The Glenn Beck Program - 'The Time to Pay Attention is Now＂

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00:00:09.780 Love. Courage. Truth. Glenn Beck.

00:00:16.200 I have never asked you to trust me. I have always asked you to do your own homework.

00:00:22.580 To take what we say and look it up and use honest questions to find the truth.

00:00:30.540 This may be the only audience in America that has a chance to correct the course.

00:00:38.720 Because we have been talking to you about something for four years.

00:00:45.100 And most people have not paid attention.

00:00:47.000 But the time to pay attention is right now.

00:00:52.140 The European far right is coming now officially to CPAC.

00:00:58.880 One hour after our Vice President Mike Pence leaves the stage, Marion Le Pen, the 28-year-old photogenic it girl from France's National Front, will address the conference.

00:01:14.540 I know Matchlap. I don't know what Matchlap is doing.

00:01:19.860 We've invited him on the program to explain this today.

00:01:24.660 This encapsulates every reason why I have said, if we don't wake up, we are screwed.

00:01:35.780 And I'll come back to that.

00:01:37.140 First, if you don't know who Marion Le Pen is and the National Front, Marion is considered the third Le Pen in France.

00:01:46.060 Her grandfather, Le Pen No. 1, founded the National Front Party primarily as the anti-communist movement.

00:01:54.800 Okay, that sounds great.

00:01:56.980 But Hitler was also an anti-communist movement.

00:02:01.120 So let's be careful here.

00:02:03.520 His platform was extreme nationalism, racism, and full of anti-Semitism.

00:02:10.640 If you're just tuning in, I'm not describing the Nazis.

00:02:14.460 Well, I mean, I guess I am.

00:02:15.840 I'm describing Grandpa Le Pen.

00:02:18.920 He recently called Jews dying in the gas chambers a, quote, minor detail of history, and, quote, France and Russia need to team up to defend the white world, end quote.

00:02:37.840 Now, you can imagine how those views don't go over well with most Frenchmen and shouldn't go over well with any conservatives.

00:02:47.940 Now, Le Pen No. 2, Marine.

00:02:52.560 Marine took upon herself to polish up the party's image and make them more mainstream.

00:02:56.860 She tuned down, you know, the racist rhetoric.

00:03:00.840 She kept the extreme nationalism, but she turned the National Front away from free market capitalism and towards socialism.

00:03:09.980 The National Front is for a gigantic welfare state.

00:03:15.300 Hmm.

00:03:16.020 One, extreme nationalism and socialism.

00:03:21.580 National socialists.

00:03:23.720 Wow, they're very anti-communist.

00:03:27.040 Marine even proposed abortions on tap with full public reimbursement.

00:03:32.820 If you're tuning in, again, I'm not describing the Nazis.

00:03:37.400 Kind of.

00:03:38.240 I'm describing France's National Front.

00:03:42.060 Now, their poster girl, Marion Le Pen No. 3, will actually be on stage this week speaking to conservatives.

00:03:52.700 She is not her watered-down Aunt Marine.

00:03:56.980 She is more akin to the OG, Grandpa Le Pen.

00:04:01.640 Grandpa loves her.

00:04:03.940 Now, I've mentioned this before, but this is why we're screwed.

00:04:09.680 The right currently has three sides to it, and no one is actually being honest with you.

00:04:17.600 The left media doesn't care.

00:04:20.720 There are too many people in the right media that also have sold their souls.

00:04:27.980 For a ratings point, for a buck, whatever it is, they are unwilling to say unpopular things to the mass.

00:04:38.980 But in dire times, somebody better stand up.

00:04:46.880 I'm hoping it's you.

00:04:50.740 The three sides of the conservative movement right now are those who are drifting to the left through populism.

00:04:59.740 They are now the ones who are seemingly for universal health care.

00:05:05.340 They're seemingly for all of the things that they fought against, but they're drifting there because of populism.

00:05:15.900 Then you have the constitutional minority, the ones who actually believe that classic liberalism is right,

00:05:28.100 that man should be free to decide for himself, and the Constitution is the best framework to make that happen.

00:05:37.060 And then, unfortunately, there are those that are drifting towards the far or alt-right.

00:05:46.440 CPAC is trying to cater to all of them, but that is not what is needed.

00:05:53.300 Look at the serious issues that people have been screaming for their government to address.

00:05:59.840 Immigration!

00:06:01.500 Silence from the left.

00:06:03.960 Silence from the mainstream right.

00:06:06.300 Silence from many conservatives.

00:06:08.440 What about the job loss in middle America?

00:06:11.280 Silence all around.

00:06:13.300 We'll play nationalism.

00:06:15.200 We'll point fingers to China.

00:06:17.080 It's ridiculous that the only people giving voice to real issues are people on the far left and the far right.

00:06:27.780 The deafening silence is driving movements like France's National Front to become more mainstream.

00:06:36.260 They're beginning to co-opt what used to be conservative-only groups.

00:06:41.400 Last year, CPAC invited Milo.

00:06:46.760 I talked to Matt Schlapp.

00:06:48.620 I said, Matt, what are you doing, man?

00:06:50.580 It was a mistake.

00:06:52.020 We got rid of him.

00:06:53.180 Glenn, blah, blah, blah.

00:06:55.120 Matt, I believed you.

00:06:56.700 I believed you.

00:06:58.620 Now, this year, it's the National Socialist.

00:07:03.120 It is the National Front.

00:07:05.480 It's Marion Le Pen.

00:07:09.400 Please come on, my friend.

00:07:11.400 And explain this.

00:07:12.680 Because I do not understand what you're doing.

00:07:16.000 I do not understand what a conservative movement in America has anything to do with the European conservatives of France.

00:07:26.620 You are playing in to exactly what people like Alexander Dugan

00:07:32.840 and the world national conservative movement that is funded and run by Russia wants you to do.

00:07:42.960 It was Milo last year.

00:07:45.340 Le Pen this year.

00:07:46.520 What's next?

00:07:48.120 Will CPAC 2019 have Richard Spencer keynote?

00:07:52.280 This trajectory is dangerous and out of control.

00:07:59.440 The far and alt-right are actively trying to weasel its way into mainstream conservative circles.

00:08:09.060 And because people have not done their own homework, because we all just want to believe that Nazis are a thing of the past,

00:08:19.120 that Nazis are just these little unconnected groups of weirdos,

00:08:23.940 you don't see what's happening across the world.

00:08:28.380 The world national conservative movement was started in St. Petersburg a few years ago.

00:08:38.340 People like Richard Spencer and others here in the United States are part of it.

00:08:44.920 The alt-right is a Nazi movement.

00:08:55.800 And we must get away from national socialists.

00:09:03.000 If we do not put our foot down now, if we don't stand for something now,

00:09:09.420 we are in grave danger of losing it all.

00:09:14.920 It's Tuesday, February 20th.

00:09:22.780 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:09:29.020 They're going to be friendless.

00:09:31.380 You know, it's always going to be a good show when you get the grunting return over the music.

00:09:37.800 I don't want to be this guy.

00:09:41.040 I don't want to be the one.

00:09:42.800 Well, you should want to be the guy who calls out a national socialist appearing at conservative conventions.

00:09:48.160 I guess I don't want to be the only one.

00:09:50.440 Right, okay.

00:09:50.840 I don't want to be the only one.

00:09:52.420 I mean, I'm begging you, please, please, do your own homework.

00:10:00.780 Go to YouTube and watch the blackboards that we just did on the hashtag 120 decibel movement.

00:10:12.160 Look at that.

00:10:16.020 It'll take you 20 minutes in three quick chalkboards, and you will understand what's happening to us.

00:10:26.300 I want to play something.

00:10:27.880 Now, I want to play this, and I want you to understand this has nothing to do with Donald Trump.

00:10:34.440 This had nothing to do with him winning.

00:10:37.800 If anyone, you know, orchestrated things for him to win, here's who orchestrated it.

00:10:45.560 Hillary Clinton for being awful.

00:10:48.240 And Comey for coming out and the last week and saying, you know, I think we might be looking into dirt.

00:10:58.120 If anyone affected the election, it's Hillary Clinton being awful and Comey of the FBI.

00:11:07.360 The Russians only wanted chaos.

00:11:11.200 In my opinion, Trump was acceptable to them because it wasn't Hillary Clinton, and he provided chaos.

00:11:23.840 I do not believe that he was involved with Russia.

00:11:28.740 I do not believe that he even understands the alt-right.

00:11:32.420 But with Bannon and others like him, Russia understood that they understood this national movement and this nationalism that is spreading like poison all around the world.

00:11:49.300 National socialists.

00:11:51.540 We want big state, big spending, and nationalist values.

00:12:00.140 It's trouble.

00:12:01.220 It is trouble.

00:12:05.100 I want to play some audio for you.

00:12:08.820 Donald Trump is not recognizing the fact that we are under attack.

00:12:17.580 I can't do anything about Donald Trump.

00:12:20.000 I can't do anything about the government.

00:12:22.120 But I can do something with CPAC.

00:12:25.100 I can stand up and say, no national socialists.

00:12:32.320 No nationalists.

00:12:34.880 It's dangerous.

00:12:37.480 What is a conservative?

00:12:39.240 If you're a populist, then I don't want to be a conservative.

00:12:42.120 If you're a nationalist, I don't want to be a conservative.

00:12:46.160 If you are a constitutionalist, somebody who believes in the rights of man, then I'm a conservative.

00:12:54.640 But I don't know what a conservative means if you're bringing in Le Pen.

00:12:58.640 Alexander Dugan is a man we have told you about.

00:13:08.420 And quite honestly, every time I bring him up, it's like when I was bringing up Woodrow Wilson at the very beginning.

00:13:14.260 And everybody had an eye roll.

00:13:16.960 I'm going to play some audio that we have played before.

00:13:21.220 But what he says at the very end of this video is crucial to understand.

00:13:30.640 Our republic is at stake.

00:13:34.400 Someone must stand to defend the Constitution of the United States because we are under attack from a foreign power.

00:13:47.540 And CPAC is playing into it.

00:13:53.140 I'm going to play this audio for you.

00:13:55.520 And if you happen to be watching the Blaze TV, I want you to watch because of the video that it is attached to.

00:14:01.220 It was recorded with Red Square in the background.

00:14:08.640 And they tell us exactly what they're going to do in the last election.

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00:16:15.400 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

00:16:25.140 Gun control works in other countries.

00:16:27.040 40% of all guns are sold without background checks.

00:16:29.560 More guns means more murder.

00:16:31.060 Mass shootings are becoming more common.

00:16:33.700 You've heard all these lines a thousand times.

00:16:36.540 Know the facts.

00:16:37.900 Get control.

00:16:38.900 Exposing the truth about guns on Amazon and wherever books are sold.

00:16:42.100 National socialists take guns away from people.

00:16:48.700 I want to play.

00:16:50.140 There's an identitarian movement that is going on.

00:16:53.640 And it is something you need to educate yourself on.

00:16:56.100 The identitarian movement.

00:16:58.060 It is a movement about identity.

00:17:00.520 It is a movement about white people stay over here.

00:17:02.840 And black people stay over here.

00:17:04.800 And Jews, I don't know where you go.

00:17:08.160 It's very dangerous.

00:17:10.020 And it is all part of what's called the fourth political theory, which is poison.

00:17:15.720 And it is taking root in Europe.

00:17:20.140 And it is being well financed and funded by Russia.

00:17:24.640 Alexander Dugan is the author of the fourth political theory.

00:17:28.960 You may hear him if you ever listen to Alex Jones, because they embrace him.

00:17:33.540 Um, um, um, uh, what's his name?

00:17:37.340 Steve Bannon embraced him as well.

00:17:39.760 He is extraordinarily dangerous.

00:17:41.900 If you want to know, was, was Russia involved in the Trump campaign?

00:17:49.100 I don't think by, by Donald Trump's understanding of it at all.

00:17:53.560 But Dugan, listen to Alexander Dugan, where he spoke with red square behind him.

00:18:02.780 Trump is the voice of the real right wing in America, which in effect doesn't care about

00:18:10.280 foreign policy and American hegemony.

00:18:13.240 It only cares about the second amendment and the good old traditions of the single storied

00:18:20.340 or at least two-storied America, a predictable way of life on the range and expressing freedom

00:18:27.740 wherever they like, but not how the liberals prescribe it.

00:18:33.120 It is nice America, often religious, sometimes silly, preconceived, unpretentious, just ordinary

00:18:40.700 people without any special talents, but also without perversions.

00:18:46.060 There are a few people of this kind in the American elite, or perhaps none at all.

00:18:53.500 Trump is an exception, a normal American among the elitist circus.

00:19:00.340 This is first truly interesting election campaign.

00:19:05.140 It shows that America is on the brink of a revolution, especially if the elite won't give

00:19:13.580 the power to people.

00:19:16.000 Goodbye.

00:19:17.000 You've watched Dugan's guideline on Super Tuesday.

00:19:20.780 I've got the feeling that the liberals themselves won't leave the US and the humanity alone.

00:19:28.020 We should have them to do that.

00:19:31.740 So go ahead, Mr. Trump.

00:19:34.880 In Trump we trust.

00:19:37.240 Did Trump even know about this?

00:19:39.440 Nope.

00:19:40.560 Nope.

00:19:40.960 Did Bannon?

00:19:43.540 Yeah.

00:19:44.980 Did Flynn?

00:19:46.660 Probably not.

00:19:49.760 He said some amazing things there, and you can hear, if you could understand him, you

00:19:55.380 can hear why his fourth political theory actually connects with people.

00:20:02.000 But there was one thing that he said that sticks out, and I'll share that when we come back.

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00:20:31.440 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:41.760 So I just played some Alexander Dugan, and look, you're going to hear a lot of people say

00:20:46.440 nationalism is good.

00:20:47.920 Globalism is bad.

00:20:50.200 No.

00:20:51.300 The globalist movement where we're all exactly the same, that's bad.

00:20:57.620 I'm American.

00:20:59.880 I want to be American.

00:21:01.120 You're Mexico.

00:21:02.060 You should want to be in Mexico.

00:21:03.920 Canada should want to be Canada.

00:21:05.840 We can trade with each other, but we don't have to be all exactly the same.

00:21:12.040 That's the problem.

00:21:13.700 When governments get out of control, they try to make everyone the same.

00:21:19.320 That's the problem.

00:21:20.680 We're all different.

00:21:21.940 We should be different.

00:21:22.980 Italy should be Italy.

00:21:25.240 Now, can you trade with each other?

00:21:27.440 Yes.

00:21:28.940 But trying to make everything homogenous is not good.

00:21:34.300 But extreme nationalism is also very unhealthy.

00:21:40.020 The movement that is underfoot now to poison the conservative movement and to make us truly

00:21:52.680 European conservatives is underway, and its architect is Alexander Dugan in Russia.

00:22:00.480 Did you notice that he said when we played this audio a minute ago at the very end, before

00:22:06.520 he said in Trump we trust, he said we should help them do it, give the people power, we should

00:22:16.420 help them do it.

00:22:17.780 He's speaking to his world conservative movement.

00:22:23.420 What does that mean?

00:22:24.860 Dugan, that means sow the seeds of discontent, sow the seeds against the media, against the

00:22:36.080 governments, against anyone he deems an oppressor.

00:22:42.600 Well, just because a government is out of control does not make it oppressive.

00:22:46.640 It just makes it too big and can be reduced.

00:22:49.640 That's not what Dugan is looking for.

00:22:53.760 The National Front, which their spokesperson is going to be speaking at CPAC, wants a France-Russia

00:23:04.680 alliance.

00:23:07.300 That's a pretty big change and not necessarily a good one.

00:23:11.140 That they've described Putin as the religious defender of European Christianity.

00:23:23.500 That's a problem.

00:23:28.540 What does it mean to be a conservative anymore?

00:23:30.860 I'm not sure.

00:23:32.020 We've been working with young voices and there is a contributor to the lone conservative and

00:23:46.000 he has written an article for glennbeck.com.

00:23:49.540 I'm going to butcher his last name.

00:23:52.040 Morris Shahnu, Alex Morris Shahnu.

00:23:54.660 Did I get that right, Alex?

00:23:56.300 Sorry.

00:23:57.020 Yeah, you got it.

00:23:57.680 You got it actually, Glenn.

00:23:58.620 Shut up.

00:24:00.280 So, Alex, you wrote this great article on the things that young conservatives, millennials

00:24:08.160 will love that only conservatives can do.

00:24:12.020 So let me start, before we get into some of those, let me start with this.

00:24:14.820 What is a conservative today?

00:24:18.040 Well, what is a conservative today might be a complicated question, as I think you've well

00:24:23.220 discovered it throughout the show so far.

00:24:25.100 But I would say, to me, a conservative, what a conservative should be is someone who believes

00:24:30.480 in, to quote Barry Goldwater, the maximization of human freedom.

00:24:35.040 I think that should be the guidepost of how we think of conservatives, that people should

00:24:40.200 be able to chart their own course and live their life as they see fit.

00:24:45.160 Are you concerned, Alex, or do you see anybody your age concerned about this new movement towards

00:24:51.460 the alt-right?

00:24:53.980 Yeah.

00:24:54.440 Yeah.

00:24:54.640 I know a lot of people, my Republican or conservative, a lot of them don't call themselves

00:25:00.420 Republicans anymore, friends, are very concerned about the sort of rising tide of sort of quote,

00:25:08.480 unquote, national populism or whatever.

00:25:10.800 I think there are a lot of people who are concerned about this.

00:25:13.620 You're not alone, Glenn.

00:25:14.540 Okay.

00:25:15.360 So, Alex, take it through the article, because please read the article at glenbeck.com.

00:25:20.080 It's really, really good.

00:25:21.800 You're bringing up things that are so important that conservatives should be talking about.

00:25:27.500 For instance, freeing people from occupational licensing.

00:25:33.560 Yeah.

00:25:34.100 And so I think occupational licensing is a good way to get it in with millennials.

00:25:38.380 I mean, obviously, millennials at this point aren't, you know, marching for occupational

00:25:42.320 licensing reform, but I think occupational licensing, for those who don't know, there are requirements

00:25:48.900 that the government mandates that you need a license to perform 30% of jobs in the United

00:25:53.720 States.

00:25:55.820 And theoretically, it's for public health purposes, but the real reason why there's occupational

00:26:00.820 licensing is just to drive up the wages of current license holders at expense of the

00:26:05.280 general population.

00:26:06.760 According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, it costs $200 billion a year in GDP.

00:26:11.560 And that mostly comes out of lower income people, because these are people who are being forced

00:26:19.300 out by the government due to these barriers to entry, and they can't find the jobs that

00:26:24.420 would get them into the middle class.

00:26:26.120 And so I think bringing up this issue with a lot of young people would be good, because

00:26:29.840 young people care about equality of opportunity or, you know, better wages and better living

00:26:35.060 conditions for the poor.

00:26:36.300 And so I think bringing these up, this is an example of a policy of government regulation

00:26:41.900 that specifically hurts the poor.

00:26:43.880 And so I think if you focus on occupational licensing, you introduce a lot of young people

00:26:48.940 to the value of limited government, while at the same time appealing to their own moral

00:26:52.700 sensibilities.

00:26:53.540 Do you have any idea?

00:26:54.320 I mean, it takes less time to earn an EMT license than to become a licensed manicurist, as you write

00:27:00.440 in your article.

00:27:01.660 Can you tell me, what is the, I understand even, you know, Barber, you're using a straight

00:27:07.860 edge razor.

00:27:09.080 Okay, we should probably get to make sure that you know how to use that.

00:27:14.000 The florist, how is, why do I have to have a license to be a florist?

00:27:19.460 Any idea?

00:27:20.040 Well, I mean, it's like a lot of government regulations, you know, they're supported by

00:27:25.420 specific interest groups.

00:27:26.720 I mean, that's the origin of a lot of regulation, you know, the history of government regulation

00:27:30.880 in the United States.

00:27:32.000 And there was this study done by the Institute for Justice, I believe, which is a legal advocacy

00:27:36.120 group that showed that they compared, so licensing tends to be done at the state level.

00:27:42.040 And so they compared a florist in a state, in Louisiana, where florists have to be licensed,

00:27:49.120 and the works of florists in Texas, where florists do not have to be licensed.

00:27:53.560 And to a, like, panel of judges, no one could tell the difference between the unlicensed

00:27:58.900 florist and the licensed florist.

00:28:01.240 So that's a really good example of how there's clearly no reason for these regulations.

00:28:06.380 The next thing that you say that conservatives can take on to appeal to millennials is something

00:28:12.300 I think really important, but misunderstood, and that is incarceration.

00:28:17.260 Take on the prison system.

00:28:20.300 Yeah.

00:28:20.960 So I think a lot of conservatives, especially young conservatives, I know, are already very

00:28:24.680 much on board for criminal justice reform.

00:28:27.360 But I think the sort of way to bridge the gap between a lot of sort of older, sort of law

00:28:32.060 and older type conservatives and younger, more reform-minded people, is to think about

00:28:37.500 recidivism.

00:28:38.300 So in the United States, the recidivism rate, which means the rate of people who leave prison

00:28:43.540 and enter back into the system, is extremely high.

00:28:47.600 It's like 76% over the first five years.

00:28:50.540 And so that means that you're, instead of having sort of people who go to prison for a

00:28:57.300 few years and then come out and then are readjusted to society, you end up having people who

00:29:01.580 haven't learned any skills, who haven't adjusted socially, who are just going to end up going

00:29:05.480 back to whatever criminal activities they were doing beforehand because they can't enter

00:29:08.600 the workforce.

00:29:09.380 And so focusing on, once people get out of prison, introducing them back into the workforce,

00:29:14.900 which is, you know, A, that means lower spending on prison, on incarceration, as well as,

00:29:23.040 you know, a better economy if they can get out and enter the workforce.

00:29:27.260 Alex, you also take on higher education.

00:29:29.820 Is that something that millennials will get behind?

00:29:35.660 Yeah, I think so.

00:29:37.220 So the example I used in the article was Mitch Daniels at Purdue University.

00:29:41.600 Mitch Daniels, the great former governor of Indiana and Office of Management and Budget

00:29:46.800 Director.

00:29:48.360 He, when he took charge of Purdue University, he froze tuition and managed to compensate for

00:29:56.860 that by slashing administrative spending.

00:29:58.580 Now, administrative spending, according to the known right-wing rag, the New York Times,

00:30:04.800 has been the leading driver of the drastic higher education cost inflation.

00:30:12.480 Over the past 20 years, administrative spending is up 60% versus instructional spending, which

00:30:17.780 is only up 6%.

00:30:18.580 Wow.

00:30:20.560 And so Mitch Daniels, he went after administrative spending, hasn't increased tuition in, I believe,

00:30:27.000 six years that he's been there.

00:30:29.480 Applications have skyrocketed.

00:30:31.540 And he's also introduced a lot of new technical options, shorter ways to graduate, online options,

00:30:37.500 which is sort of good, innovative policy, and applications have skyrocketed.

00:30:42.400 So clearly, millennials have responded to these policy changes.

00:30:46.840 Talking to Alex Morishanu, he is with youngvoicesadvocate.com.

00:30:53.840 And we are seeing now a movement of high school kids that say they're going to march on Washington

00:31:03.740 to have guns repealed and our gun rights repealed.

00:31:08.600 What do you think the approach to millennials should be from people who understand the Second

00:31:15.860 Amendment?

00:31:17.980 I think the key is not to go after these kids personally.

00:31:22.660 I mean, just separate yourself separate from politics, going after someone who experienced

00:31:29.400 a mass shooting less than a week ago is just very, I think, gross and wrong.

00:31:35.380 But I think the key is when you're approaching a lot of these issues is to talk on the policy

00:31:42.900 level.

00:31:43.780 Don't sort of attack people either like for being millennials or go after them personally or

00:31:50.320 just focus on just focus on rebutting their points and then presenting your own solutions.

00:31:57.920 I know National Review has had a lot of good articles recently about alternative solutions

00:32:02.740 to gun violence that don't infringe on the Second Amendment.

00:32:07.380 I think that is a smart way to go about it.

00:32:10.600 Just have sort of a reasonable case.

00:32:12.460 Just don't make it don't make it personal.

00:32:14.920 And yeah, I heard some somebody said to me yesterday that they and they said it may just

00:32:22.420 be from reading social media.

00:32:24.200 But I have in fact, I think it was Stu.

00:32:26.000 I have less faith in humanity and our ability to escape doom the more I listen to people on

00:32:37.720 Facebook and social media.

00:32:40.060 I have faith every time I speak to a millennial and I and I really listen to them.

00:32:46.500 But I hang out in circles that kind of generally are people like you.

00:32:51.280 Um, when you see the general population of millennials, do you have optimism?

00:32:59.620 I mean, it depends who I'm talking to, but I mean, I would say, I mean, I would say that,

00:33:06.200 uh, you know, I think there's always a chance.

00:33:09.020 I don't I don't think that, uh, generations of opinions are frozen in stone.

00:33:14.800 That's not a phrase.

00:33:15.880 But anyways, um, I think there's a lot of room for conservatives to actually make a

00:33:21.260 case to millennials, um, in a way they haven't done before.

00:33:24.700 I think a lot of what conservatives are doing is, is often spending a lot of time trying

00:33:28.100 to rebut or debunk sort of progressive ideas about universal health care.

00:33:32.620 But I think what, if we put forward our own positive message, rather than just being sort

00:33:37.440 of anti, uh, socialism, uh, I think that would be a good way to sort of change the game

00:33:44.420 with millennials.

00:33:44.860 And I think there, I think that there's always, there's always hope, you know?

00:33:48.360 Great.

00:33:48.680 Thanks, Alex.

00:33:51.260 Alex Birishano, uh, who's, uh, got the article on glennbeck.com.

00:33:58.100 You can check that out there.

00:33:59.260 Uh, he's on Twitter and his last name is hard to spell.

00:34:01.960 Uh, so that's why his Twitter name is a hard to spell is actually, or you can get him on

00:34:07.820 Twitter.

00:34:08.120 A hard to spell.

00:34:09.300 Uh, and the article is up at glennbeck.com.

00:34:11.620 Three problems only conservatives can solve that millennials will love.

00:34:14.780 Maybe we should start listening more to millennials.

00:34:19.420 All right.

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00:35:47.060 Glenn Beck, there is a book that I just finished reading last night.

00:36:04.020 That is really, really fascinating.

00:36:07.980 Um, it's called Hitler's monsters, a supernatural history of the third Reich.

00:36:13.360 Um, it was written by Eric Kurtlander and, um, he spent years doing research and nobody

00:36:21.360 has really taken this seriously.

00:36:23.020 People say all the time, Oh, you know, uh, you know, the Nazis, there were Christians.

00:36:27.700 No, no, no, they weren't.

00:36:29.540 No, they weren't.

00:36:31.140 In fact, he has done the research and gone through all of the connections, all of the books,

00:36:39.540 all of the papers, um, all of their edicts and traced it back to what their real philosophy

00:36:47.540 was and what they really believed and what they were and what some of them were just merely

00:36:53.340 using.

00:36:53.960 And that is the occult and border science and astrology and, um, myth.

00:37:00.180 It it's amazing.

00:37:02.600 It's truly amazing.

00:37:04.680 You'll, this is the, the real Indiana Jones, the real, um, uh, Captain America kind of stuff

00:37:14.600 that you see.

00:37:15.200 This is the proof that that stuff actually did happen, um, in real life, just differently

00:37:23.020 than what the cartoons have made it into.

00:37:25.620 And Steven Spielberg, he is coming up next and an interview.

00:37:30.840 You do not want to miss Hitler's monsters.

00:37:33.580 Next.

00:37:35.280 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

00:37:42.000 Love courage.

00:37:45.200 Truth.

00:37:46.840 Glenn Beck.

00:37:48.960 We should listen and respect those who have, um, who have lived through a mass shooting,

00:37:56.800 especially after they have gained perspective.

00:38:00.780 Patrick was a sophomore at Columbine High School when Dylan Klebold and Eric, uh, Harris massacred

00:38:07.000 their classmates.

00:38:07.960 He was one of the lucky ones.

00:38:09.920 He walked away with his life that day and he vowed that he would live a life of service

00:38:16.180 because God had granted him that blessing of living.

00:38:20.160 So Patrick went on to join the army.

00:38:22.120 He served a tour in Iraq.

00:38:23.660 When he came home, he was elected to the Colorado state house of representatives where he served

00:38:28.620 his constituents since, uh, 2014.

00:38:31.240 Every year since he was elected, Patrick has introduced legislation to remove the restrictions

00:38:37.400 on concealed carry in school.

00:38:40.420 In the wake of the Stoneman Douglas shooting and the renewed call for gun control, Patrick

00:38:45.340 is pushing his legislation just as hard.

00:38:47.680 Under the current Colorado law, anyone who has a concealed carry permit may bring firearms

00:38:52.380 onto school property, but you have to keep them locked inside their vehicles.

00:38:56.100 That's a quote from the law.

00:38:57.960 Patrick says that doesn't go far enough.

00:39:00.860 His act would allow every law abiding citizen who holds a concealed carry permit, the right

00:39:06.020 to defend themselves and others at all times.

00:39:09.220 Patrick says time and time again, we point to one common theme with the mass shootings.

00:39:13.900 They all occur in gun free zones.

00:39:16.900 As a former Columbine student who was a sophomore during the shooting on April 20th, 1999, I will

00:39:25.020 do everything in my power to prevent Colorado families from enduring the hardships that my

00:39:29.320 classmates and I faced that day.

00:39:32.340 People are arguing and we're going to continue to argue more guns equals more violence, but

00:39:38.300 they forget that the vast majority of guns are in the hands of responsible and good people.

00:39:43.360 There was a coach last week that stood in the way, used his body to block.

00:39:49.780 If he had a gun, how many could he have saved?

00:39:57.660 He died a hero, but many died after him.

00:40:02.520 The reality is we are bringing nothing to a gunfight with evil every single day.

00:40:09.600 Perhaps we should have this conversation, but we should listen to all sides so we can give

00:40:17.020 ourselves and our children a chance with an equal contender.

00:40:31.040 It's Tuesday, February 20th.

00:40:33.520 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

00:40:35.640 If you listen at all to the program, you know that I I read an awful lot and I can go through

00:40:44.060 I can go through two or three books a week pretty easily.

00:40:48.820 And I thought I would devour this book by Eric Kurtlander, Hitler's monsters.

00:40:54.040 But this has taken me about a month to get through, mainly because I get sidetracked and

00:41:00.080 start looking up the things that he is pointing out, because you've never heard any of this

00:41:06.780 before.

00:41:07.500 And it will give you a couple of things.

00:41:10.400 A new look on what allowed the Nazi movement to really grow and grow deep roots for a while.

00:41:20.800 And also the fact that now, no, this was not a Christian movement, which a lot of people

00:41:26.780 like to say, National Socialism, Hitler was a Christian.

00:41:29.520 No, no, no, that was not a Christian movement.

00:41:34.340 The only guy that has done serious work on the supernatural history of the Third Reich is

00:41:40.600 Eric Kurtlander.

00:41:42.320 And he joins us now.

00:41:43.720 And I want to make sure that you understand that this isn't some guy who's just like,

00:41:48.100 I just did some research.

00:41:49.200 He has his Ph.D. of modern European history at Harvard from Harvard, M.A., modern European

00:41:55.780 history, Harvard, B.A.

00:41:57.700 history at is at Bedouin College.

00:42:01.340 I'm not familiar with that.

00:42:02.520 Bodin College, sorry.

00:42:03.840 It's Belgian.

00:42:04.260 Bodin, yeah.

00:42:05.160 Belgian.

00:42:05.580 OK, well, welcome.

00:42:07.500 I'm a huge fan of this book.

00:42:09.920 And thank you for how many years did it take you to compile all this?

00:42:15.840 Well, thank you, Glenn, for having me on.

00:42:17.300 I really appreciate it.

00:42:18.600 I watched the show many years ago when Robert Galately, one of my colleagues at Florida

00:42:23.980 State University, was on, I think, in a book comparing Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini.

00:42:28.840 And I appreciated the way you brought in academic historians into your conversation.

00:42:35.320 Thank you.

00:42:35.720 Thank you.

00:42:36.120 Thank you for having me on.

00:42:37.760 And like many academic monographs, it took me a good eight to ten years from conception

00:42:43.500 to going to archives and doing the due diligence, reading other people's work, and then finally

00:42:48.480 starting writing, presenting it, and eventually deciding I had a critical mass of information

00:42:53.980 to make my arguments.

00:42:54.940 And it doesn't mean that there isn't going to be a reviewer somewhere who's like, well, you know, you could have looked at that or this.

00:43:00.580 But as you point out, it's pretty dense already.

00:43:03.060 I mean, at some point, you've got to say, you're ready.

00:43:06.060 Yeah.

00:43:06.460 And get it out there.

00:43:07.780 There's a couple of things.

00:43:08.680 And I want you to kind of lead this a bit, but I want to ask you a couple of questions up front that I think show the depth of your research.

00:43:18.000 One, you went, and this fascinated me, you went to the detail of looking at books that Hitler had collected and had read, and you looked for things he underlined.

00:43:32.500 And there were a couple of things that you talked about, and I can only find one of them now as I was looking this morning.

00:43:40.120 But one that he underlined was, horror always lurks at the bottom of the magical world, and everything holy is always mixed with horror.

00:43:51.400 This comes from a book called Magic in 1923.

00:43:56.420 He underlined this, and there was also another quote about something about a truly great man has to have the seeds of a demon inside of him.

00:44:06.500 That he did underline.

00:44:07.500 The other quotes from a page that he had underlined, but he hadn't underlined that particular quote.

00:44:12.820 And I want to be very clear about this, because this is an important methodological point.

00:44:16.900 A fellow historian, a journalist who writes history, found the book in the Library of Congress, where we have Hitler's library.

00:44:25.060 And it seems to be underlined and annotated in the way that Hitler had annotated other books.

00:44:30.380 We're not 100% certain he read and annotated it, but he's the most likely suspect.

00:44:35.660 So I use this book to represent a kind of cultural milieu in which he may have been thinking, because it seems that he read it.

00:44:44.880 And then I tie in other sources that talk about Hitler seeming to be interested in parapsychology, magic, even if he just thinks it's a way to manipulate people and not an actual force in the universe.

00:44:59.080 He clearly was involved in that kind of milieu.

00:45:02.680 That's the point I'm making.

00:45:03.880 And it does appear that he underlined 66 passages in that book.

00:45:08.160 But as someone who is not, I'm not a specialist in handwriting, I don't know for certain that he did.

00:45:14.160 I just want to put that out there.

00:45:15.620 So, Eric, the other thing that I thought would be important to start with to show the depth of your research was the, I mean, you go back into the 1800s,

00:45:27.480 and you're really trying to lay out the mindset of Germans at that time.

00:45:33.620 And I was not aware, and you talk a lot about the films that were made, the silent films in the teens and the 20s.

00:45:42.140 And I went back, and I don't remember which one I watched, but I watched one of these silent films that you pointed out in your book.

00:45:49.260 And it is terrifying, and the distortion of the Jew into a monster, or later Nosferatu, the vampire, is terrifying that that went on so long without the Nazis.

00:46:08.800 Right.

00:46:09.440 So a number of film scholars and literary scholars have argued that Weimar, because of all the trauma it went through,

00:46:15.440 the way that people in Weimar processed it was by, through horror, through expressionism, through very kinds of avant-garde artistic media

00:46:27.320 that were, you know, channeling a kind of return of the repressed, right?

00:46:33.200 And I try to show the ways in which certain images, monstrous images of the other, right, Jews, Slavs, communists,

00:46:42.080 were portrayed in not an empirical way, here's what's going to happen to the economy if finance capital does that,

00:46:49.860 or the communists do this, but in a metaphysical or supernatural way, right?

00:46:55.540 And that's, and I'm trying to show how that culture precedes the Nazis.

00:46:58.760 It doesn't mean everyone who watched horror movies was a Nazi, but their way of processing trauma and crisis,

00:47:05.980 I argue, was influenced by a kind of supernatural thinking.

00:47:09.600 How much, how much of this came from the, the churches, I know the churches in the West, in England, et cetera, et cetera,

00:47:18.200 many of them were really damaged because of World War I, and the people were kind of shook from that,

00:47:27.100 and they kind of started to see, wait a minute, the church is just really kind of a political organ here.

00:47:30.860 How much of this return to magic in Germany came from the churches kind of selling out or not being what churches should be?

00:47:46.600 That's an excellent question, and you're not going to want me to get into too much detail here,

00:47:50.680 but what I will say is I point out in Chapter 1 that Max Weber, the famous sociologist who was alive at the time,

00:47:56.760 said clearly the traditional churches in the wake of hyper-industrialization, even before World War I,

00:48:02.720 and science are no longer providing the kind of answers for a lot of people, a lot of younger people,

00:48:08.940 living certainly in cities that they used to provide.

00:48:12.180 And yet, with this disenchantment of the world, right, people still need something higher than themselves.

00:48:18.180 They need faith in something, and science isn't going to do it, and traditional religion doesn't do it.

00:48:23.400 What's in between? Well, New Age religion, occultism, these so-called border sciences that claim to explain everything,

00:48:30.940 like world ice theory, but really can't be proven empirically.

00:48:34.320 That's a vehicle for faith, pulp fiction, science fiction.

00:48:38.680 And we see that across the West after the 1890s, and especially after World War I,

00:48:43.780 with the decline in traditional religion.

00:48:45.560 We even see some of the Catholic and Protestant leaders trying to tap into that more grassroots, supernatural way of thinking.

00:48:56.300 But what I argue, and I guess this is something that, as you point out in the intro,

00:49:00.280 it would be reassuring for you as someone who believes in a Judeo-Christian ethos in the West,

00:49:06.500 it's usually to the degree that they move away from that, that they're open to these new ways of thinking.

00:49:11.700 I don't find a lot of devout Catholics and Protestants who believe in world ice theory, for example.

00:49:20.840 But they're compatible, because they're both faith-based ways of thinking,

00:49:24.440 but I do think you've got to take a step away from traditional religion

00:49:27.760 towards what I would call border science or occultism,

00:49:30.820 in order to find that as your kind of new religion, right?

00:49:34.560 So you're right, that while the churches may have made certain concessions to it,

00:49:39.320 or, like you say, become too political,

00:49:41.460 I don't think that Christianity, per se, was a bridge to this kind of thinking.

00:49:45.940 And I don't mean it exactly that way.

00:49:47.940 I mean the absence of that thinking led people to go find something that was different and worked.

00:49:56.280 But I want to have you explain border science and things like that when we come back

00:50:04.060 and kind of get in and set the groundwork of what they actually believed and what they used.

00:50:11.060 I mean the idea that they were using astrologers and divining rods to find submarines is amazing.

00:50:17.380 And eventually the miracle weapons that they were going after

00:50:22.120 and the reason why, possibly, they did not get the bomb is an amazing revelation.

00:50:31.660 And we'll get to that here in just a second.

00:50:42.140 The book is Hitler's Monsters, A Supernatural History of the Third Reich.

00:50:45.580 Eric Kurlander is the artist.

00:50:47.380 If you're an author, if you're a fan of those incredible, crazy documentaries they've made on this topic,

00:50:54.720 this goes much, much further.

00:50:56.200 Oh, much further.

00:50:56.960 And it explains it with real credibility.

00:50:59.120 Yeah.

00:50:59.620 This is Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail and the Last Crusade.

00:51:07.060 It's the Ark of the Covenant and Captain America.

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00:52:29.840 Glenn Beck Mercury.

00:52:39.460 Glenn Beck.

00:52:41.240 We have Eric Kurtlander on.

00:52:43.980 He is the author of a book, Hitler's Monsters.

00:52:47.940 This is a serious scholarly book about the supernatural history of the Third Reich

00:52:52.440 and what they believed and what they used.

00:52:57.040 Eric, help me out.

00:52:58.420 Let's get a couple of definitions.

00:53:00.760 What defined the occult?

00:53:03.020 What does that mean?

00:53:03.960 Is that devil stuff?

00:53:06.320 Right.

00:53:06.980 So I started out thinking, oh, you know, I'm going to look at occultism,

00:53:11.020 whatever that means.

00:53:12.220 And then I realized that occultism has a pretty specific meaning for scholars.

00:53:17.440 It's things related to demonology, witchcraft, certain what I later call border sciences,

00:53:25.980 but really that are linked to things like astrology and dousing,

00:53:29.060 and doctrines like eriosophy or anthroposophy.

00:53:33.660 These are also things that usually come under the umbrella of occultism,

00:53:37.680 something that's between religion and science and will help you uncover a secret world or a hidden world, right?

00:53:44.960 That's where the term comes from.

00:53:47.000 Pretend I read the book, but still could not get my arms around the ossophies.

00:53:55.760 Can you define those?

00:53:59.740 Excellent question.

00:54:00.940 And again, these ossophies are larger doctrines,

00:54:04.700 which supposedly explain the world in ways that traditional religion and science can't,

00:54:10.660 because they integrate both.

00:54:12.500 So theosophy, which Monom Blavatsky, a Russian thinker in the mid to late 19th century,

00:54:18.040 came up with, is this idea that if you study the religions of the East

00:54:22.900 and the kind of practices of the East and unite it with Darwinism and evolution,

00:54:30.560 you can come up with a syncretic doctrine that explains all of world history.

00:54:35.820 So she came up with this idea of root races,

00:54:38.260 the most superior of which lived in Atlantis millennia earlier,

00:54:43.260 maybe mated with extraterrestrials,

00:54:45.480 and then these other races which had various qualities.

00:54:47.840 You know, the early theosophists were not as explicitly racist as the later anthroposophists

00:54:53.720 or areosophists, obviously with Arian in the title,

00:54:57.100 but they all believed in this idea of root races,

00:54:59.460 that modern biology and Darwinism makes sense,

00:55:03.680 but it's got to be leavened with Eastern philosophy and religion,

00:55:07.520 and that you can understand the stages of world history through that.

00:55:10.720 And if you reverse engineer everything,

00:55:12.780 you can get back in touch both spiritually and racially

00:55:16.280 with the great root races of the earlier period.

00:55:19.960 And so much of what they were doing was having seances

00:55:23.000 and following certain doctrines to try to get back in touch with humanity

00:55:27.560 when it was at its highest point.

00:55:29.500 You can see why that was attractive to some Central Europeans

00:55:32.300 in the folkish movement,

00:55:34.440 the more racialist political movements and anti-Semitic movements,

00:55:37.660 because it in a way justified their view of the world.

00:55:40.520 So, Eric, I just want to go back.

00:55:43.860 I was interested to read how much they were into Eastern religion,

00:55:48.420 and I can't remember, was it Himmler that carried around the sayings of Buddha in his pocket?

00:55:54.140 Yeah, the Bhagavad Gita.

00:55:56.220 It's not exactly the same thing, but yeah.

00:55:58.200 Himmler, Hess, Rudolf Hess, the deputy fuhrer, Walter Daré.

00:56:03.020 This would not be something that people would expect.

00:56:07.700 No, but it makes perfect sense when you think about

00:56:11.680 what is their larger view of the world.

00:56:13.160 Why do they use the swastika, which is an Indo-Aryan fertility symbol, right?

00:56:17.240 Right.

00:56:17.840 Because in their mind, coming out of this 19th century supernatural imaginary,

00:56:22.460 the first chapter,

00:56:23.600 they recognize that the great races and civilizations,

00:56:27.900 and of course we don't have scientific evidence for this,

00:56:30.140 but this is their view of the world,

00:56:31.640 all came from these Indo-Aryan races,

00:56:34.340 which may have developed in Atlantis or the Hyperborea,

00:56:39.900 some ancient Aryan or racially pure Atlantian civilization,

00:56:43.680 but at some point, because of a flood or giant blocks of ice,

00:56:47.380 did migrate east, thereby populating India, East Asia, Japan,

00:56:54.460 and the reason all these superior civilizations occurred

00:56:58.240 is because of the leadership of the Indo-Aryans,

00:57:00.600 for whom the symbol of the swastika is the, you know,

00:57:04.000 and the religion of Tibet.

00:57:05.640 Why Tibet?

00:57:06.340 Well, it's a high point where in a flood,

00:57:09.240 a lot of the high priests of Aryan religion could have fled,

00:57:12.240 and then they're trying to re-inscribe those ideas back into

00:57:15.840 their view of Nordic race and religion in the 20s and 30s.

00:57:20.860 So that's kind of their view of the world, so it's not that odd.

00:57:24.320 They just skip over the Slavs and Jews, right?

00:57:26.680 Because those are subhuman races, or Africa.

00:57:30.260 But Asia makes sense to them.

00:57:32.580 We're talking to Eric Kurtlander.

00:57:34.620 He is the author of Hitler's Monsters.

00:57:36.980 It is a scholarly book on the supernatural leanings of the Third Reich,

00:57:45.400 and what was in the society that made them embrace Nazism,

00:57:51.060 and what did the Nazis use to strengthen that embrace?

00:57:55.580 More in a second.

00:57:56.320 Glenn Beck.

00:57:57.260 Mercury.

00:58:07.400 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:58:09.400 There's a book that is a must-read, but I warn you,

00:58:15.300 it's going to take you a while just because it's so fascinating.

00:58:18.620 You will jump out of the page and go,

00:58:20.960 wait a minute, I've got to look that up.

00:58:22.680 It's called Hitler's Monsters, Eric Kurtlander,

00:58:25.860 A Supernatural History of the Third Reich.

00:58:28.000 This is a scholarly book.

00:58:29.580 This is not a, you know, this is not pulp fiction.

00:58:32.480 It is a deep dive and well-documented on what the Nazis believed and what they did.

00:58:43.380 And, Eric, I want to clarify one thing with you that I didn't walk away knowing for sure,

00:58:52.560 and maybe you don't know the answer.

00:58:55.060 How much of this did they believe or make a pact with,

00:58:58.840 and how much was just being used?

00:59:02.480 So that became a central question for me as I was going through different sources.

00:59:08.540 So one thing I can say, Heinrich Himmler, Rudolf Hess,

00:59:13.140 believed, truly believed in a lot of these different doctrines,

00:59:16.940 border sciences like parapsychology, Dowsing, astrology.

00:59:22.300 They truly believed that if you did it in a scientific way,

00:59:25.400 you could glean answers that mainstream science and religion would not give you.

00:59:29.560 So he was looking into the, Himmler was looking into the Holy Grail.

00:59:34.540 He was, at the end, he was, he was, I guess you could credit this to Tesla,

00:59:40.140 but I'm not sure if he credited it more to Tesla or to Thor's hammer.

00:59:44.540 I mean, which, which was it?

00:59:46.700 Was it Tesla or was it, he believed the Thor hammer electricity in the air?

00:59:51.520 We have the, I mean, Peter Longerish,

00:59:54.740 one of the greatest historians of the Third Reich and the Holocaust,

00:59:58.520 and other sources both corroborate him asking his acolytes to look into whether

01:00:05.960 the energies that we associate with Thor's hammer can be somehow harnessed,

01:00:11.120 that maybe they're not traditional scientific energies,

01:00:15.260 but something more occult or hidden.

01:00:19.040 And that's why certain of the gods had certain powers.

01:00:22.780 He thought he was the reincarnation of Otto the Great, or Henry the Fowler, I'm sorry,

01:00:27.700 one of the great medieval German princes.

01:00:31.520 Many people have noted Himmler's actual investment in these ideas, as well as Hess.

01:00:36.120 What I find, though, and that's where the real debate comes,

01:00:39.560 is that many other Nazis, Otto Ohlendorf, who led the Einsatzgruppen to kill thousands of Jews,

01:00:44.960 he was seen as a kind of one of these technocrats, highly educated.

01:00:48.860 Turns out he was pushing biodynamic agriculture and anthroposophic,

01:00:54.740 which is an occult doctrine, approaches to the world as a kind of, not a substitute religion,

01:01:00.040 but as something that could unite religion and science in the Third Reich.

01:01:04.320 He's not normally associated with those ideas.

01:01:06.540 Hitler had a douser in the Reich Chancellery to look for cancer-causing death rays

01:01:11.520 and gave an honorary degree to one of the progenitors of world ice theory.

01:01:16.980 Some people, some in the Third Reich said that they found Mussolini through divining rods

01:01:23.300 or dousing over a map, and you document that really well.

01:01:28.700 Did Hitler believe that stuff?

01:01:31.360 So, I would say Hitler is, he's perfectly representative of the Nazi movement

01:01:37.980 and maybe Austro-German society.

01:01:40.460 He's right in the middle.

01:01:41.860 He clearly believed in some of these doctrines, because he'd grown up with them,

01:01:45.820 and he didn't find traditional Catholicism compelling,

01:01:48.960 and he didn't embrace modern science because he considered it a Jewish science

01:01:53.080 and was too empirical.

01:01:54.500 But he wasn't as invested as some other Nazis were, like Himmler or Hess.

01:02:00.000 On the other hand, there were a few Nazis, like Heydrich.

01:02:03.260 He's one of the only leaders I can find who almost never shows authentic investment in any of these ideas

01:02:08.360 and wants to combat them as another form of sectarianism.

01:02:12.560 So he doesn't care what religion, occult, or philosophical doctrine you have,

01:02:17.200 whether you're a liberal, communist, or even a conservative.

01:02:20.360 If you're not a Nazi, that's potentially a problem.

01:02:23.400 So Heydrich goes after occultists, but many of the other leaders who claim they don't like the occult,

01:02:29.780 like Rosenberg or Himmler, actually just don't like people who practice it

01:02:33.860 in a way that challenges their beliefs.

01:02:36.760 The minute, by the way, this is the problem with a lot of religion, right?

01:02:40.880 People argue that they have the true faith and the true method or path to the Lord, right?

01:02:46.840 So what you see in the Third Reich, much like occultism more generally,

01:02:50.220 is claims that they're doing it scientifically.

01:02:52.180 They understand it.

01:02:54.180 These other people are charlatans.

01:02:56.240 And many historians, when they saw that superficially,

01:02:58.600 who weren't particularly interested in research, you'd say,

01:03:00.620 oh, they're hostile to occultism.

01:03:02.640 And I point out, they're not hostile to it epistemologically.

01:03:06.240 They're hostile to anyone who practices it in a way that isn't compatible with their racial ideas,

01:03:11.300 their politics, their propaganda.

01:03:13.300 It actually worked to the West's advantage to some degree.

01:03:20.020 The SS Obergruppenfuhrer Kammler, who was really only known for making the crematoriums in Auschwitz more effective,

01:03:34.640 was the replacement for von Braun in the rocket science department.

01:03:39.140 And because, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it because of horoscopes or astrology?

01:03:45.520 We can't confirm it's because of astrology.

01:03:48.060 What we can confirm is that Himmler preferred to have SS men who shared some of his approaches to science and politics and race theory around him

01:03:56.820 more than tried-and-true professionals like von Braun.

01:04:01.460 And that's why Speer, as you see in my chapter, the primary sources I have from the archives are Speer reminding all the other Nazi leaders,

01:04:09.220 we aren't going to come up with miracle weapons that are going to decide the war.

01:04:12.800 This is propaganda.

01:04:14.300 And then you have Goebbels and Himmler and Kammler saying, oh, no, we can do this.

01:04:18.860 With enough will, with enough faith, if we harness the right energies.

01:04:23.700 And clearly that tips over into the realm of border science very often.

01:04:29.560 And it's not empirical.

01:04:30.920 It's not something that's actually feasible.

01:04:33.840 Towards the end, it seemed to really work to the West's advantage again.

01:04:38.420 Their race theory and their belief in these, what you call, border sciences.

01:04:44.740 I was really interested in what you said.

01:04:49.760 One of the reasons why we think that they weren't farther along with the nuke is because they saw that as a Jewish science.

01:04:57.260 And so it was a little underplayed.

01:04:59.600 And the border sciences, the miracle weapons, were looked at with possible equal shot of it working.

01:05:10.220 Do I have that right?

01:05:11.940 Exactly.

01:05:12.640 You have two parallel things going on.

01:05:14.960 Obviously, they lose a lot of the best scientists who may have been, quote, unquote, liberal or Jewish, right?

01:05:20.720 Many who stay are still top scientists.

01:05:23.080 Heisenberg, Max Planck, right?

01:05:25.540 Von Braun.

01:05:26.740 But they're working in a pair.

01:05:28.860 They're doing their they're carrying out traditional science, mainstream science.

01:05:33.600 And then you've got a lot of Nazis led by Himmler, who's got this whole institute, the Ananerba, the Institute for Ancestral Research, who's frustrated they don't want to work with his scientists, who are operating based on folklore and Indo-Aryan race theory and want to experiment with hidden electrical energies.

01:05:51.460 And the one thing I'm certain of is that the incompatibility of those two cultures certainly undermines some of their strategic thinking.

01:05:59.980 We know that Hitler and Himmler, because they read science fiction, liked the idea of rockets and and, you know, ships and jets and didn't think in terms of these more abstruse ideas like nuclear physics, which not only is something you can't concretely hold or build, but is something they associate with abstract thinking of Jews and and liberals and communists.

01:06:22.000 So God, thank God.

01:06:24.100 But but in a way now, I didn't I can't quantify a lot of the things I bring up in the book, as scholarly as it is, are things that someone else who's a specialist in these areas, armaments, military history, should really pursue and see to what degree this really did undermine their war effort.

01:06:40.180 I suggest it did.

01:06:41.920 Speer suggests it does.

01:06:44.200 But, you know, that that's a whole other line of research.

01:06:47.640 Yeah.

01:06:47.800 Uh, Eric, I could spend hours with you.

01:06:50.740 I'd love to have you.

01:06:51.700 I'd love to have you back because we haven't gotten into some of the miracle weapons and the bell, which, uh, you know, the flying saucer and anti-gravity stuff that they supposedly were working on, but we're really not sure if they were.

01:07:04.780 Uh, I'd love to continue our conversation on that.

01:07:08.000 I do want to switch gears because you wrote another book, which I have not read.

01:07:11.920 Uh, it is your first book and I, uh, let's see if I have it, uh, uh, the price of exclusion, ethnicity, national identity, and the decline of German liberalism.

01:07:22.820 Um, just based on the title, I have a feeling we would have a lot to learn from that in today's world.

01:07:30.520 We, we would, and the second book, Living with Hitler, Liberals in the Third Reich, which, um, I think you'd, you'd appreciate most of all.

01:07:39.100 Uh, we, we have slightly different political views, but I think you'll find the arguments in that book about the way that progressives kind of sold out, uh, to fascism.

01:07:48.100 Not because they were fascists, but because they saw certain continuities that, that made accommodation possible.

01:07:56.720 Um, I think you'd find that interesting.

01:07:58.960 Eric, I don't, I don't want to turn you political, but if you had any historic, um, uh, milestones that would be important, there's, uh, CPAC announced that they are having, uh, the national front speak from France, which is a national socialist party.

01:08:14.760 Um, and, uh, and I, I think they're doing it, um, because they'll say there's lots of things that we do have in common and we don't have to take that.

01:08:24.980 And, and, and this is a big movement that is happening all around and any, any lessons from history?

01:08:33.120 Well, this is, and if anything unites the three books I've written, which have been written in a time when I would argue our liberal so-called liberal parties have moved to the right on socioeconomic issues.

01:08:44.200 And then in other ways, embrace values, issues, value fight, fights over values.

01:08:48.680 And our right has done the same thing.

01:08:51.160 Um, what you see happening is, uh, an unwillingness for very, we would might, we could maybe both agree that it's the role of wall street and government elites who don't want to fight it out over the actual empirical realities of how do you get the best healthcare or the best tax policy?

01:09:08.580 They fight it out over ideology and values.

01:09:12.920 And those values have moved more and more towards a, what I would argue, the populist right.

01:09:17.660 So how do you win elections in America and France and the Netherlands now?

01:09:21.560 You claim you're going to protect people in ways that can never quite be explained from global forces, other ethnicities, religions, terrorism, economic forces that both parties used to embrace, right?

01:09:34.680 Trade.

01:09:35.060 Oh, those are dangerous.

01:09:36.980 And this of course moves both parties, but obviously our right wing more than our, what I now call our center towards what we used to call, what we now call the alt-right, but we used to call fascism.

01:09:48.800 And that's very dangerous.

01:09:50.380 That's especially in America.

01:09:52.140 You could always trust conservatives to defend the constitution, to be at least classical liberals, right?

01:09:58.320 And as you're pointing out, you can't always trust that anymore.

01:10:01.360 And if our so-called liberals have to be the constitutional conservatives, we're in trouble, right?

01:10:08.580 They're the interventionists, right?

01:10:10.160 They're the ones.

01:10:10.880 The progressives always want to tear down the constitution or change it.

01:10:14.620 And now they're the ones defending the FBI and the constitution.

01:10:17.440 We have a constitutional crisis.

01:10:19.160 We have a political cultural crisis.

01:10:20.680 I think both traditional conservatives and so-called liberals or progressives could agree on this.

01:10:26.220 And the lessons of history from the 20s and 30s are scary ones about the way this happens.

01:10:32.200 Eric, I'd love to talk to you again.

01:10:33.940 Thank you so much.

01:10:35.120 And thank you for the really hard work.

01:10:37.640 I mean, I've read a lot of books, and I don't think I've read one that I think took more hard work than this.

01:10:44.060 This was turning over every stone.

01:10:45.980 And thank you for your hard work.

01:10:47.020 One last question.

01:10:48.820 Would you definitely or would you definitively say the National Socialist Movement of Germany was not a Christian movement?

01:10:57.820 When you're talking about a country of 80 million people and 20 or 30 million who supported the Nazis,

01:11:03.300 obviously lots of Christians saw something in Nazism, whether it was extreme nationalism, anti-Semitism, Lutheran kind of patriotism.

01:11:13.760 But when it comes to the leaders, and here's where I feel I'm on solid ground, those leaders were frustrated by traditional Christianity,

01:11:21.560 which they linked to Judaism and to universalism and to a world beyond the here and now,

01:11:28.800 which they saw as not helpful in creating a racial ancestor-worshipping blood-and-soil movement.

01:11:34.280 That's why they liked Shinto and Hinduism and Buddhism, whether they interpreted those religions properly or not.

01:11:40.720 They saw them as more compatible with creating a religion of the here and now.

01:11:46.240 Eric, thank you.

01:11:46.700 And so in that, I would say they weren't, the leaders at least, were not Christians by any conventional sense of the word.

01:11:52.040 Thank you very much, Eric.

01:11:53.140 Hold on, if you would.

01:11:54.060 I'd like to talk to you a bit.

01:11:58.520 Hitler's Monsters is the book, A Supernatural History to the Third Reich.

01:12:01.840 Eric Kurlander is the artist.

01:12:03.800 I'm back on again.

01:12:04.760 There's so much to go through in this.

01:12:06.640 I mean, I want to talk to him about all the miracle stuff.

01:12:09.120 The Bell.

01:12:10.140 Did you even know what The Bell is?

01:12:12.540 It is, just look it up.

01:12:14.400 Let's just look up.

01:12:15.280 Nazi Bell.

01:12:17.920 Never heard of it.

01:12:19.120 Never heard of it.

01:12:20.660 And it's fascinating.

01:12:22.160 Whether it happened or not, I don't know.

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01:13:33.520 Glenn Beck.

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01:13:40.780 Glenn Beck.

01:13:41.740 So, what do you think, Stu?

01:13:49.380 I mean, it's fascinating.

01:13:50.680 I'm a...

01:13:51.760 As you are, and as several people around here are, just real nerds when it comes to learning about that era.

01:13:59.420 Because it's just fascinating that any of that happened.

01:14:02.240 I mean, obviously, first and foremost, horrifying.

01:14:05.680 Horrifying.

01:14:05.960 But then beyond that, it's just the fact that these people somehow got power and did all this crazy crap with it is just fascinating to me.

01:14:13.320 We should bring him in and then invite people to come and just, you know, come and just listen to him.

01:14:18.580 Maybe spend a weekend with him.

01:14:20.800 I guess I've done some research off of this book.

01:14:24.140 Not research research, but just looking up some of the stuff that he...

01:14:27.880 Oh, it gets you Googling.

01:14:28.160 All these books get you Googling.

01:14:29.200 Oh, my gosh.

01:14:29.980 And it's fascinating.

01:14:32.300 You watch some of the movies from the early 1920s in Germany, and all of a sudden, so much just starts to make sense to you.

01:14:41.660 And you're like, oh, my gosh.

01:14:43.600 They never saw it coming.

01:14:46.260 They never saw it coming.

01:14:48.860 So, the name of the book, again, is Hitler's Monsters.

01:14:52.640 Available in bookstores everywhere.

01:14:59.820 Glenn Beck.

01:15:01.800 Mercury.

01:15:02.300 I don't care if they're all conservatives.

01:15:17.560 16-year-olds should never be allowed to vote.

01:15:20.360 Yesterday, several on the left decided to use the protests by teenagers in Florida and Washington, D.C.

01:15:25.980 as an opportunity to promote the idea that 16-year-olds should be allowed to vote.

01:15:30.440 One law professor from the University of Kentucky tried to make a serious case in an article for CNN.

01:15:36.520 The real adults in the room are the youth from Parkland, Florida, who are speaking out about their need for meaningful gun laws.

01:15:43.100 They are proving that civic engagement among young people can make a difference.

01:15:47.380 Does anybody else have a teenager living with them because they don't make a lot of good decisions?

01:15:58.580 I'm just saying.

01:15:59.520 Some of them are good.

01:16:00.780 Some of them are not.

01:16:01.760 Some of them are like, you know what, you know what, you need to slow down here and get some more experience.

01:16:09.180 The protests from the devastated high school students of Parkland, Florida, are completely understandable.

01:16:16.100 They're a visceral reaction to the worst kind of tragedy.

01:16:19.500 We need to let them vent.

01:16:23.640 We need to listen to them.

01:16:25.000 We need to comfort them.

01:16:26.460 They need the space to vent their grief and anger.

01:16:29.580 The adult role right now should be to comfort and support and listen as they work through their trauma, not manipulate their trauma, not exploit their tears for political gain.

01:16:42.320 What we're seeing this week is a gut level reaction from traumatized kids, traumatized people.

01:16:49.080 It's not well-reasoned civic engagement.

01:16:52.580 This is not well-reasoned civil engagement.

01:16:55.920 This is somebody who has been traumatized going out and saying, this is what we need to do.

01:17:02.620 Well, in our system of government, unlike many others, for instance, Iran, we don't let the victims' families choose the punishment.

01:17:14.380 Why?

01:17:16.140 Because emotions get in the way.

01:17:19.760 America has a lot of smart teenagers.

01:17:22.300 I have to tell you, I believe in our future because of millennials and the teenagers.

01:17:27.780 But many of the teenagers, you know, don't really know what civic engagement means.

01:17:35.120 They don't know who their senator is.

01:17:36.840 They don't know the three branches of government.

01:17:38.920 They've not read the Constitution.

01:17:42.060 Many of them don't do their own laundry, and a few of them are eating Tide Pods.

01:17:50.540 Another law professor from Harvard said teens have a far better BS detector.

01:17:54.560 That may be true, but we shouldn't give the 16-year-olds the right to vote.

01:18:00.520 The professors make it seem as almost a 16-year-old voting right is being suppressed.

01:18:05.580 The voting age wasn't lowered to 18 until the 26th Amendment was passed in 1971.

01:18:12.940 The logic was, if you're old enough to be drafted, you're old enough to vote.

01:18:17.140 So is the criteria now that if you're old enough to carry a placard, you're old enough to vote?

01:18:23.080 I mean, sorry, but at least in 1971, there was a logical reason for the age change.

01:18:28.960 This is knee-jerk reaction.

01:18:32.260 Why is the left suddenly so interested in allowing 16-year-olds to vote?

01:18:37.900 Possibly because of the perfect untapped voting block?

01:18:40.460 Progressives love an emotionally-driven, peer-pressured voter who can be told what to believe rather than having the seasoning and the education to think the issues through.

01:18:54.280 If they could make everything emotional, progressives would.

01:18:58.240 Teens and college kids typically lean to the left until they get out into the real world, starting to make their own money, see how much of it is drained away in taxes.

01:19:08.320 They finally realize, wait a minute, progressivism is the exact opposite of the freedom that it promises.

01:19:23.080 It's Tuesday, February 20th.

01:19:25.680 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:19:27.560 Amazing that they changed the voting age to 18, because if you're old enough to get drafted, go to the military, then of course you should be able to vote.

01:19:37.540 It's a totally sensible idea, although I know Pat will come in later today and tell us that the voting age should be 35.

01:19:44.320 But on the other side of that, one of the things that these 16-year-olds are pushing for is that you should not be able to own a firearm until you're 21.

01:19:54.820 So you'd be able to get drafted to the military to use a firearm in the military, but not own one for your own protection at home.

01:20:01.960 It's a fascinating thing to think about.

01:20:05.260 And I don't think the right one.

01:20:06.820 I don't think the right one.

01:20:07.900 Again, we don't make 16-year-olds.

01:20:09.860 How many great decisions did you make as a 16-year-old?

01:20:13.440 Well, me, I mean, obviously lots of great ones, but most people don't.

01:20:17.040 No, of course not.

01:20:17.680 You're not seasoned enough, and you don't understand these issues enough.

01:20:22.180 Beyond that, like, if you're 50 years old, like, we've seen this before.

01:20:26.940 Well, let's go to the 50-year-old parent or grandparent of one of these kids who was killed, and they'll come out with their gun solution for America.

01:20:35.980 You don't make policy based on the victims of a tragedy.

01:20:41.220 No.

01:20:41.660 You don't become an expert in the topic because something terrible happened to you.

01:20:46.120 For example, my dad died of a heart attack.

01:20:48.660 I don't go to hospitals and tell them to do their heart surgery with spoons.

01:20:52.560 Like, that's not—I don't have any extra credibility on the topic because I was involved in a tragedy in my family.

01:20:59.700 Now, you could take that tragedy and become a scholar on it.

01:21:03.100 Right.

01:21:03.400 You could say, I'm going to learn everything I can.

01:21:05.700 I'm just tired of having a discussion of the Second Amendment with people who do not know what a gun is.

01:21:13.720 They've never fired it.

01:21:15.120 They don't know—they don't—they've never been around it.

01:21:17.680 They've never been around people who are responsible gun owners.

01:21:22.020 I don't—if you don't take the time to really learn what the gun is and can really talk to me about the truth of the Constitution,

01:21:33.600 the Constitution, the Second Amendment, was not about sporting.

01:21:37.140 It wasn't.

01:21:38.120 It was about people being able to take up arms against an out-of-control government.

01:21:44.040 Now, you can say, well, that's—they're never going to get out of control.

01:21:48.300 Or, well, if they get out of control, they're just going to use tanks.

01:21:51.220 Well, yes, but every single time there has been a dictator, the first time—the first thing they do is take away all weapons from the people,

01:22:02.200 and then they slaughter them.

01:22:04.320 At least give us a fighting chance.

01:22:06.460 Yeah, as we pointed out, the mass—everyone's like, oh, that was the—Vegas was the worst mass shooting in history.

01:22:11.400 No, first of all, the worst mass shooting in that context was Norway.

01:22:14.240 But beyond that, the top 100,000 mass shootings all came from governments against unarmed populists.

01:22:22.720 You think there was a day that went by in World War II where the Nazis didn't kill 58 people?

01:22:27.420 You think there was a day that went by where the communists didn't kill 58 people?

01:22:31.600 Their own citizens.

01:22:32.580 Yeah, their own citizens.

01:22:33.280 This was a light day for all of these governments when there was no way to push back against them.

01:22:38.200 And, you know, look, that is why it was designed.

01:22:40.040 It's used, I think, for personal protection as well as a massive—you know, that's a main reason for it now.

01:22:45.280 Of course, hunting is part of it and all that is a part of it, but it's not about those individual things.

01:22:49.720 It's about you being able to utilize that right in the way that you see fit without violating others' rights.

01:22:55.500 But again, I think when you talk about gun knowledge, it is important.

01:22:59.740 You can get into the weeds a little bit too much.

01:23:01.720 Yeah.

01:23:02.020 But, I mean, listen to this.

01:23:02.720 This comes from the Statesman Journal.

01:23:04.680 This is a letter to the editor.

01:23:05.900 They decided to print.

01:23:06.900 Every killer needs three things—an evil mindset, an opportunity, and the means to carry out their plan.

01:23:13.100 Break that chain, and you've stopped a killer.

01:23:15.820 It's hard to know a person's ever-changing mindset, and opportunity is everywhere.

01:23:19.920 That leaves means.

01:23:22.620 Prevent future killings from obtaining an automatic weapon, and you've stopped a mass killing.

01:23:28.440 Yes, other weapons can kill too, but none are so deadly as an automatic rifle.

01:23:33.120 We know what doesn't work.

01:23:34.440 Prayer doesn't work.

01:23:35.400 It might make us feel better and make the survivors feel better, but it doesn't stop the next shooting.

01:23:39.960 Believe me, the NRA doesn't work either.

01:23:41.800 They don't pass any laws and can't regulate their industry.

01:23:44.120 A good guy with a gun doesn't work.

01:23:45.900 This Florida school had two on-duty police officers assigned to it, which is something else we should discuss.

01:23:50.800 But banning automatic weapons, you will not stop any mass killings.

01:23:55.180 And you will stop many mass killings, excuse me.

01:23:58.320 And at the same time, you'll be protecting the most basic right our Constitution has to offer, the right to life.

01:24:02.500 Could I just point out a couple of things?

01:24:05.600 Is there a minor issue with it?

01:24:06.920 We have banned automatic weapons.

01:24:09.440 Oh, yeah.

01:24:10.920 Again, it's hard to have a debate on this topic when the overwhelming majority of people discussing it don't have basic knowledge on the topic.

01:24:21.300 That is a difficult thing to do.

01:24:22.700 You don't need to know everything about a gun.

01:24:25.000 You don't need to be a gun nerd to have these conversations.

01:24:27.880 No, but you have to have a basic knowledge.

01:24:30.040 You have to have a basic knowledge.

01:24:31.480 And quite honestly, I think, look, I can understand people who have never grown up around guns.

01:24:38.040 I can understand it.

01:24:39.340 I can understand people who are afraid of guns because they never had any experiences with them.

01:24:44.820 And they grew up, let's say, even in a city where, you know, you grew up in New York.

01:24:49.400 I understand that.

01:24:50.360 Now, can you understand that every time you talk about a gun being something bad, I feel my grandfather, I remember holding his hand with his gun underneath his arm as we walked every night on the back of our farm.

01:25:10.860 And I mean, it is it was a feeling of safety and culture.

01:25:16.960 There was no we didn't have bad experiences with guns because we respected them.

01:25:23.260 So it's part of the culture.

01:25:25.580 It's not part of your culture.

01:25:28.020 That's OK.

01:25:29.860 But it is uniquely American, at least in the center of the country.

01:25:35.820 And you can't just dismiss that.

01:25:38.880 You can't.

01:25:39.360 And it's it's it's amazing to watch cable news hosts be fascinated by the fact that we just can't do something every time there's another one of these attacks.

01:25:46.880 And what do we do?

01:25:47.500 We don't do anything.

01:25:48.500 And they miss the basic separation of the way these two things are coming together.

01:25:53.940 The reason you don't get, quote unquote, common sense, middle ground gun control.

01:25:58.220 Because you're not going for it.

01:25:59.300 Well, first of all, they're not going for it.

01:26:00.800 And every conservative looks at that and is reflexes immediately because they feel a dog whistle.

01:26:05.440 Yeah.

01:26:05.580 They feel you're going after their guns.

01:26:07.080 And many times you've admitted that you are.

01:26:10.100 Yes.

01:26:10.560 Eric Holder.

01:26:11.380 Yeah.

01:26:11.920 Australia, for example, every time you bring up the word Australia, what you're saying is you want to take 30 percent of the guns out of the country.

01:26:16.060 So how do you think that a gun owner would feel about that?

01:26:18.060 But the bottom line, the basic thing is, even on these minor things, progressives, liberals, the left look at guns as something that's inherently dangerous.

01:26:26.980 And therefore, we should stop every person from getting one unless we're sure that they're going to use it safely.

01:26:33.220 On the other side, the right, conservatives, libertarians, look at guns as constitutionally protected.

01:26:41.140 Therefore, only if you're sure the person isn't going to use them safely do we take them away with extreme mental health or convictions over in the past and domestic violence and things like that.

01:26:56.680 And so that separation, there's a lot of middle ground between those two positions, but there's almost no room to compromise between them.

01:27:03.940 You know, it's the idea of saying if one side of the argument is, look, people are innocent until proven guilty.

01:27:10.100 And the other people on the other side are saying people are guilty until proven innocent.

01:27:13.360 Well, there's a lot of middle ground between those two positions, but there's no place to compromise.

01:27:17.240 There's not a innocent until proven innocent place in the middle that you can come together.

01:27:21.000 Right. It doesn't make any sense.

01:27:23.060 Those the positions don't work together.

01:27:25.100 And of course, I fully 100 percent believe their conservative position is right.

01:27:30.940 They are constitutionally protected and you can't just start grabbing them from everybody.

01:27:34.360 That's why the example they always bring up is we couldn't even ban terrorists on the terrorist watch list from getting guns.

01:27:41.660 That shows how irrational conservatives are.

01:27:44.980 No, it shows that conservatives understand this is a constitutionally protected right.

01:27:49.300 And just because someone has made a list with a name on it without any due process, without any evidence being presented, without any tons and tons of mistakes, you can't take away a constitutionally protected right because of that.

01:28:03.680 We would never do that with the First Amendment.

01:28:05.920 We would never do that with any of these amendments.

01:28:08.500 They're all too important to us and we all understand them.

01:28:11.580 The Second Amendment has just become this issue that the left throws around to get donations.

01:28:17.020 And there are a lot of honest people who are on Facebook or on Twitter who are touting these things like the NRA is donating money and that's they're controlling the debate.

01:28:25.280 There's been 18 school shootings.

01:28:26.800 They're being used by the left leadership who don't want to do anything to protect these victims because they like this issue.

01:28:34.220 They like the issue far too much.

01:28:36.580 And obviously, they don't want people to die.

01:28:39.600 Nobody does.

01:28:40.260 But they see this.

01:28:41.560 They could take steps that are unrelated to gun control that the right would go along with.

01:28:46.520 But they're in a period here where conservatives have, or at least the Republicans, have the House, the Senate, and the presidency.

01:28:55.880 Your time to pass wide swaths of gun control was probably when you had all three of those and you didn't do it.

01:29:02.800 Now, you don't have any of them.

01:29:04.980 You're not going to get that through right now.

01:29:06.440 If you would focus on things that could actually help that you could work together, there would be a middle place there.

01:29:10.580 It's just, you know, I just, it's just not about gun control.

01:29:13.500 Well, because nobody is truly, nobody is trying to help.

01:29:16.860 Nobody's trying to solve this.

01:29:18.320 Nobody is.

01:29:18.960 It's depressing.

01:29:19.620 It really is.

01:29:20.200 It is.

01:29:20.700 They're not trying to solve it.

01:29:22.200 All they're trying to do is win.

01:29:24.240 We lose once we decided we must win.

01:29:29.580 And everybody is just trying to win.

01:29:31.280 And I don't mean win the Constitution.

01:29:34.060 I mean, you're just trying to win the next election.

01:29:36.780 It doesn't matter.

01:29:37.560 You just want verbal ammunition that you can spray the other side with when it comes election time.

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01:31:37.240 Glenn Beck Mercury.

01:31:47.300 Glenn Beck.

01:31:48.180 Welcome to the program.

01:31:52.160 Let's talk about a couple of things.

01:31:53.700 First of all, can we lay off Fergie, please?

01:31:57.280 Can we please lay off?

01:31:58.900 I'm with you on this.

01:32:00.560 She's saying it didn't work out, okay?

01:32:04.200 She sang the national anthem at the NBA All-Star Game.

01:32:06.660 It didn't work out that well.

01:32:07.720 She risked.

01:32:08.300 She tried something out.

01:32:09.480 Win big.

01:32:10.300 Risk big.

01:32:10.980 Lose big.

01:32:11.460 She lost big.

01:32:13.260 I tweeted this morning because I think she was genuine.

01:32:16.760 She worked hard.

01:32:17.560 She was not mocking it.

01:32:19.640 She was just trying something that just didn't work.

01:32:22.000 And as Edison said, I haven't failed.

01:32:25.960 I've just found, you know, one way the national anthem shouldn't be sung.

01:32:30.800 Right.

01:32:31.400 You know?

01:32:31.940 Yeah.

01:32:32.120 A sultry, sort of sexy version.

01:32:34.520 But again, like this.

01:32:35.360 That's her.

01:32:35.900 That's her.

01:32:36.560 She tried to blend her own personal thing that she does all the time with a national anthem.

01:32:40.480 That's not a great idea.

01:32:41.720 Well, it's only because it's a song about war.

01:32:44.920 It's not real sexy.

01:32:46.400 Again, it didn't work.

01:32:47.360 But she doesn't need to be, you know, well, drawn and quartered, she does.

01:32:51.840 I would say that's the attitude of the internet right now.

01:32:54.520 It really is.

01:32:55.040 Like, again, she sang a version that didn't work out of the national anthem.

01:32:59.060 Okay, we can acknowledge it wasn't great.

01:33:01.020 It's a move on with our lives.

01:33:02.020 It's not the same.

01:33:02.880 She knew all of the lyrics.

01:33:04.900 Yeah.

01:33:05.200 Which is great.

01:33:05.640 That doesn't happen all the time.

01:33:06.020 Yeah.

01:33:06.280 She worked on it.

01:33:07.280 And it wasn't Roseanne Barr.

01:33:08.420 It wasn't Roseanne.

01:33:09.480 She was not mocking it.

01:33:11.660 Yeah.

01:33:12.000 She just tried to do it in a way that didn't work.

01:33:14.840 She had a statement that came out.

01:33:16.040 She said, I've always been honored and proud to perform the national anthem.

01:33:18.900 And last night, I tried to do something special for the NBA.

01:33:21.340 Hey, I'm a risk taker artistically, but clearly this rendition didn't strike the intended tone.

01:33:26.220 She added, I love this country and honestly tried my best.

01:33:29.720 Like, can we leave her alone?

01:33:30.900 All right.

01:33:31.440 Let's leave her alone.

01:33:32.320 I feel bad for her now.

01:33:33.240 I do too.

01:33:34.120 You know, I will give this to Jennifer Lawrence as well.

01:33:37.480 This is another one of these controversies on the internet right now.

01:33:39.400 Jennifer Lawrence, the presentation of her story is she said she's going to retire from acting to save democracy.

01:33:46.760 And obviously, that's ridiculous.

01:33:48.520 Okay.

01:33:48.780 So hang on.

01:33:49.340 She's going to single-handedly save our democracy by retiring.

01:33:52.100 I saw that in quotes.

01:33:53.600 Yeah.

01:33:53.840 I saw that in quotes and I'm like, there's no way she said that.

01:33:56.820 If she said that, she deserves to be hammered.

01:34:00.620 Right.

01:34:01.280 And of course, now what is the full context of this?

01:34:03.720 Which is almost impossible to find in any of the stories about it.

01:34:07.260 But the actual full context is she just did a movie, Red Sparrow, that's coming out soon.

01:34:11.800 She says, I'm going to take the next year off.

01:34:13.540 First of all, it's not retiring.

01:34:14.880 People in Hollywood take a year off all the time, especially if you're an A-lister.

01:34:18.400 To take a year off from acting is not a big deal at all.

01:34:20.220 Oh, I just made $20 million.

01:34:21.360 Right.

01:34:21.700 I'm going to go spend some of it and have sex on a beach.

01:34:24.460 Right.

01:34:24.820 Exactly.

01:34:25.320 She's probably going to go on vacation in that year as well.

01:34:28.160 Yes.

01:34:28.400 But she also mentioned she's going to be working with an organization that's obviously probably very liberal,

01:34:32.180 trying to get young people engaged politically on a local level.

01:34:35.780 Here's the actual quote.

01:34:37.080 It doesn't have anything to do with partisan politics, Lawrence said of her involvement in the nonprofit organization.

01:34:42.460 It's just anti-corruption and stuff, trying to pass state-by-state laws that help prevent corruption.

01:34:47.100 Fix our democracy.

01:34:48.940 So that's not...

01:34:49.900 That is not her saying she's retiring to fix our democracy.

01:34:53.520 It's not.

01:34:54.300 It's not at all.

01:34:55.280 It's so disingenuous and dishonest.

01:34:57.080 And I feel like that's what we wind up doing on social media.

01:35:01.740 It's just like taking...

01:35:02.800 Can you potentially sort of read it that way in the worst possible sense to make her look as dumb as possible?

01:35:09.360 Well, yeah.

01:35:09.960 But I mean, look, she's taking a year off.

01:35:11.640 She's probably going to go on vacation.

01:35:12.780 She's probably going to have sex with male models.

01:35:14.400 She's probably going to do all sorts of stuff.

01:35:15.580 And then she's going to work with a charity too.

01:35:17.320 It's not that big of a deal.

01:35:18.020 Glenn.

01:35:20.420 Back.

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01:35:27.080 Loads of ammunition and a powerful AR-15.

01:35:33.080 Assault rifles out of the hands of people.

01:35:35.400 I want this to be the end of the Second Amendment.

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01:35:59.780 Let's talk about the Olympics here for a second.

01:36:02.820 Remember the guy from Tonga?

01:36:04.580 Pat Gray joins us.

01:36:05.600 Remember the guy from Tonga that came in with his shirt off?

01:36:08.300 Yep.

01:36:09.100 Do you know the rest of that story?

01:36:10.980 Because that's all that anybody talked about.

01:36:13.860 Well, I mean, he takes his shirt off.

01:36:16.100 He gets oiled up.

01:36:16.880 He comes out.

01:36:17.620 All the women gawk at him.

01:36:18.580 And then they bring him on set and put their hands all over him and touches his pecs and his back.

01:36:23.040 And that was perfectly fine.

01:36:23.860 That was perfectly fine.

01:36:24.520 Not objectified.

01:36:25.160 Well, I know.

01:36:26.300 That happens all the time when women come out in a bikini.

01:36:29.960 Have you ever seen this happen once in your life?

01:36:32.500 No.

01:36:32.860 And men put their hands all over her?

01:36:34.300 Put their hands all over her?

01:36:34.840 Now, certainly women are objectified in media.

01:36:36.940 There's no question about that.

01:36:38.080 But have you ever seen a mainstream talk show?

01:36:40.260 This has happened with this guy several times.

01:36:42.200 Where he walks out.

01:36:43.060 Mainly on NBC.

01:36:44.080 Yeah.

01:36:44.740 I mean, a woman walks out in a bikini with no clothes on.

01:36:48.440 And guys walk over and she's all oiled up.

01:36:51.220 And guys put their hands all over her because they like the way she feels.

01:36:54.500 Have you ever seen that happen in your life?

01:36:56.220 No.

01:36:56.600 Never.

01:36:56.820 I mean, I mean.

01:36:57.840 And we would reject it.

01:36:59.400 The only thing I could think of possibly where it may have happened was Jimmy Kimmel's old show.

01:37:04.720 Maybe.

01:37:05.380 No.

01:37:05.500 He's too socially conscious.

01:37:07.320 He's woke.

01:37:08.920 He is so woke.

01:37:09.800 I love that term.

01:37:11.060 All right.

01:37:11.400 So this guy.

01:37:12.920 Here's.

01:37:13.340 Everybody talked about, you know.

01:37:14.720 Oh, look.

01:37:15.380 He's got oil all over him.

01:37:17.680 Nobody talked about he finished out of 30.

01:37:21.560 I think he finished 26 in cross-country skiing.

01:37:25.220 However, A, he's from Tonga.

01:37:29.840 No skiing in Tonga.

01:37:32.040 So he finished like 26th.

01:37:35.320 He was not last place.

01:37:37.240 He trained on roller skates.

01:37:40.620 He had only trained on the snow for the last three months.

01:37:44.340 That's it.

01:37:45.420 Wow.

01:37:46.320 And he finished the last place finisher was Mexico.

01:37:51.440 And when they interviewed him, he stayed and he waited for the others to cross.

01:37:56.940 They were behind and he was cheering them on and the camera caught him and they said,

01:38:02.580 you know, you came in 26.

01:38:04.260 You're so excited.

01:38:04.880 And he's like, yes, because I'm from Tonga.

01:38:08.200 We don't even have snow.

01:38:09.720 And I could compete.

01:38:11.980 Don't let anybody ever tell you that you can't make your dreams happen.

01:38:15.420 I love that.

01:38:16.640 It's a great story.

01:38:17.300 That's a great story.

01:38:18.500 That's a great story.

01:38:19.080 Nobody's telling that story.

01:38:20.260 That's because it's interesting.

01:38:21.000 I think we usually like that story, the Jamaican bobsled team, right?

01:38:24.920 That's one we've liked before.

01:38:26.440 The Nigerian bobsled team this year.

01:38:28.560 They're the same story.

01:38:29.660 Same type of thing.

01:38:30.700 Remember Eddie the Eagle?

01:38:32.200 Yep.

01:38:32.620 It was a big one.

01:38:33.540 Do you remember him from back in the day?

01:38:34.580 He wasn't a very good ski jumper.

01:38:36.600 Right.

01:38:36.700 So here's one, Pat, Stu and I can't make our mind up on if we like or not.

01:38:44.580 Is this another Eddie the Eagle?

01:38:46.200 All right.

01:38:46.680 Okay.

01:38:47.300 This is interesting.

01:38:48.440 Elizabeth Sweeney.

01:38:49.760 She's a skier.

01:38:51.340 She is not a very good skier, however.

01:38:55.640 She started competing in half pipe in 2013, and she was representing at the time Venezuela.

01:39:02.840 She's then switched to Hungary in 2016.

01:39:04.640 Now she's moved to America.

01:39:06.480 She represents the United States, okay?

01:39:08.640 She'll sleep with it.

01:39:09.800 Now, here's the thing.

01:39:10.820 Not a ton of competitors in women's half pipe skiing.

01:39:15.540 Who would have thought?

01:39:17.040 So she learned the rules of how you qualify for an Olympic team.

01:39:21.920 The International Ski Federation has set up rules, and the two main requirements are consistently

01:39:28.120 finishing in the top 30 in World Cup events and accumulating enough International Ski Federation

01:39:33.220 points.

01:39:34.640 So the two quirks to this are a lot of the big competitors go to certain big high-profile

01:39:40.840 events for the World Cup, and they try to win, and then they go to the other high-profile

01:39:47.260 events.

01:39:48.120 She, Elizabeth, decided she was going to go to every event.

01:39:51.200 So even a little minor one she went to to get more points, right?

01:39:54.240 Secondarily, she went to a lot of events where there weren't 30 competitors.

01:40:00.600 So she consistently finished in the top 30 because there was only 25 people, okay?

01:40:05.980 So she was smart enough to realize this.

01:40:07.760 The other part of it is to make sure she got points.

01:40:10.720 She didn't really try to do all the crazy tricks they do.

01:40:15.120 She just made sure she didn't fall down.

01:40:17.080 So a lot of the people who were doing all the crazy skiing were falling and getting lower

01:40:21.620 scores than her because she was just skating down or skiing down and not falling.

01:40:27.040 So she's on our Olympic ski team.

01:40:29.060 She made the Olympic team, and she's apparently not a very good skier.

01:40:32.160 In the actual event, the lowest qualifying score to move on was 72.

01:40:37.620 The third lowest score in the entire competition was 56.

01:40:43.100 The second lowest score in the competition was 45.

01:40:46.360 She scored a 31.

01:40:49.420 Apparently, she is not all that good at skiing.

01:40:52.760 And so I think the interesting thing is if you're a skier who is good at skiing, it's

01:40:57.460 really frustrating that this person, without the ability to compete in an Olympic level,

01:41:02.240 beat you.

01:41:02.820 On the other side of it, I really admire the idea that she looked at the rules.

01:41:07.620 And she said, you know what?

01:41:08.660 I'm going to go to all the events, even the ones that people don't really attend.

01:41:11.700 So there's only 12 people there.

01:41:12.700 I'll finish 12th.

01:41:14.040 And I will score points because I won't fall down.

01:41:16.580 And she did all of this for a consistent period of time, flying herself all over the world

01:41:20.360 to do it.

01:41:20.740 And she made the freaking Olympic team.

01:41:22.280 I actually don't have a problem with it.

01:41:24.180 I think I like it.

01:41:25.180 I do, too.

01:41:25.860 I'll bet her fellow skiers are.

01:41:27.760 Oh, I hate her.

01:41:28.560 Yeah.

01:41:29.000 They can't stand that story.

01:41:30.160 They hate her.

01:41:31.280 But there's another interesting story about the snowboarder who entered the, I think it was the women's

01:41:36.540 Super G.

01:41:37.680 She won the gold medal.

01:41:39.280 She's a snowboarder.

01:41:41.160 She rarely has raced in downhill.

01:41:44.660 And she took a different track than everybody else because she didn't have the experience

01:41:48.260 everybody else had.

01:41:49.360 Oh, Super G?

01:41:49.420 She was amazing.

01:41:50.560 I saw it.

01:41:51.700 Yeah.

01:41:52.020 She won.

01:41:52.580 She comes across the finish line.

01:41:54.400 She's looking around like, okay, well, you know, I tried.

01:41:57.280 Everybody's screaming and yelling.

01:41:58.720 And she's like, what?

01:42:00.640 What's going on?

01:42:01.360 What did I do wrong?

01:42:02.400 That's awesome.

01:42:02.880 What did I do wrong?

01:42:03.240 Yeah.

01:42:03.480 For like two or three minutes.

01:42:04.420 You won the gold.

01:42:05.400 It was amazing.

01:42:06.100 She beat her by like a hundredth of a point.

01:42:09.580 Right?

01:42:10.120 A hundredth of a second.

01:42:11.280 Yeah.

01:42:11.340 Um, and she, when in an interview, she said, well, I wasn't trying to win.

01:42:16.720 I was just trying to do my best.

01:42:18.800 She didn't even, the network had broken away from the Super G and, and awarded the gold

01:42:25.160 medal to somebody else.

01:42:26.240 Yes.

01:42:26.520 They said, uh, it's going to be, yeah, it's going to be, I think Norway or, or, um, uh,

01:42:31.340 uh, Austria.

01:42:32.460 It's one of those.

01:42:33.400 And there were still, I think it was 25 racers left.

01:42:38.820 Yeah.

01:42:38.980 And she was the last one.

01:42:41.420 And so they broke back in and went, something amazing just happened in the Super G.

01:42:45.460 A woman who had no chance of winning, a woman who didn't even, wasn't trying to win, just

01:42:51.880 wanted to do her best.

01:42:52.960 I thought that is the perfect person to get the gold.

01:42:56.180 Incredible.

01:42:56.480 That's great.

01:42:57.080 Yeah.

01:42:57.320 That's great.

01:42:57.900 I mean, I like some fun stories.

01:42:59.460 Yeah.

01:43:00.000 There's always good stories at the Olympics.

01:43:01.580 Yeah.

01:43:01.900 And they're all people that you don't know because you don't follow these sports at any

01:43:04.940 other time.

01:43:05.720 At least not in America.

01:43:06.540 Yeah.

01:43:06.860 I've learned more about curling than I ever, me too, ever need to know me too.

01:43:11.680 I mean, or wanted to know.

01:43:13.340 Well, he said to me yesterday, he said, have you noticed that they, that they twist it just

01:43:18.520 before they kind of, nevermind.

01:43:22.040 And you saw the, the Russian who tested positive for steroids on curling for, yeah, you should

01:43:30.080 in curling.

01:43:31.160 You shouldn't be able to test positive, uh, you know, for no alcohol in your bloodstream.

01:43:37.860 You should be drunk and curling and still be able to win the gold.

01:43:42.620 Yes.

01:43:43.340 What do you do?

01:43:44.020 What do you need steroids for?

01:43:46.280 So weird.

01:43:47.380 It does seem pretty.

01:43:48.680 Super sweeping power.

01:43:49.840 What, what is that about?

01:43:51.060 I don't, I mean, it's pretty easy to push that rock down ice.

01:43:55.140 Can I, can I switch gears here?

01:43:56.740 It's ice.

01:43:57.000 Let me switch gears on a couple of topics.

01:43:58.680 One I know you want to cover.

01:43:59.920 One I'd like to get your opinion.

01:44:01.160 What do you think about, uh, the national front, uh, bizarre inviting, uh, Marion LePen

01:44:09.820 to CPAC.

01:44:11.160 So she's speaking an hour after Mike Pence at CPAC.

01:44:15.440 That's a prime position too.

01:44:16.760 So last year, CPAC, last year CPAC had Milo this year, right?

01:44:22.940 They have Marion LePen.

01:44:25.940 I next year.

01:44:27.200 I think it's going to be Richard Spencer.

01:44:30.000 We're lucky.

01:44:30.800 Or worse.

01:44:31.660 Yeah.

01:44:32.000 Jeez.

01:44:32.640 Did you see the, uh, back and forth tweeting between Jonah Goldberg and Matt Schlapp?

01:44:38.240 We heard a little bit about it.

01:44:39.660 I heard it got ugly.

01:44:40.180 Pretty interesting.

01:44:41.320 Uh, because I guess Matt Schlapp was initially responding to somebody named Reagan Battalion.

01:44:47.980 Yeah.

01:44:48.320 Uh, about, about the speaking of Marion LePen and Schlapp tweeted, Reagan Battalion, I've

01:44:55.900 come to respect you, but do your research.

01:44:58.000 This is Marion, not her aunt.

01:45:00.060 Marion is a classical liberal, a conservative.

01:45:04.100 So Jonah Goldberg tweets, wow, this is fantastic news.

01:45:08.700 I mean, if she's a classical liberal, she'll be announcing she's leaving the national front,

01:45:13.260 right?

01:45:13.560 That is a coup for CPAC.

01:45:15.600 Congrats.

01:45:17.760 And then he writes, uh, seriously, uh, Matt, I'm psyched to learn that she's a classical

01:45:23.200 liberal.

01:45:23.580 I've always known her economic policies were less statist than her grandfathers or moms,

01:45:27.900 but I didn't know she was a disciple of Bastiat.

01:45:30.140 But I'd like to see, uh, the research you refer to though.

01:45:34.640 So Schlapp writes, Hey Jonah, our biggest coup was getting your wife to join me on the Trump

01:45:38.520 train.

01:45:38.800 So he just completely ignored and changed the subject.

01:45:42.960 Join me on the Trump train.

01:45:44.340 Wow.

01:45:44.720 That's a far leap.

01:45:46.580 I mean, just that.

01:45:48.360 We called Matt, wanted him on the show today.

01:45:50.840 He's, he's not responding.

01:45:51.820 We have not heard yet.

01:45:52.760 Right.

01:45:53.040 I don't think I'm, I'll check in on that.

01:45:54.540 See if there's an update.

01:45:55.100 Well, it's all, it's all super Trump people, right?

01:45:57.220 I mean, super Trump supporters.

01:45:58.760 No, no, no, no, no.

01:45:59.540 Isn't it?

01:46:00.060 No.

01:46:00.320 Ben Shapiro is going.

01:46:01.660 Ben, Ben, Ben.

01:46:02.580 Is he speaking?

01:46:03.620 He's speaking.

01:46:04.700 Um, yep.

01:46:05.980 He, he, I think he, it would be safe to say someone like Ben would have liked to known

01:46:12.100 that Marine Le Pen was speaking, you know, on the same stage, but.

01:46:16.100 Marion.

01:46:16.640 Or Marion.

01:46:17.360 Yes, that's right.

01:46:18.040 I mean, I think.

01:46:18.400 By the way, uh, Marion is grandpa's favorite.

01:46:22.300 Wow.

01:46:22.840 Yeah.

01:46:23.000 Grandpa and Marion get along real well.

01:46:25.620 And, and remember, uh, the national front said that they need a, a new ally, not the

01:46:31.600 United States, not the West, but Russia, France and Russia.

01:46:35.580 And, uh, grandpa just recently said, eh, the Holocaust was a minor detail of history.

01:46:41.420 Well, can we talk about what national front is?

01:46:43.420 It's, it's French national socialists.

01:46:46.040 Yes.

01:46:46.860 Or Nazis.

01:46:48.220 Yeah.

01:46:48.800 Right.

01:46:49.140 Yeah.

01:46:49.340 No, they're not.

01:46:50.100 No, they're not.

01:46:50.680 I found out on Twitter today, uh, uh, that that's not true.

01:46:53.760 That's not true.

01:46:54.240 Oh, you found that out on Twitter?

01:46:55.280 Yeah.

01:46:55.440 On Twitter today.

01:46:56.220 All the national socialists are not Nazis.

01:47:00.600 They're not.

01:47:01.100 No.

01:47:02.120 No.

01:47:02.400 Oh, well, that's going to be a pleasant surprise as well to an awful lot of people, uh, mainly

01:47:08.740 been on trial in Nuremberg.

01:47:12.800 Comforting.

01:47:13.280 That's good news.

01:47:14.060 Yeah.

01:47:14.420 Open up the jail cells.

01:47:16.080 To attempt to prevent, to present the defense here because Matt, you know, wasn't able

01:47:19.800 to join us today, but I think they would say, okay, this is the widest net we can cast

01:47:26.440 for people who would consider themselves right.

01:47:29.260 Right.

01:47:29.380 You've got everybody, you've got, I mean, they invited Gary Johnson as well, right?

01:47:32.720 Like Gary Johnson ran for the Libertarian candidacy.

01:47:35.520 He is a statist as well.

01:47:38.580 You could make the case.

01:47:39.600 Oh yeah.

01:47:39.980 Certainly for a libertarian.

01:47:41.200 I think he is.

01:47:41.840 Wow.

01:47:42.120 Um, but, uh, but you, so you could say that, and I think you could say, you know, it is

01:47:47.640 a right, they, it's a European right movement.

01:47:50.880 Right.

01:47:51.220 And you could say, which is a left wing movement here, but they do support some socially conservative

01:47:56.260 positions.

01:47:56.800 They're very against, you know, gay marriage, for example.

01:47:59.360 Um, but yes, there were lots of things that, I mean, as we talked about with Hitler last

01:48:05.360 hour, uh, you know, there were lots of things Christians could tie themselves to and say,

01:48:11.200 you know, I, they make sense on this.

01:48:13.160 Right.

01:48:13.360 Yeah.

01:48:13.640 But it's the rest of their policies you need to stay away from.

01:48:16.900 They're, they're very against illegal immigration, which many people in the audience are.

01:48:20.980 They also want to cut legal immigration by 95% into the country.

01:48:24.900 Some people, I guess, in our audience probably should, you know, believe that as well.

01:48:27.880 But I mean, it's not, I wouldn't say that's a mainstream conservative belief.

01:48:30.440 Are they for amnesty for the, uh, 1.8 million?

01:48:34.000 I doubt that.

01:48:35.640 No, they're not that conservative.

01:48:37.500 All right.

01:48:37.860 Yeah.

01:48:38.040 But by the way, they want part of their platform is universal access, uh, and a guaranteed right

01:48:44.420 to abortion.

01:48:45.460 I should point that out, uh, as for the socially conservative group coming to speak at CPAC,

01:48:49.820 that's it.

01:48:50.220 And a new European PAC, except, uh, this one's run by Russia.

01:48:55.060 Yeah.

01:48:55.360 Oh, you know, you get it out of Brussels.

01:48:56.660 Well, yeah, but Russia's our friend now, right?

01:48:58.180 We love Russia.

01:48:58.800 Oh, of course they are.

01:48:59.400 Russia's our friend.

01:48:59.960 Yeah.

01:49:00.200 Thanks.

01:49:00.660 That should work out well.

01:49:01.900 Jeez.

01:49:04.440 All right.

01:49:04.840 Pat Gray and Leash coming up in just a little bit.

01:49:06.560 Also, we should point out a couple things, uh, programming notes for the blaze tonight.

01:49:10.820 Pat will join us on, uh, the news and why it matters.

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01:51:27.120 Glenn Beck, mercury.

01:51:36.380 Glenn Beck.

01:51:37.660 Hey, just so you know, things could be worse.

01:51:39.740 Imagine if I got on the air today and said, by the way, the government has decided to change

01:51:43.840 the alphabet again today.

01:51:46.360 Yeah.

01:51:46.540 This is what happened in Kazakhstan.

01:51:48.140 They had a new alphabet introduced last year, had 32 letters, but it had tons of apostrophes

01:51:53.380 in it and the apostrophes were supposed to denote distinct sounds.

01:51:57.700 What happened was people got really pissed off largely because it's really hard to get to

01:52:03.140 the apostrophe on your, on your handheld device.

01:52:05.620 So you're typing a message on your phone.

01:52:07.320 And you're constantly bringing up shift and going to the apostrophe.

01:52:10.580 They've now reworked with less apostrophes, a new alphabet.

01:52:13.980 And that will be going in, even though people have bought signs.

01:52:16.760 Hey, old one.

01:52:17.580 But big government is the solution.

01:52:20.620 What is this?

01:52:22.500 Glenn Beck.

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The Glenn Beck Program - February 20, 2018

'The Time to Pay Attention is Now＂ - 2⧸20⧸18

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