The Glenn Beck Program - Uniquely Presidential？

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.500 All right.

00:00:09.120 Well, the the first trial in Robert Mueller's Russia investigation is kicking off today.

00:00:16.380 Today, they start picking the jury members for Paul Manafort.

00:00:21.420 Paul Manafort, if you remember, was President Trump's former campaign chairman.

00:00:24.880 He came in towards the very end and then he was booted out.

00:00:30.000 He was the first courtroom casualty in what feels like an investigation that has been going on since the 1700s.

00:00:36.280 But there are three things that we have to talk about here on what's going on.

00:00:39.860 The first is, what is Manafort being charged with?

00:00:43.600 The second question is, what does Mueller hope to gain here?

00:00:47.660 And the third one is, what is the real issue that everyone is going to miss?

00:00:53.660 OK, so let's start with number one.

00:00:55.760 Manafort is being charged with bank and tax fraud.

00:01:00.580 He has been a lobbyist and political political consultant, I think, since the Jackson administration in 1830.

00:01:09.700 He has worked with presidential campaigns, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H.W.

00:01:16.480 Bush and Bob Dole.

00:01:17.960 And he has also lobbied on behalf of, let's say, some not so questionable leaders.

00:01:28.940 How's that?

00:01:30.100 One of these leaders include the now deposed former president of the Ukraine.

00:01:34.860 And that is where Manafort got caught up in the Mueller probe.

00:01:40.660 Manafort has been really dirty and on the side of Russia in the Ukraine.

00:01:45.920 The charges against Manafort alleged that he made more than 60 million dollars working in the Ukraine.

00:01:53.220 Then he routed that cash through a shady bank in Cyprus and set up shell companies and disguise the money as loans received from these phony companies.

00:02:04.820 Doing it this way helped him avoid U.S. taxes.

00:02:09.060 Unfortunately, that's also highly illegal.

00:02:11.980 So this is the case in a nutshell against him.

00:02:16.780 So what does it have to do with President Trump?

00:02:20.160 Nothing.

00:02:21.600 Nothing.

00:02:23.600 That's one of the problems.

00:02:26.080 You can you can make the case that this trial doesn't even belong to the Mueller investigation.

00:02:30.880 Does catching some dirty laundry, dirty lobbyist laundering money have anything to do with the Trump campaign and the Russian collusion?

00:02:39.600 Well, no, absolutely not.

00:02:44.500 Unless.

00:02:46.420 Manafort, when he came on, helped or influenced and tried to get the the GOP platform changed.

00:02:55.880 To make the sanctions go away on Russia.

00:02:59.620 And it was a real shock to the GOP that that was the only thing the Trump campaign asked for, was a change in the platform to go softer on Russia.

00:03:11.000 Was that Manafort?

00:03:12.340 Was Trump even involved?

00:03:15.200 You have to assume that Manafort is found guilty because, I mean, he looks really, really guilty.

00:03:21.560 He's been a bad guy long, long before he joined Donald Trump.

00:03:25.960 Now, Mueller is probably hoping that Manafort's lips get loose during that time.

00:03:31.860 But so far, he hasn't said anything.

00:03:34.120 If he has anything on the president, that's when he's going to get it after he has been convicted.

00:03:41.500 Manafort may actually have something Mueller can use against President Trump.

00:03:45.660 I doubt it.

00:03:46.500 But I mean, he might.

00:03:48.440 But the real issue here is that I think a lot of people are going to miss what this trial is really all about.

00:03:55.960 They're going to make this about Donald Trump and collusion and Russia.

00:04:01.020 It isn't.

00:04:02.480 This trial is about the dirty world of U.S. lobbying.

00:04:07.100 This isn't a Republican or Democratic issue.

00:04:10.500 This is a problem that crosses all aisles, all ideologies.

00:04:16.100 There is real dirt in Washington.

00:04:18.980 And people are getting very, very rich.

00:04:21.660 And they're getting rich with money that comes from countries that really don't like us.

00:04:29.080 They're all lining up together to feed at the same trough.

00:04:32.940 U.S. political operatives are working in foreign countries, influencing their elections.

00:04:37.720 And then they're back here at home, working for different foreign countries to influence our own elections.

00:04:44.860 It is out of control.

00:04:47.600 And if the press has any kind of common sense decency and patriotism left in them, they will make sure that that remains the real issue that comes to light in the Manafort trial.

00:05:06.940 It's Tuesday, July 31st.

00:05:13.900 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:05:16.800 Jason Buttrell is with us, and he is our chief researcher and foreign relations chief.

00:05:25.140 And been watching Manafort because we've been watching Russia for so long, long before Donald Trump probably even knew Manafort's name.

00:05:36.100 Tell me a little bit about Manafort that we don't know, Jason.

00:05:40.860 So I think one of the biggest ties is like, how are people tying him to Russia, Russian government officials, all that stuff?

00:05:48.540 Because that seems kind of murky.

00:05:49.640 But he is tied to Russian officials, is he not?

00:05:55.000 I mean, isn't he?

00:05:56.200 He is, you know, he was the lead guy for the president of the Ukraine, who's now been deposed, who is best friends with Vladimir Putin.

00:06:07.100 So he was Putin's basically handpicked person to be the president of Ukraine.

00:06:11.600 So that was Putin's strategy for basically taking back and influencing Ukraine was Yanukovych, the deposed president.

00:06:18.080 And Manafort was the guy sent there basically to ensure that he was going to be elected.

00:06:23.600 But it even goes beyond that.

00:06:24.900 It goes to actual confidence of a confidants of Vladimir Putin.

00:06:29.760 And this person was actually the reason why he ended up getting caught in all of this.

00:06:34.600 But Manafort met up with a guy named Oleg Deripaska, I believe is how you pronounce his name.

00:06:40.340 He used to be the richest man in Russia.

00:06:42.720 He is an aluminum and industrialist oligarch in Russia.

00:06:47.320 I think he had about $26 billion in fortune before the financial crash.

00:06:53.100 After 2008, that went down to $5 billion.

00:06:56.220 He got destroyed.

00:06:57.980 Lost a lot of influence in Russia, but slowly started bringing it back.

00:07:01.140 So he's back on good terms with Putin.

00:07:03.380 But this man met up with Manafort and showed him basically the blueprint for how you funnel dirty money into Cyprus banks.

00:07:14.680 And that's how you're going to keep all this stuff off the radar.

00:07:17.060 And that's how you're going to be doing a lot of this work for us in Ukraine.

00:07:21.400 He's the one that said, yes, you create these shell companies.

00:07:24.720 You have them write these phony loans.

00:07:28.000 How do we know this?

00:07:28.640 So this is all in the indictment.

00:07:30.480 This all came through.

00:07:31.760 When this first started coming out, it came out from what was called the Black Ledger,

00:07:36.600 which was what they found in the former president of Ukraine's, I think, mansion.

00:07:41.240 I'm sorry, not in his mansion, in the party headquarters.

00:07:43.900 Right.

00:07:44.100 And so they found this ledger, which showed all these dirty, like, cash payments that they were using.

00:07:49.640 It would actually say, right there in black and white, used to bribe the head of this party.

00:07:54.700 You know, or used to, I mean, they were not trying to hide it.

00:07:57.520 Right.

00:07:57.640 But Manafort's name was written as a recipient to a lot of these checks.

00:08:01.700 So you could see it.

00:08:03.300 It's not hidden.

00:08:04.340 And the interesting thing is this stuff is coming out.

00:08:06.740 As this is coming out, Manafort should be laying low.

00:08:09.720 He should be laying low.

00:08:10.620 He should not be doing a thing.

00:08:12.020 You would think that he would move to Cyprus or something like that and just, you know.

00:08:16.660 Enjoy your $60 million.

00:08:18.340 Enjoy it.

00:08:18.880 Dye your hair.

00:08:19.780 Correct.

00:08:20.280 You know, grow a beard.

00:08:21.480 Or stop dying your hair.

00:08:22.800 Right.

00:08:25.820 But no, what does he do?

00:08:27.420 He goes and jumps on the most highest profile job that he could in the entire world.

00:08:32.320 Why do you think he did that?

00:08:34.240 It makes no sense.

00:08:35.240 Right.

00:08:35.600 I mean, I can't.

00:08:36.340 That's the one part of this.

00:08:38.200 You look at it because he was dirty.

00:08:40.260 This is the reason why when Donald Trump brought him on to his campaign and he said, I've only got the best people around me.

00:08:45.860 And we rang the bell and went, no, Manafort is a really bad, bad guy because we knew all of this.

00:08:53.340 And I just could not put it together on why Manafort would do this unless, I mean, unless he was doing, you know, the bidding of somebody and trying to get Trump elected because he knew that it would mean a lot more money to him.

00:09:15.400 Okay, so, yeah, and Stu, we were talking about this yesterday, but I believe people like Manafort are just that arrogant.

00:09:22.460 I don't think that he really thought that he, I thought he would cover his tracks.

00:09:25.840 He'd been taught by the best on how to hide this stuff.

00:09:27.800 But then I don't think he even, he did this, the Trump job for free.

00:09:32.300 But to men like Manafort, to people that have been in this business of political influence and this dirty lobbying world, money doesn't, is not as valuable to them as the influence that they're going to gain in that position.

00:09:46.080 Sure.

00:09:46.200 Yeah.

00:09:46.420 It's a couple other things, too.

00:09:47.880 A, he joins this campaign in a time where things are really bad, right?

00:09:52.940 Lewandowski is on his way out.

00:09:54.700 It does not look like they're going to win.

00:09:56.360 So, he joins this campaign at a time of where everyone believes they're going to lose the election.

00:10:03.660 So, I mean, he does not get this much scrutiny.

00:10:05.720 He probably still gets trouble, but he doesn't get this much scrutiny without Trump actually winning.

00:10:10.320 And number two, if you think of the career arc of Manafort, who worked very closely with Roger Stone, is it's a constant struggle to be in the in crowd in D.C. and constantly being pushed out of it.

00:10:21.900 That has been the Manafort-Roger Stone career arc.

00:10:24.880 They started out, you know, early on.

00:10:27.060 They were close.

00:10:27.840 They were one of the biggest lobbyist firms in D.C.

00:10:31.120 Before that, they worked closely with people like Reagan as they were coming up.

00:10:35.280 And they become so corrupt that they get pushed out of that inner circle.

00:10:42.920 I mean, that's corrupt.

00:10:43.840 If you are so corrupt that the people in D.C. are saying, you're too corrupt, that's pretty corrupt.

00:10:50.700 He's really corrupt.

00:10:51.720 And here, I think he sees this as his path back into that club, you know, where there is tons of money and tons of influence.

00:11:01.460 He doesn't necessarily need to get it from the campaign.

00:11:04.240 Right.

00:11:04.320 But, you know, he took at that time, that was a job that no one wanted.

00:11:08.520 No one wanted to be involved with this campaign at that time.

00:11:11.940 And now everyone's changed now.

00:11:13.440 But at that point, it was a it was tough to find someone as qualified as Manafort to run a delegate operation.

00:11:19.000 So now let's let's separate Donald Trump from this, because I think I think Donald Trump has a way of conflating everything and it's wrong.

00:11:30.420 And the press is conflating everything.

00:11:33.320 Manafort is a separate issue.

00:11:35.680 He was dirty before he joined Donald Trump.

00:11:39.460 There's no evidence that he did anything dirty while he was with Donald Trump.

00:11:43.680 It's everything he was doing before and all of his connections to Russia.

00:11:48.240 So it has nothing to do with Donald Trump except one thing.

00:11:54.280 And it was a it was right after he joined the campaign that was during the convention and the GOP had to look at their their platform.

00:12:06.080 And one of the planks of the platform was to go after Russia and to be tough on sanctions.

00:12:12.080 And the only thing the Trump administration asked for was that plank to be removed, that they were going to change their strategy on Russia and the Ukraine and everything else that made absolutely no sense at the time.

00:12:28.380 To me, it still doesn't make any sense unless Paul Manafort.

00:12:33.020 That's one of the reasons why he got into the campaign was to try to steer it.

00:12:37.580 Now, that doesn't mean that Donald Trump knew about it or anything else.

00:12:41.940 But to me, that's the only connection to anything when it involved in the campaign.

00:12:48.200 And that doesn't mean that Donald Trump was part of it.

00:12:52.640 And any thoughts?

00:12:53.680 Well, and again, very, very hard to prove.

00:12:55.820 Yeah. Also, like even if he does come out, let's say he's he's been tried, convicted and they're waiting on his sentencing.

00:13:01.400 And Mueller comes to him and says, all right, so now that, you know, this is happening, you know, you're either going away for the rest of your life.

00:13:08.200 Yeah. Or we're going to let you off on immunity or some kind of, you know, hand slap if you can prove that he was involved in some kind of.

00:13:17.080 How do you prove it? Unless you have email.

00:13:19.440 Yes. Unless you have email or maybe another Cohen videotape or something.

00:13:23.640 Right. Who knows?

00:13:24.320 You don't have any way to prove that.

00:13:26.440 And I don't think that I don't think Cohen was was thinking that way.

00:13:31.300 You know, I don't think he was thinking about, hey, I'm going to get in trouble.

00:13:33.900 And I mean, Cohen Cohen is probably the kind of guy that is is he's so slimy that he when he's doing stuff for for people, he wants to make sure I got a little insurance policy.

00:13:46.300 You know, instead of I got an attorney or I've got it in a safe.

00:13:51.060 He's just I got it under my couch in my living room.

00:13:53.980 I got a tape of you.

00:13:55.480 But he's he seems to be the guy who makes sure that he has some protection in case things go wrong.

00:14:03.440 I don't think Cohen's that guy.

00:14:05.040 I think you're right.

00:14:06.120 I think he is so arrogant.

00:14:07.720 He's he's Leslie Moonves.

00:14:09.340 I mean, all of these guys, the hell are they doing?

00:14:12.440 What are they doing?

00:14:13.640 It's just about power.

00:14:15.400 And they think they can get away with it.

00:14:17.820 Yeah.

00:14:18.580 Yeah.

00:14:19.080 I it's it's funny.

00:14:20.400 All the people that are working.

00:14:21.500 Let's let's say they do have some kind of let's let's say there's something that says Manafort was trying to lobby and say, let's ease some of these sanctions.

00:14:28.860 And then we'll, you know, change and change some of our policy towards Russia and all of a sudden think about all the people that are involved at this point.

00:14:37.260 You talked about, you know, this is a larger issue, you know, a Republican Democrat issue of all the people that are mixed up in foreign lobbying.

00:14:44.940 I mean, it's amazing.

00:14:45.820 Just think about all the people that were working on them on the Magnitsky Act.

00:14:48.320 There was Fusion GPS who was working with the DNC, who was working with Hillary Clinton's campaign directly.

00:14:56.820 Then there was also groups like the Podesta Group who are also meeting with Fusion GPS.

00:15:02.680 You've got Paul Manafort, all these people.

00:15:06.000 Everyone is working on the same thing.

00:15:09.380 It's like it doesn't really have anything to do with getting anyone elected, but they're all working on behalf of Russia.

00:15:14.340 And in the Podesta Group's case, they didn't register as a foreign agent saying this.

00:15:19.680 Manafort didn't.

00:15:20.300 Why didn't Podesta, as soon as that connection came out, what did he do?

00:15:24.880 He shut his very successful firm down and just disappeared.

00:15:29.600 Is anybody even looking into that?

00:15:32.300 We are on TV today.

00:15:34.280 So you got that going on for you.

00:15:35.960 But this is the clearest case, I think, that the media doesn't actually care about Russian collusion.

00:15:41.060 We keep hearing these words.

00:15:42.000 You know, Trump keeps saying there's no collusion.

00:15:43.300 There's no collusion.

00:15:44.340 Well, this trial is about Russian collusion in many ways.

00:15:49.100 It's just not with Trump.

00:15:51.080 Yeah, it's got nothing to do with Trump.

00:15:52.120 It's got nothing to do with the election.

00:15:53.680 It's Manafort has colluded seemingly with the Russians over a long period of time.

00:15:58.580 It was just way well before Trump was involved with Manafort.

00:16:03.080 And if they actually cared about Russian influence, and if that was what this was about, the media would be obsessing about this trial.

00:16:10.300 Yeah.

00:16:10.380 But they don't care about it because it's not it's not really doesn't seem like the end game is taking Trump out.

00:16:14.980 Correct.

00:16:15.480 It's not about they don't care about it because it doesn't take Trump out.

00:16:18.700 But I think it goes a step further, as you'll see tonight on TV.

00:16:21.240 It also includes the Democrats.

00:16:24.760 Yeah.

00:16:25.020 I mean, the collusion with Russia and not on an election just to accomplish Russia's goals.

00:16:32.260 The FBI has stated there is a mountain of evidence.

00:16:39.900 OK, so how come we don't talk about any of that?

00:16:42.460 Because a lot of it revolves around the Democratic Party.

00:16:47.300 Thanks, Jason.

00:16:48.160 We'll look for that update tonight at five o'clock on the Blaze TV.

00:16:52.460 You don't want to miss it.

00:16:55.180 Also, Kevin Williamson is going to be joining us tonight.

00:16:58.780 We're going to spend a few minutes with him and I think he's also on the news and why it matters tonight.

00:17:04.040 Oh, really?

00:17:04.580 Yeah.

00:17:05.020 He's you know, he's the guy who was so evil that the Atlantic hired him and then fired him, I think, four or ten days later.

00:17:15.780 He's got a lot to say tonight.

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00:18:49.260 So it looks like Iran is starting to collapse as soon as we as soon as we pulled the deal, pulled away from the deal.

00:18:56.960 Their their monetary system began to collapse.

00:19:00.180 It is it's it's going to end up looking like Venezuela, which is really good news, you know, in some ways.

00:19:07.280 Yes, in some ways.

00:19:08.160 It's not good for there, but I mean, long term, it probably is.

00:19:11.760 Yeah, maybe, maybe.

00:19:13.220 If this regime can be removed.

00:19:15.080 Correct.

00:19:15.920 So we'll we'll continue to watch that for you.

00:19:18.380 Venezuela is melting down.

00:19:19.800 But the good news is we aren't headed in that same direction.

00:19:23.000 No, we told you yesterday that the new health care for all.

00:19:28.520 The Medicare proposal that the left is starting to make is only by their estimates.

00:19:35.120 How much?

00:19:35.500 Thirty to two trillion dollars.

00:19:37.280 Thirty two trillion dollars.

00:19:38.800 OK, over a 10 year period.

00:19:40.580 Now, just so you know, thirty two trillion dollars.

00:19:43.040 Sure, it sounds like a lot, but there's a little more to that.

00:19:47.120 And we're going to get into that.

00:19:48.720 We're going to get into that here in just a second.

00:19:51.580 Stand by.

00:19:51.960 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:19:59.100 So before we move on, we have to take care of an argument here that Stu and I have been

00:20:02.580 having for the last couple of days.

00:20:04.500 We got a we got a tweet in.

00:20:06.200 It said, Glenn, my birthday is 918.

00:20:09.420 How about an autographed copy of your new book?

00:20:12.120 I'll post and boost the post that it's better than Bill O'Reilly's book.

00:20:17.100 Unless, of course, Bill sends me an autographed copy, in which case I'll declare his better.

00:20:22.120 Now, I mean, you had me.

00:20:24.000 It was your birthday and the birthday on the day your book, the book comes out.

00:20:27.700 I'm thinking, you know, will you give him a and Stu says no.

00:20:31.080 No, that's that's stupid.

00:20:32.460 You should not give him a book because it's his birthday on the same day your book is coming

00:20:35.640 out.

00:20:36.020 Well, I just thought it would be nice.

00:20:37.300 Now, I am a little bit drawn in by a second part of his proposal, which is he will say our

00:20:42.980 book is better than Bill O'Reilly's book, right?

00:20:45.860 Well, and he'll post it to his Twitter following and that there's some real return there, unlike

00:20:50.440 your socialist plan to just give him things for nothing.

00:20:53.880 Benji, welcome to the program.

00:20:57.360 We're well, very good.

00:20:59.740 I mean, except we're torn.

00:21:01.000 First of all, happy birthday soon.

00:21:03.740 But Stu says that, you know, you really have to work on it.

00:21:07.260 And I see the not so thinly veiled threat here about what you're going to say about Bill

00:21:13.380 O'Reilly's book.

00:21:14.220 But there's not a chance Bill O'Reilly is going to send you a free book.

00:21:17.420 Not not a chance.

00:21:19.840 Well, you know, I'm a capitalist.

00:21:22.240 You're a capitalist.

00:21:23.380 I may only have 64 Twitter followers, but they would run through a wall for me.

00:21:27.840 But right.

00:21:29.960 The 64.

00:21:31.180 Wait a minute.

00:21:31.480 Wait a minute.

00:21:31.760 The 64 Twitter followers would run through a wall for you.

00:21:36.320 Really?

00:21:36.720 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:21:39.180 And you know how this would play out.

00:21:41.060 If Bill outsells you, he would come out with his next book called Killing Beck's book.

00:21:46.600 Oh, I know.

00:21:47.680 No, I know.

00:21:48.420 You don't have to.

00:21:49.420 Well, tell me a little bit about yourself, Benji.

00:21:52.760 I'm a certified pharmacy technician and a preacher.

00:21:56.580 I live in Kentucky.

00:21:59.420 So there's not a whole lot of meat on the bone there, but that's who I am.

00:22:03.680 Right, right.

00:22:04.320 And you've been a subscriber to The Blaze for a long time?

00:22:08.920 Oh, yeah.

00:22:09.460 Since day one.

00:22:10.440 It was GBTV.

00:22:11.780 Wow.

00:22:11.920 The first day it was available, I subscribed to it.

00:22:14.360 Wow.

00:22:14.740 Now, I hear, I see here, because we did some checking into you.

00:22:18.080 I see that you're having surgery on Friday.

00:22:21.140 What are you having surgery for?

00:22:22.920 Yeah.

00:22:24.800 This is actually a minor surgery for me.

00:22:28.840 I had a major back surgery when I was 30.

00:22:32.160 I had a heart attack at 35 and another heart surgery later.

00:22:36.040 So this is actually a minor surgery by my standards.

00:22:39.260 It's a sliding hiatal hernia and acid reflux surgery.

00:22:44.940 Wow.

00:22:45.300 Okay.

00:22:46.160 Okay.

00:22:46.580 You don't sound like a good investment.

00:22:49.020 I mean, we only have till Friday where we can count on you.

00:22:54.180 I mean, you know, sure, an acid reflux surgery doesn't sound bad, but you could go at any

00:22:59.140 time just based on your record.

00:23:01.320 There's an easy way to solve this, I think, Glenn.

00:23:03.140 And what we do, tell me if this sounds doable to you, Benji.

00:23:07.940 We, you first of all, part one, guarantee 64 book sales.

00:23:13.000 Every one of your followers will purchase the book guaranteed.

00:23:15.800 Number two, if something happens to you in this surgery, you take part of whatever you've

00:23:20.000 saved in your life, and that goes to purchasing the rest of the 64 books, whatever hasn't been

00:23:24.240 sold.

00:23:25.420 So if he dies.

00:23:26.120 If he dies, then yes, whatever inheritance was going to your kids or whatever goes to

00:23:31.380 Glenn and his books.

00:23:34.020 Yeah.

00:23:34.540 I mean, you can run a statistics on it, but I would guarantee that.

00:23:38.220 You'd guarantee that.

00:23:39.500 You'd guarantee that.

00:23:41.480 Okay.

00:23:42.020 Well, I think giving one book away for 64 guaranteed book sales, that's, you know, that's, I'll

00:23:48.880 give you the money for a hamburger today if you'll pay me Tuesday.

00:23:52.580 I think that always works out.

00:23:54.620 Benji, hang on just a second.

00:23:57.040 We'll get you a book.

00:23:58.440 Thank you so much for listening and being a fan for so long.

00:24:01.800 I wish you the best.

00:24:03.360 I mean, there is, I mean, you know, you're not putting your affairs in order or anything

00:24:08.520 for the surgery, are you?

00:24:11.060 Well, you know, look at, look at Pat.

00:24:13.660 I mean, his last broadcast could have been a few weeks ago.

00:24:16.620 He could have went at any time.

00:24:18.080 Yeah.

00:24:18.240 And he's, you know, you're right.

00:24:20.420 And Jeffy's been around for what, 500 years now?

00:24:24.040 Come on.

00:24:24.180 Yeah.

00:24:24.280 There's something wrong with Jeffy.

00:24:25.620 I think he's made a pact with somebody, but Benji, thank you so much.

00:24:29.000 God bless you.

00:24:29.660 And hang on the phone.

00:24:30.580 We'll get your address and stuff and I'll send you a book.

00:24:32.200 And we'll get you that book after we get the signed contract return in triplicate.

00:24:35.360 Thank you, Sue.

00:24:36.960 Thank you, man.

00:24:37.980 That's why Stu's the executive producer and I'm just the schlub.

00:24:41.060 You know what I mean?

00:24:42.300 That's great.

00:24:43.000 Congratulations.

00:24:43.520 You've sold 64 books so far.

00:24:45.140 That's it.

00:24:45.640 You got that.

00:24:46.180 You know how much trouble I'm in with Bill O'Reilly?

00:24:48.840 We have to come up with something.

00:24:50.980 I'm open for options.

00:24:53.140 We have to come up with something.

00:24:54.680 His book is released the same day my book is released.

00:24:58.480 His book is about the Nazis.

00:25:00.880 Nazi books always sell really well.

00:25:02.720 Always sell really well.

00:25:04.160 Always sell.

00:25:04.860 His killing series is one of the biggest successes of all time.

00:25:09.100 Yes.

00:25:10.140 Yes.

00:25:10.540 You're in trouble here.

00:25:11.980 Yes, I am in trouble.

00:25:12.860 And you need people like Benji.

00:25:13.980 I cannot have Bill O'Reilly.

00:25:16.620 It'll be right.

00:25:18.200 Oh, he's going to torture you constantly.

00:25:19.340 Oh my gosh.

00:25:19.760 It'll be a nightmare.

00:25:21.260 I don't care if it's one book sold more than his.

00:25:24.020 It has to be.

00:25:25.180 Otherwise, he is an uncontrollable monster.

00:25:28.400 So I'm counting on you.

00:25:30.920 That's coming your way.

00:25:31.820 I'm counting on you.

00:25:32.780 Come up with something.

00:25:33.880 I don't know what it is.

00:25:34.680 Maybe we have Hillary Clinton come in and buy a bunch of books and they they just keep

00:25:39.020 it in a warehouse along with all of her books.

00:25:40.840 I don't care what it is.

00:25:42.440 I don't care what it is.

00:25:43.500 The good thing is that we're going to have a lot of extra money nationwide to spend on

00:25:46.520 books because of Medicare for all.

00:25:48.520 Right.

00:25:48.840 It's going to save us a bunch of money.

00:25:50.660 OK, well, it's actually I don't think so.

00:25:53.220 Here's the thing.

00:25:53.900 It's 32.

00:25:54.640 According to the Democratic estimates, it's thirty two trillion dollars over 10 years.

00:26:01.080 But that's not really counting everything.

00:26:04.420 That's just the basic foot in the door.

00:26:08.240 Medicaid for all.

00:26:09.640 So if you need if you need anything else, if which you always do, the number is how much

00:26:18.860 when you add it, you add up all of it.

00:26:21.820 Well, and that's been kind of the back and forth of the numbers is important.

00:26:25.340 And it's been tough to understand, because if you remember, the first estimate came out

00:26:28.880 at thirty two point six trillion dollars and the left laughed that off and they said

00:26:34.100 there's no way it's going to cost that much.

00:26:35.540 And then the other study from the left showed that it would only cost thirty two trillion.

00:26:40.660 So it was way less.

00:26:42.100 Right now.

00:26:42.940 Now, if you look, however, at the actual study, there's a minor issue here in that basically

00:26:49.780 what is it what it does is assume that everyone gets Medicare and then all of the doctors and

00:26:56.740 hospitals except except the 40, 30, 30 to 40 percent lower payments that Medicare provides

00:27:04.340 and they're going to love that private insurance.

00:27:06.120 Yeah, they're going to love that.

00:27:07.000 There's a good argument to be made that they're not going to be that appreciative of that.

00:27:11.980 Oh, no, no, no.

00:27:12.940 These these these are servants.

00:27:14.900 They they love to.

00:27:16.020 Yeah.

00:27:16.600 Doctors, they will absolutely take that, you know, a 40 percent pay cut hospitals, you

00:27:24.400 know, G.E.

00:27:25.980 40 percent pay cut on on, you know, their new products.

00:27:29.740 They're all going to love it.

00:27:30.800 A lot of people really like that.

00:27:32.400 Yeah.

00:27:32.600 A lot of people really like paying all of that.

00:27:35.660 Now, what they're trying to spin this out, and it's an amazing magic trick in which they're

00:27:39.500 trying to say that everyone's just going to accept this and it's going to work with no

00:27:43.460 change in your service, which is obviously absurd.

00:27:46.000 I mean, if we fall for this, if we fall for this, please, somebody put me in a capsule and

00:27:51.600 just shoot me into space.

00:27:53.320 Yeah, it's it's that stupid, right?

00:27:55.260 I mean, especially in a world where we are currently seeing what's happening in Venezuela.

00:27:59.680 Yes.

00:27:59.940 The fact that we have an ongoing example of these policies being played out going on

00:28:06.620 right now with their million percent inflation rate and people eating dogs off the street

00:28:13.420 because there's no food, if you're lucky, zoo animals disappearing because people are eating

00:28:19.640 them.

00:28:20.580 That's going on in the world right now.

00:28:22.560 At the same time, this country is is entertaining Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:28:27.800 It's it's an amazing world we live in.

00:28:30.320 But when you look at the Medicare for all part, again, this is just health care for one country.

00:28:35.380 They go through and the same study does the estimates of what really is going to happen

00:28:40.240 if if you try to do this.

00:28:43.140 And the actual cost appears to be about forty six trillion, an additional fourteen trillion

00:28:49.580 dollars in cost.

00:28:50.880 Now, of course, that does not cover other things.

00:28:54.480 There's, you know, for example, Medicare, if you're on Medicare, you know, this doesn't

00:28:58.460 pay for every dime of your health care.

00:29:00.600 It does not cover everything that you're paying.

00:29:03.280 You likely have supplemental insurance on top of that.

00:29:06.280 You make another cost.

00:29:07.400 You make this sound expensive.

00:29:08.920 But forty six trillion dollars.

00:29:10.760 We're the richest country in the world.

00:29:13.060 Forty six.

00:29:13.500 I don't know if that's true.

00:29:14.760 Absolutely.

00:29:15.380 It is.

00:29:15.660 Do it without question.

00:29:16.960 So I want to question it because we owe a lot of money.

00:29:19.960 Yeah, it doesn't matter.

00:29:20.660 Forty six trillion dollars.

00:29:22.900 That is only as much as every dollar, every ruble, every one, every clamshell spent, earned

00:29:32.480 or made in the entire world for a year.

00:29:36.760 OK, that's just that's fifty five trillion dollars.

00:29:39.720 This is only forty six.

00:29:40.980 That leaves nine trillion dollars left.

00:29:43.640 And all you have to do with that nine trillion is everything else in the United States, plus

00:29:48.260 all things, including health care around the world.

00:29:50.780 But you do get now this is ten years compared to one year.

00:29:54.180 So it's still fifty five trillion dollars.

00:29:56.820 What is that?

00:29:57.440 I mean, come on.

00:29:58.460 Who's going to have a problem?

00:29:59.480 It's one country.

00:30:00.600 It's it's four percent of the population spending, you know, the entire GDP of the entire world

00:30:09.800 on one thing that doesn't even cover all of it.

00:30:13.540 I mean, that sounds reasonable to me now, that sounds I will say some people will say

00:30:18.100 maybe we shouldn't spend forty six trillion.

00:30:20.120 And look, let's be honest about it.

00:30:21.460 In the forty six trillion dollar estimate is, for example, a quote unquote savings of

00:30:26.960 over a trillion dollars in administrative costs.

00:30:30.000 Holy cow.

00:30:30.480 Now, because government's going to be so efficient with this money, they're going to save trillions

00:30:35.000 of dollars.

00:30:35.820 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 No, on red tape.

00:30:36.980 Oh, on red tape and lowering prices of different medications.

00:30:40.540 You know, medications and all of the things that are sure like because we all know when

00:30:46.540 someone says to you, you know what, this is totally free spend, whatever you want.

00:30:51.500 You're not going to you're going to totally monitor your spending and make sure you don't

00:30:54.500 get any extra tests.

00:30:55.760 You're going to make sure you don't get anything.

00:30:57.460 You don't have to because the government will.

00:31:00.980 Right.

00:31:01.120 Yeah.

00:31:01.340 They eventually will have to run out of money.

00:31:04.220 Just ask Charlie Gard.

00:31:05.400 You know, if it's not, you know, it's not completely needed.

00:31:08.340 And we don't think there's a chance that you don't need it.

00:31:11.900 You don't need it.

00:31:12.580 So it's going to be good.

00:31:13.480 And by the way, taxes now, the highest, the highest amount we have ever raised is just

00:31:20.160 over three trillion dollars in a year.

00:31:22.000 And it was just this last year.

00:31:23.820 That's the highest income tax we have ever raised as a nation.

00:31:28.900 OK, we're already spending four trillion dollars.

00:31:34.900 So we're already a million dollars more than we can raise.

00:31:39.580 They want to add an additional three point two.

00:31:43.280 So, so wait, so if this is over 10 years and it's three point two, it's 32 trillion.

00:31:52.120 That means it's three point two trillion dollars a year thereabouts.

00:31:57.660 Where we get that money.

00:31:59.400 Does that mean we only have to double our taxes and we are still a trillion dollars shy?

00:32:05.780 Lucky we're the we're the richest country in the world or something.

00:32:09.000 Yeah.

00:32:09.200 But give me let me give you the case of two services here quickly.

00:32:12.600 OK.

00:32:13.240 Remember a few years ago, I don't know, seven or eight years ago, I would say.

00:32:17.540 Yeah.

00:32:17.760 You wanted to watch a specific episode of a TV show.

00:32:21.320 Right.

00:32:21.540 And it wasn't available on demand.

00:32:22.960 You would go to iTunes.

00:32:23.920 Remember this?

00:32:24.480 Yes.

00:32:24.880 And you'd buy an episode for a couple bucks.

00:32:27.700 And it was a pretty cool, pretty cool deal.

00:32:29.700 Right.

00:32:30.120 It was it was it was something that was great.

00:32:32.680 And then sort of Netflix took over.

00:32:34.380 Right.

00:32:34.740 And then you could watch you could pay nine nine nine nine a month and watch as much as you

00:32:38.540 wanted.

00:32:39.420 When are you watching more TV?

00:32:41.380 When did the term binge watching start?

00:32:43.900 It started after you had the subscription and you could go as much as you want.

00:32:47.580 Right.

00:32:47.940 You could watch as many shows as you want all in a row.

00:32:49.980 If you had to purchase each individual episode like you did back in the day with iTunes or

00:32:54.320 20 or 30 dollar a month, you know, per series, you're not going to you're not going to take

00:32:59.140 chances on it.

00:32:59.840 You're not going to go and get all the this is what's happening with health care.

00:33:03.040 It has happened over and over again.

00:33:04.860 People don't care what the thing costs.

00:33:07.060 And when the government when it's your fundamental human right to have your health care costs

00:33:12.120 paid for by those evil rich people, you think you're you're not going to you're not upspending

00:33:16.600 in these situations.

00:33:17.400 Of course you are.

00:33:18.400 It's going to be way more than forty six trillion dollars for it.

00:33:21.240 We're going to dream about the day where it only cost forty six trillion dollars.

00:33:26.220 See, I disagree with you because you will run out of money.

00:33:30.000 Yeah, there's no money.

00:33:31.020 And so what will happen is we will enter.

00:33:35.480 Into the realm of the British health care system on day one, and that's there will not

00:33:40.800 be enough money.

00:33:42.360 It's true.

00:33:43.520 I mean, it dries up quickly and then you have just a terrible health care system is what

00:33:47.040 we've seen all around the world.

00:33:48.320 Yeah, it's almost like eight years ago.

00:33:50.680 Somebody predicted all of this.

00:33:52.260 And oh, I remember it was you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you

00:33:58.280 and you and you and me.

00:33:59.960 It's pretty amazing.

00:34:01.560 Here it is.

00:34:02.260 And by the way, the people who designed Obamacare, who also predicted that this would eventually

00:34:07.240 turn into exactly what we're talking about now, a single payer system.

00:34:10.780 And remember Barack Obama early on in the campaign talking about that's what he actually

00:34:15.580 wanted.

00:34:15.980 And all these things were called hate speech because I guess he was black or something.

00:34:20.720 I don't I don't know how health care policy has anything to do with that.

00:34:24.360 But that's what we were told at the time.

00:34:26.020 And then here we are with them proposing exactly that and now dominating the conversation.

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00:36:03.440 Sean Spicer.

00:36:10.860 He was the press secretary for the president.

00:36:14.420 He's going to make a lot of going to make a lot of money on a new book called The Briefing.

00:36:19.580 He's in with us next.

00:36:21.100 We'll talk to Sean Spicer when we come back.

00:36:24.460 Glenn Beck.

00:36:30.160 It's Tuesday, July 31st.

00:36:32.940 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:36:34.920 I am interested in history.

00:36:36.920 And the older I get, the more interested I am in documenting the voices of the people who

00:36:43.840 actually were there or made history.

00:36:46.460 And one of the guys who played a very important role in history in the last few years has

00:36:54.760 been Sean Spicer.

00:36:55.880 He, of course, was the the press secretary right off the bat for Donald Trump.

00:37:01.680 He has a new book out called The Briefing Politics, the Press and the and the president.

00:37:06.880 Sean, are you a fan of Melissa McCarthy?

00:37:10.880 Good morning, Glenn.

00:37:14.500 How are you?

00:37:16.120 Yeah, sure.

00:37:16.980 I will.

00:37:17.420 I am a fan.

00:37:18.340 You are.

00:37:19.560 They did.

00:37:20.020 She's a talented person that played a role.

00:37:24.720 Several roles.

00:37:26.100 Right.

00:37:26.960 I thought I actually thought it was very funny.

00:37:30.360 I thought she was very, very funny and kind of, I think, kind of made you a little more

00:37:34.800 likable in some ways because it just kind of made the whole thing into, I don't know,

00:37:39.340 something we could laugh about.

00:37:41.580 Yeah, I'm not really sure what that means that we started.

00:37:46.500 OK, well, let's let me look.

00:37:48.420 The first one, the first there's definitely the first one was not only funny, but I think

00:37:51.680 well-deserved.

00:37:52.520 I think, you know, and again, she's playing a role.

00:37:54.340 So, yeah, it's not like but but but but I think the subsequent ones started to get a

00:37:59.580 little personal and mean, which is, you know, you know, a big boy, I can take it.

00:38:04.960 It comes with the territory if you're going to a job like that.

00:38:07.340 Um, the let's start on the one where you just said, you know, the first one maybe was

00:38:11.960 deserved the the the the the explanation that you have in the book is is fascinating to

00:38:18.560 me about, you know, the inaugural numbers and you trying to figure out what your role

00:38:25.960 is give me a real quick synopsis of of that and what happened.

00:38:30.120 So here's the literally the 62nd version, obviously, the further big ones in the book.

00:38:35.780 But the first thing I think people have to understand is the mindset.

00:38:38.940 We'd constantly been under attack as conservatives in general.

00:38:42.820 But secondly, just our ground game wasn't good enough.

00:38:45.280 Our data wasn't good enough.

00:38:46.740 We were never good enough.

00:38:47.820 As Hillary was, no matter what we did, no matter what we won, no matter what we accomplished

00:38:51.340 the night before the inaugural or the day of the inauguration, the press goes out, starts

00:38:55.180 talking about how Martin Luther King's bust had been removed.

00:38:57.560 Oops, not really.

00:38:58.720 But then you can't unring that bell.

00:39:00.560 So there's this mindset.

00:39:01.660 And I think people need to understand that, that we are feeling under siege.

00:39:05.640 The next morning, the president wakes up and he starts looking at now footage, not of what

00:39:10.840 he did signing executive orders, not about his agenda, but about like, oh, well, on this

00:39:16.300 swath of land, there was not more.

00:39:18.320 There were less people than Obama.

00:39:19.400 And I'm scrambling on a Saturday morning of a three day weekend after inaugural when I think

00:39:26.180 two federal employees throughout the government were probably working.

00:39:29.580 And I say that respectfully, but it's just my point is that we're trying to figure out

00:39:33.520 how do we talk about that there actually was a ton of enthusiasm for this new president

00:39:38.880 and his agenda.

00:39:39.740 And I'm scrambling trying to find out any anyone who can tell me about web traffic or

00:39:45.240 people, anything.

00:39:47.980 It's OK, look, let's build a case that shows that like this is petty.

00:39:51.860 Who cares how many people were standing in a particular area?

00:39:54.940 Let's actually talk about the fact that people were streaming it live.

00:39:59.000 They were watching it in different ways that they hadn't in the past.

00:40:02.020 And yes, they are.

00:40:03.120 There was excitement and enthusiasm for this new president.

00:40:06.520 And it was it was sort of like, you know, one of those MacGyvers where you're trying to

00:40:10.960 take a bunch of random things and build some kind of like and I was literally I write in

00:40:17.300 the book and I'm pretty, I think, straightforward that this was a day that I wish I could do

00:40:21.720 over again.

00:40:22.520 But the goal wasn't to deceive or do anything like that is a lot of people are the key.

00:40:26.780 It was trying to say this is ridiculous.

00:40:29.060 Look at all of these other ways that people are showing their excitement or interest.

00:40:33.220 So is the job of the press secretary now, in hindsight, is the job of the press secretary

00:40:41.140 to defend the president and speak for the president, whether or not, you know, that's

00:40:48.760 true or not to just speak for him?

00:40:51.900 Or is it to say, look, here's where the, you know, you know, misperceptions are or here's

00:40:59.320 you know, let me answer this.

00:41:00.640 But when he says something like that, you just say, you know, the president speaks for

00:41:05.480 himself.

00:41:05.860 I don't I can't speak to that matter.

00:41:08.120 Which is it?

00:41:09.160 In many cases, I did say that where I'd say, you know, the tweet speaks for itself or because

00:41:13.820 again, the question to your question is, what is the question?

00:41:18.560 So in other words, if somebody says, what does the president believe?

00:41:21.840 Then my job is to say the president believes or feels or what have you the following.

00:41:26.700 If they ask a fact of government, which is, you know, has this been confirmed or does

00:41:32.580 two plus two equal four?

00:41:33.800 Then my job is to say, yes, two plus two equals four or, you know, or if it's not a true

00:41:39.600 supposition, then to say that that's not true.

00:41:42.220 But in the case of when the question revolves around what the president believes or what the

00:41:47.560 president's views are on something, then it is strictly to basically say to the president

00:41:52.060 privately, here's what they're asking.

00:41:53.480 Here's what I'd recommend.

00:41:54.180 How do you think knowing here's my recommendation?

00:41:57.460 He gives it back to you.

00:41:58.520 And then ultimately, once the president or any principal for that matter makes a decision,

00:42:02.920 you then say the individual believes or has the following views.

00:42:07.360 Full stop.

00:42:08.300 Your job isn't to interpret this.

00:42:09.860 You know, they believe the following, although I don't agree with that.

00:42:13.440 It's not about you.

00:42:14.380 You're not your spokesperson, not an interpreter.

00:42:17.080 But they kind of want you to say, I don't agree with that, which that's not your job that

00:42:21.440 you should be fired if you say those things, right?

00:42:24.700 Sure.

00:42:25.120 And in particular, I spent a few years in the Bush administration doing trade work.

00:42:29.540 And so I would get these things all the time.

00:42:31.080 Sean, don't you believe that that's ridiculous, whatever?

00:42:34.220 And I'm like, look, I serve different principles.

00:42:37.300 And my job is to privately and give them the counsel that I think that I can share with

00:42:44.260 them advice.

00:42:45.640 But ultimately, it's to serve them.

00:42:47.060 It's not who cares whether I work for somebody who didn't share the same views as someone

00:42:50.860 else.

00:42:51.200 That's by nature going to happen.

00:42:54.300 Tell me about the day that the Steele dossier came out.

00:42:57.240 You know, here you have a president and BuzzFeed releases something that says, you know, about

00:43:03.720 golden showers and all kinds of crazy stuff.

00:43:07.340 And CNN calls you.

00:43:10.120 Jake Tapper calls you.

00:43:11.240 What was that day like?

00:43:12.460 Take us through there.

00:43:14.740 That that day goes down probably as the day when I realized that the Rubicon had shifted,

00:43:20.720 that it was now about trying to it wasn't about solid journalism.

00:43:24.280 It was really going to be a gotcha game.

00:43:27.340 And and I talk about this in the book.

00:43:29.000 Basically, I get this call from Tapper who says, hey, look, give me a call.

00:43:32.240 I want to run by you.

00:43:33.400 And I'm starting to go back and forth with him.

00:43:35.020 Hey, he says, I'm on air.

00:43:36.480 I'll call you later.

00:43:37.660 Finally, just shy of five o'clock, he says, look, we got this thing that we've got this

00:43:41.180 dossier that we're going to print.

00:43:42.640 We're aware of it.

00:43:44.360 And it makes these accusations against the president.

00:43:46.980 And I'm saying, well, hold on, because the underlying document that they're talking about

00:43:51.880 is classified.

00:43:52.500 So in order for us to be able to refute it, we have to chase down this classified document,

00:43:57.500 view it in a classified setting, and then be able to figure out what we can actually say

00:44:02.080 based on whatever the contents were and what the inquiry specifically was.

00:44:06.220 And they're like, well, you have an hour.

00:44:11.460 And so we are we are scurrying around in one of the underlying things that it talks about,

00:44:16.300 you know, in one particular case, talk about where Michael Cohen was in some place.

00:44:19.860 And I call Michael and I talk about this in the book.

00:44:21.700 And I said, do you have a passport?

00:44:23.820 And he's like, of course, I do.

00:44:24.620 I have it on me.

00:44:25.320 And I said, OK, I need you to drive back to Trump Tower.

00:44:27.720 And I didn't tell him why.

00:44:28.680 And he's like, are you kidding me?

00:44:30.380 As you know, from being up there, traffic in New York is not exactly.

00:44:33.800 Yeah, no, that's not.

00:44:34.620 And so he comes back and I open his passport.

00:44:37.000 He's like, what are you doing?

00:44:38.360 And I'm like, I want to see if you're out of the country at any point during this alleged

00:44:42.940 area.

00:44:43.240 And they the answer was no.

00:44:44.720 And I'm saying to BuzzFeed, you guys realize that, like, one of the charges here is completely

00:44:50.260 refutable because I'm staring at the documentation that shows that he had never left the country

00:44:54.660 during anywhere close to this time frame.

00:44:57.200 And it was just it was like, well, that's your response.

00:45:00.220 And then they started making accusations about what we had been briefed and a classified

00:45:04.380 briefing on.

00:45:05.040 I think it was January 5th or 6th at Trump Tower.

00:45:07.100 I sat in on that meeting and I have these reporters telling me what was briefed.

00:45:11.920 And I said, that's just simply not true.

00:45:14.120 I sat in the meeting.

00:45:15.640 I watched Jim Comey turn to the president elect and say, Mr.

00:45:19.120 President, can I speak with you privately?

00:45:20.700 The conversation lasted 60 seconds.

00:45:23.400 He didn't show him the document.

00:45:25.240 And I know that because they made a point of saying the document at this time is not

00:45:29.880 ready to be viewed.

00:45:31.140 We're not it's not done.

00:45:32.420 So we're going to just give you a heads up as to the general nature of what that there

00:45:36.340 is a document out there.

00:45:37.880 And Tappers and a bunch of these other guys are asserting that he was briefed on all these

00:45:41.680 allegations and shown this document.

00:45:43.320 It simply isn't true.

00:45:44.600 And Glenn, here's the kicker.

00:45:45.580 Since the book has come out, when Comey went on his book tour, he admits that he didn't

00:45:51.420 brief him on the actual document.

00:45:53.820 And Clapper says that Comey was the one who did it.

00:45:55.980 And all of these guys fail to actually retract any part of their story because, well, you

00:46:01.560 know, it's it's not that that's just not what they do.

00:46:05.080 Sean, did you find anyone that was in the mainstream media that you thought, OK, I really

00:46:10.880 disagree or they come to the wrong conclusions on this or that.

00:46:13.680 But they are truly trying to get to the to the truth.

00:46:19.160 You don't have to name them.

00:46:21.000 Well, I mean, I do in the book, Len, I actually say that there are a bunch of these reporters

00:46:24.640 and I name like 10 of them that I think I don't always agree with their stories, but

00:46:29.620 every time I dealt with them and sometimes it wasn't pleasant, believe me.

00:46:33.280 But I always said, like, I thought about it after the fact in the current based on what

00:46:36.900 the current environment is, I said, OK, let's just do this.

00:46:39.620 I may not like their reporting.

00:46:41.480 I may disagree with it, but it's a free country.

00:46:43.600 And every time that we had a tough story, they came and said, this is what we're reporting.

00:46:48.020 This is what we think happened based on these sources.

00:46:50.620 We would like your side.

00:46:52.100 And I thought to myself, OK, in fairness, that if they are actually being pros and saying,

00:46:58.780 look, we were given this information.

00:47:01.060 Here's what we want your side.

00:47:02.060 I at least had to give them some credit for at least doing due diligence more and more

00:47:06.620 reporters now go.

00:47:08.180 We have eight sources.

00:47:08.880 We're running with the following.

00:47:10.160 And it's like, wait a second.

00:47:11.260 Those are heavy allegations.

00:47:12.800 Can we have some time to refute it?

00:47:14.500 It's amazing to me these days what constitutes breaking news.

00:47:18.480 It's anything that they get needs to be refuted or questioned within a 60 minute time frame.

00:47:23.680 And many in many instances, that's just not possible.

00:47:27.200 They'll send you an email and say, Glenn, I emailed you an hour ago.

00:47:30.700 We're going with the story.

00:47:31.840 I mean, not that we talked to you, not that we contacted you.

00:47:34.580 They fire off an email and say, well, we sent you a note an hour ago.

00:47:38.520 So in my case, many of the meetings that I went to were classified.

00:47:42.620 You couldn't bring in electronic devices.

00:47:44.600 So you get these notes, you know, after you walk out and you go, great, I have 10 minutes

00:47:48.240 now to unpack this.

00:47:49.140 And they're like, well, we're printing it.

00:47:50.500 You're going, what's the urgency of whatever?

00:47:52.920 I mean, I get if there's a national security issue or something that's you're trying to beat

00:47:58.060 out eight people on a story that's moving.

00:48:00.160 But in many of these cases, it was just because they were they wanted to make sure that they

00:48:04.180 they got their their story up, you know, as quick as possible without necessarily ensuring

00:48:08.640 that they were right.

00:48:10.180 And they probably want to get to get the sense they wanted to get the story up before you

00:48:15.320 had the ability to come up with a defense and actually understand the full story.

00:48:19.380 Like they it's not necessarily always even about beating their competitors.

00:48:22.840 It's about getting the story up before you have a chance to defend it.

00:48:26.800 That's right.

00:48:27.400 No.

00:48:27.640 And I think more and more that's the case.

00:48:29.220 And I was like, well, where would and part of it was they were like, well, we don't want

00:48:32.400 to get tied up.

00:48:33.160 Like, I think that what it is, is they felt like the longer it was out there, the more

00:48:36.400 opportunity they were giving you to either deconstruct it, to push back and fight it.

00:48:40.460 And so they could say in their story, we reached out for comment.

00:48:43.400 They didn't get back to us.

00:48:44.300 And yet for the reader, it looks like, oh, that sounds fair.

00:48:48.460 But to anyone on the inside who knows what's going on, you're like, literally, you gave

00:48:51.600 me 60 minutes to unpack a really complicated issue and provide any kind of alternative set

00:48:59.280 of scenarios or facts to say this is actually why this occurred.

00:49:04.400 So in many cases, when you throw out an accusation until you have time to talk to the people, to

00:49:09.060 read the documents, to understand the policy at hand or where something stands in terms

00:49:12.880 of the approval process, you can't just make a snap decision.

00:49:17.020 You want to make sure you're getting it right.

00:49:18.720 And so the press is like, well, guess what?

00:49:20.380 You have 30 minutes, 60 minutes, whatever it is.

00:49:22.260 And if you don't, we're going to publish it.

00:49:23.600 Say that we asked for comment and you declined.

00:49:26.820 Sean, do we have you to the bottom of the hour?

00:49:29.520 Well, you have me as long as you want.

00:49:31.080 OK, OK, great, great, great.

00:49:32.720 So hang on the phone for just a second.

00:49:35.140 We're talking to Sean Spicer, new book called The Briefing, Politics, the Press and the

00:49:39.740 President coming up in just a second.

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00:51:24.840 Sean Spicer.

00:51:26.220 The name of the book is The Briefing, Politics, the Press, and the President.

00:51:30.880 I didn't exactly know how this interview was going to go, and Sean and I don't know each other,

00:51:38.100 and I really appreciate his honesty and openness and willingness to just take it head-on

00:51:47.720 and share with us what it was like to be in the position that he was in under attack.

00:51:55.360 Sean, welcome back to the program.

00:51:57.780 Thanks for having me.

00:51:58.440 I appreciate the kind words.

00:51:59.320 So, Sean, if I put myself in your shoes, there had to have been times to where,

00:52:06.900 even if you didn't agree with what the president was doing or whatever people were saying,

00:52:12.660 even if you didn't agree with him, there had to be times where the press was so disingenuous

00:52:18.540 that it made you just want to just stand and just beat him back.

00:52:25.900 And then at other times, there had to be times when you were so tired and the president would tweet or do something,

00:52:33.280 and you'd say, oh, dear God, I can't do this another day.

00:52:36.400 You're doing this to me now, too?

00:52:37.820 Why would you tweet that?

00:52:40.480 Did you experience either one of those?

00:52:44.000 No, both.

00:52:46.900 Okay.

00:52:53.140 Look, it was an adaptive period of my life, meaning that for all of my 25 years of doing this kind of stuff,

00:53:02.880 my job was to basically say to the people that I served, okay, here's the strategy, here are the tactics, here's the message.

00:53:10.160 Do you have any edits?

00:53:11.260 Do you have any thoughts?

00:53:11.920 Let's tweet this.

00:53:13.040 In the case of Trump, and so that had worked out well.

00:53:15.580 In the case of Trump, his view was, I'm leading the charge.

00:53:18.600 You're following.

00:53:19.860 And that's a vastly different dynamic.

00:53:22.400 And so, you know, you're right.

00:53:24.280 You'd wake up and you'd be like, okay, I'm now getting asked about, you know, this tweet or this comment,

00:53:29.600 and I have to call and say, you know, sir, what did you mean by this?

00:53:32.640 How do you want me to?

00:53:33.740 And, you know, and it's not easy because, again, most politicians basically are like, hey, should I get peanut butter and jelly or just peanut butter?

00:53:43.620 Like every decision they want crafted and thought about.

00:53:46.460 And Trump's sort of like, I'm charging the hell and you can follow.

00:53:49.640 And it's, as someone who spent a lifetime doing this, it just, it's, you realize that, like, the world that you used to live in and the way that you used to operate is not going to be the same.

00:54:02.200 So, you know.

00:54:03.220 And in some ways I would, in some ways I would think that that was good.

00:54:06.340 In other ways, you know, it would be.

00:54:09.780 And I'm not talking about necessarily the policies where, you know, he finds out, you find out, oh, he's firing him.

00:54:16.440 He just fired, you know, not that kind of stuff.

00:54:19.040 I mean, for instance, can you take me through the Access Hollywood Day?

00:54:24.600 Yes.

00:54:25.000 Thank you for reliving that.

00:54:26.900 I'm sorry.

00:54:29.460 So, I say, so here's the thing.

00:54:32.820 I'm, and it's funny how, like, even now the little things get overlooked, but we're on our way to the St. Louis debate, which was on a Sunday.

00:54:41.480 So, it's Friday afternoon, boarding a plane at Ronald Reagan Airport.

00:54:44.960 And I'm on the phone with Jack Dorsey of Twitter.

00:54:48.780 His digital team, my digital team, Twitter had just backed out of a deal because Hillary Clinton hadn't agreed to do the same kind of strategy buy thing that we're doing.

00:54:59.280 And I'm thinking, oh, my God, I have the, this is going to be amazing.

00:55:01.960 We're going to blow up Twitter for their bias, and it's going to continue to reveal how these folks are, you know, favor the left, try to undermine the right.

00:55:10.900 I've got them dead to right.

00:55:12.120 And I'm walking down the tarmac getting on this plane, which was going to be the last plane to St. Louis that had availability.

00:55:19.160 And I look down, and I get a text from our chief of staff that says, I need to talk ASAP.

00:55:23.680 And I'm like, you know, you need to check your email.

00:55:25.680 And I look down, and there's a story that's now broken that says, you know, there's this tape.

00:55:29.820 And I'm like, I'm going into my communicator crisis mode.

00:55:32.900 I'm like, okay, but you know what?

00:55:34.020 Like, that's what he said, she said.

00:55:35.780 We know, you know, like, I'm just mentally trying to think, how are we immediately going to combat this thing?

00:55:40.700 And then the next email goes, there's video.

00:55:43.780 And I'm like, so I get on the phone with our chief of staff, and she's like, you need to get back to the RNC ASAP.

00:55:49.620 And I was like, look, if I get off this plane, I don't make it to St. Louis.

00:55:53.500 Like, and I can't, we can't do that.

00:55:55.380 Like, my job is to help coordinate the thing.

00:55:57.240 So I get on this plane with no Wi-Fi.

00:55:58.840 Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:56:01.200 I've got to take a break here.

00:56:02.980 So I don't mean to stretch out the agony for you, but we'll pick it up there with Sean Spicer.

00:56:08.860 The name of the book is The Briefing, Politics, the Press, and the President, when we come back.

00:56:17.700 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:56:21.200 Sean Spicer, the name of the book is The Briefing, Politics, the Press, and the President.

00:56:26.540 And he is, and I'm going to be straight up with you, almost didn't take this interview.

00:56:33.380 And only because I thought I would hear the same stuff.

00:56:37.460 And I don't know, Sean.

00:56:41.360 And somebody on my staff said, no, I think you should, I think you should take him because I think there, I think there's more than what you're seeing.

00:56:50.160 And I'm glad I did.

00:56:51.520 And in fact, we were just in the break and I'd like to invite you down, Sean.

00:56:54.960 I'd like to spend a couple of hours because I think there is much, much more to you than what you're ever going to be, I don't know, allowed to show.

00:57:10.480 And we'll get into that later.

00:57:11.820 But anyway, so we laugh.

00:57:14.960 Let me just say thank you, Glenn.

00:57:16.620 That means a lot.

00:57:17.260 But I, you know, the funny part is, just so you do know, we have met.

00:57:21.840 I'm sorry.

00:57:23.260 No, no.

00:57:24.040 Here's why, though, because you're a busy man.

00:57:25.500 I was running, coordinating Fleet Week in New York.

00:57:29.440 We had a bunch of sailors.

00:57:30.200 Oh, my gosh.

00:57:31.140 All they wanted to do was to meet Glenn Beck.

00:57:33.520 I remember you now.

00:57:35.020 Not only this, not only that, but you arranged dinner for them.

00:57:38.700 You brought it all up.

00:57:39.440 And you said, I don't just want them to come to my show.

00:57:41.840 I want to take care of these sailors when they come in for Fleet Week.

00:57:45.760 And it was off camera.

00:57:47.640 It was Glenn Beck doing this because he wanted to, not because he needed to, not to get some kind of PR blitz out of it.

00:57:55.080 And I just, I will never forget that because that's the point.

00:57:57.440 You didn't know who I was.

00:57:58.940 You didn't know who these sailors were.

00:58:00.360 But you made that day and that evening so special for those folks that were up there for Fleet Week.

00:58:06.460 And I will never forget that because that's the point.

00:58:09.660 You don't know people.

00:58:11.280 You have a ton of listeners and supporters.

00:58:13.320 And you do the right thing for them.

00:58:15.340 And that's why I was so grateful to have you to be on your show today because I know that even when the camera's off, when the radio mics are gone, that you do the right thing for so many people.

00:58:26.440 And I appreciate that.

00:58:27.740 Thank you.

00:58:29.280 Okay.

00:58:30.360 I would like to, I'd like to ask you if you would come down and spend a couple of hours with me and do a different kind of interview.

00:58:38.720 Because I think you have a lot to share and really none of it about, you know, Trump.

00:58:47.180 But, you know, please consider that.

00:58:50.320 I would.

00:58:50.760 Thank you.

00:58:51.300 So, Sean, we left you on the tarmac trying to get to St. Louis.

00:58:57.220 The Access Hollywood tape just broke.

00:58:59.640 Uh, and you're told you got to come back and you say, if I don't get on this plane.

00:59:07.000 So, you're now on a plane without Wi-Fi.

00:59:10.500 Yeah.

00:59:11.060 Landed St. Louis, you know, turn the phone back on and it's literally like text message galore.

00:59:15.820 Email go like, what's your comment on this?

00:59:17.680 Is he dropping out?

00:59:18.540 What's going to happen?

00:59:19.200 And, uh, you know, I'm calling back.

00:59:21.380 My job at that time was to help coordinate the logistics for the, for the, for the general election debates.

00:59:26.160 And I'm, it is literally duct taping the organization together, right?

00:59:31.160 Then it was, oh, so-and-so's flight is no longer of, I mean, people were bailing like you wouldn't believe.

00:59:37.820 Suddenly, you know, a lot of people didn't get on planes and they're like, I'm not going to, I can't make it to St. Louis.

00:59:42.160 Suddenly my mother just got sick and, and, and, and you are in, I mean, that may be the biggest crisis situation I felt I have faced as a communicator, say some of the stuff at the white house.

00:59:56.060 And it, and I'm thinking to myself, okay, if this is any other candidate, here's what you do.

01:00:02.020 You get out there, you do this, you apologize.

01:00:04.020 And what happened that weekend that I write, I think fairly extensively in the book about this, like, I mean, at one point we're getting ready for the debate.

01:00:12.300 And he's clearly on, and I'm thinking to myself, how do you do this?

01:00:16.120 You've just been accused, not just accused of it, it's on video.

01:00:20.080 And Bannon organizes this thing.

01:00:22.200 He says, we're fighting back.

01:00:23.960 And I'm like, what are you talking about?

01:00:25.760 And no one, all of a sudden, they're like, there's a press conference about to start.

01:00:29.240 And I'm like, with who?

01:00:30.420 They're like, Trump.

01:00:31.900 And I'm like, we're 20 or whatever hour before a debate.

01:00:35.960 What do you mean we're having a press conference?

01:00:37.840 He's like, yeah, Bannon brought all of the Clinton accusers to the debate secretly.

01:00:42.660 And then they're going to speak.

01:00:43.920 And then he's going to sit them in the debate.

01:00:45.200 I'm going, oh, my God.

01:00:46.900 Like, what is going on here?

01:00:49.620 And it was just another example of Trump fighting back in a way that I've never – and you can – people can agree with him or disagree with him.

01:00:59.040 But if you just stop for a second and analyze how he has plowed through some of these events in ways that I would never have recommended to any client, it's mind-boggling to me.

01:01:12.060 Because if someone said to me today, I saw Trump do this, I'm going to do the same thing.

01:01:16.240 I would literally just stop and try to restrain them and say, please don't do this.

01:01:20.660 Because I don't think anyone else can get away with what he does in the House.

01:01:24.920 And it's just – it doesn't – it's not – it is not some kind of tactic that people can adapt to.

01:01:30.740 He truly is a unique candidate and now president.

01:01:34.580 Yeah, it's just him.

01:01:36.380 That's the way he is.

01:01:38.820 And you can't copy it.

01:01:41.400 That's right.

01:01:42.420 So, Sean, the – you started the interview saying, you know, you didn't like the personal attacks from SNL.

01:01:54.700 At first it was funny and then it started getting very personal.

01:01:57.720 In your book, you talk a little bit about how you were working late at night at the most secure place on Earth.

01:02:04.580 But your family wasn't.

01:02:06.780 Tell me about what your family went through.

01:02:10.180 Well, someone put my house up for sale one day.

01:02:12.600 My wife calls me and says, hey, I just got to give you a heads up.

01:02:15.760 One of the neighbors called.

01:02:16.800 Apparently our house is now listed for sale on Zillow.

01:02:19.340 And I'm like, well, how much is they asking?

01:02:24.780 Before we – before we –

01:02:26.540 And they had sort of – let's just put it, not highlighted the positive aspects of living in our house.

01:02:34.360 As opposed to it was very focused on the current occupant being me.

01:02:39.200 And what made it difficult, Glenn, is I don't think I ever anticipated the level of scrutiny and intensity that I would get.

01:02:45.260 But my wife and my kids, that's another thing.

01:02:48.680 And I still think that today where I watch some of the things that happen to other people's families and say, look, I don't think it's right some of the attacks that I get.

01:02:56.840 But it's – I've kind of put myself in that role.

01:02:59.160 You as a host put yourself out there.

01:03:01.940 But when someone starts going after your kids or your family or making threats against them or driving by our house and making – it's like that's where I think you cross the line.

01:03:11.700 I tell people all the time.

01:03:12.900 I get the question.

01:03:14.220 Did you feel safe?

01:03:15.140 And I'm like, listen, my office is 25 feet from the Oval Office.

01:03:19.260 If you can get to me, we have a big, big problem.

01:03:23.080 But my wife and my kids are just hanging out there in public, and they didn't ask for this.

01:03:33.360 And that's where I was worried because I'd leave just after 5 in the morning, get home sometimes as late as 10 or 11 o'clock.

01:03:40.240 And, you know, it's amazing.

01:03:43.020 This is not a pity party.

01:03:44.540 I'm not – but the amount of stuff that we had to do lifestyle-wise to adapt to this job,

01:03:50.260 the amount of money that we put into security and other stuff, was ridiculous.

01:03:54.920 This is – I thought, okay, I'm serving my country.

01:03:58.180 This is great.

01:03:59.120 And now, you know, I've got people running around saying, okay, you need to remove these bushes because people could hide behind them.

01:04:04.620 You need to put this kind of security – and it's like, are you kidding?

01:04:07.600 This is what I'm doing to serve my country?

01:04:09.620 Right.

01:04:10.180 So, Sean, I don't know if you can vocalize this yet, but the media is – media, history, you know, the elites that are the ones who write history.

01:04:35.720 They're not going to let you back into polite society.

01:04:40.260 No matter what you do, you come on an award show and you mock yourself, it doesn't matter.

01:04:45.880 They're not going to let you in to polite society again, if you will.

01:04:50.940 They're going to punish you, you know, for being the mouth and the face of Donald Trump.

01:05:00.280 How are you – how do you view that?

01:05:02.980 How are you dealing with that?

01:05:05.720 A, I think you're right.

01:05:08.520 B, I don't care.

01:05:10.520 I know what I believe.

01:05:11.920 I know why I believe it.

01:05:12.480 Hang on just a sec.

01:05:13.240 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:05:14.740 I say that a lot, too.

01:05:17.480 So, I understand.

01:05:19.140 I understand the – I understand the real feeling behind that because I say that, too, and I don't.

01:05:28.540 But you do.

01:05:30.360 There is a part of you that really does.

01:05:34.640 You're right.

01:05:35.360 In the sense that this – I don't like when I meet a group of people and people start – they assume very negative things about me or ascribe traits that, in my worst dreams, I would wish were never said.

01:05:48.880 It hurts.

01:05:49.620 There is no question.

01:05:50.420 But at the end of the day, Glenn, I look at this and say, here's the thing.

01:05:54.400 I'm going to live my life if I can say that I've been a good person, that I've treated people well, that I know who I am, and I don't – because I get your point, which is that we care, but we say we don't.

01:06:06.620 And I – but I don't know how – and I'm still new at this, if you will, right?

01:06:12.240 I've – you know, I – all of this happened.

01:06:15.980 I toiled in obscurity as a strategist for 25 years.

01:06:19.640 But I – yes, do I not – I do not appreciate people thinking that I am a bad person, okay?

01:06:26.780 But I don't know how else to deal with it.

01:06:30.380 And you probably could give me some good advice because there are people out there and the elite on the left that control so much that, you know, literally, you know, a woman last night in the hotel who is a fairly high-up executive saw me checking in, walked over and just said,

01:06:45.040 I can't believe you would ever work for a man like that, it doesn't say much about you.

01:06:49.720 And I was like – that, to me, is very hurtful.

01:06:53.660 Like, excuse me, I'm serving my country.

01:06:56.200 This man was elected president of the United States.

01:06:58.760 And for you to walk up and say, because I did that job, I am therefore a bad person, is not something that I want to – that I like hearing.

01:07:07.460 And what does it say about – what does it say about her that with only the information that she has from the media and public, that she felt she had the right to judge you?

01:07:20.320 That's what I don't get.

01:07:21.620 And the funny thing is, clearly, she was coming from the left.

01:07:24.820 And I'm thinking to myself, I don't like a lot of things that some Democrats do, but I don't hold every supporter responsible for every bad act that every elected Democrat does.

01:07:35.120 It's amazing to me.

01:07:37.260 But to get back to the nut of your question, I just don't know how else to operate, which is the way I look at the world right now is when I walk down the street, half of the people probably don't like me.

01:07:47.060 I don't know what – I mean, I'm not – I wrote the book for a reason.

01:07:50.400 Part of it was I was tired of going out and listening to people tell me what I felt because they had read some story in Politico.

01:07:56.560 And I thought, you know what?

01:07:57.740 Screw it.

01:07:58.400 This is at least the thing.

01:07:59.420 If you read the book and you say, I still don't like you, then fine, but I gave you an opportunity to learn a little bit more about who I am, what my values are.

01:08:08.360 And if you say, I still don't like you, okay, I don't like that.

01:08:11.760 I wish I had 100% approval rating.

01:08:13.960 It's not going to happen.

01:08:15.520 I don't know how – and I think it speaks to your point of much larger issues in society, the idea that the left in particular goes out and judges people by saying, okay,

01:08:26.020 because you support these things or because you're a conservative or you stand up for this cause, you are fill-in-the-blank, a racist, sexist, monogamous, whatever it is, it is – and that's okay.

01:08:36.740 It's just unbelievably wrong.

01:08:40.660 Sean Spicer, great to talk to you.

01:08:43.940 Really great to talk to you.

01:08:44.660 Thank you for having me.

01:08:45.280 Thank you.

01:08:45.840 Thank you.

01:08:46.260 And I look forward to coming down and visiting with you.

01:08:48.020 Thank you very much.

01:08:49.080 The name of the book is called The Briefing, Politics, the Press, and the President.

01:08:56.020 Really interesting.

01:08:59.400 I love being surprised.

01:09:04.000 I love it.

01:09:05.780 This is the definition of honest questions.

01:09:10.640 You don't get this from the press.

01:09:13.300 I went in expecting very little, expecting to probably spend 10 minutes with him, and not getting into – not being able to really get into anything with him, and asked him questions, and he changed my mind.

01:09:32.640 That's – that is – that should be what the press does.

01:09:38.000 You can come in with your own thoughts, but ask the questions and allow the person to change your mind about them.

01:09:47.080 I like him.

01:09:47.880 I can't wait to have him come down.

01:09:49.380 And I do remember him now.

01:09:52.120 He was a naval – I don't remember what he was doing, but he was working for the Navy.

01:09:57.220 I think he was in uniform at the time, maybe.

01:10:00.180 This is the fun thing about working with Glenn is he's met everybody but remembers nobody.

01:10:04.960 So every time he thinks he's meeting somebody new, he's already met them like 12 times in really important moments in their lives.

01:10:11.200 So bad.

01:10:12.140 So bad.

01:10:12.680 But I do remember him, and I remember liking him because we did set that up, and it was just all off the record, and he was so genuine and so nice.

01:10:22.340 Yeah, he was always – you know, always well-liked in Washington, and he's been through quite the journey.

01:10:28.260 So that'll be a really interesting conversation.

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01:11:50.720 I love it when I'm shocked.

01:11:52.440 I just love it.

01:11:53.620 Love it when I learn something new.

01:11:56.080 Sean Spicer, the name of the book is The Briefing.

01:11:58.500 Sean was just on with us, and I can't wait to bring him back down here.

01:12:02.320 I just want to sit him in this room for two hours with no commercials, and we're just going to talk.

01:12:09.300 And we'll just, you know, take it and let you listen in and play the best parts on radio.

01:12:17.560 But I think he has a lot to say, and not about politics, but just about the way the system is working.

01:12:26.640 And just how to deal with that as a human being.

01:12:28.540 I mean, it was interesting to me to hear him talk about Access Hollywood's going down.

01:12:34.540 And Donald Trump's throwing a press conference, and he's hearing about it, like, minutes before it's happening.

01:12:39.980 Like, I mean, this must have been, it must have been crazy to go through that time.

01:12:43.200 Just chaos.

01:12:44.400 Chaos.

01:12:45.100 Back in just a second.

01:12:48.760 Glenn Beck.

01:12:50.040 Okay, communism, socialism, Marxism.

01:12:53.880 For anybody who has studied history, those ideologies are clearly toxic.

01:12:59.740 They are bloody and they are fatal.

01:13:03.220 Socialism.

01:13:04.680 Venezuela.

01:13:05.900 How is that not toxic, bloody, and fatal?

01:13:07.980 Now, there are, you know, there's a crop of young romantics who love wearing Che t-shirts to Starbucks, you know, with his, with tattoos of his grizzled murderous face donned with a halo like some Spanish-speaking John Lennon.

01:13:22.680 But he wasn't.

01:13:24.500 He was a ruthless killer.

01:13:26.740 They swoon at the mention of Marxism, which is largely a consequence of the fanciful rhetoric that they've been fed, you know, by the beret-clutching professors who, in reality, teach about the merits of Marxism while enjoying the benefits of capitalism.

01:13:44.440 They have never experienced the depravity of Marxism, socialism.

01:13:49.460 Stephen Hicks, he's written a book everybody should read.

01:13:54.520 It's called Explaining Postmodernism.

01:13:57.260 He wrote,

01:13:58.100 Socialism is the historic loser.

01:14:00.820 And if socialists know that, they would hate that fact.

01:14:04.720 They would hate the winners for having won.

01:14:07.560 And they would hate themselves for having picked the losing side.

01:14:10.500 Hate as a chronic condition leads to the urge to destroy, end quote.

01:14:15.300 Now, part of the postmodernist fight against this reality is rhetoric, essentially lies.

01:14:23.520 And they'll lie to do anything they have to to enforce their system.

01:14:27.960 Now, I want you to hear this.

01:14:30.880 Know that this isn't liberalism.

01:14:33.180 This is not progressivism.

01:14:35.360 This is postmodernism.

01:14:38.160 And it is extremely important that you understand because of what postmodern postmodernist goals are, which is complete destruction of the system that created the West, which is reason and enlightenment and science.

01:14:56.500 Clear thinking.

01:14:58.700 Truth.

01:14:59.300 OK, so this comes from Huffington Post.

01:15:02.600 Now, listen to this.

01:15:03.860 Relax, boomers.

01:15:05.520 Socialism is good now.

01:15:07.520 That's the headline.

01:15:08.680 In this story, they use the strategic lying devices as a way to coax people into believing the the sickening lie, the false idea that socialism is somehow good.

01:15:22.120 It's it's right.

01:15:23.880 And it's not just possible, but it's good.

01:15:27.060 Now, the article is not posted in the opinion section.

01:15:31.200 In other words, they consider it to be actual fact and news.

01:15:35.180 Now, check out this gem, which will likely end up in your writing manuals of your local journalism school as an example of good writing.

01:15:43.760 Quote, the baby boomers are the worst American generation since reconstruction.

01:15:49.780 The baby boomers are the worst American generation since reconstruction, but they had many reasons to turn out this way.

01:16:03.180 The boomers were raised in a political culture dominated by madmen.

01:16:09.320 Their minds were warped at an early age.

01:16:12.660 For decades, boomers saw the term socialism deployed not to denote a set of economic policies, but to conjure to conjure a vague foreign horror.

01:16:24.260 A vague foreign horror?

01:16:27.400 No, it wasn't vague.

01:16:29.280 It was quite clear.

01:16:31.720 Accustomed to this nomenclature, boomers have reacted with fright or at least confusion to the terminology of today's American left, which has embraced now the word socialist and that label more widely than any domestic political movement in living history.

01:16:49.040 But the boomers need to relax because socialism is good now.

01:16:55.060 Now, what follows is a puzzling, nearly unintelligible rant about the merits of socialism.

01:17:04.800 And the good part of me wants to sit down with this author and sit down and have dinner and chat about all of this until we come to some sort of understanding.

01:17:13.020 But then I think, and I don't know if this is a worse part of me, but mostly I just want to buy this person a ticket for a vacation in Venezuela.

01:17:25.180 It's Tuesday, July 31st.

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01:18:58.180 Yesterday, Chris Pratt came out with a letter that all of the Guardians of the Galaxy signed,

01:19:03.480 and it was an open letter, and it was to all the fans and friends of Guardians of the Galaxy.

01:19:10.320 And it was about James Gunn.

01:19:14.140 Stu, in 45 seconds, can you give me the rundown of what happened to James Gunn?

01:19:18.660 Yeah, I mean, after he had participated in a little bit of...

01:19:25.060 Lynch mob.

01:19:25.560 A little bit of a lynch mob on Ben Shapiro, Mark Duplass, two people we really like, by the way.

01:19:31.300 He had...

01:19:32.780 People went back and found out his old tweets.

01:19:35.060 What did he say back in the day?

01:19:36.640 And dug up some, you know, jokes that were intentionally offensive and...

01:19:42.540 Very dark.

01:19:42.840 You know, very dark humor.

01:19:44.700 And someone on, you know, kind of on the alt-right decided to make this sort of his big cause

01:19:49.280 and act as if he believed he was really a pedophile or something because the jokes,

01:19:54.780 some of them were joking about that.

01:19:56.840 And, of course, this is a Disney production, right?

01:20:01.220 And Disney does not want to be involved in pedophilia jokes.

01:20:05.020 So they fired him, and he no longer is going to direct the Guardians of the Galaxy Part 3.

01:20:12.400 So the other part of this is, is that what the alt-right...

01:20:15.920 And it wasn't the right, it was the alt-right that did this.

01:20:19.880 They went and, interestingly enough, left out the fact that he, in 2012, just on self-reflection,

01:20:29.440 went back to all the jokes and all the things that he had written on Twitter and said,

01:20:32.960 you know, I've just re-read all of this stuff that I've done, and I don't want to be that guy.

01:20:37.840 I don't want to be the provocateur.

01:20:39.600 And I apologize to anybody who has been offended by this, and I don't want to be that guy.

01:20:43.560 And he spent the years after 2012 proving it by not being that guy.

01:20:50.220 Right, and you mentioned it there, and it's important to focus on,

01:20:52.320 and that it was not a moment of the mob came after him, and he had to apologize, right?

01:20:57.240 He, on his own, decided, you know what, I want to be a different person,

01:21:00.400 and he decided to implement change and then successfully implemented it for, what, six years?

01:21:05.680 Yeah.

01:21:06.300 So he's fired, and Chris Pratt and the rest of the cast come out with this.

01:21:11.900 To our friends and fans, we fully support James Gunn.

01:21:15.700 We're shocked by his abrupt firing last week and have intentionally waited these 10 days to respond

01:21:20.780 in order to think, pray, listen, and discuss.

01:21:23.860 In that time, we've been encouraged by the outpouring of support from fans and members of the media

01:21:29.560 who wish to see James reinstated as director of Volume 3,

01:21:33.440 as well as discouraged by those so easily duped into believing the many outlandish conspiracy theories surrounding him.

01:21:39.780 Being in the Guardian Galaxy's movies has been a great honor for each of us,

01:21:43.560 and we cannot let this moment pass without expressing our love, support, and gratitude for James.

01:21:49.600 We are not here to defend his jokes of many years ago,

01:21:52.820 but to share our experience of had spent many years together in the making of Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2.

01:21:58.180 The character he has shown in the wake of his firing is consistent with the man that he is on the set every day.

01:22:05.200 And his apology, now and from years ago, when addressing these remarks, we believe is from the heart,

01:22:10.720 a heart we know, trust, and love.

01:22:13.180 In casting each of us to help him tell the story of misfits who find redemption,

01:22:18.640 he changed our lives forever.

01:22:20.280 We believe the theme of redemption has never been more relevant than now.

01:22:24.080 Now, each of us looks forward to working with our friends, James, again.

01:22:27.580 There is little due process in the court of public opinion,

01:22:30.980 and James is likely not the last good person to be put on trial.

01:22:35.880 Given the growing political divide in this country,

01:22:37.880 it is safe to say instances like this will continue,

01:22:41.100 although we hope Americans from across the political spectrum

01:22:44.560 can ease up on the character assassinations and stop weaponizing mob mentality.

01:22:49.640 So, yesterday, I saw this post and immediately saw that Chris Pratt

01:22:57.840 is now being called a protector of pedophilia.

01:23:02.340 Chris Pratt.

01:23:04.700 Now, I don't know Chris Pratt, and I don't know James Gunn,

01:23:08.200 but I have watched Chris Pratt in public just as much as you have.

01:23:13.640 I have praised Chris Pratt just recently for being one of the bravest Christians

01:23:19.100 I have seen with what he did at MTV.

01:23:23.560 That takes real character and commitment.

01:23:28.380 And so, here is Chris Pratt last week defending James Gunn

01:23:33.800 and just using Bible scripture of,

01:23:36.120 let's be slow to anger and judgment, please.

01:23:38.560 Now, he's just saying there's no due process here.

01:23:44.220 You can't just lodge a bunch of stuff and say,

01:23:48.440 oh, he's this, and then get fired for it, and then that's the end of it.

01:23:52.900 And he's right.

01:23:56.580 I have supported not his jokes,

01:24:00.860 but I have supported the end of this mob mentality.

01:24:05.920 I was defending Ben Shapiro,

01:24:08.940 and I was defending, what's his name, who started it?

01:24:13.880 Mark Duplass.

01:24:14.320 Mark Duplass.

01:24:16.260 Here's Mark Duplass, a guy on the left, hard left,

01:24:19.400 who recommended to people on the left,

01:24:23.320 listen to Ben Shapiro.

01:24:24.500 You should listen to him.

01:24:25.980 What did people on the left do?

01:24:27.560 Well, they attacked him, and it was mob mentality.

01:24:30.020 And that got Mark Duplass to back off.

01:24:33.340 Now, that's bad.

01:24:34.680 That's bad.

01:24:35.180 That's bad.

01:24:37.240 And I have exchanged emails with Mark.

01:24:40.240 And he is, while he had a moment of weakness,

01:24:42.940 I don't believe he is going to continue to be weak.

01:24:46.680 It was mobs that surrounded him.

01:24:49.360 He just had never seen it before.

01:24:52.920 So, James.

01:24:55.500 James Gunn now gets, because of an alt-right guy,

01:24:58.880 remember, the alt-right wants chaos.

01:25:01.400 What does he do?

01:25:04.460 Well, he says this, and within 12 hours,

01:25:09.100 this guy goes from a joke writer to a pedophile.

01:25:13.340 And it's midnight on Saturday, and I start to write something.

01:25:16.840 My wife said, what are you doing?

01:25:17.780 I said, I cannot.

01:25:18.880 I can't stand by with this.

01:25:21.940 This is craziness what's happening.

01:25:23.980 She said, please, honey, don't get involved.

01:25:26.320 It's only going to get you in trouble.

01:25:29.040 And that was the final straw.

01:25:32.320 That's when I knew.

01:25:33.100 That's when I looked at her, and I smiled and said, well, now I have to.

01:25:36.900 Not to stand is to stand.

01:25:38.660 Not to speak is to speak.

01:25:41.200 You have to speak up.

01:25:43.300 First, they came for the trade unionists.

01:25:46.640 James Gunn is not a friend of mine.

01:25:48.680 James Gunn, I don't care who makes the next movie.

01:25:54.040 But James Gunn is a human being.

01:25:56.220 Just like Ben Shapiro is a human being.

01:26:00.900 And just like I said to James Gunn when I was defending Ben Shapiro to him,

01:26:06.040 stop it.

01:26:07.840 That's not who Ben is.

01:26:10.960 You don't know him.

01:26:13.760 I say the same thing.

01:26:15.540 We don't know James Gunn.

01:26:17.620 And to throw around pedophile is really pretty harsh.

01:26:23.160 Is there a worse title?

01:26:27.420 Seems to be the first line of attack now.

01:26:30.480 Anyone, whether you're making pizzas or you made a joke or it's just it's like a it's like

01:26:37.080 a greeting online.

01:26:38.420 It's you're a pedophile is now the new hello.

01:26:40.940 Right.

01:26:41.100 And so what happened is for three days after defending him, I'm becoming a pedophile supporter.

01:26:47.940 Excuse me.

01:26:48.960 I've raised more money in this country than probably any other single individual to stop

01:26:55.380 that.

01:26:56.220 We're currently have people all over the world to stop that.

01:27:01.940 Then Chris Pratt, he gets the same treatment.

01:27:05.140 This is the time that I talked about and I said, there's going to be a time and you're

01:27:17.320 going to and it's going to feel good and everybody's going to be running the other direction

01:27:21.560 and you have to stop and say, don't don't do it.

01:27:24.700 Don't go that way.

01:27:25.680 Don't go that way.

01:27:27.360 And it's going to be really hard.

01:27:29.140 And let me show you after I tweeted support for Chris Pratt yesterday, let me show you

01:27:36.320 something that NBC came out with and the way they tried to explain what happened to James

01:27:42.400 Gunn, which just made it so much harder for me to continue to say, no, that's not right.

01:27:52.140 Because wait until you hear how the left and NBC hears this and how they're spinning this.

01:28:04.520 And we have a choice to be made.

01:28:07.040 We can either hit back and engage in destruction and chaos in hopes that what we win and the

01:28:18.240 other side, what happens to them?

01:28:20.180 They're not going to listen.

01:28:20.860 They're not going to change their hearts are going to be harder or we do the tough work

01:28:26.280 right now and we start to stand together on things and say, look, you know what?

01:28:32.320 We disagree on, we could disagree on everything, but this is a basic human principle.

01:28:38.680 We are not a lynch mob and hope that in time that hearts will be changed.

01:28:47.560 I want to show you what happened yesterday and show you exactly how the other side is spinning

01:28:56.620 things and how wrong it is.

01:28:59.520 And, and we must recognize that, but we can use that as an example and say, why, why would

01:29:08.340 you do this?

01:29:09.100 And try to reach to the people, not the diehards that are never going to get it, but reach to

01:29:16.380 the people who are our neighbors or live down the street or, or are very much like you and

01:29:22.480 are tired of this.

01:29:23.980 Those are the people that we should be targeting to understand, not the big elites who have

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01:30:49.000 I want to play this.

01:30:50.940 Believe me.

01:30:52.180 It's going to be hard to listen to.

01:30:53.340 This is the way NBC is spinning.

01:30:57.080 Now, what happened with James Gunn, who was involved in taking down Ben Shapiro.

01:31:04.440 Now, listen.

01:31:06.540 We're at this really interesting place now where tweets can be weaponized against us for very

01:31:11.800 explicitly political purposes.

01:31:13.540 And the pernicious thing about the way the alt-right used Gunn's tweets to get him fired and exact this kind of punitive measure against somebody who, by all accounts, did not exhibit that behavior in the future and had worked to rectify it is really troubling.

01:31:29.960 For the most part, I think you could argue that on the left, it is at least born of a desire to improve the discourse and the acceptability of certain people, certain marginalized groups, and diminishing hate speech.

01:31:46.620 Holy cow.

01:31:46.920 Whereas with Cernovich and people on the alt-right, they take those same principles and act on them in bad faith.

01:31:53.980 Holy cow.

01:31:54.880 Holy cow.

01:31:55.480 There's a lot to say here.

01:31:56.360 Well, first of all, for the most part, the people on the left are only targeting people to diminish their influence because of the hate speech, etc., etc.

01:32:09.360 Well, you would have to throw out all of postmodernist philosophy, and you would have to throw out everything you know about media matters to even come close to that being true.

01:32:21.880 But that's not where it ends.

01:32:24.360 Yes, we'll get to that and also something else from the view that goes along with this point, and then you have a decision to make.

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01:33:38.340 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:33:40.060 We're at this really interesting place now where tweets can be weaponized against us for very explicitly political purposes.

01:33:47.180 Yes.

01:33:47.420 And the pernicious thing about the way the alt-right used Gunn's tweets to get him fired and exact this kind of punitive measure against somebody who, by all accounts, did not exhibit that behavior in the future and had worked to rectify it is really troubling.

01:34:03.420 For the most part, I think you could argue that on the left, it is at least born of a desire to improve the discourse and the acceptability of certain people, certain marginalized groups, and diminishing hate speech.

01:34:20.020 Whereas with Cernovich and people on the alt-right, they take those same principles and act on them in bad faith.

01:34:26.740 Yes.

01:34:28.040 Yes.

01:34:28.720 He has the alt-right down.

01:34:31.260 Not the right, but I don't think there's a difference in his head probably from the alt-right and the right.

01:34:36.180 He has the alt-right down.

01:34:39.140 They are trying to cause chaos.

01:34:40.880 He has the first part down.

01:34:42.200 The reason why it was so bad.

01:34:43.700 Yes.

01:34:45.080 The idea that the left is only doing this for the good.

01:34:50.720 I mean, they're trying to.

01:34:52.320 I mean, sometimes they make a mistake, but really?

01:34:55.240 Explain media matters.

01:34:57.060 It's a whole organization built on millions of dollars of donations specifically designed to attack their political opponents with out-of-context material from their past.

01:35:05.680 That is the entire mission statement of that organization.

01:35:08.020 And they take that as fact, and they spread it, and they cheer.

01:35:12.800 They cheer them from the sidelines.

01:35:14.740 They treat them with actual respect.

01:35:16.680 They take their research seriously.

01:35:18.600 There is no difference between media matters and Cernovich.

01:35:21.400 None.

01:35:21.940 No.

01:35:22.400 Except for one is really well-financed.

01:35:25.220 Yeah.

01:35:25.480 And the other is just a guy.

01:35:26.600 Yeah.

01:35:27.280 I mean, you're right.

01:35:28.180 There's absolutely no.

01:35:29.100 He just learned the lessons.

01:35:30.900 Media matter made the road.

01:35:33.100 They cleared the forest.

01:35:34.380 They made the road.

01:35:35.720 They flattened it out.

01:35:36.760 They paved it.

01:35:38.600 They build houses.

01:35:39.600 They build houses on it.

01:35:40.700 Hotels.

01:35:41.400 There's food stops on the side of the road.

01:35:43.780 They are a park place and boardwalk.

01:35:48.260 And then Mike Cernovich drives down at once on his little tricycle, and everyone gets all upset.

01:35:53.500 Yeah.

01:35:53.720 Oh, how dare he go down on his tricycle?

01:35:56.440 It's like, I got it.

01:35:57.320 I mean, I don't like what he does either.

01:35:58.940 But I mean, let's not be.

01:36:00.080 You guys, this is your creation.

01:36:02.560 Your world.

01:36:03.360 So I just had tweeted my support yesterday for Chris Pratt and James Gunn again and getting hammered for it when this appears in my Twitter feed.

01:36:13.600 And I'm beside myself.

01:36:15.540 And it makes me want to remove my name from support.

01:36:20.540 Okay.

01:36:21.140 And I, that is a logical feeling.

01:36:26.260 Okay.

01:36:26.460 However, I just want to say this.

01:36:29.080 Then it becomes about them and not about you.

01:36:35.360 You cannot change.

01:36:38.220 The world may change.

01:36:40.000 The world may go over a cliff.

01:36:41.820 You must not go over the cliff.

01:36:44.820 You know what's right.

01:36:46.120 You know what's wrong.

01:36:47.720 Do what you know is right, no matter what the rest of the world does.

01:36:52.280 And I will tell you, there is no one that is going to listen.

01:36:55.820 No one's going to have their mind change if we treat them the way they have treated us.

01:37:02.000 There's, they're not going to change their mind.

01:37:04.140 It will validate in their minds that we are those people.

01:37:08.480 The only thing that will change people's minds is if we rally to those who have been wronged in any way, even if we vehemently disagree with them and we can't support what they said.

01:37:21.000 To say this is wrong.

01:37:22.320 Now, people say, oh, Glenn Beck, you were for Roseanne's firing.

01:37:27.840 No, I wasn't.

01:37:28.960 I said to you, I don't like the fact that we're going down this road.

01:37:35.000 Nuance.

01:37:36.100 If I am the CEO of ABC, I probably fire her because nothing can hurt the mouse.

01:37:46.160 Nothing can hurt the shareholder value.

01:37:48.480 So I wouldn't have hired her in the first place.

01:37:51.100 And the same thing with James Gunn.

01:37:53.820 If I'm, if I am Disney and I got a guy who now the internet has labeled a pedophile, sure.

01:38:02.040 Would I like to stand up for his rights?

01:38:04.120 But nothing can hurt the mouse.

01:38:07.340 They're a business.

01:38:08.540 They don't make it right.

01:38:09.380 But if you think last week was the first they'd ever heard of those tweets, you're pretty naive.

01:38:15.220 Of course.

01:38:15.580 They hired the guy, what, 2000, when did, when was the first Guardians of the Galaxy?

01:38:21.800 I don't know.

01:38:22.420 2013, 14?

01:38:24.260 2012 is when he's.

01:38:25.300 He'd already apologized for it in 2012.

01:38:27.600 Publicly in interviews.

01:38:28.600 Yeah.

01:38:29.000 Right.

01:38:29.340 So they knew about it.

01:38:30.280 Right.

01:38:30.660 And they hired him anyway.

01:38:31.780 But it wasn't a big deal at that time.

01:38:33.660 Right.

01:38:34.080 And the difference also between Roseanne, and I am not for, I'm not for the firing of anyone

01:38:40.580 on a Twitter, on a tweet, especially if it's taken out of context.

01:38:46.160 Now, with, with Roseanne, Roseanne has a long history.

01:38:49.520 She called for the execution of bankers, the beheading of bankers.

01:38:53.660 And it was not a joke.

01:38:55.400 That was, she was running for president.

01:38:57.820 Actual policy proposal.

01:38:58.900 So she is out of her mind crazy.

01:39:02.740 Now, I, I certainly didn't, uh, I certainly didn't throw up my arms and say, oh my gosh,

01:39:12.500 what a tragedy.

01:39:13.700 Because, and this is probably wrong of me, because she is somebody who is so wildly dangerous

01:39:20.860 to the right.

01:39:22.240 And she was convincing everybody that that's who the right is.

01:39:26.240 She's not the right.

01:39:27.940 If anything, she's alt-right.

01:39:30.600 Nobody who calls for socialism and the beheading of bankers is, should be considered a conservative

01:39:38.080 or a Donald Trump supporter or anything like us.

01:39:40.900 That's just left.

01:39:41.640 That's just crazy.

01:39:42.060 You're just left-wing.

01:39:42.780 Well, and alt, and if you look at the alt-right's actual philosophy, you find that they support

01:39:46.920 almost all the big government left-wing policies.

01:39:48.620 Oh my gosh.

01:39:49.180 You know, universal healthcare and all of those things.

01:39:51.940 You have to see Dinesh D'Souza's movie.

01:39:54.640 His new movie.

01:39:55.220 Oh yeah.

01:39:55.540 It's coming out.

01:39:56.300 It is absolutely fantastic.

01:39:59.240 There's one part where he goes in and he says, you know, so I wanted to find out what

01:40:03.060 the Walt right was, because everybody is saying that it is, it's conservative, but it's not.

01:40:08.700 They are for all of the things that the right stands against.

01:40:12.460 So he goes to Richard Spencer and he does a sit-down interview with him and he says, so

01:40:17.900 tell me about the bill of rights.

01:40:20.300 And Spencer's like, you don't have any rights.

01:40:22.140 Rights come from the government.

01:40:24.180 What?

01:40:24.660 What?

01:40:25.280 Yeah.

01:40:25.660 Oh yeah.

01:40:26.400 Oh yeah.

01:40:26.800 Wow.

01:40:27.140 You, I mean, tell me about, tell me about socialism.

01:40:30.100 Socialism, I think is good.

01:40:31.460 I mean, he just goes.

01:40:32.280 Oh, that's worse than I thought it was.

01:40:33.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:40:34.520 And it just takes apart the idea that this is the conservative movement.

01:40:40.080 It's not a conservative movement, period.

01:40:42.040 It's not.

01:40:43.340 It's just finding a home there because we were so beaten up and we wanted a bully on our side,

01:40:50.200 I guess.

01:40:51.280 Well, they're, they're not part of us and they shouldn't be part of us.

01:40:53.920 And they, and we have to do everything we can to separate ourselves from them.

01:40:58.160 And by defending people like Cernovich does not help us, it doesn't help us.

01:41:05.220 There was something on the view that was remarkably the same.

01:41:08.680 It's the same, it's the same thing.

01:41:09.780 I mean, I agree with this clip.

01:41:11.540 This is Leslie Jones.

01:41:13.000 Leslie Jones is the, she was the girl on comedian.

01:41:16.360 She was, she was the one on Ghostbusters.

01:41:18.100 She was in Ghostbusters.

01:41:19.180 And if you remember, again, another guy I have no taste for Milo Yiannopoulos, who was

01:41:24.940 on Twitter and got kicked off of Twitter because he had people going after her.

01:41:30.380 Right.

01:41:30.740 So that's kind of, you know, how you might remember her.

01:41:33.560 But this is, this is.

01:41:34.480 And she was very upset about that.

01:41:35.620 Very upset about it.

01:41:36.620 And she quit Twitter, at least for a while.

01:41:38.720 Right.

01:41:39.100 And he wound up getting kicked off of it because of this incident.

01:41:41.780 But so this is her now talking about jokes and, and living your life, not addicted

01:41:48.440 to outrage.

01:41:49.400 Listen.

01:41:50.460 So let comedians do their job because let me explain something to you.

01:41:54.940 You're not letting comedians do their job and you're miserable.

01:41:59.820 You're miserable because laughter is a release.

01:42:03.860 Just like watching acting, just like listening to music, just like looking at art.

01:42:08.800 Laughter is a release that you are now cutting off.

01:42:13.160 Stop walking around so offended.

01:42:15.840 You're not going to be able to survive life if you walk around offended.

01:42:24.760 So now here's the problem with this.

01:42:30.780 She is only seeing the job of a comedian.

01:42:33.780 This is what happens to all of us.

01:42:35.080 We only see it from our side of the, of, of the, the pond.

01:42:40.260 Well, I'm a comedian.

01:42:41.360 You can't shut me down.

01:42:42.660 Well, no, yes, I agree.

01:42:44.560 But that's called freedom of speech.

01:42:46.740 And you shouldn't be so offended when somebody says something about you.

01:42:52.140 You just have to move on.

01:42:54.020 We have to take personal responsibility and have thicker skin.

01:42:58.620 Yeah.

01:42:58.720 That's a problem.

01:42:59.340 First time anybody says anything about her, she's going to be out of her mind.

01:43:02.900 Pissed.

01:43:03.480 Oh, yeah, of course.

01:43:03.940 She was.

01:43:04.680 She was.

01:43:05.180 She was already.

01:43:06.780 The good thing, though, is Loyola Marymount is hosting an event that's going to help all of us.

01:43:13.440 Oh.

01:43:15.040 It's going to help people decipher the alphabet soup of sexual orientation and gender identities.

01:43:20.980 Now, keep in mind, Loyola Marymount is a Catholic university.

01:43:24.580 According to the flyer on the event, on the university's website, the September 14th seminar will closely examine the ever-expanding LGBTQ community because the acronym seems to be getting longer every day.

01:43:40.680 No, you forgot I.

01:43:42.420 Well, there was LGBT.

01:43:44.100 Yeah.

01:43:45.100 LGBTQ.

01:43:46.080 Uh-huh.

01:43:46.700 LGBTQQIA.

01:43:51.040 LGBTQQIA2.

01:43:53.720 Now, there's just Quilt Bags.

01:43:57.900 Quilt Bags?

01:43:58.840 Quilt Bags.

01:43:59.560 Quilt Bags.

01:44:01.200 That's, I guess that's the new term?

01:44:03.860 Quilt Bags.

01:44:04.660 Quilt Bags.

01:44:05.460 Instead of LGBTQIQQIA2, it's Quilt Bags.

01:44:12.520 Quilt Bags.

01:44:13.240 Okay.

01:44:13.740 Quilt Bag means?

01:44:14.500 Now, Quilt Bag is an acronym to replace LGBTQQQIA.

01:44:21.680 Okay.

01:44:21.900 Uh, the Q is for queer and questioning.

01:44:25.180 So, they're kind of cheating there a little bit.

01:44:27.400 Right.

01:44:27.700 Because they're not using a silent Q there.

01:44:29.720 They should use a silent Q.

01:44:31.120 It should be QQ.

01:44:31.960 Because you're demeaning one Q.

01:44:33.500 Thank you.

01:44:34.040 Thank you.

01:44:34.580 The U is for unidentified.

01:44:36.360 The I.

01:44:37.340 Unidentified.

01:44:37.820 Unidentified.

01:44:38.220 Unidentified.

01:44:38.340 As in flying objects.

01:44:39.660 As in flying objects in the bedroom.

01:44:42.680 What is, what, what, what, what?

01:44:43.880 I think.

01:44:44.220 Can you help me at all with unidentified?

01:44:46.480 I, my sexuality is unidentified.

01:44:49.940 I'm just really not sure who you want to sleep with at any given time.

01:44:53.560 Okay.

01:44:54.000 So, this does have something to do with sex.

01:44:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:57.420 Not gender identity.

01:44:58.400 Not just gender identity.

01:44:59.920 No, not just gender identity.

01:45:00.960 But it is both.

01:45:01.660 Okay.

01:45:02.120 All right.

01:45:02.560 Then there's intersex for the I.

01:45:04.640 And intersex means?

01:45:06.380 That you are both sexes.

01:45:09.560 Okay.

01:45:10.080 All right.

01:45:11.040 Okay.

01:45:11.560 The L, lesbian, fairly self-explanatory.

01:45:14.560 T, transgender, transsexual, again.

01:45:17.020 Yeah.

01:45:17.400 The B, bisexual.

01:45:19.060 The A, asexual.

01:45:21.520 And the G, again, cheating a bit, gay and genderqueer.

01:45:26.780 You double up there.

01:45:28.500 Doubled up.

01:45:29.140 And what is genderqueer?

01:45:33.040 I mean, I'm trying to find unidentified still.

01:45:35.760 You're wondering.

01:45:37.080 I'd like to know what genderqueer is.

01:45:40.020 And unidentified.

01:45:42.060 Because I think, and, you know, we occasionally will mock the idea a little bit of, you know,

01:45:50.380 all of these letters being added and how we all have to have our own little group that

01:45:53.920 has only had three people in it.

01:45:54.200 Because it has really grown quite a bit.

01:45:56.160 Well, when you can form a word.

01:45:59.600 Yeah.

01:46:00.020 You know what I mean?

01:46:00.740 Yeah.

01:46:01.220 Exactly.

01:46:01.780 But I think here.

01:46:02.360 In fact, in this case, a compound word.

01:46:05.040 Here, though, I think this is a legitimate improvement.

01:46:09.900 Like, quilt bag is legitimately better than LGBTQI2A or whatever it is.

01:46:15.900 It's a good development because you can say it much easier.

01:46:18.400 Now, it's not an insult, is it?

01:46:19.540 Because it feels like an insult.

01:46:21.400 That's what we were saying.

01:46:22.460 And it sounds like an insult, but it's not according to this seminar.

01:46:25.480 It's actually pronounceable.

01:46:26.840 So here is the conundrum.

01:46:31.160 It was put together, apparently, by a religious group.

01:46:34.760 But it was a religious group at a university.

01:46:38.540 Right.

01:46:38.920 So.

01:46:39.560 So that makes it okay.

01:46:40.400 I think it's okay.

01:46:40.960 The university disqualifies the religious group.

01:46:43.480 I think so.

01:46:44.620 I think it does.

01:46:44.920 I think so.

01:46:45.560 Or cancels it out so it's nothing.

01:46:47.500 Right.

01:46:49.320 Genderqueer.

01:46:50.720 Okay.

01:46:51.180 Is most commonly used to describe a person who feels that his or her gender identity

01:46:55.860 does not fit into the socially constructed norms associated with his or her biological sex.

01:47:02.120 Wait, isn't that everything else in quilt bag?

01:47:04.760 I feel like you, right?

01:47:06.640 Like, if you're unidentified, you haven't identified what your thing is.

01:47:09.460 Look up unidentified.

01:47:10.860 I can't find it.

01:47:12.140 What do you mean you can't find it?

01:47:13.140 It's the you in quilt bag.

01:47:14.360 I know.

01:47:15.280 I'll have to get back to you on this.

01:47:17.320 I think we're.

01:47:18.040 Okay.

01:47:18.620 Well.

01:47:19.340 You said that as if it was so obvious.

01:47:21.820 It's the you.

01:47:22.400 Right.

01:47:22.720 It's the you in quilt bag.

01:47:23.940 Come on.

01:47:24.340 Look how it rolls off your tongue.

01:47:25.540 Yeah.

01:47:25.960 It does.

01:47:26.440 Right.

01:47:26.620 I mean, it's like it's so much better than L-G-B-T-Q-I-2-A.

01:47:30.440 Well, you did think, though, the two is not in quilt bag.

01:47:32.400 So we have to make it quilt bag to electric boogaloo.

01:47:34.460 And then you can add a lot of other letters.

01:47:36.060 I think that's a movie.

01:47:37.260 I'm not.

01:47:38.160 I'm not sure.

01:47:40.480 Thank you, Pat.

01:47:41.180 Pat Gray and his orchestra and the singing cowboys.

01:47:44.680 It's Tuesday.

01:47:45.820 Back with Pat Gray coming up at the top of next hour on the Blaze Radio Network immediately

01:47:51.460 following this program.

01:47:52.700 By the way, I'm seeing undecided as well as an alternative to unidentified.

01:47:56.820 So two yous?

01:47:57.260 There could be two yous there.

01:47:58.080 There's lots of silent letters in there.

01:47:59.960 Okay.

01:48:00.700 Once again, sensitive personal data has been exposed in a data breach.

01:48:06.440 For nearly two months, an unauthorized party reportedly stole usernames, passwords to log

01:48:11.660 in into online accounts.

01:48:17.300 But it's really, I mean, it's not a problem.

01:48:19.240 It was only just major department store websites.

01:48:21.400 So, I mean, who uses those?

01:48:22.740 Customer data such as full names, addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, birthday, payment,

01:48:28.140 card numbers, expiration dates, all of it compromised.

01:48:32.340 Did you even know about this?

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01:49:37.400 So, you know, some people who say socialism always ends up, you know, going too far.

01:49:42.260 You know, death camps, you know, riots, starvation, etc.

01:49:45.480 Now, Bloomberg says that some of these experiments haven't just gone far enough.

01:49:51.820 I think that's what always happens, Glenn.

01:49:53.260 Socialism would work if just people would just implement it correctly.

01:49:57.160 Amen, brother.

01:49:58.320 The system, but they never go far enough, and that's why Finland's basic income test wasn't

01:50:03.420 ambitious enough, is the headline.

01:50:05.060 Okay.

01:50:05.600 We'll get into that tomorrow, but I mean, the bottom line is, it was encouraging people

01:50:09.120 to work.

01:50:10.860 Oh, well, you can't give them free money and encourage them to work.

01:50:13.840 No, the whole place is they can stay home.

01:50:16.140 Oh, my gosh.

01:50:16.920 Jeez.

01:50:17.420 That's so easy.

01:50:18.200 Thank goodness Bloomberg is here to help us out.

01:50:21.260 That's tomorrow on the broadcast.

01:50:23.260 Glenn Beck.

01:50:24.440 Mercury.

01:50:25.460 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 31, 2018

Uniquely Presidential？ - 7⧸31⧸18

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