The Glenn Beck Program - The Woke Firings Begin ｜ Guests： James Lindsay & Ben Domenech

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the program. We've got we've got a very good show lined up for you and including a guy who I don't know how he expects to survive in today's world, even for the hour that I have him scheduled for.

00:00:19.120 I mean, this is probably one of the braver people on the planet today. It was going to take on Black Lives Matter and the cult of wokeness. You don't want to miss a minute of today's show.

00:00:49.120 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:04.840 Hello, America. Oh, we've got we've got the latest from Bill de Blasio in New York.

00:01:15.940 We have the latest from Seattle, NBC News and Google and what they're doing to ban voices.

00:01:25.200 We have the most dangerous cult in America, a hot topic today for the show on tonight.

00:01:32.040 But I want to start. No, no, not with the French, not with the frickin French and what the French are doing right now.

00:01:42.780 Because I think that I may I may have an ambulance. I call the ambulance.

00:01:48.280 My head might explode on the news of the French today.

00:01:53.880 I know you haven't heard it yet, but I have. But I I don't want to start there.

00:01:58.700 I want to start with something. There is something that happened yesterday and I failed to mention it.

00:02:04.340 And I think it's very, very important that I start there.

00:02:07.560 Something probably a little controversial, a little controversial.

00:02:11.880 But we do that in one minute.

00:02:15.440 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:04:00.660 I thought, Sarah, you were going to start with the Ilan Omar bet because I have Ilan Omar news.

00:04:10.400 But no, no, no, no, no, no, Sarah.

00:04:18.500 Ilan Omar.

00:04:21.020 Ilan Omar.

00:04:22.520 No, Sarah, stop.

00:04:23.620 Ilan Omar.

00:04:24.140 Stop.

00:04:24.700 I was actually stop.

00:04:26.380 I was actually complimenting you for not doing it because, you know, what I was going to talk about yesterday.

00:04:32.800 And I want to be.

00:04:35.800 I know this is going to look.

00:04:38.480 Ilan Omar, I believe, is a grave threat to our country.

00:04:42.460 But yesterday, her father died.

00:04:45.820 And I didn't say anything about it.

00:04:49.040 And I regretted it all night.

00:04:52.420 Even though we have our differences, I know what it's like to lose a father.

00:04:56.640 And that is really, really hard.

00:04:58.280 And we're still human beings.

00:05:00.420 And I know what an impact it is to lose your father.

00:05:04.340 But as if that wasn't bad enough, she also lost her father-in-law at the same time.

00:05:14.080 And I can't imagine what it's like losing both of them at the same time.

00:05:21.160 And I don't know what to do.

00:05:23.120 I was going to send a bouquet of flowers.

00:05:27.080 And then I thought, do I send two bouquets?

00:05:29.960 Because if I only send one, do I look cheap, you know?

00:05:35.400 And then I thought of what her life is going to be like.

00:05:37.480 She has to attend both funerals.

00:05:41.220 And God only knows, you're under enough stress when your father dies.

00:05:45.220 But then your father-in-law, and what's worse, it's her ex-father-in-law.

00:05:50.000 So she's got to go to the funeral for her ex-father-in-law.

00:05:55.480 And her ex-husband is going to be there.

00:05:59.420 I mean, imagine the tension.

00:06:01.560 And can she go with somebody else?

00:06:03.020 Could she bring, like, her brother, you know, just to be there to comfort her with the ex-father-in-law?

00:06:09.620 Or should that just be her ex-husband that comforts her there at that funeral?

00:06:13.520 I don't know.

00:06:14.300 I don't know.

00:06:15.600 But what a coincidence.

00:06:16.880 And a really horrible, horrible thing to lose both your father and your father-in-law in the same day.

00:06:28.980 And, I mean, I don't know Somali tradition.

00:06:32.640 Do you have two graves?

00:06:34.620 Or do you?

00:06:35.140 Or is it just two headstones?

00:06:38.920 Or...

00:06:39.600 Ilhan Omar.

00:06:41.200 Stop.

00:06:42.320 That was insensitive and absolutely wrong.

00:06:45.560 I can't believe that.

00:06:47.020 I should be banned from all airwaves and really run into the mountain.

00:06:52.600 Oh, I'm already here.

00:06:54.080 So I'm okay.

00:06:55.020 By the way, let me just start with the French president, Emmanuel Macron.

00:07:03.000 Macron announced yesterday, quote,

00:07:08.180 We will be inflexible when it comes to tackling racism, anti-Semitism, and discrimination.

00:07:16.080 And new strong decisions will be made to reinforce the equality of chances.

00:07:20.740 But this noble fight is perverted when it turns into communitarianism and into false rewriting of history.

00:07:30.620 This is unacceptable.

00:07:34.180 I will tell you very clearly tonight, my dear fellow citizens,

00:07:37.800 the republic will not erase any trace or any name from its history.

00:07:43.000 It will not forget any of its deeds or take down any statues.

00:07:47.260 Now, I'd just like to point out,

00:07:52.140 This is France!

00:07:53.800 The world's pansies!

00:07:56.080 They're taking a stand!

00:07:58.240 Good heavens, American men, where have you gone?

00:08:03.220 France is shaming us!

00:08:05.360 France!

00:08:06.500 France!

00:08:08.000 They'll surrender to a squirt gun!

00:08:11.140 They're taking a stand!

00:08:12.740 Meanwhile, in California, they're removing, finally, finally,

00:08:19.200 the statue of Columbus and Queen Isabella from the rotunda of the Capitol.

00:08:25.700 It's only taken them like 138 years.

00:08:28.980 That thing has just been screaming racism for 138 years,

00:08:35.560 and they're just getting around.

00:08:37.700 Well, I want you to know, California, I still don't forgive you.

00:08:41.940 I still don't forgive you.

00:08:43.100 You take down that racist statue from your rotunda.

00:08:46.420 You go ahead and erase what those white people in Spain did.

00:08:55.820 Okay?

00:08:56.860 What those Spaniards, which were very...

00:08:59.700 Very well...

00:09:00.520 You can erase it, but you will never erase my memory of your racist erasing of racism.

00:09:09.660 I'll tell you that right now.

00:09:12.880 Good thing Macron wasn't around here.

00:09:15.940 Because he would...

00:09:17.700 Well, he'd actually...

00:09:19.700 No, he wouldn't be on your side.

00:09:21.740 Gosh darn it.

00:09:24.200 Whoever thought we would look at a French president and go,

00:09:27.040 Well, he's got balls.

00:09:29.700 Stu, welcome to the program.

00:09:33.320 I notice you're unusually quiet.

00:09:36.500 Don't want to get involved in any of this, do you?

00:09:39.980 That sounds like a terrible idea, yes.

00:09:42.760 Yeah.

00:09:43.300 So I'd like to invite you in on this one.

00:09:45.340 PepsiCo has just announced that Aunt Jemima is racist.

00:09:53.040 And they are going to no longer...

00:09:55.840 Well, they're going to make the syrup.

00:09:57.000 They're just going to put it into, I don't know, maybe a bottle shaped like me.

00:10:04.340 And you can pour your syrup out of my head.

00:10:07.520 Maybe.

00:10:08.280 And I would take that.

00:10:09.380 Colonel Sanders, I have been saying to KFC,

00:10:12.480 I am Colonel Sanders.

00:10:14.680 Look at me for the love of Pete.

00:10:16.780 You are.

00:10:17.220 You put a bucket in my hand and a white suit and a little bolo tie,

00:10:22.140 and I am Colonel Sanders.

00:10:24.600 And I love fried chicken.

00:10:27.180 But they won't let me be the spokesperson,

00:10:29.380 so I'm offering my services to PepsiCo

00:10:32.480 that they can make a syrup bottle in my shape.

00:10:38.120 There's a lot of room for syrup.

00:10:41.180 And I know it's like the jumbo family size.

00:10:44.280 It's only available at Costco, for sure.

00:10:47.360 Right.

00:10:48.200 Right.

00:10:48.740 And you can pour the syrup right out of my head.

00:10:50.620 There you go.

00:10:50.980 And that's great.

00:10:52.800 So I'm glad that...

00:10:54.240 Go ahead.

00:10:54.720 Is Pepsi just understanding this?

00:10:57.560 Or like they've had this product for a very long time.

00:11:00.960 It was created in 1889.

00:11:04.260 So I don't know.

00:11:05.280 I would say by today's standards,

00:11:07.040 literally everyone on the planet who was on the planet in 1889

00:11:11.060 was probably racist by today's standards.

00:11:13.120 So any product from those days would be something

00:11:17.180 we'd have to eliminate right away.

00:11:18.840 Maybe we should just start deleting and changing

00:11:20.560 all the names of every product every two or three years.

00:11:23.740 That way we never run into this problem again.

00:11:26.960 Look...

00:11:27.560 Well, I don't think we should name it after anybody.

00:11:29.580 But we shouldn't name anything after anybody

00:11:33.080 or build any statue unless they're BLM activists.

00:11:40.760 You know?

00:11:41.060 Right.

00:11:41.740 And I'm sure the BLM activists would be fine

00:11:45.220 having syrup poured out of their head, you know,

00:11:47.480 and help Pepsi sell products.

00:11:50.040 I'm sure they would be happy with that.

00:11:52.140 Oh, I'm sure they would.

00:11:53.540 I just can't understand the reaction to this.

00:11:55.960 The idea that a product that's been around since 1889

00:11:59.040 needs to go away now because people are protesting

00:12:04.600 someone who was murdered by a police officer?

00:12:08.840 Like, these things don't connect.

00:12:11.100 They just...

00:12:11.860 They're removing a statue.

00:12:14.460 Have you seen the statue of Isabella and Columbus?

00:12:18.040 Yeah.

00:12:18.300 It's enormous.

00:12:20.560 It's enormous.

00:12:22.260 Incredible.

00:12:22.540 You know, I have to tell you,

00:12:23.520 I would love to tell you the story

00:12:25.940 of the Capitol in Washington, D.C.

00:12:29.520 and a story that most people don't know.

00:12:32.800 But I honestly thought about it today.

00:12:34.260 When I read that, I thought about telling that story.

00:12:36.440 I'm like, oh, you want...

00:12:37.860 I'm never going to tell that story.

00:12:39.820 I'm never going to tell that story

00:12:41.780 because it will absolutely move...

00:12:46.380 It will move us into...

00:12:49.380 People will say the Washington, D.C. Capitol

00:12:52.240 needs to be changed.

00:12:54.100 What?

00:12:54.800 Yeah.

00:12:55.140 No, it's true.

00:12:56.020 They're just changing everything.

00:12:58.200 Did you see the situation with Bob Odenkirk

00:13:01.000 and David Cross, the two comedians?

00:13:04.800 I love these guys.

00:13:05.840 Yeah.

00:13:06.180 They hate me, but I love them.

00:13:08.200 Mr. Show with Bob and David was on HBO back in the 90s.

00:13:11.380 The greatest sketch comedy show of all time,

00:13:13.760 in my opinion.

00:13:14.600 Of all time.

00:13:15.040 In the correct opinion.

00:13:16.940 And they brought it back for Netflix

00:13:18.480 for a few episodes.

00:13:19.260 By the way, by the way,

00:13:20.040 Stu will be rounding anybody up

00:13:21.740 and chopping their heads off

00:13:23.480 if you disagree with that.

00:13:25.520 Anything that I say.

00:13:26.220 We have a little different standards

00:13:27.780 than the regular protesters.

00:13:31.760 We're just about movies, entertainment, and comedy.

00:13:34.040 These are the sorts of things

00:13:34.880 that we can implement

00:13:35.600 in our new autonomous zone

00:13:36.720 that we're putting together.

00:13:37.680 Yeah.

00:13:38.120 But so there is a sketch comedy show

00:13:41.520 called Mr. Show with Bob and David.

00:13:42.660 They brought it back on Netflix in 2015

00:13:45.500 for like three or four episodes.

00:13:46.880 It's kind of like a throwback to it.

00:13:49.300 And in one of the sketches,

00:13:52.100 and it's funny how fast these things turn,

00:13:54.460 but in one of the sketches,

00:13:55.540 there is a parody of basically

00:13:58.040 like a libertarian YouTuber.

00:14:00.080 Remember this was a thing for a while

00:14:01.340 where like libertarian YouTubers

00:14:02.740 would go out like by police

00:14:04.240 and they would film themselves

00:14:05.220 and they would kind of be antagonistic

00:14:06.780 and keep saying things like,

00:14:08.520 look, it's my right.

00:14:09.620 You have no right to ask me

00:14:11.280 what my name is

00:14:11.900 and you have no right to ask me

00:14:13.220 to roll my window down

00:14:14.100 and you have no right to take my documents.

00:14:15.460 I'm a free citizen.

00:14:16.760 The state law says,

00:14:17.760 you know, like that whole thing.

00:14:18.680 So they're parodying that phenomenon,

00:14:20.460 which is funny because

00:14:21.360 to parody that phenomenon,

00:14:23.600 you have to make the police officers

00:14:25.480 look really nice and understanding,

00:14:27.740 which is the exact opposite

00:14:29.680 of how they are portrayed today

00:14:32.540 by entertainment.

00:14:34.200 But so they go through this whole sketch

00:14:35.780 and he goes through like a checkpoint,

00:14:39.340 a DUI checkpoint,

00:14:41.220 and he keeps trying to antagonize the cop

00:14:43.120 and the cop's just like,

00:14:43.880 you didn't do anything wrong.

00:14:45.520 Like he's totally playing along

00:14:46.560 and not caring about what

00:14:47.820 all of these like crazy things

00:14:49.680 he's trying to antagonize him into.

00:14:50.980 He wants to get himself filmed

00:14:52.000 being a victim of police brutality

00:14:54.700 and can't get it to happen

00:14:55.800 is essentially the sketch.

00:14:56.940 So he goes through like five or six times.

00:14:58.740 Finally, on the last time,

00:15:00.340 he decides to put on blackface

00:15:01.900 and go through as a black man, right?

00:15:06.160 And as he goes through,

00:15:07.500 then the white cop sees him,

00:15:09.740 comes over, he's like,

00:15:10.680 is this the guy that's been coming through

00:15:11.700 all these times

00:15:12.160 and starts spraying him with pepper spray

00:15:13.860 and drags him out of the car

00:15:14.900 and beats him up on the ground.

00:15:16.740 Now, there's a bunch of points being made

00:15:19.020 and it's also just funny,

00:15:20.060 but one of the very fair points

00:15:22.300 you could make from the sketch

00:15:23.480 is that he's saying,

00:15:24.920 black people get treated worse

00:15:27.620 by cops than white people, right?

00:15:29.880 And white cops are the ones doing it,

00:15:32.360 which is essentially exactly

00:15:34.260 what Black Lives Matter is saying today, right?

00:15:36.560 Like, it's exactly their point.

00:15:38.460 Netflix has announced

00:15:39.420 because David Cross

00:15:40.560 is wearing blackface in the sketch,

00:15:42.220 they're deleting the sketch

00:15:43.160 from the series.

00:15:45.400 Like, wait, he's making the same point.

00:15:48.380 I mean, that's better.

00:15:49.440 Look, those guys are so left.

00:15:52.120 You know, they are,

00:15:53.420 they're always lecturing there

00:15:55.540 and these guys will say,

00:15:57.560 oh, well, they're just canceling that sketch.

00:15:59.300 We apologize for that sketch.

00:16:01.040 We shouldn't have done that sketch.

00:16:02.340 Now, they're pretty pissed off

00:16:03.100 and they'll actually mean it.

00:16:04.680 They're pretty pissed off about it,

00:16:06.660 Bob and David.

00:16:07.260 They're like,

00:16:07.660 we made these decisions intentionally.

00:16:09.880 Like, we did not, you know.

00:16:11.580 Good for you.

00:16:12.080 Like, they stood up for their material,

00:16:13.780 which they should.

00:16:14.580 Again, like,

00:16:15.280 what is the problem with blackface?

00:16:16.940 It's not the paint, right?

00:16:18.480 It's not the makeup color.

00:16:19.660 The problem with blackface

00:16:20.920 is the motivation behind it.

00:16:22.460 I brought up an example,

00:16:23.300 actually, last night

00:16:23.820 on Stew Does America, Glenn,

00:16:24.940 and it was,

00:16:25.440 you were the one

00:16:25.860 that made me think of it.

00:16:26.940 It's because I remember

00:16:27.820 going to your house

00:16:28.880 and watching you

00:16:30.680 burn American flags.

00:16:33.540 And it's like,

00:16:34.240 holy crap.

00:16:35.280 Like, I don't want

00:16:35.880 to burn American flags.

00:16:36.760 That's a terrible thing.

00:16:37.740 That's against America.

00:16:38.780 We don't want that to happen.

00:16:40.040 I want to cancel you

00:16:41.020 for doing that.

00:16:41.940 Well, when you actually,

00:16:42.920 it's not the burning of the flag

00:16:44.240 that's the problem.

00:16:45.080 It's the motivation

00:16:46.140 behind the act.

00:16:47.040 When you look at the motivation

00:16:48.400 behind the act,

00:16:49.320 you would say, Glenn,

00:16:50.460 it was an official

00:16:51.840 retirement ceremony

00:16:53.700 of a flag

00:16:54.680 done with military

00:16:56.100 and police

00:16:56.820 from around your area

00:16:58.320 to,

00:16:59.780 do you remember

00:17:00.320 the ceremony?

00:17:00.860 Do you remember

00:17:01.300 what I'm talking about?

00:17:01.900 Yeah, no,

00:17:02.120 we had the,

00:17:02.480 we had the,

00:17:03.160 we had the Connecticut

00:17:04.140 Police Honor Guard.

00:17:05.720 Yeah.

00:17:06.240 And their job,

00:17:07.500 part of their job

00:17:08.240 is doing ceremonial

00:17:09.740 retirements of flags.

00:17:11.320 And so we looked it up

00:17:12.720 and did exactly

00:17:13.720 what we were supposed to do.

00:17:14.840 This is the days

00:17:15.760 before Facebook

00:17:16.560 and social media.

00:17:17.480 So nobody's ever seen it

00:17:18.820 except the people

00:17:20.360 that were there.

00:17:20.960 And it was a very,

00:17:22.500 I actually have thought

00:17:23.500 about doing it

00:17:24.180 this year

00:17:25.680 at 4th of July

00:17:27.880 and do carry it

00:17:29.100 on Facebook.

00:17:30.300 Yeah.

00:17:30.640 Because I don't think

00:17:31.300 people have seen it.

00:17:32.300 And it's very respectful.

00:17:33.840 It makes you feel

00:17:34.720 a little weird though.

00:17:35.840 I mean,

00:17:36.020 you're seeing a flag burn,

00:17:37.140 but then you realize

00:17:37.860 because you're an adult,

00:17:39.600 you think it through

00:17:40.260 and you say,

00:17:40.600 well,

00:17:40.720 this is actually

00:17:41.560 the appropriate ceremony

00:17:43.020 and how the Honor Guard

00:17:44.040 does it.

00:17:44.720 It's the same thing

00:17:45.380 with this sketch.

00:17:46.540 Blackface,

00:17:47.040 yes,

00:17:47.340 it can be used

00:17:47.740 for 100 million bad reasons

00:17:49.020 and of course

00:17:49.420 you should never do it

00:17:50.000 because you're definitely

00:17:50.420 going to get fired.

00:17:51.340 But the motivation

00:17:52.040 was to parody racism.

00:17:54.100 It was to degrade racism.

00:17:56.460 Doesn't that even count?

00:17:57.520 We're not even adults

00:17:58.340 enough to understand

00:17:59.300 the motivation

00:18:00.060 behind a message.

00:18:01.840 It's pathetic.

00:18:03.300 Is it not?

00:18:05.140 Yeah,

00:18:05.560 it is.

00:18:06.080 It is.

00:18:06.580 We're going to get to

00:18:07.720 a lot of things

00:18:09.180 that are going on today,

00:18:10.080 including we have

00:18:11.280 James Lindsay on with us

00:18:13.460 here in just a little while.

00:18:14.600 If you don't know

00:18:15.000 who he is,

00:18:16.120 he's one of the three

00:18:17.020 scientists that,

00:18:18.300 you know,

00:18:19.680 they did those fake reports

00:18:22.180 and then got them

00:18:23.020 to be peer reviewed

00:18:24.080 and they were all like,

00:18:25.060 you know,

00:18:25.960 they just took Mein Kampf

00:18:28.140 and put white people

00:18:29.320 instead of Jews

00:18:30.240 and it was peer reviewed

00:18:31.520 and it was fine.

00:18:32.980 These guys are real rebels.

00:18:34.720 They're lefties,

00:18:35.920 but not communists,

00:18:39.200 not Marxists.

00:18:41.700 They actually believe

00:18:43.260 in freedom,

00:18:43.800 but he is coming on today.

00:18:46.660 He's going to talk

00:18:48.200 about the cult

00:18:49.300 of wokeness

00:18:51.720 and I have read

00:18:54.160 his work on it

00:18:55.060 and it is pretty powerful.

00:18:56.800 I don't know

00:18:57.060 how he's expecting

00:18:57.820 to, you know,

00:18:59.360 be able to even

00:19:00.260 walk around.

00:19:01.420 They'll have him up

00:19:02.160 at the guillotine,

00:19:03.300 you know,

00:19:03.620 15 minutes into

00:19:04.600 his talk with me today,

00:19:06.300 but he's coming up

00:19:08.020 in just a little while.

00:19:08.680 You don't want to miss

00:19:09.340 a second of this show today.

00:19:11.100 Miss a second,

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00:19:13.760 So stand by first.

00:19:15.280 Let me tell you

00:19:15.760 about rough greens,

00:19:16.720 uh, rough greens.

00:19:17.960 Where's my dog?

00:19:18.640 He's gone.

00:19:19.560 I was already,

00:19:20.320 I shouldn't have taught

00:19:21.020 my dog how to open the door.

00:19:22.380 Um, but, uh, uh,

00:19:24.200 Uno is a member

00:19:25.600 of the family

00:19:26.140 and he's with me

00:19:27.020 all the time.

00:19:28.480 Uh, he is,

00:19:29.940 he's always waiting

00:19:30.720 outside of my bedroom door

00:19:32.120 or, or the bathroom door

00:19:34.240 someplace.

00:19:34.960 He always is just

00:19:36.100 by my side

00:19:36.680 and I love him

00:19:37.320 and I want the best

00:19:39.180 for him.

00:19:40.420 We had a hard time.

00:19:41.620 He did not like eating.

00:19:43.340 Um, and it's not like

00:19:44.820 he didn't like food

00:19:45.640 because we would try

00:19:46.520 every kind of food

00:19:47.680 and he wouldn't eat.

00:19:48.860 Well, then we started

00:19:49.740 using an additive

00:19:50.620 called rough greens

00:19:51.760 and you put it on top

00:19:52.640 of the dog food

00:19:53.360 and it's like dog crack.

00:19:54.800 They absolutely love it.

00:19:56.480 But the great thing is

00:19:57.900 unlike crack,

00:19:59.840 it's good for your dog

00:20:01.220 and it has all the vitamins,

00:20:03.040 minerals, antioxidants,

00:20:04.460 probiotics, omega oils,

00:20:05.980 all the stuff

00:20:06.820 that is in your food.

00:20:08.360 You know, the probiotics,

00:20:09.820 you can't put that

00:20:11.120 in dog food

00:20:11.700 because dog food

00:20:12.480 all has to be,

00:20:13.280 you know, dead food,

00:20:14.440 nothing alive in it.

00:20:15.940 Well, probiotics

00:20:17.120 are important.

00:20:17.880 So this comes

00:20:18.400 in a vacuum sealed pouch

00:20:19.860 and, um,

00:20:20.980 and you put it

00:20:21.960 on your dog food

00:20:22.700 and I'm telling you

00:20:24.120 it's changed Uno

00:20:25.320 for the better.

00:20:26.560 He is a happier

00:20:27.540 and healthier dog.

00:20:29.220 Give your dog

00:20:29.740 rough greens.

00:20:30.860 Give him the 14 day

00:20:31.880 jumpstart bag

00:20:32.680 to see the difference

00:20:33.700 in your dog for $14.95.

00:20:35.580 Go to ruffgreens.com

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00:20:39.140 That's roughgreens.com

00:20:41.040 or call 833-GLEN33.

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00:20:45.200 or roughgreens.com

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00:20:48.500 Go there today.

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00:24:01.440 and surprisingly,

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00:24:15.440 Did you hear the story

00:24:16.800 of the guy

00:24:17.520 in California

00:24:18.400 that was just

00:24:19.700 driving down the street

00:24:20.640 and he was in the,

00:24:21.880 you know,

00:24:22.240 California gas

00:24:23.080 and electric truck

00:24:23.780 or whatever the hell it is.

00:24:24.620 and he has his hand out

00:24:27.700 and he's cracking

00:24:28.960 his knuckles

00:24:29.580 and as he's cracking

00:24:30.920 his first knuckle,

00:24:32.320 he kind of makes the,

00:24:33.520 he kind of makes

00:24:34.640 the peace sign

00:24:35.380 or the okay sign,

00:24:36.880 which we all know

00:24:37.560 is racist,

00:24:38.360 which is not racist,

00:24:40.020 which was,

00:24:41.320 it was,

00:24:41.960 it was started

00:24:42.800 as a meme

00:24:43.820 and it was started by,

00:24:45.260 wasn't it started

00:24:45.720 by like 4chan people

00:24:46.960 that were making fun

00:24:48.080 and saying,

00:24:48.480 let's try to make

00:24:49.440 everybody believe.

00:24:50.620 Yep.

00:24:50.740 So it's not even racist.

00:24:51.720 It was a,

00:24:52.700 it was a joke.

00:24:53.840 He was trying to show

00:24:54.900 what sheep

00:24:55.740 Americans are,

00:24:56.820 Americans are.

00:24:57.500 Yeah.

00:24:58.100 So he's cracking

00:24:59.500 his knuckles.

00:25:00.220 Well,

00:25:00.360 somebody takes a picture

00:25:01.280 of it and said,

00:25:02.140 oh my gosh,

00:25:02.680 look at this racist

00:25:03.620 making,

00:25:04.560 making this racist

00:25:06.020 hand sign.

00:25:08.100 Why would you,

00:25:09.240 I mean,

00:25:10.220 this,

00:25:10.720 anyway,

00:25:11.480 he loses his job.

00:25:15.140 He then,

00:25:16.280 uh,

00:25:17.320 has the person,

00:25:18.540 uh,

00:25:18.940 who,

00:25:19.660 who wrote this

00:25:20.980 and I didn't mean

00:25:21.900 for him to lose his job.

00:25:23.200 I mean,

00:25:23.620 I,

00:25:23.980 I may have,

00:25:25.100 I may have been wrong

00:25:26.140 about that.

00:25:27.200 And he says,

00:25:29.120 you were wrong about it.

00:25:30.360 I was cracking my knuckles.

00:25:31.920 Now he's a Hispanic guy.

00:25:34.560 So the person that filed the,

00:25:37.220 not even the complaint,

00:25:38.480 just social media,

00:25:40.460 Hey,

00:25:40.680 what's going on?

00:25:42.380 That person has said,

00:25:43.820 I know I was wrong.

00:25:45.480 I was wrong.

00:25:46.300 It wasn't a racist thing.

00:25:47.440 The gas company will not hire him back.

00:25:52.460 He wants his job back.

00:25:54.540 I don't know why he wants his job back.

00:25:57.000 We called to see if he ever would get his job back and they doubled down.

00:26:01.920 The first national interview with him is coming up on tomorrow's program.

00:26:06.560 You don't want to miss it.

00:26:07.620 Uh,

00:26:07.940 it is,

00:26:08.580 it's an unbelievable story,

00:26:10.300 but this is happening everywhere.

00:26:13.600 Um,

00:26:14.360 uh,

00:26:14.560 Reagan S Q day,

00:26:15.680 who is a turning point USA ambassador,

00:26:18.420 also a,

00:26:20.060 uh,

00:26:20.360 Christian,

00:26:21.540 uh,

00:26:22.100 she made a video and she was talking about why BLM is,

00:26:29.920 is not a Christian movement.

00:26:31.620 This is not the way Christ would want us to do things.

00:26:35.460 Well,

00:26:36.100 my gosh,

00:26:36.720 somebody in her office saw how offensive that was.

00:26:39.360 And within 15 minutes,

00:26:40.920 she lost her job.

00:26:43.360 We have Reagan on the phone with us.

00:26:46.260 Hello,

00:26:46.480 Reagan.

00:26:46.800 How are you?

00:26:47.740 Hi,

00:26:48.260 I'm great.

00:26:48.720 How are you?

00:26:50.220 Good.

00:26:50.720 So Reagan,

00:26:51.740 were you named after Ronald Reagan?

00:26:54.360 You know,

00:26:55.000 it's funny.

00:26:55.840 My nickname growing up was Reaganomics.

00:26:58.300 My mom called me that and I still answer to it to this day.

00:27:01.200 I don't know what she named me after,

00:27:03.460 but my nickname definitely,

00:27:04.780 um,

00:27:05.480 is attributed to him.

00:27:07.540 Okay.

00:27:08.260 So,

00:27:08.760 uh,

00:27:09.040 Reagan,

00:27:09.420 what did you say that was so horrible?

00:27:12.040 And,

00:27:12.560 and,

00:27:13.000 uh,

00:27:13.400 Sarah,

00:27:13.880 please be ready on the edit button.

00:27:16.080 Uh,

00:27:16.360 go ahead.

00:27:18.060 Well,

00:27:18.580 you know,

00:27:18.900 I was really,

00:27:19.880 Mr.

00:27:20.260 Beck,

00:27:20.400 I was addressing the evangelical church,

00:27:22.800 um,

00:27:23.180 seeing the way Christian pastors and leaders have been,

00:27:27.340 um,

00:27:28.000 just twisting the,

00:27:29.460 the true gospel of the Bible and,

00:27:31.260 and making this social gospel narrative,

00:27:33.220 um,

00:27:34.560 was really upsetting and sad to me because I feel like it's very misleading to believers.

00:27:38.980 And so I posted a video discussing,

00:27:41.100 um,

00:27:42.020 the black lives matter organization,

00:27:43.500 what it stands for and why Christians should be focusing on the gospel,

00:27:48.300 which ultimately reconciles hearts and,

00:27:51.220 and fixes the sin problem of racism,

00:27:53.160 um,

00:27:53.840 rather than that,

00:27:55.420 rather than calling for action and,

00:27:57.180 and,

00:27:57.480 um,

00:27:58.340 you know,

00:27:59.260 focusing on racial reconciliation and,

00:28:01.700 and things that are,

00:28:02.600 are not of Christ.

00:28:04.740 Well,

00:28:05.300 there's no reconciliation with,

00:28:07.180 with BLM and this movement.

00:28:08.760 There is no racial recognition.

00:28:10.520 There's there is beg for forgiveness,

00:28:13.000 but you can't really even know what you're sorry for because you don't know what you're guilty for because you're white.

00:28:19.800 Um,

00:28:20.240 and you have to go through them for forgiveness.

00:28:22.680 And there is no forgiveness.

00:28:23.940 As I just pointed out,

00:28:25.000 the problem with that is the only one that can truly grant forgiveness is God.

00:28:31.580 Um,

00:28:31.940 you're coming in because you're white with original sin.

00:28:35.340 Well,

00:28:36.000 that goes against,

00:28:37.360 we,

00:28:37.700 we don't hold people responsible for what their fathers or their great grandfathers did at any time.

00:28:44.260 God doesn't hold people responsible.

00:28:45.980 He holds you as an individual and never a collective.

00:28:48.880 This social justice garbage that is being shoveled by many of our churches is just that garbage and an affront to God.

00:28:59.280 When man declares,

00:29:00.960 there's an original sin that you have to pay for because of what somebody else did 150 years ago.

00:29:07.980 And there is no real forgiveness for you because you're white or black or yellow or orange.

00:29:13.400 It doesn't matter.

00:29:15.160 That's an affront to God.

00:29:16.500 And I don't know why churches aren't getting this.

00:29:20.140 Yeah,

00:29:20.780 I definitely agree.

00:29:22.100 And I think,

00:29:22.620 I think too,

00:29:23.580 Mr.

00:29:23.820 Beck,

00:29:24.140 um,

00:29:24.460 there has been a Trojan horse of social justice within the church for a very long time.

00:29:28.760 And I think,

00:29:29.680 um,

00:29:29.980 you know,

00:29:30.200 after the George Floyd incident,

00:29:31.740 things have come to their peak.

00:29:33.220 And so the church is kind of in a place where if they don't address this,

00:29:36.820 um,

00:29:37.240 it would be an injustice to congregants.

00:29:39.300 It would appear.

00:29:40.540 Um,

00:29:40.860 but it's a shame really that the church has drifted so far from teaching theology that they have to,

00:29:45.460 you know,

00:29:45.980 as scripture says,

00:29:46.980 tickle the ears of those willing to listen.

00:29:49.500 And they have to call for worldly virtuousness over spiritual righteousness.

00:29:53.680 And it's just a dangerous line to walk.

00:29:56.200 Um,

00:29:56.780 I think you have a congregation of people who come to church on Sunday to hear the gospel and walk away in worship.

00:30:02.680 But many church leaders are sharing a motivational speech with scripture sprinkled in so that congregants walk away with a worldly call to action,

00:30:11.200 which ultimately does not save.

00:30:13.440 So you,

00:30:16.580 the reaction,

00:30:17.420 uh,

00:30:18.260 when you posted this,

00:30:19.440 you,

00:30:19.680 you didn't think you'd get any blowback or did you?

00:30:22.740 Um,

00:30:23.140 I don't think I expected to get as much as I got.

00:30:27.460 Um,

00:30:27.900 most of my,

00:30:29.220 my following on social media is Christian conservatives who,

00:30:32.760 who very much,

00:30:33.560 you know,

00:30:34.680 hold the same beliefs I do.

00:30:36.400 Um,

00:30:36.800 so I really was speaking to them.

00:30:38.900 I did not expect it.

00:30:40.320 Um,

00:30:40.560 and you know,

00:30:40.960 obviously social media reaches everyone,

00:30:42.800 but I didn't expect it to blow up the way that it did.

00:30:45.640 And so,

00:30:46.000 um,

00:30:46.380 I mean,

00:30:46.620 I got backlash,

00:30:47.840 um,

00:30:48.480 excuse me,

00:30:49.220 I got backlash probably for a solid 24 to 48 hours.

00:30:52.540 And it just,

00:30:53.320 it was a lot,

00:30:54.740 but,

00:30:55.180 um,

00:30:55.540 I think it's something people needed to hear.

00:30:57.100 So I,

00:30:57.680 I haven't taken it down.

00:30:59.560 And you lost your job because somebody in your office,

00:31:04.040 uh,

00:31:04.960 saw this post and said,

00:31:06.620 you are a racist and need to be terminated.

00:31:10.260 And with 50 within 15 minutes,

00:31:12.780 I'm told that you were in the office of the boss and they were talking about

00:31:16.780 you and your job.

00:31:19.360 True.

00:31:20.400 Well,

00:31:21.000 so it was actually an ex employee.

00:31:22.720 So someone that I actually used to work with and,

00:31:25.340 um,

00:31:25.680 she made a post and called me racist,

00:31:28.560 homophobic,

00:31:29.160 and she tagged my employer.

00:31:31.080 Um,

00:31:31.600 so of course then,

00:31:32.300 you know,

00:31:32.600 the mob on social media knows where I work now.

00:31:35.100 And so they made calls in to the company,

00:31:37.600 made death threats to the owners.

00:31:38.960 And,

00:31:39.260 um,

00:31:40.320 it,

00:31:40.700 I'm,

00:31:41.240 I don't really know how bad it was.

00:31:42.800 I know they had to get law enforcement involved to patrol the area and

00:31:45.860 protect the building.

00:31:47.100 Um,

00:31:47.660 and it just,

00:31:48.560 it just blows my mind that that's,

00:31:50.920 that's the way we're going.

00:31:53.540 So when you were brought in and you heard this,

00:31:56.740 I know you didn't want anything to happen to anybody else.

00:31:59.600 Um,

00:32:01.080 were they,

00:32:02.280 were they angry with you or what,

00:32:05.680 what was their reaction?

00:32:07.000 Was it like,

00:32:07.600 we got to get the mob off our back?

00:32:09.680 Well,

00:32:10.140 I think,

00:32:10.620 I think they were.

00:32:11.760 So I first,

00:32:12.620 they first called me cause I've,

00:32:13.760 I've been working at home due to all the COVID,

00:32:15.960 um,

00:32:17.240 regulation.

00:32:17.920 And so they called me and said,

00:32:20.140 you know,

00:32:20.660 it's been brought to our attention about this social media post.

00:32:23.700 We're going to put you on paid suspension until we complete an

00:32:26.280 investigation.

00:32:27.440 And so I kind of was just all day,

00:32:29.440 you know,

00:32:30.540 heart rate kind of going high and,

00:32:33.600 uh,

00:32:33.820 not really sure what to expect.

00:32:35.100 And then by 5 PM that day,

00:32:36.520 they called me back and said,

00:32:37.780 you know,

00:32:38.360 due to the measures we've had to take,

00:32:40.080 we've come to the conclusion we have to terminate your employment.

00:32:43.120 And I think it was something that they,

00:32:44.620 they didn't want to do.

00:32:46.120 Um,

00:32:47.140 and I,

00:32:47.500 and I could kind of hear that in their voice,

00:32:48.940 but it was one of those things.

00:32:50.080 They said like their hands were tied.

00:32:51.820 They said you resigned.

00:32:55.140 Yes,

00:32:55.540 they did.

00:32:57.500 Um,

00:32:58.020 and that's a whole other thing.

00:32:59.500 Uh,

00:32:59.980 we,

00:33:00.600 on the phone,

00:33:01.180 they offered me the option to resign.

00:33:03.000 And I said,

00:33:03.700 you know,

00:33:03.900 I appreciate that option.

00:33:05.400 And,

00:33:05.920 uh,

00:33:06.460 I guess that they took that as a commitment.

00:33:08.300 And so,

00:33:09.000 and actually an hour later I called back and said,

00:33:10.920 you know,

00:33:11.100 I've made my decision.

00:33:11.900 I'd prefer to be terminated.

00:33:13.700 Um,

00:33:14.240 but my separation notice does not say that.

00:33:16.560 So,

00:33:16.920 right,

00:33:18.160 right.

00:33:19.060 So would you do it again?

00:33:21.140 Oh,

00:33:21.480 absolutely.

00:33:22.620 Absolutely.

00:33:23.540 Um,

00:33:24.160 you know,

00:33:24.480 I've,

00:33:24.680 I've kind of,

00:33:26.260 the way things have gone down,

00:33:27.840 you know,

00:33:28.100 I feel like,

00:33:29.780 and I don't have hard feelings towards the company I worked for at all.

00:33:33.260 I mean,

00:33:33.440 they have always been wonderful and taking care of me,

00:33:35.640 but I do feel like this could have gone a completely different way.

00:33:38.660 Um,

00:33:39.060 I feel like they,

00:33:40.400 they,

00:33:40.800 they could have fired me and done what they did,

00:33:42.420 or they could have protected me and,

00:33:44.400 you know,

00:33:44.640 press charges on those making threats because those really were the people in the

00:33:48.020 wrong.

00:33:48.260 Um,

00:33:49.620 and so,

00:33:50.520 you know,

00:33:51.000 looking back,

00:33:52.380 it's like,

00:33:52.720 I don't think I wouldn't change anything.

00:33:54.180 I did.

00:33:54.740 I said what I said.

00:33:55.680 I still stand by what I said to this day.

00:33:58.120 Um,

00:33:58.560 and if,

00:33:59.040 and if the,

00:33:59.640 if an employer,

00:34:00.900 you know,

00:34:01.620 is willing to let me go because of something I posted,

00:34:06.000 not on company time,

00:34:07.580 you know,

00:34:07.940 not related to the company,

00:34:09.320 I don't,

00:34:10.440 it just kind of has solidified for me the,

00:34:12.720 the fact that it's,

00:34:13.540 it's,

00:34:14.140 I would,

00:34:16.120 it's not more,

00:34:16.780 it's not worth my time.

00:34:19.500 Reagan,

00:34:20.160 um,

00:34:20.660 you are,

00:34:21.740 uh,

00:34:23.900 I think the first person I've talked to,

00:34:26.440 um,

00:34:26.940 that has,

00:34:28.040 has actually,

00:34:29.580 uh,

00:34:30.540 live the scripture,

00:34:31.580 uh,

00:34:32.960 of,

00:34:33.440 he who will lose his life,

00:34:34.820 uh,

00:34:35.440 for my sake will gain his life.

00:34:37.580 You are the,

00:34:38.580 you're the first person that I,

00:34:40.360 uh,

00:34:40.800 think I've talked to,

00:34:41.940 Stu,

00:34:42.180 correct me if I'm wrong,

00:34:43.020 that has actually fit that scripture.

00:34:45.860 And you've had the bravery enough,

00:34:48.180 uh,

00:34:48.500 you're been brave enough to stand up against the mob and say,

00:34:52.880 I'm sorry,

00:34:54.740 but the Lord would say this.

00:34:57.860 And that is a big deal.

00:34:59.980 There's a lot of cowards out there.

00:35:02.420 Many of us.

00:35:03.740 And I,

00:35:04.320 you know,

00:35:04.680 I have been pushed to the wall,

00:35:05.980 but I have not been pushed to the wall.

00:35:07.720 Like even you have,

00:35:09.020 um,

00:35:09.780 I don't think,

00:35:11.000 um,

00:35:11.760 nobody's threatened.

00:35:12.580 Well,

00:35:12.940 no,

00:35:13.320 I take that back anyway.

00:35:15.080 But you,

00:35:16.360 you really fit that scripture and,

00:35:18.440 uh,

00:35:19.320 congratulations.

00:35:20.480 Congratulations.

00:35:21.680 Keep it up.

00:35:22.620 Thank you.

00:35:23.640 You bet.

00:35:24.240 The whole time all this was going on,

00:35:26.000 I just kept thinking of John 15,

00:35:27.940 where Jesus said,

00:35:28.660 if the world hates,

00:35:29.400 you know,

00:35:29.660 that it hated me before it hated you.

00:35:32.000 Um,

00:35:32.580 yeah.

00:35:32.920 And,

00:35:33.160 and as Christians,

00:35:34.140 we're expected,

00:35:35.260 expected to have persecution.

00:35:37.260 We're,

00:35:37.660 we're guaranteed persecution as a matter of fact.

00:35:40.720 Um,

00:35:41.260 so,

00:35:41.680 so,

00:35:42.400 you know,

00:35:42.860 the worldly reaction isn't really a surprise.

00:35:44.900 I think what was a surprise to me were the number of people that I knew and grew up with who said they were Christians and who have,

00:35:51.820 you know,

00:35:52.680 studied scripture and I've been to church with them and they still,

00:35:55.720 they have,

00:35:56.620 have fallen for this social justice gospel.

00:35:59.520 Yeah.

00:36:00.720 Reagan,

00:36:01.180 thank you very much.

00:36:02.260 Uh,

00:36:02.760 Reagan SQ day.

00:36:04.020 Uh,

00:36:04.380 I will tell you the same thing that I said in 2000,

00:36:07.300 I think nine,

00:36:07.980 if you're going to a church and they're talking about social justice,

00:36:12.280 uh,

00:36:13.620 you need to,

00:36:14.760 you need to do one of two things,

00:36:16.600 uh,

00:36:17.060 either run for your life or make your first stop your pastor's office or your priest's office and say,

00:36:25.960 what do you mean by social justice?

00:36:28.420 Uh,

00:36:28.660 there is no such thing as collective salvation.

00:36:31.460 There is no such thing as,

00:36:33.320 uh,

00:36:34.060 uh,

00:36:34.280 the redemptive power of the whole.

00:36:36.760 There is no such thing.

00:36:37.880 I mean,

00:36:38.140 it's amazing to me,

00:36:39.280 the people who argue faith versus works over and over and over and over and over and over again,

00:36:45.700 will actually be the same people who are fighting for social justice.

00:36:51.280 That's an affront to God.

00:36:53.100 When someone says there is no forgiveness for this sin,

00:36:58.340 which you didn't commit,

00:37:01.140 you're asking to be,

00:37:03.160 to,

00:37:03.460 to bow down to an altar of a false God.

00:37:07.940 And,

00:37:08.860 um,

00:37:09.840 I stand by what I said 11 years ago on social justice.

00:37:15.860 It is,

00:37:17.260 it is something that has been misconstrued.

00:37:21.060 It started out as a good thing.

00:37:24.660 I think started out as a good thing.

00:37:27.540 Some people still are convinced that it means just help the poor,

00:37:32.660 et cetera.

00:37:33.060 It does not mean that anymore.

00:37:37.620 And you'd need to know it and study it and get away from it.

00:37:43.100 When I say study it,

00:37:44.920 you better hurry because all of our history,

00:37:48.120 our dictionaries,

00:37:49.440 everything are being changed.

00:37:51.840 As we speak,

00:37:53.080 you need to keep a diary on what is true and what,

00:37:58.780 you know,

00:37:59.280 and do not go over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

00:38:03.040 I want to say something to you real quick.

00:38:05.080 Uh,

00:38:05.480 she said,

00:38:05.920 don't have time.

00:38:06.640 I just,

00:38:07.600 I want you to be here with me on July 2nd,

00:38:11.140 on July 2nd,

00:38:12.340 we are going to be doing something that I think is,

00:38:15.080 um,

00:38:16.180 it's very reminiscent of the nine 12 project show that we did.

00:38:20.200 And I want you to gather your friends and I want you to,

00:38:22.880 I want you to watch it with your family and your church.

00:38:25.660 It's very,

00:38:27.240 very important.

00:38:28.720 We are going to make it.

00:38:30.820 We are going to survive this,

00:38:32.960 but only if good men and women begin to stand up and stand together more in

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00:44:25.900 You don't want to miss this hour.

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00:44:47.240 is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:44:51.760 And this is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:44:59.080 Hello, America,

00:45:00.240 and welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:45:02.440 Well, we found out yesterday

00:45:03.600 that NBC News is colluding

00:45:06.760 with some sort of social justice group

00:45:11.800 out of London,

00:45:13.340 a foreign entity,

00:45:14.640 to try to get Google to,

00:45:18.420 I don't know what,

00:45:19.800 ban the people NBC doesn't like.

00:45:22.700 There are apparently hate groups now out there,

00:45:25.840 including the Federalist,

00:45:28.060 which,

00:45:28.760 I don't know if you've heard,

00:45:31.420 but the Federalist,

00:45:33.360 according to Google,

00:45:34.680 was not banned.

00:45:36.520 So there's no issue there.

00:45:37.920 They said

00:45:38.660 the issue revolved

00:45:40.700 the comments on the sites,

00:45:42.820 the comments on their site

00:45:44.540 that needed to be removed.

00:45:46.100 Not the content they published,

00:45:47.680 but the comments on the site.

00:45:48.900 And the matter is resolved

00:45:50.240 and no action will be taken.

00:45:52.020 Wait a minute.

00:45:52.440 So the Federalist is

00:45:54.040 responsible now

00:45:56.460 for the comments on their sites

00:45:58.140 and they can be removed?

00:45:59.500 Because if that's true,

00:46:01.420 Google,

00:46:03.020 maybe you should remove Twitter.

00:46:05.000 Maybe you should remove YouTube.

00:46:07.500 Maybe you should remove Facebook.

00:46:10.300 Oh, that's right.

00:46:11.100 Facebook and those guys.

00:46:12.820 In fact, you, Google.

00:46:15.160 With YouTube,

00:46:16.240 you're a platform.

00:46:17.720 So you get special dispensation.

00:46:20.960 You're not held responsible

00:46:22.580 for what you have

00:46:24.340 or what people say on your site.

00:46:26.660 Isn't that interesting?

00:46:29.100 That special exemption

00:46:30.660 has got to go away.

00:46:32.200 But I doubt it will

00:46:34.080 as we face the most dangerous cult

00:46:36.560 in America today.

00:46:38.440 Yeah, it's a cult.

00:46:40.820 You want evidence?

00:46:42.340 In one minute.

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00:48:13.800 Tonight,

00:48:14.580 signs torn down,

00:48:16.980 statues destroyed,

00:48:18.500 buildings defaced,

00:48:19.900 dissenters silenced.

00:48:21.900 The cultural revolution

00:48:23.260 is here and taking names.

00:48:24.700 There's no free speech

00:48:25.520 for a fascist.

00:48:26.280 Comedian Adam Carolla

00:48:27.300 joins to blast the Marxist mob.

00:48:29.300 You should be able to share ideas

00:48:31.500 without fear.

00:48:32.900 But what's next for Americans

00:48:34.220 who refuse to bow?

00:48:36.060 Glenn exposes the most dangerous

00:48:37.980 cult in America.

00:48:39.200 Tonight,

00:48:39.920 9 p.m. Eastern

00:48:40.640 at blaze-tv.com

00:48:41.740 slash Glenn.

00:48:46.660 James Lindsay,

00:48:48.160 he is the author

00:48:49.000 of Cynical Theories.

00:48:51.120 He's also the co-founder

00:48:52.300 of New Discourses.

00:48:53.980 And he has been causing quite a storm

00:48:59.200 with some of his latest writings

00:49:01.900 and tweets on the cult dynamic

00:49:04.520 of wokeness.

00:49:07.440 You know of him

00:49:09.660 because he was one of those guys

00:49:13.840 that of the three scientists,

00:49:16.580 including Helen Pluckrose,

00:49:18.620 that put together

00:49:20.880 these peer-reviewed

00:49:23.540 scientific papers

00:49:24.920 and show that the peer-review process

00:49:27.420 was garbage

00:49:28.240 if you use the right language.

00:49:30.300 He's taking it a step further now,

00:49:32.320 not trying to dupe anybody.

00:49:33.680 He's just explaining

00:49:35.700 why wokeness is a cult.

00:49:39.060 And he's here with us now

00:49:40.580 to do that.

00:49:42.080 James, how are you?

00:49:43.880 I'm good.

00:49:44.580 How are you?

00:49:46.240 Well, I'm wondering

00:49:47.700 how you think

00:49:48.460 you're going to survive this.

00:49:51.420 One day at a time, I think.

00:49:53.920 Yeah.

00:49:55.100 So, you know,

00:49:56.920 I've been following your tweets

00:49:58.660 and been reading your articles

00:50:00.940 on newdiscourses.com.

00:50:03.500 And you've come to the same conclusion

00:50:06.180 that I have,

00:50:07.480 that this is absolutely a cult

00:50:10.620 and a new religion.

00:50:13.100 That everyone is

00:50:14.720 apparently jumping

00:50:16.500 on the bandwagon for.

00:50:18.560 And I wanted you to take us through

00:50:20.600 your thinking on cults.

00:50:25.280 And I think, what do you have?

00:50:26.180 Five different points

00:50:28.740 on the cults.

00:50:30.760 And it starts with cult initiation.

00:50:33.860 So, talk to me generally

00:50:35.460 about what brought you here.

00:50:37.660 And then let's get into

00:50:38.860 the initiation.

00:50:41.360 Okay.

00:50:41.600 So, several years ago,

00:50:43.660 like you said,

00:50:44.420 the social justice movement,

00:50:46.620 as it sometimes gets called,

00:50:47.780 or wokeness,

00:50:49.180 my colleagues and I noticed

00:50:50.380 probably as early as 2013

00:50:52.560 that it's definitely got

00:50:54.740 very religious undertones.

00:50:56.720 And in fact,

00:50:57.680 in 2014,

00:50:59.440 15,

00:50:59.920 and so on,

00:51:00.460 we started to develop

00:51:01.280 those ideas.

00:51:01.920 And in 2018,

00:51:02.880 we started to go public with them.

00:51:04.140 So, we spent some time

00:51:04.860 really looking into it.

00:51:06.700 And so,

00:51:07.020 in early 2018,

00:51:07.920 we did a talk,

00:51:09.400 a public talk

00:51:10.160 at Portland State University,

00:51:11.960 Is Intersectionality a Religion?

00:51:14.280 And we laid out

00:51:15.200 some big parallels.

00:51:16.840 We talked about how,

00:51:17.820 for those of you out there

00:51:19.160 listening that have

00:51:19.980 a theological background,

00:51:22.440 it has an Augustinian framework

00:51:23.960 under it.

00:51:25.180 It's based off of a very,

00:51:26.620 you know,

00:51:26.940 confessional model.

00:51:27.940 You have to confess

00:51:28.580 your original sin of racism

00:51:30.100 and oppression

00:51:31.100 and all of this.

00:51:32.480 So,

00:51:33.240 we laid that out.

00:51:35.060 Then I wrote an article

00:51:36.540 in late 2018

00:51:38.280 in great detail,

00:51:39.820 very long,

00:51:40.700 15,000 words,

00:51:41.960 explaining how it really

00:51:43.280 is a religious movement.

00:51:45.460 And like all religions,

00:51:47.660 certain heretical cults

00:51:49.160 can spawn within them.

00:51:51.540 And so,

00:51:52.200 now we're facing

00:51:53.120 what appears to be

00:51:54.360 a very cult-like

00:51:55.540 set of behaviors.

00:51:57.180 And like you said,

00:51:58.020 I lay out three points

00:51:59.680 that lead into a cult

00:52:00.900 and then there's

00:52:01.580 two more points

00:52:03.040 that talk about

00:52:03.660 what a cult looks like

00:52:04.840 and how you get out of it.

00:52:06.860 And so,

00:52:07.260 the first stage

00:52:08.380 coming into a cult

00:52:09.860 is initiation.

00:52:12.020 The second stage

00:52:13.040 is indoctrination

00:52:13.820 and the third stage

00:52:14.800 is reprogramming.

00:52:16.420 So,

00:52:16.580 just kind of give

00:52:17.160 the map there.

00:52:18.640 It's a slow process.

00:52:20.260 It's gradual.

00:52:21.120 It's not like,

00:52:21.740 you know,

00:52:21.980 somebody snaps their fingers

00:52:23.140 and now you're in a cult.

00:52:24.260 You don't like

00:52:24.720 go to the grocery store,

00:52:26.440 talk to the wrong person

00:52:27.480 and the next day,

00:52:28.300 you know,

00:52:28.880 you're wearing

00:52:29.620 a funny uniform

00:52:30.360 and handing over

00:52:31.580 your kids or something.

00:52:32.900 It's a slow process.

00:52:33.740 This has been,

00:52:34.380 and this has been

00:52:36.380 a very slow process

00:52:38.640 in our society

00:52:40.660 starting really

00:52:41.660 with the PC movement.

00:52:43.120 So,

00:52:43.300 it doesn't necessarily

00:52:44.000 start out bad,

00:52:45.680 although I thought

00:52:46.480 PC was pretty bad,

00:52:48.480 but it played

00:52:50.440 on our better selves

00:52:52.160 to be better.

00:52:53.540 And we have

00:52:54.060 slowly been

00:52:55.840 boiled here

00:52:57.280 to the point

00:52:58.500 to where now

00:52:59.180 you can look

00:52:59.660 at the world

00:53:00.040 and say,

00:53:00.500 how is this

00:53:01.000 changing so fast?

00:53:02.920 This is,

00:53:03.600 there's a lot

00:53:04.320 of people now

00:53:04.920 in this cult,

00:53:05.620 right?

00:53:06.620 That's exactly right.

00:53:07.560 There are a lot

00:53:08.060 of people

00:53:08.460 who are either

00:53:09.360 in the cult,

00:53:10.240 probably somewhere

00:53:11.120 between 5%

00:53:12.180 and 10%

00:53:12.840 of the country

00:53:14.300 is actually,

00:53:15.180 you know,

00:53:15.800 in the cult,

00:53:16.480 which is,

00:53:16.800 that's a lot

00:53:17.260 of people.

00:53:18.280 And it's tens

00:53:19.120 of millions

00:53:19.500 of people.

00:53:20.760 And then

00:53:21.320 there are many

00:53:22.560 people beyond

00:53:23.260 that who,

00:53:24.020 you know,

00:53:24.160 much like you

00:53:24.740 would have

00:53:25.040 with a religion.

00:53:26.380 You have people

00:53:27.140 who are really

00:53:27.820 into it,

00:53:28.440 and then you

00:53:28.780 have people

00:53:29.140 who just kind

00:53:29.660 of go to church

00:53:30.140 sometimes,

00:53:30.760 right?

00:53:31.500 So you have

00:53:32.080 these social

00:53:33.020 justice people

00:53:33.700 who just kind

00:53:34.500 of,

00:53:34.660 you know,

00:53:34.840 they know

00:53:35.120 the language,

00:53:35.800 they have

00:53:36.180 the kind

00:53:36.500 of,

00:53:36.760 you know,

00:53:37.140 the moral

00:53:37.600 impulse,

00:53:38.140 but they're

00:53:39.000 not really

00:53:39.540 studying it,

00:53:40.320 they're not

00:53:40.580 deep into it.

00:53:41.520 And now,

00:53:42.900 those people

00:53:43.500 who are closer

00:53:44.180 to it,

00:53:45.060 who had some

00:53:45.660 of the ideas,

00:53:46.320 who had taken

00:53:46.620 up some of it,

00:53:47.440 they're getting

00:53:48.080 it full blast.

00:53:49.360 And what

00:53:49.840 happens in

00:53:50.320 that cult

00:53:50.680 initiation process

00:53:52.600 is they start

00:53:53.400 to full blast

00:53:54.340 hit you with

00:53:54.900 emotional vulnerability.

00:53:56.460 They try to make

00:53:57.360 you feel

00:53:57.780 emotionally vulnerable.

00:53:59.140 In this case,

00:53:59.860 they're telling

00:54:00.280 people,

00:54:00.760 our whole society

00:54:02.000 is racist,

00:54:03.040 racism is terrible,

00:54:04.060 and you're

00:54:04.660 complicit in that.

00:54:05.800 You have helped

00:54:06.600 everybody be racist.

00:54:08.320 You have made

00:54:09.040 these terrible

00:54:09.620 things,

00:54:10.640 like,

00:54:11.540 you know,

00:54:11.940 these claims

00:54:12.840 about how

00:54:13.560 black people

00:54:14.920 are being shot

00:54:16.560 by police every day,

00:54:17.480 which aren't true,

00:54:18.340 but that's what

00:54:18.900 they call

00:54:19.200 their lived

00:54:19.520 experience.

00:54:22.080 You're complicit

00:54:22.900 in that.

00:54:23.360 That's what

00:54:23.600 they tell people.

00:54:24.220 So it creates

00:54:24.800 an opening

00:54:25.520 of emotional

00:54:26.280 vulnerability.

00:54:27.940 And the

00:54:28.540 initiation process

00:54:29.540 begins by

00:54:30.740 creating and

00:54:31.800 inflaming that

00:54:33.220 vulnerable place

00:54:34.540 and then sticking

00:54:35.920 the cult doctrine

00:54:36.720 in to make you

00:54:37.560 feel better.

00:54:38.180 So you'll take

00:54:39.020 it up.

00:54:39.460 So now,

00:54:39.740 did we play

00:54:41.440 into the

00:54:42.120 initiation process

00:54:43.160 in our own

00:54:43.960 selves by

00:54:45.500 allowing people

00:54:47.280 to,

00:54:48.080 say that

00:54:49.440 the whole

00:54:49.780 country is

00:54:50.420 racist

00:54:50.920 and us

00:54:52.900 kind of

00:54:53.900 sitting here

00:54:54.320 going,

00:54:54.620 well,

00:54:54.960 it's not,

00:54:55.920 but I see

00:54:56.700 their point

00:54:57.220 on this

00:54:57.660 and this.

00:54:58.520 Did we

00:54:58.880 kind of

00:54:59.320 ease the,

00:55:00.380 or grease

00:55:01.020 the rails

00:55:02.420 here for them?

00:55:03.100 Yes and

00:55:05.140 no.

00:55:05.580 I don't think

00:55:06.120 it's really

00:55:06.560 fair to say

00:55:07.220 that we did

00:55:07.960 too much

00:55:08.320 of that,

00:55:08.660 but I will

00:55:09.020 stick a couple

00:55:09.740 of institutions

00:55:10.700 or maybe

00:55:11.160 three with

00:55:12.860 a lot of

00:55:14.380 blame on

00:55:15.660 this because

00:55:16.080 they didn't

00:55:16.940 try to say,

00:55:18.140 okay,

00:55:18.420 I see your

00:55:18.900 point,

00:55:19.420 let's be

00:55:19.740 reasonable.

00:55:20.340 It's not,

00:55:20.840 but they

00:55:21.140 didn't do

00:55:21.480 that kind

00:55:21.920 of like,

00:55:22.500 let me hear

00:55:23.180 you out

00:55:23.680 perspective,

00:55:24.520 which I think

00:55:25.000 is totally

00:55:25.380 fair and

00:55:25.880 reasonable

00:55:26.200 from anybody.

00:55:27.100 You have

00:55:27.980 our universities,

00:55:29.540 you have

00:55:30.460 our schools,

00:55:33.200 and you

00:55:33.640 have a lot

00:55:34.760 of the,

00:55:35.660 as you know,

00:55:36.700 it often gets

00:55:37.200 phrased mainstream

00:55:37.980 journalism,

00:55:39.200 the media,

00:55:39.820 that have all

00:55:40.380 taken this

00:55:40.880 stuff on whole

00:55:41.600 hog.

00:55:42.900 The media did

00:55:43.600 it because it

00:55:44.200 gets clicks.

00:55:44.900 Hot takes

00:55:45.360 get clicks.

00:55:46.520 They get views.

00:55:47.800 They get ratings.

00:55:48.640 Lots of people

00:55:49.220 pay attention,

00:55:49.820 so it's kind

00:55:50.300 of a perverse

00:55:50.860 incentive there.

00:55:52.320 The education

00:55:53.160 program in the

00:55:53.800 universities did

00:55:54.580 it, however,

00:55:55.480 because first,

00:55:56.720 they didn't

00:55:57.220 have the guts

00:55:58.320 to stand up

00:55:59.000 to this

00:55:59.460 crackpot theory

00:56:00.560 that it all

00:56:01.160 comes from.

00:56:01.940 I've dedicated

00:56:02.480 the last several

00:56:03.180 years of my

00:56:03.700 life to

00:56:04.680 studying this

00:56:05.280 crackpot theory

00:56:06.020 under this

00:56:06.500 cult, and

00:56:07.440 they didn't

00:56:07.760 stand up to

00:56:08.280 it when they

00:56:08.660 should have.

00:56:09.160 They didn't

00:56:09.620 stop it when

00:56:10.320 it was rising

00:56:10.880 up.

00:56:11.300 The last

00:56:11.740 time anybody

00:56:12.240 really tried

00:56:12.820 to fight

00:56:13.220 these ideas

00:56:14.060 in what's

00:56:14.420 called critical

00:56:15.060 race theory

00:56:15.700 in the academic

00:56:16.700 literature was

00:56:17.400 in the 1990s.

00:56:19.100 They just

00:56:19.420 kind of folded

00:56:20.080 and let it

00:56:20.760 go because they

00:56:21.500 didn't want to

00:56:22.080 be called

00:56:22.480 racist.

00:56:23.280 That's basically

00:56:23.980 how this thing

00:56:24.560 works.

00:56:25.080 It doesn't

00:56:26.080 really have any

00:56:26.600 arguments.

00:56:27.900 Its cases

00:56:28.680 are very weak.

00:56:29.600 It does have

00:56:30.180 a point each

00:56:31.060 time.

00:56:31.380 It makes a

00:56:31.780 point, and

00:56:32.700 people say,

00:56:33.140 oh, I see

00:56:33.520 how you see

00:56:34.000 that.

00:56:35.340 Let's hear

00:56:35.980 about it.

00:56:36.820 But it's

00:56:37.840 really the

00:56:38.620 worst possible

00:56:39.720 way to

00:56:40.100 analyze it.

00:56:41.080 And then all

00:56:41.700 these academics

00:56:42.400 didn't stand

00:56:43.300 up to it

00:56:43.740 because they

00:56:44.240 would get

00:56:44.500 called racist.

00:56:45.980 And then

00:56:46.200 there maybe

00:56:46.540 would be a

00:56:47.100 department

00:56:47.760 review.

00:56:48.320 The next

00:56:48.600 thing you

00:56:48.880 know, we

00:56:49.640 had a Supreme

00:56:50.120 Court case

00:56:50.760 and started

00:56:51.160 installing these

00:56:51.960 diversity offices,

00:56:52.960 which gave it

00:56:53.600 administrative power.

00:56:54.600 And the

00:56:55.280 university is

00:56:55.920 basically just

00:56:56.500 folded.

00:56:57.260 And what

00:56:57.620 happens in the

00:56:58.100 university five

00:56:58.860 to ten years

00:56:59.320 later happens in

00:57:00.120 culture.

00:57:00.640 So here we

00:57:01.200 are, you

00:57:01.940 know, five

00:57:02.280 to ten years,

00:57:03.120 twenty years

00:57:03.520 later, and

00:57:04.460 it's everywhere.

00:57:06.200 So when we're

00:57:07.100 going through the

00:57:07.900 initiation stage,

00:57:09.480 the reason why

00:57:11.040 we're susceptible

00:57:12.140 to this is

00:57:13.400 because we do

00:57:14.640 want to do the

00:57:15.380 right thing.

00:57:16.000 Like, you know,

00:57:17.160 when somebody says,

00:57:17.840 look, you're on the

00:57:19.040 side of racist.

00:57:20.220 Nobody wants to be

00:57:21.100 on the side of

00:57:21.600 racist.

00:57:22.020 And you

00:57:23.760 can't even

00:57:24.320 understand how

00:57:26.000 you're racist.

00:57:26.680 Just help us

00:57:27.860 dismantle the

00:57:28.660 system.

00:57:29.220 We're building a

00:57:29.800 better world

00:57:30.380 here.

00:57:31.200 That appeals to

00:57:32.580 us.

00:57:33.100 And so that's

00:57:33.920 we kind of can

00:57:35.540 half-heartedly get

00:57:36.620 into the front

00:57:37.500 door like that.

00:57:39.320 That's exactly

00:57:40.180 right.

00:57:40.620 And that's I

00:57:41.100 mean, I don't

00:57:41.560 like to usually

00:57:42.340 use words like

00:57:43.560 this, but that's

00:57:45.040 why this is

00:57:45.560 actually an evil

00:57:46.560 cult.

00:57:47.100 That's why I'd

00:57:47.640 be, I would

00:57:48.520 say, more of a

00:57:49.400 cult than a

00:57:50.020 religion.

00:57:50.400 And it's

00:57:51.140 because it's

00:57:51.620 playing upon

00:57:52.320 people's best

00:57:53.080 instincts to

00:57:53.780 turn into

00:57:54.200 something different.

00:57:55.200 It's telling

00:57:55.920 you, no, we

00:57:56.540 just want to

00:57:56.980 get rid of

00:57:57.400 racism.

00:57:58.000 But that's

00:57:58.540 not true.

00:57:59.240 They write on

00:57:59.940 almost every

00:58:00.580 page of their

00:58:01.320 literature that

00:58:01.900 they want a

00:58:02.340 radical overhaul

00:58:03.560 of the whole

00:58:04.020 system that gets

00:58:04.660 rid of liberal

00:58:05.180 freedoms.

00:58:06.020 They say it

00:58:06.900 explicitly.

00:58:07.740 They do not

00:58:08.660 just want to

00:58:09.240 get rid of

00:58:09.600 racism because

00:58:10.260 they believe

00:58:10.840 the first

00:58:11.420 pillar of

00:58:12.080 this theory

00:58:12.680 that's called

00:58:13.180 critical race

00:58:13.800 theory is that

00:58:14.900 racism is the

00:58:15.880 ordinary state

00:58:16.840 of affairs in

00:58:17.800 American society.

00:58:18.820 That's the

00:58:19.140 first idea

00:58:20.260 that they

00:58:20.580 have.

00:58:21.380 So the

00:58:21.740 only way to

00:58:22.420 get rid of

00:58:22.880 racism when

00:58:23.360 they say we

00:58:23.740 just want to

00:58:24.200 get rid of

00:58:24.520 racism is to

00:58:25.620 completely tear

00:58:26.580 down the

00:58:27.020 entire system

00:58:27.840 that we have

00:58:28.400 back to the

00:58:28.860 Constitution and

00:58:30.220 build a new

00:58:30.780 one that they've

00:58:31.760 wanted to

00:58:32.400 socially engineer

00:58:33.000 for us.

00:58:34.000 And it's evil

00:58:34.580 because they

00:58:35.120 play on our

00:58:36.020 best instincts.

00:58:37.420 They lie to us

00:58:38.240 and I mean that

00:58:39.020 they lie to us

00:58:39.920 about what the

00:58:40.360 word racism

00:58:40.900 means, what the

00:58:41.520 word white

00:58:41.860 supremacy means,

00:58:42.720 and they

00:58:43.680 manipulate our

00:58:44.540 emotions.

00:58:44.940 they play

00:58:46.040 upon our

00:58:46.740 willingness to

00:58:47.860 do the right

00:58:48.340 thing and

00:58:49.300 then turn it

00:58:50.340 into something

00:58:50.880 completely different.

00:58:52.460 And I wish I

00:58:53.140 was exaggerating.

00:58:54.060 And like you

00:58:54.700 said, nobody

00:58:55.380 wants to be

00:58:55.820 associated with

00:58:56.360 racism, so they

00:58:57.720 have this cultural

00:58:59.320 nuclear weapon

00:59:00.220 that's calling

00:59:01.560 somebody a racist.

00:59:02.420 I mean you look

00:59:02.920 at any example

00:59:03.780 you want, now

00:59:04.660 there are so

00:59:05.260 many, you can't

00:59:06.340 even pick one to

00:59:07.140 just hone in on

00:59:08.060 where people are

00:59:08.620 losing their jobs

00:59:09.500 because somebody

00:59:10.120 on the internet

00:59:10.620 called them

00:59:11.040 racist.

00:59:11.760 So you can

00:59:12.460 ruin somebody's

00:59:13.340 life with one

00:59:15.160 accusation of

00:59:15.880 racism and then

00:59:17.040 this cult tactic

00:59:18.400 has ideas like

00:59:19.540 white fragility,

00:59:20.640 has this weird

00:59:21.720 definition of

00:59:22.580 racism, weird

00:59:23.280 definition of

00:59:23.860 anti-racism, so

00:59:25.260 that if they call

00:59:25.980 you a racist and

00:59:26.800 you deny it, now

00:59:28.740 all of a sudden

00:59:29.340 that's proof that

00:59:30.060 you're a racist.

00:59:30.760 That's literally a

00:59:31.700 witch trial.

00:59:35.100 So James, I'm

00:59:36.440 going to come

00:59:36.720 back, I'm going

00:59:37.140 to take a one

00:59:37.660 minute break for

00:59:38.320 a sponsor, but

00:59:38.920 the other thing

00:59:40.800 that they have

00:59:41.560 going for them

00:59:42.180 used to, they

00:59:42.560 have a nuclear

00:59:43.100 weapon, the other

00:59:43.840 nuclear weapon

00:59:44.680 that they have

00:59:45.480 is the media

00:59:47.560 and culture.

00:59:49.240 Nobody wants

00:59:50.080 to be an

00:59:50.560 outsider, everybody

00:59:51.620 wants to be in

00:59:52.420 the cool kid

00:59:53.080 club, and if

00:59:54.800 they call you a

00:59:55.600 racist, you're

00:59:56.900 away on the

00:59:57.760 outs of all of

00:59:58.740 society, but then

01:00:00.780 also there's this

01:00:02.060 reward that you're

01:00:03.780 in the cool kids

01:00:04.580 club if you're

01:00:06.120 with them, and

01:00:07.540 that's what the

01:00:08.080 media provides, I

01:00:09.420 think, that's

01:00:10.360 what Hollywood

01:00:10.820 provides, and

01:00:11.680 that is extraordinarily

01:00:13.640 powerful as well.

01:00:15.660 Back with James

01:00:16.380 Lindsay in just a

01:00:18.440 second, really,

01:00:19.900 really smart guy.

01:00:20.500 For him to use the

01:00:21.260 word evil is a

01:00:22.320 rather big deal if

01:00:23.840 you know James

01:00:25.000 Lindsay.

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01:00:35.220 All right, American

01:00:36.680 financing, I don't

01:00:37.540 know if you notice

01:00:38.080 this, but we've

01:00:38.640 had a little

01:00:39.780 pandemic in the

01:00:40.560 world, and the

01:00:42.140 economy was going

01:00:43.060 full steam ahead, and

01:00:44.060 now not so much.

01:00:46.740 This has pulled the

01:00:47.760 rug out of, you

01:00:49.280 know, from

01:00:49.620 underneath so many

01:00:50.720 people.

01:00:51.440 I just saw a stat

01:00:52.240 today, 50% of all

01:00:54.160 black businesses have

01:00:56.420 gone under now

01:00:57.860 because of the

01:01:00.040 COVID-19 pandemic,

01:01:02.180 actually our response

01:01:03.320 to it, that is

01:01:04.820 terrifying.

01:01:06.500 The results of

01:01:07.060 that are terrifying.

01:01:08.840 If you're in a

01:01:09.820 situation right now

01:01:10.940 where you are not

01:01:13.000 sitting pretty, you

01:01:14.040 could lose your job

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01:01:55.480 We break for 10

01:01:56.460 seconds.

01:01:56.840 So James Lindsay is

01:02:11.840 with us, and James, we

01:02:13.840 were talking about

01:02:14.620 first the initiation,

01:02:16.460 just that first thing to

01:02:17.740 get you in, and then

01:02:20.400 they have you make a few

01:02:23.480 other little steps, and

01:02:26.580 start separating you from

01:02:28.540 the trust of any kind of

01:02:30.980 outside influences, and

01:02:33.220 then we get into full cult

01:02:34.680 indoctrination.

01:02:35.620 Tell me about that step.

01:02:37.680 Yeah, so that's exactly

01:02:39.160 what you were saying right

01:02:40.140 before the break, where you

01:02:41.220 said that, you know, the

01:02:42.220 media creates this cool

01:02:44.800 kids club, and you're,

01:02:48.080 you know, the culture

01:02:49.620 around this kind of

01:02:50.960 leftist culture that's

01:02:52.100 developed has been very

01:02:53.020 exclusive for a long

01:02:54.940 time.

01:02:55.440 You know, there were

01:02:55.920 articles a few years ago,

01:02:56.960 I remember, where it said

01:02:57.800 you couldn't hang out with

01:02:58.720 your left-wing friends and

01:03:00.340 be comfortable, and these

01:03:01.100 were written by left-wing

01:03:01.800 people who were scared

01:03:03.480 that this was a bad sign,

01:03:04.960 as they were correct,

01:03:05.760 because, you know, maybe

01:03:06.580 you ate the wrong kind of

01:03:07.500 hamburger, and somebody

01:03:08.720 just has to tell you, oh,

01:03:10.560 it's not organic beef, or

01:03:11.720 oh, it's not this, or

01:03:12.540 it's not that.

01:03:13.260 There's all this nitpicking,

01:03:14.340 and they said, this is a

01:03:15.240 really bad sign, and so

01:03:16.560 what this is, is exactly

01:03:17.780 what you were just

01:03:18.400 describing, is it's a

01:03:19.320 separation away from

01:03:21.380 people who think

01:03:22.300 differently than the cult.

01:03:23.760 So they initiate you by

01:03:25.460 giving you these

01:03:26.400 manipulations on your

01:03:28.120 emotions, and then they

01:03:30.160 give you the doctrine to

01:03:31.400 fill in that space and

01:03:32.540 make you feel away from

01:03:34.160 that bad feeling of

01:03:36.400 vulnerability, and then

01:03:38.320 they start to tell you

01:03:39.340 that they also shower you

01:03:40.620 with praise and

01:03:41.200 acceptance.

01:03:41.680 Oh, you're one of us

01:03:42.400 now.

01:03:42.740 You're, you know,

01:03:43.620 welcome, welcome, you

01:03:45.400 know, you're woke, you're

01:03:46.160 on the right side of

01:03:46.820 history, they tell you all

01:03:47.760 these good things, then

01:03:48.960 they start to tell you,

01:03:49.780 well, you need to not

01:03:50.620 listen to other people.

01:03:53.080 Conservatives are literally

01:03:54.020 Nazis.

01:03:54.580 Don't talk to

01:03:55.180 conservatives.

01:03:55.840 They say things like

01:03:56.660 that.

01:03:57.080 You can't read

01:03:57.740 conservative sources.

01:03:59.400 If your parents say

01:04:00.600 something racist, don't

01:04:02.000 listen to your parents,

01:04:02.860 call them out.

01:04:03.600 So they start to create

01:04:04.340 separation from other

01:04:06.040 people in your life who

01:04:07.200 might have a moderating

01:04:08.760 force or a moderating

01:04:10.460 belief that might stop

01:04:12.100 you from going further

01:04:12.920 into the cult.

01:04:14.280 That's typically how

01:04:15.480 cults work.

01:04:16.180 This is where there's

01:04:16.860 another model of cults

01:04:18.060 that's called the bite

01:04:18.880 model.

01:04:19.480 It's put together by a

01:04:20.460 guy, Steve Hassan, B-I-T-E,

01:04:24.080 and the letters, it's an

01:04:25.580 acronym, the letters all

01:04:26.480 stand for something.

01:04:27.320 They're forms of control.

01:04:29.220 This is where the

01:04:30.220 indoctrination process

01:04:31.520 involves behavior control,

01:04:34.040 information control,

01:04:35.660 thought control, and

01:04:36.960 emotion control.

01:04:37.760 And that's where they

01:04:39.740 really start to do this

01:04:40.880 in the indoctrination

01:04:42.360 program.

01:04:43.460 Meanwhile, they

01:04:44.000 constantly get you to

01:04:45.080 quote, do the work or

01:04:46.980 educate yourself.

01:04:48.640 You hear these phrases

01:04:49.460 all the time now.

01:04:50.300 What they're telling you

01:04:50.860 to do is go read their

01:04:52.120 literature.

01:04:53.240 And now they have these

01:04:54.240 huge apparatuses.

01:04:55.980 Every company I know of is

01:04:57.520 making its employees read

01:04:58.800 White Fragility, How to

01:05:01.140 Be an Antiracist, all of

01:05:02.460 these books that are, I

01:05:04.200 mean, I've read these

01:05:04.980 books.

01:05:05.600 These things are very

01:05:09.040 much in the vein of

01:05:10.380 pushing people in that

01:05:11.460 direction.

01:05:12.380 And it's just one side of

01:05:14.300 a story that's rather

01:05:15.460 poorly argued in every

01:05:16.720 case.

01:05:18.120 And it's their number

01:05:19.560 one through five

01:05:20.480 bestseller, top ten

01:05:22.320 bestseller books right

01:05:23.180 now because every

01:05:23.960 company, every agency,

01:05:25.840 everything is making

01:05:27.160 everybody read them.

01:05:29.000 And so that's the

01:05:29.940 stage.

01:05:30.740 They're indoctrinating

01:05:31.640 you.

01:05:31.960 They're feeding you the

01:05:32.900 literature of the cult

01:05:34.100 while making sure you

01:05:35.260 have access to no other

01:05:36.720 sources to contradict it.

01:05:38.720 That's why I'm building

01:05:39.480 NewDiscourses.com.

01:05:40.860 It's because I want to

01:05:42.540 give people a fair but

01:05:44.900 outside perspective.

01:05:47.400 Okay.

01:05:48.020 We'll talk to James.

01:05:50.120 The last step is cult

01:05:51.540 reprogramming.

01:05:52.940 And then how do you get

01:05:53.780 people out of this cult?

01:05:54.960 What does all of this

01:05:55.880 mean?

01:05:57.080 You can find him at

01:05:59.120 NewDiscourses.com.

01:06:01.560 NewDiscourses.com.

01:06:02.640 All right.

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01:07:17.740 Tonight on Blaze TV at 8 p.m.

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01:07:25.220 The cult dynamics of

01:07:52.580 Wokeness by James Lindsay, who

01:07:55.260 has just started a new

01:07:57.080 website, new discourses dot

01:07:59.300 com, where people can actually

01:08:02.100 speak freely tonight at nine

01:08:04.460 o'clock.

01:08:04.940 I'm going over the most

01:08:06.660 dangerous cult in America, and

01:08:10.080 it's the same cult we're talking

01:08:11.160 about now.

01:08:12.580 And and our guest tonight is

01:08:15.320 going to be Adam Carolla.

01:08:17.300 Based on just what he has said

01:08:19.200 recently, I'm not going to bow

01:08:20.440 down to anybody.

01:08:21.400 I am not playing this game.

01:08:25.280 And, you know, when you look at

01:08:26.920 what's happening, this is

01:08:28.040 becoming a religion.

01:08:30.080 You are a sinner unless they say

01:08:33.120 you're saved.

01:08:34.300 And if you don't bow down to

01:08:37.180 their God, you've got to be

01:08:40.660 destroyed.

01:08:41.340 You're you're part of the evil

01:08:43.320 that is going on.

01:08:44.720 And it's becoming very, very

01:08:46.640 dangerous.

01:08:47.100 Now, we've been talking about

01:08:49.080 the steps on getting you into

01:08:51.880 this cult with cult initiation.

01:08:54.420 And then there's cult

01:08:55.620 indoctrination and then cult

01:08:58.340 reprogramming.

01:08:59.600 And this is this is really

01:09:01.580 dangerous because this goes

01:09:06.080 beyond just saying, you know,

01:09:08.180 you've got to say the right

01:09:10.040 thing and don't say, you know,

01:09:11.500 don't don't engage in wrong

01:09:12.720 think.

01:09:13.680 But this actually goes now

01:09:16.020 right deep into Marx.

01:09:18.240 Am I am I correct on that,

01:09:20.440 James?

01:09:21.440 You are.

01:09:22.380 Actually, that is where if you

01:09:24.160 if you really trace this back,

01:09:25.740 it's evolved.

01:09:26.600 It's much different.

01:09:28.020 You mentioned that I've got the

01:09:29.780 book Cynical Theories coming out

01:09:31.260 in August.

01:09:31.820 And that book traces one

01:09:34.680 element of how this has

01:09:35.740 evolved, the postmodern

01:09:36.860 element, which is also

01:09:38.400 rooted in Marx.

01:09:40.280 And so it does.

01:09:41.220 That's what this is.

01:09:42.260 And so what what people

01:09:43.520 don't understand and why

01:09:44.780 this is so dangerous

01:09:45.740 about this woke cult

01:09:48.160 is that it's not just some

01:09:50.280 wacky kids on college

01:09:51.540 campuses or their professors

01:09:52.940 or people in the media

01:09:54.160 saying weird things.

01:09:55.280 They actually have been

01:09:56.800 taught to think in a

01:09:58.200 different way, a

01:09:59.340 completely different way.

01:10:00.180 And the way that works

01:10:01.400 is by getting people

01:10:03.440 to do little steps.

01:10:05.400 You just mentioned

01:10:06.140 the bowing down

01:10:07.840 or taking the knee

01:10:08.700 or whatever it is.

01:10:09.900 They get you to do little

01:10:10.960 steps that increase

01:10:12.480 your commitment.

01:10:13.460 Right.

01:10:14.040 So you say there was a

01:10:15.880 thing that they just

01:10:16.620 showed from the

01:10:17.380 autonomous zone in

01:10:18.440 Seattle where they gave

01:10:19.260 a speech.

01:10:19.680 It went viral.

01:10:20.600 And the deal was, you

01:10:21.980 know, you need to go find

01:10:22.960 a black person and give

01:10:23.920 them ten dollars or

01:10:24.860 you're not really

01:10:25.460 committed.

01:10:26.200 That was the statement

01:10:27.020 that the guy.

01:10:27.860 It's kind of like

01:10:28.800 tithing.

01:10:29.220 But the thing is, is it

01:10:31.320 costs you money.

01:10:32.940 It's something the guy

01:10:33.980 even says you won't want

01:10:34.940 to do this.

01:10:35.400 And if you don't, it's

01:10:36.140 because you're not

01:10:36.720 committed.

01:10:37.000 It's a step to make you

01:10:38.580 do something symbolic

01:10:39.680 and costly to make you

01:10:42.100 identify yourself as a

01:10:43.840 person who believes in

01:10:45.560 this cause.

01:10:46.560 And so they start to

01:10:47.180 reprogram you.

01:10:48.600 They've already

01:10:49.080 indoctrinated you with

01:10:50.100 the ideas by making you

01:10:51.500 read the literature and

01:10:52.460 do the work.

01:10:52.940 And again, this is a

01:10:53.840 process.

01:10:54.660 It doesn't just happen.

01:10:55.700 It's like the stages kind

01:10:56.660 of blend together and mix

01:10:57.820 together.

01:10:58.140 And then they get you

01:10:59.440 to do costly things like

01:11:00.860 humiliate yourself or make

01:11:04.100 public declarations crying in

01:11:06.100 front of a camera about how

01:11:07.400 sorry you are and then still

01:11:09.120 keep firing you afterwards.

01:11:11.300 They make you give up your

01:11:12.720 job.

01:11:13.160 They make you give money to

01:11:14.400 causes or to people.

01:11:15.640 All these things are meant to

01:11:16.860 build commitment to see

01:11:18.260 yourself more and more and

01:11:19.400 more as the kind of person who

01:11:21.800 participates in this call.

01:11:22.940 And like I said, the goal is

01:11:24.140 to get you to think in a

01:11:25.280 particular way that nobody

01:11:27.060 really recognizes.

01:11:28.200 That's where the Marxism,

01:11:29.760 that's where the neo-Marxism,

01:11:31.260 and that's where the

01:11:31.840 postmodernism come into this.

01:11:34.180 That's how this is.

01:11:35.280 This is this is conflict

01:11:37.460 theory.

01:11:38.120 This is Marx conflict

01:11:39.240 theory, which I don't think

01:11:40.980 right.

01:11:42.260 Very many of us even know

01:11:43.780 what that means.

01:11:44.500 So explain conflict

01:11:46.820 theory.

01:11:48.660 Marx is.

01:11:49.540 I mean, a lot of the people

01:11:50.800 associate.

01:11:51.580 They hear Marx and they just

01:11:52.880 think communism.

01:11:53.420 And that's the end of it.

01:11:54.700 Marx's most dangerous and

01:11:55.900 most important idea was

01:11:56.820 conflict theory.

01:11:58.000 What he believed is and what

01:11:59.940 he pushed is and what that

01:12:01.100 spirit of Marxism that's

01:12:02.580 pushing through to wokeness

01:12:03.580 today is, is the belief that

01:12:05.620 society has different social

01:12:07.240 groups that have different

01:12:08.160 social standing, poor, rich,

01:12:10.640 capitalist versus

01:12:12.380 proletariat, whatever it is,

01:12:13.840 different ones.

01:12:14.520 And they are in automatically

01:12:16.380 in conflict.

01:12:17.420 They're at war with one

01:12:18.400 another for status and

01:12:19.700 opportunity.

01:12:20.260 Now it's the matter is race

01:12:22.800 and other factors of

01:12:23.660 identity like sexuality and

01:12:25.400 gender and so on.

01:12:26.700 But it was economics with

01:12:28.500 Marx.

01:12:29.480 So this is the same idea that

01:12:31.320 these different categories have

01:12:32.860 different levels of status in

01:12:34.500 society and they're automatically

01:12:36.440 at war with one another.

01:12:38.260 So one of the ways this cult makes

01:12:40.360 you think is I belong to an

01:12:42.420 identity group.

01:12:43.300 In fact, I identify with an

01:12:45.120 identity group and that identity

01:12:47.120 group is at war with the other

01:12:48.640 identity groups.

01:12:53.160 Yeah, that's dark.

01:12:54.440 So, so, so James, you go

01:12:58.660 into how to get people out of

01:13:01.580 this cult and you don't read

01:13:03.900 not a lot of hope there.

01:13:06.680 It's hard that it's really hard

01:13:08.660 to get somebody out of a cult.

01:13:11.100 Luckily, like I said, most people

01:13:13.600 aren't in the cult at the moment.

01:13:15.440 And a lot of people are really

01:13:17.860 having their first sincere

01:13:19.400 encounter with it.

01:13:20.800 And I keep hearing now letters I

01:13:22.760 get from people where people are

01:13:24.520 kind of taking it on.

01:13:25.720 They're, they're reading it and

01:13:26.960 then they're saying, what is

01:13:28.280 this?

01:13:28.520 You know, they read Robin DiAngelo's

01:13:30.100 book, White Fragility.

01:13:31.760 It's very difficult.

01:13:32.760 I'm not going to call Robin DiAngelo

01:13:34.360 any names, but it's very

01:13:35.300 difficult to read that book.

01:13:36.600 I've read it a few times now and

01:13:38.020 come away with all you can think

01:13:39.940 is, wow, this woman is struggling

01:13:42.240 with her own issues about race

01:13:44.060 and has written it down and

01:13:45.480 basically said everybody's racist

01:13:47.100 because she can't deal with her

01:13:48.560 own problem.

01:13:49.420 That's the feeling you get.

01:13:51.280 And so a lot of people are

01:13:53.100 identifying that and they're,

01:13:54.740 they're kind of, I see a lot of

01:13:56.180 people taking it up, but a lot of

01:13:57.600 people rejecting it too, which

01:13:59.340 means there is hope.

01:14:00.600 There is the ability.

01:14:01.980 In fact, where the, what usually

01:14:03.980 gets people out of a cult when you

01:14:06.180 can do it, especially when it's in

01:14:07.680 a very early stage is getting them

01:14:09.580 to see the unfairness, getting them

01:14:11.920 to see how inhumane it is, or

01:14:13.800 getting them to see the

01:14:14.480 contradictions.

01:14:16.120 A good example is White Fragility.

01:14:18.500 When you read it the way that

01:14:19.700 Robin DiAngelo puts it, it sounds

01:14:21.280 all kind of nice, but something is

01:14:23.460 off.

01:14:23.740 I hear that over and over again.

01:14:25.040 Something's off, but okay.

01:14:27.520 But if you highlight what's off,

01:14:29.760 White Fragility is a doctrine that

01:14:31.560 says if you're accused of racism or

01:14:33.640 White Fragility itself, and you say,

01:14:36.380 no, that's not true, or you don't,

01:14:39.420 you just say, I'm not going to do

01:14:40.560 this, that's supposed to be you

01:14:42.380 exhibiting White Fragility, which

01:14:43.720 means racism.

01:14:44.800 So when you boil that down, it means

01:14:47.020 that White Fragility says there are

01:14:49.020 two kinds of people who have racial

01:14:51.160 privilege in the world.

01:14:52.460 One of those is a racist who's willing

01:14:54.880 to admit it, and the other is a racist

01:14:56.960 who's too fragile to admit it.

01:14:58.320 So it basically says everybody's a

01:14:59.780 racist.

01:15:00.860 And when people see that, they say,

01:15:02.680 this is crap.

01:15:04.000 When they see that no matter what you

01:15:05.980 do once you're accused of racism, it

01:15:08.080 just proves your racism.

01:15:09.840 People aren't stupid.

01:15:11.480 We're not stupid.

01:15:12.420 We know what a kangaroo court looks

01:15:13.760 like.

01:15:13.980 We know what something bogus is.

01:15:16.160 And so that kind of thing can snap

01:15:17.840 people out of it.

01:15:20.000 This is more than a kangaroo court.

01:15:22.300 This is more like, I think, the Salem

01:15:24.560 witch trials.

01:15:26.200 You know, if you're accused of being a

01:15:27.600 witch and you say you're not a witch,

01:15:29.100 that's exactly what a witch would say.

01:15:31.560 What did you just say?

01:15:33.180 That is how history will write this

01:15:35.240 chapter of our time, is that this was

01:15:39.360 a new, you know, whether it's Salem or

01:15:42.260 whether it's the European ones, which

01:15:43.760 were much more deadly, this is a new

01:15:45.940 period of witch trials in which the

01:15:48.400 witches are racist.

01:15:51.020 The time before was that you were in

01:15:53.460 collusion with Satan or you were in

01:15:55.060 collusion with the devil or you had

01:15:56.920 demonic influence, all this invisible

01:15:59.180 stuff.

01:15:59.880 And then if you denied it, well, that's

01:16:01.320 what somebody who had demonic influence

01:16:03.000 would say.

01:16:03.680 So clearly you must be a witch.

01:16:05.700 And now it's you're a racist.

01:16:08.180 And if you deny it, you must therefore

01:16:10.100 be a racist.

01:16:11.260 And so they even say it in their

01:16:12.780 literature, though, right?

01:16:13.640 It's not even fair.

01:16:14.440 They say there's no such thing as not

01:16:15.940 racist.

01:16:16.960 No such thing as it.

01:16:18.120 It's impossible.

01:16:19.420 So you can either be racist or you can

01:16:21.920 be anti-racist, but still also

01:16:24.340 necessarily racist.

01:16:26.080 Anti-racists are also racist because

01:16:28.340 there's no not racist.

01:16:30.600 Except for them.

01:16:32.600 No, that's the thing.

01:16:34.480 That's how this is.

01:16:35.260 That's why this is so dangerous.

01:16:37.120 They believe that everybody's racist

01:16:39.080 and there are only two types of

01:16:40.400 people, not they are also racist.

01:16:42.640 They're the people who will go and

01:16:44.040 cry and confess to it and dig

01:16:46.180 themselves deeper into the cult.

01:16:47.940 And those are the relatively good

01:16:49.060 people.

01:16:49.880 And then there are the racists who

01:16:50.880 won't dare admit it.

01:16:51.740 And those are the bad people.

01:16:52.660 Wow, James, I can't thank you.

01:16:59.060 You get the Lady Macbeth feeling,

01:16:59.880 right?

01:17:00.840 Ow, ow.

01:17:02.040 Wash it off your head.

01:17:03.060 Yeah.

01:17:03.560 Yes.

01:17:04.460 Yes.

01:17:05.440 Hang on.

01:17:06.200 Stu, I think, has a question.

01:17:07.560 Yeah, James, quickly, because this

01:17:09.520 has really been amazing to hear this

01:17:10.940 stuff.

01:17:11.300 Is this the same thing that's sort of

01:17:13.360 echoed in the crazy sort of self-

01:17:16.800 punishing celebrity videos that we see

01:17:19.320 where they apologize for everything and

01:17:21.700 take responsibility for all the terrible

01:17:24.320 actions they've apparently been a part

01:17:26.240 of all these years?

01:17:28.120 Absolutely.

01:17:28.820 That's them, you know, reacting to that

01:17:31.340 emotional manipulation.

01:17:33.080 So they're told that, you know, you're

01:17:34.760 complicit in racism, that they get this

01:17:37.340 emotional vulnerability, this guilt, this

01:17:39.380 shame, guilt and shame are the main ones

01:17:41.600 that they're playing upon.

01:17:42.680 And then they have to take this action.

01:17:44.960 And what do they do?

01:17:45.700 I take responsibility for it.

01:17:47.240 And they're crying and so on and so

01:17:48.920 forth, getting very emotional and trying

01:17:50.700 to induce emotional reactions and the

01:17:52.420 people watching it taking responsibility,

01:17:54.520 though, is showing commitment and learning

01:17:56.280 to identify as a person who thinks that

01:17:58.160 way.

01:17:58.640 That's exactly example.

01:18:00.500 An example of this.

01:18:04.060 James, the author of cynical theories,

01:18:07.660 he's also the co-founder of

01:18:09.260 new discourses dot com, where you can

01:18:12.480 have an open conversation and find facts

01:18:16.740 on all sides to try to find the truth.

01:18:21.120 I so admire you, James, and I know that

01:18:25.080 we've met before and I've had you on

01:18:27.240 before, but you and your colleagues are

01:18:29.340 remarkable because you don't necessarily

01:18:32.520 agree with me.

01:18:33.640 I don't know if you agree with me on

01:18:34.880 anything, but you guys have taken incredible

01:18:41.740 hits and been ostracized from your own

01:18:46.300 communities and for on on all sides.

01:18:50.780 And I I just admire your willingness to

01:18:53.980 stand for the truth and really seek the

01:18:56.980 truth no matter where it's found and no

01:18:59.220 matter what the cost is.

01:19:00.460 You're a rare person, James.

01:19:02.060 Thank you.

01:19:03.480 Thanks, Glenn.

01:19:04.320 I'll tell you, actually, people have asked

01:19:06.120 me ever since I came on before.

01:19:07.640 They said, you know, what's Glenn like?

01:19:10.220 Everybody's afraid, you know, going back,

01:19:11.840 you know, you have this aura.

01:19:12.900 And I said, you know, I don't agree with

01:19:14.700 him on a lot.

01:19:15.600 But to be honest with you, if I could

01:19:17.060 magically make one person be my next door

01:19:19.440 neighbor who you would never expect, it'd be

01:19:21.020 Glenn Beck.

01:19:22.260 Wow.

01:19:22.800 Wow.

01:19:23.880 Thank you, James.

01:19:24.780 He borrows a lot of stuff for bait goods,

01:19:27.180 though.

01:19:27.460 You got to make sure you guard your sugars

01:19:29.000 and your butters.

01:19:31.040 And and that would be good.

01:19:33.300 But my neighborhood wouldn't let somebody

01:19:34.980 like James Lindsay.

01:19:35.820 And James, thank you so much.

01:19:40.820 God bless you.

01:19:41.560 Thank you.

01:19:42.260 Yeah.

01:19:42.480 Take care.

01:19:43.260 That was nice.

01:19:44.160 You bet.

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01:23:03.560 We're glad you're here.

01:23:28.180 Ben Dominic is coming up next.

01:23:30.060 He's the co-founder of the Federalist.

01:23:33.060 The Federalist yesterday, we found

01:23:35.960 out thanks to MSNBC and NBC News that

01:23:41.020 the Federalist has been banned from

01:23:45.040 all advertisement from Google.

01:23:47.280 Now, Google later came out and said,

01:23:48.900 no, no, that's not exactly true.

01:23:50.620 They still have three days to fix it.

01:23:52.360 Oh, my gosh.

01:23:54.260 Well, you wouldn't believe how this

01:23:57.280 now system works.

01:23:59.040 Apparently, there's a there's an

01:24:02.640 outside of the country organization

01:24:05.640 that Google has hired to help them

01:24:09.760 make sure that they don't promote

01:24:12.140 hate or racism.

01:24:13.860 And this is a great little organization.

01:24:16.660 It's the Center for Countering Digital

01:24:19.440 Hate.

01:24:19.980 Oh, my gosh.

01:24:22.080 Wait until you hear the the CEO.

01:24:26.260 Amran Ahmed said that they found

01:24:30.560 advertisements for many companies

01:24:32.300 that had otherwise made public

01:24:33.620 statements supporting Black Lives

01:24:35.340 Matter and the recent protests

01:24:37.520 running on the Web sites that were

01:24:40.180 fostering hate like like Zero Hedge

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01:24:45.520 And I'm so glad they're looking out

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01:24:49.280 It sounds almost like another version

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01:27:26.180 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:27:34.080 You know, they say I'm paranoid for

01:27:37.620 saying that people are following me,

01:27:38.940 but people are following me.

01:27:41.620 There's no such thing as being

01:27:43.440 paranoid enough, I think, anymore,

01:27:45.380 especially if you are a conservative

01:27:47.460 in the media.

01:27:49.260 Yesterday, the Federalist, which is a

01:27:52.900 buttoned up website, the Federalist

01:27:56.180 was temporarily banned.

01:27:59.440 Now, Google said they were never banned.

01:28:01.020 It was never a problem.

01:28:03.440 Well, we'll find out in just a second.

01:28:06.900 But NBC reported that after some

01:28:11.420 collaboration, they finally got Zero

01:28:13.700 Hedge and the Federalist to be banned

01:28:16.240 from all advertising from Google.

01:28:19.100 That's a problem because Google controls

01:28:21.260 now, I think, about between, what, 60

01:28:23.220 and 80 percent of all advertising in the

01:28:26.220 United States.

01:28:27.280 They're the biggest ad agency in the

01:28:29.500 world now.

01:28:31.020 You don't get advertisements from

01:28:32.480 Google.

01:28:33.000 You don't usually get advertisements.

01:28:36.000 But we want to look into a little

01:28:37.980 bit on not only what happened, but

01:28:39.880 who is who's now advising on hate?

01:28:43.780 Thank you, NBC News, for bringing up

01:28:46.820 a really interesting subject.

01:28:49.420 Who is Google listening to and who

01:28:53.760 are they coming for next?

01:28:54.960 The co-founder of the Federalist in

01:28:56.680 one minute.

01:28:57.280 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:29:02.880 Somewhere in America, within the sound

01:29:05.380 of my voice, there's a man hunkered down

01:29:07.080 in the vast wilderness, peacefully

01:29:09.140 listening to a thousand harmonizing

01:29:11.040 voices, the sounds of God's good old

01:29:13.740 world waking up to yet another day.

01:29:17.020 On the fire before him sits the old tin

01:29:19.660 coffee pot that was made long before he

01:29:21.960 was born.

01:29:23.300 A little dinged and battered in a few

01:29:24.680 places, that's all right.

01:29:25.780 So is he.

01:29:27.080 As far as he's concerned, it adds

01:29:28.720 character.

01:29:31.000 The smell of that coffee rises up like a

01:29:34.520 warm daydream being gifted to all the

01:29:37.040 living things.

01:29:39.940 This is the life he's always wanted to

01:29:41.620 live.

01:29:42.300 He doesn't understand the city.

01:29:43.700 How can people live like that?

01:29:46.780 Packing out the camp and heading off to

01:29:48.520 the woods to see what there might be on

01:29:50.580 the other side of that mountain.

01:29:51.660 If he could pick how he could spend

01:29:54.260 eternity, he'd probably be doing that.

01:29:59.700 He'll spend his day walking comfortable

01:30:01.780 in a pair of Tecovis boots.

01:30:05.140 It takes 200 steps to make them all by

01:30:07.520 hand.

01:30:08.300 That seems about right to him.

01:30:11.420 Something with integrity.

01:30:13.900 Something that means something.

01:30:16.140 Something that lasts.

01:30:17.300 Find your pair of Tecovis at

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01:30:28.520 Western goods for your frontiers.

01:30:37.660 So I don't even know where to begin on

01:30:39.840 this story.

01:30:40.760 So I'm going to ask the guy who's

01:30:42.440 involved with this story to start us

01:30:45.380 off.

01:30:45.600 Ben Domenech, he's the co-founder of

01:30:47.400 The Federalist, the podcast host for

01:30:50.320 The Federalist Radio Hour.

01:30:52.320 And we want to talk about Google

01:30:54.860 attempting to demonetize his website,

01:30:58.440 The Federalist.

01:30:59.400 Ben, how are you?

01:31:01.080 I'm good.

01:31:01.960 In fact, I am talking to you wearing my

01:31:04.160 Tecovis right now.

01:31:05.440 So I did not.

01:31:06.220 Are you really?

01:31:07.580 Yes, I really am wearing them.

01:31:09.920 They're really great boots, aren't they?

01:31:11.720 They really are.

01:31:12.600 They're great.

01:31:13.260 They're wonderful.

01:31:14.240 You know what isn't wonderful?

01:31:15.480 Well, it's big tech and their animosity

01:31:19.440 towards anyone who conflicts with the

01:31:23.100 narrative.

01:31:24.480 Capitalize it.

01:31:25.300 And in this case, it really does look like NBC News irritated, perhaps, at our coverage

01:31:32.960 of their really, I think, terrible behavior over the last several couple of years, not

01:31:39.900 just hiding the truth about Matt Lauer and Harvey Weinstein, but also, of course, their

01:31:46.120 activity when it comes to the Russia collusion hoax.

01:31:48.940 And more recently, they're pretending that these riots and violence playing out across America

01:31:56.280 were in no way connected to the protests.

01:32:00.540 They attempted to come after us.

01:32:02.900 And I think that they really screwed up, Glenn, in a way that is backfiring.

01:32:07.900 I know for a fact that the top flight lobbyists at Google have been very active over the last

01:32:15.500 24 hours trying to prevent a crackdown from Capitol Hill.

01:32:19.840 And I think that we're going to continue to see this story play out over the coming weeks

01:32:26.120 and months, even, in terms of questions about what Google did, what they were intending to do.

01:32:32.940 And, you know, Glenn, it's a real canary in the coal mine moment of waking up the reality

01:32:39.460 that these tech companies are going to come for all of us, and they are going to do so in ways

01:32:45.520 that really go after anyone who questions the narrative that they have about the world that we live in

01:32:53.000 and the country that we love.

01:32:54.820 Ben, I tell you, I am preparing for the day that the only way to reach me

01:33:02.060 will be to go and type in the address glennbeck.com or theblaze.com, and even that is sketchy.

01:33:10.880 There will be no social media.

01:33:13.860 We will be demonetized everywhere.

01:33:17.820 And I think that day, Ben, could happen a lot faster than we think.

01:33:24.320 Look how much change has come in just the last, what, eight weeks.

01:33:30.260 We're an entirely different country, talking about things that we wouldn't even thought rational

01:33:36.720 eight months ago, six months ago.

01:33:39.680 You know, Glenn, I look across this country, and I believe that we're in very much a cultural civil war.

01:33:47.000 And, I mean, as you know, my wife, Babe McCain, is the only pro-life, pro-gun woman

01:33:54.420 employed by any main channel other than Fox News that is allowed on TV during the daytime.

01:34:03.560 And I don't speak for her, but she has been really woken up by everything that we've gone through

01:34:08.680 in these past several weeks.

01:34:10.180 And she has asked me repeatedly, you know, what do you think this looks like?

01:34:15.140 What do you think this is?

01:34:15.980 Where do you think this is going?

01:34:17.080 Do you think it's going to even be possible to be someone who is pro-life or pro-gun on TV

01:34:23.860 outside of these institutions?

01:34:27.560 And I've just told her, no, I don't think so.

01:34:30.080 I think that we are headed towards a moment where you have to have the total institutional support

01:34:35.400 of something that you've built, Glenn, or that I've built in the Federalist,

01:34:39.580 or that others have built that can be behind you 100% because otherwise they will take you down,

01:34:46.360 they will demonetize you, they will make it impossible to do your job because they hate you.

01:34:51.520 And it's, I mean, we would like to have a situation where we could have a negotiation,

01:34:57.880 where we could have a debate, where we could have a back and forth.

01:35:00.860 I mean, that's what we love as Americans who like debate.

01:35:04.280 And I know you love it, Glenn.

01:35:05.260 But that's not possible with a mob that wants to destroy you, that wants to erase you,

01:35:11.440 that does not believe you should be allowed any platform for your ideas if they conflict with the narrative.

01:35:20.240 So tell me what you think here about the NBC News.

01:35:24.640 I don't even know what she was, a researcher or a reporter.

01:35:28.120 New from, at NBCVC, thanks to FS Fake News and CCD Hate for their hard work and collaboration.

01:35:40.360 And what she was saluting was the fact that you and Zero Head would no longer be able to generate revenue

01:35:47.220 from any advertisements served by Google Ads.

01:35:51.600 Who is this person?

01:35:53.900 Well, first off, I've never heard of this person before.

01:35:56.180 She's a London-based journalist, and I do put that in quotes,

01:36:00.780 because I don't believe that she was acting as a journalist here.

01:36:04.980 She was clearly acting as an activist.

01:36:07.020 She was trying to be platformist, yes.

01:36:09.780 And working with a small leftist organization in the UK that attempted to come after us.

01:36:16.800 And Glenn, here's where I think they screwed up.

01:36:19.460 Here's the mistake they made.

01:36:20.540 I think that the gap of knowledge across the pond between America and the UK meant that they assumed we were some irrelevant blog

01:36:33.320 that they could frame as being racist or unacceptable.

01:36:37.600 When in reality, as you know, we are well-connected, well-respected in terms of the world of Washington,

01:36:45.080 in terms of our coverage, with people like Molly Hemingway and Sean Davis and others.

01:36:50.520 And so we had members of Congress and senators reaching out to us immediately.

01:36:55.520 Ted Cruz sent a letter this morning demanding to have some clarity from Google about what's going on.

01:37:01.740 And Josh Hawley, Tom Cotton, and Marco Rubio are introducing legislation to crack down on Google this morning.

01:37:09.360 I think that this is a moment where we are going to have to come to grips with the fact that these are the most powerful entities

01:37:15.100 controlling, as you said, an enormous percentage of the ad revenue, an enormous percentage of the conversation.

01:37:21.500 They are media companies, and they should be treated as such.

01:37:26.220 Yes, they are the public square now.

01:37:29.360 This is the public square.

01:37:31.160 And they control all of it.

01:37:33.720 And they said that their problem was with you.

01:37:36.660 It was not any of your reporting.

01:37:38.180 It was some of the comments made by people reading, which I want to know, have they demonetized YouTube?

01:37:45.960 Have they demonetized Facebook or Twitter?

01:37:50.060 Because...

01:37:50.660 Oh my God, Glenn.

01:37:52.680 Those are the most toxic comment fields that you can find.

01:37:57.100 Exactly right.

01:37:58.220 We took our comments section down for the moment because of this demonetization threat.

01:38:05.680 Comments will be back.

01:38:07.040 I am not going to let them bully us out of having those.

01:38:10.100 Personally, I don't really wade into comments.

01:38:12.680 I think that they're a little crazy.

01:38:14.060 But people blow off some steam there.

01:38:16.520 But my attitude is we should not have a situation where only people who are advocating for, again, a questioning of their narrative, this leftist narrative about what we're going through, they're the ones who have to respond for their comments.

01:38:34.040 Not the New York Times, not the Washington Post, not Mediaite, not YouTube, not any of these other places that they are perfectly comfortable with, Glenn.

01:38:43.260 And to me, this is a sign of how they will utilize their lackadaisical approach to rules where they just say, oh, well, if you are center right, then we're going to go down chapter and verse.

01:38:56.540 We're going to look through all these rules to find a way to screw you, to come after you, okay?

01:39:02.340 But if you are on the right side of the narrative, oh, that's fine.

01:39:06.960 That's just, you know, that's just debate.

01:39:08.700 We're letting that happen among your users.

01:39:10.580 It's ridiculous, Glenn.

01:39:11.820 It can't be allowed to continue.

01:39:13.720 And as you said, they have a monopoly on the public square at this point.

01:39:16.700 It's as if you had big paper, you know, like the inability to print anything other than what they allow.

01:39:25.440 So the organization that went after you was started by Amran Ahmed.

01:39:35.060 I have no idea.

01:39:35.960 Gosh, I'm sorry.

01:39:37.160 Yeah.

01:39:37.560 Anyway, he's a trustee of victim support, which sounds wonderful.

01:39:42.160 Sits on the steering committee for the Commission of Countering Extremism, the pilot task force there in London.

01:39:47.860 And that's wonderful.

01:39:48.960 He also authored the book, The New Serfdom, The Triumph of Conservative Ideas and How to Defeat Them.

01:39:55.700 He wrote that with a Labour Party MP, also a political advisor to the Labour Party.

01:40:01.760 They also have big, high-profile supporters, such as the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, who is not an extremist at all.

01:40:15.560 You have one of the secretary of the Labour Party.

01:40:21.440 You have several Labour Party activists, former speechwriter for Gordon Brown.

01:40:27.360 This is a far, far left organization.

01:40:30.500 I'm wondering where they get their money, but it sounds to me as if this is a London version of Media Matters that is doing exactly the same thing.

01:40:44.240 And they're hammering places like Google, and Google is listening to them.

01:40:49.220 One of the things that we have to be mindful of here, Glenn, is that these big tech companies, as many smart people as they employ, they're not very bright when it comes to these political matters.

01:41:04.520 And in this case, I think that they were easily manipulated by a bunch of lefties who decided to, in mass, report a bunch of our comments or other content that we had and basically say,

01:41:18.240 why are you, why do you have any ads on this site?

01:41:20.740 Now, I will say, Google Ads is not our primary source of revenue, thank Lord.

01:41:24.880 And so, you know, even if we had lost them, we would be fine.

01:41:28.300 But it's the sort of thing where it's more about the branding involved of saying, you know,

01:41:34.240 we're going to brand these folks as unacceptable for any ads to run.

01:41:38.660 And the left understands how to manipulate this scenario.

01:41:43.980 They understand how to go into these ad components, these communications shops, and put some things in front of them and say,

01:41:54.320 why are you running ads on this person's site or that person's site?

01:41:58.920 And from my perspective, the real situation here is we have the resources to fight back, but others do not.

01:42:05.000 There are tons of people out there, you know, small businesses and small blogs and individuals, professors and the like,

01:42:13.340 who could be demonetized by this, and they would not have the ability to get on the phone with Ted Cruz and say, we're going to fight back.

01:42:20.960 And that's the thing that I think we have to be really concerned about, because that's going to continue.

01:42:26.160 The left no longer believes in free speech.

01:42:28.280 They have ditched the old values of the ACLU.

01:42:30.720 They have ditched the Bill Maher, the Howard Stern of the 1990s.

01:42:35.000 They have thrown them aside.

01:42:36.680 They want to be platforming.

01:42:37.580 They're coming after Howard Stern.

01:42:40.240 Yeah, I know.

01:42:41.020 It's crazy.

01:42:42.500 It's insane.

01:42:43.400 Ben, thank you so much.

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01:46:43.160 Uh, Stu, can you believe how much we have changed in the last four months?

01:46:51.080 You believe, I mean, it's a different world.

01:46:56.180 It really, it really is.

01:46:58.520 You never would have expected.

01:47:00.380 I remember when you'd like just going into like the lockdown stuff.

01:47:04.140 I remember when it was happening in Italy and us having a conversation on the air about

01:47:07.540 how that could never happen here with American people would never accept it.

01:47:11.040 And then we were in the middle of it just a few weeks later and the whole world has changed.

01:47:16.020 And now you're to the point of where we're canceling pancake, you know, icons and syrup

01:47:20.740 icons, uh, over, you know, the racism that was involved in 1889.

01:47:26.320 Mrs.

01:47:26.860 Butterworth will get hers.

01:47:28.380 But so far, Aunt Jemima has been called out and, and PepsiCo has, has killed Aunt Jemima.

01:47:33.960 Well, not killed, but finally set her free from those syrup chains that she has been wielding

01:47:39.400 for so long.

01:47:40.800 Um, but, uh, I don't know about, uh, I don't know about Mrs. Butterworth.

01:47:46.480 What's happening with her?

01:47:47.460 Do we know?

01:47:48.120 We don't know.

01:47:48.580 Nothing.

01:47:48.860 Yeah.

01:47:49.020 She's trending on Twitter though.

01:47:50.320 So it should take another 15, 20 minutes until they abandon that one.

01:47:53.460 I've heard that.

01:47:53.800 I've heard that woman say things that would curl your hair.

01:47:58.520 Why do you think it's so different though?

01:48:00.340 Other than the syrup.

01:48:03.900 Um, I can't believe how fast it is.

01:48:06.920 It's happening.

01:48:08.080 And I just want to say this.

01:48:10.140 Can you imagine if the tea party wouldn't have stood up, how bad things would be?

01:48:17.300 Look how long we delayed things, how of the energy they had to put in.

01:48:23.820 We need to stand up again, gang.

01:48:26.000 We need to stand up again in peace and love and all of that crap, but we need to stand

01:48:31.840 up again because it's moving really rapidly.

01:48:35.700 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:48:39.120 All right.

01:48:40.260 So have you seen, uh, the fed?

01:48:42.560 They're now buying individual companies in stocks.

01:48:45.940 Oh my gosh.

01:48:47.040 That is fantastic.

01:48:49.020 Do you remember Stu?

01:48:49.920 Honestly, honest to God.

01:48:51.180 Do you remember when I was saying that they were going to do that?

01:48:53.760 They were going to just use the, uh, the printing press to print our way out and they would end

01:48:59.140 up buying all of our debt and they would go into the stock market and everybody said, they're

01:49:04.040 not going to do any of those things.

01:49:05.960 You crazy man.

01:49:07.460 Well, not so crazy now.

01:49:09.700 Am I?

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01:49:17.060 So you shouldn't buy gold.

01:49:18.440 Now they're saying it's not a problem that they are doing those things.

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01:50:14.260 From the Standing Rock Ranch.

01:50:25.400 Welcome.

01:50:26.400 It is the Glenn Beck program.

01:50:29.280 I just have to, again, just say a word here about somebody who, you know, I think is a danger

01:50:39.920 to the nation, but, uh, I mean, we're all human and, uh, my sincerest condolences on the loss

01:50:50.220 of, uh, Ilana Marr's father.

01:50:54.220 Uh, I know what it's like and, um, to lose your dad and your father-in-law on the same day.

01:51:04.060 I mean, Stu, I mean, don't try to bring me into this.

01:51:11.660 It's not even on.

01:51:12.500 I, I, I'm not, I, I'm not, no, I'm just saying that is, can you imagine how hard that would be?

01:51:18.920 To lose, to lose both on the same day?

01:51:23.740 My gosh.

01:51:25.440 You know, your, your sympathy is almost overwhelming and the sincerity of it is just powerful.

01:51:31.980 No, sincerely, I mean, I, I, man, it's, I can't imagine.

01:51:40.200 She's got to go to her father-in-law's, uh, funeral and I don't know if she can go, you

01:51:46.800 know, with others.

01:51:47.660 I don't know.

01:51:48.240 You know, did her brother get along with the father-in-law?

01:51:50.140 I don't know.

01:51:50.920 So can he go?

01:51:52.060 And the tension that would be there because you know, her ex-husband is going to be there.

01:51:58.200 Uh, so she's got to do that.

01:52:00.140 I don't think people understand what you're saying.

01:52:02.840 I don't know that you necessarily need to explain it further.

01:52:07.080 I think people, I think people get it.

01:52:09.460 You're thinking, you're thinking that I may have gone too far?

01:52:13.700 I just, I mean, could they have the funeral first?

01:52:16.920 I mean, I don't know if there's a, if there's a specific line.

01:52:20.420 Which one do you hold?

01:52:20.700 Which one is first?

01:52:21.660 I hope they don't conflict.

01:52:22.940 You are the worst.

01:52:29.000 Is this how you're dealing with the pain of life?

01:52:32.220 Because I know you go to dark places when.

01:52:36.040 Yes, it is.

01:52:37.080 I have the darkest sense of humor.

01:52:39.260 Anybody who listens to me, you know, you come up and you're, you're hanging out with

01:52:43.860 me and the family, all of the whole family.

01:52:46.240 We have the darkest sense of humor.

01:52:48.660 It's true.

01:52:49.260 And it has been the way people run.

01:52:51.040 Yeah.

01:52:51.600 And dealt with this over the years for sure.

01:52:54.140 Yes.

01:52:54.700 Yes.

01:52:55.080 And, uh, and, uh, usually people run in horror.

01:52:58.100 They're like, oh my gosh, they're like so dark.

01:53:01.560 Yes.

01:53:02.140 Yes, we are.

01:53:03.100 Yes, we are.

01:53:03.740 You know, the world is a dark place.

01:53:05.300 I don't know if you've noticed, most of it seems to be on fire as far as the country

01:53:09.840 goes and we're barely able to come outside of our homes.

01:53:13.120 Uh, the 20 million people are out of work.

01:53:16.520 There is a, there's a tad of a negative vibe I've noticed in America right now.

01:53:22.580 I don't know if, if you've noticed this same thing.

01:53:25.720 I have not.

01:53:26.940 No, no, no, I haven't a negative vibe.

01:53:30.760 I mean, just because we've been told that we are racists, we're a racist country.

01:53:36.940 Uh, we want to kill people who are different than us.

01:53:39.640 We hate all people.

01:53:40.560 We want them to die outside of hospitals without any kind of insurance, uh, that this country

01:53:46.180 never did any good.

01:53:47.500 Uh, it's always been bad.

01:53:49.180 We invented slavery.

01:53:50.320 That was the new one yesterday.

01:53:51.740 I mean, uh, why would you say that we would be a little testy or negative?

01:53:58.120 It's a great, it's a great question.

01:54:00.640 And I think you might be able to figure it out.

01:54:02.840 I'm always, I'm just amazed at the way that I can't, I still, I still am trying to figure

01:54:06.860 out whether I should say and send one bouquet of flowers or two.

01:54:12.280 Sorry for the loss of your dad and sorry for the loss of your father-in-law, but I don't

01:54:17.420 know.

01:54:17.620 I don't know which to do.

01:54:18.940 I mean, will I look cheap if I only send one?

01:54:21.780 So you have Adam Carolla on the show tonight.

01:54:23.460 That's a big, uh, I do have Adam Carolla.

01:54:25.940 It's a big, what are you going to talk to him about?

01:54:27.900 You seem like you're trying to, yeah, no.

01:54:30.640 It's actually, we're not talking about this, but we're talking about what he said last

01:54:33.560 week that he won't bow.

01:54:36.060 Uh, he's like, I'm not going to apologize for my whiteness.

01:54:39.640 I'm not going to apologize because I'm racist and don't know it.

01:54:43.140 I'm not going to do it.

01:54:44.440 And, uh, on tonight's, huh?

01:54:46.320 It'll be interesting to see.

01:54:47.540 I would like for you to ask for him if you have, uh, if you have time, because one of

01:54:51.400 the interesting parts about this, uh, this whole controversy, we talked about, you know,

01:54:55.280 they're canceling Aunt Jemima.

01:54:56.700 They're canceling all of these.

01:54:58.160 Cops has been canceled.

01:54:59.560 You know, live PD has been canceled.

01:55:01.800 All of these things.

01:55:02.920 You know, Paw Patrol's gone.

01:55:04.420 I, I hope not.

01:55:05.400 I stand with Chase, by the way.

01:55:06.680 Um, I mean, first of all, they'll be there on the double whenever you're in trouble.

01:55:10.300 So, I mean, that's an incredible guarantee right now.

01:55:13.780 That's who Seattle should call.

01:55:15.340 You've got, oh, you, somebody's robbing your business and burning it down.

01:55:18.820 Paw Patrol will be there.

01:55:19.960 Paw Patrol is better.

01:55:20.740 It's, it's more likely than the police because the mayor is going to stop the police from

01:55:23.740 doing the work that they want to be doing.

01:55:25.440 Yeah.

01:55:25.740 Um, but like one of the interesting things, and this gets brought up all the time is, is

01:55:29.920 a close friend of Adam Carolla's, Jimmy Kimmel on the same day that they're canceling

01:55:34.820 sketches on Netflix with blackface.

01:55:36.520 They're going through all of these things.

01:55:38.440 Um, Jimmy Kimmel was named a host of the Emmys, uh, yesterday.

01:55:42.580 I know.

01:55:43.020 And, you know, Kimmel, like, look, I, I, it's brought up a lot that Jimmy Kimmel did blackface

01:55:48.680 in his, in his impression of Carl Malone, usually as like, oh yeah, well, he should be canceled

01:55:53.400 too.

01:55:53.940 That's not how I feel about it.

01:55:55.480 I don't think this stuff, I think that this stuff is completely nonproductive.

01:55:58.860 Um, but you see this stuff.

01:56:00.820 Because you are a compassionate man, right?

01:56:02.680 You have, have you sent flowers?

01:56:06.640 You're a compassionate man.

01:56:07.960 You care about people.

01:56:09.400 And I know you care deeply about Jimmy, Jimmy Kimmel.

01:56:12.860 We have, I'm talking about Jimmy Kimmel now.

01:56:15.360 Uh, I would like you to ask, uh, Adam about that.

01:56:18.600 Cause he, cause I mean, Jimmy has played a role in this sort of cancel culture thing, which

01:56:23.920 is odd coming from him.

01:56:25.140 At least that's my impression of it.

01:56:26.480 And here's a guy who came up on the man show with Adam.

01:56:28.980 They did all sorts of things that you're not allowed to do on TV anymore.

01:56:32.880 I mean, that was the whole show and, you know, to see, you know, like I would think

01:56:38.240 that a Jimmy Kimmel would be constantly defensive of anyone who's taken out because of the material

01:56:43.840 they've done in the past.

01:56:44.820 And I don't know if that's, that's not, that's not for Adam necessarily to answer for

01:56:48.580 Jimmy, but I mean, there seems to be a big disagreement there.

01:56:53.020 Yeah.

01:56:53.500 As long as, I mean, I think people think as long as I play the game, I'll be safe.

01:56:58.520 I mean, they have no idea they're going to come for, to eat Jimmy Kimmel and all the

01:57:03.380 rest.

01:57:04.300 I mean, if you don't agree with everything, I mean, look what happened with the French

01:57:07.440 revolution.

01:57:08.020 It just kept mutating and getting worse and worse and worse.

01:57:11.000 And even Robespierre who started it, he became a traitor to the revolution because he

01:57:16.820 wouldn't hold up the ideals.

01:57:18.360 Well, the ideals keep getting worse and worse and worse.

01:57:21.500 I mean, that's not what we agreed on in the first place.

01:57:24.220 And that's, what's just going to happen.

01:57:25.800 It's just going to happen.

01:57:28.140 And, uh, you know, God bless him.

01:57:31.300 I'm sorry.

01:57:31.740 I'm just, Ooh, I am just so broken up.

01:57:37.140 Um, are you broken up because you're worried about how, uh, Senator Tim Kaine thinks the United

01:57:46.220 States created slavery?

01:57:47.640 Is that the thing?

01:57:49.140 Cause maybe we should play that clip.

01:57:50.320 No, I haven't played that clip yet.

01:57:51.380 No, I really, I don't know.

01:57:52.800 I really have that clip.

01:57:53.920 Do we have the clip of that?

01:57:54.780 Because I think we should play that clip.

01:57:56.520 We should just play it right now.

01:57:57.820 Just play it, play it quickly.

01:57:58.960 First African Americans and into the English colonies came to Point Comfort, Virginia in

01:58:03.800 1619.

01:58:04.560 They were slaves.

01:58:05.320 They've been captured against their will, but they landed in colonies that didn't have

01:58:09.720 slavery.

01:58:10.400 Okay.

01:58:10.620 There were no laws about slavery in colonies at that time.

01:58:14.140 What would they do?

01:58:15.260 The United States didn't inherit slavery from anybody.

01:58:18.100 We created it.

01:58:19.080 It got created by the Virginia General Assembly and the legislatures of other states.

01:58:23.660 It got created by the court systems in colonial America and sense that enforced fugitive slave

01:58:30.580 laws.

01:58:31.760 It was, we created it and we created it and maintained it over centuries.

01:58:37.060 And in my lifetime, over centuries, finally stopped some of those practices, but we've

01:58:43.380 never gone back to undo it.

01:58:45.520 Wait, in his lifetime, in his lifetime, which I knew it, I knew he was either an alien or

01:58:53.640 some sort of long living living lizard form.

01:58:57.040 But in his lifelong, in his lifetime, they've stopped.

01:59:01.460 We've stopped some of those practices.

01:59:04.380 Wow.

01:59:04.980 So he was around, you know, before Lincoln.

01:59:09.700 That's incredible.

01:59:11.100 The other thing is, I just want to point out, do you know how slavery started, Stu, here

01:59:18.640 in America?

01:59:19.300 Do you know how it actually began?

01:59:21.560 Oh, I certainly do.

01:59:22.300 In 1619.

01:59:23.720 That's what the 1619 Project told me.

01:59:26.520 No, that's really weird.

01:59:28.560 That's not what, that's no, uh-uh.

01:59:31.720 Indentured servitude.

01:59:32.980 Indentured servitude was something that has gone away a long time ago, but it was very

01:59:40.920 normal back in the day.

01:59:43.140 What would happen is if you, let's say, wanted to make a trip to America, you could become

01:59:48.640 an indentured servant.

01:59:49.740 And what that meant was somebody else would pay your way, but you would have to work those

01:59:55.720 wages off over a certain period of time.

01:59:59.040 And so they would provide room and board and also move you to the United States, but you

02:00:05.240 had a contract, an indentured servitude contract.

02:00:07.840 So every bit of your work you did went to pay your debt.

02:00:11.940 After a certain given time, that would be over and you would no longer, you could be on your

02:00:17.880 own and be your own person.

02:00:19.200 Well, here in the United States, there was a, uh, uh, an individual.

02:00:26.420 I hate to even point this out because everybody knows how evil white people are.

02:00:30.300 And there was an individual who, uh, had an indentured servant, uh, and he was brought

02:00:37.500 over, uh, to the United States, but he was a, he was not a slave.

02:00:42.240 He was an indentured servant and this white owner, uh, decided to go to court and say,

02:00:48.800 you know what?

02:00:49.220 He's been lazy.

02:00:50.340 He's been slovenly.

02:00:52.080 He's, uh, he's never really done any of his work.

02:00:56.260 I think I should be able to own him, uh, lock, stock and barrel.

02:01:01.280 He, I don't think I should ever have to release him.

02:01:03.400 He would be, uh, basically my slave.

02:01:06.940 And the judge agreed white people, except the guy who was.

02:01:12.240 Making that case was a black man.

02:01:14.140 The guy who actually put the first slave law into action was a black man.

02:01:23.720 The first man in America to own a slave was a black man.

02:01:30.440 So, uh, I guess that kind of puts a hitch in his knickers.

02:01:38.500 And I say that hitching his knickers only because he's been around forever.

02:01:43.360 He's just been around forever.

02:01:44.920 That's true.

02:01:45.460 I, I would, I would agree with that.

02:01:47.200 It's an interesting concept that we created it.

02:01:49.560 I had not heard that one before.

02:01:51.820 Uh, he is now clarified.

02:01:54.400 You know who, yeah.

02:01:55.960 You know who also didn't hear that Pharaoh?

02:01:59.180 He, no, he was like, wait a minute.

02:02:02.000 And I thought I was a pretty early adopter of this system.

02:02:05.220 Yeah.

02:02:05.780 Uh, but no Pharaoh.

02:02:07.080 Uh, I actually think I have the most amazing fact of that entire segment.

02:02:11.100 Cause there's a lot of them as you've unpacked, uh, several of them already.

02:02:14.640 But I think the most amazing part of that Tim Kaine, uh, monologue there is that, did you

02:02:21.540 know, uh, Tim Kaine was the democratic nominee for vice president in 2016?

02:02:28.960 Like he, he was on the ticket.

02:02:32.300 I swear with Hillary Clinton in the race that Donald Trump won.

02:02:35.800 No, you're mistaken.

02:02:36.740 No, I swear.

02:02:37.560 It's that guy.

02:02:38.600 No, she didn't.

02:02:39.340 No, she didn't have a running mate.

02:02:40.800 No, she did.

02:02:41.420 It was Tim Kaine.

02:02:42.600 People don't remember this because he's the lead.

02:02:45.160 He's the most forgettable person in human history, but he actually was on the ticket

02:02:49.180 as the vice presidential nominee in the last election.

02:02:54.520 No one knows this.

02:02:55.860 It's actually technically true.

02:02:57.980 And you would, you would think that Hillary would have had somebody, you know, competent

02:03:03.000 or new history at all.

02:03:05.160 Oh yeah.

02:03:06.500 That's a, you know what I mean?

02:03:07.880 You think Hillary, if Hillary is going to have somebody, it's got to be somebody

02:03:11.340 really, really, really good on American history.

02:03:14.580 But Tim Kaine, I'm going to check on that.

02:03:17.320 I don't think you're right, but I'm going to check.

02:03:18.980 Thank you so much, Stu.

02:03:20.380 And again, condolences.

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02:04:49.880 Wow, this is, this is great.

02:05:04.320 Uh, how to remove a racist statue, uh, the physics of taking down statues.

02:05:10.420 Um, should you happen to find yourself near a statue you decide you no longer like?

02:05:14.380 We ask scientists the best, safest way to bring it to the ground without getting anyone hurt.

02:05:19.540 Uh, and so they've, they said the physical approach, the force required to pull down a statue isn't as great as you think.

02:05:25.920 Uh, according to mechanical engineer, Scott Holland, most statues are bronze using an alloy of 90% copper and 10% tin.

02:05:33.420 Uh, and so they, they talk about how you can do it, but they also talk to you about how you could use liquid nitrogen.

02:05:40.060 If you drill a hole by the ankles and just fill it with liquid nitrogen, um, because then it'll be so cold.

02:05:46.560 It'll just break the ankles and the statue will come down.

02:05:49.160 And I really appreciate this, especially because, uh, it's from, uh, popular mechanics.

02:05:56.760 This is an article from popular mechanics.

02:06:00.240 Uh, wow, I guess everybody's getting into the act now.

02:06:12.980 I, I, I, I don't know how they're going to take the statue of Isabella and Columbus out of the state capital rotunda.

02:06:23.500 Now it's been there for like 135 years too.

02:06:27.040 Could you get popular mechanics on the phone?

02:06:28.800 See if maybe they could help us on that.

02:06:30.800 How do you get that out?

02:06:31.960 The lawmakers yesterday passed, uh, you know, passed a bill that would, uh, would get rid of that eyesore.

02:06:38.000 And, uh, that racist statement of queen Isabella, uh, and, uh, uh, and Columbus.

02:06:45.840 Dare I even say his name?

02:06:47.640 Really?

02:06:48.040 So amazed that how you just blow up the whole world, how bothered people are by a statue or a syrup bottle or a sketch comedy piece that they don't like.

02:07:01.080 Don't you have enough of a life to think about anything else?

02:07:05.340 Why are you so bothered by these things?

02:07:07.600 I don't understand.

02:07:08.580 Aunt Jemima sitting in my pantry.

02:07:10.960 Like the re just shouting her racial epithets at whoever walks into my pantry.

02:07:18.460 That's not, no, that's not what happened.

02:07:20.220 No.

02:07:20.500 And Mrs. Butterworth is, is she is even worse.

02:07:23.840 And I hope tomorrow that we will hear that Mrs. Butterworth is also been fired.

02:07:29.920 This is the Glenn.

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The Glenn Beck Program - June 17, 2020

The Woke Firings Begin ｜ Guests： James Lindsay & Ben Domenech ｜ 6⧸17⧸20

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