00:37.600
he lived the conversation about God. I mean, he was also funny. He's like, I thought it was the
01:00:43.160
biggest mosquito in the world that hit me. Um, but, but he talks profoundly about purpose now,
01:00:52.520
you know, and God and how God was in that moment. If, if, if you've ever been in, in, in the book,
01:01:00.160
I love the way you said that as he's kind of working it out in his own head, he was like, you know,
01:01:06.360
I, I, I, I always knew that there was some sort of, you know, that God was present. He said, but now
01:01:14.160
that this has happened, I look back at all of the trials, all of the tribulations, literally the
01:01:19.520
trials, all of the things that have happened. He's like, I realized God was there the whole time.
01:01:25.500
Yeah, he does. And it's, it's fascinating to have been that witness to history, to have those
01:01:32.600
conversations with him because I'm telling you, and, and y'all know I can talk. I didn't say much
01:01:38.760
of anything. I just listened. Um, I just listened. I felt that was my purpose in that moment to give
01:01:48.180
him that space to work it out. I'm someone that is, you know, believes in God. I'm Catholic. I follow
01:01:55.680
my faith. Um, and, and so I thought, well, this is why God put me here. Right. And, and to, to have
01:02:06.320
that, to, to hear him talk about purpose, to hear him say, Selena, why did I turn my head? Why did I
01:02:12.800
put a chart down? I'm like, I don't know, sir. I thought you were Ross Perot there for a second
01:02:17.040
because, you know, he never has a chart and, and he laughed. And, and then he said, what, why did I put
01:02:24.480
that chart down? Why did I turn my head? I never turned my head away from people at a rally. And
01:02:29.000
it's true. That relationship is very transactional. It's very, they feed off of each other. It's a very
01:02:35.540
emo, emotive moment when you attend a rally, because he has a way of, of, of talking at a rally that you
01:02:44.040
believe that you are seen. And he said, and I never turned my head away. I never turned my head away.
01:02:49.720
Why did I turn my head away? I don't remember consciously thinking about turn my head away.
01:02:55.040
And then he says to me, he goes, Selena, that was God, wasn't it? I guess her, it was, it was God.
01:03:00.620
He said, and that's, that's why I have, I have a new purpose. And, and, and so, Glenn, I think it's
01:03:06.820
important when you look at the breadth of what has happened since he was sworn in, you see that purpose
01:03:15.840
every day, he doesn't lit up, he continues going. And, and, and it brings back to the beginning of the
01:03:24.200
book, where you find out that there was another president that was shot at in Butler. And, and that
01:03:31.260
was George Washington. And how different the country would have been had he died in that moment. And now
01:03:37.960
think about how different the country would be had President Trump died in that moment, there would be
01:03:43.280
new steel for steel workers. We're talking to Selena Zito about her new book called Butler and the
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assassination attempt on President Trump. And it is riveting. And, you know, it is so good. I wish
01:03:57.620
the press would read it because it really explains who we are, who, who Trump supporters are, who are,
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you know, red staters. It is so good at that. She is the best at that. Selena Zito, we'll continue here in
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Selena, um, I have some, uh, some news that we're trying to take care of today. Is it possible to
01:05:41.680
have you back on tomorrow to continue our conversation? Cause I want to get into the
01:05:45.920
killer. You went into the family and this is all the far as I am in the book. You start talking about
01:05:51.760
him and how he trained and his family and it's, it's fascinating stuff. Can we have you back tomorrow
01:06:01.320
to talk about more? Absolutely. That would be an honor. Yeah. Okay. Um, give, give one pitch on
01:06:09.740
what you think people need to know about this book and why it's important. I think people need to know
01:06:16.700
that there was a completely different election going on. One that you didn't see in the news
01:06:21.500
when you didn't see on social media or in cable news. And I really bring that, that story to life
01:06:27.940
and how much the country has changed in a way that you're not seeing in daily news, but I see
01:06:35.260
every day and continue to see every day on the ground as the way that I cover American politics.
01:06:42.160
Nobody covers it like you do. And I wish they did. And, you know, I know they're not going to,
01:06:48.020
but I really think, um, everybody, this, this is a book that I would love to give to friends and
01:06:55.160
relatives that just don't understand. I don't think they'd read it because of Trump, but it
01:07:02.260
really truly explains. I mean, just, you're talking about leaving the area in the parking lot
01:07:08.100
and the difference between, you know what I mean? The difference between Trump supporters and how
01:07:15.120
people interact with one another. It is such an important book. Selena, we'll talk again tomorrow.
01:07:20.500
I want to get into the killer and, uh, and what happened and all of that on tomorrow's broadcast.
01:07:27.100
Selena Zito, thank you so much. The name of the book is Butler. You want to read this book. It is
01:07:33.120
great. It is her real life, four feet away from the president being shot experience. This is Glenn Beck.
01:07:41.220
You know, mother goose, Aesop, uh, the brothers grim, they went to a lot of trouble to warn us
01:07:48.400
about procrastination. Uh, the ant and the grasshopper, the little red, uh, hand, the three
01:07:53.040
little pigs, one who built their house of straw. Remember that? Well, uh, that all represents the
01:08:00.900
person that is like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know it's coming, but I'll, I'll do something about it later.
01:08:04.680
I'll diversify later. The message is really clear. If you wait too long to prepare, you're going to be
01:08:09.940
standing in the rain while everyone else is warm and dry. Uh, and they're holding gold and you are
01:08:15.940
out kicking rocks going, what the heck happened? Don't wait, please don't wait. Uh, I'm going to
01:08:22.160
share some news with you here in just a second about, uh, I think it was 17 Democrats that have
01:08:27.180
now come out and said, our constituents are crying out for blood and they are starting to be afraid
01:08:34.020
themselves. I mean, this, I mean, could have predicted, well, did predict this 20 years ago.
01:08:40.660
They are now concerned about their own people because they feel like their, their own people
01:08:46.760
are saying, you've got to sacrifice yourself with blood to stop what's going on. It's madness.
01:08:52.300
Please diversify. Things could go insane at any minute. 1-800-957-GOLD. 1-800-957-GOLD.
01:09:04.020
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Well, uh, there is a, um, a news story out today.
01:09:28.620
Okay. Several Democratic, listen to this, several Democratic lawmakers have expressed concerns
01:09:35.160
as their constituents. Democrats are, have concerns about their own constituents growing
01:09:44.300
increasingly frustrated with what they view as inaction. Okay. So we're on that, right? I'm
01:09:51.600
concerned about our party, but what are we saying? We're saying next time they are up for election,
01:09:58.940
we vote them out, right? That's not where the Democrats are. According to Democrats quote,
01:10:06.000
this is representative Brad Schneider of Illinois. We have people who are desperately wanting us to do
01:10:11.640
something. No matter what we say, they want more. The expectations I'm quoting are not just unreal.
01:10:18.900
They are dangerous. Some of them have suggested, suggested what we really need to do is be willing
01:10:26.420
to get shot. What I have seen is a demand that we get ourselves arrested intentionally or allow
01:10:34.200
ourselves to be victims of violence. And a lot of times that's coming from economically, very secure
01:10:40.540
white people. Not only would that be a gift to Donald Trump, not only would it make the job of
01:10:45.840
Republicans in Congress easier if we were all mired in legal troubles. We are a group that is
01:10:51.000
disproportionately people of color, women, LGBT people, uh, and people who do not fare very well
01:10:57.000
in prison. Democrats are concerned because of the, uh, historic victory and what is all meaning.
01:11:05.360
I'm quoting our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough. There needs to be
01:11:11.720
blood to grab the attention of the press and the public. It's like the Roman Coliseum. People just
01:11:18.640
want more and more of this spectacle. That's from the Democrats about their own supporters.
01:11:28.780
I told you this would happen in 2008. It is only going to get much worse. You cannot
01:11:35.840
do two things. You cannot embrace radicals and communists and anarchists and expect them to calm
01:11:46.020
down when you need them to calm down. You can't do it. It's not their nature. You cannot use people
01:11:53.660
because if they figure out that they've been used, they come after you. They are willing to die,
01:12:02.380
but you're not. And so they will turn on you. This is my warning to them forever. Since, since Michael
01:12:12.620
Moore was put in the box in what, 2006, the presidential box, 2004, this was my warning.
01:12:19.120
They will turn on you and then it gets dangerous for you first. Now they're doing it and we are seeing
01:12:28.320
an increase in violence. And the violence is coming from the Democrats, not all Democrats.
01:12:36.700
The Democratic leaders are now expressing that their own constituents are saying,
01:12:42.420
you need to get shot. There needs to be blood in the streets. That's not American. Now,
01:12:50.420
a few of these Democrats are coming out and saying this. But what was the other warning I gave you?
01:12:58.320
The Democrats will then cower in fear because they'll have no place to run. Do you remember
01:13:06.700
that monologue I did on Fox off the top of my head when I said, you people in the press,
01:13:11.580
you think you're fine. You think you're fine. You Democrats that are cozying up to these radicals
01:13:19.520
in the streets, you think it's going to come out on us. They are going to drag you and me
01:13:25.120
out into the middle of the streets and beat you on to death on live television and they will celebrate it.
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this is why, this is why the truth on Epstein is so important. And I, I, this sounds so stupid
01:13:48.920
because Epstein, that's not going to change anything. It's not going to change anything.
01:13:54.240
Whether he, whether people go to prison or not, it's not going to affect, you know, the operation
01:14:00.800
of the government. What will change things is the truth that there was no coverup, that he acted his,
01:14:10.320
by himself, or that there was a coverup and that everyone is involved and that he is a Mossad
01:14:17.720
agent or a CIA agent or whatever. The details don't matter at this point. This is so important.
01:14:25.200
And I haven't, I've tried for two days to try to explain this and I haven't found the right words yet.
01:14:30.500
The details don't matter. What matters is that people start to believe there is justice.
01:14:38.860
We were talking earlier and I, I'm afraid to go back to Jason because he's been doing more research.
01:14:43.800
And, you know, just what he found just, you know, yesterday is shocking enough. The tape that is out
01:14:50.940
is, of course, not those two green doors. Those aren't the doors. Everybody just assumed those
01:14:56.620
were the doors. Those are not the doors. They're not even looking at that floor. They're saying,
01:15:02.440
look past the guardrail to the floor downstairs and you will see a couple of jail cells.
01:15:09.340
But those cells, those aren't even his, his cells. Then also it was discovered yesterday
01:15:17.560
that there is an edit in the tape. And, um, let's just say nothing happened. Let's just say nothing
01:15:27.400
happened. Listen, I don't believe this, but let's just say that there was no edit. It was just a digital
01:15:32.500
jump in the tape. Now I've not seen that happen, but let's just say it did.
01:15:38.680
Who is so unbelievably incompetent in Pam Bondi's office that they release this tape. You did not
01:15:47.620
have an intern look and say, there's a minute missing here. You didn't, you didn't, if you want
01:15:55.500
to say, well, it was just a minute. It was just a jump. It was no big deal. You say that when you
01:16:01.300
give it to people. Now, here's the one thing that I just cannot, I can't excuse the people that are
01:16:10.360
involved in this. Many of them are very good with the press. They know what they're doing.
01:16:17.680
They know how to tell stories. They know what they're doing. Why? Why for the love of everything
01:16:24.580
good and sacred? Why for the good of the Republic? Wouldn't you say this when you're releasing it?
01:16:39.460
You're just adding fuel to the fire. What is wrong with you? Pam Bondi should step down.
01:16:47.720
She should be fired or she should step down. This is the worst rollout. First of all,
01:16:53.260
I've got it on my desk. All of the names, everything that's going on. I got it on my desk
01:16:57.820
and we're going to be releasing it. Okay. Let's just take the most innocent. She didn't read it.
01:17:04.780
She didn't know what was sitting on her desk. She had a bunch of papers on her desk and there was
01:17:08.000
nothing in it, but she made it sound like there was something in it. Okay. Mistake. Then how do you
01:17:15.020
cover that mistake? Remember it was a couple of days later. We can't release it because there are
01:17:21.700
forces inside the FBI in New York that are stopping us from getting this information.
01:17:32.600
I said at the time, then why aren't you up there arresting those people? Why isn't there a SWAT
01:17:37.200
team up there? Why aren't you taking those people out in handcuffs? Well, the logical conclusion there
01:17:43.540
is because that wasn't happening. Now I gave Pam Bondi the benefit of the doubt and said, well,
01:17:50.180
let's see. There's, you know, I'm going to give her a year. I can't give her a year. Can't give her a
01:17:54.120
year. This is absolute incompetence at the very best. Jason doesn't believe I'm trying to give
01:18:01.580
everybody the benefit of the doubt. I'm trying not to go down a conspiratorial road because I don't
01:18:08.560
know what to believe now. Jason will not give Pam Bondi the benefit of the doubt on that.
01:18:15.040
I don't, the way, and I want to address like some of the social media reaction. And I think most of
01:18:20.060
the country's reaction over the past few days, because a lot of us were told this video was
01:18:24.620
the definitive proof. It's like, ah, we've seen the video, you know, he must've killed himself.
01:18:28.980
But as you're looking, if you, when, as you look at this video and you compare it to the OIG report
01:18:34.260
from two years ago, I don't see how you can say definitively that this video shows you anything
01:18:41.340
at all. For, for one, this is the only camera angle that is actually on this floor that is
01:18:48.200
recording any video. As we said before, there are four other cameras that were recording a live
01:18:54.960
stream or were showing a live stream, but weren't recording anything. So there is no record what
01:19:00.740
they had. And I want to read this part from the OIG report. It just kind of struck my funny.
01:19:05.760
It said, quote, as the OIG has noted numerous prior reports, a bureau of prison staff and inmates
01:19:11.740
are aware of where prison cameras are located. And here, listen to this, and often engage in
01:19:18.100
wrongdoing in locations where they know cameras are not located. So did they all know that the
01:19:25.980
other four cameras, they were there, they just were not showing any proof of what may or may not
01:19:31.340
be happening? I don't know. But I think it's interesting that I don't see how you can say,
01:19:36.240
look, this video proves anything. Because as you're looking at the video, if there's that figure that
01:19:41.040
shows the actual diagram, even when you're looking at the OIG report, it shows where the camera is
01:19:46.660
focused and the field of view that it has, it shows that the stairwell leading up to Epstein's
01:19:51.580
little block, little cell area is in full view. Well, it's not. You can barely see the left side
01:19:58.220
of the staircase that actually goes up to his cell block. Barely see it. So if you're hugging the
01:20:03.360
right side, you could easily just hug up and go right up to the cell very easily. Wait, wait, wait,
01:20:08.060
I don't understand what you're saying. Go back to that video you were just playing. You're saying the
01:20:12.520
staircase in this video is going up to his cell block. But you just told me, because that's what
01:20:19.180
I originally thought. But then we were talking about earlier today, and you said his cell is down
01:20:25.760
below that stairway. It's down on that floor below. So you see the downstairs area is like the common
01:20:36.440
area. You have to walk up the stairs. You see like in the left-hand side, that's a stairwell going up to
01:20:41.340
the cell blocks and that one little wing. It's the same thing on Epstein's side. There's a little
01:20:45.960
stairwell that goes up to his little area on the right side, but it's not fully in view.
01:20:54.780
Okay. I don't think I, I think isn't that stair on the other side of that, uh, of that little gate
01:21:00.700
there, uh, of the, you know, of this, okay. The banister on the other side of that, that is there a floor
01:21:09.300
that is there, or does that go down? It's a lower floor. Lower floor. Yeah. So the lower floor is
01:21:14.340
like the common area or where the security guards like hang out, you know, they have their little
01:21:18.300
desk. You can see it right there. That's the lower floor. Then you go up to this, to the actual cell.
01:21:24.320
That's insane. That's even worse than I thought it was. That's worse than I thought it was. That's
01:21:30.020
even, I mean, I thought, oh my gosh, that's, that's worse. I don't, I don't know how you can say,
01:21:36.460
like I said, I don't see how you can say this is the entrance and the, so we can therefore rule out
01:21:40.940
any wrongdoing because you could even, it doesn't even address if there was an inmate that was in
01:21:45.080
one of the other cells across or next to Epstein cell that was led out to go do something to him.
01:21:50.760
You can't even confirm that. And any of the other cameras that could put any context to this again,
01:21:56.700
four, four others were not recording, but a lot of this is older news, but it's now a lot more relevant
01:22:04.200
today because we were told this camera was the definitive proof. It's not right. And again,
01:22:08.860
does not prove that he was murdered. It doesn't, it does just does. It doesn't do the job that
01:22:14.720
they're trying to make it do, which would be to disprove it. And Glenn, like, and that's the
01:22:18.860
problem. You can't just keep adding weak things that make you question more. Stop it. Is it possible,
01:22:25.540
Glenn? They're looking at this and saying, we have a, a campaign promise that was made that we're
01:22:30.900
going to release this stuff. So we got to get it out the door. Let's check the box on that.
01:22:34.500
At the end of the day, the only people who are, who really care about this are a bunch of talk show
01:22:40.100
hosts and like political obsessives on Twitter. Really? We are not, and I will say this to back
01:22:45.800
that theory up. There's no evidence that this is hurting Donald Trump. No, because it hasn't hit
01:22:50.480
Donald Trump yet. People understand this is the Epstein case. Now they don't understand that this is all
01:22:56.800
about justice. And I don't think that anyone, Pam Bondi certainly does not understand that this is,
01:23:04.920
this just started a clock ticking on all of the other things that people are expecting somebody
01:23:10.920
to be arrested for. Okay. Or to be explained this, this is started the clock to, it would have been
01:23:17.720
better not to say or do anything and let people go, well, maybe they're working on something.
01:23:22.640
Right. You know what I mean? This is bad. And Donald Trump has a lot of credibility with his
01:23:29.720
supporters. I, I'm not bringing this to Donald Trump's level at this point, but when, if this
01:23:36.600
is the way they're going to handle everything, it's eventually going to get to him. And that's
01:23:40.640
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All right. You know, we're going to go through the schematic here on this video because, you know,
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we looked at the floors. Stu's been putting together something. I assume you're going to do this on your
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show today? No, I mean, no. I was just doing this to show. All right. So he's put this schematic
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together and he's outlined how easy it is to get past this, to get to his cell. We'll send that to
01:26:04.700
the controller and we'll have it for next hour. Because again, again, it's incompetence.
01:26:14.200
And we have to be people of truth. Look, the reason why this is so urgent, I just told you that the
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Democratic Party is now starting to say they're afraid of their own constituents because they're
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demanding their blood, not our blood, their blood. You've got to get shot to grab attention to stop
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this fascism. That's crazy. Okay. So things are being ratcheted up. Somebody has to be a teller of
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The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck
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about how the Democrats now, according to Democrats, speaking openly to the press about it, are now
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saying that their constituents are becoming a little scary because they are demanding blood. Blood on the
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streets. Somebody's blood. Even politicians' blood. I think you saw this and everybody just kind of
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brush by it awfully darn fast. The killing of the local politician or the state politician
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in Minnesota. Wait a minute. She votes with the Republicans on something. She doesn't want to,
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but she just believes it's the right thing for the state. She even cries about it when she talks about
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it. And then they kill her a week later. And nobody seems to care. That was a message. I truly believe
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that was a message. Two Democrats from the left. You walk out of line with us and you're dead.
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And a little blood would be helpful in the streets. This is a very dangerous time we're living in. And
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that's why we must guard our credibility really, really carefully. Now we're going to take you through
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the schematic. I just tweeted it out. So if you have, you know, X, just go to my X page and just
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grab my tweet and look at the schematic because I'm going to, I'm going to share it with you here in
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just a second. If you happen to be watching Blaze TV, then you'll see it on Blaze TV. But it is important
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to ask ourselves if this is the video that Dan Bongino saw, what is it we're missing? Because I believe Dan
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Bongino, I must be missing something that he, or maybe this isn't the video that he saw. This is
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the video that Pam Bondi and her people sent out yesterday. And now that we've had 24 hours to look
01:31:03.500
at it, there's an edit in it. It doesn't seem to show anything about his jail cell. And we'll show you
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how easy it is to get around this one camera. And this is the only camera. Something's not right here.
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What is it we're missing? Or what is really happening? We'll do that here in 60 seconds.
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preborn.com slash Beck. That's preborn.com slash Beck sponsored by preborn. Okay. Stu has put
01:32:54.580
together a schematic, uh, of the cells. I mean, you didn't put it together, but you did a little,
01:32:59.460
you, you, I did one squiggly red line. Right, right, right. And then I think it's important
01:33:03.780
to look, uh, because I think, can we put the video up of what they released first? The video,
01:33:09.800
um, what you're seeing on these two green doors, most people think, oh, well that one of those
01:33:14.220
or the one off to the side by the phone, that must be his cell. It's not, it's not. Um, if you have
01:33:20.260
to look down the stairs and through the guardrail into the next room, that's the common area, but
01:33:27.780
they're right next to the second green door, right by the edge. You see, I don't even know if
01:33:33.720
you can see it. It looks like you can see maybe the beginning of the stairs on the other side
01:33:39.780
that would lead it. Those stairs would lead up to Epstein's cell block. So you're not seeing
01:33:44.340
anything. And when you really understand what you are looking at this video, um, you don't have to
01:33:52.380
edit this videotape. You don't have to edit it because there's no, I mean, there's a million ways
01:33:57.200
to avoid the, the, uh, camera. If you know that that's the one camera that's on, it's so easy to
01:34:04.040
avoid it. And let me show you the schematic that Stu put together. Um, I love that I'm getting credit
01:34:10.780
for a schematic. This is a schematic from the OIG report. Yeah. And I drew one red squiggly line.
01:34:16.100
Okay. So you need to see the upper tiers. The upper tiers are on the left-hand side, uh, in kind of the
01:34:22.500
orange. And you will see where, uh, Epstein's cell is. Uh, it's way away from any camera,
01:34:31.660
completely away from any camera. Well, there, to be clear, there are cameras, just none of them are
01:34:36.300
recording anything. Yeah. There's one, two, three, four, four cameras, four cameras that would see
01:34:42.460
every important area. All of them are not working. The one that doesn't see the area is working fine.
01:34:48.840
It's working fine. All right. Again, it's a lot, a lot to handle. Okay. So, um, now let me look at
01:34:55.240
the blue section because this is the downstairs in the common area. This is what you're looking at
01:35:00.040
through the, you know, through the guardrail you're seeing down, you're seeing a part of this common
01:35:05.480
area. So take us through this too, because this is incredible. So basically you're seeing a good
01:35:12.340
chunk of the common area. Their argument would be to get to Epstein's cell block. You must cross
01:35:18.460
through this common area, which is true. You would need to go through that if these schematics
01:35:23.920
are as accurate as we understand them to be. You would not be able to get there from any other
01:35:28.100
angle. Um, however, there is, if you look in the, and I'm explaining this to the radio audiences as
01:35:33.960
well. Did you post this on Twitter as well? Yeah, it's on Twitter. Go to my Twitter. You can see
01:35:38.040
this. Uh, it, it coming out of Epstein's cell block, staying close to the wall where his cell
01:35:43.560
block is, staying close to the wall that comes under where the camera is, you are essentially
01:35:49.020
taken, you can exit the entire cell block without being seen by that camera relatively easily if you
01:35:55.900
knew what to do, right? Like if you just stumbled through the middle of there, you would be seen.
01:36:00.740
But if you were someone who, let's say, had a reason to kill a very famous pedophile, um, you could
01:36:07.800
easily enter and exit without being seen by that camera at all, at least by my view. I don't see,
01:36:14.400
and I don't think that that's, uh, there's a mistake there. Now, this of course doesn't address
01:36:19.560
the idea of potentially another inmate being, uh, let out in his cell block, which you can't see at
01:36:24.960
all. Uh, that could easily be another, another explanation for someone, um, you know, uh, killing
01:36:31.860
Epstein and not being seen on this video. To be clear, this video does not prove that Epstein was
01:36:38.220
killed. It doesn't. What it does not achieve in my mind quite clearly is to make it impossible for
01:36:47.640
that to have occurred, right? Like you can absolutely, you, there's a path out of a door
01:36:53.700
that comes directly below where the, uh, one working camera is staying close to the, uh, the
01:37:01.920
wall as you exit that door. Uh, and you would avoid the camera entirely. You'd be able to go up those
01:37:08.140
stairs. You might have to stay on the right side of the stairs, but that's about it. Um, and then
01:37:13.100
you, you, you walk up there and you're there and you can do the same thing on the way back and exit the
01:37:17.620
cell block really with no problems. I mean, like you could recreate this Glenn, if you, if you want it to
01:37:22.700
be, and if you were Nathan Fielder and had a giant HBO budget and wanted to do a rehearsal of the
01:37:27.600
situation and very easily, uh, get there and back without being seen by that camera. Um, so I think
01:37:35.400
it, you know, it just doesn't do the thing it's attempting to do. The only reason to release this
01:37:43.220
video is to persuade people who are very much on the bandwagon that Epstein did not kill himself.
01:37:51.040
Mm-hmm. And there's no way this video would achieve that goal. So there's really no point
01:37:56.420
in it. Dan Bongino is a friend. Dan Bongino is somebody I trust. Dan Bongino does not lie.
01:38:02.840
You know, he's not part of deep state. I need to know from Dan, what is it about this video that
01:38:09.060
you saw? If this is the video he was talking about, it has to be right. Cause no other cameras
01:38:13.100
were working. I would assume so. Now, if you look at this, the schematic actually shows which cameras
01:38:16.760
are working, which aren't Glenn. I don't know if you noticed that on there, on the schematic I put
01:38:20.300
together. Um, and, uh, you see the, uh, there's a bunch of cameras, one, two, three, four in the
01:38:26.740
cell block on both floors, uh, uh, that have red boxes around them. Those are the ones that aren't
01:38:33.480
working. All of them would have seen, uh, the area not covered by the one camera that is working.
01:38:39.920
All of them would have seen it, which is incredible. I really, and now if in one other
01:38:45.080
interesting details, if you look on the lower floor schematic that I created, uh, and you walk
01:38:50.760
this path out, there is one other camera in, uh, the, uh, non cell block area, the area where the
01:38:58.220
guards would, would do things, which is working. However, would not catch a person walking out,
01:39:04.660
uh, to the one exit door. It is, it is fascinating. Now, I guess it is someone who would be
01:39:12.100
somewhere. There's a camera. I don't know if it's the parking lot or something. I'm sure there's
01:39:16.140
some camera, but I don't know that you'd be able to determine who the person was if you want to
01:39:20.420
believe this conspiracy. Uh, and, and I don't mean even a conspiracy in a demeaning way, but a
01:39:25.000
conspiracy in that, you know, someone was working together to, to get this done.
01:39:29.340
And this is such a red herring because yes, it's important to know if he killed himself or somebody
01:39:36.920
killed him. Okay. Yeah. It's important. It's not, it's not, it's not the top of my priority list.
01:39:41.120
It's not, it's not, you know, none of the Epstein stuff is at the top of my priority list. Um, this
01:39:46.920
is just a, a, a symptom when you're not seeing other people go to jail for you, watch them with
01:39:56.060
your own eyes, commit perjury. And there's not that they're not even trying to put them in jail.
01:40:02.980
It seems there doesn't seem to be anything from the DOJ moving. Pam Bondi's office is not issuing
01:40:10.560
anything. Congress is doing their part, turning everything over. And then what happens? Jason,
01:40:17.500
I, I, yeah, I think we can all agree that this video doesn't show anything, but can I just to throw
01:40:22.920
another coal in the fire? I'm just trying to rationalize what the FBI or DOJ are relying on.
01:40:28.220
So if it's not the video, perhaps it's the prison guards, maybe it's the prison guards. Maybe they
01:40:33.040
had a very detailed report. Well, if I may read another portion of the OIG report, this is talking
01:40:39.080
about multiple different, um, uh, prison guards that were assigned that night during this, when this
01:40:45.680
happened, it said during their shift, they each created and submitted falsified official bureau
01:40:52.220
of prison forms, documenting inmate counts, often referred to as count slips and completed and signed
01:40:58.320
more than 75 separate entries on an official BOP form documenting 30 minute rounds, uh, often referred
01:41:05.560
to as round sheets, falsely stating that they had conducted rounds when in fact they had not.
01:41:12.540
So we have people lying. We have cameras, not working, uh, falsified reports, uh, and a video
01:41:19.720
that doesn't really show us what they said it showed us. I, maybe the curious mind would want to look
01:41:25.860
into that possibly. There's also a sign that was posted. It's in the report as well. Camera up here
01:41:31.640
is on. Make sure you skirt this wall. No, it says, uh, says mandatory rounds must be conducted every 30
01:41:40.360
minutes on Epstein as per God. So the sign says, so they were supposed to go see him every 30 minutes.
01:41:48.860
I guess they falsified those. Yep. They falsified them or, and, or slept through them. All right,
01:41:53.500
let me go to Ed in New York. Hello, Ed line eight. Hi. Yeah. Hi. Hi. Look, um, we can all agree that
01:42:00.540
the Epstein sting operation was to get a number of top officials to do what deep state wanted them to do.
01:42:08.880
So if I'm Trump, I don't think we can, we can't all say that we, we, we suspect that, but I don't
01:42:15.680
think that that's not, that's what we're trying to prove. A lot of people. Yes. I mean, there's a lot
01:42:20.280
of people that suspect a lot of things and it's definitely a possibility. Oh yeah, it is. It's a
01:42:26.560
very good possibility, but yeah, because otherwise, uh, uh, you look at Epstein had ties to the CIA.
01:42:34.120
Uh, there, there, there are not a whole lot of other reasons for doing some, an operation
01:42:40.200
this big and having presidents. So, so I, I, I'm not arguing with, I'm not arguing with your
01:42:45.920
conclusion, Ed. I'm arguing with, let's not start conversations with, we all know, we all
01:42:53.180
suspect, we all believe, or many of us do, but we do not know. And that's the problem. We must
01:43:00.800
have the evidence and why are they holding it back? It only makes our, we all feel, we
01:43:07.760
all know. Um, you know, it only makes that stronger. So I'm just trying to make sure that
01:43:13.480
we are not adding fuel to the fire on this. We have to guard our credibility. I listened
01:43:20.600
to your show a lot, but this schematic thing. Okay. Let me, let me finish my thought here.
01:43:25.960
Okay. All right. Go ahead. If I was Trump, if I was Trump and the other, I had all the
01:43:31.740
names of all of these people, why release them? When I can call these people on the phone
01:43:38.240
and say, I have you on the Epstein list and now you're going to do what I want.
01:43:44.140
Wow. You would do that, Ed? Yeah, of course you guys. I love you. I really do. I listen
01:43:53.700
to you almost every day, but this is hardball. This is hardball. I don't. So Ed, I don't
01:44:02.380
believe ends justify the means ever. And it is hardball. That's why I have your name. I call
01:44:07.500
you up. I have your name. I have all the evidence and I am putting your ass in prison for the rest
01:44:13.460
of your life. That is, that is what justice is. When you take a wrong and you then do something
01:44:21.680
else that is wrong and you let, in this case, a child molester get away with it because I can
01:44:29.180
get him to do what I want. That's blackmail. That's, I mean, you've become what you're trying
01:44:34.440
to destroy. No, but people listen, this goes out. Law enforcement uses junkies all the time
01:44:41.760
to catch bigger junkies. Okay. And everybody knows that if you want to make an omelet, you
01:44:47.500
got to break a few eggs. Said by Stalin or Mao. They have crucified this guy. Crucified him.
01:44:55.660
I understand. 31 convictions. All of that stuff. And if I was Trump, look, do you believe that
01:45:03.280
Trump's agenda is, is a just agenda and that he has, you know, I can't, I can't, I can't even go
01:45:10.500
down this road with you. I mean, you use the word they crucified him. Jesus didn't compromise and he
01:45:17.100
was literally crucified. There are, there are roads and see, this is where we get into trouble.
01:45:23.020
There are things when you start to say, you know what? The ends justify the means. The country is at stake.
01:45:32.080
So we will blackmail people. No, I want no part of that. Now you might, but I don't. And so I can't,
01:45:40.080
I can't go down with that road. I think we agree on a lot of stuff, just not that. And I got to go
01:45:47.780
hit a network break. Thank you for your call. The number is 888-727-BECK. My Patriots apply. Been
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thinking about this lately. I mean, you know, that kind of thinking is exactly what the Democrats are
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01:46:02.900
There has to be blood in the streets. Well, look at what they're doing. Look what happened.
01:46:08.600
You know, that's their excuse on us. Look at Donald Trump is a fascist and we all know it.
01:46:14.060
No, you don't know it. You think it, but where's your proof? Uh, okay. Gosh, I'm sorry. I,
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you know, I know a lot of the audience is going to disagree, but I, I, I am who I am. And this is
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What? It's a fascinating day. It is a fascinating day. You know, I, I, I, uh, I worry about our,
01:48:02.700
I worry about our, I worry about everything. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, there's something that I'm going
01:48:09.860
through personally right now that is such a grave concern. It is on my, it's why I'm so
01:48:14.100
discombobulated here this week. Um, because there's something going on, uh, in my own personal
01:48:19.700
life and I'm, I'm really having a hard time sort through it. And it's all about this kind of stuff.
01:48:24.840
And, uh, it should be more clear. I think we're in the middle of talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
01:48:30.340
Can you be about, about, about compromises, about finding the truth, about knowing what the truth
01:48:38.620
is and facing the truth and not listening to hyperbole, whether that is from me or from another
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source, you cannot take other people's words for it. You must seek the absolute truth. You know,
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somebody asked me the other day, how do I find out about the big, beautiful bill? How do I know
01:49:00.560
really know what's in it? And I said, well, there's one way to really know what's in it.
01:49:03.660
And that is read the bill. Okay. Well, that's a lot of work, but that's how you find out what's
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really in it. You want to take a shortcut, put the bill in to chat GPT and say, based only on this
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document, the bill, can you give me an executive summary? And you can cross your fingers and hope
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that it doesn't lead anything out. But if you just ask chat GPT, what's in the big, beautiful bill,
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it's going to take it from all kinds of sources and you don't know what's true or not. You must
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The floods in Texas are such a tough situation. You can help if you can with Mercury One. It's
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mercuryone.org. Go to mercuryone.org. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad you're here.
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Stu is with me. Also, Jason Buttrill, who is our head of research and head writer for the TV show.
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What are we doing for TV tomorrow, Jason? Do you know? Have we decided yet?
01:51:34.380
Yeah, we're going into the socialist and communist takeover of the country. We're going to focus in
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on Mamdani and everything around him. It's fascinating.
01:51:43.440
Jeez, I have so many good things. You know what? Remind me tomorrow. I wrote some stuff up over the
01:51:49.000
weekend on Mamdani and just haven't gotten around to it yet. So I want to go into that tomorrow,
01:51:55.280
and then we'll do that tomorrow night as well for television. Also, part one of our interview with
01:52:01.940
Selena Zito on Butler. I started listening to it on tape yesterday. She is such a good writer. She
01:52:09.560
is such a good writer, and she really captures the red part of the country. She really explains it in
01:52:17.940
a way that I don't think anybody really, I mean, unless you're living it, you don't understand it.
01:52:23.520
And that's one of the big problems. I mean, we're going to talk to her about the killer
01:52:27.540
or the attempted killer, the kid who tried to assassinate Donald Trump. We're going to go
01:52:34.540
into that tomorrow in hour number two of the podcast.
01:52:37.860
You mentioned a book about, you know, Selena's book talks not just about that day, but also about
01:52:44.200
the election broadly, right? I haven't read it yet.
01:52:49.040
And assassination attempt. It's out today. There's been several books, of course, that have talked
01:52:52.180
about this. They're not going to have the same perspective as Selena.
01:52:57.520
She was down on the ground with an agent on top of her looking at the president having
01:53:03.160
an agent on top of him, and she could hear him talk to the agents.
01:53:09.180
The cover of the book is a picture she took, right? I think from right behind the president
01:53:19.800
Okay, so let me give you a story, a little bit of a story of another book as well. This
01:53:25.520
one's coming out, and it's more on the realm of, we've seen a couple of these books that
01:53:28.780
came from, we talked to one author from The Hill who came on early. There's the Jake
01:53:32.760
Tapper book that came out. There's another book that's the same type of thing looking at
01:53:36.400
the entire election. This is from a reporter from the New York Times, the Washington Post,
01:53:43.920
Three different reporters. No, three different reporters working together from those three
01:53:51.440
Extremely left, even the Wall Street Journal. The editorial page is not, but actually the
01:53:56.300
Wall Street Journal is the most leftist out of those three.
01:54:02.800
So this is an incredible anecdote from this, though. The reporting comes from Axios about
01:54:09.200
this book. Tyler Pager, one of the authors of the guy from the New York Times, he got a
01:54:12.820
hold of Joe Biden's cell phone number as they're putting this together. Now, again, this is another
01:54:17.380
book that kind of shows and talks about the cognitive decline and stuff that went on. So
01:54:23.100
they reached out to Joe Biden on March 25th when he had been out of office for a couple
01:54:28.780
of months to ask questions about the book because Donald Trump is constantly answering random
01:54:34.620
calls from reporters. He does this all the time. I mean, it's like it's probably one of his
01:54:40.280
This is what the what the book says. Biden said he would be willing to speak for this
01:54:45.920
book the next day. The author is right. The next morning, he answered and said he was running
01:54:50.500
late to catch a train. He said he had a very negative view of Trump's second term. I don't
01:54:55.760
see anything that he's done that's been productive, he said. Asked if he has any regrets about dropping
01:55:00.020
out of the presidential race. He said, no, not now. I don't spend a lot of time on regrets.
01:55:04.520
He quickly hung up and got on the train. After the first call, the book continues. Furious
01:55:11.600
Biden aides repeatedly called and texted the journalist. After the brief second call, his
01:55:19.520
aides blocked the reporter's calls to the former president. Two days later, a message
01:55:25.060
from Verizon Wireless replaced Biden's voicemail. The number you have dialed has been changed,
01:55:30.700
disconnected, or is no longer in service. So again, a New York Times reporter, not Glenn
01:55:39.040
Beck. A New York Times reporter. I mean, you're not favorable towards Biden. There's no secret
01:55:44.940
there. This is a New York Times reporter who calls and says, hey, we want to ask you some
01:55:50.200
questions about the book. He agrees, answers again, and then just blows them off and I don't
01:55:55.680
know, maybe fakes a train or is really getting on a train. And then a former president. Yeah.
01:56:00.540
The former president is getting on Amtrak. Getting on an Amtrak. That's Joe. That's that's
01:56:08.160
lunchbox Joe. Yeah, it is. And then the reporter then gets harassed by aides who are apparently
01:56:15.240
still working for Joe Biden. These same people that were, by the way, responsible for hiding
01:56:20.040
all of this in the first place. And then they disconnect his cell phone. I mean, because
01:56:27.440
one reporter is making phone calls to the former president, you're disconnecting his cell phone.
01:56:33.340
I would assume a lot of people had it, but apparently that's enough to just get just one
01:56:38.420
call from a reporter is enough to get your cell phone disconnected if you're a former president.
01:56:42.280
And look at the difference. What are they hiding? Everything. Everything. You know,
01:56:48.080
what's amazing to me is what Donald Trump has done. He is such a genius. What he has done by
01:56:54.440
answering everybody's questions is he's completely cut the evening news and CNN and everything out.
01:57:01.420
Yeah. You know, it used to be that the president wouldn't talk to report. You'd have to wait for
01:57:06.420
these press conferences. Okay. And Joe Biden had none and nobody said anything, but every time they
01:57:13.320
would, every president I've ever seen, they've only had 63 press conferences in the last 63 days,
01:57:20.360
you know, and there's never enough. Donald Trump has invited people into the Oval Office, which they
01:57:27.180
always do. They take pictures and then they, they escort them out and he'll just sit there while he's
01:57:32.220
working, signing stuff. And he'll just take 45 minutes of questions all the time. What does that
01:57:40.420
mean? Why do I have to go to CNN to hear speculation about what he's probably thinking and what he has
01:57:49.260
and answered? I'm hearing him asked and answered all of these questions every single day. He's cut the
01:57:56.540
news completely out. You just go right directly to the source, him. And like, in a way it's disarmed
01:58:02.020
all the typical attacks against a president because he's always out there talking. He's always out
01:58:06.940
there, you know, you might argue saying things that the media would find controversial, right? He's
01:58:12.780
always saying things that would light the media on fire. Like, I love my country. I know, awful things
01:58:18.200
like that. That's terrible. But I mean, what's interesting about it is it's almost a lesson learned by
01:58:22.600
social media. I remember very early in your, uh, career to bring up a memory that you're not going
01:58:27.440
to love. Um, you were writing on the chalkboard and in the middle of a word, you stopped and started
01:58:34.180
a new thought and then sort of came back to the word. And in that process, this memory, in that
01:58:41.840
process, you misspelled the word. So you're Mr. Teacher on a chalkboard and you're, you're almost
01:58:47.300
doing a, uh, uh, Dan Quayle, right? Misspelled the word. That was the accusation. I'm a horrible
01:58:51.880
speller anyway, so it doesn't matter. Well, but at the time that was really rare to see a public
01:58:58.420
official, a guy on TV, misspelling a word somehow on TV. And so the left went crazy with it and
01:59:04.480
everyone went, you know, tried to make it into this big deal and say how stupid you were. Now in
01:59:08.020
reality, when you watch the video, you could tell you're in the middle of spelling the word.
01:59:11.020
You kind of stop, you turn back to the camera, you start talking in, you join the word kind
01:59:15.080
of mid thought and you just missed a letter, you know, in the process, whatever. It didn't
01:59:18.840
make any difference. Now everybody has seen everyone misspelled nine zillion words on social
01:59:25.320
media. Everyone sees it every day. And like, in a way, this is what's happened with Trump
01:59:30.420
and that like, at the beginning he would say something like when he said, you know, uh,
01:59:34.400
when he was criticizing John McCain, I remember when that, when he first did that, I remember
01:59:38.180
thinking, oh my gosh, like this is going to be huge. It was a huge scandal for a few days,
01:59:41.320
but now there's been nine zillion things and the zone is, is flooded. And he's doing
01:59:47.560
this in a way with reporters. He's out there telling them stuff every day. All of them want
01:59:52.120
it to be the biggest story in the world, but it can't be because there's a new one that
01:59:55.320
just happened. And he's figured out this strategy and almost applying the lessons of, of social
02:00:00.660
media in a way that, which, and obviously he's excellent at social media as well. Um, and
02:00:05.500
he's being able to sort of disarm this completely there, there are no controversial statements
02:00:11.180
from Donald Trump because the left finds all of them controversial and they always say it
02:00:15.180
and you roll your eyes and you move on with your life and his constant communication with
02:00:19.680
the people has disarmed their power. It really, it's worked. It's very well. It has look at the
02:00:28.440
difference of the power of the press. And that's not just because they discredited themselves and
02:00:34.720
everything else. It, and, and not just because of social media's power, but because he has put the
02:00:40.600
final nail in their coffin, the next president comes up. And if he's back to doing traditional
02:00:45.200
press conferences, it will go back to that. But because he doesn't do the tradition, he does them,
02:00:50.780
but then he also does all of these, you know, I'm just going to answer, I'm on my way to the
02:00:54.780
bathroom. Anybody want to come with me in the hallway? We can answer questions. I mean,
02:00:58.460
he's just constantly answering questions. So he's disarmed that entirely.
02:01:04.720
Yeah. And it's amazing. We, we did the, um, we did a, uh, uh, show, I don't know,
02:01:09.540
a couple of months ago. And I was like, you and Pat were on, I was like, Hey, like, here's a story
02:01:13.740
that we normally would have paid attention to. And we haven't even mentioned. And when you guys were
02:01:18.200
trying to guess it, and then I was saying, it's actually that there was a brand new, uh, anchor
02:01:22.840
of NBC nightly. Oh, that's right. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was like, I don't know,
02:01:25.940
maybe two months ago, something like that, maybe a month and a half ago. Um, and so I was, uh,
02:01:32.320
we did that on the air and talked about it and like, we didn't even know who the person was and
02:01:36.680
we just kind of joked about it. It's like how irrelevant is the media? Still haven't seen it.
02:01:40.480
So I was on with Megan Kelly last week and the media came up and we were talking and that same
02:01:47.100
thought popped into my head. And I said the same thing to her, like, you know, did you even know
02:01:51.320
there was a new anchor of NBC nightly news? And she goes, Oh really? Who is it? Now Megan's on top
02:01:56.660
of this stuff. She follows the media stuff really, really closely. She hadn't even heard. And that
02:02:01.660
was, I don't know, four to six weeks. And it just makes the point that these people don't matter
02:02:08.300
anymore. They're no longer germane to the conversation. That's a, I mean, I think overall
02:02:14.380
a very good thing. So here's who does matter now. However, um, you know, if you look at what's
02:02:21.660
coming out, for instance, um, you look at what's coming out about how Donald Trump had
02:02:28.820
cut the budget and fired people at Noah. And so all these kids died in this flood in Texas
02:02:36.740
because Donald Trump, and we're not going to add somebody in my life actually say to me
02:02:42.940
yesterday, he's going to destroy Noah. We will not, he's making it. So we will not know if
02:02:50.320
there's any storms coming anywhere in the country. Be a fascinating approach for a man who owns
02:02:56.480
multiple coastal properties in Florida. He just doesn't care. And what, what is happening is people
02:03:05.400
are just taking it from news feeds. Okay. In their social media and these, these, and I would say this
02:03:15.440
about any of us, you should not take anything from me and not check it. Okay. That was good. But if you
02:03:22.660
are, if you are listening to the Sierra club, you should know, even if they're on your side, it's the
02:03:29.660
Sierra club. You know, if, if I get something from the GOP and you know, they're not really on my side
02:03:36.160
and I'm not really on their side, but you would think that I could get something from the GOP and I
02:03:41.000
would believe it. I don't, I don't. And neither should you. If you are on the left, you shouldn't
02:03:47.380
believe something that's coming from the DNC. You shouldn't believe any of this stuff, right?
02:03:52.300
That's where, that's where your weakness is, right? Yes. But, you know, I, I always find that,
02:03:56.300
um, you know, you try to check everything. It's hard to do. I always try to enter something,
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a story with, uh, with a skeptical eye to make sure, you know, I'm not falling for something that,
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you know, I have priors, I have prior beliefs and I want to make sure I'm not caught by my priors.
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The things that I believe though, most frequently are going to be when the left says something that
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I agree with. Yes. Right. I'm much more apt to say, oh my gosh, wow. They're, they're backing up,
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you know, something that I already agree. Yeah. Or when someone on my side says, actually the left
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is right on this one. Yeah. I'm much more apt to believe that when it's someone that I trust,
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you know, that, that, that normally is right and normally agrees with me. And then they're like,
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actually on this one, you should check because yeah, I'm much more, I'm much more apt to be
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like, whoa, I better look at this. Right. You know, when I hear a person on the left,
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say the left thing, like, you know, it could be true, but it also, and the same thing with the
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right. And the same thing with the right. And I think a lot of times people, that's where the
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weakness is. Like if you're on the right and someone on the right says something, it is,
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you're like, oh, I'm going to go along with that because it's agreeing with me. And I trust that
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person at, you know, it's important to look at some of that stuff skeptically, you know,
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you have to be able to try to spot that. It is also, you know, I get something from the
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heritage foundation, which, you know, I like the heritage foundation. So I get something from the
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hair and I'm just making this up using as an example, I get something from the heritage
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foundation. I am not going to quote the heritage foundation. I will say to a friend, I just saw
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this from the heritage foundation. Look at this. And I will use that to back up my side of the
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argument after I've done my own homework to make sure that the heritage foundation is right about
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that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because especially if you're using it as an argument,
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I use the heritage foundation. Nobody's going to believe me on the heritage foundation from the
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left. And I'm not going to believe you because you listen to the Sierra club. No, that doesn't,
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there's no benefit of that. There's no benefit of that. If you can find something that's in the
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heritage foundation report, and then you, it might lead you down a road that might help you with
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the source that they're more friendly to. Correct. That's a helpful tactic. But again,
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people have jobs and lives, you know what I mean? Like, I know. And a lot of people just don't,
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then you should zip it. Then you should zip it and just say, this is what I think I know.
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Welcome to the program. Who's on tomorrow? We have Selena Zito. And who else was just booked
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