Trump's Peace Talks Prove We FINALLY Have a World Leader Again | Guests: Sen. Eric Schmitt & Melanie Phillips | 8⧸19⧸25
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On this episode of the Doomsday Prepper Podcast, Glenn Blume and Jason Perla discuss the White House meeting with President Obama. Glenn and Jason discuss what they learned from it and what they hope to see from it in the future.
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hello america there is quite a bit to talk about uh what happened at the white house yesterday
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was historic now does anything come of it i think there's a good chance i think there's
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there seemed to be real progress yesterday we'll talk about that coming up in just a second first let
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all right hello stew how are you wonderful glenn how are you oh my gosh i was with uh prager you
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yesterday we were doing uh i guess i'm i'm i guess if prager you is the new pbs that doesn't take
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any money from the u.s government which i think is the big big problem with pbs was it was taking
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money from anyway uh uh i guess i'm the new big bird um but uh i was recording with him all day
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yesterday up until you know uh yesterday evening and i missed seeing a lot of this stuff live and
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it is one of the most what happened yesterday i is one of the things that i wish i would have been
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able to watch live jason i know you were there watching it live the whole time stew did you get a
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chance to watch it all day i watched a good chunk of it not all of it but most of it let me hear your
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takeaway stew i think it's really encouraging that there's a chance right i mean i you know i don't
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know what to make of a final um uh you know wonderful unicorn land where there's peace and vladimir
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putin doesn't do anything wrong again um but the bottom line is uh the possibility of improving the
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situation is there and i'm excited about that um you know i i'm sure the ukrainians have their ups and
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downs with this they want the war to be over but don't want to lose land which is what's going to
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happen here quite clearly um but at the end of the day what our interests are is what is important to
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me uh and our interests are getting this over so it doesn't spiral into world war three so i am
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excited for the possibility but you know you're of course always hesitant when trusting vladimir putin
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as part of the puzzle jason your takeaway oh wow i i didn't know what to expect uh based off of news
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coverage leading up to this i have expected there to be a bunch of european leaders that all weirdly
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look like evil accountants that were going to be charging through the halls of the white house and
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we're just really going to give trump a piece of his mind to protect poor zelensky to be well
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protect him they were because he was going to be bullied remember that oh yeah right but what we
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got was a european love boat within the white house they were all just heaping praise upon praise
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on president trump now did you see the new york times response to that today no new york times wrote a
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story today that the only reason i mean who learned more on how to how to handle uh uh donald trump
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putin or the european leaders because they all just bend the knee to him now and uh they're only
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doing that because they have to well wait a minute wait a minute you only have to bend the knee to him
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because what he's completely irrelevant uh he's he's not making a difference in the world why would
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you bend a knee to a man who is a dictator who's all the things the left always says and i didn't get
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that impression now i didn't see it yesterday i only saw the clips but i didn't see anything other
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than what i thought was actual respect for moving the ball down the field no touchdown but he's moved
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the ball down the field yeah 100 and there were other diplomatic moves that led to this like bend the
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knee to a dictator uh putin friendly i i tell you in my opinion the only reason that putin has
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come to the table and is really taking this seriously right now one of the reasons why i am
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very optimistic are the other foreign policy moves that trump has maneuvered just to get to this point
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let's talk about azerbaijan and armenia i mean that is a huge shot across the bow of the russians
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huge it's something there uh their um uh you know proximity to the caucuses and wanting to exert
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influence down in that area that was a huge move right there that people are not even talking about
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something that led to this but i tell you what glenn at when i saw this go down as i saw them say
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you know you broke the stalemate direct quote three and a half years we got nowhere more movement in the
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last two weeks that is all president trump that is all him and i thought at that there was one moment
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where they were like you know breaking news you know the meeting has stopped briefly um president
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trump is immediately calling uh vladimir putin there was a collective within the entire world
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and we thought is he gonna get this done you know he said because i heard him speak this morning he was
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on fox and friends this morning and he said you know they said did you really just stop the meeting
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you call him put him on speakerphone he said no i wouldn't do that to him he said but i promised him
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i would give him an update and he said as soon as we were done i was going to call him and he said it
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was already like 1 30 in the morning over in moscow yeah so he said i just uh i called him up and gave
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him an update of of where we were this is a guy who i think is feeling the pressure of 20 000 people
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you know dying every couple of days um and uh and wants this thing done uh and seems to have a good
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relationship with now europeans and also vladimir uh i mean sorry and also uh yeah vladimir putin
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um let me just give you some of the quotes here's zelensky if you look at the silver lining of where
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we stand right now we found a solution in 1944 and i'm sure we're ever going to be able to find a
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solution in 2024 or sorry 2025 uh president trump's efforts have reignited the dialogue that's zelensky
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emmanuel macron um he praised him earlier for calling for a 30-day ceasefire said it was a
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positive step in diplomacy and then he said president trump's effort to stop the killing in ukraine
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and russia's war of aggression and achieve a lasting peace he has moved the ball uh down the field
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keir starmer emphasized that any deal has to include ukraine and not allow russia to dictate terms
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uh the joint statement uh we welcome president trump's efforts which have paved the way for
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ukraine's security guarantees um the leaders uh were flattered uh they flattered trump to keep the
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movement going now that's that's the spin from the press that they flattered him i think there was
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actual respect from most of them for what donald trump has done they had completely
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stalled for three and a half years there was no movement for three and a half years um they
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couldn't get anything done putin won't talk to any of them you know um president trump is is doing things
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he's doing things that i don't think that i expected him to be so good at you know in his first term
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we didn't really talk about the art of the deal
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and and i think it's because everything was so combative everything was combative this time the
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art of the deal is happening in almost everything he is becoming that deal maker
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everywhere everywhere um yesterday he whispered into uh uh uh into macron's ear which is weird
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i think your wife is a man uh and then he and then he said um i think i think putin wants to make a deal
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i think he wants to make a deal for me understand that as crazy as it sounds now everybody went crazy
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on that but i think that's true i think donald trump has this way of bringing you into the fold he can
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push you out but you want to be in his circle you know what i mean and i think every european leader
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and vladimir putin is feeling the same way he'll push you out but he can bring you in and then he
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makes you feel like you are the center of the universe you know um and nobody wants to be a global pariah
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not even vladimir putin wants to be a pariah he wants to look good to the rest of the world
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i think he also wants to win in the eyes of his own people so does uh zelinski president trump has this
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way of of moving people and i and maybe he's done this with putin maybe not but maybe he's done this
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with putin to get putin to the point to where he does want to be
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friendly to the united states and donald trump when he said you know i it's weird but i think he wants
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to make a deal for me i think donald trump the one thing he is good at is reading a room and i think he's
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possibly right about that also the security guarantees stew it looks like they they all came
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together and and verified that not a nato article 5 but an article 5 like agreement is on actually on
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the table and putin seems to be somewhat accepted accepting of it yeah i'm hopeful that that comes to
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it gets there i think i think i don't know let me let me i'm not 100 sure i like the idea of us being
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in a nato like agreement in ukraine but i i like the idea that the there would be a threat there to
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stop them from doing this again so you know again devil's in the details on this stuff for those for
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those who feel like you do and i i include myself in that i kind of look at this a little like the
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taiwan deal yeah we're not gonna go help i mean it's not gonna happen it is sad i don't know what
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to say about it but like at the end of the day if russia invades them again we're probably not
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stepping in with troops i mean the one thing that you could see as a potential um uh legitimate um
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i don't know offset here or two well actually there's two things one is we in the process of
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this whatever time where they're not you know killing each other whatever long that lasts before
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putin decides to do this again if he does you can build up the defenses of ukraine right you can do
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a good job making a much harder border that's something we can actually i think move but with
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weapons sales and such and europe can help with that as well the other one is potentially having
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troops uh in in that area you know a uh you know like a few troops right like some that would say hey
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you know don't don't invade we have some of our guys there uh sometimes that is enough to offset
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an invasion from a country that doesn't want to get involved with us one of those two is a possibility
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you know i've heard that maybe that that possibility is not going to happen we'll see on that but one
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other thing i wanted to bring up briefly glenn on on the reaction from the european leaders whether
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they were sincere or not obviously we can't read into their thoughts um but i would argue it doesn't
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really matter it doesn't matter if they're sincere in giving trump credit over this in reality that's
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a personality thing and i don't really care about it um one of the things trump is really good at
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though in these situations and this is something that's totally different than uh past presidents
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is projecting american power like last time zelensky was here he was arguing they were bickering they
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were fighting they were you know this time the guy shows up in a suit he is complimentary every
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single step of the way every european leader there sounds like they could be at a maga rally
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like that is not a coincidence right that is donald trump saying look if you want us to be on board with
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any of this you'll come here you'll be respectful you will acknowledge how much the american people have
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given to you most of them not only acknowledge that but also personally thank donald trump over and
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over and over again for that i mean you could argue oh donald trump loves that attention i don't think
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that's what it is i think he's trying to project uh american power and saying hey if you want us to
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be involved in this if you want us to be doing these things that you really need then you will
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understand the the way these countries are stacked and by the way we're at the top of that
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and i don't think that's a bad thing for american president to to be pushing out into the world
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and uh i i think that's part of the reason why you you see there's a chance at success
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again i don't know where how this turns out but you know before trump started doing this we didn't
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even have a lottery ticket for it there was literally no way this was gonna end and everyone's
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been mocking in this entire time and they will all claim this wonderful victory if this war goes on
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as if they were right and they had this wonderful thing at the end of the day though you have to try
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you have to at least attempt these things or there's no chance for success so i i just think that like
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the media and the left is going to get all hung up on on this nonsensical detail but the bottom
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line is we have i think a lot more than a lottery ticket here to solve a really bad problem so let
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so there's two things that i think are the real outcome that should be noticed at this point
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you know when donald trump uh first uh came on the scene um we knew he was going to change things
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when he won the second term he made it very clear he was going to send a message to the world
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that uh he's changing things he's changing the order of the world since the 1940s since breton woods
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um he is he is doing that while we have had every other president since maybe reagan
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start bowing a knee to the global world order remember it was george uh h w bush that said you
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know there's a new world order and the world has been marching to that drum that america is its time
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has passed we're not in the driver's seat anymore we need to have deference to everybody else stop
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leading the world what americans have always wanted was stop being the policeman of the world
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we don't want to be the policeman and we are not being the policeman in the world that donald trump
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is designing right now what we are is the leader of the world and you saw that yesterday if you saw
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any of those pictures uh of all of the world leaders in his office it was like he was the principal
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and he is calling all of the kids in or the teachers in because it's time we have a little
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conference here and i need to tell you what's going on in your own classrooms that's what it felt like
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yesterday that is the projection of global leadership it is clear there is one person that
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is running the world for the first time in a long time i feel like you know the left keeps saying
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oh you know he's just an embarrassment where we don't have any credibility we didn't have any
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credibility with the last guy and you couldn't say this about donald trump in the first the first term
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because the the tide hadn't turned on him yet you know it was still so split but the world
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is behaving differently because of him now this term and he has become the world's leader
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and he's doing it by making peace he's not doing it by threatening he's doing it by by just exhibiting
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leadership getting up in the morning and saying this is what has to be done let's go do it you know
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and i'm going to get to this part here in a second that phone call that he made with zelinski
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is all telling all telling not zelinski but vladimir putin when is the last time you saw
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any world leader without the un just say uh i need all of the big countries i need i need how
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what are there six yesterday i need the big european big six to come on over and sit in my office for a
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while we're going to spend the day together when's the last time i don't think i've ever seen that
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in my whole life i've never seen that and then when he was sitting in that room and they were coming
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to a conclusion and the things were wrapping up for the day he just gets up and says hang on just a
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second i just got to call vladimir putin none of the people in that room could have made that call
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none of them could have made that call but he didn't wait for somebody to tell him to do it
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he just did it he went into the other room out of respect calls vladimir putin up and gets it done
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so i want to give you uh i want to give you the two things that i think
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are the two messages that we should take from all of this um
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we are leading the world and we're not leading the world through military force
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we're not leading the world through um just words and projection of power we're leading the world
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because donald trump is actually going places and leading the world you know when you when you look
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at um he's been saying here um over the last couple of days you know i stopped six wars
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uh well yes and no i guess you could say um you know we could quibble over were these wars or were
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these just flare-ups but i don't know anybody who has done more for world peace as a president
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um in just the last couple of months in a two-month period i don't know of a president who has done more
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for world peace than donald trump name name anyone who is close if they're lucky they'll solve one
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thing he has gone in six different times now and not all of them are you know we're all having our
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fingers crossed that the middle east and iran is at least peaceful for a little while same thing
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with uh ukraine and russia it's not done yet but hopefully when it is done it will last a while it's
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not going to be a forever peace um but look at what he did he he stopped pakistan and india
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from having a nuclear war he is he is bringing peace to the world like i've never seen before
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and again as i said maybe for the first time in my lifetime america is the global leader
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and and i think i say that because well i mean ronald reagan was the global leader
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uh in the 1980s that's the last time that i think that would even be close but ronald reagan still had
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his detractors and they never came to the table you know uh ronald reagan his power came from
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uh just the political prowess that he had here in america um and his just strength of will that he
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just wouldn't give up and then he also had margaret thatcher and the pope on his side
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this president really has not had anybody on his side nobody on his side but you'll notice they're
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no longer taking him on and calling him a thug a clown a dictator or anything else they're not calling
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him any of those things at least the world world leaders the european leaders are no longer saying
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those things they're taking him seriously because he's actually getting things done so a america is in
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a leadership role now why is that one worth really um standing back and admiring for a minute
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because every president every president has tried to reverse that every president has been working on
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this new global coalition you notice he's not talking about let not this what you hear from every
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president we have a global coalition we're cobbling together all these you know uh states of the
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willing all of these people who are coming together and they're willing to stand together
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well that's happening but donald trump is not setting out to get a global coalition he's leading the
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world and a coalition is forming around him and he's really not part of the coalition he's leading the
00:29:54.220
coalition he's saying we're not going to do this we're not doing this ourself but let me show you how
00:29:59.760
it can be done now you guys go and do it we're not providing the arms we're selling ammunition we're
00:30:07.540
selling arms to the europeans they want to do it they can do it so again it's a different kind of
00:30:14.880
leadership we are not the ones paying for it we're not the ones carrying all the weight on our shoulders
00:30:22.820
he's saying look i can get this done but then it's your job to do it it's not ours it's yours
00:30:29.580
that is unlike anything i have ever seen before okay so while he is building coalitions he's leading
00:30:39.440
them he's not just another one of the coalition that's true leadership especially in a time when the
00:30:47.920
whole world has said for a long time now and many of us believed the era of america's leadership is
00:30:56.720
over is it because it sure doesn't look like it to me now and that is and that has been done in six
00:31:06.400
months finally a guy who knows how to wield the power of the united states without being a bully
00:31:15.960
now the second thing and i don't think anybody really understands this
00:31:26.520
i was in during the was it 2007 2008 election i went to the white house because i was called on the
00:31:40.740
carpet by george w bush because i was not happy with the with the war and the way it was going
00:31:47.280
and i had made some comment about i don't remember even what it was but i made some comment on the air
00:31:54.280
that you know hey left you want to impeach him here's the thing you impeach him on because this is
00:32:01.100
actually impeachable and uh that didn't sit well with the bush administration they didn't like that
00:32:07.680
and i get a call on the way home from the studios and it's the white house and this is the first time
00:32:12.720
the white house had ever called me without me reaching out first and uh and i get a call and
00:32:20.140
it's a 202 number and i'm like it's 1414 202 i can't remember 458 or something 1414 and i remember
00:32:27.940
202 that's uh washington dc and 1414 i remember that's the number of the white house
00:32:34.880
and i look at it for a while i'm like i think that's the white house and i pick it up mr beck
00:32:41.020
yes the president would like to see you in the oval tomorrow morning at 10 now i'm on the air at 10
00:32:47.480
o'clock in the morning uh do you think you could make that i didn't even know what to say i i literally
00:32:54.480
held the phone away from my head and i looked at the i'm driving and i look at the phone and i look at
00:33:00.400
the road and i don't even know what to say and i just you know i said well hang on let me check let
00:33:07.620
me check and i put the phone back up next to my ear and i'm like okay it looks good yeah i can be
00:33:13.620
there hang up the phone i it was freaky i get there and the first thing the president says i sit in the
00:33:23.420
chair in the zelinski chair and uh the first thing the president says to me is and laced with
00:33:31.520
profanity you know a lot of people think they know how they can be the effing president well they have
00:33:37.040
no effing idea how to be the effing president and i'm like oh my gosh this is going to be the longest
00:33:46.200
after that was all over and he had that out of his system we stood up at the end and um it was the
00:33:56.740
day that barack obama had said that if he were president he would just fly our planes over the
00:34:03.940
border into pakistan and he would just bomb pakistan well this is at the point where pakistan
00:34:09.960
is kind of helping us okay they're not our friends they're more frenemies but they're kind of helping
00:34:17.640
us at this point and he says uh barack obama says you know and if he would have done that the whole
00:34:24.240
the whole coalition of the willing all of that crap would have gone right out the window and so i
00:34:30.800
said to the president as i'm walking out and he's standing by the oval or by the uh resolute desk and i
00:34:35.620
said um mr president i said uh i don't know if you heard this but today barack obama and he said
00:34:42.540
oh i heard that don't worry about that don't worry about that and i said okay and he said trust me glenn
00:34:49.120
whoever comes into this office no matter what party they're in they're going to sit behind this desk
00:34:54.800
and they're going to realize because they're going to be advised by exactly the same people that have
00:35:00.860
been advising me that they really have no choice this is what they have to do and he said have a
00:35:09.220
good day and i'm like holy cow i walked out and i do you remember me calling you after that still yes
00:35:15.880
um and i was freaked out i was like this is not good the president isn't really the president the
00:35:24.040
president is just listening to all these advisors who were in advising the last president and the
00:35:30.500
president before that and it's all state department stuff and they're just they're just executing a
00:35:36.320
long plan what difference does it make who we have in the office if that's true yeah remember that one
00:35:41.600
specific part of that that you didn't mention was because he was very angry at you but that part of the
00:35:47.340
conversation was meant to make you feel good right it wasn't like an angry thing it was a hey it's okay
00:35:55.800
calm down all the decisions will remain the same and it's like that didn't calm you down much
00:36:01.920
no it made it worse yes and so why do i bring this story up which i've told before why do i bring this
00:36:11.240
story up i bring this story up because when donald trump sat at the table and said just gonna get old
00:36:20.420
vlad on the phone and he stands up walks out of the room with all the world leaders and he just
00:36:27.480
picks up the phone and calls vladimir putin says hey i just want to keep you up to speed what's going
00:36:32.240
on he didn't ask for permission he didn't have anybody whispering in his ear he didn't he's leading
00:36:38.680
the state department he's leading the world he's keeping his own counsel that hasn't been done by a
00:36:47.360
president in i don't know how long and it's why we're once again the leaders of the world
00:36:53.420
because these these advisors all of these doctors and professors and you know uh people who have been
00:37:02.980
in the state department their whole life and no better than everybody donald trump has said to them
00:37:07.740
shut up i've seen your record it doesn't work we've been doing it for a hundred years we're losing
00:37:14.680
credibility we're losing money we're losing uh power and influence i don't want to hear it
00:37:20.860
this is the direction we're going and he didn't have the juice to be able to fire all of those people
00:37:28.900
last time and he put the wrong people in position now at the state department is rubio and i gotta tell
00:37:36.360
you rubio is one of the last guys i would have picked i would have thought rubio was a big globalist
00:37:45.180
so the two things that are happening are really are really based on one thing and that is the
00:37:55.460
president of the united states is in charge of his administration the president of the united
00:38:02.460
states keeps his own counsel the president of the united states listens to the gut his own gut for the
00:38:09.700
first time that i have seen since ronald reagan and ronald reagan did it in one place and that was
00:38:15.460
the soviet union he knew the difference between good and evil and he called it and he didn't care
00:38:22.280
what anybody said donald trump is doing this in in example after example after example he's keeping his
00:38:30.000
own counsel and he is telling his people this is what i'm going to do find the constitutional way
00:38:38.120
to do it because this is what has to be done and he's not taking no for an answer and he's not
00:38:46.300
kowtowing to the people who have been there forever oh mr president you have to listen to this man
00:38:53.020
he's not listening to him if it doesn't make sense to him he's not listening to him and he is not
00:39:00.500
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00:39:12.560
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00:39:25.080
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Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:46:48.820
Last hour, I told you the two things that you need to pull from yesterday's meetings at the White House.
00:46:54.440
And that is that, one, America is in the leadership role again in the world in a way that I have not seen maybe since Reagan.
00:47:04.140
But if it's not Reagan, never before like this in my lifetime.
00:47:08.260
And it comes from the president keeps his own counsel.
00:47:13.020
He is not listening to all of the advisors and the State Department experts and all the experts.
00:47:25.700
Those are the two things that you really need to pull from yesterday.
00:47:30.700
But this hour, I want to talk to you about a couple of things.
00:47:33.860
The rest of the program, I think it's going to take me a while.
00:47:36.140
One, the president spoke today about going to heaven.
00:47:39.100
And I think that's an important thing that we have to just stop and look at and analyze here for just a minute.
00:47:56.120
And I'll explain what America First actually is.
00:48:03.820
It's not the beating of the chest or anything else.
00:48:17.840
So let me explain what America First really means.
00:48:21.480
And be able to do it with what happened yesterday.
00:48:25.200
Also, Eric Schmidt is going to join us in about 60 seconds.
00:48:29.100
He's put together a book called The Last Line of Defense.
00:48:41.440
And the way to beat him is to take them on in the court.
00:48:56.220
But he was the AG in Missouri and was one of the best AGs in the country.
00:49:04.000
We're going to talk to him about his new book, Last Line of Defense.
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But also I want to talk to him about Trump trying to eliminate mail-in ballots.
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Well, let's say hello to one of America's best senators, Eric Schmidt.
00:50:54.800
Because that is truly, you have it right, the last line of defense.
00:50:59.720
Their last line of defense and our last line of defense, which is why I've been saying
00:51:04.440
for a while the AGs are so, really, so important.
00:51:08.120
Before we get there, can I ask you about the thing that's trending in the news today is
00:51:19.720
Because I thought all voting was done by the state.
00:51:25.680
Well, I want to see kind of what the specifics of the proposal are.
00:51:29.700
But yeah, typically elections are run by the states.
00:51:35.640
And the Democrats have tried to federalize elections before.
00:51:41.220
I think what he's talking about is providing leadership with states.
00:51:47.840
And he referenced, I heard the clip before I came on, that Jimmy Carter talked about.
00:51:52.800
There was a Carter-Baker commission about 20 years ago that came out with 10 things you
00:52:00.300
This was really kind of a bipartisan effort of what are the things that, you know, rationally
00:52:06.360
One was to severely limit the ability to have mail-in ballots.
00:52:10.760
In fact, in Missouri, in order to do that, you have to sign an affidavit.
00:52:16.260
It's only a caregiver or a parent or a son or a sibling or a daughter can even help with
00:52:25.020
I think what President Trump's getting at, and I actually talk about it in the book,
00:52:28.160
The Last Line of Defense, it's a chapter, because we took on Mark Elias in Missouri during
00:52:33.220
He tried to upend these laws across the country that protected the integrity of elections.
00:52:42.500
And what they did was they just mailed out, Glenn, ballots to everybody, everybody across
00:52:51.500
That's the real problem with mail-in balloting is there's no real verification that that's
00:52:56.240
They do ballot harvesting, illegal immigrants vote.
00:52:59.100
You saw that kind of in the lead up to the 2024 election.
00:53:02.100
The RNC this time was very well prepared for that.
00:53:04.780
It went to court ahead of time to beat it back, whereas in 2020, a lot of people were caught
00:53:10.300
I know we're going to talk about the book in detail, and I wasn't planning on talking
00:53:13.840
about the book in that way, but we do talk about that.
00:53:16.200
The left was hell-bent on using this pandemic as a reason to undermine all the election integrity
00:53:23.780
And in some places, they were successful, and it certainly affected the election.
00:53:28.420
So it's good to do it in the states like you did.
00:53:30.980
You took on Mark Elias, and I didn't know this was in the book.
00:53:35.940
You took him on, you battled that in Missouri, you held the line, but what we're going to
00:53:46.100
I mean, look at what Gavin Newsom is doing right now, the three people that just died
00:53:56.460
And Gavin Newsom is like, hey, Donald Trump's administration let him in.
00:54:03.000
They had already said by 2019 that this guy needed to be removed.
00:54:11.400
Why would you give him a truck driving license?
00:54:18.740
And what we're getting to is this country that is split in two.
00:54:22.520
We've got states that are using common sense and the law, and the other states that are just
00:54:32.000
Yeah, no, but here, let me, I guess, offer, yes, and this is the problem with mass migration.
00:54:38.180
Illegal immigration, mass migration, what it does to communities.
00:54:43.720
They made a bet that if they open up the borders and you bring 20 million people in here, that
00:54:52.140
They would eliminate the filibuster in the Senate.
00:55:00.120
They would do all the things that they did in one fell swoop to aggregate power and exercise
00:55:05.880
Here's the good news, though, that in 2024, in November, I think the fever broke.
00:55:11.560
We lived through this fever dream of sort of the woke left.
00:55:14.620
And it's hard to, you know, I think people forget how to, what a grip the woke left had
00:55:20.060
And it's honestly, Glenn, it's one of the reasons why I wrote the book Last Mind Defense
00:55:23.740
that's available on Amazon now is because during those dark days, President Trump was out of
00:55:33.660
It sort of fell to this relatively unknown group of people.
00:55:39.760
And so you've got to remember, take the DeLorean back in time here.
00:55:43.580
This was a time of lockdowns, compulsory COVID shots, deliberately open borders, DEI struggle
00:55:50.980
sessions, ESG requirements in a censorship enterprise so vast that the Biden administration
00:55:57.900
It's the biggest affront to the First Amendment in American history.
00:56:00.360
And so what I decided to do in that moment, I mean, I didn't think that was going to be
00:56:03.900
my role, but my role ended up being trying to hold the line until the cavalry came and
00:56:09.320
So we fought vaccine mandate to the Supreme Court.
00:56:12.220
We fought the student loan debt forgiveness scam at the Supreme Court.
00:56:15.220
We brought the Missouri versus Biden censorship case and we exposed this vast censorship enterprise.
00:56:19.940
And so what the book does, it's kind of a behind the scenes look, Lynn, which you'll
00:56:25.160
What was it like to take the deposition of Anthony Fauci?
00:56:28.680
What did we learn from Elvis Chan, who was the FBI guy in Northern California, who was pre-bunking
00:56:36.480
This agency dedicated to cybersecurity infrastructure.
00:56:39.700
Why were they involved with silencing Americans?
00:56:42.520
Why were they involved in the election integrity project meant to silence Americans and affect
00:56:47.980
All these things that were going on, this landscape that I saw in that role, we fought back and
00:56:59.640
You have to be willing to stand in that arena and fight back when all the slings and arrows are
00:57:03.940
coming at you, I'll tell you, when I sued 50 plus school districts in Missouri for their
00:57:11.420
There were reporters interviewing me with masks on in their cars because they weren't in, they
00:57:17.620
And they're interviewing me saying, why are you trying to kill the kids, basically?
00:57:21.320
And I was saying, look, there's no science behind this.
00:57:25.760
Your kids are twice as likely to die from a dog attack in COVID.
00:57:30.380
And these adults who should know better are, you know, abusing their power and somebody
00:57:37.820
It's, hey, in the darkest times, you need courage.
00:57:42.120
We have to continue to fight and win because they're coming for our freedoms and our liberties.
00:57:45.480
They're just out of power, but we have to, you know, kind of maintain this hold on the
00:57:51.840
We're talking to Senator Eric Schmidt about his new book, The Last Line of Defense.
00:57:58.260
I think Senator Schmidt, Eric, if I may call you that, has been on the front lines and is
00:58:06.440
one of the most important leaders and voices when it comes to how to fight the left and how
00:58:13.440
to do it legally, how to make sure we're keeping them in check by using the law.
00:58:20.080
You know, the Frederick Douglass once said that the Constitution was the greatest affront
00:58:26.680
to liberty and it was a slave document until he was urged to read.
00:58:34.080
And somebody came up to him and said, hey, would you read this book about it, The Unconstitutionality
00:58:39.540
He did, and he completely flipped and said, no, this is the greatest freedom document because
00:58:49.180
And that's what we have to understand is that the laws, when we actually know them, learn
00:58:56.720
them, and apply them, we can set people free again.
00:59:02.540
And, you know, we have to have smart, brave people actually doing those things.
00:59:08.580
You know, one of the things on the mask mandates, you fought it in Missouri, but it doesn't feel
00:59:14.340
to me that we've really learned our lesson from that.
00:59:18.680
The, the, these vaccine mandates and everything else, it doesn't feel like that's never going
00:59:24.900
That feels like that could happen again in a heartbeat.
00:59:28.960
Because the playbook that they had was you have an emergency, real or imagined, created,
00:59:35.260
aggregate power, other people, the othering of, of your fellow brothers and sisters, and
00:59:42.600
They were executing that code was a bit, a bit of a trial run.
00:59:45.540
They couldn't believe their luck that the left could move something like this.
00:59:49.600
And, you know, it's interesting because you and I, you and I, I think first met in person
00:59:54.040
in Utah, and this was in 2021 and RFK actually, RFK Jr. was actually there too.
01:00:02.220
And we had a conversation and I, and I, and I recount this in the book.
01:00:06.100
Um, he, he reminded me of something that I hadn't read or even thought of in years was
01:00:12.660
So in the 1950s at Yale, they did this experiment where people would come in, there was a guy
01:00:17.980
in a white coat and a clipboard and you'd come in and there was somebody paid on the
01:00:24.300
But when the other side person on the other side of the wall gave a wrong answer, the
01:00:28.300
guy in the white coat would instruct the participant of the experiment to turn up the pain gauge.
01:00:34.720
And then, you know, another wrong answer, they'd ask him to crank it up, crank it up more, crank
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Even if like, they were told that somebody might die on the other side.
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If I remember right, if, if I remember right, they kept cranking it up and the, the, the
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And there was no sound that the other person that was cranking could hear.
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And the doctor would say he didn't answer meaning, you know, like the guy could be dead.
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He didn't answer, crank it up again, give him another shock.
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They, they might've killed the guy in their mind.
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And you, and what that, that haunted me, that story, it haunted me during COVID and gave
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me strength because what I knew was, you know, you had Fauci on TV and in this just acceptance
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In many ways, you need courageous people who are going to stand up and say, no, you're wrong.
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Um, actually these five-year-olds shouldn't be forced to wear masks all day long.
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Um, people shouldn't, you know, the guy's working overtime to, to feed his family, shouldn't
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lose his job if he chooses not to get a COVID shot, but they were trying to lead people along
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here down this really dangerous path of petty totalitarianism.
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And so I think it's, it's easy for us to kind of forget about that.
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Glenn, like, you know, I think in, in some ways, you know, watching tiger King was fun
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I'm, you know, I, I, you know, played, you know, a lot more with my kids at the early
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days, but that became a terrible experiment, a terrible experiment.
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And so really what the last line of defense was, what did we do in those moments?
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And, um, there, I wasn't the only one, but I think those lessons learned, um, you know,
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uh, there's a, a check, check writer, uh, Milan Kadir once said something like, you know,
01:02:24.060
the struggle against power is, is man's struggle, um, of memory versus forgetting.
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And, um, and, you know, think about what they were trying to do with president Trump with
01:02:34.820
So I think for a long time, conservatives viewed the courts as a place where they didn't want
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And, you know, that there were so many people telling us the constitution is a living document
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and, you know, the, you know, um, you know, the, the left kind of controlled the courts that's
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And thanks to president Trump, we actually have real judges who believe in law and order and
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And so we can be in that arena, we can fight back and we can win.
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And I think those important lessons as we fight to hold onto this constitutional Republican,
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you know, as you were citing history and Ben Franklin, who walks out of the convention
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So we have to be willing to fight on all fronts.
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We're talking to, uh, Senator Eric Schmidt from Missouri.
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Uh, I don't think people really understand, uh, the machine that the left Mark Elias is
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really a big part of this, that the machine of the left has really built, uh, to take
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on, uh, everything that we are doing, everything we believe in, in the courts to try to destroy
01:05:59.540
Um, they just came out recently and said, if we win the house, it is impeachment.
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And it's, they're talking about impeaching Tulsi Gabbard, everybody.
01:06:09.820
I mean, their, their whole plan is just to gum up the machine and just grind everything
01:06:20.780
Can you explain Eric a little bit about, um, the plan that they have and how vast this
01:06:28.020
Yeah, I mean, they, they, they are willing, um, to use all levers at all times for their
01:06:36.420
And the things that conservatives kind of hold onto is providing structure guardrails,
01:06:42.140
I mean, they, if they had it their way, like I said, they would just simply be adding states
01:06:47.920
Um, did you, and by the way, did you see the, did you see the, the article in the New York
01:06:52.700
Times yesterday, the, the pack the courts, I mean, it was, and by the way, it was think
01:07:01.060
And think about how dangerous of a road this is.
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Like, let's just take, let's just play this out.
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I don't want to cut you off in the middle of it.
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Uh, and we'll come back with that and so much more last line of defense is the name of the
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Let's imagine for a minute that you're Russian.
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Uh, you just had a meeting with Donald Trump and in the middle of it, a massive B2 bomber and
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four fighter jets flew directly over your head.
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You managed to keep a straight face, but, uh, you know, the second you're back at the Kremlin,
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Uh, you know, it's finally time to go to sleep, but of course you can't, you know, your mind
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He's got a new book out called the last line of defense.
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These are really stories from the front line, but also stories that we need to learn from,
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uh, and, and make sure we are voting for the right AGs and, and all of us need to grow
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I know you have a spine, but maybe there's somebody in your family that needs to grow a
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spine, uh, or maybe somebody that is an AG in your state that needs to grow a spine.
01:09:27.580
You know, as we were just talking, um, Eric, before the break about how the, uh, the left,
01:09:33.480
the New York times just ran an op-ed about, you know, packing the courts, uh, you know,
01:09:39.940
I mean, everything that they could do to undermine the constitution and the rule of law, they're
01:09:45.700
now openly saying gotta do it, which would completely destroy the United States of America.
01:09:53.860
It's, it's the founding of an entirely new country and system.
01:09:59.500
I'm, I'm generally very optimistic guy, but I do think you'd have a bit of a shot clock
01:10:03.640
start on the Republic if they got their way and they're not hiding it.
01:10:07.100
They're not, they're actually saying, uh, Democrats are campaigning on it.
01:10:12.120
So if you played it out, like if they really wanted to do this, the way, what it would look
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like is, you know, they win the house, they get the Senate, they eliminate the filibuster in
01:10:21.540
the Senate, they pack the Supreme court to get their way.
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And by the way, if you do that, of course, the response would be then a Republicans ever
01:10:31.400
Well, you added four, why don't we add 10 and why not 50?
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And then all of a sudden you end up with a banana Republic.
01:10:37.900
It doesn't resemble this constitutional Republic.
01:10:40.540
That's supposed to have a federal government of limited powers and these kind of, you know,
01:10:44.160
really kind of guardrails that our founders created to protect against the sort of ambition
01:10:51.040
And that's why I think it's really important to stand up and fight.
01:10:55.400
And again, why I wrote the book, Glenn, I just, I just saw it in that role.
01:11:00.840
And so, you know, the last line of defense, how to beat the left in court.
01:11:03.340
I think the easiest way is people on their phone just go to Amazon and over right now,
01:11:14.780
We talk about how we took that on the COVID wars.
01:11:17.000
We talk about protecting sovereignty and these deliberately open borders.
01:11:20.460
And we held that off for a while, dismantling the administrative state, fighting for the
01:11:26.260
And there's woke ideology, these DEI struggle sessions and CRT in our schools.
01:11:31.240
But I do think perhaps the culmination of all of it, Glenn, was the Missouri versus Biden
01:11:36.820
lawsuit where we uncovered the censorship enterprise.
01:11:39.560
It really laid out in full view what they were willing to do.
01:11:48.240
I think their foundation that they laid, everything was Russian misinformation, disinformation.
01:11:53.360
It gave them license to try to undermine President Trump's first term.
01:11:56.520
They tried to, again, affect the 2020 election.
01:11:59.340
And then when Biden's in, this apparatus that was created was supercharged.
01:12:04.700
And so when we took the deposition, say, for example, of Elvis Chan, who was the FBI guy
01:12:08.760
in Northern California, I mean, he didn't hide from it, they were having monthly, then weekly
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meetings with the biggest companies in the history of the world, these big tech giants,
01:12:18.180
and saying, look out for this Russian hack and leak operation.
01:12:22.020
Yoel Roth, who's this guy from Twitter, who's an integrity guy, testified or wrote an affidavit
01:12:26.300
that said, he specifically said the Hunter Biden laptop story was going to be a Russian disinformation
01:12:35.000
In 2019, they had the laptop, they verified it.
01:12:38.200
It was Hunter Biden's, yet they were still trying to affect things by saying this was
01:12:55.960
He tells the American people that you have to wear masks or you can't go to school.
01:12:59.220
What they were willing to do to control the narrative and to get what they wanted, to
01:13:04.680
oust President Trump, to get the American people to be part of this left-wing movement
01:13:10.640
that they really believed in and bought in, the culmination of that, of course, is the
01:13:13.920
things that we're talking about, packing the court, having a permanent majority, all
01:13:18.140
But uncovering all that as AG and seeing it was just really eye-opening.
01:13:22.980
It certainly affects my service now in the Senate.
01:13:25.100
I've seen it all, and I'm trying to fight back against that stuff.
01:13:28.100
Anyway, what was the moment in probably that case, but in any of the cases where you couldn't
01:13:42.580
So when we filed the Missouri versus Biden lawsuit, go back in time again, hop in the
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James Comey and Jim Jordan weren't having hearings yet.
01:13:58.860
We were watching, I was watching Jim Psaki at the podium talk about, hey, we're flagging
01:14:03.480
posts for Facebook for misinformation about vaccines or masks.
01:14:08.620
And then remember, they floated this idea of a disinformation governance board with that
01:14:12.200
Mary Poppins person, you know, talking about it, whatever.
01:14:16.480
And I couldn't believe, I thought like the Orwellian term, Ministry of Truth, must have already
01:14:22.000
been taken to come up with this term in America, that the government was going to decide what
01:14:31.440
We filed the lawsuit and we sued everybody under the sun in the federal government, all
01:14:35.980
And one strategic decision that we outlined in the book, Last Line of Defense, is we sought
01:14:40.480
discovery first before we sought a preliminary injunction, because I knew there'd be a lot
01:14:46.140
People would call it a crazy conspiracy theory.
01:14:50.540
And that was the moment, Glenn, when we got the documents, the emails, the text messages
01:14:55.720
from high-ranking government officials to senior executives at the social media companies about
01:15:03.560
And this started three days into their administration.
01:15:06.560
On day three, they began this censorship enterprise that was this leviathan of government agencies.
01:15:14.260
This was the CDC telling the social media companies, these are the words and phrases that we want
01:15:25.420
A guy by the name of Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who's now, by the way, the head of the NIH,
01:15:32.620
He was, they tried to, Fauci tried to destroy this man because of the crime of saying natural
01:15:41.920
And so, again, I think it's easy to kind of forget about this stuff, but I don't forget
01:15:48.060
And that's why I wrote the book, because we can't let it happen again.
01:15:51.480
So we're talking about the book, The Last Line of Defense, available everywhere now.
01:15:55.040
You know, I have not gotten a good answer from anybody on this.
01:15:58.920
Why have we not repealed the Smith-Munt Modernization Act that in, what, 2008 or 2009, Barack Obama put
01:16:11.960
through, and it allowed propaganda to be done on citizens in the United States?
01:16:26.980
Why hasn't anyone stood up and said, no propaganda on the American people?
01:16:34.320
One of the things that I'm very focused on, and so I handled the rescissions package in
01:16:43.680
I think it was on your show talking about we covered $8 billion for all this nonsense,
01:16:49.460
There's something called the National Endowment for Democracy.
01:16:52.140
And one of the things we talk about in this book is we have to dismantle not just this
01:16:56.040
big government to big tech collusion that happens, but what the government has decided to do in
01:17:04.320
They outsource some of the censorship to Stanford and University of Washington to flag stuff so
01:17:08.140
they could say, well, that's actually them doing it.
01:17:09.780
They're working with the social media, but they were funding it just like we're funding
01:17:13.000
a lot of these NGOs that do two things, principally more than that, but two big things.
01:17:18.000
They were the ones, these NGOs, funded by your tax dollars, fueling mass migration through
01:17:23.100
our southern border and working on censoring American speech.
01:17:27.080
And we have to get rid of that all together because it is what became very clear to me
01:17:33.600
in writing this book and reflecting on it, but in the moment was I couldn't believe, I
01:17:38.920
mean, most Americans, these alphabet soup agencies that exist, they've never heard of many of them
01:17:44.440
unless they're out to ruin their lives, which sometimes happens, but they were all in, like
01:17:50.700
And some of the high profile stuff, of course, was the FBI going after Catholics and parents
01:17:56.220
But again, also, I would say to Glenn, one of the things that lay out in the last line of
01:18:01.240
defense is I saw from the highest levels of government to then the local superintendent at
01:18:07.040
a school district, how does a superintendent in Springfield, Missouri, become so infatuated
01:18:14.920
Well, these organizations, these think tanks are funded.
01:18:19.320
They say, here are the training materials for your teachers and staff.
01:18:22.160
So when people say, well, CRT is not a class in a grade school, it doesn't need to be a class.
01:18:27.180
If everybody's trained to divide the classroom by oppressor and oppressed, you have now affected
01:18:35.120
And they are very serious about all of this stuff.
01:18:38.240
And that's why President Trump, and I start the book by saying in November, 2024, the fever
01:18:43.420
broke, because I think now we're on the other side of it.
01:18:47.340
Part of what I like about this administration, it's a team of disruptors that we so desperately
01:19:00.860
And we have to be willing to do that in the court system as well.
01:19:03.540
The name of the book is The Last Line of Defense, How to Beat the Left in Court, which
01:19:13.200
I'm thrilled to see what President Trump is doing.
01:19:21.160
Can you tell me, what do you make of the Andrew Bailey being named the deputy director
01:19:30.700
And by the way, I don't like taking him out of the AG role in Missouri.
01:19:42.860
And I think, you know, the call to service, it's an important position.
01:19:47.180
And I think, you know, he's a guy that served in the military, served as AG.
01:19:52.380
I think he views it as a way to serve now in an agency that, you know, needs a lot of
01:19:58.960
So, you know, it's a loss for Missouri, for sure.
01:20:02.200
And my successor, Andrew, you know, done a great job on some of his own cases, the cases
01:20:12.440
You know, we're looking at all of these things coming out.
01:20:16.260
And, you know, you say how to beat the court, how to beat the left in court.
01:20:24.080
And with all of the things that are coming out now about Russiagate, and, you know, I
01:20:29.480
just saw Tulsi Gabbard talking about Andrew Fauci again, and how, you know, there's new
01:20:42.180
The Senate has not opened up and confirmed the new U.S.
01:20:54.120
And are you convinced that we are doing enough to get these cases into court?
01:21:01.000
Are we going to see any justice in the court system?
01:21:05.560
First is, I'm actually in a working group right now, today in September.
01:21:11.280
We're going to change the rules in the Senate, and not in a way that affects the Senate like
01:21:17.320
This has never happened in the history of the country.
01:21:22.240
There's a legislative calendar, an executive calendar, where we do confirmations, and then
01:21:27.220
There's only three things we do in one of those three calendars.
01:21:30.880
Usually what happens is, on the executive calendar, for the history of the Republic, there's
01:21:35.240
no roll call votes on the ambassador to Uruguay.
01:21:45.560
But the Democrats have objected to every single appointment that President Trump has made
01:21:54.980
We're going to say, look, you don't have to wait, you know, for multiple hours for every
01:22:02.920
If that's the game you want to play, we're going to get President Trump's team in place.
01:22:07.940
And I think that'll, you know, the Democrats are competing to be who the chief resistor is.
01:22:11.840
As far as the other cases go, I actually think, and I have an op-ed out yesterday, about a
01:22:22.240
And I think Brennan, Clapper, and Comey, you know, ought to be lawyering up here.
01:22:28.320
Because now, Obama, ironically, has presidential immunity because of what they did to President
01:22:35.780
And actually, my Solicitor General, John Sauer, is the Solicitor General of the United States
01:22:39.720
now, and was President Trump's lawyer in that case, and won.
01:22:43.560
So basically, Obama might have immunity for the time he was in office.
01:22:52.780
But I think that the indictments are coming, and they should be on Russiagate.
01:22:58.060
attorneys go, I think that's sort of the next thing to move to get his team in place to
01:23:04.280
I mean, more than anything else, but there's a lot of corruption that I think they're still
01:23:10.220
uncovering in a lot of these agencies, and there ought to be accountability.
01:23:14.340
Senator Eric Schmidt, it is always good to talk to you.
01:23:17.360
Thank you for all of your hard work over the years.
01:23:20.280
You're really, truly one of the good guys fighting the valiant fight.
01:23:27.280
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I have to tell you, we have so much to talk about just from yesterday.
01:25:43.320
Um, I really want to explain to you, uh, what America first really is because you saw it
01:25:50.580
in action yesterday and it's not what the left says it is.
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She's going to be joining us here in just a second to explain the progressive liberal mindset,
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but also how she views what happened yesterday at the white house.
01:26:08.700
So imagine you're in your kitchen and you're enjoying a cup of coffee and hear a knock at
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And there's a moving truck pulling into your driveway and strangers hop out and they've
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waving paperwork and they're saying, you know, thanks for selling us your house.
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Except you didn't, you know, this, this is the, uh, bizarre upside down world of home title
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fraud, where someone can literally steal the title of your home online and take out loans
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against it and then leave you cleaning up the mess.
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And the last thing you need is to wake up one day and to find that it's legally belonging
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Do not let it change the name on your home's title.
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I want to show you, uh, this hour, America first in action.
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Um, it is actually, well, I'll get into that here in just a second.
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She's one of my, she's one of my favorite thinkers in the world.
01:28:37.140
I, I, I love watching her think she's in, uh, times of London columnist.
01:28:43.700
And, and, um, I saw her recently, uh, breaking down the liberal mindset, which is the way she
01:28:51.140
It is just, you will get a new understanding of, uh, the progressive mindset.
01:28:57.560
And, and I think at least for me, why I feel the way I do, I have so much frustration, uh,
01:29:05.640
listening to liberals because it's just, they're just so full of self-righteousness.
01:29:11.380
And you're like, how, how is this working for you?
01:29:14.340
And, and she explains it in a way that, uh, at least it helped me feel better.
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I, at least I feel like I understood it a little bit more.
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I also want to get her quick thoughts on, uh, anything if she saw, uh, yesterday, the
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world coming to the white house and meeting, what, what does she make of the European leaders?
01:29:33.800
Uh, you know, the, the New York times was saying today, well, they were just kowtowing
01:29:37.800
because otherwise they're going to yell that by Donald Trump, you know, the day before the
01:29:41.960
New York times was saying something entirely different.
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They'll say something entirely different tomorrow, but what does she take away from that?
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From the Times of London, a columnist there, Melanie Phillips.
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I'm a big, I'm a big fan of yours and I want to get into liberal mindset here in a second,
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but I wanted to first touch on, if you had any thoughts, I don't know if you had a chance
01:31:34.240
to really sit down or even had a chance to really process it yet, of what's happened
01:31:39.080
just over the weekend with President Trump meeting with Putin and then calling all of
01:31:49.480
What was the real message or the impression that you took away from all of this?
01:31:55.100
Well, it was very comical to see all these leaders who really can't stand President Trump
01:31:59.460
all lined up, like schoolchildren with a headmaster.
01:32:05.860
Because, you know, he is the most consequential politician of our lifetime and in the world
01:32:10.180
today, and they have no option but to try and manage this presidency and get on with
01:32:19.100
But they were there for obviously, you know, a particular reason.
01:32:22.160
They wanted to support President Zelensky, support his cause to the president and to plead
01:32:32.720
his cause, really, that President Trump should not rule Zelensky over and basically hand him
01:32:41.220
over, as they would see it, to surrender to President Putin.
01:32:46.420
And I think, I don't know whether those leaders had any particular influence, I suspect very
01:32:53.420
But something has changed in President Trump's attitude, I think.
01:32:59.840
I mean, it seemed to me he was a little bit down after he had his meeting in Anchorage with
01:33:10.300
And I thought, you know, here he is coming up against the dead end of his President Trump's
01:33:17.280
world view, which is basically that every world leader is capable of being either threatened
01:33:28.560
And there are some leaders who cannot, who will not do that.
01:33:31.260
And there are some leaders with whom President Trump, I think, is going to find, is finding
01:33:37.420
And so in that mood, we saw, when he met the world leaders and President Zelensky, we
01:33:47.380
It may not amount to very much, but in a kind of mood music, first of all, you know, there
01:33:52.280
was a great sort of show of amity, obviously very different from the last time President
01:33:56.640
Zelensky was in the White House, which was disastrous.
01:33:59.640
So all sides were off their best behavior and all was kind of sweetness and light.
01:34:04.600
But the more consequential thing was that President Trump said, you know, understand that the
01:34:15.820
And if push comes to shove, America will help them do it.
01:34:20.080
Now, that's a very big change from President Trump's previous position.
01:34:24.480
It may not amount to very much in the short or medium term.
01:34:29.040
But nevertheless, it was a change of mood music.
01:34:32.120
Now, we'll see how President Putin responds to what's being offered.
01:34:36.600
I would have thought that President Putin would not be very keen on NATO stroke, the Europeans
01:34:45.820
being involved in the military defense of Ukraine at all.
01:34:52.900
He made it very clear that he won't put up with that.
01:34:55.380
So I would be surprised if he were to actually, you know, be enthusiastic about this kind of deal.
01:35:02.860
It's obviously a high-stakes poker game, isn't it?
01:35:09.200
So it's weird that you would say this because I didn't catch the downbeat, but you may be right on that.
01:35:15.220
But did you – is it just American wishful thinking in a way that – I've never seen a president or really any world leader like this
01:35:28.320
call for a meeting like this and get everybody to sit around the desk exactly like, you know,
01:35:35.580
a principal calling, you know, the teachers in and having a sit-down with all of them.
01:35:42.860
And the image that I came away with is that America is leading again, but not in the way where we are, you know,
01:35:56.560
threatening bombs and everything else, but we're just – we're being the facilitator in a way of making this happen
01:36:05.640
and bringing people together that I don't think would have ever come together, you know, for anybody else.
01:36:21.920
None of us has ever seen anything like that before.
01:36:24.320
But I think it's a testimony to President Trump's power.
01:36:29.340
And, as I say, you know, he's the most consequential politician in the world today.
01:36:37.260
And people feel they have to, you know, foreign leaders who don't like him even, feel they have to dance to his tune.
01:36:45.300
They're all working out ways in which to manage him, mainly through slashery.
01:36:52.320
Sir Keir Starmer, the British Prime Minister, I think is particularly adept at this.
01:36:57.480
He seems to have made a friend of President Trump in the sense that President Trump has said warm things about him.
01:37:04.960
He's found a way, I think Keir Starmer found a way of, you know, getting treated on a personal level.
01:37:10.960
All that amounts to, in the end, you know, probably not more than a hill of beans.
01:37:16.720
But it doesn't really impress me very much that all these world leaders are dancing attendance upon him.
01:37:31.940
But the important thing is, you know, what is President Trump going to do about President Putin and his attempt to destroy the integrity of Ukraine?
01:37:43.260
Does President Trump now believe that it is in America's interests for President Putin to be pushed back?
01:37:54.040
Or does he still think that it's nothing to do with America?
01:37:57.200
And if Europe wants to do this, well, that's Europe's affair and it can jolly well get on with it.
01:38:02.180
It seems there's been a bit of a change, but I don't know.
01:38:06.980
But this is the question of, you know, when Putin basically turns around and says to President Trump, you know, you can go and shove your beast deal, as he may do.
01:38:22.580
Not this spectacle of all these pathetic prime ministers and presidents.
01:38:28.220
You know, it's funny that you would say this because I read this slightly different in that I think President Trump was changing the systems that had been set up since World War II.
01:38:45.200
And when he was saying, you know, NATO, you know, I don't know if NATO really matters anymore and, you know, you can do whatever you want.
01:38:53.280
I think that was to tell Europe we're not paying the bill anymore and we're not going to be the first to rush in and be the world's policeman anymore.
01:39:06.120
And when they started to carry their own bags, I think I think that's he was doing that to get them to carry some of the weight in their own bags.
01:39:15.180
And he does believe in a world order that, you know, that we help each other out on our allies.
01:39:21.080
So I think it's not as much of a change as it's a completion of the strategy.
01:39:29.900
I think you're entirely right that he was trying to gee up the reculcitrant Europeans to stop just riding on America's coattails.
01:39:44.580
I think, you know, for decades, the Europeans have just relied upon America being there to support them militarily and in the defense of the free world
01:39:57.080
without feeling that they have to step up to the plate themselves.
01:40:01.100
And I think I personally entirely agree with him.
01:40:06.640
But you know much more about American politics and culture than I do.
01:40:11.300
But it seemed to me that when he became when he was elected and reelected as president,
01:40:18.860
he was surrounded, as he still is, by a number of people who I would call real isolationists.
01:40:25.380
Who really do believe that what goes on in Europe is of no concern to America.
01:40:32.200
It's not in America's interest to get involved.
01:40:34.020
The last thing they want is to expend blood and treasure on anywhere in Europe because it has nothing to do with them.
01:40:39.840
And this troubled me because I think that this kind of isolationism in America has a long tail, a long historical tail.
01:40:50.480
And I think that, you know, yes, America has got to put its own interests first.
01:40:56.300
But it is in America's interests to refrain Putin.
01:41:01.840
The British mother way, if Putin were to take over Ukraine,
01:41:07.900
I'm absolutely certain that he would see that as the gateway to make further incursions into the old Soviet Union empire.
01:41:22.400
Because this man, Putin, believes that he's a kind of reincarnation of Peter the Great.
01:41:28.600
He believes in the restoration of the old Russian empire.
01:41:33.020
And if America's isolationists really do believe, if they really do believe that if that were to happen,
01:41:44.080
a resurgent Russian empire run by a man like Putin and the Communist Party would be of no,
01:41:52.680
would not put America in greater danger than it now is.
01:42:00.200
And that's what I think President Trump was kind of leaning towards in his earlier weeks or months.
01:42:06.840
I will tell you, I will tell you, Mellie, I'm going to give a monologue here in just a minute,
01:42:17.580
I think that's a misreading of what Donald Trump was moving towards.
01:42:23.840
I think you're right, he is surrounded by isolationists.
01:42:28.140
But I think he was going for something different because he does believe America needs to play a leadership role.
01:42:36.340
And that means you're actually engaged in things.
01:42:39.580
We're going to run out of time, and I don't want to do that.
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Let me take 60 seconds and come back because I want you to explain what I heard you talk about the liberal mindset.
01:42:47.040
It is so clarifying and so spot on that I wanted you to share it with the audience.
01:42:56.060
Last two days, they were up here at the ranch, and we were filming some stuff.
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You know, the New York Times is saying, oh, they're the new PBS, which I guess makes me the new Big Bird.
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But we're doing some things for kids and really trying to teach history, and it's going to be in all of the schools through the Department of Education for the AP history classes.
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And I can't say enough good things about Dennis Prager and what he has built.
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By the way, Dennis is still really not well after he had the problem with his back.
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But he has made such an impact with PragerU, and now is the time.
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Right now, this month, they have a matching donor that if you give a dollar, they'll give a dollar.
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And I know some of their plans, and they know some of my plans.
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And we're working closely together to save American history and to put it into proper perspective.
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Your gift's going to be matched dollar for dollar by the end of August.
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So, Melanie, I've been so frustrated by the progressive left because of their self-righteousness.
01:44:36.360
They just are just, they're just better than us.
01:44:38.420
They're just good people, and they know they're good people, and they're good people because they're liberal.
01:44:49.000
And the way you set it up and the way you explained it, it was helpful for me to understand why I'm so frustrated at times.
01:45:03.020
Sorry, which particular aspect of the liberal mindset are you talking about?
01:45:06.200
Well, you were talking about, you were talking about how they view themselves as good, and that's what makes them a liberal, because liberals are good.
01:45:19.680
So, okay, so they believe in things like the betterment of humanity.
01:45:25.380
They believe in things like compassion and standing for justice and for standing up against women at home and abroad and for standing against racial bigotry and prejudice and all those sorts of things.
01:45:43.420
Now, many of those things I believe in, but they believe that because they believe in those things, that makes them liberals.
01:45:54.120
Because they actually think that the world will be a better place if they weren't Western nations, that the West is fundamentally evil and wrong and bad.
01:46:07.880
But because they believe that this is their badge of moral identity, they believe that believing all these things makes them good people.
01:46:16.700
Anyone who challenges any of that is written off as not just wrong, but evil.
01:46:25.460
And because they're evil, they won't listen to a word that you say.
01:46:29.280
So if you produce facts and evidence and say, well, you know, you would think X, but actually you're wrong because look at all these facts and evidence.
01:46:36.120
They say, I can't possibly believe that because it's coming from a tainted source.
01:46:41.820
I mean, frankly, if I were to say, you know, today is Tuesday, they would say, well, I did think today might be Tuesday.
01:46:48.140
But on the other hand, now that she has said it, since she is a neo-Nazi or fascist or ultra right-winger or whatever, whatever epithet they decide that they're going to give me on that particular day.
01:47:00.180
But because she said that, it can't be Tuesday, it must be Monday.
01:47:06.640
And it sounds bizarre, but you can't really get through that.
01:47:10.200
And that's the insufferable moral self-righteousness.
01:47:14.640
And they don't actually believe in the things that they think they believe in.
01:47:18.180
You know, the idea that they believe in the wretched, you know, they have compassion for the wretched of the earth.
01:47:23.280
When you look at, for example, their support for the Palestinian Arabs of Gaza.
01:47:27.540
If they really supported the wretched of the earth, if they really supported the Arabs of Gaza, they would be out on the streets demonstrating against Hamas for locking them up, for killing them in great number, for persecuting them.
01:47:47.200
They say nothing about people who are being persecuted all over the world.
01:47:51.300
They say nothing about the women who are so dreadfully abused and raped and tortured and stoned in the Islamic world.
01:48:02.660
They don't care about any of the people they purport to care about.
01:48:06.760
What they care about is their own sense of themselves as wonderful, good, righteous, upright, morally wonderful people.
01:48:17.700
Their image to themselves as their image to themselves in this respect and their image among similar people.
01:48:25.000
It's a kind of echo chamber of self-righteousness.
01:48:28.420
And if you puncture that, if you try and puncture that by giving them facts, such as look at all the women who were not just raped but sexually mutilated in the Hamas-led atrocities of October 7, 2023, they won't even think about that.
01:48:47.060
They won't even acknowledge that it even happened.
01:48:49.680
Melanie Phillips, thank you so much from the Times of London.
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I need a full three hours again today just to get to all the stuff that I wanted to get to.
01:50:40.600
I'm not going to be able to get to really defining America first and using yesterday as an example.
01:50:50.740
One of my favorite lines from the Princess Bride, it does not mean what you think it means.
01:50:56.100
I do not think it means what you think it means.
01:50:59.060
It was in full view yesterday, and I haven't heard anybody talk about it.
01:51:04.080
And I want to really explain that, but I want to have enough time to do that, and we'll do it on tomorrow's show.
01:51:09.400
Also, if you missed earlier today, there were a couple of lessons that, again, I think is unique that I laid out in hour number one of today's podcast,
01:51:22.300
and that is the lessons from the summit yesterday.
01:51:26.540
And to summarize, one, America is back, leading without wars, building coalitions, but putting America first without disengaging.
01:51:37.700
We are leading the coalition, we are building the coalition, but unlike other coalitions in the past where we built the coalitions,
01:51:47.340
and basically all it was was a bunch of flags behind the president so he could say,
01:51:51.840
we got a coalition of nations, and they didn't really do anything.
01:51:57.520
He's building the coalition, and then ours is the flag behind them as well,
01:52:02.900
and we're not really doing anything other than the second point that I brought up earlier today is our president keeps his own counsel.
01:52:14.600
You know, he hears counsel from others, but he keeps his own counsel.
01:52:19.420
Like Babe Ruth used to do, he'll go, you know, to home plate, and as the picture is winding up, he'll point and say, it's going there.
01:52:30.160
Every other president that I've seen except for Ronald Reagan in the Soviet Union battle has always been counseled to do X, Y, or Z,
01:52:45.140
and it was just another line from the State Department that just got us into all of these endless wars.
01:52:52.120
This guy, and it was evidenced yesterday by the phone call that he made where he just got up from the table with all these world leaders and was like,
01:52:59.880
I've got to call Vlad, and he went in the other room and called Vlad.
01:53:02.940
Nobody whispered into his ear, hey, you have to call Vladimir Putin.
01:53:06.300
He did it, and he didn't ask for anybody's permission.
01:53:10.140
This is a president that is actually a leader in America, a leader in every room, and America is leading again.
01:53:19.940
And don't tell me that we don't have respect of the world.
01:53:26.300
You can get respect because you have the biggest stick, which we do, and I think that was, in some ways, the first term of Donald Trump.
01:53:36.360
But the second term, he is much more focused, and he is using that stick,
01:53:43.480
but he is also bringing them to the table as a leader because they're seeing he can do things that nobody else has been able to do.
01:53:52.400
The other thing I wanted to talk to you about today was this piece that I heard right before I went on the air today.
01:54:00.100
Donald Trump called in to Fox and Friends, and he said something really interesting.
01:54:12.440
We're losing Russian and Ukrainian, mostly soldiers.
01:54:16.260
Some people, as missiles, hit wrong spots or get lobbed into cities like Kiev and towns.
01:54:22.620
But, you know, if I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that's a pretty—
01:54:35.380
But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.
01:54:41.880
So there's a couple of notes, and I'd like to hear, Stu, your thoughts, and Jason Buttrill is with us, our head researcher.
01:54:47.700
I'd like to hear your thoughts, but the couple of things that came to mind was, one, again, and I've made this point over and over again,
01:55:00.580
He cares about the lives that are being lost in war.
01:55:03.740
I talked to George W. Bush during the Afghanistan war and the Iraq war, and I can tell you firsthand, think what you want about the war, think about whatever you want about him.
01:55:16.700
But the one thing I do know about George W. Bush is he cared about every soldier that was fighting.
01:55:26.160
He knew the names of everybody that was wounded the night before.
01:55:30.400
That's the first thing he would do is he would get the names of the dead and the wounded from the day before,
01:55:36.240
and he started his day by making phone calls to parents, and he carried that with him.
01:55:48.680
Donald Trump, we're not involved in this, but Donald Trump deeply cares.
01:55:53.620
That's why he's so focused on stopping these skirmishes and these wars is because he deeply cares about human life,
01:56:04.680
The second thing is his use of self-deprecation.
01:56:09.520
He, I think, actually is thinking about heaven.
01:56:13.440
I think he has this new understanding of God, and he's coming to the end of his road, probably with him.
01:56:23.160
But, you know, he is at that age where you think about those things,
01:56:27.620
and notice he's not thinking necessarily about his legacy.
01:56:31.920
I do believe he's being self-deprecating and humorous here, but he does care about that.
01:56:37.460
That, I think, is the legacy that is becoming more and more important to him.
01:56:44.100
Jason, you brought this clip up to me when it was playing.
01:56:49.340
We were both listening to it, and he was like, wow, listen to that.
01:56:54.740
I feel like there's, I don't think, I don't think he's expecting anything,
01:56:59.840
any help as far as his legacy is concerned here.
01:57:03.040
I mean, I think he absolutely just, I think he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize
01:57:09.800
I think that if he gets this done, it's a shoo-in.
01:57:17.640
I mean, Obama was granted it just on basically just good thoughts.
01:57:22.780
But this was literally something that everybody else at the table yesterday could not have done.
01:57:31.440
Vladimir Putin would not speak to them because of everything they've been doing.
01:57:35.120
He was able to, at the end of the meeting, just say, yeah, I'm just going to call him.
01:57:39.320
If they called Vladimir Putin, he would hang up or not even pick up.
01:57:47.400
And when I heard him talk about, you know, I want to save the lives.
01:57:52.700
He's always bringing up, you know, he even did yesterday, you know, the assassination attempt.
01:58:01.260
We know that the lives are in the back of his mind.
01:58:03.760
He also made a comment yesterday about how some people were saying, well, you know, well, we'll get the two of them, you know, Zelensky and Putin together, you know, maybe in a couple months.
01:58:12.420
And he said a couple of months, that's measured in not days, but lives.
01:58:19.620
He said it's, he didn't say that directly, but he said that's like 40,000 lives.
01:58:23.740
He's thinking about the lives lost on this, which is something that we're not even really used to hearing, you know, from some of these leaders.
01:58:34.520
It doesn't even really sound like he's, you know, looking at that or thinking about that.
01:58:38.560
So, I mean, it's just amazing to what we are living through history right now.
01:58:43.580
And if it goes the way I hope it's going to go, I mean, I'm just glad that I was here to watch it.
01:58:54.660
I think it's the most likable version of Trump where he's just like, yeah, I mean, I'm on the bottom of the totem pole.
01:59:02.500
He's so engaging that way, and I think he should do that more when it's possible, just because I think it's super likable and funny.
01:59:12.740
I mean, as you've said many times, Glenn, he's just a really funny guy.
01:59:15.900
He knows how to do this, and I think when he leans into that, it's really successful.
01:59:20.840
The other part I just mentioned is that, you know, there's a lot of guesses about his motivation on this stuff, right?
01:59:27.540
Like, the left is always guessing that he just wants to be friends with Vladimir Putin or he wants to be a dictator.
01:59:33.320
You know, some people who are just skeptical of Trump are saying, well, he knows how good this will look for him, and he's doing it for politics and everything else.
01:59:41.600
I think you guys are both right and hit on this.
01:59:49.480
It's one of the things he's been consistent on since the 80s, right?
01:59:54.200
He really does want to end this war, and, like, there's not a super direct line to American advantage or Donald Trump advantage for getting this done, right?
02:00:05.660
It's more of something he actually just really believes in, and I think that's laudable.
02:00:11.700
And, you know, it's funny because, you know, I think part of it is legacy, right?
02:00:17.760
You mentioned, you know, the shooting, like him getting shot on stage.
02:00:24.180
Tends to change a man when you're about to go on the ninth hole and there's a gunman in the bushes.
02:00:29.400
Tends to change a man when someone from Georgia was arrested for saying, quote,
02:00:33.860
so there's only one way to make America great, and that's putting a bullet in between Trump's eyes.
02:00:40.460
I'm going to put a 7.62 bullet inside his forehead.
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I'm going to watch him bleed out and watch him die.
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Another U.S. attorney announced arrest of a New York woman who traveled to D.C. and threatened to kill Trump.
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So, like, when you are in a moment where you're – this is happening to you constantly,
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where people are trying to murder you on a daily or weekly basis,
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you're damn right you're going to be thinking about these things.
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He has to be thinking about these things, and I do – I find it pretty – I don't agree with every Trump policy,
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but I find it really hard to understand the people who just come at this and look at it as, like,
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well, his motivations for these things are bad.
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So, you – I mean – but, I mean, when people say he's Hitler, I mean, you have to go to – he can't have any good motivations.
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You can't assign anything good to Hitler, and you have every right to want to kill him and watch him bleed out in the streets
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That is the problem, and the left knows exactly what they're doing.
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And, you know, it's interesting to me that neither of you brought up low man on the totem pole
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because I think the frog and maybe the killer whale is a little lower on the totem pole than he is.
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He might be ahead of the bear, which is a symbol of protection.
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You know, and the – you know, either the raven or the thunderbird at the top.
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You know, that's – the thunderbird is the sky and the power, and I don't think he – you know, he's definitely under that.
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But might be above the – might be above the bear, might be below the bear.
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But definitely, definitely the frog and the killer whale on the bottom.
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Theologically speaking, Glenn, how tall is the heaven totem pole?
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Well, I don't think that – I'm not sure that – I'm not sure heaven is even involved with the totem pole.
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Even after your very detailed analysis of it just moments ago?
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I'm not really sure that heaven, seeing that it's a completely different system, you know.
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It does seem to be a different system completely.
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It's – you know, I guess it's kind of like – maybe it's like a Catholic Native American thing.
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They have the statues of, you know, hey, Mary's over here and St. Joseph is over here.
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I don't think it's as powerful as the Catholic thing, you know.
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And you speak as a man who's received a doctorate from a religious university.
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But anyway, I found it – I find so much to be learned just from yesterday.
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And tomorrow I want to share with you – but I just needed the time and didn't have the time today.
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I want to really share with you what America First really is because it was on full display yesterday.
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And, you know, Melanie Phillips was with us just a second ago, and she was like, you know, and that's isolationism.
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First, let me tell you about the Berna launcher.
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I'm carrying my Berna launcher with me all the time because it gives me something that I know I will pull.
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You know, if I'm in the – if I'm in a, you know, if I'm in a Waffle House and people are starting to fight over pancakes, I'm not going to pull my gun.
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But if people are in a Waffle House and they're fighting over pancakes and syrup and they're throwing things and people are getting hurt, I will pull out my Berna launcher.
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And I'll hit them gleefully with tear gas, okay?
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And then just – can somebody call the police?
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They'll get there in 45, you know, 45 minutes sooner if you live in a red state.
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You're not going to jail because you didn't kill anybody.
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But you did stop the Waffle House, you know, nightmare from happening.
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My daughter, I told her, I said, daddy's cutting you off unless you have this in your purse and with you all the time because daddy needs to know you're safe.
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And so, you know, we worked with it and trained with her and she's coming up here in a couple of weeks to train again with the Berna launcher.
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It's really, really easy, but it is something that you can use for self-defense that doesn't put you in jail, depending on where you are, because you killed somebody.
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It doesn't force you to put yourself in that situation where you have to choose life or death, theirs or yours.
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You get a good percentage off right now at Berna dot com or you can try before you buy at Sportsman's Warehouse.
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Just find a location near you by going to Berna, B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Glenn.
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Here's Hollywood star Chris Pratt with Bill Maher.
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And so I don't know what to believe because it's not like I sit with Bobby and I go, so, hey, let's talk about this.
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Let's talk about it's like we're just playing cards or playing mafia or having fun or having dinner.
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I'm not going to pick his brain to find out exactly which of those things are true.
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And I hope there's certain things that he oversees that seem to be supported in a bipartisan way, like getting terrible, toxic stuff out of our kids' food.
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And so, like, just if you just do that, that's amazing.
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I'd hate to be so mired in hatred for the president that any success from his administration is something I'd be having an allergic reaction to.
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To be like, oh, well, if they do it, I don't want it to happen.
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I'll feed my I'll put Clorox in my children's cereal myself.
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Or, you know, I'd say, come on, have some, be reasonable.
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There's certain things that would be a good thing to have.
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I wish every Hollywood A-lister would be like Chris Pratt.