The Glenn Beck Program - June 04, 2026


The Terrorists Have Won: Jihadist Sympathizer Set to Win Congress Seat? | Guests: Sharyl Attkisson & Vickie Paladino | 6⧸4⧸26


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00:02:30.240 there's a lot going on today we have the i mean in one of the most incredible stories
00:02:34.960 i think i've read it's what the spLC was doing remember when they said they were
00:02:39.720 you know they were sponsoring the clan and you know try they were doing you know some
00:02:43.460 i'm telling you nothing none of the hate stuff is true none of it is true the splc now it is
00:02:51.000 revealed we're actually reimbursing clan members for their hoods
00:02:59.780 what what let me ask you when you're filling out your expense report what does it say in the drop
00:03:06.840 box that where what category does your clan hood go into splc uh there's so much more on that story
00:03:15.180 uh also uh the democrat in new jersey that is in tom uh todd beamer's uh district that one
00:03:24.340 uh has terror ties not good how's this guy gonna how's this guy gonna get a security clearance
00:03:29.860 uh we'll talk about that the decline in support for lgbtq what does that mean we'll get into that
00:03:35.940 here in just a second. And something I call the third temptation, something I started talking to
00:03:41.320 you about yesterday with this revelation about Candace Owens' vacation. I don't really care
00:03:48.980 about her vacation. I do think it's interesting that she's vacationing in Russia. That's not
00:03:54.400 interesting. I'd like to do that if I felt safe. But where she's speaking, she's speaking in the
00:04:02.200 same conference put on by alexander dugan and vladimir putin and both of them are speaking
00:04:08.340 there and it is something it's not good it's really not good i'm going to tell you about it
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00:05:41.820 story at glenbeck.com. It is a must read. I don't tell you that very often that these are things
00:05:47.820 that you must read, this is one.
00:05:50.860 You must be aware of this.
00:05:52.940 This is the line that will decide, I believe,
00:05:57.200 one of the crucial lines will decide
00:05:59.200 whether you're on the right side or the wrong side.
00:06:01.500 Even the very elect are going to be misled, okay?
00:06:05.240 And it's gonna get harder and harder to see the truth.
00:06:09.300 So let me recap.
00:06:10.980 Yesterday, I told you one of the most followed
00:06:12.560 conservative voices in America, Candace Owens,
00:06:15.040 announced a quiet family vacation in Russia.
00:06:17.560 She was going to go see the cathedrals.
00:06:19.280 She was saying it was a little faith tourism with her husband.
00:06:21.940 Nothing wrong with that.
00:06:23.160 And a handful of researchers did something that I said yesterday was almost embarrassingly simple.
00:06:28.380 They just read the program.
00:06:31.640 A program, she was listed in as a speaker at the Kremlin's flagship forum.
00:06:39.440 um you know one of Vladimir Putin's headlines a few names uh down from Vladimir Putin
00:06:47.260 is the Russian philosopher Alexander Dugan now on that same roster is Candace Owens and she said
00:06:55.260 she was going to meet Alexander Dugan and maybe talk to him yada yada this is really bad really
00:07:00.500 bad the thread the researchers pulled didn't lead to her however it led back to him the man they
00:07:06.240 call Putin's brain, who wrote back in 1997, the way to break America was to feed divisions
00:07:12.560 and flatter its urge to retreat from the world. Then he also casts Russia as the holy restrainer
00:07:20.960 in a final war against the satanic West. And that satanic West and the Jewish antichrist that will
00:07:30.260 come from apparently America or siding with us, is going to be fought by Russia, the right
00:07:37.460 Christians that have teamed up with Islam, okay?
00:07:41.760 And I told you how this idea written in Moscow can end up in your earbuds in Ohio listening
00:07:47.800 to a podcast, and it's called narrative laundering.
00:07:50.420 You strip the fingerprints off the message, and you slip it in the mouth of somebody you
00:07:55.020 already trust, so it doesn't sound like it's foreign, it sounds like home, and voila, okay?
00:08:00.260 The payload was a single engineered question.
00:08:03.780 Does your faith come first or your country?
00:08:07.060 Which I told you yesterday is a false choice
00:08:10.240 built to set the two great loves of a Christian patriot at war with each other.
00:08:17.760 And the most uncomfortable part was where it gets in.
00:08:23.040 Not through an enemy in a foreign uniform,
00:08:26.120 but through allies waving our own flag and quoting our own scriptures.
00:08:29.840 It was built to fool people exactly like you and me.
00:08:34.620 Luckily, I have been watching this guy, Alexander Dugan, for years.
00:08:39.540 I've been warning you for years.
00:08:42.340 He is about to set, he is, I shouldn't say about,
00:08:45.180 he is on center stage now in much of the right and in Christendom.
00:08:51.040 So I want to show you today, I want to take it from a different angle.
00:08:55.200 I want to show you the same thing, but from a different angle.
00:08:58.180 because people in this audience
00:09:00.500 already diagnosed this disease once before.
00:09:03.440 You just didn't know you were being trained to recognize it.
00:09:06.960 So let me help you recognize what you're facing
00:09:09.620 by showing you what you've already recognized.
00:09:12.860 Do you remember when we started talking
00:09:15.020 about Barack Obama in 2007 and eight
00:09:17.320 and we found Jeremiah Wright
00:09:18.940 and we heard crazy things coming from the pulpit
00:09:21.920 with Jeremiah Wright?
00:09:23.360 We did our homework.
00:09:24.660 What is that?
00:09:25.280 That's liberation theology, okay?
00:09:27.520 It swept through the church in the last century, but you, hopefully, were not fooled.
00:09:33.120 You saw it for what it was, Marxism in a cassock.
00:09:38.420 The cross traded for the hammer and sickle.
00:09:42.060 Salvation redefined as revolution.
00:09:44.860 Remember, it takes the gospel from a personal salvation goal to a collective salvation goal.
00:09:54.140 God doesn't save us collectively. He saves us individually. And when you get this, when you get liberation theology, the kingdom of God collapses into a five-year plan and the gospel is reduced to a means and a political ends.
00:10:09.400 okay you knew that a faith bent into a weapon for the class struggle struggle had to it had
00:10:18.820 already stopped being faith and it had to be stopped because it's not faith even the vatican
00:10:24.760 said so cardinal ratzen uh ratzeninger himself warned that you can't borrow you know categories
00:10:31.800 of marks um and still be preaching christ you can't so you are right you got liberation theology
00:10:39.760 Hold on to that clarity for one more minute because you're going to need it.
00:10:43.160 Because the same offer has just come back around.
00:10:46.400 Now, new and improved.
00:10:48.200 And this time it's not coming from the left.
00:10:50.600 It's coming from the right.
00:10:52.700 And it's coming for you.
00:10:54.880 And it's not arriving with a red star.
00:10:57.380 It arrives under a golden dome.
00:11:00.300 It doesn't say seize the means of production.
00:11:03.620 It says restore the Christian civilization.
00:11:07.400 It doesn't quote Marx.
00:11:08.600 it quotes our church fathers, and it is aimed with great precision at the one group who would
00:11:16.620 never fall for the left-wing version, at the faithful, the traditional, the patriotic Christian
00:11:23.420 who has spent his whole life resisting exactly this kind of maneuver from the other direction.
00:11:30.760 So here's what you have to see, because you of all people are equipped to see it.
00:11:36.120 it's exactly the same heresy liberation theology politicized the faith and dragged it left
00:11:43.140 this new thing politicizes the faith and drags it to the right but the sin underneath is identical
00:11:49.840 taking the kingdom that is not of this world and nailing it to a kingdom that is of this world
00:11:59.000 remember this new philosophy is you got to get in with the russians you got to get in
00:12:05.180 with a christian prince because only this kingdom of the world will save the next kingdom you know
00:12:13.760 that's garbage and the moment you turn the internal into a tool of the temporal you've handed
00:12:21.500 someone else the handle and in this case the someone holding that handle sits in moscow
00:12:27.560 the liberation theologians thought they were using marxism marxism was using them and i'm
00:12:34.380 telling you that the man selling
00:12:36.340 the czar to the rescue of Christendom
00:12:38.580 are running exactly the same
00:12:40.480 play, and the faithful are meant to be
00:12:42.520 the instrument, not the author.
00:12:47.700 Let me tell you something that cynics will
00:12:50.340 never say to you.
00:12:52.200 I respect you too much to
00:12:54.320 flatter or to lie to you.
00:12:57.380 And here's what
00:12:58.420 everyone who will stand against this
00:13:00.380 will not say,
00:13:02.120 and it must be said.
00:13:04.380 And this new theology that is coming out, extraordinarily dangerous, is going to capture a lot of people, including people like you and me, because it's grievance.
00:13:18.900 It starts on grievance.
00:13:20.540 They're not wrong about the culture.
00:13:23.240 There is something in our culture, our entertainment, our schools, our screens, our institutions, that has set itself against Christ.
00:13:32.600 not always in name sometimes in name but always in spirit in its teachings and its trappings and
00:13:39.180 the ache that you feel that that that you are looking at anti-christ stuff coming from our
00:13:47.400 culture that's not paranoia and it's not nostalgia it's like oh i remember leave it to beaver they
00:13:52.980 would have never done no no this is this is discernment screaming at you and the disease
00:13:58.100 is real which is exactly why the counterfeit is so dangerous remember the author of all lies he
00:14:07.760 doesn't make things out of whole cloth a lie that works is never built on a false diagnosis
00:14:13.980 it's built on a true diagnosis diagnosis welded to a cure that is poison
00:14:22.480 you will see and i've got a monologue on this maybe maybe next week i just i'm running out
00:14:29.440 of time this week but i was singing about this yesterday and i started doing some research on
00:14:34.600 all of the people that have diagnosed the sickness but it was the medicine that was poison
00:14:41.140 okay liberation theology was right the poor were crushed this movement is right the culture is evil
00:14:51.100 but a correct diagnosis is the bait as it always is so let me name the cure for what it what it is
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00:16:15.380 okay so somebody has diagnosed the problem right now they're giving you a solution
00:16:28.100 let me name the cure for what it is there is a moment in the wilderness when satan takes christ
00:16:36.960 up to a high place and shows him all the kingdoms in the world in all their glory and he makes him
00:16:42.120 an offer. All of this I'll give to you, the power, the victory, the restored dominion. Just bow down
00:16:49.820 to me. That is the offer on the table right now to all of Christian civilization. It will all be
00:17:00.820 handed back to you. Your enemies routed, your culture war won, not in a generation of patient
00:17:07.980 labor, but in a stroke, all of it. You just bow to me. You just bow to the strongman. You just
00:17:16.040 bow to mother Russia. You bow to the Christian empire. Trade your birthright of ordered liberty
00:17:23.160 for a guarantee of victory. Christ was shown that exact deal, and he refused it.
00:17:32.820 Not because the kingdoms weren't real, but because the price was everything that mattered.
00:17:37.980 you shall worship the Lord your God
00:17:40.900 and him only shall you serve.
00:17:45.800 Not the czar, not the empire,
00:17:48.060 not the man who promises to do the fighting for you.
00:17:51.040 I don't care if it's Putin or Trump.
00:17:53.940 We do not need a Christian prince.
00:17:56.400 We need Christians that understand
00:17:58.860 what it means to be a Christian
00:18:00.860 and the power of Christ alone
00:18:03.020 and the power of living your life the right way
00:18:05.960 and living your life more like him and serving him.
00:18:10.460 Understand what the rescue actually does.
00:18:16.040 It's not saving anything.
00:18:19.200 The rescue from Christ does.
00:18:21.480 A church taken into the arms of the state is not a rescued church.
00:18:25.220 It's a captured one.
00:18:27.640 Look east and you'll see the autopsy.
00:18:31.740 A faith made into a department of government.
00:18:35.020 It's shepherds reading the regime's script,
00:18:37.460 the gospel reduced to a flag.
00:18:39.480 That is not Christianity protected.
00:18:41.740 That is Christianity stuffed and mounted on your wall.
00:18:45.580 A faith that you are forced to profess
00:18:47.260 is not a faith at all.
00:18:49.120 And a kingdom handed to you by Caesar
00:18:50.960 was never the kingdom of God.
00:18:53.340 Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
00:18:56.140 Render unto God what is God.
00:19:00.260 The whole con depends on you forgetting
00:19:03.040 where that line is drawn.
00:19:05.180 It depends on you being so overwhelmed
00:19:07.620 by the evil in this culture,
00:19:10.420 the culture that is turned against Christ,
00:19:12.480 and it has,
00:19:14.680 and us being afraid,
00:19:16.160 us not recognizing the power of our own Christianity,
00:19:19.420 the power of our own Christ and Savior,
00:19:22.820 that we'll look to a man to fight it,
00:19:25.820 a man who does not believe in individual rights.
00:19:29.400 everything everything in the gospel is about the individual everything nothing is about the
00:19:39.040 collective this is all about the collective and not the individual so how do we fight
00:19:46.400 well we fight the american way because the people who founded this country already handed us the
00:19:53.880 best weapon they forged it for exactly this hour our founders were not naive about virtue they knew
00:20:02.080 a free republic can't run on machinery and we let the machinery run john adams said it our
00:20:08.780 constitution was made only for a moral and religious people wholly inadequate government
00:20:12.940 uh for uh for any other washington in his farewell said religion and morality the
00:20:18.160 indispensable supports for political prosperity.
00:20:23.400 They both agreed with your diagnosis two centuries ago.
00:20:28.880 A free people must be a good people or they won't be free.
00:20:33.580 But then they did the thing the czars and the commissars would never understand.
00:20:37.480 They secured the faith by refusing to let the government own it.
00:20:43.420 no established church free exercise for every conscience religion in america grew strong
00:20:51.700 precisely because it stayed free de tocqueville came looking for a secret and found it he said
00:20:59.040 it was in our churches europe was withering under the protection of the state while free churches
00:21:04.440 in america were on fire state religion is a hothouse that kills the plant liberty is the
00:21:11.800 open field where it grows wild and deep. It'll never come from the government. Heck, it barely
00:21:17.680 comes from our churches. It comes from the individuals reading their scriptures and
00:21:22.620 personally connecting to Christ. The Russian model is the old European error with a volume
00:21:30.640 turned all the way up to scream, marry the altar to the throne. Watch the throne devour the altar.
00:21:38.380 America we tried something braver
00:21:41.580 We bet that faith held by free men
00:21:43.720 By persuasion and conviction
00:21:45.460 Not by decree would outlast any empire
00:21:48.120 And we've done it for 250 years
00:21:51.240 That bet is paid
00:21:52.360 Now we just need to replenish
00:21:55.640 We just need to renew it
00:21:57.680 We just need to go back
00:22:00.420 To God
00:22:02.740 We need to humble ourselves as individuals
00:22:08.360 that's the road not a kingdom handed down from above but a renewal built from below
00:22:16.220 free churches strong families schools that actually shape persuasion instead of coercion
00:22:22.280 the slow unglamorous deeply american work of governing ourselves starting with the hardest
00:22:29.280 government at all the government of our own appetites you want to push back on the culture
00:22:35.260 gone antichrist you don't need a czar you need a revival and no government on earth will ever
00:22:42.860 command a revival no commissar investments can ever fake one this road is harder than the other
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00:24:44.240 hey i've um i've agreed to speak with moms for liberty again aboard the um legendary uss midway
00:25:02.500 um it's in san diego california it is happening this weekend i believe tickets are still available
00:25:09.360 I would love to see there.
00:25:11.000 I do not get to California.
00:25:13.700 Oh, I don't know, ever.
00:25:15.000 I can't remember the last time I was in California.
00:25:17.880 Speaking in California, it might have been 10 years, 12 years.
00:25:22.040 It's been a long time since I've spoken in California.
00:25:25.040 So a really rare time to get to meet each other.
00:25:28.180 And it's aboard the USS Midway.
00:25:30.500 I've been working on the speech for a few weeks,
00:25:33.800 wanting to know exactly what to say, the history lesson behind it.
00:25:37.400 um the midway i don't think people have any idea how midway even started it is it's both fascinating
00:25:44.500 uh tremendously heroic and hilarious at the same time so uh we're gonna i'm gonna be there i'll be
00:25:53.820 there stage steel i think is coming um powerful tributes fireworks over san diego bay uh special
00:25:59.840 d-day remembrance uh it'll be a night of faith freedom and patriotism you don't want to miss
00:26:04.760 the us mid uss midway museum tickets at momsforliberty.org it's this saturday it's momsforliberty.org
00:26:14.480 get your tickets now i would love to meet you uh and uh say hello it's going to be in another
00:26:19.460 incredible night it is the bookend to what we did on ellis island which was everyone that was there
00:26:25.380 i mean as i rode the ferry back and forth with the people that were there and i talked to everyone
00:26:30.200 and everybody said it was the most incredible experience of their life and i think this is
00:26:34.120 going to be another one of those uh evenings this time in the west coast very rare it's
00:26:39.820 it's almost like i'm bigfoot it's a glenn beck sighting in california uh you don't want to miss
00:26:47.280 it this weekend glenn can i just have one okay yeah i've seen a sneak peek of the speech
00:26:54.820 i was bawling reading it in written form if you are if you know what happened at ellis island and
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00:27:24.180 So great. So you don't miss that. Another thing, speaking of facts today, after the show for
00:27:29.500 insiders only this is like almost like a a full special that we would do this is a very deep dive
00:27:36.940 on what i think is coming in fact you can see if you take uh what is it camera three uh yeah the
00:27:43.620 chalkboard is being cleared for me right now uh because i'm doing a special um uh tonight um or
00:27:52.560 sorry today right after the show at noon uh jason and i have been talking about this for the last
00:27:58.140 few days last few weeks we felt something changing something here i go to europe and i feel strongly
00:28:05.260 something's not right something is something's something's changing something's different
00:28:10.900 um and then we come back and then the news of iran and jason and i started talking about it and
00:28:16.800 and jason you saw my research last night and my notes for today for the after show the overtime
00:28:22.920 show for insiders only um what are your thoughts on it my first thought was glenn i thought this
00:28:30.680 was going to be 15 20 minutes but then you did an entire special like this is pretty much another
00:28:36.340 like network size special it's it's really something special um with lack of another word
00:28:41.900 but uh it is pretty much exactly what i have felt is happening uh you put it into words globally
00:28:48.840 all the different moves and counter moves that are being made and where this is going and will
00:28:54.580 there be anything that stands in the way in the middle anything that stands for personal freedom
00:29:00.540 and liberty there is only one place you can probably guess who that is but how does this
00:29:05.740 play out well this is a blueprint a map of how i see it how what you're seeing everything play out
00:29:11.900 and what the trump administration is actually doing to prepare for it maybe that's the most
00:29:16.880 important thing because there is a way through it so um it's brutally honest because i don't
00:29:23.840 want to give you anything but facts and when i give you my opinion i will tell you this is my
00:29:27.920 opinion i can't prove it um but uh it is something that if you want to see over the horizon you need
00:29:35.500 to see because i i think the i think the entire map um the globe is about to change the the map
00:29:42.340 of the globe is about to change and in a dramatic way. And we're in a completely different phase.
00:29:50.200 I don't think anybody realizes it yet. We're in a, you know, when Trump came in, that was phase
00:29:56.660 one. We're in phase two and nobody understands it yet. And it's a dicey one. So that will be
00:30:02.520 broadcast live. I'm going to just take five minute break after the show, get my head together,
00:30:08.140 go to the chalkboard, and then we'll come on for the insiders, and I will show you this.
00:30:13.400 This is like a big special that we usually do, but without all of the fancy visuals and everything
00:30:23.080 else. This is just me and you breaking it down. I'll show you what's coming. You don't want to
00:30:27.420 miss that. You have to be an insider to see it. It'll be live, so join the insider now,
00:30:32.300 glennbeck.com slash torch glennbeck.com slash torch um and you'll see that right immediately
00:30:38.980 following that's noon eastern time and it'll probably last an hour depends on how much
00:30:44.580 i just keep ad-libbing i got it i'm very bad at i just keep adding stuff um but uh it should run
00:30:53.140 about an hour ish uh so uh a very important hour you don't want to miss it'll be live and then you
00:31:01.020 can watch it you know on torch you know when you when you're at home if you don't have time during
00:31:05.380 the middle of the day but very important you can listen to it as well uh okay let me see there's a
00:31:11.100 couple of things that we should talk about um you know let me get to the clan stuff so we found out
00:31:19.140 that the southern poverty law center this is what two months ago was um was paying the clan they were
00:31:27.060 actually they were actually funding some of the stuff that they would then go on tv and say look
00:31:34.280 at these radicals look at these radicals where where was that in carolinas um that trump you
00:31:39.740 know said these are fine people on both sides and everybody said he's talking about the clan no he's
00:31:43.340 not he wasn't talking about the clan go back and listen to the whole thing you moron anyway um it
00:31:48.220 wasn't about that uh but they were that was funded by the spLC okay we now find out it's worse than
00:31:56.080 that it's worse than that they were they were also paying members of the clan to stay with
00:32:02.880 the racist group so no no you want to leave no you think this is morally wrong no no can we pay
00:32:09.400 you to stay uh and then here you know what you need you need some extra incentive we'll pay for
00:32:16.240 your Klan uniform. Now call me naive. I never thought about the buying of the Klan uniform
00:32:27.980 process. I don't know where you buy one of those. I don't want to know. I guess I just thought maybe
00:32:35.220 you made it at home by yourself. I mean, what company is making Klan uniforms? And you get a
00:32:41.160 receipt for that? Isn't that something you probably don't want a receipt for? But get a receipt. Look,
00:32:45.540 I'm going to pay for your Klan uniform.
00:32:47.020 This is the SPLC.
00:32:48.460 I'm going to pay for your Klan uniform, but I need a receipt for that.
00:32:51.800 So wherever you're buying your Klan uniform, you're like, I need a receipt.
00:32:55.460 I've got to put this on my business expense.
00:32:58.540 What does the Dropbox, when you're filling out your business expenses there,
00:33:04.180 what does the Dropbox say with your Klan uniform?
00:33:08.680 What is that?
00:33:10.020 What category does that fall under?
00:33:13.200 I don't know.
00:33:14.020 And that one's probably easier to find the category than literally the crosses that they were burning.
00:33:23.000 The SPLC, it is now out.
00:33:26.000 They paid for cross-burning, robes and hoods, recruitment, and living expenses.
00:33:37.620 I got to tell you, if I paid a dime to the SPLC, I think I'd be a little upset.
00:33:42.960 Wait, you paid for the crosses?
00:33:44.720 Do these guys even exist without the SPLC's money?
00:33:48.240 I mean, my guess is yes,
00:33:50.480 in numbers far larger than you would be comfortable with.
00:33:53.500 But really?
00:33:55.000 I'm not so sure now.
00:33:57.300 You're paying for the cross?
00:33:59.540 Did anybody ask?
00:34:02.120 Did Billy Bob Jimbo come up and say,
00:34:06.220 hey, guys, let me just get the cross this time.
00:34:09.580 how how is he affording the crosses i mean i don't know again do you go to a lumber yard and
00:34:18.880 do you just buy the wood to make the cross i don't i don't know are there special places
00:34:25.040 and do i need a receipt for that and when i turn in my receipt do i have to say i just think this
00:34:31.580 is things you don't want tracked do i put on the receipt lumber for burning crosses
00:34:38.400 just when you thought america could not get more bizarre you get this story you get this story
00:34:50.800 and then how about this one this week a democrat with terror ties linked to the 93 world trade
00:35:00.360 Center bombing, is on track to become New Jersey's next congressman.
00:35:11.520 It's New Jersey's 12th district.
00:35:17.520 He's the guy who was a witness for the defense in the blind sheiks trial.
00:35:25.020 then he took a trip over to some godforsaken country um and uh and was doing work with
00:35:37.500 al-qaeda then he decides i'm going to run for congress in new jersey and not just any place
00:35:47.440 in new jersey in the 12th district of new jersey why do i say that's important because
00:35:53.680 Anybody remember Todd Beamer?
00:35:57.380 I'm talking 25 years ago, but you remember Todd Beamer?
00:36:00.300 Todd Beamer was the let's roll guy on the fourth plane on September 11th
00:36:07.360 that said let's roll.
00:36:09.100 The only reason why that plane crashed into a middle of a field
00:36:12.940 and not into either the White House or the Capitol
00:36:15.660 is because of Todd Beamer and all the people that were on board on that.
00:36:19.160 They were like, you're not doing this with us.
00:36:21.180 It's his district
00:36:24.160 So you've gone from a district
00:36:26.660 Where the bodies were actually recovered
00:36:29.360 In a burning shell of an airplane
00:36:32.300 To electing a guy
00:36:34.620 Who has worked with Al-Qaeda
00:36:36.220 And defended the blind sheik
00:36:38.520 You know we're coming up to the 25th anniversary
00:36:45.540 me? 25 years ago. Look at us. Look at what's going on in our world. In our world. I mean
00:37:00.220 your world. Just being an American. Go to the airport. Take off your belt. All of the
00:37:07.740 crap you have to stand in line for. Give me your eye scan now. All the crap that has
00:37:15.100 happened. If you look back, all of our division, because the wars came from this, the hatred of
00:37:22.940 the flag, all of this stuff, all of this started on 9-11, 25 years ago this September.
00:37:32.120 Let me say something
00:37:37.320 I don't know
00:37:41.060 True
00:37:41.940 I'm a formative
00:37:44.860 In a question
00:37:46.320 Did Osama Bin Laden win?
00:38:00.260 I think we're still in the fight
00:38:02.000 but i would say uh it's a close fight we never thought we would be fighting 25 years later but
00:38:10.680 we are everything everything that we're going through right now 90 of it comes from 9-11
00:38:18.700 maybe that's a question we should ask ourselves more often are they winning did they win
00:38:26.540 because I don't recognize my country anymore.
00:38:30.180 And that was their plan,
00:38:32.540 to push us to the edge of collapse,
00:38:35.300 to hit us so hard to collapse our economy.
00:38:38.700 Well, our economy stood by the grace of God.
00:38:43.620 But is America?
00:38:47.560 I think that's what our 250th anniversary,
00:38:50.040 coincidentally, is really all about.
00:38:52.200 It's our decision.
00:38:53.040 This is our year to make the decision.
00:38:55.040 Is there going to be another 250 years?
00:38:56.540 They're going to be on there 250 days, 250 months, 250 minutes.
00:39:02.840 So we're going to have another anniversary again.
00:39:05.300 This is the year we should decide because we're on the ropes, gang.
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00:42:08.440 so i started the hour talking about alexander dugan and um candace owens and what's happening
00:42:30.000 over in russia and why it's important for you to know and i just was listening to
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00:42:34.940 Jason. Jason, can you just take us through
00:42:37.200 Dugan's symbol? This is why
00:42:39.040 an insider wrote
00:42:41.100 and asked me the question, Glenn,
00:42:42.980 would you say that Dugan is
00:42:44.720 Luciferian?
00:42:47.760 Luciferian.
00:42:49.220 Luciferian. Yeah.
00:42:50.580 Yeah, absolutely he's Luciferian.
00:42:53.200 And you reminded me of
00:42:55.040 his symbol, which is
00:42:55.960 six arrows
00:42:59.360 all pointed in
00:43:01.040 a different direction, in different shapes
00:43:03.020 sizes and it's a star and what what star is this from the occult it's the star of chaos glenn
00:43:09.640 star of chaos who is the author of all chaos um and he started this with this symbol because he
00:43:20.360 wanted to create chaos in the united states this is the guy who candace owens and others have met
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00:45:50.040 the fusion of entertainment enlightenment and empowerment this is the glenn beck program
00:46:06.480 hello america as we get ready to celebrate our 250th birthday as a nation a good friend of mine
00:46:16.840 Eric Metaxas has written a new book called Revolution.
00:46:20.840 He is the number one New York Times bestseller of the book
00:46:24.620 that really was game-changing for me, Bonhoeffer.
00:46:28.100 He also authored Is Atheism Dead? Martin Luther? Amazing Grace.
00:46:33.700 His books have been translated into 25 different languages.
00:46:36.860 He also hosts Socrates in the City, nationally syndicated
00:46:40.540 Eric Metaxas radio show, the show about everything,
00:46:44.240 which is a weekly show on uh tbn uh he where he has interviewed you know ron howard and mel gibson
00:46:50.960 and morgan freeman and peter teal and and everybody else um he's he's kind of the i i would say in a
00:47:00.480 way the buckley of our generation meaning he's really smarter than me much smarter than me and
00:47:09.440 most everybody i know uh and so he just is he's like when he speaks you're like well he knows
00:47:15.740 he knows he's got it uh and especially on topics like this he's he's taken on the revolution
00:47:21.180 decided to do he's such a great researcher and writer decided to do the revolution and i talked
00:47:26.760 to him i don't know during the summer i think um when he was just finishing this up and he says
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00:48:59.600 Eric, my man, what an honor to have you on the program.
00:49:03.380 Tell people about the new book.
00:49:06.080 First of all, if you think I am in any way smarter than you,
00:49:11.300 I have done my job in fooling Glenn Beck.
00:49:14.500 Praise God.
00:49:15.600 Hallelujah.
00:49:16.360 Right.
00:49:16.960 You are so kind.
00:49:18.000 You're so gracious.
00:49:19.320 Listen, what I said to you when we were together,
00:49:21.900 wherever that was. I set out to write a definitive book of the story of the American Revolution.
00:49:30.120 That was my goal. People kept saying, what's your angle? I said, I have no angle. I want to tell the
00:49:35.140 story because the story doesn't exist in one volume, one book. There's tons of books on the
00:49:40.820 Revolution, but most Americans don't know the story of the Revolution. How do I know that?
00:49:46.940 Because I didn't really know the story. I forgot most of what I learned in fifth grade or eighth
00:49:50.920 grade, it is vital, vital. It could not be more important that we all know the story. If you know
00:49:58.640 the story, you know the details, you know the heroes, you know the background, it will change
00:50:04.040 you and America will be able to sustain ourselves as a free people, period. So this is not, knowing
00:50:11.000 this information is not extra credit. It's not for history buffs. If you're any kind of American,
00:50:16.840 You need to know this. And if you stuck a microphone in anybody's face in Main Street of America in 1960, everybody knew this stuff. It's gone out of the culture. So I said, I just want to write a very compelling, very readable, fun gallop through our history, you know, the run up to Lexington and Concord.
00:50:37.260 So, you know, starting with the Stamp Act and all that crazy stuff and Lexington Concord and Bunker Hill and all the way through to Yorktown.
00:50:44.060 And in the course of doing that, Glenn, as I told you, I was astonished, astonished at what I discovered everywhere I looked, everywhere I looked.
00:50:54.180 It's been hidden from us, OK, because the secular nonsense narrative that's been pushed and pushed and pushed that all the founders were deists, baloney, folks.
00:51:03.060 Baloney is the only polite word I could think of on such short notice.
00:51:06.420 Absolute garbage, vile lies.
00:51:08.740 Washington was no deist.
00:51:10.920 What a joke.
00:51:11.680 What a lie.
00:51:13.000 These were men of profound Christian faith who set about doing something that had never
00:51:19.800 been done since the Israelites were in the Sinai wilderness, where they left Pharaoh
00:51:24.940 and left Egypt and looked directly to God.
00:51:27.540 Without an earthly king, we're going to govern ourselves.
00:51:30.160 This is what the founders were trying to do.
00:51:31.720 And all of those heroes, John Adams, Samuel Adams, they all understood this is what we're doing.
00:51:38.260 And it was a spiritual thing.
00:51:41.520 It was an amazing thing.
00:51:42.540 They wanted to bring the Bible into government.
00:51:45.680 How can we create a government based on what the Bible would allow us to do?
00:51:50.380 I mean, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
00:51:52.700 I was so overwhelmed by the explicitly Christian nature of what was going on.
00:51:58.360 So I said, I'm not going to write a book.
00:51:59.440 It's not a Christian book.
00:52:00.260 it's an American it's a book of American history it's our story but everywhere you look this
00:52:04.680 narrative comes out it is inescapable and I was really overwhelmed I said I have to try to not
00:52:10.860 write about it too much because people are gonna think oh it's a Christian book no this is a book
00:52:14.020 for anybody in America to know our story but uh it's kind of not what most of us have heard and
00:52:20.880 shame on those who have been pushing this French Enlightenment secular nonsense narrative it's
00:52:25.960 preposterous. A couple of things. We have a letter from George Washington, and in this letter,
00:52:32.640 he's not quoting the scriptures. He's not saying, you know, in the book of, he's not saying any of
00:52:36.660 that. He's just writing to somebody his thoughts. And in this one letter, I think it's 24 different
00:52:43.860 scriptures are quoted without him quoting it. It's just part of his language. He's so steeped
00:52:50.980 in it that's his language there you go when people say that they're deists look at the number of them
00:52:58.960 of george washington is chief among them look at the number of them that say i saw the miracle
00:53:05.900 this was a miracle a deist does not believe in miracles so right that is your that's your chief
00:53:12.520 red herring there is i mean it's like okay that's absolutely a lie because you know a deist cannot
00:53:19.120 do not believe in miracles. No, it is so ridiculous. And again, I didn't set out to tell
00:53:25.580 that story, but in telling the story of our revolution, that's the story. And it just comes
00:53:31.420 out. It is. And by the way, I said it before, but it is our duty to know this. That's why I wrote
00:53:39.260 this book because I looked around. I said, is there a book that I could just say here? It's
00:53:42.060 all in here. There really wasn't. And I said, we need a book. This is our 250th. This is our last
00:53:47.520 exit before the toll. We, the people, need to understand how our government works, where our
00:53:52.820 liberties come from, that all of our founders understood our liberties come from God. Many
00:53:58.800 people in the U.S. Senate today don't know that. All this stuff is vital. But again, it comes
00:54:04.060 across in the stories of sacrifice. It's just, you know, you can't help but be moved by these
00:54:10.540 figures. These are some of the greatest figures in the history of the world, some of the greatest
00:54:14.120 accomplishments some of it is funny i mean they're funny stories uh but these were beautiful people
00:54:19.860 and everybody needs to know this so i just hope that it's you know that it's readable uh i mean
00:54:25.720 that was my goal give me the story give me the story of course it is give me the story um that
00:54:30.920 when you found you went this changes me well there's so many and that's like the cliche right
00:54:39.600 There's so many, I can't think of one.
00:54:41.040 I mean, honestly, I'll tell you this.
00:54:44.320 Samuel Adams, again, every American should know,
00:54:47.240 he's the father of the American Revolution.
00:54:50.020 This man is the father of the Revolution.
00:54:51.540 I won't give you details because we have no time.
00:54:53.440 But this man, on the eve of signing
00:54:56.660 the Declaration of Independence,
00:54:58.320 so it's officially signed August 2nd, 1776,
00:55:01.980 on the eve of that, he gives a speech to Congress.
00:55:05.180 So a member of Congress, Samuel Adams,
00:55:06.400 gives a speech to Congress
00:55:07.260 on the steps of Independence Hall in Philadelphia.
00:55:09.220 Speaking to Congress, what does he say? He says, we have this day restored the sovereign, capital S, the sovereign. We have declared independence from the earthly king, the monarch, King George III, and we have declared dependence on the sovereign, capital S, God. That's how we govern ourselves.
00:55:30.220 And the reason the book is titled Revolution and not the American Revolution is American is redundant.
00:55:35.960 There's only been one successful revolution.
00:55:38.500 The French Revolution is a joke that ends in a bloodbath and a dictator who crowns himself emperor.
00:55:43.000 They got rid of the king.
00:55:43.720 They got an emperor dictator.
00:55:45.540 We are the only people privileged to have overseen the revolution in world history that changes everything.
00:55:54.080 It is vital we understand this had never been done in the history of the world.
00:55:58.380 And when it was done, they understood we are under God.
00:56:01.700 And every one of them, George Washington, John Adams, they clearly understood and wrote
00:56:06.240 that if we behave righteously, God will bless our efforts in the sacred cause.
00:56:12.360 If we don't, he won't.
00:56:14.500 So we will not stoop to the barbarism of the British.
00:56:17.580 The British were barbaric monsters.
00:56:20.660 That's something I never understood at all.
00:56:22.700 And it's all through the story.
00:56:24.460 They are monsters.
00:56:25.580 People would, Americans would surrender.
00:56:26.900 they would bayonet them to death. And he goes on and on and on. They, if you want to, who are the
00:56:31.040 good guys? Who are the bad guys? It is open and shut. Those are the bad guys. These are the guys,
00:56:36.700 the Americans who said, we will not cede the moral high ground. We will behave in a dignified,
00:56:42.000 godly way that God will bless our efforts. That's a covenant relationship, which goes back to the
00:56:47.060 Old Testament. They all understood this, especially Washington. And I have to say, I never heard that,
00:56:53.000 never heard that in school you'll never hear it on PBS uh this is very important that we understand
00:56:58.340 who we are and how we got here and you know that's what the book is about um did you cover it all I
00:57:04.460 find this fact fascinating and I I've not read this anywhere where it was highlighted I yeah
00:57:11.680 you can find it easily separately but you know they say that Americans um you know that uh
00:57:17.480 uh, African-Americans didn't play a role in this or, you know, whatever.
00:57:22.840 I think the case could be made that the most important roles, Crispus Attucks was the first
00:57:30.600 to die, Bunker Hill. He's a black man. First one to be killed in the revolution is a black man.
00:57:36.960 Then you have Peter Salem at Lexington. I think I can't remember which one of the big battles
00:57:43.540 We are about to be completely wiped out, okay?
00:57:47.260 We're losing the battle, and if they continue to advance, they'll wipe out our entire army.
00:57:55.800 They start to advance.
00:57:57.560 Peter Salem, a black man, grabs his gun and targets the captain and takes out their leader.
00:58:06.020 And it was such an audacious move.
00:58:08.320 It stops the army.
00:58:09.840 they go into uh uh kind of chaos for a few minutes which allows us to escape so we're saved by a
00:58:17.880 black man and then i mean one of the stories and i know we won't have time today maybe you can have
00:58:23.600 me back because one of the things that blew my mind was the boston puritans okay john adams uh
00:58:30.960 samuel adams james otis jr uh adams says that his argument in court in 1761 was the opening scene
00:58:37.320 the revolution. They were all so dramatically anti-slavery that it just blows your mind that
00:58:44.400 we kind of act, oh, the founders were pro-slavery. They were so anti-slavery. That story, I mean,
00:58:50.620 again, my book's not about that, but I mentioned that. It is incredible. The Christian nature of
00:58:56.080 the ones leading this is so dramatic, and they were so bitterly anti-slavery. They had to swallow
00:59:03.400 that the evil pill in 1787 of, okay, if we want a union, I guess we have to allow this,
00:59:09.860 but we hate it. You know, that you've talked about that a lot, but that's, people need to
00:59:14.640 know this stuff. It's why I wrote the book and I will shamelessly beg people. This is the opening
00:59:19.360 week. Please, if you're thinking of buying the book, please buy it immediately because there's
00:59:24.560 some other books out there. I don't want to mention their names written by people. I don't
00:59:28.640 want to mention their names, Jill Biden, that are at the top of the charts. By God's grace,
00:59:34.860 I would love to make it too big to rig so that my book is at the top of some of these lists.
00:59:40.680 And I say that shamelessly because this is America's story. You'll see when you read it.
00:59:45.620 Eric, you're one of my favorite writers. Your books have really changed the course of my life,
00:59:50.040 and it is always an honor to talk to you and have you on. Thank you so much.
00:59:53.320 It's my honor. God bless you, my friend.
00:59:54.940 You bet. The name of the book is Revolution. I urge you to buy it now. Go online and buy it right now. Revolution. Eric is one of the best historians, best storytellers that I know, best researchers. This is a dynamic book that should be in every single person's home.
01:00:16.600 It's called Revolution by Eric Metaxas.
01:00:20.940 Buy it now.
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01:01:33.220 We have two of my favorite people.
01:01:34.760 Cheryl Atkinson joins us here in just a second.
01:01:37.080 She's going to talk to us a little bit
01:01:37.920 about what's happening at CBS with 60 Minutes.
01:01:40.880 It's a crazy story.
01:01:42.660 There is a new Gallup poll that is out
01:01:45.180 that shows American support for LGBTQ+.
01:01:47.980 These issues are dropping in the polls.
01:01:51.420 65% of Americans still support same-sex marriage,
01:01:55.600 but that is down six points.
01:01:58.920 Moral acceptance of gay and lesbian relationships
01:02:02.180 has fallen to 62%.
01:02:05.340 That's the lowest tint since 2016.
01:02:09.200 Support for gender transition has dropped even more.
01:02:11.800 Only 38% say it's now morally okay.
01:02:15.120 57% say it is absolutely wrong.
01:02:19.020 Republicans are leading the decline.
01:02:20.880 It's 37% supporting same-sex marriage, 5% accepting gender transition.
01:02:25.660 Independents have also become much less supportive.
01:02:27.980 Democrats' views have stayed mostly the same.
01:02:30.040 um you know no one thought we would see the fall of um roe versus wade but we did and the writing
01:02:42.220 on the wall for gay marriage uh it may already be up on the wall many americans feel like they
01:02:48.000 were sold a bill of goods about marriage in general they believe you know what the activists
01:02:52.780 pushed that marriage was just really about love and i'm talking about straight marriage too you
01:02:57.180 How do you stop people from loving one another and being together?
01:03:01.200 You can't. We don't want to.
01:03:03.380 But then the generation of people pushing for gay marriage grew up.
01:03:07.060 They got married, they have kids, and everything has changed.
01:03:09.960 And they realized that marriage is much more than love.
01:03:13.520 It is also about family and commitment and honor.
01:03:16.840 It is about procreation of the species, of a stable society,
01:03:22.000 which means getting married isn't just about making adults happy and fulfilled.
01:03:26.120 It's about what children need and what children have a right to.
01:03:30.820 And I think a lot of people, when they saw a baby, you know,
01:03:34.660 ripped from birth from a poor woman's arms to give to two wealthy gay men
01:03:38.040 who bought that baby, they'd be like, that's not what I signed up for.
01:03:41.940 We didn't sign up for a generation of people who don't know their fathers
01:03:45.680 or never have a mother, all in the name of love.
01:03:48.620 You know, when you signed on to the LGB, that was probably easier.
01:03:53.040 and then the tea came screaming down the pike
01:03:55.400 and you're like, wait a minute, wait, wait, what?
01:03:57.000 And then it turned into chemically sterilizing children
01:03:59.820 and cutting off healthy body parts
01:04:01.560 and what we're doing to women's sports
01:04:04.260 and all of this stuff.
01:04:05.320 And I think people have just said, you know, enough.
01:04:07.460 Nope, nope, nope, nope, not gonna do it, you know?
01:04:12.920 And the receipts for redefining marriage
01:04:16.060 are still coming in.
01:04:17.540 And I'm not talking about gay,
01:04:18.600 I'm talking about straight marriage.
01:04:21.140 No fault divorce.
01:04:23.040 which came a long time before gay marriage
01:04:26.260 and convinced it's okay to leave marriage
01:04:27.840 because we feel like it.
01:04:29.420 I mean, sometimes there are really legitimate reasons
01:04:31.920 and that's not what I'm talking about.
01:04:34.640 I remember when I told my grandmother
01:04:37.280 I was getting a divorce.
01:04:39.600 She really didn't like my wife too much.
01:04:43.140 And when I called her,
01:04:44.320 I didn't think it would be a hard conversation.
01:04:45.780 And my grandmother said,
01:04:47.500 excuse me?
01:04:50.100 And I said, what?
01:04:52.540 And she said, you of all people, I thought you would be the one that would make it.
01:04:57.800 And I said, well, we just don't, we're just, it's not good.
01:05:02.640 And, you know, we're just, she's like, let me ask you something.
01:05:05.540 Do you think your grandfather and I liked each other all those years?
01:05:08.820 I was like, well, don't wait, please don't crush this.
01:05:12.080 Yes, I think you did.
01:05:13.780 And she's like, no, we loved each other.
01:05:16.420 We loved each other.
01:05:18.180 But there were many times in our marriage, it would have been easier to walk away.
01:05:22.540 But when you get married, you make a commitment and you stay married and you get through it because all things will pass and it's worth it and it's right.
01:05:35.420 And I was like, oh my gosh, grandma didn't talk to me.
01:05:39.620 I don't know if she didn't talk to me or I just didn't want to call her for a while because she, I mean, she just read me the riot act.
01:05:45.200 And you know what?
01:05:46.080 She was right.
01:05:48.120 She's right.
01:05:49.120 You don't leave because your marriage isn't making you happy.
01:05:52.540 marriage isn't about who people are attracted to you know that's and that is the issue for
01:06:03.000 many americans i'm attracted to them i love them this is about marriage as a bedrock for any
01:06:09.640 society that expects to survive marriage and we have been redefining it not just for lgbtq we've
01:06:19.360 just keep redefining it to make it easier and easier and easier. Marriage was a word with
01:06:23.800 meaning, and we've changed the meaning. And now we're dealing with the consequences in our society.
01:06:29.960 People aren't getting more homophobic. They just want a society where families flourish and kids
01:06:35.480 are given a mom and a dad. How can we claim to care about love if we don't care about that?
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01:08:13.040 welcome to the glenn beck program we have a lot to cover today i'm doing an extra hour
01:08:42.120 uh on the show for insiders if you're a member of the torch getting our first real big blackboard
01:08:47.220 show i'm going to explain what is happening i think there is a new phase that we're in when
01:08:52.620 donald trump came in we were in this phase where everything was moving so rapidly and it seems like
01:08:58.700 things are kind of getting bogged down just a little bit uh and um you know especially with
01:09:04.560 the war overseas and i was just over in europe and uh i met with some leaders over in europe
01:09:10.260 And I will tell you, I think there's something coming.
01:09:14.280 There's something different that is happening.
01:09:15.900 And I've been working on this for a while.
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01:09:55.720 Okay, Cheryl Atkinson, one of the best, if not the best investigative reporter I know.
01:10:02.120 She is the host of Full Measure.
01:10:03.660 She used to be on 60 Minutes.
01:10:05.800 She worked at CBS.
01:10:07.480 She has had an amazing story of the government spying on her, her own network coming after her, and surviving all of that.
01:10:21.980 And not just surviving, thriving with that.
01:10:24.180 Cheryl, welcome to the program.
01:10:26.400 Welcome. May I amend one thing you said?
01:10:29.600 I, believe it or not, never worked on 60 Minutes in all those years and all that investigative report.
01:10:36.600 I thought you did.
01:10:39.540 I'm sorry.
01:10:40.260 I stand corrected.
01:10:41.420 I thought you did.
01:10:42.380 It's a very segmented organization,
01:10:46.420 and there was somebody at some level that did not want me contributing to 60 Minutes.
01:10:52.360 When there were 60 Minutes, too, before the Dan Rather scandal,
01:10:56.620 deep six that show, I was working on two pieces for that program,
01:11:00.700 and then it got canceled.
01:11:02.540 And then, yeah, never worked on 60 Minutes.
01:11:06.600 Well, I want to talk to you about 60 Minutes and Barry Weiss and what is happening, because Barry is trying to change the culture in CBS.
01:11:15.380 I think she's doing a great job.
01:11:16.820 For the first time ever, or at least in a very long time, I actually will look at stories from CBS News, and I'll at least give it a read, where before it was just like, I don't believe anything they say.
01:11:31.180 And I don't agree with everything, but I don't expect to agree with everything that a journalist is going to write.
01:11:35.720 i just would like fair um you know reporting so she um the story is she just appointed a new
01:11:43.780 producer for 60 minutes and scott pelly who you know one of the lead guys there um he said you
01:11:52.100 this guy's gonna kill 60 minutes blah blah blah there's a big showdown you know i guess in the
01:11:57.960 newsroom and he's fired and now pelly is upset and making a big deal the left is upset about
01:12:05.320 all of this i mean uh ben rhodes came out and he was like i can't believe this is just this is
01:12:11.140 incredible ben talk to your brother your brother took pelly off of uh the anchor job because
01:12:17.620 apparently i mean i don't know this but at least david rhodes had real issues with pelly as well
01:12:24.100 do you have any insight on any of this i do i mean scott pelly was not a popular anchor in terms of
01:12:32.440 his skill as an anchor, as well as his personality. And I can't explain why he persisted in the chair
01:12:39.500 for some years anyway, because gosh, quite a while before they removed him, I was told by a level
01:12:46.700 above David Rose that they were trying to fix what they call the Scott Pelley problem. And I don't
01:12:53.660 know what keeps somebody in place when they think there's an issue. But one of the issues they had
01:12:58.500 with him was, as it was told to me, he takes his managing editor role too seriously. He was
01:13:04.880 interfering with the correspondent stories in a way that was not productive, and the veterans
01:13:10.800 were complaining, and longtime CBS names that you would recognize were complaining to the
01:13:16.400 high executives about this. My experience was when they named him, I was told by higher-ups,
01:13:22.620 this new show without Katie Couric with Scott Pelley is going to be all about what you do,
01:13:27.480 your investigative reporting, even more so, I was already having a great career there,
01:13:32.000 but they said, now with Scott Pelley there, boy, this show is going to be all about what you do.
01:13:37.540 And the very first week, the very first investigative piece, one of the best ones I
01:13:41.820 think I ever did that I offered them, he censored, never aired. And that was the pattern
01:13:47.140 and the story for me, at least, of Scott Pelley at the anchor desk.
01:13:52.100 Was that the Boeing story, the Dreamliner story?
01:13:55.080 No, Boeing was one of it. That came later.
01:13:57.980 The first one was a story at Expo's A.I. did on the travel group called People to People
01:14:03.960 that, as it turns out, was luring high school students into, it was nothing more than a
01:14:09.540 travel agency out of the auspices of a nonprofit using the Dwight Eisenhower name and his
01:14:15.580 daughter or granddaughter's reputation to convince children in high school that they
01:14:22.800 had been chosen to be ambassadors on these amazing global trips when in fact they were just
01:14:29.100 using lists these kids weren't honored or nominated by their teachers as they claimed
01:14:34.580 and they were getting kids to go on these trips and the kids were getting injured some of them
01:14:40.120 were getting killed um it was all a big bait why was it why did he did he say why he canceled that
01:14:47.680 or keep that to the curb?
01:14:51.220 One of my producers, listen, I even found a member of Congress
01:14:56.700 had sent letters out under, or there were names out under her name
01:15:01.100 advocating for this group, telling students you should go.
01:15:05.220 And I learned and exposed that they had forged her name.
01:15:08.300 And I even got her on camera saying so, which she didn't originally want to do.
01:15:11.980 It was a great story.
01:15:13.820 It was never explained to me.
01:15:15.140 We call it, my producer and I at the time,
01:15:16.920 The Death by a Thousand Cuts, he would want to change this or want to change that.
01:15:22.080 Well, let's not mention the deaths.
01:15:23.460 Well, let's not do this.
01:15:25.080 Rewrite it again.
01:15:26.500 And he started to understand.
01:15:28.140 They would never say there was anything wrong with the story.
01:15:30.200 Quite the opposite.
01:15:31.020 They would say, this is a brilliant story.
01:15:32.600 This is a great story.
01:15:33.860 We're going to save it for next week.
01:15:35.320 Just do this, do that.
01:15:36.840 And it would never air.
01:15:38.280 And that was the story of people.
01:15:39.840 I don't know if it was people connected at a higher level that didn't want these stories to air.
01:15:44.260 You know, that were outside the lobbying CBS.
01:15:48.040 He says that what Barry is doing is censoring the stories.
01:15:55.280 And I think he said that management had instructed me to inject lies into my reporting, yada, yada, yada.
01:16:05.720 Do you believe any of that?
01:16:08.140 No, I don't.
01:16:09.040 I believe that most likely, based on my experience, they were trying to make the stories more balanced and fair.
01:16:17.480 And the culture among some at CBS, and I think it's gotten worse since I left, was not to do so.
01:16:24.360 And I think they don't understand or came to not understand the very basic tenets of journalism, which I worked really hard.
01:16:31.780 Not that I always understood this, but I really tried to grow and understand and listen to criticism over the years.
01:16:36.960 showing the other side of a story even if you strongly believe in one side you're telling does
01:16:42.500 not weaken the story it strengthens the story even if you're a liberal and you're telling a
01:16:47.920 liberal perspective the liberals in the audience actually appreciate knowing what the other side
01:16:52.060 of the argument is and i think barry weiss is simply trying to tug cbs news back a little bit
01:16:58.540 closer to the center but the inmates have been running that asylum for a long time and they're
01:17:03.860 not going to go down quietly you know down this new path is it too late to save the 60 minutes i
01:17:12.820 mean i i read that they were looking to put things now you know online i mean it seems like they have
01:17:18.180 a real plan to bring it into the you know 21st century um and revive it and i don't think losing
01:17:26.900 some of these you know names forever that were associated with television um is not i don't
01:17:33.600 necessarily think that's bad if they can get the formula right, which I always thought 60 minutes
01:17:40.380 was always very fair. I mean, you know, if you were on 60 minutes, you were in trouble because
01:17:45.740 they had the goods on you and it was balanced. You know, they would say, look, the other side
01:17:52.260 says this and they would really do their homework. I think there's a craving for that kind of work,
01:17:57.320 But can 60 Minutes do it?
01:18:01.260 I think so.
01:18:02.480 I think it's got a huge name.
01:18:04.480 I think the name 60 Minutes is bigger than any personality that's been there in recent years.
01:18:09.000 It hasn't been the 60 Minutes that we knew, Glenn, since they lost all the originals.
01:18:14.460 So it's always been something that's in transition in the past 10, 20, 25 years.
01:18:19.700 And yes, I think the name survives the personalities.
01:18:22.700 And they still do some, as I heard someone note, many of their stories that are unrelated to these political slants that you're talking about are great stories.
01:18:32.180 They still do good stories and can continue to do great journalism with other people, you know, other producers and other reporters.
01:18:38.940 There's not a short supply of people who want to do great journalism.
01:18:43.400 They're just not allowed to do that the way they used to be at the networks.
01:18:47.420 if you got a call today from barry or the new producer and they said we want you to come back
01:18:55.800 to 60 minutes or why don't you come back to cbs and to do 60 minutes would you even consider it
01:19:02.000 i couldn't now because i'm in contract i'm doing at least one more year of my tv program number one
01:19:09.460 number two i did get a call about a year ago asking about my availability for a leadership role
01:19:17.040 at CBS, CNN, Washington Post,
01:19:21.840 Berkeley School of Graduate Journalism, and ABC.
01:19:26.640 You know, they're all, this is what's talking to me,
01:19:29.080 but good, they want to,
01:19:32.020 I'm talking about the corporate executive level,
01:19:34.160 not the newsroom.
01:19:35.560 As I said, they want to tug their organizations
01:19:38.040 back closer to the middle.
01:19:39.340 They know they have a problem.
01:19:41.220 But as I told the person that I was speaking to
01:19:44.440 about these opportunities,
01:19:45.780 this is going to take somebody i hope barry weiss can do it that can stand up and then get the
01:19:52.280 support as the as internally she is murdered you know symbolically by those who don't want to
01:19:59.820 change she's got to stand firm and continue to get the support of the higher-ups despite the
01:20:04.760 publicity that will be generated against her and everything else that's a tough job that i didn't
01:20:10.600 think i could do time wise and everything else i hope she can and i would love to do stories for
01:20:17.620 60 minutes you know in some capacity if i weren't committed to something else because i do i do
01:20:24.140 believe in them and the mission and the program is is awesome and i think it it will survive and
01:20:30.040 i think they're thinking about the way to make it survive and be better which is great i have to
01:20:36.680 tell you um i i was shocked to see barry weiss go to cbs and all the moves that i've seen her make
01:20:45.520 i just think she's doing incredible work i don't agree with everything obviously um but um i think
01:20:52.120 she's doing incredible work yeoman's work i mean i don't know how she i don't know how she does it
01:20:58.540 every day you know there's i know you you know this feeling there's a way you walk into a room
01:21:03.380 every single day where you know all your co-workers hate your guts i worked at cnn i know that feeling
01:21:10.120 it's hard that is really hard that's right she's got to be tough tough tough and i don't know the
01:21:18.400 man that they appointed to lead 60 minutes but just on paper he sounds like a great choice
01:21:24.100 he's just not vested in the old system and the old people in a way that makes him more objective
01:21:29.500 about the decisions he's going to make
01:21:31.160 for the good of the show and nothing else.
01:21:33.260 You know, where there's no other baggage,
01:21:35.220 you know, dragging him down,
01:21:37.140 making him make decisions
01:21:38.120 that might not be the best
01:21:39.560 for what he thinks is the program.
01:21:42.440 Cheryl, thank you so much.
01:21:43.880 Always good to talk to you.
01:21:44.980 All my best.
01:21:45.820 Thanks, Glenn.
01:21:46.680 Thanks.
01:21:47.400 You bet.
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01:31:32.040 Vicki? Good morning, Glenn. How are you? I'm good, thank you. Great. I just absolutely love it.
01:31:37.960 uh so uh so vicky i i read this story earlier this week and i said this guy can't be in congress
01:31:48.060 how is he going to get how are we going to give him any kind of security clearance
01:31:52.660 because of his past fill us in on what you know of him and what your thoughts are all right i'm
01:31:59.560 going to read a little if you don't mind i want to run down only because i want to be extremely
01:32:03.900 accurate uh this guy is known to al-qaeda as an al-qaeda associate has a long relationship as the
01:32:12.080 mastermind of the 1993 world trade center bombings both before and after the bombing he worked with
01:32:21.300 the blind sheik okay including defending him in court he traveled to bosnia in the 1990s
01:32:29.960 and worked with an al-Qaeda front group after the October 7th attacks.
01:32:40.300 He traveled then to Gaza where he worked in a hospital
01:32:44.940 which was above a tunnel where the leader of Hamas was found.
01:32:50.480 Now in a sane world, this would be totally disqualifying.
01:32:54.520 then he joined the united states army and he worked as a surgeon how is this possible
01:33:02.120 all right so now blend we've got a democratic party who has totally given up
01:33:08.840 on on this for so many different reasons uh first of all they're weak second of all did
01:33:16.280 they adapt the attitude that why fight it we may as well join it uh but this guy is in the
01:33:23.920 12th district in new jersey that's the princeton district that is where my ivy tower i call them
01:33:30.960 ivy tower liberals that's where they live there's a very very wealthy part of new jersey and uh and
01:33:38.500 he won it and because it's so blue chances are he's going to maintain a seat in the united states
01:33:46.080 congress but there's other things i want to talk about let me give you some time it's your show
01:33:51.280 good no no i i just want to know so what do you do about that well i think we could start first
01:33:58.760 with the republicans making this an extreme uh serious case while they run for these midterm
01:34:04.640 elections republicans need to understand that this needs to become part of the everyday
01:34:10.740 conversations we are allowing terrorists into the congress into our our uh congressional body
01:34:19.480 And are you aware, and I'm sure the listeners are not aware, I wasn't aware until yesterday, that if the Democrats succeed in taking over the House in the midterm elections, they will appoint this guy.
01:34:36.220 If the Republicans maintain their, by one or two seats, if we hold this, we do not have to appoint this guy.
01:34:45.460 He does not have to come in and sit in Congress.
01:34:47.980 I don't think many people know that, but we have the ability not to cede him.
01:34:55.880 I have to tell you what, you know, I just got back from Europe and I saw how this is happening to Europe where, you know, you have these Islamists that are just taking over the cities, taking over, you know, the parliaments.
01:35:11.120 And everybody's just turning a blind eye to it.
01:35:13.880 I can't believe on the year of the 25th anniversary of 9-11, New Jersey, Todd Beamer's home district.
01:35:23.800 Crazy.
01:35:24.820 We've just, I mean, I said earlier today, Vicky, you could make a case that Osama bin Laden has either won or is winning.
01:35:37.660 Oh, yeah, absolutely.
01:35:38.780 I couldn't agree with you more on that.
01:35:40.820 When we look at our Constitution, you know, it's not a suicide pact, our Constitution.
01:35:47.640 And yet we have people who don't want to challenge this in any way, shape or form that sits in government right now.
01:35:56.140 How is this possible?
01:35:58.360 I'm going to tell you something.
01:36:00.080 The people are getting furious.
01:36:01.620 Who are the people?
01:36:02.580 The people are you and the people are me and the people like us.
01:36:06.360 We're not going to tolerate much more of this, Glenn.
01:36:08.760 uh this is we're in a very dangerous place and i think what does that mean to you vicky what does
01:36:14.460 that mean to you you're not going to tolerate much more of this what does that mean well you know what
01:36:18.880 uh there's going to be problems we have here in new york city zoran as our mayor and we're
01:36:27.500 watching what's happening i mean for example zoran appointed to uh that one of the uh unindicted
01:36:35.480 co-conspirators of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing sits as our chief counsel right now
01:36:42.960 in City Hall. This is what's going on in New York City. He's canceled block parties and permits for
01:36:52.560 block parties to celebrate the 250th anniversary of this great nation that we live in. And I have
01:37:01.100 to say people are getting more than fed up we're watching prayer mats getting laid out in front of
01:37:08.140 the very first firehouse that responded on 9-11 and this is mockery they are mocking us and you
01:37:16.020 made a very good point when you said in a sense are they winning well right now if you look around
01:37:22.640 you know the republicans are holding on tight as tight as they can and yet we can't pay we cannot
01:37:30.520 pass the SAFE Act. How is that possible, Glenn? How can we actually find asking for voter ID
01:37:38.700 an invasion of somebody's privacy? Why didn't this pass months ago with flying colors?
01:37:46.540 Why? People are weak. They are willing to accept this and use our constitution
01:37:53.280 and what our forefathers fought for and understood
01:37:59.280 and had foresight to see what we could not see
01:38:03.400 until we're in it right now.
01:38:05.020 This is bizarre.
01:38:07.120 We're not existing in a sane world, Glenn.
01:38:10.080 This is insanity.
01:38:12.000 I know, but thank God I'm not living where you are.
01:38:14.700 I mean, you're up in city council of New York City.
01:38:18.580 uh when i saw go ahead i'm saying anybody who speaks out as i have look i feel myself as a
01:38:29.260 truth teller uh people need to know an educated voter is the best voter that we've got uh and
01:38:36.900 they're able to make decisions you know those that are so far left and off a cliff you can't
01:38:42.560 bother with those folks you got to hit the democrats and the independents who are equally
01:38:47.440 as fed up as we are here in new york anyway uh we have to go after those folks we have to educate
01:38:53.760 you feel that you you feel that there are i mean because there's a great debate happens almost
01:38:59.080 every day within my own audience they're like glenn there's no democrat left that is they're
01:39:03.760 all crazy and i'm like no i don't think that's true i think they just have okay given up any
01:39:10.600 Yeah, go ahead.
01:39:12.460 Given up, not showing up to polls to vote the way they should.
01:39:18.740 You know, we have to, in my district, for example, it's a district 19.
01:39:24.080 I am in charge of one hundred and seventy five thousand people.
01:39:27.900 This is an eight to one Democrat seat.
01:39:31.000 And I am the first Republican that any of them have ever voted for.
01:39:35.180 Blue dog, blue dog.
01:39:37.360 Democrats said, Vicky, I'm voting for you.
01:39:40.600 And I won out of my three times running, two times was a landslide.
01:39:47.200 First time, they didn't know me so well.
01:39:49.040 Then I put myself in the belly of the beast and I educated the Democrats.
01:39:54.620 And it was very important that they understand that there's a sense of common sense still left.
01:40:00.700 But these young people who have taken over our city, that's a different story.
01:40:06.860 Because they're only passers-by.
01:40:08.680 they're not people who are going to put their roots here and stay here we've got a vested
01:40:14.200 interest in this city uh this guy won this young man has won uh and much to our dismay
01:40:22.240 he puts on that big stupid grin and he's winning over people every single day every single day
01:40:30.060 he's winning over people well i hope you're right i can't understand how
01:40:36.360 you know the blue dog democrat the person that was the average working guy
01:40:41.740 cannot relate to your average college professor and the republicans have always been seen as well
01:40:49.180 they're in with big business big business is a piece of cake compared to the college professors
01:40:53.840 if you want to talk about people of that are in and out of touch um but the big business is now
01:40:59.940 all on the left all big special interest is on the left uh and you have uh you know all the elites
01:41:06.700 all the eggheads on the left and i don't understand why more people don't see no no this is the
01:41:13.740 working class this is the average person against the elites and they're pretty much all on one side
01:41:20.440 right now you know we also have a media this is media driven propaganda just like in communism
01:41:28.860 You know, they don't hear the other side, our side. They're focused on one thing. Orange man bad, Trump bad, Republican bad. They're going to do this to you. They're going to do that to you.
01:41:42.720 And now when you back up that propaganda with the gazillions of different forms of media that people have to watch, and you've got the likes of Hassan, what's his name?
01:41:58.680 Yeah.
01:41:59.400 Yeah.
01:42:00.180 Piker.
01:42:01.540 And you've got these other folks that have got hundreds of millions of followers.
01:42:07.580 then you got your average abc for us here abc nbc cbs you know the average joe comes home from work
01:42:14.880 and they're they're flipping on their tv to watch the six o'clock news here in new york and they're
01:42:20.920 listening to cbs nbc our regular network news they're not going right away to cable they're
01:42:27.520 they're they might be in their kitchen preparing dinner they're not watching fox or they're not
01:42:33.020 watching you or they're not watching Newsmax or any of the News Nation any of the center they're
01:42:40.160 listening to just regular news that they've trusted for years and years and years and now
01:42:45.920 you're hearing your trusted news people telling you all false information totally false information
01:42:53.960 there might be a dabble or two of truth to it but they they don't elongate on it they stay stay
01:43:01.400 focused on 30-second news bites or 30-second news bites and people are
01:43:07.460 brainwashed every single day you pick up the newspaper you've got the you've got
01:43:13.400 the New York Times you've got the Daily News here in New York you've got your
01:43:18.520 other newspapers this is what people are reading so you have voices like yours
01:43:23.420 voices like mine other voices very similar to ours who are fighting left
01:43:29.740 and right and pardon the pun uh to try to get this message out uh so we've got a big election
01:43:37.300 coming up in new york for for the governor and i'm going to give bruce blakeman a big plug now
01:43:43.300 and i'm going to tell everybody that if we do not replace the new york state governor
01:43:48.340 this race in november and we don't cut the snake's head off we are in serious trouble
01:43:55.640 She has taken Anita Zoran Hochul.
01:43:58.400 Now we've watched it for the past year, and we're going to only watch it get worse and worse.
01:44:05.900 We'll have to have him on.
01:44:07.000 What's his name again?
01:44:08.680 Ready for governor?
01:44:09.940 Bruce Blakeman.
01:44:12.220 Okay.
01:44:13.280 I can hope you are.
01:44:14.140 Vicki, thank you.
01:44:15.400 All right.
01:44:15.900 Good.
01:44:16.440 Thank you.
01:44:17.560 I appreciate it.
01:44:18.300 Vicki Palatino.
01:44:19.180 She is Palatino.
01:44:20.080 She is the New York City Councilwoman on the New Jersey 12th District.
01:44:25.640 Uh, the guy who is not a good guy, not a good guy. Uh, and I don't know how we can have him in
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01:51:12.320 welcome to the glennbeck program there's a lot of stuff going on uh that i need you to have
01:51:36.680 perspective on and and uh you know my job is to try to keep you ahead um you know every every show
01:51:44.020 will tell you what's happening today uh i tried to give you perspective on what is happening today
01:51:50.360 but more importantly focus on what's over the horizon tomorrow so you're not surprised by it
01:51:55.800 you have time to prepare for impact um and there is something um coming um and you know i've had my
01:52:05.320 view of this Iraq war
01:52:08.300 and whether you like it or not
01:52:12.220 we're in it
01:52:12.920 and the last thing we can do
01:52:15.520 is walk away
01:52:20.580 how do you walk away
01:52:22.760 what message are you sending
01:52:25.000 yesterday
01:52:27.240 in Congress
01:52:28.960 what was that vote 215
01:52:32.240 to 208
01:52:33.660 yeah
01:52:35.180 Okay, so four Republicans sided with the Democrats to say the president has to stop this, stop the hostilities.
01:52:44.900 It's going to go to the Senate, but the president will just veto it.
01:52:47.220 It's really nothing.
01:52:48.560 But it is really important when you understand what is actually happening.
01:52:56.920 So let me go through a couple of things that happened today and see if I can give you some perspective on it.
01:53:00.740 earlier this week Trump uh you know um was yelling at Benjamin Netanyahu on the phone
01:53:09.360 and there are some people that were saying that's crazy we should arrest the person that leaked this
01:53:14.500 blah blah blah no it wasn't a leak I I can I almost guarantee you and now I think I can guarantee
01:53:20.480 you it wasn't a leak that came from Trump he didn't mind that out Trump is his own guy and
01:53:25.780 he does not mind when I mean he'll say he said it with the people standing right next to him
01:53:30.560 yeah i gave him hell on this one i gotta tell you he's a bozo on this one but we get along he does
01:53:36.560 not have a problem saying that so he and bb netanyahu are on the uh phone uh and he just
01:53:45.600 starts swearing up a storm at bb netanyahu and telling him you're not going to do these things
01:53:50.380 you're not you're not you're not you're not here he is in an interview with uh the new york post
01:53:56.300 Miranda Devine, talking about this terse phone call.
01:54:02.060 Listen, cut one.
01:54:02.960 Axios reported that you had a phone call with Bibi Netanyahu,
01:54:06.420 the Prime Minister of Israel, in which you were angry with him.
01:54:09.660 You said, are you effing crazy?
01:54:11.360 What are you effing doing?
01:54:14.060 I helped you stay out of jail.
01:54:16.180 Is that true?
01:54:17.080 Did you speak to him in those terms?
01:54:18.360 I did.
01:54:18.840 I don't want to say angry.
01:54:20.160 I was a little bit perturbed at his constantly fighting with Lebanon.
01:54:28.660 You know, at some point I said, Bibi, we've got to stop this.
01:54:32.620 We've got to stop it.
01:54:33.740 But I have a very good relationship.
01:54:35.700 We've done well together.
01:54:37.840 He always says we could never have done it, but everybody knows that we could have never done it without the United States.
01:54:44.420 But I've worked very well together.
01:54:46.880 I like Bibi a lot.
01:54:50.160 here he goes on um to say that he's a good wartime president and he and bb is a good
01:54:57.620 uh wartime prime minister and that's a really interesting thing to say that donald trump
01:55:04.820 considers himself a wartime president because he is he is and i don't mean that just literally
01:55:11.400 it is also figuratively um but so i don't believe and i said this at the time don't believe that
01:55:19.220 this is a leak. Don't go down that rabbit hole. This is not a leak. This is Donald Trump. This
01:55:23.780 is the way he deals with things. And then he said, he was asked about the ceasefire, you know,
01:55:30.520 because I read again, I got up this morning, I read yet another story. Looks like maybe this
01:55:35.080 weekend we'll have a deal on the ceasefire. We're not going to get a deal on a ceasefire. It's not
01:55:38.740 going to happen. Okay. It's not going to happen. You will understand why in about 25 minutes from
01:55:45.300 now because I'm going to do a special at torch glenbeck.com slash torch you are going to
01:55:50.060 understand exactly what's happening and what is coming next I I feel very confident that this is
01:55:56.840 what's coming next and I'll show you all the evidence that points to it but we're not getting
01:56:02.160 in a ceasefire deal but you know he said they've got a ceasefire now and Miranda said what how what
01:56:09.040 is a ceasefire exactly can you define that listen to this how do you define ceasefire pretty much
01:56:15.120 the way it is it's a different part of the world you know i'd say in that part of the world
01:56:18.320 ceasefire is when you're shooting in a more moderate manner
01:56:21.700 what exactly is shooting in a more moderate manner i'm not sure but okay let me give you
01:56:34.100 one more breadcrumb here uh that will show you where i'm i'm headed uh on our chalkboard here
01:56:41.180 in about 20 minutes.
01:56:42.600 I want to play a piece of audio
01:56:43.980 that we found from the 1990s.
01:56:46.660 This is the future IRGC leader,
01:56:49.660 the Islamic Republican Guard,
01:56:52.260 the ones that are running everything now,
01:56:55.120 supposedly, in Iran.
01:57:02.120 Listen to what he said their plan would be
01:57:04.260 if they ever got into a war with the U.S.
01:57:06.660 in the 1990s.
01:57:08.020 Listen.
01:57:11.180 Hold on just a second, hold on just a second, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, do we not translate
01:57:25.840 this? This is all in... Translate at the bottom of the screen? You don't know how to translate
01:57:30.460 Farsi? I can't, no, I don't, I don't, I don't speak Farsi. Jason can translate. And can you
01:57:37.260 translate i can't see the screen it's too small yeah do you want to play translate and we read
01:57:43.840 it or yeah play it and then you translate it okay go ahead so this allows for the possibility of
01:57:48.840 eroding the war and prolonging it we say this because the advantage is that our enemies
01:57:53.100 the superpowers are looking to shorten their time in the war as much as possible
01:58:00.860 This shortening is for several reasons.
01:58:04.000 One is because the economy cost of the Americans taking action in far-off areas is really high.
01:58:11.060 And another one of them is that casualties are not acceptable.
01:58:18.100 They seek quick victories, and one of the advantages is that this creates political tensions within their country.
01:58:23.760 That is, through this work, presidents are changed, and in general, domestic political structures become tense.
01:58:30.860 due to the prolongation of the war.
01:58:36.580 It's a prophetic.
01:58:39.120 Jason, Jason, Ricky,
01:58:41.440 you've heard me talk about
01:58:42.760 what I'm going to talk about today
01:58:44.460 for days now,
01:58:46.520 over a week,
01:58:48.200 and we just got this today.
01:58:51.700 Does that not prove everything
01:58:53.700 that I'm going to say in today's special?
01:58:59.020 Absolutely right.
01:59:00.860 Yeah, it shows that there is a definite plan to combat the United States, but not just the United States, but the West in general. And by and large, that plan, this is something they've been working on, I would say, probably since 1979, how they continue this.
01:59:15.920 and they know our system just just as much as we are they feel like as long as they stretch it what
01:59:20.920 he was saying was as long as we stretch this out for as long as possible due to politics and public
01:59:25.820 opinion we'll eventually win because americans in the west have no appetite to keep this up to
01:59:31.940 continue it to see it through and that's have we been baited
01:59:35.800 um yes and no donald trump hasn't been baited i just think that he thought he could
01:59:47.620 win it faster than he he is um and now
01:59:52.540 uh now he's seeing we can't collapse these guys economically we can't collapse them from the
02:00:02.400 inside at least quickly um and so now he's sitting here with an enemy saying this and it's a
02:00:10.620 different ball game entirely it's a different ball game and look at what they just said at that
02:00:15.240 chalkboard everything he was writing up on the chalkboard is what's happening right now an
02:00:21.040 election is coming that presidential power could change um the congress he said that they would
02:00:28.500 start to get weak first um the people would get weak because of the economy they wouldn't want
02:00:34.120 any bodies you know piling up etc etc i mean they know us we don't we don't know them they know us
02:00:42.000 i think one of the things that's really fascinating it's fascinating and i i think one of the things
02:00:47.620 he was not talking about back in the 90s is how bad public opinion within iran would be uh you
02:00:53.040 know in 2026 it's it's awful it's been that way since the obama administration it's just it's
02:00:58.260 been on, you know, the very, very brink of explosion and their people are not happy with
02:01:03.980 them. The economic situation is disastrous. I don't know if they could have predicted how bad
02:01:10.180 it would get as it is now. Their vast majority of their military is just gone. Did I tell you
02:01:17.140 that I actually spoke to a Iranian defector when I was on my vacation in Italy? And I asked this
02:01:25.180 person straight up i said and this person was uh young uh probably around maybe 20 years old i said
02:01:31.860 what do the youth feel like how are the people feeling how are the youth feeling and they said
02:01:36.400 the vast majority of the country 90 plus were against the regime not only that but think the
02:01:43.200 regime is evil and they are backing the crown prince that shocked me probably the most they
02:01:50.920 said yes the vast majority of them are backing the crown prince that this is something they did
02:01:57.080 not plan for in the 90s guaranteed and that's still a big factor in how this turns out in the
02:02:02.860 future i was in the um the czech republic i was in prague and i'm standing there in the center
02:02:13.560 square of the capital and uh these people start setting up a a booth that uh has an american flag
02:02:24.380 an israeli flag and an iranian flag the flag with the lion on it the you know the real iranian flag
02:02:32.860 not the islamic republic flag and i thought oh boy this is going to be interesting because i knew
02:02:38.900 that in just a few minutes what was coming through that square was a bunch of palestinian protesters
02:02:44.520 um and i thought what the hell is going to happen and me with my american passport i'm going to go
02:02:53.180 stand over off to the side and just watch the palestinians left those guys alone what they did
02:03:00.640 though was really they didn't win any friends they were kind of a pain in the ass to all of
02:03:08.000 the tourists and all everybody else that was, was there in the square. Um, but there was no violence
02:03:14.040 or anything else. So they leave. Um, and it was pretty pathetic, but they left. And then I went
02:03:20.060 over to, I said, which one of you guys is Iranian? Um, and a couple of them said, we are. And, uh,
02:03:28.500 I said, so what do you think about what's happening there? What are the people thinking?
02:03:32.000 and oh my gosh they became so animated and they were like we are going to win we all know this
02:03:40.740 is our only chance this will never come again maybe for another 50 or 60 or 70 years we cannot
02:03:49.220 fail everyone that we know that are on the streets in iran knows this is our only chance this may be
02:03:56.060 the last chance for freedom. Please. Are you an American? Yes. Please don't stop. Please don't
02:04:01.880 stop. Please don't stop. And I'm like, well, I'm not the one making the decisions on that one.
02:04:08.160 But, you know, good luck. Good luck. So that seems to be the sentiment that I have heard as well,
02:04:15.040 but I don't see them on the streets. But the consequence of being on the streets now is so
02:04:20.300 extraordinarily high. I'm going to show you a completely different view of all of this. It's
02:04:25.920 not just Iran. It's Russia. It's Europe. It's all of our allies overseas. It is us. It's what's
02:04:33.720 coming our way. And it revolves around a clock and a DeLorean.
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02:06:43.820 so ricky i got into the break and ricky said um okay that sounded a little doomsday that sounds
02:07:04.720 a little depressing what you're going to talk about and uh and she said i read what you wrote
02:07:09.200 last night i don't think that's doomsday did you add something i'm like no no it's not
02:07:13.080 But there's a really good way out.
02:07:24.280 There's a really good way out.
02:07:25.600 And there's a great wild card.
02:07:28.160 And this is the one that no one can predict.
02:07:31.540 And I think just by saying wild card that no one can predict,
02:07:35.440 you can guess what that wild card or who that wild card is.
02:07:39.220 but there is a change you know when when Donald Trump got in he was wild card even for us I mean
02:07:48.220 he told me one-on-one look me like Glenn you know I have no idea how fast we're gonna move
02:07:53.740 oh I'm sure we are and I was even my breath was taken away I was like what is happening I've
02:08:01.040 never seen anything like this the whole world felt like that well there's been a change now
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02:08:15.340 and understand it and explain it to your friends but also exactly what we need to do and what we
02:08:21.340 need not to do uh to be able to uh survive this next turn of global events and that's coming up
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