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00:02:32.620 A big debate last night.

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00:04:05.840 So, Stu, what did you think of the debate last night?

00:04:09.060 It was a show.

00:04:11.900 It was interesting.

00:04:13.680 Apparently, the only person that anyone ever talks about is Vivek Ramaswamy, which is fascinating.

00:04:20.200 I mean, he is, what, fourth of the polls?

00:04:23.680 Ish.

00:04:24.440 Fourth-ish in the polls.

00:04:26.400 And he is the guy.

00:04:27.520 All the attention goes to him.

00:04:29.160 Every conversation, every battle he's involved in.

00:04:32.740 I mean, it really is remarkable.

00:04:34.720 A guy who, you know, we've had on the show and, you know, multiple times.

00:04:39.440 You've had on this show.

00:04:40.200 Yeah.

00:04:40.440 Had on this show.

00:04:41.160 Had on Studios America.

00:04:42.140 Never had him on Pac-Rae Unleashed.

00:04:42.900 Never had him on Pac-Rae Unleashed.

00:04:45.360 No.

00:04:46.360 Asked him.

00:04:47.300 Asked him multiple times.

00:04:48.120 I feel like I've heard you ask him.

00:04:49.400 Multiple, multiple, multiple times.

00:04:50.860 Yeah.

00:04:51.000 Many, many times.

00:04:52.140 And he won't.

00:04:52.680 To the point where we're just like, okay, never mind.

00:04:55.760 Really?

00:04:56.260 And as soon as we said, okay, never mind, he's like, hey, we can be on the show tomorrow.

00:04:59.720 Right.

00:05:00.140 Nah, I'm sorry.

00:05:01.140 We're all booked up now.

00:05:01.940 You've hit the never mind moment.

00:05:02.220 Yeah.

00:05:02.500 We hit the, yeah, and then now there's no turning back.

00:05:05.320 So.

00:05:05.860 That's understandable.

00:05:06.720 We shan't have him on the show.

00:05:08.820 But he's been on this one multiple times, right?

00:05:11.260 Before he was running for president.

00:05:12.720 Yeah.

00:05:12.880 He came on a bunch of times.

00:05:13.920 He's come on since as well.

00:05:15.400 Mm-hmm.

00:05:15.680 Same thing with Studios America.

00:05:17.680 He's a good.

00:05:18.680 You're kind of rubbing that in a little bit, aren't you?

00:05:20.320 He was also on a, I think he was on a show.

00:05:23.020 It wasn't really a show.

00:05:23.940 It was the front window of a pet store where he talked to mostly dogs and cats, but there

00:05:30.200 was one human being there.

00:05:31.900 But.

00:05:32.120 Just really.

00:05:32.960 But I think there was a webcam in that shop.

00:05:36.480 It was disconnected, though.

00:05:37.480 It was not plugged in.

00:05:38.460 Oh, it was?

00:05:38.500 Okay.

00:05:38.840 But any place he can find an audience that is of any value, he'll go to.

00:05:42.080 Right.

00:05:42.200 That is his policy.

00:05:43.620 Right.

00:05:44.260 But no.

00:05:45.880 But he hasn't been able to make it to Pat Grandleashed quite yet.

00:05:47.860 He's busy.

00:05:49.080 You know, he's busy.

00:05:49.740 I don't know.

00:05:50.020 I will say, I have.

00:05:51.240 But Vivek Ramaswamy is something very unique in, I think, all my time watching presidential

00:05:59.000 debates.

00:05:59.620 I think I know what you're going to say.

00:06:01.040 Really?

00:06:01.680 He's never said, uh.

00:06:03.040 Well, that's very much true.

00:06:04.800 He's never said, uh.

00:06:06.680 He does.

00:06:07.560 He's the most well-spoken person I've ever seen.

00:06:11.960 Yeah.

00:06:12.220 I think the chat GPT thing, which was a criticism of his, that was popularized on the internet

00:06:18.420 and then Chris Christie tried to roll out multiple weeks later during one of the debates.

00:06:22.360 Yeah.

00:06:23.880 Is kind of interesting.

00:06:26.000 It's fascinating.

00:06:26.840 I asked my wife last night.

00:06:28.560 She was watching the debate.

00:06:29.840 And, you know, she follows politics, but not live or die every second of her life, thank

00:06:33.540 God.

00:06:34.360 And she likes Ramaswamy.

00:06:37.420 And she.

00:06:37.620 I like him, too.

00:06:38.480 I said to him.

00:06:39.520 And I do, too.

00:06:40.100 Uh, we've had him on a million times, and I asked, uh.

00:06:43.480 Have you ever had him on Studios America, though?

00:06:46.340 Have you had him?

00:06:46.740 Yeah, actually, you know, he was on Studios America, and then we did another separate

00:06:50.540 show just for the people in the office.

00:06:52.980 Really?

00:06:53.280 Yeah, he came in, flew in for it.

00:06:54.500 What?

00:06:54.960 But.

00:06:56.760 Couldn't quite make it to Studios America.

00:06:58.440 In fact, we did it.

00:06:59.120 It's very interesting.

00:06:59.760 We did it in the morning when your show airs.

00:07:03.320 Really?

00:07:03.800 Yeah.

00:07:04.300 He was even willing to get up that time of day.

00:07:06.200 Yeah, he flew in extra early just to come on.

00:07:08.220 That's interesting.

00:07:08.780 Just to talk to people in the office.

00:07:11.100 Hmm.

00:07:11.660 Must have been a slow day for him.

00:07:13.640 Yeah.

00:07:13.880 And so he just came, because he didn't have time to come on my show when we asked him.

00:07:18.160 Okay.

00:07:18.540 Well, that's.

00:07:19.020 Multiple.

00:07:19.560 That happens.

00:07:19.860 Multiple times.

00:07:20.980 That happens.

00:07:21.460 He had other things planned.

00:07:22.820 Yeah.

00:07:23.160 Well, the pet show for one time.

00:07:25.500 The pet show was a good show.

00:07:26.580 Yeah.

00:07:26.880 I asked my wife, does it bother you at all that he doesn't say, um, or, like, hesitate

00:07:32.320 at all?

00:07:33.240 And she said no.

00:07:35.060 And she's like, he's just very well-spoken.

00:07:36.480 He knows where he's going with every answer.

00:07:37.960 He's very smart.

00:07:38.760 It's incredible.

00:07:39.640 And he is a smart guy.

00:07:40.640 This idea that he's dumb.

00:07:41.560 We went to Harvard and Yale.

00:07:43.160 Yeah.

00:07:43.360 Yeah.

00:07:43.580 He's a smart guy.

00:07:44.620 There's this, like, um, new, quote-unquote smart Republican view that this guy's just

00:07:51.900 dumb.

00:07:52.300 And that's just not true.

00:07:53.580 The guy is dumb.

00:07:55.060 He ran, he ran, run companies.

00:07:57.320 He's a successful entrepreneur.

00:07:58.980 He's a multi-multi-millionaire.

00:08:00.460 He's not dumb.

00:08:01.480 He, you know, the, the more apt criticism of him might be that he's not necessarily ready

00:08:07.700 for this yet.

00:08:08.420 As a, as, as I'm talking about president of the United States, he's done a good job running

00:08:12.360 for president at times.

00:08:13.440 But like my impression of him last night, I, I'm, well, he's 38.

00:08:17.540 He's 38.

00:08:18.460 He's very, he was born the year I got married.

00:08:21.220 Really?

00:08:21.760 Yeah.

00:08:22.100 Wow.

00:08:22.680 Yeah.

00:08:23.000 I mean, that's fascinating, but like, look, he's, he's got a, a bold, uh, voice.

00:08:28.780 He is someone that I think has value to the conservative movement, but like watching him last night,

00:08:33.560 I feel like each debate, he's trying a completely new philosophy of debates.

00:08:37.940 Like the, like he's like game one, he's running the West coast offense game two, he's in the

00:08:44.720 wishbone game three.

00:08:46.160 It's run and shoot.

00:08:47.020 It's like, I don't know what's happening.

00:08:48.380 Like he's been three completely different people in these debates.

00:08:52.180 He's trying to gain traction and he's trying different methods to do that.

00:08:55.980 And, and last night, I think his theory was, I'm going to be super aggressive.

00:08:59.840 Yeah.

00:09:00.200 And so he went after everybody.

00:09:01.640 The first debate was, I'm going to get noticed.

00:09:03.560 I'm going to be super eager.

00:09:04.540 I'm going to make sure I'm not swallowed up in case people don't know who I am.

00:09:07.940 Okay.

00:09:08.640 Number two was people thought I was a little bit aggressive last time.

00:09:12.220 I'm going to be super, uh, nice and, and defer to the other candidates and compliment them

00:09:18.640 constantly.

00:09:19.300 And that didn't work.

00:09:19.840 So he tried that.

00:09:20.700 This one was like, I'm just going to start swearing at people.

00:09:23.440 I think that was, maybe the debate was a half an hour longer stuff.

00:09:27.280 I'm going to, I'm going to punch somebody in the face.

00:09:30.100 Yeah.

00:09:30.660 He started out with the attack on the media, which was, which, which, wow.

00:09:36.440 This is the perfect example of the weirdness of, of Vivek at some level in these moments.

00:09:42.800 Again, I don't, I have no problem with the guy, but like in these moments, that attack

00:09:47.860 would have been massively huge for him if it was timed right.

00:09:54.380 Right.

00:09:54.940 But it wasn't, it was awkward.

00:09:56.980 This woman he attacked who I, you know, I have no, no patience for her politics or her

00:10:03.440 news abilities.

00:10:05.120 Um, I don't even know her name, but she's an MSNBC.

00:10:07.240 Kristen Welker.

00:10:07.720 Kristen Welker.

00:10:08.500 Mm-hmm.

00:10:08.880 It was so, would connect so deeply with the, uh, conservative public, but she, she hadn't

00:10:16.080 said anything yet.

00:10:17.600 Right.

00:10:17.860 It was like he had so obviously planned this moment weeks in advance.

00:10:23.520 That's the thing.

00:10:24.100 He's too, he's almost too prepared.

00:10:26.060 Yeah.

00:10:26.200 It's too prepared.

00:10:27.320 It feels stilted.

00:10:29.020 It's stilted.

00:10:29.800 Exactly.

00:10:30.060 That's a great point.

00:10:31.020 It's exactly how it feels.

00:10:32.260 And, and it, I think the same thing happened with the, with the heels comment where he goes,

00:10:37.080 Oh, it's Dick Cheney and three inch heels.

00:10:38.580 And there's two of them on stage today.

00:10:40.680 Like that's just the whole bogus attack on DeSantis is nonsense anyway.

00:10:45.700 It's stupid.

00:10:46.040 I don't care if he wears stilts on stage.

00:10:48.800 So what?

00:10:49.520 Is he a good governor?

00:10:49.960 Is he a good president?

00:10:50.980 He's a great governor.

00:10:51.400 Can he be a good president?

00:10:52.740 I think so, but I don't know for sure.

00:10:55.180 But it's like, you know, a guy who's written his, what he believes is his standup comedy

00:10:59.920 routine six months in advance is going to go out and promote it.

00:11:02.500 You know, we've, we've done, and I know you've done a million of these, especially going back

00:11:05.620 to your morning radio days, you have, there's two different types of standup comedians that

00:11:11.040 come on shows.

00:11:12.400 Some who are just legitimately funny.

00:11:14.740 You get in a conversation with them.

00:11:17.000 They roll with it.

00:11:17.820 They blast out jokes throughout the entire thing.

00:11:20.420 It's incredible.

00:11:21.400 Yeah.

00:11:21.420 And then the type that have four pieces of material that they do on morning shows and

00:11:27.300 your job is supposedly to set them up to get to these jokes that they've already done 10

00:11:31.920 million times.

00:11:32.640 It's always terrible.

00:11:33.740 And there's a point with Ramaswamy that that's what it feels like.

00:11:36.600 Like he's got seven buttons that he can press at any time.

00:11:41.280 He's already practiced them so much.

00:11:43.200 And for a guy that is that smart and can talk about anything, I don't know that that's the

00:11:48.240 right approach for him.

00:11:49.080 But again, we'll probably try a totally new one next debate.

00:11:52.180 So we can just wait and see which next time he's going to be in the spread and we'll try

00:11:56.760 it.

00:11:56.940 We'll see what happens then.

00:11:57.980 Yeah.

00:11:58.520 Yeah.

00:11:58.920 I, but again, here is a guy who is in fourth place in the polls and we spent the first 15

00:12:04.360 minutes talking about him.

00:12:05.760 So it's true.

00:12:06.420 What's bizarre about it is he's done such a good job in getting people to, uh, to talk

00:12:12.320 about him.

00:12:12.820 But in a way he's almost seemingly disproving the all publicity is good publicity thing because

00:12:18.320 he's not moving his polls.

00:12:20.300 Someone, we did a post coverage last night.

00:12:22.860 What does he have?

00:12:23.260 Five percent?

00:12:23.840 We have four or five percent.

00:12:24.960 Yeah.

00:12:25.160 We were talking last night on the, um, post game coverage, uh, on youtube.com slash studios

00:12:30.040 America, where we've been going live before and after most of these debates.

00:12:33.300 And we'll be doing this throughout the election season.

00:12:34.940 So go and subscribe, please.

00:12:36.880 Um, but one person brought this up and, and, and they said, you know, look, part of the

00:12:41.760 reason why if they can't move the polls is all of his voters are currently voting for

00:12:46.720 Donald Trump and they're not going to move off of Trump unless Trump, you know, drops

00:12:53.680 out, gets arrested and goes to prison and can't run, whatever the reason is.

00:12:58.060 And at that point, he's going to be the Trump voters, number one choice.

00:13:04.100 So maybe there is some strategy here with Vivek.

00:13:07.600 I'm just going to go for that Trump vote.

00:13:10.080 If the Trump thing falls apart and if you can see a scenario and I don't know, what do

00:13:15.700 you think about this?

00:13:17.120 If Trump, let's say Trump, um, had some, God forbid, some health problem and decided he

00:13:22.000 himself couldn't run and came out with a full throated endorsement of Vivek Ramaswamy,

00:13:27.920 would Ramaswamy shoot to the lead to the primary?

00:13:31.400 Probably, right?

00:13:32.420 If, if, if 50% of the vote that were Donald Trump and Trump himself came out and gave a

00:13:37.900 full throated endorsement of Ramaswamy, would Ramaswamy lead the primary?

00:13:41.340 Probably.

00:13:42.040 And he might be the most likely to receive a Trump endorsement if Trump ever dropped

00:13:45.680 out because he's not completely friendly to Trump.

00:13:48.340 Certainly not at all times and not going to be Haley.

00:13:50.440 Nope.

00:13:50.760 Now, Scott is, is one you could see theoretically.

00:13:53.960 Trump, Trump seems to have no problem with Tim Scott.

00:13:56.180 Yeah.

00:13:56.560 So maybe, and you know, that's why a lot of people mentioned him as a VP candidate.

00:14:00.160 He's been relatively kind.

00:14:02.080 Of course, the reason for that is he doesn't see Scott as a threat.

00:14:05.400 And so, but maybe there could be some, but Ramaswamy, I don't know.

00:14:09.760 I mean, it seems to be the only real strategy because he's not growing his numbers at all.

00:14:14.840 He's not.

00:14:15.240 He's really not very, I mean, nobody is really Nikki Haley, maybe a little bit.

00:14:19.940 She's, she's come up somewhat in the polls and I think in some polls she's tied DeSantis,

00:14:24.640 but I don't get that either.

00:14:27.300 We should talk about her next because she was the other one.

00:14:30.000 Like DeSantis, I thought was solid throughout and I don't, I don't think he has bad debates.

00:14:34.820 He just doesn't seem to have amazing ones either.

00:14:36.640 I noticed that on the Drudge report, it was Nikki Haley who won the debate, according to Drudge readers.

00:14:45.820 Drudge readers, wow.

00:14:46.720 Yeah.

00:14:47.040 That's interesting.

00:14:47.840 Because I mean, the New York Times pundits said the same thing.

00:14:51.560 So the fact that if she can win with both of those groups, that's probably a pretty good performance.

00:14:55.660 Yeah.

00:14:55.800 Yeah.

00:14:56.920 Here's Ron DeSantis last night though, on why he should be president over Donald Trump.

00:15:02.960 Now, if you look where we are now, it's a lot different than we were in 2016.

00:15:06.720 And Donald Trump's a lot different guy than he was in 2016.

00:15:10.560 He owes it to you to be on this stage and explain why he should get another chance.

00:15:16.060 He should explain why he didn't have Mexico pay for the border wall.

00:15:20.200 He should explain why he racked up so much debt.

00:15:23.120 He should explain why he didn't drain the swamp.

00:15:25.560 And he said Republicans were going to get tired of winning.

00:15:28.320 Well, we saw last night, I'm sick of Republicans losing.

00:15:32.060 In Florida, I showed how it's done.

00:15:34.760 One year ago here, we won a historic victory, including a massive landslide right here in Miami-Dade County.

00:15:42.000 That's how we have to do it.

00:15:43.680 So I promise you this, as the nominee, next November, I'll get the job done.

00:15:47.580 And as president, I will deliver for you.

00:15:49.480 Let me turn to Ambassador Haley.

00:15:51.020 It's a good answer.

00:15:53.360 Yeah.

00:15:53.640 It's a good answer.

00:15:54.520 Yeah, it is.

00:15:55.220 You know, DeSantis is pretty good at this.

00:15:59.700 You know, I think every time I watch him, I'm thinking like, ah, these are all solid answers.

00:16:03.000 He's solid.

00:16:03.400 I'm never like, oh gosh, that was terrible.

00:16:05.820 I mean, you know, maybe there's a moment here or there, but generally speaking.

00:16:08.780 On the other hand, I don't know if there's ever a time when you say, wow, that was spectacular.

00:16:12.660 He doesn't grab the stage.

00:16:13.540 He doesn't have that charisma kind of thing.

00:16:14.920 Yeah.

00:16:15.120 You know, but he's good and I like him and I could vote for him.

00:16:19.040 And he'd be a good president.

00:16:19.860 He'd be a good president.

00:16:21.200 I think so.

00:16:22.220 I mean, I think he'd be very good.

00:16:23.600 Yeah.

00:16:24.060 I don't think there's any question about that.

00:16:26.080 And I don't know.

00:16:27.580 It's just, we seem to be in that state of wanting these crazy moments, which is what kind of Ramaswamy is providing.

00:16:37.040 And it's what everyone, I guess, talks about.

00:16:39.140 But when you talk about who would actually be a really good president, I mean, I don't know.

00:16:42.500 It just seems like he'd just be really good at the job.

00:16:44.980 Does that matter anymore?

00:16:45.840 I don't know.

00:16:46.480 I don't know if that matters anymore.

00:16:48.120 No, it doesn't.

00:16:48.960 Does he have charisma?

00:16:50.400 Right.

00:16:51.120 If not, then I can't vote for him.

00:16:53.520 Despite his policies.

00:16:55.160 That's such a weird line.

00:16:56.400 It's weird.

00:16:56.980 Yeah, it is.

00:16:57.820 That's where we are.

00:16:58.360 All right.

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00:17:06.840 Rough Greens.

00:17:07.560 So they say a dog is a man's best friend.

00:17:09.780 And that's a relationship that you have to take seriously.

00:17:12.480 So if you're a pet owner, you not only want your dog to be healthy and happy, but you're

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00:18:47.860 So Nikki Haley talked about why she should be president rather than Donald Trump.

00:18:53.480 Here's what she had to say about it.

00:18:55.120 You know, everybody wants to talk about President Trump.

00:18:57.560 Well, I can talk about President Trump.

00:18:59.240 I can tell you that I think he was the right president at the right time.

00:19:02.620 I don't think he's the right president now.

00:19:04.760 I think that he put us $8 trillion in debt and our kids are never going to forgive us

00:19:09.900 for that.

00:19:10.660 I think the fact that he used to be right on Ukraine and foreign issues, now he's getting

00:19:15.300 weak in the knees and trying to be friendly again.

00:19:17.760 I think that we've got to go back to the fact that we can't live in the past.

00:19:21.340 We can't live in other headlines.

00:19:23.860 We've got to start focusing on what's going to make America strong and proud.

00:19:27.900 And that's what I'm focused on doing.

00:19:29.700 Are you surprised at what a warmonger she is?

00:19:31.980 She would have us in a war on every continent on this planet, I believe.

00:19:36.280 She and Tim Scott.

00:19:37.800 If you're going to have all these continents, what's the point of them if you don't have

00:19:40.580 a war on it?

00:19:40.780 If you're not having a war there.

00:19:41.980 Yeah.

00:19:42.620 I think we'd be attacking penguins in Antarctica if she becomes president.

00:19:47.300 And that might be the best one because they'd have a hard time fighting back.

00:19:50.960 What are they going to do?

00:19:51.700 Peck us with their beaks?

00:19:53.240 I don't mind that.

00:19:53.960 That's okay.

00:19:54.420 So maybe we fight the war in Antarctica.

00:19:56.840 Let's start there.

00:19:57.600 But not in Asia.

00:19:58.500 How about that one?

00:19:59.200 First of all, no one came out on the stage and said we should colonize Antarctica and I'm

00:20:02.540 disappointed.

00:20:03.600 Yeah.

00:20:04.200 That's a big issue right now.

00:20:05.540 What candidate would bring that to me?

00:20:06.520 I want the candidate who's just going to take over Antarctica.

00:20:09.080 Are you a single issue guy and that's enough to gain your vote?

00:20:12.760 Absolutely.

00:20:13.420 Yes.

00:20:13.920 Yeah.

00:20:14.320 It's fascinating.

00:20:16.020 And I understand.

00:20:17.160 I have some sympathy for these candidates who are trying to walk this impossible line.

00:20:20.540 They know the voting public likes Donald Trump and so they can't attack him like Chris Christie

00:20:25.860 does or they'll never win.

00:20:27.560 But they also know they have to be critical of at some level or what's the point of you?

00:20:31.680 Why are you there?

00:20:32.720 Right?

00:20:32.980 Like, you know, Ramaswamy at one point said, oh, well, this is in the previous debate, but

00:20:36.440 he said, oh, Donald Trump was the greatest president of my lifetime.

00:20:39.340 Well, then why are you running?

00:20:40.500 Like, well, that's the point of it.

00:20:42.600 Right.

00:20:43.020 But like, I have some sympathy there.

00:20:45.520 But like Haley's response, if he was the right president of the right at the right

00:20:49.440 time that put us eight trillion dollars in debt, that's not a that's not a good point.

00:20:55.800 It's not.

00:20:56.680 If he put us eight trillion dollars in debt, he wasn't the right president at the right

00:21:00.200 time.

00:21:00.960 Right.

00:21:01.640 I think, you know, let's now, of course, he's not responsible for all that debt.

00:21:05.620 He's responsible for a decent chunk of it.

00:21:07.640 And her other problem with Trump is that he's not aggressive enough on the world stage,

00:21:12.580 which, I mean, look, his record at the time kind of disproves that.

00:21:16.940 I mean, he was, I thought, pretty aggressive on the world stage.

00:21:20.180 His rhetoric at times was much more the opposite.

00:21:24.400 Right.

00:21:24.540 He would say, I'm best friends with Kim Jong-il or Kim Un.

00:21:27.720 But you notice.

00:21:28.580 But you notice that.

00:21:29.220 Russia didn't take.

00:21:30.800 Yeah.

00:21:31.260 They didn't try to take over Ukraine at the time.

00:21:34.460 Yeah.

00:21:34.920 The key with Trump every single time is to look at what actually is happening rather than

00:21:39.400 what he says.

00:21:39.900 And what he says is, I'm good buddies with Vladimir Putin.

00:21:43.220 His policy against Russia was strong.

00:21:45.920 Yeah.

00:21:46.220 There is no problem with his policy against Russia.

00:21:49.680 The fact that he would blurt out compliments to Vladimir Putin here and there is weird at

00:21:54.680 some level, but it doesn't really matter.

00:21:56.820 I think a lot of it has to do with Trump trying to.

00:22:00.340 He has this idea that everything he says is a negotiation of something.

00:22:04.420 And that's what it was with Kim Jong-un.

00:22:06.360 It's what it was with Putin.

00:22:07.780 I don't know.

00:22:08.080 Does he really like Putin?

00:22:09.020 Is he really best friends with Kim Jong-un?

00:22:10.720 I don't know.

00:22:10.740 Whatever he did seemed to work.

00:22:12.260 We didn't have all these wars at this time.

00:22:14.280 And I think a lot of that was the policy he was actually executing rather than the things

00:22:18.040 he was saying.

00:22:19.760 I think that's a good point.

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00:24:11.840 And welcome.

00:24:27.860 Thanks for being here.

00:24:29.240 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn today on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:24:32.360 We're going to have to have a polite request here to everyone tuning in today.

00:24:36.800 We're going to target our target audience today are adults.

00:24:44.240 Now, adults are people who don't lose their mind every time the candidate they like gets mildly criticized or the candidate they don't like gets a little praise.

00:24:55.460 We're going to need to fight.

00:24:57.760 We're looking for those people today.

00:24:59.420 And it might only be four people left in America.

00:25:01.900 Honestly, if you look at social media, that's what it feels like sometimes.

00:25:04.620 Yeah.

00:25:04.720 But in reality, when I talk to actual human beings, they have the same conversations that we're having today.

00:25:11.200 Yeah, we're trying to noodle it out right now.

00:25:13.580 This is the time when we've got to sort through all the stuff and figure out who's the best candidate.

00:25:19.680 That's what the primary is for.

00:25:21.820 And that involves criticism sometimes for somebody and then praising somebody else.

00:25:26.440 But your time for your candidate is coming, too, because there's enough praise to go around for everybody and enough criticism to go around for everybody.

00:25:34.720 Right.

00:25:35.300 A primary season, for whatever reason, like turns people's brains off.

00:25:39.940 It's interesting because like, hey, you know, it's like Boston Red Sox versus New York Yankees.

00:25:46.900 Let's pick our team and let's be angry about it.

00:25:49.980 Argue for bad calls every single time something goes wrong.

00:25:53.680 It's just like, look, relax.

00:25:55.040 This is not a decision between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton right now.

00:25:59.920 This is a decision between a bunch of people who would probably all be somewhere between decent and really good presidents.

00:26:07.240 So let's figure out which one this is going to be.

00:26:10.420 And then we'll move on to the next stage.

00:26:12.760 There's no reason to blow your stack and lose your mind when we're talking about the primaries.

00:26:17.500 We mentioned the shoe situation the other day on my show because it's a big controversy.

00:26:22.340 We're making fun of the fact that Ron DeSantis either does or doesn't wear lifters in his shoes to be taller on stage.

00:26:32.300 It's just so dumb.

00:26:33.960 And that was our point was that it's stupid.

00:26:36.260 I don't care if he wears stilts on stage.

00:26:39.040 He's a great governor and he might make a really good president.

00:26:44.920 I don't know yet.

00:26:45.860 But I'm trying to noodle that out.

00:26:47.560 Well, some of his supporters were really pissed.

00:26:51.200 You didn't even talk about the fact.

00:26:52.840 What are you doing talking about his shoes?

00:26:55.600 Well, they're making a big deal out of it right now.

00:26:59.260 So we talked about his shoes.

00:27:00.500 You didn't even mention that the governor of Iowa endorsed him.

00:27:04.340 Yeah, well, neither did he last night on the debate, by the way.

00:27:09.280 Surprising, actually, that he didn't.

00:27:10.320 It is.

00:27:10.660 It is a big endorsement.

00:27:12.220 We did mention it.

00:27:13.820 You know, I don't, you know, it's important.

00:27:16.180 It is.

00:27:16.500 It's more important than shoes.

00:27:17.700 But also, it's also important to slap down idiotic controversies, which is what we do all the time.

00:27:21.980 Yeah.

00:27:22.260 And have some fun.

00:27:23.420 Which, by the way, is an important part of the show.

00:27:26.640 If you don't like fun, then you're probably not going to like the Pac-Rae Unleashed broadcast.

00:27:30.820 The point is, yeah, you're going to have a little fun with the news.

00:27:33.560 I will say last night, of course, it was brought up.

00:27:35.580 People missed this when Vivek did his line about the heels.

00:27:39.100 Everyone was like, oh, Vivek just slammed Nikki Haley.

00:27:41.920 That's not what he did.

00:27:43.280 I mean, he sort of did that with a Dick Cheney and three-inch heels.

00:27:47.640 But when everyone went, oh, they missed the second part of his line where he said, oh, and there's two of them on stage right now.

00:27:54.420 Yeah.

00:27:54.800 Right?

00:27:55.040 Like he was saying both Haley and DeSantis both wear heels.

00:27:59.540 Like DeSantis, to his credit, just ignored it.

00:28:03.480 Just ignored it.

00:28:04.100 I will say Ramaswamy went down this road multiple times yesterday where he decided, I'm just going

00:28:08.680 to go for these like sort of like low blow, wisecrack type of approaches.

00:28:13.220 I don't think they worked.

00:28:15.420 It didn't seem like it.

00:28:16.620 The other one was the Nikki Haley TikTok thing.

00:28:19.680 Not good.

00:28:20.200 Which was bizarre.

00:28:20.960 Going after her daughter, who's 25 years old, by the way.

00:28:23.900 There's so many different elements to this.

00:28:25.240 Number one, going after your daughter and saying, oh, well, take care of your own family before

00:28:29.200 you tell people not to go on TikTok.

00:28:30.660 It's just a, I don't know.

00:28:32.040 It's a bad, it's a dumb approach.

00:28:33.820 It felt like oddly harsh and weird.

00:28:36.400 But then secondarily, it doesn't make any sense.

00:28:39.400 She's 25 years old.

00:28:40.620 What the hell does Nikki Haley have to do with her 25 year old daughter's internet usage?

00:28:46.080 Like that, there's no, it would be weird if she could get her daughter off of TikTok when

00:28:52.620 she's 25 years old.

00:28:54.020 What would that say about her 25 year old daughter?

00:28:56.180 She has no agency at all.

00:28:58.680 Mommy's still making my internet choices at 25.

00:29:01.860 That's just bizarre.

00:29:03.540 Yeah.

00:29:03.980 And then her, her moment after that, I thought was also weird.

00:29:08.140 People are like, oh, it got spicy.

00:29:10.480 She called Vivek Ramaswamy scum, which at first I thought she said dumb, which she sort

00:29:17.340 of tried to say a couple times.

00:29:20.020 Then I guess it was scum.

00:29:21.400 That's how everyone was reporting it, which is a little over the line too.

00:29:24.620 It is.

00:29:25.000 The whole thing, that whole back and forth, I didn't, I didn't like all that much.

00:29:28.860 I will say the debate was better than the second one, which was just people talking over

00:29:33.180 each other the entire time.

00:29:34.560 Yeah.

00:29:34.760 A lot better than that.

00:29:35.560 But none of them have been good.

00:29:37.280 None of them have been good.

00:29:37.840 It was just less bad than the other two.

00:29:39.580 Yeah.

00:29:39.860 I thought, oddly, I thought NBC did a decent job.

00:29:43.740 A better job than Fox.

00:29:44.920 Much better than Fox Business, for sure.

00:29:47.120 Yeah.

00:29:47.240 Yeah.

00:29:47.260 Keeping it under control, though they did eliminate so much of the back and forth that really there

00:29:52.880 was only a few moments where people were actually talking to each other.

00:29:56.660 And DeSantis stays above all this.

00:29:58.920 Yeah.

00:29:59.620 Largely, almost never goes after these other candidates.

00:30:02.780 And I guess that's a, you know, I would assume at this point it's a strategy.

00:30:05.860 It does mean he does not get the viral moments.

00:30:08.760 It means that he doesn't get those big moments.

00:30:10.720 And it's funny, from a guy who really rose to prominence among conservatives, by battling

00:30:16.740 the media, he has not had really any of those moments during the campaign.

00:30:22.220 All of them came previous to the campaign, where he was out there talking with the media,

00:30:26.860 battling back and forth.

00:30:28.240 And I think that would help him a lot if he had more of those.

00:30:31.280 Because for whatever reason, he's, you know, kind of staying above it.

00:30:34.780 And I don't think that's a terrible approach, but it is, it sort of takes away one of his

00:30:39.100 strengths at some level.

00:30:41.500 Mm-hmm.

00:30:42.360 So, I don't know.

00:30:43.140 And then you had Christie and Tim Scott on the stage.

00:30:45.100 I don't know if there's anything to say really about them.

00:30:47.160 You know, Scott is, I like Tim Scott.

00:30:49.400 He just doesn't, it doesn't seem like it's going to happen here.

00:30:51.500 Yeah.

00:30:52.080 It's not going to happen.

00:30:53.100 It's not going to happen.

00:30:53.940 And Chris Christie, we haven't liked since, well, when we thought he was really good back in 2010.

00:30:59.820 Yeah, probably 2010-ish.

00:31:02.440 Yeah, this is probably the last time we thought Chris Christie was good.

00:31:05.100 It's interesting because Christie comes into this race as a guy who basically says,

00:31:09.140 I just want to take on Donald Trump.

00:31:10.440 I don't want Donald Trump to be president.

00:31:11.840 I can stop him.

00:31:12.600 That's his case.

00:31:13.380 Now, of course, that's a ridiculous case.

00:31:14.960 He's already run against Donald Trump and got slaughtered by him.

00:31:17.720 But, okay, let's, what's, what's your case here?

00:31:20.360 And then he really doesn't talk about Donald Trump much at all in these debates.

00:31:23.940 He almost never brings him up.

00:31:25.200 I mean, he occasionally will, but he doesn't talk about him all that often.

00:31:30.460 And you'd think if your goal is to have Donald Trump not be president really at any cost,

00:31:37.440 what you probably don't want to do is weaken other candidates in a state like New Hampshire,

00:31:42.080 where he polls relatively well.

00:31:44.480 You'd think you'd want those votes to go to somebody else so that someone else could beat Donald Trump.

00:31:48.060 But then he's still in the race.

00:31:49.380 So I don't know.

00:31:49.900 I think Chris Christie thinks so much of Chris Christie that he's not going to drop out before New Hampshire.

00:31:55.080 But that's really the only state he's doing anything in.

00:31:57.940 And if anything, he's drawing votes away from someone like maybe Haley,

00:32:01.960 who might be actually able to compete with Trump in New Hampshire.

00:32:05.480 Where's he polling in New Hampshire?

00:32:07.120 Some of the polls have him around 10%, which is not second.

00:32:10.600 He's usually...

00:32:12.380 He's behind DeSantis or Haley?

00:32:14.180 Let me look it up real quick.

00:32:15.200 It's been...

00:32:16.000 Because certainly Trump's way ahead, even there.

00:32:18.680 Yeah. Oh, look, Trump is ahead everywhere.

00:32:21.800 We talked about this a little bit yesterday.

00:32:23.240 Let me run this by you.

00:32:24.720 Tell me if you think this is the right way to look at this right now.

00:32:27.020 There are two different strategies,

00:32:29.980 essentially two different things going on at the same time.

00:32:32.880 And Ron DeSantis has the real decision to make, I think, more than anybody else when it comes to this.

00:32:38.300 But you have one traditional primary

00:32:41.260 where everyone tries to win the race.

00:32:47.100 I know this sounds weird, but like that is the way we normally think of these things, right?

00:32:53.100 You go in, you try to win.

00:32:55.560 You try to actually defeat all the other candidates and come out on top and get the nomination.

00:32:59.480 That is one way to run a primary.

00:33:01.560 The other way, which is like unique, it's like special, it's a special 2024 edition of primaries.

00:33:07.860 What you do is you run and act as if Donald Trump isn't doing anything at all.

00:33:14.280 He's a separate person.

00:33:15.780 He's almost like he's a third party candidate or something.

00:33:19.020 And what you do is try to win this second place primary

00:33:22.300 with the assumption that there's a decent chance that Donald Trump winds up in jail, right?

00:33:29.620 That the deep state comes out and is successful in one of their 95 charges against him

00:33:34.760 and wind up somehow removing him from this race,

00:33:37.900 either because he feels like I can't do this for some reason,

00:33:41.780 or they put him in prison, or whatever reason he decides he's going to drop out,

00:33:47.740 he winds up being eliminated.

00:33:49.540 Maybe they remove him from ballots all over the country.

00:33:51.600 Which they're trying to do.

00:33:52.160 Which they're trying to do.

00:33:52.780 And they have done, apparently, in Colorado.

00:33:54.460 If that happens, there may be a need for a second place person.

00:33:59.040 And your goal is not to win this primary, but to just come in second place

00:34:02.800 so you are the next choice if the Trump thing falls apart.

00:34:05.260 Because you realize, I can't actually win if he's there the whole time.

00:34:09.720 DeSantis is in that middle ground where he still is competitive in Iowa

00:34:14.240 comparative to the national picture.

00:34:18.040 And he also has enough people who like Donald Trump that are voting for him.

00:34:22.800 And he's often the second choice for people voting for Donald Trump.

00:34:27.560 So he's kind of in that weird mode where he could try to beat Donald Trump,

00:34:31.480 but he doesn't want to lose those voters.

00:34:33.720 Haley is in a different spot, right?

00:34:35.540 Haley's votes all seemingly come from the never-Trump type of people in the party.

00:34:40.040 So she really, it's going to be hard for her to gain

00:34:42.520 the 50% of people who are voting for Trump right now anyway.

00:34:45.980 So for her, you got to run for this second place ticket.

00:34:49.740 Like, you're running for a second place primary.

00:34:51.420 Be there in case Trump falters, right?

00:34:55.020 DeSantis has a choice of whether to go for the whole thing and just beat him

00:34:58.540 or to hang back and go for that second place decision.

00:35:02.060 And I feel like he's in between those two choices right now.

00:35:04.100 And I was wondering if last night he would be a little more aggressive.

00:35:07.160 He didn't seem to really criticize Trump.

00:35:09.340 Like, I mean, it's amazing that we would go through an entire debate

00:35:12.200 and no one really mentions that, you know,

00:35:15.700 Donald Trump was the guy standing next to Anthony Fauci

00:35:19.020 when the 15 days to slow the spread was uttered.

00:35:21.960 They might be afraid to do that.

00:35:23.120 I think they are.

00:35:23.960 Because you infuriate Trump supporters.

00:35:26.140 You do.

00:35:26.500 And Trump himself, who goes after people and destroys them.

00:35:31.720 You know?

00:35:32.440 Yeah.

00:35:32.700 That's what happened in 2016.

00:35:34.520 He just destroyed the rest of the field, all 17 or 18 of them.

00:35:38.180 And so I think they're a little gun shy now.

00:35:40.640 I don't think they want to even mention his name.

00:35:43.480 They want to pretend like, yeah, he's not even here.

00:35:46.020 Yeah.

00:35:46.720 And he's not there.

00:35:47.680 There was a story from early in the campaign from behind the scenes.

00:35:50.820 And this was sort of a leak from the DeSantis campaign.

00:35:53.880 And, you know, again, it was a report.

00:35:56.220 You never know how accurate these things are.

00:35:57.920 But the report was that they tested a bunch of different ways

00:36:00.640 to message DeSantis as a better president than Trump.

00:36:04.040 That's obviously what he should be doing right now.

00:36:06.060 There's no reason to elect Ron DeSantis if he's not as good a president

00:36:08.960 or would be as good a president as Donald Trump.

00:36:11.620 The same thing with Ramaswamy or Haley or anything.

00:36:14.040 If you're not better than Trump, then you might as well just pick Trump.

00:36:16.520 So how do you differentiate yourself?

00:36:18.540 Their early pick was, hey, let's call him out on the lockdowns, right?

00:36:23.000 He was there.

00:36:23.920 He was the person who he was on stage when 15 days to slow the spread happened.

00:36:28.840 He was the guy making the announcement.

00:36:30.140 It was going to last for another month.

00:36:31.540 And while he was certainly better than Gavin Newsom and Andrew Cuomo

00:36:34.700 and the worst of the worst, you know, Democratic governors,

00:36:37.940 he was very involved in all of this stuff.

00:36:39.500 And he was standing next to Anthony Fauci.

00:36:41.320 He gave Fauci a medal of commendation at the end of his term.

00:36:45.700 Like all these things happened.

00:36:46.860 How do we message that?

00:36:48.080 And one of their ideas was they tested, what about the lockdowns?

00:36:52.960 How do you feel about the lockdowns to Republican primary voters?

00:36:55.540 And overwhelmingly negative, right?

00:36:57.600 Exactly how you'd expect.

00:36:59.080 You know, 70, 80% negative.

00:37:01.140 And then they tested it instead.

00:37:03.440 What if we called it the Trump lockdowns?

00:37:07.220 The negativity completely evaporated.

00:37:09.640 Oh, wow.

00:37:10.140 It turned into they got mad at the person delivering that message because they associated Trump with it.

00:37:16.500 And at some level, we can be critical of these candidates.

00:37:19.800 But if that is the reality with voters, that they get mad.

00:37:24.140 And I believe that.

00:37:24.980 That seems to be at times how it looks.

00:37:27.220 We've experienced that.

00:37:28.480 If that's true, how are you going to win?

00:37:32.000 You can't.

00:37:32.260 You could say these guys are not running great campaigns.

00:37:34.960 But like in reality, how do you beat someone who has that power?

00:37:38.680 You don't.

00:37:39.640 That's how that's the end of that story.

00:37:41.180 If he's able to maintain that magical power throughout this primary, you don't beat him.

00:37:45.960 That's how that story ends.

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00:41:05.560 Well, discussing the debate last night, going to get to your thoughts on it coming up here in just a few minutes.

00:41:12.720 But I thought it was the best debate so far.

00:41:14.980 That's not saying much because the first two were terrible.

00:41:17.360 It's funny.

00:41:17.720 I said the same thing, and I was like, God, that was the best one.

00:41:20.300 That was terrible.

00:41:21.000 Yeah.

00:41:21.380 But I thought it probably was.

00:41:23.640 But I was surprised because it was on NBC.

00:41:25.680 Yeah.

00:41:25.920 And I figured it'd be a lot worse.

00:41:27.720 I mean, it was irritating.

00:41:29.100 And there were some times when Lester Holt especially showed his, you know, progressive bias.

00:41:36.800 Just bothersome.

00:41:38.740 One of the things that, I mean, right after DeSantis talked about people mentioning Islamophobia instead of concentrating on all of the hatred of Jews right now and the anti-Semitism that's going on.

00:41:53.040 What does Lester Holt do but go right to, what about all the Islamophobia going on right now?

00:41:59.280 What about that?

00:42:00.480 I mean, he had just skewered Biden for the same thing and talked about Biden and the media.

00:42:06.120 It's incredible.

00:42:07.000 Screaming about Islamophobia.

00:42:08.800 And then he shows the example of it by asking a question about what are you going to do about Islamophobia?

00:42:15.980 Well, nothing.

00:42:17.440 I don't see much.

00:42:18.560 I mean, you talk about that one instance.

00:42:20.820 And that was horrific.

00:42:22.040 Horrific and awful.

00:42:23.820 But it's one instance.

00:42:24.960 But it's one out of 330 million people here.

00:42:29.060 There have been so many instances, including a death in California just last week of a Jew by a pro-Palestinian crowd.

00:42:39.360 And people are getting attacked.

00:42:40.420 They're being attacked.

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00:42:42.360 They're being hunted.

00:42:44.120 Stars of David are being painted on homes.

00:42:46.800 It's incredible.

00:42:48.340 And we're worried about Islamophobia.

00:42:50.500 Hmm.

00:42:51.100 All right.

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00:45:42.040 Debate number three last night.

00:45:44.000 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

00:45:46.080 We want to get your thoughts on the debate and how it went.

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00:47:07.640 The typical warmongering last night I was interested in from Nikki Haley,

00:47:14.080 and to a certain extent Tim Scott, too, and Chris Christie.

00:47:17.520 Those are the three war hawks, I think, on the stage and that are running for president.

00:47:22.240 What I like from Ron DeSantis, one of the things, was that he wouldn't commit.

00:47:27.220 He's not going to send troops to Ukraine, but he will send troops to the U.S. border.

00:47:33.660 That's nice.

00:47:34.060 I like that, except I could hear people screaming at their television.

00:47:38.260 That's posse comitatus!

00:47:39.780 Posse comitatus!

00:47:40.980 You can't do that!

00:47:42.120 Posse comitatus!

00:47:44.860 He's going to deal with that if that really happens.

00:47:47.200 If he were to become president and actually fulfill that promise,

00:47:52.200 he'd have a nightmare on his hands.

00:47:55.140 No, that's true.

00:47:56.040 I mean, I think, I don't know.

00:47:57.160 Maybe I didn't take it as, you know, I did the old,

00:47:59.520 maybe I did the old Trump thing here where I took him seriously,

00:48:02.380 but not literally on that one.

00:48:03.580 I don't know.

00:48:04.240 You know, there's a lot of legal wrangling that would need to go on

00:48:08.220 with that type of situation.

00:48:10.000 Yeah.

00:48:10.380 But the point is, I do want someone who's going to take the border seriously,

00:48:14.160 and maybe that prioritizes our own country over foreign escapades.

00:48:18.080 Yeah.

00:48:18.260 You know, I will say for Haley in particular,

00:48:22.480 and I think Tim Scott as well, but he's just not as big a factor in the election.

00:48:27.600 The one thing I will say about Haley is she is outwardly advocating for her point of view

00:48:32.700 and not trying to hide it.

00:48:34.160 That's true.

00:48:34.480 And I do like that.

00:48:35.820 I mean, she, look, there is still a large percentage,

00:48:39.680 or let's say a significant percentage of conservative voters who view the world that way

00:48:45.880 and want to be more aggressive in a foreign policy capacity.

00:48:50.460 And that is a significant group of voters in the primary,

00:48:53.440 and they should have someone who's representing their views on stage.

00:48:56.700 And she does do that.

00:48:58.520 I don't know that the energy of the party is there right now.

00:49:01.660 And I don't know that.

00:49:02.440 I think we're tired of it.

00:49:03.300 I think so, too.

00:49:04.520 I think that that is where most voters are.

00:49:07.620 Now, when you talk about a general election, it's kind of a different story.

00:49:11.600 I mean, the polling on Ukraine is not bad from a general election perspective.

00:49:16.320 I think I want to say it's, you know,

00:49:17.860 continued funding for Ukraine is something like 58-38-4.

00:49:23.800 Really?

00:49:24.400 When you talk to a general election audience.

00:49:26.480 That's interesting.

00:49:28.160 Especially on the day yesterday where Volodymyr Zelensky

00:49:32.780 said, yeah, it's not the right time for elections.

00:49:35.940 Yeah, this is not.

00:49:36.800 They've got an election coming up that's supposed to happen in Ukraine.

00:49:40.240 Yeah, this is not the right time for elections.

00:49:43.600 After, or even as, the Republican candidates are calling, you know,

00:49:48.860 Ukraine this beacon of democracy and freedom and all of that.

00:49:52.960 And they're the ones who are fighting for all of that.

00:49:55.040 And as Zelensky is saying that, yeah, we're not going to do an election now.

00:50:01.200 It's not the right time.

00:50:03.060 Oh.

00:50:03.980 Hmm.

00:50:04.640 Oh, okay.

00:50:05.080 I thought he had just, did he just revise that and say that now it is the time

00:50:08.480 for an election?

00:50:09.580 I thought he had just come out with that recently.

00:50:11.520 But still, it's...

00:50:12.120 No, yesterday, or Monday, he said it's not the right time for elections.

00:50:14.980 Not the right time.

00:50:15.540 Okay.

00:50:15.940 Yeah.

00:50:16.700 Yeah.

00:50:16.920 I mean, that's the ultimate position to be in.

00:50:20.840 You know what?

00:50:21.300 Eh, not the time.

00:50:21.580 Yeah, you know what?

00:50:22.220 It's not the time.

00:50:22.880 Not the time.

00:50:23.020 So we're not going to do that right now.

00:50:25.860 I mean, I don't know.

00:50:27.200 I don't get the infatuation with Ukraine.

00:50:30.460 I don't, I mean, I don't think, I don't get an infatuation with it.

00:50:34.440 I mean, I think it's an issue where I totally understand from the Ukrainian's

00:50:40.560 perspective why this is a problem.

00:50:42.780 Well, sure.

00:50:43.420 But I just don't know that it needs to be our job to do this.

00:50:47.320 And like, if, I think the sensible place to be.

00:50:49.080 I'm tired of it being our job.

00:50:50.940 Yeah.

00:50:51.240 To take, to police the world.

00:50:53.480 It's not our job.

00:50:54.620 And our founders would be adamantly against it.

00:50:59.860 Yeah.

00:51:00.080 I do think there is a, there are U.S. interests in this particular battle

00:51:07.840 because I don't like the idea of no buffer state between Russia and NATO.

00:51:13.340 And NATO is essentially us when it comes to war, unless we're dropping out of

00:51:16.540 it.

00:51:17.080 So we, so having that buffer state is important to us.

00:51:19.520 I think that is within the scope of American interests, but that does, the

00:51:24.820 scope of American interest does not extend to getting every inch of territory back

00:51:28.120 for Ukraine.

00:51:28.700 That is in Ukrainian interests.

00:51:30.480 Yeah.

00:51:30.720 And if I was Ukrainian, I guarantee.

00:51:32.900 I would want Crimea back.

00:51:34.160 I want the whole Donbass region back.

00:51:37.780 But hey, that's not our gig.

00:51:40.320 Who was it that said we have, they haven't had that since 2014?

00:51:42.960 Yeah.

00:51:43.400 That was Ramaswamy, which I don't think is right.

00:51:45.720 And Crimea since 2014.

00:51:47.820 I don't know about Donbass.

00:51:48.840 Yeah.

00:51:49.180 The other regions.

00:51:50.340 Now there, there have been times where Putin's like, well, we ran a poll and they said they

00:51:56.240 wanted independence.

00:51:57.080 They're with us now.

00:51:57.840 But it was not understood to be part of Russia, certainly at that time.

00:52:01.000 Yeah.

00:52:01.340 But that's a whole another story.

00:52:03.600 The point is that what our interest is, is avoiding World War III.

00:52:07.800 That's my interest, at least.

00:52:09.220 Mine, too.

00:52:09.580 I want that to not be a thing.

00:52:11.160 I'm somewhat interested in that.

00:52:11.520 Yeah, me, too.

00:52:12.100 Like, you know, sometimes I was like, oh, gosh.

00:52:13.660 How about no nuclear war?

00:52:14.740 How about that?

00:52:15.320 I was super into, gosh, what's Return of the Jedi going to be?

00:52:18.840 The third one.

00:52:19.520 I want to see.

00:52:20.160 It's actually the sixth one, but whatever.

00:52:22.100 Rocky III.

00:52:23.100 I really wanted that to come out.

00:52:24.560 I'm really passionate.

00:52:25.520 I can't wait to see it in theaters.

00:52:27.460 You can wait on World War III, though?

00:52:29.060 Yeah, I feel like they should take their time in the development.

00:52:30.680 Because it's been a while.

00:52:31.520 It's been 70-some years since the last sequel.

00:52:35.380 Get it right.

00:52:35.760 You're okay?

00:52:36.100 You know, let's wait until it's right.

00:52:37.740 All right.

00:52:38.020 Keep it in the edit bays for a while, and let's wait on that one.

00:52:42.080 And that's my interest.

00:52:43.280 That is what the U.S. interest is, right?

00:52:45.420 To avoid World War III, to avoid having to get involved in a NATO type of conflict with Russia.

00:52:54.060 And so to that end, everything behind the scenes should be directed in that way.

00:52:59.380 Instead of telling, hey, Zelensky, we're going to keep giving you unlimited weapons for an unlimited amount of time until you have your ultimate victory and every inch of territory is clawed back.

00:53:09.220 In fact, you might say those things publicly because, obviously, once you back off of that, you're no longer negotiating from a place of strength.

00:53:18.980 But privately, what this should be is, hey, guys, we'll do this until this date, which is really soon.

00:53:25.400 So you better figure out a way to end this.

00:53:30.080 You had your attempt at a counteroffensive.

00:53:33.300 It hasn't really gone anywhere.

00:53:35.080 Guys, everyone's locked in.

00:53:36.540 They've probably got landmines all over this territory anyway.

00:53:39.500 It's going to be a catastrophe even if you get it back.

00:53:42.660 Look, behind the scenes, let's find a way to wind this thing down because it's not unlimited support from us.

00:53:48.380 Yeah.

00:53:48.480 It doesn't seem like there's a lot of passion from that from a Haley or Biden.

00:53:52.500 You do see that, I think, probably from DeSantis.

00:53:55.100 At some level, you probably see it from Trump and maybe Ramaswamy.

00:53:59.960 But the Haley position on this, I don't think is consistent with where the voters are in the primary.

00:54:07.660 Yeah, I don't think so either.

00:54:08.940 Maybe in the general, like you said.

00:54:10.220 If it's 5838, I hadn't heard those numbers.

00:54:12.220 That's just the funding.

00:54:13.600 Wow.

00:54:13.820 Does that mean it's everlasting funding?

00:54:15.780 I mean, I don't think – I think if Nikki Haley was president –

00:54:18.400 Do they know how much we've already funded that war to the tune of?

00:54:22.120 It's like hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:54:25.320 It's a lot.

00:54:25.580 If you include the military with the humanitarian, whatever else, you know, the small business loans and all the stuff we're giving them, it's over $200 billion.

00:54:35.320 It's a ton.

00:54:37.320 And are you willing to keep that spigot open the whole time?

00:54:42.800 I mean, Haley, I think, certainly is.

00:54:44.160 Yeah, she is.

00:54:44.760 If Nikki Haley is elected president, there is basically – I mean, almost no chance that this war has ended or we're funding it in 2029.

00:54:55.460 Yeah.

00:54:56.100 Right?

00:54:56.440 Like, that is, like, basically where I think her position is.

00:54:58.980 I think so, too.

00:54:59.520 And there's an argument to be made.

00:55:01.240 There's some smart national policy-type conservatives or international policy conservatives who say this is the direction it should go.

00:55:07.700 I just see the risk as way too high.

00:55:09.580 Yeah, me too.

00:55:10.220 The gain's not high enough.

00:55:12.440 I'm not saying that, like, hey, let's just let Russia overrun Ukraine and – I don't think that's the right answer either.

00:55:18.500 I don't think that would be good.

00:55:20.160 But our goal cannot be the exact same goal as Ukraine in this situation.

00:55:26.920 Our goal is different because our interests are different.

00:55:29.860 Our interests are not, hey, they need to have full control of Crimea.

00:55:33.880 That is the right thing.

00:55:35.560 Yeah.

00:55:35.740 I think morally speaking, it is correct.

00:55:38.660 They should have control of that region.

00:55:40.260 It was their territory and it was taken from them.

00:55:42.640 But that is not our interest.

00:55:44.280 We have to be pragmatic in these moments, not just say, hey, well, this is – we're going to keep giving them money.

00:55:50.660 Unlimited time.

00:55:52.040 Unlimited money.

00:55:53.360 Unlimited everything.

00:55:54.920 For an unlimited period of time that drags into the 2030s and 40s.

00:55:59.720 I mean, that can't be the answer here.

00:56:01.140 Can't.

00:56:01.540 All right, let's go to Bill in Michigan.

00:56:04.120 Hey, Bill, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.

00:56:07.360 Hi there.

00:56:08.100 I just had some opinions on the debate.

00:56:10.480 I think DeSantis needs to man up a little bit, take his shirt off, ride a horse bareback or something,

00:56:15.680 just to give a little bit more masculine-type feel to him.

00:56:18.780 I don't know if he has the abs for that.

00:56:20.060 I'm not sure.

00:56:20.740 We'll have to check that out.

00:56:22.320 If you put him in the octagon with Nikki Haley, Warwarn, or Nikki Haley, I think she'd probably beat him up.

00:56:26.440 He doesn't seem like a weak guy.

00:56:31.900 He was in the military.

00:56:33.160 My 87-year-old mother thought he thinks he's sort of wimpy.

00:56:38.260 Now, the vague needs to quit smiling.

00:56:40.120 Otherwise, he just comes off as that schoolyard brat kid you just want to punch in the face.

00:56:44.020 Ronald McDaniel needs to go because she's clueless on what's going on,

00:56:48.940 and Trump needs to be less decisive or divisive,

00:56:53.240 and we bring more people into the fold as far as the Democrats.

00:56:56.580 We are all Trump.

00:56:58.240 Targeted republic under malicious people,

00:57:00.660 and I think he should be pushing to bring people together under that to bring more of the Democrats on board.

00:57:06.300 But Ronald McDaniel's definitely got to go.

00:57:08.320 I've heard some long-shot pleas in my life.

00:57:10.520 The idea that Donald Trump is going to be this big uniter, it's not a schtick, right?

00:57:16.040 That's not what he does.

00:57:17.120 I don't think at 77 years old, all of a sudden he's going to be like,

00:57:20.060 you know what?

00:57:21.440 Kumbaya, let's all sing together.

00:57:23.460 And that's not what he does.

00:57:24.740 He gets people passionate,

00:57:26.120 and he needs to get 50.1% of those people to be really passionate and come out and vote for him.

00:57:32.620 Amber in Florida.

00:57:34.120 Hi.

00:57:34.520 You're on the Glenn Beck program with Patton Stu.

00:57:37.220 Hi.

00:57:37.560 Thanks for taking my call.

00:57:39.020 I'm a constitutional conservative,

00:57:41.080 so I'm not rallying behind one candidate at this point.

00:57:44.120 But the reality of this debate is that it was a race for VP and not president.

00:57:48.560 And they need to play into the wheelhouse of the current leader of the GOP, which is Donald Trump.

00:57:53.920 So the winner of this debate that brought attention to truth,

00:57:58.120 and I believe that that was Vivek Ramaswamy,

00:58:00.180 and he did it when he called out NBC.

00:58:02.640 He did it when he called out Nikki Haley on being part of the military-industrial complex.

00:58:07.500 And he did it when he called out the pay-for-play corruption of the current president with Ukraine.

00:58:12.160 I think that's, I think he, look, Vivek is the most, most divisive candidates among conservatives that I've ever seen.

00:58:24.500 I mentioned this earlier, but it's true in that people either love the guy or can't stand the guy.

00:58:30.880 I don't know what it is.

00:58:31.480 I mean, I honestly don't feel that way about him.

00:58:33.520 And it's been that way for months now.

00:58:34.740 I don't love him or hate him.

00:58:35.840 I think he has some good things to say.

00:58:37.980 He's decent.

00:58:38.720 He's been on the show.

00:58:39.440 I like him.

00:58:40.720 I just don't, there is that real line.

00:58:43.780 People either see him as really fake.

00:58:45.580 I know he's a busy guy, though.

00:58:46.380 He's a busy, busy man who has no time for a morning show.

00:58:52.060 At least not an early morning show, because this show does happen live in the morning.

00:58:58.260 Yeah, but he's been on many times.

00:58:59.760 I'm here on this show, but on Pat Gray Unleashed, which is from 6 to 8 Central.

00:59:04.580 Couldn't make it.

00:59:05.160 Too busy that time of day.

00:59:06.520 That's a very busy time for him.

00:59:07.660 Very, very busy.

00:59:08.820 And we even, I even said, look, you know what we could do is tape the interview later in the day.

00:59:17.060 Wow.

00:59:17.600 If 6 to 8 is not good.

00:59:18.580 Well, he's busy at that time of day, too.

00:59:20.140 He's too busy at that time of day, as well.

00:59:21.020 He's busy early and late.

00:59:22.020 If you have another slot.

00:59:22.840 What if it's somewhat early, but not late?

00:59:25.780 No, he's busy that time of day, too.

00:59:28.400 Yeah, this is a big brunch date.

00:59:29.900 That day.

00:59:31.020 And he's doing his hair.

00:59:32.560 That's all.

00:59:33.080 Yeah, and he's got good hair.

00:59:34.520 He does.

00:59:35.700 He does.

00:59:36.360 Fascinating.

00:59:36.940 Really, I don't know what it is about Ramaswamy where he just hits people that way.

00:59:41.360 It's weird.

00:59:41.940 Again, the VP thing, I think, is interesting.

00:59:44.360 I don't think everyone on stage is running for VP.

00:59:47.500 Ron DeSantis is not running for VP because there's no chance he will get VP.

00:59:51.160 No chance.

00:59:51.200 I don't think Nikki Haley's doing that.

00:59:52.740 I don't think Chris Christie is certainly not doing that.

00:59:55.540 And Vivek brings nothing to the table for Trump.

00:59:57.600 So, it's unlikely to me that he would be the pick for vice president.

01:00:03.520 What's he going to bring to the table?

01:00:05.660 You need somebody who's going to help you in a swing state.

01:00:08.920 Maybe.

01:00:09.520 I mean, first of all, his home state is Ohio, right?

01:00:11.640 So, I mean, I don't know if you don't really need him in Ohio anymore.

01:00:14.480 That was a swing state in 2004, not really so much today.

01:00:17.680 But we did see the results from this week that were not positive.

01:00:21.080 So, maybe it's something to keep on the table.

01:00:22.700 Bigger, though, I think what Trump wants out of a – I don't know what Trump wants out of a VP.

01:00:26.160 I was just going to rant on this.

01:00:27.400 And God only knows because Mike Pence doesn't fit this at all.

01:00:30.580 But what it seems like he would want is someone who will go on television and argue passionately for his positions when he's not there to do it.

01:00:38.920 And Ramaswamy would be really good at doing that.

01:00:41.480 That's true.

01:00:41.500 He could do that.

01:00:42.080 Because he doesn't care at all.

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01:02:18.460 Let's go to Jeff in Florida.

01:02:20.140 Hey, Jeff.

01:02:21.160 Welcome.

01:02:22.560 Howdy, howdy.

01:02:23.400 Hey.

01:02:23.560 I didn't think he was rambling at all, but just wore my battery down being on hold.

01:02:28.740 Listen, I went to the Trump rally last night in Miami-Dade County, the city of Hialeah, which is heavy, heavy Hispanic, predominantly Cuban.

01:02:40.000 Trump brought the masculinity.

01:02:42.060 I think if that was a question of what the other candidates might be looked at when you were talking about the debate, there was no doubt about that last night.

01:02:49.800 Trump arrived, he delivered a great speech, the crowd was, it was, the place was packed, full of energy, and he did go on the immigration thing.

01:03:00.120 I mentioned Hialeah and the Cubans' immigration about Trump saying, let's, we have to remove people, and the crowd erupted with applause.

01:03:09.200 That was a big moment in that.

01:03:10.960 That's great.

01:03:11.420 Now, Jeff, you were, so you were there?

01:03:13.360 Yep.

01:03:13.540 There was a lot of, maybe you said it was packed, a lot of people were posting pictures of it not being quite packed.

01:03:19.600 Was that, was that BS?

01:03:20.760 Were people lying about that?

01:03:22.520 Well, it depends on what time of day you pack it.

01:03:24.760 It was, it was at a, at a.

01:03:26.560 That's what I wondered.

01:03:28.080 A stadium where you have football games.

01:03:30.900 Okay.

01:03:31.040 You know, they had a standing room only area.

01:03:33.000 They had the bleachers, and this is South Florida in November.

01:03:37.520 The sun's shining on one side of the bleachers.

01:03:39.780 You know, we're not going to go stand there in the sun for a couple hours.

01:03:43.040 But, yeah, the side was in the shade, was packed, and then as the sun went below the, the horizon of the, the bleach on our side, the other stands were packed.

01:03:52.640 The whole place was packed.

01:03:53.780 Wow.

01:03:54.160 That makes sense.

01:03:54.920 Yeah, because that's, the big story, the takeaway from the press on that last night was that there was a lot of empty seats.

01:04:00.880 Yeah.

01:04:01.660 That is what they said.

01:04:02.520 That's interesting.

01:04:03.060 And I will say, as a person who's gone to many Texas Rangers games in the old stadium in the middle of the summer, that's how the stadium would look.

01:04:10.420 One side is completely empty, and the other side in the shade is completely packed because it was just so hot.

01:04:14.900 Although, November, I mean, November isn't, is it that hot in Florida?

01:04:18.240 I went to a BYU game at, in Austin, at the University of Texas a couple of weeks ago.

01:04:23.640 Oh, yeah.

01:04:23.840 And, uh, it was 86 degrees, and the sun was beating right in my face the whole game.

01:04:29.960 Yeah, I didn't want to sit there.

01:04:31.240 I, I was wishing I would have stayed home because it is miserable.

01:04:35.680 So, yeah, it's kind of understandable that people wouldn't stand there for a couple of hours in the Miami heat.

01:04:42.380 That's just not fun.

01:04:43.300 And, you know, it's probably humid there, too, I would, I would suspect.

01:04:47.520 So, uh, that's an interesting perspective for somebody who was actually there, that it was packed, and that there weren't a lot of empty seats.

01:04:54.260 Uh, let's go to Mark in Florida.

01:04:55.980 Hey, Mark.

01:04:57.300 Oh, hello, Pat and Sue.

01:04:59.180 Hey.

01:04:59.360 I would like to say one thing about last night's debates.

01:05:01.500 You know, it's funny how all these Republicans are running with all the ideas that Trump did already, making America energy independent, safe borders, protecting America, and stopping wars from happening, the lowest GDP, the lowest unemployment, the lowest inflation.

01:05:15.100 Now, when you think about all these candidates, do you want a copy, or do you want the original back in office?

01:05:20.140 And my question to you guys is this.

01:05:22.100 Which one of these candidates do you think will hit the ground running, accomplishing all these, uh, uh, achievements?

01:05:27.920 I don't think we're going to brag about the lowest GDP.

01:05:30.040 I don't know, that's actually, uh, you want the highest one.

01:05:33.260 Um, but look, that's the argument for Trump, right?

01:05:35.460 He's done it already, and if you believe he accomplished all of those things, you're going to vote for him.

01:05:39.120 He's already got those people, right?

01:05:40.340 Yeah, but I also believe DeSantis is capable of that.

01:05:44.380 I think he could hit the ground running, but I don't know.

01:05:47.700 I haven't decided.

01:05:48.480 I haven't made up my mind yet, and that's what the primary process is all about.

01:05:51.540 I've already made up my mind for Doug Burgum.

01:05:53.360 Have you really?

01:05:53.900 Burgum meant him all the way.

01:05:54.980 What about, uh, Asa Hutchinson?

01:05:56.780 Asa Hutchinson.

01:05:57.820 What about that?

01:05:59.020 He's going to make his run.

01:06:00.100 People aren't talking about that.

01:06:01.160 I know.

01:06:01.580 The Hutchinson run is right around the corner.

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01:07:45.640 We're talking about the debate.

01:07:47.820 Let me quickly just mention this Harry Dunn situation, the Capitol Police Officer.

01:07:53.720 You want to check out the latest on The Blaze about him.

01:07:58.640 And Glenn's got a special coming up on this.

01:08:01.500 But he lied repeatedly and ridiculously on the stand, on the witness stand.

01:08:10.500 The guy's mentally ill, left out a whole bunch of issues that he faces.

01:08:15.800 And so check that out at TheBlaze.com right now.

01:08:19.400 And then watch the Blaze for when that comes out.

01:08:27.580 Because Glenn's...

01:08:28.900 Doesn't he have a special on this coming up?

01:08:31.740 I'm not sure.

01:08:32.280 Seems like I just read about that this morning.

01:08:33.860 All right.

01:08:35.700 We got the debate situation from last night, which was, as we mentioned, I think, and I

01:08:42.880 think you do too, Stu, the best so far, which is not saying an awful lot.

01:08:46.800 Very low hurdle to clear.

01:08:48.340 Very low.

01:08:48.840 But I do think they cleared it.

01:08:50.380 It was, you know, it was a good...

01:08:52.280 It wasn't a ton of back and forth other than the highly publicized...

01:08:54.640 No, because they wouldn't allow it.

01:08:56.420 ...moments, yeah.

01:08:57.660 Les Holt wouldn't allow it.

01:08:59.360 And honestly, I kind of understand the approach after the last one, which was completely catastrophic.

01:09:03.860 I mean, it was the worst debate I've ever seen in my life.

01:09:06.600 It was a cluster thing.

01:09:07.680 That's exactly what it was.

01:09:09.420 So I was happy to see at least some conversation.

01:09:12.700 Again, I think someone pointed this out a little earlier, one of the phone callers.

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01:09:20.960 This seems like everyone's just kind of running for vice president.

01:09:23.960 And there is that feel to it.

01:09:25.180 It doesn't have the energy.

01:09:26.240 It doesn't have the juice of a normal debate season because Trump has decided not to do it.

01:09:31.740 And, you know, when they're, in one case, 47 points, I think, behind in one of the polls.

01:09:37.820 That's not typical.

01:09:38.880 But they're 30-plus points behind.

01:09:42.240 Even the closest candidate to Donald Trump is so far behind him that you're like, okay, they don't have a chance.

01:09:50.220 Yeah.

01:09:50.500 I mean...

01:09:50.780 They don't have a chance.

01:09:51.460 DeSantis is a good 30 points behind in Iowa.

01:09:54.040 And that's the one where everyone says, well, it's a lot closer in Iowa.

01:09:56.060 It is closer in Iowa, but it's still 30 points.

01:09:59.400 Now, he did get this big endorsement from the Iowa governor that we mentioned earlier.

01:10:02.480 Yeah, so maybe that'll help.

01:10:03.400 That'll probably help at some level.

01:10:05.780 I don't know how much.

01:10:07.320 But, you know, endorsements don't typically make massive differences, but it could move the polls a little bit.

01:10:13.300 You still have...

01:10:14.140 Haley is in second place in New Hampshire and South Carolina now.

01:10:18.760 Of course, South Carolina is going to be one of her best-performing states, you'd think,

01:10:22.960 considering she's the former governor of the state.

01:10:26.360 But still, if you looked at this kind of in normal terms, you'd still look at this race and think it's not really a race.

01:10:34.060 I mean, when the best days of RFK Jr. in the Democratic primary looked somewhat similar to where the Republican primary is right now.

01:10:43.700 I mean, you know, like, RFK Jr. never really was consistent around 20%.

01:10:47.060 He only had one poll that was there.

01:10:48.360 But if you look at him around 20% and you say, well, DeSantis is also around 20%, that gap is large.

01:10:56.900 So, I don't know.

01:10:58.880 And, of course, you still have the RFK Jr. independent candidacy, which is going to...

01:11:03.000 Who knows what that's going to do?

01:11:04.400 I think more polls have showed it's going to hurt Biden than Trump, but there have been examples where it hurts Trump as well.

01:11:09.860 I have no idea what's going to happen on that one.

01:11:11.620 Yeah, it's scary.

01:11:12.320 Yeah.

01:11:12.420 Too many conservatives have been hoodwinked by that guy because he's good on a couple of issues.

01:11:18.760 Yeah, he is good on a couple of issues.

01:11:19.760 He's really good.

01:11:21.240 If you didn't like what happened during the pandemic, he's really good on that.

01:11:24.980 He's really good on the border right now, but he hasn't always been.

01:11:27.660 That's a new flavor.

01:11:28.780 I don't know where that came from.

01:11:30.160 He's really, really bad on abortion, on climate change.

01:11:36.380 I mean, he wanted to execute Glenn Beck.

01:11:39.800 And Rush Limbaugh.

01:11:40.440 And Rush Limbaugh.

01:11:42.200 I mean, so...

01:11:43.540 That was a real thing that happened.

01:11:45.360 It was a real thing.

01:11:46.180 Also, I would say...

01:11:47.080 He hasn't come on the show, by the way, has he?

01:11:48.900 No.

01:11:49.140 He did answer...

01:11:49.720 Glenn did a collection of questions to all the candidates.

01:11:55.180 Including him.

01:11:55.820 Including him.

01:11:56.520 And he did answer them.

01:11:57.380 And Glenn liked a lot of his answers.

01:11:59.200 You know, I...

01:12:00.100 Well, that's the thing.

01:12:00.980 I mean, he can trick you.

01:12:02.220 He's kind of...

01:12:02.700 You know what he is?

01:12:03.160 He's basically an old school Democrat.

01:12:05.340 That's really what he is.

01:12:06.300 That's true.

01:12:06.520 If you go back to the 60s and 70s, you'd find a lot of people who...

01:12:09.440 Surprising in the Kennedy family, because they're all old school.

01:12:12.480 Yeah, they're all school.

01:12:13.120 Except for Ted.

01:12:14.180 But JFK and RFK.

01:12:17.220 Go back and look at...

01:12:18.200 Those are old school guys.

01:12:19.140 You were the one that brought this to my attention, I don't know, probably five or ten years ago now.

01:12:23.660 But the clip of Harry Reid going off on the border in the 90s...

01:12:28.420 Right.

01:12:28.920 I mean, the guy sounded...

01:12:29.740 Sounds like a Republican.

01:12:30.440 Like a Republican.

01:12:31.500 There was a time...

01:12:32.660 Same with Chuckie Schumer back in the early 2000s.

01:12:34.920 Yeah.

01:12:35.320 There was a time where Democrats took the border seriously.

01:12:38.040 Not because they care about the border, but because they care about union jobs.

01:12:42.200 And they were worried about union jobs being undercut.

01:12:44.260 That was the position of the Democratic Party for a long time.

01:12:46.740 He maintains it.

01:12:47.700 RFK Jr. just maintains that same position.

01:12:49.840 He's also very similar to 60s and 70s Democrats when it comes to war.

01:12:56.820 That whole era of Democrats were anti-war basically at all costs.

01:13:02.760 Shrink the military.

01:13:04.440 This is who RFK Jr. is.

01:13:06.740 And so, look, he's good on a ton of things.

01:13:09.240 And they're certainly not there now.

01:13:11.020 Yeah.

01:13:11.280 He seems to be good on Bitcoin, for example.

01:13:13.020 How real is that?

01:13:13.760 I don't know.

01:13:14.380 I mean, I don't know whether to trust the guy on some of the things that...

01:13:16.880 You can trust him that he really doesn't like vaccines.

01:13:18.980 That's been fundamental to who he is for a very long time.

01:13:23.100 You can trust him on that.

01:13:24.360 And if that's what you're voting on, then you're probably going to like RFK quite a bit.

01:13:27.320 But you probably already liked him for a long time.

01:13:30.660 You know, I don't know how he's appealing to conservatives outside of that one issue,

01:13:36.020 which is obviously just a brand new issue for conservatives.

01:13:38.860 That's always been a left-leaning viewpoint.

01:13:42.040 There's been conservatives who have been there.

01:13:44.380 I'm not saying there's been none.

01:13:45.780 But overall, you're talking about people like Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey.

01:13:49.280 And, you know, that's been the collection of people who were really passionate about that

01:13:54.060 and one issue voters on that particular topic largely were more left in the past until COVID.

01:13:59.680 So that's, you know, I'm not surprised he made some inroads there.

01:14:02.200 But do I think he's going to get 22% as an independent?

01:14:04.900 No, I do not.

01:14:05.320 No.

01:14:05.620 I don't think that's actually going to hold up.

01:14:06.900 We'll see.

01:14:07.340 Right.

01:14:08.240 Mike in Maryland.

01:14:09.660 Hi, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.

01:14:11.900 Hey, how you doing?

01:14:12.920 Good.

01:14:13.060 I'm very concerned about inflation, and nobody's mentioning it.

01:14:19.140 If you take these four items that I heard an economist talking about,

01:14:25.540 it was the electric, the gas in your car, your food, and the heating oil for your home.

01:14:32.200 They're all going up after the first of the year, an average of 7.5%.

01:14:37.600 Now, he gives the people that depend on Social Security 3.2%.

01:14:45.020 They are way behind before they even start.

01:14:48.100 You're going to see old people with tents sitting in the streets.

01:14:52.340 At least you won't have needles out there.

01:14:54.720 You'll have depends.

01:14:58.060 Nice.

01:14:58.680 That's a new problem.

01:15:00.000 Thanks, Mike.

01:15:01.060 It's true.

01:15:01.960 It was not mentioned a lot.

01:15:02.860 Now, there's some understandable reasons for that, considering international affairs have

01:15:07.860 dominated the past month of coverage, so I understand why they may be led with international

01:15:11.860 affairs, but you're right.

01:15:13.160 This is the number one issue for Republicans.

01:15:14.980 It took about an hour to get to something domestic.

01:15:17.680 It was a long time.

01:15:19.100 Yep.

01:15:19.940 All right.

01:15:20.540 Let's go to Dwight in South Carolina.

01:15:22.380 Hey, Dwight.

01:15:24.440 Hi, guys.

01:15:25.840 Hi.

01:15:26.040 Enjoying your show.

01:15:27.060 Thank you.

01:15:27.440 Thank you.

01:15:27.680 The one thing that I wanted to point out is that the United States made a promise to

01:15:33.940 Ukraine back when Ronald Reagan was president, when Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.

01:15:38.760 Nikki Haley pointed that out and did it very well.

01:15:41.340 She did.

01:15:42.060 And for us to abandon Ukraine at this time is just wrong.

01:15:48.520 The other thing is, the way that we support them is with use of weapons, not with money.

01:15:54.720 Money is just an easy way to corrupt themselves.

01:15:58.560 Yes.

01:15:58.760 And we see that every day.

01:16:00.540 And that is a point, again, that came from Nikki Haley.

01:16:03.820 We use proper support.

01:16:06.680 Nobody makes that support from the stage about Israel.

01:16:10.300 And trust me, I think we should support Israel.

01:16:13.520 But when we're talking about Ukraine, I really think that's a bigger deal than Israel is, because

01:16:19.500 it's about a domino effect in Europe.

01:16:24.920 Israel, of course, is a single nation.

01:16:27.000 But when we're talking about Ukraine, you're talking about the next country in line in NATO.

01:16:34.160 So let's defend them before it gets to NATO.

01:16:37.340 Look, I think there being a buffer state between Russia and NATO is in our interests.

01:16:43.980 Again, it's not about letting Russia overrun everybody in Ukraine.

01:16:49.640 I mean, that...

01:16:50.180 No, it's not about abandoning them necessarily.

01:16:53.740 It's trying to end this thing somehow as quickly as possible, because you don't know how it's

01:16:57.640 going to escalate.

01:16:58.400 And yes, you know, you could say, well, we don't want to send money.

01:17:01.220 We want to send weapons.

01:17:02.240 And like, I get that.

01:17:03.440 You're right.

01:17:03.960 I mean, it's better in some ways.

01:17:06.140 But it also is worse in some ways, because Russia is a nuclear superpower on...

01:17:13.900 They have more nuclear weapons than we do.

01:17:16.320 And they are seeing a situation...

01:17:19.060 Thanks to the START Treaty, by the way.

01:17:20.420 They are seeing a situation in which we are supplying weapons that are killing their soldiers.

01:17:26.340 Yeah.

01:17:26.620 Now, I understand...

01:17:28.140 That's how this leads to World War III.

01:17:29.600 That's how it leads to World War III.

01:17:30.680 Yeah.

01:17:31.000 I mean, like, they, at some point, especially if they start losing, Vladimir Putin's going

01:17:38.480 to look for a way to escalate this, because he can't lose.

01:17:41.480 He cannot lose this fight.

01:17:43.700 You can't.

01:17:44.320 Mm-hmm.

01:17:44.920 So, look, it's in our interest to not to let them get overrun and have a bunch of people

01:17:50.080 be murdered, but it is in our interest to try to get this over as quickly as possible.

01:17:54.300 And the Middle East is incredibly important.

01:17:56.140 And Israel is a huge ally, probably second only to Great Britain.

01:18:03.540 And there are some other responsibilities there to Israel, as far as I'm concerned.

01:18:07.600 As a Christian person, we've got some responsibilities there, biblically speaking.

01:18:13.300 There's people who disagree with that, of course.

01:18:15.660 But it's also strategically incredibly important in the Middle East.

01:18:20.680 So, and not to mention the fact that we've got 20 hostages in the hands of Hamas.

01:18:28.980 Yeah.

01:18:29.500 And our soldiers have been attacked by Iranian forces and Iranian proxies in the Middle East.

01:18:38.300 And we've, there's been, what, 40 injured troops who are U.S. troops on bases in Syria being

01:18:47.320 attacked by Iran and their proxies in Hamas.

01:18:51.900 So, we do have American interest in Israel.

01:18:56.180 And by the way, just another recommendation, if you happen to be running a small to moderate

01:19:00.600 sized country that's a nuclear power, don't give up your nuclear weapons, even when America

01:19:04.460 asks you to.

01:19:05.620 Because, I will tell you, nothing good comes.

01:19:09.160 It's true.

01:19:09.620 This situation would be much better if Ukraine had just kept their nuclear weapons.

01:19:14.340 Yeah.

01:19:14.820 Because, and I know that's, that was controversial.

01:19:17.060 Somewhat of a deterrent, though.

01:19:18.400 It is a deterrent.

01:19:19.640 These countries don't get overrun.

01:19:22.200 Mm-hmm.

01:19:23.160 Once you have them, you don't want to give them up.

01:19:25.360 This is why we want to prevent people like Iran from getting them.

01:19:30.280 Right?

01:19:30.860 Yeah.

01:19:30.980 The only country who has ever given them up, really, because, I mean,

01:19:34.400 Ukraine's a weird situation.

01:19:35.660 They were technically the Soviet, and they were splitting from the Soviet Union.

01:19:39.260 So, in a way, they weren't theirs, but I would have held on to them if I were Ukraine.

01:19:42.940 South Africa is the only one who's ever done it.

01:19:45.420 They just gave them up.

01:19:46.100 And again, they're not in a region where it's necessarily all that important.

01:19:49.080 But you don't give them up once you get them, because this sort of stuff can happen

01:19:52.300 to you.

01:19:52.900 Mm-hmm.

01:19:53.060 And Ukraine is facing the ramifications of that decision many years later.

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01:21:14.820 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:21:29.540 Hey, welcome.

01:21:36.400 Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

01:21:38.120 Big reactions from last night's debate.

01:21:39.860 Tons of phone calls.

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01:21:43.940 We have time to take another.

01:21:45.240 Let's go with Jay in New York.

01:21:47.380 Jay, welcome to the Glenn Beck Program with Pat and Stu.

01:21:50.460 Hey, Pat and Stu.

01:21:51.420 Good to talk to you.

01:21:52.180 Great to talk to you.

01:21:52.840 Hey, guys.

01:21:53.500 Hey, guys.

01:21:53.880 I did watch the debate last night, but I kind of want to pivot a little bit.

01:21:57.100 But how come I don't hear more people talking about what we're doing to prevent the election

01:22:03.260 from being stolen again?

01:22:04.680 That's a good question.

01:22:06.300 Like in 2020.

01:22:08.060 I mean, it was pretty conclusive that they produced midnight votes via mail-in ballots.

01:22:14.900 I think you've touched on Stu's favorite topic.

01:22:17.840 Well, here's my issue, and I appreciate the call, Jay.

01:22:20.660 And it's a question that a lot of people have, so it's good to talk about.

01:22:23.760 But, like, I think we should do more as Republicans, or if you are a Republican, I'm actually not

01:22:29.480 a registered Republican.

01:22:30.620 I'm just a conservative.

01:22:31.640 But we should be encouraging our base to get out the vote, to gather up people like Democrats

01:22:40.160 do and take them to the polls and make sure they can vote, too.

01:22:43.540 We should be doing like-minded things.

01:22:46.540 Even if they didn't steal the election, let's do the things that get mass amounts of people

01:22:52.760 to the polls.

01:22:53.800 Well, I guess my- this is- you're highlighting, I think, how- where my concern comes in on

01:22:58.680 this point, Pat.

01:22:59.560 Okay.

01:22:59.780 Which is, why?

01:23:02.120 Why should we do the things you just recommended?

01:23:04.720 Why?

01:23:05.100 What's the point of that?

01:23:06.420 So that we win?

01:23:08.400 But do you win?

01:23:09.760 Because if you're convinced that every election is going to be stolen, there's no real point

01:23:13.540 in going out and voting, right?

01:23:15.340 Because it's going to get stolen from you.

01:23:16.620 I don't buy into that, necessarily.

01:23:18.420 No, I know.

01:23:18.860 I think a lot of people say, okay, well, maybe it happened last time.

01:23:21.440 Honestly, like, if-

01:23:23.140 I think there were problems.

01:23:24.880 I mean, if you've watched Dinesh D'Souza's 2,000 Mules, you know there were some problems.

01:23:29.580 But I think the question is whether you're talking about it or not.

01:23:33.040 Now, the right thing to do is, obviously, places like Georgia and Texas have passed really

01:23:37.600 good laws that have helped, I think, the security of the vote going forward.

01:23:41.740 And I think that's the right thing to do.

01:23:43.000 But you have to realize that a lot of these states that people are concerned that were stolen

01:23:46.880 last time have Democrats in control and have had Democrats in control ever since the last

01:23:51.040 one was stolen.

01:23:52.060 So if you get to that point where it can become a sort of defeatist loop, right, where you're

01:23:57.400 thinking only about the election being stolen and not getting people out.

01:24:00.260 If the election is going to be stolen, we're all screwed.

01:24:03.080 Yeah.

01:24:03.260 We're all screwed.

01:24:03.920 There's probably no way to stop it because Democrats have control of enough states to be

01:24:08.420 able to take this at every state.

01:24:09.460 So the better way to go forward is to do everything you can to protect the election and the election

01:24:16.360 integrity.

01:24:17.220 But in addition, act as if none of that's going to happen and do the best job you can do to

01:24:23.300 get people out to the polls and all the things that Pat just suggested.

01:24:26.260 Because if they're going to steal it, you're probably screwed anyway.

01:24:29.560 If they're not, you need people.

01:24:31.600 I'll tell you, in Ohio, Republicans just didn't come out.

01:24:35.900 That was the problem in Ohio.

01:24:37.340 It wasn't because abortion is unpopular.

01:24:39.980 It was because pro-life side is unpopular in Ohio.

01:24:43.340 It was because Republicans did not get activated in Ohio.

01:24:46.180 They were outspent and did not get activated and did not show up to vote for life.

01:24:50.580 That's bad.

01:24:51.860 That's really bad.

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01:27:41.580 All right

01:27:46.600 Your thoughts on

01:27:47.600 We haven't gotten to

01:27:48.400 The abortion aspect

01:27:49.500 Yet

01:27:49.980 Of

01:27:50.460 Of the debate last night

01:27:52.320 Which was

01:27:52.800 Interesting

01:27:53.940 Fascinating

01:27:55.460 It's a fascinating moment

01:27:56.640 In that debate

01:27:57.820 In the pro-life

01:27:58.660 Movement

01:27:59.700 It's a fascinating

01:28:00.800 Moment

01:28:01.300 And you know

01:28:02.720 You see some people

01:28:03.380 Kind of

01:28:03.680 Getting

01:28:05.220 Some would say

01:28:06.240 Squishy

01:28:07.240 On the issue

01:28:08.080 And others

01:28:08.580 Trying to hold the line

01:28:09.760 But it's

01:28:10.080 You think Nikki Haley

01:28:11.160 Was squishy

01:28:11.640 I do think

01:28:12.580 She's squishy

01:28:13.100 On the issue

01:28:13.580 I do too

01:28:14.180 She does not want

01:28:14.900 To actually say

01:28:15.600 What she wants to do

01:28:16.480 Right

01:28:16.860 I will tell you

01:28:17.660 If I get a bill

01:28:18.500 I'll sign it

01:28:19.080 But we don't have 60 votes

01:28:19.960 Well we know you don't

01:28:20.480 Have 60 votes

01:28:21.100 That's not what we're asking

01:28:21.860 Whether you can get it

01:28:22.660 Done tomorrow

01:28:23.240 We understand

01:28:24.060 And also

01:28:25.200 It's not even the way

01:28:26.260 To do it

01:28:26.740 Right

01:28:27.000 It's not

01:28:27.580 You're not gonna

01:28:27.980 It's unclear at all

01:28:30.260 Whether a 15 week

01:28:31.420 Or 18 week

01:28:32.280 Or 2 week ban

01:28:33.300 Whatever the thing is

01:28:34.480 That you'd pass

01:28:34.960 At the national level

01:28:35.620 Would actually be

01:28:36.620 Constitutional

01:28:37.480 It seems to be

01:28:38.460 It probably isn't

01:28:38.900 Quite clear

01:28:39.400 It wasn't

01:28:40.120 By the Dobbs ruling

01:28:41.440 They basically said

01:28:42.360 It's a state's issue

01:28:43.180 States get to deal with it

01:28:44.680 Right

01:28:45.120 So what you would

01:28:46.060 Have to do then

01:28:46.880 Is amend the

01:28:48.760 U.S. Constitution

01:28:49.600 Right

01:28:49.980 Which by the way

01:28:50.780 We should be fighting

01:28:51.340 For every day

01:28:51.880 In my view

01:28:52.260 Me too

01:28:53.060 Me too

01:28:54.180 That's the way

01:28:55.820 To deal with it

01:28:56.380 Either you believe

01:28:57.580 That babies should be

01:28:59.400 Born

01:29:00.320 Or you don't

01:29:01.800 Right

01:29:02.360 Seems to me

01:29:03.520 To be a

01:29:04.280 Black and white issue

01:29:05.460 Yeah

01:29:05.840 Now I will say

01:29:06.440 There is a

01:29:06.960 Pretty strong

01:29:08.420 Political argument

01:29:09.460 To be made

01:29:10.840 That you know

01:29:11.620 Look this could hurt

01:29:12.740 Republicans in these

01:29:13.940 Elections

01:29:14.500 I talked to

01:29:15.600 Megyn Kelly yesterday

01:29:16.540 On her program

01:29:17.420 And you know

01:29:18.060 She made that point

01:29:18.920 And it is

01:29:19.400 A valid one

01:29:20.460 It's a concerning

01:29:21.260 One for Republican

01:29:22.320 Candidates

01:29:23.220 To try to figure out

01:29:24.980 How

01:29:25.400 To go down the line

01:29:27.280 Now look

01:29:27.960 I don't think

01:29:29.340 Abortion was

01:29:30.120 Honestly that big

01:29:31.520 Of a factor

01:29:32.960 In what we saw

01:29:33.780 This week

01:29:34.360 You know

01:29:35.800 If you look at

01:29:36.540 Kentucky for example

01:29:37.980 And you look at

01:29:40.160 Bashir winning

01:29:40.900 In Kentucky

01:29:41.800 You'd say

01:29:42.160 Well it was abortion

01:29:42.940 And a lot of his ads

01:29:43.840 Were about abortion

01:29:44.580 Right

01:29:44.780 He tried to make it

01:29:45.560 Seem like

01:29:46.140 Cameron would

01:29:47.140 Basically

01:29:47.700 He would

01:29:48.600 Spend most of his

01:29:49.820 Mornings inside

01:29:50.860 Of women's wombs

01:29:52.180 Looking for children

01:29:53.400 Like that was

01:29:54.100 That was essentially

01:29:55.680 What they made it out

01:29:56.360 To be

01:29:56.580 However

01:29:57.080 Wasn't that a campaign

01:29:58.100 Promise from Cameron

01:29:58.940 Though

01:29:59.100 Yeah he did make

01:30:00.080 That promise

01:30:00.500 He'd spend most

01:30:01.580 Of his mornings

01:30:02.220 In women's wombs

01:30:03.600 It was his womb

01:30:06.240 Guarantee

01:30:06.820 That's how he

01:30:07.680 Branded it

01:30:08.320 But

01:30:10.360 If you look

01:30:12.200 At the actual

01:30:12.780 Fundamentals

01:30:13.380 Of that race

01:30:13.900 Bashir

01:30:15.260 Who's a democrat

01:30:16.020 And should not

01:30:16.820 Be well liked

01:30:17.560 By Republican

01:30:18.460 Voters

01:30:19.300 In Kentucky

01:30:20.440 Has a 60%

01:30:22.300 Approval rating

01:30:22.980 In Kentucky

01:30:23.500 The fact that he

01:30:24.220 Won that election

01:30:25.180 Is not a surprise

01:30:26.060 And if you look

01:30:26.920 At the other

01:30:27.500 Candidates

01:30:28.620 Who were up

01:30:29.180 For election

01:30:29.660 Republicans

01:30:30.160 Did very well

01:30:31.100 Winning easily

01:30:31.780 In most cases

01:30:32.900 So this was

01:30:33.800 Virginia was the

01:30:34.680 Big problem

01:30:35.640 But Virginia

01:30:36.240 I don't think

01:30:36.900 Look

01:30:37.340 And I don't know

01:30:37.900 If it was abortion

01:30:38.500 There

01:30:38.820 Virginia

01:30:39.440 I think Ohio

01:30:41.400 Is the most central

01:30:42.200 To abortion

01:30:42.680 We'll get to that

01:30:43.040 In a second

01:30:43.320 But Virginia

01:30:44.200 Is a

01:30:45.260 Let's be honest

01:30:45.960 About what

01:30:46.300 Virginia is

01:30:46.940 Virginia is a

01:30:48.300 Blue state

01:30:49.040 That's what it is

01:30:49.680 It is now

01:30:50.160 Okay

01:30:50.400 It's a blue state

01:30:51.220 It's not a purple state

01:30:52.140 With a Republican governor

01:30:53.240 Right

01:30:53.580 It's got a Republican governor

01:30:54.800 Who overperformed

01:30:56.200 One time

01:30:57.240 And the losses

01:30:58.980 That have happened here

01:31:00.020 Are coming off

01:31:01.060 Of very good results

01:31:02.040 Previously

01:31:02.560 That's not the norm

01:31:03.800 For Virginia

01:31:04.800 Virginia is going to be

01:31:06.660 A blue state

01:31:07.600 In 2024

01:31:08.280 I

01:31:09.700 You know

01:31:10.180 That's my guess

01:31:10.940 If I'm wrong

01:31:11.740 You can call me on it

01:31:12.700 It's not

01:31:13.660 It's not

01:31:13.700 It is not

01:31:14.580 A battleground state

01:31:15.560 The fact

01:31:16.320 This is a moderate

01:31:17.600 Voting base

01:31:18.240 That went for a

01:31:19.040 Moderate Republican

01:31:20.020 Candidate

01:31:20.720 And what do the

01:31:21.580 Republicans do there

01:31:22.460 They didn't go for

01:31:23.460 A ban on abortion

01:31:24.580 They went

01:31:25.420 For a 15 week

01:31:26.800 Limit

01:31:27.540 A 15 week limit

01:31:29.020 In Virginia

01:31:29.600 They didn't try to do

01:31:30.780 Anything extreme there

01:31:31.740 That's fairly reasonable

01:31:32.740 And it didn't even work

01:31:34.100 Now look

01:31:34.860 If you poll

01:31:35.640 Specifically

01:31:36.500 A 15 week ban

01:31:37.720 It actually polls

01:31:38.680 Pretty well

01:31:39.180 Because

01:31:39.980 About two-thirds

01:31:41.700 Of voters think

01:31:42.520 Really after the

01:31:43.960 First trimester

01:31:44.700 You're past your

01:31:46.260 Window here

01:31:46.800 This gets a little

01:31:47.520 Crazy

01:31:47.900 The second trimester

01:31:48.800 About 67%

01:31:50.360 Of voters

01:31:51.340 Across the board

01:31:52.260 Not just Republicans

01:31:53.020 Across the board

01:31:53.680 Say

01:31:54.440 Look

01:31:55.220 The second trimester

01:31:56.900 Should not be legal

01:31:57.900 First trimester

01:31:59.040 Sure

01:31:59.420 Second trimester

01:32:00.240 No

01:32:00.540 And certainly not

01:32:01.120 The third

01:32:01.720 Third trimester

01:32:02.260 What is that

01:32:02.600 80%

01:32:03.160 It's only 14%

01:32:04.860 Supported

01:32:05.320 I think it's

01:32:05.980 83-14

01:32:06.780 If I'm remembering

01:32:07.680 Correctly

01:32:08.200 For third trimester

01:32:09.620 So

01:32:10.260 These are

01:32:11.080 Wildly unpopular

01:32:12.200 Proposals

01:32:12.880 And what's

01:32:13.260 Interesting about

01:32:14.120 Ohio

01:32:15.800 Which is where

01:32:16.540 I think you can

01:32:16.940 Make the most

01:32:17.340 Central case

01:32:17.920 Obviously it was

01:32:18.540 A specific question

01:32:19.580 About this

01:32:20.060 There's a lot

01:32:21.020 Of asterisks

01:32:21.600 There you need

01:32:22.220 To point out

01:32:22.660 Number one

01:32:23.200 When you look

01:32:24.300 At who showed

01:32:24.980 Up in Ohio

01:32:25.840 It was not

01:32:27.100 The normal

01:32:27.760 Ohio voters

01:32:28.760 What happened

01:32:30.140 In Ohio

01:32:30.820 Was a state

01:32:32.260 That is

01:32:32.600 Trump plus eight

01:32:33.940 Into 2020

01:32:34.900 We won it

01:32:35.620 By eight points

01:32:36.360 The electorate

01:32:37.520 That showed up

01:32:38.340 On Tuesday

01:32:39.040 Was Biden

01:32:40.220 Plus two

01:32:40.960 What this means

01:32:42.540 Is republican

01:32:43.320 Voters were not

01:32:44.180 Activated

01:32:44.900 The democrats

01:32:45.780 Were inspired

01:32:46.500 To come out

01:32:47.160 In a total

01:32:47.840 Off your election

01:32:48.760 With nobody

01:32:49.560 On the ballot

01:32:50.020 No presidential

01:32:50.640 Election

01:32:50.980 No governor

01:32:51.520 Right

01:32:52.200 So they showed

01:32:53.420 Up to that election

01:32:54.060 It was a way

01:32:54.760 To activate

01:32:55.560 Democrats

01:32:56.460 In an election

01:32:57.660 They normally

01:32:58.160 Wouldn't care about

01:32:58.960 And that works

01:33:00.020 In 2023

01:33:00.980 Does that work

01:33:02.360 In 2024

01:33:03.220 Are there going to

01:33:04.100 Be a lot of democrats

01:33:04.860 Being like I don't know

01:33:05.860 I'm not interested

01:33:06.560 In this presidential

01:33:07.620 Election until they

01:33:08.420 Put a ballot

01:33:08.900 Initiative on

01:33:09.600 I don't think

01:33:10.340 That works at all

01:33:11.300 In a presidential

01:33:11.860 Year

01:33:12.260 We will see

01:33:13.120 If I'm wrong

01:33:13.600 On that

01:33:13.840 The other part

01:33:14.660 On this is

01:33:15.560 What's interesting

01:33:17.500 About the abortion

01:33:18.040 Issue

01:33:18.420 Is that neither

01:33:19.760 Party's stance

01:33:20.820 Is popular

01:33:21.540 Neither party

01:33:23.400 Has a popular

01:33:24.560 View when it comes

01:33:25.360 To this

01:33:25.620 And when it

01:33:26.000 Comes to normal

01:33:26.540 Voters

01:33:26.940 Democrats want

01:33:28.040 Nine month

01:33:28.500 Abortion

01:33:28.900 As I just

01:33:29.680 Mentioned

01:33:29.980 It's a 14%

01:33:31.220 Approval rating

01:33:31.800 On that

01:33:32.140 What would you

01:33:34.140 Say I mean

01:33:34.680 It's a little

01:33:35.160 More difficult

01:33:35.980 To say

01:33:36.500 The republican

01:33:37.140 Stance on this

01:33:37.760 As a party

01:33:38.440 But I would

01:33:39.140 Say it's

01:33:40.080 I would say

01:33:41.160 Let's say

01:33:42.160 Publicly forever

01:33:44.140 They were arguing

01:33:44.660 For a 20 week ban

01:33:45.720 The you know

01:33:46.960 Tim Scott

01:33:47.460 And lindsey

01:33:48.120 Graham are saying

01:33:48.580 15 week

01:33:49.360 There are a lot

01:33:50.860 Of people will say

01:33:51.440 Heartbeat bill

01:33:52.160 Almost everyone

01:33:53.800 In the republican

01:33:54.300 Party is going to

01:33:54.880 Say exceptions

01:33:55.540 For rape

01:33:56.060 And incest

01:33:56.700 And those types

01:33:58.040 Of things

01:33:58.460 Mother's life

01:33:59.400 In danger

01:33:59.740 So that's

01:34:01.300 Arguably their

01:34:02.020 Position

01:34:02.340 That position

01:34:03.700 Is

01:34:04.380 The 15 week

01:34:06.440 Ban is pretty

01:34:06.960 Popular

01:34:07.340 If you want

01:34:08.140 To say

01:34:08.360 The republican

01:34:08.820 Position is

01:34:09.460 As short

01:34:09.980 As possible

01:34:10.580 With the

01:34:10.960 Exceptions

01:34:11.520 You could

01:34:11.820 Say that's

01:34:12.240 Fair

01:34:12.460 And that

01:34:12.820 Position

01:34:13.080 Isn't

01:34:13.380 Particularly

01:34:13.760 Popular

01:34:14.140 But in

01:34:14.940 Ohio

01:34:15.260 A red

01:34:15.640 State

01:34:15.960 The democrats

01:34:16.960 Did not

01:34:17.480 Go for

01:34:18.760 A well

01:34:19.420 We would

01:34:19.840 Like a

01:34:20.500 20 week

01:34:22.280 You could

01:34:22.820 Go up

01:34:23.100 To 20

01:34:23.460 Weeks

01:34:23.840 What they

01:34:24.320 Went for

01:34:24.820 Was

01:34:25.520 Everything

01:34:26.200 That they

01:34:26.660 Wanted

01:34:27.020 They went

01:34:27.900 For

01:34:28.180 A california

01:34:29.560 illinois

01:34:30.320 New york

01:34:31.520 Message

01:34:32.300 They went

01:34:33.260 For

01:34:33.560 We want

01:34:34.480 Every abortion

01:34:35.500 To happen

01:34:36.260 That can

01:34:36.620 Possibly occur

01:34:37.520 We want

01:34:37.940 All babies

01:34:38.620 To be

01:34:38.900 Aborted

01:34:39.200 If it's

01:34:39.540 At all

01:34:39.760 Humanly

01:34:40.160 Possible

01:34:40.540 Can we

01:34:41.140 Abort

01:34:41.400 All of

01:34:41.720 Them

01:34:41.820 Why do

01:34:42.400 We need

01:34:42.640 These babies

01:34:43.180 They don't

01:34:43.460 Even

01:34:43.580 They don't

01:34:43.920 They can't

01:34:45.080 Vote

01:34:45.320 Screw

01:34:45.660 Them

01:34:46.020 They basically

01:34:47.300 Want everybody

01:34:47.780 To be

01:34:48.100 Aborted

01:34:48.360 It's true

01:34:48.520 Though

01:34:48.720 Babies

01:34:49.100 Can't

01:34:49.440 Vote

01:34:49.580 They can't

01:34:50.120 Vote

01:34:50.260 Yeah

01:34:50.420 They can't

01:34:50.840 Vote

01:34:51.180 Now

01:34:51.420 What's

01:34:52.220 Interesting

01:34:52.540 About what

01:34:52.920 They did

01:34:53.180 Is they hid

01:34:53.660 What they

01:34:54.400 Were doing

01:34:54.700 They went

01:34:55.220 For

01:34:55.480 100%

01:34:56.160 Of their

01:34:56.420 Desires

01:34:56.900 And then

01:34:57.940 Hid

01:34:58.320 Behind

01:34:58.780 Contraception

01:34:59.700 And

01:35:00.260 Miscarriage

01:35:01.060 Care

01:35:01.500 And

01:35:02.520 All sorts

01:35:03.500 Of bizarre

01:35:04.100 Things that

01:35:04.640 No one

01:35:05.100 Was fighting

01:35:05.500 Against them

01:35:06.040 On

01:35:06.260 They put

01:35:07.180 It all

01:35:07.460 In there

01:35:07.780 And hoped

01:35:08.360 That ohio

01:35:09.120 Voters

01:35:09.480 Number one

01:35:10.020 Wouldn't

01:35:10.280 Be activated

01:35:10.780 On the

01:35:11.040 Pro-life

01:35:11.380 Side

01:35:11.660 The ones

01:35:12.140 That knew

01:35:12.380 What was

01:35:12.860 Going on

01:35:13.300 And number

01:35:14.100 Two

01:35:14.380 The voters

01:35:14.840 That showed

01:35:15.320 Up

01:35:15.580 Out of

01:35:16.080 Nowhere

01:35:16.440 Would go

01:35:17.280 In and

01:35:17.660 Say wow

01:35:18.180 Well I

01:35:18.540 Don't

01:35:18.660 Want my

01:35:18.940 Contraception

01:35:19.760 To go

01:35:20.060 Away

01:35:20.300 And that's

01:35:20.680 Exactly

01:35:20.940 What happened

01:35:21.340 And that's

01:35:21.580 What happened

01:35:21.940 That's how

01:35:22.520 They want

01:35:22.820 That

01:35:22.940 So I

01:35:24.040 Would argue

01:35:24.480 None of

01:35:25.000 These three

01:35:25.440 Situations

01:35:25.980 Are really

01:35:26.580 Central

01:35:27.120 To abortion

01:35:28.460 Fundamentally

01:35:29.720 You know

01:35:30.540 The ohio

01:35:31.380 This is going

01:35:31.980 To be the

01:35:32.260 Tactic from

01:35:32.700 The left

01:35:33.000 And the

01:35:33.260 Republicans

01:35:33.620 Need to

01:35:33.960 Find a way

01:35:34.260 To fight

01:35:34.520 Back against

01:35:35.020 It and

01:35:35.260 They don't

01:35:35.540 Have it

01:35:35.880 Right now

01:35:36.240 And that's

01:35:36.740 A problem

01:35:37.160 They're always

01:35:38.540 So bad

01:35:39.140 At messaging

01:35:39.680 Horrible

01:35:40.240 Look what

01:35:41.160 The democrats

01:35:41.600 Did

01:35:41.900 They said

01:35:42.560 They convinced

01:35:43.540 People

01:35:43.980 That someone

01:35:44.880 Was out

01:35:45.420 Trying to

01:35:46.500 Stop their

01:35:47.000 Miscarriage

01:35:47.840 Care

01:35:48.260 Yeah come

01:35:48.860 On

01:35:49.100 Give me

01:35:49.780 A freaking

01:35:50.600 Break

01:35:50.980 Nobody's

01:35:51.960 Stopping

01:35:52.380 That

01:35:52.640 They act

01:35:53.080 Like

01:35:53.300 Planned

01:35:53.720 Parenthood

01:35:54.260 Is about

01:35:54.760 Women's

01:35:55.280 Health care

01:35:55.760 Which it

01:35:56.300 Is not

01:35:57.200 It's got

01:35:57.480 Nothing to

01:35:58.480 Do with

01:35:58.840 Women's

01:35:59.340 Health care

01:35:59.920 That's not

01:36:00.440 Where women

01:36:00.960 Go to

01:36:01.560 Get health

01:36:02.060 Care

01:36:02.420 This is a

01:36:02.940 Handmaid's

01:36:03.600 Tale

01:36:03.820 Fantasy

01:36:04.740 None of

01:36:05.960 This stuff

01:36:06.420 Is happening

01:36:06.980 But they

01:36:07.620 Keep telling

01:36:08.340 People it's

01:36:08.860 Happening

01:36:09.140 Of course

01:36:09.440 You can't

01:36:09.680 Even get

01:36:10.160 Most women's

01:36:10.880 Health care

01:36:11.260 At

01:36:11.520 Planned

01:36:11.780 Parenthood

01:36:12.180 They'll

01:36:12.780 Show you

01:36:13.220 Where you

01:36:13.480 Can

01:36:13.840 Sometimes

01:36:14.520 If they

01:36:15.280 Even have

01:36:15.700 Access to

01:36:16.220 That

01:36:16.400 Information

01:36:16.920 Often

01:36:17.280 They will

01:36:17.640 Send them

01:36:18.020 To pre-born

01:36:18.860 Clinics

01:36:19.480 By the way

01:36:20.000 With a

01:36:20.680 Sponsor we

01:36:21.120 Just talked

01:36:21.560 About

01:36:21.860 Who will

01:36:22.600 Actually give

01:36:23.200 Support to

01:36:23.860 Mothers

01:36:24.340 Who need

01:36:25.280 It

01:36:25.440 Unlike

01:36:26.080 What

01:36:26.580 Planned

01:36:26.880 Parenthood

01:36:27.300 Does

01:36:27.720 Which is

01:36:28.280 Incredible

01:36:28.820 I mean

01:36:29.500 You know

01:36:30.880 60%

01:36:31.700 Of women

01:36:32.100 According to

01:36:33.540 The pre-born

01:36:34.580 People

01:36:34.920 60%

01:36:35.620 Of women

01:36:36.060 Would

01:36:36.760 Prefer

01:36:37.480 Of

01:36:37.980 Women

01:36:38.920 Who've

01:36:39.200 Had

01:36:39.460 Abortions

01:36:40.380 Would have

01:36:41.040 Preferred

01:36:41.400 To have

01:36:41.720 Given

01:36:41.920 Birth

01:36:42.360 If they

01:36:43.280 Had the

01:36:43.660 Support

01:36:44.060 That pre-born

01:36:44.740 Gives them

01:36:45.360 But they're

01:36:46.860 Not told

01:36:47.260 About that

01:36:47.840 In fact

01:36:48.700 They're

01:36:48.900 Encouraged

01:36:49.400 To just

01:36:49.940 Have the

01:36:50.380 Abortion

01:36:50.840 Because

01:36:51.260 It's

01:36:51.900 Just a

01:36:52.480 Clump

01:36:52.700 Of

01:36:52.880 Cells

01:36:53.420 Anyway

01:36:54.040 Yeah

01:36:54.420 And

01:36:55.140 Look

01:36:55.760 It's

01:36:56.120 Madness

01:36:56.520 At the

01:36:56.760 End of

01:36:57.020 The

01:36:57.120 Day

01:36:57.340 It's

01:36:57.880 Not

01:36:58.560 Without

01:36:59.140 Any

01:36:59.780 Evidence

01:37:00.200 When it

01:37:00.820 Comes to

01:37:01.120 Abortion

01:37:01.440 Being a

01:37:01.960 Negative

01:37:02.280 A drag

01:37:02.820 On some

01:37:03.180 Of these

01:37:03.420 Elections

01:37:03.820 Particularly

01:37:04.220 In purple

01:37:04.660 States

01:37:05.020 It probably

01:37:05.600 Is going

01:37:06.160 To be a

01:37:06.480 Problem

01:37:06.740 For some

01:37:07.180 Republican

01:37:07.600 Candidates

01:37:08.160 And my

01:37:09.280 View is that

01:37:09.820 You should

01:37:10.040 Go for as

01:37:10.540 Much as

01:37:10.800 You can

01:37:11.000 Get

01:37:11.200 In Texas

01:37:11.660 You should

01:37:11.980 Have it

01:37:12.220 Fully

01:37:12.420 Banned

01:37:12.760 Which it

01:37:13.440 Is

01:37:13.720 Largely

01:37:14.580 With some

01:37:15.660 Exceptions

01:37:16.240 If you

01:37:18.040 Are in

01:37:18.800 Virginia

01:37:19.180 You know

01:37:19.700 Maybe

01:37:19.880 15 week

01:37:20.460 Ban

01:37:20.640 Is all

01:37:20.980 You can

01:37:21.220 Go for

01:37:21.660 And

01:37:22.160 That's

01:37:22.620 All you're

01:37:23.040 Going to

01:37:23.220 Be able

01:37:23.440 To get

01:37:23.700 Right

01:37:23.900 Now

01:37:24.100 And

01:37:28.560 Keep

01:37:29.260 Babies

01:37:29.760 Alive

01:37:30.220 As much

01:37:30.980 As possible

01:37:31.420 Right

01:37:31.660 But at

01:37:32.260 The end

01:37:32.500 You need

01:37:32.780 Different

01:37:33.040 Approaches

01:37:33.380 For different

01:37:33.780 Areas

01:37:34.160 I'm not

01:37:34.840 Denying

01:37:35.120 That

01:37:35.320 But at

01:37:35.560 The end

01:37:35.880 Of the

01:37:36.120 Day

01:37:36.360 If

01:37:36.680 At the end

01:37:37.420 Of forget

01:37:37.840 At the end

01:37:38.100 Of the day

01:37:38.380 At the end

01:37:38.900 Of your

01:37:39.080 Life

01:37:39.380 If

01:37:40.400 If what

01:37:41.040 You have

01:37:41.620 Traded

01:37:42.060 Is a few

01:37:42.640 Election

01:37:43.080 Losses

01:37:43.740 For the

01:37:45.140 Lives of

01:37:45.560 Children

01:37:45.920 You know

01:37:46.800 I'm not

01:37:47.300 Going to

01:37:47.520 Feel bad

01:37:48.020 About that

01:37:48.440 Decision

01:37:48.880 What's

01:37:49.200 The lord

01:37:49.420 Going to

01:37:49.680 Say

01:37:49.920 Yeah

01:37:50.220 You guys

01:37:51.320 Needed

01:37:52.180 That

01:37:52.300 Congressional

01:37:52.880 District

01:37:53.200 Oh man

01:37:54.300 Bob

01:37:55.420 Stevens

01:37:55.920 Lost

01:37:56.520 In ohio

01:37:57.160 Because

01:37:57.900 You

01:37:58.420 Wanted

01:37:58.960 Babies

01:37:59.440 To be

01:37:59.760 Born

01:38:00.060 Right

01:38:00.260 I'm

01:38:00.500 Not

01:38:00.640 Going to

01:38:01.020 Happen

01:38:01.400 You know

01:38:01.660 Eternally

01:38:02.260 I'm not

01:38:02.520 Going to

01:38:02.640 Have too

01:38:02.880 Much of

01:38:03.100 A problem

01:38:03.420 With that

01:38:03.660 Decision

01:38:04.000 I gotta

01:38:05.000 Be honest

01:38:05.400 With you

01:38:05.680 I just

01:38:06.380 Not

01:38:06.580 Going to

01:38:06.740 Feel

01:38:06.880 Bad

01:38:07.160 About it

01:38:07.580 And

01:38:08.080 And I'm

01:38:08.400 Not

01:38:08.580 Saying

01:38:09.000 You know

01:38:09.400 Megan

01:38:10.020 Brought

01:38:10.260 This

01:38:10.420 Up

01:38:10.580 It

01:38:10.820 Really

01:38:11.060 Could

01:38:11.360 There

01:38:11.820 Are

01:38:12.060 Real

01:38:12.700 Instances

01:38:13.980 Of this

01:38:14.740 Potentially

01:38:15.300 Causing

01:38:15.840 Election

01:38:16.940 Losses

01:38:17.420 For

01:38:17.580 Republicans

01:38:18.000 And

01:38:18.160 If

01:38:18.260 Election

01:38:18.560 If

01:38:18.980 You

01:38:19.080 Lose

01:38:19.340 Elections

01:38:19.820 You're

01:38:20.220 Not

01:38:20.320 Going

01:38:20.400 To

01:38:20.420 Have

01:38:20.520 The

01:38:20.640 Power

01:38:20.920 To

01:38:21.080 Put

01:38:21.220 In

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01:41:46.840 Screaming

The Glenn Beck Program - November 09, 2023

The Taboo Voting Issue GOP Candidates Danced Around ｜ 11⧸9⧸23

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