Trump Didn’t Concede | Guests: Bill O’Reilly & Alan Dershowitz | 12⧸11⧸20
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Former NFL coach Tony Dungy weighs in on the Georgia Democratic Senate candidate Raphael Warnock, asking if he qualifies as a Christian given his support of abortion. Glenn Beck also talks about the housing crash, and offers advice to first-time home buyers.
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Hello, America, from Washington, D.C. and our Blaze Studios in the belly of the beast.
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Welcome to Friday. It is the Glenn Beck Program. We have a lot on our plate today.
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Bill O'Reilly is going to be joining us in just a few minutes.
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We're going to be talking to the doctor in Oregon who believes that there's really not enough research that has been done
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on this whole mask thing and lockdown to prove that that is effective at all.
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In fact, he believes it's making things worse because he has said this.
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He has lost his license. Is that really where we are in America?
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Yeah, it is. So how do we define America? We begin there in 60 seconds.
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My daughter and I are here for the White House Christmas party tonight.
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My wife and I were going, but she had to stay at home.
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And so my daughter, Cheyenne, and I are here for a father-daughter date.
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What a cool thing if you were 14 years old to go to the White House
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and meet the President and First Lady and have a Christmas party.
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So we're kind of here selfishly enjoying ourselves.
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But I will pass on your heartfelt thoughts, prayers, and support to the President when I see him tonight.
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I saw a story last night as I was laying in bed and I was reading the news that I might have missed.
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And I saw a story that I normally would not get involved in because I don't like judging people's souls by any stretch of the imagination.
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But I don't think that's what was happening here.
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Former NFL coach Tony Dungy has weighed in on the Georgia Democrat Senate candidate, Raphael Warnock,
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wondering if Warnock, who's a pastor, qualifies as a Christian given his support of abortion.
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Dungy questioned Warnock, the senior pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta,
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who recently claimed to be a pro-choice pastor.
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After his tweet, Tony Dungy wrote that Warnock may be a pastor, but my question is, is he a Christian?
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Does he follow the teachings of Jesus and does he believe that the Bible is the absolute word of God?
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Dungy said it's difficult for someone who supports abortion to be a proper Christian.
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I think it would be difficult for someone who believes in God and God sees us when we're in the womb to think it's okay to choose not bringing that life to fruition.
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Tony Dungy is looking at abortion, and I think rightfully saying that when it says, I think it's in Psalms, or is it Palms?
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That means that that is an individual, that is life.
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So can you be a Christian and believe in abortion?
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Gosh, this is one of the most difficult questions that we face as human beings.
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It is the only time where we unite with the maker.
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However, I feel uncomfortable saying somebody's not a Christian if they believe differently.
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But I think Tony Dungy was justified in questioning that, not just on abortion, but because of his other belief.
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And so I wouldn't want to give a definitive answer on whether someone's a Christian or not.
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I find it hard to believe, and that's the way he said it.
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It would be tough, but that doesn't rule it out.
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But if you believe in black liberation theology, I do believe it rules you out as a Christian.
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And that is Jeremiah Wright and Warnock in Atlanta.
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Now, this is the guy who's running for the Senate.
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Again, I said at the beginning, I don't like, I normally would never go in to judge someone, whether you're Christian or not, because I don't know your heart.
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You could be a horrible person on the outside and just completely misunderstood by all of us.
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And I'm super sensitive to it, because there are so many people that say, because I am of my faith, I'm not a Christian.
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That would tell a lot of people, probably half the country, that I'm not a Christian.
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Half the country would look at me and say, yeah, he's pretty Christ-like, I guess.
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But if I can look at what somebody actually claims they believe, and then I compare it to what Christ talked about and what he taught,
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I can say, whether you're a Christian or not, if they don't match up.
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And when you're talking about black liberation theology, you're talking about something entirely different than what we believe.
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And Warnock, his spiritual leader, is the guy who came up with black liberation theology in 66.
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So if your theology is all coming from Reverend Cone, the guy who came up with black liberation theology,
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something that is steeped in Marxism, well, then we can judge you on whether or not you're actually a Christian.
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Not what's in your heart, but what you actually believe.
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So are you a Christian if you believe in black liberation theology?
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First of all, because it is steeped in Marxism.
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And if you do any work, any work on Marxism, you will come to believe that it is from the dark side.
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I think it's actually from the very jaws of hell.
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I think it is evil, myself, and evil for the same reason, except black liberation theology packages it a little different.
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But evil for the same reason that black liberation theology is evil.
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It doesn't teach that God came to liberate all of us.
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It teaches economic salvation and how to balance power.
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Jesus came to say, we are all sinners, all of us.
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Jesus came to the poor for the same reason that most Christian missionaries go to Africa or the jungles of South America, or they go to Harlem over Greenwich, Connecticut.
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When people are successful, when people are rich, they generally are not looking for any answers because they think their life is full.
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Now, you can be rich and miserable, and that person may be humble enough to actually look and seek a different answer.
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You can be, as so many, including Nelson Mandela, showed us, you can be perfectly happy and spiritually fulfilled in prison.
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Read the words of Dietrich Bonhoeffer that he wrote from prison.
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How could he possibly achieve that when he knew he was going up to the gallows and going to be executed by the Nazis?
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You can't be a Christian and believe that Christ came to balance the power.
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You can't be a Christian and believe that you need to get them.
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What is the purpose of a man who is dying in the most humiliating way?
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You have to remember, having something nailed to a tree in ancient times was the lowest of low.
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So here is a king who is being nailed to a tree.
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And he says, while he's dying, Father, forgive them.
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Where is the you're only doing this to me because of my skin color?
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But if you're part of black liberation theology, Jesus has to be black.
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Well, at what point in the Bible did God turn the Jews around in the desert and say,
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OK, you need to make weapons and you need to get them.
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At what point in the Bible were the Jews taught vengeance?
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At what point did did Yahweh say to the the ancient Israelites as they're leaving the Pharaoh?
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Those who wanted power, those who wanted riches, they were condemned.
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Those who had been freed and then turned back and said, we got nothing out here.
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Turned against God and said, we need a golden calf.
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Let me just hit two more points, and then I'll move past this.
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And the reason why this is important is because this is the stuff that our children are being fed now.
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And this is a man who they're trying to mainstream, who is not mainstream.
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In fact, black liberation theology, all liberation theology, I believe, is dangerous because it is steeped in Marxism.
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You fundamentally miss who Jesus is if you believe in collective salvation.
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And this is something that Obama believed in because he was taught at the feet of Jeremiah Wright.
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But even Obama politically knew, I got to get away from that.
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Warnock in Georgia is still defending Jeremiah Wright.
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Because he didn't learn at the feet of Jeremiah Wright.
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He learned at the feet of Reverend Cone, who is the author and architect of black liberation theology.
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Collective salvation means none of us can be saved unless all of us are saved.
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He believes in something that really truly is Gnosticism.
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And that is, there are some people born knowing.
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Well, it's not just that some are born knowing.
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In black liberation theology, that would be the white man.
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You are evil and you are racist and that's the way you were born.
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They can't be racist because that's the way they were born.
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that the holidays are going to come and be gone
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and a great way to share the joy of the season.
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level but you can't comment on an investigation
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well i'm not saying comment on an investigation
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was wrong and the excuse is we don't want to get
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dorm report didn't come out okay and why isn't it
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out with that at all i i agree with the american
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that's what i agree with but now we have to move
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forward and the only way we can move forward in
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happened during that presidential vote but joe biden
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should want that he should be number one on that i want
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that i don't want to go down in history as somebody who might have been
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i know my logic is i agree with you i know it's just not going to happen
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let me ask you let me ask you this back you better start i'm i'm with you i want
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the investigation i'll stand there with you side by side
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open an independent council because if we don't have a faith
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in the the voting process we don't have a country
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we don't have a country so i'm with you on that
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i want to see this on the blaze tonight i want to see this
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i don't control the blaze i don't tell i don't tell the newspapers i don't tell
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the newsroom what to uh what to do i have nothing to do with it
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um now let me let me ask you this bill yes let me go back to texas
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and will it be heard it will not be heard because the supremes don't want
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to be the election deciders and they know if they overturn the election or even
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stop the process of the inauguration there'll be violence in the streets now
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people say well that shouldn't be a consideration
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it should be just based upon the law all that's true
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but these are human beings all right and they know the consequences
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of providing an avenue of chaos in the election they know the consequences
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there is no doubt that this country'd be on fire in this time
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when the radical left has put the torch to the businesses
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oh wait wait wait wait that's basically the same answer i gave you when i said
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and i got a lecture from you so you asked me will the supreme court hear the case
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and i believe they will not i think there's a 15 percent chance they will
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should it be heard should it be heard was the first question
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well that's an interesting question i would do it
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i would try i would try something like this and i don't even know if this is constitutional
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but i were the chief justice of the supreme court that's john roberts
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but i think morally that's the right thing to do
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well it's been done twice or three times before
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i mean that's why we have it going to the house
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and who did it so we can put those people in prison
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yeah texas has got a absolutely good case logically
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here is the question that has been posed to me by listeners
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judges are just dismissing it without actually having an
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what do the american people do that believe that this was
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there's a good chance you're going to get screwed by your own country
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and that when any whenever any form of government becomes destructive to those ends
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it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it
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and institute a new government laying its foundation on such principles
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shall seem more likely to affect their safety and happiness
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but when a long train of abuses and usurptations
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it is their right it is their duty to throw off such government
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and provide new guards for the future of their security
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transition team mr mr biden's son learned about
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delaware on tuesday oh crap sorry i have something
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two sources familiar with the investigation tell
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began in 2018 now this is the part that's really
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season the investigation went quiet otherwise known as
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going covert and noted that it would have violated policy at
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the fbi or department of justice by taking any said overt steps that
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would affect the election really that's doj and fbi policy and the
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policy of the media too which is really strange and new because
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james comey danced to the tune of a different policy in 2016
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didn't he hunter biden's statement said i'm confident that a professional and
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objective review of these matters will demonstrate that i handled my affairs
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legally and appropriately legally well that remains to be seen
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though it's entirely doubtful appropriately now if hunter biden's business deals in china and
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the ukraine are appropriate in any respect oxford and dictionary.com are going to need to rush out
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an updated definition of the word which they probably will
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and as for the mainstream media that suddenly discovered their inner journalist
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sort of now that the election is in the rearview mirror i think it's safe to say
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to well at least mention a potential little issue with hunter biden's taxes
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uh being a little a little hypocritical at this point because what did they say
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the new york post story that dropped like a bomb last week seemingly implicating hunter and joe biden
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continues to wither under scrutiny not really dropping like a bomb we have no idea and neither
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does the new york post whether any of it was doctored or forged or faked and that's why the
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mainstream news media has declined to really touch this story um because it just lacks credibility
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the story that many intelligence experts say has all the hallmarks of a foreign interference campaign
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first it helps to really view this as storytelling not so much as news coverage but as political entertainment
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so this political entertainment careens from conspiracy to conspiracy like a serialized tv drama
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how prominent an issue do you think this is for voters how much do you think it matters
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i don't think it it matters a great deal with voters
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that's what conservatives think they can lie through their teeth the story
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that even the new york post knew was a lie who even thought to make that story up we should note
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hunter biden isn't running for president that argument has been debunked
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that's unbelievable unbelievable let me let me just quote the daily beast here evidence of the larger
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probe was apparent but went largely unnoticed in the days leading up to the november election
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really how it was largely unnoticed how how was it large i mean i know how it was a largely unnoticed by
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the by the people of america because mainstream media and social media censored it a hundred percent
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because they said it was classic russian disinformation i love this yeah
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i love it's amazing too because it's one thing when i first heard the story too about the hunter biden
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laptop it was dropped off at a computer store it seemed like maybe it was last minute uh you know
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election shenanigans by some operative like it it definitely fit that profile however after a few
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days when the biden campaign would not deny it was his laptop just that how do you not go to them and say
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was this your laptop or not and the fact that they never have ever been asked to deny whether this
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laptop exists or whether it was his we all know now that it is it was his but they didn't even go
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to that extent to make them go on the record and say it wasn't the laptop they had no interest because
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they didn't want to blow the election for joe biden how could you possibly dismiss this authoritative
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voice let me give you some headlines here stew i mean they're the authority on this politico 10 19
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hunter biden story is a russian disinformation dozens of former intel officers say now justice
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department interest in hunter biden covered more than taxes federal prosecutors have investigated
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foreign ties and possible money laundering well that's uh that's two months different
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but they were authoritative at the side at the time you must listen to them because they knew what
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was right and everything else was wrong until two months later after the election cnn then the anatomy
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of the new york post dubious hunter biden story now federal criminal investigation into hunter biden
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focuses on his business dealings in china new york times then fox news is covering hunter biden claims more
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than 2016 wiki leaks emails now hunter biden discloses he is the focus of a federal tax inquiry
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usa today tabloid got a trove of data on hunter biden from rudy giuliani now the fbi is probing the
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possible disinformation campaign is the glenn beck program it's amazing all right uh we have alan
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dershowitz coming up in just a few minutes to uh comment on the texas supreme court case we'll talk
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ah there's uh two controversies we're both passionate about i'm passionate about one stew is passionate
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about the other you're gonna have to decide which one's more important i am very passionate about ben
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and jerry's new flavor uh and i'm the fattest man except for santa fattest man on the planet at this
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point and even i won't buy it because it's it's saluting the very very brave
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kaepernick uh ben and jerry say colin is just he's the very best of us oh my and so this is your way
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to salute colin kaepernick and his anti-police stance anti-america stance and i think
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you've gone too far this ice cream is dead to me and it's not actually ice cream we should point
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out it's it is vegan uh some sort of doesn't make it better that doesn't make it better that just
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means what what you're it's not even ice cream now i was not even ice i was not arguing it was an
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improvement i was no i know i know but you're just you're needling me you're needling me well
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turnabout is fair fair play you know what stew i mean the media didn't know for sure that hunter
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biden was in trouble i they didn't they didn't know i mean it looks suspicious at the time i can't
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take this one look the hunter biden thing happens and they this this story comes out in the new york
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post again i've written columns in the new york post like this i'm not i didn't i wasn't like
01:44:13.220
immediately dismissive of the new york post but it comes out and it was a it seemed like we talked
01:44:19.440
about it at the time the the the the the way this came about seemed very shady in that like
01:44:27.560
really hunter biden just dropped off his laptops with incriminating documents at a computer repair shop
01:44:33.640
and then it mulls around for a couple years and then a couple weeks before the election
01:44:38.820
rudy giuliani gets a hold of it and just releases all this stuff it felt questionable i would say not
01:44:46.720
necessarily that the information was for the first yeah not the necessarily the information because the
01:44:52.540
information was verifying other things but how it got out and was released for about maybe
01:44:58.600
maybe 24 to 48 hours yeah there's a reason to be skeptical i think generally however very quickly
01:45:06.440
uh that changed and the reason why to me it changed is that for some reason and i don't know if anyone in
01:45:14.580
the media bothered to look at this but they didn't deny that it was his laptop like when an
01:45:22.240
crazy accusation comes out two weeks before an election you come out and you say of course that's
01:45:28.320
not his laptop this was made up by rudy giuliani they did not say that they did not say that and
01:45:34.440
the media never went to them to try to figure out if it was actually his laptop there was never a
01:45:41.680
moment where they said you know what none of these emails none of these videos are true they just said
01:45:46.880
well this is another series of attacks against our campaign yeah but wait a minute are they true
01:45:52.400
attacks did these things actually happen because these this is something broke we broke the news
01:45:59.880
we showed you the email between the guy who is the service guy and hunter biden's attorney saying hey
01:46:09.400
could we get the email back or can we get the the the computer back i mean you can't say that it wasn't
01:46:16.060
his when you're asking for it back you had multiple business partners of hunter biden talking about not
01:46:23.620
just that hunter biden who we all knew was a douche before this but not just that he was out there
01:46:30.080
doing these things but that his dad and his dad's brother were tied into them right like these were all
01:46:37.980
things that not conservatives were saying the business partners of hunter biden and they were saying
01:46:44.920
them on record over and over and over again and the media did not cover it and the reason they didn't cover
01:46:51.640
it and they foreshadowed this for literally years beforehand because they said over and over again they
01:46:59.220
blamed themselves for donald trump's loss and for donald trump's win in 2016 and the hillary clinton loss
01:47:06.900
they in their internal narrative of what happened in 2016 it wasn't that people were frustrated with
01:47:13.180
washington it wasn't that a working class people were rising up it wasn't it disaffected democrats
01:47:18.300
switching sides and voting for donald trump that wasn't it what it was to the media was that they
01:47:23.600
believed they spent too much time talking about hillary clinton's emails they believed in their
01:47:30.380
internal analysis that they focused so much on this little story because you know they they had scandals
01:47:36.340
for trump but they believed and they had scandals for hillary and they tried to even out the coverage
01:47:40.460
too much too much again this is insane i i i acknowledge this is an insane view of the 2016 election
01:47:46.540
but the mainstream media believed that they they gave credence to these theories about hillary clinton's
01:47:53.280
emails and that and the fbi investigation that was tied to it and they said well we're not going to let
01:48:00.020
that happen again we're not going to give uh oxygen to these fringe stories and so when one came up
01:48:07.500
right by the election again that was completely legitimate that they now acknowledge there was
01:48:13.280
evidence of a much wider investigation on hunter biden they just didn't cover it and now they're
01:48:19.220
paying this cost they're saying okay now the election's happened and we'll all come out and
01:48:23.300
we'll put it out there and we'll get we'll take the criticism from the right and everyone will have
01:48:27.480
their headlines and we'll look like idiots but they don't care they don't care but they're not
01:48:32.460
actually taking they're not actually still not telling the truth because on that uh on that
01:48:38.700
computer that they now say uh-oh looks like there's something on the computer it is proof that joe biden
01:48:46.200
was involved they're only making this about taxes a diamond and hunter biden they are not even pursuing
01:48:55.120
wait a minute if that's true then the stuff on the server is true who's the big guy
01:49:01.880
joe biden so they are not actually telling the truth no even yet today back with alan dershowitz
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and we really want to hear alan dershowitz opinion on the texas supreme court uh i have no idea what
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we have mr alan dershowitz uh from the podcast the dershow uh with us now alan how are you sir
01:50:41.440
hey i'm doing great how about you i'm good so i don't know if i want to hear your opinion or whether
01:50:48.760
i'm going to like it or not but i know you're going to give me an honest view of the constitution
01:50:54.040
and that's important um because you have demonstrated not being a political player you
01:51:01.260
actually stand with the constitution and i so appreciate that um as i'm looking at the
01:51:07.780
the texas filing uh with the supreme court um it seems to me that it creates tension between
01:51:16.760
um the bush v gore verdict and whether that was proper or not and does it apply now today
01:51:28.220
is that even in the ballpark well remember the supreme court said don't ever cite bush versus gore that
01:51:36.600
was a case for one day and one election only so it's not supposed to be cited for precedent
01:51:41.980
look i think that bush versus gore was much easier one state 600 votes uh imagine a situation where the
01:51:50.460
shoe were on the other foot where um say biden had lost the election to trump uh by one state and that
01:51:59.900
state uh were corrupt and other states sued that state i think the my liberal democrat colleagues
01:52:07.180
would be saying what a great creative lawsuit wow we're behind it larry tribe would be arguing the
01:52:13.220
case enthusiastically saying of course the state of new york has standing to challenge florida
01:52:20.740
or whatever but now the shoe is on a different foot and so all my academic colleagues are saying the
01:52:26.440
lawsuit is silly it's crazy it's not crazy the constitution says a state can sue another state
01:52:32.340
and if the votes of one state texas have been diluted by corruption in another state and if in fact
01:52:40.380
the president should be candidate x rather than candidate y i do think that there is standing by one
01:52:47.420
state to challenge the problem with the lawsuit are numbers evidence and timing not abstract
01:52:54.160
theoretical constitutional issues it's two it's the two minute warning there are no timeouts left and
01:52:59.960
they're on their own 10 yard line and they have to produce evidence not just allegations that show
01:53:06.100
that there are enough challenged votes that would make a difference in the outcome of the election
01:53:10.260
and that's a burden that's so very hard to me okay so i think um we agree i i i mean me personally i
01:53:20.220
have my feelings about this election and and what happened but it doesn't matter what my feelings are
01:53:25.320
we need facts but don't you aren't you shouldn't they be uh allowed the uh ability to present those
01:53:35.460
facts to the supreme court and if they don't stand up then they don't stand up i agree but the question
01:53:41.280
is timing how quickly can they do it the constitution doesn't designate uh december 14th but legislation
01:53:49.240
designates the 14th as the day in which the electors vote and is there really enough time
01:53:55.440
between today and the 14th for the supreme court to listen and hear and evaluate the evidence one of
01:54:02.140
the criticisms of course has been that the courts have said you should have brought these lawsuits
01:54:06.780
earlier you should have brought them before the election if there were challenges to things that
01:54:11.340
you knew were going to happen like mail-in ballots or immediately after the election
01:54:15.880
wait wait but didn't they but didn't they alan i mean i remember i remember people challenging wait
01:54:23.360
a minute you can't change these at the last minute you can't you've got to go through the legislature
01:54:28.940
those challenges were there in pennsylvania and the pennsylvania lawsuit i predict will be won
01:54:37.580
uh the question is are there enough disputed votes in pennsylvania all the votes that were counted
01:54:44.600
and received after election day i believe will be discounted by the united states supreme court
01:54:50.600
we've certainly gotten that message from justice alito's early decision the question is are there
01:54:55.920
enough such votes to overcome the 80 000 or so margin of victory that biden seems to have won in
01:55:03.060
pennsylvania that's the question should the supreme court and this is an academic question because i don't
01:55:13.080
know if anybody can prove anything and we can't operate on what we feel we have to have proof um but if they
01:55:20.900
could produce either side could produce evidence that this was uh a uh stolen election um
01:55:30.120
should the supreme court rule even if it meant sorry you're gonna have to flip the score and i know
01:55:40.520
that would cause all kinds of may even cause civil war shouldn't the supreme court stand with the rule
01:55:46.620
of law in the constitution no matter the consequence or not yes i think so but the supreme court has to
01:55:53.340
have credibility as alexander hamilton wrote in the federalist papers it has neither sword nor purse
01:55:58.020
it lives or dies by its credibility and if it's a partisan decision and it's perceived as a partisan
01:56:05.260
decision a lot of americans won't accept it so i think they will not try to change the outcome of
01:56:11.460
the election unless it's demonstrably clear from both a legal and a factual point of view the burden is
01:56:18.700
very very heavy on those who would change an election remember before we desegregated america
01:56:24.060
the supreme court waited until it had a nine to nothing opinion they were seven to two a few years
01:56:31.100
earlier but justice chief justice warren said no if you're going to desegregate the south you need
01:56:36.680
to have unanimity you can't give the other side any basis for saying this is not the law and i think
01:56:42.560
the same thing would be true if you wanted to reverse an election it would have to be an overwhelming
01:56:47.440
decision at the supreme court not along partisan lines i think that's why um i mean we were just
01:56:54.740
talking about it that even if you accept it and you say let's look at it the decision comes out and
01:57:02.200
it's and clarence thomas says no amy coney barrett says no then it has credibility but if you don't
01:57:09.600
accept it and at least hear it you feel like you know something justice isn't being done hear it and then
01:57:19.620
unite on the answer i i agree with that i think the american public has the right to know not only
01:57:25.620
for this election but for future elections because look we've seen so many challenged elections in the
01:57:31.200
21st century starting with 2000 you know there were complaints about the 16 election um we're going to
01:57:37.780
get more complaints as more people vote by mail and by computer um we're going to see more challenges so
01:57:44.160
you know i've suggested establishing for the future a voter integrity panel vip consisting of vips
01:57:51.080
former justices presidents of universities ministers priests and rabbis you name it people who are
01:57:57.500
objective and non-partisan and all complaints before the election during the election after the election
01:58:03.040
can be brought to them for a factual assessment so we the public can know the truth today with the
01:58:09.840
exception of my podcast and your show nobody knows where to go to to get the truth you can't get it
01:58:15.620
on most mainstream media you're going to get bias and so i think we need to have a trusted institution
01:58:22.460
that could tell us what's going on with the counting and with the election i don't know i don't know any
01:58:30.640
institution that could uh withstand the societal push towards control of everything uh i think
01:58:39.540
that's a longer discussion um real quick i've got about 20 seconds is it going to be heard by the
01:58:44.320
supreme court or not i wish i knew i think the supreme court should write something and say something
01:58:52.640
they shouldn't they shouldn't simply dismiss and leave it to us to speculate thank you very much
01:58:59.140
alan dershowitz have a safe weekend i will say hello to the president for all of you who are
01:59:05.560
supporting him tonight uh as i uh meet with him and he meets my daughter this is the glenn beck program