The WORST Serial Killer in American History (But No One Seems to Care) | Guest: Dr. Marty Makary| 9⧸16⧸19
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Summary
Ulrich Klopfer, who was 78 years old when he died, had carefully preserved body parts of 2,246 people that he had killed. This makes him by far the worst serial killer in U.S. history.
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Two weeks ago, a guy who was 78 years old, his name is Ulrich Klopfer.
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Well, he died, and then his family discovered something horrific hidden away in his property.
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He had carefully preserved body parts of 2,246 people that he had killed.
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You may not know his name, but the coroner's office in Wills County, Illinois, is requesting the removal of the bodies, help in removing the bodies.
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Police are investigating over 2,000 bodies, which makes him by far the worst serial killer in U.S. history.
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All on the property of this 78-year-old man who had been killing these people.
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Now, how is it that this story broke on Thursday?
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He was in Gary, Fort Wayne, and South Bend, Indiana.
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You probably haven't heard his name, at least linked to mass murder, because he was an abortion doctor.
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And his industry is defended tooth and nail by the press and by the left.
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He did have his medical license suspended three years ago.
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Three years ago, he had his license suspended for failing to exercise reasonable care and violating several notice and documentation requirements.
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You see, he was neglecting to report abortions he performed on two girls under 14.
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And it probably was just an oversight, I'm sure.
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I mean, what's a couple of 14-year-old girls when you've killed thousands of kids just another day at the office?
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Now, just like Kermit Gosnell, the Philadelphia butcher, whom the media was pleased to ignore,
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Dr. Klopfer's backyard, Mord, had 2,246 babies that will remain mostly anonymous, at least on a national scale.
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Here's a guy who was performing these abortions at home.
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Imagine, imagine if there was somebody who had a suspended concealed carry and just killed 10 people.
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Democratic Party has made it an airtight part of its platform,
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defending a woman's right to kill her unborn child,
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No matter what they're saying now, as we pointed out last week,
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Democrats will scream for justice for any persecuted group on the planet,
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During the testimony before the Indiana Medical Licensing Board three years ago,
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it was revealed that Dr. Klopfer had performed an abortion on a 10-year-old girl
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He was described by a Fort Wayne, Indiana paper
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as likely Indiana's most prolific abortion doctor in history,
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with numbers going into the tens of thousands of procedures
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The testimony during his medical board hearing revealed
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that he had been using the same abortion and sedation procedures
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He only gave pain medication to women under 16 years old
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He didn't have staff on hand to monitor the women he did sedate
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he boasted to the panel that he had never lost a patient in 43 years
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inspectors found multiple consent form violations
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between consent and procedure as required by law.
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They also found an unsanitized medical instrument,
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and staffers who took home the soil linen to wash.
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A clinic staffer explained that they were waiting
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The total blindness of abortion defenders is incredible.
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This is the kind of help that you're fine with?
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We found two of these monsters in the last couple of years.
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that respect the dignity of women and families.
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He buried almost 2,500 children in his backyard.
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world is changing and and I I hate to well no I
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very key role in keeping our dollar stable and I
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because the world is changing so let me give you a
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bit of history at the end of World War two Europe
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United States the USSR was pressing its military
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tied their currents their currency to the US dollar
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United States and the rest of the West got greedy
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and they said there's not enough gold to do all the
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things we want to do and so in 1971 Nixon closed
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which which meant if you had a dollar you could go
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in and get a dollar's worth of gold we were off
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the gold standard but what people didn't know at
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the time or most is that Nixon had a deal with the
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Saudi royal family your money had to be backed by
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something otherwise people what what good would
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it be why would you need the US dollar anymore in
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exchange Saudi Arabia agreed that we would that they
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would only accept US dollars for the purchase of its
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military support for the kingdom of Saudi Arabia so
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we would protect them and they would make sure that
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everyone who said hey yeah I'd like to buy a barrel
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oil for me had to do it in US dollars so that is why
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the US has the you know reserve currency around the
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rest of the world but that is beginning to change
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transfers close in US dollars and over 92% of all oil
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purchases occur in US dollars and it's been going this
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way for 50 years we've had an alliance with Saudi Arabia
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we ensure that their borders are safe they ensure that
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the US dollar is the primary currency used for financial
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transactions worldwide but something happened here in
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America something big happened about 15 years ago the
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roughnecks here in Texas in Colorado and Utah North
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Dakota Kansas they figured out a new way a new technique of
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now shale is oil that long ago dried into rock how do you
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take that rock and turn it back into oil well the process is
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called fracking fracking took hundreds of millions of cubic
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yards of earth and transformed it into energy we now have 1.8
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trillion barrels of oil here in the United States that's enough
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energy production for more than 1000 years of US energy production
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including any population growth for a thousand years we can be
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energy independent so what does that mean well now that we have the largest oil
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reserves oil production from the US has put a permanent cap on global oil prices
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unless there's a significant description describe a disruption in global oil
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supplies prices they say now we'll have a hard time getting over $70 a barrel if this
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would have happened in 2008 the price of oil could have gone up to $200 a barrel what
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are we looking at $65 a barrel it's up 20% now this is really significant for Saudi Arabia
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I want you to consider the following because we have the capability the US is keeping oil
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prices suppressed into the $55 $60 barrel a range okay Saudi Arabia is only profitable producing oil at
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about $80 a barrel so what does that mean more than 80% of Saudi Arabia's GDP is based in oil and
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energy production for comparison in the US less than 8% of our GDP relies on energy production
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they're 80 so a few years ago Saudi Arabia operated its first budget deficit since the 1950s they've been
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swimming in cash it's the only thing that has held that country together because everybody is rich
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but now they can't afford those things in 2016 they issued government bonds that means they took on
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government debt for the first time since the 50s to cover the budget shortfalls the government is now
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losing about 12 billion dollars a year and Israel you know has to raise their debt ceiling to cover
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those deficits in 2017 Saudi Arabia announced new plans under the crown prince that you remember
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him Mohammed bin Salman to take the Saudi Arabian oil industry Aramco and take it to an IPO they were
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going to modernize everything and they were going to let everybody invest but by 2018 that IPO was falling
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apart oil prices had fallen below 50 dollars a barrel and the IPO which they expected to raise nearly
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two trillion dollars was failing to receive any bids to raise even 50 billion there was one journalist
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who was out there saying this is crazy his plan the plan that the crown prince was pushing was
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vision 2030 for Saudi Arabia the guy who was the most outspoken about what he was doing with this IPO
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and Aramco was Jamal Khashoggi the guy who was murdered in Turkey
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as soon as he was murdered the IPO was shelved because now nobody wanted to buy anything from Aramco
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so fast forward earlier to this year Saudi Arabia and other OPEC nations announced to cut back oil
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production as a means to raise global prices and by summer they had succeeded in getting oil prices up
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to around 65 dollars a barrel but we came in and quickly came online and increased global supply
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to make up for the reduced OPEC production we couldn't do that before and by August oil prices were back to
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55 to 55 to 58 dollars a barrel remember Saudi oil has got to be about 80 dollars a barrel or they can't afford it
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so what happened three weeks ago and then what happened over the weekend and what does all of this mean for us
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in the United States in the future we'll continue in one minute
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so Saudi Arabia needed this IPO they needed foreign investment so three weeks ago
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they go back to the drawing board they go to JP Morgan that was the US bank that was leading Barclays
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Bank of Japan all of these banks had gotten together and said okay we'll put together this
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IPO well now 50% of oil production goes offline at an Aramco oil refinery
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it is a massive blow to Saudi Arabia and may completely derail the IPO
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that will have a devastating effect driving oil prices up at least in the short term
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but remember we can now come online with new production and make up for any shortfalls
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now the fact that this is at least reportedly by Yemeni militia who are backed by Iran means that
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there is a proxy war that's going on with Iran and Saudi Arabia they've been fighting it for the last
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few years and this has weakened one of America's most consistent and reliable party parties in keeping
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the US dollar as our reserve currency so what do we do because we can just unplug from Saudi Arabia
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but if we unplug from Saudi Arabia the world may unplug from our dollar
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it also shows us how desperate Iran is it's Japan 1940 you know most people don't understand
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that Japan was responding to us we sanctioned and isolated Iran we insulted I'm sorry not Iran Japan
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now we've done the same thing to Iran and their economy is crumbling we have stopped them from selling their oil
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in the open market which is something I believe we must do but all of this bears watching this may become
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the story of the last half of this year and might end up dominating global politics through 2020
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99% chance none of the Democratic candidates for presidency have any idea about how much history
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sits between us what how delicate it is between us and Saudi Arabia why we just can't pull the plug
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on Saudi Arabia every American should know this because it will affect us the question is where are you
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getting your news the question is what are they talking about today is anyone giving you a look at the globe
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because the globe is just starting to smoke everywhere the slightest breeze could inflame all of us
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setting the stage for what could be one of the biggest industrial disputes in the U.S. in recent years
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the UAW said yesterday that roughly 48,000 hourly workers at General Motors plants in the U.S. will go on strike
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they said yesterday they were going to go on strike today this would be the first GM strike in 12 years
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are they on strike yeah I mean they they are definitely on strike it's just it's unclear on how long this lasts
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and it's but they say nearly 50,000 workers okay so here is here is the deal GM said that they offered the union
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seven seven billion dollars in new investments fifty four hundred jobs most of them would be new
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modest pay increases improved benefits and contract ratification bonus of eight thousand dollars
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um I know there's a lot of workers in Ohio that are listening to us uh and I know you've worked really
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know this America buckle up buckle up buckle up because if they're on strike you have people
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that do to the national economy again somebody's got to put all of these puzzle pieces together
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so I want to tell you a couple of stories um this uh this last week we've been studying as a family
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we've been studying two corinthians two corinthians walking down the street one says
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no um we've we've been talking about um Paul and how he talked about you know you've you've got to
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forgive others um you are gonna have pain in your life but you know it's gonna it's all gonna be good
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and the one thing you really need to do is be a cheerful giver be somebody who is looking to do
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something good and and so we've been working on noticing people around us uh and and looking for
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opportunities to serve I want to give you two amazing stories first one Christopher Graham Antoine
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Garrett these two students they're at Martin Luther King uh college prep Memphis Tennessee
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they're two football team members both upperclassmen they saw this kid Michael Todd being teased for not
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having enough clothes to wear from school people were laughing at him bullying him um and uh he didn't
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wear his you know new shoes he wore the same clothing every single day he's just this poor white kid that
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you know kind of just kind of was in the hallway and was alone and not friends with anybody
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so here come these two black football players and these guys decide to do something about it now one of
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them actually teased him one day in class and he started feeling bad about it and so he said to his
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friend let's help him so they went out and they got him new sneakers new clothes some of the stuff that
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you know they had had and they approach him in the hallway and somebody has a cell phone and they record
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part of it this kid is stunned he doesn't even know what to do he doesn't smile he doesn't react I mean
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can you imagine being stopped by two people just out of the blue and the one kid said hey I I made fun
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of you and I feel really really bad about it and I I just want to make it up to you so I brought you
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some new clothes they both both brought in their backpacks new sneakers new clothes etc etc the kid
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doesn't say very much because I think he's really freaked out you have to wonder if it was a setup
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if you're this kid if one of the kids had already made fun of you for this you'd have to think yeah
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like what what the yeah is it a dress is it uh you know are they do they smell terribly what what is
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the what's the scam here but no scam no scam at all he said I want to get I want to give you the
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words that this kid in high school said he told them later that he had never received a gift like
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this ever in his life and that his mom had trouble buying him new clothes because I'm growing too fast
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quote you guys are the best guys of my entire life
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how awesome is that so when you and and I've been watching stories like this there is something that
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is happening that's really really good and we can't fail to notice those things
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now because I'm looking for things to help and maybe you are too I want to tell you this story
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Glittis and Mylene they're both from Cameroon they moved to Texas from Cameroon less than a year ago
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they came to America because they wanted a better life they have two daughters Gervina and Ivana
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five and seven years old the husband the dad joined the U.S. Army and has been serving in our military
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since the beginning of the year he's been away from his daughters for training for the last five months
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mom also works a family friend was watching the girls
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while dad was on military training mom was at work
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I don't want to get into the details I don't even know what the details are just careless thinking
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Gervina who is the youngest she's five years old she fell in to the family's apartment pool
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they were found unresponsive at the bottom with Ivana's arms wrapped around her little sister
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Ivana passed away that day the little sister the next morning
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a five-year-old just wanted to learn how to read like her older sister
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seven-year-old the last thing she told her father who was away
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the last thing she said to her father over the phone
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they say they just want to wake up from this nightmare but they accept that this is part of God's plan
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they don't even have any anger towards the family friend that was supposed to be watching them
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but they need to send their kids back to Cameroon for a funeral service
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funerals in Cameroon I guess are very expensive and they have to send the bodies of the two girls home
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the family is hoping to raise $20,000 to send the bodies back home
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and then provide a funeral service and both parents to fly back as well
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but here's two people that did everything right
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tackled two students engaged in a fist fight last week
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someone like that shouldn't be allowed on campus
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you know i'm so tired of uh listening to people who say
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they're not doing anything to actually get down to
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fixing things i i know i could get together with
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um maybe they should maybe they should pay attention
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uh just for a few minutes here the price we pay is the book
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hey glenn great to be with you thank you very much
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um i'm fascinated by the stories in in your book
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um let me there's one in the middle here let me grab this one i
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people living in rural states are getting hit the hardest sitting at home
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it was a little worse than the than the belly ache of everyday life at his local
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hospital the doctors told him this could be serious we're going to transfer
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you to the big city where they'll take care of you
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eight hours later afraid that no other options explained to him
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he was wheeled off an elevator and the nurse hit the h button for helipad
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the helicopter pilot was there greeted him he was loaded on a chopper for a 30
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minute ride to the city uh he arrived at the hospital peppered
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with medical questions assigned to wait in an emergency room beds were full
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they placed him on a stretcher in a hall he waited several more hours until the
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hospital's on call specialists saw him he repeated the battery of tests and
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hours later explained that john had no real reason to be in the hospital and he
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bill of sixty thousand dollars just for the helicopter
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and um that's when he reached out to you tell me what happened marty
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glenn is that they are taking advantage of people at a time when they're most
01:50:16.420
vulnerable we've lost our mission you know i took on that case
01:50:19.640
and i've been defending cases on behalf of patients around the country
01:50:23.420
patients who have been sued to have their paychecks garnished i mean
01:50:27.980
everyday hard-working americans who already spend
01:50:31.140
a boatload between their taxes of good health care and their health insurance
01:50:37.800
and now they're getting assaulted with these bills and
01:50:41.160
and hospitals are terrorizing their communities with
01:50:48.000
the great public trust of american medicine and most hospitals were built by
01:50:54.080
churches people forget that they were there for their communities
01:51:04.320
he was here had a mild heart attack the american hospital told him it would cost
01:51:09.000
him about 150 000 they said we're going to call our doctor in france
01:51:13.220
they asked how much is this in france they said 15 000
01:51:16.440
when they told the american hospital that the american hospital said
01:51:20.160
oh well we can do it for 25 and it was it so bothered them
01:51:29.160
you know that they would be quoted something 150 000
01:51:37.700
well because we have no price transparency we don't have
01:51:44.540
i mean if airlines build us glenn after the flight can you imagine that
01:51:48.880
they'd be gouging us right if you went to expedia or travelocity or these sites
01:51:58.240
they might argue they can't predict the price because they don't know if we're
01:52:01.400
going to consume a beverage or the flight could be delayed
01:52:04.680
and you know for 50 years hospitals have been telling us they can't give us a price
01:52:12.440
uh i can't show up and mow your lawn and then send you a bill for four thousand dollars
01:52:17.440
yeah i don't understand i don't understand and i think it's just because of the health care
01:52:22.240
industry itself i'm sorry the uh insurance industry
01:52:25.720
um where we haven't been required to shop around but i don't know why i can't go in and say hey
01:52:32.720
i have to have the tonsils removed how much is that assuming things are normal how much is that
01:52:39.180
uh and i want to go check another hospital and find out how much it is over there
01:52:43.160
it's ironic that american university hospitals like the one i work at johns hopkins
01:52:48.460
it is the center of scientific genius in america but we can't give you a price
01:52:54.080
and that is starting to change i want to let people know there are bright spots and i highlight
01:52:59.120
the disruptors in this new book people like dr smith at the surgery center of oklahoma posting
01:53:05.020
a menu of prices we've already seen three little areas of health care move to transparent pricing
01:53:10.320
and that's ivf therapy it's lasik surgery of the eye and it's some types of cosmetic surgery guess
01:53:17.580
what all of those procedures have had a global reduction in prices over time in competitive markets
01:53:24.020
this lasik surgery is the quintessential example they're operating on your eye and in it because
01:53:35.020
it is private the price keeps going down when everything else is going up is there any other
01:53:41.780
reason other than this is just the market well the politicians and we're watching it right now with
01:53:47.900
these democrat candidates running but you know it's all politicians they talk really about how to
01:53:52.540
finance our broken health care system we need to talk about how to fix it and the story that no one
01:53:59.960
is talking about that we need to talk about is pricing failures middlemen and inappropriate care
01:54:07.340
and if we talk about those things glenn i i bet you there is broad consensus in the united states
01:54:13.300
contrary to what cable news would give us as a a false paradigm we don't need to just talk about how
01:54:19.320
to finance the broken system we need to talk about how to fix it okay so so tell me about prescription
01:54:24.760
drugs because prescription drugs is something that you know everyone will say and in even you know
01:54:31.060
they'll say that you know we're we're paying too much the same people who say the wealthy should pay
01:54:36.740
the lion's share of things have a problem that the wealthiest country on earth pays more than the
01:54:43.020
rest of the world insurance companies will say we we won't be able to you know come up with these drugs
01:54:48.940
if america isn't paying higher prices true false what's the story on that well um just like the movie
01:54:57.900
the big short took a very complicated industry and broke it down in very simple terms so anybody could
01:55:03.720
understand it that's what i try to do with the middlemen of the pharmacy world for example pbms are
01:55:10.300
pharmacy benefit managers they're middlemen and they put a gun to the head of pharma and they say
01:55:17.340
look if you want us to carry your drug pay us a play to fit play fee and those fees or kickbacks
01:55:24.940
are called rebates now these are not like rebates on cornflakes these are middle money games and
01:55:31.500
employers can actually choose a pbm that will not play the rebate game and businesses across america are
01:55:38.280
getting ripped off on their pbms every business has a pbm for their employees and they're getting
01:55:44.740
ripped off and i show how businesses can renegotiate these pbms because the money games are out of
01:55:49.560
control wait so how are they getting ripped off so um a broker will typically sell a pharmacy plan or a
01:55:56.240
pbm plan to a business just like they sell health insurance to a business those brokers get five percent
01:56:02.740
flat commission and kickbacks some of which are undisclosed and then they're selling these products
01:56:07.920
that price gouge the employers because the pbms are charging the employer and the employee through
01:56:14.180
a copay for the drug well the employers aren't keeping track they don't know the names and doses
01:56:18.860
of these drugs so the employers get gouged and that is the game of the pbms we're the only country in the
01:56:25.540
world that has pbms we didn't have them 30 years ago that's why you're seeing insulin spike in price
01:56:32.160
and drugs that have been around for 50 years are now suddenly uh expensive and sometimes in shortage
01:56:38.460
because we've given market dominance through these pay-to-play kickbacks so so what should
01:56:45.340
washington be doing well we saw um secretary azar and the current administration propose that all these
01:56:53.620
rebates or kickbacks have to be passed through 100 to the patient the swamp of the special interests
01:56:59.900
crushed that proposal it got no support in on capitol hill and i think people need to hear from
01:57:07.860
everyday listeners out there the the members of congress are hearing from all the stakeholders in
01:57:13.740
health care who are all trust me making a ton of money except for one the patient so we need to ban
01:57:21.300
kickbacks in health care we need to get rid of secrecy and i think it's that simple it's like a
01:57:26.280
pothole it's not a blue red democrat republican issue when there's a pothole it's it's a matter
01:57:33.620
of competence it's a matter of understanding how things work and i think there's broad consensus
01:57:39.580
how much worse are things going to be if we go to a some universal system well we have a new study out
01:57:47.760
today glenn that is published in i wrote a piece in usa today showing that our new study from johns
01:57:54.320
hopkins shows that we spend as a on a federal level of all federal spending in the united states by the
01:58:01.160
federal government 48 of all spending is going to health care right now in all of its hidden forms
01:58:08.700
okay it's crazy think about that next time you fire filed your taxes and so what is this medicare for
01:58:16.460
all um what are these people proposing we increase that to 70 90 percent people forget it's not just
01:58:25.020
our federal spending on medicare and medicaid it's people are using their social security checks now
01:58:31.580
for their medicare co-pays we have a giant va health system the defense department has a health care system
01:58:38.120
and we pay pay health insurance benefits for nine million federal workers and their families and
01:58:44.180
retirees and interest on the debt is in part interest on the health care spending debt so half of our
01:58:51.160
federal spending right now is going to health care we don't need to just pour more money into this we
01:58:56.600
need to cut the waste look we all want health care for everybody in america who doesn't want that
01:59:02.640
but pouring more money into this broken system is not going to get us there we already spend enough
01:59:09.080
money to give everybody gold-plated health care we just need to cut the waste
01:59:13.280
uh doctor i appreciate uh the conversation and i really appreciate the book it's really easy to read
01:59:21.080
it makes it um it makes it very relatable because we all have either been through these stories
01:59:26.840
or uh you know or know somebody who has and i appreciate the way you're looking at this
01:59:32.800
uh the name of the book is the price we pay what broke american health care and how to fix it
01:59:39.500
you might want to send it to uh your favorite congressman senator or presidential candidate
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welcome to the uh program we're just talking about the opioid crisis and it's something we
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should get into because of of purdue pharmaceuticals now going uh you're going to declare bankruptcy
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it's amazing i i the way this story has come down look we know there's a huge problem with
02:01:51.820
opioids it's legitimately been a massive health crisis and you know you you need to correct that
02:01:56.860
but the idea that you can just blame this one family for all of this is insanity not only did
02:02:04.140
the entire scientific community but also several government agencies all believe that these the
02:02:11.520
new kind of opioids that came out from purdue and and others by the way they were not the only ones
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um the the idea that the con the the consensus was they were going to be less addictive so we
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shouldn't the previous i should tell the story tomorrow of the family let me tell the story have
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you heard the the family story have you heard the whole thing yeah it's pretty it's pretty interesting
02:02:33.240
it's really fascinating so let me tell the story of the family uh and you will see why everybody's
02:02:39.940
going after their throats however i'm really sick and tired of hearing people say opioids are you know
02:02:46.720
the worst ever no opioids have helped me many times in my life and i'm not alone they're fentanyl
02:02:55.760
if you are at the end of your life and you're in agonizing pain fentanyl is good when fentanyl is bad
02:03:05.300
is when you are not at the end of your life you know what i mean uh or you don't know what it is and
02:03:14.020
you're just taking it it can kill you same with opioids you you each of us have to be responsibility
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you're not a slave yeah and this goes down every little level of this right you know no pharmaceutical
02:03:29.420
company writes a prescription for anybody yeah but they advertise yeah but they advertise that's
02:03:35.960
like what are we talking about here doctors write prescriptions for their individual patients
02:03:40.500
they if they decide that that's the best thing for their uh for their patient then that is their
02:03:49.120
decision the patient can decide whether to take that or not the the company yes can try to push and
02:03:56.020
recommend just like every other aspect of our society right bud light constantly is telling me
02:04:00.820
i should drink bud light it's up to me whether decide to go and buy it it's up to the person at
02:04:06.040
the register whether i'm of age and and it's appropriate to sell it to me all like they act
02:04:11.700
as if this one family this evil it's so much easier to say oh the sackler family they're like the
02:04:17.380
coke brothers they do they're responsible for everything that's bad it's like it is an inane reading of
02:04:23.220
what actually occurred to blame this one family for this problem and that that's what they're
02:04:28.500
that's what everybody's doing that is what we want we want this easy villain yeah and just we just if
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we can just get them and make them pay for what we did what we did back with more on tomorrow's
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