On this episode of The Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck sits at the Standing Rock Ranch and talks about Black Lives Matter and the recent death of a young black man named George "T. J." Till. Glenn also talks about the lack of justice for the young man who was killed by a white police officer.
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00:13:30.200He went in on a press conference and said this.
00:13:33.160There's a video going around of a police officer in the middle of a situation that admittedly looked chaotic, but where protesters were in front of that police officer, that police officer drew his gun at some point yesterday.
00:13:47.780We have to always know it is not the place of an officer to pull a gun in the middle of a crowd, knowing that there are peaceful protesters in that crowd.
00:15:06.700Then the the crowd starts to rush because they see an officer down.
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00:17:11.540Something that I don't know why the media is not reporting on, but that's the same media that didn't show the videotape that I just showed you and just played for you of the 71-year-old retired chief of police in St. Louis being gunned down in the streets.
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00:24:17.280I want to start with a clip from Stephen Crowder from the Blaze TV.
00:24:22.700Stephen went down and took his microphone down to the streets of Dallas during the daytime and was talking to somebody who was a graffiti artist about what was happening.
00:24:57.980Everything, all of it is a part of the message, whether it's looting, whether it's painting on buildings, whether it's drawing on t-shirts, whether it's wearing certain shoes.
00:25:05.680All of it is the message, and it all needs to get out.
00:28:43.440So, let me just first of all say that, you know, obviously being on radio, I couldn't see the image that you were portraying.
00:28:52.000But I was picturing it the way you were describing it, and it was a very beautiful imagery.
00:28:58.100And what happened there, the officers kneeling, it occurred to me that that is a form of de-escalation.
00:29:07.980And that's what we're talking about, trying to keep a situation from getting worse to aggression and to violence, and then ultimately sometimes people getting killed.
00:29:18.740So, you know, Samuel Du Bois, you might remember, this was about four or five years ago now, he was a black man that was fatally shot by a white University of Cincinnati police officer.
00:29:34.960And, you know, like the University of Cincinnati, you know, all officers are armed and have full police authority.
00:29:43.640The reaction, of course, was scathing in terms of what happened.
00:29:48.560And even though, you know, our officers have a very good relationship with the community, all it takes is just one incident to just break all that down.
00:30:00.480And it was devastating to the University of Cincinnati, and we don't want something like that happening here.
00:30:07.860So this National De-Escalation Training Center is an attempt to start off with our own police department, and we've already had a couple of training sessions.
00:30:23.240It's state-of-the-art de-escalation training, augmented with simulation training, and then use a hub and spoke model and have regional centers throughout the country.
00:30:37.860And we've begun that in Texas and in North Carolina, and there will be others coming along.
00:30:45.740It's a nonprofit that is incorporated in the state of Michigan, or at least we've started that process so that there's not a proper motive here at all.
00:30:59.100It's really trying to get a public service to get out there and get de-escalation training, certainly among university police forces, but outside of that into other law enforcement, too.
00:31:14.780So I have to tell you, Dr. Wilson, I am glad to hear that this is going on because we don't know how to talk to each other, and I've seen a few examples of the police here recently that have done some amazing things and just totally took the situation from very tense to, you know, almost a joyous situation.
00:31:41.960But what is the goal, and what are the things that you are teaching?
00:31:49.000Well, it's based on personality profiling, being able to identify certain personalities quickly, and based on the identification of personalities, being able to respond based on that particular personality.
00:32:09.500The actual instrument is something that's been used for a while.
00:32:14.540It's called DISC, D-I-S-C, which represents certain personality types, but the – I don't want to get too technical here, but there's been a modification of that to be even more precise.
00:32:32.880So there's four personality types in DISC, and now with this modification, there's 26 subtypes that can be used to identify particular personality types.
00:32:48.040And then based on that, the law enforcement officers are trained to approach and modify their behavior based on the personalities of the subjects that they're apprehending.
00:33:03.500So my question is, how do we get past – because we're arguing two things.
00:33:12.200We're arguing about the protests and the riots, and I have no problem with peaceful protests at all.
00:33:18.480You can protest for anything, and I'm fine, and I'll, you know, stand by you and take the billy club to the head to stand up for your right to protest.
00:33:31.340But then we have that mixed with the riots, which no American is for, and also mixed with this violence on George Floyd, which also – I think it's unanimous.
00:34:52.000I mean, you have to separate the looting and the violence with the peaceful protests.
00:34:59.340And unfortunately, I do think that the actual message is getting a little bit drowned out by some of the negativity.
00:35:13.960I think the riots are the worst thing for I mean, we could have been united on this easily, because honestly, I don't know a single person that said, ah, well, it's no big deal.
00:35:27.100I don't know a single person that said, you know, now they found that fentanyl was in his in his bloodstream and he had a record, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:34.300I still don't know anybody who said this was right.
00:35:36.720I mean, I don't care what your record was, if if you are laying down on the ground and and you have a police officer sitting on your on your neck, I don't care if you're Charles Manson, that this is you are abusing human rights and you don't have a right as a cop to kill that guy.
00:35:57.700Sloppy is is not even begin to describe that.
00:37:10.020But on the same at the same token, you know, I do worry about my 28 year old son.
00:37:14.700And, you know, he reminds me a little bit too much of me when I was younger.
00:37:18.480I feel like, OK, well, you know, I made it.
00:37:21.680But, you know, something else, something's got to be done in order to make sure that the statistic that I told you,
00:37:30.520you know, one in 1,000, a black boy today will can be expect one in 1,000 chance of dying at the hands of law enforcement unless something changes.
00:37:43.340So hopefully the de-escalation training will be helpful.
00:37:48.360I think, you know, we think it's certainly a key.
00:37:51.340And the idea, as I mentioned, is to have the headquarters here at Wayne State, but to have hubs at, excuse me,
00:38:01.200have regional centers, you know, throughout the country.
00:38:07.480And, you know, we just don't want another situation that's occurred at the University of Cincinnati to happen.
00:48:16.780And the more he said it, Glenn, the more I realized there's never been any sort of examination about what it is that causes people like Alan West and Candace Owens and Larry Elder and Herman Cain and Bob Woodson and some other people to be called all these vile names.
00:48:33.520When all we're suggesting is, A, your fate is in your hands, B, America in the year 2020 is not America in the year 1820, and C, not everything that's bothering you can be traced to Jim Crow and slavery.
00:48:46.420And for that reason, we're called all sorts of names.
00:48:49.140Wouldn't it be good news, Glenn, if we were right?
00:48:51.740I mean, I'm looking at all this stuff going on in our streets.
00:48:55.500And I tell people that, if anything, the cops are more hesitant, more reluctant to pull the trigger on a black suspect than on a white suspect.
00:49:02.540There have been several studies that suggest that, including one by a black economist at Harvard named Rolling Fryer.
00:49:08.100He said it was the most shocking result of his career.
00:49:10.540He assumed his study was going to confirm the narrative that the police are out mowing down black people using disproportionate force against them.
00:49:17.800And he found not only was it not true that cops were more hesitant, more reluctant to use deadly force against black people.
00:49:23.640Now, when I say this, inevitably, Glenn, as you know, on radio, somebody will call up, and they'll be hostile, and I'll be called Uncle Tom and all this.
00:49:30.220And I always say to them, why don't you pull for me?
00:50:48.980I defy your audience to name an unarmed white, because MSNBC, CNN, Van Jones, Don LeMond, they don't give a damn about an unarmed white guy, but an unarmed black guy, let's call out the guard.
00:51:17.420We're not talking about that, because we're talking about the rare occasion, unfortunate, obviously, where somebody, a police officer, has done something to a black guy.
00:51:26.180An officer did, not the police department.
00:51:30.160Let's deal with the individual officer or officers involved in the case.
00:51:34.860You know, the officer in this particular case, Larry, what are your thoughts on him?
00:51:41.840Well, I think that the officer who did this certainly should be charged.
00:51:46.760Whether he gets convicted of first-degree murder is a whole different ballgame, and that's what bothers me.
00:51:51.960He's been charged with third-degree murder, which seems reasonable to me.
00:51:55.020I doubt that he was intentionally trying to kill this guy in front of all these people, in front of the police officer.
00:52:00.700But certainly, he acted negligently in a criminal way.
00:52:05.160Whether the other officers are equally culpable is another question that's open.
00:52:09.140My concern, though, Glenn, is this autopsy that was done by Michael Bodden and the lawyer, and they both said this suggests a first-degree homicide count should be filed.
00:52:23.100Are you telling me that this guy got up in the morning and said, I'm going to find a black guy, I'm going to kneel on his neck and kill him in front of a bunch of people telling me not to do it, and in front of three other police officers?
00:53:21.780It would be one thing if the Fraternal Order of Police put out a statement and said, well, this is standard tactics.
00:53:25.880How dare you accuse this officer of homicide?
00:53:28.060In fact, the Fraternal Order of Police put out a statement to announce what these officers did.
00:53:32.420I don't know a single cop, publicly or privately, who's ever said this is okay.
00:53:36.480You've got a very liberal mayor who's sympathetic.
00:53:38.960You've got the vice president of city council who happens to be black.
00:53:42.780The state attorney general in Minnesota is black.
00:53:45.400What gives you the impression that when all these officers were fired summarily and the lead cop arrested and charged, what makes you think it will not be thoroughly investigated such that you've got to go out in the streets and tear up the place for six or eight days now in a row?
00:54:03.880What's happening is you've got a bunch of people who've been taught that if there's any kind of thing that goes wrong, you should assume that it's a reflection of institutional racism.
00:54:13.700It's a microcosm of institutional racism.
00:54:15.860The point is we've gotten to the point in America, in my opinion, Glenn, where race is so insignificant.
00:54:21.600The media and the so-called leaders have to invent stuff in order to keep blacks angry, so they pull that lever, 95 cents for the Democratic Party.
00:54:55.980It gives you permission to think for yourself.
00:54:58.420Which party is the best party that will give your kid the best education, the party that says you're going to go to a government school, whether you want to or not, or the party that wants to give you a choice?
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00:57:39.300Uh, Uncle Tom, this is something, Larry, that I want to talk to you about specifically about what Joe Biden said last week.
00:57:47.760But let's start with the answer to the question that I just posed to you about how do we how do what is there anything that can break this stalemate of talking over each other?
00:58:58.920If you're talking Antifa, that's a group of white people who I think are spreading a very, very racist message here of we're going to be the ones that that turn things around for the blacks.
00:59:11.260But when most people talk about white nationalists and not talking about Antifa, they're talking about the Aryan brothers, the KKK and so forth.
00:59:18.960But let me just finish this real quickly.
00:59:20.520So I wrote this book and a friend of mine works for a large insurance company and her boss told me that his son, who is white, had broken his arm and therefore had taken a day off of gym and was sitting in the gym on the floor reading my book.
00:59:34.120And the book jacket was still on, a big picture of Elder on the book jacket.
00:59:38.100And another kid, middle school now, who's black, saw him sitting on the floor reading this book about Larry Elder.
00:59:44.540And he said, is that book about Larry Elder?
00:59:47.540And the white kid looks up and says, yes.
00:59:49.800And the black kid says, do you like him?
00:59:52.200And because of the way he said it, Glenn, the white kid thought that this black kid hated my guts.
00:59:56.960And therefore, the white kid might be in trouble if he said he liked me.
01:00:00.240And he started to say, no, not really.
01:00:01.920I'm just reading it for an assignment.
01:00:03.040But then he said, I remember the second chapter, why condescension is as bad as black racism.
01:00:07.720And he said, and my son got courage and said, yeah, I do like him.
01:00:11.400And the black kid looked to the left and looked to the right and said, me too.
01:09:19.460Now, let me give you something that the beginnings of what Laura Logan and I are going to be talking about.
01:09:25.900There is evidence now that is emerging that this was all coordinated.
01:09:34.360The planning for this happened even before George Floyd was killed.
01:09:41.360The top terrorism cop, the deputy commissioner for intelligence and counterterrorism, his name is John Miller.
01:09:49.480He detailed his office's analysis and investigation into why New York City protests had become so violent and damaging.
01:09:57.620He said, number one, before the protests began, organizers of certain anarchist groups set out to raise bail money and people who would be responsible for raising bail money.
01:10:11.420They set out to recruit medics and medical teams with gear to deploy in anticipation of violent interactions with police.
01:10:21.160And once the protests started, he continued, the groups used a complex network of bicycle scouts to direct rioters to locations where police officers were not present.
01:10:34.120And they developed a complex network of bicycle scouts to move ahead of demonstrators in different directions of where the police were and where the police were not for purposes of being able to direct groups from a larger group to places where they could commit acts of vandalism, including the torching of cars, police cars, Molotov cocktails, where the officers would not be.
01:11:00.240We have much more on that with Laura Logan, but I'm telling you right now, this is end game.
01:11:45.540Now, their idea was if we could just blame everything on Donald Trump and say that he's a Russian spy and blame him for doing everything that we were doing.
01:11:58.880We can create enough chaos to shape the world closer to our heart's desire.
01:12:04.660Well, unfortunately, when you try to kill Caesar, you better kill him, because if he survives, he's coming for you.
01:12:13.800Well, he's coming for the deep state and they know it.
01:13:18.460They've got to make sure that anything that is coming out of congressional investigation is so small compared to what everybody is talking about.
01:13:28.440You notice nobody's talking about coronavirus anymore.
01:13:32.080You know, I got to tell you something.
01:13:35.360Either there's going to be a lot of dead Antifa members, protesters, looters.
01:13:46.400Or we were lied to about how bad the coronavirus is.
01:13:51.360Have you noticed that the states that were saying you couldn't go to church, you couldn't even go and visit your family, they don't seem to have a problem with the rioters.
01:14:02.340Andrew Cuomo said yesterday that that what was happening in New York was out of control and maybe he would just have to send Bill de Blasio packing.
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