The Glenn Beck Program - 'Tiny, but Powerful'？ - 8⧸29⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.120 It's Pat, Stu, and Jeffy for Glenn this week.

00:00:13.240 We were just talking about Trump derangement syndrome.

00:00:17.820 And there's a couple of terms that circulate through the media all the time.

00:00:23.800 One of them is fake news.

00:00:25.660 The other is Trump derangement syndrome.

00:00:28.800 And they bug me, and I think they bother you to a certain extent, Stu, because it makes it, I don't know, it just makes it seem like everybody who says anything about the president has Trump derangements.

00:00:43.980 And that's not the case.

00:00:44.900 I mean, we don't have it, and we complain about some of the things he does.

00:00:48.640 Yeah, I mean, the test usually is whether you can find things that you like, right?

00:00:52.740 And we've gone through many, many things that we do like that the president has done.

00:00:57.340 But I will say...

00:00:59.660 Even his critics, though, I don't think are always affected with Trump derangement systems.

00:01:04.800 Like, if you're a liberal, right, and you see things like Neil Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, you may very well not like those on ideological grounds.

00:01:14.300 That doesn't mean you have Trump derangement syndrome.

00:01:16.580 That means you just don't like his picks, right?

00:01:18.420 There seems to be a different situation going on for some people, though.

00:01:21.660 Although, yeah, if there's any location that's infected with supposed Trump derangement syndrome, it's just about everybody at CNN, including Jeffrey Toobin.

00:01:34.680 I mean, he's a guy that once in a while makes sense, but not really when it comes to Trump.

00:01:40.400 Yeah, there's a sign of the, if you're going to make Trump derangement syndrome into something, there's a sign of it of, like, pulling every issue, no matter how separate from race and hatred, bring all of them to that. 0.98

00:01:57.880 No matter what it is, whether it's a Supreme Court pick, whether it's a tax decrease, whether it's talking about, you know, North Korea, whatever you can, bring it back to the idea that the reason he's doing X, Y, and Z is because he hates black people. 0.81

00:02:12.440 Like, it's just going to that same boring analysis, saying every single thing revolves around that one issue. 0.83

00:02:20.060 And it shows, of course, it reveals your obsession with that issue.

00:02:23.320 It reveals your obsession, not ours, but your obsession with skin color, with your obsession with, you know, reproductive organs, your obsession with that. 0.98

00:02:34.520 That's not something that we want to care about, but you're constantly bringing it up.

00:02:37.820 And this is a perfect example from yesterday with Jeffrey Toobin, when he was talking about the president saying how if Republicans lose in the midterms and the Democrats take control of the House, there's going to be violence in the streets.

00:02:54.880 And listen to the way Jeffrey Toobin spins that. 0.95

00:02:59.240 The theme here is, I'm Donald Trump, and I'll protect you from the scary black people. 1.00

00:03:05.020 So, Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization. 0.96

00:03:09.200 No, it's not.

00:03:09.500 And this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players.

00:03:18.560 This is about black versus white.

00:03:21.640 This is about Donald Trump's appeal to racism.

00:03:24.500 And it just happens all the time.

00:03:26.880 And we never say it or we don't say it enough for what it is.

00:03:30.060 Don't say it enough.

00:03:30.660 But that's what's going on.

00:03:31.540 That is amazing.

00:03:32.420 Okay, Antifa is widely considered just black people?

00:03:36.820 By whom?

00:03:37.940 By you, maybe?

00:03:39.200 Like you said, like we're just saying, Stu, that says more about him than it does Donald Trump.

00:03:44.920 A lot more. 0.97

00:03:45.920 I mean, that's racist.

00:03:47.720 Yeah.

00:03:48.180 Because nobody considers Antifa just black people.

00:03:52.860 I consider them anarchists. 0.98

00:03:55.800 I consider them hell-bent on chaos and communism. 0.87

00:03:58.580 I don't consider them black necessarily. 0.97

00:04:02.600 Yeah.

00:04:02.880 Yeah.

00:04:03.360 But even more than that, we've done a lot of coverage on this group.

00:04:07.700 We've, you know, we've done multiple, you know, Glenn's done the week-long chalkboard on them.

00:04:12.280 He's done multiple big monologues about them, their history, where they came from.

00:04:16.840 First of all, they did not come certainly from African-American roots in any way.

00:04:20.300 They came from, you know, it started back in World War II.

00:04:25.860 But beyond that, all the videos we've seen of Antifa, I'm not saying there's no black people.

00:04:31.860 They're usually not.

00:04:32.800 But I can't think of one picture in my brain of ever seeing a black person in Antifa.

00:04:37.240 Yeah, I can't either.

00:04:37.740 I mean, I'm sure they are.

00:04:38.820 I mean, just because of odds.

00:04:40.600 But I've never, I can't remember ever seeing one.

00:04:43.260 They're almost always like the person who you think you're going to bump into Starbucks the next day.

00:04:47.660 Some, like, you know, tortured, angsty, you know, 22-year-old who, you know,

00:04:53.380 who went to too many communist college courses and now thinks they're going to change the world by throwing things at people.

00:04:58.880 I don't think, I don't know that I've ever heard anyone make the point before.

00:05:02.520 Ever.

00:05:03.360 This is, like, the first time I've ever heard the point that black people are associated with Antifa in some way.

00:05:07.820 Me too.

00:05:08.200 They're just, I always think of it as like that, like, Seattle, Starbucks-y, you know, angst.

00:05:15.100 I don't think at all.

00:05:16.360 It's not a racial organization at all.

00:05:18.680 It started against fascism back in the day.

00:05:21.260 And you can make an argument when it started, it actually did good things. 0.79

00:05:24.020 But it's been evolved to, at this point, it's ridiculousness.

00:05:27.380 I mean, it's just anything that they don't like.

00:05:29.360 They're just anarchists now.

00:05:30.420 Yeah.

00:05:30.560 Yeah, they're just left-wing anarchists.

00:05:33.560 And it's agonizing to continually hear the nonsense that everything's about race.

00:05:41.640 And, you know, that just diminishes when things are about race.

00:05:46.260 When you make everything about race, you've just watered down the actual racism that does exist.

00:05:51.460 And we see from time to time.

00:05:52.680 Certainly not as much as CNN sees it, but I don't think I've ever heard Donald Trump even say anything about Antifa being groups of black people.

00:06:05.840 No.

00:06:05.920 I haven't heard anybody saying it, not just us.

00:06:09.680 Nobody claims that it's about blackness.

00:06:12.440 And this is what surprises me all the time.

00:06:14.300 Like, when you have these issues that pop up with race, it's the left has immersed themselves so completely in this issue.

00:06:25.860 And to them, it is like the ultimate equation that solves all math problems.

00:06:31.220 You know, it's just, I remember when Barack Obama was going and they talked about an apartment and they said that was racist.

00:06:36.980 It's like an apartment.

00:06:37.640 I lived in a lot of apartments.

00:06:39.140 There's a lot of white people that live in apartments.

00:06:41.060 Way more white people live in apartments nationwide than black people do. 0.97

00:06:44.360 I mean, it's just an absurd thing.

00:06:48.280 Chicago.

00:06:49.080 Yeah, Chicago. 0.98

00:06:49.760 Why is the dog whistle for black people? 0.97

00:06:51.360 Right. 0.96

00:06:51.620 And like, no.

00:06:52.380 What?

00:06:53.260 There's a lot of violence that goes on there.

00:06:56.180 Yeah.

00:06:56.820 Yeah.

00:06:57.340 Chicago. 0.99

00:06:58.000 That's code for black people. 1.00

00:07:00.100 It's an absurd instinct. 0.99

00:07:02.640 The word car. 0.99

00:07:03.540 That's code for black people. 1.00

00:07:05.320 Yeah. 0.99

00:07:05.460 Car.

00:07:05.760 Really?

00:07:06.480 The word the. 0.99

00:07:07.400 If you use the too much, it's code for black people. 1.00

00:07:10.940 You mean the black people. 0.98

00:07:12.360 That's what you mean when you say the word the.

00:07:14.840 What explains that motivation, though?

00:07:17.900 Racism.

00:07:18.340 I think it's racist.

00:07:19.760 I think that in and of itself is racist. 0.84

00:07:22.080 I think Jeffrey Toobin's a racist.

00:07:24.500 I'm just so tired of beating around the bush with these people on what they are and who they are.

00:07:30.280 I'm really kind of done with it.

00:07:33.060 When you see race everywhere, when that's all you think of. 0.71

00:07:37.340 Yeah.

00:07:37.680 Maybe you should turn that, you know, look in the mirror.

00:07:40.780 Become a little bit introspective. 0.97

00:07:42.380 Maybe you're the racist.

00:07:43.900 Yeah, because I think there's an instinct, especially with the older.

00:07:47.480 I mean, we used to say this about Chris Matthews.

00:07:49.420 Chris Matthews went through a generation in which race was such a big issue for people.

00:07:54.000 And it was something that was constantly talked about.

00:07:57.100 And, you know, really until Obama kind of got in there and, you know, he was we really came from that perspective of viewing everything through the prism of race.

00:08:08.720 He constantly saw things in racial terms.

00:08:12.280 To the point where he said this. 0.87

00:08:13.620 You know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour. 0.89

00:08:16.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:08:16.180 Right.

00:08:16.480 Because usually that's all I think.

00:08:18.480 That's all I think.

00:08:18.940 Right.

00:08:20.080 Like you think of when you think of everything in the term of black and white.

00:08:23.700 Uh huh.

00:08:24.420 Well, shockingly, everything becomes a black and white issue.

00:08:27.100 Yeah.

00:08:28.060 And, you know, it's the same thing that happens with conspiracy theorists.

00:08:31.760 Right.

00:08:31.940 Conspiracy theorists.

00:08:32.680 You get in when you get down the road in 9-11 and you get down the road to Sandy Hook and you go down all these things.

00:08:36.780 Well, of course, every shooting seems like a false flag to you.

00:08:39.900 Every time you see something, you think it's a conspiracy theory with the government.

00:08:44.700 And it's the same thing with the left and race.

00:08:47.160 It's not just there are actual things just like with conspiracy theories.

00:08:50.960 Governments do actually do bad things.

00:08:54.660 They have done things at times that are really terrible.

00:08:58.260 But it's the same thing with this where you have racial issues that are real.

00:09:02.080 There are actual racial issues that come up.

00:09:05.300 But when you see everything that way, you can't stop yourself from pulling things that are, you know, 15 lanes over from race back into your lane.

00:09:13.980 Because that's all you think about.

00:09:14.980 But it also, like Pat said, that lessens the real racism.

00:09:17.760 Yeah.

00:09:17.920 I mean, it just weakens that all the heck.

00:09:19.360 And that's what the same with, you know, the full Trump derangement syndrome.

00:09:24.220 You know, there are times when you want to be against Donald Trump, but you listen to the deranged syndrome people and you're like, OK, well, no, I'm not that bad.

00:09:32.140 Yeah.

00:09:32.280 You don't want to be those people.

00:09:33.520 I'm not going there with you.

00:09:34.080 I mean, in a way that's letting someone else control the way you feel, which I don't like either. 0.98

00:09:37.880 You know, just because the media says stupid things shouldn't affect my opinion. 0.94

00:09:41.000 I should be able to come up with my opinion on my own. 0.98

00:09:42.840 But this is another example of it. 0.99

00:09:44.360 They did this thing a while ago where it was like, you know, 13 of the last 15 people that Donald Trump has called dumb were black. 0.99

00:09:52.480 And this proves. 0.97

00:09:53.960 And Tubin actually kind of references it.

00:09:55.840 Except that seven or eight of them were the same person.

00:09:57.980 Yeah.

00:09:58.000 No.

00:09:58.240 Yeah.

00:09:58.400 I think it was something like 10 of 11 or something like that.

00:10:01.700 Yeah.

00:10:02.000 It was Maxine Waters.

00:10:03.060 Maxine Waters and Don Lemon, the two.

00:10:04.140 And so and you also to believe this theory, you have to also believe that he was not racist at all until he was elected because he did. 0.99

00:10:13.200 Before that, he was calling white people dumb all the time, all the time. 0.98

00:10:17.720 And then for the whole first year of his presidency, he only called one person dumb, Mika Brzezinski, who's white. 0.98

00:10:24.580 So you have to believe he developed the racism not in his first 71 years, but in the last year. 0.89

00:10:30.540 And in that last year, he developed the racism all solely based on Maxine Waters and Don Lemon.

00:10:37.700 Isn't an easier explanation of that is he doesn't like Maxine Waters and Don Lemon.

00:10:42.200 Maxine Waters and Don Lemon have been recently criticizing him. 0.99

00:10:46.260 And what Donald Trump does in those moments is called them dumb. 0.99

00:10:49.500 It's just like he called Jeb Bush dumb and Marco Rubio dumb and Tim Cruz dumb. 1.00

00:10:55.140 He had a really good point there. 1.00

00:10:56.620 Jeb Bush is dumb. 1.00

00:10:57.940 Some people are. 1.00

00:10:58.680 So is Maxine Waters.

00:10:59.900 Yeah, she is. 0.96

00:11:00.800 Now, Don Lemon, I do not think is dumb. 0.99

00:11:02.460 Yes, she is. 0.81

00:11:02.920 He is an opponent and he's, you know, he's liberal at times and I don't. 1.00

00:11:06.100 But Maxine Waters, I think, pretty clearly is dumb. 1.00

00:11:09.340 She makes incredibly stupid points all the time. 1.00

00:11:11.300 She's made a good case for being dumb the last few years, if not her entire life. 1.00

00:11:15.280 Her whole career. 0.99

00:11:17.060 I mean, it could be.

00:11:18.000 There could be other examples.

00:11:18.980 Maybe she's, you know, losing her sharpness as she gets later in life. 0.97

00:11:22.680 I don't know.

00:11:23.380 But, I mean, she is tripped up and made really insane comments. 1.00

00:11:29.140 Hank Johnson, you know.

00:11:30.640 Yeah.

00:11:30.800 Hank Johnson comes out and says, Guam's going to tip over. 1.00

00:11:33.260 Can we not say that he's dumb because he's black? 1.00

00:11:35.800 He happens to be a black person. 1.00

00:11:37.100 No, that's a dumb comment. 1.00

00:11:38.100 That's a dumb comment. 1.00

00:11:39.440 White or black, whoever said it, that's a dumb comment. 1.00

00:11:42.420 You know, Guam's not going to tip over because you put too many military forces on one side 0.99

00:11:45.720 of it.

00:11:46.400 That's not what islands do. 0.98

00:11:48.400 Okay?

00:11:48.980 So, I mean, can we not observe that sometimes people have those moments?

00:11:52.800 Do you have that from a scientist?

00:11:54.280 I had it from a military source who immediately was like, uh, we don't anticipate that happening.

00:12:02.340 Great.

00:12:03.020 One of the greatest responses of all time.

00:12:04.780 So good.

00:12:05.540 But, you know, you're right.

00:12:07.800 Taking these things from issues that are not related to race and trying to move them into

00:12:12.600 that analysis weakens the actual case.

00:12:18.380 And it doesn't, it doesn't make any sense.

00:12:21.520 It's the same thing, you know, like the alt-right, largely speaking, the alt-right is a, is a,

00:12:25.600 is a small group compared to, uh, you know, conservatives and Republicans and everything

00:12:29.700 else.

00:12:29.940 But when you try to cut, you know, call every single Republican alt-right, you, you fail,

00:12:37.560 you, you, you fail because you then weaken the case against people like Richard Spencer,

00:12:41.940 who is really a problem.

00:12:43.160 Like that theory that his, his theories, I think are a real negative and certainly have

00:12:47.780 nothing to do with conservatism.

00:12:49.000 But when you bring like Mitt Romney and you call him alt-right, it doesn't, there's no,

00:12:53.320 there's, there's, you lose all value in your criticism.

00:12:57.800 Yeah.

00:12:58.140 And all credibility.

00:12:59.120 Yeah.

00:12:59.720 Triple eight, seven, two, seven, B E C K.

00:13:02.220 It's Pat, Stu and Jeffy for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:13:06.880 It's Pat, Stu and Jeffy for Glenn this week.

00:13:10.140 You believe it's almost a labor day already?

00:13:13.860 What?

00:13:14.380 Monday, right?

00:13:14.960 It's labor day.

00:13:16.040 That's, uh, so we got that three day weekend coming up.

00:13:18.700 Stu, are you taking a four day weekend?

00:13:20.440 Uh, yeah.

00:13:20.980 Well, I mean.

00:13:21.280 You taking Friday off as well as Monday?

00:13:22.520 I'm working at home and stuff, but I don't have, uh, you're doing, uh, all the working

00:13:25.920 at home.

00:13:26.960 I'm not taking a place.

00:13:28.460 Stop it. 0.96

00:13:28.700 It's my whole freaking life. 0.94

00:13:30.620 I'll take that one all day. 0.84

00:13:32.040 No, but, uh, we, I did the show solo, uh, Monday, Pat, uh, solo Friday.

00:13:35.840 Well, Jeffy, will you be in Friday as well?

00:13:37.020 I think Jeffy will probably be here.

00:13:38.420 Sorry about that.

00:13:39.060 And also, uh, yeah, but no, you know, we don't do the, uh, we have got a TV show.

00:13:42.900 We have some other stuff going on, but, uh, you'll be here by your, by yourself, except

00:13:46.680 for the criminal that you're sitting across from.

00:13:49.960 Uh, by the way, uh, news and white matters, uh, happens, uh, tonight and every night.

00:13:53.600 Uh, actually we're doing it now.

00:13:54.880 That's five days a week, which is pretty cool.

00:13:57.200 We added Friday.

00:13:58.320 Added Friday.

00:13:58.980 And it's a lot of the reason for that is there's been a, a really big reaction to the podcast.

00:14:02.840 And it's one of those things that people really like listening to as well as watching.

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00:14:16.100 them.

00:14:16.480 So check that out news and why it matters on iTunes.

00:14:19.900 And there is so much to talk about today.

00:14:22.200 Um, once again, there's a huge effort to try to, uh, end the recitation of, uh, the pledge

00:14:31.380 of allegiance in public schools and it's the same guy this time, rather than being the

00:14:37.760 person who brought the lawsuit, he's the attorney for the atheists who brought a lawsuit.

00:14:42.280 Uh, Michael Newdow.

00:14:43.500 You remember this guy?

00:14:44.560 He's still trying to get rid of the pledge of allegiance.

00:14:48.640 It's, it's amazing.

00:14:49.880 Also, we got to talk about the Chicago priest who says the Pope won't be distracted, you

00:14:54.540 know, by this meaningless sex abuse thing. 0.74

00:14:56.700 Um, he needs to focus on global warming.

00:14:59.600 Uh, we'll get to that.

00:15:00.820 Um, not a good look.

00:15:02.760 There is yet another civil asset forfeiture story to tell you about.

00:15:06.660 Oh, wow.

00:15:07.180 If you listen to this time yesterday, you heard the crazy one in Utah.

00:15:10.560 This one's another insane story where people's property just getting taken for no reason.

00:15:16.860 So hard to believe that this could continually happen in America.

00:15:21.160 Um, and NPR has a really surprising study that they did.

00:15:25.260 I, I'm blown away that NPR, first of all, paid attention to it in the first place.

00:15:30.120 Secondly, actually reported their findings, uh, because this doesn't seem to fit their

00:15:35.080 narrative.

00:15:35.460 No, and it's one of those stats that when you hear it, it blatantly fails to you as possible.

00:15:42.980 You know, you see, you'll see liberals constantly share these numbers.

00:15:45.500 There's been 7,000 school shootings this year.

00:15:48.100 You're just like, is there any moment where you just sit back and say, there's no way that's

00:15:51.840 possible?

00:15:52.460 Like you obviously know it's not true.

00:15:54.660 Is there any part of you that gets to that point in your analysis?

00:15:58.060 Well, there were supposedly in 2015, 240 school shootings.

00:16:04.200 Right.

00:16:04.500 And we know that's preposterous.

00:16:05.900 Of course.

00:16:06.440 That didn't happen.

00:16:07.540 Now, sometimes they get to those numbers in various ways.

00:16:09.580 For example, um, a guy, uh, who has no association with a school at midnight feels despondent, leaves

00:16:17.860 his home, pulls into the back corner of the school parking lot and shoots himself.

00:16:22.100 Is that a school shooting?

00:16:24.060 Well, to any incident with a gun on school grounds, to any, uh, gun hating organization,

00:16:30.340 that's a school shooting.

00:16:31.220 And they'll put that in.

00:16:32.260 You'll have times where police officers will come and the police officer will mistakenly

00:16:37.380 shoot his gun that hits no one.

00:16:39.180 And they'll call it a school shooting.

00:16:40.540 Um, you know, someone, there've been times where pellet guns, some kid will bring in a

00:16:44.800 pellet gun and shoot one of his friends and they'll call it a school shooting.

00:16:47.140 These are, these are the type of things they go in there to, to juice the numbers because 0.98

00:16:50.340 we know the problem is there.

00:16:52.380 There is a problem with school shootings.

00:16:54.480 However, we know now we don't have to juice the numbers because there was 240 shootings

00:16:59.380 in 2015.

00:17:00.700 And this is a U S department of education report.

00:17:04.260 So, you know, it's some credibility, I guess behind it.

00:17:06.720 It's not like, you know, it's not mother Jones or, you know, uh, every town for gun safety.

00:17:12.120 This was a government report, which people generally speaking will take seriously.

00:17:16.200 The year was 2015, 2016, nearly 240 schools reported at least one incident involving a

00:17:21.580 school related shooting.

00:17:23.600 NPR God only knows the reason decided to actually check into this, which is amazing in and of

00:17:30.480 itself.

00:17:31.080 Because usually when the gun, when there's a stat about guns that make guns look bad,

00:17:35.260 nobody looks into them.

00:17:36.300 That's kind of the policy.

00:17:38.180 Yeah.

00:17:38.840 But, uh, in this case, what they found is, was amazing.

00:17:43.060 240 school shootings.

00:17:44.680 They write in 161 cases, schools or districts attested that no incident took place or couldn't

00:17:53.300 confirm one.

00:17:54.640 So what they're saying is not, not, not the stuff I'm talking about before where like it's

00:17:58.300 a pellet gun or it's a guy committing suicide near school grounds.

00:18:01.200 No, they're saying 161 of the 240 were just nothing.

00:18:06.400 It's even more amazing than that because of the remaining 59 cases, uh, they couldn't

00:18:12.460 be, some of those couldn't be confirmed or disconfirmed.

00:18:15.720 So they're unsure on them.

00:18:18.000 They actually found only 11 confirmed by either the schools or through news reports, 11 out of

00:18:25.740 240.

00:18:27.500 It's amazing.

00:18:28.280 It's amazing.

00:18:28.820 And you know, again, if you have a school shooting, it's probably going to be easy to

00:18:31.920 confirm.

00:18:32.660 You know, you call Parkland school district right now.

00:18:34.700 They're going to be able to confirm the school shooting occurred there.

00:18:37.180 Yeah.

00:18:37.340 Uh, some of this is amazing.

00:18:39.120 Uh, so civil rights data collection for 2018 required every public school, more than 96,000

00:18:43.720 answer questions on a wide range of issues.

00:18:45.900 What it appears is they put the wrong number.

00:18:48.840 Like they, someone put, I think it was Cleveland put 37 in for school shootings and it, they meant

00:18:53.020 to answer the question before it.

00:18:54.780 So gosh, now if Cleveland had 37 school shootings, I feel like we might've heard of

00:18:58.800 that.

00:19:03.940 This is the Glenn Beck program this week with Pat Stu and Jeffy, just, uh, learning about

00:19:12.160 the right wing conservative echo chamber that's going on here where, um, you know, there's,

00:19:19.120 there's no bias in the media, especially at CNN, which is, uh, it's good to know.

00:19:25.080 It's good to know that everybody's right down the journalistic middle, uh, that's what they

00:19:31.180 do when it comes to Donald Trump.

00:19:32.640 It's all fair.

00:19:33.440 Uh, Chuck Todd went into this and then made sure we understood, uh, why people believe

00:19:39.540 there is a media bias.

00:19:41.540 Listen,

00:19:41.720 The truth of the matter is 62% think the media is biased.

00:19:45.700 So in other words, if you look at the approval rating of Donald Trump, the conservative echo

00:19:48.960 chamber created that environment.

00:19:50.480 It's not, it's not, no, no, no, no.

00:19:52.260 I mean, it has been a tactic and a tool of the Roger Ailes created echo chamber.

00:19:56.520 So let's not pretend it's not anything other than that.

00:19:59.360 The Roger Ailes created echo chamber.

00:20:02.040 Like Fox news makes up for all the mainstream media bias.

00:20:06.840 Of course.

00:20:07.520 Oh, that's amazing.

00:20:08.700 It is.

00:20:09.280 It is amazing.

00:20:10.220 Uh, he's dead by the way.

00:20:11.260 Uh, just in case anyone's wondering for a while now, for a while.

00:20:15.740 It's an interesting thing because there's just never, there's never any responsibility

00:20:20.980 taken for what the media actually does.

00:20:23.560 We talked about that with the, just a few minutes ago with the claim that Donald Trump 0.99

00:20:27.820 is a racist from Jeffrey Toobin and because he calls black people dumb, uh, in the past, 1.00

00:20:33.980 that means that he thinks all black people are dumb. 1.00

00:20:36.140 And when he criticizes an NBA player like LeBron James, again, he's criticizing anyone 1.00

00:20:40.540 who will, who opposes him publicly enough for him to notice.

00:20:44.180 That's basically the Donald Trump policy.

00:20:46.420 If he notices that you said something bad about him, he'll say something bad about you.

00:20:49.780 If he doesn't notice it, then I'll probably ignore it.

00:20:52.460 You know, he doesn't, that's the way it works.

00:20:54.740 Uh, but this latest story that happened with CNN, uh, and, and people are criticizing this

00:21:01.620 as if it was, you know, it's again, the right wing echo chamber calling it fake news.

00:21:06.120 CNN reported that Donald Trump knew about the Russian meeting before it happened.

00:21:11.100 Now, if that were to be true, it would be a pretty significant development in the story.

00:21:16.400 And it was treated as if it was a pretty significant development in the story.

00:21:19.780 They said they had multiple, you know, important inside credible sources that, that,

00:21:23.760 you know, that talked about this.

00:21:26.600 And only weeks later, after the story has run its course, after everybody's repeated

00:21:33.220 it a thousand times, do we find out that one of the sources that CNN had was Lanny Davis.

00:21:40.060 Now, Lanny Davis is the attorney for Michael Cohen.

00:21:43.940 There's no way you can say it's a fair, like Lanny Davis, you know, say what you want about him.

00:21:50.040 You can never take an attorney's word who's advocating on his, uh, for his client as a

00:21:57.660 legitimate unbiased source of, he's just saying anything that will help his client.

00:22:01.920 That's his job.

00:22:02.820 So, in the story, they cite Lanny Davis as one of the sources for Trump knowing in advance

00:22:09.540 about the Russian meeting.

00:22:12.260 And now Lanny Davis is saying, oh yeah, by the way, I don't actually feel any confidence

00:22:17.500 in that information anymore.

00:22:18.780 So, Davis is coming out and saying, you know, look, this story probably isn't true.

00:22:24.800 CNN is standing by the story anyway, because they're saying, well, we had other sources

00:22:30.220 who told us that too. Take that, put that aside for a second, because, you know, it's

00:22:36.100 ridiculous to stick around with a story like that, I think, when you have a major part of

00:22:41.240 your sourcing fall apart. At the very least, you should say there are now major doubts 0.74

00:22:45.560 about the story because one of our major sources, um, uh, fell apart. However, we still do have

00:22:51.600 other sources, uh, you know, available and we're checking into it. I mean, at least you give

00:22:55.540 some sort of, you got to step back from it a little bit. CNN isn't. But bigger problem

00:22:59.760 than that is, one, how you include Lanny Davis as a source on anything about Michael Cohen.

00:23:04.020 If Lanny Davis is saying it, you got to say Lanny Davis is saying it. He's an, he's a paid

00:23:08.760 advocate for Michael Cohen. And we need that as part of our legal system, but we don't need

00:23:14.200 that as part of journalism. You know, you can't just be quoting the random claims of a, of

00:23:19.660 a lawyer as proof of anything. You can say their lawyers are making this. You can say

00:23:26.300 a source from their legal team made this argument. That's okay. But you can't just act as if they're

00:23:31.080 just this fair arbiter of the story. And more, I think more importantly, they, they included

00:23:38.780 a quote or a section about Lanny Davis in which they asked for comment and Lanny Davis would

00:23:44.960 not give comment on the story. Well, that's just flatly a lie. He did give comment. You

00:23:49.860 included it in the story. He confirmed your source. He was one of the sources for the story.

00:23:56.220 If not the only source. He gave no record and probably the only source. He gave no on the

00:24:00.960 record comment, but what you're at, you are telling your audience, the source couldn't have

00:24:06.440 been Lanny Davis. It had to be more credible than that because Lanny Davis wouldn't give us

00:24:12.080 comment. We asked Lanny Davis about it and he wouldn't say anything. Well, he did say something

00:24:16.500 and we now know he said something because Lanny Davis told us he said something. And that's

00:24:21.820 the sort of thing that it happens all the time with the media where they are just, they're

00:24:28.220 so itching to get something that will take the president down. And that one story that's

00:24:33.640 really going to change things when I don't know if anybody's noticed, nothing's going to

00:24:36.680 change things. I mean, there really, it does not seem to be any story that could be printed

00:24:41.460 that would change for positive or negative Donald Trump's approval rating. It's been

00:24:45.860 in between 38 and 45 by most credible polls, his entire presidency. Now 38 and 45 is a bit

00:24:54.080 of a range, but not much. You know, when, when things are going well, it gets up to around

00:24:58.400 45. When things are going poorly, it gets down to 38. And sometimes when things are going

00:25:02.760 really poorly, it activates his base and it goes up to 45. And sometimes when things are

00:25:06.380 going really well, people get bored and it goes down to 38. It doesn't, none of it, it's

00:25:10.040 just in that range. It's almost random chance at this point, his approval rating is probably

00:25:14.640 around 41 or 42. And he's got a range on either side of that, that bounces, bounces back and

00:25:19.060 forth. People have made their mind up on Donald Trump. The man has been one of the most publicly

00:25:23.700 accessible figures in our society for 30 or 40 years. We all know what we think about Donald

00:25:30.740 Trump at this point. So the idea that they continually try this and bend every rule that they would

00:25:37.900 not bend for other people and, and take every liberty they can to make sure the people finally,

00:25:43.960 this story is going to be the one that convinces everyone that they should turn away from this

00:25:47.880 guy. I don't know what would make that happen or would make people turn to him at this point.

00:25:53.220 You know, we look about the African-American approval rating and it has improved. There's

00:25:58.340 one poll that shows it very high, a Rasmussen poll, but most polls show it has improved slightly,

00:26:02.880 but it's still pretty low. You could easily make the argument and Trump makes it from time to time

00:26:07.280 that there've been really good results. The black unemployment rate is as low as it's ever been.

00:26:11.940 There's been, he's, he's actually addressed some of the criminal justice reforms that, you know,

00:26:16.440 the community has been asking for, for a long time. There's a real argument to be made that he

00:26:21.760 should have a higher approval rating among African-Americans, but they've made their mind up

00:26:25.620 largely. So this on both sides, everybody's made their mind up and everyone just keeps trying to come

00:26:31.420 out here and act as if they can change it with their next story. I don't know what could change

00:26:36.200 it. I would, it will be interesting to see if he, if the winning idea goes away, how, how does,

00:26:45.240 how is he received? If what the, many of the pollsters are predicting, and they're not always

00:26:50.180 right as we know, but as right now it looks like state of the race as of right now looks like

00:26:54.820 Republicans are going to lose the house. There's a chance they could lose the Senate. I think it's

00:26:59.240 very unlikely though. I think that's very unlikely. That would be a real cataclysm. But if it were to

00:27:05.840 happen, uh, and he lost both houses, uh, you know, both sides and, and he became, you know,

00:27:11.240 the, the, the winning sort of, uh, feeling around him wasn't necessarily there. I mean, certainly he

00:27:16.740 would take a part of the blame as every president does when their party loses power, when you're

00:27:21.120 president, it would be interesting to see if, if people care then. I don't think they will.

00:27:25.440 I don't think so either.

00:27:26.060 I think they'll just blame, you know, well, Republicans, that's the swamp or whatever.

00:27:28.940 And you can kind of move on with your life. I don't know that there's anything because this,

00:27:32.940 there is a, a real analysis and many people have made it that Donald Trump has done a good job

00:27:38.060 on policy. And that's a really good reason for you to approve of him if you're a Republican. Um,

00:27:42.800 and at least on a lot of things, there's another part of this equation that just turns out to be

00:27:47.840 emotion. The people, we certainly recognize it on the left, right? I mean, there is so much

00:27:52.880 reflexive emotion against this guy for every single thing that he does. They'll do everything

00:27:58.700 they can. They'll take things where he makes an offhanded comment. They'll try to take it exactly

00:28:02.540 literally and, and then show you 25 other examples about how presidents said other things in the past.

00:28:07.260 You know, we'll, we'll, we'll obsess for multiple days about how high he put the flag for John McCain

00:28:12.740 and, you know, whether he was responsive enough or really felt the amount of love that he should

00:28:17.820 have for, for, you know, this, one of his arch enemies in politics who, you know, passes away,

00:28:23.580 you can absolutely obsess about those things, but it's not going to change anybody's mind.

00:28:27.900 And I think there's certainly a part on the right, as we've seen over the years too,

00:28:31.080 that just loves the guy and is not going to go anywhere no matter what he does.

00:28:34.380 So maybe the answer here is just to not constantly obsess about this person.

00:28:39.900 You know, maybe we look at other things in our life. I mean, he certainly, he certainly seems to

00:28:44.040 be able to defend himself without other people getting on his side all the time.

00:28:47.840 He seems to be very capable of that. It's like, it seems to be the thing he really enjoys about

00:28:51.680 the job. I mean, he really does seem to like getting in the middle of those things. And I

00:28:55.640 think that's why a lot of people love him so much. Oh, he most definitely does. And I'd like to do

00:28:59.500 that, Stu, but then he tweets something and I can't, I just can't walk away from him.

00:29:03.680 That does seem, you know, the media should really look at it and say, okay, should we cover this

00:29:08.500 story about Donald Trump? Well, is it something, is the story about something he tweeted? If that's your

00:29:13.980 answer, the answer should always be no, right? Like who cares what he tweets? The same thing

00:29:18.840 with even, I would even argue when Donald Trump says something, the media should largely ignore

00:29:25.580 it. And I know the left will get all pissed off about that because they'll say, wow, what

00:29:29.720 you ignore what the president says or what the president tweets. Well, I mean, he outwardly

00:29:35.260 tells us all the time that the things he's saying are just negotiation. I'm just throwing it out

00:29:40.420 there. Yeah. Like he says it all the time. He tells you the things he's saying are for different

00:29:46.080 purposes, whether it's to piss one of his enemies off, whether it's to slam somebody, whether it's

00:29:50.060 just to get a better negotiating position, right? When he says something about North Korea,

00:29:54.240 should you go out there and report it crazily for months or just realize he's just, he's

00:30:00.980 negotiating, he's saying what he thinks is going to help his base and just why spend time

00:30:06.960 on it if you know that's the answer? You know, I mean, Trump likes getting into these battles.

00:30:11.640 He likes, you know, sort of the back and forth of the verbal conflict. He likes it. And a lot

00:30:19.160 of times in his own words, he says things for different reasons than he means them.

00:30:25.720 And I think the media likes it too. As much as they complain about this battle, they love it.

00:30:31.180 Otherwise they'd be backing off of it. But you got people like Jim Acosta who is just soaking up the

00:30:36.840 attention. He loves it. This is helping his career. Jim Acosta will probably be able to write his ticket

00:30:43.360 to whatever he wants to do next because everybody's focused on him. And he's the, he's the number

00:30:48.820 one enemy in the media of the president. And so he loves it as much as Trump does. Yes. That's why

00:30:55.680 they're, they're just not going to stop because they think it's good for them. Uh, and, and it's,

00:31:01.740 it's creating a lot of attention for him. Yeah. And I really do think, you know, if there's a better,

00:31:06.740 better timed book than addicted to outrage, which is coming out from Glenn in a couple of weeks,

00:31:11.060 I mean, I can't think of one because this is exactly the problem. The media knows they get clicks

00:31:15.860 from, uh, from throwing the outrage out there, whether they, this is the big point, whether

00:31:21.260 they feel it or not. I have to imagine that, you know, you go, if you're one of these people

00:31:26.620 that are going on CNN all the time, you've just got to be like, Oh God, do I really have

00:31:29.780 to talk about another one of his tweets? Yeah. Like we all know he doesn't mean that or what

00:31:33.620 we all know this isn't real. We all know that him saying, uh, that Antifa is dangerous has

00:31:41.540 nothing to do with black people. We all know that again, I can't, someone looked, you know,

00:31:46.120 started searching and did find one black person in Antifa in the way background, like, and everyone

00:31:50.540 in the foreground is white. It's, it's a, I, to me, largely speaking, I don't know, 90 plus

00:31:55.480 percent white organization. I never really thought about it until now. I never thought about it either, 0.57

00:32:00.320 but at least my impression from all the videos I've seen, it's always white people doing the 0.93

00:32:04.700 violence. It's always white people throwing things at people. It's always white people hitting 0.98

00:32:08.320 people with bats. It's all absolutely things that way. But if you are in this constant 0.99

00:32:14.420 outrage cycle where you have to blow up everything into something that it's not, you know, I mean,

00:32:19.080 I guess that's what you do. I guess that's your way that someone could get addicted to outrage

00:32:23.880 the new book by Glenn Beck. It's an interesting question. Jeff, I was, I don't see it anywhere

00:32:27.900 in front of me. So unfortunately the answer is no, you can not know. Yes. You can pre-order

00:32:31.340 it at Amazon and everywhere else, but it's coming out on September 18th. So you should do

00:32:36.340 that if you feel like it. 888-727-BECK. Glenn's on vacation this week. It's Pat Stu and Jeffy

00:32:43.400 for Glenn. Hey, last night the Democrats embraced another socialist in Florida this time. This time

00:32:56.080 the big socialist victory happened in a fairly red state. So it'll be interesting to see how

00:33:05.960 the Democrat nominee fares in the general election against the Republican. Um, but once again,

00:33:13.020 the Democrats who claim the Republicans are the ones who have gone so extreme,

00:33:18.120 they've turned to socialism and a socialist, uh, for their, their hopes in the election in November.

00:33:26.020 Obviously a huge gift to Republicans.

00:33:28.020 I hope so.

00:33:28.800 I mean, it doesn't mean necessarily that it's going to work out, but if they had a chance of winning,

00:33:32.680 they will have a better chance of winning against a socialist. Yeah. That is especially one that's,

00:33:37.700 you know, talking about it so overtly. This is a Sanders backed, uh, candidate, a guy who was

00:33:43.040 kind of in trouble in his campaign. And then Sanders came down and seemed to push him over the edge.

00:33:48.940 That's why Trump pushed the Republican over the edge. Yep. And in Florida as well. Uh, DeSantis is

00:33:54.920 interesting. The op, kind of the opposite happened in Arizona where Kelly Ward and Arpaio, uh, lost to

00:34:02.900 a more conventional sort of now, now this is of course right after McCain passing away, uh, which

00:34:08.440 may have played into that. Also two candidates kind of that were very Trumpy, if you want to say like

00:34:13.260 Ward and Arpaio, obviously Arpaio was very much that way. So it was kind of two candidates splitting

00:34:18.520 that vote maybe a little bit. Either way, uh, that one worked, went kind of to the establishment.

00:34:22.420 So, I mean, really these races have been mixed. I mean, you know, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had a

00:34:26.680 candidate she was fighting for and got destroyed. Something like 86 to 14. So it's still none of

00:34:32.880 her candidates, none of her endorsements have, have worked out, have they? I don't, I can't think

00:34:37.600 she's like 0 for 8 or 0 for 9 now. So, I mean, that's, that's a positive thing. But Sanders is the

00:34:43.000 same, you know, certainly same policy wise. Uh, and his, his guy, his work, his guy came through in a

00:34:49.620 tough race. Andrew Gillum, uh, the, uh, Tallahassee mayor.

00:34:56.160 Glenn Beck. With Pat, Stu, and Jeffy this week, uh, for Glenn. You know, there's some kind of Ruth

00:35:04.080 Bader Ginsburg, uh, hysteria going on right now. And I, you know, not only is there a documentary,

00:35:11.220 there's a major, uh, movie release coming out, I think on Christmas day. And now there's a CNN

00:35:18.140 special. Are they running the, is it, I think they're running the documentary, which is incredible.

00:35:23.000 Man, are they promoting that thing? Ruth hysteria. Yeah. Ruth hysteria is good. I like that. I like 0.98

00:35:28.560 Ruth hysteria. It is really amazing. You know, again, there was a Ruth Bader Ginsburg documentary

00:35:33.600 made and just like praising her. There's like a little cult following around her. Like, and it's

00:35:37.700 kind of one of those things that here's this little tiny old lady who's super tough and doesn't give 1.00

00:35:41.320 up on her, you know, like, and of course she's super liberal, which helps. Um, but I honestly

00:35:45.640 think it's, there's part of it is like sort of a Betty White syndrome where like, I, you know,

00:35:49.800 I love Betty White, but like there was a thing she had a few years ago. But Betty White's got some

00:35:52.800 charm. Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Well, but after you reach a certain age and you know, I'm well aware

00:35:58.420 of this is that after you reach a certain age, people are like, oh, he's cute. I haven't reached

00:36:02.820 that yet. Well, you've reached the age where people think you're cute,

00:36:07.580 but you have past Ruth Bader Ginsburg's age. But it also is, I think, I think you're right

00:36:12.260 with the Betty White syndrome. And I think also it's a man, we've got to build her up and 0.96

00:36:16.420 make her happy. So she doesn't leave. I think there's something to that too, because I will

00:36:21.560 tell you this, if she were to retire tomorrow, they would hate her more than anybody has ever

00:36:27.760 been hated. How dare you? How dare you leave? Well, they did it to Kennedy. Uh, they, they

00:36:33.440 bludgeoned him for leaving. They loved him for years because he was the, the quote unquote

00:36:37.180 conservative that kept siding with them. Yeah. Uh, he was the greatest guy in the world

00:36:40.700 until he was gone. And then he was the worst guy in the world. The Ginsburg thing is so 0.97

00:36:45.240 amazing because, uh, there's, there seems to be, I mean, other than the speculation, I just

00:36:52.660 can't figure out what the, what the reason for it all of a sudden is. I think she's an

00:36:56.920 interesting character in which she's, if you think about it, if you're a liberal, right?

00:37:00.340 Like the same way I love Clarence Thomas, right? Clarence Thomas, because he's generally,

00:37:04.460 he's the most conservative, uh, person on the Supreme court. And at least, you know,

00:37:10.540 depending on how you measure it and those things are always tough to measure, but he's certainly

00:37:13.460 one of the top one or two. Uh, and he's a, you know, he, I think he does a great job on

00:37:17.580 the Supreme court. And, and he, so he's really, so that part of it, if you're a liberal, you

00:37:21.760 love Ruth Bader Ginsburg. She never disappoints you. She's always, always on the liberal side.

00:37:26.620 She never always, Oh wait, wow. This one, she went the other way. She's super predictable. 0.88

00:37:31.240 A hundred percent. Like, you know, basically Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez add about a hundred

00:37:36.800 points to the IQ and put her in the Supreme court, right? Like it's that sort of arrangement.

00:37:41.820 Of course the left loves that. Right. I mean, you know, she's, and you know, that's part of

00:37:47.660 it. I think another part of it is, you know, just her physical sort of stature, right? Like

00:37:52.720 she's this tiny, like old lady and just a power who's just still a powerhouse, you know, 0.98

00:37:58.540 like, and I think that's one of the things they like about, you know, Betty, that's how 1.00

00:38:01.700 Betty White had that resurgence in some ways. In the past we heard how much, what a relationship 1.00

00:38:05.180 she had with Scalia and how he loved her and they loved to battle. So she's had that kind

00:38:10.120 of bit of a little bit of love with that. But can you imagine? And she's fought for women's 1.00

00:38:14.800 rights for so long. All the causes that are popular. But I mean, think about this from a news

00:38:19.600 organization standpoint, this is essentially a pro Ruth Bader Ginsburg propaganda piece.

00:38:25.320 She, you know, it's, it's basically trying to turn her into a cult hero, which has sort

00:38:29.640 of happened. And this is on that, uh, on that level. Should CNN be airing that? I mean, to

00:38:36.120 me, the answer is no. Even the same thing with, you know, with Scalia, right? Like Scalia

00:38:42.920 passes away. Should you be, should you make a documentary or air a documentary that's a one

00:38:49.480 cited propaganda piece about, uh, Antonin Scalia if you're a news organization? Probably

00:38:54.780 not. Right. I mean, if you're going to do the thing about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, you probably

00:38:59.420 also have to do it for Antonin Scalia if you want to even attempt to look fair. Well, the

00:39:03.720 good thing is, is that she believes in the United States and the constitution and the, that,

00:39:08.580 well, we saw that in the trailer for the movie coming up. There's nothing better. Yeah, absolutely.

00:39:12.620 We saw that in this. The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S. constitution.

00:39:19.800 Nor does the word freedom, your honor. Booyah! Oh, did she nail him? Wow. That's supposedly

00:39:29.560 based on a true incident, I guess, from her past, which was in her thirties and her twenties.

00:39:35.060 I don't know, but the Supreme Court justice leans in and says, the word woman doesn't appear 1.00

00:39:42.880 even once in the U.S. constitution. Nor does the word freedom, your honor. Except for, well,

00:39:55.000 it does. Uh, but other than that, don't worry about the facts. That's great. I mean, it's not

00:40:03.260 in our constitution though, right? I mean, it's like, it's in our constitution, but you've

00:40:07.260 got to go all the way to the first amendment before you find the word freedom. So it's

00:40:13.140 pretty tough. I mean, it's tough to find. Yeah. Uh, and she is the one who famously, as 0.59

00:40:17.960 Jeffy was kind of just pointing out there, uh, said that South Africa's constitution was

00:40:23.760 South Africa's is the one which you should focus on. And Canada, because it was written

00:40:28.440 in 1982, ours is too old. But for instance, in South Africa, Hey, what does that analysis mean

00:40:36.060 for her? You see, you know, it's like, I love this, this idea that the, the, the oldest person

00:40:40.420 on the Supreme court can tell us it's, you know, the constitution's too old. Should we start throwing

00:40:45.240 out Supreme court justices at 65 too? One of the reasons that she really liked the constitution

00:40:50.200 from South Africa. Well, they came up with a, uh, really incredible concept of an independent

00:40:56.240 judiciary. Yeah. Why the hell didn't we think of that? An independent judiciary? What, what

00:41:02.820 if we had, wait, what if we had an independent judiciary, an independent legislative branch

00:41:09.240 and you couple that with an independent executive branch, but they're all separate and co-equal

00:41:17.700 what would happen? I mean, I can't even think what kind of government you'd have then. It's

00:41:23.080 like, what do you mean they came up with independent? We did that 240 years ago. What are you talking

00:41:28.480 about? Have you seen our constitution? Have you read it? Certainly by her rulings. I don't

00:41:34.300 think she's read it. And by this little trailer, I don't think she's read it. You, you, you're

00:41:38.600 telling us that the word of freedom is not in it. And I love the way she pauses there because

00:41:42.640 it's so powerful. What does she say? I saw power. The first time I heard it, I thought she

00:41:46.500 was saying, no, the word woman isn't in there, but the word freedom is no. She listened to

00:41:51.820 this carefully. The word woman does not appear even once in the U S constitution. You could

00:41:57.380 tell he's a bastard. Listen to the tone of his voice. Almost like, you know, Christian 1.00

00:42:03.200 Bales, Batman. Yeah. The word woman. It's almost like he's vomiting the word woman. It's

00:42:08.960 so offensive to him. The word woman. Listen to this. The word woman does not appear even

00:42:16.720 once in the U S constitution. Nor does the word freedom. Yeah. Nor does the word. Nor

00:42:22.220 does your honor. Oh my. Ooh, that's powerful. I mean, what is even a point there? I mean,

00:42:31.340 freedom of speech. I think the point is that the U S constitution is flawed and, and you

00:42:38.520 know, the word woman's not in it. Neither is the word freedom. Neither do we have, I

00:42:43.500 guess, an independent judiciary that's set apart. I mean, it's ridiculous. Was she arguing 0.96

00:42:48.080 for a new amendment to the constitution at this point at the, in this particular, in

00:42:52.400 this moment? I don't know. Cause the only thing you can maybe think of it and I, and I, off

00:42:56.700 the top of my head, I can't, I don't know, but she's just saying that she's not concluding

00:43:00.340 the amendments. Like we had to amend the constitution to get freedom in it. Well, is

00:43:04.820 that what she's trying to say? If you would have said, if you, it doesn't appear until

00:43:08.660 the amendments, that's one thing, but when you can, because the bill of rights is part

00:43:12.840 of the constitution. Right. I know. But what I'm saying is she's arguing for, which I would

00:43:17.080 maybe suspect the equal rights amendment. Maybe she's saying we have to add in the word

00:43:22.560 woman maybe, uh, here with another amendment. I don't know. I'm trying again, I'm giving her 1.00

00:43:27.700 too much of a break here, but way too much. And we always do that. Yeah. They never do

00:43:32.080 that for us. No, of course never. I'm just trying to understand. I feel like that's

00:43:36.180 valuable to at least try to understand it. But I can't wait till Christmas day when

00:43:40.060 this power, I'm taking the family. Oh yeah. Oh man. Before we open presents, we're

00:43:46.180 headed. Yeah. Oh man. I've already, I've already got the, the wine ready to go. Open

00:43:50.740 it up, take a drink, sip of wine, go to the movies and just celebrate roosteria and go

00:43:55.340 for it. And Ruth Bader Ginsburg is about the size of my elf on a shelf too. So it kind

00:43:59.240 of fits. She does look like elf on the shelf. She's so tiny, tiny, but powerful, tiny, but

00:44:06.480 powerful. It's kind of like tiny, you know, like the same way people think about small dogs

00:44:12.720 where like, you know, there's really, it's really difficult for a small dog to be ugly,

00:44:16.700 even though like I have pugs and pugs are absolutely ugly, but people think they're

00:44:20.560 cute because they're small. Yes. Right. They're small. Yeah. And not Jeffy doesn't, but of course

00:44:25.480 Jeffy, you know, look, look at Jeffy. Uh, but there's a, there's that thing where I think

00:44:30.960 when, when you're small and powerful, it gives you that, like, there's some cool part of that

00:44:36.960 that people like. Yeah. And I think that's the main part. Cause there's no real, like you

00:44:40.640 could easily love Briar who's also old and also super liberal, right? Like there's, you

00:44:47.360 know, you, you, I mean, you could go and, and, and praise, uh, Sotomayor who, and some

00:44:52.820 measures is to the left of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and is younger and Hispanic. You could do that

00:44:58.700 if you wanted to as well, but they, they're picking Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I think because

00:45:02.160 of just physical qualities, which again, they say you should never do, but she's tiny and 0.94

00:45:07.520 she's old and she's cute. And, and, and like, you want to give her a little hug and maybe

00:45:12.980 pet her. Right. You know, and it's, I think that's why you want to help her up and walk

00:45:16.240 with her. Yeah. You want to just give her a big hug. She's Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I don't

00:45:20.300 necessarily, but I want to, I personally, I want the new, uh, Ruth on a shelf now. Ruth

00:45:26.300 on a shelf is a solid product. That's a solid, we could easily get some of those. Yes. You

00:45:30.640 feel like your house might be haunted with it though. I don't think I, I don't think

00:45:34.520 I want to come out in the middle of the night and that thing's just scampering across the

00:45:36.920 ground somehow. I think it could happen. A Ruth on a shelf easily comes alive and that

00:45:46.620 I don't want. No, that's scary. That's a frightening thought. 888-727-BECK. It's Pat's doing Jeffy

00:45:52.880 for Glenn this week. The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S.

00:45:59.940 constitution. Yeah. Nor does the word freedom. Your honor. Oh, she nailed him. Oh, super

00:46:11.900 powerful. How is she is? Uh, we need somebody to make a Ruth on the shelf. We need that.

00:46:18.900 I think Ruth on a shelf. It could be a good product. I think we should make it. I mean,

00:46:23.100 that's a, I'm telling you, it can't be that, it can't be that expensive, right? You put

00:46:26.480 it up at Christmas and then, and then every day, uh, you move it further from the Christmas

00:46:31.760 tree because you don't, you don't want anything to do with, you want it to be a separation

00:46:36.360 of Ruth and, and Ruth and state and state. Church and Ruth. Uh, yeah, that's that. I like

00:46:43.740 that. And you, maybe if you have like, it's always moving further and further away from,

00:46:48.120 maybe you should put, maybe you post the constitution somewhere in your house and every

00:46:52.680 day it runs a little bit further away from it. That could be, maybe on the other side

00:46:58.320 of your house, you put the South African constitution because we see how well South Africa is going

00:47:02.260 right now. It just gets closer and closer to South African constitution. I love it. I love

00:47:06.420 it. I don't exactly know what the audience is for this product, but I think I'd put it

00:47:10.700 in my house. And speaking of South Africa, did you see that they, uh, ruled 300,000 gun

00:47:19.340 owners have to hand in their guns? Oh, this is good. This is going really well. Everything's

00:47:24.680 going fine in South Africa. There's nothing to say for, right? Yes. There's, there's absolutely

00:47:29.740 nothing to see here. Okay. There's, there's no problem whatsoever. And if you think there

00:47:36.320 is, you're a racist, you're a white supremacist. Did you happen to read the, uh, the story from 0.98

00:47:42.460 Leon Wolf on the blaze about South Africa? He did an analysis piece about it and trying

00:47:46.860 to put it in context and perspective because there's so much online right now that you can't

00:47:50.560 trust. And, you know, some people are saying basically it's, you know, the Holocaust times

00:47:55.580 50, uh, the other side, they're saying it's the life is perfect in South Africa. And you 0.57

00:48:00.960 know, somewhere in between is probably the truth, but you know, one of the big issues

00:48:05.920 with it is there is a lot of violence in South Africa. The question is whether it's actually

00:48:11.300 based on, you know, farms and, and, and race. And there have been incidents of that, but the,

00:48:16.640 the crime problem in and of itself, I had no idea it was this bad. Listen to this description,

00:48:21.200 uh, and tell me you want to live in this place. How bad is the violent problem in South Africa?

00:48:25.780 Let's put it in perspective. In the United States, Chicago gets a lot of publicity for having

00:48:29.820 a shockingly high murder rate. Last year, Chicago had 650 murders in a city with a population

00:48:34.180 of just over 2.7 million, meaning that Chicago had a murder rate about, of about 24 murders

00:48:39.180 per 100,000 citizens. The entire country of South Africa had a murder rate of over 33 murders

00:48:46.180 per 100,000, which means the entire country, including the relatively rural and peaceful portions

00:48:52.520 has a murder rate. That's more than a third worse than Chicago. It's an entire country of

00:48:57.960 Chicago. And then a third worse than that. Wow. I mean, imagine how bad the violence problem

00:49:04.300 is. And it seems to be largely, uh, associated in cities, not necessarily a farm. Exactly why

00:49:09.780 we need to get rid of the guns. And that's what they're doing. Right. I bet that is what

00:49:13.760 their argument is. Right. You know, you couple the, the gun grab with the land expropriation

00:49:18.780 without compensation and you've got yourself a really good situation. Perfect country. It's

00:49:24.040 perfect. There's nothing wrong there. I don't know why people are getting all upset. Stop

00:49:28.480 it. There's nothing to see here at all. Let's move along. Yeah. Let's move. South Africa 0.52

00:49:32.740 is an interesting study too. And in the idea of, uh, of what liberals always say about places

00:49:37.840 like Denmark and Sweden and Finland, these sort of, you know, sort of homogeneous, you know,

00:49:45.420 countries where there's never been any history of integration or different cultures coming

00:49:51.380 together. It's been one culture, uh, that has lived the same way for a long time. Almost

00:49:56.260 everyone is involved in that culture, has the same traditions, the same things people. When

00:50:01.180 you have different groups in a country, a lot of times they disagree with each other and

00:50:05.740 real problems come out of that. South Africa is obviously an extreme example of this, but

00:50:09.720 it's also why you can't just say, Oh, all right, we'll just put universal healthcare in our

00:50:13.900 country because it works in Norway. You know, Oh, we'll just do all the things that they

00:50:17.340 do in Denmark and we'll just do them here. Well, this is a different place. You have much

00:50:21.240 you can't just, you can't just drop in their crappy, you know, system that I, you know,

00:50:25.020 I particularly don't want, I like ours much better, but you can't just drop theirs

00:50:27.860 and it's going to work the same way. It's ridiculous to assume that they're finding that

00:50:31.540 out themselves. Uh, they don't need us to tell them that. I mean, those countries are

00:50:35.360 already admitting that, that with, uh, you know, with their immigration policies, the

00:50:40.040 old policies that were so great, not so great right now. All of a sudden they cost

00:50:45.560 way too much and all of a sudden they're, they're starting to really hurt the economies

00:50:48.480 and all of a sudden they're starting to drain money from their citizens. And of course

00:50:52.200 this happens. And all of a sudden they've got people who disagree with each other

00:50:55.220 now because they don't come from the same culture. Right. Huh. So you're saying when

00:51:00.620 there's diversity, it's a little tougher. Yeah. And I think that was, you know, one of the 1.00

00:51:04.920 main things the founders talked about, you know, and, and, and, you know, just generally

00:51:09.480 speaking, our conception of a melting pot, right. Is that where we, I mean, we do, I

00:51:15.220 think this country has benefited greatly from immigration over the years in, in, in, in

00:51:19.540 incredible ways, legal immigration, by the way. Uh, but it's been an incredible, uh, you

00:51:27.320 know, improvement on our society and we've melted into each other. We've taken, you

00:51:31.060 know, I've used this example, but like the, the NFL's condiment, an official condiment

00:51:36.600 was like hummus. Like think about that 10, 15, 20 years ago. Now again, I understand

00:51:43.400 it's just an advertising thing, right. It's not an, it's just an advertising thing, but

00:51:47.880 I mean, the most, give you a better one. Uh, the most popular condiment in the United

00:51:52.060 States of America is salsa. It is not ketchup. It is not mustard. It's not mayonnaise. It's

00:51:57.420 salsa. Now that, is that a negative thing? I mean, if you like salsa, uh, you may think

00:52:02.760 it is, if you don't like salsa, you might think it is, but the point is an amazing

00:52:05.780 thing. It's an amazing thing. And it shows you the diversity here. It's because

00:52:09.020 something we, we didn't just say, well, we don't want your new thing here. Get

00:52:12.820 away. We said your new thing tastes pretty freaking awesome. Let's have more. Right.

00:52:16.760 You know? Yeah. Uh, it's something that America has done and many other cultures

00:52:22.960 have not, you know, like you, you get, you know, you, if American culture, God,

00:52:27.300 forbid for, you know, penetrates another country, there's protests and everyone

00:52:30.480 whines about it. Why not take the good things from our culture too? You know,

00:52:34.200 you should be melting in the things that are great. We've come up with a lot of

00:52:37.100 freaking great stuff. They have no problem melting in our, you know, our medical

00:52:40.260 innovations. They have no problem melting in our, you know, uh, technological

00:52:44.560 innovations, but like culture makes people, uh, feel stress and strife and anger and

00:52:52.940 protectionism and all of those things. And you shouldn't, I mean, really you pick and

00:52:58.460 choose the things you like, you know, there's like guacamole is really freaking

00:53:01.620 popular in the United States. I hate it. Me too. I think it's, I can't, I can't

00:53:05.140 imagine someone wanting to put this green mushy thing in their mouth. It's just, if

00:53:09.980 it touches something that I eat, I want to throw the thing out to me. That's, that's

00:53:14.140 how hard I am on guacamole. But again, like it's a good, a lot of people like it, you

00:53:19.780 know, and it's a positive thing that we're able to, to have this new product

00:53:23.320 that, you know, a lot of people like, that's a, that's a great part about

00:53:25.880 America. That is something that we've gotten away from because now people are

00:53:31.380 trying to come here and protect their old culture here and say, I don't stop

00:53:36.340 touching my culture. The point of this was to melt together. Yeah. You know, not to

00:53:40.180 put us all in different, uh, kitchenware. I'm going to say the guacamole thing is not

00:53:43.680 a good thing though. No, that's obviously terrible. It's awful. I hate guacamole. If you

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00:54:18.160 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program. With Pat, Stu, and Jeffy this week

00:54:24.640 for Glenn. 888-727-BECK. Uh, the Me Too movement continues to, uh, swim along quite

00:54:32.320 nicely. And, uh, you know, make sure that people don't work. And I mean, and that's

00:54:38.960 fine if, if people have actually committed egregious, um, crimes.

00:54:45.320 You mean like one of the founders, Asia Argento, who is apparently now getting thrown out of

00:54:50.460 her jobs? Uh, which is interesting. That's an interesting development.

00:54:55.020 That is interesting. Yeah. Uh, you know, I, it's, I don't know how to handle this stuff

00:55:01.380 because when you have a legal system, right? What you do is in advance of the trial, you

00:55:06.940 have laws on the books and then people know what those laws are. And then when you go in

00:55:10.340 and you have a trial and you're found guilty there on the books is a range of punishment,

00:55:14.060 which would be, uh, applied to the person who committed the crime.

00:55:18.120 So you're saying after the, after you have say, I don't know, uh, presented evidence and

00:55:23.860 a jury has perhaps said that there's enough evidence to say, yes, you're guilty. And, and

00:55:30.860 then after that, there's some consequences.

00:55:33.020 Yes. That is what I would. Before that's what happens. Cause those people, you're, you're

00:55:37.620 a bad person. Okay. So, so just the accusation is enough to say you're a bad person. You need 0.99

00:55:44.140 to get out of your job. And that seems to be where we are now. So you get the, you feel

00:55:47.960 the punishment right away. You lose all of your jobs, you lose your company, you lose everything,

00:55:52.100 whether you did it or not. And again, it is certainly just for people like, let's say Harvey

00:55:58.300 Weinstein who did a lot of terrible things. However, on that same front, you should actually

00:56:04.820 be convicted of a crime before the punishment gets associated with you. And we've jumped

00:56:12.080 the gun on that one. And we now believe the person should get punished immediately. And

00:56:15.820 with someone of Weinstein, it's easy. We all suspect that he really did all these things

00:56:19.880 and it seems overwhelmingly, there's an overwhelming amount of evidence, including his own words on

00:56:24.120 tape that, that indicate that. Uh, so, you know, no one really cares on that one. But

00:56:29.500 when it comes to someone like Louis CK is, is a good example of this. Louis CK was part

00:56:35.240 of the me too movement. And if you remember the story, basically he did things to himself

00:56:41.740 in front of women after he asked them if it was okay. Yeah. Awkward. Right. I mean, as

00:56:48.000 you'd expect from Louis CK, very awkward. Yeah. Can I do this in front of you? Just like, well,

00:56:52.600 one of the stories even was that one girl remembered that he asked and I said, no. And

00:56:58.860 so it didn't happen. So it didn't happen. Right. Yeah. So she said no. Amazingly. And

00:57:02.520 he didn't do anything. Yeah. Right. Right. Now the other system said yes. And now they're

00:57:07.300 still complaining about it. Right. Well, if you didn't want him to do that, then you should

00:57:10.780 have said no. Right. And then if he continued, you'd have a case. Yes. If he does. Now

00:57:17.160 what we have. And from my understanding is that there's no allegation that he ever did

00:57:20.640 that against their will. Yeah. I don't. Is that true? I don't know if some of, I don't

00:57:24.960 know if any of them said that. I don't remember any of them saying that. I mean, it's creepy

00:57:28.180 what he was doing. Yes. Very creepy. But he did ask for permission and seemingly permission

00:57:34.100 was granted. Yeah. Or I think one of, there was one group of women. Some were saying that 0.99

00:57:37.380 they didn't say anything. They didn't say anything and they just kind of laughed at him.

00:57:40.420 Right. Because he said, I'm going to take my clothes off now. Okay. And they kind of

00:57:43.660 uncomfortably and then stayed. He takes his clothes off and they're so upset. They don't

00:57:49.920 leave. Well, now their argument here, he's a comedian and he's a comedian and he's powerful

00:57:54.460 and famous. Now this is some of these have all power over people. Cause I wasn't aware

00:57:59.140 of this up until this point. Well, comedians have this extraordinary power over. How are

00:58:05.540 you still working? I don't know. Well, I guess you could argue. I mean, again, I think their

00:58:09.900 argument is poor here, but their argument is he does have power in the world of being

00:58:14.660 a comedian. And these were people who were trying to rise the, like, you know, like Jerry

00:58:18.540 Seinfeld certainly has some impact. At the time he was doing a TV show. He was doing other

00:58:22.460 stuff. He had deals with Netflix. Those are all gone. But at the time he did. So he did

00:58:27.580 have some kind of power. Right. Like you have power. Like, you know, if, would you say, you

00:58:31.780 know, uh, Jerry Seinfeld has, could have an influence on a young comedian's career. I mean,

00:58:36.380 the, the answer is of course the answer is yes. Certainly. Were these all young comedians

00:58:39.340 that he did this in front of? I know at least a few of them were. Um, you know, there was

00:58:42.960 one, there was one who said, uh, that, I mean, even talk about a, a, a, a, a weak

00:58:49.840 allegation. The allegation, again, these are just such weird topics. The allegation was

00:58:57.160 that she, Louis CK got on the phone with a woman and the woman during the call suspected,

00:59:08.120 believed, believed. He never said he was, but suspected that he was masturbating while 0.90

00:59:13.200 on the phone with her. Oh my gosh. Now there was no confirmation of that, but that's what 0.98

00:59:17.260 she thought was going on. And that was a me too allegation. And he was so powerful that

00:59:22.420 she could not hang up. I guess so. Okay. There you go. I mean, let's, let's, let's be

00:59:28.140 honest. He did not ask for permission. Well, he's on the phone. He didn't say he was doing

00:59:33.100 it either. No, she just believed it. She just believed it. Right. So the idea is, okay,

00:59:37.480 well, Louis CK could then go to some manager and say, anybody who's been on the phone with

00:59:42.780 that guy could say, yeah, I believed he was pleasuring himself when we were on the phone

00:59:47.080 and I'm really offended by that. And I, I, I think, I think for all of my stress, I need

00:59:53.320 like three and a half million dollars. No, you don't want, no, I don't want to seem greedy

00:59:58.360 2 million. So their argument is okay. Well he could behind the scenes say, you know what?

01:00:04.120 I just don't like her work. I don't like, I don't think she's a good comedian. And then

01:00:07.040 she might not advance in her career. Hey, of course, a lot of times comedians will say, you

01:00:12.080 know, anybody will say that if they feel a lot of people feel inaccurately that others

01:00:16.100 have thwarted their careers, right? A lot of people say, well, this person's keeping me down.

01:00:21.260 It's a very human instinct to believe that unless you have real evidence of someone doing it,

01:00:25.460 it's hard to, to, to, to take anything from it. So, and there was very little of that with

01:00:30.500 Louis CK. I think one person, I think may have said that if I remember correctly.

01:00:33.740 I was, I was headed in the opposite direction. I think a few of them were saying that, uh, they,

01:00:39.020 it seemed like, uh, he did things to help them. Right. Like it was like awkward and he,

01:00:44.100 because of the awkward situation, he actually tried to assist them in their career. So,

01:00:47.940 so Louis CK for the first time now has come out and done a comedy set, um, at, uh, in New York.

01:00:56.780 Um, was it the comedy seller? Was it the comedy seller? It was, it was one of those smaller clubs.

01:01:00.940 115 people were there not knowing he was coming. So, you know, and comedy seller in Carolines in

01:01:06.400 New York, the few clubs like that are famous for big time comedians popping out out of nowhere.

01:01:12.640 You're just there for a normal show. Practice their new set. Yeah. Practice their new set,

01:01:16.020 try out some new material and then leave. So out of nowhere, Louis CK comes out for his first public

01:01:21.120 appearance, does a normal comedy, does not mention. Standing ovation. Standing ovation before he even

01:01:24.840 starts. Does not, uh, mention the scandals at all. Just does his little routine, try some stuff out

01:01:30.800 and leaves. There was apparently one call from a patron of the concert, of the appearance said,

01:01:36.980 I wish I would have known in advance so I could have made the decision whether I wanted to come or not.

01:01:40.480 Um, you know, which, you know, I guess I can understand, uh, though I bet they would have

01:01:46.440 no trouble filling the, the, uh, the room. Yes. And I just think this is an issue when you don't

01:01:51.480 use the justice system. There's no punishment that has been allocated already. Like we saw

01:01:58.360 Glenn Thrush, uh, from the, was the New York Times and he's been at Politico and a bunch of

01:02:02.560 different things, you know, left wing sort of white house type reporter who also got a me too

01:02:08.460 allegation against him. The allegation against him was that after late night parties, he would

01:02:14.120 often hit on younger employees, uh, of the, you know, uh, of the papers he was working for. And

01:02:20.640 again, he was a, these are people who want to get into journalism. He's an important, powerful

01:02:25.260 journalist and there was no accusation that he actually forced anyone to do anything. The accusation

01:02:32.300 was that he should have known better to not fraternize with the younger workers. So, and

01:02:40.360 what happened with him is he's back working. You know, he did not seem to have, he did lose,

01:02:45.840 he was suspended I think for a while, but I think he's back now working, but there's no set punishments

01:02:51.040 because there's no legal system here, right? We've decided to go around the legal system.

01:02:54.920 Right. And we decided that these things should be educated in our own minds. What do we think

01:03:01.400 Louis CK did? What do we think Glenn Thrush did? What do we think, you know, uh, Kevin Spacey

01:03:06.640 did? And we will allocate those as it comes. Uh, was it Jeffrey, uh, Tambor had a me too

01:03:13.560 allegation. He seems to have felt no repercussions about it at all. After this, he was in the death

01:03:19.200 of Stalin. He, you know, he was, uh, you know, people, I don't know, do people just believe him 0.92

01:03:24.680 because he would, you know, cause he's on the right side of things possible. Yeah. You know,

01:03:29.640 maybe it doesn't seem to be a real obvious pattern here. Is it wrong for Louis CK to now be able to come

01:03:37.520 back and talk about the things that he thinks are funny in front of people? Well, I mean, I think

01:03:42.140 the answer to that is if people don't show up, he should probably stop doing it. If he, you know,

01:03:46.580 he'll, he'll be, if people aren't interested in hearing what he wants to say, then he can't be

01:03:51.540 a standup comedian anymore because people don't want to hear him. And that is a, you know, a market

01:03:56.880 based job. If people like your comedy, they come and you get to do it for a living. If they don't

01:04:03.080 and you suck and they don't come, then you don't. So I, the, the outrage here that we, we have to 0.99

01:04:10.120 allow, um, you know, we have to make sure that he never gets in front of people again and he has to

01:04:15.600 be punished till the end of time. It's kind of a, it's kind of a crazy instinct. You know,

01:04:20.660 I, I don't know. Maybe it's almost as if we're addicted to outrage.

01:04:25.880 Is this your job this week? This is Jeffy. No, I've come up with it with a, a useful

01:04:31.460 job for Jeffy. You're looking at the stupid poster the whole time right across from me for the 0.99

01:04:37.400 addicted to outrage. For those of you listening on radio, that's all I see. Yeah. I look at Stu, 1.00

01:04:41.700 I see the glut back. Well, it is coming out soon. So you can buy that. But I guess that's

01:04:46.080 in some ways is, is tied to that. Right. I mean, we have, we all act as if we're perfect

01:04:51.880 and we're all, we all act as if we've never made a mistake and we all act as if we can just

01:04:56.120 slam everybody who has had their public issues. When in reality, like there has to be, and this

01:05:02.600 is, I think part of the job of people who really support the Me Too movement and think its work

01:05:07.600 is important. And a lot of it is that you have to, you have to take a stand as someone in the Me Too

01:05:13.480 movement to say this particular claim is bull crap. This particular claim doesn't rise to the level of 0.96

01:05:19.520 what we're talking about. Right. You know, the fact that there's a, there's a, a statement made by

01:05:23.960 someone that's a little bit sexualized or, I mean, who was the guy? Was it Amazon? I think it's the

01:05:29.360 Amazon guy who was at a party. He was one of the heads of Amazon development, I think, or I think it

01:05:35.260 was Amazon, not Netflix, but it was one of the big streaming providers. And he went to a party and

01:05:39.120 he said some offensive things to a woman at a party. He was hitting on her. And, and that was,

01:05:43.980 I think the only allegation that he was inappropriate in conversation at a drunken Christmas party.

01:05:50.720 And like, that is something, you know, if you look back at, to, at the office, the show,

01:05:56.280 things like that happened all the time and it's not appropriate, but like that person would just

01:06:01.680 have a, people would think he's a dirt bag or people would say, do you believe he did this

01:06:05.460 once? But now he doesn't seem to do that anymore. And it would kind of blow over. And now we have

01:06:10.440 to make sure they're fired. We have to make sure they pay some public penance. And he was,

01:06:14.680 and he was, he did wide up, you know, I think he resigned. Yeah. I think he resigned under pressure

01:06:18.140 is what actually happened. I mean, who among us haven't been drunk at a Christmas party and

01:06:22.060 started hitting on? I mean, think about quite a few of us. Who among us? It's quite a few. I mean,

01:06:27.740 quite a few of us. Certainly Jeffy would, if these standards were around in, you know,

01:06:33.700 the 1830s when Jeffy was coming of age, I mean, I can't even imagine what would have happened to

01:06:38.940 him. But you know, look, there is, there should be some level, most, I don't know what, I don't

01:06:45.520 know what the percentage is, but I bet there's half of people wind up meeting their significant

01:06:49.980 other at work. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I'm guessing it's probably a high percentage,

01:06:53.620 probably a high percentage, right? I mean, you have, or, and then if you want to add in

01:06:57.260 people who are at bars that have been drinking, you're even higher, right? I mean, like you,

01:07:03.640 that, that shouldn't mean if you, if you do something inappropriate, and many women made 1.00

01:07:07.820 this argument around the Me Too point when that was really happening, is that, you know,

01:07:12.020 that's part of what I want. Like, I want there to be some available level of sexuality that,

01:07:20.180 that is, that is able to be expressed by someone I'm trying to court. If not,

01:07:27.260 I mean, you know, there has to be some sort of. Well, we have to realize that no means no,

01:07:31.240 right? A hundred percent. And so when, when, uh, uh, you know, when you start bashing Louis CK,

01:07:37.660 remember he asked. Right. He asked. And that's the thing. It's gone from no means no to don't ask.

01:07:43.840 Yeah. Yeah, it has. And you know, that is a. Don't flirt. Don't ask. Don't ask. Don't show interest.

01:07:49.420 Don't look. Don't certainly don't touch. Um, so how do men and women ever like together again? 0.67

01:07:57.600 You know, to ask fundamentally, how does the species continue? Yeah. At some point in every

01:08:02.940 relationship, you go in for your first kiss. Rarely do you, are you saying, Hey, do you mind? Do you

01:08:09.620 mind signing this contract that allows me to, for my lips to touch yours? Like, that's not how it

01:08:14.380 happens. You know, and there are people who misjudge it, right? Like, I mean, I've always

01:08:19.880 been on the case of, of being such a wuss that you wait way too long. And eventually it's so obvious 0.91

01:08:26.180 that you, it's time to go for it. That's, that's what I waited till because, you know, I'm a loser, 0.95

01:08:30.340 but you know, not everybody's that way. Sometimes people call it wrong, you know, sometimes. And that

01:08:35.860 shouldn't be, that can be something where we say, Hey, you know, that's inappropriate at this place.

01:08:40.580 Hey, don't do that anymore. No, I'm not interested. Thank you.

01:08:43.660 Then the person absolutely needs to stop. But, you know, we have, there has to be some room for

01:08:49.700 men and women and maybe men and men and women and women to do the little dance. Yeah. That's, 0.73

01:08:54.700 that is part of it. That's not Harvey Weinstein, but it is part of it.

01:08:58.900 888-933-93 or 888-727-BECK. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Thank you. Pat's doing Jeffy for Glenn.

01:09:08.940 Pat's doing Jeffy for Glenn. Yeah. You can subscribe to The Blaze at theblaze.com

01:09:12.960 slash TV and listen to Pat Gray Unleashed, which happens every day. We have also the news and

01:09:19.040 why it matters. I'm going to be filling in for TV again for Glenn tonight. We've got some pretty

01:09:24.040 interesting stuff on socialism and the new wave of it. We saw a big election last night where a

01:09:28.760 socialist in Florida was able to beat out some, some pretty well-funded competition. Yeah. For the

01:09:35.180 Democrats. As the Democrat party just keeps going more and more extreme. Yeah. Every day. It's such a weird,

01:09:39.780 I'm not surprised they're getting more extreme and being more overt about it. I'm just surprised

01:09:43.440 with Venezuela going on. Yeah. This is the time they've picked to do it. I mean, that's the DNC

01:09:47.580 chair. Perez already said that's the future. Future of the party. Future of the party.

01:09:51.060 Future of the future. Amazing. More in a second. It's Pat. It's Stu. It's Jeffy for Glenn.

01:09:58.620 Glenn back. It's Pat, Stu, and Jeffy for Glenn. Yesterday we were talking, I think it was around

01:10:04.700 this time. We were talking about a case in Utah with civil asset forfeiture. This is something

01:10:10.740 that's come up from time to time recently because it's one of the most incredible and most egregious

01:10:18.520 violations, I think, of the U.S. Constitution that I've seen in my lifetime. And we continue to get

01:10:25.880 these stories. Yesterday we talked to you about the Utah Highway Patrol, which pulled over a guy

01:10:30.580 named Kyle Savely in Utah. And he had, there was a drug dog that apparently had a hit on something

01:10:43.860 in his car that smelled like drugs, but they found no drugs. So there weren't drugs there. They

01:10:48.640 charged him with nothing. He's never been charged. And this happened two years ago. What they did find

01:10:54.140 was $500,000 in cash, which they helped themselves to. They took it. And yeah, it's, it's nice. It's a

01:11:01.020 nice little score for the Utah Highway Patrol. No kidding. Um, and I think they have to share that.

01:11:05.940 They're trying to decide now how, who, how to divvy up the cash between the federal government and the

01:11:10.680 state government. Not the person. I think not the person. They didn't rule he was supposed to get

01:11:15.040 it back. Fortunately, the Utah Supreme Court ruled that he needed to get it back, which has not,

01:11:19.680 it still hasn't happened. Now you might suspect that a guy who's carrying $500,000 in cash with him

01:11:28.600 did something wrong to get that money, but we don't know that he did. And it's not illegal to

01:11:34.420 carry $500,000 in cash with you. Maybe he's on his way to pay cash for a house. I don't know.

01:11:39.820 Yeah, but that, he obviously was doing something wrong. Maybe it's not illegal.

01:11:43.500 Well, prove that.

01:11:44.200 That's the thought.

01:11:45.100 Prove that.

01:11:45.560 That's where you do. That's what you do. Yeah. You prove it. I mean, cause like, let's say,

01:11:49.260 let's just say, for example, uh, you went and you pulled this person over and, uh, you took the

01:11:54.500 money and you looked around the car and you didn't find anything. And then later on and, you know,

01:11:59.520 as the investigation continued, eventually you found that he was a drug dealer and, and he was

01:12:04.920 absolutely, this was all dirty money and you charged and you charged him. Okay. You arrested him and you

01:12:09.580 charged him with a crime. Right. Um, would that be just now the outcome would be just right. Yeah.

01:12:16.720 The outcome of it. We're happy that a person committing a crime goes to prison, but if you

01:12:21.820 get it through a way that is wrong, usually those things don't stand up in court. Right. Right. You

01:12:27.880 can't just go be like, if we could run, if, if the, you know, the police department would go house to

01:12:32.440 house and look around everybody's house, they'd probably find something illegal. Certainly if they

01:12:35.540 got to Jeffy's house, they'd find many things and they better have a warrant. Yeah. Right. But that's

01:12:39.260 the thing. Well, that's what we have, right. A warrant. You got to get a warrant. You can't just walk in

01:12:43.140 and look for crimes. You have to have a suspicion of the crimes. That's legitimate. Now. I mean,

01:12:47.240 this, the dog thing is really pushing that standard. Honestly. I mean, the fact that a dog

01:12:52.080 smells something, I know some of these, you know, the dog sniffing dogs are not perfect. Well,

01:12:58.220 and again, uh, with $500,000 in cash, uh, we know for a fact that most of our money have some kind of

01:13:07.200 drugs on it. Yeah, that's right. That's true. The dogs are smell. If they get a, a hint of some

01:13:12.980 kind of drug on the money, on the money. Yeah. You can, I think, make the argument that a dog

01:13:18.200 sniffing something is justification to search for something in the car. Sure. But when you find

01:13:23.580 something legal in the car, you don't get to take it. Yeah. Right. Like if you find a great stereo

01:13:27.360 system in the back, you don't get to help yourself to that because the guy smelled drugs, the dog

01:13:30.820 smelled drugs. Yeah. And that's the same thing with money. Money is property. Money is not illegal to

01:13:35.600 carry with you. No. I, when did this start in America that you can't have a large sum of cash

01:13:41.640 with you on a trip? Yeah. That's, it's madness. And we occasionally will hear, I mean, it seems to

01:13:47.720 be more and more frequent where we hear stories like this, where someone's carrying around a large

01:13:51.060 portion of their money with them. Sometimes it's someone coming from the restaurant to the bank,

01:13:55.860 right? And they're carrying, you know, 10, $15,000. Happened to that pizza guy. Yeah.

01:13:59.640 They took his savings. They took that. But beyond that, how many times is this happening where

01:14:06.080 they're taking a thousand dollars or $500? We're not going to get stories about that. Yeah. How

01:14:10.420 many times happens a lot? Yeah. And would you fight it? I mean, the bottom line is they found

01:14:14.000 nothing and they took your thousand dollars. You're really going to bother going to court to get a

01:14:17.120 thousand dollars back. It's going to cost you a thousand dollars to miss work. You're going to,

01:14:21.220 you're going to want it being more than it would take, you know, in lawyer fees to get the money back.

01:14:26.220 And you mentioned us not taking a stereo, but in some cases they would take the stereo. Yeah.

01:14:32.540 I mean, we're, we're seeing where they take cell phones and keys and key fobs and everything else.

01:14:37.080 Well, listen to this story we just found from West Virginia. This happened on June 9th.

01:14:42.980 West Virginia state police trooper issued Demetrius Patlius a warning for failing to drive within his

01:14:50.940 lane. So, uh, they pull the guy over. He wasn't driving within his lane and they, the officer

01:15:01.260 finds $10,000 in cash that he and his wife have on them. Now his wife is about eight months pregnant

01:15:11.220 and they were headed to the Hollywood casino in Jefferson County. They were going to go gamble.

01:15:16.800 So they had some cash on them. They'd capitalized on several promotional offers and had 13 and 14

01:15:24.700 respectively between them, uh, $100 gift cards on them along with the cash. Okay. So if they had

01:15:32.060 $1,400 gift, they had another $1,400 in gift cards there. Um, the, uh, well, no. And then they got

01:15:39.720 $1,300, $2,700 worth of gift cards. So the officer who pulled them over started accusing

01:15:48.980 them of smuggling cigarettes, having drugs in the car, uh, gift card fraud, uh, and searched

01:15:58.500 the car, searched the couple. He gets to search because he accused them, right? He accused them.

01:16:05.100 He can search. I don't. Yeah. Where's the probable cause here? Searched her purse and then finally

01:16:12.360 let them go with a uniform warning citation. He just gave them a warning and charged them

01:16:18.140 with nothing. He found nothing. Well, except for $10,478 in cash, which he took. And then,

01:16:25.320 uh, I guess they had a total of 78 gift cards in the car. He took those as well.

01:16:31.280 That's amazing. What in the, how is this possible that you can take, just take their property from

01:16:40.780 them? I mean, the gift cards obviously didn't come from a drug deal. What is this Sinaloa cartel

01:16:46.780 now paying in gift cards? Maybe, maybe they might be, and that might be a way, and that may be a way,

01:16:55.260 a way for them to, to wash their money and clean their money, which is, you know, it's obviously

01:17:01.220 could be. So now they're broke, but he left them with $2. He left them with $2. Not even like a 20

01:17:08.340 so they can get gas or something. No, nothing. Didn't charge them with a crime. And I didn't find

01:17:12.700 anything. They've been charged with nothing. And yet they lost their $10,478 in their 78 gift cards.

01:17:19.820 And I think the argument, uh, from the police side would be most of the time we find out that

01:17:25.620 these things are right. Most of the times we're right. I just don't think that justifies it.

01:17:29.860 It doesn't. It doesn't justify. It doesn't. You know, the bottom line is even if you, this person,

01:17:36.000 let's say they find out later on that they are dealing with, with drug dealers, that does not

01:17:40.900 justify taking their stuff before you have evidence of it. Yeah. It just doesn't.

01:17:46.500 We got to stop this. I don't know how, but somehow this has to be stopped this. If we are still

01:17:54.660 living in America, this just is, it's unacceptable. It can't happen anymore. And you know that we

01:18:00.740 talked about yesterday about being, uh, you know, because they're short of money and they even talk

01:18:05.080 in the story. I mean the County in West Virginia gets 90% of the proceeds and the state gets 10% of

01:18:11.000 it. So they, I mean, they're making it. So the police officers, uh, find it easier to take

01:18:18.240 the money from you cause they can. And then once they get it, what happened is, if the, if the,

01:18:26.120 if they start proceedings, if the assistant district attorney start proceedings on this

01:18:31.960 process, then you have to go prove that it's yours and that you didn't do anything wrong.

01:18:36.200 You have to prove that it's yours. And if you did anything wrong, it's completely un-American. 0.87

01:18:41.440 Right. But if they don't start proceedings and they, you can get it back, you can go to them

01:18:46.900 and they can decide, well, we're not going to start proceedings and they can, they'll give it back to

01:18:50.320 you. Once they start proceedings, you got to go through the whole process, which is where you

01:18:54.160 decide it's not worth it for 500 bucks and a stereo. That's, it really is incredible. And you know,

01:19:01.800 the fact that people aren't outraged by this more often is surprising. You know,

01:19:07.140 Jeff, he keeps bringing up addicted to outrage, uh, Glenn's new book, but it's like, this is a good,

01:19:11.500 this is a good reason for outrage. Like not all outrage is bad. You just shouldn't be addicted to

01:19:15.560 it and getting and going crazy over every little thing. Correct. This is a real problem. Can you

01:19:20.600 imagine if this happened to you? Can you imagine if you had a situation like this? It wouldn't be good

01:19:26.280 because I probably be arrested or worse because I would go absolutely nuts. I, can you imagine the

01:19:34.060 injustice you would feel if you hadn't done anything wrong? You're just carrying money with you. You're

01:19:39.180 on your way to the casino. You're on your way to buy a car. You're on your way. Uh, in one case, a guy

01:19:44.840 had $91,800 to go buy a, uh, sound studio and, uh, they took that money from him. That was three years

01:19:54.140 ago. He still hasn't gotten it back. I mean, that's your, for most people's going to be, you

01:19:58.880 know, their life savings. I think of the amount of work you put in to be able to put that amount

01:20:03.400 of cash away to purchase something that you've always dreamed about happening. And then they,

01:20:08.300 they, they just rip it away from you for nothing. Again, if there's a crime committed,

01:20:11.480 that's a different story. You know, if it's, if there's a crime committed and you can prove that

01:20:15.160 those funds came from that, uh, from that crime, you have a, you have a situation where there's

01:20:20.000 something valid to look at, but there's no burden of proof here. There's no burden of,

01:20:23.600 of even probable cause in a lot of these cases. I mean, what's a probable cause when a guy's got

01:20:29.000 a lane violation and then you suddenly take every penny they have, well, not every penny,

01:20:33.600 but he thought that they were trafficking in gift cards. That's not enough. Yeah, that's not enough.

01:20:40.740 Trafficking in gift cards. It's an interesting business. How's that work, Jeffy? You know,

01:20:43.780 everything I know, everything, you know, more about crime than anyone I know. I'm just, I do know

01:20:47.660 that that's, I have read articles where that's how they're starting to, uh, you know, ideas of how to

01:20:52.260 clean money. So if you have a bunch of cash, you buy gift cards and then you send the gift cards

01:20:57.120 across the border or whatever, and then people can use them on Amazon, whatever you want, or you

01:21:01.720 get your, or, you know, some places like might give you money. And do we now know that you had a gift

01:21:06.300 card, a hundred dollars, I give you 75 bucks for the gift card. Good for both of us. Right. Is the

01:21:12.200 Gulf cartel, uh, dealing in a lot, a lot in gift cards now? Do we know that a lot of these drug

01:21:18.140 tracks at transactions wind up in gift cards? I don't, I'm advised not to answer.

01:21:28.220 I, I just, I, at some point we have to make this into a story. It seems like when we bring them up,

01:21:34.580 the audience gets pretty fired up about them. Uh, it just, it doesn't seem to have the, I guess

01:21:40.120 because it's just happening to a small amount of people. Um, but that's the type of liberty that

01:21:45.060 you have to fight for. Right. Well, you know, they're trying, right. And this story, it even

01:21:48.620 talks about, uh, the West Virginia state house, uh, judiciary committee considered a bill that

01:21:53.640 would tie civil asset forfeiture to its respective criminal proceedings, which means, you know, if

01:21:59.000 you're acquitted criminally, the seized property can't be forfeited. They didn't, don't worry about

01:22:04.100 it. We're going to let that bill die. Wait, wait, hold on. So they're still taking it. So they're 0.83

01:22:07.940 taking it, even if that they're acquitted, they go through the trial, they get, they're acquitted of

01:22:12.760 the charges and they still take it. They still can now. Yeah. Yeah. Cause the bill failed. How

01:22:19.200 does the bill fail in that, in that case? I don't understand. I mean, here's some of the

01:22:23.560 things. Well, these people weren't even charged and they took it. Yeah. So like I said, if they

01:22:26.700 started, if the district attorney starts procedures saying that, uh, you know, this was, this was

01:22:32.060 property that we seized, then you have to go in and fight it to prove you don't go in and fight

01:22:38.680 it's yours. After so many days, they just take it. It's just, it's gone. And here's the

01:22:44.120 county in West Virginia has already auctioned off certain things that they've obtained from

01:22:49.920 people that they've confiscated. Right. Get like, listen to this list. A Nintendo Wii with

01:22:55.860 controllers. Okay. Was that done in a drug deal? Right. I mean, you were joking about

01:23:00.580 stereo. Yeah. Shoes, jumper cables, a Mickey mouse watch, a jogging stroller, Legos and other

01:23:08.660 toys. Why would you take Legos from someone's car? It's unbelievable. You're taking Legos

01:23:14.540 from people? Wow. That is really amazing. We're taking it all. We're taking the cash and

01:23:19.160 we're taking everything else. It's pretty bad. It strikes me as a similar issue to the,

01:23:23.840 the Kelo case. Uh, and they made a movie about it called little pink house recently in new

01:23:27.940 London where, you know, this woman built her little dream house near the water. And you

01:23:32.700 know, the, the town said, well, we want to bring Pfizer in here. So, uh, you guys are all

01:23:36.720 going to, we're going to buy your houses from you. And she's like, I'm not leaving.

01:23:39.520 And then they did eminent domain and they took her house and it went to up to the Supreme 0.79

01:23:43.940 Court. The Supreme Court in one of the worst decisions I think ever given, uh, sided with

01:23:49.360 the town and allowed her, uh, for just, you know, wow, it's helping the tax base. So therefore

01:23:54.340 it's good for the people to get rid of these houses, which of course would justify almost

01:23:58.140 anything. Justify almost anything. You can always come up with a projection that's going

01:24:01.680 to help the tax base. But the reaction to that ruling was pretty swift and pretty strong.

01:24:07.560 I think over 40 States passed constitutional amendments or laws in their States to prohibit

01:24:13.220 the government from doing that in, uh, in cases like this, where it's just business reasons.

01:24:18.980 Like, I mean, there's always going to be something for, you know, a highway or that the eminent

01:24:22.460 domain is, you know, we all know that that's part of it, but you know, for things like this,

01:24:26.840 where you're just bringing, well, we want to give it to a business instead of you.

01:24:29.680 That has been out. I think it's 42 States have passed things to stop that. And that's

01:24:33.340 the type of action that needs to happen here. You know, you need a bunch of people going

01:24:36.880 around and saying, wait a minute, we get that, that at times, you know, law enforcement

01:24:41.640 needs resources. They need these abilities. We're rooting for law enforcement to take out

01:24:44.840 criminals, but you can't just take stuff from people's car and pocket it. And even if they're

01:24:48.880 acquitted, still hold onto it. I mean, it's insanity.

01:24:51.100 And I, and there's no doubt I agree with you, but again, what we talked about in the past

01:24:55.320 too, but they, the, those in support of it talk about, well, look, we,

01:24:58.960 we can hamstring drug dealing networks by leaning on their finances, which can be

01:25:03.820 more effective than the criminal charges. And they also point out that the proceeds

01:25:09.720 can help police buy much needed equipment.

01:25:12.680 That's incredible. They're actually bragging about taking people's stuff to buy

01:25:16.360 stuff.

01:25:16.680 That's it. It's unbelievable.

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01:25:33.640 Did you hear the latest outrage from Cynthia Nixon?

01:25:39.000 No.

01:25:40.040 She's going to be debating de Blasio or not de Blasio Cuomo coming up for the governor's

01:25:45.600 race. She's not, I mean, it doesn't seem all that competitive, but you know, it's been

01:25:48.880 a high profile race. It's New York.

01:25:50.960 She's a celebrity.

01:25:51.980 Right.

01:25:52.280 And this got sent into, with the hashtag addicted to outrage. If you were taking these

01:25:58.140 submissions for the ridiculous things that people get outraged by, and we'd love for

01:26:02.320 you to send some in at world of Stu on Twitter. We have, you know, people now complaining that

01:26:07.780 the, do you remember they took the bars off of the box where the animal crackers were?

01:26:13.200 So they didn't look like they were caged in.

01:26:14.820 Yeah.

01:26:14.840 Well, now they're complaining about that, that that was not far enough. Apparently they left

01:26:17.760 they're outraged that that does not cure that the Nabisco CEO 06, you know, earned 600 times

01:26:24.660 what the average employee earns or something like that.

01:26:27.040 What does that have to do with the animal cracker box?

01:26:28.740 I don't know. I don't know. Or this one, a student yanked a make America great again

01:26:36.500 hat off of another's head and called it a racist and hateful symbol.

01:26:39.920 Yeah.

01:26:40.640 This one though I love is Cynthia Nixon. She is outraged. Why is she outraged? Well, she wants 1.00

01:26:46.080 the debate room to be 76 degrees when the debate happens because apparently is a well-known sexist

01:26:56.400 and it's notoriously sexist to keep a room cold. Oh, now, of course, it is also notorious

01:27:04.720 that if you don't keep a room cold, the people who are on television will start sweating.

01:27:10.520 And so every single debate stage and every single studio since 1960 has been filled with people in cold environments.

01:27:18.380 It's freezing in here all the time. I mean, how do you think? I mean, Jeff, he's not even sweating right now,

01:27:22.260 which is almost impossible to accomplish. That's because it's like 12 degrees in this room right now.

01:27:27.220 Yeah. Yeah. And very cold. So it's not close to 12.

01:27:29.780 Yeah, it's pretty cold. It's pretty cold in here. And that's because you want your you don't people 0.97

01:27:33.720 don't like watching people on TV sweating as they're talking. You know, it's just like ideally

01:27:39.040 you avoid it. You may expect it in an NBA game, but ideally you don't necessarily see that from

01:27:43.800 your anchors, especially with Jeffy since he sweats gravy and that's just unpleasant to look at.

01:27:49.220 Yes, it's not. You know what I mean? I thought we were talking about Coldwell.

01:27:51.480 Right. So Cynthia Nixon is saying that there is a study. There was a study apparently published

01:27:57.320 some time ago in Nature Climate Change in this journal, which said that the office buildings

01:28:02.900 base their climate control fluctuations on the needs of the male metabolism.

01:28:07.860 Since half of the workforce is female, the system is rigged against women who often have

01:28:12.600 colder extremities than their male counterparts. And it's even worse worse for women on the birth

01:28:17.940 control pill, which can raise women's bodies temperatures slightly, making them more responsive

01:28:22.040 to temperature fluctuations. So now we have to be out. Now, look, we all know there's real reasons

01:28:28.300 for that. And I hate the cold. I hate how cold it is in these studios, but I don't think it's

01:28:32.480 they're doing it, you know, to punish me, although Glenn may be.

01:28:35.660 I know I am.

01:28:36.440 But I know. But I mean, the idea is 76 degrees. That's way too hot. That's way too hot. I mean,

01:28:41.620 you just got to dress more warmly, I think. Right. You know, and she knows that. I know it's

01:28:46.080 just trying to make it again. It's not real outrage. It's an addiction to outrage.

01:28:49.600 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:28:56.560 With Pat, Stu, and Jeffy this week for Glenn.

01:28:59.600 Now, yesterday, yesterday we were talking about the potential. And maybe, or maybe I was talking

01:29:06.060 about it on my show on Pat Gray Unleashed. Done so many shows this week, I can't remember

01:29:10.860 which it was.

01:29:11.580 A lot of shows.

01:29:12.080 But Alex Jones was caught in a little bit of a, just kind of a sticky wicket, if you

01:29:19.400 will.

01:29:19.740 A bit of a moment.

01:29:20.600 Yeah. He was showing how to navigate on his website, on InfoWars.

01:29:26.820 Which does seem to be a high percentage of their programming.

01:29:29.200 Yeah, it does.

01:29:29.260 A lot of it is just how do you get to the male vitality formula pills.

01:29:33.200 Because that's how he makes all his money.

01:29:34.840 So, yeah, they spend some time with that. So he's showing how to navigate on his smartphone.

01:29:40.360 And then he taps it, and it goes back to the original screen that had all of his tabs out

01:29:46.240 there.

01:29:46.480 Yeah, it brings like, where you see like nine tabs on the screen at the same time.

01:29:49.880 Mm-hmm. 0.97

01:29:50.840 One of the tabs was a transsexual porn site. 0.99

01:29:59.040 And... 0.99

01:29:59.680 It could happen to anybody.

01:30:00.900 It could happen. 0.99

01:30:01.600 Well, anybody who's surfing for trans porn, yes. 0.91

01:30:05.320 For those of us who don't necessarily frequent those sites, can't happen to you. 0.96

01:30:10.640 Okay?

01:30:11.700 So I thought, okay, well, maybe somebody just went in there, and here's what he's going

01:30:17.520 to say, even if it's not the case.

01:30:19.040 Somebody photoshopped that into his phone.

01:30:20.940 Right.

01:30:21.420 And he says that all the time when there's no evidence of it.

01:30:24.260 Yeah.

01:30:24.380 Why not go with that right defense?

01:30:26.420 Somebody in the deep state photoshopped that.

01:30:29.480 Mm-hmm.

01:30:29.680 And that's not what he said, which is fascinating to me. 0.98

01:30:35.500 Here's instead how he explained his little trans porn site. 0.98

01:30:41.480 And also, what about the trans porn on your phone, Alex? 0.98

01:30:44.480 Are you ever going to talk about that? 0.99

01:30:46.080 Say that again?

01:30:47.340 Say that again. 1.00

01:30:48.180 Trans porn on your phone? 1.00

01:30:50.380 That's all they keep talking about.

01:30:52.560 You know, I saw a couple news articles about that. 0.98

01:30:54.800 It's ridiculous.

01:30:55.420 I was, like, looking up some reporter we're trying to hire today and punched in some number. 0.96

01:30:59.580 It popped up porn on my phone.

01:31:00.900 Everybody's had porn popping on their phones hundreds of times.

01:31:03.380 And so I'm sitting there with a phone on air showing it to everybody because I couldn't

01:31:08.080 get a URL up in the studio.

01:31:09.740 And then, like, something pops up.

01:31:11.520 I'm like, oh, my God.

01:31:12.600 And I looked at it.

01:31:13.500 It wasn't the news blurted out because there was nothing there.

01:31:16.000 They blurted it to then say something was there.

01:31:18.020 Then you went to it with some porn menu.

01:31:19.560 I probably had porn menus pop up 500 times on my phone.

01:31:23.100 So I appreciate your call.

01:31:24.060 Yeah, because you're surfing them.

01:31:25.180 It's insane, ladies and gentlemen.

01:31:26.720 There's two types of people.

01:31:27.880 People that look at porn and people that lie about it.

01:31:30.460 But I wasn't looking at porn on my phone.

01:31:33.480 I don't take phones on air that I look at porn on.

01:31:35.900 And so I saw all that.

01:31:37.940 I didn't respond to it. 0.62

01:31:38.900 I mean, if I respond to half the attacks on me, it'll be ridiculous.

01:31:42.300 But I'll say this.

01:31:43.560 The Amazon ads, the Viagra ads, the weird non-plastic bag ads are taking my iPhone over.

01:31:49.620 iPhones didn't used to be that bad like Android.

01:31:52.280 It's a great point there with the plastic bag ban ads that are taking over.

01:31:56.980 He does seem to be admitting that he looks at porn.

01:31:59.360 Absolutely.

01:32:00.140 That was that phone. 0.92

01:32:00.980 So, like, you know, Alex Jones looking at porn or trans porn is absolutely not the worst thing about him.

01:32:06.920 Like, that's probably one of his better characteristics.

01:32:09.740 So I don't know why that would be a big deal.

01:32:11.500 It's just, you know.

01:32:12.080 The trans community thought it was unusual because he bashes trans people so much.

01:32:16.860 Yeah.

01:32:17.000 And every time there's a trans story, he's, you know, he's raving about it, ranting about it. 0.85

01:32:21.740 And so it's interesting that he's actually looking at trans porn when he's ranting about trans people. 0.87

01:32:27.860 The trans site was excited. 0.96

01:32:30.040 The trans site was very happy.

01:32:31.220 Very happy about it.

01:32:32.360 Yeah.

01:32:33.300 Yes.

01:32:33.920 I mean, isn't the show that he's maybe not as transphobic as you once thought?

01:32:39.120 There you go.

01:32:39.880 And that's probably what he should say.

01:32:41.340 There was a years ago, there was a morning show host in Texas City that I once lived in who got into a traffic accident while leaving a gay bar at two in the morning and then left the scene and went home or whatever.

01:33:04.040 And so it was kind of an issue.

01:33:05.200 And so there's a lot of, you know, and he's a conservative talk show host.

01:33:11.420 And so people were wondering, what were you doing at a gay bar?

01:33:14.860 And he said, well, it shows you I'm not homophobic like they say I am, doesn't it?

01:33:19.300 That was his explanation.

01:33:20.760 So maybe that's a good one for Alan.

01:33:22.640 It's actually a good response.

01:33:23.300 It shows you I'm not transphobic.

01:33:29.620 Oh, man.

01:33:30.460 I'm telling you, it does bode to, you know, one of the things that I live by is clear your search menus.

01:33:37.260 That's what you, one of the things your search.

01:33:39.680 Good safety tip.

01:33:40.420 Thank you, Jeffy.

01:33:41.220 I believe in that 100%.

01:33:41.760 So does this happen to you?

01:33:43.520 Does porn pop up on your phone 500 times?

01:33:48.660 Is that, there seems to be a real issue with your phone.

01:33:51.560 I will say no, that doesn't happen.

01:33:53.780 Especially on an iPhone.

01:33:54.900 I mean, iPhone is like, it's a closed ecosystem.

01:33:57.860 And when I'm looking for reporters, I will say it has never popped up while looking for reporters to hire.

01:34:06.280 Well, is it possible that this particular trans porn star happens to have some journalism chops? 0.89

01:34:12.680 Is it possible she's out covering the tough stories in between porn shoots?

01:34:17.480 I think that's, it is possible.

01:34:19.160 It's possible.

01:34:20.060 Absolutely it is.

01:34:21.360 It's possible.

01:34:22.480 Okay.

01:34:22.860 Let's, let's grant him that.

01:34:24.120 I don't know how much, Alex knows how tough it is to run a website and have people subscribe to it.

01:34:28.820 And that's what that porn person was doing. 1.00

01:34:33.040 Because she, he offered Alex a free pass.

01:34:38.760 Oh, really?

01:34:39.720 Yeah.

01:34:40.240 Yeah.

01:34:40.560 Come on, Alex.

01:34:41.300 If you like it, I'm here for you.

01:34:45.940 I thought it was nice.

01:34:47.720 What an amazing world we live in.

01:34:49.620 It's just an amazing world.

01:34:50.660 So she did actually respond to this and she offered a free pass.

01:34:56.320 That's pretty smart, actually.

01:34:57.660 Yeah.

01:34:57.900 No, you might as well, you might as well jump in there.

01:34:59.920 But I think the days of the, uh, the porn sites all popping up on your screen, which did happen in the past are long gone.

01:35:07.740 Yeah.

01:35:07.860 I think that doesn't happen as much anymore.

01:35:09.560 I do.

01:35:10.500 It certainly doesn't happen 500 times.

01:35:12.400 No, it does not.

01:35:13.600 And, but it does, if, if you don't, uh, if you don't delete your search entry, if you type in a word and it pops, you know, then whatever you've been searching for or bringing up comes up as a reminder.

01:35:26.840 Hey, I'm still here for you.

01:35:30.740 Is that what happens?

01:35:32.180 I mean, I could have, but that's what I understand.

01:35:33.980 It's possible.

01:35:34.700 Somebody has told you about that.

01:35:35.900 Yeah, they've had it happen to him and they related that story to you. 0.92

01:35:39.640 Can you imagine the amount of trans porn being tweeted and sent to Alex Jones? 0.98

01:35:44.360 Oh, man. 1.00

01:35:45.000 Oh my gosh.

01:35:45.600 I mean, it's gotta be, people are probably trolling him constantly with it now.

01:35:49.300 Hey, check out this new conspiracy theory I found, Link. 0.98

01:35:52.280 This guy's gonna be opening up so much trans porn. 0.97

01:35:56.520 I guess that's what happens, you know? 0.99

01:35:58.520 Yes.

01:35:59.060 I, you know, whatever.

01:35:59.900 It's not like we had a high, high opinion of Alex Jones.

01:36:02.900 Wow.

01:36:03.300 If this happened to a pastor while he was on his church, like, that might be notable.

01:36:08.320 Like, the fact that Alex Jones does weird things is the least surprising thing that's ever heard.

01:36:11.580 I mean, it's good for him, right?

01:36:12.300 It's keeping him in the news other than being blocked from, you know, bringing people to his site.

01:36:16.140 And by the way, let's say once again, we're absolutely opposed to Alex Jones being eliminated from all of these sites.

01:36:26.380 Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.

01:36:30.280 Real estate.

01:36:30.820 Put his stuff back up and let the people decide, okay?

01:36:34.760 If they want to see it, they see it.

01:36:38.000 Stop banning people because they have a different point of view.

01:36:42.140 Now, again, Facebook is a private business and so are all the rest.

01:36:45.800 So they can do that if they want.

01:36:46.940 It's just not the right thing to do.

01:36:48.300 Yeah.

01:36:48.780 The interesting part, I think, in this conversation, because I think we all agree that private businesses can do whatever they want. 0.98

01:36:53.700 And we all agree that Alex Jones is trash. 0.97

01:36:57.300 And we all agree that even though Alex Jones is trash, he should still be left on the platform. 0.99

01:37:02.240 Yes. 0.79

01:37:02.500 The interesting addition to this is a lot of these social networks get protections from, you know, legal action because they claim to be, hey, we're just user-generated content.

01:37:15.000 And, you know, we're just a platform, right?

01:37:17.940 Right.

01:37:18.360 And so, like, for example, if someone were to post child porn on Twitter, Twitter doesn't – the employees of Twitter don't go to prison for child porn, right?

01:37:29.780 If someone posts a terroristic threat on Twitter, they then don't, you know –

01:37:37.800 You can't go to Twitter for that and blame them.

01:37:39.860 It's like Twitter's fault, right?

01:37:40.840 Yeah.

01:37:41.080 And they get protections from these situations, as they should, by the way.

01:37:44.120 Or copyright fraud is another one.

01:37:45.740 If someone posts a copyrighted material, then people, you know, if they do it and don't try to take it down, they can get in trouble for it.

01:37:55.160 But generally speaking, if someone just posts something, they'll have a window there to take it down as soon as possible.

01:38:00.340 And it's not like they're going to put Twitter out of business for it.

01:38:02.780 But for that protection, there's a responsibility.

01:38:06.220 Yeah.

01:38:06.360 And their responsibility is to not control the content.

01:38:08.800 Yeah.

01:38:09.080 So they can't be a partisan entity.

01:38:11.320 So you can't be biased.

01:38:12.340 Right.

01:38:12.760 They can't.

01:38:13.880 And they are.

01:38:14.600 And they kind of are.

01:38:15.800 And Ted Cruz has brought this argument up before.

01:38:18.740 So it's a good argument.

01:38:19.760 Yeah.

01:38:20.160 I mean, again, I still think they should be able to to handle their own content.

01:38:25.520 But that, you know, maybe you don't get the same protections.

01:38:28.140 If you want to if you want to go that direction, you want to make it an all liberal social media site.

01:38:32.060 You should, in my view, should be able to create it.

01:38:33.960 If you want to create, you know, you know, liberal dot com and make it all people tweeting to each other about liberal things.

01:38:40.660 Except that's not what you agreed to.

01:38:42.100 That's not what you agreed to.

01:38:42.820 When you got these protections.

01:38:44.800 So you're going to have to change the rule if you want if you want to do it that way.

01:38:48.400 Or we just remove the protection.

01:38:52.360 And you're subject to prosecution when somebody does something on your site.

01:38:57.300 Which is it?

01:38:58.380 What do you want?

01:38:59.900 Yeah.

01:39:00.080 And the easiest thing is just let people decide.

01:39:02.020 Stop.

01:39:02.200 Yeah.

01:39:02.540 Stop.

01:39:03.120 And I think their supposed good motives and the motives of many people in Congress are like, hey, you got to take a responsibility for what's on your site.

01:39:10.840 You need to take responsibility.

01:39:11.660 And they all went in front of Congress and said, you know what we do?

01:39:14.580 This is on us.

01:39:15.540 We need to do better.

01:39:16.780 Not really.

01:39:17.580 No.

01:39:17.840 You really don't need to do better.

01:39:19.660 You don't need to really need to do it.

01:39:21.580 People will click on the things they want to click on.

01:39:23.460 People will like the things that they want to like.

01:39:25.440 It's not your responsibility.

01:39:26.640 Not your responsibility to manipulate what people believe.

01:39:28.980 Even if they believe dumb things or inaccurate things.

01:39:32.220 Even in that circumstance. 0.52

01:39:33.820 When there's other crimes that are committed like threats and child porn and stuff.

01:39:37.520 Yeah.

01:39:37.640 That's your responsibility to get it off as soon as possible.

01:39:40.000 Yeah.

01:39:40.240 But that's different than speech.

01:39:42.660 And you should just leave it up there.

01:39:43.700 So what?

01:39:44.240 Alex Jones wants to say something that's blatantly false over and over and over and over again.

01:39:47.620 So what?

01:39:48.400 We figured it out all these years.

01:39:49.800 Why can't we now?

01:39:51.440 I mean, it's not like I believed in the 9-11 theories to begin with.

01:39:56.300 So what's the big deal now?

01:39:58.880 It's not like I really thought that the Sandy Hook tragedy was a false flag operation.

01:40:06.880 I never believed that.

01:40:08.300 You know, there might have been some people who did.

01:40:10.980 But I think any normal human being knew that that was an actual event that occurred.

01:40:17.120 And a real tragic one.

01:40:18.660 Yeah.

01:40:18.900 And I think we all can agree.

01:40:20.100 One thing that Alex was right on is that everything starts at the Gulf of Tonkin.

01:40:26.020 There's nothing that doesn't start there.

01:40:28.600 That's right.

01:40:29.060 That's where it all started.

01:40:30.780 It is.

01:40:31.620 That is where it all started.

01:40:32.660 The Gulf of Tonkin.

01:40:33.520 Exactly right.

01:40:35.720 You could go back a little bit further to the Rothschilds.

01:40:41.340 Oh, right.

01:40:42.660 If you wanted to.

01:40:43.560 But, you know, we won't go there right now.

01:40:45.100 I don't want to go to high level.

01:40:46.320 Only that's Alex's job.

01:40:47.360 Right.

01:40:48.520 All right.

01:40:49.200 888-727-BECK.

01:40:51.200 Pat, Stu, and Jeffy for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

01:40:55.780 Google needs to be careful.

01:40:58.340 I don't know if you're aware of that.

01:40:59.840 The president told them yesterday that they need to be careful.

01:41:03.380 Because what they're doing isn't fair to the American people.

01:41:07.120 Now, he keeps threatening people with, I guess, censorship?

01:41:12.400 Or I don't know what the threat exactly is to Google here.

01:41:18.400 But they better be careful.

01:41:22.320 You know, all of these warnings about speech are somewhat troubling to me.

01:41:31.620 Well, he's just mad, you know, because the head of Google just told the Senate,

01:41:36.520 some Senate committee that, no, I'm not coming to talk to you.

01:41:42.100 They wanted him to come and talk to them.

01:41:44.060 And he was like, no.

01:41:45.820 This is another, to me, somewhat of an example of the type of story where you have to ask yourself

01:41:50.880 the question, should we cover this?

01:41:52.320 Right.

01:41:52.860 Should we cover it?

01:41:53.440 Is it about a tweet?

01:41:54.460 Well, then the answer is no.

01:41:56.100 Right.

01:41:56.560 Is it about something he said?

01:41:57.720 That's true.

01:41:58.000 Is it about something he said?

01:41:58.760 The answer is no.

01:41:59.940 Because is it about something he did?

01:42:01.940 Then you have something there.

01:42:03.300 If he starts saying, like, okay, we're passing this bill, we're trying to pass this bill,

01:42:07.140 here's what we're doing, that is a legitimate thing to cover.

01:42:09.000 But he just says stuff for the point of hearing his own voice.

01:42:12.220 Right.

01:42:12.360 It's just something that Donald Trump has done his entire life.

01:42:14.520 And this was that soccer World Cup thing where Mexico, United States, and Canada is going

01:42:19.740 to host the World Cup, like, in 2026 or something.

01:42:24.160 And so they were there at the Oval yesterday giving him presents.

01:42:28.240 And he was joking around.

01:42:29.600 You talk about him loving, messing with the press.

01:42:31.620 They gave him a referee wallet with a yellow card and a red card.

01:42:36.320 And he pulled out the red card and joked around about throwing it to the press, you

01:42:40.020 know, giving him the red card, kicking him out of the game.

01:42:42.640 Both sides love that.

01:42:43.520 And they were all loving it.

01:42:44.080 Both sides love that.

01:42:44.900 And that's when they asked him about Twitter.

01:42:46.380 Oh, they better be careful.

01:42:48.700 Right.

01:42:49.660 Should we cover it?

01:42:50.920 He was just hearing himself talk.

01:42:52.120 It's like his way of saying, I don't like this one thing I saw.

01:42:56.220 It's just to say, I might shut down Google.

01:42:58.160 You know what I mean?

01:42:58.420 Like, that's just the way he is.

01:42:59.340 I mean, the Senate committee is mad because the head of Google won't show up.

01:43:03.580 And he knows that.

01:43:04.380 So they're going to be careful.

01:43:05.400 Yeah.

01:43:05.820 And it's not like you can certainly argue that that's not the right way for a presidency to

01:43:10.060 operate.

01:43:10.540 I think I can fairly argue it.

01:43:12.760 But you also have to recognize what is occurring in the world.

01:43:16.280 And you're going to drive yourself crazy if you panic every time Donald Trump tweets something

01:43:20.020 you don't like.

01:43:21.040 He's going to do it probably.

01:43:22.220 If you're in the media, he's probably doing it five times a day.

01:43:25.780 And either you have to get past it and say, well, he's tweeted this sentiment 25 times

01:43:31.160 and has done nothing about it.

01:43:33.040 Maybe we just let this one go by until he starts doing something about it.

01:43:36.460 And then at that point, I mean, I certainly have my support in opposing Donald Trump trying

01:43:41.960 to regulate Google.

01:43:43.360 He has nothing to do with that.

01:43:45.600 Nothing to do with it at all.

01:43:46.660 And he shouldn't.

01:43:47.140 He shouldn't.

01:43:47.560 And you're right.

01:43:48.020 Spend his time worrying about it either.

01:43:49.560 Yeah.

01:43:49.700 He is Mr. Hyperbully.

01:43:51.660 He just he says outrageous things.

01:43:55.100 And yeah, I think we know that by now.

01:43:58.260 Donald Trump is going to continue to say and tweet outrageous things.

01:44:03.240 And then so like 90 percent of those things you just don't worry about.

01:44:07.040 Yeah.

01:44:07.200 O'Reilly was a good rule of thumb.

01:44:08.440 O'Reilly was the first one that sort of talked about that with us when he said just like,

01:44:12.220 yeah, yeah, don't worry about it.

01:44:13.400 Just tweeted it.

01:44:14.080 And you start thinking about it when you when you live your life in that world where nothing

01:44:16.860 he says or tweets means anything.

01:44:18.560 It's a lot easier to understand.

01:44:19.520 And for example, Russia, if you ignore his tweets and what he says, he's pretty tough

01:44:23.120 on Russia.

01:44:23.700 What he's done.

01:44:25.280 It's a better way of looking at it.

01:44:30.780 Glenn Beck.

01:44:32.740 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - August 29, 2018

'Tiny, but Powerful'？ - 8⧸29⧸18

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