Trump Arrest Day： This Is POLITICS, Not Justice ｜ Guests： Andrew McCarthy & Sean Patrick Flanery ｜ 4⧸4⧸23
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2 hours and 3 minutes
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Summary
Former President Donald Trump is charged with seven felonies, including conspiracy to obstruct justice, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, and conspiracy to bribe a public servant. The former president is also accused of lying to Congress and obstructing justice.
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But I do think that it is a somber day that we're seeing a former president, you know,
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But it's a reminder that no one's above the law.
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How would you counsel people that we're looking at a moment that we ought not be celebrating?
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Eric Swalwell issued a statement calling the indictment, quote, a somber day for America.
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Adam Schiff, who was one of the managers who led Trump's first impeachment trial, told MSNBC's
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Rachel Maddow last night that the indictment marks a sad and sobering day.
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You called Trump's indictment a solemn day for our nation.
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But the president of the United States, the former president, is not above the law.
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And I will say, this day where we're getting this thing that we've begged and pleaded for
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The thing we've told you is the most important thing that could ever happen.
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And the thing we've been begging and pleading for on the air for seven years, that's the
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But here on the broadcast floor, somber, sad, sad.
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Well, Michael Isikoff seems to be a little above the law.
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He has an exclusive that Trump is to be charged with 34 counts of felony.
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But it's, well, it's, no one is against, nobody is above the law.
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It would be the person who leaked it to Isikoff.
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Well, I mean, I think there's a special place in hell for Michael Isikoff, if you remember.
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I mean, I think it was ironic today that it is coming from Isikoff.
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Do you remember, in 2016, when Paul Manafort joined the Trump campaign, Politico reported
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that one of our embassy people, Chalupa, do you remember Chalupa?
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Oh, believe me, I think about Chalupas all the time.
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So Chalupa was working with the embassy staff in Ukraine to raise alarm bells on Paul Manafort
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She said, quote, the embassy worked directly with reporters researching Trump, Manafort,
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and Russia to point them in the right direction.
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The embassy was pointing reporters in the right direction.
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Now, one of the hacked DNC emails that came out, released on WikiLeaks,
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was between Chalupa and the former DNC communications director.
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In that email, Chalupa checks in, reporting she's going to speak to the Library of Congress
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She also says that she has invited journalist Michael Isikoff
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and that she had been working with him over the past few weeks.
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Now, that's weird because Isikoff was the guy who wrote the article for Yahoo News
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that detailed some of the things in the Steele dossier.
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In fact, Christopher Steele leaked the dossier directly to Isikoff.
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And then it was Isikoff's story that was used as cooperating evidence
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So Isikoff played kind of a crucial role in the last crime.
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But there seems to be a problem with the federal government enforcing some of these laws.
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Now, I just tweeted out the business-related crimes and the sex and drug crimes.
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Now, so far, on his laptop, on Hunter Biden's laptop, only 60 felonies have been found.
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And these aren't things that you have to, you know, really go snoop around for.
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Now, I thought to myself, you know, the FBI is so bogged down on January 6th and other things like that.
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There's got to be a few local DAs that would like to make a name for themselves and indict the president's son and maybe the whole family on some of these crimes.
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A lot of these crimes happen in the District of Columbia.
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There's got to be somebody in a district where these crimes were committed that you just want to see justice served on this somber, somber day.
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Now, you aren't saying that people should go after Hunter Biden as revenge, are you?
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And if a former president isn't above the law, certainly just some random citizen who...
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But also, it happens to be, you know, escort service's number one national client.
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I come back to this often when I think about the Hunter Biden thing.
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I feel like if I did any of the things on this list, I would definitely go to jail.
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May I ask you, if on my laptop, I had saved me with a Russian hooker, not in America, one
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that actually works for Russia, a Russian hooker, and I was weighing crack on my crack cocaine
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Do you think I would be just out of a job, or do you think I might be in jail?
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Again, I feel like I'm talking about a foreign country that I don't understand the customs,
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but my understanding of how this works is, if you do something illegal, typically you
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If you're caught on video doing it, you definitely go to jail.
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Yeah, but see, I didn't think that was the way this worked.
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I honestly thought that if you were to light a building on fire, let's say a police precinct,
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if you were to take it over and light it on fire-
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I thought that would make you go to jail for a really long time.
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You look a lot like Stu, but I think you're a Stu from another universe.
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They'll pop in from time to time, and they'll be like, what's this country all about?
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My country in the other dimension is like sane, and they-
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I suppose all your children don't go to the hospital within the first eight months just
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Oh my gosh, what a hate-mongering universe you're in.
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Now that I'm thinking about it, you know, all I can think about as I come to these realizations
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We don't, we're not, you know, we don't, when we go to commercial break, we're not celebrating
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and doing shots of fireball in between the breaks.
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We are sad and sort of sober about this situation.
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Now, when they said sobering, that this news is sobering, is that because they're drunk?
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We're currently drunk after our big party last night celebrating this event, and now
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it's sobering being on the air and not being able to drink.
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We're looking at this and we're saying, what a tragedy.
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We've lied to you over and over and over again.
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We went the extra step of making Russian stuff up with Michael Isikoff.
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In fact, we've been telling you that these protests are mostly peaceful and they're burning
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Well, we're going to try to struggle through today.
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As soon as that mugshot comes out, we're going to race.
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It would be something that I would look at and go, how did they-
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It's a sad, sombering, saddening, sad, somber day.
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What do you, I mean, do they actually believe we're going to think they think this is a sad moment in our history?
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They pushed for it for years and years and years and years.
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It has been their top priority, their fascination, their obsession for longer than any of us can remember putting this one person behind bars in some way.
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It's them thinking they're getting some big victory.
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I don't know if it's going to work out that way, but that's what they certainly believe today.
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Well, I mean, you know, you've built a case around your chief witness, Michael Cohen, who is a felon and a convicted liar who also has a lot of hatred for Donald Trump.
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You know, and he's also the big new left wing media star.
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It's fascinating because, you know, I, when Michael Cohen was working for Donald Trump, I believed he probably committed approximately three crimes per day.
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Even when he worked for Donald Trump, he was his fixer.
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And now is saying, oh, well, now Trump is the worst guy.
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I haven't changed what my analysis on Michael Cohen.
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Now, you know, it's this is what they do every single time.
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It's somber and sad and sombering and sobering and sober and sad.
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So in American greatness, there is a list of 20 things that Donald Trump did not do that I think are, you know, I think are pretty good.
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For instance, Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by destroying federally subpoenaed emails and devices in order to hide evidence.
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He also didn't violate any federal laws by sending classified government communications on his own through an unsecured homebrewed server like Hillary Clinton.
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Trump didn't violate federal law by hiring through three paywalls a foreign national who was prohibited from working on presidential campaigns to compile a dossier to smear a presidential opponent.
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Trump didn't violate federal campaign laws by hiding her payments as legal services to Christopher Steele through bookkeeping deceptions.
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Trump did not, as Bill Clinton did, use crony to search out high paying New York jobs for, you know, for, you know, maybe testimony, you know, before a special counsel.
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Trump didn't, as Bill Clinton did, receive $500,000 honorarium for speaking in Moscow while his wife approved the longstanding and lucrative deal with the Kremlin for North American uranium.
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He also did not, as Barack Obama did, promised Vladimir Putin that he would be flexible on missile defense if during his own reelection, Putin would, in return, give him some space.
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Trump did not boast publicly, as Joe Biden did, that he had issued U.S. foreign aid monies as leverage to have the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor who may have been looking into his son and the Biden family crimes there in Ukraine.
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You know what? Another thing Trump didn't do is enrich all of his family members through China and Ukraine and Russia, which is which is weird, which is weird.
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But I'm only halfway through the crimes that he didn't commit, that the Democrats did.
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According to the media, they're very sad, sober, and it's a somber day for them.
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As we see a president of the United States be indicted on local charges, but a felony, which is weird.
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But former President Donald Trump is expected to be arraigned today on about 30 charges, according to the mainstream media.
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The indictment remains sealed, so there's no way you could officially know any of the charges.
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Yeah, in theory, even Donald Trump does not currently know what the charges are.
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Until he goes to that room where he will hear them for the first time, that's when he learns about them.
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And so it's important to note that everything we know, we quote unquote know about these charges, we know from mainstream media reporting right now.
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So really, this could go any number of directions.
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Now, they've been leaking to mainstream media like crazy, so you can believe that some of it probably is accurate.
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But I'm sure Bragg will be right on top of prosecuting that.
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He's going to be very concerned about those leaks.
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We have Arfer Bigglesworth there at the – do we not?
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Bragg, I'm currently hovering above Trump Tower.
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Looking down with a telescope and I'm trying to see if Donald Trump is currently on the clipper.
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We're hoping we can get this information to you to see if he's doing number one on number two.
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Okay, all right, we're not – Arfer, we'll call you – we'll call you when we – when you have something – yes.
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That would be Arfer Bigglesworth, who is up in the Mercury Chopper, apparently, today.
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He will go in and surrender himself today at some point early this morning.
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And then I think it's at 1 o'clock he's arraigned, 1 or 2 o'clock Eastern time.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene is hosting a protest with Trump supporters at 1030, which just doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
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Just doesn't – you know, maybe it's just me, but not a good idea.
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It does seem like the type of thing that could go awry.
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Perhaps people being baited into stuff and perhaps counter-protests that –
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Mostly peaceful counter-protesters may show at this particular event.
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So, we have the indictment coming out, and I'm all a tingle.
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Now, this is – this is kind of a big thing because, again, we're learning today that no one is above the law, especially with D.A. Bragg.
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He is – he's quite an amazing – I mean, yes.
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Okay, in Manhattan, I mean, you know, felony assault, you know, is probably a little above the law or major crime.
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You know, last year, there was a convicted sex offender who put a man in a coma and walked free.
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This is – I mean, his defining characteristic is letting people off for crimes they committed.
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That is legitimately the only thing that Alvin Bragg is known for before this.
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But doesn't it make sense that you let people off for crimes they committed and you prosecute people for crimes they didn't commit?
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And we don't know if – I mean, we have no idea what these 30 felony charges are.
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I guess – what are they – every single time it's written down in a piece of paper as a separate count type of thing?
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We're going to find out some of this later today.
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It just – and right now, they're just focused on so many other stupid, sad, sober things.
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Now, CNN had Wolf Blitzer on yesterday and still the hairiest guy on television and, you know, who doesn't want to see that?
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America is flocking to the Wolf Blitzer extravaganza every day.
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Um, but, uh, he was on yesterday and he said, we're getting – I don't know why he always shouts – we're getting new CNN polling revealing how the American public is reacting to the former president's indictment.
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If I asked you now, how are you reacting, Stu, to the indictment?
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Well, I haven't seen it yet, so it would be hard to react to that indictment.
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I think it's probably BS, but until I see it, I can't be sure.
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We went into the field – did you, Wolf – we went into the field and we did this new exclusive CNN poll – what a stupid sentence that is – conducted by SSRS just after the indictment last Thursday.
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64% of Americans approve of the indictment of Donald Trump.
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I mean, I guess we're no better because we're like – this is hogwash.
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I mean, my guess is just from the long and storied and sobering kind of saga that we've gone through with Donald Trump, they always are like, this is it.
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So, I mean, judging from past performance, I'd say this one, nope.
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Ninety-four percent of Democrats approve of the indictment.
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That's, uh, uh, that's Saddam Hussein voting numbers.
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Remember we used to say, there's no way that's real.
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Sixty-two percent of independents and twenty-one percent of Republicans.
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So, twenty-one percent of Republicans approve of the indictment.
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That's a higher number than I would have expected.
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Which means we're not all in lockstep, perhaps.
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And we can't judge it on the merits until we know what it is.
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But what we know so far, which I would remind you is from mainstream media reporting, so
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But what we know so far, it seems to be very, very thin.
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I mean, the idea that we've had multiple other people look at these same charges, all of them
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also hated Donald Trump, and none of them brought charges on this.
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Well, Sue, we went out in the field, and we did this new exclusive CNN poll, and we
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further asked respondents whether they believe Donald Trump's payment to Stormy Daniels was
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illegal, unethical, not illegal, not wrong at all, or not sure.
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We're asking the American people, what was it again?
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Now, it should be noted that, generally speaking, it's not illegal to pay somebody to keep an
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Otherwise, Bill Clinton would have been rotten in prison for a very long time.
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Um, but this case, 37% of the American people said the payment was illegal.
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I'd like to, Wolf, I'd like to, uh, have a follow-up question.
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Uh, because I get, I would guess maybe 99% would say, uh, I'm not sure.
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They have no idea what they're even talking about.
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So, 52% of independents, 52% say, uh, yeah, this was, uh, this is political.
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76% of all Americans say, yeah, this was just a political, uh, driven event.
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Arfer, uh, Bigglesworth, apparently he is in the helicopter now.
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Well, I'm reporting on the Donald Trump arraignment, and I was asked to stop hovering outside of
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Oh, sorry, I turned my helicopter out there for a second.
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So, I've been doing lots of research on today, and all the implications to our country on
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Well, one thing I've done, and I've been looking for clues on what exactly went down, how did
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all of this happen, and in that process, I've watched 37 Stormy Daniels movies.
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That's a, that's a, is that an actual movie that Stormy Daniels is in?
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i thought i recognized her from space which is a kind of um
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less high less highbrow uh mel brooks movie wow yeah yeah
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um yeah she had actually a bit of a crossover career before she was known for the trump stuff
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she was in uh she was in a couple of the judd apatow yeah 40 year 40 year old virgin and knocked
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hello america welcome to the glenn beck program all right the indictment is coming down today
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uh donald trump is turning himself in going to be arraigned uh this afternoon we should know more
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on what michael isikoff is leaking as 34 uh charges apparently 34 felonies uh today going to be charged
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against donald trump we will find out all about it but i want to do uh some speculation because that's
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as best as you can get right now and what does this look like um are they going to be able to gag
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annie mccarthy is uh here with us hi uh andrew how are you sir glenn i'm doing great how are you
00:45:44.240
ah good i mean if you listen to the press it's a it's a somber and sad and sobering day and it is
00:45:53.420
all of those things i just don't believe they believe that um can you give us some idea of what
00:46:00.460
today is going to look like well i it's going to look like the beginning of a process that
00:46:08.880
i think is being misdescribed in the press because we're we're kind of a step behind
00:46:18.560
uh what they're explaining to you and the reason this is supposed to be a sad and somber day in the
00:46:25.840
uh in the theater before us is that this is the beginning of the criminal uh justice process where
00:46:31.660
someone is brought in and arraigned on a set of formal allegations known as an indictment and that
00:46:38.360
begins the formal process of a criminal case but i think glenn just as alvin bragg um would be better
00:46:47.800
understood uh by the public as an elected progressive democrat than as a law enforcement official
00:46:54.320
you know back in the back probably a decade ago it was still the case even in manhattan
00:47:01.540
that if you were to campaign as someone who was whose agenda was to put the uh the law enforcement
00:47:10.900
power of the office in the service of a partisan agenda to go after one particular nemesis of the
00:47:18.420
party that would have been disqualifying now it's what's expected in manhattan and this
00:47:24.080
process is not really in the end it's not about whether they can take a trifling case and it
00:47:30.800
really is trifling it's a case bragg would never bring against anyone else but it's it's not whether
00:47:36.040
they can bring a trifling set of allegations and prove them and donald trump is found guilty or not
00:47:42.320
guilty this is about making the process the penalty this is about um making this as financially
00:47:50.220
prohibitive emotionally wrenching and personally humiliating as they can for trump and it's it's
00:47:59.160
kind of the the criminal justice system version of the of the kavanaugh confirmation hearing it's it's
00:48:04.280
to create an interorum effect um which conveys to conservatives and and trump supporters and anyone else who
00:48:14.380
opposes this bolshevik left that this is what we've got for you uh if you dare to oppose us and that's
00:48:21.860
what this is really about it's not so much a criminal justice process which is you know we can go through
00:48:26.800
the nuts and bolts of that but we should acknowledge i think what's really happening here so can you this
00:48:32.320
because now i mean you can indict a ham sandwich is the old saying um but it's got to go to a jury and
00:48:39.780
got to go through a trial now do you think you can get a fair trial in manhattan for donald trump
00:48:46.840
i think if the if the court were fair um the answer to that would be yes i mean i i tried terrorists in
00:48:56.460
the 1990s in that same little half square mile area of manhattan only eight blocks away from where they
00:49:04.560
had bombed the world trade center and you know terrorists weren't uh were very unpopular obviously
00:49:10.320
with new york juries but no one who looked at that case didn't think that we got a fair jury for it
00:49:16.640
but if the process is rigged that you know we got a fair jury because the process wasn't rigged we had a
00:49:22.220
we had a fair judge we had a you know due process of law um the question is is is the court going to be
00:49:30.380
as rigged against trump as the da is if that's the case then you know it's already over how is this
00:49:37.640
possible how did this i mean it it is it's stunning i think to most americans to see what's happening in
00:49:45.440
washington dc with our court system what's happening in new york with our court system um it's one thing
00:49:52.460
for the da it's another to have the the court system so far gone on politics well it's really
00:50:02.500
a reflection glenn of of what's happened in the culture and and the reason i i can say that with
00:50:08.160
confidence is in the federal system uh judge uh judges and district attorneys uh who are u.s
00:50:17.860
attorneys in the federal system they're not elected officials they're appointed by the president
00:50:22.440
in theory the the uh credentials for those kinds of positions are that you will uphold the rule of
00:50:29.260
law without fear or favor you won't use your power as a partisan weapon and we have them vetted by the
00:50:35.700
at least in theory to make sure that they're the kind of people who won't do that that's not what we
00:50:40.680
have in the in the state system these positions are elected positions and at a certain point the the um
00:50:48.680
well springs of of funding on the progressive left george soros his name is mentioned all the time
00:50:55.340
but he's hardly uh the only figure who's important here but they realized that you know in these one
00:51:01.940
party blue cities da's positions there virtually was not a campaign at all for them they were decided by
00:51:10.740
the party bosses like who would fill the slot they're not competitive races they were five figure
00:51:16.120
campaigns at best and probably in the low five figures so these guys realized they could come in
00:51:21.980
with you know six seven figures of funding blow away the competition install their own uh progressive
00:51:29.400
prosecutors into these slots uh and that's real power you know it's one thing to take over the courts
00:51:36.280
or to take over a legislature that they're kind of slow moving institutions but if you're a prosecutor
00:51:42.520
you have real instant power you can decide who gets charged who doesn't get charged doesn't matter
00:51:48.860
how aggressive the police are uh it's up to the prosecutor what happens to these cases so if you
00:51:54.940
get a progressive ideologue in that kind of a position with no effective political check on him
00:52:00.740
that's real power and that's what's happened in these uh in these municipalities so tell me about what
00:52:06.380
you know about the case um i mean we have heard that this is uh about stormy daniels but that is
00:52:13.800
something that the fec passed on uh the uh federal system passed on the statue of limitations is over
00:52:23.800
and it's a misdemeanor and he has made it into a felony charge and there are 34 felonies that's what
00:52:31.180
we've heard what do you so what do you think you know well i think he's taking two transactions which
00:52:38.920
are these uh hush money arrangements with two women who claim to have had uh affairs with trump in
00:52:46.160
around 2006 uh and who were uh paid off in different ways in the uh waning weeks of the 2016 election when
00:52:56.680
their uh extortionate leverage was highest to try to uh you know get paid off to remain silent about
00:53:03.380
uh their past interaction with trump uh so this is all seven years old that's when these non-disclosure
00:53:09.800
arrangements were done and i think the way they're getting 34 counts out of it glenn is the kind of
00:53:16.660
abuse of prosecutorial authority that they warn against in the justice department manual where they
00:53:23.400
tell you not to not to stack up counts where it's not necessary a lot of times rogue prosecutors will
00:53:30.160
try to camouflage with quantity the lack of quality of the evidence of their case and it's easy to do
00:53:38.240
this you know if you and i were in a stolen uh let's say we're in a stolen property conspiracy we're
00:53:44.400
going to try to transfer and steal stolen property i hand it to you to say glenn what do you think this
00:53:49.620
is worth and you hand it back to me after you've appraised it and i said well take another
00:53:53.160
look and you know by the time we've passed it back and forth eight times each one of the times we
00:53:58.440
hand it from one to the other is a is a separate felony now no one sensible ever charges it that way
00:54:04.460
there's just two of us and one set of stolen property but you can see the mischief that can be
00:54:09.040
made uh by if you get hyper technical about what they say a distribution means so what i think happened
00:54:15.700
here is especially with with stormy daniels this is the easiest one to explain uh michael cohen
00:54:22.860
lays out the money and then they decide they're going to pay cohen by making it look like he's
00:54:28.020
getting paid legal fees rather than being reimbursed for a loan uh so they decide to pay him over 12
00:54:34.760
installments they have him submit an invoice and then uh trump or someone in the trump organization
00:54:41.640
pays him a check so what i imagine is with each individual payment there's an invoice there's a check
00:54:47.120
and there's some entry on the records so just you know based on what i i the example i just gave you
00:54:53.420
can easily see where we could come up with 36 charges right just just from that even though it's
00:54:58.800
all one scheme so that's the kind of game they're playing here and the idea glenn is there's not much
00:55:05.840
evidence here but it's a subtle way of trying to convey to the jury that this guy must be a terrible
00:55:11.800
guy because otherwise why would the state have lodged 34 counts again correct oh my god he must
00:55:16.780
be mickey barnes so so um when you look at these charges first of all is it illegal for donald trump
00:55:26.060
to pay either of these women off no non-disclosure agreements are a staple of civil litigation in the
00:55:34.000
united states they happen all the time and that's not even immoral i mean what they were charging
00:55:38.820
may have been immoral but for him to pay them off it's not immoral and it's not uh illegal it's
00:55:45.860
a business transaction that happens all the time right so what's going on is brag in his mind as a
00:55:53.780
progressive democrat he has decided that it can't possibly be that the democrats ran an atrocious
00:55:59.440
candidate against trump it must be that he stole the 2016 election and the way he did it was by having
00:56:06.380
these uh dark uh hush money arrangements which he didn't disclose before election day and that's
00:56:13.480
why mrs clinton was defeated so this has to be pursued as if it were a violation of the campaign
00:56:19.480
finance laws and mind you glenn if it actually was a campaign finance expenditure which i don't think it
00:56:25.060
was as a matter of law trump wouldn't have had to disclose it even if he considered it one until long
00:56:31.260
after the 2016 election so this whole thing is like left-wing fantasy land but that's what we're
00:56:37.160
so wait a minute so but they're trying to get him because they claimed it was uh legal which seems
00:56:43.780
more reasonable to me that it was illegal and you are taking and you are paying somebody and you're
00:56:50.580
having your attorney have them sign a paper so it's an illegal it's it's a legal expense in in my book it
00:56:57.080
would be much more than campaign if he would have made a campaign event um uh expenditure
00:57:02.880
then he's using campaign money for personal uh stuff i mean that would have been worse wouldn't
00:57:09.540
have yeah they would have gotten him on that this is this is not one of these things where there's a
00:57:15.420
way out there's not i mean they get them coming and going if he didn't disclose it it's because he was
00:57:21.980
uh intentionally violating the campaign finance laws that if he had disclosed it as a campaign
00:57:27.340
expense they would have said how outrageous it was that he would use campaign funds for something
00:57:32.420
like this so yes it's uh it's costco you know i mean they just get them whichever way he goes
00:57:37.620
giving um the other side the benefit of the doubt giving the prosecution and i don't know if you can
00:57:44.040
but try giving them a benefit of doubt is there any way you could make this case make sense
00:57:51.780
without politics no well no but you know to broaden the lens uh brad's agenda with respect to
00:58:02.720
everyone who's not named donald trump is to not prosecute correct so what we have in new york is we
00:58:08.880
have very serious crimes which are felonies which which he either pleads down to misdemeanors or
00:58:15.900
just as commonly doesn't prosecute at all so the thought that anybody in new york would be prosecuted
00:58:23.160
for misdemeanor falsification of records is is very hard to take because we have people committing
00:58:29.960
serious crimes here who don't get prosecuted so it's really hard to take the politics out of this
00:58:35.580
glenn plus you know just to go back to the beginning he's an elected official he's not
00:58:42.300
an appointed law enforcement official he got elected promising to leverage his power against trump
00:58:48.620
okay we're talking to andy mccarthy hang on just a second uh for one minute andy i want to come back
00:58:55.040
and i want to talk to you about how does a misdemeanor become a felony and then also they're
00:59:00.940
talking about a gag order and i don't even understand how you could legally do that uh to
00:59:07.320
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now isn't the exact same thing that donald trump is accused of doing
01:00:25.060
isn't it the same thing that hillary clinton was accused and convicted of doing or her campaign
01:00:31.920
in well what he's formally going to be accused of is falsifying trump organization business records
01:00:42.420
and the way they get that into a felony is in new york the misdemeanor can become a felony
01:00:49.860
if the person was trying to cover up another crime by falsifying the records so i don't even
01:00:58.300
think they're going to be able to prove if it's a fair proceeding that there's a falsification of
01:01:03.760
records because for that you have to show that the person acted with uh an intent to defraud and i
01:01:09.760
don't see any intent to defraud here there's nobody who was conceivably harmed by the way that they
01:01:15.080
booked this thing but it's even more preposterous to say that he concealed another crime because the
01:01:21.320
crime i think they want to point to is campaign finance violations the failure to disclose this
01:01:27.820
as a campaign uh in-kind donation and not only was it not one but you know more to the point
01:01:36.220
when the new york statue talks about concealing another crime what they're obviously talking about
01:01:42.260
is a new york penal crime not a federal campaign finance crime so i don't think that bragg even
01:01:49.840
has jurisdiction to to enforce the federal campaign finance laws if there was a violation here which
01:01:57.980
i don't think there was but didn't hillary clinton um wasn't she charged because of the steel dossier she
01:02:05.000
marked it down as a legal expense isn't that the same pretty much the same thing yes
01:02:11.940
in other words misrepresenting what was an in-kind uh campaign contribution as as legal
01:02:19.000
right fees that's exactly right yes correct and so she paid a fine and that's a misdemeanor
01:02:24.760
glenn that's the other thing here nobody gets nobody gets prosecuted for uh for these campaign
01:02:33.020
finance violations the obama campaign in 2008 had like a record i don't i don't remember it's like
01:02:38.900
two and a half million dollar violation they paid a three hundred thousand dollar fine the last person
01:02:45.400
prominently who was uh prosecuted for one of these things john edwards the case was a disaster
01:02:51.080
and this is actually an amusing bit because you know for bragg to win uh he has to show that trump
01:02:58.960
not only knew that he had committed a campaign finance violation but that he acted with that in
01:03:04.460
mind and falsifying the records i don't know how he could have known this was a campaign finance
01:03:09.160
violation putting aside that it wasn't uh when in the edwards case there's two federal bureaucracies
01:03:15.440
that regulate this the justice department and the federal election commission they disagreed on
01:03:21.020
whether it was a campaign violation the fbc said no the justice department prosecuted it and then the
01:03:27.120
judge looked at it and said well you know maybe it is maybe it isn't he let it go to the jury and
01:03:32.240
the jury said no so who who knows what a campaign finance unbelievable andy i don't i don't know if
01:03:39.100
you have time but if you do i'd like to hang hang uh hold you over for the next break here in a couple
01:03:44.260
of minutes because i do want to get into his attorney and also what can they do can they silence
01:03:50.940
donald trump can you hang out for a few yes sure great andy mccarthy andrew mccarthy uh former
01:03:57.320
u.s prosecutor knows this like the back of his hand more in a minute the glenn back program
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01:05:25.820
indictments coming down uh president trump's going to be leaving his uh his uh apartment at the
01:05:41.540
trump tower in a little while and uh head to the arraignment in manhattan court andrew mccarthy is
01:05:47.840
with us he is um he's an amazing guy when it comes to stuff like this he's got it all locked up you
01:05:54.540
can watch the uh mccarthy report the podcast or listen to it the mccarthy report podcast all of his work
01:06:01.180
um is uh is fantastic on this and more all of his work is up at national review dot com and you can
01:06:08.680
follow him on twitter at andrew c mccarthy um so andy tell me about um the representation that
01:06:19.000
donald trump has does he have a serious attorney yeah he's got good lawyers in new york glenn and
01:06:26.000
and he added a an experienced a former prosecutor white-collar defense lawyer who's very good was added
01:06:33.320
to the team uh yesterday and this is a business records case in the end so it's good to have
01:06:38.040
somebody who knows the nuts and bolts of how you make a case like that and how you dismantle it okay
01:06:43.200
um and there's talk about um trump the saying things and them charging him um with additional
01:06:53.620
crimes if he's speaking out against the district attorney i have heard that there's a possible gag
01:07:00.520
order from the judge is any of that possible with a presidential candidate who's currently running
01:07:07.500
yeah i don't think that there's a constitutional case for any gag order on trump now there's a long
01:07:14.620
tradition glenn that judges can gag the lawyers in cases before them because as a part of the privilege of
01:07:23.460
practicing before a bar you surrender some of your rights and also to get discovery in the case you
01:07:29.360
you know you have to comply with the judge's directive but donald trump is not a volunteer
01:07:34.400
he's being dragged in uh you know against his will obviously on this uh so it's not like he agreed
01:07:41.400
as a as a price of participating in this process to surrender any of his rights uh and this is one of
01:07:48.820
the the uh you know million awful things that we're going to have to deal with where you have this
01:07:55.120
intrusion of law enforcement process into electoral politics which should never happen unless there's
01:08:00.540
a really serious crime uh supported by convincing evidence every day we're going to come up against
01:08:06.500
uh some question of how this criminal process inhibits somebody who's trying to run for office which he's got
01:08:14.480
a right to do but it's it's particularly untoward i think glenn for this to happen in new york and i don't mean to
01:08:21.480
sound like a broken record on this but they have chosen in this state to make their criminal justice system
01:08:29.000
infused with electoral politics they elect the district attorney it's a political process from the beginning so the idea
01:08:36.560
that brag after after politicizing this thing the way he's done he can now file an indictment and now
01:08:43.440
everybody's got to behave and act like this is all controlled by due process rules after he spent like
01:08:49.340
months and over a year poisoning the jury pool now trump has to shut up uh because we're worried about
01:08:56.880
tainting the jury pool i mean it's that's preposterous ridiculous um all right last question how do you see
01:09:03.400
this working out in the end if the case is presided fairly um by the judge then this case should be
01:09:13.580
thrown out on the papers long before it ever gets to trial i think the statute of limitations isn't that
01:09:19.200
horrifying and andrew that that you have to say that if this case is fairly adjudicated
01:09:26.380
in america glenn if you would talk if we had had this conversation three weeks ago i i would have
01:09:34.120
said um if the district attorney faithfully executes his office then trump will never be charged right
01:09:41.140
now we're on to the next phase right it's crazy just crazy andrew thank you so much we uh look forward
01:09:47.300
to um hearing your uh uh your words on on exactly what things mean as soon as you can take a look at
01:09:54.120
him thank you so much thanks so much you bet make sure you're following andrew mccarthy he'll have
01:09:59.380
great stuff out on it today i'm sure you can follow him on twitter at andrew c mccarthy he's not a guy
01:10:07.460
that always falls the way i expect him to fall either i mean he he is um very very fair on on all of it
01:10:16.060
and speaks his mind and you said he earlier he knows this like the back of his hand that is absolutely
01:10:20.420
true and this is just he knows every little bit of how all the intricacies work here and it's tough
01:10:26.440
because at times you kind of boil this down to well this just feels unfair like the the statute of
01:10:32.840
limitations obviously is over this is ridiculous it's interesting to hear how far they have to stretch
01:10:38.940
to get this done and he really laid that out i thought really well uh there i it's it really is
01:10:44.800
one of those situations where the last few years i think the only thing that is held has been the
01:10:53.440
courts right like it feels like so many things have been overturned so many things have gone the way
01:11:01.320
that is not the how our foundations were intended i i think local and state courts have been dicey i think
01:11:10.600
you're getting that oh yeah i think you're getting that feeling because of the supreme court i know but
01:11:15.420
that that is the court that's the system holding yes it's the only one it's the only thing i mean
01:11:20.820
we've had other good decisions as well but it feels like there's been a lot of things that have gone
01:11:25.320
down these roads you know like the you know like the um uh the the eviction ban yeah remember that yeah
01:11:33.560
they just threw this out there and just like wait a minute there's no way the president can do this
01:11:37.700
right and it got all the way there to the supreme court and the last the last line of defense said
01:11:44.000
okay no he can't do that and that's the only thing holding yes and i feel like we're at this is really
01:11:49.360
where we are the system we can't say the system has been overturned because this is only part of
01:11:53.840
the system alvin bragg is part of the system but as a whole the system is designed to overturn things
01:12:01.320
like this it's you you're supposed to be able to have enough checks and balances to have it so that
01:12:06.540
one random guy who wants to make a name for himself and please his uh donors um can't get away
01:12:15.120
with overturning presidential candidates and man i don't know we are we are near that that line i
01:12:22.820
really hope the system holds again i i think i think it will in this case i'm not as certain in
01:12:30.760
some of the others but this one i think is so completely ridiculous and so obviously over the
01:12:37.900
line that i think the courts will stop this eventually but you know they're gonna drag them
01:12:42.800
through hell before that'll be a year yeah and it may very well be after the primary or after the
01:12:47.980
election before we actually see this overturned just crazy um all right i want to remind you that
01:12:53.560
uh this summer i am going to show you um history like you haven't seen before it is truly a
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welcome to the glenbeck program as we uh look there's not a gigantic crowd um uh around the uh the halls
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of justice in new york there are people that are gathered uh around i i you know i i i urge you to
01:16:30.260
stay calm and know exactly who is by your side i i think january 6th if it taught us one thing
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uh it taught us that the people who always chant no justice no peace mean for us no peace no justice
01:16:47.100
uh and so be very very very very careful uh and know who you are aligning yourself with
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and uh keep your eyes peeled uh and always always walk towards peace and justice yeah because if you
01:17:02.180
do anything else you're going to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law correct because you
01:17:07.240
don't support abortion and you don't support high taxes and you don't support socialism so you're going
01:17:13.620
to lose if you if you try to do any of that and by the way like i we obviously don't support it for
01:17:19.120
a hundred other reasons but anything out of line with the law is going to get you in trouble when
01:17:27.260
you will watch your political opponents burn down cities and walk away free yep that is how the society
01:17:32.660
works right now and you should know it going in you might think it's wrong but you better understand
01:17:37.740
what the rules are right and those are the rules right and there are ways to um have your voice
01:17:43.840
be heard things you can do the most important thing you can do is make sure that your district attorney in
01:17:50.340
your city that your city council everything else your school board is locked up tight you need to pay
01:17:58.680
attention locally because that's where they're attacking locally so um you know just just button
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everything up and you can be vocal on twitter and and everything else if you feel you need to show
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a presence which i think you know it's only the right thing to do for donald trump to show you know
01:18:19.960
support for him he has gone through an awful lot uh and he's only going through this because he dared
01:18:27.600
to stand up to them and they want to teach everybody a lesson donald trump is pretty good at defending
01:18:35.720
himself oh yeah no he's no no but i mean i you know i would like him to know that yeah of course
01:18:41.020
yeah we're with you thank you for sure um let me ask you this do you think we're going to see
01:18:46.220
any rioting clashing violence around today no no i mean i'm obviously just asking you to predict the
01:18:55.020
future here this is no way you could know yeah and i and i have no idea but i just don't
01:18:58.720
no i mean what about opposition protesters coming in and there's a big banner that has been unfurled
01:19:07.980
in the streets that says trump lies all the time like those people are out today they're planned to
01:19:13.040
be there they've prepared with giant banners i mean could you see something where there's clashing
01:19:18.880
going from one side and one side fights back are you worried about that today
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always but i don't think that i mean i just i hope we're not dumb enough to walk into that trap
01:19:31.580
you know maybe we are but i i just i don't see it turning the other cheek is not easy it's something
01:19:38.720
that had to be specifically encouraged it's something that the people that march with martin luther king
01:19:44.540
uh had a very hard time yeah holding but they did i mean they they had attack dogs and and fire hoses and
01:19:53.120
rubber bullets and they did not respond when that when that group of people shows up that's when i'd feel
01:20:01.740
comfortable marching um but you've got to be in a different a completely different mindset i want to
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remind you that this is uh holy week uh we have uh good friday happening also passover this friday
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and easter on uh sunday and i would like to ask you i i think there is a i think there's a very good
01:20:25.720
case that um america is just possessed i mean we are just possessed there is real evil in our country
01:20:35.220
and uh you know it's it's worshiping ancient gods and it's evil and there's no way to break this
01:20:45.120
uh you know according to you know jesus i think it's in matthew 14 maybe 9 um uh he talks about you
01:20:55.120
know trying to the apostles trying to order a demon out of somebody couldn't get it done and jesus says
01:21:01.180
because you haven't fasted and prayed the only way to break this is through fast and prayer so
01:21:05.380
i would really like to invite you to join me on fasting and praying and telling everybody you can
01:21:13.100
to join us fast and pray for the breaking of evil in our country and uh you know some divine providence
01:21:21.460
to break our way and if you don't know how to fast look up in isaiah 58 uh 4 he talks about you know
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the the people are fasting and it's and god's not you know responding and so they ask god and he says
01:21:37.780
well your fasts lead to quarreling and fighting lashing out with violent blows yeah that's probably
01:21:42.980
he's probably saying that to the women who are like i'm hungry and they get hangry and it's ugly he says
01:21:48.400
that's not a fast if the object is to hang your head like a reed and spread sackcloth and ashes under
01:21:54.220
yourself not a fast here's what i want releasing those unjustly bound untying the thongs of the yoke
01:22:02.140
letting the oppressed go free breaking every yoke sharing your food with the hungry taking the homeless
01:22:08.740
poor into your home clothing the naked when you see them fulfilling your duty to your kinsmen
01:22:14.880
that's how you fast it's not just a diet it's not just eating or not eating uh it's prayerfully
01:22:24.840
sacrificing and doing the things that are our duty towards our kinsmen join me will you and spread the word
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this friday a fast and prayer for our nation the glenn back program
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what you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment
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you're right this is a somber moment uh for america it is a solemn time for america it's really a surreal
01:23:38.100
moment it will be a solemn and somber moment but i do think that um it is a somber day that we're
01:23:44.620
seeing a former president um you know criminally charged but it's a reminder that no one's above
01:23:49.780
the law love or loathe donald trump it's a sad day for america well you know it's obviously a somber
01:23:55.940
moment and it's it's a sad moment how would you counsel people uh that we're looking at a moment that
01:24:02.060
we ought not be celebrating because it's a sad moment eric swallow issued a statement calling the
01:24:06.980
indictment quote a somber day for america adam schiff who was one of the managers who led trump's
01:24:13.360
first impeachment trial told msnbc's rachel maddow last night that the indictment marks a sad and sobering
01:24:19.180
day you called trump's indictment a solemn day for our nation as of tonight it's a sad moment but the
01:24:27.360
president of the united states the former president is not above the law wow it is a uh a sobering and
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somber and surreal and sad and spaghetti sort of day i just looked for another s word well you missed
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not there he's going to be leaving soon very soon uh he's getting ready to leave and uh i can't wait
01:26:23.620
for him to get ready to leave what a moment that will be what a solemn sad saddening salty kind of day
01:26:34.400
it is uh do you is there part of you that because part of me like we all know the real serious parts
01:26:41.260
of this but like it's also just fun to watch donald trump completely with a remote control
01:26:47.220
manipulate the media to do whatever he wants oh yeah like here's the thing there's no doubt in my
01:26:53.920
mind he wins no matter he could be in prison but he will win you know what i mean he just no doubt he
01:27:01.700
is very good at this and and of course they're playing along with it as well i mean look if
01:27:08.120
donald trump didn't want 15 helicopters above his head as he drove from mar-a-lago and then from
01:27:14.920
the you know to from the airport to trump tower he could have called net jets and said hey i'm going
01:27:22.620
to take a plane not the trump plane right but a separate plane and we're going to leave at 11 15 p.m
01:27:28.640
the night before we're going to fly through the night and then we're going to get off we'll be at
01:27:32.540
trump tower before anyone wakes up there is a 100 chance that someone within the donald trump camp
01:27:39.240
told all the media the exact time he was leaving so they could all be up there and watch him go because
01:27:44.180
donald trump wants that he knows this is his game to play and he is literally programming every
01:27:52.500
major news network today he is so he does this better than anybody he i'm telling you i'm telling
01:27:59.220
you the media should charge him rent he's living in their head all the time and they all the time act
01:28:05.660
like they are sad and so somber no it's a sad and somber and sobering sobering sobering somber solemn
01:28:13.340
on a solemn sad day it is and they act that way and then they also act like they don't like it which
01:28:18.960
of course they do they want they know this is going to bring in the ratings they know people
01:28:23.860
are going to be hate watching it they know people are going to be tuning in and they're happy and
01:28:28.560
they're happy and of course they believe you know like stalin did show me the person and i'll find
01:28:36.120
the crime they want to see this guy get in trouble and of course they also i think and this is the part
01:28:41.500
that is highly questionable on their behalf because they've already been burned by this philosophy
01:28:46.180
but they they want trump to win this primary they want trump to be the guy that joe biden faces because
01:28:53.760
they think they can beat him and they've been burned by that belief before but so have we
01:29:00.560
we we i mean how biden uh you want biden because he's beatable no biden was the one that uh beat trump
01:29:13.840
and you know in 16 they were like yeah yeah we want him for hillary uh because hillary will kill him
01:29:20.940
and they got burned oh yeah and then we felt how can you lose to this guy and the the the answer is
01:29:28.140
cheating but but uh but you know i don't know how it's going to come out this time if you if you
01:29:34.180
listen to their telling this is how they see this story 2016 one this is really what they believe
01:29:39.800
crazy russian hacking probably uh you know he didn't tell anybody about the stormy daniels thing
01:29:46.400
that would have changed things uh and we focused too much on the hillary email scandal and that was
01:29:52.000
just a quirky thing and it was before people knew what trump would be like as a president and and and
01:29:57.040
we gave him too much air time and we gave him too much air time which again is a strange thing that
01:30:01.640
they seem to be doing again this time but then what they see as what again i'm not endorsing this
01:30:07.980
narrative but their narrative is in 2018 um people saw trump in office and a bunch of the candidates
01:30:14.820
he recommended lost we were able to have more success in 2018 than we expected 2020 we understood
01:30:21.840
the trump playbook we knew how to beat him we did we went out there and we got it done 2022 trump's
01:30:28.700
candidates got beat up pretty badly in in the election they performed i think this the stat is five
01:30:35.240
points behind non-trump endorsed uh candidates and we have a playbook we know how to beat this guy
01:30:42.320
even with our terrible president who's doing a terrible job we can beat this guy what's their
01:30:48.120
plan to beat ronda santis you saw it with charlie christ he lay off by 19 points in florida which was
01:30:53.660
used to be a swing state and in the previous election was a 0.4 percent difference now that i'm not saying
01:30:59.500
they're right on that analysis because there's a lot of variables here and if they truly believed
01:31:05.380
that donald trump was a unique threat to democracy surely they would not be doing what they're doing
01:31:12.020
surely they would not be doing what they're doing because if you put anybody in a two-person race
01:31:17.440
either side can win we are in a remember what's the biggest blowout election over the last i don't
01:31:23.620
know in this era of partisanship probably mccain obama right obama blew out mccain that was you
01:31:30.960
know what that what that margin was popular vote wise i want to say it was 53 46 okay these are not
01:31:37.260
blowout elections we are not in an era of blowout elections and so and i and i don't know that's
01:31:43.320
why i say i don't know how this one wins i mean that this one ends up i don't know if donald trump
01:31:51.280
or uh ronda status or anybody uh is a blowout by you could have unemployment and uh depression
01:32:02.080
happening and i'm not sure joe biden is beatable because of the system and the way our our mentality
01:32:11.780
is right now everybody's just like bad bad they're good they're bad and they're not thinking at all i
01:32:20.320
mean we're we're in an era where basically 46 percent is the is the floor for either one of
01:32:26.140
these two parties right so you're talking about a really small narrow window for either side to win
01:32:33.580
they think they could do it because they believe in the middle there that eight percent that might
01:32:38.960
decide an election at least five percent of those people will never vote for donald trump
01:32:44.080
now they may be very wrong on that but that is what they believe and that's it explains the way
01:32:50.200
what the way they're handling this they want to elevate trump in the primary because they think
01:32:55.580
they can beat him they may very well be wrong on that but that is what they believe and they also
01:33:01.540
hate his guts of course all that's true too i mean they hate his guts they they want him to be in
01:33:07.020
physical mental anguish whatever they can i mean this is this is going to be amazing because this
01:33:12.860
this is only one of five he's got five cases going against him right now yeah and the other was the
01:33:19.400
others are varying like you've got you've got a tax situation which you know is not at all sexy
01:33:25.860
right like there's not much you know going on there you have the the documents one which i believe to be
01:33:31.300
the the absolute least interesting and least impactful everyone's like all these documents
01:33:37.740
the guy was already present in the united states he already saw all of these documents
01:33:42.120
it's not like he's stealing information the fact that he's storing them in a place you didn't like
01:33:46.360
might be a minor violation of well we know it's a minor violation because everybody seemed to have
01:33:53.760
them yeah i know everyone seems to have them i mean the only ones in america that don't have
01:33:57.320
them are you me and the listener i have three okay so it's just you and me right now yes you
01:34:03.080
know stew's got them so it's you and me so like that you have that then you have the two january 6
01:34:08.960
or election related you have the january 6 major one about all of it with the riots and all that
01:34:14.940
other stuff that they're trying to go anywhere hard to believe especially watching the the you know
01:34:20.560
committee which was a joke and it was a joke then you have the georgia one which is
01:34:24.920
potentially more interesting if you're if you're a person who on the left who wants to take out
01:34:31.020
trump just because you have the combination of brag right where you have a local sort of person
01:34:36.080
going through this and can kind of take a lot of liberties that you might not take at the national
01:34:40.380
level and you have you know you have a phone call you have probably a lot of text messages they
01:34:45.600
have of people exchanging information in a chaotic time who knows what was said by who they've already
01:34:51.560
said basically they're gonna they're gonna indict some people in that the the the four the four
01:34:56.560
four of the jury is like coming out doing interviews about it yeah so i mean that one you could wait to
01:35:00.880
get trump we were just waiting oh yeah trump i mean it's crazy it's crazy just crazy the the smaller
01:35:06.860
this stuff gets in some ways the more realistic it gets because you get people who are local prosecutors
01:35:12.520
who don't care right about a lot of these you know traditional
01:35:16.780
um walls that have been put up to stop this type of behavior they'll just do it anyway to heighten
01:35:23.040
their own profiles so i think those should would should worry him more but the bottom line is like
01:35:28.100
when you get their their bet is you had a really close election in 2016 that trump squeaked out in
01:35:33.440
2020 you had a really close election that biden squeaked out since 2020 you've had january 6 you've had
01:35:39.980
an impeachment that didn't go anywhere but still was an impeachment a lot of people hear that is is bad
01:35:44.960
you have you're gonna have multiple indictments that have come down against him and you know the fact that
01:35:49.860
he's talking still a lot about the 2020 election is not going to necessarily win over a lot of people
01:35:55.440
who were undecided or on the fence in the 2020 uh back and forth so you're just that's the formula they
01:36:02.100
see and that's the reason why they they believe a battle between trump and biden is one they can win
01:36:09.980
and look i think that is really really risky for them especially when you know that we are headed
01:36:18.080
towards economic instability yeah i mean you add an economic firestorm in all of this and trump will
01:36:26.400
look like the businessman that he is and he'll remind people do you remember what it was like
01:36:31.660
it's a great point it was like when i was in yeah they screwed it up i fixed it we'll fix it again
01:36:37.300
and this is the main reason i think it's important to highlight this is the disingenuousness of this
01:36:42.600
idea that they believe he's some unique threat to democracy and they're so patriotic they have to
01:36:49.540
stop him they would be doing the same that they would not be doing this if he dropped dead today
01:36:56.160
they would take all of those words and just add take take donald trump out and add ron de santis and
01:37:04.100
they would say the other words two words they would add is even worse even worse even worse than
01:37:07.880
trump even worse that ron de santis is even when they've already they already started it when they
01:37:11.760
thought de santis was was going to win um and or was starting to become competitive and he's not even
01:37:18.140
in the race yet they're still already saying it and if de santis wins they will unite around the
01:37:23.520
message that he is worse than trump none of this means anything to them none of it means anything
01:37:28.240
these are all lies and they are continuing to go down this road making calculations about this i mean
01:37:35.000
they are telling you the entire country is going to collapse if donald trump is president and they are
01:37:40.840
acting with every ounce of their being to get him through the primary why if they actually cared about
01:37:46.620
the country or believed that then they wouldn't be doing this but they of course don't care about the
01:37:53.380
country or and or don't believe that donald trump is some unique threat to democracy well he's not the
01:38:00.900
threat that mitt romney was right and he was the worst guy ever before you know george w bush or before
01:38:07.220
mccain and then bush and then it going back and the only one i ever agree with them on is mitt romney
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it's going to happen from i think it's march 23rd or something like that just check uh or sorry not
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march um may june 23rd sorry june 23rd uh through july 4th just keep showing up on any 23rd yeah just
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it out yes what is glenn a member of some large organization that celebrates radio history there
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you have it another example of why glenn beck is in the radio hall of fame way to go glenn you can
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only think you can only be inducted once so why try anymore oh yeah that's true you don't have to
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try and i don't have to try anymore yeah you can't reverse it at this point you're already it no can't
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kick you out uh so anyway unless you're donald trump i think if he was in it they would find a way
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shut up yeah stop it uh i'm gonna oh my gosh hey i'm listening to um i'm listening to a book who's the
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do you remember when we had the eye of moloch oh so many years ago and um i made the case in that book
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that we were worshiping the ancient gods and i've been telling you that for a while well
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he's put it all together i mean he's smarter than i am and you know he so he wrote a book about it
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um but uh he's put three gods together this unholy trinity that he claims that we are worshiping and
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i believe him whether we know it or not all of the rituals that go along with these three gods
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that's terrifying and we're doing all of them as a society and uh it's not good it's gonna it's gonna
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be suboptimal it's like i don't know i don't know if you read that uh the uh uh la county jail is
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they're thinking about just letting everybody go oh good yeah and i'm thinking i'm interested to see
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how that works out for them well i'm sure i'm sure it's gonna be well i kind of feel like that's
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what god's saying to us right now huh worshiping those three gods hmm i'm interested to see how
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that works out for you tell me more tell me more let me sip some tea with yeah not really uh it's
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suboptimal suboptimal is a good word for it uh we're gonna be talking about how america has fallen
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into evil there's a new movie coming out called nefarious it has its premiere in dallas here
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tonight we're going to be going and one of the stars who you may know from other tv shows and
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movies is going to be joining us he started out as the young indiana jones in the chronicles of
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indiana jones the glenn back program a couple of questions for you first question is if you're
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i'm sure you have months years and i know you've tried everything you've gone to every doctor you
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listen you've tried different things and you know the only thing that works maybe doesn't really take
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execution scheduled for 11 p.m but he's trying to convince us he's gone insane
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you have your head so twisted around you think you're the killer
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i'm trying to edward but you have to answer my questions