The US Has Been in Decline. Can Tariffs Bring Renewal？ ｜ Guests： Stephen Moore & Hiram Sasser ｜ 4⧸3⧸25
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Glenn Beck explains why tariffs are bad for you and your family, and why you should be worried about them. He also talks about how they will affect your grocery bill, and what you should do about it. Glenn Beck is a conservative commentator, bestselling author, and radio host. He is a frequent contributor to the New York Times, CNN, and the Wall Street Journal, and is one of the most influential people in the conservative movement.
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Today, we're going to talk a lot about the tariffs and what they mean to you.
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You can expect your grocery bill to jump about 5%.
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If you're spending about $150 a week, that's going to be now $157 a week,
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which is not easy for the average American to do.
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That's according to the National Bureau of Economic Research.
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We're going to get into some of this, but I want to tell you why it's happening.
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Because it is a choice of pain now or pain later.
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And I'll show you what the choice is before us.
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And we're also going to go through everything that it means to you and your budget and your family all this hour.
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If I dared you, if I double dog dared you, would you eat a bowl of cereal that had been sitting outside for a year?
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After all, he eats kibble food and that sits on a shelf or has to sit on a shelf for years without changing.
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Processed food just sits there full of weird fillers and cooked beyond the point of usefulness as any kind of food.
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You just dip a little scooper into it and you sprinkle it over your dog's food and presto chango,
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you've got all kinds of vitamins and minerals and probiotics and antioxidants and everything else
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that is good for you and good for your dog so he can have a happy, healthy life.
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Let me get straight to the point on, uh, and I, I, I hesitated.
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Do I start with the pain that is coming or do I start with a true, true story about the
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pain that is coming either way so you can then take all of the facts and put them together
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I'm going to show you the two choices that are in front of us.
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The United States and the rest of the Western world are at a crossroads, um, today.
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And Donald Trump is the only one that is actually addressing this.
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Everything else, every other politician has not told you these things.
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The choices that we are going to make today will shape the future for generations to come.
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The American people elected Donald Trump in 2024.
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Because for nearly 20 years, the right track, wrong track indicator, you know, that poll,
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Plus, more people are feeling that we're on the wrong track than the right one.
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Even in the latest polls, like the March, 2025 Gallup survey shows the highest right track
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So that means 58% say we're still on the wrong track.
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We see, we're not believing that our kids are going to have a brighter future than we had.
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We also know what we've been doing is not working.
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That's why Donald Trump was put in because instinctively, we know this isn't working.
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Our kids don't have the promise of a better life that we used to.
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And much of the leadership in the West, including the Democratic Party here, definitely those in the left, certain Republicans, the global elites, like the World Economic Forum.
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All they've been doing, and hear me closely, because here's choice number one, is managing our decline.
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They no longer believe that this system of freedom and capitalism and everything else works.
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That's why the World Economic Forum is doing what it's doing.
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We've slowly been getting worse and worse and worse, and the average American, I'm convinced, doesn't want this.
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So let me lay out the choices that are in front of us and the stakes.
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The everyday person wants a better future for their children.
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The U.S. national debt is at $35 trillion as of today.
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The annual deficit is averaging $1.5 trillion over the past decade.
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That's 100% of every dollar, every penny that the United States makes.
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We're now spending over a trillion dollars a year just on interest payments.
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That's more than we spend on education and defense.
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And remember, we're way number one in the entire world on both of those things.
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But the lies from the politicians on both sides have been,
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And we're seeing it now in the decay of our cities, of our institutions, of our children's education.
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People are not feeling like it's a bright future in front of them.
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The International Monetary Fund warned in 2024 that the unchecked debt could lead to a fiscal crisis within a decade.
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Spiking inflation, interest rates, and leaving our kids with a hollowed-out economy.
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The promise of a better life in the West is fading.
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Do you look over at Europe and see what's happening in Europe and go,
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England, no rush to get over to England to see, you know, jolly old England,
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because they're going to be like that for a long time.
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In 1990, 60% of 30-year-olds earned more than their parents did at the same age.
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That's according to a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research.
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Our kids are facing stagnant wages, growing at 3.5% a year.
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Housing, the median home price now is $420,000.
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That's six times the median income, according to the National Association of Realtors.
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It used to be a three-to-one ratio that we had in the 1980s.
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2023, the American Society of Civil Engineers gave the U.S. infrastructure a C-grade.
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How many times have we had an infrastructure package?
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Do you realize how bad just our air traffic control system is?
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They're estimating a $2.6 trillion investment gap over the next decade.
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650,000 people on the streets every single night.
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Crime in major cities in Chicago, Philadelphia.
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Leadership in both the U.S. and across the West.
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They're more focused on globalist agendas than they are any of these problems.
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And all of their agenda items make these problems worse.
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All of that rhetoric pushed centralized control and sustainabilities over your individual liberty.
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So as the Democratic Party's focus on expanding social programs,
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they have added $6 trillion to our debt since 2010.
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Why are they expanding this cushion for homelessness and everything else?
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We're going to have all these people out of work.
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You'll have to listen to the whole show today because in hour three,
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I'm going to show you what we need to be doing for the future.
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And it's a speech that I would love the president to hear and give.
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All this stuff that's going on, this is all data.
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The WEF's own 2023 report called for global governance to address climate and inequality.
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68% of Americans in a Pew Research poll this last year prioritize national sovereignty over global cooperation.
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So the people in these countries, especially ours, want the individual sovereignty.
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We are being managed to our own demise or decline.
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So all of these things that are coming out, I'm so frustrated because all the things that were considered conspiracy theories
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that dragged my name through the mud for I don't know how many years.
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You've been dismissed because you knew these things to be true.
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Twitter files revealed government pressure on social media.
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Censor speech confirmed by court documents in Missouri versus Biden.
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You want to just kill grandparents if you believe that.
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Now, Department of Energy, the FBI, everybody is saying, no, no, no.
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Some evil politicians, evil corporations, et cetera, et cetera.
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Most of them, I think, just have self-serving motives or some of them have self-serving motives.
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I think most of them actually just are going along with it.
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They're just going along because that's what humans do.
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Or they actually genuinely believe that the principles that built our nation and built the West no longer work.
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And if they thought you were with them, they wouldn't be hiding all of their actions or silencing any dissent.
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So they just need to get that decline locked in.
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And once that decline is locked in, and we are very close, that's why it's going to hurt so much when we turn this ship.
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2024 YouGov poll found 62% of Americans believe free speech is under threat.
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You have Millay, whose election saw 56% voter support.
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Now others are saying, wait, we've got to eject all of this stuff that we've been doing for the last 100 years and go back to the principles.
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Okay, because centralized and unchecked spending and globalized control just doesn't work.
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Okay, Bill of Rights, free markets, individual liberty, the rule of law.
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These have been treated as like curiosities, not our bedrock anymore.
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You know, 45% of Americans now self-center because they have a fear of backlash.
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45% of us don't say what we believe because we're afraid it'll come back to haunt us.
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40% of Americans live in states where you can't have a gun or it's so restrictive you don't buy a gun.
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The Tenth Amendment reserves the power to the states, yet federal spending now accounts for 25% of every dollar of our GDP.
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Well, let me pause and I'll take you to the tariffs and deregulation and the tax cuts.
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All the things that everybody's freaking out about.
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And honestly, I am concerned about it, too, just as much as you are.
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But I want to take you there because I want to show you the choice that is in front of us.
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I just got back early this morning from time traveling to the future.
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Okay, the 10% tariffs on imports, 54% on Chinese goods, yada, yada, yada.
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This is all to aim to bring parity in the world, to have us stop being raped.
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And when you saw those charts that he put out yesterday, if you did, it shows how are we possibly the bad guys here?
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Because we're not charging anything that they are charging.
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That's according to the National Bureau of Economic Research.
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Entrenched bureaucrats, globalist elites, the people who don't believe that American principles actually work.
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There are some in our own party, the Republican Party, if you happen to be a Republican.
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The question is, do they accept the reality of where we are and the choice in front of us?
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Do they have a better and bold idea that they'd like to share with the rest of the class?
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Because the choice in front of us is really stark.
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Do we manage our decline or do we take a hard path to rebuild?
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Decline means more debt, projected to hit 122% of GDP by 2035.
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More decay, a future where our kids do not inherit a strong nation, but a much, much weaker nation if it's still a nation.
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And the hard path means short-term pain, higher prices, market volatility, big time.
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You know, I don't know if you saw the market dropped.
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S&P 500 dropped 2.8% after the announcement yesterday.
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And the risk of a trade war, which is real and not good.
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Donald Trump is betting on this is the chance of renewal.
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Could raise by a million in five years with deregulation and everything else.
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Farmers could see a $16 billion boost as food production rises 10% in the next four years.
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Tax cuts, like reducing the 22% rate to 20, could save you $1,600 a year.
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Our kids need to be healthy, educated, and grounded in truth, not fantasy.
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They need to know the difference between right and wrong.
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Yet 40% of Gen Z believes the truth is subjective.
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The need for resilience, the kind that comes from failing and getting back up, not from participation trophies.
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20-24, University of Michigan study found 60% of young adults lack coping skills.
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We cannot hand our children a broken system and then also not give them any skills to fix it or the courage to try.
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Are you willing to pay the price today for a chance at their success?
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But the payoff might be our only chance to survive.
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It could be that we have a strong, leading America by 2030.
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More jobs, less debt, cities revitalized, kids that can thrive.
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You know, the Bill of Rights being our bedrock again.
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But that's what made us great in the first place.
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I bet on the principles that built this nation.
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I think this is a fight worth having and doing.
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You know, my grandfather was the best storyteller ever.
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You know, I don't know if your grandfather was a great storyteller.
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Or that story he'd tell about the war whenever grandma wasn't around.
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And if you're listening to this program, that's probably who you are.
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You have the responsibility to pass those stories down to the next generation.
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And our kids are not sitting at the dinner table listening to the old stories anymore.
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In a similar vein, you have the responsibility to preserve all of the old memories from your family that you can.
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Steven Moore was in the Rose Garden yesterday for Liberation Day.
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He is a guy who has traditionally been against tariffs.
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And this was very bold yesterday what the president did.
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And everybody knew tariffs were his favorite word.
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And I think probably in the end of the day, I think it will work.
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But, you know, the Dow futures are down another 1,000 points and the Nasdaq's crashing.
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Does that actually matter in the short term that the Dow is down?
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I mean, that's the company's, you know, I know that affects everybody's, you know, 401k and everything else.
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But I think people right now are more concerned with, what is this going to cost me in groceries?
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So, I mean, the market does matter because it's a kind of forward-looking indicator of where the economy's headed.
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Mostly what people care about is, you know, what will this mean for gas prices and what will it mean for going to the store and groceries?
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Listen, I think my summary, and we talked about this the other day on your show, is that Trump is right that it is not a level playing field.
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And it is true that these other countries have been ripping us off.
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And, you know, I've been doing a lot of interviews, as you can imagine, over the last 24 hours on this.
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And, you know, especially with a lot of the foreign press, like BBC and Australia and news and, you know, the French news agency.
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And they're so indignant, you know, about, oh, my gosh, Donald Trump's causing a trade war.
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First of all, our tariffs are one-third as high as yours are.
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Because when he put out those charts, I was like, oh, my gosh, how are we possibly the bad guys?
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But then I see on X something that said in a community note, no, that's not true.
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They just made some calculation up, and that's not what we actually pay, which is true.
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Those numbers that the Trump administration put out were a bit exaggerated.
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But that doesn't negate the point that I was making, that they do charge a lot higher terrorists than we do.
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Now, I happen to think that we benefit from that.
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If Trump can pull this off, and he may well, and he can get these other countries to do what they should do, both in terms of their own interests, but also in terms of treating the United States fairly, then it would work out really well.
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And the freedom to trade is at the core of what economics is all about.
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If you and I trade, Glenn, and I give something to you and you give something to me, by definition, we're both better off.
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And so I do hope that we – I hope that outcome happens.
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I think that we're already seeing – so, for example, the – I have about six or seven manufacturing companies that are part of my institute, and they're good supporters of what I do.
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And they're frantic right now because they're saying, look, we get our aluminum from Vietnam.
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I mean, our economy is highly globally integrated, and that makes it – it's the reason we have the most efficient economy in the world.
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So now they're running into supply chain problems because they don't know if they can get the aluminum.
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So the factories are only running at, say, half capacity.
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So there is going to be – I want to be clear about this.
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There will be short-term pain, no doubt about it.
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The question is, how long will that last, and when do we get to the good part where these other countries start cooperating and we create more jobs here in America?
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Do you believe Europe when they say, fine, and we're going to unleash our own war back on you?
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If that happens, then we're in a trade war, and that's really, really bad.
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But it would be insane for the Europeans to do that because, listen, Trump – again, I said this on your show the other day, but I'll say it again.
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You have to read his book, The Art of the Deal.
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By the way, I would recommend that to anybody in their 20s or 30s, you're getting your career started.
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Read that book because Trump is so insightful in that book, and it's very simple, Glenn.
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If you and I are at the negotiating table and we're negotiating something and you have leverage over me, you're probably going to win that negotiation, right?
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And if I have leverage over you, I'm probably going to win the negotiation.
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Every country in the world has to trade with the United States.
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In other words, if China couldn't trade with the United States, their economy would go into a Great Depression.
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You know, there's no way they could survive without access to America's market.
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He's using that leverage and American power to force countries to do things they should do anyway.
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What I'm here to tell you, though, is, boy, this could cause some – this could cause some pain.
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I mean, we could – you know, people lose money in their 401ks.
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Factories can't get their – you know, maybe workers get laid off.
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Stephen, what would you think our goal is here?
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Because I saw the results of, you know, these tariffs being talked about.
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Israel came out and said, well, we're wiping it to zero, right?
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And, like, for me, that's a great outcome for this policy.
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Because if the policy is to bring jobs and manufacturing back here, if everyone wipes their tariffs to zero, which would be my preferred outcome, wouldn't affect that, right?
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It is – I mean, I think it's mostly to do just that so that we have a level playing field and that countries stop, quote, ripping us off, as the president would say.
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And that would mean we would be able to – you know, for example, our agriculture industry, you know, we are the breadbasket of the world.
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And we produce a lot of wheat and a lot of corn and a lot of barley and a lot of beef and dairy products.
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A lot of these countries, you know, keep that out.
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They won't – I mean, Canada does have very high tariffs on our agriculture products.
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So imagine now Canada eliminates those tariffs.
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We're going to have a lot more production here.
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But they're going to pay a heavier price because then their farmers are in trouble.
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I mean, this is a very complex kind of situation.
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Except that our farmers are much more – you know, that's the point.
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We are the most – in a free trade world, we win.
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So we will continue to dominate the world economy in a free trade environment.
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And there's no question that – you know, let me put it very simply.
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You know, we import a lot of coffee beans from Brazil.
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Because they have the best coffee beans, right?
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We sell a lot of, let's say, microchips to them.
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Because they don't make microchips, and we do, but they make good coffee.
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I mean, that's the whole basis of what trade is about.
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In countries, it's called – the term for this in economics is comparative advantage.
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If you produce something really well, and I produce something very well, it makes sense
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You make, you know, the apple – you grow the apples, and I grow the bananas.
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And we don't want to be Fortress America, although, you know, we could be.
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You know, the United States is the biggest market in the world by far.
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And one of the things that has made America – many, many things have made America the
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most powerful and prosperous country in the world.
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The United States is one giant free trade zone.
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You know, South Carolina can't put a tariff on North Carolina, right?
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And so that's one of the reasons we've – you know, we are so prosperous.
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You know, the apples from Washington State are produced in Washington, and then, you
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Stephen, I was saying just a minute ago that what people have to understand is there
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is half of the world – Western world, maybe more than half – is just managing the
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And Donald Trump is standing up and saying, no, I don't believe that.
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I think we need to go the 100% opposite direction.
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And so he is shedding all of these things from the last 100 years because they have to
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But especially Europe and anybody who's in with the WEF, they are saying, well, but we're
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never going back to a free society with, you know, the Bill of Rights and all of these
00:35:22.120
It's got to be a globally run, managed society.
00:35:28.540
It's not whether I pay more for my eggs or my car now, although that's the way it'll feel
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It is actually, is there a free and leading America in five years, or do we just continue
00:35:54.240
We created these incredible companies like Google, Amazon, NVIDIA, these companies that
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The big next thing, you see, if I have one problem with Trump is saying, what it does,
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manufacturing jobs, of course, we want a manufacturing sector.
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We don't want manufacturing workers to lose their jobs.
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But the future, who's going to lead the world in the next 25 years is robotics, artificial
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And the way we did that, by the way, is we deregulated.
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Remember in the early 90s when the Internet was first there?
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And we we spawned thousands and thousands of companies.
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I want to I'm worried a little bit that Trump is looking in the rearview mirror.
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I mean, robots build the houses and we can do it at 40 percent less expensive, 40 percent
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But, you know, what does that mean about the future of construction jobs?
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You know, maybe they're not going to be around because these robots are going to build.
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So I want to make sure we're creating the jobs of the future, not the jobs of the past.
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You know, Steve, it was a really good point, and Stu asked me yesterday, when we're bringing jobs back with AI, what jobs are we bringing back?
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that we talked about last night on our wednesday night special it was all about the out of control
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judges that are they're all from the left this is all so well planned and coordinated it's really
00:47:20.460
sick because it's the same people that we have found since we were you know digging into the
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tides foundation exactly the same people they're just wearing a different you know hello my name
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is name tag but it's the same group of people what how do we stop them i have uh hyrum sasseron he's
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from the first liberty institute he's a executive general counsel the judiciary is growing out of
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Hiram Sasser is with us first liberty institute executive general counsel
00:49:06.540
uh on the judiciary last night um i showed you some of the names and organizations that are funding
00:49:14.480
this judicial coup against trump and that is exactly what it is and it is well orchestrated
00:49:21.180
well planned and well funded what do we do about it Hiram welcome to the program
00:49:26.380
hey thanks for having me you bet so uh last night i kind of went through these and it is sickening
00:49:32.040
to see how well planned this is and it has nothing to do with anything other than uh thwarting donald
00:49:39.760
trump and his agenda it doesn't have anything to do with the actual law or or anything else these are
00:49:44.480
the same people that were planning for his impeachment before he took president the first time
00:49:50.120
you know what i always find amazing is that everybody thinks that this is like a practice right
00:49:56.220
like we get to run our plays and there's no opponent going to be on the other side right
00:50:00.200
i mean there's there's a team on the other side they're very smart and they're well organized and
00:50:05.620
they and they work really hard for the things that they that they believe in and so we have to work
00:50:10.040
doubly hard look the the nationwide injunction thing has really gotten out of control i mean in the
00:50:16.160
20th century it sort of kind of emerged in the 60s you'd have a few here and there uh i think a
00:50:22.900
couple against president reagan a few against uh uh president clinton uh by this by this time in
00:50:29.700
by this time in biden's administration there were only three there's like 159 now well that's right
00:50:36.440
well look they're they they're they've really ramped up the cost what's fascinating by the way glenn is
00:50:41.840
that the left complained about nationwide injunctions when they were applied when you know all like you
00:50:47.700
basically 14 of them were applied uh uh to the biden administration uh there's a lot of what
00:50:55.700
people don't understand really is that there's only two there's only two institutions that can fix this
00:51:01.480
problem of nationwide injunctions either the supreme court's gonna have to put an end to it which they
00:51:06.160
can or congress is gonna have to put it into it which they can uh but but there there's no way
00:51:12.740
really uh from from a legal standpoint to stop until we get to one of those one of those two
00:51:17.660
inflection points but what's what i think is very very critical is is that if you would look like you
00:51:23.560
look at judge katzmerrick for example when he enjoined the fda's uh approval of of of abortion drugs
00:51:31.640
what one of the things that he did was he actually halted his order for a week to allow for an emergency
00:51:39.420
appeal by the united states like what judge bosberg was doing you know turning turn the planes around
00:51:45.340
i mean that's that's just that that that's that's beyond the pale he you even with the power to issue
00:51:52.360
a nationwide injunction a district court judge should give the government the opportunity to do
00:51:57.760
an emergency appeal in order to be able to have somebody else grade their papers and and unfortunately
00:52:03.140
that's this isn't about the rule of law this is about trying to control the policy and that's the
00:52:07.660
right i mean when you know the the left cheered when uh joe biden didn't just go against the
00:52:14.280
district court he went against the supreme court and said well they told me i couldn't spend this money
00:52:19.420
which is clearly unconstitutional um and uh you know we're just going to give all these uh refunds
00:52:25.560
and pay all these people's uh school uh school bills he couldn't do that and then when the supreme
00:52:31.340
court came out he said i'm just going to find another way to do it he did it over and over and over
00:52:35.040
again i don't have a problem if you are violating the constitution if president trump is violating
00:52:40.180
the constitution that is the supreme court's job to say hang on you can't do that it is not the
00:52:47.200
district court's place to stop an administrator from doing administrative work it is the supreme court's
00:52:56.380
place and uh i mean i suppose you you as a district uh judge could get involved um i don't think you
00:53:04.020
should at least at this kind of level that they are you know no no district court said hey you got
00:53:09.340
to turn the enola gay around no the president that's his responsibility to do that not court congress yes
00:53:17.080
not a court how far out of control is all of this just to put it into perspective for the average person
00:53:25.740
well look what's what's going on is that you have one one judge uh issuing an injunction against the
00:53:34.540
entire united states government that that is embodied in the power of one man the only person
00:53:40.940
who's elected by the entire nation and the entire executive branch is housed in one person and the people
00:53:49.020
that that person decides to employ in order to in order to effectuate policy then you have this one
00:53:55.300
district court judge not elected by anybody right who's telling that person what to do look that the
00:54:01.420
what really needs to happen is the supreme court needs to put a clamp on this uh and and and at the
00:54:08.180
very least all these decisions they need to be they need to be put on ice until they go to the u.s
00:54:14.000
supreme court for the final resolution now if the court says hey i agree with that judge that's fine
00:54:18.100
that's the supreme court and then congress can step in and fix it but that's that's the real that's
00:54:23.460
where where the rubber meets the road is that you're and and the left remember they complained
00:54:29.080
remember during the biden administration it's all about forum shopping do you remember all the
00:54:32.060
yeah remind people yeah i yeah look all they all the left complained about as well you know anytime
00:54:39.740
anyone wants to sue the biden administration you know they go to texas you know and and and they go
00:54:45.220
find some district court judge in texas well i've noticed that i've noticed that none of the people
00:54:49.660
on the left are suing the trump administration they're not filing their cases in texas right
00:54:53.960
they're going to find they're going to go find their judges and and and here's the fascinating part
00:55:00.140
you remember all those attacks on judges i mean judge katzmerrick and amarillo had a a billboard
00:55:06.620
just outside his neighborhood to remind his kids of what a horrible person he is all right and and and
00:55:13.940
we don't you don't see the federal yeah i never saw the federal judges association issue a statement
00:55:18.360
defending the judicial independence of judge katzmerrick uh and that's why judge ho actually
00:55:24.380
resigned recently from the fifth he's around the fifth circuit judge ho resigned from the federal
00:55:28.740
judges association because he didn't he basically couldn't stand what he said was he couldn't stand
00:55:34.740
the hypocrisy of what was going on with with the fact that they now issued a statement trying to
00:55:41.720
defend the independence of the judiciary because of you know all this rhetoric about uh these judges
00:55:46.860
are uh you know that that's a threat to judicial independence it the hypocrisy runs thick here
00:55:53.160
there the the left is against injunctions until they're for them they're they're against judicial
00:55:59.200
independence until they need it they are they are constantly switching sides just because it's about
00:56:06.320
a fight about power and and whatever gives them the power so look bottom line is this it's up to
00:56:13.280
congress there's a bill in front of congress they're debating it now hopefully that they can address
00:56:17.500
nationwide injunctions look one last thing i'll say glenn is this when we represented navy seals
00:56:22.420
to sue the united states navy because of the covet vaccine mandate violating their religious their
00:56:28.020
religious objections to the to taking the vaccine we had navy seals uh we didn't do a nationwide
00:56:34.920
injunction at first liberty uh we actually did the did the right thing we filed a class action lawsuit
00:56:40.700
we followed all the rules of filing a class action lawsuit and that's and that's how we were able
00:56:45.460
to win and we defeated the navy there is a way to do this right getting rid of nationwide injunctions
00:56:50.640
it's not gonna it's not gonna hamstring anybody everybody can do it the way we did it at first
00:56:55.160
liberty and still win yeah i tell you it's but it's you know and i know it's not about winning uh this
00:57:00.040
is just about destruction this is just about uh hobbling this administration so we can't get anything
00:57:05.940
done and they'll just keep moving on from one another they've already planned like i think like
00:57:09.600
another hundred uh lawsuits by the end of the year he hasn't done anything yet and uh and they've
00:57:17.140
already like yeah you know wait until you see what's coming next fall how did what what what are
00:57:21.600
you talking about how are you planning all these lawsuits in advance well it it will it look it's
00:57:26.900
called lawfare this is uh yes the the left has always been has always been better at it have you
00:57:33.020
noticed you know you know they always have to now they have to attack the left has to attack the
00:57:36.740
supreme court you know we had to come out in great defense of judicial independence you know
00:57:40.860
the left loves judicial independence for their district court judges but they never talk about
00:57:44.300
it for the supreme court they don't mind the protesters outside uh justice kavanaugh's house
00:57:49.940
you know with his daughters like looking out the window to see people like chanting you know death to
00:57:54.680
their dad right like the left doesn't care about the attacks of the supreme court why because they
00:57:59.500
don't feel like that that those are that they own that court anymore but if you go back in time
00:58:04.560
when when the left had a had a stranglehold on the u.s supreme court oh it's gone back 20 20 years oh
00:58:10.420
oh the american bar association the aclu all they ever talked about was judicial independence all they
00:58:15.620
ever talked about was defending the judiciary look it's not about principle for the left it's just about
00:58:21.480
power and on our side we have we have fought principally and with principles in order to try to
00:58:30.320
advance the the missions that we want to advance in court and it's time that the supreme court put a
00:58:35.120
clamp down on some of the nonsense or congress but one of those two we're going to have to do it
00:58:39.460
hyrum thank you so much hyrum sasser he is the first liberty institute executive general counsel
00:58:44.660
you can find their website and support them first liberty.org or on x at first liberty um let me go to
00:58:52.260
steve dace quickly he's uh kind of waiting here to to uh chat with us about the same thing you
00:58:57.760
you you know and i know it's time for something to happen you have a plan steve well let's go back
00:59:07.100
to the conversation you were just having a few minutes ago with hyrum who i have also known for
00:59:11.120
years and have an immense amount of regard for yeah so let's say you can get a you can get a congress
00:59:16.740
who can't even decide when they should vote who should vote can they vote okay and it's now on a
00:59:21.780
three-week break effectively let's say you could get them to limit these kinds of federal national
00:59:29.060
injunctions okay when is to stop the left from just marching right into a federal court and putting
00:59:36.780
an injunction on that okay hey judicial review nothing nothing nothing because we're back to the
00:59:43.440
same place we always are they're outside of their constitutional limits glenn you you can't quote
00:59:49.560
laws to men with guns the old saying says about marxists right okay and so they're going to have
00:59:54.880
to be put back in their place okay there's no there's no way around this other than showing the
00:59:59.320
american people they don't have this power and acting accordingly all right so i want to talk to you
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frustrating because i feel like i've had this same conversation about these same people for the
01:01:46.720
last 25 years and they just keep reinventing themselves putting a new mask on and saying no
01:01:53.300
we're not that we're now this they just keep changing names but it's the same people and same money behind
01:02:00.060
it how do we stop it because congress is not going to this is not correct just to reinforce your point
01:02:06.700
look at all of the greatest gains until obamacare all the greatest gains are left made in this
01:02:11.800
generation glenn yeah all came from judicial fiat things people at the time would not have voted for
01:02:17.240
yes engel versus vital in the 60s taking a prayer and god out of schools pleiler versus doe in the 80s
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you have to taxpayer subsidize the children of illegal aliens roe versus wade in the 70s kilo versus new
01:02:29.380
london you don't have any private property rights on and on and on and on it goes and that's because
01:02:34.200
what hyrum said a few minutes ago is 100 correct you're dealing with people whose only metric is
01:02:39.260
power and control and so they will do what they want and then come up with a process to palpatine
01:02:45.020
it and say i will make it legal that's what they do we cannot play within some rules of a quorum of
01:02:51.420
decorum and um and and social compact in the midst of a color revolution okay so how do we do it without
01:02:58.020
becoming them you simply it's simple but it's not easy the president of the united states is going
01:03:04.320
to have to fulfill jefferson's prophecies about the courts and do something we haven't seen done
01:03:09.640
since lincoln issued the emancipation proclamation he is going to have to just ignore their orders
01:03:15.520
and carry out with the people elected him to do and then if the other side wants to have an
01:03:20.920
impeachment of trump they want to have elections trump could take your take your case to the people
01:03:25.640
and you say listen i get to interpret the constitution too the courts get to the legislature
01:03:31.780
does you the people are sovereign you are the final interpretation of what the constitution means
01:03:37.800
if you like my interpretation where i think i'm acting on the power you granted me government by the
01:03:43.180
consent of the governed to carry out your ideology and your wish list vote for my people if you disagree
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01:03:59.700
that vote for them and hand it over to the people that's what has to be done here and what are the
01:04:05.680
odds that's going to happen if he doesn't do it glenn i'll go back and re-rack all the conversations
01:04:11.740
you and i had about firing fauci in mid to late 20 and what that would do to his administration if
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they didn't do that and get off of this scandemic and re-rack them it's the same game all right just
01:04:23.340
when you want to put down a populist uprising get unelected public officials to do it because
01:04:29.540
they're not accountable to the people yes so use use the unelected intelligence community for a
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russia collusion hoax use unelected public health sector bureaucrats for a scandemic and now use
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unelected judges all right they will still borne this presidency if he does not do this they won't
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stop until they're stopped we live in a really scary time really scary time it should not come to this
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let me i want to make sure your audience understands i'm not happy to be advocating
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this this is not i know this is supposed to work but there's a reason john adams said this constitution
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is only for a moral and religious people yes these are people that are not moral nor religious they
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are law unto themselves and so therefore it will take extraordinary steps that get us all
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uncomfortable in order to stop them otherwise they're going to end our way of life for good
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steve thank you so much steve days he follows this program on the blaze tv network um thank you so much
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god bless you we'll be listening today you know if you look at some of these judges i pointed this
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out last night let me just give you first of all the dc district court judge james bozberg
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picked by obama he was the guy on the fisa court that approved four applications that were sent to the
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fisa court under false pretenses to make sure that he wiretapped uh donald trump okay then when he found
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out that kevin clinesmith the fbi attorney had changed the facts he didn't punish him he gave
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him a suspended sentence and they did nothing to change the fisa courts okay so that's that guy
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then you have anna reyes she's another dc district court judge appointed by joe biden she's the one who
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tried to stop the transgender troops in the military to band them banning that she volunteered her legal
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services in 2020 for the biden campaign she has donated over 38 000 to democrats maxed out
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contributions to biden in 2020 she has been associated with all kinds of activist groups
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pro-abortion pro-illegal immigration pro-dei you name it then there's a judge theodore chang another
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obama appointee he's the one trying to reverse the trump uh shutdown of usa id long history of donating
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to the democratic party candidate and causes back in 27 he was the first or twice sorry 2017 he was
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the first judge to block trump's travel ban on the muslim majority countries he also was the one who
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issued the injunction against the trump administration's fda rule that made the abortion
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drugs uh you had to pick them up in person couldn't be received by mail and then there's my favorite judge
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that's involved in this amir ali born and raised in canada by egyptian parents he just became a u.s
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citizen in 2019 he's now on the federal bench wow and they say immigrants can't make it here
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let me talk to you a little bit about these uh tariffs here because if you're the average person
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you are concerned about your grocery bill your car whether this could spiral into something as bad as
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the great depression you know smooth holly that's what happened uh we had two uh senators i think
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they were both from utah that uh did smooth holly that those were their names they put together this
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act on tariffs uh then europe spiraled and said oh right oh yeah america well we're doing this and
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then all hell broke loose and it was really really bad so could that happen okay let me explain first
01:09:46.760
of all what's happening the tariffs 10 on all imports gas is an oil is not included so you start
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to see rising gas prices at the gas pumps you might want to ask yourself why because uh that's not
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included in any of these tariffs 54 on chinese goods that's going to hit them hard their taxes on
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stuff that we buy from other companies and countries and the companies from those other countries are going
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to pass that on to you that cost so expect your your grocery bill to maybe be up by five percent
01:10:19.740
that's if you're spending 150 a week that's 157 now that's not good why because we import 60 percent
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of our fruit 40 percent of our vegetables there's no reason for that 20 percent of our beef there's
01:10:34.260
absolutely no reason for that a new car that is going to might cost you a thousand to two thousand
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dollars more if you're driving a regular american car or i mean made a foreign car uh repairs are
01:10:47.140
going to go up five to ten percent because 40 percent of our auto parts are imported a lot of this stuff
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is going to go into a supply chain problem uh used cars here's good news i think uh used cars could rise
01:11:01.080
five percent in value that means your fifteen thousand dollar civic might hit fifteen you know seven fifty
01:11:08.080
goes up a little bit uh you're going to feel this at the store higher prices on food and clothes and
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electronics and it's a punch in the gut let's be let's not be the new york times and say there is no
01:11:20.440
problem egg prices no they're absolutely down you just don't understand you're going to feel this one
01:11:26.740
you're going to feel it okay so why is it happening why is he doing this well we have kept our tariffs low
01:11:34.840
traditionally uh we average 2.6 percent others like india charge 17 percent brazil 13 percent eu is
01:11:43.560
at 5.4 percent that's all according to the world bank these are not the trump numbers these are world
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bank numbers okay uh and it's a little imbalanced i mean you know you're charging me five and a half
01:11:54.880
and i'm charging you 2.6 why would i do that so we've been played what he's trying to do is level
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the playing field make american goods competitive and bring jobs back here to america so we're not
01:12:08.080
just buying everything from around the world we're also selling to the rest of the world it has to be
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that way the white house says it's about protecting our economy uh and not just playing tough and i believe
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that he he is looking to go back to the 1800s where we had high tariffs and it helped us grow four
01:12:27.440
percent a year and we built industries from scratch okay that's before we had the income tax and that's
01:12:35.160
one of the problems here you want to do that fine but you can't have the income tax you know and by the
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way congress you make me sick you're you're leaving for three weeks and you don't have uh you don't have
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the it just not even passing you know they keep calling it a tax cut you're not even passing
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the bill that will keep the taxes as low as they are now it's not a tax cut taxes are going to go
01:13:00.060
up next month unless they do or next year unless they do something about it and so they're calling
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it a tax cut it's not a tax cut and we actually need a tax cut but are you going to do anything
01:13:13.400
so the president needs a lot of things his hope is to boost manufacturing and farming and and jobs
01:13:20.940
uh but it could backfire i just i want to shoot straight with you i support the president i'm
01:13:27.180
giving him the benefit of the doubt but i want you to know it could backfire um the s&p dropped what
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almost three percent uh the dow is down today full-blown trade war you know cut 10 off of the s&p 500
01:13:42.120
that matters to you this according to the federal reserve that matters to you because it's going to hit
01:13:46.440
your 401k um and smooth holly 1930 this tank global trade 66 percent that's what really deepened the
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great depression so let me just show you some things that you should watch for that will say
01:14:01.480
oh this is not good unemployment rising above 4.5 it's now 4.1 now that's according to the bureau of
01:14:08.420
labor statistics inflation going past four percent from 2.4 that won't be good for the economy
01:14:17.040
what's really going to be bad is if china and the eu retaliate if they target our 150 billion dollars
01:14:25.620
in exports like soybeans farmers could lose 10 billion dollars that means fewer jobs less money
01:14:30.840
in your pocket higher grocery bill everything okay farmers and ranchers might see a silver lining
01:14:37.580
however because tariffs make imported food pricier so demand for our crops and our meat could rise the
01:14:45.920
demand by about five to seven percent that would add eight billion dollars to the farmers in the first
01:14:51.880
year according to the farm bureau but scaling everything up is going to take time one to two
01:14:57.320
years for crops two to three years for cattle three to five for new processing plants according to
01:15:02.600
purdue university and if it works the u.s food output would be really good it'd be 10 percent in
01:15:09.680
four years that would create another half million jobs 16 billion dollars more for the farmers and no
01:15:15.900
subsidies on that that's just actual they're working they're making more money that's hope for the rural
01:15:20.780
communities more stable incomes more local spending and more independence because we're not depending on
01:15:26.820
everybody else to send us their food tax reform and regulation keys to making this work you know if
01:15:35.560
i were the president today because it's the cherry trees are in bloom up in washington dc i would be in
01:15:40.880
front of those cherry trees with an axe and say the only time that a president had an axe and a cherry
01:15:47.500
tree was when he was going to cut it down something that didn't happen but nobody knows because our
01:15:51.740
education system is so screwed up but i'm a president i'm not going to chop down the cherry
01:15:57.380
tree i am going to chop regulation in half and it begins today that's the kind of stuff that spurs
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spurs people on to start their own business to do things when you know it's not taxes that stop most
01:16:14.020
people from doing things it's regulation i just can't get it done because the government's in my way
01:16:19.040
every step of the way and if we don't cut taxes and we don't cut regulations then you're just going
01:16:24.660
to be stuck with a higher cost so here's the best case scenario three to five years u.s production
01:16:31.380
ramps up more food more cars more goods made here jobs grow maybe a million new ones if regulations ease
01:16:38.240
your grocery bill stabilizes as imports drop wages rise currently growing at 3.5 but that's barely above
01:16:45.600
inflation the trade deficit shrinks making our economy stronger less reliant on foreign goods
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that is so important it's not the 1800s but global supply chains are too complex right now but targeted
01:16:59.640
tariffs paired with smart policy could echo that growth like we were forced to do better trade deals
01:17:05.940
with japan in the 1980s now here's the thing that you have to ask yourself am i for this or against
01:17:15.360
this am i willing to take the bet that president trump who told us he was going to do tariffs is
01:17:21.380
right on this we've tried it the other way for a hundred years and it keeps biting us in the ass
01:17:26.480
everything has to change he's trying to change everything are you willing to do that you're probably
01:17:33.420
going to pay more for the next one to two years it could be rough but the payoff could be great
01:17:43.260
we you know that we've lost 20 of our food processing since 2000
01:17:50.000
20 of our ability to process our own food is gone since 2000 i don't know i think that's a
01:18:01.780
troubling thing you know the fact that 90 of our rare earth minerals all come from china
01:18:09.280
90 of all of our medications come from china or india that's not a good thing i don't want the
01:18:17.280
government building any of that stuff i want private sector to build it but i need the government
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to say okay you want to play ball that way we'll both go to zero tariffs we'll both go to zero tariffs
01:18:29.740
i don't charge you extra you don't charge me extra we're fine but we're not playing this game
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anymore with you we've been screwed and it's been our fault we've accepted it we've been screwed for
01:18:42.200
decades now on this so you want to play that game we'll play that game and we hold more cards than you do so
01:18:49.820
go ahead have at it that's a very dangerous game but should we play it or should we just stay at the
01:18:57.560
status quo i'm more of a gambler on things i i'm not sure i know the the odds of the table and that's
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what i always say risk big win big risk big lose big you just have to know the odds are in your favor
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before you put you know the money down on the table what are the odds that this will work i don't know
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it makes sense to me but it goes against everything i've ever said and ever believed and ever written
01:19:24.440
about tariffs so i don't know and i honestly i've been thinking about last few days am i giving
01:19:30.380
am i am i willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt because it's donald trump i don't think
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so i think i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because he's the guy we have always
01:19:42.980
wanted we've wanted a really hard nose twitchy eye negotiator somebody that just makes everybody at
01:19:50.680
the table go don't don't mess with him he just might do it okay so that's what he is he's the
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best negotiator maybe in the business in the world today he is a great businessman he his gut has been
01:20:03.660
right so many times when i thought his gut was absolutely wrong it turns out oh wow it is like
01:20:09.840
that okay he's made mistakes um but he's also the only guy who i really truly believe that i can point to
01:20:18.620
at that scale that that i can say i know he truly loves the country i know he has taken it up the
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butt with his own business for so long by trying to be president of the united states he has just been
01:20:34.560
screwed over and over and over again with his own business it's not about him getting rich it's not
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about him it is about the country he's the guy i was looking for as a negotiator he's the guy i was
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looking for as a businessman he understands it he clearly understands the odds he's not an attorney
01:20:55.040
he's not a politician he's a businessman i think that's why i'm willing to give him the benefit of
01:21:01.760
the doubt and i do it looking him right in the eye saying i don't necessarily agree on this but
01:21:08.080
you're the expert on this so i think i'm gonna bet on you
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he knows that if this does not work he's done he's done but so does the left and that's why the
01:21:23.020
left is doing everything they can to thwart him to use the the the judges and everything else because
01:21:30.080
this has to all happen quickly and so anything that throws this and slows this down brings us back to
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listen to today's first hour monologue on the podcast brings us back down to the two choices
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we have we are they're gonna break out and do something very different which is what i usually
01:21:50.660
do in my life break out and say you know what it's not really working the way i think it should and i see
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trends and i'm gonna go this way and it's usually high risk but it's paid off for me in the past
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it's also bitten me in the butt a couple of times donald trump is that guy saying this doesn't work
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the system that we have built does not work the principles do work the free market the principles
01:22:21.080
of you know america uh the bill of rights all of those things work but we haven't been doing those
01:22:27.160
things so how do we get us back to those principles because the other choice is let's manage the
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decline why do you think that our our education system is so bad right now it's not just because
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of uh hey let me say let me say this this way what is the worst thing a teacher can say that every
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that's happening because we all wanted in the progressive era all little workers that would do
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exactly what the boss said to do because we have an assembly line just i told you put this in this slot
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move this way do this in this amount of time and that's what we churned out we can't churn that out
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anymore we need kids that can think that's your choice do you want to go back to more of this managed
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decline or do you want to take bold moves and change everything most people are not like me i am
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stew and i are having a fascinating conversation we have to have on the air uh because he's you know
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he's like why are you being so deferential to donald trump on this particular issue and i think
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it's because the decision was made on elect election day he wasn't subtle about about tariffs
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hello america i want to talk to you about the time beyond the tariffs what america must build now
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we're going to do that in just a second first let's just start with this concept america was built on
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hard work independence and fiscal responsibility how many of those things do we have in our
01:29:13.060
government right now everything that you and i enjoy in this country right now is is because it
01:29:18.120
was built slowly on the backs of those who came before us but today reckless government spending
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terrifying global agendas has driven our dollar so far into the ground that it's questionable if it'll
01:29:29.820
even ever be able to recover at this point some things like your retirement savings for instance
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things that i want the president of the united states to uh stand hard on right now if i if i were if i had
01:30:28.320
his ear and i was like okay mr president here's what you do he'd look at me like what the hell
01:30:32.280
glenn you think i'm gonna listen to you but let me give him some advice anyway i want the president
01:30:39.260
to hammer three things first today i would urge him to take an axe to the regulations today in
01:30:47.340
breathtaking ways that's that's number one well i want him to show up actually with an axe and say
01:30:55.500
i am going to cut regulations so we make this country more competitive no need for this government
01:31:02.800
to get into your way of your dreams the states want to do that's fine you know if you're obviously
01:31:10.160
going to pump poison into the you know into the rivers and everything else then we're going to get
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involved in that but no more of this over regulation and i'm cutting them today in breathtaking ways
01:31:20.660
and then i want him to shame the congress you know congress is going out on like a three-week
01:31:26.580
vacation now i don't i mean must be nice guys uh wow insider trading and unlimited vacations it seems
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uh at some point they're going to come back and they're going to make those tax cuts that we got
01:31:39.400
eight years ago permanent that's not what we voted for we didn't vote for that we voted for
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significant tax cuts we want you to reduce the deficit we want you to give us significant tax
01:31:52.100
cuts we want you to um uh get out of our way and donald trump said the last thing we have to do is
01:32:01.160
raise tariffs well he raised tariffs yesterday congress shame on you be bold see the times that
01:32:07.340
we're in we're in bold times do you have any courage to be bold at all okay so he wrote we raised the
01:32:14.600
tariffs and what everybody is saying is great this is going to bring back american manufacturing
01:32:18.240
that instant instinct is right we have to bring jobs back to america we have outsourced way too
01:32:25.360
much we've hollowed out our middle class and all we are now is on a on managed decline that's really
01:32:32.300
what the course is managed decline donald trump is trying to flip that we have made ourselves so
01:32:38.340
vulnerable to foreign supply chains uh you know that at best you know they don't care about us
01:32:45.860
at worst some of these foreign supply chain providers that i mean they want to destroy us
01:32:50.620
so what are we doing so here's the truth if all we have to do is chase the old jobs we're going to
01:32:58.640
end up building the ghost towns of opportunity for tomorrow you just you can't do it because the the
01:33:06.020
the factories with lights on but no people on inside that's that's coming okay this time when the
01:33:14.320
factories come back they're not bringing back the same jobs they're going to be done by robotics
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sensors ai systems and if we don't think bigger and broader and bolder we are going to miss the
01:33:27.360
opportunity to build the nation that doesn't just survive it's the nation that leads we have to stop
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thinking about america's future like it's a rerun of 1954 it's not gm's not coming back the big
01:33:42.060
factories aren't coming back like that and the goal is never to return to the past do you think in 1954
01:33:47.160
they were like oh man if we could just have those big factories you know mill in those cotton no
01:33:53.660
they weren't thinking like 100 years ago why are we the goal is not to return to the past the goal
01:34:02.020
is to build what the world needs tomorrow and make sure we're the ones that are controlling it
01:34:09.180
so when we talk about bringing jobs back what are the jobs we should be looking for what do we build
01:34:15.460
well first of all we build chip foundries okay not one not two dozens of them all over the country
01:34:22.260
dozens of chip factories because every single car every missile every drone every phone every
01:34:28.260
satellite every ai model depends on those chips we must control the chips right now the majority of
01:34:37.360
high-end chips come from taiwan which is a hundred miles off the coast of a very aggressive and unstable
01:34:44.140
china do you think if things get tough we're going to have we're going to have access to those chips
01:34:51.720
and we can't just have taiwan come in and say oh we're going to build one factory here no dozens of those
01:34:58.400
factories redundancy you know having everything coming from taiwan that's not a supply chain that's a hostage
01:35:05.500
situation ready to happen we need to bring the entire chip ecosystem home that means the raw materials the
01:35:14.300
design the fabrication the packaging the protection that's sovereignty that's bringing america into the
01:35:21.960
future not back to 1954 another thing and i wouldn't mind going back to 1954 on this one because we at
01:35:29.240
least got this one right we need to build nuclear power period and not the cranking you know the
01:35:37.460
creaking concrete dinosaurs of the cold war we need to build small modular reactors we have them now ai optimized grid
01:35:46.460
systems next generation thorium designs that are faster that are cheaper that are cleaner that are safer
01:35:54.020
why do we need them because of the data centers these data centers are going to eat up so much of our
01:36:02.700
electricity if you don't build these things now and you want to stay competitive with ai
01:36:07.280
as a nation you're going to be having brownouts because the the data centers are going to need
01:36:13.840
them so if we are ahead in ai but we didn't build enough electricity you're going to be living in
01:36:20.100
brownouts that's not a good idea that's not how we lead if you want to run the data centers the
01:36:26.380
factories the server farms the electric vehicles all without choking our air and all without depending on
01:36:32.720
any foreign oil nuclear is not an option it's the foundation and if we would if we would pursue this
01:36:42.560
new technology it's already here if our government would help by just deregulating not the crazy
01:36:49.780
stuff well actually deregulating the crazy stuff not the protections against the crazy stuff make sure
01:36:56.880
these things are safe but build them then serve server farms i don't want the government building
01:37:02.600
a single server farm not one but i do want the government and this would create a lot of jobs
01:37:08.120
to build data fortresses okay server farms domestic cloud infrastructure let the private sector fill the
01:37:16.880
buildings with the latest and the greatest let them carry all the risk let them oh gee this is something
01:37:21.880
brand new we got to get rid of all that good they carry all of that but but perhaps it is the
01:37:27.100
government's job to build a fortress around those centers to protect it that's where the real money can
01:37:34.700
come in and businesses will say i want because they're protecting it it's safe here the backbone of
01:37:43.440
every single ai model every defense system every modern company it's all going to be on data period
01:37:50.600
and we're hosting far too much of it uh right now on foreign owned systems or in single points of
01:37:58.160
failure not a good idea we need hardened distributed secure computing across the country our future should
01:38:06.320
not be held uh together by luck some band-aids and third-party logins what are we doing so forget about
01:38:13.940
building you know the new gm plant of the future these are the things that we should be focused on
01:38:20.140
we need to build robotics hardware because while ai is the brain robotics is the body and whoever builds
01:38:28.720
the controls uh whoever builds the body controls the labor of the future okay because it's not going to be
01:38:35.480
you working on an assembly line it will be a robot china is pouring billions of dollars into robot manufacturing
01:38:43.920
if they control the means of automated production they control the next industrial revolution have
01:38:50.380
you seen their docs compared to our docs we're not doing anything because of all of our labor unions
01:38:55.320
china doesn't care about the labor unions okay i don't think that's a good thing i don't like china's model
01:39:01.540
but if we don't understand that they will put us out of business if we don't adapt to what is happening
01:39:09.640
we are going to be left in the dust all of this stuff is not worth anything all the pain that you
01:39:16.340
will be feeling at the grocery store and everything else all of the arguing all the fighting that we
01:39:21.560
have done to try to save our country is over in the next five years if we're not understanding what
01:39:28.120
i'm saying to you right now we cannot allow china to lead in uh in ai or automation from agricultural
01:39:39.160
bots to surgical systems it has to be led by us we also need to create new jobs in rare earth processing
01:39:48.760
and strategic minerals refining right here we have to do it even if it costs us more for a while
01:39:55.620
these are the jobs that must be brought to america we must create them finding the mining the
01:40:03.020
refinery of our own rare earth minerals because you can't build a single solar panel you can't
01:40:09.140
build uh an electric motor a wind turbine a guidance system without these materials because
01:40:15.580
you can't build the chips and right now china controls about 90 percent of all of the global
01:40:21.360
refinery we dig the ore here and then we send it to them that's not just bad policy that's national
01:40:28.720
suicide what are you doing we need to mine smarter refine cleaner and stockpile strategically we need
01:40:37.340
to build next generation alloys and materials because very soon ai is going to start discovering
01:40:43.000
new substances that we never would have thought of it's going to look at the periodic tables and it's
01:40:48.040
going to say why are you using steel you want to build a steel plant why take this this this combine
01:40:52.940
it in this way and it's going to make something that's twice as light and three times as strong
01:40:57.620
stronger than carbon fiber heat resistant self-healing all of that stuff is coming
01:41:04.500
these are going to change the way we build planes buildings armor spacecraft maybe even the way we
01:41:11.840
heal the body profound change is here before 2030 we should not be watching any of this from the
01:41:19.560
sidelines the united states of america needs to lead it if we are going to be have another great
01:41:26.040
renaissance and have you know what donald trump says this new golden age we have to be leading this
01:41:33.700
stuff we have to be building biomanufacturing domestic pharmaceutical productions um you know
01:41:41.420
the next war may not be fought with bullets it might just be fought with a virus antibiotics hormones
01:41:48.760
vaccines 90 of our active pharmaceutical ingredients still come from china and india
01:41:55.740
that's madness that's madness that's a chokehold we need redundancy we need it here we need it now
01:42:04.760
we need to build vertical farms regenerative uh agriculture ai powered food networks you you can't
01:42:16.520
eat patriotism i want the farms to survive i want american domestic products here but we have to see
01:42:23.220
what's over the horizon and start building those jobs it would be like if i'm saying you know what
01:42:29.060
farmers we're going to bring back the jobs of the farm of the old days and i send you a horse
01:42:34.260
and a plow to strap you wouldn't want that we must think differently
01:42:40.100
you know in a crisis if all of our our ports are down our shelves are empty in days
01:42:47.060
we need cities to grow their own food farms that rebuild the soil systems that ensure that every
01:42:55.080
american can eat and a quick reminder here uh you know with with uh very few exceptions here uh when i
01:43:03.820
say we need to build i i don't mean the government uh with very few exceptions like defense the private
01:43:11.880
market does all of this what the government can do is reduce our taxes reduce the taxes on builders and
01:43:19.840
entrepreneurs reduce the regulations help us help you
01:43:25.760
i don't care what's happening on the other side of the globe i don't
01:43:34.160
we need to build corridors that let us move our supplies and our our goods across the country
01:43:41.720
without ever having to touch a foreign port and we don't need better roads my gosh how many times
01:43:48.580
we have to put we need more resilient roads do you know some of the concrete some of the things that
01:43:53.720
are being produced now in other countries that we're so far behind on
01:43:57.620
yes maybe we build a steel mill from time to time but not the ones we remember we build automated
01:44:04.820
modular ultra clean micro mills that forge the next generation of steel in smaller batches closer to
01:44:12.280
where it's needed because the future is not about bulk it's about agility it's about speed it's about
01:44:18.240
precision that is the new industrial revolution the question isn't will america bring jobs back the
01:44:25.640
question is will america build what the future depends on if we get stuck in this trying to
01:44:33.220
resurrect the past we're going to be outpaced by nations that are inventing right now they're
01:44:39.260
inventing what's next tariffs are just a tool a lever but they're not vision we need to think like
01:44:46.600
builders again like pioneers like people who understand that the goal is not just to have a job
01:44:52.560
the goal is to have the capacity to survive to compete and to lead let's build what matters
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i want to thank stew for inspiring that yesterday i was on his show and he asked me you know these
01:46:45.420
jobs coming back you've talked about let's not build the next generation of war plane that comes
01:46:51.020
out in 10 years because that's a waste of money and he i've been saying that for a while and he said
01:46:56.160
so what are we what jobs are we bringing back great question hadn't really thought about it
01:47:01.420
until then it is a big concern yeah it is should be i mean am i wrong to think about because i was
01:47:07.620
thinking about this a little bit after we talked yesterday that maybe you know the focus on all of
01:47:13.540
this trade policy because i like nerdy policy stuff and so i like talking about this stuff but at some
01:47:19.000
level whatever this is is going to be dwarfed by whatever thing we're looking at with ai in the next
01:47:25.200
few years right oh yeah i mean the effects of it if we do it right we do it right and your your
01:47:30.720
point on energy i think is so good it not only connects it's one thing china has on us yeah it's
01:47:37.000
but it not only connects with what we need it also totally connects with his mission donald trump
01:47:41.820
meaning meaning his mission his mission he's been talking about energy independence he's been
01:47:45.860
talking about all this and it also connects with the global warming nuts yeah yeah it's true okay
01:47:50.760
it's zero emissions yeah and it's safer the new stuff is so safe yep i mean yeah it's the safest
01:47:58.720
form of energy ever developed even with the old stuff this is not the old stuff and we're gonna
01:48:05.680
need it we need it quite clear we're gonna need it anyway so that's a really good way to look at this
01:48:12.000
and i think uh you know it's a it's also to me one of the things that is it feels a little defense
01:48:17.960
tariffs feel a little defensive to me it feels like you're just you're like well you're doing
01:48:21.820
this to us so we're doing this to you in a way like we're allowing every one of these countries
01:48:26.140
to set american policy right right like why well we should be doing that but he's also saying um
01:48:33.180
because he's changing it because he's going to change the way america is working he's saying it's
01:48:38.460
because we're going to change our tax policies we're going to change the uh our attitude towards just
01:48:44.380
managing decline just making every american a consumer no that's not going to work i mean it is
01:48:51.680
part of a bigger strategy yeah i think i think that's true um but i like going on offense too
01:49:00.220
but i think your approach is really a more of an offensive one we go when we try to solve these
01:49:04.700
problems um without letting other countries kind of like paste their bad policy onto ours right let's
01:49:13.260
just lead right and and it's possible donald trump is the one guy that can actually do what i just
01:49:18.820
said i'd love to hear him give a speech like that here's what we're going to do now these are the jobs
01:49:24.660
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okay question for you glenn on the tariffs there's uh we saw israel for example go to zero percent
01:51:18.100
um yes now again israel has a very complicated relationship with us right now they'll do
01:51:22.320
whatever we want here's i think because of hamas and and the other the ontario governor just said
01:51:27.440
we'll go to zero if trump will go to zero there we go okay great so i see that and i say yeah that
01:51:32.040
would be a good outcome if what the plan is here right is we have these big uh threats so we say
01:51:39.780
are reciprocal tariffs because we don't think the thing these trade deals are fair and our goal is
01:51:45.500
hey you drop all your tariffs we'll drop ours and we have we both have zero and trump has said
01:51:51.700
that type of thing before yeah if that's the goal i am still nervous about these means right because
01:51:58.500
i think there's some harm that could come along with them but like i'm with him on the goal on
01:52:02.020
that completely okay so is that the goal that's path one or is it path two which is to return all
01:52:09.780
these jobs to the united states because if tariffs are zero by definition those tariffs would then not
01:52:16.580
impact jobs moving back to the united states they can might come for other reasons but like it won't
01:52:22.500
be because of tariffs so either tariffs are a good policy to get jobs back here or we want we're using
01:52:29.140
tariffs as a threat to get to no tariffs but that won't help us get jobs back here which one of those is
01:52:35.180
the goal let me restate your question and see if you agree with this okay it's like me saying
01:52:43.960
does donald trump want the rare earth minerals and the air base state or space from greenland
01:52:57.800
right okay i mean i think that which one is his goal i think it's greenland yeah right no i mean
01:53:06.200
yeah he wants a 51st state and he wants it so does he want greenland to be the 51st state or does he
01:53:11.560
want the air the you know would he just say would if greenland said hey we don't want to be your 51st
01:53:17.320
state but here's the here's our rare earth minerals you will sell it directly to you and uh you can put
01:53:22.840
any base you want up here which one does he want would it be over with greenland would he be happy with
01:53:29.560
one or the other um yeah i guess at least partially happy right i mean but one but but in that case the
01:53:39.960
they align if we get the 51st state we get the rare earth minerals in these they they don't align
01:53:45.800
that the outcome from these two policies is the opposite they are the one is one if he hates the
01:53:53.640
free trade stuff one of these if canada goes to zero and we go to zero it's more of the free trade
01:53:58.680
stuff right it doesn't help jobs come back here in theory in this world which i don't necessarily
01:54:04.520
agree with but in this world if we go to zero percent but more jobs go overseas i think in this
01:54:09.880
case it's a win either way it's a win they disagree with each other no no no no you're not going to get
01:54:17.480
the same outcome right you're going to get one or the other but both of them are win you're not used to
01:54:22.440
this i think none of us are because republicans don't think this way okay maybe we're always like
01:54:27.320
we're a lose-lose and the and the democrats are always like hey if you do that we win but if you take
01:54:33.880
that road which we really don't want we win you know what i mean so i'm not sure that you can i
01:54:44.520
let me tell you a story i heard about him okay uh and i haven't checked this with him yet so take
01:54:50.280
it with a grain of salt i heard it from somebody who it's a legend who was in the room okay well
01:54:55.240
that's even more than that so uh donald trump owned the um new york plaza okay and uh that's a big
01:55:06.680
old very expensive hotel okay i mean just to own and to take care of
01:55:12.920
it's very expensive it's like a whole city block it's enormous i would not want that on my balance
01:55:19.160
sheet you know because it's just something's wait i got to repair something what is that going to
01:55:24.280
cost anyway that's the way i think um so he was going to sell it and his team knew that they were
01:55:30.840
going to sell this hotel and uh he had the japanese come in and they had all been prepared to sell that
01:55:38.520
hotel okay and everybody meets with donald trump before and they say okay we're selling the plaza
01:55:46.280
don't let them leave until they agree to buy the plaza hotel donald trump comes in he sits down in
01:55:52.760
the room and uh one of his team starts talking about the plaza and he listens to him for maybe 10
01:55:58.440
minutes and uh he says you know what let me just excuse me just to his own person excuse me just a
01:56:05.080
second forget about the plaza i'm developing this new property right off the river just about six
01:56:13.480
blocks from here 10 blocks from here it's enormous we haven't even broken ground on it yet um and i'm
01:56:20.680
looking for an investment and he actually sold them that and when they walked out trump's team was like
01:56:29.960
what what did we just what happened here we were right we lost the we didn't sell the plaza we didn't
01:56:34.760
sell the plaza right he said i got into it i wanted to sell them the plaza but the minute i'm sitting
01:56:40.840
there listening to them and looking at them and listening watching them listen to you i realized
01:56:45.480
they're never going to buy the plaza so i said okay here's another deal i can offer them and he said
01:56:53.160
i just changed the plan i don't know if you can ever because you could say wait a minute wait a minute
01:56:59.080
wait a minute our goal was to get the plaza no his goal was to win his goal was to get the money to
01:57:08.280
further his industry okay his plans yeah and i'm not sure if you can ever understand when it's when
01:57:17.640
we're in negotiation i don't know if you can ever this count him you know and go i know what he's
01:57:24.360
thinking because i don't think you do know what he's thinking and i think you're right that's that's
01:57:27.800
my question is i don't know what he's thinking here um i i mean i i do worry that we get a little
01:57:32.600
bit into uh i mean we should know at some level what our what our president is thinking i i think
01:57:37.320
that's what's not an unreasonable request here's what his staff would tell you not his presidential
01:57:42.040
staff his staff on the real estate development and everything else uh i don't know what he's
01:57:48.680
thinking but i know it'll be good because they know his yes they know his goal is to further the
01:57:56.920
trump corporation you know make it bigger better yeah i agree and i think that can be said for the
01:58:02.680
first president since maybe ronald reagan i think i can say i don't think this guy has an ulterior motive
01:58:08.680
on anything he may have ideas that i don't agree with sure but he loves the country and wants he's
01:58:15.240
just trying to do what's right for the country and i don't think that's that debate here at all for
01:58:20.040
me at least i mean i think obviously the left thinks he's correct he's fascist super correct but i
01:58:25.640
don't think i've been able to say that about any president so i think i would feel like i would be
01:58:29.960
on on his real estate team if i was sitting in the room and i'd be like what the hell we were just
01:58:35.480
we're not going back to the plaza yeah but i i mean as a person who's not on his real estate team i
01:58:40.520
think it's and just a citizen of the country i think it's okay to ask questions about this of course
01:58:45.240
it is of course it is i'm just saying and his real estate team would have gone i don't know what
01:58:51.000
he's doing but he's doing something basically yeah let him shut up shut up yeah you know what
01:58:57.320
i mean and that's what and i've been in the room with you when you've done stuff like that where
01:59:00.920
you're just like i don't know where he's going with this but okay let's see what happens i can't
01:59:05.000
wait to see how all this plays out my my only issue is i think in a lot of these a lot of this i understand
01:59:11.000
right like where usually he is looking for a win-win situation but the question is i don't even know
01:59:16.200
what he considers the win like i think america coming uh back i think in what way i think i think
01:59:25.640
if we had total free uh tariff free world real true free trade be a huge win so for the whole world
01:59:34.040
and us but would that would mean fewer manufacturing jobs in the united states yeah and he would consider
01:59:40.040
that a win i think because he also understands i mean look what he's doing with high tech look what
01:59:45.000
he's doing with ai sure he's hanging out with elon musk do you think elon musk they're sitting there
01:59:49.960
talking on the golf course yeah it's an odd couple you think well they're because he doesn't play golf
01:59:54.840
so elon has nothing to do but drive the cart and talk and think okay right um and you know he's not
02:00:02.560
saying you know what i can't wait till we rebuild those steel factories in pittsburgh trump's not a dummy
02:00:08.280
he knows those kinds of jobs are not coming back he just needs america to to uh uh be prosperous
02:00:18.200
free because if we then dominate on uh chips and everything else that's why he's going after greenland
02:00:27.360
um if we dominate on those things a free market is great for the united states if not fine bring the jobs
02:00:37.540
back i personally think he's a little of both i personally think he is bring some of the jobs back
02:00:45.460
we have to be able to build our own ships we have to be able to build our own chips we have to be able
02:00:51.820
to build and make our own medicine you know what i mean so there are some manufacturing jobs that i
02:00:57.580
think he would take that keep the tariff high to make those jobs come back because we have to be
02:01:03.000
self-sufficient on some things and usually the approach on that is is targeted tariffs right yes
02:01:07.580
um that's not what what we've had here no but nobody started to negotiate yet right so maybe that's
02:01:12.700
what he's leading i don't know again i'm these are open questions for me and i know you're trying to
02:01:16.900
translate as much as i am you know we we had this conversation earlier um because i got off and he
02:01:23.040
was like i've never seen you give stew said this to me i've never seen you give so much deference
02:01:28.340
to a president yeah because i mean you know again you're someone who has been i mean you're i mean
02:01:35.940
i hate to say this too because it's too complimentary but it's like you're a thought leader
02:01:39.200
on as part of the conservative movement and have been for 20 years that's just a true it's just a
02:01:45.240
true statement i know the world i'm not interrupting him because it hurts him to say that it does i hate
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it and i don't think it's good for the country to be clear but like people come to you to see how
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you approach these situations and you get to get they listen to this show to get your analysis on
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what the president is doing as for one thing and your analysis at one point today seemed to be
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basically like my entire life i've thought that this was a bad idea but donald trump's doing it so
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i'm going to let him do it and i'm just going to give him the benefit of the doubt well that's i mean
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that's a way that's a kindergarten simple simplification yeah i get your point very very
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very bluntly it's simple intentionally it's you so i am trying to you've kind of taken all that
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good glow away yes exactly i have to it's part of my job um but you know i that being said people
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come to you to know and and when you're saying hey i'm giving trump deference here i'm giving him
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the benefit of the doubt i mean are you just doing it blindly yeah i'm doing it because he is he's one of
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the best businessmen and negotiators on the planet if not the best sure okay yeah very good he has
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proven to me over and over and over again that uh his gut is really very good doesn't make it
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infallible it just means it's very very good um he is also offering something that is very big and bold
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not what i would offer not that is the the conservative you know a dream come true um but
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he offered it up the american people voted let me say it this way yeah you and i have been together
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for a long time and you and i know when i have an idea on something and it's big you know i'll go
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into a room and and i'll bring everybody in and usually almost everybody advises me don't do that
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right does occasionally it happens okay when i'm in that game changing mode where i'm like you know
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what let's leave fox let's start our own thing let's whatever everybody advises me not to do it
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i was a proponent of one more contract with them yeah i said at the time and i was like yeah let's do
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two more years i know so so but when we're in we have that discussion openly yeah okay but when
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we're done we walk out of the office and somebody says to you stew did you tell him i mean that's
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insane what what do you what do you say your uh context again you're saying this is the this is
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somebody who was outside of that room and you know well this is you know i say this is glenn's
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way of thinking and and and it's important you know like we we have the decision is made it's it's
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the same thing as you're if you're the vice president we've talked about this with the
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vice president before if you disagree with the president of the united states you say it to him
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in private but you're part of the administration it's part of your job to go along with the big
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choices it never helps a company if you have somebody on the outside that won't get on the
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team they'll just be like uh that's not gonna work it's not gonna work you're like you're not
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helping doesn't okay doesn't help that's what i think america needs to understand we had that
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meeting in november he's been saying all of this stuff that's true he's been promising this forever
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forever i cannot say he's hitting us by surprise or no so we all decided now let's be the company
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and the company employees that go okay i'm still not sure but i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt
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because we all decided in that meeting now if it doesn't work that doesn't mean we go he's a
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genius look we're all poor didn't it work out well no it didn't um right we we hold him accountable
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for his decisions and his performance after you let you help get it done yeah you let him go with
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the vision that we all agreed on and signed up for and then hold him accountable when it's done
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it worked or it didn't work i believe there's a chance that it works it's not the option i would
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choose but i think it could work and what i know won't work is what we've already been doing for the
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last you know 100 years this whole thing it all has to dramatically change i know that doesn't work
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and i haven't heard anyone who's in power have a better idea i'm staying with the thing that we all
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at least it shouldn't be because when you're buying or selling a home you're putting pretty much
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