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00:01:26.880 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:01:42.840 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:46.040 I'm going to talk about some of the news of the day.

00:01:51.920 The big stuff, Hunter Biden, what's happening with AI and the president yesterday.

00:02:00.640 A new piece of undercover video comes from James O'Keefe today.

00:02:05.100 The Pentagon found a whole bunch of buttload of money.

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00:03:46.800 So, I want to talk to you about some things.

00:03:51.700 Last night, I was here until, I don't know, about 9.30 last night.

00:03:56.740 I still have the second half of the Great Reset to record for the audiobook.

00:04:03.280 I have to do that today.

00:04:04.500 The audiobook is Dark Future.

00:04:06.560 And I want you to know, I make more money on the audiobook.

00:04:12.080 And the audiobook is really good and very funny.

00:04:14.900 But I ask that you would buy a hardbound.

00:04:17.840 I make less money.

00:04:19.860 I'm saying that because I want you to understand I have nothing to gain by saying that.

00:04:26.260 You won't own anything.

00:04:29.700 And in a digital world, you don't own the movies you, quote, bought, end quote, from Apple or Amazon or anybody else.

00:04:39.780 That still belongs to them.

00:04:41.880 You're in a long-term rental.

00:04:44.420 They can take it back at any time.

00:04:48.600 Books can be altered or deleted.

00:04:51.440 It is, this is book burning.

00:04:54.200 As they are changing books, they are engaging in Fahrenheit 451.

00:05:01.200 As you wake up one day and all this information, if it's deemed, you know, subversive or whatever, it will be gone.

00:05:11.620 I've been doing a lot of thinking as I was preparing for the museum next week.

00:05:18.900 And I want to tell you about two promises I made to God.

00:05:24.200 I made one in 2001.

00:05:26.840 It was September 16th, 2001.

00:05:30.180 No, sorry.

00:05:31.200 September 13th, 2001.

00:05:35.840 I had found out that I was going to be syndicated.

00:05:39.360 And I was doing a comedy show.

00:05:41.460 I was a big fat dummy.

00:05:43.380 I didn't know much about history or anything else.

00:05:45.260 I knew who I was at that time, thank God.

00:05:50.620 And I had already hit my absolute rock bottom about six years before.

00:05:56.180 And I know who rescued me.

00:05:59.160 And I know what I owe him in a way that I'll never be able to pay back.

00:06:03.800 And when September 11th happened and all of a sudden I was speaking to the nation, I got on my knees and I said, you got the wrong guy.

00:06:12.320 I don't know any of this stuff.

00:06:13.820 And I promised him and I promised you that I would do my homework.

00:06:21.560 And if I got it wrong, I would tell you I got it wrong.

00:06:26.760 Because we were going to have to learn some things together.

00:06:29.280 And I promised that I would always do that.

00:06:34.940 The second thing I promised was in 2008.

00:06:42.640 As I start seeing where the world is headed, I realized these people that we are dealing with are exactly what Hillary Clinton said they were.

00:06:53.560 Early 20th century American progressives.

00:06:56.680 Those are the evil progressives.

00:06:59.280 The knowingly evil progressives.

00:07:03.040 That's the Margaret Sanger group.

00:07:05.880 Okay.

00:07:06.480 Fabian socialists.

00:07:08.120 It's nasty.

00:07:10.180 They're the ones who taught eugenics and experimental surgeries and everything else.

00:07:16.220 They're the ones who taught it to the Nazis.

00:07:18.260 And I realized through a prompting that these people will destroy all of our history.

00:07:32.020 They'll destroy it.

00:07:33.520 They hate it.

00:07:34.960 Look at what the National Archives.

00:07:36.700 I cannot believe that this is happening.

00:07:39.700 Do you know the Declaration of Independence is no longer on the wall?

00:07:44.300 It's now down on the floor with other documents.

00:07:47.800 You don't walk up the stairs of the National Archives anymore and walk in.

00:07:53.040 You can't.

00:07:54.260 You have to be carefully taught.

00:07:55.980 You now enter from the back into the basement where they tell you what you're about to see and warn you that some of these documents are dangerous.

00:08:07.640 What the hell is that?

00:08:11.640 These people will change and destroy our history.

00:08:15.520 Last night I started working on the second half of the museum as we're packing everything up and putting it in crates and it's crazy.

00:08:24.620 I promised in 2008 that I would do everything I could to preserve our American history.

00:08:33.640 And we started with just simple things like George Washington's writings and his personal items and any of the founding documents we could get our hands on.

00:08:45.260 David Barton and I partnered on this.

00:08:47.140 We now have the third largest collection in the world of founding documents up to 1829.

00:08:51.620 We're third behind the National Archives and the Library of Congress.

00:08:57.640 And most of the collection is in the side of a mountain.

00:09:01.480 And if need be, it just won't be found.

00:09:06.500 And it may be a thousand years before it's found.

00:09:09.260 But like the Dead Sea Scrolls, they will survive.

00:09:14.720 So I started there.

00:09:16.480 And now it has grown into a collection.

00:09:18.960 This is the first time I've pulled it out, all of it, out of the vault.

00:09:23.360 And, or at least 1% of it, that's what's in the vault here.

00:09:27.760 And I've put it into, I started going through all of it.

00:09:32.140 And I can't believe the stuff that I'm seeing.

00:09:35.680 I mean, I know we own it, but I just, I can't believe it.

00:09:39.020 Because it straightens out so many truths.

00:09:46.300 I'll share some things with you later on in the program if we have time.

00:09:50.600 But I, I want to talk to you about the news.

00:09:53.560 Now with that understanding, I want you, I have been,

00:09:57.380 I have always asked myself, how did the German people go mad?

00:10:04.740 How did you convince the German people that killing millions of people was okay?

00:10:13.940 That hunting down Jews was fine?

00:10:17.100 Taking whole, whole communities and trapping them in a church and locking the door

00:10:24.700 and then setting it on fire was okay.

00:10:28.280 How do you convince people to do that?

00:10:33.060 Well,

00:10:35.220 first you have to destroy.

00:10:40.100 You have to first destroy what it means to be a citizen of that country.

00:10:48.720 What it means to be a German.

00:10:50.680 What it means to be an American.

00:10:53.180 Do you even know?

00:10:55.720 What does it mean to be an American?

00:10:58.700 Once you confuse them enough,

00:11:07.860 so they don't really know their history and they don't really know what it means to be American.

00:11:15.060 You have them fighting over the flag instead of the principles.

00:11:18.820 You have them fighting over politicians instead of the bill of rights.

00:11:23.920 You've got them, but that's only step one.

00:11:26.800 You also at the same time as you're dismantling everything,

00:11:31.520 you have to make them mad.

00:11:34.760 And that is a principle that has to be carefully curated over at least a decade.

00:11:46.260 Then you have to pervert and destroy their morals.

00:11:52.360 I'm reading this amazing book.

00:11:56.820 You have to destroy their churches and their morals.

00:11:59.280 And those are different.

00:12:01.680 Most people,

00:12:02.900 most people don't know the Bible.

00:12:06.100 Most people don't know any of this stuff.

00:12:07.900 They go to their church.

00:12:08.820 If they go to their church and they're like,

00:12:11.020 yeah,

00:12:11.500 well,

00:12:12.220 that's what the priest said.

00:12:13.640 And they don't even know.

00:12:14.940 You really have to destroy,

00:12:20.040 you really have to destroy what they think is right.

00:12:27.160 The difference between right and wrong and destroy that.

00:12:31.820 I've been reading a couple of books on Weimar Germany.

00:12:35.860 And one of them is Eric Weitz's book,

00:12:40.260 Weimar Germany and the promise and tragedy.

00:12:44.480 And it's a well-respected book,

00:12:47.360 been out for a long time.

00:12:50.220 And I'm,

00:12:51.200 I'm learning an awful lot from it.

00:12:53.440 But when we get to,

00:12:56.540 when we get to the society being completely deconstructed and there is no more right and no more wrong.

00:13:08.400 And this is before the Nazis came in.

00:13:10.900 Once you have sexual perversion and experimentation on people's bodies and,

00:13:16.840 and,

00:13:17.780 and trans surgeries in 1925,

00:13:20.460 that's the first one.

00:13:21.920 The guy died on the table because the doctor stuffed a uterus in him.

00:13:27.100 And that didn't work.

00:13:30.160 But now we,

00:13:31.380 of course,

00:13:31.680 no,

00:13:31.880 you don't need a uterus.

00:13:34.500 So as you go through and you,

00:13:36.840 you look where men become women,

00:13:40.160 women become men,

00:13:41.200 there is no truth.

00:13:42.540 There is no right and wrong.

00:13:44.160 The churches start to rise up and they start to pontificate and say,

00:13:50.460 this has got to stop.

00:13:53.220 And it's righteous indignation.

00:13:57.820 But have the churches been corrupted already?

00:14:02.880 That's what happened in Weimar Republic.

00:14:05.640 They were no longer preaching the gospel.

00:14:07.980 They were preaching more of a social gospel at this point.

00:14:11.060 And the socialists weren't even started on the churches and destroying the

00:14:17.360 churches.

00:14:18.720 If you read what the churches were saying,

00:14:21.360 it's exactly the same words.

00:14:25.640 You,

00:14:25.880 you would mistake this and say,

00:14:28.800 well,

00:14:28.880 that was written today.

00:14:29.860 No,

00:14:30.700 no,

00:14:31.180 that was right.

00:14:32.020 That was right at the end where the churches cried out and said,

00:14:37.760 there's pedophilia with our children.

00:14:40.220 There is prostitution everywhere.

00:14:44.860 Our children are,

00:14:46.920 you know,

00:14:47.700 in nightclubs and they're not nightclubs.

00:14:51.200 Like we understand nightclubs.

00:14:52.940 There is no peace.

00:14:54.560 There is no justice.

00:14:55.840 There's nothing.

00:14:56.740 We've got to do something.

00:15:00.420 And there is always somebody who has helped create the problem to stand in

00:15:05.980 that void.

00:15:10.600 Let me show you a couple of things.

00:15:14.420 This is a document that you'll see the original.

00:15:17.900 If you come to the museum,

00:15:20.020 I am piecing together how these things have all happened before.

00:15:25.120 And these are the seeds.

00:15:29.240 When you say,

00:15:30.560 never forget,

00:15:31.380 you have to look at the seed.

00:15:34.920 What comes from that tree?

00:15:38.800 And we've seen it over and over again.

00:15:41.060 And everybody in the media wants you to dismiss it.

00:15:43.760 This is a,

00:15:44.540 this is a letter from the guy who was de-Jewing the Bible.

00:15:51.460 He was inside all of the churches,

00:15:55.540 but he was a Nazi and he was inside all of the churches.

00:15:59.180 And he was convincing them that there's too much Jewish in Christianity.

00:16:04.560 We got to get the,

00:16:05.780 we got to squeeze the Jew out of Jesus and literally cut the first Testament out.

00:16:13.000 The old Testament had to go away.

00:16:15.200 And the churches almost did it.

00:16:22.180 This is a,

00:16:23.240 this is a document from Hitler that you will see the original draft on.

00:16:28.040 This is to the Russian front telling the soldiers.

00:16:31.540 Now,

00:16:31.860 how do you get soldiers to believe this is okay?

00:16:34.800 Telling the soldiers on the Russian front to rape as many Russian women as

00:16:43.540 possible and send them back as soon as they're pregnant,

00:16:49.200 because we'll have in 18 years,

00:16:53.540 500,000 new soldiers to go to war and die that aren't really German.

00:17:00.640 How do you do this?

00:17:06.900 You use NGOs.

00:17:09.400 This you'll see the original at the museum in St.

00:17:12.740 George and in Idaho in a couple of weeks.

00:17:15.080 Next week we open in St.

00:17:17.680 George.

00:17:18.400 This is a,

00:17:19.540 this is a document from the head of the red cross in Germany.

00:17:25.200 You know,

00:17:25.820 he was famous for,

00:17:26.840 look at the,

00:17:28.000 look at this.

00:17:28.440 It's it's there's the Nazi symbol and the red cross right on his letterhead.

00:17:32.680 You know what he was famous for telling IG Farber and the American people,

00:17:37.800 how to gas people with Zyklon B.

00:17:42.660 How do you get people to go insane?

00:17:44.820 You turn everything upside down and you have public private partnerships.

00:17:50.040 For instance,

00:17:52.460 IBM.

00:17:54.360 Once we had punch cards,

00:17:56.220 once the Germans had punch cards,

00:17:57.780 they knew where everyone was.

00:18:00.260 They knew their genealogy.

00:18:02.160 How do you think they rounded up whole neighborhoods and made sure they were Jews?

00:18:07.900 How,

00:18:08.200 how did they do that?

00:18:09.460 I B M and the brand new punch card system.

00:18:14.840 And IBM knew all about it.

00:18:16.500 You also need to,

00:18:18.620 you also need to partner with big pharma.

00:18:22.060 And then you award big pharma.

00:18:25.380 You make a big deal.

00:18:27.980 And you,

00:18:28.840 you've partnered with them and you say,

00:18:31.280 we're going in this direction and they partner with you.

00:18:34.760 And then you give them an award.

00:18:36.940 This is an award to IG Farber,

00:18:40.000 big pharma in Germany.

00:18:42.660 This is an award from der Fuhrer.

00:18:45.340 for their great accomplishment in producing Zyklon B.

00:18:55.940 Do you see any ties yet?

00:18:58.360 Because I'm going to play some audio for you in a minute.

00:19:01.240 Today,

00:19:02.720 where some of these things,

00:19:04.660 hmm,

00:19:06.020 look very familiar.

00:19:08.240 Back in 60 seconds.

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00:19:21.840 I recommend a sturdy rope and some gloves and a really good pair of shoes,

00:19:26.500 you know,

00:19:26.780 that you can walk a distance in.

00:19:28.720 But you know,

00:19:29.440 that's the thing you like.

00:19:30.160 I personally don't like it when my car breaks down and I don't care how much

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00:19:36.460 It's never okay.

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00:19:41.500 Oh,

00:19:41.840 well,

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00:20:45.820 So before I get to the audio,

00:20:58.600 I want to go down this checklist that I just made up,

00:21:01.880 you know,

00:21:02.440 as I was sitting here getting ready for the show today,

00:21:04.560 and I'm looking through all of these historic documents.

00:21:08.720 The reason why I collect all of this is to preserve the truth.

00:21:15.680 And I'm taking all of my children's money that they think I would ever leave to them.

00:21:22.680 And I am spending it all on this and it will be buried,

00:21:27.440 broken up.

00:21:28.400 No one will know where it is.

00:21:30.000 If things go bad,

00:21:32.040 I promise to you,

00:21:34.100 this will be preserved because the truth matters.

00:21:38.720 So I'm going down this list.

00:21:43.420 What does it take to get people to kill millions of people and think they're on the right side?

00:21:49.460 Well,

00:21:50.280 first,

00:21:51.480 you have to forget what it means to be a citizen of your country.

00:21:54.700 What does it mean?

00:21:55.960 What does your country stand for?

00:21:58.480 You have to have your government make you mad at what's going on and keep stirring the pot.

00:22:04.620 You have to destroy and pervert their morals and their churches.

00:22:09.080 You have to promote perversion.

00:22:12.980 You have to destroy money and impoverish your society.

00:22:21.420 Not the people who run the corporations.

00:22:23.980 Not the people who you need.

00:22:26.460 But everybody else.

00:22:28.040 You need them in bread lines.

00:22:29.740 You need them desperate.

00:22:31.160 I continue and show you the audio from today that goes right with us.

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00:24:20.000 So I want to show you some things as we look at how did this happen in the past where a society goes insane.

00:24:32.480 Well, you have to make people forget what it means to be a German, and then you have to give them all kinds of drugs, make that everything permissible and celebrated.

00:24:44.720 You have to mutilate yourself, deny reality, all of the things that were done in the Weimar Republic.

00:24:52.960 You have to pervert their churches.

00:24:55.380 You have to promote the perversion.

00:24:57.880 You have to impoverish the people, not necessarily the state, the people, destroy their money.

00:25:06.720 Then you have to make afraid, and you do that a couple of ways.

00:25:10.700 You do that by making things almost impossible for the person, the average person, to live by the law.

00:25:25.020 If you live by the law, well, they could change the law, or they can pervert the law, and they'll prosecute things with you that they're not prosecuting with other people.

00:25:37.500 For instance, let's say you keep a whole bunch of documents next to your Corvette, and then you keep a bunch of documents in a house in Florida.

00:25:49.540 One of those is criminal.

00:25:51.340 One of those is not.

00:25:54.100 Okay.

00:25:54.400 Let's say that, Stu, you go into a gun store, and you buy a gun, and you're all hepped up on drugs, and you're selling crack and buying crack and being with hookers, and you lie about being addicted to something and having a problem with drugs on a federal gun form.

00:26:18.200 When do we get the hypothetical part of this?

00:26:20.200 Yeah.

00:26:21.160 You go to jail.

00:26:22.300 Right.

00:26:22.520 Yes, I would go to jail for that.

00:26:24.020 But if you're in a protected class, you don't go to jail.

00:26:30.080 So you destroy the idea of justice.

00:26:35.800 Hmm.

00:26:36.660 Now, so far, impoverish the people.

00:26:39.380 That's happening.

00:26:41.140 Promote perversion.

00:26:42.300 That's happening.

00:26:43.860 Destroy and promote the churches and your children.

00:26:47.280 That's happening.

00:26:48.660 Make people mad.

00:26:50.120 That's happening.

00:26:50.860 Make them forget what it even means to be a citizen of that country.

00:26:55.880 Then you also have to, when you're making people afraid, it can't be just on the streets, like, for instance, Hitler had his thugs.

00:27:06.600 And he always claimed, I have nothing to do with the SA, those stormtroopers, those brown shirts, I have nothing to do with them.

00:27:14.520 I'll talk to them, you know, but I can't control them until he killed them all after their usefulness was done.

00:27:22.660 But what did they do?

00:27:23.680 They went and beat people on the streets.

00:27:26.100 They broke the windows of store owners that wouldn't put the Nazi flag in their store window.

00:27:32.540 They were the people that would make people afraid that they would either be hauled off or they would be a pariah in society.

00:27:42.260 Okay, that sounds familiar.

00:27:45.460 But then you also, you can't just have inside enemies.

00:27:49.000 Okay, those who will not walk in lockstep with the government.

00:27:53.320 But you also have to have some deplorables, Jews.

00:27:57.920 You have to have some people that really are the cause of all of our problems.

00:28:01.940 But then you also have to have an outside enemy.

00:28:06.560 Cha-cha!

00:28:08.440 O'Vladimir Putin.

00:28:11.620 And you have to go to war.

00:28:14.600 Because now, the red, white, and blue, or the red, black, and white, can be waved in everybody's faces.

00:28:23.040 And you have military parades, and everybody's proud.

00:28:26.140 And a lot of things get lost.

00:28:28.800 But not money.

00:28:29.780 Money is made hand over fist by the few.

00:28:36.500 Because there's a lot of money to be made with war.

00:28:41.300 In a completely unrelated clip of audio here, here's James O'Keefe talking to a BlackRock recruiter.

00:28:49.840 James is obviously undercover.

00:28:53.520 Here's the BlackRock recruiter admitting to controlling politicians.

00:28:57.740 Listen to this.

00:28:58.360 All of these financial institutions, they buy politicians.

00:29:01.800 You can take this big f**k ton of money, and then you can start to buy people.

00:29:07.120 I work for a company called BlackRock.

00:29:09.880 Meet Serge Varley, a recruiter at BlackRock.

00:29:14.220 Let me tell you, it's not who's the president, it's who's controlling the wallet.

00:29:19.680 And who's that?

00:29:23.400 The hedge funds, the bank, the banks, these guys want to buy them.

00:29:28.440 You're paying financing.

00:29:30.520 Yep, you can buy your candidates.

00:29:32.700 Obviously, we have the system in place.

00:29:34.900 First, there's the Senate's place.

00:29:36.340 And this guy's f**king s**t.

00:29:37.480 You've got 10 grand, you can buy a Senate.

00:29:39.360 You buy a Senate.

00:29:40.040 He goes on to say there's a lot of money to be made in war.

00:29:55.420 Hey, by the way, did you see?

00:29:57.820 Man, the Pentagon is so good.

00:30:00.940 You know, they used to buy way overpriced stuff, like toilet seats that were $600 in 1978.

00:30:11.080 But they've really, they've buttoned themselves up.

00:30:13.940 Now, they made an accounting error.

00:30:15.600 But for the first time in my life, they caught it, and it was in our favor.

00:30:23.340 Wow.

00:30:24.480 We got, we have, we have an extra, what, three and a half billion?

00:30:29.200 Or is it the full $6 billion that they found?

00:30:32.860 So there's more money to ship off to war, which is really, really great.

00:30:39.820 Okay, so back to the list.

00:30:42.020 But you have to have public-private partnerships, not just with the war machine, but also medicine,

00:30:52.520 IG Farber, or maybe Pfizer.

00:30:57.760 That is in a papered deal with the United States of America.

00:31:04.820 Pfizer took $150 million from Bill and Melinda Gates, their shareholders in Pfizer.

00:31:12.020 Took the money to start the search for a vaccine for COVID.

00:31:17.600 And then about a month later, the United States went, yeah, we got to get involved in that too.

00:31:22.240 And they did.

00:31:23.700 Now we're starting to see some things, but I'm sure this was just an error.

00:31:28.720 Cut to, here's a Pfizer rep admitting something that I didn't know.

00:31:35.020 Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market?

00:31:46.740 If not, please say it clearly.

00:31:49.880 If yes, are you willing to share the data with this committee?

00:31:53.680 And I really want a straight answer, yes or no, and I'm looking forward to it.

00:31:58.900 Thank you very much.

00:32:00.100 Regarding the question around, did we know about stopping the humanization before it entered the market?

00:32:06.400 No.

00:32:07.600 These, you know, we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market.

00:32:14.200 And from that point of view, we had to do everything at risk.

00:32:19.580 I think our Dr. Boodler, even though he's not here, would turn around and say to himself, if not us, then who?

00:32:26.860 So they noticed, she said, at the speed of science.

00:32:29.900 Now, what is science?

00:32:31.840 Science is you have a theory.

00:32:34.640 Then you produce something to see if your theory is right.

00:32:38.980 To do that, you must do testing and you have to measure.

00:32:44.560 Then you find out through science if your theory is correct.

00:32:51.700 So you're operating at the speed of science?

00:32:54.360 No, no, no.

00:32:55.300 You're almost working at the speed of alchemy or the speed of arrogance, but definitely not science if you didn't take the time to measure things.

00:33:05.560 And then, of course, what is it exactly?

00:33:09.140 Is it alchemy when you then round up people or shut people up or destroy their lives when they say, hey, did you measure this?

00:33:18.460 By the way, the guy who asked that question in the European Parliament is going to be on with us here in studio in about 15 minutes.

00:33:25.480 So we'll get more on that.

00:33:27.620 The last thing you have to do after you've found your deplorables fall guy, you've weaponized the government through public-private partnerships, you have a war on the horizon, you have disorder on the streets and a loss of real justice and a loss of people's understanding of their own history, who they are, what it means to be a citizen.

00:33:51.720 What perversions actually are and are not, universal truths, and they're really, really mad.

00:34:03.420 All you then have to do is just change everything because nobody really knows what they used to be anymore.

00:34:12.220 They just know they want it to stop.

00:34:15.920 And there's always, crazily, somebody who usually was involved openly or behind the scenes in all of the disruptions that comes to the table with an answer.

00:34:28.880 It is wonderful.

00:34:30.700 And they present you with, you know, a new society or a great narrative.

00:34:36.480 And they paint a very pretty picture for you.

00:34:43.260 It's utopia.

00:34:44.640 It's a bright future.

00:34:46.040 But I'm here to tell you it is a dark future.

00:34:51.740 We've documented all of these things.

00:34:55.300 Not the history part.

00:34:57.280 You can see that at the museum.

00:34:59.100 What we've done is documented in their own words everything that is going on right now.

00:35:07.740 And it is our responsibility.

00:35:12.760 I want to ask you, probably nobody's ever asked you this, and you've heard this phrase a million times.

00:35:17.620 Will you pledge mutually with each other your life, your fortune, and your sacred honor to preserve opportunity?

00:35:31.380 That's what America is really all about, and we've forgotten that.

00:35:34.100 We throw the word freedom and liberty around an awful lot.

00:35:37.080 What does that even mean?

00:35:38.980 People in England think they're free.

00:35:41.780 I don't think they're free.

00:35:43.180 Why?

00:35:43.660 Because they don't have the opportunities.

00:35:45.280 It boils down to opportunity.

00:35:49.900 And the opportunity for our children to be successful or failures in the pursuit of that success, to be knowledgeable, to be thinkers, not just dupes that follow the band, those are all going away, and they're going away quickly.

00:36:15.280 So, you're the key.

00:36:20.760 This audience, I've told you this for years, but now is the time.

00:36:24.560 You are the key.

00:36:26.360 You've done so much damage to ESG just by exposing it to your friends.

00:36:34.580 We're in the next phase.

00:36:36.660 I don't know if there's a third phase.

00:36:38.900 I think the third phase really is just all of this stuff being implemented through technology.

00:36:46.120 But everything is now in place.

00:36:49.520 And if we don't stop it in the next 12 to 18 months, we lose the opportunity to truly chart our own course as individuals.

00:37:02.120 And it's up to you to find the way to spread the word and to be somebody who is very aware and walking in the gospel of peace.

00:37:14.160 If that happens, we preserve opportunity, not just for us, but for the whole world.

00:37:24.760 If we fail, there is no place to run.

00:37:28.100 Come see our museum.

00:37:33.900 I've spent 20 years collecting these things to preserve them and to have you understand history and to preserve not only our history, but our culture.

00:37:42.300 And I invite you to join us in St. George next week.

00:37:49.960 I think there's only a few slots available next Monday and Tuesday, and then I think the rest of it's sold out.

00:37:54.780 But you can check out on the website, and that is unitedwepledge.org.

00:38:01.440 All the money goes, not to me or even our museum, all the money goes directly to United We Pledge, which they are building a liberty village.

00:38:12.640 And it is really amazing.

00:38:14.160 You'll find out more on the website if you care to.

00:38:17.000 But we would love to have you there.

00:38:19.540 If you can't make it, and you still want to be a part of the solution, if you need additional help, the book comes out in July, July 6th, I think, something like that, 3rd, I don't know, sometime in July.

00:38:36.300 And it's called Dark Future.

00:38:39.120 I'm recording the second half of the book, or I'm going to try to record the second half of the book tonight.

00:38:43.540 The first half is done, and it's really, unlike the paper copy, this one is funny, scary as hell.

00:38:54.520 But I tried to put a little sugar in the audio copy.

00:38:57.620 It's really worth it, but please buy the paper copy so you have it.

00:39:02.760 If you can only choose one, choose the paper copy, because you will own that forever.

00:39:07.600 Normally, you would check the web with an original source to try to find out if the thing on the web is accurate from the author.

00:39:18.960 And we're going to do the reverse here.

00:39:21.020 We're going to check the author's work on the web.

00:39:23.560 Amazon is telling me July 11th.

00:39:25.600 July 11th.

00:39:26.320 I knew it was in July, as I said, July.

00:39:29.820 I was pretty sure it had a 1 or something that looked like a 1, like a 7.

00:39:33.300 Right.

00:39:33.660 Okay.

00:39:35.140 Yeah.

00:39:36.720 Unbelievable.

00:39:37.600 It's not what I do best.

00:39:40.600 No.

00:39:41.080 It's strangely not what I do best.

00:39:42.980 Dark Future, available everywhere.

00:39:45.180 Back in a minute.

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00:42:08.060 You know, the reason why we're talking about this, Stu said, you know, it was a fascinating hour.

00:42:28.060 Why are you so dark here?

00:42:29.880 It's because I'm knee-deep in history right now and I'm seeing the news today.

00:42:35.420 And we say never again.

00:42:37.160 That means we have to look at the seeds.

00:42:39.480 What is that tree that we're planting right now?

00:42:42.100 And I'm seeing them in the news today.

00:42:45.600 The exact same seeds.

00:42:49.800 Warning.

00:42:50.880 Warning.

00:42:51.840 Wake up.

00:42:52.740 Do your homework.

00:42:55.560 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:42:59.880 According to the USDA, it looks like a full third of America's annually planted crops are not going to be harvested this season.

00:43:08.000 Why?

00:43:08.820 Fertilizer.

00:43:10.000 Hmm.

00:43:10.460 Why is that?

00:43:11.240 Well, Russia.

00:43:12.280 Oh, also the World Economic Forum and everything else that we're doing, the Green New Deal.

00:43:16.120 That means you're going to pay more at your grocery store.

00:43:19.100 When our dollar actually begins to fall apart, and according to NPR, who called me crazy for saying this for years,

00:43:26.360 they said it could happen any day now.

00:43:28.040 It could happen quickly.

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00:44:05.060 We got no room to compromise.

00:44:20.680 We got to stand together.

00:44:24.480 It's a course of life.

00:44:28.600 Stand, I'm standing, hold the light.

00:44:31.360 what you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment

00:44:44.940 this is the glenn back program

00:44:49.860 i love the comment from abc news uh yesterday uh clearly hunter did something wrong

00:44:59.220 do you think so uh yeah he's not gonna pay for it however the case is not entirely closed but

00:45:08.900 how do you get away with that you have to have an awful lot of power awful lot of money and you

00:45:13.880 have to have an awful lot of allies that want to make sure that everybody stays in power and happy

00:45:19.640 and everything else it is a conspiracy but it's not a theory uh we are in a global web right now

00:45:29.200 of very powerful corporations and political leaders uh many of them i shouldn't say that

00:45:36.400 a lot of them know exactly what's going on many of them are either so corrupt or so stupid

00:45:44.040 that they have no clue as to what they just think it's happening in their country no no no this is

00:45:49.780 happening all over the world and it is a plan a plan to get us into i don't know other than poverty

00:45:58.580 uh with the green new deal and build back better that's not just happening here that's happening

00:46:04.080 everywhere in the west our dollar our inflation we're not just having those problems that's happening

00:46:12.100 everywhere in the west we're in this one together so what's really going on we have a guest from the

00:46:21.900 european parliament with us who was not a politician until a few years ago and then he was like uh

00:46:29.260 i think maybe i better stand up because things are getting dicey i'm going to talk to him in 60 seconds

00:46:35.660 first it has been almost a year hasn't it since roe versus wade when did that come out the 24th

00:46:41.480 of june yes saturday yes in one year uh one year anniversary of roe versus wade being overturned by the

00:46:46.960 way um uh to preserve history the lawyer for roe versus wade uh made them available and thought that

00:46:56.380 it was going to go into some progressive university library and my wife i told my wife about that it

00:47:03.620 was for sale and she said oh no so i bought the entire case of roe versus wade every receipt

00:47:12.500 everything from rose attorney back in 1971 uh and you'll see it on display in saint george important

00:47:22.000 to preserve and not have it spun out of control anyway uh lives are still being lost um i want to talk

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00:48:20.020 donation uh pre-born.com slash back do it now sponsored by pre-born rob rose is a member of the

00:48:29.700 european parliament uh he is dutch and he is with us now and we were just talking off the air a little

00:48:37.680 bit about your history tell me you what what did you do before you got into politics i was an

00:48:46.000 entrepreneur i um i founded um i founded a couple of companies i bought companies i merged them

00:48:53.180 and in 2016 i sold most of my companies and uh well that was at the moment i was was no it was

00:49:01.700 starting earlier um i thought it's not going very well in in the netherlands yeah with uh with our

00:49:08.260 politicians and the way we are heading with uh you have the new green deal we have the green deal

00:49:14.740 um i had an engineering i'm i'm an electrical engineer that's my background and i had an engineering

00:49:20.300 company in uh in in energy so i i know pretty much about that and um and also in telecom but in 2016

00:49:29.540 i sold the most of it and well i had some extra time by then and i well i started helping a new

00:49:38.160 political party in the netherlands and um yeah you weren't you weren't a member of any party oh i

00:49:44.980 i i sponsored them but i was not even um i didn't become a member of that party yeah because there

00:49:51.120 was a very intelligent young guy and he was very enthusiastic and i said i'm so happy that uh someone

00:49:57.160 is uh picking up the the glass to to do this and um well but but but to make a long story uh short i uh i

00:50:07.100 ended up in in in the european parliament and it's incredible what i see there it's all about um

00:50:12.780 it's all about gender it's all about climate and um i i thought that politics was meant to be to

00:50:19.720 make people's lives better and not more expensive and more complicated i am

00:50:25.720 uh amazed that people all over the world have put up with what they have already gone through

00:50:35.140 um we are being told to disregard what we see disregard common sense scientific method um

00:50:46.100 none of it makes any sense and yet we're still kind of taking it yeah you seeing a difference in

00:50:53.680 no no i i see exactly the same and that's why i'm here in the united states to to create

00:50:58.460 um an alliance because it's it's our western way of life is in danger um and i i in the european

00:51:09.220 parliament i'm um the vice president of the the european conservatives and reformists and that's

00:51:15.660 one of the groups in uh but it's it's common sense i it's what president trump said it's call me a

00:51:23.800 conservative call me a classic liberal for me it's just common sense and i have exactly the same

00:51:29.200 there is no common sense anymore there what they are doing is

00:51:34.100 we're heading um in a certain direction and that certain direction that means that democracy is moving

00:51:43.760 away from people it's it's all top down that um the things are coming in like agenda 2030

00:51:52.120 policy uh this gender policy uh also this this climate policy hang on just a second do you have

00:51:58.840 your phone on you yes can we remove it from the studio yeah or turn it off it's just creating a

00:52:04.740 little interference okay go ahead um yeah sorry about that no no so um no democracy is moving away

00:52:13.140 from from the people it's um it's not what people ask for and it's all top down for example agenda 2030

00:52:20.100 i was um um i was one of the negotiators on that file in in the european parliament and it it was

00:52:27.380 welcomed by most of all my colleagues and it with a bigger plus but if you look at this 17 sustainable

00:52:34.460 development goals it's not helping the people for example um zero hunger uh no poverty

00:52:42.720 it's not that's not possible well it's it is possible but i'm i'm from the netherlands and we

00:52:49.400 have um the netherlands is 16 times smaller than texas we are a very tiny country right but we are

00:52:58.460 and i will say you're a wonderful country yes and i love the way you look at things and the system works

00:53:05.780 for you but you're not the united states of america you're we are the most diverse society ever yes

00:53:14.520 and now with the diversity that is coming into the netherlands it's getting dicey isn't it yes we

00:53:22.260 have a lot of we have a lot of the same problems yeah um but but but making my point about this uh zero

00:53:30.420 hunger yeah um we we are the second largest food producer of the world after the united states i know

00:53:37.820 i didn't know that until recently that is astounding and but but now they want to get

00:53:43.380 rid of 50 of the cuddle um our government because we have a nitrogen problem uh-huh it's it's it's too

00:53:51.760 stupid to explain because i if i if i tell the story you cannot believe it but um also we get

00:53:59.300 they have to get rid of 3 000 of our farmers but if you want zero hunger you have to produce food

00:54:07.600 we need more farmers correct and but but our farmers are very very efficient and uh also uh yes

00:54:14.620 huge innovation and they are doing so well so it doesn't make sense if you want because if you look

00:54:21.280 they say we have to save the planet but you we have to produce that food somewhere else so

00:54:26.560 winner they yeah i mean i don't know if they notice this but a lot of people live

00:54:31.540 where you can't grow food that's the point i mean and so when you talk about in one of the sustainable

00:54:37.900 uh uh uh ideas is to get rid of shipping get rid of shipping yes yes where are the people that live in

00:54:48.060 the actual food deserts going to get their food yeah and if you're the second largest producer because

00:54:54.560 they are putting the they're just grinding the farmer here in america and the rancher into the

00:55:00.300 ground exactly the same but you guys are ahead yes you guys are ahead we are the first and uh but

00:55:06.500 we see this also have you seen that in in ireland they do 60 000 cows they get rid of and it's also

00:55:13.440 happening in france and in spain already and i had a uh very wonderful discussion with commissioner

00:55:20.880 uh sid miller and he said it's it's it's also happening now in the united states he had an example

00:55:28.160 of um of a family they had a farm for for centuries generation on generation uh 17 000 acres and they

00:55:38.240 had a problem with the fence and um so they tried to um to repair it but there was still one nail not

00:55:49.760 not right so they took off this 17 000 acres of this farmer uh here in the united states also and

00:55:58.480 so they they they they they they're making it impossible yes but that's also with the climate the

00:56:04.560 climate policy we have we have created our own energy problems in 2010 europe was energy exporting

00:56:14.160 like the united states was energy exporting on the president trump now we depend on let's call them uh

00:56:22.160 not the most uh friendly and reliable and freedom loving that's that's the point yeah so

00:56:29.040 it we we we we can produce our own energy very easily but we make ourselves depend on so russian

00:56:37.920 what is it going to take for people in your country in our country to wake up to this well this is the

00:56:44.240 problem um for me it's the fight for freedom that's that's why i went into politics and what i discovered

00:56:51.600 is uh this fight for freedom is not for um scary people you have to speak out and but most of the

00:57:00.080 people are are captured in the system that's what i call it they can lose the job they they need a job

00:57:04.640 because they need an income to to to uh yeah to to to survive to live and when you speak out that was also

00:57:14.400 during covet um whatever you think about that but these restrictions were ridiculous but but people

00:57:22.320 kept silence even the people in my own political party said rob you don't you should not speak about

00:57:27.680 this because we have there is no uh political advantage in doing that i said what but but you call

00:57:35.120 yourself a classical liberal and you're not fighting for freedom yeah so what are you doing here correct

00:57:40.960 classical classical classical liberalism is really truly i think what could unite all of us yes again

00:57:49.200 um but it's it's a little frightening um to be in the same position that the world has been in before

00:57:57.600 i mean china said hey we're gonna farm everything differently and that was what 11 million deaths or is

00:58:05.040 that was that 20 million deaths in their five-year plan yes uh then you had uh russia do

00:58:10.880 the same killing millions but they knew better and they'd replace the farmers yes we're doing

00:58:16.560 all of these things over and over again when these things have happened in the past in the united states

00:58:23.040 but i think we're different now and not in a good way um the united states always had the bill of rights

00:58:30.400 and so we had an understanding of what we were fighting for we weren't fighting for freedom we were fighting for

00:58:36.560 for universal rights that were clearly spelled out and opportunity to be who we want to be and pursue our own

00:58:46.720 happiness in europe you don't have you your left and right can be uh fascism and communism and the

00:58:58.720 same people try to just play in the in the middle there a little bit you'll keep both of those things away

00:59:04.080 um what does it mean to be a conservative in europe because i'm afraid of nationalism and fascism

00:59:14.880 rearing its ugly head again here in my country but also in europe yeah it's it's i think we have a lot

00:59:22.000 of things in in in common uh we have a shared past and i also believe that we have a shared future we

00:59:30.240 because the western society in 1950 we were 30 percent of of the population on this planet now we are

00:59:38.480 only 14 so uh the western society is shrinking and we have of course external threat you meant china

00:59:46.320 already but um the i think the most important threat is is our cultural war and you you name it left and

00:59:54.240 right but i call it let's say the the globalist and the sovereignist i agree and um the the the the fight

01:00:05.200 to to yeah i call it the fight for freedom because what we see is um free speech is under attack the

01:00:13.920 fight of disinformation i i'm i'm doing a lot of legislation i'm in the environmental committee and

01:00:19.040 i mean i mean also in the energy committee and um we see the central bank digital currency is coming

01:00:27.200 up um the the the digital identity if you combine those two you have a perfect way to control people

01:00:36.800 okay will you explain that i think this audience for the most part understands that but a lot don't

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01:02:15.760 we're with rob rose he is a member of the european parliament from the netherlands uh so explain

01:02:20.720 to somebody who really doesn't understand what cbdc is and how it will control every aspect of your

01:02:28.000 life i i can explain it in a very simple way it's not money it's it's a it's a coupon it's a what a

01:02:37.120 coupon a coupon it's a coupon and you can if wait wait explain that yes i will explain that okay it's a

01:02:45.440 coupon um because they can if if it's programmable and that's the discussion now it is they can say

01:02:54.080 um okay we put your money on the central bank digital currency and you can use that money in that

01:03:01.680 time of period and you can spend it on that and that and that item so you boy this is a brilliant way

01:03:07.520 to explain it i never heard anybody say that it's a coupon which at the bottom of the coupon it always

01:03:14.000 says some restrictions do apply expires at this date yes that's how you can't you and there's no way to

01:03:23.360 withdraw from the system can you imagine that um we had this um um this problem in in europe with uh this

01:03:32.560 switz bank but also here in the united states with um svb yes and of course there if things getting out of

01:03:41.440 hand and there is a bank run then uh horrible things get nasty yeah but if you have a central

01:03:48.560 bank digital currency it's not a problem anymore because you switch off the system no one can do

01:03:52.400 anything correct and they are in complete control you know what's crazy is i've said this i don't know

01:03:57.920 if you know who ray kurzweil is but he is um a guy i've read for decades he's a futurist and he's part of

01:04:04.800 uh uh this transhumanism kind of oh yes yes yes um and he was talking to me about this is 15 years

01:04:13.440 ago about the things that were coming and how we're going to be able to implant things and you're going

01:04:17.040 to have the two-way community all of it's horrible and i said ray if you are keeping me alive by the

01:04:25.600 things that i'm transmitting and you're putting into me um what happens if i fall out of favor and you just

01:04:32.720 turn me off his response was oh we would never do that yes i didn't feel comfortable with that

01:04:40.800 and uh amazon just shut down here in america's somebody's smart home just shut them down for a

01:04:48.960 week because the an amazon deliverer said that they had made a racist comment which the tape shows didn't

01:04:57.840 happen but amazon didn't even call they just shut them down you're no longer a part of this no if they

01:05:04.080 say we should never uh no we shouldn't we will never do that it's our system is not based on trust our

01:05:12.000 system is based on checks and balances and oversight so um we if and if you look at history we can learn

01:05:21.920 right thank you thank you more in just a second with rob rose uh from the european parliament we

01:05:27.840 want to talk to him a little bit about war russia what's coming what's going on with all of that

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01:07:10.640 welcome to the uh the glenn back program we have rob rose with us he's a member of the european

01:07:23.760 parliament he's from the netherlands he is the vice president of the european conservatives and reformists

01:07:29.600 uh and head of the delegation for the uh ja 21 party what is that well it's just a new political

01:07:37.520 party in the netherlands we have 150 seats and we have 20 political parties it's crazy but

01:07:43.760 it's not working very well well you know what our two-party system isn't working it's also a problem

01:07:49.520 but i always say we have to split until we have 150 parties then we have a real democracy

01:07:55.680 uh well rob thank you for being here i know you're in the united states you're going to go to washington

01:07:59.920 and meet with some of uh our leaders and ring the warning bell there um and i hope you find some

01:08:06.720 allies we were talking about the farmers you told me off the air that you have what every two weeks

01:08:11.920 one farmer takes his life every 12 days yes it's a terrible situation over there these people are

01:08:16.800 really desperate because what the government is doing to them is it true they're taking the land

01:08:21.520 away from the farmers yes that's what they're doing and if it's it's also very crazy because um as from

01:08:28.320 from nature we are declining in population but we are growing because of migration we went up from

01:08:34.640 15 million people to 80 million people in the last 30 years 50 15 to 80 no 18 18 but it's still 20 20

01:08:43.680 percent and for a small country that's that's pretty much yeah and we have a lack of of houses and but

01:08:48.720 it's um it's a huge pressure on our system but they need the land and what we see now is that the um

01:08:56.720 um um the farmers are because of all kinds of regulation they can only use 90 percent of of

01:09:03.600 of their land to to build crops and etc and the other 10 is the the government is saying you

01:09:10.320 it's it's not allowed to do something it's your own land your own farmer from generation to generation

01:09:15.440 and the government is determining what you can and what you cannot do um with the world economic forum i'm

01:09:22.240 i'm sure we're on the same page with the world economic forum i i don't know but uh with the

01:09:27.040 things that they are doing with just the wef and u.n and all of our governments um in bed with it

01:09:36.080 i just don't see uh it's it's very malthusian well that yes it's a death sentence what what's coming

01:09:45.040 yeah this is what i meant in at the beginning i said democracy is is moving away from people yeah

01:09:51.040 um this is not what the people want we have a public private uh partnership partnership but it's

01:09:58.640 it's not with small businesses it's only with the corporate correct and small businesses are suffering

01:10:05.120 very very much also during covet they a lot of them didn't make made it because of uh they have

01:10:10.400 to close the businesses i'm one of them yeah and you spoke out early on kovid and that wasn't popular

01:10:18.320 yes i spoke uh out because um i didn't believe in all these restrictions right and um young people

01:10:26.720 not able to go to school we're creating dumb people um small businesses that that they had to close

01:10:33.280 because of nothing um it it it ruined our economy and we created um problems with people health

01:10:43.760 problems mental health problems one of what one out of five was really in mental problems in in our

01:10:49.840 country and and it still is not solved yet we're right with you yes and um so that's i it doesn't

01:10:59.040 make sense to do this unless you're trying to destroy what you already have yes especially with

01:11:05.200 small businesses yeah um let me switch uh quickly here because i know you only have a couple of

01:11:10.400 minutes left but um russia yes uh i don't know where you stand on this i'm not a fan of russia

01:11:19.920 they're not the good guys but i don't think we're the good guys either i mean our leadership i think

01:11:25.360 most people around the world are going what what are we go where are we going nobody's really made

01:11:30.640 the case in a cogent way that this is critical and that we can win and what it looks like with a win

01:11:40.080 i mean i think we're headed towards disaster in the european parliament we um you have to i'm not a fan

01:11:47.280 of russia either um i think it's terrible what they did to invade a free country it's not possible to

01:11:55.200 do that um but it's not about who is winning this war it's about who is winning the peace and i

01:12:07.680 i i think we have to help ukraine in defending themselves but we also have to push them to the

01:12:13.600 negotiation table and that is not happening they they are talking ukraine has to win this war you

01:12:20.720 cannot win this war it's impossible wasn't the netherlands the one that did the um uh did the

01:12:29.120 report on what was the blowing up the pipeline what was that nordstrom nordstrom didn't you guys do

01:12:34.400 the yeah that was no norway it was no way so i mean do you think you think we did it

01:12:40.720 i i i no one knows yeah only a couple of people yeah but it doesn't make sense for russia to blow

01:12:50.320 up his own correct infrastructure correct thank you so much um any way we can help you we we have to

01:12:57.520 have allies if if the people in europe stand up uh and the people in america and canada stand up we

01:13:04.640 have a chance of saving the wealth the what the west but if we don't and we're running out of time

01:13:09.680 we're running out of time very fast and that's why i'm here i'm trying to find allies and um yeah

01:13:16.080 let's let's fight for it's not about europe it's not about america it's about our western way of life

01:13:22.320 and our society as long as you're in the boat of standing up with people you vehemently disagree

01:13:27.920 uh with uh and let them have the same freedoms you're fighting for you have an ally in me i i'm

01:13:33.840 i'm so happy with that and that i mean it from the from my heart yeah thank you god bless thank you so

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01:16:30.000 welcome to the glenbeck programmer really really super happy that you're here uh i mean that sincerely

01:16:35.760 strangely that sounded sarcastic and i uh it's not now what was sarcastic was uh

01:16:43.600 you know i know everything about your country uh the netherlands or is that a collection of

01:16:47.600 countries is sweden part of that how about finland i know nothing about where you are except the

01:16:52.800 general area i'm an american we really are americans we we are really bad you have the american-made

01:16:58.880 t-shirt american giant on right now and i don't think he i mean he's obviously very very smart

01:17:04.000 i only speak one language and it's english and i speak it poorly um he speaks at least two so he's

01:17:11.200 smarter than i am i think i think he was impressed that you got the first letter of the country correct

01:17:16.320 do you think so yeah yeah norway he's in america norway is that is stockholm a country or a city and

01:17:23.600 is it in the netherlands i don't who knows is the netherlands the same as the nether regions right

01:17:30.160 and uh you know i said that you were dutch is seems totally how does that work you probably

01:17:37.280 speak what what about holland is that a different place to the same place yeah i mean i know the dutch

01:17:41.760 are from holland so what the hell is holland okay what i don't know did they break away what happened

01:17:47.200 we have absolutely no i was talking about my son was asking me about this we were talking about france for

01:17:52.480 some reason he's like so when you go to france do you have to speak french i'm like son you're

01:17:56.320 from america you speak whatever you want wherever you go that's how this works yeah and you tell

01:18:01.280 them i don't speak american yeah yeah they love that they love it but it's true no matter where you

01:18:08.640 seem to go i mean there's you can always get away with with the good old america standing there in

01:18:14.640 the castle looking at that tapestry now i'm from texas everything has a price how much for that

01:18:19.600 how much for that crowny thing you got up in that special room up there i love it oh i'm being from

01:18:26.000 this place oh and uh you know look it's it's good to see though that you do have some sane allies

01:18:31.360 around the world he seemed very safe i don't know anything about him he could be plotting the death

01:18:37.040 of millions i don't know i don't think so yeah i don't think so but i don't know where his country

01:18:41.760 really is it's hard to tell so it's hard it's interesting to uh to talk to someone though that

01:18:47.920 because you feel like even here it's rare to find someone who can see things clearly and to see

01:18:54.240 that um you know as someone who's not only recognizing this in their own country but seeing

01:18:58.400 it across the world and here in america i mean it's sort of scary that i well i asked him off the air i

01:19:03.680 said is there is there anybody in europe that does what we do here and he's like oh no and that that's

01:19:10.800 a big problem they don't have talk radio they don't have real freedom of speech like this on on

01:19:17.920 radio and listen to it while it lasts but they don't have this this is really if if talk radio and

01:19:25.600 now podcasting didn't exist where would you be hearing all of this can you imagine how different

01:19:32.400 we would be without talk radio without podcasting yeah i don't think we'd be i don't think we'd be

01:19:40.240 free right now yeah and that's of course why they've targeted all these things so so much i mean you look

01:19:45.360 at look at how much they freaked out when elon musk bought twitter i mean look at that look at this let

01:19:50.240 me play something on uh from kamala harris yesterday the um the roe versus wade being overturned is coming

01:19:59.040 up saturday for its one year anniversary listen to what she said about abortion this is fundamentally

01:20:04.080 about freedom the right to make decisions about your own life and your own body and this is a

01:20:10.880 foundational principle for our country we were founded on the notion that government should

01:20:18.560 at some point stay out of people's business which point is it just this point to say it in an

01:20:24.080 academic way oh is that the academic way it's a legal matter right and when we think about this

01:20:32.480 and connect this with so many other issues um i think we all have to stand up and say that you know

01:20:39.280 we as a nation stand for the principle of freedom what now can you imagine you imagine if there were no

01:20:45.760 podcasting and talk radio you'd hear that and you'd go is it just me

01:20:54.080 because they'd be hammering that point of view hammering it they still do there's just at least

01:20:59.920 some voice to push back against it right uh it and that's insanity wait a minute we have the freedom

01:21:08.160 to do what with our bodies what we choose explain covid will you explain that because i don't think we

01:21:16.480 have that right uh at least in your opinion she literally pushed tweeted praise for a vaccine

01:21:24.000 mandate right that was that was that was eventually thrown out but she supported every little bit

01:21:32.960 of that in fact she supports the invasion of government into every single aspect of your

01:21:41.120 life with this one exception this one exception what your air conditioning is set at what car you drive

01:21:47.600 are you going to have energy are you going to have a gas stove in your kitchen i mean there are

01:21:52.960 every aspect of your life she wants to be involved in and then she can come out and somehow make

01:21:59.920 murder with a straight face say murdering children is the one time government shouldn't get involved i

01:22:06.560 mean it's the most incomprehensible thing they turn into libertarians for 15 seconds a day unless

01:22:13.600 your goal is the elimination of people the the additional unwanted unusable unneeded useless people i

01:22:23.840 guess chaos and gaslighting and there can be multiple motivations here but it the how other than

01:22:32.960 stupidity right i can't come up with a good one yeah no i mean you could disagree yeah you could disagree

01:22:41.280 with me and and be for abortion but i i i think and maybe i'm wrong i don't think most people are

01:22:51.200 there with a good solid abortion should be legal argument yeah it's there it's just knee jerk i'm for

01:23:00.240 that when we were in new york when we were in new york doing the show um i had uh lunch with one of

01:23:05.760 john stossel's producers back in the day and she was a really really smart person we were just of

01:23:11.280 course you know nerds talking and we were talking about you know libertarian principles and i was

01:23:15.920 saying you know i i'm a libertarian leaning conservative and uh i think that's pretty much

01:23:22.160 how she described herself and we got into the pro-life pro-choice thing and i'm you know very

01:23:26.960 strongly pro-life i mean it's really really one of the most important parts of my philosophy you should

01:23:32.000 not be i don't know you should try to get children to be alive he still has scars on his face from

01:23:36.560 when i tried to kill him with a coat hanger right yes um and she had a libertarian argument for being

01:23:43.840 pro-life and she went through it and we talked about it and it was a co again i don't agree with

01:23:50.160 it but it was a coherent argument oh for pro-choice for pro-choice yeah a coherent argument

01:23:55.520 that worked with her philosophy correct which was a and jillette has made that yeah and it's basically

01:24:02.800 an extreme individual rights viewpoint right which they call radical and unworkable if you go into

01:24:12.880 extreme rights like i believe we should legalize every drug these are the first people to say are you

01:24:21.200 out of your mind can never be done and we got to limit this and limit that and limit this

01:24:27.440 yet they'll agree with the libertarian who stands up and would make that case and say yeah well for

01:24:34.560 these reasons i can disagree with that person but i can at least hear their argument go okay well i

01:24:40.960 disagree with it but that makes sense what she just said makes no sense it makes sense if you have

01:24:47.520 associated libertarian beliefs you could say okay all right look it's absolute freedom and you know

01:24:54.560 what a baby can't survive inside a one being cannot survive inside of the other being without the help

01:25:00.240 of the mother right the mother is required to do something if if you want to say from an extreme

01:25:06.160 libertarian view they don't have to be required to do anything they should be able to do something uh to

01:25:12.000 remove that you know the other person from them again it's a view i find to be completely misguided

01:25:17.120 it's at least one that on a good debate stage right you can have an academic conversation about

01:25:22.960 if you hold views like you know we shouldn't have police

01:25:30.320 if you get you we should have police for the irs right that are somehow involved in kicking down the

01:25:36.720 doors of gun stores uh and not arresting people that are burning our cities you really don't have a

01:25:43.840 cogent case when you have a philosophy that is involved in every aspects of everyone's life

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01:27:46.640 hello you sick twisted freak welcome to the uh program uh we have uh quite an hour coming up for

01:27:53.520 you there's a few legal issues uh that are kind of out there that maybe we should i don't know i'm

01:27:59.600 kind of interested in the hunter biden thing uh we're going to talk a little bit about that uh and

01:28:05.840 also the donald trump uh uh litigation that he's going through i i i don't understand there's

01:28:14.480 people i respect on both sides that are telling me the opposite things so i wanted to get them both

01:28:19.520 on and we get one side then get the other uh the first one is uh michael bakesh and he is a judicial

01:28:27.360 watch senior attorney attorney and he says what's happening with donald trump it i mean he's gonna he's

01:28:34.640 gonna win this this is really not that tough talking to alan dershowitz he says the opposite

01:28:42.560 and alan's been fighting for donald trump and you know all this legal overreach for years but he says

01:28:49.760 this one he thinks he's in trouble with so we're going to talk to both of them and get a feel on that

01:28:54.400 and also get any of their thoughts on wow this amazing story on uh hunter biden we go there in 60 seconds

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01:30:32.160 michael mikesh is on with us judicial watch senior attorney hello michael how are you i'm good thanks

01:30:37.920 for having me good okay so we have first of all can we just get your opinion on the hunter biden thing

01:30:45.040 if you have one uh i mean really four years investigation i gotta believe if they were

01:30:54.000 misdemeanors wouldn't somebody at the irs say guys there's nothing here you're not going to get him

01:31:00.160 on anything but a misdemeanor and it'll cost us millions of dollars and it's just not worth it

01:31:06.000 you know now that the investigation is over it's going to be interesting to see what uh records judicial

01:31:10.800 watch is going to be able to turn up because you're right after four years this is this is all

01:31:16.000 they can do what what have they been doing all this time right why would you spend all of this money

01:31:20.480 and all of this time if they're misdemeanors it doesn't make sense besides the fact that there are

01:31:27.920 different rules for different people yeah yeah um is the the case with the u.s district attorney in

01:31:35.360 delaware is it closed or it seems like it's still open uh you know i'm not 100 sure i believe it's

01:31:43.760 still open but what does that may not be okay all right yeah all right so let's talk about um

01:31:51.120 trump's case um alan dershowitz is coming on in a minute and he's saying that he thinks he's in

01:31:58.480 trouble on this one you said you're saying the the opposite so explain the case that they have

01:32:07.200 against donald trump and where you think the bright spots are yeah so basically the prosecution of

01:32:17.280 donald trump with with respect to the documents all started because the national archives somebody at

01:32:23.440 the national archives thought that maybe president trump had some records that maybe he shouldn't

01:32:30.480 have taken with him when he left office that's how this started and in the wall street journal i

01:32:38.400 wrote a piece talking about a similar case that judish watch had against the archives when it came

01:32:44.160 to president clinton and his records while he was in office president clinton created these audio

01:32:50.800 recordings and on these audio recordings had all sorts of information you know they had conversations

01:32:57.040 with foreign leaders it had discussions about um cruise missile attacks to get osama bin laden

01:33:05.680 it had information that would be classified had it gone through proper channels but instead president

01:33:13.040 clinton kept these tapes in his sock drawer and decided to take them with him when he left office

01:33:18.480 and did he declassify them before he took them he didn't do anything okay according to what we

01:33:26.560 know he simply took them with him and judicial watch wanted the tapes when he found out about them we

01:33:33.680 figured you know these are presidential records these are tapes showing president clinton being president

01:33:40.800 so we sued the national archives for the tapes and in that case between 2010 and 2012 the

01:33:48.240 justice department the obama justice department took the position that whatever president clinton took

01:33:54.800 with him were not presidential records they were personal records and there's nothing that they could do to get

01:34:01.440 them back in 2012 the district court here in the in in dc agreed with the government and the judge in that case

01:34:12.240 and she said the sole it is the sole responsibility of the president to decide what records are personal

01:34:19.840 what records are presidential and once they are taken out of the white house there's nothing that the court

01:34:27.840 could do to get them back now is that because i'm just trying to play devil's advocate is that because

01:34:35.760 these were tapes that he made and not top secret documents even though they may have contained top

01:34:45.360 secret information but he made the tapes you know it doesn't glenn doesn't really make a difference

01:34:53.040 because it not only it wasn't as though president clinton was you know pressing record and going out and

01:34:59.920 buying the tapes you know based on he was doing this along with a historian and based on the

01:35:05.920 historian's discussions about it what he's told the public um the white house operations staff helped

01:35:14.640 schedule the interviews help prepare the tapes probably went out and purchased the tapes um and so

01:35:21.360 the only thing that president clinton did was place the tapes at the end of the session

01:35:26.480 into his sock drawer and that's very similar to what president documents um if you look in the

01:35:33.920 indictment paragraph two says while he was present trump placed documents in boxes paragraph four says

01:35:44.000 when president trump left office he took those boxes with him to me it's not a sock drawer but it was

01:35:50.880 those boxes it was the same process president trump decided what he wanted to keep what he wanted to

01:35:57.040 leave and he took what he wanted to keep with him when he left office okay so help me out on this again

01:36:04.960 i just i i want to ask you tough questions because i really don't know legally where this is is headed and

01:36:12.000 except all the way around trouble um trump's defense is that his actions were protected under the

01:36:19.520 presidential records act but that act excludes and i'm quoting any documentary materials that are

01:36:26.800 official records of an agency so the indictment alleges that he had the information about our

01:36:33.120 nuclear program defense weapons capabilities potential vulnerabilities of the us and our allies

01:36:39.680 is it is it is it your uh view that these kinds of documents are protected under the pra because of the

01:36:50.240 bill clinton or is there more there's more um the fact that the presidential records act talks about

01:36:57.760 agency records is really is really a red herring because as the courts the dc appellate court um

01:37:06.400 here found that really the focus is are the records received by the president once the president receives

01:37:14.000 a record from the agency it's no longer just an agency record it's now a record received by the

01:37:20.320 president so it has a different status i mean just imagine it doesn't make sense that once the president

01:37:27.120 the president gets a record from the agency is it like a library book and he has to return it within

01:37:32.160 21 days absolutely not it's it's his record and under the law he can do what he wants right and there

01:37:40.240 there are exceptions uh no no no the it is treated that way with things like the nuclear code he has

01:37:48.480 access to that but it's in a football held by a member of the department of defense that's with him all the

01:37:56.240 time so there are some records that do have to be signed in and signed out right well maybe i mean

01:38:05.280 the question is what what is constitute what is allowed by the constitution and these are questions

01:38:11.680 that really have never been addressed the president united states is commander in chief everything in the

01:38:18.720 executive branch flows from him so there is one question on you know what limitations can congress

01:38:25.280 place place on the commander in chief but also there's a question of whether or not congress

01:38:29.840 can mandate and require another branch of government to do something and so there are strong arguments that

01:38:39.360 if the presidential records act is what um some folks say it is then that would be unconstitutional

01:38:49.280 because it's placing burdens on the office of the president that's not allowed um the other question

01:38:55.920 under the espionage act is authorization while while someone's in someone is in office while president

01:39:04.160 trump was in office he was authorized to maintain that information to maintain those documents if if you

01:39:11.920 went into the oval office he could show you that document because he had absolute authorization to do what he

01:39:18.080 wanted with it so the question is did he authorize himself by to take those records with him when he left

01:39:25.840 but hang on just a second because he does have the ability to declassify but even according to his own

01:39:34.880 words in the indictment there's a transcript of a conversation um where he holds up classified document

01:39:40.960 to somebody and he says somebody writing a book about him see as president i could have declassified

01:39:46.480 this well now i can't you know but so this is still a secret so he knew that he possessed something

01:39:54.000 secret he knew that he hadn't chosen to declassify it as president and now he's showing it to a member of

01:40:02.560 the press not as president right and then the question there and i think it's facts that again indictments are

01:40:12.160 just one side of every fact and i i don't know the facts you don't know the facts the american public

01:40:18.400 don't know the facts but the question is how whatever document he had in his hand how did he

01:40:25.600 get into his hand and i think we need what we need to do and what the public needs to wait is to wait until

01:40:33.120 all the facts come out to see whether or not he was in fact authorized to still have that record and

01:40:40.240 maybe the facts will show that he wasn't you know i keep thinking if president trump after he had left

01:40:47.280 office somehow got access to records he didn't have access to when he was present that would be

01:40:54.480 a problem where a problem may lie right but if the records were in his possession while he was office

01:41:01.680 and he took an affirmative steps to maintain those records when he left there are real constitutional

01:41:09.920 legal questions about whether or not that was authorized okay let me give you a statement from

01:41:15.360 um bill bar and i'm sorry i'm just playing devil's advocate because i i want to hit both sides i'm

01:41:20.640 going to hit alan with the same thing um both sides hard because i want to see i want to ask the

01:41:26.800 questions that people are not asking but i think the american people are asking um there's a statement from

01:41:32.720 one of not my favorite people in the world uh um a former attorney general uh bill bar i want to give

01:41:39.040 you a chance to respond to it he said quote i think the counts under the espionage act that he willfully

01:41:45.440 retained those documents are solid counts they gave him every opportunity to return those documents they

01:41:51.840 acted with restraint they acted very deferential to him and they were very patient they talked to him for

01:41:58.240 almost a year to try to get those documents and he jerked them around he finally it they finally

01:42:02.960 went to a subpoena and what did he do according to the government he lied and obstructed that subpoena

01:42:09.040 and when they did a search they found a lot more documents their official records they're not as

01:42:13.440 personal records battle plans for an attack on another country defense department documents about

01:42:17.920 our capabilities in no universe donald j chumps uh do these belong or personal documents of donald j trump

01:42:28.240 there's a lot there um to begin with the end part the justice the obama justice department would

01:42:34.800 would disagree so with the federal court that that concluded that once a president leaves office

01:42:42.560 it is assumed that the president chose to take those records had designated them as personal and that

01:42:50.240 there was nothing that could be done about it and so just because uh former attorney general bard

01:42:55.600 doesn't think those records should have been taken doesn't mean that lawfully they couldn't have been

01:43:01.760 taken the other the other interesting part is attorney general bar seems to focus a lot on the fact that

01:43:09.120 president trump may have not for all the records that he had been asked to turn over well under the espionage

01:43:17.760 act that's irrelevant so even if he had returned those records if the espionage is what everybody

01:43:25.520 thinks it is yeah then president trump could have still been charged under the espionage act okay

01:43:32.720 and so this like so this idea that it's somehow different because he still had the records really

01:43:38.560 is just showing an emphasis that he's displeased or unhappy with president trump's actions and has

01:43:44.480 nothing to do with what the law actually is we're talking to uh michael bakesh and he has litigated over

01:43:50.800 a hundred public record cases in both state and federal courts on behalf of judicial watch

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01:45:28.400 so i am glad that uh president trump is living in florida or anywhere out of new york or uh the washington dc

01:45:38.080 area because i think you can actually get possibly a fair trial tell me about the judge and uh is it

01:45:45.520 going to make a difference that it's not in dc you know it probably will make a difference it's not in dc

01:45:52.560 because once you uh get out of this bubble um people think more clearly and are a little bit more level

01:45:58.640 headed but i just keep thinking it probably doesn't matter entirely where the jury is because these are

01:46:05.040 complicated confusing constitutional issues that a jury is going to need to deal with and i think it's

01:46:12.240 going to be very hard for a prosecutor to convince every single juror that president trump had no

01:46:20.400 authority as president um to remove the documents and to keep the documents that he wanted to keep

01:46:28.000 i hate what about ism but with hillary clinton and what she did with documents putting them online

01:46:35.680 um cutting off confidential at the top of the record so they can be facts to her um crazy crazy

01:46:43.360 inappropriate stuff that she wasn't president she didn't have the the up she didn't have the right

01:46:48.080 to even do that um and even joe biden he had boxes that i think it said took him two days to go

01:46:55.600 through and his attorneys to pack him up and get him out um what's the difference between those two

01:47:02.400 and donald trump i think the fact he's donald trump people seem to dislike him and want to treat the

01:47:11.040 laws treat him differently under the law i mean there's no excuse for what hillary clinton did you know i

01:47:19.920 litigated for numerous years foia lawsuits you know against the state department trying to get access

01:47:26.080 to all of her emails we took depositions we had discovery into not only her close personal

01:47:32.880 confidence but state department employees and in the end we know that her attorneys went through and

01:47:41.520 deleted emails that they did not want to return in the state department and the justice department said

01:47:48.720 that was okay okay i have 45 seconds i don't know if you can answer this but it's got to be a short

01:47:54.720 answer um when you look at uh this case and i just lost it so i'm sorry i was just focused so much on

01:48:01.680 the 45 seconds that i just lost the question but it was a good question mind you so maybe i may have to

01:48:07.200 have you back uh and answer that um hang on michael thank you so much for everything you're doing good

01:48:14.640 luck uh keep pressing everything you guys are doing at judicial watch is so important you want to help

01:48:20.800 them you can go to judicial watch.org that's judicial watch.org thank you michael bakesh

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01:50:09.600 welcome to the glenn beck program so when when trump was indicted last week uh i was on vacation

01:50:26.400 and i was not paying attention in the news and i mentioned it on monday when i came back but i told

01:50:31.840 you i i wanted to really get the best minds on both sides um and talk to them and because there's

01:50:39.520 there's people who like have defended trump and may like trump but one of those who i think is very

01:50:50.800 credible on this because he has defended trump time and time and time and time again written books about

01:50:56.720 it um now says this is real trouble and his his name is alan dershowitz uh so i just had this is

01:51:05.360 no big deal we can win this uh and he says there's real trouble so let's get the real trouble side uh

01:51:14.000 now from alan dershowitz hi alan how are you hey how are you uh there's real trouble but that doesn't mean

01:51:20.640 that it can't be one this is a very very serious charge you know in my book get trump i predicted

01:51:27.920 all of this i also predicted the indictment of hunter biden on minimal charges in order to demonstrate

01:51:34.880 the the claim that there's equal justice but the problem with donald trump is illustrated by that plaque

01:51:42.640 that some people have in their homes with a stuffed fish on it that says if i'd only kept my mouth shut

01:51:48.560 i'd still be swimming all of trump's problems come from his own statements what he said the most

01:51:55.520 serious one is what he said to a writer who was writing a book on meadows in which he allegedly

01:52:01.520 showed him some classified material he says it wasn't he said it's just newspapers you hear on the

01:52:06.000 tape apparently rustling and i don't know what the facts are but and saying i could have declassified

01:52:11.600 this but i didn't so it's still secret that seems like the government will use it as an admission

01:52:19.520 that he didn't declassify everything if he hadn't said that his claim of declassification would be

01:52:24.720 very strong then he spoke to his lawyers now i don't think those statements should ever be admissible

01:52:29.920 those are lawyer client privilege statements i was aware i would be fighting like hell to keep those out

01:52:36.080 because i can't talk to my clients anymore as a result of that ruling so it's only with clients

01:52:41.120 so i i watched enough perry mason and i know that's not actual law but if you break the bond of

01:52:49.360 attorney client privilege you sometimes you're working with a dummy like me and i'm like i don't know what

01:52:55.680 happens if we don't give him to them well i'm asking for your legal opinion what if you tell it to a

01:53:02.480 priest what if you say to a priest um you know i know this would be a sin but i'm thinking perhaps

01:53:09.600 maybe of not giving it over and the priest says no you must give it over or you talk to your doctor

01:53:16.960 all these privileges are now at risk as a result of this terrible decision made by judges who were

01:53:24.640 hand-picked by the special prosecutor remember the cases in florida but this special prosecutor brought

01:53:30.400 these legal motions to compel the lawyers to speak in dc where he knew he'd get a more favorable court

01:53:37.520 so he was judge shopping and then he got his favorable rulings and then he takes the case

01:53:44.160 to florida wow and i would hope florida court would look at that in a very very critical light because

01:53:51.600 as i say i have to tell my clients now don't ask me any questions because i may have to disclose them

01:53:58.000 i'm not taking notes anymore with clients i'm not turning over anything that my my clients tell me

01:54:04.160 in confidence just because some court says you know and then there's this absurd thing of a tainting

01:54:09.680 where if you say something's lawyer client privilege the government says all right we'll pick some

01:54:14.320 government lawyers who have lunch every day with the prosecutors and who stand next to them in the

01:54:19.360 urinal every day and we will allow them to look at the lawyer client privilege material read them

01:54:26.000 and oh they promise they won't with a week and not say anything to the prosecution that's what's

01:54:31.760 happening now and judge cannon had the courage to write a decision saying no she was going to appoint

01:54:38.480 an independent judge a former judge a great judge in new york to look over the lawyer client

01:54:44.320 classified materials in the court said no no no no that's special treatment for trump no that's what

01:54:48.720 everybody should get so the crime uh the crime fraud exception to attorney client privilege you don't

01:54:57.040 buy into that here i buy into it in general but i have to tell you i've done 250 cases involving

01:55:03.760 criminal defendants i would say in half of them the conversation included some reference to maybe if i

01:55:11.280 went to brazil i couldn't get caught no you can't do that you'll get caught but you know the client raises

01:55:17.040 all kinds of questions that's what that's why it's confidential correct it's the same as the

01:55:22.640 anything they want it's isn't it the same reason why we have the presidential uh confidentiality when

01:55:29.600 when you're talking to the president in the oval and you're brainstorming people don't want to say

01:55:35.120 things that maybe are unpopular or will say things that are maybe crazy in in hindsight but you're

01:55:40.960 brainstorming i don't want that on the record i want to be able to have a private conversation if you

01:55:46.400 can't have that you don't really have anything no i agree with you look when i taught at harvard for

01:55:52.960 50 years i would say to my students what you say in this class is confidential and you can be as

01:55:59.280 speculative as you want uh you can say any wild thing about criminal law you can make statements

01:56:05.840 that you would be ashamed to have made public this is for a socratic discussion and in socratic

01:56:10.880 discussions anything goes the indictment doesn't ever mention the presidential records act or or

01:56:19.120 the word espionage or the word espionage that's being thrown around all over the place yeah so wait

01:56:26.880 so so so so where is i mean because i have gathered uh from what i've read from you that this serious

01:56:35.120 charge and he's going to have a hard time why it it sounds like there's a lot of other legal issues

01:56:42.800 to really go after there are and that's why it's not a slam dunk case that's why the case should never

01:56:49.040 have been brought i said that you don't bring a case against the man forget about former president

01:56:53.440 you don't bring a case against the man who's running to become the president against the incumbent

01:56:57.520 head of your party unless you have a slam dunk case now i think they have a case but it's not a

01:57:03.440 slam dunk case there are these legal issues involving lawyer client privilege the government

01:57:07.920 doesn't have the piece of paper that was waived allegedly in front of this writer so they have

01:57:13.040 a hard time proving that they have to deal with the classification issue it's a winnable case but it's

01:57:18.480 also a losable case whereas the case in new york is absurd case in new york the the prosecutor

01:57:24.640 should be disciplined for bringing it in in 60 years of this doing this business i've never seen

01:57:30.320 a weaker indictment than new york i cannot say that about the florida case that doesn't mean

01:57:35.840 it's going to end up with trump being convicted particularly since the trial

01:57:39.840 is in a fair district unlike manhattan okay i love manhattan i live in manhattan but you can't

01:57:44.640 get a fair trial with donald trump in manhattan maybe you can in palm beach county okay so so let me

01:57:51.040 let me take you through the crazy scenario that uh he goes to trial in the middle of an election

01:57:59.920 season right he's convicted sentenced what does this look like we've never we didn't do this with

01:58:06.960 nixon we've never done this before what what does this look like hope we'll never do it again nobody

01:58:13.120 knows what it looks like the only thing we know for sure is he can run for president even if he's in

01:58:17.280 prison um eugene v debs ran for president when he was in prison curly became mayor of boston while

01:58:23.360 he was in prison the constitution specifies only several criteria and the constitution means what

01:58:28.960 it says so you can run um you can even serve as president while in prison that's not going to

01:58:34.080 happen judge is not going to sentence him to prison for these crimes uh these crimes did not endanger

01:58:39.360 national security they are not espionage the media is throwing around the term espionage the first

01:58:45.040 thing that has to happen is this trial must be on television we the american people do not trust the

01:58:52.560 media to tell us the truth about the trial if you watch msnbc and cnn and read the new york times

01:58:58.960 you're going to think it's an open and shut case of guilt and if you see other networks you're going to

01:59:03.280 see it's an open and shut case of innocence you know i was a lawyer in the oj simpson case there was a

01:59:08.640 poll that showed that people who actually watched the trial on television were not surprised at the

01:59:13.600 verdict but people who read about it in the newspapers were shocked beyond belief so we have

01:59:20.880 to be able to see this trial and the word espionage should not be allowed to be used in the trial by the

01:59:26.320 prosecutor and if he does use it there should be a mistrial with prejudice why is this why is espionage

01:59:32.320 where did they even get that it's the name of the statute it's as if congress passed the statute

01:59:37.680 entitled the child molestation and insider trading act and they indict somebody for insider trading and

01:59:43.680 they go in front of the jury and say this man has been indicted under the child molestation

01:59:49.680 wow the name of the statute it was passed in 1917 to go after war resistors mostly religious people

01:59:56.800 who had a conscientious objection about going to the first world war and woodrow wilson passed the

02:00:02.960 espionage act which had very little to do with espionage it had mostly to do with dissent and

02:00:08.080 whistleblowing and all of the whistleblowers uh have been indicted under the espionage act i've

02:00:14.640 defended many anti-war protesters and other dissenters under the espionage act and the

02:00:20.160 government loves to use the word espionage but there's no allegation here that alan went to foreign

02:00:26.000 enemies real quick i've only got about two minutes uh we're talking to alan dershowitz host of the

02:00:30.560 der show it's podcast it's great also the author of get trump um tell me your thoughts on uh on hunter

02:00:38.800 biden and what what's just happened what's happened is we don't know uh if he just did the three things

02:00:46.160 he was indicted for then it's a fair plea bargain most people who are late in their taxes don't even

02:00:50.880 get indicted i do think that uh filing a gun license application if you're a cocaine addict and not

02:00:58.080 disclosing that is actually a more serious crime but that's a fair result but what about what he

02:01:03.600 wasn't indicted for what about the investigations that are going on about barisma about those alleged 17

02:01:11.280 tape recordings including two of the president what about uh the uh uh other information that we have

02:01:18.000 the laptop a laptop top we don't have anything about that and therefore i think there's a special

02:01:24.800 obligation on this prosecutor to issue a report he has to issue a report to garland but then garland

02:01:30.320 should make it public so we should know whether there was an adequate investigation from what he

02:01:35.760 was charged with the sentencing seems correct but if there was information that we don't know about

02:01:41.520 that would incriminate on these other things why would this thing take four years four years i can't

02:01:48.480 imagine the resources that they spent for misdemeanors well the only explanation is that they

02:01:56.080 did look into barisma they did look into the laptop and they found nothing and they found nothing

02:02:00.800 but i want to know that i want to see that with my own eyes i don't want to read that in the new york

02:02:05.280 times or msnbc or cnn i don't believe them i want to see it with my own eyes i want to hear that tape

02:02:11.840 with my own ears and i want to see the trial of donald trump on television so i can make a judgment and

02:02:17.440 you can make a judgment for ourselves we will believe our eyes not what we read in the paper i

02:02:23.440 will tell you that you are a great example of that just now i had a different opinion of what you had

02:02:31.360 said on donald trump than i do walking away of course my wife had the same thing my wife came to

02:02:37.360 me and said oh my god did you see what they say you said about donald trump i said that's the headline

02:02:42.560 read the read the article read the actual quotes and she reads the actual quote and said oh my god

02:02:47.520 he didn't say anything like that but cnn did that to me they doctored a tape of what i said on the floor

02:02:54.320 of the senate and made me say which i didn't say that a president could commit murder and not be

02:03:00.640 impeached they just doctored a tape and the times believed it and other newspapers believed it now there's

02:03:07.120 a lawsuit so you've got to see it with your own eyes more today than ever before alan dershowitz thank

02:03:13.360 you very much sir my pleasure thank you always great to have you on uh our sponsor this half hour is

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02:05:26.720 you know i i always say don't believe your eyes and ears and here i did uh i believed the media take on

02:05:34.240 what alan dershowitz said well you're an incredibly flawed person and that's part of the reason why

02:05:39.440 that happened um i of course knew exactly what he said and was not surprised by any of it have you

02:05:44.640 ever uh heard the phrase i'm cutting your salary thankfully no but uh it's surprising in this

02:05:53.680 particular job it really is i will say listening to alan dershowitz i mean he you know he's very

02:05:58.160 good at laying this stuff out he's obviously a very successful lawyer have you ever done though a a

02:06:03.120 long form podcast episode with him no but i i should that would be fascinating because not only

02:06:09.280 is he's been there for so many important things i mean just honestly you could do i could listen to

02:06:15.840 an hour of him just talking about the oj of the oj thing or or his defense i mean we had him on when

02:06:21.920 you know he was being accused by one of the epstein accusers of really terrible things and we brought

02:06:28.400 him on we said hey we're gonna ask you the tough questions he laid out his defense we're like all

02:06:31.840 right well i don't know if he's telling the truth but but but but you know we we listened to him and

02:06:35.520 she she dropped she dropped it and she said i don't know if it was him yeah i mean that's yeah pretty

02:06:41.200 bad yeah you know he has can i ask you there's so much of this stuff it would be a fascinating here's

02:06:45.200 the one question i want to ask him alan you're in your 80s if if i were if the government was coming

02:06:53.440 after me my first call would be to alan dershowitz you're in your 80s dude did you raise up anybody

02:06:59.840 who do you trust who would you call is there anybody i hope there is i hope so too but how

02:07:06.880 frightening is that that name the attorney name the attorney that you would really trust to really

02:07:15.440 just fight all out and knows their business like alan dershowitz i don't know anybody question is does he

02:07:26.000 the glenn back program

The Glenn Beck Program - June 21, 2023

The TRUTH About Trump’s Legal Challenges ｜ Guests： Alan Dershowitz & Michael Bekesha ｜ 6⧸21⧸23

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