'Tiny, but Powerful'? - 8⧸29⧸18
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1 hour and 44 minutes
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194.30585
Summary
Glenn and Stu discuss Trump Derangement Syndrome, fake news, and Antifa, and how they are all connected to racism and white supremacy. They also discuss the growing presence of Antifa in the streets and debate the difference between them and Black Americans.
Transcript
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The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.
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We were just talking about Trump derangement syndrome.
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And there's a couple of terms that circulate through the media all the time.
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And they bug me, and I think they bother you to a certain extent, Stu, because it makes it, I don't know, it just makes it seem like everybody who says anything about the president has Trump derangements.
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I mean, we don't have it, and we complain about some of the things he does.
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Yeah, I mean, the test usually is whether you can find things that you like, right?
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And we've gone through many, many things that we do like that the president has done.
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Even his critics, though, I don't think are always affected with Trump derangement systems.
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Like, if you're a liberal, right, and you see things like Neil Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, you may very well not like those on ideological grounds.
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That doesn't mean you have Trump derangement syndrome.
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That means you just don't like his picks, right?
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There seems to be a different situation going on for some people, though.
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Although, yeah, if there's any location that's infected with supposed Trump derangement syndrome, it's just about everybody at CNN, including Jeffrey Toobin.
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I mean, he's a guy that once in a while makes sense, but not really when it comes to Trump.
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Yeah, there's a sign of the, if you're going to make Trump derangement syndrome into something, there's a sign of it of, like, pulling every issue, no matter how separate from race and hatred, bring all of them to that.
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No matter what it is, whether it's a Supreme Court pick, whether it's a tax decrease, whether it's talking about, you know, North Korea, whatever you can, bring it back to the idea that the reason he's doing X, Y, and Z is because he hates black people.
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Like, it's just going to that same boring analysis, saying every single thing revolves around that one issue.
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And it shows, of course, it reveals your obsession with that issue.
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It reveals your obsession, not ours, but your obsession with skin color, with your obsession with, you know, reproductive organs, your obsession with that.
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That's not something that we want to care about, but you're constantly bringing it up.
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And this is a perfect example from yesterday with Jeffrey Toobin, when he was talking about the president saying how if Republicans lose in the midterms and the Democrats take control of the House, there's going to be violence in the streets.
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And listen to the way Jeffrey Toobin spins that.
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The theme here is, I'm Donald Trump, and I'll protect you from the scary black people.
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So, Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization.
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And this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players.
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And we never say it or we don't say it enough for what it is.
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Okay, Antifa is widely considered just black people?
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Like you said, like we're just saying, Stu, that says more about him than it does Donald Trump.
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Because nobody considers Antifa just black people.
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I consider them hell-bent on chaos and communism.
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But even more than that, we've done a lot of coverage on this group.
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We've, you know, we've done multiple, you know, Glenn's done the week-long chalkboard on them.
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He's done multiple big monologues about them, their history, where they came from.
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First of all, they did not come certainly from African-American roots in any way.
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They came from, you know, it started back in World War II.
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But beyond that, all the videos we've seen of Antifa, I'm not saying there's no black people.
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But I can't think of one picture in my brain of ever seeing a black person in Antifa.
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But I've never, I can't remember ever seeing one.
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They're almost always like the person who you think you're going to bump into Starbucks the next day.
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Some, like, you know, tortured, angsty, you know, 22-year-old who, you know,
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who went to too many communist college courses and now thinks they're going to change the world by throwing things at people.
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I don't think, I don't know that I've ever heard anyone make the point before.
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This is, like, the first time I've ever heard the point that black people are associated with Antifa in some way.
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They're just, I always think of it as like that, like, Seattle, Starbucks-y, you know, angst.
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And you can make an argument when it started, it actually did good things.
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But it's been evolved to, at this point, it's ridiculousness.
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I mean, it's just anything that they don't like.
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And it's agonizing to continually hear the nonsense that everything's about race.
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And, you know, that just diminishes when things are about race.
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When you make everything about race, you've just watered down the actual racism that does exist.
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Certainly not as much as CNN sees it, but I don't think I've ever heard Donald Trump even say anything about Antifa being groups of black people.
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I haven't heard anybody saying it, not just us.
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Like, when you have these issues that pop up with race, it's the left has immersed themselves so completely in this issue.
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And to them, it is like the ultimate equation that solves all math problems.
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You know, it's just, I remember when Barack Obama was going and they talked about an apartment and they said that was racist.
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There's a lot of white people that live in apartments.
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Way more white people live in apartments nationwide than black people do.
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If you use the too much, it's code for black people.
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That's what you mean when you say the word the.
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I'm just so tired of beating around the bush with these people on what they are and who they are.
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When you see race everywhere, when that's all you think of.
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Maybe you should turn that, you know, look in the mirror.
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Yeah, because I think there's an instinct, especially with the older.
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I mean, we used to say this about Chris Matthews.
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Chris Matthews went through a generation in which race was such a big issue for people.
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And it was something that was constantly talked about.
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And, you know, really until Obama kind of got in there and, you know, he was we really came from that perspective of viewing everything through the prism of race.
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You know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour.
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Like you think of when you think of everything in the term of black and white.
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Well, shockingly, everything becomes a black and white issue.
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And, you know, it's the same thing that happens with conspiracy theorists.
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You get in when you get down the road in 9-11 and you get down the road to Sandy Hook and you go down all these things.
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Well, of course, every shooting seems like a false flag to you.
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Every time you see something, you think it's a conspiracy theory with the government.
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And it's the same thing with the left and race.
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It's not just there are actual things just like with conspiracy theories.
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They have done things at times that are really terrible.
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But it's the same thing with this where you have racial issues that are real.
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But when you see everything that way, you can't stop yourself from pulling things that are, you know, 15 lanes over from race back into your lane.
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But it also, like Pat said, that lessens the real racism.
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And that's what the same with, you know, the full Trump derangement syndrome.
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You know, there are times when you want to be against Donald Trump, but you listen to the deranged syndrome people and you're like, OK, well, no, I'm not that bad.
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I mean, in a way that's letting someone else control the way you feel, which I don't like either.
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You know, just because the media says stupid things shouldn't affect my opinion.
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I should be able to come up with my opinion on my own.
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They did this thing a while ago where it was like, you know, 13 of the last 15 people that Donald Trump has called dumb were black.
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Except that seven or eight of them were the same person.
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I think it was something like 10 of 11 or something like that.
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And so and you also to believe this theory, you have to also believe that he was not racist at all until he was elected because he did.
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Before that, he was calling white people dumb all the time, all the time.
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And then for the whole first year of his presidency, he only called one person dumb, Mika Brzezinski, who's white.
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So you have to believe he developed the racism not in his first 71 years, but in the last year.
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And in that last year, he developed the racism all solely based on Maxine Waters and Don Lemon.
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Isn't an easier explanation of that is he doesn't like Maxine Waters and Don Lemon.
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Maxine Waters and Don Lemon have been recently criticizing him.
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And what Donald Trump does in those moments is called them dumb.
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It's just like he called Jeb Bush dumb and Marco Rubio dumb and Tim Cruz dumb.
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He is an opponent and he's, you know, he's liberal at times and I don't.
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But Maxine Waters, I think, pretty clearly is dumb.
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She makes incredibly stupid points all the time.
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She's made a good case for being dumb the last few years, if not her entire life.
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Maybe she's, you know, losing her sharpness as she gets later in life.
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But, I mean, she is tripped up and made really insane comments.
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Hank Johnson comes out and says, Guam's going to tip over.
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Can we not say that he's dumb because he's black?
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White or black, whoever said it, that's a dumb comment.
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You know, Guam's not going to tip over because you put too many military forces on one side
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So, I mean, can we not observe that sometimes people have those moments?
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I had it from a military source who immediately was like, uh, we don't anticipate that happening.
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Taking these things from issues that are not related to race and trying to move them into
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It's the same thing, you know, like the alt-right, largely speaking, the alt-right is a, is a,
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is a small group compared to, uh, you know, conservatives and Republicans and everything
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But when you try to cut, you know, call every single Republican alt-right, you, you fail,
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you, you, you fail because you then weaken the case against people like Richard Spencer,
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Like that theory that his, his theories, I think are a real negative and certainly have
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But when you bring like Mitt Romney and you call him alt-right, it doesn't, there's no,
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there's, there's, you lose all value in your criticism.
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It's Pat, Stu and Jeffy for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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That's, uh, so we got that three day weekend coming up.
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I'm working at home and stuff, but I don't have, uh, you're doing, uh, all the working
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No, but, uh, we, I did the show solo, uh, Monday, Pat, uh, solo Friday.
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And also, uh, yeah, but no, you know, we don't do the, uh, we have got a TV show.
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We have some other stuff going on, but, uh, you'll be here by your, by yourself, except
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for the criminal that you're sitting across from.
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Uh, by the way, uh, news and white matters, uh, happens, uh, tonight and every night.
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And it's a lot of the reason for that is there's been a, a really big reaction to the podcast.
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And it's one of those things that people really like listening to as well as watching.
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So you can watch it on, uh, on demand at any time at the blaze.com slash TV, or go to iTunes
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It's a great review kind of the big stories of the day and, and all of us talking about
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So check that out news and why it matters on iTunes.
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Um, once again, there's a huge effort to try to, uh, end the recitation of, uh, the pledge
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of allegiance in public schools and it's the same guy this time, rather than being the
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person who brought the lawsuit, he's the attorney for the atheists who brought a lawsuit.
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He's still trying to get rid of the pledge of allegiance.
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Also, we got to talk about the Chicago priest who says the Pope won't be distracted, you
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There is yet another civil asset forfeiture story to tell you about.
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If you listen to this time yesterday, you heard the crazy one in Utah.
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This one's another insane story where people's property just getting taken for no reason.
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So hard to believe that this could continually happen in America.
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Um, and NPR has a really surprising study that they did.
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I, I'm blown away that NPR, first of all, paid attention to it in the first place.
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Secondly, actually reported their findings, uh, because this doesn't seem to fit their
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No, and it's one of those stats that when you hear it, it blatantly fails to you as possible.
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You know, you see, you'll see liberals constantly share these numbers.
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You're just like, is there any moment where you just sit back and say, there's no way that's
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Is there any part of you that gets to that point in your analysis?
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Well, there were supposedly in 2015, 240 school shootings.
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Now, sometimes they get to those numbers in various ways.
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For example, um, a guy, uh, who has no association with a school at midnight feels despondent, leaves
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his home, pulls into the back corner of the school parking lot and shoots himself.
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Well, to any incident with a gun on school grounds, to any, uh, gun hating organization,
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You'll have times where police officers will come and the police officer will mistakenly
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Um, you know, someone, there've been times where pellet guns, some kid will bring in a
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pellet gun and shoot one of his friends and they'll call it a school shooting.
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These are, these are the type of things they go in there to, to juice the numbers because
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However, we know now we don't have to juice the numbers because there was 240 shootings
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And this is a U S department of education report.
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So, you know, it's some credibility, I guess behind it.
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It's not like, you know, it's not mother Jones or, you know, uh, every town for gun safety.
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This was a government report, which people generally speaking will take seriously.
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The year was 2015, 2016, nearly 240 schools reported at least one incident involving a
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NPR God only knows the reason decided to actually check into this, which is amazing in and of
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Because usually when the gun, when there's a stat about guns that make guns look bad,
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But, uh, in this case, what they found is, was amazing.
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They write in 161 cases, schools or districts attested that no incident took place or couldn't
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So what they're saying is not, not, not the stuff I'm talking about before where like it's
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a pellet gun or it's a guy committing suicide near school grounds.
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No, they're saying 161 of the 240 were just nothing.
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It's even more amazing than that because of the remaining 59 cases, uh, they couldn't
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be, some of those couldn't be confirmed or disconfirmed.
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They actually found only 11 confirmed by either the schools or through news reports, 11 out of
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And you know, again, if you have a school shooting, it's probably going to be easy to
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You know, you call Parkland school district right now.
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They're going to be able to confirm the school shooting occurred there.
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Uh, so civil rights data collection for 2018 required every public school, more than 96,000
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Like they, someone put, I think it was Cleveland put 37 in for school shootings and it, they meant
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So gosh, now if Cleveland had 37 school shootings, I feel like we might've heard of
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This is the Glenn Beck program this week with Pat Stu and Jeffy, just, uh, learning about
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the right wing conservative echo chamber that's going on here where, um, you know, there's,
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there's no bias in the media, especially at CNN, which is, uh, it's good to know.
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It's good to know that everybody's right down the journalistic middle, uh, that's what they
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Uh, Chuck Todd went into this and then made sure we understood, uh, why people believe
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The truth of the matter is 62% think the media is biased.
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So in other words, if you look at the approval rating of Donald Trump, the conservative echo
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I mean, it has been a tactic and a tool of the Roger Ailes created echo chamber.
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So let's not pretend it's not anything other than that.
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Like Fox news makes up for all the mainstream media bias.
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Uh, just in case anyone's wondering for a while now, for a while.
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It's an interesting thing because there's just never, there's never any responsibility
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We talked about that with the, just a few minutes ago with the claim that Donald Trump
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is a racist from Jeffrey Toobin and because he calls black people dumb, uh, in the past,
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that means that he thinks all black people are dumb.
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And when he criticizes an NBA player like LeBron James, again, he's criticizing anyone
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who will, who opposes him publicly enough for him to notice.
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If he notices that you said something bad about him, he'll say something bad about you.
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If he doesn't notice it, then I'll probably ignore it.
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Uh, but this latest story that happened with CNN, uh, and, and people are criticizing this
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as if it was, you know, it's again, the right wing echo chamber calling it fake news.
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CNN reported that Donald Trump knew about the Russian meeting before it happened.
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Now, if that were to be true, it would be a pretty significant development in the story.
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And it was treated as if it was a pretty significant development in the story.
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They said they had multiple, you know, important inside credible sources that, that,
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And only weeks later, after the story has run its course, after everybody's repeated
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it a thousand times, do we find out that one of the sources that CNN had was Lanny Davis.
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Now, Lanny Davis is the attorney for Michael Cohen.
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There's no way you can say it's a fair, like Lanny Davis, you know, say what you want about him.
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You can never take an attorney's word who's advocating on his, uh, for his client as a
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legitimate unbiased source of, he's just saying anything that will help his client.
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So, in the story, they cite Lanny Davis as one of the sources for Trump knowing in advance
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And now Lanny Davis is saying, oh yeah, by the way, I don't actually feel any confidence
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So, Davis is coming out and saying, you know, look, this story probably isn't true.
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CNN is standing by the story anyway, because they're saying, well, we had other sources
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who told us that too. Take that, put that aside for a second, because, you know, it's
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ridiculous to stick around with a story like that, I think, when you have a major part of
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your sourcing fall apart. At the very least, you should say there are now major doubts
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about the story because one of our major sources, um, uh, fell apart. However, we still do have
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other sources, uh, you know, available and we're checking into it. I mean, at least you give
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some sort of, you got to step back from it a little bit. CNN isn't. But bigger problem
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than that is, one, how you include Lanny Davis as a source on anything about Michael Cohen.
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If Lanny Davis is saying it, you got to say Lanny Davis is saying it. He's an, he's a paid
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advocate for Michael Cohen. And we need that as part of our legal system, but we don't need
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that as part of journalism. You know, you can't just be quoting the random claims of a, of
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a lawyer as proof of anything. You can say their lawyers are making this. You can say
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a source from their legal team made this argument. That's okay. But you can't just act as if they're
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just this fair arbiter of the story. And more, I think more importantly, they, they included
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a quote or a section about Lanny Davis in which they asked for comment and Lanny Davis would
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not give comment on the story. Well, that's just flatly a lie. He did give comment. You
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included it in the story. He confirmed your source. He was one of the sources for the story.
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If not the only source. He gave no record and probably the only source. He gave no on the
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record comment, but what you're at, you are telling your audience, the source couldn't have
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been Lanny Davis. It had to be more credible than that because Lanny Davis wouldn't give us
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comment. We asked Lanny Davis about it and he wouldn't say anything. Well, he did say something
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and we now know he said something because Lanny Davis told us he said something. And that's
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the sort of thing that it happens all the time with the media where they are just, they're
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so itching to get something that will take the president down. And that one story that's
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really going to change things when I don't know if anybody's noticed, nothing's going to
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change things. I mean, there really, it does not seem to be any story that could be printed
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that would change for positive or negative Donald Trump's approval rating. It's been
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in between 38 and 45 by most credible polls, his entire presidency. Now 38 and 45 is a bit
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of a range, but not much. You know, when, when things are going well, it gets up to around
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45. When things are going poorly, it gets down to 38. And sometimes when things are going
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really poorly, it activates his base and it goes up to 45. And sometimes when things are
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going really well, people get bored and it goes down to 38. It doesn't, none of it, it's
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just in that range. It's almost random chance at this point, his approval rating is probably
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around 41 or 42. And he's got a range on either side of that, that bounces, bounces back and
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forth. People have made their mind up on Donald Trump. The man has been one of the most publicly
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accessible figures in our society for 30 or 40 years. We all know what we think about Donald
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Trump at this point. So the idea that they continually try this and bend every rule that they would
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not bend for other people and, and take every liberty they can to make sure the people finally,
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this story is going to be the one that convinces everyone that they should turn away from this
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guy. I don't know what would make that happen or would make people turn to him at this point.
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You know, we look about the African-American approval rating and it has improved. There's
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one poll that shows it very high, a Rasmussen poll, but most polls show it has improved slightly,
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but it's still pretty low. You could easily make the argument and Trump makes it from time to time
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that there've been really good results. The black unemployment rate is as low as it's ever been.
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There's been, he's, he's actually addressed some of the criminal justice reforms that, you know,
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the community has been asking for, for a long time. There's a real argument to be made that he
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should have a higher approval rating among African-Americans, but they've made their mind up
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largely. So this on both sides, everybody's made their mind up and everyone just keeps trying to come
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out here and act as if they can change it with their next story. I don't know what could change
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it. I would, it will be interesting to see if he, if the winning idea goes away, how, how does,
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how is he received? If what the, many of the pollsters are predicting, and they're not always
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right as we know, but as right now it looks like state of the race as of right now looks like
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Republicans are going to lose the house. There's a chance they could lose the Senate. I think it's
00:26:59.240
very unlikely though. I think that's very unlikely. That would be a real cataclysm. But if it were to
00:27:05.840
happen, uh, and he lost both houses, uh, you know, both sides and, and he became, you know,
00:27:11.240
the, the, the winning sort of, uh, feeling around him wasn't necessarily there. I mean, certainly he
00:27:16.740
would take a part of the blame as every president does when their party loses power, when you're
00:27:21.120
president, it would be interesting to see if, if people care then. I don't think they will.
00:27:26.060
I think they'll just blame, you know, well, Republicans, that's the swamp or whatever.
00:27:28.940
And you can kind of move on with your life. I don't know that there's anything because this,
00:27:32.940
there is a, a real analysis and many people have made it that Donald Trump has done a good job
00:27:38.060
on policy. And that's a really good reason for you to approve of him if you're a Republican. Um,
00:27:42.800
and at least on a lot of things, there's another part of this equation that just turns out to be
00:27:47.840
emotion. The people, we certainly recognize it on the left, right? I mean, there is so much
00:27:52.880
reflexive emotion against this guy for every single thing that he does. They'll do everything
00:27:58.700
they can. They'll take things where he makes an offhanded comment. They'll try to take it exactly
00:28:02.540
literally and, and then show you 25 other examples about how presidents said other things in the past.
00:28:07.260
You know, we'll, we'll, we'll obsess for multiple days about how high he put the flag for John McCain
00:28:12.740
and, you know, whether he was responsive enough or really felt the amount of love that he should
00:28:17.820
have for, for, you know, this, one of his arch enemies in politics who, you know, passes away,
00:28:23.580
you can absolutely obsess about those things, but it's not going to change anybody's mind.
00:28:27.900
And I think there's certainly a part on the right, as we've seen over the years too,
00:28:31.080
that just loves the guy and is not going to go anywhere no matter what he does.
00:28:34.380
So maybe the answer here is just to not constantly obsess about this person.
00:28:39.900
You know, maybe we look at other things in our life. I mean, he certainly, he certainly seems to
00:28:44.040
be able to defend himself without other people getting on his side all the time.
00:28:47.840
He seems to be very capable of that. It's like, it seems to be the thing he really enjoys about
00:28:51.680
the job. I mean, he really does seem to like getting in the middle of those things. And I
00:28:55.640
think that's why a lot of people love him so much. Oh, he most definitely does. And I'd like to do
00:28:59.500
that, Stu, but then he tweets something and I can't, I just can't walk away from him.
00:29:03.680
That does seem, you know, the media should really look at it and say, okay, should we cover this
00:29:08.500
story about Donald Trump? Well, is it something, is the story about something he tweeted? If that's your
00:29:13.980
answer, the answer should always be no, right? Like who cares what he tweets? The same thing
00:29:18.840
with even, I would even argue when Donald Trump says something, the media should largely ignore
00:29:25.580
it. And I know the left will get all pissed off about that because they'll say, wow, what
00:29:29.720
you ignore what the president says or what the president tweets. Well, I mean, he outwardly
00:29:35.260
tells us all the time that the things he's saying are just negotiation. I'm just throwing it out
00:29:40.420
there. Yeah. Like he says it all the time. He tells you the things he's saying are for different
00:29:46.080
purposes, whether it's to piss one of his enemies off, whether it's to slam somebody, whether it's
00:29:50.060
just to get a better negotiating position, right? When he says something about North Korea,
00:29:54.240
should you go out there and report it crazily for months or just realize he's just, he's
00:30:00.980
negotiating, he's saying what he thinks is going to help his base and just why spend time
00:30:06.960
on it if you know that's the answer? You know, I mean, Trump likes getting into these battles.
00:30:11.640
He likes, you know, sort of the back and forth of the verbal conflict. He likes it. And a lot
00:30:19.160
of times in his own words, he says things for different reasons than he means them.
00:30:25.720
And I think the media likes it too. As much as they complain about this battle, they love it.
00:30:31.180
Otherwise they'd be backing off of it. But you got people like Jim Acosta who is just soaking up the
00:30:36.840
attention. He loves it. This is helping his career. Jim Acosta will probably be able to write his ticket
00:30:43.360
to whatever he wants to do next because everybody's focused on him. And he's the, he's the number
00:30:48.820
one enemy in the media of the president. And so he loves it as much as Trump does. Yes. That's why
00:30:55.680
they're, they're just not going to stop because they think it's good for them. Uh, and, and it's,
00:31:01.740
it's creating a lot of attention for him. Yeah. And I really do think, you know, if there's a better,
00:31:06.740
better timed book than addicted to outrage, which is coming out from Glenn in a couple of weeks,
00:31:11.060
I mean, I can't think of one because this is exactly the problem. The media knows they get clicks
00:31:15.860
from, uh, from throwing the outrage out there, whether they, this is the big point, whether
00:31:21.260
they feel it or not. I have to imagine that, you know, you go, if you're one of these people
00:31:26.620
that are going on CNN all the time, you've just got to be like, Oh God, do I really have
00:31:29.780
to talk about another one of his tweets? Yeah. Like we all know he doesn't mean that or what
00:31:33.620
we all know this isn't real. We all know that him saying, uh, that Antifa is dangerous has
00:31:41.540
nothing to do with black people. We all know that again, I can't, someone looked, you know,
00:31:46.120
started searching and did find one black person in Antifa in the way background, like, and everyone
00:31:50.540
in the foreground is white. It's, it's a, I, to me, largely speaking, I don't know, 90 plus
00:31:55.480
percent white organization. I never really thought about it until now. I never thought about it either,
00:32:00.320
but at least my impression from all the videos I've seen, it's always white people doing the
00:32:04.700
violence. It's always white people throwing things at people. It's always white people hitting
00:32:08.320
people with bats. It's all absolutely things that way. But if you are in this constant
00:32:14.420
outrage cycle where you have to blow up everything into something that it's not, you know, I mean,
00:32:19.080
I guess that's what you do. I guess that's your way that someone could get addicted to outrage
00:32:23.880
the new book by Glenn Beck. It's an interesting question. Jeff, I was, I don't see it anywhere
00:32:27.900
in front of me. So unfortunately the answer is no, you can not know. Yes. You can pre-order
00:32:31.340
it at Amazon and everywhere else, but it's coming out on September 18th. So you should do
00:32:36.340
that if you feel like it. 888-727-BECK. Glenn's on vacation this week. It's Pat Stu and Jeffy
00:32:43.400
for Glenn. Hey, last night the Democrats embraced another socialist in Florida this time. This time
00:32:56.080
the big socialist victory happened in a fairly red state. So it'll be interesting to see how
00:33:05.960
the Democrat nominee fares in the general election against the Republican. Um, but once again,
00:33:13.020
the Democrats who claim the Republicans are the ones who have gone so extreme,
00:33:18.120
they've turned to socialism and a socialist, uh, for their, their hopes in the election in November.
00:33:28.800
I mean, it doesn't mean necessarily that it's going to work out, but if they had a chance of winning,
00:33:32.680
they will have a better chance of winning against a socialist. Yeah. That is especially one that's,
00:33:37.700
you know, talking about it so overtly. This is a Sanders backed, uh, candidate, a guy who was
00:33:43.040
kind of in trouble in his campaign. And then Sanders came down and seemed to push him over the edge.
00:33:48.940
That's why Trump pushed the Republican over the edge. Yep. And in Florida as well. Uh, DeSantis is
00:33:54.920
interesting. The op, kind of the opposite happened in Arizona where Kelly Ward and Arpaio, uh, lost to
00:34:02.900
a more conventional sort of now, now this is of course right after McCain passing away, uh, which
00:34:08.440
may have played into that. Also two candidates kind of that were very Trumpy, if you want to say like
00:34:13.260
Ward and Arpaio, obviously Arpaio was very much that way. So it was kind of two candidates splitting
00:34:18.520
that vote maybe a little bit. Either way, uh, that one worked, went kind of to the establishment.
00:34:22.420
So, I mean, really these races have been mixed. I mean, you know, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had a
00:34:26.680
candidate she was fighting for and got destroyed. Something like 86 to 14. So it's still none of
00:34:32.880
her candidates, none of her endorsements have, have worked out, have they? I don't, I can't think
00:34:37.600
she's like 0 for 8 or 0 for 9 now. So, I mean, that's, that's a positive thing. But Sanders is the
00:34:43.000
same, you know, certainly same policy wise. Uh, and his, his guy, his work, his guy came through in a
00:34:49.620
tough race. Andrew Gillum, uh, the, uh, Tallahassee mayor.
00:34:56.160
Glenn Beck. With Pat, Stu, and Jeffy this week, uh, for Glenn. You know, there's some kind of Ruth
00:35:04.080
Bader Ginsburg, uh, hysteria going on right now. And I, you know, not only is there a documentary,
00:35:11.220
there's a major, uh, movie release coming out, I think on Christmas day. And now there's a CNN
00:35:18.140
special. Are they running the, is it, I think they're running the documentary, which is incredible.
00:35:23.000
Man, are they promoting that thing? Ruth hysteria. Yeah. Ruth hysteria is good. I like that. I like
00:35:28.560
Ruth hysteria. It is really amazing. You know, again, there was a Ruth Bader Ginsburg documentary
00:35:33.600
made and just like praising her. There's like a little cult following around her. Like, and it's
00:35:37.700
kind of one of those things that here's this little tiny old lady who's super tough and doesn't give
00:35:41.320
up on her, you know, like, and of course she's super liberal, which helps. Um, but I honestly
00:35:45.640
think it's, there's part of it is like sort of a Betty White syndrome where like, I, you know,
00:35:49.800
I love Betty White, but like there was a thing she had a few years ago. But Betty White's got some
00:35:52.800
charm. Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Well, but after you reach a certain age and you know, I'm well aware
00:35:58.420
of this is that after you reach a certain age, people are like, oh, he's cute. I haven't reached
00:36:02.820
that yet. Well, you've reached the age where people think you're cute,
00:36:07.580
but you have past Ruth Bader Ginsburg's age. But it also is, I think, I think you're right
00:36:12.260
with the Betty White syndrome. And I think also it's a man, we've got to build her up and
00:36:16.420
make her happy. So she doesn't leave. I think there's something to that too, because I will
00:36:21.560
tell you this, if she were to retire tomorrow, they would hate her more than anybody has ever
00:36:27.760
been hated. How dare you? How dare you leave? Well, they did it to Kennedy. Uh, they, they
00:36:33.440
bludgeoned him for leaving. They loved him for years because he was the, the quote unquote
00:36:37.180
conservative that kept siding with them. Yeah. Uh, he was the greatest guy in the world
00:36:40.700
until he was gone. And then he was the worst guy in the world. The Ginsburg thing is so
00:36:45.240
amazing because, uh, there's, there seems to be, I mean, other than the speculation, I just
00:36:52.660
can't figure out what the, what the reason for it all of a sudden is. I think she's an
00:36:56.920
interesting character in which she's, if you think about it, if you're a liberal, right?
00:37:00.340
Like the same way I love Clarence Thomas, right? Clarence Thomas, because he's generally,
00:37:04.460
he's the most conservative, uh, person on the Supreme court. And at least, you know,
00:37:10.540
depending on how you measure it and those things are always tough to measure, but he's certainly
00:37:13.460
one of the top one or two. Uh, and he's a, you know, he, I think he does a great job on
00:37:17.580
the Supreme court. And, and he, so he's really, so that part of it, if you're a liberal, you
00:37:21.760
love Ruth Bader Ginsburg. She never disappoints you. She's always, always on the liberal side.
00:37:26.620
She never always, Oh wait, wow. This one, she went the other way. She's super predictable.
00:37:31.240
A hundred percent. Like, you know, basically Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez add about a hundred
00:37:36.800
points to the IQ and put her in the Supreme court, right? Like it's that sort of arrangement.
00:37:41.820
Of course the left loves that. Right. I mean, you know, she's, and you know, that's part of
00:37:47.660
it. I think another part of it is, you know, just her physical sort of stature, right? Like
00:37:52.720
she's this tiny, like old lady and just a power who's just still a powerhouse, you know,
00:37:58.540
like, and I think that's one of the things they like about, you know, Betty, that's how
00:38:01.700
Betty White had that resurgence in some ways. In the past we heard how much, what a relationship
00:38:05.180
she had with Scalia and how he loved her and they loved to battle. So she's had that kind
00:38:10.120
of bit of a little bit of love with that. But can you imagine? And she's fought for women's
00:38:14.800
rights for so long. All the causes that are popular. But I mean, think about this from a news
00:38:19.600
organization standpoint, this is essentially a pro Ruth Bader Ginsburg propaganda piece.
00:38:25.320
She, you know, it's, it's basically trying to turn her into a cult hero, which has sort
00:38:29.640
of happened. And this is on that, uh, on that level. Should CNN be airing that? I mean, to
00:38:36.120
me, the answer is no. Even the same thing with, you know, with Scalia, right? Like Scalia
00:38:42.920
passes away. Should you be, should you make a documentary or air a documentary that's a one
00:38:49.480
cited propaganda piece about, uh, Antonin Scalia if you're a news organization? Probably
00:38:54.780
not. Right. I mean, if you're going to do the thing about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, you probably
00:38:59.420
also have to do it for Antonin Scalia if you want to even attempt to look fair. Well, the
00:39:03.720
good thing is, is that she believes in the United States and the constitution and the, that,
00:39:08.580
well, we saw that in the trailer for the movie coming up. There's nothing better. Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:12.620
We saw that in this. The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S. constitution.
00:39:19.800
Nor does the word freedom, your honor. Booyah! Oh, did she nail him? Wow. That's supposedly
00:39:29.560
based on a true incident, I guess, from her past, which was in her thirties and her twenties.
00:39:35.060
I don't know, but the Supreme Court justice leans in and says, the word woman doesn't appear
00:39:42.880
even once in the U.S. constitution. Nor does the word freedom, your honor. Except for, well,
00:39:55.000
it does. Uh, but other than that, don't worry about the facts. That's great. I mean, it's not
00:40:03.260
in our constitution though, right? I mean, it's like, it's in our constitution, but you've
00:40:07.260
got to go all the way to the first amendment before you find the word freedom. So it's
00:40:13.140
pretty tough. I mean, it's tough to find. Yeah. Uh, and she is the one who famously, as
00:40:17.960
Jeffy was kind of just pointing out there, uh, said that South Africa's constitution was
00:40:23.760
South Africa's is the one which you should focus on. And Canada, because it was written
00:40:28.440
in 1982, ours is too old. But for instance, in South Africa, Hey, what does that analysis mean
00:40:36.060
for her? You see, you know, it's like, I love this, this idea that the, the, the oldest person
00:40:40.420
on the Supreme court can tell us it's, you know, the constitution's too old. Should we start throwing
00:40:45.240
out Supreme court justices at 65 too? One of the reasons that she really liked the constitution
00:40:50.200
from South Africa. Well, they came up with a, uh, really incredible concept of an independent
00:40:56.240
judiciary. Yeah. Why the hell didn't we think of that? An independent judiciary? What, what
00:41:02.820
if we had, wait, what if we had an independent judiciary, an independent legislative branch
00:41:09.240
and you couple that with an independent executive branch, but they're all separate and co-equal
00:41:17.700
what would happen? I mean, I can't even think what kind of government you'd have then. It's
00:41:23.080
like, what do you mean they came up with independent? We did that 240 years ago. What are you talking
00:41:28.480
about? Have you seen our constitution? Have you read it? Certainly by her rulings. I don't
00:41:34.300
think she's read it. And by this little trailer, I don't think she's read it. You, you, you're
00:41:38.600
telling us that the word of freedom is not in it. And I love the way she pauses there because
00:41:42.640
it's so powerful. What does she say? I saw power. The first time I heard it, I thought she
00:41:46.500
was saying, no, the word woman isn't in there, but the word freedom is no. She listened to
00:41:51.820
this carefully. The word woman does not appear even once in the U S constitution. You could
00:41:57.380
tell he's a bastard. Listen to the tone of his voice. Almost like, you know, Christian
00:42:03.200
Bales, Batman. Yeah. The word woman. It's almost like he's vomiting the word woman. It's
00:42:08.960
so offensive to him. The word woman. Listen to this. The word woman does not appear even
00:42:16.720
once in the U S constitution. Nor does the word freedom. Yeah. Nor does the word. Nor
00:42:22.220
does your honor. Oh my. Ooh, that's powerful. I mean, what is even a point there? I mean,
00:42:31.340
freedom of speech. I think the point is that the U S constitution is flawed and, and you
00:42:38.520
know, the word woman's not in it. Neither is the word freedom. Neither do we have, I
00:42:43.500
guess, an independent judiciary that's set apart. I mean, it's ridiculous. Was she arguing
00:42:48.080
for a new amendment to the constitution at this point at the, in this particular, in
00:42:52.400
this moment? I don't know. Cause the only thing you can maybe think of it and I, and I, off
00:42:56.700
the top of my head, I can't, I don't know, but she's just saying that she's not concluding
00:43:00.340
the amendments. Like we had to amend the constitution to get freedom in it. Well, is
00:43:04.820
that what she's trying to say? If you would have said, if you, it doesn't appear until
00:43:08.660
the amendments, that's one thing, but when you can, because the bill of rights is part
00:43:12.840
of the constitution. Right. I know. But what I'm saying is she's arguing for, which I would
00:43:17.080
maybe suspect the equal rights amendment. Maybe she's saying we have to add in the word
00:43:22.560
woman maybe, uh, here with another amendment. I don't know. I'm trying again, I'm giving her
00:43:27.700
too much of a break here, but way too much. And we always do that. Yeah. They never do
00:43:32.080
that for us. No, of course never. I'm just trying to understand. I feel like that's
00:43:36.180
valuable to at least try to understand it. But I can't wait till Christmas day when
00:43:40.060
this power, I'm taking the family. Oh yeah. Oh man. Before we open presents, we're
00:43:46.180
headed. Yeah. Oh man. I've already, I've already got the, the wine ready to go. Open
00:43:50.740
it up, take a drink, sip of wine, go to the movies and just celebrate roosteria and go
00:43:55.340
for it. And Ruth Bader Ginsburg is about the size of my elf on a shelf too. So it kind
00:43:59.240
of fits. She does look like elf on the shelf. She's so tiny, tiny, but powerful, tiny, but
00:44:06.480
powerful. It's kind of like tiny, you know, like the same way people think about small dogs
00:44:12.720
where like, you know, there's really, it's really difficult for a small dog to be ugly,
00:44:16.700
even though like I have pugs and pugs are absolutely ugly, but people think they're
00:44:20.560
cute because they're small. Yes. Right. They're small. Yeah. And not Jeffy doesn't, but of course
00:44:25.480
Jeffy, you know, look, look at Jeffy. Uh, but there's a, there's that thing where I think
00:44:30.960
when, when you're small and powerful, it gives you that, like, there's some cool part of that
00:44:36.960
that people like. Yeah. And I think that's the main part. Cause there's no real, like you
00:44:40.640
could easily love Briar who's also old and also super liberal, right? Like there's, you
00:44:47.360
know, you, you, I mean, you could go and, and, and praise, uh, Sotomayor who, and some
00:44:52.820
measures is to the left of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and is younger and Hispanic. You could do that
00:44:58.700
if you wanted to as well, but they, they're picking Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I think because
00:45:02.160
of just physical qualities, which again, they say you should never do, but she's tiny and
00:45:07.520
she's old and she's cute. And, and, and like, you want to give her a little hug and maybe
00:45:12.980
pet her. Right. You know, and it's, I think that's why you want to help her up and walk
00:45:16.240
with her. Yeah. You want to just give her a big hug. She's Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I don't
00:45:20.300
necessarily, but I want to, I personally, I want the new, uh, Ruth on a shelf now. Ruth
00:45:26.300
on a shelf is a solid product. That's a solid, we could easily get some of those. Yes. You
00:45:30.640
feel like your house might be haunted with it though. I don't think I, I don't think
00:45:34.520
I want to come out in the middle of the night and that thing's just scampering across the
00:45:36.920
ground somehow. I think it could happen. A Ruth on a shelf easily comes alive and that
00:45:46.620
I don't want. No, that's scary. That's a frightening thought. 888-727-BECK. It's Pat's doing Jeffy
00:45:52.880
for Glenn this week. The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S.
00:45:59.940
constitution. Yeah. Nor does the word freedom. Your honor. Oh, she nailed him. Oh, super
00:46:11.900
powerful. How is she is? Uh, we need somebody to make a Ruth on the shelf. We need that.
00:46:18.900
I think Ruth on a shelf. It could be a good product. I think we should make it. I mean,
00:46:23.100
that's a, I'm telling you, it can't be that, it can't be that expensive, right? You put
00:46:26.480
it up at Christmas and then, and then every day, uh, you move it further from the Christmas
00:46:31.760
tree because you don't, you don't want anything to do with, you want it to be a separation
00:46:36.360
of Ruth and, and Ruth and state and state. Church and Ruth. Uh, yeah, that's that. I like
00:46:43.740
that. And you, maybe if you have like, it's always moving further and further away from,
00:46:48.120
maybe you should put, maybe you post the constitution somewhere in your house and every
00:46:52.680
day it runs a little bit further away from it. That could be, maybe on the other side
00:46:58.320
of your house, you put the South African constitution because we see how well South Africa is going
00:47:02.260
right now. It just gets closer and closer to South African constitution. I love it. I love
00:47:06.420
it. I don't exactly know what the audience is for this product, but I think I'd put it
00:47:10.700
in my house. And speaking of South Africa, did you see that they, uh, ruled 300,000 gun
00:47:19.340
owners have to hand in their guns? Oh, this is good. This is going really well. Everything's
00:47:24.680
going fine in South Africa. There's nothing to say for, right? Yes. There's, there's absolutely
00:47:29.740
nothing to see here. Okay. There's, there's no problem whatsoever. And if you think there
00:47:36.320
is, you're a racist, you're a white supremacist. Did you happen to read the, uh, the story from
00:47:42.460
Leon Wolf on the blaze about South Africa? He did an analysis piece about it and trying
00:47:46.860
to put it in context and perspective because there's so much online right now that you can't
00:47:50.560
trust. And, you know, some people are saying basically it's, you know, the Holocaust times
00:47:55.580
50, uh, the other side, they're saying it's the life is perfect in South Africa. And you
00:48:00.960
know, somewhere in between is probably the truth, but you know, one of the big issues
00:48:05.920
with it is there is a lot of violence in South Africa. The question is whether it's actually
00:48:11.300
based on, you know, farms and, and, and race. And there have been incidents of that, but the,
00:48:16.640
the crime problem in and of itself, I had no idea it was this bad. Listen to this description,
00:48:21.200
uh, and tell me you want to live in this place. How bad is the violent problem in South Africa?
00:48:25.780
Let's put it in perspective. In the United States, Chicago gets a lot of publicity for having
00:48:29.820
a shockingly high murder rate. Last year, Chicago had 650 murders in a city with a population
00:48:34.180
of just over 2.7 million, meaning that Chicago had a murder rate about, of about 24 murders
00:48:39.180
per 100,000 citizens. The entire country of South Africa had a murder rate of over 33 murders
00:48:46.180
per 100,000, which means the entire country, including the relatively rural and peaceful portions
00:48:52.520
has a murder rate. That's more than a third worse than Chicago. It's an entire country of
00:48:57.960
Chicago. And then a third worse than that. Wow. I mean, imagine how bad the violence problem
00:49:04.300
is. And it seems to be largely, uh, associated in cities, not necessarily a farm. Exactly why
00:49:09.780
we need to get rid of the guns. And that's what they're doing. Right. I bet that is what
00:49:13.760
their argument is. Right. You know, you couple the, the gun grab with the land expropriation
00:49:18.780
without compensation and you've got yourself a really good situation. Perfect country. It's
00:49:24.040
perfect. There's nothing wrong there. I don't know why people are getting all upset. Stop
00:49:28.480
it. There's nothing to see here at all. Let's move along. Yeah. Let's move. South Africa
00:49:32.740
is an interesting study too. And in the idea of, uh, of what liberals always say about places
00:49:37.840
like Denmark and Sweden and Finland, these sort of, you know, sort of homogeneous, you know,
00:49:45.420
countries where there's never been any history of integration or different cultures coming
00:49:51.380
together. It's been one culture, uh, that has lived the same way for a long time. Almost
00:49:56.260
everyone is involved in that culture, has the same traditions, the same things people. When
00:50:01.180
you have different groups in a country, a lot of times they disagree with each other and
00:50:05.740
real problems come out of that. South Africa is obviously an extreme example of this, but
00:50:09.720
it's also why you can't just say, Oh, all right, we'll just put universal healthcare in our
00:50:13.900
country because it works in Norway. You know, Oh, we'll just do all the things that they
00:50:17.340
do in Denmark and we'll just do them here. Well, this is a different place. You have much
00:50:21.240
you can't just, you can't just drop in their crappy, you know, system that I, you know,
00:50:25.020
I particularly don't want, I like ours much better, but you can't just drop theirs
00:50:27.860
and it's going to work the same way. It's ridiculous to assume that they're finding that
00:50:31.540
out themselves. Uh, they don't need us to tell them that. I mean, those countries are
00:50:35.360
already admitting that, that with, uh, you know, with their immigration policies, the
00:50:40.040
old policies that were so great, not so great right now. All of a sudden they cost
00:50:45.560
way too much and all of a sudden they're, they're starting to really hurt the economies
00:50:48.480
and all of a sudden they're starting to drain money from their citizens. And of course
00:50:52.200
this happens. And all of a sudden they've got people who disagree with each other
00:50:55.220
now because they don't come from the same culture. Right. Huh. So you're saying when
00:51:00.620
there's diversity, it's a little tougher. Yeah. And I think that was, you know, one of the
00:51:04.920
main things the founders talked about, you know, and, and, and, you know, just generally
00:51:09.480
speaking, our conception of a melting pot, right. Is that where we, I mean, we do, I
00:51:15.220
think this country has benefited greatly from immigration over the years in, in, in, in
00:51:19.540
incredible ways, legal immigration, by the way. Uh, but it's been an incredible, uh, you
00:51:27.320
know, improvement on our society and we've melted into each other. We've taken, you
00:51:31.060
know, I've used this example, but like the, the NFL's condiment, an official condiment
00:51:36.600
was like hummus. Like think about that 10, 15, 20 years ago. Now again, I understand
00:51:43.400
it's just an advertising thing, right. It's not an, it's just an advertising thing, but
00:51:47.880
I mean, the most, give you a better one. Uh, the most popular condiment in the United
00:51:52.060
States of America is salsa. It is not ketchup. It is not mustard. It's not mayonnaise. It's
00:51:57.420
salsa. Now that, is that a negative thing? I mean, if you like salsa, uh, you may think
00:52:02.760
it is, if you don't like salsa, you might think it is, but the point is an amazing
00:52:05.780
thing. It's an amazing thing. And it shows you the diversity here. It's because
00:52:09.020
something we, we didn't just say, well, we don't want your new thing here. Get
00:52:12.820
away. We said your new thing tastes pretty freaking awesome. Let's have more. Right.
00:52:16.760
You know? Yeah. Uh, it's something that America has done and many other cultures
00:52:22.960
have not, you know, like you, you get, you know, you, if American culture, God,
00:52:27.300
forbid for, you know, penetrates another country, there's protests and everyone
00:52:30.480
whines about it. Why not take the good things from our culture too? You know,
00:52:34.200
you should be melting in the things that are great. We've come up with a lot of
00:52:37.100
freaking great stuff. They have no problem melting in our, you know, our medical
00:52:40.260
innovations. They have no problem melting in our, you know, uh, technological
00:52:44.560
innovations, but like culture makes people, uh, feel stress and strife and anger and
00:52:52.940
protectionism and all of those things. And you shouldn't, I mean, really you pick and
00:52:58.460
choose the things you like, you know, there's like guacamole is really freaking
00:53:01.620
popular in the United States. I hate it. Me too. I think it's, I can't, I can't
00:53:05.140
imagine someone wanting to put this green mushy thing in their mouth. It's just, if
00:53:09.980
it touches something that I eat, I want to throw the thing out to me. That's, that's
00:53:14.140
how hard I am on guacamole. But again, like it's a good, a lot of people like it, you
00:53:19.780
know, and it's a positive thing that we're able to, to have this new product
00:53:23.320
that, you know, a lot of people like, that's a, that's a great part about
00:53:25.880
America. That is something that we've gotten away from because now people are
00:53:31.380
trying to come here and protect their old culture here and say, I don't stop
00:53:36.340
touching my culture. The point of this was to melt together. Yeah. You know, not to
00:53:40.180
put us all in different, uh, kitchenware. I'm going to say the guacamole thing is not
00:53:43.680
a good thing though. No, that's obviously terrible. It's awful. I hate guacamole. If you
00:53:48.160
hear yourself saying feels pretty good to see somebody rub their nose in it, you
00:53:51.940
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You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program. With Pat, Stu, and Jeffy this week
00:54:24.640
for Glenn. 888-727-BECK. Uh, the Me Too movement continues to, uh, swim along quite
00:54:32.320
nicely. And, uh, you know, make sure that people don't work. And I mean, and that's
00:54:38.960
fine if, if people have actually committed egregious, um, crimes.
00:54:45.320
You mean like one of the founders, Asia Argento, who is apparently now getting thrown out of
00:54:50.460
her jobs? Uh, which is interesting. That's an interesting development.
00:54:55.020
That is interesting. Yeah. Uh, you know, I, it's, I don't know how to handle this stuff
00:55:01.380
because when you have a legal system, right? What you do is in advance of the trial, you
00:55:06.940
have laws on the books and then people know what those laws are. And then when you go in
00:55:10.340
and you have a trial and you're found guilty there on the books is a range of punishment,
00:55:14.060
which would be, uh, applied to the person who committed the crime.
00:55:18.120
So you're saying after the, after you have say, I don't know, uh, presented evidence and
00:55:23.860
a jury has perhaps said that there's enough evidence to say, yes, you're guilty. And, and
00:55:33.020
Yes. That is what I would. Before that's what happens. Cause those people, you're, you're
00:55:37.620
a bad person. Okay. So, so just the accusation is enough to say you're a bad person. You need
00:55:44.140
to get out of your job. And that seems to be where we are now. So you get the, you feel
00:55:47.960
the punishment right away. You lose all of your jobs, you lose your company, you lose everything,
00:55:52.100
whether you did it or not. And again, it is certainly just for people like, let's say Harvey
00:55:58.300
Weinstein who did a lot of terrible things. However, on that same front, you should actually
00:56:04.820
be convicted of a crime before the punishment gets associated with you. And we've jumped
00:56:12.080
the gun on that one. And we now believe the person should get punished immediately. And
00:56:15.820
with someone of Weinstein, it's easy. We all suspect that he really did all these things
00:56:19.880
and it seems overwhelmingly, there's an overwhelming amount of evidence, including his own words on
00:56:24.120
tape that, that indicate that. Uh, so, you know, no one really cares on that one. But
00:56:29.500
when it comes to someone like Louis CK is, is a good example of this. Louis CK was part
00:56:35.240
of the me too movement. And if you remember the story, basically he did things to himself
00:56:41.740
in front of women after he asked them if it was okay. Yeah. Awkward. Right. I mean, as
00:56:48.000
you'd expect from Louis CK, very awkward. Yeah. Can I do this in front of you? Just like, well,
00:56:52.600
one of the stories even was that one girl remembered that he asked and I said, no. And
00:56:58.860
so it didn't happen. So it didn't happen. Right. Yeah. So she said no. Amazingly. And
00:57:02.520
he didn't do anything. Yeah. Right. Right. Now the other system said yes. And now they're
00:57:07.300
still complaining about it. Right. Well, if you didn't want him to do that, then you should
00:57:10.780
have said no. Right. And then if he continued, you'd have a case. Yes. If he does. Now
00:57:17.160
what we have. And from my understanding is that there's no allegation that he ever did
00:57:20.640
that against their will. Yeah. I don't. Is that true? I don't know if some of, I don't
00:57:24.960
know if any of them said that. I don't remember any of them saying that. I mean, it's creepy
00:57:28.180
what he was doing. Yes. Very creepy. But he did ask for permission and seemingly permission
00:57:34.100
was granted. Yeah. Or I think one of, there was one group of women. Some were saying that
00:57:37.380
they didn't say anything. They didn't say anything and they just kind of laughed at him.
00:57:40.420
Right. Because he said, I'm going to take my clothes off now. Okay. And they kind of
00:57:43.660
uncomfortably and then stayed. He takes his clothes off and they're so upset. They don't
00:57:49.920
leave. Well, now their argument here, he's a comedian and he's a comedian and he's powerful
00:57:54.460
and famous. Now this is some of these have all power over people. Cause I wasn't aware
00:57:59.140
of this up until this point. Well, comedians have this extraordinary power over. How are
00:58:05.540
you still working? I don't know. Well, I guess you could argue. I mean, again, I think their
00:58:09.900
argument is poor here, but their argument is he does have power in the world of being
00:58:14.660
a comedian. And these were people who were trying to rise the, like, you know, like Jerry
00:58:18.540
Seinfeld certainly has some impact. At the time he was doing a TV show. He was doing other
00:58:22.460
stuff. He had deals with Netflix. Those are all gone. But at the time he did. So he did
00:58:27.580
have some kind of power. Right. Like you have power. Like, you know, if, would you say, you
00:58:31.780
know, uh, Jerry Seinfeld has, could have an influence on a young comedian's career. I mean,
00:58:36.380
the, the answer is of course the answer is yes. Certainly. Were these all young comedians
00:58:39.340
that he did this in front of? I know at least a few of them were. Um, you know, there was
00:58:42.960
one, there was one who said, uh, that, I mean, even talk about a, a, a, a, a weak
00:58:49.840
allegation. The allegation, again, these are just such weird topics. The allegation was
00:58:57.160
that she, Louis CK got on the phone with a woman and the woman during the call suspected,
00:59:08.120
believed, believed. He never said he was, but suspected that he was masturbating while
00:59:13.200
on the phone with her. Oh my gosh. Now there was no confirmation of that, but that's what
00:59:17.260
she thought was going on. And that was a me too allegation. And he was so powerful that
00:59:22.420
she could not hang up. I guess so. Okay. There you go. I mean, let's, let's, let's be
00:59:28.140
honest. He did not ask for permission. Well, he's on the phone. He didn't say he was doing
00:59:33.100
it either. No, she just believed it. She just believed it. Right. So the idea is, okay,
00:59:37.480
well, Louis CK could then go to some manager and say, anybody who's been on the phone with
00:59:42.780
that guy could say, yeah, I believed he was pleasuring himself when we were on the phone
00:59:47.080
and I'm really offended by that. And I, I, I think, I think for all of my stress, I need
00:59:53.320
like three and a half million dollars. No, you don't want, no, I don't want to seem greedy
00:59:58.360
2 million. So their argument is okay. Well he could behind the scenes say, you know what?
01:00:04.120
I just don't like her work. I don't like, I don't think she's a good comedian. And then
01:00:07.040
she might not advance in her career. Hey, of course, a lot of times comedians will say, you
01:00:12.080
know, anybody will say that if they feel a lot of people feel inaccurately that others
01:00:16.100
have thwarted their careers, right? A lot of people say, well, this person's keeping me down.
01:00:21.260
It's a very human instinct to believe that unless you have real evidence of someone doing it,
01:00:25.460
it's hard to, to, to, to take anything from it. So, and there was very little of that with
01:00:30.500
Louis CK. I think one person, I think may have said that if I remember correctly.
01:00:33.740
I was, I was headed in the opposite direction. I think a few of them were saying that, uh, they,
01:00:39.020
it seemed like, uh, he did things to help them. Right. Like it was like awkward and he,
01:00:44.100
because of the awkward situation, he actually tried to assist them in their career. So,
01:00:47.940
so Louis CK for the first time now has come out and done a comedy set, um, at, uh, in New York.
01:00:56.780
Um, was it the comedy seller? Was it the comedy seller? It was, it was one of those smaller clubs.
01:01:00.940
115 people were there not knowing he was coming. So, you know, and comedy seller in Carolines in
01:01:06.400
New York, the few clubs like that are famous for big time comedians popping out out of nowhere.
01:01:12.640
You're just there for a normal show. Practice their new set. Yeah. Practice their new set,
01:01:16.020
try out some new material and then leave. So out of nowhere, Louis CK comes out for his first public
01:01:21.120
appearance, does a normal comedy, does not mention. Standing ovation. Standing ovation before he even
01:01:24.840
starts. Does not, uh, mention the scandals at all. Just does his little routine, try some stuff out
01:01:30.800
and leaves. There was apparently one call from a patron of the concert, of the appearance said,
01:01:36.980
I wish I would have known in advance so I could have made the decision whether I wanted to come or not.
01:01:40.480
Um, you know, which, you know, I guess I can understand, uh, though I bet they would have
01:01:46.440
no trouble filling the, the, uh, the room. Yes. And I just think this is an issue when you don't
01:01:51.480
use the justice system. There's no punishment that has been allocated already. Like we saw
01:01:58.360
Glenn Thrush, uh, from the, was the New York Times and he's been at Politico and a bunch of
01:02:02.560
different things, you know, left wing sort of white house type reporter who also got a me too
01:02:08.460
allegation against him. The allegation against him was that after late night parties, he would
01:02:14.120
often hit on younger employees, uh, of the, you know, uh, of the papers he was working for. And
01:02:20.640
again, he was a, these are people who want to get into journalism. He's an important, powerful
01:02:25.260
journalist and there was no accusation that he actually forced anyone to do anything. The accusation
01:02:32.300
was that he should have known better to not fraternize with the younger workers. So, and
01:02:40.360
what happened with him is he's back working. You know, he did not seem to have, he did lose,
01:02:45.840
he was suspended I think for a while, but I think he's back now working, but there's no set punishments
01:02:51.040
because there's no legal system here, right? We've decided to go around the legal system.
01:02:54.920
Right. And we decided that these things should be educated in our own minds. What do we think
01:03:01.400
Louis CK did? What do we think Glenn Thrush did? What do we think, you know, uh, Kevin Spacey
01:03:06.640
did? And we will allocate those as it comes. Uh, was it Jeffrey, uh, Tambor had a me too
01:03:13.560
allegation. He seems to have felt no repercussions about it at all. After this, he was in the death
01:03:19.200
of Stalin. He, you know, he was, uh, you know, people, I don't know, do people just believe him
01:03:24.680
because he would, you know, cause he's on the right side of things possible. Yeah. You know,
01:03:29.640
maybe it doesn't seem to be a real obvious pattern here. Is it wrong for Louis CK to now be able to come
01:03:37.520
back and talk about the things that he thinks are funny in front of people? Well, I mean, I think
01:03:42.140
the answer to that is if people don't show up, he should probably stop doing it. If he, you know,
01:03:46.580
he'll, he'll be, if people aren't interested in hearing what he wants to say, then he can't be
01:03:51.540
a standup comedian anymore because people don't want to hear him. And that is a, you know, a market
01:03:56.880
based job. If people like your comedy, they come and you get to do it for a living. If they don't
01:04:03.080
and you suck and they don't come, then you don't. So I, the, the outrage here that we, we have to
01:04:10.120
allow, um, you know, we have to make sure that he never gets in front of people again and he has to
01:04:15.600
be punished till the end of time. It's kind of a, it's kind of a crazy instinct. You know,
01:04:20.660
I, I don't know. Maybe it's almost as if we're addicted to outrage.
01:04:25.880
Is this your job this week? This is Jeffy. No, I've come up with it with a, a useful
01:04:31.460
job for Jeffy. You're looking at the stupid poster the whole time right across from me for the
01:04:37.400
addicted to outrage. For those of you listening on radio, that's all I see. Yeah. I look at Stu,
01:04:41.700
I see the glut back. Well, it is coming out soon. So you can buy that. But I guess that's
01:04:46.080
in some ways is, is tied to that. Right. I mean, we have, we all act as if we're perfect
01:04:51.880
and we're all, we all act as if we've never made a mistake and we all act as if we can just
01:04:56.120
slam everybody who has had their public issues. When in reality, like there has to be, and this
01:05:02.600
is, I think part of the job of people who really support the Me Too movement and think its work
01:05:07.600
is important. And a lot of it is that you have to, you have to take a stand as someone in the Me Too
01:05:13.480
movement to say this particular claim is bull crap. This particular claim doesn't rise to the level of
01:05:19.520
what we're talking about. Right. You know, the fact that there's a, there's a, a statement made by
01:05:23.960
someone that's a little bit sexualized or, I mean, who was the guy? Was it Amazon? I think it's the
01:05:29.360
Amazon guy who was at a party. He was one of the heads of Amazon development, I think, or I think it
01:05:35.260
was Amazon, not Netflix, but it was one of the big streaming providers. And he went to a party and
01:05:39.120
he said some offensive things to a woman at a party. He was hitting on her. And, and that was,
01:05:43.980
I think the only allegation that he was inappropriate in conversation at a drunken Christmas party.
01:05:50.720
And like, that is something, you know, if you look back at, to, at the office, the show,
01:05:56.280
things like that happened all the time and it's not appropriate, but like that person would just
01:06:01.680
have a, people would think he's a dirt bag or people would say, do you believe he did this
01:06:05.460
once? But now he doesn't seem to do that anymore. And it would kind of blow over. And now we have
01:06:10.440
to make sure they're fired. We have to make sure they pay some public penance. And he was,
01:06:14.680
and he was, he did wide up, you know, I think he resigned. Yeah. I think he resigned under pressure
01:06:18.140
is what actually happened. I mean, who among us haven't been drunk at a Christmas party and
01:06:22.060
started hitting on? I mean, think about quite a few of us. Who among us? It's quite a few. I mean,
01:06:27.740
quite a few of us. Certainly Jeffy would, if these standards were around in, you know,
01:06:33.700
the 1830s when Jeffy was coming of age, I mean, I can't even imagine what would have happened to
01:06:38.940
him. But you know, look, there is, there should be some level, most, I don't know what, I don't
01:06:45.520
know what the percentage is, but I bet there's half of people wind up meeting their significant
01:06:49.980
other at work. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I'm guessing it's probably a high percentage,
01:06:53.620
probably a high percentage, right? I mean, you have, or, and then if you want to add in
01:06:57.260
people who are at bars that have been drinking, you're even higher, right? I mean, like you,
01:07:03.640
that, that shouldn't mean if you, if you do something inappropriate, and many women made
01:07:07.820
this argument around the Me Too point when that was really happening, is that, you know,
01:07:12.020
that's part of what I want. Like, I want there to be some available level of sexuality that,
01:07:20.180
that is, that is able to be expressed by someone I'm trying to court. If not,
01:07:27.260
I mean, you know, there has to be some sort of. Well, we have to realize that no means no,
01:07:31.240
right? A hundred percent. And so when, when, uh, uh, you know, when you start bashing Louis CK,
01:07:37.660
remember he asked. Right. He asked. And that's the thing. It's gone from no means no to don't ask.
01:07:43.840
Yeah. Yeah, it has. And you know, that is a. Don't flirt. Don't ask. Don't ask. Don't show interest.
01:07:49.420
Don't look. Don't certainly don't touch. Um, so how do men and women ever like together again?
01:07:57.600
You know, to ask fundamentally, how does the species continue? Yeah. At some point in every
01:08:02.940
relationship, you go in for your first kiss. Rarely do you, are you saying, Hey, do you mind? Do you
01:08:09.620
mind signing this contract that allows me to, for my lips to touch yours? Like, that's not how it
01:08:14.380
happens. You know, and there are people who misjudge it, right? Like, I mean, I've always
01:08:19.880
been on the case of, of being such a wuss that you wait way too long. And eventually it's so obvious
01:08:26.180
that you, it's time to go for it. That's, that's what I waited till because, you know, I'm a loser,
01:08:30.340
but you know, not everybody's that way. Sometimes people call it wrong, you know, sometimes. And that
01:08:35.860
shouldn't be, that can be something where we say, Hey, you know, that's inappropriate at this place.
01:08:40.580
Hey, don't do that anymore. No, I'm not interested. Thank you.
01:08:43.660
Then the person absolutely needs to stop. But, you know, we have, there has to be some room for
01:08:49.700
men and women and maybe men and men and women and women to do the little dance. Yeah. That's,
01:08:54.700
that is part of it. That's not Harvey Weinstein, but it is part of it.
01:08:58.900
888-933-93 or 888-727-BECK. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Thank you. Pat's doing Jeffy for Glenn.
01:09:08.940
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why it matters. I'm going to be filling in for TV again for Glenn tonight. We've got some pretty
01:09:24.040
interesting stuff on socialism and the new wave of it. We saw a big election last night where a
01:09:28.760
socialist in Florida was able to beat out some, some pretty well-funded competition. Yeah. For the
01:09:35.180
Democrats. As the Democrat party just keeps going more and more extreme. Yeah. Every day. It's such a weird,
01:09:39.780
I'm not surprised they're getting more extreme and being more overt about it. I'm just surprised
01:09:43.440
with Venezuela going on. Yeah. This is the time they've picked to do it. I mean, that's the DNC
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chair. Perez already said that's the future. Future of the party. Future of the party.
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Future of the future. Amazing. More in a second. It's Pat. It's Stu. It's Jeffy for Glenn.
01:09:58.620
Glenn back. It's Pat, Stu, and Jeffy for Glenn. Yesterday we were talking, I think it was around
01:10:04.700
this time. We were talking about a case in Utah with civil asset forfeiture. This is something
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that's come up from time to time recently because it's one of the most incredible and most egregious
01:10:18.520
violations, I think, of the U.S. Constitution that I've seen in my lifetime. And we continue to get
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these stories. Yesterday we talked to you about the Utah Highway Patrol, which pulled over a guy
01:10:30.580
named Kyle Savely in Utah. And he had, there was a drug dog that apparently had a hit on something
01:10:43.860
in his car that smelled like drugs, but they found no drugs. So there weren't drugs there. They
01:10:48.640
charged him with nothing. He's never been charged. And this happened two years ago. What they did find
01:10:54.140
was $500,000 in cash, which they helped themselves to. They took it. And yeah, it's, it's nice. It's a
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nice little score for the Utah Highway Patrol. No kidding. Um, and I think they have to share that.
01:11:05.940
They're trying to decide now how, who, how to divvy up the cash between the federal government and the
01:11:10.680
state government. Not the person. I think not the person. They didn't rule he was supposed to get
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it back. Fortunately, the Utah Supreme Court ruled that he needed to get it back, which has not,
01:11:19.680
it still hasn't happened. Now you might suspect that a guy who's carrying $500,000 in cash with him
01:11:28.600
did something wrong to get that money, but we don't know that he did. And it's not illegal to
01:11:34.420
carry $500,000 in cash with you. Maybe he's on his way to pay cash for a house. I don't know.
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Yeah, but that, he obviously was doing something wrong. Maybe it's not illegal.
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That's where you do. That's what you do. Yeah. You prove it. I mean, cause like, let's say,
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let's just say, for example, uh, you went and you pulled this person over and, uh, you took the
01:11:54.500
money and you looked around the car and you didn't find anything. And then later on and, you know,
01:11:59.520
as the investigation continued, eventually you found that he was a drug dealer and, and he was
01:12:04.920
absolutely, this was all dirty money and you charged and you charged him. Okay. You arrested him and you
01:12:09.580
charged him with a crime. Right. Um, would that be just now the outcome would be just right. Yeah.
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The outcome of it. We're happy that a person committing a crime goes to prison, but if you
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get it through a way that is wrong, usually those things don't stand up in court. Right. Right. You
01:12:27.880
can't just go be like, if we could run, if, if the, you know, the police department would go house to
01:12:32.440
house and look around everybody's house, they'd probably find something illegal. Certainly if they
01:12:35.540
got to Jeffy's house, they'd find many things and they better have a warrant. Yeah. Right. But that's
01:12:39.260
the thing. Well, that's what we have, right. A warrant. You got to get a warrant. You can't just walk in
01:12:43.140
and look for crimes. You have to have a suspicion of the crimes. That's legitimate. Now. I mean,
01:12:47.240
this, the dog thing is really pushing that standard. Honestly. I mean, the fact that a dog
01:12:52.080
smells something, I know some of these, you know, the dog sniffing dogs are not perfect. Well,
01:12:58.220
and again, uh, with $500,000 in cash, uh, we know for a fact that most of our money have some kind of
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drugs on it. Yeah, that's right. That's true. The dogs are smell. If they get a, a hint of some
01:13:12.980
kind of drug on the money, on the money. Yeah. You can, I think, make the argument that a dog
01:13:18.200
sniffing something is justification to search for something in the car. Sure. But when you find
01:13:23.580
something legal in the car, you don't get to take it. Yeah. Right. Like if you find a great stereo
01:13:27.360
system in the back, you don't get to help yourself to that because the guy smelled drugs, the dog
01:13:30.820
smelled drugs. Yeah. And that's the same thing with money. Money is property. Money is not illegal to
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carry with you. No. I, when did this start in America that you can't have a large sum of cash
01:13:41.640
with you on a trip? Yeah. That's, it's madness. And we occasionally will hear, I mean, it seems to
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be more and more frequent where we hear stories like this, where someone's carrying around a large
01:13:51.060
portion of their money with them. Sometimes it's someone coming from the restaurant to the bank,
01:13:55.860
right? And they're carrying, you know, 10, $15,000. Happened to that pizza guy. Yeah.
01:13:59.640
They took his savings. They took that. But beyond that, how many times is this happening where
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they're taking a thousand dollars or $500? We're not going to get stories about that. Yeah. How
01:14:10.420
many times happens a lot? Yeah. And would you fight it? I mean, the bottom line is they found
01:14:14.000
nothing and they took your thousand dollars. You're really going to bother going to court to get a
01:14:17.120
thousand dollars back. It's going to cost you a thousand dollars to miss work. You're going to,
01:14:21.220
you're going to want it being more than it would take, you know, in lawyer fees to get the money back.
01:14:26.220
And you mentioned us not taking a stereo, but in some cases they would take the stereo. Yeah.
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I mean, we're, we're seeing where they take cell phones and keys and key fobs and everything else.
01:14:37.080
Well, listen to this story we just found from West Virginia. This happened on June 9th.
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West Virginia state police trooper issued Demetrius Patlius a warning for failing to drive within his
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lane. So, uh, they pull the guy over. He wasn't driving within his lane and they, the officer
01:15:01.260
finds $10,000 in cash that he and his wife have on them. Now his wife is about eight months pregnant
01:15:11.220
and they were headed to the Hollywood casino in Jefferson County. They were going to go gamble.
01:15:16.800
So they had some cash on them. They'd capitalized on several promotional offers and had 13 and 14
01:15:24.700
respectively between them, uh, $100 gift cards on them along with the cash. Okay. So if they had
01:15:32.060
$1,400 gift, they had another $1,400 in gift cards there. Um, the, uh, well, no. And then they got
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$1,300, $2,700 worth of gift cards. So the officer who pulled them over started accusing
01:15:48.980
them of smuggling cigarettes, having drugs in the car, uh, gift card fraud, uh, and searched
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the car, searched the couple. He gets to search because he accused them, right? He accused them.
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He can search. I don't. Yeah. Where's the probable cause here? Searched her purse and then finally
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let them go with a uniform warning citation. He just gave them a warning and charged them
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with nothing. He found nothing. Well, except for $10,478 in cash, which he took. And then,
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uh, I guess they had a total of 78 gift cards in the car. He took those as well.
01:16:31.280
That's amazing. What in the, how is this possible that you can take, just take their property from
01:16:40.780
them? I mean, the gift cards obviously didn't come from a drug deal. What is this Sinaloa cartel
01:16:46.780
now paying in gift cards? Maybe, maybe they might be, and that might be a way, and that may be a way,
01:16:55.260
a way for them to, to wash their money and clean their money, which is, you know, it's obviously
01:17:01.220
could be. So now they're broke, but he left them with $2. He left them with $2. Not even like a 20
01:17:08.340
so they can get gas or something. No, nothing. Didn't charge them with a crime. And I didn't find
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anything. They've been charged with nothing. And yet they lost their $10,478 in their 78 gift cards.
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And I think the argument, uh, from the police side would be most of the time we find out that
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these things are right. Most of the times we're right. I just don't think that justifies it.
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It doesn't. It doesn't justify. It doesn't. You know, the bottom line is even if you, this person,
01:17:36.000
let's say they find out later on that they are dealing with, with drug dealers, that does not
01:17:40.900
justify taking their stuff before you have evidence of it. Yeah. It just doesn't.
01:17:46.500
We got to stop this. I don't know how, but somehow this has to be stopped this. If we are still
01:17:54.660
living in America, this just is, it's unacceptable. It can't happen anymore. And you know that we
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talked about yesterday about being, uh, you know, because they're short of money and they even talk
01:18:05.080
in the story. I mean the County in West Virginia gets 90% of the proceeds and the state gets 10% of
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it. So they, I mean, they're making it. So the police officers, uh, find it easier to take
01:18:18.240
the money from you cause they can. And then once they get it, what happened is, if the, if the,
01:18:26.120
if they start proceedings, if the assistant district attorney start proceedings on this
01:18:31.960
process, then you have to go prove that it's yours and that you didn't do anything wrong.
01:18:36.200
You have to prove that it's yours. And if you did anything wrong, it's completely un-American.
01:18:41.440
Right. But if they don't start proceedings and they, you can get it back, you can go to them
01:18:46.900
and they can decide, well, we're not going to start proceedings and they can, they'll give it back to
01:18:50.320
you. Once they start proceedings, you got to go through the whole process, which is where you
01:18:54.160
decide it's not worth it for 500 bucks and a stereo. That's, it really is incredible. And you know,
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the fact that people aren't outraged by this more often is surprising. You know,
01:19:07.140
Jeff, he keeps bringing up addicted to outrage, uh, Glenn's new book, but it's like, this is a good,
01:19:11.500
this is a good reason for outrage. Like not all outrage is bad. You just shouldn't be addicted to
01:19:15.560
it and getting and going crazy over every little thing. Correct. This is a real problem. Can you
01:19:20.600
imagine if this happened to you? Can you imagine if you had a situation like this? It wouldn't be good
01:19:26.280
because I probably be arrested or worse because I would go absolutely nuts. I, can you imagine the
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injustice you would feel if you hadn't done anything wrong? You're just carrying money with you. You're
01:19:39.180
on your way to the casino. You're on your way to buy a car. You're on your way. Uh, in one case, a guy
01:19:44.840
had $91,800 to go buy a, uh, sound studio and, uh, they took that money from him. That was three years
01:19:54.140
ago. He still hasn't gotten it back. I mean, that's your, for most people's going to be, you
01:19:58.880
know, their life savings. I think of the amount of work you put in to be able to put that amount
01:20:03.400
of cash away to purchase something that you've always dreamed about happening. And then they,
01:20:08.300
they, they just rip it away from you for nothing. Again, if there's a crime committed,
01:20:11.480
that's a different story. You know, if it's, if there's a crime committed and you can prove that
01:20:15.160
those funds came from that, uh, from that crime, you have a, you have a situation where there's
01:20:20.000
something valid to look at, but there's no burden of proof here. There's no burden of,
01:20:23.600
of even probable cause in a lot of these cases. I mean, what's a probable cause when a guy's got
01:20:29.000
a lane violation and then you suddenly take every penny they have, well, not every penny,
01:20:33.600
but he thought that they were trafficking in gift cards. That's not enough. Yeah, that's not enough.
01:20:40.740
Trafficking in gift cards. It's an interesting business. How's that work, Jeffy? You know,
01:20:43.780
everything I know, everything, you know, more about crime than anyone I know. I'm just, I do know
01:20:47.660
that that's, I have read articles where that's how they're starting to, uh, you know, ideas of how to
01:20:52.260
clean money. So if you have a bunch of cash, you buy gift cards and then you send the gift cards
01:20:57.120
across the border or whatever, and then people can use them on Amazon, whatever you want, or you
01:21:01.720
get your, or, you know, some places like might give you money. And do we now know that you had a gift
01:21:06.300
card, a hundred dollars, I give you 75 bucks for the gift card. Good for both of us. Right. Is the
01:21:12.200
Gulf cartel, uh, dealing in a lot, a lot in gift cards now? Do we know that a lot of these drug
01:21:18.140
tracks at transactions wind up in gift cards? I don't, I'm advised not to answer.
01:21:28.220
I, I just, I, at some point we have to make this into a story. It seems like when we bring them up,
01:21:34.580
the audience gets pretty fired up about them. Uh, it just, it doesn't seem to have the, I guess
01:21:40.120
because it's just happening to a small amount of people. Um, but that's the type of liberty that
01:21:45.060
you have to fight for. Right. Well, you know, they're trying, right. And this story, it even
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talks about, uh, the West Virginia state house, uh, judiciary committee considered a bill that
01:21:53.640
would tie civil asset forfeiture to its respective criminal proceedings, which means, you know, if
01:21:59.000
you're acquitted criminally, the seized property can't be forfeited. They didn't, don't worry about
01:22:04.100
it. We're going to let that bill die. Wait, wait, hold on. So they're still taking it. So they're
01:22:07.940
taking it, even if that they're acquitted, they go through the trial, they get, they're acquitted of
01:22:12.760
the charges and they still take it. They still can now. Yeah. Yeah. Cause the bill failed. How
01:22:19.200
does the bill fail in that, in that case? I don't understand. I mean, here's some of the
01:22:23.560
things. Well, these people weren't even charged and they took it. Yeah. So like I said, if they
01:22:26.700
started, if the district attorney starts procedures saying that, uh, you know, this was, this was
01:22:32.060
property that we seized, then you have to go in and fight it to prove you don't go in and fight
01:22:38.680
it's yours. After so many days, they just take it. It's just, it's gone. And here's the
01:22:44.120
county in West Virginia has already auctioned off certain things that they've obtained from
01:22:49.920
people that they've confiscated. Right. Get like, listen to this list. A Nintendo Wii with
01:22:55.860
controllers. Okay. Was that done in a drug deal? Right. I mean, you were joking about
01:23:00.580
stereo. Yeah. Shoes, jumper cables, a Mickey mouse watch, a jogging stroller, Legos and other
01:23:08.660
toys. Why would you take Legos from someone's car? It's unbelievable. You're taking Legos
01:23:14.540
from people? Wow. That is really amazing. We're taking it all. We're taking the cash and
01:23:19.160
we're taking everything else. It's pretty bad. It strikes me as a similar issue to the,
01:23:23.840
the Kelo case. Uh, and they made a movie about it called little pink house recently in new
01:23:27.940
London where, you know, this woman built her little dream house near the water. And you
01:23:32.700
know, the, the town said, well, we want to bring Pfizer in here. So, uh, you guys are all
01:23:36.720
going to, we're going to buy your houses from you. And she's like, I'm not leaving.
01:23:39.520
And then they did eminent domain and they took her house and it went to up to the Supreme
01:23:43.940
Court. The Supreme Court in one of the worst decisions I think ever given, uh, sided with
01:23:49.360
the town and allowed her, uh, for just, you know, wow, it's helping the tax base. So therefore
01:23:54.340
it's good for the people to get rid of these houses, which of course would justify almost
01:23:58.140
anything. Justify almost anything. You can always come up with a projection that's going
01:24:01.680
to help the tax base. But the reaction to that ruling was pretty swift and pretty strong.
01:24:07.560
I think over 40 States passed constitutional amendments or laws in their States to prohibit
01:24:13.220
the government from doing that in, uh, in cases like this, where it's just business reasons.
01:24:18.980
Like, I mean, there's always going to be something for, you know, a highway or that the eminent
01:24:22.460
domain is, you know, we all know that that's part of it, but you know, for things like this,
01:24:26.840
where you're just bringing, well, we want to give it to a business instead of you.
01:24:29.680
That has been out. I think it's 42 States have passed things to stop that. And that's
01:24:33.340
the type of action that needs to happen here. You know, you need a bunch of people going
01:24:36.880
around and saying, wait a minute, we get that, that at times, you know, law enforcement
01:24:41.640
needs resources. They need these abilities. We're rooting for law enforcement to take out
01:24:44.840
criminals, but you can't just take stuff from people's car and pocket it. And even if they're
01:24:48.880
acquitted, still hold onto it. I mean, it's insanity.
01:24:51.100
And I, and there's no doubt I agree with you, but again, what we talked about in the past
01:24:55.320
too, but they, the, those in support of it talk about, well, look, we,
01:24:58.960
we can hamstring drug dealing networks by leaning on their finances, which can be
01:25:03.820
more effective than the criminal charges. And they also point out that the proceeds
01:25:12.680
That's incredible. They're actually bragging about taking people's stuff to buy
01:25:21.840
More of the Glenn Beck program coming up with Pat, Stu, and Jeffy.
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Did you hear the latest outrage from Cynthia Nixon?
01:25:40.040
She's going to be debating de Blasio or not de Blasio Cuomo coming up for the governor's
01:25:45.600
race. She's not, I mean, it doesn't seem all that competitive, but you know, it's been
01:25:52.280
And this got sent into, with the hashtag addicted to outrage. If you were taking these
01:25:58.140
submissions for the ridiculous things that people get outraged by, and we'd love for
01:26:02.320
you to send some in at world of Stu on Twitter. We have, you know, people now complaining that
01:26:07.780
the, do you remember they took the bars off of the box where the animal crackers were?
01:26:14.840
Well, now they're complaining about that, that that was not far enough. Apparently they left
01:26:17.760
they're outraged that that does not cure that the Nabisco CEO 06, you know, earned 600 times
01:26:24.660
what the average employee earns or something like that.
01:26:27.040
What does that have to do with the animal cracker box?
01:26:28.740
I don't know. I don't know. Or this one, a student yanked a make America great again
01:26:36.500
hat off of another's head and called it a racist and hateful symbol.
01:26:40.640
This one though I love is Cynthia Nixon. She is outraged. Why is she outraged? Well, she wants
01:26:46.080
the debate room to be 76 degrees when the debate happens because apparently is a well-known sexist
01:26:56.400
and it's notoriously sexist to keep a room cold. Oh, now, of course, it is also notorious
01:27:04.720
that if you don't keep a room cold, the people who are on television will start sweating.
01:27:10.520
And so every single debate stage and every single studio since 1960 has been filled with people in cold environments.
01:27:18.380
It's freezing in here all the time. I mean, how do you think? I mean, Jeff, he's not even sweating right now,
01:27:22.260
which is almost impossible to accomplish. That's because it's like 12 degrees in this room right now.
01:27:27.220
Yeah. Yeah. And very cold. So it's not close to 12.
01:27:29.780
Yeah, it's pretty cold. It's pretty cold in here. And that's because you want your you don't people
01:27:33.720
don't like watching people on TV sweating as they're talking. You know, it's just like ideally
01:27:39.040
you avoid it. You may expect it in an NBA game, but ideally you don't necessarily see that from
01:27:43.800
your anchors, especially with Jeffy since he sweats gravy and that's just unpleasant to look at.
01:27:49.220
Yes, it's not. You know what I mean? I thought we were talking about Coldwell.
01:27:51.480
Right. So Cynthia Nixon is saying that there is a study. There was a study apparently published
01:27:57.320
some time ago in Nature Climate Change in this journal, which said that the office buildings
01:28:02.900
base their climate control fluctuations on the needs of the male metabolism.
01:28:07.860
Since half of the workforce is female, the system is rigged against women who often have
01:28:12.600
colder extremities than their male counterparts. And it's even worse worse for women on the birth
01:28:17.940
control pill, which can raise women's bodies temperatures slightly, making them more responsive
01:28:22.040
to temperature fluctuations. So now we have to be out. Now, look, we all know there's real reasons
01:28:28.300
for that. And I hate the cold. I hate how cold it is in these studios, but I don't think it's
01:28:32.480
they're doing it, you know, to punish me, although Glenn may be.
01:28:36.440
But I know. But I mean, the idea is 76 degrees. That's way too hot. That's way too hot. I mean,
01:28:41.620
you just got to dress more warmly, I think. Right. You know, and she knows that. I know it's
01:28:46.080
just trying to make it again. It's not real outrage. It's an addiction to outrage.
01:28:59.600
Now, yesterday, yesterday we were talking about the potential. And maybe, or maybe I was talking
01:29:06.060
about it on my show on Pat Gray Unleashed. Done so many shows this week, I can't remember
01:29:12.080
But Alex Jones was caught in a little bit of a, just kind of a sticky wicket, if you
01:29:20.600
Yeah. He was showing how to navigate on his website, on InfoWars.
01:29:26.820
Which does seem to be a high percentage of their programming.
01:29:29.260
A lot of it is just how do you get to the male vitality formula pills.
01:29:34.840
So, yeah, they spend some time with that. So he's showing how to navigate on his smartphone.
01:29:40.360
And then he taps it, and it goes back to the original screen that had all of his tabs out
01:29:46.480
Yeah, it brings like, where you see like nine tabs on the screen at the same time.
01:30:01.600
Well, anybody who's surfing for trans porn, yes.
01:30:05.320
For those of us who don't necessarily frequent those sites, can't happen to you.
01:30:11.700
So I thought, okay, well, maybe somebody just went in there, and here's what he's going
01:30:21.420
And he says that all the time when there's no evidence of it.
01:30:29.680
And that's not what he said, which is fascinating to me.
01:30:35.500
Here's instead how he explained his little trans porn site.
01:30:41.480
And also, what about the trans porn on your phone, Alex?
01:30:52.560
You know, I saw a couple news articles about that.
01:30:55.420
I was, like, looking up some reporter we're trying to hire today and punched in some number.
01:31:00.900
Everybody's had porn popping on their phones hundreds of times.
01:31:03.380
And so I'm sitting there with a phone on air showing it to everybody because I couldn't
01:31:13.500
It wasn't the news blurted out because there was nothing there.
01:31:16.000
They blurted it to then say something was there.
01:31:19.560
I probably had porn menus pop up 500 times on my phone.
01:31:27.880
People that look at porn and people that lie about it.
01:31:33.480
I don't take phones on air that I look at porn on.
01:31:38.900
I mean, if I respond to half the attacks on me, it'll be ridiculous.
01:31:43.560
The Amazon ads, the Viagra ads, the weird non-plastic bag ads are taking my iPhone over.
01:31:49.620
iPhones didn't used to be that bad like Android.
01:31:52.280
It's a great point there with the plastic bag ban ads that are taking over.
01:31:56.980
He does seem to be admitting that he looks at porn.
01:32:00.980
So, like, you know, Alex Jones looking at porn or trans porn is absolutely not the worst thing about him.
01:32:06.920
Like, that's probably one of his better characteristics.
01:32:12.080
The trans community thought it was unusual because he bashes trans people so much.
01:32:17.000
And every time there's a trans story, he's, you know, he's raving about it, ranting about it.
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And so it's interesting that he's actually looking at trans porn when he's ranting about trans people.
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I mean, isn't the show that he's maybe not as transphobic as you once thought?
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There was a years ago, there was a morning show host in Texas City that I once lived in who got into a traffic accident while leaving a gay bar at two in the morning and then left the scene and went home or whatever.
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And so there's a lot of, you know, and he's a conservative talk show host.
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And so people were wondering, what were you doing at a gay bar?
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And he said, well, it shows you I'm not homophobic like they say I am, doesn't it?
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I'm telling you, it does bode to, you know, one of the things that I live by is clear your search menus.
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That's what you, one of the things your search.
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Is that, there seems to be a real issue with your phone.
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I mean, iPhone is like, it's a closed ecosystem.
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And when I'm looking for reporters, I will say it has never popped up while looking for reporters to hire.
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Well, is it possible that this particular trans porn star happens to have some journalism chops?
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Is it possible she's out covering the tough stories in between porn shoots?
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I don't know how much, Alex knows how tough it is to run a website and have people subscribe to it.
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So she did actually respond to this and she offered a free pass.
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No, you might as well, you might as well jump in there.
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But I think the days of the, uh, the porn sites all popping up on your screen, which did happen in the past are long gone.
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And, but it does, if, if you don't, uh, if you don't delete your search entry, if you type in a word and it pops, you know, then whatever you've been searching for or bringing up comes up as a reminder.
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I mean, I could have, but that's what I understand.
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Yeah, they've had it happen to him and they related that story to you.
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Can you imagine the amount of trans porn being tweeted and sent to Alex Jones?
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I mean, it's gotta be, people are probably trolling him constantly with it now.
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Hey, check out this new conspiracy theory I found, Link.
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This guy's gonna be opening up so much trans porn.
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It's not like we had a high, high opinion of Alex Jones.
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If this happened to a pastor while he was on his church, like, that might be notable.
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Like, the fact that Alex Jones does weird things is the least surprising thing that's ever heard.
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It's keeping him in the news other than being blocked from, you know, bringing people to his site.
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And by the way, let's say once again, we're absolutely opposed to Alex Jones being eliminated from all of these sites.
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Put his stuff back up and let the people decide, okay?
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Stop banning people because they have a different point of view.
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Now, again, Facebook is a private business and so are all the rest.
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The interesting part, I think, in this conversation, because I think we all agree that private businesses can do whatever they want.
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And we all agree that even though Alex Jones is trash, he should still be left on the platform.
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The interesting addition to this is a lot of these social networks get protections from, you know, legal action because they claim to be, hey, we're just user-generated content.
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And so, like, for example, if someone were to post child porn on Twitter, Twitter doesn't – the employees of Twitter don't go to prison for child porn, right?
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If someone posts a terroristic threat on Twitter, they then don't, you know –
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You can't go to Twitter for that and blame them.
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And they get protections from these situations, as they should, by the way.
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If someone posts a copyrighted material, then people, you know, if they do it and don't try to take it down, they can get in trouble for it.
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But generally speaking, if someone just posts something, they'll have a window there to take it down as soon as possible.
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And it's not like they're going to put Twitter out of business for it.
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But for that protection, there's a responsibility.
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And their responsibility is to not control the content.
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And Ted Cruz has brought this argument up before.
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I mean, again, I still think they should be able to to handle their own content.
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But that, you know, maybe you don't get the same protections.
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If you want to if you want to go that direction, you want to make it an all liberal social media site.
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You should, in my view, should be able to create it.
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If you want to create, you know, you know, liberal dot com and make it all people tweeting to each other about liberal things.
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So you're going to have to change the rule if you want if you want to do it that way.
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And you're subject to prosecution when somebody does something on your site.
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And the easiest thing is just let people decide.
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And I think their supposed good motives and the motives of many people in Congress are like, hey, you got to take a responsibility for what's on your site.
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And they all went in front of Congress and said, you know what we do?
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People will click on the things they want to click on.
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People will like the things that they want to like.
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Not your responsibility to manipulate what people believe.
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Even if they believe dumb things or inaccurate things.
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When there's other crimes that are committed like threats and child porn and stuff.
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That's your responsibility to get it off as soon as possible.
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Alex Jones wants to say something that's blatantly false over and over and over and over again.
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I mean, it's not like I believed in the 9-11 theories to begin with.
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It's not like I really thought that the Sandy Hook tragedy was a false flag operation.
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You know, there might have been some people who did.
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But I think any normal human being knew that that was an actual event that occurred.
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One thing that Alex was right on is that everything starts at the Gulf of Tonkin.
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You could go back a little bit further to the Rothschilds.
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Pat, Stu, and Jeffy for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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The president told them yesterday that they need to be careful.
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Because what they're doing isn't fair to the American people.
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Now, he keeps threatening people with, I guess, censorship?
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Or I don't know what the threat exactly is to Google here.
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You know, all of these warnings about speech are somewhat troubling to me.
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Well, he's just mad, you know, because the head of Google just told the Senate,
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some Senate committee that, no, I'm not coming to talk to you.
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This is another, to me, somewhat of an example of the type of story where you have to ask yourself
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If he starts saying, like, okay, we're passing this bill, we're trying to pass this bill,
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here's what we're doing, that is a legitimate thing to cover.
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But he just says stuff for the point of hearing his own voice.
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It's just something that Donald Trump has done his entire life.
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And this was that soccer World Cup thing where Mexico, United States, and Canada is going
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to host the World Cup, like, in 2026 or something.
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And so they were there at the Oval yesterday giving him presents.
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You talk about him loving, messing with the press.
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They gave him a referee wallet with a yellow card and a red card.
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And he pulled out the red card and joked around about throwing it to the press, you
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know, giving him the red card, kicking him out of the game.
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It's like his way of saying, I don't like this one thing I saw.
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I mean, the Senate committee is mad because the head of Google won't show up.
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And it's not like you can certainly argue that that's not the right way for a presidency to
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But you also have to recognize what is occurring in the world.
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And you're going to drive yourself crazy if you panic every time Donald Trump tweets something
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If you're in the media, he's probably doing it five times a day.
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And either you have to get past it and say, well, he's tweeted this sentiment 25 times
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Maybe we just let this one go by until he starts doing something about it.
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And then at that point, I mean, I certainly have my support in opposing Donald Trump trying
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Donald Trump is going to continue to say and tweet outrageous things.
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And then so like 90 percent of those things you just don't worry about.
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O'Reilly was the first one that sort of talked about that with us when he said just like,
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And you start thinking about it when you when you live your life in that world where nothing
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And for example, Russia, if you ignore his tweets and what he says, he's pretty tough