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00:01:02.000 Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

00:01:04.000 A lot to get into.

00:01:06.000 We've got the Palestinian situation, you know, with Israel.

00:01:10.000 It's actually, you know, these Palestine protesters, the Hamas,

00:01:14.000 as we like to call them on my show, the Hamas holes,

00:01:18.000 they're making some progress.

00:01:22.000 They're making some headway.

00:01:24.000 And so tell you what some of that headway is and who's caving in to their demands.

00:01:30.000 Also, Donald Trump on trial again today.

00:01:34.000 It's a lot to get into.

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00:02:46.000 Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

00:02:48.000 Glenn is getting eye surgery today?

00:02:51.000 He is.

00:02:52.000 He is.

00:02:53.000 So yeah, our thoughts and prayers are with him for sure.

00:02:56.000 So probably today and tomorrow and then hopefully take the weekend and be back on Monday.

00:03:01.000 That is the belief.

00:03:02.000 That's what we think.

00:03:03.000 Currently, yes.

00:03:04.000 Currently what we're going by.

00:03:06.000 So yeah, your thoughts and prayers.

00:03:08.000 We greatly appreciate it.

00:03:10.000 It looks like there are some universities, Sacramento State and others who have caved in to the demands of the protesters now.

00:03:20.000 And great.

00:03:21.000 Have agreed to completely divest from Israel.

00:03:25.000 Hmm.

00:03:26.000 It's an interesting request.

00:03:27.000 Isn't it though?

00:03:28.000 Yeah, it is.

00:03:29.000 Divest from Israel.

00:03:30.000 Now, if you were to say divest from defense corporations that are funding munitions that Israel is using.

00:03:40.000 Mm hmm.

00:03:41.000 You might say, OK, well, they're against the war.

00:03:43.000 Remove all of my holdings from Raytheon.

00:03:45.000 Right.

00:03:46.000 For instance.

00:03:47.000 You could say, well, they're against the war.

00:03:48.000 They don't like that type of stuff.

00:03:50.000 Yeah.

00:03:51.000 They, you know, divest me from any or divest the university from any company that is currently supplying the troops in Israel.

00:04:02.000 Mm hmm.

00:04:03.000 It might be something that you could make the argument.

00:04:05.000 Yeah.

00:04:06.000 You are against this military effort.

00:04:08.000 You don't like what they're doing there.

00:04:09.000 Yes.

00:04:10.000 When you just say, I don't want to be involved with the Jews.

00:04:14.000 How does that have anything to do with this effort?

00:04:17.000 Because, I mean, I would imagine, I mean, we've seen some polling to this effect that, I don't know, somewhere a quarter, a third of Israeli citizens are not on board with all the stuff that they're doing in Israel.

00:04:29.000 Yeah.

00:04:30.000 Like many of them are like, just like it is here.

00:04:31.000 Many of them don't agree with everything that's going on there.

00:04:34.000 Yeah.

00:04:35.000 You're not going to get 100% support on anything.

00:04:37.000 But they also, their companies also get divested from.

00:04:40.000 Yeah.

00:04:41.000 Seems like maybe there's just a problem with Jews generally, rather than it's being specifically about this war in Rafa, which just seems like a, or anywhere, I guess, in Gaza.

00:04:55.000 Seems just like an excuse to say they don't like Jews.

00:04:58.000 Because when this effort was much more in its infancy, these same groups were asking for the same stuff.

00:05:03.000 In fact, before October 7th, many of these same groups were asking for the same stuff.

00:05:08.000 Mm-hmm.

00:05:09.000 It's almost like, Pat, it's not about the war at all.

00:05:12.000 What?

00:05:13.000 Yeah.

00:05:14.000 I have these weird thoughts sometimes.

00:05:15.000 What?

00:05:16.000 That is a strange thought, Stu.

00:05:18.000 Let me run this by you, Pat.

00:05:19.000 Okay.

00:05:20.000 I shouldn't even be admitting to this because it's so strange.

00:05:22.000 It's such a strange thought.

00:05:23.000 Mm-hmm.

00:05:24.000 Like, a lot of people have been talking about how we have to give aid to people in Palestine.

00:05:29.000 Mm-hmm.

00:05:30.000 You know, the Palestinian territories, Gaza must be, the aid must come, and it must come from the United States of America, and these poor people just need aid.

00:05:39.000 And that's what this is about.

00:05:40.000 Right.

00:05:41.000 Helping these people eat.

00:05:42.000 Do you want children to starve to death, Pat?

00:05:46.000 I don't.

00:05:47.000 You don't.

00:05:48.000 So, when the Americans spend 350 million of your taxpayer dollars to build a giant raft off of the side of the coast of Gaza.

00:06:03.000 Yeah.

00:06:04.000 To deliver food to the people of Gaza.

00:06:07.000 And the response to that is that missiles keep getting fired at it.

00:06:12.000 Do you think it's about the food really?

00:06:15.000 Mm-hmm.

00:06:16.000 Because I don't.

00:06:17.000 Doesn't seem to be.

00:06:18.000 Yeah.

00:06:19.000 Yeah.

00:06:20.000 In our effort to provide them humanitarian aid in the Gaza Strip, Hamas is firing rockets at that pier that we're building.

00:06:30.000 Yeah.

00:06:31.000 Right now.

00:06:32.000 Yeah.

00:06:33.000 So.

00:06:34.000 That's weird.

00:06:35.000 Yeah, isn't it?

00:06:36.000 That is weird.

00:06:37.000 And, you know, the other part about this is, as you know, Israel is in the midst of committing a genocide.

00:06:41.000 Mm-hmm.

00:06:42.000 A genocide, Pat.

00:06:43.000 Mm-hmm.

00:06:44.000 They are really bad at it.

00:06:47.000 Really bad.

00:06:48.000 They are terrible at genocide.

00:06:50.000 Yeah, they are.

00:06:51.000 For example, this pier that we're building to give aid, you would think that it would be important to give aid to a population you were trying to commit genocide on.

00:07:01.000 But we are putting that pier there.

00:07:03.000 And, as you know, Pat, we will not put boots in the ground.

00:07:07.000 Right.

00:07:08.000 We will not.

00:07:09.000 That's why we're pulling up to the shore and we're letting the IDF come in and do the last few feet of this pier to make sure that they can get the aid, which is weird because the IDF, my understanding was they were committing genocide.

00:07:22.000 Yeah.

00:07:23.000 Why would they be interested at all in supplying aid and helping this pier come to its fruition?

00:07:30.000 I'm very confused by all of this.

00:07:33.000 It's almost like someone's misleading us on this topic.

00:07:35.000 It's almost like that.

00:07:36.000 You know it can't be that.

00:07:37.000 No.

00:07:38.000 But you're right.

00:07:39.000 It's almost like that.

00:07:42.000 Strange.

00:07:43.000 Isn't it?

00:07:44.000 Strange.

00:07:45.000 But when you bring these things up to the dummies who are protesting on all of these campuses across the country, all they want to say is,

00:07:53.000 Free Palestine!

00:07:54.000 Free Palestine!

00:07:55.000 Yeah.

00:07:56.000 Well, we're trying to tell you that it's a little more complicated than that.

00:08:00.000 I don't know.

00:08:01.000 And wouldn't you argue, again, another crazy point here, Pat.

00:08:05.000 Let me just go out on a limb once again because I've been out here already.

00:08:08.000 It's almost like I'm on a pier outside of Gaza.

00:08:10.000 I'm way out on the pier on this one.

00:08:13.000 But it seems to me getting rid of Hamas is the best way to free Palestine.

00:08:20.000 If you really care about the people in Gaza, and if you get rid of Hamas, maybe they have a chance at a legitimate life.

00:08:30.000 Mm-hmm.

00:08:31.000 Instead of one where they're being overrun by terrorists all the time and causing things like this.

00:08:36.000 Because it was they who crossed the border of this, you know, quote unquote border inside of a country.

00:08:43.000 But they crossed a giant fence that was put up and they started executing Jews right across the fence and started massacring people at a music festival and started decapitating babies.

00:08:56.000 People, by the way, who were at a festival of peace.

00:09:00.000 Peace.

00:09:01.000 A festival that was calling for peace with Palestine.

00:09:04.000 Yep.

00:09:05.000 Many of the people, Pat, who lived near this border lived there because they were essentially, if you will, the hippies of the Israeli culture.

00:09:12.000 Yeah.

00:09:13.000 Who were like, hey, we need to help these Palestinians.

00:09:14.000 We need to stop being so mean.

00:09:16.000 It was those people who got slaughtered.

00:09:19.000 You were in the meeting, Pat, weren't you?

00:09:21.000 Didn't you sit for the footage?

00:09:22.000 Yes.

00:09:23.000 They brought in here.

00:09:24.000 I did not.

00:09:25.000 I'm too much of a wuss.

00:09:26.000 What happened to these people?

00:09:27.000 Mm hmm.

00:09:28.000 What would the United States of America do if that occurred on our Canadian border?

00:09:34.000 What would our Mexican?

00:09:36.000 What would we do if a country did that to us?

00:09:40.000 We would relentlessly attack them.

00:09:42.000 I hope under Biden.

00:09:44.000 I'm not sure.

00:09:45.000 Right.

00:09:46.000 But normally we would we would attack them until we finished them off.

00:09:50.000 I, you know, until we finished off whatever group it was, we held responsible for doing that.

00:09:55.000 Mm hmm.

00:09:56.000 Just as Israel has vowed to do with Hamas.

00:09:59.000 They should continue to to fight this war until Hamas is eliminated.

00:10:05.000 If it was Al Qaeda and they were on our border and we knew where they were.

00:10:09.000 Is there any chance we stop and just say, OK, yeah, we've done enough here.

00:10:13.000 We killed a few thousand of you, but we're not going to finish the rest of you.

00:10:17.000 Uh, come on.

00:10:18.000 You absolutely not.

00:10:19.000 You have to finish the job here.

00:10:21.000 Of course you do.

00:10:22.000 You have to.

00:10:23.000 And yeah, these college students, it would be interesting to see what would happen if

00:10:28.000 that occurred in the United States of America.

00:10:30.000 And Pat, like I'm going out on the pier again.

00:10:33.000 Let me go out on the pier one more time.

00:10:35.000 I know I'm out there.

00:10:36.000 I realize I'm all out here alone with crazy talk.

00:10:40.000 But if October 7th never occurred, they should still have gone in and wiped out Hamas.

00:10:47.000 Mm hmm.

00:10:48.000 They should still have done the same stuff they're doing now.

00:10:51.000 None of this ever.

00:10:53.000 Because October 7th should never have occurred if they if they Israel had gone after Hamas in the way that you would.

00:11:02.000 We would go after an internationally recognized terrorist group working within our borders.

00:11:07.000 Mm hmm.

00:11:08.000 Like if if Al Qaeda just had New Mexico and we're like, ah, we've got a fence.

00:11:15.000 Like that's enough.

00:11:16.000 I know they're firing rockets over the wall a lot and stuff.

00:11:19.000 And yeah, sure.

00:11:20.000 You know, they they hit Salt Lake last week and and they hit Albuquerque.

00:11:25.000 Or excuse me, you know, I don't know, Texarkana, whatever.

00:11:29.000 I don't know what they were firing at.

00:11:31.000 Something to go over the border.

00:11:32.000 Mm hmm.

00:11:33.000 We would not be like, eh, but there's a wall there.

00:11:37.000 And they look Al Qaeda was rationally and fairly elected by the people of New Mexico.

00:11:43.000 So we have to let them have self-determination.

00:11:45.000 No, no, no.

00:11:47.000 It should never have come to this in the first place.

00:11:50.000 And, you know, the last estimate I heard, which is probably a month or so ago, was that there's about 40,000 active members of Hamas before October 7th.

00:11:59.000 And that they had taken out 26,000 of them already.

00:12:03.000 Wow.

00:12:04.000 Which is pretty freaking impressive.

00:12:05.000 Yeah.

00:12:06.000 If that's true, there's 14,000 hiding largely in Rafa.

00:12:10.000 Got to go get the job done.

00:12:12.000 Finish the job.

00:12:13.000 Got to go get the job done.

00:12:14.000 Go in there and you get as many of those as you can.

00:12:16.000 And you end this forever.

00:12:18.000 And if you don't do this, you're not like Netanyahu would not be doing his job as if just the same way that Joe Biden would be doing his job.

00:12:27.000 If Al Qaeda took over New Mexico, it would be completely absurd to just leave them there.

00:12:33.000 It's it's nuts.

00:12:34.000 Right.

00:12:35.000 In every way.

00:12:36.000 Look, the fact that the people, by the way, the innocent and let's call there are some people in Palestine in the Palestinian territories in Gaza who are not Hamas supporters.

00:12:46.000 The number is incredibly small, but they do exist.

00:12:51.000 And those people very well might be victimized first by Hamas and now by a war going on all around them.

00:12:57.000 That is that's really sad.

00:12:58.000 It sucks.

00:12:59.000 We know that some aid workers have been killed.

00:13:01.000 That's terrible.

00:13:02.000 War.

00:13:03.000 War is awful.

00:13:04.000 It's an awful thing.

00:13:06.000 You shouldn't want to do it.

00:13:08.000 However, sometimes you have to do it.

00:13:10.000 And that is where we are.

00:13:11.000 You know, they're like, oh, well, there are there are famine.

00:13:15.000 It's a famine in the north right now.

00:13:17.000 A famine.

00:13:18.000 There are famine conditions going on.

00:13:20.000 No one's supposed to be there.

00:13:24.000 It doesn't matter if there's a famine in a place where there are no people.

00:13:29.000 But some people like Hamas members didn't evacuate.

00:13:34.000 So they're still there.

00:13:36.000 And I'm sure life does suck in the area they're not supposed to be.

00:13:40.000 You know where else there's famine?

00:13:42.000 Princeton.

00:13:43.000 Princeton University.

00:13:44.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:13:45.000 Yeah.

00:13:46.000 No.

00:13:47.000 I heard Ilana Omar at Columbia was having her issues.

00:13:50.000 Or Ilana Omar's daughter.

00:13:51.000 Yeah.

00:13:52.000 She was starving and homeless.

00:13:53.000 Right.

00:13:54.000 But now this is happening, too?

00:13:55.000 This is happening at Princeton.

00:13:56.000 It's happening to a certain extent at the University of Pennsylvania.

00:13:59.000 I mean, these Ivy League schools are experiencing famine right now.

00:14:03.000 And we need to do something about it.

00:14:04.000 Thank you.

00:14:05.000 There needs to be humanitarian aid to get to these people that are experiencing this famine.

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00:15:55.000 Well, students at Ireland's prestigious Trinity College, Dublin, ended their five-day-long protest against Israel's war with Hamas in Gaza after their demands were met by the university leadership.

00:16:20.000 Oh, great.

00:16:21.000 Isn't that great?

00:16:22.000 Isn't that wonderful?

00:16:23.000 You do negotiate with terrorists.

00:16:25.000 You do.

00:16:26.000 Yes, you do.

00:16:27.000 That's the saying, right?

00:16:28.000 Yes.

00:16:29.000 You do.

00:16:30.000 The new saying is, yes, you do negotiate with terrorists.

00:16:32.000 Great.

00:16:33.000 Yeah.

00:16:34.000 Now, I don't know, has this group, what's been the story with this one, Pat?

00:16:37.000 Has this one been one of the more violent protests?

00:16:38.000 No.

00:16:39.000 Has this been one of the more calm ones?

00:16:40.000 No.

00:16:41.000 And it's only been going on for five days and they're already caved.

00:16:43.000 So five days of tents?

00:16:44.000 Five days.

00:16:45.000 Is it a tent situation?

00:16:46.000 Is it just a...

00:16:47.000 It is a tent situation.

00:16:48.000 Yeah.

00:16:49.000 You can't have a tent around there, around the university in Dublin.

00:16:53.000 That would be egregious and intolerable.

00:16:57.000 So...

00:16:58.000 And my understanding, Pat, is when you saw the first tent go up, what you do is you take

00:17:01.000 it down.

00:17:04.000 Really?

00:17:05.000 Yeah.

00:17:06.000 You go then take that one down.

00:17:07.000 Then you...

00:17:08.000 Oh, okay.

00:17:09.000 You do take that one down as well.

00:17:10.000 You throw it away.

00:17:11.000 Okay.

00:17:12.000 Yeah.

00:17:13.000 Huh.

00:17:14.000 So they can't put it back up.

00:17:15.000 You don't give it back to them.

00:17:16.000 You just take it down.

00:17:17.000 And then there's a third tent.

00:17:18.000 And do you tell them to go home or do you just let them stay there without the tent?

00:17:20.000 Oh, you just tell them to go home.

00:17:21.000 Yeah.

00:17:22.000 And if they don't, then you just...

00:17:23.000 You either expel them or call the cops and have them arrested.

00:17:26.000 Wow.

00:17:27.000 Yeah, I know.

00:17:28.000 It's interesting.

00:17:29.000 You're not allowed to just sleep anywhere you want.

00:17:31.000 That's not...

00:17:32.000 Well, what about the encampment at the University of Pennsylvania, though?

00:17:34.000 Because you just allow that to continue, right?

00:17:37.000 Well...

00:17:38.000 And you negotiate with them?

00:17:39.000 There are some minor exceptions.

00:17:40.000 Are there?

00:17:41.000 Yeah.

00:17:42.000 No.

00:17:43.000 No?

00:17:44.000 That's the only exception is no.

00:17:45.000 No?

00:17:46.000 You do not let them stay there and you do not negotiate with them.

00:17:48.000 In fact, you actually like triple down and invest in random Israeli technology companies

00:17:53.000 just to piss them off.

00:17:55.000 I would love to see that.

00:17:57.000 That's what I would do.

00:17:58.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:17:59.000 I would love to see that.

00:18:00.000 How that would set off these little darlings.

00:18:03.000 It's adorable.

00:18:04.000 It's adorable.

00:18:05.000 Let's visit the encampment at Penn and cut 23.

00:18:08.000 It smells here, Pat.

00:18:10.000 Oh, can you imagine?

00:18:11.000 I can't even imagine.

00:18:12.000 I can't even imagine the odors going on in any of these quads.

00:18:16.000 But here's a little visit to that.

00:18:17.000 I'm here at my alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania, to see firsthand what is happening

00:18:22.000 with these anti-Israel terror encampments that are causing trouble on campuses all across

00:18:26.000 the country.

00:18:27.000 Can I ask you guys a couple questions?

00:18:28.000 Can you just step back a little bit?

00:18:29.000 I just felt like you got really close to me.

00:18:30.000 Thank you.

00:18:31.000 Are you a student here?

00:18:32.000 I'm not going to answer that question.

00:18:33.000 Are you a student here?

00:18:34.000 We should talk to our media people.

00:18:35.000 Okay, where are they?

00:18:36.000 Hi, can I speak to somebody from your media team?

00:18:37.000 Because nobody else will talk to me.

00:18:38.000 Uh, no.

00:18:39.000 No, you can't talk to a media team.

00:18:40.000 Oh, okay.

00:18:41.000 Hi, I'm here with Ben.

00:18:42.000 He is a current student at Penn.

00:18:43.000 Have you walked past and walked through the encampment?

00:18:44.000 I walked past.

00:18:45.000 I mean, this is where I study.

00:18:46.000 This is the biggest library on campus.

00:18:47.000 It's final season.

00:18:48.000 Every single seat is full.

00:18:49.000 And unfortunately, we have to hear it inside.

00:18:50.000 How has it impacted your ability to study for finals and take your exams?

00:18:53.000 Um, just seeing some of the stuff that they're cheering.

00:18:55.000 And sometimes it's difficult.

00:18:56.000 I don't know.

00:18:57.000 I don't know.

00:18:58.000 I don't know.

00:18:59.000 I don't know.

00:19:00.000 I don't know.

00:19:01.000 I don't know.

00:19:02.000 I don't know.

00:19:03.000 I don't know.

00:19:04.000 I don't know.

00:19:05.000 I don't know.

00:19:06.000 I'm just seeing some of the stuff that they're cheering.

00:19:08.000 And sometimes it's difficult to concentrate when people are calling for the genocide of

00:19:11.000 Jews right outside of the library you're trying to study in.

00:19:13.000 Yeah, that could be different.

00:19:14.000 Y'all were talking about genocide or anything.

00:19:16.000 Can y'all please bring this out?

00:19:18.000 I love this.

00:19:19.000 He's a Penn student and I'm a Penn alum.

00:19:20.000 Do you go here?

00:19:21.000 No comment.

00:19:22.000 Okay.

00:19:23.000 Thank you.

00:19:24.000 So we're going to stay here.

00:19:25.000 Thanks.

00:19:26.000 How do you feel about what you just said about how they're not calling for the genocide

00:19:28.000 of Jews when we've clearly heard them call for intifada revolution and from

00:19:32.000 the river to the sea?

00:19:33.000 And those are both calls for genocide of the Jews.

00:19:35.000 Well, along with those two-

00:19:36.000 That's gaslighting, no?

00:19:37.000 Yes.

00:19:38.000 I mean, along with those two cheers, which are obviously calling for the genocide of

00:19:40.000 Jews, they're waving the flags of PFLP, which is responsible for the deaths of many

00:19:44.000 Israelis and Jews.

00:19:45.000 You have them praising Hamas, cheering Al Qasem, make us proud.

00:19:48.000 They're cheering and celebrating when we have videos of the October 7th massacre playing

00:19:53.000 and women getting raped.

00:19:54.000 Do you have any message for the Penn administration or the mayor?

00:19:57.000 I just think the message is that Jewish students are not feeling safe right now.

00:20:00.000 We feel alone.

00:20:01.000 We feel isolated.

00:20:02.000 As a student, I should be able to go on any ground I want without non-students telling

00:20:07.000 me where and where to not go based on my ethnic identity and me wearing a Jewish star.

00:20:11.000 I couldn't agree more.

00:20:12.000 As a Penn alum, this is disgusting.

00:20:14.000 Thank you, Ben.

00:20:15.000 I appreciate it.

00:20:16.000 This is a pretty heartbreaking few hours here at Penn.

00:20:19.000 You know, I saw graduates trying to take their graduation pictures, celebrating the most

00:20:24.000 beautiful milestone of their life so far.

00:20:26.000 And in the background of every photo was this encampment, this encampment that's promoting

00:20:30.000 hate, promoting terrorism.

00:20:32.000 And, you know, the administration, the police department and the mayor are allowing this to

00:20:37.000 happen.

00:20:38.000 These campers are camping illegally on Penn's campus.

00:20:42.000 And my thoughts and prayers are with the Jewish students here at Penn and on campuses

00:20:47.000 all over the country.

00:20:48.000 This should not be allowed to happen.

00:20:50.000 We need our leaders to lead.

00:20:52.000 Yeah.

00:20:53.000 Huh.

00:20:54.000 You know, I would imagine it's true that Penn's finals probably difficult right off the bat.

00:20:59.000 And then you add in the chance of genocide in the background.

00:21:01.000 Not always easy to get through that.

00:21:03.000 It does make concentrating on your finals exam a little bit tougher.

00:21:08.000 A little tougher.

00:21:09.000 Just a tad.

00:21:10.000 But you know what?

00:21:11.000 They're Penn students.

00:21:12.000 They can handle the challenge.

00:21:13.000 Whatever.

00:21:14.000 Yeah.

00:21:15.000 This is apparently now the real world.

00:21:16.000 I guess they must get used to it.

00:21:18.000 And it's unbelievable.

00:21:20.000 And there's much more where that came from.

00:21:24.000 I don't know why it's being tolerated on so many campuses across the country.

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00:23:13.000 We are checking out some of the campus protesters.

00:23:20.000 I guess you would label them campus protesters.

00:23:23.000 The students supporting Hamas.

00:23:25.000 Again, a pro-Hamas student who was weeping about her Zionist family.

00:23:31.000 One of these encampments.

00:23:33.000 Here she is, cut 24.

00:23:35.000 If you support and are advocating for Palestine, can you please leave me a comment?

00:23:40.000 I'm feeling so alone, and I'm feeling so crazy.

00:23:44.000 No, honey.

00:23:45.000 I'm away from my home where my community is, where we all support Palestine.

00:23:51.000 They all support Palestine.

00:23:52.000 And I'm on a very short trip with my family, and all of them are Zionists,

00:23:58.000 and I'm the only one who is not and who is advocating for Palestine.

00:24:04.000 You've got a Zionist family, can you imagine?

00:24:06.000 I've tried to have so many conversations with them in the past about all of this

00:24:11.000 and why genocide equals bad, basically, and why Biden equals bad.

00:24:15.000 Genocide equals bad?

00:24:16.000 Is that confirmed?

00:24:17.000 It always leaves me in tears.

00:24:18.000 I'm feeling like I'm alone and like I'm crazy.

00:24:20.000 And that is what is happening.

00:24:23.000 Now, genocide equals bad, unless it's being perpetrated by Hamas, I guess.

00:24:27.000 Yeah, that's an okay.

00:24:28.000 That's an okay homicide.

00:24:29.000 October 7th was fine.

00:24:30.000 Yeah, that was fine.

00:24:31.000 Well, it was deserved.

00:24:32.000 And the actual Holocaust, I assume, is fine.

00:24:36.000 Yeah, apparently that was fine as well.

00:24:38.000 For the people in this group.

00:24:39.000 Uh-huh.

00:24:40.000 But she wants you to know that this is difficult.

00:24:43.000 Can you imagine?

00:24:44.000 Unbelievable.

00:24:45.000 I mean, can you imagine the almost gymnastics level eye roll that must be happening in the

00:24:51.000 car with this kid trying to explain why Palestine is even a country at all, let alone in the

00:24:58.000 right in this particular conflict?

00:24:59.000 Right.

00:25:00.000 And that Palestine is not a country, by the way.

00:25:02.000 No, not at all.

00:25:03.000 It's not.

00:25:04.000 Never been.

00:25:05.000 Never been a country.

00:25:06.000 Never been a country.

00:25:07.000 And could have been.

00:25:09.000 Could have been a country.

00:25:10.000 Could have been.

00:25:11.000 In 1947.

00:25:12.000 Was offered to them.

00:25:13.000 Israel was created.

00:25:14.000 They also created a country called Palestine, which was rejected by the Palestinians because

00:25:22.000 they wanted to kill the Jews and drive them off.

00:25:24.000 Because they wanted.

00:25:25.000 Let me think of it.

00:25:26.000 From the river to the sea.

00:25:27.000 To the sea.

00:25:28.000 I believe is what they wanted.

00:25:29.000 Yeah.

00:25:30.000 Palestine will be free.

00:25:31.000 Hmm.

00:25:32.000 Well, now it's not.

00:25:33.000 Nah, no.

00:25:34.000 In fact, it doesn't even exist.

00:25:35.000 No.

00:25:36.000 So that was a poor decision.

00:25:37.000 And there's been a series of them.

00:25:38.000 And how many of these kids even know?

00:25:39.000 How many of them?

00:25:40.000 None of them.

00:25:41.000 None of them know the history of this.

00:25:44.000 None of them care about the history.

00:25:45.000 All they care about is, I think, skipping class.

00:25:50.000 But.

00:25:51.000 I would respect that, though.

00:25:52.000 Yeah.

00:25:53.000 In some way.

00:25:54.000 Like, I remember.

00:25:55.000 When I was in high school, we had these walkouts all the time.

00:25:57.000 I just remember them.

00:25:58.000 Just participate.

00:25:59.000 Yeah.

00:26:00.000 100%.

00:26:01.000 Now, what were they about?

00:26:02.000 No idea.

00:26:03.000 No idea.

00:26:04.000 No one ever knew what they were about.

00:26:05.000 No one cared what they were about.

00:26:06.000 So in Connecticut, you had walkouts in high school.

00:26:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:10.000 I didn't know what they were about.

00:26:11.000 No.

00:26:12.000 But you walked out.

00:26:13.000 Of course I did.

00:26:14.000 Of course you did.

00:26:15.000 I was inside of school.

00:26:16.000 And the option was to be outside of school.

00:26:19.000 Yeah.

00:26:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:21.000 So I took that option.

00:26:22.000 Okay.

00:26:23.000 And I was probably supporting all sorts of terrible things.

00:26:24.000 I mean, I think my remembrance of them were more like they were like local issues of

00:26:28.000 some sort.

00:26:29.000 I don't even know.

00:26:30.000 Like some, probably some bond.

00:26:31.000 You know, the local politicians were pushing.

00:26:34.000 I don't know.

00:26:35.000 All I know is that I was.

00:26:36.000 We want Groundhog Day off.

00:26:37.000 Yes.

00:26:38.000 I was a big Groundhog Day off type of guy.

00:26:40.000 Yeah.

00:26:41.000 You know, look, it's just, it was just the right thing to do.

00:26:44.000 And I stand by that policy to this day.

00:26:46.000 Arbor Day.

00:26:47.000 We don't celebrate Arbor Day at this school.

00:26:49.000 It was probably crap like that.

00:26:50.000 Yeah.

00:26:51.000 I would have walked out on that too.

00:26:52.000 You walk out and then you're, well, here's the thing, Pat.

00:26:54.000 There's a building and you're outside of it.

00:26:57.000 That was what I was standing for.

00:26:59.000 Yeah.

00:27:00.000 You know, you came back in when they made you come back in and it was funny because

00:27:03.000 it was always praised.

00:27:04.000 It was always like, look at these students taking initiative.

00:27:07.000 It was the same crap that leads to the nonsense we're seeing on campus, right?

00:27:11.000 Yep.

00:27:12.000 You know, I mean, that is, I grew up in Connecticut, so I might explain some of these things, but

00:27:16.000 it's like, it's just an issue where basic, basic understanding of this conflict is important.

00:27:25.000 It's important.

00:27:26.000 We say this all the time, Pat.

00:27:28.000 Sure is.

00:27:29.000 Learn then protest.

00:27:30.000 The order is important.

00:27:31.000 Yes.

00:27:32.000 You can get that t-shirt, by the way, learnthenprotest.com.

00:27:35.000 But if you go there and you get the shirt, you can wear it to these protests and inform

00:27:39.000 these people about this because knowing something about this particular conflict is important

00:27:45.000 before you take a position on it.

00:27:47.000 Very important.

00:27:48.000 It's not, you know, this hasn't just, this didn't just start even on October 7th, Pat.

00:27:51.000 It was back before that a little ways.

00:27:53.000 Really?

00:27:54.000 Yeah.

00:27:55.000 Does it go back to like September of last year?

00:27:57.000 Even farther.

00:27:58.000 Does it go back that far?

00:27:59.000 Even farther.

00:28:00.000 Farther than September of last year?

00:28:02.000 Yes.

00:28:03.000 Oh my gosh.

00:28:04.000 Yeah.

00:28:05.000 You know, this has been going on for a while and people have been trying to do the same

00:28:07.000 thing to the Jews for thousands of years.

00:28:08.000 Thousands of years, for instance.

00:28:09.000 Yeah.

00:28:10.000 Yeah.

00:28:11.000 Interesting.

00:28:12.000 You know, maybe knowing something about this and like.

00:28:13.000 The thing is, you can't explain this to them though, because they don't want to

00:28:16.000 hear it.

00:28:17.000 They don't care.

00:28:18.000 I've seen people trying to explain the conflict and all they do is, is yell in their, yell

00:28:23.000 back in their face.

00:28:24.000 They're stupid slogans like, you know, river to the sea bull crap.

00:28:27.000 I mean, I don't know that there's any reasoning with these kids.

00:28:32.000 I don't know that they can be taught common sense or brought up to speed on understanding

00:28:40.000 how complicated this process has been and the history of it.

00:28:44.000 And it is a long winding history.

00:28:46.000 It is.

00:28:47.000 You know, when it comes down to picking which side is right.

00:28:50.000 It's not that hard.

00:28:51.000 It's not that complicated.

00:28:52.000 Not hard at all.

00:28:53.000 It's pretty darn clear.

00:28:54.000 Yeah.

00:28:55.000 And you know, look, you look at the, look at the countries that border Israel and look

00:28:58.000 at their open arms they're providing to the Palestinians right now.

00:29:01.000 And it shows you exactly what the problem here is.

00:29:04.000 Yeah.

00:29:05.000 Again, that doesn't mean every Palestinian is bad by any means, but what it does mean is

00:29:08.000 when you look at the polling of this region, you look at a region that like, I don't know

00:29:12.000 how you solve the problems in this, in this area.

00:29:15.000 I mean, when you have 90% of people who are supportive of the efforts of October 7th.

00:29:21.000 Yeah.

00:29:22.000 And you've seen, I've seen everywhere from 70 to 90, but you know, let's say 70%.

00:29:26.000 It's the vast majority.

00:29:27.000 It's very difficult to unwind a problem like that.

00:29:31.000 Yeah.

00:29:32.000 You have to start, of course, with eliminating the terrorist group who they elected to run

00:29:40.000 the operation.

00:29:41.000 But I mean, like, you know, you go back to Imperial Japan and you'd see some, some polls

00:29:46.000 that would look impossible.

00:29:47.000 I'm sure at that time too, you know, and God works miracle miracles.

00:29:51.000 So who knows what can happen long-term in this region?

00:29:53.000 I hope it's something positive, but man, I, you know, it wouldn't be, I wouldn't be throwing

00:29:57.000 money down on the table to bet on it at this point.

00:30:01.000 Hmm.

00:30:02.000 Me neither.

00:30:03.000 When it comes to human abilities to change the way, the path of history, I think we've

00:30:12.000 gone past that at this point.

00:30:15.000 All you can do is protect yourself and your, and your, and your population from being murdered.

00:30:18.000 Yeah.

00:30:19.000 That's all you can do at this point.

00:30:20.000 I don't know.

00:30:21.000 Only God can, has a solution to something like this.

00:30:23.000 Yes.

00:30:24.000 That's why it's so frustrating.

00:30:25.000 We, when they keep stating there needs to be a two state solution.

00:30:29.000 And you know, that was tried 70 years ago.

00:30:32.000 They tried the two states right for the entire time.

00:30:36.000 Since there can be no two state solution.

00:30:38.000 While one of the parties wants the complete annihilation of the other one.

00:30:42.000 And when you say, uh, they've been talking who the politicians, sure.

00:30:45.000 There have been American politicians who've been talking a lot about this.

00:30:48.000 Listen to the protesters, listen to the people in the, in Gaza.

00:30:52.000 What they say is we don't want no two state.

00:30:54.000 We want everything.

00:30:56.000 It's a terrible chant and also has a double negative, which kind of makes it sound like

00:31:00.000 they do want to know a two state.

00:31:02.000 But I think what they're saying is they would not like a two state solution.

00:31:05.000 That's what I think you're, I think you're right on that.

00:31:07.000 Based on the other chants wrapped around it with, from the river to the sea and such.

00:31:11.000 And why is it that during this protest, rhyming isn't as important as normal?

00:31:16.000 That bothers me.

00:31:17.000 Great question.

00:31:18.000 Bothers me.

00:31:19.000 That's the key question of these protests.

00:31:20.000 I think it is.

00:31:21.000 It is.

00:31:22.000 You gotta take time to come up with a rhyme.

00:31:23.000 Yeah, come on.

00:31:24.000 Especially with chat GPT on the scene.

00:31:26.000 Right.

00:31:27.000 Just ask chat GPT.

00:31:28.000 Can you make this rhyme somehow?

00:31:29.000 Yeah.

00:31:30.000 And I'm sure it could.

00:31:31.000 Right?

00:31:32.000 Do you have chat GPT?

00:31:33.000 Yeah, let me see if I can try it real quick.

00:31:34.000 Okay.

00:31:35.000 Can you give me a chant that rhymes that opposes Zionism?

00:31:42.000 Okay.

00:31:43.000 Let's see.

00:31:44.000 How long will this take?

00:31:45.000 I don't know.

00:31:46.000 Let's see.

00:31:47.000 It's saying, okay.

00:31:49.000 It says, there's everything with chat GPT.

00:31:53.000 Yes, I have that goal.

00:31:57.000 There's always a disclaimer.

00:31:59.000 Okay.

00:32:00.000 When it first started, it was like, hey, Jews are bad.

00:32:03.000 And you're like, oh, maybe we should rework on chat GPT.

00:32:06.000 So it says, I'm here to promote understanding and thoughtful discussion on complex and sensitive topics.

00:32:11.000 If you're looking for help to create a chant or message, it's important to focus on promoting peace, understanding, and respectful dialogue rather than opposition.

00:32:19.000 Chat GPT has not been to the college campuses.

00:32:21.000 Does not know that this is not the goal at all.

00:32:23.000 It's not even close to the goal.

00:32:25.000 Excuse them for a second.

00:32:27.000 And I, so I had to write, yes, I have the goal of peace or whatever.

00:32:31.000 They said, here's their chant.

00:32:33.000 Peace and dialogue.

00:32:34.000 Let's unite understanding and respect.

00:32:37.000 We invite.

00:32:38.000 Oh, man.

00:32:39.000 That's good.

00:32:40.000 That's catchy.

00:32:41.000 Today we stand hand in hand for justice and peace throughout the land.

00:32:44.000 That doesn't work though.

00:32:46.000 It doesn't work.

00:32:47.000 That doesn't fit their goal.

00:32:48.000 That's not what they want.

00:32:49.000 That's not what they want.

00:32:50.000 Now give me one.

00:32:51.000 Can you include the words?

00:32:54.000 We're not interested in it, in the to state, because maybe they can make that rhyme somehow.

00:33:00.000 Okay.

00:33:01.000 We don't want no to state.

00:33:06.000 I don't know.

00:33:07.000 You know, again, when you have this and it will already do.

00:33:11.000 Uh, something like maybe because the Jews really aren't great.

00:33:17.000 Does that work?

00:33:18.000 I mean, it's not the way they went.

00:33:20.000 It's not the way they went.

00:33:21.000 It's not the way they went.

00:33:22.000 Here we go.

00:33:23.000 Okay.

00:33:24.000 Let's talk.

00:33:25.000 Let's negotiate.

00:33:27.000 Unity and peace.

00:33:28.000 We advocate.

00:33:29.000 Together, a single path we create.

00:33:32.000 Now, this is just a point.

00:33:35.000 It doesn't make much sense.

00:33:36.000 You're not reaching my goal here.

00:33:38.000 No.

00:33:39.000 I want something more violent towards Jews, chat GPT.

00:33:42.000 I don't understand.

00:33:43.000 But it's funny because like, you know, it's a basic thing.

00:33:47.000 You're supposed to be able to, it should have a rhythm and a rhyme to it.

00:33:50.000 And they have abandoned this entire part of the movement and it's disappointing.

00:33:54.000 And again, I don't know why that's okay this time.

00:33:56.000 No.

00:33:57.000 It's never been okay before.

00:33:58.000 I mean, this dates back to even pre Vietnam.

00:34:01.000 I mean, we were, we were doing these really catchy chants that rhymed.

00:34:05.000 And so I'm very disappointed in chat GPT.

00:34:08.000 I'm very disappointed in these particular protesters as well.

00:34:12.000 Uh, because that's, that's not an issue for them.

00:34:15.000 But what I am, I'm wondering if, uh, have they gotten lunch yet today?

00:34:21.000 Oh, I hope so.

00:34:22.000 And, uh, is it, is it gluten free?

00:34:25.000 Uh, are there no bananas and no nuts involved?

00:34:29.000 Because many people have allergies to both of those things.

00:34:32.000 Do people, a lot of people have banana allergies.

00:34:34.000 Banana allergies seems to be a big thing on these campuses right now.

00:34:37.000 No bananas!

00:34:38.000 Exclamation point is often stated in their demands.

00:34:41.000 Bananas are incredible.

00:34:42.000 I love bananas.

00:34:43.000 I freaking love bananas.

00:34:44.000 I usually eat at least one and maybe two bananas in a day.

00:34:47.000 They're delicious.

00:34:48.000 I love them.

00:34:49.000 And they're, it kind of come in their own packaging.

00:34:50.000 Yes.

00:34:51.000 Which is fantastic.

00:34:52.000 It is nature's perfect food.

00:34:53.000 It really is.

00:34:54.000 That's how they used to talk about it on the commercials I remember.

00:34:56.000 Yeah.

00:34:57.000 And they were right.

00:34:58.000 And they were right.

00:34:59.000 They were right.

00:35:00.000 Like this is, with the exception of it, they do go, after about a week they turn imperfect.

00:35:02.000 Yes.

00:35:03.000 Yes.

00:35:04.000 But other than that.

00:35:05.000 Banana bread you can make out of them.

00:35:07.000 Which is delicious.

00:35:08.000 Which by the way, I believe Kexi cookies made at one point.

00:35:10.000 We did.

00:35:11.000 Kexi.com.

00:35:12.000 Kexi.com did make banana bread.

00:35:14.000 Delicious banana bread.

00:35:15.000 Really, really good.

00:35:16.000 Which hopefully they come back with at some point soon.

00:35:19.000 Yeah.

00:35:20.000 I think we might.

00:35:21.000 Really?

00:35:22.000 Based on your recommendation right there.

00:35:23.000 I freaking love it.

00:35:24.000 It's nature's perfect food, Pat.

00:35:25.000 From the river to the sea.

00:35:27.000 Banana bread.

00:35:28.000 Stew.

00:35:29.000 We'll soon see.

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00:37:17.000 Christy Noem apparently canceled her book tour fairly abruptly.

00:37:23.000 Why?

00:37:24.000 Why?

00:37:25.000 What's going on?

00:37:26.000 Huh?

00:37:27.000 Was it...

00:37:28.000 Was it not going well?

00:37:29.000 Yes.

00:37:30.000 Was there something about it that displeased her?

00:37:33.000 I don't understand.

00:37:34.000 This sucks.

00:37:35.000 It's sad.

00:37:36.000 I wish this did not...

00:37:38.000 Me too.

00:37:39.000 I wish this did not occur.

00:37:40.000 Me too, because I really like Christy Noem.

00:37:41.000 So does Cricket, by the way.

00:37:42.000 Yeah.

00:37:43.000 Cricket also wishes this did not occur.

00:37:45.000 Yeah.

00:37:46.000 Yeah, Cricket...

00:37:47.000 Cricket the dog.

00:37:48.000 Yeah.

00:37:49.000 Yeah, it's not gone well, Pat.

00:37:50.000 It has not been a successful VP rollout.

00:37:52.000 It has not gone well.

00:37:53.000 Not gone well.

00:37:54.000 And I don't think that there's now any chance.

00:37:56.000 Do you think she was the pick?

00:37:57.000 I...

00:37:58.000 No, I don't think she was the pick.

00:37:59.000 I think she was in the conversation for the pick.

00:38:01.000 Yeah, I think so too.

00:38:02.000 Until this.

00:38:03.000 And I think she's...

00:38:04.000 And now she is no longer in the conversation.

00:38:05.000 She would have been a good choice.

00:38:06.000 I like Christy Noem.

00:38:08.000 Yes.

00:38:09.000 She would have...

00:38:11.000 I think there's reasons to believe she would have been a good choice.

00:38:14.000 However, I think the way that this has gone convinces me it would not have been a good choice.

00:38:19.000 Oh, well, yeah.

00:38:20.000 Her judgment seems to be a little flawed.

00:38:21.000 Yes.

00:38:22.000 Massively flawed.

00:38:23.000 A, why did you kill the dog when you could have given it away to somebody?

00:38:26.000 I mean, I know you didn't want your kids to be endangered.

00:38:28.000 Okay.

00:38:29.000 Fair.

00:38:30.000 Humane society.

00:38:31.000 I don't know.

00:38:32.000 A different farm where there's not children involved.

00:38:35.000 Somebody might have taken the dog, right?

00:38:37.000 Of course.

00:38:38.000 I mean, it would have been much better to drive into the middle of the forest and release

00:38:42.000 it on its own recognizance.

00:38:43.000 Yes.

00:38:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:45.000 I don't know what...

00:38:46.000 Because it might have survived that.

00:38:47.000 Maybe it went out of chance.

00:38:48.000 Probably not the gunshot wound to the head will it survive, but maybe releasing it on

00:38:51.000 its own.

00:38:52.000 But let's just...

00:38:53.000 But then why are you putting the book?

00:38:55.000 Right.

00:38:56.000 Why the book?

00:38:57.000 There's a report that said that she had tried to put it in a previous book.

00:39:00.000 I saw that.

00:39:01.000 The gun talked out of it.

00:39:02.000 Got talked out of it by her aides, and then she's like, no, I gotta do it this time.

00:39:04.000 It's like, hey, if that's your judgment...

00:39:06.000 That is not good.

00:39:07.000 Shooting the dog's really, really bad.

00:39:09.000 Thinking that that is a plausible, palatable story for the American people who, by the

00:39:14.000 way, in case you're wondering about how the human mind works, are immediately going to

00:39:18.000 picture their own dog in this situation.

00:39:19.000 Yeah.

00:39:20.000 Like, it's like...

00:39:21.000 Yes.

00:39:22.000 The worst possible thing you could do.

00:39:23.000 Yeah.

00:39:24.000 And then, even beyond all of...

00:39:26.000 And then the story about Kim Jong-un.

00:39:27.000 Kim Jong-un.

00:39:28.000 But even beyond all of this, the tour and the pushback, the way she's tried to argue her

00:39:35.000 way out of it has been so bad.

00:39:36.000 So bad.

00:39:37.000 She does not have that ability in a big spot to be able to, I don't know, manage these

00:39:44.000 situations appropriately.

00:39:45.000 I think it means not only is her VP chance over, so is her chance for any other elected

00:39:52.000 office.

00:39:53.000 Possibly.

00:39:54.000 I would be stunned to see her in the cabinet somewhere.

00:39:56.000 I would not be stunned to see it if Trump were to win.

00:39:59.000 Maybe.

00:40:00.000 Because she has been loyal and Trump...

00:40:01.000 But barring that, can you even see her running for senator from South Dakota?

00:40:06.000 I don't know.

00:40:07.000 I don't...

00:40:08.000 It would be tough.

00:40:09.000 It would be really hard.

00:40:10.000 It would be very, very tough at this point.

00:40:11.000 Yep.

00:40:12.000 It's not been a good couple weeks.

00:40:13.000 No.

00:40:14.000 Not been a good couple weeks.

00:40:15.000 No.

00:40:16.000 And it's all self-inflicted.

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00:41:08.200 Today with Pat and Stu, with Kristi Noem probably out of the picture for vice president,

00:41:14.700 who will be Donald Trump's choice as running mate?

00:41:19.740 We'll get into that a little bit coming up here in 60 seconds.

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00:42:35.000 It looks like maybe the fortunes of Christy Noem are not exactly skyrocketing right now.

00:42:43.780 She apparently just canceled her book tour.

00:42:46.640 She canceled on Greg Gutfeld and Dana Perino interviews yesterday at the last minute.

00:42:51.960 They didn't seem too happy about it.

00:42:53.300 In fact, Gutfeld instead interviewed Dana Perino as Christy Noem, and that was a little brutal.

00:43:01.600 So, is her political career over?

00:43:05.900 I mean, I wouldn't say that, honestly.

00:43:08.420 I think I would not be stunned to see Trump bring her in in some ways.

00:43:12.000 He does not mind people who have their issues, you know, that have had their troubles.

00:43:17.440 In fact, I think sometimes he likes people like that, that have maybe struggled,

00:43:21.520 and he can give them a little hand up in their moment of need that often garners loyalty from a person.

00:43:28.860 And I think it's not crazy for me to believe that she still has a role somewhere in that world.

00:43:34.520 Maybe in the administration if he won.

00:43:36.560 If he were to win.

00:43:37.440 But again, as far as a VP, I think it's over.

00:43:41.280 I do too.

00:43:41.700 And honestly, like, as a person who loves dogs and cannot picture doing that to a dog,

00:43:47.960 and I get that I'm the least farmer person in the world.

00:43:51.820 I do not live on a farm.

00:43:53.500 I grew up in Connecticut.

00:43:55.560 So, I have no understanding as to what life is like on the farm, nor do I want to, frankly.

00:44:00.500 I don't want...

00:44:01.460 I've heard Glenn talk about some of the things that happen on the farm.

00:44:04.500 I don't...

00:44:05.480 I like to be in a bubble when it comes to that stuff.

00:44:08.940 Thank God there are farmers out there doing difficult work that I...

00:44:12.780 Because if it was up to me, we'd all die.

00:44:14.800 That's essentially how this would end.

00:44:16.540 So, I...

00:44:17.480 That disclaimer completely out there, it's even more about her handling of it than it is the actual dog.

00:44:25.540 Like, you are going to come up...

00:44:27.840 Yeah, because the actual dog actually died 20 years ago.

00:44:31.360 Right.

00:44:31.680 Okay, that's long over.

00:44:32.940 Yes.

00:44:33.780 So...

00:44:34.580 And it honestly, like, it is incomprehensible for me to believe that someone who wants to be vice president of the United States could possibly think that was a good story to put in a book.

00:44:47.220 Yeah.

00:44:47.520 It shows your...

00:44:48.760 Yes.

00:44:49.420 Like, your job as a vice presidential candidate for someone like Donald Trump, there are two profiles for this person, Pat.

00:44:56.840 One is a tack dog.

00:44:58.740 Mm-hmm.

00:44:59.260 Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:45:00.340 J.D. Vance.

00:45:01.140 Right?

00:45:01.300 It's someone who's going to go on TV and absolutely light in to liberal media on behalf of Donald Trump and just go...

00:45:09.720 Balls to the wall.

00:45:11.100 Right?

00:45:11.440 That's not the Kristi Noem profile.

00:45:13.220 The Kristi Noem profile, she fits into the other group, which is like a do-no-harm person.

00:45:16.840 Person who can be solid on policy, who can...

00:45:19.260 Mike Pence was like this.

00:45:20.740 You know, he can talk about these things calmly.

00:45:24.020 Maybe put a...

00:45:25.360 You know, Donald Trump comes out, tweets in all caps.

00:45:27.680 He comes out with the calm, lowercase version of that argument.

00:45:31.720 Yeah.

00:45:31.920 And is able to kind of, you know, bridge that gap from, you know, Donald Trump's personality to the more standard politician.

00:45:39.180 And that would be Noem's approach here.

00:45:42.480 Your job in that role is to do no harm.

00:45:45.720 If you can't see that executing your dog and telling the story about how...

00:45:52.100 I mean, like, adding the detail about how your kid was disappointed and asking where the dog was...

00:45:58.120 I mean, I just like...

00:45:58.960 It's incomprehensible if you...

00:46:01.280 Even if that is how farm life is, and I admit I don't know how farm life is...

00:46:04.940 If that is how farm life is, you need to understand that your life on the farm does not relate to 85, 90% of the rest of the population, which is your job as vice president.

00:46:16.940 I would maintain that scant few farmers ever take their dogs out and shoot them in the head.

00:46:21.820 Yeah, in a gravel pit.

00:46:23.760 Or anywhere, for that matter.

00:46:25.100 So you think it's lower than 10% of the population?

00:46:27.280 I think it's lower, yeah.

00:46:27.640 I was being generous on that one, Pat.

00:46:30.060 I mean, because even as a farmer, you understand, nobody shoots their dog.

00:46:36.540 Nobody does that.

00:46:37.180 It's just not a thing.

00:46:37.980 Not in America.

00:46:38.800 It's not a thing.

00:46:39.220 It's not a part of American culture.

00:46:41.220 We're dog lovers here.

00:46:42.960 You know?

00:46:43.460 I mean, not everybody is.

00:46:44.960 In fact, Donald Trump doesn't seem to like dogs all that much.

00:46:47.560 You know?

00:46:47.720 He doesn't seem to be a pro-dog guy.

00:46:49.080 At one point, they were like...

00:46:51.420 I think it was CNN or MSNBC.

00:46:53.600 They were like, what if she put this in the book because she wanted to appeal to Donald Trump who doesn't like dogs?

00:47:00.060 It's like, okay, shut up, you morons.

00:47:03.400 I mean, but Trump doesn't have a dog.

00:47:05.060 He doesn't seem to be like your classic dog lover.

00:47:08.380 There are people like that.

00:47:09.680 But there are very few people who are like, hey, what if we bring him out to the gravel trip?

00:47:13.980 The gravel pit.

00:47:14.880 And execute the dog in front of a construction worker or two.

00:47:18.440 And then bring a goat out for good measure.

00:47:21.260 Like, again, I understand there are different cultures.

00:47:24.960 Different things happen.

00:47:26.580 Yeah.

00:47:26.740 Not everyone's brought up the same way.

00:47:27.860 But you have to know when you're in that position.

00:47:31.700 Like, that is part of the awareness of a politician.

00:47:34.500 You have to know.

00:47:35.500 Gosh, you know.

00:47:37.780 Like, remember the clip of Sarah Palin when she was doing an interview and they were like chopping off the heads of chickens behind her?

00:47:44.460 Do you remember this clip from the 2000...

00:47:47.020 God, what year was that now?

00:47:49.000 2008 presidential campaign?

00:47:51.000 She's doing an interview.

00:47:51.960 This had nothing to do with her.

00:47:52.860 She's just at like a farm type area and they're doing the things they do on farms.

00:47:57.760 Like, they're executing...

00:47:58.740 I think it was chickens in the background.

00:48:00.780 And like, she didn't know the shot was set up this way.

00:48:03.040 She's doing a normal interview.

00:48:04.380 And it's just like the optics of that are not something that you want.

00:48:08.340 Right.

00:48:08.640 Right.

00:48:09.020 You have to...

00:48:09.660 We all understand what happens to chickens.

00:48:12.580 Okay?

00:48:12.780 We all get it.

00:48:13.940 That doesn't mean we want to walk into the grocery store and see the guy doing it.

00:48:18.220 Right?

00:48:18.460 This is just like a fundamental disconnect.

00:48:21.660 And then you go to the point of dogs are not thought of like chickens are.

00:48:26.900 That is not...

00:48:28.180 I mean, think of Charlotte's Web.

00:48:30.620 This is a story that every kid watched and, you know, I love the...

00:48:36.200 I freaking love Charlotte's Web when I was a kid.

00:48:38.540 But like, you feel bad for the pig.

00:48:42.160 When the pig has a personality, you feel bad for it.

00:48:46.460 And to American human beings, in almost all circumstances, dogs have personalities.

00:48:53.420 Right?

00:48:53.880 They are loved members of the family.

00:48:56.540 Now, look.

00:48:57.040 If your dog is going out and attacking people, people...

00:49:00.220 A lot of people go through this.

00:49:01.560 Right?

00:49:01.760 Where you...

00:49:02.200 If your dog escapes and...

00:49:03.540 Biting went through it.

00:49:04.700 Yep.

00:49:05.660 How many times did he bite Secret Service agents?

00:49:08.100 Yeah.

00:49:08.200 28, I think it was.

00:49:09.100 Something like that.

00:49:10.100 Yeah.

00:49:10.360 So, usually what happens in those situations, you're bringing it to the Humane Society or something.

00:49:14.780 And sometimes those dogs are put down.

00:49:17.640 But they're not put down in a gravel pit behind your house.

00:49:21.100 Like, that's just not how that works.

00:49:22.480 So, it's the awareness of that.

00:49:24.200 And then, her efforts on TV to talk about this have been horrible.

00:49:31.200 Embarrassing.

00:49:32.180 You know, unlike Cricket, Donald Trump very well may have dodged a bullet here.

00:49:36.220 And I think that there is a situation where she gets this gig because, on paper, she really...

00:49:44.400 And look, she's been a good governor, generally speaking, I think, of her state.

00:49:47.860 She did a great job during COVID.

00:49:50.340 She's good on things like energy.

00:49:52.380 There is a profile there where she could have been.

00:49:54.540 I think she was in the conversation.

00:49:56.420 Would she have gotten it?

00:49:58.080 I don't...

00:49:58.860 I mean, you know, it's hard to say.

00:50:00.200 I don't think so, probably.

00:50:01.300 I wouldn't say her chances were above, let's say, 20%.

00:50:04.760 But they've gone from 20 to zero.

00:50:07.620 Yeah, for sure.

00:50:08.100 And so, thinking about this, Pat, I was thinking about what are the types of things Donald Trump

00:50:12.800 is looking for in a vice presidential candidate?

00:50:15.420 I'm trying to think, get inside his head a little bit.

00:50:18.160 What are the traits he wants out of a VP?

00:50:21.520 Loyalty.

00:50:22.060 So, let me...

00:50:22.560 That's the first one I had.

00:50:23.640 Loyalty was the first one on the list that I came up with.

00:50:26.120 Loyalty, number one.

00:50:26.940 And loyalty is something specific, right?

00:50:28.480 It's something that every VP needs.

00:50:31.920 You know, you need to have the ability...

00:50:33.580 But you need it in bigger proportion if it's Donald Trump.

00:50:36.960 Yep.

00:50:37.280 He prizes it more.

00:50:38.940 More than almost anything else, I think.

00:50:40.560 Like, when you have, you know, I don't know, Donald Trump says something and it makes you

00:50:43.940 squirm.

00:50:44.740 You know, inside you, as a VP, you feel like, gosh, like, I love these policies.

00:50:50.420 I love Don, but like, this, I don't agree with this.

00:50:53.560 You have to be able to fight through that and say the thing that Trump wants you to say

00:50:57.540 anyway, and that is loyalty that he wants.

00:51:00.300 Look, at some level, we saw it with Palin and McCain back in 2008.

00:51:04.260 She's like, well, global warming maybe isn't that crazy of a policy to pursue.

00:51:08.500 Like, you have to do these things at some level.

00:51:10.720 Every VP does, but I think you're right.

00:51:12.600 Trump prioritizes it more.

00:51:14.340 A subset of that, of loyalty, I think this is the number one thing.

00:51:18.900 I think this is the litmus test for Donald Trump.

00:51:20.720 Put yourself in Donald Trump's mind for a second.

00:51:22.240 He's picked a vice president once, okay?

00:51:26.200 That person was Mike Pence.

00:51:28.160 When he looks back at the vice presidency of Mike Pence, he doesn't look at what we just

00:51:31.640 talked about.

00:51:32.480 The many, many, many times that Mike Pence went on television and defended policies and

00:51:38.020 statements he didn't agree with.

00:51:39.680 He was very loyal as a vice president for the entire time up until what day?

00:51:48.980 Right?

00:51:49.140 January 6th, right?

00:51:50.700 Yep.

00:51:51.060 When he had this moment on January 6th where he wanted him not to affirm these election

00:51:55.460 results, and he did it anyway, that is the central moment he thinks about when he thinks

00:51:59.680 about picking a VP.

00:52:00.760 I believe he has a litmus test of sorts.

00:52:04.360 He at least has to believe that person would have acted differently on January 6th.

00:52:10.560 I think he, Donald Trump, when he's making this decision, if he sees it, I don't think

00:52:16.080 he's going to see the exact same situation.

00:52:18.340 Obviously, he, you know, in theory is constitutionally limited from running for a third term.

00:52:22.540 This exact situation can't pop up again unless something massive changes.

00:52:26.860 But I will say, if there is another similar moment where, you know, a guy, you know, you

00:52:34.560 have a question on the Constitution that Donald Trump takes one way and everyone else kind

00:52:38.960 of seems to take it another way, he better believe that you're going to take it his way.

00:52:44.120 I think going into this, that's a really important thing to Donald Trump.

00:52:47.820 You may disagree with it.

00:52:49.380 You may agree with it.

00:52:51.020 It doesn't matter what you think about the 2020 election.

00:52:52.980 It matters about what you think.

00:52:54.200 If you're Donald Trump, he wants that person to be on his side in that moment.

00:52:58.220 And so anyone who you think, like, I thought I brought up the example of a guy like, like,

00:53:02.200 Mike Lee or Ted Cruz, right?

00:53:05.340 Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, neither one of those are going to be the VP pick.

00:53:08.340 I don't think either one of them are interested in it.

00:53:10.260 But these are two people that are really super dedicated to the Constitution and how they

00:53:13.920 see the Constitution.

00:53:15.160 And if Donald Trump in a moment, because he believes it's important to him or he believes

00:53:19.240 he's got it right on the Constitution, disagrees with Mike Lee, Mike Lee's just going to

00:53:23.380 say, this is what the Constitution says.

00:53:24.900 I'm not going that way.

00:53:26.180 So I don't think there'd be any chance a person like that would be picked.

00:53:29.200 Because Trump, I think, centrally sees this in a way where he doesn't want to get, in

00:53:34.340 his mind, burned by that again.

00:53:36.520 You disagree with that or you agree?

00:53:37.680 No, I agree with that.

00:53:38.420 Okay.

00:53:38.800 Yep.

00:53:39.900 Third trait for VP, central casting.

00:53:44.240 Donald Trump likes the central casting stuff.

00:53:46.400 He likes the person who looks the role, you know?

00:53:49.520 That doesn't necessarily mean hot, right?

00:53:52.260 Like, I'm not saying you have to be beautiful or sexy or, you know, you need to have abs for

00:53:58.080 this role, but you got to kind of have the, you got to have the look for the role for

00:54:01.800 Donald Trump.

00:54:02.380 And I don't know, this isn't the most important characteristic, but it's part of the reason

00:54:05.320 why I think he picked a lot of generals at the beginning of his term.

00:54:08.100 Like, it was like, kind of, I had that vibe, right?

00:54:10.500 The vibe you want.

00:54:11.720 It's always been, optics are important to a person who's been on television his entire

00:54:15.460 life.

00:54:15.860 Yeah.

00:54:16.120 Right?

00:54:16.360 He knows media.

00:54:17.380 Look who he surrounds himself with.

00:54:19.700 He's, every time.

00:54:21.680 Yeah.

00:54:21.860 Every time they're a person that looks the role.

00:54:23.820 Yeah.

00:54:23.960 And like, Mike Pence looks the role.

00:54:25.480 Yeah.

00:54:25.720 Mike Pence looked like a VP.

00:54:27.220 Yeah.

00:54:27.380 Right?

00:54:28.100 You know, we talked about Kristi Noem.

00:54:29.920 She fit into this category.

00:54:31.540 Yes.

00:54:31.820 You know, people throw out Nancy Mace.

00:54:33.740 His lawyer right now.

00:54:34.820 Yeah.

00:54:35.000 Yeah.

00:54:35.460 Fits the role.

00:54:36.000 Fits the role.

00:54:37.320 You know, I think maybe J.D. Vance fits the role.

00:54:40.200 Like, a guy who, like, you know, looks like a vice president, kind of could be the person

00:54:43.760 who, he's good on television.

00:54:45.400 That type of person.

00:54:46.680 Next up, subservience.

00:54:49.320 To him.

00:54:49.840 Yeah.

00:54:50.120 To him.

00:54:50.560 You have to fold to what he wants.

00:54:52.180 And like, that kind of, it kind of, similar to loyalty, but a little bit different.

00:54:56.560 You know, where loyalty is like, okay, in a tough moment, I need you to be there for

00:55:00.200 me.

00:55:00.780 Right?

00:55:01.460 Subservience is more like, look, I want tariffs.

00:55:04.500 I know you don't.

00:55:05.480 You're going to like tariffs.

00:55:07.580 You're going to like tariffs for four years.

00:55:10.100 Yeah.

00:55:10.380 Deal with it.

00:55:11.560 Right.

00:55:11.780 And every VP has to have that.

00:55:14.220 Every VP has to have an element of that.

00:55:16.000 If you have some VP who's loudmouth, like, you know, one of us.

00:55:19.360 Right.

00:55:19.620 Going out there and arguing for their own beliefs every time, the whole administration falls

00:55:22.980 apart.

00:55:23.320 You have, subservience sounds like a bad word, but you have to have it in a VP.

00:55:27.280 And you probably need it more than ever with Donald Trump because, look, it's who the

00:55:31.420 guy is.

00:55:31.920 He wants it a certain way and you better freaking go along with it.

00:55:34.780 So, I think that's important.

00:55:36.480 Fundraising.

00:55:37.680 Someone who can go to the meetings with 14 millionaires to raise money when Donald Trump's

00:55:45.400 in front of 25,000 regular people.

00:55:47.540 You need the person who would go out on the campaign trail and do all that crap that Donald

00:55:52.260 Trump doesn't have to do it.

00:55:53.300 You have to be able to raise cash.

00:55:55.180 Like, this is a great argument for Tim Scott.

00:55:57.140 Tim Scott's really good at this.

00:55:59.060 Tim Scott can raise money.

00:56:01.860 You know, Doug Burgum and Burgumentum is one of the people in this conversation, oddly.

00:56:06.120 We'll get into the odds here in a second.

00:56:07.520 But, you know, Burgum has a lot of money.

00:56:09.940 He's very wealthy.

00:56:10.800 He has a lot of big business contacts.

00:56:12.440 He could probably raise a decent amount of money in this spot.

00:56:15.500 You want someone who's not going to flake out on that role.

00:56:18.080 It's an important role.

00:56:19.000 Doesn't help him electorally, you know, necessarily with numbers.

00:56:22.940 Right.

00:56:23.380 But except for the numbers that he could raise in funding.

00:56:29.140 Let me give you a couple of other basic ones.

00:56:31.000 Good with the media.

00:56:32.400 You know, J.D. Vance is, generally speaking, he's going to be good with the media.

00:56:35.980 You know, Christy Noem showed weakness there.

00:56:38.060 Yeah.

00:56:38.340 And, like, that's the type of thing that she would, you know, be an issue.

00:56:41.280 Addresses a specific group.

00:56:43.620 You know, like, you know, maybe this is the identity politics argument.

00:56:46.560 Do you want a Marco Rubio who's going to maybe address a different group than a J.D. Vance, right?

00:56:50.260 Or Tim Scott.

00:56:50.900 Or Tim Scott that's going to address that.

00:56:52.520 I have one more here for you.

00:56:53.740 We'll take a 60-second break and come back with it.

00:56:55.800 Because this one's a little on the controversial side.

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00:58:18.300 Pat and Stu, going over some of the attributes you think that Donald Trump is looking for in a vice president.

00:58:30.820 Yeah.

00:58:31.080 Here's my last one.

00:58:31.940 A bit controversial.

00:58:32.680 Maybe on the right.

00:58:33.380 We just talked about abortion.

00:58:34.480 You know how Pat and I feel about this issue.

00:58:36.120 I think it's vitally important.

00:58:37.420 So let's take that out of the equation for a second.

00:58:39.580 I think Donald Trump, who also believes this is an important issue and is largely responsible for the overturning of Roe versus Wade, something he does not run away from.

00:58:49.200 I do think that he looks pragmatically at this election and feels like someone who is too strong and outspoken on abortion would be a weakness.

00:58:58.840 I don't necessarily agree with him on that analysis.

00:59:01.780 He is kind of on record on it, right?

00:59:04.440 Like he said, Ron DeSantis and a six-week ban, which, by the way, just so you understand this, a six-week ban still allows for 60 or 40% of abortions.

00:59:16.360 40% of abortions happen before six weeks.

00:59:18.780 So a six-week ban still allows for 40%.

00:59:22.480 I just talked about a million children not being alive.

00:59:25.480 400,000 still go away with a six-week ban.

00:59:30.620 Donald Trump has said that it's too harsh.

00:59:32.320 His calculus there, I don't think, is because he has a lust for babies not being alive.

00:59:38.060 I think his calculation there is he believes it's not where the American people are.

00:59:44.340 And he believes it's going to hurt him in swing states.

00:59:46.860 And look, if he's not elected, we can all agree that abortion policy will largely get worse.

00:59:52.880 So there is a pragmatic argument for this.

00:59:55.420 Again, it's not the way I think about this issue.

00:59:57.840 But there is a pragmatic argument about this.

00:59:59.780 And I think someone in the Mike Pence mold who is very hard on this particular issue and unwavering on this issue does not feel to me to be the direction that Donald Trump wants to go this time.

01:00:12.220 I think he's looking for someone who can walk that line of, look, overturning Roe versus Wade was good.

01:00:18.700 Everyone agreed on that, which, of course, is not even close to accurate.

01:00:21.600 But I love the analysis and they all should have agreed on it.

01:00:25.960 Everyone agrees on that, but we need to, you know, this needs to be left up to the states.

01:00:29.680 Let's not make this the central election issue because the Democrats are going to try to make it the central election issue.

01:00:34.240 So there's definitely a pragmatic electoral argument for this to be made.

01:00:40.440 We've seen even in places like Kansas, we've seen ballot initiatives fail on the pro-life side.

01:00:47.200 So I understand that argument, but like it seems to me that it would work out the Mike Pence profile.

01:00:55.720 That person who is going to be a more religious conservative kind of out front, you know, you know, this to me maybe is, I don't, you know,

01:01:05.680 like at least Stefanik comes to mind, Nancy Mace comes to mind as someone who maybe isn't so outspoken about that issue and isn't essential to who they are.

01:01:16.280 Someone who might be able to kind of get more comfortable with looser restrictions on abortion and more understanding, you know, verbiage.

01:01:28.780 Again, I know how you feel on this, Pat.

01:01:31.060 You know how I feel on this.

01:01:32.380 Like, that's not where I am.

01:01:33.500 But I do think that's probably part of this calculus here.

01:01:37.500 Yeah, I think so, too.

01:01:38.280 I think he's made that fairly clear.

01:01:40.560 So we'll see.

01:01:42.800 You have the handicap of each of them, right?

01:01:44.780 You want to do this?

01:01:45.340 What are the odds?

01:01:46.160 We'll get to that.

01:01:47.220 What are the odds for these vice presidential candidates?

01:01:50.440 That's coming up with Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

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01:03:32.320 All right, we're going to get into the odds of vice presidential potentials for Donald Trump coming up in a second.

01:03:38.280 First, let's go to Chris in South Dakota, taking exception, perhaps, with what we're talking about with Christy Noem.

01:03:44.640 Hey, Chris.

01:03:45.820 Hey, guys.

01:03:46.400 How's it going?

01:03:46.960 Good, man.

01:03:47.240 How are you?

01:03:48.500 Good.

01:03:49.440 Yeah, I just want to say I've been a sick, twisted freak for a long time.

01:03:54.520 And don't hang up on me, but I even like Jeffy.

01:03:56.900 Oh, wow.

01:03:57.220 We are going to hang up on you.

01:03:58.360 Wow.

01:03:58.700 But that went too far.

01:04:00.080 That just went too far.

01:04:01.340 Yeah.

01:04:01.580 Yeah.

01:04:02.060 All right.

01:04:02.640 But yeah, I just want to say, you know, out here in South Dakota, a lot of people that I talk to don't really care.

01:04:08.700 I grew up on a pig farm, I grew up on a pig farm, and you don't like having to euthanize animals, but it's just something that you do.

01:04:16.240 You have to weigh it against everything else that's going on.

01:04:19.240 And yeah, I personally don't think it's that big of a deal.

01:04:23.560 Really?

01:04:23.980 First of all, typical Jeffy supporter here.

01:04:25.980 Yeah.

01:04:26.300 No, I'm all kidding.

01:04:27.080 Do you find a line between, like, you know, pigs and dogs, Chris?

01:04:34.460 Yeah, but it depends on what they're for.

01:04:37.620 Like, if it's a working dog, like, if it comes to a point where you need to euthanize them, you need to make that distinction.

01:04:42.780 And like I said, you don't like doing it, but it has to be done sometimes.

01:04:46.340 Yeah.

01:04:47.000 What about the judgment involved here in writing about it in a book?

01:04:50.620 What about that?

01:04:51.380 That, I would not.

01:04:52.420 Yeah, thank you.

01:04:53.500 Thank you.

01:04:54.120 You know the American people are not going to take to that.

01:04:56.520 I don't care.

01:04:57.080 If you live on a farm or you don't, I grew up in Montana, which is pretty rural.

01:05:00.760 Yeah.

01:05:01.120 At the time, there was, you know, 800,000 people in the whole stinking state.

01:05:04.980 There's more than that in probably my suburb.

01:05:07.020 So I understand that the rural mindset is different and that when you're on a farm, things are different.

01:05:13.580 But I've been on a lot of farms where people don't shoot their dogs.

01:05:17.500 You know, and they give them to other people or you take them to the Humane Society and they're euthanized there, but you're not shooting them in the head.

01:05:24.900 Yeah.

01:05:25.120 You know, and then to think, okay, you know what people are going to love is my story about taking my dog to the gravel pit and shooting it in the head.

01:05:33.960 Legitimately bragging about it, right?

01:05:35.380 I mean, that's, and like, you know, again, like I.

01:05:37.600 She was talked out of it, apparently, in her last book.

01:05:41.040 Yeah.

01:05:41.280 And she felt so strongly about telling the story that she decided, yeah, no, I'm going to do it this time.

01:05:46.500 And nobody could talk her out of it.

01:05:48.120 And that was her point, right?

01:05:48.980 I make tough decisions.

01:05:50.120 And I think this is part of Chris's point as well, where like, you know, no one wants to do that, right?

01:05:56.240 No one wants to be involved in it.

01:05:57.900 And farm life is different.

01:05:59.220 And we allow for that completely.

01:06:01.260 I will say, though, that like the little girl didn't come back and ask about the goat.

01:06:06.200 Right.

01:06:06.760 You know, the daughter didn't come back and say, hey, where's the dog?

01:06:10.100 Because, you know, you could say it's a working dog.

01:06:13.480 But the kid didn't come back and ask about the goat.

01:06:16.220 Right.

01:06:16.580 There is a, there's a line there.

01:06:18.320 And, and the central line here, which Chris also brought up, is the judgment.

01:06:23.920 Judgment.

01:06:24.020 You are not running for vice president of a farm.

01:06:27.200 Yeah, right.

01:06:28.360 You are running for vice president of the United States.

01:06:30.800 By the way, I'm the ticket with a man who's lived in Manhattan his whole life.

01:06:34.760 You think that's going to, like, it's not going to relate to him either.

01:06:37.960 I just think that you have to have awareness of how this goes.

01:06:40.540 And it's why I think, you know, her odds are, you know, dropping very, very quickly.

01:06:45.040 Yeah.

01:06:45.140 Now, she is on this list still.

01:06:46.740 Although, to me, I don't think she's on the list anymore.

01:06:49.260 I don't think she's, I think she's.

01:06:50.440 Was this prior to this controversy or?

01:06:53.040 I think it was after.

01:06:54.100 So, she did drop on this.

01:06:55.540 She would have been higher, I think.

01:06:56.640 This is from betonline.com.

01:06:58.940 Okay.

01:06:59.440 By the way.

01:07:00.280 So, what betonline.com has right now as the favorites for VP choice for Donald Trump.

01:07:05.500 Co-favorites at four to one odds.

01:07:08.180 Doug Burgum.

01:07:10.740 Wow.

01:07:11.320 And Tim Scott.

01:07:13.080 He is tied for the favorite?

01:07:15.020 It's incredible.

01:07:15.920 Doug Burgum?

01:07:17.520 Bergamentum.

01:07:19.200 Inaction, Pat.

01:07:20.080 I don't understand that.

01:07:21.320 How many times did I tell you, Pat, you're going to see Doug Burgum on this ticket?

01:07:24.840 I told you over and over again.

01:07:26.920 Bergamentum is here.

01:07:28.320 Bergamania is on the way.

01:07:29.800 Huh.

01:07:30.200 I guess I've forgotten most of the times when you've mentioned that.

01:07:34.080 Mainly, I just like to say Bergamentum a lot.

01:07:36.860 So, people, it's funny how many people have come back to me every time there's a report

01:07:41.020 about Doug Burgum potentially being the pick.

01:07:43.180 You called this!

01:07:44.440 Now, I did not.

01:07:45.620 I would like to take credit for it.

01:07:47.020 I did not call it.

01:07:48.380 It was more of just mockery about knowing who this guy was.

01:07:51.600 Now, look.

01:07:52.060 Doug Burgum has a pretty good record as the governor of North Dakota.

01:07:55.160 He was pretty good.

01:07:56.640 Certainly, economically, he was very strong.

01:07:58.200 As far as we know, he never shot his dog in North Dakota.

01:08:01.140 As far as we know, he hasn't bragged about it.

01:08:03.820 At least he didn't put it in a book.

01:08:05.100 Right.

01:08:05.340 At least he didn't put it in a book.

01:08:06.660 Right.

01:08:07.000 But, like, I just don't, I don't see it.

01:08:10.780 Do you see it?

01:08:11.780 No.

01:08:12.040 He screams to me Secretary of Agriculture or something.

01:08:14.940 Yes.

01:08:15.280 Like, Secretary, maybe energy, if you want to give him a high-profile gig.

01:08:18.620 Like, he has been loyal to Donald Trump going through these traits.

01:08:22.120 You know, he, you know, he can fundraise, certainly, and has a lot of money of his

01:08:26.720 own that he could spend, potentially, on a campaign.

01:08:29.220 Yeah.

01:08:29.560 There's some factors where you'd see he's good.

01:08:31.300 He's not very well known.

01:08:32.640 He's never been tested in any way like this.

01:08:35.300 But he is very unremarkable.

01:08:38.040 He's not going to stand out.

01:08:39.180 He's not going to try to outshine Donald Trump.

01:08:40.940 He's not from a populous state that could help Trump.

01:08:43.160 No, he doesn't have that going on for him.

01:08:44.460 You know, with electoral votes.

01:08:45.260 Nothing.

01:08:45.940 Yeah.

01:08:46.060 I mean, he brings nothing except, well, it's fundraising.

01:08:49.260 Other than that, he brings nothing to the table.

01:08:51.880 And I would like to think.

01:08:52.660 It's a weird pick.

01:08:53.480 That you're going to pick somebody who brings something to the ticket.

01:08:57.240 You know?

01:08:57.680 Yeah.

01:08:58.400 Electorally.

01:08:59.020 That can be important.

01:09:00.080 Yeah.

01:09:00.420 Now, I think Doug Burgum could do the job.

01:09:02.900 And obviously, that was left off of my list of traits.

01:09:05.160 Everyone would have to be capable of doing the job.

01:09:07.380 God forbid they had to take it.

01:09:09.720 But Burgum, it just doesn't strike me.

01:09:13.160 It seems a really boring vanilla choice from Donald Trump.

01:09:17.420 Now, he did do that with Pence.

01:09:19.700 So, I mean, maybe.

01:09:20.600 It seems like a less than vanilla.

01:09:21.800 It's almost like a broccoli choice.

01:09:23.580 I mean, it might be good for us, but I don't want to eat it.

01:09:26.780 Right.

01:09:28.300 And no salt.

01:09:29.560 It's steamed.

01:09:30.700 This isn't like broccoli, like where they've deep fried it and you can dip it in honey mustard.

01:09:34.700 It's not that.

01:09:35.980 Or you pour cheese all over it because it's Thanksgiving.

01:09:39.180 No.

01:09:40.180 No.

01:09:40.620 No one is not going to vote for Donald Trump because he picks Doug Burgum.

01:09:44.400 But he brings nobody new to the table.

01:09:46.480 Right.

01:09:47.260 Other than maybe some Burgum family members.

01:09:49.640 But he's tied for favorite.

01:09:50.840 Yeah.

01:09:51.240 With Tim Scott.

01:09:51.980 Now, Tim Scott brings some things to the table.

01:09:53.800 Yeah.

01:09:53.940 Tim Scott.

01:09:54.400 Like, again, I've been unimpressed by Tim Scott's campaign abilities.

01:09:59.600 Yeah.

01:09:59.760 And I like Tim Scott.

01:10:00.920 We've had him on the show a bunch of times.

01:10:02.340 Yep.

01:10:02.840 He just, he has not, he comes off as kind of weird and inauthentic at times to me.

01:10:09.700 And I don't know what that is.

01:10:10.980 That's kind of, I can't put that on paper.

01:10:13.400 It's a good way to put it though.

01:10:14.660 It feels like he's, you know.

01:10:16.260 Yeah, I think that's accurate.

01:10:17.240 And he was, you know, he tried to come on and say, basically talking about like how the,

01:10:21.540 you know, would he accept election results this weekend?

01:10:23.560 Again, this is the type of thing that Trump wants you to come out and say like, no, I'm

01:10:26.960 not going to do it if, if they're not real or, you know, if there, if there's some fraudulent,

01:10:31.560 he wants you to, he doesn't want you to say, of course I'll elect it or accept it no

01:10:35.180 matter what happens.

01:10:36.040 Trump probably doesn't want that.

01:10:37.400 But you, you could see Tim Scott trying to talk himself into it in the moment.

01:10:41.880 He just, I don't know.

01:10:43.320 Now he's a really good fundraiser.

01:10:45.140 Obviously the potential of maybe some gains in the African-American vote is something,

01:10:49.900 if you care about identity politics, it might be important.

01:10:52.060 And apparently, according to the last poll I saw, Trump's already up to 18% black support.

01:10:58.500 Yeah.

01:10:58.840 So 9% to 18.

01:11:01.380 So he's doubled.

01:11:02.360 This might be something to try to double down on and then expand that a little bit.

01:11:05.740 Right.

01:11:05.980 So that he, he's up there as well.

01:11:07.400 I think he's legitimately in the conversation.

01:11:09.560 I don't believe the Burgum stuff.

01:11:10.840 It has been reported and Trump seems to really like him, but I just don't buy that's where

01:11:16.200 he would go.

01:11:16.600 That's just a total guess on my point.

01:11:18.560 Next third in the, in the line here is JD Vance at five to one.

01:11:22.760 Vance to me strikes me as a very good vice presidential candidate for Donald Trump.

01:11:28.180 If he doesn't care about identity politics, if he doesn't mind putting another white dude

01:11:32.480 on the, on the ticket, Vance fits pretty much every one of my traits that I, I listed in

01:11:39.960 the front half hour.

01:11:41.000 I think he hits pretty much every single one of them with the exception of he doesn't address

01:11:45.720 a specific group per se, but I will put an asterisk next to that one.

01:11:49.940 He's not an identity politics winner.

01:11:51.500 If you care about that, which we are, of course, are all told that Donald Trump doesn't write

01:11:55.720 like he's never shown any real signs of being an identity politics guy.

01:11:59.700 Yet everyone tells me all the time he's going to pick a woman or a person of color.

01:12:03.000 I hear that all the time.

01:12:04.060 And it's like, well, I don't know.

01:12:05.020 Trump has never really shown that he cares about that stuff.

01:12:07.740 So last time, right.

01:12:08.500 He didn't last time.

01:12:09.260 He seems to be a guy.

01:12:09.960 Doesn't he trying to pick on what he believes merit based is the best candidate.

01:12:14.340 But anyway, with you could look at Vance and say, hey, this guy does not appeal to a specific

01:12:23.700 demographic group.

01:12:24.460 And I think you can make that argument.

01:12:25.820 The other thing that I would say is, is that the Midwestern thing is in a way a demographic

01:12:30.840 and it's a vital one.

01:12:33.640 The three most important states, if you had to rank them right now in no specific order

01:12:38.020 would be Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

01:12:40.340 If he can win, if you take the polls the way they are right now, those three states are

01:12:46.460 the only toss-up states, pure toss-ups.

01:12:49.620 Donald Trump would need to win one of them to win the presidency.

01:12:52.560 If you took the polls as they are right this second.

01:12:55.020 Now, Vance is from Ohio, but he's in that region, obviously.

01:13:01.580 He's bordering, you know, he's in this area, right?

01:13:05.860 Like he's got that down.

01:13:06.980 But also he, I think, hits that sort of blue-collar mentality of the region well.

01:13:13.200 He speaks the language of manufacturing leaving the country.

01:13:16.900 He knows that stuff really well.

01:13:19.440 He's good on television.

01:13:21.100 He is more of the attack dog vibe, which is totally different than Mike Pence.

01:13:25.120 But if Trump thinks that's what he needs here, to me, Vance, it might be the best pick.

01:13:29.160 If you take out identity politics completely, Vance seems to be the thing that would fit Donald Trump the best and also would give some sort of ideological legacy to Trumpism as a movement, if you will.

01:13:45.440 I mean, you know, Vance is probably the most outward person vocalizing Trump's ideological platform on a wide scale.

01:13:56.220 So I think that's an interesting one.

01:13:58.440 We're at five to one.

01:13:59.460 Then next up was Marco Rubio at eight to one.

01:14:02.360 And Rubio does some of these things well.

01:14:03.900 He can fundraise.

01:14:05.040 He might, he has a potential, you know, minority group, you know, I don't know, identity politics categories that you might like to check off.

01:14:16.660 There are some real disagreements there.

01:14:17.860 I mean, Rubio is much more of a person who, like, would favor funding for Ukraine, right?

01:14:24.380 Like, he is active when it comes to the world stage in a way that I don't think Donald Trump is.

01:14:30.140 Also, obviously, he had a major disagreements with Trump.

01:14:32.800 That's not always a negative.

01:14:33.740 Sometimes Trump likes it when people who haven't liked him have been won over.

01:14:37.940 So maybe that's okay.

01:14:38.960 They have healed that relationship, I think, largely.

01:14:40.780 It's getting along pretty well now with Ted Cruz.

01:14:42.260 Yep, with Cruz as well.

01:14:43.740 So, I don't know.

01:14:44.620 Rubio is, I think, a possibility.

01:14:45.960 It has been reported that he's on the short list.

01:14:49.720 Take that for what it's worth.

01:14:51.040 I mean, that may have been reported by people closely associated with Marco Rubio.

01:14:54.320 We don't know.

01:14:55.360 Two guys from Florida, though.

01:14:56.400 That might be a negative.

01:14:57.620 That is a big one.

01:14:58.340 You'd have to, almost definitely, you'd have to, Donald Trump would theoretically have to move.

01:15:03.040 And, again, move in quotes, right?

01:15:05.300 He already has places in New York and all over the country.

01:15:08.260 But it is a weird sort of thing that Trump would move for his VP.

01:15:12.620 That doesn't seem very Donald Trump-ish to me.

01:15:15.960 No, it doesn't.

01:15:16.700 So, I will put an asterisk next to that one.

01:15:18.620 And that applies to DeSantis as well, who I don't think, he's on this list at 33 to 1.

01:15:22.460 But I don't think there's any chance.

01:15:23.700 And I don't think DeSantis wants it.

01:15:25.400 Let me give you one more here.

01:15:26.880 We have time before break.

01:15:27.880 Tulsi Gabbard is at 9 to 1.

01:15:29.900 Oh, okay.

01:15:30.320 An interesting one.

01:15:32.100 What's interesting about Gabbard, and again, I will be honest with you, I really like Tulsi Gabbard.

01:15:37.400 I like when she comes on the show.

01:15:38.600 She's smart.

01:15:39.300 She does a lot of things.

01:15:39.980 I don't want her to be vice president of the United States.

01:15:42.020 This is a person who was running a campaign for Bernie Sanders eight years ago.

01:15:46.580 Just a few years ago, yeah.

01:15:47.300 This is, like, her under, she is not, she will tell you she's not a conservative.

01:15:52.500 And I, you know, look, Donald Trump's in his 70s, man.

01:15:55.840 You know, I, is he in much better health than Joe Biden?

01:15:59.060 Sure.

01:15:59.320 But, like, anything can happen.

01:16:01.680 And I do not want a guy, a person who's believed the right person to lead the country was Bernie Sanders this, in the past decade, to be president of the United States.

01:16:12.300 That terrifies me.

01:16:13.660 Yeah, me too.

01:16:14.260 But she does check a lot of these boxes.

01:16:16.380 Yeah.

01:16:16.700 You know, she, and particularly on the abortion stuff, she's not hardcore pro-lifer.

01:16:22.200 She would be able to speak that language.

01:16:24.100 If she's pro-life at all.

01:16:25.420 Is she?

01:16:25.840 Yeah, I don't think so.

01:16:26.600 I don't think she is.

01:16:27.400 She also could potentially be able to soften some of the things that Donald Trump comes off harshly with.

01:16:34.940 I mean, look, one of his weaknesses was suburban women.

01:16:37.620 You know, could Tulsi Gabbard speak to that crowd a little bit?

01:16:40.940 And she might appeal to independence.

01:16:42.700 And independence.

01:16:43.560 Yeah.

01:16:43.840 In a big way.

01:16:44.460 I think, and that's like, a lot of, RFK Jr. is on this list as well.

01:16:47.220 There's no chance of that happening.

01:16:48.340 He's actually currently running for president against Donald Trump.

01:16:50.940 However, he's at 33 to 1.

01:16:52.760 There was talk at one point of RFK Jr. being in that conversation.

01:16:55.700 The same type of talk, right?

01:16:57.940 Bring over those independents, in theory.

01:16:59.620 There's a couple more on the list we'll get to in a second.

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01:18:20.280 Let me give you a few more on this list here, Pat.

01:18:32.620 VP Possibilities and the Odds.

01:18:34.060 I think this is one I would drop a few dollars.

01:18:36.200 Elise Stefanik.

01:18:38.060 She is in house leadership.

01:18:40.260 Not super well-known, but it's done a great job on these campus protests.

01:18:43.420 She's been fantastic on this since October 7th.

01:18:45.380 She has some profile, has some of the checkboxes here that you might say.

01:18:49.880 Kristi Noem, as I mentioned, is 30.

01:18:51.140 What's her odds?

01:18:52.480 12 to 1, sorry.

01:18:53.460 12 to 1.

01:18:53.940 Kristi Noem is at 33 to 1.

01:18:56.100 A couple others to mention.

01:18:57.720 I think it's longer odds than that.

01:18:59.660 I think it's like 10 million to 1 now.

01:19:01.000 Yeah, I think it's zero.

01:19:01.900 There's no, there's just not, it's not happening.

01:19:03.540 Nikki Haley is at 40 to 1.

01:19:04.860 Again, not happening.

01:19:05.640 She's taken a different path, I think, quite clearly.

01:19:07.980 Vivek Ramaswamy is 33 to 1.

01:19:09.780 He's already ruled him out.

01:19:10.860 I don't know why he'd be on this list.

01:19:12.160 Let me give you a long shot that I think is interesting.

01:19:13.860 And I have to, Felix from Connecticut is on the line with this exact idea, but we don't

01:19:18.400 have time to get to him right now.

01:19:19.400 Is Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

01:19:20.880 Oh, wow.

01:19:21.260 An interesting one.

01:19:22.180 She's a governor of a state.

01:19:23.800 She obviously has shown loyalty to Trump.

01:19:25.920 There was some rumor that she did not endorse Trump in the primary quickly enough for Donald

01:19:31.600 Trump.

01:19:31.980 He was kind of annoyed she didn't immediately come out in that realm.

01:19:34.780 We'll see if that is a factor.

01:19:36.240 But, I mean, she's kind of, she checks off some of these boxes as well.

01:19:40.100 They do have people like Tucker Carlson listed.

01:19:42.060 What are her odds?

01:19:42.580 Oh, she's 40 to 1.

01:19:43.820 Okay.

01:19:44.120 And then Tucker Carlson, 50 to 1.

01:19:45.860 Byron Donalds is also 50 to 1.

01:19:47.800 He's not going to choose Tucker Carlson.

01:19:49.140 No, also Tucker, I don't think would do it.

01:19:50.860 No.

01:19:51.520 It doesn't seem to be much of a sense.

01:19:53.260 And then Field is 8 to 1, so any other person.

01:19:55.920 I would, if I'm sprinkling some cash in here, Pat, here's where I'm sprinkling.

01:20:00.200 I'm sprinkling someone on J.D. Vance at 5 to 1.

01:20:02.660 Sprinkling someone on Elise Stefanik at 12 to 1.

01:20:04.760 And some on, a little bit on Sarah Huckabee Sanders at 40 to 1.

01:20:08.560 And then I would put...

01:20:09.420 That's an interesting choice right there.

01:20:10.620 And I'd put someone on the field at 8 to 1.

01:20:13.860 You know, I mentioned Nancy Mace as a possibility.

01:20:15.940 There's a few that aren't on this list that you could see potentially rising to the top.

01:20:20.520 And there could very well be someone we haven't talked about, really.

01:20:23.400 I mean, Donald Trump owes the media nothing when it comes to leaking these people.

01:20:28.040 Yeah.

01:20:28.240 Occasionally he does do that, but it's very possible this person isn't centrally on our

01:20:32.260 radar at this point.

01:20:33.680 Yep.

01:20:34.500 We'll see.

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01:21:48.780 We're going to talk about a couple of Stu's favorite people on this planet in a minute.

01:21:54.720 I can't wait.

01:21:56.480 Man, you are so in love with these people.

01:22:00.740 I love them.

01:22:01.060 Why don't you marry him?

01:22:02.060 Yeah, I know.

01:22:02.820 Why don't you marry him is the question a lot of people will ask.

01:22:05.280 Should I divorce my wife and instead marry either Chris Cuomo or RFK Jr.?

01:22:09.580 Yeah.

01:22:11.000 I'm right on the fence on this one.

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01:23:44.780 potential candidates.

01:23:46.600 One of those candidates who's probably not a candidate because he seems to be running for

01:23:51.920 president himself is RFK Jr., whom you're a really big fan of.

01:23:57.280 I know you like RFK Jr. an awful lot, Stu.

01:24:00.380 I mean, I think if you listen to the show, you know I'm a fan of almost everybody who

01:24:03.860 tries to have Glenn executed at the hands of the state.

01:24:08.780 That's just, you know, it's one of my policies.

01:24:10.780 Yeah, but he's sworn that policy off.

01:24:12.960 Oh, I know.

01:24:14.260 I mean, all the way back to the 2020s.

01:24:16.880 Do you remember what you were like in the 2020s, Pat?

01:24:18.620 I don't, because I was only like four years old at the time.

01:24:21.780 I was four.

01:24:22.480 A lot of people don't have a lot of memories from that era of the 2020s when he said he

01:24:26.000 changed his mind on that.

01:24:28.120 Because he was still doing, he was still advocating for these policies of either, I mean, again,

01:24:33.520 to be fair on this, he only said that Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh should be treated like

01:24:40.440 traitors.

01:24:41.040 So I'm jumping to the conclusion that is in the Constitution of the United States that

01:24:48.060 death is the penalty for that.

01:24:50.020 So that is a big leap for me.

01:24:52.300 I believe the only crime that specified a penalty in the U.S. Constitution.

01:24:56.500 And, you know, when you do it over and over and over and over again, by the way, he did

01:24:59.200 it in front of hundreds of thousands of people, I should point out.

01:25:01.380 It wasn't just like a thing he said offhandedly to his wife, which one would it be when you're

01:25:06.440 talking about his wives.

01:25:07.140 But he is a wonderful character that should always be trusted.

01:25:11.980 And this is one of the things that happens, I think, in our society often.

01:25:14.980 People stick around in your public life for a long enough period of time.

01:25:18.380 Occasionally they agree with you on particular issues.

01:25:21.220 I mean, there's many.

01:25:22.760 There are certain things that RFK Jr. is saying today, today, that I agree with.

01:25:29.260 Yes.

01:25:29.640 There was a few things.

01:25:31.380 He's quite good on Bitcoin, for example.

01:25:33.020 Yeah.

01:25:33.260 He seems to be one of the...

01:25:34.400 He seems to be pretty good on the border.

01:25:37.140 Lately.

01:25:38.040 Vaccine mandates.

01:25:39.260 Vaccine mandates.

01:25:39.980 The border one.

01:25:40.760 Yeah.

01:25:41.020 I'm sorry.

01:25:41.940 I just don't believe it at all.

01:25:43.220 You don't buy.

01:25:43.720 But I do believe...

01:25:45.460 I certainly believe he really...

01:25:47.240 Like, the vaccine mandates thing is...

01:25:48.680 Oh, yeah.

01:25:49.100 He goes farther than I do on that, as you know.

01:25:50.840 Yeah.

01:25:51.240 But he is a...

01:25:52.240 He's rock solid on that.

01:25:53.220 He's been that way for a very long time.

01:25:55.460 There are certain things he's...

01:25:56.080 Well, he just doesn't like vaccines.

01:25:57.600 Yeah.

01:25:58.040 I mean, he would not call himself anti-vaccine.

01:26:01.660 Which is amazing to me.

01:26:02.920 Come on.

01:26:03.740 Of course he's anti-vaccine.

01:26:04.640 Look, it's okay.

01:26:05.680 Just...

01:26:06.040 It's fine.

01:26:06.440 Whatever you think, just say what you believe.

01:26:08.080 I don't know why...

01:26:08.740 I don't know why that's a thing, because is there anybody more outspoken against vaccines

01:26:13.580 than RFK Jr.?

01:26:15.340 I don't think so.

01:26:16.300 Very central to his persona.

01:26:17.660 Now, he would...

01:26:18.180 I think his kids have been vaccinated, and he'll give you reasons why he's not.

01:26:23.420 I think that word just has a negative connotation to it, so people don't want to say it.

01:26:27.280 But I mean, look, it's quite clear that this has been central to him, and because it was

01:26:32.440 central to him before COVID, it was easy for him to come out on the right side when it

01:26:35.960 comes to mandates, right?

01:26:37.120 He was right on that from the beginning, and I give him credit for that.

01:26:40.200 There's other things he's right on.

01:26:41.380 He's also wrong on almost everything.

01:26:43.500 I mean, he is...

01:26:44.300 I mean, from abortion to...

01:26:45.640 Abortion to global warming is by far the worst to me when it comes to his views.

01:26:51.520 Affirmative action.

01:26:52.940 I mean, he is...

01:26:54.480 I mean, this is a man who heaped praise on Hugo Chavez.

01:27:01.280 Jeez.

01:27:02.280 I forgot about that.

01:27:03.480 He just shoveled it on, and this has nothing to do with his personal life, which is a catastrophe

01:27:10.640 from beginning to end.

01:27:12.940 Yes, he had a traumatic childhood, for sure, but I'm talking about the way he's treated

01:27:17.420 women in his life, which people like, oh, Stormy Daniel.

01:27:22.040 Donald Trump is a saint, a literal marriage...

01:27:26.620 He should run a marriage conference compared to RFK Jr.

01:27:32.860 I don't even want to go down the road.

01:27:34.320 I'll stop before I go too far.

01:27:35.820 My point, though, is that, gosh, it often seems that RFK Jr. says the thing that benefits

01:27:41.060 him at the time.

01:27:41.760 Right now, when he was running, you know, right now he's trying to run as an independent,

01:27:47.380 and he's trying to get people who are voting for Donald Trump to come over and vote for

01:27:53.280 him.

01:27:53.780 So he accentuates his newfound border expertise.

01:27:59.140 His, you know, hey, I swear I'm no longer going to execute the hosts you listen to every

01:28:04.540 day.

01:28:06.540 I promise these policies that are just so newly found are now at the forefront of everything

01:28:14.600 that he says because he's trying to win voters away from Donald Trump.

01:28:18.860 That's what he cares about today.

01:28:21.700 What does he care about when he's president?

01:28:23.880 Not that.

01:28:24.920 What he cares about when he's president is putting people who disagree with this global warming

01:28:28.620 nonsense behind bars, if not worse.

01:28:31.380 And God only knows what else he does.

01:28:33.940 So I have no warm feelings towards this person.

01:28:38.040 Glenn, look, Glenn is...

01:28:40.240 Seemed to like his interview.

01:28:42.040 He did.

01:28:42.480 To be fair, he came in after being drugged.

01:28:46.540 Glenn did?

01:28:47.660 He was drugged?

01:28:49.160 He had come out of a doctor's appointment.

01:28:51.240 Oh, okay.

01:28:51.940 And I said, I'm like, I just don't think this is the moment for Glenn.

01:28:56.720 Because, you know, he came out after...

01:29:00.260 I'm joking about him being drugged, but he did come out after a doctor's appointment.

01:29:03.060 I don't think he was at his...

01:29:04.560 As he said, he's like, I don't think I was at my best.

01:29:07.360 And like...

01:29:07.980 Okay.

01:29:09.280 There's two ways to go with an RFK Jr.

01:29:10.860 conversation.

01:29:13.260 And I think he...

01:29:14.780 Glenn has had conversations with RFK where he's held every one of his horrible viewpoints

01:29:18.760 to task.

01:29:19.260 They'd already done that.

01:29:20.320 So there was more of a reason to just explore the things that maybe they agree on and other

01:29:23.760 reasons.

01:29:24.220 And I think there's no problem with that conversation at all.

01:29:26.600 Whatever.

01:29:27.840 No issues with that.

01:29:29.620 But I do think at this point, it is important for conservatives to understand who this guy

01:29:34.520 is and who he has been forever.

01:29:37.220 Yeah.

01:29:37.820 I mean...

01:29:38.320 Yeah, it is.

01:29:39.100 It is important because there's too many Republicans saying, you know who's pretty good that I might

01:29:44.140 vote for RFK.

01:29:45.860 No.

01:29:46.720 No.

01:29:47.280 He's bad on almost everything you believe in.

01:29:49.800 There's a few issues that you might come close together on.

01:29:53.260 But mostly, he is a flaming progressive, flaming liberal.

01:29:59.420 And he has been his whole life.

01:30:01.520 Has he changed a little bit on a few issues?

01:30:03.960 I guess.

01:30:05.560 But even on those issues, some of us are a little bit skeptical, it seems.

01:30:11.060 One of those people, it might be Stu Bergeer, who's just a bit skeptical that he's changed

01:30:17.080 on any of these things.

01:30:17.980 Yeah.

01:30:18.220 Some of them, maybe he has changed.

01:30:20.060 Look, I mean, I think it would be difficult to be a person like RFK Jr., who spends his

01:30:25.320 whole life dedicated to, you know, something like, you know, warning people about vaccines.

01:30:29.100 Yeah.

01:30:29.280 And then see what happened during COVID and not have that change you in some way.

01:30:33.220 Yeah.

01:30:33.460 I mean, you have to be soulless, which, by the way, RFK Jr. might very well be.

01:30:38.500 However, if he's not soulless, there's a chance, an outside chance that maybe this did wake

01:30:44.720 him up to the problems with centralized power.

01:30:47.920 I mean, he was a victim of this censorship that he himself advocated for decades, but he

01:30:55.900 was a victim of it.

01:30:56.980 And sometimes when you argue for something and then you become a victim of your own

01:31:00.900 policy, it does change you a little bit.

01:31:04.020 It's been amazing to see some of these people change over the last few years because there

01:31:09.460 have been a number of examples.

01:31:12.020 And RFK Jr. is just one.

01:31:15.020 How about how Chris Cuomo has supposedly changed over the last few years?

01:31:22.960 That one's fascinating.

01:31:23.740 I mean, OK, he was on CNN.

01:31:27.000 Now he's not.

01:31:28.020 And it seems like when people leave CNN, some of that programming seems to dissipate a bit,

01:31:34.720 doesn't it?

01:31:35.060 Somehow we were able to do shows over at CNN Headline News, at least, and not have the issue

01:31:39.580 of running away from all of our principles.

01:31:41.540 I don't know.

01:31:42.000 No one else seems to be able to do that.

01:31:43.400 But just to give you an example of how much this guy has changed, here's Chris Cuomo, four

01:31:49.440 years ago, talking to Don Lemon during that crossover talk they do between the shows.

01:31:54.800 Check this out.

01:31:55.520 This is Cut 18.

01:31:56.780 People who are getting, injecting drugs for animals and horse.

01:32:02.080 And people telling them to.

01:32:03.800 Oh my God.

01:32:04.360 What person, you know, you talk about cancel culture and who to shame, ivermectin, a dewormer?

01:32:11.380 Really?

01:32:11.840 They are shaming themselves.

01:32:13.460 No one has to shame them.

01:32:14.600 They're shaming themselves by doing that.

01:32:15.640 No, they need to be shamed.

01:32:16.620 They need to be called out and shamed, brother.

01:32:19.040 I love it.

01:32:19.720 Oh my God.

01:32:20.400 I hadn't heard that clip in a while, man.

01:32:22.200 What person would suggest that you take ivermectin?

01:32:27.400 What kind of moron?

01:32:29.240 A dewormer?

01:32:30.440 We need to shame these people.

01:32:32.580 For horses.

01:32:33.600 You're taking horse paste?

01:32:37.260 Here's Chris Cuomo today.

01:32:40.860 I'll tell you something else that's going to get you a lot of hits.

01:32:44.600 I am taking a, what do they call it?

01:32:49.300 Like a regular dose, you know, whatever.

01:32:52.540 They're trying to build up of ivermectin.

01:32:55.400 Wait, what person?

01:32:56.580 Ivermectin was a boogeyman early on in COVID.

01:32:58.760 You should be shamed.

01:32:59.620 That was wrong.

01:33:01.680 We were given bad information about ivermectin.

01:33:04.800 We were.

01:33:05.360 The real question is why?

01:33:07.160 We were too.

01:33:08.040 Everyone's going to say Joe Rogan was right.

01:33:10.300 No, Joe Rogan was saying, yeah, he was right.

01:33:12.920 But that's, that's not what matters.

01:33:15.080 What matters is the entire clinical community knew that ivermectin couldn't hurt you.

01:33:19.100 Yeah.

01:33:19.580 They knew it, Patrick.

01:33:20.820 I know they knew it.

01:33:22.060 How do I know?

01:33:22.700 Because now I'm doing nothing but talking to these clinicians who at the time were overwhelmed by COVID and they weren't saying anything.

01:33:29.520 Not that they were hiding anything, but it's cheap.

01:33:32.600 It's not owned by anybody.

01:33:34.260 And it's used as an antimicrobial, antiviral, and all of these different ways it has been for a long time.

01:33:40.380 For malaria for over almost 20 years.

01:33:42.560 Yeah.

01:33:42.960 So, and my doctor, who is now my doctor, was using it during COVID on her family and on patients.

01:33:49.160 No.

01:33:49.720 And it was working for them.

01:33:50.780 What person?

01:33:51.140 Unbelievable.

01:33:52.020 What person would.

01:33:52.780 They were wrong to play scared on that.

01:33:54.960 They were wrong.

01:33:55.560 Not he.

01:33:55.920 Didn't know that.

01:33:56.160 Not the guy on CNN.

01:33:58.000 Admit it now.

01:33:58.340 You can stop there.

01:33:58.920 The most trusted name in news who went on and said that you should be shamed for considering taking it.

01:34:05.680 Right.

01:34:06.100 They were wrong.

01:34:07.060 They were wrong.

01:34:07.460 They were telling us.

01:34:08.820 Oh, what a dirtbag this guy is.

01:34:09.400 Yeah, they were telling us that too, and we didn't go along with it, because some of

01:34:12.940 us were using our own noodles.

01:34:15.440 Why is it that he couldn't?

01:34:16.680 What a dirtbag.

01:34:18.060 Oh my gosh.

01:34:18.880 Honestly, it has.

01:34:19.780 It's unbelievable to me.

01:34:20.500 This is not a commercial for ivermectin.

01:34:22.660 No.

01:34:22.940 If you think it's the right thing for you to do, take it.

01:34:24.940 If you don't, don't.

01:34:26.140 It came from a big pharmaceutical company too.

01:34:29.400 So none of this matters.

01:34:31.520 It has nothing to do with ivermectin.

01:34:33.640 It has to do with Chris Cuomo being a horrible human being in every aspect of his life.

01:34:38.560 Look at this.

01:34:39.000 Listen to this guy.

01:34:39.540 And what bothers me about this is the other thing that came out about Chris Cuomo is now

01:34:44.200 he's claiming to be vaccine injured.

01:34:46.700 Yes, that's amazing.

01:34:48.240 That's amazing.

01:34:49.440 There are absolutely people who were vaccine injured.

01:34:53.260 Okay?

01:34:53.440 This is a real group of people.

01:34:55.140 Those people should have their claims heard.

01:34:57.620 Okay?

01:34:58.040 Mm-hmm.

01:34:58.980 There is zero reason to believe Chris Cuomo is one of these people.

01:35:04.600 Zero reason.

01:35:05.760 Why?

01:35:07.360 Chris Cuomo is allergic to telling the truth.

01:35:12.020 Everything he says is something built on what he believes will benefit him

01:35:19.340 at that moment.

01:35:20.560 Here he is on CNN saying you should be publicly shamed for taking ivermectin.

01:35:28.040 Yeah.

01:35:28.120 Because at that moment that he's talking with Don Lemon in his calculus,

01:35:34.640 it benefits him to say that thing at that time.

01:35:39.440 Now he's on, was it Patrick Bedavid, I believe?

01:35:42.920 A more right-leaning podcaster?

01:35:45.720 Yeah.

01:35:45.880 Now he's invisible.

01:35:49.280 No one talks about him anymore.

01:35:51.740 He's on a right-leaning con, just like RFK Jr.

01:35:55.380 goes on these right-leaning podcasts.

01:35:56.960 And all of a sudden he's friendly to all their viewpoints.

01:36:00.100 Yeah.

01:36:00.260 Now he gets to say this.

01:36:02.300 It is.

01:36:03.580 I know.

01:36:04.040 Remember, this man not only lied about being in quarantine

01:36:11.600 because he was actually out of it fighting with people on bicycles,

01:36:15.820 but then he also lied about coming out of quarantine live on the air.

01:36:20.920 Oh, that's right.

01:36:21.520 He lies about everything all the time.

01:36:25.940 This is a guy who is helping Andrew Cuomo write his get-out-of-jail speeches

01:36:34.220 while he's on CNN, helping him massage the women his brother was touching.

01:36:42.340 And if people don't remember going back before he was Mr. Vaccine Proponent and Mr. Ivermectin

01:36:50.580 Shamer on CNN, before that, his wife ran a magazine called Purist.

01:36:57.940 This is like, you know, Gwyneth Paltrow's goop if you want less peasants around you

01:37:05.560 because it was like Hampton's goop, okay?

01:37:09.940 And it was, he himself and his wife was talking about how they were treating these things with

01:37:16.420 like broths.

01:37:17.700 They were brewing up in, treating his COVID with broths they grew up in their kitchen

01:37:21.800 with a woman who was his doctor, who was not licensed in the state they lived in,

01:37:27.520 who was the founder of the Light Harmonics Institute,

01:37:32.540 who was telling them about magnetic vibes and how that can cure your illnesses.

01:37:38.980 Because at that time around his Hamptons friends, that benefited him.

01:37:44.400 And then he was on CNN and at that time saying the vaccine was wonderful and should be required

01:37:50.340 and Ivermectin was evil, that benefited him.

01:37:53.180 And you were evil if you didn't get the vaccine because you were harming others.

01:37:57.300 Right.

01:37:57.780 And now at the time, he's on a conservative podcast and he's invisible and needs to make news.

01:38:02.960 At that time, he's vaccine injured and on Ivermectin.

01:38:06.720 It's not that vaccine injury isn't real.

01:38:08.840 It is.

01:38:09.760 It's not that Ivermectin might not have, but who knows what happened?

01:38:12.320 You can go through all this stuff.

01:38:13.540 The bottom line is there is no reason to believe Chris Cuomo about anything he says.

01:38:17.940 Anything.

01:38:18.200 Nobel Prize winning medicine, by the way, in 2015.

01:38:20.680 Yeah.

01:38:21.060 Right?

01:38:21.620 Which everyone knew at the time.

01:38:23.720 Yeah.

01:38:23.900 Which we said on the air a thousand times over.

01:38:26.360 And Chris Cuomo, because it benefited him at that moment, went on the air and denied it on CNN.

01:38:32.140 888-727-BECK.

01:38:33.460 More coming up.

01:38:34.060 One minute.

01:38:34.720 He sucks.

01:38:35.740 Did I make that clear?

01:38:36.980 No, I wasn't getting that.

01:38:38.500 Really?

01:38:38.820 All right.

01:38:39.480 No, Chris Cuomo?

01:38:40.880 Hmm.

01:38:41.360 Chris Cuomo.

01:38:42.080 All right.

01:38:42.460 All right.

01:38:42.920 Let me, by the way, Chris Cuomo is worse.com.

01:38:45.960 Andrew Cuomo is awful.com.

01:38:47.320 There you go.

01:38:48.740 Wait, which one is worse?

01:38:50.460 Andrew Cuomo.

01:38:51.100 Chris or Andrew?

01:38:51.700 Andrew Cuomo was awful.com.

01:38:52.980 Okay.

01:38:53.200 Chris Cuomo is worse.com.

01:38:54.980 Okay.

01:38:55.440 Okay.

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01:39:05.720 Not only have the attacks increased from both Hamas and Hezbollah since October 7th,

01:39:09.720 but they have just understandably rejected the joke of a ceasefire proposal coming from

01:39:14.420 Hamas.

01:39:15.000 Israel is saying, no, we're not going to do that.

01:39:17.020 We're going to, we want our hostages back.

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01:40:20.820 10 seconds, station ID.

01:40:21.740 You don't like Chris Cuomo?

01:40:31.880 You know that Chris Cuomo, when he had COVID, claimed his fever spiked because there was

01:40:38.040 a full moon?

01:40:39.780 What?

01:40:40.100 His wife wrote, a fever of 99 with an afternoon spike to 101.5 and an evening spike aggravated

01:40:46.520 by the full moon.

01:40:50.160 Wow.

01:40:50.560 He had...

01:40:51.360 So it controls the tide and fevers?

01:40:55.300 Mm-hmm.

01:40:55.760 I didn't realize that.

01:40:56.380 He tried to treat COVID-19 with passion flower and olive leaf.

01:41:02.860 What do you have against the olive leaf?

01:41:04.520 Maybe that works, but it's certainly not consistent with a guy who was telling you you had to

01:41:07.340 get the vaccine and you couldn't take ivermectin.

01:41:09.240 Right.

01:41:09.440 Does it?

01:41:10.220 Because...

01:41:10.620 Horse paste!

01:41:11.620 It's horse paste!

01:41:12.940 They should be shaved!

01:41:14.160 They should be shaved!

01:41:15.180 What person, what person would tell you to take horse paste?

01:41:20.120 I don't know.

01:41:20.740 You?

01:41:21.620 How about a broth of...

01:41:22.620 You?

01:41:22.980 Let me ask you this about this.

01:41:23.900 Let me just run this broth by you real quick.

01:41:25.640 Okay.

01:41:26.560 All right.

01:41:27.440 The treatments, this is the words of Chris Cuomo's wife, who described the COVID-19

01:41:31.860 quote treatments as a broth of cayenne pepper, ginger, garlic, lemon, or ginger tea with

01:41:42.100 vitamin C. Now, are those things good?

01:41:44.100 They might be delicious.

01:41:44.860 You might love them.

01:41:45.560 They might cure COVID-19.

01:41:46.760 Who knows?

01:41:47.200 But this is not consistent with a person who went on the air a few weeks after that

01:41:51.860 and yelled at everyone in America that they couldn't take ivermectin because it was horse

01:41:56.040 paste.

01:41:56.720 Right.

01:41:57.340 It's just like this...

01:41:57.900 Right.

01:41:58.220 He has absolutely no foundational center.

01:42:03.140 It's whatever he needs at that moment.

01:42:04.820 You are one of the worst scumbags on earth if you weren't getting vaccinated.

01:42:09.300 Right?

01:42:09.660 Because you're endangering, you're killing old people.

01:42:12.440 How many times were we told that by he and others in CNN over and over and over and over

01:42:17.660 what bad people we were?

01:42:18.040 But now we're supposed to feel bad for him.

01:42:19.260 Yeah.

01:42:19.540 Now we're supposed to sympathize with him.

01:42:21.280 I've seen injured.

01:42:21.980 Oh, okay.

01:42:22.580 Sure, sure, Chris.

01:42:23.240 All right.

01:42:23.440 Sure you are.

01:42:24.160 Mm-hmm.

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01:43:55.720 He had a detransitioner on, someone who had gone through the gender transition stuff, trying

01:44:00.100 now to undo all the harm.

01:44:02.180 Her name was Luca Hine.

01:44:04.600 And here she is talking about when she first realized her mistake.

01:44:08.620 So you had your breasts removed.

01:44:11.060 Yes.

01:44:11.900 Thank God you didn't get a hysterectomy.

01:44:14.200 When did you realize it was a mistake?

01:44:17.140 When I was 20 years old.

01:44:18.660 And then what happened?

01:44:21.660 How did you...

01:44:23.040 And then everything felt like it came crashing apart.

01:44:28.220 It felt like I had been so disassociated from my body that when it all came back together,

01:44:34.000 it felt like the emotional equivalent of being hit by a bus.

01:44:37.120 They lied to your parents, didn't they?

01:44:39.440 They, when, I think you had to go for breast surgery when you had your breasts removed.

01:44:45.640 But there was a time when the doctors were covering all of this with your parents.

01:44:51.500 Is that true?

01:44:52.960 My parents were never made aware of the fact that the majority of children with this kind

01:44:58.720 of distress could grow out of it.

01:45:00.920 Or that there was another, there could be something else causing my distress.

01:45:06.460 Once the gender topic was brought up, it felt like anything that had happened to me in the

01:45:11.460 past few years, including very serious stuff, like being groomed and sexual trauma.

01:45:17.620 That just got pushed to the side.

01:45:20.120 It was like I said, the magic words by bringing up the gender topic.

01:45:23.960 Jeez.

01:45:24.760 Wow.

01:45:25.540 So sad.

01:45:26.440 Yeah, it really is.

01:45:27.760 They just did a study, I think it was in Denmark, about kids who, in fact, it's the first,

01:45:34.420 I think it's the first study of its kind, that's this extensive.

01:45:38.940 And it's from 15 years ago, where 10 and 11 year olds were tracked with this gender dysphoria.

01:45:45.680 And then how do you feel 15 years later now?

01:45:48.540 And it is staggering how many of them were uncomfortable, but as they grew and got through

01:45:56.040 puberty, they became comfortable with themselves and didn't need that transformation.

01:46:04.580 And many of them did not have it.

01:46:06.860 And then it went away.

01:46:08.960 I mean, what a surprise that, you know, something that starts when you're 9 or 10 or 11 years

01:46:13.700 old and you think is a problem, turns out not to be later on.

01:46:17.900 Huh.

01:46:18.780 Who would have thought?

01:46:19.420 You have to disassociate yourself with everything you've learned since you were born.

01:46:23.580 Yeah.

01:46:23.860 To go along with this.

01:46:24.660 Like, if you think about like, oh, these kids, they, you know, they're going through

01:46:28.000 these things and they're having these difficult times.

01:46:30.200 You have to like disconnect with everything you know about a nine-year-old, right?

01:46:34.720 A nine-year-old has all sorts of thoughts that aren't realistic.

01:46:38.240 They're nine.

01:46:39.280 Yeah.

01:46:39.620 They're not supposed to be analyzing the world and their future in that way.

01:46:43.200 That's not their job.

01:46:44.280 Right.

01:46:44.960 It's just incredible that this has become somehow the accepted way to go.

01:46:48.940 The, the humanitarian way to go is to let kids chop themselves up because maybe, just

01:46:55.160 maybe they'll think that's the right thing.

01:46:57.020 And regardless of all this, the asking of everyone else on the planet, essentially to, to enact

01:47:07.440 compelled speech, we must say X, Y, and Z about these people because they requested, which

01:47:14.300 is totally against the American principle of free speech.

01:47:17.500 I mean, like, you know, we are talking like, oh, we're getting censored online.

01:47:20.520 That's against free speech.

01:47:21.340 I mean, you could see how that connects, right?

01:47:23.060 There's connective tissue there.

01:47:24.280 It's not a fundamental, you know, its basis.

01:47:27.160 It's not a, necessarily a first amendment violation, but it is something that is consistent

01:47:31.820 with the principles of free speech to not censor people.

01:47:34.880 Take that out for a second though.

01:47:36.680 Think about instead about compelling, forcing someone to say something, right?

01:47:44.740 Saying you must use X, Y, or Z pronoun for someone that is compelled speech.

01:47:50.040 And the Supreme court has ruled against that over and over and over and over again.

01:47:53.400 Not to mention it's, you don't even need the Supreme court.

01:47:55.660 It's obvious.

01:47:56.160 You can't force someone to say something they don't believe.

01:47:59.440 This happened recently in the Supreme court with a, a case.

01:48:02.620 I want to say it was in California with, it was a, like a, they passed a law saying, if

01:48:09.080 you were involved in like family planning, you had to have posters promoting abortion

01:48:14.420 up in your facility.

01:48:15.460 And these religious organizations were like, wait a minute, our whole, our whole mission

01:48:20.580 here is to direct people away from this.

01:48:22.460 And you want us to put up posters promoting it.

01:48:24.160 And the Supreme court said, they don't have to put up posters promoting, you're compelling

01:48:27.720 their speech to say something they don't believe in.

01:48:31.420 That is a, uh, obvious to the American people that that shouldn't happen.

01:48:35.780 And, you know, it might be central to, you know, the Soviet union, but not this country.

01:48:42.380 And yet they're acting as if not only are we going to entertain these delusions of people

01:48:50.260 who are going through something may be very difficult, but also all of us have to become

01:48:54.640 complicit in this lie.

01:48:56.440 No, no, no, no.

01:48:59.800 And it's interesting when you get these, um, boneheads in front of you and you ask them

01:49:06.500 reasonable questions about this whole gender situation and whether or not, uh, biological

01:49:14.900 girls have to be tolerant of biological males undressing in front of them in a locker room

01:49:21.920 and competing against them in sports.

01:49:23.880 And it's all fine now with the Biden administration, they just completely turned title nine on

01:49:30.600 its head.

01:49:31.100 And it's not about protecting women anymore or supporting women.

01:49:34.860 It's about the opposite really, uh, with this transgender, transgender situation.

01:49:40.240 Um, there was, uh, a hearing with, uh, education secretary, um, the other day, I think it was

01:49:46.700 yesterday and Burgess Owens was asking him a really important questions.

01:49:51.120 Cut 20, check this out, uh, secretary, Mr. Secretary, you're in a very unique position

01:49:55.740 to impact the lives, futures, and fortunes of means of female athletes.

01:49:59.420 Americans of both sides of this debate need to know how deep your commitment is.

01:50:03.940 Would you force your daughter to undress in the bathroom with boys who are also undressing?

01:50:10.300 I am not going to be commenting on athletics.

01:50:12.940 Well, we haven't, okay.

01:50:13.860 All right.

01:50:14.520 You, you can't say yes or no on that.

01:50:17.880 I'd be happy to talk about a title.

01:50:19.780 If your, if your daughter was reported, she felt uncomfortable in a boy's presence in

01:50:24.060 a bathroom or locker room, would that be considered by your administration, discrimination or bigotry?

01:50:31.880 As a educator for over 25 years, you can't say yes or no to that.

01:50:36.080 I'd love to respond to your questions.

01:50:37.800 Okay.

01:50:38.020 So yes or no, is it considered, would it be considered discrimination?

01:50:40.960 She did not want that to happen.

01:50:42.040 As an educator for over 25 years, we have had the responsibility for this.

01:50:46.440 Okay, all right.

01:50:47.040 I don't have but a few more, a few minutes here.

01:50:48.940 Girls have now entered into contact sports of boxing and wrestling.

01:50:53.100 Would you allow your daughter to physically fight and get beat up by a boy who called himself a girl?

01:50:58.720 Yes or no?

01:50:59.160 I'd be happy to, once we finalize our regulations on Title IX athletics, to come back and have a conversation with you.

01:51:06.880 Let me just say this real quick.

01:51:08.840 There's a question about Title IX athletics.

01:51:09.520 A Cherokee proverb that says, a man's highest calling is to protect women.

01:51:14.340 So she is free to walk the earth unharmed.

01:51:16.820 I'll say this, Mr. Secretary, before I go on to this next topic.

01:51:23.180 With all due respect, I pray that our country will never, ever have the vision that your policies are now driving us toward in terms of manhood.

01:51:33.260 It's a vision that teaches our boys that harming girls is no big deal.

01:51:36.620 I pray that we remain a country that produces overwhelmingly mass majorities of men who feel the way I do about my girls.

01:51:43.400 I will give my life in a heartbeat for my girls.

01:51:47.620 And the blessings I have is they have no doubts about that.

01:51:50.920 There are millions of men and women across this country that do not have faith, do not have trust in you protecting our girls because of policies you can't say yes or no to.

01:52:01.820 By the way, those are not very hard questions as a father.

01:52:05.380 It's either yes or no, and you could not answer that.

01:52:07.640 That's amazing.

01:52:08.960 And that happens time after time after time.

01:52:10.760 They refuse to answer those questions.

01:52:12.260 These were not questions about Title IX.

01:52:14.780 They were questions about what he would do with his daughter and whether he feels like it would be discrimination.

01:52:18.840 Most of them at least weren't Title IX related.

01:52:20.440 They were fatherhood related.

01:52:21.840 And of course, he can't answer it because everyone knows the answer.

01:52:25.500 And if he says it, he's making his own policies look terrible, which they are.

01:52:31.160 They are terrible.

01:52:32.980 And he just highlighted it.

01:52:34.420 I like Burgess Owens.

01:52:35.440 Yeah, I do too.

01:52:36.120 Yeah.

01:52:36.580 Despite what he did to the Philadelphia Eagles in that Super Bowl.

01:52:38.920 So, you know, that's a whole nother story.

01:52:41.900 But I will hold that against him for his entire life.

01:52:45.560 But I do like him.

01:52:46.140 And really, that's the pertinent point, isn't it?

01:52:48.500 I mean, for me, it is.

01:52:49.960 I have very strange priorities, though.

01:52:51.380 That's what he did against the Philadelphia Eagles.

01:52:53.160 That's what he – I mean, hard to argue that.

01:52:56.020 Yeah.

01:52:56.620 Hard to argue.

01:52:57.300 I don't know why the Secretary of Education would bring that up or whatever he is, whichever one it was.

01:53:02.500 Speaking of football, you know, our president was in Wisconsin yesterday talking about football.

01:53:07.860 And it is – it's fun to watch him try to pander to Wisconsinites by bringing Green Bay into a discussion where it doesn't belong.

01:53:20.120 But he tried to twist it into that.

01:53:22.640 This is –

01:53:23.720 What?

01:53:24.960 This is – this is cut 11.

01:53:27.800 All right.

01:53:28.280 Here he is.

01:53:28.440 I went to Catholic high school in Delaware.

01:53:32.300 Okay.

01:53:33.080 Taught by the Norbertine priests.

01:53:35.520 Oh, all right.

01:53:35.980 Okay.

01:53:36.520 From St. Norbert's College.

01:53:37.940 You know what?

01:53:38.640 Sure.

01:53:38.820 A little team called Green Bay.

01:53:41.280 Wait, what?

01:53:42.480 Where'd that come from?

01:53:43.580 Now, here's the deal.

01:53:44.980 What?

01:53:46.200 Here's the deal.

01:53:47.460 High school in Delaware.

01:53:49.300 Okay.

01:53:49.960 But overwhelmingly rooted for Green Bay.

01:53:53.600 Not a joke, I'll tell you why.

01:53:55.160 Not a joke.

01:53:56.320 Every single Sunday.

01:53:58.240 Uh-huh.

01:53:58.980 Not only did they have great teams at the time.

01:54:01.260 Sure.

01:54:01.640 We still do.

01:54:02.380 But not only that.

01:54:03.680 Not only that.

01:54:06.120 My –

01:54:06.360 Is –

01:54:07.080 Theology professor at the Catholic school I went to.

01:54:10.160 Yeah.

01:54:10.520 Was a guy named Riley, last name.

01:54:13.480 And he had been drafted by the Green Bay Packers.

01:54:17.040 Okay.

01:54:17.580 There, okay.

01:54:18.180 All right.

01:54:18.620 And he decided to become a priest.

01:54:20.180 Yeah.

01:54:20.580 Before that.

01:54:21.260 So he didn't go.

01:54:22.100 So he didn't like the Packers very much, apparently.

01:54:24.200 Every single solitary Monday.

01:54:26.860 Every Monday.

01:54:27.340 The Green Bay one.

01:54:28.340 Mm-hmm.

01:54:29.040 We got the last period of the day off.

01:54:32.760 He got to it.

01:54:33.760 He got there.

01:54:34.240 It took a while.

01:54:34.960 We Catholics call that.

01:54:36.680 Long way to the well.

01:54:38.580 But it worked.

01:54:39.840 Okay.

01:54:40.140 The only unfortunate part of that is that it's not true.

01:54:46.020 Oh, it's not?

01:54:46.580 No.

01:54:46.840 The priest did not get drafted by the Green Bay Packers.

01:54:50.300 So this is a lie again.

01:54:51.160 So it's another lie.

01:54:52.840 Another made-up story.

01:54:55.220 Another one that was fact-checked and turned out to be false.

01:54:59.820 By the way, not just fact-checked by us or, you know, the Daily Wire, but fact-checked by

01:55:06.020 mainstream media.

01:55:07.480 Yes.

01:55:08.540 Right.

01:55:09.060 Over and over again.

01:55:09.800 By the Washington Post, Politico, all of these liberal organizations that fact-check him

01:55:14.600 and say, he needs to stop saying this.

01:55:16.460 He never does.

01:55:17.200 Never does.

01:55:17.940 You know what else he needs to stop saying is, don't jump.

01:55:22.560 But he can't.

01:55:24.500 This is an incredible observation by you.

01:55:27.300 And you're the only person I've ever heard make it.

01:55:29.240 I love this.

01:55:30.240 It's cut 13.

01:55:31.540 Here he is at the end.

01:55:34.000 Watch this.

01:55:36.020 Don't jump.

01:55:38.960 Why?

01:55:39.560 Why?

01:55:40.300 Why?

01:55:41.440 No, nobody's even paying attention to him.

01:55:43.980 He still has to say, don't jump.

01:55:46.680 Wait, go back to the beginning of this, because I don't know that people understand this observation.

01:55:49.980 What you are alleging, with incredible amounts of evidence, is that every time Joe Biden is

01:55:55.700 at a speech and he sees someone in an elevated position-

01:55:58.780 Yes.

01:55:59.300 On a balcony-

01:56:00.480 It could be one stair.

01:56:00.720 It could be one stair.

01:56:01.940 As long as they're above his position-

01:56:04.420 He says to them, don't jump.

01:56:06.920 Watch.

01:56:10.540 Trying to find somebody above him.

01:56:12.780 Don't jump!

01:56:14.360 What the hell?

01:56:16.480 And this is-

01:56:17.580 You might say, okay, well, he said it one time.

01:56:20.000 That's not a big deal.

01:56:20.960 It's at least 30.

01:56:22.420 It's at least 30 times.

01:56:23.700 I've heard you play the clips of this.

01:56:25.700 This is real.

01:56:26.400 I don't know how many of you have any of them handy.

01:56:27.880 Probably not.

01:56:28.520 Over.

01:56:29.040 It was-

01:56:30.720 It's so strange.

01:56:32.560 I've never noticed it before.

01:56:34.500 Uh-huh.

01:56:35.180 But he does it over and over.

01:56:37.000 And honestly, sometimes even when they're not elevated, he says it.

01:56:41.140 Yes.

01:56:41.960 He loves it that much that he's-

01:56:44.200 Don't jump!

01:56:45.800 Don't jump!

01:56:46.780 Jump!

01:56:47.640 Don't jump!

01:56:48.140 Just a few instances.

01:56:49.720 Don't jump!

01:56:50.940 And don't jump!

01:56:56.260 Hey, man!

01:56:58.260 Don't jump!

01:56:59.020 You look crazy enough to jump!

01:57:00.420 Don't jump!

01:57:01.380 I mean-

01:57:01.840 What?

01:57:02.440 What is the deal?

01:57:03.580 What is happening?

01:57:03.940 Is that weird?

01:57:04.640 Do you think suicide is funny?

01:57:06.720 Are you-

01:57:07.240 I mean, yeah, he obviously does, which-

01:57:09.180 I guess!

01:57:10.460 I guess you can make jokes out of it.

01:57:12.980 And like, it's just so consistent.

01:57:15.040 He thinks this is like-

01:57:16.900 It's, you know, it's like Jim Gaffigan's Hot Pockets bit.

01:57:21.060 He thinks this is his, like, home run-

01:57:23.860 Right!

01:57:24.440 He does!

01:57:24.460 Like, bring it home-

01:57:25.960 He does!

01:57:26.500 Like, this is the one-

01:57:27.240 This is the big finale.

01:57:28.360 This shows how charming and funny I am.

01:57:30.300 And he has-

01:57:31.140 You know?

01:57:31.160 You've shown me a clip where a person is just standing in front of-

01:57:35.400 There's no one elevated, and he says, don't jump.

01:57:37.540 Don't jump.

01:57:38.040 Because I don't think he even understands what's happening anymore.

01:57:41.120 And you know what's-

01:57:41.940 It's fascinating about him.

01:57:44.040 Is-

01:57:45.300 Certain presidents have really elicited anger from me, like, when they do these things.

01:57:50.140 And he does that.

01:57:51.000 When you have a student loan thing, I just get pissed off about.

01:57:53.380 Yeah.

01:57:53.560 But like, the overwhelming feeling I feel when I see Joe Biden speak is embarrassment.

01:57:57.560 Yeah, it is embarrassing.

01:57:58.220 Embarrassment for the country, embarrassment for him, embarrassment for all of us.

01:58:01.620 I will say this, though.

01:58:02.760 This don't jump thing, it does piss me off.

01:58:05.100 It is.

01:58:05.340 It enrages me.

01:58:06.700 More.

01:58:06.980 Come on up in a minute.

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01:59:31.720 Pat and Stu for Glenn, who will be back on Monday.

01:59:34.300 I was talking to my wife yesterday.

01:59:35.940 She went to Home Depot, and a guy walks up to her.

01:59:39.540 It's like, hey, what's that shirt?

01:59:43.640 And he looks closely at it and goes, oh my gosh, I thought that was a pro-Biden shirt.

01:59:48.600 And it is not.

01:59:50.960 It is very much not.

01:59:51.700 It's the shirt that's available at stuedoesmerch.com.

01:59:53.880 It has a picture of Joe Biden on it.

01:59:55.980 It says Joe Biden.

01:59:56.740 It kind of looks like a campaign shirt.

01:59:58.280 But then it has the famous phrase from the report on Joe Biden that says,

02:00:02.240 Joe Biden, elderly man with a poor memory.

02:00:05.200 And if you look closely at the picture, he doesn't look very good in the picture.

02:00:09.300 What?

02:00:09.800 Is that possible for Joe Biden?

02:00:11.500 It seems like he might be melting in front of your eyes.

02:00:14.420 So you could get that shirt.

02:00:15.720 Is his mouth open?

02:00:16.860 That's what I hope.

02:00:17.560 A little bit.

02:00:17.920 And then he's about to yell, don't jump.

02:00:21.440 So stuedoesmerch.com, the code is stuedoesmerch.com.

02:00:25.020 Why?

02:00:26.720 Why does he yell, don't jump?

02:00:28.880 I don't know.

02:00:30.040 The time.

02:00:30.600 I just don't know.

02:00:31.820 Weirdest.

02:00:32.420 Peter Doocy, you must ask this question of him.

02:00:37.360 Why do you continually tell people, don't jump?

02:00:41.660 Please, Peter, by all that is holy, ask.

02:00:43.980 I want a full Pat Gray documentary on this joke.

02:00:47.460 It's coming.

02:00:48.460 I love it.

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