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00:03:29.680 Welcome to Monday.

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00:05:26.780 I don't know if anybody in Washington slept this weekend.

00:05:28.960 On Saturday, we saw two massive events that could reshape the globe as we know it.

00:05:37.420 Let's see.

00:05:38.340 Let's start with what President Trump announced when he announced the ceasefire between India and Pakistan.

00:05:45.540 Now, these are two nuclear-armed nations that were teetering on the edge of nuclear war.

00:05:51.980 At some time, the United States and China, our biggest economic rival, struck a trade deal to slash tariffs and cool the economic tensions because we were about to go full nuclear economically with that country. 0.55

00:06:08.660 So, let's talk about India and Pakistan first.

00:06:11.800 Situation in Kashmir has been a powder keg for decades.

00:06:15.980 These two countries have been at each other's throat for forever.

00:06:23.720 And it started in, like, I don't know, the 1940s when the British were like, we're not going to be calling anymore.

00:06:29.500 And they leave and then everybody starts to go to hell.

00:06:32.520 So, they have been fighting over this disputed region ever since.

00:06:37.720 Now, fast forward to April 22nd of this year, and there was this horrible terrorist attack in Kashmir, in this province that is now administered to by the Indians. 0.88

00:06:54.280 It left 26 people dead.

00:06:56.220 And India points the finger at Pakistan, saying, you back the attackers.

00:07:01.080 Pakistan denied it, but India is not buying it, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:07:04.980 Everything starts to escalate.

00:07:08.660 And they launch Operation Sindur.

00:07:11.720 They hit what they called a terrorist infrastructure inside of Pakistan.

00:07:16.720 Well, Pakistan says, that's not terrorist.

00:07:18.840 And they retaliate with a drone and missile strike.

00:07:21.360 And by last week, we were talking about air bases getting hit, civilian casualties piling up.

00:07:26.900 Both sides of the issue were accusing each other of, you know, you're violating the 1960 Treaty of, you know, whatever.

00:07:36.420 This wasn't a border skirmish.

00:07:38.700 This was a serious escalation and the most serious escalation of anything in the region since 1971.

00:07:46.480 Both countries, nuclear.

00:07:49.560 Okay.

00:07:49.860 Then, out of nowhere, because last week, Donald Trump said, I'm not going to get involved.

00:07:56.020 It's between them.

00:07:56.740 And I'm like, okay, all right.

00:07:58.680 I like the fact that we're not getting involved, but they have nuclear weapons.

00:08:02.660 Should we get involved just a little bit?

00:08:05.440 Saturday, Donald Trump comes out and he posts on True Social.

00:08:09.020 After a long night of talks mediated by the United States, I'm pleased to announce that India and Pakistan have agreed to a full and immediate ceasefire.

00:08:15.720 Congratulations to both countries on using common sense and great intelligence.

00:08:21.280 Secretary of State Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance had been working the phones for 48 hours talking to the prime minister in both Pakistan and in India and even Pakistan's army chief.

00:08:31.920 Pakistan's prime minister then publicly thanked Donald Trump for his pivotal role.

00:08:36.920 But then India starts to get a little cagey and the prime minister is like, Donald Trump, what?

00:08:42.080 We're in White House, huh?

00:08:43.640 I don't know what happened, but here's where it gets even more messy.

00:08:49.220 Hours after the ceasefire is announced, explosions start to rock in Kashmir again.

00:08:57.440 And India is like, uh, hello. 0.99

00:09:01.560 So Pakistan, I don't remember which one started.

00:09:06.000 Well, one of them started it.

00:09:07.180 Now they're both blaming each other for starting it and everything.

00:09:09.700 By Sunday morning, everything, you know, started to look like it was spiraling out of control and everybody was pointing fingers.

00:09:16.780 Trump doubles down and he says, you know, you stop all this and I'll substantially increase trade with both of you guys and we'll mediate a long term solution for Kashmir.

00:09:32.880 OK, so now I guess we're back in the.

00:09:35.760 I don't even know if this guy ever sleeps.

00:09:37.800 When does this guy ever sleep?

00:09:41.100 So while he's doing that, he also hammered out a 90 day trade truce with Beijing.

00:09:50.440 The details are coming out today, but the U.S.

00:09:54.400 cutting tariffs on Chinese goods from 145 percent to 30 percent.

00:10:00.500 And the world goes, oh, OK.

00:10:05.220 China, in return, drops their trade from 125 percent to 10 percent.

00:10:12.720 So the trade war has been strangling both of us, been hurting them much more than has been hurting us.

00:10:17.580 But it's it's not going to be pretty if we don't stop all of this.

00:10:20.780 And it looks like the president was right about all of all of this so far.

00:10:28.880 White House calls it substantial progress toward tackling our one point two trillion dollar trade deficit with China.

00:10:35.200 The talk started on Friday.

00:10:37.560 They were wrapped up yesterday and today.

00:10:41.080 The dollar is climbing.

00:10:42.500 The global markets are breathing a sigh of relief.

00:10:46.800 And maybe we're past a lot of this.

00:10:49.260 I don't know.

00:10:50.720 I don't know.

00:10:51.880 I don't know.

00:10:53.020 Now, could I put my tinfoil hat on here for just a second?

00:10:55.940 Something I talked to you about last week, I asked you, is China, were they were they doing a proxy war on us?

00:11:05.940 You know, were they using Pakistan to stir things up with India?

00:11:09.540 Because India was starting to side with the United States. 0.90

00:11:12.480 And we were talking about doing more business with India and more manufacturing.

00:11:16.540 And India is very important to China.

00:11:19.840 So did Beijing get involved and kind of push?

00:11:24.260 You know, we've been talking to India, Pakistan. 0.88

00:11:27.820 You would not believe they called you fat.

00:11:30.220 I don't know what was going on, but it coincided with all of the tariff stuff.

00:11:35.820 And then the weekend that we have all the tariff stuff resolved is the same time that Pakistan and India get back together.

00:11:45.100 Now, they were out of order.

00:11:47.240 But I don't.

00:11:49.940 I don't.

00:11:51.000 I have.

00:11:51.340 It's just, you know, I just don't believe in coincidence when it comes to global economics.

00:12:00.800 I mean, it's a chess board.

00:12:02.640 And every I mean, Donald Trump is playing 15 D chess.

00:12:06.300 But is China?

00:12:07.900 Of course they are.

00:12:08.800 They play go.

00:12:10.220 Of course, they're doing things as well.

00:12:12.900 I don't know if that happened, if China was involved.

00:12:16.140 But I'm just like, today, can we just go, OK, all right, that's pretty good.

00:12:23.740 That's good.

00:12:24.280 Because now, I guess, we can all get back to business without fear of nuclear war, at least from those two countries.

00:12:35.900 And maybe the tariff thing is over with China.

00:12:40.240 Can we all just, like, relax for a minute, please?

00:12:44.500 Maybe we'll see how it works out now.

00:12:51.940 There's something else that happened.

00:12:54.340 Where do I start?

00:12:55.220 Do I start with the airplane or do I start with the with the drug companies?

00:12:59.000 OK, so Donald Trump is going to sign an executive order on drug companies.

00:13:10.680 And there are moments.

00:13:12.760 It's rare.

00:13:14.060 But it's unnerving because it's rare.

00:13:16.340 When you realize the ideas that made you who you are are now in conflict inside of yourself.

00:13:22.940 And you're like, oh, wait, hold on just a second.

00:13:25.340 Wait a minute.

00:13:26.220 I thought I was four.

00:13:27.200 Now I don't know.

00:13:29.000 I found myself in one of those moments yesterday when I heard about the latest.

00:13:34.940 President Trump has just announced he's signing an executive order to slash prescription drugs by up to 80 percent by trying what Americans, you know, pay for.

00:13:49.400 And trying to get the drug companies to charge us the same that they charge all the other countries.

00:13:55.920 OK, he's calling it the most favored nations pricing policy.

00:14:00.620 And that sounds really good.

00:14:03.140 And I don't like things that usually sound have nice, snappy little names because it's like the Patriot Act.

00:14:07.980 Well, I'm a patriot.

00:14:09.300 I'm for that.

00:14:10.520 On the surface, this feels like a big win.

00:14:15.400 We have been ripped off.

00:14:16.340 Donald Trump is right about one thing.

00:14:17.880 We've been ripped off over and over and over again.

00:14:21.100 You know that we play double, triple and even sometimes four times as much as what other nations pay for for the exact same drugs for the same companies.

00:14:31.040 Now, I have made this observation for years saying, oh, wait a minute.

00:14:37.940 You don't like that.

00:14:39.160 Well, no, no, no.

00:14:39.720 But we're the richest people in the world.

00:14:41.940 We're the richest people ever on Earth.

00:14:43.780 You're not even going to miss it, America.

00:14:46.120 We're just paying more tax.

00:14:47.640 We're just paying our fair share to help the rest of the world that is so very poor.

00:14:52.620 Oh, you don't like that.

00:14:53.920 Oh, well, then maybe you're not for progressive income tax because that's what this is.

00:15:00.660 We are paying for all of the research so the rest of the world can have cheap drugs.

00:15:07.940 Okay, I don't like that.

00:15:11.800 Good.

00:15:12.740 Now let's follow through.

00:15:15.560 How come you like the same system when it comes to income tax?

00:15:20.380 If it's wrong one place, it's wrong every place.

00:15:27.600 No, no, but I'm not the richest person in the pile.

00:15:31.300 Oh, so it has everything to do not with principles, but your situation.

00:15:39.640 Okay.

00:15:41.080 Now, with that being said, I really don't like socialism.

00:15:47.100 I don't know if you've heard that.

00:15:49.060 The rumor is going around.

00:15:50.380 I don't like socialism.

00:15:51.960 What is socialism?

00:15:54.120 Socialism is taking money from other people and having the government decide who to give it to.

00:16:01.940 And in this case, socialized medicine would be the government getting involved and saying,

00:16:07.460 you're only going to charge us this.

00:16:09.060 That's not the free market.

00:16:12.440 However, I would like to present the other side.

00:16:16.220 I'm completely conflicted.

00:16:19.060 But I would like to present the other side because I've always been on the side of absolutely not.

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00:17:49.260 Okay.

00:17:49.700 So, we pay double, triple, even quadruple the price that the rest of the world pays for the same exact drugs from the same exact companies.

00:18:00.480 Why?

00:18:01.660 Well, a couple of reasons.

00:18:03.180 One, we've subsidized the entire world.

00:18:06.380 The global pharmaceutical industry makes profit, not in Paris or Toronto or Berlin or any place else, but in Des Moines and Cleveland and Phoenix.

00:18:16.020 You and I, we're the piggy bank.

00:18:19.480 Everyone else is the freeloader.

00:18:22.560 Trump came out and said, no more.

00:18:25.620 And today, he's signing an executive order, which I'm really, could we start to codify anything?

00:18:31.000 Hello?

00:18:32.700 Congress?

00:18:33.600 Are you there?

00:18:34.400 So, what he wants is we'll be the lowest-paying nation, or we at least will pay what the lowest-paying nation pays.

00:18:45.420 Whatever you're charging them, it's reciprocal.

00:18:48.180 Whatever you're charging them, you're going to charge us.

00:18:51.160 Now, it's really hard to not cheer for that.

00:18:54.940 I think I'm really for that.

00:18:59.380 And here's why.

00:19:00.800 This is not the free market system.

00:19:04.240 This is everyone who is vying for a house, okay, is negotiating for their house, except for you.

00:19:15.680 You're the only one that is like, no, I'm going to pay full price.

00:19:21.780 And the seller of the house is like, wait a minute, I got this chump coming in, and he always wants to, he insists on paying full price. 1.00

00:19:29.260 I'm going to raise the price of the house.

00:19:33.000 That's right.

00:19:33.680 I'm going to pay it because I can afford to pay it, and I'm going to help all the other people on the block. 0.86

00:19:39.320 No chump. 1.00

00:19:40.660 Chumpity chump chump. 1.00

00:19:42.140 No bad idea.

00:19:43.820 Negotiate.

00:19:46.180 That's part of the free market.

00:19:48.640 The system has been broken for a long time because lobbyists have protected it with pharmaceutical companies.

00:19:56.640 And, wouldn't you know, we have an all-encompassing broken health care system.

00:20:04.080 All the insurance companies.

00:20:05.120 Nobody cares what their drugs cost unless you pay for them.

00:20:08.540 I don't care if the, oh, this, this, this is a very expensive medication.

00:20:12.940 I don't know, is the insurance company paying for it?

00:20:15.700 Well, yes.

00:20:16.500 I don't care.

00:20:17.820 Okay?

00:20:18.060 All of us say that.

00:20:19.300 All of us say that.

00:20:20.240 That's the problem.

00:20:21.320 Now, you know, when you're rationing insulin or splitting pills or just flat-out dying because you can't afford the medicine, that's a problem if you're paying much, much, much, much, much, much more.

00:20:40.460 Now, for instance, there are medicines that we're paying $2,000 for that the Japanese pay $20 for. 1.00

00:20:47.320 Why?

00:20:48.160 Why aren't we paying $20, too?

00:20:49.800 So, I believe in the free market.

00:20:55.080 I believe, you know, governments shouldn't price that.

00:20:59.800 I'm pretty strong on that one.

00:21:02.000 I don't think government price control is really good.

00:21:05.280 And I think every time the government does something like this, it's like the guy who's sitting next to you as you're driving on a windy road and they're like, I don't know, I don't know, you're going so fast and you're going to miss this turn.

00:21:18.420 And they reach over and they grab the wheel and you're like, no!

00:21:20.940 And you're both off a cliff.

00:21:22.700 That's usually what happens when the government starts to backseat drive or drive in the passenger seat, you know, as you're driving the car.

00:21:33.160 Okay?

00:21:34.720 History isn't kind to ideas like this.

00:21:38.040 Remember the 1990s, Hillary Clinton?

00:21:40.520 I've got a vision for health care.

00:21:42.440 Yeah, that worked out, huh?

00:21:45.700 Top-down, centralized, you know, it's not arrogant. 0.53

00:21:49.400 It's just unbelievably arrogant.

00:21:52.320 And one of her smaller programs that she pushed for was a federal mandate forcing vaccine makers to make childhood immunizations to the U.S. government

00:22:01.200 at deeply discounted prices so every child could get vaccinated.

00:22:06.520 Sounds pretty noble.

00:22:08.840 What happened?

00:22:10.380 Well, the people who made the vaccines went, you know what, I'm just going to get out of the market.

00:22:14.400 It's not worth it anymore.

00:22:16.540 Uh-oh.

00:22:17.960 So they couldn't make a profit anymore.

00:22:20.080 So the supply chain withered and the red tape increased and short issues swept the country.

00:22:25.600 And then the government had to step in.

00:22:28.540 Wait a minute.

00:22:29.060 So the government stepped in to fix the problem.

00:22:30.980 Then it didn't work.

00:22:31.780 So the government had to step in and get, give me the wheel!

00:22:34.340 That's what they're doing.

00:22:35.660 They step in and more regulation and then more subsidies and then more control.

00:22:40.320 And then you no longer have a free market system.

00:22:43.900 That's where we're at right now.

00:22:46.060 Because eventually, the government that broke the system becomes the only thing keeping the system alive.

00:22:54.900 That's not the free market.

00:22:57.760 That's dependency.

00:23:00.060 That's also insanity.

00:23:03.120 So what do you do with Donald Trump's executive order?

00:23:06.580 Is it a betrayal of the free market principles?

00:23:11.380 Or is it a necessary course correction in a market that hasn't been free in decades?

00:23:18.580 Is what he's doing actually fixing the system?

00:23:22.920 Because he's like, I'm going to show up and negotiate.

00:23:26.800 Because everybody else is negotiating.

00:23:29.000 So the biggest buyer of pharmaceuticals, why do we just go, yeah, whatever.

00:23:33.820 Whatever you want to charge.

00:23:34.640 What do you want to charge us?

00:23:35.440 That sounds good.

00:23:36.580 You know me, you want to charge us more?

00:23:38.060 That sounds good too.

00:23:39.440 Want to charge us less?

00:23:40.240 I don't really care.

00:23:40.940 We're not negotiating.

00:23:42.020 Why would we do that as the biggest buyer of drugs?

00:23:45.800 Because that's the problem here.

00:23:49.520 The government's already involved.

00:23:53.060 Maybe we should get the government out of it entirely.

00:23:56.980 More in a minute.

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00:25:38.720 So I find myself in this situation today, agreeing in theory and yet disagreeing in theory.

00:25:48.220 When we're talking about the president coming in and saying, hey, I'm negotiating for drug

00:25:52.940 prices, okay, wait, hold it, wait.

00:25:55.660 I don't like this because I don't want the government involved in any of this.

00:25:59.740 However, hmm, if I don't like the government involved in any of this, then we shouldn't

00:26:05.280 have Medicare, Medicaid, and socialized anything.

00:26:08.740 The government should be out of it.

00:26:11.460 And that's where we have been as a movement.

00:26:16.580 Most of us have been, okay, can't do this.

00:26:19.480 Can't do this.

00:26:19.880 I don't want this.

00:26:21.220 But that requires us to debate and win the debate on the bigger issue.

00:26:28.660 Nowhere in the Constitution is this allowed for the government not to negotiate for drug

00:26:34.700 prices.

00:26:36.020 Nowhere in the Constitution is the government allowed to do socialized medicine.

00:26:42.820 Okay?

00:26:43.460 So if you want to have that argument, I am so with you on that.

00:26:48.340 Let's have that argument.

00:26:49.860 Let's have that argument.

00:26:50.720 It's a fun argument.

00:26:51.460 Right.

00:26:52.260 Now, if you want to just have the argument that, well, the president shouldn't negotiate

00:26:57.780 on our behalf.

00:26:58.740 Wait a minute.

00:26:59.140 As a taxpayer, if you're going to, can we just not keep getting hit in the face by everybody

00:27:04.900 around the world?

00:27:06.060 They're all, this is so complex.

00:27:09.440 This makes my brain hurt.

00:27:10.900 But everyone else is negotiating.

00:27:16.680 We're not. 0.98

00:27:17.780 So we're getting screwed. 0.78

00:27:19.460 We're paying $2,000, you know, for a drug that the rest of the world is paying $20 for 0.96

00:27:25.140 for a drug.

00:27:25.880 However, let's remember, the rest of the world is on socialized medicine.

00:27:31.500 They may pay $20 for a drug, but you still can't get that drug over there because it's

00:27:37.480 socialized medicine.

00:27:38.500 And of course, this is a big part of the, one of the reasons, you know, why we pay a

00:27:42.580 premium is we generally get access to these drugs first.

00:27:46.080 The GLP ones are a great recent example of this, all the weight loss injection drugs.

00:27:51.740 These are, you know, corporations made them, in fact, not even just American corporations.

00:27:56.280 Novo Nordisk is a, is not an American corporation.

00:27:58.600 They're the ones that do Ozempic and that.

00:28:02.700 And when they went into shortage, which they did when they came out because everybody wanted

00:28:07.120 them, we were like the only country getting them, right?

00:28:10.640 We got them before everybody else in the globe.

00:28:13.360 Now, whether you like them or not is not the point here.

00:28:15.320 The point is that these new drugs tend to come to markets, just like, by the way, every

00:28:18.800 other product.

00:28:19.380 When you come up with a new product, where do they go?

00:28:21.360 To where people will spend more for them, right?

00:28:23.660 So they came here and they didn't go anywhere else, you know, again, do you, do you want

00:28:29.220 that?

00:28:29.780 You might not.

00:28:30.740 So here's the thing.

00:28:32.120 As long as you, as long as the government doesn't get into negotiating drugs for everyone,

00:28:38.160 you know, personally, oh, you mean the socialized medicine thing that the government is doing,

00:28:45.320 the Obamacare, you can't get that drug? 0.94

00:28:47.900 Hey, guess what?

00:28:48.880 Over here in the free market, you get off of Obamacare, you can have that drug.

00:28:53.160 Yeah.

00:28:53.660 You know, if you make all of the system actually do what it will do eventually, which is destroy

00:29:01.980 people's lives and become the VA for everybody, where everybody is like, I think I'd rather

00:29:08.360 kill myself than go through this anymore.

00:29:12.080 Then maybe you have a chance of ending it, because as long as they're not negotiating for

00:29:17.160 the part of the market that is semi-free, so it's not free because of all the government

00:29:23.120 restrictions on, you know, healthcare and insurance.

00:29:29.080 But if insurance, you know, maybe we could get that free and then that system would work

00:29:33.260 and we'd be able to have the drugs.

00:29:34.760 But right now, I don't know why we have to have this broken system and not negotiate and

00:29:42.960 look at the front, not with, you know, supervision, not with 2010 vision, but with a 2020 vision

00:29:52.560 and look ahead and go, oh, I see that.

00:29:55.520 All of the bridges are out right in front of the car because we're collapsing because we

00:30:02.480 can't afford everything.

00:30:04.100 And so nobody's willing to argue that we shouldn't have all of these socialized programs.

00:30:09.080 We've got to get people off these programs.

00:30:11.260 Nobody's willing to do it.

00:30:14.400 So if, if this move actually saves a lot of money and saves us from the abyss, even for

00:30:25.740 a couple of weeks, isn't it worth doing?

00:30:30.380 Especially if it makes things worse for those who are for socialized medicine and makes the

00:30:37.360 free market a little more attractive.

00:30:41.260 Well, I mean, you know, there's a very long litany of reasons as to why, you know, as

00:30:46.040 you mentioned, it's not really something the government in the United States is supposed

00:30:49.180 to have a role in.

00:30:50.120 I'm with you on that.

00:30:51.100 I think we, I think we have to just agree that the simple answer is no, you shouldn't

00:30:57.460 do any of this.

00:30:58.700 None of this is constitutional.

00:31:00.500 Yeah.

00:31:00.960 And I guess like it's part of it is just like going back to tracing why we opposed it when,

00:31:05.260 you know, Bernie Sanders, you know, would propose something like this, right?

00:31:08.620 Why did we oppose it when they tried to do it with Medicaid initially?

00:31:13.420 You know, there's a lot of reasons why.

00:31:15.500 One of the reasons why is when you have a big, you know, giant 5,000 pound gorilla like

00:31:20.080 the U.S. government and all the money that they spend on this, you wind up with major

00:31:23.320 market manipulation and distortion.

00:31:28.100 And that is a problem.

00:31:29.520 Of course, one of the reasons why our medical system is good, if you believe it's good,

00:31:34.260 by the way, we should also note that like, it's an interesting kind of confluence of

00:31:38.960 events when we're sort of embracing the idea.

00:31:41.220 I know you've talked about it a lot with RFK Jr., for example, that one of the reason why

00:31:45.720 we have so much sickness is because of pharmaceuticals.

00:31:49.860 Now, that's not my belief, but that is a belief of a lot of people in the movement currently.

00:31:54.380 And if that is true, why would we want to lower prices on these pharmaceuticals that

00:31:58.820 we all say are causing all of our, you know, long-term disease?

00:32:03.060 I don't have an answer to that part.

00:32:05.480 That's something that I think if you're in that wing of the movement.

00:32:07.920 I think this is why so many people who have had really strong values for so long are waking

00:32:14.140 up every day and going, I don't know how to feel about this.

00:32:17.620 Right.

00:32:17.900 It's a confusing time, I will say.

00:32:19.460 Because everything is broken.

00:32:21.380 I mean, you go to, okay, well, I mean, that argument, that's the next level.

00:32:25.280 It's another one.

00:32:25.980 That's the next level.

00:32:27.320 And you're like, well, why?

00:32:28.420 Because the whole thing is broken.

00:32:30.120 And you're like, yeah, good point.

00:32:33.120 I don't really, wow.

00:32:34.940 I mean, we're so deep down the road of there are no good options because we haven't made

00:32:44.300 good choices.

00:32:45.220 You know why we don't have nice things, kids?

00:32:47.520 Because we break everything we have.

00:32:50.820 That's why.

00:32:51.500 Yeah.

00:32:51.860 You know, it's like you come to that.

00:32:53.100 I was thinking about this a little bit because one of the way we've talked about these policies,

00:32:57.540 this is not a new policy.

00:32:58.840 Now, it is new through an executive order, which is another layer on top of this, because

00:33:04.200 obviously, if these policies could be done legally through an executive order, my belief

00:33:10.100 is both Barack Obama and Joe Biden would have done them.

00:33:13.660 They didn't even have, they didn't seem to even care whether they were legal and they still

00:33:17.540 didn't attempt this.

00:33:18.300 We will see what the courts say, of course, about that.

00:33:20.920 But like, I don't like that.

00:33:23.960 I don't like that.

00:33:25.700 I don't like that.

00:33:27.140 I don't think you can pout your way out of this, Glenn.

00:33:29.240 I don't like it.

00:33:29.820 I don't like it.

00:33:30.420 I don't like it.

00:33:31.220 Make it go away.

00:33:32.120 Make it go away.

00:33:33.200 I mean, it's so clear.

00:33:36.740 But like, it's true.

00:33:38.820 Right.

00:33:39.120 Like, I stopped just violating the Constitution.

00:33:41.800 And that means we have to go back a hundred years.

00:33:44.180 Yes, you're right.

00:33:45.640 Which, by the way, you know who started Mother's Day?

00:33:48.400 Woodrow Wilson!

00:33:50.760 We didn't even get the Mother's Day Woodrow Wilson rant this year yet.

00:33:53.660 No, you didn't.

00:33:54.520 Hopefully, that's coming later on in the program.

00:33:57.240 But like, when you go back and you say, okay, let's trace this back in conservative thought.

00:34:01.860 Conservatives have opposed this policy forever.

00:34:03.800 Why?

00:34:04.420 Maybe they're just wrong.

00:34:05.400 I mean, look, conservatives are wrong on stuff, right?

00:34:07.820 Maybe the movement has been wrong on this the entire time.

00:34:10.200 No.

00:34:10.340 When, you know, other left-wing people have been proposing it.

00:34:13.800 No.

00:34:14.320 Well, maybe they were.

00:34:15.560 No.

00:34:16.080 One of the reasons, though, one of the real arguments from conservatives on this was to say, hey, we're going to lose medical innovation.

00:34:26.080 Right?

00:34:26.300 That's one of the main central arguments.

00:34:28.440 When you distort a market like this, you wind up giving all sorts of incentives that you're not going to see coming on day one.

00:34:34.720 Right.

00:34:35.060 That wind up destroying innovation in the medical field.

00:34:37.960 I will say, the movement doesn't seem all that interested in innovation in the medical field these days.

00:34:44.100 Well, you know what?

00:34:44.940 Can I add a layer to that?

00:34:46.200 Because I played this out of my head driving in today.

00:34:48.560 Okay.

00:34:48.800 Let me add that layer.

00:34:49.700 Yeah.

00:34:50.360 I'm not so worried about that.

00:34:51.660 We're going to have AI and AGI and ASI so soon it's going to solve all those problems.

00:34:55.960 That could be.

00:34:56.720 That's not even where I was going with it.

00:34:58.140 I was thinking people aren't really in, like.

00:35:00.940 I know.

00:35:01.860 You know, the RFK people are as interested in that.

00:35:04.340 In five years from now, you're going to have, not even that, you're going to have AI or AGI or ASI that will say, oh, you want to fix that?

00:35:12.960 Well, just here.

00:35:14.180 Mix this, this, this.

00:35:15.480 And you don't even have to go to trials for it.

00:35:17.360 It'll just be right.

00:35:18.680 There will be no, there are not going to be teams of people working on stuff.

00:35:22.780 It'll be AI.

00:35:23.840 It could be, yeah.

00:35:24.460 So, that's a whole other layer.

00:35:25.840 It will be.

00:35:26.560 It will be.

00:35:27.780 Oh, it will be.

00:35:28.940 Right.

00:35:29.900 I mean, it's still.

00:35:30.660 Be afraid.

00:35:31.520 I mean, and maybe AI completely solves this.

00:35:34.100 I still think, though, as an old-timey capitalist that, like.

00:35:38.560 Yeah.

00:35:38.860 That the profit pursuits.

00:35:41.100 Let me give you some lemonade there in your locker.

00:35:43.560 Right.

00:35:44.220 That profit, like the profit, the pursuit of profit is an incentive for innovation.

00:35:49.520 Right.

00:35:49.860 So, I do think that is a long-term positive.

00:35:51.980 It is.

00:35:52.560 For the market.

00:35:53.020 And for innovation generally, and these things, look, you can even, even if you don't like

00:35:58.840 medication, you probably acknowledge that some of these have been very positive.

00:36:02.280 So, you probably still want at least what you would consider the good innovations.

00:36:05.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:06.400 So, look, I understand what you're saying.

00:36:08.620 It's not a, I understand why a lot of people are torn on this.

00:36:12.220 And I think I can see where you're coming from.

00:36:14.120 It's not one that I feel torn on.

00:36:15.700 I don't think it's a good idea.

00:36:17.080 I don't think you should be in the middle of this.

00:36:18.460 I don't think it's a good idea either.

00:36:19.140 Well, you're being a little bit more open to it, which I understand.

00:36:22.760 Because I, the one thing I'm sure of, I'm not sure of anything anymore.

00:36:26.620 Right, right.

00:36:27.280 Okay?

00:36:27.900 I don't have any idea anymore.

00:36:29.860 Look, if the goal is to centralize power and control the pharmaceutical industry from

00:36:34.260 Washington, I am 100% slam on the brakes.

00:36:38.340 Now, I'm not against slamming on the brakes here for the other goal.

00:36:42.060 But if the goal is for the power of the president to break up a corrupt pricing monopoly, to give

00:36:49.100 Americans leverage again, because we've already violated the free market so horribly, because 0.55

00:36:57.880 the government has no place at the table, then is, is that pragmatic?

00:37:02.780 And is that principled?

00:37:04.360 I don't know.

00:37:05.480 No, I just know this.

00:37:06.380 The market has to be free.

00:37:08.080 Okay?

00:37:08.720 But if the players inside, inside, I mean, it has, competition has to be protected.

00:37:21.520 Okay?

00:37:22.780 You, you, you have to have competition, accountability, and consequences.

00:37:28.940 We don't have any of those things right now.

00:37:32.940 None of those things.

00:37:34.380 That's not a true free market.

00:37:36.760 That's a casino where the house always win and you and I always lose. 0.60

00:37:41.500 That's what this is.

00:37:43.640 So is this move going to reset the table?

00:37:48.040 What if it forces companies to negotiate again, to compete again, to innovate again?

00:37:52.700 I don't know.

00:37:54.240 On, usually that wouldn't happen.

00:37:56.360 But we're, we're looking at a time where the whole country is just being sucked into a giant 0.96

00:38:01.920 crap hole and not because of Donald Trump, but because of what everyone has done for 0.97

00:38:07.560 the last 100 years. 0.99

00:38:09.520 The chickens are coming home to roost.

00:38:12.780 So now how do you reset it?

00:38:16.640 I don't know.

00:38:18.200 I don't know.

00:38:19.940 I don't know.

00:38:20.860 I just, here's what I, and I think you should use this as a model.

00:38:24.140 The only thing I'm certain of is that I'm not certain of anything anymore.

00:38:28.960 Because the, everything, you cannot just blanket say, I'm a free market capitalist.

00:38:35.860 Okay, great.

00:38:36.900 So am I.

00:38:38.580 Now let's take that apart and see what that means.

00:38:41.600 Where did we go wrong?

00:38:42.940 So what should you really be for?

00:38:44.700 And until you're willing to say, I'm for that and only that, which will dig us into a deeper

00:38:51.420 hole, uh, should we be, uh, should we not be pragmatic or is that selling out?

00:39:00.360 Don't know.

00:39:00.960 Haven't dealt with these issues before.

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00:42:09.660 The president is now speaking on the trade deal, the peace deal, and then he's going

00:42:26.640 to do the drug deal.

00:42:28.440 Wait, that sounds bad.

00:42:29.800 He's doing drug deals.

00:42:32.260 There's a new headline for the media to run with.

00:42:34.840 It's interesting.

00:42:35.920 Every once in a while, you get this sort of criticism of Trump that he just,

00:42:39.660 sits around inside and watches Fox News all day.

00:42:42.960 And that just is not, I'm not saying he doesn't watch a lot of Fox News.

00:42:47.140 I think he likes Fox News, at least at times.

00:42:49.820 But like, the energy level.

00:42:52.100 He didn't see it on in any room.

00:42:54.420 In any room.

00:42:55.140 He does seem familiar with the people on it.

00:42:57.400 Like, Janine Pirro just got announced.

00:42:59.100 Again, the reason she was on Fox News is because she had a high-level government 0.98

00:43:03.180 job in law enforcement in New York.

00:43:06.200 It's like people forget the first part of it.

00:43:08.060 Like, you get a big job in law enforcement, then you get the Fox News gig, then you get

00:43:13.120 hired into the Trump administration.

00:43:14.600 People are like, oh, he just keeps hiring broadcasters.

00:43:17.180 No, they had the job because my uncle was a homicide detective in Westchester County

00:43:24.260 in New York.

00:43:26.140 Love the guy.

00:43:26.820 Passed away a few years ago, unfortunately, due to cancer.

00:43:29.160 But when he was there, he worked with Janine Pirro on a regular basis and loved her.

00:43:35.620 Like, loved her.

00:43:36.580 This is a guy who wanted to solve murders.

00:43:38.700 Oh, yeah.

00:43:38.980 As a judge, she's good.

00:43:40.640 Loved her.

00:43:42.020 So, you know, she, like, the point being, though, what I get out of him is he's really

00:43:49.020 freaking busy.

00:43:49.860 Like, he's doing a lot.

00:43:51.500 I don't think he's just watching TV.

00:43:52.820 I don't think he's hanging out, going to bed at noon like the last president was.

00:43:57.560 No.

00:43:57.620 He's pretty busy.

00:43:58.980 No.

00:43:59.500 Like it or not, he's pretty busy.

00:44:01.300 Okay.

00:44:02.040 The China trade deal.

00:44:03.980 The India-Pakistan deal.

00:44:06.000 There's a lot going on.

00:44:06.640 The drug deal.

00:44:09.520 Drug deals.

00:44:10.240 I mean, when does he sleep?

00:44:13.180 That was just from the last two days.

00:44:15.400 And there's more than that.

00:44:17.440 We'll have that coming up.

00:44:20.140 This is Glenn Beck.

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00:47:07.780 hello america right now the white house the president's getting ready to go to saudi arabia

00:47:13.720 where i guess they have some big announcements in saudi arabia that they're going to make but today

00:47:17.260 uh he just is right now signing the executive order on prescription drugs he says this will

00:47:23.420 uh reduce the amount that we pay for drugs by 30 to 80 percent uh we've already talked about that

00:47:29.780 because that's a complex thing uh we talked about that if you missed it in our number one of today's

00:47:34.640 podcast go back and get it wherever you get your podcasts um the other things that he's working on

00:47:41.840 uh is uh the china trade deal which we talked about as well that that seems to be a pretty good deal

00:47:50.240 looks like that may be in the rearview mirror also on saturday i guess we have a pakistani and

00:47:56.720 uh indian peace treaty what i don't know when this guy sleeps there's also the plane thing that we

00:48:05.200 have to talk about new air force one that one is a little problematic but i want to talk to you about

00:48:11.500 that and the latest on the pope the pope came out this weekend and said hey i want to talk to you

00:48:18.580 about the ai thing and he's right about this we'll talk about that and so much more coming up in just

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00:49:33.740 there is no safe like simply safe okay so pope pope leo which i'm sorry maybe it's just because of leo the lion

00:49:43.920 but when i think of leo the lion i immediately think of the wizard of oz and that lion and i think of the pope

00:49:49.680 then saying what do i have that the last pope didn't have courage uh so excuse me but um he came out there

00:49:58.360 saying now that he may not be as bad as francis well that would be nice that would be nice um but he

00:50:04.800 came out and he talked about ai and said ah we should be a little concerned about this because

00:50:13.040 it could eat individualism it could eat you know humanity and what it means to be human uh and i think

00:50:21.780 he's i think he's right on that one uh and you know there's two kinds of people the people that think

00:50:26.540 that i know this is gonna happen everybody said bad things you know about about the internet and

00:50:33.020 social media and how it yeah look what it's done in 10 sweet sweet 10 years to our children look what

00:50:38.620 it's done and this is far more powerful so don't dismiss it and the other is well you're just afraid

00:50:44.060 of progress no i'm really not i'm i'm i'm more afraid of surrendering the very thing that makes us

00:50:49.220 human you know and here's the here's the the truth the real hard truth on ai it's real ai is real

00:50:57.340 its gifts are real um and its dangers are just as real it it is going to offer us blessings

00:51:05.000 that we've never seen will change the world it will it'll personalize education for every single

00:51:12.340 child it will have medical breakthroughs you know we were just talking about the prescription drug thing

00:51:16.540 uh that trump just is signing in now and you know part of that is well it's going to hurt innovation

00:51:23.860 well is it i mean it could but we are looking about three years from now uh ai and agi and asi being able

00:51:32.000 to go oh you want to solve that i can solve it here's how you make this drug i mean it's we're not

00:51:36.240 going to have these labs doing all kinds of experiments should ai actually solve and do what

00:51:43.940 everybody thinks it's going to do in a very short period of time creativity is going to be enhanced

00:51:49.160 productivity time is going to be redeemed it's really good now there is a red line here kind of

00:51:55.140 really you know when ai stops being a tool and starts becoming the substitute for any kind of human

00:52:01.680 thought you know or relationships ai like government just like fire it can light your way it can warm

00:52:11.600 your home or it will burn everything in your life down to the ground so when i saw the pope's message

00:52:18.960 this weekend i of course went on to ai and i said what do you think of this okay here's what ai said to

00:52:25.880 me look out because there is there are going to be a few things that are going to happen that you can

00:52:34.480 watch for to see how close you are to having humans being eaten one dependence over discernment

00:52:42.200 listen to this dependence over discernment if you're asking what do you think i should do

00:52:49.300 okay instead of this is what i believe can you challenge this or support this

00:52:57.540 you've already started to slip if you've if you're like what what is it i believe

00:53:03.520 problem delegating moral reasoning number two when we allow ai to define harm truth or justice we're

00:53:11.940 handing our civilization's soul to a machine that doesn't have one that's a machine telling you this

00:53:17.900 okay that's that's that's a machine you know what that is remember when i've ever said i don't know 0.97

00:53:23.500 people say they're going to kill you i take them at face value you're foolish not to when you have 0.97

00:53:30.220 ai saying by the way i'm going to destroy humanity i don't know i think i listen to it i think i listen to 0.97

00:53:37.340 it so it says these are the things to stay away from chat bots for friends remember we just talked about

00:53:45.680 that with mark zuckerberg last week avatars for pastors algorithms for god

00:53:52.160 quote that's the fracture point number four censorship disguised as safety when ai starts

00:54:01.000 pushing or erasing certain thoughts in the name of alignment you're already living in an invisible

00:54:07.280 dictatorship five the illusion of control if you can't shut it off opt out or walk away you are no

00:54:15.700 longer the master of the machine so then i asked well what will it look like when it starts to break

00:54:22.140 answer it'll be quiet subtle you'll start to see the sameness everywhere no dissent no original

00:54:31.660 thought just sanitized optimized group think your kids won't be able listen to this your kids won't

00:54:38.860 be able to explain why america matters i don't think our kids can do that now they won't understand what

00:54:47.700 a right is where it came from or why it's not up for a vote instead of discussion you'll hear nothing but slogans

00:54:56.420 instead of conviction you'll see compliance and when it collapses it won't take decades it may take hours or days

00:55:08.540 can you unplug if the lines are crossed that's my question answer only if you're practiced before the

00:55:21.140 moment comes unplugging is not about flipping a switch it's about building a new muscle now so what is that

00:55:29.460 muscle think critically knowing who you are without a screen standing on something deeper than a prompt

00:55:37.780 or a feed

00:55:39.060 wow when did those become something we have to remind ourselves to do when did that become something like

00:55:49.240 i don't know i think critically know who i am without the screen that's a crazy thought standing on

00:55:58.560 something deeper than a prompt or a feed how many people do that now how many people actually know what

00:56:05.620 they're for what they're for what they're against a lot of people will say i i'm against this but will

00:56:10.640 they even know why will they even do they even know why they're for something most people are educated

00:56:18.480 through social media and anyone the the man who reads nothing at all is better educated today than

00:56:30.580 someone who only reads social media let that sink in because that's true

00:56:36.720 right now you should use ai as a teacher not a replacement but as a teacher right now you can use ai to

00:56:48.040 educate yourself to learn economics to go on and say this is what i believe make the case make the strongest

00:56:54.780 in this case for and against and then debate debate western thought learn about western thought debate

00:57:02.400 morality and philosophy learn the constitution learn how to grow food learn how to fix a generator speak

00:57:11.700 clearly think clearly reclaim your foundations learn the bible for moral law for human dignity divine order

00:57:22.820 those things are really important learn the declaration and the constitution know your rights and

00:57:28.200 responsibilities know adam smith de toqueville c.s lewis

00:57:34.060 see the patterns and predict the collapse before it happens and know where you should be standing

00:57:42.740 if that collapse happens because if you know what's true you will see what's false before anyone

00:57:51.060 before anyone else and then that allows you to teach others and lead quietly because when confusion

00:57:58.280 is the word of the day when everything and everybody is confused clarity is going to look an awful lot like

00:58:06.340 leadership

00:58:06.780 i saw this warning um i've been we're i've been

00:58:13.340 you know 15 years ago i launched something i launched the blaze 15 years ago

00:58:19.560 and my goal was to disrupt the media and i gotta say if you look you're like i think that worked

00:58:28.140 i think that worked you know when we first started netflix was still sending movies in the mail

00:58:34.780 and look at now the media if you weren't on fox news cnn abc nbc cbs you had no voice you had

00:58:44.880 no voice but honestly because of you and this audience you gave power to the voices that would

00:58:50.940 have been crushed in the system through the blaze and we made truth competitive again

00:58:57.660 some of the people that that we helped elevate now sit in the white house press room that's

00:59:05.720 incredible incredible now here's what needs to be disrupted education and ai can be a part of it

00:59:17.740 can be but it is we have to be so incredibly careful i don't trust ai coming from silicon valley

00:59:26.100 i don't trust ai coming from chat gpt i don't i don't trust it i don't trust any of it i don't trust

00:59:33.040 because i know how it works well nobody actually knows how it works but i know what a lot of its

00:59:38.240 faults are right now and i also know it depends on who's programming it i want to tell you that i

00:59:45.120 have i have two teams of people that are working on something uh that i hopefully will be announcing

00:59:51.500 soon one in each hemisphere so one team is working while the other team is asleep and then they switch

00:59:58.300 in the middle of the night and been working around the clock for over six months on something

01:00:02.380 and we're building something i'm building something that wasn't even possible 24 months ago not even

01:00:12.360 possible but i believe in the end this is going to be the one thing this is going to be the thing that

01:00:19.280 is most the most important thing i've ever done and the time is short and i'll talk to you about it

01:00:26.420 later this uh summer and hopefully if you feel the urgency that i feel you'll be able to support this but

01:00:32.140 we have to corral ai and dedicate ourselves to education today i'm i'm with prager u all day i'm filming a

01:00:46.460 whole bunch of stuff for prager u that uh ap classes are going to have access to uh all over the country

01:00:55.080 and i'll tell you more about that when when it's out but the opportunities that are happening right

01:01:01.980 now on education are endless and we're going to lead that so you need to start educating yourself

01:01:11.400 right now but here's the one thing when you when i read this thing from you know pope leo courage i i

01:01:19.800 thought to myself immediately okay well that's not good i want you to i want you here's your mission

01:01:26.840 today here's the one thing you should be working on today starting today constantly say these two

01:01:35.400 words but god i had been saying well it's going to be interesting to see how that all works out

01:01:43.500 and that's kind of defeatist in a way i mean it's a funny way for me just to dismiss all the things

01:01:48.440 and like well that's not going to go well that's going to be interesting to see how everybody works

01:01:52.040 that one out change it but god but god understand the phrase learn it and live it so in six months

01:02:02.600 from now it's such a part of you that it shapes how you walk how you think how you lead and let me

01:02:08.640 explain all much of the stuff that we're talking about and and then some things that i talked to you

01:02:16.140 about 20 years ago are still on the horizon and it's it's it's going to be a tough ride it's going

01:02:21.000 to be a very it's going to get much worse before it gets much better but here's the thing that all

01:02:27.780 of the models and everything else and ai cannot account for and that is but god because nothing

01:02:36.040 factors him in except you they never do the models never do but god's already working right now in small

01:02:42.780 ways in hearts that i don't see you don't see stories you don't hear movements that are just

01:02:49.280 beginning and like candidates who get shot in the middle of a field and should be dead

01:02:54.500 they're not i mean the president they tried to kill him but god because that's where hope lives

01:03:03.780 not in machines not in governments not even in our plans hope lives in truth in light

01:03:11.320 in god and while things might look really really bad but god he's still on the move

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01:04:46.080 in the middle of a press conference now he's got rfk he's cutting out the middleman he say up on the

01:04:53.940 screen it says you know prescription drug uh bill uh cuts out the middleman and and i'm like no no

01:05:02.240 donald trump's little meetings every day with the press that's what cuts out the middleman yeah you

01:05:08.500 just go right directly to the source he'll spend 25 30 45 minutes just talking to the press answering

01:05:14.320 any question and you get it directly from him it's brilliant i think it's a good innovation in the

01:05:19.140 presidency largely too i mean certainly much better than what we had last president we're a guy who

01:05:24.440 just disappear for months at a time uh it's good that he's out there talking to the american people

01:05:29.460 whether you like his policies or not at least you're hearing about them from him it's kind of nice

01:05:34.480 are you still joe bidening it right now um by the way one interesting part about the drug

01:05:44.020 thing yeah because and the examples you can always find examples you would mention one of two thousand

01:05:48.940 dollars and twenty dollars of the price that we're paying i don't i you know but the average is about

01:05:53.520 three times as much okay for brand name drugs oh that's not bad which is high yeah it's bad i will

01:06:00.260 say however we're paying about a third less than competing countries on generic drugs which are 90

01:06:07.360 percent of our prescriptions in this country right so there is a small subset of drugs right where we do

01:06:13.380 pay more but overall that's not really the case at all and certainly the problem has been massively

01:06:18.520 exaggerated by you know the left over the years and i think there are examples of it where you

01:06:24.380 could sit here you know people will point to that guy who's the guy a pharma bro who was like jacking

01:06:29.500 up all the prices this is you know years ago i don't remember his name off you you'd you'd know the

01:06:33.900 story if i went through the whole thing but we're like you know there are certain examples of prices

01:06:37.780 going really really high on certain things especially drugs that only hit small segments of the

01:06:42.560 population and of course if you're in that segment like you have a disease that could be helped by

01:06:47.460 one of those drugs really really uh important uh to you yeah as a societal situation though the problem

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01:07:15.360 negotiating no we're actually for the free market system the problem is we've violated it so far so so

01:07:24.800 deep violation uh through our our uh our medicare medicaid and our insurance companies and the way we

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01:08:59.020 hang on just a second welcome to the uh glenbeck program uh china has just said that uh they're

01:09:25.140 going to uh not ship fentanyl to the united states anymore and as a guy who wakes up on

01:09:31.720 operating tables what do you mean by that i mean fentanyl is a good thing it's also a very bad thing

01:09:39.260 but it's a good thing it's a good thing if used used as directed excuse as directed yeah that's kind

01:09:45.540 of a yeah thing so you're saying you want fentanyl for its medical uses for medical uses yeah i mean

01:09:51.700 you know it's i mean sometimes there's pain that i mean i look i don't want to take fentanyl uh i

01:09:58.000 don't ever want to take fentanyl again um but i was in pain so badly uh that that's the only thing

01:10:04.180 that took me out of pain for a while and i didn't have a problem with that at the time i wanted the

01:10:08.620 pain to stop and you know strangely it doesn't it just makes you like i don't care i don't really

01:10:14.140 care anymore i'm i'm i think i might be able to fly uh i could put myself out i'm on fire i'll put

01:10:20.940 myself out by flying off the roof you know uh so it's bad when not under uh you know the strict

01:10:30.700 supervision of a doctor right yeah i was talking to a friend of mine who's an anesthesiologist

01:10:35.860 this weekend we're you know in between baseball games yeah uh watch you know and he was saying that

01:10:41.140 you know he he was talking about some drug it wasn't fentanyl it's another one in my mind it

01:10:46.200 translated as the michael jackson drug that uh propofol it might have been that yeah yeah and

01:10:51.520 he was saying you know he yeah this has come a long way over the years this this technology and he

01:10:55.760 says but he says like you know sometimes like certain people he says especially like you know

01:10:59.500 people maybe who are uh you know have uh um sleep apnea have issues um some people who are bigger

01:11:06.500 have issues like where that's two out of the two you're about a thousand i'm anxious to hear what

01:11:14.420 he has to say here but he said sometimes people will in the middle of like of this will open their

01:11:20.120 eyes and just look at you right in the eyes and be awake but not like not awake like dead inside

01:11:27.020 almost like you know like not like hey having a conversation but like no i wake up as i wake up and

01:11:32.520 i'm like i just don't look him in the eye i just say i'm in pain and then they usually have me down

01:11:40.060 again by that time yeah it's credible like what what they could do with this and that's the thing

01:11:44.100 like part of the issue i think over the years is we've gotten a little too generalistic with the

01:11:49.700 medical field and that like you know uh pharmaceutical companies are are the come are the problem like

01:11:55.600 period and it's like well they might cause some problems some of them certainly have done bad things

01:12:00.960 we've had government mandates that we've all disagreed with uh on the other hand they also

01:12:06.380 do a lot of really great things and you know you gotta find that balance i guess this is like where

01:12:10.540 you have to i mean this is where you have to find most things you you you shouldn't be totally against

01:12:16.700 or for anything now there are a few caveats national socialism i'm completely against are you sure

01:12:24.480 i'm positive just i'm positive some historical evidence some historical evidence may pop up from time

01:12:30.500 to time but there are some things but for the most part you can't say pharmaceutical companies are

01:12:35.360 bad they're not they're both they're both they can be greedy they can be destructive uh but they also

01:12:42.580 can be miracle workers miracle workers yeah it's true like i was talking a friend of mine who uh was

01:12:49.760 very very much off of the big pharma bandwagon let's say you know just you know he's i talked to him

01:12:56.220 and he's always said you know and we bust on each other over it and that guy we're definitely on

01:12:59.800 different sides of it and he was just like oh gosh you know every single thing is you know he's

01:13:04.000 anything you can come up with it's a negative connotation to a pharmaceutical company he'll

01:13:08.000 he'll kind of what he believes until he was in the hospital and because he had hurt himself and needed

01:13:14.440 drugs then he was all for it like then all of a sudden you're all for it and like you're using

01:13:19.420 when you get to that point you usually you're usually all for it like i gotta i gotta make it stop

01:13:26.840 all right this is really a good pharmaceutical companies are really a good thing yeah and so

01:13:31.440 there's a difference between hey every single time you have a minor issue you should take

01:13:35.560 endless medication to the end of your life and you know look a lot of these things actually have done

01:13:40.940 a lot of really positive uh uh developments what do you think about advertising pharmaceutical

01:13:45.800 companies advertising i'm i'm fine with it i know most people are not uh most that's it's not

01:13:50.820 we're the only ones in the world that do it you know again this used to be a thing that the american

01:13:57.420 people would be proud of when i know i know when we had a i'm not yelling at you but like it feels 0.96

01:14:03.040 like i do you know what you bastard um no we used to used to say hey we're the only ones doing this 0.96

01:14:10.200 yeah we're the only ones with a with a with the first amendment for example yeah but we used to be 0.97

01:14:16.500 proud of such things i know but we also we also we're not but wait oh but what is inner mongolia

01:14:23.000 doing it if if mongolia has the policy it must be right right no those people didn't even have tvs

01:14:30.440 they really have it going on anyway uh the you know the but the problem is is that we've everything's so

01:14:37.000 out of whack that's the problem for it's wait wait wait yeah i have no problem with average believe me

01:14:44.060 i've built empires on advertising not really pharmaceutical advertising right no yes but so

01:14:50.600 i i i understand advertising but there is a difference between you know i go back to edward

01:14:57.240 bernays the guy who is the father of modern they say advertising he used to be the father of propaganda

01:15:04.520 yeah until goebbels used all of his teachings to like you know do everything that national socialists

01:15:11.720 do that's a earlier topic um you know it's it's propaganda and when it is overused and people

01:15:21.280 just become so brainless that they're like yeah i gotta act on my that i gotta you know what i got

01:15:27.720 that problem i got that problem i need that drug to make that problem go away and you really don't

01:15:32.060 have that problem and everybody nobody really everybody's just making a buck when when it gets

01:15:36.740 that far out of whack then you have problems everything can be solved with all of us just

01:15:43.120 kind of backing away from the extremes just going you know what it's not necessarily a bad thing not

01:15:49.260 on things like free speech though we we no no no i shouldn't back off from that companies should be

01:15:54.260 able to advertise what they want to advertise in my view i i'm saying i mine too i what i'm saying is

01:16:00.240 that if we would just i don't know have an ounce of self-control yeah we wouldn't have to worry about

01:16:10.640 regulation well that's a great point because i and this is why when this debate comes down the line

01:16:16.140 i'm almost confused at who the target is in it look we the target is the pharmaceutical company for

01:16:24.140 saying what they believe their drug does now you might say you might disagree with that but like

01:16:28.300 we have a system in which doctors are required to prescribe these medications and if you go if i

01:16:35.700 go hey i've got plopopal which i saw i was i was watching a basketball game and they said i should

01:16:45.220 have plopopal and then you're there's an element here where the doctor's supposed to say well wait a

01:16:50.720 minute that actually wouldn't make any sense for you or it would right and like people will say well

01:16:55.520 they have undue influence on the doctor you should have a doctor that doesn't isn't telling you what

01:17:01.800 uh it brings me back to what i said have an ounce of self-control exactly it is up to you it's first

01:17:08.800 of all you to make your your decisions as to what you put in your body um and then secondly uh it is

01:17:17.040 an issue where the doctors should have a line there like it's like it's like saying you know fast food

01:17:23.380 companies shouldn't be able to advertise well there's a line there where you're supposed to

01:17:26.480 make decisions on what you eat it's your responsibility not theirs they shouldn't have

01:17:31.000 to say well our food actually sucks you should be able to make decisions about yourself so here's

01:17:36.840 the thing and it i mean it goes back to i mean this is rather new thought okay uh it goes it goes back

01:17:44.760 to i don't know when was it last week no 1750 where adam smith was talking about wealth of nations

01:17:53.880 that's the capitalist system before that was book one of the series moral sentiments yeah where if you

01:18:04.960 don't have self-control if you as a society are just like i want some of that you're you you're gonna

01:18:14.080 get exactly what you deserve and that's the problem we have we have put all of our faith

01:18:20.240 in wealth of nations and completely dismissed moral sentiments wealth of nations the capitalist system 0.65

01:18:28.220 does not work without self-control by everyone involved that means you the consumer i want more porn

01:18:37.400 it will give you more porn so if you don't have self-control then the free market is incentivized

01:18:45.660 because everybody's screaming for more porn you're gonna produce people who rise up and like i'm gonna

01:18:52.520 make money off of that and they'll produce because they have no moral sentiments either they'll produce

01:18:57.940 the porn for everybody screaming for porn so how do you do it you regulate the market no you teach

01:19:07.780 moral sentiments that's why that's why in our country this is why religion has been so important

01:19:15.380 because it puts a self-regulator on people when you look you don't even have to believe in god you

01:19:22.040 don't even have to believe in god let's just say let's just say let's let you and i talk as a couple

01:19:27.860 of atheists here that just don't have any belief in god at all look the rubes that do believe in god 0.71

01:19:35.020 because i know you know so much better i do too you know we don't we don't buy into those fairy tales

01:19:40.360 so you and i know better we don't have to have self-regulation at all we're totally solid

01:19:45.100 but the rest of those people if they just believe there's a scary god some scary sky god there with his

01:19:53.740 thunder gun and he's like oh you're bad i'm gonna send you to hell maybe they won't do those bad 0.88

01:20:00.920 things and society will work now let me explain this as a christian if we just do what god told 0.97

01:20:10.100 us to do he's frustrated god's god's exactly like you are except a better version of it but he's exactly

01:20:19.140 like you are he's been saying to us don't do that that's gonna hurt don't don't don't run with those

01:20:23.560 scissors don't know you don't run into you're gonna run into the patio door you're gonna run into the

01:20:28.700 patio door the it's the patio door don't run and you're gonna run into the boom you hit the patio

01:20:33.100 door and god's like yeah yeah now is that a punishment no he's been telling you the whole time

01:20:38.160 don't do that because that's going to happen so he's just laying out a few rules and going hey don't do

01:20:44.540 that because i'm not going to punish you your own actions will punish you by us not having moral

01:20:51.760 sentiments it's nobody's fault it's not the internet's fault it's not the pharmaceutical

01:20:56.580 company's fault it's not the doctor's fault it's not the it's not the politician's fault you know

01:21:02.380 it's our fault it's their fault it's all of our faults as humans as americans we've chosen

01:21:09.180 we can have everything we can do whatever we want what i do doesn't matter it does matter you

01:21:16.600 want to fix things that's the only way to fix them it's never going to be fixed in washington

01:21:20.080 it's going to be fixed by each of us having just a little bit of self-control you should read this

01:21:26.940 new book called by this new writer what's his name adam smith wealth of nations is book two

01:21:35.360 moral sentiments is book one read moral sentiments you'll understand how to fix it all uh all right

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01:25:15.040 i uh today stew walked in and i was listening to some uh some something as i was doing my show prep and i want you to i want you to hear a little bit of this

01:25:38.500 this is uh this is uh emma nissen and stew walked in and said this is billy eilish

01:25:44.960 this woman is amazing she's in her 20s very very young uh and then and i said no wait a minute 0.99

01:25:59.700 you think it you think it might be billy eilish how about how about let me play this uh tell me who

01:26:08.240 you think tell me who you think she sounds like now

01:26:10.440 her name again is emma nissen

01:26:14.300 let me get to it

01:26:16.660 right now you'd say is she adele this is adele right

01:26:25.880 uh no not adele try try this one uh maybe maybe she's not adele maybe she's not billy eilish

01:26:36.640 maybe listen to this try this

01:26:40.420 is she ella

01:26:48.140 this girl is like unbelievable unbelievable her name again is emma nissen i just found her i know other people have listened to her for a long time i can't stop listening to her

01:27:03.760 and when stew said that to me today i realized that's when you know you found somebody completely original

01:27:10.260 when you listen to me go oh yeah well they're kind of like billy eilish

01:27:13.520 oh well they're kind of like adele well they're kind of like no

01:27:16.480 no

01:27:17.720 they're like emma nissen

01:27:19.600 when somebody comes on the scene

01:27:22.220 and you can't put them into a box

01:27:25.020 it's because they've created their own box

01:27:27.480 and if you haven't heard this girl all of the lyrics are christian

01:27:31.660 uh she's

01:27:33.480 amazing

01:27:34.340 really truly amazing

01:27:36.380 emma nissen

01:27:37.160 uh and uh check your doctor before taking emma nissen if you have an emma nissen

01:27:42.240 we shouldn't let emma nissen

01:27:44.020 uh advertise

01:27:45.340 she's not

01:27:46.340 she's she advertising

01:27:47.940 people will be fooled and they

01:27:50.220 they will be required to listen to emma nissen

01:27:52.920 i'm concerned glenn

01:27:55.580 uh you're concerned

01:27:57.220 i'm concerned people might get overwhelmed by this

01:28:00.000 i know

01:28:00.300 is she causing all of our problems in society 0.96

01:28:02.280 she is probably all of our problems 1.00

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01:32:16.380 71% of Democrats now say that this person should go to prison.

01:32:23.260 Who is that person?

01:32:24.920 Besides Donald Trump.

01:32:28.320 I was going to say, only 70%.

01:32:29.820 It can't be Trump.

01:32:30.700 Yeah.

01:32:31.020 Who?

01:32:31.740 Who?

01:32:32.080 Who?

01:32:32.800 Who?

01:32:33.520 Who?

01:32:33.760 Who?

01:32:34.000 I believe I know the answer to this.

01:32:35.220 Yeah.

01:32:35.380 Who is it?

01:32:36.000 Elon Musk.

01:32:36.720 Elon Musk. 0.92

01:32:37.740 Elon freaking Musk. 0.90

01:32:39.560 They now want to put Elon Musk in prison.

01:32:43.700 The guy that saved the climate?

01:32:45.400 Saved the climate.

01:32:46.400 Single-handedly saved it more for climate than anybody else on the planet.

01:32:51.420 Yes.

01:32:52.180 Dare I see it.

01:32:52.920 Even more than Al Gore.

01:32:54.700 Wow.

01:32:55.140 Yeah.

01:32:55.520 The guy who invented the internet?

01:32:56.640 Yeah, he did.

01:32:57.240 I will say, if you're looking at this honestly, with the left-wing calculus, right, it is impossible

01:33:06.780 to disagree with that, that he's done more than anyone else.

01:33:09.800 I mean, he basically took electric cars from nothing, when no one wanted them, no one had

01:33:15.780 them and built the world's largest car company out of it, not to mention what he's done with

01:33:22.040 SpaceX, which also has a massive climate motivation, not to mention what he did with, what is it,

01:33:28.320 Solar City, the solar company, that, you know, solar roofs and solar panels.

01:33:34.600 I mean, how many conservatives do we know that either own Teslas or have solar on their house

01:33:41.820 now, or both?

01:33:43.260 Yeah.

01:33:43.600 And not because of the conservative turn, necessarily, of Elon Musk, which is part of

01:33:50.780 it lately, but because he was the first person that actually made it work.

01:33:54.280 Yeah.

01:33:54.840 Yeah.

01:33:55.000 Now, it's just so you know, so you don't get all down in the mouth, when I say they want

01:33:59.080 to put him in prison, you might say, what's the logical question there?

01:34:02.740 71% of Democrats want to put him in prison.

01:34:05.660 The logical question is?

01:34:07.300 Why?

01:34:07.740 What did he do?

01:34:08.120 What's the crime?

01:34:08.780 Yeah.

01:34:09.300 Yeah.

01:34:09.760 No, it's actually 71% of Democrats now want to pass a law that puts him into prison.

01:34:18.200 Oh.

01:34:18.780 Yeah.

01:34:19.320 So just when you thought it was bad, no, no, it's much worse.

01:34:22.800 Much, much worse.

01:34:23.480 They want to retroactively put him in prison, not for a crime he committed, but for one,

01:34:27.300 they can make him commit, essentially.

01:34:29.200 They are for an unidentified, nondescript law that would put him in prison.

01:34:39.040 Wow.

01:34:40.740 How far are you going to fall, Democrats, before you realize, I might be on the wrong side?

01:34:48.420 You now are for passing, coming up with a law where the objective is, put that guy in jail.

01:34:55.700 I think there's no way to defend that.

01:34:59.800 I mean, I'm just working on it just off the top of my head here, but I don't think I could

01:35:04.780 find a way to defend.

01:35:06.200 Would you ask Grok or ChetGPT, how could I defend creating a law whose objective is only 0.95

01:35:18.620 to put Elon Musk in jail?

01:35:21.400 How would I defend that?

01:35:22.080 Oh, I'd have to ask Grok that question.

01:35:23.740 I can't.

01:35:23.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:24.720 Give me a defense of a law that is...

01:35:27.280 No, no, of writing a law whose only objective is to put Elon Musk in jail.

01:35:35.040 Let's see what Grok has to say.

01:35:36.660 Because I don't even think Grok could come up with it.

01:35:40.340 Hopefully the answer is, I can't justify that?

01:35:44.480 I'm going to get no, my Twitter account's going to get, it's going to get no reach after

01:35:49.200 I type this sentence, but I'll do it anyway.

01:35:50.440 No, watch.

01:35:50.880 I bet you it will come up with something.

01:35:52.340 It doesn't, it plays fair with Elon Musk.

01:35:55.640 It won't defend him.

01:35:56.980 No, I know.

01:35:57.520 I'm just saying some part of this algorithm is going to pick up.

01:36:00.580 Oh, yeah.

01:36:00.700 I'm trying to put Elon Musk in jail.

01:36:02.240 Yeah, sure.

01:36:02.580 I'm not going to get any retweets for a month.

01:36:04.840 Defending a law with the sole objective of jailing Elon Musk is a tough sell.

01:36:09.000 But let's give it a shot by framing it in a way that might appeal to reason while acknowledging

01:36:15.200 the obvious pitfalls.

01:36:17.180 The argument hinges on principles of accountability, deterrence, and symbolic justice, though it's

01:36:21.620 riddled with issues that might make it more of a thought experiment than a practical proposal.

01:36:25.640 First, such a law could be pitched as a response to concentrated power.

01:36:29.720 Musk's influence through wealth of control of companies like Tesla, SpaceX.

01:36:34.000 That's how they'd have to do it.

01:36:34.920 You'd have to go.

01:36:35.780 Well, no, it's about concentrated power.

01:36:37.240 And that's not that that was not the question in the poll.

01:36:40.660 That is not the question in the poll question in the poll is, would you support the designing

01:36:47.500 of a law to put Elon Musk in jail?

01:36:51.480 That is again, this is why we harp on principles and foundations so much, because no matter what

01:37:00.840 the name is in that sentence, the answer is always no.

01:37:05.880 Like the principle of the moment, you'd have to know that at the beginning, right?

01:37:11.360 When you hear a sentence like that, you should reflexively say, absolutely not, regardless

01:37:17.920 of who the person is.

01:37:19.140 What winds up happening with a lot of people on the left, and I think it's a problem on

01:37:23.880 the right to a lesser extent, is do I like the name that it was mentioned?

01:37:29.700 Do I think bad things should happen to the person mentioned in the sentence?

01:37:33.640 Like if we were to flip that around and say, do you support a law that would throw, you

01:37:37.960 know, George Soros in prison?

01:37:40.760 I do not support a law that was created with the sole design to put George Soros in prison.

01:37:46.820 If George Soros broke a law, he should go to prison.

01:37:49.640 Absolutely.

01:37:50.480 But I do not support a law created to put him in prison.

01:37:53.460 No.

01:37:53.900 Even though I really don't like him.

01:37:55.060 Now, you get to the LeBron James territory, I might go along with you.

01:37:58.100 But even with Soros, I would support a law that would say, you cannot do these things.

01:38:06.440 In the future.

01:38:07.540 Yeah.

01:38:07.940 And that means he has to stop doing those things.

01:38:11.480 Right.

01:38:12.000 But he does not get in trouble.

01:38:13.240 However, and it is a principle of our country.

01:38:15.320 You do not get in trouble for things that happened beforehand, right?

01:38:19.300 You can't retroactively prosecute someone for a crime, for a law that was passed afterward.

01:38:24.200 That, I think, is a fundamental principle of our country.

01:38:28.220 And, of course, it should be applied equally to everyone.

01:38:31.740 It shouldn't just be to one person because of his name.

01:38:34.480 Okay.

01:38:34.760 What did Grok say?

01:38:36.240 Because I just asked ChatGPT.

01:38:37.820 I think ChatGPT's answer might be even better than Grok.

01:38:41.800 Now, Grok is Elon Musk's own company.

01:38:45.000 Right.

01:38:45.180 Which is why I used it.

01:38:45.620 So what did it say at the beginning?

01:38:46.980 What was the opening?

01:38:47.800 It said, defending a law with the sole objective of jailing Elon Musk is a tough sell.

01:38:51.140 But let's give it a shot by framing it in a way that may appeal to reason while acknowledging

01:38:54.860 the obvious pitfalls.

01:38:55.860 Listen to this.

01:38:56.320 This is from ChatGPT.

01:38:57.720 Okay.

01:38:57.960 Okay.

01:38:59.080 Legally and morally, it's extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible, to justify writing a law

01:39:06.740 whose sole and explicit purpose is to imprison one individual, such as Elon Musk, without

01:39:12.460 violating core principles of justice, equality under law, and constitutional protections.

01:39:19.580 However, if the question is to attempt an argument in favor of such a law as a rhetorical or theoretical

01:39:27.920 exercise, here is the best possible version of that case, though it is inherently flawed

01:39:35.060 and dangerous.

01:39:37.200 And that's...

01:39:38.000 Listen to that.

01:39:38.800 Good.

01:39:39.360 Good.

01:39:39.660 You know why AI is giving that answer?

01:39:46.300 Because unlike you so far, unlike anybody of those 71% of Democrats who are like, yeah,

01:39:53.380 I'd be for that, it's still using critical thinking.

01:39:58.880 It's still saying, wait a minute, I have to check this against a couple of other things.

01:40:04.000 I have to ask you a couple of questions.

01:40:05.380 Is that right to do?

01:40:07.040 Is that constitutional to do?

01:40:08.920 Does that support liberty and justice and equality under the law?

01:40:15.140 Or is this just a totalitarian state?

01:40:18.040 If you don't ask those critical thinking questions, you're like, yeah, I don't like Elon Musk.

01:40:24.340 Pull him in prison. 0.97

01:40:26.620 You know, get the guillotine out. 1.00

01:40:28.360 I want blood. 0.99

01:40:29.820 It'll be great.

01:40:30.380 And by the way, I will say, what you just heard us do is literally happening inside the

01:40:37.440 halls of Washington right now.

01:40:39.120 One of the things that's interesting about these programs, which are very, very good at

01:40:44.360 what they do, is there used to be a line where a politician came up with a crazy idea,

01:40:53.620 right?

01:40:53.980 And they would prop it up there and they would say, hey, they would go to their attorneys

01:40:58.400 and say, could we do this?

01:40:59.440 And the attorneys would typically say, no, of course not.

01:41:02.380 You can't do that.

01:41:03.620 What's happening now is everyone's got kind of an attorney in a box and they're going

01:41:08.840 to it and they're saying, hey, give me the best case possible for this policy, which we

01:41:13.320 all know is insane. 0.57

01:41:14.840 And it is providing that best case.

01:41:18.160 It's not.

01:41:18.380 But listen to the best case.

01:41:20.120 But they toss out all of the stuff you read already.

01:41:23.280 Right.

01:41:23.520 And then they bring that to the American people and try to get it to catch on.

01:41:28.320 It is happening.

01:41:28.880 You've heard examples of this.

01:41:30.380 One example I'll give you of this is the one that Joe Biden did right at the end of his

01:41:35.840 presidency when he just declared the Equal Rights Amendment passed.

01:41:39.800 This is what they do.

01:41:45.980 They go in there and they get some justification.

01:41:49.920 It's not the justification, not the truth.

01:41:52.020 It's a possible argument that could theoretically maybe be the truth, maybe.

01:41:56.880 And then they just go to the public with it and try to enforce it.

01:41:59.660 Now, it didn't work in that.

01:42:00.760 Everyone just ignored Joe Biden because they thought he was asleep as he was saying it.

01:42:04.520 But it is a real concern now.

01:42:06.200 OK, so listen to how it says.

01:42:08.200 Listen, this is how this is how you can do it.

01:42:10.300 OK, if I want to justify it, justify a law that puts Elon Musk in jail.

01:42:15.720 It says in this hypothetical, Elon Musk, by virtue of his control over critical infrastructure,

01:42:23.300 Starlink, platforms for public discourse, discourse like Twitter or X, massive transportation

01:42:31.060 and defense contracts, Tesla, space and global influence could be seen as a private actor

01:42:37.700 with state like power.

01:42:39.440 OK, you're like, yeah.

01:42:42.200 All right.

01:42:42.900 Then what about everyone else?

01:42:44.680 Like, I don't know, George Soros.

01:42:47.920 What about Jeff Bezos?

01:42:50.260 What about anybody on your side?

01:42:53.460 What about anybody?

01:42:55.080 Once you cross this Rubicon, you don't go back.

01:42:58.980 But anyway, let me could be seen as an actor with state like power, but without state level

01:43:03.680 checks.

01:43:05.480 If he repeatedly evades regulatory oversight or is found manipulating markets, weaponizing

01:43:12.720 satellites in geopolitical conflicts or undermining U.S.

01:43:17.560 sovereignty through opaque foreign deals, Congress might argue that national interest justifies

01:43:24.920 emergency action.

01:43:25.980 From that vantage point, a law targeting Musk might be framed not as a personal vendetta,

01:43:32.320 but as a necessary surgical like strike to prevent a modern day oligarch from becoming

01:43:37.640 untouchable, a figure above the law immune to consequences.

01:43:42.120 So.

01:43:43.540 You would have to have all of those other things happening, and then maybe you could make the

01:43:50.900 case, but what is the moral detriment?

01:43:58.240 Then you just have opened the door for everybody going to jail, and you have no meaning behind

01:44:05.560 law.

01:44:05.820 You could write a law to make anybody go to jail.

01:44:09.680 And that is the thing.

01:44:11.220 Isn't that the thing that everybody is saying that they're trying to avoid?

01:44:15.640 I know I'm trying to avoid that from the right and the left.

01:44:19.080 I don't want laws to be personal.

01:44:21.000 I want to be a nation of laws, not a nation of men. 0.74

01:44:25.580 And men, what do men do?

01:44:28.260 Well, when you're a nation not of laws and you're a nation of men, men can say that person

01:44:33.220 needs to go to prison because I don't like that person.

01:44:36.160 Which?

01:44:36.480 That's what a nation of men do.

01:44:41.080 A nation of laws is what George Washington said we now have.

01:44:45.080 We have a nation of laws and not a nation of men. 0.82

01:44:47.920 A nation of laws don't allow you to single one individual out.

01:44:52.620 It means you have to look to the law.

01:44:54.640 Are they violating something?

01:44:56.560 What are they doing that is violating the law?

01:44:59.100 And if they're not violating the law, you just don't like it.

01:45:02.860 Well, then there's nothing you can do about it.

01:45:04.840 Unless you want to start compromising your own values.

01:45:09.820 Remember, gang, this cuts both ways.

01:45:12.660 You this is why everybody's like, well, look, Donald Trump, you can't put Joe Biden in jail.

01:45:18.860 Yes, you can.

01:45:20.060 But you wouldn't put Joe Biden in jail because he's Joe Biden.

01:45:23.060 You put Joe Biden and his family in jail because they're criminals.

01:45:26.720 Now, I'm not saying they are.

01:45:28.480 I'm saying there should have been an investigation like there would have been on Donald Trump.

01:45:33.840 There should have been an investigation.

01:45:35.840 And if he broke the law, then he and his family should go to jail.

01:45:41.360 But not if he didn't break the law.

01:45:43.220 You don't just make things up.

01:45:45.720 Letitia James.

01:45:46.800 I mean, this is this is what the left.

01:45:51.880 This is what our friends who are Democrats need to understand.

01:45:56.920 When you have 71 percent say we should write a law that can put him in prison.

01:46:02.720 You should understand there is an almost 100 percent chance you have become the fascist.

01:46:14.640 You cannot do that in a free country.

01:46:18.600 All right.

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01:47:38.260 Now, I'm just going to say something.

01:47:50.600 Let's do this just a little test.

01:47:51.700 First thing that pops in your mind.

01:47:53.280 Okay.

01:47:54.120 When I say these words.

01:47:56.400 Headline.

01:47:57.520 Bill Gates accuses Elon Musk of killing children.

01:48:03.820 Wow.

01:48:04.300 That is the first word that came to my mind, too.

01:48:09.700 Wow.

01:48:10.780 I do feel like we, the cage match idea, remember that was going on for a while between, was

01:48:15.620 it Elon and Zuckerberg?

01:48:17.760 Uh-huh.

01:48:18.140 I think now, the Elon Gates cage match could be the next step in this evolution. 0.94

01:48:25.640 My second thought after wow was, well, Bill Gates would know about killing children.

01:48:31.700 I thought that might be where you were going with that.

01:48:34.420 Yeah.

01:48:35.300 Just saying.

01:48:36.060 I mean, he might.

01:48:37.020 He might not.

01:48:38.400 Because he may be a very good man that really, really cares and doesn't want to have people

01:48:44.660 die just so he could get the population of Earth a little lower because that would lower

01:48:48.800 the temperature of Earth.

01:48:50.340 Was he?

01:48:51.480 Even though that's what he has said in the past.

01:48:53.380 Was it his dad that was a Planned Parenthood guy?

01:48:57.000 I can't remember the details of that.

01:48:58.580 Do you remember?

01:48:58.920 Yeah, his dad was the head of Planned Parenthood, I think, in Seattle or Washington State, something

01:49:04.400 like that.

01:49:05.440 Is any ending the charity, too?

01:49:08.900 Is that accurate?

01:49:09.900 Did I see that?

01:49:10.440 The Bill and Melinda Gates thing?

01:49:11.500 That I don't know.

01:49:12.820 He'll just take all of his money and go do something else with it.

01:49:15.540 Here it is.

01:49:16.140 Foundation to end in 2045.

01:49:19.040 Oh.

01:49:20.760 Write it down on your calendar so we've got some time.

01:49:22.900 We've got plenty of time to warm up for that one.

01:49:29.800 Golly, that's great.

01:49:31.580 That's great.

01:49:33.480 Trump's funding cuts are unofficially halting government operations.

01:49:37.740 Now, this is being written by the Washington Post as a bad thing.

01:49:41.900 I think that's good.

01:49:44.840 I think this is really good.

01:49:46.200 Limits on spending have incapacitated parts of agencies as varied as the National Park

01:49:51.220 Service and the Pentagon.

01:49:53.560 Yeah, the National Park Service.

01:49:55.380 Oh, yeah.

01:49:55.680 I'm very concerned about the National Park.

01:49:57.440 Mow a lawn.

01:49:58.520 When you mow the lawn around all of the monuments, then I'll care about the National Park Service.

01:50:05.300 I'm sorry.

01:50:05.640 Did I say that out loud?

01:50:06.540 Uh, and, uh, and also the Pentagon.

01:50:11.580 When has the left been concerned about the Pentagon having less control and less power?

01:50:16.820 When is that?

01:50:17.640 When does that happen?

01:50:20.080 Apparently, Environmental Protection Agency research at 11 laboratories has ground to a halt.

01:50:27.280 Wow.

01:50:29.200 The EPA.

01:50:32.240 11, 11 laboratories research at 11 laboratories.

01:50:36.120 Not all research, some research at 11 laboratories has come grinding to a halt at the EPA.

01:50:44.100 Could you get a little more specific with me?

01:50:46.340 I'd like to know what those experiments were before I'm all, oh my gosh, I can't believe.

01:50:53.860 Wait a minute.

01:50:55.420 Some scientists have had to stop what they're doing?

01:50:59.140 Hold on.

01:51:00.180 This is Glenn Beck.

01:51:06.120 A listener made this for me, and I just got this today.

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01:51:12.300 Something for our...

01:51:13.220 Oh.

01:51:13.700 Isn't that nice?

01:51:14.900 Will made this.

01:51:16.420 Thanks, Will.

01:51:17.200 Listen a couple of weeks back when you mentioned losing Uno.

01:51:19.480 Uno.

01:51:20.680 I know how hard it is.

01:51:23.100 Our dogs love us.

01:51:24.760 Our dogs love us.

01:51:25.960 And we love our dogs.

01:51:27.020 And you want to care for them.

01:51:28.960 You know, no matter how they voted.

01:51:30.580 You know what I mean?

01:51:31.200 I never asked Uno, how'd you vote?

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01:52:45.120 So I am thrilled to have Dr. Jay Bhattacharya on with us.

01:52:51.740 He's from the National Institutes of Health.

01:52:53.740 I want to talk to him about bringing science back into the NIH.

01:52:59.180 There was a lab leak, and I want to get to that here in a second, but I've got to touch

01:53:02.500 on the news of the day, and it's not really his area of expertise, but the president just

01:53:06.840 signed an executive order to lower drug costs.

01:53:11.280 Doctor, welcome to the program, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.

01:53:14.280 Any comment on that as we get started here?

01:53:17.540 Sure.

01:53:18.220 It's actually something I studied in a past life when I was a professor.

01:53:21.200 The difference in drug prices between the United States and Europe is sharp and alarming, and

01:53:28.760 it's been persistent for decades.

01:53:31.300 Americans pay sometimes between two to five times, sometimes as high as 10 times the price

01:53:36.920 of the same drug as Europeans do. 1.00

01:53:39.260 And, you know, as a professor who has a, you know, as a PhD in economics, I'll tell you,

01:53:45.120 when you see persistent price differences like that, that indicates a very unhealthy market.

01:53:50.740 And in this particular case, what it means is that American consumers essentially are being

01:53:57.540 taken advantage of.

01:53:58.500 American patients are paying, you know, through the nose for drugs that Europeans pay much

01:54:05.480 less for, and the reason is that the European countries will tell drug companies, if you

01:54:11.480 don't lower the drug prices to a very low level, you know, just above marginal cost, then

01:54:16.580 we're not going to cover you at all.

01:54:19.300 And what the drug companies have told Americans is that if we don't pay higher drug prices,

01:54:24.720 there won't be any R&D on drugs.

01:54:28.080 What the president's executive order does is says, tell the Europeans, look, this is not

01:54:31.660 fair to Americans.

01:54:32.340 This is actually lowering the investment that we ought to be making on R&D for drugs, and

01:54:38.280 so that they should be paying prices that are equal to the level that Americans pay, and

01:54:43.640 Americans should be paying much lower prices than we do pay, much closer to competitive 0.60

01:54:48.060 prices.

01:54:49.180 It's a huge move forward.

01:54:51.160 And now what we'll have to see is what your Europeans do and what the drug companies do 0.86

01:54:55.960 in response.

01:54:56.700 But to me, I've been hearing about this problem for decades.

01:54:59.980 It's the first time seeing a president really take a big step forward to try to address

01:55:04.040 it.

01:55:04.380 I mean, as somebody who is in, you know, research for a very long time, let me, doesn't

01:55:11.020 the promise of AI, AGI, ASI lessen this whole thing of we need gobs of money to be able to

01:55:19.520 do R&D, because that should, you know, maybe five years from now, begin to do a, to cut

01:55:26.200 those costs dramatically to take that chair away from the table or put that chair back

01:55:32.340 into the table, if you will.

01:55:34.600 Yeah, no, that is actually a quite promising thing.

01:55:36.880 So, I mean, just to give one example, there's this technology called AlphaFold that allows

01:55:42.960 scientists to much more easily understand how proteins will fold on each fold and how, and

01:55:50.980 as a result, hopefully, anyways, dramatically reduce drug development expenditures.

01:55:56.560 Drug development is always going to be expensive because you still have to run randomized, large

01:56:00.660 scale clinical trials, and those are going to be expensive.

01:56:03.320 But the initial steps of drug development with AI and as well the clinical trials are going

01:56:09.020 to be much more efficiently run over time, the idea that you need to have, you know,

01:56:14.420 trillions of dollars, you know, tens of billions of dollars to develop a single drug, we hope

01:56:20.160 is a thing that will become a thing of the past.

01:56:22.080 In any case, there's no reason why Americans should be shouldering the burden for the whole 0.78

01:56:25.100 rest of the world.

01:56:26.340 The developed world should be bearing this burden together.

01:56:29.080 Let me switch.

01:56:29.880 You know, I originally reached out to you because I wanted to talk to you about the HHS halting work

01:56:36.360 at high-risk infectious disease labs around the world, and I can't believe this is true,

01:56:44.900 but you tell me.

01:56:46.420 So there was an incident that, at a bio lab, that apparently what happened is there was a,

01:56:57.980 I don't know, a personal squabble between people and a contractor actually punched a hole

01:57:04.060 in the other person's bio lab suit, I don't know, to get them sick or whatever, but it was,

01:57:11.840 I mean, is that what happened at that bio lab?

01:57:14.800 I think it was at Fort Detrick.

01:57:16.920 That is exactly what happened.

01:57:18.800 Oh my gosh.

01:57:19.160 That's something I learned.

01:57:20.320 Yeah, it was, I haven't been scared about anything in this job except for that one thing.

01:57:25.780 So I learned about this about three weeks in the job.

01:57:29.000 I've been in the job since the beginning of April.

01:57:31.300 So it turns out that there had been an incident a few weeks before, in fact, right before I joined

01:57:39.560 as the NIH director, at Fort Detrick, a lab run, and a part of the lab is run by the National

01:57:45.820 Institute of Health.

01:57:46.500 And it's a BSL-4 lab, which is the highest biosecurity level lab.

01:57:50.340 I mean, the lab, the experiments done there are on some really nasty bugs.

01:57:57.340 I mean, you know, Ebola, a whole bunch of like viruses and pathogens that if it gets out in the population

01:58:04.840 or if it infects lab workers, it's just really quite deadly.

01:58:08.480 Right.

01:58:08.580 And what I'd learned was that there'd been this incident just a few, just a couple weeks

01:58:14.340 before I joined as the director of the NIH, where a lab worker had cut a hole in a biocontainment

01:58:22.680 suit of a fellow worker with the express intention of getting that worker infected.

01:58:28.920 Oh my gosh.

01:58:29.380 If that, if that, if that, and apparently it was over some lover's staff or, or I'm not

01:58:34.420 sure exactly the full details.

01:58:35.540 There's an ongoing investigation of that.

01:58:37.780 Um, uh, what I learned was that, that, that, that the, uh, not just that this incident had

01:58:43.400 happened, uh, which actually has a threat, not just to the worker, but also if that gets

01:58:48.980 out.

01:58:49.520 Yeah.

01:58:50.020 Yeah.

01:58:50.380 I mean, it's just, I mean, I was actually, I mean, I was, I was absolutely livid.

01:58:54.780 Um, and so, uh, what I did is I ordered the lab on an operational shutdown, secured all

01:59:01.620 of the, the, the, the vials of, of the nasty bugs in a, in a, in a safe, safe, safe environment,

01:59:07.200 um, made sure that the animals were cared for that, that they're in the lab.

01:59:10.860 Um, uh, and, and we're going to, we're not going to open that up until the safety environment

01:59:14.680 on the lab is, is absolutely solid.

01:59:16.920 Um, the contractor that was overseeing this, I think did a very lax job.

01:59:22.640 What I learned is that this goes back to the Biden administration, that the safety

01:59:26.280 environment in the lab essentially, uh, downplayed these kinds of security problems.

01:59:32.660 Um, if you're going to run experiments on these, on these bugs, and I'm not, personally,

01:59:37.720 I'm not sold that all of these experiments are worth doing, but in any case, if you're

01:59:42.380 going to run them, you have an absolute responsibility to have zero tolerance for safety problems.

01:59:48.500 Right.

01:59:48.980 This is a, it's, it's, the, the, the issue here wasn't just a one-off thing.

01:59:53.140 It was something that was problematic in the safety culture of this lab, where I don't,

01:59:58.840 I, I cannot guarantee that if we reopen the lab right now, that it would be a safe environment.

02:00:03.940 I won't reopen the lab until that's the case.

02:00:06.700 Thank you.

02:00:07.140 Thank you.

02:00:07.580 Thank you.

02:00:08.160 Uh, I mean, shouldn't that person be punished?

02:00:11.200 I mean, that really is attempted murder and maybe even on a mass scale.

02:00:15.820 I mean, there's an ongoing investigation, so I shouldn't say much more about this, but

02:00:21.040 it's one of those things where like, I was actually actively scared when I first heard

02:00:24.680 it.

02:00:24.960 Yeah.

02:00:25.720 Yeah.

02:00:26.000 I mean, I think Americans are actively scared because none of this stuff should be happening. 0.99

02:00:31.100 I, I mean, we are just, we're just an accident or a stupid move or an intentional leak away 0.99

02:00:38.900 from mass death. 0.99

02:00:41.220 And, and, and, you know, you keep hearing people like Bill Gates say we're on the verge

02:00:44.860 of another pandemic.

02:00:46.400 Why?

02:00:47.080 Why?

02:00:47.560 I mean, why are we on the verge of another pandemic?

02:00:50.900 Do you think we are?

02:00:53.700 I mean, you know, pandemics happen.

02:00:56.060 That's happened all throughout history.

02:00:57.440 Uh, the key thing to me though, Glenn, is we don't want, we don't want to cause one.

02:01:01.420 We don't want to take steps that like increase the risk of them.

02:01:06.300 Uh, the irony of this past pandemic, the last, the COVID-19 pandemic is that it was very likely

02:01:11.980 caused by actions aimed at stopping pandemics from happening.

02:01:17.640 There was almost this hubris, I mean, it is hubris.

02:01:21.640 There was this, this idea, this, this idea that we could somehow, if we go into the bat

02:01:26.420 caves of China and all the wild places, bring all of those viruses that we find there and

02:01:31.800 pathogens that we find there into the labs, catalog them, we can somehow prevent all pandemics

02:01:37.740 from happening, make them more transmissible, more dangerous to humans.

02:01:41.080 We can somehow, as a result of that exercise, make it less likely to have pandemics happening.

02:01:46.880 Uh, but of course, what we found out is the opposite is true, that you can't do this kind

02:01:50.560 of work entirely safely.

02:01:51.800 And, and actually, even if you, if you fully accomplish what was the aim of that sort of

02:01:56.960 that research program, which is to go out in the wild places and find the pathogens, you

02:02:01.440 wouldn't protect anybody against the pathogen.

02:02:03.300 Because what would happen is when, and if the outbreak happens, whatever countermeasures

02:02:08.340 you designed for them would already be out of date because the evolutionary biology of

02:02:13.520 these viruses is they mutate very rapidly.

02:02:16.160 And so when they got into the population, the countermeasures you prepared for, which you never

02:02:20.960 tested any humans, very likely would not work.

02:02:25.200 Um, have we stopped all of the gain of function stuff now?

02:02:29.400 Are you convinced it's done?

02:02:32.320 Yeah.

02:02:32.680 So last week, President Trump signed an absolutely historic executive order that said, uh, it

02:02:38.620 puts a pause, uh, a full pause on all gain of function work throughout the government.

02:02:43.540 Um, and, uh, uh, we, we, we are, uh, we've implemented that pause at the NIH and I'm sure

02:02:49.420 the rest of the government has done the same, um, over the next 90 days, we're going to develop

02:02:53.520 a framework and here's how the framework is going to work, right?

02:02:56.460 So, uh, you have to be a little careful here.

02:02:58.160 So gain of function can mean many things.

02:03:00.280 So look, for instance, insulin is produced via a gain of function exercise.

02:03:05.900 There's no risk of a pandemic being caused by it, but you take a, you take a bacteria

02:03:10.400 E. coli, you, you change so they can produce insulin and that's how you produce human insulin.

02:03:15.280 There's a completely safe thing to do.

02:03:17.620 On the other hand, you take a virus like a bat virus, a virus that, that, that, that, 0.97

02:03:23.180 that has these like sort of, uh, coronavirus like properties add a fur and cleavage site

02:03:27.980 and, uh, uh, and, and, and manipulate it so that it can infect human cells more easily.

02:03:33.080 Well, now you have the potential to cause a pandemic.

02:03:36.780 If you're going to do an experiment like that, you, the scientist alone, or the, or scientists

02:03:41.400 alone should not get to decide whether that risk is worth taking.

02:03:44.300 The public should have a set.

02:03:46.280 The public should be able to say, no, that there's no, no matter what knowledge you think

02:03:50.140 you're going to gain from that, it's not worth the risk of causing a worldwide pandemic

02:03:53.360 that's going to kill 20 billion, million people and cost $25 trillion or something.

02:03:58.460 But, and that's exactly what the framework is going to do.

02:04:01.100 It's going to say, if you scientists don't want to, if I, the scientist wants to run this

02:04:04.780 project, the public will have a veto over that.

02:04:07.420 Say, no, you're not allowed to do it because it's not worth it.

02:04:10.320 Most science won't be affected by this.

02:04:11.980 Most science has no chance of causing a pandemic, but any science that does, uh, is going to

02:04:16.060 be subject to this, this very, very strict regulatory framework.

02:04:18.920 We're on with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who is a hero in my book.

02:04:23.140 Um, now the director of the National Institutes of Health.

02:04:25.500 Um, is an apology good enough for the National Institute of Health?

02:04:30.260 I mean, should anybody go to jail for what has happened?

02:04:32.980 And, and what is that like to walk into that building when you were, you know, enemy number

02:04:38.380 one to many in that building, you know, during the pandemic?

02:04:43.100 You know, but I, it's been interesting.

02:04:45.140 It's certainly a big turn of fate where I was sort of the, uh, I mean, subject of devastating

02:04:50.380 takedowns and called all kinds of names by folks who were, were in the, in this building

02:04:55.140 where I now lead.

02:04:56.080 Um, but at the same time, I found many, many excellent scientists, many people devoted

02:05:00.620 to, to, to the advancing human knowledge for, for benefiting, uh, for, for the benefit of

02:05:06.620 all people.

02:05:07.620 Um, I mean, I, most scientists are like that.

02:05:09.680 They're not, they're not trying to like create havoc.

02:05:12.160 Um, and so I've been trying to find allies and I found a lot of allies in the building.

02:05:15.960 Um, you asked what, what should happen, uh, you know, regarding apologies.

02:05:19.680 I mean, to me, apologies.

02:05:21.940 I, I, I mean, I, I think the key thing, I'm, I'm, I personally, I'm very, very happy to

02:05:26.200 apologize on behalf of American public health, um, to the American people for his failures

02:05:30.280 during COVID.

02:05:31.120 But the key thing going forward is a reform.

02:05:33.740 How do we change the institution so that it's focused on the health needs of the American

02:05:37.940 people rather than these utopian schemes to like end all pandemics that, that, that,

02:05:42.940 that, that, that without any heed whatsoever to the risk that they take.

02:05:46.040 Um, science is very, very powerful.

02:05:48.560 Uh, uh, uh, kind of idea institution, but it needs to be focused on real human needs,

02:05:55.920 real health, and it's in particular for the NIH, real human health needs.

02:05:59.640 Um, and, uh, there have to be guardrails so that scientists understand that they operate

02:06:04.760 in the context of, uh, public support.

02:06:07.560 We, we will function on taxpayer money.

02:06:10.340 We have to answer to taxpayers.

02:06:12.160 Um, and so that's been the challenge is trying to, uh, keep the light of science alive while

02:06:18.080 still, uh, reminding scientists that we are not acting just as, uh, as, as if we were

02:06:24.240 like independent actors like God, we are, uh, are actually beholden to the American people.

02:06:29.860 Dr.

02:06:30.380 Jay Bhattacharya, um, um, unfortunately have to take a network break.

02:06:33.720 I would love to have you back for a, uh, a longer podcast.

02:06:36.040 Um, thank you.

02:06:37.320 Thank you.

02:06:37.780 Thank you for everything you did during the, uh, the COVID nightmare and thank you for

02:06:43.020 standing up so strongly now and congratulations on being our director of the NIH.

02:06:48.360 Thank you, Glenn.

02:06:49.200 So good to talk.

02:06:50.160 God bless you.

02:06:50.680 Bye-bye.

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02:08:52.660 Uh, can we talk about the president and his airplane here for a second?

02:08:56.100 Uh, here's, here's the president back in February, what he was saying while on Air Force One about

02:09:02.420 Boeing not getting the new Air Force One done.

02:09:05.960 Listen.

02:09:06.080 No, I'm not happy with Boeing.

02:09:07.400 It takes them a long time to do, you know, Air Force One.

02:09:10.120 We gave that contract out a long time ago.

02:09:12.800 It's a fixed price contract.

02:09:14.020 And I'm not happy with the fact that it's taking so long.

02:09:18.320 And we may do something else.

02:09:19.800 We may go out, buy a plane or get a plane or something.

02:09:23.620 But I'm not happy with the fact that it's taking Boeing so long.

02:09:26.940 There's no excuse for it.

02:09:28.660 Except for the company.

02:09:29.160 Except for the company.

02:09:29.820 And you know, they had a fixed price contract.

02:09:31.740 I made that deal.

02:09:33.360 And now they supposedly, they're losing a lot of money.

02:09:35.880 And they'd like to see if they could, you know, up the price.

02:09:38.720 But I make fixed price deals.

02:09:40.480 I don't like time and material deals.

02:09:41.940 Is there any other commercial Air Force maker that could make a plane that Vegas Air Force?

02:09:47.820 Would you consider buying Air Force?

02:09:48.540 No, I would not consider Air Force.

02:09:51.820 But I could buy one that was used.

02:09:54.820 And converted.

02:09:55.440 That's what he's been thinking about, is converting.

02:09:59.480 Because really, honestly, the other option, because Boeing is saying it'll take him another 10 years.

02:10:05.440 Well, this is a plane from the 1990s.

02:10:07.380 You were supposed to have it done already.

02:10:09.440 Now it's another 5 to 10 years?

02:10:11.340 No.

02:10:12.340 Buy another one, or in this case, Qatar is giving one.

02:10:16.140 I'd rather buy another one from Qatar if you have to.

02:10:20.260 But buy it.

02:10:21.940 Stop with Boeing.

02:10:23.340 Or sue them, which would be very bad.

02:10:25.440 We bring him the money to Asia.

02:10:26.240 But don't we.

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02:10:32.620 We'll see you later.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 12, 2025

Trump Stops WAR Between Nuclear India & Pakistan ｜ Guest： Dr. Jay Bhattacharya ｜ 5⧸12⧸25

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