The Glenn Beck Program - The Social Justice Lie ｜ Guests： Dr. Voddie Baucham & Matt Ridley

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00:01:29.400 glenn beck program hello america and welcome to the program i am fired up today because i i swear to you

00:01:41.840 yesterday they rightfully came for aunt jemima and aunt jemima finally is out her racist pancakes

00:01:53.620 those days are behind us and i stand with the aunt jemima haters and uncle ben really he's not my

00:02:03.800 uncle he's a racist stereotype because everybody knows the best rice makers were black men but i'm for

00:02:17.580 we were making progress and yet today i open up the newspaper i go online i search and we've done

00:02:26.920 nothing about mr coffee oh how do you like your coffee black this nonsense has got to stop this is

00:02:40.540 the glenn beck program and i mean that too by the way the dixie chicks dixie oh why don't you just

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00:04:57.740 oh my gosh

00:05:01.520 and jemima is finally out stew do you feel better do you feel safer when you go into your pantry now

00:05:09.240 so much safer that woman haunted me for four years really speaking with your white privilege

00:05:15.920 really i mean that's your sins i can't you haven't confessed your sins yet i apparently not i just just

00:05:23.760 put it on a pancake so i i didn't really look at it as a sinful act or i mean it was sinfully

00:05:29.300 delicious uh but uh not not more than that yeah yeah yeah i i i when i had my pancakes uh i said

00:05:39.220 yum but that's an acronym for uh yeah upset me

00:05:46.820 so i yeah i didn't know that yeah i do it every time i every time i have pancakes i confess

00:05:54.120 uh anyway um uncle ben's is uh is now out uh they the quaker oats people the guy uh the the company

00:06:05.100 that has the quaker man a religious symbol as their company symbol yeah yeah quaker as in the

00:06:16.280 quaker church is in the quakers as in you know white people that wanted to stop slavery and fought for

00:06:22.860 abolition and they were the biggest abolitionist of all time but they're white and they lived in the

00:06:30.860 colonial area era and so they were there in america hello a racist country systematic racism of the

00:06:41.180 quaker guy he's still on the cover of all of the quaker oats stuff anyway uh they came out and said

00:06:48.760 racism has no place in in society do you agree with that stew well of course you do

00:06:55.340 nobody disagrees with that okay maybe the clan disagrees with that yes you don't get to stand

00:07:04.440 in unfortunately you don't get to uh you know you don't get to declare that it's not like michael

00:07:10.520 scott walking out of the room and say i declare bankruptcy it doesn't mean you go bankrupt when that

00:07:15.540 happens you like whether you think it has a place in society or not some people are going to do it

00:07:21.080 it's very few right we should work from reality instead of instead of these things i think covid19

00:07:27.580 has no place in society cured it's gonna be there it's gonna be there there's like turkmenistan who

00:07:33.740 went on and uh they actually banned the word coronavirus and so far they've had zero cases

00:07:38.980 of coronavirus what do you do in the rest of the world you suckers turkmenistan you know what

00:07:44.200 cured this thing a while ago you know uh amedin ajad when he came and spoke at columbia university he was

00:07:50.040 asked about uh homosexuals and how they stone homosexuals and he said we have no homosexual

00:07:54.640 problem in uh iran because we don't have homosexuals there there you go uh problem for akh madenajad at

00:08:01.540 least solved yeah all right so anyway racism has no place in society and here's the problem

00:08:08.540 we stand in solidarity with the black community not a problem that's fine our associates good and our

00:08:14.500 partners great in the fight for social justice social justice is evil it started out great it

00:08:26.000 started out really nice in the 1800s it's a catholic kind of idea social justice has been hijacked by the

00:08:34.420 early 20th century and nobody seems to care about that oh no it just means no it doesn't no it doesn't

00:08:42.480 it doesn't just mean helping out that's called helping out social justice now means marxism

00:08:50.340 so anyway i don't know how i got there uh oh yeah it's all the companies that are all saying that

00:08:56.520 they're all for social justice shut up none of you none of you none of you are actually thinking

00:09:04.100 about what any of this means all you're doing is just trying to get some good pr i mean this is

00:09:10.060 this is what happened with the nazis i you know what we're absolutely with the national socialist

00:09:16.720 movement because you know we're tired of the bad economy and the lawlessness and uh these guys seem

00:09:23.740 to be very patriotic yeah yeah yeah yeah they were patriotic maybe a little bit too patriotic

00:09:31.600 you've got to look at who you're standing with oh my gosh anyway so so uncle ben's is out i i again

00:09:42.340 i suggest that everyone in this audience begin to tweet and demand that the dixie chicks change their

00:09:49.180 name what are you standing with the confederacy you're standing with those statues ladies are you

00:09:55.440 collecting those confederate statues you seem so high on dixie holy cow what a group of racist you are i

00:10:06.280 won't rest until the dixie chicks have to change their name anyway um mrs buttersworth mrs buttersworth

00:10:15.200 is uh now undergoing a complete brand and packaging review uh now mrs buttersworth i didn't even know she

00:10:23.340 was black is she black or is are they changing mrs buttersworth because she's so offensive because

00:10:29.940 she's fat what is it you're doing you're you're using a fat person to say yummy syrup is here what

00:10:38.820 do you what is that mrs buttersworth my gosh are you sleeping with mr coffee because that bastard's got

00:10:46.080 to be stopped just holy cow historical accuracy it's mr mrs butters not mrs buttersworth mrs

00:10:53.080 butterworth oh it's miss butter butter singular butter oh okay singular butter

00:10:58.380 still fat i don't care what you call it she's still fat what are you what is this you saying that

00:11:07.080 all people that make good food are fat is that what you're saying and by the way i still uh leave

00:11:12.840 my offer open to miss uh mrs butterworth uh and you i mean i'll even wear a wig i'll you know what

00:11:19.680 i'll undergo the knife you want to use my image i mean it's going to cost a lot but i mean everybody

00:11:24.820 else is selling their soul to the devil so why not uh i'll give you i'll set a price what's it worth

00:11:30.980 for me to become a woman a lesbian because i'd still be married to my wife would you be let's ask

00:11:38.860 tanya about that because i'm not sure that one's confirmed yeah so you have to ask tanya what the price

00:11:43.660 is i have to know it's probably it's probably there probably somewhere in the divorce papers

00:11:48.700 that price is but anyway i i mean i've already offered myself to be the new uh colonel sanders

00:11:54.720 because i look like colonel sanders but why can't i look like uh mrs butterworth well why can't i i mean

00:12:02.160 are you saying that a man can't be mrs butterworth one with a beard i try my gravy or my syrup or

00:12:09.580 whatever it is it's delicious and nobody is nobody's looking at black and decker who's decker and what's

00:12:19.340 he doing with black uh hello wonder bread isn't that just saying white privilege

00:12:26.780 i mean i'm as white as white bread wonder bread oh it can do anything because it's white

00:12:36.040 ken and barbie could he get any whiter or more privilege privilege er could it i mean why not why

00:12:49.000 not brianna and kente why not where's the beef yeah where's the beef the real beef is we should all

00:13:01.280 we should we should all stand against wendy's for literally having a white girl in their logo and

00:13:06.620 then mr clean shows up a bald blue-eyed tough guy wearing an all-white t-shirt he's got a a ring in

00:13:15.280 his in his ear and solid white eyebrows this guy is this is the symbol of alt-right racism i mean why

00:13:24.040 don't we just call him mr clan for the love of pete scotch tape scotch tape oh my gosh you supremacists

00:13:34.940 i mean i can't believe scotch tape we all know that the scotch were the ones who really brought

00:13:43.220 the idea of individual freedom i mean it was the scotch that brought over uh from their scottish

00:13:53.580 you know thistle land or whatever it is they brought all of these ideas over to the white

00:13:59.360 men here and there's not a black person in scottishville

00:14:04.040 boy oh boy yeah no amount of your tape could hold your pack of lies together i'm so glad they're

00:14:13.120 coming for you copper tone copper tone what is it why does it have to be about color or is it about

00:14:19.180 color has it always been about cops copper tone white castle i'm not even going to start with

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00:17:12.160 to miss the uh a minute of today's show coming up in about 40 minutes is a guy from zambia uh who a

00:17:21.000 friend sent me a video of him a few years ago and uh i tried to get a hold of him and i saw this guy

00:17:28.160 he is a he's a black theologian he is absolutely brilliant and he was making these these videos

00:17:36.860 you know about social justice and what it's really about and and uh white guilt and all this stuff

00:17:42.940 and uh tried to get a hold of him and he's moved uh to zambia africa um he and his family because he

00:17:53.360 had been chased out of the country with so much hate and vitriol from the left and they just destroyed

00:18:00.280 this guy just destroyed him destroyed his uh his ministry over here i think he was in florida

00:18:07.600 and took him apart to where he couldn't make any money couldn't do anything because of his point

00:18:13.380 of view and it's really well thought out and well spoken um and so i call him over in africa i don't

00:18:21.260 know about a week ago and i'm like what are you doing and he said you know they said that i didn't

00:18:27.200 care about black people and i'm a black person uh now they won't you know they won't recognize at all

00:18:33.000 that i am serving in africa so he's actually a dean of a school over in africa in zambia right now

00:18:40.840 uh and i'm trying to convince him to come back to the united states because i think his voice is so

00:18:46.200 incredibly important pray for him and his family his family really went through a lot um but he's going

00:18:53.880 to be uh he's going to be on uh with us in about 40 minutes and he's going to talk about uh uh what is

00:19:00.220 it ethnic rest um uh gnosticism let me see if i got it right it's maybe it's race gnosticism

00:19:07.960 um you know ethnic gnosticism gnosticism is it comes from the uh group of gnostics um in the middle

00:19:19.120 ages or um you know early on in the church and they believed some crazy stuff they believed that you

00:19:25.000 were born either knowing or not knowing uh and those who were born knowing what's right and what's

00:19:31.660 good oh they'd go to heaven the rest of us were just doomed uh and and you really couldn't challenge

00:19:37.840 them on anything because they knew well that's kind of what's happening with ethnic gnosticism a word

00:19:44.160 that he has or a phrase that he has uh coined ethnic gnosticism meaning you know if you're white you

00:19:51.580 don't get it you never will they'll explain it to you but you still don't understand it um because

00:19:56.820 you're not gnostic you just weren't born black so you weren't born knowing it is incredibly racist and

00:20:04.660 incredibly dangerous and he's now the dean of theology of african christian university former pastor of

00:20:11.660 grace family baptist church and uh he's going to be with us uh giving us a sermon if you will

00:20:18.960 coming up in uh about 40 minutes also did you hear about the the terrorists that we killed in

00:20:25.620 syria with the new ninja bomb did you read this still no but we greatest thing ever we need more

00:20:33.760 ninja bombs i don't know what they do but we need more of them oh really do we mr racist taking

00:20:40.540 someone else's culture and appropriating it a ninja bomb so what the ninja what the ninja bomb is

00:20:48.120 is uh this incredible uh rocket uh that you know we have um let's see if i can find out what the

00:20:56.240 name of that rocket is that we we use the hellfire rocket you've heard of the hellfire missile this is

00:21:02.000 an r9x missile it's a modified modified hellfire and the hellfire missile is the kill radius is about

00:21:10.220 700 feet so it can cause a lot of collateral damage but because america is a good place

00:21:18.100 we have been trying to get that kill radius down because we don't want to kill innocent bystanders

00:21:24.960 when we're targeting you know military leaders so these two military leaders were in their car

00:21:31.020 driving down the road uh on sunday and the u.s led a strike and we we let go of one of these hellfire

00:21:39.900 r9x missiles um it doesn't explode the kill radius is a little smaller it's 30 inches and it doesn't

00:21:54.000 actually explode the top of the missile comes out right before it hits and it breaks up and

00:22:02.080 knives come out of the of the front and it's like it creates like a fan almost it just slices a 30 inch

00:22:11.360 hole through anything and just makes gravy out of anything standing in its way 30 inches people 30

00:22:21.160 inches away from the target are not affected yeah america just doesn't care we just kill everybody

00:22:30.660 don't we unbelievable tell me another country that would do that this is the glenn beck program

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00:22:59.700 and the only thing the man insisted on was a a glass bottle recapturing the magic of his own youth

00:23:08.880 is an act of happy transference from grandfather to grandson fishing poles are cast mortifyingly

00:23:16.960 cold drinks are slowly enjoyed and the morning sun rises on the still cool waters the boy's feet

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00:24:00.060 holy cow i can i may i just say the

00:24:29.560 john bolton has zero credibility with me zero credibility anybody with me on this

00:24:37.320 stew pat yes i am i don't know about stew you know the the gay character on the show is always

00:24:46.240 so unpredictable i i don't know which he is unpredictable i'm expecting ding dong and

00:24:51.700 like a little cousin of his is going to move in exactly i'm proud to be in a protected class

00:24:57.000 yeah uh but uh uh john bolton he comes out yesterday with with uh you know excerpts of his

00:25:06.600 book and i have to tell you this is despicable to me it's despicable if you really believe that he

00:25:15.760 was that dangerous because he paints the picture of donald trump being the most dangerous person you

00:25:21.680 would ever want anywhere near the white house and and he didn't say anything he didn't come out and

00:25:28.780 just say no he waited for two million dollar payday it's grotesque grotesque and he said i didn't say

00:25:36.860 anything because you know it would have been it would have just all become political okay so now it's

00:25:40.760 all political but you got two million dollars yeah it's gonna be political you might as well get the

00:25:46.080 two million dollars too you know it sounds great just bad as you know i'm a gay character i mean if

00:25:53.640 i'm gonna be gay i might as well be gay for two million extra dollars i mean i don't i mean if it's

00:25:57.240 gonna be gay either way not on this program um so so here's the uh uh everybody's paid an equal wage

00:26:04.940 and don't think that through don't think that through anyway um uh the uh the the thing about

00:26:12.520 uh you know i had um adam carolla on last night and he i said to him you know about this this culture

00:26:22.880 of of canceling everybody and he said you know glenn that's why i i did what you did we both did it

00:26:31.740 we created our own platform so nobody can cancel us from it and first of all that's not true um i could

00:26:38.780 be canceled from the radio which i think i think your local radio station especially talk

00:26:44.780 is in deep trouble deep trouble if this president loses this election uh i think we are on the verge

00:26:52.400 of us silencing our voices like you cannot even imagine um but he said you know i started my own

00:27:00.820 platform blah blah blah and you know so i don't worry about it yeah well i i get that but what about

00:27:06.840 the average person and he said you know you've got to just go along with it if you want to keep your

00:27:11.320 job no you don't there comes a point to where you know i can compromise and you know there were things

00:27:18.240 that there were things that i believe that i shall never say but there are things uh but i will never

00:27:23.780 say the things that i do not believe uh you know when i was at fox that was rupert murdoch's company

00:27:30.600 and i said that to roger ailes when i was there look uh i i'm not necessarily going to play ball and

00:27:36.820 and say the things that i don't agree with but it's your company and if this is causing you problems

00:27:45.200 okay um i'll i'll say it elsewhere but you you still say it you still there there are times when you say

00:27:54.580 okay i i'm gonna i'm gonna compromise here and not be very clear because it doesn't just involve me

00:28:02.180 but when you come down to where we are in america now i you don't play ball with marxists you don't

00:28:11.460 give in am i wrong i mean i am willing to lose everything that i have to save the country

00:28:20.600 is it just me yes you're the only one willing to do that it probably is just you but um no it's not

00:28:30.740 if you would yeah you would stew you're not going to get on the air and say things that you don't

00:28:35.620 believe because otherwise they're going to kick you off the air well you would stew i'm currently in

00:28:39.800 the middle of you becoming a gay character even though i'm totally straight just don't do anything

00:28:44.880 for money what are you talking about no i mean of course i i you know and i i don't know i think

00:28:49.360 you're right it does it never looks good when you release this stuff in a book right it never does

00:28:53.520 you know do i you know you said like it makes him sound like the worst person to ever be close

00:28:59.400 to the white house most of the stuff i've read so far sounds like stuff donald trump says in

00:29:05.360 negotiations and doesn't mean anything you know like the fact that he's saying to president g hey

00:29:10.740 uh you know i i love your concentration camp sounds like a great idea like we all know donald trump

00:29:16.680 doesn't love concentration camps he didn't he didn't start building them he didn't send over

00:29:20.620 crews to help build walls over at the concentration camp what did he do because of that situation and

00:29:25.280 the answer is nothing nothing it's just he says all sorts of things that mean nothing yeah he's

00:29:29.460 constantly in negotiation mode and but what is the difference between hey your concentration camps

00:29:35.500 are great uh you know maybe i'll come you know maybe we can do a trump one and it'll be an

00:29:40.680 exclusive concentrate i mean what is the difference between him saying that

00:29:44.560 and joe biden giving a speech in front of president z saying you know i i agree you know

00:29:50.180 while it's not right for america i see why you have your one child policy and it works well for you

00:29:55.920 what's the difference it's a great point what's the difference there's no difference yeah and i mean

00:30:01.040 does anybody doubt that probably half jokingly president trump could have said yeah you know what we

00:30:08.480 should do is execute some of these journalists i mean behind the scenes that's very possible but

00:30:13.940 he didn't mean they should actually execute them did he execute any journalists is the question we

00:30:19.380 all need to ask as a matter of fact he hasn't rounded them up like barack obama did he's been much better

00:30:24.360 for journalists than barack obama was when it comes to using the law and his power against them

00:30:29.200 could he have said you know what would be fun invading venezuela taking those oil

00:30:34.620 totally might have said that totally so what did he involve did he invade venezuela the answer is no

00:30:42.680 to judge donald trump's presidency it is the most efficient and intelligent thing to do is just

00:30:49.680 dismiss the things he says and watch what he does you don't know what he says he again like think of

00:30:54.200 north korea he said he was going to annihilate the country and then like two days later said he was a

00:31:00.740 good friend of kim jong-un neither one of those is true like we all know neither one is true hyperbolic

00:31:06.960 he speaks hyperbolic and he says a lot of it because he thinks he's getting an advantage in a

00:31:11.160 negotiation or it's helping the press or whatever it is you can't just look at what he does not what

00:31:16.440 he says that's the best way to judge his presidency but he also says things to jar the thinking of

00:31:23.880 others for instance or himself when they said he actually said let's put alligators in the water

00:31:29.460 and build a moat on the southern border okay did he say that i bet he did but he said i bet he said

00:31:36.840 it like this uh mr president we can't do uh this and we can't do that and we can't build this wall

00:31:42.760 you know we've got all these other problems you know what then maybe why don't we just build a

00:31:46.220 moat and put some alligators in it yes i mean anybody got a problem with alligators let's put

00:31:50.420 alligators in there yeah because you guys aren't doing anything yep it could have happened that way

00:31:56.540 right and it it it jars people's thinking you know why not why don't we just bomb them

00:32:03.520 well because mr president and if you're an old stodgy system you need to go in there and break up the

00:32:13.560 thinking you need to go in and go well why haven't we thought about just bombing the snot out of them

00:32:18.220 why haven't we just gone in there mr president we don't because of x y and z well have we thought

00:32:24.960 about bombing them yes we have well i'm leaning towards bombing them you're leaning towards giving

00:32:31.580 them fruitcake why don't you come up with another plan and see me about it yeah and then they come

00:32:37.260 back it's the overton window they come back with something that they wouldn't have ever done

00:32:43.060 unless the president was saying you know what maybe we should bomb them right i mean he just

00:32:48.120 fundamentally communicates different than other people communicate when when you say something

00:32:51.920 glenn or pat says something to me what i assume is that glenn or pat mean the thing they're saying

00:32:57.680 they believe that thing and they're saying it because it's something they believe when donald trump

00:33:01.840 says things you can't take it that way he is in constant negotiation mode and when he goes into

00:33:07.840 these situations he's not calculating of let me think of what my heart my my my help closely held

00:33:13.380 belief is and uh and express that to kim jong uh kim jong un or president g he going in there and

00:33:20.940 saying like what do i need to do to improve my situation how do i get x y or z done let me say

00:33:26.320 whatever i have to to get that done is that something that you should do there are legitimate questions

00:33:31.700 as to whether that's a good idea but if you haven't priced that into donald trump at this point

00:33:36.380 what what are you doing like i mean this is what he's been doing since long before he was running

00:33:41.280 for president wait you glenn how many times have you told this story about tiffany's where he said

00:33:45.840 he was going to build the ugliest building in the world if they didn't give him the air rights for a

00:33:49.520 building he wanted to build he was going to build the ugliest building in the world right next to

00:33:52.500 tiffany's it was going to basically destroy their business was there a chance that donald trump was

00:33:56.700 really going to go in there and make the ugliest building in the world next to tiffany's in the

00:34:01.060 middle of new york city my guess is it's possible with donald trump which is why it's successful

00:34:05.800 but probably not like he's not going to spend millions and millions of his own dollars just

00:34:10.620 to make a point against tiffany's right right but but the tiffany's didn't know that they didn't know

00:34:16.440 you know i i haven't talked about i haven't talked about a phone call that i have i talked about this

00:34:21.540 on the air well i mean you have to go deeper than a phone call i i assume you've had several what phone

00:34:26.920 call i'm talking about uh i got a phone call from the president a few months back uh and we spoke for

00:34:34.240 about a half an hour and it was it was fascinating fascinating i learned a lot about him uh and uh

00:34:44.380 he said he said to me uh good for you knowing the tiffany story not a lot of people know that i said

00:34:52.860 yeah well i've done my homework uh and uh he said uh good for you meaning because we were talking about

00:35:01.680 something else we were talking about trade and i said i just assumed that you're doing some of the

00:35:07.460 tiffany's stuff and he said what do you mean by that and i told him that you know i started telling

00:35:12.620 him the story and that's when he said good for you and it was it was almost in uh of a fashion of

00:35:20.160 saying that as uh you understand most don't and that's what you have to understand about donald trump

00:35:29.140 first of all he has diarrhea of the mouth uh i mean you know my my mother used to say glenn you've

00:35:35.020 got diarrhea of the mouth which means just crap just shoots out of my mouth and you know you'll find

00:35:40.660 pieces of something that was for dinner three weeks ago it has nothing to do with what you had dinner

00:35:46.140 you know last night and uh and uh and that's what he has there's things that just shoot out of his

00:35:53.260 mouth uh and others are very calculated and you can't dismiss when he's in a room of hostiles like

00:36:01.740 he was with tiffany's absolutely that he isn't saying things to shake them to the core and you know

00:36:09.000 the other thing that i think you were alluding to with your analogy was that uh uh john bolton

00:36:15.140 was there for how long how long was he a part of this how long if you had this big a problem with

00:36:20.780 this president you should have gotten out and said something much sooner than now if you really

00:36:26.060 believe that he is the problem that you're making him out to be that he is dangerous to america well

00:36:32.720 then you should have quit and you should have made your feelings known and understood loud and clear

00:36:37.520 a long time ago otherwise right otherwise you're just doing it for your own purposes you're doing it

00:36:44.580 i mean if that's not cashing in uh on and and trading your country's security uh for cash if it's not

00:36:55.180 one of the most grotesque things i've i've ever seen and i say i say this about the people who wrote

00:37:00.300 the obama books the people that write any of these things wait a minute you're holding back critical

00:37:05.560 information and you're doing it for money it's it's grotesque absolutely grotesque all right back in just a

00:37:14.420 minute thank you very much pat gray i need my uh commercial copy i don't have it who am i

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00:39:19.860 i have to tell you i don't know how police officers are doing it especially in atlanta

00:39:41.180 yesterday did you see they they came out and they charged this police officer with murder

00:39:46.520 uh which is i've watched the whole video i don't know how you arrive at that but what's worse

00:39:53.360 is even the new york times has pointed out when this first happened that the da is running for

00:40:00.620 re-election and the new york times was afraid that they might they might try to politicize this

00:40:07.020 well the state of georgia the bureau of investigation came out yesterday and said they asked us to

00:40:12.620 investigate this we have just begun our investigation haven't made any recommendations and we were

00:40:18.000 shocked when the da came out with uh with the charges wow you know what else is interesting about that

00:40:24.940 this is the da paul howard two weeks ago declared that tasers are a deadly weapon yes okay well he had a

00:40:34.920 deadly weapon then and he was defending himself against a deadly weapon really strange no no he didn't

00:40:40.780 have a deadly weapon they should have found some other way to deal with it yeah i mean you can't

00:40:45.560 say it's a deadly weapon when in the hands of police and then when it's in the hands of somebody

00:40:49.620 else not say it's a deadly weapon it's it's crazy my issue here is that look the guy was running away

00:40:55.660 why not shoot him in the toes if you just hit his little toe he's gonna fall he wouldn't be able

00:41:00.240 to run a little toe first not the big toe you don't go for the big no that would be too much

00:41:03.820 that would be too much force but if you got his little toe yes then he would fall to the ground

00:41:08.940 and you'd be able to apprehend him and the cop didn't want to do that because he's obviously

00:41:12.780 racist really police union said uh they didn't have a blue out last night they they people weren't

00:41:19.340 calling in sick but a lot of calls in atlanta went unanswered apparently yesterday and i don't blame

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00:45:39.700 i am so excited to introduce you to a man next uh who i can't believe i didn't know in the past

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00:45:59.620 social justice uh it's he was smeared and blackballed and and everything else he's now in

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00:48:16.140 so a couple of weeks ago uh i get up here at the ranch and a friend of mine writes to me and said

00:48:26.660 glenn you need to watch this video and it was on ethnic gnosticism uh normally something like ethnic

00:48:34.480 gnosticism doesn't jump out at people but i am a i'm actually a fan i when i went to uh

00:48:40.900 uh college for about 10 minutes um gnostics were part of what i studied and they were it was a crazy

00:48:48.660 it's a crazy philosophy uh that there are just some people who are born knowing uh and others who

00:48:56.240 just will never get it so if you're born knowing you're gonna go to heaven because you're saved um

00:49:01.480 because you get it and the others they're just never gonna get it so ethnic gnosticism

00:49:07.280 piqued my interest and i watched it and i thought why haven't i heard of this guy before

00:49:12.800 a guy who grew up in california um you know if you if you if you uh

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00:49:36.900 with a simple peaceful quiet delivery that is uh vadi uh bajam he is a doctor of uh theology and uh

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00:49:55.000 seminary honorary degree from southern california uh seminary uh and postgraduate study of the

00:50:01.980 university of oxford england he's he has nine children been married since 1989 and currently lives

00:50:10.740 in zambia because of the heat that he received uh when he started talking about these things just a few

00:50:18.680 years ago uh and uh all of his opportunities closed up because of the exact kind of cancel culture that

00:50:25.460 we're talking about now but you need to hear his voice so we have do we have the skype do we have

00:50:31.900 the um uh skype connection and i'm sorry is is it voting okay voting i gotta tell you you look like

00:50:40.060 moses man you're this is great um uh thank you for coming on i know that you have gone through

00:50:47.260 a lot with your family uh and you're now serving the african community in zambia but i wish you were

00:50:54.480 here um let's talk a little bit about ethnic gnosticism and and teach the american people what

00:51:02.120 is really going on here yeah well first uh thank you for having me on thank you for giving me this

00:51:10.340 opportunity um just i want to say that we came here we've been here almost five years and really it

00:51:18.320 was the lord calling us here to be a part of the work that that he was doing here um but you you are

00:51:25.140 correct in that uh things were difficult these issues and coined the term ethnic gnosticism and you

00:51:35.680 know as you've said the the idea that there are certain people who have special knowledge

00:51:42.340 and what we're seeing right now in our culture we've been seeing for a while is the idea

00:51:48.820 oppressed uh groups i would say minority groups but um that's not really the way we talk about it

00:51:58.620 because for example we talk about women as one of these oppressed groups and they're actually not

00:52:02.400 a minority they're the majority um but when you belong to you have a special knowledge as it relates to

00:52:12.900 oppression that other people do not and cannot understand and it's rather ironic because what we

00:52:22.940 hear all the time is you need to right you you you have to listen to us so that you can understand us

00:52:30.880 but the premise of ethnic one of us you literally cannot understand us

00:52:39.380 okay let me let me restate this here because his skype is his skype is kind of uh catching a couple

00:52:45.320 of times you have to cut some slack here because he's he's from zambia he's calling us via skype from

00:52:51.640 zambia uh so uh this is an amazing thing that i think we can have it this uh this good you just said

00:52:58.980 uh the uh the uh the oppressed groups will know they have they're the gnostics they know and the

00:53:07.400 others who are not in in that oppressed group they can never know they just they even if you explain

00:53:13.840 it to them they can't really know yeah and so it's a it's really a catch-22 for

00:53:23.720 understand um people who have a desire to do the right thing um a desire to have a better understanding

00:53:34.780 and sympathize and sympathize and empathize with others um you're essentially told that it's not

00:53:42.960 possible we're also told that when it comes to understanding the truth of these issues

00:53:48.260 that the truth is not necessarily determined by evidence per se it's determined by the experience

00:53:57.980 this is so frustrating the experience of uh that oppressed group i'm assuming he's uh saying are

00:54:12.280 you there yes okay yes yeah so so we are i mean this yeah i tell you what let me just take a quick

00:54:20.900 break and then we'll try to reconnect but um when you come back i i really want to uh i i did a special

00:54:27.060 last night where i talked about how this is a cult this is a religion uh and what you're describing

00:54:33.780 is religious in its nature i mean the gnostics were a a religion uh and it's got all of the earmarks of a

00:54:43.360 religion which means that there's a never-ending supply of souls that need to be saved but in this

00:54:49.140 case they can never really be saved because they'll never really know uh and it allows you to

00:54:57.000 have this wiggle room of well evidence doesn't matter because this is a faith and it's very

00:55:03.820 very dangerous we'll reconnect uh and uh and continue our conversation i i hope that we can

00:55:09.820 get a good connection here i'm trying to convince him to come back to the united states as soon as this

00:55:13.860 covid thing is over um and uh and spend some time because i i you just need to hear him uh speak

00:55:22.280 and hear what he has to say he takes on social justice and ethnic gnosticism uh and what's going

00:55:29.220 on right now in america he takes it head on and he speaks with real knowledge and experience we'll

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00:56:48.480 so voting bottom is a dean of theology at the african christian university um he is with us now from

00:57:12.040 zambia we've reconnected with him so so tell us how how this breaks apart and how this is really

00:57:20.440 kind of an anti-christ sort of message voting

00:57:25.000 yes and this is why this is really concerning to me because our knowledge we understand our knowledge

00:57:36.660 comes from god that god is the source of all knowledge we understand that the scriptures

00:57:41.920 are sufficient and we go to the bible to understand truth and we look at the world the way the world is

00:57:51.580 god made the world in such a way that we can do real science for example because there are things that

00:57:59.760 we can expect from an orderly universe that was made by an intelligent creator so as christians

00:58:07.960 these are the ways that we seek for truth not through special individuals who have special knowledge

00:58:16.480 we don't reduce our faith to the testimony of others we build our faith on the testimony of god

00:58:23.340 right this seems to be almost a um a regression back to the dark ages when you had to go to the

00:58:32.620 priest because you couldn't read the language you couldn't own a bible yourself and it's what what

00:58:38.800 freed mankind was getting those middlemen out of the way you had the power to find truth on your own

00:58:46.520 you were smart enough and you could live it and if you did the work you could find truth

00:58:52.240 now we're saying in almost every front no no no you need a middleman you can't decide that you're not

00:58:59.120 smart enough and you just don't now this one is you will never be smart enough if you're white you

00:59:05.500 will never have this knowledge yeah and there are a number of people uh john mcorder and others who have

00:59:17.720 uh likened this movement uh the sort of anti-racism movement to a religion and you hit the nail on the

00:59:25.980 head there is this idea of saints and sinners uh jim wallace uh wrote a book and the title of his book

00:59:34.240 was america's original sin and so again there are these this religious connotations here and what worries

00:59:41.660 me about this is that there are real problems there are there's real racism there's real evil there's

00:59:50.860 real hatred it's real injustice and the answer to those things is a god who saves through the person

00:59:59.540 and work of christ that's that's our message as christians right or at least it used to be now the

01:00:06.340 message is the answer is something other than the forgiveness that we find through god in christ now

01:00:17.920 the answer is somehow you have to do enough penance and it's been interesting to watch scenes of white

01:00:25.600 people literally kneeling and bowing and genuflecting in in in repentance you know over over their sin of

01:00:34.740 of white privilege or you know uh bias or conscious bias or unconscious bias or whatever else and the

01:00:44.320 problem with this is that this religion is promising salvation somewhere other than god and unfortunately

01:00:52.920 there are many christians who are sounding like they're rather satisfied with this oh yeah i i'm i'm

01:01:00.000 struck with you know i've i've been uh ringing the bell against social justice for ever since i

01:01:06.620 discovered it you know uh what 15 years ago uh and said this this and collective salvation and the

01:01:13.760 teachings of wallace and everybody else is is evil it is it is the it's an upside down world from what god

01:01:21.020 uh wants i'm struck by the fact that an earmark of anything that i think would be evil would be

01:01:28.960 there is no forgiveness that that that that is the most un-christian kind of thing i've ever heard

01:01:38.440 there's god if there is a god that does not forgive us then everything we know about christianity is

01:01:45.980 wrong and i don't want to live in that world but we're now being told that there is no forgiveness

01:01:52.440 even if you beg for forgiveness and i see people bowing down and part of me understands and says

01:02:00.360 okay well we all want to get along i think this plays on the best part of us but our biggest achilles

01:02:06.640 heel people want to get along they want people to feel good and i you know if i if i can help in this

01:02:14.840 situation by saying man i'm really sorry that you feel that way i'm really uh it it does bother me

01:02:21.260 that you've gone through this but that's not what's happening here uh what's happening here is

01:02:29.060 i i'm really sorry you went through this but then i have to extend it out to and i am somehow involved

01:02:36.640 in this i somehow am the cause of your current pain and crisis and that doesn't make any sense to me

01:02:44.920 and i think you hit on something that's very important when you say that that doesn't make

01:02:51.600 any sense to me i think what's happening is people are having two different discussions

01:02:55.820 and they don't realize that they're having two different discussions

01:02:58.920 people look at for example like the george floyd death and they see this tragic situation

01:03:05.320 and on the one hand there's just universal condemnation of what happened um i haven't heard of

01:03:15.180 anyone i'm sure there's you know somebody out there i haven't heard any either and can never

01:03:20.360 whatever but universally they condemn this but then what happens is people are explaining this in

01:03:25.420 two different ways there are some people who are saying see there's the racism and there are other

01:03:31.440 people who are saying wait you know there's four officers two black one asian one white this white

01:03:37.980 officer did that did this how how how do we just declare that this is racism and and what that's an

01:03:46.500 example of is these two competing worldviews um one worldview that says racism is individual

01:03:55.200 it's an individual heart issue and that's the world where we deal with the individual heart

01:04:02.820 issue with the message of the gospel but then there's another worldview that says no no no no no

01:04:08.820 regardless of individual heart issue this is a structural and institutional issue therefore

01:04:16.720 and this is what boggles people's minds sometimes they'll say it doesn't matter what the facts of the

01:04:22.080 case are this is evident structural and institutional racism and what that's doing is it's driving

01:04:30.220 people apart because we're having two different conversations that don't make sense to each other

01:04:37.840 because there's rules to this that are in for some people not understood and for others are so

01:04:48.820 clear that they don't even need to be spoken so i want to i want to uh i want to take a quick break

01:04:57.960 because we only have about a minute left uh and i i want to take a quick break and come back to you and

01:05:02.620 ask you about social justice and white privilege he could because you say those are lies uh and are

01:05:11.540 taking us down uh the wrong road um and i want you to talk specifically to those people because i've a lot

01:05:20.840 of them in this audience that are going to church and they're hearing talk of social justice um catholics

01:05:26.620 in particular say social justice isn't bad because they kind of go off of this old meaning of social

01:05:33.800 justice from the 1800s but that was hijacked long ago um so i want you to take on social justice and

01:05:41.220 uh and talk to the pastors and the preachers and the priests uh and the people who are listening

01:05:48.280 uh and trying to do the right thing uh on where they might be going wrong and what we should be doing

01:05:56.200 we'll do that in a second thank you so much for being with us

01:05:59.060 um we're going to be back in uh just a second uh with uh with more you have to watch his youtube

01:06:10.620 videos we'll we'll link them and send them out on social media um but he gives these sermons that

01:06:18.320 are so right on the money and so well spoken and so clear and clarifying that uh

01:06:26.180 uh it's no wonder the left has come after him and his family as hard as they have uh it's um

01:06:34.480 it's a remarkable thing quite honestly how evil works back in a minute

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01:06:44.980 do you know some people go running with their dogs i mean i saw this the other day and i shook my

01:06:52.860 head and discussed i'm like oh my gosh i mean you might have to stay healthy and happy and

01:06:58.520 everything else but why are you forcing your dog to go running for in the god forsaken heat no less

01:07:04.140 i mean it makes me sick what some people will do

01:07:07.220 anyway the other day uh the other thing the uh the dogs need uh you know the running thing they can

01:07:14.080 do that on their own nutrients vitamins minerals antioxidants probiotics omega oils the list goes on and on

01:07:21.060 i mean i'm so upset about this honestly because my wife keeps asking me and i'm like

01:07:24.920 i am not your dog come on just go running i am not your dog i am gonna lay here on the carpet and i am

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01:08:07.320 well supreme court just came out with another ruling it's not going to make you

01:08:37.280 apparently the obama executive order cannot be overturned with a trump executive order

01:08:45.640 uh i don't even understand how that works we have a lot of commentary on this coming up in just a

01:08:51.340 minute uh but uh let me just say this not going to come as a surprise john roberts sided with the

01:08:57.700 liberals which is now becoming the most redundant sentence ever uttered of course he did um we have

01:09:06.920 dr vody bacham on with us he is the dean of theology of african christian university he's on skype with

01:09:12.780 us from zambia uh and i want to i want to talk to you uh about a couple of things we have about 15

01:09:18.340 minutes here left so can you can you please explain the difference between social justice that a

01:09:24.360 christian would understand uh and the social justice that is now being preached from many of

01:09:29.500 our pulpits that is an anti-christian message

01:09:33.140 well social justice has been understood clearly for a while and social justice is distributive justice

01:09:48.000 social justice is about uh redistributing um resources and opportunities social justice is

01:09:58.240 not the same as the biblical idea and the biblical concept of justice you also need to understand that

01:10:04.940 uh social justice is built on uh the back of critical theory which is all about the idea of

01:10:13.620 you know hegemony and power structures and hegemony may sound like a big academic word it just means

01:10:21.020 that there there's a power structure that exists because of the individuals who set the rules of

01:10:26.940 the game and they did it in order to the critical theory is marxist i just want to throw that in

01:10:35.140 correct that's a carl marx theory yes that's okay yes most assuredly all right go ahead yeah

01:10:42.020 the idea is that the the power structure comes from uh the elites who establish things they they set

01:10:50.940 the rules of the game and they set the rules of the game in order to benefit themselves and and their

01:10:57.440 posterity and everybody else is oppressed because they're not part of the hegemony this by the way is

01:11:04.020 why women although they're a majority are considered an oppressed minority because the hegemony is white

01:11:11.060 male christian heterosexual cisgendered you know on and on and on and on and on okay um and so social

01:11:20.200 justice is about really transferring power from those in the hegemony to those in oppressed groups

01:11:30.920 the individual doesn't matter and again this is why this bothers me so much because as a christian

01:11:37.880 and as a minister of the gospel i preach christ and him crucified i preach the the work that he has done

01:11:46.100 and that we need to receive personally if if we get into this critical theory business where everything

01:11:54.220 becomes structural all of a sudden this gospel has to either be transformed into something that the bible

01:12:01.020 doesn't recognize or it has to be out and so this social justice movement black lives matter for example

01:12:09.200 anyone who reads what they believe will see that they are anti-christian they are fundamentally

01:12:16.740 anti-christian um and so this this whole idea this whole idea of the social justice movement

01:12:22.480 and i get a lot of flack for it because you know either you have conscious bias or unconscious bias

01:12:29.240 or you have internalized bias if you don't you know buy this gemini right um you know so it's interesting

01:12:38.880 how uh critical theory sort of hedges itself in and protects itself on all sides oh right it's it's

01:12:46.300 it's the same as witch hunts it's same as witch hunts i mean you know that's exactly what a witch

01:12:52.120 would say well i mean how do you defend yourself so let me ask let me ask i have two more questions

01:13:00.820 for you first of all um the people that i know the white people that i the americans that i know first

01:13:08.040 of all this is happening all over the world this is not an american problem it's not a white person

01:13:14.380 problem uh you know the chinese have concentration camps for people who are different than them

01:13:19.540 this is the oldest story and it is the internal struggle of each individual as well as a society

01:13:27.080 um but the white people that i know we're all we're like this is not 1956 it's not 1968 it's not it's not

01:13:36.260 1988 we we're fine we want people to be equal this system is corrupted our founding system is so

01:13:46.720 corrupted that it is causing all kinds of problems we've never really you know lived up to the

01:13:52.980 declaration of independence but we all want to or most of us want to but we feel like we're just

01:13:59.600 absolutely under attack and this kind of message is going to make race relations much worse

01:14:06.240 how do we help how do what do we do without playing into the evil of marxism

01:14:14.480 yeah and and i'm i'm going to tell you i this is one of the things that really

01:14:21.920 bothers me about this i you know on social media since the 22nd of may but these messages have been

01:14:30.180 out there for years i've been talking about this for years um and i've really been frustrated

01:14:35.420 uh with this and with the way that the attacks come um i've been trying to talk about this from

01:14:42.860 the perspective of the big picture and unfortunately when you talk about it from the

01:14:47.340 big picture people tend to think oh you just don't have empathy you just don't have compassion

01:14:55.000 you just don't understand how bad it is um me who who grew up in drug-infested gang-infested

01:15:02.540 south central la born in 1969 grew up during the crack era grew up during the crack wars if you will

01:15:10.980 raised by a single teenage buddhist mother i wasn't raised in christianity never heard the gospel until

01:15:17.220 i got to the university and so for people to try to marginalize me because i don't understand i've

01:15:25.380 been pulled over by the cops i've been down on the sidewalk because i was in the wrong place at the

01:15:31.160 wrong time i know these kinds of things happen and yet i still say that these ideologies are poisonous

01:15:41.440 and they have to be confronted because these ideologies actually undermine our message as

01:15:48.720 christians i'm concerned about people i'm concerned about justice i'm concerned about souls and i know

01:15:57.360 where this stuff comes from i understand where it comes from and i am not willing to lay down my bible

01:16:04.580 and have anyone force me to agree with certain things simply because if i don't they will you know

01:16:13.140 they will somehow label me and call me names i couldn't care less about people labeling me and calling

01:16:18.780 me names i know who i am before god my conscience is clear and so i am i'm worried about this like you

01:16:28.620 i'm also an american who as an expat in a foreign country i've been to dozens of countries in the world

01:16:37.220 and there's two things that i know number one black people in america are the freest and most prosperous

01:16:43.120 black people in the world period bar none the second thing is this people outside of america

01:16:52.460 think that we are the most oppressed people in the world and people actually think that things like

01:17:02.760 george floyd are happening every day that they're not an anomaly but that they're commonplace and the

01:17:11.120 reputation as outside of our borders it sickens me and it saddens me but also the reputation that black

01:17:19.480 people have that somehow we are weak and impotent and that we can't do or be anything unless white

01:17:27.880 people do it for us which by the way is kind of racist i i believe that race i am a descendant

01:17:38.460 of some of the strongest people in the history of the world we overcame slavery and now we're bowing

01:17:47.020 and scraping like we need somebody to do something for us our individuality is at stake our self-pride

01:17:55.280 is at stake and our trust in god as the answer and solution to our problems is at stake and so for me

01:18:04.400 this is a this is a very complex issue but it's one that i'm very passionate about

01:18:09.220 i i will tell you that i am i am struck by the first time i went to israel and i honestly didn't

01:18:18.220 know much about the politics of the region and i was walking down the street in the old city and

01:18:24.520 there's a place where the palestinian section stops it's just one street one one place it's just

01:18:29.480 an archway that separates the jewish quarter from the palestinian quarter and you walk through it and

01:18:34.940 one is dirty and dingy and dark and the other is light and bright and clean and you are within five

01:18:41.500 feet of of both of those things and uh and it struck me that one side just says i don't care what

01:18:51.840 anybody else says i'm doing this and the other side is has been told for so long it's because of

01:18:58.960 them they're stopping you and i'm the only one that can help you and it stifles growth i think the

01:19:08.300 the black community has been lied to by the progressive movement uh really almost since booker t

01:19:15.860 washington uh died i mean they were lied to before that but when booker t died there was a there was a

01:19:22.100 shift from we can do this we don't need anybody we can do this and it's been this constant battle of

01:19:30.700 no no no you're being oppressed even now you don't even know it and you'll never get out unless

01:19:37.660 these people my dad used to say to me life isn't a series of things that happen to you glenn

01:19:43.300 life is what you do with those things and that's the most depressing thing about the message that's

01:19:50.980 coming out of black lives matter is you're oppressed you'll never be able to do anything about it

01:19:56.660 unless these people are gone well that that's there's no empowerment in that

01:20:02.660 yeah very little hope that's another thing that i'm hearing is that there's very little hope

01:20:13.120 and if our only hope is that you know certain people um begin to have empathy or begin to do

01:20:22.740 whatever it is that we think certain people need to do then we have no hope my hope is in god my hope

01:20:29.480 is in christ my hope is not in america um my hope is not in in in white people black people and my hope

01:20:36.880 is in god my hope is in christ and and what what worries me also is as an academic i mean i'm a dean

01:20:44.320 and um i'm sure you saw that anonymous email that went out from the the berkeley professor

01:20:53.200 this is an anonymous black professor yeah there are people in academia who are not free to investigate

01:21:04.960 issues and do honest academic work and so what we're left with is these simplistic answers right

01:21:15.120 um and so you have people who quote statistics on this side versus people who quote statistics on

01:21:20.480 that side right two and a half times more likely to be shot by police eighteen and a half times more

01:21:25.520 likely to you know shoot police officers whatever right and and in both instances we're giving these

01:21:30.720 simplistic answers where the truth is something that's complex and so if we have automatically said

01:21:39.760 anybody who picks the statistics from this column is evil and shouldn't be listened to then we've also

01:21:47.040 said that we are not going to honestly pursue complex answers to complex issues and what that means is

01:21:56.560 we're going to use white people but or use black people rather we're going to use their story we're

01:22:02.880 going to use their suffering in order to advance our cause glenn that's what's been happening for decades

01:22:10.880 and what has it gotten us and so here we are we have black mayors black police chiefs you know we you

01:22:18.480 know we have a president who who's a bi-ethnic president you know and you know all of these you know senators and

01:22:25.440 everything else right but by the testimony of black people themselves the feeling is that things are

01:22:34.720 actually not better the feeling is that the questions haven't been answered and so the frustration grows

01:22:43.760 and the hopelessness grows and the alienation grows and what i'm saying is we're looking for answers in the

01:22:51.840 wrong places let's let's the hard work yes sir yes sir i would love to have you back on again and uh

01:23:04.080 would love to bring you to the united states i uh your voice really needs to be amplified thank you so

01:23:10.080 much for being on with us we'll have you on again uh my best of luck i don't even know what time it is in

01:23:14.720 zambia what time is it uh in the afternoon is is it in the afternoon or in the afternoon almost

01:23:22.400 yeah yeah we're six hours well thank you so much for yeah thank you so much god bless you and uh stay

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01:29:42.820 holy cow i just saw an article uh about protesting and how you can protest and let your voice be heard

01:29:52.560 and in the same magazine was how to host a virtual fourth of july so don't leave the house if you want

01:30:01.420 celebrate the birthday of your country but you want to protest have at it gang

01:30:06.660 when i hear dr fauci come out and tell me anything i no longer believe any of them and maybe it's just

01:30:15.080 me i know covid is real i've done my own homework but i have this just overwhelming feeling because of

01:30:23.920 the way it's been handled uh they don't believe any of this stuff so what should we believe

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01:32:49.020 been following his uh his tweets he's his website the rational optimist.com and he joins us now are

01:32:57.420 you in london today still matt no glenn i'm in newcastle in northern england so uh not in london

01:33:04.500 but uh but up north well for the for the rest of you know america that's still london you know

01:33:11.480 fair enough yeah there's nothing yeah uh anyway uh so uh matt uh i want to talk to you a little bit

01:33:19.660 about as we start to go back to work we're starting to hear that this thing is heating up

01:33:24.920 and i think the worst thing that any of these officials could do is to uh tell people that it's

01:33:34.000 okay to go out in march and it was responsible after telling the rest of us screw your business

01:33:40.900 you may lose your job but you must stay in now if there is another uh wave of this and it is really

01:33:48.920 bad i think you're going to have a hard time convincing a lot of people to stay in they're

01:33:53.400 going to say screw you you didn't even believe it well i do think there has been an extraordinary

01:33:58.980 double standard expressed by a lot of people in the media and officials uh condoning protests but

01:34:06.560 uh still telling the rest of us that we have to stay home and mustn't uh go out and mix with people

01:34:13.520 you know in this country we're not allowed to go to the pub we're not allowed to uh you know have

01:34:18.620 have any fun at all but if we were to go as thousands did a couple of weekends ago to london

01:34:25.820 and march in really close proximity to each other and shout and scream which of course means you're

01:34:31.740 you know spreading a lot of droplets in the air um then nobody seems to object and i do you know a lot

01:34:37.880 of us feel that that that is a double standard it needs to be called out either those protests are

01:34:44.580 going to produce a very nasty second spike of the virus or we're going to find that it doesn't do

01:34:50.640 that and all the evidence so far suggests that it doesn't do that there's no sign of an uptick

01:34:54.400 certainly in in london of either cases or of reports of people starting to feel ill and calling

01:35:00.700 emergency hotlines and things like that and it's already two weeks down down the road so either it looks

01:35:07.540 like this has proved that we don't need so much social distancing anymore because we're into this

01:35:14.180 the season when this doesn't spread very well we've done a lot of the voluntary stuff which has made it

01:35:18.380 very difficult for the virus to spread and we can try and get our lives back to normal and get people's

01:35:23.500 jobs back and get people's you know cancer appointments back and all these things that we've stopped

01:35:28.920 matt the uh the america's golden calf of the spring was dr fauci and now fauci is saying he wouldn't go

01:35:39.780 to any of these trump rallies it's just too dangerous and now we also find out there may be no immunity

01:35:45.700 look what's happening in china these people should have been immune they're not immune and it's coming

01:35:50.580 for a second wave so which is it the is it is it dangerous or can you go out in these crowds and not

01:35:58.500 have any real lasting effects which which one and who do we believe of course the the true answer is

01:36:06.560 we still don't fully know this is a new virus and we are still learning all the time however we can say

01:36:12.340 some things with with great clarity and one of them is that young people are at very very very low risk

01:36:19.240 indeed um that if you're over 80 it is a serious problem it is a very dangerous virus if you've got

01:36:26.280 underlying conditions and those are the people we need to be really careful and keep away from crowds

01:36:31.580 and keep away from social contact with with people because young people can spread it but they're very

01:36:36.420 unlikely to suffer seriously from it um uh so that's a that's a really important point i think that we need

01:36:43.860 to understand and on the point of immunity there are lots of different uh things leading in different

01:36:48.920 directions it there isn't a huge amount of what you call b cell immunity that is to say antibodies in the

01:36:55.300 population but there's another kind of immunity called t cell immunity which is partially effective

01:37:01.420 and which seems to be very widespread in the population some reports have said 40 some reports

01:37:07.120 have said 70 of kids under the age of four have this kind of immunity and that's why they're not

01:37:13.040 catching the disease now why have they got this kind of immunity because there are four other

01:37:18.240 coronaviruses that we catch pretty well every winter um they're called the common cold they're one of the

01:37:24.520 causes of the common cold and they have given us a degree of immunity to coronaviruses and once you

01:37:31.300 factor in that that may be a big chunk of the population is already partly immune then it turns out that

01:37:37.740 the virus will die back of its own accord particularly in summer with only voluntary measures and you won't

01:37:44.920 need uh these uh drastic compulsory lockdowns but as i say we don't know that for sure that's the way it's

01:37:52.340 looking at the moment it does seem uh matt that you know there the seasonal aspect of it can be both

01:37:59.480 encouraging and discouraging like we are seeing some in the united states where there have been some

01:38:04.320 states where we're seeing a little bit of a bounce back but it does seem to be at least some seasonal

01:38:08.780 effect however does that signify we're in for it in a in a big way going forward when we get to fall

01:38:15.600 i think that is a concern because um all these respiratory viruses are seasonal flu is seasonal

01:38:23.580 colds are seasonal and we don't really know why um i mean it's just quite interesting to to talk

01:38:29.780 briefly about one of those coronaviruses that cause colds it's called oc43 it's the commonest of the

01:38:35.040 common cold coronaviruses it's highly seasonal you only get it in winter on the whole now genomic

01:38:41.220 evidence genetic evidence suggests that that first entered the human population around 1890

01:38:46.900 well it turns out there was a very bad epidemic of what was so-called russian flu in 1889 to 90

01:38:53.160 and it sounds very like what we had today it hit old people harder than young people

01:38:57.900 it hit men harder than women so it could be that that was the first entry of that virus into the

01:39:04.320 population and it killed a million people uh and it spread all around the world but then it became

01:39:09.920 much more harmless and it's so harmless now that you and i have probably had it several times

01:39:14.400 we get partial immunity to it but in a few years later you can get it again and you just call it a

01:39:19.240 a cold um so that holds out hope in the long run that this virus will also turn harmless and the reason

01:39:26.100 that happens with respiratory viruses not necessarily with other kinds of viruses uh is because the virus

01:39:32.100 wants you out there protesting and coughing and having fun and talking to people because that way it can

01:39:38.660 spread more easily if you go to bed and lie still for a week and don't see anybody then that's no good

01:39:43.900 to the virus the virus needs another um destination so matt um have we've is there a definitive answer yet on

01:39:54.760 where this came from i just talked to somebody who said uh no no no the researchers have found that

01:40:02.820 uh china uh put this bat virus i think into a mouse or something and it's documented over in china with

01:40:13.220 video they talked about doing it they weren't weaponizing it they were just experimenting um and

01:40:18.660 he said because of that and he had all the scientific jargon because of that it's a it's a uh a virus that

01:40:27.080 was released and doesn't have any real staying power to it and it's going to get weaker and weaker

01:40:32.820 have you looked into that have you heard that i have looked into this and i don't know the answer

01:40:39.180 any more than anybody else we are still very uncertain here and i don't know what what what happened

01:40:44.420 but there are several key things that we now do know the first is that it did not jump from an animal

01:40:51.600 to a human being in that seafood market in wuhan we know that for two reasons one because the animals

01:40:58.000 in the seafood market turn out to be uh to test negative there was no animal they could find that

01:41:04.220 tested positive the chinese only announced that very recently even though they did the tests early

01:41:08.800 in january it would have been helpful if they'd let us know a bit sooner um uh secondly um we know that

01:41:15.300 it was already very well adapted to human beings in the people who caught it in the market

01:41:21.080 so what this tells us is that the market was a super spreader event it was a person spreading it

01:41:26.560 in the market not an animal now that does make it less likely that we need to well you know that that

01:41:33.580 that means that we need to look for other sources of where it came from and with respect to the labs

01:41:40.000 there are several questions we need to answer if we are to rule out the possibility that it's a lab leak

01:41:46.420 wuhan is one of the centers of coronavirus research in the world one of the two

01:41:51.460 top centers for coronavirus research in the world they were working on coronaviruses they were combining

01:41:57.440 parts of one virus with another making so-called chimeric viruses they handled the uh sample taken

01:42:04.600 from a mineshaft in 2013 that is the closest bat sample to the one we have for some reason they

01:42:10.240 changed the name of that sample when they announced it in in january and didn't say that it was from a

01:42:16.240 mineshaft we're a little unsure about why that is but we know that three miners died in that mineshaft

01:42:21.860 from a pneumonia-like illness that turned out to be a coronavirus so presumably their lungs were

01:42:26.720 analyzed too we need to know what what that was um we know that when they do these experiments in

01:42:33.220 wuhan to make combined viruses they take the so-called receptor binding domain from one virus and add it to

01:42:39.680 the backbone of another and that's what this virus looks like it looks like it's got a pangolin part for

01:42:44.680 one part and a bad part for another we know they can do that without leaving a trace it used to be

01:42:50.440 argued until a few weeks ago um that if they had done that they would very clearly leave a signature

01:42:55.740 a sort of restriction enzyme signature to give it its proper name um we know that they can do it

01:43:02.700 without doing that so there's a whole bunch of things that we know make it possible for this to

01:43:07.240 have been made deliberately in the lab with a view to understanding its virulence not with a view to

01:43:12.600 making a bioweapon and that it's possible that it therefore leaked now to rule that out the chinese

01:43:18.140 authorities need to bring forward all the researchers involved in that program and give us a complete and

01:43:24.040 open account of exactly what experiments they did and why they think it did not leak and then we can

01:43:29.740 be reassured it's in their interest to do that how do you think history is going to look back at the

01:43:37.100 response of this this is the first time in human history that we have shut everything down i mean

01:43:42.840 they they shut things down in london for the you know london plague but not like this um uh this is

01:43:50.760 really kind of a test run of does this work can we even do it how is this going to be viewed in

01:43:57.820 history as a a good thing or you know the first in the way we handled viruses how is this going to be

01:44:05.800 remembered i think this is going to be remembered as a pretty big disastrous series of policy mistakes

01:44:12.600 we reacted too slowly at the start we overreacted in the middle we relied too much on scientific models

01:44:18.860 which were flawed in their forecasting um and as you say we used thoroughly illiberal and compulsory

01:44:26.880 means to shut down the whole of society doing huge economic damage without um and then the worst

01:44:32.580 mistake of all um we let it run rampant through the care home system um both in my country and in

01:44:38.460 new york state there have been cases where um patients were sent from hospitals to care homes

01:44:44.420 without being tested for the virus that caused an epidemic in the care homes so so there's a whole

01:44:50.460 series of mistakes that i think i'm afraid are pretty disastrous and we're going to have to to to learn

01:44:56.080 very carefully um from this not to behave that way in future we ought to have been able to handle this

01:45:02.400 with a uh with a voluntary restrictions that saved old people who were most at risk from getting close

01:45:10.620 to the virus but didn't interfere with young people going about their business and earning their living

01:45:15.660 and that i think is one of the things we've got to do in my book called how innovation works i i i write

01:45:21.140 about vaccines i write about drugs i write about all these innovations and i think the other lesson

01:45:25.740 we have to learn uh is that we didn't do enough innovation in vaccine development and other things

01:45:30.820 before this uh pandemic came along because we knew it was possible i'm so afraid that when we get past

01:45:36.620 this and the same thing is going to happen uh is going to happen again we're just going to lose

01:45:40.920 interest in it once we get past it and and then no one's going to follow up go ahead glenn yeah

01:45:45.740 um how innovation works is uh stew is i mean matt he worships a small idol of you uh uh you really

01:45:56.480 changed his life and i've read uh your book how innovation works it's really really really good

01:46:02.160 and everybody should read it uh we appreciate you being on with us thank you so much matt ridley

01:46:06.680 the rational optimist rationaloptimist.com and the name of his book is how innovation works

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01:48:03.020 did you see the uh the story in the wall street journal stew about uh the praise for andrew cuomo and

01:48:22.420 who praised him what they said and how wrong they were uh no but if you praise andrew cuomo we know

01:48:28.860 you were wrong and now i can't separate the two now i look at andrew cuomo and i just see chris

01:48:37.240 yeah well that's why we uh launched andrew cuomo was awful dot com uh just to make sure that if you

01:48:43.500 need to demonstrate how much you know andrew cuomo was awful you can do that we were trying to get

01:48:48.440 chris cuomo is worse t-shirts as well uh so you could have like what you could be wearing andrew

01:48:53.120 cuomo was awful t-shirt and then the person next to you could be rearing chris cuomo is worse

01:48:57.820 um but we there's been printing issues so we haven't been able to get those made up yet

01:49:01.700 have you thought about um even fredo is ashamed of him a third one i like it

01:49:08.820 even fredo is embarrassed by by chris uh um the uh wall street journal investigation uncovered

01:49:19.000 major government missteps in new york with andrew cuomo improper patient transfers some patients were

01:49:26.400 too sick to have been transferred uh between hospitals squabbling between cuomo and de blasio

01:49:31.760 administrations contributed to this uncoordinated effort insufficient isolation protocols inadequate

01:49:37.920 staff planning the mixed message from the state and the city government over reliance on federal

01:49:44.640 government sources for key equipment uh procurement planning gaps uh and you know that that leaves

01:49:54.000 out the nursing home slaughter centers that uh that cuomo had uh built yep and then then they look in and

01:50:02.520 they tried to compare it to what the media was saying to him and they said um many of leadership

01:50:09.800 failures of cuomo were not the focus of the media's discussion rather amy roerbach from abc news

01:50:17.500 concentrated on the important things such as the governor's reaction to be being sexualized by lonely

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01:52:10.200 this is the glenn beck program from the standing rock ranch

01:52:38.380 we're so glad that you have tuned in today last night i did a uh a special on the most

01:52:45.260 dangerous cult in america and it is this this marxist cult that is out now part of this cancel

01:52:52.440 culture and uh it doesn't matter what you say you you know you're a racist whether you like it or not

01:52:58.940 and all of these companies that are playing right into this and um firing people apologizing for things

01:53:06.600 that you know they may not have ever done uh and i think i think people are starting to catch on

01:53:18.160 that it could happen to them there's a story of a of a uh uh principal up in vermont that is

01:53:25.480 it's just the most remarkable story she said i firmly believe that uh in black lives that black lives

01:53:32.800 matter but i don't agree with the coercive measures taken to get this point across

01:53:37.740 some of which are falsified in an attempt to prove a point while i want to get behind blm i don't think

01:53:45.040 that the people should be made to feel that they have to choose black race over human race while i

01:53:50.540 understand the urgency to feel compelled to advocate for black lives what about our fellow law enforcement

01:53:55.680 officials what about all the others who advocate we advocate for and demand equity for all just

01:54:01.900 because i walk around uh just because i don't walk around with a blm sign doesn't mean that i'm not

01:54:07.920 a racist or that i am a racist well she's been suspended what did she say wrong

01:54:15.680 now as bad as this is imagine being fired for doing literally nothing and then having the people who

01:54:29.920 claimed you were doing something wrong recant and say you know what no i had it wrong

01:54:35.440 i don't think it was a racist thing and your employer won't hire you back

01:54:41.760 this is what's happening to a california man who was fired from his job because someone he was on

01:54:49.700 the road someone took a picture of his hand outside of his outside of his truck and he was cracking

01:54:57.060 his knuckles that's what he said but they said he was forming the okay sign which is alleged white power

01:55:05.400 are you kidding me do you not have anything else to do with your life

01:55:09.700 so his name is emmanuel cafferty he was fired from his position at san diego gas and electric

01:55:16.100 um because the twitter user posted this which has now been deleted

01:55:21.600 said that he was a san diego gas and electric employee

01:55:25.900 and he was making the white power symbol near a black lives rally

01:55:31.040 well he's mexican american he said i just was cracking my knuckles

01:55:37.520 and he's been charged tried now and convicted on social media uh and he lost his job

01:55:44.540 when the other person said i got it wrong san diego gas and electric didn't care

01:55:50.880 he's with us now in his first uh interview uh his name is emmanuel cafferty a mexican-american

01:55:59.060 welcome to the program emmanuel how are you

01:56:00.800 well other than being unemployed i'm fine

01:56:05.300 so when our producers reached out to you um you said you just want your you just want your job back

01:56:14.260 uh and then we reached out to uh you know san diego gas and electric

01:56:20.740 and they said uh our employees are held to a high standard expected to live up to our values every

01:56:28.020 day whether in interactions with fellow employees of the public we conducted a good faith and thorough

01:56:32.700 investigation that included gathering relevant information and multiple interviews and took

01:56:37.680 action in line with those values while we're not able to reveal the full circumstances surrounding

01:56:42.860 our investigation mr cafferty separation from the company we stand by our decision and will not be

01:56:48.000 commenting any further so basically what they're saying is they know you're a racist but they can't tell

01:56:54.780 anybody why you're a racist maybe or they're just saying they don't want to admit they made mistakes

01:57:03.600 so um and you do you still want to work with those people yeah i do i i i thought i was the best

01:57:17.460 position i could be i worked three and a half years to get that position and the day i was hired by them

01:57:24.760 was one of my proudest days and to lose it in this fashion it's it's like it's baking and yeah i want to

01:57:37.020 work i still want to work there and you say that you have special skills that your job that you did what

01:57:44.780 you trained for is very specialized and so there are not a lot of these jobs around

01:57:49.300 correct

01:57:50.880 what what is it you do

01:57:54.160 underground utility locating

01:57:57.560 so how and how do you do that do you have to crawl through the sewers or are you just

01:58:04.980 no no you use a scope of some sort

01:58:07.040 anytime someone wants to dig they need to know what's underground right

01:58:11.300 there's a gas line there there's a power line there

01:58:14.140 phone lines whatever

01:58:16.140 okay you know we have special tools that can

01:58:19.440 show where they're at we'll paint it on the ground

01:58:21.920 and

01:58:22.580 you know everyone can see where it's at

01:58:25.740 now you have three daughters

01:58:28.500 uh and a grandson that lives with you

01:58:32.020 uh and you were fired without any severance

01:58:35.360 correct that was just it

01:58:37.860 yeah

01:58:39.560 how are you paying for things

01:58:43.220 uh it's only been a couple weeks so far

01:58:47.540 so you know had a little bit of savings

01:58:49.700 but uh it's gonna be tough here coming up especially in the uh

01:58:54.500 covid climate we're living in

01:58:56.300 well not only that emmanuel but your former company has issued a statement that said that

01:59:01.360 they know you are a racist they just can't tell anybody why

01:59:04.000 i mean i i don't know how you're going to find a job

01:59:07.240 with a with your former company saying that

01:59:10.440 i mean

01:59:11.940 yeah do you have a clan have you ever been a member of the clan

01:59:15.580 are you do you know things that the average person doesn't know because

01:59:20.200 i honestly

01:59:21.160 i would look at that statement and say

01:59:23.980 i'm blackballed forever

01:59:25.940 yeah luckily when you look at my face

01:59:30.020 and you see that i'm mexican american

01:59:32.940 it's not going to be the first thing to come up to your mind that i might be a clan member

01:59:37.560 so you started a petition on change.org

01:59:44.780 correct

01:59:46.260 uh to to try to convince your company to hire you back instead of

01:59:50.900 a fundraising petition right this is

01:59:54.660 you're saying yeah well

01:59:57.160 help me

01:59:57.900 raise enough voices to say hire me back

02:00:00.860 correct

02:00:02.400 there is now a go fund me

02:00:07.340 uh account

02:00:08.520 with my name

02:00:10.340 uh you know at the go fund me

02:00:13.120 site

02:00:14.360 for

02:00:15.280 legal fees

02:00:17.140 in case

02:00:19.060 because i'm i'm i'm not going to take this standing

02:00:21.380 you know i'm not going to sit down taking this

02:00:23.260 this is it's just

02:00:24.020 completely unfair

02:00:25.540 if it can happen to me it can happen to somebody else

02:00:27.220 so i'm going to go as far as i can

02:00:29.240 to make as much noise as i can

02:00:31.520 to uh

02:00:32.500 kind of right this wrong

02:00:34.520 so are you going for possibly a wrongful termination lawsuit or

02:00:41.040 sue the guy that sicked the mob on you for civil damages

02:00:44.460 or do you even know who it was that sicked the mob on you

02:00:48.440 we kind of figured it out we kind of got a name

02:00:51.780 he's since removed his account

02:00:54.680 which is even more maddening

02:00:57.780 he's even

02:00:58.760 gave a statement to the

02:01:00.920 local media

02:01:02.860 the news

02:01:03.760 and

02:01:04.300 basically recanted everything he charged me of doing

02:01:08.220 and uh

02:01:10.560 well

02:01:11.040 yeah

02:01:11.760 all he did is all he did is said you

02:01:14.140 he said you were making the white supremacist

02:01:17.520 uh

02:01:18.160 uh

02:01:19.260 symbol

02:01:19.640 the okay sign

02:01:21.160 and how far away were you when

02:01:23.380 when that picture was taken

02:01:24.760 do you even know

02:01:25.580 from the black lives matter

02:01:27.100 rally

02:01:27.780 no

02:01:28.480 i i do know it's over a mile

02:01:30.360 so you were sending a message

02:01:35.020 to protesters that were a mile away

02:01:38.100 is that what they're alleging

02:01:39.820 well

02:01:40.860 no

02:01:41.620 they just took his word for it

02:01:44.140 uh

02:01:45.120 he he he framed

02:01:46.580 a picture

02:01:47.780 with his captions

02:01:49.740 with his

02:01:50.700 story of the

02:01:52.220 his version of the story

02:01:53.620 and they

02:01:55.000 for whatever reason

02:01:56.260 either they

02:01:57.820 believed his story

02:01:59.580 more than mine

02:02:00.380 or they just didn't care

02:02:01.820 or

02:02:02.300 just because it was

02:02:03.380 that week

02:02:04.160 you know

02:02:04.880 the week with all the

02:02:06.520 racial uprising

02:02:07.560 he didn't want to deal with it

02:02:10.420 he believed him more than me

02:02:12.060 i don't know

02:02:12.640 but

02:02:13.620 his version of it

02:02:15.500 was full of lies

02:02:16.420 the way he put it on twitter

02:02:18.600 was just

02:02:19.240 full of lies

02:02:20.200 and

02:02:20.600 that's what happened

02:02:23.080 and

02:02:23.400 and i'm dealing with the repercussions

02:02:26.240 we're talking to emmanuel cafferti who is fired for

02:02:29.140 allegedly giving a white supremacist signal signal as he was driving past a rally

02:02:34.380 emmanuel as i look at this

02:02:36.200 what i see

02:02:37.320 a mile

02:02:37.920 a mile past the rally

02:02:40.100 a mile past the rally

02:02:41.100 uh

02:02:41.640 what i what i look at when i look at this i see

02:02:43.480 um

02:02:44.160 a situation where

02:02:45.180 a lot of people are really stupid on social media

02:02:47.920 and a lot of people allege things that are false on social media

02:02:51.020 and a lot of people do really stupid things on social media

02:02:53.520 And while the person who alleged this is seemingly clearly in the wrong here, it's a totally different standard to be held by an employer.

02:03:02.680 They seem to me to be the one who is really at fault here and have taken.

02:03:07.800 I mean, they've smeared your name.

02:03:09.920 They've smeared your reputation.

02:03:11.660 They've taken your job.

02:03:14.080 They really are the ones who are in a way confirming this ridiculous allegation against you.

02:03:19.860 To me, they seem to be the ones who are most at fault here.

02:03:24.480 Is that how you see it as well?

02:03:26.760 No, no, I don't.

02:03:28.440 I see what this guy did.

02:03:30.740 He's like a real-life troll.

02:03:32.820 He put me and the company in a tough position.

02:03:38.340 One, they have to make a decision whether, you know, a company like that, they're going to just say we have no patience for racism.

02:03:48.060 They're going to have to, you know, make a big, bold statement.

02:03:51.120 And unfortunately for me, I ended up being the sacrificial lamb for that.

02:03:55.260 But had this guy just stayed in his own lane, had this guy not went out of his way to take a picture.

02:04:02.780 First of all, I'm not even making a white supremacist gesture in the picture he takes.

02:04:07.380 Right.

02:04:07.500 And if he doesn't put that online, tagging my opinion, tagging every news outlet in the city, none of this will happen.

02:04:18.480 The actions of this one troll is the reason why I don't have a job today.

02:04:23.120 It's a very adult way of handling it.

02:04:25.420 I don't know that I would have the same restraint, but I would say it does give the company a real out here and a possibility to make this right where they can rehire you and make this into a situation where, you know, social media got out of control.

02:04:40.240 They made a wrong decision and can correct it.

02:04:41.920 They still have a window here.

02:04:43.080 It seems like you're giving them a manual and they should definitely take it.

02:04:46.360 And it's more than kind.

02:04:48.140 I personally would be living off of the profits of a litigation suit that would never go to court because they would settle for big dollars because unless they have something on you that they really can't say, they've just said, we fired you.

02:05:04.320 Yeah.

02:05:04.940 And well, that might not be right.

02:05:06.540 We did our investigation and homework.

02:05:08.600 And this guy, man, is he a racist?

02:05:11.620 And I think you're going to have a hard time finding a job after that.

02:05:15.260 Yeah, yeah.

02:05:17.140 They could say that.

02:05:18.060 They could say that.

02:05:19.460 My interaction with him at all is against their public image, and that's why I'm fired.

02:05:27.340 Well, I wish you the best of luck, Emmanuel.

02:05:29.540 I'm sorry this happened to you or anybody, but I appreciate it.

02:05:33.940 And like Stu said, you're being much more, I guess, Christ-like than I would be.

02:05:40.580 But the best of luck.

02:05:41.920 And you can go to change.org or to what's the other one?

02:05:46.720 GoFundMe.

02:05:47.180 That are raising money?

02:05:48.140 Yeah.

02:05:49.340 GoFundMe.

02:05:50.140 His name is Emmanuel Cafferty.

02:05:52.220 Emmanuel Cafferty.

02:05:53.620 Thank you so much, Emmanuel.

02:05:54.720 I appreciate it.

02:05:55.580 God bless.

02:05:59.380 Does anybody else think that that's just bowing down to this company?

02:06:02.620 I mean, these companies are bowing down to everybody.

02:06:05.640 If you don't teach these companies a lesson, they're not going to stop.

02:06:07.920 They'll throw anybody under the bus.

02:06:09.420 Yeah.

02:06:09.680 Throw anybody under the bus.

02:06:11.040 It's an interesting approach there because it seems like he really does want the job

02:06:14.440 back.

02:06:14.960 And I certainly would not want to come back to a company that treated me that way.

02:06:18.900 But I think he's looking at this and saying, look, this person made a false accusation.

02:06:23.660 I can understand why companies get pressured into these situations, especially in this current

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02:06:29.420 So he's given them another chance.

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The Glenn Beck Program - June 18, 2020

The Social Justice Lie ｜ Guests： Dr. Voddie Baucham & Matt Ridley ｜ 6⧸18⧸20

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