The Glenn Beck Program - 'Uptight and Humorless'？ - 7⧸25⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.040 40 years ago, radical leftists wrote, it should be remembered that you can threaten the enemy

00:00:12.980 and you'll get away with it.

00:00:14.220 You can insult and annoy him.

00:00:16.140 But the one thing that is unforgivable and that is certain to get to him is to react

00:00:22.960 and laugh at him.

00:00:25.600 This causes irrational anger.

00:00:28.000 Oh, now this tactic has been used for years and when we complain about it, you know, maybe

00:00:36.760 they've gone too far, you know, like taking pictures of, let's say, somebody standing there

00:00:46.000 with a severed head of the president, you know, maybe they say we're uptight and humorless.

00:00:52.880 Yet, as we have seen, they cannot handle absolute any, any sarcasm, any comedy.

00:01:03.120 They can handle zero of the same back into their face.

00:01:08.060 They seem utterly incapable of laughing at themselves.

00:01:12.740 Sacha Baron Cohen can rib conservatives constantly and the leftists rejoice.

00:01:17.940 But they are completely blind and silent about Cohen's wacky NPR character, who perfectly encapsulates

00:01:27.160 the hysteria of Trump derangement syndrome and whose own Twitter bio reads, proud Democrat,

00:01:33.940 lecturer on gender studies at Reed College, co-principal at Wildfields Poly Ed, stay at home,

00:01:41.380 male mom.

00:01:42.120 How come you haven't heard anything about that?

00:01:45.600 Because they don't find that funny.

00:01:48.640 The character's intro is, I'm Dr. Neera Kane Diangliaso or whatever.

00:01:56.900 I'm a cisgender, white, heterosexual male for which I apologize.

00:02:02.820 You don't hear anybody talking about that, do you?

00:02:04.900 Another great example is CRTV's satirical video of socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:02:14.820 Now, this is Allie Beth Stuckley.

00:02:16.380 Now, Allie used to work here at The Blaze, and she was trying to find her own kind of niche,

00:02:23.300 her own thing for a long time.

00:02:25.920 And when she started here, she started making satirical videos.

00:02:29.520 Not all of them were satirical.

00:02:31.100 Still, not all of them are satirical.

00:02:32.940 But she just made one that went to a million views, I mean, within a day. 0.93

00:02:41.640 Oh, my gosh.

00:02:43.300 Well, the left is very upset.

00:02:45.560 The video shows Allie using selectively edited comments from the Ocasio-Cortez disastrous PBS interview, 0.95

00:02:54.280 where she made anti-Semitic remarks and framing them in such a matter where she appears to be answering questions from Stucky.

00:03:02.320 This is the oldest trick in the book, and especially when it's a very well-known interview.

00:03:11.500 This interview has been everywhere.

00:03:14.240 Everybody knows it because she was a moron. 0.99

00:03:18.360 Well, I think the occupation is, well, I'm not sure.

00:03:24.680 I'm not an expert.

00:03:26.540 So the segment interspliced questions from Stucky cleverly interspliced into selectively edited clips from Cortez's recent interview with PBS.

00:03:34.320 We've all seen this done a bazillion times.

00:03:37.660 And the left's immediate response, if you can believe it, was outrage.

00:03:45.960 Outrage.

00:03:47.440 Shapiro said, intensely stupid.

00:03:50.780 This is what Allie does. 1.00

00:03:52.720 I've starred in them with her.

00:03:56.100 You're exactly right.

00:03:57.840 You're exactly right.

00:03:59.040 Here's a short clip of what she did.

00:04:01.080 Do you have any experience that qualifies you for this job?

00:04:05.620 I was growing up during the Clinton era.

00:04:08.900 And then basically when I was in middle school, 9-11 happened.

00:04:15.620 Do you have any knowledge whatsoever about how our political system works?

00:04:24.880 Yikes.

00:04:25.940 Does that make you a little bit nervous?

00:04:28.420 Yes.

00:04:31.080 Put socialism into your own words.

00:04:35.320 Unprecedented concentration of wealth at the very top, tippy top of the 1%.

00:04:41.260 Wow.

00:04:42.280 I'm kind of surprised to hear you admit that.

00:04:45.120 It sounds like what's going on in socialist Venezuela.

00:04:49.060 Mm-hmm.

00:04:50.580 What do you think about what's going on in Venezuela?

00:04:53.820 Just an increasing crisis of humanitarian condition.

00:04:57.000 And to me, it would just be completely unacceptable if that happened on our shores.

00:05:01.280 Okay.

00:05:03.360 And now this is exactly what Jon Stewart and everyone has done for a million years.

00:05:11.660 Well, Cortez, who I can actually excuse because she's just using this to make money. 1.00

00:05:16.780 Okay.

00:05:17.000 She's just raising money on this. 0.99

00:05:18.660 So she responded, Republicans are so scared of me that they're faking videos and presenting them as real on Facebook because they can't deal with the reality anymore.

00:05:28.200 Okay.

00:05:28.760 All right.

00:05:29.100 So she doesn't get the joke or, you know, maybe she does get it, but she's just trying to raise money.

00:05:35.740 Let me go back to one major point.

00:05:39.640 Why is it somehow fine for leftists to constantly make conservatives the butt of the joke and then instantly cry foul the moment the humor is reversed?

00:05:48.780 Obviously, it's important for people to listen to criticism and have their beliefs challenged occasionally.

00:05:53.900 But is it healthy for people to feel as though their worldview is inherently off limits while the other side is made to feel like their point of view is somehow or another evil?

00:06:06.740 One side feels constantly under attack.

00:06:10.580 They just stop listening.

00:06:12.700 They stop engaging with the other side.

00:06:14.840 And as a result, the divisions between left and right become more unshakable.

00:06:18.900 This is a really dangerous situation because ultimately we need one another.

00:06:24.760 Democracy cannot work without balance of liberalism and conservatism.

00:06:31.360 And if two sides are unable to sit down together and have a laugh, let alone compromise and empathize and commit themselves to improvement,

00:06:41.920 then we've got bigger problems than bias in comedy.

00:06:46.480 And there's nothing funny about that.

00:06:48.900 Well, maybe there is, but only if it's done really, really well.

00:06:57.520 It's Wednesday, July 25th.

00:07:00.080 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:07:01.920 So, Stu, I would like to announce, and I know I'm early, but the death of the left.

00:07:09.340 I think they are overplaying their hands.

00:07:13.280 They are knocking themselves out in ways they don't even understand.

00:07:18.900 If you're going to declare the death of a political movement, Glenn, you're going to need to give us some supporting evidence.

00:07:23.520 Because, I mean, I don't know, freaking out over an interview where you edit together clips to make it into something funny is only something that's been going on for at least as long as I've been alive.

00:07:36.680 I remember Weird Al Yankovic doing it on Al TV every time he released an album.

00:07:41.640 Well, but Allie's not known for doing that. 1.00

00:07:43.340 Well, unless you've been watching her.

00:07:45.440 Yeah.

00:07:45.620 First of all, unless you've been watching her.

00:07:47.220 Oh, gosh.

00:07:48.060 This one's setting me off.

00:07:49.840 Okay.

00:07:50.660 Allie was on the show, on our network.

00:07:52.420 Yeah.

00:07:52.600 She did videos, not exactly like this, but very similar to this, in which she'd, like, mock characters.

00:07:57.220 This is something that she does all the time. 1.00

00:07:58.880 The Washington Post releases a story about this supposed controversy.

00:08:07.320 And first of all.

00:08:08.200 Hold on just a second.

00:08:08.940 Could I have the jingle, please?

00:08:10.640 I think this deserves, this story deserves Addicted to Outrage.

00:08:15.340 Addicted to Outrage.

00:08:17.800 Yes.

00:08:18.460 Go ahead.

00:08:18.940 So here's the Washington Post.

00:08:19.900 Great example of it.

00:08:20.940 Yes.

00:08:21.340 Because none of these people are actually outraged by this.

00:08:24.460 None of them.

00:08:25.100 They're just doing it for clicks and fun.

00:08:28.120 This is what they, they, they describe the interview.

00:08:30.040 They say, they say, but the video did not depict a real interview.

00:08:33.600 Despite its caption, Allie grills congressional hopeful of progressive it girl, or, and progressive

00:08:39.580 it girl, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:08:42.180 I'm glad, first of all, that the Washington Post has told us now for sure that progressivism

00:08:47.360 is synonymous with a socialist.

00:08:50.620 Thank you.

00:08:51.020 I'm certainly fine with that.

00:08:52.380 Thank you for that.

00:08:53.240 But this is, this is Allie's caption.

00:08:55.100 And a knowledge of government or lack thereof.

00:08:58.860 Instead used heavily edited footage from an interview of Ocasio-Cortez.

00:09:02.860 Now, first of all, the Ocasio-Cortez interview on PBS has been a giant news story for a week.

00:09:10.440 Yes.

00:09:10.840 Everybody knew the footage.

00:09:12.160 Everybody had seen the footage.

00:09:13.940 Secondly, the backgrounds don't match.

00:09:16.480 Where Allie's sitting, she has a white background, but it's a different background for where Ocasio-Cortez 0.69

00:09:21.600 is sitting.

00:09:22.000 Anybody who is looking at it would know immediately.

00:09:25.220 Thirdly, you don't, you don't label satire, satire.

00:09:30.720 It's, if you can help it, you try not to.

00:09:34.060 No.

00:09:34.160 And the reason for that is because you give away the joke.

00:09:38.520 Did you, did you, hang on just a second.

00:09:40.880 Did you read the Washington Post?

00:09:41.940 I am.

00:09:42.800 I, that's where I'm getting this from.

00:09:44.220 They have to label it.

00:09:45.620 And you know that every satire you have ever seen is always labeled.

00:09:52.040 Everything.

00:09:52.960 The Colbert Report.

00:09:54.380 What does it say before that show even started?

00:09:57.500 Warning, satire approaching.

00:09:59.340 Yes.

00:09:59.700 That's true.

00:10:00.160 I remember that.

00:10:00.680 I mean, they always label satire.

00:10:03.440 You don't do that unless you have to.

00:10:05.180 Beyond that, she actually did label it satire.

00:10:08.880 Now, they're talking about when she updated the caption.

00:10:12.160 They updated the caption to say, this is satire.

00:10:13.900 They actually, you know, did it.

00:10:15.660 But she put a winking emoji in the middle of her headline.

00:10:19.580 Now, if you are conducting a serious interview with an up and coming congressional candidate,

00:10:25.220 do you put a winking emoji in your, in the description of your interview?

00:10:29.180 No.

00:10:29.820 It was blatantly obvious what, what it was.

00:10:32.720 Listen to this though.

00:10:33.820 After an outcry, the Facebook page for Stucky's show where the social media giant has given

00:10:37.960 informal, uh, what is it?

00:10:40.220 When I can never say that word, uh, given under the blue check mark, right?

00:10:44.680 Was updated to note that the video was satire and include a reference to the original PBS

00:10:48.680 show, but the fact that the video traveled so widely and for some apparently believably

00:10:53.900 again, like they're not saying they believed it.

00:10:56.680 They're saying for some apparently believably, what is their evidence for this?

00:11:02.200 Who knows?

00:11:03.120 They go on to give you a couple of random people from Facebook to say, look, one person

00:11:07.500 said they believed it.

00:11:08.600 It's like, it's Facebook.

00:11:10.720 One person says everything.

00:11:12.840 One person is talking in gibberish right now.

00:11:15.280 One person is, has an entire page dedicated to pig Latin.

00:11:19.560 Like I, one person believes everything, but like the, the fact that that video traveled

00:11:23.980 so widely, again, it has over a million, had over a million views.

00:11:27.320 The view, the video did very well, right?

00:11:29.760 Looking at some of the previous videos from Allie, here's the one at the top of her page,

00:11:34.400 which is a video entitled, uh, here it is.

00:11:39.180 Human dignity starts in the womb.

00:11:41.020 Okay.

00:11:41.580 That video has 3.15 million views, more than double the amount, uh, that the Washington

00:11:48.040 post is talking about.

00:11:49.040 When you go down to the previous video before that, it's Allie.

00:11:53.600 Uh, let's see.

00:11:55.040 Which one was this?

00:11:55.980 Allie sitting in her car with no production value.

00:11:59.300 She's sitting in her car and the, the headline is Christlike confidence is greater than self

00:12:04.900 love.

00:12:06.060 And she is, uh, it's a three minute video of her sitting in her car that has 762,000

00:12:10.680 views.

00:12:11.260 This is very much in the mainstream of where an Allie Stucky video would perform, right?

00:12:18.520 Well, she does well on the internet. 0.95

00:12:20.420 And it's like, they sit here and they hammer her as if she has never done anything like

00:12:25.660 this before.

00:12:26.140 That's one of their arguments because people will say, well, what about Jon Stewart?

00:12:29.820 He's done this stuff.

00:12:30.800 You know, Saturday Night Live's done this stuff.

00:12:32.300 Every weird Allie Yankovic's done all these things. 0.83

00:12:35.200 Well, Allie's not known for that. 0.99

00:12:37.200 Well, first of all, she's what?

00:12:38.640 25 years old.

00:12:40.080 Yeah.

00:12:40.220 She's a new media personality. 1.00

00:12:41.800 And if you have been around her or following her, she used to work here.

00:12:45.880 She is known for that. 0.97

00:12:46.380 She is known for this. 0.78

00:12:47.940 Yes.

00:12:48.200 She's just not well known because she's at the beginning of her career. 0.97

00:12:51.720 Right.

00:12:51.940 Like the fact that you don't know what she does doesn't mean that her millions of fans

00:12:55.860 don't know that.

00:12:56.920 They do know it.

00:12:58.100 That's why they're there.

00:12:59.220 You're just jumping into this because you're trying to make up an outrage story that you

00:13:03.980 don't actually have any foundation to.

00:13:06.100 And the fact that they would all play along because you're right.

00:13:08.500 Ocasio-Cortez, you know, she's going to tweet about it because she wants to raise

00:13:11.560 money and look like the victim so she can, you know, of course. 1.00

00:13:15.480 But the fact that so many media members jump onto this and act as if they also can't tell

00:13:22.420 whether this is real or not is the big problem.

00:13:24.820 Hold on just a second.

00:13:25.520 I just I have some breaking news here.

00:13:27.840 OK.

00:13:28.340 On something that we have just discovered that Donald Trump has said.

00:13:35.560 And it is stunning, Stu.

00:13:39.320 We're going to get into this next.

00:13:41.300 Oh, what is it?

00:13:42.740 Well, I don't know.

00:13:43.860 Well, you should be addicted to outrage.

00:13:47.940 And you might even be outraged by it.

00:13:50.040 We'll get into that next.

00:13:51.480 It's it has nothing to do with Ali's video.

00:13:56.000 This is the real deal.

00:13:57.860 OK.

00:13:58.840 And you're going to be shocked.

00:14:01.340 I can't wait to hear it.

00:14:02.740 This is going to be important.

00:14:03.900 I'm sure.

00:14:04.220 All right.

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00:15:22.320 Glenn Beck addicted to outrage.

00:15:52.300 Holy cow. 0.89

00:15:53.360 I am.

00:15:54.460 I'm very I'm very concerned.

00:15:57.740 I'm really upset.

00:15:59.120 I don't know if this is real or not.

00:16:01.680 I just found this another Cohen tape.

00:16:03.560 I just no, no, no.

00:16:04.900 I just tweeted this.

00:16:06.120 I just tweeted this.

00:16:07.020 I don't know if the source is is Ali Stuckey or this seems highly edited, but I'm not sure.

00:16:13.900 It doesn't seem like something the president would do.

00:16:16.920 And it's not marked parody.

00:16:19.360 Oh, my gosh.

00:16:20.040 Yeah.

00:16:20.440 So could you just play this, please?

00:16:22.420 Uh, sir.

00:16:25.800 She was more like a beauty queen from a movie scene. 1.00

00:16:30.020 I said, what do you mean?

00:16:32.580 I am the one.

00:16:33.820 The president of the United States should be taking the time for the full production of this song.

00:16:38.160 Yeah, the backgrounds, his tie, his positions, the microphone, and everything changes almost every word.

00:16:47.360 But I'm not sure if this is downright scary as hell.

00:16:50.980 Everyone, please watch this video.

00:16:52.500 It's revealing.

00:16:54.320 How did this person get elected to be president of the United States?

00:16:57.800 The new face of the Republicans.

00:17:00.600 By the way, those are all the, that's the evidence that people believe the Ali Stuckey video is the three comments I just read to you.

00:17:07.700 One person said, downright scary as hell.

00:17:12.420 Another said, everyone, please watch this video.

00:17:16.540 It's revealing.

00:17:17.260 Now, do they have any evidence that those comments are real?

00:17:21.320 Did they go through and find out for sure if the person really felt it was downright scary as hell?

00:17:26.660 Or were they joking about the comment?

00:17:28.200 Because that's how I would comment.

00:17:29.780 Well, is it marked parody?

00:17:31.360 Is there comment marked parody?

00:17:34.520 Yes, that's what I think we need to know.

00:17:36.720 If it wasn't marked parody, we don't know if it was parody.

00:17:40.020 But we can assume it wasn't.

00:17:42.000 And we must immediately go for the worst possible outcome.

00:17:46.420 If it involves a Democrat.

00:17:47.940 Did you hear this interview with Bruce Springsteen?

00:17:50.400 No.

00:17:50.920 Yeah, this is, I mean, this is a bizarre interview.

00:17:53.120 And it's downright scary as hell, Glenn.

00:17:55.140 Listen to this.

00:17:56.020 Okay, well, let's get on with the questions.

00:17:58.640 I hear you have a problem with your pants falling down on stage.

00:18:02.260 What's wrong with them?

00:18:03.540 They're pretty, they're pretty loose.

00:18:05.700 Say, a couple minutes ago, I saw you using a nutcracker to open a bottle of beer.

00:18:11.240 How come?

00:18:12.720 I don't know.

00:18:13.420 You know, it just seemed like a good opener.

00:18:16.580 Yeah.

00:18:17.600 Okay, name as many numbers as you can between 7 and 12.

00:18:21.560 8, 9, 10, you know, 11.

00:18:25.300 Bruce, say something incomprehensible.

00:18:28.640 Yeah, it's something like, it's my, you know, I always, I always, I probably took the whole thing.

00:18:37.940 Okay, okay, that's enough.

00:18:39.640 Okay, so there you go.

00:18:40.460 Wow, wow.

00:18:41.180 Wow, Bruce Springsteen.

00:18:42.980 Is he on drugs?

00:18:44.100 It seems old.

00:18:45.540 It does seem old.

00:18:46.440 It almost seems like it's from Al TV.

00:18:49.120 Al TV.

00:18:50.080 Which is when Weird Al Yankovic took over MTV every week.

00:18:53.260 Who is this Weird Al Yankovic you speak of?

00:18:54.840 It's a serious interviewer that never does parody, Glenn.

00:18:57.760 Wow, I didn't know that.

00:18:59.300 It's very, it's very controversial.

00:19:01.380 Okay, so this is something brand new.

00:19:03.120 Brand new, I'm sure.

00:19:04.500 Right.

00:19:04.600 And it seems like Bruce Springsteen, while looking much younger, must be on some sort of

00:19:09.060 drugs.

00:19:10.180 He's obviously incoherent.

00:19:12.240 Scary.

00:19:12.580 We could say that we don't know for sure, but just based on this video, Bruce Springsteen

00:19:17.440 may be close to an overdose.

00:19:19.080 I'll say this, it's downright scary as hell, said me.

00:19:22.880 Said who?

00:19:24.300 Said me?

00:19:25.300 Said me.

00:19:26.080 Okay.

00:19:27.280 Everyone, watch this video.

00:19:28.860 It's revealing.

00:19:29.760 It is revealing.

00:19:30.580 How does this person get to sell albums and go on stage?

00:19:33.500 I have no idea.

00:19:35.260 At least he knows how to count.

00:19:37.940 At least we can, we know he can count.

00:19:41.400 But it's very disturbing.

00:19:43.560 I mean, again, it's this addicted to outrage moment, where they're faking that they are upset

00:19:49.080 about this.

00:19:49.640 It's not real.

00:19:50.400 They are not upset about it.

00:19:51.980 They knew it was parody from the beginning.

00:19:53.580 It's not a real story.

00:19:54.920 But they're doing it anyway.

00:19:56.500 And that is a massive problem.

00:19:58.680 Okay.

00:19:59.040 A lot to discuss today, including the tapes from Cohn and Trump.

00:20:04.760 Coming up.

00:20:05.360 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:12.320 Addicted to outrage.

00:20:14.660 Bill, since everything that's happened, I've kind of been laying low.

00:20:17.980 Oh.

00:20:18.320 If you want to lay low, television is the best place to do that.

00:20:21.520 Now, I want to give you a chance to clear up some things.

00:20:24.180 You gave an interview with Billy Bush, where you claimed that while you were at a gas station

00:20:28.500 in Rio, a gun was put to your forehead and cocked, and you were robbed.

00:20:33.340 Now you're saying that didn't happen?

00:20:35.100 That didn't happen.

00:20:36.040 And that's why I over-exaggerated that part.

00:20:39.240 That part.

00:20:40.720 Okay.

00:20:41.440 Here's the thing.

00:20:42.540 Uh, that part is really the whole part.

00:20:46.080 Without a gun cocked at your forehead, it's really just a story about some guys urinating

00:20:50.300 on a gas station.

00:20:51.640 How could you get that so wrong?

00:20:53.500 I was intoxicated.

00:20:54.560 Okay.

00:20:55.260 But on Sunday, when you told that story to Billy Bush, it was hours after the incident.

00:21:01.200 I was still intoxicated.

00:21:02.660 Okay.

00:21:03.780 But then on Wednesday, you told Matt Lauer again that you were robbed.

00:21:08.520 That was another three days later.

00:21:10.500 I was very intoxicated.

00:21:12.480 This seems highly edited.

00:21:14.340 I don't know if Allie Stuckey had anything to do with this, but this seems highly edited

00:21:18.640 here.

00:21:19.800 It was not Mark Satire.

00:21:20.980 It's not Mark Satire.

00:21:22.320 I don't even know if it's satire.

00:21:23.300 So I choose to believe it and say, it's downright scary as hell.

00:21:26.940 Right.

00:21:27.380 Well, people should listen to this because I think it's quite revealing.

00:21:30.120 It is.

00:21:30.800 So anyway, we have Austin Peterson.

00:21:34.180 He's a U.S. Senate candidate in Missouri, and his Senate race is happening, what, August?

00:21:41.560 Are you there, Austin?

00:21:43.200 Yeah.

00:21:43.660 Good morning, guys.

00:21:44.620 August 7th.

00:21:45.700 August 7th.

00:21:46.480 Okay.

00:21:46.760 And you're, I guess, fundraising with a raffle for a 3D printer that will print a gun.

00:22:01.920 Yeah, it's called a Ghost Gunner 2.

00:22:04.980 It's a milling machine.

00:22:06.200 It allows you to make an un-serialized firearm.

00:22:09.900 Every American has the right to manufacture at least one firearm that doesn't contain a

00:22:15.500 serial number.

00:22:16.040 So last week, there was a court decision that made it so that it was legal for us to use

00:22:21.920 our, not only our Second Amendment rights, but our First Amendment rights to distribute

00:22:26.120 machines like this.

00:22:27.640 And it's a way for me to explain to people and show people that I am the strongest Second

00:22:32.980 Amendment candidate in the whole country.

00:22:35.420 And it definitely got liberals, got the hair up on the back of their necks.

00:22:39.200 They're coming for me.

00:22:40.520 I have a feeling that no one could outdo the guy who is saying you can make a gun without

00:22:49.800 a serial number.

00:22:51.560 It'd be hard to find somebody.

00:22:53.820 Well, it's really important because the guy that I'm running against, the Republican, who's

00:22:58.420 sort of like the Mitch McConnell pick in this race, you know, the first thing that he did

00:23:02.460 when he announced he was running was come out in favor of gun control.

00:23:05.560 Actually, he's technically to the left of the Obama administration when it comes to firearms

00:23:10.640 controls because he wants to use executive orders to ban firearms accessories, which

00:23:15.160 even Obama said he didn't have the authority to do.

00:23:18.160 And, you know, we have some some polls that show that if enough Republicans in Missouri know

00:23:22.740 that Josh Hawley is weak on the Second Amendment, that we beat him.

00:23:25.740 So I'm trying to get the message out.

00:23:27.500 And what better way to do it than let people make their own ghost guns?

00:23:30.140 So, well, so, Austin, I'm concerned, though.

00:23:35.220 I saw a recent press conference with one, the Honorable Charles Schumer, and he was very

00:23:42.760 clear that this any idea of a 3D printed gun was very dangerous to our society.

00:23:48.460 And you are standing here saying the opposite.

00:23:50.740 I don't understand.

00:23:52.800 Yeah.

00:23:53.320 Well, Chuck Schumer is no friend of the Second Amendment.

00:23:56.680 You know, he's a big fan of the type of Dianne Feinstein gun bills that came out in 2013,

00:24:01.740 which coincidentally, the Democrat I'm running against, Claire McCaskill, is a big supporter

00:24:06.360 of.

00:24:07.080 But we usually don't expect to see Republicans in red states like this one coming out in

00:24:11.560 favor of gun control, too. 0.96

00:24:13.440 It almost seems like the Democrats want to take all of our guns and some Republicans want

00:24:17.620 to take our guns just a little bit.

00:24:20.180 I'm trying to stop playing defense on the Second Amendment.

00:24:23.340 I want to go on the offense.

00:24:24.360 I think we need to stop fighting over how many of our rights we're going to take away

00:24:27.700 and turn the conversation towards how we can expand our Second Amendment rights.

00:24:32.260 That's what I'm fighting for.

00:24:33.380 And those are the principles I'll carry with me into the Senate next year.

00:24:36.320 So the the raffle ticket, how can you can you buy it over state lines?

00:24:41.280 And well, it's free.

00:24:42.920 So it's basically just a giveaway.

00:24:44.620 It's we couldn't do a raffle because the campaign finance law. 0.56

00:24:47.460 So all you have to do is go to Austin Peterson dot com slash ghost underscore gunner and

00:24:52.700 you can register for free and hopefully you'll be able to win your own ghost gun machine.

00:24:56.720 Right.

00:24:56.820 OK.

00:24:57.320 And and I suppose you could make a donation there as well.

00:25:01.220 You absolutely could.

00:25:02.900 And we've built a grassroots army.

00:25:05.740 We're not funded by the establishment in D.C.

00:25:08.740 Thousands of regular people.

00:25:10.260 Your listeners have joined us 40 bucks at a time.

00:25:12.520 We've raised almost 600 grand.

00:25:14.060 And, you know, what's interesting, Glenn, is that despite all the money in the endorsements

00:25:18.560 that my Republican primary opponent has had, I'm the only Republican who's running against

00:25:23.720 Claire McCaskill in the double digits.

00:25:25.860 You know, Trump won this state by 19 points and I'm the only Republican who beats her by

00:25:30.980 16 points if the election were held today.

00:25:33.240 The guy that everybody's trying to pop up in this race right now is either within the margin

00:25:37.620 of error or he's losing to her, which is probably why they're so desperate.

00:25:41.980 And they're kind of they're doing a whole Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton thing here.

00:25:45.900 Remember when they changed the rules to favor Hillary? 1.00

00:25:48.420 Well, the Republican Party is doing that here for me.

00:25:50.960 I feel sometimes like the Republicans would rather lose with someone that they can control

00:25:55.580 than win with someone like myself who they cannot control.

00:25:59.780 Oh, I believe that.

00:26:00.720 Absolutely.

00:26:01.200 So, so, so, Austin, the because if people don't know you, you're obviously a a deep libertarian,

00:26:09.040 but you're you're not one of these crazy libertarians that is somehow or another is also for universal

00:26:18.900 health care and everything.

00:26:20.120 No, no, I'm not a what is Aleppo bake the cake libertarian.

00:26:25.220 And I'm pro-life, pro-liberty, pro-constitutional, constitutional conservative.

00:26:29.960 I mean, one of the main reasons why I'm running Glenn is because I want to give some backup

00:26:34.060 to people like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and Mike Lee.

00:26:37.240 Those are the people that I want to join in the U.S. Senate next year.

00:26:40.420 That's why I'm doing this to not only represent the people of Missouri, but to represent the

00:26:44.360 cause of liberty.

00:26:45.540 And, you know, when you've got the Republican establishment doing everything they can to

00:26:49.080 stop you and the Democratic establishment doing the same, you know, you're probably on the

00:26:53.260 right side of history.

00:26:55.220 In two weeks, can we get enough votes on August 7th to beat the Mitch McConnell pick in this

00:26:59.700 race, which is why I am legally obligated to ask you, Glenn Beck, for your endorsement?

00:27:04.780 Would you like to give me that?

00:27:06.340 You know, I tell you, Austin, no, I've I've I've I've learned an important lesson.

00:27:14.280 I know you got kicked around in 2016, Glenn, but I have to ask.

00:27:21.260 Yeah, don't ask.

00:27:22.180 Don't get.

00:27:22.720 Yeah, no, no, no.

00:27:23.400 I appreciate it.

00:27:24.360 But I think what Stu was just going to say is you should ask for me to hate you.

00:27:28.140 Yeah.

00:27:28.340 Endorse the other guy.

00:27:29.260 Then you'd have a great chance.

00:27:30.660 Yeah.

00:27:31.220 Hey, speaking of endorsements, Austin, I saw Donald Trump yesterday appear with your opponent

00:27:36.480 in the primary, and he did not seem to be at all familiar with who he was.

00:27:40.420 I have to be honest with you.

00:27:41.580 It was kind of I doesn't seem like he actually has like deep knowledge of this race by any means,

00:27:46.280 but he did seemingly endorse your your opponent.

00:27:50.140 And we saw what happened in Georgia last night.

00:27:52.060 I mean, that could be very powerful.

00:27:54.200 How are you going to fight back against that?

00:27:55.740 Yeah.

00:27:55.940 Well, the last time that the president interfered in the primary, Alabama elected a Democrat.

00:28:00.020 The president of the United States and the vice president doing everything they can to kind

00:28:04.060 of prop up this guy here in Missouri because he hasn't been campaigning.

00:28:07.940 He's really ticked off a lot of the grassroots with not just some of the policy positions that

00:28:12.560 he's taken, but he just hasn't showed up to any of these events.

00:28:15.980 And I think he has this sort of entitlement complex.

00:28:18.400 And it's really strange because, you know, he's this kind of Ivy League Yale lawyer, but

00:28:23.780 he kind of does this whole pretend populism thing like he's a MAGA Republican, but he's

00:28:28.040 just so not.

00:28:29.680 And I mean, if you really want to drain the swamp, if you really want to, you know, tick

00:28:34.120 off Mitch McConnell and the Republican elites, there's only one vote in Missouri that's going

00:28:38.100 to count that can actually win the primary and beat Claire McCaskill.

00:28:41.820 That's Austin Peterson for U.S. Senate.

00:28:43.780 So I think that the president of the United States probably hasn't done his research and

00:28:48.320 vetted everybody in the Senate primary.

00:28:50.200 He probably just had somebody point at Josh Hawley and said he's the guy.

00:28:53.700 And frankly, the president has better things to do than to worry about a Republican primary

00:28:57.200 in Missouri.

00:28:57.820 But he's probably called in.

00:28:59.640 So God had some favors called in for him.

00:29:01.680 And I mean, again, the question is, at the end of the day, are you an ABC voter?

00:29:06.460 Anybody but Claire.

00:29:08.480 If you want the strongest Republican Senate candidate, I'd beat her hands down. 1.00

00:29:12.460 Not only do I beat her 16 points overall, but, you know, what's really exciting, guys,

00:29:16.500 is I beat her by 41 points with young people.

00:29:19.920 And if you want to restore and revitalize the Republican Party with true conservatives and

00:29:24.640 true libertarians, I mean, I'm the best candidate who can do that here in Missouri.

00:29:28.740 So I'm hoping people are going to come out for me on August 7th and pull a vote.

00:29:32.000 Yeah, I actually believe that what you just said is true.

00:29:37.660 The country is moving in a different direction.

00:29:39.540 And if the Republicans don't don't hop on and and understand the Democrats are, the Democrats

00:29:46.100 are moving towards socialism.

00:29:48.260 And that is going to appeal to a younger group of people.

00:29:52.660 The if the Republicans just keep playing the same game, you're going to find yourself in

00:29:57.800 the dustbin of history.

00:29:58.840 You you need to move towards a constitutional libertarian, but not necessarily a crazy libertarian,

00:30:08.020 you know, a libertarian constitutional kind of candidate, because that is what the you

00:30:16.120 know, the the millennials will vote for.

00:30:18.980 And I can.

00:30:19.760 Yeah, they're fixing what they're fixing what we have put up with for so long.

00:30:24.840 They won't put up with it.

00:30:26.880 Absolutely.

00:30:27.320 I know I am the sworn enemy of democratic socialism, of communism, of collectivism.

00:30:32.540 I think that the Republican Party is at a crossroads right now, and that if we really

00:30:36.960 want the future to be a limited government future, one that we can secure the blessings

00:30:41.660 of prosperity for our posterity, then I think a conservative and libertarian alliance is what

00:30:47.920 we really need.

00:30:48.860 And there are two of us Liberty Republicans who are running this year.

00:30:52.540 Highly recommend you check out Senator Eric Brakey up in Maine, who's running against the

00:30:56.680 horrible Angus King.

00:30:58.320 He's a great guy.

00:30:59.760 And then, of course, here in Missouri, I think that there's probably no better state other

00:31:03.500 than perhaps your own state of Texas that could have someone like myself who is a true

00:31:08.280 constitutionalist, somebody who really wants to bridge the divide between left and right

00:31:13.080 and say, you know, we have so many things in common as Americans.

00:31:16.780 We need to let this partisanship come behind so that we can put our country first, put our

00:31:21.400 constitution first, put our freedom first.

00:31:23.820 And that's what's best for our children.

00:31:25.640 They want to be free.

00:31:26.560 They don't want to be saddled with student debt.

00:31:28.680 They don't want to have to, you know, they don't even want to be in Social Security.

00:31:31.780 They should be allowed to opt out when they're young people into the private marketplace.

00:31:35.040 These kinds of solutions are what get young people excited, not democratic socialism.

00:31:40.100 But if we don't put up good leaders, then I'm afraid that they may be swayed by the,

00:31:44.880 you know, Alexandria, Ocasio-Cortezes, the Bernie Sanders of the world.

00:31:48.740 Because when you just offer free stuff, free stuff, free stuff, I mean, that's a powerful

00:31:52.740 incentive for some people.

00:31:54.060 But frankly, I prefer, you know, freedom is dangerous, Glenn.

00:31:57.220 I think that's why people are afraid of it.

00:31:59.380 Freedom is dangerous as hell.

00:32:00.640 But frankly, I prefer it to the alternative.

00:32:02.580 Austin Peterson, running for U.S. Senate in Missouri.

00:32:07.100 Thanks for being on with us.

00:32:08.500 And I just, I think I have to go to the website and just put my name in so I could possibly

00:32:13.380 win the Ghost Gunner 3D printer.

00:32:17.400 You can find Austin at AustinPeterson.com, AustinPeterson.com, or follow him at AP4, the

00:32:25.500 number four, Liberty.

00:32:32.580 So air pollution, the national in national parks is as bad as it is now in the top 20

00:32:42.440 major cities in the U.S.

00:32:44.900 Wait a minute.

00:32:45.500 Why?

00:32:46.140 Did you know last week, Stu, that we had a whole bunch of did you notice?

00:32:50.100 I don't know if you were here last week, but there was it was like there was dirt in the

00:32:56.220 sky.

00:32:56.500 It was a really brownish kind of sky here.

00:32:58.620 Did you notice that?

00:33:00.000 No, it was the sands from the Sahara.

00:33:03.540 What?

00:33:04.400 Yeah.

00:33:04.660 The sands of the Sahara Desert were blowing through Texas last week.

00:33:10.200 Isn't it crazy?

00:33:11.220 That does sound crazy.

00:33:12.640 Yeah.

00:33:13.040 And it's it's apparently it happens from time to time.

00:33:15.640 And it's it's how the earth works.

00:33:17.600 It's amazing.

00:33:18.260 It actually tamps down hurricanes, the potential of hurricanes whenever that happens.

00:33:23.980 I don't know exactly how.

00:33:25.280 But anyway, so there's a lot of crap in the air that you just don't even know.

00:33:30.100 Now, the reason why these parks are so polluted is they're downwind of many air pollution sources,

00:33:36.400 agriculture, industry, major highways, urban pollutants.

00:33:39.640 So there is there is no way that you're going to get away from pollutants in the air.

00:33:44.160 We have to take it back out.

00:33:46.160 And here's how you do that.

00:33:47.560 Go to filter by dot com.

00:33:50.280 Keep a fresh set of filters in your home.

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00:33:55.480 We were just changing them in my office yesterday.

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00:34:27.120 Glenn back.

00:34:28.480 By the way, this portion of the program brought to you by the lovely city of San Francisco.

00:34:33.920 Poop-a-roni on San Francisco streets.

00:34:40.940 Yes, the makers of Poop-a-roni now on San Francisco streets.

00:34:45.280 They have we're going to get into a problem they're having there.

00:34:48.960 Now, apparently, it's very dangerous to to ride the transit system there.

00:34:54.800 I think they've had.

00:34:55.820 Is it slippery?

00:34:56.900 What's the.

00:34:57.500 No, it's just, you know, just being killed.

00:35:00.100 You know, people killing.

00:35:01.600 Oh.

00:35:02.140 System.

00:35:02.660 So a little murder.

00:35:03.920 Well, just a little bit of murder.

00:35:05.620 A dash of murder.

00:35:06.560 Dash of murder.

00:35:07.140 Has that ever hurt anyone, though?

00:35:08.860 I mean, when you think about it.

00:35:09.640 Well, yeah, the people who are murdered.

00:35:10.460 Those people.

00:35:10.980 Yeah.

00:35:11.340 Are the example of it.

00:35:12.240 Those would be citizens of San Francisco.

00:35:14.660 What is going on there?

00:35:15.960 I mean, that seems.

00:35:16.740 What's going on there?

00:35:17.660 Is it just progressivism in action?

00:35:19.300 It's progressivism in action.

00:35:19.980 Yeah.

00:35:20.320 It's it's it's.

00:35:21.500 I mean, the poop thing is definitely progressivism in action.

00:35:24.840 Right.

00:35:25.040 Like not enforcing laws like that, you know, letting homelessness become such an issue.

00:35:31.880 And, you know, basically inviting homeless people to come there and do these types of things in their city because they feel bad and they have to give away everybody's tax money is that one's clear.

00:35:45.620 The murder thing, I guess maybe it's just blaming police for everything.

00:35:49.900 What's the reason for that?

00:35:50.860 Let me.

00:35:51.460 Can I just back up for a second?

00:35:53.060 Do we really need to have a law that says don't poop on the street?

00:35:58.280 I think you've answered your question with the fact that you made a jingle.

00:36:02.340 No, I didn't.

00:36:02.940 This is this.

00:36:04.020 This is poop.

00:36:05.480 Oh, Rony on San Francisco streets.

00:36:08.260 That's that's a real deal.

00:36:09.580 Anyway, so my question is, if we need laws to say that you can't poop on streets, you you're not going to get you.

00:36:22.260 You have no place to go.

00:36:24.380 You you you have to have an authoritarian government.

00:36:29.320 Well, no, you don't.

00:36:30.720 I mean, I don't.

00:36:32.080 The large majority of people are not pooping on the streets.

00:36:35.760 Right.

00:36:36.220 I know when people do make those.

00:36:39.280 Then you need to have a bunch of people that are saying, hey, hey, hey, I'm going to cuff you or not cuff you or whatever.

00:36:47.060 It's a police force.

00:36:48.180 I don't know that I would call it an authoritarian government.

00:36:51.620 When people are pooping on the streets, you can't rule yourself.

00:36:57.820 Glenn Beck.

00:36:59.520 Mercury.

00:37:03.760 Glenn Beck.

00:37:04.760 It's Wednesday, July 25th.

00:37:07.640 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:37:09.300 I have a lot to talk about today.

00:37:10.500 I want to talk to you about Elon Musk.

00:37:12.500 There's something going on with the media and Elon Musk and Elon Musk is behaving erratically.

00:37:18.300 But I think I know what it is.

00:37:19.800 And I want to I want to take you through it.

00:37:21.800 There was an incredible article that just tore him apart a couple of days ago.

00:37:27.500 And I want to talk to you about that.

00:37:28.520 Also, why socialism or how socialism kills countries.

00:37:32.640 That's coming up in about an hour from now.

00:37:34.760 We want to talk about the farm bill that the president has just pushed out and this tape that CNN has has released last night.

00:37:45.620 Now, let me ask you a couple of things.

00:37:48.500 I have seen I have seen tapes come out and played on the news.

00:37:59.800 I don't even know how many times a thousand times.

00:38:04.660 Ten thousand times.

00:38:06.440 I've I've seen this happen over and over again throughout my lifetime.

00:38:11.620 And all of the tapes have one thing in common.

00:38:17.300 When you see them on television and you're listening to them, what is the one thing that every single tape that you've ever seen have in common?

00:38:27.920 What is it, Stu?

00:38:30.600 I mean, particularly if the audio quality is not easy to understand, you know, like if you think of like the Mitt Romney, 47 percent video.

00:38:41.080 Do you remember seeing that?

00:38:41.860 You can kind of picture that in your mind at the bottom of the of the video.

00:38:45.000 You always see what the transcript as it goes.

00:38:48.760 OK, have you heard by word?

00:38:50.380 Have you heard audio tapes that are in worse condition than this one?

00:38:56.900 I mean, very rarely.

00:38:57.920 It's it's it's you know, there's been some, but they're there.

00:39:00.780 This is a pretty bad quality audio tape, at least at times.

00:39:03.920 Right.

00:39:04.360 But you've but somehow or another we have.

00:39:06.840 Oh, yeah, you've seen worse.

00:39:07.640 And the media has has declared what it said.

00:39:11.560 Now, CNN decides to run this tape and they are very clear on what it says.

00:39:15.920 They think that it says Donald Trump said pay in cash and they challenge you to listen to it.

00:39:23.440 But that's that's what their experts say.

00:39:24.880 But they wouldn't commit to that.

00:39:27.320 Otherwise, they would have put that transcript down.

00:39:30.740 But they don't run a transcript on any of it.

00:39:34.620 OK, so last night, Lanny Davis comes on and he is Cohen's attorney.

00:39:40.280 Now, why would he hire Lanny Davis as an attorney?

00:39:42.920 Because that seems to be a sign that he's turning on Trump.

00:39:48.760 Oh, yeah.

00:39:49.260 Right.

00:39:49.500 That's seemingly at least that's what everyone's saying.

00:39:52.340 So Lanny Davis gets on and says, you have to listen to the tape.

00:39:55.800 Don't take my look.

00:39:56.560 I'm a Democrat.

00:39:57.200 Don't take my word for it.

00:39:58.140 Listen to the tape.

00:39:59.100 So I did over and over and over again.

00:40:02.320 And I want you to listen to the tape.

00:40:04.400 Now, you're going to hear in this part.

00:40:06.080 They're talking about, you know, they've got to they've got to take care of this thing and they've got to set up some sort of a fund and pay into it.

00:40:17.000 And the question is, and it's muffled.

00:40:19.960 Did Donald Trump say pay in cash or don't pay in cash?

00:40:26.040 If he said don't pay in cash, then it's consistent with what he said.

00:40:33.840 And if he didn't, then Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani are liars.

00:40:40.980 OK, now, this this is this is where the media is.

00:40:46.440 I'm going to take you beyond the media here in a second.

00:40:48.480 But it's important first to establish this.

00:40:51.260 What does he say here?

00:40:53.360 And it was it's preceded or you will hear right after you will hear Cohen saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:41:02.660 And the way he says it to me is like an agreement.

00:41:05.540 No, no, no, no.

00:41:06.100 I know.

00:41:06.440 I know.

00:41:06.700 I know.

00:41:07.780 Listen.

00:41:08.140 And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be.

00:41:12.560 Listen, what finance?

00:41:14.480 We'll have to pay.

00:41:16.260 So, OK, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:41:18.100 I got no, no, no, no.

00:41:19.800 Play it again.

00:41:21.640 And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be.

00:41:25.600 Listen, what finance?

00:41:27.580 Well, stop.

00:41:28.360 He said, stop, stop, stop.

00:41:29.840 He said financing.

00:41:32.320 What financing?

00:41:33.560 Well, we're going to have to make a payment somehow.

00:41:36.980 Listen again now.

00:41:37.660 Listen, and I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be.

00:41:41.960 Listen, what finance?

00:41:43.860 We'll have to pay.

00:41:45.640 So, OK, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:41:47.520 I got no, no, no.

00:41:48.880 What did he say?

00:41:52.200 Now, it's hard to hear, but I listened to it with headphones on this morning and I listened

00:41:59.620 to it over and over and over again.

00:42:01.400 And to me, it is really clear that he said, don't pay in cash.

00:42:07.440 Can you do it one more time?

00:42:08.400 Yes.

00:42:09.240 And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be.

00:42:13.100 Listen, what finance?

00:42:15.000 Well, I have to pay.

00:42:16.800 So, OK, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:42:18.640 I got no, no, no.

00:42:19.940 Stu, I feel like he says, don't pay with cash.

00:42:25.480 Right.

00:42:26.740 Now, there are ways to figure out exactly what he said.

00:42:33.140 CNN decides to run with this.

00:42:39.260 Why?

00:42:41.400 Because they're absolutely convinced, he says, pay in cash.

00:42:46.580 He does.

00:42:47.560 He just says it after don't.

00:42:49.360 Right.

00:42:50.160 Right.

00:42:50.940 Now, maybe he does say pay in cash.

00:42:54.240 I don't know.

00:42:55.720 I'm not.

00:42:56.780 I haven't done forensics on this, but you can do forensics.

00:43:02.100 Can you send this tape right away to Nick?

00:43:04.920 Yeah, sure.

00:43:05.380 Our audio guy.

00:43:06.200 See if he can clean it up and boost it and see if he can turn it around for us this morning.

00:43:10.600 OK.

00:43:11.080 Because I think when he's saying he's saying essentially don't pay it in cash and then Cohen saying, well, of course not.

00:43:17.380 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:43:18.860 Obviously, we're not going to pay it.

00:43:20.060 Right.

00:43:20.860 That's exactly the way it sounds.

00:43:23.300 If you would have said, you know, Glenn, you know, or let me use a real life example.

00:43:28.860 My wife says to me, you're not wearing that out.

00:43:31.500 Outside, are you?

00:43:33.380 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:43:34.900 And then I go in and change, even though I had every intention of wearing that outside.

00:43:39.760 OK.

00:43:40.980 So Cohen may have been considering paying in cash, but as soon as he hears Trump say don't pay in cash.

00:43:46.260 Right.

00:43:46.860 He's like, no, no, no, no.

00:43:47.800 Of course not.

00:43:48.260 Of course not.

00:43:48.660 I got it.

00:43:50.320 It's possible.

00:43:50.960 OK, so now the question is.

00:43:57.840 The media is making this into see Donald Trump is lying to you about a payoff.

00:44:08.960 With a playboy playmate that he had sex with.

00:44:18.180 Is there anything new there, Stu?

00:44:20.000 Is there anything new there?

00:44:21.340 Anything that you didn't know was in the realm of wild possibilities?

00:44:26.920 Not just possible, highly probable if Donald Trump were elected president.

00:44:34.000 No, I mean, we we all kind of priced this one in.

00:44:37.420 Yeah, we all know.

00:44:39.200 Oh, he.

00:44:40.140 Wait a minute.

00:44:40.980 Hold it.

00:44:41.680 Just a second.

00:44:42.220 Donald Trump likes the ladies.

00:44:46.200 Donald Trump likes big buxom blondes. 0.99

00:44:51.100 I believe she's a brunette. 1.00

00:44:53.000 I believe whatever.

00:44:54.640 Here's Donald Trump may have made it with a penthouse pet or a playmate.

00:45:01.760 No way.

00:45:03.440 There's not a lot of surprise coming out of that.

00:45:05.080 No, there's not.

00:45:06.440 Yeah.

00:45:06.600 I mean, and and Donald Trump, who has this angel of an attorney, they might pay people

00:45:16.320 off to keep them quiet.

00:45:18.740 Shut up. 0.95

00:45:20.560 No, it's not a surprise.

00:45:21.940 Right.

00:45:22.120 This is this is akin to coming out and saying now and expecting people to be surprised.

00:45:30.400 Did you know that in New York, Donald Trump kind of worked with the mob?

00:45:35.840 I mean, he didn't kill anybody, but yeah, he he was working with the mob to get his buildings

00:45:40.400 built and stuff.

00:45:41.300 He'd do some payoffs from time to time with the mob.

00:45:45.360 Get out of here.

00:45:47.340 So you mean the guy who had the casino in Atlantic City, the guy, that guy, the guy who can build

00:45:55.460 buildings twice as fast as anyone else doesn't seem to be slowed down by anything in a city

00:46:02.220 riddled with unions and mobsters?

00:46:05.680 Shut up. 0.95

00:46:07.960 I mean, there's no surprise there.

00:46:10.740 Everybody has already baked this in.

00:46:13.600 OK, and here's what the media is doing.

00:46:17.340 The media is missing the real question.

00:46:23.300 They just think that, see, we caught him.

00:46:26.120 We caught him.

00:46:26.720 He was lying.

00:46:28.400 It's Donald Trump.

00:46:31.320 It's Donald Trump.

00:46:32.900 Yeah.

00:46:33.080 I mean, look, it's it's a tough thing because, you know, Trump pretty clearly denied that he

00:46:39.900 had any knowledge of this payoff.

00:46:43.100 Yes.

00:46:43.380 He did.

00:46:44.880 Did you believe it at the time?

00:46:46.120 I did not.

00:46:47.060 Yes.

00:46:47.380 Neither did I, nor did anyone else.

00:46:49.240 I don't care what Reverend Jeffrey says.

00:46:53.240 He didn't believe it either.

00:46:54.940 Right.

00:46:55.380 You know, I don't care what I don't care what any of these these these pious religious believe.

00:47:01.080 Well, no, he this happened a long time ago and he's changed.

00:47:04.820 It doesn't matter.

00:47:06.900 It doesn't matter.

00:47:08.660 Not to the average person with Donald Trump.

00:47:12.140 It doesn't matter.

00:47:14.220 I think it's all priced in.

00:47:15.320 Right.

00:47:15.620 I wish it did, but it doesn't.

00:47:18.140 Yeah.

00:47:18.560 Yeah.

00:47:19.040 You know, it's I think you can fairly say that if we had a Democrat on tape who was talking

00:47:27.820 about a payoff to a media source.

00:47:29.880 Now, this is different.

00:47:31.340 Purchase and hide a story.

00:47:32.820 Yes.

00:47:33.380 We would be a little upset about that.

00:47:35.340 Yes.

00:47:36.080 Especially in the weeks leading up to an election.

00:47:39.640 Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

00:47:40.820 But again, you know, I do think that this is all at this point priced in.

00:47:45.900 You know, you look at the other day, I happened to be scrolling through some, you know, some

00:47:50.320 of the nerdy stat sites that I look at and one of them had posted just a a graph of Donald

00:47:58.160 Trump's approval rating since he took office.

00:48:00.700 If that thing had moved more than four points in either direction since he the day he walked

00:48:06.560 in, I would have been surprised.

00:48:07.620 It's basically a straight line from left to right.

00:48:10.500 Everybody does.

00:48:11.340 Everybody has.

00:48:12.300 Everyone has an opinion of Donald Trump.

00:48:15.460 They know who he is and nobody's moving.

00:48:19.440 Nobody is moving.

00:48:20.840 Right.

00:48:20.960 And I think, you know, look, you look at this and I think you can fairly say, you know,

00:48:24.880 he's done a lot of really good things since he's been in office.

00:48:27.380 If you're if you're a Republican or a conservative, you'd probably like at least one, if not two

00:48:31.940 of his Supreme Court justice picks.

00:48:34.000 You like that the economy has been doing pretty well.

00:48:36.600 You know, there are there are things that there are things to like.

00:48:38.700 Certainly, like ISIS and, you know, is a big one.

00:48:43.500 There's been a lot of positive things that have happened.

00:48:46.300 And so you price in.

00:48:48.060 OK, well, I know he does some stuff that that used to make me uncomfortable, but I'm going

00:48:53.520 to put up with it because there's some things that I really like.

00:48:56.720 And I think that's the decision that people are making on a day to day basis.

00:49:00.660 I don't think this type of thing surprises this activity surprises anybody.

00:49:05.400 I mean, look at the way Cohen was acting in the campaign.

00:49:07.820 He was acting just like this and was caught on tape acting just like this during the campaign

00:49:14.060 with a story he didn't like about Trump during the campaign, screaming at reporters, threatening

00:49:19.600 with them with lawsuits.

00:49:21.020 This is what his business was.

00:49:23.160 Payoffs, threats, you know, nobody's surprised by this, but he's surprised and nobody should

00:49:28.160 be surprised that Michael Cohen is America's worst attorney.

00:49:32.140 The fact that he would go in there and record his own client in a sensitive conversation like

00:49:37.420 that is absolutely inexcusable as the as an attorney.

00:49:44.220 He should never get another client.

00:49:45.600 Luckily, he's only had like one anyway.

00:49:47.720 OK, so here's the guy who knows where all the bodies are buried.

00:49:51.360 Yeah.

00:49:51.960 If Donald Trump ever did anything, he knows really illegal.

00:49:55.300 Certainly Michael Cohen knows it.

00:49:56.840 He thinks that this is this.

00:50:00.260 This should give Trump supporters some some hope.

00:50:04.480 I think.

00:50:06.460 This is the one that he releases.

00:50:10.600 Now, you could make the case that he's holding back something really, really juicy, but if

00:50:15.840 you just want this to go away, you you release something.

00:50:20.580 This this is nothing.

00:50:22.060 This is nothing.

00:50:22.980 This is not going to change the polls either way.

00:50:26.360 Yeah, I think everyone's going to take what they want out of it.

00:50:28.760 Everybody's going to say he said didn't or he did say, yes, you got to pay in cash.

00:50:33.580 It doesn't matter.

00:50:34.800 So everybody hardens their position.

00:50:37.840 And if this is the thing that they have, that is the smoking gun, this is this is Cohen

00:50:44.580 saying, I got to get him on tape for this.

00:50:47.160 Now, think about this.

00:50:48.720 He's not the worst attorney.

00:50:50.560 He is a he believes in self-preservation.

00:50:54.720 If Donald Trump is a guy who can turn on you and destroy you and you're burying all of

00:51:01.880 the bodies, you want to make sure that you have some insurance.

00:51:05.960 I suppose that's true, although that's the exact opposite.

00:51:07.980 What is attorney supposed to do?

00:51:09.680 An attorney to defend their client at personal risk, no matter what, whatever they have to

00:51:14.340 do, they're supposed to say all sorts of things that they might not even believe.

00:51:17.840 Yes.

00:51:18.520 To defend their client and get their client the best possible defense, recording the guy,

00:51:23.520 a guy who, by the way, was weeks away from a presidential election and storing that

00:51:28.980 in your home, by the way.

00:51:31.320 So if you get rated, they're going to find it is the sign of the worst attorney of all

00:51:36.540 time.

00:51:36.840 He's clearly the worst attorney of all time.

00:51:38.700 OK, so clearly give me two other parts.

00:51:40.860 First of all, there's supposedly only 12 tapes that they found.

00:51:44.660 And this is the only one with Donald Trump's voice on it.

00:51:47.260 So if you think there's something else coming from the tape, there's nothing that doesn't

00:51:49.820 seem to be anything, at least how it's been reported so far.

00:51:52.900 This is as bad as it gets for Donald Trump, at least with his voice on a tape that we know

00:51:57.180 of.

00:51:57.760 I think that's kind of interesting.

00:51:59.000 The second thing is, why is Cohen doing this?

00:52:01.680 Cohen is either really flipped on Donald Trump after all these years.

00:52:06.000 It's possible that he's flipped on him and he's decided, you know what?

00:52:09.540 I've got no path left.

00:52:10.600 Self-preservation.

00:52:11.740 And I'm going to go with a Democratic attorney, a Clinton-associated attorney, and go for this

00:52:17.200 and try to make friends on the other side and hopefully get out of this.

00:52:20.020 That could be his approach here.

00:52:21.720 The other possible approach, in my mind, is that he's looking for signaling from the White 0.74

00:52:27.680 House that if something goes down and Cohen gets in trouble, he's going to get pardoned.

00:52:33.280 Right?

00:52:33.680 He wants Trump to come out, kind of like he's done with Flynn he signaled this way a little

00:52:39.980 bit.

00:52:40.340 He certainly did it with the sheriff in Arizona that he wound up pardoning, where he kind of

00:52:46.420 comes out and says, look, they're coming after him with ridiculous partisan attacks.

00:52:51.580 And if they're going to do that, well, then I'm going to have to pardon him.

00:52:54.340 And if he would signal that, I think Cohen probably is going to be fine.

00:52:59.040 But he's signaling the opposite.

00:53:01.440 He's saying what I'm saying about Michael Cohen, which is what kind of crap heap of attorney

00:53:05.460 is going to come out and record his own client.

00:53:08.900 So if he does have more, if anything on these 12 tapes is really bad and and he gets into

00:53:17.380 trouble, Cohen will flip hard on Trump.

00:53:21.420 But what would make anybody care?

00:53:24.700 See, because the press, the press is so discredited themselves.

00:53:29.040 If the press would have come out and talked about Donald Trump from the beginning and

00:53:36.460 been fair, maybe, maybe things would be different, but they haven't every step of the way.

00:53:44.320 They've been unfair.

00:53:45.360 I want to give you an example when we come back.

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00:54:51.140 You know, the problem with the media is they do not understand the art of persuasion.

00:55:00.640 And they don't understand the art of persuasion anymore because they haven't been challenged.

00:55:05.740 See, back in the 1950s, when they were embedding messages in movies, et cetera, et cetera,

00:55:11.300 they were doing those things intentionally because they had to persuade Americans to move.

00:55:20.580 Now, the current crop of people, they've never been challenged on any of these things.

00:55:25.660 They're in the they're in the mainstream of their culture.

00:55:29.960 The media has never been challenged, really seriously challenged.

00:55:34.360 They're all in lockstep.

00:55:36.420 And so they don't understand the art of persuasion.

00:55:39.620 They don't even think they have to make the case.

00:55:42.760 They just say it.

00:55:44.160 And it is.

00:55:45.640 And people are supposed to fall in line.

00:55:47.300 And when people don't fall in line, they they don't understand it.

00:55:53.060 And so they become more and more unfair and unreasonable.

00:55:57.400 And they can't explain anything to anyone because they've lost that ability because they've never had to.

00:56:04.800 So if the media would have come out at the very beginning, for instance, let me take the collusion thing with Russia.

00:56:12.400 They've been saying forever collusion, collusion, collusion.

00:56:17.060 OK, when this story first broke, I was probably one of the first to say, well, yeah, I bet I bet if they had, you know,

00:56:26.640 when they had those emails saying, hey, we got something on Hillary Clinton and Don Jr.

00:56:32.200 writes back and says, hey, well, why don't you stop on by?

00:56:34.500 We're very interested in that.

00:56:36.880 OK, when they had just that, I was like, absolutely, absolutely.

00:56:41.500 They colluded.

00:56:43.080 Absolutely.

00:56:43.460 However, that's not the way the scenario played out.

00:56:52.060 But the media continued to say it did.

00:56:56.940 Let me let me pick it up there next.

00:57:04.240 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

00:57:06.400 So we're talking about the Cohen tapes and do they even matter?

00:57:10.100 And I contend, no, and I contend that they don't matter for a couple of reasons.

00:57:15.820 First of all, it to me, it sounds like he is saying don't pay cash.

00:57:23.640 Now, CNN says it sounds to them like he says pay in cash.

00:57:29.460 If if that's the best you got where we're both hearing and let's say we're both being honest,

00:57:35.260 we're both hearing that you got nothing.

00:57:38.660 You got nothing.

00:57:40.100 OK, is it even that big of a deal?

00:57:43.840 The format of the payment?

00:57:45.760 No, I don't think the payment.

00:57:47.840 Yeah, you're worried about it at all.

00:57:49.380 It's show they're trying to say that he's lying.

00:57:51.720 No, shut up. 1.00

00:57:54.740 OK, so let me show you why this does matter.

00:58:00.320 But it won't matter.

00:58:02.640 And it's the press who's at fault.

00:58:05.940 OK.

00:58:06.240 Like I said, you go into a drug dealer and you say, hey, you want to buy some crack?

00:58:12.560 You can send him an email.

00:58:13.520 I want to buy some crack.

00:58:15.380 He says, come to my crack house.

00:58:17.280 So you pull up.

00:58:18.460 You have the money and you walk in and you feel spooked.

00:58:22.400 And so you don't buy any crack.

00:58:23.920 Or you say, hey, where's the crack you promised?

00:58:27.520 And they say, well, I don't have any crack.

00:58:30.300 And you say, what?

00:58:31.440 I drove all the way down here for crack.

00:58:34.180 I don't have any crack.

00:58:35.260 Well, I was going to buy crack from you.

00:58:37.700 Well, I don't have any crack to sell you.

00:58:40.120 Damn it.

00:58:41.400 You walk out.

00:58:42.880 The feds could be recording you.

00:58:46.580 It doesn't matter.

00:58:47.240 You didn't buy crack, did you?

00:58:49.220 That was your intent.

00:58:50.900 You didn't buy crack.

00:58:52.720 So they got nothing.

00:58:55.320 They got nothing.

00:58:56.620 That's just the way the law works.

00:58:58.600 So they start with this collusion.

00:59:01.120 No, it's not.

00:59:02.080 Might have been.

00:59:03.260 Hey, we've got some crack on Hillary Clinton. 0.73

00:59:05.480 I like crack.

00:59:06.880 Can you come to the office?

00:59:08.620 Sure.

00:59:09.180 Bring your crack.

00:59:10.260 Crack, OK, they get in the office.

00:59:13.320 They don't have crack.

00:59:15.820 You can talk about maybe they would have colluded, but they didn't.

00:59:21.960 OK, you got nothing.

00:59:23.780 You got nothing.

00:59:24.520 If the media would have come out and said just that, look, it looks like he wanted to collude,

00:59:30.100 but they didn't in the end.

00:59:32.780 Now, it could be because they didn't have any crack.

00:59:35.900 But we also don't have any evidence while we were in the meeting that he said,

00:59:39.520 hey, where's the crack?

00:59:41.260 And even if he did say that, it's not collusion until they make a deal.

00:59:47.780 So they they didn't do that.

00:59:52.640 Instead, they went after him with everything.

00:59:56.160 Now, this whole this whole Russia gate has been going on and going on and going on. 0.64

01:00:02.140 They spent I don't know how many how many hours, how many days, how many months now digesting this and and regurgitating and eating it up again on television,

01:00:12.840 doing all they can to make sure, you know, everything Donald Trump does is bad.

01:00:18.780 Now, let's just say they would have been good the whole time and said, you know, there's nothing there's no collusion here.

01:00:26.500 There is a problem with Russia, but there's no collusion here.

01:00:29.200 Would he wanted to have colluded?

01:00:30.820 Looks like it, but he didn't.

01:00:32.520 So we got to move on.

01:00:33.660 If they would have dealt with him like this in a reasonable way, maybe, maybe people would have cared when you come out with this tape, but not for the reason you are saying.

01:00:49.940 The media is like, look, he's lying.

01:00:53.360 It's Donald Trump.

01:00:55.680 But if his lips are moving, there's a pretty good shot.

01:01:00.160 He's not saying what's really happening.

01:01:04.020 OK, and that's a lot of times by his own design, his own defenders.

01:01:08.080 People like that will say, you know, this is him negotiating.

01:01:11.140 Right.

01:01:11.480 Exactly.

01:01:12.000 Making a harsh statement about X topic.

01:01:14.480 He doesn't actually mean it.

01:01:15.400 What they say this to us all the time about tariffs.

01:01:17.900 Right.

01:01:18.320 Like, oh, no, he doesn't.

01:01:19.120 He's not actually going to do these tariffs.

01:01:20.700 That's not really what he wants to do.

01:01:22.080 He's just negotiating with these other countries.

01:01:24.260 OK, so maybe.

01:01:25.680 He is.

01:01:26.140 It's Donald Trump.

01:01:27.740 You don't know.

01:01:28.540 You cannot take what he says seriously.

01:01:30.860 You have to take what he does seriously.

01:01:35.780 All right.

01:01:37.900 So they come to you and say, look, he's just he's here.

01:01:42.880 He is on tape with his attorney trying to buy a story from a media outlet to suppress it.

01:01:52.140 Now, that's different than I bought story.

01:01:54.820 It's a stormy Daniels story.

01:01:57.760 So she wouldn't share it to the press.

01:01:59.920 That's different.

01:02:01.180 That's a transaction between you and her. 1.00

01:02:02.960 And that's her business.

01:02:04.480 You might think it's shady, but it's, you know, but it's what's done.

01:02:08.180 OK, this I'm I'm very uncomfortable with a candidate for anything, a president, candidate, vice president, senator, anyone being able to go to the press and say, you have that story.

01:02:22.680 Listen, don't run that story.

01:02:24.140 It'll give you X number of dollars.

01:02:25.400 That's a problem for me.

01:02:29.580 Yeah.

01:02:29.820 And it's something that I don't think he did anything illegal.

01:02:32.280 Nope.

01:02:32.680 Here.

01:02:33.300 Nope.

01:02:34.020 You know, I don't know.

01:02:35.060 I can't say that I'm well versed enough in campaign finance law to say that.

01:02:38.320 I don't know.

01:02:38.760 Complete certainty.

01:02:40.020 But I mean, I don't think he did anything illegal, although I think in the future it may be something we want to at least consider making illegal.

01:02:47.680 Can you I mean, because we suck at this.

01:02:49.580 We have no media sources.

01:02:50.760 Can you imagine how a Democrat would be able to exploit this?

01:02:55.340 And they probably have.

01:02:56.780 Right.

01:02:57.340 Where if a Democrat, if it was legal and acceptable for a presidential candidate a few weeks before the election to go to The New York Times and say, here's a million dollars.

01:03:07.260 Get this person's story.

01:03:08.320 Convince them you're going to run it and then just bury it.

01:03:12.180 That that is not something I would want Barack Obama to do or, you know, Kamala Harris to do or any other Democrat in the future.

01:03:20.060 And they're going to be a lot better at it than we are.

01:03:22.320 So here's and see.

01:03:23.440 But this is this is one reason why it doesn't matter.

01:03:27.420 If he had gone to The Washington Post, let's go.

01:03:29.700 Let's be reasonable.

01:03:30.580 He goes to Fox News.

01:03:31.960 They have this story and they're like, I got this story.

01:03:34.440 We're going to run.

01:03:34.980 And he says, I got to give you a million dollars and you make that disappear.

01:03:38.320 Right.

01:03:39.400 Oh, yeah.

01:03:39.840 OK.

01:03:40.580 Let's Fox News.

01:03:41.720 This is the National Enquirer.

01:03:44.500 OK, they don't have any real credibility as it is.

01:03:49.320 So going to the National Enquirer and saying, OK, I just don't want the headache.

01:03:53.580 What is this going to cost?

01:03:54.780 Yeah, that's different than The New York Times.

01:03:58.920 So there are levels of this.

01:04:02.080 I still don't want somebody to be able to do it.

01:04:04.280 But it's not against the law that I know of.

01:04:08.420 And it is shady.

01:04:11.520 But it's Donald Trump negotiating with the National Enquirer.

01:04:18.700 I mean, what part what part of that isn't shady?

01:04:23.700 Yeah.

01:04:23.900 I mean, look, we you know, this is, again, I think priced in.

01:04:26.980 A lot of people are saying, well, how can this be a lie if the payment never happened?

01:04:30.280 Well, first of all, we don't have record of it happening right now.

01:04:32.680 We know we know the payment happened from the source they're talking about to the porn star or to.

01:04:38.360 I don't know if this playboy count as a porn star.

01:04:40.440 I don't know.

01:04:41.160 But she had a close model. 0.98

01:04:43.220 I think she did.

01:04:43.860 Yeah.

01:04:44.180 OK.

01:04:44.520 I didn't see the photos of this particular person.

01:04:47.520 But if you go in and if that payment, we know that part of the payment definitely happened.

01:04:51.800 That's on record and has been already talked about and discussed widely.

01:04:54.800 The payment from the media source to her, she was paid and told that she was going to be able to run columns on the site and everything else.

01:05:05.940 So we know that part of it happened.

01:05:07.560 We don't know for sure whether the payment happened from Cohen or from another organization to the media, to this media source from some other direction.

01:05:16.480 We know they talked about it.

01:05:17.820 We know he said he had no awareness of it.

01:05:19.780 And now he's on tape being very aware of it.

01:05:22.600 So, I mean, we can all brush this off as nothing.

01:05:25.360 And I think because there's probably nothing illegal here, that might very well be the right thing to do as far as the grand scheme of things.

01:05:32.500 Though, let's just think about this for a moment.

01:05:34.360 Do we want this precedent going forward?

01:05:36.600 No.

01:05:36.980 I think probably we should do something.

01:05:38.940 Nothing to do with Donald Trump.

01:05:40.540 It's like what they did with FDR, right? 0.93

01:05:43.200 FDR had a, he ran fair and square, ran for multiple terms past two.

01:05:50.740 He went for three, he went for four.

01:05:52.700 And he probably would have kept running until the end of time.

01:05:55.340 When he died, everyone said, okay, he did that fair and square.

01:05:58.960 Let's set a new precedent going forward that we don't want presidential candidates paying media sources to hide stories.

01:06:08.080 That really shouldn't be something that's allowed.

01:06:10.520 Let me ask you this, if Hillary Clinton would have done exactly the same thing and she were on TV saying it's a vast right wing conspiracy and deny, deny, deny, deny, deny.

01:06:21.920 But then tape came out and it showed her with, uh, I'm trying to think of a joke like the national inquirer, the New York times.

01:06:32.020 And, uh, it shows that it shows that she is, uh, uh, she colluded with or, or paid off somebody.

01:06:40.780 Let's just say it was the, you know, the daily news.

01:06:43.320 Yeah.

01:06:43.660 Okay.

01:06:43.960 Let's say that not the New York times, the daily news, something that is like.

01:06:47.120 They, they do a tabloidy type stunt like that.

01:06:49.740 Right.

01:06:50.120 Okay.

01:06:50.640 So they, she did a deal with that.

01:06:53.000 We would be pretty outraged if it was Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, New York times, then I'd really be upset.

01:07:01.020 But if she was paying a journalist to hide a story that they had, I would have a problem with that.

01:07:07.700 And not even that to go out and get right.

01:07:10.240 Like he, they went out and got the story captured, catch and, and kill, they call it.

01:07:15.220 He would, they went out and got the story to kill it.

01:07:17.340 It wasn't like they were about to run it and they got a payment.

01:07:19.580 Don't run it.

01:07:20.720 They went and they, they went out and bought the story so they could kill it.

01:07:25.560 I mean, you know, or sell it.

01:07:27.820 Well, no, but they didn't.

01:07:28.780 Yeah.

01:07:28.940 They, I mean, they got the story so that they would suppress it.

01:07:32.780 And it could be, I guess.

01:07:33.520 I mean, sell it to Donald Trump.

01:07:35.140 Right.

01:07:35.660 I guess that could be it.

01:07:36.640 The point is though, that this is not a good precedent.

01:07:38.420 I think we can all agree that that's, that's whether you think that he, whether he did

01:07:41.580 was illegal or not, whether you think that, well, we all knew this about Trump, whether

01:07:45.400 you think, well, the payment wasn't officially, that officially go through, let's just say

01:07:48.920 it didn't go through and there's nothing to talk about here.

01:07:50.620 In the future, we should probably do something to make sure that this isn't a normal occurrence.

01:07:55.940 And if it's happened, because if it's happened, if this comes out on Hillary Clinton tomorrow,

01:08:00.040 that a week before the election, she paid the New York Daily News a bunch of money to hide a story. 0.97

01:08:05.340 I'm going to be really outraged about that.

01:08:07.220 Aren't you?

01:08:09.360 Yeah, I will be.

01:08:10.440 I mean, I know I will be.

01:08:12.160 So the point here is that, you know, a lot of times we have.

01:08:15.100 And you can't be unless you either stand against it right now and say, I'm outraged by this,

01:08:23.120 but he, it's not against the law.

01:08:25.860 As far as I know.

01:08:26.900 But yeah, as far as I know, it's not against the law.

01:08:28.600 So if it's not against the law, then he had every right to do it.

01:08:33.980 Now, let's change that law so he or anybody else cannot do that.

01:08:38.980 Because it is outrageous that you would, you would stifle a story.

01:08:43.740 You would buy a story from a media outlet to stifle it and to kill it.

01:08:48.480 That's not cool.

01:08:49.540 That's not a free press.

01:08:50.740 The free press, I mean, I would be just as mad at the, you know, New York Times or Washington Post if they had done a deal like this with Hillary Clinton.

01:09:01.100 I'd be equally as mad at them.

01:09:04.080 Why isn't anybody throwing up, you know, the National Enquirer?

01:09:07.720 Because they have no journalistic credibility.

01:09:11.100 And that's really saying something in a, in a world where no one has any journalistic integrity.

01:09:28.400 Let me tell you about Goldline.

01:09:31.380 I'm just reading a story here about the housing prices that are collapsing.

01:09:36.580 Also, the farm subsidies that are coming out.

01:09:39.040 That's, that's, that, this is bad.

01:09:41.100 This is really bad.

01:09:42.860 The farm subsidies?

01:09:44.100 Wait a minute.

01:09:44.400 We're paying our farmers because our trade policy is backfiring?

01:09:49.380 That doesn't sound good.

01:09:53.480 Anyway, things are, things are dicey.

01:09:58.060 Now, not as dicey as they are in Venezuela yet.

01:10:01.860 Venezuela apparently is going to have 1 million percent inflation by the end of the year.

01:10:07.780 You imagine that?

01:10:08.760 1 million dollar inflation?

01:10:11.100 Price controls are being hurt because the government said in and said, okay, so you can't charge that much for flour because people have to eat.

01:10:20.520 Well, now factories are stopping making flour because they can't afford to make it because the price controls.

01:10:25.880 And so it just is this vicious cycle.

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01:11:05.980 You count that as a workout when you break those bars?

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01:12:03.760 Welcome back to the program.

01:12:05.420 Coming up in a few minutes, we have Andrew Klavan joining us.

01:12:08.880 He is going to be talking about how socialism kills countries.

01:12:13.380 Uh, and, uh, he did a really great monologue on it yesterday.

01:12:18.040 Andrew Klavan joins us in just a few minutes.

01:12:20.060 Also, we need to talk a little bit about the farm bill.

01:12:23.400 Uh, you know, talking about socialism.

01:12:24.880 This is socialism and it's caused by us.

01:12:28.700 Now, I'd love to hear from farmers, uh, because I would imagine that a lot of farmers are like, look, I'm going to give this a try for a while here.

01:12:36.700 But, you know, because I'm hoping that what Donald Trump is doing is a negotiation tactic and this is going to either work or he's going to stop doing it soon.

01:12:44.720 But we're now, we're now offering billions of dollars in aid to buy all of the pork and beef and everything else that is, that is sitting in a freezer someplace that nobody wants.

01:12:57.960 And, uh, Donald Trump suggested that maybe we buy all of that and, and give it to food banks.

01:13:03.040 Well, that's good, except that's our tax dollars.

01:13:06.340 This, that's, that's socialism.

01:13:08.720 And what you've done is you've, you've, you've caused this by your quote, negotiation tactics on trade.

01:13:18.400 It's not good.

01:13:19.640 And I'm hoping that, uh, we don't go down this road very much further, uh, but we'll talk about that.

01:13:26.320 And, um, and also Elon Musk, I have a reason, I think why Elon Musk is, uh, getting the, the, the, uh, the straight arm from, uh, the people on the left in the media.

01:13:43.640 Why are they shunning him?

01:13:45.380 I'll tell you next.

01:13:46.420 Glenn Beck, man, if you, if you listen at all to the mainstream media, you think the world is ending because of, uh, fake news and, and, and my gosh, it's just couldn't get any worse.

01:13:58.520 Well, actually it is a lot worse in countries like India, fake news and the danger it poses is not hyperbole because this is happening there in private messaging apps.

01:14:12.100 24 people have been killed by mob lynchings just in India this year's this year because of fake news that is being spread on things like WhatsApp.

01:14:24.620 Now, private messaging app, WhatsApp, telegram, WeChat line, what these are, these are, um, these are apps where people can forward messages to their friends or groups.

01:14:35.080 Uh, and there's no way to determine the origin of the message and the messages are all, uh, encrypted.

01:14:41.620 So no one could read the message that isn't intended for them.

01:14:45.620 So nobody, nobody can monitor this.

01:14:48.280 Even the employees of the apps can't access the messages.

01:14:52.420 And now somebody has found a way to weaponize them.

01:14:55.860 So in India, uh, there was a group of friends that were driving through a village.

01:15:01.100 They paused to give chocolate to some children.

01:15:05.020 Well, somebody had started a rumor on WhatsApp that the car full of, of people that were handing out candy were kidnappers.

01:15:14.600 Uh, well, they weren't, and when they stopped to hand out candy, uh, a mob formed and overwhelmed the group of friends and they killed one of them, a 32 year old guy.

01:15:26.860 And the brother of the guy said, look, I, I did everything I could.

01:15:30.060 I was screaming at a stop, stop, stop.

01:15:32.040 We're not kidnappers.

01:15:34.100 And he said, my brother has been killed by fake news.

01:15:38.240 In Brazil, fake message claiming that a yellow fever vaccine was, uh, was dangerous that spread through WhatsApp.

01:15:47.620 And so people did not go and take the mandatory vaccine that the government, uh, was handing out.

01:15:53.400 They had a, they had to go and, and debunk that claim.

01:15:57.480 But still how many people in today's world, how many people are going to believe, you know, the government over an anonymous WhatsApp message.

01:16:06.580 I mean, that's how crazy it is.

01:16:09.280 WhatsApp was, um, uh, developed by two libertarians, deep belief in privacy.

01:16:14.420 The whole concept for the app revolved around not mining and storing information about people.

01:16:21.140 In 2014, Facebook bought WhatsApp for $19 billion.

01:16:26.540 Now, ironically, the privacy controls that made this and similar apps so appealing are the very things that people are now using to weaponize it.

01:16:36.120 And to spread fake news technology continues to improve and, and improve so many aspects of our life.

01:16:45.780 And it's going to get harder and harder to, you know, you're never going to put it back in the bottle, nor should we try.

01:16:50.820 But there's one thing it cannot improve on.

01:16:56.080 That's what that's left to us.

01:16:57.880 And that is our ability to restrain ourselves, tell and recognize the truth.

01:17:08.260 It's Wednesday, July 25th.

01:17:16.340 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:17:18.180 Andrew Klavan is, uh, is a remarkable man.

01:17:24.040 He's one of the smartest guys I've, I mean, he makes me feel just like a dumb as a box of rocks around him.

01:17:28.900 And he's, he's got an enormous vocabulary.

01:17:31.300 He's really, really super smart, uh, and, uh, very well read, uh, across, uh, across everything.

01:17:40.440 Uh, he's kind of a, he's kind of a jack of all trades.

01:17:43.640 He's a writer.

01:17:44.640 He started in the seventies as a, as a reporter.

01:17:47.120 He worked for ABC radio, writing news for them, et cetera, et cetera.

01:17:50.840 And then he started writing novels and he won some awards and made, you know, a splash and he's probably best known for don't say a word, which was a Michael Douglas film eventually in true crime, which was a Clint Eastwood film.

01:18:05.100 He wrote those also empire of lies.

01:18:07.960 Um, and he also wrote a Michael Caine movie and a horror film.

01:18:12.940 Um, and now he is, uh, in the belly of the beast in Hollywood and he is just writing things, uh, that tell the truth about things like socialism.

01:18:24.320 Yesterday, he, on his program did a great job explaining how socialism is killing countries all around the world.

01:18:33.220 Welcome to the program, Andrew Klavan.

01:18:35.480 Thanks, Clint.

01:18:36.200 It's great to be here.

01:18:36.900 So, uh, are you, are you, are you, are you shocked at how quickly socialism has become totally cool?

01:18:46.960 You know, it is a little shocking, but the funny thing about socialism is it's kind of diabolical is it takes about 70 years to suck a country dry.

01:18:56.140 When you institute socialism, if you look at the communist revolution to the fall of the Berlin wall, just about a lifetime.

01:19:02.220 You look at, uh, the post World War II Europe that went very socialist to today when Europe is essentially, uh, being subsumed by, uh, migration and by a loss of inner faith in themselves, just about a lifetime.

01:19:16.260 So it's diabolical because of the people who start the socialism and the people who see the society fall are not the same people and they don't connect.

01:19:24.080 They think, oh, it can't be the national healthcare that's turned us into, from an empire into a backwater.

01:19:30.040 That can't be right because I've had national healthcare all my life, but that is in fact what it is.

01:19:34.860 It's the socialism that is both the symptom of the, of the, the disease.

01:19:38.540 Socialism comes in as a society has lost faith in itself.

01:19:41.780 And it's also the cause of that disease getting worse.

01:19:44.500 It sucks out.

01:19:45.600 Uh, well, it's, it does so many things, but the two most important things that socialism does is the first thing is it institutes the logic of slavery.

01:19:53.820 I'm a big believer that ideas expand to fulfill their own logic.

01:19:59.420 So you start out by saying all men are created equal, meaning all white men essentially, but that idea is going to expand to include everybody and women too, eventually, because ideas expand.

01:20:09.940 The basic idea of socialism is that your time that you put into your work that creates your money belongs to the state.

01:20:18.860 Your life belongs to the state.

01:20:20.700 It's exactly the same logic that a master says to his slave.

01:20:24.880 He says to his slave, you do the work, but I'll get the profits because I'm superior to you.

01:20:29.400 And that's what the state says to the people under socialism.

01:20:32.520 So it essentially turns you into slaves.

01:20:35.960 You wonder why in a single generation, Nicaragua becomes a slave state. 0.97

01:20:41.680 It goes from being a right-wing slave state to being a left-wing slave state.

01:20:45.260 Venezuela is destroyed in a blink of an eye.

01:20:48.460 And basically the, the juice of Europe, the thing that made Europe the, uh, the greatest civilization on earth, the Europe of Shakespeare, the Europe of Mozart, the Europe of John Locke, that Europe is gone.

01:20:59.940 You know, that Europe is just gone.

01:21:01.520 And socialism has a lot to do with it.

01:21:04.560 And the other thing, and to me, you know, sometimes people go a little nuts when I say this because they don't quite understand what I mean.

01:21:11.720 But socialism is a materialist philosophy.

01:21:14.380 In order to turn people into slaves, you've got to take their God away. 0.97

01:21:17.700 You can't say to them, you know, God made you in his image.

01:21:21.620 You are unique.

01:21:22.460 You are cherished.

01:21:23.180 You're loved.

01:21:24.040 You have dignity because you're taking his rights away.

01:21:27.480 What you're saying to him is everything you need is contained in a dollar bill and a, a lunch bag.

01:21:33.200 You know, I give you a dollar bill and a lunch bag.

01:21:35.160 You're happy.

01:21:36.080 You don't need meaning.

01:21:37.180 You don't need, uh, you know, dignity.

01:21:39.320 You just need your dollar.

01:21:41.260 I give you enough money in a lunch bag and you let me make the decisions.

01:21:44.300 Once you take God out of a civilization, you've taken, you've literally taken the meaning out of a civilization.

01:21:51.080 You've basically said that the only thing you are are physical beings.

01:21:54.600 You live, you have pleasure, you have pain, and you die.

01:21:58.520 And when you say that to people, the reason for all the stuff that we do, all the great stuff that we do, all the stuff that makes us a vibrant, creative civilization like America, it's gone.

01:22:08.820 It's gone.

01:22:09.560 There's no reason to sit in your garage and starve for 14 years to invent some kind of new battery that'll store wind power.

01:22:16.280 You know, you don't have to do that because it's, there's no meaning to it.

01:22:20.460 And, and you watch socialist countries and this happens to every single one of them.

01:22:25.440 I always hear people when they tout socialism, they, they look at countries that aren't really socialist, but have very high taxes and a lot of social spending like Norway.

01:22:34.060 And they say, ah, the, you know, the polls show everybody's happy in Norway and you think, yeah, but everything they use was invented in a capitalist country.

01:22:43.320 Are they using cell phones?

01:22:44.320 Are they using cars?

01:22:45.460 Are they, do they have an army that can protect them or do they depend on our army to keep invaders away?

01:22:51.520 They're living in our garage.

01:22:53.040 So they're happy in the same way that children are happy because they don't have to take care of anything.

01:22:57.620 They don't have to make anything.

01:22:58.860 It's a lot harder to be dad than it is to be, you know, the four-year-old kid.

01:23:03.980 And I just think when we stop and just look at that internal logic of socialism and you see a pretty girl like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, you know, talking about it, you think like, wow, this sounds pretty good.

01:23:18.240 But if you could live 140 years instead of 70 years and see what it does to a nation, you would understand that this is the wedge of a very, very dangerous and destructive philosophy.

01:23:27.720 How concerned were you when you heard Cortez say, you know, capitalism isn't going to be around forever?

01:23:33.340 And all of these things that you say happened because of the free market and because of the Constitution and the Enlightenment, that's just natural, man's natural evolution.

01:23:47.740 They would have come up with this anyway.

01:23:49.880 That's a wonderful, I mean, the kind of saving grace of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is that she's a dolt. 1.00

01:23:55.860 But she's really, but she's not.

01:23:59.040 She has two degrees.

01:24:00.440 She has an economics degree and foreign affairs degree.

01:24:04.760 Glenn, you're making me lose my faith in higher education.

01:24:07.820 I didn't know you had any.

01:24:11.100 Because the woman says we have low unemployment because everyone has two jobs. 0.61

01:24:14.720 And I'm counting on my finger and I think, well, if we had one job, we'd still have the same unemployment numbers.

01:24:20.400 But it's a very strange way of thinking.

01:24:25.020 But, yeah, I mean, that is what you have to tell yourself.

01:24:27.460 Capitalism has reduced poverty around the world.

01:24:30.840 You know, this world we live in, this world of wonders and wealth where, you know, people, where people are living, even the poor are living in ways that the pharaohs couldn't have dreamed of.

01:24:41.720 You know, if the pharaoh who built the pyramids walked into a convenience store in our world, he'd be shocked.

01:24:50.720 This world didn't drop out of the sky.

01:24:52.640 This world was built by capitalism.

01:24:55.040 And on what evidence you are saying that that is an idea, sure, it's an idea that transformed the world for the better, but now we've evolved out of it.

01:25:05.660 My question, I guess, is what's your evidence?

01:25:07.500 How do you know that the future is some perfect socialist world where we get to spend what capitalism created?

01:25:15.380 I mean, where's the logic in that?

01:25:16.860 If you spend what capitalism created, what's going to create more wealth?

01:25:21.860 Andrew, the president is debuting a farm bill, which we are only having to spend $12 billion on because of the trade bill.

01:25:33.680 And we've put trade barriers up, which is anti-free market.

01:25:38.820 And those trade barriers, people are retaliating.

01:25:41.740 And now our farmers are really, really hurting.

01:25:44.240 We have, I don't even remember how many tons, what is it, 12 million tons of meat sitting in freezers that is going unsold.

01:25:51.760 And our farmers don't know what to do.

01:25:53.600 And I think a lot of them are sitting here going, well, OK, well, I need the farm bill and I'm hoping that this is just a negotiation tactic and it's going to pay off soon.

01:26:04.380 But it's certainly not paying off now.

01:26:06.260 In fact, it is now Republican socialism.

01:26:09.160 Is it not?

01:26:10.480 You know, I really worry about Trump on this.

01:26:13.280 I tend to I tend to hold fire with Trump because I know a negotiation is a moving thing.

01:26:19.320 They're always attacking where Trump is standing at this moment when I know he is thinking down the line of where he's trying to get.

01:26:25.520 But in this case, I don't get it because if he is spending this money on the farmers, he said this himself, to buy himself some time so he can punish China for their undoubtedly bad practices. 0.63

01:26:37.340 Right.

01:26:38.060 So he's punishing China with tariffs, tariff that China is responding with tariffs that are hurting the farmers.

01:26:43.080 So he's paying off the farmers.

01:26:45.440 But China knows he's just buying time.

01:26:47.580 Right.

01:26:47.900 So China. 0.66

01:26:48.640 Why doesn't China just wait him out? 1.00

01:26:51.320 Why doesn't he think China won't just wait him out and get to the point where the tariffs are destroying us, but not doing all that much to China?

01:26:59.160 I don't understand what he's thinking here.

01:27:01.880 You know, there are a lot of people who think Trump is playing three dimensional chess all the time.

01:27:06.060 And listen, sometimes he's had some great outcomes.

01:27:08.720 So sometimes I think, well, maybe maybe they're right.

01:27:11.040 I mean, I don't get it with this.

01:27:13.240 And I especially I know that this is the kind of thing that probably only bothers you and me in America is tariffs are supposed to be done by Congress.

01:27:20.720 You know, that's actually in the Constitution.

01:27:23.140 And they keep handing this stuff off to the president.

01:27:25.820 And I wonder, well, why?

01:27:27.280 Why do that?

01:27:28.060 Why isn't Congress in charge of this?

01:27:29.860 Like it says in the Constitution, they don't want they don't want to be holding the bag.

01:27:33.600 They don't want to be holding the bag.

01:27:35.320 And so they don't do anything about immigration.

01:27:36.840 They don't do anything about tariffs.

01:27:38.340 And so then they accuse Trump of being an authoritarian.

01:27:42.320 And to Trump's credit, he keeps saying, no, pass a law, please, you know, legislate.

01:27:46.320 You're the legislators.

01:27:47.980 So, you know, this thing, this has been Trump's philosophy on trade forever.

01:27:52.460 This is not a new thing.

01:27:53.620 He's not just making it up.

01:27:55.180 We're going to have to play it out because nobody's going to stop it.

01:27:57.780 And, you know, I've got my fingers crossed that he's got an idea, you know, that's that's the best I can come up with at this moment, because I don't see the logic of it.

01:28:07.520 If this is just a delaying tactic, why won't the Chinese just wait us out in the same way when Obama announced that he was going to pull out of Afghanistan? 0.94

01:28:16.680 Why doesn't the Taliban just wait us out? 0.99

01:28:18.620 So I can have a trade war if we're going to surrender.

01:28:20.320 I only have about a minute here, Andrew, but I'd love to get an opinion on you, if you could, in a minute.

01:28:25.840 The my fear is the economy goes to hell in a handbag and we are going to be looking for socialists.

01:28:35.560 If the economy stays good, we're going to be fine.

01:28:38.580 But we will look for a handout from a socialist and they'll be glad to give it to us.

01:28:44.080 Do we do we weather a storm like a very bad 2008 or Great Depression somewhere in between?

01:28:53.920 It's a very open question.

01:28:55.640 I think your worries are really well based.

01:28:57.560 You know, I'm always pretty optimistic.

01:28:59.200 I'm hoping that Trump will pull out if he sees the economy going south.

01:29:02.980 But that is how exactly how communism spread.

01:29:05.920 When you look at China, the corrupt government that the idealistic communists came in and replaced was less honest than the communists.

01:29:13.260 And the same thing was true of the czars. 0.61

01:29:15.440 That's how it gets in.

01:29:16.480 It gets in when when capitalism fails because of mismanagement by politicians.

01:29:22.320 So your worries are completely well founded.

01:29:25.080 I just hope Trump Trump is not a dumb guy.

01:29:27.280 And I hope he pulls out if he sees that happening.

01:29:29.760 Andrew Klavan, always good to talk to you, sir.

01:29:31.040 Thank you so much.

01:29:32.160 And my my best to your family.

01:29:34.680 I will tell you, Andrew Klavan is a remarkable guy.

01:29:37.840 He is a guy who when I saw him, I don't know, about a year ago.

01:29:41.500 So we haven't seen each other in years.

01:29:43.400 And he said, Glenn, I have to tell you something.

01:29:45.460 About 10 years ago, I said something to somebody and he said I was wrong.

01:29:50.140 And I said it about you.

01:29:51.780 And it was just a joke.

01:29:53.080 But it just it never felt right.

01:29:55.060 And I needed to apologize.

01:29:56.060 And I said, I didn't even hear the joke, did I?

01:29:59.940 He said, no.

01:30:01.140 And I said, it was a joke.

01:30:02.700 He said, yeah.

01:30:03.140 And I said, relax, Andrew.

01:30:04.340 This guy is such an honest and decent man.

01:30:09.140 Honored to be able to call him one of the circle of my friends.

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01:32:28.980 I was a little disappointed.

01:32:30.540 I thought we were going to have the the girl on yesterday from you did.

01:32:37.540 You remember the interview you did it yesterday on the show from the story from refinery twenty nine,

01:32:43.020 which was this millennial in New York that was having to struggle on a, you know, twenty four hour twenty five dollars an hour job.

01:32:51.980 And, you know, she she had to limit her trips to the Hamptons and her avocado toast. 0.99

01:32:58.300 It was quite amazing.

01:32:59.260 And then we get on TV.

01:33:00.640 I'm told all day that we have her and she's bore a striking resemblance to you, Stu.

01:33:06.320 Well, I mean, I found her to be quite attractive, so I'll take that as a compliment.

01:33:11.900 Really?

01:33:12.500 Yeah, she she I don't know why she seemed a little ditzy. 1.00

01:33:16.400 I think she got her.

01:33:17.660 I missed this part because I was looking away and then I look up and it looks like she was.

01:33:22.200 Why were you looking away?

01:33:23.320 Well, but it looked like she accidentally got her gum in her hair.

01:33:28.260 There was some gum in the hair by mistake there by this particular guest.

01:33:31.780 And we never marked it as satire, so everyone should assume it was one hundred percent accurate.

01:33:37.500 Wow.

01:33:38.280 Wow.

01:33:38.860 OK, that would be misfortunate if that happened.

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01:33:46.320 Welcome to the program.

01:33:54.020 I'm so very glad that you have joined us.

01:33:57.300 There's a there's kind of an internal debate here and.

01:34:01.200 And it's about the Trump tapes and Stu makes a really good case.

01:34:10.080 And I want you to hear it here in a second.

01:34:12.200 But Pat and I are both saying it doesn't matter.

01:34:14.860 This doesn't matter.

01:34:15.760 First of all, I didn't think.

01:34:17.320 Did you did you think that he said pay cash or don't pay in cash?

01:34:22.500 I couldn't really tell.

01:34:24.080 But I'm not really sure why that's such an incredible focus.

01:34:30.080 Yeah, I think.

01:34:31.520 Well, I think it's because he said because Rudy Giuliani said he didn't say pay in cash.

01:34:37.420 Right.

01:34:37.700 But what if he did or he didn't try to hide it?

01:34:40.580 Either way, he was already trying to hide it either way.

01:34:43.280 Yeah.

01:34:43.400 He said he didn't know anything about this in advance publicly and he did know about it in advance.

01:34:48.380 That's so he was obviously trying to hide it was he's trying to hide it from regulators,

01:34:52.820 I guess would be the accusation, because we know the payment happened from the media source to her that we know.

01:34:58.620 So we just don't know whether there was a payment from Trump to the media source as well.

01:35:03.380 But I mean, we know the payment actually occurred.

01:35:05.700 Now it looks like it obviously did.

01:35:08.080 And it doesn't look like there was a slush fund.

01:35:10.200 Remember, our our initial idea was that there was some sort of a slush fund.

01:35:14.080 And he did open a company with that purpose.

01:35:17.340 We know that he then closed it with no payment made.

01:35:20.140 So the belief is that the payment was actually never made.

01:35:23.880 Oh, so they never paid Karen McDougal.

01:35:26.060 No, they did pay McDougal for that payment came from.

01:35:29.920 They never paid the National Enquirer.

01:35:31.460 Oh, right.

01:35:31.780 The question is, did they pay the National Enquirer?

01:35:33.380 We know they thought they were planning to do it.

01:35:36.300 We know they set up the company to do it.

01:35:37.780 But the company apparently never paid the money on record through that company to to the National Enquirer.

01:35:45.540 Now, is it possible that they decided later, you know what, let's do cash?

01:35:49.080 It's possible.

01:35:50.200 Or did they or did they decide, you know what?

01:35:52.440 It doesn't matter.

01:35:52.920 It doesn't matter.

01:35:53.620 And maybe maybe David Pecker was like, you know, guys, you don't need to give me one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

01:35:57.280 I'll just pay it.

01:35:58.300 You know, I mean, he's a friend.

01:35:59.500 He that's not an incredible amount of money for David Pecker to just suck it up and spend.

01:36:05.420 Yeah, I there's, you know, again, this is Russian collusion.

01:36:09.200 But even if it was illegal to pay the cash or whatever, does it matter?

01:36:14.600 Because they didn't that we know of.

01:36:16.460 There's nothing here.

01:36:17.640 There's nothing here.

01:36:18.860 And nobody's going to care.

01:36:20.420 No Trump supporters going to care about this.

01:36:21.960 They already don't.

01:36:22.740 No, you know, I don't care.

01:36:24.040 And I think it's because a we've already baked it in.

01:36:27.480 We've already baked it in.

01:36:28.580 Yeah.

01:36:28.920 Pat, how surprised are you that he slept with a Playboy model after he was married to a to another similar model?

01:36:35.880 Well, look, I I wasn't electing a pastor in chief.

01:36:39.580 So, yeah, right.

01:36:41.040 It didn't.

01:36:41.380 I didn't care.

01:36:42.180 Right.

01:36:42.360 I didn't care.

01:36:43.240 No, no.

01:36:43.520 Hang on.

01:36:43.900 But be sincere.

01:36:45.680 This is one of the things.

01:36:46.820 Yeah, I already knew he we already knew before the election that he did.

01:36:51.280 Right.

01:36:51.680 We said before the election, this listen to him on Howard Stern.

01:36:55.160 That's who he is.

01:36:56.340 Yeah, that's who he is.

01:36:57.600 Yeah.

01:36:57.800 And so nobody is surprised by this.

01:37:00.600 When you look at when you look at Cohen, did anybody think he was a clean attorney?

01:37:06.260 No, no.

01:37:07.700 I thought he was a mob.

01:37:08.740 Well, we heard him ranting and raving.

01:37:10.460 Yeah.

01:37:10.860 Against who was that that he was threatening?

01:37:13.660 Some media source.

01:37:14.780 Daily Beast.

01:37:15.120 Daily Beast reporter.

01:37:16.100 Yeah.

01:37:16.340 So, you know, when you know who he is, you're like, OK, whoa, whoa.

01:37:20.780 He was going to set up a dummy corporation to pay the National Enquirer.

01:37:25.020 Nobody cares.

01:37:25.820 And it's not like you're paying off Fox.

01:37:28.160 You're paying off the National Enquirer.

01:37:30.860 Now, all of that, all of that, Stu's point has been all day.

01:37:36.660 If we found out that Barack Obama had paid off.

01:37:43.380 No, let's let's use it because Barack Obama is not believable.

01:37:46.140 Bill Clinton is the Democratic version of Donald Trump in when it comes to his love life.

01:37:52.320 OK, sure.

01:37:53.100 Right.

01:37:53.620 So would anybody have been surprised that Bill Clinton was making it with a supermodel or a Playboy model or or a porn star?

01:38:02.240 No, I wouldn't be, you know, be an upgrade.

01:38:04.640 Anyway, so so Bill Clinton, if if he would have if this story would have come out.

01:38:15.800 Bill Clinton pays National Enquirer to silence Playboy model who says she had an illicit affair with him.

01:38:26.200 Would we care?

01:38:27.800 Yeah, we would have.

01:38:28.680 Of course, of course, we would have.

01:38:30.680 Of course, we would have.

01:38:31.660 And we did care about all of his scandals.

01:38:33.560 Yeah, you and the three of us cared about the Trump scandals, too.

01:38:37.220 And that's why none of us voted for him.

01:38:39.540 We did care.

01:38:40.680 I do care.

01:38:42.260 But but the people who really support him strongly, I don't think they do now.

01:38:48.200 And that's because that's the problem.

01:38:50.660 My I think my appeal here, I think, is because I think, you know, it's true.

01:38:54.300 I always say this to people on the left when they're like, they'll say they'll be a column and be like, oh, you know, we need to do something about all these white people. 0.76

01:39:01.800 And they are so geared to be reflexively calling everything racism.

01:39:08.500 You have to ask them, OK, just change the letter or the word from white to black.

01:39:14.220 And then you can say, would you feel that that was racist?

01:39:16.700 And if you sort of say, well, look at the problem here is all these black people. 1.00

01:39:20.360 Clearly, it would be racist.

01:39:21.600 But they feel like they could say the problem is all the white people and it's not racist.

01:39:25.220 Well, that's an easy test.

01:39:26.120 And for us, the same thing is you should we should change it to whether it's Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton or whoever it is.

01:39:32.580 Clearly, we would be upset about this.

01:39:34.460 And I appealed not not to look back at Donald Trump because you can do that easily.

01:39:38.580 And you might say, well, I like Donald Trump.

01:39:40.820 They're doing a lot of good things.

01:39:42.420 Just think of this going forward.

01:39:43.820 Do we want this precedent going forward?

01:39:46.040 Forget Donald Trump.

01:39:47.160 Forget Bill Clinton.

01:39:47.960 Forget Barack Obama.

01:39:48.760 Do we want this this this precedent to be acceptable because we don't have the media sources?

01:39:55.140 They've got all the good ones.

01:39:56.580 They they can do this a lot better than we can do this.

01:40:00.460 Paying off media sources to do favors for them is not a precedent that I necessarily want to continue.

01:40:06.860 They already get favorable treatment.

01:40:08.840 But, you know, I mean, you know, National Enquirer, what do you want to say?

01:40:11.520 Us Weekly.

01:40:12.460 If there was a scandal with the next presidential candidate, who's a guy, Eric Holder runs for president.

01:40:18.060 Let's use Gary Hart.

01:40:19.480 Gary Hart.

01:40:20.080 It was the National Enquirer, wasn't it?

01:40:21.860 That did Gary Hart.

01:40:23.140 It was the National Enquirer that got Gary Hart.

01:40:25.500 But that changed the history.

01:40:27.900 John Edwards, too.

01:40:28.720 Like if Edwards had paid several hundred thousand dollars to the National Enquirer.

01:40:33.220 So and so they not only didn't run the story, but they actually went out to get the story so they could hide it.

01:40:40.740 Like actually overtly went out to get the story, pay the person and then hide it intentionally.

01:40:46.820 We would have been really upset and rightfully so.

01:40:50.740 It's OK to be upset about these things and still say that, you know what?

01:40:53.680 I like, you know, Neil Gorsuch.

01:40:56.020 It's still OK.

01:40:56.920 So now here's here is the one difference because I agree with you.

01:41:00.580 But there's there's two things that come to mind.

01:41:04.160 One, John Edwards was, you know, talking about himself like he was just a good guy and a great saint and everything.

01:41:12.020 Nobody believes that about people believe that about John Edwards.

01:41:15.920 People thought he was a good guy, a good look at him with his wife and he's wonderful and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:41:21.300 No, he wasn't.

01:41:22.560 No, he wasn't.

01:41:23.060 He's a bad guy.

01:41:23.800 I mean, Donald Trump, nobody looks at him like he's faithful to Melania.

01:41:29.820 I mean, I feel it's true.

01:41:31.440 I mean, I think a lot of his supporters do look at him that way.

01:41:34.360 And at least they say they are.

01:41:36.840 They are.

01:41:37.500 They are intentionally blind.

01:41:40.220 And they have intentionally blinded themselves.

01:41:43.560 I don't think there's anybody who thinks that.

01:41:45.520 I mean, look, anybody who writes about his marriage while I was walking down the aisle, I looked at Melania and thought, I'm already bored with this.

01:41:58.440 What am I doing?

01:41:59.860 That's it.

01:42:00.380 And you and he said, oh, man, that was in his prenup thing, wasn't it?

01:42:03.800 Remember, we played the audio of that.

01:42:05.340 Yeah, his pre he was like, you have to have a prenup because I know my my my marriage to Melania will eventually end. 0.56

01:42:12.580 Yes. So, I mean, it's just who he is.

01:42:16.020 It's just who he is.

01:42:16.840 It's not a surprise.

01:42:17.500 Now.

01:42:19.020 The media part of that is a little bit.

01:42:20.720 I mean, look, again, he the things his private life with who he's sleeping with is something for him and Melania to sort out.

01:42:29.220 Right.

01:42:29.540 The fact that he's telling us that he didn't do it is of mild interest.

01:42:34.300 Like he should he shouldn't be lying to us about these things, just like any president should be lying.

01:42:38.820 But the idea that a president or a presidential candidate a few weeks before the election have it has a potentially damaging story that he takes money and gives to a media organization so that they capture the story and make sure the voters don't know about it.

01:42:53.120 I don't see how you don't think that that's at least I do a real problem.

01:42:57.420 I do.

01:42:57.820 I found a guy or not.

01:42:59.000 I found it a problem with the L.A.

01:43:00.860 Times hit it about Obama.

01:43:02.580 Yeah.

01:43:02.820 And when the when when the the photographer hit the hit the picture of of Louis Farrakhan and Obama together.

01:43:12.220 And that was all done without payment.

01:43:14.500 Yeah.

01:43:14.840 And that's why this isn't about Donald Trump.

01:43:17.000 No, no, it's not.

01:43:17.660 It's about the American people.

01:43:18.920 And what we've come to accept now.

01:43:21.300 Yeah.

01:43:21.860 And the press and the American people.

01:43:24.280 I mean, it's more about the right than it is anything else.

01:43:26.860 Anybody who has changed anybody who comes to me and says, hey, I will buy that from you.

01:43:33.300 No.

01:43:34.920 No, you're not buying that from me, friend or foe.

01:43:38.220 I either find it worth running or not.

01:43:43.320 It's either I find it to be true and worthy of running or not.

01:43:48.860 Of course.

01:43:49.640 Of course.

01:43:50.140 I mean, you're I mean, the National Enquirer is a terrible media organization, but you're a terrible media organization.

01:43:55.320 If you're not making decisions based on that.

01:43:57.440 Right.

01:43:57.640 And maybe that's why maybe they we don't know, but maybe that's why there's no record of the payment.

01:44:02.000 Maybe they were like, I mean, we may be the National Enquirer, but I mean, we're not whores. 0.80

01:44:07.820 It's possible.

01:44:09.020 I mean, Pat, wait, wait, wait.

01:44:10.640 There's there's one more thing on this.

01:44:11.980 Yeah.

01:44:12.840 And this is the real question.

01:44:14.400 Pat, the three of us.

01:44:19.500 We all feel the same way about Donald Trump.

01:44:21.960 We've always felt about Donald Trump as a person, his policies.

01:44:26.420 I like some of them.

01:44:27.180 I don't like some of them.

01:44:28.380 They're better than I expected.

01:44:29.720 A lot better than I expected.

01:44:31.140 And not like not like by a little bit.

01:44:33.780 I mean, yards and yards and yards better.

01:44:37.800 OK, so but we still feel the same way.

01:44:41.500 I still think he's bad for civilization as we know it.

01:44:45.780 You know, I mean, as far as like civil politics, not civil, not civilization necessarily like for the civil part of civilization.

01:44:53.280 Yes.

01:44:53.820 Our society.

01:44:55.340 OK.

01:44:55.780 Sure.

01:44:56.020 Being civil to one another.

01:44:57.560 OK.

01:44:58.120 But that's not all him.

01:44:59.520 That's us and everybody else.

01:45:01.120 We're all in on that.

01:45:01.940 Lots of people.

01:45:02.600 OK.

01:45:02.900 Yeah.

01:45:03.080 But the one thing that is crossed my mind over and over and over again is.

01:45:11.680 Live in the world as it is.

01:45:14.320 Deal with the world as it is, not the world as you wish it to be.

01:45:20.540 It's be in the world, not of the world.

01:45:25.060 So I can sit here and go, OK, well, I don't agree with this.

01:45:30.000 I don't like his behavior.

01:45:31.180 I think he's bad for society and I say those things.

01:45:35.360 However.

01:45:37.060 That's me.

01:45:38.460 That's not the world I live in.

01:45:40.520 The world I'm living in doesn't want to hear any of that.

01:45:43.760 Well, OK, well, I'll attempt to say that from time to time to remind people this isn't good, but neither is the other option that we have on the other side.

01:45:53.000 That is postmodernism that's tearing us apart as well.

01:45:56.620 And this guy has done some good things.

01:46:01.760 That's me living in the world as it is without, I think, compromise.

01:46:09.060 Is that accurate?

01:46:10.520 I think so.

01:46:11.520 I think so.

01:46:12.120 And it's what we said at the beginning when he was elected.

01:46:14.140 We're going to give him a chance.

01:46:15.220 He's the president.

01:46:15.840 We're going to call balls and strikes as we see him.

01:46:17.640 Yeah.

01:46:18.060 And I'm not going to call a strike a ball and a ball a strike.

01:46:22.540 I'm not going to do it.

01:46:23.560 If I see it on the outside corner and it's over the plate, I'm going to call it a strike.

01:46:28.780 And I think we've been pretty consistent in doing that.

01:46:32.780 Haven't we?

01:46:33.700 I've tried.

01:46:34.920 We've tried.

01:46:35.340 I don't know any other way to do it because I, you know.

01:46:37.720 I don't either.

01:46:38.120 But I just don't, you know, we can't, this world currently makes us feel like you're

01:46:46.760 a sellout one way or the other.

01:46:49.240 You're a trader one way or the other, no matter what you say.

01:46:53.100 No, I'm just dealing with the world as it is and trying to hold on to my own personal

01:47:00.760 belief.

01:47:01.780 But the rest of the world isn't going along with my personal belief.

01:47:07.100 That's okay.

01:47:07.620 That's okay.

01:47:08.320 I'll continue to live what I live and believe what I believe, but I will deal with the analysis

01:47:14.840 of the world as it is.

01:47:17.500 That's one thing the media just cannot do.

01:47:21.520 No.

01:47:24.520 All right.

01:47:25.100 Let me tell you about the SimpliSafe.

01:47:26.760 Yes, Stu.

01:47:27.400 I was going to say Pat Gray appears on the News and Why It Matters.

01:47:31.200 And you may know that, of course, from its very high podcast position on the iTunes charts.

01:47:37.740 The number 12 podcast in news and politics in America.

01:47:41.720 Let's make it number one by the end of the week.

01:47:43.160 That would be fantastic.

01:47:44.460 And also on Pat Gray Unleashed as well.

01:47:46.040 Yes.

01:47:46.620 Both available on iTunes.

01:47:48.160 And please subscribe and rate it.

01:47:51.700 Give it a five-star rating and it helps them move up so they can be exposed to a bigger audience.

01:47:56.560 It's only day three on the News and Why It Matters on podcasts.

01:47:59.620 So, all right.

01:48:00.560 SimpliSafe.

01:48:01.640 SimpliSafe is going to give you the best bang for your buck.

01:48:05.020 And it is high quality every step of the way.

01:48:08.860 Their alarm system is different in the first place because they didn't set out to make money.

01:48:15.540 They set out to make something for friends.

01:48:18.740 They started to make something that would protect their friends who couldn't sign on to an alarm company because they were all in college and all of their houses were being robbed.

01:48:29.080 And so, this guy, who's an amazing inventor, decided, you know what?

01:48:32.940 I'm just going to make this for you guys and you just pay for the parts.

01:48:37.840 Well, they did.

01:48:38.600 And then it became popular there by Harvard.

01:48:41.540 And he started selling.

01:48:42.700 He's like, I think this is a business.

01:48:43.980 And it became SimpliSafe.

01:48:45.900 Now, it is still top of the line.

01:48:49.140 But there's no strings and there are no wires.

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01:49:18.540 Glenn Beck.

01:49:24.020 Wildfires in California.

01:49:25.060 They're forcing Yosemite to close.

01:49:27.920 Are sequoias at Yosemite?

01:49:29.720 Do you know?

01:49:30.940 They are?

01:49:31.580 It looks like it.

01:49:32.020 Yeah.

01:49:32.140 I don't know if they are.

01:49:34.260 Look up if they're fire retardant. 1.00

01:49:36.420 These giant sequoias out by San Francisco.

01:49:39.360 These trees are amazing.

01:49:40.700 They're some of the oldest living things on Earth.

01:49:43.580 And they're gigantic.

01:49:44.980 And the reason why they're so old is because their sap is actually fire resistant.

01:49:51.620 And so you don't burn the giant sequoias, which is an amazing feature for, you know, obviously for a forest.

01:50:02.920 Are the redwoods this way?

01:50:04.440 I've never seen the redwoods.

01:50:05.740 Are they fire resistant too?

01:50:07.040 Oh, good.

01:50:08.120 Thank God.

01:50:08.720 And we pray for the people in California.

01:50:11.560 We pray for the land of California, that these wildfires can get under control.

01:50:20.760 And we kind of also pray that maybe some of the leaders in California get under control and start to see the light before the whole place burns down metaphorically and literally.

01:50:34.020 Glenn Beck.

01:50:35.980 Mercury.

01:50:38.720 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 25, 2018

'Uptight and Humorless'？ - 7⧸25⧸18

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