The Glenn Beck Program - The SCARIEST Haunted House and Why It SHOULDN’T Be Banned ｜ Guests： Russ McKamey, Bill O’Reilly, & Megan Phelps-Roper ｜ 11⧸1⧸19

00:00:00.000 It is a story that I actually bought from him to make a movie out of probably 2008 and held his story and just couldn't get it made and couldn't find the time and yada yada yada and finally gave him the story back to to publish a book because I think it's one of the most incredible stories you've ever ever heard.

00:00:26.280 Uh, so make sure you don't miss don't miss tomorrow's podcast. It's incredible. This guy, what he has gone through and endured and he beats himself up still today. He's still healing. But when you hear this story, it will blow your mind, blow your mind. All right. We have, we have, what is it? The McKamey, uh, manor.

00:00:52.480 We have a guy who runs the scariest haunted house, uh, in the world. In fact, he'll give you $20,000 if you can complete it. Uh, it lasts 10 hours. It's a three to four hour waiver. It takes you three to four hours to sit and go over the waiver before you go in. It's a crazy story. Next.

00:01:22.480 All right. So there are, there are a hundred houses and then there's McKamey Manor.

00:01:48.340 McKamey Manor, uh, his, has been a, if I can call it this, a haunted house at different locations for over 30 years.

00:02:00.200 It has, it's, it's, it's called the scariest haunted house in the world, but it's not really a haunted house.

00:02:08.580 You go in one at a time.

00:02:11.920 The waiver takes you three to four hours to go over and complete.

00:02:20.260 And if you complete the haunted house,

00:02:24.740 the owner, the guy who runs it will give you $20,000.

00:02:30.020 Again, it's been running for 30 years.

00:02:33.200 No one has ever collected.

00:02:37.420 Russ McKamey, the owner of the Manor, joins us next.

00:02:45.220 This is the Glenn Beck program.

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00:04:18.160 McCamey Manor.

00:04:27.320 Not your standard haunted house.

00:04:29.920 It's an audience participation event in which you, as an individual, will live your own horror movie.

00:04:37.520 You have to be in great health.

00:04:40.440 You have to be drug-free.

00:04:43.540 You have to have a doctor's slip, I believe.

00:04:47.520 You go through all kinds of things that you must complete, including a three- to four-hour release form.

00:04:58.260 And of all things, you also cannot swear.

00:05:03.740 This is the craziest thing ever.

00:05:07.080 Russ McCamey is the owner.

00:05:10.720 He's been doing it for about 30 years.

00:05:12.960 And there is actually a petition now to get him to stop doing it.

00:05:20.000 Nobody's hurt by it.

00:05:22.180 It's not any kind of sexual gratification kind of thing.

00:05:26.580 This guy used to be in the military.

00:05:30.760 And knows how to get to people.

00:05:34.360 And he is a fascinating individual.

00:05:38.180 Russ, how are you?

00:05:42.080 Do we have Russ on the...

00:05:43.580 I see him there.

00:05:44.500 Do we have him?

00:05:47.360 For some reason, we can't get him on the phone.

00:05:50.980 All right.

00:05:51.400 Can you call him back, please?

00:05:53.440 For some reason, our phones aren't working.

00:05:55.500 This is really going to piss me off.

00:05:57.920 Yeah.

00:06:00.040 There he is.

00:06:00.800 Russ, how are you?

00:06:02.000 I'm here.

00:06:02.580 Yeah, where are you guys at?

00:06:03.640 Oh, we're here.

00:06:05.220 We're just your worst nightmare.

00:06:07.120 No, actually, I can't.

00:06:09.900 I really cannot understand what's happening here.

00:06:14.000 Because everything I've heard about you is that you are a really good, normal, nice guy.

00:06:22.100 And yet, you bring everybody's worst nightmare to reality.

00:06:27.880 Yeah, they get kind of hysterical about this whole thing.

00:06:32.080 And I don't know what the deal is.

00:06:34.320 I mean, it happens every year around this time of the year.

00:06:37.540 You know, the whole shut McCamey Manor down.

00:06:40.200 But no, I don't get it either.

00:06:41.380 It's just that...

00:06:42.080 Well, I do get it.

00:06:42.940 I make these crazy movies.

00:06:44.560 I make these wild YouTube films.

00:06:47.300 And they look scary because they're supposed to look scary.

00:06:50.000 I mean, I'm a filmmaker.

00:06:52.160 So I'm trying to make it look as scary as possible.

00:06:54.460 And people just get really upset, blow things way out of proportion.

00:06:59.380 And now they're doing anything and everything to shut me down.

00:07:05.380 And I don't know if it's going to happen.

00:07:06.700 I mean, this is America.

00:07:08.340 This is, you know...

00:07:10.200 Well, look, Russ, here's the thing.

00:07:12.900 I am so intrigued by you.

00:07:17.320 You're a fan of the show, are you not?

00:07:20.320 Yeah, absolutely.

00:07:21.180 Yeah, okay.

00:07:22.180 So you're... 0.99

00:07:23.660 I mean, a lot of people on the left would say that shows how sick you are. 0.91

00:07:27.500 But I'm fascinated by you because you are a... 0.96

00:07:32.060 You are a...

00:07:34.820 You don't seem to be doing this just for hype or for kicks.

00:07:39.260 You've never hurt anybody, right?

00:07:42.140 No.

00:07:42.680 Okay.

00:07:44.040 No, it's not that.

00:07:45.560 No one gets hurt.

00:07:46.560 It's very safe.

00:07:48.040 It just seems frightening when you're going through it.

00:07:50.880 It's all just a big show, big illusion.

00:07:54.420 But I definitely have a few people kind of fooled into thinking it's something other than it is, I expect.

00:07:59.900 Right.

00:08:00.320 But you have been...

00:08:02.100 I've seen a video where you've buried a person except for their open mouth.

00:08:08.100 Well, yeah, of course.

00:08:09.160 Yeah, well, yeah.

00:08:10.120 Well, yeah, of course.

00:08:11.140 Of course, obviously. 0.99

00:08:12.260 You've got to put a cage over somebody's face and then bury them alive. 0.99

00:08:15.560 Yeah. 0.91

00:08:15.840 Well, obviously.

00:08:16.880 I mean, who hasn't done that before?

00:08:19.600 Right.

00:08:20.320 Right.

00:08:20.900 Right.

00:08:21.400 So I'm wondering...

00:08:22.820 Let's just start here.

00:08:24.000 Why do people do this?

00:08:31.020 They're just major adrenaline junkies.

00:08:34.140 These are people who have lived and they've done all the bungee jumping and skydiving and then all the exciting things out there and nothing really affects them anymore.

00:08:43.740 So they come to me like, oh, I really want to feel this again.

00:08:46.360 I want to feel what it's like when I rode my first roller coaster or saw my first scary movie.

00:08:51.220 Help me out, Russ.

00:08:52.140 Help me out.

00:08:52.820 I'm like, okay, I can help you out.

00:08:55.260 That's bizarre.

00:08:56.920 So it's definitely not some sort of sexual thing.

00:09:03.560 There's none of that going on.

00:09:05.900 No.

00:09:06.400 In fact, there's three very, very big rules in the matter.

00:09:10.700 There's nothing sexual, there's nothing inappropriate, and there's nothing religious.

00:09:15.880 So we keep it.

00:09:16.540 There's nothing, you know, satanic or I mean, there's nothing like that in there whatsoever.

00:09:21.060 Never has been.

00:09:21.760 It's very PG-13.

00:09:23.900 It's just like an Indiana Jones ride on steroids kind of, you know, and like you mentioned, there's no cussing.

00:09:29.060 I mean, how scary can it be?

00:09:30.720 There's no cussing.

00:09:31.940 Well, there's no cussing.

00:09:33.540 You are, you find, everybody starts with 20 grand.

00:09:37.120 And then I understand that if you cuss, you're docked $500.

00:09:43.100 So there might be cussing, but they're penalized for it. 0.82

00:09:48.380 That's right.

00:09:49.100 That's right.

00:09:49.680 Okay.

00:09:50.080 You learn real fast.

00:09:51.160 Well, I won't say that anymore.

00:09:53.480 And so, yeah.

00:09:54.380 So now each of these are custom to each person?

00:09:59.640 Because aren't you just doing really enhanced interrogations?

00:10:06.260 Basically, yes.

00:10:07.560 And it's customized for that one individual or two folks that go through per week.

00:10:13.620 It's funny, you know, we talk to their parents or talk to their family and friends or the coworkers,

00:10:19.220 and they're more than willing to throw them under the bus.

00:10:22.040 They're more than willing to give us all the dirt about what really scares them.

00:10:25.980 And so we do a lot of investigative work to find out what's going to make a good show of that individual before anything starts.

00:10:34.160 So there's a lot to it.

00:10:35.320 It's not just showing up and going, okay, I'm here, Russ.

00:10:37.680 Torture me now.

00:10:39.300 You know, and I hate that word because no one's tortured anyways.

00:10:43.540 But, you know, that's what the audience seems to think.

00:10:46.620 And that's why that petition has gained so much speed, which is just incredible.

00:10:50.900 It's like 80,000 plus, you know, signatures now, maybe more than that.

00:10:56.360 It's over a haunted house, over somebody just doing a hobby.

00:11:01.820 It's not even a business.

00:11:03.200 It's just my little old hobby.

00:11:05.240 People pay you in dog food, right?

00:11:08.980 Dog food, yes.

00:11:10.200 One big bag of dog food helps towards the rest of the animals.

00:11:15.540 Yeah.

00:11:16.140 So that's it right there.

00:11:17.620 It is.

00:11:18.220 It's crazy.

00:11:19.280 Okay.

00:11:19.580 All right.

00:11:20.560 Let me just add to it.

00:11:22.080 Is there, I mean, if you go through enhanced interrogation, I know Navy SEALs and I know

00:11:29.100 people in the military who have gone through it for real.

00:11:32.740 And it does psychologically scar you.

00:11:37.660 Well, hopefully we're not scarring anybody.

00:11:40.200 It's not as intense as if you went to like SEER school, which is search and rescue and

00:11:45.280 survival school, that type of thing.

00:11:47.040 And our BUDS training, you know, which is SEAL training.

00:11:50.200 It's not like that, but I definitely do take aspects of what I learned in the military after

00:11:57.120 23 years.

00:11:58.080 And it's just a lot of common sense.

00:12:00.460 I mean, you know, I do hypnosis, which everybody knows I do that.

00:12:04.740 And I'm not hiding it from the audience.

00:12:06.880 When they first come here, one of the first things on the contract is saying, you know

00:12:11.200 that I'm going to try to hypnotize you.

00:12:14.360 Now, I may not hypnotize everybody, but I'm going to give it my old college try here.

00:12:18.140 Because if I can do that, then they're like putty in my hands at that point in the game.

00:12:23.900 And so there is mind control techniques, but in a fun kind of way, not in fun.

00:12:29.180 That's what's so crazy about this is you, I've seen videos where this woman is just, 0.99

00:12:36.200 she looks like, and I know it's not, but she looks like she has blood all over her face. 1.00

00:12:40.620 She looks like she's in hysterics and she's got something in her mouth that's keeping

00:12:44.940 her mouth open.

00:12:45.880 And you're, and you're like, okay, it's about to get intense.

00:12:51.260 You're like, what?

00:12:53.140 Are you okay with that?

00:12:54.860 Are you okay?

00:12:55.580 You seem like Santa that is bringing somebody through hell.

00:13:03.120 Maybe a little bit.

00:13:04.640 I'm always checking on people.

00:13:06.440 I'm always stopping the show to ask if they're mentally and physically okay to go on.

00:13:11.940 And that's what a lot of people don't see.

00:13:13.660 If you saw that little tidbit, and that's probably a mistake in editing, but who knows?

00:13:18.220 I'm sure it's out there, but I do.

00:13:19.840 I'm always trying to make sure that people know and that the, that the person going through

00:13:25.040 knows that they're safe and they have total control.

00:13:28.040 They can stop the show anytime they want to.

00:13:31.080 This, this deal of not having a safe, safe word that ended several years ago.

00:13:36.140 Cause there was a time, I have to admit that we didn't offer a safe phrase and they signed

00:13:41.060 up to go as long as we wanted them to go.

00:13:44.240 Oh, wow.

00:13:45.680 Wow.

00:13:46.480 But, but now, but now, yeah, there's absolutely a safe phrase.

00:13:50.660 So you would be fine, Glenn.

00:13:51.820 I think you might want to try this just as a, you know, no, what's the longest anybody's

00:13:57.560 gone since you've had the safe phrase, Russ, how long is, because you say, well, the show

00:14:03.180 can last up to 10 hours, right?

00:14:06.980 Right, right.

00:14:07.660 So the way it works is that you have to start the clock.

00:14:11.380 You have to do an event, grab a key, open a door, do something to start the clock.

00:14:16.820 Once you start the clock, then your 10 hour meter is on, but nobody has even started the

00:14:23.500 clock yet.

00:14:24.780 Oh my gosh.

00:14:25.660 Wait, wait, wait, you've buried people with their mouth open.

00:14:37.040 That's not on the clock.

00:14:40.260 You have to get to a certain point of being buried.

00:14:43.380 You have to have a certain depth, so to speak.

00:14:46.040 And once you get to a certain point, now the clock starts.

00:14:48.640 Now, I must say, there is one woman who's actually coming back here again in November. 0.74

00:14:55.920 She's been through it nine times, and she's this solid, upstanding individual, you know,

00:15:03.220 who works in Washington, D.C., and a big high player, and she just loves the stuff.

00:15:08.780 But we counted up how much time she spent inside the actual manor.

00:15:12.820 And she's been inside 45 hours of actually doing activities, 45 hours of doing different

00:15:20.640 things.

00:15:21.480 So, my God.

00:15:21.980 Is it Elizabeth Warren?

00:15:23.320 There's a lot to be in, dude.

00:15:24.860 Is it Elizabeth Warren?

00:15:26.220 Nancy Pelosi?

00:15:27.460 Yeah.

00:15:28.980 Have you ever had like a Navy SEAL or Delta Force try this?

00:15:33.960 I have.

00:15:34.420 You have?

00:15:34.860 I have.

00:15:35.460 And they have not made it through, huh?

00:15:37.620 They have not.

00:15:38.800 They have not.

00:15:39.320 And I get a lot of military folks.

00:15:42.860 In fact, military folks are my favorite because they have their head on a swivel.

00:15:47.140 They know how to overcome and adapt.

00:15:48.780 They know how to, you know, they're not knuckleheads.

00:15:51.640 And this is definitely a non-knucklehead zone. 0.95

00:15:54.820 And, you know, we don't want the crazy ones.

00:15:56.740 We don't want the ones that are just trying to come here just for the money.

00:15:59.600 Because if you're coming here for the money, you're going to be really upset when you leave

00:16:04.140 here because you're not going to walk away with anything because the manor is always

00:16:07.600 going to win.

00:16:08.860 But in a fun way, you know, it really is fun.

00:16:12.580 And that's why the testament to that is why people come back time and time again.

00:16:17.100 No, it doesn't sound fun.

00:16:18.460 No, it doesn't sound fun.

00:16:20.400 It just does.

00:16:21.600 I'm telling you, you got to try it.

00:16:23.040 You got to try it.

00:16:23.240 No, I'm not a candidate for this.

00:16:26.940 Let me hypnotize you.

00:16:28.760 Yeah.

00:16:29.600 All right.

00:16:30.460 Hang on just a second.

00:16:31.800 We'll continue with Russ McCamey from the McCamey Manor.

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00:18:04.160 All right.

00:18:13.840 So Russ McKamey from McKamey Manor.

00:18:17.820 You're in Tennessee, a place called Summertown, which I believe the Heat-Mizer had to give 1.00

00:18:25.980 it to his brother so it could snow there one Christmas.

00:18:30.760 But you are you're how does the town react to you?

00:18:37.320 Oh, they oh, they they went crazy over me and they and they still do in a good way or a bad way.

00:18:43.320 In a bad way, at least at least the leadership, you know, the leadership I first got here,

00:18:49.080 they put out a community alert saying, get this guy out of town.

00:18:52.840 This is where he lives.

00:18:53.860 Go get him.

00:18:54.600 You don't want him here.

00:18:55.420 You go tell him you don't want him here.

00:18:57.180 Basically, I had a target on my back for quite a while.

00:19:00.780 And then and then the town folk, they started kind of coming around my way.

00:19:06.340 They started meeting me and thought, this guy's OK.

00:19:08.940 It's not like what we thought he was.

00:19:11.340 But but the leadership's a whole different ballgame because they kind of put their neck

00:19:15.220 out there saying we're going to get him out of town no matter what.

00:19:19.120 And that hasn't happened.

00:19:20.280 So they're still looking for ways to to get me out of town.

00:19:24.400 Is that what happened to you in San Diego or did you did you just move?

00:19:28.100 No, no, no, that's a rumor.

00:19:29.700 That's a rumor that OK, room of that.

00:19:31.840 That probably I started because I like to start a lot of stories.

00:19:37.200 I love a guy who says I probably started.

00:19:43.740 Can't confirm nor deny.

00:19:45.680 Right.

00:19:46.120 Right.

00:19:46.880 Yeah.

00:19:47.620 Right.

00:19:48.040 OK, so now let me give you some things.

00:19:49.980 The petition claims that you hire employees with violent histories and you make people

00:19:56.140 ingest pills that cause hallucinations.

00:20:00.060 Right.

00:20:00.640 Well, first off, there are no employees because it's just a little old rust.

00:20:04.100 So you come to the manor.

00:20:06.080 There is nobody here except me against the contestant.

00:20:10.240 That's it. 0.74

00:20:10.760 My noggin against their noggin. 0.92

00:20:12.580 And their job is just not to let me get in their head.

00:20:15.640 So that's not true.

00:20:17.380 Um, in San Diego, we had some actors, but as far as what their backgrounds were, I have

00:20:23.340 no idea, never heard about violent histories or whatever.

00:20:27.240 So that's a nice little story.

00:20:29.260 Um, the, the pill situation, again, here's, here's where people have to put on their logic

00:20:34.940 caps. 0.66

00:20:35.340 And I know it's hard to do sometimes for certain folks, all those ones who signed that silly 0.56

00:20:39.640 petition.

00:20:40.040 But if I was really, really doing things that were illegal and giving medication to people

00:20:46.840 and torturing people and doing this and that, that would be illegal.

00:20:51.580 I don't care where you're at.

00:20:53.040 That's not allowed.

00:20:53.960 So there must be something more to the situation.

00:20:57.400 And that's where the hypnosis comes into play.

00:20:59.960 Cause if I hypnotize you, like I was saying earlier, I can make you believe whatever I

00:21:04.560 want and that's the magic of the manner without giving too much away, just kind of add two

00:21:10.380 and two together and realize that if that, if all this stuff is going on, that's in the

00:21:15.880 petition, I wouldn't be here right now.

00:21:17.480 I'd be locked away in the birdcage theater someplace.

00:21:20.320 I'd be gone.

00:21:20.980 The petition says this, you're literally running literally, I'm quoting a kidnapping and torture

00:21:26.580 house.

00:21:27.020 Some people have had to seek professional psychiatric help and medical care for extensive

00:21:33.300 injuries.

00:21:34.340 Jeez.

00:21:35.600 I know.

00:21:36.120 It sounds, sounds amazing.

00:21:37.360 Yeah.

00:21:38.520 It's good PR, but that's about all it is, but they can write.

00:21:42.940 It just goes to show you they can write whatever they want.

00:21:45.140 And what they're doing is they're, they're just taking their own thoughts based upon movies

00:21:50.520 that are five, six, seven years old that I made back in San Diego.

00:21:54.060 So they're not basing anything upon the reality of what it really is.

00:21:58.960 And in fact, every show, before every show, I called the police.

00:22:02.940 I let them know what I'm doing.

00:22:04.460 I, I volunteer for them to come down and watch the show anytime they want to law enforcement,

00:22:10.500 the district attorney, anybody can come here unannounced anytime they want to with cameras

00:22:16.320 in hand, film everything they want, but no one ever does.

00:22:19.680 So no one's ever taken me up on my offer to actually see what I do.

00:22:24.700 Instead, they do things like the petition.

00:22:26.920 All right.

00:22:27.180 So if you wouldn't mind hanging on just a couple of more minutes, I want to, I want to talk

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00:22:35.560 You know, some of the, the weirder things that you've had to do to freak people out and

00:22:41.720 get them to not win the 20 grand.

00:22:44.320 Also the four hour waiver process, what that's all about.

00:22:50.040 When we come back.

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00:24:29.620 So we have Russ McCamey on, he is the owner of McCamey Manor, uh, McCamey Manor.com.

00:24:51.620 You might have seen an episode on Netflix of dark tourist, uh, that is really quite, uh, frightening.

00:24:59.600 Uh, and you'll see, you know, you'll see military guys go through and they won't make it an hour

00:25:05.140 with Russ and they're tough guys.

00:25:07.580 Uh, it is, it's truly a frightening haunted house.

00:25:13.280 If you will, he's on with us now.

00:25:15.640 Um, you know, is water, waterboarding is considered torture, right?

00:25:22.000 Right, right, right.

00:25:23.420 Actual real waterboarding is torture.

00:25:25.600 Correct.

00:25:26.040 You do a form of waterboarding though, don't you?

00:25:29.420 Well, I mean, there is a lot of water at the haunt.

00:25:32.760 It is a, it is a water ride for sure.

00:25:36.220 Water ride.

00:25:37.020 So you're, you know, so it's like going to the water park is all, and, uh, cause water

00:25:42.300 is, uh, it's a great way to, uh, to motivate people.

00:25:46.940 Now we have, we have, we've done waterboarding here at the studio.

00:25:51.120 Pat and I waterboarded stew.

00:25:53.240 Uh, we use sure.

00:25:54.720 Yeah.

00:25:54.840 We used ensure, but it was too chocolatey.

00:25:57.660 He couldn't handle it.

00:25:58.840 He couldn't handle it.

00:26:00.000 He, he thought, he thought he could handle it with the chocolate opposed to water, but it

00:26:04.920 was just too chocolatey for him.

00:26:07.020 Uh, we, we have a guy on staff, uh, who is trained in enhanced interrogation techniques.

00:26:15.180 And he said, a, that when I told him you were on this morning, he said, oh, I'd never

00:26:23.160 go because you're never going to win.

00:26:26.380 You can't, there's no way to win.

00:26:28.460 Everyone breaks.

00:26:30.100 True.

00:26:31.180 Right.

00:26:31.860 Yeah.

00:26:32.360 Absolutely.

00:26:32.840 He says he knows cause, um, he will neither confirm nor deny.

00:26:39.080 Uh, but I, I, I know some, you remember the Harry back guy from, uh, from, uh, Al Qaeda 0.96

00:26:46.160 that we got years and years ago.

00:26:48.180 Sheikh Mohammed.

00:26:48.640 Yeah.

00:26:49.140 He was right.

00:26:50.120 He was at least around the area when they were talking to that guy.

00:26:54.620 Um, and, uh, and, and I'd like to send him with a bag of dog food just because I'm a good

00:27:01.040 employer, uh, and, uh, put him through your course to see how long he lasts.

00:27:08.420 Sure.

00:27:08.900 We can do that.

00:27:09.760 All right.

00:27:10.180 Absolutely.

00:27:10.660 All right.

00:27:11.140 Now, let me ask, let me ask you this, Russ, uh, you had really tough guys.

00:27:18.080 What is the, what's the shortest amount of time somebody has lasted, uh, in, in, in the

00:27:26.760 manor who was a tough guy or thought he was a tough guy?

00:27:31.420 Oh, that's, that's easy.

00:27:33.020 Uh, I'd say half the people quit during the contract, so they don't even get inside the

00:27:37.800 manor.

00:27:38.420 So these rough and tumble guys, once they read what's coming down the pike for them, 0.99

00:27:43.440 they're like, no, I don't think so.

00:27:45.620 I'm, I'm done.

00:27:46.600 I really, so is that part of it?

00:27:48.940 Is that part of it is the, is the release form.

00:27:52.480 Is that part of the psychological workup?

00:27:56.380 Absolutely.

00:27:57.060 And that's also where I do all the hypnosis too, because I'm not, I'm not so good that

00:28:01.460 I can hypnotize somebody in five seconds.

00:28:03.360 Like some people can, I need several hours with them.

00:28:06.680 I need to really get inside their noggin.

00:28:08.600 I need to do all the repetitive words.

00:28:10.920 I need to do all the things, all the tricks that it takes to hypnotize somebody.

00:28:14.560 I need that time.

00:28:15.900 So I'm not so good that I can just click my fingers and you're hypnotized.

00:28:20.560 So time is important.

00:28:22.280 Time is on my side.

00:28:23.480 And that's why, that's why when you first get there in the morning, you're, you're,

00:28:26.840 you're there at, you know, like 10 AM and you're there until sunset.

00:28:31.160 And then when, uh, when the sun goes down, the fun begins.

00:28:34.260 So, so this is also wearing, this is also wearing people down.

00:28:39.260 So by the time they hit the manor, you've already worn them out.

00:28:44.540 Absolutely.

00:28:45.240 Cause we do a lot of physical activities during the daytime.

00:28:48.260 I call it kind of, kind of a mini bootcamp.

00:28:51.440 And this way, this way it's important.

00:28:53.540 I need to know what type of physical activities and they can do what they can't do.

00:28:58.140 So I'll have them hold their breath underwater, you know, in a nice way, not, not in a violent

00:29:03.400 way, but I'll just say, well, how long can you hold your breath?

00:29:05.660 Because these are things I need to know because there is breath holding inside, you know, whether

00:29:11.160 it be dirt or whether it be water you're going to deal with.

00:29:14.480 I need to know these things.

00:29:15.820 So during the daytime portions, that's when I'm finding out what their limitations are.

00:29:21.000 And then I'll work around that because the last thing we want to do is have anyone get

00:29:24.860 hurt.

00:29:25.440 So I really need to know where they stand physically before they roll inside the real show.

00:29:31.760 What is the, what is the most common fear?

00:29:35.660 And what is the, what is the fear that you thought, wow, I'm, I have, I'm going to have

00:29:42.200 to work on that one for a minute.

00:29:44.920 Most common fear is definitely water.

00:29:47.980 Water is the great equalizer for sure.

00:29:51.500 And because there's so much of it being used, it's always on you.

00:29:54.800 You're either cold or, but you know, if it's hot outside, you're glad the water's on you,

00:29:59.400 but you're either getting cold or you're just, you're just wet and comfortable.

00:30:03.360 It's not always in your face, but, but you're always wet and it just drains you.

00:30:09.140 It drains your body after hours and hours of having a big, heavy onesie on.

00:30:14.520 Cause everybody has to wear these crazy onesies, like a bunny rabbit or a cow or something. 0.84

00:30:19.720 You got to be something, you got to be something silly when you're inside the haunt.

00:30:23.900 It just looks so goofy on film, but there's also a reason why I do it because it weighs 0.95

00:30:29.520 you down.

00:30:30.520 You get those big old suits all full of water and it's hard to move.

00:30:34.440 It's just another, another means of tiring you out.

00:30:36.900 Absolutely.

00:30:37.340 And what is the, have you, have you met with anybody that you thought this one's going

00:30:43.800 to be hard to crack or this person's fear is unusual?

00:30:47.180 I did a few weeks ago.

00:30:50.720 We had a war veteran who lost both his legs, the double amputee.

00:30:57.920 And I thought, how in the world am I going to put this guy through the show?

00:31:02.680 But he is a really motivated young man who is a rock climber.

00:31:07.260 One of those really athletic guys, you know, he weighs 170 pounds,

00:31:11.900 followed as a rock, but he's got no legs.

00:31:15.100 And I thought, should I even do this?

00:31:17.280 And I thought, you know what?

00:31:18.160 He's so motivated and it's so inspirational that I was like, I couldn't say no to him.

00:31:24.020 And this guy just kicked it.

00:31:26.360 This guy was great.

00:31:27.980 He did everything we needed him to do.

00:31:29.840 I didn't need to dumb down the show whatsoever.

00:31:33.740 Eventually, I think the water and just fatigue is what got to him.

00:31:37.980 But he held in there just as long as the big rough tough guys with all their extremities.

00:31:44.900 It was incredible.

00:31:45.920 I mean, really inspirational.

00:31:47.580 I've never seen anything like it.

00:31:48.980 Men break slower than women? 0.95

00:31:53.240 No, no.

00:31:54.360 Women are much stronger. 1.00

00:31:56.200 Oh, no, by the far.

00:31:57.280 Because it's mainly psychological, right?

00:32:01.040 Absolutely.

00:32:01.900 Yeah, the women have a much higher tolerance to my little shenanigans than the guys do. 1.00

00:32:09.720 Why is that?

00:32:10.580 They don't fall for it.

00:32:11.320 Why is that?

00:32:12.040 You know, I just think women are tougher overall, right? 1.00

00:32:15.400 We all have women in our lives and they're just tough. 1.00

00:32:18.200 Come on.

00:32:18.520 We have to admit, guys.

00:32:19.800 Women are tougher than we are. 1.00

00:32:22.160 We know that.

00:32:23.420 So for being honest with ourselves, they go through some really amazing ordeals in their life and things that a lot of guys would say, no, I don't think so.

00:32:35.660 And I think that there's a lot – I think there's something to – girls – I've had girls – I've had boys raising them.

00:32:43.640 Girls are mean. 1.00

00:32:46.520 Girls are mean to each other when they're in, you know, their teen years. 1.00

00:32:50.880 They go through some really nasty things in school years.

00:32:56.800 Yeah, I agree.

00:32:58.020 And they're very competitive.

00:32:59.520 I mean, they're much more competitive than the guys are.

00:33:01.760 The guys are like, eh, this is fun.

00:33:04.060 But the women are like, no, this is serious, Russ. 1.00

00:33:06.680 Bring it on.

00:33:07.180 Bring it on, Russ.

00:33:07.920 We're doing this right now.

00:33:08.900 And do you use animals?

00:33:11.320 I do.

00:33:13.600 Lots of spiders and snakes and scorpions and rats.

00:33:18.780 And rats?

00:33:19.940 A lot of bugs.

00:33:21.380 Yeah, little rats.

00:33:22.260 But they're field mice.

00:33:23.980 But field mice – field mice are worse because they're smaller, they're quicker, and they love to get inside your clothes.

00:33:30.080 Oh.

00:33:30.560 So, as you're – you know, and then they stay in there.

00:33:33.620 And so now you're walking around the rest of the day with field mice in your little outfit.

00:33:38.440 Oh, my.

00:33:38.660 And they're just – yeah, yeah, that's what I say.

00:33:42.240 Oh, my gosh.

00:33:43.300 No.

00:33:43.740 Could you make it through, do you think?

00:33:45.660 Could you make it through your own show?

00:33:48.260 Yeah, because I know how it works.

00:33:51.020 Yeah.

00:33:51.340 But if I didn't know how it – I didn't know how it worked, then no.

00:33:55.740 No.

00:33:56.100 So no one's going to make it through.

00:33:57.800 You know, just be really clear with that.

00:33:59.540 And that's why when people come here, they need to come here for the right reason because they want to push themselves and they're coming here just because it's entertainment.

00:34:08.360 And it really is fun and a testament to that.

00:34:10.820 No, it doesn't sound fun.

00:34:11.800 It doesn't.

00:34:12.660 You know who it sounds fun for?

00:34:13.960 You know, honestly, if you watch, like, Mission Impossible and you see – and, you know, I don't know.

00:34:19.220 I don't imagine that there are very many people, if any, people like this where, you know, he's rock climbing without any rope or anything.

00:34:29.320 Right.

00:34:29.640 Right.

00:34:30.080 And he gets his thrills doing that because his life is so crazy.

00:34:35.380 If those people really exist, I could see those people saying, oh, I want to go through this.

00:34:41.120 They're out there.

00:34:43.680 I mean, they fly in from all around the world to take on this little challenge.

00:34:47.600 It's amazing.

00:34:48.260 It's not a local thing.

00:34:49.200 But the locals don't go.

00:34:50.820 The locals have smartened up like, no way.

00:34:52.720 I'm not doing that.

00:34:53.480 But all these folks that fly in from around the world, you know, across the pond, and it's amazing.

00:34:58.640 They spend all this money to get here.

00:35:00.600 They spend their vacation time to get here.

00:35:03.020 So, I kind of – I'm hard-pressed.

00:35:05.620 I have to give them a good show because this means a lot to them.

00:35:08.880 Do they sell the dog food at the airport?

00:35:11.900 Because that's what I would do.

00:35:12.940 I would set up a little dog food stand there at the airport.

00:35:17.240 It's your dog food here.

00:35:19.180 Russ, has there ever been a person you thought was going to make it that you thought, okay, maybe they can go the distance?

00:35:27.840 Never?

00:35:28.320 No.

00:35:28.740 Wow.

00:35:29.540 Never.

00:35:29.800 How many people do you turn away?

00:35:33.020 Oh, my gosh.

00:35:34.620 I turn away thousands and thousands because the waiting list is – I can't even comprehend what it is anymore.

00:35:42.480 In fact, it's so big right now we have to go to a lotto to win a ticket here, especially since all this craziness.

00:35:49.740 You know, that's one thing that these petition people don't get.

00:35:52.400 All they did was just gain more attention to the manor and made it more popular.

00:35:57.000 I just hope that nothing crazy does go on because, you know, it is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:36:03.020 And this is just a hobby.

00:36:05.200 It's like saying, you know, Glenn, you like flying remote-controlled airplanes.

00:36:08.660 Well, you're no longer allowed to do that, Glenn, because we don't like what you're doing.

00:36:12.280 And it's the same thing.

00:36:14.620 Nobody's getting hurt.

00:36:15.820 It's not what the petition says whatsoever.

00:36:17.920 So it is frustrating because I have people coming out of the woodwork.

00:36:22.140 You know, this weekend I have an inspector coming out now.

00:36:25.220 They have to inspect for fire safety now.

00:36:28.120 And there's no fire safety codes.

00:36:29.720 But they're just doing whatever they can do to kind of harass at this point in time.

00:36:34.900 So it is kind of frustrating.

00:36:36.300 You only charge dog food for doing this. 0.97

00:36:38.960 This is something that, you know, you're doing it part-time.

00:36:43.100 Are you really actually a wedding singer as your full-time job?

00:36:49.040 Well, kind of as a part-time gig, yeah.

00:36:51.960 Like if you – there's a movie on Netflix called Haunters, The Art of the Scare.

00:36:56.660 That's a really good movie.

00:36:57.640 That's a feature documentary.

00:36:59.480 And it stars me.

00:37:02.320 And there's also the Dark Tourist one.

00:37:04.560 But Haunters is a feature film.

00:37:07.640 And it's got me doing the wedding stuff out there.

00:37:10.000 Yeah, if you go to djparty.org, you'll see me in all my glory out there entertaining folks and stuff.

00:37:17.520 So how scary can I be?

00:37:19.500 I'm a wedding singer.

00:37:20.940 Come on now.

00:37:22.460 It's bizarre.

00:37:24.140 It's just bizarre.

00:37:25.660 Russ, it's really good talking to you.

00:37:27.180 And best of luck.

00:37:28.360 And, you know, there is a part of me that says, you know, I don't know if we should be doing this.

00:37:37.240 But that part of me is that big government part that I hate.

00:37:44.960 You know, as long as everybody is a consenting adult and you're not hurting anybody and they know what's going on, I don't see why there's a problem.

00:37:56.360 Pat?

00:37:57.140 Oh, no.

00:37:57.680 It's a personal freedom thing.

00:37:59.500 Yeah, it's a freedom thing.

00:38:00.700 You have the right to do it.

00:38:01.700 As long as nobody's getting hurt, I don't know whose business this is.

00:38:06.100 Except between you and the person going through it.

00:38:09.600 Russ, thank you so much.

00:38:11.780 God bless.

00:38:12.500 Thank you.

00:38:12.960 You bet.

00:38:13.440 Bye-bye.

00:38:14.160 I think we send Jason.

00:38:16.240 If he's serious, I think we send Jason in a cameraman.

00:38:18.820 Is he willing?

00:38:20.240 Jason!

00:38:22.520 He's willing.

00:38:23.520 Absolutely.

00:38:24.160 He said earlier he wouldn't, but I bet we could convince him to do it.

00:38:27.680 All right.

00:38:28.600 You have $57,000 to spare?

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00:40:02.880 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

00:40:05.880 So, we have Jason in with us, our chief researcher.

00:40:33.240 Jason, you want to go?

00:40:35.940 I'll do it because I hate the big government aspect of this as well.

00:40:39.280 And I want to help him prove that, you know, about this.

00:40:41.700 Because I know everything involved in what he's going to do.

00:40:43.900 I know that I won't make it.

00:40:44.900 And I'll break it.

00:40:45.540 And I'll break.

00:40:46.320 But I'll do it only if we can send one of our, send our crew along with it to help improve this case.

00:40:50.820 Yeah, okay.

00:40:51.640 All right, we'll do that.

00:40:52.780 Now, what do we get if you don't last an hour? 0.72

00:40:57.400 Besides your eternal shame and humiliation. 0.55

00:40:59.700 How dare you, sir?

00:41:00.820 How dare you, sir?

00:41:01.780 Yeah, so let's get him back on the phone, you know, off air and see if we could arrange that.

00:41:07.460 And we'll send one of our cameramen out with you.

00:41:10.320 Because it's not right, I think.

00:41:14.600 I mean, this is pursuit of happiness.

00:41:16.620 And you may not like it.

00:41:17.940 And it may make you uncomfortable.

00:41:19.640 But intellectually, emotionally, I could say, oh, yeah, you know, that's not right.

00:41:23.760 But intellectually, no.

00:41:27.320 The guy is seemingly a really good, decent human being.

00:41:32.040 He doesn't allow people to swear around.

00:41:36.200 So, yeah, we'll see if you can get that lined up and we'll send you out.

00:41:40.840 All right.

00:41:41.220 Yeah, Merry Christmas.

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00:41:45.380 I wonder if he makes people listen to Bill O'Reilly.

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00:43:42.220 All right, so we have yet another person coming out and saying, and this is a medical examiner,

00:43:52.520 Jeffrey Epstein, this looks like it was murder, not a suicide.

00:43:58.680 And de Blasio now has come out and said, something doesn't fit, something's not right with Jeffrey Epstein's death.

00:44:05.800 Also, Adam Schiff on the lack of witnesses who say that Trump committed a crime.

00:44:13.280 Not just like, there's not a lot of them.

00:44:15.840 There's none of them.

00:44:17.600 None of them are saying he committed a crime.

00:44:20.800 The Pope says it's an honor to be attacked by American conservatives.

00:44:25.360 We know who the whistleblower is.

00:44:27.240 There is just so much to talk to the one and only Bill O'Reilly in 60 seconds.

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00:46:15.060 Mr. Bill O'Reilly from billoreilly.com and the author of the new book.

00:46:20.540 A new book called The United States of America According to Trump.

00:46:27.420 Welcome, Bill O'Reilly.

00:46:29.040 I want to start with this.

00:46:31.440 You've done an updated message of the day, which is 10 ways the impeachment process is hurting every single American.

00:46:39.980 Let's start there.

00:46:41.380 All right.

00:46:41.820 It's the United States of Trump, Beck.

00:46:43.700 I know it's a complicated thing.

00:46:45.220 It is.

00:46:45.940 I didn't read it.

00:46:47.340 I haven't seen it.

00:46:48.320 You read it and refer with Pat and Pat will tell you.

00:46:53.320 You see, if I was, if I want your listeners to know before we get into the heavy duty stuff,

00:46:58.460 if I were advertising on Beck, the United States of Trump, paying him money, he would be, he would know the title.

00:47:07.480 Nope.

00:47:07.620 And he could tell you the title backward.

00:47:09.920 Nope.

00:47:10.480 Okay?

00:47:11.040 He'd be sitting in the book.

00:47:13.420 You're the one that still wrote the book?

00:47:15.480 Wait, you're the one who still wrote the book?

00:47:17.020 I wrote the United States of Trump.

00:47:19.820 Right.

00:47:20.380 But I mean, in this, in this scenario where I'm doing advertising, you're paying me to do it.

00:47:25.600 And you are the author of the book.

00:47:27.940 Yes.

00:47:28.520 And I am telling everyone that you would not boot the title of the book.

00:47:33.080 Nope.

00:47:33.840 If you were being paid.

00:47:35.500 You are wrong, Mr. O'Reilly.

00:47:37.480 But let's get, let's get to the, let's get to the 10 things on how the impeachment is, is actually hurting the average American.

00:47:44.700 Yes.

00:47:45.800 There's nothing good about this.

00:47:47.220 Number one.

00:47:47.800 And if you see other people celebrating impeachment, you need to just pull them aside and say, do you understand that we all are in this together in this country?

00:48:00.020 That we have to have a functioning federal government trying to solve vexing problems, that we must have a robust economy to support 330 million people, most of whom want to improve themselves.

00:48:15.600 Do you understand that destroying the office of the presidency, not just the president, but the office of it, is counterproductive to freedom?

00:48:26.360 Do you understand any of that?

00:48:28.580 And you'll get silence because this isn't the way impeachment is being presented.

00:48:34.240 This is awful.

00:48:36.020 You know, I said earlier this week, Bill, that this impeachment, the, all of the so-called evidence that they're presenting on TV is not evidence.

00:48:46.840 And this is really reminiscent of the glove in OJ Simpson's case.

00:48:51.640 African-Americans wanted OJ Simpson to be innocent.

00:48:56.100 So it, it would be a win for them because of history of, you know, blacks getting crushed by the system. 1.00

00:49:03.140 They wanted this guy to beat the system.

00:49:06.140 And so the glove was, it didn't have really anything to do with the evidence.

00:49:11.440 They had bloodstains and drops in his car.

00:49:14.240 They had DNA evidence, everything else.

00:49:16.020 But the glove gave them permission to say, yep, he's innocent.

00:49:21.280 And the same thing.

00:49:22.440 Jury, certainly a jury thought that.

00:49:25.640 Right.

00:49:25.840 But the same thing is happening here with this.

00:49:28.220 This phone call is giving permission to people who want Donald Trump to be out.

00:49:34.420 It's giving them an easy way of, even though it's not based on any fact of, yep, we win.

00:49:40.700 He's out.

00:49:41.840 Sure.

00:49:42.520 And that's what it's all about.

00:49:43.480 The destruction of Donald Trump.

00:49:46.860 And whether it's Russian collusion or impeachment or whatever they'll come up with next.

00:49:53.360 Abuse of power.

00:49:55.040 It is a game now.

00:49:57.240 It's a game.

00:49:58.220 All right.

00:49:58.720 So someone's going to have actual board game like Monopoly.

00:50:02.600 And then you roll the dice and then you'll stop on a square and the square will say, Trump did this. 0.96

00:50:11.020 OK, it's ridiculous. 0.59

00:50:13.420 Now, I'm not in the business of defending Donald Trump, even though I wrote a book on him, a fair book. 0.59

00:50:18.740 It's not a pro-Trump book.

00:50:21.060 But I'm in the.

00:50:21.940 By the way, if you're looking for a great book to read, Bill wrote that book called The

00:50:27.240 Country According to the President.

00:50:29.120 Yes.

00:50:29.700 OK.

00:50:31.340 The Little Red Book by Mao Zedong.

00:50:34.120 There you go.

00:50:35.620 All right.

00:50:36.220 All right.

00:50:36.240 Go ahead.

00:50:36.480 So I'm in the business of trying to improve America.

00:50:43.980 And I've always been in that business.

00:50:45.740 And that's why I'm successful.

00:50:47.080 So whether it's books or commentary or radio, whatever it may be.

00:50:51.260 And I'm seeing this as, number one, a division in the country now based on hatred of one individual.

00:51:00.580 Now, there is a system attached to the individual.

00:51:02.900 I understand that.

00:51:04.140 But when you've got a guy like Adam Schiff, by the way, I am counting my trick-or-treats.

00:51:09.840 I went as Adam Schiff last night.

00:51:12.060 And it was not easy getting a shirt three sizes too big.

00:51:16.920 Not easy.

00:51:17.900 Right.

00:51:18.480 I did it.

00:51:19.420 Yeah.

00:51:19.700 Good for you.

00:51:20.220 I scared every urchin. 0.98

00:51:21.780 Urchins were screaming blood. 0.98

00:51:23.300 That is crazy.

00:51:24.640 So did you see the news that we know, we think we know who the whistleblower is now?

00:51:30.080 I reported last night.

00:51:31.600 We know.

00:51:32.160 Yeah.

00:51:32.380 It's a 33-year-old Yale guy who's a hate Trump guy who worked in the deep state and still is in Langley, Virginia, who was associated with Biden and with other people and has two best friends working for Adam Schiff.

00:51:49.700 And so it's a total con.

00:51:51.160 It's a total con.

00:51:51.960 I haven't heard anything about him for three weeks.

00:51:54.160 Yeah.

00:51:54.380 You know, it's interesting, Bill, is he is connected with Chalupa, who's a main figure on our chalkboard.

00:52:04.080 And we did the chalkboard about a month ago.

00:52:09.500 Five, I think it was five days later is when they said, yeah, don't worry about that.

00:52:14.920 We've got another whistleblower.

00:52:16.280 And as we find out now, this guy is connected directly to the storyline of our chalkboard.

00:52:25.900 He is evidence that it's true.

00:52:28.720 If this were a criminal case, we'd have been thrown out.

00:52:31.300 Yeah.

00:52:31.920 We'd have been thrown out.

00:52:32.860 Everything's gone because the original complaint is a fraud.

00:52:37.520 So it's gone.

00:52:39.020 What does it say to you that yesterday not a single Republican voted for this?

00:52:43.360 Big time for a win for Trump.

00:52:45.040 And the reason is that there are senators like Romney and Murkowski who hate Trump, hate him, and would vote to remove.

00:52:55.380 Now they can't, because if they do, they'll be blackballed by their own party.

00:53:01.920 And that would make me happier.

00:53:04.260 Yeah.

00:53:04.520 OK.

00:53:04.960 I mean, look, politics, politics.

00:53:06.720 But I was surprised.

00:53:08.160 I thought there would be a couple of Republican congressmen to vote for the inquiry.

00:53:13.660 Remember, this was a vote to continue the inquiry, to continue compiling evidence of a possible misdemeanor and high crime.

00:53:23.600 Not one person, not one witness, has said that it is a crime.

00:53:31.280 Not one.

00:53:31.780 So that is emboldened Donald Trump.

00:53:33.960 So let me give you some inside info.

00:53:35.540 Because you know, I know him pretty well.

00:53:37.360 I'm very good sources.

00:53:38.280 So there was a big meeting after the vote in the White House.

00:53:44.820 And why I shouldn't say big, because there aren't a lot of advisors in there.

00:53:48.140 And he doesn't trust Mulvaney.

00:53:49.640 Mulvaney is going to be gone in a matter of a very short time.

00:53:53.880 Mulvaney's out.

00:53:54.520 So there was a meeting of about five or six people who trusted him.

00:53:59.320 And they basically sat around and said, look, now let's let this go forward, because we have Nunez.

00:54:06.760 And this is a big key that every American should know.

00:54:11.420 Nunez is stronger than Schiff.

00:54:13.660 So Nunez is the minority guy on the House Intel Committee.

00:54:19.700 All right.

00:54:20.160 Devin Nunez from California.

00:54:21.720 He's stronger than Schiff.

00:54:24.360 So it's him and Schiff that will direct the questioning.

00:54:28.660 Nunez and Schiff.

00:54:30.200 And then in the summaries and the leaking to the press, it's Nunez and Schiff.

00:54:35.440 Nunez will be on Fox News every second of every day.

00:54:39.760 All right. 0.99

00:54:40.100 And so they believe that Nunez is going to kick Schiff's butt all over the place. 0.98

00:54:45.840 And this is going to directly lead to the re-election of Donald Trump. 0.98

00:54:49.760 So they're happy.

00:54:51.720 This is the first time that the president's been relieved.

00:54:54.680 I mean, last time we talked last week, I said I was worried about him personally because it was taking some emotional toll on him.

00:55:03.400 Now he's almost buoyant in the sense that he believes this whole thing has turned after yesterday's vote.

00:55:10.520 I would agree.

00:55:11.480 I think this week was a turning point in this.

00:55:14.480 And I think it's going to get worse and worse for the Democrats.

00:55:18.420 With one exception, what do you think is going to happen with John Bolton?

00:55:24.260 Because...

00:55:24.900 Very interesting.

00:55:25.300 Yeah, they keep holding him out like, oh, he's going to be the death knell for Donald Trump.

00:55:32.880 I don't know the ambassador that well.

00:55:35.720 I never used him on the O'Reilly Factor.

00:55:38.460 Not once.

00:55:40.260 And the reason I didn't use him...

00:55:42.260 He's a very smart guy.

00:55:43.620 Very smart.

00:55:44.180 ...was because he...

00:55:47.200 I knew what he was going to say.

00:55:48.740 I knew it.

00:55:49.580 I mean, it was...

00:55:51.040 There was never a surprise, never a nuance.

00:55:54.440 He was...

00:55:54.640 Yeah, but he wasn't a...

00:55:55.720 He was not a guy who was parroting a lot of other people.

00:55:59.740 He was bringing a hard right view of foreign policy.

00:56:03.620 Correct.

00:56:04.280 All right?

00:56:04.740 And I didn't use any hard left people either.

00:56:08.860 I never did.

00:56:09.640 So, here's the dilemma for John Bolton.

00:56:15.200 Bolton, you can't assume that he has any regard for Donald Trump.

00:56:20.460 We can't assume that.

00:56:21.540 I mean, he doesn't like him because it didn't end well in the White House for him.

00:56:26.020 But if he goes in and crushes Trump, and he could.

00:56:30.120 He could.

00:56:30.760 He's dangerous.

00:56:32.440 In the sense that he knows a lot of things.

00:56:34.600 He will alienate himself from his entire ideological structure.

00:56:41.360 He will be a pariah in this country.

00:56:44.180 I think he's on that road already.

00:56:47.000 But he knows that.

00:56:48.640 There's not going to be anywhere for him to speak.

00:56:52.420 Speaking engagements.

00:56:54.360 No book audience for him.

00:56:56.720 No comeback on Fox News.

00:56:59.320 None of that.

00:57:00.720 So, he cuts himself off.

00:57:02.680 Now, the Trump administration has anticipated the worst.

00:57:07.440 They don't know.

00:57:08.520 Nobody knows what Bolton's going to say.

00:57:11.460 So, the counter to Bolton is Pompeo.

00:57:16.240 And you saw that this week as well.

00:57:19.040 Pompeo came out and said, look, I was on the call.

00:57:21.680 And we didn't deviate out from what our policy for the Trump administration is.

00:57:26.400 So, they'll put Pompeo up against Bolton.

00:57:29.780 And Pompeo's strong.

00:57:30.900 Remember, the ex-CIA chief.

00:57:33.220 All right?

00:57:33.920 He's strong.

00:57:35.440 But there's some danger there.

00:57:37.300 Does this boil down, Bill, really to an extreme disagreement in the policy of the State Department

00:57:47.680 and the State Department just saying, we don't work for Donald Trump, even though they do.

00:57:51.740 We don't work for Donald Trump.

00:57:52.920 And Donald Trump's not going to get involved.

00:57:55.080 And the State Department engaging in some really nasty stuff over in the Ukraine.

00:58:00.840 Well, the State Department now is very simpatico with President Trump.

00:58:08.140 I mean, because Pompeo's the Secretary of State.

00:58:10.320 They're buds.

00:58:11.160 Yeah, no.

00:58:12.020 Yeah, I mean those long-term players, for instance.

00:58:16.800 But they don't have any access other than leaking whatever.

00:58:21.140 There are two people that Donald Trump deals with every day, Vice President Pence and Pompeo.

00:58:29.420 Those are the only two.

00:58:31.320 And they're both very loyal to him.

00:58:33.520 And as long as they stay there, as long as he has them, he can use them to go out and negate a Bolton.

00:58:42.860 Now, as for your question about the State Department and the Justice Department and everybody else, they all hate Trump.

00:58:50.080 They've hated him from day one.

00:58:51.840 All right?

00:58:52.540 And that's why you saw the whistleblower.

00:58:54.460 Yes.

00:58:54.820 This guy was working to undermine Trump from the very beginning.

00:58:59.720 Oh, he's the guy who said that Putin and Trump – you know, Putin told Donald Trump to fire Comey.

00:59:06.960 He's the guy who started all of that.

00:59:08.720 This guy is an activist.

00:59:10.820 He's an activist.

00:59:11.780 Very bad.

00:59:12.420 Very bad.

00:59:12.780 But Schiff is in trouble because he went to Schiff because his two best friends work for Schiff.

00:59:19.060 I mean, it's really bad.

00:59:20.260 Okay.

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01:00:46.700 We break for 10 seconds.

01:00:47.940 Station ID.

01:00:57.700 It's the Glenn Beck Program with Pat Gray sitting in for Mr. Stubergeer, who is out in Disneyland.

01:01:04.320 I want to see Star Wars.

01:01:06.860 I want to see Star Wars.

01:01:08.560 So he's out.

01:01:10.260 Welcome, Bill.

01:01:11.060 How are you?

01:01:12.260 I'm the same, and I wish I were with Stu.

01:01:16.180 And Stu may never come back.

01:01:18.040 Yeah.

01:01:18.620 Hey, can I just quickly get your thoughts on Congress going up and finally making a statement about the Armenian genocide,

01:01:26.620 except for a couple of people, including Ilan Omar, who said,

01:01:30.880 I can't comment on this when we're dealing with what Americans did to Native Americans and the slave trade.

01:01:38.980 What are your thoughts on this?

01:01:41.100 Well, I have to confess, I don't know much about the Armenian slaughter,

01:01:44.840 so I can't really bring anything to the discussion,

01:01:50.480 but I can tell you that the radical left in America is the conservative movement's best friend 0.97

01:01:59.180 because these people are so loopy, so insane,

01:02:06.420 that even the people who don't subscribe to information, like they say,

01:02:14.340 I don't want any information.

01:02:16.200 I don't want to know anything.

01:02:17.780 I'll never watch or read any news. 1.00

01:02:20.660 Even they go, you know, these people are stupid. 1.00

01:02:23.740 Did you catch Barack Obama criticizing the woke movement? 1.00

01:02:28.200 Oh, I couldn't take it.

01:02:29.760 Did you catch that?

01:02:30.180 I couldn't take it.

01:02:31.760 You know, I'm telling you, you're too tough on Obama.

01:02:35.980 Obama, there's something about him, and I know him pretty well, 0.99

01:02:40.860 that can't stand this phony garbage. 0.98

01:02:44.460 And I'm glad he did what he did yesterday. 1.00

01:02:46.460 I am too, but he's the guy who started it.

01:02:50.000 Oh, I don't believe that for a second.

01:02:51.220 Oh, come on, man.

01:02:52.300 He wasn't involved with the cultural woke movement.

01:02:56.340 What?

01:02:57.120 He wasn't doing that.

01:02:58.840 He wasn't doing that.

01:03:00.140 His whole shtick, Beck.

01:03:02.120 His whole shtick was, you know, that's the way white people will do you. 1.00

01:03:08.280 His whole shtick was, well, the police act stupidly. 1.00

01:03:12.280 That's not what woke is. 1.00

01:03:13.900 Woke is that you're not allowed to say anything.

01:03:17.940 You're not allowed to offend anyone.

01:03:19.900 You've got to have 15 bathrooms for different ethnicities. 1.00

01:03:26.660 I mean, that's what woke is.

01:03:28.540 Obama is a, I think he's a socialist guy.

01:03:32.200 I think he is.

01:03:33.420 But if he isn't, he's very close.

01:03:35.540 That was his whole thing.

01:03:37.300 That was it.

01:03:38.420 Get money to the people who don't have any.

01:03:40.460 And that's why the economy tanked.

01:03:44.560 Man, I just don't understand.

01:03:46.140 No, I just, I'm just thinking.

01:03:47.360 I just.

01:03:48.320 He wasn't a cultural left wing.

01:03:51.640 That's all he was.

01:03:53.340 No.

01:03:54.240 No.

01:03:54.440 His wife on, his wife on the campaign.

01:03:58.900 That's not him.

01:04:00.100 Michelle.

01:04:00.820 All right.

01:04:01.480 I'll give you Michelle. 0.59

01:04:03.080 Everything's about race.

01:04:04.880 I got it.

01:04:06.220 But for him, it wasn't quite that way.

01:04:08.940 Do you have the Michelle Obama on the campaign trail?

01:04:11.940 Mm-hmm.

01:04:12.320 Because Barack knows.

01:04:14.900 Barack knows.

01:04:16.120 Listen, listen to this.

01:04:17.000 This is when she was taken off of the campaign trail. 0.99

01:04:19.700 Listen.

01:04:19.800 And Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices.

01:04:23.500 We are going to have to change our conversation.

01:04:26.200 We're going to have to change our traditions, our history.

01:04:29.260 We're going to have to move into a different place.

01:04:32.720 That's what wokeness is.

01:04:34.680 He's talking about race.

01:04:36.480 He's talking about our history and our traditions.

01:04:39.940 In the context of race.

01:04:42.000 Well, I'm trying to figure out what we're going through right now.

01:04:47.260 Because I know it wasn't happening that way a few years ago before he got in.

01:04:55.840 It wasn't this diametrically opposed on race and everything else and history.

01:05:02.920 Can you turn your computer off?

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01:06:51.460 Hillary, I have to ask you a question that has been plaguing me for a while.

01:06:57.440 How did you kill Jeffrey Epstein?

01:07:01.560 Because you're not in power, but you have all the power.

01:07:10.000 I really need to understand how you do what you do.

01:07:13.660 Because you seem to be behind everything nefarious, and yet you do not use it to become president.

01:07:21.940 What is the game plan?

01:07:24.380 Well, Trevor.

01:07:27.600 But honestly, what does it feel like being the boogeyman of the rights?

01:07:32.060 Well, it's a constant surprise to me, because the things they say, and now, of course, it's on steroids with being online, are so ridiculous beyond any imagination that I could have.

01:07:49.520 And yet they are so persistent in putting forth these crazy ideas and theories.

01:07:55.340 Honestly, I don't know what I ever did to get them so upset.

01:08:00.460 Oh, my gosh.

01:08:01.500 Stop.

01:08:02.100 We could clarify that for her if she wanted.

01:08:06.020 Bill, the likelihood that Hillary Clinton did off Jeffrey Epstein with her own hands.

01:08:13.020 The likelihood of that?

01:08:14.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:17.740 1%.

01:08:18.220 Okay, okay, I forgot we were on the air.

01:08:23.740 Okay.

01:08:25.620 So, wait a minute.

01:08:26.580 I do want to ask you a serious question on this.

01:08:29.140 Dr. Michael Baden said that it's more likely that he died of a homicide than a suicide.

01:08:38.900 He's not the first to say, but he's the one who examined now.

01:08:43.080 The New York chief medical examiner said it was definitely suicide.

01:08:47.020 But this guy says, and he's respected, no, there's three bones in there that are usually not broken by hanging yourself.

01:08:55.860 It's very common with homicide.

01:08:59.660 Look, I'm not a doctor.

01:09:02.140 I know this guy likes publicity.

01:09:03.920 I don't believe a word of it.

01:09:05.940 I know people in the Bureau of Prisons.

01:09:09.140 It's inconceivable that this would happen, but, you know, people like batting that stuff around.

01:09:14.920 You are no fun.

01:09:15.860 Yeah, I'm not a lot of fun.

01:09:17.720 I'll tell you that.

01:09:18.360 But here's an astute observation from me.

01:09:22.820 Who has more in common with Donald Trump than any other politician in the country?

01:09:30.780 Hillary Clinton.

01:09:33.020 Because they're both maligned to the point of caricature.

01:09:37.860 And Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

01:09:41.420 And remember, remember, I sat behind Hillary and Bill Clinton at Marla Maples, Donald Trump's wedding.

01:09:51.400 I sat behind them.

01:09:53.640 All right.

01:09:53.860 And they couldn't have been more buddy-buddy.

01:09:57.080 And this is in the United States of Trump, the book you so love.

01:10:00.820 All right.

01:10:01.540 It's in there.

01:10:02.160 And now, if there's one soulmate in the political arena for Donald Trump, it's her.

01:10:10.520 Isn't that ironic?

01:10:11.820 It is.

01:10:12.220 And it is a good part of the book.

01:10:14.640 You, me, the president, and a dog named Boo by Bill O'Reilly.

01:10:21.100 Bill, let me ask you this.

01:10:25.740 I saw a story.

01:10:27.000 I have never seen any religious person say anything like this before.

01:10:33.780 Pope Francis, quote, it's an honor to be attacked by American conservatives.

01:10:40.000 I didn't see that.

01:10:41.240 Can you give me the context of it?

01:10:43.260 He said on Wednesday, it was an honor to be attacked by the U.S. church conservatives and

01:10:49.820 their Catholic media allies who have criticized him on issues from theology to climate change

01:10:55.640 and even called for his resignation.

01:10:59.460 Yeah.

01:10:59.740 Well, there's a movie coming out about the two popes, I think the name of it is.

01:11:05.880 It'll be out before Christmas.

01:11:08.040 And Anthony Hopkins plays one of the popes, and somebody famous plays the other.

01:11:12.460 And it's about the handoff from Pope Benedict, a conservative German pope, to Pope Francis,

01:11:19.800 a liberal Argentinian.

01:11:22.320 I like Pope Francis.

01:11:24.140 I watched him up close, and he is a good man.

01:11:31.320 But he is a very liberal theologian, very liberal. 0.99

01:11:37.340 And that makes conservative Catholics crazy, crazy. 0.98

01:11:43.720 And so I understand the ire toward Pope Francis. 0.96

01:11:47.900 But as a Catholic, I think Pope Francis is a good man, even though I don't agree with his

01:11:55.720 liberal theology in the sense that we have to have borders.

01:12:00.540 We have to have...

01:12:01.300 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:12:03.080 But I think for the very first time I could ask the question, is the Pope Catholic?

01:12:08.080 And not everybody could answer that question.

01:12:10.280 Yeah, he's Catholic.

01:12:11.220 He said that Jesus, if you believe in the Trinity, he said Jesus wasn't God while he was here

01:12:21.140 on Earth for 33 years.

01:12:22.860 Now, if you believe in the Trinity, did we not have God for 33 years?

01:12:29.160 Where did God go?

01:12:31.920 Hiatus.

01:12:32.520 Okay, look, all of this is out of context.

01:12:40.500 It's like the New Testament.

01:12:42.440 Most of the New Testament is a parable.

01:12:45.480 He's not saying this.

01:12:50.120 And this is what Francis does.

01:12:52.660 So, look, I don't want to get into Catholic theology, but there's a difference between what

01:12:56.740 the Pope does and what the religion is.

01:12:59.340 All right, we have had popes throughout history that have been so corrupt. 0.75

01:13:04.140 They had 18 wives.

01:13:06.520 You know, I mean, just look at them.

01:13:09.520 Started wars, looted countries.

01:13:12.740 I mean, there's a theology.

01:13:14.860 And the theology, I believe, is very, very strong.

01:13:19.400 But then there's an institution, and the institution is not.

01:13:22.660 All right.

01:13:23.200 Let me, you and I, boy, we said, oof.

01:13:26.460 I mean, we're shaken apart here.

01:13:28.360 We're shaken apart.

01:13:29.620 Our friendship is shaken apart here.

01:13:31.360 No, Beck.

01:13:32.120 Oh, no.

01:13:32.960 No, it's...

01:13:33.560 As a Christian man, you have to forgive me.

01:13:37.460 Okay, so, Bill, last one.

01:13:40.300 Elizabeth Warren.

01:13:41.660 Oh, I love her.

01:13:42.700 Don't you?

01:13:43.240 Oh, she's great. 0.89

01:13:44.500 She's great.

01:13:45.140 You know what?

01:13:45.500 Yeah.

01:13:45.660 I think I've uncovered a videotape of Elizabeth Warren on American Bandstand.

01:13:52.000 It looks just like her.

01:13:54.780 Dick Clark is interviewing her about the Dog Named Boo song that you did.

01:13:59.700 Really?

01:14:00.460 Really?

01:14:00.760 Yeah.

01:14:01.300 So, she just came out and said, what is it, 56 or 54?

01:14:08.920 52.

01:14:09.980 53 million.

01:14:11.280 Trillion.

01:14:12.160 Yeah.

01:14:12.880 Trillion.

01:14:13.680 Trillion.

01:14:14.440 What difference does it make at that point?

01:14:15.760 Yeah.

01:14:16.780 It really doesn't matter.

01:14:18.440 So, but what people don't know is Bernie and Elizabeth, to pay for it, Medicare for all,

01:14:25.680 are willing to sell California to China.

01:14:29.780 And that's...

01:14:30.120 They are.

01:14:30.860 They get the money.

01:14:31.760 Too late.

01:14:34.940 That's already been done.

01:14:36.160 They sold the coastlines.

01:14:37.720 Too late.

01:14:38.260 But they're so simpatico now.

01:14:40.920 It's not even, you know...

01:14:42.500 You don't even notice.

01:14:43.520 They just come in, pay the 50 trillion for it, and everybody's happy.

01:14:47.700 Okay.

01:14:48.040 So, today, as they stand today, who's going to be the nominee?

01:14:53.100 Biden.

01:14:54.620 Still?

01:14:55.040 Really?

01:14:55.400 The nominee, as it stands today, if Biden...

01:14:58.400 Okay.

01:14:59.060 If they can wake him up, all right?

01:15:01.440 He sleeps late.

01:15:03.560 He'll get it.

01:15:04.540 Because they know the socialists are going to lose.

01:15:07.600 They being the power brokers within the Democratic Party.

01:15:11.700 So, I don't understand.

01:15:13.780 They know this.

01:15:15.460 They know it.

01:15:16.080 But yet, they're standing on it.

01:15:18.520 They're doing everything.

01:15:19.820 They're standing on it every day.

01:15:21.440 They don't reject it.

01:15:22.640 They embrace it until they have to actually get Americans to vote.

01:15:28.600 What is their strategy?

01:15:30.600 Here's the strategy.

01:15:32.120 They believe by pandering to these far, far left people, these socialist people, they're

01:15:39.560 getting younger people engaged than the Democratic Party.

01:15:42.740 That's number one.

01:15:43.860 All the younger people who want to be socialists, don't want to work, just want to get everything

01:15:48.060 handed to them.

01:15:49.080 They're going to be committed Democrats.

01:15:50.540 They also believe, and this is a mistake, that minorities like this.

01:15:55.020 They don't.

01:15:55.940 I don't believe that Hispanic Americans and African Americans are socialists.

01:16:01.220 Younger Americans, yes.

01:16:02.680 I do believe that.

01:16:03.780 Absolutely.

01:16:05.020 So, and also the media loves socialism.

01:16:09.000 They love it.

01:16:10.280 Until socialism comes to their door, then they don't like it so much.

01:16:14.180 And so the Democratic Party, they're playing this game.

01:16:16.640 They're going, OK, we can recruit using this stuff.

01:16:20.160 We can do this.

01:16:21.220 But then when it comes crunch time at the convention, they're going to wheel out Joe.

01:16:26.320 And I think literally wheel him out.

01:16:28.300 All right.

01:16:28.880 And he'll be waving one hand.

01:16:31.120 He can't do two at once.

01:16:32.960 And he'll be there with that big grin.

01:16:36.340 And Hunter will be Secretary of State.

01:16:39.200 It's going to work out.

01:16:40.320 It's going to be great.

01:16:41.480 It's going to work out.

01:16:42.220 All right, go ahead and plug the pamphlet or something.

01:16:45.440 United States of Trump, gangbusters.

01:16:47.540 I actually am running commercials where Glenn Beck says it's the greatest book that he's

01:16:52.200 ever read with the exception of the Bible.

01:16:54.000 Celebrity voice impersonated.

01:16:55.640 Yes.

01:16:56.500 And BillOReilly.com, we really were opening it up for everybody this weekend.

01:17:02.180 So you don't have to pay to see my impeachment coverage yesterday, which I think was one of

01:17:08.360 the best things I've ever done.

01:17:10.020 Wow.

01:17:10.140 So go to BillOReilly.com.

01:17:12.780 Go to the Blaze. 0.99

01:17:14.060 You know, don't waste your time this weekend on foolish football. 0.97

01:17:18.200 Get knowledge. 0.98

01:17:19.540 All right.

01:17:20.540 Go.

01:17:21.200 Bill O'Reilly.

01:17:21.820 Thank you so much.

01:17:22.520 Free weekend at BillOReilly.com.

01:17:23.740 Always fun, guys.

01:17:24.320 Good talking to you.

01:17:24.900 Have a good week.

01:17:26.020 Weekend.

01:17:27.220 All right.

01:17:27.780 Conventional wisdom says that you should either sell or buy a house in the spring or summer.

01:17:34.780 But that actually is not true anymore.

01:17:37.800 You know, it's great to take care of the outside stuff.

01:17:41.100 The kids are out of school, blah, blah, blah.

01:17:43.160 But there's a lot more that goes into buying and selling a home.

01:17:46.900 And the truth of the matter is, some of the best times to buy and sell in homes are not

01:17:51.540 when people traditionally think.

01:17:54.160 There is, we have changed as a nation.

01:17:57.800 Surprisingly, January is the best time to buy a home because the prices tend to be lower.

01:18:03.320 And November is the best time to sell a home because there are usually fewer homes on the

01:18:08.620 market, which, of course, means that someone is more apt to see your home.

01:18:12.560 And why is this?

01:18:14.960 Because the myth persists.

01:18:16.840 These are the kinds of things that you're going to learn when you go and use realestateagentsitrust.com.

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01:18:38.700 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:18:42.560 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:19:13.060 There's a couple of things I want to play some audio.

01:19:15.800 Here is Adam Schiff in audio.

01:19:21.400 How he feels about impeaching Donald Trump.

01:19:24.680 Just listen to this.

01:19:25.440 We take no joy in having to move down this road and proceed with the impeachment inquiry.

01:19:32.120 But neither do we shrink from it.

01:19:34.080 Yeah.

01:19:34.520 I don't think anybody believes that.

01:19:36.740 I don't think your wife, your mother, no one believes that one. 0.64

01:19:40.800 Here is a state lawmaker talking about miscarriage.

01:19:47.780 This is Representative Wendy Ullman of Pennsylvania.

01:19:52.440 Listen to this.

01:19:53.140 It refers specifically to the product of conception after fertilization, which covers an awful lot

01:20:00.900 of territory.

01:20:02.420 I think we all understand the concept of the loss of a fetus, but we're also talking about

01:20:08.460 a woman who comes into a facility and is having cramps.

01:20:15.080 An early miscarriage is just some mess on a napkin.

01:20:29.680 And I'm not sure people would agree that this is something that we want to take to the point

01:20:35.480 of ritual, either cremation or internment.

01:20:40.340 Oh, man.

01:20:42.180 Wow.

01:20:42.760 Is that despicable?

01:20:43.920 Evil.

01:20:45.280 Miscarriage is just a mess on a napkin.

01:20:50.280 Listen, I cannot believe that a woman said that. 0.99

01:20:54.940 I know.

01:20:55.420 That is.

01:20:55.980 Yeah.

01:20:56.320 That's a woman who obviously doesn't know any other women that have had miscarriages. 0.94

01:21:02.780 Right.

01:21:03.700 I mean.

01:21:04.320 Sounds like a woman who's never been pregnant. 1.00

01:21:06.260 Oh, my gosh.

01:21:07.360 To say that.

01:21:08.000 Yeah.

01:21:08.520 You lost a fetus.

01:21:09.820 No, no.

01:21:10.640 I didn't lose a fetus.

01:21:12.160 Lost a baby that was growing in the womb.

01:21:16.180 Wow.

01:21:16.760 That's pretty despicable.

01:21:18.920 But that's how far they've come.

01:21:20.540 I know.

01:21:21.220 And I was just going to say, I can't imagine.

01:21:23.360 I can't imagine that woman being reelected. 1.00

01:21:26.860 But then again, today?

01:21:28.460 Maybe.

01:21:29.020 Maybe.

01:21:29.800 Probably, in fact.

01:21:30.960 Yeah.

01:21:31.260 Maybe people don't feel this way anymore.

01:21:33.760 I don't have any idea.

01:21:35.660 One last.

01:21:36.320 Do we have a minute 30 here that we could play the judicial pick of Lawrence Van Dyke in

01:21:44.220 the Senate hearing when one of the senators is questioning him about his political letter

01:21:51.000 from the American Bar Association that accuses him of ineptitude and also discrimination against

01:21:58.540 LGBT.

01:21:59.740 Listen.

01:22:00.140 Did you say that you wouldn't be fair to members of the LGBT community?

01:22:03.180 Senator, I, that was, um, that was the part of the letter.

01:22:22.400 I did not say that.

01:22:23.780 Look at what, look at what people are doing to people.

01:22:35.080 Mm-hmm.

01:22:37.760 I apologize.

01:22:39.740 It's all right.

01:22:46.420 I'm sorry.

01:22:47.620 No, I did not say that.

01:22:49.560 I do not believe that.

01:22:50.820 It is a fundamental belief of mine that all people are created in the image of God.

01:22:59.320 They should all be treated with dignity and respect.

01:23:04.300 Senator.

01:23:05.640 Can you commit today to this committee that you will treat, if confirmed, that you would

01:23:11.800 treat every litigant who came before you with respect and with dignity? 0.97

01:23:16.400 Absolutely, Senator.

01:23:18.420 I would not have allowed myself to be nominated for this position if I did not think I could

01:23:21.980 do that.

01:23:22.720 Including members of the LGBT community and any other community that has been historically

01:23:27.720 disadvantaged in this country?

01:23:29.400 Absolutely, Senator.

01:23:31.400 Wow.

01:23:32.220 What an insulting question.

01:23:35.240 Mm-hmm.

01:23:35.960 And this is just coming because of politics.

01:23:39.200 Look at what we are doing to people.

01:23:43.820 How are you ever going to get anyone decent to go through this process to be able to lead

01:23:52.420 us?

01:23:52.980 How are you ever going to do it?

01:23:54.760 It's got to stop.

01:23:57.100 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

01:24:17.100 Thank you so much, Hillary.

01:24:19.040 I want to talk to you about real estate agents.

01:24:20.980 That you trust or .com?

01:24:24.000 Yes, realestateagentsitrust.com.

01:24:25.940 All right, because if it's the ones you don't trust, I can't recommend them.

01:24:32.440 Really?

01:24:32.820 Yeah, can't recommend them.

01:24:34.140 I don't know about you.

01:24:34.940 Well, I've been thinking about, you know, they've been asking me, this group of real estate

01:24:38.900 agents, hey, Glenn, we know you got the ones that you trust.

01:24:41.760 How about real estate agents you don't trust?

01:24:43.980 And I said, what will you do for people?

01:24:45.560 And they say, we'll screw up your paperwork.

01:24:47.460 We won't sell your house.

01:24:49.000 Right.

01:24:49.260 We'll just have open houses.

01:24:51.360 Every weekend.

01:24:52.320 So you can keep your house immaculate.

01:24:53.960 And then we'll call when there's somebody that wants a showing.

01:24:57.460 We'll call like 20 minutes before.

01:24:59.800 Perfect.

01:25:00.020 But it'll be on like a Saturday night.

01:25:02.500 Yeah.

01:25:02.780 And then we won't call you and tell you what the people said.

01:25:05.460 We'll just string you along.

01:25:07.320 That's realestateagentsidontrust.com.

01:25:10.720 But the realestateagentsidotrust.com do the opposite of that.

01:25:15.780 Oh, wow.

01:25:16.140 And that's why I trust them.

01:25:17.480 And you can, too.

01:25:18.760 Just let us know if you're trying to buy or sell a house.

01:25:21.440 We'll find the right real estate agent in your area.

01:25:23.520 It's realestateagentsidontrust.com.

01:25:26.480 Thank you for that, Pat.

01:25:27.760 Yeah, I'm happy to help.

01:25:28.680 No, no, no.

01:25:29.320 I just wanted to clarify.

01:25:31.000 You are a helper.

01:25:32.040 You are a helper.

01:25:32.960 By the way, daylight savings time this weekend.

01:25:36.640 Fall back.

01:25:37.660 This time, 25 hours.

01:25:40.020 You fall back.

01:25:40.560 25 hours.

01:25:41.460 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:25:57.220 I was just telling Pat, and he said a lot of people don't know that, that daylight savings time is happening this year, this weekend.

01:26:05.100 Uh-huh.

01:26:05.620 Usually, you just fall back an hour.

01:26:07.600 Right.

01:26:08.320 This time, 25 hours.

01:26:10.640 You fall a day and an hour back.

01:26:13.380 Wow.

01:26:13.840 Yeah.

01:26:13.960 So you get a whole day and one more hour.

01:26:16.120 And one more hour.

01:26:17.240 Wow.

01:26:17.600 Yeah, so.

01:26:18.660 It's a special year.

01:26:19.720 Set your calendar back.

01:26:21.840 It's a daylight savings time weekend.

01:26:24.020 All right.

01:26:24.620 I want to talk to you about what we're doing as a society.

01:26:28.340 Because it ain't working.

01:26:30.760 Nobody's convincing anything to anybody.

01:26:34.220 Nobody is changing the hearts and minds of anybody.

01:26:38.520 Maybe we should change tactics.

01:26:42.820 There's somebody who really, truly understands this and lived it.

01:26:48.760 Got kind of in reverse.

01:26:50.480 Was taught.

01:26:51.920 It was probably, you know, probably one of the bigger problems in our country at one point.

01:26:58.080 And had a change of heart.

01:26:59.520 Saw the light.

01:27:00.400 How do we change tactics and actually move forward?

01:27:04.740 That in one minute.

01:27:06.360 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:27:11.220 Oh, Pat.

01:27:12.460 Remember the days when you had a car that had a whole bunch of miles on it and then didn't have any warranty?

01:27:20.500 Good times.

01:27:21.260 Oh.

01:27:21.920 And when that light would go off, you'd be like, oh, yay.

01:27:24.640 Look at that.

01:27:25.600 Yes.

01:27:26.060 I wonder what's wrong.

01:27:27.000 I can't wait to find out.

01:27:28.040 Yeah.

01:27:28.860 That light works.

01:27:30.420 I was wondering if that light worked.

01:27:32.520 And we find out now it does work.

01:27:34.320 The little one that says check engine.

01:27:36.380 Oh, that's super special.

01:27:37.820 Now I get to go and find out how much it's going to cost.

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01:28:19.140 All right.

01:28:33.680 When you say at least 15 years ago, hey, can you name a really horrible, divisive group?

01:28:43.020 You could probably say, yeah, Westboro Baptist Church.

01:28:47.660 Oh, yeah.

01:28:47.940 But now we are all kind of, we're kind of turning into that.

01:28:51.660 We see that everywhere now.

01:28:53.200 We see people screaming these things at each other.

01:28:57.400 America has become an online version in many cases of the Westboro Baptist Church.

01:29:03.040 Not necessarily screaming the same things, but being just as vile and mean and awful.

01:29:10.620 Well, Megan Phelps, she's a writer and an activist and a former member of the Phelps family, member of the Westboro Baptist Church.

01:29:23.760 And she joins us now.

01:29:24.920 She has a new book called Unfollow.

01:29:27.580 Welcome, Megan.

01:29:29.220 How are you?

01:29:30.400 I am wonderful.

01:29:31.360 What about you?

01:29:32.080 I'm good.

01:29:33.060 Good to have you on the program again.

01:29:34.840 First of all, can I ask you, you kept the name Phelps.

01:29:41.120 You're Megan Phelps Roper.

01:29:43.820 And Phelps is one of those words, you know, like we say, your name is Mud around here. 1.00

01:29:49.840 That's because the guy who was helping John Wilkes Booth, his name was Mud. 0.57

01:29:54.440 The doctor was Mud. 0.96

01:29:56.940 Phelps is kind of one of those names.

01:29:58.580 Why'd you keep it?

01:29:59.300 I kept it because I wanted to reform it. 0.99

01:30:03.220 You know, my name, Megan Phelps Roper, for a very long time, it meant, as my family would say, God hates fags. 1.00

01:30:10.400 And I didn't want it to mean that anymore. 0.98

01:30:12.300 I wanted to.

01:30:13.120 I wanted to change.

01:30:14.200 I wanted to take it back.

01:30:15.080 And, you know, my husband recently, we've been talking about, you know, we want to start a nonprofit at some point.

01:30:21.440 And he had the idea of calling it the Westboro Foundation.

01:30:24.260 Because I want people, when they hear Westboro, to not think of people who celebrate tragedies and deaths, but people who are there when tragedies happen to help people who are suffering.

01:30:35.540 I mean, in some ways, it's what Chip and Joanna did for Waco, Texas.

01:30:39.660 But it was, I mean, that wasn't, that wasn't personally them.

01:30:44.700 Right.

01:30:45.240 And you have a, I mean, you were there on the front lines.

01:30:50.160 Tell me, tell the audience, I know who you were, but tell the audience who you were.

01:30:54.640 And how you changed.

01:30:56.980 So Westboro Baptist Church was started by my grandfather.

01:30:59.940 And it's almost entirely my extended family.

01:31:02.580 So my mother was the de facto spokesperson for a very long time.

01:31:06.840 And I was right there.

01:31:08.900 I grew up right at her elbow.

01:31:10.500 I'm her, you know, I'm the third of 11 children.

01:31:12.860 I'm her oldest daughter.

01:31:13.900 So, you know, she called me her right hand.

01:31:16.200 And I was right there in the middle of it.

01:31:17.960 I was a hardcore believer, a zealous believer in everything that Westboro taught.

01:31:24.260 And I defended them in the media.

01:31:26.720 I was the one who took our message to social media initially.

01:31:31.120 And, you know, helped with all of the logistical work, you know, orchestrating the protest.

01:31:35.880 So I was not, I was not, you know, as I put it, I said I was all in.

01:31:40.180 That's how I felt.

01:31:41.000 And then before you, before you change, before you talk about how you changed, was there ever any discussion like, hey, guys, I don't think this is working.

01:31:53.300 This approach is not working.

01:31:55.080 Was there ever any discussion like that?

01:31:56.980 No, because for Westboro, you know, they do not use conversion numbers as a metric of their success.

01:32:04.320 They don't believe that, you know, changing hearts and minds is in their power because they believe in predestination.

01:32:09.520 So only God can change someone's heart.

01:32:11.320 And so we basically saw our, you know, we measured our success as the amount of publicity that we were getting because all we were trying to do was publish this message that we thought was the word of God.

01:32:24.040 So from that perspective, we were very successful.

01:32:27.400 We were all, I mean, you know, pop culture phenomenons, you know, True Blood, that, you know, really popular series on HBO. 0.92

01:32:33.260 The opening credits included, you know, God hates fangs, you know, which is part of our, you know, just a play on our God hates gays message. 0.89

01:32:43.260 But so it's, you know, for them, they just, that's, they weren't trying to change people's minds. 0.74

01:32:48.600 And that's why they, to change, the idea of changing tactics didn't even occur to them.

01:32:54.940 And when people would insist that they should, that it was biblical for them to change tactics, for us to change tactics,

01:33:00.040 we basically just dismiss them out of hand.

01:33:03.880 So, Megan, when, when you are away from this now and your eyes have been opened and you, you know what you were part of and your family is part of,

01:33:19.060 and you know, you know, what's, what's true and what's not.

01:33:24.040 How difficult is it for you to look at our society today and to see what people are doing online, on air, everything, 0.98

01:33:36.420 and, and not just cry out, you fools, what are you doing? 0.99

01:33:41.920 Well, I can't say you fools because I, I was exactly where so many people are now. 0.99

01:33:47.740 I know, I know how seductive that, that way of seeing things is, you know, the, the appeal of absolute certainty. 0.63

01:33:56.380 You know, the, it, my grandfather used to say that it was, there's something wonderfully liberating in the idea that,

01:34:02.820 in the notion, the knowledge that you are 100% right.

01:34:06.280 And he believed that.

01:34:07.320 He believed that we were 100% right with no possibility of error because we, again, we had the word of God.

01:34:13.940 And, and so when I see this, you know, this, this spirit, kind of the same spirit taking over, you know,

01:34:20.600 the Westboroization of, of politics and American culture generally, I know, I know why people are drawn to it.

01:34:28.440 And I understand the group dynamics that lead people to it.

01:34:31.960 But I also know, you know, how incredibly destructive it is to see the world that way

01:34:36.660 and how, how ineffective it is to try to, to change hearts and minds to, to, to come to, you know,

01:34:44.860 collective, to compromise how difficult that is to do when you have completely demonized anyone who doesn't agree with you on everything.

01:34:51.900 Anyone who steps outside of the party line on any, on any notion.

01:34:56.500 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's not good.

01:34:59.140 It's, it's interesting.

01:35:00.880 So I, I wrote in one of my books, I think it was my last one,

01:35:03.780 where I said, the only thing I am now certain of is that I'm not certain of anything.

01:35:08.040 Um, it is our certainty that is, is dividing us.

01:35:12.240 Um, and it, it's, it feels,

01:35:16.460 it feels different than what you went through because

01:35:21.500 you see and you claim what's happening over here is evil.

01:35:28.340 And, uh, and I know the difference between good and evil.

01:35:32.760 And this is just, this movement is evil, but that's what you guys thought.

01:35:39.200 Yeah.

01:35:39.840 And that's the thing.

01:35:40.800 It's, if you are only looking at things from your perspective, you know, you're, you're, you are looking at,

01:35:45.980 at, at current events in light of your, your own experiences.

01:35:50.800 And if you cut yourself off from trying to understand why other people have come to different conclusions,

01:35:56.580 if you just attribute it to, you know, this person is evil, they are ill-intentioned,

01:36:01.800 you, you are immediately cutting yourself off from really understanding that person and what has led them to those conclusions.

01:36:07.420 Right. And it doesn't, it doesn't mean that you, um, are going to change your point of view or, uh, or, uh, that you're not necessarily on the right track,

01:36:19.960 but you don't understand that you are limiting, um, yourself by not listening to how other people got there or viewed it because they are going to teach you something.

01:36:33.100 Uh, and if you close yourself off to that, you end up alone, right?

01:36:38.620 Yeah, absolutely. And there, you know, there is this instinct that I think is very human.

01:36:43.020 You know, when, when we encounter people that we believe are doing and believing destructive things,

01:36:47.800 the instinct that we have is to isolate ourselves from them. You know, we don't want to endorse them.

01:36:52.700 We don't want to have any part with what they're involved in. And again, I think that's very, a very human response.

01:36:58.380 Um, you know, you're trying to shame them into changing. The problem is that when the divide is

01:37:03.760 as great as it is now in, in so many different spheres, you know, I was talking to an anthropologist

01:37:08.960 last year, uh, and she, she explained the feeling of shame as, you know, the feeling that we get when

01:37:14.960 we know that we have violated the norms of our community. And so, you know, for me, Westboro was

01:37:20.800 my community and I didn't have any community outside of that. I felt completely alienated from the rest of

01:37:25.740 the world. It was this very us them mentality. And so when other people, outsiders attempted to shame

01:37:31.460 me, I, I felt pride. I was, I was happy that they, that they thought I was wrong because I thought they

01:37:37.320 were evil. So clearly it just reinforces your sense of righteousness. What's the difference between this

01:37:42.980 and moral relativity? Uh, I think you're, I don't believe that you have to like have no opinions about

01:37:52.120 things. Like, I don't think that you have to say, well, I can't, when you said, um, certainty is the

01:37:58.120 root of this for me, I totally agree. This toxic sense of certainty in your own righteousness. It's

01:38:04.260 not, it's not that you don't have opinions or that you don't have strong values and strong beliefs.

01:38:08.660 It's that you hold them a bit more loosely because you understand that there is information and

01:38:14.320 experiences outside of your own, which are necessarily limited, uh, that can and should change the

01:38:21.360 way you see things. We have to be willing to listen because not because we are, are trying to, you know,

01:38:27.340 say that, okay, white supremacy is okay, or, or whatever the, whatever the specific issue is. Um, it's

01:38:33.000 that, what is that, what, what, what is in this that I can learn from and how can we build a bridge from

01:38:39.520 where they are to where, where I am?

01:38:41.620 So show us how, uh, we need to change our behavior. You know, your book is called, uh, unfollow,

01:38:49.200 uh, and you're not necessarily saying disengage from social media. Um, you, because at least I don't

01:38:58.240 think, uh, because that's, that's what, that's what changed you was somebody using social media in

01:39:04.720 the right way. So what's the right way to approach this or another way?

01:39:10.800 Yeah. So I, I, on, I gave a Ted doc a couple of years ago about this. This was, I think the last

01:39:15.700 time I was on, um, that it was basically detailing these strategies that, um, that people used with

01:39:21.700 me. So the first was to don't assume bad intent, because again, you need to understand what is

01:39:27.420 actually motivating this person. And I think very few people are actually deliberately trying to do

01:39:32.440 things that they know are evil or wrong. They have somehow become convinced that this is the

01:39:37.900 right way. And so you need to understand where they're coming from. If you're going to actually

01:39:41.660 reach them. Um, the second is to ask questions, partly again, to help you understand where that,

01:39:47.500 where they are, where they're coming from, but also partly as a signal to them that they're being

01:39:52.260 heard. And so, and you know, there's, there's this reciprocal thing that happens where, you know,

01:39:57.660 somebody, you ask them questions and they, they go through their whole position. They explain it all to

01:40:01.680 you. And then they get to the end and there's this natural, you know, sense of reciprocation often

01:40:05.920 where they want to know what you think, where are you coming from and how it's not asking questions.

01:40:11.240 It's asking honest questions. It's asking questions of, I want to know, not questions that will get

01:40:17.140 them to change their mind. Cause I'm going to have a, I know the answer to this one. Right. Yes.

01:40:22.400 Okay. Uh, and then the third is to stay calm, which is, you know, as you see in conversations on

01:40:27.580 social media, on television, all over the place, it's really difficult, right? It seems like right

01:40:32.640 now to be able to stay calm in these discussions because we, these are conversations about deeply

01:40:38.700 held values and disagreements that we, we cannot fathom how somebody has come to a different place.

01:40:44.620 And so if we can be very intentional and deliberate about keeping, you know, keeping the,

01:40:50.740 the hostility level as low as possible, trying to acknowledge, you know, that the other person is,

01:40:55.580 is coming from a place of genuine disagreement and to be, be able to tolerate that. Like this is,

01:41:00.940 you know, embodying the value of tolerance. Um, I think it's really important. So that's the third

01:41:05.180 step. And then the fourth is to make your argument. Um, you know, and again, this is one of those

01:41:10.220 things that sounds very obvious, but when we have these deeply held values, there is this, you know,

01:41:15.900 this sense that anybody that is a decent person would have already come to the same conclusions that I

01:41:22.340 have. And so we, we end up not actually articulating the defenses and the argument

01:41:27.700 for our position. So we actually need to do that. Um, and then, you know, I think I mentioned this

01:41:32.660 last time too, the fifth point that I would, that I would say, um, that was not in my Ted talk because

01:41:37.300 I ran out of time, but it would be to, to be patient because people don't change these kinds of

01:41:43.500 deeply held values overnight, like in a moment, even, even though I can look back in my own experience

01:41:49.220 to how my mind changed over time, I can point to several moments where I absolutely became aware

01:41:55.140 that there was a contradiction in what I believed. And what it caused me to do was kind of to shut

01:42:00.460 down momentarily. Right. And that's what happens to human beings as we, you know, this cognitive

01:42:06.540 dissonance, like to finally come to the place where we understand, wow, maybe there is something

01:42:11.380 wrong with my position. Maybe I need to reconsider this. And if you push that, you know, if you try to

01:42:17.100 use that as a gotcha moment, that's people react very negatively to that. Exactly. It pushes you

01:42:24.600 deeper into your position. So Megan, I think you're a remarkable, remarkable woman. Uh, and your message

01:42:32.220 is so powerful and, and right on the money and right for this time. Uh, I urge everybody in the audience

01:42:40.040 to read this and share this with people. What she lays out is look, what we're doing isn't working

01:42:47.080 we have to change tactics. And I think she has a remarkable message. The name of the book is

01:42:53.920 unfollow Megan Phelps Roper unfollow. It's available wherever you buy books, uh, currently. Thank you

01:43:01.600 so much, Megan. God bless. Thank you. Thank you. You bet.

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01:44:28.940 All right. Welcome. Welcome to the program. David Millor is a guy who you've never really

01:44:38.040 heard of, most likely, but you know his work. And I have a podcast with him this weekend that I

01:44:48.140 so strongly urge you to look into. We'll talk about it here in just a second. So, Pat, looking at the

01:44:56.300 list of the things that she just put down, let's just look at this with impeachment. Why are people 0.99

01:45:05.420 going after, why is the DNC, besides politics, why is the DNC pushing this and why is this working

01:45:13.160 with, you know, Democrats? I think it's hatred. I think they just absolutely hate Donald Trump.

01:45:22.280 I think if you phrase it the way she just did, they assume bad intent. You just assume bad intent.

01:45:31.120 And haven't they done that from the start with Trump?

01:45:34.400 From the very start. From the very start. They're not listening to, well, what are the questions? Wait,

01:45:42.860 what are we really talking about here? Let's listen and ask him questions on what are you doing? Or you

01:45:51.580 can't really ask him, but see, like, for instance, the chalkboard and open your eyes to a different

01:45:58.120 perspective. Stay calm. And yet make your stand and make your argument. We're violating all of these

01:46:10.240 as a society every single day. And when is it that the group of us are all going to wake up

01:46:15.820 and go, hmm, maybe we should try something different? You notice that, and I meant to

01:46:21.860 ask her before she left, if her family is still doing this, because you'd never hear about them

01:46:25.340 anymore. The Westboro Baptist Church, because everybody's like the Westboro Baptist Church now.

01:46:31.640 Right. Every time you see a protest, it's like those people. And so it's not even uncommon.

01:46:38.300 They're not even, I don't think they even raise any interest in the media anymore, because

01:46:43.260 we see that every weekend, every, everywhere. It's amazing. Especially, you're right. I wish

01:46:49.540 I would have asked that question of her, because especially if they are still active. Yeah.

01:46:53.660 You don't ever hear about them. Never. Not for years now. And I think you're right. It is,

01:46:59.520 we've all become. It's too common. Yeah. We're all that, in one way or another, we're all calling

01:47:05.820 each other horrible names, especially in the virtual world. All right, back in a minute.

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01:48:55.260 I just saw the story about the, uh, the mother, nearly 300 pound mother achieves her life-changing

01:49:09.880 weight loss after her son fat shames her. Uh, she was, um, uh, she, her, her son was three

01:49:19.600 at the time said, mom, you're fat. And he just, she decided I've got to stop. I've got to stop.

01:49:26.960 And so she started working out and now she's thin and beautiful and, and, uh, hopefully the 1.00

01:49:33.880 authorities in jail. I was going to say, hopefully the authorities have put that kid away for fat

01:49:40.540 shaming. If he ever fat shames again, uh, it's you can't have that. Yeah. Uh, fireside chat on live

01:49:47.560 television. Trump says he wants to read the Ukraine called transcript to the American people.

01:49:53.020 Now it's interesting. Cause this is what I said after we did the, uh, after we did the chalkboard

01:49:57.340 about a month ago, I said, president should do a fireside chat. He should. Now I also added,

01:50:04.780 he needs to really be prepared for that. And he needs to just take people through it. And I think I

01:50:14.540 also then said, he's probably not the guy to do it. Cause I don't know if he's that disciplined,

01:50:19.440 but we'll, we'll see. Is there a, uh, was there a date attached to that? He hasn't. He just said he

01:50:26.320 wants to do it, uh, sometime soon. Uh, at some point I'm going to sit down perhaps as a fireside

01:50:32.500 chat on live television and I'll read the transcript of the call because people have to hear it. When you

01:50:38.820 read it, it's a straight call. It's a perfect call. I love the perfect call thing. All right. Um,

01:50:46.740 a Brooklyn pimp named sugar bear on. Wow. Uh, is that the sugar bear that saved my life tonight

01:50:56.220 with Elton John? No, this is a different, different sugar bear. This sugar bear is a Brooklyn 0.54

01:51:02.200 pimp that's on trial for killing his prostitute girlfriend. Uh, but he said, I didn't kill her. 0.99

01:51:10.060 I just chopped her up and put her head in my freezer. For what reason? He didn't want to be 0.91

01:51:17.280 blamed. Oh, well that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, this is another sugar bear. This is one

01:51:23.240 that didn't save her life, but didn't kill her either. No, he didn't kill her. He just chopped her up.

01:51:28.120 Chopped up my life tonight. Well, okay. So if somebody finds your girlfriend's head in your

01:51:37.480 freezer, they're certainly not going to suspect that you killed her, right? No, no. Well, why did

01:51:43.740 you, but you chopped her up. You just wanted to stash her there. I wanted to keep her close. I wanted 1.00

01:51:50.200 to keep her close. And, uh, you know, uh, I'm in the freezer for ice cream a lot. Makes sense. Yeah.

01:51:59.260 It really makes sense. Um, so, uh, uh, Julie Clark told the Brooklyn jury, uh, he didn't want to go

01:52:06.780 to jail. He didn't want to be blamed. He had no motive to kill his main money maker, but he did cut

01:52:13.460 her body up. She then conceded, this is the attorney. She then conceded, look, he's not a

01:52:19.500 nice man. He's not someone you want with your daughter. Um, but you don't have to like his

01:52:25.720 lifestyle. That's very true is I don't want him dating my daughters. Uh, that's very, very true.

01:52:31.720 Yeah. Police closed in on Moses after finding the body parts at a, uh, Bronx waste transfer

01:52:38.700 station, tracing them to his apartment where they alleged were found blood splatters, uh, uh, and,

01:52:46.380 uh, and frozen appendages. They were found under a pile of frozen foods and meats in his, uh,

01:52:56.060 in his, uh, in his freezer. He was charged with concealing the body parts for 10 days

01:53:02.940 after the slaying. But again, he said, Hey, I, I only chopped her up. I didn't kill her.

01:53:12.580 Does he have any ideas on who did kill her? Uh, OJ Simpson. Okay. Uh, OJ Simpson, uh, but OJ

01:53:19.460 swears he was on the golf course, uh, this weekend, uh, something that the farmers always get blamed

01:53:26.660 for. Not true. Uh, it was actually, uh, to be more environmentally friendly and, uh, not burn as

01:53:34.360 much coal. Uh, it's daylight savings time this weekend. Finally, they pushed that back. Has

01:53:40.940 it been what a month or six weeks? Um, I think it's, I think it's a month on both ends, right?

01:53:47.000 Isn't that what they did? I don't, I'm not, I haven't, I'm not following the, you're not

01:53:52.600 following the saga of the daylight savings time. And it's actually, we're both saying

01:53:57.900 it wrong. It's daylight saving time. It's not, there's no S in savings. Right. Right. Leave

01:54:02.900 the S off for savings. Saving. Saving. Saving. I hate daylight saving time. I want it to go

01:54:12.640 away completely. I just want to be on standard time the whole year. I think it's time. Okay.

01:54:17.680 No, I, I, no, I disagree with you. I like it this one weekend. I hate it in the spring.

01:54:24.600 Very much so. But I don't know why we don't just fall back in the spring and the summer.

01:54:30.660 Just keep falling back. An hour both times. Yeah. An hour both times. Just fall back an

01:54:37.920 hour. Or if you, you know, you're like, well, then the days would be screwed up. Okay.

01:54:42.340 Then fall back a few fallback 24 hours or 23 hours in the spring. Then we all win. We're

01:54:53.660 always getting extra time that way. I'm not sure it works like that. Well, I don't know

01:55:00.200 why it doesn't. We can make it. We can make it. So if, if, if we can have health care for

01:55:06.720 all, we can certainly fall back 23 hours. Oh yeah, absolutely. Let me, uh, let me take

01:55:14.300 you here tomorrow. Uh, I have a podcast that comes out every Saturday. We have a really

01:55:22.540 fascinating podcast. This is one of my favorite stories. This is the story, um, about a man

01:55:31.380 who has had an incredible life. He grew up wanting to be a pitcher for the Boston Red

01:55:40.560 Sox. And that's all he wanted to do. And he works so hard his whole life. And he's, he

01:55:47.220 got a scholarship to go to college. He just graduates from high school and he has a scholarship

01:55:52.420 to go for, uh, to go to school. And he's going to be on the baseball team and he's a pitcher

01:55:58.640 and he's a good one. And he's walking in a parking lot one night and he realizes I've

01:56:06.480 left my wallet in the car and they were headed towards McDonald's. I've got to go back out

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01:56:23.880 been a pitcher, but, uh, for the Red Sox, but you were on your way to some sort of career

01:56:29.180 in baseball, you thought. Yes, sir. You're 18. Yes, sir. What happens? Well, a month after

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01:56:41.340 you signed a scholarship and why don't you wait till we go to the state tournament? And

01:56:47.100 if you do well, you're going to get more offers. I said, that sounds great. And so about

01:56:52.000 10 days before that tournament, I had gone to see a movie with one of my buddies and we

01:56:57.340 got out of the movie and, uh, it was beautiful sunset and there's a saying, red sky at night,

01:57:02.900 sailor's delight. Really superstitious. And so I thought that's a great sign of things 1.00

01:57:08.520 to come. And so we're driving. He says, how about if we stop and get a bite to eat? And

01:57:13.840 so we saw a McDonald's. And so we pulled into the parking lot and parked on the side of

01:57:18.180 the right side of the entrance across from the door. And we got out and started walking

01:57:23.360 across the parking lot. And I realized I forgot my wallet. And so he says, Hey, I'm going to

01:57:28.760 go ahead and go in. And I went back to the car to get my wallet and picked my wallet up

01:57:33.940 and closed the door and started taking a few steps toward the door. And I heard a car come

01:57:39.260 off the street quickly and stopped suddenly. I looked up and the two people in the car,

01:57:46.300 the driver and the passenger had opened their doors and were changing positions, uh, to the

01:57:53.100 other person was going to drive. So I stopped and waited for them to get in. And when they

01:57:58.480 got in and shut the doors, I motioned for them to go ahead and drive, drive through to get

01:58:03.980 to the drive through. And they motioned for me to start walking and go ahead and go. And

01:58:09.160 so I started walking and I heard them rev their engine and squeal their tires. And I had enough

01:58:16.120 time to turn. And I lifted my left leg and put both my hands up and the car was speeding

01:58:24.320 right at me. And I didn't have time to move anywhere else. And the car hit me, threw me 20 feet

01:58:32.000 in the air. And I slammed into the door, the brick wall, right where the corner of the door

01:58:38.480 jutted out. And luckily I landed right in the corner. I slammed into the brick wall, landed

01:58:44.700 in a pile at the base of the corner of the wall. And when I looked up, the car was coming

01:58:50.920 at a higher rate of speed. And the car hit the metal handrail, sparks flew, and the car's

01:58:58.200 metal bumper pinned the handrail in the car's bumper against my knee against the wall. And

01:59:05.580 I, you know, the engine is revving and the car exhaust is, you know, I'm having a hard

01:59:13.020 time breathing. And I can see the lady just staring at me over the steering wheel. And 0.88

01:59:19.580 I'm screaming at her to please stop. Please stop. He goes on. He has multiple surgeries.

01:59:28.260 He has nightmares. Uh, he has PTSD, but this is before anybody was diagnosing PTSD. Um, and

01:59:37.340 he gets married. He has all kinds of problems cause he cannot sleep at night. Do we know why

01:59:42.920 this happened to him? This was a woman who just freaked out and stepped on the gas instead

01:59:49.460 of the brake all of a sudden and just was freaking out. Yeah, I know. Then years go by. He, he

01:59:57.400 learns to walk again. Okay. He, he can't even walk. Wow. He goes through therapy. He has a doctor

02:00:04.780 that screws it up and his leg just snaps after surgery. So he's got all these problems. He finally

02:00:12.660 gets a job as a groundskeeper because he wants to, you know, he wants to play baseball, but

02:00:18.200 he can't. So maybe I can just be a groundskeeper. So he goes up and he's working for the, uh,

02:00:23.500 Milwaukee brewers and they're doing a whole, the whole new field for them. And, uh, so they

02:00:31.680 have everybody off and the doors, the gates to the field are open one Saturday as a redoing

02:00:40.160 this field. And this woman, another woman in a car, a different, a different woman in 0.95

02:00:47.040 a different city years later, guns, it comes through the gate and starts doing, uh, you

02:00:56.820 know, wheelies around the, uh, around the diamond. She's just going around the diamond. He starts

02:01:03.240 running for the fence line and he hears in the background. He hears that she is coming again,

02:01:12.140 uh, towards him now. And he looks behind and here she is and she runs him down on purpose, 1.00

02:01:20.180 on purpose. So she hasn't freaked out. Yeah, no, she is great. This woman's crazy. Okay. So he's

02:01:26.620 unbelievable. He's hit again twice, right? It's crazy. Gosh, you don't know this guy by name,

02:01:33.420 but you know, his work because he finally got a job at the Boston Red Sox and he's the guy,

02:01:40.460 he's the first guy to cut the pattern of like the flag or the logo in the grass. Wow. He's the first

02:01:47.060 guy to do that. And his story is amazing. Uh, it is, it's an actual story that I, I purchased his

02:01:56.060 life story probably 10 years ago. I wanted to play it and wanted to do a book and a movie on it

02:02:02.260 could never get it done. And I felt so bad because it's such a great story. I just gave him the rights

02:02:09.140 back. He's got a new book out. It's called one base at a time. Listen to this podcast. You've never

02:02:15.940 heard anybody like David before such a good guy, such a great, inspiring story. And one, uh, story of

02:02:26.040 a guy who just suffered in silence and nobody knew what he was going through. Don't miss it on

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02:04:17.160 We're just talking about, uh, we're just talking about one base at a time, new book out of the

02:04:34.080 groundskeeper of, uh, Boston Red Sox. And, uh, uh, his story is just absolutely remarkable run

02:04:42.660 over twice by freaky women. Yeah. Really weird. Yeah. I mean, years and years apart in two 0.99

02:04:49.280 different cities. Yeah. The coincidence in his life is just, it's remarkable. Were you really

02:04:55.960 nervous when you walked off the set with him that there was going to be a car that burst

02:04:59.820 through the walls and well, no, he was actually more concerned because Mr. Kool-Aid used to do

02:05:05.320 that to me all the time. Oh, wow. Yeah. He'd break, just break through my wall and then he'd

02:05:10.060 body slam me. He's not that son of a bitch. He's not a nice guy. He's not a nice guy. I know a lot 1.00

02:05:16.080 of people are like, Oh, Mr. Kool-Aid's here. No. Yeah. He's a psycho. Well, I mean, how many

02:05:21.800 gigantic containers of Kool-Aid do you know that are smashed through people's walls where they could

02:05:27.040 go right through the gate or door? If the guy would just use his power for good as opposed to evil,

02:05:32.280 it could change the world. Imagine how popular Kool-Aid would be if he wasn't breaking into

02:05:38.420 people's houses and pinning the children against the walls. So we didn't even talk about his car

02:05:45.000 stuff. We kind of got focused on the, on Kool-Aid, on my Mr. Kool-Aid tragedy that I've carried around

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The Glenn Beck Program - November 01, 2019

The SCARIEST Haunted House and Why It SHOULDN’T Be Banned ｜ Guests： Russ McKamey, Bill O’Reilly, & Megan Phelps-Roper ｜ 11⧸1⧸19

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