Trump's Tariffs EXPLAINED: Why He Deserves Benefit of the Doubt | Guest: Frank McCourt | 2⧸3⧸25
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We are in a tough, tough battle, and we have a tough negotiator. Glenn Beck explains how to stand your ground when times get tough and embrace the fire. He also talks about the impact of the Trump administration's tariffs on the economy and how to deal with them.
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And just like if you've ever been in the room when somebody's really negotiating hard and you're like,
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You trust the lead negotiator to know what he's doing.
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So we're going to talk about the economy, the tariffs.
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And by the way, Elon Musk came out over the weekend and said,
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we're cutting $4 billion a day, every day in the next year.
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And I think everybody's very well aware of that ticking clock.
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There is a freight train that is barreling down the tracks, and we are standing right in its path.
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And we're debating whether the track should be made of steel or recycled materials.
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I don't think that's what we should be talking about.
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You, however, because you are paying attention, you can get off the tracks and warn others as well to the game that's being played now at a global level.
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It's honestly about the U.S. and the end of the structure that was set up post-World War II.
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Now, the left and economic experts will now tell you, you can't do that.
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They've been dismantling the economic structure of post-World War II.
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Except they want the great reset to go to a bigger global system.
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It needs to be America first, just as Canada, the EU, Mexico, and the rest should do the same for their countries.
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The United States, and quite honestly, the entire Western world, and I think the Eastern world as well, is at the precipice of an economic, political, and societal reckoning unlike anything the world has faced since maybe the Great Depression.
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And in some ways, it's worse, because this time, it's not just about economics.
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It's about trust in our institutions, trust in our leaders, and even trust in one another.
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And that's what makes this moment so dangerous.
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President Trump is walking into a storm, perhaps running headfirst right into it, with a task that borders on the impossible.
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He has to be right almost every time, every policy, every decision, every negotiation.
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It has to be in the right order, the right timing, and the right execution.
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Anyway, it's either get this plane up or crash.
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Now, imagine trying to defuse a bomb with shaky hands after somebody else set the timer and booby-trapped all of the wiring.
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However, for anyone who's beginning to shrink because of the shrieks of Justin Trudeau and make you question what Trump is doing with tariffs,
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look who came to the negotiating table this weekend.
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I thought they were going to fight to the bitter end.
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They're returning the control of the Panama Canal to us.
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So for the first time, America, you need to understand, first time since Ronald Reagan, at least, that we've had a president who knows what the truth is and knows how to get it.
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Just as Reagan said, that's an evil empire of communism, our number one enemy.
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Trump is declaring globalism our number one enemy and returning jobs and manufacturing back to America.
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You see, we have to grow our way out of this debt.
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The interest on our debt alone is $1 trillion a year.
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It's going to surpass what we spend on Social Security.
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And once that happens, the math doesn't work and it collapses under its own weight.
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And that will happen because almost all of the debt accrued under Biden were written as short-term loans.
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A lot of it comes back up to be re-loaned and re-mortgaged this next 18 months.
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Now, because Biden was such a good negotiator, we're going to have to negotiate under higher interest rates.
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Just this one fact, if not dealt with, quickly will kill us.
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The Federal Reserve, our so-called economic firefighter, is out of water.
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In fact, I think they've been an arsonist for a long time.
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Quantitative easing, the magic trick that they told us would work for over a decade, is no longer even an option.
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The Fed printed $8 trillion in the last 15 years.
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Did we get new companies, new manufacturing, new jobs everywhere?
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No, we got asset bubbles, distorted markets, and the illusion of prosperity for us,
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as the uber-rich and large corporations, along with the banks, just got much, much, much richer.
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And just when we thought it couldn't get more complicated, here comes artificial intelligence and artificial superintelligence,
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reshaping the entire world, what will feel like overnight.
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See, everything that we've ever talked about that ended with somebody, usually a president, saying,
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and at that point, there will be no good options, we're here.
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And the economy isn't, it's not a machine you can just reboot.
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It's more like an ecosystem, and we've been poisoning it now for decades.
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How do you pull a nation back from the brink when it's addicted to easy money and cheap credit and government handouts?
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We screwed ourselves, and we've been screwed by every other nation, and including ourselves, mainly ourselves.
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Yes, if the world were a neighborhood, we'd be the one that had the biggest house, the nicest cars.
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But what the neighbors now know is that everything in our house, including our house, was purchased on loan,
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and our income can no longer service just the interest on the loan.
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Everybody knows, it seems, except perhaps the family inside of the house with the fancy gates.
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This is why the $1 trillion cuts, $4 billion a day that Elon Musk announced over the weekend, is a really big deal.
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Because we can't afford to be the world's babysitter or policeman anymore.
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We can't keep writing blank checks to foreign countries while our own people are in real danger.
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We need to look at our government and say, it's far too big.
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That system where America props up the global economy, defends half the planet, underwrites everybody else's welfare state, it's over.
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Why are we still living under trade laws that were written right after World War II to help rebuild the European and German car companies?
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This thing has been on life support for decades, and it's been dead for at least two decades, maybe three.
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We just haven't had the funeral yet, and we need to.
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Countries like Panama are already beginning at the negotiating table.
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We still hold sway in that neighborhood, even though everybody knows we're broke.
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It's our security team that protects the entire neighborhood.
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Money they don't have, or at least haven't been willing to spend.
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Yeah, you're going to have to pay for some of it because we're done.
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And the world is feeling the shift, and the ones who are really against it were the ones that were designing a new global community, not a local community.
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The tariffs, the economic pressure, it's not just about money.
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For the first time in generations, we're forcing other nations to stand on their own two feet.
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We're telling them, look, we have standards, we have a border, and you cannot allow China to come in, make all that fentanyl right under your nose, and then ship it across our border with drug cartels.
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And if you can't control them, we're going to push you first, 25% tariff.
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And if you can't control them, then we're going to take care of those drug cartels ourself because they're killing people here in America.
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We've all built our economies on the illusion that we could have it all without paying the price.
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BRICS is building an alternative to the U.S. dollar as a global reserve currency, which is not a conspiracy theory.
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China, Russia, India, Brazil, South Africa, they're betting against us.
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And Canada is beginning to say they'll join Panama and others to stand against us too.
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So, fine, bet on America's best days are behind us.
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They're hedging their future against the collapse of the dollar.
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If they're right, if the dollar loses its status as the world reserve currency, then our standard of living will collapse almost overnight.
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But it's going to anyway if we don't act boldly now.
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We've been living in a fantasy too long, believing economic magic tricks can print wealth out of thin air, or we could borrow it forever without any consequence.
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And we're not the only ones that broke all those rules.
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We're just the first now under Donald Trump to say, okay, we're out of that game.
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Because if everything is sacred, then nothing is sacred.
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We've treated government spending like an all-you-can-eat buffet, but the bill is now due.
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And in fact, every item we ate had a very high price.
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Even if you eliminated every dollar of fraud, waste, and abuse, it wouldn't fix the problem.
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Our unwillingness to do it ourselves and force others to do it themselves.
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Every generation before us has faced hard times.
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The history books are just wondering, which direction am I going to write this in?
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We face the truth now while we still have some options.
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We can tighten our belts, make the cuts, rebuild our economy on solid ground.
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You know, I worry about these tariffs as well, but Donald Trump is not a lawyer.
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I mean, all of our presidents usually come from law.
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He's a businessman, so he knows how the economy works.
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And over the last eight years, he has earned at least my trust and respect.
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I worry about the effects of tariffs, but I think I see what he's doing and why he's doing it.
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And it may be the last chance we have if we do not let others see us blink.
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The world as we've known it since World War II is over, and that's not a bad thing.
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It's an opportunity to rebuild something better, stronger, something real.
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The question is, are we brave enough to face it, or will we believe the truth when we hear it?
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Yeah, the Doge stuff is really encouraging, I think.
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I don't know that everyone in America loves it as much as I do and you do.
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I can't wait to hear what you have to say about it.
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It feels like, I was talking to a friend this weekend, and he said that this is the first time in a while that it seems like the conservative movement actually cares about shrinking government.
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Like, we went through a period there where, like, we didn't even talk about it anymore.
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And it does seem like this is a real effort, maybe the most real effort we've seen for a very long time.
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And it's not, it's not Reagan, where Reagan was still a guy, I mean, he didn't believe in big government, but the government did grow under him.
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It largely because of defense, and that was a big part of him.
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Uh, but, uh, it, uh, I think they're actually serious about cutting it and cutting the regulations and spending and everything else.
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I know, I know, that's hard to believe it, but I do know a thing or two about building a financial hedge against insanity.
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Because I live in a country that had Democrats run the place almost my entire life, and I've seen several times what they do when they have power.
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Now, thank God, at the moment, they don't, but that doesn't mean, you know, we should be lying down on, uh, the job of protecting what I've built, what you've built.
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Donald Trump just got off the phone with Justin Trudeau.
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Apparently, uh, uh, they're going to talk again at three this afternoon, but, uh, he's not, he's not going, he's not going light on good Justin, uh, which I'm very happy about, uh, Canada.
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I mean, you're, I'm sorry when we're there too.
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I don't want to feel like we're pointing out Canada going, you guys suck.
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We just woke up and changed leadership and we're, we are going in a different direction because we've learned the same things, you know, okay, you know it.
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Yeah, the one, the one, I mean, there's, I have several issues with some of these policies, but one that I do really is a little bothersome to me is Trudeau was so unpopular in Canada and so on the way out.
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And now like, there's this like nationalist Canadian thing going on where they're booing the national anthem.
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Wait a minute, he's, Trudeau's becoming a nationalist?
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It's hilarious, but like, he's now getting the benefit, the benefits of the support of people who are just rallying around him mindlessly, whether the policy is right or not.
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Uh, that, I just don't like good things happening to Justin Trudeau.
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So that is, I don't know if that was part, but again.
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Uh, but we will see, you know, obviously where this thing lands economically is much more important than that.
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We have a president that's not actually trying to destroy us.
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I mean, whether you like this policy or not, and when it comes to tariffs, you know that the motivation behind it is to make the country better.
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And I don't know that that's always the motivation behind these policies when we've seen previous presidents go after them.
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Obviously, a lot of Democrats have gone after similar policies, and I think a lot of times their motivations have been much, much worse.
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So at least we've got good motivations behind this.
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I mean, I think Trump is looking at this and saying he thinks it's going to work long term.
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He thinks he's, I think most clearly, you pointed this out, Glenn, with Panama, with Colombia, most clearly he believes they're going to back down from this eventually and give us concessions.
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And I think that's probably the most likely outcome.
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Uh, it seems to be what's happening with Panama.
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Yeah, it seems to be, it definitely happened with Colombia.
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Like, that's, it does seem to be, we are the big boys on the block.
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And Donald Trump is not only, uh, familiar with that fact, but also comfortable with it, unlike other presidents.
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He's comfortable with us being the big boys on the block.
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He's comfortable with us being the world power.
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And see this, I mean, listen to what Justin Trudeau said.
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Let's go to, uh, let's go to, uh, cut three, please.
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It might mean checking the labels at the supermarket and picking Canadian-made products.
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It might mean opting for Canadian rye over Kentucky bourbon or foregoing Florida orange juice altogether.
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It might mean changing your summer vacation plans to stay here in Canada and explore the
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many national and provincial parks, historical sites, and tourist destinations our great country
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He's using this to turn around his own political fortunes, which is infuriating.
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Like, he's got nothing to, he doesn't care at all about any of this other stuff.
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I think Canadians are a little perplexed as to why our closest friends and neighbors are
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choosing to target us, um, instead of so many other, uh, challenging parts of the world.
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I don't think there's a lot of Americans who wake up in the morning saying, oh, damn Canada.
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Why, why, why was your, uh, uh, your number two in command that just quit?
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Why was she targeting people here for, you know, giving to a freedom movement in Canada?
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I mean, it's not like you've been our best friend, Justin.
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I love Canadians, uh, Canadians, and I love Canada.
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Um, and Canada should love Canada and you should be concerned about, you know, what the state
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of your country is in, you know, look at your immigration problems, look at what's happening
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That's what started all of this is the fentanyl that is coming across our borders, both North
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And, you know, a great way to stop it is to make sure you stop it at your borders from
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I like, you know, Trump always says like tariffs are his favorite word.
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And, and, but in a way, I don't think that's exactly what he means, right?
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Like tariffs are good in, to the extent that they get something else done.
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The calculation, however, is will the pain that is applied to both sides as Trump has
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And it's, he, it's important to be fair to him.
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A lot of people are like, oh, he's, he's not saying this.
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There's going to be pain on us, but the calculation is the pain on us is going to be less than
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And then they, he will get what he wants outside of the tariffs.
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And you know, these, I mean, you could call it a trade war or not.
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The bottom line is when we escalate, then they escalate, then we escalate, then they escalate.
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It's, you could call it, you could say it's not a trade war, but kind of is.
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If you feel more comfortable with those terms, but the bottom line is we believe we're going
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And at the end of the day, we get concessions that improve the country.
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The proof's going to be in the pudding on that.
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As you point out, it's worked kind of with Panama so far.
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It's, it's going to work with some of these countries.
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You know, it's going to be more difficult with a country like China.
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NAFTA, I think what we saw in his first term was a renegotiation of NAFTA into what was
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Because, you know, you're not allowed to put new tariffs on either one of these countries
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I mean, how can we be upset with a president who wants something better for the country?
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It's just a question as to whether it works or not.
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And the guy, you know, the Dallas Mavericks traded Luka Doncic this weekend.
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His, the GM came out and said, you'll have to judge me as to how it turns out.
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But like, that's exactly what will happen, right?
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If, if this works and he gets something out of it, people will probably be okay with it,
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Generally speaking, though, that the American people only have so much tolerance for that.
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And, and Donald Trump has a, a finely tuned eye for that type of thing.
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And I'm sure he's going to walk that line carefully.
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And like I said, he's not trying to destroy America.
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And I know that's a new concept to the American people.
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It's kind of like, you know, I'm sure it's new to the Canadians as well.
00:33:08.840
Here's Donald Trump talking about tariffs on Europe.
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Well, you're asking me a question because I'm sure you didn't hear.
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Am I going to impose tariffs on the European Union?
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Do you want the truthful answer or should I give you a political answer?
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I mean, it, various things from various countries, right?
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He wants, uh, I mean, the big things, he wants an end to the World War II order where we are protecting Mercedes-Benz, allowing Mercedes-Benz to come in here and have all kinds of access to our market.
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Because we wanted to make sure that the German companies could recover and all of the car companies could recover.
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You know, the world's just not a great place without another Citroen.
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Uh, so, you know, that's what, that's what that is for.
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The other thing is that absolutely has to change.
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Like exist with the terms of the agreement in place.
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We're doing a lot more than everybody else anyway.
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We're the ones basically running this organization.
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The least you can do is get to that, whatever that percentage is.
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And, and it, you know, and that's fine if you don't, if you don't want to do that, that's fine.
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And we're not going to, you know, protect you all the time.
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You know, Winston Churchill had to beg the United States to come in because the Americans don't want to be involved in everybody else's business.
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We don't, our government, our state department seems to want to, the military industrial complex wants to, but the American people don't.
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We don't think that's a good idea for you, but you know, in time you'll learn to defend yourself and then you'll probably get pissed off at the French and start bombing them.
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What do you think Justin Trudeau is going to say if we said, oh, well, you don't want to protect your borders.
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Well, I think we're done helping your military.
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It's hopefully I'll never get to that, but we win in the end.
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So, I mean, I'm not surprised they're retaliating with the 25% tariffs of their own that obviously will, you know, there are a lot.
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We do send a lot of products to Canada as well.
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We are the second largest exporter in the world.
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But so we do send products to a lot of these countries and it will burn those companies and it will hurt at times.
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If if these things even get into play and we're not even in place yet.
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And would it be surprising at all if there was a delay of a month while they negotiate?
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And let me ask you, he was just on the phone with Justin Trudeau just a few minutes ago.
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Hello, America. It's Monday. I'm going to tell you about the squabble between Elon Musk and USAID.
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What's that all about? Is it about protecting cuts? Is it about protecting national security?
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Because Elon Musk isn't qualified to look at our books. It's not about any of those things.
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It is about black ops. I'll tell you about that and show you what's about to come.
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In about 30 minutes, I'm going to talk to you about a program called Timber Sycamore.
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You may not have ever even heard of that. We have because we've discussed it on past shows.
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Anyway, it all relates, goes right back to the Doge USAID strife, which we get into next.
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All right, let me tell you about what happened this weekend with Doge.
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This is something that was tucked beneath the political squabbles and the Grammy night celebrity nonsense.
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It is a story far more important than any of our daily distractions, and it makes me oh so very happy.
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This story pulls the curtain back on who really holds the reins of power in our country.
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I want to connect a few dots with you here in the next 40 minutes or so.
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We're going to talk about Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency.
00:48:54.880
Doge and the Trump team are battling it out with USAID.
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What's so top secret that you can't let him see it?
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Control over the flow of information, over government secrecy, and yes, control over your tax dollars.
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In case you didn't know, USAID, the U.S. Agency for the International Development, had its director of security, Jonathan Voorhees, and his deputy, Brian McGill, placed on administrative leave.
00:49:46.560
Because they refused to grant access to security systems and systems containing sensitive personnel files, security clearance information, even classified materials to employees of Doge.
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When Voorhees and McGill said, no, you're not allowed to see any of this, that's when the Doge team threatened to call in the U.S. Marshals.
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The U.S. Marshals over a bureaucratic disagreement?
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Remember, this is about something much, much bigger.
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It's about who controls the machinery of the government when it comes to foreign influence, covert operations, and the shadow games our government is playing overseas.
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They're the folks who help develop countries, build schools, and fight diseases, and support democracy.
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First of all, I don't want to be in that business as a government.
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But if you've been paying attention, history will tell you something else.
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It's well known that USAID has been much more than an aid operation since its inception in 1961.
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By the way, can you tell me anything that happened with the government and overseas things that was good that happened in the 50s and 60s?
00:51:17.440
Maybe the Peace Corps, maybe the Peace Corps, but I doubt it.
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And their money just comes in and it just, oh, no, this is aid.
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In the Cold War, USAID funded cultural organizations and student groups and agricultural projects.
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And they have been accused of everything from influencing elections in foreign countries to helping overthrow governments that didn't align with our interests.
00:52:07.720
No, we have a big problem with other countries influencing our elections.
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Do you remember the color revolutions in Europe?
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I'm not saying that every employee at USAID is a covert operative.
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Most, I'm sure, are good, decent people trying to do their jobs.
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Part humanitarian, part shadowy extension of U.S. foreign policy through the CIA.
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And that's really the part that I think is interesting here.
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Because every nation knows that this is a CIA front.
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It has billions of dollars in black covert money flowing through it.
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We just don't know it because those with oversight can't see the records.
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Like a bunch of accountants trying to balance the budget.
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But those who are running black ops know that Doge has two agendas.
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Their mission is not only to cut the budget, but to break up the entrenched bureaucracies that have been running Washington like their own personal fiefdoms.
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And Doge is supposed to be one of the tools that is headed by Elon Musk to drain that swamp.
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Now, I personally like it for a couple of reasons.
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Elon Musk is one of the world's greatest minds.
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I mean, when he goes into his own companies, he sits with every employee for about five minutes and just says, what are you working on this week?
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And if they don't have something that, you know, he feels is like really moving the company forward, you're not necessary.
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He has a knack for cutting waste and making companies more efficient and also coming up with some really good products.
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And he's been on a very public mission to expose and challenge what he sees as government overreach, whether it's with Twitter or X or even the critiques of regulatory agencies.
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Now, he can come in and he can look at these things and go, wait a minute, this doesn't seem to be exactly, you know, what you're supposed to be doing.
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This isn't about posting memes and calling out the woke mind virus.
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This is about accessing the very heart of the government's covert machinery.
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That's what's happening with USAID because it's not about aid programs.
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It's all about the hidden influence that the U.S. experts, you know, flex all around the world, including perhaps inside the United States against our own people.
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And now for the first time in decades, somebody from the outside of traditional power structures are saying, huh, what is it you guys do here?
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The people who've been running that machine also don't like it.
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I want you to remember who was in charge of USAID.
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Now, Samantha Power, she's the wife of the Harvard professor, Obama advisor, and author of the really super important book called Nudge.
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How to get people to do what you want them to do without them knowing.
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So the wife of that guy, who I'm sure has nothing to do with nudging or doing anything like that, even though she was with the Obama administration forever, she doesn't know anything about that.
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This is why John Voorhees and Brian McGill push back.
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That's why they're risking their careers to say, no, you can't come in here because they weren't just protecting the files.
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They're protecting a system that is operated in the shadows for decades with little to no accountability to the American people.
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And here's where it gets even more fascinating.
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The employees at USAID and across the federal bureaucracy aren't just fighting to protect sensitive information.
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You know how Donald Trump is kind of like a human hand grenade?
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You know, I think you're kind of like a human hand grenade.
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Well, I mean, you're the greatest human hand grenade I've ever seen.
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You just kind of throw yourself into things and then a wall comes down.
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And as the dust is settling, everybody goes, wait a minute.
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Except this time, they're not just lobbing grenades in.
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Over the years, we've created this massive administrative state, which is a fourth branch of government that nobody votes for.
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You notice that the people on Capitol Hill, they're afraid of the intelligence agencies.
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They operate with a level of secrecy that would make our founding fathers roll in their graves.
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This administrative state has been the gatekeeper of information, deciding who gets to know what, both here, at home, and abroad.
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So when Trump and Musk come knocking, knocking, knocking at the door, trying to peek behind the curtain, the reaction is swift and fierce.
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Because if they succeed, they'll manage to pull USAID's operations and put it right under direct control of the State Department.
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Or even worse, in the public eye, they'll be held accountable for things.
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It will expose decades of covert actions, questionable alliances, the dark side of U.S. foreign policy that has been hidden under the guise of aid.
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Think about some of the crazy things we've done in the name of foreign aid.
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We've funneled money to warlords in Afghanistan.
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We gave money to the Taliban, money to Gaza to prop up Hamas.
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We've run guns to the Syrian group ISIS, propped up dictators in Latin America, even funded opposition groups in countries where we wanted regime change all under the banner of freedom and democracy.
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Again, this is why everybody hates the American government.
01:00:18.180
Her people see our influence as good and benevolent.
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So in exchange for our tax dollars, we've asked countries to change their laws, to accept abortion in places where the people are morally outraged.
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We we tell them that this is the enlightened way to go.
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We force them to open their markets to multinational corporations that sometimes are don't have their best interest at heart.
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And we conduct military operations on their soil.
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Most Americans have no idea because it's all wrapped up in the nice, shiny package of humanitarian assistance.
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What happens if Musk and Trump manage to pry open the lid to this operation?
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Well, for once, the bureaucrats lose control of one of their many hiding places.
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The intelligence community loses one of its more useful tools and the American people might finally get to see just how much of their hard earned money has been used not to build schools or feed the hungry, but to manipulate foreign governments and maintain our empire of influence.
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It is about the future, because if Musk and Trump can break through this wall, it sets a precedent.
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It says no part of the government is beyond scrutiny of our elected officials.
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And that terrifies people who've been running the show.
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Stories like these are not bureaucratic squabbles.
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This is the battle line right there that will decide who actually runs the country.
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We're going to see more on this, and the intelligence agencies are not going to like it.
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So one thing I would take away from this is don't take any news story at face value for a while.
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There are many hiding places, and those who receive and use dark money for black ops are going to fight back.
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Why does USAID have classified systems that other government officials can't access?
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Why is there so much resistance in an aid organization to transparency?
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And third, remember the people that are screaming the loudest about protecting democracy are often the ones most afraid of the people actually seeing how the sausage gets made.
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So this isn't about USAID, Doge, or even Trump and Musk.
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What does all this look like with the back and forth, with them kind of going after all of this?
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I mean, it looks like every James Bond movie, except Tulsi Gabbard is the one that is, you know, trying to expose it all.
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I mean, it's, they're, you know, this is an octopus, and it is going to fight back.
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I mean, if you watch the James Bond movies, the last six, with Daniel Craig, Spectre is what we're fighting.
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Watch the James Bond called, I think it's Spectre, and he infiltrates and hears their board meeting.
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It's this shadowy group of leaders all over the world who is like, yeah, we're using everything we have, and we about have control of the world through all the intelligence agencies.
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I would expect some explosions, maybe a car chase or two.
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All right, so we just told you about USAID and what's going on with Doge.
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Now let me tell you something you might have missed.
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FBI agents are starting to pack up their desks.
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He said that he's meeting with Trump and they hope to redraw the lines in the Middle East.
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I think Donald Trump is absolutely headed that way.
01:09:01.340
The Mexican president just talked to Donald Trump.
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She said, I talked to Donald Trump and we had a great conversation.
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And I'm sending 10,000 troops to the U.S.-Mexico border right now.
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He's going to talk about three o'clock this afternoon.
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Now, let me tell you about, I just told you about USAID and how that is a CIA front.
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And Donald Trump is going to do two things with Doge.
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He is going to cut all the bad guys, try to find them.
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He may not find all of them, but he's going to find a lot of them.
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Oh, did I mention the FBI people are clearing out their desk, getting ready for a mass fire?
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Anyway, he's going to clean out a lot of the mess and a lot of the black ops that are happening.
01:10:13.540
Now, the left in the deep state, they're a little freaked out.
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If they could have shredders at their disposal 24 hours a day, I don't think there would be a lick of paper left in any of these agencies.
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Consider some of the questions that have been swept under the rug all the way back to Obama.
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Consider the American lives that are lost overseas.
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Consider the regimes that have changed and the chaos that's spread all over the world in our names with our tax dollars.
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Now consider what Donald Trump's team has pledged to break and uncover.
01:10:59.100
So if you listen to some of the confirmation hearings in the Senate, you might hear a little sneak peek at what's to come.
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Tulsi Gabbard, on Friday, revealed for many Americans, they don't know about it, it's a clandestine Obama-era program that sought regime change in the Middle East and unloaded over a decade of violence and chaos.
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Senator, as someone who enlisted in the military specifically because of al-Qaeda's terrorist attack on 9-11 and committing myself and my life to doing what I could to defeat these terrorists,
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it was shocking and a betrayal to me and every person who was killed on 9-11, their families and my brothers and sisters in uniform.
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When, as a member of Congress, I learned about President Obama's dual programs that he had begun really to overthrow the regime of Syria
01:11:59.980
and being willing to, through the CIA's timber sycamore program that has now been made public,
01:12:08.220
of working with and arming and equipping al-Qaeda in an effort to overthrow that regime,
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starting yet another regime change war in the Middle East.
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DOD train and equip program, again, begun under President Obama,
01:12:23.700
is widely been known, looked at, and studied that ultimately resulted in over half a billion dollars being used
01:12:30.940
to train who they called moderate rebels but were actually fighters working with and aligned with al-Qaeda's affiliate on the ground in Syria.
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Most Americans have never heard about Obama's timber sycamore.
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It's possibly the largest gun running and training operation our little spy agencies have ever pulled off.
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How many people died in Syria as a result of this?
01:13:00.300
How many terrorists received weapons and training from our government?
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We know that many of those same terrorists now control the government of Syria right now,
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Why does every school kid know about Reagan and Iran-Contra, but not Obama and timber sycamore?
01:13:22.660
It is because it not only reveals terrorists receiving our training and weapons that we supplied,
01:13:31.480
but it also reveals American lives that have been lost.
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We still don't know the full details on what happened in Benghazi.
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Why is it that Hillary Clinton and Obama made sure of that?
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That wasn't part of some gun running operation to Syria, was it?
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Is this part of the piece of the fallout from Obama's timber sycamore?
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Why was there a State Department annex in such a dangerous place?
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Were they trying to keep Obama and Clinton's little secret hidden?
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Ambassador Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods, Glenn Doherty.
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I just want you to know, what's happening in Washington, D.C. right now is about cutting the budget.
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But it has a dual purpose in everything they're doing.
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They are cutting the heart out of the secret ops.
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They are exposing what our government is doing.
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By moving USAID over to the State Department, USAID can't have that.
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I mean, I don't think of the State Department as some place that's clean and has a good agenda.
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But apparently that's being cleaned up as well.
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What is it we are going to learn over the next few months?
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By the way, Sunday, yesterday, Musk wrote that career Treasury officials are breaking the law every hour of every day by approving payments that are fraudulent or do not match the funding laws passed by Congress.
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Apparently, the Treasury Secretary, the new one, has allowed the Department of Government Efficiency to gain access to the federal government's payment system.
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So USAID won't allow the DOGE officials any access to their aid programs.
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But the Treasury is like, yeah, open up the books.
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There's a couple of things that are going on that are actually, I think, pretty exciting.
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First of all, let's start with Mexico and Canada.
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Mexico has just announced that the tariffs have been delayed for a month because they are sending 10,000 boots to the border in Mexico to try to stop that.
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Claudia Steinbaum, who is the president of Mexico, she was very upset over the weekend about that slanderous claim that we have anything to do at all with drug cartels.
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Everybody who says anything about a drug cartel is shot in the head.
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You suddenly were one of them that just made it through, and what?
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I mean, it's not like you're in bed with them, I'm sure, you know, by choice.
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But, I mean, you've got that going against you.
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Some people are willing to do as little as needed to stay alive.
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I mean, the idea of, well, I am just shocked by that slanderous allegation.
01:21:48.360
But also, by the way, we should point out, I don't know if we said it on the air or off
01:21:51.600
the air, actually, but we were talking about these tariffs earlier, and I said, I don't
01:21:55.920
get worked up about this because who would be surprised if there wasn't a one month delay
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No, you know, tariffs are dangerous to both sides, and that's why they're a useful tool
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to get what you want, but also why everyone in reality would love to avoid them if it's
01:22:16.800
And I think, you know, a month here makes a lot of sense, a delay to see if Mexico steps
01:22:23.000
up and does the types of things that we want them to do.
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Why we fight those crocktails like nobody's business.
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I, just a southern belle, much further south than you thought.
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I think you gave me the vapors in case of the vapors with that.
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I mean, the markets have already recovered a good chunk of what they were.
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It's not like this is week one of his actual presidency.
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We went through four years of Donald Trump negotiating with foreign powers, saying things that seem
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shocking to everyone, and then it's turning out fine.
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So you got to kind of relax a little bit when it comes to this stuff, even if you don't like
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Well, when it comes to Mexico, I don't know, an end to the drug cartel thing.
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They're not having any influence here in the United States of America.
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I would think anybody who's like, well, we don't have a problem with a drug cartel.
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Well, if we did, we wouldn't mind you coming in and helping us clean that mess up.
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I can guarantee you everyone in the little small towns that are run by all the drug lords,
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they'd like the United States of America to come in and clean that up.
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I was doing something for Studios America tonight.
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And I was looking at, you know, I was like looking at quotes from conservatives because,
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Anyone who's opposed to tariffs loves China or whatever.
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And it's like, you know, again, it's just another part of the negotiation.
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But I was looking back at quotes from Rush Limbaugh on tariffs.
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And he actually talked about the first round of Trump tariffs.
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He said, Trump is simply trying to level the playing field by tightening the screws on them.
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Now, once that starts, once you oppose a tariff policy, which, of course, conservatives are on paper,
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are supposed to be universally opposed to because a tariff is nothing but a tax.
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And, of course, we oppose taxes simply on the movement of goods and services.
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And, like, so that's kind of a way, a lens to look at this.
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However, in certain areas, especially when they're already putting tariffs on our stuff,
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if you're trying to level the playing field, they can be useful, especially in a situation like this,
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like a negotiation where you're trying to get another outcome.
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And, you know, I have to tell you, if America had a 20% tariff on everything, but we had no income tax,
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And that's what he talked about in the campaign.
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There is a bill that has been proposed to repeal the income tax.
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I just had his dream that Glenn Beck was mixing cocktails in my house.
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He doesn't love them because he loves increasing costs
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as a negotiation tactic to win other things he wants.
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I hope he could just put a tariff on Justin Trudeau.
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the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenbeck program
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well hello america welcome to the glenbeck program the billionaire that wants to buy
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angeles dollar uh dodgers has uh placed a bid in to buy tiktok through a group that he started
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called project liberty um project liberty is uh i think a really good mission uh they are trying to
01:31:04.280
make sure that the data that everybody collects on us is owned by each of us rather than by the tech
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giants uh and he wants to start this with tiktok welcome to the program how are you frank i'm well
01:31:20.380
glenn how are you doing today i'm good i'm good so tell me first i guess we start with project liberty
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explain what you're trying to do with that yeah so we we have a um you know this awesome internet
01:31:35.560
technology which we all are dependent on now it's no longer a nice to have right it's a must have and
01:31:42.760
and it's evolved into a place that the that i believe and those of us involved in project liberty
01:31:49.640
believe is is is very bad for uh american citizens and for america at large and the reason i say that is
01:32:00.980
that um everything about us now is is captured um and you know scraped uh from us and and aggregated in
01:32:13.780
in you know centralized places and uh including china in one instance and all of this information about us
01:32:23.380
uh essentially it creates a a virtual version of us that it should be owned by each of us right
01:32:31.540
because when you when you have all this information and all this knowledge extracted and and uh and in
01:32:39.300
single centralized points knowing about us and can manipulate us and so on and so forth that's
01:32:45.380
that's antithetical to democratic principles right where individuals have agency and own and control
01:32:51.780
themselves so we started this project five years ago december of 19 to build an alternative uh tech
01:32:58.820
stack which would allow individuals to own themselves to own their personhood in the digital
01:33:04.820
age to own their data and to permission its use and to get value for it quite frankly because it
01:33:10.660
turns out it's extremely valuable so that's what project liberty is about the tick tock bid
01:33:14.660
is um is intended to to really uh accelerate the effort we've built the tech stack it's up and
01:33:23.060
operating there's a couple million people using it now but a couple million people is not an
01:33:27.620
alternative internet we need we need a couple hundred million people so i tell you i i have been
01:33:32.740
concerned about this and and really it was especially when you look at the power that is being
01:33:38.980
consolidated with just a few individuals and a few companies the only thing that we have uh is our own
01:33:46.980
information that's that's where our power and money comes from is from our information and they've just
01:33:52.500
taken it all from we've given it to them but it is absolutely time we take it back um is that even
01:33:59.300
possible frank to do that yeah yeah yeah absolutely possible and that's why i committed a half a billion
01:34:06.100
dollars to this project to actually build the technology to prove that it's possible and that's
01:34:11.620
up and running as i said we have a couple million people using it now and several apps built on it
01:34:16.580
then but we need much more than that you know i mean glenn you hit the nail on the head i mean look
01:34:21.460
if i was the postmaster general and i said to you and your listeners i have a i have a i have an idea
01:34:27.380
i have a deal for everyone you can send your mail from now on for free no no stamps you know you send
01:34:32.500
it for free you might say well okay what's what's the deal all right um well in exchange i'm going to
01:34:38.100
put a camera and listening device in every room of your house in your car in your workplace and i'm
01:34:43.780
going to surveil you 24 hours a day you'd say wait a second that's super creepy and and i say well but
01:34:49.620
it's for free no more stamps oh one other thing i have to tell you i'm going to open your mail i'm
01:34:54.820
going to read it and everything i learned you know not just where you shop or what food you like to eat
01:34:59.940
or this or that but your your thoughts including your most intimate ones your feelings including
01:35:07.300
your most intimate one they're now mine okay so you would say wait a second this is creepy and
01:35:12.340
very unfair oh one other thing i'm going to read your 14 year old daughter's diary when i learned
01:35:17.700
she's concerned about her weight i'm going to push stuff towards her to make her feel worse then i'm
01:35:22.820
going to push stuff towards her to have her buy things because i made her feel feel worse i'm going to
01:35:27.140
profit from that oh and while i'm at it i'm going to teach her show her how to cut herself hurt herself
01:35:32.420
harm her harm herself because i've made her feel so bad about herself so now you'd say wait a second
01:35:37.780
creepy unfair and downright harmful and that's the internet we have it's time to take back ownership
01:35:44.820
of ourselves in the digital age we're we've given up our citizenship we've given up our agency and
01:35:51.460
you know and it's just it just let's fix it this is just technology and we can fix it from the ground
01:35:59.620
up and that's that's what project liberty is all about and i'm gonna go ahead i have to tell you frank
01:36:05.060
that um i don't know why we don't care more about this i guess people just don't see the problem and as i
01:36:12.340
see it it is truly the loss of of the most important thing and that is free will we we're to a point to
01:36:21.220
where it knows us better than we know ourselves and we can so easily be manipulated because it knows us
01:36:28.660
better than we know ourselves uh and we won't we're we're entering a time where we won't know if we voted
01:36:36.020
for somebody because we actually felt that way or that was planted in us or we bought this product
01:36:42.020
because we were steered that direction i mean it is truly the loss of free will you again nail being
01:36:51.780
hit in the head we talk far far too much about the loss of free free speech and far too little about
01:36:57.300
the loss of free will this is highly manipulative technology the tick tock issue has brought this
01:37:05.860
to the fore it it's uh grave concerns about having the information on 170 million americans
01:37:14.740
uh in the hands of the chinese communist party and even graver concerns that the chinese communist
01:37:21.460
party would have the ability now to manipulate 170 million americans and and it's a little crazy
01:37:27.940
though mark of uh frank that we are sitting here we're only concerned because it's the chinese
01:37:33.540
we think if anybody else is doing it i guess it's fine if apple's doing it if google's doing it it's
01:37:38.180
okay this is this is exactly right this is why this this tick tock legislation i think is a is kind of
01:37:46.340
it's it's a so-called tip of the iceberg yes bring the whole the whole architecture the whole architecture
01:37:52.820
of how the internet works to the fore people like yourself and thank you for doing it are bringing these
01:37:59.700
issues forward so people understand and and believe me i under i i appreciate the difference of our
01:38:06.500
information going to to to beijing versus going to silicon valley yes but quite frankly i don't i
01:38:12.980
don't want my information in either place i want to own i want to own my information i want a permission
01:38:18.020
it's used and i want to benefit from it if it's going to make exactly right create a lot of a lot of
01:38:23.140
economic activity exactly right so frank so tell me about the bid that you put you've already placed a
01:38:28.420
bid on tick tock right yes um and uh how is this being received how does this i mean i haven't i
01:38:37.540
haven't tried to buy tick tock so i don't i don't have any idea how that even works um you know how's
01:38:44.020
it going i guess do you know if you're in the running yeah well definitely in the running uh we don't know
01:38:50.500
if if well let's take it let's take a step backward what's going on here right so so back in the spring of
01:38:57.860
last year legislation was passed a great piece of legislation passed by a strong bipartisan majority
01:39:05.300
in congress to um uh force by dance the parent company of u.s tick tock to either shut it down in
01:39:14.820
the u.s or sell the u.s assets the u.s platform and and uh so that was uh legislation that had a
01:39:26.660
uh gave bite dense 270 days to sort that out with one 90-day extension available to them so
01:39:34.900
uh we put in our our bid uh within that 270 days and i think we're the only ones to put in a
01:39:44.420
a certifiable bid a bid where we as a buyer can move forward and not only be not only have the
01:39:51.140
finances in place but meet most importantly the national security criteria which was a
01:39:58.980
disentanglement of the chinese technology from the u.s assets being sold because you already have
01:40:05.860
built the platform that's exactly right and had we not been building this platform we would not be a
01:40:11.620
bidder because we just coincidentally can solve for this national set of national security issues and and
01:40:18.740
so we saw tick tock as a wonderful opportunity that fell in our hand i fell in our laps to say
01:40:27.780
we'll buy tick tock solve the national security issues move the user base and the data over to
01:40:33.140
this clean made in america stack give people ownership and control of their data and we've we've solved
01:40:40.740
a bunch of issues because we've also spun up an alternative to the current internet so people would
01:40:47.700
have a choice you and i would have a choice do we go on the internet where we're surveilled 24 7 and
01:40:53.380
we give up everything about us for free or do we go on a different internet and we permission the use
01:40:59.300
of our data and we're in charge of ourselves we own ourselves and we get value to me i i believe
01:41:06.420
you know people will flock to this new internet because they'll have all the benefits that you
01:41:11.780
currently have uh ease of use and be able to order things and have them delivered to your house and
01:41:17.860
and be entertained and communicate with people but you'll be doing it from a position of power
01:41:23.220
and where the power will be in the individual's hands not in a centralized platform's hands this is by
01:41:29.940
the way when i wrote the book our biggest fight i used the american project as my framing device because
01:41:35.700
it's so ironic that 250 years ago we were doing the same thing which was taking rights from a single
01:41:42.260
centralized power a monarch and saying no no we're citizens born with these rights right it became
01:41:49.060
inalienable rights and we want to be citizens not subjects why in the world would we become allow
01:41:55.780
ourselves to lose our citizenship in the digital age just to you know get free apps it's nuts
01:42:01.220
well yeah i mean every word you say it gets me excited because i've been waiting for somebody
01:42:07.540
to do this but for some reason i think yeah but what's the other shoe that's going to fall why
01:42:12.660
i mean what are you facing what are the what are the giants that maybe you're facing that would stand
01:42:18.660
in the way of this well i think the incumbents are you know the ones who are benefiting from our data
01:42:26.660
and have you know built this you know soul-sucking data-sucking machinery uh are the ones that are
01:42:36.260
going to resist the change because they're profiting mightily and look i'm a capitalist my family's been
01:42:43.060
building infrastructure for 131 years i'm all for people making money and and uh you know i love i
01:42:49.460
i love the america that my my family helped build literally build uh but i i don't i don't like seeing
01:42:56.420
money be made at the expense of american citizens right where as you say we're losing our free will
01:43:01.780
and we're in in in our ability to get along with each other and we don't even have an information
01:43:06.740
ecosystem right now where we can tell fact from fiction right where we're we we just are in this
01:43:12.980
never never land where if you destroy trust and faith in your fellow you know american your your
01:43:21.380
your your your your fellow human being and then we've lost it all i mean america is built on a
01:43:27.620
belief in the the worth number one the worth and dignity of every human being and the fact that
01:43:33.540
they're born equal and the the ability of human beings being in a better position than centralized you
01:43:40.580
know government some monarchy or some centralized government to make decisions for us right that's
01:43:45.780
why we started self-governance right because that's it's the power of the individual that's where the
01:43:52.420
agency should be and for it to matter we have to respect it in other people that's the so-called social
01:43:58.260
contract and then and then give people power and we can govern ourselves and we're we're rapidly losing
01:44:05.220
that ability to to to self-govern and to have agency because of of how this technology works in a
01:44:13.300
highly centralized way i would have to believe that uh elon musk would understand this uh and be a supporter
01:44:21.780
and i would imagine donald trump would be a supporter do you have the connections are you working with the
01:44:27.540
administration on this yeah we have um kevin kevin o'leary uh called me you know he's the shark tank guy
01:44:35.940
and and uh and he said look i i talked to all the potential bidders you're the only one that really
01:44:42.020
has a solution to the to the technology and i want to join your bid and i said come on in this is
01:44:48.180
this is the people's bid for tiktok this is this is bigger than tiktok right it's changing how the internet
01:44:54.420
works and kevin kevin has a great relationship with with millions and millions of small businesses
01:44:59.860
in america because he's been doing shark tank now for 17 years and i said come on in we want small
01:45:04.740
businesses we want everybody involved in this and i i mentioned kevin because he's he's you know he's
01:45:11.460
been kind of hanging out at mar-a-lago and making sure the president the president knows exactly what
01:45:16.100
we're doing and i've talked to a number of people in his administration about what we're doing we
01:45:20.660
there's there's no secrets here glenn we want to be totally transparent where we believe this is
01:45:27.700
i called the book our biggest fight for a reason right we believe this is the issue of our day to
01:45:33.380
reclaim what's ours to reclaim our data it is our personhood when when your listeners hear the word
01:45:40.900
data it's kind of like who cares about data right it just is it's one of those terms that what does it
01:45:45.540
mean think of every time you hear the word data i want you and your listeners to think of personhood
01:45:53.060
your person yeah your virtual you it is you why would in the world we would we let anyone else own
01:46:00.340
us it just i can't emphasize this enough let's reclaim what's ours and then restore trust and
01:46:08.820
integrity in the internet and then let's go build a more powerful version with generative ai but i i'm
01:46:15.060
very concerned about taking a broken internet that exploits people and making it more powerful
01:46:22.100
until we fix the the core infrastructure once we fix the core infrastructure so the individuals benefit
01:46:28.100
then let's make it more powerful and better for people and let people benefit from the financially
01:46:33.460
as well i think we could have a a beautiful future without so much concern and anxiety and skepticism
01:46:40.660
about the technology if we fix the core infrastructure okay frank hold on for one minute i have
01:46:44.820
to just do a quick commercial i'm gonna come back i've got one more question for you um it's been
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over a year now since the war started over in israel but the humanitarian crisis in israel continues to
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this day there are so there are so many jews spiritual brothers and sisters of us christians who are
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feeling a deep need right now and feeling pretty alone thankfully the international fellowship of
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so frank is there anything the average person can do to help this along
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yeah absolutely i mean and by the way i just just heard your ad and and uh and it's interesting we
01:48:17.620
need more moral voices involved in this faith leaders and so forth i had the privilege of just
01:48:23.300
having an audience with uh with pope francis just eight days ago in in the vatican and the vatican is
01:48:30.180
very very interested in this project because it actually operationalizes what the pope has been
01:48:35.780
writing about and speaking about now for several years which is the harms of the current of current
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internet technology and social media and i think we can all agree i think we can all agree
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and so i think that shows me that this idea is resonating and and which is which is great to your
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question about i think we all need to get engaged in this because you know
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look i'll do what i can but but no no single person can can can can win this fight this is going to
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take a an army of people insisting on a better internet and i would say i would start by asking
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people to go to project liberty dot io or to uh the people's bid dot com and learn about what we're
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doing and there's plenty of ways there to be easy to engage and people will will be happy to to to
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respond to questions and engage you in the project in ways that you think you can be your listeners
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think they can be helpful we need you frank thank you so much i appreciate it we're going to be
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all right welcome to the program we are so glad that you are here well uh the administration has
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pushed the top fbi brass out of the bureau in the latest uh shake-up looks like cash patel is going to
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be the the bureau's next director which i am so excited about so excited it's gonna be big yeah it's a lot
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of chaos glenn i i feel like we need a return return to normalcy candidate in 2020 and i'm
01:51:52.340
going to say it right now joe biden wow i think he runs again in 28 and we get him back in there to
01:51:57.140
return us to normalcy i mean i think do you think i mean he won't be exactly young in 2028 he'll be
01:52:04.500
four years older which will make him 169 something like that i can't remember uh but anyway uh i mean
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kamala she still hasn't decided what she's gonna do i know she might run she might run she's just
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wondering if people are interested right now she might run you know who else is considering a run
01:52:24.500
who they say is you know it's possible think of this president betterman i don't think it would work
01:52:34.500
uh i know i will say i the fetterman regime if you if you will in that seat has been much better
01:52:42.500
than i would have thought it would have been um of course his voting record still sucks yeah but he
01:52:47.780
does that approach for the democrats would be smart i don't think he's the right person to execute it on
01:52:52.900
a national election basis you don't think no i don't think he's quite the guy i would i mean i could
01:52:58.580
see him negotiating with world leaders i'm sure that would go well i mean it's he's had a few
01:53:05.220
good comments on a few topics which is more than i expect from the average you know what's weird is
01:53:12.180
as he recovers from the brain damage he seems to become more and more conservative
01:53:19.220
could it have been i mean i'm just saying i'm not i i'm not saying that that's you know what causes
01:53:27.140
people to become more conservative but you're not not saying it but i'm not not saying it either
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yeah i don't think he would be the guy who do you think would be the guy who's the or gal of course
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uh guy or gal or any one of the other 94 genders that you can come up with wow you're limiting i'm
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limiting uh if you had to pick one who's the favorite right now to be the 2028 democratic nominee
01:53:53.540
who would it be jd vance really i think they might even go ah screw it just nominate him vance
01:54:02.020
i i it's interesting i i think i would probably say at this point josh shapiro if if if if the way
01:54:09.300
the election went down benefited anyone i think it was him it won't be it won't be it won't be because
01:54:14.900
he's i mean he's jewish well that's what that does seem to be a problem with that party um but also
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uh look at they just look at they just put in the dnc this weekend david hogg i mean that doesn't
01:54:30.820
see nothing they've learned zero nothing they have no idea what to do here but i mean if you think about
01:54:36.380
the way that election went down everyone said why would they pick tim walls of all people it's a
01:54:42.140
terrible choice they should have gone with josh shapiro and everyone was like well the problem
01:54:46.720
with that was the hamas wing of the party was not exactly excited about that pick but that is true
01:54:54.140
it is true that's exactly what happened i mean precisely what occurred it's amazing but i think
01:54:59.540
there is the possibility right um that they might look at this and say well we didn't go with him and
01:55:06.180
we lost and the fetterman sort of um instinct of the party thinking that fetterman might be a good
01:55:12.600
choice highlights the idea that maybe they can come to sensibility on a couple of bigger issues
01:55:18.800
and shapiro would probably be a lot better than israel than most people in the democratic party
01:55:22.420
these days maybe like they can latch on i mean i think the impression that we have of john fetterman
01:55:28.140
right now on the conservative side of the aisle is a bit dangerous because he is a liberal he is still
01:55:33.560
a democrat he is still voting 90 something percent with joe biden he he is prominently and out in an
01:55:40.840
outspoken way good on one or two things and that has it i can give you other examples of how that has
01:55:49.820
um persuaded republicans to completely change their mind in a matter of months uh you saw one going for
01:55:56.640
the hhs secretary role recently remember even donald trump himself was calling him a left-wing lunatic in
01:56:04.040
april we tend to do this with actors a lot you know they say one or two conservative ish things
01:56:13.020
and we're like we love you we're so starved for we are just i know we are just we are that pathetic
01:56:20.400
yeah that pathetic kid with glasses that has the tape around the side of the dance so no one's coming
01:56:26.740
nobody's coming over all of a sudden a girl sort of trips and says oh sorry and touches your shoulder
01:56:31.980
like oh my god she loves she loves me she's changed my life we go down that road often and i do worry
01:56:39.140
that i mean look i don't think that a lot of republicans are going to vote for josh shapiro but
01:56:43.360
like the the thing is can you get somebody in the middle who may have could like donald trump
01:56:47.980
who's going to go for that they're not going to go who's not going to go for it democrats the the
01:56:53.340
machine the dnc will never go for that i mean they have high they have had democrats who were
01:56:59.580
in comparison uh pro-israel before uh that's occurred so i mean it's not when well i mean
01:57:07.620
joe lieberman joe lieberman is 25 years ago he is an example 25 years ago but i mean even compare
01:57:16.000
like someone like hillary clinton to what they're rolling out there now kamala harris
01:57:23.460
hillary clinton looks like she you know she was from a republican think tank on israel compared to
01:57:29.980
to aoc and the and the batch of people they're churning out these days i mean in the middle of
01:57:35.820
all the hamas protests at college campuses hillary clinton went on the view and like explained to
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israel to them in actually a completely rational way like the right story about israel now i do
01:57:48.860
she does she really believe that my argument would be no she certainly doesn't believe the policies
01:57:53.320
that i believe but she's way better than what they're churning out these days that's they are
01:57:57.780
going i think she actually does believe that but she sold that one out as soon as it became unpopular
01:58:03.260
when she had power like when she had power she was going the opposite direction but i think you know
01:58:09.340
she's she was actually i was and we could bring that up i think we played it at the time it was
01:58:14.060
like huh who said that hillary clinton said that it's you know i do think that there is a
01:58:19.120
a small slice of rational thought uh in the democratic party that still sort of exists fetterman's the
01:58:27.200
most prominent example of it on that issue it's only that issue unfortunately um so that's a problem
01:58:33.780
uh but i they're not gonna do they won't you don't think you can't get through a primary without you
01:58:38.940
think unless no no way unless you uh unless you own that person and everybody knows we got kind of
01:58:47.980
like it'll be kind of like a thing of he's going to return us to normalcy no he's not he's he has no
01:58:56.200
control over his bowels let alone his opinions he's looking for digestive normalcy right he'll do
01:59:03.520
anything because he wants the power it has to be you know they'd have to have something on shapiro i
01:59:09.700
think they'd have to have something over him like you will do what we say it seems like they usually
01:59:15.780
do that does it does seem like that so i don't know but he'd be the only one i mean you think tim
01:59:21.060
walls is getting that gig no kamala no i don't think they look at kamala it's like oh she was great
01:59:27.160
and just got a raw deal i think they look at her as someone who could have won and didn't she's going
01:59:31.980
to be the governor ready she's going to be the governor of california 100 i think that is the
01:59:38.640
next step for her that's what she's gonna do oh and you deserve it california oh you deserve every
01:59:45.520
little bit of it you vote her in you deserve every bit we're like how can we do worse than gavin
01:59:52.680
newsom and it's like i well we could go with kamala we could consider karen bass for governor that's
01:59:57.840
one way of going you could try that out and see if she could burn the entire state down instead of
02:00:03.120
just her city i don't i don't know is lenin still alive can we get him it no he's really that whole
02:00:11.220
tomb in moscow is all right that's sad yeah do you think uh gavin newsom completely done after what
02:00:19.600
happened in california no i don't either i you know i've talked to other conservatives about this and
02:00:24.760
they're like oh finally he's toast and i think there's a good chance nope that's possible but i
02:00:29.200
put nothing i mean who's about to be the next mayor of new york city andrew cuomo yes andrew freaking
02:00:37.420
cuomo he's murdering their senior citizens and he's like put me in charge i'll nail this thing
02:00:43.500
it's incredible they're like yeah yeah he's winning the the primary polls by a lot of course he is
02:00:49.800
of course he is of course he is and that's what democrats do they they rehab these people and
02:00:54.720
they'll put them in another role i mean you could definitely i wouldn't i wouldn't put it past his
02:00:59.220
brother to go back on cnn now that he's so conservative yeah and he'd be the new conservative
02:01:05.280
yeah he'd be the new conservative voice he's the voice of common sense i can't tell if i would be i
02:01:11.320
mean i would be absolutely losing my mind on this show every day if these things happen if he becomes
02:01:15.780
mayor and you know chris cuomo i think he has a job but going to become mayor i think why do you say
02:01:21.800
yeah why do you say if he hasn't even announced his run yet but it's happening it's gonna it's
02:01:26.440
gonna happen i just you know i'm allowing for i'd put money down on that one don't you think though
02:01:31.140
there's he does have a lot of opposition in new york like among democrats who don't like him
02:01:35.980
and there's a chance that you know more scandals come out i definitely don't believe we know the
02:01:42.220
extent of his illegal activity that i promise you um my belief is that we do not know the full
02:01:48.480
extent of his illegal activity i my guess is what do you mean in killing old people well no we only
02:01:54.380
well we know some of that okay who knows how many other people he killed outside of the covid years
02:01:58.300
you know we don't know that for sure i mean you don't really think yeah no i definitely that's
02:02:03.940
seems crazy we can you imagine that he would ever do such a thing he seems like an upstanding
02:02:09.080
individual i mean it's really kind of offensive the question you have what is it you're saying
02:02:13.380
about cuomo like he's a mobster sending people to sleep with the fishes ah forget about it
02:02:22.080
with andrew cuomo the question you have to ask yourself if you did he commit a crime there's
02:02:28.380
only one question would it have benefited him in any way and then you know the answer every time
02:02:32.920
if the answer is yes then again then the answer is yes that's that's how you know if it would have
02:02:38.620
benefited him of course he committed the crime i would like a little chart on this because if the
02:02:43.860
answer is no it doesn't benefit him is it always no no there's more questions because he's still i
02:02:51.800
think he'd still commit crimes just for the pleasure right okay i think that's possible as well okay but
02:02:57.320
that's a perfect mayor for new york a perfect one they deserve every little bit of that that they get
02:03:04.720
especially after seeing this in albany and then choosing it anyway like you deserve everything
02:03:11.260
you get gavin newsom i mean could gavin newsom have had a more slimy rise to the top than he had
02:03:17.300
every single thing that's happened to california the people who voted for him at least in california
02:03:24.180
because we always get emails from people like help me i'm in california and i'm conservative we're
02:03:28.160
telling you move i would say get out as fast as possible i mean the call is coming from inside
02:03:34.200
the state california is too liberal for mark zuckerberg even zuckerberg is leaving i gotta tell
02:03:41.900
you i'm very concerned about hollywood moving here zuckerberg moving here i don't like it it might be
02:03:48.160
time for texas to wall off that whole area of texas just wall it off so a ball a wall in the
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southern border and the northern border well no no no i just say we wall off austin okay so inside
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so let them all land it's like it'll be like they can land west berlin situation you have to go in
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the middle of the country to land right you can land but there's no there's no gate on those walls
02:04:13.880
you have to take a plane to get out okay and they can airdrop supplies yeah absolutely we've seen that
02:04:19.940
happen but we're not going to but somebody could i've met maybe new york city and austin like great
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food uh it's got great things there's some great things there because liberalism is needed okay to
02:04:36.100
balance we'd be a very boring world if it was just conservatives all right we'd all be working
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uh that's all we'd do we'd just be like efficient members of society moving along to the right the
02:04:50.080
world's best interests right so it'd be terrible there'd be nobody to avoid when you approach the
02:04:54.860
stoplight you know what i mean as you're approaching the stoplight and you're seeing the guy and he's
02:04:59.100
coming to your car and you know he's going to ask that wouldn't be happening if we were all
02:05:02.840
conservative it sounds great well kind of but it's important it's important yeah they're good at the
02:05:09.460
arts you know they're good at entertaining there are good what do you say you're a clown to me yes
02:05:14.660
you're a clown to me uh but it's an important clown it's an important clown like i mean this is going
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to be sound dismissive to the arts but it's like if you're if you're me for dismissive if you're
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pursuing something with a maniacal focus yes that leads to you kind of standing up and reciting lines
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that someone else wrote you know maybe that's not the most productive activity so it should be
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assigned to the left no that's not to say there's not great conservatives doing that and i love movies
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right but like what is a movie to me it's a waste of time right like i watch it it's great i i a couple
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we want to waste time yes i agree so we could have you know 14 15 yeah and then they can digitally
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um because what donald trump is coming in to do is uh change the culture because the culture was sick
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and quite honestly too unconstitutional for me if you sat there that whole time maybe you were thinking
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i'm just gonna hold out until you know sanity returns i'm gonna keep my head low you know maybe
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that was the right thing to do but if you were participating in any of that if you think well
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he's gonna fire me now good leave save us trouble leave but uh he is taking he's taking all of it on
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uh i mean every single horn or every single bull that he needs to take by the horns he's taking it