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00:03:10.460 Well, hello, Stu.

00:03:11.800 How are you?

00:03:13.500 I'm very well, Glenn.

00:03:14.800 Everything's wonderful.

00:03:15.860 Good.

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00:03:16.660 Good.

00:03:16.800 Everything is good when you're part of the team.

00:03:18.520 You know?

00:03:19.560 You should write that down.

00:03:20.900 We should make a song out of that.

00:03:22.240 That's a fantastic idea.

00:03:24.800 Welcome to the program.

00:03:26.200 I was in Virginia Beach last night.

00:03:28.460 I got home at about 2 o'clock in the morning.

00:03:30.780 Flew in, gave a speech, flew out.

00:03:32.420 I wish I could have stayed longer.

00:03:34.240 It was an amazing event.

00:03:37.060 Started by this woman, Donica Hudson, that is, she thought,

00:03:42.540 we should do a covenant.

00:03:45.100 Because didn't we do those in the old days?

00:03:47.900 And they did one in Virginia Beach last night.

00:03:51.780 And it was, it's amazing how everybody thinks they're powerless.

00:03:58.920 Everybody thinks, I can't do that.

00:04:00.700 I don't know.

00:04:01.400 Here's just a woman, exactly what Billy Graham told me would happen.

00:04:05.880 Here's just a woman who did her thing.

00:04:09.580 She didn't really know what she was doing.

00:04:11.660 She didn't even know really what a covenant really was.

00:04:14.700 And she started feeling this and researching it.

00:04:20.540 And she's like, I should do something.

00:04:22.280 And she put it together.

00:04:24.260 And it happened last night.

00:04:25.880 And I think it's the beginning of something.

00:04:27.740 I think there's a big God movement that is coming.

00:04:33.560 And it was an honor to be there last night and hold their arms up,

00:04:37.480 play Aaron to their Moses.

00:04:40.420 It was really a positive thing.

00:04:44.720 I'm telling you, if we just change our attitude

00:04:49.680 and we start looking at things differently

00:04:53.140 and realize we're all God's children,

00:04:57.620 even the people who are trying to persecute us,

00:05:00.640 they're God's kids too.

00:05:03.440 And just like any parent, he wants all of us back.

00:05:06.660 We're not fighting with each other.

00:05:09.040 We're fighting evil right now.

00:05:11.580 And, oh, evil is pretty darn strong.

00:05:15.560 I don't know if you've seen this,

00:05:17.740 but let me just give you a couple of things

00:05:20.860 that have happened.

00:05:27.440 Oregon has its Right to Rest Act.

00:05:31.980 It's going to let homeless people

00:05:34.180 treat tents on public sidewalks as a private residence.

00:05:39.100 And if you harass them at all or disturb them at all,

00:05:43.100 you can get $1,000.

00:05:44.860 I mean, they can get $1,000.

00:05:46.780 They can sue you for $1,000

00:05:48.160 if they claim you are harassing them.

00:05:51.200 They're, again, on a public sidewalk.

00:05:54.480 But for some reason, Oregon is like,

00:05:56.740 yeah, you can build your house there.

00:05:58.260 I mean, it's only a tent.

00:06:00.780 What?

00:06:02.160 I talked to a reporter yesterday who went to Portland

00:06:05.080 and was covering all the downfall of Portland.

00:06:09.560 Yeah.

00:06:10.000 And was talking to people who had tents in these tent cities

00:06:16.260 that were given to them by the city.

00:06:19.620 It's crazy.

00:06:20.060 Some of these organizations are just putting empty tents up

00:06:24.880 to try to invite people to come.

00:06:27.880 Yeah.

00:06:28.160 Cities, other cities from around the area

00:06:30.440 are buying bus tickets for people.

00:06:32.300 Why wouldn't you?

00:06:32.940 Why wouldn't you?

00:06:33.540 Why wouldn't you?

00:06:34.240 They want everybody to live on the streets.

00:06:36.560 Yeah.

00:06:36.780 There you go.

00:06:37.800 I mean, might as well go there.

00:06:38.840 It won't be our problem anymore.

00:06:39.940 It's really sad.

00:06:41.500 Here's another thing.

00:06:42.580 I didn't know Mother's Day was controversial.

00:06:45.440 I mean, to me, it is.

00:06:47.500 Because, you know why, Woodrow Wilson.

00:06:50.620 He's the one who started it.

00:06:53.100 So he started Mother's Day.

00:06:55.420 So it's always controversial to me.

00:06:57.300 But other than unless you're in the

00:07:02.000 I'm almost insane with my hatred for Woodrow Wilson category.

00:07:07.120 Which is like four people.

00:07:08.380 Yeah.

00:07:08.880 You don't really have a problem with Mother's Day.

00:07:12.120 But corporate America does.

00:07:13.480 Uh, apparently, uh, apparently, uh, some companies are sending out a note

00:07:21.160 saying Mother's Day is a sensitive time and a challenging time or a difficult time.

00:07:28.380 And we invite you to opt out of our emails that are related to Mother's Day if it triggers you.

00:07:36.820 What?

00:07:39.380 What?

00:07:40.080 What?

00:07:41.080 By the way, thank you, corporate America, for reminding me that my mom died when I was very young.

00:07:47.820 You've just triggered me.

00:07:49.720 Well, like, you'd be the perfect example of someone who could theoretically be triggered.

00:07:53.980 But, like, I think it's always been expected for you as a member of society to be able to get through that on your own.

00:08:00.680 Yeah, no, not anymore.

00:08:02.640 Not anymore.

00:08:03.440 You, nobody can disturb you.

00:08:05.800 Whether you're in your tent in the middle of the sidewalk or, you know, you're reading the emails.

00:08:15.940 Somebody has to remind you that your mother is now dead.

00:08:19.420 Okay?

00:08:20.300 You bring up Mother's Day and that's all I think of is my mother died when I was 15.

00:08:25.460 And it still triggers me because I'm weak and pathetic.

00:08:31.980 Okay.

00:08:32.880 Other than that, let's see what else has gone on.

00:08:36.440 Oh, there's some really, really exciting news.

00:08:41.160 The energy secretary, Granholm, she yesterday said, we are going to make the military all electric by 2030.

00:08:50.920 Yeah.

00:08:51.740 Play this clip.

00:08:52.680 It's great.

00:08:53.180 Do you support the military adopting that EV fleet by 2030?

00:08:58.600 I do.

00:08:59.040 And I think we can get there as well.

00:09:00.740 And I do think that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally traded fossil fuels,

00:09:06.560 where we know that global events such as the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home.

00:09:12.140 She is exactly right.

00:09:13.400 Because remember all the charging stations that were in Iraq?

00:09:17.700 They are literally everywhere, you know?

00:09:23.120 And, you know, if you take down the power grid or something in a country because you're fighting it,

00:09:29.960 you just want to make sure that you have that always renewable source of electricity to plug your Jeep in for four hours.

00:09:40.180 But then you can just keep on fighting.

00:09:42.580 This is a really, really good idea.

00:09:45.160 I'm excited to see how this works out for us.

00:09:49.640 You know, but it's different in Afghanistan.

00:09:52.520 They don't have the charging stations.

00:09:54.100 But I understand you can plug your Jeep right into the ass of a sheep and you get all of the power you need.

00:10:00.860 You do need the adapter, though.

00:10:02.160 You do?

00:10:02.580 Yeah, you can't just use any plug.

00:10:04.740 You've got to have the sheep adapter.

00:10:06.400 Yeah.

00:10:07.000 Okay.

00:10:07.420 Or it won't work.

00:10:08.020 All right.

00:10:08.580 And she also went on to say, electric vehicles are quiet.

00:10:13.240 What is that?

00:10:14.200 So we can sneak up on people more?

00:10:16.960 Wait.

00:10:18.380 What?

00:10:19.740 Wait, so she's arguing, though, of course, that, like, using gas because it's dependent on an international market makes the price volatile.

00:10:28.980 Of course, you are going into a country that you are trying to take over and you know what it's like when you're at war and you're expecting to plug your cars in meaning your tanks.

00:10:44.000 You're just saying, like, our military.

00:10:47.200 Is that what she's talking about?

00:10:48.540 You're saying she they're talking now about our domestic military fleet.

00:10:53.880 Right.

00:10:54.020 But they want to change the entire military into electric vehicles.

00:11:01.580 That's I mean, if that's true, this is crazy.

00:11:06.100 I think you just pop the solar panels right on the back of the of the tank.

00:11:10.100 I just say we just, you know, no war.

00:11:13.140 I just say we just.

00:11:14.220 Oh, yeah.

00:11:14.620 What if we stop?

00:11:15.420 Oh, we just ban all war.

00:11:17.960 Decimate our military so we can't do anything.

00:11:19.920 Yes.

00:11:20.400 Thank you.

00:11:20.880 Perfect.

00:11:21.140 Thank you, Stu.

00:11:22.760 Thank you.

00:11:23.420 Thank you.

00:11:24.000 Thank you.

00:11:25.480 OK, let me give you a couple of other things here.

00:11:27.940 Just think it's good to know that Vermont school district is now no longer using the term male or female, which I think is good.

00:11:38.620 I think it's good.

00:11:40.280 They've come up with something better.

00:11:42.200 They cannot say male, female, boy or girl instead.

00:11:48.160 And I don't think this is going to make kids uncomfortable at all.

00:11:52.100 You are a person who produces sperm or a person that produces eggs.

00:11:59.280 OK, so I don't think that that's demeaning.

00:12:05.240 I don't think that is.

00:12:08.100 I mean, I'm glad we're finally getting rid of male and female because they're so outdated.

00:12:15.160 You know, when I think of a male, I just think, hey, that sperm producer over there.

00:12:21.260 He's fantastic.

00:12:23.100 You know, whoa.

00:12:24.440 Can you imagine the egg she's making right now?

00:12:27.040 She's practically a chicken.

00:12:29.140 It's fantastic.

00:12:30.960 It's fan.

00:12:32.960 Fantastic.

00:12:34.720 It is an interesting thing.

00:12:36.620 You see over and over again, they are so confused as to what their messaging is.

00:12:41.880 Right.

00:12:42.140 They're so we saw this with the Pete Buttigieg clip.

00:12:45.200 We were talking about a little bit before the year before we came on the air where he's

00:12:48.820 been talking about female crash test dummies.

00:12:51.540 And, you know, this is he's been mocked by the right.

00:12:54.420 No.

00:12:54.860 You know, he looks silly.

00:12:56.180 You know, this is his big priority to have female crash test dummies.

00:12:59.900 You know, the world's on fire.

00:13:01.180 Right.

00:13:01.920 But let's get the female crash test dummies as a priority.

00:13:05.020 And that is a completely legitimate point to mock him on.

00:13:08.360 Right.

00:13:08.580 Of course, he's he's so meaningless and everything he's doing is a giant zilch.

00:13:13.940 Right.

00:13:14.240 Like, that's kind of what you'd say.

00:13:15.600 But back off from this for a second.

00:13:17.520 Back off of just the mockery of Pete Buttigieg.

00:13:20.380 It's going to be hard.

00:13:21.200 It's going to be hard.

00:13:21.700 It's going to be very hard.

00:13:22.620 Come on.

00:13:23.000 Because you gave me the whole you didn't just leave it at crash test dummies.

00:13:26.380 You gave me the whole Pete Buttigieg category.

00:13:29.580 Yes.

00:13:29.800 I can't mock him for at least a minute here.

00:13:33.140 Just a moment for just a moment.

00:13:34.880 Just a moment.

00:13:35.200 I want to take you on the scenic route here.

00:13:37.140 I believe every moment is an important moment, especially this moment and other moments in time.

00:13:43.540 OK.

00:13:43.980 And we should recognize our moments in time.

00:13:46.280 In time.

00:13:46.900 That's true.

00:13:48.400 I actually do think there should be female crash test dummies.

00:13:53.140 And I know you might say, well, who cares?

00:13:55.660 Sure.

00:13:56.280 But there is a reason for it.

00:13:57.920 Really?

00:13:58.320 And it's interesting to think about what that reason would be.

00:14:01.040 Which is?

00:14:01.940 Women are different than men.

00:14:05.040 So, yes, when you're testing seat belts or safety features in cars, it is valuable to have female crash test dummies.

00:14:13.160 Wow.

00:14:13.540 Because.

00:14:14.240 Hold it.

00:14:14.640 Because it's important to note the actual biological sex of a person because they are different than the other biological sex.

00:14:23.860 And, yes, there are two of them.

00:14:26.380 Yeah, the one that produces sperm and the one that produces eggs.

00:14:29.500 No, men and women.

00:14:31.280 So, yeah, you know what?

00:14:32.700 It does make some sense.

00:14:33.760 But why, Pete, do you think it makes sense to have female crash test dummies?

00:14:38.660 Well, you say you could just identify as the other sex.

00:14:41.300 Listen, I am not a scientist, OK?

00:14:44.820 So, I can't tell you the difference between a female crash test dummy or a male crash test dummy.

00:14:53.420 It's true.

00:14:53.860 But I think we should spend a lot of time and money just thinking about those and being able to.

00:15:01.200 Can you please describe a female crash?

00:15:04.380 No, I can't.

00:15:05.560 How would he describe it?

00:15:06.720 How would he know how to produce a female crash test dummy?

00:15:10.120 He knows seemingly nothing about the species at all.

00:15:13.840 So, let me ask you, if men could become women, then don't we already have female crash test dummies?

00:15:21.900 Right.

00:15:22.200 Just put men in there and just say they identify as women.

00:15:24.640 And then you'd know everything you'd need to know.

00:15:26.340 Right, Pete?

00:15:27.440 Amen, brother.

00:15:28.620 See, we've solved yet another of the world's problems today.

00:15:33.140 And we did it in 20 minutes, OK?

00:15:35.880 Let me take a 60-second break because that was a lot of heavy lifting.

00:15:39.660 Real estate agents I trust is a company of mine that I started with my brother and mainly out of our frustration because we've had bad real estate agents before.

00:15:50.660 And neither of us knew how to find a good real estate agent.

00:15:54.240 So, I started doing business with the 500 best real estate agents in the country, according to the Wall Street Journal.

00:16:04.480 They published this list.

00:16:05.920 And I started getting to know these guys.

00:16:08.060 And I was asking them, you know, how do I know if you're good?

00:16:11.280 How do you interview?

00:16:14.060 And I learned an awful lot.

00:16:17.320 And so, we started our own company that does all of that for you.

00:16:21.620 We go and we look for the best real estate agents out there that will help you close fast, sell fast, sell for the right amount of money, the least hassle, and can help you with your move across the street or across the country.

00:16:36.740 And real estate agents also that are cut from your same cloth, most of them are big fans of the show.

00:16:44.500 So, you already have something in common.

00:16:47.160 Yeah.

00:16:47.580 And I like it this way.

00:16:48.780 Me.

00:16:49.700 Make it all about me.

00:16:51.920 Me, me, me, me, me, me.

00:16:53.420 Oh, I want to sell my house.

00:16:55.040 Talk about me, OK?

00:16:58.340 Sometimes my humility is so hard to take.

00:17:03.460 Realestateagentsitrust.com.

00:17:04.680 That's realestateagentsitrust.com.

00:17:07.820 Ten seconds.

00:17:08.420 Station ID.

00:17:18.340 I keep thinking about corporate media reminding me that my mother is dead.

00:17:28.200 OK, I'm over it.

00:17:30.360 I don't know if you heard the news.

00:17:32.080 Elon Musk has suspended an account.

00:17:36.340 Censorship.

00:17:37.320 Censorship.

00:17:37.940 This is all he wants to do.

00:17:39.060 OK.

00:17:39.500 What is he censoring this time?

00:17:41.200 Is this some political view he doesn't like?

00:17:43.740 Yes.

00:17:44.060 Yeah.

00:17:44.280 Yeah.

00:17:44.880 Happy Alice Day.

00:17:47.060 Now, most human beings will go, happy what?

00:17:50.820 Alice Day?

00:17:51.720 Yeah.

00:17:52.140 Alice Day.

00:17:52.700 The waitress from the 70s and 80s TV show?

00:17:55.900 Happy Alice Day to those who celebrate.

00:17:59.160 OK.

00:17:59.520 I don't know anybody that has ever said anything about Alice and her day.

00:18:04.920 OK.

00:18:06.560 He said, I figured, why not use today to unveil the yap flag?

00:18:13.660 The yap flag?

00:18:16.040 Yap flag.

00:18:16.740 Now, I thought that was some sort of an animal over in the Middle East, but it's not.

00:18:21.020 OK.

00:18:21.780 Those are yaks.

00:18:24.220 The yap flag is the youth attracted person's pride flag.

00:18:31.920 Uh-oh.

00:18:32.260 And it was designed almost a year ago.

00:18:36.120 I wanted to stray from the oft-used horizontal bars motif, but only a little.

00:18:42.880 I wanted to retain some familiarity.

00:18:46.540 And so the yap flag is now out, and I am proudly flying it at other people's houses and

00:18:54.500 then calling the cops on them.

00:18:55.900 It is fun.

00:18:58.160 Anyway, how dare you say that?

00:19:00.400 Like, pedophilia is a problem.

00:19:03.080 I don't know a single parent that doesn't say, man, I wish my kid could have some creepy

00:19:08.480 neighbor come over and just sexualize them.

00:19:11.420 Right?

00:19:12.020 Am I right?

00:19:13.540 So he deleted that tweet, and he says, yeah, pedophilia, not tolerated on the platform.

00:19:21.920 So it wasn't the yap guy that deleted the tweet.

00:19:24.900 It was Elon Musk stepping in and saying, hey, not huge fans of pedophiles here.

00:19:29.160 He's like, I don't know who Alice is, but if Alice is for the yap flag, I don't think we

00:19:34.920 want Alice to have an account here.

00:19:37.280 So she can keep her day and she can, you know, celebrate herself far away from children, preferably

00:19:45.440 in prison.

00:19:46.980 It's a great place, especially this time of year for pedophiles.

00:19:50.240 Oh, they're going to love it.

00:19:52.060 They're going to love it.

00:19:54.400 So it's interesting to me how much evil there is in America right now.

00:20:02.480 You know, and that's, it gives me, it gives me a lot of hope, honestly, because we win.

00:20:10.820 You know, it's like, it's, it's, it's really like evil and Satan thinks it's going to win.

00:20:18.560 And it's like, yeah, yeah, I got a yap flag.

00:20:22.580 Okay.

00:20:23.100 And I didn't even come up with that.

00:20:24.920 That was, that was Americans that came up with that one.

00:20:27.700 I didn't have to use any of my demon diabolical powers.

00:20:31.400 They came up with that.

00:20:32.980 It's fantastic.

00:20:34.280 It's like every crappy James Bond villain.

00:20:36.800 Like they always think they're going to win.

00:20:38.540 They've got the perfect plan.

00:20:39.880 And it's like, they're doing this.

00:20:41.840 And you know, that point where it's always like James Bond or just some kind of crappy

00:20:47.860 villain where the guy who is the superhero and they're just like, but you know, I could

00:20:55.120 kill you now, but I'm going to walk over here and do something else for a while that we're

00:21:00.960 entering that point.

00:21:02.320 They're so arrogant that we're entering a point to where they don't understand us.

00:21:09.460 They, they don't, they don't get it at all.

00:21:12.900 They don't realize that they're in the minority.

00:21:15.640 And when you wake this sleeping giant, that that's, that's the moment where you're off.

00:21:24.380 We're going to kill you, but I'm going to kill you later.

00:21:28.640 So I, cause I got a meeting or something I got to do, and I'm going to make sure that

00:21:32.900 nobody's watching you so you can escape if you want.

00:21:36.260 But if you don't, I'm coming back to kill you.

00:21:39.640 That's I think what's coming.

00:21:41.860 It's Billy Graham told me once, he said, it's like the Lord is, uh, planning a surprise

00:21:49.620 party and he's not going to use any of the famous people or anything else.

00:21:53.220 He's going to use average people and they just have to do what they hear in their heart

00:21:58.540 to do.

00:21:59.240 Just stand there with your piece and you're going to feel really stupid about your piece.

00:22:03.120 And you're like, this is not going to change anything.

00:22:04.680 You just stand there.

00:22:06.000 He said, and then the Lord will walk in, turn on the lights.

00:22:09.600 Satan will be, Satan will be walking through the door and, uh, the Lord will just say,

00:22:17.480 Hey, surprise.

00:22:21.740 That's what's coming.

00:22:23.180 That's what's coming.

00:22:24.740 But in the meantime, until that time, make sure you get your yap flag, Alice.

00:22:29.840 The Glenn Beck program.

00:22:42.420 So it's been a couple hours yesterday with the pre-born people.

00:22:46.080 They, this is such a good bunch of people.

00:22:49.360 So great.

00:22:49.880 They're so great.

00:22:51.200 Um, they're really simple people.

00:22:53.420 And I got to tell you, they're like, all of them are like, yeah, I'm really not the guy

00:22:58.200 to stand up against this.

00:22:59.960 This is really not like me, but we just felt compelled to do it.

00:23:05.080 And, and they are changing the world.

00:23:07.500 They really are.

00:23:08.580 They have, to me, what makes them different is they have figured out the way to get to

00:23:14.720 women's hearts because I think they all know, but once they see the ultrasound and they hear

00:23:22.240 the heartbeat, it's just confirmed and it seals the deal.

00:23:26.080 And they usually don't abort the child.

00:23:28.620 If that happens, that's why Planned Parenthood doesn't have any ultrasound machines.

00:23:33.140 Uh, and everybody in the democratic party fights against that, that horrible ultrasound

00:23:39.560 that they're forcing women to have pre-born just provides it and then provides so much

00:23:44.980 care for the mom and the child for like two years after birth dial pound two 50, help them

00:23:51.120 out.

00:23:51.360 Use the keyword baby pound two 50, or go to preborn.com slash back and go to blaze tv.com slash

00:23:58.800 Glenn to subscribe to blaze TV more important than ever.

00:24:01.260 Get 20 bucks off with the promo code question everything.

00:24:09.560 Right.

00:24:27.520 You just said to Stu, Hey, Stu, what was the name of that big report that we were waiting

00:24:34.200 to come out?

00:24:35.300 Right.

00:24:35.940 And then it never came out.

00:24:37.760 Yeah, I believe we're still waiting.

00:24:39.800 I mean, it comes out in dribs and drabs, but we're still waiting for the final report.

00:24:43.300 I can't even remember the name of that report now.

00:24:47.580 Okay.

00:24:48.360 And everybody was like, wait until the Higgins report is finished.

00:24:55.340 Do you, anybody on the staff even remember?

00:24:57.640 Do you remember Sarah?

00:24:58.780 What was it?

00:25:01.280 Durham, the Durham, the Durham report.

00:25:03.780 Right.

00:25:04.000 Yeah.

00:25:04.520 Yes.

00:25:05.060 Yeah.

00:25:05.400 The Durham report.

00:25:06.260 I think I could remember more of bull Durham than the Durham report and what it was supposed

00:25:14.000 to show.

00:25:15.080 It's amazing how these things get buried.

00:25:17.480 And there's another, this is such a huge story.

00:25:20.880 This is so much bigger than Watergate.

00:25:24.600 What's happening now with the ex-CIA spy that wanted to stop Donald Trump from being president

00:25:37.040 and so crafted the letter to say that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.

00:25:47.080 And then as political operatives, they got everybody to sign it.

00:25:54.540 Devin Nunes is with us now.

00:25:57.340 He, he joins us, a former U.S.

00:25:59.760 Congressman.

00:26:00.380 He was on the front line of all of this stuff.

00:26:02.220 Now he's at Truth Social.

00:26:03.360 He's the CEO.

00:26:04.620 Devin, how are you?

00:26:06.220 Hey, Glenn.

00:26:06.700 It's great to be with you this morning.

00:26:08.200 Oh my gosh.

00:26:09.080 How glad are you to be out of this cesspool?

00:26:13.300 Well, it's kind of like out of the frying pan and into the fryer.

00:26:17.440 You know, over at Truth Social, it's just daily attacks.

00:26:21.180 Yeah.

00:26:21.520 Like spot attacks from foreign countries.

00:26:23.760 Then it's being attacked by the fake news or, or by the Biden administration or, you know,

00:26:29.680 you name it.

00:26:30.880 So when you were there, you were, you were really leading a lot of these things and really

00:26:36.260 doing hard work to uncover.

00:26:38.280 And, you know, of course you were a conspiracy theorist and everything else and everything

00:26:42.980 that you talked about, we've talked about, um, has turned out to be true and worse.

00:26:50.060 This, this Michael, Michael Morrell thing, uh, what do you make of it?

00:26:55.840 Yeah.

00:26:56.360 I remember when I was chairman of the house intelligence committee doing a long interview

00:27:01.140 with you on your show, I think we've been, I don't know what it, what it was for, but

00:27:04.660 it went like almost 30 minutes or 45 minutes.

00:27:07.880 And, um, I remember you saying this really can't be true.

00:27:11.900 Is it?

00:27:12.460 You know, you, we were going back and forth, uh, talking about it.

00:27:16.260 And the only thing that I would correct you on is that the whole idea of the Durham report

00:27:22.720 was a fake narrative that was built by the deep state to say that, Oh, Durham's just going

00:27:30.600 to do a report.

00:27:31.280 Durham's just going to do a report.

00:27:32.540 Durham's just going to do a report.

00:27:34.020 And nobody really listened to me at the time, even though I was the guy that uncovered all

00:27:37.620 this.

00:27:37.840 I said, I don't give a damn about a report.

00:27:41.540 I only want to see people go to jail.

00:27:44.840 Amen.

00:27:45.180 We made four, we made 14 criminal referrals, um, of which you've seen Durham's been able

00:27:51.460 to bring three indictments, one pled guilty to walked, which is a whole nother problem with

00:27:58.060 our two tier justice system.

00:27:59.360 Cause if it was Glenn Beck or Devin Nunes being tried in Washington, DC, we would have been,

00:28:07.080 uh, you know, the, the trial would have lasted.

00:28:09.180 The jury would have met for about 12 seconds and then we would have got the maximum penalty,

00:28:13.980 uh, by the judge.

00:28:16.100 So it's really, this, this has been really damaging to our country that this, it was kind

00:28:21.080 of the start of it, you know, when they, they were willing to go one step beyond just having

00:28:26.520 political operatives do stupid political operative things that everybody knows, Oh, it's an October

00:28:31.000 surprise.

00:28:31.600 Aha.

00:28:32.860 Versus, Oh, this is an October surprise.

00:28:35.160 And Oh, wow.

00:28:36.960 The department of justice is involved in this much, much different when they're willing

00:28:41.220 to weaponize the intelligence and justice system in this country.

00:28:45.280 So what do you think it means that they're willing to openly admit this?

00:28:51.380 I mean, it explained to me how I'm wrong.

00:28:55.760 This is the intelligence community colluding with the Biden campaign through Anthony Blinken

00:29:04.220 to obstruct the truth, to help a candidate.

00:29:09.960 That is the worst of the worst.

00:29:12.180 I mean, that's worse than Watergate by far.

00:29:16.420 By, by, yeah, yeah, it's not even close, but let's take this deep state actor.

00:29:24.200 So Morrell was a guy that got up that we questioned after Benghazi, because remember he

00:29:31.060 was involved in writing the talking points.

00:29:33.140 I had forgot about this.

00:29:34.280 Oh my gosh.

00:29:35.820 He wrote the talking points and he was the deputy CIA director at the time.

00:29:40.300 Right.

00:29:40.760 And it was, and it was kind of like explained by the media.

00:29:44.060 The narrative at the time was, well, this is a career guy.

00:29:47.640 He just made a mistake.

00:29:49.620 And then, you know, I remember we questioned him and he says, oh, you know, yeah, I wouldn't

00:29:52.920 have done that that way, blah, whatever.

00:29:55.040 Well then totally missed it.

00:29:57.500 And look, and I'm the one who did the Russia hoax because there was so much fake news involved

00:30:01.760 in all this.

00:30:02.300 So we kind of just got glossed over.

00:30:03.920 But Morrell also participated early on in the Russia hoax.

00:30:09.680 So here you had a guy, the CIA knew it was fake, knew it was phony, knew it was ginned

00:30:13.920 up by the Clinton campaign.

00:30:15.400 But Morrell pins an op-ed in the New York Times that was essentially alluding that Trump

00:30:22.300 had these Russia problems, you know, to be on the lookout for it.

00:30:25.960 Now, look, nobody paid attention to any of that stuff in 2016.

00:30:29.820 It died quickly because it was a joke.

00:30:32.120 Nobody believed it.

00:30:32.920 They tried to they tried to spin up this Russia stuff on Trump in 16 and it just died.

00:30:37.800 And then they went on to the Billy Bush tapes.

00:30:39.380 Remember that?

00:30:40.920 And then remember how this all then how this got resurrected is because after the election,

00:30:46.980 when Trump stuns everybody and wins in 2016, they said, oh, what the hell are we going to

00:30:53.160 do now?

00:30:53.960 And Comey and Obama and all of them said, well, we're going to go all in.

00:30:59.520 We're going to put the justice system, the Justice Department, the FBI.

00:31:02.900 We're going after Trump.

00:31:04.680 And they did that a couple of weeks after Trump won in 2016.

00:31:08.680 And we have we have records of that.

00:31:11.160 We know who was in that meeting.

00:31:13.020 I mean, it's it's amazing.

00:31:14.960 And Susan Wright leaves that meeting and she's like, we did nothing wrong in this meeting.

00:31:20.300 It was it was like, what are you for?

00:31:25.000 So because Glenn, don't you normally like when I get off your radio show, you just pin something

00:31:30.040 down.

00:31:30.400 Talk to Devin Nunes.

00:31:31.200 We did nothing wrong.

00:31:32.760 Exactly right.

00:31:34.180 We didn't break the law or do anything wrong that would be suspicious even.

00:31:38.660 Um, so so here he is, um, uh, CIA chief.

00:31:45.500 He is colluding with, uh, Anthony, Anthony Blinken, who is, uh, at the time high up in the

00:31:56.300 Biden campaign.

00:31:58.040 Morell says, I didn't even think of this until I talked to Blinken.

00:32:02.100 So you have the, you have the campaign reaching out to the CIA and he said, I got the idea

00:32:11.380 from Blinken and I did it and I wouldn't have done it without Blinken.

00:32:17.460 Yeah.

00:32:18.120 So, so, so what happens in as best as I can describe it, and this is where Morell's the

00:32:24.000 least of the problems here.

00:32:25.360 Okay.

00:32:26.200 So Morell is, you know, outside, he's on the outside now.

00:32:29.720 I assume he still holds a security clearance.

00:32:32.240 Many of those 51 signers still hold a security clearance.

00:32:36.520 They're in high level positions for likely government contractors.

00:32:40.900 You know, they work, they sit on boards of these big defense companies that provide, um,

00:32:46.860 uh, intelligence and products to, to our military industrial complex.

00:32:50.780 So what, what happens here is Morell, um, is the guy that they, you know, he's the go-to

00:32:56.500 guy, right?

00:32:57.000 He's the fix it guy because he did it in Benghazi.

00:33:00.060 He did it in Russia.

00:33:01.380 Oh, this is definitely the guy we can do it.

00:33:03.360 Now, look, he's trying to move up in the Soviet style apparatchik system.

00:33:07.400 He just wants to be CIA director so badly.

00:33:10.300 That's Morell's story.

00:33:11.600 So he was always willing to do anything that the left wanted him, wanted them to do.

00:33:17.660 So when Blinken calls him, who's at the Biden Penn Center, no less at the time, and in 2020,

00:33:26.460 so, and says, Hey, we got this coming out.

00:33:28.280 We need some help here.

00:33:29.880 Morell, can you help us?

00:33:31.160 Oh, oh yeah, absolutely.

00:33:32.560 Let's get a letter.

00:33:33.280 Okay.

00:33:33.480 Where's the letter?

00:33:34.100 Okay.

00:33:34.240 And then they go get 51 of probably the most respected names on the left.

00:33:39.840 Everybody knows them as, as, as left guys, left-wing guys, but, you know, relatively well-respected

00:33:45.440 former CIA directors, et cetera, four-star generals, that sort of thing.

00:33:49.000 And Morell, uh, goes on, on the request of Blinken to do this now, and they do it.

00:33:56.720 And of course, it's all a lie.

00:33:57.760 It's all a scam.

00:33:58.300 They know it's a lie.

00:33:59.560 Now, the biggest problem here, Glenn, that we have, Blinken gets rewarded for this.

00:34:05.020 And he is now, people don't realize the secretary of state position is often seen in, not only

00:34:12.940 in the United States of America and in Washington, but around the world as the number three position

00:34:16.780 in the entire government of the United States.

00:34:18.600 Oh, yeah.

00:34:19.600 Big time.

00:34:20.980 Big time.

00:34:21.720 You know, it's a position not, you know, it's not always in the news.

00:34:24.000 It's not something new domestically.

00:34:25.400 People see a lot, but, but, you know, that is our voice.

00:34:28.340 It's the head of our foreign service.

00:34:31.300 So, and by the way, um, the head of the Afghanistan debacle to the state department was put in charge

00:34:38.500 of that, of the, uh, evacuation over the Pentagon.

00:34:42.360 It was crazy.

00:34:43.660 Um, well, if you put, if you put political actors leftists in,

00:34:48.180 that couldn't find their way out of a paper bag, you get disasters.

00:34:52.000 Yes.

00:34:52.360 And we've seen it over and over again.

00:34:54.540 And don't forget, okay, yeah, Afghanistan's bad enough.

00:34:57.000 What about Ukraine?

00:34:58.120 That's turning into a disaster.

00:34:59.520 What about nobody's paying attention to Sudan?

00:35:02.440 Right?

00:35:02.840 I was, I was, I was not, not that they aren't paying attention.

00:35:06.420 They are just letting those Americans rot.

00:35:10.080 Just, ah, you know what?

00:35:11.720 You're going to have to get out on your own.

00:35:13.060 We told you, you shouldn't go there.

00:35:14.660 Oh my gosh.

00:35:16.780 Yeah.

00:35:17.160 And one of them is a, is, is a teacher, uh, as I understand it, that was there working

00:35:22.880 for the government.

00:35:23.580 So a lot of times when we have foreigners overseas, we have a school system for the

00:35:28.460 kids, the children of those, of those people that are working on behalf of the United States

00:35:31.580 government, as I understand it, one of them is a teacher.

00:35:34.140 So they're saying, Oh, there's no U S personnel there.

00:35:36.160 Well, that poor lady's only there because she was part of the servicing the Americans that

00:35:41.660 were in Sudan.

00:35:43.400 Anyway, I mean, it's just that this guy's overseeing one debacle after another.

00:35:48.840 And, and, and, and none of these, what I've said over and over again, anyone who signed

00:35:54.980 that letter, all 51 of them, not only should they never hold another government job in their

00:36:01.280 lifetime, they shouldn't have a security clearance, not one of them.

00:36:07.220 So, you know, we're living in a time where the Congress can refer anybody to, you know,

00:36:12.740 take action against.

00:36:13.660 I asked, I asked a Congressman, I said, why, why aren't you going after these?

00:36:18.840 These guys who have lied under oath.

00:36:20.920 And he said, because all we can do is give it to the justice department.

00:36:23.940 And then they decide if they're going to prosecute or not.

00:36:27.600 Is that really, is that really the way this works?

00:36:31.060 And there's no way around that.

00:36:34.120 Well, look, I mean, you know, you know, as well as anybody, how the legislative branch

00:36:37.660 works, I don't know specifically what, you know, what you're referring to, but what the,

00:36:43.420 what they really have to do is, is not only make referrals, but they have to continue

00:36:48.160 to dig and dig.

00:36:49.080 And it's, and it, look, it's very frustrating.

00:36:51.220 I mean, look, I uncovered all of this dirt, you know, with our team and, you know, and you

00:36:56.980 see, like we said, we'd like, we talked about Durham.

00:36:59.440 Now Durham's still going, but clearly he's being limited.

00:37:02.360 But I always say that, you know, the Congress doesn't have, they don't have guns.

00:37:05.660 They don't have badges.

00:37:06.560 They can't go arrest somebody, but they've got to pin these guys down, right?

00:37:10.860 Like they can't just let this Morrell and Blinken thing go.

00:37:15.780 And I know it's hard.

00:37:16.900 And this is going to be the challenge is that you, and I get it.

00:37:20.220 I was there.

00:37:20.860 I was one of those, those congressman guys.

00:37:24.340 You know, it's tough.

00:37:25.560 You gotta, you gotta work with, you gotta work with the state department.

00:37:29.180 You gotta work with all these, with the, with the executive branch.

00:37:31.880 They have things that, that you have things that you need for your constituents.

00:37:35.040 You know, you want to try to make the government function and it's human nature not to want

00:37:41.260 to have that conflict.

00:37:43.200 But the thing is, is that we are living in a dystopian world that's getting worse.

00:37:48.900 And what I tell my colleagues, you know, that my former colleagues is, is guys, this is not,

00:37:54.320 you know, you know, maybe in 15 and 16, you could play that way.

00:37:57.940 You can't play that way today, knowing how they've weaponized the government.

00:38:01.140 You have to pin these people down and you have to continue to subpoena every single

00:38:05.720 person around them.

00:38:06.700 And you've got to publicize the criminal referrals.

00:38:09.480 Imagine how, if you know, the, the old saying is one generation, what they tolerate, the next

00:38:15.900 one embraces and look at what we're tolerating.

00:38:19.100 If we don't stop tolerating this stuff, when we fully embrace this corruption, we absolutely

00:38:27.480 are Venezuela.

00:38:29.160 It's, it's nasty.

00:38:30.980 Devin, thank you so much.

00:38:32.480 Yep.

00:38:33.040 Absolutely, Glenn.

00:38:33.880 It's good to talk to you.

00:38:34.860 And I'd love to have you on more often.

00:38:36.840 You've got a great perspective on things.

00:38:39.640 Thank you so much.

00:38:40.520 Thank you.

00:38:40.940 Great to be with you.

00:38:42.020 Thank you.

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00:38:44.700 He's the CEO and former U.S.

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00:40:10.420 There's something, uh, happening, uh, and I think it's happening to Tucker Carlson.

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00:40:45.500 He did a little thing from, and please, Tucker, let me fix your set, please, please.

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00:40:53.120 But anyway, um, he is, uh, uh, he did his, uh, did a quick little monologue and it was

00:41:00.560 so hopeful and, uh, I don't know.

00:41:05.500 There, there's just, there's a change coming in this country about how we are dealing with

00:41:13.940 the troubles that we're dealing with and, and how we are, um, how we're fighting the good

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00:41:22.800 Watch the Tucker, uh, monologue.

00:41:25.340 He tweeted it out last night in case you haven't seen it.

00:41:28.180 It's very, very good.

00:41:29.680 All right.

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00:43:27.080 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:29.520 Let me take you back in the time tunnel, tunnel, tunnel, tunnel, tunnel, tunnel.

00:43:38.940 You've got to go back 10 years.

00:43:42.780 The name Jack Phillips.

00:43:44.900 Sound familiar?

00:43:46.940 How about this?

00:43:48.200 He's, he ran the masterpiece cake shop in Colorado.

00:43:52.740 Remember?

00:43:54.020 And he had somebody walk into a store, say he wanted a gay wedding cake.

00:43:59.000 And he said, you know, I, I'll make anything for you, but my religion, my, my religious beliefs, I can't do that for you.

00:44:06.860 Uh, but I'll sell you any other cake.

00:44:09.520 And, uh, then he was sued for it.

00:44:11.820 It went all the way to the Supreme Court.

00:44:15.080 He was found, you know, I don't know, not bigoted.

00:44:21.520 I don't know what they said.

00:44:23.580 He doesn't have to make your stupid cake.

00:44:25.780 Okay.

00:44:26.100 He has a right as an artist to not be forced to make a cake.

00:44:31.320 So we all went, yay, it's over.

00:44:34.240 Well, then some other guy, an activist, came in and said, I want a Satan cake.

00:44:39.880 And he's like, I can't make a Satan cake.

00:44:42.040 I swear, Jack must spend his whole day just turning down cakes.

00:44:46.240 I can't make a Satan cake.

00:44:48.520 I'm sorry.

00:44:49.920 Um, and so what happened?

00:44:51.960 They tried to sue him.

00:44:53.640 This one was dismissed quickly.

00:44:57.300 Now, somebody's come in with a trans cake and they're suing him again.

00:45:03.240 Incredible.

00:45:04.040 Ten years of his life have been stolen from him.

00:45:09.660 We're going to talk to Jack Phillips and his attorney in 60 seconds.

00:45:15.620 All right.

00:45:17.540 Nestle.

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00:45:22.680 They raised their prices by 10% just last quarter.

00:45:28.420 Rising inflation.

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00:45:35.340 Okay.

00:45:36.060 Their prices.

00:45:38.340 They still have the Nestle quick bunny.

00:45:40.920 Do they milk the bunnies for this?

00:45:42.360 Yeah.

00:45:42.740 Oh, yeah.

00:45:42.800 Oh, it is what they do.

00:45:44.740 They first surprise them and put hairspray in their eyes.

00:45:48.260 Oh, no, no.

00:45:48.560 And then they milk them.

00:45:49.960 And they're so shocked.

00:45:51.280 It's chocolate bunny milk.

00:45:52.780 Anyway, prices are up on everything.

00:45:56.220 It's going to get worse with cattle and beef.

00:45:59.820 I want you to be able to lock in your price on anything you can right now.

00:46:06.100 I don't know, honestly.

00:46:07.600 I mean, I feel kind of bad because good ranchers, I really like these people and I love their meat.

00:46:14.380 It is such good meat.

00:46:17.460 But I don't know how they're going to stay in business because I'm encouraging you to lock the price in.

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00:46:32.100 That's kind of a big deal.

00:46:33.820 You know, when everybody's paying like, is that Kobe beef?

00:46:37.220 No, no, no.

00:46:38.900 That's probably ground up dog and it's $400 a pound.

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00:47:07.100 Is Jack with us yet?

00:47:09.360 Okay.

00:47:09.980 Jack Phillips is with us along with Matt Sharp.

00:47:12.860 He is from the ADF Alliance Defending Freedom.

00:47:16.220 He's senior counsel.

00:47:17.120 Been on the program before.

00:47:19.200 Jack, welcome back to the program.

00:47:21.500 I wish we didn't have to do this all over again.

00:47:25.900 Thank you, Mr. Beck.

00:47:27.000 It's a pleasure to be here today.

00:47:28.460 Yeah.

00:47:29.860 Can I ask you, I think this is the worst theft I've ever seen in my life.

00:47:38.580 These people have stolen 10 years of your life.

00:47:46.540 How are you dealing with that, Jack?

00:47:49.920 Well, we're grateful to have ADF there beside us through this whole thing.

00:47:54.460 But I just want to make it clear that the people that are suing me, I welcome in my shop.

00:47:59.240 I welcome everybody who comes into my shop at Masterpiece Cake Shop.

00:48:02.600 But I just can't express every message that people ask us to create with our custom cakes.

00:48:07.380 And that was the case over 10 years ago now when two men came in and asked me to create a cake to celebrate their wedding.

00:48:14.520 And it was a view of a wedding that goes against my beliefs for what weddings are.

00:48:19.980 And so I told them, you know, I'll sell you other cakes, other custom cakes, sell you anything in my shop, cookies, brownies.

00:48:25.900 But I just can't create a cake for a same-sex wedding that goes against my faith.

00:48:29.560 And they stormed out of my shop, swearing at me, flipping me off, went to the state, filed a complaint.

00:48:36.520 The state sued me.

00:48:37.660 And that case ended up at the U.S. Supreme Court, like you know.

00:48:40.760 And we won seven to two.

00:48:43.000 The day that the court granted our case, though, an attorney here in Colorado called us up and asked us to create a cake that was blue on the outside and pink on the inside.

00:48:52.400 And then we were informed that those colors were symbolic of changing gender, changing from a man to a woman.

00:48:58.260 So we told this attorney that we would be glad to serve other custom cakes, create other custom cakes, serve them in any way that we would serve anybody else.

00:49:06.160 But the cake expressed a message that I didn't want to create.

00:49:10.240 And so that person sued us through the state.

00:49:12.200 That went forward and then was dismissed.

00:49:14.940 And now we're in the same lawsuit with the same person in a civil case.

00:49:19.020 And we lost the first two rounds.

00:49:21.540 And so ADF has asked the state Supreme Court to hear our case.

00:49:25.600 And so we're waiting for the results of that.

00:49:28.260 Jack, I've got to go back to my first question.

00:49:31.080 Sure.

00:49:31.540 How are you doing this?

00:49:32.720 Ten years.

00:49:35.440 Do you, I mean, I know you're a believer.

00:49:37.620 I know you're doing things because you really, truly believe that this is wrong.

00:49:43.720 And I can't thank you enough as a citizen for doing this.

00:49:47.480 But do you ever get to a point where you're like, I can't take it?

00:49:52.120 No, this is the right thing to do.

00:49:57.020 It's a big fight.

00:49:59.080 And it is for every American because free speech is for everyone.

00:50:02.920 And we're hoping that this court will overturn it.

00:50:05.640 But, again, like I said, with ADF backing us up and knowing that we have the best legal team that you could possibly have in a situation like this is reassuring.

00:50:16.840 So let me go to Matt.

00:50:18.340 Matt, tell me what this case is looking at, why it went civil, and why you're having a hard time or he had a hard time before you guys came on board.

00:50:30.020 Yeah, well, as you mentioned earlier, you know, the Supreme Court ruled for Jack but focused on the hostility that Colorado was showing to Jack where it was comparing his beliefs about marriage to being no different than those of Nazis and those responsible for the Holocaust.

00:50:47.560 And so the Supreme Court didn't get to that core question of can Colorado force artists like Jack to speak a message to support a cause or idea that violates their belief.

00:50:58.240 And that's what we're fighting for now is we want that definitive ruling to say the Constitution clearly protects the speech of every American and including take artists like Jack.

00:51:08.120 But isn't that what the first Supreme Court decision said?

00:51:11.860 No, they didn't go all the way there.

00:51:13.540 They just focused on that hostility and sort of saved the bigger question for another day.

00:51:18.660 And so we're litigating it now on Jack.

00:51:20.600 We've got another case, Lori Smith of 303 Creative, that's at the U.S. Supreme Court challenging the same Colorado law.

00:51:26.920 So we're hopeful that we are going to get that ruling that's going to put an end once and for all to these vexatious challenges against Jack and allow him to go back to doing what he loves to do.

00:51:38.200 I go back to, you know, I think 10 years have been stolen.

00:51:43.560 Stolen? Stole?

00:51:45.020 That's a word.

00:51:45.620 That's probably the right word, right?

00:51:46.760 Yes.

00:51:47.500 It's also a bread, so we should ask Jack about it.

00:51:51.000 But I just think, you know, there's at some point should be a penalty for people who are intentionally trying to destroy someone's life just to make a point.

00:52:06.820 Yeah, and especially with this case, I mean, the person doing this, this activist attorney admitted that if this case was thrown out, come back in the next day and ask for another cake that they know Jack could not do because of his beliefs.

00:52:21.060 And we're bringing that point out.

00:52:22.320 We're raising awareness that this was a setup, that this was an effort to try and punish and harass Jack because of his beliefs, and we're not going to stand for it.

00:52:30.020 Yeah, can you counter-sue at all on this?

00:52:33.820 I mean, this is harassment.

00:52:35.620 This is harassment.

00:52:37.700 Yeah, well, that's why we're hopeful that the Colorado Supreme Court is going to shut this down once and for all and make sure that these types of claims can't be brought anymore against Jack or others like him.

00:52:46.400 And how is the, what's the makeup of the Colorado Supreme Court?

00:52:51.500 Well, you know, we've been through this process before the first time around,

00:52:58.560 and they didn't show willingness to stand for the Constitution and uphold Jack's free speech rights,

00:53:05.280 but we're hopeful that they'll see what this delegation is doing to him and how this is being, like you said,

00:53:11.440 the harassment and these laws are being misused to punish Jack and try and coerce him because of his beliefs.

00:53:16.800 And what happens if the Colorado courts turn you away and say, nope, we side with the, what is it, the plaintiff?

00:53:26.400 We side with the guys who want the cake, and the Supreme Court just doesn't take his case.

00:53:32.680 What happens to Jack then?

00:53:34.860 You know, it could be ruinous for him.

00:53:36.860 It could have severe impacts, but this is where we're optimistic that if not the Colorado Supreme Court,

00:53:44.480 then we are going to ask the U.S. Supreme Court, and we're hopeful that whether it's in Jack's case or Laurie Smith's case,

00:53:49.300 as I mentioned, that's pending there, that we are going to get the Supreme Court to reaffirm

00:53:53.600 that you can't force Americans to speak messages to support causes that they disagree with.

00:53:58.560 It's amazing.

00:54:00.520 Matt, thank you for being there.

00:54:03.380 ADF, you guys do so much.

00:54:06.120 And if it wasn't for you, I mean, people are having a hard time finding attorneys now

00:54:10.380 because the attorney firm will be hassled, and so it's just not worth the headache to stand up and defend the Bill of Rights.

00:54:18.240 So thank you for everything you guys do.

00:54:20.440 I will say to Jack, you know, I find it very difficult to come to a conclusion on this case without tasting these baked goods for myself.

00:54:27.360 I mean, I think it would only be fair if we got some baked goods from time to time from Jack, but no.

00:54:35.960 He's like, you will purchase the baked goods.

00:54:39.400 We will not send them to you.

00:54:42.400 More important things than that, I suppose.

00:54:44.400 Jack, sincerely, thank you for standing.

00:54:49.600 God puts you in the right place at the right time.

00:54:52.400 I'm kidding.

00:54:52.620 Yeah, thanks for allowing us to share our story and hopefully encourage other people to do what's right because, like I said earlier, free speech is for everyone.

00:55:03.340 These cases are not just about me and my cake shop.

00:55:06.200 They're about every American.

00:55:07.660 God bless you.

00:55:08.260 And so we're hopeful for a good result.

00:55:11.320 Thank you very much, Jack.

00:55:12.460 Jack Phillips, Masterpiece Cake Shop.

00:55:15.100 Ten years.

00:55:16.920 Incredible.

00:55:17.340 This poor guy has just been beaten down.

00:55:20.240 I mean, at some point, I mean, just as a human, you would have to say, I mean, I just want to make cakes.

00:55:34.420 How much time has been, again, holiday stolen from him?

00:55:41.320 How much time has been taken from this man?

00:55:46.380 And there's got to be times when you're just like, I mean, I know he is sincere in his faith.

00:55:56.260 Oh, that's incredibly clear.

00:55:58.420 Yeah.

00:55:58.800 And that's why, you know, God put him in the right place.

00:56:02.440 They're picking on the wrong guy because this guy, he is clear.

00:56:06.660 How many of us have that kind of faith?

00:56:08.860 It's almost, it's so hard because there's such a pragmatic cost to it for him.

00:56:15.020 You know, his life is being destroyed.

00:56:17.040 And, you know, you can tell that he really cares about this.

00:56:20.880 But, you know, after six months, it would be really hard to keep going.

00:56:25.360 It's just, I don't know, just make the cake.

00:56:27.260 You know, I mean, that has to, I know if I'm running this cake shop, first of all, it's probably very much losing money because I'm eating all the goods.

00:56:35.280 But secondarily, I think it would be, that would definitely cross my mind.

00:56:40.140 If I felt the way he did, I would be like, all right, you know, this is ridiculous.

00:56:43.860 I'm going to ruin my entire life over this.

00:56:46.200 I would move to a friendlier state.

00:56:48.380 Right, you'd move to a friendlier state.

00:56:50.380 You'd close down your shop.

00:56:52.060 There'd be a hundred things that would cross your mind.

00:56:54.120 And every time we've talked to him, I've never really had the sense that that has been the case with him.

00:56:57.880 He's always been just like, I'm just going to hold strong.

00:56:59.280 Because, I mean, when you have that kind of faith, you know that you should expect persecution.

00:57:07.960 You're standing against evil.

00:57:11.620 Yeah.

00:57:12.020 And, of course, you're going to be a target.

00:57:15.180 And, you know, hopefully Jack, in a way, looks at it as a badge of honor.

00:57:19.440 I mean, that guy's earning his place in the history books, and he's earning his place in the afterworld.

00:57:29.000 I mean, he still believes in that sky god in the afterworld.

00:57:32.360 Boy, is he going to be surprised when he wakes up in the coffin.

00:57:35.020 Anyway.

00:57:37.800 That's how it works at all.

00:57:39.140 Oh, really?

00:57:40.060 Anyway, Jack Phillips.

00:57:42.580 He was clear he was not sending us baked goods, though, I will say.

00:57:45.620 Yeah, that was very clear.

00:57:47.320 He was freezing us out.

00:57:48.600 Do you remember when Tony Bennett was on my show?

00:57:52.420 He had a live orchestra, and I had an hour with him, and he would play his music.

00:57:58.400 And I asked him at the end, I said, I can't have Tony Bennett on without, you know, asking you to do your most famous song.

00:58:06.260 But, I mean, if you're sick of doing it, you don't have to.

00:58:09.020 I'm trying to be nice to him.

00:58:10.260 Sure.

00:58:10.920 And he said, what song are you talking about?

00:58:14.240 And I said, you know, I left my heart in San Francisco.

00:58:16.960 And he said, why wouldn't I like?

00:58:18.800 And he just, like, snapped on me.

00:58:21.000 He got angry.

00:58:21.920 He got really angry.

00:58:23.000 Why wouldn't I like that song?

00:58:24.040 And I'm like, I don't know.

00:58:25.160 I was just trying to be nice.

00:58:26.260 I was just trying to give you an out on that.

00:58:27.620 And I got that vibe from Jack a little bit when you said, I want free baked goods.

00:58:34.500 I feel like he might now, if I went in there to purchase him, he might kick me out of the cake shop.

00:58:38.380 There might be a whole other suit here.

00:58:39.900 I might be suing him.

00:58:41.240 I won't make anything for you.

00:58:44.660 Get out.

00:58:46.060 All right.

00:58:46.460 Peggy wrote in about her dog's existence with Rough Green.

00:58:49.000 She says, our dog Baxter just turned 10 back in November.

00:58:53.000 He was losing all interest in eating.

00:58:56.780 Yeah.

00:58:57.660 Yeah.

00:58:57.900 It happens to all guys.

00:58:59.260 Oh, yeah.

00:58:59.840 You know, you're just like.

00:59:01.020 This is how I got this physique.

00:59:03.000 Yeah.

00:59:03.280 I just lost interest in eating.

00:59:05.620 You know, dogs may lose interest in eating.

00:59:09.100 Guys, when we lose interest in life, we're more interested in eating.

00:59:14.200 It's the only part of life we like anymore.

00:59:16.700 Getting dressed is secondary.

00:59:18.460 That's why you got to men stand up for Jack Phillips.

00:59:23.720 I mean, he'll help us get fat.

00:59:26.820 Anyway, Peggy says at my husband's suggestion, we purchased Rough Greens and now he's eating

00:59:32.580 his kibble with that sprinkled on it.

00:59:34.840 It has been a very positive thing for our dog.

00:59:37.300 We weren't sure if we would.

00:59:39.100 He was going to make it into the new year, but he is still with us.

00:59:43.540 Thank you.

00:59:44.280 Rough Greens.

00:59:45.160 Peggy, I'm so glad to hear this.

00:59:46.720 You know, we all know lean, green and mean.

00:59:51.420 You got to have they got to have your greens.

00:59:53.680 Your greens are healthy.

00:59:54.800 Shut up.

00:59:57.320 Brown, not so healthy.

01:00:00.000 Generally, we say don't pick up things that are brown and put them in your mouth.

01:00:05.820 But good advice.

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01:00:10.040 That would be bad.

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01:00:29.780 Ten seconds.

01:00:30.300 Station ID.

01:00:30.740 We I mean, this should be Friday because we have all these people that are fighting back coming up in just a minute.

01:00:46.880 We're, you know, fight back Fridays we're doing.

01:00:50.000 Um, and hopefully we have some other people left that are fighting back in just a few minutes.

01:00:55.520 I'm going to introduce you to Connor Fitzpatrick.

01:00:57.540 Um, he is representing the Michigan middle school students that have gotten together, uh, and they filed a lawsuit because the school forced them to take off their let's go Brandon sweatshirts.

01:01:14.880 Now, if the school has a policy that's consistent, then I would disagree with them, but we'll find out.

01:01:22.320 Uh, I don't think they're being, I highly doubt they're being consistent.

01:01:27.460 Uh, and, uh, so they're going to court.

01:01:29.780 Um, because, you know, would you have, I mean, the people who were so anti-Trump, so anti-Trump, would, would, would that school kick the kids out if they had an anti-Trump shirt?

01:01:44.960 I, I, I doubt it.

01:01:46.280 Probably be celebrated.

01:01:47.440 I don't know why we still are sending our kids to school.

01:01:52.120 I really don't.

01:01:53.540 They should learn in some fashion.

01:01:55.540 No.

01:01:56.120 No, you're getting anti-learning.

01:01:57.500 Knowledge is bad.

01:01:58.180 No, but I mean, we know that this is, they are grooming our children to be activists.

01:02:06.220 Uh, I think I could make a pretty solid case to lose gender, uh, you know, homosexuality, pedophilia.

01:02:16.320 They've got drag queens in school books that are just filth.

01:02:21.840 And yet, we all still kind of go, yeah, I know, that's really, that's really bad.

01:02:28.880 Hey, don't miss your bus.

01:02:30.340 Although I think that's changing quite a bit, and I think it's, since COVID, we've seen a massive shift on that issue.

01:02:38.420 It has, but it shows you how trapped people are in the federal system.

01:02:43.000 We're so trapped in our school systems because we pay taxes and everything else, and there's been relatively no competition that you could get any kind of help with, and because of that, prices are high, et cetera, et cetera.

01:02:56.040 You're trapped, and people are just like, what am I going to do?

01:03:00.560 What am I going to do?

01:03:01.420 I mean, we are sending our kids five days a week in to be turned against us, God, our principles, everything.

01:03:14.800 It's really crazy.

01:03:16.380 Yeah, and I think it's important.

01:03:17.420 I mean, I'm not doing that, and I'm very happy with that choice.

01:03:21.480 Everyone should be able to make it.

01:03:23.040 I know, but not everybody is in that.

01:03:25.080 Not everyone can, and it's unfortunate, and I will tell you, it's terrible.

01:03:28.360 They want to raise, they're right now, in Texas, you have this possibility of challenging your taxes.

01:03:33.840 Every year, they give you this chance to protest your taxes, which you should always do if you happen to live in Texas or if your state does this.

01:03:39.460 Oh, yeah, if you don't.

01:03:41.520 Surprise.

01:03:42.260 I want it to be zero dollars or something close to zero dollars.

01:03:45.520 I don't even send my kids to these schools, and I have to pay taxes to send my kids to schools they don't attend, and then I have to pay again and another to the private school.

01:03:55.300 And it's like, well, this is completely insane for most people, and it shouldn't be that way.

01:04:00.320 You should be able to choose where to send your kids to school, but this is so entrenched, and it's destroying us.

01:04:06.480 Luckily, a lot of people have been able to change that in the last couple of years, but we should keep pushing in this direction.

01:04:12.280 Amen.

01:04:13.000 Amen.

01:04:13.200 Back in just a minute.

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01:05:52.700 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program up in Michigan.

01:05:55.360 I read a story yesterday that middle school students there have filed a suit after the school forces them to take off their Let's Go Brandon sweatshirts.

01:06:06.160 The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression attorney, known as FIRE, and you can find them at thefire.org.

01:06:13.960 Connor Fitzpatrick is joining us with us because these guys are minors protecting their anonymity.

01:06:21.400 They're not going to be on with us, but we're going to talk to Patrick about this case.

01:06:24.780 He's fighting it up in Michigan.

01:06:28.360 Hello, Patrick.

01:06:29.220 How are you?

01:06:29.900 Or Connor?

01:06:30.460 How are you, Patrick?

01:06:32.120 Good morning.

01:06:32.600 Great.

01:06:32.880 Great to be here.

01:06:33.640 Yeah, thanks.

01:06:34.260 So, Connor, is this inconsistent with their dress code?

01:06:43.680 You know, how can they file suit if there is a dress code that says you can't wear things that cause attention being brought to you or disruptive?

01:06:56.000 So, the dress code provision that the school is relying on to ban these Let's Go Brandon hoodies says that you're not allowed to wear vulgar or profane clothing.

01:07:07.240 That's what the school is relying on.

01:07:08.880 But, of course, these hoodies aren't vulgar.

01:07:10.680 They aren't profane.

01:07:12.000 Now, they're a cultural reference to a different chant, which, admittedly, you can't say at school.

01:07:18.180 Kids can't drop the F-bomb in class.

01:07:20.020 We all agree with that.

01:07:21.600 But these students aren't doing that.

01:07:22.920 They are intentionally using a sanitized, non-vulgar, non-profane slogan in order to get their point across.

01:07:31.060 And that's squarely protected by the First Amendment.

01:07:33.720 So, what is the school saying?

01:07:35.620 When you filed suit with them, what did the school say?

01:07:40.780 We have not heard anything from the school or the school district since we filed suit other than that they acknowledged my email when I emailed the lawsuit to them.

01:07:50.100 And did the parents reach out?

01:07:53.120 How did this come to be a suit?

01:07:55.800 How many kids are involved?

01:07:58.060 And did the parents reach out to the school first and try to get answers or some open minds on this?

01:08:07.040 So, we have two students who are plaintiffs in our case, both of whom were ordered by the school district to remove Let's Go Brandon sweatshirts.

01:08:16.580 And the ironic thing about all of this is this shouldn't have required a lawsuit.

01:08:21.320 Last year, through attorneys, the parents wrote to the school district, set out the pertinent Supreme Court law and the First Amendment law, and said, hey, you have to allow these hoodies.

01:08:31.560 They're protected by the First Amendment.

01:08:33.700 Unfortunately, the school doubled down.

01:08:35.780 They dug their heels in.

01:08:37.340 And that's why we're in federal court.

01:08:39.640 Jeez.

01:08:40.220 And your thoughts on the case and ramifications if you win or lose?

01:08:47.340 My thoughts on the case are, admittedly, I'm a little bit biased, but I think these hoodies are squarely protected by the First Amendment.

01:08:53.420 You know, a little more than 50 years ago, the Supreme Court decided the major student speech case.

01:08:58.440 It's called Tinker v. Des Moines.

01:09:00.280 And their middle school students, like these kids, went to school and they wore black armbands to protest the Vietnam War.

01:09:06.960 And the Supreme Court held that as long as the students aren't being disruptive, as long as they aren't disrupting lessons, kids have a First Amendment right to peacefully express their political views in school.

01:09:18.220 And what schools can't do and what the school's doing here is playing favorites, allowing some students to express their political views, their social views, but stopping other students from expressing theirs.

01:09:30.440 And it's really amazing to me that, you know, once you get into college, the entire system is trying to teach you to stand up and protest and disrupt.

01:09:43.080 And it's now in our our middle schools and elementary schools as well.

01:09:48.320 But here the schools are saying, no, no, no, you can't disrupt.

01:09:53.340 You can't do that when everything on the left is all about chaos and disruption.

01:09:57.760 So under the Supreme Court's precedent, as long as students aren't being disruptive, you're not allowed to stand up and start chanting protests in class.

01:10:07.820 We all agree with that. And that's the ironic thing about this case, Glenn, is that the school has never contended that these kids were being disruptive.

01:10:15.800 They were going about their day, doing their schoolwork, going from class to class.

01:10:20.100 And they just happened to be wearing a Let's Go Brandon hoodie.

01:10:22.660 But the school singled them out and ordered them to remove their sweatshirts based on the political message that they wish to express.

01:10:30.260 And that's where the Constitution gets involved.

01:10:32.260 Talking to Connor Fitzpatrick, Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression.

01:10:36.340 You can find him at thefire.org.

01:10:39.760 Connor, tell me if this if you lose this case, what are the ramifications?

01:10:48.860 And if you win this case, does it go further than just this school?

01:10:55.700 So we certainly hope we certainly hope we don't lose.

01:10:58.720 If we do, I think there's a good chance we'll take it to the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals and higher if we need to.

01:11:03.980 But the overall point of this case and the overall importance of the First Amendment in public schools is that we should be encouraging young people, not discouraging them.

01:11:14.720 We should be encouraging them to engage in political expression, to talk about the issues with their friends.

01:11:21.120 And if it causes a debate or an argument, so much for the better.

01:11:25.120 You know, Glenn, we count on our schools to prepare our kids for real life.

01:11:28.520 That's what we always say.

01:11:29.700 Schools should prepare kids for real life.

01:11:31.700 Well, in real life, people are going to disagree with them.

01:11:35.580 They're going to have neighbors and coworkers and even elected officials who don't think or talk or even pray the same way they do.

01:11:44.840 So the earlier they start getting exposed to views that they disagree with and start having those discussions, that's what's going to prepare them for a productive life as an American citizen.

01:11:54.580 And I have to tell you, there is no education without an honest search of all sides and without friction, you know, opposition in all things.

01:12:05.460 That's biblical.

01:12:06.580 There is opposition in all things, and it's necessary.

01:12:10.600 And you will never sharpen a knife without the opposition of the stone.

01:12:15.880 You will never educate your children unless they are occasionally offended.

01:12:21.880 I mean, I think the best teachers are the ones that will take one side and really argue and push the kids up against the wall and then halfway through switch sides and argue hard the other way.

01:12:38.760 That's the only way you are ever challenged to think for yourself.

01:12:44.660 That's absolutely right, Glenn.

01:12:48.300 Our schools are not assembly lines of conformity.

01:12:51.800 We leave that to China and we leave that to Russia.

01:12:54.480 We encourage our American students to think critically about their own views, to consider the possibility that they might be wrong.

01:13:02.120 Yeah.

01:13:02.420 Because that's how you put your views to the test.

01:13:05.220 Yeah.

01:13:06.000 Thank you so much for everything you guys are doing.

01:13:08.200 Really appreciate it.

01:13:09.720 Thanks, Connor.

01:13:10.100 Thank you for having me.

01:13:10.880 You bet.

01:13:11.140 Connor Fitzpatrick from thefire.org.

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01:15:01.540 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:15:21.040 We're glad you're here.

01:15:22.120 I don't know if you saw the Tucker Carlson little mini monologue that he put online yesterday.

01:15:30.420 Let's play this here.

01:15:31.540 Good evening. It's Tucker Carlson.

01:15:33.860 One of the first things you realize when you step outside the noise for a few days is how many genuinely nice people there are in this country.

01:15:41.140 Kind and decent people. People who really care about what's true.

01:15:44.900 And a bunch of hilarious people also. A lot of those.

01:15:48.880 It's got to be the majority of the population, even now.

01:15:51.560 So that's heartening.

01:15:53.060 The other thing you notice when you take a little time off is how unbelievably stupid most of the debates you see on television are.

01:16:00.340 They're completely irrelevant. They mean nothing.

01:16:03.780 In five years we won't even remember that we had them.

01:16:06.660 Trust me as someone who's participated.

01:16:09.260 And yet at the same time, and this is the amazing thing,

01:16:12.160 the undeniably big topics, the ones that will define our future,

01:16:16.120 get virtually no discussion at all.

01:16:18.360 War, civil liberties, emerging science, demographic change, corporate power, natural resources.

01:16:26.600 When was the last time you heard a legitimate debate about any of those issues?

01:16:30.920 It's been a long time.

01:16:32.020 Debates like that are not permitted in American media.

01:16:36.100 Both political parties and their donors have reached consensus on what benefits them.

01:16:41.820 And they actively collude to shut down any conversation about it.

01:16:46.120 Suddenly the United States looks very much like a one-party state.

01:16:50.420 That's a depressing realization.

01:16:52.400 But it's not permanent.

01:16:54.060 Our current orthodoxies won't last.

01:16:57.000 They're brain dead.

01:16:57.940 Nobody actually believes them.

01:17:00.580 Hardly anyone's life is improved by them.

01:17:03.700 This moment is too inherently ridiculous to continue.

01:17:07.000 And so it won't.

01:17:08.680 The people in charge know this.

01:17:09.980 That's why they're hysterical and aggressive.

01:17:12.200 They're afraid.

01:17:13.580 They've given up persuasion.

01:17:15.040 They're resorting to force.

01:17:17.040 But it won't work.

01:17:18.580 When honest people say what's true, calmly and without embarrassment,

01:17:23.080 they become powerful.

01:17:24.400 At the same time, the liars who've been trying to silence them shrink and they become weaker.

01:17:30.940 That's the iron law of the universe.

01:17:32.760 True things prevail.

01:17:35.160 Where can you still find Americans saying true things?

01:17:38.280 There aren't many places left, but there are some, and that's enough.

01:17:42.320 As long as you can hear the words, there is hope.

01:17:44.760 That is a great, hey, I'm not dead.

01:17:50.900 I haven't disappeared and nobody's shutting me up message from Tucker Carlson.

01:17:56.740 It would be more effective if he wasn't such a Nazi, right?

01:18:02.460 Right.

01:18:03.440 Right.

01:18:04.160 That's the only hole in the message.

01:18:05.500 Holy God.

01:18:06.260 It doesn't sound like a Nazi.

01:18:07.520 You know, he likes freeways.

01:18:09.600 You know who invented the freeway?

01:18:11.140 Oh, my gosh.

01:18:11.700 Yeah.

01:18:12.220 Yeah.

01:18:12.460 Oh, my gosh.

01:18:13.300 It's all coming together now, Glenn.

01:18:14.880 It's all coming together.

01:18:17.080 Yeah.

01:18:17.640 The tone of that, I think, is really great.

01:18:19.480 You know?

01:18:19.880 I know it is.

01:18:20.700 You know, you see that and you see, that's the happy warrior type of thing, right?

01:18:25.200 Where, like, he's not backing down.

01:18:28.020 He's not leaving his foundations or his principles.

01:18:31.720 But he's also smiling.

01:18:33.240 Yeah.

01:18:33.460 You know, and enjoying life a little bit.

01:18:35.200 Right.

01:18:35.620 Well, of course, you know, you're more of that.

01:18:38.200 A hundred million dollars and they say, get out and you're not going to work for it.

01:18:42.040 Why can't I find that job?

01:18:43.760 I need the job.

01:18:44.900 I want that job.

01:18:45.780 Right.

01:18:46.040 I think everyone should have a chance at those jobs.

01:18:49.500 Right.

01:18:49.940 A job that pays you multiple millions of dollars to not do the job.

01:18:53.860 That's the job I want.

01:18:55.180 Right.

01:18:55.640 I'm sick of doing the job.

01:18:57.220 I'm sick of living in this country that promises all these great things.

01:19:02.800 Yeah.

01:19:03.080 Oh, you can do it.

01:19:04.060 You can achieve.

01:19:04.960 When we have to work for our money, I want to work a year and get paid for four.

01:19:13.140 Yes.

01:19:13.820 Now, we're not working hard or doing a real job, of course.

01:19:16.420 We should know that.

01:19:17.120 But still, I want no work and lots of money.

01:19:23.480 Where's that job?

01:19:25.080 Low on the work side, high on the money side.

01:19:28.880 I mean, you could argue we probably already have that job, but I want one that's even more

01:19:33.180 low on the work side and high on the money side.

01:19:36.600 I love that he was in his golf cart with his wife and they're at his house in Florida and

01:19:41.640 they're zipping around and they're like, he looks so happy.

01:19:44.320 Of course, of course, he's happy.

01:19:48.540 They paid him not to work and it looks like he can work anyway.

01:19:55.660 Yeah.

01:19:56.260 His family is now set for generations.

01:19:59.000 While you, while you don't get that deal.

01:20:03.240 I'm here for you.

01:20:04.180 Like, I say we sue all of our companies.

01:20:08.900 So, wait a minute.

01:20:10.020 This would work in my...

01:20:11.100 No, you don't want this.

01:20:11.960 I don't want this.

01:20:13.060 We need to be able to work a year and get paid for four.

01:20:17.240 I mean, if I'm president, that's my slogan.

01:20:19.960 It would probably work in this area.

01:20:21.500 Oh, it would.

01:20:23.240 Let me ask this.

01:20:23.880 You know, Tucker, but I mean, other than me, you know, talking to him briefly in our

01:20:27.200 interviews, I've never talked to Tucker Carlson in my life.

01:20:29.760 Do you, what kind of person is he?

01:20:32.000 Is he the person that's going to be happy taking a giant paycheck and hanging out on

01:20:35.760 the beach?

01:20:36.300 No.

01:20:37.060 Or is he the type of person who's going to want to...

01:20:39.080 No, he's the type of guy...

01:20:40.420 Like, I couldn't...

01:20:42.460 If I was in his situation, then they said, hey, we're going to pay out your contract.

01:20:46.340 I would say, fine, but there is...

01:20:49.900 There's no non-compete...

01:20:51.420 There's nothing.

01:20:52.520 I get to do what I want.

01:20:54.460 Otherwise, I'm going to work for you because I'm going to honor my contract.

01:20:58.760 I could not go on the beach and waste four years.

01:21:03.740 And he's not like that either.

01:21:05.320 You see what he's setting up here?

01:21:06.980 He's setting up a different kind of show.

01:21:09.440 A show where he takes big issues and debates them.

01:21:13.860 That's where he's headed.

01:21:15.560 Yeah.

01:21:15.820 Looking for something a little bit more substantial, which is great.

01:21:18.660 It is something we really need.

01:21:20.160 I will say it really connects when he's talking about that thing where we have these debates

01:21:24.680 and then five years later, we don't even remember they happened.

01:21:27.540 It's so true.

01:21:28.560 We waste so much time on nonsense.

01:21:31.080 It's really, really crazy because when, you know, all the conventional wisdom has always

01:21:36.120 been, oh, online, people want it in three minutes.

01:21:39.640 Yeah.

01:21:39.760 No more than three minutes.

01:21:41.060 Explain Joe Rogan.

01:21:43.020 Explain this podcast.

01:21:44.580 Yeah.

01:21:44.840 Oh, yeah.

01:21:45.340 I mean, people will listen to this podcast every day for three hours.

01:21:49.760 I mean, I don't know how you do it.

01:21:53.160 I have to do it.

01:21:54.600 But then if I had to listen to it, too, that'd be six hours of my day.

01:21:58.620 And I just couldn't handle it no matter what they pay because I'm still working for other

01:22:04.060 days.

01:22:04.700 Right.

01:22:05.180 That's a lot.

01:22:05.920 It's a lot of work.

01:22:07.200 Yeah.

01:22:07.320 But I mean, I really I don't know how people have the time, but they're looking for longer

01:22:13.600 form, intelligent questioning and honest questioning.

01:22:19.020 And look, we try to do that every day here.

01:22:21.200 But I do think that as a society, certainly on cable news, you see a lot of this happening

01:22:28.660 where you're just I mean, he even said it.

01:22:30.600 I've even participated in it.

01:22:32.020 Of course, we have as well.

01:22:33.240 Like, yeah, everybody has.

01:22:34.840 But it is something that we could fix, you know, and I think people want and it's being

01:22:40.560 fixed.

01:22:41.080 Yeah, it is.

01:22:41.580 It's sorting itself out.

01:22:44.180 It's just the those damn commies that are trying to prop up the old system that is worthless.

01:22:52.060 They say it's about progress.

01:22:53.360 No, it's not.

01:22:53.900 They're propping up all the old systems.

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01:27:19.660 Let me tell you what happened in the Supreme Court yesterday.

01:27:21.840 The Supreme Court, according to the New York Times, and this must have killed them to write this,

01:27:28.920 The Supreme Court seemed united on Wednesday, quoting the Times,

01:27:33.200 in the last scheduled argument of its current term,

01:27:36.260 in a distaste for how county officials in Minnesota had treated a 94-year-old woman

01:27:43.240 who had stopped paying property taxes on her condominium after moving into an assisted living center.

01:27:50.420 By the time the county seized the property,

01:27:54.820 the woman, Geraldine Tyler, owed about $2,000 in taxes and $13,000 in penalties and interest.

01:28:04.300 The county seized her condo and sold it at auction for $40,000.

01:28:11.260 It not only kept the $15,000 that everybody agrees is the county's tax money and penalties,

01:28:18.280 but the remaining $25,000, that's a problem.

01:28:25.700 And listen to how the debate went.

01:28:30.860 According to Minnesota law, the entire value of any property that is seized,

01:28:39.740 even when the debts owed amounted to a small portion of it,

01:28:43.680 all proceeds go to the state or the county.

01:28:50.220 The lawyer for Ms. Tyler said the county had an obligation to repay the balance

01:28:55.640 under the Constitution's takings clause,

01:28:58.460 which said that property cannot be taken for public use without just compensation.

01:29:05.200 A debt collector may not take more than what is owed, she said.

01:29:09.560 Now, here's what happened with the justices.

01:29:15.200 They started questioning the attorneys.

01:29:19.520 And Neil Cate, y'all, he's the guy who defended the county's actions.

01:29:26.900 He said this is all rooted in historic practice.

01:29:31.080 You know, you can go back all the way to England.

01:29:37.540 And Gorsuch said, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:29:43.000 You're going back and you're stating English law,

01:29:47.220 laws on this particular thing that was enacted in 1278 in medieval England.

01:29:54.120 The guy's like, I'm just showing you historic precedents.

01:29:57.140 And he's like, Gorsuch said, the statute of Gloucester was about lands owned by the feudal lord

01:30:04.480 and what happens when a vassal fails to provide enough wheat to his lord.

01:30:09.540 I don't really understand how this is helping anybody.

01:30:14.100 So Kagan even came out and said, are there any limits to what the county can take?

01:30:23.720 She said, I mean, $5,000 tax debt and a $5 million house.

01:30:30.360 Do you take the house and keep the rest or do you have to give it back?

01:30:35.680 The attorney for the county said, well, it wouldn't run afoul of the takings clause if we did that.

01:30:44.060 Really?

01:30:44.620 Kagan pressed on asking whether the government could confiscate $100,000 in a bank account to pay off a $10,000 debt.

01:30:53.880 He said, well, cash is different.

01:30:56.460 Then Amy Comey Barrett asked whether a car could be seized and sold to satisfy a $20 parking ticket.

01:31:05.260 He said, well, there's no historic tradition supporting the parking ticket.

01:31:09.900 Well, no, they didn't have cars back in 1278.

01:31:13.880 Barrett responded, well, there weren't cars back then.

01:31:19.000 Exactly what I said.

01:31:20.580 Why would we read the Constitution to disfavor real property?

01:31:25.820 That seems counterintuitive.

01:31:29.000 Chief Justice John Roberts, the loser, said, I think you have things backward.

01:31:35.240 I think you're right that there is a difference between the value that our history places upon money and property, but I think it's the exact opposite of what you're saying.

01:31:46.600 So it looks like pretty much all of the judges immediately rejected this.

01:31:53.300 This is so important that they rule correctly and broadly on this.

01:31:59.580 We have a problem with our counties, our police, local, that they can just seize property and then not give it back to you because you were suspected of a crime and you have to prove yourself innocent.

01:32:18.800 And even when you do prove yourself innocent, they don't have to give the property back.

01:32:22.960 It is, it's absolutely un-American and unconstitutional.

01:32:30.280 This is something that I think when people start to have a problem paying their taxes, which will come, you start, you're not paying your property tax.

01:32:41.400 If they can take your $250,000 home for $20,000 worth of taxes and they don't have to give you that money back, you won't have a home.

01:32:56.900 You won't have a home because it will be a way for the county to take money so they can keep their services going.

01:33:05.140 And then the federal government can just pay for their sustenance after that.

01:33:08.580 Yeah.

01:33:09.020 That'll be perfect.

01:33:09.760 What a wonderful circular economy.

01:33:12.840 Yeah.

01:33:13.120 This is really important.

01:33:14.560 I have to tell you, Donald Trump was absolutely a godsend.

01:33:19.940 If we didn't have those three appointees.

01:33:26.300 In Supreme Court.

01:33:27.580 Supreme Court would have been completely different and we'd really be screwed.

01:33:32.500 We'd really be screwed.

01:33:34.800 Let me give you a couple of other things here.

01:33:36.860 The House Republicans passed a package on Wednesday to raise the debt limit through early next year.

01:33:45.700 However, it comes with a catch.

01:33:48.380 You have to reduce the government spending.

01:33:51.860 Now, the Democrats said, that is ridiculous.

01:33:56.480 That's going to put us in the poorhouse.

01:33:58.940 There's no more food in the cupboards.

01:34:01.800 Really?

01:34:03.080 Really?

01:34:03.200 Really?

01:34:03.220 The legislation called the Limit, Save, Grow Act of 2023 passed 217 to 215 with no Democratic support.

01:34:16.820 It was that close.

01:34:17.740 McCarthy says, we can't sit back and ignore the problem like the president has.

01:34:22.480 We want to sit down.

01:34:23.300 We want to work together.

01:34:24.600 That's exactly what this bill does to put us into an ability to negotiate.

01:34:29.900 The bill comes in response to the U.S. approaching its debt ceiling as early as this summer.

01:34:34.960 It might even come closer to May or early June.

01:34:40.720 Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has warned of an economic catastrophe.

01:34:45.160 Now, listen, this is your Treasury Secretary saying, if we don't come up with an agreement for the debt ceiling, it will be an economic catastrophe.

01:34:58.600 So what's being done?

01:35:01.760 Listen, the Republicans have a bill that they have set up that takes away some of the just grotesque spending.

01:35:12.720 OK, you're not getting the new IRS agents.

01:35:16.260 We're not giving you 80 million dollars for new IRS agents.

01:35:20.080 You're we're also going to cut way, way back on all of these green things that you're doing and that you hid in the Inflation Reduction Act.

01:35:29.440 So don't tell me you got it passed with the American people.

01:35:32.280 The American people didn't know what it was.

01:35:34.340 And you've been on the road even saying that.

01:35:38.040 So this isn't something the American people were for.

01:35:41.440 So we're going to save four point eight trillion dollars over the next year if they will pass this.

01:35:48.240 Joe Biden says, I'm not signing it.

01:35:50.320 I'll veto it.

01:35:51.220 It's not going to it's dead.

01:35:52.460 It's not going to pass the Senate and it's dead.

01:35:55.020 And he said, I want a clean budget bill.

01:35:58.900 I want a debt ceiling bill that is clean.

01:36:02.360 No conditions.

01:36:04.440 Go screw yourself, man.

01:36:07.060 I'm so sick of these people in the administration spending our money.

01:36:12.180 I mean, I heard them giving, you know, for green energy, a billion dollars.

01:36:18.240 He just gave a billion dollars to China.

01:36:22.540 How?

01:36:23.520 Why doesn't any of this have to go through Congress anymore and be debated?

01:36:27.200 How can the president just release a check for a billion dollars to a country that many of us know to be an enemy of the United States?

01:36:37.820 How can he spend our money like that?

01:36:41.500 And he's saying, nope, I want clean.

01:36:44.780 I'm sorry, dude.

01:36:45.900 That's a dictatorship.

01:36:47.980 And obviously, at four point eight trillion dollars, the Republicans are, in my case, I don't think tough enough, but at least they're standing up and they're being tough on this.

01:37:01.940 You're not going to negotiate at all.

01:37:04.480 And then you're going to blame the Republicans.

01:37:08.540 That's what's happening.

01:37:10.380 You have to call your congressman.

01:37:12.960 I mean, at 217, these people will fold like cheap suits if they don't know that you're behind them.

01:37:20.640 It's important to call in the good times, maybe even more important in the good times.

01:37:26.320 You should call your congressman and thank them for voting for this reduction of the deficit and the debt ceiling limit.

01:37:38.700 Call them and say, we're in your we're on your side.

01:37:42.020 Don't give in.

01:37:45.280 Don't give in.

01:37:47.200 If they fold again, there's nothing left of the Republican Party.

01:37:52.660 There's nothing left.

01:37:53.480 If you can't stand and accomplish anything, these guys are they are governmental and economic terrorists.

01:38:07.580 You have your secretary of treasury saying you have to pass this.

01:38:13.700 It has to pass.

01:38:15.180 I don't believe that, but that's what she's saying.

01:38:17.540 Economic catastrophe.

01:38:19.440 They're coming to the table and say, we'll pass it.

01:38:22.500 But there are some concessions here.

01:38:24.720 You have to work with us.

01:38:26.300 The president saying he will not negotiate.

01:38:30.420 That's terrorist stuff.

01:38:32.800 An economic terrorist.

01:38:34.560 And think of how low our standards are at this point.

01:38:38.380 Like your first standard would be don't go into debt.

01:38:41.660 Right.

01:38:41.860 Like that.

01:38:42.220 No more.

01:38:42.880 No more.

01:38:43.280 We're not raising the debt ceiling.

01:38:44.580 No, no.

01:38:45.000 I'm not even saying that your first standard would be don't go into debt.

01:38:48.040 There's no ceiling to hit because you don't you spend within your means.

01:38:51.680 Right.

01:38:52.020 Right.

01:38:52.560 We've completely abandoned that.

01:38:55.020 Obviously, then you have the debt limit and you could say, well, maybe the debt limit was set for to say, OK, well, let's come up with a really high number that we should never bump up against.

01:39:03.700 But that's not even what this is.

01:39:05.760 No.

01:39:06.080 So forget that standard, too.

01:39:07.940 This standard, the debt ceiling as it exists right now, is designed to just, hey, when we get close to this point, we will all realize we're out of control and we need to make some changes to slow this down.

01:39:21.300 Right.

01:39:21.520 And then we can even raise it.

01:39:23.720 The Democrats won't even hit that standard.

01:39:25.640 They won't even say, let's just come together and figure out a couple of things to slow this down.

01:39:31.260 They are saying we want to be able to spend any amount of money at any time.

01:39:35.880 And what's the point of having a debt ceiling at all if you're going to have that standard?

01:39:41.020 I think the Democrats made that argument a couple of years ago.

01:39:44.320 They want to get rid of it completely.

01:39:45.840 Get rid of the debt ceiling.

01:39:47.020 Just let us spend.

01:39:47.800 Just let us go full MMT.

01:39:49.480 That is crazy.

01:39:51.140 Crazy.

01:39:51.340 Just crazy.

01:39:53.140 Republicans, good step one.

01:39:56.260 Don't lose your nerve.

01:39:58.860 All right.

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01:40:58.800 Then you get this from Reuters.

01:41:01.580 The world is not dumping dollars.

01:41:05.360 Experts say that this hullabaloo about the world weaning itself off the U.S. dollar, hard numbers show that's not true.

01:41:15.520 Now, which one of these do you believe?

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01:41:24.440 May I suggest, if you happen to agree with me that this is inevitable, as that one opinion piece said, you want to protect the money that you have.

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01:43:09.880 Did you see what Steve Bannon is actually suggesting Donald Trump consider?

01:43:28.280 Yes, I did see that proposal.

01:43:30.960 Not excited about it.

01:43:32.700 This is nuts.

01:43:34.400 He's saying Trump should pick as his vice president RFK Jr.

01:43:39.880 Now, there is some sound thinking here.

01:43:46.300 You just read a poll to me off air that shows Biden at what?

01:43:51.700 Yeah.

01:43:52.060 RFK.

01:43:52.580 Let me give you this.

01:43:53.440 This is an Emerson poll.

01:43:54.700 Um, and it has, uh, Joe Biden at 70% of the vote in the Democratic primary, RFK Jr. at 21, which is really high for a candidate that is not, you know, just in and not a mainstream.

01:44:11.840 Yeah.

01:44:11.940 Not thought of as a real threat to Biden.

01:44:13.880 21% is high for a challenger.

01:44:16.680 And Emerson, Emerson may not be reliable on this particular poll, but let's take it at face value.

01:44:22.060 Let's say it is.

01:44:23.220 I think this speaks volumes because he's running.

01:44:27.180 It's hard to say with a straight face.

01:44:29.080 He's running as an anti-establishment, small government kind of guy.

01:44:33.840 He wants to break up the deep state.

01:44:35.960 He wants to break up the CIA.

01:44:38.420 He wants to, you know, go after the CDC.

01:44:41.640 He wants all these experts out.

01:44:44.220 Okay.

01:44:44.540 That's what he's running on.

01:44:47.140 Well, that's the same thing that Donald Trump is running on.

01:44:50.480 So that says, if this poll is right, that says 21% out of the box without really hearing a case, 21% are saying, I want somebody to break it up of Democrats of Democrats that shows we have more in common than ever before.

01:45:12.000 So if that were true, and I can't base it on one poll, but if that were true, politically, just by the numbers, that would make sense.

01:45:21.720 But I wouldn't, I would hate to lose President Trump and receive a die hard liberal.

01:45:31.920 I mean, die hard.

01:45:34.780 Arrest people who don't, who oppose climate change.

01:45:37.700 That's literally one of the things he said many, many times over the years.

01:45:41.000 If you don't go with the allegor version of climate change, you should be arrested and thrown in prison.

01:45:47.580 And he means it.

01:45:48.360 He means it.

01:45:49.020 He means it.

01:45:50.220 So, no.

01:45:51.820 I'm sorry, Mr. Bannon.

01:45:53.540 I think that's a very bad idea.

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01:47:30.080 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:47:33.360 There's a couple of things that I want to address.

01:47:36.120 This one is a Disney filed suit against Ron DeSantis yesterday because they say he's just playing games and doesn't have right to do what he did.

01:47:49.280 And I thoroughly disagree with that.

01:47:54.060 But I don't think people understand what Ron DeSantis did.

01:48:00.780 You know, I think they just see, oh, he got into a fight with Disney and he could lose.

01:48:04.980 And I think it would be very bad for him to lose this.

01:48:08.960 It's a fascinating political story for sure.

01:48:11.180 Because, you know, what's the argument for Ron DeSantis to be president?

01:48:14.340 It's not that he fights with the media.

01:48:16.460 I mean, Donald Trump already fights with the media.

01:48:18.540 And the argument for DeSantis is that he does these things in a more professionalized way and he scores real victories.

01:48:27.440 Where Trump, again, I'm not saying I endorse this argument, but like Trump gets in fights.

01:48:33.260 He's, you know, thinking about himself.

01:48:35.140 He likes the press coverage.

01:48:37.060 But there's no policy win that comes out of that.

01:48:39.960 No real pushback.

01:48:41.880 Where the argument with DeSantis is competency, right?

01:48:45.760 The argument is he's running a state.

01:48:47.840 He's winning elections by big margins.

01:48:49.420 And when he enters in one of these big fights, he wins it and he scores a real policy victory.

01:48:57.280 You know, if he loses this against Disney, there's a huge dent in that idea.

01:49:03.540 And one person who will notice that is named Donald Trump.

01:49:07.600 And he will be pointing this out all the time.

01:49:10.180 He's already started.

01:49:11.060 Correct.

01:49:11.300 Now, I don't know that you can say at this point that DeSantis has lost this.

01:49:17.360 You know, the back and forth is still up in the air.

01:49:20.140 Now, Disney's suing.

01:49:21.440 But that's going to go on probably through this entire campaign.

01:49:24.040 So, people need to understand what happened.

01:49:28.320 Where, what deal you're even talking about.

01:49:31.400 It's 1964.

01:49:32.820 And somebody is buying up all the land in Florida.

01:49:37.900 Just hundreds and hundreds and thousands of acres.

01:49:43.200 And the press is starting to speculate.

01:49:46.320 And they think that it's maybe Ford, McDonnell Douglas, Boeing, or Lockheed.

01:49:52.840 Disney isn't even in the running.

01:49:55.060 Because Disney was courting St. Louis.

01:50:00.100 And he was serious about making another Disneyland in St. Louis.

01:50:06.240 But because St. Louis is known for brewing companies.

01:50:11.520 And he wouldn't allow beer in the park.

01:50:14.840 He knew that was going to be a sticking point.

01:50:17.260 So, he continued to negotiate with them while they decided on Florida.

01:50:22.640 Okay.

01:50:23.040 Now, in St. Louis, he would have built another just Disneyland.

01:50:27.980 But Walt was driven by, he didn't want the theme park.

01:50:33.700 That's not what he was building in Florida.

01:50:35.620 It was called the Florida Project.

01:50:37.640 And he did not want to build the theme park.

01:50:40.900 His brother forced him to build the Magic Kingdom first.

01:50:45.060 Because he's like, your dream is very expensive.

01:50:48.960 And we're going to have to pay for it.

01:50:50.880 So, we're selling tickets so you can do the other.

01:50:53.240 And so, what Walt wanted was complete rights to the land.

01:51:00.760 Disney World is the closest thing you will ever get to like a Native American reservation.

01:51:11.900 Where the United States has really nothing to say.

01:51:16.280 Florida has nothing to say.

01:51:18.580 It's as close to its own country as possible.

01:51:24.640 And that's because Disney was selling everybody that he was going to go to St. Louis.

01:51:31.740 And every state wanted him.

01:51:35.060 Because they saw what it did to Anaheim and to California.

01:51:39.680 And Disney had said in like 64, when I do this, I will make this the number one destination in the world.

01:51:49.500 So, he held all of the cards in 64.

01:51:52.940 So, he starts buying things up.

01:51:55.080 Nobody knows.

01:51:55.680 Behind the scenes, he's talking to Governor Burns, I think was his name, in Florida.

01:52:02.580 And he makes all kinds of deals with Florida without anybody knowing it in the press.

01:52:09.980 He had the right to have a nuclear power plant on Disney property.

01:52:17.220 He had unbelievable rights, all trash he could take care of and take care of all the trash in process.

01:52:28.420 Because he was going to do all of these experiments to redesign American cities.

01:52:35.160 So, he wanted this large scope where he could do just about anything.

01:52:42.060 That's what Ron DeSantis is taking away.

01:52:47.220 Okay.

01:52:48.080 Now, Walt died in 66, I mean 65, the governor and Walt Disney and Roy Disney said,

01:52:56.620 Hey, Disney Florida Project, it's coming to Florida.

01:52:59.540 And it was a big hoopla.

01:53:01.300 But in 66, Walt dies.

01:53:05.360 Walt's the guy who knows what he was planning.

01:53:09.440 He's on his deathbed.

01:53:11.180 And he's talking to his brother.

01:53:12.860 And he says, Please promise me that you will build Epcot.

01:53:16.480 And he said, Okay, yes, I will, Walt.

01:53:19.300 But no one understood it.

01:53:22.120 No one understood it.

01:53:23.640 He was truly redesigning cities.

01:53:28.980 The way everything worked, from traffic to housing, to paint, to everything, everything.

01:53:38.960 When he dies, all that goes away.

01:53:42.800 Because Roy is like, I don't, nobody understood that vision.

01:53:46.220 He only had it.

01:53:47.200 We can't do that.

01:53:49.260 Nobody understood him.

01:53:52.000 He was so far ahead of his time.

01:53:53.340 So, he dies a year after this is given, this power.

01:53:58.040 Now, this power allows Disney to be their own police, everything.

01:54:04.880 Okay?

01:54:05.340 It gives them, most importantly, it gives them the power of no inspections.

01:54:13.080 So, you want to build a ride?

01:54:17.780 There's no delay on that.

01:54:20.320 You don't have to wait for county approval or anything.

01:54:24.620 You have to, Disney approves it.

01:54:27.040 Okay?

01:54:27.240 And they have that because Walt was so trusted, and the brand was so strong, and Florida was

01:54:35.340 so desperate.

01:54:37.220 Well, Disney made them the number one destination.

01:54:41.360 But they should not have any of those rights.

01:54:43.880 Imagine being universal.

01:54:47.360 SeaWorld.

01:54:48.840 All of the hoops and red tape that you have to put up with if you want to build a new ride.

01:54:55.380 All of the inspections, all of the money that goes to the county and the state for all of

01:55:02.100 the license, for everything you have to do.

01:55:05.200 Disney doesn't have to do that.

01:55:07.740 Is that fair at all?

01:55:13.080 First of all, the reason why they have those privileges ended in 1966.

01:55:18.760 They have kept those privileges, and they've been decent stewards of their park and the

01:55:26.400 land, etc., etc., but it has become an unfair advantage the minute other parks started to

01:55:34.960 be built around Disney.

01:55:37.460 Now it's a public-private partnership.

01:55:41.400 Now the state has partnered with Disney, and really, they can do anything they want because

01:55:49.320 it's completely unfair competition.

01:55:53.620 So when he's arguing with Disney, and Disney starts to get involved in politics, DeSantis,

01:56:02.960 it wasn't something that was vindictive.

01:56:07.160 It was like, okay, really, you're going to cross into politics.

01:56:11.740 You know what?

01:56:12.100 I think you've gotten too big for your britches, and let me look into you guys.

01:56:18.920 What kind of special deals do you have?

01:56:22.440 DeSantis, I don't know if he even knew about the history of the, I think it's the Reedy

01:56:27.580 Creek Council.

01:56:29.780 I don't even know if he knew the real history before he started looking into it.

01:56:33.780 This is something that should have been dropped a long time ago.

01:56:36.700 If you believe in the free market, but they're suing him and saying that they deserve that,

01:56:43.820 and that's the deal.

01:56:44.660 It was a deal in 1965 for Walt, not Roy, for Walt.

01:56:52.060 And I think you could argue, look, as a conservative, moving closer to that for all the parks might

01:56:58.040 be a good standard, right?

01:56:59.740 Like, not just singling out one.

01:57:03.360 Correct.

01:57:03.960 Like, giving other parks the rights to be a little bit more innovative and do their own

01:57:08.740 thing as well.

01:57:10.180 Maybe not that entire package they gave Walt, but like, I think lowering red tape is a great

01:57:15.380 idea in most of these circumstances.

01:57:17.680 But these other places don't have those rights.

01:57:20.160 Right.

01:57:20.340 And you can't give, just because Disney, that I know of, hasn't had a lot of people die on

01:57:26.920 the Pirates of the Caribbean.

01:57:28.380 Yeah.

01:57:29.000 They should still have to go through inspections.

01:57:31.820 What about the racism of the splashdown ride?

01:57:33.880 Well, the splashdown, that was so.

01:57:36.600 That's the state not being involved, I'll tell you that right now.

01:57:39.480 But like, because I agree with you here, right?

01:57:42.620 I agree that they should not have special rights.

01:57:45.980 But we are kind of kidding ourselves if we think the reason he changed this policy or

01:57:52.700 attempted to change this policy on Disney.

01:57:55.780 I think he got it through the legislature.

01:57:57.480 He did.

01:57:58.220 But then they, before the changeover happened, they passed a bunch of ridiculous, like, for

01:58:04.180 the next hundred years, we get to do whatever we want type of restrictions, right?

01:58:07.480 It's hard to follow this stuff exactly, and everyone's kind of giving their own piece of

01:58:11.480 this.

01:58:12.020 But the bottom line is, Ron DeSantis is not doing this because he thinks the special area

01:58:19.340 is unfair on its face.

01:58:22.160 It's because of this additional controversy with the way that they were jumping into politics.

01:58:27.780 You know, when you have something that is so really great, and you know it, and others

01:58:36.720 don't really know it, and haven't been bringing it up, that's why you just want to play nice.

01:58:42.100 Yeah, play nice.

01:58:42.720 You're just like, don't notice me.

01:58:44.500 Don't notice me.

01:58:46.040 And they weren't playing nice, and they thought they held all the cards.

01:58:50.500 Well, you don't.

01:58:51.720 Because there's been a lot of politicians over the years that have wanted to reverse this.

01:58:56.260 This is not the first time people have talked about it.

01:58:58.660 Oh, yeah.

01:58:58.980 This is just the first time they actually got it done.

01:59:01.620 So, you know, it's somebody jumping up, getting in your face, and saying, really?

01:59:07.840 I'll crush you.

01:59:09.400 I'll crush you.

01:59:11.140 And the state's saying, huh, well, that's interesting.

01:59:14.900 I don't have to crush you.

01:59:17.420 I'm just going to take away all those favors, because right now, you created the political

01:59:23.320 environment.

01:59:24.020 So, I have the support to change that right now.

01:59:29.240 They've been trying for decades, but everybody liked you, and so it could never be changed.

01:59:36.420 But now, you've made yourself unlikable, and I'm not holding the dogs at bay.

01:59:42.560 Go ahead.

01:59:43.720 Take it from them.

01:59:44.500 But, but, if, because I think every conservative was on board with that, or most of them, right?

01:59:51.480 Saying, yeah, you know what?

01:59:52.800 They stepped in it, and they should have to pay a punishment.

01:59:55.740 And he said, I can make them pay a punishment.

01:59:58.700 But then they, right before this changeover, did something to allow themselves to have many

02:00:05.000 of these rights for a very long time in the future.

02:00:07.540 And if his stance was, I will show you my power, and they said, it's not going to work

02:00:14.540 on us, and now they're suing, if he can't find a way to present this to the voters as

02:00:20.960 a win, it's going to look bad for him, and it's going to be an anchor on this campaign.

02:00:25.640 It's going to be bad, but especially because people don't understand how unfair the business

02:00:32.340 practice is of Disney.

02:00:33.740 Yeah.

02:00:34.340 And that it was, this is not something new.

02:00:36.660 This has been argued about for a very long time, and so they think, oh, he's just being

02:00:41.380 a bully.

02:00:42.220 No, he's letting them, they created the situation to where that could pass, and it will be a

02:00:49.500 problem, because Donald Trump will make it a huge issue.

02:00:52.660 Oh, he will make sure everybody knows.

02:00:54.140 Oh, yeah.

02:00:54.480 He'll make that a huge, huge issue.

02:00:56.560 So, and again, like, so far, the answer has been, you know, you've heard rumors of like,

02:00:59.880 ah, we might build prisons on Disney property.

02:01:01.920 It's like, I don't think that's the way you're going to get a win out of this.

02:01:04.680 He's got to find something to reverse what they did, and it's, I don't know what the

02:01:09.160 legal ramifications of that, but he needs to find that way.

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02:03:22.540 Um, it's in Alabama.

02:03:24.840 There were four people killed.

02:03:27.120 32 others injured.

02:03:29.780 Four of them critically.

02:03:32.120 Okay?

02:03:33.000 It happened at a dance studio with a 16-year-old.

02:03:38.240 It's one of the largest shootings in American history.

02:03:42.940 It happened April 15th.

02:03:45.420 Have you heard of it?

02:03:47.400 What's wild about this is all of the kids that were killed are black.

02:03:53.860 But all of the people that killed them were also black.

02:03:58.860 They have now arrested six people.

02:04:02.000 And they're all charged with four counts of murder.

02:04:05.380 Okay?

02:04:07.080 But this isn't getting any headlines.

02:04:09.400 In fact, the BBC ran the story and said a community mourns and everyone in the picture was white.

02:04:17.820 CNN did the same thing.

02:04:19.480 Gosh, guys, why don't, why aren't you standing on this story?

02:04:27.180 And why are you only featuring white people in that story?

02:04:30.660 You want to talk about racism?

02:04:32.660 You want to talk about using black people and not caring?

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02:04:39.540 The Glenn Beck Program.

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