The Glenn Beck Program - 'Thought is Frightening'

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00:00:10.380 Love. Courage. Truth. Glenn Beck.

00:00:17.760 So why does David Brock and Media Matters still have any kind of sway in the media?

00:00:24.560 Why? If you don't know, Media Matters is a liberal hit squad that scours the internet

00:00:29.900 TV, newspapers, public speeches, to find anything they can from conservative voices

00:00:35.740 with the specific intent of taking them out of context.

00:00:41.060 Their entire goal is to silence dissenting voices and opinion.

00:00:45.940 But I am finding it hard in today's day and age to understand their relevance.

00:00:51.340 First of all, their leader, David Brock, only started his crusade to defend Hillary Clinton.

00:00:57.100 He was a shill for Hillary Clinton.

00:00:58.600 She's not relevant anymore.

00:01:01.220 Politically, she doesn't even exist.

00:01:03.960 So why is Media Matters still around?

00:01:06.360 Ah, because they have power.

00:01:11.820 This isn't 10 years ago, however.

00:01:14.620 People have the ability to do their own fact-checking.

00:01:17.500 There's more variety on the internet for news and information than ever before.

00:01:21.600 So why is the media so afraid of Media Matters?

00:01:26.960 The Atlantic was the latest to give in to Media Matters pressure with the firing of Kevin

00:01:31.160 Williamson.

00:01:32.660 Sure, The Atlantic is a liberal publication.

00:01:35.860 But at least they were sometimes intellectually honest.

00:01:40.320 For years, the Atlantic had been less mudslinging and more intellectual conversation, you know,

00:01:47.240 even though it would be conversation that you would disagree with.

00:01:49.960 But at least you could consider it.

00:01:52.180 After Trump became president, that all stopped.

00:01:57.080 Insanity has set in.

00:01:59.680 When The Atlantic hired conservative columnist Kevin Williamson a few weeks ago,

00:02:03.440 this apparently was way too much for David Brock and his brown shirts or black shirts Media Matters to bear.

00:02:10.840 They just couldn't stand it.

00:02:12.580 They couldn't stand aside and allow a popular conservative voice to be in an established liberal media publication.

00:02:18.480 That would be a disaster.

00:02:21.160 So the kings of thought crime went to work.

00:02:25.440 Three days ago, Media Matters began releasing hit pieces to damage Williamson's image.

00:02:32.340 They dug, they dug, and they dug, and they dug, and they searched, and they found a comment from a podcast

00:02:39.180 and a corresponding tweet that he made four years ago.

00:02:43.820 Williamson suggested that women who commit abortions should be subject to capital punishment.

00:02:51.560 Now, on the surface, that definitely sounds like a shock comment.

00:02:57.000 But later in the podcast, he makes it very clear that he doesn't like capital punishment.

00:03:03.280 His intention was pretty obvious.

00:03:06.240 Williamson was trying to make a point showing the moral similarity between abortion and murder.

00:03:11.920 That's it.

00:03:15.860 That right there is exactly the kind of deep, critical thinking that you'd expect to find at the Atlantic.

00:03:23.360 And actually, they must have agreed because they hired Williamson away from the National Review,

00:03:28.240 knowing full well that he made these comments back in 2014.

00:03:33.040 If they didn't, then it shouldn't have been relevant.

00:03:37.240 It wasn't a secret.

00:03:38.680 Ninety-nine percent of the staff at the Atlantic probably disagree with Williamson in general.

00:03:44.540 But that would have made for some good, solid, point, counterpoint.

00:03:49.100 It would open people's minds.

00:03:52.180 But Media Matters couldn't take it.

00:03:54.960 Why the Atlantic is so concerned with what some outdated and washed-up liberal hit squad cares about is beyond me.

00:04:01.960 I remember when I was at CNN and nobody really understood what Media Matters was.

00:04:08.500 There's no excuse for this now.

00:04:11.240 You all know what Media Matters is.

00:04:14.820 So my question is, when is this going to stop?

00:04:18.820 Will this stop when there's only one point of view and no debate on anything?

00:04:23.460 Is that what the right wants?

00:04:26.260 Is that what the left wants?

00:04:28.980 Because let's play this out.

00:04:32.740 If you start to adopt a philosophy that says, you know what?

00:04:40.320 It's only my point of view.

00:04:42.780 After you get rid of all the people who are the loudest against you, well, then you're going to have to start in on your friends.

00:04:49.980 See, this is what happened in France with the guillotines.

00:04:55.100 If you believe someone is wrong, have a conversation with them.

00:04:59.560 But we don't do that anymore.

00:05:01.000 We're not allowed to talk to each other anymore.

00:05:03.820 Opposing views are silenced.

00:05:06.240 Those that voice them are pulverized and destroyed.

00:05:10.100 I think I've read a book about this.

00:05:14.760 It was called 1984.

00:05:18.500 Welcome to the state of the mainstream media today.

00:05:27.820 It's Friday, April 6th.

00:05:30.100 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:05:33.200 I want to start here.

00:05:34.340 Congratulations to Roseanne Barr, who has gone on ABC and she has found a way to make herself relevant.

00:05:48.560 And she's brought back her show.

00:05:50.720 And her second week, the ratings were not quite as high, but they were still quite high.

00:05:55.780 Proving that she is.

00:05:58.660 She wasn't a flash in the pan, at least the first week.

00:06:01.680 Now, I want to start with Roseanne Barr, because I think it's very brave of ABC to put Roseanne Barr on television.

00:06:11.980 Because, remember, Kevin Williamson, he was making a point that required actual thinking and context.

00:06:26.600 Media matters?

00:06:28.460 No.

00:06:29.300 Context matters.

00:06:30.700 So, his point was, there's a lot of people that believe abortion is murder.

00:06:36.480 I'm one of them.

00:06:38.380 So, if abortion is murder, then how come we don't punish the people who did the murdering?

00:06:46.000 And that would include the doctors and the mothers.

00:06:50.820 How come we don't do that?

00:06:52.300 And he was trying to make the point that if it's murder, we're asking for the death penalty on murder, on horrendous crimes, on a serial murderer?

00:07:04.740 Of course we would ask for the death penalty.

00:07:08.640 So, why aren't we doing it there?

00:07:10.080 Then he goes on to say, now, I'm not for it.

00:07:13.740 However, it's what you have to see.

00:07:17.500 It's murder.

00:07:18.580 Okay.

00:07:19.180 So, he made an intellectual point, and he gets fired from the Atlantic.

00:07:25.080 I'm going to play a clip that I think most people have forgotten from 2008.

00:07:33.000 It wasn't on a podcast.

00:07:34.880 It was on Russia Today.

00:07:36.520 And it's Roseanne Barr, right after the big bank bailouts.

00:07:43.500 And she was serious.

00:07:45.520 There was no, oh, and I'm just making a point here.

00:07:49.380 She was serious.

00:07:51.800 I want you to hear it.

00:07:53.040 Of course, the guilty must be punished, and that we can no longer, you know, let our children see their guilty leaders getting away with murder.

00:08:00.460 Because it teaches children that, you know, they don't have to have any morals, and as long as they have guns and are bullies, that they'll win.

00:08:07.860 And I don't think that's a good message.

00:08:09.820 I do say that I am for the return of the guillotine, and that is for the worst of the worst of the guilty.

00:08:16.640 I first would allow the guilty bankers to pay, you know, the ability to pay back anything over $100 million personal wealth.

00:08:24.940 Because I believe in a maximum wage of $100 million.

00:08:30.460 And they should, you know, go to the re-education camps, and if that doesn't help, then be beheaded.

00:08:36.560 Okay.

00:08:40.260 So because they were involved in a crime, and they were stealing money from the people, in her words,

00:08:49.140 they should go to a re-education camp, they should have their money taken from them, and some of them should be beheaded.

00:09:00.460 Hmm. Now, wait a minute.

00:09:03.760 If you commit murder, and you have actual blood on your hands,

00:09:09.960 in an exercise of critical thinking,

00:09:16.620 Kevin Williamson asks,

00:09:21.480 why wouldn't we then apply the death penalty to those who perform and have abortions?

00:09:29.360 In an exercise of critical thinking.

00:09:34.000 And he gets fired from the Atlantic, but Roseanne gets a job at ABC.

00:09:41.220 She's allowed to go on.

00:09:42.700 There's no outrage there.

00:09:44.080 She's allowed to go on.

00:09:46.160 She's totally fine.

00:09:47.980 She's calling for the guillotine for bankers,

00:09:51.960 which would be an entirely new law.

00:09:57.580 And she gets, she goes to ABC,

00:10:01.280 and I have to tell you,

00:10:03.460 that's quite an accomplishment.

00:10:05.580 To go to the American Broadcasting Company,

00:10:08.420 that's quite, and get a primetime show,

00:10:10.680 that's amazing.

00:10:11.500 Just so you know,

00:10:13.840 Kevin Williamson, in comparison,

00:10:16.680 he's kicked out of the Atlantic.

00:10:19.180 That's like being told,

00:10:20.780 you're not dressed well enough for a restaurant called Eat.

00:10:25.140 Hello, Stu.

00:10:39.940 How are you?

00:10:40.820 Good.

00:10:41.280 I'm glad you covered this first,

00:10:42.740 because it's so disappointing.

00:10:46.320 I mean,

00:10:46.860 it's not a surprise to me at all,

00:10:48.780 but the idea that Kevin Williamson,

00:10:50.980 you know,

00:10:51.320 look,

00:10:51.520 he's a great writer.

00:10:53.700 I mean,

00:10:53.920 he is a great writer.

00:10:55.080 Great writer.

00:10:55.560 And I don't agree with everything he says.

00:10:57.760 No,

00:10:58.020 but he does it in a way to make you think.

00:11:00.640 That is what all of his pieces do.

00:11:02.160 He says things in the harshest way

00:11:04.500 to make you think about them at times.

00:11:07.080 And he's,

00:11:08.220 that is his,

00:11:09.300 that's the way he writes all the time.

00:11:11.700 To hire a guy like that,

00:11:13.140 and then fire him for that reason is,

00:11:15.320 is insane.

00:11:16.280 That's like ABC hiring,

00:11:18.260 hiring Bill Maher,

00:11:20.920 and then firing him on a show called Politically Incorrect,

00:11:24.400 when he's politically incorrect.

00:11:26.320 Right.

00:11:26.540 So it shows that we back this point on both sides.

00:11:29.660 Yes.

00:11:29.820 We've backed a million leftists who have said crazy things that they should keep their jobs.

00:11:34.580 You know,

00:11:34.920 look,

00:11:35.640 that is part of how you come to a conclusion in an argument.

00:11:39.360 When you bring up the wild side,

00:11:43.760 the wild argument on one side,

00:11:45.080 and the wild argument on the other,

00:11:46.520 you set boundaries,

00:11:47.580 right?

00:11:47.940 And you start narrowing that until you can find something that actually makes sense.

00:11:51.800 And you're never going to agree.

00:11:53.260 We're not going to agree with the left on these,

00:11:54.960 on these points,

00:11:55.720 nor should we.

00:11:56.940 So,

00:11:57.260 but I mean,

00:11:57.820 to not be able to say,

00:11:59.960 to take some sort of license rhetorically,

00:12:02.380 and make a point like that.

00:12:04.460 And he does this all the time.

00:12:06.380 It's not like he's like,

00:12:07.200 you know,

00:12:07.700 he's been a writer who's known for his flowery,

00:12:12.160 you know,

00:12:14.100 you know,

00:12:15.620 basic vanilla commentary.

00:12:18.480 That's not why he was hired.

00:12:19.980 He's hired because he says things that make you think.

00:12:23.660 So here's the thing.

00:12:25.100 Right now,

00:12:25.900 people who are defending the Atlantic are,

00:12:29.540 are,

00:12:30.340 are saying things like,

00:12:31.400 look,

00:12:31.720 a freedom of speech.

00:12:33.000 That's so you don't have to go to jail.

00:12:35.460 And that's what we're against.

00:12:37.840 We're against fascists like,

00:12:39.460 like Donald Trump,

00:12:40.920 who want to put you in jail.

00:12:42.860 No,

00:12:43.180 actually that was Woodrow Wilson,

00:12:46.740 FDR.

00:12:47.800 And then the last guy that do it was Obama.

00:12:52.420 So did you have a problem with those three?

00:12:54.840 Because they put journalists in jail.

00:12:58.260 Oh no.

00:13:01.260 So you're right.

00:13:02.720 That does.

00:13:04.200 Freedom of speech means that the government can't put you in jail for what you say and what you do.

00:13:13.500 You can,

00:13:14.820 you have a right to free press to say it.

00:13:17.340 However,

00:13:17.860 it must be true.

00:13:20.860 The first trial of,

00:13:22.740 of freedom of speech happened in America before we were America.

00:13:26.260 And the guy was on trial,

00:13:27.980 uh,

00:13:29.000 because he had said things about King George.

00:13:32.460 And so he goes to an American court.

00:13:34.860 It's like the zinger trial or something.

00:13:37.980 He goes to court.

00:13:39.300 He is standing there in front of the judge.

00:13:41.540 Judge says,

00:13:42.320 present the evidence.

00:13:43.500 Now in England,

00:13:44.840 you couldn't say anything about the,

00:13:47.460 the King.

00:13:48.240 You can't say it no matter,

00:13:50.160 no matter what you cannot say it.

00:13:53.300 This was the first case on,

00:13:55.520 uh,

00:13:56.180 on freedom of speech before we were a country.

00:13:59.800 It's what gave that first amendment.

00:14:02.760 It,

00:14:03.180 it,

00:14:03.380 it lit the fire in the minds of the founders.

00:14:07.260 This is what we have to write down on paper.

00:14:10.760 And here's what happened.

00:14:11.900 He made his case and he said,

00:14:14.360 your honor,

00:14:14.920 everything I said about the King is true.

00:14:18.980 So the judge ruled not guilty.

00:14:25.940 If you're making things up about somebody,

00:14:28.780 then there's a punishment.

00:14:30.640 But if it's true,

00:14:32.420 there is no punishment for the truth.

00:14:35.720 Man must be free to tell the truth.

00:14:38.100 Now,

00:14:38.780 is that what media matters does?

00:14:41.320 No,

00:14:41.820 I can tell you right now.

00:14:43.260 Absolutely not.

00:14:45.060 They twist it.

00:14:46.480 They turn it.

00:14:47.640 They turn it into something that they turned Kevin Williams into a guy who's saying,

00:14:52.240 I want all mothers to go to,

00:14:53.940 go to the gallows.

00:14:55.260 That's not what he said.

00:14:56.960 That's not what he,

00:14:57.620 context matters.

00:14:59.780 The truth matters.

00:15:02.940 One other thing.

00:15:04.680 As people are defending the first amendment and they're saying,

00:15:07.300 well,

00:15:07.500 that's means that the government,

00:15:08.800 but,

00:15:09.140 but this is a private industry.

00:15:11.000 This is a private company.

00:15:12.360 They can do whatever they want.

00:15:14.080 Yes,

00:15:14.280 they can let you.

00:15:15.860 I thought you believed in the free market.

00:15:18.900 I do.

00:15:20.560 Media matters is not the free market.

00:15:23.100 Those are brown shirts or black shirts.

00:15:28.380 All fascism starts the same way with a mob in the street,

00:15:33.060 trying to tell everybody exactly what to do,

00:15:36.740 how to live,

00:15:37.840 how to salute,

00:15:39.120 how to speak.

00:15:40.200 And at first those mobs beat everybody into submission.

00:15:46.940 Then usually after that,

00:15:49.160 the leader of those mobs has the mobs executed.

00:15:53.100 As they just take power after they have beaten everyone into submission.

00:15:58.680 Congratulations.

00:16:00.380 Atlantic,

00:16:01.000 you think you're doing something because we're not going to be around fascists.

00:16:05.600 You are empowering the brown shirts.

00:16:08.820 Oh no,

00:16:14.080 is that,

00:16:14.960 oh no,

00:16:15.320 that was probably too tough for people to hear.

00:16:18.220 Oh no,

00:16:18.720 I,

00:16:18.920 I just got a call.

00:16:19.800 You got fired from the Atlantic.

00:16:21.020 I'm sorry,

00:16:21.580 Glenn.

00:16:21.880 Gosh,

00:16:22.340 you're out.

00:16:23.140 Sorry.

00:16:24.640 Maybe I should be beheaded.

00:16:27.780 Well,

00:16:28.180 I don't have time to ask Roseanne about that because she's busy working on her ABC television show.

00:16:34.740 Jeez.

00:16:35.140 All right.

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00:18:04.180 Glenn.

00:18:05.220 Back.

00:18:05.780 Mercury.

00:18:15.620 Glenn Beck.

00:18:17.100 When will the American media wake up?

00:18:20.920 Will they?

00:18:21.760 Is it too late?

00:18:23.400 When will they wake up?

00:18:25.900 And quite honestly,

00:18:27.180 we all need to wake up.

00:18:28.920 We're part of the media now.

00:18:30.400 Social media.

00:18:32.020 We're all doing it.

00:18:33.460 And look,

00:18:33.920 everybody is saying,

00:18:36.360 you know what's really unhealthy?

00:18:38.700 It's social media where,

00:18:39.980 you know,

00:18:40.280 you only get one side.

00:18:42.140 That's that damn Mark Zuckerberg

00:18:44.840 in his algorithm.

00:18:45.840 It's just giving us all just what we want to hear

00:18:50.680 and reinforcing our own opinions.

00:18:53.660 Oh.

00:18:54.940 So,

00:18:55.700 um,

00:18:56.440 let me just ask Jeffrey Goldberg.

00:18:58.760 Are you a Mark Zuckerberg algorithm?

00:19:02.900 Because that's what you are choosing to do with the Atlantic.

00:19:06.740 Oh,

00:19:08.300 they can't handle another opinion.

00:19:11.000 Nobody is allowed to think outside of this little box.

00:19:15.140 Well,

00:19:15.440 actually,

00:19:15.920 half the box.

00:19:18.020 Half the box can only listen to their half of the box.

00:19:20.560 And the other half of the box can only listen to their half of the box.

00:19:23.120 I'm not even in a box.

00:19:25.180 Get out of the box.

00:19:26.600 How do we possibly survive when the journalists,

00:19:33.620 when the people who claim to be the bastions of truth,

00:19:39.380 when they're cowards,

00:19:40.600 cowards?

00:19:43.420 This,

00:19:43.780 you know,

00:19:44.120 I don't,

00:19:44.500 I don't,

00:19:44.780 we don't teach this anymore,

00:19:45.960 but life takes courage.

00:19:48.140 No,

00:19:48.580 it doesn't.

00:19:48.920 I want a safe zone.

00:19:50.220 There is no place safe,

00:19:52.240 especially intellectually.

00:19:53.760 You should never be looking for a safe zone when it comes to intellectual thought.

00:19:59.620 Thought is good.

00:20:01.800 All big thought is really scary to people.

00:20:05.660 It always is.

00:20:07.440 The world is round.

00:20:09.740 Electricity.

00:20:10.600 We should cross the sea and see what's over on the other side.

00:20:15.180 It's always frightening when it comes to thought.

00:20:20.140 Stay out of any place that says this is a safe zone.

00:20:25.560 Glenn Beck.

00:20:27.160 Mercury.

00:20:35.040 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:37.000 There is a great movie that is opening up this weekend.

00:20:41.580 It's called Chappaquiddick.

00:20:43.300 And I want you to know going in,

00:20:45.140 if you're looking for,

00:20:46.620 you're looking for,

00:20:48.060 yeah,

00:20:48.660 get him.

00:20:49.640 You're not going to find it.

00:20:50.820 And I don't think you should,

00:20:52.760 but you're not going to find it.

00:20:54.720 You're going to find something that I think was balanced,

00:20:59.820 did not feel political,

00:21:01.740 didn't feel like it had an ax to grind,

00:21:04.040 felt historically accurate,

00:21:05.920 and was a really good movie.

00:21:08.480 And I watched it with my nieces and nephews and my daughter the other day,

00:21:12.200 and they had never heard of Chappaquiddick before.

00:21:15.920 And they kept looking over at me going,

00:21:17.620 is this real?

00:21:18.520 This is true.

00:21:19.580 Wait a minute.

00:21:20.020 This happened halfway through.

00:21:22.320 He didn't go on to be Senator.

00:21:25.120 Did he?

00:21:28.840 It's,

00:21:29.360 it's really,

00:21:30.300 really well done.

00:21:31.480 Great acting in it.

00:21:32.960 And one of the producers is with us.

00:21:35.900 It's Mark Chiardi,

00:21:37.400 who,

00:21:37.840 who has done some of my favorite movies,

00:21:39.680 the rookie miracle,

00:21:40.900 invincible,

00:21:41.900 the game plan.

00:21:42.780 I love secretariat and million dollar arm.

00:21:46.020 Welcome,

00:21:46.540 Mark.

00:21:47.040 How are you,

00:21:47.500 sir?

00:21:48.600 Oh,

00:21:48.800 thanks for having me,

00:21:49.580 Glenn.

00:21:50.140 I have to tell you,

00:21:51.420 thank you for making this movie.

00:21:55.600 It's amazing.

00:21:57.360 How many people don't even know what Chappaquiddick is or what happened.

00:22:01.800 Uh,

00:22:02.880 and it has truly been erased from history.

00:22:05.620 And I think it's important to do it,

00:22:07.620 but do it in the way you did,

00:22:08.980 uh,

00:22:10.140 that wasn't heavy handed or politically driven.

00:22:13.800 Yeah.

00:22:14.300 That's,

00:22:14.580 I mean,

00:22:14.720 what you said earlier is exactly what our intent was with,

00:22:17.680 with the movie.

00:22:18.260 And I appreciate it because,

00:22:19.700 you know,

00:22:20.400 like you could,

00:22:20.880 you can go out and really do,

00:22:22.320 uh,

00:22:22.880 you know,

00:22:23.360 a hit job on Ted Kennedy in this,

00:22:24.980 but we wanted something a lot more nuanced.

00:22:26.960 I mean,

00:22:27.220 listen,

00:22:27.960 the facts,

00:22:28.520 when you string them together are not flattering.

00:22:30.660 There's no way around it.

00:22:32.840 Right.

00:22:33.380 You know,

00:22:33.680 but,

00:22:33.880 but we do frame it in a way where,

00:22:35.400 you know,

00:22:35.500 he's lost three brothers.

00:22:36.740 You know,

00:22:36.880 he is now the,

00:22:37.820 the,

00:22:38.100 the last son,

00:22:39.280 you know,

00:22:39.560 you've got the moon landing having it happening at the same time.

00:22:42.260 And then you throw this into the mix and it's,

00:22:44.500 and it's incredible to watch.

00:22:45.740 Well,

00:22:46.000 obviously from the accident on his actions on,

00:22:49.760 um,

00:22:50.240 are enough of an indictment,

00:22:51.600 but,

00:22:52.000 uh,

00:22:52.140 it's a lot more nuanced than that.

00:22:53.580 Yeah.

00:22:53.800 I appreciate those comments.

00:22:54.900 I appreciated the fact that,

00:22:56.860 uh,

00:22:57.480 you didn't make Ted Kennedy into a caricature,

00:23:01.880 uh,

00:23:02.940 and you didn't make him into an evil guy.

00:23:04.820 Although in the end you walk out going,

00:23:07.040 what an evil dude,

00:23:07.980 uh,

00:23:08.860 you did show the battle that he had inside the weakness,

00:23:13.220 uh,

00:23:14.040 of him.

00:23:14.840 And Bruce Dern as,

00:23:17.140 uh,

00:23:17.600 as Joe P Kennedy,

00:23:19.700 Holy cow.

00:23:20.660 Was he good as that?

00:23:22.200 Yeah.

00:23:22.740 Yeah.

00:23:23.100 I mean,

00:23:23.320 he said five words and,

00:23:24.740 uh,

00:23:25.320 those scenes with,

00:23:26.360 with him and Ted,

00:23:27.280 I mean,

00:23:27.660 he doesn't have to say that you see everything in the eyes and,

00:23:30.240 you know,

00:23:30.420 Ted's reduced to kind of a child in this.

00:23:32.660 And,

00:23:33.080 uh,

00:23:33.340 you know,

00:23:33.580 when he has to go tell his dad,

00:23:34.680 it's almost like he threw a baseball through a window,

00:23:36.540 but,

00:23:37.040 uh,

00:23:37.640 you know,

00:23:37.860 once,

00:23:38.080 once that,

00:23:38.640 you know,

00:23:38.920 that machine gets to work,

00:23:40.360 it's a,

00:23:40.760 it's a,

00:23:41.020 it's a real peak inside power.

00:23:42.660 And,

00:23:43.360 you know,

00:23:43.500 that's what makes it,

00:23:44.480 you know,

00:23:44.840 in context with everything certainly going on in the last eight months,

00:23:48.260 uh,

00:23:50.660 we'll respond to it.

00:23:51.640 So with,

00:23:52.520 um,

00:23:52.760 if,

00:23:53.000 if you think,

00:23:53.740 uh,

00:23:54.160 back and,

00:23:55.100 you know,

00:23:55.260 project on history,

00:23:56.520 um,

00:23:57.640 Joe Kennedy died shortly after within a year of Chappaquiddick four months later,

00:24:03.320 four months later,

00:24:03.940 if he would have been dead,

00:24:05.700 do you think Ted Kennedy would have confessed in it and he would have owned up to it right

00:24:10.900 away?

00:24:11.920 Good,

00:24:12.500 good question.

00:24:13.580 Uh,

00:24:14.000 good,

00:24:14.240 really good question.

00:24:15.060 We don't know.

00:24:16.020 We know that the night of the accident,

00:24:17.900 he called Hyannis port many times.

00:24:20.660 So he was looking for,

00:24:22.280 you know,

00:24:22.720 advice for sure from,

00:24:24.160 from his father.

00:24:25.280 And,

00:24:25.760 um,

00:24:26.180 and,

00:24:26.500 and,

00:24:26.720 you know,

00:24:27.280 listen,

00:24:27.820 the best and brightest descended on Hyannis port,

00:24:29.880 you know,

00:24:30.020 most of,

00:24:30.560 you know,

00:24:31.160 JFK's cabinet came there,

00:24:32.520 including Sorenson,

00:24:33.880 McNamara,

00:24:34.360 all these great minds to figure out what to do with Ted.

00:24:36.400 First of all,

00:24:36.800 they got him off of any jail time.

00:24:38.480 They got a two month suspended sentence and they got that body off the island.

00:24:42.160 There was no autopsy done.

00:24:43.800 And,

00:24:43.860 uh,

00:24:44.640 and then,

00:24:45.040 you know,

00:24:45.280 things played out as they did.

00:24:46.620 And,

00:24:46.720 and,

00:24:46.980 you know,

00:24:47.040 we end on this,

00:24:47.900 this famous speech he did.

00:24:49.180 And,

00:24:49.540 uh,

00:24:49.920 he craft,

00:24:50.460 they crafted it as he became the victim,

00:24:52.080 you know,

00:24:52.680 asking if there was a Kennedy curse.

00:24:54.360 And I think people lose sight of the fact,

00:24:56.140 or certainly they did that,

00:24:57.300 that the young woman died and,

00:24:58.860 and,

00:24:59.200 uh,

00:24:59.340 he became the victim.

00:25:01.040 So Ed,

00:25:01.340 Ed Helms is good in this.

00:25:02.760 He plays,

00:25:03.340 um,

00:25:04.200 is he a cousin of the Kennedy's?

00:25:06.640 Yeah.

00:25:06.880 He's a cousin that almost kind of got adopted by the family.

00:25:11.100 So,

00:25:11.580 and,

00:25:11.960 uh,

00:25:12.140 yeah,

00:25:12.280 he's great.

00:25:12.900 He is really great.

00:25:13.880 And he's standing up the whole time saying,

00:25:15.960 you got,

00:25:16.480 you have to tell the truth is,

00:25:18.780 was,

00:25:19.260 was without giving anything away.

00:25:21.160 I mean,

00:25:21.720 you know,

00:25:22.180 we,

00:25:22.400 it's history,

00:25:23.200 so we kind of know how it ends,

00:25:24.360 but it's,

00:25:24.680 it's,

00:25:24.980 it's an interesting scene at the end.

00:25:26.840 Is that scene with,

00:25:28.780 uh,

00:25:29.680 did that happen at the end with,

00:25:31.880 with,

00:25:32.300 uh,

00:25:32.480 Joe and,

00:25:33.320 uh,

00:25:34.220 Ted,

00:25:34.500 he held the cue cards.

00:25:35.680 I mean,

00:25:35.980 which is amazing.

00:25:37.080 And,

00:25:37.520 and he definitely wanted him to,

00:25:40.940 to basically resign.

00:25:42.240 Yeah.

00:25:42.580 I mean,

00:25:42.900 it's a powerful scene,

00:25:44.400 you know,

00:25:44.960 right before he goes on camera.

00:25:46.500 And,

00:25:46.940 uh,

00:25:47.600 yeah,

00:25:47.820 I mean,

00:25:48.040 a lot of things that when you put them together,

00:25:50.180 the facts,

00:25:51.000 it's,

00:25:51.200 it's incredible.

00:25:51.680 When we read the script,

00:25:52.660 my,

00:25:52.860 my hand sweat,

00:25:53.940 you know,

00:25:54.320 and,

00:25:54.780 and,

00:25:55.040 and that's all you can ask for from a script.

00:25:56.800 And hopefully we can get that on the screen.

00:25:58.600 And,

00:25:59.440 you know,

00:26:00.320 and one of the bigger things is,

00:26:01.340 you know,

00:26:01.520 we spoke to the scuba diver that found her and it was,

00:26:04.140 you know,

00:26:04.860 an hour conversation.

00:26:06.240 And boy,

00:26:07.000 you talk about going back in time.

00:26:09.120 He,

00:26:09.520 he recounted it as it was yesterday,

00:26:11.560 John Ferrer,

00:26:12.240 and we tracked him down and,

00:26:13.480 and boy,

00:26:14.040 it was unbelievable,

00:26:14.720 you know,

00:26:15.240 because his contention was that she was alive in that car for a period of

00:26:18.220 time and that she didn't drown.

00:26:19.400 She like three hours,

00:26:20.720 right?

00:26:21.220 Like three hours.

00:26:22.180 He said it could have been up to a couple hours.

00:26:23.760 So,

00:26:24.160 you know,

00:26:24.540 he could have lit that Island up.

00:26:26.060 He walked past the dyke house,

00:26:27.660 75 yards away.

00:26:28.840 We make a point of showing that as the,

00:26:30.940 you know,

00:26:31.060 the car drives by and he decided,

00:26:32.840 uh,

00:26:33.660 a lot of missteps,

00:26:34.720 you know,

00:26:34.920 along the way,

00:26:35.600 but you know,

00:26:35.980 it was self-preservation from the time of the act.

00:26:38.260 Yeah.

00:26:38.460 Bad,

00:26:38.840 bad dude.

00:26:39.920 Mark,

00:26:40.340 we're going to,

00:26:40.780 uh,

00:26:41.080 we're talking to the producer of,

00:26:42.480 uh,

00:26:42.680 of the new movie,

00:26:43.440 Chappaquiddick,

00:26:44.100 Mark Chiardi.

00:26:44.980 Mark,

00:26:45.240 I would,

00:26:45.800 if as a conservative,

00:26:47.200 if you would have told me two years ago,

00:26:49.140 they're going to make a movie about Chappaquiddick and it's not going to be

00:26:51.740 some crappy right wing movie.

00:26:53.940 It's going to be a really good movie with really good actors with a wide

00:26:57.620 Hollywood release.

00:26:58.840 I would have told you you were insane.

00:27:01.320 I mean,

00:27:02.120 can you tell us the story of how this movie got made?

00:27:04.840 Yeah.

00:27:05.320 You know,

00:27:05.760 uh,

00:27:06.100 I,

00:27:06.300 I started a independent film company a few years ago and,

00:27:09.220 and one of the first meetings I had was with a friend of mine,

00:27:11.600 uh,

00:27:11.960 Chris Fenton.

00:27:12.560 He's also one of the producers.

00:27:13.760 And after the launch,

00:27:15.000 we were telling him,

00:27:15.500 you know,

00:27:15.620 we're looking for material.

00:27:16.840 He called a couple of weeks later.

00:27:17.940 He says,

00:27:18.180 listen,

00:27:18.420 I got this great script.

00:27:19.520 He goes,

00:27:19.760 I have no idea how the town's going to respond to it.

00:27:22.220 He said,

00:27:22.720 do you want to read it?

00:27:23.520 We read it.

00:27:24.100 We fell in love with it.

00:27:24.960 It was,

00:27:25.380 it was not supposed to be a political move of like,

00:27:27.500 Oh yeah,

00:27:27.780 we got to do this.

00:27:28.860 It just was an amazing script.

00:27:30.120 It landed on the blacklist,

00:27:31.320 which are all the top scripts of the year.

00:27:32.940 And then it's like,

00:27:33.740 next step is like,

00:27:34.460 how does,

00:27:34.740 how's the town going to respond?

00:27:35.980 And,

00:27:36.300 and people read it and loved it and supported it.

00:27:39.100 So,

00:27:39.660 you know,

00:27:40.020 Hollywood,

00:27:40.660 you know,

00:27:41.080 did,

00:27:41.380 did,

00:27:41.600 I think did a great thing.

00:27:42.580 And,

00:27:42.840 and,

00:27:43.240 uh,

00:27:43.800 you know,

00:27:44.120 it's based on material,

00:27:45.260 not,

00:27:45.660 not political ideology.

00:27:46.880 And,

00:27:47.300 and we put the movie together,

00:27:48.500 no pushback at all until recently when,

00:27:51.400 you know,

00:27:52.240 uh,

00:27:52.620 I think,

00:27:53.080 you know,

00:27:53.260 our distributor,

00:27:53.900 Byron Allen's been on record of,

00:27:55.200 you know,

00:27:55.300 there's people that don't want you to see this film.

00:27:57.180 There's pressure exerted.

00:27:58.780 He didn't go into it,

00:27:59.740 who,

00:28:00.340 uh,

00:28:00.620 what or when,

00:28:01.420 but,

00:28:01.640 uh,

00:28:02.060 it,

00:28:02.280 it,

00:28:02.560 he definitely felt it.

00:28:03.340 I only saw one review and it was from CNN and they said it was heavy handed

00:28:07.180 and it is the farthest thing from heavy handed.

00:28:09.920 I mean,

00:28:10.660 uh,

00:28:11.060 that was a political review.

00:28:12.640 I thought it was great.

00:28:13.800 And Jim Gaffigan is becoming a real actor.

00:28:19.240 I mean,

00:28:19.780 I wrote to Jim yesterday or day before.

00:28:22.320 And I,

00:28:22.660 after I saw it and I said,

00:28:23.720 Jim,

00:28:24.580 it is so hard.

00:28:26.460 You know,

00:28:26.700 I can't see Martin Sheen for anything other than Martin Sheen when he's out in

00:28:31.120 the public all the time.

00:28:32.400 Yeah.

00:28:32.500 Here's a comedian I love and I watch and I just saw in concert here recently.

00:28:37.460 I didn't see that comedian on the screen at all.

00:28:40.160 That's almost impossible to do.

00:28:42.840 Yeah.

00:28:43.360 He,

00:28:43.520 he was great.

00:28:44.160 You know,

00:28:44.300 him and Ed Helms known for comedic,

00:28:46.180 you know,

00:28:46.360 really good,

00:28:47.120 but we're both kind of comedians,

00:28:48.440 but we wanted John currently had from the outset.

00:28:51.760 He wanted these two guys.

00:28:52.760 He just,

00:28:53.080 it's such a serious movie that there's moments of,

00:28:56.160 I wouldn't call it levity,

00:28:57.040 but kind of a lightness and the timing that they're just great at.

00:29:00.320 And there's some big laughs in the movie when,

00:29:03.020 you know,

00:29:03.480 ironically,

00:29:04.320 like when the war room happens in these kind of series of missteps and,

00:29:07.540 you know,

00:29:08.880 so it's,

00:29:10.160 it is funny in certain spots,

00:29:12.020 but you know,

00:29:12.440 the other thing is like,

00:29:13.220 we've been reviewed incredibly well.

00:29:14.760 Uh,

00:29:15.120 and I'm appreciative of,

00:29:16.220 you know,

00:29:16.820 walls,

00:29:17.400 you know,

00:29:17.760 um,

00:29:18.340 uh,

00:29:18.840 all these kind of,

00:29:19.720 you know,

00:29:19.900 more liberal publications,

00:29:20.980 uh,

00:29:21.940 village boys,

00:29:22.680 Washington post,

00:29:23.320 New York times.

00:29:23.820 So it's,

00:29:24.200 it's,

00:29:24.480 it's great that people aren't looking at it politically.

00:29:26.820 I mean,

00:29:27.200 the CNN one wasn't,

00:29:28.620 you know,

00:29:28.960 was,

00:29:29.260 was mixed,

00:29:29.800 but,

00:29:30.240 uh,

00:29:30.460 for the most part,

00:29:31.260 people have really kind of,

00:29:32.760 uh,

00:29:33.000 what you pointed up and pointed out in the beginning of your show is exactly what the intent was.

00:29:37.520 And people are seeing it for that.

00:29:38.680 So that's great.

00:29:39.180 I watched it with my daughters and,

00:29:40.920 uh,

00:29:41.260 my nieces and nephews the other day.

00:29:43.180 None of them had known what Chappaquiddick was.

00:29:45.700 And I,

00:29:46.340 I don't like,

00:29:47.800 I,

00:29:48.060 I really have a hard time with,

00:29:49.780 uh,

00:29:50.420 with heavy handed message movies.

00:29:52.120 And I kind of went into this going,

00:29:53.860 okay,

00:29:54.100 is this going to be one of those?

00:29:55.320 And I'm going to have to say,

00:29:56.140 well,

00:29:56.320 that's not exactly true.

00:29:57.620 And you know,

00:29:58.460 blah,

00:29:58.680 blah,

00:29:58.800 blah.

00:29:59.420 Uh,

00:29:59.880 I thought it was so well balanced and I really think you've done a service.

00:30:04.080 Not only have you done a great movie,

00:30:05.340 you can just go and it's a great,

00:30:06.720 you know,

00:30:06.980 movie night.

00:30:08.040 Um,

00:30:08.400 and if you don't care about it,

00:30:10.040 you know,

00:30:10.400 anybody at all,

00:30:11.100 it's just an amazing story.

00:30:12.980 And I think that's why everybody wanted to have this made of,

00:30:16.600 you know,

00:30:16.920 now is it is a great story once you get away from the politics.

00:30:20.680 And I,

00:30:21.120 I can't,

00:30:21.760 um,

00:30:22.140 I can't thank you enough for not slanting it one way or another,

00:30:25.800 just telling the story and letting the chips fall where they may.

00:30:29.080 Well,

00:30:29.480 thank you.

00:30:29.960 I mean,

00:30:30.100 that was the intent of it.

00:30:31.100 And I'm,

00:30:31.380 I'm so happy people are receiving it that way.

00:30:33.480 And,

00:30:33.780 you know,

00:30:33.920 we've said from the beginning,

00:30:35.120 it's not about the left or the right.

00:30:36.400 It's about the truth.

00:30:37.160 And,

00:30:38.200 you know,

00:30:38.440 sometimes that's the most compelling thing not to editorialize,

00:30:41.020 just present the facts and let people make up their own mind about his actions.

00:30:45.240 And,

00:30:45.640 and,

00:30:46.080 uh,

00:30:46.340 you know,

00:30:46.580 what happened that,

00:30:47.440 uh,

00:30:47.680 that week and the rest of his career.

00:30:49.320 One last question that was filmed in Chappaquiddick,

00:30:52.740 right?

00:30:53.020 I mean,

00:30:53.320 is,

00:30:53.540 is that the real bridge?

00:30:55.600 Well,

00:30:56.020 what we,

00:30:56.540 yeah,

00:30:56.660 the first two days we shot in Chappaquiddick,

00:30:58.660 what you see,

00:30:59.520 the,

00:30:59.880 the bridge is changing that it has guardrails.

00:31:01.900 Now we had to digitally remove those,

00:31:03.560 the scene that we wanted to show,

00:31:05.480 and we showed the geography of that island.

00:31:06.920 But when the,

00:31:07.420 when the,

00:31:07.800 the fishermen and the sun find that car in the morning,

00:31:10.900 that's the actual spot it happened in.

00:31:12.860 And you see him,

00:31:14.000 the little boy run from the bridge to the diecast.

00:31:16.220 We wanted to show that short distance where he went.

00:31:19.500 And then we went to Mexico and recreated the exact replica to do our tank work and crash.

00:31:24.740 And so it was a,

00:31:25.660 it was a big effort,

00:31:26.420 but we shot on the North shore of Boston and,

00:31:28.460 uh,

00:31:28.860 yeah,

00:31:29.240 there you go.

00:31:29.920 They welcomed us with open arms there.

00:31:31.560 It was great.

00:31:32.140 Mark,

00:31:32.620 the name of the movie is Chappaquiddick and it opens today.

00:31:35.620 Let me just,

00:31:36.200 let me leave you this.

00:31:37.620 My grandfather,

00:31:38.760 uh,

00:31:39.380 was,

00:31:40.360 uh,

00:31:40.680 a horse trainer and my grandfather,

00:31:42.640 my grandfather also was the greatest storyteller ever.

00:31:45.600 He,

00:31:45.900 he,

00:31:46.220 I,

00:31:46.860 we kind of know him now as the greatest liar in the family.

00:31:50.200 Uh,

00:31:50.720 but he made up stories and we don't have any idea what part of our family history is true and not.

00:31:56.520 Uh,

00:31:57.000 and he used to tell the story of secretariat and he used to tell about the training and everything.

00:32:03.240 And we didn't know if any of that was true because it came from my grandfather and we went in my,

00:32:10.700 my,

00:32:11.140 uh,

00:32:11.640 and my aunt who's now in her seventies.

00:32:13.920 She went when it first came out and we all called each other and went,

00:32:17.940 oh my gosh,

00:32:19.260 it's true.

00:32:21.640 That movie was so well done and,

00:32:24.200 uh,

00:32:24.460 and really meant something to me is,

00:32:26.100 uh,

00:32:26.420 uh,

00:32:26.720 you know,

00:32:27.020 and our family.

00:32:27.780 So thank you very much for that too.

00:32:29.780 God bless.

00:32:30.260 You're welcome.

00:32:30.780 You're welcome.

00:32:31.360 You bet.

00:32:31.680 Appreciate it,

00:32:32.300 Glenn.

00:32:32.500 You bet.

00:32:32.760 Bye-bye.

00:32:32.940 I can't wait to see this.

00:32:38.660 Chapaquitic.

00:32:39.140 You'll love it.

00:32:40.220 Out in theaters.

00:32:40.960 I mean,

00:32:41.220 the cast is awesome too.

00:32:42.600 I mean,

00:32:42.780 not only Jim Gaffigan,

00:32:43.900 who's great.

00:32:45.060 Uh,

00:32:45.480 Ed Helms,

00:32:46.000 who's awesome as well.

00:32:47.100 Ed Helms,

00:32:47.620 in case you don't know,

00:32:48.320 he's the guy for the office for the office.

00:32:50.560 He was great.

00:32:51.180 Kate Mara from,

00:32:52.120 uh,

00:32:52.240 you remember her from a house of cards?

00:32:53.880 If you watch that,

00:32:54.540 she's awesome.

00:32:55.580 She plays Mary Jo.

00:32:57.040 Yeah.

00:32:57.320 Really good.

00:32:57.940 Uh,

00:32:58.300 I mean,

00:32:58.560 the whole cast is Bruce Dern,

00:32:59.980 of course,

00:33:00.240 as well.

00:33:00.640 I mean,

00:33:00.840 Jason Clark,

00:33:01.320 it's a really good cast.

00:33:02.420 Really well done.

00:33:03.040 This isn't some like little,

00:33:04.580 I mean,

00:33:04.800 we kept hitting that point over and over again,

00:33:06.420 but I,

00:33:07.020 I am legitimately stunned this movie was made.

00:33:10.440 I am legitimately stunned that it is,

00:33:13.720 it was made by all the Hollywood people and it doesn't defend him.

00:33:18.680 Yeah.

00:33:19.260 I mean,

00:33:19.620 it's,

00:33:20.040 it doesn't,

00:33:21.000 it doesn't make him into,

00:33:22.980 you know,

00:33:23.560 a monster like you would,

00:33:26.360 you know,

00:33:26.680 you'd rewrite it to make him a monster.

00:33:28.820 You're just left with good God,

00:33:31.320 that guy was evil.

00:33:33.240 You know,

00:33:33.580 you really are left with,

00:33:35.040 okay,

00:33:35.200 he had struggles,

00:33:36.280 but man,

00:33:36.940 he knew what he was doing and he chose to let her die and he chose to cover it up for power.

00:33:42.540 I'm struck too by the,

00:33:43.380 I think it's the promotional hashtag they're using for the,

00:33:46.340 it's just hashtag.

00:33:47.540 This really happened.

00:33:49.420 I mean,

00:33:50.220 cause I,

00:33:50.720 I don't think people believe that something like this crazy could happen.

00:33:53.960 And this guy could go on for decades of almost hero worship.

00:33:58.520 It's incredible.

00:33:59.320 It's incredible.

00:34:00.100 Make sure you see it this weekend.

00:34:01.280 It's Chappaquiddick.

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00:35:51.700 I think this is really interesting.

00:35:52.920 The screenwriters of Chappaquiddick, Taylor Allen and Andrew Logan, they, they both grew up

00:35:58.020 in Dallas where John F. Kennedy was assassinated and they grew up and they, you know, had been

00:36:02.560 to Dealey Palauz and everything.

00:36:03.720 And they were fascinated by the Kennedys in 2008.

00:36:09.040 They're listening to Bill Maher on a real time after Ted Kennedy endorses Barack Obama.

00:36:15.900 And they started thinking about why, why did Ted Kennedy never run for president?

00:36:20.060 They had never heard of Chappaquiddick.

00:36:23.060 They had never heard of it.

00:36:25.280 And then when they started looking into it, they're like, how was this never brought up?

00:36:30.480 What happened?

00:36:32.120 It's why it's why I think you'll see the, the time they took to show the machinery that Ted

00:36:39.380 Kennedy had around him, uh, that just stopped everything dead in its tracks.

00:36:45.480 Uh, it, it, it's, it's quite amazing, but to have two people, I don't know if they're left

00:36:50.260 or right, find out in 2008 and they're intelligent people and fans of the Kennedys and they go,

00:36:58.520 wait a minute, what?

00:36:59.620 That's amazing.

00:37:00.160 And look, we started this hour out with Kevin Williamson getting fired from the Atlantic

00:37:04.460 for a comment he made in an intellectual debate about abortion.

00:37:08.480 Uh, here's a guy who, who killed somebody basically left him to die drowning under the

00:37:14.140 water.

00:37:14.400 And he went on for decades, decades in that same job elected.

00:37:18.740 I think the lowest, the closest anyone ever got to him was 58% was his lowest percentage

00:37:22.640 in reelection.

00:37:23.380 Amazing.

00:37:23.920 Because of the cowardice and the ignorance of people.

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00:37:45.220 All right.

00:37:45.860 So we should talk about the, uh, the trade deal that China has come back because it's

00:37:50.260 easy to win a hundred billion dollar trade, uh, uh, barrier that Trump has put up.

00:37:57.680 China is responding and it's not pretty, but I think this is more important.

00:38:04.780 China is doing something else.

00:38:06.340 They're clamping down even harder on religion.

00:38:09.040 Remember when China seemed to be trying to show the world that, you know, oh, look, we're

00:38:13.280 a hybrid system.

00:38:14.220 See, you can have a bustling economy, you know, just like yours.

00:38:18.500 And, uh, you know, right alongside this friendly communist regime that, you know, just kills

00:38:24.220 your children in mud puddles.

00:38:25.440 But, hey, we're swell.

00:38:28.300 Yeah.

00:38:28.440 Those days are over.

00:38:30.020 Now, President Xi is, um, is, uh, moving on parliament again.

00:38:34.600 He's already gotten parliament to remove the term limits for the, uh, constitution so he

00:38:40.480 can be God again, ruler for life.

00:38:42.800 He's being called the most powerful Chinese leader since Mao in China.

00:38:47.220 And that's a compliment, or I should say it's a required compliment.

00:38:51.820 So it's no big surprise this week when President Xi goes to the Chinese government and shuts down

00:38:58.980 the online sales of the Bible.

00:39:01.400 Now, why is that?

00:39:03.240 What could possibly be in that book that is so dangerous to tyrants?

00:39:08.840 I mean, what, what, what could it be?

00:39:10.880 We don't know because we don't read it here in America anymore.

00:39:15.380 China already strictly controlled the sales of Bibles by allowing them to be printed and

00:39:19.860 distributed only through official state churches.

00:39:23.200 But in recent years, Bibles began popping up for sale through Chinese online outlets, including

00:39:29.160 Amazon, but not anymore.

00:39:31.980 By the way, the Koran is still available for purchase online.

00:39:36.500 No Bibles.

00:39:37.520 It's just another casualty of China's continual effort to restrict internet and religious

00:39:44.000 freedom.

00:39:45.200 Sarah Cook, she's a senior East Asia analyst at Freedom House said, quote, religious topics

00:39:50.800 and groups are among the most censored in China.

00:39:53.480 We found the Chinese authorities increasingly using more high tech methods to control religion

00:39:59.800 and to punish believers, including surveillance and arrest for believers for sharing information

00:40:06.880 online.

00:40:07.580 End quote.

00:40:09.080 A secretive department of the Chinese Communist Party called the United Front Work Department

00:40:13.820 is now in charge of the government's efforts internally.

00:40:18.200 They used to be just overseas influence efforts, but recently they have also taken the, quote, ethnic and

00:40:24.680 religious affairs over, which means the Communist Party is moving further to tighten its

00:40:29.820 stranglehold on religion.

00:40:32.420 Analysts say the specific crackdown on Christianity is driven by President Xi.

00:40:38.380 China's state administration for religious affairs has now developed a five-year plan.

00:40:46.220 Hey, Stu, didn't Mao have a five-year plan, too?

00:40:49.220 Yeah, a couple of great ideas on that front.

00:40:50.860 Yeah.

00:40:51.160 How many people thrived under that five-year plan?

00:40:54.580 Oh, I mean, if by thrived, you mean died unnecessarily about 60 million.

00:40:58.920 Okay, but that's it.

00:41:00.200 Okay, so they've got a new five-year plan.

00:41:02.080 It includes work on a new, more Chinese version of the words of Christ.

00:41:08.440 So this ban on online Bible sales is just to clear the shelves for the new approved communist

00:41:15.440 version of scripture coming soon to Chinese pews.

00:41:19.920 Five-year plans.

00:41:22.540 Mao is a fan.

00:41:24.780 President Xi is a fan.

00:41:27.640 Oh, you know who else?

00:41:29.280 Stalin was also a fan.

00:41:32.080 It's Friday, April 6th.

00:41:38.440 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:41.460 But the world is drawing lines, and we don't seem to even, we don't even seem willing to

00:41:47.460 even talk about lines.

00:41:50.940 All right, Peter Schweitzer, he is the author of Clinton Cash.

00:41:56.340 He has come out with a new book called Secret Empires,

00:41:59.320 How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Families and Friends.

00:42:05.880 And welcome to the program, Peter Schweitzer.

00:42:08.080 How are you, Peter?

00:42:09.400 Hey, I'm great, Glenn.

00:42:10.460 Great to be back on with you.

00:42:11.640 Thanks for having me.

00:42:12.300 You bet.

00:42:12.860 So, Peter, you started with Clinton Cash, and you were looking at how they were making all

00:42:17.880 this money and where it was all coming from.

00:42:21.120 And this is an interesting, it's not even really a departure.

00:42:25.060 You went in and looked at both sides, and what did you find?

00:42:29.680 Yeah, what we found is that political elites on both sides of the aisle are engaged in massive

00:42:36.080 self-enrichment.

00:42:37.340 And it oftentimes includes foreign governments and foreign oligarchs, because they want to

00:42:42.940 pay for the access, pay for the influence.

00:42:45.340 And, you know, as you were talking there about China, and you've talked about it on a regular

00:42:49.700 basis, China looms large here.

00:42:51.760 They basically have created this strategy, Glenn, of buying off elements of American political

00:42:59.760 leadership by giving lucrative deals to their family members.

00:43:03.080 And unfortunately, it appears to be working.

00:43:05.480 So give us some examples of this.

00:43:07.820 Well, I'll give you one Democrat and one Republican, Joe Biden, Vice President Joe Biden.

00:43:12.980 Think of this for a second.

00:43:14.180 In December of 2013, Joe Biden, as Vice President of the United States, is flying on Air Force

00:43:19.500 2 to Beijing, China, a whole host of controversial issues on the table, the South China Sea, trade

00:43:25.700 issues, religious freedom, human rights, North Korea.

00:43:29.640 Well, with him on the plane is Hunter Biden, his son.

00:43:33.280 This is not the son that tragically died.

00:43:35.680 That was Beau Biden.

00:43:36.660 This is Hunter Biden.

00:43:38.320 So they fly over on Air Force 2.

00:43:40.760 Joe Biden is there for a couple of days and really gets widely criticized on that trip for

00:43:45.720 going soft on Beijing.

00:43:47.680 Well, they leave.

00:43:49.640 And Glenn, 10 days later, Hunter Biden's firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners, strikes a $1 billion,

00:43:57.100 that's with a B, billion dollar deal with the Chinese government.

00:44:01.540 This is not an American company in China.

00:44:03.960 This is not a Chinese quasi-state company.

00:44:07.220 This is the Chinese government.

00:44:09.000 And that's just the first of a series of deals that the Biden family does with the Chinese

00:44:14.800 government as Vice President Joe Biden is negotiating with the Chinese government.

00:44:19.820 So how come we're not seeing this anywhere?

00:44:22.780 Why is no one ringing the bell anywhere?

00:44:27.080 Well, it's a great question, Glenn.

00:44:28.260 I mean, look, you know, in a sense, I'm very, very frustrated, but I'm also very thankful.

00:44:32.860 I'm frustrated that the media did not cover this at all when it happened.

00:44:37.540 They're starting to cover it now.

00:44:39.620 On the other hand, I'm sort of the beneficiary of it because I'm an author and it gives me

00:44:43.360 great material that the media is not covering.

00:44:46.820 But this is the huge problem.

00:44:49.180 And what I've said is that, look, the media, you know, the punditry on Trump by some of the

00:44:55.640 mainstream media, I think, has just been like over the top.

00:44:58.440 But the reporting, the detailed reporting of, you know, Jared's meetings with foreign bankers,

00:45:05.640 that's exactly what the media should be doing.

00:45:08.480 My criticism of the media is they just don't do that much to other people.

00:45:12.880 They didn't do it to the Bidens.

00:45:14.520 They certainly haven't done it to Mitch McConnell.

00:45:16.580 And it's the selective nature of this stuff that is so frustrating that the media doesn't

00:45:23.040 want to cover.

00:45:23.580 So give me, I mean, the characters on the front of your book, the prominent ones, Obama, Biden

00:45:30.360 and Mitch McConnell.

00:45:32.100 Tell me Mitch McConnell or give me, you know, give me something on the Republican side.

00:45:36.480 Well, Mitch McConnell, again, it's China.

00:45:40.380 You know, Mitch McConnell's married to Elaine Chao, who is the transportation secretary in

00:45:45.040 the Trump administration.

00:45:46.560 Very similar situation as it was with the Bidens.

00:45:49.880 You go back a little bit earlier to 1993, Mitch McConnell, the senator from Kentucky, goes

00:45:56.480 to Beijing with his father-in-law, Elaine Chao's father, James Chao.

00:46:01.440 It's not an official congressional delegation.

00:46:04.460 They are there as guests of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation, or CSSC.

00:46:10.880 And as the name implies, Glenn, this, of course, is owned by the Chinese government.

00:46:14.980 And in fact, it's really one of the largest defense contractors in Beijing.

00:46:19.880 They're the ones building the ships that are trying to challenge U.S. naval supremacy.

00:46:25.600 So they go there in 1993.

00:46:27.440 And what Beijing basically says, and of course, they see the lay of the land.

00:46:30.860 They see that Mitch McConnell is this rising senator.

00:46:33.440 They say, look, we will set you up in the shipping business.

00:46:37.100 We will give the Chao family, their company foremost group, this great deal.

00:46:41.400 We will build your ships for you.

00:46:43.840 We will finance the construction of those ships.

00:46:46.880 We'll provide crews for those ships.

00:46:49.560 And we will provide contracts for those ships.

00:46:53.340 And, you know, long story short, over the next 25 years, the family has become very, very wealthy, courtesy of the Chinese government.

00:47:00.840 And James Chao, a couple of years ago, just gave a gift to Mitch McConnell of between $5 million and $25 million.

00:47:08.540 So he's a direct beneficiary of this.

00:47:12.080 Here's the problem, Glenn, and you probably know where this is going.

00:47:15.660 Look at Mitch McConnell's record on China.

00:47:19.020 After the Tiananmen Square massacre up until 1993, he was one of the most vocal opponents of Beijing when it came to human rights, when it came to these national security issues.

00:47:30.360 That has all gone away.

00:47:32.640 He will say an occasional thing about, you know, China.

00:47:35.720 Well, gosh, we wish they were better about human rights.

00:47:38.160 But it is incredibly muted.

00:47:39.940 And he has worked aggressively.

00:47:41.320 I count this in Secret Empires.

00:47:42.920 He's worked aggressively to undermine any attempt to deal with issues related to human rights, trade issues, currency manipulation, et cetera.

00:47:53.000 So it's very, very clear, I think, in both the case of Biden and McConnell, Chao, that they have, A, made these political families very wealthy, and, B, those political families have, in effect, returned the favor by going soft on Beijing.

00:48:10.020 It's a strategy that is terrible, and it's working.

00:48:14.380 The name of the book is Secret Empires.

00:48:18.900 I want Peter to stick around and tell you about smash and grab.

00:48:24.040 What politicians are doing, it sounds an awful lot like what Andrew Jackson did when he went into office as the poorest president and left office as the richest president.

00:48:37.960 We'll give you that coming up in just a few minutes.

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00:50:00.600 We reported on Tuesday that the Nazarene Fund is trying to help a group of persecuted Iranian Christian refugees.

00:50:09.660 These people are known in the media as the Lautenberg Christians.

00:50:12.440 They were waiting for their final permission to emigrate to the United States.

00:50:15.380 And at the last minute, they were denied visas by the U.S. government.

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00:50:37.620 Back with Peter Schweitzer, who has written a book, Secret Empires, and it's all about how the political class here in America is hiding their corruption and enriching their friends and family.

00:50:49.420 This strikes me, Peter, very much as what Andrew Jackson did when he would go in and say,

00:50:56.240 I'm going to take this Indian territory and break all these treaties and, hey, go down there, just be standing by the land office.

00:51:05.440 You know, 9 o'clock, something's going to happen.

00:51:07.900 Be ready and buy some land for me.

00:51:10.080 And he enriched all of his friends and him.

00:51:13.260 Yeah, no, that's exactly right.

00:51:15.000 This is a repeat of that, what we call smash and grab, and it involves Barack Obama.

00:51:20.160 I mean, I'm somebody who has not been an Obama fan as far as his policies and his worldview,

00:51:26.120 but I never really thought that there was going to be much financial corruption in his inner circle, and I was just dead wrong.

00:51:33.760 And smash and grab is very similar.

00:51:35.620 As the name implies, Barack Obama would go in and smash a company or smash an industry,

00:51:40.540 and then a very close friend or a close financial ally, it could be George Soros, it could be Tom Steyer,

00:51:47.200 or it could be his best friend, a guy a lot of people have never heard of named Marty Nesbitt,

00:51:51.860 would come in and buy the company for pennies on the dollar.

00:51:54.620 And the most vivid example, I would say, is probably the University of Phoenix,

00:51:59.340 which is a for-profit school that the Obama administration decided was not serving students well,

00:52:06.420 by their definition.

00:52:07.940 And they said, we're not going to allow GI Bill money, that is money from the Pentagon,

00:52:12.260 that allows active duty soldiers and others who've been enlisted to use that money to attend to the University of Phoenix.

00:52:19.480 Well, you can imagine, Glenn, what happened to the stock price of that company.

00:52:23.840 It went from $100 a share down to about $3 a share.

00:52:27.760 At which point, Glenn, his best friend, Marty Nesbitt, who runs something called the Vistoria Fund in Chicago,

00:52:35.640 stepped in and bought the company for pennies on the dollar.

00:52:39.080 At which point, you probably know where this is going next,

00:52:41.820 the Obama administration reversed course and said, you know what, we are now going to allow GI Bill dollars to flow to this company,

00:52:49.960 thereby, of course, elevating the valuation again.

00:52:52.560 So it's a very insidious form of crony capitalism and corruption,

00:52:58.120 because you're not only taking something that doesn't belong to you,

00:53:02.020 you're actually destroying other people's businesses.

00:53:04.740 Whether it's the University of Phoenix, they did it to coal companies,

00:53:08.280 they did it to payday lenders, and his friend stepped in and made a lot of money through smash and grab.

00:53:14.400 Did you get into it at all?

00:53:15.980 I remember right at the beginning of the Obama administration,

00:53:19.520 when they took over GM, and then they started picking and choosing car dealerships,

00:53:26.140 and people who had car dealerships forever lost those.

00:53:29.260 Did you get into that at all?

00:53:30.960 I didn't, but that's a great point to bring up.

00:53:34.220 I mean, this is the problem.

00:53:35.260 You know, we've talked about crony capitalism before,

00:53:38.040 is you give politicians the power to pick winners and losers.

00:53:41.560 And the losers, you know, shock of all shocks, tend to be opponents or non-allies of the politicians.

00:53:49.420 And the winners always seem to be their close friends and allies.

00:53:54.260 And, you know, it's very, very difficult to detect.

00:53:58.980 But, you know, it's like this circle.

00:54:00.700 So what you have is Marty Nesbitt making all of this money through the actions of his best friend, Barack Obama.

00:54:08.300 What is Marty Nesbitt now?

00:54:10.020 He's the chairman of the Obama Foundation.

00:54:13.060 So he is now pouring money into Barack Obama's next enterprise.

00:54:17.960 So it's the ultimate sort of in backscratching.

00:54:21.000 And, you know, this is the sort of insidious stuff that you are going to get with any president when you have them intervening in markets these ways and picking winners and losers.

00:54:32.940 So this is why I think conspiracies start, because you have exposed both sides in your book.

00:54:38.680 And there will be people that would be, you know, friends of mine that are on the right or on the left that will overlook things that, you know, will happen with the Bushes or happen with the Trumps.

00:54:50.940 But they will zero in on Barack Obama.

00:54:53.480 The same thing with the people on the on the left.

00:54:56.700 They will not listen to anything about Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

00:55:00.680 And they think it's conspiracy theory because no one is covering both sides.

00:55:07.160 Right.

00:55:07.640 No, this is a huge point.

00:55:10.080 And the only way we are ever going to get at the root of corruption and cronyism is when we are prepared to call out our own side.

00:55:18.660 The corrupt political class works in a bipartisan manner on one thing, and that is feathering their own nests.

00:55:27.260 You know, there is cooperation on that.

00:55:29.040 There may not be on the budget.

00:55:30.540 There may not be on a whole host of other issues.

00:55:32.580 On that issue, they cooperate.

00:55:35.220 And they are counting on the fact that we have this binary view.

00:55:40.040 Well, you know, I can't call out the guy on my side because if I do, the other side might gain a seat and we're going to lose.

00:55:46.960 So I've just got to stick with a corrupt guy on my side.

00:55:50.180 And both sides do it.

00:55:52.220 So my challenge to people is if they're going to talk about corruption, you need to be prepared to call out somebody on your side first.

00:55:59.800 You've done this, Glenn.

00:56:01.000 There are other people doing it.

00:56:02.680 But precious few want to do it.

00:56:05.000 They end up using corruption and cronyism just as a bat to hit the other side with rather than really trying to change this stuff.

00:56:14.000 Is anybody doing anything in Congress to stop it?

00:56:16.120 I mean, really?

00:56:17.880 You know, I don't think there's all there are some reformers that tend to be more junior.

00:56:22.420 The problem you get is the longer the people stay in Washington, D.C., the less bad it appears to them.

00:56:28.280 I had a guy who served in Congress for eight years who told me, he said, look, let's be very clear.

00:56:33.760 When you first get to Washington, D.C., most people see it, you know, a cesspool.

00:56:39.680 But you stay a few years and then it starts to feel like a hot tub.

00:56:43.300 You know, it's just it's comfortable.

00:56:45.140 It's it's you know, you get used to the smell, you get used to the odor.

00:56:48.900 And then you think, oh, this isn't really that bad.

00:56:51.300 So it's, you know, on issues like term limits, which I used to not think were a good idea.

00:56:55.520 I have changed course because we've got to root out this culture.

00:56:59.500 You've got people on both sides of the aisle shouting at each other, saying this side, if they take over, are going to wreck the country.

00:57:07.600 And then what do they do?

00:57:08.540 They both retire and they open a lobbying shop together.

00:57:12.380 So there's so much theater related to the partisan difference.

00:57:16.340 But when it comes to the sort of industrial logic business model of Washington, D.C., they're all on the same team.

00:57:23.060 Peter Schweitzer, the name of the book is Secret Empires, available now.

00:57:26.900 How the American political class hides corruption and enriches family and friends.

00:57:31.980 Peter, thanks for your hard work.

00:57:33.380 Thanks for exposing it yet again.

00:57:35.080 I appreciate it.

00:57:35.860 God bless.

00:57:36.380 Thanks, Glenn.

00:57:36.800 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

00:57:53.440 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:58:10.340 So if you weren't following the news yesterday, you might have heard that Kevin Williamson was fired from the Atlantic.

00:58:22.220 Who is Kevin Williamson?

00:58:23.960 Well, he's a really, really smart libertarian.

00:58:26.560 And he's a guy who is very, very dry in his sense of humor and says things in pointed ways to get you to think.

00:58:40.700 That's his job.

00:58:42.380 Get you to think.

00:58:44.700 He was just hired away from the National Review.

00:58:48.200 And he is truly one of our greater minds.

00:58:51.540 And he was hired by the Atlantic.

00:58:54.400 Now, a lot of his friends said, you're not going to find a happy place over there, Kevin.

00:58:59.700 Let's see how long this lasts.

00:59:01.280 No, no, no, no, no.

00:59:02.160 They're interested in the other side as long as it's, you know, it's intelligent dialogue.

00:59:08.480 Okay.

00:59:10.240 Well, Media Matters gets involved.

00:59:12.760 And they start to find, they start doing their digging on him.

00:59:15.980 And you can always find something on somebody.

00:59:18.960 And they found a podcast that he did where he posed the question, if you believe that abortion is murder, shouldn't we hang the people or give them the death penalty if they've had one or performed one?

00:59:36.480 Because wouldn't we do that for a child if a child was murdered?

00:59:42.720 Why wouldn't we give them the maximum sentence?

00:59:45.340 Now, in that same podcast, he said, now, I don't believe in the death penalty, but I'm just asking the question.

00:59:54.160 That was too much for Media Matters.

00:59:56.200 So they started a campaign and they didn't let the free market decide.

01:00:02.360 They, Media Matters, is brown shirts or black shirts, whatever, whatever side of fascism you would like.

01:00:08.860 They took to the streets, the phone and email, and they started letting Atlantic, the Atlantic know, you've got a Nazi in your midst.

01:00:18.620 And we should be clear, the comments made by Kevin Williamson do not cross any line of Media Matters.

01:00:25.520 There is no line of Media Matters.

01:00:27.260 The only line of Media Matters is opportunity.

01:00:29.640 And they saw an opportunity with Kevin Williamson to flex their muscle and try to get new donations and gain more power and scare conservatives and scare mainstream media from hiring conservatives.

01:00:40.360 They are not offended in the least by anything that Kevin Williamson has ever written.

01:00:45.740 They don't care at all.

01:00:47.220 They only care about their own power and their own money, period.

01:00:52.520 They are nothing but an organization dedicated to destruction.

01:01:00.320 And they see Kevin Williamson's comment, you know, look, obviously they're a liberal organization.

01:01:05.680 They oppose the pro-life movement.

01:01:08.160 But there's no difference for them between what Kevin Williamson said about entertaining the potential death penalty for people who get the abortions

01:01:16.020 and someone who says, you shouldn't be able to abort someone nine seconds before birth.

01:01:21.320 There's no room between those two comments for Media Matters.

01:01:24.360 They don't care at all.

01:01:25.740 They just know they can't get people fired for saying you shouldn't be able to abort people nine seconds before birth.

01:01:31.660 They, and that's all they care about is destruction.

01:01:34.860 They're, they're a joke.

01:01:36.000 I mean, and they're, you know, look, they'll say anything.

01:01:38.220 They'll do anything.

01:01:39.340 They've had to retract stories about me in the past.

01:01:43.360 This is an organization that doesn't care.

01:01:45.240 They are just looking for, to try to perform a character assassination over anyone who's on the right.

01:01:52.120 So the, the idea that this comment is like really out of line for them, they don't care about the comment.

01:01:57.020 That's not the business they're in.

01:01:58.600 They're in a business of opportunistic destruction.

01:02:01.500 So here's the thing.

01:02:02.940 You either have balls or you don't.

01:02:06.420 I've had people work for me.

01:02:08.500 Amy Holmes, who's in our studio here in a few minutes.

01:02:11.340 Amy Holmes has worked for me.

01:02:13.840 She believes in abortion.

01:02:15.760 She was open about her belief on abortion.

01:02:17.900 She was consistent on her belief on abortion and I am pro-life.

01:02:24.820 Okay.

01:02:25.500 We, we can't work with each other.

01:02:27.280 Of course we can.

01:02:28.380 We can't be on the same platform.

01:02:30.540 Of course we can challenge.

01:02:32.780 You mean the intellectual exercise that we need every day.

01:02:37.200 Challenge me, but don't do it in a bomb throwing way.

01:02:40.760 Be consistent and be educated on whatever it is you're talking about.

01:02:45.980 Don't be an idiot.

01:02:48.580 That's important.

01:02:50.680 Now, Kevin Williamson is anything but an idiot.

01:02:54.820 And he was very clear that this was a mental exercise.

01:02:58.760 Now, let me ask you this.

01:03:01.380 Kevin Williamson poses a question.

01:03:07.240 If you believe it's murder, shouldn't we then prosecute those who murdered that child?

01:03:16.240 Good question.

01:03:18.200 Some mental gymnastics.

01:03:19.320 Am I consistent?

01:03:21.480 What do I really believe?

01:03:23.100 Why not?

01:03:24.040 Or why?

01:03:25.380 Those are all things that the average person should be thinking.

01:03:28.380 But he's saying, if you actually believe this is murder and these people who are the doctors have blood on their hands, should they be prosecuted?

01:03:42.080 And if not, why?

01:03:43.900 And he gets fired from the Atlantic.

01:03:46.920 But I want to play some audio from somebody who said almost the same thing.

01:03:53.140 Except this is not in any way, shape or form something that you should be executed for.

01:04:01.040 Listen to Roseanne Barr.

01:04:03.260 Of course, the guilty must be punished.

01:04:05.260 And that we can no longer let our children see their guilty leaders getting away with murder.

01:04:11.080 Because it teaches children that they don't have to have any morals and as long as they have guns and are bullies that they'll win.

01:04:18.480 And I don't think that's a good message.

01:04:19.960 I do say that I am for the return of the guillotine and that is for the worst of the worst of the guilty.

01:04:27.240 I first would allow the guilty bankers to pay, you know, the ability to pay back anything over 100 million personal wealth.

01:04:34.780 Because I believe in a maximum wage of 100 million dollars.

01:04:39.060 And if they're unable to live on that amount, then they should, you know, go to the re-education camps.

01:04:44.080 And if that doesn't help, then be beheaded.

01:04:47.900 Now, nowhere on Russian TV did she go, or anytime else, did she go on to say, oh, I was just a parody bit.

01:04:55.920 Oh, I was just trying to make people think.

01:04:58.580 And she's rewarded with an ABC show.

01:05:02.580 Now, how does this work?

01:05:03.620 I'm just trying to find the consistency here.

01:05:05.800 They're both talking about execution.

01:05:08.280 They're both talking about execution.

01:05:10.240 That's for something that is controversial, yet legal.

01:05:15.400 One, people actually die and people have actually caused the death of another individual.

01:05:24.760 The other is corruption.

01:05:27.040 Both bad.

01:05:29.040 One worse.

01:05:30.960 Murder.

01:05:31.480 And really what Kevin's doing there is totally different than what Rosanna's doing.

01:05:38.100 Rosanna's advocating an execution for people who made money in some way she finds to be corrupt.

01:05:45.860 Yeah.

01:05:46.160 Well, that and re-education camps.

01:05:48.520 And re-education camps.

01:05:49.640 Yeah.

01:05:49.760 But, you know, execution.

01:05:52.780 And that is her advocating for a specific thing.

01:05:56.880 What it seems like Kevin Williamson was doing from the parts that I've heard from his commentary is exploring the idea is when we say abortion is murder, is it what we mean or is it a rhetorical device?

01:06:07.280 For example, the NRA is a terrorist organization, is something the left says often, right?

01:06:13.060 If they actually believed the NRA is a terrorist organization, the answer to that question is not to restrict future purchases from 18 to 20 year olds of one type of weapon, right?

01:06:24.000 Like, you wouldn't say, hey, ISIS, they're a terrorist organization, we should restrict their purchases of AR-15s for ISIS members between 18 and 20, right?

01:06:32.980 Like, you would say we need to attack, we need to do something much more dramatic than that, right?

01:06:37.260 Because in reality, what that is, is a rhetorical device.

01:06:42.340 They're saying it's a terrorist organization, and there are dopes on Twitter who believe it, but in reality, the left doesn't actually believe the NRA is a terrorist organization.

01:06:50.420 They may, they really want power of guns, right?

01:06:53.620 And they think this is a way to make that happen.

01:06:56.020 And so he's exploring, Kevin, I think, is saying, like, do we actually believe this?

01:07:01.600 And that's a tough conversation.

01:07:03.140 It's a conversation not, and I believe, as Kevin has said since, it's not really a great conversation to have on Twitter, right?

01:07:10.800 It's not the best venue for that type of conversation.

01:07:14.420 And it's interesting to kind of look at that and say, and take a step back and say, what do we accept?

01:07:22.400 Because when you're looking to really challenge someone, we can all sit here and say the same basic arguments over and over and over again.

01:07:31.300 How long have we been talking about this?

01:07:32.980 We've been talking about this, Glenn, going back probably since the formation of this program to a lot of talk radio has the same conversations over and over and over again.

01:07:42.820 You need to do what? You need to do different things.

01:07:45.740 We've talked about this intellectual dark web over the past few months, which has stepped into areas, I think, that are really uncomfortable for polite discourse.

01:07:58.580 Now, it's not to say that you're throwing bombs or insulting people.

01:08:02.100 No, you have intelligent.

01:08:03.660 Yeah, into uncomfortable areas.

01:08:05.960 That is something we should all be cheering on as a society because, you know what, we might go into an uncomfortable area and say, you know what, I'm glad that's uncomfortable.

01:08:15.560 We should keep that uncomfortable because that doesn't work for me.

01:08:19.360 That's not a good place for us to go.

01:08:21.140 But to act as if you can't have those conversations is ridiculous.

01:08:26.500 If you can't have those conversations, how do you advance?

01:08:29.580 How do you challenge a long-held belief?

01:08:33.080 You know, for a while, a long-held belief was black people should be slaves, okay?

01:08:38.780 And it was really uncomfortable for people like Benjamin Franklin to have the conversation, you know what, I don't think black people should be slaves.

01:08:47.040 It was a thing that had happened for how many years?

01:08:50.500 You know, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, all of history, basically, people had slaves.

01:08:55.080 It was not a questioned part of society, largely.

01:08:59.160 But people like Franklin and many others took that uncomfortable step to say, hey, maybe we're the worst people on earth for doing this.

01:09:06.860 So there's an interesting piece of history.

01:09:09.720 Sam Houston, the governor of Texas, he was a senator of Texas first.

01:09:16.080 He was actually kicked out of the out of the Senate.

01:09:20.500 He and Davy Crockett and a lot of them because he disagreed with slavery.

01:09:26.200 Sam Houston, you know, evil, racist Texas, Sam Houston.

01:09:30.380 Sam Houston was on the floor of the Senate and they were arguing that that preachers have no place in politics.

01:09:40.640 The Democrats, the Democrats, the Southern Democrats, they have no place in politics.

01:09:46.600 Their voice is in the church.

01:09:49.020 There is a separation of church and state.

01:09:52.000 And that's when Charles Sumner got up about 1857 and he got up and he said, let me address this.

01:09:59.800 And Sam Houston got up and said, Charles, sit down.

01:10:04.660 I got this one and he gave one of the most rip roaring speeches about freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion and freedom of thought.

01:10:17.800 Here's two Southern senators standing up and saying, no, I think you misunderstand just because you're a preacher doesn't mean you lose your right to free thought, free expression, freedom of your own voice.

01:10:38.500 Nobody ever loses that.

01:10:40.640 Now, the left will say today that, well, no, nobody's going to jail.

01:10:46.520 No, no, no, no.

01:10:47.600 No, what were they doing?

01:10:48.780 They were trying to silence people.

01:10:51.960 Whenever you are with someone and they say, you know what?

01:10:55.920 We need to silence that person.

01:10:57.400 You're in the wrong crowd.

01:10:59.280 I don't care what side they're on.

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01:13:22.300 Glenn Beck Mercury.

01:13:33.420 You know, we're just talking about Roseanne and what she said about giving bankers the guillotine that got rich on Wall Street.

01:13:45.920 She was serious about that.

01:13:47.240 She was rewarded with an ABC show.

01:13:49.140 But she's also a massive conspiracy theorist.

01:13:53.300 Yeah.

01:13:53.460 She holds on to the ABC show, despite very recently, because the clip we played, I think, was from 2011.

01:13:59.000 This is very recently talked about her support for Donald Trump.

01:14:03.120 And you might say, well, that's great.

01:14:04.740 I mean, you know, he had passed that tax plan.

01:14:07.000 That's not why she's supporting Donald Trump.

01:14:08.420 She's supporting Donald Trump because of her belief in a bunch, a series of very strange conspiracy theories that she believes Donald Trump is involved in, which Donald Trump does not say he's involved in it at all.

01:14:20.160 If I'm not mistaken, she's back to the pizza.

01:14:25.040 It's basically Pizzagate.

01:14:26.920 They barely even remixed the conspiracy theory.

01:14:29.320 It's just not Pizzagate.

01:14:30.460 It's another place.

01:14:31.280 Yeah.

01:14:31.500 It's called the storm.

01:14:34.460 The conspiracy theory is called the storm.

01:14:36.760 It was born on 4chan.

01:14:38.520 We should go through some of the details of it.

01:14:40.320 Because it's crazy.

01:14:41.560 She is not a stable individual.

01:14:44.720 No.

01:14:45.500 And she's fine.

01:14:47.700 ABC.

01:14:48.380 I mean, imagine giving Alex Jones an ABC show.

01:14:52.860 Great point.

01:14:53.500 They don't even want him to be interviewed by Megyn Kelly.

01:14:55.940 Right.

01:14:56.500 No interviews done.

01:14:58.000 They'll put her on ABC.

01:15:01.120 Glenn.

01:15:01.980 Back.

01:15:03.040 Mercury.

01:15:06.760 On Tuesday, this program reported that the Nazarene Fund is trying to help a group of persecuted Iranian Christian refugees.

01:15:23.440 These people, known in the media as the Lautenberg Christians, were waiting for their final permission to emigrate to the United States.

01:15:30.840 But then they were denied visas at the last minute by the U.S. government.

01:15:34.880 We don't know why.

01:15:36.600 The group fled from Iran and traveled to Austria as part of an official U.S. program that specifically helped persecuted Iranian Christians.

01:15:45.600 There were also Jews and Zoonostrians and other religious minorities that were looking to escape the repressive Iranian regime.

01:15:54.160 These people sold all of their possessions.

01:15:58.180 They traveled to Austria.

01:15:59.920 Remember, on a U.S. government program.

01:16:02.120 Not illegally.

01:16:03.440 They went through the security screening processes.

01:16:06.220 They were approved to come to the U.S.

01:16:08.040 They were expecting to do it this month.

01:16:10.120 And then, for some reason, the U.S. government, the same group that promised them safety and told them,

01:16:17.060 Leave, and we'll get you to America, the same country that promised them this, now is telling them,

01:16:26.000 No, uh-uh, you can't come.

01:16:27.940 So now they have no place to go.

01:16:29.760 The Austrian government is threatening to deport them back to Iran.

01:16:32.580 If that happens, these people left because of their faith.

01:16:36.580 These people are certain for persecution, imprisonment, work camps, and possibly death.

01:16:43.540 This is especially true, not just because of their religion, but now they have also been in extended contact with the U.S. government.

01:16:54.820 Of course, they're all spies now.

01:16:58.160 It is reported that they are destitute, not able to take care of their basic needs in Austria.

01:17:03.260 There are several elderly and disabled people in the group.

01:17:06.280 This is an unmitigated disaster by our making.

01:17:13.540 We have an update now from the reporter who actually broke this story.

01:17:19.580 She is Mindy Beltz.

01:17:20.920 She is the senior editor of World Magazine, author of the book, They Say We're Infidels.

01:17:25.500 Welcome, Mindy.

01:17:26.020 How are you?

01:17:28.240 Hi, Glenn.

01:17:28.920 Thank you for having me.

01:17:30.860 So, first of all, let's start with the Lautenberg Christians.

01:17:34.760 What does that mean?

01:17:35.480 Why are they called that?

01:17:36.240 The Lautenberg Amendment was passed by Congress during the Cold War era to grant asylum to special categories of people who are just historically, in an ongoing way, persecuted.

01:17:49.220 At that time, it applied to Jews, for instance, coming out of the former Soviet Union.

01:17:54.680 In 2003, Congress amended that to include non-Muslim religious minorities coming out of Iran.

01:18:07.020 We know that Tehran, the Islamic Republic, is a government that is founded on religious oppression principles.

01:18:16.560 And so, Congress extended this protection to those who qualified under the Lautenberg Amendment.

01:18:27.700 Interestingly enough, Vice President Mike Pence voted for that amendment in 2003.

01:18:33.800 And we've been granting, you know, select groups of non-Muslims coming from Iran asylum in the United States ever since.

01:18:42.380 Okay.

01:18:42.520 So, who are these people?

01:18:46.480 Well, interestingly enough, I've talked to several of them and their families, a number of them have families already in the United States who are U.S. citizens.

01:18:56.020 They are wage earners who gave up jobs in Tehran and other cities in Iran once they realized they qualified under the program and had been given some indication they could leave and be given asylum in the United States.

01:19:10.980 Hang on just a second.

01:19:11.920 Hang on just a second.

01:19:13.720 I want to clear that up.

01:19:15.000 It wasn't they were given some indication.

01:19:17.320 I've seen the paperwork.

01:19:19.200 They were accepted into this program by the United States.

01:19:24.440 Right.

01:19:24.880 I'm looking at one of them now given to me by one of the applicants.

01:19:28.760 It actually, they were sent, it says across the top, notice of eligibility for resettlement.

01:19:35.320 It's stamped with the Department of Homeland Security insignia and the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services granted them eligibility to apply for resettlement.

01:19:49.240 And it was on that basis that Austria extended them visas to come to Austria.

01:19:56.160 Austria, under a cooperative agreement with our State Department and our embassy in Vienna, acts in effect as a staging ground so that they can come to Vienna.

01:20:07.880 They begin their resettlement process.

01:20:10.180 They complete their security clearance process.

01:20:12.800 That, too, begins before they come.

01:20:15.600 But they complete it in Vienna.

01:20:17.480 And then they are processed, as other refugees are, for admission to the United States.

01:20:21.880 How often, Mindy, is it that somebody is granted this and then it's revoked?

01:20:28.760 Up until this particular group of about 100 that we're talking about, almost never.

01:20:35.320 I was told 98% of the time, once they reach Austria, they have already gone through the legal and security hurdles and are deemed qualified by the U.S. government to come to Austria, thereby to come to the United States.

01:20:52.300 Is there any reasonable explanation on why this is happening?

01:21:01.520 There are explanations.

01:21:03.140 You and I could debate whether they're reasonable or not.

01:21:06.720 But there has been just really a chasm of kind of a black hole on this whole thing that we've been asking questions now for a couple of months.

01:21:18.020 A number of other people have been asking, too.

01:21:20.860 Members of Congress wrote letters in February on this and have not received answers back.

01:21:27.780 We've had some statements from the State Department.

01:21:30.200 The State Department told us this has to do with the previous administration's security clearance hurdles.

01:21:39.380 We've been told that they failed security clearances.

01:21:42.000 But it's hard to imagine that.

01:21:43.440 You know, you mentioned...

01:21:44.600 All 100?

01:21:45.500 It's hard.

01:21:46.360 All 100, exactly.

01:21:48.200 And you mentioned that some of them are disabled.

01:21:50.520 I mean, I know that there is at least one elderly couple in this group, and one of those family members is in a wheelchair.

01:22:00.580 So it's just it's not credible that they pose a security threat.

01:22:04.700 And the limbo that they've been left in is also what's questionable.

01:22:07.880 If they did pose a security threat, you would expect the Austrian government to be deporting them back to Iran by now.

01:22:15.500 That's not happening, even though they've been threatened with that.

01:22:18.480 And they've actually...

01:22:19.440 Some of them have had their apartments raided by Austrian police and have been asked to turn over passports and documents.

01:22:26.360 So they are being asked to live in really a kind of intolerable limbo, and we are not getting answers to what the U.S. government's position on this is.

01:22:39.400 So Mike Pence is a reasonable man and a good man.

01:22:42.920 What does he say about this?

01:22:44.520 Have you had the chance to talk to Mike?

01:22:48.100 No, and to my knowledge, because the members of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission and the House of Representatives,

01:22:55.240 they sent a letter dated January 29th to vice president.

01:22:59.660 And, you know, in it, they reminded him, I mean, the vice president has been an outspoken advocate for persecuted Christians.

01:23:07.820 He said their plights have stirred Americans to act.

01:23:13.400 And yet there's been no response from his office to the Tom Lantos Commission.

01:23:20.900 And I'm not aware of him taking an active role despite being asked to.

01:23:27.400 So what can the average person do and what can we do at Mercury One?

01:23:31.000 Well, you know, it seems to me that this is the sort of thing that ought to be.

01:23:39.220 Congress at least deserves to have an answer on what's going on.

01:23:43.340 They need to have an intelligence briefing.

01:23:46.040 If we're talking about national security issues here, then it seems to me a closed door briefing on what's going on with these cases.

01:23:52.740 There need to be answers given to Congress, given to the American public on whether our immigration laws.

01:24:00.060 I mean, this is a provision of our immigration and refugee laws that is not come under the current Trump administration travel bans.

01:24:10.880 They need to be told why our government is not processing refugees and immigrants in a lawful way if they are applying under the law.

01:24:21.620 And everything that I've learned about these cases indicates to me that up until, you know, just a few months ago, everything was proceeding according to law.

01:24:33.620 So now it seems to me that the State Department, Department of Homeland Security and the vice president, because he's been asked about these specific cases, need to need to be open and say, here are the concerns that we have.

01:24:48.560 And then they need to resolve these cases for the benefit of these families from a strict humanitarian standpoint.

01:24:55.200 These families need to know if they are going to be able to live somewhere in safety, if they're going to be forced to go back to Iran, which, as you pointed out, would be disastrous.

01:25:07.260 Tell me, tell me.

01:25:08.120 Or what?

01:25:09.220 Tell me, Mindy, what happens to them if they do go back?

01:25:14.180 I mean, excuse me, they have, excuse me.

01:25:18.740 They have been, they've taken a stand on religion, which is not going to go over well in the first place.

01:25:30.760 But then they went to the Americans and they have had contact with the Americans, which never goes well.

01:25:38.120 What happens to these people, do you suppose, if they go back?

01:25:41.340 I think it's clear that it won't be good.

01:25:48.540 I mean, we can look at, I mean, three Iranian pastors were sentenced to given lengthy jail sentences in this past December.

01:25:58.240 There are dozens of Iranian Christians who are in jail now.

01:26:01.720 Plus, you have this destabilized situation where you continue to have demonstrations in Tehran and other cities, and people are arrested almost every night there.

01:26:11.340 So, as you point out, these people not only fall against, you know, have a strike against them because they are non-Muslim religious minorities.

01:26:21.300 The second strike they have against them is that by taking the steps they have, they clearly oppose their government.

01:26:27.060 They don't believe they're safe under their own government.

01:26:30.300 And they would be going back at a time when this government is taking people off the streets and putting them in jail.

01:26:36.560 Why would they not just immediately jail these people?

01:26:40.300 Why would they not be denied?

01:26:42.200 They've sold their property.

01:26:43.560 They've given up their jobs.

01:26:44.760 What do they have to go back to?

01:26:46.720 Mindy Beltz, the author of They Say We Are Infidels.

01:26:49.580 She also has, she's the senior editor of World Magazine, and she's the one who's broken this story.

01:26:54.960 And please stay in touch with us, Mindy, and we'll continue to follow the story.

01:26:58.740 Appreciate it.

01:27:00.220 Will do.

01:27:00.860 Thank you.

01:27:01.280 By the way, if you want to get involved, please support the Nazarene Fund.

01:27:08.840 You can go to the nazarenefund.org.

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01:27:16.440 Let me go to Christina in California.

01:27:20.060 Hello, Christina.

01:27:20.660 I just wanted to get the word out, give encouragement to people, to give to Mercury One and the Nazarene Fund.

01:27:29.920 My husband and I gave last year, we got a Christmas card with a precious picture of one of the rescued trafficking victims.

01:27:38.040 You know, there's no greater seed that can be sown.

01:27:42.300 It will not return void.

01:27:43.860 Whether you're religious or non-religious, political or apolitical, give to Mercury One.

01:27:49.860 Well, Christina, thank you so much.

01:27:51.940 Where in California do you live?

01:27:53.940 I live in Fresno, the Central Valley.

01:27:56.260 I'm a conservative.

01:27:57.420 I watch the PGA.

01:27:59.020 I'm a unicorn.

01:28:00.140 You're talking to a real life unicorn.

01:28:02.560 Well, good luck with the mudslides and the rains and the fires and the earthquakes that are coming your way.

01:28:07.800 I read about them this morning, and so you've got nothing to worry about.

01:28:10.920 You're in California, so you're in safe hands.

01:28:13.460 God bless you.

01:28:13.760 I'm landlocked.

01:28:14.800 So what we're doing, we're being starved of agricultural water by our state legislature.

01:28:19.700 You know, that crazy Governor Brown.

01:28:22.000 So that's what I'm dealing with.

01:28:23.480 It's crazy.

01:28:24.300 It is really, truly crazy.

01:28:25.660 Christina, thank you so much, and God bless.

01:28:27.180 And thank you.

01:28:27.800 So thank you for giving to the Mercury One and the Nazarene Fund.

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01:30:12.400 Glenn Beck Mercury.

01:30:20.620 Glenn Beck.

01:30:23.840 Welcome to the program.

01:30:25.040 A Kansas woman, suspicious that someone had broken into her home, called police.

01:30:34.400 The Salina Journal reports a 23-year-old woman called police at her home Thursday after finding her front door was chained from the inside.

01:30:44.560 Police say they went to the house, they searched the house, and could find no intruder.

01:30:49.560 They were baffled.

01:30:50.500 How did someone lock the chain of the door without anybody being inside?

01:30:58.560 Well, two hours later, the woman and her current boyfriend heard a loud noise.

01:31:05.560 They rushed out into the living room and looked up, and they saw two legs hanging out of the living room ceiling.

01:31:13.800 Apparently, the woman's 25-year-old former boyfriend had fallen through partially through the living room ceiling.

01:31:24.160 He was hiding in the attic.

01:31:28.060 Police say the current boyfriend then pulled the old boyfriend, pulled on his legs, and pulled him the rest of the way through the ceiling, and they began fighting.

01:31:38.800 Burgkamp, the guy in the ceiling, faces several charges, including aggravated burglary and criminal threat.

01:31:47.980 We used to encourage persistence in this country, and now look where we are.

01:31:51.420 Right?

01:31:52.240 I mean, guy obviously just really cares.

01:31:55.840 Really dedicated to that ex.

01:31:58.580 24-year-old Virginia woman, allegedly driving drunk in New Jersey over the weekend, smashed into two parked cars.

01:32:05.180 She said to her friend, I'm too drunk to drive.

01:32:07.280 Her friend said, okay, well, I can drive.

01:32:11.540 So they switched places.

01:32:17.380 Her friend went behind the wheel, and they smashed into two more cars before police came.

01:32:26.120 They allegedly told the cops they were trying to figure out who was less drunk to drive the car.

01:32:33.000 Neither of them really were less drunk.

01:32:35.420 They were way over the legal limit.

01:32:37.280 Uh, and, uh, they had banged up the, uh, SUV that they were driving in that they, uh, they couldn't drive it anymore.

01:32:45.040 And, uh, cops had a hard time getting them out.

01:32:48.200 So.

01:32:48.340 It's surprising you don't get points for being less drunk.

01:32:50.440 No.

01:32:50.980 If you're drunk.

01:32:52.260 Which, Stu, which one of us is less drunk?

01:32:55.380 If there was a warning label, do not operate heavy machinery when you are drunk, which one of us would that label be talking?

01:33:05.780 Apparently, in this case, both.

01:33:09.080 Yes.

01:33:10.440 On the weekend that Chappaquiddick comes out in theaters, it's probably, probably, maybe a reminder that, uh, driving while impaired may not be the best idea.

01:33:20.580 Might have been a good thing to have him ask that question.

01:33:24.540 Which one of us is the last drunk?

01:33:25.920 Well, I'm not drunk, but you are.

01:33:29.840 Might have been a good question for him to ask.

01:33:33.460 I would, I would say, given the circumstances that we now know.

01:33:36.840 Are you going to go see Chappaquiddick?

01:33:38.060 Yeah, definitely.

01:33:39.020 I'm really, I'm really excited to see it.

01:33:41.080 Have you seen Ready Player One?

01:33:42.880 No.

01:33:43.640 You don't want to?

01:33:44.220 I mean, I would see it.

01:33:46.580 I saw a runtime of, what, 238?

01:33:49.140 And I was like, eh, you're stretching it there.

01:33:51.900 I really want to see it, but I, I, I read the book.

01:33:54.340 And it's one of the best books I've ever read.

01:33:56.140 I mean, I started reading it, and I said, everybody, everybody, come into the room.

01:33:59.900 And my whole family came in, and they don't, I mean, you know, some people will say to me, oh, I wish, oh, man, I wish I could hear you read that book.

01:34:08.060 No.

01:34:08.520 If you're in my family, nobody wants to hear that, okay?

01:34:11.180 Nobody wants to hear the old-timey stories.

01:34:13.060 They don't want to hear the, you know, history.

01:34:15.400 They don't want to hear it.

01:34:16.360 You could have paid lots of money over your career to read, to read material like that in an entertaining fashion, but your family doesn't?

01:34:21.420 My family is like, shut up, okay?

01:34:24.020 Just shut up.

01:34:25.140 So anyway, so.

01:34:26.160 And they know you best.

01:34:27.020 And they know me best.

01:34:28.140 So, so anyway, so I said, everybody, come here.

01:34:31.960 And I read a chapter.

01:34:33.280 We ended up reading the entire book over like a four-day period.

01:34:37.300 I mean, we were just, we were all on vacation, and I just read it out loud, and it is a great book.

01:34:42.440 And we read it when it came out, and we were like, this is going to be the greatest movie ever.

01:34:47.540 But we discussed, you'd never be able to make it because it would be way too expensive just in the rights alone.

01:34:54.300 Because it's all pop culture.

01:34:56.380 And it's amazing.

01:34:57.460 When we heard that Steven Spielberg had secured the rights, we're like, he's the only guy that could do it right.

01:35:03.980 Eh.

01:35:04.840 I've heard really good things about it.

01:35:06.380 Are you seeing negative things?

01:35:06.800 I've heard that if you've read the book, you're really not going to like it.

01:35:11.520 If you haven't read the book, you're going to love it.

01:35:14.460 But, I mean, I read Harry Potter, and I still like the Harry Potter, and the book was better.

01:35:19.500 But you still like the movie.

01:35:20.280 I still like the movie.

01:35:31.500 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:35:34.360 Let's talk a little bit about this trade war that's going on.

01:35:37.700 Larry Kudlow says it's not a trade war, but, Larry, it is a trade war.

01:35:43.500 You know, hopefully it is just a negotiating point.

01:35:46.020 It will go away soon.

01:35:46.800 But Dow is down another 400 points today, and that is because Donald Trump doubled down and said,

01:35:54.380 we're going to do $100 billion on tariffs on China because we didn't like your response.

01:36:01.760 Well, China is now expected to respond, and they are looking at things that actually, I mean, let me put it this way.

01:36:10.460 Donald Trump just went after the oligarchs.

01:36:12.940 Why did he do that, Stu?

01:36:14.200 Why did he pick that group?

01:36:17.860 They're very tied into the Kremlin.

01:36:20.680 They're tied into Putin.

01:36:21.880 They're very important for Russia's economy.

01:36:23.900 They're his support team, right?

01:36:25.160 Yeah.

01:36:25.420 Okay.

01:36:26.360 Who is Trump's support team?

01:36:28.500 The center of the country.

01:36:30.620 Who do you think China is going to hit?

01:36:33.240 China is going to hit the center of the country, and they are going to hit the poorest and the farmers.

01:36:40.000 That's who they're going to hit.

01:36:41.360 This is going to hurt bad.

01:36:43.980 And it can get much worse than that if, you know, they've got, what, a trillion dollars, two trillion, trillion and a half, something like that in treasuries?

01:36:51.220 And something we never even think of.

01:36:53.540 They refine almost all the world's supply of precious metals.

01:36:57.920 The precious metal that goes into cell phones and computers and high-tech weaponry.

01:37:02.420 If they were to withhold exporting that to us, that would cripple us for years until we could catch up again.

01:37:08.940 Here's the deal.

01:37:09.760 We have all of that.

01:37:10.980 We do.

01:37:11.320 We just don't do anything with it.

01:37:12.440 We've banned the exploration and mining of all of that precious metal because it's up in Alaska, and God forbid we hurt the elk.

01:37:21.860 And so we don't have access to it.

01:37:24.500 So we've left it all to China.

01:37:25.880 Yeah, it'll take us a decade to get it.

01:37:28.580 So short-sighted.

01:37:29.800 Just, we've made some unbelievably stupid decisions over the years.

01:37:33.240 I don't even understand it.

01:37:35.020 Except for the fact that they're pandering to the environmentalists.

01:37:38.460 You can do all that stuff safely anyway without really disrupting moose mating habits much at all.

01:37:44.700 Right.

01:37:45.220 You can play a little Barry Manilow, put him back in the mood.

01:37:47.540 Yeah.

01:37:47.680 We know the mining probably puts you off your mood, but here's some Manilow for you.

01:37:52.480 Let's put giant speakers out there in the wilderness.

01:37:54.260 I think the mining too, it warms the area around there.

01:37:58.020 So maybe it would actually get him more in the mood.

01:37:59.900 Right.

01:38:00.060 Maybe we'd be overrun by elk.

01:38:02.000 Global warming.

01:38:02.720 Listen to these two extremists.

01:38:04.900 So this is really...

01:38:06.540 It could be really bad.

01:38:07.440 This could be really bad.

01:38:08.640 This is though, we should put it in perspective in that this is a campaign promise kept by Donald Trump.

01:38:13.380 I mean, this is not something he hid and came up with later.

01:38:15.620 This is explicitly what he ran on.

01:38:17.620 And he said just yesterday the truth, which is there's going to be a lot of economic pain.

01:38:24.260 Well, these policies...

01:38:25.740 But we'll get stronger because of it.

01:38:26.680 But it's worth it.

01:38:27.620 You know, he say, you know, if you're a farmer and, you know, look, the first of the $50 billion

01:38:31.820 that he put on tariffs, which is, again, we should be clear, a $50 billion tax increase

01:38:36.660 on the American consumer.

01:38:38.160 Okay.

01:38:38.500 That's what a tariff is.

01:38:39.660 It's a tax increase on the American consumer to try to punish some other source.

01:38:44.540 But that's who winds up paying it is us.

01:38:46.060 So that $50 billion tax increase...

01:38:48.540 And especially the poor.

01:38:50.460 Yeah, exactly.

01:38:51.240 Especially the poor.

01:38:52.220 The $50 billion tax increase has been projected to cost America 190,000 jobs.

01:38:58.780 Now, an extra $100 billion on top of that, I mean, it probably won't be exactly double,

01:39:03.900 but probably another three or 400,000 jobs will be hurt because of that.

01:39:07.560 And again, Trump has been clear with this and consistent the entire time.

01:39:11.060 Yes, we will do this.

01:39:12.000 He said yesterday, we had a lot of stock market gains.

01:39:14.360 We're going to have to give some of those back.

01:39:17.060 This is a policy that everyone on earth knows is bad for an economy.

01:39:21.180 But he's saying, you're going to pay for that now.

01:39:25.480 We're going to take some hits in the economy now.

01:39:28.960 But over the long term, we'll be stronger.

01:39:31.300 He's promised it from the beginning.

01:39:32.720 I mean, there's not a lot of evidence to support it in history,

01:39:35.700 but it's something he promised.

01:39:37.380 And he won the election partially based on that platform.

01:39:40.420 So I think his supporters, many of his supporters will support him through this until they start feeling the pain.

01:39:47.120 Once they start feeling the pain, he's going to need to ratchet up the it's the Chinese, it's the Chinese, it's the Chinese.

01:39:52.940 And this is why trade wars lead to actual wars.

01:39:55.920 We saw it a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

01:40:01.420 This occurred.

01:40:02.620 It started with a trade war.

01:40:04.320 And people were like, oh, it's just a bunch of boring people around the Senate.

01:40:07.060 These prequels suck.

01:40:08.320 That was a series of documentaries.

01:40:10.760 Yes.

01:40:11.960 Focused on what a trade war.

01:40:13.760 Guys, that was Star Wars.

01:40:14.580 It was a movie.

01:40:15.800 It was a documentary film.

01:40:17.040 I would call it a documentary film.

01:40:18.920 It was a series of very bad movies.

01:40:21.460 Very bad.

01:40:22.120 Eventually, people start taking, you know, they build Death Stars.

01:40:26.100 That's what happens at the end.

01:40:27.760 That's what happens.

01:40:29.020 Have you also, we haven't gone through the Roseanne conspiracy theories yet.

01:40:33.460 Have you heard these, Pat?

01:40:35.500 No.

01:40:36.280 Yeah.

01:40:36.480 So Roseanne is, Roseanne is strangely Donald Trump, for Donald Trump, because I think, you

01:40:47.440 know, well, she's crazy, but I thought she was connecting with the average person in

01:40:54.080 the center of the country who is feeling pain.

01:40:56.380 And so that's what she was reflecting on the show.

01:40:58.460 I'm not so sure that's what's happening because she is, she believes this really weird, almost

01:41:06.720 pizza gate times two conspiracy theory that she says that Donald Trump is, is arresting

01:41:15.340 Democrats who are in a, in a sex ring, a childhood sex slave ring, and he's taking care of that.

01:41:24.500 Now, she believes this?

01:41:26.000 Well, it's not 100% confirmed.

01:41:28.300 So she, she tweeted, people were like, why are you, you know, she was, she ran as a communist

01:41:33.880 for president of the United States, a socialist party called the Peace and Freedom Party in

01:41:37.860 2012.

01:41:38.620 It's the clip that we played twice today, which is Roseanne saying in an interview for

01:41:44.280 her campaign, she said, I, we should, uh, lop the heads off of bankers who break rules.

01:41:50.980 Uh, she's a socialist.

01:41:52.960 So why the heck does she support Donald Trump?

01:41:55.880 Yeah.

01:41:56.220 Or communist.

01:41:56.780 Yeah.

01:41:57.280 Um, why does she support Donald Trump?

01:41:59.260 Well, it's not because she's well, it really a conservative at heart.

01:42:02.340 Um, she says, president Trump has freed so many children held in bondage to pimps all

01:42:07.600 over this world, hundreds each month.

01:42:09.360 He's broken up trafficking rings at high places everywhere.

01:42:12.740 Notice that I disagree on some things, but give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

01:42:16.460 So, so people don't.

01:42:18.700 Actually, this company has actually had a hand in that.

01:42:20.940 I don't think Donald Trump has raised a finger to do any of that.

01:42:24.240 It would be great.

01:42:24.780 Honestly, we just talked about a real case where he can help, um, with, uh, and this isn't

01:42:29.180 quite a hundred Christian refugees, Nazarene fund related.

01:42:33.240 And it would be great if Pence or Trump could step up to help this because they can actually

01:42:36.980 do something about that.

01:42:38.200 So this is a situation where, uh, she kind of later tried to say, no, no, I'm not saying

01:42:43.620 conspiracy.

01:42:43.900 She posted that he named it national child abuse, abuse prevention month.

01:42:48.380 That's what she was referring to.

01:42:50.620 However, her past shows a strong proclivity to conspiracy theories.

01:42:55.480 Also, she has mentioned to the person who has launched this conspiracy theory months

01:43:00.180 and months ago on Twitter, asking who he was and asking for a direct message from this

01:43:04.460 person.

01:43:05.040 So the way this started on 4chan, the, uh, message board, which most conspiracy theories

01:43:10.400 seem to start these days.

01:43:12.080 Um, and it's also sort of a place where people troll each other and prank each other.

01:43:16.620 So no one knows when things are serious and when they're not.

01:43:20.100 And what's funny is that people make jokes on 4chan that went up to being turned into

01:43:24.300 serious conspiracy theories later, which is a really weird sort of, this sounds like

01:43:29.040 a fun weekend hobby for me.

01:43:31.640 Oh gosh, it's amazing.

01:43:34.640 Just to go there.

01:43:35.300 Hey Pat, let's get on 4chan.

01:43:38.900 Um, so they have this political, a politically incorrect message board, which was where this

01:43:43.080 started.

01:43:43.620 Um, one specific user user goes by the name Q, uh, Q clearance Patriot or Q Anon.

01:43:50.100 A lot of people are anonymous on this site.

01:43:52.340 Um, basically Trump made a speech and which he mentioned the calm before the storm.

01:43:56.260 It was a minor blurb for a couple of days where people are like, what the heck is the

01:44:00.260 storm?

01:44:00.660 Even like legitimate journalists are like, what are you even talking about?

01:44:03.600 Well, because it was never answered, people started filling in the blanks with a conspiracy

01:44:08.520 theory.

01:44:08.900 The storm being, um, that is a massive arrest of Democrats involved in a satanic child sex

01:44:14.860 traffic.

01:44:15.180 And like, obviously it's the first thing you're going to go to.

01:44:17.020 It seems like every, this is, it's basically pizza gate without the pizza.

01:44:21.660 Wow.

01:44:22.220 So Roseanne has mentioned, uh, the particular person who came up with this, which there's

01:44:27.480 no evidence to, to believe that this person is tied into anything.

01:44:30.940 He's, he's, uh, or he or she has come out and said, uh, John Podesta was going to be

01:44:37.140 arrested on November 3rd.

01:44:39.280 Now you guys remember that arrest by any chance?

01:44:42.060 No, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to get my arms around your denial that the Democrats

01:44:46.680 are in a satanic, uh, death cult that, uh, is selling children into sex labor.

01:44:52.520 Doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence, uh, supporting this as we've seen already.

01:44:55.560 I mean, this is all pizza gate has already gone through its cycle of being something and

01:44:59.820 then being discredited and now going away.

01:45:01.600 And Alex Jones, who promulgated that theory actually was sued for it and had to make an

01:45:08.580 on-air apology about it.

01:45:10.340 Like that's how bad this has gone.

01:45:11.660 Even Alex Jones has abandoned this theory, right?

01:45:14.220 But no.

01:45:14.820 Had to, cause there was nothing to it.

01:45:16.100 They, they actually went to, I think it's called, was it ping pong pizza?

01:45:19.880 Yeah.

01:45:20.100 Something, yeah.

01:45:20.420 Comet ping pong pizza.

01:45:22.500 And there's no basement there.

01:45:24.300 So it's hard to run a basement sex slave trade when you don't have a basement.

01:45:28.000 I mean, if you're building a conspiracy theory, pick a building with a basement, please.

01:45:31.600 Guys, I can't believe how stupid you are.

01:45:33.960 Oh, we are?

01:45:34.380 Yeah.

01:45:34.640 You, do you remember the bat poll?

01:45:37.000 I do.

01:45:37.840 Yeah.

01:45:38.080 Yeah.

01:45:38.220 That wasn't just out in the open.

01:45:39.880 That's true.

01:45:40.340 You had to know, you have to take Shakespeare's head, open it up, push the button.

01:45:43.640 Then that wall opens.

01:45:44.860 Then it opens.

01:45:45.520 Another interesting part of this is part of the conspiracy theory appears to be that

01:45:52.220 Mueller is a good guy.

01:45:55.120 Now, most of the sort of pro-Trump media, if you want to go into the pro-Trump conspiracy

01:46:00.780 media, obviously thinks Mueller's a bad guy.

01:46:03.480 He's investigating Russia.

01:46:04.760 We don't want him to investigate Russia.

01:46:06.000 There's nothing there.

01:46:06.540 It's a hoax, right?

01:46:07.740 This is, Mueller is actually not investigating Trump and Russia.

01:46:12.540 He's actually investigating the child sex rings secretly.

01:46:16.460 So he's actually on the side of Trump as they're working to bust up these child sex

01:46:22.080 rings.

01:46:22.800 Boy, people have a lot of time on that.

01:46:24.460 How does this, how does, how does Roseanne, I mean, you know, we were talking about Kevin

01:46:29.320 Williamson today.

01:46:30.800 Kevin Williamson in a, in, in a piece of critical thinking said, do we believe this?

01:46:36.120 If you believe that abortion is murder, then we should execute those who are involved in

01:46:40.220 abortion.

01:46:40.580 Now, this is a, this is a political and, uh, and, uh, educational thought piece.

01:46:46.520 Okay.

01:46:46.980 Yeah.

01:46:47.600 Roseanne gets on television and she says in her campaign, I think we should execute those

01:46:53.640 that were involved in a wall street in 2008, behead them guillotines, and we'll give them

01:46:59.760 a chance at the reeducation camp first.

01:47:01.720 She's serious.

01:47:03.520 She believes in this stuff.

01:47:05.400 They won't even let Alex Jones, they don't want Megyn Kelly to even do an interview with

01:47:11.100 Meg, with, uh, with, uh, Alex Jones.

01:47:14.520 And yet they'll give Roseanne a TV show.

01:47:17.920 I mean, I don't even understand it.

01:47:19.740 I, the world makes no sense whatsoever.

01:47:23.020 Thus, I think those tunnels, there's two, I think those tunnels exist.

01:47:29.400 I think absolutely.

01:47:30.500 Yep.

01:47:31.160 I think all pizza, big pizza is involved in this, you know, whatever happened to the

01:47:35.920 Noid?

01:47:36.220 I think he's running this thing.

01:47:37.560 Did you notice that Domino's pizza doesn't do a 30 minute delivery anymore?

01:47:41.800 Hmm.

01:47:42.100 Did too much, too, too many sex slaves in their basement.

01:47:45.460 Apparently all run by the Noid.

01:47:47.300 They said avoid the Noid.

01:47:48.400 Why do you think he's bringing you to the tunnels beneath their stores?

01:47:51.280 Those, that's why you have to say, when you call them, you say, yeah, I would like it

01:47:54.880 delivered in 12 minutes.

01:47:58.180 Oh, no.

01:47:59.720 And that's, wow.

01:48:00.780 30's way too old.

01:48:01.700 Yeah.

01:48:02.200 Definitely not 18.

01:48:03.940 I want something under 18 minutes delivered.

01:48:08.700 Good God.

01:48:10.160 This is going to be unfortunate by the rest of the day.

01:48:12.140 It sure will be.

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01:49:10.460 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

01:49:19.180 Glenn Beck.

01:49:21.920 Stu, time for one story.

01:49:25.040 Choose your news.

01:49:25.940 All right.

01:49:27.560 New Yorkers repeatedly ticketed even though they don't have a car.

01:49:31.660 Headline number two, mother turns placenta into smoothie and serves it to kids who say

01:49:41.780 it's yummy.

01:49:45.620 That's just like, it's not even a, it's just like.

01:49:47.640 What is wrong with people?

01:49:48.960 What is wrong with people?

01:49:50.540 Placenta is like one of those words that's disgusting, even if you don't know what it

01:49:54.180 means.

01:49:55.700 There's just something about the sound of it that's gross.

01:49:58.740 Headline number three, New York has finally arrested the serial underwear stealer.

01:50:07.560 Wow.

01:50:08.080 Okay.

01:50:08.340 So let's go through these.

01:50:10.060 First of all, absolutely no chance.

01:50:12.900 Placenta wins it.

01:50:13.740 No, no, no.

01:50:14.340 Placenta is out.

01:50:15.440 No, no, no.

01:50:15.920 I do not want to hear about a placenta smoothie.

01:50:17.680 She said her kids, listen to this, she said her kids said that it was really good.

01:50:22.780 Um, uh, she said drinking the smoothie gives them, uh, energy better and deeper, deeper

01:50:30.700 sleep.

01:50:31.620 And she said her kids liked it because it had berries in it.

01:50:35.080 That's because they like berries, not because they like placenta.

01:50:38.840 Well, if you don't want to go to a placenta smoothie, that's fine.

01:50:41.700 Have I learned a lesson here to not rule a story out or you'll tell me about it?

01:50:44.960 Because that, uh, something I know there was much more to that story.

01:50:48.160 Okay, good.

01:50:48.520 And I'm glad I skipped it.

01:50:49.540 So then you have the people getting ticketed for nothing or the cereal underwear stealer.

01:50:54.880 There's a part of me that kind of wants to know how you're getting a ticket when you're

01:50:58.640 not a driver.

01:50:59.380 But I mean, how do you go against the cereal underwear stealer?

01:51:03.140 I want to know what this is about.

01:51:05.380 In his confession, he said he stole underwear because he felt urges on several, on several

01:51:14.700 occasions, he entered a home and opened the hampers and picked through it to find soiled

01:51:22.740 women's underwear.

01:51:25.120 It was taken into custody.

01:51:26.800 It happened around 9 a.m.

01:51:28.560 last Thursday.

01:51:30.160 Young woman in her house was alone.

01:51:32.560 Prosecutor, she was sleeping, but woke up when she heard the door open.

01:51:35.680 She called out, hello.

01:51:37.000 And that's when she saw the underwear thief in her home.

01:51:42.040 The underwear thief had been in her home several times.

01:51:46.600 She then locked the door and called 9-1-1.

01:51:50.100 The responding officers say that the underwear thief was at the door of another house in the

01:51:56.320 neighborhood, pretending to knock on the door.

01:51:59.440 They found several pairs of soiled women's panties on him.

01:52:03.120 Uh, and, uh, and here's the, here's the kicker of this.

01:52:08.220 He's a New York state judge and very well respected.

01:52:12.740 And his colleague said, we never expected this, but he's very good and everybody likes him.

01:52:17.960 So we're just going to have to watch and see how this plays out.

01:52:21.520 Wow.

01:52:22.120 It's like Chappaquiddick.

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The Glenn Beck Program - April 06, 2018

'Thought is Frightening' - 4⧸6⧸18

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